>>> GOOD MORNING, THE FEBRUARY 5th FINANCE NATIVE COMMUNITIES AND TRIBAL GOVERNMENTS COMMITTEE COMES ORDER. >> COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE. COUNCILMEMBER SACCA. VICE CHAIR RIVERA. CHAIR STRAUSS. >> PRESENT. AND COUNCIL PRESIDENT ALSO. >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT NELSON. >> PRESENT. >> I'M GOING TO STALL FOR JUST A SECOND BECAUSE I THINK COUNCILMAN KETTLE MIGHT BE IN THE WAITING ROOM? ALL RIGHT. >> FOUR PRESENT. TWO EXCUSED. >> THANK YOU. WE HAVE ONE BRIEFING ON THE AGENDA TODAY. THAT IS THE TRIBAL COMMUNITY GOVERNMENT'S WORK PLAN. BEFORE WE BEGIN IF THERE IS NO OBJECTION, THE AGENDA WILL BE ADOPTED. HEARING NO OBJECTION. THE AGENDA IS ADOPTED. OUT THE GATE, THE CHAIR'S REPORT, I WANT TO WELCOME COUNCILMEMBER SAKA. WE ARE EXCITED TO HAVE YOU AND YOU ARE JUST IN TIME AS WE COVER THE WORK PROGRAM FOR THIS COMING YEAR IN THIS COMMITTEE. LAST YEAR IN THIS COMMITTEE, WE DEPARTED FROM NORMS USING THE SELECT BUDGET COMMITTEE STARTING IN APRIL AND MOVING ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE YEAR WITH THE MAJORITY OF BUDGET RELATED LEGISLATION COMING TO THAT COMMITTEE AND IT MET VERY OFTEN. TODAY WE WILL REVIEW THE PROPOSED WORK PLAN THAT DIVIDES THE WORK BETWEEN FINANCE NATIVE COMMUNITIES AND TRIBAL GOVERNMENTS. AND SELECT BUDGETS. WE WILL HAVE SOME DISCUSSION POINTS AT THE END ABOUT WHICH COMMITTEE SOME OF THESE DIFFERENT PIECES OF LEGISLATION COME INTO. WE DO NEED TO END AT 10:30 A.M. AT THE LATEST TO ACCOMMODATE A FULL DAY OF COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. WE WANT THE RECORD TO REFLECT VICE CHAIR RIVERA IS PRESENT. GOOD MORNING. AND IMPRESSIVE WITH ALL THE SCHOOLS STARTING LATE TODAY. WE WERE ONLY FOUR MINUTES LATE TODAY. SO NICE WORK. WITH THAT, WE WILL NOW OPEN THE HYBRID PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD. PUBLIC COMMENTS SHOULD RELATE TO THE AGENDA. HOW MANY SPEAKERS DO WE HAVE. >> WE HAVE ZERO IN-PERSON SPEAKERS SIGNED UP AND THERE IS ONE REMOTE SPEAKER. >> WONDERFUL. THANK YOU. EACH SPEAKER WILL HAVE TWO MINUTES. WE WILL START WITH IN-PERSON SPEAKERS FIRST. THERE ARE NONE. AND WE WILL MOVE TO THE ONLINE PUBLIC COMMENT. I WILL READ THE PUBLIC COMMENT INSTRUCTIONS. UP TO 20 MINUTES SPEAKERS WILL BE CALLED IN THE ORDER IN WHICH THEY ARE REGISTERED. WE WILL BEGIN WITH THE IN-PERSON SPEAKERS, MOVE TO REMOTE. SPEAKERS WILL HEAR A CHIME WHEN THEY ARE 10 SECONDS AWAY. THEIR MICROPHONES WILL BE MUTED IF THEY DON'T END. I SEE JAKE BONUS, WE WILL TAKE JUST A MOMENT TO SEE IF WE CAN'T GIVE YOU, WE SEE YOU ARE PRESENT NOW. AND I SEE YOU ARE IN THE ROOM. IF YOU WANT TO PRESS STAR 6 JAKE. >> HELLO? >> GOOD MORNING! HOW ARE YOU? >> GOOD MORNING! YEAH. I'M HERE. >> WE'LL START THE TIME WHEN EVER YOU WANT. >> OKAY. THANK YOU. HELLO. MY NAME IS JAKE, I'M A RESIDENT OF DISTRICT 2 AND CALLING IN FROM BEACON HILL THIS MORNING. I WOULD LIKE TO ASK CHAIR STRAUSS AND THE COMMITTEE TO PLEASE INCLUDE DUAMISH TRIBAL SERVICES IN THE UPCOMING TRIBAL NATION SUMMIT. TWO YEARS AGO WAS THE INAUGURAL TRIBAL NATION SUMMIT AND THE DUWAMISH TRIBE WASN'T INCLUDED. YOU CAN CHANGE THE RULES TO MAKE IT INCLUSIVE SO THAT NATIVE COMMUNITIES ARE NOT BEING ACTIVELY EXCLUDED. SO, I HOPE YOU WILL DO THIS SO THAT DUWAMISH TRIBAL SERVICES CAN ATTEND. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, JAKE. WE WILL NOW MOVE ON AS WE HAVE NO FURTHER SPEAKERS REMOTELY OR PHYSICALLY PRESENT, THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD IS NOW CLOSED. MOVING ONTO THE FIRST AGENDA ITEM. CLERK, WILL YOU READ THE SHORT TITLE INTO THE RECORD? INFORMATION ITEM FOR FINANCE NATIVE COMMUNITIES AND TRIBAL GOVERNMENTS WORK PLAN FOR BRIEFING AND DISCUSSION. PRESENTERS ARE DEPUTY DIRECTOR YOLANDA HO AND EDIN SISIC OF CENTRAL STAFF. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE HAVE DEPUTY DIRECTOR HO WITH US TODAY AND EDIN AND WE HAVE A SHORT PRESENTATION THAT GETS TO THE MEAT OF THIS WORK. I WOULD SAY WHY DON'T WE LET THEM GO ALL THE WAY THROUGH AND WE GO BACK TO THE TOP SO WE HAVE A FULL VIEW OF WHAT WE ARE DOING AND I HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL COMMENTS ALREADY AS WELL. WITH THAT, OVER TO YOU, EDIN. AND YOUR MICROPHONE IS ON MUTE AS WELL. >> CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? >> YES, YES WITH. >> GOOD MORNING. I'M EDIN SISIC WITH COUNCIL CENTRAL STAFF. AND AS THE COMMITTEE COORDINATOR, I'M GOING TO GO OVER WHAT YOU MIGHT EXPECT TO SEE OVER THE COMING YEAR. IN BOTH FINANCE AND TRAVEL GOVERNMENTS, A SELECT BUDGET COMMITTEE. SO THIS FIRST SLIDE HERE LISTS OUT A LOT OF THE ITEMS THAT YOU MIGHT EXPECT TO SEE IN THE NEXT OVER THE COMING YEAR. AND IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF SLIDES TO FOLLOW, I'LL BREAK DOWN WHAT IS COMING AND IT WILL BE A GOOD WAY TO TEE UP A DISCUSSION POINT ON THE LAST SLIDE ABOUT HOW WE APPROACH THIS WORK. AND WHICH COMMITTEE BELONGS WHAT. SO BRIEFLY GOING OVER THE LIST, ONE OF THE FIRST PIECES OF LEGISLATION YOU WILL SEE IS THE TRANSPORTATION LEVY PROVISO LIFT. WE PROVISOD ANYTHING ABOUT $90 MILLION UNTIL SDOT PROVIDED THEIR FUNDING PLAN AND THEY DID. THAT WILL BE IN MARCH. ALSO IN MARCH, THERE WILL BE AN FAS DIRECTOR APPOINTMENT ON THE AGENDA AS WELL AND I WON'T GO THROUGH ALL OF THESE ITEMS ON THIS LIST. THEY WILL COME IN AT LATER SLIDES BUT IF YOU SEE THE THIRD SLIDE, THE VARIOUS FAS AND OFFICE OF FINANCE LEGISLATION THAT INCLUDES THINGS LIKE SMC UPDATES TO REFLECT CHANGES IN WASHINGTON STATE LAW. ANIMAL CODE UPDATES, FUNDS. TRANSFERS. PREDATORY HOME BUYING LEGISLATION THAT IS IN THE WORKS. SO YOU MIGHT EXPECT TO SEE THINGS LIKE THIS IN QUARTER TWO AND QUARTER THREE OF THE YEAR AND OTHER OF COURSE BUDGET COMMITTEE RELATED LEGISLATION BEFORE WE BEGIN THE MID BIANNUAL BUDGETS IN THE FALL. >> BEFORE WE MOVE ONTO THE OTHER SLIDES WE CAN TAKE QUESTIONS AS WE GO. AND I SEE COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE IS NOW PRESENT AS WELL. ONE OF THE THINGS I STRIVE TO DO WITH MY COMMITTEE WORK IS TO HAVE ITEMS BRIEFED TWICE BEFORE A VOTE. IT GETS A LITTLE BIT MORE CHALLENGING WHEN WE HAVE TWO DIFFERENT COMMITTEES. THE FINANCE NATIVE COMMUNITIES AND TRIBAL GOVERNMENTS AND THE SELECT BUDGET COMMITTEE. ONE OF THE WAYS WE ALLOW THE RELEASE VALVE WITH THE TRANSPORTATION LEVY LIFT IS WITH COUNCILMEMBER SAKA TO HAVE THAT BRIEFED FIRST BEFORE TAKING A VOTE IN THE FULL SELECT BUDGET COMMITTEE. SO THAT IS ONE EXAMPLE. THERE ARE SOME, THERE MIGHT BE SOME TENSION POINTS TO MAKE SURE THINGS ARE MOVING AROUND THE FAS DIRECTOR APPOINTMENT. AND WE MIGHT HAVE THAT BRIEFED IN SELECT BUDGET COMMITTEE AND VOTED IN FINANCE COMMITTEE. THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. JUST WANT TO CHECK IN, COLLEAGUES, ANY QUESTIONS ON THE UNIVERSE OF WORK WITHIN BOTH THE SELECT BUDGET COMMITTEE AND THE TRIBAL GOVERNMENT'S COMMITTEES? EDIN, I'LL TURN IT RIGHT BACK OVER TO YOU. >> ALL RIGHT. SO THIS NEXT SLIDE IT IS ITEMS SPECIFIC TO THE SELECT BUDGET COMMITTEE WORK PLAN. WE ALREADY DISCUSSED THE Q1 TRANSPORTATION LEVY AND FAS DIRECTOR APPOINTMENT. IN QUARTER TWO, YOU WILL DISCUSS THE OUTCOMES OF THE BUDGET REFORM MEMO WHICH I BELIEVE IS IN THE WORKS CURRENTLY. AND A BRIEFING ON THE VARIOUS SLIDES THAT WERE ADOPTED FOR THIS YEAR. AND THERE IS A SLIDE RESOLUTION COMING TO YOU. HOWEVER, SO THE SLIDES SUCH AS EARLY RETIREMENT INCENTIVE ANALYSIS, DEVELOPING PROGRAMS FOR CITY EMPLOYEES SUBJECT TO LAYOFF. OTHER FISCAL POLICY RELATED SLIDES ARE EXPECTED TO BRIEFED IN ONE OF THE COMMITTEES IN QUARTER TWO OR QUARTER THREE. AND WE HAVE THE STANDARD MID YEAR BUDGET SUPPLEMENTAL LEGISLATION WHICH TYPICALLY GETS ADMITTED AT THE END OF JUNE SO WE WILL DISCUSS THAT MOST LIKELY IN JULY BEFORE WE GET INTO THE FALL BUDGET PROCESS WHICH IS ALL ABOUT THE MID BIANNUAL BUDGET ADJUSTMENTS FOR 2026 BUDGET YEAR AND THE 206-31 CIP PLAN. >> OKAY. BEFORE YOU MOVE ON, EDIN, HERE, COLLEAGUES, IN QUARTER 2, YOU SEE BUDGET REFORM DISCUSSION. THIS IS BOTH PROCESS AND CONTENT AND WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS EVERY YEAR THE BUDGET PROCESS HAS CHANGED EVER SO SLIGHTLY. WHEN I STARTED WE HAD WHAT WAS CALLED A FORM B. THIS LAST YEAR, WE DID NOT USE THAT. I THINK THAT IT MIGHT BE BENEFICIAL TO BRING THAT BACK. AND SO WE'LL HAVE SOME OF THE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT WHAT WORKED LAST YEAR, WHAT DIDN'T WORK AND I'LL BE STOPPING BY EACH OF YOUR OFFICES TO TALK ABOUT THAT THIS QUARTER SO WE CAN MAKE AN IMPROVEMENT ON PROCESS. ANOTHER ASPECT IS CONTENT. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT BUDGET REFORM AND A MULTISTEP MULTIYEAR PROCESS TO GET OUR BUDGET BACK IN BALANCE. SOMETHING I ALSO HAVEN'T SEEN IS A REPORT BACK ABOUT SOME OF THE SLIDES OR THE QUESTIONS WE ASKED LAST YEAR. SO I WANT TO MAKE SPACE FOR THAT. THERE ARE SOME SLIDES WITH BUDGET ACCOUNTABILITY ASPECTS TO THEM THAT ARE SCHEDULED FOR OTHER COMMITTEES. COUNCIL PRESIDENT NELSON YOU HAD A GREAT SLIDE SCHEDULED TO COME TO YOUR COMMITTEE. IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO HAVE IT REPORTED OUT AT THE WHOLE SELECT BUDGET COMMITTEE BECAUSE WE WERE ALL A PART OF THAT DISCUSSION LAST YEAR. SO THAT'S PART OF THAT QUARTER 2. AND I MADE A DECISION TO, THIS IS PART OF THE CONVERSATION RIGHT? THIS THIS PROPOSAL, WE BRING THE MID YEAR SUPPLEMENTAL LEGISLATION BACK. THAT IS A DEVIATION FROM YEARS PRIOR TO LAST YEAR AND IT IS HELPFUL TO HAVE EVERYONE'S EYES ON IT. SO THIS IS THE PROPOSAL. VICE CHAIR? >> THANK YOU CHAIR. THANK YOU EDIN FOR BEING HERE AND CHAIR, THANKS FOR THE PREVIEW. IT'S HELPFUL TO HAVE A PREVIEW ON WHAT YOU'LL BE DOING THIS YEAR IN YOUR COMMITTEE. RELATED TO THE BUDGET REFORM DISCUSSION, THIS IS AS YOU KNOW, WE WILL NOT BE SURPRISED IT IS SOMETHING THAT I VERY MUCH CARE ABOUT. SO I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO WHAT THIS IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE. I WILL SAY THAT IN TERMS OF BUDGET REFORM, ONE THING AND I ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WE ALL PUT SLIES IN THE LAST BUDGET TO TRY TO GET TO SOME OF THIS INFORMATION. IDEALLY IN MY MIND, WE WOULD HAVE FROM EACH OF THE DEPARTMENTS, A LIST OF ALL THE THE PROGRAMS THAT THEY RUN WITH THE OUTCOMES FOR THOSE PROGRAMS. I HAVE IN THE EVER SEEN THAT. I THINK IT WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL. I DON'T KNOW HOW WE BUILD THAT INTO OUR WORK BUT I THINK WE HAVE ALL IDENTIFIED SOME PROGRAMS AS WE HAVE GONE BECAUSE THEY HAVE COME UP. BUT THERE ARE MANY PROGRAMS THAT EACH OF THE DEPARTMENTS ADMINISTER THAT WE DENT HAVE INSIGHT INTO AS TO THE OUTCOME PIECE THAT I THINK IS REALLY IMPORTANT FOR US TO HAVE THAT INSIGHT. SO I APPRECIATE YOU GIVING CONSIDERATION TO THIS BUDGET REFORM PIECE AND I HOPE THAT IN SOME ASPECT WHETHER IT IS THIS YEAR OR OVER THE COURSE OF THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS THAT WE REALLY GET TO A MORE ROBUST GATHERING EXERCISE WHERE WE ARE REALLY LOOKING AT ALL OF THE PROGRAMS FOR ALL OF THE DEPARTMENTS SO WE HAVE SOME CONFIDENCE AND WE CAN TELL THE PUBLIC WITH CONFIDENCE WE ENGAGED IN A ROBUST EXAMINATION OF THOSE PROGRAMS SO WE COULD RIGHT SIZE THE THINGS THAT DON'T HAVE THE INTENDED OUTCOMESIS A CONTINUATION OF PROGRAMS THAT MIGHT NOT HAVE THE OUTCOMES WE WANT AND NO ONE IS LOOKING TO SEE WELL, IF THAT PROGRAM IS NOT WORKING WHAT COULD WE DO DIFFERENTLY TO ACHIEVE THAT GOAL? AND SO, YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, THANK YOU FOR ENGAGING IN THIS, THIS YEAR AND I HOPE WE CAN GET TO SOME FORM OF WHAT I DESCRIBED AS WE WORK TOGETHER. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. YES, POINTS VERY WELL TAKEN. AND YOUR WORK THIS LAST YEAR WAS VERY HELPFUL. I KNOW CENTRAL STAFF IS READY TO WORK WITH YOU ON THOSE IDEAS AND I'M HAPPY TO SUPPORT YOU. >> THEY WERE DOING SOME RENOVATIONS AND FINALLY TOOK OUT THE PAPER POSTING BOARD FOR CITY JOBS. THEY HAVEN'T BEEN PRINTING THEM. AND THIS IS NO SHADE OR FOUL AT FAS. THEY DO GREAT WORK. IT WAS JUST INTERESTING TO SEE IT STILL HANGING THERE AFTER ALL THESE YEARS OF ONLINE POSTING FOR JOBS, RIGHT? >> YEAH. >> ANY OTHER COMMENTS, QUESTIONS ON SELECT BUDGET COMMITTEE WORK PLAN? COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE? >> THANK YOU CHAIR. AND I APOLOGIZE FOR NOT BEING THERE IN PERSON. TWO-HOUR SCHOOL DELAY. I JUST WANTED TO ADD AND SECOND WHAT THE VICE CHAIR RIVERA SAID. AND PART OF THIS IS ALSO LOOKING AT THE TRADITIONAL AREAS OF REVENUES AND SEE WHERE THEY ARE AND WHAT WE ARE DOING TO ENSURE THEM. THAT IS BASICALLY ACHIEVING AS MUCH AS WE CAN GIVEN THE BROADER ECONOMIC CIRCUMSTANCES. JUST TO KNOW HOW WE IMPACT IT. I THINK THAT IS REALLY IMPORTANT AND THAT IS KIND OF LIKE PART OF THE STEP PROCESS WITH WHAT THE VICE CHAIR WAS TALKING ABOUT IN TERMS OF LOOKING AT THE PROGRAMS AS WELL. >> I'LL SECOND THAT, THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER SAKA? >> THANK YOU MR. CHAIR. THANK YOU FOR YOUR GRACIOUS WELCOME TO YOUR COMMITTEE. I'M EXCITED TO BE ATTENDING MY FIRST COMMITTEE MEETING HERE TODAY. AND ALSO APOLOGIES FOR NOT BEING ABLE TO JOIN YOU IN PERSON WHICH IS ALWAYS MY STRONG PREFERENCE BUT WITH TWO OF MY THREE ELEMENTARY AGED KIDS HOME SICK AND THE THIRD IS HOME FOR A SNOW DAY. IT IS PURE SURVIVAL MODE FOR A WORKING PARENT LIKE MYSELF SO SHOUT OUT TO ALL THE WORKING FAMILIES OUT THERE TRYING TO SURVIVE AND MANAGE ALL THE THINGS. SO IF YOU HEAR SOME KIDS COUGHING OR YELLING OR MELTDOWNS, PROBABLY MY OWN MELTDOWN. IT IS THE NATURE OF THE BEAST SO I APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE AND GRACE. IN ANY EVENT, THIS PROPOSED ALLOCATION SEEMS TO MAKE SENSE. IT IS A FAIR RATIONAL APPROACH. LAST YEAR AS THE NEW MEMBER TO THE BROADER BODY IN THE COUNCIL, I THOUGHT YOU LED A VERY COLLABORATIVE APPROACH. A LOT OF THE IMPORTANT DISCUSSION ITEMS THAT SET THE TABLE FOR WHAT I THINK IS A SUCCESSFUL BUDGET PROCESS. AND SO, YEAR TWO FOR ME AND MANY OF OUR NEWEST COLLEAGUES, THE MAJORITY I SUPPOSE, AND NOW, EVEN NEWER MEMBERS AT A VERY HIGH LEVEL, I'M INCLINED TO ADOPT A SIMILAR SELECT COMMITTEE APPROACH BUT A LITTLE MORE LIGHTWEIGHT THAN LAST YEAR. THIS IS OUR SECOND ROUND OF REPS IF YOU WILL. AND I THINK OUR TWO NEWEST COLLEAGUES COULD BENEFIT FROM THESE ITEMS ALLOCATED FOR THE SELECT BUDGET COMMITTEE. I WANT TO BALANCE THAT. MY PREFERENCE WOULD BE TO SMARTLY BALANCE THAT WITH THE FACT WE HAVE NO SHORTAGE OF SELECT COMMITTEES THIS YEAR. WE HAVE AN ABUNDANCE OF SELECT COMMITTEE. THE COMP PLAN. HUGE PRIORITY. COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA'S UPCOMING LEVY. THE NEW FEDERAL IMPACT STUDY. THERE IS NO SHORTAGE OF THOSE. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WHATEVER APPROACH WE ADOPT IS MINDFUL AND THOUGHTFUL OF THE EFFORTS WE HAVE GOING ON AT COUNCIL. THANK YOU MR. CHAIR. >> THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER SAKA. WELL SAID. WE DO HAVE SO MANY COMMITTEES THIS YEAR. AND PART OF THAT IS WHY THIS COMMITTEE TODAY IS SHORT, HAS BEEN SHORTENED. LET'S MOVE ONTO THE NEXT SLIDE. WE WILL MOVE INTO FINANCE NATIVE COMMUNITIES AND TRIBAL GOVERNMENTS. >> IN ADDITION TO THE FISCAL POLICY WORK THAT HAPPENS IN THIS COMMITTEE. A LOT OF THIS TYPE OF WORK DOES HAPPEN OUTSIDE OF COMMITTEE. THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES TO HIGHLIGHT THE GOVERNMENT TO GOVERNMENT AND COORDINATION BETWEEN AREA TRIBES. AND THE CITY. WE'LL HAVE A TRIBAL NATION'S SUMMIT UPDATE LATER IN THE SUMMER. AND, SPEAKING OF THIS TRIBAL RELATIONS DIRECTOR. HE IS NO LONGER WITH THE CITY SO HIS POSITION IS BEING CURRENTLY HIRED AS I UNDERSTAND IT. AND ON THE LAST SLIDE. >> BEFORE WE MOVE ON FROM THERE, A COUPLE OF NOTES. AS YOU DID MENTION, TIM, OUR OIR TRAVEL RELATIONS DIRECTOR HAS BEEN HIRED BY THE GOVERNOR'S TEAM. AND SO LET'S CHANGE SOME THINGS. WE KNOW THERE IS A PLAN TO HAVE ANOTHER TRIBAL SUMMIT THIS YEAR. THIS IS ALL VERY PRELIMINARY SO THINGS MIGHT CHANGE. WHEN THE TRIBAL NATION'S SUMMIT HAPPENED THE FIRST TIME, IT WAS THE FIRST TIME EVER. AND THERE WAS AN IMMEDIATE DESIRE TO HAVE IT AGAIN THE NEXT YEAR. AND TWO THINGS WERE QUICKLY REALIZED. THERE WAS A LOT OF FOLLOW-UP WORK. AND IT REQUIRES A LOT OF WORK TO PUT ON. AND SO, I WOULD SAY WE WERE IN THE FOLLOW-UP STAGES AND THERE IS A DESIRE TO HAVE THE SUMMIT AGAIN. I'LL BE FOLLOWING THE LEAD OF THE OFFICE OF INTERGOVERNMENTAL RELATIONS TEAM. AS WELL AS FRANCESCA MERNON. THIS IS A PLACE FOR OUR TRIBAL RELATIONS WORK TO BE REPORTED OUT SO THE COMMITTEE CAN WORK WITH OIR AS THIS WORK IS LED BY OIR. AS IS THE TRADITION SET BY FORMER COUNCIL PRESIDENT DEBORA JUAREZ. WE USE THIS COMMITTEE AS A WAY TO BRING THESE ISSUES TO THE FOREFRONT AS A PLACE TO REPORT OUT AND SUPPORT THEIR WORK AND THIS COMMITTEE HAS NEVER BEEN USED AS A PLACE TO DIRECT THE WORK OF THE OFFICE OF INTERGOVERNMENTAL RELATIONS TEAM SO AS WE FILL IN A POSITION THAT DIRECTOR RENON HELD, WE WILL CONTINUE DOING THIS. I KNOW OVER THE LAST YEAR, THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION BETWEEN ME AND THEIR TEAM ABOUT FORMALIZING THE TRIBAL NATION'S GOVERNMENT TO GOVERNMENT WORK STEMMING FROM SOME OF OUR GOVERNMENT TO GOVERNMENT CONSULTATION THIS LAST YEAR. WE HOPE TO DO THAT WORK. AGAIN, IT IS WORK THAT IS NOT NECESSARILY DONE AT THE COMMITTEE LEVEL. IT IS DONE IN NEGOTIATIONS, GOVERNMENT TO GOVERNMENT SO THERE MAY BE REPORT OUTS AND MAY NOT. THAT IS THE BODY OF WORK I'M HOPING TO ACCOMPLISH THIS YEAR IN THE THIRD QUARTER. AS YOU NOTICE, IN YEARS PAST, WE HAVE HAD A LOT OF THE LEGISLATION IN THE PREVIOUS SLIDE HAPPEN AT THIS COMMITTEE LEVEL HERE. MAYBE LESS IS MORE, MAYBE MORE IS LESS. ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS? MOVING RIGHT ALONG, AND THANK YOU. >> SO, THIS IS THE LAST SLIDE. A BRIEF HISTORY WHICH THE CHAIR ALREADY MENTIONED. BUT IN THE PAST, ALL OF THE MORE COMPREHENSIVE LEGISLATION YOU SEE HERE WAS TAKEN UP IN FINANCE COMMITTEE UNTIL LAST YEAR WHERE THE CHAIR RESURRECTED THE SELECT BUDGET COMMITTEE TO BE MORE INCLUSIVE, TOUCHING AN ALL OF THE DEPARTMENTS AND ALL OF THE FUNDS AND HAVE THINGS THAT ARE OF INTEREST TO COUNCIL MEMBERS. INSTEAD OF JUST HAVING THE FINANCE COMMITTEE MEMBERS PRESENT, ALL OF THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS PRESENT. A LOT OF THIS JUST FIRST BRIEFED IN FINANCE COMMITTEE AND VOTED OUT OF SELECT BUDGET COMMITTEE. A DISCUSSION POINT HERE IS WHAT DOES THIS LOOK LIKE THIS YEAR? SO I WILL OPEN IT UP TO YOU. >> YEAH. THANKS, EDIN. THIS IS A CONVERSATION IF WE WANT TO HAVE ON THE DAIS TODAY, I'M HAPPY TO OR I CAN MEET WITH YOU INDIVIDUALLY ABOUT THESE PIECES OF LEGISLATION. AS EDIN SHARED BEFORE, I WAS BUDGET CHAIR. ALL OF THESE WOULD HAVE GONE THROUGH THE FINANCE COMMITTEE. LAST YEAR I MADE THE DECISION TO PULL THEM UP TO THE SELECT BUDGET COMMITTEE. DO WE WANT TO HAVE THESE AT THE FINANCE COMMITTEWE? THE SELECT BUDGET COMMITTEE? THAT'S THE CONVERSATION. BECAUSE I CAN SEE IT EITHER WAY. AND I WANT TO BE COGNIZANT OF ALL OF THE TIME PRESSURE ESPECIALLY AS COUNCILMEMBER SAKA POINTED OUT. SO THAT'S WHY I BRING IT UP AS A DISCUSSION POINT. WE CAN DO ALL OF THESE IN FINANCE OR IN SELECT. IF WE DO THEM IN SELECT IT MIGHT BE A LITTLE MORE CHALLENGING. COUNCIL PRESIDENT? DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO SHARE? >> WELL LAST YEAR, CHAIR, YOU WILL RECALL THAT I REALLY WAS HOPING THAT YOU WOULD GET THE DATES FOR THE SELECT COMMITTEE TO ME SO WE COULD SORT OF MAP IT OUT. SO THAT WILL BE ANOTHER ISSUE I WOULD ASK SPECIFIC DATES. WE HAVE LIMITED REAL ESTATE IN CHAMBERS AS YOU KNOW. SO I JUST, BECAUSE THE PRESIDENT, I DON'T WANT TO SAY CREATES BUT ASSIGNS OR FORMS SELECT COMMITTEES AND THE DATES OF THOSE MEETINGS ARE LISTED IN THE MEMO THAT GOES OUT AND THERE IS USUALLY AN END DATE WHEN THE LEGISLATION HAS PASSED. WE ARE DEALING WITH COMPLEX LEGISLATION IN THE SELECT COMMITTEE. IT ALL DEPENDS ON WHAT THE DATES ARE. AND ALL THE TOP TICKS YOU WILL NEED TO ADDRESS AND WHETHER OR NOT THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE MID YEAR SUPPLEMENTAL PROCESS. THE FALL PROCESS. >> YOU NAILED EXACTLY WHY I MADE THESE DISCUSSION POINTS. AND WE HAVE SOME IDEAS OF THE DATES FOR THE BUDGET REFORM DISCUSSION IN THE SLIDE REPORT OUT. THAT IS SO IMPORTANT. WE WOULD BE TAKING THIS TIME SLOT. AS COUNCIL PRESIDENT SAID. REAL ESTATE AT CITY HALL IS FULL. WE ARE BACK HERE IN THE OFFICE AND WE ARE USING IT. BUT MOVING ONTO THE WORLD CUP APPROPRIATIONS. WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO MOVE QUICKLY AS YOU SAID. BECAUSE THINGS ARE MOVING FAST WITH OUR PREPARATIONS. SO IF WE NEEDED TO HAVE THAT IN THE SELECT COMMITTEE, IT WOULD REQUIRE A LITTLE MORE MANEUVERING. >> I ALSO THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO KEEP IN MIND THE SCHEDULES OF OTHER COLLEAGUES BECAUSE I'M HEARING YOU COUNCILMEMBER SAKA. SO, NOTED. >> VICE CHAIR AND THEN COUNCILMEMBER SAKA. >> MY QUESTION IS HOW DO YOU MAKE THE DETERMINATION ON WHAT GOES TO FINANCE COMMITTEE AND WHAT GOES TO SELECT BUDGET COMMITTEE? IN GENERAL, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND? >> IN YEARS PAST BEFORE LAST YEAR, AS TRADITION HAD FOR AS LONG AS I CAN REMEMBER, EVERYTHING JUST WENT TO FINANCE. NOTHING WENT TO ELECT. LAST YEAR TO BRING EVERYONE ONTO A MORE EVEN PLAYING FIELD. FOR INSTANCE, I DIDN'T REALIZE THERE WAS A SUPPLEMENTAL BUDGET. I KNEW THERE WAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO CHANGE THE BUDGET MID YEAR. IF FOLKS HADN'T WORKED HERE BEFORE, I HAD TO MAKE SURE THEY HAD AN EVEN PLAYING FIELD OF KNOWLEDGE. DO WE WANT TO CONTINUE WITH THAT? DO WE WANT TO REVERT BACK TO THE WAY IT WAS BEFORE? DO WE WANT MIDDLE GROUND? THE WAY I WILL MAKE THAT DETERMINATION IS TALKING TO THE COUNCIL. I WANTED TO GIVE YOU A MOMENT TO DIGEST AND REFLECT. THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER SAKA? >> THANK YOU MR. CHAIR. SCHEDULING, ALIGNING CALENDARS, AND PRECIOUS COUNCIL CHAMBERS SPACE. THERE IS A BACK END GAME OF TETRIS GOING ON. YOU NEED TO FIGURE OUT ALL THE PARTS. I GUESS AT A HIGH LEVEL, JUST KIND OF REEMPHASIZING MY EARLIER POINTS AND PREFERENCE THAT WE ADOPT MAYBE A MODIFIED APPROACH WHERE WE DO MORE AT THE SELECT COMMITTEE LEVEL THAN WHAT IS NORMAL. BUT BEING AWARE OF THE ROBUST SCHEDULE WE HAVE ACROSS THE BOARD FOR VARIOUS POLICY SUBJECTS SO AGAINST THAT BACKDROP AND IN LINE WITH THESE DISCUSSION POINTS AND THIS SLIDE, I WOULD SAY I THINK WORLD CUP APPROPRIATIONS. THERE IS A LOT OF EXCITEMENT AND INTEREST AMONG OUR COLLEAGUES. EVEN OUTSIDE OF THIS. THIS COMMITTEE. SO I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GOOD CANDIDATE IF POSSIBLE TO CONSIDER AT THE SELECT COMMITTEE LEVEL. NEXT UP WOULD BE THE MID YEAR SUPPLEMENTAL. THAT WOULD BE A GOOD CANDIDATE. WE HAVE NOW TWO NEW COLLEAGUES GOING THROUGH THIS PROCESS. I THINK THE FIRST TWO ARE VERY RIGHT FOR COMMITTEE LEVEL ONLY. BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, LOOK, I WOULD DEFER TO YOUR WISE JUDGMENT AND THAT OF COUNCIL PRESIDENT AND TRYING TO MAKE ALL THE PIECES WORK. >> THANK YOU. THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER SAKA. COUNCIL PRESIDENT? >> COULD YOU, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT BUDGET REFORM, COULD YOU PLEASE REMIND ME WHAT BUDGET REFORM WE WENT THROUGH IN 2023? THE FINANCE CHAIR I JUST RECALL, THERE WERE SOME THERE WAS SOME LEGISLATION THAT CODIFIED PARTS OF OUR BUDGET PROCESSES. >> ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE TRANSPARENCY? >> THAT'S IT. I COULDN'T REMEMBER THE NAME. SO WHAT WAS THAT AGAIN? I HAVE IT IN MY MIND AS BUDGET REFORM. >> I DON'T THINK THAT IS SIMILAR TO WHAT WE ARE DOING CURRENTLY WITH THE BUDGET REFORM THAT YOU ARE LEADING. >> YES. I MIGHT CIRCLE BACK WITH YOU, BUT IF I'M RECALLING CORRECTLY, IT WAS A DESIRE FOR THE EXECUTIVE AND THE COUNCIL TO WORK MORE CLOSELY TOGETHER IN CODIFYING THAT AND WE DID DO THAT LAST YEAR AND I EXPECT US TO DO IT AGAIN. IT LED TO WHAT I BELIEVE A COLLABORATIVE APPROACH I HAVEN'T SEEN BEFORE. >> THAT WAS REMARKABLE. SO I GUESS, IT IS HARD FOR ME TO SO WHEN YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT BUDGET REFORM, WHAT ARE YOU THINKING? I KNOW WE WILL DISCUSS IT LATER BUT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT GOING INTO EACH DEPARTMENT'S BUDGETS AND CAN YOU HELP ME UNDERSTAND? >> YEAH. >> THERE IS THE PROCESS. LAST YEAR WE DIDN'T DO FORM Bs . DO WE DO FORM Bs AGAIN THIS YEAR? I THINK IT MIGHT BE HELPFUL. THERE IS THAT PROCESS. >> CAN YOU REMIND PEOPLE THAT MIGHT NOT KNOW WHAT THEY ARE? >> I WILL ASK THAT I KNOW WE ARE HAVING A LITTLE BIT OF A DISCUSSION. BUT I WILL SHARE A STATEMENT AND PASS THE MIC BACK TO YOU. AND I THINK THAT I SHARED THIS AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING, FORM B JUST BEING EACH COUNCIL MEMBER CAN PUT FORWARD AN IDEA FOR DISCUSSION. THAT WAS IN THE PAST THAT WE DIDN'T DO FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS. SO IN 2024 AND IN 2023. AND THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT WE BRING BACK. SO THAT'S THE PROCESS OF HOW WE WORK ON THE BUDGET TOGETHER. THERE ARE ALSO THE ELEMENTS OF THE STEP DOWN APPROACH THAT WE OUTLINED AT THE END OF THIS LAST YEAR. WHICH IS TALKING ABOUT HOW DO WE BRING PROGRAMS AND BRING THE BUDGET MORE IN LINE WITH SUSTAINABILITY. SO FROM THERE, WE HAD A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT STATEMENTS OF LEGISLATIVE INTENT. COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA SHARED HER DESIRE TO GET MORE OUTCOMES BASE LEVEL. THESE ARE ALL THOSE DISCUSSIONS. IT GOES ON PROCESS AND CONTENT. HOW ARE WE TRACKING ITEMS OVER YEAR OVER YEAR? I AM GOING TO ASK CENTRAL STAFF TO CONTINUE USING THAT FIVE YEAR LOOKBACK DOCUMENT THAT WAS STARTED LAST YEAR FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER SO WE CAN CONTINUE LOOKING AT THE TRENDS OF OUR BUDGET RATHER THAN JUST INCREMENTAL CHANGES YEAR OVER YEAR. COUNCIL PRESIDENT, DO YOU HAVE MORE TO SHARE? >> I'LL WAIT. >> OKAY. COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE? >> THANK YOU CHAIR STRAUSS. I JUST WANTED TO ADD, I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU MADE A POINT AND COUNCIL PRESIDENT BACKED THIS UP. IN TERMS OF HAVING THE HISTORY OF THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE EXECUTIVE AND THE LEGISLATIVE RELATED TO BUDGET HAS NOT BEEN AS SMOOTH AS IT COULD BE IN THE PAST. I REALLY WANT TO FIRST THANK THE MAYOR FOR THAT ENGAGEMENT AND THAT ABILITY TO HAVE THAT MORE CONSTRUCTIVE RELATIONSHIP. AND I THINK WE SHOULD BE PROMOTING THAT. THIS GOES TO THE SLIDE FOLLOW-UPS. FROM OUTSIDE EYES, THERE HAS BEEN SOME REALIGNMENTS FOR THE OFFICE OF THE MAYOR. THAT IS ONE THING THAT CAME OUT OF THE THE BUDGET LAST YEAR WAS THE ALIGNMENT OF DUTIES AND WHERE BUDGET MONEY WAS. WHY IS SDCI LOOKING AT A CERTAIN THING WHEN IT IS A HOUSING PIECE AND THINGS CHANGE OVER THE YEARS AND THINGS JUST CONTINUE ON AND I THINK IT IS BENEFICIAL TOE BE LOOKING AND ENGAGING WITH THE EXECUTIVE SO WE GET BETTER ALIGNMENTS SOMETIMES BETWEEN WHERE THAT MISSION IS, WHERE THAT GOAL IS, AND THEN RESPONSIBLE DEPARTMENT. SOMETIMES IT GETS SPREAD OUT. WHEN YOU HAVE EVERYBODY IN CHARGE, NO ONE IS IN CHARGE. AND IT IS REALLY IMPORTANT FOR US TO SEEK THAT ALIGNMENT. AND SO THEN HE WITH ENGAGE AND GET AN ANSWER. SO THAT IS SOMETHING. THIS GOES INTO SOME OF THE THINGS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN SAID. IN A CONSTRUCTIVE WAY, WE WORK WITH THE MAYOR AND HIS TEAM AT THESE PIECES BASED ON OUR AREAS, PUBLIC SAFETY FOR ME FOR EXAMPLE. TRANSPORTATION OF COUNCILMEMBER SAKA. AND I THINK WE CAN REALLY DO SOME GOOD WORK IN TERMS OF THAT TYPE OF ENGAGEMENT AND WITH THAT GOAL OF KIND OF RIGHT SIZING OR LINING OR HAVING A SINGLE POINT CONTACT IN TERMS OF RESPONSIBILITY AND THE PROGRAM IT MIGHT BE. THAT WOULD DO US WELL MOVING IN THE FUTURE. AND PARTICULARLY BE THE BUDGET. SO THANK YOU CHAIR. >> WELL SAID COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE. COUNCILMEMBER NELSON? OLD HAND, NEW HAND? >> CONTINUING HAND I SUPPOSE. CONTINUING ON WHAT COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE SAID, I DO BELIEVE WE ARE IN A GOOD SPOT WITH TRANSPARENCY AND WORKING WITH THE EXECUTIVE SO I AM JUST WONDERING, MY EARLIER QUESTION IS WHAT NEED TO BE REFORMED ABOUT THE BUDGET? SO MAYBE THAT WILL BECOME CLEAR AS WE GO ON, AS WE GO FORWARD. WHEN I REFER DIFFERENT LEGISLATION, WHEN I REFER LEGISLATION TO COMMITTEES I'M ALWAYS WORKING WITH CENTRAL STAFF. I FOLLOW THEIR RECOMMENDATION TO WHICH COMMITTEE IT SHOULD GO TO AND REFER LEGISLATION AND YOU MENTIONED ONE PIECE OF LEGISLATION WHICH SOUNDS REALLY INTERESTING. AROUND HOMEOWNER SHIP. WHAT DID YOU SAY THAT WAS? PREDATORY PRACTICES. IS THAT COMING FROM THE EXECUTIVE? >> YES. THAT IS COMING FROM FAS'S LEADING THAT. >> GREAT. MY POINT WOULD SIMPLY BE, MY INPUT IS IF YOU DON'T HAVE THAT MUCH GOING ON IN YOUR COMMITTEE, MAYBE WE CAN HAVE, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ARE PLANNING ON ANY LEGISLATION. SEEMS LIKE THERE IS ONLY ROOM IN THE FINANCE COMMITTEE TO DO A LOT OF THIS WORK. >> YES. I THINK THAT IS BY DESIGN. >> AND WHEN IT COMES TO THE SELECT COMMITTEE NOT HAVING DATES AND NOT REALLY KNOWING WHAT THE TIME COMMITMENT WOULD BE, YOUR QUESTION WAS LET'S HAVE A DISCUSSION AT THE DAIS ON WHAT IS THE PREFERENCE OF PEOPLE. MY PREFERENCE WOULD BE TO KEEP THINGS IN FINANCE AS IS THE PRACTICE AND HAVING A SELECT COMMITTEE AROUND THE BUDGET IS HOW IT IS USUALLY DOWN AND I THINK IT WORKED WELL LAST YEAR. >> OKAY, GREAT. COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA? >> THANK YOU CHAIR. I AGREE ON THAT POINT. I WILL SAY JUST BECAUSE SOMETHING IS IN A COMMITTEE THAT IS NOT A SELECT COMMITTEE DOESN'T MEAN THAT THE REST OF US DON'T HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO WEIGH IN. AND AS YOU ALL KNOW, I REGULARLY ATTEND COMMITTEE MEETINGS OF COMMITTEES I DO NOT SIT ON BECAUSE I CARE ABOUT THE ISSUES I'M TRACKING WITH WHAT ALL THE COMMITTEES ARE DOING SO I WILL JUST SHOW UP TO EITHER HEAR THE PRESENTATIONS OR ASK MY QUESTIONS AND THERE IS ALWAYS OPPORTUNITY AT FULL COUNCIL TO DO THAT AS WELL WHEN THE COMMITTEE MAKES A RECOMMENDATION. YOU CAN ACCEPT IT OR NOT. I THINK BECAUSE OF THAT, AND THE PUBLIC SHOULD KNOW THAT WE DO OUR WORK IN COMMITTEES BECAUSE WE CAN'T ALL BE WORKING ON ALL THE THINGS ALL AT ONCE. AND SO IT IS HOW WE GET OUR WORK DONE AS EFFICIENTLY AS POSSIBLE BUT IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT YOU ARE NOT TRACKING EVERYTHING THAT COMES THROUGH. SO I THINK BECAUSE OF THAT, I AM FINE WITH HAVING THINGS GO THROUGH THE FINANCE COMMITTEE BECAUSE THERE IS ALWAYS OPPORTUNITY FOR SOMEONE WHO DOESN'T SIT ON FINANCE TO TRACK IN, WEIGH IN ON IT. WE CAN SPONSOR THINGS FOR THEM IF THEY WANT AMENDMENTS ON A PIECE OF LEGISLATION WE ARE TAKING UP. ALL THOSE THINGS ARE TRUE. AND BECAUSE OF THAT, IT MAKES MOST SENSE BECAUSE IT IS HARD TO HAVE ALL THESE SELECT COMMITTEES THAT EVERYBODY SITS ON FOR MANY REASONS INCLUDING THE TIMING PIECE AND BECAUSE WE HAVE SO MANY THINGS THAT WE ARE TAKING UP LIKE THE THEFT COMMITTEE THIS YEAR AND COMP PLAN. THE LIBRARIES LEVY WHICH WILL SIT ON MY COMMITTEE. SO ANYWAY, JUST TO SAY THAT THE IMPORTANCE OF JUST BECAUSE YOU DON'T SIT ON THE COMMITTEE DOESN'T MEAN YOU CAN'T TRACK IT OR WEIGH IN ON IT. I WANT PEOPLE TO FEEL COMFORTABLE WHEN WE SAY IT MAKES SENSE TO DO THINGS VIA COMMITTEE VERSUS THROUGH FINANCE COMMITTEE VERSUS SELECT BUDGET, IT IS NOT BECAUSE WE ARE NOT TRYING TO BE TRANSPARENT OR KEEP ANYONE OUT I FELT LIKE THAT NEEDED TO BE SAID. THANK YOU. >> I CAN TELL YOU THIS IS SUPER FEEDBACK. EDIN. AND NOTING WE HAVE A SELECT COMMITTEE STARTING IN 45 MINUTES. >> YES. >> JUST WANTED TO KNOW FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH, ALL OF THIS LEGISLATION YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN, THE CENTRAL STAFF DOES HAS THOROUGH ANALYSIS. MY COLLEAGUE AND I WILL WRITE A MEMO WHICH GETS DISTRIBUTED TO ALL OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS. SO WHICHEVER PATH YOU CHOOSE, EVERYBODY WILL HAVE ALL OF THE INFORMATION. I JUST WANTED TO NOTE THAT. >>> WONDERFUL. NOW WHEN IT COMES TO YOUR LAST SLIDE? >> IS THERE ANYTHING MORE FOR THE GOOD OF THE ORDER FOR TODAY? THE NOT, NOT SEEING ANYTHING, I WILL SAY THAT THIS CONCLUDES THE WEDNESDAY FEBRUARY 5th, 2025 FINANCE COMMITTEES AND TRAVEL COMMITTEE MEETING. IS THERE ANY FURTHER BUSINESS TO COME BEFORE THE COMMITTEE? SEEING NONE, WE ARE ADJOURNED. THANK YOU EVERYBODY, VERY MUCH.