[Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] e [Music] [Music] [Applause] [Music] oh [Music] [Music] you're just getting older all right good afternoon everyone um I want to call the consent an action review meeting of the Charlotte City Council to order and we'll start with introductions and we'll start with Miss Molina start oh Ariel Smith lead city clerk good evening I'm Mar Molina I represent District 5 good evening Dante Anderson mayor protim district one F LA mayor Marcus Jones city manager Ed dggs district 7 tarp car 6 Lana mayfeld council member at large Patrick Baker City attorney all right so we're now called we've had our introductions um we have consent items first and so is there anyone that would like to have any item for a separate vote Miss Mayfield thank you madam mayor um if you what number and then cuz I've got another 12 and council member watlington had identified 10 and 11 they responded to in here but definitely number 12 all right 12 10 and 11 a proxy that's well she'll be back in um and then any comments that Council would have about any item on the consent agenda Madame mayor I would like to make a comment about 12 but should I hold it since we're I think you should hold it since it's going to be a separate item thank you so I'm hearing that we now know 12 12 10 and 11 will be a separate vote do I have a motion to allow consent agenda items 10 through 14 with the exception of those three be considered as a motion so move Madam mayor I have a motion and a a second second second any further discussion given none all in favor do we have yes all in favor that passes all right so the items that we have that are been suggested for a separate comment the first one I believe is Miss Mayfields which was 12 and so item 12 is the construction of mat Avenue Bridge Ste Street skate project so with that questions by who would Miss Mayfield I want to recognize you thank you madam [Music] mayor we been having a lot of conversations with CBI and looking at how we approve contracts and minority participation this particular project we has been in discussion I think since around December we've been having a conversation with staff long before that but this particular project for the construct maon Avenue Bridge streetscape is a 12 milon 885,000 project this particular project had a three had a 7% and a 3% goal on it one of the things that council member Mitchell and I was hoping he would have been finished with work to be here to speak to it but one of the concerns that we have had and we've shared with staff is these hard bids and how do we truly break up these contracts in the way to address our goals that we've established for participation so this one's for the police station the firehouses when we do construction manager RIS Sears those hard bids are creating some challenges that's already been identified we're looking at it for future projects but at some point we have to stop saying on the next one we'll try to get it right and we'll do better we had an opportunity with this one the bid wasn't released until February this was a great opportunity to really look at how we're creating more opportunities for our MBE our mwbes and our sbes at a greater level than the 7 and 3% and and or trying to combine the two saying that 10% I personally am not supporting this but I think we need to have a very clear conversation with whether that's C Council approving the language I believe we've already approved some language language with CBI in order for us to move forward and making sure we're having true Equitable opportunities for the businesses that we are telling we want you to sign up to do business with the city of Charlotte and then when it comes time to do business with the city of Charlotte we create obstacles that make make a greater challenge for those businesses thank you any other comment mayor protim thank you madam mayor um I want to say that uh this particular project is very exciting to see it um tonight on the agenda district one residents are very excited for this project even last term I met with uh residents from NOA Villa Heights and neighboring uh other communities to talk about the high Injury Network and the accidents that were going on and they have known about this project being in development and are very excited to see it on the agenda tonight because it will open up uh P pedestrian accessibility and connect to the Charlotte cross trail and the blue line extension in ways that hasn't existed in this particular Corridor and um I just want I've gotten lots of letters of support for this from the Nota Business Association and other residents within the community and so I just want to say I'm very excited to see this as as phase one there's a phase two that is a part of the sedat overall plan um that's further down the line but this will really give a facelift to the maton bridge um in a way that has been much needed over the years and I'm also glad that as we talk about CBI that in this particular bid we did meet our current policy um levels for our minority and women uh businesses to participate so very excited to support this and I hope the rest of my colleagues will as well thank you all right Miss watlington did you have a comment um Miss watlington yep um I think probably most of us are excited about the content of the project U we've seen it for some time um my questions are similar to council Mayfields around the procurement process so Mr maner could you please provide some color as to what we're doing not just kicking this can down the road for the next time sure so thank you do Dr watlington so I think a couple things going on I want to make it clear that I am in favor of these alternative uh delivery methods as opposed of just always going with with low bid I think you know as you start to think about it some would suggest that some of these alternative alternate delivery methods May cost you more but what I want to make sure that we do is we take the a look at not only something like construction manager at risk but also the low bed and look at it over time and the change orders that come to it so you have a little bit of risk up front forance let's say um you know in the back what we have done we've listened is we've taken the vertical from the general fund so we start to think about water um Enterprise fund they do a lot more construction manager at risk and so what we're doing is we bundled three projects there were upcoming projects one police station two Forest stations to see how the construction manager at risk will will occur what's happening now we're starting to look at the vertical horizontal and we can do with those projects and um to your point not kicking the down can down the road and you know not listening to council what we're trying to see is for those projects where they are in the cycle and are there some opportunities now with the horizontal projects to also look at these alternative um method so U that's where we are again did the vertical now we're looking at what we can do differently with the horizontal thank you and just as a followup when can we expect to see that yes what we're doing is looking at all the projects so you think about all the projects that we do and see where they are in um I guess the the schedule but maybe more importantly like when we start to think about uh vertical we say anything 5 million or more let's start to look at that so we want to try to figure out what's the right number what's The Sweet Spot and where are those projects that really haven't even begun that we can start to say well we're going to use this alternative method for those projects so should we expect to see that within the quarter I I'll look at Sean oh I'm getting the nod yes how's that okay thank you that's significant uh to me I want it's important to me that I hear a plan and a path forward um because like I said I definitely share the same concern that my colleague has uh noted in regards to what we are doing with what we control to ensure opportunity thank you all right so we've had a discussion on item 12 do I have a motion to approve item 12 so moved second we have a motion and a second any further discussion hearing none all in favor please raise your hand motion I'm Sor wor item 12 item 12 the math that's in Bridge anyone oppose we have Miss mayi in opposition all right so um that takes us through that item and so now we will move to item 10 Miss watlington was did you have a question about item 10 I did I followed up again after I got this and I got the answer to the question I asked thanks so do I have a motion from you we have a motion is there a second any further discussion all in favor of adoption of the audiovisual equipment and installation for the fire training academy raise your hands all right all right that's adopted and then the next item that we had was 11 um Miss watlington did you have we to approve all right we have a motion to approve in a second any further discussion hearing no discussion all in favor please say I hi hi all right raise your hand and so now that completes our consent agenda items um so now we'll move to the city manager for an overview of our um conversation for this evening thank you mayor and members of counc we have two items on the uh action review tonight first we'll have a our final uh budget let's call it Department um presentation and it's the aviation budget Outlook and we'll have our CEO and CFO for U the airport here tonight and then we will have a an update on our affordable housing funding U this will be I believe the um the last one that we bring to you in this fiscal year and excited about um showing you the recommendations from the staff so with that mayor if there no questions we'll turn it over to Haley all right Miss entry good evening Madam mayor I think do you need to stand at the podium hello can you hear me with this you prefer me to stand at right I think if you could do use the podium I'm not sure if there's a mic okay you're good thank you good evening Madame mayor Mr manager and council members my name is Haley Gentry and I'm the CEO for the Charlotte Airport and we're really happy to be with you tonight to be able to share a glimpse of our budget for the upcoming year we um I also have Mike Hill who's our airport CFO and he will be participating in the presentation as well so this presentation you'll see that it has the um budget and governance and intergovernmental Relations Committee This was um supposed to be presented a week or so ago and um so please Overlook that we recycled the same presentation I will tell you before we get started that this is not meant to be a comprehensive deep dive because it was going before the committee it is a summary of what to expect this year and it is a summary of all that is currently impacting our budget in the upcoming fiscal year if any of you have additional questions or would like to take a deeper dive I would be happy to do that with you um outside of this meeting at any time are you driving okay you can see here this is um General fastbacks you've seen this before this as you know we serve as American Airlines second largest Hub and we are the seventh busiest airport in the world in case you haven't heard we broke a record last year that was 53.4 Million passengers that was our strongest year ever and of course um one of the fastest recovering airports from from the covid pandemic perhaps the most important fact on this page is the um area of economic impact as you can see we represent 5% of the state's gross domestic product and we know that that is low the economic impact of 32 billion is only reflective of North Carolina this study is done by North Carolina's Department of Aviation and so it does not represent South Carolina we are currently in the process of reviewing the economic impact of South Carolina we know we have a lot of employees that live in South Carolina we fly both Flags out front uh we do serve as the largest airport of both Carolinas so we will be updating that number to reflect um the impact of that but that is the latest number that we have so so let's jump into the budget every year um much like Council does we follow up with our budget priorities after you have set your priorities and they are reflective of what our goals are for the year they are reflective of what is occurring in the environment so I'm going to give you a little glimpse into what we're expecting right now Charlotte is the fastest growing airport if you look at available seats on the market in the country and that is really amazing 16% higher this year is expected than last year our passenger forecast are certainly going to stress the operation as well as is the facility we also have no federal grants in this upcoming year when I say no federal grants I mean covid grants we have supplemented the past four years uh the operation the airport um has been I think very generous and how we've used those funds and they have gone directly to the airlines the ones that were not designated for other uses about 370 million so that is coming out of the budget for this year we've also got increased uh activity and increased square footage opening we expect to open 20% more in our facility this year with the addition of concourse a and with more terminal Lobby space being completed and then we also have unfunded Federal mandates so we had all of that going into setting our priorities and I think it speaks um very well to why we chose what we did working smarter mitigating risk and then of course responding to the immediate growth that is on our doorstep no ponent intended what are we doing to respond to those um demands those needs how are we going to ensure we can serve our customers our utilities are higher our credit card uh transactions are higher all of the um consumables in the terminal building there are increases to all of that so as we move forward and you can see what's been happening Charlotte has a very unique story to sell to to tell excuse me um our fiscal years are a little bit these numbers are a little bit different than what you are probably familiar with our calendar year but they're very close and you see the trend which is the important part of this ending the Year this year we are projected to hit 60 million passengers from 53 million to 60 million that's the punchline of this whole present a it really is um the the Hub is driving the growth in Charlotte American has been very very direct very out there talking about their commitments to Dallas and to Charlotte their two largest hubs and they are putting that uh putting their money where their mouth is so to speak and putting that plan into action the growth of the local population is also driving some of what you're seeing here here as you know Charlotte is a very popular place for people to relocate to our local boardings used to be around 20 to 25% of our entire traffic our most recent local boardings were 33% that gives you some indication of um some of the the tremendous growth we're experiencing all of our airlines are growing in Charlotte last year when we did our financing um and shared that information and Council took action on it we worked with our Consultants to prepare a forecast the forecast during last year's financing actually had us reaching 60 million passengers 5 years from now so we have just hit the fast forward button by five years it's not the eclipse effect I promise Mike you want to pick it up from here yeah sure thanks Haley uh good afternoon and thanks again for the opportunity always really enjoy an to come and talk about the airport and talk about our priorities and this in my 28-year career is unprecedented what what's what we're experiencing now it's a very exciting time to be a part of the city to be a part of the airport um Haley hit on a number of the key drivers for the budget but um in terms of our process this year really has been transformative starting first with looking at how best and be most effective to recover from the covid pandemic um we were the fastest growing and recovering airport in the entire country follow the co pandemic and then shifting gears straight into how are we going to Service uh over 50 million people using our terminal facilities in the midst of a construction environment um it's I'm sure you all have seen out there the the the breadth of the construction activity that's occurring is very significant in the midst of a of a very busy operation um presents it lots of challenges in that regard um shortly after we had gone through our own internal budget process um our friends with American Airlines and some of the other Carri had reached out and expressed interest in expanding service levels above uh levels that are already record-breaking um as Haley mentioned right before the pandemic we hit the $50 million I mean the 50 million passenger Mark um that year and that was um a very exciting time but now pushing 60 million people that's a 20% increase in in passenger levels in a building that is 20% larger thankfully um we did not stop uh the construction program during the pandemic thankfully we um we pursued and continued that ambitious program that is really already proving uh yields and benefits to our customers during the pandemic but all of this growth is going to come at a at a cost we have to be able to be responsive we have to respond to the needs of the passengers and the community this community deserves a worldclass airport and this budget um proposes to give us just that by focusing on contracts specifically related to passenger activities um Haley hit on a couple of the large ones being uh janitorial as an example much higher utilities a bigger building higher rates um are contributing to to increase budget pressures also our baggage handling system is another example of of really necessary Investments that need to be made not only in expanding the facility but also uh making sure that the existing assets are being serviced with preventative maintenance and doing other things that we need to do as an airport to protect our investment so overall in total um $32 million operating budget is the request um compared to a $48 87 million total operating budget uh on the revenue side um so not only will we be experiencing some increases in the expense spending to respond to the increasing activity levels but those increased activity levels bring with them the opportunity for us to uh to revisit especially a non-airline revenue portfolio we really want to be sensitive to to the cost structure of the airlines we it's mutually um in the interest of both the airport and the airlines for us to keep that cost structure low but also to to look at things like parking inter terminal concession food beverage retail advertising rental car and all the other different uh Revenue sources of the airport um we want to focus on those and that's that's what we have in in the budget this year so total uh net revenues um at a record level of $186 million is what we're forecasting for the coming fiscal year hit on this a little bit earlier here but um just wanted to provide a brief update on the capital program I know you all most familiar with destination CLT multi-billion dollar uh Capital expansion program of the airport as we're starting to wrap up that program um with two signature projects both currently under construction mentioned earlier the terminal Lobby Expansion Project $600 million expansion of all levels of the terminal building um if any of you all had had traveled over the spring break it was a savior um to have that extra SP and there's a completely different passenger experience um for for the folks especially in the Charlotte Community who use who use this airport um not so much for the connecting customers who are already on the secured side but this really is going to uh transform the the the experience for everyone um that project is currently slated um it's it's on budget and on target to open in 18 months so that will be something that we will all be looking forward to celebrating and then the other signature project being if once we accommodate the needs on the land side um of the of the facility also focusing on the air side needs of the facility um we've identified an opportunity to construct a billion dollar Runway that's going to enhance our Airfield capacity by about 20% per year so another very exciting project uh that Runway is anticipated to open in a couple years in around September of 2027 is when we anticipate the runway to be open um other projects that are uh coming soon um The Concourse a phase 2 Expansion Project which adds 10 additional Gates um we are going to relocate Delta Airlines off of the existing a concourse and relocate them on to this new 10 gate Concourse to create room for both The Hub and carrier American and also to give the city some additional um capacity uh as we want to to try to control some of the gate capacity to handle some of the Swing traffic that that that we're suable to uh that that project is scheduled to open later this fall in later 2024 uh the North End around taxi way is a $250 million uh Pro Airfield project to enhance both the capacity and enhance the safety um of aircraft attempting to cross active runways um once this project is open this will allow the aircraft to uh to circumvent the center Runway going around the North End uh and enhancing uh safety by eliminating and reducing um opportunities for aircraft incursions and last but not least a very exciting project that I think is is one that that the community really will appreciate um is the uh the Redevelopment of the Overlook Park that the original um Park that had to be um that had to be shut down in connection with the fourth parallel rway project is being reconstructed in in Grand form it will have static military aircraft out there brand new rest restroom facilities a parking lot for food trucks and other amenities um that really think are going to be well received by the community and that is scheduled to open um the summer so keep your eye open for that very exciting and so with all of this and the capital program ultimately mentioned the importance of us keeping our our cost structure low I'm going to turn it over to Haley to wrap us up but this is something that you've seen before and and I think you know as a CFO at the airport I take a tremendous amount of pride in in knowing how efficient we can operate and um and looking forward to carrying that off into the next budget cycle he with that we try back to you we often teach Mike that this slide winds up putting him by himself at the airport CFO conferences that he has to sit alone that no one wants to sit with him when they see our rates here but um we have reviewed this budget with the airlines we've received positive feedback the airlines appear very um very pleased that we're taking actions to meet their demands in Charlotte and that we have a plan to support their growth I think spring break was a great indicator for what traffic is going to look like all summer we have set a record this past Thursday for the most passengers ever in Charlotte and we were so grateful to have that expanded space in the terminal Lobby so having said all that you know what does this do to our cost if you take a look at this chart you have several um of the airports that American operates at as well as uh several other large hubs and you can see Charlotte is on the far end the far right end of the scale and LAX is on the far left we do not include uh New York in this because they go off the page they shows you how high they are but the interesting thing about the data on this chart is that this $352 per imp plane passenger is our projection for this upcoming year the numbers for all the other airports is for the FY F the fiscal year 23 so that just shows you the difference um in where we are even with our 25 budget so having said that we'd be happy to take any questions um we're very pleased we got to share this with you and like I said if some of you want to talk offline I'd be happy to do that too keep on going thank you Madame mayor I've got two questions they're perennial questions um really more for context um first one is can you go back to the cost per imped passenger maybe excuse me we continue to hear over and over that the cost per in plane passenger is lowest in Charlotte and yet the um ticket prices for those flying out of Charlotte on nonb business travel um continue to increase can you just speak to why that is the pricing of airline tickets is a function of the airline M it is not indicative of just the airport cost they also have their cost so that is a question um that I would S suggest we engage American and give you a little better response on that but it is not indicative of only the airport cost thank you um that is one that I think um as our friends over at American um prepare for their next round of work and some of the things that I know that they're looking forward to coming in the uh airport I think it's a good time to just have those conversations and understand how do we make sure that we we remain competitive for the local community so I'm sure Tracy is probably watching this and I'll get a call here soon there she is right there I knew it so let's connect on that um and then my second question is um as it relates to the CIP projects and this net revenue of 186 million um one of the other things that we hear often um in the community as it relates to the airport is why can't we use those Pro or those dollars for projects to meet Community needs um can you just briefly outline the restrictions around Airport spending um and I've got a follow up in terms of airport dollars being spent for Community impact correct um yes there are federal policies um it's known as Revenue diversion and for lack of a better comparison it's it's the the Las Vegas rule what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas that's what happens at the airport what happens at the airport stays at the airport and we are um is illegal for us to use our dollars in other ways it must be generate if it is generated at the airport it must remain on Airport property and you thank you for that last piece because that's the piece I want to dig into a little bit because I think about from a um tourism standpoint and an investment in improving airport operations um immediately adjacent to the airport property how are we thinking about about improving infrastructure for instance in order to get in and out of the airport along at Wilkinson where the crowd is and things like that what kinds of opportunity might we have that still serves the needs of the airport and also addresses some of some of the um adjacent needs well the airport is I know you're aware being a former District rep we have um lots of area plans that talk about what the future of development will look like with the airport proper and then what's happening adjacent to the airport it's extremely important to us that we have compatible uses close by the airport um as far as the infrastructure goes we are actually uh in coordination with the state right now as well as City do in terms of looking at the infrastructure that's coming off of 85 and on Wilkinson we know there are several times a week now where Wilkinson breaks um we did a much better job this holiday season with um the spring break travel going in and out but we didn't do so great last holiday season we struggled with that a lot of that has to do with how much traffic are on those roadways during Peak periods so I can tell you that the infrastructure projects around the airport are things that matter greatly to us and we want to be at the table for those conversations to the point of where we're actually taking the lead saying look we've got 60 million passengers coming we know we're going to need to address some of these things those conversations are ongoing I don't have a lot of information for to that I can share with you at at this point but um the infrastructure is some certainly something that we care care about very deeply it it's critical to what we do and thank you and just to tie a bow on that piece when you're coming to the table are you coming with dollars that you can spend because it impacts the airport that is not the focus of the conversation at this point I will tell you we have spent money in the past where the project cannot be facilitated In Time by the state or cannot U meet our needs we have done that all around the airport where we we would wind up doing that gotcha so that may come as a result but we're not quite there yet gotcha thank you appreciate it thank you for your leadership thank you Miss Mayfield thank you madam mayor thank you for the presentation question for you with looking at slide seven when we're looking at the terminal Lobby expansion which it can just stay right there so we're looking at not only our expansion we're looking at the experience here so that's what it was earlier when I told you I sent you a question I can't remember but I didn't send it to you so thinking about the customer experience our charging stations where we have chosen to use the chairs and unfortunately I don't know what that contract look like but they aren't as effective as we may have thought that they would be and looking at some of our competitive markets I think DC no Vegas has the standup charger stations when you all are looking at growth at the airport are you also looking at for lack of a better word the best practices of other airports and the things that are working well absolutely we uh not only engage our passengers and our tenants in those conversations but we belong to numerous airport professional associations we have connections with various um companies and Consultants all across the country uh the Consultants that we mostly engage for Charlotte are not people who are right here in our community when it comes to things like you're talking about we have a mix of folks um so we do we do that I will tell you that the chair Chargers that we have now really came about because of the tightness of the hold rooms and how it was very difficult to accommodate something else standing or being in place um so again we're thinking about those is there the towers are on are a part of the chairs they just sit in the middle versus what we currently have as the airport is going are we also having we being you all having conversations of expanding our local representation regarding restaurants and other things cuz these are some of the things that I've been seeing online lately and in social media post with how the airport is growing and how you have everything goes down to e but you're act you have to go through security through gate e but you're actually flying out of Gate C or gate B diversifying what we have available with really pushing Charlotte well we do try to have a mix of national and local Brands um we have a very successful it's called an acdbe program uh that is for airport concessionaires I think we have very sophisticated dbe operators in our terminal building $2 of every $5 generated in the terminal building is from a local or small business so we're really proud of that um and it is part of our business philosophy having said that we do contract for those services and um with host and parodies and both of them are continually working on how they manage that portfolio so yes to answer your question it's something we will continue doing and it's something um that we are constantly doing and my last one is regarding slide nine the cost per in plane passenger we have what seems to be the lowest cost at$ 352 $352 you're seeing that this is for our fiscal 25 budget where we're keeping at was this also the 2324 number I'm trying to see what is the increase that we even though we're still low in comparison what was our previous number $211 it was it was actually a little bit less than $2 on a reconciled basis and FY 23 and in 20 in the last budget cycle it was a little over $2 but one thing I think that and Haley touched on this earlier but we'd be remiss if we didn't remind everyone we lost about well not lost we've used or expended about $370 Million worth of covid stimulus grants that we use to help offset airline rates and charges and basically to help the airport continue to operate through the pandemic and so now that that money is all spent now it's time to pay the pay the bills so even though last year American and the other airlines will see a significant cost increase but it's still cheaper than anywhere else so I think you our message and we met with American they seem generally supportive at that time and we shared our story of growth and and that this budget would respond to that and reminding them that we're losing hundreds of millions of dollars in in covid Grants still puts us in a very competitive situation thank you thank you mayor thank you mayor uh a great story about the airport obviously we appreciate uh the role airport plays in the economic Vitality of the city but this is not actually a budget presentation so are we going to see numbers and uh uh more detail uh you know historical projected the kind of stuff we would normally look at for a budget we'd be happy to share that with you yes okay uh what are the net revenue is actually used for I mean you've got the Surplus on from operations is that debt service or or uh what happens with that yeah speak in My love language thank you um yes so yes it is uh services our debt we are a double a rated credit of the city and we do maintain our own credit ratings so that helps us support that it also helps support the the the capital development program we try to be very strategic about how much of that net revenues we use for pgo on projects maybe for some short projects that have a maybe a shorter useful life for example Le but yeah that that is primary that that helps protect our and it also contributes to our uh funding our discretionary reserves our strategic reserves as well right um you mentioned American Airlines a couple of times uh I think it's great on this occasion to acknowledge our appreciation for the partnership we have with American and the value that represents for the city please convey that um the what percentage of the activity at the airport is currently represented by America it used to be something like 90 88 89 yeah and uh so obviously we do have an issue of of a lot of concentration with that one uh customer could you talk about what the status is of the lease right now where are we in terms of that lease we're on the we're on the end of a 10-year agreement it will um come due in 2026 we've al already started having some what I would call strategy discussions with the airline about how they want to approach this what's important how we want to start meeting um and those those negotiations will kick off this year I will tell you that um everybody is extremely pleased with the business Arrangement that's in place so I would find it shocking if the overall business Arrangement changes any as we move forward I do believe there are a number of things that the airline will come to the table and we will come to the table with things that are just mechanically um cleaner and that will help help the lease work a little bit better but we're we're looking forward to that and um we expect to to wrap that up uh over the next year good I mean I would be shocked too but uh that's a moment at which the issue of the concentration is a little bit more in the foreground so I hope uh we will be kept posted on that our progress there and the last thing was I think the FAA is reviewing uh flight patterns approach patterns and so on uh seems to be of concern to a lot of people uh could you just comment on what's going on there I will um be happy to the airport is in the midst of a part 150 uh noise compatibility study part 150 is the Federal Aviation regulation pertaining to it it is um in it's about at a year mark in the study and we are in schedule to wrap that up this summer and bring that forward to council for a recommendation uh this study has been the study we had had been in place for almost uh 25 years so we're really excited to look at what's happening currently in our airspace and have recommendations come forward the F the FAA will be the determining factor for the recommendations that move forward and uh we have a draft slate right now that they're continuing to review and work with once it's approved approved by Council it then goes back to the FAA to be implemented and again these are things uh that make the airf feel more efficient things that impact noise things that um may or may not um may or may not be implemented at this point but we'll go to the FAA and this group for a final but you say it comes up for a vote by us uh what actual Authority do we have and people will come to us because they're concerned uh about what could happen near them and always there is somebody who feels they're worse off and so uh in in practice what control do we have over that outcome the FAA manages flight patterns they manage flight operations they manage how the Airfield operates what we have done is based on Federal requirement and conducted a number of engagements with professionals um users Community Representatives neighborhoods people who live close to the airport to weigh in pay in the federal decision making about what is occurring with regard to flight operations so that a a decision by Council would be taken on board by them or considered by them but our actual authority to prohibit something at the end of the day isn't and I'm just trying to clarify because again people looking to us and understand that be pretty clear about what we can and can't do and in full transparency our lawyers um at the airport will be working with Patrick they are actually looking at what council approved last time to be sure we understand what council will actually be approving is it approving the program is it approving um land use is it approving acceptance of federal funds for noise compatibility purposes we are taking a look at that to ensure exactly what you would be asked to approve okay well thanks to you and everybody at the airport thank you may Mr Graham uh thank you Madame mayor um council member Dre um asked the line of questioning that I was going to ask uh the staff related to the the part 150 um study um so I'll just make a couple of General comments um one I had the opportunity this weekend actually again to be at the airport um picking up someone who was attending some activities at at the University and I continue to be impressed in terms of the Effectiveness and efficiency of the airport under construction uh obviously it it can be an headache uh but it it's really a edge City to itself in terms of the um uh the operation and and the the new facilities that we see uh it's more than just an asset for the city of sha it is a regional asset that all combine 15 16 counties around us depend on um for its growth and its development and it's the growth and development of the region so I'm really appreciative of the the day-to-day management of the airport um management through the construction I continue to be impressed with the the Capal Improvement projects at the airport to make sure that the airport uh is modern and and um can handle the traffic uh that our great partner American is generating for us and American is a great partner as your economic development committee chairman I I meet with Tracy at least once a month my phone are are in person and we talk about a wide variety of issues at the airport that uh impacts American um the good and the bad um so um but they are a value partner and I just hope that we can continue to um um have a great partnership with them um obviously they open up the gateways to the world um for the city of Charlotte in terms of corporate relocation corporate retention Etc not only for the city of charot but for the region and so that relationship is extremely important uh and one that I think that we really need to be very mindful of and and certainly not take for granted um that they will always be there obviously um competition is good Tracy uh from time to time but certainly when you have 88% of the the flights being generated by one Airline that that's something that we are not to take for granted and be as supporters if we can without tipping the scale and the balance in terms of what happens in terms of other carriers at the um at the um at the airport so one question though was I correct in hearing that the Overlook will be available and ready this summer yes sir that that that would be great that gives me an yet another activity to do with my grandson so so thank thank you very much for that all right mayor proam thank you madam mayor um I also would like to just compliment the operations of the airport I had the opportunity to be out there about three weeks ago uh coming from DC and then into uh Easter weekend and the configuration was very different in the lobby uh but there was great customer service guiding people to specific areas and the throughput to get through security was was good and and um so I I the efficiency and the way that you all are managing the operations while being constantly under construction um is something that I think you should be applauded for because it does um it can impact the customer experience I just have a couple questions though you know there was a conversation earlier around once you get through security and you're seeing these increased numbers you so where adding seven eight million more passengers inside of the airport in terms of the actual common spaces and the plans to actually have a great experience while you are flying out of Charlotte Douglas or flying through Charlotte Douglas I I see there's a lot of congestion inside of the airport can you talk about any of your plans around creating spaces um for fam and groups to have a better experience inside the airport yes I'd be happy to um you know the Hub operates from everyone coming and leaving at the same time and so that is a challenge BNC Concourse or our older older concourses we did refresh them so they look a little newer and they've got new surfaces new flooring new lighting it did not give us any more square footage so one of the things we're working on right now is how can we reposition some of the hold rooms if you notice when you if you fly frequently in your own BNC Concourse the Q lines will often come out into the walkway so we're actually looking at repositioning podiums and repositioning chairs in some gates chairs may be reduced to provide more room for the flight that is actually queuing and to give us a better Ingress and egress we actually um have a plan right now that's being uh designed that will change and reconfigure de uh the connector for d and e as you're moving that way to provide more more common space more waiting space so you could be close to your gate but not be in your hold room in it in your in your gate I think you will see when the 10 gates open on a uh this fall you'll see that it mimics um the last Concourse a uh a phase one that we opened and that that Concourse is designed differently and has the ability to have more space so we are trying to take um elements of that and put that into existing spaces the long-term plan actually has B and C both being widened uh to make more room and um allow more gates to be on the end and less gates to be on closest to the to the atrium which would then allow us to to have more waiting space as you're talking about and luckily we do have that space uh now in the terminal Lobby it's a game Cher for queuing lines for allowing large groups to come in but we still have that challenge in the oldest parts of the building so we'll continue to address that that's great to know that you are um thinking about logistically how you can operate within the square footage that you have to increase the uh customer experience because I am a frequent flyer of there quite often and it can get congested um the so the question that I also have and I I also Echo sentiments to American Airlines and the partnership that uh that we have with American and it really is a game Cher for our airport and so so I'm very happy to see that and to be extended the number of um direct flights that we're adding you know not only to Tulum which I know uh Miss Molina participated in but then the summer seasonal flights uh to some of the areas with national parks sort of in the in the Heartland in the middle of the country I think those are just going to stimulate activity even more um for us and so I I love to see that when we talk about the operators outside of American though can you talk about are there operations more Hub and spoke or do they have a direct flight portfolio as well the majority of the other operators serve um a a very different customer and what I mean by that is U we have a number of lowf fair carriers um we have a number of non-traditional carriers like a Southwest um so there are um Legacy carriers that operate in Charlotte United Delta it's a much smaller scale so they do run Hub operations but nothing like what you would see um with American all of our Airlines in Charlotte are growing and I think when you start to see that it again goes back to what's happening in our local market uh the business climate the great place to to live relocation increasing population is really d driving and those those uh other carriers non-traditional carriers um are meeting a need for a certain passenger excellent okay and then my last question is just about employment around the airport in general and um how are you how is the employment base both for the Airlines and for the airport are you having having any difficulty attracting uh proper employee base to speak a little bit about that well I think it really depends on the job that you're trying to hire um clearly none of this works well if we don't have boots on the ground to make it work and I know that uh the airline has a couple of jobs that is very that that are very important to them and they are trying to hire uh in the coming months um we've all seen a lot about the pilot shortage we've seen a lot about the mechanics so there's a whole host of um what I would call Niche employe Niche jobs looking for certain trained employees to take we have that with the airport operator as well as the airport operator um labor and trades it's very challenging for us to hire those jobs in this Charlotte Market construction is aggressive in our market and we are competing with um with with the likes of large large corporations so I would say labor and trades uh for the airport and Tech for the airport Tech is becoming more challenging um but we've been doing a really good job of filling our positions um we run a little less than 10% vacancy for uh the airport and we're very pleased with that that's good to know uh because I also want to ensure that those jobs are reserved and filled by charlatans and and individuals who live in the area area right and you don't have to source that Talent from outside of the region so from a Workforce Development perspective is there if there's anything that we can do for as a city to help assist in some of those labor trades and and potentially those tech jobs as well um but be very interested in hearing more about that in uh in months to come thank you Madame mayor thank you quest to speak is Mr barari thank you I Echo the sentiment good work to you and your team and American all the good things we have going on there obviously it's uh it's a very important part of our broader ecosystem I just have one question um that I have kind of consistently heard Rumblings about um and that's the homeless issue that has been cited um in the um in the areas particularly I've heard around uh the uh the luggage um areas in in the the bottom um could you you know obviously this is an issue across the entire city we're working on but it has additional implications at the airport where so many people um this is their first view of the entire city um do you have just a very quick uh status update of like is that still a thing or has it been solved and then if not um are there implications s that we should be thinking about on either the budget side for enforcement and the things necessary or is it more on the policy and ordinance side um that we need to be thinking about um from that perspective from the council well typically every year when it gets cold we do experience uh some some visitors who are residentially challenged and um we have been um dealing with that for many years I think what was the game Cher for this year was we had so much more pre-security square footage so uh we we had more visitors this past year so what we've been working to do is be sure that whatever policy we put into place actually gives the police something they can use to remove people who may not be there for airport business Safety and Security is our number one priority of the airport and we always approach these um situations with that in mind having said that we have encountered there are some times when it is challenging for police to actually remove an individual um from our property the way the current laws are written so we are um working on language that will be in airport rules and regulations that uh legal is working through right now that we hope to have in place this Summer that if you are not at the airport for business um if you are not there working if you are not traveling there are a number of um I guess considerations then you cannot be at the airport and and so that will be coming forward um we hope by June great I'm glad to hear your team is focusing on that I would encourage uh doing that with as much urgency as possible as well as working on the other side of the coin with some of the other efforts we're working on right now uh with the homeless courts and the and the the um kind of routing people to the places where they can get the services they need from temporary housing to mental health uh to Workforce to all kinds of things so I think that's another very important touch point of kind of um the demand side that tracks to the supply but also though the ordinances and what you guys need is something that I would really I'm glad you're doing it and I encourage that you uh as soon as possible U bring things to us to be able to help help you with those issues thank you we appreciate that and we have been working closely with the county on available services for um those who are willing to take it all right Miss Brown thank you thank you so much Madame mayor today um Haley thank you for inviting me out to the airport to meet with your entire team um just to get the breakdown of what it takes to run the airport how much is put in to running the airport how many staff members you have what goes on on that side side of operations quite naturally you know that I've been over on the American side and can see everything from an employee then standpoint and perspective I wanted to um first give you accolades for bringing me out there breaking down step by step taking time out to break down everybody's jobs TI of what you do what it takes how it's effective and what I didn't know some things that I got to see um from an employee standpoint though I know um the contract is here I see all of you know the traffic people coming through every day um I get to experience it firsthand up close in personal and I wanted to um and I can you and I can discuss offline you know some of the things but I just wanted to I didn't see a breakdown of like contracts employees how they're going to be effective and I also just wanted to bring um while we get to see the glitz and glamour of the airport and how good it looks you know to The Eyes Of The Travelers and everybody coming through um safety is always it takes presidence there's no hierarchy of safety and just wanted to speak about you know keeping us safe how we can do that with um all of the people coming through as we grow over the summer months as we're congested in the area the lobby looks good you now me I've been working at for quite some time and now I have to say hey where am I going to get in the door because um we're developing and we're growing and I can see the blueprints coming together cuz I've been there for a long time and just seeing the lobby grow it looks really good and it's spacious I will say that it's very very spacious if I get lost it's very spacious so um I want to talk of um from a standpoint of some of the equipment you know I want to speak about the jet Bridges and make sure that they're operational and when we think in terms of the budget yes we got to get the airplanes off the ground but we also got to make sure that the equipment is in place is safe it's moving it's working according to so that that's really all that I have I know what it takes to put that um airport together from an employee St perspective but I want to speak from in terms of the contract and the employees out there what can we do to make it better for them you know and that everybody is on one Accord so thank you so much for that I'm a little under the weather that's my voice sound like that but thank you for bringing me over Haley kudos to you and your team it is a lot of work and it's a huge huge responsibility to run the airport the way that you run the airport so thank you so much okay thank you for your support thank you Miss Molina thank you uh mayor protim um Miss Gentry uh great to see you again um my colleagues a few of them know I I was able to um be a part of the most recent celebration of the direct flight to uh Tulum and I Echo the sentiments of my um of our mayor Pro him and that that type of you know Economic Development and the opportunities are great for Charlotte so I'm really excited about that um and I also got a chance to you know get a glimpse of some of what's going on from an inside perspective so um thank you to your team um Tracy you're a rock star I love you um I have probably the most important question of the night uh about the airport Overlook I love The Overlook me and my kids have gone to that Overlook for most of their little lives uh and it's going to have a playground and they're too big to play on the playground uh but we're still going to go out there and eat ice cream and stuff uh is it going to be in the same place it has moved slightly but you will take the same road and it will not be far from where it was okay is there going to be like a a grand opening event for it yes there will be a grand opening so we are shooting for this summer um and the we will definitely publicize it and be sure Council knows about it okay I'm not sure if we'll have a grand opening or Ribbon cutting at this point but we are definitely going to have an event oh it's going to be lots of families that are going to be very excited about that um also just a a a small mention um and I don't know to what degree that you're aware but as council members we often times get uh emails from airport workers and that's why there's you know this kind of repeated interest um in what you know what's being done from an airport perspective uh but I think Mr manager um I've even been tapped to hold a discussion in Spanish which I'm absolutely going to facilitate for Spanish speaking workers that work at the airport um but I I I don't know is there any kind of highlight that you'd like to offer around the workers at the airport like is there um I guess you know my most recent email was basically someone who was belaboring the fact that they were you know unhappy you know working at the airport you know talked about Labor concerns Etc so is there something that we're doing from a city's perspective um around our workers at the airport yeah I I think the the best person to handle that question is Miss Gentry and I can provide any backfill with that okay yeah I'm I'm wondering because you know from you guys's perspective I guess it would be I don't I don't know how much of a I guess there is a flow from like what you do as an enterprise resource to the actual City resources so is there anything that you guys are doing specifically around um I guess morale morale is something that we're always chasing no matter where you work I don't I I don't take this like I'm saying that we're doing something wrong but when you know the workers do reach out to us which some of them do very often I know that even in my own inbox I have a few right now um so from a morale perspective you know is there anything like congruent that works with like the city staff is it the same or kind of how does that work if Mr I'll start off okay um so I understand your your question a little better now um council member Molina so um think about it differently that it's not just whether you're Enterprise fund or general fund or you know Public Safety we have about you know the capacity for 9,000 employees and our employees no matter what department they're in we try to treat them fairly we try to make sure that what we're doing is uh looking out for the best interests of our employees so there's always collaboration with HR for consistency um throughout the organization um but I'll let Haley talk about things that are specific to um her Department um but I'm saying that we all fall under that umbrella okay I just wanted to make sure before yeah so that's something that you and I will talk about one off especially before I hold that conversation because I don't want to get in there and say the wrong thing well and councilwoman I I would want to be sure that the term airport employee gets used a lot and it's not always a city Aviation Department employee okay I know a lot of the emails that you're talking about I don't know the specific one that you're referring to right now but a lot of those are generated through Union employees that work either for food beverage retail or the airlines you know now that I think about it mentry I think that's what it is and they they are very aggressive with messaging and communicating about various things and most of the time it has absolutely nothing to do with City Aviation Department employees I'd be happy to um help you if you need background crafting or any information um I'd be happy to provide that feedback for you but a lot of times it's not anything within the city's purview okay that uh these employees are wanting to engage about okay no that's good to know and I I will reach out to you because I literally have an active request for my time to kind of hold a discussion so that would really help me greatly between you and our city manager to help me you know facilitate that conversation because I'll entertain the request but i' like a little bit more specificity you know around it before I do but um again I'm really proud of our airport I think you know being sixth or seventh busiest six seventh seventh I I didn't want to get that wrong in the entire world I think that is that is outstanding that's something you know amazing to hold um and and I'm really proud of that that's something that you know is kind of a badge of honor of us so thank you for all that you do for you know the airport in our city thank you thank you madam mayor and thank you for the presentation speaking of grandchildren my grandson was at the he came in on American Airline just yesterday so um so I wanted to ask about the cost per inlan passengers and I wanted to know what that those cost if I could get a a list of what that entails or just a high overview does that include employee wages no well not exactly here you want to talk about it it includes the cost to operate in Charlotte for each Airline so yeah that no that's that's exactly right so this is intended to represent a Apples to Apples metric that the IND that the airport industry uses to compare each other in terms of our Collective efficiency and what this cost is is really nothing more than the total payments made by the airlines divided by the number of impl passengers and implment is somebody who gets it's on an airplane so in our case um so if it's a $3 cost per plane passenger and if we've got 50 uh 25 30 million in payments that means the airlines are paying us around $100 million to operate and they pay that to the city in the form of Landing fees so every time an aircraft lands onto the it's the surface of the runway we charge them a fee we also charge them uh rentals for the occupancy that and for the rents that they uh they occupy in the terminal building for uh bags for bag uh handling areas ticket ticketing areas passenger hold room areas um really anything that they occupy on a preferentially leased basis meaning they have least least hold interest rights we we charge them by rent so again this really is is the total amount that we charge the airlines to to do business there divided by the passengers how is it that our costs are so much lower than we're just much better just no um no so yeah it's it's an answer we get asked a lot a lot of it has to do with the enormous economies of scale that we enjoy I mean you know there's been a couple folks have talked about how um how busy the terminal building is and it is quite busy it's it's on a per square foot basis probably the busiest terminal in the world in terms of the number of people per square foot that we push through it but um at the end of the day it's a combination of of a culture of efficiency that we have adopted ever since I've been here and ever since and haly's been here for a while and uh it really it's it's a cultural thing that I think is part of our organizational identity is is wanting to make sure that we're able to do more with less um we're able to be efficient um you know we we want to make sure that our employees that we're paying our employees and and give them the benefits that they deserve but on the other hand we also want to make sure that we're being as efficient as we can that encourages the likes of American Airlines and other carriers to continue to invest here and I I understand that but this is such a wide range and we do hear from employees I don't you know and they may be contract employees but the the low wages and if there's opportunities to to bridge this Gap I mean I understand that's wanting to be attractive to businesses but if there's opportunity to improve lives of the workers it looks like that we are really really um charging far less than we may be able to and I just really I mean it's almost $30 and we do receive emails from um again from employees so if there's some room to increase wages or something it it this might be something we should take a look at as a city thank you oh and another thing I wanted to say um Miss Molina when you mentioned uh employees I I've suggested employee surveys for 4 years years now so that is one way to to reach out to Citywide employees to get a gauge on on the morale and the U the culture thank you right last speak but Mr Mitchell thank you Madame mayor and I'm GNA stay within the 30 seconds you gave me so uh F first of all great job great job great job secondly if anybody else ask me about those rocking chairs at the airport uh uh I think we can make money off just leasing those out and on another personal note uh mayor Mitch Cohen from City of fville thank you so much for finding his new wife's luggage when it was lost from their Dominic I think Tracy's going to take credit for that one Tracy okay so so American Airlines thank you but may Cohen told me to publicly say thank you so great job to do work that that was it's amazing what kinds of requests you can get so we would thanks I had to thank Tracy as well when I called and I'm I will not embarrass the mayor of fville of why he had to do that but anyway thank you everyone thank you guys um we have really gotten to the place of I believe we should go downstairs do the work on the agenda and then also the manager has said in his um review his his work with us that we can then address the second part of our budget discussions and governance that we have on our agenda so with that let's go downstairs and get started um I hope everybody has looked at the memo that Lyn MinGa sent us today this afternoon about 4:30 if you would take a chance to look at that I think that would be very helpful all right thank you everyone oh I'm sorry I did not know you were back there [Music] e [Music] [Applause] [Music] la [Music] a [Music] e e e e e e e e e e e e evening everyone I am V LA and I serve as mayor of the city of charlot and I am now calling to order the B Council business meeting um and we'll begin with introductions and we'll start with our City attorney good evening Patrick Baker City attorney good evening Victoria watlington serving you at La good evening Lana Mayfield council member at large Char district 6 Ed DRS district 7 malcol gram District 2 Dante Anderson mayor protim district one Marx Jones city manager good evening James Mitchell at large good evening Renee Johnson and I'm honored to represent District 4 good evening I am Marg Molina I represent the East Side District 5 Miss um azir told us that she was not feeling well today we hope that she's feeling better um that we are now going to begin to have our regular business meeting we're grateful that those of you that are watching us on some type of streaming device or however you can approach to be able to um follow us thank you for being able to do that today we have an agenda that will start off with this a discussion of our review of our affordable housing funding recommendations so but before we do that I Believe Miss Mayfield is going to to address us um we solemnize our meetings and have someone help us um see the way that we would choose and then we will have a signif a recognition of a proclamation as well M Mayfield after first our um Miss Mayfield's remarks and then for the pledge after the Pledge of Allegiance thank you thank you madam mayor for those that choose to you may join me in standing I will be reading from James 4:10 dear Lord I pray for the hearts of your people as We Gather in your name I pray that we do not get caught up in our titles and our responsibilities I pray that we humble ourselves before you so that you can lift us up let us be elevated in the spiritual realm with hearts that yearn for you rather than hearts that yearn for status in the Physical Realm I thank you for your love I thank you for your assigning us with this Divine Purpose of service amen amen amened Al to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all now I'd like to um recognize that we have a joint Proclamation with meinberg County to recognize fair housing month in this Proclamation we recognize that in April the 11th 1968 the federal law set a goal of eliminating racial segregation and ending and and ending housing discrimination in the United States and Charlotte meinberg and Charlotte and the mecklinburg county fair housing ordinances of 1980 and 1982 respectively have helped us look at prohibiting discrimination and housing because of race color religion sex national origin and family status and disability the city of Charlotte continues to be committed to the mission and the intent of Congress to provide fair and equal housing opportunities for all in fact after we have this um Proclamation we'll be talking about housing we commemorate 56 years of the passage of the fair housing act dis even while discrimination and still persists and many communities remain segregated but we VI Alexander LA mayor Charlotte and George Dunlap chair of the mecklinburg board of County Commission duby do hereby declare April 2024 as fair housing month in Charlotte and mecklinburg County as an inclusive community committed to fair housing and to promoting appropriate activities by private and public entities to provide an advocate for Equal Housing opportunities for all residents and prospective residents of Charlotte and mecklinburg County now I'd like to invite Willie Ratford director of the City's community city and county community relations committee to come down to the clerk's Des to desk to receive the proclamation [Applause] Willie thank you for the role that you play in your organization to investigate and maintain the standards that we'd like to have thank you Mr May don't move too quick Louise trying to get a picture of you and Willie thank you Miss Mayfield you want to do public hearing first okay we are going to now move to our public hearing on the proposed fiscal year 2025 annual action plan for Housing and Community Development which is appropriate considering the action that we just um took so with that are there any speakers Madam clerk me yeah having no speakers um let's see we are now going to go to a motion to close the public hearing so have a motion and a second to close the public hearing all in favor please raise your hands all right with that we close the public hearing now we'll go to our policy item which is to actually address an item that we didn't get to when we were upstairs earlier and that we are going to talk about the fair housing program public hearing on the deid talk about this with Sean I believe affordable housing funding recommendations so is it rebeccaa I asked the manager today if it was Shawn or Rebecca and he did not tell me which so here we go I think I accidentally I think you did say Sean to tell you the truth so right we want to recognize that we have a number of our housing um organizations represented here this evening the work that you do makes it possible for us to claim this honor um helping us maintain as much as we can housing for the people in this community so with Rebecca why don't you kick us off good evening mayor members of council I'm glad to be here this evening I am indeed Rebecca Hefner uh director of Housing and Neighborhood Services and I'm joined this evening by Warren Wooten who is our assistant director for affordable housing um given the change in venue I told him he didn't have to stand um during the whole presentation but he will be available for Q&A uh at the end of this time so today we actually have two two Rec sets of recommendations to go through for you uh one is your typical Housing Trust Fund uh recommendations and then we also have a proposal for uh Transit oriented development land acquisition um this is the first proposal that you've received since the release of an RFP in January so we'll spend a little bit of time uh actually going through that RFP as well as the proposal first a quick overview of uh where you are with your affordable housing investments so this is since the uh last Bond approval which was in November of 2022 voters approved a $50 million Housing Trust Fund Bond uh and since that time uh across all of your funding sources city council you have invested Ed in over 2100 affordable housing units so uh you you'll see here the total is more than that 50 million because this is the housing bonds as well as your federal funding allocations your local Innovative housing uh fund pgo dollars uh and then we'll talk a little bit about the Tod F andl income as well that serves as the funding source for the land acquisition proposal that you'll receive later this evening so just want to call your attention to this chart that uh it it is illustrating the uh Investments that you've made since January 2023 across all of the uh housing types so it's broken down by category and gives you the number of the total number of affordable units the investment amount and the percentage of the total investment in that housing category so with the recent referral from um from mayor LS that came out on Friday we'll be digging into this a little bit more but I thought it would serve as a good foundation for you all tonight in looking at the Housing Trust Fund uh recommendations in addition across all funding sources in that same time period 40% of the affordable housing units that you all have approved or pre preserved are serving households at 50% and Below area median income that includes 522 units or 24% of the total at 30 % Ami and below so that exceeds the 20% Housing Trust Fund uh policy 20% of units at 30% that you have as policy in the Housing Trust Fund in addition you'll note there are a few units at the 90 and 100% Ami on this chart those are home ownership opportunities your down payment assistance program actually um uh eligibility for that goes up to 110% Ami for some households and tonight what we'll be talking about is the uh Housing Development Fund um we commonly call it the Housing Trust Fund but in with the expansion of funding sources we've been referring it to it as the Housing Development Fund uh this fund provides Gap financing for affordable housing developments so your current unallocated balance out of that 50 million is 8,946 so don't get too excited about tonight there aren't going to be as many units recommended as the last round um because your um fund is dwindling uh as a reminder a few requirements as it relates to the Housing Trust Fund at least it requires a long-term deed restriction to preserve affordability in in the case of multif family the minimum is 40 years it requires 20% of the units must serve households at 30% area me median income and below and this fund is replenished on a banial basis via Bond referendum and with your federal allocations so uh the um the voters will take a look at this Bond referendum again in November that is uh uh historically voters have been very supportive of the housing Bond dollars and um that will come forward to voters based on the recommendation that you approve in your fy2 budget those that fund is also uh augmented with cdbg and home dollars those are federal funding sources uh you may recall uh approving a project in the last round that had Federal funding sources this round is only local Bond dollars um in addition it's important to note that the winter requests for proposals so it is April I recognize that but this is the winter RFP it came out in December um the winter request for proposals aligns with the state tax credit application deadlines and because of that you'll see more multif family tax credit projects in this round of recommendations um than you would see in some other rounds for example last note here about the fund itself there is a separate rolling RFP for Noah requests and the to land acquisition requests so the uh both of these rolling rfps were recommended in the Housing Trust Fund tuneup um that came through Council committee that Noah RFP was released last may you actually had one of those projects in your last round of recommendations um in the summer fall of 2023 um and then the to RFP was released in January of this year 2024 and you've received one proposal for that which is reflected in tonight's action review a quick note on on schedule um this is the standard RFP schedule for the Housing Trust Fund so uh proposals were received in late January um staff have been working diligently over the last two months um to really vet the proposals and and even sometimes negotiate with the developers to make sure that you're getting the best possible value for your Investments so shout out to our housing and neighborhood services staff as well as the planning department staff who work on um insur ing that uh you you've got great proposals for consideration um The Briefing of course tonight this is where we are on April 8th and then in two weeks um the recommendations will come back before you for consideration and approval in uh the April 22nd uh Council agenda uh on April 18th uh you will receive what we commonly refer to as the HTF booklet which is the document that gives you all of the uh project details and tells you a little bit more about each development than you will hear tonight and also has a written rationale for staff's recommendations all right the punchline as I referenced earlier you've got about $8.9 million remaining in the Housing Trust Fund uh and this slide illustrates the uh overall summary of staff's recommendations seven proposals uh were received out of those proposals five of them um are recommended for funding you can see that reflected here 240 multif family rental units again um these are uh tax credit projects one 9% 2 4% projects and then also um two home ownership developments for a total of 19 units alog together 259 units at about $8.8 million um a couple of things to note there is one note on this slide about the grounds for change uh development um under City cost per unit um in addition to the $2 million that's recommended for funding from the Housing Trust Fund this project was also awarded arpa funding in November 2022 so I'll go into that more detail on the slide just wanted to note it here for anyone who's doing the math and says hey that's not that's not quite right on uh City cost per unit and then the other thing I want to call your attention to is the column negotiated affordability period so I referenced that staff have been working over these last two months on the projects and really pleased to share that um in in those conversations with developers were able to identify $654,000 in cost savings and an accumulative additional 94 years of affordability period over the three projects so the time that staff spends going through these projects is really of benefit um to you to to get really good Investments through the Housing Trust Fund out of those 259 units this slide illustrates the uh Ami mix and the rent ranges that will be um a part of these um in particular the multif family units but uh so 200 out of 259 you have 52 at 30% Ami which does meet your 20% even um cumulatively and for reference 30% Ami for a a household of 4 is currently right around $30,000 so we're still in this um easy math year where the Ami is around 100,000 so um it's easy easy to note uh 30% Ami 30,000 80% Ami 80,000 the rent range for multif family um developments here is Illustrated on the slide as well going from one bedroom to three bedrooms so for example you can see here the r range for the 30% Ami would start at $561 and go up to $777 depending on the bedroom size so if these recommendations are approved uh that would leave you with about $84,000 left in the Housing Trust Fund so this is an 8 8,1 140,000 for the multif family LIC uh developments and about 722 ,000 for the home ownership developments and now what I what I will say is that uh similar to rounds in the past where you've approved 9% tax credit developments they are subject to approval from the North Carolina Housing Finance Agency so the 1 n% um development in this bunch is um$ 2, 640,000 if that development is approved by Council but then subsequently not approved by the state for tax credits those funds will come back to the Housing Trust Fund one last note before we launch into the uh specifics on each of the recommended developments um we we heard you loud and clear at the January strategy session that you're interested in better understanding return on investment as it relates to um the city's uh affordable housing investment so we're working towards better defining that um and trying trying to get a couple of different metrics that can uh help help us understand uh return on investment now I will say we're these aren't these aren't perfect yet we're testing them out with you tonight to see if they're helping to give you some of the information that you're looking for we have two new metrics for you uh one is really looking at efficiency of your investment and the other is looking at impact of your investment so you'll see these referenced on each of the project summaries uh one is the investment realization period so the question here we're looking to answer is how many years will it take to recoup City investment through rent savings now we don't exactly you know if we were comparably going to invest in rental subsidies how many years of rental subsidies would would this project um take and so for this one it's a measure of efficiency the lower number of years the more efficient the investment on the other metric is 10year rent savings the question here we're attempting to answer is after 10 years how much money and rent savings would this project have generated for tenants so what's the difference between the affordable rent and Market rents and one way to think about that is this is uh um money that a household can then spend on other basic needs or savings uh or investments in the in their future and so this one we think of as a measure of impact and on this one a higher 10-year rent savings um is a is a stronger project now I will I will say that the next step of return on investment is a little bit harder to quantify which which is what is the impact on any given household having had the opportunity to um to have affordable housing so that one's a little bit more uh involved to answer but we are working on that as well uh and we we're hoping to have some more information there um by by your next uh round um which would be um next January so with that I'm going to share a little bit about each of the recommended projects the first one is uh grounds for change a development by dream key partners and uh grounds for change is the the development that I referenced on the summary slide has both a request in for Housing Trust Fund support of $2 million and um also has other City investment $4.5 million in arpa funds so this development was originally approved in um 2020 2021 um and then came back to the city in the November 2022 special RFP that was held for projects that were uh with with ARA funds for projects that were specifically impacted by the conditions that were changing in the market during and after the P pandemic and so uh a the grounds for change was a awarded this $4.5 million in arpa funding subsequent to that um dream key Partners had to make a material change to the development um that was related to parking and some additional escalating costs so they they uh returned the Housing Trust Fund support um and are now coming back to you all with a revamped project and a request to uh invest that $2 million back into this project project so one thing I will say is that the North Carolina Housing Finance Agency um you know has has has continued to um roll forward their tax credit and bond allocations for this 4% tax credit project um the Financial Partners at this location um are still on board and there's also philanthropic investment here uh everyone remains um invested in committed to and enthusiastic about this project and so the uh Housing Trust fund request is is now the last piece of the puzzle here this Pro this development is located in District 1 it's right off of Park Road on the grounds of the YWCA so another great partnership with YWCA to provide housing in our community uh as as uh for those of you who are familiar with the location it's right on the 19 bus line good access um to Uptown and other job centers um close to the Park Road Shopping Center one of the things we're particular particularly excited about with this project is it has a um pretty high location score um in particular the diversity score is a is a 10 out of 10 so this is a location where um there's there is um more more expensive housing higher income households and and will really create some diversity um for this area moving on to Mard at Sugar Creek and again I'm just hitting the highlights of each of these projects there's a lot to be excited about in this mix um in in malard at Sugar Creek this is a project by NH Inc um this developer has done um I think 14 or 15 projects across the Carolinas for um uh uh tax credit projects they were previously awarded city funding um for ovada at REI Creek if you uh remember that project the this development has really attractive uh leverage ratio and fairly low uh investment per unit per year because of the extended affordability they've um uh offered a 75-year affordability period and um so we're excited to see that it's also a development located in a fairly quickly changing part of Charlotte U right um right near daida and um this this area um has been seeing a significant amount of change over the last um several years including a um over 40% increase in home sales prices um so you just think about what what the market is doing and the need that that reflects for affordable housing uh the this location is right at the corner across from a couple of shopping centers um and one of the things that that the developer is excited about is the opportunity to really help design some of this Main Street feel in the area with enhancements to the sidewalk and the landscaping and the street lighting um and the uh other other pedestrian enhancements that come along with that um this this development also has eight units that are uh three bedroom and um so you'll see that reflected in the total bedroom count at 104 it's 60 units but 104 bedrooms because it does have that 133% of units that are greater than two bedrooms the next recommended development The Landings at tiola this is the third of the three multif family tax credit projects that staff are putting forward uh as recommended projects uh this this development is by the paces Foundation um this is a nonprofit develop developer with really extensive experience uh in um uh tax credit projects um they recently um uh started construction on a project that you approved um that's now called The Legacy at car Heights um you may remember it under the name of historic Nathaniel Carr seniors which is what it was called when it came through for your approval this is another really growing area this is located in uh the West Boulevard Corridor of opportunity and um right across the street there is a small home ownership development um as well as that's just finished as well as a new market rate U multif family building across the street so there's a lot of market rate activity happening in this area so another good opportunity to get in uh with uh affordable uh housing units um this is a a relatively efficient investment so you can see the investment per unit per year at 3 $54 that's mostly because of this very extended affordability period 99 years of affordability a good location score and again this one of all the projects has the most number of units U that are greater than two bedrooms so 100 units of affordable um but 194 bedrooms again uh serving some of those families that are uh um not not seeing as many units come online in the marketplace at that three bedroom and above I'll note here that the developer has met with the West Boulevard neighborhood Coalition uh and has been in discussions with the um with that neighborhood Coalition about what types of benefits can be provided to the community through this development and so similar to some of the work that they've done um through Legacy at car Heights so last thing to note on this project um The Landings at taola the property is currently under a long-term um uh uh purchase option and the developer heard and relay to us on Friday that there has been some environmental contamination found on the site so um they will be working over the next two weeks very diligently to determine what impact that might have on the um development and the feasibility of the development at as recommended so we're very excited about this project we wanted to bring it forward to you uh and um but also let you know that you there's some new information that we'll have to weigh along with the developer over the next couple of weeks so our deadline for them is to come back to us with something um by April 17th so that by the time we put it in your booklet on the 18th uh we have sorted out that recommendation uh but again um this uh a project with a great value proposition and um in a location that we're excited about so we're going to be working with the developer to see how how we can support making this um work and continuing it forward to recommendation to you on April 22nd all right so those are the three multif family tax credit projects there's two more but I'm just going to pause briefly to shift gears right my brain sometimes has to go okay now we're moving into Home Ownership it's a different type of proposal so it's a little bit hard to compare the multifamilies to the Home Ownership um uh developments but I'm going to do my best to explain it to you here tonight um and um and we can have additional conversation about home ownership as needed but again shifting gears a little bit it is a different type of development these are both developments proposed by habitat Charlotte and uh one of one of the exciting things about these two home ownership developments uh is that they are on uh land that was purchased with arpa funds from mclurg County um over over the last couple of years habitat specifically went out looking for land in areas where they wouldn't otherwise typically be able to purchase land because they had these additional funds from mberg County so you're going to get a little bit of a different uh location for these two developments than some of the things you may have seen in the past the first one here is Legacy Vista this is in District three and uh we're there there's a total of 14 units proposed here 12 of them uh are affordable so a couple of things about this location um that's you know interesting and and part of why we're excited about this is that um if you if you think about home ownership we're really looking at um both affordable housing and your and your um in your length of time affordable but also economic Mobility opportunities for the households that are in this housing and then also there's a neighborhood stability element to it especially in these situations where there's a long-term uh restriction around owner occupancy so I think of it as the three the three the three legs of the stool here uh affordability economic mobility and then neighborhood stability so in this particular area right now homes homes are selling um for about $48,000 on average and 24% of the single family units in this neighborhood area U are rental homes 48,000 or 480 if I said 48,000 we should all be running uh out to make a purchase thank you for the correction 480,000 thank you um and you can see here that the sales price range for these units would range from 250,000 to 280,000 uh and some of these units would be for households at 50 and 60% Ami so it would also include uh opportunities for down payment assistance um and and in order to get the actual mortgage amount down um to an even more affordable uh level for those households so um in this particular um proposal there's a mix of four single family detached housing units and five duplexes and um I want to just make a note of this ASC that's next to the affordability period you all talked quite a bit about home ownership and the affordability period in your last round of Housing Trust Fund uh recommendations and so the way that these uh developments are structured with habitat is that there is a resale provision at 15 years so we we illustrate this as a 15-year affordability period but there are additional restrictions that um make the effective period of of affordability 45 years so let me share a little bit about that so 15 years during that time the unit has to be resold to an affordable household at 80% and Below Ami after that 15 years it can be sold U without those affordability restrictions however in this case habitat and when there's down payment assistance the city of Charlotte have right of first refusal so that can be purchased um and recycled back in as affordable housing if that happens the 45e clock resets so the 15-year affordability period uh resets as well as the full 45e clock in addition we talked about neighborhood stability owner occupancy and single family rental houses the period of um the restriction for the units not being used as rental so must be owner occupied is for that full 45 years the Little's Landing is the next habitat development uh very very similar in uh what I shared around affordability period the sales price range a little higher but still very similar and um we we're um looking here at a total of eight units seven of them affordable uh serving 50 60 and 80% Ami in this uh again this is one of the locations where the land was purchased using arpa funding from mberg County to get to help habitat get land that otherwise would not necessarily be accessible to them so here the home sales are around average of 350 ,000 um and uh uh 25% single family rental houses um the these uh units would be um between 12 and 1300 um Square ft um they're a mix of three bedroom two bath and four bedroom 2 and a half bath and so what you can see here in the rendering is that is created through a mix of what's currently designed as one duplex and two triplexes okay so here's the other the other development that has a a caveat for you um important thing about this one is that as currently designed um it it includes these two triplexes now in your referral to Transportation Planning and Development Committee you all have been um uh discussing with um you know great robust discussions uh the right sizing the N1 development districts um with appropriate housing types uh that that meet the intent of the Charlotte future 2040 plan so you've been talking about a minimum lot sizes and conservation districts you've been talking about triplexes and town homes under the currently proposed changes that you discussed last week triplexes would not be allowed in this particular location and So habitat's currently working with with planning staff and and their designers uh to test out the proposed changes to the udio so part of that is to test and see if you know H how they might design this site with more duplexes or even structured quads um stacked quads uh housing types that that we would traditionally see in this neighborhood one um District um but still yield the same number uh or even more affordable units on this site so given the the changes to the conservation uh uh District guidelines and the potential uh Provisions for affordable housing developments um they're going to test out whether or not they can actually uh adjust the design and yield the same or more uh housing units so this is the other Aster that um as they work on this over the next couple of weeks and in conversations with planning um that that will update you uh in the Housing Trust Fund booklet about where it has landed in advance of your uh consideration on April 22nd all right last piece here on Housing Trust Fund I mentioned we received seven applications uh five of them uh we've just reviewed as staff recommendations and there are two uh developments that we are actually recommending for deferral at this time one is evoke living at Steel Creek and the other is the Merit these are both 9% tax credit projects and as you know those 9% tax credits are extraordinarily competitive uh neither one of these develop ments had a perfect site score for the tax credits uh which means that they are highly unlikely to receive tax credits from the state uh in this round uh and for that reason uh staff recommends deferring um especially given the uh uh low balance in the Housing Trust Fund um in in addition so evoke living is a um is a fairly um uh it's it's less efficient on the funding side in terms of what's been asked for it also has a lower location score uh but we think there's a lot of potential here on this site and we'll continue to work with the developer to bring forward a a development that will be more feasible especially if they continue to pursue a tax credits um the Merit uh with Conifer and dream key uh you may note this is the city-owned land uh development that was uh awarded to uh dream key and Conifer um in the last city-owned land RFP so staff really remains very excited about this site uh it is to zoned it's utilizing city-owned land and again we'll continue to work with the developer uh to bring forward a more feasible uh um recommendation to you in the future so here we are uh April 8th the the schedule for the Housing Development Fund of course you'll see these again on April 22nd for consideration and approval but then just a reminder that these can take quite some time to come to fruition uh on the ground uh with families and households occupying them so we'll go through the financial closing process then there's of course design and permitting construction units delivered uh and that can take um anywhere from 18 to 36 months um unless of course there's a pandemic thrown in the middle in which case um all all bets are off we saw a lot of um delays of course in projects during that time period so that's what I have for you on Housing Trust Fund and I'm going to uh shift gears one more time to talk about the transit oriented development land acquisition proposal that was received for your consideration thank you so the transit oriented development land acquisition RFP which is a a real mouthful um it creates a pathway for the city to support strategic land acquisition uh and and affordable housing opportunities in area zoned for Transit oriented development so this was a recommendation of the Housing Trust Fund tuneup that was completed with great neighborhoods now housing safety and Community Committee it's also a recommendation that came out of Nest commission so in January of 2024 the city released an RFP uh this RFP allows for 90% financing of land acquisition um for for land with to zoning and the way the way this is structured is essentially it's a short-term loan so a three-year short-term loan to acquire the land and then the developer has to come back to to to the city with a feasible proposal for affordable housing development with one within one year of acquisition um that can also include because it's to mixed income or multi-use so we're really looking to leverage this opportunity for creative and innovative solutions in to zoned areas um so again you know this gives the time time for the developer to conduct pre-development activities um and then come back with a full development proposal um this activity is actually not funded directly out of the $50 million of the housing Bond um this is funded through to fee and L payments so as part of the Udo uh Tod affordable housing bonus program uh created a fee andl um that developers could uh pay to get height bonus and other area bonus for uh developments in transit oriented development areas so you may recall in your budget in fy4 there was $4.7 Million that was allocated from these payments um that's what had been paid to date uh for the fee in L so that's the funding source for this proposal that I'm about to share and just as a note while there's 4.7 million that's been allocated an additional 16 million in commitments have been approved so this has been a very successful um program within DOD areas to generate additional funds for affordable housing and in this case land acquisition for affordable housing so the proposal that's under consideration at this time and staff recommends this evening uh comes from give impact they are requesting a little over $3 million to acquire a 1.5 Acre Site um on dorton street so this site is located within walking distance if you can see on the map here um the blue dot represents the Sugar Creek Light Rail station along the blue line so it's within walking distance of the Blue Line some initial estimates um indicate that there could be a yield here of approximately 200 to 225 units again that exact yield and the Ami mix that would be created here um would be part of those pre um predevelopment activities um that would take place after site acquisition one one other thing to note here um on your on your site score um we've broken it down here so you can see one of the great things about the to zoning is the High Sight score for proximity um because they are along the blue line um it also creates access to jobs this is a changing area um the the diver diversity score is um actually um based on the the actual units that will be proposed so it's not as applicable at this time um but it's a a great sight and an opportunity to uh activate the uh land acquisition components um of um of the to uh um bonus program so we're really excited to have a chance to bring this forward so the funding request again 3 million that's out of 4.7 million in this Tod fee and L funding source not out of the Housing Trust Fund Bond balance the schedule is um the same in terms of approval but then quite different as it comes to the development schedule you will uh have have a chance to consider and vote on this on April 22nd but then again there's a purchase predevelopment and design phase that has to happen within one year of acquisition followed by a proposal that comes in um which you will have a chance to take a look at and um and uh review and approve and then at that point is closing on the financing and the construction so it's a little bit longer time frame because we're talking about uh land acquisition not a fully formed uh affordable housing development and with that manager mayor members of council I am wrap up my presentation and look forward to your questions thank you um first I want to say thank you for the amount of information and the um responsiveness that this um committee and the staff have had to the ideas around how do we do more and how do we do more that's really good housing so thank you very much I want I think also the public needs to know that this is our presentation today and that on April the 22nd between now and then there can be questions that can be sent to the um housing community or committee and Community um so that if there are questions the public has an opportunity to um step up and say these are things that we'd like to understand more better all of that so I do think that um we have several folks that have questions I'm going to start with Miss Johnson followed by Miss Mayfield and Miss watlington okay thank you thank you for the presentation I have a few questions what is an acceptable or a good location excuse me fantastic question thank you so one one of the interesting things about the location score is that it incorporates some inherent tension so if you think about the different components of the location score and I'll just go uh back to um the land acquisition slide where you can actually see it broken out it includes proximity to amenities access to jobs via Auto and Transit it includes a neighborhood change score uh which is based on housing market activity in any given area uh you also incorporate the neighborhood change score into your definition of uh neighborhoods that are vulnerable to displacement so neighborhood change is one of the things that we use to identify uh neighborhoods that are vulnerable to displacement and then the diversity score actually illustrates to what extent the proposed units are serving different levels of Ami households than the existing housing there in that neighborhood so for example when I referenced the diversity score of 10 so each of these is out of 10 when I reference the diversity score of 10 that ground for change generated um that's that's the best you can do under under our current scoring there uh and it means that the affordable housing units are um serving households that are not not already living in those neighborhoods so it's increasing the diversity of that neighborhood now one of the things that we often see is that um the the components of the site score around for example change and diversity um Can can be in in ttention especially as we're looking at changing neighborhoods um you it's very uh difficult to actually score really well across all four categories so when you ask about what an acceptable site score is um you it's it's at a 40 but you're never going to get anywhere near 40 because what you're really looking at is four different pieces of information so what when this score was developed it was really in response to council's various priorities around affordable housing and this is an attempt to show you how well any given development is doing at trying to balance those different priorities um we're not we're not usually getting a cumulatively high score but it's telling you how well is this development doing in ensuring access and proximity to um services to jobs and then are you preserving and creating affordable housing in a neighborhood that's changing rapidly um and then how how um different is the housing from uh what is already on the ground and so when you break it apart like that it um it's a little bit more complicated than just a single number but it's actually giving you as council members a lot of important information about how the this particular development is doing in terms of meeting your various priorities okay so if we wanted a breakdown of the location scores we can get that from you absolutely I and in addition to that it is um the information is posted online as part of the um CLT Community Hub um because developers are required to run their own location scores so this is in a public facing application anybody can go and check out the site score for any given location across the city of Charlotte um so we'll provide that link as well as a breakdown of uh how the different components of the score are created and what's that link so the link itself I'll I'll have to look up but the yeah the The Hub is called the CLT Community Hub so if you search for CLT Community it should bring up the Hub that's the location where we have um many of the public facing applications that have been created uh including development near me the housing locational tool um as well as the neighborhood organization contact list and a variety of other um interesting pieces of information um things that residents may be interested to um see thank you hopefully our Communications Department can put those links in our social media um comments you said you had a question and that you'd have the answer by January do you remember what that was oh said there was a second question you'd have the answer by January so yes I I I um what I was referencing council member Johnson is that we've been doing a lot of work um at the staff level and looking at how other communities and and other um Partners uh evaluate the return on investment for um affordable housing now I want to I want to um backpedaling a little in case that's what I said I don't think we'll have an answer by January but what I'm what I'm hoping to do is that we will be able to do some work with our partners on how to better Define the impact um that affordable housing has the return on investment for any given household so the metrics that we've shared this evening um are return on investment as it relates to the developments themselves how efficient is that development how impactful is that development in terms of the rent savings generated for households but what we know about households and affordable housing is that it then creates stability for them that then enables them to uh achieve other outcomes that might not have been possible if they weren't in um a stable housing situation so we're trying to do a little bit of work to really Define that return on investment um for other outcomes for residents that are able to live in affordable housing in our community I I hope and I'm sure you are are going to work with the county because there are more there's more of a return on investment than just Financial you know it's the soci determinance of health and just you know breaking generational cycles and all of that so it's important so thank you um okay there used to be a 30,000 um 30,000 deficit of affordable housing that was the number that we were using do we know what that number is now do know what that number is and I'm not going to be able to give it to you off the top of my head it has increased so we calculate that number every year that number represents the Gap in affordable rental housing in Charlotte um that number is also available on a dash board and that dashboard can be found on Charlotte's open data portal uh so anyone who wants to take a look at what that number is um I I I might be I might be sticking my foot in my mouth at this point but I think it's about $35,000 so $35,000 units I'm getting the yeah give or take um so I think so it has increased um and again that's the difference between the number of units that are affordable um at 50% Ami and below and the number of households um that that need um affordable housing at that level okay I know that uh in livan there's like 16,000 folks on the weight list I don't they're not even taking applications right now I know someone that that's been on a weight list for 11 years um speaking speaking of affordable housing if I am disabled and I earn SSI or receive SSI of $800 a month I can't really afford the 561 or these these these set rates so those are folks that are are homeless population what are we building um as far as income based housing and it's not a county responsibility that's still a city responsibility so what's going on in that range sure there are a couple of ways that we support the population of households that are much below that 30% um area median income um tonight you didn't see any Supportive Housing uh investment proposals again when we get to a lower balance in the Housing Trust Fund and especially in the winter round of the Housing Trust Fund we tend to get proposals that are for uh the tax credit deals so you did see a proposal um that in fact you approved in the last round for 64 um permanent Supportive Housing units so that's one way that the city invests in um th in those households uh another way that those households can Access housing is through other kinds of um rental sub subsidies so not just in livian vouchers but there are other types of rental subsidies also again not nearly enough just like uh not nearly enough um uh uh housing Choice vouchers um but there are other rental subsidies that support households and then finally I would reference the work that you all approved last uh fall related to the nonprofit housing support grants so the funding that went to Hill Charlotte for um transitional housing for example so there are many different ways that you as a s as a um Council invest in those households um that are much below the 30% area median income um and and um they're not reflected in the presentation tonight primarily because of the timing of the winter RFP and the amount of funding that's available in the Housing Trust Fund thank you um just two more questions so was is this all of the applications that we received we received seven applications so five that were recommended and two recommended for deferral okay so I noticed that they're in districts one two one through four yes so we don't receive we didn't receive applications in for districts 5 through seven not in this round but if you take a look at the map of Housing Trust Fund Investments over time you'll see there there are a certain ly um spread out throughout districts 1 2 3 4 and 5 so although we don't have any proposals in District 5 today uh we certainly um have you certainly have supported affordable housing in District 5 in the past uh districts six and seven due to high land costs we tend to get fewer applications from those districts uh we have we have some incentives in the um RFP that try to get more of those uh developments in um but they are harder to make work in terms of the development deals um we have a couple of recent examples though uh last um uh round in the RFP you approved a uh Noah development in district 7 I believe Swan Run um as well as we're we are um still working through the uh evoke living um project that has uh been approved approved on the uh cmpd land and district 7 um that was approved as part of the city-owned land RFP so while they are uh more difficult to make work and less frequent we certainly have seen some of those proposals in recent rounds thank you I I'd like to see that that map and mayor if we could take a look at that map um and maybe take a look at incentives so that these are balanced and the um affordable housing is not inundated in certain areas when we talk about a city um we can look at it from an equitable perspective that's one of the things that we talked about in our framework I think that would be a great idea and make sure these housing housing are is spread out so that we're not just perpetuating that that taale of Two Cities thank you um and let's see so I don't know if that's something that the committee can take a look at there thanks and then how does a person how can they keep up with these wonderful complexes you know I go to grand openings and some of those complexes already have a weight list how do individuals H how are they made aware is there is it possible we could have some type of repository I I don't know if there could be one centralized is weight lless I mean I I don't know what that would look like but how do citizens and I know council member Mayfield has talked about this you know folks will know from out of out of state about complexes before our own citizens do how do those who are in need of housing these 16,000 people on another weight list and how do we get that information out to them sure right now that is very fragmented and an an individual or a house househ holds searching for affordable housing uh may have to keep up with what's coming online and when and when those applications are due and what's needed and and when to put them in um so it's is a very difficult process for households to navigate right now but we have heard you loud and clear um that you want us to identify an uh easier way for residents to find and access affordable housing so we have we actually have two projects um uh in various stages right now um one is a um proof of concept application that our um Innovation and Technology team has been working on with uh google.org and one of the one of the things there is really the idea of one application for City programs so um this is a little bit of a detour from uh the Housing Trust Fund but for example one of the things that we're looking at including on that platform is a single application for um housing rehab so right now uh there are several uh organizations in the city that um complete housing repair and rehab for households and using the same idea we're working on how can you put in just one application and get connected to the right program to meet your needs but also not have to apply multiple times so that that's actually in the works right now the other project that we're working on is in the conceptual stage um which is how might we in collaboration with our partners create a single um repository as you as you noted of available affordable housing and how might we prioritize um residents based on things like have they been displaced from um other locations in the past have they been on the waiting list for housing for a long time Etc so that's a long journey um we've we've been doing some leg work about available um applications and tools that could be used to do that and Warren and his team have talked to quite a number of folks um we're really excited about this idea but it's something that we're going to have to um uh navigate uh carefully along with our partners to make sure that it remains a fair and Equitable process um and in ensuring that folks have uh access to affordable housing and then um also working with our development Partners to um you know uh get them on board as it relates to using that single application and weight list so it's a long long road I'm not going to promise anything by any time um but we have heard you loud and clear we've been researching the options and we're looking forward to Bringing forward a proposal to you at some point in the future thank you that would be great than even with the application processes or fees but we can talk about it thank you thank you for your work that's all I have mayor council member Mayfield thank you madam mayor Rebecca thank you for everything that you have done stepping into this role and for your team and thinking outside the box you already know I'm like going to be a super cheer leader for Warren and everything that he does with us couple of questions one I'm going to start with the end regarding uh speaking of fair and Equitable processes and just so that my colleague know we know that a number of us had the opportunity to go last week or so week before to the grand opening of the Barrack through Laurel Street one of the things that Deion Nelson did was a lottery based on unit Ami to have a more Equitable process I did have a conversation with Julie Porter last week sharing that idea cuz for years now previous first time around and since coming back sharing that these list that we have stop Reinventing the whe you already have the information you already have their name take the time pick up a phone go through that current list before creating new list new application all of these things so I don't know if it's necessarily our responsibility to try to figure out a way to house that conversation but I do think we may have a opportunity through our language in the application of what the expectation could be with how we address the need cuz that 30 to 38,000 is a lot but it also doesn't take into account how many people have moved to the city over these last 10 years during the time where we were trying to address some of the housing need when we have in here on slide nine when we were talking about the metrics so the question and I've asked this question previously to others when we say a 10year rent savings are we actually tracking the length of stay for that tenant or or that unit cuz that's the challenge if we're not tracking that tenant and we're saying affordability but that tenant is only able to be there maybe 3 years because there's a rent increase automatically built into that new development as well then are we really hitting the goal that we said here's why we're comfortable using tax dollars that's a different conversation manager Jones I don't know what that metric would look like but I think that would be much more feasible because if we're continuing to have conversations of wraparound Services there should be an expectation that within a certain number of years whether that's 5 years 7 years that you should be working towards self-sufficiency unless there's a greater need of wraparound services but if you're in that I would say the 50 and greater Ami or really yeah 50 40 and 50 and up then are we really giving you the chance to be successful by connecting you to job training to employment all these other things and are we making sure that you've maintained the affordability of that unit that our taxes have paid for or have you been displaced and we just have a revolving door on that unit because that's that's a challenge if we're not really tracking that particular metric because then we might be losing some very important information so we have the same individual going through our system because they keep getting priced out of where they thought they had an opportunity for entry for the malet and sugar create on slide 12 when you were giving us the breakdown Miss heer so the total this unit that they're saying is going to cost around1 million in change for the total development well for all of them What's the total number of units that these developments are cuz I have a concern when I've recently seen some projects that come in with 300 plus units and you're telling me out of 300 plus units 20 fall in our category or over 300 units 50 might fall in these numbers give me the total number of affordability whether that mixes 30 50 greater than 50 but and you don't have to give it now but it will be helpful to know what the total unit count is so that we can have a real conversation of Are We addressing our goals cu the 350 unit development with 10 units of affordability is not really addressing our goal that's reflected on these slides so if you take a look at the um uh box that illustrates unit mix so the it includes the number of units that are market rate so at this particular development for example there are no market rate units meaning there are 60 total units and all 60 of them are affordable units but we're saying total bedrooms 104 so that's just the mix of two one two and three yeah so that's that illust Ates the mix of one two and three bedroom units um and so in this case out of those 60 units you get 104 bedrooms because you do have a mix of one two and three so this total development is cost about just under $20 million to build a 60 unit development correct okay I will love to say I am very excited regarding our Legacy visa and our Littles Landing I know a number of my colleagues have already had a chance but I also had a chance to go out to Central Medallion Town Homes last week and I personally am not a fan of town homes was not a fan of town homes have a much better appreciation of town homes after that visit looking at there's no Habitat homes today are extr extremely different than even 10 years ago much less 20 years ago so when we talk about affordability affordability 10 years ago is very different than what it is today so that development along Central there's no way driving by walking in visiting that you can tell the difference between that and others I do say long-term conversation the conversation which my colleague mentioned full circle where we were talking last meeting and now talking about triplexus quads the proposal for the duplex and quadplex for me is a different conversation cuz we're talking about ownership not rental and I think we have a opportunity Mr manager with our language opposed to just this blanket language being more specific for when a project is is addressing our Collective goal as a council and working with our nonprofit partners that we make sure that our language doesn't create the hindrance or the obstacle because we've created additional costs because of setbacks and some other things that for-profit market may be able to absorb more than some of our smaller developers but if we're talking about infield duplex quad Triplex I personally am a lot more comfortable with the ownership capability of that versus the rental and even when we talk about the affordability level 15 years as a owner that gives me a chance to build up Equity knowing that as a partner whether I received down payment assistance or just went straight through their program that they have first right to purchase to keep it but I still get to earn some Equity but if I do stay there over 20 years that just creates a different conversation of stability for my understanding and you actually answered one of the questions that well the question regarding the one the to proposal that we sub that was submitted to us was that the only proposal for our RFP that we put out yes so that is a rolling RFP like similar to our no uh acquisition RFP meaning it's uh open until the funds are exhausted so um the it's similar to Noah in the way that it's an opportunistic type of of um RFP where it there's a Time urgency in the marketplace so the Noah acquisition and the Tod land acquisition they don't fit well with our structured fixed RF PS for the Housing Trust Fund so they are set up again what we call the rolling RFP so the land acquisition RFP opened in January and this is the first and only proposal that you have received so far so I did not remember that at that what we agreed upon was a 90% financing of the land acquisition so we we can have a different have a separate convers I'm sure we will hear from you me get there for for 90% but ultimately the work that you all as a team have been doing I feel like you're hearing us you're here in a community we still have an opportunity to tweak some things with our Udo since it's a living document to make sure we can address the needs but I'm concerned about that 84,000 that might be left and what the what else around that which we can also have a different conversation cuz if something else comes in where does the money come from because we still got to go to the community and get them to vote for it they should get out and go vote so that will be an interesting conversation it gives me a little heart pation to go down that low but thank you for answering those questions and everything you and the team have been doing Miss watlington thank you madam mayor um well I've got some stuff I'll probably just actually offline um I think the main thing that I think we've got to keep ever before us is as we spin up this last bit of money and we think about the next round and even trying to potentially increase um housing bonds I really look at this last set as kind of the increment the incremental change of what we did before so definitely I echo my colleague sentiments in terms of um we appreciate the work that you all are doing and trying to think outside of the box I think it's um Inc coming upon us now around this di to really take it the next step um especially as we go to ask our community to support um any kind of increase um it's our time to start thinking outside the box and figure out what this really needs to look like in a way that is a compelling um uh value proposition to our community and how we're going to invest I believe that our housing has to be considered in concert with economic development in concert with Mobility because all of those things impact people and as much as we talk about um people centered focus on um some of our Housing Programs I think we need to think about that in terms of our investment as well and in light of that and in light of some of the conversations we've been having around really shifting to home ownership and I see um the home ownership opportunities here um um I believe that we are at a place where we should expect in the next cycle um and even as we're asking folks to Double Down um that we offer up something significantly different that meets the need for today um and that it be holistic in its approach um and that it encompasses many of the things that we've been talking about for several years now as it relates to this Housing Development Fund um so I'll I'll leave my Mr D uh thank you mayor I just wanted to particularly highlight the uh habitat proposals really pleased to see those we've talked a lot about ownership I've maintained for a long time that habitat has kind of figured this out already and why don't we just get with them instead of trying to invent it for ourselves so glad to see that uh spent some time this afternoon with Rebecca oring and faith trigs and went into a little bit more of the specifics about these transactions are put together I think it would make sense for us to have a better basis for comparing a per door number in that model with the per door numbers we see for the litec because they're apples and oranges right so so we would have to have some uniform value metric that we could use to bridge across those two things and the last thing I'll me mention is when we were in Washington I was talking to uh uh some of the staffers we saw about uh having the federal government come up with support for ownership models because what we have from them right now is litech which basically supports rental models and I understand that there is now legislation that has been drafted uh to that effect so uh I think it'd be great if we were pretty vocal in making clear to our Representatives that that is something that we feel is very much in line with what we're trying to do thank you all right mayor Pro him thank you Madame mayor U Mr DRS I completely agree with your last comment um around the motivation and assistance for home ownership just a couple things I I want to lift up the uh grounds for change project that's in 28209 and uh the combination of collaboration of YWCA and dream key and um I'm not sure if everyone's aware but the YWCA in particular at that site has been a advocate and really um a a champion of affordable housing for decades um in the back of that property there are Apartments there that help families that are you know very Upstream to potentially being homeless and um the building itself has always been and still does have space for um women to have access to Affordable livable space and even years ago there used to be a halfway house on the on the lawn of that property which you know if everything goes well grounds of change will will have affordable housing on that same lawn so literally for decades and decades and decades the YWCA of Charlotte has been an incredible advocate for affordable housing and this is uh an incredible neighborhood if I do say so myself as my neighborhood Hood I live in 28209 U but the location and um the location and a diversity of stock that this project will bring online um to the houses are there it's in an incredible uh Transit area as was mentioned earlier Rebecca so I just think this is an amazing way to bring a affordable housing to the 28209 area U that otherwise would not be there so just wanted to thank um YWCA and dream key for that in addition to uh lifting up what habitat does I I couldn't agree more with Mr DRS if they have figured out a model and we need to just borrow and improve upon that model um and and help them and partner with them as much as we can um they've brought on so many incredible units um throughout the city of Charlotte and this is a way to impact and change fam's outcomes so very happy to see this I hope we can work through the language around uh triplexes here and uh bring a unique style to uh these two particular sites that would not be able that habitat would not be able to access were it not for you know arod dollas from the county so I'm very excited Rebecca uh about what you've put together here you know you're following Shawn and Shan had big big uh Footprints to to fill and I I think you're doing a great job of having an open mind and being creative and collaborating so thank you for the material and the work that your team has done and I'm looking forward to continuing discussions on it thank you madam mayor all right thank you um we really appreciate you staying all of you that are our partners we all work with you we love the work that you do we're fortunate in our city to be able to have these kinds of collabor ations it's what makes us different um Rebecca and the entire Team all of you thank you for what you have the passion that is it's illustrated by this dis for this effort and this work so let's just keep it rolling so now um we'll go to our next item on our agenda which is the Charlotte mecklinburg Regional Housing Consortium um the action is to approve continuing the city's participation in the Charlotte mecklinburg Regional Housing consult for the home investment Partnerships program funding period of July 2021 through June 30 2027 with successive automatic renewals periods thereafter Rebecca we have we have a motion from Mr DS and a second any discussion on this hearing none all in favor of the item please raise your hands anyone oppos there no there is no opposition so I believe we need now a motion to adj do we have a motion to adjourn to adjourn yes yes all right we have a motion to adjourn everyone thank you very much for the work that you've done this evening [Music] la e for