>> OKAY, FOLKS, WELCOME TO THE 29TH MEETING OF THE 25TH CITY COUNCIL, WE'LL CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER. WE'RE SORT OF DOING A HYBRID TONIGHT, COUNSELOR BENTON IS TAKING CARE OF THE WEST WING BY HIMSELF. ALL OF OUR COUNSELORS WILL BE PRESENT BY A DIFFERENT METHOD, COUNSELORS JONES AND PENA ARE PARTICIPATING BY ZOOM SO YOU WILL SEE THEM ON THE TV FOR THE FOLKS HERE WITH US. THAT MEANS WE'LL HAVE ROLL CALL VOTES TO WE CAN MAKE A RECORD FOR THE COUNSELORS THAT ARE ATTENDING. THAT EXTENDS US JUST A LITTLE BIT. BEFORE WE DO MUCH ELSE I'LL ASK THE VICE PRESIDENT TO START US WITH THE PLEDGE. >> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT, WILL YOU ALL JOIN ME WITH THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, I'LL ASK COUNSELOR SANCHEZ TO LEAD US IN SPANISH, THEN A MOMENT OF SILENCE. THANK YOU. >> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. >> JURO FIDELIDAD A LA BANDERA DE LOS ESTADOS UNIDOS DE AMERICA, Y A LA REPUBLICA QUE REPRESENTA, UNA NACION BAJO DIOS, INDIVISIBLE, CON LIBERTAD Y JUSTICIA PARA TODOS. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, FOLKS, WE HAVE A FEW HOUSEKEEPING MATTERS TONIGHT, I SEE SOMEONE FAMILIAR, SOME FAMILIAR FACES, SO I'LL GO THROUGH THE RULES OF THE EVENING, HERE'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO, SOMETIMES WE BOUNCE AROUND TO TRY TO HELP PEOPLE OUT FOR FOLKS WHO ARE GOING TO BE HERE FOR A PARTICULAR TOPIC AND BE SURE WE GIVE THEM TIME BECAUSE SOMETIMES THESE MEETINGS RUN TO MIDNIGHT AND PEOPLE OFTEN DON'T LIKE TO STAY HERE THAT LONG, HERE'S WHAT I THINK WE WILL DO, WE'VE GOT A BUNCH OF THINGS TO TAKE CARE OF, BUT ONCE WE GET THROUGH THE PROCEDURAL MOTIONS IF THE REST OF THE COUNSELORS ARE OKAY WITH IT, WE'LL GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT AND THEN MOVE INTO THE APPROVALS, THE LEASE WITH UNITED IS THE ONLY ITEM ON THE AGENDA. MY GOAL IS TO GET DONE BEFORE A DINNER BREAK, SO FOR THOSE FOLKS, WE'RE DOING OUR BEST TO KEEP THAT MOVING FORWARD. WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT WHEN WE GET TO PUBLIC COMMENT, YOU HAVE ALL THE TIME ALLOTTED TO YOU, BUT IF YOU WILL HELP US MOVING FORWARD WE'LL TRY AND GET YOU OUT SO YOU WON'T HAVE TO WAIT FOR US FOR AN HOUR TO COME BACK AND FINISH THAT. SO WE'LL DO THAT FORE FOR THE FOLKS HERE TONIGHT, TO DO SCHOOL, WORK AND ALL THOSE OTHER THINGS AND TO GET READY FOR THE POST-SEASON. BUT HERE'S SOME DO'S AND DON'TS. CIVIC PLAZA PARKING PASSES ARE PROVIDED FOR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, YOU CAN OBTAIN A PARKING PASS FROM COUNCIL STAFF AT THE TABLE NEAR THE CHAMBER'S ENTRANCE. MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC CITY STAFF AND MEDIA HAVE THE ABILITY TO VIEW THIS MEETING IN PERSON AND ON LIVESTREAMS THROUGH FOUR DIFFERENT PLATFORMS: GOVTV ON COMCAST CHANNEL 16, THE GOVTV WEBSITE, YOUTUBE, AND ZOOM WEBINAR. THE LIVESTREAMS CAN BE ACCESSED FROM MOST SMARTPHONES, TABLETS, AND COMPUTERS. ALSO THIS MEETING IS CLOSE CAPTIONED. PLEASE CONTACT OUR STAFF IF YOU NEED THAT. AS I MENTION, WE TRY TO BREAK AROUND 7, BUT WE'LL EXTEND THAT UNTIL 7:30 OR 8:00 OR UNTIL EVERYONE GETS HANGRY. WE HAVE A NUMBER OF RULES FOR COMMENT, IF WE HAVE A DISRUPTION, WE'LL STOP THE MEETING AND GO THROUGH THE RULES AND REMIND YOU, GIVE YOU A WARNING, IF ANYONE HAS A SECOND OR FURTHER VIOLATION, WE CAN ASK YOU TO LEAVE THE MEETING. BEYOND THAT, WE WILL MOVE TO OUR ORDER OF AGENDA, MADAM VICE PRESIDENT. >> THANK YOU, PROCLAMATIONS AND PRESENTATIONS. AT THIS TIME, THIS IS THE AWARENESS WEEK, ALBUQUERQUE AND BERNALILLO COUNTY ARE HAVING FENTANYL AWARENESS WEEK, THE CITY AND THE COUNTY WILL HAVE A SERIES OF SPEAKING EVENTS AND RESOURCES AVAILABLE. YOU CAN FIND MORE INFORMATION AT THE WEBSITE CABQ.GOV. I'D LIKE TO WELCOME JENNIFER BURKE, SHE'S DOING WORK WITH YOUNG PEOPLE WHO HAVE TAKEN THE BRAVE STEP OF SEEKING HELP FOR AD-I CAN SAY. SHE KNOWS ABOUT THE DEVASTATION IS THAT FENTANYL IS CAUSING IN OUR COMMUNITY. THIS IS A PROCLAMATION THAT JENNIFER BURKE, DAVID BURKE, KELLY OPP, SARAH N., DEBBIE THOMAS, TANYA T., VIVIANNA, COMMISSIONER BARBOA AND BEGIN GILBERT R. ARE HERE TO ACCEPT. WE HAVE RESIDENTS FROM SIERRA MESA, WE'RE THRILLED TO HAVE YOU ALL. COUNSELOR BASSAN. >> MADAM VICE PRESIDENT, FENTANYL IS A SYNTHETIC OPIOID PAIN REFER PRESCRIBED FOR PAIN AFTER SURGERY. IT IS 100 TIMES MORE POWERFUL THAN MORPHINE AND IT IS MANUFACTURES ILLICITLY IN FOREIGN LABS TO INCREASE THE POTENCY OF THE DRUG AND IT IS ALSO PRESSED INTO PILLS TO MAKE IT LOOK LIKE LEGITIMATE PRESCRIPTION OPIOIDS. >> WHEREAS 42% OF COUNTERFEIT PILLS RECEIVED BY THE U.S. DRUG ENFORCEMENT ADMINISTRATION CONTAIN AT LEAST TWO -- NOT SURE WHAT THE MG IS. MORE THAN TWICE THE LETHAL DOSE. >> IN 2022, THE DEA SEED MORE THAN 59.6 MILLION FENTANYL-LACED PILLS AND POWDER, WHICH IS MORE THAN 395.7 MILLION LETHAL DOSES OF FENTANYL. >> SYNTHETIC OPIOIDS LIKE FENTANYL RAILROAD PRIMARY DRIVER OF DEATHS ACROSS THE UNITED STATES. >> WHEREAS THE DRUG IS PRESCRIBED BY A LICENSED MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL AND DISPENSED BY A PHARMACY, THERE'S NO WAY TO KNOW IF IT'S FAKE OR LEGITIMATE AND WITHOUT LABORATORY TESTING THERE'S NO WAY TO KNOW THE AMOUNT OF FENTANYL IN AN INDIVIDUAL PILL. >> WHEREAS THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE AND BERNALILLO COUNTY ARE COLLABORATING ON FENTANYL AWARENESS WEEK, THEY WILL PROVIDE SUPPORT AND EXPERTISE IN UNDERSTANDING RESOURCES AND PREVENT CRIMES. WHEREAS OPIOID ADDICTION IS TREATABLE. IT IS PROCLAIMED THAT OCTOBER 22ND, THROUGH THE 30TH IS FENTANYL AWARENESS WEEK. IF YOU OR SOMEONE YOU KNOW IS STRUGGLING WITH ADDICTION DON'T WAIT TO GET HELP. TALK TO YOUR HEALTH CARE PROVIDER OR THE BERNALILLO COUNTY DEPARTMENT OR OUR FRIENDS AT SERENITY MESA HEALING AD-I CAN SAY IN OUR COMMUNITY. I WANTED TO THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING, MS. JENNIFER, CARE TO SPEAK? >> SURE, THANK YOU, THANK YOU COUNSELOR GROUT, MR. CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, WE APPRECIATE YOU RECOGNIZING FENTANYL AWARENESS WEEK, WHICH IS NEXT WEEK AND FOR THE PROCLAMATION, I WAS PERSONALLY AFFECTED BY THE OPIOID EPIDEMONSTRATIC WHEN MY SON PASSED AWAY IN 2011, FENTANYL DIDN'T REALLY EXIST IN THE STREETS BACK THEN AND THE OPIOID EPIDEMIC HAS GOTTEN WORSE BECAUSE OF FENTANYL. I HAVE WITH ME FAMILY MEMBERS WHO HAVE PICTURES OF THEIR LOVED ONES WHO HAVE BEEN LOST TO FENTANYL POISONING AND OTHER MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY WHO ARE PART OF THIS TASK FORCE AND ADVOCACY TO BRING AWARENESS AND EDUCATION TO COMMUNITY MEMBERS. WE HAVE POSTWARDS WE'D LIKE TO PASS OUT TO YOU ABOUT AWARENESS COURSES THAT WILL HAPPEN NEXT WEEK WHICH ARE SPONSORED BY THE COUNTY AND THE CITY AND A CANDLE LIGHT VIGIL AT CIVIC PLAZA. WE'D LOVE TO SEE YOU GUYS ATTEND. I'VE ALSO BROUGHT WITH ME SOME CLIENTS FROM SERENITY MESA. THEY WORK HARD EVERY DAY ON THEIR SOBRIETY AND SCHOOL AND WORK AND ALL THE THINGS THEY DO TO GET BACK ON TRACK. THEY'RE OUR FUTURE AND I'M SO PROUD OF THEM FOR COMING TONIGHT. IT'S NOT EASY TO COME TO THIS, I'M SO PROUD THEY'RE HERE. THANK YOU GUYS. [ APPLAUSE ] >> I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE AND YOU YOUNG ONES, I'M SO PROUD OF YOU FOR TAKING THOSE STEPS, REACHING OUT TO GET THAT HELP AND PARENTS, THOSE THAT HAVE LOST LOVED ONES, MY HEART BREAKS FOR YOU. AND THANK YOU FOR ADVOCATING FOR YOUR CHILDREN AND FOR TO HELP OTHER PARENTS TO HELP THEIR CHILDREN. THEN I WANT TO THANK THE COMMUNITY. I LOVE THAT WE'RE COMING TOGETHER AND WE'RE WORK, BECAUSE IT'S SERIOUS. I CAN'T IMAGINE WHAT YOU ALL HAVE GONE THROUGH. I DON'T WANT TO KNOW WHAT IT FEELS LIKE, BUT I WANT TO HELP YOU, SO I APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE AND THANKS TO THE CITY AND THE COUNTY FOR WORK WITH EVERYBODY. THANK YOU. [ APPLAUSE ] >> COUNSELOR SANCHEZ. >> THANK YOU, MADAM VICE PRESIDENT. I HAVE A PROCLAMATION HERE RECOGNIZING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AWARENESS MONTH. WITH US TODAY, I HAVE MS. TERESA GARCIA,ESS CHAIR OF THE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AND SEXUAL ASSAULT COMMISSION AND THE CO-CHAIR, THEY'RE BOTH HERE TO ACCEPT. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO RECOGNIZE IS THAT DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IS SOMETHING THAT TOUCHES US ALL AND IT'S VERY, VERY QUIET AND PEOPLE DON'T KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON. YOU COULD BE AROUND A PERFECT FRIEND, PERFECT STRANGER, YOU COULD BE AROUND INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE PART OF YOUR FAMILY AND, YET, THIS DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IS REAL. SO I JUST WANTED TO GO AHEAD AND GO THROUGH THIS PROCLAMATION AND PRESENT THIS AND THEN AFTERWARDS I'LL LEAVE YOU A FEW WORDS AND THAT WAY YOU CAN TELL US EXACTLY WHAT YOU DO AND WHAT YOU ARE ADVOCATING. WHEREAS DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AWARENESS MONTH PROVIDES A CRUCIAL OPPORTUNITY TO RAISE AWARENESS ABOUT DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, HONOR VIVORS AND REMEMBER THOSE WHO HAVE LOST THEIR LIVES TO DOMESTIC VIOLENCE-RELATED INCIDENT DENTS AND WHEREAS THE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AND SEXUAL ASSAULT COMMISSION HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED BY THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE WITH THE SUPPORT OF THE CITY COUNCIL THAT CONSISTS OF A GROUP OF LIVED EXPERIENCE SURVIVORS, EXPERTS AND LOCAL ORGANIZATIONS WHO ARE COMMITTED TO PREVENT AWARENESS AND INTERVENTION STRATEGIES FOR DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AND SEXUAL ASSAULT. WHEREAS THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE IS DEDICATED TO ENHANCING A COORDINATED COMMUNITY RESPONSE TO ENDING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, SUPPORTING SURVIVORS AND CREATING A COMMUNITY WHERE SAFETY, RESPECT AND EQUALITY PREVAIL. WHEREAS WITHIN THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE WE'RE FORTUNATE TO HAVE A COMMISSION OF DEDICATED ORGANIZATION AND ADVOCATES WHO WORK TIRELESSLY TO SUPPORT DOMESTIC VIOLENCE SURVIVORS, OFFERING THEM HOPE, SAFETY, AND A PATH TO HEALING. AND WHEREAS COMMISSION OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AND SEXUAL ASSAULT -- OF CENTRAL NEW MEXICO, SEXUAL ASSAULT, NURSING EXAMINERS, THE COALITION TO STOP VIOLENCE AGAINST NATIVE WOMEN, ARE PILLARS IN OUR COMMUNITY PROVIDING CUBICLER SERVICES LIKE SHELTER, COUNSELING, LEGAL ASSISTANCE AND EDUCATION TO THE SURVIVORS, P.M. POWERING THEM TO REBUILD THEIR LIVES. WE EXTEND OUR DEEPEST APPRECIATION OF LEADERSHIP OF LIVED EXPERIENCE, SURVIVORS AND ADVOCATES WHO DEDICATE THEIR TIME, EXPERTISE, AND COMPASSION TO SUPPORTING SURVIVORS AND RAISING AWARENESS ABOUT DOMESTIC VIOLENCE. THE ALBUQUERQUE CITY COUNCIL DOES HEREBY PROCLAIM OCTOBER AS DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AWARENESS MONTH. THANK YOU. AND MS. TERESA GARCIA, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY A FEW WORDS? >> I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU, COUNSELORS FOR RECOGNIZING THE PROCLAMATION TODAY. I JUST WANTED TO READ A STATEMENT THAT I READ TODAY AT OUR COMMISSION MEETING. DURING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AWARENESS MONTH, WE TAKE A MOMENT TO EMPHASIZE THE NEED TO ENHANCE OUR COMMUNITY RESPONSE TO AID SURVIVORS WITHIN THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE. IT IS A TIME TO RECOGNIZE THE COMMISSION ON THEIR DEDICATION TO THIS CAUSE AND TO EXPRESS DEEP GRATITUDE FOR THE EFFORTS IN OCTOBER AND BEYOND. SURVIVORS OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AND SEXUAL ASSAULT FACE UNIMAGINABLE CHALLENGES AND IT IS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF OUR COMMUNITY TO STAND WITH THEM, OFFERING SUPPORT, UNDERSTANDING AND HOPE. WE ARE GRATEFUL TO THE LOCAL PROGRAMS THAT SERVE VIVORS, WHERE THEY PLAY A ROLE IN PROVIDING SERVICES THEY NEED FROM COUNSELING, TO SHELTER AND LEGAL ASSISTANCE. TO ALL THE ORGANIZATIONS, INDIVIDUALS, AND MEMBERS WHO WORK TIRELESSLY TO PROVIDE THESE CRITICAL SERVICES, WE EXTEND OUR THANKS, YOUR WORK MAKES A DIFFERENCE IN THE PATH OF SURVIVORS, IT'S A SURVIVOR, I'M GRATEFUL TO BE SITTING AT THE TABLE WITH EVERYONE STANDING UP HERE WITH ME AND ESPECIALLY MY CO-CHAIR, WHERE WE ARE JUST ONE OF MANY WHO NEEDED OUR VOICES TO BE HEARD AND WE'RE BOTH GRATEFUL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE ALONGSIDE THE COMMISSION MEMBERS TODAY. THIS DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AWARENESS MONTH, LET'S REAFFIRM OR COMMITMENT TO CREATING A COMMUNITY WHERE SURVIVORS ARE HEARD AND BELIEVED AND SUPPORTED AND UPLIFTED. TOGETHER WE CAN MAKE OUR COMMITTED A MORE SAFER AND COMPASSIONATE PLACE FOR ALL. THAT STARTS WITH ALL THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION AND YOUR SUPPORT. THANK YOU FOR THE PROCLAMATION TODAY. [ APPLAUSE ] >> WE NEED TO ALWAYS REMEMBER THERE'S MANY INDIVIDUALS OUT THERE THAT ARE SURVIVORS RIGHT NOW AND THEY'RE NOT SURE HOW TO DEAL WITH THESE SITUATIONS. PLEASE, PLEASE MAKE SURE THAT YOU CONTACT ONE OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS IF YOU ARE A SURVIVOR, BECAUSE YOU ARE A SURVIVOR AND MAKE SURE YOU TALK TO SOME OF THESE FOLKS THAT ARE HERE BECAUSE WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT YOU GET THE HELP AND THE SUPPORT THAT YOU NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU GET THROUGH THIS. SO, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING HERE. WE APPRECIATE YOU. >> THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNSELORS. [ APPLAUSE ] >> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. >> I WOULD MOVE THAT THE RULES BE SUSPECTED FOR THE PURPOSES OF ALLOWING TWO PROCLAMATIONS THIS EVENING. I'M SORRY, THAT'S YOUR JOB. >> IS THERE A SECOND? THAT'S OKAY. WE NEED TO TAKE A ROLL CALL VOTE. MS. PENA, WOULD YOU CALL ROLL? COUNSELOR BASSAN? >> YES. >> COUNSELOR BENTON. >> YES. >> COUNSELOR FIEBELKORN. COUNSELOR JONES. COUNSELOR PENA. >> YES. >> COUNSELOR SANCHEZ. >> YES. >> IT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU. MR. PRESIDENT. >> WE APPRECIATE THAT AND THANK YOU TO COUNSELORS. YOU KNOW, AS MANY OF YOU KNOW, MR. LAWRENCE RAEL HAS BEEN IN THIS BUILDING FOR WAY TOO LONG AND HE STUCK IT OUT WITH LOTS OF US BUT HE'S FINALLY SAID HE'S GOING TO RETIRE. HE'S GOT US THINKING WE HAVE TO LOOK BACK AND THINK ABOUT WHAT HE'S DONE. WE THOUGHT WE WOULD READ THEM OUT HERE WITHOUT TELLING HIM WHAT THEY WERE. AND SO IF YOU WILL GIVE US A MINUTE WE'D LIKE TO READ THROUGH OUR NEXT PROCLAMATION OF THE EVENING. WHEREAS AFTER A LONG AND DISTINGUISHED CAREER SERVING A PRESIDENT, GOVERNOR, MAYORS AND CITY COUNSELORS, MR. REAL WILL RETIRE IN 2023. AND WHEREAS IN A RECENT NEWS STORY NOTED, THERE'S HARDLY A JOB IN NEW MEXICO THAT MR. REAL HASN'T HAD. AND WHEREAS THE CAO AND CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER IN ALBUQUERQUE SERVING DOZEN OF CITY COUNCILLORS. HE HAS IMPROVED THE QUALITY OF LIFE AND OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITY. WHEREAS IN STATE AND REGIONAL GOVERNMENT, MR. REAL HAS SERVED AS AN ADVISOR OR DIRECTOR FOR MORE PUBLIC OFFICIALS THAN WE CAN COUNT. AND AS EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE MRGC, AND WHEREAS IN ADDITION TO HIS MANY YEARS OF SERVICE, HIS COMMITMENT TO NEW MEXICO AND HIS DEDICATION TO PUBLIC SERVICE AND ALSO AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL WHERE HE SERVED ON THE STAFF OF SENATOR JEFF B. AND THEN WAS APPOINTED BY PRESIDENT OBAMA. AND WHEREAS HIS LEGACY INCLUDES COMPLETION OF SOME OF THE STATE AND CITY'S MOST DYNAMIC PROJECTS AND LANDMARKS, INCLUDING A LIST TOO LONG TO MENTION, BUT THE BALLOON PARK, AND OBVIOUSLY BRINGING THE RAIL RUNNER TO FRUITION. AND WHEREAS MR. REAL'S SERVICE HAS BETTERED THE LIVES OF EVERYONE WHO LIVES AND VISITS HERE AND HIS DIPLOMATE AND DYNAMIC APPROACH TO LEADERSHIP IS A MODEL OF PUBLIC SERVICE AT ALL LEVELS OF THE GOVERNMENT. WE PROCLAIM THAT THIS FRIDAY IS DECLARED LAWRENCE RAEL DAY IN THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE. AND RESIDENTS ARE ENCOURAGED TO CONGRATULATE AND HONOR HIM FOR HIS SERVICE TO OUR STATE AND CITY. WE KNOW THE STAFF UPSTAIRS WILL REMIND HIM THAT FRIDAY IS LAWRENCE RAEL DAY AND WILL RING UPON HIM ALL THE CONGRATULATIONS AND GREAT STORIES AND THANKS FOR HIS SERVICE. THEN WE'LL EMBARRASS HIM THOROUGHLY. SO MR. REAL, CONGRATULATIONS, WE'RE GRATEFUL FOR YOU AND WE APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICE. [ APPLAUSE ] >> WELL, THAT WAS A SURPRISE. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT AND COUNSELORS. SO, THERE WILL BE OTHER TIMES FOR US TO HAVE A VISIT ABOUT THIS, FOR SURE, BUT I WILL SAY TO ALL OF YOU THAT IT'S MY PLEASURE AND IT'S ALWAYS BEEN MY HONOR TO BE HERE. >> THANK YOU. MR. REAL, WE'LL GIVE YOU THIS IN A LITTLE BIT WHEN THE OTHER COUNSELORS GET HERE TO SIGN IT. BUT WE HAVE SOME THINGS FOR YOU ON YOUR WAY OUT. MR. PADILLA. >> YEAH, LAWRENCE RAEL, ON A BUDGET DAY HE WOULD HAND OUT ICE CREAM, SO WE GOT THAT FOR EVERYBODY TODAY. >> THANK YOU. THANK YOU. [ APPLAUSE ] >> YES, I WANT ONE. WE'RE PASSING THEM OUT UP HERE. THANK YOU. >> WE'RE GOOD. >> WE'LL SHARE THESE, THANK YOU. THE WHOLE POINT IS TO GIVE ONE TO LAWRENCE. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. NO, SERIOUSLY, MR. REAL HAS BEEN AN ADVISOR AND A COLLEAGUE AND A REAL LEADER FOR OUR CITY FOR A LONG TIME. AND IN FACT HAS PROBABLY BECOME A FRIEND TO ALL OF US. WE'RE TRULY GOING TO MISS HIM, BUT I HAVE A FEELING WE WON'T NOT SEE HIM FOR LONG, HE FINDS A WAY TO GET INVOLVED IN ALL KINDS OF THINGS. SO HE'LL FIND A WAY TO BE INVOLVED. >> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT, I THINK WE HAVE ONE MORE PRESENTATION. >> WE DO. I WANT TO INVITE DR. H., I SAW HER A MINUTE AGO. MADAM PRESIDENT, WELCOME, THANK YOU FOR COMING DOWN. MAY I INTRODUCE OUR GUEST? FOR FOLKS WHO DON'T KNOW, THIS IS THE PRESIDENT AT OUR ESTEEMED COLLEGE, CNM, WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF ELECTION SEASON, THE CITY HAS A NUMBER OF QUESTIONS ON THE BALLOT, CITY COUNCIL SEATS AND BONDS. BUT ALSO OUR FOLKS AT CNM HAVE A NUMBER OF QUESTIONS ON THE BALLOT AND THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO ENGAGE OUR COMMUNITY AND TALK ABOUT WHAT THOSE BONDS MEAN. WE'RE SO GLAD YOU REACHED OUT TO US TO EDUCATE US A LITTLE BIT. CAN YOU TELL US ABOUT CNM'S BIG PLANS? >> FIRSTLY, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY THIS EVENING, I'M EXCITED YOU HAVE ICE CREAM SANDWICHES TO CELEBRATE PUBLIC SERVICE. WHAT A TREAT TO BE HERE ON A NIGHT YOU RECOGNIZE LAWRENCE RAEL, I'VE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH LAWRENCE IN MANY ROLES, EVEN THIS WEEKEND. JUST A GREAT NIGHT TO BE HERE TO RECOGNIZE GOOD PUBLIC SERVICE, WHICH IS WHAT ALL OF YOU ALSO, YOU KNOW, MODEL EVERY DAY. AND AS MY GOVERNING BOARD MEMBER, AS YOU MENTIONED, WE HAVE THREE SEATS THAT ARE UP IN NOVEMBER, BUT ALSO IMPORTANT IS OUR LOCAL GENERAL OBLIGATION BOND, A QUESTION THAT GOES TO SUPPORT KEY PROJECTS HERE IN THE CITY IN BERNALILLO COUNTY AND IN SANDOVAL COUNTY. IT'S A VERY DELIBERATE SLIDE. THERE WE GO. WHAT'S A CNM BOND? IT'S A GENERAL OBLIGATION BOND, WE'RE GOING OUT TO THE COMMUNITY -- WELL, NOW PLEASE GO OUT AND VOTE EARLY, BUT WE'RE ASKING OUR LOCAL COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO APPROVE AN $80 MILLION LOCAL OBLIGATION BOND. THIS WILL NOT INCREASE ANYONE'S TAX RATE ON THEIR PROPERTY. BUT THE $80 MILLION GOES TO SUPPORT SIGNIFICANT PROJECTS WE HAVE HERE AT THE COLLEGE. AGAIN, WE'VE ENJOYED THE STRONG SUPPORT NOT ONLY OF THE CITY COUNCIL AND OF OTHER LOCAL JURISDICTIONS THROUGHOUT THE TWO COUNTIES BUT CERTAINLY OUR LOCAL VOTERS HAVE SUPPORTED OUR PROJECTS FOR MANY YEARS AND WE'RE INCREDIBLY FORTUNATE TO BE ABLE TO RELY ON THIS STRONG SUPPORT. I THINK THAT WILL CARRY US THROUGH NOVEMBER. LARGELY WHAT WE WILL USE THE $80 MILLION TO FUND IS CUTTING-EDGE SKILLS TRADES EDUCATION. I THINK STUFF ATTENDED OUR GROUND-BREAKING LAST SUMMER FOR THE SKILLS TRADE FACILITY ON THE MAIN CAMPUS AND WE HAVE ONE GOING IN SANDOVAL COUNTY WITH RIO RANCHO PUBLIC SCHOOLS. WE WORK WITH THE RAIL YARDS, MOVING OUR 20-YEAR FILM PROGRAM TO THE RAILYARDS IN ADDITION TO JOINING THE STATE OF NEW MEXICO'S ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT, NEW MEXICO MEDIA ACADEMY, IT WOULDN'T BE THERE WITHOUT THE CITY'S STRONG SUPPORT AND THE REMAIDIATION OF THE SIDE. SO WE KNOW THAT WE CAN MAKE A STRONG COMMITMENT DOWNTOWN, NOT JUST FOR THE FILM INDUSTRY BUT ALSO I WOULD SAY TO REVITALIZE THAT NEIGHBORHOOD AS WELL. AND WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO SUPPORT PROJECTS HERE IN THE CITY BY FOCUSING ON SAFETY AND A NUMBER OF OTHER AREAS, ESPECIALLY BY THE UNIVERSITY CORRIDOR. SO WHY IS THIS SUPPORT THIS BOND? THE BOND WILL CERTAINLY FOSTER OUR TRADES AND CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS, LIKE SO MANY OTHER PROJECTS THAT ARE GOING ON IN THE CITY. IT'S GOING TO SUPPORT OUR STUDENTS. IT BUILDS ON THE STRONG PRESENCE WE HAVE IN THE CITY IN TERMS OF THE ALMOST $800 MILLION ECONOMIC IMPACT WE HAVE ON THIS NEW MEXICO REGION. ABOUT 11,400 JOBS ARE ASSOCIATED WITH CNM. SO WE'RE AN ECONOMIC DRIVER AND ABOUT $1.5 BILLION BECAUSE WE'RE HERE IN THE CENTRAL NEW MEXICO REGION. IN ADDITION TO THE 200 PROGRAMS WE OFFER IN EDUCATION AND LEARNING. AGAIN, WE'VE BEEN HERE FOR 58 YEARS BOTH AT THE TECHNICAL INSTITUTE AND AS CNM AND THERE ARE PROBABLY GRADUATES IN THE AUDIENCE, THERE OFTEN ARE. BUT THAT'S A REASON WE WANT AND ASK FOR NOT ONLY THE COUNCIL'S CONTINUED SUPPORT BUT FROM THE NEIGHBORHOODS YOU REPRESENT. YOU ALL KNOW THE ELECTION INFORMATION. WE'RE EXCITED THAT EARLY VOTING HAS STARTED. AGAIN, WE LOOK FORWARD TO ANOTHER STRONG SHOW OF SUPPORT BY OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS AND ALSO BY LOCAL VOTERS AND STUDENTS AND FACULTY AND STAFF. I'M GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE ABOUT THE BOND AND PROJECTS. BUT THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT OVER THE YEARS AND THANK YOU TO THE STRONG PARTNERSHIP WE HAVE WITH THE CITY AND MAYOR'S OFFICE THAT'S REPRESENTED BY MR. REAL. >> GREAT. >> MADAM, IF YOU DON'T MIND, I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU. YOU HAVE BEEN AN INCREDIBLE PARTNER TO ALL THE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY. ON A PERSONAL LEVEL, I'VE HIRED STAFF FROM YOUR TRAINING PROGRAM, THE CERTIFICATE PROGRAM, BUT IT'S BEEN GREAT TO HAVE AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PARTNER. WE MENTIONED FILM BUT I'M THINKING OF THE MAXEON DEAL, THE LARGEST SOLAR MANUFACTURING FACILITY IN NORTH AMERICA IS COMING HERE AND WE REACHED OUT AND CALLED YOUR TEAM AND SAID, HOW DO WE GET A WORKFORCE FOR THIS? LITERALLY WE HAD THE SKILLS AND RESOURCES AND STAFF TO HELP US FIGURE OUT HOW TO ENSURE HOW TO DO THAT. I THINK MOST FOLKS -- NOT AS MANY FOLKS REALIZE WHAT A HUGE IMPACT CNM HAS ON THE DAILY LIVES OF SO MANY PEOPLE IN CENTRAL NEW MEXICO BUT WHEN IT COMES TO BUILDING WAGES AND EQUITY AND INCREASING OPPORTUNITY, CMN IS THE TICKET. THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK. >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU. >> LET'S MOVE ON TO THE QUESTION AND ANSWER PERIOD. COUNSELORS, ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE ADMINISTRATION? >> MADAM VICE PRESIDENT, I KNOW YOU AND I WILL BE TALKING AND HAD CONVERSATIONS. SO WE HAD A FEW QUESTIONS COME UP WITH THE ALBUQUERQUE SAFETY COMMUNITY PROJECT. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE DIRECTOR IS NOT WITH US THIS EVENING DUE TO ANOTHER EVENING, BUT I SPOKE WITH MR. REAL EARLIER AND I THINK WE WERE GETTING A BRIEFING OF SORTS FOR NOW AND THEN LINGERING QUESTIONS, WE'LL ASK AT THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING. >> MR. PRESIDENT AND COUNSELORS, THANK YOU MUCH FOR THE OPPORTUNITY. WE HAVE THE STAFF OF THE DEPARTMENT HERE THAT WILL ADDRESS SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT YOU ALL RAISED. AND THAT YOU SENT TO US A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO. WE BEGIN BY SAYING THAT AS YOU KNOW, THE DEPARTMENT WAS RECENTLY ORGANIZED UNDER THE CWA, IF YOU WILL, UNION, AND WE ARE IN ACTIVE NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE MEMBERSHIP OF THE LEADERSHIP OF THE UNION. MANY OF THE QUESTIONS THAT YOU ALL ASKED IN YOUR NOTE TO US. SO FROM A PRACTICAL PERSPECTIVE, OUR ABILITY TO SPEAK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THOSE ISSUES IS A LITTLE BIT, IF YOU WILL, PROBLEMATIC IN THAT WE ARE IN NEGOTIATIONS, BUT WE WOULD BE PLEASED TO MEET WITH EACH OF YOU INDIVIDUALLY AND GIVE YOU MORE DETAIL ON THOSE PARTICULAR ITEMS THAT YOU RAISED AND GIVE YOU SOME SPECIFICS ABOUT THE DETAILS THAT YOU ASKED FOR, BUT I DO HAVE WITH US SEVERAL MEMBERS OF THE DEPARTMENT. AND THEY ARE PREPARED TO ANSWER SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT MAY NOT BE, IF YOU WILL, IN THE ARENA OF NEGOTIATIONS AS WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER. AGAIN, COUNSELORS, IF YOU ALL WOULD LIKE FOR US TO HAVE A ONE-ON-ONE WITH ALL OF YOU, WE'D BE HAPPY TO DO SO. SO, MS. REESE IS OUT OF TOWN UNFORTUNATELY, SO WITH HER IS HER DEPUTY HERE, JASMINE WILL I THINK VISIT WITH YOU ABOUT SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WE CAN TALK ABOUT TODAY. AND THEN WE'LL PUT UP SOME TIME TO VISIT WITH YOU ABOUT THE OTHERS. >> OKAY. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, MY NAME'S JASMINE, THE DEPUTY DIRECTOR. WE HAVE THREE OTHER MEMBERS HERE. IT LITERALLY TAKES FOUR PEOPLE TO DO THE DIRECTOR'S JOB. SO IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, I'M WILLING TO ANSWER IF THEY'RE NOT PART OF THE NEGOTIATIONS. >> MADAM VICE PRESIDENT, MR. REAL, I GUESS I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION WE'D GET A BRIEFING OF QUESTIONS THAT CAN BE ANSWERED. WE CAN DECIDE WHICH ONES ARE CVA-RELATED. >> WHY DON'T WE START WITH QUESTION 14, BECAUSE THOSE ARE THE QUESTIONS THAT ARE NOT WITHIN THE CVA NEGOTIATIONS. SO IF YOU CAN GO THROUGH THOSE QUESTIONS, I THINK ALL OF THE QUESTIONS THROUGH THE END OF THE DOCUMENT, I BELIEVE, WE'RE ABLE TO ADDRESS IN SOME FASHION OR OTHER. >> COUNCIL BASSAN, QUESTION 13. SO THEY CURRENTLY HIRED A HOMELESSNESS LIAISON ADMINISTRATOR WHO WILL BE ASSISTING THE DEPARTMENT. THE HOMELESSNESS CALL IS ONE OF THE TOP CALLS THAT WE RECEIVE. SO THIS POSITION WILL HELP, AS WE NEED STRONGER OVERSIGHT IN THIS AREA. THIS POSITION IS A DIVISION MANAGER LEVEL SO THEY WILL OVERSEE ONE SUPERVISOR AND EIGHT HOMELESSNESS AND RESOURCE COORDINATORS. 15. I'M GOING TO REFER THIS TO ADAM, THE RECENTLY HIRED DIVISION MANAGER FOR THE DEPARTMENT. >> GOOD EVENING, MADAM VICE PRESIDENT AND COUNSELORS. QUESTION 15 IS RELATED TO DATA AND WHETHER OR NOT IT IS COLLECTED AND TRACKED. YES, WE DO INDEED COLLECT AND TRACK DATA. IT IS COLLECTED VIA THE FIRE AND RESCUE CAD SYSTEM AND ALSO THE CITY'S RECORD MANAGEMENT SYSTEM, KNOWN AS MARK 43. ACS WORKED WITH APD, AFR AS WELL AS THE DEPARTMENT OF TECHNOLOGY AND INNOVATION TO ENSURE THAT DATA IS COLLECTED AND TRACKED IN A CONSISTENT MANNER THAT'S CONSISTENT WITH OTHER PUBLIC SAFETY DEPARTMENTS SUCH AS APD. YES SIR? >> MR. SANCHEZ. >> THANK YOU, IN REFERENCE TO THAT QUESTION, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT TRACKING YOU USE. WHAT DO YOU USE TO TRACK? YOU SAID YOU USED A CAD SYSTEM? BUT THERE IS A REPORTING SYSTEM SO SOMEONE CAN GO IN AND LOOK AT A REPORT, SEE WHAT WAS DONE THAT DAY, WHAT SERVICES WERE RENDERED. TO SEE WHAT THEY GOT IN TERMS OF FOLLOW-UP SO WE KNOW WHAT THEY NEED IN TERMS OF CARE AND AT WHAT LEVEL THEY WERE PUT IN THE SYSTEM AND IS THERE TRACKING TO DETERMINE HOW FAR THAT INDIVIDUAL GOES? WHETHER THEY COMPLETE THE SYSTEM OR FALL OFF? DO YOU HAVE ALL OF THAT DATA? >> THANK YOU, MADAM VICE PRESIDENT AND COUNSELOR SANCHEZ. WE COLLECT DATA BASED ON THE EVENT LEVEL AND THE PERSON LEVEL AND IN SOME INSTANCES INDIVIDUALS DO NOT WANT TO GIVE INFORMATION, BUT WE COLLECT THAT INFORMATION. AS FAR AS TRACKING AND LIKE A CASE MANAGEMENT-TYPE SITUATION, THAT'S SOMETHING I WOULD NEED TO REFER BACK TO THE TECHNICAL TEAM WITH. THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT I'M EQUIPPED TO ANSWER THAT EVENING FOR YOU. >> SO DO YOU NOT KEEP THAT KIND OF TECHNICAL DATA? THE REASON WHY IS BECAUSE IF YOU'RE USING SERVICES AND YOU'RE PUTTING THE SERVICES IN PLACE, YOU NEED TO KNOW WHERE THOSE SERVICES ENDED, WHERE THEY BEGAN, AND IF THEY CONTINUED, AND HOW MUCH HELP WE GAVE TO THAT INDIVIDUAL. NOT ONLY THAT, IF THAT PERSON COMES BACK IN AND HAS REENTERED THE SYSTEM, HOW DOES THAT PERSON WORK THROUGH THE SYSTEM? BECAUSE YOU WILL RUN INTO A SITUATION WHERE THIS INDIVIDUAL HAS EXHAUSTED ALL LEVELS OR HAS NOT DONE WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO DO AND MAYBE THERE'S JUST NO OTHER WAY TO HELP THEM OR THEY'RE AT THIS POINT WASTING THE TIME OF INDIVIDUALS AND WE NEED TO KNOW WHETHER WE USE THAT TIME OR WHETHER WE GIVE UP ON THEM OR WHETHER WE START WITH SOMEONE ELSE, WHETHER WE WANT TO RECEIVE IN THE PROCESS. >> I CAN FURTHER CLARIFY, COUNSELOR SANCHEZ. WE HAVE THE RECORDS MANAGEMENT SYSTEM WHICH IS PRIMARILY USED FOR OUR BEHAVIORAL HEALTH RESPONDERS WHO ACT AT FIRST RESPONDERS OUT IN THE FIELD, SIMILAR TO APD AND INCIDENT DINT REPORTS. WE HAVE FIRST RESPONDER SUCH AS THE PEER SUPPORTERS UNDER THE VIOLENCE AND INTERVENTION BUREAU WHICH FUNCTION AS QUOTE-UNQUOTE CASE MANAGEMENT WHICH WOULD FOLLOW THIS PERSON FROM THE TIME THEY ENTER INTO THE SYSTEM. FOR INSTANCE, TONIGHT WE HEARD ABOUT DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, OUR CORE POSITIONS FOCUS MORE SO ON THESE TYPES OF CALLS. SO WHEN THEY'RE ENTERED INTO OUR SYSTEM, WE HAVE OUR RESPONDERS DEDICATED TO THAT INDIVIDUAL FOR 60-90 DAYS TO SEE WHAT PROGRESS WE'RE MAKING, WHAT SOURCES IF ANY, AND HOW WE CAN ASSIST AND IF WE CANNOT ASSIST THEN WE PASS IT OFF AND DO MORE INTENSIVE CASE MANAGEMENT WITH OUR PATTERNS. >> YOU HAVE THAT BREAKDOWN? THE SCHOOL SYSTEM IN TERMS OF HOW MANY PEOPLE YOU'RE HELPING. AND ARE YOU COLLECTING THEIR NAMES, DATES OF BIRTH, THEIR INFORMATION? >> YES, YES, ESPECIALLY FOR THE CORE RESPONDERS. SO THE CORE TEAMS, BECAUSE IT'S CASE MANAGEMENT, THEY HAVE TO RECEIVE SOME OF THE IDENTIFIABLE INFORMATION IN ORDER TO ASSIST THESE INDIVIDUALS. WE DO TRACK IT AND IT'S PART OF OUR MONTHLY REPORT. >> ANOTHER QUESTION SINCE YOU BROUGHT IT UP. DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, WHAT KIND OF TRAINING DO YOU HAVE IN TERMS OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE? >> THE TRAINING FOR ALL OF OUR RESPONDERS, WE GIVE BASELINE TRAINING AND SPECIFICALLY FOR THE CORE POSITIONS, THEY'RE REQUIRED TO GO OVER AND COMPLETE A 40-HOUR TRAINING ON DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IN COLLABORATION THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THEY HAD SIMILAR TRAINING AS THE OFFICERS. >> FOR A POLICE OFFICER, 40 HOURS OF TRAINING IS NOT ANYWHERE NEAR ENOUGH TRAINING TO BE EXPOSED TO ANYTHING HAVING TO DO WITH DOMESTIC VIOLENCE. THAT IS A VERY, VERY TOUCHY SITUATION. ARE THEY, ARE THEY TRAINED IN REFERENCE TO HOW TO GET TEMPORARY RETRAINING ORDERS, WHEN THEY NEED TO CALL A POLICE OFFICER, HOW THEY END UP GETTING AHOLD OF THE JUDGE IN ORDER TO FILE A RESTRAINING ORDER? >> WHEN WE GET THESE REFERRALS, THEY'RE ACTUALLY FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. IN SOME SITUATIONS THEY CALL US OUT AFTER THE INCIDENT SO THE POLICE OFFICERS CAN FOCUS ON WHAT IS HAPPENING AND OUR CORE RESPONDERS CAN ASSIST THE VICTIM. >> I ALSO KNOW THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT DON'T HAVE THE AMOUNT OF TRAINING THEY NEED FOR DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, SO THAT'S AN AREA THAT WE'RE REALLY, REALLY LACKING IN REFERENCE TO DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, BUT I'M GOING TO STOP MY OWN LINE OF QUESTIONING BECAUSE I CAN GO ON AND ON AND ON. >> THANK YOU. >> CAN I ASK, HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO RESPOND TO 311 CALLS SPECIFICALLY? >> ABSOLUTELY, YEAH, MADAM PRESIDENT, I CAN ANSWER THAT ONE. FROM THE FISCAL YEAR, THE AVERAGE TIME WAS 22 HOURS. OUR AVERAGE GOAL IS CONSISTENT WITH OTHER CITY DEPARTMENTS. WE DID RELEASE THAT INFORMATION IN OUR QUARTER ONE REPORT THAT WE PROVIDED TO COUNCIL TWO WEEKS AGO AND THAT'S AVAILABLE ON OUR WEBSITE AS WELL. >> COUNSELOR BASSAN. >> MADAM VICE PRESIDENT, ARE YOU SAYING THE TIME TO CLOSE IT IS THE SAME TIME IT TAKES TO ADDRESS IT. BECAUSE THAT'S, FOR ME A DIFFERENT QUESTION. HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE FOR ACS TO GO TO A CALL THAT'S BEEN BLOT BROUGHT INTO 311, NOT TO CLOSE THE CALL, OR IS THAT THE SAME THING? >> THAT WOULD BE THE SAME THING. >> OKAY. THANK YOU. >> WHEN -- SOMETIMES YOU HAVE MORE CALLS THAN YOU HAVE PEOPLE TO RESPOND TO THEM. LET'S SAY THE MORNING SHIFT COMES IN, THEY'RE DONE WITH THEIR JOB, SO THE AFTERNOON COMES IN. DO THOSE CALLS GET FORWARDED TO THE AFTERNOON? ARE THEY COUNTED AS ANOTHER NEW CALL? OR IS IT IN THE SAME SYSTEM? IS IT CLOSED AND THEN REOPENED? >> OKAY. THANK YOU, MADAM VICE PRESIDENT. WHEN -- IT'S SIMILAR TO APD, WHEN A CALL IS ON THE BOARD, IT CITIES ON THERE UNTIL ONE OF OUR STONDERS CAN RESPOND TO THE CALL. >> SO IT'S NOT CLOSED AND THEN REOPENED FOR THE NEXT SHIFT? >> NO. >> ALL RIGHTY. CAN PEOPLE USE MAPPING SOFTWARE TO SEE THE LOCATIONS ACS RESPONSE HAS BEEN? PLACES Y'ALL HAVE BEEN? AND IF SO, WHERE CAN WE SEE THAT? >> NO, MA'AM, THAT FUNCTIONALITY IS NOT CURRENTLY AVAILABLE BUT ACS RELEASES A MONTHLY REPORT THAT SHOWS RESPONSES BY COUNCIL DISTRICT. IT'S POSTED TO THE TRANSPARENCY PAGE OF OUR WEBSITE. >> ALL RIGHTY. YES, COUNSELOR SANCHEZ. >> YOUR 42-HOUR RESPONSE TIME IS VERY, VERY CONCERNING. THE REASON WHY IT'S VERY CONCERNING IS BECAUSE IF YOU ARE NOT TRACKING OR KNOW THE LOCATION OF THESE INDIVIDUALS LIKE A REGULAR POLICE CALL, WHEN A POLICE OFFICER ANSWERS A CALL, FOR EXAMPLE, AN ASSAULT OR A BATTERY OR DOMESTIC VIOLENCE CALL OF SOMEONE THAT'S OUT ON THE STREET, THERE'S A GOOD CHANCE THAT YOU ARE JUST WASTING TAXPAYER MONEY BY GOING TO THAT CALL AFTER 42 HOURS, EVEN AFTER ONE OR TWO HOURS, THAT THEY'RE ALREADY GONE. SO HOW MANY TIMES DO YOU SHOW UP TO A CALL AND NOBODY IS THERE? IN REFERENCE TO THAT 42-HOUR PERIOD, HOW DO WE DEAL WITH THAT WASTE OF MANPOWER TIME? >> COUNSELOR SANCHEZ AND MADAM PRESIDENT, THERE'S A DIFFERENCE. SO THE HOURS THAT WE GAVE YOU, THE 42 HOURS IS FOR 311, THOSE ARE NON-EMERGENCY PHONE CALLS THAT COME IN. OUR CALL TIME FOR DISDISPATCH FOR 911 CALLS ARE NOT 42 HOURS. >> SO YOU'RE STILL -- YOU DIDN'T ANSWER THE QUESTION. ARE YOU HEADIED -- ARE YOU ACTUALLY GOING TO THOSE CALLS? OBVIOUSLY YOU CAN'T CALL ANYBODY BACK TO SEE WHAT'S GOING ON, BUT OBVIOUSLY THERE'S GOING TO BE A HUGE LAG TIME TO GET TO THOSE CALLS. AFTER ALL, IN MY OPINION, YOU'RE THERE TO TAKE THE BURDEN OFF OF THE POLICE FOR THESE OTHER CALLS. SO IF WE'RE CALLING AND I MAKE A CALL, I'VE ACTUALLY MADE CALLS TO 311 AND BY THE TIME THEY GET THERE, YOU KNOW, I DON'T EVEN SEE ANYBODY ARRIVE SOMETIMES BECAUSE I'M ALREADY GONE FROM MY OFFICE AND THE CALLS ARE ALREADY GONE BECAUSE AFTER FIVE, SIX, SEVEN HOURS, THEY'VE MOVED ON. SO HOW MANY OF THOSE CALLS ARE YOU BEING DISPATCHED TO? >> OUR 311 TICKETS FOR DISPATCH, I DON'T HAVE THAT NUMBER RIGHT NOW, BUT I CAN LET YOU KNOW THAT OUR AVERAGE IS 42 HOURS FROM THE TIME WE COME IN TO RESPOND TO THE CALL. MOST OF THE CALLS, I'M SURE YOU KNOW ARE UNSHELTERED INDIVIDUALS. IN SOME SITUATIONS, SOME CALLS, SOME PEOPLE CALL 911 INSTEAD OF 311 AND IN THOSE CASES WE RESPOND WITHIN THE DISPATCH TIME. BUT FOR 311 TICKETS FROM WHEN WE RECEIVE THE CALL AND THEN RESPONDING, WHICH MEANS ADDRESSING AND CLOSING THE SITUATION, IS 42 HOURS. >> OKAY, THANK YOU. I HAVE A COUPLE MORE QUESTIONS. HOW MANY COMMUNITY RESPONDERS AND HOW MANY BEHAVIORAL HEALTH RESPONDERS ARE THERE ON EACH SHIFT? >> MADAM VICE PRESIDENT, WE HAVE 11 RESPONDERS, FIVE TEAMS ON DAY SHIFT. WE HAVE 12 RESPONDERS, SIX TEAMS ON SWING SHIFT. AND THEN GRAVEYARD, IS TEN RESPONDERS AND FIVE TEAMS. >> ONE MORE TIME? >> DAY SHIFT, 11 RESPONDERS, FIVE TEAMS. SWING SHIFT, 12 RESPONDERS, SIX TEAMS. AND ON GRAVEYARD WE HAVE 10 RESPONDERS FOR FIVE TEAMS. AND THAT'S NOT TAKING INTO ACCOUNT WE JUST -- WE HAVE FIVE NEW RESPONDERS THAT RECEIVED ON THE JOB TRAINING WHO ARE CURRENTLY IN THE FIELD RIGHT NOW. THAT'S GOING TO ADD AN ADDITIONAL TWO TEAMS. WE'RE LOOKING RIGHT NOW ON NUMBERS ON WHERE TO PLACE THOSE INDIVIDUALS RIGHT NOW. >> THANK YOU, HOW MANY PEOPLE TOTAL WORK AT ACS? >> MADAM VICE PRESIDENT, 130. WE HAVE 130 POSITIONS. >> OKAY. AND DO YOU HAVE AN ORGANIZATIONAL CHART? >> YES. >> COUNSELOR BASSAN, DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? >> MADAM VICE PRESIDENT, I HAVE MANY, BUT I'LL WAIT. >> COUNSELOR SANCHEZ? >> I HAVE ONE ON SAFETY. WHAT SORT OF PROTOCOL AND TRAINING DO YOU HAVE IN REFERENCE TO BEING ABLE TO -- LET'S SAY AN ACS PERSON WALKS UP TO A CAR. THERE'S SOMEBODY SITTING IN THE CAR AND THEY WALK UP TO THAT CAR, ARE YOU ABLE TO RUN A LICENSE PLATE TO DETERMINE WHETHER THAT CAR IS STOLEN? ARE YOU ABLE TO DETERMINE BASED ON PREVIOUS CONTACT IF YOU ARE BACKGROUND TO A HOUSE THAT IS A DANGER OR A SECURITY RISK? ARE YOU ABLE TO -- HAVE YOU BEEN TRAINED ON DANGER SIGNS AS TO WHETHER YOU SHOULD EVEN APPROACH THAT HOUSE? THAT VEHICLE? THAT PERSON? WHAT KIND OF TRAINING ARE YOU GETTING FOR THAT KIND OF THING? THAT'S POLICE OFFICER TRAINING, AND ARE YOU GUYS GETTING THAT KIND OF TRAINING? DO YOU HAVE THAT ABILITY TO MAKE SURE YOU DON'T WALK INTO A DANGEROUS SITUATION? >> YEP, COUNSELOR SANCHEZ AND MADAM VICE PRESIDENT, OUR SAFETY TRAINING IS COMPLETED AND CONDUCTED AND OFFERED BY THE ALBUQUERQUE POLICE OFFICER AND AFR. BOTH HAVE SITUATIONAL TRAINING THEY TEACH THEIR OWN FIRST RESPONDERS AND WE RECEIVE THOSE AS WELL. AS FAR AS RESOURCES, WE OFFER THAT FOR RESPONDERS PRIOR TO ANSWERING THE CALL, PRIOR TO ARRIVING ON SCENE, WHICH INCLUDES DIFFERENT ACTS AND TO LOOK AT HAZARDS AS POLICE OFFICERS DO AS WELL. AS FAR AS THE TRAINING ON BACKGROUND UP ON VEHICLES, ANYTHING LIKE THAT, THAT'S ALSO SOMETHING THAT APD WOULD BE PROVIDING TO US. WE DO TRAIN OUR RESPONDERS TO TACTFULLY RETREAT IF THERE'S POTENTIAL OR NOTICED SIGNS OF POTENTIAL VIOLENCE. >> YOU SAID YOU USE THE FIRE CAP NOT THE POLICE CAP -- IS THE POLICE CAB GOING TO TELL YOU WHETHER YOU WENT IF THERE'S A SAFETY ISSUE OR NOT? >> YES, WE ARE. >> AND DO YOU HAVE DIRECT CONTACT WITH THE REALTIME CRIME CENTER WHILE YOU'RE OUT ON DUTY SO YOU CAN ALSO SEE A POTENTIAL THREAT? >> COUNSELOR SANCHEZ, MADAM VICE PRESIDENT, CURRENTLY HOW IT OPERATES IS WHEN WE RECEIVE A CALL, THE DISPATCHERS AND CALL TAKERS WILL PROVIDE TRIAGE IF IT'S APPROPRIATE FOR ACS. THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO SEARCH ON THEIR END, LOOK AT THE HAZARDS, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? ANY TYPE OF POTENTIAL HAZARDS, WARNINGS, FLAGS, IF IT'S FLAGGED AS PROPOSED FOR ACS, OR DEEMED APPROPRIATE, IT'LL BE TRANSFERRED TO THE AFR ALARM ROOM WHERE OUR RESPONDENTENTS RESPOND TO THE CALL. >> YOU KEEP ON MENTIONING AFR, YOU GUYS ARE BASICALLY -- THE WHOLE INTENTION OF ACS SO SUPPLEMENT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE POLICE, WHY DO YOU KEEP TELLING ME THAT YOU'RE CONNECTED TO THE CAB AT AFR, IS THIS BECAUSE WE'RE CIRCUMVENTING THE DOJ, IS IT BECAUSE WE CAN'T USE THE POLICE CAB BECAUSE THE DOJ WILL LOOK AT IT AND SAY, HEY, WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT DOING THE RIGHT THING? THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT. BECAUSE WE'RE HAVING A GROUP OF INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE ESSENTIALLY ADDRESSING POLICE CALLS FOR SERVICE. AND POLICE CALLS, WHETHER THEY'RE 911 OR 311, IS A POTENTIALLY DANGEROUS SITUATION FOR EVERYBODY. AND IF YOU'RE BACKGROUND INTO A POTENTIALLY DANGEROUS SITUATION AND YOU ARE NOT EQUIPPED TO HANDLE IT, OBVIOUSLY YOU'RE NOT BECAUSE YOU'RE USING AFR CAB AND NOT APD'S CAB. SO THERE'S GOT TO BE AN ISSUE THERE THAT NEEDS TO BE WORKED OUT, PROBABLY WITH DOJ, APD AND MAKING SURE THESE PEOPLE ARE SAFE ON SITE. >> MR. PRESIDENT, LET ME INTERVENE ON THIS PARTICULAR QUESTION. RECALL THAT THIS DEPARTMENT IS TWO YEARS OELTD. WHEN WE FIRST STARTED, THE CONCERN THAT WAS RAISED IS WHENEVER A POLICE OFFICER RESPONDS TO AN INCIDENT AND THERE IS, IF YOU WILL, A MENTAL HEALTH INCIDENT OR SOME LEVEL OF INTERACTION WITH THE INDIVIDUAL THAT MANY TIMES AFR WOULD ACCOMPANY THAT POLICE OFFICER ON THAT RESPONSE. FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF WHETHER OR NOT THIS IS A HEALTH ISSUE OR A SITUATION THAT REQUIRES AN AFR-ASSISTED RESPONSE TO A POLICE OFFICER. THE REASON THAT THE SYSTEM IS SET UP AS SUCH IS BECAUSE 911, AS YOU ALL KNOW, ARE THE FIRST ORDER OF WHERE FOLKS CALL TO GET A PUBLIC SAFETY DISPATCH TO A SCENE. THE DOUBLE REDUNDANCY IN THE SYSTEM IS IF IT'S A SYSTEM THAT REQUIRES MEDICAL ATTENTION, THEN AFR WOULD GET THE CALL TO RESPOND BECAUSE IT'S A MEDICAL-RELATED, IF YOU WILL, WHERE YOU NEED AN AFT. IF THAT IS NOT THE CASE, THEN ACS IS DISPATCHED BECAUSE IT REQUIRES A MENTAL HEALTH COUNSELOR OR A SUPPORT, IF YOU WILL, TEAM, FROM ACS TO HELP WITH THE SITUATION WITH APD. IT REALLY IS A TRIAGING PROCESS SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE AFR AND ACS AT THE SAME TIME IN A SITUATION THAT MAY REQUIRE ONE OR THE OTHER. THERE IS, COUNSELOR SANCHEZ AND COUNSELORS, WE ARE WORK THROUGH THE NEW SYSTEM TO CREATE A STRUCTURE WHERE YOU WOULD HAVE A DIRECT RESPONSE FROM ACS WITH APD, HOWEVER, WE'RE WORK ON THE TRIAGE AND THE SYSTEM SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE A SCENARIO LIKE YOU JUST DESCRIBED WHERE THERE MAY BE A PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUE AND WE'RE SENDING THE WRONG TEAM IN TO REVIEW THE CIRCUMSTANCES. >> I'M A BIT CONFUSED. WHY ARE WE SENDING ACS AND WHY DO THE FLYERS SAY 911 ON THE SIDE. 911 IS AN EMERGENCY SITUATION, THAT MEANS IMMEDIATE POLICE RESPONSE. WHEN PEOPLE CALL 911, THEY NEED A POLICE OFFICER, THEY NEED HELP, THEY NEED SOMEBODY THERE. THE NEXT STEP -- OR THEY NEED MEDICAL ATTENTION. THAT'S WHAT 911 IS FOR. I MEAN, IF A CITIZEN GOES OUT THERE AND THEY SEE THAT ACS CARS SAY 911 ON THE SIDE OF THEM AND THEY DIAL 911, ARE THEY EXPECTING ACS? I DON'T THINK SO, I THINK THEY'RE EXPECTING A POLICE OFFICER TO TAKE CARE OF BUSINESS AND THEIR EXPECTING AFR INDIVIDUALS TO SAVE LIVES. AND THOSE ARE THE FIRST RESPONDERS. SO I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE HAVE 911 WRITTEN ON THE CARS AN I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE HAVE 911 BEING DISPATCHED. I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING WHEN YOU WERE MENTIONING AFR SHOWING UP, BUT WHEN I WAS A POLICE OFFICER, WE WOULD GO HANDLE THE 911 CALL AND THE AFR WOULD SIT OUTSIDE IN THE TRUCK UNTIL IT WAS DEEMED 100% CLEAR FOR THEM TO ENTER THE SITUATION. I ENVISION ACS AS BEING SIMILAR TO THAT, A UNIT THAT ACTUALLY HELPS POLICE OFFICERS, SUPPLEMENTS THE POLICE OFFICERS, BUT DOESN'T GO OUT THERE AND GET DISPATCHED TO A SITUATION WHERE IT CAN BE HAZARDOUS TO THEM OR THE INDIVIDUALS. ALSO IT CAN BE HAZARDOUS FOR THE INDIVIDUAL THEY'RE GOING OUT TO HELP BECAUSE IF THEY DON'T PROVIDE THE CORRECT RESPONSE, THAT'S A LIABILITY SITUATION FOR US ON BOTH ENDS. >> MR. PRESIDENT AND COUNSELOR SANCHEZ, I RESPECT YOUR PAST HISTORY AND HOW YOU OPERATED AS IT RELATES TO A DISPATCH CALL. KEEP IN MIND THAT EVEN WHEN YOU WERE A POLICE OFFICER, IF THIS WAS A 911 CALL THAT REQUIRED AN AFR RESPONSE, ED MIGHT SHOW UP, BUT IT WAS A FIRE DEPARTMENT RESPONSE, NOT A POLICE DEPARTMENT RESPONSE. IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, IN MANY INSTANCES, APD IS ACTUALLY ACS TO ACCOMPANY THEM ON THE CALL BECAUSE THEY HAVE ASSESSED THE SITUATION BECAUSE THEY NEED SOMEONE SO DEESCALATE AN ISSUE AND APD HAS SECURED THE SCENE AND ACS THEN STEPS IN TO WORK AND IF YOU WILL, DEESCALATE THE SITUATION OR TO HELP CREATE A SOLUTION WITH THE CIRCUMSTANCES ON HAND. ON MOST OF THE 911 CALLS, WE ARE USING THE TRIAGE SYSTEM OF APD AND AFR TO ENSURE WHAT YOU JUST SAID, TO ENSURE WE DON'T HAVE AN ACS RESPOND IN A SCENARIO WHERE THEY'RE UNSAFE OR THERE'S AN UNSAFE SCENARIO OCCURRING AND WE'RE PUTTING IN FOLKS THAT DON'T HAVE, IF YOU WILL, THE SAME LEVEL OF TRAINING FROM A PUBLIC SAFETY PERSPECTIVE THAT APD HAS AND TO SOME EXTENT THAT AFR HAS. SO IT'S A REDUNDANCY POSITIVE TO ENSURE HAVE THAT WE'RE PROTECTING THE INDIVIDUALS THAT WORK FOR THE CITY WHO ARE RESPONDING TO ACS, BUT ALSO THAT WE'RE GIVING OFFICERS AND AFR A RESOURCE TO DEAL WITH CIRCUMSTANCES THAT AREN'T REALLY ABOUT ARRESTING AND/OR DEESCALATING A SCENARIO WITH LETHAL FORCE, AS MIGHT HAPPEN. OR THERE'S AN ISSUE WHERE WE HAVE A NEED FOR AFR TO COME IN AND TRANSPORT OR PROVIDE ANY LEVEL OF MEDICAL ASSISTANCE OTHER THAN TO SIMPLY PROVIDE MENTAL HEALTH COUNSELING, ET CETERA SERVICES. SO IT'S A VERY DIFFERENT STANDARD THAT IS DEVELOPING HERE, COUNSELOR SANCHEZ, AS COMPARED TO THE YEARS WHEN YOU MIGHT HAVE BEEN IN THE FORCE. AND IT REALLY IS, QUITE FRANKLY, IN RESPONSE TO CASA AND THE DOJ IS TO FIND A WAY TO HAVE THE CITIZENS OF THIS COMMUNITY BE SERVED BY PUBLIC SAFETY AND THAT IT NOT ALWAYS BE A POLICE DEPARTMENT RESPONSE OR AN AFR RESPONSE. THAT'S WHY I THINK THIS IS SUCH A SUCCESSFUL OPPORTUNITY AND WHY OTHER CITIES ARE TRYING TO REPLICATE WHAT WE HAVE HERE. YOU KNOW, AS I DO, MANY TIMES YOU ARE ENCOUNTERING AS A POLICE OFFICER AND WE EXPECT YOU TO KNOW EVERYTHING, WE EXPECT YOU TO BE A MENTAL HEALTH COUNSELOR, BE A TRANSLATOR, PROVIDE COMFORT AND AT THE SAME TIME PROVIDE SECURITY AND SAFETY. THIS IS GIVING THE POLICE DEPARTMENT ANOTHER TOOL TO USE TO HELP KEEP OUR COMMUNITY SAFE AND TO REALLY COMPLY WITH A LOT OF WHAT WE KNOW IS MODERN-DAY POLICING AND PUBLIC SAFETY SERVICES IN OUR COMMUNITIES AND IT'S WORK. -- IT'S WORK. YES, ARE THERE ISSUES WE HAVE TO WORK OUT? ARE THERE ISSUES ASSOCIATING WITH REPORTING AND GETTING MORE OF THAT DATA SO THAT YOU HAVE A LOT MORE BASELINE INFORMATION? LOOK, THE NEW CAD SYSTEM WILL PROVIDE US SOME OF THAT OPPORTUNITY. I WILL TELL YOU THAT WHEN I SEE POLICE OFFICERS TELLING ME, WHEN I'M GETTING GAS AT THE GAS PUMP AT THE CITY YARDS TELLING ME THANK GOODNESS WE HAVE SOMEONE TO CALL OTHER THAN TO CALLING OUR SERGEANTS AND SAYING, LOOKING, CAN WE GET SOMEONE WITH A NON-PROFIT TO COME WITH US? WE HAVE NOW A DEPARTMENT THAT WE CAN CALL, AND ANOTHER RESOURCE. SO IT IS HELPING, AND IT IS HELPFUL, BUT I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT YOU WANT MORE DETAILS ABOUT WHETHER WE'RE DEPLOYING AND USING THE RESOURCES ADEQUATELY. THIS IS A GOOD CONVERSATION TO HAVE. AND WE'D BE HAPPY TO HAVE MORE DETAILED ONE ON ONES WITH ALL OF YOU, SO THE DEPARTMENT CAN DESCRIBE TO YOU MORE OF THE ISSUES THAT DELVE INTO THE NEGOTIATINGS THAT WE ARE UNFORTUNATELY UNABLE TO ADDRESS TONIGHT. >> ONE FOLLOW-UP. >> HAS ANYBODY BEEN HURT RESPONDING TO ACS CALLS? >> PRESIDENT DAVIS, COUNSELOR SANCHEZ, WE'VE HAD A COUPLE INCIDENTS. ONE INCIDENT, ONE OF OUR RESPONDERS GOT SHOT WITH A BB GUN. IT WAS A RANDOM ACT. THEY WERE TARGETING HOMELESS INDIVIDUALS. I'M SURE YOU HAVE SEEN THAT ON THE NEWS. BUT OUR RESPONDER WAS UNFORTUNATELY AT THE WRONG PLACE, AT THE WRONG TIME WHEN THAT HAPPENED. WE'VE HAD A COUPLE OTHER INCIDENTS WHETHER OUR RESPONDERS MAYBE WAS RESPONDING TO AN INDIVIDUAL AT THE BUS STOP AND SOME RANDOM INDIVIDUAL PASSED BY, NOT ASSOCIATED WITH CALL, AND STARTED CONFRONTING ONE OF OUR RESPONDERS. THE INDIVIDUAL WAS SUFFERING FROM MENTAL HEALTH OR SUBSTANCE ABUSE AT THE TIME. ONE WAS WE RESPONDED TO AN INDIVIDUAL AND WHEN WE TALK ABOUT WHAT WE NEED SYSTEM-WISE. THERE WAS AN INDIVIDUAL WE RESPONDED TO THAT WANTED TO GO TO THE HOSPITAL. WE RESPONDED SOMETIME DURING THE AFTERNOON, 2:00 O'CLOCK. WE ENGAGED THAT INDIVIDUAL AND VOLUNTARILY TRANSPORTED THEM INTO ONE OF THE LOCAL HOSPITALS. WE GOT TO THE HOSPITAL WITHOUT INCIDENT. BY 6:00 THAT INDIVIDUAL WAS AT HOME. HE WAS RELEASED. NOW OUR OTHER TEAM GOES OUT THERE AND HE'S UPSET AND ESCALATED. DEBRIEFING THAT SITUATION, I DIDN'T FEEL DANGER AT THAT TIME THAT HAPPENED. IT WAS SOMETHING WHERE THAT INDIVIDUAL LASHED OUT AND GOT AN APPROPRIATE RESPONSE AT THE TIME. BUT THERE'S BEEN INCIDENTS, BUT, AGAIN, AS THE DEPUTY DIRECTOR SAID, WE TRAINED OUR RESPONDERS THAT IF THEY DON'T FEEL SAFE OR THEY SEE SOMETHING THAT'S PROBLEMATIC OR HAZARDOUS ON THE CALLS, AND I REMEMBER SOMEONE TALKING ABOUT THE CAT PROGRAM, WE HAVE ACCESS TO ASSESS HAZARDS AT THE LOCATION. THOSE ARE THE SAME THINGS THAT WE SEE ON POLICE CALLS AS WELL. SO WE KNOW GOING TO A LOCATION IF THERE'S ANY POTENTIALLY DANGEROUS SITUATIONS. WE HAVE ACCESS TO THE CRISIS INTERVENTION UNIT DATABASE, SO WE CAN RESEARCH CALLS PRIOR TO THAT. AGAIN, WE TRAIN OUR RESPONDERS THAT EVEN IF THERE'S ANY POTENTIAL DANGER, TO BACK OUT. >> THANK YOU. COUNSELOR BASSAN. >> MADAM VICE PRESIDENT, I DON'T HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION, BUT I DO HAVE A SUGGESTION THAT PUT ON OUR WISH LIST. BECAUSE WHEN WE TALK ABOUT MAPPING, I WAS THINKING VISION ZERO, I THINK IT'S NOT A GOOD THING THAT WE'RE ABLE TO TRACK PEDESTRIAN DEATHS, BUT WE ARE ABLE TO SEE, KIND OF, THE REALLY BAD LOCATIONS OF THE CITY AS FAR AS VEHICLEAR ACCIDENTS THAT CAUSE PROBLEMS FOR PEDESTRIANS AND CYCLISTS AND WHATNOT. I THINK IT COULD BE BENEFICIAL FOR THE CITY TO LOOK INTO IF THERE'S A WAY TO, NOT WITH ANY KIND OF DETAILED INFORMATION FOR EACH CASE, BUT TO BE ABLE TO PLOT ON THE AEGIS SYSTEM TO BE ABLE TO PLOT SO WE CAN MAYBE START TRACKING WHERE THERE MIGHT BE FREQUENT LOCATIONS TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE PROACTIVE RATHER THAN REACTIVE. I THINK THAT WOULD BE A COOL LAYER TO ADD TO THE MAPPING SYSTEM THAT WE HAVE. I THINK IT'S SOMETHING WE'RE CAPABLE OF DOING, BUT JUST THROWING THAT OUT THERE FOR YOU TO CONSIDER AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO. >> MADAM VICE PRESIDENT AND COUNSELOR BASSAN, I KNOW THAT SOME OF THE STAFF IS DOING THAT WORK WITH APD IN THE MAPPING SYSTEM. SO WE CAN CERTAINLY GIVE YOU SOME OF THAT DATA. WE USE THAT WITH APD RESPONSES TO MANY ISSUES ALL OVER THE CITY. SO I THINK IT'S JUST A MATTER OF PUTTING THAT ONTO OUR SYSTEM AND GETTING A MAP FOR YOU ALL TO LOOK AT. >> THANK YOU, I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA, TOO. COUNSELOR FIEBELKORN. >> MADAM VICE CHAIR, I HAD QUESTIONS FOR KEENER. >> I KNOW DIRECTOR KEENER IS HERE FOR THAT. DIRECTOR, I KNOW THAT I CALL AND E-MAIL YOU WAY TOO OFTEN, BUT I GET A LOT OF CONCERN FROM CONSTITUENTS. AND I HAVE TO SAY IN THE LAST THREE DAYS I HAVEN'T GOTTEN A SINGLE E-MAIL. WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE FREQUENCY OF ROUTES AND MIS-ROUTES? >> THANK YOU, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION AND I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT THIS. AS YOU KNOW, WE CONTINUE TO STRUGGLE WITH OUR DRIVER SHORTAGES AND OUR MECHANIC SHORTAGES AS WELL. BACK IN SEPTEMBER, WE LOOKED AT TRYING TO EX PEDITE ANOTHER DRIVER BID BECAUSE OF WE'VE BEEN HEARING ABOUT THE UNPREDICTABILITY ABOUT WHETHER THE RIDE WAS GOING TO SHOW UP WAS HAVING A NEGATIVE IMPACT ON THEIR PERSONAL AND PROFESSIONAL LIVES. SO WE MADE SERVICE REDUCTIONS WHICH TOOK PLACE ON SATURDAY, OCTOBER 14TH SO THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE SEEN THE SERVICE FALL OFF. WE'RE PRETTY CONFIDENT THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN THAT WITH THE SERVICE REDUCTIONS THAT WE DID DO. THOSE SERVICE REDUCTIONS DID NOT GET RID OF ANY OF THE ROUTES THAT WE HAVE, IT JUST DECREASED THE FREQUENCY OF THE ROUTES. IT ALSO DID NOT AFFECT THE SPAN OF SERVICE, BUT IT ALLOWED US TO HAVE MORE DRIVERS THAT CAN PROTECT THE SERVICE, SO IF WE HAVE CALL-OUTS THERE ARE PEOPLE TO JUMP IN FOR THAT. AND IT IS GIVING OUR MECHANICS A BREAK, TOO, SO WE'RE PRETTY EXCITED ABOUT THAT. WE'RE HOPING THIS IS TEMPORARY IN NATURE AND WE'RE SEEING PROGRESS WITH HIRING, SO THAT'S EXTREMELY EXCITING. I THINK WE HAVE ROUGHLY 20 MCOS AND CHAUFFEURS IN THE PROCESS. WE HAVE 60-90 DAYS TO GET THEM IN THE DRIVER'S SEAT. THAT DEPENDS ON IF THEY HAVE A CDL IF THEY COME TO US. WE HAVE A HIRING EVENT TOMORROW AT 8001 DAYTONA ROAD AND ON LAWRENCE RAEL DAY, ON OCTOBER 27TH. WE'LL BE HAVING ANOTHER ONE AS WELL. PEOPLE CAN COME OUT. THEY'LL HAVE A CHANCE TO SEE THE FACILITY. IT IS A BEAUTIFUL FACILITY THEY WOULD BE COMING TO WORK AT. FROM 10-3 TOMORROW AND THEN AGAIN ON THE 27TH. WE'LL HAVE FACILITY TOURS, YOU CAN GET ON THE BUSES AND THE SUN VANS AND SEE WHAT THAT FEELS LIKE. SO JUST REALLY EXCITED ABOUT WHAT WE'VE GOT GOING ON THERE TOO. AS FAR AS THE VEHICLE MAINTENANCE SIDE, ONE OTHER THING I WANTED TO ADD THAT HAS BEEN REALLY POSITIVE FOR US IS WE'VE HIRED OUR FIRST VEHICLE SERVICER, AND WE HAVEN'T HIRED ONE IN ALMOST TWO YEARS. SO THAT'S EXTREMELY POSITIVE AND WE'VE GOT ANOTHER FOUR GOING THROUGH THE HIRING PROCESS TOO. SO STILL A LITTLE BIT OF A STRUGGLE WITH MECHANICS BUT WE'LL CONTINUE WORK THAT FRONT AND REACHING OUT TO PARTNERS. I KNOW WE'VE BEEN WORK WITH INTELLI TECH TO TALK WITH STUDENTS AND HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH EMPLOYEES AS WELL. >> GREAT NEWS. JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M CLEAR, FOLKS LOOKING TO RIDE THE BUS NEED TO LOOK UP THE NEW SCHEDULE BECAUSE EVERY ROUTE IS LESS FREQUENT THAN IT WAS LAST WEEK. >> COUNSELOR DAVIS AND COUNSELOR FIEBELKORN, THAT IS CORRECT. >> THANK YOU FOR CONTINUING TO WORK ON THIS ISSUE. I KNOW IT'S CHALLENGING, BUT IT'S REALLY HEARTBREAKING WHEN YOU HEAR ABOUT FOLKS WHO HAVE BEEN SENT HOME FROM WORK WITHOUT PAY BECAUSE THEY WERE LATE THROUGH NO RESULT OF THEIR OWN. I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN WORK ON IT AND LIKE I SAID, I HAVEN'T GOTTEN ONE E-MAIL IN THE LAST THREE DAYS, WHICH IS A RECORD. SO WHATEVER YOU HAVE DONE SINCE SATURDAY, KEEP IT UP. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. THANK YOU, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. SO LET'S MOVE ON TO THE JOURNAL. I MOVE APPROVAL OF THE OCTOBER 2ND JOURNAL. OKAY, WE HAVE A SECOND. BY COUNSELOR FIEBELKORN, WOULD YOU CALL THE ROLL? >> COUNSELOR FIEBELKORN. >> YES. >> COUNSELOR GROUT. >> YES. >> COUNSELOR JONES. >> EXCUSED. >> YES. >> THANK YOU. >> COUNSELOR LEWIS. >> YES. >> COUNSELOR PENA. >> YES. >> COUNSELOR SANCHEZ. >> YES. >> MR. PRESIDENT, THANK YOU, I MOVE THAT THE RULES BE SUSPECTED FOR THE PURPOSE OF PLACING OUR 17 ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA FOR ACTION, R-177 IS A RECESS ILLUSION REQUIRES CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL FOR EXPENDITURE OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING FUNDING. >> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A SECOND FROM THE PRESIDENT AND COUNSELOR FIEBELKORN. >> COUNSELOR BASSAN? >> YES. >> COUNSELOR BENTON. >> YES. >> COUNSELOR FIEBELKORN? >> YES. >> COUNSELOR JONES? >> YES. >> COUNSELOR PENA? >> YES. >> COUNSELOR SANCHEZ? >> YES. >> THAT MATTERS PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT, THIS IS FOR THE PURPOSE OF PLACE R178 AND PLACE IS ON THE NOVEMBER 8TH CITY COUNCIL AGENDA, IT IS SUSPEND APPEALS IN RESPONSE TO COURT INJUNCTIONS. >> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. WILL THE CLERK PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? >> IS IT APPROPRIATE THAT I HAVE AN EXPLANATION OF THIS BILL AND WHY WE WOULD -- >> YES. THANK YOU. I APOLOGIZE FOR IT BEING A LATE INTRODUCTION, I NEVER DO THIS. THIS IS MY FIRST ONE IN THE TIME I'VE BEEN ON COUNCIL. BUT I THINK MOST FOLKS HAVE HEARD SOME DETAILS AROUND THE INJUNCTION THAT WE ARE UNDER AS A CITY. WHAT WE'VE HEARD THE MOST ABOUT IS THE FACT THAT WE CAN'T TAKE BELONGINGS FROM PEOPLE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS, BUT WHAT'S ALSO PART OF THE INJUNCTION, WHICH IS FRIGHTENING TO ME, IS THAT AFTER NOVEMBER 1ST, WE CANNOT DISLOCATE ANYONE CAMPING IN ANY PUBLIC SPACE EXCEPT FOR SIDEWALKS AND SCHOOLS BASICALLY. AND SO, THAT MEANS THAT WE COULD HAVE A CORONADO PARK, QUITE A FEW TERMS OVER. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS IN THE JUDGE IS THAT WE HAVE NOT PROVIDED ENOUGH BEDS FOR PEOPLE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS IN THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE FOR PEOPLE TO HAVE ALTERNATIVE PLACES TO BE. WE AS A COUNCIL ALLOWED SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES BUT THE PROCESS TO GET THAT APPROVAL WAS SO LONG THAT MOST FOLKS ENDED UP, YOU KNOW, JUST REMOVING THEIR APPLICATION. SO THIS IS AN IDEA TO SAY, PERHAPS WE SHOULD CONSIDER HAVING SOME CITY PROPERTY OPENED UP AS SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES TO WE CAN IN FACT PROTECT OUR PARKS AND OUR OPEN SPACE. >> AND I DID READ, MR. PRESIDENT, I DID READ AS FAST AS I COULD, READ THE RESOLUTION. WHAT EXACTLY DOES THE RESOLUTION DO? COULD YOU JUST EXPLAIN THAT AGAIN? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNSELOR DAVIS, COUNSELOR LEWIS, SORRY. SO THE RESOLUTION SAYS THAT THE APPEALS PROCESS WOULD BE MINIMIZED FOR SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES. SO ONCE THE PERMIT IS GRANTED, THEN THE CITY COULD SET UP THAT SAFE OUTDOOR SPACE TO THAT WE CAN PROVIDE ALTERNATIVE PLACES FOR FOLKS TO BE RATHER THAN BEING IN OUR PARKS AND OUR OPEN SPACES AFTER NOVEMBER 1ST. >> IS IT OKAY IF I CAN ASK THE CITY ATTORNEY AS FAR AS HOW THE CITY IS APPROACHING THAT JUDGMENT AND THEIR APPROACH AND IF THAT EVEN AFFECTS AT ALL THIS RESOLUTION IN ANY WAY. BECAUSE MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE CITY ATTORNEY IS AGGRESSIVELY SUPPORTING OUR CURRENT POLICY. REGARDING THAT. >> I JUST WANT TO CAUTION, IS IT APPROPRIATE TO DISCUSS ANY LEGAL STRATEGY IN THIS FORUM? I WANT TO ANSWER THAT BUT I WANTED TO -- >> GENERALLY IT'S NOT. I CAN SAY THAT WE HAVE ALREADY FILED SOME PLEADINGS ASKING FOR A JUDGE'S DECISION AND WE'LL FILE ANOTHER ONE SHORTLY. WE'RE FINDING WAYS TO COMPLY WITH THE INJUNCTION IN THE MEANTIME, ONE OF THEM IS FINDING MORE BEDS. >> I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION. THE QUESTION CAME UP. EXACTLY HOW MANY BEDS IS THE COURT REQUIRING US TO HAVE? >> COUNSELOR DAVIS, COUNSELOR LEWIS, THE COURT DID NOT SAY. THE COURT DID NOT SAY. YOU KNOW, THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS WE MAY SEE CLARIFICATION ON. CURRENTLY WE HAVE 1,200 BEDS AND SOME OF THOSE SHELTERS HAVE CAPACITY FOR MORE, BUT THERE WAS NOT A SPECIFIC NUMBER GIVEN OF "WE CAN CLEAR ENCAMPMENTS ONCE THESE BEDS ARE AVAILABLE." >> A LOT OF THIS COMES UP, 1,200 BEDS. BUT THE KEY IS EMPTY BEDS, RIGHT? 1,200 BEDS MIGHT BE WESTSIDE SHELTER AND THEN A FEW OTHERS. THE KEY IS EMPTY BEDS. WE'VE IDENTIFIED THAT OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS TOO, OF EMPTY BEDS ON ANY GIVEN NIGHT. A LOT OF TIMES WHEN WE HAVE DONE THOSE COUNTS, AND THE DEPARTMENTS HAVE DONE THAT AND WE FIND, LIKE, 400 EMPTY BEDS EVERY NIGHT. FOUR HUNDRED EMPTY BEDS EVERY NIGHT. WHEN I SEE A COURT DO A DECISION LIKE THAT, I THINK WE HAVE SO MUCH, YOU KNOW, WHEN IT COMES TO JUST A GREAT DEFENSE TO BE ABLE TO SAY WE'RE GOING TO ENFORCE AND DO WHAT WE BELIEVE OUR LAWS SAY KNOWING THAT IF THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT NEED A BED TONIGHT, THEY HAVE A BED DON'T. >> LET ME BRING US BACK TO THIS REALLY QUICKLY. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S GOTTEN TO THIS PART, BUT I'VE ASKED THE CLERK TO SCHEDULE AN EXECUTIVE SESSION ON YOUR NEXT AGENDA TO DISCUSS OUR STRATEGY ON THIS PARTICULAR MATTER AND WHETHER OR NOT WE NEED IT OR NOT, I'VE ASKED THE CLERK'S OFFICE TO WORK ON THAT JUST SO WE HAVE IT SCHEDULED. I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AND I WANT US TO CONTINUE THAT CONVERSATION, BUT A REMINDER THAT THIS IS JUST ABOUT SUSPENDING THE RULES, I AGREED TWO MATTERS TO BE ELIGIBLE FOR HOLDOVER IF THEY PASS WITH THE RULES SUSPENSION, BOTH BECAUSE THEY'RE FAIRLY URGENT LEGAL MATTERS. >> THAT'S FINE, THANKS FOR THE LEEWAY, I APPRECIATE IT. >> I APPRECIATE THE QUESTIONS. AGAIN, I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO DISCUSS BECAUSE WHETHER OR NOT WE AGREE WITH THE JUDGE, HE IS THE JUDGE AND HE HAS SAID THERE'S AN INJUNCTION AND IT STARTS ON NOVEMBER 1ST AND I HAVE VERY, VERY SERIOUS CONCERNS ABOUT THE SAFETY AND MAINTENANCE OF OUR PARKS, OUR OPEN SPACE. QUITE FRANKLY, THE AREA OUT FRONT OF OUR LIBRARY, ANYTHING THAT'S NOT A SIDEWALK, PRIVATE PROPERTY, OR A POOL IS FAIR GAME UNDER MY READING OF THIS INJUNCTION. I'M SEEING THE CITY ATTORNEY SHAKING HER HEAD THAT I READ IT RIGHT. I'M NOT AN ATTORNEY. THE JUDGE IS VERY CLEAR THAT IT SAYS THERE ARE MORE HOMELESS PEOPLE THAN THERE ARE BEDS FOR THOSE HOMELESS PEOPLE. SO THIS IS ONE IDEA THAT COULD BE PAIRED WITH MANY OTHER IDEAS TO PROVIDE ENOUGH PLACES FOR FOLKS TO GO SO THAT WE COULD THEN, YOU KNOW, MAINTAIN THOSE REALLY VITAL RESOURCES FOR OUR COMMUNITY, LIKE PARKS AND OTHER PLACES. ALL I'M ASKING FOR IS AN INTRODUCTION HERE AND WE CAN HAVE THIS CONVERSATION AT LENGTH ON NOVEMBER 8TH. >> THAT BEING THE MOTION, WE'LL ASK THE CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL. >> COUNSELOR BASSAN? >> NO. >> COUNSELOR BENTON? >> YES. >> COUNSELOR FIEBELKORN? >> YES. >> COUNTER GRANT. >> NO. >> COUNSELOR JONES. >> YES. >> COUNSELOR LEWIS? >> YES. >> COUNSELOR PENA? COUNSELOR PENA? THANK YOU. COUNSELOR SANCHEZ? >> NO. >> COUNSELOR DAVIS? >> YES. >> THAT PASSES ON A SIX-THREE VOTE. >> THAT MATTER WILL BE ON OUR NOVEMBER 8TH. I THINK I GOT THE LOOK FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY. THANKS. ANY OTHER CHANGES TO THE LETTER OF INTRODUCTION? >> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT, I MOVE APPROVAL TO THE LETTER OF INTRODUCTION. >> SEVERAL SECONDS WE'LL TAKE COUNSELOR BENTON, FIRST. MADAM CLERK. >> COUNSELOR BASSAN? >> YES. >> COUNTER BENTON. >> YES. >> COUNSELOR GRANT. >> YES. >> COUNSELOR JONES. >> YES. >> COUNSELOR LEWIS. >> YES. >> COUNSELOR PENA. >> YES. >> COUNSELOR SANCHEZ. >> YES. >> THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >> THANK YOU ALL, REPORTS FROM COMMITTEES, NONE, ARE THERE ANY REFERRALS OR WITHDRAWALS ON THE AGENDA THIS EVENING, SEEING NONE, MOVING ON. ANY CHANGES TO THE CONSENT AGENDA? SEEING NONE, I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE AND THANK ALL THE FOLKS WHO VOLUNTEERED TO SERVE ON THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS. THOSE ARE LENGTHY PROCESSES. THERE ARE A NUMBER OF THOSE IN OUR CONSENT TONIGHT. WE APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICE AND LOOK BACK TO HEARING ABOUT YOUR WORK VERY SOON. >> I MOVE APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT AGENDA. >> COUNSELOR FIEBELKORN? >> COUNSELOR GROUT? >> YES. >> COUNSELOR JONES? >> YES. >> COUNSELOR LEWIS? >> YES. >> COUNSELOR PENA? >> YES. >> COUNSELOR SANCHEZ? >> YES. >> COUNSELOR DAVIS. >> YES. >> MOVING ON TO ANNOUNCEMENTS. >> THERE WILL BE A FINANCE AND OPERATIONS COMMITTEE MEETING ON MONDAY, OCTOBER 23RD AT 5 P.M. ACHIEVE ZOOM. >> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT, THERE WILL BE AN INTERVIEWER GOVERNMENTAL RELATIONS COMMITTEE TUESDAY OCTOBER 24TH AT 2 P.M. VIA ZOOM. >> ANY OTHER ANNOUNCEMENTS? SEEING NONE, WE HAVE FINANCIAL INSTRUMENTS, WHICH WE HAVE NONE. IT IS TIME FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. LET ME OUTLINE RULES AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT SPECIAL PROCEDURES ON TOP OF THAT FOR THOSE WHO ARE NORMAL ATTENDEES. MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC CAN ALWAYS PROVIDE LIVE PUBLIC COMMENT TO THE COUNCIL IN PERSON OR VIRTUALLY IF YOU SIGNED UP FOR THE COMMENT VIA THE INSTRUCTIONS AND OPPORTUNITIES PUBLISHED ON THE AGENDA. TONIGHT A WHOLE BUNCH OF PEOPLE HAVE, SO THAT SEEMS TO HAVE WORKED. YOU HAVE UP TO TWO MINUTES TO PRESENT, THOUGH YOU NEED NOT USE ALL YOUR TIME. YOUR COMMENTS MUST BE PRESENTED AND ADDRESSED TO COUNSELORS THROUGH THE PRESIDENT AND ANY DISRUPTIVE COMMENT WILL RESULT IN REMOVAL FROM THE MEETING, AS DISCUSSED EARLIER. WE HAVE A COUPLE OF SPECIAL RULES TONIGHT. THERE ARE TWO ITEMS THAT HAVE KIND OF SPECIAL RULES. IT'S IMPORTANT WE PAY ATTENTION BECAUSE IF WE WANT TO PROCEED WITH THOSE ITEMS TONIGHT WE HAVE TO FOLLOW THE RULES. ONE, FOR THOSE OF YOU SIGNED UP TO SPEAK REGARDING THE MEXICO UNITED STADIUM LEASE, THERE'S A PORTION OF THE PROJECT INVOLVING A LAND USE APPLICATION. THAT MAY COME BEFORE THIS COUNCIL SO ANY COMMENTS ON THE STADIUM HAVE TO FOCUS ONLY ON THE TERMS OF THE LEASE AGREEMENT ITSELF AND POLICY DISCUSSIONS REGARDING THE DEVELOPMENT AND GENERAL LOCATION OF A STADIUM. LAND USE COMMENTS WHICH SPECIFICALLY MIGHT INCLUDE THOSE REGARDING THE AMENDMENT OF THE MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR THE PARK OR A SITE PLAN WON'T BE PERMITTED. I HAVE TO CUT YOU OFF. THERE'S A PROCESS FOUR TO WEIGH IN THROUGH THE EPC OR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION OR OTHER THINGS IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN THAT. AND OUR STAFF CAN HELP YOU WITH THAT. BUT TO PROCEED TONIGHT WE HAVE TO FOLLOW THOSE RULED. THERE'S ALSO AN APPEAL INVOLVING A CANNABIS DISTANCE BUFFER RULE. IF YOU ARE HEAR TO SPEAK ABOUT THAT, YOU CANNOT SPEAK ABOUT THE SPECIFICS OF THAT HEARING, PLEASE GIVE US NOTICE BEFORE HAND AND WE'LL GIVE YOU A CHANCE TO SPEAK IN A WAY THAT PROTECTS YOUR RIGHT TO SPEAK. WE'LL MOVE TO OUR FIRST SPEAKERS. FIRST UP, I SEE COMMISSIONER BARBOA, WE SAW YOU EARLIER AND GLAD YOU ARE BACK. >> THANK YOU, CHAIR, AND MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME TODAY. I AM ADRIANN B, A I STAND CAN KELLY O. WHO ALSO LOST HER SON TO FENTANYL. I COME HERE TONIGHT, AS A DAUGHTER OF AN OPIOID USER. I OFTEN START THAT STORY AND SAY THAT MY FATHER WAS A PERSON WHO TAUGHT ME MATH, TAUGHT ME HOW IMPORTANT SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY WAS, WHAT MADE SURE I WAS LEARNING LANGUAGES, WHO TOOK US CAMPING, TAUGHT ME HOW TO CHANGE THE TIRE ON MY CAR AND MAKE SURE AS A WOMAN I KNEW HOW TO CHANGE THE OIL AND TIRES ON MY CAR BEFORE I COULD EVEN DRIVE. MY DAD SHOWED US SO MUCH LOVE. I'M SURE MY MOM AS A DIFFERENT STORY ABOUT WHAT IT WAS LIKE BEING MARRIED TO SOMEBODY LIKE MY FATHER BUT AS A DAUGHTER, I KNEW THE LOVE, STRENGTH, SMARTS AND SKILLS HE BROUGHT TO OUR FAMILY. I SAY IF YOU GREW UP HERE IN NEW MEXICO, YOU LOVE SOMEBODY, LOVE WITH YOUR HEART, LOVE WITH YOUR CARE, SOMEBODY WHO SUFFERED THROUGH SUBSTANCE USE DISORDER. BIG PHARMACEUTICALS PREYED ON OUR FAMILY. THEY HAVE KNOWN INTENTIONALLY, AN I CAN'T HELP BUT WONDER ABOUT WHEN THE PREVIOUS GOVERNOR'S ADMINISTRATION GUTTED THE SYSTEM AND PEOPLE WERE LOST WITHOUT THE HEALTH CARE PROVIDERS THEY RELIED ON FOR YEARS. FAMILIES WERE BROKEN AND SERVICES WERE RIPPED FROM THEM. BECAUSE OF THE OPIOID SETTLEMENT DOLLARS COMING OFF THE BACKS OF FAMILIES LIKE AUSTEN AND GRACEON AND FARRAH'S SON AND ALL THE FAMILIES THAT HAVE LOST SOMEONE, THEY COME HERE BECAUSE THEY KNOW THAT THAT FUNDING CAN CREATE A SYSTEM OF CARE THAT THEY DIDN'T HAVE, THE KINDS OF THINGS THAT OUR FAMILIES NEEDED. IT MUST INCLUDE TRAUMA-RESPONSE CARE. >> THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE AND TELLING YOUR STORY. WE HAVE ANOTHER ITEM TALKING ABOUT OUR POLICIES FOR AN OPIOID SETTLE WITH THE COUNTY. WE THANK YOU. MR. CORNELIUE, YOU HAVE YOUR LIST AND THEY HAVE UP TO TWO MINUTES, IF YOU DON'T WANT TO USE IT, THAT'S TOTALLY FINE. HAPPY TO HEAR FROM YOU. BUT IF YOU WANT TO SAY YOU SUPPORT THIS OR WANT TO DO THAT OR IF YOU AGREE WITH THE SPEAKER BEFORE YOU, THAT'S TOTALLY FINE. WE TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT AND THEN WHEN WE GET TO THE LEASE, THERE ARE PEOPLE SIGNED UP ON THE BILL. DEPENDING ON THE LIST YOU ARE SIGNED UP ON, MAY DETERMINE WHERE YOU ARE ON THE LIST. MR. CORNELIUS, IT IS YOURS. >> THANK YOU, THE NEXT SPEAKER IS PETER L. >> MR. PRESIDENT, MADAM VICE PRESIDENT AND COUNSELORS, GOOD EVENING, THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME HERE TONIGHT, I'M A MEMBER OF THE GREATER ALBUQUERQUE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE AND SERVE AS THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS CHAIR. EVEN THOUGH I'M NOT WEARING MY UNITED SHIRT TODAY, I'M GOING TO TESTIFY TODAY ON BEHALF OF THE CHAMBER IN SUPPORT OF THE PROPOSED LEASE AGREEMENT WHICH WOULD ALLOW UNITED TO BUILD A $30 MILLION STADIUM AND NEEDED PARKING. IN EXCHANGE THE CITY WILL RECEIVE $35,000 IN RENTAL ANNUALLY AND 10% OF THE PARKING REVENUE, BUT THAT'S JUST THE START. IT WILL EXPAND DAYS IN THE PARK TO 365 DAYS A YEAR ALONG FOR YOUTH SPORTS, CONCERT AND RECREATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES. THIS WILL A WIN FOR NEW MEXICO UNITED ON THESE BALLOON PARK GROUNDS. I ASK THE CITY COUNCIL TO APPROVE THIS IMPORTANT AND MUCH-NEEDED MEASURE. THANK YOU. >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, MADAM VICE PRESIDENT COUNCIL. I WILL NOT BE TESTIFYING TODAY AFTER THE ANNOUNCEMENT, SO THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> FRANCESCO, FOLLOWED BY CRYSTAL LITTLE. >> THERE ARE MANY PRECIOUS STONES IN THE LAND OF ENCHANTMENT. THE CROWN JEWEL BY FAR IS BALLOON FIESTA. IT HAS MADE ITS HOME IN THE HEART OF DISTRICT 4 AND HAS GROWN WELL BEYOND THE PERIMETER OF OUR BEAUTIFUL CITY AND SHOULD BE CELEBRATED, NURTURED, AND PROTECTED FOR GENERATIONS TO COME. SEEING A BALLOON OVER THE ALBUQUERQUE SKIES IS SOMETHING THAT NEVER GETS OLD. IT NEVER GETS OLD. SO I THINK WE SHOULD DO STUDIES ABOUT THAT. LOTS AND LOTS OF STUDIES. AND, OF COURSE, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING WITH THE RESULTS. MY NAME IS FRANCESCO, AND I APPROVE THIS MESSAGE. >> HANG ON JUST A SECOND. FOR SOME OF YOU WHO DON'T KNOW, HE HAS TAKEN IT UPON HIMSELF TO DRAW THESE FOR OUR COUNSELORS. SO WE WAIT FOR THESE. THESE ARE NOT SMALL, HOW LONG DID THIS TAKE? >> I WILL SEND YOU THE VIDEO. THERE'S A VIDEO ABOUT HOW LONG THEY TAKE, BUT I WON'T MAKE YOU SIT THERE AND WAIT. I FAST FORWARD THEM. SO YOU CAN LOOK. I WOULD SAY NOT VERY LONG, NOT VERY LONG. >> THANK YOU, SIR. >> THANK YOU, THANK YOU. >> CRYSTAL LITTLE FOLLOWED BY QUINN M. >> HI. GOOD EVENING. MR. PRESIDENT, MADAM VICE PRESIDENT COUNCILMEMBERS. FULL DISCLOSURE, I AM CURRENTLY THE AGENCY VP FOR THE ACS UNION THROUGH CWA, BUT I AM HERE AS A CONSTITUENT, AS A CITY COMMUNITY MEMBER AND A RESPONDER. I NOTICE THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF TALK ABOUT WHAT IS AND ISN'T GOING ON. I JUST WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT TO REMIND EVERYBODY WHY THIS IS SO IMPORTANT. SO ACS, FOR THOSE OF YOU NOT FAMILIAR, ALBUQUERQUE COMMUNITY SAFETY. WE'RE THE THIRD BRANCH OF FIRST RESPONDERS. OUR FOCUS SHOULD BE ON MENTAL AND BEHAVIORAL HEALTH AND IN A WAY WE SUPPLEMENT THE OTHER TWO FIRST RESPONDERS UNITS. IT'S LEARNING TO WORK TOGETHER. I JUST WANT TO KIND OF READ OUR MISSION STATEMENT BECAUSE I'M CONCERNED THAT WE ARE NO LONGER FOCUSED ON WHAT THE MISSION WAS AT THE BEGINNING. SO THE MISSION STATEMENT IS TO PROVIDE ALBUQUERQUE WITH HOLISTIC AND EMPATHIC INFORMED RESPONSE TO BEHAVIORAL AND MENTAL HEALTH RELATED 911 CALL. RESPONDERS ARE PERSONALIZED TO NEEDS OF THE INDIVIDUALS AND THE COMMUNITIES SO THE ACS CAN BRING THE RIGHT RESPONSE FOR THE RIGHT TIME. I CONTINUE TO STAY WITH THE DEPARTMENT DESPITE MY CONCERNS BECAUSE IT'S IMPORTANT TO ME WHAT THAT MISSION IS. I WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE WORK WITH DIFFERENT COUNCILMEMBERS, COMMUNITY MEMBERS, WITH WHOEVER I'M ABLE TO, SO THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE MEETING THIS MISSION. IT'S BEEN LOST AND I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE GO BACK TO THAT. MYSELF INCLUDED, THERE'S A LOT OF US THAT HAVE MENTAL HEALTH AND BEHAVIORAL HEALTH BACKGROUNDS. I'VE BEEN IN THIS FIELD FOR 21 YEARS AND SUBSTANCE USE, I KNOW HOW IMPORTANT IT IS, HOW MUCH WE CAN CONTINUE TO HELP. I JUST ASK THAT WE LISTEN TO THE RESPONDERS ABOUT SOME OF THOSE CONCERNS SO WE CAN KEEP MOVING FORWARD. >> COUNSELOR LEWIS HAS A QUESTION. >> YES, SIR. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH, I APPRECIATE FOR THE ROLE THAT YOU PLAY AND FOR THE PEOPLE YOU REPRESENT. YOU SAID YOU ARE THE THIRD -- I FORGET THE TERM YOU SAID. >> FIRST RESPONDER DEPARTMENT. >> THE THIRD FIRST RESPONDER DEPARTMENT. I WANT TO ASK YOU A QUESTION. DO YOU BELIEVE THAT ACS REDUCES OFFER-INVOLVED SHOOTINGS? >> I CAN'T SPEAK TO THAT, HONESTLY. I THINK THAT EACH SITUATION IS DIFFERENT. AND WHATEVER HAPPENS IN THOSE SITUATIONS ISN'T ALWAYS BLACK OR WHITE. IT'S NOT AS CLEAR AS WE MAY THINK THEY ARE. I DO KNOW THAT OUR DEPARTMENT WORKS REALLY HARD AND OUR RESPONDERS WORK REALLY HARD TO PROVIDE AND ALTERNATIVE AND GOING AND BEING ABLE TO SPEAK TO THE MENTAL HEALTH OR BEHAVIORAL HEALTH OR SUBSTANCE SITUATION, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO CREATE RAPPORT WITH INDIVIDUALS. WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO CREATE A DIFFERENT DIALOGUE. AND WE'RE CREATING AN OPPORTUNITY FOR INDIVIDUALS TO REACH OUT BEFORE IT GETS TO THAT POINT. >> I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY A GOOD WAY TO -- I THINK THAT'S GOOD. I'VE HEARD OTHERS SAY, INCLUDING THE DIRECTOR, THAT THE DEPARTMENT THAT, THAT YOUR AGENTS REDUCE OFFICER-INVOLVED SHOOTINGS, IF THAT HAPPENS, THAT WOULD BE REMARKABLE, I THINK IT'S IMPOSSIBLE. AND THAT'S NOT THE PURPOSE. I THINK YOU SERVE A VERY IMPORTANT ROLE, BUT IT'S NOT TO BE IN A VIOLENT SITUATION LIKE THAT. AND BE ABLE TO DO THAT. SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU GUYS ARE NOT IN THOSE KINDS OF VIOLENT SITUATIONS LIKE THAT. I THINK THE WAY YOU CHARACTERIZE HOW YOU RESPOND AND TALK TO INDIVIDUALS AND HELP PEOPLE I THINK IS IMPORTANT AS A PART OF THE WHOLE PROCESS. ANYWAYS, THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> QUINN MOLDERN, FOLLOWED BY JAMES FREEMAN. >> LOOKS LIKE YOU HAVE SOME HELP. >> YEAH, MY BABYSITTER FELL THROUGH. MR. PRESIDENT, MADAM VICE PRESIDENT, COUNSELORS, THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. MY NAME IS QUINN, I'M A BEHAVIORAL HEALTH RESPONDER AT ACS, FULL DISCLOSURE, I'M ALSO PART OF OUR UNION, PART OF THE ORGANIZING COMMITTEE FOR OUR UNION. I'M HERE TODAY ON BEHALF OF MYSELF AS A COMMUNITY MEMBER, SOMETIMES THINGS ARE SAID ABOUT OUR UNIONIZING EFFORTS AND STUFF, I'LL LEAVE THAT TO THE SIDE. I WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR AND I WANT TO PUT MY FULL SUPPORT FOR ACS ON THE PICK UP RECORD. I THINK IT'S AN INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT DEPARTMENT. I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT HAS DONE A LOT OF GOOD. FREQUENTLY PEOPLE STOP ME WHEN THEY SEE OUR CAR AND A PERSON WILL SAY, YOU SAVED MY SON'S LIFE. THEY'LL THANK US FOR HOW WE RESPONDED. AND WE BASICALLY RESPONDED ON THE WORST DAY OF THEIR LIVES. ONE OF THE THINGS MR. SANCHEZ BROUGHT UP EARLIER WAS ABOUT LONGITUDINAL CARE, THE ABILITY TO TRACK AND SEE HOW PEOPLE ARE MOVING THROUGH THE SOCIAL SERVICES OF THE CITY. AND TO WHERE OUR RESPONSE END WITH THE SOCIAL SERVICES AS WELL. I THINK THAT'S JUST ONE OF THE SUGGESTIONS THAT RESPONDERS, NOT JUST COUNSELOR SANCHEZ HAS BROUGHT UP OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS. RESPONDERS IN THIS JOB HAVE OVER AND OVER BROUGHT IDEAS AND CONCERNS AND BROUGHT THOSE THINGS TO OUR LEADERSHIP AND THEY'VE GOING UNADDRESSED OR IGNORED OR IF YOU SPEAK UP IN OUR DEPARTMENT, IT TENDS TO PAINT A TARGET ON YOUR BACK. WE'RE TRYING TO CHANGE THIS. I WANT TO MAKE THE COUNCIL AWARE THAT WE'VE LOST 18 RESPONDERS SIN THE START OF OUR DEPARTMENT. THERE'S A MORALE ISSUE. WE NEED MORE FUNDING, CASE MANAGEMENT, MORE AMBITION GOALS AND I THINK THOSE GOALS COULD BE BENEFICIAL TO EVERYONE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> JAMES FREEMAN AND MARCELYN. >> GOOD EVENING, WANTED TO BRING UP CLARITY ON BED ISSUES. I'M KIND OF AN EXPERT IN THE DEPARTMENT. JOY JUNCTION MIGHT HAVE 200 OR 250 BEDS BUT THE MAJORITY ARE FOR WOMEN AND CHILDREN. SINGLE MEN HAVE ONLY ABOUT 15 BEDS AT JOY JUNCTION. THE WEBSITE IS THE SAME WAY, IT'S LIKE A 75-25 SPLIT. THE ONES THAT ARE EMPTY A LOT OF THE TIMES ARE FOR WOMEN AND CHILDREN. THE SINGLE MEN BEDS ARE ALMOST FULL ALL THE TIME, YEAR-ROUND. I THINK THAT'S WHERE A LITTLE BIT OF THE CONFUSION IS. BEDS CANNOT JUST BE TRANSITIONED TO SINGLE MEN BEDS AT ANY OF THE FACILITIES. SO I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF MAKE THAT CLEAR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> MARCELYN MARTIN. >> GOOD EVENING, TODAY I HAD WORDS PREPARED, I HAD SOMETHING TO SAY, BUT WHAT I WITNESSED TODAY AND WHAT I HEARD MADE ME THINK. SO MANY OF THESE THINGS FROM COMMUNITY SAFETY TO FILLING BEDS TO ALL OF THIS STUFF, IT'S PERPETUATED BY THE HOUSING CRISES, BY THE FACT THAT PEOPLE HAVE TEMPORARY BEDS TO STAY IN FOR THE NIGHT, FOR THE TIME, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE PERMANENT HOUSING, EVERY SINGLE COUNTRY, CITY, OR MUNICIPALITY THAT HAS SOLVED THIS ISSUE OR SEEN ANY IMPROVEMENT IN THE AREA OF HOMELESSNESS HAVE DONE HOUSING-FIRST POLICIES. IT'S ABOUT PUTTING PEOPLE IN HOMES FIRST, BECAUSE PEOPLE CANNOT LIVE A QUALITY LIFE GOING FROM SHELTER TO SHELTER. IT'S DEPRESSING, IT'S SAD, AND I WOULD LOVE SO SEE MORE ACTION FROM THIS CITY. >> MR. PAT HOWSER. >> THANK YOU, COUNSELORS, I PUSHED THE WRONG BUTTON, SO I'M SCHEDULED TO TALK AGAIN, I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND I'LL DO THAT IN A MOMENT. >> KAREN N., FOLLOWED BY SOFA MARTINEZA PA HA MARTINEZ. >> GOOD AFTERNOON. I'M -- HAS THE TIMER STARTED NOW? THIS IS MY SON ALEX. I JUST WANTED TO GO OVER HOW OPIOIDS CAN AFFECT ANYBODY IN THE COMMUNITY, INCLUDING OUR CHILDREN AND OUR YOUTH. THE PILL THAT WAS CREATED CREATED AN EPIDEMIC AND NOW WE'RE LOSING LIVES THAT HAVE NO PRICE VALUE TO THEM. WE NEED MORE HARM-REDUCTION AND PREVENTION. THE PHARMACEUTICAL COMPANIES CAME INTO OUR SCHOOLS, OUR COMMUNITY, AND THE STREETS, LEADING TO AN EPIDEMIC THAT WE ARE NOW FACING. I MY 16-YEAR-OLD SON ALEX TOOK A PILL FROM A FRIEND AT SCHOOL. IT WAS PURE FENTANYL. HE ALMOST DIED. I WAS IN THE ICU, I SAW HIM GO THROUGH A LOT. THE DOCTOR SAID HE DIDN'T HAVE AADDICTIONS, BUT IF HE TRIED ANYTHING AGAIN, IT WOULD KILL HIM. MY BIGGEST FEAR CAME TRUE. THERE WERE NO SAFETY MEASURES TO HELP SAVE HIS LIFE. OUR YOUTHS' BODIES ARE STILL DEVELOPING AND UNFORTUNATELY MY SON'S BODY CANNOT HANDLE FENTANYL. SO PLEASE SAVE OUR YOUTH. HE IS FOREVER 16 AND I WILL FOREVER BE HIS VOICE NOW. >> I THINK I WAS NEXT, SOPHIA, MARTINEZ. GOOD EVENING, PRESIDENT AND VICE PRESIDENT AND COUNSELORS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR MOVING UP THE PUBLIC COMMENTS. MY NAME'S SOPHIA, I'M A COCOORDINATOR HERE IN NEW MEXICO. IT HAS PUSHED A LOT OF ISSUES NATIONALLY TO PROTECT COMMUNITIES OF COLOR FROM ACCUMULATIVE IMPACTS OF POISONING IN OUR AIR QUALITY. WE STAND HERE TO OPPOSE COUNCIL BILL 02238 SPONSORED BY COUNSELOR LEWIS. WE DEFINITELY OPPOSE THIS. WE CONSIDER THIS BASICALLY A DISINGENUOUS EFFORT BACKED PROBABLY BY INDUSTRY AND BEING CONTRIBUTORS BECAUSE THE REALITY IS THAT AT THE END OF THIS PROPOSED RESOLUTION, THAT WOULD BE DECEMBER 3RD OF THE WEEK THAT THE HEARING WOULD HAPPEN BY THE AIR QUALITY BOARD ON CUMULATIVE IMPACTS. I WAS AT A MEETING A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO WHERE TWO OF THE COUNSELORS WERE AT THE GIBSON FACILITY. WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE UNSHELTERED. I REMEMBER HEARING THAT YOU WERE VERY INCENSED ABOUT THE FACT THAT YOU HAD BEEN TO THE GIBSON FACILITY AND HAD BEEN EXPOSED TO ASBESTOS, YET AN HOUR LATER, YOU VOTED TO SUPPORT A RESOLUTION BY COUNSELOR LEWIS. SO THIS IS REALLY KIND OF A DISINGENUOUS THING, BECAUSE ARE YOU OKAY TO PROTECT YOURSELF BUT NOT THE PEOPLE OF THIS COUNTY? NUMBER ONE, THIS IS YOUR RESPONSIBILITY TO PROTECT THE POPULATION OF THIS CITY AND THIS COUNTY. SO I URGE YOU TO VOTE AGAINST COUNCIL BILL 02388. YOU HAVE A RESPONDENT TO PROTECT US, NOT YOUR COUNCIL OR YOUR CAMPAIGN OR INDUSTRY SUPPORTERS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, I APPRECIATE YOUR WORK. >> JANE LEE FOLLOWED BY RHIANNON SAMUEL. >> GOOD EVENING MR. PRESIDENT AND CITY COUNSELORS. MY NAME IS JANE YEE, I RETIRED FROM THE CITY LEGAL DEPARTMENT IN MARCH OF 2022 BUT I'VE BEEN AN ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE SINCE THEN AND I'M HERE IN THAT CAPACITY TODAY AS A PRIVATE CITIZEN. I AM HERE TO REGISTER MY ADAMANT OPPOSITION TO ALL 23-88, THE ATTEMPT TO ABOLISH THE AIR QUALITY CONTROL BOARD, FOR TWO REASONS. ONE, THIS LEGISLATION IS WRITTEN SPECIFICALLY TO THWART THE PASSAGE OF THE HEALTH ENVIRONMENT AND EQUITY IMPACT ORDINANCE, SPECIFICALLY TO THWART THAT. THERE ARE LEGAL CONSTRAINTS AGAINST PASSING LEGISLATION SPECIFICALLY AIMED TOWARD A PENDING CASE, BUT MORE FUNDAMENTALLY, AS MY COLLEAGUE SOPHIA STATED, THE COMMUNITY SUPPORT, THE HEEI ORDINANCE AND WE FEEL AS IF -- FOR A MOMENT HERE I WILL SPEAK FOR OTHERS. WE FEEL IN A GENERAL SENSE AS IF A RUG HAS BEEN SWEPT FROM UNDER OUR FEET AFTER WORK ON THIS FOR MANY, MANY YEARS. SECONDLY, I'LL SAY THAT THE ALBUQUERQUE BERNALILLO COUNTY AIR QUALITY CONTROL BOARD IS A HARD-WORK AND COMMITTED, COURAGEOUS BOARD WHO SHOWED THE COURAGE TO ADDRESS ENVIRONMENTAL INJUSTICE THROUGH THIS RULE-MAKING. THEY DO NOT DESERVE TO BE ABOLISHED AND ANY KIND OF REFORMS CAN BE ACCOMPLISHED LESS DRASTICALLY. THANK YOU, GREAT TO BE BACK. >> GOOD TO SEE YOU BACK, COUNSELOR LEWIS HAS A QUESTION. THANK YOU, MA'AM, FOR COMING. THE BILL WAS INTRODUCED TONIGHT, ALONG WITH THE NEXT TIME WE HAVE FINAL ACTION ON THIS, THERE'LL BE SO MUCH TIME FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON IT. THIS IS JUST A REMINDER TO EVERYBODY THAT AN ORDINANCE IS, I MEAN THIS IS MANY PAGES, THERE'S A LOT OF PAGES IN THIS BILL. THIS BILL ABSOLUTELY DOES NOT ABOLISH THE AIR QUALITY BOARD. SO IF YOU READ THE BILL, AND I HOPE EVERYONE WHO MAKES COMMENTS ON THIS BOARD WOULD READ IT, I MEAN REALLY READ IT AND KNOW ABOUT THE CHANGES WE'RE PROPOSING SO WE'RE NOT SPREADING MISINFORMATION. WE'RE NOT ABOLISHING THE AIR QUALITY BOARD. WE'RE HELPING THE BOARD TO BECOME MORE REFLECTIVE OF THE COMMUNITY THAT IT SERVES, ACCOUNTABLE TO THOSE, APPOINT MEMBERS TO THAT BOARD. I'D BEEN GLAD TO HAVE ANY CONVERSATION WHATSOEVER WITH ANYBODY WHO IS HERE TONIGHT OR WHO HAS ANY INTEREST SPECIFICALLY IN THIS ORDINANCE AND WHAT IT DOES AND WHAT IT CHANGES, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS ORDINANCE, THAT WE'RE -- WE ALL MIGHT HAVE DIFFERENT OPINIONS ABOUT IT, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SAME THING. >> THANK YOU, WE'LL SEE YOU BACK IN A COUPLE WEEKS, THREE WEEKS, MAYBE. >> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. >> HELLO, MR. PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR FOR THE COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE ASSOCIATION. I'M HERE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE TWO PIECES OF LEGISLATION, THE RESOLUTION AND THE ORDINANCE INTRODUCED BY COUNSELOR LEWIS IN THE LETTER OF INTRODUCTION RELATED TO THE AIR QUALITY CONTROL BOARD. AS I TALKED TO YOU ALL FOR ABOUT A YEAR, THE PETITION IS NOT AS SIMPLE AS THE HEALTH IMPACT. CERTAINLY THAT IS A PIECE OF IT AND INDUSTRY STANDS READY TO ADDRESS THE CONCERNS, BUT THE PETITION BEING CONSIDERED RIGHT NOW WOULD KILL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. WE BELIEVE THAT THE ORDINANCE THAT COUNSELOR LEWIS HAS INTRODUCED WILL REPLACE THE BOARD WITH AN ACCOUNTABLE GOVERNING BODY THAT WILL CREATE A BOARD THAT IS MORE EFFECTIVE, RESPONSIVE AND BETTER EQUIPPED TO SRVE THE INTERESTS OF THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY, NOT JUST ONE SPECIAL INTEREST. SO WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT IN THE COMING WEEKS, BUT I ENCOURAGE YOU TO READ THE BILL, CONSIDER IT FOR ITS MERITS AND REALLY SEE WHAT IT'S GOING FOR INSTEAD OF WHAT MISINFORMATION IS OUT THERE. THANK YOU, COUNSELOR LEWIS, FOR INTRODUCING IT. >> GOOD EVENING COUNCIL PRESIDENT, MADAM VICE PRESIDENT, CITY COUNSELORS. TONIGHT I'M SPEAKING AS A CITIZEN VOLUNTEER, YOU MIGHT NO MORE FROM WORK AT THE COUNCIL. LAST MEETING I SPOKE ABOUT THE CYCLICAL DISPLACEMENT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE ON THE FRINGE AND HOUSED IN HOTEL VOUCHERS WITH MONEY TO SPEND ON INFLATED HOTEL ROOMS. TODAY I'M HERE TO CONNECT THE DOTS. AS THOUGH OUR NEIGHBORS WITHOUT HOMES ARE RUBBISH IN THE STREET. YOU MIGHT REMEMBER THE STORY OF THE GRANDMA WHO WAS BOOTED FROM THE HOTEL AND BACK ON THE SIDEWALK IN DISTRICT 2. I FOUND HER A BED IN A WOMEN'S SHELTER, BUT I HAD TROUBLE LOCATED HER BECAUSE HER ENCAMPMENT HAD BEEN CLEARED. THIS MAKES IT HARDER TO CONNECT THEM TO SERVICES. I HAVE AN EIGHT-PAGE DOUBLE-SIDED RESOURCE GUIDE THAT KAREN NAVARRO CREATED. I HAVE PASSED THIS TO A SUBSTATION WHO OFFERED IT TO A SANITATION CREW WHO WERE SHUFFLING PEOPLE ALONG. SANITATION DECLINED. THIS LIST SHOULD BE HANDED OUT ANYTIME SOMEONE MAKES CONTACT WITH A PERSON WHO IS UNHOUSED. I HAVE A COPY HERE NOW AND CAN E-MAIL SOFT COPIES IF ANYONE HAS USE. FINALLY, THE GOVERNOR IS BRAGGING THAT IT HAS WRITTEN OVER 11% IN THE LAST WEEKS. MORE TARGETED CRIMINALIZATION DURING THE BALLOON FIESTA, LET'S BREAK THIS CYCLE AND HELP OUR NEIGHBORS, WE NEED PLACES TO SAFELY CAMPS, TINY HOMES AN OTHER PERMANENT SHELTERS. MY FRIENDS WHO ARE UNSHELTERED HAVE ASKED FOR A PORTA POTTIY AND WATER ACCESS FOR NOW. PLEASE HELP. >> IF IT PLEASES THE CHAIR AND COUNSELORS, I'M A VALLEY RESIDENT AND ALSO A MEMBER OF CAMBIO INC., I NON-PROFIT ORGANIZATIONED ORGANIZED IN 1998, WE'RE CONCERNED WITH CULTURE, ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE, AND GRASSROOTS ORGANIZING. I'M HERE -- I WRITE ABOUT THE BILL 023-88. THE AIR QUALITY CONTROL BOARD CURRENTLY IS CONSIDERING AN ORDINANCE CALLED THE HEALTH AND ENVIRONMENTAL EQUITY IMPACT. IT APPEARS THAT SOME LARGE CORPORATIONS ARE HAVING TROUBLE WITH THE POSSIBILITY THAT CUMULATIVE IMPACT COULD BRING THEM UNDER CONSTRAINTS. I WORK WITH A LOT OF GRASSROOTS ORGANIZATIONS IN THIS COMMUNITY. AND WE ARE WATCHING THIS CLOSELY BECAUSE THIS AFFECTS ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE CONCERNING PEOPLE WHO ARE MOST IMPACTED. CONSIDERING THE CLIMATE CRISIS THAT HAS BESIEGED US, NOW IS NOT THE TIME TO START THROWING OUT GOVERNMENTAL ORGANIZATIONS THAT PROTECT OUR ENVIRONMENT. CORPORATIONS HAVE PROVEN TO US THAT THEY ARE NOT GOING TO PROTECT THE PEOPLE'S INTERESTS IN THESE MATTERS. I'M LOOKING AT THE COUNCIL BILL THAT'S BEING INTRODUCED. THERE'S A LETTER OF INTRODUCTION ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT. THE VERY FIRST WORD IS REPEALING, CONTRARY TO A PREVIOUS COMMENT. THEN ON LINE FOUR, OR THE SECOND LINE DOWN NEAR THE END, THE WORD ABOLISHING IS USED. I JUST HOPE THAT THE COMMUNITY'S INTERESTS ARE CONSIDERED AND THAT THIS BOARD TAKE THE APPROPRIATE ACTION. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> AGAIN, THE ORDINANCE DOES NOT THROW OUT AN ENVIRONMENTAL ORGANIZATION. IT DOES NOT DO THAT. IT DOES REPEAL AND REPLACE. IT REORGANIZES. IT DOES NOT ABOLISH AN ENVIRONMENTAL ORGANIZATION. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE AN AIR QUALITY BOARD. I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE BETTER, MORE EFFECTIVE, MORE REPRESENTATIVE OF THE PEOPLE OF THE CITY AND MORE PROFESSIONAL. SO THAT'S THE PROPOSAL THAT'S BEFORE US. INTERESTING THAT THIS BILL AND NEITHER THE BILL BEFORE THAT I INTRODUCED THAT WAS PASSED BY THIS COUNCIL, NEVER MADE ANY KIND OF JUDGMENT ABOUT ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE. NEVER MADE ANY JUDGMENT OR CONCLUSION ABOUT ANY OF THAT. IT WAS SIMPLY ABOUT THE ORGANIZATIONAL STRUCTURE OF THIS AIR QUALITY BOARD AND THE RULE THAT WAS BEFORE THEM AS TO HOW TO PROCEED. HOW TO PROCEED IN SUCH A WAY THAT WOULD BE RESPECTFUL OF EVERYBODY IN THE CITY, AND YET IT'S CONTINUED TO BE CHARACTERIZED BY CITY COUNSELORS TRYING TO INJECT THEIR OWN ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE. I GUESS THEIR OWN VIEWS IN SOME PRETTY STRONG WORDS THAT HAVE BEEN USED ALONG WITH THAT. AGAIN, I JUST KIND OF WANTED TO RIGHT OFF THE BAT, RIGHT AS WE'RE BEGINNING TO TALK ABOUT THIS, MAKE SOME OF THOSE STATEMENTS, BECAUSE I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE DON'T KEEP REPEATING THINGS THAT ARE NOT TRUE IN THAT REGARD. IF YOU HAVE A PUBLIC COMMENT, YOU CAN SAY WHATEVER YOU WANT, WHETHER IT'S TRUE OR NOT. >> WE'RE MOVING TO ZOOM, RIGHT? THE TWO MINUTE LIMIT APPLIES FOR ZOOM COMMENTS AS WELL. NORMALLY WE HAVE AN ELECTRONIC TIMER SO TODAY WE'LL USE MR. CORNELIUS WHO WILL PROMPTLY INTERRUPT YOU. THAT'S HIS JOB, DON'T BE MAD AT HIM. HE'S DOING IT BECAUSE I ASKED HIM TO. WILL YOU INTRODUCE OUR ZOOM SPEAKERS AND REMIND THEM WHEN THEIR TIME IS UP. >> GOOD EVENING. CAN YOU ALL HEAR ME? I'M GETTING FEEDBACK. >> WE CAN HEAR YOU. >> OKAY, MY NAME IS ALEJANDRA, I'M A COORDINATOR. I'M SPEAKING TO YOU TODAY AS A RESIDENT AND SPECIFICALLY A RESIDENT OF DISTRICT 6. HELLO, MR. PRESIDENT. I'M ACTUALLY HERE FOR THE SAME REASON THAT MANY FOLKS ARE IN THE ROOM. WE'RE ALL VERY BUSY, I'M SORRY. I'M HERE TO VOICE MY CONCERNS SPECIFICALLY ABOUT OUR OPPOSITION TO 0023-88. I THINK THAT HAS A LOT OF IMPLICATIONS TO HOW OUR GOVERNING BODIES WORK AND HOW WE DON'T STEP ON EACH OTHER'S TOES. I WAS ON A WATER PROTECTION BOARD WITH THE CITY AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT THIS BILL CAN TAKE POWERS FROM THE -- GRANTED BY THE CLEAN AIR ACT AND THE AIR QUALITY CONTROL ACT. NOT BEING ABLE TO MAKE NEW LEG LACINGS AND DIRECT THE WORK OF THE CITY AND ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH DEPARTMENT, MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS REGARDING AIR QUALITY MATTERS AND ADVICE PLANNING CALLS. SO I THINK THE PROMISE ABOUT IT REPRESENTING THE COMMUNITY BETTER AND BEING MORE PROFESSIONAL, IT SUBJECTS THE PURPOSE OF THE BOARD, WHICH IS THAT IT IS PEOPLE FROM THE COMMUNITY WEIGHING IN. I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE HAS BEEN MANY ATTEMPTS TO DISBAND THIS BOARD IN THE PAST. SO I THINK THIS IS A RED FLAG, AS A RESIDENT. BUT, YEAH, I HOPE YOU ALL TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION SOME OF THESE ISSUES WITH THE AIR QUALITY CONTROL ACT AND CLEAN AIR ACT. THANK YOU. >> MR. PRESIDENT. >> COUNCILMAN LEWIS. >> I WILL SAY AGAIN, WE ARE NOT DISBANDING THIS BOARD. I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS DISCUSSION AT THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING. WE ARE NOT DISBANDING THIS BOARD. WE ALSO SET UP THIS BOARD. THE ALBUQUERQUE CITY COUNCIL SET UP THE AFFAIR QUALITY BOARD UNDER THE STATE STATUTE, BUT THIS ORGANIZATION SET UP THE AIR QUALITY BOARD AND THE FEDERAL ENVIRONMENTAL AGENCIES GIVE US A LOT OF LEEWAY ON HOW WE CAN ALLOW THOSE BOARDS TO OPERATE. AND SO WE'RE MAKING SOME RECOMMENDATIONS ON HOW THEY SHOULD OPERATE. >> MR. CORNELIUS. >> THANK YOU, CAN YOU HEAR ME ALL RIGHT? >> WE CAN HEAR YOU, THANK YOU. >> GREAT, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY, MR. CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE. I'M A MEMBER OF THE WATER PROTECTION ADVISORY BOARD CURRENTLY AND WAS EXTREMELY CONCERNED TO READ NOT ONLY 088, BUT ALSO R176 THAT WOULD REMOVE CURRENT AIR BOARD MEMBERS, MAKE BOARD DECISIONS SUBJECT TO COUNCIL REVOCATION AND STOP ANY WORK BY THE BOARD UNTIL FEBRUARY. FIRST I WAS SHOCKED AT THE IDEA THAT THE COUNCIL WOULD SIMPLY REMOVE HIGHLY-QUALIFIED BOARD MEMBERS WHO GIVE OF OUR EXPERTISE AS VOLUNTEERS AS I AND OTHER BOARD AND COMMISSION MEMBERS DO. SECOND, THIS BOARD IS NOT JUST CREATED BY ALBUQUERQUE CITY GOVERNMENT, BUT IT'S AN ALBUQUERQUE BERNALILLO AIR QUALITY CONTROL BOARD. OUR COUNTY IS WITHIN 95% OF EXCEEDING FEDERAL SMOG STANDARDS. THE BOARD HAS URGENT WORK TO DO, INCLUDING IN NOVEMBER, IN AN ARRAY OF PUBLIC HEARINGS TO GET INTO COMPLIANCE. IF WE DON'T DO THAT, THE EPA WILL SIMPLY TAKE OVER. FINALLY, SECTION FOUR OF THE AIR QUALITY CONTROL ACT AS I'M READING THIS PROVISION SAYS THAT A CITY OF COUNTY BOARD CAN ONLY EXERCISE DELEGATED AUTHORITY UNDER THE AIR QUALITY CONTROL ACT IF IT'S FULLY EMPOWERED TO TAKE ALL THE ACTIONS THAT MED AND THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPROVEMENT BOARD OTHERWISE COULD TAKE. IF THE CITY WERE TO AMEND THE ORDINANCE TO LIMIT THE AUTHORITY OF THE BOARD, JURISDICTION WOULD REVERT BACK TO NMED. THE FACT THAT THE AIR QUALITY BOARD'S AUTHORITY IS ALSO RECOGNIZED IN SEVERAL FEDERAL REGULATIONS CREATES ADDITIONAL PROBLEMS FOR THIS PROPOSAL AS ELEMENTS OF NEW MEXICO STATE IMPLEMENTATION PLAN WOULD NO LONGER BE ADEQUATE EVEN JUST SHORT TERM UNDER FEDERAL LAW IF THE AUTHORITY WERE LIMITED. SO I ASK YOU TO RECONSIDER THIS PROPOSAL AND DO DEEP PUBLIC COMMENT AND CONSULTATION, NOT JUST WITH THE CITY, BUT THE COUNTY, THE STATE, AND THE EPA BEFORE PUTTING OUR AIR QUALITY AT RISK. THANK YOU. >> MR. PRESIDENT. >> COUNSELOR LEWIS, QUICKLY, WE CAN'T DO THAT ALL NIGHT. >> WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO, AS COUNSELORS, TO BE ABLE TO ALLOW A BOARD LIKE THIS THE ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO HELP DEVELOP POLICY AND EVERYTHING IN THIS RESOLUTION, AS WELL AS EVERYTHING IN THE ORDINANCE, WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO, IT'S WITHIN OUR PURVIEW OF THE CITY COUNCIL TO DO. AGAIN, WE SET THIS BOARD UP AND WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO AMEND IT. IF WE CAN'T AMEND IT, IF FOR SOME REASON WE AMEND IT AND THEN NOW OUR AUTHORITY IS TAKEN AWAY BECAUSE WE AMENDED IT, THAT'S ABSOLUTELY RIDICULOUS. SO, AGAIN, I WOULD ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO -- WE GOT SEVERAL WEEKS NOW BEFORE WE ACT ON THIS BILL. WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO READ THIS BILL AND READ THE ORDINANCE AND WHAT IT DOES, READ THE RESOLUTION AND WHAT IT DOES. YOU KNOW, THE RESOLUTION, I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO READ IT. IT SPECIFICALLY TALKS ABOUT CURRENT CASE LAW AND LAW BEFORE THE STATE OF NEW MEXICO AND THE CURRENT RULE THAT'S BEFORE THIS BOARD THAT'S ACTUALLY IN VIOLATION OF THEIR ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO RULE ON CERTAIN KIND OF ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE TYPE RULINGS LIKE THAT. THAT'S ACTUAL LAW IN THE STATE OF NEW MEXICO. SO WE'RE SAYING IN THIS RESOLUTION THAT YOU JUST CAN'T DO THAT. THAT'S NOT SOMETHING IN YOUR PURVIEW THAT YOU ARE ALLOWED TO DO. SO LOOKING FORWARD AGAIN TO A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE DIFFERENT OPINIONS ABOUT THIS. BUT I THINK, AGAIN, IT'S INACCURACY BECAUSE THERE'S SO MUCH IN THIS BILL. IT'S BEING ABLE TO TAKE FROM THE PUBLIC AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT'S JUST NOT ACCURATE OR JUST NOT TRUTHFUL. AGAIN THAT'S THEIR RIGHT. IN GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT, YOU CAN SHARE ANYTHING YOU WANT, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE IF THERE IS, WE ACTUALLY TALK ABOUT WHAT IS TRUE. OUR ATTORNEYS AND OTHERS WILL HAVE DISCUSSIONS THAT ALLOW US TO DO THAT. >> THANK YOU, COUNSELORS I WANT TO REMIND YOU THAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THE PUBLIC GETS THROUGH SO WE CAN GET TO OTHER AGENDA ITEMS. SO WE'LL ASK COUNSELORS HOLD COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS UNTIL WE GET TO THE END AND COUNSELORS CAN RESPOND AT THAT POINT. >> THANK YOU MR. PRESIDENT, NEXT IS MARGARET BELLE. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNSELORS, MY NAME IS MARGARET BELLE, AN ALBUQUERQUE NATIVE AND LONGTIME RESIDENT, I'M DEEPLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE FILING OF ORDINANCE 88 AND RESOLUTION 176, THESE WOULD GIVE THE BOARD THE PERMISSION TO FIRE MEMBERS, MAKE THE FUTURE BOARD'S DECISION SUBJECT TO REVOCATION BY THE CITY COUNCIL AND PROHIBIT WORK BY THE BOARD UNTIL FEBRUARY. THIS WOULD ALLOW THE CITY COUNCIL TO TAKE US BACKWARDS IN OUR EFFORTS TO IMPROVE AIR QUALITY AND PROTECT THE PUBLIC HEALTH OF THE CITIZENS OF ALBUQUERQUE AND BERNALILLO COUNTY. THIS IS NOT ACCEPTABLE. EPA DELEGATED THIS BECAUSE WE HAVE AIR QUALITY ISSUES TO ADDRESS. BERNALILLO COUNTY IS AT 95% OF THE FEDERAL SMOG LIMITS SO THE WORK DONE BY THIS BOARD IS URGENTLY NEEDED. THIS IS ESSENTIAL WORK NEEDED TO IMPROVE THE AIR QUALITY AND PROTECT PUBLIC HEALTH IN ALBUQUERQUE AND BERNALILLO COUNTY. CLEARLY THERE'S AN AGENDA WITH THESE FILINGS THAT'S NOT IN THE PUBLIC INTEREST. IT'S IN MONEY -- SOMEBODY'S INTEREST, BUT NOT THE PUBLIC. >> JUNE PARSONS FOLLOWED BY ANNE HALL. >> HONORABLE CHAIR AND COUNCIL PERSON, MY NAME IS JUNE AND I CHOSE TO RETIRE IN THIS WONDERFULLY DIVERSE AND CARING COMMUNITY FIVE YEARS AGO. I FEEL IT IS ESSENTIAL THAT EVERY DECISION-MAKER IN GOVERNMENT LOOK OUT FOR THE BEST INTEREST OF ALL OF US AND KEEP IN MIND AT ALL TIMES THAT AIR KNOWS NO BOUNDARIES, NO BORDERS. IN OUR BEAUTIFUL ALBUQUERQUE AND SURROUNDING AREA, TRANSPORTATION EMISSIONS AND ENGINE PRODUCTION ACCOUNT FOR THREE-FOURTHS OF ALL AIR POLLUTION IN NEW MEXICO AND IN OUR COUNTRY. WE CAN CONTINUE TO BE PART OF THE PROBLEM OR PART OF THE SOLUTION FOR ALL OF US. MONITORING AIR QUALITY AND TAKING ACTIONS THAT REDUCE THE EMISSION OF HARMFUL GASSES AND PARTICULATES IS ESSENTIAL FOR OUR COUNCIL AS EACH ONE OF US, OUR GRANDCHILDREN AND OUR CHILDREN DEPEND ON BREATHING GOOD QUALITY AIR. IT IS ESSENTIAL THAT THE CURRENT INDEPENDENT AND COMPOSITION OF THE AIR QUALITY CONTROL BOARD BE UNCHANGED. PLEASE PUT PEOPLE'S HEALTH BEFORE BUSINESS, OTHERWISE THE ONLY BUSINESS IN THIS AREA WILL REMAIN TAKING CARE OF SICK PEOPLE. THANK YOU. >> ANNE HALL FOLLOWED BY XAVIER. >> AT THE NEXT CITY COUNCIL MEETING YOU WILL CONSIDER R176 WHICH PROHIBITS THE ALBUQUERQUE BERNALILLO COUNTY BOARD FROM TAKING ACTION UNTIL NEXT YEAR AND 088 WHICH REMOVES BOARD MEMBERS. I BELIEVE AIR PROTECTION IS CRITICAL BECAUSE CLEAN AIR IS THE FOUNDATION TO HEALTHY PEOPLE AND COMMUNITIES. LOW INCOME COMMUNITIES SUFFER THE DEEPEST IMPACTS FROM LEGACY POLLUTION AND EMISSIONS. WE HAVE CITED AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN HIGH-COST AND HIGH-TRAFFIC AREAS THE GREATEST. IS THE POLLUTION GREATEST NEXT TO THE RIVER OR MOUNTAINS OR FREEWAYS. THE GOAL IS TO LOWER AIR POLLUTION FOR ALL PEOPLE IN THE AREA, WE SHOULD LET THEM DO THAT WORK. IT IS AN IMPORTANT, INDEPENDENT GROUP THAT IS FULLY QUALIFIED TO MAKE DECISIONS BASED ON SCIENCE. IT'S A LITTLE CONFUSING WHY COUNCIL WOULD WANT TO CHANGE THE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD WHEN THE MAJORITY OF THE CURRENTLY MEMBERS WERE ACTUALLY PROVED BY CITY COUNCIL. IT LOOKS TO ME LIKE THERE AREN'T CONCERNS ABOUT THE FUNCTION OR THE COMPOSITION OF THE BOARD BUT PERHAPS THERE IS A CONCERN ABOUT A POTENTIAL FUTURE DECISION BY THE AIR BOARD. IF YOU WILL ALLOW ME TO EXPLAIN. THE AIR BOARD IS GOING TO -- ALL IT DOES IS TO GRADUALLY INCREASE THE NUMBER OF ZERO EMISSION VEHICLES AVAILABLE FOR PURCHASE. WHEN I WENT TO PURCHASE A VEHICLE THIS YEAR, THERE WERE NO ZERO EMISSION VEHICLES AVAILABLE. THIS PUBLIC BOARD SHOULD NOT BE MODIFIED ON A WHIM BECAUSE OF THE UPCOMING RULING. I HUMBLY REQUEST THESE PROPOSALS BE WITHDRAWN. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TODAY. >> HELLO, I'M XAVIERB. I WORK DOING SOCIAL JUSTICE RESEARCH HERE LOCALLY. AIR POLLUTION IS INCREASING VIOLENT CRIME, POOR AIR QUALITY LEADS TO BEHAVIORAL HEALTH ISSUES DEPRESSION ADDICTION -- THIS IS A WAY, REALLY, TO HELP EVERY POLICE OFFICER, EVERY CITIZEN IMMEDIATELY WHEN IT COMES TO VIOLENT CRIME AND THESE TYPES OF ISSUES BECAUSE AIR QUALITY IS LINKED TO THOSE. OBVIOUSLY I'M SURPRISED IT'S EVEN WORTH CONSIDERING THE RESOLUTION IN 0-23-88. IT'S BADLY CONCEIVED. WE ALL KNOW WHAT THE STAR OF THE SHOW IS, THAT'S THE HEALTH EQUITY AND ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS REGULATION. UNLIKE THE PREVIOUS RESOLUTION SET FORTH BY COUNSELOR LEWIS, THIS HAS A STRONG DISCARD FOR THE CONSTITUTION, RULE-MAKING PROCEDURES AND LIKE FOLKS HAVE SAID ALREADY, FOLKS HAVE AGREED TO BE ON THE AIR BOARD. I'M SURPRISED IT'S BEING HEARD. WHY ARE WE NOT GOVERNING THE AIR BOARD? THE CLEAN AIR ACT GOVERNS THE AIR BOARD. IT'S UNCONSTITUTIONAL TO QUESTION THAT KIND OF AUTHORITY. THE BOARD IS HEARING THE HEALTH EQUITY AND ENVIRONMENTAL EMPACTS AND IT'S FULL OF SCIENCE AND PROOF THAT'S SWEEPING THE NATION. CALIFORNIA, THE 12TH LARGEST ECONOMY IN THE WORLD HAS A CUMULATIVE IMPACTS REGULATION. IT MAKES ECONOMIES SMARTER. IT IS ABOUT INVISIBLIZING THE REAL ISSUE IS THAT WE HAVE AIR QUALITY CONCERNS AND FOLKS TRYING TO ADDRESS THEM. THIS IS NOT HELPING WITH THAT. THIS IS IMPEDING THAT, THAT IS ANTAGIVITYIC TO THAT. IT DISCOURAGES COLLABORATION. I COULD GO OWN. THIS SHOULD BE ABOUT WHO'S POLLUTING IN OUR DISTRICTS -- >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> I WOULD PROVIDE EVERY ONE OF YOU THE DATA AND THE PROOF -- >> COUNSELOR LEWIS, BRIEFLY. >> YEAH, I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO NEXT WEEK AND BEING ABLE TO -- NEXT MEETING, BEING ABLE TO TALK ABOUT THIS ORDINANCE BECAUSE IT WAS WRITTEN BY REALLY JUST WITH THE EXPERTISE OF PEOPLE WHO KNOW THIS ORDINANCE IN AND OUT, KNOW THE FEDERAL LAW, STATE LAW, ENVIRONMENTAL LAW IN AND OUT. >> THIS IS NOT -- WE'VE DONE ENOUGH POINT OF PRIVILEGE, COUNSELOR, IF THERE'S A QUESTION, WE CAN DO THAT BUT WE'VE GOT TO MOVE ON. >> I GUESS GIVE ME ANOTHER MINUTE OF A POINT OF PRIVILEGE. AGAIN, THAT'S IT, REALLY, THE QUESTION WAS WHETHER THIS BILL IS CONSTITUTIONAL OR WHETHER IT'S APPROPRIATE OR WHETHER IT'S EVEN LAWFUL. IT IS IN EVERY WAY. AND I THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION REGARDING THAT. SO, AGAIN, YOU CAN HAVE DIFFERENT OPINIONS ABOUT IT, BUT WHETHER THIS CITY COUNCIL CAN PROPOSE CHANGES TO BOARDS THAT WE SET UP AND HOW THEY SHOULD OPERATE AND ENSURING THAT THEY'RE FOLLOWING FEDERAL LAW AND STATE LAW, I THINK THERE'S NO QUESTION ABOUT THAT WHEN IT COMES TO THIS BILL. AGAIN, MR. PRESIDENT, THERE ARE OTHER PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO COMMENT ON THIS TONIGHT AND MAKE COMMENTS THAT JUST AREN'T TRUE, THEN I THINK WE NEED -- I NEED TO HAVE THE ABILITY TO -- >> I'M GOING TO GRANT YOU THAT AT THE END OF THE COMMENTS. >> THAT'S A PART OF DEMOCRACY AND GOOD PUBLIC COMMENT. >> I'LL GIVE YOU THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT AT THE END SO WE CAN GIVE PEOPLE THEIR TIME. >> NEXT SPEAKER IS GABRIEL. >> GOOD EVENING COUNCIL, PRESIDENT DAVIS. I'M A PROFESSOR AT THE UNM SCHOOL OF LAW, I SUPERVISOR A NATURAL LAW CLINIC. I AND MY CLINICAL LAW STUDENTS REPRESENT COMMUNITY INTERVENOR IN THE COMMUNITY OF IMPACT RULE-MAKING. I'M HERE TO OFFER TECHNICAL COMMENTS IN OPTION OF THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE THAT IN COUNCILMEMBER LEWIS'S WORDS THAT WOULD MAKE IT MORE DIFFICULT TO PASS ORDINANCES. THE CLEAN AIR ACT AND STATE LAWS HAVE MADE GREAT STRIDES? REDUCING AIR POLLUTION BY EXPERTS AGREE THAT THESE LAWS HAVE FAILED TO PREVENT HARMFUL AIR POLLUTION FROM BEING SCANTED IN LOW INCOME COMMUNITIES AND COMMUNITIES OF COLOR. THE BOARD LOOKS TO PLACE MORE STRINGENT REQUIREMENTS IN NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE PEOPLE ARE ALREADY BEING HARMED. THIS REGULATION WOULD BE A MAJOR STEP IN ENSURING THAT ALL RESIDENTS ARE PROTECTED. THESE AUTHORITIES MANDATE THAT THE BOARD SHALL PREVENT AND ABATE HARMFUL EMISSIONS AS LONG AS THERE'S A POSSIBILITY THEY COULD HARM PUBLIC HEALTH BASED ON SCIENCE. THE EXISTING LAW ALREADY HAD SAFEGUARDS TO ENSURE FAIRNESS. AMONG OTHER THINGS, PETITIONERS WOULD NEED TO PRESENT SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE. OPPOSING PARTIES CAN PRESENT THEIR OWN WITNESSES. THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE WOULD MAKE IT MUCH MORE DIFFICULT TO PASS ANY CUMULATIVE IMPACTS ORDINANCE BECAUSE IT WOULD REMOVE THE REQUIREMENT THAT BOARD MEMBERS BE PEOPLE WHO HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT AND A COMMITMENT TO AIR QUALITY -- >> THANK YOU, YOUR TIME IS UP. >> IT WOULD NARROW THE TIME -- >> THANK YOU, YOUR TIME IS UP. >> ONLY EXCLUDES PEOPLE THAT HAVE AN ACTUAL ECONOMIC INTEREST -- >> OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS SOPHIA N. >> YEAH, HI, I'M A RESIDENT OF ALBUQUERQUE NEW MEXICO AND A CRIMINAL JUSTICE COORDINATOR. I HONESTLY CAN'T SAY MUCH MORE THAN OTHERS HAVE SAID, BUT WE ARE IN OPPOSITION OF ORDINANCE 88 AND 176, IS IT OKAY IF I GIVE MY TIME BACK TO THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER? >> NO, MA'AM, BUT YOU CAN FINISH YOUR COMMENTS. >> OKAY, I WANT TO ECHO WHAT EVERYONE ELSE HAS SAID. I THINK THAT THE CITY NEEDS TO PRIORITIZE ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE. AND THIS REGULATION, I THINK THE COMMUNITY HAS SAID OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN. I JUST ENCOURAGE YOU TO LISTEN TO US. THANK YOU. ESPECIALLY MY COUNSELOR BASSAN, GOOD EVENING, I'M AN ENERGY AND ENVIRONMENTAL ENGINEER AND SCIENTIST AND A VETERAN. AS A VET, I RAISE MY HAND TO PROTECT AND UPHOLD OUR CONSTITUTION, TO PROTECT YOUR RIGHTS TO LIFE, LIBERTY, AND THE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS, OUR VERY RIGHT TO EXIST IS BEING CHALLENGED BY THE FOSSIL FUEL INDUSTRY BECAUSE OF CLIMATE CHANGE. BREATHING CLEAN AIR IS A NECESSITY OF LIFE. NINETY PERCENT OF AIR POLLUTION IS FROM BURNING FOSSIL FUELS. EIGHT PERCENT OF CARBON EMISSIONS ARE FROM BURNING FOSSIL FUELS. WE ARE SENDING OUR PLANET SPIRALLING DOWNWARD, SCIENTISTS ARE APPALLED AT SEPTEMBER'S TEMPERATURES, HIGHER ALL AROUND THE WORLD IN 150 YEARS, HOTTER THAN MANY JULYS. WE MUST ADDRESS FOSSIL FUEL EMISSIONS AND OUR AIR QUALITY. THE BEST WAY TO STOP US IS TO MAKE SURE WE CHANGE OUR MEMBERSHIP IN THE MIDST OF A PROCEEDING. WE HAVE MANY DIFFERENT BILLS AND RULINGS COMING UP, SPECIFICALLY THE CUMULATIVE INPUT RULING AND CLEAN CARS AND TRUCKS RULING. SO I SUGGEST YOU REMEMBER THAT BREATHING CLEAN AIR IS A NECESSITY AND WE ALL NEED IT TO LIVE AND THRIVE. PLEASE REMEMBER THAT, MAKING YOUR DECISIONS ALONG THE WAY. THANK YOU. >> FINAL SPEAKER THIS EVENING IS JIM GARCIA. >> YEAH, THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT AND CITY CITY COUNCIL, I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE ASSOCIATED CONTRACTORS OF NEW MEXICO. I WANT TO SAY THAT THIS ORDINANCE WOULD EMPHASIZE THE BOARD OPERATES ON BEHALF OF THE CITY AND MUST ABIDE BY THE LAWS OF NEW MEXICO. IT CHANGES THE LAWS FOR REFRESH MY MEMORIES ON THE BOARD. IT CLEANS UP AND REQUIRES BOARD MEMBERS TO -- THE NEW ORDINANCE CLARIFIES THAT THE CITY'S ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH DEPARTMENT WILL PROVIDE NECESSARY SUPPORT TO THE BOARD. HOWEVER THE SUPPORT NECESSARY WILL BE DETERMINED BY THE CITY AND NOT THE BOARD ITSELF, THAT IS THE PROBLEM. IN SOME INSTANCES, THE BOARD HAS ATTEMPTED TO DIRECT ITS EMPLOYEES ON THE SCOPE OF THE EMPLOYEES AND THEIR RESPONSIBILITIES. THE ORDINANCE REQUIRES THE BOARD'S RULES BE PROVED BY THE CITY AND COUNTY ATTORNEY, CURRENTLY ONLY THE COUNTY ATTORNEY MUST APPROVE. THE ORDINANCE REQUIRES THAT PEOPLE WHO OPPOSE A RULE MUST ENGAGE IN THE COMMUNITY FIRST. REQUIRING ENGAGEMENT IMPROVES TRANSPARENCY AND ALLOWS MORE STAKEHOLDERS TO PARTICIPATE IN THE PROCESS. THIS PROVISION PROVIDES A CHECK AND A BALANCE TO THE BOARD'S AUTHORITY. COUNCIL TO THE AIR QUALITY CONTROL HAS EXPRESSED THAT THEIR INDEPENDENT AND NOT SUBJECT TO ANY CITY, COUNTY OR STATE GOVERNING AUTHORITY. THIS NEW LEGISLATION IS IMPERATIVE TO RECREATE FAIR AND IMPARTIAL PROCESSES FOR AIR QUALITY PERMITS. THANK YOU MR. PRESIDENT AND CITY COUNCIL FOR YOUR TIME TONIGHT AND THANK YOU LAWRENCE RAEL FOR ALL THAT YOU HAVE DONE FOR THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE. >> THANK YOU, WE HAVE ONE MORE. THREE MORE SIGNED UP. >> MAY I REMIND OUR USERS TO SIGN IN WITH YOUR COMPLETE NAME SO WE MAY IDENTIFY YOU. OUR FINAL SPEAKER THIS EVENLY IS PETE DOMENICI. >> MR. DOMENICI, ARE YOU STILL HERE? >> THANK YOU. THANK YOU, PRESIDENT, COUNCIL MEMBERS, I WANT TO ECHO WHAT JIM GARCIA JUST STATED. I REPRESENT A GROUP OF BUSINESSMEN THAT ARE OPPOSED TO THE HEALTH EQUITY REGULATION, THE REASON THEY'RE OPPOSED TO IT IS IT HAS NOT BEEN WELL THOUGHT OUT. WE'VE BEEN FACED WITH FOUR VERSIONS OF IT THAT EACH ARE INCONSISTENT WITH THE PRIOR ONE, THEY DON'T BUILD ON EACH OTHER. THAT PARTICULAR SET OF REGULATIONS WILL PLACE ALBUQUERQUE NEW MEXICO AT THE FOREFRONT OF EXPERIMENTING WITH ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE WITH EXTREMELY HIGH STAKES, INCLUDING THE ABILITY OF MAJOR EMPLOYERS LIKE SANDIA NATIONAL LABORATORIES TO CONTINUE TO HAVE A PREDICTABLE AIR PERMITTING PROCESS THAT ALLOWS THEM TO COMPETE FOR JOBS AROUND THIS COUNTRY. THE REGULATION ALSO IS GOING TO FORCE BUSINESS OUT OF BERNALILLO COUNTY AND INTO VALENCIA COUNTY AND ALL THE SAME INGREDIENTS WILL NEED TO BE TRUCKED, CREATING EMISSIONS ON YOUR HIGHWAYS AND TRAFFIC. THE LAST POINT I'D LIKE TO MAKE IS THE CURRENT PERMITTING OF REGULAR LAYINGS FOR THIS BOARD REQUIRE CUMULATIVE IMPACT ANALYSES FOR EVERY AIR PERMIT. AND THIS LATEST VERSION, IN FACT, DOESN'T EVEN HAVE A CUMULATIVE IMPACT ANALYSIS IN IT. SO WE -- MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ARE FACING MOVING TARGETS IN FRONT OF THIS BOARD. THE REASON THAT PEOPLE THINK THEY CAN BRING THOSE MOVING TARGETS AND STATE THINGS AND CHANGE THEM IS BECAUSE THE BOARD LACKS THE CONTROLS THAT THIS ORDINANCE AND RESOLUTION SEEK IT PUT INTO PLACE. SO I RESPECTFULLY SUPPORT COUNSELOR LEWIS'S BILL. I THINK IT PROVIDES -- >> THANK YOU. >> THAT MAKES IT MORE -- >> THANK YOU, MR. DOMENICI. >> AND WILL NOT PUT ALBUQUERQUE ON THE FOREFRONT OF RISKY -- >> THANK YOU. >> AND ALLOWING THE PUBLIC TO DEAL WITH THESE COMPLEX AND VERY CRITICAL ISSUES. >> THANK YOU. >> THAT PROCESS HAS BEEN SHORTENED DRAMATICALLY. >> THAT OUR FINAL SPEAKER? >> MR. PRESIDENT, IT IS OUR FINAL SPEAKER ON GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. >> FOLKS, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ONTO ITEMS ON YOUR AGENDA AND WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO TAKE UP OUR APPROVAL ITEMS THAT EVENING. SO I'M GOING TO CALL UP OUR APPROVAL, WHICH IS EC-23-325, WHICH THE LEASE AGREEMENT. IS THERE A SECOND? MOTION TO APPROVE. WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNSELOR BENTON. WE WILL COME BACK WHEN WE COME BACK FROM DINNER. WE WILL INTRODUCE THE BILL AND THEN LEAVE THE DISCUSSION UP TO THE COUNSELORS AND THE ADMINISTRATION. WE HAVE A NUMBER OF SPEAKERS ON THIS BUT WE'LL TAKE YOU AS YOU COME AND BY ALL MEANS, YOU HAVE YOUR TWO MINUTES AND THEN WE'LL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY. IF YOU DON'T USE IT ALL, THAT ALLOWS COUNSELORS FOR TIME FOR DISCUSSION. THIS IS A LEASE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE UNITED COMPLEK CLUB WHICH WOULD BE A TENANT ON THE ACRES OF THE BALLOON FIESTA PARK. IT ALSO INCLUDES RIGHTS RELATED TO THE USAGE OF THOSE BOTH BY THE NEW TENANT AND THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE'S USE OF THE NEW STADIUM FACILITY IF THE COUNCIL APPROVES THE LEASE. IT REQUIRES THAT THE STADIUM HAS TO BE DEVELOPED IN A WAY THAT COMPLEMENTS THE PARK. MORE IMPORTANTLY, THERE ARE BENCHMARKS HERE THAT ARE IMPORTANT FOR US TO CONSIDER. THE CITY COUNCIL OFTEN DOES LEASE AGREEMENTS, THE CITY DOES LEASE AGREEMENTS FOR OTHER PROPERTIES. THIS ONE IS MORE HIGH PROFILE. SIGNIFICANTLY, VOTERS TOLD US THEY DID NOT WANT US TO INVEST IN A PUBLICLY-FUNDED STADIUM. THIS PROCESS OR THIS PROPORTIONAL LEASE AND THE STRUCTURE HERE IN FACT WOULD BE THE INVERSE OF THAT. SO IN THIS CASE, THE TENANT IS PROPOSING TO PAY THE CITY RENT FOR THE USE OF THE FACILITY, THE INDIVIDUAL LEGISLATURES HAVE ALLOCATED A LITTLE NORTH OF $13 MILLION THAT WOULD CONNECT THE FACILITY TO EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE. THE CITY HAS NEGOTIATED THE USE OF THE FACILITY FOR OUR OWN PURPOSES AND COMMUNITY ACTIVITIES AS WELL AS REVENUE SHARING THAT WE'LL TALK ABOUT LATER IN THIS AGREEMENT. AS A REMINDER, I HAVE TO REMIND OUR PUBLIC SPEAKERS, AGAIN, THAT WE'RE ONLY ALLOWED TO SPEAK ABOUT THE LEASE AGREEMENT TERMS TONIGHT OR THAT ITEM BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL. IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK ABOUT THE SITE PLAN OR OTHER NEXT STEPS FOR ZONING, ALL THESE ARE CONTINGENT ON THE COUNCIL GIVING APPROVAL FOR THE LEASE, IN WHICH CASE THE APPLICANT WOULD HAVE TO GO TO THE EPC FOR ZONING APPROVAL. WE HAVE TO DO IT IN THOSE STEPS AND CANNOT INTERFERE WITH THAT DECISION UNTIL IT COMES BACK HERE. SO I'LL ASK YOU TO KEEP THAT GOING. FIRST SPEAKER IS MR. PETER T. CONGRATULATIONS, NICE GAME ON FRIDAY. SCORED A FEW EXTRA -- DO OR DIE, SCORED EXTRA GAMES AN IS HEADED TO SACRAMENTO. WELCOME, TELL US ABOUT THE STADIUM. >> THANK YOU, PRESIDENT DAVIS. I'M THE CEO OF NEW MEXICO UNITED. IN A COUPLE MINUTES, THIS IS WHAT I WOULD SAY. I'VE MENTIONED ALREADY, THIS IS A PUBLIC VOTE TO USE PUBLIC MONEY TO BUILD A PUBLIC STADIUM THAT WOULD SERVE UNITED AND THE COMMUNITY. THAT DIDN'T PAST. SO FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS WE'VE WORKED HARD EVERY SINGLE DAY, MANY OF THOSE DAYS WITH MR. REAL TO COME UP WITH A PLAN THAT WOULD USE PRIVATE MONEY TO BUILD A PRIVATE STADIUM THAT WOULD BE USED FOR UNITED AND ALSO SERVE OUR COMMUNITY. AND THAT IS WHAT IS BEFORE YOU. THIS LEASE IS A CATALYST TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN. WE WOULD USE SEVEN OUT OF 360 ACRES AND BALLOON FIESTA ACCOMMODATES -- TO SOMETIMES, THAT'S STATE FUNDING THAT WOULDN'T JUST WORK AND BE BENEFICIAL TO UNITED, IT WOULD SERVE ONE OF THE BEST FESTIVALS THAT EXISTS IN THE WORLD, THE INTERNATIONAL BALLOON FIESTA, BY PROVIDING BATHROOMS AND OTHER AMENITIES. IN SHORT, THIS IS A STATEMENT THAT WE CAN HAVE NICE THINGS IN NEW MEXICO, IT'S A STATEMENT THAT WE CAN BUILD AMENITIES FOR OUR YOUNG PEOPLE AND ALSO WHILE WE ADDRESS ISSUES AND CHALLENGES THAT WE'VE HEARD, MY HEART GOES OUT TO PARENTS WHO HAVE LOST LOVED ONES TO CRISES, WE CAN ALSO FOCUS ON IMPROVING THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR OUR CITY AND STATE AND THIS LEASE IS A CATALYST FOR THAT AND I WOULD ASK YOU TO APPROVE IT. THANK YOU. >> I HOPE YOU WILL BE AVAILABLE OR SOMEONE WILL BE AVAILABLE IN A FEW MINUTES. I THINK COUNCIL WILL HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE SPECIFICS. >> YES, PRESIDENT, I'LL BE HERE. >> NO, I DON'T, BUT THANK YOU. I JUST WANTED A POINT OF ORDER FOR RULES AND CLAPPING AND CHEERING ON AND EVERYTHING AFTER EVERY SPEAKER. I DON'T THINK THAT'S APPROPRIATE. >> THANK YOU WE'LL REMIND OUR AUDIENCE TO REFRAIN FROM THAT. YOU HAVE A LONG LIST. LET'S KEEP GOING. >> FOLKS IF HE CALLS YOUR NAME, COME ON DOWN AND GET IN THE ON-DECK CIRCLE HERE. >> GABE GALLEGOS. >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT DAVIS, AND DISTINGUISHED COUNCILMEMBERS. MY WIFE AND I ARE SEASON TICKET HOLDERS AND AINDIVIDUAL SUPPORTERS OF NEW MEXICO UNITED SOCCER, I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO VOTE ON IMPORTANT ISSUES LIKE LEASE AGREEMENT WITH NEW MEXICO UNITED. I LISTENED TO CITIZEN COMMENTS FOR AND AGAINST ZONING. REGARDLESS OF THEIR AGENDA, I GAVE EACH PRESENTER MY ATTENTION, MY GOAL WAS TO VOTE BASED ON WHAT I BELIEVED WAS BEST FOR THE MAJORITY OF THE CITY'S RESIDENTS THEN AND INTO THE FUTURE. AS YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT ALWAYS AN EASY TASK. TONIGHT OF THE OPPORTUNITY TO VOTE ON A LEASE AGREEMENT THAT WOULD ALLOW NEW MEXICO UNITED TO BUILD A STATEMENT TO BENEFIT NOT ONLY ALBUQUERQUE AND ITS RESIDENTS BUT ALSO THE ENTIRE STADIUM OF NEW MEXICO. I KNOW SEVERAL PEOPLE THROUGHOUT THE STATE WHO REGULARLY ATTEND NEW MEXICO UNITED HOME GAMES. THEY SPEND MONEY AT THE STADIUM, HOTELS, RESTAURANTS AND OTHER RETAILERS WHILE THEY'RE HERE. RECENTLY THE PRINCIPAL AT LAGUNA SCHOOLS BROUGHT ALMOST ONE HUNDRED STUDENTS TO WATCH A MATCH. THE BENEFITS ARE MORE THAN FINANCIAL. UNITED FANS LOVE SOCCER BUT THEY ALSO BELIEVE AND SUPPORT THE MESSAGE OF UNITY, RESPECT, AND INCLUSIVITY PROMOTED BY THE NEW MEXICO UNITED ORGANIZATION. ADDITIONALLY, IT HAS MADE ITS MARK ACROSS THE STATE OFFERING SCHOOL SUPPLIES, RESOURCES, TRAINING AND RESOURCES FOR NEW MEXICO YOUTH, WITH A FOCUS ON UNDERSERVED COMMUNITIES. A SOCCER STADIUM WILL KEEP NEW MEXICO UNITED AND ITS BENEFITS IN OUR STATE WELL INTO THE FUTURE. THERE'S SO MUCH MORE TO SAY IN SUPPORT BUT I RECOMMEND YOU VOTE YES FOR THE LEASE AGREEMENT AND FOR NEW MEXICO'S FUTURE. >> MR. CORNELIUS. >> OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS RACHEL JAMES. >> ARE YOU RACHEL? >> HI, I'M A SIXTH GRADER THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO TIME TO TALK TO YOU TONIGHT ABOUT SOMETHING THAT MEANS THE WORLD TO ME AND MY FAMILY. A STADIUM FOR NEW MEXICO UNITED. UNITED HAS MEANT SO MUCH TO ME AND GIVEN ME SO MANY POSITIVE ROLE MODELS AND THEY DO SO MUCH FOR KIDS AND FAMILIES IN THIS STATE. I'VE TRAVELED WITH THE TEAM TO OTHER TOWNS AND SCHOOLS AND HAVE SEEN PLAYERS AND STAFF SPEND TIME WITH KIDS TO TEACH SOCCER TO THEM, GIVE OUT BACKPACKS FULL OF SUPPLIES, AND GIVE COMMUNITIES SOMETHING TO LOOK FORWARD TO. MANY PLAYERS HAVE BECOME IMPORTANT TO ME LIKE SANTIMOR, HE CAME TO MY SCHOOL AND MADE ALL THE KIDS EXCITED AND HAPPY. UNITED NEEDS A STADIUM SO ALBUQUERQUE HAS SOMETHING TO BE PROUD OF AND A PLACE FOR FAMILIES TO GATHER. IT'S ABOUT BELIEVING IN SOMETHING THAT'S BIGGER THAN OURSELVES. WITHOUT A STADIUM, THERE'S NO UNITED AND THAT WOULD CHANGE MY LIFE FOR THE WORST. THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> HI, MY NAME IS JAKE G. I STAND BEFORE YOU TODAY TO CONVEY MY SUPPORT FOR THE PROPOSED LEASE AGREEMENT THAT WITH A ALLOW NEW MEXICO UNITED TO BUILD A STADIUM AT THE PARK. MY LIFELONG INTEREST LIES WITH OUR CITY AND STATE FIRST AND I'M EXCITED AT THE PROSPECT AT THIS VENUE COMING TO FRUITION HERE IN ALBUQUERQUE. LIKE EVERYONE IN THIS ROOM I'VE HAD THE PLEASURE OF ATTENDING BALLOON FIESTA AT THE PARK. WE'RE FORTUNATE TO BUILD ON THE RICH HISTORY OF THE BALLOON FIESTA AND TO ATTRACT HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF VISITORS TO NEW MEXICO, PEOPLE WHO WILL STAY IN OUR HOTELS AND GO HOME AND SHARE STORIES OF THEIR TIME IN OUR BEAUTIFUL CITY WITH THEIR FRIENDS AND FAMILY. IT MAKES GREAT SENSE, THEN, FOR THE CITY TO BUILD ON THAT AND LEASE A PORTION OF THE LAND TO THE TEAM, ALLOW THEM TO BUILD THE PRIVATELY FUNDED VENUE AND PROVIDE ANOTHER TOP-CLASS ENTERTAINMENT OPTION THAT WILL GENERATE REVENUE FOR THE CITY AND NOT PLACE A FINANCIAL BURDEN ON ITS CITIZENS. THE CITY CAN GIVE THE STADIUM THAT WILL INCORPORATE WIND, LIGHTS, SHAPE, AND BE DONE IN AN UNDERUTILIZED PORTION OF THE PARK THAT IS NONINVASIVE TO BALLOON FIESTA. OF COURSE THERE ARE CHALLENGES AND I'M PLEASED TO HAVE READ THE STUDY THAT ADDRESS QUESTIONS AND THAT THERE WILL BE A NET GAIN IN AVAILABLE PARKING. BUT WE'LL FACE CHALLENGES AND I'M HOPEFUL WE ARE THE CITY THAT WILL STAND AND EMBRACE THOSE. I'LL CLOSE BY SAYING THIS, LIKE PETE SAID, WE DESERVE NICE THINGS. I'M THANKFUL FOR EVERYONE WORK TO BRING THIS TO US AND TO NEW MEXICANS WHO WILL TRAVEL. >> GOOD EVENING CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS AND EVERYONE WHO'S HERE. WHAT I WANT TO SAY TONIGHT IS HOW MUCH NEW MEXICO UNITED HAS MEANT TO ME AND MY FAMILY. I STARTED COMING TO THE GAMES IN 2019 WITH THE INAUGURAL SEASON AND I'VE LIVED IN ALBUQUERQUE ABOUT FOUR YEARS AT THE TIME. WHAT IT PROVIDED TO ME WAS A PLACE TO FIND PEOPLE THAT I COULD CONNECT WITH, A FAMILY, HERE IN NEW MEXICO. IT'S JUST GROWN. I'VE GOTTEN TO KNOW SO MANY PEOPLE. SO MANY PEOPLE HAVE BEEN THERE FOR ME THROUGH THESE CONNECTIONS, THROUGH UNITED OVER THE LAST COUPLE YEARS. BOTH OF MY PARENTS HAVE PASSED AWAY AND MY UNITED FAMILY WERE THE ONES THERE FOR ME. THEY'VE BEEN THERE FOR ME, THE GOOD AND THE BAD. THAT'S MADE ME FEEL HERE AT HOME. I'VE FOUND A PLACE THAT I BELONG. SO I ASK THAT YOU GUYS VOTE YES TO THE LEASE AGREEMENT FOR NEW MEXICO UNITED SO THEY HAVE A HOME. THIS TEAM CAN PROVIDE AN AMAZING OPPORTUNITY FOR THE TEAM, FOR THE FANS, FOR THE PLAYERS, FOR PEOPLE COMING INTO TOWN. EXPERTS KNOW MORE ABOUT THE ECONOMICS BUT I'D JUST LIKE TO TELL YOU HOW MUCH IT CAN PROVIDE FOR THOSE IN THIS COMMUNITY, FOR THOSE LOOKING FOR A PLACE WHERE THEY BELONG. SO I ASK YOU THAT VOTE YES TO PROVIDE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO GROW THIS COMMUNITY WHERE WE CAN HAVE A PLACE WHERE WE CAN ENJOY GAMES AND EACH OTHER'S COMPANY AND JUST ENJOY WHAT IS BEAUTIFUL ABOUT NEW MEXICO AND ALBUQUERQUE AND UNITED. THANK YOU. >> JULES MEYERS. >> HELLO, I'M A BORN AND RAISED NEW MEXICAN. THREE YEARS AGO I WAS LOOKING TO BREAK INTO THE PROFESSIONAL SPORTS INDUSTRY AND WAS READY TO TO MOVE OUTSIDE THE STATE TO MAKE MY DREAM OF WORK IN SPORTS A REALITY. I CAME ACROSS THE ESTAMOSUNI -- EVER SINCE. ON FRIDA -- THIS TYPE OF OPPORTUNITY BEING AVAILABLE IN MY HOME STATE. LIKE I SAID, I WAS READY TO MOVE OUT OF NEW MEXICO TO FIND THIS OPPORTUNITY. THIS IS A COMMON THEME, THAT THERE ARE NOT ENOUGH OPPORTUNITIES IN OUR STATE TO KEEP US HERE. NEW MEXICO UNITED IS CHANGING THAT NARRATIVE EVERY DAY. TOMORROW I'LL BE VISITING AN ELEMENTARY AND IT WILL HAVE 5,000 STUDENTS PARTICIPATING THIS YEAR ALONE. GROWING UP IN RIO RANCHO, I NEVER HAD A PROFESSIONAL ATHLETE VISIT MY SCHOOL. THERE WERE NO TEAMS TO BRING PLAYERS TO VISIT AND VERY LITTLE REPRESENTATION. I WONDER HOW DIFFERENT LIFE COULD HAVE BEEN FOR MOOIZ AND MY STUDENTS IF WE HAD THAT REPRESENTATION FROM A YOUNG AGE. NEW MEXICO UNITED IS CREATING ACCESS FOR ATHLETES EVERY DAY FOR FULLY-FUNDED TEAMS, NEW MEXICO UNITED IS KEEPING NEW MEXICAN AS RIGHT HERE. THIS IS A RESOURCE TO MAKE SURE THAT NEW MEXICANS CONTINUE TO SEE THEIR HOME AS A LAND OF OPPORTUNITY AND GROWTH. THIS STADIUM PROVIDES A DEDICATED HOME FOR ALL NEW MEXICANS TO BELIEVE IN THEMSELVES, THEIR TEAMS AND THEIR STATE. NEW MEXICO IS THE BEST VERSION OF ITS WHEN WE ARE UNITED. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND FOR VOTING YES FOR THE FUTURE OF NEW MEXICO. >> JASON HARRINGTON. >> HE'LL BE ON ZOOM. >> MR. PRESIDENT, MADAM VICE PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. AS STATED, I'M THE PRESIDENT OF ONE OF OUR SUPPORTERS GROUPS ALONG WITH MR. ANTHONY, WHO IS MY VICE PRESIDENT. I'VE LIVED IN COUNSELOR PENA'S DISTRICT AND I MOVED TO COUNSELOR SANCHEZ'S DISTRICT AND NOW I'M IN COUNSELOR LEWIS'S DISTRICT BUT I ALSO LIVE ON CAMPUS SO I'M IN COUNSELOR DAVIS'S DISTRICT AS WELL. I'M ALL OVER THE PLACE HERE. IN EACH DISTRICT, I'VE SEEN THE SAME THING, I'VE SEEN THE NEED FOR THIS STADIUM IN ONE FORM OR ANOTHER. THE MULTI-PURPOSE FACILITY WOULD BE THAT PLACE FOR US TO CELEBRATE EACH AND EVERY NEW MEXICAN YEARROUND AND JUST IN TIME FOR THE BIG SOCCER BOOM THAT'S EXPECTED WITH THE WORLD CUP. NOT ONLY WILL THIS FACILITY ADD ROOM TO WATCH OUR BELOVED TEAM GROW BS IT WILL MAKE IMPROVEMENTS TO BALLOON FIESTA PARK THAT ARE MUCH NEEDED. PORTA POTTIYS WOULD BE IMPROFITED WITH A NEW BALLPARK AND AS WELL AS AMAZING VENDORS WHO PROVIDE DONUTS AND BURRITORS. THEY WOULD FINALLY HAVE PROPERTY ELECTRICITY. BALLOON FIESTA PARK SHOULD BE UPDATED AND THE BALLPARK WOULD BE A STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECT. COUNSELORS, I ASK THAT YOU PLEASE THINK OF THE IMPROVEMENTS NOT ONLY FOR THE TEAM BUT FOR BALLOON FIESTA AS A ENTITY ITSELF AS WE MOVE FORWARD. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND THANKS TO MR. REAL AND HIS CONTINUED SUPPORT IN HELPING MAKE NEW MEXICO GREAT. I APPRECIATE YOU, MR. REAL. >> BOTH OF THESE ARE GOING TO BE ON ZOOM. >> I WILL KEEP AN EYE OUT FOR THEM. >> OH, NO, HE IS HERE, SORRY. >> THANK YOU GUYS FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE TODAY. I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THIS BEAUTIFUL OPPORTUNITY WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING TRULY SPECIAL FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND STATE. YOU MAY OR MAY NOT KNOW I WAS BORN AND RAISED IN NEW MEXICO AND I PLAYED PROFESSIONALLY FOR TEN YEARS. WHEN I WAS GROWING UP, THERE WERE NO PROFESSIONAL TEAMS HERE. THAT'S WHAT I ASPIRED TO GET TO, THAT WAS MY DREAM. I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO WATCH PROFESSIONALS WEEK IN AND WEEK OUT. THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT SEEMED UNATTAINABLE. IT WASN'T UNTIL I WAS OLDER THAT I FELT LIKE A PROFESSIONAL CAREER WAS SOMETHING I COULD ACHIEVE. I CAN ONLY IMAGINE WHAT I COULD HAVE ACCOMPLISHED IN MY CAREER HAD THIS BEEN HERE WHEN I WAS GROWING UP. THESE KIDS TODAY HAVE RESOURCES THAT I COULD ONLY DREAM ABOUT. THEY HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO WATCH PROFESSIONALS EVERY WEEK. THEY HAVE THE ACADEMY SYSTEM, WHICH IS AT NO CHARGE TO THEIR FAMILIES. THE REALITY IS, MOST OF THEM WILL NOT BE PROFESSIONAL ATHLETES, BUT THEY WILL GAIN INVALUABLE EXPERIENCES AND BECOME BETTER HUMAN BEINGS AND HAVE EVERY OPPORTUNITY TO ADVANCE AND BETTER THEMSELVES. I THINK THAT NEW MEXICO UNITED IS ABOUT COMMUNITY AND FAMILIES. WHEN I PLAY AND LOOK IN THE STANDS AND SEE THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE LIKE ME, WHO CAME FROM WHERE I CAME FROM, THERE'S NOTHING LIKE IT. I SEE THOUSANDS OF KIDS JUST LIKE I WAS. THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO DREAM BIG BECAUSE ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE IF THEY WANT IT BAD ENOUGH. THIS STADIUM IS MORE THAN FOOTBALL. IT'S ABOUT GIVING NEW MEXICANS THE OPPORTUNITY TO DREAM AND FOLLOW THEIR DREAMS. I'M TIRED OF HEARING THAT NEW MEXICANS ARE UNDERDOGS. LET'S FLIP THE SCRIPT AND SET THE STANDARD FOR OTHERS TO ASPIRE TO. WE'RE A PROUD PEOPLE AND THIS TEAM IS A REPRESENTATION OF WHO WE ARE. >> THANKS, WE MISS SEEING YOUR PLAYING, BUT GREAT TO SEE YOU IN THE STANDS. THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> NEXT IS ANDY H. FOLLOWED BY MICHAEL L. >> I COME BEFORE YOU. I WAS FIGHTING A MASSIVE STAPH INFECTION GIVEN TO ME BY A LOCAL HOSPITAL. I COULD BARELY GET UP THE STAIRS. I WAS WEARING AN ANTIBIOTIC INTRAVENOUS PACK THAT I HAD TO WEAR FOR EIGHT WEEKS. SO WHEN NEW MEXICO UNITED WAS INCLUSIVE. THEY DID NOT QUESTION MY ABILITY TO WALK OR TALK. I GUESS THAT'S WHY I GOT THE GIG. I'D LIKE TO TALK ON THE FOUNDATION AND WHAT THEY DO FOR THE COMMUNITY. I'VE HAD FIRSTHAND EXPERIENCE OF THE ACADEMY KIDS GROWING UP AND COMING IN, BUT ALSO AS A DISABLED PERSON, I'M ONLY NOW ABLE TO MAKE SOME CLOCKS WHICH I'M ABLE TO SELL. THEY HAVE OFFERED TO SELL MY CUSTOM-MADE CLOCKS IN THEIR SHOP. A GREAT BENEFIT TO SOMEONE LIKE ME. BUT I'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT FAMILY AND FRIENDS, THE COMMUNITY THAT NEW MEXICO UNITED HAS EMBEDDED. I HAVE SEASON TICKETS AND I WASN'T ABLE TO GO TO THE LOUISVILLE GAME, AND WHEN I KNEW MY FAMILY WEREN'T GOING TO ATTEND A OFFERED A FAMILY MY TICKET. THEY ACCEPTED BUT I ALSO ASKED ABOUT THE FAMILY, THEIR CHILDREN AND WHAT THEIR SITUATION WAS. I SENT AN E-MAIL TO THE DIRECTOR OF COMMUNICATIONS AND FAN EXPERIENCE AT NEW MEXICO UNITED ASKING FOR PERMISSION TO GET A COUPLE OF SIGNATURES FROM PLAYERS FOR THE KIDS OF THE FAMILY. HIS REPLY WAS WE CAN DO BETTER THAN THAT, WE'LL INVITE THEM DOWN TO THE FIELD TO MEET THE PLAYERS AND GET THE AUTOGRAPHS THEMSELVES. THAT SHOWS WHAT THE COMMUNITY IS. THIS IS A FAMILY AND A FAMILY IS WHAT THIS COMMUNITY NEEDS THE MOST. THANK YOU. >> MICHAEL LEWIS FOLLOWED BY CHARLES RUMBA. >> MR. LEWIS IS ON ZOOM. >> CHARLES RUMBA FOLLOWED BY ROB DURHAM. >> TIM SPEARS FOLLOWED BY ANDRA KISKAIDEN. WE HAVE GRIFN IN ZOOM, MY APOLOGIES. >> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT, MADAM VICERESIDENT AND OTHER COUNCILMEMBERS FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO YOU ABOUT SOMETHING NEAR AND DEAR TO MY HEART. I WANTO SHARE MY SUPPORT FOR THE ADIUM LEASE BY TELLING YOU HOW THE TEAM HAS IMPACTED MY LIFE I'VE BEEN AN AINVIDUAL FAN SINCE 2018. I'M A THIRD GENERATIOBURQUENA I'VE STRUGGLED WIT FINDING A SENSE OF COMMUNITY IN ALBUQUERQUE. I LEFT AN ABUSIVE MARRIAGE IN 20 AND FOUNDMYSELF STARTIN OVER WITH NO FRIENDS AND AN OVERWHELNG SENSE OF ISOLATIO I BEGAN ATTENDI UNITE GAMES IN AN FORT TO FIGHT THIS ISOLATN AND SUPPORT MY RECOVERY IA CITY WH A FOCUS OF MENTAL HETH. I QUICKLY DEVELOPED A FEND GROUP OF FELLOW SOCCE FANSND KNEW NO MATTER I ALONE I FELT, I WOULD BE APART OF SOMETNG BIGGER THAN MYSELF AT E HOME GAME. PARTICITED IN ENTS AND GOT TO KNOW E PLAYERS, AFF, AND MANAGEMENT. IT WAS CLEAR TT THIS WASN'T JUST A TAG LI. THIS IJUST MY OWN PEON EXAMPL TH IMPT THAT UNID HAS HAD ON NEW MEXICD THE CITY OF BUERQUE IS HARD TO OVERSTATE. IT'S CREAT A FAMIL FOR COUNTLESS FAVIDED INCLUSIVE AND POSITIVE CMUTY ENGED ACTIVITIESOR ALL NEW MECANS AND GEN THE PEOPLE OF ALBUQUERE SOMETHING TO BE PROUD OF IT E CREATION OTHE STADIUM WOD GIVE US A HOME T CL OUR OWN AND PROVIDE A SA SPACE TO GATHER. I HE THAT MYSELF AND MY UNID FAMILY CAN COUNT O YOU VOTE TO PROVE THETAUMLEASE. THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> NEXT SPEAKERN MYIST MARGARET SAORD. OSE OF YOUN ZOOM WHO ARE NOT WITH USCOULD U PLEASE RAISE YO HANSO IAN SEE TT YOU' IN THERE AND WEAN DO OUR ZOOMOMMENTS ARUR IN-HOU? ANK U VERY MUCH. MARGARETANRD. >> PRESIDE DAVISND COUNSELORS UERHE LEASE, TY MON WILBE SPE O THIS OJT OVER I POSBLY 60-YEATERM TICL 1SHE CYHALL BE RESPONSIBLEOR RAIRS AND MAINTENANC OF ALL COMPONENTS AT ARE REQUIRETO B OPE T THE PUBL. .02, THE CITY' ADDITIOL OBLIGATION THE CITY AGREES TO CRTE AND MAINTA A PUBLIC COMM AREA OHREE S OF THE SDIUM, LHTING ON THE EAST EDGES AND T PVIDE LITING, CRTE NDSCAPE, CRTE SHADE AREASNDUBLIC RESTROOMS, INCDING THE ENTRCE TO THETADIUM AND COMPLETE ANY INFRASTCTURE NEEDS A AGREE T BY THE PAIES. W, T REASON FOR-HAT'S TAXPAY MONEYT'S GIVEN TO THEITY THAT MIGHTETTER B USED FOROTHER PURPOS MEANWHE WHILE CITY IS HANDLING ALTHIS, THE LEASE STAS THAT UN WILPA LS TH $3,000 A MTH FOR RENT. TH LEASE DOES NOTPECIFY W PAYS I THEONSTRUCTN EXCEE THE ESTATE. OVER, CONARYO PO THEY ARE N REQUIRE TO USE LOL LABOR ONLY TT ITILL ENDEOR THIRE LOCAL COMPIES. THE LEASE ILUDE SO NY BIOUSEQUIMENT AD UNDEFINED TERMS THAT ARTHE MAKING OF FUTURE SSES. THE CIT ALSO DLARE TT IF IS PJECT IS NOT PROVED, THE PROPERTYIL NOT BE LEASED. WELL, WHY NOT? OTHERRIVATE ENTITIES BE GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITYO EXPRESS INTERES IN LSING THIS PRTY ANDEVELING SOMEING? OVALTHE LEA SEEMS LIKE A SWEETHEART DEAL THAT WILL BENEFIT PRIVATE OWNERS AND I URGE YOU TO VOTEGAINST IT. THANK YOU. >> RICH BLUMENLD >> PRESIDENT DAVISND COUNCIL, THE MAYOR CONDES CRIME AND HOMELESSSS A OURBIGGEST OBLEMS BUT H SAYS WEEED THIS LEASE F QLITYF LI. SPENDING TAXROLLARS TO FIGHT CRIME WOUO MORE TH THAT LSE. ATEAST TWO-THIRDS OF TH PELE REJECTED THESE BONDS. THINFRASTRUCTURE WILL LIKELY INTERFERE WITH THE 2024ND 25 BALLN FIESTAS. W MUCH WILL UPKP OF THE INASUCTURE ST? WE CURRELY PAY ABOUT $2 MILLION A YEAR FOR UPKEEP. LEASE WILL SAVE THE CIT 50,000 EACHIME ISOTOPES PARK ISONVERTED BUT THE CY WILL BE SPENDING MILLION O UNED THESE E TAXPAYERFUNDS. BEFOREHESE FUNDS ARE MMITTED, POTENAL VIOLAONS OF THE STATE TI-DONATION CLAUSE MUST BE INVESTIGAT. KEWISE, MR. T. SIT ON THE BOARD OF FINANCE, HER HUSBAND TOLD ME TO MY FACE TT H WIFE, QUOTE, TRIES TO HELPUS. POSSIBLE CONFLICTSFNTEREST SHOULD BE INVGATED BEFORE THE LASE IS SIGNED, JUST LAST YEAR, THE STE ETHICS COMMISSION HAD A PROBLEM WITH MRS. T. FINCI DISCLOSURE STEMENT. WHAT IF THE LEAGUE FOLDS? WE HAD -- LA HAD NO PROFESSIONAL -- PEOPLE WILL NOT COME AND GO IF WE DON'T HAVE A MINOR LEAGUE SOCCER TEAM. IRGE YOU TO VOTE NO ON THIS LEASE OR AT LEAST ALLOW MORE TIME FOR IT TO GET FUL ANALYSIS AND THE PLIC'S FULL INPUT. THANK YOU. >> JAMES FREEMAN. >> GOOD EVENING, I'LL GO FAST THIS TIME. I'LL COSIGN WHAT MR. B. SAID. 35,000 DOLLARS A YEAR IS NOT A GOOD DEAL FOR THE CI. I DON'T KNOW ALL THAT STUFF THEY KNEW, BUT I DON'T SUPPORT THIS. THANK YOU. >> GARYARVEY FOLLOWED BY GREG WILLMAN. >> MR. PRESIDENT AND COUNSELORS, I FIRST WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT I'M NOT AGAINST SOCCER OR BALLOON FIESTA. IT'S THE BIGGEST MONEY-MAKER IN OUR STATE. I DON'T UNDERSTAND TAKING AWAY SEVEN ACRES OF PARKING TO BALLOON FIESTA WHEN WE JUST HAD PEOPLE BEING TURNED AWAY FROM THE PARK AFTER WAITING THREE HOURS TO GET THERE BECAUSE THERE WASN'T SUFFICIENT PARKING. I LIVE IN THE WILDFIRE NEIGHBORHOOD, I'VE BEEN THERE OVER 30 YEARS AND MANY OTHER NEIGHBORS AND WE WERE UNAWARE OF THIS. OUR FIRST CONCERN IS THAT NOBODY WAS CONTACTED REGARDING THIS PROPOSAL AS WE'VE BEEN IN THE PAST. WE'VE NOT SEEN ANY IMPACT STUDIES ON BUILDING THE STADIUM IN THIS AREA. EXAMPLE IS TRAFFIC AT PEAK HOURS ON ALAMEDA, ACCOMMODATION OF APPROXIMATELY 9,500 SPECTATORS FOR GAMES. AS PER THEIR WEBSITE ATTENDANCE. TRAFFIC WILL BE OUT OF CONTROL WITH THE NUMBER OF VEHICLES BROUGHT TO THIS AREA ESPECIALLY AFTER RUSH HOUR AND AFTER GAMES. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . >> I PERSONALLY DROVE THROUGH JEFFERSON LAGUNA POLICE, AND WILDFLOWER, THE AREA WALKING THROUGH THAT IS ONLY AVAILABLE CARVE ON OCCASION, THERE WERE SOME FOLKS WITH PUBLIC SAFETY WHO DID GO THROUGH THAT AREA BUT IT WAS NOT OPEN TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC. THERE WERE SOMEPU FOLKS WHO WALD ALONG THE SIDEWALK THROUGH THE PARK. >> CAN I RESPOND IT THAT, PLEASE? >> LET'S TAKEPL THAT SIDE BAR AD LET YOU ALL HAVE THAT DISCUSSION SON WE CAN STAY ON POINT ON THE BILL. BUT IF YOU WANT TO STAY FOR THE BREAK, WHICH IS AFTER THIS BILL, I'M SURE YOU CAN DISCUSS IT. >> I'VE HEARD FROM YOU BEFORE. IF YOU WANTOR TO E-MAIL ME, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO TALK ABOUT IT, BECAUSE I WAS TOLD IT WAS BLOCKED OFF. SO IOF WOULD BE HAPPY TO HEAR FM YOU, TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. >> MR. LOGMAN, FOLLOWED BY MR. HOUSER. >> MR. HOUSER, COME ON BACK. THANKS FOR BEING PATIENT. >> YES. GOOD EVENING, PRESIDENT DAVIS N COUNCIL MEMBERS. MY NAMEER IS PAT HOUSER. I LIVE VERY CLOSE TO THE STADIUM UNDER CONSIDERATION VIA THE PROPOSED LEASE AGREEMENT. AS TAX PAYING CITIZEN, I FOLLOWING DISCUSSIONS WERE OUT LINED BY THE CURRENT LEASE AGREEMENT AND LOCATION ARE A BAD IDEA FOR A MULTITUDE OF FACTS. IT LOOKS LIKE A SKUNK, AND SMELLS LIKE A SKUNK, IT PROBABLY IS IT ARO SKUNK. THE PROPOSED LEASE AGREEMENT AND LOCATION APPEAR TO VIOLATE THE STATE OF NEW MEXICO ANTIDONATIONS CLAUSE, ARTICLE 9, SECTION 14 OF THE CONSTITUTION EVER NEW MEXICO, WHICH STATES: NEITHER A STATE, COUNSEL FIX OR SCHOOL DISTRICT, OR MUNICIPALITY, SHALL DIRECTLY OR INDIRECTLY BREAK A DONATIONS IN AIDS OF A PERSON, ASSOCIATION, A PUBLIC OR PRIVATE CORPORATION. OVER THERA YEARS, EACH OF US HAE HAD GOOD AND BAD GOVERNMENT EXPERIENCES. THE BALLOON PARK INITIATIVE HAS BEEN BAD GOVERNMENT FROM THE ON SEPTEMBER COMPLETE DESTROY LAYINGS OF PEOPLE, PROCESS AND PROCEDURE. WE HEARD IF WILDFIRE WEREN'T NOTIFIED. OURTI NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS WERE NOT NOTIFIED. THE PAST ADMINISTRATION HAS BEEN AT THE FOREFRONT OF BUILDING A SOCCER STADIUM WITH PUBLIC FICHEDDING. VARIOUS PORTIONINGS OF THE CURRENT LEASE AGREEMENT, THE CITY AGREES TO SUPPORT AND HELP SECURE INDUSTRIAL REVENUE BONDS FOR THE STADIUM. I ONLY HAVE 30 SECONDS, BUT THE FACT THAT THERE IS A CITY ORDINANCE 10-10-1, THE COMMISSION IS POSE TODAY PROVIDE RELATIONS FOR LONG AND SHORT-TERM LOWSES AND IMPROVEMENTS AT THE PARK, NONE OF THISE HAS BEEN DONE. IT IS CLEARLY OBVIOUS THE BALLOON T FIESTA PARK COMMISSION HAS BEEN COMPROMISED. 10-10-3 OUTLINES THE DEFINITIONS. THE PARKS AND RECREATION STAFF DON'T SEE A NEED FOR BROAD COMMUNITY SUPPORT AND INVOLVEMENT. IF THIS STAYED SUM A GREAT PROJECT, IT SHOULD BE ABLE TO WHETHER STAKEHOLDERS COMMENTS. THANK YOU. >> WEWE HAVE A BERT JORDI, FOLLOWED BY JACOB SPENCER. JACOBNC SPENCER, FOLLOWED BY STE TAYLOR. >> GOOD EVENING, CITY COUNCILORS, PRESIDENT DAVIS. LADIES AND D GENTLEMEN. ITL AM FROM INDIANA, AND I HAVE BEEN IN ALBUQUERQUE, NEW MEXICO, FOR 14 YEARS. I Y AM A HUGE SOCCER FAN OF THIS BILL STATE. I COME BEFORE YOU GUYS BECAUSE I THINK THIS STADIUM WILL BE EXTREMELY AWESOME.. IT WILL GIVE THE STATE OF NEWF MEXICO SOMETHING TO CHEER ABOUT AND SOMETHING FOR KIDS, FAMILIES, AND PEOPLE OUT OF TOWN, WE ARE TALKING LIKE, LET'S SAY, MEXICO, OR SPAIN, OR ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO COUPLE OUT AND SEE A GAME LIKE THIS. SO I THINK THAT WE SHOULD DEFINITELY BUILD THIS STADIUM, BECAUSE I LOVE THIS TEAM SO MUCH. AND WHEN WE DO HAVE A HOME GAME, I'M ALWAYS NOTICE SUPPORTERS SECTION. EVERY TIME THEY SCORE A GOAL, YOU GUYS LOVE THIS. I ALWAYS POUR WATER ON MY SEPTEMBER IT IS A GREAT THING I LIKE TO DO FOR THIS TEAM. I HAVE TOTAL RESPECT FOR THE OWNER,'S WONDERFUL GENTLEMAN. HE HAS DONE SO MUCH FOR THIS COMMUNITY. EVERYBODY AT THIS TABLE, THIS IS GOING TO BE AWESOME IF WE BUILD THIS STADIUM, WE WILL ALWAYS A SUPPORT NEWLW MEXICO. AND LIKE THE FIELDS OF DREAMS, IF YOU BUILD IT WE WILL COME. C SOMOS UNIDOS, WE LOVE YOU. THANK YOU. >> I'M STEVE STALE LOWER. I L HAVE SOME ISSUES WITH THE LEASE AS WRITTEN. NOT THAT I DON'T WANT THE THING TO HAPPEN, BY AT ANY RATE, FROM THE STANDPOINT OF UNITED, THIS IS A SWEETHEARTS DEAL. THERE IS # THIS LEASE EVER FILL OF ASSUMPTIONS AND AMBIGUITIES. FIRSTUI OFF, ENHANCE ITS BALLOON FIESTA EXPERIENCE FOR THELO PUBLIC. WHAT EXACTLY DOES THAT MONEY? PUT UP A BANNER, AND THAT'S ENHANCE BEING THE EXPERIENCE? WHAT EXACTLY AM I GIVING BACK TO IT? CITY INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS TO BALLOON IF I TEST AT THAT PARK, AND IT WILL PAY $35,000 ANNUALLY. IN ARREARS, WHEN DO YOU HAVE A LEASE THAT SOMEBODY IS ABLE TO USE THE PROPERTY FOR AN ENTIRE YEAR BEFORE YOU HAVE TO PAY THE RENT? NOTHING THAT I'M EVER AWARE OF. THAT'S RIDICULOUS. $1416 AN ACRE IS ALL THAT APARTMENTS TO. YOU COULD NEVER FIND THAT A MONTH. IT WOULDN'T HAPPEN. UNLESS YOU'RE OUT IN BERNALILLO COUNTY SOMEWHERE AWAY FROM THE CITY. THE AND YOU'LL INCREASE IS TWO PERCENT. TWO PERCENT DOES NOT EVEN KEEP UP WITH THE INFLATION OR THE COST OF LIVING. I LOOKED BACK AND OVER THE LAST 50 YEARS, THE AVERAGE INCREASE WAS FOUR PERCENT. WHAT ISER THE ROLE OF THE IRB IN FINANCING THE STADIUM? FURTHER MORE, THE PREVIOUS BOND ISSUE WAS FOR $50 MILLION FOR AN $80 MILLION STADIUM. NOW IS 0 MILLION-DOLLAR ADEQUATE -- $30 MILLION ADEQUATE TO DO THE STADIUM IN CURRENTLY TONIGHT I HEARD IT IS 10,000. WE ARE BUILDING A STADIUM THAT IS OBSOLETE BEFORE IT IS EVEN CONSTRUCTED. AND PUBLIC USE FOR ONLY TEN DAYS. IF I USE IT FOR BALLOON FIESTA, NINE DAYS,IE THAT LEAVES ME WITH ONE. HOW ABOUT SIXTY DAYS. YOU'RE TAKING CARE OF ALL THE REST OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND THE MAINTENANCE, AND YOU ALL ONLY GET TEN DAYS, THAT'S RIDICULOUS. AT ANY RATE, ICU URGE YOU TO VET IT DOWN UNTIL YOU CAN CAN AMEND IT AND CORRECT SOME OF THESE EE GREESH US THINGS IN THE PA -- EGREGIOUS THINGS IN THE PACK. >> WE WILL KNOW SHIFT TO ZOOM. IF THERE IS ANYBODY IN THE ROOMY MISSED, I APOLOGIZE. PLACEZE RAISE YOUR HAND. WE WILL H GO TO GALLEGOS, FOLLOD BY HOLLY KIBELL. >> GO AHEAD, GABE. >> GOOD EVENING. >> PLEASE PROCEED. >> Coun. Davis: GABE FIRST. >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR, AND MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. I'M A YOUNG PROFESSIONAL IN ALBUQUERQUE AND A BRAND NEW HOMEOWNER. AND A RESIDENT FROM PASEO AND BARSTOW, JUST MILES AWAY FROM BALLOON FIESTA MARK, A PLACE THAT I HOPE WILL BECOME FULL OF ENERGY AND HE CAN SITE MEANT. I'M IN STRONG SUPPORT OF THE LEASE AGREEMENT. WE CAN CAN ALL THEEE AGREE THAT THIS TEAM HAS CREATED NEW ENERGY AND VIBRANT IS HE IN OUR CITY, A VISION FOR ALL OF TO US AGREE IS WORE ANY OF RALLYING AROUND. THIS IS A BRIGHT FUTURE FOR OUR TEAM. THIS STADIUM WILL HAVE AN MEDIUM PACT ON ECONOMIC IMPACT AND JOB CREATION FOR OUR CITY, NOTWITHSTANDING THE AMONG # LOFNG TERM MONETARY IMPACT IT WILL HAVE ON SMALL RESTAURANTS. SOME OFUR MY FAVORITE MEMORIES E TAKING MY FAMILY ACROSS NEW MEXICO TO NM YOU AN FIGHTED GAMES, BECAUSE THEY ARE SO EXCITED AND TO MAKES SHE SO PROUD TO BE A NEW MEXICAN AND PROUD TO BE A RESIDENT AND HOMEOWNER IN THE CITY. YOU C WITH ENCOURAGE THE COUNCIL TO SUPPORT THE LEASE FOR NM UNITED IN THE BALLOON FIESTA PARK KNOWING WE ARE UNLOOKING A GREAT STORY FOR OUR CITY AND MY FAMILY AND I HAVE VERY EXCITED HAVE AN INCREDIBLE DPES NATION TO JOIN ALL YEAR WRONG BECAUSE OF THE PHENOMENAL PUBLIC/PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP ON THE TABLE. THANK YOU. >> HOWIE, FOLLOWED BY ROBERT. >> THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SAY A FEW WORDS HERE MANY I'LL KEEP THIS SHORT. I'M THE BRAND MANAGER FOR MTUCCIS RESTAURANTS HERE IN ALBUQUERQUE, AND I'M THE FATHERT OF AN LITTLE GIRL. WE G HAVE HEARD A LOT ABOUT HOW THE COMMUNITY HAS ENGAGED WITH NEW MEXICO UNITED. FROM LOTS OF DIFFERENT PEOPLE. MY, AT THE TIME, 11 YEAR OLD DAUGHTER, LAST YEAR, HAD THE OPPORTUNITY, WAS INVITED TO SING THE NATIONAL ANTHEM AT THE BEGINNING OF THE GAME. AND THEN THIS YEAR, SHE ADDITIONED AGAIN AND SHE WAS INVITED BACK AGAIN. SHE IS A NOTHING OTHER THAN A S, NOW SEVEN GRADE STUDENT, BUT I THINK IT SPEAKS VOLUMINGIN UNANIMOUS ABOUT WHO RUNS THIS ORGANIZATION THAT THEY WILL ALLOW HER THE OPPORTUNITY AS MUCH ASNI ANY LOCAL SLEB IT'S CT WOULD, AND I FEEL THIS TEAM TOUCHES THE LIVES OF. PEOPLE. IPE SUPPORT THE STADIUM AND I BELIEVER THE BOARD OF OUR COMPANY DOES AS WELL. >> ROBERT DURHAM. TODAY BY TERRY MULLER. >> HELLO. THANK YOU, PRESIDENT AND H COUNCILORS. MY NAME ISCI LOB DURHAM. I'M AN ALBUQUERQUE RESIDENT, BORN IN ALBUQUERQUE AND RAISED IN NEW MEXICO. AND I'VE BEEN BACK IN NEW MEXICO FOR ALMOST 30 YEARS. I CERTAINLY WAS NOT A SOCCER FAN. BUT AFTER STARTING TO GO TO THE NEW MEXICO UNITED GAMES, I AM NOW A DIE HARD NEW MEXICO UNITED FAN, AND HAVE ACTUALLY GOT SEASON TICKETS. I HAVEN'T SEEN THIS LEVEL OF EXCITEMENT FOR ANYTHING IN NEW MEXICO THAT I CAN REMEMBER, AND WHATND I'VE BEEN ABSOLUTELY AMAD AT IS THE UNIQUE CONNECTION THAT EVERYTHING THAT'S INVOLVED WITH THE TEAM AND THE ORGANIZATION HAS MADE WITH THE COMMUNITY AND THE YOUTH OFND OUR CITY. AND I LOVE TAKING MY GRANDDAUGHTER THERE. I CAN'T T WAIT FOR MY GRANDSON O BE OLD ENOUGH TO GO. AND IT SEEMS LIKE BALLOON FIESTA PARK WOULD BE A PERFECT PLACE FOR THIS TO BE. I HOPE YOU APPROVE THE LEASE. THANK L YOU. >> TERRY MOORE, FOLLOWED BY TIMOTHY SPHERES. >> GOOD EVENING. IVE WANT TO START BY SAYING I HE LIVED IN ALBUQUERQUE FOR ABOUT 30 YEARS, I'M NOT FROM HERE, BUT I RAISED TWO CHILDREN HERE, TWO SOCCER PLAYERS HERE. I H WAS A SOCCER MOM FOR 15 YEAS STRAIGHT AND IT IS IN MY BLOOD. I AM B VERY EXCITED AT THE PROSPECT OF NEW MEXICO UNITED HAVING A PERMANENT HOME AT BALLOON FIESTA PARK. I HAVE VOLUNTEERED WITH THE FOUNDATION, SOMOS UNIDOS, AND I'M AMAZED AT THE OVERWHELM BEING PASSION OF THE FANSZ AND VISITOR'S AT EVERY GAME. IT IS SO MUCH MORE THAN SOCCER. ITSO IS ABOUT COMMUNITY. ITMU IS ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY, T IS ABOUT THE FUTURE FOR OUR YOUNG PEOPLE. I HAVEPE READ THE NEGATIVE COMMENTS ON SOCIAL MEDIA, BUT A. AND IT IS APOLLING TO ME. WE NEED TO HAVE A GATHERING PLACEHE THAT EYE NIGHTS US. WHAT I HAVE READS, IT WILL BE ON LAND INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS ARE NEEDED ALSO FOR BALLOON FIESTA PARK, AND YES, NEW MEXICO UNITED WILL BE A BENEFICIARY OF THOSE IMPROVEMENTS, BUT THE FACT IS, THOSE IMPROVEMENTS ARE NEEDED WITH OR WITHOUT A STADIUM. I HOPE THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVES THE LEASE. IT IS REALLY TIME FOR US TO A HAVE A PERMANENT STADIUM FOR OUR SOCCER TEAM, ONE OPEN FOR ALL NEW MEXICANS 365 DAYS A YEAR. I FOR ONE FULLY SUPPORT THE STAYED YOU AT BALLOON FIESTA PARK. I HOPE YOU MAKE IT A REALITY. THANKEA YOU. >> NEXT WE HAVE TIMOTHY SPHERES. >> MY NAME IS TIM SPHERES. MR. PRESIDENT AND VICE-PRESIDENT AND COUNCILORS, AND ESPECIALLY COUNCIL BASAN, MY COUNCILOR. I'M A HOME HOME ENGINEER BALLOON FIESTA PARK, IBA HAVE BEEN HEREN 25 YEARS. NEW MEXICO IS A GREAT OUTDOORS APPEAL, AND IT IS VERY APPEALING 20 BEAM -- TO PEOPLE WHO ARE 40 YEARS AND OVER, BUT IT DOES NOT HAVE A LOT THAT APPEALS TO YOUNGER PEOPLE. I HAVE TWO CHILDREN WHO GRADUATED AND LEFT AND LIVE IN OTHER STATES, AROUND I WOULD LIKE IF WE WERE ABLE TO YOU TRACT THEM BACK, NOT JUST MY CHILDREN, BUT I HAVE A VERY HARD TIME HIRING TECH EMPLOYEES FROM OTHER STATES WHO LIKE BIG CITIES, WHO DOESN'T WANT TO LIVE IN PLACES IS THAT THEY SEE AS SLEEPY. I THINKSL THAT THIS STADIUM IS E STEPPING STONE IN THAT DIRECTION, ATTRACTING EDUCATED, SUCCESSFUL IN COMMANDS 25-30 YEARS OLD. WE WANT VISITORS, WE WANT PEOPLE TO MOVE HERE AND WORK HERE. I THINK MOST OF WHAT I HAD TO SAY, BEYOND THAT, HAS ALREADY BEEN SAID, BUT I EXTEND MY FULL HEARTED SUPPORT FOR THIS PROJECT, AND WOULD HOPE YOU DO VOTE YES ON THE LEASE AGREEMENT. THANK YOU VERYEE MUCH. >> MR. PRESIDENT, THAT CONCLUDES COMMENT. >> Coun. Davis: ALL RIGHT. LET'S SEE WHAT WE CAN DO HERE. MR. RAEL, THIS BILL CAME DOWN AS AN EC FROM THE ADMINISTRATION AS A RESULT OF NEGOTIATIONS THERE. I KNOW WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE DETAILS. AND AS SUCCINCTLY AS POSSIBLE, CAN YOU GIVE US A RUN DOWN? >> SURE, MR. PRESIDENT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. LET ME, BEGIN BY INDICATING TO YOUIN ALL THAT ITS PROJECTS, ITSELF, AND THE LEASE THAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU HAS A PROVISION THAT IS CONTINGENT, THIS LEASE WOULD BE CONTINGENT IN TERMS OF ITS ENFORCEMENT ONLY AFTER ITS ENVIRONMENTAL PLANNING COMMISSION APPROVES AN AMENDMENT, THE BALLOON FIESTA MASTER PLAN, THAT IS A PROCESS THAT'S GOING TO THE ECC. SO IF SORE SOME REASON THE PLANNING PROCESS, I.E., THE APPROVALS ARE NOT CONSUMMATED, THISMM AGREEMENT IS TERMINATED,E ANDD, THAT'S REALLY I THINKHI IMPORTANT, BECAUSE IT GOES DOES GO TO THE QUESTION OF COMMUNITY INPUT, ETC., THROUGH THAT PROCESS. MR. PRESIDENT, AROUND MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, THIS IS AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE NEW MEXICO UNITED ATHLETIC CLUB. IT IS A SECTION 102. IT PROVIDES REALLY A STRUCTURE.U ITRE TALKS ABOUT FIRST AND FOREMOST THE TEAM MUST GET THE APPROVAL OF THE LEAGUE THAT THEY PLAY IN, IN ORDER TO ENSURE THAT WE ARE NOT BUILDING A STAYED YOU THAT DOESN'T MEET THE REQUIREMENTS. IT. ALSO REQUIRES THAT THE TEAM PAY, OR FINANCE IN THE AMOUNT OF AT LEAST $30 MILLION. THAT MEANS THAT AT A MINIMUM, THAT IINS WHAT NEEDS TO BE SPENT ON BEHALF OF THE TEAM TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS, IF YOU WILL, AGREEMENT. THE TENANT IS INTERESTED, OBVIOUSLY, IN COMING BACK FOR INDUSTRIAL REVENUE BONDS. INFRASTRUCTURE AT THE BALLOON FIESTA PARK HAS BEENBA APPROVEDY THE LEGISLATURE. IT WILL BE UTILIZED FOR TWO PURPOSES. ONE ISRP FOR IMPROVEMENTS TO THE ACTUAL FACILITY, ITSELF, TO THE PARK, PUTTING IN WATER AND SEWER LINES, AND INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WILL ADD TO, IF I WILL, THE VALUE OF THE PARK, ITSELF, BUT ALSO WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR THE USE OF CONNECTING TO THE STADIUM ITSELF. THE LEASE IS TO LEASE 7 ACRES OF LAND. THE PRICE OF THE LEASE IS, AS STATED BY OTHERS, $35,000 PER YEAR FOR THE LEASE. IT ALSO INCLUDES A TEN PERCENT, IF YOU WILL, REVENUE TO THE CITY FROM PARKING FEES ON AN ANNUAL BASIS. TO GIVE YOU A PERSPECTIVE OF THAT, IF THERE ARE 3000 SPACES, WHICH IS USUALLY THE NUMBER OF SPACE THAT IS ARE UTILIZED EVEN TODAY AT ISOTOPES PARK, TIMES $15 A SPACE, THERE IS A REVENUE TO THE CITY, INCLUDING THE LEASE, OF ABOUT 76 THOUGH $500 FORK A TOTAL OF $112,000 PAID TO THE CITY ON AN ANNUAL BASIS FOR THE USE OFSI THE PARK. AND THIS ONLY ASSUMES THE 17 GAMES THAT WE KNOW THIS THEY TYPICALLY PLAY FROM A SEASON. ADDITIONAL REVENUE, OBVIOUSLY,LY WILL COME TO THE CITY FOR OTHER SPECIAL EVENTS THAT MAY OR MAY NOT OCCUR ON THE SITE. BUT S THAT ADDITIONAL REVENUE WL BE PART OF THE ANNUAL PAYMENT TO THE CITY FOR THE USE OF THE STADIUM. THE AGREEMENT ALSO RECOGNIZES THAT THE BALLOON FIESTA AS AN EVENT IS A SIGNATURES EVENT FOR THE CITY. THE AGREEMENT REQUIRES THAT THE TENANT, I.E. IN THIS I CASE, ITS ATHLETIC CLB WILL NOT PROVIDE ANY EVENTS, OR HAVE ANY EVENTS, DURING THE TEN DAY PERIOD OF THE ACTUAL BALLOOL FIESTA THAT WE EXPERIENCED LAST WEEK. ADDITIONALLY, THE LEASE IS FOR 30 YEARS, WITH TWO EXTENSIONS, AND AT THE END OF THOSE EXTENSIONS, EACH EXPECTS IS 15 -- EACH EXTENSION IS 15 YEARS, THE TEAM WOULD COVER OFER THE STADIUM FOR A DOLLAR. OBVIOUSLY THAT'S LONGER THAN ANY OF HUSBAND BE AROUND, BUT NONETHELESS, IT IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE LONG-TERMRM THAT THE CITY WOULD EVENTUALLYLL HAVE THIS FACILITY. THE MEDIUM PARENTS I SAID EARLIER, IS 30 MILLION-DOLLAR. THERE ARDOE SOME STRUCTURES IN E AGREEMENT THAT CLEARLY STATE THAT, AGAIN, ITS ENVIRONMENTAL PLANNING COMMISSION PLANS MUST BE MET BEFORE THE STADIUM -- OR BEFORE THIS LOWS TAKES INTO EFFECT, IF YOU WILL. WE DO HAVE NEGOTIATIONS THAT THE CITY WOULD GET TEN DAYS PER YEAR FOR THE USE OF THE FACILITY AT NO COST TO THE CITY. I THINK IT IS ALSO IMPORTANT THAT YOU RECOGNIZE THAT THE STADIUM, ITSELF, THE TENANT WILL PAY FOR ALL THE UTILITY COSTS, ALL OF THE OPERATING COSTS, FOR ITS SIMPLE THINGS LIKE WATER, SEWER, GAS, REFUSE SERVICES, HE IS, AND BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE GENERAL MAINTENANCE AND UPKEEP OF THE U STADIUM FOR THE DURATIN OFUR THE LEASE. MR. PRESIDENT, I THINK THE ALSO ISSUES IS THERE IS A CLAUSE ININ THE AGREEMENT THAT IF THE TEENLL FAILS TO NEGOTIATE, AND/OR FAULTS TO SEEK ITS PRIVATE FINANCING, THIS AGREEMENT WOULD ALSO TERMINATE. THERE ISMI A TERMINATION CLAUSE THAT WILL EXPIRE ON DISEASE 31 OF 2027, SO AS THE TEAM MOVES FORWARD, THE TEAM WOULD HAVE TO COME UP WITH A PLAN TO BUILD A FACILITY. OTHER,CI FULL, OPPORTUNITIES HEE ARE THE TEAM HAS AGREED TO HOST HIGH SCHOOL SOCCER TOURNAMENTS, ETC., AND TO DO ITS PART TO WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY AS IT LET'S TO THE USE OF THE FACILITY. AND THERE IS ALSO A PROVISION THAT THE TEAM WOULD AGREE TO ENTER INTO A COMMUNITY BENEFITS AGREEMENT WITH THE EFFECTED NEIGHBORHOODS SO THERE MAY BE SOME OPPORTUNITIES TO USE THE FACILITY AND/OR TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL SERVICES FOR THE IMPACTED NEIGHBORHOODS AROUND THE STADIUM, ITSELF. MR. PRESIDENT, AND MEMBERS OF THEBE COUNCIL, THERE ARE SEVERA, IF YOU WILL, WHAT WE CALL REQUIREMENTS IN THE DOCUMENT. FOR EXAMPLE, A REQUIREMENT THAT IF THE LEASE -- IF THE LAND USE PLANNING IS APPROVED BY THE ENVIRONMENTAL PLANNING COMMISSION, THE CITY WOULD BEGIN LTS CONSTRUCTION OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE WITHIN SIX MONTHS. THERE IS ALSO AMO REQUIREMENT TT IF ONCE THAT HAPPENS, THAT THE TEAM WILL ALSO BEGIN ITS CONSTRUCTION WITHIN THE OF A YEAR OF THAT SAME YEAR. SO THERE ARE PROVISIONS IN HERE TO ENSURE THAT THE CITY IS PROTECTED. LAST, BUT NOT LEAST, MR. PRESIDENT, THIS IS A -- THERE ARE SEVEN # $13.5 MILLION OF STATE GRANT FUNDS AND I VALUABLE THROUGH THE CITY FOR IMPROVEMENTS TO THE BALLOON FIESTA PARK.BA THAT INCLUDES $4.5 MILLION TO DO INFRASTRUCTURE TO THE PARK TO IMPROVE THE VENDOR ROW AND INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WOULD IS NEEDED T IO ENSURE THE FIESTA CONTINUES TO IMPROVE AND MOVE FORWARD. THERE ARE $5 MILLION THAT WAS SECURED BY THE LEGISLATURE THIS LAST SESSION TO DO IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE AVECTUAL FACILITY, ITSE. THOSE IMPROVEMENTS ARE TO IMPROVE THE SITE, IF YOU WILL, AND TO SHORE UP THE PARKING AREAS, ETC., SO THERE IS ADEQUATE PARKING PAD, IF I WILL, BY THE FACILITY TO BE BUILT IS READY TO GO OTHER THAN ALL THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE LEASE. THE AND I DISITION AM $4 MILLION ARE FUNDS AHAVE ABLE, THAT WERE MADE AVAILABLE TO THE CITY OVER THREE OR FOUR YEARS AGO FOR STADIUM IMPROVEMENTS. ALL OF THAT BEING SAID, THE ENTIRE $13.5 MILLION IS AVAILABLE TO BENEFIT, FULL, THE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE PARK AND TO CREATE A, FULL, A PAD READY SITE SO THAT THE FACILITY CAN BE BUILT, AND WE CAN MOVE FORWARD. WITH THAT, MR. PRESIDENT, I WOULDDE BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. >> Coun. Davis: THANK YOU, MR. REAM. JUST TO CLARIFY, AS I READ THIS, AS # AND AS I UNDERSTOOD FROM YOU, CURRENTLY CITY TAXPAYERS ARE NOT OBLIGATED TO CEMENT ANY MONEY ON THIS FACILITY THE LEGISLATURE IS ALLOCATED THE FUNDS, AND THE TEAM IS OBLIGATESSED TO SPEND AT LEAST $0 MILLION ON L THEIR SIDE OF TE LEDGE TER. DO I -- LEDGER. DO I UNDERSTAND THAT WHETHER IF ALL COMES TOGETHER, THERE ARE NO CITY DOLLARS, ALTHOUGH THE CITY WILL BE A PATH FOR THE STATE DOLLARS? >> THAT'S CORRECT, MR. PRESIDENT. THE IF I UNDERSTANDING I DESCRIBED IS ALL STATE LEGISLATIVE FUNDS AND YOU ARE CORRECT, THE YOU WILL # TEAM WILL SPEND AT LEAST $30 MILLION. >> Coun. Davis: I APPRECIATE THAT. MR. RAEL YOU KNOW I HAVE ALWAYS CARED ABOUT THOSE BENCHMARKS A OR CLAW BACKS, SAYING, YOU'VE GOT TO SPEND YOUR MONEY OR WE GET THIS BACK. NOT THAT I DON'T THINK ITS TEAM IS GOING TO DO THAT, I THINK IT ISHI IMPORTANT THAT IF THINGS CHANGE, WE GET THE OPPORTUNITY TO STILL USE THIS, AND LEASE THAT TO A NEW TENANT, AND SO I APPRECIATE THE ADMINISTRATION ADDING THAT CLAUSE AND THE TENANT WORKING TOWARDS T LET'S GO TO COUNCILOR QUESTIONS. >> Coun. Bassan: MR. PRESIDENT, I DON'T KNOW WHO MIGHT HAVE THEI ANSWER TO THETH LAST TIME THE BALLOON FIESTA COMMISSION MET. >> MR. PRESIDENT AND COUNCILLOR BASSAN, WE ACTUALLY CONTACTED THE BALLOON FIESTA COMMISSION TO HAVE A PUBLIC MEET WOULD GET COMMISSION TO REVIEW THE PROPOSE A. ITS COMMISSION, ITSELF, DID NOT HAVE A QUORUM TO CONDUCT BUSINESS AT THAT MOMENT. HOWEVER, THE EFFORT WAS MADE TO VISIT WITH THEM ABOUT THE SITE. MR. SIMON IS HERE. HE CAN TELL YOU ABOUT THE ACTUAL MEETING ITSELF. BUT WE CAN REACH OUT TO THE COMMISSION. AND TO BE CANDID, COUNCILLOR BASSAN, THE COMMISSION HAS NOT MET, IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING, FOR MANY YEARS. IT WAS A COMMISSION THAT WAS ESTABLISHED YEARS AGO, AND I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY HAVE ALL THE QUORUM AT THIS POINT. BUT WE DID MEET WERE THE MEMBERS THAT WERE NOTIFIED. WE DID NOTIFY THEM. >> Coun. Bassan: MR. PRESIDENT, MR. PADILLA HAS A QUESTION. >> MR. PRESIDENT, JUST QUICKLY LOOKING AT THE WEBSITE, THE LAST DATE IT SHOWS THAT ANYBODY MET WAS IN JULY OF 2020. >> Coun. Bassan: WHICH, MR. PRESIDENT, WHICH WE ALL KNOW IS COVID. JULY OF 2020 IS WHEN THE WORLD SHUTLD DOWN. SO IT WAS NOT THAT IT WAS A DEBUNK COMMISSION, IT WAS A COMMISSION THAT GOT WRAPPED UP. THERE WAS A MEET WOULD GET COMMISSION. THERE WAS AN ATTEMPT TOIS MEET WITH THEM.T SURE, THERE WAS ALSO NOT A QUORUM. SO NO VOTE COULD BE HAD ON WHETHER THEY FELT ONE WAY OR ANOTHER IN PARTICULAR. BUT IS THIS COMMISSION AT LEAST RESPONSIBLE FOR IMPROVING OR BEING INVOLVED IN ANY 250EU7 OF LEASE AGREEMENTS AT BALLOON FIESTA PARK? >> Coun. Bassan: SOCIETY COMMISSION IS SUPPOSED TO APPROVE WHETHER OR NOT SOMETHING IS TO HAPPEN, AND THE COMMISSION WASMI NODE THAT THERE WAS NOT A QUORUM. I DON'T THINK IT IS SAFE TOQU S, AND I AM SPECULATING THAT, THE QUORUM CANNOT BE LEECHED,, BECAUSE THERE IS NOT SUFFICIENT AMOUNT OFFI PEOPLE. IT IS THAT THINGS HAVE LAND. SO I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE DON'T OVER LOOK THAT WE HAVE ESTABLISHED THIS COMMISSION, AND EVERYTHING WE HAVE HEARD WITH RESPECTING ESTABLISHEDSH COMMISSIONS. I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD NOT OVER LOOK. AND THEN MY OTHER QUESTION IS, MR. PRESIDENT, IF A LEASE AGREEMENT REQUIRED IN ORDER FOR THIS PROCESS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH LAND USE MATTERS? >> IS THAT CORRECT, IS THAT WRONG? >> [INAUDIBLE] >> THIS MIGHT BE A REALLY GOOD START INTO THIS SEGUE OF MAYBE WE SHOULD LEARN WHAT IS REQUIRED AND WHY IS A LEASE AGREEMENT REQUIRED RIGHT NOW? I WAS TOLD THAT A LETTER OF -- A CERTIFICATE -- SORRY, A LETTER OF AUTHORIZATION FROM THE CITY IS REQUIRED IN ORDER TO GO THROUGH THE PROPER CHANNELS FOR LAND-USE MATTERS AND I BELIEVE I WAS INFORMED THERE ARE TWO THAT HAVE HAPPENED. THERE IS NOTHING HOLDING BACK PROGRESS APPROXIMATE AS FAR AS MOVING FORWARD WITH ANY POTENTIAL LAND USE MATTERS INVOLVED IN THIS USE AGREEMENT. >> MR. REAL, CAN YOU ASK AND CAN YOU GIVE US A BETTER ANSWER IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR. >> MR. PRESIDENT, IF YOU WOULD GIVE ME AN OPPORTUNITY. I'M NOT AWARE OF THIS LEASE AGREEMENT ISSUE. I WOULD SAY THAT LEASE AGREEMENT IS NOT BINDING ON THE CITY IF THE LAND USE ARRANGEMENTS ARE NOT APPEALED IN AN AGREEMENT OR A COURT. THE ISSUE WITH THE LEASE IS TO CREATE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE TEAM ITSELF TO BEGIN TO WORK ON ITS FINANCING STRUCTURE AND GET ITS FINANCES IN ORDER SO THAT IF THEY ARE SUCCESSFUL -- IF WE ARE SUCCESS ENVELOPE GETTING THE LAND USE APPROVAL, THEY CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PROJECT. SO THAT IS THE PURPOSE OF THE LEASE. >> OKAY, MR. PRESIDENT, I JUST -- FOR THE RECORD, I THINK IT WOULD BEHOOVE ADMINISTRATION, COUNCIL STAFF, THE CITY COUNCIL TO KNOW: IS A LEASE AGREEMENT REQUIRED TO GO FORWARD WITH LAND-USE MATTERS OR LETTERS OF AUTHORIZATION OR WHAT-NOT? WHAT IS THE REQUIREMENT AND IF WE DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER TO THAT, THANK IS PRETTY LOUD AND UNFORTUNATE ON ALL ACCOUNTS, MINE INCLUDED. >> THANK YOU, COUNCILOR. >> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. MY QUESTIONS ARE SIMILAR. FIRST OFF I WOULD LIKE TO SAY I'M A SUPPORTER OF SOCCER. I LIKE THE STADIUM IDEA. I HAVE BEEN TO SEVERAL MATCHES AND I LOVE WATCHING THE GAME. WHAT'S GOING ON HERE IS YOU KNOW, I REALLY APPRECIATE ALL OF YOUR HEART-FELT COMMENTS. I REALLY DO. BUT WHEN I'M HEARING THE REST OF T AND I'M HEARING THAT WE CAN'T SPEAK ABOUT CERTAIN ITEMS THAT THERE IS AN EPC ISSUE AND WE NEED TO HAVE THIS ISSUE WORKED OUT HERE. ALL OF THESE THINGS ARE MAKING ME BE A LITTLE BIT MORE FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT'S GOING ON. I MEAN -- I MEAN, EVERYBODY HERE THAT SPOKE MAKES ME FEEL LIKE MAN, MY KID IS TELLING ME, LET'S PIE A PORCHE AND IF I HAD A PORCHE IT WOULD BE FUN AND COOL AND EXAMINE SIGHT AND IT WOULD MAKE ME FEEL GOOD EVERY TIME I GOT INTO THAT, BUT BY THE SAME TOKEN, EACH ONE OF US WHO IS HERE HAS BEEN IN THAT SITUATION AND ARE IN THAT SITUATION. SO BASED ON THAT, WE ALL -- BECAUSE OF OUR LIVELIHOODS AND WHAT WE DO, WE HAVE TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR OUR DECISIONS. I THINK IT'S VERY, VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE HERE IN CITY COUNCIL ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE DECISIONS THAT ARE GOING ON. AND WHAT I'M HEARING HERE IS THAT THERE ARE SOME ISSUES THAT WE NEED TO WORK OUT AND NOT PUT THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE. AND MAKE SURE THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS DONE. AND FOR US, FRANKLY A VOTE FOR A FINANCIALLY FAIR LEASE FOR THE CITY IS NOT -- IT IS NOT A NO FOR UNITED BY A QUESTION FOR THE TAXPAYERS. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE DO THIS THING CORRECTLY AND GO THROUGH ALL OF THE CHANNELS. WE ARE MISSING THINGS HERE, AND WE ARE MISSING BIG THINGS HERE. SO BASED ON, THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE -- I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR A 90-DAY DEFERRAL. >> SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR A DEFERRAL. SIR, YOU HAVE TO PUT YOUR HAND DOWN. WE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO DO THAT RIGHT NOW. THERE IS A MOTION AND SECOND ON A MOTION DEFERRAL, WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO GO THROUGH THE COUNCILORS, ON THAT -- >> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT, JUST A COUPLE OF OVERALL QUESTIONS ON THE LEASE. WERE OTHER LOCATIONS CONSIDERED BEYOND THE ONE THAT WAS DOWNTOWN? WERE OTHER LOCATIONS THROUGHOUT THE CITY -- >> MR. PRESIDENT AND COUNCILOR, THERE WERE OTHER LOCATIONS THAT WERE CONSIDERED. ASIDE FROM THE DOWNTOWN LOCATION THAT WAS OBVIOUSLY ON THE BALLOT SEVERAL YEARS AGO, THERE WAS THE LOCATION BY THE UNIVERSITY NEXT TO CESA CHAVEZ BOULEVARD, A PARCEL OF LAND THAT MIGHT HAVE WORKED THERE BUT THE ISSUES WERE THE TOPOGRAPHY OF THE SITE AND THE INABILITY TO FIND ADEQUATE PARKING TO ACCOMMODATE THE FACILITY. THERE WAS SOME CONVERSATIONS ABOUT A SITE ON THE WEST SIDE THAT IS OWNED BY THE PRIVATE SECTOR. AND THAT WAS ALSO CONSIDERED BY THE TEAM WHEN THEY WERE REVIEWING THAT SITE; HOWEVER, THAT SITE ALSO HAS CHALLENGING WITH TOPOGRAPHY BUT IT IS A SITE THAT WOULD BE SIGNIFICANTLY EXPENSIVE BECAUSE OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND THE DECK REQUIRED TO -- IF YOU WILL -- TO GET THE SITE READY. >> THANK YOU. HAS THERE BEEN ANY ECONOMIC ANALYSIS OF THE BENEFIT TO ALBUQUERQUE FROM HAVING THE UNITED TEAM PLAY HERE? >> MR. PRESIDENT AND COUNCILOR COUNCILORFIEBELKORN, I'M NOT AWF THEY HAVE DONE A STUDY OF THAT NATURE. >> I DON'T SEE ANYONE STANDING UP WITH INFORMATION -- YES, SURE, DO YOU WANT TO COME DOWN AND ANSWER -- >> -- COME DOWN REALLY QUICKLY. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT AND COUNCILOR. THE CITY CONDUCTED AN INDEPENDENT STUDY TWO YEARS AGO WHEN WAS PROVIDED THAT HAD A LOT OF INFORMATION ON THE ECONOMIC IMPACT INCLUDING PART-TIME AND FULL-TIME JOBS AND GROSS RECEIPTS. AND THAT INFORMATION IS PUBLIC AND AVAILABLE AND IT WAS CONDUCTED BY THE CITY AND NOT THE TEAM. >> BY THE CITY, THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> AND WE TALK A LOT ABOUT THE $30 MILLION -- AT LEAST $30 MILLION. MY READ IS THEY HAVE TO COME UP WITH HOWEVER MUCH IT COSTS TO BUILD THE STADIUM, SO IF IT'S 60 MILLION, THEY HAVE TO FIGURE THAT OUT -- >> MR. PRESIDENT AND COUNCILOR THAT IS CORRECT, PUTTING IN A WELL OF AT LEAST $30 MILLION WAS TO CREATE A FLOOR SO WE DID NOT SPEND A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF MONEY CREATING A PAD-READY SITE AND HAVING A STADIUM THAT WAS SUBPAR. >> THANK YOU, AND UNDER LOCAL CONTRACTORS LANGUAGE I NOTE THAT THIS IS A VERY LARGE PROJECT, AT LEAST $30 MILLION. IS THERE NO PROJECT LABOR AGREEMENT REQUIRED FOR THIS CONSTRUCTION LIKE THERE IS NO CITY BUILDINGS? >> MR. PRESIDENT AND COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, ON THE PRIVATE SECTOR THERE IS NOT A REQUIREMENT FOR THAT BUT THERE IS OBVIOUSLY LIKE -- A REQUIREMENT, UM, FOR THE CITY ON ANY PROJECT THAT IS OVER $10 MILLION. THE INFRASTRUCTURE AT THE PARK IF IT WAS ALL TO BE PUT TOGETHER AS ONE BIG PACKAGE, THAT WOULD REQUIRE A PROJECT LABOR AGREEMENT. >> WILL IT BE PUT TOGETHER AS ONE BIG PACKAGE OR PIECEMEALED OUT A SO WE DO NOT HAVE A LIEB R AGREEMENT. >> WE WILL DO WHAT IS REQUIRED TO MOVE IT FORWARD AS A PROJECT. IT IS IN THE BEST INTERESTS OF THE CITY TO HAVE IT ALL AS ONE PROJECT BECAUSE OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND THE WORK. WE HAVE NOT MADE THAT SUGGESTION BUT IT IS OUR INTENTION TO HAVE ONE CONTRACTOR FOR THE ENTIRE PROJECT. >> AND IN THE BEST INTERESTS OF THE WORKERS AS WELL, THAT WOULD BE GOOD FOR ME. AND IN THE TEN DAYS PER YEAR OF WORK CAN YOU TALK ME THROUGH OUR TEN WAS DECIDED ON? >> MR. PRESIDENT AND COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, WE LOOKED AT A LOT OF THINGS AND CONDITIONS THAT WERE A PART OF THE ISOTOPES LEASE, WHICH IS SOMEWHAT SIMILAR IN THAT THERE IS A PROVISION FOR THE CITY TO USE THE FACILITY FOR A NUMBER OF DAYS. TEN SEEMED TO BE A REASONABLE AMOUNT OF TIME AND THIS WOULD BE BEYOND THE TEN DAYS THAT MIGHT BE AVAILABLE IF THE TEAM AND THE BALLOON FIESTA AGREEMENT FOR USE OF THE STADIUM DURING THE FIESTA. >> OKAY, THANK YOU. AND I JUST WANT TO VERIFY, THIS IS THE ONLY QUESTION I'VE GOTTEN IS COMMUNITY MEETINGS AND OUTREACH WOULD CONTINUE THROUGH THE ECC PROCESS. >> MR. PRESIDENT AND COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, YES, THEY WILL, WE ARE SET UP AS I UNDERSTAND ANOTHER MEETING WITH THE WILDFLOWER NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND THERE WAS SOME ISSUE I BELIEVE WITH THE E-MAIL AND THE CITY WILL CONSIDER THE E APPROVAL OF THE AMENDMENT TO THE MASTER PLAN AT THEIR NOVEMBER MEETING AND SO BETWEEN NOW AND THE 15TH I BELIEVE, THERE WILL BE ADDITIONAL MEETINGS. >> ONE MORE QUESTION, MR. PRESIDENT. IN SECTION 10.03 WE TALK ABOUT THE FACT THAT THE CITY WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR MAINTENANCE OF ALL OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE CAUSE TO BE PUT IN. DO WE HAVE ANY ESTIMATES ON MAINTENANCE COSTS FOR THOSE TYPES OF AND PIECES OF INFRASTRUCTURE? >> MR. PRESIDENT AND COUNCILOR, THAT IS A CHALLENGING QUESTION IN THE SENSE THAT USUALLY WHEN YOU PUT NEW FACILITIES IN, YOUR OPERATING COSTS ARE VERY MINIMAL EARLY IF YOU WILL IN THE INVESTMENT PHASE. KEEP IN MIND THAT WATER AND SEWER SYSTEMS ARE THE WATER AUTHORITY'S RESPONSIBILITY. AND THAT INFRASTRUCTURE WILL BE TURNED OVER TO THE WATER AUTHORITY AS A GOVERN MENTAL ENTITY AND PUTTING IN THE LINES -- TAKES THOSE, AND THERE IS A COST ASSOCIATED WITH THOSE BUT THAT IS AN INFRASTRUCTURE THAT GOES THROUGH DIFFERENT ENTITIES -- >> JUST TO CLARIFY ON THAT ONE. A LARGE PERCENTAGE OF THOSE INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS BENEFIT THE BALLOON FIESTA AS WELL. >> THERE IS NO QUESTION, MR. PRESIDENT AND COUNCIL FIEBELKORN THAT THE INFLOODWATER INFRASTRUCTURE IS DESPERATELY NECESSARY FOR THE SURVIVAL OF THE ABOUT A HOT-AIR BALLOON FIESTA ITSELF BUT FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE AS A WHOLE, PUBLIC BATHROOMS AND SECURITY FOR THE FACILITY, AND ADITIONZAL IMPROVEMENTS TO THE PARK TO BE USED FOR MULTIPLE THINGS BUT TO ASSIST WITH THE FIESTA AND THE NEEDS THEY SEE THROUGHOUT THE COURSE OF THE YEAR. AND IF I MIGHT ADD ONE MORE POINT, COUNCILOR SINCE YOU WERE ASKING ABOUT THE ISSUES. A NOTE WAS SENT TO ME BY MR. STEINMAN, THE BALLOON FIESTA COMMISSION IS A RECOGNIZE RECOMMENDINGENTITY TO THE CITY N HAVE HIM COME AND TALK MORE ABOUT THAT BUT THEY ARE NOT APPROVAL BUT A RECOMMENDING BODY TO THE CITY ON THE USES AND AGREEMENTS ON THE PARK. >> WE MAY COME BACK TO THAT. BACK BRIEFLY TO COUNSELOR SANCHEZ. >> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT, ACTUALLY, I HAVE LIKE ZEN MORE E QUESTIONS. >> WE HAVE A MOTION FOR DEFERL. DEFERRAL. >> SO I HAVE A LOT MORE QUESTIONS AND THE OTHER COUNCILORS YOU CAN SEE ARE VERY, VERY CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT WE ARE DOING HERE. THANK IS THE ISSUE WE NEED TO WORK OUT RIGHT HERE -- >> WE ARE GOING TO WORK ON THE MOTION TO DEFERRAL AND I HAVE TO LET THE OTHER COUNCILORS GO AND THEN WE'LL DECIDE ON COMING BACK AFTER A BREAK. >> -- TALKING ABOUT A STUDY, THERE WAS ACTUALLY AN EARLIER STUDY [INAUDIBLE] >> UPSTAIRS? >> WE LOOKED AT FIVE DIFFERENT DOWNTOWN STADIUMS AND I RESPONDERS THE BILL THAT FUNDED THAT STUDY, BUT IT SEEMS THAT THE EVOLUTION OF IT NOW, AND OF COURSE THE NEXT STUDY WAS EVEN A BETTER STUDY REGARDING THAT, BUN LOOKING AT THE AGREEMENT. AND JUST SPECIFICALLY I KNOW WE'VE TALKED IN GENERALITIES IN ANSWERING THIS QUESTION BUT -- THE PROTECTIONS THERE FOR TAXPAYERS FOR POTENTIAL COST OVERRUNS OR STADIUM ADDITIONS. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE 30 MILLION BUT IS THERE LANGUAGE IN THERE THAT SAYS -- I MEAN, IF THERE ARE POTENTIAL ORE RUN, WE HAVE A MARKER OF THIS AMOUNT FOR OVERRUNS AND ADDITIONS THAT MIGHT BE REQUIRED, WHERE THE PROTECTIONS ARE FOR THE TAXPAYERS IN THAT REGARD. >> MR. PRESIDENT AND COUNCILOR, I WILL LITTLE HAVE MR.STEIN MAN SPEAK TO THIS POINT BUT KEEP IN MIND THAT THE OVERRUNS ARE ON THE PRIVATE SECTOR, NOT ON THE CITY. THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT IS REQUIRED FOR THE SITE IS WITHIN THE FUNDING THAT IS AVAILABLE FROM THE LEGISLATURE TO BUILD THE INFRASTRUCTURE. THE ACTUAL FACILITY AND THE COST OF THE FACILITY ITSELF ARE THE PRIVATE SECTOR'S IF YOU WILL -- IN THIS CASE -- THE ATHLETIC CLUB'S RESPONSIBILITY, NOT THE CITY. AND IF THEY WANT TO ADD SOMETHING THAT IS ON THEIR SOLE DISCRETION AND NOT THE CITY OR THE TAXPAYERS. >> I GUESS BEING EXPLICIT IN THERE AND NOT IN THE WAY THAT I WOULD WORD IT. THE SECOND QUESTION IS WHY WOULD THE TEAM BE ENTITLED TO 90% OF THE PARKING REV VIEW ON A CITY-OWNED PARKING AREA, THE CITY OWNS EVERY PARKING SPOT. WHY WOULD THE TEAM BE ENTITLED TO 90% OF THE PARKING? >> MR. PRESIDENT, LET ME JUST SAY THIS AND I WILL HAVE AGAIN, IF MR. STEIN MAN WANTS TO SAY A FEW WORDS ABOUT THIS. THIS IS A PRIVATELY FINANCED FACILITY. UNLIKE ISOTOPES PARK WHERE THE CITY OWNED THE BUILDING AND ISSUED THE BOND AND WAS ON THE HOOK TO PAY THE BOND WHERE ALL OF THE REVENUES WERE SHARED AND THE COST OF THE USE OF THE FACILITY WAS SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER. IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, THE PRIVATE SECTOR IS MAKING ALL OF THE RISK ASSOCIATED WITH THE COST TO FINANCE THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE FACILITY. PART OF THAT RISK IS OBVIOUSLY ENSURING THAT THEY HAVE THE REVENUES FROM THE USE OF THE FACILITY, FROM CONCESSIONS, ET CETERA, AND THE IDEA HERE IS THAT WE HAVE ALL OF THAT PARKING SPACE AVAILABLE DURING THE YEAR THAT IT'S NOT USED VERY BEEN OFTEN, TO THE EXTENT THAT IT WOULD BE AVAILABLE TO SUPPORT IF YOU WILL THE TEAM AND ITS ENDEAVORS TO FINANCE A PRIVATELY OWNED FACILITY. THE 10% FROM THE CITY WAS AN ACKNOWLEDGMENT THAT IT IS THE CITY'S PROPERTY AND THAT THE CITY DOES HAVE A BENEFIT IF YOU WILL TO THE CITY, TO THE CITY COFFERS BUT WE DON'T GET ANY REVENUE FROM THE USE OF THE BALLOON FIESTA PARK, ALL OF THAT GOING TO THE FIESTA AND ALL OF THE REVENUES -- SO THE IDEA HERE WAS THE PARK ENABLES THE ABILITY TO HAVE A PRIVATE INVESTMENT AND ACKNOWLEDGES THE FACT THAT THE PARK AT LEAST FOR A TEN DAYS -- EXCEPT FOR THE TEN DAYS OUT OF THE YEAR REALLY DOESN'T USE ALL OF THE PARKING AVAILABLE AND IT DOESN'T BENEFIT THE CITY IN ANY FINANCIAL WAY. >> AND THERE IS A LAND-USE PROCESS THAT IS GOING TO -- HAS TO BE A LAND USE PROCESS -- RIGHT NOW WE ARE TALKING ABOUT AN AGREEMENT. WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT THE LAND USE PROCESS, MUCH NOW, I MEAN -- BEGUN, BUT I THINK IT WOULD ALSO BE PRETTY HIGHLY INAPPROPRIATE AT A TIME WHEN DURING THAT LAND-USE PROCESS, MAYBE THERE IS AN APPEAL BEFORE THE COUNCIL WHERE WE ARE AT THE SAME TIME DEALING WITH THIS AGREEMENT. WOULD YOU SAY THAT WOULD BE PRETTY INAPPROPRIATE? >> MR. PRESIDENT, THE IDEA HERE WAS YES, I THINK IT WOULD BE EVEN MORE INAPPROPRIATE IN THE FACT THAT IF YOU WILL, THE FINANCIAL STRUCTURE OF THE AGREEMENT GETS CONVOLUTED WITH THE LAND USE PORTION OF THE CONVERSATION. AGAIN, WE TRIED TO PUT IN THE DOCUMENTS THE BACKSTOP THAT IF THE LAND USE ISSUE IS NOT RESOLVED THEN THE LEASE IS TERMINATED AND TO SEPARATE THE TWO ISSUES SO AS YOU ALL KNOW THESE LAND-USE APPEALS CAN GO FOR A LONG TIME. >> BUT IT ALSO -- AND MR. PRESIDENT, I GUESS MY POINT IS IT COULD GO THE OTHER WAY, IN REVERSE. THE LAND USE PROCESS WOULD FOLLOW ITS COURSE AND WE COULD HAVE AN AGREEMENT LIKE THIS AND IF I WAS UNITED I CAN CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND WHY THEY WOULD WANT AN AGREEMENT LIKE THIS BUT IT ALSO FOCUSES US ON THE CONVERSATIONS LIKE WE'VE HAD AND JUST ABOUT EVERY PUBLIC COMMENTER HAS MENTIONED THE LAND USE. AND I THINK THE ATTORNEY AND OTHERS ARE HAVE JUST PAUSED AND GONE OH, MAN, WE ARE AT THE VERGE OFGOING SOMEWHERE WE COULE GOING WITH IT. I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE CONFLICT. AND THERE IS A MOTION TO DEFER ON THE TABLE AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THIS LAST THING. THE MAYOR -- MADE A COMMENT TWO YEARS AGO AND TOLD THE WHOLE CROWD AT UNITED, HEY, I'M GOING TO BUILD YOU A STADIUM AND WHEN IT CAME TIME FOR THE VOTE TO BE TAKEN, HE WAS NOWHERE TO BE FOUND AND RECENTLY THE MAYOR SAID THIS IS GOING HAPPEN. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A STADIUM, AND THEN -- AND THEN HE SAYS -- TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND THEN SAYS IT'S OUT OF MY HANDS. AND SO IT'S IN OUR HANDS. WE ARE DEALING WITH THIS. AND I THINK YOU KNOW, IT'S UP TO THIS COUNCIL TO DECIDE ON THE RIGHT AND PROPER WAY TO DECIDE ON GOING ABOUT THIS IN A WAY THAT IS HONORING THE TEAM AND HONORING THE CITY AND HONORING THE TAXPAYERS. BUT I FIND IT INTERESTING THAT THE MAYOR EVEN AT THIS TIME KIND OF WASHED HIS HANDS OF THIS AND SAID MY PART IS DONE. THAT'S IT, MR. PRESIDENT, THANK YOU. >> WE HAVE THREE OTHER COUNCILORS ON THE MOTION FOR DEFERRAL, WE ARE GOING GO TO COUNCILOR JONES ON ZOOM AND THEN BACK -- COUNCILOR JONES ARE YOU WITH US ON ZOOM? >> I AM, I AM NOT ON VIDEO BUT I CAN TALK REALLY WELL. >> WE HEAR YA, GO FOR IT! >> GOOD, THIS HAS BEEN A VERY, VERY INTERESTING DISCUSSION AND I THINK HAVING BEEN ON THE COUNCIL FOR MORE THAN A COUPLE OF YEARS, THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHENEVER THE CITY LOOKS AT DOING SOMETHING BIG. IT HAPPENED WHEN WE TRIED TO REMODEL THE CONVENTION CENTER DOWNTOWN AND IT HAPPEN WHD WE TRIED TO DO A REMODEL AND BRING INTO THE MODERN DAY THE PLAYING FIELDS FOR OUR BASEBALL TEAM. AND IT WILL CONTINUE TO HAPPEN BECAUSE THAT IS THE WAY IT IS. WE ARE ALL SUPPOSED TO QUESTION AND DIG IN AND MAKE SURE WE GET THE BEST DEAL THAT WE CAN. BUT I DO WANT TO ASSURE THAT PEOPLE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THIS AREA. THIS IS A GREAT AREA OF TOWN AND IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT WILL ONLY ADD TO THE AREA OF TOWN TO INCLUDE HELPING WITH THE BALLOON FIESTA. THEY CAN WORK TOGETHER. THIS IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS TO BRING US INTO THE BIG LEAGUES WITH ONE MORE STORE ON OUR LITTLE PIECE OF PAPER THAT WE ARE DOING WELL. I THINK WE NEED TO WORK VERY HARD -- FIRST OF ALL, IT WOULD BEHOOVE US TO GET THIS IN FRONT OF CITY ATTORNEYS AND LEGAL AND SEE WHERE WE ARE GOING WITH IT AND WHAT'S HAPPENING AND TRY TO HAMMER OUT AN AGREEMENT THAT WE COULD AGREE TO. WHICH MEANS THAT WE AS A COUNCIL NEED TO SAY YAY OR NAY ON WHETHER WE WANT TO DO THIS AND HOW MUCH INFLUENCE WE WANT IN IT. THIS IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT WOULD BE A GAME CHANGER FOR THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE AND IT WOULD BE VERY NICE. I AM ALL IN FAVOR OF IT. OBVIOUSLY WITH OUR WATCHING AND CHECKS AND BALANCES TO MAKE SURE WE ARE DOING IT CORRECTLY, BUT THIS COULD BE A REAL BENEFIT TO THE CITY AND PUT US UP THERE ONE NOTCH HIGHER IN THE APPROVAL RATING FOR PEOPLE WHO MIGHT WANT TO LOCATE THEIR BUSINESSES HERE. WHICH I KNOW SOME OF US DON'T WANT TO HAVE HAPPEN BUT THAT IS WHAT MAKE AS CITY GROW. IF WE DON'T GROW, WE ARE GOING THE OTHER DIRECTION AND I THINK THAT IS NOT WHERE WE NEED TO BE. IT'S A WONDERFUL PLACE. SO I WILL SUPPORT THIS. I WILL BE VERY PARTICULAR ABOUT THE CHECKS AND BALANCES PUT IN THE AGREEMENT BUT I CERTAINLY THINK THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE MOVED FORWARD AND I WOULD BACK THAT 10 #%. 0%, THANKYOU, MR. PRESIDENT. >> THANK YOU, AND NEXT UP WE'LL HAVE COUNCILOR BENTON -- >> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT, I TOO REALLY LIKE THE IDEA OF A STADIUM BUT THERE ARE SO MANY QUESTIONS THAT I'M NOT ALLOWED TO EVEN ASK RIGHT NOW BECAUSE IT'S GOING GO BEFORE EPC. AND WE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR A LOT OF MONEY HERE. AND TO NOT BE ABLE TO ANSWER A FEWQUESTIONS DOES BOTHER ME, BUI HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT WHAT WE GET FOR $13.5 MILLION, AND THAT IS ALSO TAXPAYER MONEY IF IT'S STATE MONEY, IS THAT CORRECT? >> YES, STATE MONEY IS TAXPAYER MONEY, ALLOCATED BY THE LEGISLATURE FOR THE PURPOSE OF MAKING IMPROVEMENTS TO THE PARK. TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION SPECIFICALLY, I WILL DEFER TO MR. SIMON WHO WILL TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT THE PARK NEEDS AND SOME OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT -- AND THE FUNDS AND HOW THEY WILL BE USED FOR THAT. >> MR. SIMON COME AND GIVE US THE TOP LINE. >> MR. PRESIDENT AND MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, WE HAD SUCH AN AWESOME BALLOON FIESTA THIS YEAR THAT I FORGOT TO TAKE OFF MY FIESTA GARB AND WE SHOULD ALL BE CELEBRATING. IF YOU DID NOT GET BALLOON PIN, COME AND SEE HIM. I WILL SAY THIS ABOUT THE INVESTMENT ASSOCIATED WITH THE LEASE BECAUSE I THINK THAT IS THE TOPIC. AND COROLLARY CITY INVESTMENTS THAT SORT OF TIE TO IT. I THINK I WOULD PROBABLY CHARACTERIZE IT BY SAYING WITH THE EXCEPTION OF PUTTING DOWN THE ACTUAL GRASS ON WHAT WAS A GIANT DIRT LIGHT THE CITY'S INVESTMENT WILL BE THE MOST POSITIVE CATALYTIC IMPACT ON THE FEAST AFTER AND THE PARK IN THE HISTORY OF THE PARK AND THE FIESTA. BECAUSE IT WILL ENABLE US TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE LARGEST LONG-NEEDED AND IN A SENSE DEFERRED INVESTMENTS TO SUSTAIN THE PARK AND THE CROWDS IT DRAWS DURING THE FIESTA AND REALLY YEAR ROUND. IN ANSWER FOR YOUR QUESTION, MR. PRESIDENT AND COUNCILOR GROUT, T LEADING NEEDS ARE BASIC INFRASTRUCTURE AT THE PARK AND THAT MEANS ENHANCING THE ELECTRICAL SYSTEM, THE WATER SYSTEM, THE TELECOMMUNICATIONS SYSTEM, THE SEWER SYSTEM. AND ON TOP OF THAT, MANY ASPECTS OF THE INVESTMENTS THAT THE CITY WOULD CONTEMPLATE THERE WOULD MAKE THE PARK MORE ACCESSIBLE FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE A PHYSICAL CHALLENGE MOVING AROUND AND THOSE ARE THE BIG CATEGORIES OF WHERE CITY INVESTMENTS WOULD GO. >> THANK YOU, SO ARE WE GOING TO BE BUILDING -- YOU SAID SEWER. ARE WE GOING TO BE BUILDING RUST RESTROOMS? >> WELL, ANYONE WHO WAS AT FIESTA THIS YEAR WE PUT OUT MORE RESTROOM FACILITIES THAN EVER BEFORE, INCLUDING CITY-OWNED TRAILERS, NICER SPOTS MUCH MORE POPULAR THAN THE PORTABLES BUT THERE IS JUST A COMPELLING STRONG NEEDS FOR RESTROOMS, PERMANENT FLUSHABLE RESTROOMS AND IF YOU'RE A PARENT AND YOU EVER TRIED TO CHANGE YOUR CHILD'S DIAPERS AT FIESTA, YOU KNOW THAT AN IN-DOOR HEATED AREA WOULD BE WELCOMED. SO YES, RESTROOMS AND I DON'T WANT TO TALK TOO MUCH ABOUT THE DESIGN OF A STADIUM, THAT IS NOT THE TOPIC TODAY, BUT THERE WOULD BE RESTROOM FACILITIES DIRECTLY IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE STADIUM AS WELL WITH THE CITY COULD CONTEMPLATE ADDING? >> AND IS $13.5 MILLION THE ONLY AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT IS GOING TO BE SPENT OF STATE MONEY OR ARE WE GOING TO ASK FOR MORE STATE MONEY, WHICH IS ALSO TAXPAYER MONEY? >> MR. PRESIDENT AND COUNCILOR GROUT, YOU KNOW, INVESTMENTED IN THE BALLOON FIESTA PARK THEY ARE A STANDARD ANNUAL REQUEST THAT THE CITY DOES MAKE, BUT THEY ALSO GO FOR A WIDER VARIETY OF NEEDS AT THE PARK. IT'S A 360 -- EXCUSE ME, A 380-ACRE PARK. SO I WOULD SAY I WOULD DEFER TO THE CFO WHERE IN AREAS WE WOULD BE LOOKING FOR HELP TO TAKE CARE OF AND IMPROVEMENT LOCATION THAT HOSTS THE LARGEST ANNUAL EVENT IN OUR STATE. AND THIS YEAR OF COURSE PUT US ON AN INTERNATIONAL STAGE WITH THE THING THAT THE SUN AND THE MOON DID. SO WE ARE ALWAYS GOING TO NEED TO INVEST IN THE PARK GOES FORWARD, BUT IF THE CFO WANTED TO COMMENT ON OUR FURTHER EFFORTS TO REQUEST FUNDING FOR THE PARK I'M SURE HE -- >> YEAH, BRIEFLY. >> THANK YOU. >> MR. PRESIDENT, AND COUNCILOR GROUT, I PASS ON IT EARLIER AND YOU BROUGHT UP THE QUESTION AGAIN ABOUT INFRASTRUCTURE. WHAT IS A BIT SAFE FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE. SO WHEN YOU ASK SPECIFICALLY WHAT IS HAPPENING FOR INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS I'M ASSUMING THE CITY HAS PUT OUT BIDS IN ORDER TO FIND OUT WHAT STUFF IS GOING TO COST FOR WHATEVER. AND MR. PRESIDENT YOU SAID TOP-LINE ITEMS, I WANT TO KNOW SPECIFIC ITEMS SO WE CAN BE GUARANTEED THAT $13.5 IS GOING TO COVER THE COST, OTHERWISE, AN THE HOOK FOR IF THINGS GO ABOVE AND BEYOND AND WE STILL HAVE A LEASE AGREEMENT AND WE SAID YES AND WE ARE OBLIGATED TO PAY FOR THIS WHOLE INFRASTRUCTURE -- >> WE ARE ON THE MOTION FOR DEFERRAL, BUT I'M GOING GO TO -- >> MR. PRESIDENT AND COUNCILOR R BASSAN, WE HAVE CONTRACTED OUT ON THE INFRASTRUCTURE. I DON'T HAVE DEFINITIVE NUMBERS FOR YOU AS IT RELATES TO THE ACTUAL COST BUT AS THIS PROGRESSING THROUGH THE PROCESS, OBVIOUSLY THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT IS NECESSARY FOR THE FACILITY ITSELF -- AND KEEP IN MIND, THE APPROPRIATION FROM THE LEGISLATURE IS TO SUPPORT THE INVESTMENT IN THE PARK AND THE ABILITY TO CREATE IF YOU WILL A PAD-READY SITE FOR A FACILITY OF THIS NATURE. SO I DON'T HAVE THOSE SPECIFIC NUMBERS FOR YOU. >> MR. PRESIDENT, THANK YOU, MR. RAUL, YET WE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE AGREES TO SOMETHING WITHOUT THE NUMBERS, IF IT'S 13.5 MILLION, THAT IS CONCERNED. >> I'M GOING GO BACK TO COUNCILOR GROUT. >> AND NOW WE ARE UP TO 90 MILLION, AND THAT IS WHY WE ARE ASKING SPIRVEGS. SPECIFICS.AND THIS IS A BIG DEA. I'M EXCITED ABOUT A STADIUM, I THINK IT WOULD BE GREAT BUT WE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE IN CHARGE OF THE NUMBERS AND ASKING THE QUESTIONS AND WHEN WE DON'T HAVE ALL OF THE NUMBERS IT'S HARD TO MOVE AHEAD WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE ALL OF THE ANSWERS AND THERE'S A LOT OF QUESTIONS WE CAN ASK. I WANT TO GO BACK TO THE BALLOON FIESTA ORDINANCE AND THE COMMISSION, AND, YES, IT IS TO REVIEW AND MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS ABOUT THE APPROVAL OR DENIAL OF AGREEMENTS WITH LONG-TERM PARK TENANTS. LET ME TELL YOU AND YOU PROBABLY KNOW, BUT THE BALLOON FIESTA PARK COMMISSION IS MADE UP OF REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS THE WILD FLOWER AND THE ALAMEDA NORTH AND SANDIA PUEBLO AND BUSINESSES AND OTHERS. THESE ARE REALLY IMPORTANT CONSTITUENTS TO BE ASKING TO WEIGH IN. I WANT TO ASK THE LADY IN THE AUDIENCE, HAVE YOU HEARD FROM THE CITY -- HAS THE CITY REACHED OUT TO THE WILD FLOWER NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION? >> THE ONLY THING I CAN SAY IS I KNOW THAT THE [INAUDIBLE] NOBODY IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD -- [INAUDIBLE] >> THAT CONCERNS ME. >> I'M FROM THE -- [INAUDIBLE] >> MA'AM, HOLD ON JUST A MINUTE, HOLD ON, WE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO DO THAT. SO WE ARE GOING TO COME BACK UP -- >> I'M SORRY ABOUT THAT, BUT THIS BOTHERS ME THAT WE ARE GOING AROUND CONSTITUENTS AGAIN. IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND, WE DID THIS WITH THE GATEWAY AND WE HAD SOME COMPLETE BUY-INS AND I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO THAT SITUATION AGAIN. I THINK A STADIUM IS GREAT BUT WE NEED TO PROCESS OUR, IT'S AND DOT OUR I'S BEFORE WE SIGN ON TO SOMETHING. IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE ALL UNDERSTAND IT, THAT IS WHY I THINK A DEFERRAL IS ADVISABLE AT THIS TIME UNTIL I THINK SOME OF THESE LAND-USE ISSUES NEED TO BE RESOLVED. AND THEN WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT MORE, AND WE CAN BE UNDERSTANDING IT BETTER. >> COUNCILOR BENTON ON THE MOTION FOR DEFERRAL AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK AND TAKE THE VOTE AND SEE WHERE WE ARE. >> NOT BELABOR THE DEBATE, AND WHICH COMES FIRST THE CHICKEN OR THE EGG, BUT THIS BODY IS RESPONSIBLE FOR APPROVING A CONTRACT AND ASKING THE KINDS OF QUESTIONS WE ARE ASKING TONIGHT. LATER ON WE'LL BE SITTING AS -- IF IT WERE TO COME UP ON APPEAL I BELIEVE IS THE ONLY WAY THAT WOULD HAPPEN -- WE WOULD BE SITTING AS A LAND USE AUTHORITY WITH THE ULTIMATE DECISION ON THAT, SO IT PUTS US IN THAT POSITION AND SO I DO WANT TO SPEAK ON THE MOTION FOR DEFERRAL AT THIS TIME IS. TYPICALLY IN A REAL ESTATE TRANSACTION YOU HAVE AN OWNER AND A BUYER OR A LESSOR AND A LESSEE WHO HAVE TO AGREE ON SOMETHING BEFORE THEY GO THROUGH THE TROUBLE OF GOING THROUGH A ZONE CHANGE OR A LAND-USE PROCESS IN ORDER FOR THEIR DEAL TO BE CONSUMMATED. SO WE ARE REALLY IN PRACTICAL TERMS WE ARE AT THAT POINT RIGHT NOW WHERE WE WANT TO DECIDE AS THE OWNER WHETHER WE THINK THIS WOULD BE A GOOD DEAL WITH THIS LESSEE. I HAVE THAT RIGHT? LESSEE. >> THE TENANT. >> ANYWAY, I WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT BUT I DON'T KNOW THE TERMS. BUT YES, IN ORDER FOR US TO BE WILLING PARTNERS WHICH WE WOULD BE WITH THE TEAM ON THIS DEAL, WE NEED TO DECIDE WELL DO, WE LIKE THE DEAL OR NOT? SO I THINK THE QUESTION AND THE QUESTION THAT MANY OF US WOULD LIKE TO KNOW ABOUT WELL, WHAT ARE THE IMPACTS ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND SO FORTH, THAT IS EVEN MORE INTERESTING IS THE NEIGHBORHOOD -- AS PARTIES OF THE RECOMMENDING BOARD FOR THE [INAUDIBLE] BUT I THINK THAT WE NEED TO KEEP THAT IN MIND. BUT I DO THINK THAT THE DEAL ITSELF, THE NUMBERS WE ARE TALKING ABOUT AND QUESTIONING, WE NEED TO BE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT FOR THIS -- FOR THE LAND LAND-USE DISCUSSION TO GO FORWARD. WE HAVE TO PUT THE HORSE BEFORE THE CART AND THEN CONSIDER THAT SECOND PART WITH THE LAND-USE MATTER LATER. AND IF PROBLEMS ARISE AND IT COMES TO US ON APPEAL, WE'LL WEIGH IN ON THAT AT THAT TIME. WE ARE INTO THAT UNUSUAL SITUATION WEARING BOTH HATS POTENTIALLY ON [INAUDIBLE] >> MR. PRESIDENT. >> THANK YOU, COUNCILOR -- >> I WANT TO RESPOND. >> QUICKLY AND THEN I WANT TO GO TO THE VOTE. >> YES, SIR, I AGREE VERY MUCH WITH WHAT YOU SAID, I DO NOT FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH THIS AGREEMENT BECAUSE I'M BEING TOLD REPEATEDLY BY OUR ATTORNEY THAT I'M NOT ALLOWED TO ASK THE QUESTIONS I HAVE, BECAUSE ALTHOUGH THEY ARE A PART OF THE LEASE AGREEMENT THEY CANNOT BE ASKED BECAUSE THEY ARE ALSO POTENTIALLY LINKED TO LAND-USE MATTERS. SO ME THAT IS EXACTLY THE POINT. WE HAVE PEOPLE SAYING I'M LIMITED ON THE NUMBER OF QUESTIONS I CAN ASK TO GET TO THE POINT WHERE I DO FEEL COMFORTABLE VOTING. >> AND THAT MAKES SENSE TO ME AND WE'LL COME BACK IF WE DON'T DEFER -- THE MATTER OF DEFERRAL IS ABOUT PROCESS. EVERYBODY TALKED ABOUT THIS AND I THINK I AGREE WITH COUNCILORS LEWIS AND JONES AND BENTON, WE ARE IN THE PHASE AND FRANKLY IT MAKES NO SENSE TO GO TO EPC IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT SITE YOU HAVE, WHAT AUTHORITY YOU HAVE TO MAKE THOSE DECISIONS AND MAKE THOSE THINGS. AND THIS IS ABOUT PROCESS. IF WE APPROVE THIS LEASE TONIGHT, IT ALLOWS THE TENANT IN THIS CASE, THEIR OBLIGATION TO GO TO EPC AND MAKE THEIR BEST CASE ABOUT WHAT ZONE CHANGES NEED TO BE ADJUSTED FOR THEIR PLAN. THEY'VE GOT TO ENGAGE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD BUT THEY ARE NOT ALLOWED TO DO THAT RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THERE IS NOTHING TO TALK ABOUT. ALL OF THESE CONCERNS ARE WELL PLACED BUT EVERYONE'S CONCERNS TO START THE PROCESS AND I APPRECIATE THAT ADMINISTRATION HAS WEIGHED IN AND HEARD OUR CONCERNS THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS TO BE SURE THERE ARE TRIGGERS IF THIS CONTRACT GOES AWAY, AND IF THEY ARE NOT ABLE TO ACHIEVE ZONING AND CERTAIN BENCHMARKS, ALL OF THOSE TRIGGERS AND ALL OF THAT EVENTUALLY COMES BACK TO THE CITY COUNCIL, WHOEVER IS SITTING HERE, ON LAND USE MODIFICATION AND ADDITIONAL -- IF THE REGULATORS GIVE THEM MORE MONEY, THAT HAS TO COME BACK TO THE CITY AND WE HAVE TO ACCEPT IT, THERE ARE ABOUT SEIVE OTHERR WAYS TO WEIGH IT BUT WE HAVE TO SET A STAKE AND GET IT STARTED AND SO I THINK THE QUESTION IS DOES THIS MAKE SENSE FOR TAXPAYERS. I THINK IT MAKES SENSE TO MOVE FORWARD, SO I WILL BE OPPOSING THE MOTION ON DEFERRAL. ON A MOTION TO DEFERRAL TO 90 DAYS, JANUARY 22, RIGHT? >> BESSEN. >> YES. >> BENTON. >> YES. >> COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >> NO. >> COUNCILOR GROUT. >> YES. >> COUNCILOR JONES. >> NO. >> COUNSELOR LEWIS. >> YES. >> COUNCILOR PEÑA. >> YES. >> COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. >> YES. >> THANK YOU. >> COUNCILOR DAVIS. >> NO. >> IT PASSES ON A 5-4 VOTE. >> THAT IS DEFERRED TO OUR JUNE 22ND MEETING. MY COLLEAGUING ARE GOING TO KILL ME IF THEY DON'T GET A DINNER BREAK, SO WE WILL BE COMING BACK AT 9:45 AND PICK UP OUR AGENDA WHERE WE LEFT OFF. >> OKAY, FOLK, WE ARE GOING TO COME BACK IN. GIVING YOU A 15-SECOND WARNING HERE. FOR THE RECORD, WE HAVE WUL WE F OUR COUNCILORS PRESENT OR IN THE ROOM, AND BEFORE WE MOVE ON, COUNCILOR LEWIS HAS A MOTION -- >> I WOULD TO MOVE THE RECONSIDERATION OF EC-23-375. >> THE MOTION SO RECONSIDER IS ON THE FLOOR AND THIS MEANS IF TWO-THIRDS OF THE COUNCILORS ARL FIGURE OUT WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO. >> MR. PRESIDENT, I HAVE SEVERAL QUESTIONS BEFORE WE VOTE ON THE MOTION TO RECONSIDER. >> ON THE FLOOR VOTE, GO AHEAD. >> I MEAN, I DON'T FEEL -- THIS IS A SHAME. >> IF WE RECONSIDER AND IT SAYS YES, IT WILL BE BACK ON THE BILL AND WE CAN VOTE. >> OKAY. WE DON'T HAVE AN ITEM ON THE FLOOR -- >> SO I AM -- I DO WANT TO RECONSIDER AND I'M GOING TO MOVE A -- JUST SO EVERYBODY KNOWS I'LL MOVE A 30-DAY REFERRAL INSTEAD OF 90. >> AND ASSUMING THAT PASSES, I WOULD SECOND THAT. COUNCILORS THERE IS A MOTION ON THE FLOOR FOR A RECONSIDERATION ON A 30-DAY DEFERRAL. >> COUNCILOR -- >> NO. >> COUNCILOR. >> COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >> YES. >> COUNCIL MEMBER GROUT. >> NO. >> COUNCILOR JONES. >> NO. >> COUNCILOR LEWIS. >> YES. >> COUNCILOR PEÑA. >> YES. >> COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. >> NO. >> COUNCILOR DAVIS. >> YES. >> I BELIEVE THAT FAILED ON A 5-3 VOTE. OH, I'M ASSOCIATION IT WAS THE MAJORITY, IT DOES PASS ON A 5-4 VOTE. >> SO THE MOTION TO RECONSIDER HAS PASSED AND WE ARE BACK ON THE ORIGINAL BILL WITHOUT A MOTION, IS THERE A MOTION COUNCILOR LEWIS AND THEN WE'LL BE ABLE TO -- >> UM, DID THE RECONSIDER PASS? >> IT DID. >> GOTCHA, SO I -- A MOTION AND I'LL SECOND IT FOR A 30-DAY DEFERRAL, WHICH TAKES US TO OUR FIRST MEETING IN NOVEMBER, THE 21 OR 22ND. SOMETHING LIKE THAT. >> IT'S THE 20TH OF NOVEMBER. >> COUNCILOR BASSAN. >> GREAT, LET'S TALK. MR. PRESIDENT, NOW THAT ALL OF THE PUBLIC PEOPLE WHO WERE HERE WENT HOME, UNDERSTANDING THAT WE HAVE AN AGREEMENT THAT WE DECIDED ON, NOW THEY ARE GOING TO WAKE UP TOMORROW AND FIND THINGS HAVE CHANGED WHICH DIE I DOFINAL SHAMEFUL AND I THINK E SHOULD HAVE ANSWERS TO OUR QUESTION BEFORE WE VOTE. WHO IS THE GUARANTOR OF THE LEASE? >> I'M SORRY, I WAS LOOKING FOR THE BILL. >> MR. RAUL, WHO IS THE GUARANTOR OF THE LEASE? >> OF THE LEASE? >> YES, SIR. >> IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, THE LEASE IS GUARANTEED IF YOU WILL FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF THE FIELD, THE CITY COULD GUARANTEE THE LEASE AND THE TEAM WOULD GUARANTEE THE PROVISIONS IN THE LEASE. >> MR. PRESIDENT, WHAT IS THE SCOPE OF THE GRANT FOR INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS COMING FROM THE STATE? >> MR. PRESIDENT AND COUNCILOR COUNCILBASSAN, THE APPROPRIATIOE IN THREE DIFFERENT TRONCHS. THE FIRST IS 4.5 MILLION FOR INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS AT BALLOON FIESTA PARK. >> AND SORRY, MR. PRESIDENT, MR. REAL IS THAT LITERALLY THE FULL QUOTE OF THAT FROM THE STATE GRANT? I DON'T WANT JUST AN UMBRELLA. I WOULD LIKE FOR KNOW WHAT THE SPECIFIC SCOPE OF WORK IS COMING FROM THE THREE GRANTS FOR INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS. >> MR. PRESIDENT AND COUNCILOR GROUT, I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT LANGUAGE, AND MR. MO SCO PROBABLY CAN ATTEST TO THE NUMBERS AND SCOPE BECAUSE HE DID THE WORK ON THAT BEFORE, BUT IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE 4.5 MILLION IS FOR INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS AT BALLOON FIESTA PARK. MR. MOSCO -- >> MR. PRESIDENT AND COUNCILOR BASSAN YES. >> WELL, WHILE HE PULLS THAT UP -- I GUESS THE RELEVANCE OF MY QUESTION IS WHEN WE LOOKED AT BUYING THE GATEWAY CENTER WE WERE TOLD STATES FUNDS WOULD HELP US. THAT FOR SOMETHING LIKE 14.5 MILLION AND HERE WE ARE OVER 100 MILLION LATER, WITH LITTLE TO SHOW FOR IT ALTHOUGH I UNDERSTAND IT IS A CITY FACILITY, USING CITY AND STATE FUNDING FOR CITY BUSINESS AND THIS IS DIFFERENT BECAUSE THERE IS A PRIVATE ENTITY COMING IN, IT SAYS WE ARE ON THE HOOK FOR PROVIDING INFRASTRUCTURE-READY SITE AND FOR ME WHERE IS THE BID FOR THAT. IS 13.5 ENOUGH? WHERE IS THE MONEY GOING TO COME FROM IF WE GO ABOVE AND BEYOND THAT. ARE WE JUST GOING TO START ANOTHER GATEWAY? BECAUSE THAT IS MY BIG CONCERN. >> MR. PRESIDENT AND COUNCILOR BASSAN, THE MONEY THAT HAS BEEN ALLOCATED BY THE STATE FOR INVESTMENT IN THE PARK WE'VE BEEN VERY CLEAR THAT WE ARE NOT PUTTING ANY CITY FUNDS INTO INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS IN THE PARK OTHER THAN THOSE APPROPRIATED BY THE LEGISLATURE. THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND THE COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH IMRUFER IMPROVEO THE PARK ARE BEING REVIEWED AS I SAID TO YOU EARLIER BUT BY SOME REASONABLENESS OR UNREASONABLENESS IF IT'S MORE THAN WHAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE THEN THE TEAM IS RESPONSIBLE FOR BUILDING THE FACILITY. >> BUT I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THE FACILITY, I'M TALKING ABOUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT THE CITY IS RESPONSIBLE FOR. >> THAT IS MY POINT, THAT IS THE WATER AND SEWER -- WE HAVE 13.5 MILLION TO BUILD THAT. IN THE FUNDING FROM THE LEGISLATURE. I AM EXTREMELY CONFIDENT THAT THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE A $13.5 MILLION INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECT, AS FAR AS WE KNOW IN TERMS OF THE COASTS ASSOCIATED FOR THE SITE THAT HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED. >> MR. REAL AND MR. PRESIDENT, SO HOW AS FAR AS YOU KNOW FOR THE COSTS HOW DO YOU KNOW THOSE COSTS? >> WE HAVE LOOKED AT THE SITE AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE AT THE SITE, THE WATER AND SEWER LINES ARE AT STREET LEVEL ALONG THE TWO MAIN ACCESS POINTS TO THE PARK AND IT'S MOVING THEM 200, 300 FEET AND WILL IS JUST NOT GOING TO BE AN OVERRUN AND REMEMBER THAT THE FUNDING IS ALL FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE. THE PAD-READY SITE IS SIMPLY LEVELING THE DIRT SO THE SITE CAN BE BUILT. >> I GUESS I'M MISSING SOMETHING AND PLEASE, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT WHEN WE ASKED REPEATEDLY TONIGHT WHAT IS -- AND I SPECIFICALLY SAID WHAT IS DOES THE INFRASTRUCTURE INCLUDE? NOW IS THAT JUST WATER LINES AND IS THAT WHAT THE INFRASTRUCTURE S BECAUSE I AGREE THAT IS PROBABLY $13.5 MILLION OR LESS, BUT TO ME -- AND THIS IS WHERE THE LEASE IS A LITTLE VAGUE -- WHAT IS THE INFRASTRUCTURE? WHAT DOES IT INCLUDE? LIGHTING ELECTRICITY WATER SEWER -- OF ALL OF THESE THINGS -- AND I'M NOT JUST TALKING ABOUT THE SITE PAD, BUT INFRASTRUCTURE. >> I UNDERSTAND COUNCILOR BASSAN AND COUNCILORS. THE COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE SITE ARE THE WATER AND SEWER LINES AND THE ELECTRICITY, THE SERVICE FOR BALLOON FIESTA PARK. THAT WHAT THE INFRASTRUCTURE INCLUDES AND IT INCLUDES A LEVELING OF THE PAD IF YOU WILL FOR THE ACTUAL FACILITY TO BE CONSTRUCTED ON A 7-ACRE SITE. >> OKAY, AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IS ABUNDANTLY CLEAR THAT AT FIRST IT WAS WATER AND SEWER AND NOW IT'S WATER AND SEWER AND ELECTRICITY AND LEVELING THE PAD -- THAT IS MY POINT, THERE IS NO WRITTEN DOCUMENTS SPECIFICKED THAT WE HAVE SEEN AS A FIDUCIARY AGENT FOR THE VOTERS AND TAXPAYERS WHEN IT COMES TO THIS. BUT I WILL MOVE ON. WHAT IS THE LIKELIHOOD OF THE TENANT BECOMING FIRM ON THE DEAL? >> MR. PRESIDENT AND COUNCILOR BASSAN, THERE IS A PROVISION IN THE AGREEMENT THAT THE TENANT, I.E., WILL HAVE CAUSE WITHIN NINE MONTHS AFTER THE APPROVAL OF THE LEAST OR THE EXHAUSTION OF THE APPEALS THAT THEY MUST START CONSTRUCTION OF THE SITE. >> OKAY, BUT -- OKAY. MR. PRESIDENT, MR. REAL, SO IF THE CITY BEGINS THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND BEGINNING ALL OF THOSE IMPROVEMENTS THAT I BELIEVE -- AND I WOULD STILL LIKE CLARIFICATION ON THE SPECIFICS ON THE SCOPE, IT'S DIRECTLY HINGED ON THE STADIUM BUT IF FOR SOME REASON THE STADIUM CANNOT MOVER MATAGORDA MOVE FORWARD ONTHEIR END OF THEE CITY HAVE TO PAY BACK THE STATE ON THE GRANT MONEY BEGUN TO BE USED FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS. >> NO, MR. PRESIDENT AND COUNCILOR BASSAN, WE WILL NOT START UNDER THE LAND USE HAS BEEN EXUSED AND WE HAVE 60 DAYS TO START THAT CONSTRUCTION. THE 4.5 IS AVAILABLE AND WE CAN START TODAY BECAUSE THAT IS AVAILABLE DIRECTLY FOR INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE PARK. THE OTHER FUNDS THAT ARE AVAILABLE WHICH WAS -- LET ME LOOK AT MY MAP HERE REAL QUICK, BUT THE ADDITIONAL FUNDS OF 5 MILLION AND 4 MILLION ARE DIRECTLY RELATED TO -- TO THE FACILITY IN THE WAY THEY WERE APPROVED BY THE LEGISLATURE. HOWEVER, THOSE FUNDS WILL NOT BE EXPENDED UNTIL THE TEAM HAS SECURED THEIR FUNDING AND MOVE FORWARD WITH THEIR PORTION OF THE PROJECT. >> OKAY. OKAY. MR. PRESIDENT, MR. REAL, HOW WAS THAT ESTABLISHED IN HOW WAS 35,000 ESTABLISHED? >> THE 35,000 WAS ESTABLISHED BEFORE WE REVIEWED THE -- ACQUISITION THAT THE CITY MADE SEVERAL YEARS AGO, A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT IS CLOSE ENOUGH TO THE BALLOON FIESTA PARK ON THE NORTH END. THAT APPRAISAL CAME IN AT ABOUT 5.50 A SQUARE FOOT. WE REVIEWED THAT FIGURE AND THEN REVIEWED THE COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH BUILDING ON A CITY-OWNED FACILITY THAT IS VERY MUCH LIMITED BECAUSE OF THE LAND USE IF YOU WILL THAT WOULD HAVE OTHERWISE COMPROMISED ITS HIGHEST AND BEST VALUE. AS YOU KNOW THE LAND USE MASTER PLAN DOES NOT PROHIBIT ANY OUTDOOR FACILITY TO BE BUILT ON THIS -- >> WHAT WAS THAT? I'M SORRY, I MISSED IT. >> IN OTHER WORDS, THE LAND USE PLAN DOES NOT PERMIT ANY OTHER FACILITY TO BE BUILT ON THE SITE UNLESS YOU GO THROUGH THIS PUBLIC HEARING THAT WE ARE ABOUT TO EMBARK ON WITH EPC. WE DISCOUNTED THE VALUE OF THE LAND BECAUSE ITS HIGHEST AND BEST USE HAS BEEN NEGATED BECAUSE OF THE ZONING AND MASTER PLAN REQUIREMENTS ON THE SITE AND THE NUMBER CAME DOWN TO ABOUT 2.50 A SQUARE FOOT. WE NEGOTIATED FROM 2.50 A SQUARE FOOT AND ENDED UP WITH 1.50 A SQUARE FOOT BECAUSE THERE IS A LANDFILL ADJACENT TO THE SITE THAT FURTHER MAKE IT IS CHALLENGING FOR IF YOU WILL A PRIVATE ENTITY TO COME IN AND BUILD SOMETHING AT ITS HIGHEST AND BEST VALUE. SO THAT IS HOW WE DETERMINED THE VALUE OF THE LAND. >> THANK YOU. AND THEN WHY IS THE 2% INCREASE DISCRETIONARY? >> IT'S DISCRETIONARY UPON THE CITY AND IF THE CITY WOULD WANT AT ANY OCCASION TO INCREASE THAT, THAT COULD CERTAINLY HAPPEN. >> OKAY. AND I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT THIS EARLIER BUT I THINK IT'S WORTH REVISITING SINCE WE ARE REVISITING THE BILL. MR. PRESIDENT, WHAT IS THE ESTIMATED PARKING REVENUE PER YEAR? >> MR. PRESIDENT AND COUNCILORS, THE PLAN ITSELF AS IT'S BEEN SUBMITTED FOR REVIEW WITH EPC TALKS ABOUT 300 SPACES THAT WOULD BE AVAILABLE FOR LEASE AT A COST OF ABOUT $15 A SLOT IF YOU WILL. WE ESTIMATE THAT THE COST PER GAME AT $15 IS ABOUT -- IT WILL BE ABOUT $76,500 FOR THE CITY, 10% OF THE VALUE OF ALL OF THE PARKING. AND THAT IS WHAT WE AGREED TO IN THE DOCUMENT. JUST KEEP IN MIND THAT THE LAND ITSELF IS NOT BEING USED FOR ANY OTHER PURPOSE, AND THE RATIONALE WHETHER THE VALUE OF THE DEAL WOULD BE BETTER IF WE USED THE PARKING REVENUES TO AUGMENT THE COMPOSITION TO THE CITY THAN TO JUST USE SIMPLY THE VALUE OF THE SEVEN ACRES. SO IF THERE ARE MORE EVENTS OVER THE COURSE OF THE YEAR, IF THERE ARE MORE PARKING SPACED UTILIZED, THE CITY ALSO BENEFITS FROM THE INCREASED USE OF THE FACILITY AND THE INCREASED NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT CAME -- [INAUDIBLE] >> THANK YOU, AND MR. PRESIDENT HOW WAS 10 DAYS ESTABLISHED. >> THE ISOTOPES LEASE HAS A 10-DAY IF YOU WILL USE OF THE STADIUM FOR THE CITY'S PURPOSES. IT'S SEEN AS A REASONABLE NUMBER GIVEN THAT THIS IS NOT A CITY-OWNED FACILITY. IT IS A PRIVATELY OWNED FACILITY AND THAT'S WHAT WE AGREED TO IN THE CONVERSATION. >> THANK YOU. MR. PRESIDENT, MR. REAL, DOES THAT TEN DAYS COUNT BALLOON FIESTA OR IN ADDITION TO. >> IN ADDITION TO. >> BUT THAT IS NOT WRITTEN IN THE LEASE AGREEMENT. >> THE LEASE AGREEMENT SAYS THE FACILITY WILL NOT USE THE PROPERTY WITHIN TEN DAYS OF THE FIESTA. >> BUT DOES IT MEAN WE CANNOT USE IT. >> IT WAS LEFT OPEN-ENDED BUT THE BALLOON FIESTA WHEN WE MET INDICATED THEY MAY USE THE FACILITY, BUT THE TEN DAYS THEY ARE DARK DURING FIESTA IS NOT THE TEN DAYS THAT THE CITY WILL BE USING IT FOR. >> OKAY, MR. PRESIDENT AND MR. REAL, OPEN-ENDED IS MY PROBLEM WITH ALL OF THIS. THERE IS A THEME, BUT IT SAYS HERE THE TENANT DOESN'T HAVE TO PAY PROPERTY TAXES IN THE LEASE AND WHY DO THEY GET TO ESTABLISF I'M WRONG, BECAUSE I'M NOT IN COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE, AND I DIDN'T DO THIS BUT THE WAY I READ IT IS TENANT GETS TO ESTABLISH GRT AND COMPENSATING TAX ACCORDING TO ARTICLE 7. >> LET ME LOOK AT THAT ARTICLE, BUT I DON'T BELIEVE THAT IS WHAT IS MEANT IN TERMS OF THE -- BECAUSE THE GRT IS SET BY THE STATE AND THE CITY AND NOT BY THE TENANT. IT SAYS THE TENANT SHALL HAVE THE EXCLUSIVE OBLIGATION TO DETERMINE ALL APPLICABLE TAXES TO WHICH IT IS SUBJECT -- THAT JUST MEANING THEY WILL PAY WHATEVER THE TAXES ARE THAT ARE REQUIRED DOING BUSINESS IN THE STATE OF NEW MEXICO. >> OKAY, SO THEY DON'T GET TO ESTABLISH IT. >> NO. >> OKAY. SO IS THE CITY GOING TO BE THE ONE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT SLAB READY AND COMPACTING THE SITE? >> MR. PRESIDENT, AND COUNCILOR BASSAN, IT WILL BE LEVEL, SO A PAD-READY SITE. >> BUT COMPACTING SPECIFICALLY? >> IT MAY REQUIRE COMPACTING. >> IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING MR. PRESIDENT AND MR. REAL, WHEN YOU HAVE A SITE THAT NEEDS COMPACTION, GIFERRING OTHER GIVS I'M UNDERGOING, IF THAT IS NOT DONE CORRECTLY AND THE STADIUM IS BUILT ON THAT SITE, WHO IS LIABLE IF SOMETHING IS NOT COMPACTED RIGHT AND WE ARE THE ONES THAT DID IT? >> MR. PRESIDENT, IN THAT INSTANCE, THE CITY HAS RUN TESTS ON THE SIDE AND TO MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE COMPACTING IN ORDER TO GIVER THE TENANTS A PAD-READY SITE. BUT IN ALL OF -- IN TRAN AC TRAS IN REAL ESTATE, THE TENANT ASSUMES THE LIABILITY TO BUILD ON THAT SITE. IF IT DOESN'T MEET THEIR REQUIREMENTS WE COMPACT IT UNTIL IT DOES. THAT IS A REAL-ESTATE REQUIREMENT BUT THAT WOULD BE AN ISSUE AT THE TIME OF CONSTRUCTION. >> OKAY, AND MR. PRESIDENT, I GUESS MR. REAL, MY QUESTION IS DOES "SLAB READY" INCLUDE COMPASSION, AND WHEN YOU SAY SLAB READY, I PICTURE CONCRETE AND IT'S LEVEL, AND YOU HAVE A FOUNDATION. >> NO, THAT IS -- >> DOES THAT MEAN THAT THE DIRT IS COMPACTED SO SOMEONE ELSE CAN COME IN AND PUT A SLAB -- IS THAT WHAT SLAB-READY MEANS. >> THE LANGUAGE IN THE LEASE IS SITE READY, NOT SLAB. >> BUT THAT WORD HAS BEEN THROWN AROUND TONIGHT, TOO. >> IT SIMPLY MEANS A SITE-READY PAD, A PIECE OF LAND THAT HAS BEEN LEVELED AND COMPACTED AND READY TO BUILT. >> AND COMPACTED. >> AND COMPACTED. >> I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT. OKAY, SO MR. PRESIDENT, GOING BACK TO THE SCOPES OF THINGS. DID WE FIND OUT WHAT THE SCOPE IS FOR THE THREE STATE GRANTS AND DO WE HAVE A SCOPE FOR I BELIEVE THE QUOTE IS BUILD-READY PAD, NOT SITE OR SLOPE, WITH YOU BUILD-READY BECAUSE I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO INCLUDE THAT IN THE LEASE AGREEMENT. WHAT DOES THAT SEMANTIC MEAN. I COULD DEFINE IT ONE WAY AND I AM, BUT WHERE DOES IT FALL LEGALLY, OR MR. MORO, SORRY, FOR THAT UNDERSTANDING OF THAT TERM? SO I GUESS THAT IS MULTIPLE QUESTIONS RIGHT? WHAT DOES BUILD-READY PAD REALLY MEAN LEGALLY AND WHAT DOES THE STATE GRANT SCOPE SHOW WE GOT IN THE THREE -- OR TWO GRANTS BECAUSE ONE IS FOR BALLOON FIESTA PARK IMPROVEMENTS BUT THE OTHER TWO, WHAT IS THE SCOPE? >> MR. PRESIDENT AND COUNCILOR BASSAN, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION WE HAVE FOUR GRANTS WE ARE TALKING ABOUT. THE 2022 GRANT FOR BALLOON FIESTA PARK IMPROVEMENTS THE 4.3 MILLION WITH THIS NEXT GRANT I'M GOING TO TELL YOU ABOUT ADS UP TO ABOUT 4.5, AND THE GRANT FOR THE '22 GRANT OR THE SCOPE, THE PLAN DESIGN EQUIPMENT PURCHASE, INSTALL AND IMPROVE BALLOON FIESTA PARK IN ALBUQUERQUE IN BETTERLY I DON'TO COUNTY, THIS SAYS PLAN, DESIGN, CONSTRUCT, RENOVATE -- HOLD ON -- FURNISH AND EQUIP, INCLUDING RESTROOMS AND ROADS, WALKWAYS, PILOTS PA SILL I DON'D PARKING LOTS AND -- MR. REAL WAS ALSO TALKING ABOUT THE TWO SOCCER-SPECIFIC GRANTS FROM EARLIER. ONE IS FROM -- IS ABOUT $5 MILLION TO PLAN, DESIGN AND CONSTRUCT A MULTIUSE EVENT CENTER AND STADIUM INCLUDING PROFESSIONAL SOCCER IS A FILTS IS AFACILITIES IN ALBUQUERQUE AD THE OTHER WAS TO ACQUIRE LAND FOR AND TO PLAN, DESIGN AND CONSTRUCT PHASE 1 OF A SPORTS AND CULTURAL CENTER IN ALBUQUERQUE IN BERNALILLO COUNTY. THOSE ARE THE FIVE -- I'VE LOST COUNT NOW, FOUR GRANTS I THINK WE ARE TALKING ABOUT. >> MR. MOSCO HOW MUCH WAS THE LAST ONE FOR? >> THE FIRST ONE WAS 4.3 FOR BALLOON FIESTA PARK, AND 150,000 FOR RENOVATIONS AND THE THIRD WAS THE STADIUM AND MULTIUSE CENTER, RIGHT NOW THE BALANCE AS OF AUGUST WAS $4.8 MILLION AND THE MOST RECENT ONE WAS EXACTLY 5 MILLION. AND NO ENCUMBRANCES ON THAT GRANT. >> THANK YOU. MR. PRESIDENT AND ATTORNEYS, WHAT IS THE SCOPE OR DEFINITION OF A BUILD-READY PAD? >> [INAUDIBLE] EXCUSE ME, COUNCILORS I HAVE TO RECUSE MYSELF [INAUDIBLE] DISCUSSION [INAUDIBLE] >> I'LL DO MY BEST TO TRY TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION, MR. PRESIDENT AND COUNCILOR BASSAN, THAT IS A TERM NOT DEFINED IN THE LEASE AGREEMENT, HOWEVER THERE ARE SOME OBLIGATIONS LISTED OUT IF YOU ARE FOLLOWING ALONG IT'S 13.02, CITY'S ADDITIONAL OBLIGATIONS. FISCAL AGENT FOR FUNDS ALREADY APPROPRIATED BY THE STATE, CITY AGREES TO DO -- A WHOLE LIST OF THINGS. GRADE AND MAINTAIN PARKING AREAS AND CREATE A PUBLIC COMMON AREA, PLAZAS, PROVIDE LIGHTING, STABILIZE, ROUTINE AND TERRACE THE SOUTHEASTERN EDGES -- THERE ARE AREAS ASSOCIATED WITH THE CITY ON THE SITE BUILD. >> SO WE ARE INCLUDING A PLAZA IN MAKING IT A BUILD-READY SITE. >> THAT IS NOT REALLY THE DEFINITION OF THAT TERM, IT'S JUST A LEVEL SITE AND REQUIRES COMPASSION IF THAT IS REQUIRED, IF SIGNAGE IS REQUIRED AND YOU HAVE TO ADD IT THEN YOU WOULD HAVE TO COMPACT IT. >> OKAY. MR. PRESIDENT. SO WHAT IS BUDGETED FOR THE ON-GOING PORTION OF THE CITY MAINTENANCE BECAUSE WE KEEP HEARING THIS IS A PRIVATE STADIUM BUT WE ARE ALSO TALKING ABOUT A CITY LEASE AGREEMENT WITH CITY PROPERTIES AND SO WHAT IS OUR PORTION TO MAKE SURE WE BUDGET ON-GOING FOR MAINTENANCE AND OPERATION, IN ADDITION TO SOME OF THESE IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE REQUIRED AS PART OF THE LEASE AGREEMENT. >> MR. PRESIDENT AND COUNCILOR BASSAN, LET ME SEE IF I'M FOLLOWING YOUR QUESTION. THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT IS THERE TODAY DOES REQUIRE CITY MAINTENANCE AND UPKEEP AND THAT IS FUNDED THROUGH THE PARKS AND RECS DEPARTMENT THROUGH THEIR BUDGETS. PRESUMABLY THE NEW INFRASTRUCTURE AND ADDITIONAL IF YOU WILL WORK AT THE SITE, THAT MAINTENANCE WOULD BE LESS BECAUSE THE CITY IS NOT HAVING TO GO OUT THERE AND PATCH ELECTRICAL LINES AND ISSUES ASSOCIATED WITH THE SITE. THAT PORTION OF THE MAINTENANCE WOULD BE ABSORBED AS IT CURRENTLY IS WITHIN THE PARKS AND REC BUDGET FOR THE BALLOON FIESTA PARK SITE. >> AND WE ARE ABLE TO ABSORB THAT INTO THE PARKS AND REC BUDGETS? >> MR. PRESIDENT AND COUNCILOR BASSAN, YES, IT WOULD BE ABSORBED WHEN THE CURRENT BUDGET AND THE ADDITIONAL REVENUE FROM THE PARKING FEES AND LEASE WILL CERTAINLY HELP TO COVER SOME OF THOSE COSTS AS WELL. >> OKAY, AND MR. PRESIDENT, WHY IS THERE A TERMINATION SUNSET CLAUSE FOR 2027, WHY IS IT SO FAR OUT WHEN WE HEARD EARLIER THAT 2026 IS WHEN THINGS WOULD END UP NOT HAPPENING BUT IN THE LEASE AGREEMENT, THE CLAUSE IS 2027. >> MR. PRESIDENT AND COUNCILOR BASSAN, THE IDEA OF HAVING A TERMINATION OR SUNSET CLAUSE IN THIS LEASE IS SIMPLY IF THERE WAS ANY ISSUES ASSOCIATED WITH FINANCING OR WITH THE DELIVERY OF THE PROGRAM -- IN OTHER WORDS WE ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF CONSTRUCTION AND YOU GET BAD WEATHER OF OTHER ISSUES WHATEVER MIGHT OCCUR WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE HOLD THE CONTRACTOR TO A DATE SO WE DON'T HAVE THIS PROPERTY LOCKED INTO THIS LEASE IN PERPETUITY. >> THANK YOU, MR. REAL, SOME OF THAT ANSWERED A LOT OF MY QUESTIONS, I'M GLAD WE ASK TO ASK THEM, BUT THERE ARE STILL PLENTY I CANNOT ASK BECAUSE OF THE PREDICAMENT WE ARE IN, BUT I SEE WE ARE NOT DOING THE 90-DAY DEFERRAL. I GET IT. I JUST REALLY HOPE THAT OUR STAFF, ADMINISTRATION AND THIS COUNCIL WILL ACTUALLY GET ANSWERS TO THE QUESTIONS BEFORE WE DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT TO PROCEED WITH ANY OF LEASE AGREEMENT. NOT JUST THIS ONE, NOT BECAUSE WE REALLY LIKE OR DON'T LIKE THE IDEA, BUT AS THE FISCAL AGENTS OF THE CITY, THE ONES IN CHARGE OF THE BUDGET TO HAVE THIS MANY QUESTIONS ABOUT SOMETHING THAT IS NOT CONCRETE IN A LEASE AGREEMENT, IT'S FOOLISH OF US TO PASS IF WE DON'T END UP GETTING THAT IRONED OUT BEFORE WE TALK ABOUT IT AGAIN IN 30 DAYS. >> OKAY, WE ARE STILL ON APPROVALS AND IT'S ALMOST 10:30, WHICH IS TECHNICALLY THE END OF OUR MEETING BUT I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO EXTEND THE MEETING FOR ONE HOUR TO 11:30 BECAUSE I THINK IT'S GOING TO TAKE AT LEAST THAT LONG, AND SEEING NO DISCUSSION, WILL THE CLERK CALL THE ROLL. >> COUNCILOR BASSAN.>> YES. >> COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >> YES. >> JOINLER JONES. >> YES. >> COUNCILOR LEWIS. >> YES. >> COUNCILOR PEÑA. >> YES. >> COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. >> YES. >> COUNCILOR DAVIS. >> YES. >> WE MAY BE HERE TO LAWRENCE REAL DAY, BUT WE'LL GET IT DONE. >> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT, I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. YOU TALKED, MR. REAL ABOUT THE 300 SPACES AND 15 PER SLOT. WHAT WE CHARGE THE BALLOON FIESTA, I DON'T KNOW, I WAS ABLE TO HAVE A PASS, SO WHAT DO THEY CHARGE? >> MR. PRESIDENT AND COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, IT'S 3,000 SPACES IN THIS CALCULATION, WITH YOU THE BALLOON FIESTA PARK OR THE FIESTA CHARGES $20 A SPACE, AND WE DID NOT GET ANY OF THAT REVENUE FROM THE BALLOON FIESTA LICENSE OR LEASE AGREEMENT TO USE THE PARK. >> OKAY, AND IS THERE ANY REASON WHY WE CAN'T CHARGE THAT SAME AMOUNT? >> MR. PRESIDENT, THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO REASON. I USE A NUMBER THAT WE THOUGHT WAS REASONABLE FOR AN ACTIVITY OF THIS NATURE, AND THERE IS NO QUESTION THAT THAT PARKING FEE WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT COULD BE NEGOTIATED. BUT AS A MINIMUM, THAT IS THE STANDARD NUMBER THAT WE THOUGHT WAS A REASONABLE NUMBER FOR THIS TYPE OF WORK. AND I WILL TELL YOU IN MANY CASES THEY ARE PAYING AT UNM AT ISOTOPES PARK, AROUND THAT NUMBER, SO IT WAS A SOMEWHAT EDUCATED NUMBER IF YOU WILL BASED ON OUR EXPERIENCE WITH ISOTOPES PARK. >> OKAY, I JUST WAS CURIOUS BECAUSE I THOUGHT THAT $20 WAS THE NEW NORM. AND ALSO, I'M JUST CURIOUS ABOUT THE ATTENDANCE AT UNITED. HOW WAS THE ATTENDANCE LAST YEAR VERSES THIS YEAR? CAN YOU GIVE ME ANY INFORMATION ON THAT OR IS THERE ANYONE HERE WHO CAN ANSWER THAT QUESTION? >> MR. PRESIDENT AND COUNCILORRING UNFORTUNATELY I THINK OUR UNITED FOLKS HAVE LEFT BUT LET ME SAY THAT ATTENDANCE HAS BEEN PRETTY STRONG, ALL THINGS CONSIDERED. THEY HAD A GAME AND COUNCILOR COUNCILORDAVIS WAS THERE AND THD 12,000 RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE BALLOON FIESTA, AND RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DAY, ET CETERA REMARKS AND -- WHETHER FOLKS GO OR NOT. >> OKAY, AND COUNCILOR SANCHEZ TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION ACCORDING TO THE USL, IN MEXICO UNITED AVERAGES 9400 FANS IN THE SEATS THIS YEAR AND 8500 IN THE LAST YEAR, NO. TWO IN THE LEAGUE IN THE NATION AMONG 30 TEAMS. >> OKAY, THANK YOU. AND ANOTHER THING IS AND I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN GET THIS QUESTION ANSWERED BUT WHICH IS THIS EXPECTED TO GO TO THE ETC, IS THAT SOMETHING I CAN ASK OR NO? >> MR. PRESIDENT AND COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, ON THE 5TH OF OCTOBER WE SUBMITTED OUR PETITION TO THE EPC AND IT IS NOW IN THE EPC PROCESS, AND I UNDERSTAND THE HEARING HE IS IN THE MIDDLE OF NOVEMBER. >> THANK YOU. GOING BACK TO THE PARKING SPACES AND THE REVENUE, WHAT KIND OF ARRANGEMENTS DID WE MAKE IN REFERENCE TO A DECREASE IN FAN ATTENDANCE. I MEAN, I LIKE UNITED, AND BEEN TO SEVERAL MATCHES AND I HAVE POSTERS IN MY OFFICE. I'M FOR IT, BUT I JUST NEED THESE QUESTIONS ANSWERED TO MAKE SURE WE ARE FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE. WHAT HAPPENS IF THERE IS A DECREASE IN THE ATTENDANCE OVERALL AND SAY IT LOOSES ITS LUSTER AND THEY HAVE A REALLY BAD SEASON AND THINGS TURN OUT REALLY BAD? I KNOW THERE IS AN OPTION PROBABLY TO GET THE -- THING BACK, BUT WHAT ARE OUR ARRANGEMENTS ON A YEARLY DECREASE IF THAT HAPPENS? >> MR. PRESIDENT AND COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, LET ME PUT IT TO YOU THIS WAY. RIGHT NOW WE DO NOT MAKE ANY REF REVENUE OFF OF THOSE PARKING LOTS AS THEY SIT TODAY. ALL THE CITY EVENTS ARE FREE PARKING AND THE FIESTA EVENTS ARE $20 A SPOT. IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE WE ESTIMATE IF THEY DO LOSE ATTENDANCE, OBVIOUSLY OUR REVENUES WOULD GO DOWN, VIS- 'A0 -VIS THE NUMBER OF CARS PARKED AT THE PARK, BUT THAT WOULD MEAN OBVIOUSLY WE WOULD GET LESS REVENUE FROM PARKING AS A PART OF OUR LEASE AGREEMENT. >> THANK YOU. ONE LAST QUESTION. I FIGURE IT'S GOING BE PROBABLY ABOUT -- YOU SAID 112,000 A YEAR ONCE YOU ADD THE LEASE AGREEMENT WITH THE PARKS. >> RIGHT. >> THAT IS ABOUT 9,333 A MONTH. BASED ON THAT FIGURE, ARE WE GOING TO BE -- IS THAT THE TRUE MARKET VALUE? IS THAT WHERE WE NEED TO BE? DID SOMEONE DO THE CALCULATION AND FIGURE OUT THAT IS A PROPER MARKET VALUE FOR THAT SPECIFIC AREA? >> MR. PRESIDENT AND COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, THE RENTAL PAYMENTS OR RENTAL FEES IN THAT AREA FOR COMMERCIAL ARE VERY DYNAMIC BECAUSE THERE'S ONLY LIKE TWO OR THREE BIG PROPERTY OWNERS IN THAT AREA. SO I WOULD SAY TO YOU THAT I LOOK AT THIS AS ONE OF THOSE CLASSIC CONVERSATIONS IS THE GLASS HALF FULL OR HALF EMPTY. WE GET ZERO TODAY. I'VE BEEN GETTING $9,000 A MONTH RENT ON THE USE OF A FACILITY THAT PROVIDES OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE COMMUNITY IS PROBABLY A VERY GOOD DEAL THAT GIVEN THE FACT THAT IT'S A PRIVATELY-OWNED FACILITY AND THE CITY IS ONLY ON THE HOOK AFTER IT'S BUILT FRANKLY FOR JUST ENSURING THAT THE PARKING LOTS ARE AVAILABLE FOR USE. >> OKAY, THANK YOU. >> COUNCILOR GROUT. >> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. SO MY CONCERN IS LIKE YOU SAID, I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA TO DO -- GET SOME INCOME FOR PROPERTY THAT IS SITTING THERE, SO I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT. BUT WHEN WE DON'T HAVE REAL FIGURES, I FIND IT -- JUST IN MY TIME ON COUNCIL AND LEARNING ALL OF THESE THING, I DON'T FATE THAT $13 MILLION IS GOING GET ALL WE NEED ON THE CITY END, WHAT THE CITY IS RESPONSIBLE FOR AND I CAN JUST SEE MORE THINGS ADDING UP. THAT IS MY CONCERN BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ANY REAL NUMBERS. IT'S GOING TO COST $4,000 FOR THIS AND $5,000 FOR THAT. I'M LOOKING HERE AT THE CITY'S ADDITIONAL OBLIGATIONS AND IT SAYS WE ARE RESPONSE TO BELIEVE IMPROVEMENT -- ENTRANCE TO THE STADIUM. WITH A DOES THAT MEAN? LIKE HOW MANY -- >> MR. PRESIDENT AND COUNCILOR GROUT, THAT COULD SIMPLY MEAN ENSURING THERE IS A PROPER GATE FOR FOLKS TO GO IN AND OUT OF THE FACILITY. IT DOESN'T MEAN IT'S A MONUMENT OF ANY SORT. RIGHT NOW THAT AREA IS FENCED OFF WITH CHAIN-LINK FENCE AND THIS WOULD MEAN WE PUT UP APPROPRIATE GATES TO HAVE ACCESS TO THE STATE. >> LANDSCAPING FOR THE PARK S THAT FOR THE BALLOON PARK OR THE STADIUM? >> THAT IS FOR THE LAND AROUND THE STADIUM ITSELF, WHICH WOULD MEAN FIRMING UP THE BERM BECAUSE OF THE LOCATION -- >> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. ONE OF THE AMOUNTS WE ARE GETTING FROM THE STATE, MR. MOSCO MENTIONED IT'S $4 MILLION TO PURCHASE LAND. >> THAT IS PART -- MR. PRESIDENT, THAT IS PART OF THE SCOPE BUT NOT THE ONLY REQUIREMENTS OF THE SCOPE. THE SCOPE IS FAIRLY BROAD. IT DOESN'T MEAN IF WE ALREADY OWN THE LAND WE CAN USE THE FUNDS FOR OTHER PURPOSES. >> IT'S WRITTEN IN THERE? >> YES. >> ALL RIGHT. OKAY, LET ME THINK HERE. I HAD SOME MORE QUESTIONS. A LOT OF MY QUESTIONS I STILL CAN'T ASK. ARE YOU GOING TO CONVENE THE COMMISSION? >> MR. PRESIDENT AND COUNCILORS, I THINK YOU ALL ASKED THE QUESTION. I WOULD BE HAPPY TO SIT AND REVIEW IT WITH THE COMMISSION. -- THE FIRST -- TO MEET WITH THEM DIDN'T WORK OUT AND IF YOUR INTENT IS TO DEFER FOR 30 DAYS WE'LL MAKE SURE WE MEET WITH THE COMMISSION KEEPING IN MIND ALL OF THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION PROBABLY WILL BE MAKING COMMENT ON THE LAND USE AS WELL SO THERE WILL BE PLENTY OF TIME FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE LAND USE PART AS WE MOVE FORWARD. >> OKAY. CAN YOU GET US LIKE SOME REAL NUMBER SOS WE CAN FEEL CONFIDENT OR AT LEAST I CAN FEEL CONFIDENT THAT 13 MILLION IS GOING TO GET US EVERYTHING? BECAUSE I REALLY -- I'M REALLY SKITTISH BECAUSE THE GATEWAY IS A REALLY GOOD EXAMPLE OF HOW WE NEED MORE MONEY, WE NEED MORE MONEY, WE NEED MORE MONEY. >> MR. PRESIDENT AND COUNCILOR BASSAN, LOOK, I RECOGNIZE THAT GATEWAY IS WHAT IT IS IN THE PERSPECTIVE OF THE CONVERSATION. THIS IS VERY, VERY DIFFERENT. THIS IS NOT BUYING A 30 OR 40--YEAR-OLD FACILITY THAT HAS ISSUED BUT IS ACTUALLY A VERY GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO BRING IN A DIFFERENT USE TO SERVE A COMMUNITY NEED. THIS IS REALLY ABOUT PUTTING IN THE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THE PARK ITSELF. AND I WOULD WANT YOU ALL TO JUST KEEP THIS IN MIND. ANY FUNDING WE PUT INTO THE PARK IS GOING TO IMPROVE THE PARK AND THE CITY WILL OWN AND MAINTAIN IF YOU WILL, THE OPPORTUNITY TO USE THE PARK FOR LOTS OF OTHER PURPOSES. SO IT REALLY DOES QUITE FRANKLY CREATE A WIN-WIN IN THAT THE PARK GETS THE BENEFIT OF GREAT NEW INFRASTRUCTURE AND WE GET THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A MULTI-USE FACILITY TO ADD VALUE TO THE EXPERIENCE OF THE PARK ITSELF. >> FOR THE REST, MR. PRESIDENT, ARE THE RESTROOMS GOING TO BE BUILT AT THE STADIUM OR BUILD NEAR VENDOR ROW? >> MR. PRESIDENT AND COUNCILOR GROUT, THOSE CONVERSATIONS ARE PART OF THAT SITE PLAN. >> OKAY. >> SO WE SHOULD PROBABLY NOT TALK ABOUT THAT. >> RIGHT. AND WHAT ARE THE TEN -- WHAT KIND OF FUNCTIONS HAVE HAPPENED AT ISOTOPE ON THE TEN DAYS THAT YOU GUYS -- WHAT KIND OF -- >> MR. PRESIDENT AND COUNCILOR BASSAN, ON OCCASION, THE PARK ITSELF MAY BE USED FOR NONPROFITS THAT HOLD YOU KNOW, IF YOU WILL, LIKE THE EASTER VIGIL, THOSE SORTS OF THINGS HAVE HAPPENED THERE BEFORE, ON OCCASION, THE LITTLE LEAGUES PLAY, THE LITTLE CHAMPIONSHIP GAMES THAT THEY HAVE. IN SOME CASES AS YOU ALL KNOW WE HAVE A PRETTY ROBUST NATIVE AMERICAN LEAGUE THAT IS -- ALL OF THE PUEBLOS AROUND THE ALBUQUERQUE AREA, THEY HAVE ASKED FOR USE OF THE PARK FOR THEIR CHAMPIONSHIP PROGRAM. SO THERE'S BEEN OTHER USES FOR THE FACILITY ITSELF. >> OKAY. >> I CAN GET YOU A LIST OF THOSE IF YOU WANT TO KNOW WHAT THEY ARE. >> I'M VERY INTERESTED, AND THES QUESTION, BUT THANK YOU. >> SO THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR IS FOR A 30-DAY DEFERRAL, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION BEFORE WE MOVE FOR THE RECORD? SEEING NONE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF A DEFERRAL FOR 30 DAYS TO OUR NOVEMBER 20TH MEETING -- I'M SORRY, COUNCILOR -- YEAH, WE ARE GOING -- >> [INAUDIBLE] >> LOOK, YEAH, WHEN SOMEBODY'S OR A GROUP OF PEOPLE ARE INVESTING TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS INTO OUR CITY FOR A REALLY GREAT PRODUCT LIKE THE UNITED, I HAVE TO HAND IT TO THEM AND WE GOT TO -- WE DEFINITELY WANT TO SUPPORT THEM IN EVERY POSSIBLE WAY. THIS IS INCREDIBLE QUALITY OF LIFE AND A GREAT INVESTMENT. THESE ARE PEOPLE INVESTING THEIR MONEY BUT ALSO THEIR REPUTATION. AND SO I DO APPRECIATE OTHERS WHO ARE INVESTING THEIR REPUTATION AND MONEY AND SAYING ALBUQUERQUE IS WHERE WE WANT TO CALL HOME AND MAKE A GREAT AND SUCCESSFUL ORGANIZATION. SO I THINK AS I SAID, A 30-DAY DEFERRAL IS NOT A NO. IT SHOULDN'T BE MEAN -- IT SHOULD ABSOLUTELY NOT BE SEEN AS A STEP BACK. IT SHOULD BE SEEN AS, HEY, THIS IS A PART OF THE PROCESS, THESE ARE GREAT QUESTIONS FROM COUNCILOR BASSAN TO MAKE SURE THERE IS DUE DILIGENCE AND MAKE SURE WE TALK THROUGH THESE THINGS. THIS IS NOT A LONGER THAN NECESSARY -- THIS IS A PRETTY NORMAL PROCESS, AND NORMAL TIME PERIOD TO DO THIS. SO I THINK 30 DAYS IS PRETTY REASONABLE AND I THOUGHT 90 DAYS WAS WAS JUST MUCH TOO LONG, SO I THINK THIS IS PRETTY REASONABLE. >> AND IT'S YOUR CLOSE, BUT LET ME SAY I AGREE WITH YOU, COUNCILOR. I THINK IT MAKES SENSE, A REASONABLE COMPROMISE, AND WE UNDERSTAND AND THE LEASE I THINK IS IN A GOOD SPOT AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED. I THINK THE QUESTIONS ARE VALID, AND WHETHER THEY MODIFY ANYTHING OR THAT, BUT I THINK IT MAKES PEOPLE FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE AND IT TALKS ABOUT OUR PROCESS, AND THINGS THAT THE COUNCIL AND ADMINISTRATION HAVE GONE BACK AND FORTH ON FOR A LONG TIME LIKE WHO IS ON FIRST AND COMMUNICATION WITH THE PUBLIC BEFORE WE GET THERE. THERE ARE LESSONS TO BE LEARNED IN THE PROCESS BUT IT'S PRETTY NORMAL THAT WE HAVE MULTIPLE TIMES TO DO THIS. IN THIS CASE WE HAD NOT HAD AN FTO MEETING BUT WE BROUGHT THIS FORWARD BECAUSE WE HAD NOT HAD ONE IN THE INTERVENING TIME. COUNCILOR SANCHEZ AND THEN WE'LL TRY TO GO TO VOTE. >> THANK YOU, I JUST WANTED TO EXPRESS ONE THING, A LOT OF THIS COULD HAVE BEEN ELIMINATED HAD WE HAD MORE TIME WITH MAYBE THE ADMINISTRATION COMES TO US AND SITTING WITH EACH OF US AND MAYBE THE MAYOR SITTING WITH US TO IRON THIS OUT. I MEAN, THIS WOULD PROBABLY HAVE BEEN A DONE DEAL. ALL OF US HERE HAVE STATED THAT WE ARE VERY, VERY OPTIMISTIC ABOUT DOING THIS AND HAVING A STADIUM. THE ONLY THING IS WE ARE THE LAST ONES TO KNOW AND THE LAST TO HEAR ABOUT CERTAIN THINGS BUT I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT AND THE MAYOR NEEDS TO LISTEN TO THIS AS WELL, THAT WE NEED TO BE HEARING FROM HIM. SO WE -- CAN YOU IMAGINE HAD I BEEN SITTING ACROSS FROM THE MAYOR AND ASKED THESE QUESTIONS YOU GUYS WOULD ALREADY HAVE HAD THIS FIGURED OUT AND WORKED OUT. I REMEMBER WHEN I WAS WORKING WITH THE MAYOR OFFICE ONE TIME, THE MAYOR ALREADY KNEW WHAT THE VOTER WERE GOING TO BE BEFORE IT CAME DOWN BECAUSE HE HAD TALKED TO THE COUNCILORS. AND THAT COMMUNICATION IS NOT HAPPENING HERE. THAT IS MY COMMENT, I'M OKAY WITH A 30-DAY DEFERRAL, AND THIS TEAM NEEDS TO GET MOVING BUT WE NEED TO BE FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR THE TAX PAYERS AND I THINK WE COULD HAVE WORKS MORE THINGS OUT HAD WE HAD COMMUNICATION. >> I WILL TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THOUGHT HAVING THOSE CONVERSATIONS IN MUCH MORE DETAIL WITH ALL OF YOU. AND I APPRECIATE AND I TALK TO HEART YOUR COMMENTS, COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. I JUST WANT YOU ALL TO RECOGNIZE THAT I'M ASSOCIATING A CONTRACT WITH 10 PEOPLE, ACTUALLY 11 IF YOU TALK ABOUT THE TEAM AND YOU SAW ALL OF THE QUESTIONS THAT CAME UP, IT'S A BIT OF A CHALLENGE, BUT I DO APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS, COUNCILOR SANCHEZ AND IN THAT 30 DAYS I WILL TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION BECAUSE THIS IS AN IMPORTANT OPPORTUNITY FOR THE FUTURE OF THE CITY AND I THINK IT COMES -- >> A MOTION ON THE FLOOR FOR A 30-DAY DEFERRAL, NO DISCUSSION, AND SEEING NONE. >> COUNCILOR BASSAN. >> YES. >> COUNCILOR BENTON. >> YES. >> COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >> YES. >> COUNCILOR JONES. >> YES. >> COUNCILOR LEWIS. >> YES. >> COUNCILOR PEÑA. >> YES. >> COUNCILOR SAN CHESS. >> YES. >> COUNCILOR DAIFERS. COUNCILOR DAIS.>> YES. >> THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >> THANK YOU, AND I WILL ASK OUR STAFF ESPECIALLY OUR LOCAL FOLKS WOULD YOU WORK WITH THE ADMINISTRATION AND DO A NEW WRITE UP TO MAKE SURE WE ARE ADDRESSING THE TECHNICAL POINTS AND MAKE SURE EVERYONE GET AS COPY OF THE LEASE. NEXT UP THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA -- I HAVE TO GET BACK TO IT, MY APOLOGIES. IT IS OUR APPEAL. THIS IS EC-23-13, AND I WILL HAVE TO RECUSE, THIS INVOLVES A CANNABIS COMPANY AND FOR THE RECORD I DON'T HAVE ANY BUSINESS WITH EITHER OF THE PARTIES OR THE NEIGHBORHOOD BUT I DO A LOT OF WORK IN THE INDUSTRY AND HELP ADVISE AND CREATE POLICIES AND OUT OF AN ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION, SO MADAM VICE PRESIDENT, THE GAVEL IS YOURS. >> THANK YOU, THIS IS AC-23-13, ANDRE GALARZA. APPEALS THE DISOARNING HEARING EXAMINERS DECISION TO APPROVE A CONDITIONAL USE TO ALLOW CANNABIS RETAIL WITHIN 600 FEET FOR LOT 1A BLOCK 5, SARATON HEIGHTS SUBDIVISION, LOCATED AT 5704 LOMAS BLFL, NORTHEAST. >> THE ISSUE IN THIS ALLEY IS AS WHETHER THIS CONDITIONAL USE TO BE ALLOWING A CONDITIONAL USE AND REQUIRES A PERMIT TO LOCATE WITHIN 600 FEET OF AN EXISTING CANNABIS RETAIL. DOES THE AT ALLOW FOR THE LOCATION OF A NEW ESTABLISHMENT APPROXIMATELY 512 FEET FROM AN EXISTING ESTABLISHMENT. THE APPELLANT ANDRE GALARZA APPEALED THIS APPROVAL, AND THE APPELLANT CLAIMS THAT ONE, THE NEW CANNABIS RETAIL ESTABLISHMENT WILL HAVE AN AVERAGE IMPACT ON THE OTHER ESTABLISHMENT IN THE AREA BECAUSE THE MARKET IS ALREADY SATURATED AND THE APPLICANT FAILED TO NOTIFY A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND POST PUBLIC SIGNS REGARDING THE HEARING. IT IS RECOMMENDED THAT THE CITY COUNCIL DENY THE APPEAL AND APPROVE THE CONDITIONAL USE. THE APPELLANT WAS FOUND TO HAVE -- SIGNIFICANT IMPACT AS REQUIRED BY THE IDO BECAUSE THE APEL RNT'S -- REGULATED BY THE IDO AND THE PLAN ACTUALLY ENCOURAGES FOSTERS BUSINESSES FOR ECONOMIC REDEVELOPMENT AND IN-FILL. AS TO THE NOTICE ARGUMENT, THE ALUJO CONCLUDED THAT THE EVIDENCE SHOWS THE APPLICANT DID COMPLY WITH ALL NOTICES TO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND THROUGH SIGN POSTINGS. AND IT WAS CONCLUDED THAT THE APPELLANT FAILED TO MEET HIS BURDEN IN APPLYING THE IDO. THE DECISION IS SUPPORTED BY SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE IN THE RECORD AND SHOULD BE UPHELD. WE WILL NOT HEAR FROM ANY OF THE PARTIES TONIGHT. RATHER THAN COUNCIL'S OPTIONS ARE TO ACCEPT THE RECOMMENDATIONS AND FINDINGS OR ACCEPT THE RECOMMENDATIONS BUT ADOPT DIFFERENT FINDINGS OR REJECT BOTH IN WHICH CASE WE'LL HAVE A FULL HEARING ON THIS AT OUR NEXT MEETING. >> EXCUSE ME, MR. PRESIDENT -- WE COULDN'T -- THANK YOU. SORRY. DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NO? OKAY. I MOVE THAT WE ACCEPT THE LUJO'S RECOMMENDATIONS AND FINDINGS. WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? >> COUNCILOR ABOUT A SON. >> YES. >> COUNCILOR BENTON. >> YES. >> COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >> YES. >> COUNTER GROUT. >> YES. >> COUNCILOR JONES. >> YES. >> COUNCILOR PEÑA. >> YES. >> COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. >> YES. >> COUNCILOR DAVIS HAS RECUSED. >> ALL RIGHT, WE ARE GOING TO MOVE ON TO FINAL ACTIONS. >> OKAY, LET'S SEE HOW FAST WE CAN DO THESE. MOVING TO R-23-151. >> MR. PRESIDENT, AMENDING THE DOOMENTED CAPITAL IMPLEMENTATION PROGRAM OF THE CITY BY APPROVING NEW PROJECTS, SUPPLEMENTING CURRENT APPROPRIATIONS AND PROJECT, I MOVE TO DUE PASS. >> I HEARD COUNCIL FIEBELKORN FIRST., I WOULD LIKE TO MOVER AMENDMENT ONE, AND 2015GEO REVENUE BONDS, AND 2016 REVENUE BONDS, 150,000 INTEREST, AND PARK AND RECREATION, GEOBOND AND AQUATICS CENTER, 1.85 MILLION TO BE -- TAKING THE FIRST THREE AND PUTTING IT INTO THAT. THIS AMENDMENT WILL BE APPROPRIATE FUNDS WITHIN PARKS AND RECS TO A SPLASH PARK TO THE NORTH DOMINGO PARK AQUATICS CENTER. >> SEEING NONE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR FOR MENDMENT ONE. >> APPROXIMATE COUNCILOR BASSAN. >> YES. >> COUNSELOR BENTON. >> YES. >> COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >> YES. >> COUNCILOR JONES. >> YES. >> COUNSELOR LEWIS, EXCUSED. COUNCILOR PEÑA? >> YES. >> COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. >> YES. >> COUNCIL DAVIS. >> YES. >> THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >> MR. PRESIDENT, I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >> SEEING NO DISCUSSION, WILL THE CLERK CALL THE ROLE. >> COUNCILOR BASSAN. >> YES. >> COUNCILOR BENTON. >> YES. >> COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >> YES. >> COUNCILOR GROUT. >> YES. >> COUNCILOR JONES. >> YES. >> COUNCILOR LEWIS IS EXCUSED, COUNCILOR PEÑA? >> YES. >> COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. >> YES. >> COUNSELOR COUNCILOR DAVIS. >> YES, THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >> NEXT UP. >> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT, THIS IS ESTABLISHING A POLICY FOR THE EXPENDITURE OF OPIOID SETTLEMENT MONIES. >> MR. PRESIDENT, IF I CAN JUST QUICKLY SAY THAT THIS IS A MIRROR PIECE OF LEGISLATION TO WHAT WAS PASSED AT THE COUNSEL E MIDDLE OF LAST WEEK AND BASICALLY SAYS WE ARE HAVING AN UNPRECEDENTED AMOUNT HAVE TO MOARN COMING FROM THE OPIOID SETTLEMENT FUNDS AND WHILE WE ALL WISH WE DID NOT NEED THOSE FUNDS, WE DID AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE FUNDS WE ARE RECEIVING ARE PUT TO THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE AND THIS SAYS WE WOULD LIKE TO PARTNER WITH THE COUNTY TO DEVELOP A PLAN TO HAVE A COMMUNITY-WIDE LOOK AT WHAT IS NEEDED AND THEN WE EACH USE OUR INDIVIDUAL CITY AND COUNCIL MONEY TO FILL THOSE GAPS IN A CONCERTED EFFORT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE PROVIDING THE SERVICES THAT FOLKS NEED. AND WE HEARD FROM QUITE A FEW FAMILIES TONIGHT ON THIS. SO I THINK THE NEED IS WELL UNDERSTOOD AND EXCESSIVE IN OUR COMMUNITY AND WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE HELPING THE MOST PEOPLE. >> AND BEFORE WE GO ON, WE HAVE PEOPLE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. COULD YOU CALL THE LIST FOR US? >> OUR FIRST SPEAKER IS ANAMI DAS FOLLOWED BY SARA OZUREK? >> GOING ONCE... >> MS. OZUREK FOLLOWED BY JANICE HERRERA. >> GO AHEAD. >> YOU'RE UP. >> COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, I COMMEND YOU FROM THE INCITE TO PUT FRAMEWORK AND POLICY IN PLACE ON THE EXPENDITURE OF THE OPIOID FUNDS, WITH ADDITIONAL MILLIONS SPREAD OVER YEARS TO COME AND ENCOURAGE OUR CITY COUNCILORS TO VOTE IN FAVOR OF 174 AND I COAUTHORED THE ASSESSMENT REPORT ON OUR COMMUNITY'S STRENGTHS AND SHORT COMINGS WHEN IT COMES TO TREATMENT AND EXPENDITURE EFFORTS. THE REPORT IS NOT PUBLICLY AVAILABLE YET AND I WILL SIMPLY STATE THAT MY EXPERIENCE WITH PEOPLE WHO HAVE LIVERED WITH -- INFORMS MY STATEMENT TONIGHT AND I LEARNED THAT DIFFERENT PEOPLE REQUIRE DIFFERENT BEHAVIORAL STRATEGIES TO AFFECT CHANGE FOR HEALTH REASONS. AS WE STRUCTURE THIS FUNDING PLEASE BE WILLING TO THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX. DID YOU KNOW THAT SMALL, FREQUENT -- HAVE BEEN PROVEN TO BE HIGHLY EFFECTIVE IN MOTIVATES PEOPLE -- THIS IS AN EVIDENCE-BASED PRACTICE. TAKE DRUG COURT, WHAT WOULD HAPPEN TO SUCCESS RATES IF PEOPLE WERE ENTERED INTO RAFFLE EACH TIME THEIR DRUG TEST WERE INHIBIT TO WIN A GIFT CARD TO A GROCERY STORE, AND WE CELEBRATED THEIR SUCCESS TOGETHER. COMMUNITY BELONGING IS HUGE AND I SEE A GREET NEED FOR SUPPLIES OF NARCAN. -- THERE IS NO CHANCE FOR RECOVERY IF YOU ARE DEAD. >> THANK YOU, MS. HERRERA AND THANK YOU FOR SERVING AND BEING ONE OF OUR ADVISORS. >> THANK YOU. FELLOW OFFICER SILVA, HE IS AWESOME. >> WE ARE GLAD THAT YOU ARE BETTER. >> WE HAVE DAVID BURKE ON ZOOM FOLLOWED BY DEBBIE THOMAS VIA PHONE. >> MR. PRESIDENT AND COUNCIL MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, I'M DAVIDBURKE AND MY WIFE AND I RUA NONPROFIT TREATMENT CENTER. I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON THE OIP OPIOIDFUNDS, THIS HAS BEEN A LO, HARD FIGHT, AND IT WILL BE 13 YEARS I'VE BEEN FIGHTING THIS IN SEPTEMBER AND MY FEAR IS WHAT THESE FUNDS WILL REMAIN UNSPENT AFTER COMMITTEE AFTER COMMITTEE IS FORMED TO DETERMINE HOW TO SPEND THE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS. WE NEED PREVENTION AND INTERVENTION IN SCHOOLS AND COMMUNITY CENTERS, UNIVERSITIES AND WORK CENTERS AND WE NEED TREATMENT FOR THOSE OF THOSE WHO ARE CURRENTLY AND HAVE SUFFERED FROM OPIOID USE. WE NEED THE FUNDS TO HELP JOB PLACEMENT AND LONG-TERM HOUSING AND MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS TO COME HERE AND SERVEG THE PEOPLEE OF THIS CITY AND COUNCIL. I ASK THIS COUNCIL TO ADOPT THIS A SOONER- RATHER-THAN LATER APPROACH AND I PRAY THAT BUREAUCRACY DOESN'T GET IN THE WAY. >> DEBBIE THOMAS, CAN YOU HEAR US OKAY? DEBBIE, YOU ARE MUTED. >> HELLO, CAN YOU HEAR ME? >> WE CAN HEAR YOU, PLEASE CONTINUE. >> OKAY. GOOD EVENING COUNCIL, THIS IS DEBBIE THOMAS AND I WAS THERE EARLIER. YOU MIGHT HAVE SEEN MY SON ADDISON ON THE BEAUTIFUL PRINT I BROUGHT IN EARLIER WHEN WE STOOD UP THERE. INSTEAD OF SAVING HIMSELF, MY SON BECAME AN ORGAN DONOR AND HIS DEATH IS PROVE THAT THE INSURANCE SYSTEMS ARE NOT ON BOARD WITH ADDICTION AND RECOVERY AND THE MEDICAL COMMUNITY IS STIGMATIZED AND FRUSTRATED OVER ADDICTION. I REMEMBER IN THE HOSPITAL WORKERS AT PRESBYTERIAN TELLING ME THEY WERE GETTING THREE TO FOUR DRUG-INDUCED OVERDOSES PER DAY IN 2021. MY SON'S DEATH CERTIFICATE STATES HE DIED OF LACK OF OXYGEN TO THE BRAIN BUT HE REALLY PASSED FROM A DRUG INDUCED EPISODE WHERE HIS FRIEND WHO WAS WITH HIM DID NOT DO CPR OR CHEST COMPRESSIONS OR CALL 9-1-1 BUT INSTEAD PANICS. ADDISON HAD SPENT TIME AT A FANCY FACILITY IN COLORADO. FOUR MONTHS BEFORE I LEFT HE WAS HAVING WITHDRAWALS FROM XANAX AND CHECKED HIM INTO THE ER AND THE HOSPITAL PRESCRIBED HIM FAKE XANAX AND SENT HIM ON HIS WAY. IN 2019 HIS DOCTOR PRESCRIBED HIS ANTI-DEPRESSANTS OF A LOST GIRLFRIEND, AND HE BECAME NORMIZED AND SO DID THE DEALERS ON SNAPCHAT DURING COVID. YOUNG PEOPLE CAN DIE WHEN CONSUMING FENTANYL. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. THAT CONCLUDES COMMENT. >> MR. PRESIDENT? >> COUNCILOR PEÑA AND THEN COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. ON THIS I JUST REALLY APPRECIATE THE SPONSORS, THIS BOARD. I WON'T BE SUPPORTING THIS -- [INAUDIBLE] SERENITY -- COMMENTW THAT -- ANALYSIS -- ONE OF THE FIRST ONES -- GETTING -- HELP TO YOU KNOW, IDENTIFY -- OUT THERE IN THE COMMUNITY -- KIND OF BACK TO WHAT I HAD SAID INITIALLY IS THAT ALTHOUGH I KNOW THIS IS WELL-INTENTIONED, I REALLY DO FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO GET THE MONEY OUT -- OUT ON THE STREETS SOONER THAN LATER, YOU KNOW, I LOOK AT THE RESOLUTION AND I SEE THAT THIS COULD BE UP TO A COUPLE OF YEARS WORTH OF PLANNING AND ONCE THOSE YEARS GO BY, IT COULD ACTUALLY COME TO COUNCIL AND WE CAN REJECT WHATEVER PLANS WERE PUT IN PLACE. AGAIN, I WANT TO SAY I APPRECIATE THE SPONSORS BUT I JUST CAN'T SUPPORT THIS RESOLUTION. SO THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, COUNCILOR PEÑA, BACK TO COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT, I APPRECIATE THE FOLKS WHO CALLED IN AND SHARED THEIR PERSONAL STORIES AND I WISH WE DID NOT HAVE TO HEAR THOSE STORIES BUT I'M VERY CONCERNED THAT WE WOULD SPEND ALL OF THIS MONEY AND NOT HAVE ENOUGH TO SHOW FOR IT. WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO SHOW FOLKS THAT THERE WAS ASSISTANCE GIVEN TO OUR COMMUNITY, AND I DO WANT TO JUST SAY ONE OF THE THINGS THAT COUNCILOR GROUT AND COUNCILOR BASSAN BROUGHT UP OVER AND OVER AGAIN WHEN WE WERE DRAFTING THIS IS REALLY MAKING SURE THAT WE MOVE ON THIS AND SPEND THIS MONEY QUICKLY. IN THE BILL THERE IS A TWO-MONTH REPORT BACK SO WE KNOW IT'S STARTED OFF AND WE ARE GOING TO START SEEING RESULTS AND THEN ANOTHER SIX-MONTH REPORT AND THEY DON'T HAVE MORE THAN 12 MONTHS TO COME UP WITH THIS COMMUNITY PLAN AND CONVERSATIONS WITH OUR STAFF HAVE LED US TO EXPECT A COLLABORATIVE APPROACH TO GET US AN ANSWER WELL WITHIN THAT 12-MONTH PERIOD BUT AGAIN WE ARE GOING TO KNOW IN TWO MONTHS IF WE'VE GOTTEN THIS STARTED AND GOING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. I THINK WE ALL AGREE WE WANT TO SPEND THE FUNDS QUICKLY IMU ALSO BUT ALSOIN A WAY THAT HELPS THE COMMUNITY, AND WHAT WE HAVE SO FAR, ABOUT $4.8 MILLION, IT'S A LITTLE SCATTERED AND I'M NOT CONVINCED THAT IT'S A PLAN THAT GETS US TO A GOAL PROVIDING INTERVENTION AND TREATMENT FOR THOSE IN DIRE NEED. THAT IS WHAT I WANT TO SEE COME OUT OF THIS. JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE KNEW AND THE THREE SPONSORS AGREE THAT WE WOULD BE HOLDING EVERYONE TO THAT TIME FRAME. IT'S ALREADY IN MY CLAN TO BE CHECKED ON. >> COUNCILOR BASSAN. >> MR. PRESIDENT, IN ADDITION TO WHAT COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN SAID, IF THERE IS AN YOU ARE SENT MATTER THAT COMES BEFORE THIS CITY TO SPEND SOME OF THESE FUNDS, WE CAN MEET AND VOTE ON THAT. IT DOESN'T MEAN -- I DON'T EVEN LIKE TO SAY THE THE WORD -- BUT HOW THIS PLANNING IS GOING TO BE DONE, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, IF THERE IS SOME PURPOSE THAT GOES BEFORE US THAT IS STRONG AND POWERFUL AND GOOD AND FALLS WITHIN ALL OF THE RIGHT PARAMETERS AND WE NEED IT SOONER THAN THE PLANNING THEN WE CAN VOTE ON THAT AS A COUNCIL AND GET THAT FUNDING ALLOCATED. >> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I CAN'T SEE IT BETTER THAN MY TWO CO-SPONSORS. THE MONEY THAT THE CITY AND COUNCIL ARE GETTING FROM OPIOID MANUFACTURERS AND RETAIL PHARMACIES IS A ONCE-IN-A-LIFETIME FUNDING AND IT IS NOT UNLIMITED AND WE NEED A PLAN TO ADDRESS ADDICTION IN OUR COMMUNITY. WE CANNOT JUST LET IT GO HERE AND THERE AND THEN IT'S GONE. WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE ARE ACCOUNTABLE AND I THINK WORKING WITH THE COUNTY TO ENSURE WE DO NOT DUPLICATE OUR EFFORTS AND WE ARE COORDINATING AND PLANNING TOGETHER, I THINK WE CAN HAVE A GREATER IMPACT ON OUR COMMUNITY. AND I THINK POOLING OUR RESOURCES IS VERY WISE, AND I DO URGE EVERYBODY. >> SEEING NO OTHER DISCUSSION ITEMS ON THE FLOOR WILL THE CLERK CALLING THE ROLL. >> COUNCILOR BASSAN. >> YES. >> COUNCILOR BENTON. >> YES. >> COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >> YES. >> COUNCILOR GROUT. >> YES. >> COUNCILOR JONES. >> YES. >> COUNCILOR -- IS EXCUSED. COUNCILOR PEÑA. >> NO. >> COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. >> YES. >> COUNCILOR DAVIS. >> YES. >> MOTION PASSES. >> THANK YOU, THAT MOTION PASSES. COUNCILORS PEÑA AND GROUT ON 175. >> MR. PRESIDENT, IF I COULD GET HELP WITH THIS BILL, I WOULD APPRECIATE IT BUT I JUST WANTED TO START OFF SAYING THERE WAS A STAFF ERROR. WHEN THE BILL WAS INITIALLY INTRODUCED IT SHOULD HAVE INCLUDED COUNCILOR BENTON AND COUNCILOR SANCHEZ AND I WAS TOLD WE COULD JUST NOT ADD THEM AFTER THE ERROR OCCURRED. WE WOULD HAVE TO DO IT ON THE DIAS. AND WE COULD MOVE ON, AND R-175 IS DIRECTING THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE TO MAINTAIN LANDSCAPING AND STREETDSCAPING, SIGNAGE AND TRANSIT FACILITIES, AND OTHER ASSOCIATES ASSETS. IN ANTICIPATION OF ROUTE 66, THE 100-YEAR ANNIVERSARY COMING UP AND JUST REALLY I THINK YOU KNOW, WE LOOK AT ALL OF OUR CITY STREETS AND OUR MAIN THOROUGH THOROUGHFARES FROM ONE END OF THE CITY TO ANOTHER AND IF WE COULD FOCUS FROM ONE STRETCH TO THE OTHER, I THINK IT WILL DO A LOT TO HELP ENHANCE THE ENTIRE CITY. I THINK THERE IS AN AMENDMENT AND COUNCILOR GROUT IF YOU CAN TAKE IT FROM HERE. >> BEFORE WE DO THAT, COULD YOU ADD THE TWO OTHER COUNCILORS HERE SINCE THEY ARE HERE AND CAN CONSENT, MADAM CLERK. >> AND WE HAVE A FLOOR VOTE ON THIS. AT NUMBER ONE, ON PAGE 2, LINES 5 THROUGH 8, REMOVING THE FOLLOWS. WHEREAS ALTHOUGH THE WESTERN BOUNDARY OF ROUTE 66 ENDS AT 116TH STREET, PRESERVATION OF CENTRAL AVENUE SHOULD BE -- EXTENDED TO 118 STREET BECAUSE OF THE REVITALIZATION POTENTIAL, AND LINE 4, PAGE 3 -- BIBB , OABERNALILLO COUNTY TO MAINTAN STREET LANDSCAPING ON OLD ROUTE 66 BETWEEN THE WESTERN CITY LIMITS AND 118TH STREET. THE EXPLANATION FOR THIS AMENDMENT IS NEEDED TO ENCOURAGE THE JURISDICTIONAL COORDINATION REQUIRES IN ORDER TO CARRY OUT THE INTENT OF THIS RESOLUTION. THE INTENT OF THE SPONSOR WAS TO DIRECT COMPREHENSIVE MAINTENANCE ALONG THE ENTIRE CENTRAL AVENUE AND ROUTE 66 CORRIDOR WITHOUT CONSIDERATION THAT A PORTION OF THIS FALLS OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS. >> I MOVE -- >> SECOND. >> AMOTION AND SECOND FOR A FLOOR AMENDMENT. DISCUSSION? WOULD THE CLERK CALL THE ROLL. >> COUNCILOR BASSAN. >> YES. >> COUNCILOR BENTON. >> YES. >> COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >> YES. >> COUNCILOR GROUT. >> YES. >> COUNCILOR JONES. >> YES. >> COUNCILOR LEWIS. >> EXCUSED. >> COUNCILOR -- THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >> AND BEFORE WE GO FURTHER LET'S GO BACK. WE HAVE -- IS THERE BARAZA OUR ONLY SPEAKER THIS EVENING? >> HE IS NOT AT THIS TIME. >> OKAY, GREAT, WE ARE BACK TO THE SPONSORS. COUNCILOR GROUT QUESTIONS? DISCUSSION, DUE PASS. >> COUNCILOR BASSAN. >> YES. >> COUNCILOR BENTON. >> YES. >> COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >> YES. >> COUNCILOR GROUT. >> YES. >> JOINLER JONES. >> YES. >> COUNCILOR PEÑA. >> YES. >> COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. >> YES. >> COUNCILOR DAVIS. >> YES. >> AND COUNCILOR BENSON, YOU HAVE THE LAST ONE. >> THIS IS A RESOLUTION REQUIRING CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL FOR EXPENDITURE OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING FUNDING. I MOVE A DUE PASS. >> MULTIPLE SECONDS, INCLUDING COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN I HEARD FIRST. >> AT THE LAST MEETING WE HAD A DISCUSSION ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND IT'S A QUESTION I'VE ASKED FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS NOW, AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH THOSE OF YOU WHO SUPPORTED THE 20 MILLION WE PUT IN THE GRT BONDS, SIMILAR TO OUR GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS, REMEMBER THAT ONE, AND I REALLY APPRECIATE EVERYONE STANDING WITH ME TO PUT THIS FUNDING OR A PIECE OF THAT BOND INTO AFFORDABLE HOUSING. AND I THINK I MENTIONED LAST TIME THAT IN ALL OF MY TIME AND ALSO AS A CO-SPONSOR OF THE ORIGINAL AFFORDABLE HOUSING TRUST FUND, I WAS USED TO SEEING IN A CAPITAL BUDGET AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT IT MEAN TO THE PRESS FUNDS, WITH QUITE A FEW PARAMETERS. THAT DOESN'T MEAN THE FUNDING NECESSARILY TO HAVE ALL OF THOSE PARAMETERS. BUT WE BASICALLY PASSED THAT AND IT WENT INTO AFFORDABLE HOUSING BUT THAT WAS ALL. AND THAT FUND AS OF NOW IS ALMOST TOTALLY UNENCUMBERED PARTICULARCALLY. NOW, I'VE SPOKEN WITH DIRECTOR PIERCE AND WE'LL HAVE A CONSIDERATION, BUT BEFORE I DEFER THIS, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK DIRECTOR PIERCE TO COME UP AND GET SOME ASSURANCES BEFORE THE NEXT MEETING WHERE WE CAN STRIKE AN AMENDMENT TO MAKE THE BILL BETTER, AND I HEAR THAT DEPARTMENT HAS PLANS FOR AT LEAST HALF OF THIS MONEY ALL RIGHT, BUT IT'S NOT ENCUMBERED AND WE WANT TO SHOW THAT EXCEPT FOR 100 AND SOME ODD DOLLARS. BUT THE DEPARTMENT HAS NOT BEEN CITING ON THE MONEY BUT RATHER AS PLANS FOR THE MONEY. AND WE WANT TO HAVE THOSE DISCUSSIONS, UNDERSTAND THAT. ONCE WE CLEAR THE AIR WITH REGARDS TO THAT, I DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WHEN WE APPROPRIATE SOMETHING IN THIS -- AT THIS LEVEL OF FUNDING AND I WILL TAKE MY RESPONSIBILITY FOR NOT FIGURING OUT THAT I NEEDED TO PUT SOME MORE LANGUAGE WITH REGARD TO THAT -- THAT WE HAVE OVERSIGHT OF THAT AND UNDERSTAND THE PLAN, EVEN IF IT'S JUST A LIST OF PROJECTS, IF THAT IS WHAT THE PLAN IS. THEN I THINK IT'S PROPER TO HAVE COUNCIL OVERSIGHT WITH WHERE WE ARE GOING WITH THIS CRITICAL NEED IN THE CITY, AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE AND I WILL TURN IT OVER TO THE DIRECTOR -- >> YOU STUCK IT OUT THIS LONG WITH US. >> NOT A WORRY, THANK YOU, COUNCILOR. PRESIDENT, DAVIS AND COUNCILOR BENTON, I APPRECIATE THE DISCUSSION TODAY, COUNCILOR BENTON BECAUSE WHAT I THINK WE ARE SEEING IS THERE IS A PERCEPTION THAT WE ARE NOT SPENDING THE MONEY AND I THINK WHEN YOU AND I SPOKE WE ARE REALLY NAILING IT BECAUSE YOU SAW THE 13 MILLION STILL ON A LEDGEN WHICH ASSUMES WE ARE NOT SPENDING IT BUT WE'VE BEEN MOVING ON THAT MONEY AND WE ARE GRATEFUL FOR THE COUNCIL PUTTING FORWARD THAT 20 MILLION. I KNOW IT WAS NOT IN THE WORKFORCE HOUSING TRUST FUND, THAT DOES MAKE IT MORE FLEXIBLE BUT THOSE BY OUR PROCUREMENT DEVELOPMENT IN AGREEMENTS WILL COME TO COUNCIL. FOR THE 8 OUT OF 20 MILLION WE PUT OUT AN RFP AND WE HAD FOUR, FIVE DIFFERENT RESPONDENTS AND WE VETTED THE PROPOSAL AND THE AWARDEE IS YES HOUSING AND THAT IS $8 MILLION OF THE 20 MILLION BUT YOU STILL SEE BASICALLY THE 20 MILLION ON YOUR LEDGER. 4 MILLION OF THE 20 IS GOING FOR THE ARCHITECT -- OR NOT THE ARCHITECT BUT THE CONTRACTOR FOR SURES DAY, AND WE KNOW WE ARE PURCHASING HOTELS FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING MIXED USE. AND THAT CONTRACT DID NOT COME BEFORE COUNCIL BECAUSE WE USED AN ON-CALL CONTRACTOR. WHEN WE ARE PROCURING SOMETHING AND WE'VE DONE AN RFP, WHETHER IT'S WORKFORCE OR 20 MILLION, IT WILL COME FORWARD, SO THAT ACCOUNTS FOR 12 MILLION OF THE 20. >> [INAUDIBLE] >> I'M SORRY, I THINK THAT WAS IT. >> THAT WAS GREAT AND NOW WE KNOW, BUT WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS HAVE DISCUSSIONS BETWEEN NOW AND OUR NEXT MEETING TO FINE TUNE THIS LANGUAGE A LITTLE BIT MORE AND DESCRIBE HOW WE CAN HAVE ADVANCE NOTICED OF WHERE YOU ARE GOING FOR ANY SIGNIFICANT FAMILIARITY. AMOUNT. >> YES. >> AND WE'LL ALL BE IN THE KNOW, AND WE CAN -- WE ARE JUST ASKING OF YOU -- ASKING -- WELL, ACTUALLY -- BEFORE, WHEN THE NEXT ENCUMBRANCE COMES UP. >> YES. >> AND AS LONG AS I HAVE YOUR ASSURANCE WE ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE ANY NEW ONES POP UP IN THE NEXT WEEKS, WE ARE IN GREAT SHAPE. >> RIGHT, RIGHT. >> -- AND WITH YOU AND YOUR DEPARTMENT. >> COUNCILOR DAVIS AND COUNCILOR BENTON, WE WOULD APPRECIATE THAT ON-GOING DIALOGUE, SO YOU SEE WHERE WE ARE MOVING ON THIS. SITTING ON THE MONEY IS NOT ACCURATE. IT DOES MAKE TIME TO PUT AUTO ON RFP AND EVALUATE IT, AND I WOULD LIKE TO GET THIS MOVING GOURD MOVING FORWARDBECAUSE WE HAD THN LAST TIME, IT WILL REQUIRE THESE FUNDS TO KEEP MOVERRING IN THIS WAY AND HAVE GOOD DIALOGUE BORT BACKAND FORTH WITH THE CITY COUL AND WHERE WE ARE GOING WITH THESE DOLLARS. >> THAT THESE WERE NOT IN THE TRUST FUND, IN A WAY IT'S MORE NIMBLE AND THERE ARE MORE THINGS WE CAN DO WITH THAT, AND FOR FUTURE COUNCILS STARTING JANUARY 1, THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING TO DISCUSS BETWEEN ADMINISTRATION OFFICIALS AND OUR POLICIES ON HOW WE APPROPRIATE FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECTS. AND THAT IS THE KIND OF THE SAME THING WE HAVE ALWAYS DONE. THE EXPENDITURES OVER THE YEARS -- IT WAS ACTUALLY A SET-ASIDE, WHEN THE TRUST FUND WAS FIRST CREATED AND IT WAS LIKE A SET AMOUNT, I BELIEVE OF THE CAPITAL BUDGET. THAT WENT AWAY AND THE NUMBERS WENT WAY DOWN AND WE WERE ALWAYS FIGHTING TO TRY TO GET BACK BACK UP AND A COUPLE OTHER COUNCILORS AND I WERE ALWAYS BEATING THE DRUM FOR THIS ADMINISTRATION AND THE LAST ONE TO MAXIMIZE THE MONEY FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING. AND I THINK IT'S ON EVERYONE'S MIND RIGHT NOW, AND THAT IS THAT GOOD. WE NEED AS A COMMUNITY TO CONTINUE TO HAVE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND HOW WE ARE GOING TOO MAKE IT HAPPEN, IN ALL ITS FORM. THANK YOU. DIRECTOR PIERCE, I WILL MOVE A DEFERRAL UNTIL OUR NEXT MEETING. MEETING.>> THAT WILL TAKE US UNL NOVEMBER 6, A WEDNESDAY BECAUSE OF -- A MOTION AND SECOND, ALL NO, SIR IN FAVOR, WILL THE CLERK CALL THE ROLL. >> COUNCILOR BASSAN. >> YES. >> COUNCILOR BENTON. >> YES. >> COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >> YES. >> COUNCILOR GROUT. >> YES. >> COUNCILOR JONES. >> YES. >> COUNCILOR LEWIS IS EXCUSED. COUNCILOR PEÑA. >> YES. >> COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. >> YES. >> COUNCILOR DAVIS. >> YES, THAT PASSES UNANIMOUS. >> ONE QUICK SCHEDULING NOTE TO REMIND WHILE WE ARE ALL IN THE SAME ROOM, WE HAVE OUR MEETING ON THE 8TH AND THE WEEK OF THE 20TH AND THAT WILL BE THE LAST TIME TO GET ANYTHING IN FOR THE DECEMBER 6 MEETING FOR THE FIRST MEETING IN DECEMBER, THE ONLY ONE WE ARE PLANNING TO HAVE AT THE MOMENT, SO WE ARE DOWN TO THE WIRE AND WE NEED THAT STUFF TO OUR STAFF NO LATER THAN OUR NEXT MEETING TO GET THAT SCHEDULED. OTHERWISE IT'S GOING TO ROLL OVER TO JANUARY AND THAT MEETING IS ALMOST AT THE END OF JANUARY BECAUSE OF THE ROLL-OUTS WITH NEW COUNCILORS. WE ARE ALMOST OUT OF TIME, JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY HEARS THAT AND OUR SCHEDULES. THANKS TO ALL. HAVE A GOOD WEEK.