TEST. . >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ROLL CALL PLEASE. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE. >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE. >>NAYA YOUNG: HERE. >>LUIS VIERA: HERE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HERE. >>CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON WILL BE BACK. HE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE BACK. >>LYNN HURTAK: I REQUEST TO RESCHEDULE ITEM 32 AT MARCH 6, 2026 FOR A PUBLIC HEARING. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SO WE HAVE A MOTION TO RESCHEDULE ITEM 32 TO MARCH 6, AND A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. OPPOSED. THE AYES HAVE IT. THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. >>LYNN HURTAK: A MOTION TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. APPEAR SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. OPPOSED. AYES HAVE IT. SKATING RIGHT ALONG TO ITEM NUMBER 31. OH, WE HAVE TO BE SWORN IN FIRST. SO WE ARE GOING TO SWEAR EVERYBODY IN FIRST. ANYBODY HERE TO SPEAK TO ITEM 31, PLEASE STAND, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND, AND BE SWORN IN BY OUR CLERK. >>LYNN HURTAK: ANYBODY THAT IS GOING TO TALK. [SWEARING IN] >> I DO. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I HAVE A CARD FROM FRANK LOGAN. IS HE HERE? FRANK LOGAN. I WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU ARE HERE BECAUSE I HAD YOUR CARD. I HELD ON TO IT JUST KNOWING THAT YOU ARE HERE. THANK YOU YES, MA'AM, YOU ARE ON. >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: GOOD AFTERNOON, CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE FROM THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT. I'M HERE FOR ITEM NUMBER 31, WHICH IS A REVIEW HEARING FOR THE FILE NO. SU1-25-77-C FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 2920 -- SORRY, 2924 EAST DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING, JR. BOULEVARD. THE PETITIONER FOR THIS MATTER IS DANIEL ANDERI. AND 'APPLIED AN APPLICATION WITH THE ZONING DEPARTMENT FOR A DWELLING SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED UNIT. THAT DECISION WAS DENIED BY ZONING STAFF AND LAURA MARLEY WILL BE APPEARING TO EXPLAIN WHY THAT MATTER WAS -- WHY THAT APPLICATION WAS DENIED. I PROVIDED -- HOPEFULLY MR. SHELBY PASSED OUT THE PACKETS -- THANK YOU -- THAT INCLUDE THE RULES OF PROCEDURE FOR CITY COUNCIL TO USE IN ORDER TO CONDUCT THIS REVIEW HEARING. I ALSO PROVIDED A COPY OF CODE SECTION 27-61, WHICH GOVERNS THE PROCESS FOR THIS REVIEW HEARING. AND I HAVE ALSO PROVIDED A SAMPLE MOTION FOR CITY COUNCIL TO USE REGARDING THIS MATTER. AS OUTLINED IN CODE EXCEPTION 27-61, SUBSECTIONS J- 3. A DE-NOVA REVIEW HEARING WHICH MEANS CITY COUNCIL CAN ACCEPT NEW EVIDENCE AND TAKE TESTIMONY REGARDING THIS MATTER. AT THE CONCLUSION OF THIS HEARING, CITY COUNCIL CAN TAKE TWO ACTIONS AT THE CONCLUSION AFTER YOU HEAR FROM THE WITNESSES REGARDING THIS APPLICATION. CITY COUNCIL CAN AFFIRM THE DECISION OF THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR OR OVERTURN DECISION OF ZONING ADMINISTRATOR. I'M HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AT ANY TIME, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO TURN IT OVER TO MISS LAURA MARLEY, WHO WILL GIVE A BACKGROUND OF THE APPLICATION, ALONG WITH THE REASONS WHY THE APPLICATION FOR THE DWELLING SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED WAS DENIED. AND JUST FOR REFERENCE, IN THE STAFF'S REPORT, SHE INCLUDED CODE SECTIONS 27-132, THAT PROVIDES THE TWO REQUIREMENTS FOR THIS TYPE OF USE, AND SO PLEASE USE THAT IN THE STAFF REPORT AS THE TWO REQUIREMENTS. IT DOES MEET ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS, BUT WE ARE HERE BECAUSE IT DOES NOT MEET THE OTHER REQUIREMENT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MISS MARLEY, BEFORE WE GET TO YOU, MR. SHELBY. >>MARTIN SHELBY: DID YOU HAVE -- DID YOU WANT ME -- BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS I WANT TO ASK AT THIS TIME, COUNCIL, IF THERE HAS BEEN ANY EX-PARTE COMMUNICATIONS RELIED TO THIS ISSUE THAT YOU DISCLOSE THAT AT THE TIME AND WITH WHOM AND THE SUB AND SUBSTANCE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA. >>LUIS VIERA: I SUBMITTED ANY AND ALL REGARDING THIS. I DID WANT TO -- I SPO HE CAN WITH MR. SHELBY ABOUT THIS, OUR ATTORNEY, BECAUSE OF MY INVOLVEMENT WITH THIS EFFORT. A COUPLE OFLE OF THINGS. NUMBER ONE, IN THE BUDGET, WE HAD SECURED -- AND I WORK WITH THE PORTICO FOR SECURING FUNDS FOR A HOUSING PROGRAM THAT COULD POTENTIALLY BE CONNECTED TO THIS. NUMBER ONE, I WANTED TO DISCLOSE THAT. I TALKED TO THAT TO OUR ATTORNEY PLAINTIFF SHELBY AND IS IT NOT CONSTITUTE A CONFLICT THAT I COULD NOT VOTE FOR IT. IF SO, IT WOULD BE TRUE FOR ALL OF US. PASTOR DE LA ROSA WHO IS HERE CALLED ME A FEW TIMES REGARDING PROCEDURE ON THIS HEARING. AT THE TIME, I DIDN'T KNOW IT WOULD GO TO CITY COUNCIL. NEITHER DID HE. AND WE HAD DISCUSSIONS ON THE PROCEDURE ON IT. NOT ON THE SUBSTANCE OF IT. IN TERMS OF THE MERITS OF THE CASE OR ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE, JUST THE PROCEDURE. NUMBER TWO, ON A PERSONAL BASIS I VOLUNTEERED NUMEROUS TIMES WITH THE PORTICO AND CIVIC AND COMMUNITY EVENTS TO DISCLOSE THAT AND PUT THAT OUT THERE. I BELIEVE I CAN VOTE OUT OF STANDARDS AND OUT OF AABOUT UNDANCE OF -- >>MARTIN SHELBY: FIRST OF ALL, YOU DON'T HAVE ANY DIRECT FINANCIAL AFFILIATION OF THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT BEFORE YOU. >>LUIS VIERA: NO, SIR. >>MARTIN SHELBY: FOR A RELATIVE OR PRINCIPAL. >>LUIS VIERA: NO. >>MARTIN SHELBY: NUMBER TWO IS, CAN YOU BE FAIR AND IMPARTIAL AND BASE YOUR DECISION ON THE COMPETENT SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE IN THE RECORD? >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR, I BELIEVE I CAN. >>MARTIN SHELBY: MY PROFESSIONAL OPINION THAT UNDER FLORIDA STATUTES, UP AN OBLIGATION TO VOTE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN CARLSON. >>BILL CARLSON: I GUESS THE SAME THING. THE PARTCO. PORTICO IS OWNED BY A CHURCH I AM A MEMBER OF, HYDE PARK METHODIST. AND ALSO I -- I PUT ON EVENTS AT THE PARTCO OCCASIONALLY INCLUDING A WEEKLY EVENT THAT IS TECHNICALLY BOOKED THROUGH A NONPROFIT, CAFE CON TAMPA. I DON'T HAVE ANY BUSINESS RELATIONSHIP WITH THEM. I GIVE MONEY TO THEM, BUT I AM NOT PERSONALLY INVOLVED. I ALSO HAVE GIVEN SPEECHES THERE ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND HOMELESS ISSUES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. BUT I DON'T HAVE ANY -- I GIVE THEM MONEY, I DON'T GET MONEY FROM THEM. >>MARTIN SHELBY: WITH REGARD TO THE ISSUE BEFORE YOU TODAY, YOU DON'T HAVE A FINANCIAL INTEREST FOR DOES A RELATIVE OR YOUR COMPANY RELATING TO THIS MATTER? >>BILL CARLSON: NO. >>MARTIN SHELBY: CAN YOU, BASED ON THE COMPETENT AND SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE IN THE RECORD BE FAIR AND IMPARTIAL AND BASE YOUR DECISION ON THAT? >>BILL CARLSON: YES. >>MARTIN SHELBY: AGAIN MY OPINION, MY PROFESSIONAL OPINION, YOU HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO VOTE. NO CONFLICT OF INTEREST THAT WARRANTS YOU ABSTAINING. >>BILL CARLSON: I SHOULD ALSO SAY THAT IDEA DIDN'T COULD AM FROMLY AND PROBABLY DIDN'T COME -- I DON'T KNOW WHERE IT CAME COME, BUT I HAD NOING TO DO WITH THE PROPOSAL. >>MARTIN SHELBY: ANY OTHER EX-PARTE COMMUNICATION AS SOON AS SEEING NONE, THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HEARING NOTHING ELSE, STAFF PRESENTATION. MISS MARLEY. YOU ARE ON MUTE. >>LAURA MARLEY: CAN I SHARE MY SCREEN, PLEASE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: OKAY, THERE YOU GO. WAITING FOR THE SCREEN. THERE WE GO. WE SEE THE SCREEN -- CAN WE GET IT ON THE COUNCIL MONITORS AS WELL. AND FLIP SCREENS BETWEEN MISS MARLEY AND THE PRESENTATION ON THE COUNCIL MONITORS, PLEASE. THERE WE GO. PROCEED. >>LAURA MARLEY: THANK YOU, SU1-25-0000077, THE PETITIONER IS DANIEL ANDERI AND COMPANY IS PORTICO HOUSING SOLUTIONS INC. 2924 EAST DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING, JR. BOULEVARD. THE ZONING IS COMMERCIAL GENERAL. THE SPECIAL USE REQUEST IS FOR DWELLING SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED. HERE IS THE AERIAL OF THE PROPERTY. AS YOU CAN SEE, THE PROPERTY IS OUTLINED IN RED. IT IS RIGHT NEXT TO THE RAILROAD TRA TRACKS. THIS IS A VIEW OF THE PROPERTY FROM EAST DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING, JR. BOULEVARD. YOU CAN TELL RIGHT NOW IT IS VACANT. HERE IS A PICTURE OF THE SITE PLAN. IT IS A SMALL SITE, BUT THEY HAVE A DESIGN EXCEPTION THROUGH URBAN DESIGN FOR THE EAST TAMPA OVERLAY. THEY REDUCE THEIR FRONT SETBACKS, SIDE SETBACKS, AND REDUCE THE PARKING TO ONE SPACE. THAT APPLICATION WITH AS APPROVED BY THE URBAN DESIGN MANAGER AT THE TIME. AND THESE ARE THE CODE REQUIREMENTS. THE REQUEST FOR A DWELLING SINGLE-FAMILY IS THE PROPOSED USE MUST BE LOCATED TO RESIDENTIAL USES ON AT LEAST TWO BOUNDARIES. THERE IS ONE RESIDENTIAL TO THE EAST OF THIS PROPERTY. ALL THE OTHERS ARE COMMERCIAL. THE SINGLE-FAMILY THAT IS AN EXISTING DWELLING MAY BE EXPANDED. IT DOESN'T MEET THESE BECAUSE IT IS A VACANT SITE. SINGLE-FAMILY WILL MEET THE SETBACKS FOR THE EAST TAMPA OVERLAY DISTRICT. AND ANY QUESTIONS, I AM AVAILABLE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: DOES COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? JUST TO CONFIRM, ONE SIDE IS THE RAILROAD TRACKS, CORRECT? >>LAURA MARLEY: CORRECT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU. DOES THAT CONCLUDE STAFF'S PRESENTATION? >>LAURA MARLEY: YES, SIR. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: VERY GOOD. APPLICANT, PETITIONER. START WITH YOUR NAME, PLEASE. >> DANIEL ANDERI, 130 WEST CYPRESS, TAMPA, FLORIDA. >>LUIS VIERA: SORRY, IF I MAY, MR. SHELBY, I FORGOT, WE SPOKE ABOUT THIS, CORRECT, ON THE PORTICO SUNDAY MORNING. >> IT WAS ABOUT THE PROCEDURE. >>LUIS VIERA: PASTOR DE LA ROSA. I JUST REMEMBERED. THANK YOU. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: FACE WORTH 100 WORDS. >> DANIEL ANDERI, 1308 WEST CYPRESS, TAMPA, FLORIDA. GOOD AFTERNOON, CITY COUNCIL. WE ARE HERE TODAY TO DISCUSS THE SU-1 APPLICATION AT 2924 EAST MLK BOULEVARD. LAURA DID A GREAT JOB PRESENTING OUR INITIAL APPLICATION. I JUST WANTED TO PROVIDE A LITTLE BACKGROUND AND HISTORY TO THIS CASE. THIS PROPERTY SINCE 1926 HAD A SINGLE-FAMILY HOME STRUCTURE ON IT. UP TO MAY 2024 WHEN THERE WAS A FIRE ON ADJACENT VACANT PROPERTY TO THE WEST, WHICH THEN DESTROYED THE SINGLE-FAMILY HOME ON THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. THE DAMAGES FROM THE FIRE AND THE SMOKE WERE SUBSTANTIAL ENOUGH THAT THE OWNER, WHICH IS PORTICO HOUSING SOLUTIONS, DECIDED THAT IT WAS BEST TO DEMOLISH THE STRUCTURE WITH THE INTENT TO ALWAYS TRY TO REBUILD ANOTHER SINGLE-FAMILY HOME ON THIS PROPERTY. THAT REALLY BRINGS US HERE TODAY GIVEN THAT THE UNDERLYING ZONING IS COMMERCIAL GENERAL, WE WOULD REQUIRE AN SU-1 APPLICATION AND GIVEN HOW THE CURRENT ZONING CODES READ WITH SECTION 27-132 UNDERNEATH THE SINGLE-FAMILY DWELLING REQUIREMENTS, WE DO NOT MEET THE TECHNICAL REQUIREMENTS IN ORDER TO RESTORE THIS PROPERTY BACK TO ITS ORIGINAL USE. WITH THAT SPECIFICALLY ON SECTION 27-132, SUB SECTION A, IS THE REQUIREMENT WE ARE LOOKING FOR SUPPORT FOR APPROVAL FOR. WE DO NOT -- THIS PARCEL IS NOT ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL USES. THERE IS A VACANT COMMERCIAL LOT TO THE WEST, A RAILROAD TO THE EAST AND A CHURCH TO THE NORTH AND NORTHWEST. AND WITH THAT, WE ARE HERE, I GUESS, REQUESTING APPROVAL. MYSELF AND ALSO CO-FOUNDER OF PORTICO HOUSING SOLUTIONS JUSTIN DE LA ROSA IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? ARE YOU WITH THE APPLICANT? >> PARDON ME. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOUR THE APPLICANT? >> YES. JUSTIN LA ROSA. AND I AM ONE OF THE CO-FOUNDERS OF PORTICO HOUSING SOLUTION. I WANT TO COLLAR IF I ONE THING AND ADD SOMETHING AS YOU ALL DELIBERATE. PORTICO HOUSING SOLUTION IS A SEPARATE 501-C-3 DIFFERENT THAN THE PORTICO. PORT COIS THE PORTICO INITIATIVES CONNECTED TO HYDE PARK METHODIST CHURCH. WHERE WORTH COHOUSING SOLUTIONS HAVE NO CONNECTION TO HYDE PARK METHODIST CHURCH. ONE CLARIFICATION THERE. ALSO DANIEL DID A GOOD JOB OF OVERVIEWING. FIRE IN THE ADJACENT LOT WAS DISCOVERED BY THE FIRE MARSHAL, NOT TO BE CONNECTED WITH US IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM. SOME OUR HOPE -- PORTICO HOUSING SOLUTION IS ABOUT BRIDGING FORMALLY HOMELESS MEN TO TRANSFORMATION THROUGH EMPLOYMENT, SUPPORT CASE MANAGEMENT AND COUNSELING. AND WE HAVE HAD SINCE -- YOU KNOW, SINCE 2016, WE HAVE BEEN HELPING FOLKS DO THAT. SO THIS IS -- THIS IS ONE OF OUR PROPERTIES THAT THAT -- THAT DID THAT. AND WE ARE HOPING TO CONTINUE TO DO THAT AS WELL. I ALSO KNOW THAT THE CHURCH IS HERE AND FORCED TO PROVIDE SOME OF THEIR OWN COMMENTARY WHY IT SHOULDN'T BE DONE. AND PASTOR FRANK LOGAN IS HERE. AND WE HAVE HAD CONVERSATIONS. WE DISAGREE. AND -- BUT WE HAVE BEEN RESPECTFUL THE WHOLE TIME WITH ONE ANOTHER. AND WHAT I WOULD SAY TO YOU IS THERE ARE NO POLICE CALLS OUT TO THIS RESIDENCE. AND THE -- THE -- AND PASTOR FRANK REACHED OUT TO ME AUGUST 2014 TO PURCHASE THE PROPERTY FOR THEIR CHURCH -- FOR A CHURCH PARKING LOT. THAT IS INFORMATION AND I WILL ANSWER QUESTIONS. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: BROUGHT UP THE CHURCH, WITH, WHERE IS THE CHURCH LOCATED? >> DANIEL WILL SHOW YOU. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: VERY TOP IS A WHEEL. OTHER WAY. THERE WE GO. >> TO THE NORTH-NORTHWEST IS -- WHERE THE CHURCH IS. AND THE SMALL DASHED RED LINE IS THE PARCEL. >> THAT TRIANGULAR. >> REGULARLY-SHAPED LOT. TRIANGULAR. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU. DOES THAT FINISH YOUR PRESENTATION. YOU WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADD ADDITIONAL REBUTTAL IF YOU NEED IT. >> THANK YOU. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY NOW FOR PUBLIC TO SPEAK. IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO LINE UP ON THE SIDE. I WILL CALL YOU UP ONE AT A TIME. YOU WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES EACH AND YOU START WITH YOUR NAME. ANYONE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK TO THIS APPLICATION, WE CAN START WITH NUMBER ONE. ANYBODY ELSE WHO WANTS TO LINE UP AND WILL BE IN ORDER, YOU CAN DO THAT. YES, PASTOR. FLIP IT UP ON THE OTHER SIDE. AND YOU CAN ZOOM BACK OUT IF YOU WANT TO. IF THAT IS ENOUGH. AND CAN WE GET THE WOLF ON THE PUBLIC MONITORS, PLEASE. THERE WE GO. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COUNCIL. MY NAME IS FRANK LOGAN.I AM A TAMPA RESIDENT AND PASTOR OF FAITH OPEN LOVE MEN MYSTERIES, A CHURCH THAT IS LOCATED DIRECTLY TO THE NORTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY. I WANT TO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO VOICE OUR CONCERNS. THERE ARE CONCERNS OF MYSELF AND ALSO MY CONGREGATION WHO ARE REPRESENTED BY A FEW OF US HERE TODAY. FIRST, I WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT WE ARE NOT AGAINST DEVELOPMENT. WE ARE NOT AGAINST HOUSING. WE BELIEVE IN THOUGHTFUL GROWTH THAT PROTECTS RESIDENTS AND STRINGEN NEIGHBORHOODS. I PERSONALLY MET WITH PASTOR JUSTIN. WE HAD RESPECTFUL CONVERSATIONS AFTER THE PROPERTY HAD THE FIRE. I DID REACH OUT TO HIM TO SEE IF IT WAS AVAILABLE FOR US TO PURCHASE FOR A PARKING LOT, BUT WE ARE HERE TODAY BECAUSE WE WANT TO EXPLAIN SOME OF THE HISTORY THAT WE HAD WITH THE PROPERTY. THE HISTORY OF THIS PROPERTY HAS GIVEN US REAL PUBLIC SAFETY CONCERNS. THE PROPERTY WAS PREVIOUSLY OCCUPIED, FUNCTIONING AS WHAT WE UNDERSTAND TO BE A TRANSITIONAL HOME, WHICH HAD FREQUENT TURNOVERS AND PATTERNS THAT DISRUPTED THE AREA. WE DO SUPPORT SUCH PROGRAMS, BUT THE CITY ALSO HAS A RESPONSIBILITY TO CONSIDER THE REAL IMPACT OF THE PROPERTIES ON THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD. SO THE BACK YARD OF THIS PARTICULAR HOME, IT FACES ONE OF THE ENTRANCES TO OUR CHURCH. AND MANY OF CONGREGANTS WOULD COME TO ME AFTER THE PRAYER SESSIONS WHEN THEY WOULD EXIT THE CHURCH SMELL DIFFERENT SMOKE AND THINGS IN THE AIR WITH THE ACTIVITY GOING ON IN THE BACK YARD. AND THERE WAS ALSO A LOT OF TRAFFIC AROUND THE HOUSE. THERE WASN'T ADEQUATE PARKING, SO THERE WILL BE CARS THAT WOULD BE PARKED ON THE VACANT LOT THAT IS ALSO ADJACENT TO THE HOUSE AND OUR CHURCH AS WELL. AND THESE THINGS CAUSED US CONCERN. SO WE BELIEVE THAT THIS HOUSE IS NOT COMPATIBLE WITH NEIGHBORHOOD AS IT EXISTS TODAY. AS IT WAS MENTIONED, THE HOUSE WAS BUILT BACK IN 1926. AND BACK THEN, THE AREA WAS RESIDENTIAL, BUT SINCE THEN, IT HAS DRAMATICALLY CHANGED. TODAY THE LOT SITS RIGHT NEXT TO OUR CHURCH, WHICH SERVES THE CHILDREN FAMILIES SENIORS AND HOLDS DIFFERENT PRAYER SESSIONS THROUGHOUT THE WEEK. SO I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THIS IS A SIGNIFICANT ISSUE TO US BECAUSE OF THE COMMUNITY THAT WE SERVE. WE DON'T WANT TO TAKE TAMPA BACK TO 1929. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD THE FUTURE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: OKAY. VERY GOOD. NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE. START WITH YOUR NAME. AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. >> JOHNNY CORTINAS, PART OF THE FAITH OPEN LOVE MEN TREE CONGREGATION. AND I KNOW THIS HEARING IS ABOUT THE DWELLING ITSELF, THE ZONING, COMMERCIAL GENERAL. AND THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT IN CONSIDERATION TO BUILD THE BUILDING OF THE HOUSE, BUT I THINK BEYOND THE BUILDING OF THE UNIT, WE HAVE TO ALSO CONSIDER WHAT THE TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN INCLUDES, WHERE COMMERCIAL GENERAL PROPERTY CAN INCLUDE RESIDENTIAL. BUT I THINK THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY CLOSE TO THE TRACKS AND STREET THAT IT IS IN, IT IS A HIGH-VOLUME TRAFFIC STREET. AND I, MYSELF, I MAINTAIN THE GROUNDS AT THE CHURCH. AND I MAINTAIN -- MAINTAIN THE GROUNDS EARLY IN THE MORNING, MIDDAY DURING THE WEEK. IT IS VERY HIGH TRAFFIC. SO ONCE A FAMILY OCCUPIES THAT PROPERTY, IT IS A FAMILY DWELLING, THEN THE SAFETY OF THE FAMILY AND THE CONSIDERATION OF THE LOCATION. I HAVE BEEN IN DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES. I HAVE OWNED HOMES. I HAVE BEEN IN A HOUSE -- HOUSING THROUGH AIR FORCE. WHERE I AM RETIRED AIR FORCE. AND PARTICIPATED IN DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES, RENTALS, OWNING HOUSES,. AND I SEE A SAFETY CONCERN BEYOND THE DWELLING BEING BUILT. REFERENCE TO TRAFFIC AND EVEN THE NOISE FROM THE TRACKS AND THE RAILROAD TRAIN. SO IN CONSIDERATION WITH THAT, I THINK AND MOVING FORWARD AND CONSIDERING HOW TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN 2040, I THINK THAT THIS PARTICULAR CONSIDERATION SHOULD ALSO BE THOUGHT -- SHOULD BE VERY THOUGHTFUL WITH REGARDS TO THE SAFETY OF THE FAMILIES THAT WOULD OCCUPY IT, EITHER INDIVIDUAL OWNER OR THE PROPERTY BEING RENTED OUT. TASK AND BURDEN IS BEING PUT ON THE FAMILIES REGARDING THE TRAFFIC AND THE NOISE. I HAVE BEEN IN DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES WHERE I HAVE SEEN SIGNS, SLOW DOWN, CHILDREN AT PLAY. AND THEN ALSO SPEED BUMPS IN THE COMMUNITY. I DON'T SEE THAT HAPPENING IN THE MARTIN LUTHER KING, JR. STREET FOR THE TRAFFIC THAT THERE IS THERE. SO I ARE HE CAN NICE THAT THIS PROPOSAL HAS BEEN DECLINED ALREADY BY THE 27-132, BUT I ALSO WANT TO CONSIDER THE FACT THAT BEYOND THE BUILDING, THERE IS ALSO CONSIDERATIONS FOR THE FAMILIES. THANK YOU. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NEXT SPEAKER PLEASE. START WITH YOUR NAME. WERE YOU SWORN IN? WHEN WE STARTED? RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. >> YOU ARE TALKING TO ME? >> ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE HAS THAT COME IN SINCE -- IF YOU ARE PLANNING TO SPEAK, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND TO BE SWORN IN. [SWEARING IN] >> ABSOLUTELY, YES. THANK YOU. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: START WITH YOUR NAME. YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, SHELETTE DAVIS. I RUN A NONPROFIT, INC. OF METRO TAMPA. I'M HERE TO SPEAK FROM MY HEART IN SUPPORT OF PORTICO HOUSING SOLUTIONS. AND REALLY JUST WANT TO TALK OF THE DIFFERENCES MADE. NOT ONLY IN THE LIVES OF THE -- OF THE CLIENTS THAT WE SERVE, BUT JUST IN THE LIVES OF THESE HOMELESS WORKING MEN. I HAVE BEEN CONNECTED TO THIS MINISTRY SINCE ITS INCEPTION. I -- YOU KNOW, I HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF WORKING FOR HYDE PARK UNITED METHODIST IN THEIR JUSTICE MINISTRY. AND WE ACTUALLY WORKED WITH A LOT OF THESE GENTLEMEN WHENEVER THEY WERE GOING THROUGH THE BURDENS OF FINES AND FEES IN PARTNERSHIPS WITH LOVE, INC. AT THAT TIME. MR. MICHAEL DOYLE ALONG WITH THERE THAD VERADAY A VOLUNTEER FOR LOVE, INC. HELPED THE GENTLEMAN WHO LIVED IN THIS HOME REGAIN SOME SENSE OF FINANCIAL FREEDOM AND ALLOWED THEM TO EARN DRIVER'S LICENSE AGAIN. JUST RECENTLY, JUST IN THE LAST YEAR, I HAVE HAD TO TURN TO PORTICO HOUSING TO HELP ME HOUSE AN 82-YEAR-OLD GENTLEMAN WHO I FOUND OUT IN THE FREEZING COLD ONE JANUARY. AN IT BROKE HIGH HEART, BECAUSE THIS MAN HAD WORKED HIS ENTIRE LIFE. HE WAS A PROFESSOR. HE HAD ADVANCED DEGREES. HE WORKED HIS ENTIRE LIFE. WE FOUND HIM OUT IN THE FREEZING COLD BECAUSE HE COULD NOT AFFORD TO RENT HIS PLACE ANYMORE. AND IT WAS BECAUSE OF PORTICO HOUSING SOLUTION THAT IS WE WERE ABLE TO FIND JUST THAT BRIDGE, THAT EMERGENCY HOUSING FOR THIS GENTLEMAN TO GIVE HIM SOME REFUGE OUT OF THE COLD AND GIVE US ENOUGH TIME TO REGROUP, COLLABORATE TOGETHER, AND FIND A MORE PERMANENT HOUSING SOLUTION FOR HIM. AND WE ARE STILL WORKING WITH THIS GENTLEMAN. SO I UNDERSTAND THAT NEIGHBORS MAY PERCEIVE THINGS TO BE HAPPENING, YOU KNOW, AT THIS PROPERTY. I WASN'T THERE. I CAN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THAT. I HONESTLY KNOW THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE WORKING WITH THESE PEOPLE, AND I PERSONALLY HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING IN TERMS OF TROUBLES LIKE THAT BECAUSE THESE HOUSES ARE SET UP TO BE SOBER LIVING. AND I JUST HOPE THAT WHATEVER DECISIONS YOU MAKE TODAY WILL BE A DECISION TO SUPPORT THE FUTURES OF WORKING HOMELESS MEN HERE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA. SOME THANK YOU. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANYONE ELSE IN PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? OKAY. NOW WE WILL GO TO ADDITIONAL STAFF COMMENTS. I ACTUALLY HAVE -- I HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF. MISS MARLEY. >>LAURA MARLEY: YES, I AM. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CAN WE GET HER IMAGE ON THE COUNCIL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. CAN YOU PUT UP AN OVERHEAD OF NEIGHBORHOOD AND KIND OF GIVE US A SENSE OF THE CURRENT USE OF PROPERTY WITHIN THAT BLOCK AND ACROSS THE STREET? >>LAURA MARLEY: SURE, IF I CAN SHARE MY SCREEN AGA SEE MY SCREEN? >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE CAN SEE YOUR SCREEN AND -- THERE YOU GO. THANK YOU. >>LAURA MARLEY: THIS IS THE -- LOOKING AT THE SITE FROM EAST MARTIN LUTHER KING, JR. BOULEVARD. TO THE RIGHT WHERE THERE IS THE PALM TREES, THAT IS THE TRAIN TRACKS. TO THE NORTHWEST, THIS IS THE HOUSE -- THE HOUSE OF WORSHIP. AND BRING UP THE AERIAL. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SHE WILL SHOW THE AERIAL. >>LAURA MARLEY: AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE THE TRAIN TRACKS TO EAST. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CAN YOU DESCRIBE THE USAGES OF THE PROPERTIES AROUND -- LIKE IN THAT WALK ACROSS THE STREET AND ADJACENT? I SEE -- >>LAURA MARLEY: ACROSS THE STREET IS COMMERCIAL. I -- I AM NOT SURE WHAT THE BUSINESS NAME IS. TO THE WEST IS VACANT COMMERCIAL. NEXT TO THAT IS ANOTHER COMMERCIAL. AND THEN TO THE -- ACROSS THE TRAIN TRACKS ON THE NORTHEAST, THAT'S MULTIFAMILY. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. >>LYNN HURTAK: AREN'T THERE SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENCES ACROSS THE STREET? I DIDN'T THINK THAT WAS COMMERCIAL. IT IS ZONED COMMERCIAL, BUT IS THAT AREA IS PRETTY RESIDENTIAL ALONG MLK. >>LAURA MARLEY: LET ME GO TO AN AERIAL AND SEE IF I CAN ACTUALLY LOCATE WHAT THAT IS. I AM SORRY. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THERE IS A TIGER ACROSS THE SCREEN. >>LAURA MARLEY: I LOVE TIGERS. [LAUGHTER] >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NOW WE JUST NEED SOME -- >>LYNN HURTAK: GOOD JOB. YOU CAN NAME THE ANIMALS. VERY PROUD OF YOU. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ME AND OUR PRESIDENT. [LAUGHTER] >>LAURA MARLEY: SO THIS IS LIKE -- CAN YOU SEE MY SCREEN LOOKING AT THE AERIAL. I MEAN, LOOKING AT ACROSS THE STREET. >>LYNN HURTAK: A SUBSTATION. >>LAURA MARLEY: THAT IS A SUBSTATION. AND THIS IS -- I -- I HONESTLY CAN'T TELL YOU WHAT IT IS, BUT IT DOES NOT LOOK LIKE IT IS USED. AND THEN FURTHER DOWN, WE HAVE -- IT LOOKS LIKE A BARBERSHOP. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NOW WE KNOW WHERE WE ARE AT. I WASN'T ABLE TO PLACE IT, BUT NOW I KNOW WHERE WE ARE AT. >>LAURA MARLEY: AND THIS WAY, IT LOOKS LIKE -- THERE IS SOME PARKING AN RESIDENTIAL, BUT THAT IS ACROSS THE STREET OVER BY THE RAILROAD TRACKS. UP HERE THIS IS THE MULTIFAMILY THAT I WAS REFERENCING. AND THEN OVER HERE, SOME MORE SINGLE-FAMILY. SO THE SINGLE-FAMILY IS BEHIND ALL OF THE COMMERCIAL-TYPE USES. WHILE THIS ISN'T VERY CLEAR WHAT IT IS, IF IT WAS USED AS COMMERCIAL OR RESIDENTIAL, BUT RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET IS THE SUBSTATION. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE CHURCH, ON OTHER SIDE OF THE RAILROAD TRACKS, WHAT IS THAT? >>LAURA MARLEY: THIS ARE IS -- >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I AM GETTING DIZZY. >>LAURA MARLEY: I AM SO SORRY. I AM NOT EXACT LEISURE WHAT THIS IS TAMPA. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: OKAY, OKAY. VERY GOOD. MAYBE WE CAN ASK THE APPLICANT TO DESCRIBE IT TO US. OKAY. OKAY. VERY GOOD. COUNCIL HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY. HEARING NONE, APPLICANT, YOU HAVE AN APPLICANT FOR REBUTTAL. IN YOUR REBUTTAL, CAN YOU DESCRIBE THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES AN FILL IN THE GAPS WITH THESE PICTURES. AND START WITH YOUR NAME. >> SO MORE NORTH OF THE SUBJECT -- >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU HAVE TO START WITH YOUR NAME AGAIN. >> DANIEL ANDERI. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU. WE WILL START YOUR TIME NOW. THANK YOU. >> THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS HERE BY THE PEN IN THE RED DASHED LINE. AND JUST MORE NORTH OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY ARE SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL USES. AND THEN AS WE SAW ALONG MLK, MORE TOWARD THE EAST AND ALONG THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF MLK, THERE ARE SINGLE-FAMILY STRUCTURES THAT EITHER AS WE SAW IN THE EXAMPLE ARE VACANT OR MORE RESIDENTIAL USES ALONG THE EASTERN SIDE OF THE PROPERTY. AND THEN SIMILARLY TO THE SOUTH OF MLK, THERE IS RM-16, RM-18 FILLED WITH SINGLE-FAMILY USES AS WELL. JUST A COUPLE OF OTHER, I GUESS, COMMENTS THAT CAME UP. FOR PROXIMITY RAILROAD, THERE IS A CLEARANCE AND WILL BE THERE IF WE MOVE FORWARD. AND THAT'S ABOUT IT FOR REBUTTAL. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: GO AHEAD. >> JUSTIN LA ROSA. JUST TO KNOW THAT EACH MAN IN OUR PROGRAM HAS CASE MANAGER. AND ALSO HAS A THERAPIST TO SEE. SO THE CASE MANAGER WHO IS HERE ACTUALLY STOPS BY AT LEAST ONCE A WEEK. SO IT IS A MONITORED KIND OF SITUATION. AND DEPENDING ON HOW YOU RULE, IF WE ARE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD AND I WOULD WELCOME TO WORK WITH PASTOR FRANK IF THERE ARE ANY CONCERNS ASSOCIATED WITH IT. BUT, AS I SAID BEFORE, THERE HAVE BEEN NO CALLS TO PROPERTY FOR ANY PROBLEMS. >> THE TYPICAL DURATION FOR AN OCCUPANT AS PART OF THE PORTICO HOUSING SOLUTION IS AT LEAST 12 MONTHS. >> 12 MONTHS FOLLOWING THE PROGRAMMATIC REQUIREMENTS, YES. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: DOES THAT CONCLUDE YOUR REBUTTAL? >> YES, SIR. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. YOU HAD SOMETHING? STAY THERE FOR A SECOND, SHE MAY HAVE A QUESTION. >>LYNN HURTAK: I THINK I HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF, IF SHE IS AVAILABLE. >>LAURA MARLEY: YES, MA'AM. >>LYNN HURTAK: THIS IS SIMPLY AN SU-1 FOR THE PROPERTY. ANTHER JUST SIMPLY ASKING FOR SINGLE-FAMILY ZONING, CORRECT? THEY ARE NOT ASKING FOR ANY SORT OF SPECIAL EXTRA CLASSIFICATION BECAUSE OF -- >>LAURA MARLEY: CORRECT. >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY, THANK YOU. >>LAURA MARLEY: YOU ARE WELCOME. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCIL HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? I SAW A GENTLEMAN IN THE FRONT ROW. ARE YOU WITH THE APPLICANT? >> NO, I KNOW YOU DID PUBLIC COMMENT. YOU DIDN'T CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT, I WANTED TO SAY ONE THING -- ALAN CLENDENIN: IT IS CLOSED UNLESS COUNCIL WANTS TO -- >>MARTIN SHELBY: MY RECOMMENDATION. >>LYNN HURTAK: WILL HAVE TO GIVE REBUTTAL. >>MARTIN SHELBY: HE HAS THE RIGHT. IF THE GENTLEMAN IS HERE -- >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HAVE YOU BEEN SWORN IN? >>MARTIN SHELBY: A MOTION TO CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HAVE YOU BEEN SWORN IN? STAND AND RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND THE CLERK WILL SWEAR YOU IN. [SWEARING IN] . >> YES. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: VERY GOOD. START WITH YOUR NAME AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. >> ALL RIGHT, ANTHONY DANIELS. I -- I DON'T HAVE A DOG IN THIS FIGHT, BUT I WAS THERE. I WITNESSED THE FIRE. SO I SAW HOW IT ALL STARTED. THE GUY WHO WAS LIVING THERE, AGAIN, I FEEL COMPASSIONATE ABOUT THAT GUY BECAUSE JUST AN UFRPT SITUA-- UNFORTUNATE SITUA PORTICO PROVIDES IT AS A TRANSITIONAL SITUATION FOR PEOPLE WITH HOUSING AND THAT NATURE. I AM GLAD THAT HE LIVED. BECAUSE I -- I HAD TO TELL HIM TO GET OUT OF THERE, BECAUSE HE WAS TRYING TO DO THE MOST. BUT HE GOT OUT ALIVE, SO I AM GLAD HE DIDN'T GET HARMED, BUT I DO THINK THAT PORTICO PLANS TO TRY TO REUSE THAT PROPERTY FOR THE SAME TYPE OF ANSGENDA THAT THEY WERE DOING AND I WILL SUPPORT THAT COMPLETELY IF THAT IS WHAT THEY ARE GOING TO USE IT FOR AS A TRANSITIONAL HOME FOR PLACEMENT OF PEOPLE IN THOSE TYPE OF CIRCUMSTANCES, I WOULD DEFINITELY SUPPORT THAT. I HOPE YOU DO TOO. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: OKAY, THANK YOU. MISS POYNOR, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK. >> SIN YOU OPEN IT BACK UP. STEPHANIE POYNOR. EVERY TIME I GO TO A NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING PEOPLE COMPLAIN OF THE HOMELESS, EVERY SINGLE TIME. I AM SURE YOU HEAR TOO. THE PROBLEM IS IF WE PUSH BACK EVERY TIME SOMEONE IS TRYING TO PUT IN A FACILITY OR A WAY TO GET THOSE FOLKS OFF THE STREET, THEN IT KIND OF GOES AGAINST THE WHOLE CONCEPT, YOU KNOW. YOU EXPECT HAVE IT BOTH WAYS. THEY GOT TO LIVE SOMEWHERE. AND, YOU KNOW, I HAVE -- I HAVE PROVIDED HOUSING FOR PEOPLE WITH MENTAL ISSUES AND WHO HAD ISSUE BUFFERS. AND IT IS A TOUGH ROAD TO HOE. HE CAN'T DO IT NOW BECAUSE MY PROPERTIES ARE 900 MILES AWAY AND I CANNOT BABY SIT THEM. I PERSONALLY IN THE PAST IF I LIVED A MILE FROM THERE, I COULD DEAL WITH SOME OF THAT. THAT IS WHY THEY HAVE SUPPORT SERVICES. TRUST ME I LIVE IN A NICE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND I HAVE A BUNCH OF CRAZY PEOPLE WHO LIVED THERE OVER THE YEARS TOO. I THEY FOUND EVERY CRAZY PERSON TO SELL HOUSE TOO. THE FUTURE IS THE INHABITANTS -- I AM THERE AND I AM THE CRAZIEST OF CRAZIES. BOTTOM LINE, IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE IT IS AGAINST THE HOUSE WHO IS THE ISSUE BUT WHO IS GOING TO LIVE IN THE HOUSE. AND, YOU KNOW, WHAT DO WE TRULY WANT? I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ANSWER IS, BUT I JUST -- THIS IS JUST MY OBSERVATIONS. YOU WANT PEOPLE OFF THE STREET, BUT THEN YOU DON'T WANT THEM TO LIVE NEXT TO YOU. IT IS A HARD ROAD TO HOE. WE DEALT WITH IT AT THE CIVIC CENTER. BUT THE GROCERY BOX AT THE CURB AND WE HAD HOMELESS CAMPING OUT AT THE PROPERTY EVERY TIME SOMEBODY PUT GROCERIES, THEY WOULD BE GETTING FIRST DIBS ON THE GROCERIES. ALL NEIGHBORS WERE PISSED OFF AT US BECAUSE WE WERE FEEDING PEOPLE. DAMNED IF DO YOU AND DAMNED IF YOU DON'T, BUT WE GOT TO FIGURE OUT WHERE WE START. YOU CAN'T STOP -- WE CAN'T CONTINUE TO IGNORE THE PROBLEM, BECAUSE IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE THE SINGLE-FAMILY HOME IS THE PROBLEM, IT SOUNDS LIKE THE OCCUPANTS ARE THE ISSUE. THANK YOU, HAVE A GOOD DAY. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK. YOU ALREADY SPOKE? ONLY ONE BITE AT THE APPLE. I SAW -- YOU WANT TO SPEAK? >> YES, I DO. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU WERE SWORN IN. >> I WAS NOT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: OKAY, HERE WE GO AGAIN. RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. [SWEARING IN] >> YES. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU. START WITH YOUR NAME, PLEASE. >> MY NAME IS M.J. JOHNSON. I AM PART OF LOVE, INC. I KNOW SHELLETTE CAME UP AND SPOKE EARLIER, BUT THE PORT COHOUSE WIG OFFERS TRANSITIONAL HOUSING FOR THE MEN. A FEW MEN THAT WE ACTUALLY KNOW THAT RESIDE THERE OR RESIDED THERE. AND THEY TRULY JUST TRYING TO GET THEIR LIFE BACK ON TRACK. I HEARD EVERYTHING THAT THE CHURCH STATED, BUT THE CHURCH IS ACTUALLY HERE TO SERVE. SO IN ACTUALITY, WE SHOULD ALL BE WORKING TOGETHER. BEEN UP HERE BEFORE, AN IT IS JUST -- HOW CAN WE HAVE UNITY IN THE COMMUNITY AND THIS IS A WAY WHERE THESE MEN ARE COMING FROM A PLACE OF -- THEY HAVE ALREADY BEEN JUDGED. THEY DON'T NEED TO BE JUDGED ANYMORE AND THE HOUSING PROVIDES THAT. AND EVEN SPEAKING FOR MYSELF, CURRENTLY STAY IN A HOUSING THAT IS TRANSITIONAL AND YOU DON'T KNOW THE HELP AND THE SERVICE THEY ARE PROVIDING. TAKING YOUR LIFE BEING ON THE STREETS TO ACTUALLY PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY CARE AND THAT IS ALL THE PORTICO HOUSING IS ATTEMPTING TO DO. WE CAN COME WITH OUR WORRIES ALL DAY LONG, BUT TRULY ABOUT HOW CAN WE SERVE COMMUNITY AND THIS IS A WAY THEY ARE SERVING THE COMMUNITY AND HONESTLY, I SUPPORT IT. IT MAY HAVE BURNT DOWN ONCE, WHATEVER HAPPENED BEFORE WILL NOT HAPPEN AGAIN. AND I BELIEVE WE ALL SHOULD COME TOGETHER AS A COMMUNITY TO SUPPORT THESE MEN AND WOMEN FOR THAT MATTER. THEY ARE GOING FROM ONE PHASE OF THEIR LIFE TO ANOTHER PHASE. TRULY, TRULY, WE DO NEED THE TRANSITIONAL HOUSING. I UNDERSTAND THE ENVIRONMENT, BUT WE CAN ALL DO YOU THIS TOGETHER AND THAT'S WHAT IT IS ALL ABOUT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I WAS THINKING THE SAME THING. ASSUMING THAT ALL OF THE SPEAKERS HAVE IN FAVOR BECAUSE THE APPLICANT DOESN'T HAVE A REBUTTAL TO THE FAVORABLE DISCUSSION. SO WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA. ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION. >>LYNN HURTAK: I JUST WANT TO TALK. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE CAN TALK. MAKE A MOTION OR TALK OR TALK AND MAKE A MOTION. >>LYNN HURTAK: I WILL LET COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO MAKE A MOTION IF HE WANTS TO. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: RECOGNIZE COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. >>LYNN HURTAK: I UNDERSTAND THE PASSIONS ON BOTH SIDES AND UNFORTUNATELY NOBODY SPOKE TO THE ISSUE IN HAND WHICH IS THE SU-1. WE CAN'T CONSIDER WHO IS GOING TO LIVE THERE. WE CAN'T CONSIDER WHAT IS BEING DONE. ALL WE CAN CONSIDER IS THE PROPERTY RIGHT OR IS THE SINGLE-FAMILY APPROPRIATE FOR THIS LOCATION. THAT IS ALL WE CAN CONSIDER. WE CANNOT CONSIDER -- WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WILL HAPPEN. THIS HOUSE COULD BE SOLD. SHOULD THE HOUSE BELONG THERE? SO I THOUGHT WHAT COUNCILMAN -- OR WHAT CHAIR CLENDENIN ASKED ABOUT WHAT IS SURROUNDING IT. AND IS THE REASON WE ARE HERE. BECAUSE THERE ISN'T RESIDENTIAL SURROUNDING IT ON BOTH SIDES. BUT THE ONE SIDE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE TRACKS HAD THE MULTIFAMILY. SO, I MEAN, I -- I PERSONALLY WILL SUPPORT THIS, BECAUSE IT IS PUTTING HOUSING WHERE WE DESPERATELY NEED HOUSING. BUT I JUST WANTED FOLKS TO KNOW THAT WE TECHNICALLY CANNOT CONSIDER ANYTHING THAT WAS SAID ABOUT WHAT THE PROPERTY IS TO BE USED FOR. BECAUSE LEGALLY WE CAN'T DO THAT. LEGALLY WE ARE FOCUSED ON THE SU-1. IS IT THE PROPER PLACE TO PUT SINGLE-FAMILY. THANK YOU. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO. DO YOU WANT TO MAKE A MOTION OR TALK. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WILL TALK AND THEN I WILL MAKE A MOTION. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LOOKING AT SU-1. COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK MENTION IT. WE CAN'T CONSIDER WHAT IS GOING ON THE PROPERTY. IN LOOKING AT THIS, IT IS INTERESTING. THIS PROPERTY GOES RIGHT UP AGAINST THE RAILROAD TRACKS. IF YOU GO WEST, YOU SEE WHERE THERE IS A LOT MORE COMMERCIAL. WHEN YOU START GOING EAST -- BASICALLY STARTING WITH THE EMPTY LOTS ARE AND WHERE THIS HOUSE USED TO BE, EVEN THOUGH IT IS NOT -- IT WAS ZONED CI ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET, BUT A LOT OF SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES. MARTIN LUTHER KING, JR., IN THIS SECTION, IS INTERESTING, BECAUSE IT IS A VERY BUSY TRAVELED ROAD, BUT THERE IS A LOT OF SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES THERE, A LOT THAT ARE HISTORICAL AND BEEN THERE 100 YEARS. SOME ARE MID-CENTURY. BUT RIGHT HERE, WHAT IS INTERESTING IS WHEN YOU START ON SHORT 30th STREET, IT -- IT TRANSITIONS INTO A LOT MORE RESIDENTIAL. NOW ON OTHER SIDE OF THE TRAIN TRACKS, THERE IS THAT MULTIFAMILY. SO WE HAVE -- WE HAVE RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY ON THAT SIDE. WHEN WE GO TO THE OTHER SIDE OF THE TRAIN TRACKS AND OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET, A LOT OF SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES. SO I THINK IT IS APPROPRIATE. AND I WOULD BE MAKING A MOTION TO OVERTURN THE DENIAL AND AFFIRM THE SPECIAL USE BASED ON THAT. NOW IF THIS -- ON OTHER SIDE OF 30 PRESIDENTS GOING WEST WHERE YOU SEE A LOT OF COMMERCIAL -- A LOT MORE COMMERCIAL STRUCTURES, IT WOULD BE A DIFFERENT STORY. BUT IN THIS CASE, YOU ARE GOING INTO THAT RESIDENTIAL SECTION. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO -- >>LYNN HURTAK: THERE IS NO MOTION. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SO FOR DISCUSSION, I WILL TALK ABOUT IT. THIS IS ONE OF THOSE ODD SITUATIONS BECAUSE IT IS A VERY UNIQUE PARCEL. AND WHILE WE CRAFT RULES FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA TO COVER AS MUCH AS WE POSSIBLY CAN, YOU KNOW, THERE IS ALWAYS GOING TO BE THOSE ONE-OFFS AND THE DIFFICULT POSITION WE PUT STAFF IN WHEN THESE ISSUES COME UP. WE ASK STAFF TO INTERPRET RULES BASED ON WHAT IS 99.9%. EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE, WE GET THESE ODDBALLS THAT -- A SQUARE PEG TRYING TO PUT IN A ROUND HOLE AND JUST DOESN'T. WHERE THE ECONOMY IS RIGHT NOW, WHERE THIS ROAD IS, IT -- IF NOT HERE, THEN WHERE. THAT IS MY -- THE POINT THAT KEEPS -- I UNDERSTAND ABOUT THE USAGE AND STUFF ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT THIS STICK PARCEL DOESN'T WANT TO FIT WHAT WE LOOK AT AS FAR AS LONG-TERM LAND USE AND OUR GOALS. I THINK THIS IS REASONABLE REQUEST. AND I UNDERSTAND WHY STAFF DENIED IT BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO CONFORM WITH THE BLACK AND WHITE OF THE TEXT. WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE COMMON SENSE AND LOOK AT THE PARCEL AND TRY TO DECIDE WHAT THE BEST USE OF THAT PARTICULAR LAND IS FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA. I WILL SUPPORT THIS AS WELL, WHILE IT IS NOT NECESSARILY THE USE. DO APPLAUD THE USE. CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT WE NEED IN THE CITY OF TAMPA OF BEING ABLE TO HOUSE FOLKS AND HAVE TRANSITIONAL TYPE OF HOUSING. A CRISIS NOT JUST IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, BUT IN OUR COUNTRY. AND WE HAVE TO RECOGNIZE THAT IS A NEED THAT WE -- AND I APPLAUD THE PEOPLE WHO WANT TO PROVIDE THAT NEED. BECAUSE THERE IS A LOT OF FOLKS OUT THERE THAT SUFFER AND IT IS GOOD. SO THIS IS -- AGAIN, ONE OF THOSE ONE-OFFS. IT IS DIFFICULT TO CONFORM TO THE BLACK AND WHITE RULES BUT I WILL SUPPORT IT. COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YOU LOOK AT THIS UNDER ONE ITEM AND READS THE PROPOSED USE MUST BE LOCATE ADJACENT TO THE RESIDENTIAL USE IN AT LEAST TWO BOUNDARIES. AND ONLY ONE BOUNDARY IN THIS CASE; HOWEVER, THE NEED FOR HOUSING AND THE APPLICATION AND I UNDERSTAND WHAT THE PUBLIC WAS SAYING OF DIFFERENT THINGS ABOUT SMOKE AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF. AND I WOULD BE OUTRAGED MYSELF; HOW FAR, THAT IS WHAT LAW ENFORCEMENT IS TO DO. WHAT WE HAVE HERE IS JUST AN ISSUE THAT YOU CONFLICTS WITH THE ZONINGS OF THE AREA. SO I WOULD ALSO BE SUPPORTING IT, BECAUSE ONE OVERRULES THE OTHER WITH UNBECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE EVIDENCE ON THE OTHER SAYS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALAN CLENDENIN: HEARING NOTHING ELSE. WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MAKE A MOTION TO OVERTURN THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR'S DENIAL. MOVE TO AFFIRM WHICH IS APPROVE THE SPECIAL USE APPLICATION FOR THE SU1-25-0000077 FOR THE PROPERTY 2924 EAST DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING, JR. BOULEVARD BECAUSE THE PETITIONER PROVIDED COMPETENT AND SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE TO WE HAVE A THE, I'M THAT THE PROPOSED USE MUST BE LOCATE AND ADJACENT TO THE RESIDENTIAL USE ON AT LEAST TWO BOUNDARIES OF ZONING LOT IN CODE SECTION 27-1372 FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS. ONE, IT IS AN UNIQUE PARCEL NOT BECAUSE IT IS A TRIANGULAR SHAPE, BUT IT ABUTS TRAIN TRACKS WHICH IS NOT THE NORM. BECAUSE ONCE YOU LOOK AT THE EAST SIDE OF SHORT 30th STREET, IT GOES FROM WHAT IS MORE COMMERCIAL TO GOING INTO RESIDENTIAL. AND WE SEE THAT WITH THE SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES. ALSO BECAUSE THERE IS A MULTIFAMILY PARCEL ON OTHER SIDE OF THE TRAIN TRACKS, SAME SIDE, NORTH SIDE OF DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING, JR. AND, AGAIN, THIS IS A -- THIS IS AN INTERESTING SITUATION. I WILL SAYS IT UNIQUE. AND BECAUSE OF THAT, I MAKE THIS MOTION. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I THINK I HEARD A SECOND. >>LYNN HURTAK: SECOND WITH AN AMENDMENT. MY ONLY ADDITION WOULD BE ITS REPLACING A SINGLE-FAMILY HOME THAT WAS THERE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HISTORICALLY BECAUSE IT WAS MENTIONED A HOME BUILT A CENTURY AGO. ANOTHER SINGLE-FAMILY HOME IS MOVING INTO THAT. SO WE ARE NOT MODIFYING AND CHANGING AND DOING SOMEDIFFEREN WE ARE GOING BY A STANDARD OF A STRUCTURE THAT PREDATES OUR ZONING AND CODES. ORIGINALLY IT WAS SO SOLD, 100 YEARS AGO. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. IS THIS LOADED IN OR DO A ROLL CALL. MOTION AND A SECOND, ROLL CALL VOTE. >>LUIS VIERA: YES. >>BILL CARLSON: YES. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES. >>LYNN HURTAK: YES. >>NAYA YOUNG: YES. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES. >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU. THAT CONCLUDES OUR 1:30 PUBLIC HEARING AND WE ARE ON TRACK BACK TO STAFF REPORTS. 42. THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING OUT. HEY, YOUNG MAN. HEY, YOUNG MAN. [LAU [LAUGHTER] OKAY, HERE WE GO. LET'S TALK OF RENAMING. >> MALI REGASKY, REAL ESTATE DEPARTMENT. I'M HERE FOR A PRESENTATION OF A HONORARY STREET NAMING OF TONY GARCIA, JR. IF THEY CAN PULL UP THE PRESENTATION. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IT'S UP. >> TONY GARCIA JR. WAS A RESPECTED LEADER WHOSE LIFE REFLECTED EXTRAORDINARY SERVICE TO HIS COUNTRY AND HIS COMMUNITY. BORN IN TAMPA IN 19 2, MR. GARCIA PROUDLY SERVED IN THE U.S. MILITARY DURING WORLD WAR II AND THE KOREAN WAR. AFTER RETURNING HOME, HE CONTINUED HIS COMMITMENT OF SERVICE WITH 35 YEARS AS EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE TAMPA USO. DURING HIS TIME AT THE USO, MR. GARCIA WORKED HARD TO ENSURE THAT MILITARY PERSONNEL PASSING THROUGH TAMPA FELT WELCOMED, VALUED AND AT HOME. HE BECAME KNOWN AS THE BOB HOPE OF TAMPA FORMING FRIENDSHIPS WITH COUNTLESS SERVICEMEMBERS AND WELCOMING NATIONALLY KNOWN ENTERTAINER BOB HOPE, CHERYLLY TEMPLE AND JIMMY STEWART TO ENTERTAIN THE TROOPS. HIS WORK MADE TAMPA A MEMORABLE STOP FOR VETERAN AND ONE OF THE STRONGEST ADVOCATES FOR THOSE WHO SERVED. BEYOND HIS WORK WITH THE USO, MR. GARCIA WAS A CHAMPION FOR WEST TAMPA. SERVED AS BOARD MEMBER AND EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AS THE WEST TAMPA CHAMBER OF COMMERCE AND INSTRUMENTAL IN ITS REVIVAL. PROUD OWNER OF THE HISTORY AND HELP THE CENTRO HE IS SPAN FELL IN AND THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE AMERICAN FEES HE IS AT THAT. SERVICE ON THE BOARD OF THE URBAN LEAGUE, LEADERSHIP WITH THE FOUNDATION AND CHAIR OF THE PUBLIC RELATIONS COMMITTEE FOR THE TAMPA UNITED FUND. KNOWN FOR HIS WARMTH, PROFESSIONALISM AND UNMISTAKABLE STYLE, TONY GARCIA EMPHASIZED THE BODY OF PUBLIC SERVICE. UPON HIS PASSING, HIS LEGACY WAS RECOGNIZE $ON THE FLOOR OF U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES WHERE CONGRESS JIM DAVIS WITH HIS ACT VO CA SEE OF VETERANS AND CITY OF TAMPA AS A WHOLE. PER OUR DUE DILIGENCE, THE MOBILITY DEPARTMENT WANTS TO PUT A HONORARY STREET NAMING SIGN ON THE CORNER OF WEST CHERRY STREET. THIS LOCATION IS ADJACENT TO A PEDESTRIAN CROSSWALK AND ALSO NEXT TO THE CENTRO ESPANOL BUILDING AND HIGHLY VISIBLE TO MANY COMMUNITY PEDESTRIANS. A. IF COUNCIL CHOOSES TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE HONORARY STREET NAMING, WE REQUEST A FIRST READING FOR MARCH 26 OR AFTER. AND I AM AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ANY QUESTIONS FIRST? COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA. >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. A COUPLE OF THINGS. I WANTED TO GO THROUGH A COUPLE OF THINGS. I WANTED TO -- IF I MAY, MR. CHAIR, INVITE TONY GARCIA TO COME UP. TONY, DID YOU WANT TO SAY ANYTHING? >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HE WANTS TO SING. >>LUIS VIERA: BUT DID YOU WANT TO SAY ANYTHING? >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I THINK YOU COME SHOULD COME UP AND SING. >>LUIS VIERA: SING "SUMMER OF '69. ". >>ALAN CLENDENIN: BRIAN ADAMS. >> ENOUGH ABOUT ME. THANK YOU. TONY GARCIA. A PLEASURE SEEING YOU ALL ONCE AGAIN IN THIS VENUE, EVEN THOUGH IT IS SOMETHING THAT IS A LITTLE FOREIGN TO ME NOW IN MY RETIREMENT, BUT I AM SO HONORED TO BE HERE BEFORE THIS BODY, RECOGNIZING THE ACCOMPLISHMENTS OF MY FATHER. ONLY A FEW OF YOU ON THE BOARD REALLY KNEW MY DAD. I THINK CHARLIE, MAYBE YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE. I DON'T THINK ANYBODY ELSE -- >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I COUNT FOR TWO. >> YOU COUNT FOR TWO. GUIDO. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I NEVER GOT TO MEET HIM. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CHARLIE KNEW GEORGE WASHINGTON. >>. >> CHARLIE ENJOYED MANY ADVENTURES. CHARLIE -- ONE TIME YOU HAD A RESTAURANT ON KENNEDY BOULEVARD AND THROUGH A COUPLE OF MY DAD'S EVENTS, HE HAD SOME CELEBRITIES OVER THERE THAT THAT YOU GOT TO MEET IN ADDITION TO THE ONES THAT WERE MENTIONED IN THE PRESENTATION. WE HAVE -- I HAVE NO -- I HAVE NO SINATRA PICTURES TO SHOW YOU, BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT I SHARED WITH YOU ALL SOME PICTURES OF MY DAD'S EXPLOITS WITH SOME OF THE CELEBRITIES THAT HE HAD BROUGHT. MOST OF THE ONES THAT HE HAD BROUGHT WERE ONES THAT MADE SIGNIFICANT CONTRIBUTIONS ON THEIR OWN TO THE SERVICE COMMUNITY. MY DAD WAS IN THE AIR FORCE RESERVES. AND HE WAS NOMINATED BY HIS STAFF SERGEANT TO BE CONSIDERED FOR THE POSITION OF DIRECTOR OF THE USO, WHICH HE ASSUMED IN 1957. AND PROUDLY SERVED THAT FOR 35 YEARS. HE ESTABLISHED A U.S. LOUNGE WHERE THE OLD HILLSBORO HOTEL USED TO BE AT THE CORNER OF MADISON AND FLORIDA AND USED TO BE A FRISCH'S BIG BOY IF YOU REMEMBER, CHARLIE. SERVICEMEN FROM MacDILL AND PORT THAT SHIPS COME IN FROM THE NAVY, SERVICEMEN WOULD COME ON THEIR LEAVE AND GO TO THE LOUNGE AND DAD WILL GIVE THEM TICKETS THAT HE PROCURED FROM VARIOUS PLACES FOR THEM TO EAT AT RESTAURANTS, FOR THEM TO GO TO DIFFERENT MOVIES. AND ALSO HAD A POOL TABLE UP IN HIS LOUNGE TO GO AHEAD AND JUST PLAY AND TYPEWRITER TO WRITE LETTERS TO THEIR FAMILIES AND A PHONE WHERE THEY CAN CALL HIS FAMILIES. HE ALSO, ON TOP OF THAT, FOR ABOUT 25 YEARS, HE HAD AN ANNUAL CHRISTMAS SHOW AT MacDILL AIR FORCE BASE. AT THAT SHOW, WE SEND TWO FAMILIES HOME FOR CHRISTMAS, WHICH WAS VERY, VERY NICE AS WELL. ALSO AS A SURPRISE, WOULD BRING A FAMILY INTO TAMPA FOR US -- THE SERVICE PERSON THAT DID NOT KNOW THAT THEIR FAMILY WAS GOING TO BE THERE. HE DISGUISED THEM AS ELVES OR SOMETHING ON STAGE WHILE THE OTHER PERFORMERS PERFORMED. AND AT THE END, HE WOULD SURPRISE THEM. AND THEY WOULD TAKE THEIR STUFF OFF, AND THERE WOULD BE A GOOD REUNION THERE ON STAGE WITH THIS PERSON AND THEIR FAMILY. AND I FOUND AFTER MY DAD PASSED AND WENT THROUGH ALL HIS STUFF, I HE STILL HAD THE LETTERS FROM THE PEOPLE THANKING HIM SO MUCH BRINGING THEM DOWN TO SEE THEIR FAMILY. I FOUND OUT A LOT MORE ABOUT MY DAD AFTER HE PASSED AWAY FROM PEOPLE THAT I NEVER KNOWN BEFORE THAT TOLD ME STORIES ABOUT -- IS TONY GARCIA YOUR DAD WITH THE USO? YEAH. AND THEY WOULD TELL ME ABOUT. THEY WERE NEW IN TOWN. A LADY CAME WITH HER DAUGHTER WHO IS GROWN WOMAN NOW. SHE SAID WHEN I CAME INTO TOWN I WAS A SINGLE MOM AND I HAD MY LITTLE DAUGHTER HERE AND THEY TOLD US TO GO SEE YOUR DAD. YOUR DAD HELPED ME GET ON MY FEET AND FIND A JOB. I NEVER FORGOT THAT. SHE WAS AT -- I MET HER, BECAUSE I WAS AT -- OUR AGENCIES HAD A PUBLIC HEARING AND SHE WAS THERE TO SPEAK ON SOME TOPIC AND SHE WAITED FOR THE WHOLE THING IS OVER JUST TO ASK ME THAT QUESTION. THAT IS JUST ONE EXAMPLE, BUT COUNTLESS OTHER INCIDENTS THAT I HAD MEET WITH OTHER PEOPLE THAT TOLL ME STUFF THAT I NEVER KNEW MY DAD HAD DONE. I KNEW HE WAS A FRIEND TO ALL. AND HE NEVER TURNED DOWN TRYING TO HELP PEOPLE. HE WAS JUST A SPECIAL GUY. AND -- I MISS HIM. >>LUIS VIERA: MAY I? MAY I SHOW -- YOU SENT ME SOME PICTURE. CAN I SHOW IT ON THE WOLF OR WHATEVER THEY CALL IT, IF I MAY. NEAT ONE THERE IS. >>LYNN HURTAK: THE WOLF. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU HAVE TO HOWL. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WANT TO HEAR A HOWL. >>LUIS VIERA: COUPLE OF NEAT ONES -- WE MET NINE AND A HALF YEARS AGO. AND TONY -- HE HAS ALWAYS TALKED ABOUT HIS DAD AND I GOT TO DO -- I NEVER MET LIKE CHARLIE DID, I NEVER GOT TO KNOW OBVIOUSLY HIS DAD, BUT HE WAS AN AMAZING GUY. AN AMAZING GUY. NEAT PICTURES HERE. IS THIS SEEN UP HERE? THIS IS TONY GARCIA THERE WITH SENATOR CLAUDE PEPPER, CONGRESSMAN LATER TOO. HE WAS A BIG NEW DEAL DEMOCRATIC SENATOR IN FLORIDA. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: GREAT DEFENDER OF SOCIAL JUSTICE. >> MY MOM. >>LUIS VIERA: EXCUSE ME, MRS. GARCIA. THIS IS MY FAVORITE ONE, TONY GARCIA WITH HIS SON LOOKING AT JIMMY STEWART, NOT JUST ONE OF GREATEST ACTOR WHO EVER LIVED BUT A BRIGADIER GENERAL AND STEPFATHER WHOSE STEPSON WOULD DIE IN VIETNAM. THIS IS NEAT ONE. YOUR MOTHER, FATHER AND CONGRESSMAN SAM GIBBONS, 34 YEARS, D-DAY VETERANS, WORLD WAR II VETERAN. GREATEST AMERICAN HERO. YOUR FATHER AND GRANDPARENTS. DURING WORLD WAR II, CORRECT? >> 1942. >>LUIS VIERA: SO WOW, LOOK AT THAT. LOU PINIELLA. THIS IS NEAT. JUST SHOWING WHAT A MAN-ABOUT-TOWN HE WAS. MORE WITH JIMMY STEWART. YOU ALL KNOW ME, I LOVE JIMMY STEWART. THIS IS SOMEBODY THAT WE KNOW. AND THE LATE JUDGE ALVAREZ AND CHARLIE MIRANDA. OUR MAIN MAN. >> HELL OF A NIGHT. >>LUIS VIERA: WHAT A NIGHT. HERE. E.J. SALCINES. GOVERNOR MARTINEZ. MANY OTHERS. TONY GARCIA. THEN, THIS IS A GREAT ONE. LAST BUT NOT LEAST, MICKEY MANTLE. THAT IS KIND OF COOL. JUST SOME PICTURES AND EVERYTHING. SO IT IS -- YOU KNOW, IT IS AN HONOR TO DO THIS, TONY. YOU ARE SUCH A GREAT GUY. YOU ARE ALWAYS A GREAT PERSON. >> THANK YOU. LOVE YOU BUDDY. THANK YOU. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO AND THEN MIRANDA. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I NEVER MET YOUR FATHER BUT I ALWAYS HEARD ABOUT YOUR DAD. AND I WOULD SEE YOUR DAD AT EVENTS WHEN I WAS A KID. I WAS TOO SCARED TO APPROACH HIM. I REMEMBER WHEN I MET MAYOR GRECO 30 YEARS AGO AND THEY ARE MAN IN DONORING A~ GA. I HAVE A PICTURE WHERE MARY ALVAREZ FORMER CITY COUNCIL MEMBER. AND THE MAYOR. THE MAYOR. YOUR DAD WAS ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE. MY FRIEND DOMINICK WHO HAS BEEN AROUND FOR A WHILE, TOLD ME STORY ABOUT YOUR DAD. HE SAID GROWING UP IN TAMPA IN THE '80s AND THE '90s AND WHATEVER, IF YOU WANTED ANYTHING DONE IN HIS CIRCLE, HE SAID YOU WOULD GO THREE TIME. NARCELA MA SAY YO. VICTOR DEMAYO SR. AND TONY GARCIA. THAT'S IT, MOVERS AND SHAKERS OF THE TIME. I SAT WITH YOU MANY, MANY TIMES AND YOU TOLD ME STORIES. COOLEST STORY YOU TOLD ME, ONE OF MANY WAS, AND, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, SUPER BOWL 84 OR SUPER BOWL 1991. BOB HOPE CALLS YOUR DAD UP OR SHOWS UP TO THE HOUSE IN THE ROLLS-ROYCE AND SAY DO YOU WANT TO GO TO THE SUPER BOWL. PICKS UP YOUR DAD AND TAKES HIM TO TAMPA STADIUM. THIS IS BOB HOPE. GO TO THE SECURITY GATE AND THE SECURITY IS LIKE DO YOU HAVE A TICKET OR PASS. THE WINDOW ROLLS DOWN, MR. HOPE. COME ON, THE GATES GO UP AND THEY JUST WALK INTO IT, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN. AND BOB HOPE -- WE TALK OF JIMMY STEWART BEING ONE OF GREATEST AMERICANS AND GREATEST AMERICAN ACTORS, BOB HOPE WAS BOB HOPE. HE PASSED AWAY WHEN YOUR DAD DIED. 2003 AND 2004. BOB HOPE. AND MARTIN SHELBY WILL RECOGNIZE, THE FRIENDSHIP AN YOU SHOW ME STUFF. AND REGULAR ON THE ED SULLIVAN SHOW. THAT WORLD WAR II GENERATION, GREATEST GENERATION THAT WE WILL NEVER HAVE AGAIN. LIKE THAT WE ARE A OF MY GRANDPARENTS. LIKE TONY GARCIA, HIS PHOTO IS AT THE WALL AT THE WEST TAMPA SANDWICH SHOP. THAT A BIG DEAL. BUT GROWING UP, HE WAS ONE OF THE NAMES YOU ALWAYS HEARD. I REMEMBER OPENING LA GAYETA WHEN HE PASSED AWAY, I WAS IN COLLEGE, AND A WHOLE WRITE-UP LIKE VICTOR SENIOR A AND MARCELO MACEO, THE GIANTS OF TIME THAT MADE TAMPA, TAMPA THIS WAS A VERY STRONG TOKEN OF APPRECIATION FOR EVERYTHING. I LEARNED MORE TODAY WHAT HE DID WITH THE SOLDIERS IN THE USO AND WHAT NOT. I AM VERY EXCITED TO SUPPORT THIS. SO MORE PEOPLE CAN SEE YOUR DAD'S NAME AND ASK AND LEARN ABOUT HIM BECAUSE HE WAS, YOU KNOW, A GREAT MAN. SO I AM GOOD WITH THIS. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCIL MEMBER YOUNG, DO YOU KNOW WHO BOB HOPE IS? [LAUGHTER] OKAY. [LAUGHTER] >>BILL CARLSON: SHOULD HAVE SAID DO YOU KNOW WHO BOB HOPE WAS. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: DO YOU KNOW WHO ED SULLIVAN IS? [LAUGHTER] THAT IS SOMETHING -- >>BILL CARLSON: EVER HEARD OF BEATLES? CLENDENIN SELF-DEPRECIATING HUMOR. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THE REASON FOR THIS AND VERY SIMPLE IN MY MIND. WE WERE WHAT WE WERE BECAUSE THAT'S ALL WE HAD. NO CELL PHONES. NO TVS TO SPEAK OF. NO MASS COMMUNICATION AND EVERYBODY TALKED TO EACH OTHER. NOW YOU ARE USING THE ART OF TALKING TO EACH OTHER EYE TO EYE. ALL ON THE PHONE. YOU DIAL. YOU TALK TO SOMEBODY YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW. I DID AT LEAST 15 CALLS -- I BECHA OF SOMEBODY WE DON'T KNOW TRYING TO SELL US SOMETHING FOR ONE REASON OR THE OTHER. BRING YOUR CAR IN FOR SERVICE, WHATEVER IT IS. I WANT TO BUY YOUR LAND. I HAVE TWO THINGS I CAN SELL YOU AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF. IT IS WHAT IT IS. SOCIETY WE LIVE IN ARE CREATE OUR OWN PROBLEM WHERE WE DON'T KNOW TO WE ARE TALKING TO. IN THOSE DAYS YOU HAD TO BE WHO YOU HAD TO BE AND YOU HAD TO MAKE YOURSELF KNOWN BY TALKING ABOUT EVERYBODY AND YOUR FATHER DID THAT WITH 110%. SO IS MACCELO MACEO, AND ALL OF THEM. 100 OF THEM I CAN NAME YOU NOW. WE DID THIS BY COMMUNICATION, NOT BY PHONE BY GOING AND KNOCK ON DOORS AND TALKING TO EACH OTHER. THEY CALLED A MEETING EVERYBODY SHOWED UP. WHY? BECAUSE THEY HAVE NO OTHER PLACE TO GO. I WILL BE HONEST TO YOU. SOCIETY WILL HEADACHE THIS SOCIETY LOOK SICK. YOU KNOW WHY? BECAUSE THEY KNOW HOW TO COMMUNICATE. ALL WE KNOW HOW TO YOU DO IS TALK TO PEOPLE NOW THAT YOU DON'T KNOW BY PHONE, TEXT OR WHA WHATEVER. THERE WAS NO E-MAIL. THERE WAS NO COMPUTERIZED SYSTEM. NOT ANYTHING THAT YOU CAN BUY $100 WORTH OF THIS I THINK AND EVERYBODY KNOWS IN TEN MINUTE. HOW AI, PEOPLE WILL SPEAK TO EACH OTHER LESS AND LESS. ONE OF THE PROBLEMS WE HAVE. WE FORGOT TO SPEAK TO ONE ANOTHER. I GAR PLAN TEE YOU THAT 50% IN TAMPA DON'T KNOW THE NAME OF THE NEIGHBORS TO THE LEFT OR THE RIGHT. AND YOU GET 100% OF THEM ONLY COME IN AND GO RIGHT IN THE DOOR. BEFORE, THERE WAS NO RECOMMENDATION. NOTHING. YOU HAD TO STAY OUTSIDE. SO YOU GET TO MEET PEOPLE. YOU KNOW WHAT THEY DROVE AROUND KIDS. AND WHAT HAPPENS WITH SOCIETY, THEY CHANGE. YOU TALK OF MENTAL PROBLEMS, WE ARE CREATE OUR OWN PROBLEMS. ENVIRONMENTALLY, NOT SPEAKING TO EACH OTHER. COMING TO A HEAD. COMING IN AMERICA -- NOT ONLY IN AMERICA, BUT THE WHOLE WORLD. WORTH SO FAR ADVANCED WITH HE DON'T KNOW WHO WE ARE. YOUR FATHER WAS A LEADER OF KNOWING HOW TO COMMUNICATE AND WALK WITH PEOPLE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN CARLSON, YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING? >>BILL CARLSON: YES. THANK YOU FOR KEEPING YOUR DAD'S STORY AS I LIFE. UNFORTUNATELY, I AM NOT GOING TO BE ON COUNCIL ONE DAY WHEN WE NAME SOMETHING AFTER YOU, BUT THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU HAVE DONE. IT MAKES ME THINK -- ALL THESE STORIES. NOT JUST NOSTALGIA. IN THE '80s TAMPA IN SOME WAYS WERE AT ITS PEAK. MORE INTERNATIONAL FLIGHTS THAN WE DID AT LEAST BY 2010. BECAUSE WE LOST A BUNCH THEN. WE HAD ONE OF THE BEST AIRPORTS IN THE WORLD. WE HAD MORE INTERNATIONAL BANKS THAN WE DO NOW. AND TAMPA WAS SMALLER IN SIZE -- WE DIDN'T HAVE AS MANY BUILDINGS, BUT THE LEADERS IN TAMPA WERE IMPORTANT ON A NATIONAL AND INTERNATIONAL SCALE. AND THERE WAS A DIFFERENT STYLE LEADERSHIP BACK THEN. DIFFERENT EXPECTATIONS WHERE TAMPA WOULD GO. THE FACT THAT YOUR DAD WAS KNOWN BY SOME OF THE GREATEST STARS. TAMPA IS ALWAYS TRYING TO BE A BIG CITY, BUT WE REALLY WERE IN '80s. IN THE '80s WE WERE WELL KNOWN ALL OVER THE WORLD. YOUR DAD WAS ONE OF THOSE FOLKS. I WISH -- WE OUGHT TO HAVE COFFEE AND AT THAT BUCK IT. I WISH YOU AND THE OTHER KIDS OF GENERATION WILL GET TOGETHER AND WRITE A BOOK LIKE CHARLIE WAS KIND OF REFERRING TO, WHAT WAS LEADERSHIP STYLE BACK THEN? THEY WEREN'T LIMITED BY PEOPLE WERE SAYING NOT A GREAT CITY OR THIS AND THAT. THEY JUST DID IT. THE FACT THAT HE NEW BOB HOPE AND HE WENT OUT A MET PEOPLE. A LOT OF THEM DID. HUGE EXPECTATIONS FOR TAMPA, BIGGER THAN WE HAVE THEM NOW. I WISH THERE WAS SOME WAYS TO CAPTURE THAT BECAUSE THE ESSENCE OF TAMPA'S CULTURE, WHEN THE PHYSICAL ENVIRONMENT IS CHANGING AROUND US, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T LOSE TOUCH WITH THAT CULTURE. ANOTHER NOT -- EXAMPLE NOT FROM THE LATIN COMMUNITY BUT JERRY DIVERS, THE FOUNDER AND CEO OF ONE OF MOST BANKS IN TAMPA. WE HANDWRITE PERSONAL LETTY LETTERS TO PEOPLE AFTER HE MET THEM. HE HAD THIS DIAL OF LEADERSHIP AND MANAGEMENT THAT WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND. AND I THINK SOME OF THIS CULTURE EXISTS IN BACK ROOMS AND STILL FOLKS -- YOU KNOW, ANYWHERE E.J. GOES, FOR EXAMPLE. A LUNCH AND DINNER AND TEN PEOPLE AND SHARING STORIES. WE NEED TO CAPTURE THE STORY AND TEACH THE NEW GENERATION. SO MANY NEW KIDS. MY KIDS WERE BORN HERE BUT NOT HE CAN POSED TO THAT CULTURE. HOW DO WE PASS ON HOW GREAT TAMPA WAS AND THE LEADERSHIP STYLE BEFORE AND HOW CAN THAT LEAD US INTO THE FUTURE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN. COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUPLE OF THINGS I FORGOVERNMENT. WELL, FIRST, I HUNG OUT A LOT WITH MY GRANDMOTHER, THEIR WORLD WAR II GENERATION AND YOUR DAD'S GENERATION. A LOT OF WHAT I LEARN AND THE PERSON I AM TODAY IS BECAUSE OF THAT GENERATION. AS YOU NOTICE I AM WEARING THIS BEAUTIFUL FLAG PIN. THE BEAUTIFUL CITY OF TAMPA FLAG. I WEAR DIFFERENT PINS AND DIFFERENT CUFFLINKS. I AM NOT WEARING CUFFLINKS TODAY, BUT A PAIR OF CITY OF TAMPA SEAL. WERE THEY YOU OR MY DAD'S. >> MY DAD'S. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHEN I WEAR THEM. I AM NOT WEARING THEM TODAY, BUT A LITTLE PIECE OF YOUR DAD IS HERE. PEOPLE LOVE CUFFLINGS. I THINK I HAVE A TIE BAR. OTHER CITY OF TAMPA SEAL ITEMS. BUT THEY ARE EVEN MORE SPECIAL, NOT BECAUSE I LOVE THIS CITY BUT IT BELONGED TO YOUR DAD AND YOUR DAD DEDICATED HAD IS WHOLE LIFE TO -- THE STORY OF YOUR FATHER IS HELPING OTHER PEOPLE. >> A POINT, IF I MAY INTERJECT, AND I APPRECIATE ALL YOUR COMMENTS MY FATHER WAS BORN IN WEST TAMPA ON ARMENIA. HE WAS A CHILD OF WEST TAMPA. HE WAS A CHILD OF THE DEPRESSION. AND HIS FAMILY WAS VERY POOR. MY GRAND MOTHER WAS FROM KEY WEST. AND MY GRANDFATHER MIGRATED FROM CUBA AND MET HER THERE AND MOVED HERE BECAUSE HE WAS A TOBACCO MAKER SO THIS IS WHERE THE LIVING WAS. IT'S KIND OF IRONIC WHEN THEY ASK ME OF THE LOCATION OF WHERE THEY WANT TO PUT THIS STREET NAMING. THE CENTRO -- MY DAD TOLD ME A STORY WHEN HE WAS A LITTLE BOY, WE GO -- YOU COULD GO A NICKEL AND SPEND THE DAY, YOU KNOW, WATCHING MOVIES AND GETTING POPCORN AND STUFF AT THE CENTRO BECAUSE A THEATRE AT THE TIME. AND HE TOLD ME A STORY A MAN -- HE WAS STANDING OUTSIDE. HE DIDN'T HAVE ANY MONEY TO GO IN THERE. IT WAS POOR. WOULD HEAT HARD CUBAN BREAD AND COLD CUBAN COFFEE AT TIMES. HE TOLD ME THIS STORY. BUT THIS MAN -- WELL-TO-DO MAN, HE SAID DISH SAW MY DAD AND HE IS LIKE -- HE GAVE MY DAD A QUARTER AND SAID GO IN AND HAVE A GREAT TIME. SO HE TOOK THE QUARTER, AND HE WAITED UNTIL THE MAN LEFT, AND THEN HE RAN HOME WHICH WAS ABOUT EIGHT BLOCKS TO THE SOUTH OF TH THERE. BECAUSE HE WANTED TO GIVE THE QUARTER TO HIS FAMILY, BECAUSE HE KNEW THEY NEED IT MORE THAN HE NEED IT TO SPEND IT AT THE THEATRE THAT DAY. THAT IS WHAT IT WAS LIKE BACK IN THE DAY. HE NEVER FORGOT THAT. HE NEVER FORGOT THE POVERTY ASPECT OF IT. FOR HIM AND HIS BROTHERS AND SISTER TO RISE OUT OF THAT TO BECOME THE MAN THAT HE DID IS REALLY THE TRUE AMERICAN STORY AND I NEVER CEASED TO HEAR THINGS THAT HAPPENED. YOU MENTION MARCELO MACEO. HE AND MY DAD WERE GOOD FRIENDS. PETITION PLAYED BASEBALL TOGETHER IN CASCADIAN PARK. THEY WERE BOTH VERY GOOD BASEBALL PLAYERS AND ROSE IN THE RANKS IN THE EXECUTIVE FEE TEAS. THEN FIESTA. THEY WERE TOGETHER ON THE BOARD THERE. AND THE DeMAYOS. AND I DO -- BILL, I DO KEEP TRACK OF THE CHILDREN OF THOSE TWO PEOPLE THAT I MENTIONED, FAR IN LINE, MARLENE MACEO A AND VIC DeMAYO JR. THAT I WENT TO HIGH SCHOOL WITH. YOU KEEP IN TOUCH WITH THOSE PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY ARE JUST THEY ARE JUST EXTENSIONS OF OUR FATHERS. ONE MORE THING, SHIRLEY WAS ACTUALLY THERE THE DAY THEY DEDICATED THE CENTRO ESPANOL. SO SHE REMEMBERS DAD. BECAUSE DAD WAS ON THE URBAN LEAGUE. AND THAT'S WHEN YOU WERE THERE. THAT PREDATES EVEN COMING HERE. SHE KNEW DAD TOO. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: VERY GOOD. THANK YOU, TONY, FOR COMING OUT. >> THANK YOU. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU NEED FROM US TODAY. A PRESENTATION. >> IF YOU CHOOSE TO MOVE FORWARD, THIS. WE WILL BE POSTING DATES BUT WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU DID -- >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE DON'T KNOW A MOTION. DO WE NEED A MOTION FOR YOU TODAY? TO MOVE FORWARD? >> YES, I THOUGHT SO. >> MARCH 26 OR AFTER. >>LUIS VIERA: IF I -- MAY I. I MOTION FOR THIS ITEM TO COME BACK TO US ON MARCH 26 FOR TONY GARCIA, JR. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA. SECONDED FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. OPPOSED. AYES HAVE IT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> POSTED FOR PUBLIC COMMENT JANUARY 23 THROUGH MONDAY FEBRUARY 9. >>LYNN HURTAK: WHERE CAN PEOPLE GO? >> ON THE CITY OF TAMPA'S REAL ESTATE PAGE. FIND A LINK FOR HONORARY NAMING. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU FOR THE MEMORIES. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT WAS VERY INFORMATIVE. I WISH I WOULD HAVE KNOWN YOUR FATHER. THAT CONCLUDES OUR REGULARLY SCHEDULED PROGRAM. WE COMPLETED OUR AGENDA. WELL, WE HAVE NEW BUSINESS. YEP. SO NEW BUSINESS. START FROM LEFT TO RIGHT. COUNCILMAN CARLSON. >>BILL CARLSON: I WILL TRY TO KEEP THIS SHORT BUT IN THE LAST CITY COUNCIL MEET TWO WEEKS AGO, REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEET TWO WEEKS AGO, WE TALKED OF THE SOUTH HOWARD PROJECT. AND WE ASKED STAFF A BUNCH OF QUESTIONS ABOUT IT. AND THEY GAVE VERY DIRECT ANSWERS. ABOUT FOUR OR FIVE DAYS LATER -- ESSENCE FOR ME WAS WE HEARD FROM THEM. PALMA CEIA PINES WILL NOT BE ADDRESSED UNTIL 2032 OR 2033. A FEW DAYS LATER, THE -- THE CONSULTANT THAT IS WORKING ON THE PROJECT MET WITH A SMALL GROUP IN PARKLAND ESTATES AND PRESENTED SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE HAD BEEN PRESENTED. AND THEN A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO, A SMALL GROUP OF THE MAYOR'S STAFF -- HEARD EVEN THE MAYOR, I DON'T KNOW FOR SURE, MEANT WITH A SMALL GROUP IN PALMA CEIA PINES THEN THE PEOPLE WHO WERE INVITED MAJORITY OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS -- THE MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE WHO WERE NOT INVITED WHICH IS MOST OF THE PEOPLE IN BOTH NEIGHBORHOODS STARTED ASKING QUESTIONS. JOSH CASCIO POSSIBLIED AND NEXT DOOR THERE WILL BE A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE PROJECT TO FULLY VET IT FEBRUARY 29 AT 9 A.M. THAT ITEM IS NOT ON AGENDA FOR JANUARY 29. WHAT IS ON AGENDA IS A DISCUSSION OF THE CIP UPDATE AND THEY USUALLY PRESENT GREAT 8. I THINK THAT HAVING A BIG DISCUSSION OF THAT PROJECT ON THAT DAY WITH A FULL AGENDA IS NOT GOING TO BE FAIR TO THE PEOPLE INVOLVED, BUT ALSO BECAUSE IT IS NOT A SEPARATE AGENDA ITEM IT IS NOT FAIR TO THE PUBLIC -- THE BROADER PUBLIC. SINCE THE MAYOR AND THOSE STROKES MET WITH THOSE TWO NEIGHBORS. FLOODED WITH E-MAIL. AND ALSO A VIDEO. I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH IT COST. BUT A CAMPAIGN GOING TO SELL US ON THIS PROJECT. WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS STEP BACK AND HAVE A ROBUST, HONEST CONVERSATION WITH THE PUBLIC. FACT THAT THE INFORMATION WAS PRESENTED TO US IS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WAS PRESENT TO SMALL GROUPS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS DISTURBING TO ME. I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A LARGER WORKSHOP TO TALK ABOUT THAT. LOOKS LIKE THE SOONEST ON A WORKSHOP IS MARCH -- THE MARCH WORKSHOP. WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND WE PUT THIS AS A STAND-ALONE ITEM ON MARCH WORKSHOP. LET STAFF AND CONSULTANTS PRESENT WHATEVER THEY WANT AND THAT WAY WE ARE NOT GOING TO BE RUSHED. AND NOT A FULL AGENDA AND ADVERTISED AS A SEPARATE DISCUSSION. MY MOTION WOULD BE TO -- TO REMOVE THE SOUTH HOWARD PROJECT FROM THE GREAT 8 DISCUSSION ON JANUARY 29, AND INSTEAD HAVE A FULL PRESENTATION AGENDA ITEM IN THE MARCH WORKSHOP ON THE SOUTH HOW FAR WARD PROJECT. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MR. SHELBY. >>MARTIN SHELBY: RECHECK THE DATE FOR THEIR. >>LYNN HURTAK: NOT THE 29th, 26. >>MARTIN SHELBY: REGULAR SESSION OF CITY COUNCIL. >>LYNN HURTAK: NO A WORKSHOP. I WILL SPEAK TO BE THAT, MR. SHELBY, IF YOU LIKE ME. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >>LYNN HURTAK: FEBRUARY 26 -- SORRY, I WAS LOOKING AT FEBRUARY WITH JANUARY 29. WE ALREADY ONLY HAVE FIVE ITEMS BUT I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU, MAYBE YOU HAVEN'T GOTTEN THE BRIEFING, BUT I GOT A BRIEFING THAT SAID THAT IS WHAT THEY ARE PLANNING TO DO IS INSTEAD OF THE GREAT 8, THEY WILL FOCUS ON THIS ONE ITEM. AND THAT THEY ARE CHANGING THE TITLE IN THE -- IN THE DESCRIPTION. AND -- OR -- SO, YEAH, THAT'S -- THAT IS APPARENTLY OUR CHAIR HAS A MOTION TO DO JUST THAT. AND WE ACTUALLY HAVE ROOM ON THIS AGENDA TO TALK ABOUT IT. I DON'T WANT TO CONTINUE THIS, BECAUSE ULTIMATELY, WE CAN'T JUST KEEP KICKING IT DOWN THE ROAD. I KNOW WE NEED TO HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT IT I THINK INCOMES WEEK ON JANUARY 29 IS TIME TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION. >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I RESPOND TO IS THAT? >>LYNN HURTAK: YEAH, I AM NOT FOLLOWING GO FORWARD TO FEBRUARY OR MARCH, BECAUSE WE HAVE GOT TO GET THIS -- WE JUST NEED TO HEAR IT. WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT IT. WE NEED TO -- >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HOLD ON. WE WILL DO ROUNDS AND YOU GO NEXT. MURPHY HURTAK I DON'T SUPPORT MOVING IT. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AM ONLY SAYING THAT WATER DOES NOT FLOW NORTH. IT ONLY FLOWS SOUTH. AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT, IF THIS HERE AND YOU HAVE OF THE PINES HERE AND THIS NEIGHBORHOOD HERE. THIS NEIGHBORHOOD FLOODS FIRST AND COMES DOWN. THIS WILL TAKE CARE OF THIS WATER AND THAT WATER BECAUSE FLOW SOUTH. I CAN'T GUARANTEE YOU THAT WILL BE 100% FIXABLE, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS COMING IN FIVE YEARS OR TEN DAYS OR TWO YEARS FROM NOW. IF THE HURRICANE SIFTS OUT THER FOR FOUR DAYS, NOTHING WORKS. THAT FIXES THAT. IT WILL NOT WORK TO DO WHAT IT DID TO NEW ORLEANS AND OTHER CITIES AROUND THE COUNTRY. I AM NOT HERE TO SAY THAT ONE WHAT I OR THE OTHER. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ADMINISTRATION DID FOR DO I CARE WHAT THEY HAVE DONE. I ONLY CARE WHAT I HAVE SEEN WITH MY EYES AND WALKING THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOODS ABOUT GETTING THINGS DONE. AND I AM LIKE COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. IT HAS GOT TO END SOME TIME BEFORE HURRICANE SEASON STARTS. SO WE CAN START DOING SOMETHING TO ALLEVIATE NOT ONLY HERE BUT OTHER PROJECTS WILL COME THE SAME WAY. ANYWHERE YOU GO WITH THE PROJECT YOU WILL HAVE PROBLEMS BECAUSE ONE SIDE OR OTHER SIDE. IT WILL SOLVE SOMETHING. SOMETHING ELSE SOMEWHERE ELSE SAY WHAT ABOUT ME. AND IT IS WHAT IT IS. AND I AM -- TIME TRYING TO SOLVE A PROBLEM AS SOON AS POSSIBLE SO HE CAN AVOID A PROBLEM LATER ON IN HALF. WHAT I AM HEARING NOW DOESN'T MATTER. NOT THAT I AM GOING ANYWHERE. LET ME FIX THAT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU ARE EVENTUALLY GOING TO GO SOMEWHERE. I HOPE YOU HAVE AN AIR CONDITIONER. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I DO HAVE AN AIR CONDITIONER. I CAN TAKE HEAT. I CAN TAKE HEAT. WHAT I AM SAYING IS, IT HAS GOT TO END SOME TIME. I DON'T KNOW WHAT ADMINISTRATION. I DON'T KNOW WHO THEY TALKED TO OR KNOW ANYTHING. ALL I KNOW WHAT WE VOTED ON. YOU CAN CHANGE THE VOTE IF YOU LIKE DOESN'T BOTHER ME ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. BUT IT IS WHAT IT IS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA. >>LUIS VIERA: WHEN IT COMES TO MOVING IT OUT OF GREAT EIGHT AND WHATEVER THAT ISSUE THAT IS, THAT IS ONE THING. IF COUNCILMAN CARLSON, IF YOU WANT TO DO -- HAVE IT UNDER A WORKSHOP. I AM GLAD TO SUPPORT THEIR TO HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSION. YOU ARE OBVIOUSLY VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT IT. YOU OUGHT TO BE GIVEN SPACE FOR THAT AND TIME AND ALL THAT. I DON'T SEE A CHALLENGE WITH THAT. MY ONLY SUGGESTION WITH THE WORKSHOP WE LIMIT TIME ON IT BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO BE HERE FOR -- OBVIOUSLY GIVEN GR GREAT DEFERENCE FOR THE ISSUE AND SO FORTH FOR AN UNLIAM OF TIME. A FLAT WORKSHOP WE SHOULD TALK ABOUT THIS NOT TO SLOW THIS DOWN. BUT FURTHER CONSIDERATION. >> I DON'T SEE ANY PROBLEMS WITH THAT. BUT IT SHOULDN'T BE AT THE EXPENSE OF PRECEDENCE WE SET AGENDA ITEM. I THINK THAT IS A GOOD COMPROMISE IN MY OPINION. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WILL SPEAK AND THEN LET YOU GO. TWO THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING. I GOT THAT BRIEFING AS WELL. AND IF THIS MOTION FAILS, I AM GOING TO MAKE A MOTION TO RENAME THAT WORKSHOP AGENDA THAT IS ON THE JANUARY 29 FROM THE BIANNUAL CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT TO SOUTH HOWARD FLOOD PRESENTATION AND BIANNUAL AND PROVIDES CLARITY FOR PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND. RIGHT NOW IT IS NOT CLEAR IT IS SOUTH HOWARD. THAT IS ONE AND THAT EVENING SESSION, WE WILL BE TALKING ABOUT THAT DURING THE WORKSHOP. THAT EVENING SESSION IS RELATIVELY OPEN. THREE AB CASES AND A COUPLE OF COMP PLAN APPLICATION AND ONE OF THEM MAY BE CONTINUED. IS TO MOVE THE REAPPORTIONMENT OF THE CAPITAL TO THAT EVENING SO WE WILL HAVE -- IT WILL BASICALLY BE A DAY OF SOUTH HOWARD. WORKSHOP DURING THE DAY ON THE 29th AND AFTERNOON AND EVENING SESSION. IF THIS MOTION FAILS, THAT WILL BE THE PLAN OF ACTION. COUNCILMAN CARLSON. >>BILL CARLSON: YEAH, FIRST OF ALL, STAFF HAS NOT NOTIFIED ME AT ALL AND NOT SEPTEMBER UP A MEETING. I PRESUME THAT -- THAT HI DON'T APPROVE -- THAT YOU DON'T APPROVE OF THIS PROJECT AS IS. AND THIS IS THE PROBLEM WITH IT. THE CITY HAS TO HAVE THE HONEST DIALOGUE WITH THE PUBLIC. NOT CHERRY PICK -- IF YOU MISS WITH 20 PEOPLE, TEN IN EACH NEIGHBORHOOD, IT IS OBVIOUSLY A POLITICAL PLY. NOT PUBLIC INFORMATION. YOU NEED TO ROBUSTLY TALK TO THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND BE HONEST WITH THEM. FACT THAT JUST FOUR DAYS BEFORE THE STAFF ANSWERED QUESTIONS THAT ARE COMPLETELY OPPOSITE FROM WHAT THEY ARE PREN NOW PRIVATELY. I CLEARLY ASKED THE QUESTION, WHEN IS THE FIRST TIME THAT PARKLAND ESTATES WILL BE PROTECTED? AND IT IS 2030. I DON'T THINK THAT NUMBER HAS CHANGED. BUT THEN THEY -- PALM MA SEE YA PINES IN PHASE TWO THAT WON'T BE COMPLETED SINCE 207 3. AND SINCE THAT MEET THEY CHANGED THE MAP AND CREATE A VIDEO OF. PROBLEMS NOT AN HONEST WAY TO DEAL WITH THE PUBLIC. IS TELLING PEOPLE ON THE 29th AND PEOPLE GO TO THE CALENDAR AND LOOK AND IT IS NOT ON THERE. I DID NOT KNOW UNTIL COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK SAID THAT THE STAFF IS PLANNING TO CHANGE THE NAME. BUT THE PUBLIC DOESN'T KNOW EITHER. BETTER THING WOULD BE FOR THE CITY TO IDEALLY HAVE AN HONEST DIALOGUE WITH THE PUBLIC. GO MEET WITH PARKLAND ESTATES. NOT JUST TEN PEOPLE BUT THE WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD AND MEET WITH THE PEOPLE OF PALMA CEIA PINES. NOT SOMETHING WE NEED TO SELL THE PUBLIC BUT SOMETHING WE NEED TO HAVE THE DIALOGUE ABOUT. POINT I SAID LAST TIME THAT CHARLIE MINUTED THAT THE WATER FLOWS SOUTH. PALMA CEIA PINES THAT THIS A BOWL. YOU DON'T NEED ONE PIPE. BUT PUT IT IN WHERE IS FLOOD. WHAT HAPPENS IN PALM MA SEE YA PINES IS IT IS OVERFLOWING. AND THE CHALLENGE THAT THE CONSULTANT HAS NOT BEEN GIVEN THE AUTHORITY FOR A ROBUST DECISION IN PALMA CEIA PINES. IF YOU CREATE A SOLUTION IT PROTECTS PARKLAND ESTATES. CONSPIRACY THEORIES BEING PUSHED. I DON'T KNOW IF THE ADMINISTRATION. YOU LIKE STEAK. YOU LIKE BERN'S BET. MY THING IS THIS IS IT MY DISTRICT. I WANT PEOPLE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD TO BE PROTECTED. IF WE -- IF WE ENDS UP OF -- END UP GOING FORWARD. SO MUCH MISINFORMATION GIVEN TO THESE FOLKS. ON KNIGHTS AVENUE, THERE ARE FIVE HOUSES. IN 1988, THE CITY OF SAID THEY COULDN'T BUILD BALLS WAS IN A RETENTION POND AND. BUILDING IN A LOW LEVEL AREA. IF WE MOVE FORWARD, THIS PROJECT WOULDN'T DESIGNING IT TO OPTIMALLY PREVENT FLOODING, I THINK WHAT THEY NEED TO DO IS GET EVERYBODY IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD TO SIGN AFFIDAVITS SAYING THEY UNDER STAND THEY WILL NOT BE PROTECTED UNTIL AT LEAST 20s 3-- LEAST 2030. I WON'T BE HERE ON CITY COUNCIL. BUT YOU GUYS WILL GET COMPLAINTS THIS CITY COUNCIL'S FAULT YOU DIDN'T PREVENT OUR FLOODING. WE KNOW IT WON'T PROTECT THEM UNTIL 2030. WHY WOULDN'T WE COME UP WITH OTHER SOLUTIONS. UNFORTUNATELY THIS THING HAS BEEN POLICE DEPARTICIZED. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CAN WE FOCUS BACK DOWN -- YOUR MOTION WAS TO MOVE -- >>BILL CARLSON: MY POINT UNTIL RIGHT NOW I DIDN'T KNOW THEY WERE GOING TO CHANGE THE NAME. PUBLIC DIDN'T KNOW THAT. NOT ENOUGH NOTICE FOR THE PUBLIC. I DON'T CARE IF WE DO IT FEBRUARY AND MARCH. PUBLIC NEEDS TO IT BE NOTICED AND NOT A SALES JOB -- >>ALAN CLENDENIN: TWO SEPARATE ISSUES. ONE THING -- TWO ISSUES HERE. ONE ISSUE OF THE 29th WORKSHOP IS PUBLIC NOTICE. >>BILL CARLSON: AS OF RIGHT NOW THE GREAT EIGHT. WHAT YOU SUGGESTED KEEPING GREAT EIGHT, BUT ALSO CALLING IT SOUTH HOWARD. HAVING ALL OF THOSE DISCUSSIONS ON THE SAME DAY WILL HAVE OF A LONG TIME. I AM TALKING OF MOVING TO THE DAY WE HAVE LESS. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. >>LYNN HURTAK: FROM MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE REST OF THE GREAT EIGHT WILL BE A WRITTEN REPORT AND IF WE HAVE QUESTIONS, WE ARE ALLOWED TO REACH OUT AND ASK ABOUT THEM. SO THAT'S WHAT WE ARE DOING. THEY ARE JUST REPORTING TO US. THIS IS GOING TO BE SOMETHING FOR US. THE PUBLIC CAN ASK QUESTIONS, BUT I WOULD AGREE YOU WITH THAT WE NEED TO HAVE ROBUST PUBLIC INFORMATION. AFTER THEY HAVE REPORT TO US, THEN WE MEET WITH THE PUBLIC AND HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY OF UNDERSTANDING AND ABLE TO ASK QUESTIONS FOR THE PUBLIC. PUBLIC COULD WATCH. A GOOD COMPROMISE WILL BE TO HAVE THIS NEXT WEEK. MAKE SURE -- IT IS GOING TO BE TELEVISED, BUT MAKE SURE THAT -- THAT IT GETS EDITED DOWN JUST-TO-THIS PART. SENT OUT TO THE PEOPLE IN THOSE AREAS IN PREPARATION FOR ANOTHER MEETING. HOPEFULLY WHAT I CAN DO BY NEXT WEEK SEE IF WE CAN GET A DATE SET THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY GO OUT TO THE PUBLIC TO DIFFERENT PLACES, MAYBE AT LEAST TWO DIFFERENT MEETINGS SO WE CAN DO THIS. AND THE THING IS, IF WE DON'T DO SOMETHING, THEN IT WILL BE 2031 BEFORE THESE NEIGHBORHOOD ARE HELPED AND LAST YEAR IT WOULD HAVE BEEN 2029. I PERSONALLY CAN'T LET IT GO ANY FURTHER. I CAN'T CONTINUE TO LISTEN TO PEOPLE'S HEARTBREAK AND HAVE THEM CONTINUE TO -- TO -- TO DISCUSS THEIR TRAUMA OVER AND OVER AGAIN. BY DON'T THINK THAT IS FAIR TO PEOPLE. WE NEED TO MAKE -- I -- I THINK WE ARE READY TO LISTEN TO WHAT IS COMING FORWARD. WE HAVE TO MAKE THE HARD DECISIONS. I AM NOT WILLING TO KICK IT DOWN THE ROAD ANY LONGER. >>BILL CARLSON: THE NEXT BIG DECISION POINT WE HAVE IS SEPTEMBER. AND SON WE-- SO WITHER NOT DELAYING IT AT ALL BY PUTTING IT IN MARCH. >>LYNN HURTAK: THIS IS PART OF GREAT EIGHT. WE ARE GETTING A DESCRIPTION ABOUT THIS. WE ARE GETTING AN UPDATE. WE ARE TALKING OF MOVING MONEY THAT WE HAVE -- THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE TO USE. AND THAT IS JUST SITTING THERE THAT WE NEED TO MOVE AND A GREAT PROJECT TO MOVE IT TO. IF WE DON'T AUTO US IT FOR THIS PROJECT. IF THE PROJECT GETS CANCELLED, WE CAN MOVE THE PROJECT AGAIN. I AM JUST SAYING THAT NEXT WEEK IS -- WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT AND THEN DO PUBLIC MEETINGS. I -- I WANT TO HEAR ABOUT THIS PROJECT. YOU WANT TO HEAR IT. I AM INTERESTED IN HEARING IT. I DON'T WANT TO WAIT ANY LONGER. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND TO THAT HEARING. >>LYNN HURTAK: HAS A MOTION ON THE FLOOR WITH THE SECOND. >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I SAY ONE LAST THING. THE DAY OF THE STORM, I WAS THE FIRST PERSON FROM THE CITY TO DRIVE INTO PALMA CEIA PINES AND. MOST OF THE PEOPLE YOU SEE HERE, I WALKED IN THEIR HOUSES, TWO OF THEM GOT IN MY CAR AND DROVE ME AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND SHOWED ME THE LACK OF MAINTENANCE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SINCE THEN LOOKING AT DOCUMENTS GOING BACK TO THE 1980s AND THE CITY SHOULD NEVER HAVE LET THOSE HOUSES BE BUILT. NOT THAT FLOOD ZONE X, BUT THEY ARE THE BOTTOM OF THE BOWL AND THE CITY SHOULD HAVE PUNT A RETENSION POND THERE. TWO WEEKS AGO, THE CITY SAID WE ARE NOT DOING IN PALMA CEIA PINES UNTIL AFTER 2030. WHAT THEY ARE TELLING PEOPLE NOW, PUT A PIPE INSIDE ONE OF THE RETENTION POND. RETENTION POND IS ABOVE THE GRADE. PROBLEM SUSPECT INFORMATION SOMETHING OF CHANGING ALL THE TIME. AND THERE ARE POLITICS THAT THE ADMINISTRATION IS MAKING THIS IS A POLITICAL THING. A GUY IN PARKLAND ESTATES WHO IS MAKING THIS POLITICAL. 00 IS BE POLITICAL AND BASED ON SCIENCE. >>LYNN HURTAK: WHAT I WOULD ARGUE IS THAT THEY HEARD YOU SO YOU THEY DECIDED TO ADD A PIPE TO HELP. I DON'T -- I DON'T THINK IT IS -- IT IS -- >>BILL CARLSON: I DON'T THINK THAT IS WHAT THEY ARE TELLING PEOPLE. >>LYNN HURTAK: DOLLARS AWAY WE ARE SEEING ANYWAY. I APOLOGIZE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA. >>LUIS VIERA: JUST BRIEFLY, COUNCILMAN CARLSON, IF YOU WERE TO IN ADDITION TO THAT ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION IN MARCH, I WILL BE GLAD TO SECOND THAT. I DON'T WANT TO HAVE THAT REPLACEMENT OF THIS. YOU FEEL PASSION NANT AND WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT. AS LONG AS THERE IS A MODERATE TIME LIMITATION. I AM FINE WITH THAT. IN VOTING AGAINST THIS, ANOTHER PATHWAY THAT I THINK GIVES YOU A LOT FOR WHAT YOU WANT FOR THIS IN MY OPINION. I WILL THROW THAT OUT AS A BRIDGE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU HAD A MOTION MOTION PUSHGZ /* /* A MOTION AND A SECOND. >>BILL CARLSON: TO TAKE IT OUT OF THE GREAT EIGHT, BECAUSE UNTIL NOW, I HAD NO IDEA THEY WERE GOING TO TRY TO CHANGE THE NAME OF IT. PUBLIC DIDN'T HAVE AN IDEA. WE WERE GOING TO MOVE IT TO THE MARCH WORKSHOP. >>LYNN HURTAK: WE DON'T HAVE MARCH WORKSHOP. >>BILL CARLSON: TWO OR THREE THINGS I AM WILLING TO MOVE TO MAYBE IT FOR THE FEBRUARY WORKSHOP. >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY. SO THERE IS A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON. A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO. YOU RECOGNIZE CHAIR CLENDENIN. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IN AN EFFORT TO FIT WHAT HIGH TEMPERATURE TRYING TO DO. COUNCILMAN CARLSON, WILL YOU ACCEPT A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT TO KEEP THIS ON THE JANUARY 29 WORKSHOP IN LIGHT OF COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK SAID THAT ONLY THE GREAT EIGHT ISSUES WILL BE SUBMITTED VIA A WRITTEN REPORT AND WE WILL ONLY DISCUSS THE SOUTH HOWARD FLOOD PROJECT SO IT HAS THAT DEDICATED TIME ON THE 279th. >>BILL CARLSON: FIRST OF ALL, THE GREAT EIGHT WAS AN INVENTION BY ITS CITY STAFF. MORE CIP PROJECTS. AND SHORT-CHANGING THE OTHER SEVEN BY NOT DISCUSSING THEM AND PLUS ALL THE ONES NOT ON THE GREAT EIGHT. WE NEED TO HAVE PUBLIC INSIGHT IN THESE PROJECTS. I MEAN, I THINK IT IS TOO SHORT OF NOTICE. WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES A MONTH MAKE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT MEETING IS ALREADY INSPECTED. EVERYBODY -- I WATCHED NEXT DOOR. WATCH FACEBOOK. EVERYBODY KNOWS WE ARE TALKING OF SOUTH HOWARD. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT'S HOW I LEARNED ABOUT IT. >>BILL CARLSON: THE COMMUNICATION PERSON WENT IN THERE. NOT A BROAD NOTICE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WILL NOT SUPPORT YOUR AMENDMENT. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. LET'S DO A ROLL CALL. RESTATE THE MOTION, PLEASE. >>CLERK: TO REMOVE THE SOUTH HOWARD PROJECT FROM THE GREAT EIGHT ISSUE THAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE HEARD ON JANUARY 29. AND SCHEDULE IT FOR THE FEBRUARY WORKSHOP. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WAIT UNTIL WE HAVE A FULL COUNCIL. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: PAUSE FOR A SECOND. [HUMMING JEOPARDY THEME] >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: DON'T SING. YOU ARE HURTING MY EARS. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ♪ HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU ♪ ♪ HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU ♪ ♪ HAPPY BIRTHDAY COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA TOMORROW ♪ ♪ HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU ♪ >>LYNN HURTAK: SORRY. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT'S OKAY. WE PAUSED FOR YOU. WE HAVE A MOTION AND STANDS. COUNCILMAN CARLSON'S UNAMENDED MOTION. A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO. ROLL CALL. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES. >>LYNN HURTAK: NO. >>NAYA YOUNG: I AM SORRY. I AM A LITTLE BIT LOST. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: TO MOVE THE WORKSHOP A YES VOTE. TO CONTINUE IT ON THE 29th WAS A NO VOTE. >>BILL CARLSON: TO FEBRUARY. >>LYNN HURTAK: IF YOU KEEP IT THE WAY IT IS, VOTE NO. IF YOU WANT TO CHANGE IT, VOTE YES. >>NAYA YOUNG: I WOULD WANT TOO TALK ABOUT THIS ON THE 29th. >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT WILL BE A NO. >>NAYA YOUNG: OKAY, NO. >>LUIS VIERA: NO WITH THE ALTERNATE PROPOSED. >>BILL CARLSON: YES. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AM FOR LEAVING IT THE WAY IT IS. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT'S A NO. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NO. >>CLERK: MOTION FAILED WITH HURTAK, YOUNG, VIERA, MIRANDA AN CLENDENIN VOTE NOTHING. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN CARLSON, ANY NEW BUSINESS? >>BILL CARLSON: NO, NEXT WEEK WHEN IT COMES UP, I AM GOING TO SUGGEST THAT THE STAFF CREATE A WAIVER FOR THE NEIGHBORS WHO FLOODED, THE 20 OR 30 PEOPLE WHO FLOODED.NOT 200 OR 300 DESPITE WHAT SOME PEOPLE ARE SAYING. THE ONES THAT FLOODED BECAUSE OF THIS PROBLEM, THEY -- THEY SHOULD -- THEY NEED TO BE GIVEN A WAIVER TO SAY THEY ARE IN FAVOR OF THIS. AND THEY CLEARLY UNDERSTAND THAT IT IS NOT GOING TO PROTECT THEM UNTIL 2030 AND THEREAFTER. BECAUSE -- BECAUSE WHAT -- I WON'T BE HERE, BUT YOU GUY ARE GOING TO GET COMPLAINTS. BECAUSE WE KNOW IT IS -- AT MAXIMUM, ONLY HELP IN FOUR INCHES OF RAIN AND MILTON 11 AND A HALF. THOSE HOUSE ALSO FLOOD FOR THE NEXT FOUR YEARS. WE ALREADY HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA. >>MARTIN SHELBY: SORRY, MR. CHAIRMAN. COUNCILMAN CARLSON, ANYTHING ADDITIONAL UNDER NEW BUSINESS, A FORM 8-B, PERHAPS? [LAUGHTER] >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COULD YOU HAVE COME OUT AND ASKED HIM THAT. >>BILL CARLSON: SO I EARLIER RECUSED MYSELF ON AN ITEM. AND -- I DON'T KNOW WHAT ITEM IT WAS, ALTHOUGH THE COMPANY BY WHOM I RETAIN IS NOT WORK ON THIS MATTER, A CLIENT OF THE COMPANY MAY BENEFIT AND ABSTAINING TO AVOID A APPEARANCE OF A CONFLICT. MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FEEL. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA. >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR. A COUPLE OF MOTIONS, IF I MAY. NUMBER ONE, I WAS HAVING A CONVERSATION WITH SOME FOLKS. AND I WANT TO GET AN UPDATE A STAFF IN PERSON UPDATE. I MAY CHANGE IT TO WRITTEN IF I FIND TO UP THE SOMETHING OTHERWISE. MANY YEARS AGO THE CITY OF TAMPA STARTED AUTISM-SENSITIVE FRIENDLY TRAINING PROGRAM FOR TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT AND TAMPA FIRE RESCUE. AND I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE AN UPDATE WHAT KIND OF TRAINING AT TPD AND TFR FOR OUR FIRST RESPONDER ON APRIL 2. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA. SECONDED FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. OPPOSED. >>LUIS VIERA: MANY KNOW THE ORGANIZATION GRAY BOWL RESCUE. THEY WERE VERY HELPFUL WITH HURRICANE RECOVERY. I WAS OUT WITH THEM WITH STEVE MICHELINI'S DAUGHTER, FRANCESCA. THEY DO A LOT OF GREAT WORK. THOEMD GET VENEZUELA FROM OSLO, NORWAY. I WANT TO GIVE THEM A CITY COUNCIL. TO GRAY BOWL RESCUE AND SPECIAL FORCES BRIAN STERN FOR THEIR WORK. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA. SECONDED FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. OPPOSED. AYES HAVE IT. >>LUIS VIERA: ZONINGS ARE ORDINANCES. NUMBER ONE, A LONG TIME I HAVE BEEN PUSHING FOR THE ADMINISTRATIONING TO DO A COMPREHENSIVE PUBLIC SAFETY MASTER PLAN FOR POLICE AND FIRE. ULTIMATELY IT CAME DOWN, A LONG STORY SOMETHING PRODUCED BY THE ADMINISTRATION THAT IT WAS JUST FUNDED UNDER THE THRESHOLD OF $100,000 AND DIDN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO GO THROUGH TAMPA CITY COUNCIL. APPEARS THERE WHEN A A LOT OF WORK WITH THE APPLICABLE UNIONS OF THE PBA OR LOCAL 754 MARCH 5, WANT CITY TO PRESENT AN ORDINANCE AN ANNUAL PUBLIC SAFETY MASTER PLAN TO BE DONE BY THE ARD ADMINISTRATION THROUGH ORDINANCE BY THE UNION PRESIDENTS ARE THEIR DESIGNEES TO HAVE THAT AS IS A MATTER OF ORDINANCE OR LAW HERE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA THAT IT HAS TO BE DONE EVERY UNIVERSITIER IN COOPE-- YEAR WITH THE APPELICABLE UNION AND WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA TO AS WE GROW AND SEE OUR NEEDS FOR POLICE AND FEAR WE WANT TO MAKE SURE IT IS DONE IN THE PUBLIC AND WORKING WITH THE APPLICABLE ADVOCATES FOR THE FIRST RESPONDERS. THAT IS MY MOTION. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHAT IS THE ACTION PLAN ON THAT? >>LUIS VIERA: HAVE STAFF PRESENT ON FEASIBILITY OF AN ORDINANCE ON MARCH 5. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA. SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: JUST FOR REVIEW OF MY MINDS. THAT HAS TO DO A LOT WITH FINANCES, AM I CORRECT? >>LUIS VIERA: NOT NECESSARILY PROPOSALS. PUBLIC SAFETY MASTER PLAN WILL SAY OUR CITY NEEDS A NEW FIRE STATION HERE. ON PROJECTION OF FINANCING. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IF SOMETHING HAPPENS TO THE CITY LIKE MIGHT HAPPEN WITH THIS SENATE BILL FLOATING AROUND WITH AD VALOREM TAXATIONS AND WHATEVER IT IS. WE NEED TO FIND NEW MONEY. I AM ALL FOR THAT, BUT I HAVE TO WARN A SIDE TO IT IF SOMETHING HAPPENS WITH THE FUNDING, WE MAY HAVE PLAN AND MAY NOT HAVE THE MONEY. I AM TELLING YOU I AM FOR IT, BUT WHAT IS COMING COULD COME. >>LYNN HURTAK: I AM OKAY WITH THE FEASIBILITY START. >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY MADAM CHAIR FOR BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA. JUST LIKE THE PARKS MASTER PLAN. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I VOTED FOR THE PLAN, YES. >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA. A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. N ANY OPPOSED? OKAY. >>LUIS VIERA: LAST, MADAM CHAIR, WE HAVE BEEN TALKING HAVING A CITY OF TAMPA VETERANS HAVE ADVISORY COMMITTEE. WE HAD A WOMAN COME FROM THE ASIAN PACIFIC ADVISORY COMMITTEE FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA. AND I HAVE BEEN SPEAKING WITH CITY LEGAL AS WELL AS MR. SHELBY, MY OFFICE AND OTHERS. WE HAD A MEETING A ADMINISTRATION REPRESENTATIVES AND MEMBERS OF THE VETERAN COMMUNITY OF SUCH A COMMITTEE AND THERE WAS A LOT OF INTEREST. THEREFORE, WHAT I WANT TO DO TO SORT OF GET THIS THING MOVING. GUYS, MY VISION IS THAT WILL COME BACK -- IF WE PASS ON APRIL 16, EXCUSE ME. WE GET TO MOVING FOR THE NEXT ADMINISTRATION ESSENTIALLY BECAUSE THERE IS GOING TO BE SOME LIFTOFF. SO THIS IS -- THIS IS MY MOTION IS A MOTION FOR CITY LEGAL TO RETURN WITH AN ORDINANCE ON APRIL 16, 2026 FOR A CITY OF TAMPA VETERANS COMMITTEE. WE CAN TALK WHETHER IT IS A MAYOR'S COMMITTEE, A CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEE, WHATEVER IT MAY BE, ON THAT -- ON APRIL 16. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND. >>LYNN HURTAK: A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA. SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO. ANY COMMENT? OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, COUNCIL. >>LYNN HURTAK: COUNCIL MEMBER YOUNG. >>NAYA YOUNG: OKAY. SO RECENTLY -- I THINK WE -- MAINLY WE WERE ALL THERE, BUT THERE WERE AT THE FIRE FIGHTERS BALL, THERE WERE TWO YOUNG MEN THAT WAS RECOGNIZED. THIS IKORA MACRON NEXT AND DARNELL BARTON. THEY WERE RECOGNIZED -- I CAN'T REMEMBER THE NAME 80 WARD THEY RECEIVED, BUT THEY HELPED SOMEONE OUT OF A HOUSE FIRE. SO I WANTED TO MOVE TO MAKE A MOTION TO PRAENLT COMMENDATION FEBRUARY 19, 2025 TO THEM FOR THEIR EXTRAORDINARY BRAVERY AND QUICK ACTION IN SAVING THE LIFE OF A NEIGHBOR DURING A HOUSE FIRE, THEIR COURAGE EXEMPLIFIES THE HIGHER STANDARDS OF COMMUNITY SERVICES. AND I THINK ITS REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE, YOU KNOW, RECOGNIZE SOME PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT ARE GOING ABOVE AND BEYOND IN DOING THINGS TO, YOU KNOW, HELP THE NEIGHBORS AND TO HELP THEIR COMMUNITIES. SO I WOULD LOVE TO BE ABLE TO BRING THEM HERE. >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE. AWESOME. >>NAYA YOUNG: LOVE TO HAVE THEM HERE FOR RECOGNIZE INTO I THEM. ALSO I JUST WANT TODAY TAKE -- WILL CLENDENIN WITH EGG VOTE ON THAT. A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG. A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. OPPOSED. AYES HAVE IT. >>NAYA YOUNG: THANK YOU. AND ALSO RECENTLY, I ACTUALLY ABOUT -- THIS MORNING, THERE WAS SOMETHING VERY TRAGIC THAT HAPPENED IN MY DISTRICT WITHIN THE SULPHUR SPRINGS AREA. O'CLOCK THIS MORNING, A YOUNG LADY WHO WAS SHOT AND KILLED OVER -- I THINK IT WAS MAYBE A DAY OR TWO AGO. ALSO WITHIN MY DISTRICT, ANOTHER SHOOTING AND A STABBING. AND THERE WAS ALSO DOCTOR Y-- - A COUPLE OF INCIDENTS THAT HAPPENED IN OUR DISTRICT. I WANT TO RECOGNIZE THIS YOUNG LADY. A TEENAGER WHO HAS A LOT OF LIFE AHEAD OF HER. AS WE TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, APPROVING, YOU KNOW, OUR NEIGHBORHOODS AN HAVING OPPORTUNITIES FOR YOUTH. THAT IS I DIDN'T SPEAK SO AS MUCH OF HAVING OPPORTUNITIES AND THINGS FOR YOUTH SO WE CAN CONTINUE TO KEEP THEM ENGAGED AND KEEP THEM INVOLVED, BUT ALSO I JUST WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT TO RECOGNIZE THAT YOUNG LAID ERR AND SEND THE WELL WISHES TO HER FAMILY AND THE ONES FROM THE OTHER INCIDENTS. AND ALSO I HAVE BEEN GOING AROUND GOING TO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION MEETS. YESTERDAY I WAS AT THE LEGACY OF FAIR OAKS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION MEETING. AND I REALLY ENJOY GOING TO THE ASSOCIATION MEETINGS, BECAUSE IT IS WHERE YOU GET A CHANCE TO REALLY LISTEN TO TALK TO PEOPLE AND HEAR FROM, YOU KNOW, OUR COMMUNITY. AND I AM ALWAYS VERY HOPEFUL, BECAUSE YOU HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE IN IT SHALL IN OUR COMMUNITY WITHIN THE DISTRICT THAT REALLY WANT CONTINUE TO SEE POSITIVE THINGS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, AND THEY ARE ASKING GREAT QUESTIONS AN WANTING TO KNOW WHO DO WE TALK TO AND, HOW DO WE GET THIS DONE AND WHAT YOU NEED FROM US. FOR ME AS A COUNCIL MEMBER, IT IS VERY HELPFUL BECAUSE YOU HAVE PEOPLE VERY, VERY VESTED IN THEIR COMMUNITY. SO I WANTED TO BRING THAT -- JUST TO LET THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS KNOW THAT I HAVE MET WITH SO FAR. I HAVE BEEN TO A COUPLE OF OTHER NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS THAT ARE ESCAPING ME. WANT TO RECOGNIZE INTO I THEM BECAUSE THEY ARE DOING GREAT WORK AND REALLY WANTED TO SEE POSITIVE THINGS HAPPEN IN OUR COMMUNITY WITHIN OUR DISTRICT. THAT IS ALL. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I LOVE MEETING WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS. YOU HAVE THE BEST NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS IN YOUR DISTRICT. >>NAYA YOUNG: THANK YOU. GOOD ONES ALL OVER THE CITY. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA. >>LUIS VIERA: I WANTED TO THANK YOU BOARD MEMBER OR COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG FOR YOUR REMARKS ON TH TRAGEDIES. JAY JOHNSON WITH RISE UP FOR PEACE. HE LOST HIS SON ON NEW YEAR'S EVE. AND BISHOP MICHELLE PATTY HAD SIMILAR TRAGEDIES IN HER LIFE. THANK YOU FOR ADVOCATING FOR VICTIMS OF CRIME. BECAUSE TOO MANY TIMES WHEN THINGS LIKE HAPPEN IN CERTAIN PARTS OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, THEY DON'T GET PUBLICITY. THEY DON'T. THANK YOU FOR THAT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY, SO, I HAVE A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT THINGS. WE BRIEFLY TALKED ABOUT -- WE TALKED ABOUT -- OR IN FEBRUARY, WE ARE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT WHAT WAS LEFT OVER FROM FY '25. WE HAVE AND WE TALKED ABOUT THIS DURING THE FY '26 BUDGET WE NEEDED TO START EARLIER FOR FY '27. SOLVE THE ARTS AND SOCIAL FUNDING WE WANT TO DO THAT BEFORE AND THE DISCUSSION THAT WE NEED TO BE TALKING ABOUT THE REST OF THE $2 BILLION. I MOVE TO SCHEDULE A COUNCIL DISCUSSION DURING THE MAY 28, 2026 WORKSHOP ON SOCIAL ACTION AND ARTS FUND, SPECIFICALLY WHAT PROBLEMS WE ARE TRYING TO SOLVE, WHAT ARE OUR GOALS, DEFINE GRANTS VERSUS FINANCING AND OUTSOURCING. WHICH IS ASSOCIATED TO THE. I HAVE THIS WIN WILL D DOWN SULING, SO DON'T WORRY. IN THE MEAN TIME, WHAT I WILL ASK MISS KOPESKY TO REACH OUT TO EACH OF US AN KIND OF GET OUR THOUGHTS ALREADY AND COLLATE IT SO SHE CAN LEAD THIS DISCUSSION. BECAUSE THIS A DISCUSSION BETWEEN US AND COUNCIL. IT DOESN'T NEED THE ADMINISTRATION NECESSARILY. THEY CAN COME AND LISTEN, BUT I REALLY THINK MILLS KOPESKY CAN TALK TO US AND FIGURE OUT WHAT OUR GOALS ARE. BUT I AM GOING TO ESSENTIAL HER OUT WITH THOSE THREE MAIN QUESTIONS OF WHAT -- WHAT ACTUALLY ARE WE TRYING TO SOLVE. NOT JUST HANDING OUT MONEY. WHAT IS THE POINT. AND WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO AND KIND OF GET A GOAL AROUND THAT. THAT IS MY FIRST MOTION. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT. >>LYNN HURTAK: THEN. MISS SHARP HAS BEEN OUT THIS MORNING ASKING ALL OF YOUR AIDES WHAT YOUR AVAILABILITY IS, BECAUSE I WANT TO SCHEDULE A MEETING OF FY '26 BUDGET BEFORE SPRING BREAK. WANT THEED A IN LOGISTICS AND ASSET MANAGEMENT TO KNOW WHAT OUR PRIORITIES ARE BEFORE THEY BUILD A BUDGET. SPEAKING OF THE YOUTH. A GREAT TIME TO TALK ABOUT THAT. MOVE TO SCHEDULED A MEETING TO DISCUSS THE FY FOR CITY COUNCIL ONLY TO DISCUSS OUR BUDGET PRIORITIES. LED BY MISS KOPESKY AND I WILL WORK WITH HER ON AGENDA WHICH, OF COURSE, SHE WILL REACH OUT TO ALL OF YOU. BUT I WANTED TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT WHAT KIND OF MEETING WE WANTED TO HAVE FOR THIS. I WOULD REALLY LOVE -- WHEN I ENVISION, I WOULD LOVE THE PUBLIC TO ATTEND. A SPECIAL CALLED EVENING MEETING. FIRST OF ITS KINDS. MR. SHELBY SAID HE CAN'T REMEMBER A TIME WHEN COUNCIL HAS EVER DONE THIS. BUT I THINK THAT THIS IS WHAT WE ARE HEARING FROM THE PUBLIC. THEY ARE HEARING -- THEY WANT US -- THEY WANT TO KNOW WHERE THIS MONEY IS GOING. I WOULD LIKE TO DO A SPECIAL CALLED MEETING. THAT IS AMENABLE TO YOU ALL, AND HE HEAR SOME NODS, WE HAVE, AGAIN, MISS SHARP TALKED TO YOUR AIDES AND SEEMS THAT MARCH 3, EVENING, WHICH IS A MONDAY NIGHT. MARCH 9 IN THE MORNING OR MARCH 10, WHICH IS KIND OF IFFY BECAUSE WE HAVE THE HERMAN MASSEY RIBBON CUTTING AND THAT IS A CRA THING. WE ALL WOULD LIKE TO BE FOR THAT. MARCH 9 IS A TUESDAY. THAT'S WHY -- I ACTUALLY BROUGHT OUT MY PHONE. I NEVER, EVER HAVE MY PHONE ON DAIS AND,YO, YIKES, THAT WAS ME WITH ALL THE BEEPS. THAT IS I DIDN'T DON'T HAVE IT ON HERE. BUT, AGAIN. SHE WENT TO YOUR STAFF AND ASKED. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MARCH 9 IS GOOD FOR ME. >>LYNN HURTAK: MARCH 3 WOULD BE AN EVENING MEETING. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO. MARCH 9 IN THE MORNING WOULD -- >>LYNN HURTAK: MY CONCERN IS I DON'T KNOW WHEN HART MET. >>LUIS VIERA: MAY I MARCH 3, I HAVE IN THE EVENING -- MARCH 9, I HAVE SOME DEPOSITIONS AND IF I WIN A MOTION THREE WEEKS BEFORE THEN I AM OUT OF THOSE DEPOSITIONS, SO MARCH 9 IS THE MAYBE. MARCH 3 IN THE EVENING I CAN DO. I CAN. I AM AVAILABLE MARCH 3. MARCH 9 IS IFFY, BECAUSE I -- I ERRONEOUSLY HAD SOMETHING, BRANDON THAT WAS MY FAULT. MARCH 3, I AM AVAILABLE IN EVENING. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MARCH 3 I AM GOOD. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I GUESS. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THURSDAY OF CITY COUNCIL. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I HAVE THE TSA. >>LYNN HURTAK: SO I -- I WOULD LIKE TO DO THIS AT 5:00 AND REALLY MAKE A BIG DEAL OUT OF IT. AND REALLY GET THE PUBLIC TO COME AND TELL US WHAT THEY WANT. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HOW LONG DO YOU WANT THIS MEETING TO GO. >>LYNN HURTAK: IN COUNCIL CHAMBERS. IT00 IS BE. MAYBE THREE HOURS. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: A MOTION FOR A SPECIAL CALLED MEETING MANUFACTURE 5:00 FROM MARCH 3. A TUESDAY NIGHT. I MOVE TO SCHEDULE -- THERE ARE IS -- THIS IS SPECIFICALLY TO TALK ABOUT FY '27. MISS KOPESKY WILL LEAD. BUT FOR US TO LISTEN TO THROW OUT IDEAS AND TALK TO EACH OTHER. I KNOW THE ADMINISTRATION IN THE PAST HAVE COME TO US EACH INDIVIDUALLY, BUT TO KIND OF TALK HOLISTICALLY AND HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC. DO THEY WANT -- WE HAVE A LOT OF MONEY IN PAVING, BUT WHERE ELSE DO THEY WANT THAT MONEY. DO THEY WANT IT SPECIFIC. WE HEARD A LOT OF PARKS PEOPLE. FROM SIDEWALKS. FROM STORMWATER. WHERE DO THEY WANT US TO SPEND MONEY. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: KEEP YOUR HANDS OFF MY PAVING. >>LYNN HURTAK: I HAVE NOT SAID THAT. A LOT OF MONEY IN PAVING AND WE MAY NOT NEED TO MOVE MORE. AGAIN, NOTHING IS SET IN STONE. AND SEND SOMETHING TO THE ADMINISTRATION. AND AGAIN, MISS KOPESKY WILL REACH OUT OF THE TO YOU AND HELP SHEPHERD THIS. THIS IS BRAND-NEW THING. THIS IS WHAT WE WANT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE A MOTION. DID WE HAVE A SECOND? >>LUIS VIERA: IF NOT, I WILL SECOND IT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCIL MEMBER YOUNG SECONDED IT. THIS SPEAKING TO SCHEDULING THE SPECIAL MEETING. COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA. >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY, CAN WE HAVE A PROPOSED TIME CUTOFF -- >>LYNN HURTAK: I HAD SAID 8:00. >>MARTIN SHELBY: TUESDAY EVENING, MARCH 3, FICTION, SPECIFICALLY FROM 5 TO 8 P.M. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCIL MEMBER YOUNG, YOU WANT TO SPEAK MUCH THE ISSUE. >>NAYA YOUNG: I WANT TO SAY I THINK THAT IS A GREAT IDEA. WHAT I SAY IS COLLABORATION AND A WAY TO COLLABORATE WITH YOUR CONSTITUENTS AND COMMUNITY AND ACTUALLY LISTENING. SO I THINK THAT IS A FANTASTIC IDEA AND MAY BE A WAY FOR PEOPLE TO SEE THAT WE ARE LITTLE BIT MORE ALIKE IN OUR THINKING THAN WE MAY THINK. SO GREAT TO HAVE EVERYBODY TOGETHER IN ONE SPACE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU WANT TO SPEAK? >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WILL MAKE IT WORK. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. OPPOSED. >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH. I AM VERY EXCITED AND MAKE IT WHAT WE WANT IT TO BE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO, ANY NEW BUSINESS. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I DO NOT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA, ANY NEW BUSINESS? MICROPHONE. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO PRESENT A COMMENDATION TO THE MEDAL WINNERS OF 2025-'26 AMERICAN LEGION ORATORICAL CONTEST. REFLECTION OF KEEN INTEREST AND PRINCIPLES OUTLINED IN THE CONSTITUTION OF UNITED STATES IS AND THEIR AWARENESS OF THE RESPONSIBILITY THAT IS INCUMBENT ON EACH CITIZEN TO EXERCISE THE RIGHTS TO PROTECT THOSE RIGHTS. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THE PRESENTATION ACCOMMODATION IN THE EVENING SECTION OF MARCH 12, 2026 AT 5:01. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. OPPOSED HAVE IT. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I HOPE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT LISTENING. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ANYTHING ELSE, SIR. >>LYNN HURTAK: I RECOGNIZE CHAIR CLEN . >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I HAVE SEVERAL THINGS. >>LYNN HURTAK: GAVE US A LOVELY MEMO. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WRITTEN BY MR. SHELBY. >>LYNN HURTAK: HE IS GOOD. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WON'T GO THAT FAR. SO -- THIS IS IN DISCUSSION WE HAVE ALREADY GIVEN A HINT FROM THE PREVIOUS CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THE WORKSHOP. FOR THE INTEREST OF CLARITY I MAKE A MOTION CM 2510252 ON JANUARY 29, 2026 WORKSHOP BE RETITLED FROM BY ANNUAL CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT REPORT AND PRESENTATION TO SOUTH HOWARD RELIEF PROJECT PRESENTATION AND BY ANNUAL CAPITAL AN AL PROJECT WRITTEN REPORT. FURTHER THAT STAFF WILL BE LIMITED TO FOCUS ON SOUTH HOWARD FLOOD PROJECTS WHILE ACCOMPANIED WRITTEN REPORT WILL CONTINUE TO UPDATE THE OTHER MAJOR PROJECTS. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND. >>LYNN HURTAK: A MOTION FROM CHAIR CLENDENIN AND A SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA. I THINK WE ARE ALL GOOD AND THE COUNCIL MEMBER WHO DISAGREE IS NO LONGER WITH US. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? >> I MAKE A MOTION TO ASK STAFF -- >> ACTUALLY BEFORE YOU GO TO THAT, COULD -- I WOULD STILL PERSONALLY LIKE TO SEE A MOTION ABOUT SEEING IF STAFF COULD -- COULD HAVE A COUPLE OF WORKSHOPS SCHEDULED BY NEXT THURSDAY. SOME PUBLIC OUTREACH MEETINGS BECAUSE I THINK THAT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL IN -- >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IN THE INTEREST OF COMMUNICATION SOMETHING IN. >>LYNN HURTAK: I THINK BY NEXT THURSDAY IF WE CAN ASK -- >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WILL ADD TO THAT ANOTHER MOTION. >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT'S WHAT I AM SAYING. MAKE A SEPARATE MOTION ABOUT THAT. I WOULD FEEL BETTER AND ALL OF US WILL FEEL BETTER. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WITH EXPANDED SCOPE OF THE PROJECT. >>LYNN HURTAK: A COUPLE OF DATES OF AND PLACE WHERE IS PEOPLE CAN FINISH WATCHING THIS IF THEY CAN'T JOHN US, WATCH US LATER AND HEAR WHERE THEY CAN FIND MORE INFORMATION ON THESE DATES AND THESE TIMES. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ASK STAFF TO PRESENT A FINANCIAL RESOLUTION OF THE THE PROJECTED REMAINING AMOUNT IN LOWER STORMWATER WATERSHED OF THE SOUTH HOWARD FLOOD RELIEF AND STREETSCAPE CAPITAL PROJECT AND ABOUT I THINK IT TO COUNCIL'S CONSIDERATION DURING THE JANUARY 29, 2026 EVENING MEETING. JUST FOR FYI. THAT IS THE MOTION. FYI, ONLY THREE AB CASES, FEW OF COMP PLAN AMENDMENTS. ONE OF THEM WILL PROBABLY BE CONTINUED. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND. >>LYNN HURTAK: A MOTION AND A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA. ANY OPPOSED? >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NAY. >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH MANISCALCO VOTE NOTHING AND CARLSON BEING ABSENT AT VOTE. >>MARTIN SHELBY: SORRY, I WAS OUT OF THE ROOM. FOR -- >>ALAN CLENDENIN: FINANCIAL RESOLUTION TO THE 29th EVENING MEETING. >>MARTIN SHELBY: OF JANUARY? >>LYNN HURTAK: COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AS LEARNED ABOUT THIS THROUGH SOCIAL MEDIA, WAS THIS WHAT WAS GOING TO BE PROPOSED AT THE FEBRUARY 5 MEETING? OKAY. THANKS. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: FYI, I AM NOT GOING TO BE AT THE FEBRUARY 5 MEETING. NEXT THING REFERENCE TO THE CRABBINGRC ISSUE. -- CRC ISSUE. I WORKED CLOSELY WITH LEGAL STAFF, THE FACILITATOR. ATTORNEY FOR THE CRC AND, OF COURSE, MR. SHELBY. SO IN LIGHT OF THAT IN THE MEMO THAT I SENT, I MOVE TO NOT AMEND THE RESOLUTION NUMBER 2025-1044 AND ADO THIS MEMORANDUM OF THE CHAIR DATED JANUARY 1, 2026 AGUILAR POLICY OF CITY COUNCIL AND BE DIRECTED BACK TO THE CHARTER REVIEW ADVISORY COMMISSION. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND. AND I HAVE A QUESTION. PER YOUR MEMO. WHAT YOU ARE SAYING WITH THIS IS TO REMIND THE BOARD, THESE ARE THE RULES REGARDING MAJORITY VOTES AND UNANIMOUS VOTES. SO GO BY THE GUIDELINES AND DON'T TRY TO CHANGE THAT. SECOND. >>LYNN HURTAK: NOT TO WIDEN THE SCOPE. THAT WAS -- THAT WAS VERY IMPORTANT NOT TO WIDEN THE SCOPE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I DID NOT SIT ON THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION LAST TIME AND COUNCILMAN CARLSON AND COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK DID. LISTEN WHAT THEY SAID DURING THAT EXPERIENCE. AND I THINK WE ALL DID. WHEN THAT WORKSHOP OF CRAFTING THESE RULES WAS REALLY WEIGHED HEAVY ON THEIR EXPERIENCE. AND THAT'S WHY WE DID WHAT WE DID. OKAY. >>LYNN HURTAK: I APPRECIATE IT AND GLADS WE DID IT NOW AND DIDN'T WAIT. I THINK THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT. A MOTION FROM CHAIR CLENDENIN, SECONDED FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? OKAY. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FEEL. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: A MOTION TO RECEIVE -- >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IT A COMMENDATION. THIS IS YOUR BIRTHDAY PRESENT. >>LUIS VIERA: NOT THAT. ACTUALLY -- I -- I DON'T THINK -- JUST TO START THINKING ABOUT THIS. WE ARE GOING TO BE ASKED A BIG THING BY THE RAYS, OKAY. MAYBE WE SHOULD SET -- I DON'T WANT TO GET -- BUT -- IN OTHER WORDS, START THINKING OF MAYBE SETTING TIMES ASIDE. I AM NOT GOING TO START TO GET INTO MY THOUGHTS ABOUT IT, BUT WE SHOULD CERTAINLY DEDICATE SPECIAL TIME FOR THAT IN COUNCIL. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE WERE COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO. SECONDED FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. OPPOSED. AYES HAVE IT. I HAVE A BUNCH OF DOCUMENT TO SIGN.