>>COUN. BENTON: GOOD EVENING. THE 21st MEETING OF THE 25th COUNCIL WILL COME TO ORDER. I BELIEVE ALL COUNCILORS ARE PRESENT VIA ZOOM VIDEO CONFERENCE. WE'LL START WITH THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE IN ENGLISH LED BY COUNCILOR DAVIS AND IN SPANISH LED BY COUNCILOR BASSAN. >> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. >>COUN. BASSAN: [ RECITING IN SPANISH ]. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU, COUNCILORS. MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, CITY STAFF AND THE MEDIA HAVE THE ABILITY TO VIEW THIS ON LIVE STREAMS THROUGH FOUR DIFFERENT PLATFORMS. GOVTV, THE GOVTV WEBSITE, AND ZOOM. THE LIVE STREAMS CAN BE ACCESSED FROM MOST START PHONES TABLETS AND COMPUTERS. THIS MEETING IS CLOSED CAPTIONED AND YOU MAY ENABLE THIS ON YOUR INTEGRITY VISION OR DEVICE. VIDEO RECORDING OF THIS AND ALL PAST MEETINGS ARE AVAILABLE FOR VIEWING ON THE CITY COUNCIL'S WEBSITE. IF YOU NEED ASSISTANCE WITH THAT, PLEASE CALL DURING WORKING HOURS MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, 768-3100 FOR ASSISTANCE. THE COUNCIL WILL TAKE A BREAK AT APPROXIMATELY 7:00. WE WANT TONIGHT'S PROCEEDING TO BE AS CIVIL AND RESPECTFUL. DO NOT MAKE ANY PERSONAL ATTACKS. WE WANT TO BE RESPECTFUL TO ONE ANOTHER AND HAVE A SMOOTH MEETING. WE HAVE A LENGTHY AGENDA. WE'RE GOING TO STARTED WITH PROCLAMATIONS AND PESENTATION. STARTING WITH COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN AND THEN COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: TONIGHT I ASKED FOR A PRESENTATION ON COMPLETE STREETS ORDINANCE. THIS IS AN ORDINANCE THAT THE COUNCIL PASSED BEFORE I BECAME A MEMBER THAT REQUIRED PERFORMANCE MEASURES AND STAFF TRAINING ON COMPLETE STREETS. THERE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A PRESENTATION TO THE COUNCIL. I DON'T THINK THAT EVER HAPPENED. I'M TRYING TO GET UP TO SPEED ON HOW WE'RE DOING ON THE IMPLEMENTATION. WE HAVE JENNIFER, THE ASSOCIATE DIRECTOR FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF MUNICIPAL DEVELOPMENT AND VALRY, THE STRATEGIC PROGRAM MANAGER TO PRESENT TONIGHT. I HOPE WE HAVE THEM HERE. >> THEY'RE NOT ON ZOOM. >> WE'RE IN THE MAYOR'S CONFERENCE ROOM. >> WE HAVE OUR PRESENTATIONS UPLOADED. DO YOU HAVE A COPY? >> UNFORTUNATELY, WE DO NOT. WE DID NOT RECEIVE THAT. YOU CAN SHARE YOUR SCREEN, IF YOU WOULD LIKE. >> I HAVE A FLASH DRIVE. IS THERE A WAKE TO PLUG IN A FLASH DRIVE? MR. PRESIDENT, I DO HAVE THE PRESENTATION I CAN SHARE WITH MR. CORNEALIOUS. IT WOULD TAKE A MINUTE TO GET TO THEM. WHAT'S YOUR PREFERENCE, WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO SEND IT TO YOU? OR JUST PLUG IN? >> PLEASE SEND IT TO ME. >> I'LL DO THAT NOW. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BENTON: WE'LL GET STARTED AS SOON AS WE HAVE THAT UP. [ INAUDIBLE ]. >> MR. PRESIDENT, WE'RE STILL HAVING PROBLEMS WITH THAT DOCUMENT. AND OUR ACCESS TO TO BE ABLE TO OPEN IT, SHANNA, IF YOU'RE ABLE TO OPEN IT PERHAPS YOU CAN SHARE YOUR SCREEN. >> MR. PRESIDENT, MR. MELENDREZ, I'M HAVING THE SAME ISSUES. I'M SORRY, ASSOCIATE DIRECTOR, YOU SENT A MICROSOFT SHARE FILE THAT REQUIRES A LOG-IN. ARE YOU ABLE TO SEND A PDF DIRECTLY? >> I WAS UNABLE TO SEND THE PDF BECAUSE -- >>COUN. BENTON: I'M GOING TO SUGGEST -- >> THE FILE WAS TOO LARGE. I APOLOGIZE. I STENT -- STENT IT THAT WAY. I APOLOGIZE WEARE -- WE'RE HAVING THE PROBLEM. >>COUN. BENTON: LET'S GO TO THE PRESENTATION BY APD AND WE'LL SEE IF WE CAN, IN THE MEANTIME, GET THE PRESENTATION WHERE WE CAN SEE THE SLIDES. WE'LL GO TO COUNCILOR BASSAN'S PRESENTATION ON APD OPEN SPACE. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I AM WANTING TO HEAR FROM A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT SIDES OF APD BASED OFF OF SOME OF THE INFORMATION I'VE BEEN ABLE TOOBE TAIN IN THE LAST WEEK OR TWO. AND REGARDING THE OPEN SPACE UNIT. AND IT'S DISBANDMENT. WE ASKED -- I'VE BEEN IN CONVERSATION WITH COUNCILOR GROUT AS WELL. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WANTING TO HAVE A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES. AND WE HAVE RETIRED OPEN SPACE OFFICER ANTHONY MARTINEZ WHO SAID HE WOULD PRESENT TO THE COUNCIL. AND TO THE PUBLIC. REGARDING THE WHAT OPEN SPACE DOES. HE DESCRIBED SOMETHING HE PUT TOGETHER WITH THE OPEN SPACE ABOUT WHAT THEY DID AND THEY WOULD PRESENT IT TO DIFFERENT SCOUTING GROUPS OR OTHER ORGANIZATIONS. SO, I WAS HOPING WE COULD HEAR FROM HIM AND GET THE PRESENTATION HE WOULD GIVE TO SOME OF THE GROUPS AND THEN WE COULD HEAR FROM POLICE CHIEF MEDINA REGARDING THE QUESTIONS THAT I HAD AND COUNCILOR GROUT EXPRESSED CONCERN AS WELL. MR. MARTINEZ, WELCOME. AND THANK YOU FOR TAKING TIME TO SHARE WITH US. IF YOU'RE WILLING TO GO AHEAD AND GIVE A SHORT PRESENTATION, THAT WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED. >> WONDERFUL. THANK YOU FOR THAT. I JUST WANT TO THANK ALL OF THE CITY COUNCIL, THE CHIEF IS HERE AND THE MAYOR FOR ALLOWING ME TO CHAT ON THE DAY IN THE LIFE OF OPEN SPACE AND WHAT WE DO. I SPENT 15 YEARS THERE. A BIG PART OF MY LIFE CHANGING THINGS FOR THE BETTER AND COMMUNITY POLICING. IF YOU'RE GOOD, I CAN SHARE THE SCREEN. ALL RIGHT. I HAVE HEAD NODS. I DO TALK LOT. CUT ME OFF AT ANY TIME. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. MARTINEZ, KEEP IT TO ABOUT 10 MINUTES OR LESS. THAT WOULD BE PREFERRED. >> I CAN DEFINITELY DO THAT. SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES WOULD DISAGREE WITH ME ON THAT. I TALK A LOT. ARE YOU SEEING THE SCREEN? >>COUN. BASSAN: I CAN'T SEE IT ON MY END. >> I THINK I'M DOING IT WRONG. IT'S TAKING A SECOND. IT'S NOT WORKING? NOW CAN YOU SEE IT? >>COUN. BASSAN:UATE YET. -- NOT YET. IN THE MEANTIME, IF YOU WANT TO, OR I SEE MR. MELENDREZ. >> MR. PRESIDENT, I WAS GOING TO SAY MR. MARTINEZ IS HAVING TECHNICAL TROUBLE AND HE CAN EMAIL IT TO US AND TRY TO HANDLE THAT WAY. >> OKAY. >> MY EMAIL ADDRESS IS GCORNELIUS @ CABQ.GOV. >> THAT'S OKAY. YOU'RE GOING TO MISS PICTURES, I CAN GO OFF THIS. >>COUN. BENTON: YEAH, THAT'S FINE. >> ANYWAY, I'LL JUST START WITH OUR MISSION AS AN OPEN SPACE OFFICER. WE'RE OUT THERE TO PROTECT, MAINTAIN, MANAGE SIGNIFICANT NATURAL LANDSCAPES AND CULTURAL RESOURCES FOR PRESENT AND FUTURE GENERATIONS TO COME WHILE WE'RE OUT THERE. OFFICERS ARE OUT THERE MAKING CONTACT WITH THE PUBLIC, EDUCATING THEM. OVERSEEING COMPLIANCE, LAWS, RULES AND REGULATIONS WHILE WE'RE OUT THERE EVERY SINGLE DAY. IT'S A DUAL MISSION. THEIR MISSION IS TO PROTECT THE OPEN SPACE LAND AND THE RESOURCES AND ALSO ENJOY MAKING SURE THEY HAVE A SAFE AND ENJOYABLE VISIT WHILE PEOPLE ARE OUT THERE USING THESE OPEN SPACE DEALS. BEING THAT I GUESS YOU CAN ALL OPEN SPACE IS IT'S OWN LITTLE DEAL. IF YOU'RE A POLICE OFFICER YOU LIVE IN A NEIGHBORHOOD AND SEE AN OFFICER DRIVE THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, MAYBE RIDE THEIR BIKE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT TO TAKE THE CALL, WELL, WHETHER IT'S UP BY THE MOUNTAINS, BY THE RIVER, IN THE MESA, IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFICULT TO RESPOND FOR THE SERVICE. MAYBE IT'S A CALL FOR HELP, DOMESTIC VIAS SOON AS VIOLENCE, THEY HAVE TO USE MOUNTAIN BIKES OR PATROL. THEY SPEND QUITE A FEW HOURS HIKING ON FOOT PATROL. THEY USE A HAIR BOAT, HOVER CRAFT, ATV, AND MOTORCYCLES. SOME ARE CERTIFIED ON THE HORSE MOUNTED UNIT. AND ANOTHER DEAL OF RESPONSIBILITY FOR OPEN SPACE OFFICERS IS SEARCH AND RESCUE. I KNOW WHEN YOU SAY SEARCH A RESCUE YOU'RE LIKE POLICE OFFICER THAT SOUNDS A LITTLE BIT FUNNY. THAT CAN MEAN ANYTHING. A CHILD THAT WANDERED BY THE RIVER. SOMEBODY THAT IS HAVING A MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS UP ON THE MOUNTAIN AND MAY NOT NEED A RESCUE, BUT THEY NEED A NEED AN OFFICER TRAINED IN CRISIS NEGOTIATION. THAT IS WHAT WE DO. WE'RE ALWAYS AVAILABLE TO RESPOND TO THOSE WITHIN ALBUQUERQUE METRO AREA. WHETHER THAT'S CITY, MAYBE ELDERLY PERSON WALKED AWAY OR ANY PLACE IN THE TRAIL SYSTEM. THAT CAN INCLUDE HIGH ANGLE RESCUE, QUITE A BIT OF TRACKING SKILLS. A LOT OF THE GUYS ARE EMT BASICS. WHEN YOU CALL AND YOU'RE OUT IN THE MIDDLE OF NOWHERE AN OFFICER MIGHT BE THE FIRST TO GET THERE. IT'S NICE THESE OFFICERS HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF THAT MEDICAL TRAINING AND HELP SAVE THE DAY AND GET THINGS GOING BEFORE THE MEDICAL HELP ARRIVES. RIVER SEARCHES, WILDERNESS BACK COUNTRY, PATROLS, URBAN SEARCHES, SEARCHING FOR LOST KIDS, ELDERLY PEOPLE. ANOTHER DEAL THAT THEY DO IS THE DIVE TEAM. WHAT HAPPENS IS IF YOU GET A CRIME, SOMEBODY THROWS A GUN IN THE RIVER OR THERE'S EVIDENCE, MAYBE IT'S TINGLY BEACH OR ONE OF THE DITCHES OR GOLF COURSE POND, OFFICERS ARE HIGHERLY TRAINED AND THEY CAN ACTUALLY GO IN THERE AND LOOK FOR THAT EVIDENCE OR PERSON THAT MIGHT BE DOWN THERE. I THINK ACTUALLY HAD A MISSION NOT TOO LONG AGO WHERE THE HOMICIDE UNIT REQUESTED THEM AND THEY HAD TO LOOK FOR SOME STUFF IN A BODY OF WATER. I TALKED ABOUT THE EVIDENCE SEARCH, EVIDENCE RECOVERY, AND GOD FORBID ANY TYPE OF A BODY RECOVERY. THEY'RE CONSIDERED AN FEMA RESOURCE. THEY GIVE A LOT OF MONEY TO THOSE THAT CAN RESPOND TO NATURAL DISASTERS. WE CHECK A LOT OF THOSE BOXES WHEN IT COMES TO HAVING A TEAM OUT THERE TO TAKE CARE OF THAT. OFFICERS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR PATROLLING ROUGHLY 230,000 ACRES OF LAND AROUND THE METROPOLITAN AREA. THIS IS ACTUALLY LAND THAT THE CITY OWNS. IT'S THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE OPEN SPACE. THIS IS ALL -- IF YOU WERE TO CALL 911 FOR WHATEVER REASON IT IS, MAYBE YOU'RE LOST OR SEEING GRAFFITI. ANY TYPE OF LAW ENFORCEMENT CALL, THESE ARE THE OFFICERS THAT RESPOND. THEY ARE PREPARED TO STAY OUT AT ANY GIVEN TIME AND GET THE JOB DONE. JUST BEING PROACTIVE ON PATROL WITH A HOVER CRAFT, ATV, AND PREVENTING FIRES FROM BECOMING A HUGE PROBLEM AND DESTROYING HOMES AND LAND. GAME AND FAGS LAWS, THERE'S THERE'S GAMES AND FISH LAW. THAT'S ABOUT IT ON THOSE. GIVE ME A SECOND ON THOSE. THEY ASSIST WITH RIVER AND OPEN SPACE LAND CLEAN UP. THEY'RE OUT THERE HELPING WITH DIFFERENT COMMUNITY EVENTS. OPEN SPACE SPONSORS CLEAN UP EVENTS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. THESE OFFICERS ARE HAND AND HAND WITH THE CITIZENS OF ALBUQUERQUE. THE PEOPLE THAT PAY THEIR TAXES, THE PEOPLE OUT THERE USING THE AREAS WITH THEIR KIDS. MAYBE THEIR CROSSCOUNTRY TEAM IS HELPING. THER HELPING THEM PICKING UP TRASH. JUST BEING A GOOD PART OF THE COMMUNITY AND ENJOYING THE PEOPLE OUT THERE. THEY RESPOND TO A LOT OF REMOTE LOCATIONS. FOR ANY TYPE OF CALL FOR SERVICE. UTILIING ALL THE TYPES OF EQUIPMENT. COMMUNITY EVENTS. I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MANY I HAVE BEEN TO, BUT IT'S ABSOLUTELY ONE OF THE BEST THINGS TO DO. I SEE THE KIDS AND TALK ABOUT WHAT WE DO AND EDUCATE THE PUBLIC ON BEING SAFE OUT THERE AND HOW TO CALL 911 OR ANYTHING THEY MIGHT SEE OUT THERE. PUBLIC EDUCATION, WE MIGHT BE THERE HELPING A BOY SCOUT TROOP ONE DAY LEARN HOW TO FISH AND TALK TO THEM ABOUT THE PROPER LAWS AND THINGS OF BEING A GOOD FISHERMAN. ALL THE WAY TO MAYBE HELPING SOMEBODY WHO -- MAYBE THE BICYCLE WASN'T RIGHT AND HAD A HARD TIME IN THE TRAIL AND WE GET THEM IN TOUCH WITH THE COMMUNITY PROGRAMS TO GET THEM A BIKE TO GET THEM BACK AND FORTH TO WORK. AND COMMUNITY POLICING. THESE GUYS ARE OUT THERE EVERY SINGLE DAY. SAYING HI, AND GIVING FOOD AND WATER. HELPING PEOPLE BETTER THEIR LIVES. IF THEY'RE CAMPING AND NEED TO BETTER PLACE TO STAY. WITH THAT, TOGETHER I THINK OPEN SPACE AND THE PUBLIC CAN CONTINUE TO WORK TOGETHER WITH THESE OFFICERS TO BETTER OUR OPEN SPACE LAND AND KEEP THEM BEAUTIFUL AND ENJOYABLE AND SAFE FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS TO ENJOY. I THINK THAT'S IT FOR ME. FOOUFB ANY QUESTIONS DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? >> NARRATOR: MR. PRESIDENT, . >>COUN. BASSAN: ONCE THE QUESTIONS IS DONE, I HOPE WE CAN DO A FLIP SIDE OF THAT AND HAVE THE CHIEF GIVE THE REPORT AND UPDATE WITH WHAT THE VISION IS. PLUS, I SUBMITTED QUESTIONS TO THE CHIEF WHEN I SPOKE WITH HIM SO THAT I WAS HOPING HE WOULD ANSWER THOSE AS WELL. >>COUN. BENTON: ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. MARTINEZ. THANK YOU FOR THAT RUNDOWN. IT'S GOOD TO HEAR IT FROM THE HORSE'S MOUTH, SO TO SPEAK. >> IT'S A SMALL HORSE. I APPRECIATE IT. IT'S GOOD TO GIVE BACK A LITTLE BIT. EVEN THOUGH I AM RETIRED. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS FOR ANTHONY. NOT SEEING ANY. WE'LL GO TO COUNCILOR GROUT. I'M SORRY, NOT SEEING EVERYONE'S RAISED HAND. IF I MISSED YOU, JUST SHOUT OUT. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. ANTHONY, I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO OUT WITH THE OPEN SPACE UNIT YESTERDAY. I WENT ON A RIDE LONG FOR FOUR HOURS. WE PATROLLED THE BOSQUE AND I WAS IMPRESSED WITH HOW CLEAN IT WAS. AND THERE WERE A COUPLE OF ENCAMPMENTS THAT WERE ABANDONENED AND THEY KNEW EXACTLY WHERE TO GO. I ASKED HOW THEY KNEW THEY WERE THERE. AND THEY TOLD ME THEY GET 311 CALLS OR SOMEBODY WILL CALL THEM AND THEY'LL HEAD OUT THERE. THEY KNEW THAT AREA BACKWARD AND FORWARD. GOT AROUND EASILY. WHAT COULD YOU TELL ME WHAT KIND OF TRAINING DO THESE GUYS ACTUALLY HAVE? HOW MANY DO THE SWIM TEST? COULD YOU TELL ME ABOUT THE SWIM TEST YOU TAKE? THAT SOUNDS PRETTY INTENSE. >> FOR SURE. I APPRECIATE YOU ACTUALLY GETTING OUT THERE TO ACTUALLY SPEND SOME TIME WITH THEM AND SEE WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT. I KNOW THAT MEANS A LOT TO THEM AND THE CITIZENS OUT THERE TOO SEE WHAT THEY DO. AND THE REASON IT LOOKS SO CLEAN OUT THERE, OBVIOUS IT'S PROACTIVE. THESE GUYS ARE OUT THERE EVERY SINGLE DAY. WE KNOW IF YOU'RE NOT BEING PROACTIVE THING KZ SPIRAL OUT OF PATROL. AS FAR AS THE SWIM TEST, PEOPLE JUST THINK YOU CAN GO OUT THERE AND PATROL THE DITCH BANK OR WALK LONG THE RIVER OR GET ON A BOAT AND TAKE CARE OF A CALL. IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN THAT. THERE'S A LIABILITY BEING CLOSE TO THE WATER. WHETHER IT'S SWIFT WATER OR THE WATER IN GENERAL. THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THESE REQUIREMENTS. I'M NOT A VERY GOOD SWIMMER. IT TOOK A BIT OF TIME TO PASS THAT. JUST BEING ABLE TO GET THE CALL TAKEN CARE OF AND COMING HOME SAFE AT THE END OF THE DAY. IT TAKES A LOT OF TIME AND TRAINING. THAT'S JUST THE SWIMMING ASPECT OF IT. THERE'S SO MANY DIFFERENT CERTIFICATIONS AND TRAINING AND DIFFERENT THINGS THAT IT JUST TAKES TO ENJOY YOUR VISIT OUT THERE LIKE YOU WERE IN THE OPEN SPACE. THOSE THINGS AREN'T JUST THERE. THEY'RE CLEAN FOR A REASON. IT'S LOT OF TRAINING AND LOT OF HOURS AND TIME. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. MR. PRESIDENT, A COUPLE MORE QUESTIONS. WHEN YOU ARE CALLED OUT TO SEARCH AND RESCUE, TYPICALLY ARE YOU THE FIRST ONES ON SCENE? WHO AND WHAT DEPARTMENT SHOW UP? HOW DOES THAT WORK? COULD YOU GIVE ME AN EXAMPLE OF ONE OF YOUR RESCUES? >> FOR SURE. IT'S JUST STATE POLICE ARE IN CHARGE OF MOST OF SEARCH AND RESCUES IN THE STATE. IF IT MEETS THEIR CRITERIA. THEY'RE ALL OFFICERS TRAINED. THEY CAN BE AWAY FROM THEIR VEHICLES FOR DAYS. I THINK THE MOST AMOUNT OF TIME I WAS LOOKING FOR A FIREFIGHTER WHO NEVER CAME OUT. HE LOOKED FOR A WILDLAND FIRE, HE WENT MISSING AND WE STAYED OUT FOR SEVEN DAYS STRAIGHT TO TRY TO BRING HIM HOME. WE'RE AVAILABLE AND READY TO GO AT ANY GIVEN TIME. AND WE WERE, LIKE THE CHIEF SAID, BOOTS ON THE GROUND. LITERALLY BOOTS ON THE GROUND. WE'RE IN UNIFORM AND HAVE ACCESS TO ASKING FOR AIR SUPPORT AND DIFFERENT ENTITIES. AND WE CAN GET OUT THERE AND PROVIDE HELP. WE MAY FIND THEM. WE KNOW THE TRAILS AT THE BACK OF OUR HANDS AND USE GPS COORDINATES. IT'S REALLY GOOD TO KNOW THAT MAYBE YOU'RE NOT A FIREFIGHTER OR VOLUNTEER SEARCH AND RESCUE, BUT WHEN YOU'RE COLD OUT ON THE MOUNTAIN AND YOU'RE CRYING, YOUR LIGHT HAS GONE OUT AND YOU DON'T HAVE A FLASHLIGHT, IT CAN BE AIR -- SCARY. AND THEN THERE'S AN OFFICER TO TURN IT INTO A REALLY GOOD OUTCOME AND GET THE REST OF THE FIRST RESPONDERS THERE. >>COUN. GROUT: FOLLOW UP TO THAT ONE. WHEN YOU GO OUT TO THOSE SEARCH AND RESCUES, HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE YOU TO GET FAMILIAR WITH THE AREAS YOU'RE BEING CALLED OUT TO? DO YOU GUYS GET LOST? HOW DID YOU NAVIGATE THAT AREA? TO GET FAMILIAR WITH THE AREA. >> THAT'S AN AWESOME QUESTION. OF COURSE WE GET LOST, BUT WE DON'T TELL PEOPLE, WE JUST GET REDIRECTED A LITTLE BIT. IT TAKES YEARS. I'M TELLING YOU, YEARS TO LEARN THE TRAIL SYSTEM, THE GATES, ACCESS POINTS, AND HOW TO NAVIGATE ALL THE DIFFERENT AREAS THE CITY OWN. IT COULD BE AN ARROYO, OR AN EMPTY PARKING LOT. I'M TALKING YEARS. EVEN BEING ON THE DEPARTMENT FOR 15 YEARS, I WILL STILL FINDING PLACES I HAD NEVER BEEN BEFORE. I MIGHT HAVE GOT A CALL WHERE I WAS LIKE I NEVER TOOK A CALL BACK THERE AND IT'S SOMETHING NEW. IT TAKES A LONG TIME TO LEARN THIS STUFF. AND THE GUYS THAT ARE THERE NOW IT FEELS GREAT TO KNOW THOSE GUYS WILL STILL BE THERE AND PASS THE KNOWLEDGE TO OTHER OFFICERS. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. I HAVE ONE FINAL QUESTION FOR YOU, MR. MARTINEZ. HOW OFTEN, BEING IN THE OPEN SPACE DIVISION, ARE YOU EVER CALLED OUT TO HELP WITH FOOTHILLS COMMAND OR NORTHEAST COMMAND? DO OTHER DEPARTMENTS CALL YOU TO HELP THEM? >> YEAH. THAT'S ANOTHER GOOD QUESTION. THESE GUYS, THEY'RE IN A MARKED PATROL VEHICLE, THEY HAVE HANDCUFFS, THEY HAVE A BODY CAMERA. THEY CAN ARREST PEOPLE. THEY CAN WRITE CRIMINAL COMPLAINTS AND WRITE PARKING TICKETS. THEY CAN RUN LASER. ALL THE DIFFERENT THINGS THEY CAN DO. IT HAPPENS QUITE A BIT. THERE MIGHT BE A BACK UP OFFICER TO HELP ON A TRAFFIC STOP. YOU MAY SEE THEM ON THE HOLIDAY SEASON. I TELL YOU HOW MANY TIMES I ROAD MY BIKE AROUND THE MALL AND HELP WITH THE SHOPLIFTING. AND BIKE PATROL AROUND BALLOON FIESTA. JUST ON PATROL EVERY DAY. >>COUN. GROUT: FOLLOW UP TO THAT. DO THE OTHER COMMAND, OR DIVISION, HOW OFTEN DO THEY CALL YOU? DO THEY ASK FOR THAT VERY OFTEN? HOW DOES THAT WORK? >> OH, YEAH. WE GET CALLED ALL THE TIME. WHETHER IT'S -- BELIEVE IT OR NOT, YOU MAY THINK IT'S JUST AN OPEN SPACE CALL BUT WE GET A CALL BECAUSE MAYBE THERE'S A CHILD LOST. LET'S JUST SAY IT DOESN'T MEET THE STATE POLICE SEARCH AND RESCUE CRITERIA, MAYBE WE HAVE A HUNCH. LIKE A CHILD MAY HAVE GONE THAT REALLY LIKES WATER. WE DON'T KNOW IF HE WENT DOWN THERE, IF HE GOES HIKING. THEY'LL BE CALLED, WHETHER IT'S THE FOOTHILLS OR NORTHEAST, ANY AREA COMMAND. THEY DON'T STOP UNTIL THE JOB GETS DONE. WE'LL GO OUT THERE AND LOOK AT SOME OF THE AREAS AND HAVE A GOOD SUCCESS RATE ON FINDING PEOPLE THAT IS NOT NECESSARILY A FULL-BLOWN SEARCH AND RESCUE TO HAND OFF TO SOMEBODY ELSE. THESE GUYS ARE OUT THERE ASSISTING QUITE A BIT. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE YOU. I'M VERY CONCERNED THAT WE HAVE QUITE AN INVESTMENT IN OUR OPEN SPACES. WE'VE SPENT MILLIONS OF DOLLARS ACQUIRING THESE LANDS. AND RIGHT NOW THEY'RE PRETTY PRIS TINE, I HATE TO SEE WHAT WILL BECOME OF THEM WITHOUT THIS TEAM ON HAND OFTEN PATROLLING AND TAKING GOOD CARE OF THE LAND WE'VE ACQUIRED. WE'RE VERY, VERY BLESSED TO HAVE THIS. OTHER COMMUNITIES DO NOT HAVE THE OPEN SPACES THAT WE DO. I'M TALKING ACROSS THE COUNTRY. SOMETIMES WE TAKE THAT FOR GRANTED. >>COUN. BENTON: LET'S MOVE TO THE CHIEF. WE'RE REALLY SPENDING A LOT OF TIME ON THIS TOPIC. LET'S MOVE TO THE CHIEF. >> MR. PRESIDENT, THANK YOU FOR GIVING US THIS OPPORTUNITY. WE'LL GIVE A REAL QUICK UPDATE ON WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO. THIS IS WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH. WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE THE BEST USE OF OUR RESOURCES. WE HAVE LIMITED RESOURCES. WE KNOW THAT. REAL QUICK, 24 CAMPS LOCATED IN THE OPEN SPACE. 16 COMPLAINTS FROM OPEN SPACE FROM 311. TWO FIRES. NINE SEARCH AND RESCUES AND LOT OF TRAINING AND SPECIAL EVENTS AND THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT THE LOAD IS FOR THESE FIVE OPEN SPACE OFFICERS. TYPICALLY A FIELD OFFICER IS TAKING 15 CALLS FOR SERVICE PER DAY. TAKING UP TO FIVE POLICE REPORTS. THERE'S A BETTER INVESTMENT FOR RESOURCES THAN WHAT WE HAVE THEM. IT'S NOT SAYING WE'RE NOT GOING TO INVEST INTO THESE RESOURCES. WE'RE GOING TO PASS A RECAP OF WHAT OUR COLLATERAL PROGRAM WILL LOOK LIKE. THE NUMBER ONE THING MENTIONED OF SEARCH AND RESCUE, I WAS THE COMMANDER OVER OPEN SPACE. YOU'RE GOING TO NOTICE ONE THING, IT WAS NOT TIME SENSITIVE. IT WOULD NOT -- THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN NO IMPACT OF US HAVING A COLLATERAL PERSON ON CALL TO RESPOND TO THAT INCIDENT. I HEARD LOT OF FEEL GOOD COMMUNITY POLICING THINGS WHICH ARE GREAT. WHICH WE COULD ACCOMPLISH WITH A COLLATERAL PROGRAM LIKE WE DO WITH OUR SUCCESSFUL AMBASSADOR PROGRAM. I'LL TURN IT OVER TO THE DEPUTY COMMANDER FOR WHAT THE PROGRAM WILL LOOK LIKE AND THE INTENTIONS AND I'LL CLOSE WITH A QUICK STATEMENT OF THE DIRECTION WE'RE GOING TO GO AS A POLICE DEPARTMENT. >> GOOD EVENING. ON FRIDAY WE POSTED POSITIONS FOR COLLATERAL OPEN SPACE. COVER SEARCH AND RESCUE DUTIES AND RESPOND TO CALLS FOR SERVICE IN THE OPEN SPACE AREAS. THE INITIAL LOAD FOR THAT WOULD BE ABOUT 10 TO 12 OFFICERS WITH THE IDEA THAT AS PEOPLE GOT TRAINED WE WOULD CONTINUE TO TRAIN ADDITIONAL UNTIL WE FELT A SUFFICIENT STAFFING HAD BEEN ACHIEVED. THE TRAINING FOR THAT WOULD BE A THREE-PHASE APPROACH. THE FIRST WOULD BE LARGELY WHAT OFFICER MARTINEZ DISCUSSED IS FAMILIARIZATION. TALKING ABOUT WHERE THE WHERE IS. INSTEAD OF NAVIGATING THROUGH AN INTERSECTION, NAVIGATE TO A COORDINATE. IF CALLS COME IN, REQUESTING ASSISTANCE, WE HAVE OFFICERS THAT COULD HEAD OUT THERE IN FOUR-WHEEL DRIVES. TO BE ABLE TREE RESPOND TO THOSE CALLS AND DEAL WITH THEM. MOVING INTO PHASE TWO AND PHASE PLEASE -- PHASE THREE. WE GO TO ASSIST CALLING OR ASSISTING WITH OTHER SORTS OF MORE SPECIALIZED DUTIES RELATED TO WILDLAND FIRE IF AFR NEEDED HELP. ASSISTING WITH MOUNTAIN RESCUE CALLS OR REMOTE RESCUE CALLS. LEVEL THREE IS HIGHLY SPECIALIZED SKILLS DEALING WITH THE WATER RESCUES AND HIGH ANGLE RESCUES. THAT WOULD BE FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD. AT THIS TIME, WE REALLY JUST START WITH GETTING PEOPLE TRAINED QUICKLY IN THE NEXT TWO TO FOUR MONTHS ON BEING ABLE TO FULLY RESPOND TO CALLS FOR SERVICE IN THE OPEN SPACE. WHEN PRIORITY CALLS COME OUT THAT NEED THAT RESPONSE. >> WE DO HAVE A TIME TO GO FORWARD. WE'RE HOPING TO GET 12 ADDITIONAL INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE GOING TO BE DOING THIS COLLATERALLY. MOST OF THE EXAMPLES YOU HEARD FOR YOURSELF DO NOT REQUIRE IMMEDIATE RESPONSE. ON-CAL PERSON IS ABLE TO DO IT. WE HOPE TO HAVE THREE PEOPLE ON CALL. THAT'S A FOUR-WEEK ROTATION. YOU HAVE A PRIMARY, SECONDARY, AND THIRD PERSON THAT WOULD BE CALLED OUT. THIS IS A MEAS TO LEAN ON OTHER PARTNERS. AFR HAS BEEN INVOLVED IN MORE SEARCH AND RESCUE. THE NUMBERS THEY GAVE ME WERE 45. THEY'RE INVOLVED IN THAT PROCESS. WOE WOULD LEAN ON THEM TO ASSIST US DURING THE TIME FRAME. AND ALSO HAVE PUBLIC SERVICE AIDS. WOE WOULD LIKE WE WOULD LIKE TO CALL AMBASSADORS. THEY WORK HAND AND HAND. A LOT OF THE ISSUES IN THE BOSQUE WOULD BE REFERRED TO ACS. IF NOT, SOME OF THE COLLATERAL OFFICERS ARE OFFERED OVERTIME TO GO DO THAT. NUMBER ONE THING I'M GOING TO SAY IS WE HAVEN'T BEEN AFRAID TO TAKE CHANCES AS A POLICE DEPARTMENT AND WE'VE BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL. ONE YEAR AGO THERE'S A LOT OF CRITICISM OVER OUR HOMICIDE CLEARANCE RATE. WE WORKED HARD. WE MADE SOME CHANGES. SOME PEOPLE INTERNALALLY QUESTIONED AND LOOK WHERE WE'RE AT NOW. 96% CLEARANCE RATE. WE CONTINUED EVENTS. TRAFFIC SECTION, WE HAVE 66% MORE CITATIONS ISSUED THIS YEAR. IN THE LAST 45 DAYS WE TOOK ON OUR CALL RESPONSE. THIS WEEK WE'LL ANNOUNCE HOW WE HAVE SHAVED DRASTIC TIME OFF THE AVERAGE. THIS IS THE DECISION THAT THE CHIEF'S OFFICE, THE EXECUTIVE OFFICE SAT DOWN AND DISCUSSED. WE THINK IT'S BEST FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND WE WANT TO GIVE THIS A TRY. AND IF SOMETHING DOESN'T WORK OUT AND WE HAVE TO REVISIT IT, WE WILL REVISIT IT. THIS WILL HELP US CLEAR UP RESOURCE AND IT'S A START. THERE ARE OTHER PARTS OF THE DEPARTMENT WE CAN MOVE GOING FORWARD WITH COLLATERAL PROGRAMS. WE HAVE SUCCESSFUL COLLATERAL PROGRAMS WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT. WE STAND FOR QUESTIONS. >>COUN. BASSAN: I DON'T KNOW WHERE MR. PRESIDENT IS. MR. PRESIDENT, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WOULD RATHER GO WITH THE OTHER COUNCILORS FIRST? >>COUN. BENTON: I CAN'T SEE EVERYONE'S HANDS. PLEASE ALERT ME IF YOU HAVE YOUR HAND UP. I CAN'T SEE -- I THINK I SEE EVERYONE EXCEPT COUNCILOR SANCHEZ AND COUNCILOR GROUT. I KNOW THAT COUNCILOR SANCHEZ HAD HIS HAND UP. HE'S NEXT. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I JUST BELIEVE THAT COUNCILOR GROUT HAD A GOOD LINE OF QUESTIONING GOING BEFORE SHE WAS INTERRUPTED. AND I'VE BEEN INTERRUPTED BEFORE TOO. I KNOW THAT DOESN'T FEEL GOOD. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'M LOOKING AT IS THIS VERY IMPORTANT -- I'D LIKE TO ASK THE CHIEF HOW THE COLLATERAL OFFICERS ARE GOING TO SAVE A LAWSUIT IF THERE'S PEOPLE USING THE OPEN SPACE AND WE'RE NOT THERE. IT TAKES YEARS. WE JUST HEARD FROM OFFICER MARTINEZ, IT TAKES YEARS TO TRAIN AND DEVELOP THE INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE NEEDED FOR THE OPENSPACE OFFICERS. WE GO BACK TO OPEN SPACE BEING A DIRECT ASSET TO THE CITIZENS OF ALBUQUERQUE. THERE'S THOUSANDS OF ACRES ACCESSED EACH AND EVERY DAY BY CITIZENS OF ALBUQUERQUE. FOR INDIVIDUALS NOT HAVING THIS INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE, WE GO RIGHT BACK TO WHAT I'VE ALWAYS BEEN COMPLAINING ABOUT. WE ARE LOSING THE INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE WITHIN THE CITY GOVERNMENT WE HAVE IN ALBUQUERQUE. BEING REPLACED BY DEPUTY COMMANDERS, AND DEPUTY DIRECTORS ALL OVER THE PLACE. I SAY IT OVER AND OVER AGAIN HOW THIS ADMINISTRATION CONTINUES TO FAIL AT PUTTING PEOPLE WHERE BOOTS ON THE GROUND ARE NEEDED. THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO HEAR. I NEED TO KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON IN REFERENCE TO WHAT CAN HAPPEN WITH ALL OF THE EQUIPMENT, ALL OF THE INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE THAT'S GOING TO BE WALKING RIGHT OUT THE DOOR IN REFERENCE TO THIS. THIS IS NOT JUST A POLICE ISSUE. THIS IS AN ISSUE THAT AFFECTS THE WHOLE ENTIRE CITY AND AFFECTS THE PROPERTY EACH AND EVERY INDIVIDUAL AT THE CITY PARTICIPATES IN. IT'S NOT JUST A SIMPLE THING TO DO. THIS CITY COUNCIL NEEDS TO WEIGH IN ON THIS AND WE NEED WEIGH IN ON IT IN A VERY SPECIFIC MANNER. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT, IN MY OPINION, IS NEEDING TO TO BE HELD ON. THE EQUIPMENT THAT'S THERE IS JUST THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS. THE CERTIFICATIONS THAT THESE OFFICERS HAVE PUT THEMSELVES IN. THIS GOES BACK TO ALL THESE OTHER PEOPLE WHO HAVE THE INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE WHO HAVE BEEN REPLACED BY SOMEONE ELSE AND AT THAT POINT DID WHAT THE DO THEY DO? THEY SIT ON THEIR HANDS AND DON'T DO THE JOB THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE. YOU TAKE THE WIND OUT OF THE SAILS. THE PROBLEM IS PUTTING BOOTS ON THE GROUND. WE NEED OFFICERS IN THIS DEPARTMENT. WE NEED MORE OFFICERS THAN WE HAVE. AND THAT IS THE BIGGEST ISSUE WE NEED TO FACE. I NEED TO KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING ABOUT THAT. >> COUNCILOR BENTON, COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, THIS IS DOING EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE ASKING. PUTTING MORE BOOTS ON THE GROUND. THESE INDIVIDUALS ARE GOING TO FIELD SERVICES BUREAU. COUNCIL REQUESTED WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO ABOUT THE CALLS HOLDING. THIS IS A FIRST STEP. GETTING MORE RESOURCES OUT THERE. I HEARD TWO QUESTIONS AMONG EVERYTHING THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. THE OTHER IS LIKE THE EXTERNAL CHANGES AND THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN BROUGHT IN AS DEPUTY COMMANDERS. HOMICIDE IS SUCCESSFUL BECAUSE WE BROUGHT IN OUTSIDE VIEWS AND EXPANDED ABILITY TO HANDLE INVESTIGATIONS. AND WE STOPPED DOING THINGS HOW WE DID THEM SINCE 1995. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: HOMICIDES ARE AT AN ALL TIME HIGH. ALL TIME HIGH, CHIEF. >>COUN. BENTON: COMPLAINING ABOUT INTERRUPTING, NOW YOU'RE INTERRUPTING. I'M GOING TO LET THE CHIEF CONTINUE AND WE'LL GET BACK TO YOU. WE HAVE A QUEUE OF PEOPLE WANTING TO ASK QUESTIONS. YOU'LL BE CONTINUED WITH YOUR QUESTIONING IF THE CHIEF CAN FINISH WHAT HE WAS SAYING. >> YOU KNOW HOMICIDES ARE AT AN ALL TIME HIGH. SO IS THE CLEARANCE RATE. SOME OF THE CHANGES WE MADE AT HOMICIDE BY BRINGING IN OUTSIDE VIEWS IS IMPERATIVE. YOU LOOK AT THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT, THAT'S ANOTHER AREA WE BROUGHT OUTSIDE PEOPLE TO LOOK AND CARVE A PATH FORWARD. THIS DEPARTMENT STRUGGLED FOR YEARS ALL THE WAY BACK TO 1989. 1995 WHEN I WAS HERE. FOR FOR THE FIRST TIME WE'RE MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. A LOT OF THAT HAS TO DO WITH WE'RE THINKING OUTSIDE THE BOX AND DOING THINGS NOT TYPICALLY HOW WE ALWAYS DID THEM. AND SOMETIMES THEY DON'T WORK PERFECT. SOMETIMES YOU GO BACK TO THE DRAWING TABLE AND CHANGE IT. WE'LL CONTINUE TO BRING IN NEW IDEAS, NEW WAYS TO DO THINGS. AND I HOPE WE CONTINUE TO MOVE THIS DEPARTMENT FORWARD IN SO MANY DIFFERENT ASPECTS THAT WE'VE SEEN IN THE PAST YEAR. I'LL TALK ABOUT HOMICIDE CLEARANCE RATES. DOJ, NUMBER OF CITATIONS, TRAFFIC FATALITIES. LET'S NOT CLING TO THE ONE THING WE'RE STRUGGLING WITH. WE HAVE A HOMICIDE PROBLEM. BUT A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY RECOGNIZE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS NOT THE ONLY ENTITY THAT HAS TO WORK AND BE FUNCTIONING PROPERLY FOR HOMICIDE RATES TO GO DOWN. THAT IS A CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM ISSUE AND IT IS A PROBLEM THAT'S OCCURRING ACROSS THIS NATION. IT IS A PROBLEM THAT HAS TO DO WITH A LOT OF DIFFERENT FACTORS. IT'S NOT JUST THE ALBUQUERQUE POLICE DEPARTMENT OR THEIR ACTIONS THAT ARE CAUSING THE RISE IN HOMICIDE NUMBERS ACROSS THE COUNTRY. >>COUN. BENTON: COUNCILOR SANCHEZ CONTINUE. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THIS GOES BACK TO WHAT WE'VE BEEN SAYING, CHIEF. I'D LIKE TO ASK THE CHIEF HOW MANY OFFICERS RIGHT NOW ARE WORKING FIELD SERVICES, ANSWERING CALLS FOR SERVICE, IN MY DISTRICT RIGHT NOW AND SEND ME A COPY OF THE LINE UP SO I CAN SEE EXACTLY HOW MANY OFFICERS ARE WORKING THAT DISTRICT. TODAY, RIGHT NOW. I'D LIKE TO KNOW THAT. WHICH OFFICERS ARE ANSWERING THE CALLS FOR SERVICE. MY QUESTION STILL WASN'T ANSWERED. WHAT ARE WE DOING TO RAISE THE AMOUNT OF OFFICERS FOR BOOTS ON THE GROUND? THAT'S WHERE WE ARE LACKING. THERE'S STILL ISSUES WITH PETTY CRIMES, I SEE EVERY SINGLE DAY THE DRUG USE BEING OUT THERE OUT OF CONTROL. WE DON'T HAVE A NARCOTICS UNIT, WE DON'T HAVE A SWAT TEAM, WE DON'T HAVE A GANG UNIT. ALL OF THE THINGS ARE A DIRECT EFFECT OF THE FACT WE HAVE NO OFFICERS. THE FAILURE IS NOT HAVING ENOUGH OFFICERS ON THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. HOW ARE WE ADDRESSING THAT ISSUE? >> COUNCILOR BENTON, COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, WE TALKED ABOUT IT. THIS IS A STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. GETTING MORE BOOTS ON THE GROUND. WE GRADUATED TODAY A CLASS OF APPROXIMATELY 30 INDIVIDUALS. WE HAVE ANOTHER ACADEMY CLASS COMING. WE'VE GONE OVER THIS SEVERAL TIMES DURING CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS THAT YES WE ARE HAVING SUCCESS IN RECRUITING, WE'VE SLOWED DOWN RETIREMENT. WE'VE ONLY HAD TWO RETIREMENTS OVER THE PAST FEW MONTHS. ONCE WE INTRODUCED THE RETENTION PROGRAM THAT WE HAVE. THERE IS A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE HAVE BEEN DOING AND IF AT ANY TIME YOU'D LIKE TO SIT DOWN AND HAVE A CUP OF COFFEE AND TALK ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING TO KEEP UP RETENTION AND RECRUIT, WE'RE MORE THAN HAPPY AND YOU CAN REPORT TO YOUR CONSTITUENTS. FOR THE SAKE OF TIME AND MAKE SURE EVERYBODY IS ABLE TO ANSWER THEIR QUESTIONS, I THINK WE'VE DONE QUITE A BIT AND WE'VE EXPLAINED IT QUITE IN-DEPTH OVER THE PAST SEVERAL CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: MY CONSTITUENTS ARE TELLING ME THEIR SAFETY IS STILL THE MOST CONCERN. THEY'RE DEALING WITH DRUGS ON THE STREETS AND THE PROPERTY CRIMES IN THE BUSINESSES. AND DEALING WITH THE ISSUES WE'VE TALKED ABOUT OVER AND OVER AGAIN AND WE HAVE NOT RAISED THE AMOUNT OF OFFICERS IN THE DEPARTMENT. THAT'S BY YOUR OWN WORDS. WHEN ARE WE GOING TO SEE THE STRENGTH OF 12 O -- 1200 OFFICERS? AND HOW MANY OFFICERS ARE IN THE FIELD. MINUS SPECIALIZED UNITS. HOW MANY ARE ANSWERING THE CITIZEN'S CALLS FOR SERVICE RIGHT NOW? >> 1742 WAS THE TIME I WROTE DOWN WHEN YOU ASKED THAT QUESTION. I'LL HAVE AN EMAIL SHOWING YOU HOW MANY WORK THERE. WE'VE HAD THIS CONVERSATION NUMEROUS TIMES. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT RECRUITING EFFORTS AND PROCESSES TRYING TO HIRE MORE. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT CARVING OUT MORE RESOURCES TO DO SWORN RESOURCE JOBS. IN THIS CASE HAVE CIVILIAN INCREASES HELP US DO JOBS THAT DON'T REQUIRE A BADGE AND A GUN. I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH MORE I CAN ANSWER THAT QUESTION. LIKE I SAID, WE COULD SIT AND TALK ABOUT THIS AT A LATER TIME. WE'VE ANSWERED THAT QUESTION. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: I'M STILL WAITING FOR THE RESPONSE HOW MANY OFFICERS ARE WORKING FIELD SERVICES RIGHT NOW? YOU'RE THE CHIEF. YOU SHOULD KNOW THAT. ANSWERING CALL FOR SERVICE. >> COUNCILOR BENTON, COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, I DO NOT HAVE THE AMOUNT OF OFFICERS WHO ARE WORKING RIGHT NOW. I SIMPLY DON'T. I LEFT PREVIOUS MEETINGS AND I'VE COME HERE DIRECTLY FROM ANOTHER MEETING. YOU KNOW WHAT, I WILL EMAIL YOU HOW MANY OFFICERS ARE WORKING NOW BY THE END OF THE NIGHT. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THAT WOULD BE PERFECT. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BENTON: COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN IS NEXT AND I THINK COUNCILOR GROUT AND WHO ELSE? HELP ME OUT. >> THAT'S ALL I SEE, MR. PRESIDENT. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. AS A FREQUENT OPEN SPACE USER AND THERE ARE MANY PEOPLE IN MY DISTRICT THAT ARE REALLY APPRECIATING THE OPEN SPACE IN ALBUQUERQUE AND THEY'RE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THIS ISSUE, I JUST WANTED TO ASK A FEW QUESTIONS TO CLARIFY SO WE UNDERSTAND THE CHANGE BEING PROPOSED. CHIEF MEDINA, A LOT OF THE THINGS I HEARD ABOUT EARLIER, THE EDUCATION, THE COMMUNITY EVENTS, THE TEACHING, THE TRAINING, ARE THOSE THINGS THAT YOU FEEL COULD BE DONE BY SOMEONE THAT IS NOT AN ACTUAL POLICE OFFICER? >> COUNCILOR BENTON, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN YES. ABSOLUTELY. THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH. ENSURING THAT DURING THE TIME, EVERY SWORN OFFICER IS HAVING THE BIGGEST IMPACT ON CRIME WE CAN IN THE CITY. TEACHING KIDS -- I RESPECT WE WANT TO TEACH KIDS AND BE ROLE MODELS. THEY CAN HAVE OPPORTUNITIES TO DO THAT AS A COLLATERAL OFF-DUTY. WE'RE NOT SAYING WE DON'T WANT THEM CONTINUING TO DO THAT. WE'RE SAYING THAT'S AN EXTRA DUTY. WE CAN HIRE CIVILIANS AND GET OTHER INDIVIDUALS TO HELP WITH THOSE ACTIVITIES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. SO THE COLLATERAL OFFICERS YOU'RE ADVERTISING FOR, ARE THOSE ACTUAL POLICE OFFICERS? >> COUNCILOR BENTON, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, THOSE ARE GOING TO BE SWORN OFFICERS WHO WILL BE ON AN ON-CALL STATUS TO RESPOND TO THESE EMERGENCY SITUATIONS WITHIN THE BOSQUE. AND WE WILL ALSO HAVE PERMANENTLY ASSIGNED PSA'S ALWAYS OUT THERE ASSISTING WITH A LOT OF THE DUTIES THAT DON'T REQUIRE SWORN LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER. SDMRF IT SOUNDS . >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: IT SOUNDS LIKE THE NEW FOLKS WOULD BE ABLE TO FILL THE ROLE OF LIKE A PARK RANGER ROLE. AND WE WOULD STILL HAVE POLICE OFFICERS AVAILABLE TO RESPOND TO THE EMERGENCIES IN OPEN SPACE. AM I UNDERSTANDING THAT CORRECTLY? >> COUNCILOR BENTON, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, THAT'S CORRECT. FOR THOSE THAT DON'T KNOW. MY BACKGROUND IS -- PRIOR TO COMING TO THE ALBUQUERQUE POLICE DEPARTMENT I WORKED FOR THE CARSON NATIONAL FOREST. I WAS A FOREST RANGER. I DID BIOLOGY WORK. CARSON NATIONAL FOREST, OF ALL THE RANGER DISTRICT, THEY ONLY HAD TWO PERMANENT SWORN INDIVIDUALS ASSIGNED. THEY DEALT WITH THE VIOLATIONS OF LAW AND THE REST OF THE UNIFORMED SERVICES FOR FOREST SERVICE. THEY'RE THE PRESENCE IN THE NATIONAL FOREST. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, CHIEF. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. >>COUN. BENTON: COUNCILOR BASSAN AND COUNCILOR GROUT DID YOU WANT TO FOLLOW UP? >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT WAS FIRST AND I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS TO FINISH OUT. >>COUN. BENTON: ALL RIGHT. COUNCILOR GROUT. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I AMMING HAVE A COUPLE . >>COUN. GROUT: I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS. CHIEF CONGRATULATIONS ON THE 30 NEW OFFICERS SWORN IN TODAY. IT WAS A PRIVILEGE TO SEE THAT HAPPEN. I WAS THINKING ABOUT IF ONE OF THOSE WERE MY CHILDREN GOING TO PROTECT OUR CITY AND IT WAS SPECIAL. THANK YOU. I WANT TO GET BACK TO HOW MANY MILES OF OPEN SPACE WE HAVE? THAT THEY PATROL. >> 30,000 ACRES OF OPEN SPACE IN THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE. AND FOR COMPARISON, THE PUEBLO OF LAGUNA IS 550,000 ACRES. AND WE ONLY HAD EIGHT INDIVIDUALS WHO WERE PATROLLING IT AT THE MOST AT A GIVEN TIME. YOU CAN SEE THE DISPARITY. I BROUGHT THE EXAMPLE, THE CARSON NATIONAL FOREST. THE WIDESPREAD AMOUNT OF SPACE ASK THE AMOUNT OF RESOURCES THEY'RE GIVEN, WE HAVE A VERY HIGH RATIO OF THE AMOUNT OF PROPERTY THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE OWNS AND THE SWORN RESOURCES WE HAVE DEDICATED TO IT. >>COUN. GROUT: TWO MORE QUESTIONS. WHO IS GOING TO BE PATROLLING ALL OF THESE SPECIAL LANDS WE HAVE? >> COUNCILOR BENTON, COUNCILOR GROUT, I THINK THAT'S WHERE -- WHY WE'RE GIVING THESE AMBASSADORS, WE HAVE TO GET THEM WHO ARE GOING TO BE PSA, WE HAVE TO GET THEM OUT INTO THE OPEN SPACE. THEY NEED TO BE THE EYES AND EARS. THEY NEED TO BE THE PEOPLE THAT ARE WATCHING. LET'S BE REALISTIC. WE DON'T HAVE HIGH CRIME WITHIN OUR OPEN SPACE. WE DON'T WANT IT TO GET HIGH CRIME. WE WANT THEM REPORTING BACK IF THERE IS CRIME SEEN. THAT'S WHY WE MAKE A PLAN AND WE ADDRESS IT. REALISTICALLY, UNLESSES THE THE CRIME OCCURS RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE OPEN SPACE OFFICER IT'S GOING TO BE US REACTING TRYING TO INVESTIGATE A CRIME THAT'S OCCURRED. I THINK THERE'S A BETTER WAY. AND WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS WE'RE GOING TO TRY THIS OUT. IF IT DOESN'T WORK, THEN WE'RE NOT ABOVE STEPPING BACK AND SAYING LET'S REEVALUATE AND SEE HOW TO MAKE IT WORK. >>COUN. GROUT: TWO MORE QUESTIONS. HOW LONG IS WE'RE GOING TO TRY? >> WE'LL EVALUATE IT AT SIX MONTHS. WE'LL SEE WHAT IT'S LOOKING LIKE. AND HOW THINGS ARE GOING. WE CAN MAKE A DECISION AT THAT POINT. IF THERE'S MODIFICATIONS WE HAVE TO MAKE AND CONTINUE TO GO. >>COUN. GROUT: MY LAST QUESTION. YOU MENTIONED THESE FIVE OFFICERS ARE GOING TO BE GOING INTO THE FIELD BECAUSE WE'RE ALWAYS ASKING WHERE ARE THE PEOPLE COMING WITH BOOTS ON THE GROUND. HOW MANY OF THESE FIVE OFFICERS WILL BE PATROLLING OUR STREETS? >> COUNCILOR BENTON, COUNCILOR GROUT, ALL OF THEM HAVE TO GO INTO THE BID. THAT'S PER COLLECTIVE BARGAINING. I HEARD SOME OFFICERS SAY THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GO INTO THE FIELD. THEY'RE GOING TO TRY TO GET PROMOTED. OR THEY'LL GO TO SPECIALIZED POSITION. THEY MAY BE ABLE TO TEST INTO THAT AT A LATER TIME. NONE OF THEM ARE GOING DIRECTLY FROM OPEN SPACE TO SOMEWHERE THEY'RE NOT TESTED FOR. PE -- NOBODY IS GOING TO GO TO ANOTHER POSITION OR GET PROMOTED WITHOUT PASSING THE PROMOTIONAL PROCESS. AS IT STANDS, THEY'RE ALL GOING GO INTO THE FIELD. THAT'S NOT SAYING WE'RE NOT GOING TO DECIDE THERE'S A PLACE WHERE THEY CAN ACCOMPLISH MORE THINGS. COUNCILOR GROUT, YOU'RE WELL AWARE THAT WE HAVE TWO INDIVIDUALS TO THE FOOTHILLS PRT, THEY HAVE BEEN ABLE TO ARREST OVER 55 FELONS IN THE PAST 45 DAYS. THEY'VE HAD A HUGE IMPACT IN THE AREA OF TRAMWAY AND CENTRAL. THERE'S NO SAYING THAT WHEN THE TIME COMES WE WON'T MAKE THE DECISION TO GO TO THAT PRT TEAM. THIS IS ABOUT MAKING BALANCE. MAKING SURE WE HAVE RESOURCES TO BE PROACTIVE AND TAKING PEOPLE TO JAIL AND KEEPING UP WITH THE CALL VOLUME THE BEST WAY WE CAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU FOR ENTERTAINING THIS CONVERSATION I KNOW IT'S LONG AND WE HAVE A LENGTHY AGENDA. I'VE WHITTLED DOWN MY QUESTIONS FROM 20 TO 6. MOST OF THEM HAVE BEEN ANSWERED. CHIEF, I REALLY APPRECIATE THE ANSWERS TO THESE QUESTIONS. I KNOW GIVEP MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE OF LATE, YOU KNOW, I RECOGNIZE WE DON'T GET TO TELL YOU HOW AND WHAT AND WHICH WAY YOU RUN YOUR DEPARTMENT. I APPRECIATE YOUR HELPING ANSWER THE QUESTIONS THAT THE PUBLIC HAS BEEN ASKING THAT I NOW AM ASKING ON OTHER LEVELS. ONE IS, ALTHOUGH COUNCILOR GROUT KIND OF ASKED A CERTAIN VERSION OF THE QUESTION, I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT THE OPEN SPACE UNIT WOULD GO ON ACTUAL RESCUES, PER SE, WHEN SOMEONE NEEDED HELP. NOW THAT I KNOW THAT IS SOMETHING THEY DO FREQUENTLY, WHO IS GOING TO GO AND HELP SOMEONE SHOULD THEY GET STUCK SOMEWHERE OR NEED ASSISTANCE WITH SOME KIND OF GETTING LOST OR WHATEVER MIGHT HAPPEN? WHO IS GOING TO DO THE RESCUE WHEN PEOPLE CALL FOR HELP? >> COUNCILOR BENTON, COUNCILOR BASSAN, THE COLLATERAL INDIVIDUALS WORKING. LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT. THERE'S ALWAYS THREE INDIVIDUALS ON CALL. THEY'RE CALLED OUT. IT'S NOT AN APD HP ONLY RESPONSE. AFR CAN TALK ABOUT THE FACT THAT THEY RESPOND TO THESE CALLS. WE'RE GOING TO LEAN ON AFR. WE ALREADY HAVE SANDIA MOUNTAIN RESCUE RESPONDING TO LOT OF THESE CALLS. THERE'S DIFFERENT ENTITIES. WE'RE GOING TO RELY HEAVILY ON SOME OF THE PARTNERS UNTIL WE GET OUR COLLATERALS UP AND RUNNING. WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO TRY TO DEVELOP A GROUP. I'D LOVE TO SEE A CORE GROUP OF INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE ALREADY EVEN EMPLOYEES WITH OPEN SPACE GET TRAINED ON SEARCH AND RESCUE. I WOULD LOVE FOR THE PSAs TO GET TRAINED ON SEARCH AND RESCUE. THIS IS A MOVE ALONG WITH GETTING MORE BOOTS ON THE GROUND IS ALSO GOING TO HOPEFULLY EXPAND THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE AVAILABLE FOR SEARCH AND RESCUE IN THE LONG RUN BY NOT JUST FOCUSING ON SWORN OFFICERS BUT BRINGING IN AS MANY PARTNERS AND TRAINING AS MANY CIVILIANS AS POSSIBLE. UNLESS ANYBODY HAVE QUESTIONS, AFR IS HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, CHIEF, I'M HAPPY TO HEAR THAT AFR IS THERE BECAUSE I WANT TO MAKE SURE IF SOMEONE CALLS FOR HELP WE RESPOND. WHETHER IT'S APD, AFR, SEARCH AND RESCUE. THAT'S A CONCERN THAT WAS MINE BUT ALSO MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC. IN THE LIST OF STATISTICS THAT YOU GAVE, ARE ALL OPEN SPACE CALLS INCLUDED ON THAT LIST? DO THOSE ALWAYS INCLUDE CALLS FOR ASSISTANCE? >> COUNCILOR BASSAN, UNLESSLY SOME OF THE STATS WE HAD WE ALSO LEARNED THAT 311 COMPLAINTS TO OPEN SPACE ARE NOT INCLUDED IN THAT. DURING THE PAST 90 DAYS, 311 REPORTED 16 WELFARE CHECKS THEY WANTED OPEN SPACE TO CONDUCT. A LOT OF THESE DON'T REQUIRE A SWORN LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER. SOME OF THEM DO REQUIRE JUST CHECKING TO SEE IF THERE'S AN ENCAMPMENT. AS WE KNOW THE PROCESS. THE ENCAMPMENTS ARE DEALT WITHIN THE PROCESS OF US GETTING OTHER RESOURCES OUT TO EVENTUALLY TAKE IT DOWN. AND THIS IS SOMETHING WE DO IN PARTNERSHIP. WE ALREADY DO IT THROUGHOUT THE CITY. WE PLAN WITH FAMILY AND COMMUNITY AND PLAN WITH SOLID WASTE. WE PLAN WITH EVERYBODY HOW WE DO THIS OUTSIDE OF THE BOSQUE. THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO PLAN WITH PARTNERS THAT WITH THE PROCESS WE ALREADY HAVE DEVELOPED OUTSIDE OF OPEN SPACE TO CARRY THAT OVER INTO OPEN SPACE AND UTILIZE LESS SWORN RESOURCES AND GET THE SAME RESULTS WITH BEING CLEANED UP WHEN NECESSARY. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU, CHIEF. MR. PRESIDENT, CHIEF, THERE'S $1.4 MILLION ALLOCATED AND DESIGNATED FOR THE OPEN SPACE DIVISION. WHERE IS APD PLANNING ON REALLOCATING THAT FUNDING? >> THIS BUDGET IS FOR THE WHOLE SECTION WHICH INCLUDES OPEN SPACE, HORSE MOUNTED UNIT, HOPELAND SECURITY, IT DOES NOT INCLUDE AIR SUPPORT AND IT IS ENTIRELY JUST UNDER $1.2 MILLION ON SALARIES. LIKE I STATED, WHEN PEOPLE GET CALLED OUT, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO FUND THE OVERTIME. WHEN WE HAVE SPECIAL OPERATIONS WHERE WE NEED THEM TO GO OUT, WE MAY HAVE TO PAY OVERTIME. WITHOUT A DOUBT THERE'S A POSSIBILITY THAT THIS COULD BE USED FOR OVERTIME. WE HAVE SIX MONTHS OR FIVE MONTHS THROUGH THE NEXT BUDGETING CYCLE SEE WHAT THEM PACT OF OVERTIME IS AND WE CAN MAKE THE REQUEST OF WHETHER WE LEAVE THIS FUNDING AS OPERATIONAL EXPENSE WITH SALARIES FOR OPEN SPACE OR IF WE MOVE TO OVERTIME FUNDING SPACE. I THINK THIS IS A GOOD OPPORTUNITY AND REMEMBER OPEN SPACE ONLY UTILIZES 10 TO $20,000 OF OVERTIME PER YEAR. WE'RE GOING TO SEE AN INCREASE OF THAT. EQUIPMENT, SO WE PROBABLY SEE AN INCREASE IN OVERTIME AND WE'RE GOING TO WANT TO KEEP THE $20,000 FOR EQUIPMENT AND MAINTENANCE AND EVERYTHING WE DO WITH IT. >>COUN. BASSAN: THAT LEADS ME TO MY LAST QUESTION. THAT WAS A GOOD SEGUE. ALL THE CITY KEEP ALL THE EQUIPMENT THAT BELONGS TO THE UNIT? I KNOW THERE'S THE WATERCRAFT AND DIFFERENT MATERIALS AND EQUIPMENT THAT BELONG TO THIS DIVISION THAT I DON'T HAVE THE EXPERIENCE OF KNOWING ALL ABOUT. AT THE SAME TIME ARE ARE WE KEEPING THE EQUIPMENT? WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TO IT? THE MAINTENANCE, HOW LONG WILL IT BE USED? >> COUNCILOR BENTON, COUNCILOR BASSAN, YES, WE WILL BE KEEPING THE EQUIPMENT. THERE'S NOTHING TO SAY THAT NEXT 4th OF JULY IF WE HAVE A VERY DRY JULY SEASON THAT WE DON'T TEMPORARILY ASSIGN FOR 45 DAYS WHICH IS ALLOWABLE UNDER THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT THREE TO PATROL THE BOSQUE FOR FEAR OF FIRES. THERE'S NOTHING TO SAY DURING THE FLOOD SEASON WE DON'T CALL AN AUDIBLE AND WE DON'T SIGN THREE INDIVIDUALS TO THE HOVER CRAFT TO BE ON THE WATER WAYS. WE'RE GOING TO LIMIT CERTAIN THINGS. WE'RE GOING TO LIMIT THE NUMBER OF DIVE MEMBERS. YOU HEARD A LITTLE BIT ABOUT IT. IT'S USED FOR RECOVERY OF FIREARMS OR A BODY. WE'RE GOING TO LIMIT THE NUMBER OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS AND WE'LL MAKE SURE WE HAVE ADEQUATE COVERAGE FOR CROSS TRAINING FOR THE BOATS. THERE'S SOME PLACES WHERE WE'RE GOING TO LIMIT THEM THE AMOUNT OF TIME AND EFFORT. JUST REMEMBER EVERY CERTIFIED OFFICER WHEN IT COMES TO REOCCURRING MANDATORY TRAINING THAT'S TIME THEY SPEND AWAY FROM THE FIELD TO GET THAT DONE. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU, CHIEF. THANK YOU FOR ANSWERING THESE QUESTIONS. I KNOW THAT THERE'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE MORE HEADED YOUR WAY AT SOME POINT. I REALLY THINK IT'S OUR JOB TO ASK THE QUESTIONS. ESPECIALLY FOR THE PUBLIC AND EVERYBODY INVOLVED. I THINK THE DIALOGUE IS IMPORTANT. MR. PRESIDENT, THANK YOU FOR THE ENTERTAINMENT OF THE CONVERSATION. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR. YEAH, I DO TAKE THIS SERIOUSLY. WE HAVE A HUGE AGENDA TONIGHT. 93 PEOPLE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. WE CAN'T SPEND ALL NIGHT ON ONE TOPIC. THAT'S ALL THERE IS TO IT. ARE WE READY FOR THE COMPLETE STREETS PRESENTATION? >> MR. PRESIDENT, I UNDERSTAND THAT THE FOLKS FROM DMD WILL SHARE THEIR SCREEN FROM THE MAYOR'S CONFERENCE ROOM. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE. >> I APOLOGIZE FOR THE TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES. MY NAME IS JENNIFER I'M THE DEPUTY DIRECTOR FOR MUNICIPAL DEVELOPMENT. I HAVE WITH ME VALERIE WHO IS THE PUBLIC WORKS STRATEGIC PROGRAM MANAGER. WE WANT TO PRESENT TO YOU COMPLETE STREETS. BASICALLY WE'RE GOING TO START WITH A DEFINITION OF WHAT ARE COMPLETE STREETS. ESSENTIALLY, THESE ARE STREETS WE LOOK AT ALL MODES OF TRANSPORTATION. THE PEDESTRIAN, BICYCLE, MOTOREST. WE LOOK AT THE PLANNING AND DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION OF PROJECTS SINCE WE'RE DOING THEM THROUGHOUT THE CITY. WE LOOKED AT ALL AGES AND THE BIGGEST FOCUS THAT WE HAVE IS ON SAFETY. WE LOOKED AT DESIGN FEATURES AND YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR ME TALK ABOUT LATER THE TOOLBOX AND I THINK WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO USE THE TERM ONE SIZE DOES NOT FIT ALL WHEN IT COMES TO COMPLETE STREETS QUITE A BIT. HERE ARE SOME OF THE BASIC DESIGN FEATURES THAT WE DO LOOK AT. YOU MIGHT USE ROUND ABOUTS, TRAFFIC CALMING. WIDER SIDEWALKS. AND WE'RE GOING TO GO INTO MORE DETAIL AS WE GET INTO THIS PRESENTATION. >> IN 2015, AN UPDATED VERSION BASED ON LESSONS AND IMPLEMENTATION OF COMPLETE STREET. AND SOME OF THE MAJOR CHANGES REFLECTED IN THE UPDATED ORDINANCE ARE STRENGTHED LANGUAGE ABOUT PROJECTS APPLICABILITIES. IT ALSO INCLUDED VISION ZERO. THE CITY HAD ZERO APPROACH IN 2019. AND INCLUDED EQUITY AND OPPORTUNITIES FOR PRIORITIZING PROJECTS BASED ON EQUITY MEASURES. THE COMPLETE STREETS ORDINANCE CALLED FOR CONSIDERATION OF HIRING AN ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION COORDINATOR. I SERVE AS THE VISION ZERO COORDINATOR. THERE'S OVERLAP OF COMPLETE STREETS AND VISION ZERO AND REACHING TRAFFIC FATALITIES. AND WE HAVE VACANT BICYCLE PLANNER POSITIONS. WE EXPECT TO INCLUDE PEDESTRIAN ACTIVITIES THAT HAVE THE HEAD PLANNER DIVISION. OUR TEAMS PARTICIPATE IN A VARIETY OF TRAINING FROM SMARTH GROWTH TO FEDERAL HIGHWAY ADMINISTRATION. IN 2020 THE CITY BECAME THE MEMBER OF THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF CITY TRANSPORTATION. LEADING THE WAY IN TRANSPORTATION INNOVATION AND POLICY AND PLANNING PROGRAM. IN THE NEAT STREET ORDINANCE WE HAVE HIGHLIGHTED FOR STAFF TO FOLLOW WHEN INCORPORATING COMPLETE STREETS. OUR STAFF HAVE ACCESS TO EXPERTS THAT ARE WORLD RENOWNED EXPERTS. PEER CITY STAFF AND DIFFERENT EXCHANGES. AND PARTICIPATION IN THE ANNUAL CONFERENCE. I SHOULD NOTE I WAS LUCKY ENOUGH TO PARTICIPATE IN THE CONFERENCE AND IT WAS A REALLY GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO MEET PEER CITIES AND LEARN FROM THEM AND BRING SOME OF THE BEST PRACTICES BACK TO ALBUQUERQUE TO INCORPORATE INTO OUR PLANNING PROJECTS. IMPLEMENTATION, THERE'S SEVERAL DIFFERENT AREAS ARE WE DO IMPLEMENT THE COMPLETE STREETS. NEW CONSTRUCTION. THIS CAN BE DONE VIA OUR PLANNING DEPARTMENT WITH SUBDIVIDERS AND DEVELOPERS. WE HAVE THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT ENSURING COMPLETE STREETS REQUIREMENTS ARE MET. AND WHEN WE DO OUR STREET REHAB, OUR MAINTENANCE, WE CAN DO FULL RECONSTRUCTIONS AND SOMETIMES THE FULL RECONSTRUCTION WOULD BE TAING OUT THE BASE AND REPLACING IT FROM THE DIRT LEVEL UP. ASPHALT REPLACEMENT WOULD BE REPLACING THE ASPHALT. WE HAVE INLAY, THIS IS WHEN WE MILL OFF TWO INCHES OF ASPHALT AND REPLACE IT WITH TWO INCHES OF NEW ASPHALT. THE INLAY INVOLVES MILLING AT THE CURBLEN -- CURB LINE SO WE ARE FLUSH WITH THE CURB LINE. WE'RE INCREASING THE HEIGHT OF THE ROAD. AND THE MITER MAINTENANCE IS MICROSURFACE. THIS IS A THIN LAYER OF ASPHALT OVER THE TOP AND WE DO A FOG SEAL. >> JENNIFER MENTIONED WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT HOW COMPLETE STREETS IS NOT A ONE SIZE FACILITIES ALL APPROACH. THERE'S A LOT OF DESIGN CONSIDERATION WHEN APPLYING COMPLETE STREETS PRINCIPLES TO BETTER SERVE ALL OF THE COMMUNITIES AND MAKE THEM MULTIMODAL. THIS LIST PROVIDES SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT STAFF CONSIDERED WHEN INCORPORATING COMPLETE STREETS. THAT MAP ON THE UPPER RIGHT HAND CORNER IS THE MIDREGION COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS BIKE WAY SYSTEM. THIS PLAYS A BIG ROLE OF ADDING BIKE WAY FACILITIES WHEN WE'RE REPAVING OUR ROAD WAYS. WHEN WE'RE RETRO FITTING THE STREETS, IF THERE'S A PROPOSED FACILITY WE CONSIDER INCORPORATING THAT WITH OUR PROJECT. ON THE MAP THE DASHED LINES ARE PROPOSED FACILITIES WITH THE REGULAR LINES EXISTING BIKE WAY FACILITIES. WE KNOW BASED ON NATIONAL BEST PRACTICES DESIGNING SAFE STREETS FOR ALL ROAD WAY USERS IS A BEST PRACTICE AND VISION ZERO APPROACH. I'M HITTING HOME THE COMPLETE STREETS ARE A KEY STRATEGY TO REACH OUR VISION ZERO GOALS. ORDINANCE CALLED TO THE CREATION OF A NEW ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE OR THE RECONFIGURATION OF AN EXISTING COMMITTEE. WE HAVE THE CITY'S ALBUQUERQUE BIKE COMMITTEE. AND WE'RE ABLE TO REORGANIZE THAT GROUP INTO THE GREATER ALBUQUERQUE ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION. THE COMMITTEE HAS NINE SEATS OF WHICH EIGHT OF THEM ARE CURRENTLY FILLED. WE HAVE GREAT PUBLIC PARTICIPATION AS WELL AS STAFF AND PEER AGENCY PARTICIPATION. THEY ADVISE THE MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL, AND DIVISIONS ON PROJECTS, POLICY, PROGRAMS THAT IMPROVE OR IMPACT ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION WITHIN ALBUQUERQUE. >> I MENTIONED BEFORE OUR TOOLBOX. THIS IS A LITTLE BIT MORE COMPREHENSIVE LIST OF THE TOOLBOX. AND THE IDEA IS SOMETIMES YOU NEED A SCREWDRIVER, SOMETIMES YOU NEED A WRENCH. EACH STREET WE LOOK AT INDIVIDUALLY, AND WE LOOKED AT THE BEST WAY TO ADDRESS IT IF WE'RE LOOKING FOR SPEEDING, WE LOOK TO TRAFFIC CALMING. WE MIGHT DO ROAD DIETS TO SLOW DOWN THE TRAFFIC. ROUND ABOUTS. THOSE ARE A GREAT INCHANCEMENT TO MOVE TRAFFIC AS WELL AS STOP PEOPLE FROM SPEEDING. THESE ARE ALL THE DIFFERENT WAYS WE LOOK INTO THIS. FOR PEDESTRIAN WE HAVE LOTS OF OPTIONS ON CROSSWALKS. SOMETIMES IT'S TIMING THE SIGNALS AT THE INTERSECTION AND MAKING SURE THERE'S MEDIAN REFUGE IN THE ISLANDS. AND SOMETIMES WE PUT A HYBRID BEACON OR SOMETIMES REFERRED TO HIGH INTENSITY -- HAWK SYSTEM. WE ALWAYS LOOK AT WHAT FIT FOR EACH STREET. EACH STREET IS EVALUATED INDEPENDENTLY. AND AS I SAID YOUR ANNUAL STREET MAINTENANCE PROJECTS ARE ONE OF THE PLACES WE REALLY MAKE SURE WE TAKE CARE OF COMPLETE STREETS. AND OUR MAINTENANCE SYSTEM STARTS WITH A STREET CONDITION SURVEY. IT INVOLVES THE COMPANY THAT HAS A VAN THAT DOES A LASER EVALUATION OF EVERY STREET IN THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE. AND OUR LAST EVALUATION WAS IN 2021. WE DO THIS EVERY FIVE YEARS. THE COMPANY THAT WE WORK WITH IS CALLED ROAD WAY ASSET SERVICES. AND WE TAKE THIS DATA IT GOES INTO A PROGRAM AND GENERATES OUR STREET MAINTENANCE PROGRAM. WE LOOK AT FIVE YEARS. BUT WE CAN HAVE IT GENERATE FURTHER OUT THAN THAT. A LOT OF IT IS BASED ON BUDGET AND CAPACITY AT THE TIME. WE HAVE A LIST OF STREETS THAT ARE GOING TO BE MAINTAINED BASED ON AN UNBIASED DATA DRIVEN SYSTEM. ONCE WE KNOW WHAT STREETS WE WANT TO HAVE THAT YEAR FOR THE MAINTENANCE WE TAKE THIS TO OUR COMPLETE STREETS EVALUATION TEAM. THIS CONSISTS OF COUNCIL SERVICES, MUNICIPAL DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT, AS WELL AS ABQ RIDE, PLANNING, THE GAP GROUP AND ANY PUBLIC REPRESENTATIVE THAT WANT TO BE INVOLVED IN THE EVALUATION. PRIMARILY WHAT WE EVALUATE IS SIGNAGE AND STRIPING. THOSE ARE THE MAIN ITEMS WE CAN HIT WITH OUR MAINTENANCE PROGRAMS AND TRY AND IMPROVE THOSE SYSTEMS AND BRING OUR COMPLETE STREETS ORDINANCE. AND THE DMD SUBMIT A MEMO TO CITY COUNCIL OUTLINES THESE ROADWAYS TO BE REPAVED AND RESTRIPED. HERE IS FROM 2019 TO 2023 WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, THESE ARE THE STREETS OF ARTERIAL ROADS WE HAVE INVOLVED IN THIS. WE'RE NOT SHOWING RESIDENTIAL ROADS EVEN THOUGH WE DO MAINTENANCE ON RESIDENTIAL ROADS THIS IS BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES FOR ROAD DIETS AND STRIPING IN THOSE LOCATIONS. WE KNOW CHANGING THE WAY THE ROADS ARE DESIGNED CAN INFLUENCE AND ENCOURAGE BETTER BEHAVIOR. EACH YEAR WHEN WOO DO REHAB IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO PUT OUR ROADS BACK BETTER THAN THE WAY THEY WERE. WE ALWAYS LOOK FOR OPPORTUNITIES, MULTIMODAL BUT ESPECIALLY FOR PEOPLE WALKING AND BIKING SINCE THOSE ARE VULNERABLE ROAD WAY USERS. IF THE ROAD WAY CONTEXT SUPPORTS IT AND THERE'S ENOUGH SPACE YOU CAN SEE THIS IS A REALLY GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO ADD BIKE LANES OR IN THE BOTTOM RIGHT, THAT'S AN EXAMPLE OF THE BUFFER STRIPING WE TRIED ON SAN MATEO. THE CONTACTS DIDN'T SUPPORT BIKE LANES BUT WE'RE ABLE TO NARROW LANES TO ENCOURAGE DRIVERS TO SLOW DOWN. WE ADDED MORE SPACE TO PROVIDE COMFORT FOR PEOPLE WALKING ON SIDEWALKS. I WANT TO NOTE THE NEXT TWO MAPS ARE IN DRAFT. THEY'RE NOT COMPREHENSIVE OF EVERYTHING BUT IT'S WORK IN PROGRESS AND HOPEFULLY GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT WE'RE WORKING TOWARD. AS PART OF OUR VIGZ ZERO EFFORT WE BROUGHT A CONSULTANT TO PUT A YEAR IN REVIEW PRIORITIATION STRATEGY AND THEY UNDERSTAND WHAT PROJECTS ARE IMPLEMENTED AND WHICH ARE IN DESIGN. AND IT ALSO INCLUDES COMPLETE STREETS. COMPLETE STREETS ARE A GREAT WAY TO REACH VISION ZERO GOAL. THIS IS A MAP THAT IS WORK IN PROGRESS. THE PINK ARE PEDESTRIAN FACILITIES. JENNIFER MENTIONED HAWK SIGNALS AND HIGH VISIBILITY CROSSWALKS. THE ORANGE COLOR IS MULTIMODAL THAT TENDS TO ADDRESS MORE THAN ONE MODE. NOT JUST ONE MODE SPECIFICALLY. THE GREEN ARE INCLUDING BIKE FACILITIES. AND THEN MOVE TO THE NEXT MAP YOU HAVE DIFFERENT MAPS IN PLANNING AND DESIGN. THIS IS DRAFT. IT'S NOT ALL INCLUSIVE. BUT I HOPE YOU SEE WE CREATE A SYSTEM THAT EASILY TRACKS TRAFFIC SAFETY IMPROVEMENT AND HAVE A BETTER OF WHAT IS WORKING AND WHERE AND WHERE WE CAN REPLICATE IT ACROSS THE CITY. WITH THAT, MR. PRESIDENT, WE WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR HAVING US. WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. I APPRECIATE IT. IF I HAVE QUICK QUESTION, NOT SURE WHO THE BEST PERSON IS TO ANSWER. I LOVE ALL OF THE PROJECTS I LOVE VISION ZERO. WE PUT QUITE A BIT OF MONEY INTO IT. CAN SOMEONE TALK ABOUT HOW PROJECTS ARE CHOSEN? WHAT NEXUS ARE WE USING? >> THIS IS JENNIFER, THANK YOU, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, MR. PRESIDENT. THERE'S DIFFERENT METHOD OF SELECTING PROJECTS. THE ONE THAT I CAN TALK TO THE MOST EASILY IS THE MAINTENANCE PROJECTS. THOSE ARE DONE BY STREET MAINTENANCE SURVEY WHERE WE GET THE DATA AND IT RUNS THROUGH THE PROGRAM. THE PROGRAM TELLS US WHICH ONES. THERE'S OTHER MECHANISMS AND THEY'RE DRIVEN BY THE COUNCIL THEMSELVES. IF THEY HAVE ONES THAT ARE ON THEIR AGENDA THAT THEY WANT TO SEE IMPROVEMENTS DONE, AS WELL AS CAPITAL OUTLAY FUNDING AND SUCH FOR US TO DO LARGER PROJECTS. SOME OF THEM ARE COLLABORATIONS WITH THE COUNY OF BERNALILLO AND MAYBE AMAFCA OR ENTITY. THEY HAVE A PROJECT AND THE CITY COLLABORATES WITH THEM TO GET THEM DONE. THERE'S MANY DIFFERENT WAYS THE PROJECTS CAN BE SELECTED. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. ONE MORE QUESTION. WHAT KIND OF EVALUATION IS BEING DONE POST PROJECT TO SEE WHICH ONES WERE THE MOST EFFECTIVE? IS THERE ANY KIND OF RESEARCH OR HINDSIGHT TO MOVE FORWARD IN A BETTER MANNER? >> YES, THANKS. WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF PROCURING A DATA SYSTEM THAT WILL ACTUALLY RECORD WHERE WE CAN LOOK AT OUR CORRIDORS, LOT OF IT WE FOCUS ON HIGH ACCIDENTS AND INJURY CORRIDORS. WE'RE ACTUALLY IN THE PROCESS OF PROCURING SOFTWARE THAT WOULD MAKE THIS EASY FOR US TO LOOK AT IT AND SEE THE DIFFERENCE THAT THESE CHANGES HAVE BEEN MADE WHEN WE RESTRIPED OR DONE ADDED BIKE LANES. WE CAN LOOK AT THE CORRIDORS AND SEE THAT. WE'RE HOPING IN THE NEXT YEAR WE CAN START HAVING THAT KIND OF DATA AVAILABLE. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL I HAD, MR. PRESIDENT. >>COUN. BENTON: JUST A QUICK QUESTION FROM MYSELF. THE COMMITTEE THAT REVIEWS MAINTENANCE PROJECTS AND THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT COME UP IN THE COURSE OF REGULAR MAINTENANCE, IS THAT MEETING AND ADVISING THE DEPARTMENT? >> COUNCILOR BENTON, I ACTUALLY MIGHT ASK IF PAT CAN HELP ME OUT. I'M RELATIVELY NEW. I HAVEN'T BEEN INVOLVED IN ONE OF THE COMMITTEES. >> MR. PRESIDENT, IT IS CURRENTLY MEETING. YES. >>COUN. BENTON: THAT'S A GROUP THAT CONSISTS OF THE COG AS WELL? >> YES, IT DOES. >>COUN. BENTON: HOW IS THAT COMMITTEE CONSTITUTED? >> I SHOULD GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO SHANNON BECAUSE I KNOW SHE PROVIDES ASSISTANCE IN PUTTING THAT DPRUP -- GROUP TOGETHER. >> I CALLED AN INFORMAL COMMITTEE. THERE'S NO FORMAL APPOINTMENTS TO THIS. IT'S SEVERAL DEPARTMENTS INCLUDING SOWNSAL SERVICES, TRANSIT, MR. COG, WE HAVE A COUPLE OF REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE COMMUNITY ACTIVE IN THE BICYCLING COMMUNITY. WE SIT AROUND AND LOOK AT 20ISH ROAD WAY DESIGNS AND COMMENT ON WHERE IMPROVEMENTS CAN BE MADE. WE'RE STILL MEETING AND WE'LL START TO GET TOGETHER TO DO THE NEXT ROUND OF ROADWAY DESIGNS. >>COUN. BENTON: THANKS. AS THE ORIGINAL SPONSOR OF THE LEGISLATION, OUR FOCUS WAS NOT SO MUCH ON NEW STREETS. IT'S JUST STANDARD PRACTICE TO INCORPORATE WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. WHEN WE REHAB AN OLDER STREET THAT'S AN OPPORTUNITY AS WELL. IT'S MAYBE NOT AS SEXY AND EXPENSIVE BUT IT CAN BE VERY EFFECTIVE. WE WANTED TO REALLY EMPHASIZE THAT. ESPECIALLY WITH REGARD TO THE OLDER PARTS OF THE CITY WHERE THINGS WERE BUILT FOR THE AUTOMOBILE AND NOT MUCH MORE. AND VERY SUBSTANDARD FACILITIES FOR PEDESTRIANS. IT'S ALWAYS -- I FIND IT MORE CHALLENGING REALLY THAN DESIGNING NEW ROADWAYS. THANKS FOR BRINGING THIS UP, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. AND THANKS TO THE DEPARTMENT. AND OUR VISION ZERO COORDINATOR FOR BRINGING US UP TO SPEED. >>COUN. BENTON: ALL RIGHT. WE'LL MOVE ON. LET ME GET BACK TO MY MANUSCRIPT. WE HAVE NO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. WE'LL MOVE TO GENERAL PUBLICS COMMENT. MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC CAN PROVIDE PUBLIC COMMENT TO THE COUNCIL VIRTUALLY IF THEY SIGNED UP PER THE INSTRUCTIONS PUBLISHED IN THE AGENDA ON FRIDAY PRIOR TO THE MEETING. AND THE CASE OF THE LARGE NUMBER OF PEOPLE SIGNED UP WE'RE ONLY GOOD -- GOING TO HAVE A MINUTE PER PERSON. I APOLOGIZE. IT'S JUST WE HAVE A VERY LENGTHY AGENDA AND QUITE A FEW PEOPLE WANTING TO SPEAK. WE'LL GET STARTED. ANY COMMENTS ARE TO BE ADDRESSED TO THE COUNCILORS ONLY AND THROUGH THE COUNCIL PRESIDENT. SO, NO DISRUPTIVE COMMENT OR CONDUCT. MR. CORNELIUES, PLEASE CALL THE FIRST SPEAKER. >> THANK YOU, OUR FIRST SPEAKER IS BRIAN FOLLOWED BY CHRISTOPHER. >> CAN YOU HEAR ME? THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME HAVE THIS MOMENT. I JUST WANT TO SAY AGAIN I SPOKE LAST TIME IN REGARD TO THE ZERO FARES. PLEASE ALLOW THEM TO STAY THE WAY THEY ARE. I REALLY DO APPRECIATE THE TWO COUNCILORS THAT TALKED ABOUT THE GENUINE DATA IN REGARD TO HOW THE INSTANCES ON THE BUS HAVE INCREASED BUT IT'S ALSO POR PORTIONAL TO RIDERSHIP. I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO YOU FOR ADDRESSING THAT LAST TIME. PLEASE DON'T PUT IN ANY BARRIERS IN REGARD TO SETTING UP A WAY OF TRACKING. IT JUST DOESN'T SEEM LIKE IT WOULD BE A BENEFIT TO PEOPLE WHO ESPECIALLY WHO ALREADY HAVE A DIFFICULTY IN THEIR LIFE AND MAY HAVE EVEN MORE DIFFICULTY JUST ACCESSING PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION OF ANY KIND. THAT IS MY BIGGEST CONCERN WHEN I WANTED TO ADDRESS. THANK YOU. >> OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS CHRISTOPHER FOLLOWED BY [ INAUDIBLE ]. >> HELLO, THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME AND GRIVING ME AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. AND FOR A PERSON LIKE ME THAT GREW UP IN THE MIDDLE EAST AND WHEN I FIRST CAME HERE IT WAS CHALLENGING FOR ME TO GET AROUND THE CITY AND GO TO SCHOOL. BASED ON MY EXPERIENCE, IT WAS HARD TO PAY EVERY TIME. MY BUS PASS WAS EXPIRED OR I DIDN'T HAVE BUS FUNDS. DURING ZERO FARES I HAVE SEEN AND HEARD FROM OTHER FAMILIES WHO HAVE BENEFITTED FROM THE FREE FARES AND THAT INCLUDES GETTING ACCESS TO RESOURCES TO THE FAMILIES NEEDS. I THINK IT WILL BE A GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR EVERYONE IN THE CITY TO HAVE FREE TRANSPORTATION TO GO AROUND AND BASED ON THE DATA THAT WAS TRACKED IT SHOWS THE SAFETY IS INCREASED AND THE BUS RIDERS INCREASED. THANK YOU. >> JOSEPH, FOLLOWED BY XAVIER. >> THANK YOU. CAN I BE HEARD? >> YOU CAN. >> THANK YOU. I WANTED TO COME AND TALK ON THE PROPOSAL TO CHANGE THE POLICING IN THE OPEN SPACE. I'M THE PRESIDENT OF A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION HERE AND I THINK THERE'S A GENERAL CONSENSUS THAT THE OPEN SPACE IS THE JEWEL OF ALBUQUERQUE. IT'S THE REASON WHY PEOPLE MOVE HERE. IT'S THE REASON WHY I'M HERE. AND A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT I KNOW. AND SO, WE WOULD BE VERY CONCERNED IF THERE WAS A DOWNGRADING IN THE PUBLIC MAINTENANCE OF SAFETY AND THE FACILITIES IN THE OPEN SPACE. I LIKE TO SUPPORT THE COMMENTS MADE BY COUNCILOR GROUT. AND WE ARE CONCERNED, IF YOU'RE REPLACING THE SWORN POLICE WITH UNSPECIFIED PEOPLE. >> XAVIER, FOLLOWED BY GENIE. GENIE FOLLOWED BY JESUS. >> HELLO, EVERYONE. I JUST WANTED TO SAY ZERO FARES HAS MADE A HUGE IMPACT FOR ME. ALSO HAVING A DISABILITY IT'S ALWAYS HARD BEEN HARD TO GET TO WHERE I NEED TO BE. BECAUSE GETTING A RIDE FROM PEOPLE CAN BE HARD. BECAUSE SOME ARE EITHER BUSY OR HAVE A VEHICLE THAT ISN'T ALWAYS ACCESSIBLE. SOMETIMES THE ONLY OPTION I HAVE IS TO USE THE SUN VAN AND/OR USE THE CITY BUS. HAVING ZERO FARES MAKE IT EASIER FOR ME BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE TO PAY OR HAVE AN I.D. OR STICKER PASS. IN THE PAST WHEN I DIDN'T HAVE MY STICKER PASS OR WHEN IT EXPIRED I WASN'T ABLE TO GET ANYWHERE. IF I WASN'T ABLE TO PAY, I HAVE MISSED MANY RIDE AND OPPORTUNITIES BECAUSE OF THIS. KEEPING ZERO FARES MAKES IT EASIER FOR ME AND OTHERS WITH DISABILITIES TO ACCESS AND BE WHERE WE NEED TO BE. >> CHRISTOPHER FOLLOWED BY CYNTHIA. >> CYNTHIA. >> HI, I'M AN ARGINIZER -- ORGANIZER WITH THE PARTY OF SOCIALISM. THIS MEETING YOU DECIDED TO TALK ABOUT HOW TO POLICE HOMELESS PEOPLE AND ENCAMPMENT PLACES. STILL NO RESOURCE FOR WHERE THOSE GO OR HOW TO ADDRESS THE HOMELESS ISSUE THAT'S ACTUALLY GOING ON IN THE CITY. A LOT OF YELLING ABOUT HOW TO FUND MORE POLICING BUT NOT HOUSING AT ALL. AND THERE'S BEEN AT LEAST 18 SHOOTINGS INVOLVING POLICE OFFICERS. I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY YOU WOULD WANT TO FUND THAT MORE AS A SOLUTION TO A SITUATION THAT ACTUALLY REQUIRES HOUSING, HEALTH CARE, AND ACCESS TO JOBS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. I WOULD JUST LIKE TO REALLY SAY THE THINGS THAT ARE ON THIS AGENDA LIKE TAKING AWAY ZERO FARES FOR ALL AND TRYING TO BRING BACK QUALIFIED IMMUNITY ARE TONE DEAF TO THE NEED OF THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE. >> GOOD EVENING, CONGRATULATIONS, COUNCILOR PEÑA. SOME NEW INFORMATION HAS COME TO LIGHT REGARDING SKYROCKETING RENTS IN THE REGION. AN ACTIVE CARTEL IS NOW A SUBJECT OF THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE INVESTIGATION. THIS CARTEL IS ACCUSED OF HAVING FIXING PRICES AND MANIPULATING RENTAL PRICES NATION WIDE, INCLUDING STUDENT HOUSE, SECTION EIGHT HOUSING. I HOPE FOR, IN FACT I THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE TO EXPECT YOUR SUPPORT IN THESE ENDEAVORS BECAUSE IF WE FAIL THESE NEW CONSTRUCTION EFFORTS WE HAVE BEEN SOLD FOR SIGH RUCTING RENTS WILL BE NOTHING BUT THOUSANDS MORE APARTMENTS GOING AT INSANE RATES. THANK YOU I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. PLEASE CONTACT ME FOR DETAILS. >> NEXT UP IS BARBARA FOLLOWED BY CARL. >> THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY. I'M A FORMER DIRECTOR OF THE PARKS AND REC DEPARTMENT. I'M A MEMBER OF THE OPEN SPACE ADVISORY BOARD. WHICH HAS VOTED UNANIMOUSLY AGAINST DISBANDING THE APS OPEN SPACE UNIT. HERE'S THE TRAINING YOU WILL BE LOSING, THEY OPEN SPACE UNIT OFFICERS ARE TRAINED EMTs, ESSENTIAL TO INJURED HIKERS, THEY ARE SWIFT WATER TECHNICIANS AND TRAINED DIVERS FOR EVIDENCE COLLECTION AND GOD FORBID BODY RECOVERY. THEY'RE TRAINED DRIVERS WHO PATROL FOR FIRE DETECTION ASK BODY RECOVERY. THEY'RE TRAINED RESCUE TECHNICIANS. TRAINED TO GET EVIDENCE OR INDIVIDUALS IN THE MOUNTAINS. THEY'RE LAW NORSEMENT CERTIFIED APD OFFICERS. IT'S NOT CLEAR WHAT IS GAINED BY REASSIGNING THESE GUYS. >>COUN. BENTON: MS. TAYLOR IS ON THE OPEN SPACE ADVISORY BOARD. I ALLOW HER TO FINISH HER COMMENT QUICKLY. >> IT MEANS THE FOOTHILL AND POEK AND PEOPLE THAT NOIJ NOIJ RESPONSE ? >> IN THE END STREET PATROL WILL HAVE TO BE DIVERTED TO RESPOND IN OPEN SPACE. ANYWAY. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT, VERY MUCH. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU. >> CARLED FOLLOWED BY STEVEN. >> STEVEN FOLLOWED BY SARAH. >>COUN. BENTON: JUST TO MAKE CLEAR EVERYONE WATCHING, IF YOU'RE INTENDING TO SPEAK WITH REGARD TO ZERO FARES, I WANT TO TELL EVERYONE THAT IS BEING DEFERRED TONIGHT. IT WILL NOT BE VOTED UPON TONIGHT. I THINK THERE WILL BE A FLOOR SUBSTITUTE MOVED AND IT WILL BE DEFERRED UNTIL THE MEETING OF JANUARY 4th. >> I APOLOGIZE, I WAS ON MUTE. I DIDN'T REALIZE. I'M STEVE GLASS. DO I HAVE A FEW SECONDS TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT? OR HAVE I LOST IT? >> PLEASE PROCEED. >> I APOLOGIZE. I'M STEVE, I'M THE PRESIDENT OF THE OPEN SPACE ALLIANCE WHICH IS THE OFFICIAL NON-PROFIT SUPPORT GROUP FOR THE OPEN SPACE DIVISION. I WOULD LIKE TO ECHO EVERYTHING THAT BARBARA SAID ON BEHALF OF THE ALLIANCE. WE REALLY HAVE A UNIQUE SITUATION WITH OPEN SPACE IN ALBUQUERQUE. AND WE NEED A UNIQUE POLICE FORCE TO HELP US MAINTAIN ORDER AND THE LAW IN THAT AREA. I OPPOSE THE DISBANDING OF THE OPEN SPACE DIVISION. >> SARAH FOLLOWED BY REX. >> COUNCILOR BENTON, OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS, I IMPLORE YOU TO KEEP SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES IN THE IDO, SINCE THE CLOSURE OF CORONADO PARK MANY LOOK FOR PLACES TO CAMP AVOIDING OVERCROWDED AND UNSAFE SHELTERS. A HISPANIC WOMAN CITED FOR SLEEPING IN A DOG PARK AND AN INDIGENOUS MAN FOR SLEEPING IN A CEMETERY. IF WE DO NOT MAINTAIN SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES IN THE IDO I PROPOSE A NEW MOTTO, ALBUQUERQUE, NEW MEXICO, THE CITY WITH PARKS FOR DOGS, CEMETERIES FOR DEAD PEOPLE, BUT NO SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES FOR UNHOUSED HUMAN BEINGS. PLEASE DO THE RIGHT THING. VOTE TO RETAIN SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES IN THE IDO, A DECISION THAT BENEFITS ONE ALBUQUERQUE. >> REX FOLLOWED BY PEGGY. >> MR. PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL, I SERVED AS THE SUPER INTENDENED OF THE OPEN SPACE DIVISION FROM 1984 TO 1994. I WOULD LIKE TO SAY A COUPLE THINGS ABOUT THE DIFFERENT PRIORITIES OF THE OPEN SPACE VERSUS APD. LISTENING TO THE CHIEF TALK ABOUT THE PROGRAM, IT'S VERY CLEAR TO ME THAT APD IS VERY DIFFERENT PROGRAM THAN OPEN SPACE PATROL AND RESOURCE PROTECTION. IT'S MORE REACTIVE AND FOCUSED ON CRIME AND IT'S CRISIS-DRIVEN. OPEN SPACE ON THE OTHER HAND IS FOCUSED ON THE PATROL, EDUCATION, RESOURCE PROTECTION, OUTREACH, AND WE NEED PEOPLE OUT THERE CONTACTING THE PUBLIC. THAT DOESN'T TRANSLATE INTO CRIME STATISTICS, I KNOW. IT'S VERY IMPORTANT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >>COUN. BENTON: I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION. THANK YOU FOR YOUR LONGTIME SUPPORT OF OPEN SPACE AND MANY CAPACITIES. THE HISTORY OF THE OPEN SPACE PATROLS, IT WAS ORIGINALLY, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, WAS INDEPENDENT OR QUASI-INDEPENDENT FROM THE REST OF APD WAS IT NOT? >> YES, SIR, WE STARTED THE PROGRAM IN 1985 BY HIRING SOME FULLY SWORN OFFICERS AND IT GREW TO 18 FULL-TIME OFFICER POSITIONS IN 2004. WHEN IT WAS TRANSFERRED TO APD. >>COUN. BENTON: THAT WAS AN ADMINISTRATIVE DECISION, I SUPPOSE, AFT -- OF THE MAYOR. >>COUN. BENTON: >> CORRECT. >>COUN. BENTON: I JUST WANT TO ADD THAT CLARIFICATION FOR FOLKS THAT DIDN'T REMEMBER THAT. INCLUDING MYSELF. I REMEMBER, JUST COULDN'T REMEMBER EXACTLY. >> PEGGY FOLLOWED BY SARAH. >> I HAVE THREE UNRELATED COMMENTS. I DID SEND THEM TO ALL THE COUNCILORS. I SUPPORT CONTINUING FREE TRANSIT WITHOUT HAVING TO GO THROUGH PASSES. AFTER READING ABOUT $30 MILLION BEING ALLOCATED TO THE RAIL YARD TRAIL I WOULD LIKE TO FIND THE MONEY TO COMPLETE THE ALAMEDA DRAIN TRAIL. HEARING RUMOR OF DISBANDING THE OPEN SPACE POLICE FORCE, I SUPPORT CONTINUING THE FUNCTION AND EXPANDING THE NUMBERS BEYOND FIVE. I USE THE BOSQUE AREA DAILY, FEEL SAFE THERE AND NOTICE FEW PROBLEMS. I THINK THAT IS DUE TO THEIR PRESENCE. THERE MIGHT ME OTHER OPTIONS. I THINK WE WOULD HAVE MORE PROBLEMS WITHOUT THEIR PRESENCE. THERE MIGHT BE OTHER OPTIONS SUCH AS EXPANDING THE OPEN SPACE BUDGET TO REMOVE THE RESPONSIBILITY OVER TO THEM. OTHERWISE, I FEAR THESE OPEN SPACE AREAS WILL BE [ INAUDIBLE ]. >> SARAH FOLLOWED BY CHRISTOPHER. CHRISTOPHER FOLLOWED BY ANNE. >> GOOD EVENING, I AM SPEAKING TOONALITY AS A FORMER CHAIR OF THE TRANSIT BOARD AND EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR FOR THE BROTHER AND BUS RIDERS UNION. THE BOARD PASSED OUR FIFTH -- IN SUPPORT OF AFFORDABLE TRANSIT OR ZERO FARES. THE RESOLUTION OUTLINES THE INFORMATION FROM ABQ RIDE ONBOARD SURVEY WHERE A VAST MAJORITY OF BUS RIDERS SUPPORT THE CONTINUATION OF THE ZERO FARES. AND THE MAJORITY IDENTIFY AS LOW INCOME MAKING LESS THAN $25,000 ANNUALLY AND NOT POSSESSING A DRIVERS'S LICENSE. TOGETHER FOR BROTHERS ORGANIZED SINCE OCTOBER 2021 AN EQUITY AND COMMUNITY SAFETY GROUP WHICH -- AFFILULATED WITH THE RIDERS OF THE UNITED STATES AND 30 TRANSIT RIDERS ACROSS THE COUNTRY AT BUSES AND BUS STOPS. >> MR. PRESIDENT, PLEASE MAY I SPEAK. I WAS MUTED BEFORE. THIS IS SARAH. >> SARAH FOLLOWED BY ANNE. >> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT AND COUNCILORS. I'M HERE TO SPEAK FROM A STATEMENT THAT WAS PASSED YESTERDAY BY THE ALBUQUERQUE MONTHLY MEETING OF THE RELIGIOUS SOCIETY OF FRIENDS. QUAKERS. AND WE ARE VERY CONCERNED THAT SWEEPS OF UNHOUSED PEOPLE ARE DESTROYING PERSONAL PROPERTY, EXPOSING PEOPLE TO HARSH CONDITIONS IN THE WINTER, CREATING AN IMMORAL IN HUMANE POSITION IN THE CITY FOR UNHOUSED PEOPLE. THERE ARE ALTERNATIVES AND ONE OF THEM IS SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES. I PLEA ALL COUNCILORS TO KEEP SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES IN THE IDO. WE ALSO BROADEN THE CONCEPT OF RESPITE CARE AT GATEWAY. WE COULD EXPAND THE HOTEL VOUCHER PROGRAM. WE CAN DO SIMILAR PROGRAMS TO HOUSTON, IMPLEMENTING REGULAR VISITS TO OUTDOOR SHELTERS. LET'S BEGIN CONSTRUCTIVE ALTERNATIVES. THANK YOU. >> ANN FOLLOWED BY XAVIER. >> GOOD EVENING, I AM THE C CEO OF PROSPERITY WORKS. IT HELPS NEW MEXICANS ACHIEVE ECONOMIC PROSPERITY. I'M HERE TONIGHT TO SUPPORT THE PASSAGE OF ORDINANCE 22-53 THE TAX PREPARER AND CONSUMER RIGHTS ORDINANCE. SERVE ON A TEAM THAT REVIEWS GUIDANCE. THIS IS A GOOD COMPROMISE THAT PROTECTS TAXPAYERS IN ALBUQUERQUE AND ADDRESSING INDUSTRY CONCERNS ABOUT THE ORDINANCE PASSED IN FEBRUARY OF 2021. CONSUMERS DESERVE TO KNOW HOW MUCH THEY'RE GOING TO PAY FOR SERVICES WITH NO HIDDEN FEES. THEY DESERVE TO KNOW IF THE PERSON IS QUALIFIED TO DO THEIR RETURN. THEY DESERVE TO HAVE THE RETURN PREPARED ACCURATELY AND HONESTLY. THEY DESERVE RECOURSE WHEN SOMETHING GOES WRONG. THANK YOU FOR YOUR ACTION FOR SUPPORTING THIS CONSUMER ISSUE. INTRODUCED WITH NO AMENDMENTS. >> XAVIER FOLLOWED BY CARL. >> THANK YOU, CITY COUNCIL. I DID HEAR THAT THE ZERO FARES IS BEING TAKEN OFF THE AGENDA. I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S BECAUSE OF THE REVIEW OF THE RECENT REPORT THAT WENT OUT AND HOW THERE WAS LOT OF CHALLENGES WITH THE PLAN OF CHANGING ZERO FARES THE WAY IT IS. IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE KEEP IT SIMPLE. WHICH IT IS NOW. IT'S SERVING US. I CAN'T IMAGINE THE DATA WE'RE NOT COLLECTING OR DON'T HAVE ON THE IMPACT IT HAD DURING THE PANDEMIC. IT PROBABLY WAS ONE OF THE MAJOR SAVERS FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE CITY. WE CAN'T PROVE IT, UNFORTUNATELY, EVEN THOUGH THAT IS AND I KNOW A LOT OF ORGANIZATIONS ARE WORKING TO PROVE THAT. I THINK THE OTHER MESSAGE FOR MYSELF TO YOURSELF AND THOSE WHO ARE LISTENING, IS THAT THE CITY IS BEST GOVERNED BY THE PEOPLE. I HOPE TO CONTINUE TO LOOK AT WAYS ON THE CITY SO WE CAN BETTER TAKE ACTION ON THE OFFERING. THERE'S REALLY GREAT IDEAS THAT COME FROM THE PEOPLE IN THE CITY. >> CARL FOLLOWED BY GENIE. GENIE FOLLOWED BY CARL. >> HI, CAN YOU HEAR ME OKAY? I LIVE NEAR THE BOSQUE AND I'M PRESIDENT OF A VOLUNTEER CITIZENS GROUP FRIENDS OF CANDELARIA NATURE PRESERVE WHICH HAS 65 MEMBERS FROM THE CITY. I LIKE TO EXPRESS SUPPORT FOR RETAINING THE OPEN SPACE DIVISION POLICE BECAUSE OF THEIR KNOWLEDGE OF UNIQUE CHALLENGES OF PROTECTING THE CITY'S OPEN SPACE AND RESIDENTS. THEY RESPOND TO SPECIAL SITUATIONS THAT REQUIRES INJURED PEOPLE AND PEOPLE WITH WEAPONS. WE NEED THEIR KNOWLEDGE OF OPEN SPACES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> CARL. >> GOOD EVENING, CITY COUNCIL, I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR FOR GALA THE HOTEL ASSOCIATION. I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE ORGANIZATION OF HOTELS AND TOURISM PARTNERS IN SUPPORT OF THE THE FOLLOWING ORDINANCES. THE FIRST ONE IS 0-22-33 WHICH IS THE DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE TO REMOVE ALL REFERENCES TO THE SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES. WE FEEL AS AN ORGANIZATION THAT WE DO SUPPORT THE CITY AND ARE EMPATHETIC TO THE EFFORT TO MANAGE THE HOMELESS CRISIS. DUE TO LACK OF SPECIFICS WE FEEL IT NEEDS TO BE REMOVED FROM THE IDO. RIGHT NOW IT ALLOWS THE SOS TO POP OUT WITHOUT PUBLIC NOTICE. THE SECOND AMENDMENT IS O-22. 48 AMENDING CHAPTER FIVE OF THE ORDINANCE OF ALBUQUERQUE. THE PUBLIC PURCHASE ORDINANCE RELATING TO COMPETITIVE REQUIREMENTS OF THE CODE. THAT'S REGARDING VISIT ALBUQUERQUE. I'M IN SUPPORT OF THAT. WE'RE IN SUPPORT OF THE ORDINANCE AND WE HOPE YOU SUPPORT IT AS WELL. THANK YOU. >> MR. PRESIDENT THAT CONCLUDES GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU. AND WE'LL GET BACK TO THE AGENDA. BEAR WITH ME. >>COUN. BENTON: WE'RE AT QUESTION AND ANSWER PERIOD. ANY QUESTION FOR THE ADMINISTRATION? COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. >> EXCUSE ME, SORRY, WE HAVE SEVERAL PEOPLE WHO ARE SIGNED UP BUT HAVEN'T SPOKEN YET. FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. >> WHAT IS YOUR NAME, SIR? >> WE HAVE SEVERAL PEOPLE. I'M BENJAMIN. ANGLEANA. MAYBE THAT'S IT. >>COUN. BENTON: ARE THOSE FOEKZ -- FOLKS SIGNED UP? >> WE HAVE MR. -- WE SKIPPED HIM BECAUSE HE WAS NOT IN THE ROOM. THE OTHER SPEAKER IS NOT ON THE LIST. >> SHE SIGNED UP FOR AN ITEM LATER ON THE AGENDA. >>COUN. BENTON: ALL RIGHT. WHY DON'T YOU GO AHEAD? >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. I'M GOING TO SPEAK AGAINST QUALIFIED IMMIMMUNITY. THE ARGUMENT IS WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH POLICE OFFICERS TO DO ALL THE JOBS WE'RE ASKING THEM TO DO. AND QUALIFIED IMMUNITY WILL ATTRACT MORE. FIRST, I'D ARGUE IF WE'RE ATTRACTING OFFICERS BY REDUCING ACCOUNTABILITY THESE AREN'T THE TYPE OF PEOPLE WE WANT ON THE POLICE FORCE. SECOND, THOSE THAT DO HAVE IMMUITY STILL HAVE SHORTAGES. THIRD, NOT HAVING ENOUGH POLICE OFFICERS SPEAKS TO THE FACT THAT WE'RE ASKING POLICE OFFICERS TO SOLVE EVERY PROBLEM OF OUR CITY WHICH DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. HOMELESSNESS SHOULD BE RESPONDED TO WITH SOCIAL SERVICE AND HOUSING ACCESSIBILITY, DRUG ADDICTION, THAT'S A MEDICAL ISSUE. YOUTH PETTY CRIME, THAT'S REALLY AN ISSUE OF WE NEED COMMUNITY PROGRAMS. AND AFTER SCHOOL PROGRAMS. WELFARE CHECKS THOSE SHOULD BE RESPONDED TO WITH SOCIAL WORKERS. I WANT TO EMPHASIZE QUALIFIED IMMUNE THEY IS NOT A REAL SOLUTION. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU. COMBAEZ QUESTIONS . >>COUN. BENTON: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE ADMINISTRATION? >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES, I'M STILL WAITING. I HAVE A QUESTION FOR MR. RAEL. I JUST LIKE TO ASK HIM A QUESTION. I THINK MR. RAEL AND I HAVE BEEN WITH THE CITY FOR A LONG TIME. I'VE BEEN AROUND THE CITY FOR CLOSE TO 30 YEARS. SAME AS MR. RAEL. WE GO WAY BACK, IS THAT CORRECT? >> COUNCILOR BENTON, COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, MR. RAEL IS ON VACATION. HE WOULD BE BACK ON THURSDAY. IF THERE'S A QUESTION I CAN HELP YOU WITH, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. IF YOU CAN TELL ME WHAT THE QUESTION IS. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: WELL THE QUESTION I HAVE FOR MR. RAEL IS WE'VE BEEN ON FOR A LONG TIME HIM AND I. I HAVE NEVER SEEN THE CARNAGE THAT WE'RE FACING HERE IN ALBUQUERQUE WITH THE HOMICIDE RATE. THAT IS BASICTHRY QUESTION THAT I'M DEALING WITH. I WANTED TO ASK WHAT ARE WE GOING TO BE DOING WITH THE RECORD HOMICIDE? THERE'S A HIGH NUMBER OF WOMEN MURDERED. THERE'S A LARGE NUMBER OF HOMELESS MURDERED. THE CRISIS IS IMPACTING EVERY INDIVIDUAL THAT RESIDES OR VISITS ALBUQUERQUE. I JUST WANTED TO ASK WHAT THE MAYOR'S PLAN IN REFERENCE TO DEALING WITH THIS HORRIFIC MURDER RECORD. WE SHOULDN'T LET IT OVERSHADOW ALSO THE EXPLOSION OF PROPERTY CRIMES AND BUSINESS OWNERS AND THE HOMES THAT ARE BEING DAMAGED AND DESTROYED AND THE DRUG DEALERS ON THE STREET. HUMAN FECES, URINE, EVERYTHING WE'RE DEALING WITH THE ON STREET. THOSE ARE THE ISSUES I WANTED TO ASK MR. RAEL WHAT THE MAYOR'S PLANS ARE IN ORDER TO DEAL WITH THE SITUATION. THANK YOU. >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, AS YOU'RE AWARE, MAYOR'S INITIATIVE TO TACKLE THE CRIME IS THE MCI. WHICH WE HAVE BEEN TALKING TO COUNCILORS AS WELL AS THE PUBLIC. I'LL BE HAPPY TO PASS YOUR MESSAGE TO MR. RAEL AND WHEN HE COMES BACK HE CAN SCHEDULE A MEETING WITH YOU. MEANWHILE, CHIEF MEDINA IS ALSO HERE, IF YOU DON'T MIND, I WOULD LIKE CHIEF MEDINA TO WEIGH IN. >> COUNCILOR BENTON, COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, YOU KNOW, HOMICIDES ARE VERY COMPLICATED. WE KNOW THAT. WE'RE NOT THE ONLY CITY SEEING THIS. WE ALSO KNOW THERE'S A VARIETY OF REASONS WHY WE'RE SEEING AN INCREASE OF HOMICIDES. WHETHER IT'S THE FACT THAT WE HAVE INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE MENTAL HEALTH CONDITIONS AT HIGHER RATE THAN EVER BEFORE. WE HAVE INDIVIDUALS WITH SUBSTANCE ABUSE PROBLEMS. WE HAVE A GROUP OF YOUNG ADULTS THAT HAVE VERY LITTLE CONFLICT RESOLUTION SKILLS AND MINOR INCIDENTS END UP BEING HOMICIDES. AND WE HAVE A COMMUNITY THAT THE LAST STATISTIC I SAW NATIONALLY WAS THE NUMBER OF INDIVIDUALS CARRYING A FIREARM AS QUADRUPLED SINCE THE PANDEMIC. WHEN YOU ADD ALCOHOL AND SUBSTANCE ABUSE TO SOME OF THE FACTORS, IT'S NO WONDER WE'VE SEEN A SHARP INCREASE IN HOMICIDES. WE NEED THE METRO CRIME INITIATIVE TO HELP US GET MENTAL HEALTH RESOURCES TO AS MANY INDIVIDUALS THAT NEED THEM AS POSSIBLE. WE NEED TO WORK TOGETHER WITH THE STATE LEGISLATURE. WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE'RE GOING TO DEAL WITH INDIVIDUALS DEEMED INCOMPETENT TO STAND TRIAL AND HOW TO GET THEM HELP AND RESOURCES THEY NEED. A LOT OF CRIME NUMBERS ARE DOWN. OVER THE PAST FIVE YEARS, WE RES LEASED THOSE STATISTICS. CRIME IS -- WE DID REACH THE SAME NUMBER OF HOMICIDES. THAT NUMBER IS CAPABLE OF FLUCTUATING. WE'VE SEEN A LITTLE REDUCTION IN VIOLENT CRIME. UNTIL WE FIX SOME OF THE SOCIETAL PROBLEMS WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO SEE CRIME. OUR OFFICERS EVERY DAY, CONTRARY TO WHAT EVERYBODY MAY THINK, OUR OFFICERS ARREST PEOPLE OVER AND OVER AGAIN. WE CAN'T KEEP THEM IN CUSTODY. WE ARE TAKING THE INITIATIVE TO MAKE SOME OF OUR OWN OUTCOMES BETTER. AND THAT WE'VE JUST ASSIGNED AN OUTSIDER WHO CAME TO THE ALBUQUERQUE POLICE DEPARTMENT THAT HAD GREAT KNOWLEDGE OF THE COURTS. COMMANDER HEARTSOCK IS ASSIGNED, AND THIS IS VERY NEW, WE'RE GOING TO HELP WORK AND TRY TO INCREASE THE AMOUNT OF DETENTION CASES THAT WE'RE HEARING. THE D.A.'S OFFICE WAS ABOUT 20% OF THE TIME OR LESS THEY ASK FOR DETENTION ON AN INDIVIDUAL WHO IS QUALIFIED FOR. WE'RE GOING TO USE THE SHIELD UNIT WE'VE BUILT IN 2018 TO INCREASE THE AMOUNT OF TIME WE ASK FOR DETENTION AND HOPE WE BUILD BETTER CASES. THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE IS ASSISTING ME AND WE'VE IDENTIFIED FIVE REPEAT OFFENDERS DEEMED INCOMPETENT AND WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO SET UP HEARINGS AND PUSH HEARINGS FORWARD TO SEE IF WE CAN GET THESE INDIVIDUALS TO ENFORCE RESOURCES THEY NEED FOR MENTAL HEALTH. WE NEED TO GET OFFICERS ON THE STREETS. WHEN YOU AND I HAVE -- WE BOTH KNOW 70% OF THE TIME WE SHOWED UP TO THE COURT HOUSE AND WE PLEAD THAT TO 90 DAYS DEFERRED SENTENCE. WE ARE WORKING TO GET AN ATTORNEY TO DO THIS EARLIER WERE THE PROCESS WITH THE PUBLIC DEFENDER'S OFFICE AND REDUCE THE TIME THEY SPEND IN COURT. THERE'S NOT ONE THING THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE, THERE'S SEVERAL THINGS TO BE DONE. APD NEEDS TO CONDUCT BETTER INVESTIGATIONS. APD IS COMMITTED TO GET AS MANY RESOURCES AND RESOURCES ON THE GROUND TO FIGHT CRIME. WE'LL CONTINUE TO DO SO. APD IS INCREASED TRAFFIC CITATIONS WHICH SOMETIMES RESULTS IN FELONY ARRESTS FOR WARRANTS. WE'LL CONTINUE TO DO SO. THERE'S NOT ONE SOLUTION AND NOT JUST ONE ENTITY THAT NEEDS TO BRING THE SOLUTION TO THE TABLE. WE NEED TO REBUILD MENTAL HEALTH CAPACITY IN THE STATE OF NEW MEXICO. WHEN SOMEBODY ASKS TO GET SUBSTANCE ABUSE HELP THERE'S SOME AVAILABLE BECAUSE WE KNOW THE WINDOW OF TIME IS VERY SHORT AND ONE DAY LATER THEY MAY NOT WANT TO GET THE HELP ANYMORE. I THINK THE BIGGEST THING TO REMEMBER IS THE MAYOR DID DEVELOP THE METRO CRIME INITIATIVE AND THIS IS BRINGING ALL THE STAKEHOLDARDS TOGETHER AND WORKING TOGETHER TO GET ANSWERS TO SOME OF THE PROBLEMS. THANK YOU. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: ALSO, WHAT I'M LOOKING AT TOO IS EVEN THOUGH METRO CRIME INITIATIVE IS OUT THERE, WHAT IS THE SPECIFICS OF METRO CRIME INITIATIVE? WHAT DOES IT EXACTLY DO? WHAT WILL THE MATRIX BE IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE THERE'S ACCOUNTABILITY IN REFERENCE TO THE METRO CRIME INITIATIVE? IF YOU CAN GIVE ME A WHOLE BREAKDOWN AS TO WHAT YOU'RE TAKING OWNERSHIP OF IN REFERENCE TO THE METRO CRIME INITIATIVE. I WOULD APPRECIATE IT. THERE'S A LOT OF POINTS I CAN THINK OF THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED IN REFERENCE TO THAT. WHAT SPECIFICALLY ARE YOU AS A POLICE CHIEF GOING TO BE DOING IN REFERENCE TO THE METRO CRIME INITIATIVE? AND HOW DO WE HAVE THE ACCOUNTABILITY TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU ARE GETTING IT DONE AND COMPLETING WHAT YOU SAID YOU NEEDED TO DO? >> COUNCILOR BENTON, COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, THE FIRST METRO CRIME INITIATIVE CONCLUDED LAST YEAR. I WILL ENSURE YOUR EMAILED THE 40 POINTS THE ADMINISTRATION WANTED TO COMPLETE WITH THE FIRST METRO CRIME INITIATIVE. WE DID LEGISLATIVELY GO AND WE MAY TAKE ABOUT HOW WE'RE GOING TO HOLD THE CHIEF ACCOUNTABLE FOR THE METRO CRIME INITIATIVE AND WHAT HAS GOTTEN DONE. QUITE HONESTLY, YOU CAN'T. NOT EVERYTHING IS WITHIN THE CHIEF'S POWER. LAST YEAR, I TRIED TO REVAMP AND I WENT TO THE LEGISLATURE AND ASKED THAT WE MAKE CHANGES TO THE PRE-DETENTION HEARING PROCESS. THE STATE LEGISLATURE DIDN'T PROCESS -- PASS IT. THAT IS NOT THE CHIEF'S FAULT, THAT IS NOT THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE'S FAULT. WE NEED ASSISTANCE FROM THE LEGISLATURE TO PASS THIS FORWARD. I THINK VIOLENT PEOPLE NEED TO STAY IN JAIL. IN ORDER FOR THAT TO HAPPEN I NEED TO HAVE THE RESOURCES TO SEND SOMEBODY TO SUBSTANCE ABUSE. ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE GOING TO ASK FOR IS WE'RE GOING TO ASK FOR SOME UPDATES. WE'RE GOING TO ASK THE LLC TO TAKE A LOOK AT CRIMINAL SYSTEM AS A WHOLE. THAT IS A LETTER THAT WE'RE WORKING TO DEVELOP IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS. I WANT TO KNOW, DOES THE PUBLIC DEFENDER'S OFFICE HAVE ALL THE RESOURCES IT NEEDS. DOES DISTRICT COURT HAVE ALL THE RESOURCES IT NEEDS. DOES THE D.A.'S OFFICE. WE NEED A COMPREHENSIVE REPORT. THAT'S WHERE IT STARTS. WHERE ARE THERE GAPS IN THE PROCESSES. BUT THEY'RE NOT JUST CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE PROCESSES. TIME AND TIME AGAIN I HEAR WHAT IS THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE GOING TO DO, MY BIGGEST STRUGGLES AREN'T WHAT THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE IS GOING TO DO. I HAVE A LOT OF CONFIDENCE IN OUR ABILITY TO GET THINGS TO COUNCIL. I THINK THERE'S NINE COUNCILORS IN THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE RIGHT NOW THAT WANT TO LOWER CRIME. YOU TELL ME WHAT LAW YOU CAN SUPERSEDE FROM THE STATE AND PASS THAT WILL ENABLE US TO GO OVER SOME OF OUR OBSTACLES. THERE'S NONE. COUNCIL DOES NOT HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO DO THAT. WE HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER. WE HAVE TO ADVOCATE THE STATE LEGISLATURE TO COME. WE NEED ALL PARTIES TO PARTICIPATE. AND THAT'S WHAT THE METRO CRIME INITIATIVE HAS BEEN DOING AND WE'LL GET THAT DONE AND SENT TO YOU TODAY OR TOMORROW. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE 40 POINTS ASK THIS METRO CRIME INITIATIVE STARTED LAST YEAR, WE HAVE NOT SEEN ANY DIFFERENCE OR CHANGE IN THE HOMICIDES. WE ACTUALLY GREW IN HOPICIDES -- HOMICIDES AND LESS OFFICERS. SO IN MY OPINION, THE METRO CRIME INITIATIVE HAS NOT SHOWN SIGNS OF SUCCESS. SO, THAT'S MY POINT. HOPEFULLY, IF YOU CAN START PUTTING SOMETHING TOGETHER THAT SHOWS SIGNS OF SUCCESS, AND GIVE ME AND THE REST OF THE COUNCIL YOUR ACCOUNTABILITY MATRIX, AND HOLD YOURSELF ACCOUNTABLE, THEN WE'LL SEE HOW WE GO FROM THERE. PAUSE -- BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THE CITY IS SUFFERING. THE CITY IS SUFFERING. YOU'RE AT THE HELM OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. IT'S YOUR RESPONSIBILITY TO MAKE SURE THAT THE ISSUES THAT WE'RE SEEING WITH THE CRIME IN ALBUQUERQUE GETS TAKEN CARE OF AND REDUCED. THAT'S WHAT THE CHIEF DOES. THE CHIEF'S JOB IS TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU LOWER THE CRIME AND RAISE THE OFFICERS. AND THE POPULATION OF OFFICERS. THAT'S THE PRIMARY GOAL OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. THE BACKBONE OF THE AGENCY IS FIELD SERVICES BUREAU. THAT'S WHERE WE NEED THE OFFICERS. BY THE WAY DID YOU GET ME THAT NUMBER YET? >> COUNCILOR BENTON, COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, I'LL CHECK TO SEE IF DISPATCH MAILED IT TO YOU. I BELIEVE THEY TOLD ME IF THEY WERE CONNECT THERE IS 20 UNITS WORKING THE SOUTHWEST AND NORTHWEST AS OF 17:32. ONE OF THE THINGS TO THINK ABOUT WITH THIS ADMINISTRATION AND WITH THIS MAYOR, CRIMES AGAINST A PERSON. 2018. 7,634. CRIMES AGAINST A PERSON 2022, THOSE ARE YEAR TO DATE NUMBERS, 6,053. THERE'S A BIG IMPROVE AGAINST CRIMES GAENS PERSON. WE CAN HAVE A BRIEFING AT ANY TIME AND TALK ABOUT WHAT OUR TRUE CRIME STATISTICS ARE. I DON'T KNOW HOW TO DRILL IT INTO THE COMMUNITY MORE, CRIME IS DOWN FROM 2018. AND WE HAVE THE NUMBERS TO SHOW IT. WHENEVER YOU'RE READY TO SIT DOWN AND TALK ABOUT IT, LET ME KNOW. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THE HOMICIDE RATE IS STILL AT THE HIGHEST IT'S EVER BEEN IN THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BENTON: THANKS. OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE ADMINISTRATION? IF YOU'RE NOT SEEING ME ACKNOWLEDGE, JUST WAVE. I'M HAVING HARD TIME WITH THE INTERFACE. IF THERE'S NO OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE ADMINISTRATION WE'LL MOVE TO COMMUNICATIONS AND INTRODUCTIONS. ARE THERE ANY CHANGES TO THE LETTER OF INTRODUCTION? I MOVE THE RULES BE SUSPENDED FOR THE PURPOSE OF PULLING EC165 OUT OF GOVERNMENT OPERATIONS COMMITTEE AND PLACING IT ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA. IT'S AUTHORIATION TO SUPPLEMENT A PROFESSIONAL TECHNICAL AGREEMENT WITH ENGENDER INCORPORATED TO PROVIDE SUBSTANCE ABUSE TREATMENT. THIS REQUIRES TWO-THIRDS VOTE ON THE RULES SUSPENSION. I SEE A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR BASSAN. THANK YOU. PLEASE CALL THE VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >> THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU. I NEGLECTED TO DO THE APPROVAL OF THE JOURNAL. COUNCILOR LEWIS. >>COUN. LEWIS: MR. PRESIDENT I MOVE APPROVAL OF THE NOVEMBER 21st JOURNAL. >>COUN. BENTON: THERE'S A MOTION AND SECOND FROM COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. GO TO A VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >> THAT'S UNANIMOUS. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU. BACK TO COMMUNICATIONS AND INTRODUCTIONS. I MOVE THE RULES BE SUSPENDED FOR PURPOSE OF PULLING EC187 OUT OF FGO AND PLACING IT ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA. IT'S THE APPROVING OF AGREEMENT OF JARAMILLO TO PROVIDE LEGISLATIVE AND LOBBYING SERVICES AT THE SESSION. COUNCILOR BASSAN IS A SECOND. THANK YOU. WE'LL GO TO A VOTE. THIS IS A TWO-THIRDS MAJORITY REQUIRED. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU. I MOVE THE RULES SUSPENDED FOR PULLING EC195 OUT OF FGO AND PLACING IT ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA. IT'S A LEASE AGREEMENT BETWEEN FIRST CHOICE COMMUNITY HEALTH CARE AND THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE AT 6900 GONE ZAUL -- GONZALEZ ROAD SOUTHWEST. SECOND FROM COUNCILOR BASSAN. WE'LL GO TO A VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU. I MOVE THE RULES BE SUSPENDED FOR PULLING R87 OUT OF FGO AND PLACING IT ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA. IT'S APPROVING AN AWARD FOR THE U.S. DEPARTMENT FOR OF HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT FOR CARES ACT FUNDING AND AN AWARD FOR THE STATE OF NEW MEXICO BEGINNING IN FISCAL YEAR 2023. THANK YOU, COUNCILOR BASSAN. WE'LL GO TO A VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >> THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO PULL EC177 OUT OF FGO AND PLACE IT ON JANUARY 4. IT'S APPROVAL OF THE ROUTE 66 FLATS DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT FOR RENTAL HOUSING TO UTILIZE WERE FRS TRUST FUNDS FOR CONSTRUCTION OF NEW SUPPORTIVE HOUSING PROJECT. THIS REQUIRES A SIMPLE MAJORITY. A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. THANK YOU. MOVE TO A VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU. I MOVE TO PULL EC178 OUT OF FGO AND PLACE IT ON THE JANUARY 4th AGENDA FOR ACTION. IT'S APPROVAL OF THE LANDING COURT 60th STREET AGREEMENT WITH THE ALBUQUERQUING AUTHORITY TO UTILIZE TRUST FUND TOWARD REHABILITATION AND CONSTRUCTION OF A PUBLIC HOUSING PROJECT. AND IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND FROM COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. THIS IS SIMPLE MAJORITY TO MOVE THIS TO THE 4th. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. BENTON: COUNCILOR DAVIS. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I MAKE A MOTION TO PULL O-58 OUT OF FGO AND PLACE IT ON JANUARY 4th FOR ACTION. IT INVOLVES MODULAR FUELLING CAPSULES AND OTHER THINGS THAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND AND REPEAL THE ACTIONS INCONSISTENT WITH THIS ORDINANCE. >>COUN. BENTON: SECOND FROM COUNCILOR BASSAN. WE'LL GO TO A VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: NO. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: NO. >> PASSES ON A 7-2 VOTE. >>COUN. BENTON: I MOVE THE RULES BE SUSPENDED FOR PLACING EC17 ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA. IT'S APPROVING WITH THOMPSON CONSULTING TO PROVIDE LEGISLATIVE AND LOBBYING SERVICES FOR THE CITY. THIS IS A VOTE ON A RULES SUSPENSION REQUIRING TWO-THIRDS. SECOND FROM COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. THANK YOU. MOVE TO A VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >> THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. BENTON: I MOVE THE RULES SUSPENDED FOR PLACING EC200 FOR SUPPLEMENT OF THE LEAST BETWEEN THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE AND UNITED STATES AIR FORCE. THIS IS A RULES SUSPENSION REQUIRING TWO-THIRDS VOTE. SECOND FROM COUNCILOR BASSAN. WE'LL GO TO A VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. BENTON: I MOVE THE RULES BE SUSPENDED FOR PLACING EC198 ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA. IT'S THE MAYORS RECOMMENDATION OF DAVID CAMPBELL ATTORNEY ADD LAW FOR DEVELOPMENT HEARING OFFICER. THERE'S A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. THIS IS REQUIRES TWO-THIRDS VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. BENTON: COUNCILOR PEÑA, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, I MOVE THE RULES BE SUSPENDED FOR PLACING R-89 ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA. IT'S ESTABLISHING LEGISLATIVE AND BUDGET PRIORITY FOR THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE FOR THE FIRST SESSION OF THE 56th NEW MEXICO STATE LEGISLATURE. >>COUN. BENTON: THERE'S A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. PLEASE CALL THE VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >> THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. BENTON: COUNCILOR PEÑA, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: MR. PRESIDENT, I MOVE THAT THE RULES BE SUSPENDED FOR THE PURPOSE OF INTRODUCING R-90 AND PLAING ON THE JANUARY 4th. >>COUN. BENTON: THERE'S SECOND FROM COUNCILOR BASSAN. GO TO A VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. BENTON: COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION ABOUT THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM. R-91. WE JUST MOVED A WHOLE BUNCH OF ITEMS OFF OF FGO ON TO TONIGHT'S AGENDA OR JANUARY'S. THIS IS THE ONLY AGENDA ITEM TO PUT ON FGO? I DON'T WANT TO NECESSARILY PUT US IN A BIND WHERE WE CAN PUT IT IN JANUARY? WE'RE GOOD. I SEE COUNCILOR DAVIS SHAKING HIS HEAD. >>COUN. DAVIS: I'LL DEFER TO THE CLERK. I THINK WE HAD OVER 20 ITEMS. I THINK WE ONLY REMOVED LESS THAN TEN. WE STILL HAVE AN AGENDA. I THINK THIS IS TAKES CARE OF THE BIG TICKET ITEMS. BUT WE NEED TO BE READY FOR THE JANUARY MEETS OF THE COUNCIL SINCE ANYTHING WE DO IN JANUARY WILL COME TO US IN FEBRUARY. WE'LL TALK WITH THE CLERK TO SEE IF THERE'S A NEED FOR TAT MEETING. IF WE DON'T NEED TO HAVE A MEETING, I PROMISE WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE IT. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION. SO, WITH THAT, I MOVE THE RULES BE SUSPENDED FOR THE PURPOSE OF INTRODUCING R-91 AND REFERRING THE FINANCE AND OPERATIONS COMMITTEE. IT'S ADJUSTING FISCAL YEAR 2022 APPROPRIATIONS FOR CERTAIN FERNEDS AND PROGRAMS TO PROVIDE EXPENDITURES. ADJUSTING 2023 OPERATING APPROPRIATIONS AND APPROPRIATING CAPITAL FUNDS. >>COUN. BENTON: YOU HAVE SECOND FROM COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. THIS REQUIRES A TWO-THIRDS VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >> THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. MR. PRESIDENT, WE'LL NEED A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE LETTER AS AMENDED. >>COUN. BENTON: OKAY, SO, I'LL MOVE ACCEPTANCE OF THE LETTER OF INTRODUCTION AS AMENDED. IS THAT CORRECT? SECOND FROM COUNCILOR BASSAN. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? LET'S MOVE TO THE VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >> THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. BENTON: WE HAVE NO REPORTS FROM COMMITTEES. WE'LL MOVE TO A DEFERRAL AND WITHDRAWALS. ANY DEFERRALS OR WITHDRAWALS AT THIS TIME? STARTING WITH DEFERRALS FROM FINAL ACTIONS. COUNCILOR PEÑA. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. R-78 TRANSINGING SYSTEM SECURITY INCIDENT RESPONSE TACTICAL QUARTERLY REPORTING OF SECURITY CALLS FOR IN SERVICE IN THE TRANSIT SYSTEM AND THE DEVELOPMENT OF A LONG-TERM SECURITY PLAN FOR THE OPERATIONS AND FACILITIES OF THE ALBUQUERQUE DEPARTMENT I MOVE A DEFERRAL TO JANUARY 4th. >>COUN. BENTON: WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR BASSAN. GO TO A VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. BENTON: WE NOW MOVE TO OUR CONSENT AGENDA. ANY CHANGES TO THE CONSENT AGENDA? I DON'T SEE ANY HANDS JUMPING FORWARD. WE WILL THANK THE INDIVIDUALS ON TONIGHT'S CONSENT AGENDA WHO ARE BEING APPOINTED TO SERVE ON THE BOARD OR COMMISSIONS. WE APPRECIATE YOUR WILLINGNESS TO SERVE THE CITY. COUNCILOR LEWIS. >>COUN. LEWIS: I MOVE APPROVAL. >>COUN. BENTON: THERE'S A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT AGENDA. AND A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR GROUT. WE'LL GO A VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. SGLS. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU. WE NOW HAVE OUR ANNOUNCEMENTS. COUNCILOR DAVIS. >>COUN. DAVIS: MR. PRZ PRESIDENT THERE'S AN FGO MONDAY DECEMBER 12 AT 5 P.M. VIA ZOOM. >>COUN. BENTON: COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. THERE WILL BE A PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE MEETING ON TUESDAY DECEMBER 13th AT 5 P.M. VIA ZOOM VIDEO CONFERENCE. >>COUN. JONES: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. THE LAND USE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMITTEE MEETING SCHEDULED FOR WEDNESDAY DECEMBER 14th IS CANCELED. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU. AND THE COUNCIL MEETING FOR SCHEDULED FOR DECEMBER 19th IS CANCELED. WE'LL GO TO DECEMBER WE HAVE NO PUBLIC HEARING. WE'LL MOVE TO PROVALS. STARTING WITH ITEM A. EC615 AUTHORIZATION TO SUPPLEMENT PROFESSIONAL TECH AGREEMENT TO PROVIDE SUBSTANCE ABUSE TREATMENT. I MOVE APPROVAL. SECOND FROM COUNCILOR BASSAN. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? >> NO, THERE IS NOT. >>COUN. BENTON: ALL RIGHT. WE'LL GO TO -- IF THERE'S NO FURTHER QUESTION, WE'LL GO TO A VOTE ON THE SUBSTANCE ABUSE TREATMENT CONTRACT. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >> THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. BENTON: NEXT IS EC187 APPROVING AN AGREEMENT WITH JARAMILLO LAW FIRM. I MOVE APPROVAL. SECOND FROM COUNCILOR BASSAN. AND THERE'S NO COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS OR ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. WE'LL GO TO A VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. BENTON: NEXT IS EC195. THIS IS THE FIRST CHOICE COMMUNITY HEALTH CARE OF THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE AT 690 GONZALEZ ROAD SOUTHWEST. I MOVE APPROVAL. SECOND FROM COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. THANK YOU. WE'LL GO TO A VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >> THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. BENTON: NEXT IS EC197 APPROVING THE AGREEMENT WITH THOMPSON CONSULTING TO PROVIDE LEGISLATIVE AND LOBBYING SERVICES FOR THE CITY. I MOVE APPROVAL. SECOND FROM COUNCILOR BASSAN. THANK YOU. -- COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. THANK YOU. WE'LL GO TO A VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. BENTON: NEXT IS EC198 THE MAYOR'S RECOMMENDATION OF AWARD TO DAVID CAMPBELL FOR DEVELOPMENT HEARING OFFICER. I MOVE APPROVAL. I SEE A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR GROUT. THANK YOU. AND I SEE MR. CAMPBELL AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT ANY OF YOU COUNCILORS MAY HAVE. AS WE ALWAYS USED TO SAY, MR. CAMPBELL OF 6500 UPTOWN BOULEVARD. I REMEMBER THAT DISTINCTLY BACK IN THE DAY. ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY FOR MR. CAMPBELL. I HAVE NO QUALMS ABOUT THIS APPOINTMENT. I WANT TO ASK PERHAPS IT'S IN R-91 DO WE HAVE AN IDENTIFIED FUNDING SOURCE? SINCE I BELIEVE THERE'S GOING TO BE ABOUT $80,000 DUE BY THE END OF THIS YEAR. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR BASSAN, THE DOCUMENTATION THAT CAME DOWN WITH THE EC DID INDICATE THERE WAS NOT CURRENTLY BUDGET ALLOCATED FOR THIS POSITION FOR THE REST OF THIS FISCAL YEAR OR TWO FSCAL YEARS. IF DIRECTOR VARELA IS IN THE CONFERENCE ROOM HE MIGHT BE ABLE TO SPEAK TO HOW THEY FUND THIS CONTRACT IN THE NEAR-TERM. >> YES, THANK YOU. COUNCILOR BENTON, COUNCILOR BASSAN, THAT IS A GREAT QUESTION. AS YOU KNOW, THE AMENDMENT TO THE IDO WHICH TAKES EFFECT ON 12-25 OF THIS YEAR WAS PASSED IN JULY. IT WAS WELL-AFTER THE BUDGET FOR THIS YEAR. THIS WAS AN UNFUNDED, BUT WELL SUPPORTED, WE THINK FROM A TACTICAL STANDPOINT AMENDMENT PROPOSED BY CITY COUNCIL. AND SO, AT THIS POINT IT LOOKS LIKE WE WILL HAVE TO SHUFFLE FUNDS AROUND AND PERHAPS USE VACANCY SAVINGS IN ORDER TO COVER SOME MONEY UNLESS THERE'S AN APPROPRIATION FROM COUNCIL TO HELP US COVER THE REMAINDER OF THIS YEAR. THE NEXT SEVERAL MONTHS WILL BE AN EXPERIMENT TO DETERMINE WHAT THE ACTUAL COSTS ARE. WE'RE CONSERVATIVE ON THE HIGH SIDE. WE PROBABLY WERE OVERLY AGGRESSIVE IN COMING UP WITH THAT NUMBER BECAUSE WE WERE LOOKING AT THE FORMER CASELOAD THAT THE DRB USED TO HANDLE. THE CASE LOAD FOR THE DEVELOPMENT HEARING OFFICER IS GOING TO BE QUITE A BIT SMALLER BECAUSE THE AMENDMENT ALSO TO THE IDO NARROWED THE SCOPE OF WORK THE HEARING OFFICER IS GOING TO HEAR. WE'RE CONFIDENT THAT THE -- EXPENDITURES WILL PROVE LESS. AT THIS POINT WE DON'T HAVE EXACT NUMBERS AND THIS DID NOT COME WITH FUNDING. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU FOR THAT. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU REALLY WANT ONE OF THE COUNCILORS TO COME IN AND FIGURE OUT WHERE THAT FUNDING IS GOING TO COME FROM. AT THE SAME TIME, MR. CAMPBELL, I'M SURE THE VACANCY SAVINGICIZE SOMEWHERE WE CAN START WITH. WAY TO TAKE A LEAP OF FAITH OF SHUFFLING THE FUNDS. I KNOW WE'LL PROBABLY ABLE TO PULL IT OFF. IT IS SOMETHING THAT I LOOK FORWARD TO US DOING SOONER THAN LATER. I'M SURE WE ALL AGREE. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANKS, MR. PRESIDENT. I ECHO COUNCILOR BASSAN'S CONCERNS. I MIGHT ASK OUR STAFF AND DIRECTOR BARELA AND GET TOGETHER AND LOOK FOR CLEAN UP TO MAKE A RESOLUTION FOR THE APPROPRIATION TO GET US TO THE END OF THE YEAR. LET'S NOT SHORT CHANGE SOME OF THE OTHER PLANNING. WE HAVE BIG VACANCIES OVER THERE. AND PROBABLY HAVE SOME SAVINGS. WE NEED TO FILL THOSE POSITIONS. I HOPE OUR STAFF CAN HELP US. MR. PRESIDENT, I KNOW MR. CAMPBELL HAS AN ANSWER FOR THIS. I'LL PUT HIM ON THE SPOT. HE'S DONE REALLY GREAT WORK AS MESA DEL SOL OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS AND A LOT OF THAT WORK HAS BEEN AROUND DEVELOPMENT WHERE HE KNOWS ABOUT GETTING AROUND CITY HALL AND SUBDIVISIONS. MR. CAMPBELL, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT IF THE DEVELOPMENT THAT YOU HAD A PRIOR ENGAGEMENT WITH YOU HAVE A PROCESS TO RECUSE YOURSELF AND FIND SOME OTHER HEARING OFFICER FOR THOSE? I DON'T KNOW THERE ARE ANY MORE PENDING, I KNOW YOU'RE INVOLVED WITH SEVERAL THAT MAY COME BACK TO US. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR DAVIS YES. IN FACT, THIS PROPOSAL THAT WAS MADE THAT WAS RECOMMENDED TO YOU INCLUDES NOT ONLY MYSELF BUT ENGINEER RON BOHANEN. WE'RE PROPOSING TO BE DUAL HEARING OFFICERS TO AVOID ANY CONFLICTS BETWEEN THE TWO OF US. AND SO, THERE WILL BE TIMES THAT MR. BOHANNEN WILL HANDLE THE HEARING BUT WE PROPOSED THIS AS A DUO. I BELIEVE HE'S ON. I DON'T SEE HIM ON THE SCREEN BUT I KNOW HE'S IN ATTENDANCE. >>COUN. DAVIS: MR. PRESIDENT, THAT'S NOT REQUIRED. I JUST WANTED TO GET IT ON THE RECORD. I KNOW MR. CAMPBELL HAD AN ANSWER AND PUT IT UP FRONT SO THERE'S NO MISCOMMUNICATION. I FULLY SUPPORT THIS. I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA. I HOPE WE'LL COME BACK AND CONTINUE TO FUND THIS. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS FOR THEM? OR GIVE HIM A CHANCE TO SPEAK IF HE WOULD LIKE. >> MR. PRESIDENT, THANK YOU. WE THOUGHT THIS THROUGH PRETTY WELL. WE'VE WORKED WITH STAFF ON THE PROTOCOL ANDRULES MOVING FORWARD. WE THINK WE CAN CONTRIBUTE BACK TO THE COMMUNITY THAT'S BEEN SO GRACIOUS TO PROVIDE US EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES FOR OUR LIVES. WE HOPE TO RETURN THE FAVOR TO THE CITY. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTION OR COMMENTS? THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR APPROVAL OF EC198. ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? I SEE KZ -- COUNCILOR SANCHEZ MAY HAVE HIS HAND RAISED. DID YOU HAVE YOUR HAND RAISED? ALL RIGHT. AND YOU, COUNCILOR GROUT. THE FOLKS ACROSS THE TOP OF MY SCREEN I CAN'T SEE YOUR HANDS. WE'LL GO TO A VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT IS EC200 SUPPLEMENT BETWEEN THE LEASE OF THE CITY AND UNITED STATES AIR FORCE. I MOVE APPROVAL. AND COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, THANKS FOR THE SECOND. THERE ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS? >> NO. ANY QUESTIONS, COUNCILOR, WITH REGARD TO THIS? THIS IS AN ONGOING LEASE BETWEEN THE CITY AND USAF. FOR USE OF THE RUNWAYS AT KIRTLAND AND ALBUQUERQUE INTERNATIONAL. I DON'T SEE ANY QUESTIONS. DID I MOVE APPROVAL. I THINK I DID MOVE APPROVAL. IT WAS SECONDED. THANK YOU. WE'LL MOVE TO A VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. BENTON: ALL RIGHT. LET'S SEE. COUNCILORS, IT'S 7:37. WHAT'S YOUR PLEASURE? 20-MINUTE BREAK OR KEEP POUNDING THROUGH? I SEE A THUMBS UP FOR 20-MINUTE BREAK. ARE YOU OKAY WITH THAT? ALL RIGHT. WE'LL RETURN IN ABOUT 20 MINUTES. >>COUN. BENTON: WE'RE BACK FROM OUR BREAK. WE'RE NOW ON FINAL ACTIONS. WE'LL START WITH COUNCILOR BASSAN. O-33. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, O-33 IS AMENDING SECTION 14 THROUGH 16 OF THE IDO TO REMOVE ALL REFERENCES TO SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES. I MOVE A DUE PASS. >>COUN. BENTON: SECOND FROM COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. AND DO WE HAVE FOLKS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? >> MR. PRESIDENT, WE HAVE SEVEN PEOPLE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. >>COUN. BENTON: ALL RIGHT. WHY DON'T WE GET STARTED WITH HEARING OUR PUBLIC COMMENT. >> OUR FIRST SPEAKER IS TINA. FOLLOWED BY KAREN. >> GOOD EVENING -- SHOULD I GO? >>COUN. BENTON: I'M SORRY. AS A REMINDER WE'RE HAVING TO LIMIT OUR COMMENTS TO A MINUTE TONIGHT. THANK YOU. >> I WAS THRILLED LAST FALL WHEN THE COUNCIL APPROVALED THE DEVELOPMENT OF SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES. I'M STUNNED THE COUNCIL WOULD ERASE THE EFFORTS OF MANY RESIDENTS TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN. IN SEPTEMBER I VISITED A SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES SPATE OUT IN COLORADO. IT'S ON ONE END OF A PARKING LOT OWNED BY A CHURCH. IT'S WELL FENCED AND WELL MAINTAINED. THE SITE OPENED LAST JANUARY WITH TENTS AND GRADUALLY INSTALLED HEATING AND COOLING UNIT. A SHOWER TRUCK VISITS. CASE MANAGERS AVAILABLE MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY. AND IT'S STAFFED 24 HOURS. THEY HAVE A FRIENDLY AGREEMENT WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IN THE EVENT CRISIS INTERVENTION IS NEEDED. THERE'S A FENCED PARKING AREA FOR PEOPLE LIVING IN CARS. SINCE OPENING A NUMBER OF RESIDENTS HAVE TRANSITIONED INTO PERMANENT HOUSING. THIS IS AN INSPIRING THING CAN HAPPEN WHEN WE PIVOT TO SOMETHING NEW. SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES IS A COMPOSITIONT AND EFFECTIVE ALTERNATIVE TO SLEEPING IN ENCAMPMENTS. I URGE YOU TO VOTE NO. >> KAREN FOLLOWED BY CARL. >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCILORS. THIS BILL WOULD TOTALLY REVERSE THE DECISIONS YOU HAVE ALREADY MADE. WHY? BECAUSE OF IRATE PUBLIC FEEDBACK THAT WAS AN OVERREACTION. PRIOR TO THAT THE SPONSOR WAS IN AGREEMENT THAT WE NEED A CONTINUUM OF APPROACHES. WITH ALL THE COMPLAINING OF HUMAN WASTE AND -- NEXT TO RESIDENTIAL AREA THAT PROVIDES SANITARY FACILITY AND AN OPERATING WHO MEETS THE STRICT REQUIREMENTS ESTABLISHED BY YOU COUNCILORS. AS TINA MENTIONED IN COLORADO THERE'S A SUCCESSFUL SAFE OUTDOOR SPACE RAN BY SALVATION ARMY. HOW ABOUT A TRIP TO COLORADO TO SEE A SUCCESSFUL SITE BEFORE YOU CONSIDER TAKING THIS STEP TO ELIMINATE SAFE OUTDOOR SPACESES FROM THE IDO. THANK YOU. >> CARL FOLLOWED BY SARAH. CARL FOLLOWED BY SARAH. SARAH FOLLOWED BY ROSEMARY. >> COUNCILOR BENTON, OTHER COUNCILORS, KEEP SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES IN THE IDO. HOMELESSNESS IS ONE OF THE CHIEF COMPLAINTS YOU HEAR ABOUT. ALONG WITH THE LACK OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN THE CITY WHERE SKY ROCKETING RENT PUSH PEOPLE INTO HOMELESSNESS. THE DETERMINATION OF THIS BODY TO INCLUDE SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES IN THE IDO WAS THE CORRECT DECISION. SUCH SPACES PROVIDE A SAFE PLACE TO LEAVE ONE'S BELONGS, MEET SERVICE PROVIDERS, APPLY FOR JOBS AND HOUSING. I HAVE GIVEN DOZENS OF BAGS OF WARM CLOTHING AND BLANKETS TO THE CITY'S COMMUNITY SAFETY GROUP FOR DISTRIBUTION FOR FOLKS LIVING OUTDOORS. AS LONG AS THEY LIVE IN UNSANCTIONED CAMPS THE UNHOUSED ARE SUBJECT TO REGULAR SWEEPS BY THE CITY DESTROYING THE VERY LIFE-SAVING SUPPLIES. AS HUMAN KIND WE MUST BE BOTH HUMAN AND KIND. STOP THE SWEEPS. AND KEEP SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES IN THE IDO. MAKE THIS ONE ALBUQUERQUE FOR ALL. >> ROSE MARY FOLLOWED BY ANDREA. >> COUNCILOR BENTON, COUNCILOR BASSAN, CITY COUNCIL, I'M A RESIDENT OF DISTRICT TWO AND LIVE IN THE NORTH VALLEY OF ALBUQUERQUE. RESOLUTION WHICH WOULD REMOVE ALL REFERENCES TO SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES FROM THE IDO IS NOT ONLY CRUEL BUT INEFFECTIVE IN ADDRESSING THE PROBLEM OF HOMELESSNESS IN ALBUQUERQUE. REMOVING ALL REFERENCES TO SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES IN THE IDO WILL NOT REDUCE THE PROBLEM OF HOMELESSNESS IN OUR CITY. IT WILL SIMPLY REDUCE THE RESOURCES AVAILABLE TO THE CITY AND TO NON-PROFIT ORGANIZATIONS TO PROVIDE ALTERNATIVES TO THE CURRENT GRIM PROCESS OF SWEEPING TEMPORARY SITES OF SHELTER AND HOUNDING UNHOUSED PERSONS FROM ONE SITE TO ANOTHER. REMOVING THE ABILITY OF THE IDO TO INCORPORATE AND REGULATE SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES DOES NOT PROVIDE A VIABLE ALTERNATIVE TO THE MANY TEMPORARY SHELTERS UNHOUSED PERSONS ARE SETTING UP EACH CHOITH TO PROVIDE SOME SHELTER TO THE ELEMENTS. RATHER THIS ACTION WILL ONLY DEFEAT THE PRACTICE OF -- NECESSARY TO HELP UNHOUSED PERSONS OBTAIN SERVICES THAT MIGHT GET THEM OFF THE STREETS. PLEASE VOTE NO ON THIS. >>COUN. BENTON: DO YOU HAVE ANYONE ELSE SIGNED UP? >> I'M ACTUALLY NEXT ON THE LIST. I'M NOT SURE IF YOU WANT TO START THE TIMER. I CAN START. >>COUN. BENTON: JUST A SECOND. WE'RE HAVING A TECHNICAL PROBLEM. HANG WITH US. WE HAVE A TECHNICAL ISSUE. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO TAKE A RES -- RECESS. >> WE'RE BACK ON. SORRY FOR THE INCONVENIENCE. >> OUR LAST ITEM WAS ROSEMARY. >> ROSEMARY BLANCHERED. ANDREA WILL SPEAK NOW. >> THANK YOU. I AM CALLING FOR YOU TO VOTE AGAINST O-22-33. THERE'S A RESOLVING DOOR OF INCARCERATION AND HOMELESSNESS. HOMELESSNESS IS A RISK FACTOR FOR INISATION. OVER 15% OF THOSE IN JAIL WERE HOMELESS AND THE RATE OF 11.3 TIMES HIGHER THAN THE GENERAL ADULT POPULATION. SO, AS YOU KNOW THE COST OF INCARCERATION IS SIGNIFICANT. CLEAN UP COST WILL CONTINUE TO BE EXPENSIVE SINCE THEY'RE LOCATED IN A SPECIFIC AREA. SEVERAL COUNCIL MEETING AGO THE COST TO CLEAN UP CAR NODO PARK WAS $700,000 INCLUDING DEPARTMENT OF SOLID WASTE AND ACS TO REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF DEBRIS. THERE'S ALSO COST OF LAW ENFORCEMENT WHICH WOULD INCREASE DUE TO PATROLLING AND OVERTIME COST WHICH ARE SIGNIFICANT AND THAT $12 MILLION FOR THIS UPCOMING BUDGET. THEY'RE AT A GREATER COST. I INKOURNL -- COURAGE -- THANK YOU FOR THE EXTRA SECONDS. APPRECIATE IT. >> THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT. >>COUN. BENTON: THANKS FOR FOLKS WORKING WITH US ON OUR TIMETABLE. WE'RE BACK ON THE BILL. AND TURN OVER TO COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, I THINK MOST OF US HAVE KNOW WHERE WE STAND AT THIS POINT. HOWEVER I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE TO POINT OUT THAT SINCE THE PASSING OF THIS ORIGINAL ORDINANCE WITH THE SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES TWO HAVE BEEN APPROVED, THERE'S A POTENTIAL FOR THREE MORE. FOR THOSE PEOPLE THAT SAY WE NEED TO TRY SOMETHING IT'S IMPORTANT TO REALIZE WE'RE GOING TO INDEED TRYING SOMETHING. TWO ARE GOING TO HAPPEN AT LEAST MAYBE UP TO FIVE. THIS IS A WAY WE CAN AT THIS POINT TRY SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES AND THEN ALSO LISTEN TO THE COMMUNITY AND REALLY WHAT AN OVERWHELMING OF MAJORITY THAT HAVE CONTINUED TO REACH OUT REQUEST THAT DON'T PROCEED WITH THIS. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU. COUNCILOR LEWIS. >>COUN. LEWIS: MR. PRESIDENT, JUST A COMMENT ABOUT THIS. AFTER ALL THIS TIME, AGAIN, I DON'T THINK ANYTHING HAS CHANGED AS FAR AS WHERE WE STAND ON THIS. ALSO WHAT'S CLEAR IS THE COMMUNITY'S STANCE HASN'T CHANGED EITHER. IN MY DISTRICT, I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION THAT AGREES WITH SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES. I DON'T KNOW KNOW NEIGHBORHOOD COALITION THAT SUPPORTED SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES. IN FACT, THEY'VE ALL BEEN VERY AGAINST IT. ALL OF THESE THAT ARE VERY SUPPORTIVE OF SHELTERS AND PROGRAMS WE PUT TOWARD HOUSING VOUCHERS. THERE'S INCREDIBLE AMOUNT OF SUPPORT FOR THE MASSIVE AMOUNT OF MONEY WE'RE FUNDING DRUG TREATMENT AND ALL OF THE HOMELESS SERVICES THAT WE HAVE IN OUR CITY. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THERE'S WIDESPREAD OPPOSITION TO. THAT REALLY HASN'T CHANGED. SO, CHANNEL 7 DID A REPORT A FEW WEEKS AGO THAT WAS PRETTY EYE-OPENING WHEN IT COMES TO DENVER. IF WE'RE HEADED TOWARD WHERE DENVER IS, THEY HELD THIS UP AS THE BANNER OF WHAT WE WANT TO BE, WE'RE GOING TO BE IN TROUBLE. BECAUSE THERE'S MORE HOMELESSNESS THERE THAN EVER BEFORE. THE CITY OF DENVER SPENT A MASSIVE AMOUNT OF MONEY SPECIFICALLY ON SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES. AND I THINK IT'S BEEN A FAILURE THERE. IN FACT THEY WERE INTERVIEWING PEOPLE AND THE PEOPLE HEARD THAT ALBUQUERQUE MIGHT HAVE A SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES, THERE WAS A LOT OF INTEREST IN THOSE AREAS FOR THEM TO COME TO ALBUQUERQUE AND TAKE ADVANTAGE OF OUR SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES FROM OUT OF STATE. AGAIN, I THINK IT'S VERY CLEAR THAT PEOPLE IN MY DISTRICT, PEOPLE AROUND THE CITY AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND COALITIONS AND GROUPS THAT WE REPRESENT JUST DO NOT SUPPORT THIS. >>COUN. BENTON: COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I'M NOT SURE IF YOU REMEMBER BUT WAY BACK IN JANUARY I ACTUALLY SUGGESTED THAT SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES DIDN'T HAVE ANY BUSINESS BEING IN THE IDO. WE ENDED UP RUNNING INTO ISSUES OVER AND OVER AND OVER IN REFERENCE TO DEALING WITH. AND HERE WE ARE A WHOLE YEAR LATER AND THIS IS AN AMENDMENT THAT I ACTUALLY ASKED FOR WHEN IT WAS IN THE COMMITTEE. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I KNOW AS WELL IS THAT MY CONSTITUENTS AND THE PEOPLE THAT ARE IN MY COMMUNITY DO NOT SUPPORT THE SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES PROJECT. JUST WANTED TO GIVE THAT BIT OF INFORMATION. THANK YOU. LISTENING TO THE VOTERS. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR. ANY OTHER COUNCILORS, WOULD YOU LIKE TO COMMENT? SEEING ANY OTHER HANDS RAISED. PLEASE WAVE AT ME. I DON'T KNOW IF THE ADMINISTRATION WANTS TO SPEAK. I THINK A LOT OF WHAT'S BEEN SAID HAS BEEN SAID. >> THANK YOU, COUNCILOR BENTON. THIS IS CAROL PIERCE, DIRECTOR OF FAMILY AND COMMUNITY SERVICE. I APPRECIATE THE CONVERSATION. I BELIEVE AS WE'VE SAID ALL ALONG THAT SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES WHILE NOT THE ONE SOLUTION FOR HOMELESSNESS IT IS COMPLIMENTED BY ALL THE COUNCIL HAS SUPPORTED FOR HOUSING VOUCHERS, FOR THE SHELTER, FOR GATEWAY, AND IT'S ONE SLICE OF WHAT CAN BE DONE TO REALLY ADDRESS ENCAMPMENTS ON OUR STREET. I'M REALLY GLAD THAT COUNCILOR LEWIS BROUGHT UP THE CHANNEL 7 SPECIAL. I THOUGHT IT WAS A WELL-BALANCED REPORT ON WHAT'S POSSIBLE WITH SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES. AS WELL AS VERY REALISTIC REPORT. I THINK IT'S A SOLUTION THAT WE NEED HERE IN ALBUQUERQUE. I DO KNOW OUR ALBUQUERQUE COMMUNITY IS CONCERNED ABOUT ENCAMPMENTS AND THIS IS ONE SOLUTION THAT CAN HELP BY HAVING SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES AVAILABLE. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BENTON: SEEING NO OTHER HANDS I'LL TURN IT OVER TO COUNCILOR BASSAN TO CLOSE. >>COUN. BASSAN: I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR. WE'LL MOVE TO A VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: NO. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: NO. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. JONES: NO. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: NO. >> THAT PASSES ON A 5-4 VOTE. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU. WE'LL MOVE TO ITEM B. COUNCILOR DAVIS, COUNCILOR PEÑA, AND COUNCILOR BASSAN. O-39. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, O-39 IS A COMMITTEE SUBSTITUTE AMENDING CHAPTER 2 ARTICLE OF THE CODE RELATING TO ELECTIONS AND PETITIONS. I MOVE A DUE PASS. >>COUN. BENTON: THERE'S A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR DAVIS. DID YOU SAY YOU HAVE A COMMITTEE SUB? >>COUN. BASSAN: I'M SORRY, IT WAS ALREADY APPROVED. THE ADMINISTRATION AND MR. WATSON WANTED TO SPEAK ON THIS. THAT WOULD BE GREAT. OTHERWISE, I LEAVE IT UP TO YOU WITH ANY QUESTIONS. >>COUN. BENTON: WE APPRECIATE EVERYONE'S TRYING TO WORK WITH MR. WATSON AND WE CONTINUE TO TWEAK THESE SYSTEMS AND TRY TO MAKE THEM BETTER. I KNOW AEFRN AGREES EVERYONE AGREES WITH THE NEED FOR THAT. DOES THE ADMINISTRATION WANT TO SPEAK? >> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT, FOR SPONSORING THIS BILL WE. WE APPRECIATED WORKING WITH COUNCIL STAFF. IT IS AN IMPORTANT CLEAN UP TO A NUMBER OF PROVISIONS. I STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS. I THINK IT WAS SUMMARIZED IN THE STAFF ANALYSIS. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? SPONSORS TO CLOSE. >>COUN. BASSAN: I WON'T SPEAK NECESSARILY FOR THE OTHER RESPONSES , BUT I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. BENTON: I SEE A THUMBS UP. WE'LL MOVE TO A VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. JONES: NO. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >> THAT PASSES ON AN 8-1 VOTE. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU. MOVE TO ITEM C. SAME SPONSORS. COUNCILOR DAVIS, COUNCILOR PEÑA, COUNCILOR BASSAN. O-40. >>COUN. BASSAN: GO FOR IT, COUNCILOR. >>COUN. DAVIS: YOU DO SUCH A GOOD TIME I DIDN'T WANT TO BREAK THIS UP. MR. PRESIDENT, O-40 IS -- RELATD TO PUBLIC AND CAMPAIGN FINANCING. I MOVE A DUE PASS. >>COUN. BENTON: SECOND FROM COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. DAVIS: THIS RELATES TO PUBLIC FINANCE{THE CODE OF ETHICS CLARIFYING IN SIMP PLYING THE WAY THE BOARD OF ETHICS ADDRESSES COMPLAINTS ABOUT VIOLATIONS AND ALLOWS THEM TO DO AN AUDIT OF SIGNATURES TO GET AHEAD OF SOME OF THE CONCERNS OF THE LAST ELECTION. >>COUN. BENTON: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? MR. WATSON, WOULD YOU LIKE TO COMMENT? >> MR. PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, I'D LIKE TO THANK COUNCIL STAFF FOR WORKING WITH US. THIS IS AN IMPORTANT CLEAN UP. IT DOES A LOT OF IMPROVEMENTS WE WANT TO DO IN THE CHARTER. AND I THINK THESE WILL BE GREAT REVISIONS GOING INTO NEXT CYCLE. >>COUN. BENTON: ALL RIGHT. THANKS. SPONSORS TO CLOSE. >>COUN. DAVIS: FOR PEOPLE RUNNING NEXT TIME, THIS WILL MAKE THIS PROCESS MUCH EASIER ON THEM NEXT TIME, WE ENCOURAGE THEIR OTHER. >>COUN. BENTON: WE'LL GO TO A VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >> THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. BENTON: WE'LL GO TO ITEM D. COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, COUNCILOR PEÑA, AND COUNCILOR BASSAN. O-41. >>COUN. PEÑA: ANYONE WANT TO TAKE IT? >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. THIS IS AMENDING THE INTERGOVERNMENTAL RELATIONS TO UPDATE THE COMMUNITY MEMBERSHIP AND THE COMMITTEE TO CONVENE AND THE COORDINATION RESPONSIBILITY OF THE COMMITTEE AND DEVELOPMENT OF THE FEDERAL AND STATE PRIORITIES RESOLUTION AND REVIEW OF OBLIGATIONS. I MOVE A DUE PASS. >>COUN. BENTON: I SEE A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR BASSAN. I WANT TO THANK THE THREE OF THE SPONSORS FOR THEIR WORK ON THIS COMMITTEE BUT ALSO GETTING THIS UPDATE IN PLACE. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE A FLOOR SUBSTITUTION. IN YOUR iPADS. CAN I MOVE FORWARD? >>COUN. BENTON: YES, PLEASE. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF CLEAN UP. IT ADDS THE WORD PROGRAM TO THE TITLE. IT SETS FORTH RULES FOR ALTERNATIVES FOR OTHER CITY COUNCILLORS TO PARTICIPATE. IT REMOVES THE LIST OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT AGENCY. AND SAYS WE -- AND PROCEDURES FROM ENDING THE STATE AND PRIORITY RESOLUTION AND INSTEAD HAS A JOINT RESOLUTION AND ALSO HAVE INDIVIDUAL COUNCILORS OR THE MAYOR PROPOSE ADDITIONAL PRIORITIES FOR THEMSELVES. IT ADDS REQUIREMENT THAT THE ANNUAL MEMBERSHIP BE SUBMITTED TO THE IGR FOR APPROVAL. I MOVE A DUE PASS FOR THAT FLOOR SUBSTITUTE. >>COUN. BENTON: SECOND FROM COUNCILOR BASSAN. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? WE'LL GO TO A VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >> THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. BENTON: WE'RE BACK ON THE BILL AS SUBSTITUTED. AND ANY DISCUSSION OR -- COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE DEFERRAL AS SUBSTITUTED TO JANUARY 4th. >>COUN. BENTON: THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR DAVIS FOR A DEFERRAL. ANY DISCUSSION ON THE DEFERRAL? WE'LL GO TO A VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >> THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU. NEXT, I. ITEM IS E. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR PEÑA, YOU GO. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. O-45 IS AMENDING THE CODE OF ETHICS RELATED TO FINANCIAL DISCLOSURES OF ELECTED OFFICIALS. I MOVE A DUE PASS. >>COUN. BENTON: SECOND FROM COUNCILOR BASSAN. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? WE'RE POWERING THROUGH THIS STUFF. THIS IS IMPORTANT. THIS IS AN IMPORTANT PIECE OF LEGISLATION. I APPRECIATE THE THREE SPONSORS ON THE CODE OF ETHICS. WE ALL DEALT WITH IT. IF WE RAN FOR OFFICE, WHICH WE ALL HAVE. I'M SURE EVERY SINGLE ONE OF US. >> MR. PRESIDENT. WE DO HAVE ONE PERSON SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? LET'S HEAR FROM THAT PERSON. >> THANK YOU, I'M THE DIRECTOR OF NEW MEXICO STATE ETHICS COMMISSION. I REVIEWED THIS PROPOSED ORDINANCE AND IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE AMERICAN LAW INSTITUTE'S PRINCIPLES OF GOVERNMENT ETHICS. IN MANY WAYS THE PASSAGE OF THIS ORDINANCE WOULD MAKE ALBUQUERQUE A MODEL IN THE AREA OF FINANCIAL DISCLOSURE LAW. NOT ONLY FOR OTHER LOCAL GOVERNMENTS IN NEW MEXICO BUT FOR THE STATE OF NEW MEXICO ITSELF. I WANT TO THANK THE SPONSORS FOR THIS ORDINANCE AND FOR THE ADMINISTRATION FOR YOUR WORK ON IT. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU. AND THANKS FOR STICKING AROUND WITH US. I APPRECIATE YOUR WORK. OTHER DISCUSSION, COUNCILORS? WE DO HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FROM OUR DUE PASS ON O-45. SPONSORS TO CLOSE. >>COUN. PEÑA: I URGE EVERYONE'S SUPPORT BUT I KNOW ETHAN IS ON. WITHOUT HIS HELP AND WORK ON THIS AS WELL. IF YOU WANTED TO SAY ONE LAST THING BEFORE WE CLOSE? >> I THANK ALL THE SPONSORS FOR BRINGING THIS LEGISLATION FORWARD. I THINK THERE'S ROOM FOR OUR CLIS -- DISCLOSURE LAWS TO BE ROBUST. I LOOK FORWARD TO MORE DISCUSSION ON THIS. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU. WITH THAT, I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR PEÑA. WE'LL GO TO A VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >> THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. BENTON: NEXT IS ITEM F. O-46. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. THIS IS REVIEWING CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE CODE OF ORDINANCE, THE RECORDS ANALYSIS AND DISPOSITION COMMITTEE ORDINANCE. REPLACING IT WITH A NEW ORDINANCE AMENDING THE EXISTING OWN RECORDS ORDINANCE SECTION. THE OPEN RECORDS RECORD INSURANCE REPEALING AND MOVE A DUE PASS. >>COUN. BENTON: THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR BASSAN. ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? >> MR. PRESIDENT, WE HAVE ONE PERSON SIGNED UP. THEY'RE NO LONGER WITH US ON ZOOM. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU. AGAIN, MR. WATSON, I KNOW YOU WORKED WITH US ON THIS. I APPRECIATE HIS AND HIS WHOLE OFFICE'S WORK. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A LOT SMOOTHER SITUATION GOING FORWARD. WOULD YOU LIKE TO COMMENT BRIEFLY? >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT, AND COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN FOR ASSISTING WITH THIS ORDINANCE. WE'RE RECEIVING OVER 10,000 YESES FOR PUBLIC RECORDS EVERY YEAR. WE DO HAVE [ INAUDIBLE ]. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION, COUNCILORS? IF NOT, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN TO CLOSE. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I JUST WANT TO SAY THIS IS A REALLY IMPORTANT PIECE OF LEGISLATION FOR ME. I'M A FAN OF THE INSPECTION OF PUBLIC RECORDS ACT. I WANT TO MAINTAIN THOSE REQUEST AND GET THEM TO THE PUBLIC. THIS IS A CLEAN UP AND VERIFICATION NEEDED TO MAKE THAT PROCESS WORK. I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. GO TO A VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU. NOW WE'RE ON ITEM G. COUNCILOR PEÑA, COUNCILOR LEWIS. O-47. >>COUN. PEÑA: WANT TO TAKE THIS, COUNCILOR LEWIS AM. >>COUN. LEWIS: SURE. WE'RE GOING TO DEFER THIS BILL. WE DO HAVE A SUBTHAT WAS SECOND FLOOR SUBSTITUTE. TOM CAN GIVE US A SUMMARY OF THE CHANGES. >> YES. MR. PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, THE FLOOR SUBSTITUTE DOES A NUMBER OF REQUEST TO THE TRANSIT DEPARTMENT AND WHAT WE IDENTIFY AND ALSO REQUEST FROM MR. RAMIREZ FROM THE TRANSIT ADVISORY BOARD. THERE WAS CONCERNS EXPRESSED FOR THE LAST MEETING THAT WE CLEANED UP. IT ADDS THERE WOULD BE AN EQUITY ANALYSIS. THAT'S NOT COMPLETED. HOPEFULLY THAT WILL BE COMPLETED FOLLOWING THE REGULATIONS BY THE END OF THE WEEK. AT THAT POINT WE HOPE TO POST IT FOR PEOPLE TO LOOK AT. THE SECOND ITEM IS IT CLARIFIES IT'S PARATRANSIT WILL BE FREE. ONCE SOMEONE QUALIFIES FOR THE PROCESS IT'S A FREE RIDE. THEY'LL BE ABLE TO USE SUN VAN PASS OR WHATEVER THEY GET. SECOND, IT ALSO GOES AHEAD AND ADDS IN ANY PHOTO GOVERNMENT I.D. CAN BE USED AS A PASS TO GET ON. THAT WOULD INCLUDE DRIVER'S LICENSES OR OTHER TYPES OF PHOTO I. D. IF SOMEBODY CAN'T USE THEIR CAR FOR A COUPLE DAYS JUST USE DRIVER'S LICENSE OR IF THEY'RE FROM OUT OF TOWN THEY CAN USE THE BUS. THE THIRD THING IT DOES IS THE TRANSIT DEPARTMENT ASKS THAT WE INCLUDE IN THE BUDGET THAT AS TIME GOES ON THEY WILL GO AHEAD AND TAKE ALL OF THE VARIOUS EXEMPTIONS, BUT THE VARIOUS PHOTO I.D. TO GET THOSE PEOPLE ONCE THEY NEED IT INTO THEIR OWN PASS CARD. I THINK THIS IS PRIMARILY AS A MARKER TO THE BUDGETING PROCESS. THIS IS SOMETHING THEY'LL HAVE TO WORK TOWARD SO THEY KNOW TO BUDGET IN TO GET THIS TECHNOLOGY GOING. THE NEXT THING IS THAT IT GOES AHEAD AND THE -- PUT IN SECURITY -- FOR THE PART THAT REVAMPS THE TRIP GATHERING OF SECURITY STATISTICS FROM THE TRANSIT SYSTEM. WE GO IN THERE SKWK AND LOOK AT A PEST PRACTICES GET ANOTHER SECURITY PLAN FOR BEST PRACTICE SEARCH AND USE THE ALBUQUERQUE COMMUNITY SAFETY DEPARTMENT'S DEM GRAPHIC. AND THE FINAL POINT IS THIS ALLOWS THE COUNCIL STAFF TO PUT METHODS BY WHICH THEY CAN MAKE BUS STOPS AND TRANSIT STATIONS MORE ACTIVE FOR POSITIVE EVENTS THAT MIGHT MAKE PEOPLE FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE AND REDUCE CRIME. SUCH AS MAYBE HAVING SOME ENTERTAINMENT THERE OR CRIME PREVENTION THROUGH ENVIRONMENTAL DESIGN. JUST SOMETHING TO MAKE IT MORE ACTIVE LIKE THAT. THOSE ARE PRIMARILY THE SUMMARY OF WHAT THE ITEMS ARE. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU. >>COUN. LEWIS: MR. PRESIDENT. WE'LL MOVE THE FLOOR SUB. I'M GOING TO OFFICIALLY MOVE THE FLOOR SUBTO O-47. >>COUN. BENTON: MOTION FOR THE FLOOR SUBSTITUTE. IS THERE A SECOND? >>COUN. PEÑA: SECOND. >>COUN. BENTON: COUNCILOR PEÑA, THANK YOU. ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS SUBSTITUTE? I HAVE TO SAY, I WASN'T A FAN EARLY ON IN THIS LEGISLATION, BUT I MAY STILL NOT BE BUT I APPRECIATE THE EFFORTS OF IMPROVEMENT. >>COUN. LEWIS: MR. PRESIDENT, THIS IS THE REASON FOR THE DEFERRAL AND THE THE FLOOR SUBIS REALLY WHAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING TOGETHER WITH THE DEPARTMENT AND REALLY TAKING INTO ACCOUNT THE CONCERNS OF THE PUBLIC. AND A LOT OF SUPPORT FOR THIS TOO BY THE WAY. NOT FROM LETTERS BUT PEOPLE THAT HAVE RIDDEN PERSONALLY AND CONTACTED US AND SEEN THE NEED FOR THIS. AND PEOPLE THAT RIDE THE BUSES DAILY. SO APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT ON THAT. AND AGAIN, THE DESIRE IS TO HAVE A BILL WITH THE SUBSTITUTES HERE TONIGHT AS WELL AS GETTING THE DEPARTMENT TIME TO COMPLETE THE REQUIRED STUDIES WE AVAILABLE THAT WILL BE GOOD. THAT'S PART OF WHAT WE DO. WE SUGGEST THINGS AND PUT THINGS FORWARD AND IDEAS FORWARD AND PUT THEM OUT THERE AND TRY TO MAKE THEM THE BEST POSSIBLE POLICIES THEY CAN BE. I BELIEVE THIS REFLECTS THAT. >>COUN. BENTON: I SEE COUNCILOR SANCHEZ WITH HIS HAND UP. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I LIKE TO THANK THE SPONSORS FOR WORKING THIS WHOLE BILL. AND YOU CAN TELL THEY PUT A LOT OF WORK IN IT BASED ON THE SIZE. THE ACTUAL SIZE OF THIS BILL. AND INCLUDING THE FLOOR SUBS. IT LOOKS LIKE THEY'VE GONE NO END TO ACTUALLY REACH OUT TO ALL ENTITIES AND GET THE BEST BILL POSSIBLE. I CAN TELL JUST BY THE DEFERRAL THEY'RE STILL NOT DONE. IT'S A REALLY GOOD THING THAT PEOPLE ARE COMING TOGETHER AND FINDING SOLUTIONS TO MAKE IT A GOOD BILL. YOU KNOW, I GO BACK RIDING BUSES MY WHOLE LIFE. MY DAD WAS A CITY BUS DRIVERS. AND I HAVE LOT OF FENDS -- FRIENDS THAT ARE CITY BUS DRIVERS. THERE'S A LOT OF PROTECTIONS FOR CITY BUS DRIVERS. SEEING WHAT THEY GO THROUGH EACH AND EVERY DAY BECAUSE I WAS WITH MY DAD AS WE RODE BUSES UNTIL MY 18th BIRTH DAY. I REMEMBER WHAT THE BUS DRIVERS USED TO GO THROUGH. AND IT'S A VERY, VERY DEMANDING JOB. AND THEIR PAY IS NOT WHERE IT SHOULD BE. AND HOPEFULLY THIS WILL HELP TO ACTUALLY RETAIN THOSE BUS DRIVERS. THANK YOU TO THE SPONSORS FOR PUTTING THIS TOGETHER. >>COUN. BENTON: COUNCILOR PEÑA. >>COUN. PEÑA: BEFORE WE VOTE ON THE FLOOR SUB OR ANYTHING, THERE'S SEVERAL PEOPLE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. SOMEBODY BROUGHT IT TO MY ATTENTION, AND THIS MIGHT BE FOR -- WE ACTUALLY IN THE BILL WHERE IT SAYS FREE FARE, AND WHAT WE CALL CURRENTLY IS ZERO FARE. SHOULD WE MAKE THOSE TECHNICAL CHANGES NOW OR -- I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO ABOUT THAT. >>COUN. BENTON: WE'LL ASK THE STAFF ABOUT THAT. >>COUN. PEÑA: BECAUSE IT IS IN THE TITLE. AND THAT WOULD BE CHANGING THE TITLE AGAIN. >>COUN. BENTON: IF THERE'S ANOTHER CHANGE TO THE TITLE WE MIGHT WANT TO DO IT NOW. >> MR. PRESIDENT, I WOULD ASK MR. -- OF WHETHER OR NOT THAT VERBIAGE CHANGE HAS A DISTINCTION. >> THE VERBIAGE, I GUESS YOU VERIFY YOU HAVE FREE FARE AND ZERO FARE. >>COUN. PEÑA: I WAS SAYING WE HAVE ZERO FARE AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO MAINTAIN IS ZERO FARE AS PART OF ALL THE WORK THAT'S BEING PUT INTO THIS BILL. AND THROUGH THIS NEW LEGISLATION WE HAVE FREE FARE. >> I THINK THAT'S A DISCRETION OF THE SPONSORS. WE HAD ORIGINALLY, AND WHEN WE SCRIBED THE BILL, WE USED FREE FARE BECAUSE AT THE TIME WE FELT ZERO FARE WAS KIND OF -- I WAS LOOKING AT IT WHAT WAS THE CONCEPT. THE CONCEPT WAS YOU WALK ON AND OFF THE BUS WITHOUT ANY PASS REQUIRED. I THINK THE QUESTION IS NOT COPYRIGHTED NOR IS THERE ANY FORMAL DEFINITION. IF THE SPONSORS WANTS TO USE ZERO FARE THERE'S NOTHING STOPPING THEM. THAT WAS THE DECISION WE MADE SCRIBING WHICH WE CAN CHANGE IF IT'S THE COUNCIL'S WILL. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU. I THINK JUST BECAUSE I THINK WE SHOULD MAINTAIN THE WORDS ZERO FARE. I MAKE A MOTION TO MAKE AN AMENDMENT TO THE FLOOR SUB. I DON'T THINK A VOTE IS NEEDED. >> MR. PRESIDENT. I THINK, COUNCILOR PEÑA, YOU'RE PREPARING TO MAKE A CHANGE TO ALL OF THE REFERENCES FROM ZERO FARE TO FREE FARE. >>COUN. PEÑA: OPPOSITE OF WHAT YOU SAID. FROM FREE FARE TO ZERO FARE. >> MR. PRESIDENT, ONCE THE FLOOR SUB IS VOTED ON, COUNCILOR PEÑA CAN MAKE THAT MOTION. >>COUN. BENTON: WE NEED A VOTE ON FLOOR SUB AS IT STANDS. >> MR. PRESIDENT, I MIXED MYSELF UP. THE FLOOR SUB MAY BE AMENDED. IT'S MOVED AND SECONDED. THE FLOOR SUB MAY BE SECONDED. >>COUN. PEÑA: I MAKE A MOTION TO AMEND ALL THE REFERENCES FROM FREE FARE TO ZERO FARE. >>COUN. BENTON: THERE'S A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, I ALSO HAVE A QUESTION. MR. PRESIDENT, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, IT'S O-47 WITH A FLOOR SUB. I ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE BECAUSE COUNCILOR PEÑA IS SAYING, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE TO GO ON THE RECORD THAT I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION IS FREE FARES AND ZERO FARES IS QUITE DIFFERENT. AND THAT'S WHY WE MADE A BIG DEAL OUT OF PASSING A ZERO FARES PROGRAM. COUNCILOR PEÑA, I'M HAPPY YOU'RE DOING THIS CHANGE BECAUSE SHOULD THIS PASS AND SOMEWHERE DOWN THE LINE SOMEBODY SAYS IT'S GREAT IT PASSED BUT WE DON'T HAVE A FREE FARE PROGRAM. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO KEEP THE CONSISTENCY BECAUSE DUE TO THE FEDERAL PROGRAMMING IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT IT'S VERY SIGNIFICANT AND DIFFERENT. THIS WILL BE GOOD AND GAIN MY SUPPORT AS WELL. >>COUN. BENTON: THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR THE MOTION TO AMEND THE FLOOR SUBAS STATED BY COUNCILOR PEÑA. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? BEFORE WE GO TOO FAR, IS ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? >> MR. PRESIDENT, WE HAVE 23 SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. >>COUN. BENTON: OKAY, LET'S GO AHEAD AND DISPENSE WITH THIS AMENDMENT AND GET BACK TO THE FLOOR SUB AND WE'LL HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC. THERE'S A MOTION TO AMEND THE FLOOR SUB. EVERYONE UNDERSTAND THAT CHANGE? WE'LL GO TO A VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: NO. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >> THAT PASSES ON AN 8-1 VOTE. >>COUN. BENTON: WE'RE BACK ON THE FLOOR SUBAS AMENDED. >> IF IT'S ALL RIGHT WITH EVERYONE WE'LL -- DO I SEE A HAND UP? COUNCILOR PEÑA, DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK? >>COUN. PEÑA: I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT WAS AN AMENDMENT TO THE FLOOR SUB FLOOR SUB. IS THAT CORRECT? >>COUN. BENTON: AMENDMENT TO THE SECOND FLOOR SUB BECAUSE THERE'S A PREVIOUS. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. JUST FOR CLARIFICATION. IS THERE ANYTHING WE NEED TO DO WITH THAT MR. MELENDREZ. >> YOU STILL NEED TO VOTE ON THE FLOOR SUB. NOW YOU NEED TO FINALLY VOTE ON THE SECOND FLOOR SUB. AFTER THAT YOU CAN DEFER. IF YOU LIKE TO COMMENT BEFORE, YOU MAY DO THAT AS WELL. >>COUN. BENTON: WHATEVER THE PLEASURE OF THE SPONSORS. >>COUN. PEÑA: I WAS -- IT WAS COUNCILOR BENTON HAD HEAD THIS WAS AN AMENDMENT TO THE FLOOR SUB. I WAS JUST CLARIFYING WE DIDN'T NEED TO DO ANYTHING SINCE IT'S THE AMENDMENT TO THE FLOOR SUB. >> THE MOTION BEFORE FLOOR SUBNUMBER TWO SO THE REL VENT WOULD BE TO FLOOR SUB NUMBER TWO. THE VOTE YOU TAKE IS ON FLOOR SUB TWO AS AMENDED. >>COUN. LEWIS: DO WE NEED TAKE THAT VOTE NOW? >>COUN. BENTON: WE CAN PROCEED WITH THAT, IF YOU LIKE. FOR THE SPONSORS TO DECIDE ON THAT. >>COUN. LEWIS: IT'S MOVED. I'D LIKE TO MOVE IT. >>COUN. BENTON: OKAY, I SEE COUNCILOR SANCHEZ'S HAND UP BEFORE WE VOTE. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I JUST WANT CLARIFICATION. SAYS ON NUMBER FOUR OF THE FLOOR SUB CLARIFIES THAT SUN VAN IS SERVICES FOR ALL PERSONS CLARIFIED TO USE THE SYSTEM. I WANT TO MAKE SURE OUR DISABLED VETERANS ARE ONE OF THE INDIVIDUALS WHO ACTUALLY QUALIFY AND ANYBODY THAT'S DISABLED IN THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE THAT SHOWS IT'S A FREE SERVICE FOR ALL PERSONS QUALIFIED. I WANTED SOMEONE TO GIVE ME INFORMATION ON THAT TO SEE IF THE DISABLED QUALIFY. >>COUN. BENTON: ANYBODY HAVE AN ANSWER TO THAT? I ASSUME DISABLED VETERANS QUALIFY FOR USE OF THE SUN VAN. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, I HOPE WE HAVE SOMEBODY FROM TRANSIT TO ANSWER MORE IN DEPTH. PEOPLE THAT MEET THE ADA QUALIFY FOR THE SUN VAN. UNDER THE BILL ANYONE WITH VETERAN'S YOIK -- IDENTIFICATION OR MILITARY IDENTIFICATION IT ACT AS A PASS. THE MAYOR'S OFFICE HAS THEIR HAND RAISED. >>COUN. BENTON: OKAY. HEAR FROM THE MAYOR'S CONFERENCE ROOM. >> YES, THANK YOU, COUNCILOR BENTON, COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. JUST TO ANSWER THAT, THE QUALIFICATION PROCESS FOR SUN VAN REMAINS THE SAME. WE HAD IN THE FIRST FLOOR SUBSTITUTE FOR WHICH THERE WAS I BELIEVE $2 FARE FOR THE SUN VAN AT THAT TIME. WHEN YOU COME INTO APPLY YOU HAVE TO GIVE ALL THE INFORMATION THAT WOULD QUALIFY YOU FOR FREE PASS. YOU STILL HAVE TO QUALIFY FOR SUN VAN SERVICES FOR AN APPLICATION PROCESS TO BE ABLE TO USE SUN VAN. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU. >>COUN. BENTON: COUNCILOR PEÑA. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. I THOUGHT WE HAD SAID WE WERE GOING TO DO THAT? >> MY APOLOGIES, MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR PEÑA, I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION. I APOLOGIZE. >>COUN. PEÑA: WHEN WE WENT OVER AND MET WITH TRANSIT, TRANSIT HAD REQUESTED THAT WE REMOVE THE PARATRANSIT FROM THE BILL SO THEY CAN MAINTAIN THE SAME REQUIREMENTS. I HAD SAID THAT I DIDN'T -- AND I APOLOGIZE IF I'M NOT LOOKING AT -- >> MADAM CHAIR, YES, GO AHEAD. THE BILL AT THIS POINT -- >>COUN. PEÑA: I SAID THAT I WANTED IT TO BE ZERO FARE BECAUSE TRANSIT STATED THEY WANT PARATRANSIT OUT BECAUSE THEY GET $2 FOR EVERY DOLLAR. WE'RE TALKING ZERO FARES. THIS WOULD BE -- I WANT TO INCLUDE SUN VAN AS WELL. >> COUNCILOR PEÑA, IT WOULD INCLUDE SUN VAN. IT WOULD BE ZERO FARE BUT THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE APPLICATION PROCESS. ONCE THEY DO THAT AND ARE QUALIFIED TO RIDE SUN VAN AT THAT POINT IT WOULD BE A ZERO FARE. >>COUN. PEÑA: CHOICE CHANGE . >>COUN. PEÑA: THIS CHANGE ACTUALLY OCCURRED, I KNOW WE DISCUSSED AT OUR MEETING FOR YOU TO COME UP WITH A MEANS ON HOW TO DO THIS. AND I THINK I DIDN'T -- I HADN'T -- THAT HAD NOT BEEN PASSED BY ME. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR PEÑA, AT THIS POINT IN TIME IF YOU QUALIFY FOR SUN VAN, WHICH YOU'RE DISABLED YOU RIDE FREE. IF YOU DO NOT QUALIFY FOR SUN VAN, THEN WE DON'T KNOW HOW TO DETERMINE HOW YOU WOULD BE DISABLED. WHAT IT IS YOU WOULD THEN QUALIFY FOR THE REGULAR PASS. IN OTHER WORDS, YOU APPLY FOR A PASS AND YOU WOULD SUBMIT YOUR NAME, YOUR AGE AND CONTACT. >>COUN. PEÑA: OKAY. THIS IS KIND OF BUMMER BECAUSE MYSELF AND COUNCILOR LEWIS HAD SAID IT WOULD BE GREAT IF YOU CAN COME UP WITH SOMETHING BEFORE IT GETS SUBMITTED INTO THE BILL WE CAN PASS IT BY US BECAUSE WE WANTED TO SAY ZERO FARES. BECAUSE WHEN PEOPLE ARE TALKING ABOUT BARRIERS FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE DISABILITIES AND THEIR ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO GET ON THE BUS, I MEAN, WHEN YOU HAVE PEOPLE THAT ARE USE PARA TRANSIT THOSE ARE THE SAME CHALLENGES. YOU KNOW, THERE'S THE MOST VULNERABLE. SO, THAT DIDN'T GET PASSES -- PASSED ME. I HAD A COPY OF THE BILL WE AGREED UPON THAT YOU WERE GOING TO COME UP WITH A MEANS ON HOW TO GET THAT ACCOMPLISHED. >> WE HAVE A MEETING WITH TRANSIT. THE MEETING WITH TRANSIT WAS THAT THEY'RE THYING TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO ADDRESS LINKED TRIPS WITH SUN VAN. RIGHT NOW, THEY'RE TRYING TO BEST MANAGE THAT BECAUSE ZERO FARE SOMETIMES GET THREE OR FOUR TRIPS A DAY. TRYING TO FIGURE OUT SOMETHING ON THAT. WHAT WE CAN DO IS WHEN WE MEET WITH THEM WE FIGURE OUT SOME METHOD. AND WE'LL MEET WITH YOU BEFORE THAT TO ADDRESS YOUR CONCERNS THEN. >>COUN. PEÑA: YEAH, WE HAVE WORKED ON. I APOLOGIZE. I APOLOGIZE TO THE OTHER SPONSOR. YOU KNOW, WHEN WE'RE TALKING ZERO FARES, AND WE WANT TO REMOVE ALL THE BARRIERS ESPECIALLY FOR THE MOST VULNERABLE. THE MOST VULNERABLE WOULD BE PEOPLE WHO ARE MOSTLY USING THE PARA-TRANSIT. AND I DON'T WANT, AND I THINK WE HAD DISCUSSED THEY HAVE MEDICAID CARDS AND THEY WOULDN'T HAVE TO GO TO PROVE THEY'RE DISABLED. THEY COULD JUST USE THEIR MEDICAID CARD OR THE LIKE. OR THEIR DISABILITY CARD. THIS IS KIND OF CONTRARY TO EVERYTHING IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT OUR MOST VULNERABLE POPULATIONS. >> MR. PRESIDENT, WE DO HAVE ON THEIR RIGHT NOW IS THEY'RE ABLE TO USE MEDICAID CARD. WE CAN GO AHEAD IF THERE'S ANOTHER TYPE OF DISABLED CARD WE CAN ADD THAT IN. >>COUN. PEÑA: I JUST HEARD FROM TRANSIT THEY HAVE TO FILL OUT THE APPLICATION PROCESS. >> I THINK THAT'S TO USE SUN VAN. WE CAN LOOK AT TALKING ABOUT -- SPONSOR, COUNCILOR PEÑA, WE WOULD HAVE TO GO AND FOR ALBUQUERQUE RIDE THAT YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO BOARD AND LOOK AT THE TYPE OF DISABILITY CARDS FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO BOARD ALBUQUERQUE RIDE. >> IN ORDER TO USE THE SUN VAN SERVICES, IT'S PARA-TRANSIT AND REQUIREMENT THEY HAVE TO FILL OUT AN APPLICATION TO BE CONSIDERED WITHIN THE DISABILITY AND THE PARAMETERS FOR THAT USE OF THE TRANSIT. WE DON'T HAVE A WAY OF GETTING AROUND THAT. ONCE THEY FILL OUT THE APPLICATION IT IS FREE FOR THEM. >>COUN. PEÑA: THIS GOES INTO THE WHOLE ARGUMENT ABOUT ZERO FARES AND NOT HAVING TO DO A PASS OR FILLING OUT AN APPLICATION TO GET A PASS. >>COUN. LEWIS: THEY CURRENTLY DO THAT WITH THE ZERO FARE PILOT PROGRAM. THAT'S GOING TO REMAIN IN PLACE. >>COUN. PEÑA: WHAT'S REMAINING IN PLACE TOO IS THAT WITH THE PARA-TRANSIT THEY'RE SAYING PEOPLE NOW, WHICH I THINK IT'S ASOME IS THEY'RE SAYING PEOPLE ARE USING THE PARA-TRANSIT NOW ARE MAKING MULTIPLE RIDES A DAY SO IT'S COSTING MORE. I HAVE SAID THAT WHAT WE CAN FIGURE OUT THAT IS THE WHOLE THING IS REMOVING BARRIERS TO ACCESS. ANYWAY. I GUESS I SHOULD HAVE NOT HAD -- I SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN THE FORMAL COPY INTRODUCED. I GUESS WE CAN MOVE FORWARD, BUT YEAH, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO FIGURE OUT SOMETHING FOR THAT. BECAUSE IF WE'RE HAVING ISSUES WITH HAVING ZERO FARES AND PEOPLE HAVING TO FILL OUT A PASS IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO GET ON THE BECAUSE THAT'S A BARRIER TO ACCESS, WE'RE SAYING THE MOST VULNERABLE HAVE TO FILL OUT AN APPLICATION TO BE ABLE TO GET ON THE BUS, WITH ZERO FARES. I JUST HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THAT. I UNDERSTAND THE FEDERAL REQUIREMENTS I THINK WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT THAT AND WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. SO, WITH THAT, MR. PRESIDENT, YOU CAN MOVE FORWARD TO PUBLIC COMMENT. >>COUN. BENTON: I THINK WHAT I HEARD FROM AT LEAST ONE OF THE SPONSORS WAS TO VOTE ON THE FLOOR SUB AND HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES, SIR. >>COUN. BENTON: IS THAT ALL RIGHT WITH THE OTHER SPONSORS? LET'S GO AHEAD AND MOVE TO THE VOTE ON THE FLOOR SUB AND WE'LL HEAR THE PUBLIC COMMENTERS. LET'S VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >> THE FLOOR SUB AS AMENDED PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. BENTON: WE'RE BACK ON THE BILL. AS SUBSTITUTED. AND WE'LL GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT. >> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. OUR FIRST SPEAKER IS KAREN FOLLOWED BY CYNTHIA. >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCILORS. THERE ARE SO MANY REASONS TO VOTE AGAINST THIS SUBSTITUTE. AND I THOUGHT THE VOTE ON THIS WAS BEING DEFERRED UNTIL JANUARY 4th NOW I'M CONFUSED ABOUT THAT. ZERO FARES IS WORKING AND SHOULD CONTINUE. OBVIOUSLY IT'S TOO EARLY TO CONCLUDE EVALUATION OF A PILOT PROGRAM THAT HAS SIX MORE MONTHS TO GO. WHEREIN YOUR BILL TO YOU RESTORE THE TWO DOLLAR ONE DAY PASS. I DON'T SEE IT. IF THIS IS PASSES SOMEONE COULD NEED TO TAKE TWO BUSES TO GET TO THE DESTINATION AND TWO BUSES BACK HOME WHICH WOULD BE FOUR DOLLARS FOR ONE TRIP. SO, WITHOUT DATA COLLECTION ALREADY GATHERED WHICH IT HASN'T BEEN AND WITH SIX MONTHS TO GO IN THE PILOT PROGRAM IT'S WAY TOO SOON TO ROLL OUT A WHOLE NEW TRANSIT SYSTEM. I DON'T UNDERSTAND THIS BEING CONSIDERED. I THOUGHT IT WAS BEING DEFERRED UNTIL JANUARY 4th. THANK YOU. >> CYNTHIA FOLLOWED BY BEN. >>COUN. LEWIS: MR. PRESIDENT, BRIEFLY. >>COUN. BENTON: YES, COUNCILOR LEWIS. >>COUN. LEWIS: WE JUST -- JUST TO CLARIFY WE DIDN'T VOTE ON THE BILL, WE VOTED FOR A SUBSTITUTE AND MADE AMENDMENTS. AND WE'RE GOING TO DEFER THE BILL. AND TOM, WE JUST SUBSTITUTED, PART OF THAT WAS WE DID THE $2 PASS? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR LEWIS YES. IT IS. I DID THE SUMMARY THAT WAS ONE I DID OMIT. WHERE -- I APOLOGIZE. >>COUN. LEWIS: WE JUST PASSED IN THIS AMENDMENT AND DID EXACTLY WHAT THE SPEAKER JUST SAID A MOMENT AGO AS FAR AS $2 ALL-DAY PASS. IF YOU DON'T HAVE A FREE PASS. >>COUN. BENTON: LET'S CONTINUE WITH PUBLIC COMMENT. >> CYNTHIA FOLLOWED BY BEN. >> I'M AN ORGANIZER WITH THE PARTY OF SOCIALISM AND LIBERATION. I'M SPEAKING TODAY FOR ZERO FARES TO STAY HOW IT IS. FARES SHOULD BE ZERO FARE. IT SHOULD BE FREE FOR EVERYBODY. THERE SHOULDN'T BE OBSTACLES IN PEOPLE'S WAY TO GET ON THE BUS. ASKING PEOPLE TO GET THE PASSES, AND HOW DO THEY GET TRANSPORTATION TO GET A NEW ONE? YOU WANT THEM TO HAVE IDENTIFICATION? THE STEPS TO GO THROUGH GETTING AN I.D. ARE INSANE. THE THINGS YOU HAVE TO HAVE AVAILABLE TO YOU. YOU TAKE AWAY PEOPLE'S TRANSPORTATION TO GET TO THESE SITES WHERE THESE SERVICES ARE PROVIDED, IT'S RIDICULOUS. FARES SHOULD BE FREE FOR ALL. IT'S A PUBLIC GOOD. AND IT SHOULD BE OFFERED TO EVERYBODY WITHOUT ANY KIND OF RESTRICTIONS WITHOUT ANY BARRIERS TO IT. IT SHOULD JUST BE A PUBLIC GOOD AND A PUBLIC RIGHT. SO EVERYBODY COULD HAVE THE AVAILABILITY TO RIDE THE BUS FOR FREE. AND THE SUN VAN TOO. >> BEN FOLLOWED BY -- [ INAUDIBLE ]. >> HELLO, EVERYONE. AGAIN, I'M A SCHOOL TEACHER AND I WANT TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE ZERO FARE. ONE EXAMPLE OF HOW THIS BENEFITS PEOPLE IN OUR CITY IS FIELD TRIPS. SCHOOL FIELD TRIPS WE OFTEN DON'T HAVE MONEY FOR BUSES. SO THE SCHOOL FIELD TRIPS RELY ON THE CITY BUSES TO GET TO THE ZOO OR TO WHENEVER THE FIELD TRIP IS GOING. WE RELY ON THE ZOE FARE AS WELL. AND ANOTHER THING I WANT TO POINT OUT IS -- NEVER MIND. WE NEED ZERO FARE. THANK YOU. >> JOSE FOLLOWED BY JASON. >> GOOD EVENING, I'M WITH THE PARTY OF SOCIALISM AND LIBERATION. I SPEAK FOR THE FREE BUS FARE PROGRAM. I BENEFITTED LOT FROM USING THE BUS SYSTEM IN ALBUQUERQUE WHEN I WAS YOUNGER. GROWING UP IT'S MULTIHOUSEHOLD. MY MOM ESCAPED THE VIOLENCE DIDN'T HAVE A JOB AND DIDN'T KNOW HOW DO DRIVE. MY DAD WHO IMMIGRATED FROM MEXICO WORKED NIGHTS AT FURRS. HE COULDN'T TAKE ME BECAUSE HE WAS ASLEEP IN THE DAY. MY MOM AND I WOULD GO TO MY THERAPY SESSIONS AND TAKE THE BUS. MY MOM AND I HAVE FOND MEMORIES ABOUT THE TIMES ON THE BUS AND ATTENDING SPEECH THERAPY SESSIONS. AT THE MOMENT TIMES ARE TOUGH FOR FINANCIALLY FOR MANY PEOPLE. ESPECIALLY THOSE WHO RECENTLY IMMIGRATED. THESE PEOPLE SHOULDN'T BE PUNISHED BY MAKING IMPORTANT HEALTH CARE OBLIGATIONS OR OBLIGATIONS TO MAKE IT STAY IN THE COUNTRY. WE -- THEY AFFECT MANY PEOPLE AND REQUIRING I.D. FOR FREE BUS PASSES. MY MOM WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO GET A PASS BECAUSE SHE DIDN'T HAVE A STATE I. D. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU. >> JASON FOLLOWED BY JANS. >> I'M SPEAKING IN FAVOR OF THE ZERO FARE PROGRAM. I THINK ADDING MORE OBSTACLES TO PEOPLE RIDING THE DUS IS DETRIMENTAL TO THE COMMUNITY. THE PEOPLE FACING THEBARRIERS ARE MOST IN NEED. SOME OF THE REASONS LAST TIME YOU SPOKE ABOUT WAS THE INCREASE IN CRIME WHEN WE KNOW THAT'S NEWT TRUE. PEOPLE USING THE BUS AS A GET AWAY, ALSO NOT TRUE. ADDING MORE OBSTACLES IS REALLY GOOD FOR NO ONE. I HOPE YOU RECONSIDER. >> DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER MEMBERS THAT MAY BE SIGNED UP IN THE ROOM WITH YOU? >> YES. WHAT NAMES? >> ANGELINA. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. YEAH, I HEARD THE ARGUMENT THAT THIS I.D. WOULD HELP KEEP IT SAFE AND ESTABLISH A SYSTEM OF RESPECT. WE DO NEED A SYSTEM OF RESPECT ON THE BUS. WE NEED TO PAY THE BUS WORKERS A LOT MORE. WE NEED THE BUSES CLEAN. WE NEED A DIGNIFIED BUS FOR THE PEOPLE OF ALBUQUERQUE. WE NEED IT TO ME SAFE AND ACCESSIBLE. PEOPLE NEED BE ABLE TO HOP ON A BUS THAT SHOWS UP ON TIME AND ON SCHEDULE AND NOT JUST RUNNING ON CENTRAL SO PEOPLE CAN GET TO THEIR JOBS. MAYBE PUT ANOTHER PERSON ON THE BUS. IF THERE'S A SECURITY ISSUE OR IF THERE'S ISSUES KEEPING IT CLEAN. BECAUSE TRANSPORTATION IS A RIGHT. AND ESPECIALLY FOR HOMELESS PEOPLE AND HOMELESS WOMEN, IF THEY WERE TO GET AN I.D. AND ACQUIRE THAT, WHICH IS ALREADY A HUGE OBSTACLE AND A HUGE FEET FOR THESE PEOPLE THAT DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO THESE THINGS HOW EASY WOULD BE IT BE TO GET IT STOLEN? IF THEY'RE IN THE STREETS AND IN A VULNERABLE SITUATION. YEAH, PLEASE DON'T DO A THE I.D. THING. >> JANICE FOLLOWED BY BECKS. >> GOOD EVENING COUNCIL PRESIDENT, CITY COUNCILLORS, I'M HERE TONIGHT REPRESENTING THE EQUITY COUNCIL. I'M LOOKING AT ORDINANCE 22-47 HEALTH EQUITY. HAVING A ZERO FARE PROGRAM HAS BEEN TREMENDOUSLY HELPFUL FOR THE POPULATION. I OFTEN DEAL WITH INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE LOST THEIR IDENTIFICATION CARDS. WHO HAVE LOST THEIR MAIL AND OTHER FORMS OF VERIFICATION AS TO WHO THEY ARE. SO, WE'RE REALLY IN SUPPORT OF HAVING A HOP ON AND VOTE BUS SYSTEM THAT WAS GOT REQUIRE CUMBERSOME PASSES. IDENTIFICATION CARDS OR ANY OTHER BARRIERS TO ACCESS. AND THAT ALLOWS PEOPLE TO TRULY ACCESS THE ZERO FARES PROGRAM THAT WAS INITIATED WITH THIS PILOT WHICH WE HOPE TO SEE CONTINUE ON BEYOND THE LENGTH OF PILOT TERM. >> BECKS FOLLOWED BY ALTHEA. ALTHEA FOLLOWED BY AUSTIN. >> COUNCILOR BENTON, MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL, I FIND IT EXTREMELY MISLEADING TO CALL THIS ZERO FARE. I THINK IT WILL BE DANLING TO OUR TOURISM INDUSTRY AND TELL PEOPLE WE HAVE ZERO FARE AND WORK COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. I'M SURPRISED AND SHOCKED THAT YOU ALL JUST DID THAT SUBSTITUTION. ZERO FARE HAS BEEN A NATIONAL HEADLINE BECAUSE THE D.C. CITY COUNCIL IS EXPECTED TO PASS A PERMANENT ZERO FARE. WE'RE ON THE CUTTING EDGE OF TRANSPORTATION IN ALBUQUERQUE. AND O-22 WOULD DISMANTLE SO MANY OF THE BENEFITS OF ZERO FARE. THE IDEA OF ZERO FARE IS IF YOU GET ON THE BUS YOU GO. NO CHANCES FOR DISCRIMINATION, NO BARRIERS AND PLACING EXTRA RESPONSIBILITIES ON THE BUS DRIVERS. IN A CITY WHERE WE HAVE TERRIBLE SAFETY CONCERNS, THE BUS IS THE SAFEST PLACE IT US. I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT INTRODUCING MORE RISK BY ADDING FARE CONFLICTS AND ADDING BARRIERS. >> AUSTIN FOLLOWED BY ROSEMARY. ROSEMARY FOLLOWED BY -- ACTUALLY THAT IS BACK TO AUSTIN IF HE'S AVAILABLE. >> THANK YOU, COUNCILOR BENTON, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. I THOUGHT FROM WHAT YOU SAID EARLIER IS THIS IS BEING DEFERRED SO COMMENTS WOULD BE TOO. I WAS CLEANING MY KITCHEN WHEN PEOPLE WERE SPEAKING. I'M ASKING YOU TO PLEASE NOT CREATE A PASS SYSTEM FOR FREE PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION ON CITY BUSES. WITH THE SWEEPS TAKING PLACE THOSE BUS PASSES WILL GET SWEPT WITH THE OTHER IDENTITY PAPERS TAKEN FROM UNHOUSED PEOPLE GET TAKEN FROM THEM. THEY ALSO REQUIRE INTERACTIONS AND PROCEDURES THAT WILL STYMIE UNHOUNSED PERSONS AND OTHERS WHO HAVE TROUBLE DEALING WITH BUREAUCRATIC REQUIREMENTS OR GETTING INTO LOCATIONS WHERE THINGS ARE OBTAINED. IT'S OFTEN FAIR PAYING ACTORS WHO CAUSE THE SAFETY ISSUES ON BUSES. THERE'S NO GOOD REASON TO MAKE THE SITUATION OF HOMELESS PEOPLE DISADVANTAGED PEOPLE AND THOSE WITH DISABILITIES AND OTHERS WITH SPECIAL NEEDS ANY MORE DIFFICULT THAN THEY ARE ALREADY. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU. PAT DAVIS HAS HIS HAND UP. >>COUN. DAVIS: I CAN WAIT UNTIL AFTER THE SPEAKERS. >> THAT DOES CONCLUDE PUBLIC COMMENT. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANKS, MR. PRESIDENT. I APPRECIATE IT. WE HEARD A COUPLE SPEAKERS, OUR PSL FRIENDS. I WANTED TO MAKE IT CLEAR. THEY'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. AS PROPOSED TODAY, THIS IS NOT A ZERO FARE PROGRAM. AS WE'VE SEEN THIS BILL IS EVOLING -- I THINK IT'S A VEHICLE, NO PUN INTENDED, FOR LEARNING ABOUT TRANSIT AND THE COMPLICATIONS THAT GO WITH IT. I THINK THE SPONSORS DESERVE TO HAVE THE BILL THEY LIKE. I'M NOT READY TO SUPPORT IT YET. I THINK THERE ARE SOME BARRIERS THAT ARE STILL IN HERE. I THINK IT'S GETTING BETTER. I WANT DO GIVE THE SPONSORS THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT. I WANT TO MAKE THAT CLEAR TO OUR FRIENDS OUT THERE SUPPORTING ZERO FARE. AND THE FULLEST SENSE OF THE WORD THAT THERE ARE A NUMBER OF OTHER BILLS OUT THERE ON THIS. I THINK THEY'RE ALL GOING TO COME TO A HEAD IN THE NEXT FEW MEETINGS. WHETHER THAT'S JANUARY OR DECEMBER. I ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY TO STAY WITH US. IT'S IMPORTANT TO SUPPORT THE SPONSORS AND GET THEM THE BILL THAT THEY WANT. I ENCOURAGE US ALL TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT PROCESS. >>COUN. BENTON: JUST TO BE CLEAR WHEN WE SUBSTITUTE A BILL, IT'S MANDATORY THAT IT BE DEFERRED. THAT'S WHAT'S GOSE ON. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? WE HAVE A BILL SUBSTITUTE AND THE MOTION WOULD BE FOR THE DEFERRAL. >>COUN. LEWIS: SO, I GUESS WE'LL MOVE A DEFERRAL HERE. JUST TO CLARIFY, SOMEBODY MENTIONED ABOUT SCHOOL KIDS GOING ON SCHOOL TRIPS. AND THE SCHOOL HAS TO PAY FOR IT. THAT'S JUST NOT TRUE. THEY CAN USE THEIR SCHOOL I.D.S, AND THERE'S A NUMBER OF -- THAT'S WHY I REALLY ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO REALLY READ THE BILL. I THINK WE'VE INCLUDED JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING THAT HAS COME UP THAT YOU CAN IMAGINE. I THINK IT'S TRULY IS A -- IF YOU WALK WANT TO CALL IT ZERO FARE, IT TRULY IS. AND BY DEFERRING THIS AND TAKING THE TIME ON THIS IT DOES GIVE OTHER COUNCILORS GET A CHANCE TO PUT TOGETHER ANOTHER BILL. BECAUSE OF HOW WE'VE GONE THROUGH THIS PROCESS AND ARRANGE SOMETHING TO GET DONE IT PROVIDES FOR THAT KIND OF SCENARIO AS WELL. CERTAINLY WANT TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO READ IT ALL. READ THE AMENDMENTS AND I'LL MOVE DEFERRAL. NOT SURE HOW LONG. WHAT DO WE RECOMMEND ON THE DEFERRAL? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR LEWIS, ONE MONTH. JANUARY 4th. >>COUN. LEWIS: MR. PRESIDENT WHERE MOVE DEFERRAL TO JANUARY 4th. THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND. >>COUN. BENTON: WE'LL TO A VOTE ON THE DEFERRAL. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >> THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. IT IS POSTPONED TWICE AMENDED TO JANUARY 4th. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU. WE'LL MOVE TO ITEM H. COUNCILOR GROUT, AND MYSELF. COUNCILOR GROUT. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. O-48 IS AMENDING CHAPTER FIVE ARTICLE FIVE OF THE REVISED ORDINANCE OF ALBUQUERQUE. THE PUBLIC PURCHASES ORDINANCE RELATING TO FROM THE COMPETITIVE REQUIREMENT OF THE CODE. I MOVE A DUE PASS. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU. THERE'S A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BENTON: THIS IS EXEMPTING DESTINATION MANAGEMENT ORGANIZATIONS WHICH IS A VISIT ALBUQUERQUE PRIMARY ONE. WE DO HAVE TO PLAN OUT FOR CONVENTIONS AND EVENTS IN ALBUQUERQUE FOR WHAT THEY DO. SO, GOING THROUGH THESE SUPPOSEDLY COMPETITIVE BUT RARELY ANY COMPETITION. IT'S AN EXERCISE THEY'VE HAD TO GO THROUGH EVERY YEAR. I'LL TURN IT OVER TO HER TO EXPLAIN THAT BRIEFLY. THAT'S WHAT THIS IS ABOUT. IT'S GOOD FOR OUR INDUSTRY TO HAVE A LONGER WINDOW. >> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE THIS EVE TOONING ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. WE DO HAVE A COUPLE OF OUR STAKEHOLDERS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. VERY APPRECIATIVE OF THE ADMINISTRATION AND COUNCIL SPONSORS FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO PUT THIS ADJUSTMENT ON THIS LEGISLATION FORWARD. IT GETS OUR DESTINATION BACK TO THE INDUSTRY STANDARD AND THE BEST PRACTICE. I CAN TELL YOU, YOU CAN NAME ANY CITY THAT YOU BELIEVE IS COMPETITOR FOR US AND WHAT I CAN ASSURE IS THEY DO NOT BID FOR THEIR SERVICES. ORGANIZATIONS LIKE OURS WERE BUILT TO PROVIDE THIS TO DO THIS WORK. WE ARE AN ACCREDITED ORGANIZATION. AND THAT IS WHAT YOU WANT, KEEP US FOCUSED ON KEEPING ADDITIONAL ECONOMIC STIMULUS TO THE CITY AND DOING AS MUCH AS WE CAN TO IMPROVE THE ECONOMY. I APPRECIATE THIS OPPORTUNITY AND I'LL STAY PUT TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS. I HAVE ONE SPEAKER MEETING MRARN FROM OUR BOARD FROM THE AMERICAN SOCIETY OF TECHNOLOGY. SHE WAS ON EARLIER BUT SHE HAD TO HAD TO DEPART FOR A CONFLICTING MEETING. I CAN READ HER STATEMENT IN JUST A MOMENT. >>COUN. BENTON: LET'S HEAR FROM THE OTHER SPEAKERS. >> THANK YOU. OUR FIRST SPEAKER IS -- TODD. >> GOOD EVENING, I AM THE DIRECTOR OF OPERATIONS FOR SUN CAPITAL HOTELS. WE OPERATE NINE HOTELS IN NEW MEXICO. WE HAVE OVER 250 HARDWORKING TEAM MEMBERS DELIVERING EXCEPTIONAL SERVICE TO EVERY GUEST THAT VISITS THIS GREAT LAND OF ENCHANTMENT. THANK YOU FOR YOU LOW >> TO COMPETE FOR OUR CONTRACT WITH ALBUQUERQUE. I HAVE MORE TO GO ON. I CAN STOP. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU. >> OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS MICHAEL. >> GOOD EVENING. AND I GUESS -- THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK TO THIS ISSUE. I'M THE PRESIDENT AND CEO OF THE INDIAN PUEBLO CULTURAL CENTER AND CHAIR OF VISIT ALBUQUERQUE. I THINK IT WAS MENTIONED THAT THE NEED FOR WORKING WITH CLIENTS FOR LONG-TERM SELLING CYCLES THAT ARE VERY LONG AND THEY NEED LONG-TERM RELATIONSHIP. PUTTING THIS CONTRACT UP TO BID CAN BE PROBLEMATIC. ORGANIZATIONS THAT MAKE LONG-TERM DECISIONS WANT TO HAVE CONTINUITY IN WHO THEY DEAL WITH. ANOTHER CHALLENGE IS ATTRACTING TALENTED EMPLOYEES. IN THIS INDUSTRY FOR SOME POSITIONS WE HAVE THE NEED TO ATTRACT INDIVIDUALS WITH THE ENROLLMENT EXPERIENCE. THESE INDIVIDUALS WANT TO KNOW THEIR ORGANIZATIONS WILL BE AROUND. IT'S HARD TO KNOW WHEN THE BID IS COMING TO UP TO ATTRACT TALENT. VISIT ALBUQUERQUE CONTINUES TO REPRESENT US VERY WELL. THEY KNOW ALBUQUERQUE AND NEW MEXICO EXTREMELY WELL. THEY HAVE AN EXCELLENT PERFORMANCE. WE HOPE YOU SUPPORT THIS. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU, SIR. >> I HAVE TANIA AS OUR LAST SPEAKER. >> WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO READ THE STATEMENT? >>COUN. BENTON: SURE. >> OKAY, I'LL READ IT. SHE'S THE CERTIFIED PROFESSIONAL AND DIRECTOR OF MEETINGS AND CONFERENCE FOR THE AMERICAN SOCIETY OF TECHNOLOGIESTS WHICH IS NATIONAL ASSOCIATION BASED IN ALBUQUERQUE AND SERVES ON THE BOARD. SHE STATED IN MY 20 YEARS I'VE WORKED WITH DESTINATION MARKETING ORGANIZATIONS HOWEVER EXCEPT FOR ALBUQUERQUE BECAUSE I LIVE AND WORK HERE I NEVER WORKED WITH A DMO THAT HAD TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT COMPETITIVE BUSINESS PROCESS. I WOULD NOT CHOOSE A CITY THAT HAS THAT MODEL. WE'RE NOW IN THE PROPOSAL PHASE FOR 2026. I CAN'T IMAGINE WORKING CLOSELY IN THE NEGOTIATION AND PLANNING PHASES ONLY TO FIND OUT IN A COUPLE YEARS THAT ORGANIZATION NO LONGER REPRESENTS THE CITY. A DMO IS AN ESSENTIAL PARTNER. AND THEY GET TO KNOW ORGANIZATIONS SUCH AS MINE. SHE SAYS SHE FEELS THAT IN HER OPINION WE HAVE LOST BUSINESS AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO LOSE BUSINESS IF WE CONTINUE IN THE CURRENT MODEL. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU. YEAH, HAVING SERVED ON THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE FOR YEARS WE'VE BEEN ROUND AND ROUND WITH THIS, AND I THINK THIS IS THE RIGHT WAY TO GO AND THE RIGHT RESOLUTION. I APPRECIATE THE CO-SPONSOR, COUNCILOR GROUT AND COUNCILOR SANCHEZ IS A BIG SUPPORTER OF WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO THERE. AND THIS MAKES COMMON SENSE. >>COUN. BENTON: THAT'S A CLOSE. I'LL LET COUNCILOR GROUT CLOSE. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. THIS WILL HELP OUR ECONOMY IN SO MANY WAYS. AS TOURISM AND MARKETING DIVISION, AND YOU NEED A LITTLE STABILITY. WE'VE SPENT A LOT OF TIME PUTTING RFP TOGETHER AND LOSE GROUND. THAT'S NOT WHAT WE WANT. THIS PAST YEAR I'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO ATTEND THE BOARD MEETINGS AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT THIS IS ONE TOP-NOTCH ORGANIZATION AND I'M PROUD TO HAVE THEM REPRESENT US. I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR. WE'LL MOVE TO A VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >> THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU. MOVER ON TO ITEM I. COUNCILOR JONES, FIREFIGHTER, COUNCILOR GROUT, O-49. >>COUN. JONES: COUNCILOR PEÑA. >>COUN. PEÑA: I DEFER TO COUNCILOR GROUT. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. O-49 COMMITTEE SUB ESTABLISHED THE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AND SEXUAL ASSAULT, ESTABLISHING THE COMMISSION. MOVE A DUE PASS. >>COUN. BENTON: MOTION AND SECOND FROM COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? >> WE HAVE TWO SPEAKERS. >> FIRST SPEAKER IS TIFFANY FOLLOWED BY YAZMINE. YAZMINE? >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCILOR BENTON, AND MEMBERS, I'M A SENIOR ATTORNEY AT THE NEW MEXICO IMMIGRANT LAW CENTER. AND WE'RE A NON-PROFIT LEGAL ORGANIZATION WHO SERVES IMMIGRANT CLIENTS ACROSS IT STATE FREE OF CHARGE. WE SERVE THE IMMIGRANT POPULATION THAT HAS BEEN VICTIMS OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AND SEXUAL ASSAULT. AND WE STRONGLY ENCOURAGE YOU TO APPROVE O-49 AS MANY COMMUNITY MEMBERS HAVE BEEN PART OF THE RECOMMENDATION INCLUDING CREATING THIS COMMISSION. AND IN DOING SO, THE NMLP WOULD BENEFIT FROM PARTICIPATING OR PROVIDING INPUT. WE URGE YOU TO PASS O-49. THANK YOU. >> WE WILL GO BACK TO TIFFANY. >> YES, GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE. I AM COMING FROM THE COALITION TO STOP VIOLENCE AGAINST NATIVE WOMEN. I REPRESENT THE BERNALILLO COUNTY DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AND SEXUAL ASSAULT DISCIPLINARY TEAM. WE ARE A DIVERSE GROUP OF PROFESSIONALS WORKING TOGETHER WITH SHARED DECISION MAKING AND PARTNERSHIP WITH ONE ANOTHER WHOSE MISSION IT IS TO ADDRESS THE EXPANSIVE NEEDS OF VICTIMS IN BERNALILLO COUNTY. WE ALSO IDENTIFIED GAPS IN SERVICES AND WORK TO FILL THOSE GAPS AMONG BOTH OUR TEAM AND OTHER STAKEHOLDERS. SOME OF THE THINGS WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE FROM A PART OUR COMMENT IS PARAGRAPH A TO ENSURE THE SERVICE PROVIDER MEMBERS ARE LEGITIMATE SERVICE PROVIDES THAT REPRESENT THE DIVERSE COMMUNITIES INCLUDING NATIVE COMMUNITIES AND LGBTQ COMMUNITIES. >> THATONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BEON: WE'RE BACKON THE BILL. SPONSORS, COUNCILOR BASS. >>COUN BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, I RECEIV SOME COMMUCATION FROM PEOPLE THAT WONDERED W I WAS NOT I SUPPORT OF THIS BILL. IOULD LI TO CLARIFY FOR EVERYBO AND ANYBODY WATCHING THAT I'V ALWAYS BEEN I SUPPORT OF THIS BILL. I HAVE A FEELING TAT AS WE'RE ONLY ALLOWD UP TO MAXUM OF FOUR SPONSORS ON ANY BILL I WAS NOT ONE OFTHEM. I HPE MY COLLEAGUES WOULD HAVE CLUDED ME IF WE WERE ALLOWED DO SO. I WANT TO MKE SURE TO CLARIFY BECAUSE MY NAM W NOT SHOWING THE RAININGEMALE COUNCOR ON TIS BIL A A SPONSOR, IT DID NOT MEAN I WAS NOT IN SUPPOR OF IT. I DO SUPPO THIS BL AND ALWAYS HAVE. >>COUN. BEON: THANK YO COUNCIOR. Y OTHER QUESTION O COMMENTS. APPRECTE THE WORK OF E SPONORS ON THIS. AND THE SUPRTF COUNCILOR BASSAN. COUN. JONES:WITH THAT, MR. ESIDENT, WE URGE YOUSUPPORT. COUN. BENTON: VERYGOOD. THANK YOU. UNCIR SANCHEZ, DO U HAVE YOURAND UP? >>COUN. NCHE YES, SIR,HANK YOU. I THNK YOU MISSED IT, BUT I THIN THIS IS AVERY, VE IMPOANT BILL. COMING FRO A LAWNFORCEMENT BACKGROUND, IS SOMETHING THAT IS VERY VERY MUC ON THE MINDS OF NUMEROUS IIVIDUALS AND KN THIS IS SOMETNG THAT NEEDS TOBE TAKENVE, VERY RIOUSLY. OU KNOW, EVEN AS MY BUSINESS OPERATES, WE SPONSOR A PROGRAM LLED THE PURPLE PRS THRGH MYALSTTE INSURCE AGENCY. AND IS DEALIG WH VICTIMS OF DOSTIC OLENCE. AND EVERYWHE I O ANDURN WE NEED TO MAK SE THAT TH SITUATION IS ADESS. DOMESTIOLENCE IS SOMETHI AT I VERY VY DIFFICULT TO DEAL T 'SERY DIFFICULT TO COME FORWARD. AND SE THESE FOL FEEL THAT THEY'RE TRAPD IN THE SIATIONS. WE NEED TO REASRE THE VICTIMS THAT WREHERE T HELP AN WE NEEDO GIVE THEM EVE BITF SPPT WE PSIBLY C BEUSE SOMEOLK ARE TREATED IN A WY THAT IS INHUMANE AN BASED OFF OFY EXPERICE WEEED TO REALLY,EAL OTECT THE VICTIMSN ESE CASE THANK Y SMUCH. >>UNBENTON: THANK U, COCILOR. SORRYOR MISSINAT. I HAVE THE SAMPROBLEM WITH THE TOP OF M SCRE. THINK ITEEN MOVED, SECONDED A OSED. WE'LL GO T AOTE. >>UNBASSAN: YES. >> CNCOR GROUT, DD YOUAN TO MAKE A COMN IN. >>COUN. OU I JUST WANTEDO SAOMESTIC VIOLEN I RL AN AFFTSVERYE. D IT'S SAD. TRE'S ANY OUTHE THATS WATCHING TH IS IN NEED,LEE KW THA Y'RE NOT ALON YOU CAN CALL THE NATIONAL OMESTIC VIONC HOTIN AT 1-0-7972 TOK TO ANYONE. IF IT'S AN ERGENCY CALL1. WEE HERE TOUPPORT YUND REH OUT TSOMED THK YOU. >>COUN. NT: THANK YOU, COCIOR. IMRTANT INFOATN. WE'LLOV TO A VE UESS THER'SNY OTHER COMMENT >>CO. SSAN YES. >>UNDAVI YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKO: S. CO. GROUT: S. >>COUN. JOSYES. >>COUN. LEW:ES. >>COUNPEA: YES. >>COUN. NCEZ: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YE THATPASSES UNANIMOLY. >>COUN. BENT: CGRULATIONS, COUNCILOS. GO WK. L MOVE O-50. APPROVING A PROCURANT TO ELEDA A. AND THE CIT ORDINCEO SUORT THECQUITION AND RENOVATION OF THE BEVERAGE DISTBUTION FACILIT AND REPEALG A ACTIONS INCONSISTEN WIT TH ORDINAN. I MOV A DUEASS. SECONDROMOUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. THANK Y. AND WE DOAVE SOME FOLKS T SPEAKRO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT. > TNK YOU, COUNCILOR. AND THANKOUO THE EIRE CY COUNL FOR CONSIDERI OUR PRNLTH. CRAFT WOR IS EKINGUNDING IN THE AMOUNT O $400,000. THE STATE S AGRED T PROIDE $35000. AND THE CIT PSES $35000. THE CITY SERVE AS FISCAL AGT. THIS IS FOR AN EXPANON OF A LOCALLY GROWNANUFACTURER. IT WAS ESTABLIED IN 205ND IS ENGAGED IN THEUSINESS OF MANUFACTURING ALCOHLIC BEVEGES FOR CONSUMPTION. THE SANDIA HAR SIDER LINE IS RAID LAY EXPANDING. THEY'REOLD IN MAJORROCERY CHAINS. THE COMANYN TAP AND PREMISESES IN OVER 200 LOAL BAR AND RESTAURANTS. THEIR EXPANSION IS CATALYZ BY SIGNICANT DISTRIBUON CONTRACTS IN TEXAS. OVER 80% OF NEW REVENU WILL OME FROM XAS. AND THEY'RE GNG TO BE RELOCATING THEIR BEVERAGE MANUFACTURING FACILTY IN BUQUERQUE TO A NEW FACITY LOCAD AT 150112th STREET. THIS IS A BUILDING THAT USED HOUSE SACREDPOWER. E RELOIKZ LOICATION THE IMOVEMENTS WILL INCLUDE UP GRADING ELECTRICAL SERVICE AND INSTALNG DRAINS AND PLUMBING UP GRADING AND ADDITIONAL BUILD OUT OF FACILITY. MANUFACTURING ISN ALLOWABLE USE PER THE IDO. AND IN SUPPORT OF THEXPANSION THE COMPANY WILL NEEDO HIRE 20UDITIONAL EMPLOYEES BRINGING THEIR TOTAL TO 27. THE CREATED POSITIONS WL PAY $40,000. AND THE COMPANY EXPECTS T MAJORITY OF E JOBS TO BE FILLE BY ALBUQUERQUE RESINTS. THE NEW JOB WILL FILL GAPS IN MAN FACTURING, BREWING, DISSTILLING WAREHOUSE PACKAGE. THIS A HIGH QUALITY EMPLOYER THAT WILL PROVIDE HIGH-PAYING JOBS IN A HIGH GROWTH INDUSTRY. THE ANALYSIS SHOWS THE COMPANY WILL MAKE A CONTRIBUTION TO THE COMMUNITY. OVERALL THE CITY WILL RECEIVE OVER $447,000 IN NET BENEFITS OVER THE TEN YEARS PERIOD OF THE PROJECT. AND THE PROJECT WILL GENERATE $1.7 MILLION FOR ALL LOCAL TAXING DISTRICTS. IT IS A QUALIFIED PROJECT AS DEFINED BY THE STATE'S LOCAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ACT. THE CITY ENABLES LEGISLATION. THE PROJECT COMPLIES WITH THE ADOPTED CITY PLANS AND POLICIES AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PRIORITIES. BASED ON THE FINDINGS STAFF RECOMMENDS THE APPROVAL OF 22-8 AS PROPOSED IN THE PROJECT PLAN APPLICATION. WE'RE THRILLED THE COMPANY MADE A CONTINUED COMMITMENT TO THE CITY AND IS INVESTING TIME AND ENERGY AND CAPITAL INTO OUR COMMUNITY AND WE WANT TO THANK THEM AND THE STATE AND AREA FOR ALL THE HELP WITH MAKING THIS PROJECT BECOME A REALITY. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU, MR. CHAVEZ. YOU HAVE OTHER GUESTS. I SEE OUR FRIEND MAX FROM NEW MEXICO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE IT'S A LATE NIGHT ONCE AGAIN. I NEED TO EXTEND MY DEEP APPRECIATION AND RESPECT TO THE ALBUQUERQUE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WITHOUT WHOM THIS WOULD NOT BE POSSIBLE. THE STATE IS FULLY COMMITTED TO THE PROJECT. WE'RE EXCITED TO BE ABLE TO CONTRIBUTE FUNDING TO THE EXPANSION AND I RESPECTFULLY URGE COUNCIL TO PASS THIS PROJECT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU, SIR. CHRIS, DO YOU HAVE ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? >> YES, WE HAVE MIGUEL. >> MR. PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, I TRULY APPRECIATE THE CONSIDERATION BY THE COUNCIL IN THIS MATTER. I WANT TO THANK CITY AND STATE'S ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TEAMS THAT HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH ME NOW FOR CLOSE TO A YEAR. I'M A BORN AND RAISED NEW MEXICAN. AND THIS IS TRULY A NEW MEXICO SUCCESS STORY. OUR GROWTH AND EXPANSION WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN POSSIBLE WITHOUT THE SUPPORT OF OUR CITY AND THE MANY PEOPLE WHO APPRECIATE OUR PRODUCTS. OUR COMMITMENT HAS BEEN TO HIRE AND CREATE CAREERS FOR NEW MEXICANS AND TO FOCUS OUR PRODUCTS IN NEW MEXICO AND RECENTLY BEYOND. WE HAVE SURVIVED COVID, WE HAVE PERSEVERED THROUGH SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUES AND BEEN BATTLING INFLATION EVEN AS WE SPEAK. AND DESPITE ALL THE CHALLENGES WE'VE FACED SINCE 2015 WE HAVE NEVER BEEN MORE OPTIMISTIC ABOUT HOW THIS COMPANY WILL CONTINUE TO SUCCEED. I TRULY APPRECIATE THE COUNCIL'S CONSIDERATION TONIGHT. AND ENCOURAGE YOUR VOTE. THANK YOU SO MUCH. WE HAVE THE ATTORNEY IF THERE'S ANY TECHNICAL QUESTIONS. COUNCILORS? SEEING NONE. THANKS FOR STICKING WITH US, CHRIS. >> ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU, SIR. 4. >>COUN. BENTON: THANKS FOR YOUR HELP, AS USUAL. AND WE'RE BACK ON THE BILL. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? IF NOT, WE'LL MOVE TO A VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU. CONGRATULATIONS GENTLEMEN. COUNCILOR DAVIS, O-53. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU, I'LL TRY TO MAKE THIS QUICK. IT REPEALS THE ALBUQUERQUE TAX PREPARERS IT'S ENTIRETY AND I MOVE A DUE PASS. >>COUN. BENTON: SECOND FROM COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. DO WE HAVE ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? >> YES, MR. PRESIDENT. OUR FIRST SPEAKER IS ANDREW FOLLOWED BY GRACE. >> GOOD EVENING, I'M AN ATTORNEY WITH THE ROADY LAW FIRM AND REPRESENT ACTOR WHICH IS THE AMERICAN COALITION FOR TAXPAYER RIGHTS. THIS IS AN ORGANIZATION THAT REPRESENTS THE LEADING WAX PREPARERS BOTH OF RETAIL AND LON SERVICES IN THE COUNTRY. WHEN THE CITY COUNCIL INITIALLY PASSED THE TAX PREPARER ORDINANCE IN 2021, IT DID SO WITHOUT ANY INPUT FROM THE INDUSTRY. WE APPROACHED THE CITY COUNCIL, THE CITY COUNCIL UNDERSTOOD THE NEED TO MAKE REVISIONS AND IN THE LAST YEAR WE'VE WORKED DILIGENTLY WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, WITH REPRESENTATIVES OF CONSUMERS JRB PARTICULARLY WITH COUNCILOR DAVIS'S OFFICE. TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS NEW BILL IS FAIR, AND ACCURATELY REFLECTS THE TAXPAYER EXPERIENCE. WE URGE THE COUNCIL TO -- [ INAUDIBLE ]. >> GRACE FOLLOWED BY MARIA. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILORS, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK THIS EVENING. CURRENTLY, ALBUQUERQUE CONSUMERS WHO WANT TO PURCHASE COMMERCIAL INCOME TAX PREPARATION SERVICES HAVE LESS INFORMATION ABOUT PRICING AND QUALITY BEFORE MAKING THAT PURCHASE THAN THEY DO BEFORE PURCHASE A PAIR OF SOCKS. THE DISCLOSURES ABOUT PRICING AND PREPARER QUALIFICATIONS REQUIRED BY THE ORDINANCE WILL HELP ALBUQUERQUE FAMILIES FAKE BETTER CHOICES ABOUT SERVICES VITAL TO THEIR WELL-BEING. BECAUSE OF CHILD-BASED TAX CREDITSES SUCH AS EARNED INCOME AND CHILD TAX CREDITS INCOME TAX REFUNDS ARE 23% OF THE ANNUAL CASH FLOW NATION WIDE. INFORMED CHOICE ABOUT INCOME TAX PREPARATION MEANS MORE REFUND DOLLARS WILL REACH THE CITIZENS. >> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. I'M THE DIRECTOR OF ECONOMIC EQUITY WITH THE NEW MEXICO CENTER ON LAW AND POVERTY. THE CENTER HAS WORKED TO IMPROVE ACCESS TO FAIR LENDING AND COMBAT PREDATORY LENDING PRACTICES. WHAT WE SEE IS THAT REFUND ANTICIPATION LOANS WHICH ARE LOANS FROM TAX PREPARERS ARE A MAJOR PROBLEM. OVER HALF OF ALL REFUND ANTICIPATION LOAN BORERERS QUALIFY FOR THE EARNED INCOME TAX CREDIT ACCORD TO THE FINANCIAL DATA. THESE CREDITS ARE IMPORTANT FOR LOW INCOME FAMILIES AS THEY'RE USED TO COVER BASIC NEEDS ASK EX-PENGSES. WHEN CONSUMERS TAKE OUT THE LOANS IT'S DIFFICULT TO CALCULATE THE TRUE COST AFTER THE FEES AND CHARGES DEDUCTED FROM THE REFUND. THIS BILL WILL HELP BORROWERS. FOR THIS REASON, THE CENTER SUPPORTS THIS BILL. >> AURORA FOLLOWED BY YAZMINE. >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCILOR BENTON, AND CITY COUNCIL. I'M A FULL-TIME VOLUNTEER FOR THE NEW MEXICO IMMIGRANT LAW CENTER. THE NEW MEXICO IMMIGRANT LAW CENTER IS A NON-PROFIT LEGAL ORGANIZATION OFFERING FREE LEGAL SERVICES TO NEW MEXICAN IMMIGRANTS AND URGE CITY COUNCIL TO PASS O-53. THROUGH MY EXPERIENCE, I HAVE COME TOLEARN THE IMMIGRANT COMMUNITY IS NOT ONLY GRATEFUL FOR SUPPORT BUT ALSO FOLLOWS RULES AND REGULATIONS REQUIRED OF THEM TO CONDUCT BUSINESS IN THE CITY. HOWEVER MANY ARE HIS TENT TO ASK QUESTIONS. FOR THAT REASON, IT IS IMPERATIVE THIS ORDINANCE IS PASSED SO TAX PREPPERS -- FALLING VICTIM TO PREDATORY PRACTICES IS COMMON MANY IMMIGRANTS WHO ARE STARTING THEIR BUSINESS ARE HESITANT TO TRUST INFORMATION PROVIDED TO THEM. IT'S IMPORTANT FOR INDIVIDUALS SEEKING TO HAVE OPPORTUNITIES TO BE PROPERLY INFORMED HAVE HAVE CONTACT INFORMATION. THANK YOU FOR CONSIDERING THE ORDINANCE AND WE URGE YOU TO PASS IT. >> YAZMINE. >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL PRESIDENT, CITY COUNCIL, AS I MENTIONED I'M A SENIOR ATTORNEY AT THE NEW MEXICO IMMIGRANT LAW CENTER. I'M COMMENTING IN FAVOR OF THE ALBUQUERQUE TAX PREPARER ORDINANCE. AS THE ECONOMIC JUSTICE AND POLICY ATTORNEY I'VE PARTICIPATED IN MEETING THAT PROVIDE -- BECAUSE OF THE INTEREST OF IMDPRNT AFFAIR. IT MAY COME AS A SURPRISE BUT IT'S IMPERATIVE FOR IMMIGRANT CLIENTS TO HAVE ACCESS TO TAX PREPARATION SERVICES AND THIS WOULD AID ENSURING THAT. TAXES IS USED TO PROVE GOOD MORAL CHARACTER AND WE HAVE NUMEROUS INSTANCES WHERE OUR CLIENTS ARE IN DIFFICULT SITUATIONS BECAUSE THEY'RE VICTIMS OF PREDATORY TAX PREP SERVICES. THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. >> MR. PRESIDENT, THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU. ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? COUNCILOR DAVIS TO CLOSE. >>COUN. DAVIS: MR. PRESIDENT, THIS IS ONE OF THE REALLY RARE PLACES WHERE AFTER A LOT OF MEETING AND BACK AND FORTH ARGUING THE ADVOCATES AND THE INDUSTRY HAVE COME TO AN DPREEMENT ON SOMETHING. AND NONE OF THE SPEAKERS OPPOSED IT. WE ENCOURAGE YOU TO SUPPORT IT AS WELL. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR. WE'LL MOVE TO A VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >> THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU. NOW MOVE TO ITEM M. R-74. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. IT APPROVES THE METROPOLITAN REDEVELOPMENT AREA PLAN. I NEED A SECOND. >>COUN. BENTON: THERE'S A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. DAVIS: MR. PRESIDENT, I'LL MAKE THIS QUICK. I KNOW WE HAVE FRIENDS IN THE ADMINISTRATION THAT WANT TO WEIGH IN. THIS IS STRAIGHT FORWARD. THIS CREATES THE NEW DESIGNATION FOR THAT STRETCH OF CENTRAL ALONG AND NEAR THE UNIVERSITY. IT CONNECTS THE DOWNTOWN WITH THOSE ON EAST CENTRAL AND ALLOWS US TO RECREATE AND RECONNECT A COMMUNITY CONNECTION FOR THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS. WE URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU. ADMINISTRATION WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? >> THIS IS THE DIRECTOR OF THE METROPOLITAN REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY. I WANT TO THANK COUNCILOR DAVIS FOR ALL OF THE SUPPORT THROUGHOUT ON THIS PLAN. WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS PLAN. IT DOES SOME DIFFERENT THINGS THAN OUR PRIOR PLANS. FOR INSTANCE HAVING A STAKEHOLDER'S GROUP TO FOCUS ON IMPLEMENTATION OF THE PLAN. THAT GROUP IS STARTING TO MEET. WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THAT. IT ALSO RECOMMENDS SOME GOOD STUFF ON PEDESTRIAN AND BICYCLE AREAS AND INCREASING HOUSING OPTIONS AND WE HAVE GOOD SUPPORT FROM THE UNIVERSITY. WE'RE REALLY OPTIMISTIC THAT WITH THIS PARTICULAR PLAN WE'LL GET TO TEAM UP WITH UNM AND THE COMMERCIAL BUSINESS INTERESTS IN THE AREA AND HOUSING INTERESTS AND REALLY HAVE A JOINT EFFORT TO REALLY REHAB CENTRAL AND YALE IN THAT ENVIRONMENT. WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THIS PLAN AND EXCITED TO GET GOING ON IT. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BENTON: COUNCILOR DAVIS TO CLOSE. MR. PRESIDENT, THAT YOU HAPPENING VERY MUCH. IT'S I'M GRATEFUL TO SEE HIM HERE AND HELPING BRING THIS HOME. IT'S A MULTIYEAR EFFORT. WE URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. BENTON: MOVE TO A VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >> THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. BENTON: WE'LL MOVE TO ITEM N. COUNCILOR BASSAN, MYSELF, AND COUNCILOR JONES. I'LL MOVE A DUE PASS. THIS IS A REALLY SIMPLE BILL. THERE'S A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT VEHICLE NOISE IN THE CITY. BUT THIS SPECIFICALLY WOULD DIRECT THE ADMINISTRATION TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE CURRENT TECHNOLOGY THAT'S AVAILABLE TO LOOK AT AUTOMATED TECHNOLOGY TO DETECT ILLEGAL VEHICLE NOISE. AND WE KNOW THERE ARE -- THIS IS JUST ONE POTENTIAL PIECE OF THE PUZZLE WITH REGARD TO THIS AGGRESSIVE BEHAVIOR AND THERE ARE OTHER THINGS THAT CAN BE DONE AS WELL. WE HAVE LOOKED INTO IT WITH COUNCIL STAFF AND WE KNOW THAT THE SYSTEMS ARE AVAILABLE AND CAN BE CHECKED OUT BY A CITY ON A TRIAL BASIS. AT A FAIRLY LOW COST. THAT'S WHAT IT'S ABOUT. IT SHOULD NOT BE A HIGH-COST ISSUE TO TRY IT OUT. WE'LL GO AHEAD AND HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS. >> OUR FIRST SPEAKER IS NICK FOLLOWED BY ANDREA. >> GOOD EVENING, AND THAT YOU KNOW, MR. PRESIDENT AND COUNCILORS FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. I'M A PROFESSOR IN THE CIVIL ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT AT UNM. I'D LIKE TO COMMEND THE COUNCILORS FOR PUTTING FORTH THIS AUTOMATED VEHICLE NOISE ENFORCEMENT PROGRAM. I THINK IT'S A VERY FORWARD-THINKING APPROACH TO AN IMPORTANT PUBLIC HEALTH ISSUE. I WANTED TO LET YOU ANY WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS TECHNOLOGY IN ALBUQUERQUE FOR A COUPLE YEARS. I'VE BEEN TALKING TO NATHAN ON YOUR STAFF AND I HOPE WE CAN CONTINUE TO WORK TOGETHER TO SOLVE THIS IMPORTANT NOISE ISSUE. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU, SIR. >> ANDREA. >> HI, APOLOGIES FOR THE DELAY. I JUST GOT ACCESS TO SPEAK. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO START THE TIMER. ALL RIGHT. IT IS ALMOST FIVE HOURS AFTER WE STARTED THIS MEETING. THIS HAS BEEN VERY EXCITING AND ACTIVE. I KNOW THIS BILL IS ALREADY BEEN DISCUSSED AND IT'S ON FINAL ACTION. AND COUNCILOR BENTON, I THINK I COMMENTED LAST TIME ON SUPPORTING FOR THE INTEREST IN PUBLIC HEALTH AND THE NEED FOR AN EVALUATION FOR THIS PILOT. I THINK I MISSED A SIGNIFICANT POINT LAST TIME. I THINK THERE ARE A NUMBER OF THINGS THAT REALLY COULD BE COUPLED WITH THIS BILL. AND ADJUSTED AMENDMENTS THAT WOULD ACTUALLY CREATE A CLUSTER OF APPROACHES TO PUBLIC HEALTH WHEN IT COMES TO NOISE. AND I JUST DID NOT SEE THEM COUPLED IN HERE. I USED TO LIVE ON COAL AND EDITH. MY SINGLE PAYNE WINDOWS WERE -- WHILE I WAS IN GRAD SCHOOL. SO, I JUST WOULD ENCOURAGE ADDITIONAL AMENDMENTS TO THE BILL AND PILOT AND WOULD BE HAPPY TO PROVIDE ANY WRITTEN SUGGESTIONS. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU. >> MR. PRESIDENT, THAT CONCLUDES COMMENT. >>COUN. BENTON: JUST WITH REGARD TO THE LAST COMMENT, I FULLY AGREE AND WE KNOW THERE ARE OTHER OPTIONS AS WELL THAT WE NEED TO BE LOOKING AT. THIS WILL BE A FIRST STAB. AND WE'VE ALSO DISCUSSED OTHER LINKS TO ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH AND POSSIBLE EMISSIONS TESTING PROGRAMS THAT ALREADY EXIST AS HOW THOSE CAN BE LINKED IN. THIS IS REALLY JUST TO GET OUR CITY TAKING THE TECHNOLOGY FOR STARTERS. I'LL LEAVE IT TO MY SPONSORS IF THEY WANT TO REDIRECT IT IN SOME WAY. ANY DISCUSSION, COUNCILORS? APPRECIATE THE CO-SPONSORS INTEREST. THIS IS A PLAYING THAT WE'VE HAD IN THE CITY. AND APPRECIATE APD REALLY FOR THE FIRST TIME UNDER THIS APD LEADERSHIP HAS BEEN TAKING THIS ISSUE SERIOUSLY. AND ISSUED SOME TICKETS OVER THE LAST COUPLE YEARS. AND I THINK IT'S HELPED. IT'S GOTTEN A WORD OUT THERE IT'S NOT OKAY. AS WE KNOW THEY'RE STRETCHED THIN. AND THERE'S A POSSIBLE WAY TO BE A FORCE MULTIPLIER FOR POLICE DEPARTMENT TO TRY TO CUT DOWN ON AGGRESSIVE DRIVING BEHAVIOR. WITH THAT, I'LL ASK MY SPONSORS IF THEY LIKE TO CLOSE. SO WE CAN GET MOVING ON THIS. COUNCILOR BASSAN OR COUNCILOR JONES. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, I URGE YOUR SUPPORT BUT I THANK YOU FOR INCLUDING US. ESPECIALLY GOING BACK TO THE MOBILE SPEED ENFORCEMENT CONVERSATION AS WELL. THIS ALL BEGAN QUITE A WHILE AGO. >>COUN. BENTON: I THINK THERE'S BEEN GOOD COLLABORATION AMONG COUNCILORS ON THESE ISSUES OF THIS AGGRESSIVE BEHAVIOR ON THE STREETS. THANKS FOR THAT. WE'LL MOVE TO A VOTE. >>COUN. DAVIS: JUST A QUICK COMMENT. I JUST WANT TO SAY AS THE ONLY COUNCILOR WHO VOTED AGAINST THE SPEED CAMERAS, I THINK THIS IS A GOOD APPROACH TO ELECTRONIC ENFORCEMENT. ONE OF THE REPORTERS SAID THIS MATTERS BECAUSE THIS IS USING ENFORCEMENT AGAINST THE VEHICLE. IT'S IDENTIFYING THE VEHICLE. I REALIZE THE NOTICE GOES TO THE REGISTERED OWNER. THIS IS A GOOD WAY TO TARGET VEHICLES THAT ARE IMPROPERLY ON OUR STREET. I'M NOT PERSUADED THE SPEED CAMERAS ARE DETERRING FEEL FROM SPEEDING. THIS IS DEFINITELY HELPING US IDENTIFY VEHICLES THAT ARE IMPROPERLY ON THE STREETS AND GIVING NOTICE THEY HAVE TO CORRECT THEM. I THINK THIS IS A GOOD ONE. AND I ENCOURAGED TO HEAR LOCAL FOLKS ARE WORKING ON IT. AND WHERE APPRECIATE EVERYONE WORKING SO HARD. AND ESPECIALLY TO THE SPONSORS WHO HAVE BEEN TRYING TO COME UP WITH A SOLUTION. AND THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT, FOR CONTINUING TO PUSH THIS. THIS IS A PERSONAL PROJECT OF YOURS FOR A COUPLE YEARS. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BENTON: THANKS, COUNCILOR. ALL RIGHT. SORRY I MISSED YOUR HAND. YOU'RE IN THE TOP ROW. I THINK THAT'S WHERE THE HANDS ARE SUPPOSED TO APPEAR. IT'S NOT WORKING ON MY COMPUTER. WE'LL GO TO A VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: NO. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >> THAT PASSES ON AN 8-1 VOTE. >>COUN. BENTON: NEXT IS R-87. THIS IS AN AWARD FROM THE U.S. DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND DEVELOPMENT FOR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK ACT AND AWARD FROM THE STATE OF NEW MEXICO BEGINNING FISCAL YEAR 2023. I MOVE A DUE PASS. SECOND FROM COUNCILOR BASSAN. THANK YOU. ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS? >> NO, MR. PRESIDENT. >>COUN. BENTON: ALL RIGHT. THIS IS AS DESCRIBED IN THE TITLE. I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU. WE'RE NOW ON ITEM Q -- LAST OF THE EVENING. AND THIS IS -- THIS IS COUNCILOR PEÑA, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, AND COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. LEWIS: MR. PRESIDENT, DID YOU SKIP ITEM O? >>COUN. BENTON: DID I MISS ONE OR MORE? SORRY. ITEM O, MEMORIAL SIX. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. MEMORIAL SIX IS ASKING THE NEW MEXICO LEGISLATURE TO REINSTATE QUALIFIED IMMUNITY. I MOVE A DUE PASS. >>COUN. LEWIS: SECOND. >>COUN. BENTON: THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR A DUE PASS ON M6. ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? >> YES, WE HAVE SEVERAL SPEAKERS. >> FIRST SPEAKER ON MY LIST IS CYNTHIA FOLLOWED BY CARL. >> HI, I'M AN ORGANIZER WITH THE PORTE FOR ESSENTIALISM SOCIALISM AND LIBERATION. I ASK THE CITY COUNCIL TO VOTE NO AND ACTUALLY ENFORCE THE CONSENT DECREE AND HOLD POLICE ACCOUNTABLE. NOVEMBER 7 SANCHEZ INTRODUCED THIS TO ASK THE STATE TO BRING BACK QUALIFIED IMTUNITY. SINCE THAT CITY COUNCIL MEETING APD SHOT AND KILLED AT LEAST THREE PEOPLE IN ALBUQUERQUE. IT'S BEEN A MONTH. IT'S BEEN 30 DAYS. AND THEY COULDN'T MANAGE TO NOT KILL ANYBODY. SO, IN THIS PAST YEAR, THERE'S BEEN 18 PEOPLE SHOT AT OR SHOT BY APD WHICH IS ACTUALLY AN INCREASE FROM LAST YEAR. SHOWING THAT THEY HAVEN'T BEEN REFORMED OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. SO THE IDEA WE SHOULDN'T HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE IS RIDICULOUS. FAMILIES OF VICTIMS FOR POLICE BRUTALITIES SHOULD HAVE ALL AVENUES TO SEEK JUSTICE. >> CARLED FOLLOWED BY BEN. BEN FOLLOWED BY JOZA. >> I WANT TO REITERATE THAT QUALIFIED IMTUNITY IS NOT THE SOLUTION TO THE MANY PROBLEMS FACING. ESPECIALLY IF THE ARGUMENT THAT IT WILL ATTRACT POLICE OFFICERS SINCE WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH POLICE OFFICERS I THINK IT'S THE WRONG SOLUTION. AGAIN, FIRST IF WE'RE ATTRACTING OFFICERS BY THE PROMISE OF REDUCED ACCOUNT BALITYD ABILITY WE'RE ATTRACTING THE WRONG PEOPLE TO WORK FOR ALBUQUERQUE. SECOND THE CITY'S WITH QUALIFIED IMMUNITY DO NOT -- HAVE NOT SOLVED THEIR SHORTAGE. THREE, NOT HAVING ENOUGH POLICE OFFICERS REALLY SPEAKS TO THE FACT THAT WE'RE ASKING POLICE OFFICERS TO DO WHAT IS NOT A POLICE ISSUE. IT MAKES NO SENSE TO ASK POLICE OFFICERS RESPONDING TO DRUG ADDICTION, HOMELESS, YOUTH PETTY CRIME, WE NEED SOCIAL SERVICES, WE NEED AFTER SCHOOL PROGRAMS, WE NEED MEDICAL ATTENTION. >> JOSE FOLLOWED BY JASON. >> HELLO AGAIN. I OPPOSE MEMORIAL CHANGE. I UNDERSTAND THIS YEAR HAS BEEN A VIOLENT YEAR. IT'S AFFECTED MY PERSONALLY. EARLIER THIS YEAR THERE'S THE HOMICIDE THAT HAPPENED ACROSS THE INTERSECTION FROM MY HOME. WITH THIS TYPE OF VIOLENCE TAKING PLACE RIGHT ACROSS FROM WHERE MY PARTNER AND I LIVE I WILL DON'T THINK BRINGING BACK QUALIFIED IMMUNITY WILL LOWER HOMICIDE RATE. THE NOTION OF GETTING RID OF QUALIFIED IMMUNITY WILL INCREASE APD RECRUITMENT NUMBERS IS IDEALISM. ACROSS THE COUNTRY EPOLICE DEPARTMENT THAT'S THAT HAVE THE PRIVILEGE HAVE A HARD TIME RECRUITING OFFICER. COUNCILOR SANCHEZ STATED THAT HE'S BEEN -- HE WORKED WITH THEM. HE HAS MADE IT CLEAR HE WAS A COP WITH APD WHICH HAS A UNION -- [ INAUDIBLE ]. TO COMMIT CRIME AND ARE ALLEGEDLY LAZY OR SLOPPY ON THE JOB. >> JASON FOLLOWED BY ROGER. >> GOOD EVENING, CITY COUNCIL. I AM SPEAKING -- THE LANGUAGE OF THE MEMORIAL ITSELF AND COMMENTS FROM THE PREVIOUS COUNCIL MEETING SEEMS TO SAY IT WILL HELP THE RATE OF THE POLICE FORCE. AS THE CHIEF OF POLICE CAME ON LAST TIME WE'RE SEEING POLICE SHORTAGES AND RETENTION RATE ISSUES ACROSS THE COUNTRY. IT MAKES NO SENSE TO ARGUE THAT QUALIFIED IMMUITY WILL HELP BUILD A STRONGER POLICE FORCE. IT SEEMS TO ME THAT ISSUE WITH POLICING IS POLICING ITSELF. IT'S NOT WE'RE NOT OFFERING PROTECTION FOR COPS TO GO OUT AND MURDER PEOPLE. INSTEAD WE SHOULD LOOK AT HOWEE WE CAN IMPROVE THEM BY SENDING THINGS TO SOCIAL WORKER OR OTHER GROUPS. IF WE WANT TO FIX CRIME WE SHOULD FOCUS ON ACCESS TO EDUCATION, HEALTH CARE AND HOUSING AND TAKING CARE OF CITIZENS SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO RESORT TO CRIME. >> ROGER FOLLOWED BY JULIAN. JULIAN FOLLOWED BY BECKS. >> HELLO, MR. PRESIDENT, CITY COUNCIL, I'D LIKE TO SPEAK MY PART IN SUPPORT OF M-22-6. THAT QUALIFIED IMMUNITY IS NEEDED FOR POLICE OFFICERS BECAUSE THESE GUYS SEEM TO THINK COPS ARE JUST GOING OUT THERE AND SHOOTING PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY WANT TO OR BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT HAVING A GOOD DAY OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE. THESE COPS ARE OUT THERE DEFENDING AND PROTECTING US AND OUR CITIZENS. THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT NOT COMING HOME AT NIGHT OR THEIR FAMILIES OR MUCH LESS WORRIED ABOUT BEING SUED OR WHATEVER PERSONALLY. BECAUSE OF MAYBE A POSITION THAT THEY MAY BE IN TO HAVE TO SHOOT SOMEBODY. I SUPPORT IT. I THINK IT WOULD BE A GOOD THING FOR OUR COPS TO HAVE JUST A POSITIVE ATTITUDE TO GO TO WORK EVERY DAY. >> BECKS FOLLOWED BY ANGELINA. ANGELINA FOLLOWED BY BOB. BOB FOLLOWED BY ANDREA. ANDREA FOLLOWED BY NICK. >> HELLO, IT'S ME AGAIN. AS YOU KNOW I'M A BIG FAN OF ACCOUNTABILITY AND FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY. THERE'S ACCOUNTABILITY FOR SERVERS AND THOSE THAT HOLD JURIS DOCTORATES AND THERE SHOULD BE REPER CUSHIONS FOR PUBLIC SAFETY PROFESSIONALS. DEFINITELY LOTS OF ACCOUNTABILITY FOR FOLKS THAT DO DATA. IF DATA IS INCORRECT YOU TAKE THE FALL. THERE'S NO RISK DEPARTMENT OR SAFETY NET AVAILABLE FOR OTHER PROFESSIONAL. SO, THE CITY ALLOCATES $12 MILLION FOR THAT OR HAS FOR FY23, AND I JUST TRULY BELIEVE THAT IF THAT KIND OF SAFETY NET OCCURS WE'LL NOT BE ENCOURAGING FOLKS TO TAKE BEST PRACTICE. AND WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO BE ALLOWING AN OPPORTUNITY FOR MISCONDUCT TO OCCUR. I'M A BIG SUPPORTER OF EVERYBODY DOING THE BEST THEY CAN AT THEIR JOB, AND IF YOU KNOW YOU CAN DO THAT AND REGARDLESS WHATEVER POSITION YOU'RE IN RURE PREVENTED FROM REACHING YOUR FULL POTENTIAL. I'M FOR YOU FOR RECONSIDERING THE SUPPORT OF IMMUNITY. SUPPORT OTHER DEPARTMENTS WHOSE CAPACITY IS STRAPPED AND COULD USE ADDITIONAL FUNDING. I DEFINITELY ENCOURAGE YOU TO -- I KNOW THERE'S LOT OF DIFFERENT OPINIONS REGARDING PUBLIC SAFETY ON THE COUNCIL. I REALLY APPRECIATE ALL OF THE BACK AND FORTH THAT GOES ON. I'M A BIG FAN. YOU KNOW, I JUST THINK THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IT REALLY ENCOURAGES US TO HAVE THE BEST PRACTICES POSSIBLE WHEN IT COMES TO THE CONDUCT OF OUR PUBLIC SAFETY OFFICIALS. >> NICK. NICK? >> CAN YOU HEAR ME? LET ME GET STARTED. I'M NICK. I'M AN ORGANIZER WITH THE PARTY OF SOCIALISM. >> WE CAN HEAR YOU. >> LET ME START OVER. I'M AN ORGANIZER WITH THE PARTY OF SOCIALISM AND LIBERATION. I'M ASKING YOU TO VOTE NO. QUALIFIED IITY IS AN UNDEMOCRATIC INVENTION FROM THE 1980s. IT WAS DEVELOPED AS A REACTION AS A RESULT OF THE DEMOCRATIC RIGHTS FROM THE U.S. CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT. TO HOLD POLICE OFFICERS AND OTHER PUBLIC OFFICIALS ACCOUNTABLE UNDER LAW. WE HAVE TO ABOLISH ANY OBSTACLE THAT LIMITS JUSTICE FOR THE FAMILIES OF OTHER VICTIMS OF POLICE TERROR. QUALIFIED IMMUITY HAS NO PLACE IN THE CITY WITH A LONG HISTORY AS PROBABLY THE MOST PER CAP RURATE OF POLICE SHOOTINGS AND MURDER. AS RECENTLY REPORTED IN 2022 OUR CITY WILL BREAK THE RECORD FOR APD POLICE SHOOTINGS AND MURDERS. WE DEMAND AN END TO POLICE TERROR AND THE PROSECUTION OF ALL KILLER COP AND VOTE NO. >> THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT. YOU'RE MUTED, MR. PRESIDENT. >>COUN. BENTON: COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I'D LIKE TO THANK MR. RIMMER FOR HIS NICE F-WORDS AND WE'RE APPROACHING THIS. HE WAS ONLINE AND DIDN'T KNOW IT. BASICALLY, OBVIOUSLY NOBODY EXPOSE WHAT OFFICERS DO. OFFICERS DO A JOB THAT HAS TO DEAL WITH THE BAD GUY. THEY GO IN TOWARD TROUBLE. THEY RUN TOWARD THE ISSUES. TO TAKE CARE OF OUR FAMILIES, OUR FRIENDS, THE INDIVIDUALS THAT WE CHERISH, OFFICERS DON'T GO INTO THE JOB BECAUSE THEY WANT TO KILL SOMEBODY OR HURT SOMEONE. OFFICERS GO INTO THE JOB BECAUSE THEY WANT TO HELP PEOPLE ASK -- AND PROTECT PEOPLE. AND DO THE RIGHT THING FOR THE CITIZENS OF ALBUQUERQUE. WE HEAR COUNTLESS STORIES OF HOW OFFICERS SAVED LIVES AND DEALT WITH DOMESTIC VIOLENCE SITUATIONS AND PROTECTED THE PUBLIC FROM VIOLENT CRIME OVER AND OVER. THESE THINGS OCCUR. WE SEE OFFICERS GETTING AWARDS FOR DELIVERERING BABIES, MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF POSITIVE CONTACTS ARE DEALT WITH BY OFFICERS. THESE OFFICERS ARE PROFESSIONALS. THEY DON'T COME INTO THE JOB JUST WALK THROUGH THE DOOR AND GETTING ONE INTERVIEW. THE PROCESS TO BECOME AN OFFICER IS LENGTHY. IT'S VERY, VERY HARD TO GET THROUGH. AND IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT MINDSET AND YOU'RE NOT UNDERSTANDING HOW IT IS TO TAKE CARE OF PEOPLE AND WORK WITH PEOPLE, AND MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE A POSITIVE OUTCOME, THEN YOU HAVE A VERY, VERY SMALL EDUCATION WHEN IT COMES TO OFFICERS AND WHAT OFFICERS DO. FOR US. THE PUBLIC. WE JUST PASSED A BILL PROTECTING VICTIMS OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE. THAT BILL WAS AN IMPORTANT BILL THAT PASSED. OFFICERS NEED HELP. WE NEED HELP AS CITIZENS AS SOCIETY. ERR GETTING -- WE'RE GETTING MORE VIOLENT AS THE DAY GOES BAY. AND A LOT OF THIS VIOLENCE IS BECAUSE WE HAVE LACK OF OFFICERS. WHEN OFFICERS ARE AVAILABLE AND WHEN OFFICERS ARE OUT AND ABOUT AND YOU DRIVE AROUND AND YOU SEE POLICE CARS, YOU'RE LESS LIKELY TO COMMIT THE CRIME. IT'S JUST BEING OUT THERE. AND LETTING THE PUBLIC SEE THAT YOU'RE OUT THERE. WHEN I WAS A SERGEANT, THE FIRST THING I STARTED TO SAY IS BE VISIBLE. MAKE SURE YOU'RE DRIVING DOWN THE STREETS. MAKE SURE THE CITIZENS KNOW YOU'RE THERE. MAKE SURE THE KIDS AND HAD CHILDREN KNOW YOU'RE THERE TO HELP THEM IN WHATEVER YOU NEED. WE TRAIN OUR TRAIN TO DIAL 911 WHEN THERE'S AN EMERGENCY SITUATION. IT'S VERY IMPORTANT WE SUPPORT OUR POLICE OFFICERS AND BUILD OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT. LIKE I SAID, MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF POSITIVE CONTACTS, AND SURE, WE STILL HAVE OUR ISSUES BUT EVERYBODY DOES. BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE AMOUNT OF CONTACT THAT AN OFFICER HAS VERSUS THE NEGATIVE ONES THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO GROW. I BELIEVE THAT THIS IS A VERY, VERY IMPORTANT THING TO PASS ON TO OUR LEGISLATURE SO WE CAN HELP WITH OUR GROWTH OF OUR DEPARTMENT. WITH THE RETENTION OF OUR OFFICERS TO MAKE SURE WE BACK THEM UP AND SUPPORT THEM. I HAVE NUMEROUS POLICE CHIEFS, THE LAST POLICE CHIEF, CHIEF BACA, ALL OF THE THREE POLICE CHIEFS WITH 40 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE EACH WHICH IS OVER 120 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE HAVE TOLD US AND TOLD ME AND SENT LETTERS TO SUPPORT THIS BILL. THAT'S 120 YEARS OF LAW FORCEMENT EXPERIENCE. EVERY OFFICER LISTENING TO US RIGHT NOW IS HOPING WE SUPPORT THEM WITH THE PASSING OF THIS MEMORIAL SO WE CAN MOVE THAT TOWARD THE LEGISLATURE. IT'S VERY, VERY IMPORTANT. WE HAVE SUPPORT FROM THE CURRENT PRESIDENT OF THE FOP. THE IMMEDIATE PAST PRESIDENT OF THE FOP. AND THE CURRENT STATE PRESIDENT ROB PARA SUPPORT ANY TOOL TO SUPPORT LAW ENFORCEMENT AND RECRUITMENT AND RETENTION EFFORTS. WE NEED TO GIVE THE OFFICERS THE TOOLS TO DO THEIR JOB AND MAKE SURE THEY KEEP ALL OF US SAFE. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU. COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN FOLLOWED BY COUNCILOR DAVIS. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. GEORGE FLOYD, ORLANDO -- FREDDY GRAY, ERIC GARNER, TAMIRA RACE, BRIANA TAYLOR, ALL NAMES WE SHOULD KNOW AND WE SHOULD LOOK TO FOR WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THERE'S QUALIFIED IMMUNITY AND PEOPLE ARE ABOVE THE LAW. YOU DON'T HAVE TO LOOK FROM THOSE NAMES FROM ACROSS THE NATION. YOU CAN LOOK HERE IN ALBUQUERQUE. JAMES BOYD, MARY HAWKS, BRETT, AND SO MANY MORE WE DON'T HAVE TIME FOR ME TO SAY THEM ALL. I'M THANKFUL THAT THE NEW MEXICO STATE LEGISLATURE HAS ENDED QUALIFIED IMTUNY AND SAID NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW. EVERYONE IN OUR STATE HAS TO FOLLOW THE LAW AND I'M REALLY GLAD THAT THEY WILL NOT BE OVERTURNING THAT. FOR THOSE REASONS AND I WILL BE OPPOSING THIS BILL. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BENTON: COUNCILOR DAVIS. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THE SPONSOR STARTING THIS. WE OFTEN HEAR AND KZ AND I GO -- HE SAYS NOBODY KNOWS WHAT IT'S LIKE TO BE A COP. I DO. I WAS IN A SHOOTING IN D.C. AND I SUPERVISED LOT OF OFFICERS WHO HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN CRITICAL INCIDENTS ABOUT WHETHER SOMEBODY MADE THE RIGHT DECISION. BUT PRECISELY FOR ALL THE REASONS MY GOOD FRIEND FROM THE WEST SIDE, MY COLLEAGUE JUST MENTIONED, WHEN YOU ARE IN TROUBLE AND YOU NEED SOMEBODY YOU WANT SOMEBODY WHO IS COMING TO FOLLOW THE RULES TO HELP. AND ALL OF US GOT INTO THAT JOB BECAUSE WE WANTED TO HELP AND WE UNDERSTOOD THE VALUE AND THE IMPORTANCE OF FOLLOWING THE LAW. AND WE UPHELD THE LAW AS SOMETHING IMPORTANT AND BIGGER THAN ALL OF US. IT IS POSSIBLE TO BE A COP WITHOUT VIOLATING SOMEONE'S CIVIL RIGHTS. AND IF YOU DON'T THINK YOU CAN DO THAT, THIS IS NOT THE DEPARTMENT FOR YOU. QUITE FRANKLY I THINK THE LEGISLATURE SAYS THIS IS NOT NEW MEXICO, THIS IS NOT THE STATE TO DO THAT. WE'VE SEEN ENOUGH PROBLEMS WITH A FEW BAD APPLES THAT TAINTED THE ENTIRE PROFESSION AND CREATED FRICTION IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT IS NOT NECESSARY. I'M PROUD OF APD FOR HIRING ALL THESE NEW OFFICERS WHO CAME TO US NOT WORRYING ABOUT WEARING A CAMERA AND WANTED TO DO THE RIGHT THING. THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES EVERY DAY FOR SOMEONE TO DO SOMETHING WRONG. AND WE HAVE TO HOLD OFFICERS ACCOUNTABLE TO THE SAME STANDARDS WE HOLD THE PUBLIC TO WHEN WE CHOOSE TO TAKE AWAY FREEDOMS. FOR ALL OF THE REASONS I BELIEVE IT'S IMPORTANT WESET EXPECTATIONS. AND I AGREE WITH COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. THIS IS NOT NECESSARY. WE KNOW IT'S NOT -- IT'S A POLITICAL MESSAGE. AND ONE THAT HURTS US IN OUR REFORM EFFORTS TO NOT BE UNITED IN EXPECTING THE VERY THING THAT THE COPS FOLLOWS THE HUMAN RIGHTS AND CONSTITUTION. I THINK WE CAN EXPECT THAT THEY CAN DO THAT. THEY HAVE SHOWN US THEY CAN. AND I CONTINUE TO EXPECT THAT THEY WILL. I WILL VOTE AGAINST THIS. >>COUN. BENTON: COUNCILOR LEWIS. >>COUN. LEWIS: MR. PRESIDENT, THANK YOU. INTERESTED IN THE ADMINISTRATION TO WEIGH ON THIS. IS THE CHIEF STILL HERE. THE CHIEF MENTIONED ABOUT WHAT THE COUNCIL CAN DO AND SOME OF THE WAYS TO SUPPORT POLICE OFFICERS AND HELPING INCREASE RETENTION. DO YOU SUPPORT THE BILL AND THE POLICE OFFICERS WITH THIS BILL? >> COUNCILOR BENTON, COUNCILOR LEWIS, THIS BILL IS IRRELEVANT FOR THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE AND ALBUQUERQUE POLICE DEPARTMENT. OUR OFFICERS ARE INDEMNIFIED. THEY HAVE ALL THE PROTECTIONS THEY NEED. I WANT TO MAKE SURE ALL THE OFFICERS HEAR THAT. COUNCILOR SANCHEZ SPOKE ABOUT THE FACT WE WANT OUR OFFICERS TO KNOW THEY'RE SUPPORTED. THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE AND THIS ADMINISTRATION WORKED HARD, COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR'S OFFICE TO ENSURE THEY'RE SUPPORTED. LAST YEAR WHEN THIS BILL PASSED WE PUT OUT THE MESSAGING TO CALM OUR OFFICERS DOWN AND MAKE SURE NO MATTER WHAT THEY'RE INVOLVED IN THEY'RE INDEMNIFIED BY THE CITY THROUGH THE COLLECTIVE BARG RNG AGREEMENT. WE SUPPORT OUR OFFICERS. WE DO ENNEMNIFY, BUT AS WE'VE SEEN WITH THE LATEST DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE WE HOLD OUR OFFICERS ACCOUNTABLE WHEN THEY DO WRONG. IT'S A BALANCING ACT WITH THIS ADMINISTRATION AND WE'LL CONTINUE THAT BALANCING ACT. AND WE'LL HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE WHEN THEY DON'T. >>COUN. LEWIS: YOU ACKNOWLEDGE YOUR OFFICERS WERE ALARMED BY THIS LAST YEAR. DO YOU SUPPORT THIS MEMORIAL OR NOT? >> I DON'T SEE THE IMPACT IT'S GOING TO HAVE ON THE ALBUQUERQUE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE. >>COUN. LEWIS: DOES THE ADMINISTRATION SUPPORT THIS MEMORIAL, YES OR NO? >> COUNCILOR PEÑA COUNCILOR BENTON, ? >> THERE'S NO YES OR NO ANSWER. THIS IS JUST A MEMORIAL. SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT GOING TO SAY YES OR NO ON THIS ONE. YOU HAVE ENOUGH DISCUSSION ALREADY IN THE COUNCIL AND WE DON'T WANT TO INTERVENE IN YOUR DISCUSSION AND THAT IS OUR POSITION. >>COUN. LEWIS: YOU ALL HAVE EMPHATICICALLY AND OPPOSED MEMORIALS BEFORE. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. >>COUN. BENTON: I SIGH THE SIT . >>COUN. BENTON: I SEE THE CITY ATTORNEY HAS HER HAND RAISED AND COUNCILOR BASSAN HAS HER HAND RAISED. >> I WANT TO FOLLOW UP ON THE CHIEF'S COMMENTS. TO CLAR TIE AS WE DISCUSSED AT THE LAST MEETING WHEN THE LAST TIME THIS WAS UP THE NEW MEXICO CIVIL RIGHT DOES NOT IMPOSE THE RISK OF JUDGMENT FOR ANY INDIVIDUAL OFFICER OR EMPLOYEE IT REQUIRES THE CITY TO INDEMNIFY ANYONE WHO IS SUBJECT TO A JUDGMENT. THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT BETWEEN APOA AND APD REQUIRES THE CITY TO ENDEMNIFY. I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT. I FEEL MUCH OF THE DISCUSSION IS FOCUSING ON MAKING SURE THAT OFFICERS AREN'T PUT AT RISK OF A JUDGMENT. I WANT TO CLARIFY WHAT THE STATUTE ACTUALLY SAYS. >>COUN. BENTON: COUNCILOR BASSAN. >> MR. PRESIDENT, YOU KNOW IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE JUST A MEMORIAL COMES UP WHEN MEMORIALS ARE DISCUSSED AND IT DEPENDS WHICH SIDE YOU'RE ON. AT THE SAME TIME I WANT TO GO ON THE RECORD TO SAY I THINK IT'S FAIR TO SAY WE SHOULD HOLD PEOPLE ACCOUNTABLE FOR WHAT THEY DO AND THEY SHOULD BE RESPONSIBLE TO DO THE RIGHT THING. I DPROOE WITH ALL OF THAT I AGREE WHEN WE'RE PUTTING CERTAIN PEOPLE INTO EXTREME CIRCUMSTANCES, AND ASKING THEM TO DO WHAT MANY OTHER PEOPLE WOULD NOT WANT TO DO IN ORDER TO PROTECT AND SERVE THE MAJORITY OF EVERYONE ELSE, I THINK THAT CALLS FOR A SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCE. AND I THINK QUALIFIED IMMUNITY IS A BIG PART OF THAT. I ABSOLUTELY THINK I HAVE ALWAYS BEEN IN SUPPORT OF APD. I DON'T THINK THEY'RE THE EVIL DEMONS THEY REFER TO THEM AS IN SO MANY WORDS. WHEN I WANT TO CALL FOR HELP AND GET ASSISTANCE OR I KNOW PEOPLE NEED IT, THE CHALLENGES ARE THERE. I HAVE SAID IT BEFORE, AND I'LL SAY IT AGAIN, I DON'T WANT TO DO THE JOB. AND I ABSOLUTELY APPRECIATE THERE'S THE RISK BEING TAKEN AND I THINK THAT CALLS FOR SOME KIND OF EX-TRAVING -- EXTRAVAGANT NEED. I'M IN SUPPORT OF QUALIFIED IMMUNITY. AND I'M HAPPY OUR OFFICERS HAVE PREKZ. I WISH I COULD HEAR THE ADMINISTRATION SAY THEIR SUPPORT A LITTLE BIT MORE RIGHT NOW. I THINK THE MAJORITY OF THE COUNCIL WILL SPEAK UP FOR THE SUPPORT FOR APD AS WELL. >>COUN. BENTON: ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER COUNCILORS? >>COUN. SANCHEZ: CAN WE MAKE A MOTION TO SUSPEND THE RULES AND EXTEND THE MEETING? >>COUN. BENTON: YES, YOU MAY, SIR. IS THERE A SECOND? >>COUN. GROUT: SECOND. THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND TO SUSPEND. I THINK WE CAN GET THIS DONE IN TEN MINUTES OR SO. LET'S SAY 15 TO BE SAFE. THAT'S ALL RIGHT WITH YOU, COUNCILOR SANCHEZ? WE'LL GO TO A VOTE ON THAT. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >> THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >> ALL RIGHT. WE'RE BACK WITH THE CLOCK. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, COUNCILORS? COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, WOULD YOU LIKE TO CLOSE? >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. YOU KNOW -- >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, I SAW COUNCILOR GROUT HAD HER HAND UP BEFORE THE CLOSE. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE SHE MIGHT HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY. >>COUN. BENTON: OKAY. LET'S HAVE COUNCILOR GROUT SPEAK. AND WE'LL HAVE YOU CLOSE. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. YOU KNOW TODAY I WENT TO THE APD GRADUATION AND I SAW 30 YOUNG MEN AND WOMEN GET THEIR BADGES TODAY. AND THEIR FAMILIES, MOST OF THEM HAD FAMILY MEMBERS PIN THOSE BADGES ON THEM. AND IT REALLY TOUCHED MY HEART AND I WAS THINKING IF THAT WAS MY CHILD GOING TO BE PROTECTING OUR CITY AND JUST KNOWING WHAT I'VE LEARNED THIS YEAR IN WHAT IS PLAGUING OUR CITY RIGHT NOW, I WOULD WANT EVERY PROTECTION POSSIBLE TO KNOW I WANT EVERYBODY TO KNOW THAT MY SON OR DAUGHTER HAD THE BACKING OF WHO THEY ARE PROTECTING. AND FOR THESE REASONS I WILL ALWAYS SUPPORT OUR POLICE. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU. COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. LIKE I SAID BEFORE, THERE'S NOT ONE PERSON THAT GOES THROUGH THE VETTING TO BECOME A POLICE OFFICER WHO WANTS TO DO SOMETHING WRONG OR TO VIOLATE THE LAW. OVER AND OVER AND OVER WE GO THROUGH THE TRAINING AND IT'S REALLY HARD TO PICK A REGULAR OFFICER TO DO THE JOB. YOU START WITH SOMETIMES 2,000 OFFICERS TO GET ONE. OR A CLASS OF 60. AND THEN FROM THERE, THEY FILTER DOWN. AND IT'S A VERY, VERY DIFFICULT ENDEAVOR AND IT TAKES A LONG TIME TO GET INDIVIDUALS THROUGH THE PROCESS. THE TRAINING IS EXTENSIVE, THE VETTING PROCESS IS EXTENSIVE. AND I GUARANTEE YOU THERE'S NOT ONE PERSON OUT THERE TRYING TO DO THE WRONG THING. MAYBE THEY GET CAUGHT UP LATER ON, MAYBE THERE'S SOME ISSUES THAT HAPPEN. WE'RE HERE TO HELP EVERYONE. ANYONE THAT HAS ANY ISSUE, POLICE OFFICERS ARE THERE TO HELP. AND I THINK IT'S VERY, VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE RECOGNIZE THE FACT THAT WE HAVE A MURDER PROBLEM IN ALBUQUERQUE. AND WE HAVE AN OFFICER HIRING PROBLEM IN ALBUQUERQUE. AND THESE OFFICERS NEED OUR SUPPORT. AND FOR THE ADMINISTRATION TO TAKE A MIDDLE ROAD ON THIS THING IS ABSOLUTELY TELLING THEIR POLICE OFFICERS THAT THEY DON'T SUPPORT THEM. IT'S EXTREMELY SAD THAT WE HAVE AN ADMINISTRATION THAT DOESN'T SUPPORT OUR OFFICERS AND I JUST HOPE THAT AND URGE EVERYONE'S SUPPORT ON THIS BILL AND IF YOU SUPPORT OUR OFFICERS, VOTE YES. >>COUN. BENTON: ALL RIGHT. WE'LL GO TO A VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: NO. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: NO. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: NO. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: NO. >> PASSES ON A 5-4 VOTE. >>COUN. BENTON: ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. WE'RE ON THEALIST ITEM -- LAST ITEM. WE'RE ON ITEM Q. COUNCILOR PEÑA, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, AND COUNCILOR BASSAN. LEGISLATIVE BUDGET PRIORITIES. >>COUN. PEÑA: WANT TO TACKLE IS IT? >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THIS IS ESTABLISHING BUDGET PRIORITIES FOR THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE FOR THE FIRST SESSION OF THE 56th NEW MEXICO STATE LEGISLATURE I MOVE A DUE PASS. >>COUN. BENTON: SECOND FROM COUNCILOR BASSAN. AGAIN, THANKS TO THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE THAT WORKED SO HARD ON PUTTING THE PRIORITIES TOGETHER. ANY DISCUSSION, COUNCILORS? QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. I'LL LEAVE IT TO THE COUNCILORS TO CLOSE. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: I CAN CLOSE IF NO ONE ELSE WANTS TO. I'LL SAY I'M VERY PROUD OF THIS LEGISLATION. WE WORKED REALLY HARD ON IT. I THINK THE END RESULT IS SOMETHING THAT WE ALL AGREE ON. WE CAN REALLY USE AS A TOOL TO BE EFFECTIVE AT THE STATE LEGISLATURE AND I'M VERY PROUD OF IT AND URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. BENTON: ALL RIGHT. WITH THAT, WE'LL GO TO A VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >> THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. BENTON: ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. AND THAT CONCLUDES OUR BUSINESS. I WANT TO WISH EVERYONE A SAFE AND HAPPY HOLIDAY SEASON. AND WE'LL SEE YOU IN THE NEW YEAR. IF NOT SOONER. EVERYONE TAKE CARE.