6/4/20 - Planning Commission Meeting
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located on the table just inside entrance to the uh Civic chamber here at this time let's be sure we silence our cell phones pagers and other electronic devices thank you there are seven members appointed to the Planning Commission at this time I'll ask each commissioner to introduce themselves and state the district they're representing starting on my far right good evening I'm Ed nberg representing the choya district good even evening I'm Vern Crow and I represent Cactus good evening I'm Vice chair Al enx representing the barel district I'm Rick Harper representing the sorl district waren Wong repres representing the acao district and I am Gary hirs a mayor oral appointee representing the city at large let the record reflect that all members of the Planning Commission are present with the exception of commissioner nowakowski who will be detained but joining us a little later during the meeting the Planning Commission receives staff assistance and guidance from the planning Division and the city attorney's office Miss Collins would you introduce City staff who are present here this evening yes thank you Mr chairman uh our staff that's here this evening is George Geller a senior planner that will be making presentations Diana Figaroa our planning assistant Jim Gruber our uh legal uh advisor and Edward vigil a senior planner in the planning department and I'm Lisa Collins uh the interim planning director thank you thank you and let the record reflect that commissioner nowakowski has joined the meeting good evening commissioner is there anyone in the audience that would wish to speak on an item that is not on tonight T's agenda because these items are not on tonight's agenda the commission cannot take action this evening however these items may be added to a future agenda is there anyone wishing to speak on an item that is not on tonight's agenda seeing none we'll move on to approval of minutes we have minutes of the Planning Commission meeting regular meeting of May 7th 2020 is there a motion move support we have a motion and a second for approval of the Planning Commission regular meeting minutes of May 7th 2020 all in favor say I I I any opposed the motion is passed thank you Miss Collins do we have any continues excuse me withdrawals or continuations no Mr chairman uh no continuances and no withdrawals thank you we'll now move on to our public hearing items the purpose of a public hearing is to provide interested parties with an opportunity to present testimony for the commission's consideration we will follow the same procedure for each item the chair will call the application number in the name of the applicant staff will present the report and answer questions from from the commission the applicant will be given the opportunity to make presentation and answer questions from the commission other persons who wish to testify will be asked to do so and answer questions from the commission the applicant will have an opportunity for closing comments staff will be asked for any final comments on the application and procedural Guidance the chair would then close the public hearing and ask for a motion prior to discussion um speakers who wish to comment on any item during this evening's meeting will be staged in the adjacent room and called in sequence as their opportunity to testify before the commission presents itself the first public hearing item this evening is g83 Plaza General plan Amendment GPA 1 19-1 1 Z and resoning application Z N1 19-05 thank you Mr chairman members of the Planning Commission uh George gayer Glendale City Planning staff uh first case before you this evening once again is g83 which is a mixed use plan area development um specifically the requests have to do with the general plan Amendment gpa1 1910 and zone change z11 1905 um once uh again the the request involves a general plan Amendment from planned commercial the land use designation of plan commercial to corporate Commerce Center and secondly a reone from neighborhood shopping center to planed area development to allow for a mixed use plary development the applicant is John fro urban planning LLC the project area includes 8.23 Acres uh the project is located um somewhat west of uh City Hall on the south side of Glendale Avenue the east side of 83rd a Southeast block of Glendale on 83rd as depicted on the screen it is part of an area designated by the Glendale General plan for Planned commercial uses and uh as depicted here in the the Yellow Block this includes about 8 Acres again on the Southeast corner of Glendale Avenue and uh 83rd Avenue it's surrounded by multif Family zoning to the east and south um as well as commercial zoning to the uh north and west a little better picture uh look at the uh adjacent land uses residential areas and multif family areas to the south and east again commercial to the north and west um the development standards provided by the planned area development proposal excuse me would establish a mixed use project on 8.23 acres and Prov provide chiefly U C2 type commercial development um as well as uh multif family R4 type residential standards for the development of this site uh the north portion is largely commercial the southern portion is uh residential uh the building height would be um Extended to 60 ft um to accommodate a possible Forest Tory hotel as well excuse me as part of the planetary development options the uh the proposal would call for an optional um site layout there's no specific site plan at this point in time it's merely conceptual this is a a quick look at it it's turned sideways North is to the left of the screen um that's a glendel Avenue along the left side of the screen and 83rd along the bottom uh there's a sequence of access points that we're still working with the applicant on to um perfect as part of this proposal um we haven't really zeroed in on the exact access through the community yet but um that'll be part of the design process that follows the proposal would enable 15,000 ft of retail on 1.2 Acres of the site to the top left of the screen 5,000 ft of commercial on the um at the very the hard corner of the project and the South half of the project about five out of the eight Acres would be uh 85 U multif family units U that's a a density of about 17.4 units per acre these are the um the hotel Concepts that were provided by the applicant kind of the design pallet for the uh the project as well as for um the uh the retail Concepts retail uh pallet and some of the concepts for the residential component as you can see that's a four-story structure currently the site is vacant this is a shot of the frontage along Glendale Avenue looking somewhat South uh easterly I believe southwesterly South easterly far as a public notification on the request um there was an initial notice mailed to Jason Property Owners on May the 13th um hearing notices regarding this evening's meeting uh were mailed on May the 6th it's been advertised the site has been posted um we also sent out a revised notice regarding the general plan amendment that was not initially included as part of the um the initial advisory that went out on May 17th um we haven't received very many comments on the proposal we did receive one comment from one of the neighbors representing the U was the area to the West in the review of this project uh staffs finds that the the amendment is consistent with the development objectives of the general plan um we believe it's compatible with the other planed area development nearby um and serves as a plausible infill proposal that includes additional housing opportunities for the city staff is recommending approval of the request subject to the following stipulations one the site plan dated May 1st 2020 and elevations dated May 1 2020 are considered conceptual and are subject to design review that would follow um action on the evenings hearing number two the applicant shall work with the city's transportation department to resolve the design location and number of access points to the site the number of access points width of the access and design of the driveway shall adhere to the city of glendale's 2015 engineering standards the applicant shall submit a traffic impact study at the time of the design review submittal the study shall be performed in accordance to the procedures the requirements the mcdot traffic impact study manual four uh the developer shall provide this uh half Street RightWay dedication along Glendale Avenue and 83rd Avenue with all Associated roadway improvements they're listed in the city of glendale's 2015 engineering standards number five the 12 kilovolt power lines along 83rd Avenue shall be placed underground six the minor lot division shall be required if buildings are to be developed over lot lines specifically that would be a lot tie rather than a land Division Seven the developer shall record a notice to prospective purchasers of proximity of the proximity to the Glendale Municipal Airport in order to dis close the existence and operational characteristics of the airport the future owners or tenants of the property and number eight design review would be required Mr chairman that concludes my presentation thank you Commissioners are there any questions for Mr gber any questions Commissioners commissioner n Kowski hello okay so there's a for future residents or business owners there's a notice about the airport this is 83rd Avenue in Glendale I I know we've done a lot of resoning for large four-story buildings along 91st why I this is just pops up to me this is further away from a lot of the development we've been approving if I believe if you're within 3 miles of the airport that's a a routine um acknowledge okay then we need to add it into the other developments then that are closer Westgate specifically any additional questions Commissioners thank you Mr G would the applicant or applicants representative like to make their presentation good evening Mr Frog uh I'm not Waring or red shirt I do have a mask if that helps tonight so um John froak I'm a glendel resident my office is in Phoenix North 28th Drive 85029 I want to appreciate uh staff thank you I won't touch anything appreciate staff and the help that they've given us on this project we had a neighborhood meeting a year ago May uh there was really just myself my client who's not here tonight the property owner and and the planning administrator at the time David Williams I've received one phone call uh last week it might have been the same person that was uh reaching out to to staff uh she just had some questions procedurally on what we're trying to accomplish um we've had a couple of stops and starts on the project based on some escros last year but we're ready to proceed uh basically my client really cannot find any um Eng users based on the existing zoning so that's why we're here tonight we appreciate working with uh George and Tina on uh General plan Amendment which was kind of a late thing for us but we're uh in agreement with all the stipulations um the airport notice we think is a little bit Overkill but that's fine we're we're okay with all all stipulations and on the zoning case we're pleased with the recommendation for approval on both the GPA and the Z with that I'd be happy to answer any question questions Commissioners any questions from Mr fro commissioner nusi GL showed up John U is it going to be a hotel or is it going to be Apartments do or are we just proving the Zoning for either or um Mr chairman commission uh member nowakowski we're frankly we really don't know it the zoning is to try to meet U Market demands in all likelihood we will not end up with the residential component um I'm not certain of that we would like to have the ability to build a hotel U I know that's a a goal of the cities is to add hotel rooms to Glendale for future National events our our interest is really to try to have the flexibility on a future site plan subject to design review and uh we mean well we want to provide a a meaningful project to Glendale and it's on a the city's namesake Street we want to do the right thing with Landscaping we'll have appropriate setbacks and uh work with the neighbors to the East and the south on buffering and Landscaping and building setbacks here here's here's my concern John is that we have 8.23 acres and on this development we're putting uh over 60% is going to be for the multif family that's what it appears so 5 Acres out of the eight so when we talk uh mixed use or you know the goal of our general plan is to provide you know mixed projects with housing retail restaurants uh Transit walkability entertainment retail all these things but it seems like this is mainly going to be multif family and it's going to be 6 foot high I'm not aware of any Apartments East of 83rd Avenue let's talk Camelback let's talk Bethany Glendale Northern from 83rd to the Phoenix border that is four stories high I don't see that as being compatible with this neighborhood quite frankly since that's going to be the major bulk of this development and also on the site plan I saw it in bigger uh image there's only like enough uh for maybe four businesses some we can put up the site plan so maybe four squares we can put in four oops restaurants a Subway or whatever you we need dry cleaning by the way in that area but yeah to the top where it says retail on 1.2 Acres I mean I would like to see more of that think it should be about uh 30% we just we just approved something called mea Westgate where it was about 30% of the coverage I believe that or it was another Zone Zen hero development but asking 60% for multif family and upping the height of it for that area I just think um it's not the best plan but you're telling me that you've worked with the city of Glendale and I'm not not surprised about the neighborhood participation especially if it's just 300 ft um but that's that's where I'm at John quite frankly and I don't know if you'd be open or you're the person you're representing to reduce the number of multif family I know the city wants to put a lot of density into the area and I don't mind in the Westgate area if you can see you know State Farm Stadium or Westgate from the corner fine you can't from here that's all Mr chair thank you commissioner Mr chairman commissioner nowakowski we're again we're here to work with the city um if there's a stipulation that we need to agree to to reduce the amount of uh multifam or residential component we can um about 15 years ago um Lamar Road which would be to the right of the screen that would be our South Boundary we have abandon the right of way uh at the city Traffic Engineers request at the time will landscape that area that'll provide a buffer to the apartment complex to the South the representative exhibits that were up on the screen a few moments ago are part of the pad booklet um in all likelihood once we go through design review those will the design will probably change we're trying to give a representation of the quality of uh the residential component that might be there we we think that we'll have a lot of land Landscaping um good setbacks on the project um there uh there are some end users that we're talking to that are not multifam where that site plan that's up on the screen would in all likelihood change um subject to design review I don't want to make this sound like hey here's a pretty picture and it's going to change but in all likelihood the layout that's up there tonight will probably change once we come in with a design review with uh Mr gayer and with h with staff any additional questions does 30% coverage for multif family or uh Motel use sound appropriate for this development would that be a make or break stipulation for you and and George if you need to add in your opinion from the city Viewpoint I'd welcome it because I believe that uh we have an opportunity for more employment more restaurants more Community uses versus but what we're seeing that we we've approved scores um I believe it was centerp point on Cardinals way we approved you know 15 Acres 344 units and Zan herrow and um meow Westgate you know this earlier this year and tons of of new units very dense and I just don't feel that when you get into 83rd and 75th and it's the same same dynamic because it's more highly residential and the apartments there unless you go to the old County Island I don't know if there's any higher than twostory so I I will be adding stipulation and I don't know if I'll get support for it but thank you John thank you Commissioners any additional questions from Mr Frog okay thank you Mr fr thank you with that the chair will open the h meeting for gpa1 19-10 and Z N1 19-05 we have any speaker cards do we have anyone wishing to speak on this this item hearing none the chair will now close the public hearing on GPA 1 19-10 and zerin 1 19-05 is there a motion Mr chairman just point of clarification I'm sorry point of clarification we need two separate motions on this we would need two separate motions yes I would move approval of General plan Amendment 19-10 we have a motion and a second for approval of gpa1 19-10 chair will now conduct a roll call vote beginning on my far right commissioner nberg hi commissioner Crow hi Vice chair Linx hi commissioner Harper hi commissioner Wilfong hi commissioner nowakowski n and the chair votes I the motion is passed Mr Gruber Next Step in this process commission your action tonight with respect to case number gpa1 19-10 is not final your recommendation will be forwarded to the city council for further consideration thank you the chair will now entertain a motion for Z N1 19-05 Mr chair I move that we accept Z1 19-05 with st ulations listed I second it okay we have a motion for approval of zn1 19-05 with all eight stipulations a motion in a second the chair will now conduct a roll call vote beginning on my far right commissioner nberg I'd like to of course add a stipulation voted for I'd like to stipulate that the with whether it be motel or multifam be no more than 30% of the Development Area okay mechanically how do we do this Mr guber there's a motion and a second on the floor so if the motion maker wants to amend his motion uh you could take that approach if the motion maker wishes to see what the vote is on his motion um that is at the pleasure of the motion maker thank you commissioner nber how would you like to or excuse me commissioner Harper I beg your pardon how would I stand by my motion so we'll go ahead and vote then um the chair will now conduct a roll call vote on Z N1 19-05 beginning with commission nyberg hi commissioner Crow hi Vice chair LX hi commissioner Harper I commissioner Wilfong I commissioner nowakowski I and the chair votes I the motion is passed now can we entertain a separate motion for a stipulation that since this is already passed chair members of the commission you're your vote renders the the request for the stipulation Moot and your action with respect to the case number Z 19-05 is not finally recommendation will be forwarded to the council very good thank you Mr G okay we'll move on to the second public hearing item this evening that is Glendale 91 pad General plan Amendment GPA 20-10 and resoning application Z in20 -03 Mr gabert presenting thank you Mr chairman members of the commission again this is a request for a uh a mixed use plan area development to be known as Glen 91 um specifically GPA 20-01 and z12- 03 the request is for again a minor land am minor General plan Amendment from PC again planned commercial to CCC corporate Commerce Center as well as a reone from C2 or General commercial to plan area development the applicant is Shane Elman Tiffany and bosow the project area includes 15.46 Acres this is the location again is the southeast block of um Glendale Avenue and 91st Avenue located just east of Westgate and the 101 Southside of Glendale Avenue this is the depiction by the Glendale General plan again again it's designated as a planned commercial uh planned commercial area the request would effectively extend the uh CCC designation from across the street W the the Westgate area and to include this portion of property as a way to accommodate a mixed use development on a smaller parcel this is the um the property's three Parcels currently again along the south of Glendale Avenue currently Zone C2 there's undeveloped agriculturally zoned property to the South um residential and um I believe um adult care facilities located to the east uh commercial uh property across the street north side of Glendale Avenue and to the West both as part of planned area developments within Westgate this is again is an aerial view of the project site um part of an undeveloped uh parcel and um again the the digestion uses are vacant to the East and as well as residential to the east and south commercial north and west the uh plary development calls out two basic Parcels on the project um the uh the parcel to the West at the Hard corner of the intersection would be a commercially developed project um with a building height of 120t Maximum and the project to the east would be a 60-ft building height largely multif family units uh we've taken an informal um look at a a uh proposal for this site that would include 296 U multif family units but there's no no development or design review application at this point uh the access designs commercial Footprints uh floor area design pallet would be finalized as part of our design review process um couple things that are key to the review of this site plan have to to do with the development of access to the northeast corner we've got a slightly offset intersection at that uh at that Hard Corner as well as um the East West laterals that may uh be developed in association with the the development of the uh that corner property the southwest corner that's still something that will be worked out hopefully through the design review process there's some conceptual elevations submitted um in response to the uh the residential component of the project again four story residential um units 60 foot maximum and the current proposal is 296 this is the um just some quick photos of the U Street Frontage of the project site 91st Avenue uh looking Southeast to the top and um the Southwest 89th Avenue and Glendale looking Southwest the initial notice on this request was mailed out April 27th um we've also advertised and posted the site May 14th and um hearing notices regarding this evening's hearing uh were sent out on May the 19th we've received very few comments on the proposal on this as well we believe it's uh consistent with the general plan complements the adjacent uh development of Westgate encourages infill in a greater variety of land uses housing types and design staff is recommending approval of GPA 2001 and z123 subject to the following one development should be in substantial conformance with Glen 91 pad development narrative dated May 2020 uh two site access revisions to the site plan shall be addressed as part of design review three on Glendale Avenue the developer will be required to provide half Street RightWay in compliance with the requirements listed in city of Glendale standard detail g300 65 ft minimum four on 91st Avenue the developer will be required to provide 65t Half street of RightWay measured from the center line to be in compliance with Section A4 3m3 and city of Glendale standard detail g303 at the intersection required Half street rway at the intersection will me will be 75 ft five on 89th Avenue the developer will be required to provide RightWay dedications and improvements as determined at the the time of design review and site plan review six rway improvements for 91st AV and Glendale Avenue shall be constructed with each adjacent parcel seven a minimum 6ot sidew will be required along 91st Avenue and Glendale Avenue along the property Frontage eight shared access along 91st Avenue with a parcel to the South shall be resolved prior to design review and site plan approval Nine Street lighting will be required along the property Frontage typically 200 ft on local streets and collectors where the street width is less than 43 ft Mr chairman that concludes my presentation thank you Commissioners any questions for Mr gayer thank you Mr Gaber would the applicant or applicants representative like to come forward state your name and address for the record and make your presentation good evening chairman HS members of the commission my name is Shane Alman with Tiffany and bosow it's great to be here tonight I know you got a full schedule so I'll I'll try to keep it brief but uh George did a a wonderful job uh in his presentation and we have really been pleased with uh this this project has been in discussion for over a year now um with with many departments at the city of of glendell and and especially with planning staff and we really commend um all of the hard work and uh taking the time to work with us to craft something that we think is going to be special here on the side and and provide an opportunity to interact with with what's occurring just to the to the west of us with Westgate and so there's just a a couple slides that I I wanted to to go through just to supplement some of the uh the great information that George just uh provided here um so if we could go to the the next slide this just shows a um an aerial here of of the area of course you can see it's it's right on 91st uh right by the Hub of of Westgate right at the heart of of the Westgate Entertainment District and as we've discussed this area with with staff and and with uh different departments in Glendale um it was important that we we tried to provide a development here that was interacting with that and providing density um as well as a a a commercial compon component and having those retail opportunities um that coincide with with the people that will continue to come uh to this area go to the next slide this is just a closer view of the site you can see to the very east of us we've got the Westgate Village retirement um and of of course the kov community which is a more of a a medium high density um residential that's still in in construction there and then we have a A1 zoning to the South and Westgate to the to the west and the 91 Glendale Center to the north next slide so this is as we looked at the site as I said we talked with staff it was really important um to craft the uses that were compatible with this area currently the the S the site is zoned as C2 which allows a multitude of of different uses even noxious uses and so as we worked with staff it was important in our P to make sure that some of those uses such as adult entertainment auto repair facilities pawn shops RV self- storage uses tattoo parlor thrift stores all of those were prohibited and that is what you'll find in this pad is that um it was important for us to look at the uses that were compatible with this area and exclude those uses um that we didn't feel fit fit in with the area we go to the next slide and I think George already talked about this so I'd like to go to the next slide and and talk about um hcw because as we started this process we were able to to have hcw come on board and we actually have a concurrent um Dr plan application in review right now and in fact hcw I've got Representatives here the president of of hcw and project manager Rick Huffman and Tom Nelson um they're anticipating for the multif family the the Dr and sight plan to be approved in July so it's moved far along and staff has has reviewed those elevations they reviewed the site plan how it works and all of those details have have been worked out um and really hcw is a a magnificent uh company they've done a lot in the valley they've done some some develops in in glendell one of the the projects I wanted to highlight um not too far from here in Chandler uh the met at Fashion Center um they were involved with the construction of that facility in in 2015 and if youve if you've been out to the Chandler Fashion mall and and you see the Met just to the West um of the Fashion Center you'll see the the highquality multif family living that's produced there it's not your garden style Apartments this is more of an urban living with high amenities um pools coffee bar fitness center and so this site here Glen 91 is patterned after that that project in Chandler if you go to the next slide you'll see um some of the imagery uh if you haven't been out to the met at Fashion Center you'll see you'll see immediately the quality that's part of this the the difference in in materials and colors and and the uniqueness of the buildings that that come here the amenities that are that are there um um and the next slide I think it we've we've produced a a perspective um of what it what it could look like and what matches with some of the the elevations that are currently being reviewed with Dr and I thought it was important that we showed these images supplement what George provided here so you could see the quality and see that we are bringing a developer they are here in tow and ready to to get moving um with shovels in the ground um to provide something that that is unique something that's exciting for the for the Westgate area and we're really proud to to be able to be with them and to have them coming to the site and so with that I'm I'm happy to answer any questions like I said I've got hcw uh here with me today if we have any questions about the multif family project that they currently are in review with with staff on and the Dr and the site plan review we'd be happy to answer any questions that you have thank you Mr alond Commissioners any questions commissioner n Kowski Sean I want to compliment you on a development plan that has 15% residential 55% office and about 30% commercial retail that's a break good breakdown we just passed something that's 60% residential no drawings no redition of what it would look like you know a lot of hope and trust there so I'm very glad on on how you presented this and I look forward to it and you know what from this development I can see Westgate and State Farm stadium so yeah I'm pleased with with that tell the folks back at Tiffany Basco and hdw development that bring something like the Met to Glendale thank you thank you appreciate it Commissioners any questions comment very good thank you Mr alond thank you the chair will now open the public hearing on GP A 20-01 and Z N20 d03 do we have any speaker cards no Mr chairman we do not is there anyone present that would like to speak on either of these items seeing none the chair will now close the public hearing on GPA 20-01 and0 N20 s03 is there a motion Mr chairman make a recommendation that we approve GPA 20-01 we have a motion and a second for approval of GPA 20-01 chair will now conduct a roll call vote beginning on my far left we did have a second yes sir not a problem keep me between the guardrails and out of trouble okay we'll proceed with a um vote and I'll begin with commissioner nyberg I commissioner Crow hi Vice chair lenx I commissioner Harper hi commissioner Wilfong hi commissioner nowakowski I and the chair votes I the motion is passed is there a motion for Zo in 20-3 Mr chairman I move we approve Z N20 d03 subject to the stipulations contained in the staff report report we have a motion and a second for approval of Z in 2010-03 with nine stipulations chair will now conduct a roll call vote commissioner nyberg I commissioner Crow I Vice chair Lennox I commissioner Harper I commissioner Wilfong I commissioner nowakowski I and the chair votes I the motion is passed Mr Gruber what are the next steps in the process chair members of the commission your action with respect to case numbers GPA 20-01 and z 20-3 are not final your recommendation will be forwarded to the city council for further consideration thank you well now move on to the third public hearing item this evening New River Road truck parking rezoning application z20 d10 Mr Virgil presenting good evening Mr chairman and Commissioners my name is Edward vigil I'm a fairly new planner so this is my first time presenting at the Planning Commission and I am we'll try not to be too harsh on you okay thank you uh I am introducing zoning case 20-10 for New River Road truck parking I point this to this one okay so this is a request for approval of a reone from agricultural A1 to light industrial M1 to allow truck parking as required by the Glendale zoning ordinance section 5.84 I the applicant is Michael buschbacher II with Hunter engineering then the project area is 9.49 Acres next we have the vicinity map the subject property is the where the yellow star is located in relation to the Red Dot where City Hall is located next is the general plan so this site is designated as business park uh by the Glendale General plan and now we have the zoning map currently the site is zoned A1 an aerial photograph a property location map again showing the zoning of A1 and then the surrounding zoning of a light IND dustrial to the west to the north uh and also to the east and south next I'm introducing to you a possible site plan titled option A so option A I believe is is uh showing access coming from the south of New River Road and then site plan option b is showing axis coming from the north and not through New River Road with a wall blocking access for access to New River Road which may be a possible alternate access so for public involvement initial notice was mailed out April 20th 2020 to Property Owners within 300 ft of the project boundary and other interested parties a total of 113 mailings went out uh the site was advertised and site posted on April 20th 2020 hearing notices were mailed out April 20th 2020 and no comments have been received since uh any postings or mailings and the findings for this is the proposed zoning change is consistent in substance and location with the basic development objectives of the general plan and the proposal will be compatible with other existing land uses in the Glenn Harbor business park so staff is recommending approval of Zone 2010 subject to four stipulations but I do want to bring attention to those stipulations the applicant has requested if we could change the time frame from 6 months to 18 months on those stipulations and the planning department has agreed to those so as I read them instead of 6 months it's going to read 18 months number one a design review application is required for each parcel within 18 months of the rezoning approval that will address a final site plan the internal site improvements including Paving lighting r attention Landscaping parking site walls and traffic circulation number two for New River Road rideway requirements and roadway sections will be in accordance with the city of Glendo standard Gil g300 and g305 number three fire protection and appropriate access for fire trucks and emergency vehicles shall be provided for each par within 6 months of the resoning I'm sorry within 18 months of the resoning approval and number four depending on the proposed uses and phasing of the two development Parcels off-site domestic water and sanitary sewer infrastructure improvements may be required and that concludes the presentation for New River Road truck parking zoning case 20-10 also the applicant is here he would like to give a brief presentation great thank you any questions for Mr vigil commissioner Crow yes I uh stipulation number four uh why does it say off off-site domestic water and sanitary Su or infrastructure improvements may be required I would think they would be required well I believe that there's still more research discussions on what improvements are going to be required and where they're going to come from but uh Adam ba the applicant will also address that as well in his presentation thank you any additional question commissioner now Kowski the RightWay improvements in stipulation number two is is are we talking curb gutter expanding or widening the street New River I drove down it i' never heard of this street I've I've been to Glenn Glenn Harbor and right now it's it needs Improvement right now it's a very small uh narrow road it definitely does need Improvement it has not been improved and it depends on um the option A or option b site plan as to whether or not these trucks are going to have access through New River Road or up from the north whether or not they're going to be required to improve New River Road uh but also Adam ball with the applicant can also uh go more further in detail on that as well well it's along the right away of the development project I would think would be a requirement well there's two separate owners at this time so one owner or owns the West part and another owner uh owns the East portion so has has any City Department looked at the drainage issues because the elevation can go from it looked like 10 15 ft difference in elevations between the neighboring properties it is higher it it's it's really you know like three amaz right so Land devel Development engineering did look at the application and the plans um and they gave their responses and those responses were included in these four stipulations so as far as drainage i' I'd have to look into that a little further and get back to you is this going to council after us yes it is okay and the last one is kind of on the the water sewer at the very least is there a fire hydrant back there not currently that's one of the requirements that they'll have to provide it when we go through design review all right 189 truck spaces I'm just thinking we're talking about plan AB that's one entrance for 189 trucks and a street that's pretty narrow I I just hope uh that number is added when I trust you all right and as I stated it's still the site Design's still being worked on and negotiated and discussed so as soon as we get a final design we'll we'll uh pres review that through the design review process all right maybe before Council there might be talk about two entrances or one one exit one entrance thank you you're welcome and Adam good evening please state your name and address for the record sir good evening Adam B 2525 East Arizona builtmore Circle I've I've seen the agenda but I've seen the crowd outside so I'm going to be very brief so you can get home earlier tonight but I'm grateful for staff's um participation and helping us get to this point um very astute questions from the two members of the commission I'm hope I can answer those questions tonight it briefly stated this is a use that's been operating since about the 1980s and I think it was started from the gravel pit that was directly north and east of us and there was parking going on and storage going on and as that gravel put occurred over the years and then eventually went away the parking still was occurring and so you can look through some historical area photos and see this these operations have been occurring for some time but frankly they've been occurring under an agricultural zoning District so what this case does is it applies an industrial zoning District that brings it more in conformance both with the use but more importantly with the site and so the things and the types of questions that you're asking relating to drainage site improvements fire hydrants those things are expected to occur with this reone case um interest inly New River Road uh I agree with you it's in a configuration that's probably not optimal nor to the standards of city today um it's it's weird because it dead ends at this property it really doesn't go beyond it and I think that's likely a function of just the historical use dating back in the 1980s with the um the um mining I don't know if the word mining but the uh drainage uh Excavating that's been occurring but with this opportunity to reone the property it can actually bring the site into greater conformance which includes the half streets right rway curb gutter sidewalk a waterline extension and to answer your question um member of the commission the reason why it's questionable if a sewer line is need or not is because it's a parking lot and so as long as there's no um buildings or uh bathroom facilities that require sewer line then um it wouldn't be needed at this time if there's a requirement to build a vertical structure then of course they would have a sewer line that would be required to be installed at that time the one thing I appreciate with staff's effort and recommendation is a first stipulation requires design review approval that design R review approval is where the city's plan and engineering department has the authority to make sure that this complies all those requirements that you're asking for particularly grading changes and um roadway improvements and uh public uh facility access and things like that so this is probably the first step in bringing what is an otherwise non-conforming site into Conformity and hopefully will be um more attractive by the time this has completed its process through the uh develop design review um Prospect I'm grateful for staff's um recognition of 18 months because uh these things don't happen quickly and there's a couple of owners that have to work together and there's an intervening owner between us and Glend Del road that also needs to participate in some of these Road improvements and water line extensions and so that type of coordination helps us get there within that time frame as suggested by staff so thank you for your time and hope I was brief enough for your other items on the agenda but I'll take any questions that you might have thank you any additional questions Commissioners commissioner n Kowski just south of the property is a property called well there's a monument in front of it called squa Peak uh Park and it seems to have trucks parked there also that's not part of this development but is it part of the same ownership group it is not and I'm just curious staff if that is if they're out of compliance and we if if they if we go out and talk to them maybe we can get New River Road done at the same time instead of you know some now some later I mean it's it would help that development out we need their participation frankly because they are they lead us into the process I'd like staff to look into that thank you thank you commissioner alas any additional question okay thank you sir thank you very much the chair will now open the public hearing for z20 d10 do we have any speaker cards no Mr chairman is there anyone uh present this evening that would like to speak on this item hearing none the chair will now close the public caring on z20 d10 is there a motion I recommend the approval of the and 20-10 with the following stipulations second we have a motion and a second for approval of Z N20 Das one0 with the four stipulations chair will now conduct a call vote beginning on my far right with commissioner nyberg point of order yes sir chair members of the commission just for the sake of Clarity May recommend that you state that these are the stipulations as read by staff or as contained in the staff report just for the sake of clarity commissioner Wilfong are you okay with that yeah I was going to say you wanted me address the 18 month fine if you want to restate the motion recommend the approval for Z N20 d10 with the stipulation changed on number one from 6 months to 18 months and the rest of the stipulations that follow that correct okay we we're we're good now thank you Mr Gruber we'll now conduct a roll call vote up commissioner I Mr chairman I believe stipulation number three was also amended to 18 months that is correct okay so how about if the chair restates a motion commissioner Wong has moved for approval of Z n2010 with four stipulations as restated by staff during this evening's meeting stipulation one design review application is required for each parcel within 18 months of resoning stipulation two as written in the staff report ulation three is amended fire protection and appropriate access for fire trucks and emergency vehicles shall be provided for each parcel within 18 months of the resoning approval and stipulation four is as stated in the staff report okay and we have a second second thank you we'll now conduct a roll call vote on Z win 20-10 with the four stipulations as restated commissioner nber I commissioner Crow I Vice chair lenx I commissioner Harper I commissioner will Fong I commissioner nowakowski I and the chair votes I the motion is passed Mr guber next steps in the process chair members of the commission your action with respect to case number Z2 -10 is not final your recommendation will be forwarded to the city council for further consideration thank you very much we're now going to move on to public hearing item number four uh but before we start that the chair is going to remind the public that we are under order to uh respect the six-foot social distancing and other precautions that have been recommended by the governor the CDC city manager and everyone else that said something about that okay so we'll move on to number four West 303 Logistics pad Z N1 9-14 city council ordinance 02 actually it looks like 02-11 than you thank you Mr chairman members of the commission once again George gayer Glendale City Planning staff um this is a request for an amendment to stipulations associated with the prior approval of West 303 Crossing specifically Z1 19-14 that established a planned area development for a large industrial project um on property um excuse me located in this vicinity west of the city hall across the um um east of the 303 uh adjacent to Luke Air Force Base depicted here in this graphic this is a 7073 acre parcel um that was part of a zoning action before you in January I believe at which time the commission and city council uh approved the uh request there was a series of stipulations uh associated with the approval I don't want to read them for you I just want to kind of keep this simple um what we're here tonight to request and to respond to is um the applicant's desire to amend one of the stipulations from that approval um I'm just going to quickly zip through the slides here um this is a site plan located again adjacent to uh Luke Air Force Base it's part of the site plan detail or a couple of private access easements East and West connecting um sville Avenue to the west and alip to the east the northern alignment is akao and the southern alignment is Maryland there these are two private access driveways intended for private use um they will not be dedicated they they exist entirely within the um the parcel boundaries of this singular project um the prior action on this um request provided that the private access drives would be recorded um prior to any building permit approval on this site and I believe part of the impetus here is to make those access routes um available to adjacent development um hopefully in advance of any of that so that's not holding up the development of the ad Jason Parcels specifically the amendment would record the easements for the private roadways within the final plat that also follows the U the action on this this evening's request um we also took advantage of the situation to clarify you know the requirements regarding the street lights and uh specifically this sidewalk improvements along the South part of the uh the parcel I'm just going to skip ahead to the this is a listing of all the prior recommendations the ones were the one we're concerned with is recommendation number four I'll just read the the prior uh stipulation read as follows Public Access easements must be granted on Maryland Avenue and aael Road both private roadways before building permits are issued for any development on the property we deleted that or we're proposing the deletion of that stipulation um in favor of the following Public Access easement shall be recorded for the Maryland Avenue private roadway alignment by way of the final plat improvements alao and Maryland shall include street lights um a 5 foot wide sidewalk shall also be included along the south side of Maryland Avenue and that Mr chairman concludes my presentation Commissioners do we have any questions from Mr G uh chair has a question on the change of uh stipulation number four to five could you explain the reason that drove that deletion of the original four and the reason we're um rewriting stipulation number four right basically and you might want to ask the direct this to the applicant but from our standpoint it kind of seems like they want to uh be able to make the access Drive of available to the property to the South regardless of whether building permits have been pulled for the property to the north it was intended to provide access for either parcel but it is a private roadway it's not subject to dedication or um specific public improvements they are they're improving it to public so the change of language facilitates access to use of the access okay thanks George thank you Commissioners any additional questions just a comment commissioner nowakowski you know in the old stipulation number four it said you know the this will not be required to meet public standards so I'm glad that's out and that it will meet that seems to be improved thank you okay very good would the applicant or applicant's representative like to come forward state your name and address for the record make your presentation good evening sir good evening um I'm Mike Bush Bacher with Hunter engineering thank you for uh this time this evening I'll be really quick this is basically a modification and uh we heard this case uh you heard back in January um modification of the stipulation we just asked that uh we do this to help uh provide the access that we're looking for and that we help promote the um continuation of this private road to further assist uh adjacent developments um that's probably about well it's just basically a very quick clean kind of modification to help create a safer place for the truck traffic okay here to add anything else Commissioners do we have any questions very good thank you sir okay we have um number of cards here so the chair is going to open the public hearing on West 303 Logistics p011 9-4 city council ordinance 020 D1 and looks like we have several um speaker cards here so the chair is going to limit the uh time to two minutes per speaker and uh we did have a number of emails that arrived on a variety of topics in the last few days those emails were processed and provided to the Commissioners for our review prior to the meeting so those emails are not going to be read into the record verbally this evening however they are part of the permanent record so with that we'll start with our first Speaker Janet o o l o y do we have a Janet it looks like o l o y o n why Mr chairman we do have um speakers staging in the adjacent room so uh we'll make an announcement then they need to be aware when their name is called so um maybe if you go on to the next one and I'll walk over there and do that thank you okay uh V Sadler uh Mr chairman I apologize uh the speaker that you just announced doesn't wish to speak okay thank you that's fine um looks like Janet maybe this is a better spelling d long this one looks like d e l o b or Y deong Janet deong resident of wadell okay we'll give him a minute see there's a jack Williamson Mr Jack Williamson Mr Jack Williamson I have another Williamson looks g a y glay Williamson maybe Glory Williamson Mr chairman I'm not sure if they know that this motion is already passed and this is just an amendment to one of the stipulations I'm not sure they understand that I don't know but you know they do have a speaker card so we'll we'll give them an opportunity to speak if they'd like um another Jack Williamson and Nicole Williamson Nicole Williamson okay for the record all of the cards stay opposition I think I've called every name twice and done the best I can to pronounce those names um all these cards there are some repeats are in opposition to uh Z1 19-14 so with that the chair will close the public hearing with your permission Mr grber and um we'll call for a vote or excuse me a motion is there a motion on West 303 Logistics p a z n19 D4 city council ordinance 02-11 okay the vice chair whether you can hear him has made a motion or approval of zn1 19-14 do we have a second I'll second we have a motion and a second for approval of Z n1904 and I think we had some stipulations there so I presume you're including okay amending to number four stipulation all right with that I'll proceed with a roll call vote beginning on my far right commissioner nyber hi commissioner Crow hi Vice chair Lennox hi commissioner Harper hi commissioner Wilfong hi commissioner nowakowski hi the chair votes I and the motion is passed what are the next steps in the process Mr ruber chair members of the commission your action with respect to case number 02-11 is not final your recommendation will be forwarded to the city council for further consideration okay would the commission like to take a break at this point a 5 minute recess do we need a motion and a vote for that Mr chair M commission I don't think that's necessary okay fine then the commissioner will take a five minute recess five minute recess and then we'll reconvene [Music] he [Music] [Music] a [Music] [Music] oh [Music] [Music] oh [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] yeah [Music] yeah [Music] oh [Music] [Music] oh [Music] yeah [Music] [Music] get [Music] h [Music] [Music] yeah [Music] [Music] [Music] yeah [Music] I [Music] he [Music] [Music] [Music] oh [Music] [Music] oh on now okay good evening we're ready to reconvene the Planning Commission meeting of June 4th 2020 we are moving on to public hearing item number five alep 303 Industrial Park resoning application Z N20 d08 presentation by Mr Gard Mr proceed thank you uh Mr chairman members of the commission this is a request for a zone change to for Planned area development to be known as alip 303 uh the request would reone 73 Acres from ru 43 to plan area development to to enable U 1.16 million square ft of industrial uh floor space the site is pending annexation scheduled for Council review on June the 23rd the applicant is H Hunter engineering Incorporated the project area once again is 73 Acres this is the location somewhat east of the 303 and adjacent to uh uh south of Luke Air Force Base this is again a 73 acre block of property um along the north side of Camelback Road um um adjacent to elip Road just east of elip Road South of Luke Air Force Base um City's General plan has designated um this portion of the city as part of the Luke compatible land use area meaning specifically everything we do there needs to be compatible with what the uh the military is doing at the air base this is the site and an AAL photo of the surrounding properties many of them vacant at this time areas to the north is site north um east and west of the site are all unincorporated part of Maricopa County at this time again the subject property itself is currently subject to annexation exists directly across the street across uh Camelback Road from the City of Goodyear site is adjacent Luke Air Force Base within the 70 to 75 decel noise level range excuse me day night average sound level cont Contour future industrial and business complex development would be would need to be compatible with the Air Force Base and just kind of for your information this is a map of some of the U surrounding properties looks like those uh tags have bounced around a little bit but we have a series of U properties industrial facilities that are developing along and adjacent to the 303 U between the 303 and Luke Air Force Base large lot configurations just like the one before you uh currently uh to be known as the Ala pad we've got a number of them nearby Bethany 303 West 303 Logistics 303 they're all located just west of the uh the air base and part of the U Contour range runs from about 65 to 75 DB once again this um The Proposal before you would enable 1.2 million square ft that should say building space buildings will be planned for industrial distribution uses uh they could be constructed either as a single facility or two or more buildings on the pad the uh development standards included in the booklet would establish basically M1 type development standards uh with specific exceptions for Building height uh the floor area ratio parking and signage building would be uh increased the floor space would be increased above the M1 standards uh parking would be decreased the signage would also be increased this is the U the basic footprint that's been suggested at this point there are four primary access points um uh at the perimeter of the property along alip and Camelback just another look at the same project site this is the uh the Landscaping uh depiction and um also as part of the planetary development booklet uh have been provided a series of Design Concepts and pallets um that may be incorporated within the uh the construction of the site staff has notified um Everybody within 300 ft of the location as part of the zoning request that happened earlier in March uh we posted the applicant posted the side May May the 15th we've advertised um the uh request in the Glendale Star May 14th and also sent out the hearing cards regarding um the hearing this evening that those go out to everybody within 300 ft as well well staff finds that the proposed use is consistent with the general plan um City departments have reviewed it it appears compatible with the other planned area developments in the area um and the type of development that is occurring presently along Loop 303 we're recommending approval of Z 20-8 subject to the following that all development should be in conformance with the revised elip 303 Industrial Park Merit Partners planned area development narrative dated March 3rd of 2020 second that a traffic impact study will be required at the design review level to determine if a right turn Dell Lane will be required for the proposed driveway to the proposed site uh the traffic study will also provide recommendations on the required turn Bay length third uh due to the proximity Luke Air Force Base and FAA obstruction evaluation airport airspace analysis is required prior to council action or design review approval is required for all site development Mr chairman that concludes my presentation thank you any questions from the Commissioners for Mr gayor questions commissioner Wilfong yeah I know there's a lot of industrial uh buildings going up in this area you know along c back and a lot of the other streets and it's one of the recommendations is to have you or or was it to visit to see if it needs a deceleration Lane I would like to see that be as a a stipulation it requires to have a deceleration Lane into this area I don't know how we would go about that can we put that as a stipulation that's a question question yeah if you if you want to add that as a as a requirement when the time comes yes and see if you have support for it as I understand it though the current stipulation is that there will be a traffic impact study to determine if it will be required is that correct yes okay and I and I want to I want to make it required I don't want to study on it I want to make it required no I I understand I just want to be clear that the current stipulation is there shall be a study to make that determination commissioner n Kowski on that point any kind of traffic impact study done now during this time I don't think it'll have correct numbers but uh I do hear commissioner will Fong's a point just want to say that is like H how do we how do we look at traffic imput impact studies as staff to determine the accuracy or even though this is a new it's it's a lot of vacant land out there so I don't think the numbers are going to dictate the need for this and that's why I think commissioner is pushing for deceleration okay uh any additional questions Commissioners with that then we'll ask the applicant applicant's representative come forward please state your name for the name and address for the record and uh make your presentation welcome back this is Mike buschbacher with Hunter engineering uh address is 10450 nor 74 Street Scottville Arizona um thank you again for hearing me I'll make this um relatively quick this is somewhat similar to other industrial projects we have presented that I've presented um before and in the fact uh this is um consistent with the general plan it is the type of development that I believe um has been planned for this area uh since you can no longer build homes within this Contour noise Contour near the um Air Force Base uh it is well suited for this and and the um the market has come after 17 years of planning in this area to start to develop these properties so we think the time is ripe we think that the opportunities are good and we think it's consistent with what the city wants in the general and the general plan um with that I take any questions if you have um you heard commissioner Wong's U request stipulating that there be a deceleration Lane what what's your reaction to that inquiry um we don't entirely know exactly what uh how many buildings will be there we would like to see a traffic study to help us identify that we understand that um there will be probably some sort of an agreement between uh goody year in Glendale to resolve this and that that study will be key to that discussion in a possible IGA so um I think that's we're a little bit early but I think that the same sort of thing will come out and um there's going to be a lot of traffic on this road because Goodyear has planned quite a few industrial buildings to the south side of the road on count back um so it would be very important to look at the study at that time when we submit for the design review Commissioners any additional questions commissioner will yeah I just want to re re re reer what I'm trying to say there camel back you know where this uh site is is only a couple miles from the 303 anybody coming up camel back from this from the East side of town will use Camelback and I'm not even sure if Camelback is a developed road right now you start throwing trucks on there you're just going to create an issue in my mind would be like a traffic issue where you're you're causing vehicles to stop when a truck is making a right turn and a big truck takes a long time to make a right turn if it doesn't have a deceleration Lane so that's why I really want to emphasize the deceleration Lane understood I just want to let you know that the deceleration Lane will be part of the the right turn in um typically in a traffic study As you move forward so um they should be able to accommodate and design for the uh use of large trucks to properly slow down and make the turn would you have any problem if that stipulation becomes part of your approval this evening um I think that we should probably listen to what the Traffic Engineers have to say first um but it's a standard practice for the right turn diling to um slow down the traffic um it's really critical for large semi- trucks to be able to slow down and stack back appropriately so they don't back up other traffic but at this point I like I said I think it's a bit early um but if if it's needed we we could um entertain it you would be perfectly happy with stipulation number two though as written that if a traffic study did require or indicate that proper to had absolutely good to go okay all right Commissioners any additional questions commissioner wion anything to add oh when it comes up to make the motion okay very good well thank you sir thank you very much okay with that we'll open the public hearing on zo in2018 for the ladies and gentlemen in uh next door in waiting I will read the names if you wish to speak uh please come promptly way and observe social distancing in the hallway outside the door here and we'll try to get you to as quickly as possible I'm going to allow one minute per speaker um and we'll have a timekeeper here okay Nicole Williamson who is opposed to the application V sad opposes the application B Sadler Jack Williamson opposes the application Jack Williamson Jr opposes the application Glory Williamson opposes the application if I called your name and you wish to speak please come forward would you be gory no I wison no I'm v v oh okay very good welcome ma'am please state your name for the and address for the record and you have a minute to speak that takes care of it Veronica sadlo 6409 6409 North 177th Drive in w uh I appreciate the fact that you're going to do a traffic study but I live that way and I use Camelback almost daily and it's not unusual for me to back be backed up a quarter a mile before I can get through the four-way stop at saraville and Camelback so we need more roads out there and if you're going to put more trucks out there we definitely need a lot more Road structure thank you thank you ma'am thanks for coming in okay Glory Williamson good evening ma'am I know yall have proposing this one but they also have that cross do at the Falcon golf course that they approved I think you all have approved have you all approved that cross do no ma'am CU right there is the cross do then you're going to have this all those semi trucks and cam back like say two lane road in cam back is very very dangerous so many people run that stop sign it's not even funny if you're going north and south on that cereal you have to stop and wait to make sure everybody stops otherwise you're going to get S swiped and get killed so what are you all going to do about all these trucks coming in and out of this location and also the cross do anything else you'd like to say no I'm just when answers ma'am I'm not a traffic engineer I know but y'all just run around the mbery bush without giving us answer thank you ma'am your time is up yeah okay that uh that is the end of our public speaking cards with that the chair will close the public hearing on zo in20 d08 is there a motion can I add my stipulation it's your motion commissioner wi Fong glass on I recommend the approval of rezone the application zo N20 d08 with the subject of the stipulations or except for the traffic study requiring a deceleration Lane and not waiting for the traffic study that make sense could you restate that for the benefit of the elderly chair stipulation number two requiring a deceleration Lane and not requiring a traffic study but requiring a deceleration Lane for that that's site okay friendly amendment to that one I would position to have a traffic study as based on the testimony of Camelback Road is needed but also add a stipulation wa Wipe Out the to determine if a deceleration Lane is needed and say we require it I like that better okay so who's going to make the final motion Commissioners the plan we had a a motion commissioner wilfong's motion is there a second to that motion failing to have a second the motion dies commissioner will phone or excuse me commissioner now Kowski I I recommend approval of this request subject to the change in uh stipulation number two and that the a traffic impact study will be required and add a stipulation saying that a right turn deceleration Lane will be required for the proposed driveway okay we have a motion with an amended stipulation number two is there a second second who we got for seconds commissioner Wilfong commissioner Crow okay we have a motion and a second for approval Z N20 d08 with four stipulations the second stipulation being amended to read that a traffic impact study shall be required and that a right turn deceleration Lane shall be required with that the chair will now conduct a roll call vote beginning on my far right commissioner nyberg I commissioner Crow hi excuse me Vice chair lenx hi commissioner Harper I commissioner Wilfong I commissioner nowakowski I and the chair votes I the motion has passed Mr Gruber what are the next steps in the process chair members of the commission your action with respect to case number Z 20-8 is not final your recommendation will be forwarded to the city council for further consideration thank you thank you Commissioners we'll now move on to public hearing number six part 303 resoning application z20 d09 Mr gber thank you Mr chairman members of the commission uh this is a request for another planned area development to be known as Park 303 specifically Zone z20 d09 uh the resoning uh would change the designation for an area of approximately 340 Acres from r43 rural and M1 light industrial to Planet area development uh 234 Acres of the project are in Maricopa County awaiting annexation into the city of Glendale uh the applicant is Hunter engineering Incorporated Mike buschbacher representing um once again the area is located U somewhat east of um the U the east side of the 303 and west west of Luke Air Force Base it's depicted here by the uh the map the site is designated Regional mixed use and uh Luke compatible land use it overlaps two different use areas the darker brown to the top of the screen and the the the kind of pink color what the there is denoted like three separate Parcels they're very large Parcels they're all part of the same request this evening they fall within the uh 65 to 70 deel noise range once again a better depiction of the subject property they're in yellow um three Parcels along the east side of 303 adjacent to the um the recent Logistics uh 303 project site West 303 um Bethany 303 project sites are also located nearby um Jason properties are largely unincorporated outside of the recent annexations this also subject to uh annexation presently just to look at some of the adjacent land uses there are some U rural residential uh units located north and east of the site areas west and south are largely uh vacant there's some interim farming um activity within the vicinity as well again located just west of Luke Air Force Base land uses uh proposed in the pad narrative would enable typical M1 light industrial uses and C2 or General commercial uses uh as well as retail offices industrial Warehouse activities um the the physical development standards would uh enable um a coverage ratio of about 51% on the site the building height would be extended to 100 ft uh floor area would be increased together with signage uh the parking requirement would be decreased uh no Billboards would be allowed as part of this uh pad unless the city's uh zoning ordinance was to be amended further down the road but the pad would not allow Billboards this is a depiction of the U three Parcels to the left of the screen once again on the east side of 303 as well as a uh um a rendering of some of the adjacent um access development that's being considered in tandem with not only the development of this property but the the other sequence of industrial projects nearby this is a kind of a collaborative uh project between the uh the private parties largely um depicted to the right of the screen is an elevation rather the a landscape plan noting the uh the building layouts very similar to the Elsa project that you just had a look at access to the site is primarily um to the South and to the east here's a series of elevations um supported again this is largely a very similar project to the elip um application that you were just looking at notification regarding the request was mailed to Property Owners March 9th and again on April the 9th um virtual neighborhood meeting was conducted utilizing video conferencing on April the 23rd s's been posted in May um also advertised and hearing notices were mailed out regarding the hearing this evening we received very little any comment regarding the request at this time uh the proposed staff finds a proposed amendment is consistent in substance and location with the development objectives of the general plan um and we believe the proposal will be compatible with the pads um nearby staff is recommending approval of z12- 09 subject to the following one development should be conformance with the Park 303 pad development narrative dated June 1st of 2020 two developer sh provide 55 ft of RightWay along Glendale Avenue Bethany Hol Road and on sville road and shall be in compliance with Section A1 and city of Glendale standard detail g300 and g302 developable excuse me the developer shall also construct half Street improvements three uh developer proposal to build the Myrtle extension acao extension Maryland extension and Claremont extension as private roadways those are the East West laterals um that bisect the property such roadways shall be built to meet all uh required City standards number four all private roadways shall provide cross access easements to properties on the north and south of the said Private Road five FAA obstruction evaluation airport airspace analysis may be required at design review due the proximity to Luke Air Force Base six Billboards and digital Billboards as proposed in the pad are expressly not permitted per current zoning ordinance regulations which cannot be amended through a pad except the Billboards and digital Billboards shall be permitted if ordinances are amended at a future date that would allow them as proposed in the pad seven design review approval is required for all site development Mr chairman that concludes my presentation thank you Commissioners any question have one little quick question go right ahead sir on the front of the sheet it says it's Z 20-9 and the proposed motion is uh Z1 19-14 uh 1914 was the plus 303 we goofed it should be z129 sorry about that Commissioners any other questions comments commissioner will Fong yeah I'm going to bring up the roadway situation again you've got seril and then you've got uh your main roads Bethy Home Road and Glendale all going to the freeways there is since is there a development plan for this area for Street Improvement you've got something written here but I don't know what that means the g300 and the g302 and you know 55 ft over the rideway what is all that explaining can you explain that to me well um the city's been participating in the review of those roadway sections along with the you know the private entities um that are associated with them and um you know they'll be required to build the streets to our standards and what what are the standards Mr chairman hi Lisa Collins I'll I'll speak to that uh we've been working with our transportation department and there are specified City standards that um that are required to be met uh I don't I can't tell you the exact cross-section or exactly what that road looks like right now uh we're happy to bring that back at a later date and do a review of all roadway cross-sections to show you but I can assure you we've had lengthy discussions with our transportation staff on this yeah I just want to make a point because to the east of this development is a lot of residents and they do not have a lot of access to other roads it looks like it looks like C is their main access and now you're putting a bunch of industrial buildings in there that are going to require a lot of trucks so this has to be brought to the attention because I'm sure this is going to be brought up from the comments from the citizens anything else okay Commissioners would the applicant or applicants represent pres ative come forward state your name and address for the record and make your presentation welcome back hi thank you Mike Bush bucker Hunter engineering uh 10450 North 74th Street uh number 200 Scott still Ariz Ona uh commission and chair thank you for um listening to the presentation and hearing us tonight uh we appreciate your input and your concerns and we want to make sure this is something that is um you know thoroughly thought through and we've put a lot of time and effort into that um this is a larger portion we do understand there's going to be impact the majority of the vehicles we anticipate uh using these sites will use the loop 303 so um at both Glendale and Bethany we anticipate traffic to be more uh kind of like 90% % towards Loop 303 maybe 10% the other direction to the east so that would minimize the um interaction with a lot of the residences um which you know we did think about quite a bit um another thing was the uh East West Roads that are um not arterials there was an effort to make those private so that they're not mixing traffic between trucks and cars so safety has been something we've been ConEd about and worked on um this is um again another industrial project that's consistent with the direction the city is looking for here it's consistent with the general plan and it will provide the opportunity to um allow companies that are seeking this type of U use uh that option so we believe that this is a a good plan and then we think that it should be approved and um that's about all I have are there any question questions for anyone any questions Commissioners okay thank you very much thank you with that we'll open the public hearing on z20 d09 I have multiple speaker cards I will call each individual's name if you want to speak why please U come to the door observe your social distancing and we'll allow one minute for each speaker Angela Warren Angela Warren has questions V Sadler opposes the application I'm Angela Warren Sor you go right ahead I'm a singer I don't know how much I project until I speak sorry um thank you for giving me the chance to say something today I have been a resident of wadell um Arizona at 7824 North 177th Avenue uh for 22 years and in 22 years I've seen a lot of change uh we used to have Vineyards we used to have dunkan Farms we used to have a lot of rural family oriented things in our area and over time as it has to do because of population growth it has changed however what is being proposed in our community is so adversely different from what we have had and just looking at the uh uh Maricopa County Vision 2030 I don't know if I'm looking at the most updated one or not but looking at that um seeing how it is talking about um educating citizens on the plan um I'm hearing lots of due diligence has been done um statements have been put into the Glendale star which we are not Glendale residents so we don't don't get the glendell star um posts have been put up around the properties but there are one mile increment sections of streets and the ones in that particular area dead end and so most people don't drive in that area so they wouldn't see those signs there's a lot of things that have been passed through with the due diligence having been done with no um no awareness on our part I know that is a lot of time that I'm going to ask you to wrap it up okay my my question is can you consider all the multiple projects that are being proposed to you as a whole not individually and have a a analysis done for traffic and change according to all of those changes not just one individual project because each individual project is in such a very small area it is going to majorly impact our area thank you ma'am thanks for coming in Regina stump and right would be Herold stump Regina stump Harold stump both Mar a oppose the application Joe Karen Morel opposes the application Jill Karen Morel charmine hamr Charlene hamr opposes the application Earl rer opposes the application Cheryl rer opposes the application Janet deong opposes the application Jack Williamson thei opposes the application come on in ma'am I please state your name and address for the record and I'm sorry I got to limit you to me to one minute this evening oh that's fine my name is Janet dong I um oppose this application and to piggyback off of what the last um applicant had said one thing that concerns me that is not being addressed is The canion View High School that's at the end of Bethany Home that school district runs down to 115th Avenue now next year or this coming school year it will accomp or will allow Juniors and seniors so you're going to have a lot of new drivers going down Bethany home so please consider consider that as well when you do your traffic studies and like she had said please look at all of the development as a whole and when well that's the other project but thank you very much thank you ma'am appreciate you coming in Jack Williamson II Nicole Williamson opposes the application as Mr Jack Williamson the third uh gory Williamson opposes yes ma'am okay some of y'all said you're not aware of the your surroundings well this fourway stop sign I'm sorry ma'am your name and AD Lor Williamson I live on alup thank you okay there is for educational moment just let you know that's two lanes all four directions and at Glendale and cille is a four-way stop sign right up the road from there is a roping Arena so there's a lot of people that live in the area even in wow they have livestock that go there quite a bit even ride in the surrounding areas so right now with the four-way stops sign what about the big semi- trucks are they going to be considerate and the people building around there going to be considerate the horse people who ride horses along the side of the road because we're used to a safe surrounding to ride our horses and every and and have our livestock and they also takeen consideration the farm that goes around there the tractors and the farmers and everything from the tractors who travel through there so we got a four-way stop sign are you going to leave it a four-way or you going to be expanding the roads and affecting other people's properties are you going you take like I said consideration people who have horses and livestock who ride their horses all around their Community right in that area thank you ma'am appreciate you coming in okay I hope so Jack Williamson Jr opposes the application cisto and SEL tabani oppose the application and I apologize if I butchered your name and that is the end of our speaker cards so with that the chair will close the public hearing on z120 [Music] D90 is there a motion chairman uh commissioner will I'm kind of like still struggling what would the developers should supply for for this uh uh RightWay of glendel Avenue and all the other streets involved and since it's very vague on what is trying to detail here and I don't know what it is I kind of like like to table this if we could until we get that information you can make a motion to table chairman I would like to make a motion to table this Z N20 d09 to a later date to find out what the traffic stipulations are for this development is there a second I'll second that we have a motion and a second to table any discussion I'm going to oppose the motion to table because I think we're early in the process and what we're looking at is a zoning application not a road design and I realized that people were concerned about that you know I'm sympathetic to this lady who rides her horses out there when I was a child I rode my horse on Central Avenue and Bethany Home Road in Phoenix for years so I know how it feels to see the change coming and what what happens around you and how circumstances change 7th Avenue was basically a greased Road had uh oil on it to keep the dust down and two open ditch down the side that was it um it it's tough to see some of these changes coming and some of the improvements that need to be made to the roads they're going to be years they're going to lag years behind in some cases and unfortunately that's sort of the nature of some of these things but um with that if any other comment from Commissioners commissioner Crow uh thank you Mr chairman yeah I I I'm with you on the I mean I don't I don't really oppose this but I'm not sure what harm that it would do to have a traffic study that includes all of the concerns that have been brought up I know that this is a zoning let me ask you are they going to be able to have a indepth traffic study um subsequent to our vote tonight Mr gber that would be uh required as part of the process yes so Mr Galler would you feel that it's going to the traffic stud is going to Encompass their concerns in regards to existing plus the proposed and you know like the increased uh school down the road and you know all of that's going to come into play would you would you say that that would be included well I would say that it it would be included that's the job of the traffic engineer to take those things into consideration when they're writing the study you know it's important to include that in the scope of the study as well so that to make sure that happens and we can do that okay I probably would withdraw my second can I do that I have a comment chairman commissioner will well you you say that it's kind of like the primary is not even you know kind of like at the development stage but when they lay out lay out certain guidelines already written in the stipulation in number two it kind of like that that decision has already been made and that's why I think we should table it and find out exactly what these definitions are well we you know I mean Warren I respect you in every way we just have an honest difference of opinion I think we're looking at a zoning application on property and we have applicants and residents and and everyone else so I you know I I respect how you feel I just feel differently uh there's a stipulation to have a traffic study we've relied on that for years and years and years building out other parts of the community so I think they should be treated the same way as we've tried to treat everyone else down the line so I you know I just have a difference of opinion with you doesn't doesn't make you wrong or me wrong it just just have an honest difference of opinion but um if we stop every project that comes along because we want to design streets I I think we're overstepping our our purview here as a Planning Commission is to look at the zoning on individual individual property um you know there's multiple jurisdictions out there there isn't just Glendale there's Goodyear there's Maricopa County there's other jurisdictions that have just as much responsibility to developing maintaining roads I'm sure none of these people uh thought they were going to be next to the 303 you know or any other freeway it's just the way that it it happened it's just way that it happened so I'm I'm sympathetic but we I I don't see the Planning Commission being in Road building or design business I'm just not sure that's that's our appropriate role when you start talking about studies and Encompass an entire area um you know that's that's what we have a a traffic division working in concert with uh mcdot and the bigger the bigger ad do MC do the other jurisdictions Goodyear and so forth so anyway that's that's just how I feel but um as far as commissioner Crow withdrawing his second Mr grber is that chair uh commissioner Crow yes if you wish to withdraw your second you may and uh you can see if someone else wants to second the motion on the table no we we do have the motion and um commissioner Crow withdrawn his second is there a second on on commissioner wi Fong's motion okay then it dies for a lack of motion more and you win some and you lose some I tried I know but we're still friends I hope okay um well with that then I I will call for a motion on z n 2-09 anyone else care to make a motion Mr chair I make a motion that we approve Z N20 d09 with the stipulations contained in the staff report we have a motion for approval with the current stipulations in the staff report is there a second I'll second we have a motion and a second for approval of Zo in-9 with the seven stipulations as listed in the staff report the chair will now conduct a roll call vote beginning on my far right commissioner nberg I commissioner Crow I commissioner I beg your pardon I'm sorry Vice chair Linx I commissioner Harper I commissioner Wilfong yeah I'm going to make an explanation here I'm going to deny this because uh I would like to see in the future from staff a thorough uh layout of traffic into a facility like this in the future thank you than you it's nay commissioner n Kowski I the chair votes I and the motion has passed Mr Gruber what are the next steps in the process chair members of the commission your action with respect to case number Z 20- 09 is not final your recommendation will be forwarded to the city council for further consideration thank you and commissioner Wilfong I want to thank you for a a lively discussion I mean that's what we're here for is to to grind the sausage so you know thanks to everybody thanks for the varying degrees and opinions you're welcome why there's seven and appreciate it okay that brings us to uh the public hearing seventh public hearing of the evening Allen ranch's General plan amendments and resoning application we'll hear the cases simultaneously gpa2 -04 GPA 20-05 and z n 20-06 Mr vigil Mr chairman thank you very much I'll be making the presentation on this case Miss Collins proceed thank you very much I appreciate that so this is a request as you just stated for Allen ranches there are two general plan amendments as part of this case a minor General plan Amendment on 117 Acres of the property from low density residential to light industrial there's an additional General plan Amendment for 250 Acres from low density residential to medium density residential and then there's one zoning case Co 20006 that rezones this entire parcel to pad it's currently zoned r43 in the county there's 865 Acres total and this is pending annexation and is scheduled to be heard by the city council so the applicant for this case is withy Morris Jason Morris and Allen ranch's LLC again the project area is 8665 Acres so the subject property is shown on the vicinity map and the southern boundary is Camelback Northern boundary Bethany home Citrus to the west and the loop 303 to the east so again this is the property location shown on the zoning document the general plan does designate this area for low density residential and loot compatible land use uh as specified by the general plan so the development plan this evening depicts the two general plan amendments the one on the left is necessary for the residential portion of this development the one to the right is the industrial portion of the development so the current County zoning is shown in uh this graphic it's a series of residential districts and Industrial districts so the residential site plan as you see here shows 760 lots and the development has been through um several different phases and I know that the applicant will come up and speak about that but I did just want to say a few words about that that um they did initially submit a plan with 780 Lots they had a couple of neighborhood meetings and there was some input from the neighborhood uh so they reworked the plan and now they're at 760 Lots I also want to bring up and this might be on my next slide slide yeah these noise Contours and they also um there's also graduated density concept too that's established by Luke Air Force Base that talks about the amount of uh residential density that should be allowed in and around the Air Force Base and as we all know um the Air Force Base is particular about the kind of uses and we are too we are supportive of the Air Force Base and want to make sure that nothing is approved that would um cause them any issues and they have looked at this and have not issued any opposition but I will say that their graduated density concept would allow quite a bit more density in this area would it allow over 800 dwelling units so what they're proposing again currently is 760 units so they provided a couple of Graphics here to show what the amenities might look like in the area and and um I think they'll probably go into a little more detail but I know that was also something that came out of some of the discussions that they had uh with people in the area so here's a couple of street views uh the northwest corner of Bethany Home Road and Citrus Road facing south is the graphic on the north south is the southwest corner of Camelback Road and Citrus Road and a couple of more the northeast corner of Bethany home RO Road and Cotton Lane and theth Southeast corner of Camelback Road and Cotton Lane facing north um a couple of more comments about the the residential and we have had uh questions about Public Safety in the area and the city does of course currently have reciprocal Aid agreements with all the other municipalities which is um something that's been pointed out for all the developments in this area in addition there are there's police and fire stations planned for the West Valley uh for the western part of our city when the need arises so we keep a close eye on that to determine when that's actually necessary and I did want to let you know that the city uh does have plans to do that in the future so the public involvement um was mailed out initially on April 3rd 2020 to a total of uh 113 mailings and that includes a 3ot radius and then we also have a list of interested parties that we send these notifications to and because of the covid situation unfortunately those meetings were virtually held and uh there were concerns that were expressed and so the applicant chose to have a second virtual meeting on May 27th which they did and I believe that you have um some of the results of the uh citizen participation in your packet so again this was advertised on May 14 2020 and the site was posted on May 18th and the hearing notices were mailed May 15th so we've looked at this uh development and it's of course been reviewed by other agencies within our organization engineering Transportation police and fire which is is typical and we've determined that the pro proposed amendments are consistent with in substance and location with the development objectives of the general plan and it's uh compatible with other existing and plan developments in the area I think you saw all the development that's going along the 303 and our general plan specifically uh calls out for these kind of land uses so the recommendation is for approval of z26 subject to the development being in substantial conformance to the revised Allen ranch's planned area development dated May 88 2020 and a uh proposition 207 waiver will be executed prior to a preliminary site plan approval in addition we have that billboard condition that states that Billboards and digital Billboards as proposed in the pad are expressly not permitted per current zoning regulations which again cannot be amended through the pad process except that Billboards and digital Billboards shall be permitted if ordinance are amended at a future date that would allow them as proposed in the pad and I think as you all know we're doing a zoning ordinance reite so we'll be looking at the entire ordinance so this will give the Planning Commission and Council an opportunity to revisit this and that concludes my presentation and I'm happy to answer any questions that you have thank you thank you Miss Collins Commissioners we have questions question okay with that we'll ask the applicant or applicants representative to come forward state your name for the record sir and your address thank you very much Mr chair Commissioners Jason Morris withy Morris on behalf of alen ranches I believe we have a presentation and will I be able to control that thank Mr Shar Commissioners uh the plan you'll see this evening uh really represents the culmination of now over a Year's worth of work just with your staff uh in terms of this application uh it also involves work with Luke Air Force Base and the surrounding jurisdictions in terms of not only the overall land use but also the roadway configurations uh future traffic signalization and what we see as a really well planned well thought out integrated industrial component along with that residential component uh as we look at the site Miss Collins did an excellent job giving an overview and also talking about our application you understand that we're essentially at the foot of the Luke Runway and as you can see from this exhibit uh because of the restrictions we have uh significant limitations as to what can be accomplished on this property and what can be developed on this property as you've seen from some of the other cases this evening go through all of these because you'll get a sense of what currently exists within this area and the military compatibility uh component that was approved in 2016 and also the surrounding land uses um to the north to the east uh we're looking at either single family residential uh and some agricultural or in terms of the East we're looking at in uh both industrial and agricultural to the South we have industrial and Agricultural and to the West some single family residential but also commercial uh in fact there are commercial Parcels at both of the arterial uh Corners immediately west of this project we've discussed luk Air Force Base and the impact that is dictated by Luke Air Force Base what you can see in this indication from this exhibit is that we are not only in proximity to the overflight Zone uh much of our property uh in fact 2third of the property is not appropriate for residential use used because of both the 70 LDN and the 65 LDN which covers so much of this property given that and given the restrictions under the Arizona revised statutes there are significant limitations as to what can occur on this site uh as we look at the site history uh I don't know if it was mentioned but this site has been under family ownership for over 70 years uh it was re zoned in maroba County as was mentioned in 2016 with some of the maroba county designations uh that was for the development of a 734 lot residential community and also an industrial component uh you'll see that there have been CH changes in that plan from that time with this request and that the current request includes a larger industrial component in fact is more in keeping with Luke Air Force guidelines and creating a buffer between the industrial component and the residential component just to give you an overview in terms of the industrial component it's approximately 65 acres uh with modified M2 development standards the residential component which is 250 acres is a smaller residential component and again more in keeping with the industrial buffer and also the overflight restrictions uh but not as staff pointed out taking advantage of all of the density that is available under Luke's regulations and the concurrent regulations within the city of Glendale uh the minor General plan amendments are twofold it includes both the Luke uh compatible side and the minor Amendment for 117 Acres from a low density residential to a light industrial category there is also a general another minor General plan amendment that takes us with the 250 Acres from a low density residential to a medium density residential for the residential component on the west as we look at the proposal and again staff has done an excellent job and we appreciate their recommendation but what we're talking about is utilizing a much more restrictive plan than exists on this property today and was approved by Maricopa County in terms of the design review and also allows an industrial pad which has flexibility for building size but also has as you can see excellent access in terms of arterial roadways we'll talk a little bit more about that access and the traffic signalization but it also creates a very natural buffer from more intense uses along the west along the east side adjacent to the 303 three uh as we move west to lighter industrial and then the residential as our Western most use as we look at the industrial side uh it covers both the 117 Acres of light industrial but a total of approximately 11 million square ft under roof with the various industrial C categories it also permits Transportation corridors both to the east I'm sorry to the North and the South because of additional access to the Route 303 the residential component again very well thought out and is a series of smaller neighborhoods uh some of the things that I would like to point out in terms of the overall design is that it doesn't only offer a series of lot Siz is ranging from 75 ft in width to 40t in width but it also includes significant walking trails significant Open Spaces we'll see uh but in terms of access we were very cognizant of our neighbors to the West in Russell Ranch and you'll see that there is only one access point to the West uh which is the major access point uh along the Missouri alignment but there are significant access points along both the North and the South so that the traffic is dispersed in all directions but not just to the west and existing residential uh the projected home prices because I know that's been a question run from the high 200,000 to the mid 600,000 level I mentioned the open space because that is a significant component of this plan uh in fact it totals over 54 Acres uh or over 21% of the site which obviously allows not only a good variety of lot sizes but also a significant amount of open space for each of the neighborhoods that are being created uh there are four pocket Parks uh as well as a community center and park that's Central to the overall design uh actually miles of open space uh in terms of the walking trails uh there's a specific area with just trails and the ER area between the industrial and the residential but there is also a series of detached sidewalks along the collectors so these will be shaded walkways and a series of trails which connect the small parket pocket Parks uh one of the things that we think is a significant change and also a nod to the concerns of the neighborhood to the West is that we have been able to design uh through through a series of different roadway widths and lengths and layouts for the community uh a designation of homes that aren't a series of just backyards along the arterial roadway that separates Russell Ranch in this project as you look at Citrus Road in fact there are only despite the mile long length of this site there are only a total of six homes which actually back to Citrus uh there are if you count all of the homes including those that side on even though there's buffer ad adjacent to Citrus I think we're at 27 homes and that was done with considerable planning in mind to make sure you're not creating an Alleyway of backyards and you're not creating a series of homes that just back to an arterial roadway adjacent to other homes so our separation is significant but also the distance between the homes which creates a better layout for those homes and is a better situation for those homes from the West looking East it was mentioned that we had significant Outreach on this uh although we have not had the ability to meet in one room much like we're in the situation tonight uh of having to keep that separation we were able to hold a virtual neighborhood meeting we had significant attendance uh but there were concerns expressed at that meeting which resulted in the ownership believing that we should have a follow-up meeting to show what changes what concessions were made at that time and frankly there were significant changes made between the two neighborhood meetings in order to try and accommodate some of the neighborhood concerns uh those those dealt with density those dealt with the lot sizes offered and also dealt with the configuration of the homes uh you can see best from this exhibit that that the major change was to take the smaller Lots were which were of the biggest concern to the neighbors to the west and make them interior to our project uh as a buffer between the larger lot homes the 65 uh and 75 foot wide lots and the industrial so this exhibit illustrates that Swap and it also required a significant loss of lots in order to make that happen and a corresponding uh loss of density as you look at the changes that were made Mr chair Commissioners uh you can see it was not only the loss of lots it was also the deletion of a model complex uh the deletion of a whole series of the smallest lot sizes changing the 50ft wide lots to 55 ft wide Lots uh I I mentioned we lost 27 Lots Lots overall uh but I think most importantly for the layout of the community the larger lots are now adjacent to the existing homes on the other side of the arterial roadway uh this gives you a sense of the streetscape features the landscape pallet and also the design of the the streetscape itself which calls for a detached sidewalk along that collector so that any traffic is separated from any of the p pedestrians utilizing the park system uh there was a question during our neighborhood meeting as to the services that were available in this area not just police and fire but what we would be doing for water and sewer I wanted to assure the commission uh and also address any questions rather uh regarding the water and sewer which are both epcore and require uh again upgrades to the overall system as well as police and fire which we've heard addressed uh but also wanted to point out that there is an agreement in place with both the elementary school district and the high school district for this area uh lastly the roadway improvements I think because some the previous conversation it is worth mentioning that we have considered the roadways uh many of the roadways are entirely the obligation of this ownership because of the size of the parcel uh and that is one of the reasons why it is delayed development but this is if we look back and think back about what that area look like at the beginning of this presentation this parcel is very much the hole and the donut uh for this planning area and we believe we've done an excellent job in filling that void with roadway improvements uh full Street improvements you'll see traffic signalization uh along the arterial roadway so we really have thought about the traffic that will be generated and separating that traffic from the industrial use to the residential and allowing clear paths of traffic moving forward in summary uh Mr chair and Commissioners we have developed a site plan that accommodates not only a well-laid out industrial plan for a variety of uses uh accommodating between five and 8,000 employees in the future but also significant upgrades to the infrastructure which will be brought into the city of Glendale as new infrastructure uh We've designed and redesigned the residential component and I mention the residential component because I think it has drawn the most interest from the neighborhood and the potential Neighbors in opposition but I would also point out uh from the cases you've seen just on your agenda this evening we're probably talking about somewhere in the range of 20 to 25,000 jobs being created and it's important to have that residential within very close proximity to the jobs that are being created so we don't exacerbate the existing traffic issues and try and plan for the future uh we believe we've done so we're delighted with staff's recommendation of approval and we'd be happy to answer any questions you may have thank you Mr Morris Commissioners questions nowakowski Mr Morris uh in regards to lot sizes yes since I know on the um recommendation the stipulations it says you know conformant to the revised Allen ranch's planned area development dated May 8th 2020 so all these changes are they in the uh Allen Ranch plan area development dated May 8th 2020 or is these changes occur afterwards Mr commissioner uh commissioner I'm sorry Mr chair commissioner nowakowski yes those changes have been reflected in the most recent sub submitt to staff the resubmitted to staff so the changes both in yes both in density and in lot size okay cuz we have a uh residential conceptual site plan that shows a lot of the small Lots along Citrus so I I didn't see that what was shown here I don't believe or correct me if I'm wrong any Commission or staff um Mr chairman commissioner Del Kowski uh I believe you did get the most updated um pad which should have uh the newest graphic double Che commissioner perhaps this exhibit illustrates it best which is the former site plan is on the left with the smaller Lots adjacent to Citrus and the revised site plan shows the larger Lots swapped with those smaller lots and the decrease in overall lot size okay I'll see so I don't I don't see it I'm sorry Mr chair do you have it if I can find I I have one with and been reading emails all day yeah so let's go through the lot sizes so what's detailed on the one I have in front of me is 40 by 115 Lots what what's the percentage of that size Lots on this on this development believe it's less than one in fact that was one of the lot sizes commissioner that we uh eliminated most of those 40 foot wide Lots there is a larger selection of those in the original plan but the 18% I have documented 222 at 28% it's actually now 18% 18% thank you went from 28% to 18% that's correct and do you have the number of lots on your updated plan all right I I'll move forward thank you the 45 by 115 you have a percentage you know I'm it was 19% under I wanted to give you I'm sorry commissioner I wanted to give you that those exact numbers and I have found them even even without my glasses it's 135 Lots 135 yes from 222 so actually of all the lot sizes that is the smallest number of lots offered okay and the number of 45 by 115 181 Mr chair commissioner 181 so we went from 152 to 181 and what's the percentage 24% 24% so that's roughly of the 40s 42% okay and now you said you went from the 50 by 120s to 55 you changed that Mr shair commissioner that's correct and can you help me out with the numbers uh 149 55 foot wide Lots representing 20% of the overall lot sizes okay 65 65s are 156 Lots representing 21% of the overall lot size and if we were going to go to the the 75s as well there's 139 of the 75 foot wide Lots which represent 18% of the overall so if you look at all of the lot size offered uh it's broken down is 18 24 20 21 and 18 meaning you have that wide variety it's not just a token of any of those and because of that we're actually able to offer individualized communities of those lot sizes uh which in some instances are also suitable for gating is Cotton Lane going to be a through Street in this development uh Mr chair commissioner it's a through street through the industrial uh portion but yes and we have the WR of way Illustrated for that as well it'll be a full width WR of way okay thank you thank you sir any additional questions commissioner wi just what is the acreage on the residential is that the 117 uh Mr chair commissioner 250 Acres of residential Mr chairman commissioner uh if I may Mr Morris you I believe you mentioned significant loss of lots is this what you're referring to when you went from 780 to 760 yes sir the 27 lots that were deleted and and I uh I agree with commissioner nanowski the report I have in my packet is dated May 6th as a final report and I think you had mentioned your community outreach meeting was May 27th that's correct the second Mr chair commissioner um so I have some concerns about lot size as well uh I appreciate your Shifting the larger lots to the West I think that's a good adjustment um was there additional consideration to maybe uh further reductions in the smaller Lots the 40 by15 or the 45 by 115 um Mr chair commissioner did you mean by elimination of the Lots or shifting them to another portion of the I would be fine if you wanted to eliminate those lot sizes I appreciate that Mr chair in terms of the new design the overall layout we did want to have enough of each lot size so they could be a consistent neighborhood amongst themselves that's a I mean 40 by 115 is a 4600 ft lot yes sir that is a pretty small piece of property and my concern is that um I just think Glen the city of Glendale can do better my personal opinion yeah Mr Mr chair commissioner I certainly understand your concern uh my experience has been especially is it regards lot size you can illustrate an acre lot uh that is not of high quality and you can have a 40 foot wide lot uh which in fact most of the builders do in this Valley and you can do it in a excellent circumstance uh it's not only a matter of how it's built but how it's managed and how constructed uh so it relies not only on the ultimate developer but it relies to some degree on the HOA as well but I can tell you actually from personal experience that the lot Size Doesn't dictate the quality or the price uh it really is more inherent in the design and the construction so you can have good quality uh especially in a 45 a 40 foot wide lot thank you Mr MO said you're deeming with two flyover zones on this property is that correct that's correct Mr chair uh in fact we're dealing with not only the uh 65 but a large portion in the 70 LDN so we're limited and when we met with Luke one of the suggestions uh was to have that graduated density that graduated density uh allows as we pointed out significantly more units but we chose to have the open space instead uh at at for 54 acres and you reduced your unit count from the previous County uh approved uh frankly expensive project coming through with this application I I appreciate that I was on the general plan committee that worked with Luke on protecting the Luke and and our as were some of the other Commissioners here and it's it's threading the needle with these uh flyovers so I you know I appreciate the effort that goes into that thank you um commissioner now Kowski I want to thank you for your work in um creating detached sidewalks and walking trails and 21% open space I I I think that's great and but really I think the work's not done this area from the 303 to the White Tanks is very rural it's very desert landscaped it's it's large properties and I I believe you know when when they downsize the lot sizes at ston Haven they use that same argument it it's going to be a great development great product I believe that's true and I believe in this case it'll be true but I would like to see a minimum of 6,000 square foot and uh I think eliminating the 40s in well maybe 5,500 square foot Lots as a minimum would be better suited for this area because you you know the higher density with Luke being right on the other side and all the rural settings and fail this totally erupts that community and be it that they're not in the city of glendel uh we're not an island so we have to think of the whole area as a whole just just my opinion thank you commissioner will Fong yeah I'm going to touch on a lot of what everybody's saying here I think uh the city or this Planning Commission has approved several developments like this and uh I have no idea why they would need to change it from a low density to you know a medium density when even at a me a low density you can still stick 500 houses in there basically with the larger lots that would conform to the area that's existing right now and I think would probably solve a lot of the concerns that the residents have second thing is that you know you're throwing a lot of houses here in a area where jets fly over and one accident in a high density area will definitely put the target back on that Air Force Base and I'll tell you right now that Air Force Base is more important to me than these houses are sorry we've lost our audio standby there you go we're back Mr chair and Commissioners uh I I appreciate the sentiment um I I really do which is why I began my comments with the amount of planning that has gone into this single site uh in terms of and I'll begin with the the Luke overflights and the Luke sensitivity this plan uh was developed and designed largely in not just in keeping with the Luke overflights but actually with input from Luke uh we had the benefit of their wisdom in terms of design and where the density would be placed uh but more importantly the buffer that we have between the industrial and the residential I think is significant but the land use planning that has gone into this if we think about this region and if we envision the larger area that we've just discussed going west of the 303 uh as you go adjacent to the 303 it's certainly appropriate to have the industrial that we have planned but there is going to be a design imperative here where you don't have the industrial for the you know it's actually ironic that we've heard a handful of cases earlier this evening where the concerns have been what the impact of industrial would be on existing residential so the idea on this piece in particular is to not bring industrial all the way up to the existing residences in Maricopa County and instead provide that buffer of residential uses in between the industrial that we know will be significant industrial because of the size of the acreage we also recognize that the 303 creates a new land use for this area and a new desire for industrial but we also recognize that there should be a series of lots intervening which is why we have designed it in the way we have we certainly didn't seek to maximize the total number of homes that we could put on this site and as I pointed out we of are 26 homes away from exactly what is already approved within Maricopa County's plan so we're not talking about a massive departure uh but I also want to discuss lot sizee because that was referenced uh by some of the Commissioners and as we look at what's happening in this area although we do have some uh larger Lots immediately across the street within Russell Ranch Russell Ranch in in of itself isn't the predominant zoning pattern for that area and in fact just adjacent uh to the South and to the west of Russell Ranch are actually lot sizes in accordance with what we're talking about and in fact that as small as our two lot sizes in that area much further away from the freeway and Industrial that we're proposing here uh I think that is why we were granted staff support of this plan it was not just a an effort to throw as many Lots as we could because if that were the case we wouldn't have taken 20% of this and made it open space uh it would have been easy to put that into the Lots but that would have actually meant more less amenitized areas fewer Parks fewer Open Spaces which we think given the way Society lives today is more valuable than just putting it into an additional sidey yard so thank you Commissioners any additional questions yeah I one more question on that unfortunately wil yeah I'm on another committee which is discussing some of the CT codes and ordinances right now and the issue is parking and all other kinds of fun activity that you want to do outside your home and yes you need a larger lot to put your fun toys in and everything else and what you're proposing here that's not going to happen and I'm sure out of this 800 homes somebody's going to want an RV a boat or who knows what else and they won't have a place to park it Mr chair commissioner I couldn't agree more uh which is why you've got 75 foot wide Lots as well as 40 foot wide Lots depending upon what your lifestyle choices are we really did try and think about that as we created the entire Community I I can appreciate that but the fact is that if the house is uh too expensive to purchase and they can't afford a larger lot they have to purchase the smaller lot and still have an RV we have an issue okay commissioner Crow yes Mr Morris what um I I looked at the the County zoning and the county input that they've had on this property and um I came up with a different number I think you made a statement that the departure between what the county approved or you could do using the county guidelines versus what you've done was how many Lots I believe there are 26 additional Lots approved on this site or recommended on this site plan versus the existing County site plan thank you thank you okay additional questions anything thank you Mr Morris thank you for your time okay with that we will open the public hearing on GPA 20-4 GPA 20-05 and Z 20-06 I have numer numerous U cards here and uh for the folks in listening next door if you wish to speak why please make your presence promptly and observe the social distancing at the door before you come in um Geraldine green has questions Regina stump opposes the application hi I'm Jerry green I'm at Russell wrench and I'd like to make some statements thank you very much for this meeting this evening thank you got it um I would like to thank some of the people here that are asking detailed questions that are very important to understand what's going out where we're at with regards to Mr Morris's statement about just Russell Ranch actually it's wadell there's a lot of developments out there that actually are acor lot so that just tells you right now how little he knows about the development that he's developing right now Mr Morris um number two with regards to oh it's going to be so difficult to um uh redo uh my my son works for one of the top architectural firms in the world Gins architecture and they redo plans all the time sir um also I would like to state to you that we have gone from 23 um residential and one3 Industrial to one3 residential and 2/3 industrial what he has done essentially is taken all of the homes compacted them into this high density housing forcing it down our throat forcing it down our throat and then expanded the industrial footprint to make more money because let's face it people that's what this is about I want to say one more thing sir your is' thank you the amount of money I have spent all right now other people are not going to be given an opportunity to speak us we're proper our property values are sinking down the the toilet because of decisions you are making please be accountable with great power comes great responsibility y thank you I understand that sir thank you very much uh unfortunately when people run over on time they deny other people their opportunity so we're going to try to treat everybody fairly and give everyone a chance so I'm going to ask speakers to please adhere to your one minute so you're not cheating someone else out of their opportunity um also we're not going to tolerate personal attacks toward uh applicants staff uh Commissioners or anyone else we're going to conduct ourselves like ladies and gentlemen or I'll just simply have to shut this public hearing down and we'll go ahead and vote so I'm going to ask everyone to please comply with a few simple rules of common courtesy and politeness and we'll try to proceed with the public hearing Harold stump opposes the application Mary cross opposes the application Martha kle opposes the application and does not wish to speak Todd Knight opposes Carol Knight opposes James compeny and I apologize if I'm butchering the name opposes the application Angela Warren opposes the application again if you hear your name and you want to speak please come forward Charlene hamr opposes the application Brian bores opposes the application and your name sir you just said it sir okay very good it's all yours and I'm sorry I have to limit you to a minute but uh please State your case um so I live on 175th Avenue in wadell uh point I just wanted to make on when on your proposal thanks uh you went through the formality of the quote public involvement to 113 people with a 300t radius by your own definitions there um that's concerning to most of us because you're using your local city parameters to address our rural neighborhood two different standards there and I'm sure you'll disagree but the fact of the fact is it's a totally different culture where we live 40 minutes from downtown here um with your current parameters of 300t radius where most of us live in the room next door here that would address about eight of my neighbors a 300t radius for reaching out to the quote neighborhood that might work down the road here but it's totally irrelevant where we live I think that needs to be stretched out to like a 3,000 ft radius and I'm sorry you're out of time sir but I appreciate your comments and your courtesy thank you Michelle him himra Brook opposes the application Lois Michael opposes application Jim Michael opposes application excuse me crysto and SEL sabrani opposes the application DJ Hein Brook Hein buuck opposes the application yes ma'am hi state your name and address for the record please my name is Michelle heimbeck and I live on the corner of Bethany Home in Cotton Lane we're affected by everything that's going in right now there is a school less than two miles away maybe three and we are going to be having 2500 students there this is an industrial area there's going to be 2500 students probably, 1500 driving new drivers so I'm suggesting that you put a memorial lot or something on the corner there because it's really affecting I drive that every single day especially when school's in session and I have almost been hit I can't even tell you how many times because there is too much traffic there and it's sad and we have a way of life that we all love that's why we moved there the whole area from the 303 to the White Tanks is an acre lot half an acre lot a third of an acre lot it's not it's not here we had to drive 30 minutes to get here in glendell we live in wadell it's an a corporated area and you guys are turning it into the City and it's sad well your time is up thank you ma'am thank you very much appreciate your courtesy V Sadler opposes the application Jeff hi hi go ahead ma'am I'm Veronica Sadler you've seen me before um I'm concerned about uh so many houses and so many buildings you're going to have the an increased heat retention you can have light pollution and a young lady that was talking about uh police and fire when they're needed sounds like we need them already and Define arterial Road for me is that east west or north south could be either one okay well we've been talking about Bethany and celb back and so on but we've got cotton and we've got Citrus and they're already busy so I think that's my oh an airplane doesn't know where it wants to crash some of them are not that smart thank you thank you ma'am Jeff Herz Herz sir I'm sorry I can't Jeff herzler opposes the application excuse me Ernie britz opposes the application Ron like kleene opposes the application Kathy britz Kathy britz opposes application Barbara H zel helel opposes application Thomas parrot parat I suppose it is opposes application Mary parat also opposes the application and starded opposes the application again and if you would like to speak please come on in David Alexander does not wish to speak but opposes the application Angie Callahan opposes the application Rob and Sherry doc call Doc dockall posos the application Janet Dy believe it is opposes the application well good there you are hi thank you so much for letting me speak no thanks thanks for coming in appreciate it I live in Montana farms and it is our subdivision is 33 homes they are all custom homes the price point that that gentleman had mentioned all of the homes within that area price points are as low as 400,000 up to 1.5 million the lot sizes are anywhere from I believe that in russle r that he spoke about are transitional the smallest is 18,000 Square ft up to 3T lots and some lots are five five I'm sorry three acre lots to five acre lots so that neighborhood is not consistent with our current plans traffic is is also an issue which has been dressed in many occasions I also would like to yield to a letter that was submitted to you from Mont Farms the board please know that it does represent all 33 of us we all feel the same way so thank you so much for listening to me appreciate coming in I I did read your letter by the way I think I got two copies so thank you um Kelly biaa opposes the application Howard Thorp witfield Park opposes the application Earl Rainer witchville Park opposes the application Cheryl Rainer opposes the application um bori kapani I believe it is yes sir good evening my name is Howard Thorp can you hear me okay yeah we'll hear hear okay thank you you're welcome Mr Thorp um I live in Russell Ranch my name is Howard Thorp 18050 West Denton Avenue litfield Park I live in Russell Ranch lived there for 20 years and um I'm really surprised to hear some of these things from Mr Morris because we have oneir to one acre homes West of citrus and a lot of us have both RV garages and pools in our homes try to put that on a 45 foot lot in Allen Ranch second the industrial part of Allen Ranch should be east of cotton not West that's where all the warehouses are being built east of cotton Avenue not West second I'm surprised to hear Mr Morris as a designer I thought he was a barister but he apparently has some subjective View news about quality designs on a 45- ft lot which amazes me and finally um the County residents uh negotiated uh an agreement with Maricopa County and the local neighborhoods in in 2016 the city of Glend times up should live up to that thank you Kenneth H opposes the application Wardell uh Andrew H wadell opposes the application Mary Andress from wadell opposes the application Tamara Rodriguez glendel address opposes the application Rick rodo I'm I'm sorry I just can't make it out wadell opposes the application and uh looks like he filled out two cards but I still can't sorry I can't read the last name and that concludes the cards that I have um with that we'll close the public hearing portion of GPA 20-4 GPA pardon me where are we I don't see anybody at the podium somebody wish to speak ma'am I didn't hear you call out so can you absolutely if you filled out a speaker card I did you're more than welcome to speak and I'm sorry just state your name and and uh address for the record ma'am hi um my name my name is Julie boures and I live on 6530 North 175th Avenue in wadell and um we're pretty close to this area that we're proposing right now so I do really appreciate that all the effort that has gone in and consideration that I've been hearing how you've tried to make the Lots bigger and consider our area and everything else but it is still too small of lots there's too many people that will be there I got lost in all the numbers but 700 and something home homes there is too many it is too many for where we are we live out there I make a sacrifice to live there I could live other areas and spend less on my mortgage than I do but I choose to live there and I pay twice as much as I would somewhere else because I want my children to grow up in an area that is rural and I want them to have an area to be out and about and have that growth process my kids are in 4 4 they do animals it's extremely passionate to me and there are too many people that are going to be in this area and those smaller lots are great for those that can afford them but when you have people that can afford those smaller lots that can't afford the larger Lots there's bringing in a whole another community of people that don't appreciate our rural community like we do so I just think it needs to go back on the table and it needs to be addressed again and if you're going to put Lots there they need to be much much larger one two acres thank you ma'am your time is up thanks for your courtesy see okay with that I think that concludes our public statements so we'll close the public hearing GPA 20-4 GPA 20-05 and Z1 20- 06 I'm assuming Mr Gerber we need three separate motions and votes okay do we have a motion for GPA 20-0 4 do we have a motion for GPA 20-4 Mr chair I make a motion that we approve GPA 20-4 do we have a second is this the residential or the industrial area pardon me is it the industrial area or the residential area are we talking about the GPA 04 look at the map Okay g Mr chairman yeah the GPA 20 uh- 04 is the industrial area it's the industrial side okay we have a motion on the floor do we have a second I'll support it we have a motion and a second for approval of GPA 204 the chair will now conduct a roll call vote beginning on my far right with commissioner nyberg I commissioner Crow hi commissioner Lennox hi commissioner Harper hi commissioner Wilfong hi commissioner nowakowski hi and the chair votes I the motion has passed uh we'll next vote on or ask for a motion on GPA 20-05 which is is that industrial one too5 yes5 yes okay or okay industrial I'm sorry Mr chairman uh yes that's the residential portion yes that's the residential side 05 is the residential one 05 right what 06 that's zoning as opposed to General plan okay okay so we're on a motion for GPA 20-05 do we have a motion I make a motion to deny GPA 20-05 we have a motion to deny is there a second we have a motion and a second to deny approval of GPA 20-05 the chair will now conduct a roll call vote beginning on my far right commissioner nberg Mr chairman a question if I may so an affirmative vote is a vote in favor of the motion supporting the denial is that correct I vote I commissioner Crow nay Vice chair LX nay commissioner Harper I commissioner Wilfong I commissioner nowakowski I and the chair votes nay we have a three to four denial I now entertain a motion for approval of GPA 2-05 the notion to to deny the application has failed the motion to deny the application has failed so I'm asking for for a motion for approval of the application no I think it's the other way around I'm sorry Mr chairman so now you're asking for a motion to approve GPA 20-05 right because we had a motion tonight and it failed that leaves us four four to three pass Den it passed 4 to three denied oh I beg your pardon I I misunderstood I thought I was one voice chart my my apologies folks okay so the motion's denied yeah nope that's how it works so my apologies all right then we'll move on to z n 206 kidding is there a motion on Z in 20006 yeah I I have a motion to deny Z N20 d06 is there a second okay okay we have a motion and second for denial of Zo n2006 chair and I'll call for a uh roll call vote beginning with commissioner nyberg Mr chairman if I may offer a word of explanation absolutely I have some serious concerns about the lot size of this proposed development with all due respect to Mr Morris I don't believe I've ever seen a developer put a million doll home on of 4600 foot lot um that being said I appreciate that the question before this body is now a rezoning question and based on that I vote I okay so on I vote an an I vote is a vote to deny the application yeah the motion denial I'm sorry the motion was to deny the applic the motion was to deny I apologize I then vote no wait no my motion is to not allow them to change from low density to high density right you that's the intention okay you want to deny the z26 that was seconded so the a vote Yes is to deny the motion to deny the application and I vote nay commissioner Crow I I'd like to Echo his comments that this is a resoning proposal and not what size Lots we need to put somewhere so I would have to vote nay Vice chair lenx nay commissioner Harper okay commissioner Wilfong i' like to explain I think this area should stay the way it is this resoning doesn't conform to the existing Lots in the area and I vote nay I mean I okay well I I don't we have been here too long commissioner nowakowski I and the chair votes nay the motion to deny has failed by a vote of 5-2 so do we need a motion for the affirmative for approval or does that put us in limbo Mr grber chair members of the commission I would recommend that you have a motion for the approval so the chair will entertain a motion for approval of Z2 0-06 is there a motion Mr chair I make a motion that we approve zo n 20-06 sub stipulations in the staff report we have a motion for approval is there a second move commissioner Harper seconds we have a motion in a second for approval of z20 d06 the chair will now conduct a roll call vote commissioner nyberg commissioner Crow again I this is a zoning issue not a lotsize issue so I will vote I thank you Vice chair LX I commissioner Harper I commissioner Wilfong n commissioner nowakowski the chair votes I pardon me no problem that that was a nay vote okay and and the chair votes I the motion passes with a vote of 5- two Mr chair thank you for your time you're welcome sir thanks for coming in okay that brings us to um the final public hearing item of the evening thank you for everyone's patience we want to spend the due time to sort these things out that brings us to the cotton properties resoning application Z 17- 15 and I want to remind um the participants and and our visitors that this is a zoning application not an annexation hearing uh this is strictly a zoning application we are not annexing anything that is not within our purview here here in the Planning Commission so with that I'll call upon Miss Collins to make your presentation thank you Mr chairman and Commissioners so cotton properties Z n715 is the request before you this evening for a pad now this property um is already annexed in to the city of Glendale it was annexed in January 14th 2020 and when it was annexed next in it was brought in as the most similar uh land use zoning that existed in the county which was A1 so the request is a rezoning to pad planned area development the applicant uh representative is William lai with Tiffany and Bosco for the Bethany cotton Bethany LLC 303 cotton LLC so the vicinity map shows the location of this property in uh proximity to City Hall uh it is over uh with the western boundary on Cotton Lane Bethany Home is the southernmost boundary Glendale Avenue to the East and this is an L-shaped parcel which does adjoin the loop 303 on the southern area so again this site is des designated as mixed use and loot compatible land use by the city of glendale's General plan again the current zoning is A1 and the proposed zoning is planned area development and there's a a closer shot of the area showing that kind of L-shaped lot so once again these noise Contours uh designate the types of development that can occur in this area so the cotton property is a 65 and 70 LDN which uh does not permit residential development so the aerial photograph shows Once Again The Proximity of the cotton 303 property this is a street view uh aerial or I'm sorry a street view photograph of the area showing Cotton Lane on the right side of the screen so the general character plan that has been submitted to the city shows this area as along Cotton Lane as primarily um industrial Flex space uh with a small Corner down at the 303 and Bethany as a possible Commercial location so this uh request has been around for quite some time um when the cotton properties wanted to Annex in to the city of Glendale and uh so in 2019 they did mail out information we got no input additional notices were mailed out in February of this year and there was discussion about possible uses and uh since then we've had several comments and um emails and letters regarding this case so the request was advertised and the site was post posted on February 19th 2020 and hearing notices were mailed February 28th 2020 so the staff in conjunction with uh other departments within the organization um has made the following findings that the proposed amendment is consistent in substance and location with the development objectives of the general plan and specific area plans again this is along the loop 303 and our general plan does suggest that these are the types of uses uh that should occur there additionally a letter from the Luke Air Force Base indicates that this propal proposal will not negatively impact their operations and that is generally um well that is a practice that we have in this area again because uh we're very sensitive to Luke Air Force Base and want to make sure the land uses around there are compatible so the recommendation again is approval of zo7 195 subject to the following stipulations that development is in substantial conformance with the pad the planned area development that was uh revised dated January 31st 2019 and it will be subject to design review approval by our development services department additionally there will be dedication of additional rightaway on Glendale Avenue Bethany Home Road to provide total half width of 65 ft and those dedications will need to be uh made before any building permits are issued additionally we're requiring half Street improvements and lighting and sidewalks along Glendale Avenue Bethany Home Road and again those all have to be completed uh along with the development of the site uh traffic study is going to be required at the time of design review to determine the need for deceleration um right turn lanee and a left turn lane and I will add that um the the transportation department does look at this in conjunction with the types of uses that would be allowed in this zoning category and the roadways that are in the area for the the loop 303 and and those types of things so that has been looked at and with that uh again we're recommending approval I'm happy to answer any questions you you may have okay thank you Commissioners do we have any questions for Miss Collins okay would the applicant or applicants representative like to uh state your name and address for the record make your presentation thank you Mr chairman and Commissioners uh Bill all for the uh record 2525 East CB Back Road Thank you Lisa uh representing coton properties this evening on this 160 acre uh reone property we do have a PowerPoint I know it's been a long night we've got some slides and what I what I would like to do is is go through a few slides preserve some time at the end for some Q&A maybe after some of the resident conversations uh have been made you're more than welcome to do that I mean just like our folks in the room over there they want their chance to and we want to make sure everyone gets their opportunity so you take the time you need thank you Mr chairman and again 160 acre rezone tonight three types of commercial categories uh you'll hear a lot about a specific user that's uh interested in the property that's 10 acres of the 160 acres and we'll get to that I'm sure everyone's heard of what we're talking about but let me walk you through just general location Again Luke Air Force Base noise Contours are extremely important in this area you heard a lot from uh Mr Morris and other applicants tonight about uh Luke Air Force Base noise Contour use limits in terms of restrictions on those properties I'll get to a slide that'll show you exactly what we're talking about uh again it's an L-shaped property Bethany home to the South uh cotton to the West the 303 to the east um it does have freeway Frontage um it's going to be part of this ginormous employment Corridor uh you've seen a number of projects that's come in front of you this evening and I did did a little inventory as we we're sitting here there's 24 million square ft of industrial warehousing approved on the agenda tonight 24 million square F feet Luke Air Force based noise Contours obviously dictat what the city of Glendale can do it's in the state law I know many of you are very very involved uh for many years uh at this level and and and watching as the state law changed from 2004 to help protect Luke Air Force Base we'll talk a little bit about that history I know you're very familiar with it but we've got to play Within those rules this evening you see a majority of the property is covered by the noise Contours uh severely limits the type of uses uh this is a little bit about the The Limited of uses it it references the state law references the code you're very familiar with it I'm not going to belabor the point um and here's kind of how those knowing Contours fall on the property this is the land plan that uh Lisa put up it has a commercial parcel at Bethany home and the freeway a flex industrial piece just to the west of that so in between the residential and the commercial property you'll have a flex industrial you have industrial going all the way up uh the along cotton and then another commercial node uh to the north on Bethany or on uh to the north this list some of the uses uh what we try to do is just pick a lot of the the likely uses this will walk you through uh some of the intended uses for those three separate categories we have commercial we have flex and we have industrial it's going to be very very similar to a lot of the pads that you've seen tonight one of the main differences is that we do have commercial components commercial components on the south and Commercial components on the North so as residential does grow as employment grows in the area there is going to be Retail Services provided this shows you how um a component would work this is very similar to some of the uh industrial buildings that you've seen on some of the other pads this evening buffers on Cotton um internal parking uh building layouts going to be very similar up and down this entire Corridor this is going to be a massive industrial warehousing Corridor and in a massive amount of job production you know for Glendale likely what it's going to look like this is very similar to other projects uh built in the area uh we already have Architects and users interested in all of the parcels who are looking looking to design this to be very attractive from both the residential View and from the freeway view to to Really set that tone of highquality uh job producing industrial and Glendale again sort of a layout of what that would look like so we get to the heart of the matter the truck stop everyone wants to talk about the Love's potential here uh Love's Truck Stop has an interest in this piece of property adjacent to the freeway uh that commercial property is about 1,300 plus feet away from the existing residential right about the 1334 is where that large uh Flex industrial building will be acting as a buffer between a potential truck stop Travel Center and any existing residential we held a neighborhood meeting online we had about 180 folks online uh gave a lot of input asked a lot of questions I will touch on a few of those but we'll probably answer some of those towards the end because it's very user specific Alex Fuller from Love's headquarters uh real estate manager is here with me tonight that can answer any particular questions related to the to the Love's potential use but again this is 160 Acres of employment this is 10 acres of it what we did is some of the issues that came up was is how does this compared to other loves in in the valley crime noise light some of those things we compared it to uh probably the closest truck stop and it's a lovees truck stop in Buckeye so this is the travel stop in Buckeye ironically the location of it from residential is almost exactly the same the one mile radius um if you took look at the number of homes that are with one mile radius of the loves in Glendale versus the loves in Buckeye you have about 325 homes within a one one mile radius in Glendale 525 homes within one mile radius of this we were asked a lot of questions about well this is you know crime what are the crime stats on some of these particular users you know so we went through and compared Apples to Apples the the Buckeye location is about as close in terms of demographics number of homes in the area the number of traffic um that's going past that I 10 in that area versus the traffic that's on the 303 uh to try to compare what's happening in Buckeye to give a picture of what could potentially happened in Glendale we accumulated 5 years worth of crime data because that was really the big thing and it should be I've got four kids myself I live in a neighborhood I want my family to be safe and so I you know very much wanted to answer the question is this going to produce crime into the existing neighborhoods there's going to be a buffer there's going to be a sound buffer and a noise buffer and a light buffer but is there going to be crime in the area we did an analysis of the Buckey loves the analysis is in front of you uh 574 four calls over a 5year um mostly traffic and theft um welfare checks uh agency assist those violent crimes that people are making assumptions that that happen there are not existing in Buckeye um there was a a question as we went through the process well you know Buckeye had an investigation about some of their crime data reporting uh we looked into that Buckeye absolutely looked into it the FBI looked into it the numbers that are out there that we used are correct numbers uh any number uh that was modified during the investigation in 2017 has been corrected none of those numbers for their truck stop were uh modified during any of the investigation and so we really are comparing Apples to Apples I know there's some questions about the tallison site and we'll get to that in a few minutes and talk to you about it but really what we try to do is through the neighborhood effort and the neighborhood meeting gather all of the questions we put all those questions and answered on a website we actually created a website for the community to view uh we posted all of the Q&A put that out on the website and push that out to everyone so everyone could have any unanswered questions um on a website that anyone could go to again if we're really talking about the the the L's location which is 10 acres of the whole 160 this is the economic impact I know there's an appearance of an impact into the Community but if you look at the financial impact on on Glendale what you'll definitely see here is a very nice in economic impact from a financial standpoint and from a job standpoint this application actually was submitted way back in 2018 it's been in the process for a couple years as Lisa indicated uh we had the neighborhood meeting last month we've continued this case at Planning Commission twice to allow for more uh input from the neighbors so we could get to answer out to the community again I've got a couple slides here that have all of the Q&A I don't want to go through every single one of them now because you're going to hear some of those questions I'll come back up and give you some of those answers but that Q&A is out there for all to see um again the the here's here's a copy of the website it's 303 cotton.com so it's it's out there for all to see I'm going to so this these are the answers I'm not going to read through I'm not going to go through all of these um you know it's out there for all to see but but I'll leave you with some general comments you know the it is consistent with the general plan it's consistent with Luke Air Force Base as as as this body knows Luke Air Force Base was somewhat under attack in the early 2000s the state legislature changed the law in 2004 Glendale along with a lot of West Valley Cities ended up suing Maricopa County in 2009 through the Attorney General's office to stop Maricopa County from issuing any more single family permits to protect Luke Luke has been a uh a massive generator in the West Valley job job generator and for many many years the property owners in this area were told no more residential hold on Commercial and Industrial it's on its way for 25 years the West Valley uh Mayors and council members and and leaders like yourself lobbied mag to get funding for the 303 so all of the dreams have happened the land owners have set idle not developed their property not pulled residen building perits the 303 is there 24 million square ft of industrial was approved tonight all of those have trucks and where are those trucks going to go if they don't have an organized clean place to go they're going to go into the neighborhoods they're going to park elsewhere the loves is the hot button on this case it's not going to be you know it's a potential issue but I'm trying to walk you through the fact that the cat is out of the bag with the employment Corridor the employment uses are going to be there the loves will be an amenity to the truck traffic in the area it will be a safe safe organized clean amenity the L's family and the L's brand is best in class across the country if you're ever going to have a truck stop in this Corridor you want loves here so Mr chairman happy to answer any questions but from a big picture this Corridor is is developing uh this Corridor needs a facility like this for the truck traffic and this cor this truck facility will be buffered from existing residential uh Mr chairman Commissioners happy to answer any questions and I know there'll be opportunity to answer some specific issues later thank you Commissioners do we have questions okay no questions thank you sir appreciate it thank you okay we've got a nice stack of Citizen cards here I hope you folks can hear me over there I will call your name and uh pardon me if you wish to speak why hustle on over and we'll make sure you get your chance um I've got a real stack here so again we're going to stick with one minute her speaker and I'm going to ask that you respect that so that the other people behind you get their opportunity to speak and I would appreciate it extend courtesy to the applicants and to the commission and staff here um we don't want to go down that road again so folks we don't uh we don't uh invite the signs in either you're welcome to post those outside but we don't allow them inside the meetings and I'm also going to ask for you to observe some social distancing here so we can keep everybody healthy uh as we've been instructed by the governor in the CDC okay Alex Fuller Alex Fuller approves and supports this application good evening everyone my name is Alex Fuller and I'm the real estate project manager for L's address is 10601 North Pennsylvania Avenue and more than anything I'm just here to listen and help answer questions thank you Mr fer Geraldine Green from witfield has questions hi Jerry green Russell Ranch I would like to apologize for my last out verse to the committee but I just want you to know that we I the home I have and it is a home the home I have I have worked my whole life for two jobs I I came from Ireland and I worked my butt off to get that home and the choices and decisions that you gentlemen and ladies are making tonight profoundly impact my my neighborhood my home not a house my home and we are relying upon you to please use your conscience with regards to this Love's truck stop it is going to massively impact us you may not think that but it is and I really really hope you will take a long hard look at this and think carefully thank you very much thank you ma'am I appreciate that Martha kibo people I'm sorry if I'm butchering that that's all right thank you please state your name and address for the record Mr Mr chairman members of the commission my uh my name is Martha Coyle my address is 7438 North 81st Avenue I live in Clearwater Farms which borders the proposed Love truck stop location I'm here in person because of the disparity I saw between the report that you received and what actually happened in the neighborhood meeting our input and concerns were rephrased into questions which were then either refuted or rebuffed the meeting did not Foster communication nor did it have a neighborly Spirit but it did indeed meet the letter of the law the research presented earlier tonight regarding the Buckeye loves is not new research as a result of our questions it it that also was presented at our neighborhood meeting um like the meeting met the letter of the law so will the proposed love stuck truck stop it will comply with the zoning and with the proposed usage but it is bordering our community by literally one half block it sounds like a lot of feet but that's a half a block out there where we live it's inappropriate I know it's good for glendale's Revenue I cut the whole middle out of this um this particular location has been ma'am I'm sorry but we're out of time and we got a lot of other folks that want to speak I'm sure so thank you okay I also I think the truck stop next to a fairly high-end neighborhood like this is not what you're going to see in Buckeye thank you sir thank you ma'am apprciate that folks I'm going to ask you to uh please remove yourselves in the chambers here we're under some very specific guidelines and if I don't clear the area I'm going to have to close the meeting down to the public so if the public wants to participate they need to follow the protocols that we've mentioned earlier about social distancing and spacing yourselves outside and we'll call your names and you're welcome to come in and if you wish to speak but I've got to ask you to observe that for us and the same thing goes out in the hallway we don't want anybody getting sick or uh having problems so please help us out with that okay thank you Jamie burn opposes the application good evening hi thank you I'm going to take my 60 seconds well my name is Jamie burn I live at 17328 West Rose Lane which is basically that little corner that this will affect and I'm going to take my 60 seconds because all of my wonderful neighbors will list the reasons of loves but why would such a large agenda item with so many opponents be put in a meeting like this now we have 60 seconds I can't list all of the reasons why loves is is not good for my home or my grandchild plays why am I given 60 seconds to state that I can't you know I I just don't understand why you would put such a large agenda item you we've been waiting out there for 4 hours to speak for 60 seconds this has been going on for months but the amount of reasons that loves is not acceptable next to our homes Buckey's homes the most recent one that sold in Buckeye was a single wide for $110,000 ours are 550 to 1.5 million where in Arizona is a truck stop next to that type of a neighborhood they're not your time is up thank figure yeah well we have a lot of speakers and we want to give everyone a chance Michelle I'm buck a opposes DJ heuk opposes are you Michelle yes I am hi yes ma'am please I'm Michelle HCK I live at 6104 North 171st Lane on one of the graphics it said that we were 1300 and whatever odd feet away and and I understand what you guys are trying to do again we're on the corner of Bethany home and cotton we have Jets they fly all the time and we knew that when we purchased we love Luke okay we're not opposed to truckers that has nothing to do with anything what we are opposed to is the youth in our neighborhood that is growing they're bringing in elementary schools they're bringing in Middle Schools they're bringing in high schools the high school's already there we went from having a general store which everybody pretty much knows all the kids in that neighborhood and now you're going to bring in a Love's truck stop that is is less than 3/4 of a mile away do you realize the impact that's going to have on the students and the kids and the community I just want you to really think about that there is all right thank you very much thank you ma'am appreciate it Sam Dutton opposes the application Sandy Dutton Mr Dutton the sir Noe I was just before DJ hbook and uh okay catch that one too so uh yeah just want to get together with you guys uh essentially what we're all here for is basically to obviously State a lot of concern for safety you know that's the biggest issue that we're looking at here you know there's a lot of development going on in the area and as my wife stated we are right at the corner of Bethany home and cotton you know put it into perspective that's actually my kids' bus stop right there so when they're out front and really you know what the zoning is really coming into is allowing to put a truck stop with 50 trucks sitting out there you know right and right kids are sitting out there for school so obviously we have a concern with that and of course with the development everything that's going on in the area that's going to be a big threshold with a lot of traffic and of course you know wh if it's Buck guy or wherever else you there's a lot of crime a lot of things associated with the truck stop like that so we have a lot of concern for our families and we have a lot of concern for our community and the biggest thing that we can do from being here and talking to you all is to at least throw out there that you are keeping that on consideration in with the zoning and obviously with the truck stop to consider you know everybody that's in that neighborhood and what the effects really going to be thank you thank you sir Jim Michael opposes the application Lois Michael opposes the application B Sadler opposes the application time to get in come on ahead sir good evening good evening uh my name is Jim Michael I live at 17231 West Glendale Avenue and I'm basically down here to speak from my experience I mean I've lived in that area for 30 years in the last 30 years I've known of three Jets have crashed around in that area there's also several houses that are sitting uh lots that are sitting there at ban and Cotton Lane that they won't even permit them to build a home on but yet we can go ahead and put a truck stop in and put 50,000 gallons of fuel underground I don't quite understand how that works that way but I also know that I've been in construction for 50 years and I've been around truck stops and they bring in a lot of prostitution they bring in uh crime that not ass shouldn't be associated with those kind of residential areas and I plead with this board to turn down this zoning on this uh truck stop it's not something for a residential area especially for my area thank you very much thank you sir de hets heter Barbara looks like HS HS I'm sorry if I'm push you on that they both oppose and Stoddard opposes the application Mary parat opposes Thomas parat opposes Russ Thompson opposes hi sir Russ Thompson I live in Russell Ranch uh I run a 500 truck company that's based in glendell and I've been in the trucking industry my whole life truck stops aren't good neighbors you look at a warehouse that brings in 50 trucks a day you look at a truck stop brings in 500 trucks a day how many people are Bridget Maui do Mai new Kurt ma do Are You Bridget yes and I apologize if I butchered the last name it's okay we actually say it MX MX okay I was trying to make it too complicated that's all right all right uh my name is Bridget mullinex I live at 6726 North 171st Drive our home actually faces Cotton Lane and the property in question here tonight um our biggest concerns are air quality um um my husband is got cardiac issues my stepson is asthmatic and I have an autoimmune disease um we're also worried about that commercial area that's in front of our home what mystery property is going into that area we're all concerned about the loves we're we're concerned about the loves but what is planned for that commercial property in front of our area if loves doesn't go in over on the other side maybe they'd go in front of our house um but with loves comes um um the loves on Roosevelt had several complaints of burglary unwanted guests auto theft assault with a knife trespassing noise fights drugs um we don't want the noise the trash the traffic the crime and I ask you all of you would you want this in your neighborhood and in front of your home thank you ma'am your time is up um Mark Waxman opposes the application Dina waitan opposes the application James capalini opposes the application l capellan or copany opposes the application Mary cross poses Tim Callahan poses Angie kah hand James Marshall Nora Marshall opposed the application Tina Thompson opposes the application hi good evening I'm Tina Thompson I live in Russell Ranch uh one of the points I wasn't thinking of but brought up when Lisa was talking about the street improvements she addressed Glendale she addressed Bethany she did not address Cotton Lane is anything going to be done with Cotton Lane before any permits are issued so I'd like to bring that up um in previous meetings they talked about that no Resorts or hotels could be built in this Corridor why are we going to let hundreds of trucks sit there with truckers sleeping in them at night not to mention the 50 60,000 gallons of fuel that could be impacted by a jet crash traffic crime all the things everybody else has reiterated those are my main points thank you for hearing them thanks for coming in ma'am Janet Delaney opposes Sherry and Rob DOL oppose the application Gloria Williamson opposes Brian Borges good evening sir good evening my name is Brian bores I'm the father of five kids in wiell and I'm here like everyone else on the other side of that wall to oppose this truck stop because it infringes on the health and good of my family and everyone else's family uh just a side note regarding uh the studies quote studies from the lawyers the traffic studies the crime studies the school safety studies the stuff that they've showed you where everything is good in our discussion a couple weeks ago we addressed a lot of those things poked holes all over in them so just because you hear it doesn't mean it's true uh the bottom line is this we all know what this is about um the bottom line here is money I mean let's just face it it's about how much money and revenue either for loves as well as the city of Glendale there uh here's the thing I want you to consider it's all game gain for the city of Glendale and it's all lost for us we have no say so because we're outside of your city limits um the with the dollar being the most important issue here for the city um you'll notice a lot of passion from us because it's not about the dollars it's about our lives and our livelihood so you're going to sense passion from just about every person that walks here you're stepping on our Liv Hood I know it's just dollars for you but it's our livelihood for us your time is up thank you sir Zack cahan opposes the application Ron kleene opposes the application CJ I'm sorry I can't make out the last name opposes looks like Johnson opposes the application Bing Davis oppos Israel Burton Holton would you give a copy here my name is Bing Davis I live in wadell um I don't have time to give the speech I prepared but I wanted to point out a couple things lastly in regards the citizen participation report provided by Tiffany and Bosco dated May 29 2020 this report was disparaging and misleading the summ summary provided by Tiffany Osco was document mented his questions to take advantage of an opportunity to begin each response with a no it did not accurately illustrate the context of the meeting the issues documented on pages 3 to six in the citizen participation report are not pres presented as questions but as comments by the cotton property neighbors during the visual meeting comments from people who work in the medical community who are experts in their field can relate to respiratory diseases and what causes them comments from neighbor and a trucking truck stops a track you just heard from some of those the detouring into the city streets the drivers take the overnight parking along city streets urine bottles being tossed out at truck cabs on two city streets your time is up thank you Mike excuse me I believe you called Israel Hatton yes sir after B yeah please go right ahead um I timed this it's a minute so please let me finish thank you uh my name is e I live in Clearwater Farm 7431 North 181st Avenue my father-in-law moved his family to Clearwater farms in 1983 he built the home that my wife and I now own with his own hands our children live there two of our grandchildren live there that's four generations that have continually lived in this community we represent families that are deeply invented invested in the face of our community our neighborhood is filled with families that have been there for 40 30 20 years to ignore our voices the voices that are overwhelmingly saying we oppose this would be wrong it's that simple it would be wrong we don't believe any of us oppose growth but we should have a voice in what things come to our neighborhood we oppose a truck stop I've heard people appeal to you tonight based on how long they've been working on these plans I've been working on my plans in my neighborhood for 25 years my wife has been working on her plans in this neighborhood for 37 years the people in that room have been working on their plans for our neighborhood and our livelihood for Generations as long as a truck stop is potentially part of this plan we oppose it thank you thank you sir Mike deserve better thank Youk you thank you ma'am I'm here sir yes sir alen Erikson wadell Arizona I handed out a 30-page pamphlet to uh three copies to the Planning Commission I hope you have them it dealt uh it deals directly with crime and it rebuts Mr Allen's contentions about crime it's it's quite alarming the I do want to address however no sir there is a a button on there may be a button you bumped or did I hit a there you go we had it for a minute hello I'm back on you're good okay I wish to address Tiffany and Bosco's um report the neighborhood participation report the question was Will traffic increase in the area the respon was I quote verbatim no the applicant meaning loves conducted a comprehensive traffic study to adequately address any neighborhood traffic concerns the study concluded that the proposed development would not negatively impact the surrounding traffic because the traffic increase would be minimal and unnoticeable and we're out of time thank you sir we got we got more people waiting their turn it's wrong Paul Alexander hello my name is Kevin burn I live at 17328 West Rose Lane in wadell um the proposed Love's Travel center is less than 1,600 ft that is equivalent to 400 yards that's a walk around a football field um that's approximately 480 steps so a simple walk around a average Glendale block um a gal Darlene ewalt was sitting on her patio one evening talking on the phone to a friend about an upcoming cruise on a late Summer Night being watched and hunted then out of the darkness came an as salent wielding a long knife she screamed the killer slit her throat stabbed her many times and then walked back to his rig at that was parked at a truck stop the question I have is loves can protect its grounds and property Glendale can protect its jurisdiction how is loves and Glendale PD going to protect the residents of wadell in Maricopa County 480 steps away from our neighbor we're out of time thank you sir they can't charene hamr penneth H hi I think my name was read earlier and I missed it but my name is Mary Andress I live at 6524 North 175th Avenue in wadell um my husband and I rais our four boys would be one mile from the proposed truck stop my husband and I also own a trucking company and so we are very familiar with loves and what goes on there um we oppose having the L's truck stop there um I have personally spent a lot of time with my husband driving I've spent time at the loves those trucks idle all night there's a lot of noise there's a lot of it's like a little city for truckers they have to have so many hours down and so they stay there at the Love's truck a lot of times with nothing to do bringing in drugs and different things that are not suitable for our community I can understand how it would be very profitable for the city of glendell but it doesn't profit the community of wadell so I ask you to consider the families that live there and how it affect us thank you thank you ma'am Andrew H opposes Tamera Rodriguez opposes Regina stump opposes Harold stump opposes cherl rer opposes Earl rer and that looks like the end of the cards so yes ma'am did you fill out a yellow card on this I apologize I did not notice till it was too late ask you to fill one but before you go okay what I was going to say is I actually put both of the uh application numbers on one card so I can fill out a second one I didn't realize I needed a separate one long as we got you for the record we're covered thank you thank you um my name is Angela Warren I live at 177th Avenue in wadell I am an expert in sex trafficking and human trafficking um a licensed Master social worker I work as a child and family therapist and I have been extensively trained in trauma um care and trauma therapy for victims want you to think about the reality of the loves Community has said that they are actively involved with the anti-trafficking movement which only validates that it's a reality my husband also is a truck driver I've heard extensive stories from him and his colleagues about things that go on at truck stops in general not just loves it is an issue it is is it is a worldwide issue it is an Arizona issue I send an email with a very long statement but both most of the things that I wanted to say at this moment in time is that this isn't just about what is the letter of the law or your rules but it's ethics as well like my neighbors have said we're timed out I appreciate your time thank you thanks for coming in okay was there anyone I called that did didn't get their opportunity yes ma'am family come did you fill out a speaker card ma'am I did but I think I filled out the wrong code because this was the one I wanted to speak at but I'm happy to fill one just go right ahead ma'am state your name and address for the record please my name is Crystal subnani I live at 5621 North 179th Drive Lichfield Park uh my home AB but citrus from my backyard I can see where the proposed loves truck stop is going to to be uh since I heard about this I have laid awake at nights it's pretty much all I think about um as a parent of two children one that's going to be driving in a few years um I'm not going to go into all the details about what happens at truck stops I've done my research just like everyone else has and there's a lot of things that concern me about it and to be honest I'm not going to feel safe living in my own home with a truck stop less than a mile from my home the thought of selling the home that my children grew up in their feet touch those floors and I have memories in that house it's not about the safety it's about feeling safe in our home home and we're we're timed out ma'am thank you thank you I appreciate you coming in all right with that we're going to close the public hearing for Z 17-15 is there a motion I closed the hearing oh I'm sorry I didn't hear that that you wanted to make a closing statement I apologize yes than thank you Mr chairman and Commissioners um I wanted to preserve some time at the end here just to sort of address some of the concerns because we talked a lot about these issues uh in the neighborhood meeting there were a couple members who who um took exception with the neighborhood meeting uh summary I guess and we we did a zoom call with 182 folks so you can imagine trying to document every single sentence and everything we did our best to try to put questions what our answers and response were it's online for all to see we're trying to be as very as transparent as possible and I think that the the one thing that I think is lost here is there's a lot of concern about the impact of the Love's truck truck stop and there's a lot of comments I heard tonight is it's I live right at cotton and it's right it's going to be right across the street well this is the location of the truck stop on the aerial in front of you in between the truck stop and the existing residential it will be an industrial building industrial building of 30 to 40 feet tall which will block much of the noise much of the sound much of the light much of the fumes it was located toj into the freeway for that very reason because we have land to buffer off um so a lot of the the the issues tonight that you talked about in terms of uh environmental impacts and traffic are going to be uh mitigated because they are right next to the freeway they are not next to homes um you know we we compared crime stats of Buckeye because it's absolutely the most comparable Apples to Apples uh in the city there there there's a a complaint about maybe homes in Buckeye don't cost as much but in terms of number of homes that are near that truck stop are actually double than the number of homes here but again let me reiterate Glendale has supported Luke Air Force Base for for 50 years 20 years ago there was an effort to make sure that this area was protected no more residential the 303 was built the West Valley applauded the 303 this is now an amazing employment Corridor just tonight 24 million square ft of industrial uses were approved that is going to be a lot of trucks this use will absolutely be safer if this use isn't here where the trucker going to go they're going to go in the neighborhoods they're going to park on Cotton they're going to park on Bethany Home and they're going to park in the neighborhood the concerns tonight were overwhelmingly we don't want this in our neighborhood well without a clean organized truck stop they'll be in the neighborhood so Mr chairman commissioners this use has to be in this Corridor it has to be at this location next to the freeway if not here where 24 million square feet approved just tonight you have to have a use to support those truckers and a Safeway loves is Best in Class across the country they're the best person to do it they hire security guards routinely and they will they will do the same thing here and they will run a clean and safe Space Mr chairman Commissioners happy to answer any question any questions commissioner commissioner Wilfong yeah thank you how does the how does the loves uh maintain the Maricopa County uh idling restriction ordinance Mr chairman commissioner you have to explain the ordinance to me diesel vehicles are not allowed to idle longer than 5 minutes under most circumstances ordinance applies to diesel motor vehicles weighing more than 14,000 lb operating in Maricopa County regardless where the vehicle is registered how is that handled it loves uh Mr chairman I'm going to uh ask Mr Fuller to join me at the at the podium there there are a number of truck stops all over Maricopa County I don't know specifically how these truckers will will address I believe that's a pm10 uh attainment uh environmental regulation since there are truck stops gas stations all over the all over the entire County uh I assume there's a way to to meet that regulation I live half a block from a school every single day there's 12 buses idling for about an hour every single morning those are diesel those are huge I assume they find a way to meet that ordinance um but I don't have a specific answer to you other than it it would appear to me that it's it's attainable second question did love uh attempt to find another area along the 303 at any time around the Northern Parkway I looked on the satellite map there's open Lots there that didn't have not a lot of registry or residents in the area M Mr chairman uh commissioner I'd invite Alex the real estate manager to come up to the podium and he can talk to that I will tell you A lot of those properties I I I zoned one on Northern Parkway and 303 um to residential so I know there it's outside the the noise Contours so a lot of residential uses are going to go outside the noise Contours up there I don't know exactly what parcel but I'll I'll let Mr Fuller um comment on his inventory uh review of the area yeah as far as our investigation went we started at the end of 2018 and spent about 6 months researching the whole 303 Corridor and I worked with Mike Schwab a local broker here and we identified three to four different sites talked to property owners and for one reason or another one site wouldn't work out whether the property was already sold for a development or the landowner just didn't want to sell and that's how we ended up settling on this property and put it under contract in June of 2019 okay Commissioners any more questions all right thank you thank you um commissioner n Kowski um this question is for Mr Fuller I guess in terms of loves a big concern tonight was the number of trucks the uh idling trucks air quality that's going to happen from all the idling trucks is this going to be a 24hour loves yes the loves facility and the restaurants will be 24 hours so the restaurants and the loves will be open 24 hours and is there a certain amount of uh parking spaces I heard 50 trucks 60 trucks in Buckeye there right now on our conceptual site plan we're proposing 75 and for some context yes Buckeye has 50 to 60 truck Parks the Travel Stop we have in tson has over 100 okay and then U there was a concern raised by a resident saying U security could not detain or arrest so they would call the local police law enforcement if something would would occur there right correct and there's several travel stops that we currently have HED secur security through a third party it's not typical and part of our business model but it's something we always listen to and evaluate and if we think there is a concern and it's expressed by the city and residents then we will and the truckers that would visit this site uh they would be sleeping in their in their rigs not inside any location ins inside of loes they explain they would be able to shower shop eat in the loves is that correct correct so in the Love's actual facility there's a convenience store there's a couple restaurants there's showers and bathrooms for truckers and there's also just bathrooms for cars Vehicles residents and convenience store um but as far as any kind of dwellings or sleeping area there's nothing of that sort located in the uh facility okay and my last question what I'll I'll save my last question good thank you okay commissioner commissioner Crow yeah one more thing sorry just didn't catch you quick enough uh you can easily hire off duty police officers whether it's the sheriff's office or buck ipd or whatever and they can certainly detain an arrest so you don't have to go with Ren aop you can hire off-duty police officers which there's hundreds of them out there that' be glad to do it okay noted and that's something too that I've discussed with our operations Department they're the ones who handle that make that decision and we are having a conversation right now so if that is the case then I'd be happy to get them in contact with you and whoever you would recommend well I'd recommend the sheriff office for a selfish reasons but um the the the situation is that um I think if the word gets out that there are police officers there full-time off-duty officers and they will be arrested if they're in violation of some uh ordinance or some law I think that will help deter uh just from the mere fact that the word gets out commissioner n kovski Mr Fuller I remembered my question now come on back prior to this meeting there there was some new stories and conversations saying that it's not a um you're considering putting the loves at this site is it a consideration or does loves want to be at this site yes or no yes we do have a desire to be at this site it is just under contracts we haven't purchased it there's still multiple approvals that we have to receive such as this one and city council so yes but like I've said before it's a possibility that we might not develop here okay it it it's from the testimony and the resident's reaction looks like a Love Walks Like a Love quacks like a love so we're talking loves for this development so I think that's what the the vote's going to hinge on all right thank you thank you Mr chair okay um Miss Collins uh this application is is really a zoning application is it not Zoning for their property not necessarily a specific user thank you Mr chairman and members of the commission yes it's a 161 acre planned area development uh and it is a zoning action there are no uses no specific uses um that would be determined by this commission through a zoning action and the proposed application would allow for potentially multiple uses there in addition to or in lie of a truck stop is that correct sure Mr chairman you know on the the graphic that was shown there's some Flex areas and then there is a commercial area at this intersection of loop 303 and Bethany Home Road and then up at um at the the Glendale intersection so you know those areas would focus on Commercial uses and there are uses that the applicant has specifically said that they would prohibit but there are multitude of commercial uses that would be allowed to locate within this area so the commission sh should there be a motion is is voting on a general zoning that would stay with this property whether or not there was a truck stop or a loves or any other brand brand of truck stop um and that truck stop could go away but the zoning does not go away yes Mr chairman that's correct again this is about land use and not about specific tenants or users so yes the land use will be there um as recommended and approved by the council whatever that land use is and then the specific users would come in and they would be allowed if they were permitted within that specific land specific zoning category correct okay so we're really not although they loves may be potentially a buyer or user of this property we're not voting on loves we're voting on a zoning application tonight that's correct and the land use that would be in perpetuity before after whatever that any truck stop or any operator that's correct Mr chairman thank you with that uh the chair will call for a motion Mr chair I got a question yes sir I apologize a prohibited use 5.2.3 it says any use associated with overnight days how would that pertain to a 24-hour truck stop with people sleep in there Mr chairman did you want me to answer that question yeah if you'd like to or maybe the applicant wants to the the applicant May if if he would like to uh those that type of Regulation deals with hotels and things of that nature and in particular because of the proximity to Luke Air Force Base something like that would not be allowed Mr chairman if I can also just add to that Lisa is absolutely correct um the 5.2 prohibited Lane use is associated with um the portion of the property with on this map that you see within the 65 LDN lines so there are certain restrictions uh on the 65 LDN lines for overnight stays uh as you can see uh the Love's potential site is outside the 65 LDN line so for each one of those categories we have a separate allowed use prohibited use so uh Mr noski was reading from the the land uses and permitted uses within the 65 LDN and those were established in the general plan yes Mr chairman again when we look at those types of uses it's it's a primary use and the primary use would be a place where people would live where there would be overnight stays okay very good I I I have another question here now if we pass this zoning then and Love's desires to come in after it's passed uh what's the process does it come to us Council or is it just a permitted use and it has the correct zoning um Mr chairman uh commissioner owski yes if um any of the uses that are developed here would be processed through our design review which is an administrative process unless there was a use permit in which case it would come back to you so it depends on the use okay well I see some of the prohibited uses are YMCA and recreational clubs and Child Care Center religious missions and some of the allowed are you know Trucking warehousing is it if we put a conditional use permit a travel stop subject to cont conditional use permit would that mean that if they do decide to come in at a later date after the zoning is approved that they would have to come before us and we'd have to go through this all again Mr chairman commissioner now Kowski anything that is a a conditional use permit yes that's that's not part of this pad application so but yes cups do come before the commission anything else commissioner n Kowski yes I once I I will be making a motion to make it a conditional use permit okay okay I would I would like to propose that a travel truck stop is subject to a conditional use permit add that as a as a conditional use permit director Collins I'm not sure we have the authority to decide what is a conditional use permit or not so I'm I'm not sure it's a valid motion could we get some direction Mr grber perhaps I don't think we can do that I'm I'm not sure this commission has the authority to just decide what requires a conditional use per minute what doesn't Mr chairman um so I would say you know this is this is a request for a planned area development and the Planned area development that we have uh has uses you know structured in it there's there's no advertisement for that um I guess I would ask the applicant too what what their thoughts are on this but it it seems um it seems a little problematic to do that at this point I'm just U concerned that you know we have a zoning application and um if it if we even have the ability to convert that to a conditional use permit at this point I mean think a conditional use permit would be walked through planning department and the background staff report and so forth that's typically how we handle a conditional use permit so I'm questioning whether we had the ability even consider creating one um in a meeting Mr chairman if I could just volunteer just a statement um course many times whether it's in Glendale and other cities the the code specifies uses Allowed by right uses allowed through conditional use permit uses allowed under certain circumstances then the code further goes on to talk about criteria by which the uh board whether it's a commission or city council um evaluates the conditional use permit here's some five criteria that you have to review um I would be somewhat reluctant and somewhat concerned to just simply throw this into a conditional use permit category without identifying specific criteria that are more akin to understanding the the the the Dynamics of this use the zoning code usually does that the zoning codes usually and and Mr guber or Miss Collins will um correct me if I'm cor incorrect here but zoning codes usually for conditional use permits spell out your test that I have to um meet and so I'm I'm a little concerned about blindly agreeing to a use permit tonight for a particular use without even knowing what I'm agreeing to chair Mr grber thank you chair members of the commission yeah I would Echo that point keep in mind that the way our code handles conditional use permits they are approved or denied by this commission um because this is not city council without getting too much into the legal background um because city council is essentially delegating a power to the Planning Commission it has to spell out the specific criteria by which the Planning Commission can make that decision because the Planning Commission doesn't have the legislative power that the city council has and and that was my concern I would certainly Echo what Mr L said about that concern you would need to have really specific criteria to make that determination okay then of course uh commissioner Nasi you can make any motion you wish and if you get a second but um I personally I would be weary of introducing a conditional use permit on any application at this stage of the game Adam just call for a motion whatever it may be okay do we have a motion on z n 17-15 Mr chairman Commissioners if I could sweeten the pot to Tad um I think a lot was said tonight about security crime um in talking with Mr Fuller um he um so we could stipulate certain uses although a conditional use permit criteria hasn't been identified tonight A stipulation could be added to the case that for a 24-hour Travel Center use uh security must be provided either through off-duty cops Andor private security let's say from 600 p.m. dusted on or you know something to that effect to that is a enforcable stipulation um that would be enforced by Glendale can be enforced it's very clear tonight what that would look like it would be very clear to us uh and that may help alleviate the concerns that crime is going to happen unchecked and I think that was a lot of what we heard tonight so we would well the other hand if there's no loves then there's a stipulation that says this property has to have off-duty police officers I mean we don't know that there necessarily is going to be a loves or any other truck stop now if you're willing to agree that there's going to that once we stipulate it then that's going to be the anticipation that that stipulation is going to be met it becomes part of the zoning so yeah Mr chairman I think the stipulation would read something like this which if a 24-hour Travel Center truck stop is developed on the property the applicant shall provide security uh um not less than Dust Till Dawn or six to six uh by either off-duty officers Andor private contractors and the applicant agrees to that additional stipulation is that correct yes we do okay yes sir thank you um well Commissioners do we have a motion it's a Moment of Truth Gentlemen We either approve or deny but tonight's the night we've got to we've got to do something here so Mr chairman I'll make a motion so that we could vote uh it's on a zoning uh not truck uh not the L's truck stop so I approve the uh I recommend we approve Z 17-15 to the stipulations contained in the staff report is there a second support we have a motion and a second for approval of z715 with the four stipulations as written in the staff report the chair now conduct a roll call vote commissioner nyberg I commissioner Crow uh Mr chairman I classify my vote what we're doing tonight is strictly voting on a pad zoning it has nothing to do whatsoever with a truck stop of any kind whether it's L's or anybody else's so for the fact that I don't have a problem with the pad zoning on this 160 plus acres I vote I vice mayor WX a mayor now vice vice mayor I woke him up not I commissioner Wilfong uh I V A there's just too many questions out there commissioner nowakowski explaining my vote there was over 60 residents and I I welcome the residents of wadell you made glendell a more populated city today uh and one gentleman said there's power of money and power of people and I I really believe you you showed up show showed the power of of people which influenced my my decision tonight and I vote nay and the chair votes I the motion is passed Mr guber what are the next steps in the process chair members of the commission your action with respect to case number Z 1715 is not final your recommendation will be forwarded to the city council for further consideration thank you okay that concludes our uh public hearings for this evening and that brings us to other business we have other business Miss Collins no Mr chairman we have a staff planning report no Mr chairman we do not okay commission comments and suggestions any commission okay I'm going to suggest that we put a workshop on the radar and maybe we could talk back backfill what that'll look like but I'd like to get a workshop going maybe before the summer recess uh with Council absolutely thank you Mr chairman Mr chairman to that nber thank you to that point one of the things that I think we need to discuss at that Workshop is the notification process I've discussed a couple of thoughts with uh chairman and HS but I think our notification process really needs to look like it does in with General plan amendments where the city is kind of in segments uh fully developed sections of the city 300 ft Works um a lot of the places where we're seeing this new development 300 ft is not not really achieving the desired results so if you think about how the general plan there are the city is divided into into different sections and I think we need to look at something like that for our notification process so I'd like to see that on a workshop agenda absolutely thank you thank you okay very good well uh next meeting of the Planning Commission is scheduled for Thursday July 16 2020 6:m in council chambers and um I'd like to remind people that now that it's hot provide your pets with adequate shade and fresh drinking water uh with that I'll call for a motion forment so moved we have a motion and a second for adjournment all in favor say I I I any POS no okay we are adjourned thank you appreciate was a long [Music] night [Music] yeah [Music] G [Music] he [Music] [Music] oh [Music] [Music] ah [Music] [Music] [Music] oh [Music] oh [Music] yeah [Music] [Music] yeah oh