Based on the context provided and the dialogue within the transcript, here is the formatted version with speaker names identified. [0:21] **Chris Meyer**: GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYONE. HAPPY END OF SESSION FOR EVERYONE WHO CELEBRATING THAT. >> YEP, HAPPY END OF SESSION. >> IT WAS EXHAUSTING. BUT A LOT TO CELEBRATE. WE'LL TALK MORE ABOUT THAT AT THE END OF THE MEETING. BUT WITH THAT I WILL CALL TO ORDER THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION FOR MONDAY, MAY 20TH, 2024. MY NAME IS CHRIS MEYER AND I'M THE CHAIR OF THE MINNEAPOLIS PLANNING COMMISSION. [0:49] **Clerk**: I'LL ASK THE CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL. >> COMMISSIONER BAXLEY. [0:53] **Commissioner Baxley**: HERE. [0:54] **Clerk**: CAMPBELL. [0:55] **Commissioner Campbell**: HERE. [0:56] **Clerk**: CHOWDHURY. [0:58] **Commissioner Chowdhury**: HERE. [1:06] **Clerk**: CONY IS ABSENT. EMERICK IS ABSENT. JONES. [1:10] **Commissioner Jones**: HERE. [1:11] **Clerk**: MEYER. [1:12] **Chris Meyer**: HERE. [1:13] **Clerk**: OLSON. [1:14] **Commissioner Olson**: HERE. [1:15] **Clerk**: THOMPSON. [1:16] **Commissioner Thompson**: HERE. [1:17] **Clerk**: WAGNER. [1:18] **Commissioner Wagner**: HERE. [1:19] **Clerk**: WE HAVE EIGHT MEMBERS PRESENT. [1:20] **Chris Meyer**: THANK YOU. LET THE RECORD SHOW THAT A QUORUM IS PRESENT. WE'LL NOW PROCEED TO THE MINUTES. [1:31] **Chris Meyer**: WE'RE GOING TO DO THE MINUTES FOR MAY 9, 2024, THAT WAS THE JOINT MEETING WITH CLICK. I BELIEVE THE MAY 6 MEETINGS WERE NOT POSTED ONLINE YET AND I KNOW YOU ALL WANTED TO READ THEM CLOSELY SO IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FOR MAY 9, 2024. [1:47] **Commissioner**: SO MOVED. [1:48] **Commissioner**: SECOND. [1:49] **Chris Meyer**: ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. [1:50] **Commissioners**: AYE. [1:51] **Chris Meyer**: OPPOSED, ABSTENTIONS? THAT CARRIES. WE'LL DO THE MAY 6 ONE FOR THE NEXT MEETING. OUR NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS IS TO ORGANIZE THE AGENDA, THEY'RE AVAILABLE ON THE CORNER OVER THERE IF YOU'D LIKE ONE. I'M GOING TO READ THROUGH THE AGENDA NUMBERS AND ADDRESSES AND STATE WHETHER SOMETHING IS DATE FOR CONTENT, CONTINUANCE, RETURN, WITHDRAWAL OR DISCUSSION. AND I'LL EXPLAIN THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE CONSENT AND DISCUSSION ITEMS, CONSENT ITEMS ARE THOSE THAT WILL BE PASSED WITHOUT DISCUSSION BY THE BOARD. [2:25] **Chris Meyer**: WE WILL DO THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION LISTED ON THE AGENDA AND THE ITEM IS RECOMMENDED MOTION SECTION AND IMPORTANTLY ANY APPLICABLE CONDITIONS WILL BE LISTED IN THAT SECTION. IF YOU AGREE WITH THE RECOMMENDATION INCLUDING ANY APPLICABLE CONDITIONS, YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO ANYTHING. THE COMMISSION WILL PASS IT AS RECOMMENDED. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOLLOWING THE DECISION, PLEASE CHECK IN WITH THE STAFF MEMBER ASSIGNED TO THAT ITEM. IF YOU DISAGREE WITH THE RECOMMENDATION PLEASE INDICATE YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK AGAINST THE ITEM WHEN I ASK AND THEN WE CAN PUT THAT ITEM ON THE DISCUSSION AGENDA. SO WITH THAT, THE ITEMS FOR TONIGHT, WE HAVE ITEM NUMBER 4, 670 25TH AVENUE SE, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THAT ITEM FOR CONSENT. IS ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK AGAINST ITEM NUMBER 4? THAT WILL GO ON CONSENT. [3:11] **Chris Meyer**: ITEM NUMBER 5 IS 1315 AND A HALF UNIVERSITY AVENUE AND 1314 AVENUE SOUTHEAST. STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THIS ITEM FOR CONSENT AS WELL. IS ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK AGAINST ITEM NUMBER 5. ON CONSENT. STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THAT WE CONTINUE ITEM NUMBER 6, 828 SPRING STREET NORTHEAST SO WE WILL CONTINUE THAT ITEM FOR ONE CYCLE. FOR NUMBER 7, 2800 TO 2818 27TH AVENUE SOUTH, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THAT ITEM FOR CONSENT. IS ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK AGAINST ITEM NUMBER 7? [4:07] **Chris Meyer**: ALL RIGHT. WE'LL PUT THAT ON CONSENT. FOR NUMBER 8, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THAT WE CONTINUE NUMBER 8 FOR ONE CYCLE SO WE'LL BE CONTINUING THAT. AND WE WILL BE DISCUSSING ITEMS NUMBER 9 AND 10. ALL RIGHT. IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE AGENDA? MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA. [4:36] **Commissioner**: SO MOVED. [4:37] **Commissioner**: SECOND. [4:38] **Chris Meyer**: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. [4:39] **Commissioners**: AYE. [4:40] **Chris Meyer**: OPPOSED? THAT CARRIES. WE'LL FIRST DEAL WITH THE CONTINUANCE ITEMS. SO CONTINUE ITEMS 6 AND 8. [4:55] **Chris Meyer**: CHAIR. WAS ANYONE HERE -- I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR ITEM NUMBER 6, 828 SPRING SHEET STREET NORTHEAST. IF YOU ARE HERE TO SPEAK TO THAT ITEM AND WANTED TO SPEAK TONIGHT, YOU CAN, OTHERWISE YOU CAN ALSO SPEAK AT THE NEXT MEETING. [5:14] **Chris Meyer**: SO IS ANYONE HERE FOR ITEM NUMBER 6, 828 SPRING STREET NORTHEAST? ALL RIGHT. I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR 828 SPRING STREET NORTHEAST. WAS ANYONE HERE -- I'LL OPEN THE HEARING FOR 3100 WEST RIVER PARKWAY SOUTH AND 3105 46TH AVENUE SOUTH AND 47TH AVENUE SOUTH. [5:37] **Chris Meyer**: ITEM NUMBER 8. WAS ANYONE HERE WHO WANTED TO SPEAK TO THAT ITEM NOW? YOU CAN SPEAK NOW OR YOU CAN SPEAK AT THE NEXT ONE. AND I KNOW NUMBER 9 IS ALSO -- NO, THAT'S DIFFERENT. [5:55] **Chris Meyer**: NOT SEEING ANYONE. I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR ITEM NUMBER 8. [6:00] **Kimberly Holien (Planning Manager)**: CHAIR MEYER, I APOLOGIZE, WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE, NORMALLY WE WOULD CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING BUT SINCE WE'RE CONTINUING THE ITEM WE NEED TO LEAVE THAT PUBLIC HEARING OPEN IS MY UNDERSTANDING. [6:12] **Chris Meyer**: OKAY. SO YOU WANT ME TO REOPEN IT AT THE NEXT MEETING? WHAT IS THE PROPER MOTION, TO CONTINUE IT? ALL RIGHT. IS THERE A MOTION TO CONTINUE ITEMS NUMBER 6 AND 8 TO THE NEXT CYCLE? [6:27] **Commissioner Thompson**: CHAIR MEYER, MAY I? I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE ITEM 8 BUT TO THE MEETING OF THE 24TH IF THAT WOULD BE AMENABLE TO MY COLLEAGUES. [6:40] **Chris Meyer**: CAN WE GET STAFF COMMENT ON HOW THAT FITS IN WITH THE TIMELINE? THE 60-DAY REQUIREMENT AND ALL THAT. [6:46] **Kimberly Holien**: I DON'T THINK THAT DATE NECESSARILY WORKS FOR THE APPLICANT SO UNLESS THERE'S A COMPELLING REASON FOR US TO DO THAT, WE TYPICALLY DON'T LIKE TO CONTINUE THINGS FOR MORE THAN ONE CYCLE BECAUSE IT'S EASY FOR THE PUBLIC TO LOSE TRACK OF THOSE ITEMS. I BELIEVE WE SENT OUT ADDITIONAL PUBLIC HEARING PLACARDS FOR A ONE CYCLE CONTINUANCE ON THIS ONE AS WELL. SO I WOULD RECOMMEND ONE CYCLE AT THIS POINT AND IF AFTER AT FOR SOME REASON IT FEELS LIKE AN ADDITIONAL CYCLE IS WARRANTED THEN THAT CAN BE DISCUSSED AT THE NEXT MEETING. [7:21] **Commissioner Thompson**: THANK YOU. [7:23] **Chris Meyer**: ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? [7:25] **Commissioner Thompson**: I'LL BE GONE FOR THE NEXT MEETING SO I JUST... [7:27] **Chris Meyer**: OH, I SEE. ALL RIGHT. I DON'T THINK WE HAVE -- SO. [7:34] **Commissioner**: WHAT'S THE MOTION? [7:36] **Commissioner**: SECONDED SO WE'RE GOOD. [7:38] **Chris Meyer**: WOULD SOMEONE LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE BOTH ITEMS TO THE NEXT CYCLE. [7:40] **Commissioner**: SECOND. [7:41] **Chris Meyer**: ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE? [7:42] **Commissioners**: AYE. [7:43] **Chris Meyer**: OPPOSED AND ABSTENTIONS? THAT CARRIES AND THOSE ITEMS ARE CONTINUED. I WILL OPEN THE HEARING ON THE CONSENT ITEMS WHICH WERE ITEMS 4, 5, AND 7 NOW IS THE OPPORTUNITY IF YOU WANTED TO JUST COMMENT ON THEM, NOT NECESSARILY OPPOSE. WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO SPEAK TO ANY OF OUR CONSENT ITEMS TODAY? [8:10] **Chris Meyer**: NOT SEEING ANY COMMENTS. IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE OUR THREE CONSENT ITEMS? [8:15] **Commissioner**: SO MOVED. [8:16] **Commissioner**: SECOND. [8:17] **Chris Meyer**: ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. [8:18] **Commissioners**: AYE. [8:19] **Chris Meyer**: OPPOSE, ABSTENTIONS? THAT CARRIES. ALL RIGHT. WE'LL NOW MOVE ONTO OUR DISCUSSION ITEMS. FIRST WE HAVE ITEM NUMBER 9, 4200 WEST RIVER PARKWAY. STAFF IS HILLARY DVORAK. [9:09] **Hillary Dvorak (Planner)**: OKAY. I'M HAVING A HARD TIME SEEING IN THIS ROOM, I APOLOGIZE. THE LIGHTING IS MESSING WITH MY EYES, I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE ELSE IS BUT I'M HAVING A REALLY HARD TIME SEEING AND READING THE PAPER. SO GOOD AFTERNOON, I'M HILLARY DVORAK, PLANNER IN CPED. WE ARE HERE TO DISCUSS THE MINNEHAHA ACADEMY SOUTH CAMPUS PARKING LOT APPLICATION FOR THE SITE AT 4200 WEST RIVER PARKWAY. [9:28] **Hillary Dvorak**: TWO MOTIONS BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING. ONE IS A VARIANCE TO INCREASE THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES AND SURFACE PARKING LOT FROM 107 SPACES WHICH THEY ARE GRANDFATHERED FOR THAT NUMBER TO 132 AND THE VARIANTS OF THE PARKING LANDSCAPING AND SCREENING REQUIREMENTS. THE SITE IS LOCATED IN THE UN1 DISTRICT. IT'S IN THE INTERIOR, LOCATED IN THE MISSISSIPPI RIVER CRITICAL AREA OVERLAY DISTRICT. PARKING LOTS ARE PERMITTED AND EXEMPT FROM RULES IN THAT OVERLAY DISTRICT, SO THERE ARE NO IMPLICATIONS TO THE WATER RELATED OVERLAY. [10:24] **Hillary Dvorak**: SO THIS SITE IS LOCATED ON EAST 42nd STREET AND EXTENDS FROM WEST RIVER PARKWAY ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE SITE TO 46TH AVENUE SOUTH. AND IT IS OCCUPIED BY MINNEHAHA ACADEMY, WHICH IS A CHRISTIAN PRIVATE SCHOOL SERVING IN THIS CASE GRADES PRE-K THROUGH 8TH GRADE. YOU CAN SEE THE MAPS IN THE AERIALS ARE DIFFERENT. IT IS LOCATED CLOSE TO WEST RIVER PARKWAY. THERE ARE TENNIS COURTS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SITE. TRACK AND FIELD, FOOTBALL FIELD, PARKING LOT HERE. THIS IS THE BUS TURN AROUND AND THAT PRINCIPLE ENTRANCE INTO THE SCHOOL SITS ABOUT RIGHT HERE IN THE PLAN. [11:08] **Hillary Dvorak**: THEY ARE PROPOSING TO DEMOLISH THE BUS TURN AROUND AREA AND ALSO THE EXISTING PARKING ON THE SITE TO EXPAND THAT. WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING TO DO IS THEY ARE GOING TO BE FILLING IN THE AREA BETWEEN THE PROPERTY LINE AND THE FRONT OF THE SCHOOL WITH LANDSCAPE, GREEN SPACE, THERE WILL BE WALKWAYS. WHAT THEY ARE DESIGNING IS A COMBINED BUS DROP OFF AREA AND SURFACE PARKING LOT. THERE WILL BE TWO SLIP LANES FOR THE BUSES NEAREST 42nd, EACH LANE CAN HANDLE THREE BUSES. [12:15] **Hillary Dvorak**: THERE ARE 132 TOTAL PARKING SPACES LOCATED IN THIS AREA AND THEN ALSO LOCATED DOWN HERE JUST WEST OF THE SCHOOL. MOST OF THESE PARKING SPACES IN THIS LOCATION REMAIN. THERE'S A WALKWAY HERE BETWEEN THE SCHOOL BUILDING AND THE FOOTBALL FIELD THAT STAYS THAT CONNECTS ALL OF THE ACTIVITIES TO THE MAIN SCHOOL BUILDING. IN THE REPORT IT'S REFERENCED THE RAISED CROSSWALK. THERE IS AN UNDERGROUND PIECE OF EQUIPMENT IN THIS LOCATION AND THIS WHITE BOX HERE ON THE PLAN IS THEIR TRASH ENCLOSURE WHICH WAS NOT BEING ALTERED AS PART OF THIS APPLICATION. [13:23] **Hillary Dvorak**: THE TWO CURB CUTS THAT GO TO THE BUS DROP OFF LOCATION WILL BE REMOVED SO THEY'RE GOING FROM THREE TOTAL CURB CUTS ON 42nd DOWN TO TWO. THIS WESTERLY ONE WILL REMAIN AND THEN THIS IS A NEW CURB CUT, IT'S ABOUT 25 FEET WEST OF ITS EXISTING LOCATION. THE ZONING CODE LIMITS THE NUMBER OF SPACES IN THE PARKING LOT TO 100. BECAUSE THERE ARE 107 PARKING SPACES NOW ON THIS SITE THEY ARE GRANDFATHERED FOR THAT NUMBER SO THE VARIANCE THEY ARE SEEKING IS FROM 107 TO 132. [13:59] **Hillary Dvorak**: THE OTHER VARIANTS IN THE LANDSCAPING AND SCREENING REQUIREMENTS OCCURS IN THIS LOCATION. THEY ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE A NINE-FOOT LANDSCAPE BUFFER HERE, AND THEY ARE PROPOSING A 7 FOOT 7 INCH LANDSCAPE BUFFER. THEY ALSO REQUIRE TO HAVE SIX FEET OF LANDSCAPING OR SCREENING IN THIS LOCATION AND THEY ARE SEEKING A VARIANCE OF THOSE TWO LANDSCAPING AND SCREENING REQUIREMENTS. [14:44] **Hillary Dvorak**: CPED DOESN'T BELIEVE THAT CHALLENGES EXIST IN COMPLYING WITH THE ORDINANCE BECAUSE THE CIRCUMSTANCE IS NOT UNIQUE TO THE PROPERTY. THE SUBJECT PROPERTY COULD ACCOMMODATE PARKING IN LIEU OF THE PROPOSED PARKING SPOT ON THE SITE. THE SIZE OF SURFACE PARKING LOTS IS 100 SPACES. THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CALLS FOR LIMITING THE SIZE OF PARKING LOTS. IN TERMS OF REASONABLENESS, THE MAXIMUM PARKING REQUIREMENT FOR A SCHOOL IS ONE SPACE PER 1,000 SQUARE FEET. THE SCHOOL'S APPROXIMATELY 143,000 SQUARE FEET WHICH WOULD HAVE A MAXIMUM PARKING REQUIREMENT OF 143. THEY ARE 11 LESS THAN THAT. [15:47] **Hillary Dvorak**: WE ARE NOT RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE VARIANCE FOR THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES. HOWEVER WE ARE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE VARIANCE FOR THE LANDSCAPING AND SCREENING. WE DON'T THINK THAT IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE TO HAVE 6 FOOT SCREENING ALONG 42nd. THE SAFETY CONCERNS ABOUT KIDS GETTING OUT OF BUSES WHILE THERE'S STAFF ON-SITE—KIDS RUN. FOR ALL THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN TO SCHOOL IN THE MORNING THINGS GET A LITTLE CHAOTIC. IN TERMS OF THE DIMENSION THE 9 FOOT VERSUS THE 7' 7, THERE IS AN 8 FOOT BOULEVARD ALONG 42nd SO THE PUBLIC BOULEVARD ALONG WITH THE 7 FEET 7" EQUATES TO ALMOST 15 OR 16 FEET OF GREEN SPACE. [17:12] **Hillary Dvorak**: TYPICALLY BUSES WILL ONLY BE HERE FOR SHORT PERIODS OF TIME DURING THE PICKUP AND DROP-OFF TIMES. AND THIS SITE IS NOT EXCEEDING THE MAXIMUM ON THIS SITE. SO WE ARE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THAT SECOND VARIANCE BEFORE YOU. AND I WILL STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS. [17:41] **Chris Meyer**: THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. COMMISSIONERS. COMMISSIONER OLSON. [17:45] **Commissioner Olson**: WHO PARKS IN THE PARKING SPACES? IS IT STUDENTS? DO YOU HAVE AN ANSWER TO THAT? [18:03] **Hillary Dvorak**: I HAVE HEARD THAT IT'S ALL OF THE ABOVE, DEPENDING ON THE TIME OF DAY AND THE EVENTS THAT ARE HAPPENING. BUT I WOULD LIKE THE APPLICANT TO ANSWER THAT SPECIFICALLY FOR YOU, COMMISSIONER OLSON. [18:03] **Commissioner Thompson**: THANK YOU. MY ASK SINCE THEY DON'T REACH THE MAXIMUM OF 143 WHY WE WOULD RECOMMEND TO DENY THE VARIANCE FOR THE PARKING. [18:18] **Hillary Dvorak**: BECAUSE THE CITY HAS A DIFFERENT POLICY REQUIREMENT THAT LIMITS THE NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES IN ANY ONE LOT TO 100 SPACES. [18:27] **Commissioner Thompson**: IT'S JUST BECAUSE THAT, THE RECOMMENDATION IS 100 AND SO THAT'S WHY. [18:31] **Hillary Dvorak**: CORRECT. [18:33] **Commissioner Thompson**: AND THIS IS NEW, WITH THE NEW... [18:34] **Hillary Dvorak**: THIS IS A NEW POLICY OF THE REZONING UPDATE TO THE CODE, CORRECT. [18:38] **Kimberly Holien**: THE INTENT OF THAT ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE THAT'S SPECIFICALLY CALLING THE COMP PLAN IS TO LIMIT THE SIZE AND SCALE OF SURFACE PARKING LOTS SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO URBAN HEAT ISLAND, STORMWATER RUNOFF, VISUAL IMPACTS. THE INTENT IS TO REALLY INCENTIVIZE OR REQUIRE STRUCTURED PARKING OR UNDERGROUND PARKING IN SITUATIONS WHERE A USE HAS A MAXIMUM THAT EXCEEDS THE 100 SPACES THAT COULD BE PROVIDED IN A SURFACE LOT. [19:12] **Commissioner Thompson**: I WILL JUST, MEAN THE APPLICANT CAN OBVIOUSLY ANSWER THIS JUST FOR CLARITY, MY SON WENT TO THIS SCHOOL, AND IT'S A K-8. I USED TO TEACH THERE. AND THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE WHO PARK IN THAT LOT DURING THE DAY ARE STAFF. AND THEN OBVIOUSLY THERE'S OVERFLOW INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD FOR EVENTS MOST LIKELY FOOTBALL, TRACK, THAT SORT OF THING. HONESTLY FROM MY OPINION, HAVING GROWN UP IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, THE EXTRA PARKING ACTUALLY ALLEVIATES FOR THE NEIGHBORS ON THE SURFACE STREETS. THANK YOU. [19:51] **Chris Meyer**: THANKS. YEAH. YOU CAN ASK THE APPLICANT WHEN WE GO TO THEM. I'LL ADD ONE OTHER COMMENT ABOUT THE INTENT OF THE HUNDRED SPOT LIMIT. THE IDEA IS ONCE YOU GET THAT BIG, THEN THERE SHOULD BE STRUCTURED PARKING INSTEAD OF SURFACE PARKING BECAUSE SURFACE PARKING HAS A LOT OF NEGATIVE ECOLOGICAL EFFECTS. COMMISSIONER JONES. [20:17] **Commissioner Jones**: YEAH. I JUST HAD A QUESTION. SO EITHER THEY WOULD BE ALLOWED 143 IF THEY HAD A STRUCTURED PARKING OR UNDERGROUND PARKING OR TWO SEPARATE PARKING LOTS, RIGHT, IF THEY HAD TWO PARKING LOTS BUT NOT ALL IN ONE SPACE. [20:38] **Hillary Dvorak**: I BELIEVE THE INTERPRETATION IS THAT'S A HUNDRED TOTAL SPACES ON A ZONING LOT, NOT IN A PARKING LOT. [20:38] **Chris Meyer**: CAN YOU EXPAND ON WHY IT IS THAT PARKING LOTS ARE EXEMPT FROM THE CRITICAL AREA? BECAUSE THAT WAS COUNTERINTUITIVE TO ME. [21:01] **Hillary Dvorak**: THERE'S NO ADDITIONAL REGULATION FOR THEM IN THE PARKING LOT. I GUESS I CAN'T EXPAND FURTHER ON THE EXEMPTION. I JUST LOOKED FOR IT AND KEPT GOING. EXCUSE ME. [21:11] **Chris Meyer**: OKAY. AND THEN IN REGARDS TO THE VARIANCE NUMBER 2, SO IN THE STAFF REPORT IT MENTIONS THE ADA WALKWAY. MY QUESTION IS, SO, IF THAT WERE TO BE DENIED WOULD THE ONLY ALTERNATIVE BE THAT THE SPACE HAS TO BE TAKEN FROM THE WALKWAY OR COULD THE SPACE BE TAKEN FROM PARKING BY HAVING MORE COMPACT SPACES? [21:39] **Hillary Dvorak**: YES. COMMISSIONER OR CHAIRMAN, YES, THANK YOU. AFTER RECEIVING YOUR EMAIL EARLIER TODAY I DID THINK THERE COULD BE A ROW OF SPACES MADE COMPACT. SO YOU WOULD LOSE THAT THREE FEET IN DEPTH AND THEN YOU COULD ACTUALLY FIT EVERYTHING THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING INCLUDING THE 132 SPACES WITHIN THAT. AND THEN STILL GET THE 9 FEET OF LANDSCAPING. THE PINCH POINT HAPPENS RIGHT HERE BECAUSE THERE'S AN UNDERGROUND PIECE OF EQUIPMENT AND THIS ENCLOSURE SO THIS WALKWAY BECOMES PINCHED IF THIS CURB MOVES FURTHER. [22:39] **Chris Meyer**: OKAY. AND THEN IN REGARD TO THE 6 FEET, CAN YOU GO OVER WHAT THE PRACTICAL DIFFICULTY IS SPECIFICALLY FOR THE 6 FEET AT ISSUE? [22:47] **Hillary Dvorak**: RIGHT. JUST FOR URBAN DESIGNING PRINCIPLES, TO HAVE A CONTINUOUS 6 FOOT HEDGE HERE WHEN YOU'VE GOT CARS COMING IN AND VEHICLES LEAVING—TO HAVE 6 FOOT SCREENING HERE JUST FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD SEEMS SCARY BECAUSE YOU WANT TO BE ABLE TO SEE AROUND. IT IS A FRONT YARD IF YOU WILL BECAUSE THERE ARE HOUSES ACROSS 42nd THAT FACE THE STREET. SO TO HAVE A 3 FOOT SCREEN WITH TREES FELT MORE APPROPRIATE FOR URBAN DESIGN PURPOSES. [24:23] **Chris Meyer**: THANK YOU. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS BEFORE WE MOVE ONTO PUBLIC? [24:28] **Commissioner Chowdhury**: SORRY. I HAVE A REALLY QUICK QUESTION. CAN YOU CLARIFY YOUR RESPONSE TO COMMISSIONER MEYER'S QUESTION ABOUT COMPACT CARS? I WANT TO CLARIFY WHAT I HEARD: IF THEY CREATE COMPACT PARKING SPOTS IT ALLOWS THEM TO INCREASE THE TOTAL NUMBER OF PARKING SPOTS? [24:49] **Kimberly Holien**: AS HILLARY'S POINTING THAT OUT, WE TYPICALLY DON'T LIKE TO REDESIGN SITES FOR APPLICANTS. THEY WOULD NEED TO COME UP WITH ABOUT TWO AND A HALF FEET OF ADDITIONAL SPACE. OPTIONS INCLUDE ELIMINATING PARKING, MAKING ONE ROW COMPACT, OR MOVING THE PEDS WALKWAY. MAKING SPACES COMPACT WOULDN'T ALLOW FOR ADDITIONAL PARKING; IT WOULD ALLOW FOR ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPED YARD. [25:26] **Commissioner Chowdhury**: SO IT WOULDN'T SOLVE THE TOTAL NUMBER OF PARKING SPOT PROBLEM WE'RE FACING TODAY? [25:31] **Kimberly Holien**: IT WOULD ONLY SOLVE THE LANDSCAPE YARD PROBLEM. [25:35] **Commissioner Chowdhury**: THANKS. [25:42] **Chris Meyer**: ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER BAXLEY. [25:45] **Commissioner Baxley**: MAKE THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN THE BUS BYPASS VERSUS THE PARKING LOT PROPER IN TERMS OF WHERE SCREENING SHOULD GO. [26:02] **Hillary Dvorak**: IT'S CONSIDERED THE LOADING AREA. SO THE RULES ARE FOR PARKING AND LOADING. SINCE WE'RE LOADING KIDS ON AND OFF THE BUSES IT'S MORE OF A SHORT-TERM LOADING ZONE. [26:28] **Commissioner Baxley**: THE REAL SCREENING WORK IS HAPPENING ON THAT THIRD ISLAND THAT CAPTURES THE PARKING. [26:34] **Hillary Dvorak**: YEAH. THE RULES APPLY UP HERE AT THE STREET, THAT FIRST SEVEN TO NINE FEET WHERE THE LANDSCAPE YARD IS REQUIRED. THE SHRUB THEY'VE PROPOSED DOES GROW TALLER THAN 3 FEET. I ASSUME THEY'RE GOING TO BE MAINTAINED. I ASSUME THAT GIVEN IT'S A SCHOOL AND CHILDREN THAT THEY'LL BE TRIMMING THE HEDGE DOWN TO MAINTAIN THOSE SIGHT LINES. [27:41] **Chris Meyer**: SO YOU SAID THE REQUIREMENT WAS 9 FEET? [27:44] **Hillary Dvorak**: CORRECT. AND SO THE VARIANCE IS FOR 7 FEET 7 INCHES. [27:54] **Chris Meyer**: YEAH, SO IT WOULD BE 1' 5" THAT THEY WOULD NEED ADDITIONAL SPACE. [28:15] **Chris Meyer**: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? IS THE APPLICANT HERE TO SPEAK TO THE ITEM? YES, THEY ARE. COME ON UP. I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. TELL US YOUR NAME AND NEIGHBORHOOD FOR THE RECORD. [28:19] **Donna Harris (President, Minnehaha Academy)**: GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS DONNA HARRIS, I'M THE PRESIDENT OF MINNEHAHA ACADEMY AND I'VE SERVED IN THAT ROLE FOR 15 YEARS. MY COMMENTS WILL BE FOCUSED ON THE VARIANCE TO INCREASE THE NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES FROM 107 TO 132. FIRST, IT'S A LOWER MIDDLE SCHOOL SO STUDENTS AREN'T DRIVING; IT'S THE FACULTY AND STAFF. AND IN TERMS OF THE CONVERSATION, WE CAN CREATE COMPACT PARKING SPACES TO ADHERE TO THE NINE FOOT CODE. [29:22] **Donna Harris**: MINNEHAHA HAS BEEN LOCATED AT 4200 WEST RIVER PARKWAY FOR MORE THAN 40 YEARS BUT THE CITY PROJECT TO FULLY RECONSTRUCT 42nd STREET IN NOVEMBER OF 2021 DRASTICALLY NARROWED 42nd STREET. IN ADDITION TO REMOVING 59 STREET PARKING SPACES, THIS PROJECT CREATED SIGNIFICANT TRAFFIC CONGESTION AND SAFETY CONCERNS. OUR PARKING LOT IS FULL EVERY SINGLE DAY. WE HAVE 103 FACULTY, STAFF, AND ADMINISTRATORS. IN ADDITION WE HAVE VOLUNTEERS AND CUSTODIAL STAFF. [31:15] **Donna Harris**: FOLLOWING THE COMPLETION OF THE ANDERSON PROJECT, MINNEHAHA DEPLOYED ADDITIONAL STAFF TO DIRECT TRAFFIC. AND THEN WE MOVED TO HIRE UNIFORMED POLICE OFFICERS AT A SIGNIFICANT COST. AND NOW THE THIRD WAY TO ADDRESS THE CONCERNS IS THIS PARKING LOT DROP-OFF FOR BUSES TO RELIEVE THE CONGESTION. I SUBMIT THAT NOT ALL SCHOOLS HAVE EXPERIENCED A SIGNIFICANT WORSENING OF DEMANDS DUE TO A CITY PROJECT THAT REMOVED 59 ON-STREET PARKING SPACES. I'D LIKE TO NOW INVITE CAROL WHO WILL SPEAK TO THE FINDINGS. [34:01] **Carol Lansing (Attorney)**: GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONERS. I'M CAROL LANSING, AN ATTORNEY WORKING WITH MINNEHAHA. MINNEHAHA ACADEMY IS A REGIONAL SCHOOL; IT DRAWS PEOPLE FROM AROUND THE AREA. THERE'S LIMITED PUBLIC TRANSIT OPTIONS. THE SCHOOL CAMPUS DOES HAVE A PRE-K, SO PARENTS HAVE TO PARK AND WALK THE KIDS IN. THE PARKING LOT IS LOCATED INTERIOR TO THE SITE. THE NEW LANDSCAPING WILL BE ENHANCED WITH 23 NEW TREES. AND THE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT SYSTEM IS GOING TO BE REPLACED AND IMPROVED. [36:31] **Chris Meyer**: THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS FROM COMMISSIONERS? [36:46] **Commissioner Thompson**: I DON'T HAVE AN ADDITIONAL QUESTION. I JUST WOULD LOVE TO GIVE A COMMENTARY. MINNEHAHA IS TRYING TO SOLVE SOMETHING THE CITY CREATED. PEOPLE ARE PARKING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. I SUPPORT THIS EVEN THOUGH STAFF RECOMMENDS WE DENY IT BECAUSE I KNOW IT ALLEVIATES WHAT'S HAPPENED TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. [38:19] **Chris Meyer**: HILLARY, DO YOU HAVE THE LETTER THAT I REFERENCED? IN THE TESTIMONY THERE WAS A LETTER FROM MATTHEW KUZMAN. THEY CHARGE THE PARENTS FOR USING BUSES BUT PROVIDE THE PARKING WITHOUT CHARGING STAFF. IS THAT CORRECT THAT THERE'S A CHARGE FOR THE BUS? [39:28] **Donna Harris**: WE DO NOT REQUIRE FACULTY STAFF TO PAY FOR PARKING. WE ARE CHARGED FOR BUSING. WE SUBSIDIZE EVERY FAMILY THAT USES THE BUS SYSTEM AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS. FAMILIES WHO JUST PAID THE TUITION CAN'T PAY THE THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS MORE FOR BUSING. PARENTS OF PRESCHOOL FAMILIES BY STATE LAW MUST PARK AND WALK THEIR STUDENTS INTO THE SCHOOL. [42:31] **Chris Meyer**: THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS FROM COMMISSIONERS? NOT SEEING ANYONE. WE CAN NOW TAKE QUESTIONS FROM OTHER PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE. [43:07] **Adrian Thompson (Neighbor)**: THANK YOU. MY NAME IS ADRIAN THOMPSON. I'M RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET ON BURTON LANE. IF THE PARKING LOT PRIMARILY SERVES AS A ZONE FOR THE FACULTY TO PARK IN, THAT DOES NOT ALLEVIATE THE BURDEN ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD FROM THE PARENTS COMING IN DURING THE DAY WHICH IS WHERE MANY MEMBERS HAVE PROBLEMS GETTING BLOCKED IN THEIR DRIVEWAY. I DON'T SEE HOW AN EXTRA 20 PARKING SPACES IS GOING TO CHANGE ANYTHING FUNDAMENTALLY. [44:37] **Chris Meyer**: THANK YOU. SEEING NO ONE ELSE, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. COMMISSIONERS, WE HAVE TWO VARIANCE REQUESTS BEFORE US. COMMISSIONER OLSON. [44:40] **Commissioner Olson**: THANK YOU. I AGREE WITH THE PERSON WHO JUST TESTIFIED. THE BUSING ISSUE ISN'T THE PARKING ISSUE. I FULLY SUPPORT THE BUS DROP-OFF IMPROVEMENTS BUT I THINK ADDING PARKING SPACES MAY ACTUALLY MAKE YOUR TRAFFIC PROBLEM WORSE. I'LL BE SUPPORTING THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION. [44:55] **Commissioner Baxley**: YEAH. I TEND TO AGREE. IT'S AN EXTRA 25 SPOTS. I DIDN'T NECESSARILY HEAR THAT THERE WAS A PARKING PROBLEM WITH 107. I WILL BE SUPPORTING THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION. [46:11] **Chris Meyer**: FOR ME I SUPPORT THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION FOR ITEM NUMBER 1. BUT FOR ITEM NUMBER 2, I BELIEVE WE SHOULD SEPARATE THAT VARIANCE OUT INTO TWO DIFFERENT ONES, BECAUSE WE HEARD FROM THE APPLICANT THAT THEY COULD MAKE THE SPACES COMPACT AND COMPLY WITH THE NINE FOOT BARRIER. I AM PERSUADED WITH MOVING FROM THE 6 FOOT BARRIER DOWN TO 3. [47:48] **Commissioner Chowdhury**: CHAIR MEYER, FIRST OFF WANT TO EXTEND MY GRATITUDE TO PRESIDENT HARRIS FOR REACHING OUT. I AM INCLINED TO SUPPORT THE RECOMMENDATION ON THE LANDSCAPING AND SCREENING REQUIREMENTS. AS FOR THE VARIANCE TO INCREASE PARKING SPACES, STAFF POSED PRETTY COMPELLING ARGUMENTS. I'M INCLINED TO AGREE WITH STAFF ON DENIAL AT THIS TIME. WE ARE TRYING TO INCENTIVIZE BY 2030 THAT 60% OF TRIPS ARE DONE BY BIKE, PED OR TRANSIT. [51:09] **Kimberly Holien**: I HAVE A SIMILAR WAY TO FIX VARIANCE B. YOU COULD JUST CHANGE THE FIRST CONDITION OF APPROVAL FOR B1 THAT SAYS INSTEAD OF 7 FEET JUST SAY 9 FEET AND THAT MATCHES. [51:55] **Chris Meyer**: OKAY. COMMISSIONER JONES. [52:02] **Commissioner Jones**: THANK YOU. I REALLY SUPPORT US, I'M GOING TO SUPPORT THE STAFF ON THIS. I DO WANT US TO THINK ABOUT... I'M ON A BLOCK WHERE I HAVE TWO CHURCHES AND A SCHOOL AND THE PARKING SPILLOVER IS QUITE INTENSE. I'D LIKE US TO CONTINUE THE CONVERSATION ABOUT HOW DO WE CREATIVELY SUPPORT TRANSIT AND RECOGNIZE THE IMPACT OF PARKING ON COMMUNITIES. [54:05] **Commissioner Thompson**: THANK YOU. AND I WOULD LIKE TO APOLOGIZE FOR SPEAKING OUT OF TURN BEFORE. I CAN READ THE ROOM, I'M ON THE LOSING END OF THESE THINGS. MY DESIRE WITH ALLOWING THE VARIANCE FOR A IS NOT EVEN ON THE SCHOOL'S BEHALF; IT'S ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S BEHALF. IT'S REALLY A BURDEN ON THE NEIGHBORS. [55:55] **Commissioner Wagner**: THANK YOU, CHAIR MEYER. I HAVE A COMMENT AND A QUESTION ABOUT ITEM B. I THINK WE SHOULD BE CAUTIOUS ABOUT THE UNINTENDED SIDE EFFECTS OF REDUCING THAT OR DENYING THE 7 FEET 7 INCH. I WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE OF 9 FEET AS LONG AS IT DOESN'T PINCH THE SIDEWALK. [58:12] **Commissioner Campbell**: I AM GOING TO ATTEMPT TO MOVE US ALONG HERE AND MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT STAFF RECOMMENDATION FOR THIS REPORT, INCLUDING AN AMENDED PORTION OF ITEM B NUMBER 1 TO READ THE LANDSCAPED YARD LOCATED BETWEEN THE PARKING AND LOADING AREA AT THE PROPERTY LINE ALONG EAST 42nd STREET SHALL BE 9 FEET. [58:43] **Commissioner**: SECOND. [59:08] **Clerk**: COMMISSIONER BAXLEY. (AYE). CAMPBELL. (AYE). CHOWDHURY. (AYE). JONES. (AYE). OLSON. (AYE). THOMPSON. (NAY). WAGNER. (AYE). MEYER. (AYE). THAT'S SEVEN AYES AND ONE NAY. [59:39] **Chris Meyer**: THAT IS ADOPTED. THANK YOU. I WILL NOW MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER 10, 2601 MINNEHAHA AVENUE. [1:00:03] **Andrew Liska (Planner)**: GOOD EVENING, PRESIDENT MEYER AND COMMISSIONERS. I'M ANDREW LISKA, PLANNER WITH CPED. BEFORE YOU TODAY ARE SEVERAL APPLICATIONS TO ALLOW AN ADDITION TO AN EXISTING RELIGIOUS ASSEMBLY USE AND THE CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW PARISH HOUSE AT 2601 MINNEHAHA AVENUE. THE PROPERTY'S DEVELOPED WITH AN EXISTING SINGLE STORY BUILDING CONSTRUCTED IN 1993. THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO CONSTRUCT A NEW TWO STORY ADDITION TO THE SOUTH. THEY ARE PROPOSING TO CONSTRUCT A NEW TWO-STORY PARISH HOUSE TO THE EAST OF THE BUILDING. [1:01:27] **Andrew Liska**: THEY PROPOSE TO EXPAND THE EXISTING SURFACE PARKING LOT FROM 81 SPACES TO 129 SPACES. THE FIRST VARIANCE IS TO REDUCE THE MINIMUM FLOOR AREA RATIO (FAR). THIS PROPERTY IS IN THE TRANSIT 10 BUILT FORM DISTRICT WHICH HAS A MINIMUM FAR OF 1.0. THE SECOND IS TO INCREASE THE MAXIMUM PARKING REQUIREMENT. THE MAXIMUM FOR THESE USES IN THE TRANSIT 10 IS 66 STALLS. THEY ARE SEEKING TO GO TO 131. THE THIRD VARIANCE IS TO INCREASE THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF SURFACE STALLS FROM 100 TO 129. [1:03:59] **Andrew Liska**: FOR THE FAR VARIANCE, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL. FOR THE VARIANANCE TO MAXIMUM PARKING STAFF IS RECOMMENDING A PARTIAL APPROVAL. THIS AREA IS PRETTY DIFFERENT FROM MOST PARTS OF THE CITY THAT ARE TRANSIT 10. IT HAS NO RESIDENTIAL POPULATION AND POOR PEDESTRIAN ENVIRONMENT. STAFF IS SUPPORTIVE OF AN INCREASE TO 102 STALLS. FOR THE VARIANCE TO THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF SURFACE STALLS STAFF IS RECOMMENDING DENIAL. THE SITE COULD ACCOMMODATE STRUCTURED OR ENCLOSED PARKING. [1:08:17] **Chris Meyer**: THANK YOU. QUESTIONS FROM COMMISSIONERS. COMMISSIONER CAMPBELL. [1:08:21] **Commissioner Campbell**: I'VE GOT SOME COGNITIVE DISSONANCE ON THIS. CAN YOU WALK ME THROUGH VARIANCE B AND VARIANCE C? IF WE HAVE A MAXIMUM NUMBER OF PARKING STALLS ON A ZONING LOT AT 100, HOW WE WOULD RECOMMEND THAT THEY COULD HAVE 102 PARKING SPOTS? [1:09:16] **Andrew Liska**: THEY HAVE TWO ENCLOSED PARKING STALLS WITH THE PARISH HOUSE. SO APPROVING A VARIANCE TO INCREASE TO 102 PARKING STALLS WOULD ALLOW 100 SURFACE STALLS PLUS THE TWO STALLS IN THE ATTACHED GARAGE. [1:10:43] **Commissioner Campbell**: I SEE. [1:13:45] **Commissioner Chowdhury**: UNDERSTANDING SOME OF THE NUANCES HERE: IF THEY HAD RESOURCES TO BUILD A CAPACITY FOR AN ADDITIONAL WHATEVER IT IS ABOVE AND BEYOND THE HUNDRED SPACE SURFACE LOT, THAT WOULD BE ALLOWED UP TO 131? [1:14:05] **Andrew Liska**: COMMISSIONER, AS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF. [1:15:01] **Chris Meyer**: THE WAY YOU'VE DESCRIBED THE VARIANCE THAT YOU ARE RECOMMENDING GRANTING, HOW APPLICABLE WOULD THAT BE THROUGHOUT THE CITY? [1:15:21] **Andrew Liska**: THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. THERE ARE NOT VERY MANY. THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE CITY THAT HAS TRANSIT OR CORE BUILT FORM ZONING ARE AREAS THAT ARE DIRECTLY FRONTING HIGH FREQUENCY TRANSIT. IN THIS CASE, IT IS .6 MILES TO THE NEAREST HIGH FREQUENCY TRANSIT. [1:17:44] **Commissioner Thompson**: SORRY. THANK YOU. WE'RE GOING FROM 81 TO 102 FOR SURFACE PARKING, CORRECT? [1:18:21] **Andrew Liska**: 129 IS WHAT THEY HAVE PROPOSED. THEY CURRENTLY HAVE 81. STAFF IS RECOMMENDING 100 SURFACE PLUS THE TWO ENCLOSED FOR 102 TOTAL. [1:20:15] **Commissioner Baxley**: THANK YOU. YOU WOULD ACTUALLY ACCEPT 132 STRUCTURED SPOTS? [1:20:36] **Andrew Liska**: THAT'S NOT WHAT'S BEFORE US BUT THAT'S CONSISTENT WITH STAFF RECOMMENDATION. IF THEY WANTED TO DO THAT THEY WOULD NEED TO APPLY FOR A NEW SITE PLAN REVIEW. [1:21:54] **Chris Meyer**: I WILL NOW OPEN PUBLIC HEARING. TELL US YOUR NAME AND NEIGHBORHOOD. [1:22:09] **Bayu Haile (Parish Council)**: THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY. MY NAME IS BAYU. WE ACQUIRED THIS BUILDING 2014, A WAREHOUSE, AND WE TURNED IT INTO A SANCTUARY. WE STILL HAVE ABOUT 600 MEMBERS AND ABOUT 100 CHILDREN. NOW WE DOUBLED EVERYTHING. NOW ONE OF THE BIGGEST PARKING LOTS WE WORKED TOGETHER WITH IS NOW THE POLICE PRECINCT FOR THAT. SO WE ARE LOSING ABOUT 60 TO 70 PARKING STALLS IN THAT AREA. WE HAVE BEEN EXPERIENCING A LOT OF CRIMES OVER THE PAST ONE YEAR. CARS BEING JACKED. WE WANT YOUR CONSIDERATIONS FOR THIS VARIANCE. [1:27:41] **John Hink (Environmental Project Manager)**: MR. CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION, MY NAME IS JOHN HINK. I'M THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROJECT MANAGER FOR THE CHURCH. THIS PROPERTY HAS A UNIQUE BURDEN: IT IS CONTAMINATED WITH ARSENIC FROM THE FORMER PESTICIDE FACILITY. THIS SITE NEEDS TO BE REMEDIATED. THE REMEDIAL ACTION THAT THE DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE IS RECOMMENDING IS TO CAP THE EXISTING ARSENIC CONTAMINATED SOILS WITH AN IMPERVIOUS SURFACE. WE HAVE TO CAP THAT GREEN AREA TO THE EAST FOR ENVIRONMENTAL REASONS. [1:32:04] **Commissioner Campbell**: I'M NOT TRACKING THE CONNECTION BETWEEN ARSENIC REMEDIATION AND PARKING. [1:32:09] **John Hink**: IT'S A REMEDIAL CAP AS ITS PRIMARY USE, AND THEN WE GET TO PARK ON IT SOMETIMES. [1:32:33] **Commissioner Olson**: I GUESS I'M WANTING TO HEAR FROM STAFF OR UNDERSTAND BETTER WHAT CAPPING ARSENIC LOOKS LIKE. [1:33:07] **John Hink**: THIS IS THE 131 STALLS. I'D LIKE ONE OF THE CONSULTANTS TO EXPLAIN IT MORE THOROUGHLY. [1:36:34] **Shannon (Landmark Environmental)**: COUNCIL, THIS IS MY COWORKER ELLEN. SHANNON, WE ARE WITH THE COMPANY CALLED LANDMARK ENVIRONMENTAL. WE HAVE BORINGS THROUGHOUT THE PROPERTY. BECAUSE IT'S USED AS A CHURCH THEY CONSIDER IT A RESIDENTIAL USE. SO THEY HAVE TO MEET MUCH LOWER STANDARDS FOR CLEANUP. THE CHURCH IS FACED WITH EITHER DIGGING UP AND HAULING A LARGE AMOUNT OF SOIL TO THE LANDFILL OR POTENTIALLY CAPPING THE EASTERN PORTION WITH THIS NEW LOT. IT AMOUNTS TO ABOUT 6,000 TONS OF SOIL AT A COST OF ABOUT $300,000. [1:42:44] **Chris Meyer**: THANK YOU. WAS THERE ANYONE ELSE HERE TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM? ALL RIGHT. I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. I'M GOING TO GO TO MYSELF FIRST. MY PROPOSAL WOULD BE TO JUST FULLY DENY ITEM B. THE 81 SPOTS IS ALREADY IN EXCESS. I THINK THAT POLICIES THAT BRING MORE CARS TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD BE EXACERBATING THE MANY DIFFERENT CUMULATIVE IMPACTS OF POLLUTION THAT ARE ALREADY THERE. [1:48:42] **Commissioner Thompson**: THANK YOU SO MUCH, CHAIR MEYER. I REALLY AM SENSITIVE TO THE IDEA OF A LARGELY IMMIGRANT COMMUNITY PROBABLY COMING IN FAMILY UNITS FROM A LONG DISTANCE. I DON'T WANT TO BE THE ONE WHO MAKES THAT RECOMMENDATION FOR WHAT IS BEST FOR THEIR FAMILIES. I WOULD STICK WITH STAFF RECOMMENDATION. [1:51:25] **Commissioner Campbell**: I DON'T FEEL LIKE I HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION TO VOTE ON THIS. I'D LIKE TO MOTION TO CONTINUE TO THE NEXT CYCLE. [1:51:58] **Kimberly Holien**: WE CANNOT MEET THE STATUTORY REQUIREMENT ON THE 60-DAY LAW WITHOUT GETTING A VOLUNTARY EXTENSION FROM THE APPLICANT. [1:53:17] **Commissioner Jones**: THANK YOU. I REALLY APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT THIS BASIC PRIVATE ORGANIZATION IS TAKING IT UPON THEMSELVES TO DO REMEDIATION. I DO THINK THIS IS A UNIQUE SITUATION WITH THE ARSENIC. I WOULD APPROVE THE 102 SPOTS. [1:56:03] **Commissioner Olson**: I AGREE WITH YOU, CHAIR MEYER. USING SURFACE PARKING AS A CHEAPER OPTION TO CAP ANY TYPE OF GROUND CONTAMINATION ISN'T A GOOD REASON FOR US TO APPROVE A VARIANCE. [1:58:16] **Commissioner Chowdhury**: THANK YOU, CHAIR MEYER. I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY WITH MS. HOLIEN. WE WOULD ONLY BE ABLE TO CONTINUE THIS IF THE APPLICANT WAS WILLING TO DO A VOLUNTARY CONTINUANCE. [2:02:16] **Andrew Liska**: PRESIDENT, COMMISSIONERS THE APPLICANT HAS JUST AGREED TO EXTEND THE REVIEW PERIOD TO SEPTEMBER 1. [2:03:09] **Commissioner Campbell**: SO I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE TO THE NEXT CYCLE. [2:04:13] **Commissioner Thompson**: SECOND. [2:14:11] **Clerk**: COMMISSIONER BAXLEY. (AYE). CAMPBELL. (AYE). CHOWDHURY. (AYE). JONES. (AYE). OLSON. (NO). THOMPSON. (AYE). WAGNER. (AYE). MEYER. (NO). THAT'S SIX AYES AND TWO NAYS. [2:14:11] **Chris Meyer**: THAT CARRIES. AND THE ITEM WILL BE CONTINUED TO OUR JUNE 10TH MEETING. ANNOUNCEMENTS. KIMBERLY. [2:14:37] **Kimberly Holien**: YES. LAST MONDAY THE STATE COURT OF APPEALS ISSUED A DECISION REVERSING THE INJUNCTION ON THE 2040 PLAN. AND THEN YESTERDAY THE STATE LEGISLATURE APPROVED A COMP PLAN CLARITY BILL THAT ESSENTIALLY STATES THAT CITIES OF THE FIRST CLASS DON'T NEED TO COMPLETE ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEWS ON THEIR COMPREHENSIVE PLANS. THE 2040 PLAN IS BACK IN PLACE. [2:17:28] **Chris Meyer**: WELL, THANK YOU, KIMBERLY. OUR NEXT FULL MEETING WILL BE ON MONDAY, JUNE 10. OUR MEETING IS ADJOURNED.