e e e e e e e all right are we ready up here yeah all right 6:30 let's call the meeting order to do the Pledge of Allegiance please stand I pledge alleg to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible andice thank you roll call please council member Cole here council member schwe here council member Wong here council member nordby here mayor mongi here can I get a motion to adopt the agenda please so move so move council member schweer second second council member Cole all those in favor say I I I I all right all right thank you m next up a consent agenda item a October 1st 2024 Workshop minutes Item B October 1st 2024 city council meeting minutes item C General claims of 1, 15618 393 item D HRA claims of $ 32,43 624 item e resolution approving the 2025 scor Grand application item F resolution accepting donations for September of 2024 item G application for a temporary on sale liquor license for exempt permit for the North our Northstar Museum of scouting memorabilia Inc Saturday November 9th 2024 item H application for a charitable gambling permit to conduct excluded Bingo by the Knights of Columbus Council 4967 on November 23rd 2024 item I approved conditional use permit application for 2586 7th Avenue East item J approve purchase of class 202s electric meters uh item K Ramsey County roadway classification change resolution of support uh item L building permits for September 2024 item M approved labor contracts andus between the city of North St Paul and Teamsters public and law enforcement employees union local 320 which is the Public Works in electric and law enforcement labor Services local 211 which is Patrol and local 298 which is Sergeants thank you very much any council member want to pull anything I would like to pull item I all right anybody else not throw ey down there make that what d uh y all right can I get a motion to pass the consent agenda so moved so moved council member s second second council member Norby all those in favor say I I I thank you we have our three minutes open to the public we'll start with uh Dean Madison I said mat excuse me come on up address please welcome hi my name is Dean mat and I live at 2096 mcnight Road it's a Southeast Corner 7th Avenue mcnight Road um we got a problem with the the big trucks coming down mcnight Road from the project up there on ler mcnight they're skidding down the road they're running their Jake breakes and so on so forth and there's been a problem with people running the red lights at 7th mcnight there's been loud Vehicles not only motorcycles but all kinds of has allowed vehicles at all hours of the night I've contacted the police department three separate times nothing's been done that I can notice but I just think somebody should be able to uh uh Patrol that a little better because somebody's going to get her or get killed okay see manre will take note of that yes we will all right appreciate you thank you thank you for coming John schul John schul 2750 Chisum Avenue I'll take uh POS or a statement that I agree with that I came from somewhere on mcnight man those big trucks that are on there holy cow you've all seen this has been provided to you in various emails this was just one item that I pulled off it's not just myself that works on this there's a member of our group that loves doing data requests and then shows it to us but this one got me I just couldn't believe it this is a request for a credit card purchase in the form say says right on the top $2,000 no more than $2,000 and you can see what the request was for 26932 now I've attended a lot of meetings here that have dealt with the problem with the credit cards that the uh office of state auditor issued a letter in May of 19 or 2023 that you didn't get to until sometime in July to take it up or was it August God knows what the length of time it was that the uh you took interest in seeing what it was all about but this one is just gross a $2,000 limitation on the form and it says that there's going to be a purchase of $2,600 and it's for the LMC annual conference for Zoom what are we doing with the leag of Minnesota City uh you know this was part of your uh analysis of what's going on I'll uh council member nney nordby asked do we have any responsibilities in this and the uh City attorney said nope just go ahead and do whatever sign off who cares does anyone care thank you all right next anybody else no all right next up is a special hearing um special assessment hearing for unpaid bills and authorizing the city of North St Paul to certified the County's auditor's office off all unpaid fees did you want to talk to that at all Dan Finance director Winnick good evening mayor um council members um this is the annual process uh to uh certify onto the property tax system for any unpaid bills they include the water sewer garbage does not include our electric um if you remember we had a a there was an item for holding of the public hearing um by Statute we have to send out letters which we've done to all of the res ents um that um are identified underneath this um they have time um to contact us to make you know payment for it even after this public hearing they have 30 days um to pay if uh there's even part of the statute that if they were to um dispute it um that there's avenues for them to do that too but at the end of 30 days whatever hasn't been paid we will certify and it'll be on uh the property taxes that are paid in 2025 um there's three resolutions that are here um one for uh North St Paul properties one for Maplewood properties and then there's one uh for it contains one North St Paul property that's actually built by the city of Oakdale um for water um and so uh they have given that to us because we're in Ramsey County we can certifi to Ramsey County they're in Washington County so that's why we end up having that one um right now the totals of all of those items is a little over $26,000 without any interest or fees and again if they pay it in the next 30 days there will be no interest and fees um after that point in time then um there's interest that'll um be applied um to that 6% for the solid waste and 10% for all of the other um fees so need to have a city Council take action um to pass these resolutions and again um they have 30 days to pay at the end of that point then we will certify that amount to Ramsey County and be put onto their property taxes and in the last packet when we had the public hearing had put together this was um asked a few years ago so we did it last year we did it this year kind of given some sort of historical information I think actually council member Wong had asked for for this this to kind of look at what kind of the dollar amounts um that have been certified or or been put out there in public Hearing in the past uh there there was an uptick in 2023 um prior to that it was um you know about 16,000 22,000 and 21 a little over 15 and 22 last year it ticked up to 31,000 this year we were at 299 to start the process um we're at 26,000 now um and then we do anticipate that it goes it and it has it goes down um before the 30 days are up and that we actually certify it um there actually are some property owners that um like it just to go on their property tax bill and then they end up paying it um but um yeah so um again need to have uh the three resolutions um and again we'll certify the exact amount that's owed um after the 30 days expire any questions with that no no any questions any do we have to do each one individually you have to open it up to the public correct so yeah yeah you have to open it up to the public y there's any public comments on uh 6:42 is open up to the public any comments about this if not we will close the public part of it at 642 643 give a minute thank you all right now we need to do the votes on it um yes on the that there's three resolutions would you read the first one I'll just read the front top to it um so it is um it is a resolution approving assessment to properties for unpaid water Wastewater Environmental uity uh street lights Solid Waste and Recycling for North St Paul properties all right can I get a motion on this please so move so move council member Wong second second second council member Norby all those in favor say I I I uh the second resolution is a resolution approving assessments du properties for unpaid water Wastewater environmental utility and recycling for Maplewood properties so moved thank so moved by council member Cole second second council member Wong all those in favor say I I I and the third is a resolution approving assessment to properties for unpaid water Wastewater environmental utility street lights Solid Waste and Recycling for North St Paul properties build by the city of Oakdale can I have a motion please so move council member swe second second council member Norby switched up a little bit that's good all those in favor say I hi hi thank you on the ball that's right trying to screw me up with the names once again thank you thank you did I I heard all right I didn't say sh forgot the SH in your name so why we SH now all right next all right uh move on to the city business action items and recommendations first item up is discuss Community Center feasibility study consultant so we posted for a feasibility study um we ended up getting six um proposals back from uh contractors so we formed a committee internal to the city of five people and uh we created a list to um base that on uh what their scores were for the criteria um so we based it on consulting firm and key project staff experience proven track record in completing similar projects uh project approach to comp or to completing the project Consultants familiarity with uh recreation facility programming and architecture uh proposed project schedule and proposed consultant cost um so we did score these with that group uh the riew of the committee came up with uh several key staff to review the proposals uh staff committee met to discuss the findings and share the overall score results the Review Committee discussed the following items when scoring the propos community outreach and engagement strategies uh overall programming and operational costs does the consultant have the ability to carry out the defined scope of the services what expertise does the consultant have in similar industry areas public versus private uh has the proposed Consulting team worked together in previous projects in similar industry um and after to discussion and scoring City staff reviewed the committee recommendations and the to the city council as being eapc Architects um so City staff is looking for direction from Council to proceed with creating a feasibility study agreementcontract with them U with the selected consultant final agreement will come back to the city council for formal approval at a future meeting date can you speak to some of the um uh uh different features or um type of work that you appreciated about this um firm compared to the others why did it stand out um they were pretty close between that firm and one other firm but overall um you know it was their layout their experience with um other actually recreational programs um and Community uh centers um they had a pretty in-depth approach to the projects um and keeping staff up to date as they're working their way through that process um just good round experience for something like this specifically so great thank you yeah um and just for my own understanding of sorry a vote today means that you contact this company you negotiate all the details of the contract with them and then that contract is brought back for us is that an statement corre that's correct yes thank you and when do you suspect that contract to be ready so we're going to get together back with the committee that we put together um and reach out to see if they have any other specific questions that maybe to set up an interview with them and bring in a representative from that company and then um talk details and make sure that uh they're covering areas that the city finds important as well um for me I'm a little concerned of $90,000 we're looking at here just under correct just under $90,000 which is what a one and a quarter per would be considered our levy on that type of thing so and what was the range so we can hear it from the range of these different ones the six uh anywhere from 28 to 172 was the range of the six different proposals it's quite the range very much so I just my concern is that the price of $90,000 seems to be quite steep so looking for a recommendation for approval of working on pulling that contract together to bring back to you so moved it's all moved Council member Wong second second council member schweer all those in favor say I I I against nay all right next item up is Item B the 2024 crack seal project approved change order number one city engineer Morgan Dolly here just discuss thank you Mr Mayor members of the council um as has been done before this is uh the next two items on your agenda uh go together so if it's pleases uh Council I'll run through both of them and you can have two separate considerations for action on each of them uh this is pertaining to the 2024 crack sealing project so just regular Street Maintenance that we do every two to three years uh on different roadways um the first item under our consideration is a change order uh to increase the contract amount to include some additional work that Public Works wanted to include in the project and identified separate uh funding for in terms of unspent uh Street Maintenance dollars uh pretty much the contractor did all of the streets as a part of the project and uh we were right on the button in terms of the quantities and the amount and so they finished all the street work actually went a little bit over but they agreed to tow the line to the contract amount uh but Public Works um wanted to have a look at the Public Works parking lot so that area of the yard there um could have been included but was not originally intended as a recipient for crack ceiling however doing it now um would be able to potentially uh secure the pricing in this particular contract as opposed to waiting for future years uh so looking for the ability for the contractor to complete that work with the bid prices and we negotiated no additional mobilization charges it was a favorable opportunity to get that additional work done at the same time right and so change order number one is in the amount of uh 4 $ 1,121 184 to cover that additional uh square footage area within the Public Works parking lot yard uh that ceiling of the cracks is something that will be good for another three years I don't remember the last time it was done but we help uh lengthen the lifespan of that parking lot before any sort of like significant major maintenance is needed on the parking lot uh pavement um so again that's your first uh consideration is approving change order number one and then uh following that is just approval of uh pay vulture number five and I think it's five and final so it's a just one and done or I'm sorry number one and final so it's just one payment and a final uh to cover again all of the street work that was done is originally conceived plus the addition of that uh additional parking lot work so with that uh I will stand for any questions the council might have prior to considering both of those items and the second item of the two is a resol ution in keeping with kind of standard practice we do uh approve final payments by resolution sounds good any questions anyone if not can I get a motion for the first one to approve the change order for number one so move so move council member schweer second second council member Norby all those in favor say I I thank you very much number two pay approve the final voucher and final payment okay have a motion so moved so moved counc member Norby second second council member Cole all those in favor say hi hi thank you thank you Mr Mayor appreciate your time all right and item D brought down from consent and consent agenda for Approved conditional use permit application for 2586 7th Avenue East um I am the one that pulled this um so I'd like to start out with um I pulled it but I strongly recommend everyone approve it I did not pull this because I am not in favor of it I I think um it is my intention to vote Yes and make the motion to approve this um the reason I pulled this is because this highlighted um in in my two years here some of the more complaints I've gotten as a city council member that the businesses along main seat Street um can somewhat cause grumblings from the residents near them now um I they also bought house right next to commercial property so in cases like this you have building owners and residents doing everything by the book doing everything right and coming ask for a uh permit but it still is creating a little bit of friction we'll say with with the local residents and um there there's nothing more that the building owners or residents of those buildings can do um so I because of the thought process I just wanted to pull it and bring it to your attention and my thought is maybe in the future we could have a workshop um to discuss residential parking near the downtown area to see if there was something we could do to alleviate some of the friction when we have building owners and residents um doing everything by the book and and everything that we ask of them and more so um just talk about it like I say as a council member over the two years this is probably one of the top complaints I've gotten for the people that are by or whole downtown um the amount of commercial proper parking that is happening in front of their residents so like I say um I'm going to make a motion to approve this um just wanted to bring it to your attention and thought that this might be a good Catalyst for a future Workshop to talk about um the residential Park in buyer downtown thank you I know we did a parking study two years ago whenever I started and we counted up like was at 700 and some spots in public parking so I think people are just used to just not wanting to walk and move so if we can you know that's the type of thing I think if we'd get out there more we have a lot across the street from that samberg's we have the lot behind it we got the big lot behind K&J so I think we do have plenty of parking it's just we have to make sure people know and we can have respect towards the res I think that would help indeed okay all right can I get a motion for this council member schweer second council member Norby all those in favor say I I I thank you all right next up is reports of city manager and departments uh start off with uh our electric director just welcomed their second new baby so he's off next couple weeks with the new Avery so beautiful little child that he has there got some pictures which is great um also we had two of our linemen that responded to the mutual Aid request down in GMI Florida they did go down there and help um there was uh so there were 14 utilities with 28 um people from Minnesota that went down there but it went from 22 different states they had over 700 Public Utilities that responded um and they had 40 to 50,000 line Personnel down there that went down to help um so CMI is kind of in the middle of the State uh the storm did kind of wobble a bit right before they made landfall and it went South further so they didn't get hit as hard as they thought they were going to get they worked for a day there and then uh requested help for the or Orlando area and within two days they got back what they needed to do and they hit the road and came back so then they just got back this afternoon so uh I think they're taking a day to rest they've been pretty busy well deserved yeah they did a great job seen one of their pictures of a nice alligator in the middle of a pond where they were working by so um aa's been busy with uh website update uh just starting that process now about every couple of years that they do that so expect more to come when you people come to our website um we also have a candidate Forum coming up on October 24th at 6 p.m. at the legion if anybody's interested in seeing the new candidate out there um Community Development they are working on fee schedule update um and also working on a new residential guide for people coming to the city maybe having a packet together for things to expect phone numbers to have um so we used to have that once upon a time that was a while ago but putting that together um finances working hard with all the budget stuff of course uh working with the department heads getting together sip numbers and now pulling together all the facility assessments numbers um electric has been busy with their underground they have kind of much finished up the Hazel area over in Maplewood Jennifer Lane area that was a big project for him um they'll be jumping over to Delaware and 17th getting the power uh all set in place for the new duplexes that are going in over there um they also started digging in for lights up at Casey lake so we'll be adding that soon hopefully have that lit up before the winter sets in you can't walk around the lake in your jammies anymore ccil member Cole we'll see you hate it when that happens uh as part of sip funding electric has uh picked up uh their one of the bucket trucks and also a generator today that came in so that's good for them uh Public Works been busy with hydrant flushing they're about 3/4 of the way done through the city uh pavement preservation with uh 6 Street Charles and Eldridge is underway they've got the first layer down they're raising the irons and they'll get to second layer probably next week um for out of the six hydrants that uh they're replacing right now is done um and the EAC grant money is complete now they have they've ground out the stumps and planted the new trees for the city part of it so they had was it 90 Boulevard trees that were removed per that grant that was really great uh PD there uh newest officer that they brought on board uh is now fully trained in and can be out on his own now um they have two more starting um these will be not laterals but they're new PD Officers coming in starting the 28th so they'll be in the academy for the first two weeks and then starting to work out in the field um they've been busy also working with the career days around uh Hanah and Tech had one and they sent over four officers and had some good response to that and people making phone calls and getting a hold of them um fire had two Captain positions that they just filled for the pay on call um they got three new applicants for the fire personnel and they just finished up fire prevention week last week by visiting all the schools and then at the second council meeting in November we'll have the poster contest yeah that's always fun and that's all I have thank you very much we'll take a lot of pictures for you so you can see the I know aren't they that's for sure cut yes also Orby um the last Planning Commission we had uh we just voted on that uh the conditional use permit for the uh property on 7th and the next Planning Commission will be November 7 thank you very much council member Wong um the last meeting the group kind of was wrapping up some of their projects and um I think they're trying to get one more utility box wrap before the end of the year um and then um they're yeah going to meet uh see I think they're taking a little bit of like rest now somewhat um but I think the next meeting will be the first Wednesday of November which is November 6th here at 6:30 in the chambers thank you very much Cil M I don't have anything for W the meeting is next Wednesday here in council chambers okay member Cole the October 8A meeting was cancelled uh so we look forward to everyone on November the 12th here in Council of Chambers 4 o' nice thank you very much General business council member Norby um the next uh city council meeting would be uh November 5th but because that's voting day it is not happening that day and I just encourage everyone to go out and vote thank you council member Wong like the way I stopped there I just B did it well done thank you um let's see I attended the um Community input session at the um Casey Lake Park with HJ on Thursday I think it was one of two but talking to some of the Commissioners and they said that like turnout was really good particularly on the first night so um it sounds like they're getting a lot of good feedback from from the public so um it was it was good to see people out there um and putting their stickers on there um and voting so um and I think other than that I don't have anything okay thank you very much anything I don't have anything remember Co have nothing tonight nothing tonight all right it's five weeks until we're back here I know yes um for us we had the booya that was there unfortunately I was at an event so I called him up and asked him if he could grab me a couple to goers containers and he said they were all sold out so that it was the mixed emotions I was glad that they sold out but I wasn't glad because I didn't get any so that was uh that's when I called Jason fire our fire chief Jason um I met um Brian and I met with the school board superintendant so the superintendent and the mayors of with was Maplewood Oakdale and myself there so we talked about the school year um starting off so far they said the school year started off pretty well so everything is is going going along well so she said they're um able to uh meet the expectations that they were doing there it's uh it's been smooth so it's been very nice so she appreciated that um we did get into the discussion about fields and we got a discussion about the community center as well and I asked her about you know the community center and um there they don't want to partner with us because um I asked that question be able to use it every once in a while was something that she mentioned but uh we talked about partnership and uh they don't have a need for that right now as far as how that goes maybe every once in a while type of thing would be all they would need so we discuss that plus the fields and everything else so anything I missed as far as the what we talked about just a good chance to get together yeah you're puty talk about concerns and Direction they're moving so it was just a good meeting it's a real good meeting they um all of us together all the all the um administrators managers plus the the Mayors so it was a good it was good good to get together be able to start off the school year we're going to do that in the spring again we're trying to get back to the twice a year so that went well if there's nothing else I encourage what council member Norby said get everybody out to vote and it's it's coming quick and uh nothing else called for adjournment so move so move council member Wong second second council member Cole all those in favor say I hi I made it through a meeting woohoo