... . >>ALAN CLENDENIN: BEING WELL-FED. WELCOME BACK TO TAMPA CITY COUNCIL. CALL THE ROLE. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE. >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE. >>NAYA YOUNG: HERE. >>BILL CARLSON: HERE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HERE. WE HAVE A QUORUM. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: A MOTION TO MOVE THE CITY COUNCIL PUBLIC HEARINGS. COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON SENT AN E-MAIL THAT HE HAD AN EMERGENCY HE HAD TO RESPOND TO LAND NOT RETURN TO COUNCIL THIS AFTERNOON. HE IS ABSENT. >>LYNN HURTAK: MOTION TO RESCHEDULE FILE NUMBER SU 125-59-C TO APRIL 16, 2026 AT 1:30 P.M., 315 E. KENNEDY TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33602. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU. THAT MOTION IS DUE TO A MISNOTICE AND COULD NOT BE HEARD AND SCHEDULED FOR APRIL 16, 20261:30 P.M. AT -- >>LYNN HURTAK: I ALREADY DID. ALAN CLENDENIN: HE WAS POINTING AT YOU LIKE YOU MISSED SOMETHING. WHAT? SHELBY SHE WILL WAIT, I AM SORRY. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. SECONDED FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. OPPOSED, THE AUTOEYS HAVE IT. THAT IS ENOUGH OF YOUS. >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU. WE WILL GO ON TO ITEM NUMBER 62. IF YOU ARE HERE TO SPEAK TO ITEM 626, PLEASE STAND, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND BE SWORN IN BY OUR CLERK. [SWEARING IN] THANK YOU, YES, MA'AM. >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE FROM THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT. ITEM NUMBER 62 IS FILE NUMBER FDN-25-156-C TO CONSIDER A RECOMMENDED ORDER WITH A PETITION FOR REVIEW FOR A PARTY FDN-25-156 FOR PROPERTY 4312 WEST LAUREL STREET. A HEARING OFFICER CONDUCTED A REVIEW HEARING ON DECEMBER 5, 2025, PURSUANT TO CITY OF TAMPA CODE PRECIPITATION SECTION 27-16, SUBSECTIONS J-C. THAT HEARING OFFICER FILED A RECOMMENDED ORDER GRANTING A PETITION AND APPROVING A LEGAL NONCONFORMING USE OF THE PROPERTY HERE KATED 4312 WEST LAUREL STREET. I HAVE PROVIDED A COPY OF THE RECOMMENDED ORDER PREVIOUSLY, AND YOU ALSO HAVE A COPY BEFORE YOU FOR THIS HEARING IN ORDER TO TAKE YOUR NEXT ACTION. AND NOW PURSUANT TO CODE SECTION 27-61, WE ARE AT THE PHASE WHERE CITY COUNCIL SHOULD TAKE ACTION REGARDING THE RECOMMENDED ORDER. CODE SECTION 27-61, SUBJECTION J 1E III GIVES THE PROVISIONS AND ACTIONS THAT CITY COUNCIL CAN TAKE REGARDING THE RECOMMENDED ORDER. CITY COUNCIL CAN ADOPT THE RECOMMENDED ORDER AS FINAL, REJECT THE RECOMMENDED ORDER OREGON MODIFY THE RECOMMENDED ORDER. 27-61 GOES ON TO STATE THAT THE CITY COUNCIL MAY NOT REJECT OR MODIFY ANY FINDINGS OF FACT REACHED BY THE HEARING OFFICER. AND GIVES SOME EXCEPTIONS. IF CITY COUNCIL DETERMINES THAT A FINDING OF FACT IS NOT BASED ON COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE CONTAINED IN THE RECORD OR THAT A FINDING OF FACT DOES NOT COMPLY WITH THE ESSENTIAL REQUIREMENTS OF LAW, CITY COUNCIL MAY REMAND THE MATTER BACK TO THE HEARING OFFICER. AND LASTLY, CODE SECTION 27-61 GOES ON IT TO SAY IF CITY COUNCIL REJECTS OR MODIFIES A CONCLUSION OF LAW, IT MUST STATE WITH PARTICULAR TEE IN THE FINAL ORDER AND REASONS. IT MUST MAKE A FINDING THAT IS -- THAT ITS SUBSTITUTION OF A CONCLUSION OF LAW IS AS OR MORE REASONABLE THAN THAT WHICH WAS REJECTED OR MORTIFIED. REGARDING THIS MATTER, AS I PREVIOUSLY STATED, THE DE NOVO HEARING ALREADY TOOK PLEAS. THIS IS ONLY BEFORE YOU TO CONSIDER THE RECOMMENDED ORDER WHICH YOU HAVE IN YOUR POSSESSION. THE CITY OF TAMPA DID NOT FILE A REQUEST FOR ORAL ARGUMENTS OR EXCEPTIONS REGARDING THIS MATTER. SO I WILL TURN IT OVER TO MR. SHELBY IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. BUT YOU HAVE THE RECOMMENDED ORDER BEFORE YOU. AND I PREVIOUSLY PROVIDED THE RECORD REGARDING THIS MATTER. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MR. SHELBY. >>MARTIN SHELBY: MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY. WANT TO AFFIRM EVERYTHING THAT MISS PETTIS-MACKLE STATES WITH REVIEW 27-16. YOU WILL NOT BE HEARING FROM ANYBODY OTHER THAN WHAT YOU HEARD PROCEDURALLY BECAUSE, AGAIN, THERE ARE NO EXCEPTIONS TO THIS RECOMMENDED ORDER AND THERE IS NO REQUEST FOR ORAL ARGUMENT. SO MY SUGGESTION IS THAT HAVING THE OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THE ORDER AND THEN AGAIN YOU HEARD THE OPTIONS THAT YOU HAVE WITH REGARD TO TAKING ACTION ON IT. THANK YOU. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU. DO YOU UNDERSTAND? THE FIRST TIME YOU HAVE DONE THIS. >>NAYA YOUNG: YES. >>MARTIN SHELBY: FOR EVERYBODY'S BENEFIT, THIS AND MISS MACKLE CAN CERTAINLY AUGMENT THIS. THIS IS A PROCESS THAT THE CODE ALLOWS TO BYPASS HAVING A DE NOVO HEARING BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL. IS THAT CORRECT, FOR FINAL -- WELL, FOR FINAL DECISION. ULTIMATELY GOES TO A HEARING OFFICER? >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: A HEARING OFFICER CONDUCTS THE DE NOVO HEARING. >>MARTIN SHELBY: HEARING OFFICER CONDUCTS THE DE NOVO ON A FORMER DECISION. >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: CORRECT. >>MARTIN SHELBY: I WANT TO BE CLEAR. THANK YOU. THIS IS THE PROCESS THAT OBVIATES THE NEED WITHIN THE CODE TO GO THROUGH THE FINDINGS FACT AND THE CONCLUSIONS OF LAW. THOSE HAVE ALL BEEN PROVIDED FOR YOU IN THE FORMER LETTER WITH A CONCLUSION AND A RECOMMENDATION. SO YOUR CHOICES ARE TO ACCEPT IT, ACCEPT THE RECOMMENDATION OR REJECT THE RECOMMENDATION OR IF YOU MODIFY IT, CERTAIN PARAMETERS THAT WE CAN GO THROUGH, BUT IT IS VERY LIMITED AS TO WHAT YOU CAN DO WITH WANTING TO CHANGE THE RECOMMENDATION AND RETURN WITH A DIFFERENT ORDER. SO MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE, IF YOU HAVEN'T HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO READ THIS NOW PREVIOUSLY, MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE THAT YOU TAKE A FEW MINUTES TO DO THAT TO HAVE A LEVEL OF COMFORT AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, ANSWER THEM. WHAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU IS SOMETHING THAT NO EXCEPTIONS HAVE OPINION FIELD TO THE ORDER AND NO REQUEST FOR AN ORAL ARGUMENT BEFORE CITY COUNCIL. SO THAT BEING THE CASE, CITY COUNCIL CAN OPEN IT UP ON THEIR OWN AND HE CERTAINLY WOULD NOT HAVE A RECOMMENDATION BECAUSE THERE IS NOTHING UPON WHICH TO BASE THE RECOMMENDATION ON. SO I AM NOT GOING TO PASS JUDGMENT ON THAT. BUT IF YOU HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS, I WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: EXPLAIN IN PLAIN LANGUAGE WHAT THE COUNCIL PERSON WHO HAVEN'T GONE THIS BEFORE. WHAT THIS MEANS IF YOU REJECT OR ADOPT, WHAT THAT MEANS IN PLAIN LANGUAGE. >>MARTIN SHELBY: WELL, IN THIS CASE, YOU WANT TO BE SPECIFIC TO THIS CASE? >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES. >>MARTIN SHELBY: IN THIS CASE, THE ARE EM DDAYS SHOWS THAT THE PETITIONER -- I AM QUOTING FROM IT. MET ITS BURDEN OF PROOF A DUPLEX CASS LAWFULLY APPROVED FOR THE CITY FOR OVER 770 YEARS. THE HEARING OFFICER RECOMMENDS THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVE THE PETITIONER'S QUESTION AND REVERSE THE CITY'S DENIAL OF THE PETITIONER'S REQUEST TO CERTIFY THE LEGAL NONCONFORMING USE OF THE PROPERTY AS A DUPLEX. AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AS TO WHAT THAT MEANS, WE WILL TALK ABOUT THAT, BUT BASICALLY IT IS TO REVERSE A DECISION BY THE ZONING ADMINISTER MORE AND GRANT THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION ARIZONA LEGAL NONCONFORMING USE GOT IT? COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA. >> I AM THINKING ABOUT MY SELF. HE GOT THIS RIGHT NOW. I DON'T KNOW ABOUT OTHER COUNCIL MEM MEMBERS. I'M GOING TO DIGEST AND MAKE THE DECISION. THEY HAD IT FOR HOW LONG? >>MARTIN SHELBY: ACTUALLY COUNCIL, IN ALL FAIRNESS AND YOU SHOULD KNOW ABOUT THIS AND MAYBE WE NEED TO CHANGE THE PROCESS IN ORDER TO BE BRIEFED ON IT. BUT WHAT HAPPENS IS WHEN THIS IS EVEN FIRST SET BY CITY COUNCIL ON THE AGENDA WHERE YOU ACTUALLY SET HEARINGS FOR REVIEW ATTACHES THE ORDER AND IN THE BACK-UP MATERIAL. IT ALSO SHOWS UP IN THE HEARING FOR THE AGENDA REVIEW UNDER THE AGENDA FOR THAT NUMBER IN ON BASE. WHAT THIS IS DOING FOR THOSE COUNCIL MEMBERS -- AND IF WE DO NEED TO HAVE A BRIEFING IN ADVANCE OF THIS TO DISCUSS THIS PRIVATELY, I AM GOING TO TAKE THAT UNDER ADVISEMENT AND PERHAPS WE CAN DO THIS SO YOU ARE NOT IN A POSITION WHERE YOU ARE GOING TO BE PRESENTED WITH THIS FOR THE FIRST TIME. IT MAY MEAN CHANGING THE PROCESS MAYBE WITH THE CODE. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: RHYME NOT GOING TO VOTE ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. I HAVEN'T READ IT AND TO DIGEST IT AND READ IT IN 15 MINUTES WOULD BE A CONCEPT OF TREASON ON BOTH SIDES OF THE ISSUES. I HAVEN'T READ THIS OR DIGESTED THIS. AND I AM SUPPOSED TO VOTE ON IT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA FIRST. COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA? >>LUIS VIERA: I WILL SAY PERHAPS -- >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AM NOT OBJECTING TO IT. I AM SAYING WHAT I AM SAYING. >>LUIS VIERA: I WILL SAY MAYBE PERHAPS -- THIS ISN'T ON YOU, MARTY, BECAUSE YOU WOULDN'T KNOW, BUT IT WOULD BE GOOD TO LET COUNCIL MEMBERS KNOW SOMETHING LIKE THIS WE HAVE AN ORDER AND DO YOU WITH I SHALL TO TALK ABOUT IT JUST BEFORE. LIKE NOTHING -- NO BALL WAS DROPPED OR ANYTHING OF THAT NAT NATURE. IF CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS -- COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA MAYBE HEAR FROM THE PARTIES EACH. >>MARTIN SHELBY: HERE -- I HAVE TO SHARE WITH YOU AND THE FIRST TIME COUNCIL MEMBER YOUNG HAS BEEN FACING THIS. THINGS THAT CAME IN THE PAST AND MR. CHAIRMAN, THERE USED TO BE A TIME WHEN THERE WAS NO DISCUSSION AND YOU HAD TO GO FORWARD. PERHAPS THERE WAS ORAL ARGUMENT. BUT IN CASE, THERE IS NONE. BUT YOU ACTUALLY -- THE LAST TIME THIS WAS HEARD, YOU TOO YOU WILLY GAVE THE COUNCIL AN OPPORTUNITY. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I AM GOING TO IF WE CAN GET PAST THIS POINT. >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOUR INTENTION -- >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHY DON'T WE CUT TO THIS CHASE WHERE MR. SHELBY WAS GOING. WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS TAKE A SHORT BREAK OF TEN MINUTES TO ALLOW FOLKS THAT HAVE NOT HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THE DOCUMENTS TO REVIEW THOSE DOCUMENTS. AND WE WILL RECONVENE AT 1:53 P.M. SO YOU CAN REVIEW THESE DOCUMENTS AND WE WILL RECONVENE AT 1:53 P.M. >>LYNN HURTAK: WE HAVE TO STAY HERE TO READ THEM? >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU DON'T HAVE TO STAY HERE. BUT YOU HAVE TO BE BACK BY 1:53. >>MARTIN SHELBY: I WILL MAKE MYSELF INDIVIDUALLY. SUNSHINE LAW IS YOU CAN'T TALK MOCKst YOURSELVES. PLEASE DO NOT. I WILL MAKE MYSELF AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: 1:55. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AM NOT QUESTIONING YOUR MOTIVE, MR. CHAIRMAN, BUT YOU MEAN TO TELL ME YOU ARE GOING TO SIT ONE EACH INDIVIDUALLY AND GO OVER TEN MINUTES WHICH WILL BE AN HOUR AND A HALF. >>. >>MARTIN SHELBY: I HAVE A FEELING THAT THE ORDER SPEAKS FOR ITSELF AND IF YOU HAVE ANY PROCEDURAL QUESTIONS, I WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM FOR YOU. I HAVE READ IT AND PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD AND PRETTY CLEAR. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I READ IT. >>LYNN HURTAK: WE HAD THEM. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WAS MOSTLY CONCERNED OF COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG BECAUSE SHE HAVEN'T GONE THROUGH ONE OF THESE HEARINGS BEFORE AND I ASKED MARTY SHELBY TO PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION, BECAUSE A LOT OF THIS STUFF THAT IS NEW TO HER. THESE THINGS THAT COME UP EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE. >>MARTIN SHELBY: DOES NOT HAPPEN OFTEN FOR COUNCIL AND IT DOES HAPPEN AND A DIFFERENT PROCESS THAN WHAT YOU NORMALLY HAVE A DE NOVO HEARING. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MAGISTRATE HAD THAT. >>MARTIN SHELBY: MAGISTRATE HAD THAT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NOW THAT WE TALKED A LITTLE MORE. YOU GET YOUR REQUEST. 1 D 55 P.M. READ AT WILL. 5 P.M . >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE. >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE. >>NAYA YOUNG: HERE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HERE. >>CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM. CITY COUNCIL HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THE MAGISTRATE'S RECOMMENDED ORDER GRANTING A PETITION APPROVING LEGAL NONCONFORMING USE. WHAT IS THE WILL OF COUNCIL? >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NOTHING FOR THE PETITIONER TO SAY? >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU COULD HAVE THREE THINGS. SEE THEM ON FRONT OF YOUR SCREEN RIGHT THERE. ONE PERSON ON COUNCIL HAS TO SAY ONE OF THOSE THREE THINGS. >>MARTIN SHELBY: ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU WISH TO HAVE FROM ME PROCEDURALLY I WILL BE ANTICIPATE TO ANSWER THEM MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY. YOU CAN NOT TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THIS IS IT. >>LYNN HURTAK: DO WE NEED TO CLOSE? >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU NEVER OPENED A PUBLIC HEARING. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OCEAN TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO. SECONDED. COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WOULD LIKE TO MICK A MOTION TO 'ADOPT THE RECOMMENDED ORDER AS FINAL. TO CLARIFY, THE RECOMMENDED ORDER SAYS THAT CITY COUNCIL APPROVE THE PETITIONER'S PET PETITION. >>LUIS VIERA: SECOND. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: REVERSE THE CITY'S DENIAL OF THE REQUEST TO CERTIFY THE LEGAL NONCONFORMING USE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: OR SAY ADOPT THE RECOMMENDED ORDER AS FINAL. >>LYNN HURTAK: WELL -- >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. >>LYNN HURTAK: ADD IN THE ADDRESS 4312 WEST LAUREL STREET SO WE KNOW WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: FOR FUTURE REFERENCE. WE WILL GO AHEAD AND TAKE IT. KEEPING IT SIMPLE IS BEST. >>MARTIN SHELBY: ACTUALLY ACCURATE IS BEST. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: PICK AND CHOOSE THE PIECES OF IT, WE MAY MISS SOMETHING. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO. SECONDED FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA. ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE. >>LUIS VIERA: YES. >>CLERK: CARLSON IS ABSENT. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AM GOING TO VOTE YES AND AUTO US IT FOR SOMETHING ELSE LATER ON. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES. >>LYNN HURTAK: YES. >>NAYA YOUNG: YES. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES. >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH CARLSON BEING ABSENT AT VOTE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU, CONCLUSION OF THE PUBLIC HEARINGS. STAFF REPORT, 66. >>LYNN HURTAK: AND 67. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: AND 67 TOGETHER. YOU ARE RIGHT. WHO IS HERE FROM STAFF TO PRESENT 66 AND 67? THERE SHE IS. I THINK YOU ARE ON MUTE STILL. YOU ARE STILL ON MUTE. OH, THERE YOU GO. NOW TALK. NO. CAN YOU TELL WHICH SIDE IT IS ON? OKAY. NO. IT IS YOUR PC. MISS COLINA. >>ADRIANA COLINA: DO YOU HEAR ME NOW? >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE GOT YOU. >>ADRIANA COLINA: PERFECT. I APOLOGIZE. ON MY END IT SHOWED MUTED -- UNMUTED. GOOD MORNING, CHAIRMAN CLENDENIN AND MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL, ADRIANA COLINA, DIRECTOR OF OLIS GICs AND ASSET MANAGEMENT. I'M HERE ON 66 AND 67. REQUESTING YOUR APPROVAL OF THE GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE GMP FOR THE CENTRALIZATION PROJECT. I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? HEARING 66 AND 67. COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. >>LYNN HURTAK: YES. WE GOT AN E-MAIL AT 10:30 LAST NIGHT ABOUT THIS. BECAUSE I ASKED DURING MY PREP MEETING -- WELL, I HIGHLIGHT IT. THAT'S WHY I AM SENDING -- WHOOPS, SORRY. YEAH. SO I HIGHLIGHTED WHAT WAS SENT TO US LAST NIGHT, AND MISS SHARP HAS A COPY TO PUT UP ON THE WOLF FOR THE PUBLIC TO SEE. HE WENT BACK AND LOOKED AT THE CIP THAT WE APPROVED IN SEPTEMBER AND VERY CLEARLY IT SHOWED IT WAS A $12 MILLION PROJECT, IN SEPTEMBER. NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN RISEN A THIRD OF PRICE. AND IN ADDITION -- SO I DON'T KNOW WHY IT HAS BEEN RAISED A THIRD, BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, HOW WE ARE GOING TO GET THAT MONEY IS TO BOND ANOTHER $7 MILLION. SO I AM -- I AM UNCOMFORTABLE WITH THIS. I AM NOT VOTING FOR IT BECAUSE $18 MILLION FOR -- I MEAN, DID THE SCOPE CHANGE ON THIS? YOU ARE MUTED AGAIN. AND THEN -- YEAH. IT'S UP ON THE SCREEN. >>ADRIANA COLINA: CAN CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? I'M NOT SURE WHAT IS GOING ON AND I SO APOLOGIZE. A UP CANCEL OF THINGS I WANTED TO MENTION. YOU MENTIONED SEPTEMBER. PLEASE KEEP IN MIND THAT IT WAS AN ESTIMATE UNTIL WE RECEIVED A GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE. WHEN WE ENTERED INTO THIS PROCESS WHICH WAS ACTUALLY IN JULY OF 2022, WHICH IS WHEN THE RFQ IS DESIGNED AND ADVERTISED A RANGE OF $124 MILLION TO $17 MILLION. THAT WAS AN ESTIMATE. FAST FORWARD TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY AND A LOT HAS HAPPENED. TARIFF HAS IMPACTED THE CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY GREATLY. RIGHT NOW I CAN TELL YOU STEEL IS UP 50%. ALUMINIUM IS UP 50%. COPPER IS UP 40%. AND SO ARE OTHER MATERIALS. IN ADDITION, IMMIGRATION REFORM HAS IMPACTED US GREATLY. FLORIDA, IT HAS AFFECTED THE CONSTRUCTION PRICES 38% OF EMIGRANTS MADE UP CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY IN FLORIDA. NATIONWIDE, THAT NUMBER IS ONLY 24%. THAT HAS IMPACTED OUR INDUSTRY. AND THEN LET'S TALK ABOUT THE HURRICANES THAT OCCURRED IN 2024. MATERIALS BECAME SCARCE FOR A LOT THINGS AND DROVE THE COST UP GREATLY, AS HAS INSURANCE. SO ALL OF THOSE THINGS FAST FORWARD TO WHEN WE RECEIVED THE GUAR GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE FROM OUR DESIGN BUILD TEAM IN DECEMBER. THIS IS WHEN WE GOT THIS NUMBER OF THE $16 MILLION -- OR THE $16.3 MILLION. I WILL TELL YOU WHEN WE WERE WORKING WITH THEM AND WE RECEIVED WHAT THE NUMBER LOOKED LIKE, WE VALUE ENGINEERED THIS PROJECT GREATLY. WE WENT FROM A TWO-STORY BUILDING THAT WAS GOING TO HOUSE -- THE SECOND STORY WAS GOING TO HOUSE HAD,R TRAINING BECAUSE WE NEEDED A PLACE FOR HEAVY EQUIPMENT, TRAINING TO OCCUR. AND THAT HAS GONE AWAY. A ONE-STORY BUILDING AND WE ARE MOVING THE MODULE -- HR IS TRAINING OUT OF 34th STREET THERE. WE WERE INITIALLY LOOKING AT 20 WAYS TO SERVICE OUR HEAVY EQUIPMENT BECAUSE WE ARE SERVICING WATER. WE ARE SERVICING MOBILITY. ER IS SERVICING CONTRACT ADMIN OUT OF THAT SITE. AND ALSO SERVICES OTHER GENERAL FUND EQUIPMENT. BECAUSE THEY CAN'T COME TO HANNAH. ANOTHER 180 PIECES OF KWEMENTS. WE HAVE REDUCEDED THAT FROM 20 DAYS TO 10 DAYS. SHARING OFFICE SPACE WITH MOBILITY. SO AT NO POINT WERE WE JUST TRYING TO PASS ON COSTS. WE HAVE VALUE ENGINEERED. AND ACHIEVED SAVINGS IN MANY AREAS JUST TRYING TO KEEP THE COST REALISTIC, BUTTIER NOT EXEMPT WHAT IS GOING ON IN THE WORLD AND THIS IS TRULY WHERE WE ARE TODAY. >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU. SOUNDS LIKE THE SCOPE OF WORK HAS CHANGED QUITE A BIT. SO I'M ACTUALLY GOING TO ASK THAT YOU MEET WITH EACH OF US INDIVIDUALLY TO BRIEF US ON THIS PROJECT AND BRING IT BACK TO US. THIS IS JUST -- I DON'T -- I AM NOT -- I AM NOT OKAY WITH APPROVING THIS RIGHT NOW. I AM ALSO GOING TO ASK FINANCE GROUP TO FIND OUT WHAT WE CAN TO DO NOT BOND THIS, BECAUSE I AM NOT GOING TO BOND $7 MILLION MORE DOLLARS -- I MEAN FOR ME. I AM SPEAKING FOR ME. I REALLY BELIEVE WE NEED TO STICK WITHIN THE BUDGET WE HAD. I AM SORRY IT TOOK SO LONG TO GET TO THIS POINT, BUT, I MEAN, THE SCOPE OF WORK OBVIOUSLY HAS BEEN REDUCED. SO THEN I AM ALSO CONCERNED OF GROWING INTO IT. SO PERSONALLY, HE WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE THIS UNTIL WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO TALK TO EACH COUNCIL MEMBER SEPARATELY FOR A BRIEFING. HOW IS APRIL 16 FOR EVERYBODY? >>ADRIANA COLINA: CAN I JUST SAY ONE MORE THING? WHEN THE GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE WAS RECEIVED. THAT WAS IN DECEMBER OF 2025. THAT PRICE IS GOOD FOR 60s DAYS. WHEN WE LOOK AT THE HOLIDAYS AND WE LOOK -- WE WERE ABLE TO GET ON THE CALENDAR. THIS IS WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW. AND WE ARE ALREADY OUTSIDE OF THE TIME. WE DID SPEAK WITH AP MORGAN AND THEY WERE WILLING TO HOLD WITH THAT PRICE AND THEY TOLD US THAT COPPER HAS INCREASED. JUST FROM LAST WEEK, FUEL PRICES HAVE GONE UP $.27 A GALLON. THE NUMBER WILL CONTINUE TO GO UP. SCOPE HAS NOT CHANGED, I CAN TELL YOU THAT. WE HAVE VALUE ENGINEERED AND HAPPENS ON ALL PROJECTS JUST TO KEEP IT -- JUST TO KEEP THE COST DOWN. BUT THE SCOPE WAS TO HOUSE FLEET AND TO WORK ON FLEET. SCOPE WAS FOR MOBILITY STORAGE. SCOPE WAS FOR HR TRAINING AND THAT ALL HAS NOT CHANGED. I AM HAPPY TO TALK TO YOU LATER ABOUT YOU I WANT TO GO ON RECORD AND LET EVERYBODY UNDERSTAND WE ARE NOT LOOKING AT $16.3 MILLION, IT WILL IT WILL BE MORE. >>LYNN HURTAK: $18.4 MILLION. >>ADRIANA COLINA: THE TOTAL COST. WE DID THE DESIGN. THAT IS ALREADY PAID FOR $16 MILLION IS THE BIGGEST CHUNK, $16.3 IS FOR THE CONSTRUCTION AND I WANT TO LOCK IN. $18 MILLION IN THE TOTAL PART. WE ALREADY PAID THE DESIGN PAR THIS IS JUST THE CONSTRUCTION AND THE COSTS WILL ALSO GO UP. I DON'T WANT TO COME ACROSS -- >>LYNN HURTAK: SORRY DID YOU NOT CHOOSE TO MEET WITH US TOLD US OF THIS GIANT INCREASE IN PRICE, BUT THAT -- WE CAN'T KNOW THAT. WE ARE LITERALLY WITH WHAT IS IN FRONT OF US RIGHT NOW. AND THIS IS JUST TOO MUCH OF A CHANGE. I AM NOT COMFORTABLE -- I AM NOT GOING TO APPROVE IT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ALL BUT I AM NOT GOING TO VOTE FOR THIS. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I HEAR YOUR CONCERN, COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, GENERALLY I WOULD AGREE, BUT WHAT MISS COLINA SAY EVERY DAY WE SEE IT IN THE NEWS AND OUR OWN POCKETBOOKS AND WE SEE WHEN WE GO TO PUBLIX. IN ECONOMY IS JUST TERRIBLE. I THINK THE POINT IS. THIS IS THE COST AND WE APPROVE THE DESIGN-BUILD AS OPPOSED TO AN RFP. IF THIS IS THE COST. THIS IS THE COST. THE CHOICE IS, DO WE NEED THIS OR NOT NEED THIS. BECAUSE -- >>LYNN HURTAK: ADMINISTRATION BELIEVES WE NEED EVERYTHING. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MY QUESTION TO COUNCIL AND TO YOU. IF YOU DON'T FEEL LIKE WE NEED THE FLEET MAINTENANCE DECENTRALIZATION PROCESS AND WE DON'T NEED THE SERVICES PROVIDED BY THIS ASSET, I THINK THE VOTE WOULD BE CLEAR. THEN, I WOULD AGREE THAT, YEAH, THEN YOU WOULD WANT TO REJECT IT. BUT IF YOU FEEL LIKE WE ARE GOING TO NEED THOSE SERVICES, I DON'T -- ESPECIALLY WITH WHAT IS GOING ON IN THE MIDDLE EAST AND EVERYTHING ELSE, I DON'T PRICES TO GO DOWN. >>LYNN HURTAK: BUT I EXPECT THEM TO STAY WITHIN THEIR MEANS. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: AGAIN, WE DON'T CONTROL THE INTERNATIONAL MARKET. >>LYNN HURTAK: YOU DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH BONDING, BUT I DO. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I HAVE A HUGE PROBLEM WITH BONING CERTAIN THINGS. HE DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH GENERATIONAL BONDING. >>LYNN HURTAK: YOU WILL TELL ME WHAT YOU DON'T AGREE WITH BONDING FOR. GIVE ME ONE THING YOU WON'T BOND. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: AIR CONDITIONING FOR THE CONVENTION CENTER. >>LYNN HURTAK: NOT A BONDABLE ISSUE. I AM NOT SUPPORTING THIS BECAUSE THIS IS JUST WAY TOO MUCH MONEY AND I THINK THEY NEED TO BRING THE SCOPE DOWN EVEN MORE TO FIT INTO THE BUDGET THAT THEY HAVE BEEN GIVEN. SORRY, THE BUDGET THEY PROMISED THE CITIZENS. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THEN WHAT HAPPENS -- >>ADRIANA COLINA: IT WAS AN ESTIMATE. THAT IS AN IMPORTANT PART OF IT. AN ESTIMATE AND SUBJECT TO DIFFERENT CHANGES AND HERE IS WHERE WE ARE. I ALSO WANT TO REMIND EVERYONE THAT THIS IS PART OF -- WHEN WE TALK OF THE SOLID WASTE RELOCATION, THIS SITE, THE CLARK AVENUE SITE, IS PART OF THAT, BECAUSE IT IS RIGHT NEXT TO SOLID WASTE AND IT IS INCLUDED IN THAT PARCEL. SO IF WE HAVE STAY, WE HAVE TO STAY. BUT UNDERSTAND THAT IS PART OF THE PROPERTY AND THE PARCEL WE ARE TALKING ABOUT IN THAT LOCATION. >>LUIS VIERA: A QUESTION. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA. >>LUIS VIERA: I KNOW COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK IS TALKING ABOUT IN APRIL. WE ARE IN WHAT -- MARCH 5. WOULD -- WOULD A WEEK POTENTIALLY ADDRESS YOUR CONCERNS? >>LYNN HURTAK: UNFORTUNATELY, WE HAVE A COMPLETELY PACKED SCHEDULE THE NEXT REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING. WE DON'T HAVE ROOM TO PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA. >>LUIS VIERA: I FOR THE RECORD WILL BE WILLING TO WAIVE THE RULES IF MISS COLINA CAN SPEAK TO IT AGAIN. BECAUSE IF THEY HAVE THAT 60-DAY GUARANTEE STARTING IN DECEMBER, I DON'T WANT TO TEMPT FATE WITH THAT, BUT IF ANOTHER WEEK -- DO YOU THINK IF WE WERE -- HYPOTHETICALLY, IF WE WERE TO WAIVE THE RULES AND GIVE YOU A CHANCE TO MEET WITH FOLKS THAT WANT TO MEET WITH YOU IN THE NEXT WEEK, WILL THAT FURTHER PUT US AT RISK. BEYOND 60 DAYS. WILL AFTER ADDITIONAL WEEK EXPOSE US. >>ADRIANA COLINA: ANSWER IS YES. I SPOKE TO THE CONTRACTOR AND THEY SAID IT ALREADY GONE UP $55,000. AND THEY WERE WANTING TO TRY TO HOLD TO THAT, BUT COST HAD ALREADY GONE UP $55,000 WHEN I TOLD THEM WE WERE GOING ON MARCH 5. SO I WILL HAVE TO TAKE THAT FROM OUR CONTINGENCY AND AFFECTS THE PROJECT. IT IS GOING UP. THEIR COSTS ARE GOING UP. THEY ARE NOT GOING TO EAT THE COSTS. I AM HAPPY TO SPEAK WITH EACH OF YOU. I WILL COME BEFORE NEW EVERY STAGE OF THIS PROCESS. AND WE COME BEFORE YOU WITH OF THIS AS WELL. AND JUST AS SOON AS WE HAVE INFORMATION, WE WILL SHARE IT YOU WITH. BUT THE PRICE IS GOING TO GO UP UNFORTUNATELY. I -- I HAVE ALREADY TRIED. IT HAS GONE UP. >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: OKAY. SO THIS IS DECISION TIME. ITEM 67 IS A RESOLUTION. ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO READ THE RESOLUTION? WHAT'S THAT? IT IS A RESOLUTION. MOVE THE RESOLUTION. ANYBODY WANT TO MOVE THE RESOLUTION, 67. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHAT ABOUT 66. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: 66 AS WELL. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WILL MOVE THE RESOLUTION FOR 66. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO. DO WE HAVE A SECOND. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: PROVIDING -- AM I VOTING FOR PROVIDING WE GET FROM MISS COLINA'S DEPARTMENT THE HOW CHRONOLOGICALLY IT HAPPENED AND WHAT THE COSTS ARE. WAS THAT AN ESTIMATE AT THE TIME YOU DID -- WHOEVER DID THE HANDLING OF THIS. WAS IT AN ESTIMATE OR A PRICE GUARANTEE AT THAT TIME? >>ADRIANA COLINA: THE $16.3 MILLION NOW IS A GUARANTEE. IT WILL NOT EXCEEDS THAT. ESTIMATE PRIOR TO US RECEIVING THIS FROM THE CONTRACTOR DESIGN-BUILD TEAM WAS AN ESTIMATE. SO THIS IS A GUARANTEE. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THEN ELEVATE FOR IT, BUT I GOT TO KNOW THAT -- AND I AM NOT DOUBTING YOU ONE WORD, BUT JUST FOR THE RECORD, FOR THE PUBLIC, I WILL WANT THAT DONE HOW IT HAPPENED AND WHY IT HAPPENED AND SO FORTH AND SO ON. AND I WOULD JUST RECOMMEND THAT NOT ONLY IN YOUR DEPARTMENT BUT OTHER DEPARTMENTS IN THE CITIES THAT ARE DOING -- FACING THESE SAME ITEMS, INCLUDING BUYING AUTOMOBILES TO ARE WHATEVER. HE SAW TWO TRUCKS TODAY FOR $211,000 WHICH I DON'T KNOW WHAT KEEP OF TRUCKS, FORDS. OVER $100,000 NOW FOR A CAR, A PICK-UP. NONIF IT IS A FOUR TON OR WHATEVER IT IS. BUT THESE THINGS HAVE GOT TO BE MORE CLOSELY -- NOT GATHERED BUT OF WHAT YOU ARE BUYING. A CAR. WHAT KIND OF CAR? WHAT IS THE NEED FOR IT? THAT KIND OF STUFF. I THINK WE ARE ENTITLED TO THAT. THE PUBLIC IS ENTITLED TO THAT. IN FACT, IF YOU WANT TO BE LIKE ME, DON'T BUY A NEW CAR. GO TO THE AUCTION, BUY FOUR CARS, YOU GET THE FIFTH ONE FREE. THAT IS HOW I DO IT BUT I DON'T RUN THE CITY. I AM NOT AFRAID OF AT THAT IGGING A CAR WITH 8,000 OR 10,000 MILES ON IT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. >>MARTIN SHELBY: I KNOW WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA IS REQUESTING. BUT ONCE YOU APPROVE THIS YOU AUTHORIZE THE MAYOR TO SIGN IT AND NO GOING BACK. IRRESPECTIVE OF WHAT YOU LEARN, GAIN OR HEAR AFTER THIS VOTE, IF YOU CHOOSE TO VOTE FOR IT TODAY, THEN -- THEN YOU LOSE -- THEN YOU LOSE JURISDICTION. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT IS THE EXPENDITURE BUT THE BONDING IS NOT. >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE BONDING IS NOT. ULTIMATELY IF YOU WERE PRESENTED WITH THAT ISSUE, YOU WILL HAVE TO ADDRESS THAT. >>LYNN HURTAK: WE WILL HAVE TO BOND THAT BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ANY MORE MONEY. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. >>LYNN HURTAK: OBVIOUSLY THIS WILL PASS AND I AM INCREDIBLY DISAPPOINTED, BUT WHY DID IT TAKE YOU UNTIL NOW? WHY DIDN'T YOU MEET WITH EACH OF US RIGHT AFTER DECEMBER 11 ONCE YOU GOT IT. I MEAN, I AM HOLDING THIS PROJECT, THIS DESIGN-BUILD PROJECT. WHY DIDN'T YOU COME TO US AND INDIVIDUALLY BRIEF US ON THE INCREASE? >>ADRIANA COLINA: MY APOLOGIES. AGAIN, IT WASN'T AN INCREASE. IT WAS AN ESTIMATE THAT WE WERE WORKING WITH PRIOR. AND I DO HAD A BRIEFING WITH YOU YESTERDAY OR THE DAY BEFORE WHATEVER IT WAS AND I DID BRING IT UP AT THAT TIME. AND I DID NOT DO INDIVIDUAL BRIEFINGS. IT IS NOT WHAT I HAVE DONE BECAUSE IT HAS NOT COME UP TO BE AN ISSUE DURING THE GREAT EIGHT UPDATES. I CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT MOVING FORWARD, IF YOU WOULD LIKE. >>LYNN HURTAK: YES, I WOULD. BECAUSE, AGAIN, THIS CAME OUT IN DECEMBER. YOU HAD PLENTY OF TIME TO TELL US ABOUT IT, TO GET ANY FEEDBACK, AND TO SHARE WHAT YOU HAVE DONE. I REALLY SHOULDN'T FROM TO WAIT -- AND I DID TALK ABOUT IT DURING MY BRIEFING. AND I DID ASK WHERE IS THE MONEY COMING FROM AND I DIDN'T GET THAT FEEDBACK UNTIL 10:30 LAST NIGHT. THEREFORE, HE DIDN'T SEE IT UNTIL THIS MORNING, WHICH MEANS I DIDN'T KNOW WE WERE GOING TO HAVE TO $7 MILLION MORE DOLLARS TO MAKE THIS WORK. THAT IS MY ISSUE. THANK YOU. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WELL, AGAIN -- COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I HEARD THE WORD "BONDING" FOUR OR FIVE TIMES FROM DIFFERENT INDIVIDUALS. YOU ARE DAMNED IF YOU DO, AND DAMNED IF YOU DON'T AND LET ME TELL YOU WHY. YOU BOND FOR 30 YEARS, STAYS AT INTEREST RATE AT THE SAME RATE. DO YOU THIS I THAT MONEY WILL BE STAY AT THE SAME INTEREST RATE FOR 30 YEARS. MAYBE OR MAYBE NOT. WHAT DOES IT COST YOU IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE MONEY AND BOND IT. SAME PRODUCT 30 YEARS FROM NOW COULD COST YOU MORE WHAT YOU WILL LOSE AND MAKE IN BONDING. PRICES ARE GOING TO GO UP. A GALLON OF MILK WHEN I WAS A KID WAS A QUARTER. NOW $4 OR $5 DEPENDING ON WHERE YOU GO. IS THE SALARY THE SAME, NO. 30 YEARS FROM NOW WHEN YOU BUY SOMETHING, PAY FOR IT AT THE END OF 30 YEARS. YOU DON'T PLAY ITS INFLATIONARY AID, LIKE WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT ON THIS ITEM. THIS PEN -- FELT PEN WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT IN 30 YEARS WILL COST MORE MORE THAN DOUBLE THAN WHAT IT COSTS TODAY. IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE ME, LOOK AT THE MARKET PRICE OF EVERYTHING. IT IS WHAT IT IS. I AM NOT FOR BONDING OR AGAINST BONDING. BUT I LOOK AT IT, WHEN I BORROW MONEY, I WILL PAY IT OFF AND MY PRODUCT WILL WORTH DOUBLE OF WHAT I PAY FOR. THAT IS WHAT I DO. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MISS COLINA, CAN YOU EXPLAIN FOR MY CLARIFICATION WHAT ARE THE CONSEQUENCES TO THE CITY? IF WE CHOSE NOT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS PROJECT. JUST PERIOD. NOT MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PROJECT, WHAT NEGATIVE CONSEQUENCES WILL RESULT FROM THAT DECISION? >>ADRIANA COLINA: SO, AGAIN, AS PART OF THE PROPERTY ATTACHED TO THE SPRUCE STREET, THE SOLID WASTE RELOCATION PROJECT. SO THAT FOOTPRINT THERE WILL BE REDUCED SIGNIFICANTLY. AND THEN THE BUILDING THAT THE TEAM IS CURRENTLY SERVICING OUR HEAVY EQUIPMENT OUT OF RIGHT NOW WAS BUILT IN 1977. AND I AM NOT SURE IF ANY OF YOU HAVE BEEN THERE, IT NEEDS SIGNIFICANT WORK FOR THEM TO CONTINUE OPERATING OUT OF THAT. IT IS VERY OUTDATED. SOME THAT WILL BE A COST AS WELL. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SO WE WON'T ABLE TO GET ROI AND THE RETURN ON THE PROPERTY WE ARE COUNTING ON PRO SPRUCE. AND WE WILL HAVE TO REINVEST IN THAT BUILDING. OKAY, THAT'S GOOD. COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. >>LYNN HURTAK: I WOULD LOVE TO BE ABLE TO TOUR THAT, AND WE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO DO TOURS ANYMORE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I THINK WE WILL HEAR ABOUT THAT LATER APPEAR MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO -- DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK? >>NAYA YOUNG: I JUST -- I JUST WANTED TO SAY BECAUSE I -- I UNDERSTAND WATCH COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK IS -- HER CONCERNS WITH THIS. AND I THINK -- MAYBE THIS IS A MOTION OR A CONVERSATION THAT WE NEED TO HAVE AS A COUNCIL MOVING FORWARD, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I HAVE BEEN NOTICING THAT WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, PRICES AND THINGS THAT GO UP. AND A LOT OF THAT ISSA CONTRIBUTED TO COST OF THINGS GOING UP BECAUSE OF TARIFFS OR WHATEVER IS HAPPENING INTERNATIONALLY. SO, AGAIN I DON'T KNOW WHAT -- IF IT IS A BIGGER -- A BROADER DISCUSSION THAT WE NEED TO HAVE. MAYBE IS SOME OF OUR LARGER SCALE PROJECT REASON IS LITTLE BIT MORE TRANSPARENCY WITH ADMINISTRATION WHEN THEY SEE THAT THERE IS A POSSIBILITY THAT SOMETHING IS GOING TO GO UP DUE TO -- YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT IS HAPPENING INTERNATIONAL SO WE KNOW AND THAT WE CAN BE A LITTLE MORE, YOU KNOW, FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE. BECAUSE, I MEAN, I, MYSELF, I DON'T LIKE TO HAVE ANY DEBT EITHER. I KNOW THAT IS DEFINITELY AT THE TOPIC OF CONVERSATION. AND I ALSO UNDERSTAND WITH MISS COLINA WHAT THE PROJECTS ARE. I SEE BOTH SIDES, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US MAYBE JUST IN THE FUTURE IF WE SEE THERE IS GOING TO BE PRICE ESCALATIONS BECAUSE OF WHAT IS HAPPENING TO JUST KINDS OF LET'S US KNOW SO WE CAN KIND OF STAY INFORMED AS WELL. SO I WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I THINK RISK RESTATE WHAT MISS COLINA SAID IN PRETTY MUCH ALL YOU HAVE OUR PROJECTS THAT WE PAY ATTENTION TO THE VERBIAGE AND THE ESTIMATES AND THE CROSS MAXIMUM PRICE THAT COME OUT OF THESE THINGS. UNTIL THE GROSS MAXIMUM PRICE NUMBER COMES OUT, EVERYTHING IS ON TABLE AND INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT WITH THESE PROJECTS AND WHERE WE ARE AT RIGHT NOW. HAVE THE SOUTH HOWARD FLOOD PROJECT COMING UP. WE DON'T HAVE A GROSS MAXIMUM PRICE ON THAT. WE SCREEN ALL THE DETAILS YET AND THE FIGURES WORE, IF THEY WORK AND IF THEY DON'T. PIVOTAL ON THAT. FINAL DOCUMENT THAT GET ON THE HAND AND FINAL I THAT DOTTED AND THE T THAT IS CROSSED. GROSS MAXIMUM PRICE DOESN'T COME OUT UNTIL THE END. YES MA'AM? >>LYNN HURTAK: I WILL SAYS IT PROBABLY TIME WE SEE HOW MANY MORE PROJECTS WE REALLY CAN HANDLE. BECAUSE THAT -- THAT IS WHY WE TALKED ABOUT THE CIP. WHY WE TALKED OF BONDING ON TUESDAY. AND IT IS -- IT'S GOING TO GET NOTHING BUT WORSE. AND WE ARE CONSIDERING THAT PROPERTY TAX DECREASE THAT IS HAPPENING. WE CAN'T -- YEAH. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: OKAY. A MOTION AND A SECOND. ROLL CALL, PLEASE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES. >>LYNN HURTAK: NO. >>NAYA YOUNG: YES. >>LUIS VIERA: YES. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES. >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH HURTAK VOTING NO AND CARLSON BEING ABSENT AT VOTE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHO WANTS TO MOVE ITEM 67. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO MOVED. >>LUIS VIERA: SECOND. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: DO ROLL CALL. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES. >>LYNN HURTAK: NO. >>NAYA YOUNG: YES. >>LUIS VIERA: YES. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES. >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH HURTAK VOTE NOTHING AND CARLSON BEING ABSENT AT VOTE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: VERY GOOD. THANK YOU SO MUCH. WE ARE NOW MOVING TO ITEM 69. >>LUIS VIERA: MAY I ASK A QUESTION. I WASN'T HERE. ON ITEM -- WHERE WAS IT? THE PUBLIC SAFETY MASTER PLAN. WAS THAT CONTINUED TO MARCH 26? >>LYNN HURTAK: YES, YOU ASKED FOR IT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE DID WHAT YOU ASKED US TO DO. >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, GUYS. I APPRECIATE YOU. GOOD MORNING OR GOOD AFTERNOON. >> GOOD AFTERNOON. ASSISTANT CHIEF RUTH CATE OF THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT. AND RICHARD MUTTERBACK FROM C.A.D. AND JOHN FROM WILDER ARCHITECT TO UPDATE YOU ON THIS PROJECT. LAST TIME WE WERE HERE IN COUNCIL, WE REPORTED WE WERE IN THE PERMITTING PHASE AND THAT WE WERE FINISHING UP AND READY TO GO TO BID WITH THIS PROJECT. SINCE THEN WE HAVE PUT IT OUT TO BID AND WE HAVE THREE CONTRACTORS THAT HAVE BID -- THERE WE GO. -- THAT HAVE BID ON THIS PROJECT SO WE HAVE COLLECTED COCOLAKIS TO TAKE THIS CONTRACT ON OUR BEHALF. AND WE HOPE THAT COUNCIL WILL AGREE WITH US AND AWARD THE CONTRACT TO THEM. SO AS YOU MAY KNOW THIS STARTED OUT AS DESIGN-BUILD AND WENT OUT. WE HAVE ACTUALLY TWO FUNDING POINTS FOR THIS, TWO POCKETS OF MONEY. WE ARE SO EXCITED THAT HAS COME BACK WITH CONSIDERABLY LOWER THAN WHAT WE EXPECTED IT TO BE AND WE ARE READY TO GO TO WORK ON THIS PROJECT. SO YOU WANT TO GIVE SOME OF COSTS? OKAY. SO WHAT ARE THE COSTS? I THINK THAT IS WHAT EVERYBODY IS MOST CONCERNED ABOUT. SO BACK IN 2016, THIS -- THERE WAS A BANKNOTE THAT CAME TO US IN ABOUT A $2.6 MILLION THAT CAME FROM SOLID WASTE. KNOW WE ARE SEEING A LOT OF THE WORK COME FROM THE PROJECT THAT IS ON 34th STREET INVOLVING THE WASTEWATER ENERGY WITH SOLID WASTE. TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT WAS DISPLACED BECAUSE OF THAT. THAT IS WHY WE HAVE THIS PROJECT. WE WERE -- WE HAVE PROPERTY PURCHASE FOR US 5005 NORTH HOWARD. BETWEEN THE PURCHASE OF THE PROPERTY AND THE DESIGN, WE HAVE SPENT APPROXIMATELY $7 MILLION THUS FAR. WE ARE ASKING FOR THE COMPLETION OF PROJECT TO BE DONE. WE WILL ONLY NEED ABOUT $29 MILLION MORE WHICH IS CONSIDERABLY LEFT. AND COCOLAKIS CAME DOWN AT 21 MILLION. WHAT WE NEED FOR COMMITTED THINGS LIKE FURNITURE AND THE TMI INFRASTRUCTURE WILL ACCOUNT FOR REMAINING $7 MILLION THAT BRINGS US UP TO $29 MILLION. PLUS THE 3% CONTINGENCY THAT WE NEED IN CASE OF ANY UNFORESEEN COSTS. THAT'S WHERE WE ARE AT WITH THIS PROJECT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA, YOUR LIGHT IS ON. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: STOP AND GO WITH THE CAR BUT I AM NOT WITH THE CAR. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO. THEN COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WITHOUT ANY HICCUPS, HOW LONG TO DO CONSTRUCTION AND HOW LONG WILL IT TAKE. >> BRING IT BACK TO COUNCIL APRIL 2 FOR THE FIRST READING AND COME BACK ON THE 16th AND START SHOVELING THE NEXT DAY. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO YOU HAVE A COMPLETED -- AN ESTIMATED COMPLETION DATE OR NO? >> PHASE IN THIS PROJECT BUT APPROXIMATELY 18 MONTHS TO FINISH THE BUILDING. TMI INFRASTRUCTURE AND THE FINISHING OF POND MAY TAKE UP TO SIX MONTHS LONGER AND NOT MUCH MORE. THAT IS JUST A LITTLE BIT. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: RIBBON CUTTING IN 18 MONTHS AFTER YOU BEGIN CONSTRUCTION? >> YES. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PRICES YOU ARE SHOWING. CRABCOCOLAKI AT 21.7 MILLION AND ADDITIONAL $7 MILLION. >> YES. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: EVERYTHING. NO EXTRA COSTS OR EXTRA SURPRISES FURTHER BEYOND THAT? >> NO. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE OR STEM. WILL WE HAVE THE SAME DISCUSSION LIKE BEFORE WHERE THERE IS A BUDGET RESOLUTION WHERE WE NEED ANOTHER $5 MILLION OR $10 MILLION, ANYTHING LIKE THAT? >>RICHARD MUTTERBACK: RICHARD MUTTERBACK, DIRECTOR OF CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION. THIS IS NOT A GMP BECAUSE THAT IS A DESIGN-BUILD. THIS WAS AS HARD BID SPECIFICATION PUT OUT ADVERTISED AND THESE THREE CONTRACTORS CAME BACK WITH THESE PRICES. THIS ORDER TO MAKE ANY CHANGES, THEY WILL HAVE TO DO A CHANGE ORDER IN ORDER TO ADD ANYTHING TO THIS. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY. WHAT ABOUT THE RENT THAT WE ARE PEAKING TO, I BELIEVE, IT IS CROCKETT'S? $10D,000 A MONTH. WHAT HAPPENS NOW THAT IT IS NOT AN IMPOUND LOT AND THE CHANGES THAT COME IN? >> I SPOKE TO OUR LEGAL COUNCIL MIKE SCMID ON THAT SEVERAL TIMES. WE WILL STILL NEED TO OCCASIONALLY IMPOUND CARS.ANY BILLS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS WILL HAVE TO BE PLAYED TO CROCUS BUT WE WILL NOT OCCUPY THE PROPERTY WITH PEOPLE HERE. OUR EMPLOYEES WILL ALL COME OVER TO THE NEW LOCATION AND THROUGH ATTRITION, WE WILL PROBABLY NOT NEED AS MANY EMPLOYEES. I KNOW WE WON'T, BUT SO WE WILL BE ABLE TO HAVE LESS EMPLOYEES. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ORIGINAL IDEA OF IMPOUND LOT WILL THE NO BE THERE. ON A SMALLER SCALE. YOU CAN DO IT BUT NOT THE IMPOUND LOT. >> YES, THAT'S CORRECT. I CAN GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE. OUR CRIME WORKED SOME PROSTITUTION STINGS. WE CAN IMPOUND THOSE CARS. $500 OF THE CITY ORDINANCE IS WHAT WE COLLECT. WE CAN NOW -- WHAT THEY HAVE DONE IS THEY COME PLAY US. THE LIEN WE HAVE ON THE CAR, THE ITS $500. THEY PLAY CROCK KEPT'S. WE ARE NOT HOUSING THOSE CARS. WE DON'T HAVE TO DO THAT ANYMORE AND SAFE A LOT OF SPACE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SINCE YOU ARE SAVING A LOT OF SPACE. HE KNOW TREES WOULD BE REMOVED. ARE THOSE TREES GOING TO BE PRESERVED? IS IT TOO EARLY TO ASK? >> NOT TOO EARLY TO ASK. ACTUALLY TWO PARCEL OF LAND. ORIGINAL IMPOUND LOT WAS ABOUT FOUR ACRES. THIS OVERALL THE TWO PARCELS ARE EIGHT ACRES. NORTHERN PART IS ALMOST FOUR ACRES. WET NOT DES TUSH THOSE TREES. THERE ARE SOME TREES. WE HAD AN ARBORIST COME OUT FOR OUR PARKING LOT AND THE POND. THERE WILL BE SOME TREES REMOVED, BUT THE MAJORITY OF THE TREES WILL STAY. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY. LAST QUESTION REGARDING STORMWATER. WILL -- ARE YOU -- THE WAY IT WILL BE BUILT, DOES THAT -- DOES THE STORMWATER INVESTMENTS THAT WE ARE MAKING IS THAT ENOUGH TO HANDLE WHAT WE NEED FOR -- YOU ARE TALKING EIGHT ACRES. I MEAN, IS IT GOING TO BE SUFFICIENT? >> YES, IT IS ENOUGH. THAT STORMWATER POND GOES ALL THE WAY NORTH INTO THE OTHER PART OF THE LAND. AND IF WE DOE AT A LATER DATE DECIDE WE WANT TO DEVELOP THAT, IT WILL ACCOMMODATE THAT. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >>LYNN HURTAK: I WAS NEXT. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I YIELD TO THE FORMER -- >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HE HAD HIS LIGHT ON. THOUGHT HE CHANGED HIS MIND. OPINION. >>LYNN HURTAK: SORE HOW WILL THE 30 PAVED LARGE PARKING SPOTS BE USED? >> THOSE ARE TANDEM SPACES. WE WILL USE THOSE FOR OUR LARGE VEHICLES LIKE OUR -- OUR COMMAND POST AND SOME OF THE LARGER VIKES THAT WE HAVE, OUR HOSTAGE NEXT VAN. WE ALSO WILL USE THEM FOR ANY HIGH VALUED VEHICLES THAT WE HAVE TO STORE THEIR ARE USED -- FOR EVIDENTIARY PURPOSES. THOSE SPACES ARE VERY LARGE. NORMAL PARKING SPACE IS ABOUT NINE FEET WIDE AND THAT IS WHAT THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO BE. BUT ARE REALITY, WE CAN SQUEEZE A LOT INTO THOSE. BECAUSE WHATEVER WE PUT THERE WON'T WEATHER NOT HAVE TO BE MOVED FOR EVIDENCE REASON, BUT IT WON'T BE FOR -- FOR THE IMPOUNDING OF, LIKE, ITS PROSTITUTION CARS OR THE -- OR THE CARS THAT WE TAKE FOR PARK DIG VISION BECAUSE THEY WERE BOOTED AND OWE US SO AS MUCH MONEY. THAT IS THE MAJORITY OF THE CARS WE HAVE, BUT ONCE STATE ATTORNEY SAYS THERE IS NO MORE VALUE IN HOLDING THIS CAR AS EVIDENCE, WE WILL MOVE THAT OVER TO IS A PRIVATE VENDOR. >>LYNN HURTAK: HOW WILL BE NEW ENCLOSED GARAGE SPACE BE UTILIZED OUTSIDE OF THE TWO VEHICLE EVIDENCE BAYS. >> THREE EVIDENCE BAYS. TWO WILL HAVE LIFTS. THOSE ARE TO PROCESS THE CARS. AND THEN WE DON'T HAVE ANY LIFTS RIGHT NOW. WE FORMALLY HAD LIFTS ON 34th STREET BUT A LIFT TO BRING THE CAR UP FOR PROCESSING OF THE EVIDENCE AND LOOKING TO SEE WHERE THEY HAVE CONCEALED IT, ANYTHING THAT IS INSIDE OF THERE. EXAMINE THE CAR. ADDITIONAL GARAGE SPACE IS USED WHICH WE USE NOW IN OUR POLICE GARAGE THAT TAKES A LOT OF ROOMS. OUR FORENSIC VANS. A LOT OF DENSIITY EQUIPMENT IN THERE THAT CAN'T BE EXPOSED TO LIGHT. AND THEN WHEN THE FOR REN SICK TECHNICIANS RETURN AND WE DON'T WANT THEM CARRYING THE EVIDENCE INTO IF THE RAIN. IT WILLING UNDERCOVER LIKE THEY ARE NOW WITH HEADQUARTERS. >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY. GOING ON WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO ASKED. AN IMPOUND LOT WILL NO LONGER BE ON THIS SITE. HOW MUCH SPACE IS AVAILABLE TO BUILD ON THAT SPACE THAT WAS DEDICATED -- THAT WAS ORIGINALLY DEDICATED TO THE IMPOUND LOT. IF YOU WANT TO BUILD SOMETHING ELSE IN THE FUTURE, HOW MUCH MORE LAND IS AVAILABLE FOR THAT? >> THE PROPERTY NORTH OF THERE WHICH IS FOUR ACRES AND ALL THE TREES. >>LYNN HURTAK: YOU SAID SOME OF THAT IS FOR STORMWATER, BUT HOW MUCH IS LEFT, TREES OR NO TREES. >> I WOULD HAVE TO GET SOMEONE TO GO OUT THERE WITH ME TOE DO AN EXACT MEASUREMENT FOR YOU, BUT WHOLE PARCEL UP THERE IS FOUR ACRES. MAYBE -- I DON'T THINK THAT STORMWATER POSSIBLE ON THE NORTH PART TAKES UP MORE THAN HALF THE ACRE. >>LYNN HURTAK: THREE AND A HALF ACRES TO BUILD. >> THREE AND A HALF TO FOUR ACRES. >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT IS FINE. AND COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO ALREADY ASKED ABOUT THE STORMWATER. WHAT YOU ARE SAYING IS THAT THE STORMWATER COULD ACCOMMODATE THE BUILDING THAT WE ARE BUILDING, PLUS THE -- ANYTHING WE BUILT ON THE THREE AND A HALF ACRES? >> ABSOLUTELY. BUILT TO ACCOMMODATE AND SHOULD WE BUILD IN THE FUTURE ON THE THREE AND A HALF ACRES. >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY. SO IT IS BIG ENOUGH. >> YES. >>LYNN HURTAK: SO YOU ARE SAYING WE ARE STILL GOING TO BE RENTING -- WE ARE STILL GOING TO BE RENTING FROM CROCKETT'S. HOW MUCH ARE WE EXPECTING. BECAUSE RIGHT NOW $10,000 A MONTH. WHAT ARE WE EXPECTING IT TO BE IN THE FUTURE? >> DEPENDS ON HOW MANY CRIMES ARE COMMITTED, WHAT THE AVERAGE TOW BILL IS AT THE TIME. WE ROUGHLY -- BEING AT CROCKETT'S IS COST NEUTRAL TO US BECAUSE OUR AVERAGE BILL FOR A TOW TRUCK AND EVERYTHING IS UP TO ABOUT $10,000, I'M TOLD BY MR. SCHMID. >>LYNN HURTAK: I DON'T UNDERSTAND. PAYING $150,000 A MONTH AND THE WHOLE POINTS SO WE WEREN'T PAYING $1500,000 A MONTH. HOW ARE WE GOING TO STOP PAYING OTHER PEOPLE TO HOLD STUFF. IF WE ARE PUTTING ALL OUR MONEY TO BE PAYING INTO THIS, WE SHOULDN'T HAVE TO BE PAYING ANY IMPOUNL F-- EMPOUND FEES ANY MORE. >> TURN IT OVER TO THE TOE ST-- THE TOW TRUCK COMPANY AND. IT IS $10,000 BECAUSE WE ARE HOLDING THE CARS. >>LYNN HURTAK: AT CROCKETT'S. >> HOLDING THE CARS AT CROCKETT'S. IF THERE IS A CAR WE HAVE TO HOLD, MAYBE IT IS THE PARKING DIVISION THIS CAR HAS $14,000 WORTH OF PARKING CITATIONS AND WE ARE HOLDING THAT CAR UNTIL THEY PAY IT OFF. THEN WE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT BILL. AND MAYBE IF THEY NEVER PAY IT OFF, THEN WE GO WITH FORFEITURE AND GET OUR MONEY BACK. >>LYNN HURTAK: I WOULD LOVE WHEN YOU BRING BACK THE FINAL, IF YOU COULD KIND OF WORK TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT PROJECTION WOULD BE MONTHLY. THERE HAS TO BE A WAY TO PROJECT WHAT YOU ANTICIPATE SPENDING ON THAT. SO I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW WHAT THE DEPARTMENT ANTICIPATES, BECAUSE YOU CAN PROJECT HOW MANY CARS YOU CAN HOLD WITHIN A YEAR. HOW WE GOT TO THIS 10,000 NUMBER TO BEGIN WITH KNOWING HOW MUCH LAND WE NEEDED. SO I WOULD LOVE A PROJECTION. OBVIOUSLY IT WILL NOT BE PERFECT, BUT A PROJECTION WHAT WE PLAN TO SPEND PER MONTH. >> WE CAN DO OUR BEST. I CAN TELL YOU THAT TWO MONDAYS AGO WE HAD 60 CARS. THEN THEY DID A PROSTITUTION STING AND WE HAVE 100 CARS AND GETTING RID OF THEM. WE DON'T HAVE MONTHS LIKE THAT. SOME THERE WILL BE -- YEAH, IT DEPENDS, YOU KNOW, CRIME IS DOWN. SO HOPEFULLY THOSE COSTS CONTINUE TO GO DOWN. >>LYNN HURTAK: MAYBE JUST LOOK AT THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS. SEE HOW IT HAS GONE AND SEE WHAT WE MIGHT. BECAUSE, AGAIN THERE ARE JUST GOES TOWARD WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO. I APPRECIATE THAT. SO WILDER ARCHITECTURE IS SERVING AS HAD THE PROJECT MANAGER. WHY ARE WE USING A ARCHITECT AS A PROJECT MANAGER? >> WELL JEFFREY -- BLESS HIS HEART, JEFFREY WILSON IS NOT HERE WITH US ANYMORE. WHEN THIS PROJECT WAS FIRST DONE UNDER LOGISTIC ASSET MANAGEMENT. I AM A POLICE OFFICER AROUND CAN GIVE YOU A KILO OF COCAINE ON A REVERSE CASE AND ARREST THAT JOHN, BUT I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW THIS BUILD A PROJECT. SO I DEFER TO MY EXPERT HERE, MR. -- WELL, WILDER, MR. THOMPSON. AN HE TELLS ME THIS IS WHAT -- CHIEF KATE THIS IS WHAT YOU SHOULD DO. THIS IS THE BEST PRACTICES. THIS IS -- WE ARE ON LINE HERE. >>LYNN HURTAK: I AM JUST CURIOUS. >>RICHARD MUTTERBACK: WHEN WE PUT THIS OUT HERE FOR PROJECT MANAGER, I MEAN, IT GOES OUT TO OUR ARCHITECTURE AND ENGINEERING FIRMS WHO DO -- AND -- >>LYNN HURTAK: THEY WERE CHOSEN? >>RICHARD MUTTERBACK: YES, HAVE THE AVAILABILITY, YES. >>LYNN HURTAK: WE FUNDS OUT -- HEARD FROM PUBLIC COMMENT OF THE NEW BARRIERS THAT WERE PURCHASED OR WERE PURCHASING, THE 60 NEW BIG, HEAVY BARRIERS. SO I ASKED WHERE ARE WE GOING TO STORE THESE? I WAS TOLD THEY WILL BE STORED HERE AT IN NEW HOWARD AVENUE SITE. WHERE? WHERE WHERE WE GOING TO STORE STUFF LIKE THAT? >> I THINK THAT IS ON EIGHT TRAILERS AND WE CAN ACCOMMODATE THAT. >>LYNN HURTAK: PART OF THE 30 PAVED LARGE PARKING SPOTS. >> YES. RIGHT NOW THEY ARE BEING STORED NEAR -- AT THE TRAINING FACILITY. >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY. ONE LAST QUESTION ABOUT THE NUMBERS AGAIN. SO IT IS $ 21.7 MILLION TO BUILD. $7 MILLION SPENT FOR LAND AND DESIGN. >> YES. >>LYNN HURTAK: TOTAL IS $27 MILLION -- OR $29S MILLION. THAT'S IT. ALL WE ARE SPENDING? >> NO, WHAT WE NEED TO FINISH THE PROJECT IS $29 MILLION. WE SPENT $7 MILLION SO FAR, BUT, REMEMBER, THERE IS PART OF THE PROJECT THAT IS THE OWNER FEES THAT WE WILL BE PAYING, LIKE THE ALLOWANCE FOR FURNITURE. MOVING THE FURNITURE. RELOCATION OF EVIDENCE. WE DO HAVE TO WORK WITH THE BICYCLE STORAGE, PERMITTING FEES AND THE TNI. THAT DOESN'T GO UNDER COCOLAKI'S PART. SO THAT IS -- >>LYNN HURTAK: WHAT WE ARE SAYING, HOW MUCH IS THAT THEN? >> PROJECTED TO BE BEEN $7 MILLION. >>LYNN HURTAK: SO $21.8 MILLION PLUS $7 MILLION, PLUS $7 MILLION. >> YES. >>LYNN HURTAK: AND THAT'S PRETTY MUCH THE $40 MILLION WE HAVE PROJECTED. >> RIGHT AROUND $35 MILLION. >>LYNN HURTAK: WE ONLY GOT $5 MILLION OFF OF THIS? >> NO, TOTAL WE HAD TWO -- WE HAD TWO PROJECTS. WE HAD DESIGN-BUILD. AND NOW WE PUT IT OUT. SO IN ORDER FOR IT TO BE BUILT, WE WERE ASKING FOR THE $40 MILLION FOR IT TO BE BUILT. WE ALREADY HAVE ENCUMBERED THE MONEY FOR WHAT HE WE HAVE DONE SO FAR. SO YOU WILL BE GETTING BACK -- A LITTLE -- $11.6 MILLION. >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT'S RIGHT, MR. PERRY STARTED AT A TOTAL $48 MILLION. >>MICHAEL PERRY: THAT'S CORRECT, MIKE PERRY, REVENUE AND FINANCE. $48 MILLION PROJECT. WE ARE COMING IN DOING LAST-MINUTE RECONCILIATIONS WITH ITEMS TO BE BOUGHT BY THE CITY, ETC. SO WE ESTIMATE THAT THE TOTAL PROJECT WILL BE BETWEEN ABOUT $33 MILLION TO $36 MILLION. SO WHEN WE COME BACK TO YOU, WITH THE GMP, WE WILL HAVE ALL THOSE NUMBERS FINALIZED. GOOD THING IS -- WELL, WE WILL ACTUALLY PRESENT YOU A FINANCIAL RESOLUTION TO REDUCES THE BUDGET TO THE PROJECT TO ANSWER MR. MANISCALCO'S QUESTION. >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT'S GREAT. BRINGING THIS BACK IN APRIL? >>MICHAEL PERRY: WHENEVER YOU APPROVE THE GMP. WE WILL HAVE THE FINANCIAL RESOLUTION WITH THAT. >>LYNN HURTAK: WHEN DO YOU EXPECT TO GET THE GMP? >>RICHARD MUTTERBACK: AGAIN, NO GMP. THIS IS BID. COCOLAKIS IS THE FIRM. WAITING FOR US TO AWARD THIS PROBABLY. BY ORDINANCE WE HAVE TO BRING IT TWICE 14 DAYS IN BETWEEN. SECOND MEETING THIS MONTH BEING THE 26th, THEN APRIL 2, NOT 14 DAYS IN BETWEEN THAT AND MAY BE SOME SCHEDULING CONFLICT SO WE ORIGINALLY PLANNED TO BRING IT ON THE 26, BUT THE SECOND READING FOR THE ACTUAL AWARD ON APRIL 16 BUT NOW APRIL 2 DUE TO SCHEDULING. >>LYNN HURTAK: WHAT YOU ARE SAYING LOOKING AT $22 MILLION FOR THE BUILD INSTEAD OF THE $40 MILLION? >>RICHARD MUTTERBACK: YES. >>LYNN HURTAK: IS THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE COMING UP TO US. NOT A GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE. JUST THE BUILD. >>RICHARD MUTTERBACK: THE BUDGET ITSELF THAT'S COME DATES THE SOFT COST. BUDGET PORTION THERE. >>LYNN HURTAK: ONLY THING I ALSO WOULD LIKE THIS SEE IS SOME SORT OF BEGAN RARITY FOR THE $7 MILLION BUILD-OUT. BECAUSE I DON'T WANT THIS PROJECT TO ENDS IN 18 MONDAYS AND YOU COME AND SAY, WELL, ACTUALLY, WE NEED 10. >> I AM HOPEFULLY GOING TO GIVE YOU MONEY BACK. SOME OF THAT MONEY ACCOUNTS FOR THE REFRIDGE RATER AND STUFF. IF WE CAN SAFELY REMOVE THOSE AND REPURPOSE THOSE, YOU WILL GET MONEY BACK. I DON'T FORESEE COMING AND SAYING I NEED $3 MILLION FOR FURNITURE OR STORAGE EQUIPMENT OR ANYTHING. THAT SHOULDN'T EVER HAPPEN. YEAH. >>LYNN HURTAK: I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE WORK YOU PUT INTO THIS. AND TO BE ABLE TO TAKE ALMOST $13 MILLION OFF WHAT WE ESTIMATED IS REALLY WONDERFUL. SO CONGRATULATIONS. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ALSO ON THE BUILDOUT, WE ARE NOT USING A CONTRACTOR FOR THAT. SO WE ARE NOT HAVING TO PAY AN OVERAGE FEE OR MANAGEMENT FEE. WE ARE DOING MUCH OF THAT OURSELVES. REFRIGERATOR AS AND WOMEN. CITY OF TAMPA PURCHASING DEPARTMENT FOR THOSE THINGS? >> YES, USING PURCHASING. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE ARE NOT HAVING TO PAY A CONTRACTOR PREMIUM BECAUSE WE HAVE IN-HOUSE PEOPLE TO DO THAT STUFF? >> CORRECT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NOT USING OUR OWN PEOPLE. COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY. I DON'T KNOW IT VERY WELL. CO-CHAIRS -- THAT CENTER FIELD OR RIGHT FIELD DID DRAIN THAT WAY AND FLOODED OVNL. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE THAT SAME PROBLEM THERE OR NOT ON THE -- ON SOUTHEASTERN PORTION ARE OF THE PROPERTY. I DON'T KNOW IF IT STILL DRAINS OR STILL STAYS WITHOUT DRAINAGE. BECAUSE LAST TIME I SAW IT, IT WAS KIND OF WET. >> I WILL HAVE TO LOOK INTO THAT. I AM NOT AWARE OF IT. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IF YOU HAVE DIFFERENT TYPES OF CARS THERE, I WOULD IMAGINE ONCE A WHILE A DOG WILL COME IN TO SNIFF SO NOTHING INSIDE THE WHEEL WELL. YOU WILL NOT TAKE A GUESS, WHATEVER MEANS YOU HAVE FOR A DOG TO SNIFF IT OUT. DIFFERENT CARS HAVE DIFFERENT CRIMES FOR DIFFERENT THINGS. AL VIEW OF CAR HAS TLOEL -- WITH WHAT IS INSIDE THE CAR. I. >> THAT'S CORRECT. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: GUARANTEE TO BUILD DOES NOT INCLUDE THINGS LIKE FURNITURE. I'M NOT INTO THAT. WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO WHEN YOU SET UP YOUR DEPARTMENT, SETTING ALL THE INTRICAT WHATEVER YOU PICK UP IN THE STREET THAT YOU HAVE YOU HAVE TO SHOW AS EVIDENCE IN THE FUTURE. YOU HAVE TO HAVE THAT AND A SPECIAL AREA LOCATED WHERE NOBODY CAN GET IN OTHER THAN THE PERSON WITH THE KEY. >> THAT'S CORRECT. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THESE ARE THINGS YOU HAVE TO DO SURE THE CASE, WHATEVER THE CASE WILL BE. ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR. ALL IN ORDER SO SOMEBODY CAN SAY I OBJECT BECAUSE OF THIS, THAT AND THE OTHER. >> YES. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THESE ARE THE THINGS WE ARE SOLVING TO GET THE CITY OF TAMPA BACK ON RECORD. ORLANDO HAS IT. WE HAVE OURS IN, WHAT, PAPER BOXES. >> CARDBOARD BOXES. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IT GETS WET, THE EVIDENCE IS GONE. IT CATCHES FEWIRE, ITS EVIDENCES GONE. TO MAKE SURE IT THAT YOUR CRIME HAS DROPPED AND YOU HAVE DONE A MAGNIFICENT JOB. KUDOS -- NOT JUST YOU BUT EVERYBODY IN THE DEPARTMENT, THE CHIEF AND THE NEW HIRES FROM YESTERDAY. THIS AT TIMES SAVE YOU A LOT OF MONEY BECAUSE YOU MUST BE RUNNING SOMETHING AND DOING SOMETHING THAT YOU ARE NOT DOING NOW AND I AM NOT PRIVY-TO-ALL THAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING HERE. >> THANK YOU. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WILL CLOSE IT UP. I HAVE BEEN A LITTLE SKEPT CALF THIS PROJECT FROM DAY ONE MOSTLY BECAUSE OF COST AND THE BUDGET IMPLICATIONS AND KNOWING WE HAVE AN IMPENDING ISSUE WITH BIG BLUE AND RELOCATION. ONE LAST QUESTION, HOW MANY EMPLOYEES AFTER THIS RELOCATION, HOW MANY EMPLOYEES A BIG BLUE. >> APPROXIMATELY 300. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WITH THAT BEING SAID, I AM MUCH MORE AGREEABLE TO THE PROJECT. AND. I KNOW IT IS FRUSTRATING FOR YOU AND EVERYBODY ELSE INVOLVED AND WE ARE TRYING TO MANAGE THE NEEDS IN THE CITY. AND IT IS DIFFICULT. TRYING TO KEEP ALL BALLS UP IN THE AIR AND IT IS DIFFICULT WITH RISING COSTS AND ALL THESE UNKNOWNS OUT HERE. SO I APPRECIATE YOU STICKING WITH US. AND THANK YOU FOR WORK THROUGH THE PROCESS AND GETTING THE BIDS IN THAT ARE -- THAT ARE RELATIVELY REASONABLE CONSIDERING THE SCOPE OF THE PROJECT. SO THANKS. APPRECIATE THAT. LOOK FORWARD TO YOU COMING FORWARD WITH THE RESOLUTION AND GETTING THAT ON OUR CALENDAR. AND I THINK WE ARE DONE WITH THIS NOW. ARE WE GOOD? >> THANK YOU. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU, ALL. THAT CONCLUDES OUR REGULARLY SCHEDULED PROGRAM. WE ARE DONE WITH OUR REGULAR BUSINESS. AND WE ARE NOW DOWN TO NEW BUSINESS. I AM GOING TO START WITH COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA. >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR. TWO QUICK ONES, IF I MAY. DID EVERYBODY GET THE INVITATION ON SUNDAY EVENING FOR THE RAMADAN EVENT? >>LYNN HURTAK: I WILL BE THERE. >>LUIS VIERA: I WAS ASKED TO DO -- WHY I PULLED MR. SHELBY UP, EITHER A RESOLUTION OR COMMENDATION AND THEREFORE, IT WOULD BE EASIER TO DO A COMMENDATION. I MO STATION DO A COMMENDATION FOR THE MONTH -- I BELIEVE IT IS MUSLIMS FOR DEMOCRACY AND FAIRNESS FOR THEIR MUM HERITAGE AND RAMADAN EVENT AND WE ARE ALL PRESENTED. >>MARTIN SHELBY: OFF-SITE THEN. >>LUIS VIERA: YES. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA. SECONDED FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. OPPOSED. THE AYES HAVE IT. >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, COUNCIL. I AM GOING TO PASS THIS OUT. BACKGROUND ON THIS. I WON'T MAKE THE MOTION TODAY, BUT I WILL URGE EVERYBODY TO TAKE A LOOK. "TAMPA BAY TIMES" ARTICLE WITH AMANDA WHO IS A CUBAN IMMIGRANT BOOTED FROM OUR COUNTRY WHILE PREGNANT AND ATTORNEY SAM BEDOWY TOOK ON HER CASE PRO BONO AND THIS IS, LIKE, AMAZING. I WANT YOU ALL TO SEE THE CASE BACKGROUND BEFORE, BUT THIS IS HEARTBREAKING. AND WE SHOULD DEFINITELY HONOR THAT. BUT I WILL GET THAT, IF I MAY. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: DO YOU REMEMBER OUR RULES ON CITY COUNCIL. >>LUIS VIERA: COMMENDATIONS? >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HAVE TO DO WITH CITY BUSINESS. >>LUIS VIERA: A LOT OF CUBANS HERE. BUT, IF I MAY, I DO ALSO HAVE A MOTION -- WHERE IS THIS? MR. CHAIR, CAN I GO BACK AFTER THE BOARD MEMBER YOUNG -- >>ALAN CLENDENIN: REFER TO COUNCIL MEMBER YOUNG. >>NAYA YOUNG: OKAY. SO I HAVE A FEW THINGS. SO I DID -- RECENTLY I HAD -- I DID A COMMUNITY TOUR WITH CEO AND FOUNDER OF FAITH ACTION MINISTRY ALLIANCE. PASTOR JOHNSON IN GRANT PARK. AND IT WAS AWESOME. THE GRANT PARK CHRISTIAN ACADEMY. THE SCHOOL IS LOCATED AT NEW TESTAMENT WORSHIP CENTER IN GRANT PARK. AND FAMA ALONG WITH AN ALLIANCE OF PARTNERS DEVELOP COMMUNITY SERVICES DEDICATING TO TRANS FORMING THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD THROUGH COLLABORATION AND DOOR-TO-DOOR SERVICES. ARIZONA NURSING STUDENTS GO OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY AND GO DOOR TO DOOR TALKING WITH COMMUNITIES TO SEE WHAT KIND OF NEEDS THEY HAVE. THIS IS HOW THEY ACTUALLY GET THEIR FIELD EXPERIENCE WHILE IN SCHOOL. AND WE ALSO -- THEY HAVE -- THE NEW EDUCATION BUILDING WHICH THEY ARE USE FOR MENTORING SERVICES AND GRANT PARK AND EXPANDING OUT TO HIGHLAND PINES. THEY HAVE UNHOUSED POPULATION AND TEENAGERS THAT ARE ALSO HELPING -- WE WERE IN TOUR. THEY WERE ACTUALLY HELPING TO KEEP THE NEIGHBORHOOD CLEAN. AND IT WAS REALLY AMAZING TO SEE. YOU HAVE SEEN THE TRANSFORMATION IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT HOW THE COMMUNITY IS WORKING TOGETHER TO TRANSFORM THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD IS REALLY REMARKABLE. SO I WAS VERY HAPPY TO SEE THAT. AND TELLING PASTOR JOHNSON. I SAID I WOULD LOVE TO BE ABLE TO REPLICATE THIS THROUGHOUT OUR DISTRICT TEN, 20 TIMES AND SIGH HOW THE COMMUNION WORKS TOGETHER. I WAS HAPPY TO SEE THAT. I DID A TOUR WITH CARL JOHNSON, THE OWNER OF THE FLORIDA SCHOOL OF WOODWORK. THE YELLOW BRICK ROAD, WENT TO THE RIATO AND HOT TUB BUSINESS ROBINSON'S. IT WAS NEAT TO SEE THAT AS WELL. ANOTHER AWESOME EXAMPLE OF COMMUNITY AND EVERYONE KIND OF WORKING TOGETHER TO BUILD UP THAT CORRIDOR. SO IT WAS VERY NICE. HE ALSO WENT TO THE HISTORIC BELMONT HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING WHERE I SHARED THE SUCCESS OF GRANT PARK. I SAID I WOULD LOVE TO BE ABLE TO REPLICATE THIS. AND THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT WERE THERE, THEY WERE ON BOARD AS WELL. SO IT WAS VERY NICE. AND I ALSO WANTED TO JUST LET COMMUNITY KNOW THAT I HAVE ALREADY KIND OF BEEN IN CONVERSATION WITH CODE ENFORCEMENT AND OTHER DEPARTMENTS TO ADDRESS THE ISSUES THAT CAME UP ABOUT THE CORNER STORES. BUT ALSO JUST WITH CLEANING UP IN THE COMMUNITY. IT HAS COME TO ME MULTIPLE, MULTIPLE TIMES. THE COMMUNITY JUST WANTS TO CLEAN UP THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS. SO WE HAVE BEEN WORK ON THAT. OUR OFFICE HAS BEEN WORKING ON THAT. AND I HEARD EARLIER OF ASSISTANCE WITH OUR ELDERLY BEFORE WE GET TO A POINT WHERE WE HAVE TO INTERVENE AND PUNT LIENS ON THE HOMES AND WHAT WE CAN DOCK TO PREVENT THAT. SOME OF THINGS WE ARE TALKING ABOUT. AND THREE MOTIONS THAT I WANT TO MAKE. SO WE KNOW THAT THE -- THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS FINISHED THE SULPHUR SPRINGS NEIGHBORHOOD ACTION PLAN. AND SO I WANT TO MOVE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR STAFF TO GIVE A FINAL REPORT ON THE SULPHUR SPRINGS NEIGHBORHOOD ACTION PLAN AT THE MAY 7 CITY COUNCIL MEETING. >> SECOND. >>MARTIN SHELBY: HAVE YOU LOOKED AT THAT? >>NAYA YOUNG: I ASKED THEM IF THAT DATE WAS OKAY, AND THEY SAID YEAH. >>MARTIN SHELBY: THIS IS A STAFF REPORT? OKAY, THANK YOU. PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF OR CITY STAFF. >>NAYA YOUNG: IT WOULD BE PLANNING -- >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU CAN ASK FOR STAFF AND DETERMINE -- >>NAYA YOUNG: FOR THEM TO DETERMINE WHO NEEDS -- I PUT STAFF BUT I THINK CITY PLANNING DEPARTMENT. >>MARTIN SHELBY: WILL IT BE -- THE ACTION PLAN WILL BE RELATED TO THE CITY CODE? IS IT PLANNING COMMISSION OR THE CITY? >>NAYA YOUNG: IT WAS PLANNING COMMISSION. >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF IT WAS THE PLANNING COMMISSION, THEY WOULD HAVE TO BE INVITED THROUGH YOUR OFFICE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU CAN REACH OUT TO THEM. >>NAYA YOUNG: OKAY. >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU CAN REQUEST STAFF AND THEN FOLLOW UP WITH YOUR OFFICE. >>NAYA YOUNG: THAT IS FINE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER YOUNG. A SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. OPPOSED. AYES HAVE IT. >>NAYA YOUNG: I WOULD MAKE MOTION OF THE CITY OF TAMPA PLANNING DEPARTMENT TECHNICAL WORKING GROUPS TO WORK WITH REQUIREMENTS FOR A SPECIFIC BUDGET REQUEST TO TAKE THE NEXT STEPS ON AN CATALYST PROJECT OR PROGRAM FOR SURFACE BASED ON THE PRIORITY ACTIONS AND NEEDS OF IDENTIFIED BY THE COMMUNITY OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ACTION PLAN THAT IS PROVIDED TO US BY THE NEIGHBORHOOD ACTION LEAGUE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. >>NAYA YOUNG: I TALKED TO THEM BUILDER THIS AND I TOLD THEM I WOULD MAKE THIS MOTION AND THIS IS COMING UP. MY LAST MOTION, MOVE TO TAKE MA MOTION FOR CODE ENFORCEMENT TO A FIVE OR TEN-MINUTE REPORT OF HOW THIS THEY ARE MAINTAINING AND CLEANING CITY-OWN LOTS. THOSE WHO ARE NOT MAINTAINED, WHAT HOW THEY CAN BE BETTER STEW WORDS OF OUR PROPERTY. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHAT WAS THE LAST DATE -- >>NAYA YOUNG: MAY 7. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: FILLS US UP. >>NAYA YOUNG: WE ONLY H TWO ON MAY 7. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU ADDED THREE? >>NAYA YOUNG: I HAVE ONE FOR THEM TO COME -- WITH STAFF TO COME TO GIVE A FINAL REPORT ON NEIGHBORHOOD ACTION PLAN. AND THEN I WANT THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND THE TECHNICAL. SOME FOR THAT PROJECT, HAD THE TECHNICAL WORKING GROUP -- YES, IF THAT IS NOT TOO MUCH. MAYBE THEY CAN MAKE IT -- MAYBE COME BY. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT FILLS UP THAT DAY. JUST SO PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT. >>NAYA YOUNG: IS THAT OKAY? >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT IS FINE. YOU BEAT VIERA FOR ANOTHER DATE. >>LUIS VIERA: OH, NO. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU IT DID -- >>NAYA YOUNG: THE REASON I DID THAT IS BECAUSE -- WE WILL PRESENT THE PLAN. BUT I WANT FOR THEM TO WORK WITH THE ACTUAL TECHNICAL WORKING GROUP. OUT OF THIS PLAN. WHAT IS FEASIBLE FOR US TO DO AND HOW DO WE MOVE TO GET TO THE NEXT STEPS. WHY WE DID IT THAT WAY. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION ARE COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG. SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT UNANIMOUSLY. ANYTHING ELSE. >>NAYA YOUNG: I AM DONE. >>LUIS VIERA: IF I HAVE CAN, MR. CHAIRMAN. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA. >>LUIS VIERA: THIS IS A MOTION FOR REAL ESTATE. MERELY FOR A WRITTEN REPORT ON MAY 7. AGAIN JUST IN WRITING. SO THERE IS IN WASHINGTON D.C. A MEMORIAL TO VICTIMS OF COMMUNISM THAT EXISTS. I HAVE BEEN WORK FOR A WHILE WITH A LOT OF DIFFERENT HISPANIC AND VIETNAMESE GROUPS AND A LOT OF PEOPLE HERE IN TAMPA THAT COME AS REFUGEESS FROM COMMUNIST NICARAGUA VENEZUELA CUBA, ETC. SOME INTEREST OF A MEMORIAL OF VICTIMS OF COMMUNISM. I HAD SEBASTIAN PRINT OUT MEMORIAL FOR IT. NOT FOR FUNDING OF MEMORIAL OR ANYTHING OF THAT NAY CH YOU ARE. I WOULD ANTICIPATE WE GET THAT FROM TALLAHASSEE. FOR REAL ESTATE AND PARKS TO REPORT ON CTHE LAND. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WILL THROW MYSELF ON THE SWORD ON THIS ONE, COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA. I LOVE YOU. I LOVE YOU JUST MORE THAN JUST ABOUT EVERYBODY, BUT THAT IS SO FAR OUTSIDE OF THE SCOPE OF WHAT WE DO ON CITY COUNCIL. >>LUIS VIERA: NO, WE HAVE -- WE HAVE ALL SORTS OF MEMORIALS. I MEAN -- >>ALAN CLENDENIN: BUT NOT SOMETHING THAT THE CITY -- KIND OF OUTSIDE OF THE PURSUE OF WHAT -- I THINK WE WILL RELY -- WEFIESED THIS SOON AFTER I HAVE CAME ON COUNCIL BECAUSE GONE DOWN RABBIT HOLE ON SOME OF THESE, ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY TIER ON POLITICS AND ANY OF THE HOT BUTTON ITEMS. >>LUIS VIERA: I DON'T THINK THAT PEOPLE WHO -- >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE MAY HAVE SOME DOWN INNISTS IN THE CITY OF TAMPA THAT MAY DISAGREE WITH YOU. >>LYNN HURTAK: ARE YOU TALKING OF PEOPLE WHO ARE VICTIM OF COMMUNISM IN THE UNITED STATES? >>LUIS VIERA: NO. PEOPLE FLED COMMUNIST COUNTRIES AS REFUGEES. >>LYNN HURTAK: I AM NOT SURE WHY WE NEED TO HAVE MONUMENT HERE FOR THAT. >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE MANY FOLKS HERE. MY FAMILY THAT CAME FROM CUBA, NICK WAS GA, VENEZUELA, WE HAVE A TON. UNIQUE TO THE TAMPA EXPERIENCE AND MANY PEOPLE LIKE THAT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I DON'T KNOW. >>LUIS VIERA: NO DIFFERENT THAN IF WE DO A MEMORIAL FOR DIFFERENT TRAGEDIES THAT HAPPENED THROUGHOUT HISTORY WHETHER IT IS THE HALL LOAF 'CAUSE OR WHATEVER IT MAY BE. IT IS PROPER FOR CITIES FOR HAVE MEMORIALS ON THINGS LIKE THAT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA. IS THERE A SECOND? HEARING NO SECOND. LOVE YOU. >>LUIS VIERA: A SECOND FOR EVERYONE ON THIS. BECAUSE I WILL CALL THIS OUT. I AM SORRY. THIS IS GARBAGE. I SHOULD GET A SECOND ON THIS. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WILL GIVE YOU SECOND. >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU. LET'S HAVE A VOTE ON THIS. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: KILLED BY THE AMERICAN SOLDIERS FOR NO REASON. >>LUIS VIERA: SOMEBODY BRINGS IT UP. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AM TIRED OF THIS. I REALLY CAN. I LOVE YOU AND EVERYTHING ELSE, BUT I CAN'T CONTINUE THIS. >>LUIS VIERA: NORTHWEST CITY FUNDING FOR THE MEMORIAL BUT POTENTIAL SPOTS FOR IT IN THE ESPREN WE WORK WITH TALLAHASSEE AS I AM TALKING WITH PEOPLE THERE AS POTENTIALLY FUNDING ONE. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: FIND OUT WHAT YOU WANT TO DO AND GET THE FUNDING -- YOU ARE PUTTING THE CART AGAINST THE -- >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AM NOT VOTING AGAINST IT. I AM NOT VOTING PERIOD. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECONDS. I REALLY. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. OPPOSED. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I ABSTAIN. >>LYNN HURTAK: NAY. >>LUIS VIERA: ROLL CALL, PLEASE. >>MARTIN SHELBY: I HATE TO DO THIS. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I KNOW. >>ALAN C DON'T WE HAVE A RULE? >>MARTIN SHELBY: THERE IS A LAW UNLESS YOU HAVE A DIRECT FINANCIAL INTEREST, YOU CAN NOT ABSTAIN. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I THOUGHT YOU WERE GOING TO TALK OF A RULE OF COUNCIL -- BEFORE WE CAN MAKE MOTIONS. >>MARTIN SHELBY: DO YOU HAVE RULES ABOUT THAT. I DON'T THINK ANYTHING APPLIES TO WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA WAS SAYING. JUST A REMINDER, IF YOU WERE SILENT, THEN THAT COUNTS AS AN AFFIRMATIVE VOTE UNDER ROBERTS RULE. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AM NOT AFRAID TO VOTE BUT I DON'T LIKE TO GET SURPRISED BY THIS. >>LUIS VIERA: HOW ABOUT YOU THIS AS I MAY AS A PROFESSIONAL COURTESY, IF SOMEBODY SAYS THEY ARE SURPRISED. I RESPECT THAT, COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA. HOW ABOUT THIS. I WILL -- IS THERE SUPPORT FOR THIS RIGHT NOW? BUT THIS -- THIS IS NOT CONTROVERSIAL. THERE IS NO -- THERE IS NO SURPRISE. I HAVE NO IDEA WHY IN THE WORLD THIS IS CONTROVERSIAL. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: JUST A STEP OVER ITS LINE WHAT IS WITHIN OUR PURVIEW. IF WE WERE -- IF WE WERE MEMBERS OF CONGRESS AND DEALING WITH INTERNATIONAL ISSUES AND -- I MEAN, WOULD GET IT. BUT COUNCIL. WE DEAL WITH LAND USE, TRASH, WATER. WE DEAL WITH ALL THESE THINGS. IT IS JUST OUTSIDE OF OUR SCOPE. >>LUIS VIERA: WE JUST DID A COMMENT WE ARE MUSLIM HERITAGE MONTH. HERITAGE OF PEOPLE COMING FROM TAMPA FLEEING COMMUNISM FROM OTHER COUNTRIES. IT IS ABOUT THE IMMIGRANT EXPERIENCE. IT IS NOT CONTROVERSIAL. IT'S NOT. I DIDN'T THINK THERE WOULD BE ANY PUSH BACK TO THIS, I WILL BE HONEST. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I STILL HAVE A MOTION AND I HAVE A SECOND. ROLL CALL, PLEASE. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES. >>LYNN HURTAK: NO. >>NAYA YOUNG: YES. >>LUIS VIERA: YES. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NO. >>CLERK: MOTION FAILED DUE TO A TIE VOTE AND LACK OF A MAJORITY. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I AM SORRY. >>LUIS VIERA: AGAIN, THAT'S -- THAT IS UNFORTUNATE, COUNCIL. THAT IS VERY SAD. HE MEAN THAT. THIS GOES TO SOMETHING WHERE PEOPLE NEED TO BE EDUCATED MORE SO ON THE EXPERIENCES OF PEOPLE AND HOW THEY CAME HERE. THIS IS NOTHING THAT IS CONTROVERSIAL WHATSOEVER. IT IS NOT. THIS IS NOT A FOREIGN POLICY ISSUE. THIS IS AN IMMIGRATION ISSUE, IN TERMS OF OUR IMMIGRANT EXPERIENCE HERE TO TAMPA AND THAT'S -- >>LYNN HURTAK: AND I -- I THINK THAT IFU GET SOME STATE OR FEDERAL DOLLARS TO TALK MORE ABOUT IT AND, LIKE, TO BE MORE CONCRETE, IT IS A DIFFERENT STORY. >>LUIS VIERA: I WAS TRYING -- I DON'T WANT TO INTERRUPT YOU. GO AHEAD. >>LYNN HURTAK: IF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS SAYING, HEY, YEAH, WE WANT TO DO THIS AND LET'S HELP FIND A LOCATION BUT WE ARE NOT HERE YET. >>LUIS VIERA: I WILL JUST GO TO THE COUNTY. THAT'S IT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: DO YOU HAVE NEW BUSINESS. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: REMOVE MY MOTION TO DISCUSS THE COUNCIL SALARY ON SEPTEMBER 24. I ORIGINALLY MADE THIS MOTION ON BEHALF THE COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK AND DUPLICATED.I AM LOOKING AT THE CALENDAR FOR SEPTEMBER 24. COUNCIL TO DISCUSS SALARY. SO I WANT TO REMOVE MY MOTION. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU FOR LOOKING AT THE CALENDAR. >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHAT WOULD HAVE HAPPENED IF YOU HAD TWO DIFFERENT DECISIONS. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WITH THIS COUNCIL, IT IS ABSOLUTELY LIKELY. MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO. SECONDED FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. OPPOSED. AYES HAVE IT. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: FIRST I WOULD LIKE TO SAY TO COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG, LIKE THAT YOU GIVE UPDATES OF WHAT DO YOU. I THINK THAT IS VERY GOOD. BECAUSE YOU WORK VERY HARDS. AND I AM GLAD YOU BROUGHT UP PASTOR JOHNSON THE BROTHER OF CALVIN JOHNSON FROM TPD. I HAVE BEEN OUT THERE. THEY HAD A LAW ENFORCEMENT APPRECIATION EVENT AN IT IS WONDERFUL. YOU LOVE THE WORK THAT THEY DO. SO THANK YOU. MARCH IS COLORECTAL CANCER AWARENESS MONTH. AND SOMEONE VERY NEAR AND DEAR TO MY HEART HAD TO SUFFER, STRUGGLE SURVIVE THROUGH THAT, AND ITS IMPORTANCE OF -- OF SCREENING AND GETTING TESTS BECAUSE -- I THINK COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA, YOU MIGHT KNOW HIM, DR. LOVE? YEAH, DR. LOVE. SO HE IS A YOUNG PHYSICIAN. AND HE WAS ON WEDU I BELIEVE EARLIER TODAY WITH LISETTE CAMPOS IF YOU EVER WATCH THE TALKING OF RISE OF PATIENTS UNDER THE AGE OF 50. PERSON I MENTIONED WAS 38 YEAR OLD, I BELIEVE, WITH A DIAGNOSIS. IMPORTANT TO GET SCREENED EVEN IF YOU DON'T HAVE SYMPTOMS. MINOR THINGS. IT IS JUST LIKE -- YOU KNOW, WITH PROSTATE CANCER, WITH SO MANY OTHER ISSUES, SO IMPORTANT TO GET SCREENED AND IF YOU CAN CATCH THIS EARLY, OF COURSE SURVIVABILITY RISES AND RAISES UP. MARCH IS LIVE WOMEN'S HISTORY MONTH, CORRECT. A LOT OF THINGS BUT TODAY I AM TALKING OF COLORECTAL CANCER AWARENESS. GET SCREENED EVEN WITHOUT SYMPTOMS. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I MAKE A MOTION TO HEAR A PRESENTATION APRIL 26 FROM THE CITY'S CONSULT TANT REGARDING THE SCHEDULED ADJUSTMENTS OF WATER-WASTEWATER CAPACITY FEES. FURTHER THAT THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL CONSIDER AN ORDINANCE OF ADJUSTMENT OF SAID FEES APRIL. SECOND READING MAY 2, 2026-'27. I'M SURE IT WILL NOT TAKE PLACE UNTIL SOME TIME NEXT YEAR. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: PRESENTATION -- I GET SECOND ONE WILL JUST BE A SECOND READING. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND READING ON MAY 7. >>LUIS VIERA: YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, MADAM CLERK. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: FIRST READING ON APRIL 2, AND A SECOND READING ON MAY 7. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: FOR THE PROPOSED RATE. JUST A READING. COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. >>LYNN HURTAK: ARE WE GOING TO GET A BRIEFING BEFORE THEY COME ON APRIL 2? >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I DON'T KNOW, I CAN ARRANGE IT. >>LYNN HURTAK: YEAH. JUST BASICALLY TALKING OF THE SURPRISE WITH -- WITH FLEET. I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW AHEAD OF TIME. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IN OTHER WO WORDS -- I WILL ASK THEM TO SEND ALL THE COPIES TO COME THROUGH, COLONEL MEMBER. >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT WILL BE GREAT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WILL SECOND IT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: FAVOR. OPPOSED. AYES HAVE IT. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND ONE A REVENUE AND FINANCE STAFF TO HAVE PROVIDE A MIDYEAR REVIEW MAY 1, 2026 REGULAR SEASON FOR THE BUDGET. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA. SECONDED FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ANYTHING ELSE? >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THAT'S IT. >>LYNN HURTAK: I AM PASSING OUT AN E-MAIL. YOU CAN READ IT FROM THE BOMB TOM-- THE BOTTOM. I GENERALLY DO A LOT OF RIDE-ALONGS AND VISITS TO DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS. AND BASICALLY KELLEY AND I WERE TOLD YESTERDAY IN A MEETING WITH ITS MAYOR WE ARE NO LONGER GOING TO TOLERATE US INTERRUPTING THEIR WORK. AND SO SAL RUGGIERO TOLD KELLY WE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO DO ANY RIDE-ALONG AND VISITS DURING, QUOTES, UNQUOTE, CAMPAIGN SEASON. AND SO -- THIS IS JUST FUNDAMENTALLY WRONG. IT IS THE PROPER DUTY OF A REPRESENTS I HAVE IT BODY TO LOOK DILIGENTLY INTO EVERY AFFAIR OF GOVERNMENT AND TO TALK MUCH ABOUT WHAT IT SEES. BECAUSE UNLESS ELECTED OFFICIALS HAVEN'T USED EVERY MEANS OF ACQUAINTING THEMSELVES OF THE ACTS AND DISPOSITION OF THE ADMINISTRATIVE AGENTS OF THE GOVERNMENT, THE COUNTY OR THE COUNTRY MUST BE HOPEFUL OF HOW IT IS BEING SERVED. QUOTE FROM SUPREME COURT JUSTICE FELIX FRANKFURTHER, A GREAT NAME. DELIVERING THE OPINION OF THE COURT IN 1953. THESE WORDS FORM THE BASIS OF ITS MEMBERS OF CONGRESS TO VISIT AND IN THE, AUDIT AND MONITOR ON BEHALF OF CITIZENS HOW THEIR GOVERNMENT IS OPERATING WHICH IS BASICALLY HOW WE AS CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE DOING FOR THE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY COUNCIL. WE CAN NOT BE THEIR VOICE IF THEY ARE NOT ALSO THEIR EYES AND EARS. I AM PROUD OF MY 70s TO BETTER UNDERSTAND OUR CITY'S LARGEST EXPENDITURES THROUGH RIDE-ALONGS IN SQUAD CARS, FIRE TRUCKS, HELICOPTERS AND GARBAGE TRUCKS AS WELL AS TOURS OF FLEET MAINTENANCE FACILITIES, WATER AND WASTEWATER FACILITIES AND I.T. DEPARTMENT. I VERY RARELY PUBLICIZE THESE TOURS BECAUSE THEY ARE EDUCATIONAL AND NOT POLITICAL IN NATURE. I SHARE MY KNOWLEDGE WITH COMMUNITY AND NEIGHBORHOOD GROUPS AS WELL AS USE THIS KNOWLEDGE TO MOVE FORWARD POLICY. THE DECISION BY THIS ADMINISTRATION TO BLOCK OUR ACCESS CITY GOVERNMENT IS ANTI-DEMOCRATIC AND I BELIEVE PERSONALLY TARGETING ME AS SOMEONE WHO HAS TAKEN THESE RESPONSIBILITIES SERIOUSLY. EVERY RIDE ALONG HAVE BEEN MET WITH APPRECIATION OF CITY WORKERS WHO SPENDS TIME AND IMPROVE THE SYSTEM OF WHICH THEY WORK. THIS POLICY WAS NOT PUT INTO PLACE DURING LAST ELECTION CYCLE AND CLEAR IT IS ASH TARRY AND CAPRICIOUS. INTENDED TO HARM ME BUT ALL OF COUNCIL AND ALL OF THE RESIDENTS MUCH THE CITY OF TAMPA. -- OF THE CITY OF TAMPA? THOUGHTS? >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I HAVE BEEN ON MANY RIDE-ALONGS. NOT RECENTLY. WE CAUGHT A ROBBER IN A SECOND FLOOR OF A GROCERY STORE. I HAVE BEEN WITH HIGH-RANKING POLICE OFFICIAL AND HE SHOWED ME WHAT THE UNDERCOVER GUYS WERE DOING. I HAVE RODE ALONG -- WHEN GRECO WAS MAYOR ASK THE CHAIRMAN MIDNIGHT, 2:00 YOU ARE REQUIRED TO GO. BOTH OF US WILL SHOW UP WHEREVER IT WAS. A KILLING, FIRE OR WHATEVER IT WAS, WE WOULD SHOW UP. AND THAT IS WHAT GOVERNMENT IS ALL ABOUT. I DON'T UNDERSTAND IT AND NOT MY WRITING. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT HAS BEEN A WHILE SINCE I HAVE DONE RIDE ALONGS WITH TPD AND TAMPA FIRE. SADLY ON EACH ONE. ONE WAS A PEDESTRIAN FATALITY ON HILLSBOROUGH. THE OFFICER I WAS WITH, WITH UNBELIEVABLE DRIVEWAY FROM THE CAUSEWAY. PARAMEDICS WERE WORKING ON THE GENTLEMAN. THE JAR PASSED AWAY. LAST TAMPA FIRE DEPARTMENT RIDE ALONG OFF FLORIDA AVENUE AND WENT INTO A RESIDENCE. AND A YOUNG MAN CAME HOME AND FOUND HIS MOTHER IT HE CEASED ON THE COUCH. -- DECEASED ON THE COUCH. SHE HAD BEEN SICK AND STICKS WITH YOU. TRAUMATIZING. THE POOR YOUNG MAN. YOU WALK IN. THE PERSON IS THERE. GAVE ME GREATER APPRECIATION OF WHAT POLICE AND FIRE GO THROUGH. BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT THEY SEE DAY IN AN DAY OUT. DRUG OVERDOSES, ADMINISTERING NARCAN. ALL SORTS OF STUFF. FEW TIMES THAT I HAVE DONE IT. DURING A RIDE-ALONG. SPECIFIC TO RIDE-ALONG OR SITE VISITS? ARE YOU ALLOWED TO GO TO A FIRE STATION AND -- >>LYNN HURTAK: I AM TAKING IT AS A NO. I WANTED TO GO ALONG WITH CODE ENFORCEMENT BECAUSE WE ARE HEARING -- MY OFFICE HAS BEEN HEARING TONS OF COMPLAINTS OF CODE ENFORCEMENT. I DID A RIDE ALONG WITH CODE COMPLIANCE WITH THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT. SO I HAD DONE THAT FIRST. I SAT THROUGH CODE ENFORCEMENT HEARINGS AT HANNAH CITY CENTER AND WAS GOING TO DO ITS CODE ENFORCEMENT RIDE ALONG. UNFORTUNATE NOW NOW THEY REALLY WANT TO PREVENT CITY COUNCIL FROM DOING CITY BUSINESS. IT IS REALLY FUNNY BECAUSE I NEVER TALK ABOUT THESE. I DON'T POLITICIZE THEM AT ALL. NOW THEY WANT TO MAKE THIS POLITICAL. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I HAD SOMEBODY TELL ME ONE TIME. COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK IS WITH A POLICE CAR AT THE 7-ELEVEN ON THE CORNER. I SIDE SHE IS DOING A RIDE-ALONG. I LIVE DOWN THE STREET. I SAID SHE DOES RIDE-ALONG LONGS. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NOT IN HANDCUFFS. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: BUT -- I GET IT, THE RIDE-ALONGS ARE GREAT AND REALLY INTERESTING. IF WE ARE ALLOWED TO VISIT FIRE STATIONS, FIRE STATIONS, POLICE STATIONS. THEY WILL NOT LET YOU IN THE EVIDENCE ROOM. I DON'T KNOW. THIS HAS BEEN -- THIS HAS BEEN SAID OR ALLEGEDED THAT WE CAN'T DO -- IF COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA WANTS TO BRING PASTRIES TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. ARE WE ALLOWED TO DO THAT? WE CAN'T WALK ON THE PROPERTY. >>LYNN HURTAK: I DON'T KNOW. THAT IS KIND OF THE POINT. THIS IS NOT THE ISSUE. WE ARIZONA B-- WE AS A BODY HAV TO DETERMINE. I HAVE BEEN UP IN A HELICOPTER. PEOPLE KEEP ASKING WHAT IS GOING ON. I DID THAT AND WAS ABLE TO TALK TO PEOPLE ABOUT IT. I SAW HOW OUR MONEY WAS BEING SPENT. NOW WHEN I FUND THAT, I DON'T HAVE TO ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT. I KNOW WHERE ALL THE MONEY IS GOING. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG AND THEN COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA. >>NAYA YOUNG: I WILL JUST SAY. I TALKED ABOUT MY RIDE-ALONGS, BEING NEW ON COUNCIL, IT HAS BEEN AWESOME. I STILL HAVE SOME COMING UP. SO HOPEFULLY WE DON'T GET ANY CALLS OR E-MAILS, BUT, YOU KNOW, I THINK -- IT HAS BEEN -- I THINK IT IS EXTREMELY HELPFUL BECAUSE YOU GET TO SEE THE INNER WORKINGS. WHEN I WENT TO -- WE DID THIS -- FIRE STATION NUMBER 18. WHEN WE GOT THERE, THEY WERE ACTUALLY ON A CALL AND WE WERE ABLE TO GO INSIDE AND SEE -- THEIR STATION WAS BUILT IN 1950s. HAD THE AVERAGE TILE IN THERE AND WENT TO THE BACK TO SEE. AND DARLENE WAS LOOKING -- WHAT CAN WE TO DO HELP THIS FIRE STATION. WE WOULD NOT KNOW THAT IF WE DIDN'T GO HERE. I HAVE DONE MY RIDE-ALONG WITH CODE ENFORCEMENT. I AM ALREADY ONE TO SCHEDULE A PART TWO, BECAUSE MY DISTRICT IS HUGE. A LOT OF AREA TO COVER. WHEN WE WERE OUT THERE, WE GOT TO SEE THE PEOPLE THAT WERE WORKING. TAKE US INTO THE AREAS. THE ISSUE WITH WILL THIS, BECAUSE -- YOU REALLY GET TO SEE WHAT PEOPLE ARE DEALING WITH WEATHER IT BE COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND THE ACTUAL STAFF OF HOW THEY ARE DEALING. YOU DON'T ABLE TO KNOW THAT UNLESS YOU ARE THERE AND ABLE TO SEE AND EXPERIENCE IT WITH YOUR OWN EYES. SO MY -- I AM HOPING THAT THIS IS, YOU KNOW, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW WHAT, WE ARE NOT GOING TO DO THAT. BECAUSE -- BECAUSE -- I MEAN -- I AM SPEAKING FOR ME, BUT I THINK I CAN SPEAK FOR ALL OF US THAT IT HELPS US TO SEE, AGAIN, WHERE THE MONEY IS GOING. PEOPLE ARE LIKE YOU ARE SPENDING MONEY ON THIS AND THAT. I CAN SPEAK AND SAY IN IS WHY WE ARE DOING THIS /* TH. I SEEN IT WITH MY OWN EYE. THIS IS THE ONLY WAY WE CAN DO OUR JOBS. SOB -- SO I HAVE SOME THINGS COMING UP. I DON'T -- SHOULD NOT BE RECEIVING ANY E-MAIL OS ARE CALLS ABOUT THAT I CAN'T DO ANYTHING, BECAUSE YOU DON'T -- I AM VERY NICE PERSON. BUT I DON'T WANT TO -- I DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO BE UNKIND. SOME, PLEASE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: POINT TAKEN. COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA. >>LUIS VIERA: I MEAN THE FUNDAMENTAL ISSUE ISN'T -- NUMBER ONE, WE ARE A YEAR FROM A CAMPAIGN. SO I DON'T THINK IT IS CAMPAIGN SEASON, NUMBER ONE. AND UNLESS THIS -- AND I KNOW THIS ISN'T THE CASE. IF SOMEBODY -- I AM NOT GOING TO SAY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. SHE WOULDN'T DO THAT. IF SOMEBODY GOES TO A CITY EMPLOYEE AND FILLIBLE A POLITICAL VIDEO OR WHAT HAVE YOU, THAT'S OBVIOUSLY IMPROPER. NO EVIDENCE THAT IS BEING DONE. THIS NO ALLEGATION THAT IS BEING DONE WHATSOEVER. AND, AGAIN, WE ARE A YEAR AWAY FROM -- YOU KNOW, I FILED FOR STATEHOUSE IN APRIL OF LAST YEAR. AND I PROBABLY VISITED GOD KNOW HOW MANY FIRE AND POLICE STATIONS SINCE THEN. SO LONG AS ITS NOT INTERFERING WITH THE FUNCTION OF THAT PUBLIC SERVANT, I SEE NO CHALLENGE WITH IT. I DON'T. AND EVERYBODY IS UP FOR ELECTION OR REELECTION IN ONE WAY OR ANOTHER. AND DOESN'T PRECLUDE US FROM GOING ON RIDE-ALONGS. WE HAVE TO TREAT WHOEVER THE PERSON IT AND WHOEVER THE CANDIDATES MAY BE, MAYOR BUCKHORN IN 2013, MAYOR CASTOR FOR 2023 FOR REELECTION. ANY OF US THE PRINCIPLE THAT APPLIES AS HE OEZ POD TO THE ORIGINAL EVER PERSON. CLENDENIN I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT TAMPA COUNCIL UNANIMOUSLY REQUEST THAT THE ADMINISTRATION RESCIND THEIR POSITION ON OPEN ACCESS TO MEMBERS OF TAMPA CITY COUNCIL TO THE FACILITY -- CITY OF TAMPA FACILITIES INCLUDING RIDE ALONGS. THAT OPEN ACCESS ENSURES FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY AND TRANSPARENCY AMONGST THE DECISION-MAKERS OF THE CITY OF TAMPA. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WILL SECOND THAT. I SECOND THAT. BUT ALSO, AS CAMPAIGN SEASON BEGINS OR -- I MEAN, JUST BE AWARE. DON'T -- I AM NOT SAYING ANYBODY WOULD DO THIS. BUT DON'T DO POLITICAL VIDEOS AND STUFF LIKE THAT. IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, GO TO THE UNIONS AND WHAT NOT AND CODE ENFORCEMENT IS DIFFERENT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: RUN THE RISK OF GETTING SEEN -- WE WON'T GET IN TROUBLE, YOU RUN THE RISK OF GETTING THE CITY EMPLOYEE -- >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OUT OF RESPECT FOR THEM AND A COURTESY. >>LYNN HURTAK: WHAT IS INTERESTING FOR ME, ALL OF US -- YOU WERE NOT THERE FOR THAT -- YOU WEREN'T EITHER. BUT ALL OF US RAN FOR REELECTION HAND NO PROBLEM. I WAS ABLE TO DO ALL THE VISITS I WANTED TO DURING MY LAST REELECTION. SO INTERESTING. BUT I AM FASCINATED THAT YOU ARE ALLOWED TO KEEP YOURS, BECAUSE YOU ALREADY FILED FOR OFFICE TOO. SO, AGAIN, THAT IS JUST SHOWING THAT IT IS PERSONAL AGAINST ME. SO WE WILL SEE -- WE WILL SEE WHAT HAPPENS. BUT I SECOND -- OR -- I HAVE A MOTION FROM CHAIR CLENDENIN. I HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO. ANYTHING ELSE? OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: OKAY. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO. WE ARE ADJOURNED. SEE YOU GUYS AT 9 A.M. AT HANNAH CENTER.