All right, welcome to Mountain City Council meeting for Tuesday, May 27th, 6 o'clock in Mountain City Council chambers. Can we rise for the pledge of allegiance? I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. All right, we got our agenda. Do we have any amendments? No amendments. Okay. Uh, can I get a motion to approve the agenda? I would like to make a motion to approve the agenda. All right. Got a motion. Can I get a second? Second. Any discussion? All those in favor, please say I. I. Those opposed. All right, that passes. And then we got the consent agenda. Does anybody want to go through those four items? I can read those off. Um, consent agenda items A through D. A, approve payment of claims. B, approve minutes from uh the May 13th city council meeting and the May 6th joint city council parks and open spaces special meeting. C, approve resolution 2550 approving sponsorship as related to Southwest Trails Snowmobile Association for 2526 season. and D, approve resol resolution 2551 approving a public gathering permit for rain barrel distribution uh and special event at mound parking deck. Okay, got those. Does anybody want to poll or talk about those? All right, hearing none. Uh can I get a motion to approve the consent agenda? I make a motion to approve the consent agenda. All right, got a motion. Can I get a second? Second. Okay. Roll call, please. Council member Heric, I. Council member Pew, I. Council member Castellano, I. Mayor Holt, I. All right. All that passes. Uh, number five, we got comments and suggestions from anyone that's present that their item is not on the agenda. if you want to come up and we get three minutes. All right. Hearing none. Um I'm going to bring up Orno police quickly here and uh and then we'll go to the council introduction. You want to come up and give us an update? Good evening, Mayor Council. Uh last few weeks, nothing uh out of the ordinary popped up. Uh this weekend, we did enjoy our Memorial Day weekend. Our calls for service were a little up. Uh nothing serious, but just more people in the area for the weekend. A lot of people enjoying the lake and the uh nice weather. So, we had we had some busy times, but nothing serious. So, uh everything went well. Uh Oil L's bike rodeo went off two weeks ago, I believe. It went off and everyone uh had a good turnout they said and everyone seemed to enjoy it. Uh Warner Police Department uh is going to be starting our summer staffing policies today. It started so we will have a minimum of four officers on duty including the sergeant. Um and that'll be from 10:00 a.m. to 3:00 a.m. 3:00 a.m. every day. So, we will have our uh summer staffing in place until um so after Labor Day, right after Labor Day. So, uh Surf Side was heavily patrolled this past few weeks. Um seems like we're kind of curbing issues. We we have a few once in a while where we have to uh write u citations for uh parking on the weekends and stuff with boat trailers, but it seems to be going good. We got signs up out there and I see the cones are up now, too. So hopefully that's a good reminder to everybody to park where they're supposed to. Uh we are in the kind of final stages of u on boarding our new cadet for Ornal Police Department. Uh Colton Beck is one of our cadets that has started with us a couple years ago as a cso and has gone through our cadet program and now has completed his schooling at Alexandria. Um has taken his post test and passed and now it's on to a psychological um medical physical um test and then after that we will hopefully have him on board here in the middle of the month to start training an FTO. He is brand new so it will take some time to uh he is I think he's straight out of school so this will not be a a fast process. Yeah. Uh and then our K9 program is going to probably start Sunday. He should be finishing up here on Friday and then his first shift will be Sunday Sunday afternoon. So other than that, that's all I have for anybody. Is there any questions or anything that I can entertain? Does council have any questions? I don't think so. I was just going to ask um like the the staffing thing, is that just one more than like the other the quieter part of the year? Well, what it is is so right, we just came off a minimums of three. So, like when officers want to take time off, they have to keep that in mind. Um, if there's three officers on, so they do count a sergeant as an officer. Uh, so if they want time off, there's got to be at least three of us there. Now, we're moving from that to four. So, there has to be four at all times from 10:00 a.m. to 3:00 a.m. on Monday through Monday through Sunday. So, all right. Thank you. Good. Appreciate it. Thank you. See you next time. All right. Number six, we got uh council introduction of new concept plan from Jim Ko proposed for properties generally located at 6639 6627 and 6625 Bartlett Boulevard in Mound for the development of nine condominiums, four town homes, one single family home, and a dock house amenity being called North Point of Holstead Bay, formerly Holstead Bay Estates. The proposed new concept plan is part of a larger project. Also a minute, Trista. Hey, I don't even have to say anything. There you go. Um, uh, Rita Trap, uh, planning consultant for this city. Uh, just a reminder to yourselves and anybody in the audience who are watching at home. Uh, the city of Mount has a policy that requires any applicants for a subdivision to come in front of the council for a council introduction. Um the applicant was here a few months ago with a council introduction as you said for something uh for a development called Halstead Bay Estates. Um we had received plans we had planned to do a public hearing at the planning commission but the applicant withdrew that application and has submitted uh the north point at Bay for you to review and provide feedback on. So similar to the past um this is a chance for you to provide any feedback comments uh to them prior to submitting any applications. We did notice everybody who had been noticed for the public hearing for the planning commission that that public hearing was canceled and that you would be reviewing this project uh at a high level this evening. Um and so hopefully if there's anybody here they may have comments they wish to share with you. Um we also um you already you read everything about it. It is a project that's located in the southwest corner of the city. Um it is share between Minitrista and Mound. Uh, Minatrista is uh working through their um review process. Though I believe from uh packet materials today, it looks like they're not moving forward this evening as well yet with the public hearing because they are still waiting to receive all of the packet materials that they need for their project. Um this project is different. Can you um they will come and introduce you to it, but there is a difference in how this looks and how it sits on the site. Um so those are some of the things that would be great to have feedback about. Um, and with that, Sarah and I and Matt and Jesse are all available to answer questions if you have them. Um, but otherwise, this is the chance for the developer to provide more information on what they're thinking about. All right. You want to come up, Jim? Sorry. That was quick and efficient. So, thank you. Can you give us your name? Appreciate it. Dean Dvolus, DJ Architecture, 333 Washington Avenue North, Minneapolis, Minnesota. Thank you for taking the time to hear us again uh there at Separate. Originally, when I came before, I had a series of town houses up on the hill. Uh and then more single family homes. And sorry for the gray color. I try to specify two cities, but uh that's why I brought the other one cuz that gray makes a little bit muddy. But anyways, regardless, we when we originally went and proposed the town houses, two things happened. One, the market wanted more views of Lake Minnetonka. And two, this new design provided a lot less hard cover. So, actually, it was probably a win-win in both situations. So, the boat house is still the same as presented from board. Nothing changed there. The there is one single family home that you see in the existing lower right hand corner. Four town houses that uh face the lake and then a nine unit threetory condominium flat roof and its heights is the same as the original town houses because the town houses had a gable. This we're keeping flat roof. So essentially it's the same uh project on the miniatura side update council. Uh they correct they're going to hold it because WSB hadn't finished their review of our work yet and that's the only reason they're going to hold over but we did make some changes to it. Uh we increased the ponding on it uh to incorporate the storm water coming from the farm across way which we could 17 acres. So we adjusted our plan to be able to handle that. So we're getting more fine-tuned in our storm water calculations and the mount side to reduce the hard covercape and organize a pond. You actually be ponding on the miniatura side. So we actually be pulling the water from ours to minister right through that pond system to handle it. So overall uh more green space a little different type of building topology but uh a lot happier in terms of uh potential buyers and what they're seeing in this that because everyone has a view towards the lake the condominium building is a single loaded quarter in the town houses I see will be walk out town houses facing the lake and then the one single family home in the boat house. So essentially that's how we're here uh describing those changes with the packet. Uh you've probably seen it. We have some plary architecture. The boat house stays the same as before. We're still staying with this type of architecture that we're striving for. You see in the imagery. So that's uh continue to be the goal. Uh that's an image of the building with the combination of stone basically that image saw before the scale of it. uh all enclosed parking except some limited surface parking uh within it. Uh you can see it's just three units before per floor all facing a lake single loaded quarter. So, it's a nice product that people like. Again, second floor, uh, third floor right there. Second, third floor. Then here's elevation of the building, all four sides be similar to what's being built in Ministry again with the idea of putting all our density tight against Highway 110 and then trailing down. So, it goes three-story building, two-story townhouse. So, you'll see, and then the single family and boat house. imagery of what the townhouse can be built up in terms architecturally on that and then next slide please. Uh floor plans uh simple four units uh garage on the front walk out town houses uh very simple four-unit uh complex and then the boat house conceiv uh as part of the project. So there's no changes uh uh to that portion of it. So that's a quick summary of the project. So essentially the same but again changed really in the fact that as we started venture into it the two advantages buyers were happier and it reduced our hard cover quite a bit by tightening up the buildings because ton of houses tend to sprawl and this just uh was a lot more easy on the land so to speak. So thank you for again hearing us again for our revisions. Appreciate it. Yeah, I stand for questions, comments. Thank you. Does council have any questions for you? Yeah. Um, it looks like I mean I know that the previous application is kind of irrelevant now, but like the density on the mound portion went down a little bit, right? I know there's less hard cover. The hard cover went down. The density went up just a little bit because of the unit, but the hard cover is a lot less. Got it. Okay. I was trying to do like in my head the amount of town homes that were there before and then Okay, makes sense. No, I I like it. Yeah, it looks really nice. I think they've done a beautiful job. Um I guess I'm a little curious about and you may not know the answer to this, but the runoff that you're talking about that's coming from the farmland. Yeah, they have a culvert or something over here. There is a culvert. So, what we're doing is we work with the con. We're going to put a flow restrictor on the culvert. Okay. So, we can pick up water on the other side. North side. And then we increased our ponding on our side in addition to that. So we took that and incorporated because we don't know when the farm will be developed but we have to deal with it and it's 17.2 acres of the farm that flows towards Ministrista. So that's how we handled it and incorporate it. So we took that in account because people raised concern but we got more specific with it to really narrow down the numbers and tighten up the project. And by doing that, we lost uh one house on the um west side of Hallstead and one on the uh east side and tighten those lots accommodated. So now we can have basically dual ponds right here. We're still keeping the pond up there and the other pond there. So that's how we made it work to take care of that extra runoff. It's lovely. Yeah. You have anything? No. Anything else? No, I think it looks really nice. Okay. Um, I'm going to open up to the public hearing. Okay. Thank you. So, we'll bring you back up if we need to. Thank you. Okay. Um, I'm going to open the public part. So, if you want to come up and say something, give us your name and address and you can try to keep it to three minutes. Hello, my name is Galpislov and I'm the neighbor at 6619. So I believe it's top right corner of the map. Uh top right in m on mound side. Yes. Okay. So the plan is truly nice. Looks good. Uh I just wanted to know how it will affect the neighbors and I think mostly me because it seems like I'm uh I have a joining properties on both sides on west side and on uh excuse me south on both sides. Yeah. So please be nice to your neighbors and I'm sure you would be and uh uh Sarah thank you very much including me in those conversation. Unfortunately before that I didn't know about it. My unit was rental unit and uh I have a tenant there for 10 years. So he is very interested at some point probably will build something myself. So great plan but please keep us all uh included and let us we plan to add a lot of and I don't have a tree plant there to the east a lot of tree to buffer your department because we have to make up cal tree. So we'll be intensifying uh the greenery to the east side of the building. So absolutely. Is it okay that I will contact after the meeting? Oh yeah. You're more than welcome. Thank you. You said 6619, right? Sorry. Yes. What's the street? Okay, I see it now. Okay. Oh, you found it. It took me a while. Hi, this I'm Okay, go ahead. Yep. I'm I'm Jean Foin. I'm from 6705 Holstead Avenue and that's on the Minatrista side. Okay. So, we have a current house there. Um I guess my big concern what is in order to do this they have to get a PUD from both um Mound and Minatrista because what's the current density in your zoning plan for this? Uh this fits the density right Sarah or Rita does this fit our current density because it doesn't it doesn't with the minatristaide as far it would need a PUD and that's and that's like 2.2 two to three and this is almost 6.7 to 7 per acre because that's only 14 acres combining these two properties. Okay. Is that your only question or do you have other ones? No, I'm just wondering what the current density I just have to use the microphone. Um so, uh the density is identified in the comprehensive plan. Yeah. The parcel that most of that condo building is on is currently guided medium density residential. The condo building, we don't have the exact lot configuration and how it all shakes out. Um, so it is likely that the condo building with the townhouse building would meet that density requirements. Actually be a little shy, but that's what we would guide it as because of the type of housing it is. We probably need a comp plan amendment for that additional parcel that came in on the east side because we want them all to be the same. Do you see how the condo building is stretched over two parcels? Yeah, we want that all to be the same. We don't want to have low density on like a strip of it cuz that's what it is guided right now and medium density on the rest of it. So, we'll want to make it consistent. Um, and then the houses on the south side are fine because those are all low density residential. So, for us, we will have to do a plan unit development because that's just how Mound is. We do everything with a plan unit development. So, it'll be a shoreland plan unit development just like we always do. Um, we also need a conditional use permit to do the town houses and the um condo building. Um, we'll need to do some reszoning because of course we have split zoning because we have different zoning in different parcels. So, we'll have to do some things to just get everything cleaned up and tidied up, but the components are there for what we need. It's just they're not all on the correct parcel because now we're kind of putting things on different parcels. So that's our that's our high level without having all of the details likely what will need to happen. But this isn't um significantly different than what the density that we had identified. In fact, for us it's less um because we have so much open space between those condo town houses and then down the hill to the dock house. Um and the dock house doesn't count really as density. So for us, ours is like slotting right in. and it's a little bit shy even um depending on how we break up the lots, but we think it'll work. But we still will have to go through a comp plan amendment and a resoning just because of those things to make everything we wanted to make we wanted to make sense after the fact. Okay. So the semantics are but at the same point the density is right in line with what we had planned for for that other project when we had residued it. Okay. So for us it's a little different than Minatrista just because our densities start higher than theirs. Okay. Right. But it's higher than what it's zoned right now with this density. I understand that one plan and now there is this new plan and there's lower density with the new plan. But overall this is more density than your comprehensive plan. No, that's not what I said. Okay. That's what you wanted. That's what I'm I'm trying to understand. Yeah. No, for us. No, it actually is kind of right in line because it's about two acres or three acres for your side uh for that. It's not exact because of the way that the like we wouldn't count that single family home on the bottom. All those parcels have to get kind of rejiggered rejiggered, but when we did the calculations, it'll be right in line with what we have. So, I'm sorry, but thank you. My my overall concern is just density. I also I think following the comprehensive plan helps you plan because I know both Minatrista and Mound. Most of the people on the Minitrista side are wells. We don't have water right now to to any of unit. Mound does have some public water and there's sewer. There's not storm sewer all in this area. There's big water issues um in on our little tea. So, I definitely want that to be taken care of and just making sure that we have the infrastructure, sewer, water, and and storm sewer to really support this plan cuz there's nothing like this by us. It's all single family homes in this area. Thanks. Um, yeah, and I will say I don't know what you're doing in about 30 minutes, but they're going to be over at Minitrist after this, so you might want to follow them over there. Okay. seriously because that's that's a bigger part that's a bigger portion of the plan is there has been interest so all right can you give us your name and address good evening mayor and council members my name is David Foing I live at 6705 Holstead Avenue um we're just adjacent to the area affected by the the project um I appreciate the opportunity to speak Not in opposition of development itself, but with concern for what this land already does and what we lose if we overlook it. This site serves as a vital natural function. It slows, it holds, it filters water from over 80 acres to 100 acres of land to the north before that water reaches Holstead, the Holstead Bay. It's not unmanaged. It's naturally managed water flows under County Road 110. It collects in a basin west of Holstead Avenue. It crosses to another basin on the east of of the street and it continues down open culverts toward the lake. Replacing this vegetated land with hard surfaces and pipes doesn't improve the system. It bypasses the slow absorption, cooling and filtration that nature provides. That means faster runoff, more erosion, and degraded water quality. I ask the council to see this land for what it is. It's a functioning piece of our community's storm water infrastructure. It's quiet, but it's essential. Before this project moves forward, please request a full environmental review and drainage study, not only for mound, but considering the full scope of what's proposed in Minatrista as well. Let's ensure this development doesn't leave a legacy of damage in its wake, but instead reflects the the care and balance this city strives for. Thank you. Thanks. Anybody else? You guys want to come back up? Yeah. So, just uh in response to clarification. Y we did study the farm and we did meet with the watershed. That's why I said it's 17.2 acres of the farm does drain through Minatrista. We did meet with the watershed and went through the calculations and as to work through that 17 that's how I adjusted the ponding that's why I did the flow restrictor and the culvert underneath 110 to slow the water to increase the absorption to handle that. Yeah. So we did take the account but it's not the 100 acres it's 70.2 too because he they analyzed all the watershed of the farm with um uh the wershed district and that's what 72 is what comes towards us the rest drains in the other various directions. So yeah, we did work that into the process. Okay, that's what I said. So thank you. Thank you. Appreciate it. All right. Um I'm going to close the public comment. All right, so back to council. You guys have any last comments that you want to give them before they move forward with planning? No, it's kind of unique because uh I mean I understand concerns for the whole development, but like you know we have to kind of keep to the mound side, but yeah, it's I don't have anything else to add, but something to think about for Well, I think it's a interesting and challenging development proposal. Um, and I look forward to the review and scrutiny of our planning commission to look more into it. You know, we're always concerned about this issue of the environmental impact. And so it is challenging because we've got two different cities. It looks like our parcel has less impact, but could be greater impact on the other parcel. So, we'll have to work it all out. No, I'm good. I think they've done a great job. Okay. Yeah, I'd say the same thing as I guess everybody. Um, so you know, if you guys move forward, you'll move forward in with our planning committee and uh I don't know if you guys have seen our planning committee, but they're pretty I used I used to be on there. You used to be on there. I was on it. Uh you you were used to be on it. Uh our other council member who's gone uh is on it currently. But um yeah, they're pretty pretty thorough. So hopefully they'll and you'll if you want to come to those meetings as well feel free even though you're minista we invite you out. So um and again I think you guys got to run at 7 but yeah I think you kind of get the check mark for this process anyway and then good luck through your planning. So appreciate the time. Yep. Thank you for coming. Thanks guys. All right. Number seven, we're going to talk about the approval of resolution number 25-52 approving award of bid of million 91,34693 to GH asphalt for the 2025 street and utility project. Good afternoon. Thank you, mayor, members of the council. Matt Bowman, city engineer. So, actually have to look back. So May 19th, we held the bid opening for what we're calling now the street utility project, the 2025 street utility project. So that was the combination of the reconstruction project and then the melon overlay just to make it easier to combine like like activities there. Uh we received four bids, the low bid being GH Asphalt Corp. They're out of Chasa. Um, their bid was 1 million uh $91,346.93 and that is 18% below the engineer's estimate and 59. Is that just It's noisy. If you can hold on just a second. The door the recording is going to get all muffled. Yeah, I can yell if you want. Get my coaching voice out. All right. Thanks, Rita. Thanks, Kevin. All right, so we got a bid. Yeah, so we got a uh we got a good bid. Um there was four bids. Um I think the said yes, the low was 18% below the engineers estimate of $1.3 million. And then I um Jesse, if you'll scroll down a little bit, I kind of broke out the different portions and then where they've kind of stacked up through the process here. The FMP stands for the financial management plan. So if you add all those items up, it was about 1.64 million and then with the low bid um and then our projection for engineering and all that stuff that we're at 1.36 million. So we're we're sitting in pretty good shape there as far as the the total financial package. Um so yeah, we'd recommend a word of bid. Uh, and then after my memo here, the finance director, Noah, just wanted to comment that this will one of one of several pieces that'll be bonded for once we bid the park project. So, got it. Got any questions on that? I can try to answer them. Otherwise, Jesse, you jump in there. Does council have any questions? No. All right. We got a resolution. Someone wants to make a motion for that. Can you see it? It's page 1363. So, we will be issuing a bond issue for this. We did. That's part of the what we did with Okay. That was before I got on. Yep. Okay. All right. Um, I will make a motion for a resolution um 2552 accepting bid for the 2025 street and utility improvement project 251 and 252. All right, got a motion. Can I get a second? Second. Any other discussion? All those in favor, please say I. I. Those opposed. All right, that passes. All right. Thank you. Any other questions? No. All right. Not me. All right. Council member Pew, do you have anything to report? No, except for it's the end of the session and there's no bond bill, so as we all know. So, I guess we're going to have a special meeting soon. Yeah, I guess so. Um, all right. And then, see, Council Member Mcy's out. Council member Costano. Um, I don't have anything personally. Um, I just wanted to talk for a minute if we can about uh what what am I trying to say? Like our um planning for workshops and meetings coming up. I kind of feel like I just don't really know what's Yeah, I'm I feel like I'm behind. But um so we're we should be scheduling a finance committee meeting soon so that we can have a workshop as a council before our second June meeting. Is that right? Okay. Okay, cool. I guess that was tracking. Um, so can you shoot the committee uh an email or are you I don't want to lose track of it. So I mean we would have to meet like I mean I can meet you Thursday. Um like this Thursday. Next Thursday. I don't care. I mean I can but yeah I just wanted to get it planned. I mean if it was the following Thursday that'd probably be fine too but um why don't you just email us for Maggie and Noah's planning. They might want more than a couple days, but if we could do it in the next week or the week after, I think that's kind of when we have to, right? Yeah. And then depending on what we figure out there, we're going to want to do a workshop with the council. Yep. Do we want to plan that since Yeah, we should just plan because you'll it'll be the June 26th or 27th meeting, whatever that is. Uh 24th June 24th, 5:00 p.m. Yeah. Will that you want to do a workshop before that meeting? Yeah, I think we kind of need to. Okay. Yeah. Y are you guys you go with that? I think I'm gone that week. Oh, um you're out of the second meeting in June. In June, you're done. I might be. Yeah. What about Can you check? Could it be the first in July? The first meeting in July then or is that not that that would work? I'm just saying is that is that right is that the right timetable? What about the week the off week? The week Yeah, the off week would work like the 20th. Oh yeah, I guess we can do it in the off week. 18th or whatever it is. Yeah, I don't want to do it on an off week. No, I know. But do we have to decide that right now? I think first we need to get the workshop scheduled in the next two weeks. Yeah. And then how much notice do we have to give for the public meeting then? We have to three days, right? Three days. Is that okay? But if we don't we don't want to is there any reason we can't wait till the 1 July meeting? The whole point was that we wanted to have like a workshop as a full council and if it can wait I mean I guess that's fine but the second meeting. Yeah that's the 8th July 8th. I I'd like a little bit more time before the 22nd. Plus that's July 4th. Oh I see. Okay. Plus July 4th. Yeah. Anybody's off that following week, too. Yeah. And I'm gone the 10th week. So, I mean, I can do the 17th. I I know nobody wants to come here when you don't have to, but Yeah. I'm fine either way. I mean, it would be ideal to have everyone there, but I guess we should make sure that Kathy's available then, too, if it's going to be in an off week. Well, do we want to just pencil it in for now? Well, let's make sure we have our finance committee meeting probably next week, you know, to give Maggie and Noah time to prep for that. Sorry. You know what I mean? Yeah. So, we probably shouldn't do it this Thursday, but we should schedule our finance committee meeting for next week. Yeah. And then decide, you know, we'll maybe hear from from Kathy and find out. We don't want to have Kathy and Sherry not there. Mhm. So, are we okay penciling it for 17th for now? Penciling. Okay. 6 p.m. So, it would be June 17th or 6 p.m. June 17th. Yeah. Okay. Workshop. Jesse, you good with it? Be here. Seems fine. Okay. Um, is that anything else? Um, I guess just making sure that I was tracking for that and then um I know we kind of talked about this for like a second before, but is there anything we can do um to kind of accelerate or improve like when you we were just there tonight like in Lost Lake, like the area where the grass is, you kind of see where it's doing fine and then where it's all of a sudden not like is there anything that we can do to like kind of help that along or is there a plan that I don't know about? So because they attempted to cover the ground so late last year that nothing really took and so it's on the punch list. They basically have to re seed the entire area. Okay. So that's what we're going to do. Yeah. So now the irrigation is in and active. So that will help kind of with timing. So but yeah, nothing nothing really established. So we're we're not walking away yet, but cool. Realize it looks not great. Irrigation and OP. I mean, is it operational or is it just Yeah, that's what I'm I'm told it's working. Yeah. So, you guys have the plan is to like reed and do all that stuff. Yep. Okay, cool. Yep. Awesome. Thank you. That's all I got. Okay. Um, just a comment on that, too, is Yeah, I mean, it doesn't look great, and that's part of why we wanted to accelerate this whole park thing is we had Danny lines before, and it seems like we have those again. So, I mean, I do remember everything going down so late last year, though. Yeah, there's no way around that. The last thing we need is, you know, we just put this thing in. Now, we have just another Daniel Lfield. So, I don't know if you guys public works can stay on top of that or what you can do to minimize the damage because it looks, you know, we're over there for the ribbon cutting and it like I know you get, you know, overseed and all that fun stuff, but like Yeah. Basically, we're not accepting accepting it right now. They have a pretty high threshold of what they need to get it to look what they need to get it to grow to before we accept it. And so, until that point, they won't get fully paid out either. Okay. Well, whatever we can do to stay on top of that process so it starts looking good and then start mowing it so it looks people are using the prominade though. I was there on Saturday for the farmers market and there were folks who were coming into the market on that prominade walkway. So that was kind of nice. So people are are enjoying it the space and utilizing it. What information have we gotten back from that survey that they're doing on Survey Monkey? Sharon, do you know have we what's the term that's going to be out there? The length of time? No, I don't have anything on that. That Yeah, that was that's being run by us as well. Oh, it's you. Okay. Um, well, I think we just put those signs up last week, so we'll leave them up for another week or two, I think. And I haven't seen any I haven't heard of what the results are yet when we get back. I'm a little curious why we're doing that when we already spent 20ome thousand dollars doing a survey and now we're doing this online which I know isn't an expense but yeah it's just to fine-tune a couple of the pieces that we brought to the parks commission that there wasn't necessarily a strong feeling on those things and just get a little more community involvement. Okay. I have I have a question now. As I was walking around Mound this week, um I noticed that on the US Bank that the sidewalk has been colorized. Is that correct? That it's a gray coloration. It's the only place where I saw color that we're supposed to get into the sidewalks. I mean, it was actually nice for me walking on it, I have to admit. But that's the only place I saw it like along 110 or on the on the the sidewalk that um is right up in the driveway along the driveway in the US Bank on the building or like along on along the building on the street. That's it was just one little section that was painted gray to match the adjoining. Well, you know, we're all all of our sidewalks are supposed to get painted a color. There's supposed to be a color. Well, they mixed in the the tint. Yeah. Yeah. That's That is a tint. That is it, right? That's been done. Yeah. Yeah. It's kind of like that reddish tint or whatever, right? Looks great to me. But, you know, so why are the other segments so white? Why are they not matching up? I mean, we do like a hodge podge when you They haven't been colorized yet. If it's the old ones, then maybe they're white. But if it's No, these are the ones that they replaced recently. I don't know. I have to look. Yeah, I don't know. I do know that they can tint it. Obviously, my sidewalks tinted, so I know. But yeah, I mean, it'd be nice if they were a little bit more consistent. It does look kind of sloppy. Okay. Council Heric, do you have anything? No. I know if we're going to talk about the finance thing, I'm a little concerned about the fact that we're not going to probably get any funding from the state. So, what's our next plan B? Yep. So, I mean, I'm sure that we'll discuss that once you all have your meeting. All right. Well, that's on my list. Oh, and I did talk to the lady um from Three Rivers and Mr. Anderson, and there's recommendations about getting some trees and stuff. I know I asked a couple weeks ago, maybe a month ago, excuse me, about the trees along the road there. And there is some guidelines and stuff obviously um that is Henipin County. Yeah. But he's willing to work with us to try to find some trees that would go back and hit that boulevard. Okay. And even possibly put it where the new crosswalk is. Maybe provide a little bit of shade right there while people are waiting to cross. Yeah. Um I'm not sure that they'll just give them to us, but at least they'll work with us. They have resources that we can probably buy those trees from at a lesser cost than if we bought them in the open market. remember that when we were talking about the park? Yeah. Yeah. And the park too. And they also, the lady from Three Rivers said that, you know, they could definitely work with us on the signage. And they also have information, plans, and drawings for the band stand type area um that they would be give willing to give to us for free so we wouldn't have to pay an architect to come up with a design. Nice. So maybe we can request some of those just so we can take a look at them. Cool. and they'll know cost. So, they'll get be able to give us an estimate for cost and Right. Um, all right. So, on the the whole water thing, um, yeah, I've been talking Well, you all just saw Representative Myers tonight. Um, yeah, not obviously great news, but um, now, unless I missed it, are aren't they still doing a special session? They're doing special session, but they did not come to any agreement on doing a bonding bill. Right. There was the Senate had a proposal. The House did not accept it or respond to it. So, as far as I know, bonding is totally not on the agenda. What they're working on now is the budgets for I think it's four different agencies, the biggest of which is human services, right? And once they once they get the budgets done, then the governor will call a special session. But he won't call until all the budgets are done. Okay. LA. So I last time I talked to him, the session just ended. This is when I talked to him about the water thing and he said, "Well, the there's a Hail Mary version that we potentially could get in a special session. We could still do a bonding boat, but you're saying that it's not looking well like it's gonna happen. not looking real well. Yeah. I mean, you know what we don't hear? We don't hear anyone talking about compromise, you know, or let's do something for the common good. That's not in the conversation on either side. Um, and so, you know, until you get people talking about that, how are you going to get there? Well, I talked to both our senator and our rep. Yeah. again last week right after right around the time that the session was coming to an end. The senator is ready for a bond bill. She is. Last I talked to her. Well, look, I think they're both are. But here's the So, the problem that you you know, you talk to our senator, she says, "Well, we want the bigger 1.2 billion or whatever, right? You got to convince everybody else that we want that." And then I talked to Representative Myers and you know, he wants he wants to help us out, too. He's like, "I'll vote for the bonding bill, you know, if we can get it in there." Um, and then he even said, maybe this is talking out of church, but he's like, you know, I'm getting in trouble for my people because I'm want to help out my cities. You know, at the end of the day, that's his job, both of them. And I told him, I said, I'm going to throw both of you under the bus because you're not helping us out. And I said, you know, to to to Representative Myers, I said, you have nine cities that you're responsible for. And if if I was him, this is what I said. I wouldn't vote for anything unless it had my nine cities best interest in it. You're not working for the whole state. You're working for our nine cities. Yeah. Right. Well, he's got to convince his colleagues to come. He's got to get some of his colleagues to cross over and look out for their cities, too. I mean, there are other cities, but you know, so again, that's like I said, no one's talking compromise. Well, and if I was Sam, I wouldn't be compromising if it's not going to help our cities at all. I'm Well, I'm saying compromise in the sense of compromise to get something to help our cities. And then same thing on the on, you know, when I'm talking to the senator there, same thing too. I'm like, you know, what if she has 27 cities or, you know, whatever. Yeah. And it's, you know, well, see, the Senate has something. I mean, they've got a proposal out there, you know. I don't know. I'm pretty upset with both of them to be honest. Um because both were saying, well, I will say Representative Myers was telling us from the start, it's going to look it's going to be pretty tough chore, but you know, I don't know. We heard a little bit of excitement from both sides, from both of them. Um but we knew that it was going to be a pretty sobering chore if if it even worked out. So um anyway, which brings us to the potential plan B. Um you know, do do we want to take this on ourselves, right? Is there anything that we can be doing? Now again, that's what we're doing um with our finance committee to see if we can, you know, can we use some uh franchise fees to offset, you know, can we do something with the levy? Can we do something with the utility bill without you know and then also can we stay on track with our uh financial plan right so I mean it's a lot of working parts and there's going to be some maybe tough choices or maybe not tough choices I mean this is the biggest you know I see some of the comments on Facebook and they're like you know do your uh your park you know they're like well I want a splash pad and by the way I want to fix the water they don't care about the park they want to fix the water right and maybe that's something we do we Well, we do phase one and we don't do phase two or three and we just focus all our energy on water. I don't know. But um that was kind of the point of our um workshop coming up was for council member Harris's question is like to come to the have the have the finance committee meeting and then come to the workshop with like multiple good, better, best. Yeah. And again, we've looked at, you know, some stuff in the in the committee, the finance committee about, you know, what what are some options, you know, with franchise fees with um again, just so people don't know, you can use franchise fees kind of however you want, right? And you can use the liquor store money however you want, right? But you can't use like the levy money, right, for our utility bills. So, the biggest thing that I'm worried about, and I think um Devin as well, is that the last thing we want to do is have your water bill just be horrendous. At the same point, I think people are like, "Yes, I'll pay a little bit more to finally fix our problem. You know, we have a water issue and the state's not looking like they want to help us, although they tell us we can't use." No city's ever got it done for free. Yeah. Well, and you know, Northfield can say no, but and maybe we can say no, too. But you know, do we all just do our own thing and you're responsible for yourself or should water be drinkable at the top like every other city? It's an essential service. It's an essential service. So anyway, I think we've, you know, us um Jesse, Noah, Maggie, um Ellers, I mean, we've done some pretty hard work behind the scenes of what else can we be doing that keeps us on track. That's still going to be a hard decision to Well, until the rest of us see what the done, you know, it's kind of hard for us to respond. We all want hard work. We want to resolve this water issue. Yeah. I mean, that's that's the issue. I mean, we're like the new Flint, you know. I hate to say it that way, but that's what it's feeling like, you know? And I will say there's 66 other Flints. Yeah. In Minnesota. So, just I know we're not we're not the only one. There's a lot of And actually, I think more are you're hearing some cities, you know, on the news lately, right, with with Northfield or whatever. Um, yeah, at least we, you know, we got on top of it right away. Sent the letter, you know. Um, but it's exhausting after what, four years, you know, right? And we've made very little progress. Well, you know, we did get 10 million. We did get another million. Look at our streets are all ripped up right now. We could We're working on it. We could start working on some more federal money. It's not going to be the big chunk that we need, but every little bit helps, right? And we did submit for the next was it four million that we put for the next year. We're uh well this year's was was a originally a $4.1 million ask that got chipped down to 3.1 that became a little over one then then that went away. We are negotiating a little bit behind the scenes right now as far as what our technically what our ask is going to be. It'll be probably more like seven or eight. Seven or eight. Okay. from the federal side and we have support with Morrison and Smith and Cloverar. So um they did get us the one million almost one million. So hopefully we can do that. But again I mean the main uh commerce is is torn up right now for the pipes. I know tying them together. So we are making progress. I will say that and we have gotten some money. I think we're just at a crossing the road. It's just like we either got to tell our residents here's the deal. we're going to keep waiting for funding and just hold your breath until we get, you know, more funding from, you know, the state or no, we're going to tackle this on our own and this is what it's going to mean for everybody and this is, you know, our plan B, you know. So, and you know, in the newsletter, and I know we all talked about this, on the 22nd of July, uh we've invited everybody to come out um and you know, do an update and we'll have both of them do something and we'll show our finance numbers and see what we all want to do. We probably won't make a decision that night, but at least we'll have kind of a conversation about it. Um and then of course, we're going to have a workshop before we even get to that that far, so you guys will kind of see what we're talking about. Anyway, Um, all right. And then, uh, thank you for, uh, covering me last time, and unfortunately, I'm out next time again. Then I should be here forever. So, for whatever reason, it just didn't work out. So, I appreciate you covering me. Um, we almost had a short meeting here, but we're talking about Jesse, thank you for uh, coordinating the ribbon cutting. You did a great job. A lot of people showed up. We had the police, we had the fire, we had, you can see up there, um, our attorney came. Just making sure you did it right. Yeah. Um, so scissors involved. Yeah. Yeah, you brought the scissors. Nobody was running. So with scissors. That's good. I almost stabbed you. I know. That's common. Every time I'm right, I get too close. Yeah. Anyway, so appreciate y'all coming out to do the uh the ribbon cutting. And that was a pretty good picture. Uh we thought why not? You know, we worked on this thing for multiple years. Um I said this when I was there, but this is the first thing actually when I said I wanted to run for council. Um I made a little video and it was all about this the trail crossing. If you ever want to see it, let me know. I'll show it to you. It a little clip art picture thing. But um pretty cool that we got it done through multiple councils, multiple mayors or mayor two mayors, I guess. Um, two attorneys, two commissioners. Uh, we had the other commissioner. Now we have two, well, one's still the same. Kevin Anderson Latansa. Yep. Um, a lot of work went into it with the city, the staff, public works, uh, all you guys. So, again, I appreciate it. [Music] Um, yeah, I think that's all I really have, too. So, there's nothing else. No. All right. I'll uh uh take a motion to adjurnn. Oh, sorry. Do you have anything? Number nine. You know, I thought it might come up, but apparently it didn't, so I'll just do it anyway. But um the county is compelling the flats uh developers to do some safety features while they do construction. So, there's going to be uh a temporary sidewalk installed along the east side of that road in that neighborhood while they closed the the west uh the the current sidewalk that's actually there. Yeah. Um I think they weren't thrilled with the sight lines coming around the corner with the trucks and stuff. So, I think signs went out today. So, I'm thought we'd hear about it. Um but apparently we didn't. So, I think there are signs up along right on the church side. Yeah. Say no parking. Yep. There's more and I think there was more that was going up today, but that's county-led thing. They just I guess it's a safety features that'll be there during construction and then go away when they're built. Is there anything going on with that the old like the building right next to it too? The Williams building. A lot of stuff coming and going. Yeah. From the Williams building. Nothing that Okay. Nothing that rise to our level. They're moving out. Yeah. Well, I heard Mr. Lang bought the two houses next to that piece of property. Yeah, that's what I've heard, too. William store owner bought the two north. Oh, he bought Oh, really? Oh, that's terrible. That's horrible news for us. No, seriously. Well, I mean, yeah, I don't think he has any intentions of working with developer. No, no, he's just trying to get more money out of us. Yeah, that's what it's about. He has no intentions of working with that developer. We're We will not We're not buying the land. That's not our land. That's right. But if he's listening to this, uh, you know, let's work on Well, beware because the one house next to the Williams should probably be torn down, too. It's already in bad. Yeah. I feel bad I brought it up, but it was maybe it went the other way. It looked like everything. Yeah. Well, one of them is in Wow. the one right next to there were also some large barrels of dirt placed on the sidewalk which I see he's pushed back but I don't think he's off the sidewalk yet. Anyway, if you're listening to this uh and you want to do some development, we're we're open to talking about development. So, um and I know actually the flats I know have reached out to his attorney and they're trying to work some deals out. So, um hopefully we'll never know. Um, one last thing since we have Matt. Um, we're doing a pork chop on shore or commerce, right? Uh, where the trail other trails. Yeah, the countyy's putting in another median landing zone. Um, changing the lane configuration there. So, instead of two drive lanes going each direction, it'll be down to one. Yes. So, they're changing that out. So it'll be similar to what we just the ribbon cutting for. Yeah. Now, is there a timeline on that at all? It's after the resurfacing. Oh, okay. So, I did mention that. Awesome. Supposed to be before was the last episode. Oh, probably before and then they resurf after. Sorry. Yeah. Yep. But it should be this summerish into the fall, right? Yeah. See, somewhere the next So, it's going to take that down to one lane that I think we should reduce the speed. Yeah. No, it'll be it'll be a good thing. It the way traffic backs up in the mornings and I mean, you got to think it's like it's one lane. People are just turning, right? But it's one lane at 19 and 15 and that's a very They're only going two miles. I mean, two miles and they're out of our town. We don't need all that. Anyway, it it'll be for safety purposes and like this. I thought people were going to have a fit about that. It was hard for me to even say cuz remember they the Bolton man came out like, "Well, you know, you got to go two to one." And we're like, "How can we keep two?" Yeah. They weren't really. Then I thought, you know what? When I drive from basically miniaturista all the way out and you drive all the way to Wisetta, it's basically one with turns. Right. Right. Well, it's basically almost the same thing north and south with turns. So much wider intersection. I don't We'll see. But first of all, we don't have a choice, right? But I will say we've been complaining about it for four years to them. Oh, I see. And I'm excited. So, um I can't wait till it's done. And then the other thing too, and I did just talk to our commissioner um and our uh Three Rivers. They're the from what I understand, Flashers weren't part of this yet, right? What was it? I don't know for sure. Okay. We want Flashers. Oh, there too. Cuz I was driving with my brother-in-law to go pick up a pizza from Domino's, right, for our kids' birthday parties. Seriously. We come from my house, we go down and then I said, "Hey, hey, hey, you gotta stop because there's a person right on the bike trail, right?" And he goes, you know, he of course slams, you know, okay, he stops. And I said, "See the sign?" He goes, "No, I can't see that. Nobody sees that sign. You know, that little thing that says you got to stop for, you know, it's better than nothing." He's like, "Dude, someone's gonna get smoked on this." And I said, "Well, I know. That's why we're working on it and we're gonna, you know, the countyy's going to put in a pork chop." So, um, that again, I think you got to have flashers as we just saw with that kid on the scooter. He didn't push the button. We have to encourage them to use them. You got to use it. Yeah. Well, he was over the grass, too. I know. Cuz we're all sitting in the way. So, right over brand new grass, but all those witnesses didn't encourage him to use a I was yelling. They were running looked and he was like, "Leave me alone." Yeah. Like, I'm too cool for flashers. Anyway, but again that is coming and is there any way that we can get like a mockup what what that's going to look like and we can send it to council or something. I can ask for the um the high level view of that again. Okay. Um they did say they're looking to start that mid June is the last note ahead of that and that's going to create its own detour because they're going to look to close that whole part of the road down. Right. Well, we're doing some boring too, right? on that whole road. Congress that that would be when we do phase two water main yeah part of it yet but yeah that's out that's a ways out until we get all the funding and the the other plants I figured out. Oh okay. So that's we're not worried about that this summer. Not likely. Okay. Yeah. Okay. All right. Once we get all this done though then they can't touch it for five years. All right. Okay. Sorry. Is that it then? All right. Take a motion to adjourn. So moved. Can I get a second? All right. Any other discussion? All those in favor, please say I. I. Those opposed. All right. We're journ.