I WILL CALL THIS BLOOMINGTON CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO ORDER TONIGHT MONDAY OCTOBER 9TH NINTH 2023. THANK YOU FOR JOINING US HERE IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS. THANKS FOR JOINING US. THOSE WATCHING AT HOME WE'LL START OUR MEETING AS WE ALWAYS DO IF YOU WOULD PLEASE STAND AND JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL . ONCE AGAIN, THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE AND WELCOME. GLAD TO HAVE EVERYBODY WITH US COUNCIL OUR FIRST ITEM OF BUSINESS TONIGHT IS TO ADOPT TONIGHT'S AGENDA AND OUR AGENDA IS FAIRLY BRIEF THIS EVENING SO I'M GUESSING LIKE 1045 OR 11 OR SO AND WE'LL BE OUT OF HERE WE'VE GOT A COUPLE OF INTRODUCTORY ITEMS. WE'VE GOT A COUPLE OF PROCLAMATIO. ITEM 2.1 IS REGARDING NATIONAL DISABILITY EMPLOYMENT AWARENESS MONTH AND ITEM 2.2 IS ANOTHER PROCLAMATION FOR OUR SISTER CITIES INTERNATIONAL DAY. I SEE WE HAVE SOME REPRESENTATIVES OF THE BLOOMINGTON SISTER CITY AUBURN ORGANIZATION HERE TO RECEIVE OUR PROCLAMATION. OUR CONSENT BUSINESS IS TEN ITEMS LONG AND COUNCILMEMBER CARTER HAS A CONSENT AGENDA THIS EVENING UNDER ITEM FOUR ARE HEARINGS, RESOLUTIONS AND ORDINANCES. WE HAVE ONE PUBLIC HEARING TONIGHT REGARDING A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE ASSESSMENT ROLE FOR 2023. ITEM FIVE IS OUR ORGANIZATIONAL BUSINESS AND WE'VE GOT THREE ITEMS UNDER ORGANIZATIONAL BUSINESS A DISCUSSION ABOUT A PROPOSED NEW PROGRAM HATCH BLOOMINGTON WHICH I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT CONVERSATION. WE WILL HAVE THE BUDGET DISCUSSION FOR OUR PUBLIC SAFETY PROFESSIONALS. SO WE'LL BE HEARING FROM BOTH THE CHIEF OF POLICE, OF THE CHIEF OF POLICE AND THE CHIEF OF OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT THIS EVENING AND THEN WE'LL WRAP UP THE EVENING AS WE ALWAYS DO WITH OUR CITY COUNCIL POLICY AND ISSUE UPDATE COUNCIL ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONS, SUBTRACTIONS OR CORRECTIONS TO TONIGHT'S AGENDA? IF NOT I WILL MOVE TONIGHT'S AGENDA AS STATED SECOND MOTION IN A SECOND TO ACCEPT TONIGHT'S AGENDA AS STATED NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSE MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO NOW THAT WE HAVE AN AGENDA FIRST ITEM IS ITEM 2.1 AND 2.2 TO PROCLAMATIONS AND I'M GOING TO HEAD DOWN TO THE PODIUM FOR THESE BECAUSE THAT TIME OF YEAR NOW WE HE TWO OCLAMATIONS AND AS I SAID IN OUR FIRST PROCLAMATION AS ITEM 2.1 FOR NATIONAL DISABILITY EMPLOYMENT AWARENESS MONTH, I'M JOINED HERE BY JAN HOLMQUIST FROM OUR FINANCE DEPARTMENT. I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH THE THE PROCLAMATION AND THEN JAN IS GOING TO TELL US ABOUT A NEW EMPLOYEE GROUP THAT IS BEING FORMED HERE IN THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON. AND I WILL DO OUR PROCLAMATION FOR THE NATIONAL DISABILITY EMPLOYMENT AWARENESS MONTH OCTOBER 2023. WHEREAS OCTOBER 2023 MARKS THE 78TH ANNIVERSARY OF NATIONAL DISABILITY DISABILITY EMPLOYNT AWARENESS MTH. AND. WHEREAS THE PURPOSE OF NATIONAL DISABILITY EMPLOYMENT AWARENESS MONTH IS TO EDUCATE ABOUT DISABILITY EMPLOYMENT ISSUES AND TO CELEBRATE THE MANY AND VARIED CONTRIBUTIONS OF AMERICA'S WORKERS WITH DISABILITIES. AND. WHEREAS, THE HISTORY OF NATIONAL DISABILITY EMPLOYMENT AWARENESS MONTH TRACES BACK TO 1945 WHEN CONGRESS ENACTED A LAW DECLARING THE FIRST WEEK IN OCTOBER EACH YEAR NATIONAL EMPLOYEE THE PHYSICALLY HANDICAPPED WEEK AND. WHEREAS IN 1962 THE WORD PHYSICALLY WAS REMOVED TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE EMPLOYMENT NEEDS AND CONTRIBUTIONS OF INDIVIDUALS WITH ALL TYPES OF DABILIES. AND. WHEREAS, IN 1988 CONGRESS EXPANDED THE WEEK TO A MONTH AND CHANGED THE NAME TO NATIONAL DISABILITY EMPLOYMENT AWARENESS MONTH. AND. WHEREAS, WORKPLACES WELCOMING OF THE TALENTS OF ALL PEOPLE INCLUDING PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES ARE A CRITICAL PART OF OUR EFFORTS TO BUILD AN INCLUSIVE COMMUNITY AND STRONG ECONOMY. AND. WHEREAS, ACTIVITIES DURING THIS MONTH WILL REINFORCE THE VALUE AND TALENT PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES ADD TO OUR WORKPLACES AND COMMUNITIES AND AFFIRM BLOOMINGTON'S COMMITMENT TO AN INCLUSIVE COMMUNITY THAT INCREASES ACCESS AND OPPORTUNITIES TO ALL INCLUDINGNDIVIDLS WIT DISABILITIES. NOW THEREFORE I'M TIM BUSSEY, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON, HEREBY PROCLAIM THAT THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON RECOGNIZES AND COMMEMORATE THE 70TH ANNIVERSARY OF NATIONAL DISABILITY EMPLOYMENT AWARENESS MONTH AND BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON CALLS UPON EMPLOYERS, SCHOOLS AND OTHER COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS IN BLOOMINGTON TO OBSERVE THIS MONTH WITH APPROPRIATE PROGRAMS AND ACTIVITIES TO ADVANCE THE IMPORTANT MESSAGE THAT PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES ADD VALUE AND TALENT TO OUR WORKPLACES AND COMMUNITIES AND BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON PLEDS TO CONTINU TOAKE STEPS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR TO RECRUIT HIRE, RETAIN AND ADVANCE INDIVIDUALS WITH DISABILITIES AND WORK TO PURSUE THE GOALS OF OPPORTUNITY FULL PARTICIPATION ECONOMIC SELF-SUFFICIENCY AND INDEPENDENT LIVING FOR PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES SIGN THIS NINTH DAY OF OCTOBER 2023 AND I HONESTLY DIDN'T REALIZE THAT THIS WENT ALL THE WAY BACK TO 1945. I MEAN THIS IS IT'S A BIT OF A HISTORY LESSON FOR ME AS WELL AND I KNOW THAT AS WE EXPAND EXPANDED AND SAW DISABILITIES IN A GREATER LIGHT AS WE HEARD EARLIER, IT MOVED TO INCDE PEOP WITH MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES AS WELL. AND SO I KNOW WE'VE GOT WE'VE GOT JAN HERE TO TALK ABOUT SOME ACTIVITIES HERE WITHIN THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON REGARDING THAT IF YOU WANT TO YOU CAN JUST BEND THAT I CARE. I ALWAYS GET A SHOCK. I'M GLAD YOU DIDN'T. THANK YOU SO MUCH, MAYOR. YES, I AM PLEASED TO SAY THAT TODAY WE SUBMITTED AN APPLICATION IN FOR THE CHARTER FOR A NEW ESG AND EMPLOYEE RESOURCE GROUP FOR MENTAL HEALTH AND DISABILITIES. WE ARE HERE TO ADVOCATE AND OFFER SUPPORT TO PEOPLE THAT HAVE MENTAL HEALTH AND OTHER DISABILITIES AND OR OTHER DISABILITIES AS WELL. SO I'M REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO IT. WE'VE ALREADY HAD ONE MEETING OF OUR GROUP PER SE OR YOU KNOW INTEREST AND WE HOPE TO BE ABL TO BRING FORTH MORE INFORMATION TO THE CITY AND HELP OTHERS WHO HAVE THIS OR ARE DEALING WITH PEOPLE THAT HAVE THESE CONDITIONS. WELL, APPRECIATE THAT AND APPRECIATE YOUR EFFORTS AND ALL OF OUR EMPLOYEES EFFORTS. INOW WE'VE GOT A GROWING GROUP OF OF EMPLOYEE GROUPS WITHIN THE CITIES DEALING WITH A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT ADVOCACY AND INTERESTS AND CONCERNS. AND IT'S NICE TO ADD THIS TO THE LIST SO WELL THEN THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT. THANK YOU. HERE'S THE PROCLAMATION DO WE HAVE ANYBODY TO TAKE THE GRIP AND GRIN HERE? HERE COMES MIKE TO TAKE THE GRIP AND GRIN. COME ON OVER HERE. IT'S VERY GOOD. THANK YOU SO VERY . OUR SECOND PROCLAMATION THIS EVENING IS THAT OF 2.2 AND THIS IS A SISTER CITY'S INTERNATIONAL DAY PROCLAMATION AND WE'VE BEEN HEARING A LOT ABOUT SISTER CITIES OVER THE LAST FEW WEEKS HERE WITH THE VISIT FROM OUR SISTER CITIES SISTER CITY REPRESENTATIVES FROM IZUMI THE TRAVEL THAT WE DID TO IZUMI CITY AND THEN THE MARATHONERS FROM IZUMI CITY COMING TO BLOOMINGTON AND NOW WE'VE GOT THE THE SISTER CITY'S INTERNATIONAL DAY PROCLAMATION. SO WE'RE ALL ABOUT SISTER CITIES OVER THE LAST 60 DAYS HERE IN THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON SISTER CITIES, INTERNATIONAL DAY, OCTOBER 14TH, 2023 WHEREAS SISTER CITIES INTERNATIONAL WAS FOUNDED AS A PRESIDENTIAL INITIATIVE BY PRESIDENT DWIGHT EISENHOWER ON SEPTEMBER 11TH, 1956 TO CREATE MORE COMMUNITY LED GLOBAL RELATIONSHIPS AND BUILD PARTNERSHIPS THAT WOULD LESSEN THE CHANCE OF INTERNATIONAL CONFLICTS. AND. WHEREAS, SISTER CITIES INTERNATIONAL DAY IS A FITTING OCCASION TO COMMEMORATE THE IMPACT THAT THE SISTER CITIES ORGANIZATION HAS MADE IN BUILDING BRIDGES ACROSS NATIONS, CITIES AND COMMUNITIES AROUND THE GLOBE IN ORDER TO CREATE AND SUSTAIN WORLD PEACE. AND. WHEREAS, THERE I NO BETTER DAY TO CELEBRATE THE BIRTH OF THE SISTER CITIES MOVEMENT THAN ON THE BIRTHDAY OF ITS FOUNDER PRESIDENT DWIGHT EISENHOWER ON OCTOBER 14TH. AND. WHEREAS, SISTER CITIES INTERNATIONAL CURRENTLY HAS 345 MEMBER CITIES, COUNTIES AND STATES THAT HAVE RELATIONSHIPS WITH 800 COMMUNITIES IN 138 COUNTRIES ON SIX CONTINENTS. AND. WHEREAS THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON IS PROUD TO BE PART OF THIS GLOBAL NETWORK WITH A SISTER CITY PARTNERSHIP WITH IZUMI JAPAN THAT WAS LAUNCHED 30 YEARS AGO TODAY 30 YEARS AGO THIS YEAR. AND WHEREAS, THE TWO CITIES HAVE SPONSORED MANY MAYORAL AND STUDENT VISITS MARATHON RUNNERS, STUDENT ART EXHIBITS AND MORE IN COLLABORATION WITH THE BLOOMINGTON SISTER CITY ORGANIZATION AND THE IZUMI INTERNATIONAL EXCHANGE ASSOCIATION. NOW THEREFORE AMY OR TIM BUSSEY DO HEREBY PROCLAIM OCTOBER 14TH, 2023 AS SISTER CITIES INTERNATIONAL DAY IN BLOOMINGTON AND IN HONOR OF THIS DAY COMMEMORATE THE 30TH ANNIVERSARY OF THE SISTER CITY RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN BLOOMINGTON, MINNESOTA U.S.A. AND THE ZOOM JAPAN WHICH WAS ESTABLISHED ON NOVEMBER 24TH, 1993 DATE OF THIS NINTH DAY OF OCTOBER 2023 WE HAVE TWO MEMBERS OF OUR BLOOMINGTON SISTER CITY ORGANIZATION WITH US HERE WE HAVE DAVE MURPHY AND DAN LIBBEY. ONE IF YOU GENTLEMEN WANT TO COME UP, IF SOMEBODY WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THE MICROPHONE, IT'S ALL YOURS. BUT AS I SAID, I APPRECIATE ALL THAT WE HAVE DONE OVER THE LAST 96, 90 DAYS AND IN PARTNERSHIP WITH OUR SISTER CITY AND IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE ORGANIZATIONS SUCH AS YOURS THAT MAKES IT ALL HAPPEN. THANK YOU, MAYOR. YEAH, WE HAVE REALLY APPRECIATED THE HOSPITALITY, THE HOSTING, THE STUDENTS YOU KNOW I SEE YOUNOW, JAMI AND THE FIRE CHIEF HERE WERE VERY HOSPITABLE AS WELL, YOU KNOW, GREAT HOSTS WHEN THE WHEN THE GROUP WAS HERE AND YOU KNOW, IT REALLY WAS AN IMPACTFUL EVENT FOR THE KIDS AND IT WAS EXCITING TO HEAR THAT YOU WERE ABLE TO GO AND VISIT IZUMI AND NEXT YEAR WILL BE YOU KNOW THE STUDENT DELEGATION FROM BLOOMINGTON WILL BE GO AMBULANCE FABULOUS EXCITING STUFF AND WE ARE EXCITED ABOUT THE PROCLAMATION WELL HAPPY TO PRESENT IT TO BOTH OF YOU AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR ONGOING WORK. I MEAN ANYTHING THAT'S LASTED THREE DECADES IT'S NOT JUST ONE PERSON I MEAN THIS HAS BEEN PASSED ON THROUGH A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT PEOPLE AND I APPRECIATE YOUR PICKING UP THE TORCH AND CARRYING IT BECAUSE THIS IS AN IMPORTANT THING AND AND I'VE SEEN IT CERTAINLY OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF MONTHS HERE JUST HOW MUCH IT MEANS TO A LOT OF PEOPLE. SO THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR DOING IT AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT. ABSOLUTELY GREAT. IT ABSOLUTELY WHY DON'T YOU COME ON OVER HERE? WE'LL DO THE OFFICIAL PICTURE . YOU COULD ALL THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MICHEL. APPRECIATE IT JULIE. ITEM THREE ON OUR AGENDA IS OUR CONSENT CALENDAR AND COUNCILMEMBER CARTER HAS CONSENT. THANK YOU, MAYOR. SO AS OF NOW I HAVE ONE HOLD FOR ITEM 3.1 LAST CALL FOR HOLDS. OKAY SO WITH THAT I WILL MOVE TO APPROVE ITEM 3.2 THROUGH 3.10. SECOND WE HAVE A MOTION TO MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER CARTER SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN TO ACCEPT TONIGHT'S CONSENT BUSINESS AS STATED NO FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I I I OPPOSED THE MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO COUNCILMEMBER CARTER ITEM 3.1 SO COUNCILMEMBER ACTUALLY ASKED TO HOLD THAT? YES THANK YOU MAYOR. I JUST WANTED TO HOLD THIS TO I DON'T HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH IT. I JUST WANTED TO TAKE A MOMENT TO THANK ALL THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE VOLUNTEER THEIR TIME, THEIR ENERGY, THEIR EFFORTS TO MAN THE VOTING STATIONS. I KNOW WITH THE LIST THAT WE HAVE IT'S TWO PAGES WORTH OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE VOLUNTEERED TO BE ELECTION JUDGES. AND I KNOW THAT RESIDENTS OF BLOOMINGTON TAKE OUR ELECTIONS VERY SERIOUSLY. AND SO TO HAVE THIS NUMBER OF PEOPLE STEP FORWARD AND VOLUNTEER JUST REALLY MEANS A LOT TO THE CITY AND TO THE RESIDENTS OF BLOOMINGTON. SO I JUST WANT TO TAKE THAT CHANCE TO THANK THEM TODAY. AND SO WITH THAT I WILL MOVE TO THAT RESOLUTION FOR THE APPOINTMENT OF INDIVIDUALS AS ELIGIBLE TO SERVE AS ELECTION JUDGES FOR THE 2023 GENERAL ELECTION SECOND MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER CARTER TO ACCEPT OUT OF 3.1 OF THE CONSENT BUSINESS A BIT OF COUNCIL DISCUSSION I COULDN'T AGREE MORE COUNCILMEMBER THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS AND THANK YOU TO OUR ELECTION JUDGES FOR OUR GENERAL ELECTION WE ALWAYS WHETHER IT'S THE EVENING YOUR ELECTIONS WE'RE UP OVER 90% PARTICIPATION AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A VERY HIGH NUMBER AGAIN THIS YEAR IN THE OFF YEAR ELECTION. AND I THINK ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS WHYS PEOPLE APPRECIATE THE EASE, THE CONVENIENCE, THE HOW WELL-RUN OUR ELECTIONS ARE AND THEIR TRUST IN THE ELECTION PROCESS IN THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON. THOSE ARE OUR NEIGHBORS WHO ARE OUR ELECTION JUDGES. THEY'RE THE FOLKS MAKING SURE THAT IT ALL GOES WELL AND THEY DO A FANTASTIC JOB. SO THANK YOU FOR SAYING THAT COUNCILMEMBER MOTION AND A SECOND TO ACCEPT ITEM 3.1 NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION IF NOT ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSE THE MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER CARTER APPRECIATE IT WHENE TOTEM FOUR ON OUR AGENDA THIS IS OUR HEARINGS RESOLUTIONS AND ORDINANCES WE HAVE ONE PUBLIC HEARING THIS EVENING AND IN 4.1 IS A PUBLIC HEARING TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION APPROVING ASSESSMENT ROLL 2020 3-1 WE HAVE BRIAN HANSON AND BOB SIMONS COMING FORWARD TO BRING US UP TO DATE ON THIS. GOOD EVENING GENTLEMEN. WELCOME EVENING. WE CAN GET OUR PRESENTATION . HE W GO. ALL RIGHT. WELL GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND COUNCIL I'M BOB SIMONS. I'M THE PROJECT ENGINEER FOR OUR 2023 RECONSTRUCTION PROJECT AND I'LL BE GIVING THE FIRST PART OF THE PRESENTATION AND A KIND OF A SUMMARY OF OUR PAYMENT MANAGEMENT PROGRAM. SOME OF YOU HAVE HEARD THIS PRESENTATION MANY, MANY TIMES. SOME OF YOU HAVE NOT AND THEN BRIAN HANSON WILL GO THROUGH SOME INFORMATION ON OUR SPECIAL ASSESSMENTS. SO TO GIVE A RUNDOWN OF THE PROPERTY OWNER CONTACT FOR THIS PROJECT OR 2023 1 TO 1 RECONSTRUCTION PROJECT LAST OCTOBER ESTIMATED ASSESSMENT NOTICES WERE MAILED OUT WHICH INCLUDED A NOTIFICATION FOR AN INFORMATIONAL MEETING AND A PUBLIC HEARING. THE INFORMATIONAL MEETINGS WERE HELD ON OCTOBER 25TH OF LAST FALL AND THEN WE HAD THE PUBLIC HEARING ON NOVEMBER 14TH TO ORDER THE STREETS FOR THIS THE 2023 PROJECT PRIOR TO CONSTRUCTION AND DURING CONSTRUCTION VARIOUS HANDOUTS WERE MAILED OR HANDED OUT DOOR TO DOORO THE RESIDENTS LETTING THEM KNOW OF UPCOMING WORK THAT WAS WHAT WAS COMING. AND THEN JUST RECENTLY HERE IN SEPTEMBER ON THE 20TH FINAL ASSESSMENT NOTICES WERE MAILED OUT THAT ONCE AGAIN INCLUDED A NOTICE FOR AN INFORMATIONAL MEETING AND A PUBLIC HEARING THAT WE'RE HERE FOR TONIGHT. WE HAD TWO INFORMATIONAL MEETINGS LAST WEDNESDAY AND OUR PUBLIC WORKS TRAINING ROOM ONE AT 230 AND ONE AT 530 TO REVIEW THE ASSESSMENTS. AND THEN WE'RE HERE TONIGHT FOR THE ASSESSMENT HEARING OUR PAYMENT MANAGEMENT PROGRAM OR PMP AS WE REFER TO IT. IT WAS ESTABLISHED BACK IN 1991. SO FOR MANY YEARS NOW WE'VE BEEN WE'VE BEEN IMPLEMENTING THIS PAYMENT MANAGEMENT PROGRAM. THE OVERALL GOAL OF THE PROGRAM IS TO REDUCE THE OVERALL COST OF OUR STREET MAINTENANCE OR STREET REPAIR COSTS BY IMPLEMENTING THE RIGHT ACTION AT THE RIGHT TIME TO DO THIS WE HAVE WE HAVE JUST OVER 340 MILES OF CITY OWNED STREETS IN BLOOMINGTON. WE HAVE A PAVEMENT CONDITION INDEX OR A PCI VALUE FOR EVERY STREET SEGMENT EVERY YEAR ONE THIRD OF THE CITY STREETS ARE MONITORED. THEIR LOCKED CRACKS ARE COUNTED, INFORMATION IS ENTERED INTO OUR OUR ICON SOFTWARE DATABASE AND WE'RE GIVEN A HIGH VALUE BETWEEN ZERO AND ONE 100 100 BEING A BRAND NEW ROADWAY AND ZERO BEING A ROADWAY IN DIRE NEED OF REPAIR. SO WE USE THESE PAVEMENT CONDITION INDEX VALUES TO COME UP WITH A MAP FOR THE UPCOMING 5 TO 7 YEARS ON KIND OF WHAT MAINTENANCE TECHNIQUE WOULD BEST WOULD BEST SUIT THAT STREET SECTION AND W DON ON USE THAT PCI NUMBER WE ALSO PUT THAT MAP TOGETHER AND THEN WE DO DRIVE AROUND EACH SPRING TO UPDATE THAT MAP, SEE WHAT HAPPENED OVER THE COURSE OF THE WINTER TIME, COORDINATE OUR WORK WITH OTHER PROJECTS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE HAVING GOING ON IN THE AREA AND THEN OF THE PMP PROGRAM, OUR STREET SEGMENTS ARE BUILT INTO ONE LARGER PROJECT. SO FOR EXAMPLE OUR STREET RECONSTRUCTION PROJECT THIS YEAR HAD JUST ABOUT FOUR MILES OF STREETS. WE BUILT IT INTO A LARGER PROJECT TO GET A BETTER ECONOMY OF SCALE WHICH IN TURN HELPS TO LOWER THE OVERALL COST. WE GET BETTER BIDS FROM THE CONTRACTOR, LOWERS THE OVERALL ASSESSMENT AND ALSO THE PORTION THE OTHER PORTION OF THE PROJECT THAT'S THAT'S COVERED BY CITY TAXPAYER THERE IS A COST SHARE WITH OUR STREET RECONSTRUCTION PROJECTS WITH THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES AND CITY TAXPAYERS. BRIAN WILL GET A LITTLE BIT MORE INTO THAT BUT OUR SINGLE TWO AND THREE FAMILY PROPERTIES PAY 25% OF THE COSTS OF SURFACING OR CURBING GUTTER IF THEY'RE HAVING NEW CARBON GUTTER INSTALLED AND ALL OTHER PROPERTY TYPES PAY 50% OF THOSE COSTS WE'LL GET THERE. THEN WE GO THROUGH OUR DIFFERENT CONSTRUCTION TECHNIQUES FOR PMP WE HAVE OUR FULL STREET RECONSTRUCTION WHICH THIS PROJECT ENTAILED. WE ACTUALLY DID HAVE FOUR STREET SEGMENTS ON THIS PROJECT THAT WERE MILLING OVERLAY BUT FOR A STREET RECONSTRUCTION IT'S THE COMPLETE REMOVAL AND REPLACEMENT OF THE PAVEMENT SECTION NEW CLASS FIVE GRAVEL IS INSTALLED AND NEW PAVEMENT IF THERE'S NOT EXISTING CURVING GUTTER ON THE STREET CURBING GUTTER IS INSTALLED PER THE CITY'S POLICY WITH THE PROJECT WE DID ONLY HAVE ONE SEGMENT ON THIS PROJECT THAT DID NOT HAVE CARBON GUTTER BEFORE WE CAME THROUGH FOR RECONSTRUCTION AND THIS IS DONE BY A CONTRACTOR THAT'S HIRED OUT BY THE CITY. THEN W HAV O STRT MILLING OVERLAY PORTION. AS I MENTIONED THERE WERE A FEW STREETS ON THIS PROJECT THAT THAT RECEIVED A MILLION OVERLAY. THAT'S WHERE AN EXISTING PORTION OF THE PAVEMENTS GROUND OFF AND A NEW LAYER HAS PAVED OVER THE TOP. THIS IS ALSO DONE BY A CONTRACTOR HIRED BY THE CITY. WE HAVE OUR STREETS HILCO TECHNIQUE WHERE BITUMINOUS ADHESIVE IS ADDED TO THE EXISTING PAVEMENT AGGREGATE IS ADDED TO THAT THE EXCESS AGGREGATE IS SWEPT OFF AND SO IT'S A MAINTENANCE TECHNIQUE THAT'S DONE STRICTLY ON THE SURFACE OF THE EXISTING PAVEMENT. PREVIOUSLY THIS WAS DONE BY OUR CITY'S MAINTENANCE FORCES BUT THIS IS THE FIRST YEAR THAT WE JOINED THE SOUTH METRO JOINT POWERS AGREEMENT TO HAVE A CONTRACTOR HIRED TO DO THAT WORK. MANYITIE IN THE SOUTH METRO ARE PART OF THAT AGREEMENT AND THIS WAS THE FIRST YEAR THAT WE HAD OUR SEAL COURT DONE WITH THAT USING THAT AGREEMENT AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE OUR TRAIL SIDEWALK CONSTRUCTION AND MAINTENANCE TECHNIQUE WHICH IS THERE CAN BE THE REMOVAL AND OR THE REPLACEMENT OF SIDEWALK OR OUR EXISTING TRAILS AND THEN ALSO WE MAY BE CRACK SEALING OR FOG SEALING THEM TO MAINTAIN THEM. THIS IS DONE BY BOTH PROJECTS THAT ARE HIRED OUT TO A CONTRACTOR AND ALSO OUR CITY'S MAINTENANCE DEPARTMENT DOES SOME OF THIS WORK AS WELL. HERE'S THE PAVEMENT LIFE CYCLE ON THE LEFT OUR NORMAL ROAD LIFE PUTTING OFF ANY SORT OF SORT OF UTINEAINTENANCE BETWEEN RECONSTRUCT OR AFTER RECONSTRUCTING THE ROADWAY GREATLY REDUCES THE LIFE OF THE ROAD SIMILAR TO IF YOU BUY A NEW VEHICLE YOU HAVE TO MAINTAIN IT WITH NEW BRAKES. OIL CHANGES IN SUCH THING WITH A NEW HOUSE IF IT'S NOT MAINTAINED IT'LL IT'LL DETERIORATE FASTER. THE GOAL OF THE PAVEMENT MANAGEMENT PROGRAM AS YOU SEE ON THE RIGHT IS BY IMPLEMENTING STREET SEAL COURTS AND STREET MILLING OVERLAYS THE MORE COST EFFECTIVE MAINTENANCE TECHNIQUES WE CAN INCREASE THE LIFE OF THAT PAVEMENT AND NOT NEED THOSE RECONSTRUCTION LARGER RECONSTRUCTION PROJECTS FOR A MUCH LONGER PERIOD OF TIME. NOW BRIAN, I'LL GO THROUGH SOME OF TH SPECIAL ASSESENT OR REFORMATION. THANKS BOB. I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE SPECIAL ASSESSMENT PORTION OF THE PROJECT SO MINNESOTA STATE STATUTE 429 ALLOWS PENALTIES SUCH AS CITIES TO CHARGE OR LEVY SPECIAL ASSESSMENTS FOR CERTAIN IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE POPPY PROJECT HERE IN BLOOMINGTON WE UTILIZE SPECIAL ASSESSMENT TO PAY FOR A PORTION OF THE TOTAL PROJECT COST. THE CITY'S ASSESSMENT POLICY HAS BEEN IN PLACE SINCE 1962 AND WE USE AN ADJUSTED FRONT FOOTAGE IS REALLY THE BASIS OF THE ASSESSMENT CALCULATION SO WE CALCULATED ADJUSTED FRONT FOOTAGE FOR ALL PARCELS IN THE CITY THAT MULTIPLIED BY THE RATEF THE APPROPRIATE ASSET ARE APPROPRIATE IMPROVEMENT EXCUSE ME DETERMINES THE TOTAL ASSESSMENT FOR EACH PARCEL SO THE ADJUSTED FRONT FOR IT IS REALLY A FUNCTION OF THE AREA OF THE PARCEL SO IT ATTEMPTS TO EQUATE ALL PARCELS REGARDLESS OF THEIR SHAPE AS THOUGH THEY'RE A RECTANGULAR LOT SO IT TRIES TO BE EQUITABLE AS FAR AS HOW WE APPLY OUR ASSESSMENT POLICY TO ALL PROPERTIES REGARDLESS OF SHAPE. OTHER CITIES USE SPECIAL ASSESSMENTS AS WELL TO PAY FOR A PORTION OF OUR PROJECT. OTHER PROJECTS. SO WE ARE NOT UNIQUE IN THAT SENSE. SO FOR THE 2023 ONE ON ONE PROJECT THE TOTAL PROJECT COST CAME IN AT JUST OVER FIVE AND A HALF MILLION DOLRS AND THATNCLUD SURFACING URBAN GUTTER UTILITY IMPROVEMENTS, TRAIL IMPROVEMENTS AND AS BOB MENTIONED THE OVERLAY PROJECT AS WELL AS SOME OVERLAY DISTRICTS AS PART OF THAT THE CITY ONLY ASSESSES FOR CARBON GUTTER AND SURFACING AS PART OF THE PMP PROJECT. SO TO CALCULATE THE RATE FOR SURFACING WE TAKE THE TOTAL SURFACING COST WHICH IS JUST OVER $3.7 MILLION DIVIDE THAT BY THE TOTAL AFFO OF ALL THE PARCELS THAT WERE SUBJECT TO AN ASSESSMENT FOR SURFACING WHICH CAME OUT TO JUST OVER 28,000 AND THAT GIVES US A 100% RATE. SO THAT WOULD BE THE RATE WE NEED TO ASSESS ADJACENT PROPERTIES SUBJECT TO THIS ASSESSMENT TO PAY FOR THE ENTIRE SURFACING IMPROVEMENT THROUGH ASSESSMENTS ALONE. AS BOB MENTIONED WE ASSESSED AT A 25% RATE AND A 50% RATE HERE IN BLOOMINGTON. SO THEN YOU TAKE THAT AND THAT'S HOW WE DETERMINED OUR 33, 42 AND 6683 FOR THE SERVICING. SO THE 25% RATE IS FOR SINGLE TWO AND THREE FAMILY HOMES. ALL OTHER PARCELS WERE ASSESSED THAT 50% RATE IF THERE ARE SUBJECT TO A SURFACING ASSESSMENT WE DO THE SAME MATH TO GET THE CARBON GUTTER RATES AGAIN. AS BOB MENTIONED WE HAD A LOT FEWER PARCELS THAT WERE SUBJECT TO A CURB AND GUTTER ASSESSMENT THIS YEAR. SO THAT'S WHY YOU SEE THAT NUMBER OF 3030 IS LESS THAN THE SURFACING TOTAL FLOW. SO AGAIN DIVIDING THAT BY THE TOTAL SUBURBAN GUTTER COST WE COME UP WITH 100% RATE AND FROM THERE WE DETERMINE OUR 25 AND 50% RATES. SO PAYMENT OPTIONS ARE IF THE ASSESSMENT ROLL IS APPROVED AND LEVIED BY COUNCIL TONIGHT I'LL OUR AFFECTED PROPERTY OWNERS WOULD HAVE UNTIL NOVEMBER 29TH TO PREPARE ANY AMOUNT OF THEIR ASSESSMENT FROM $100 UP TO THE TOTAL AMOUNT TO AVOID ANY INTEREST BEING APPLIED ANY BALANCE THAT'S REMAINING AFTER NOVEMBER 29TH IS AUTOMATICALLY ROLLED ON TO THE PROPERTY TAX STATEMENT AND THEN IT'S SPREAD OUT EVEY THE PRIIPAL SPREAD OUT EVENLY OVER THE NEXT TEN YEARS WITH A 5% INTEREST APPLIED ANNUALLY TO THE DECLINING PRINCIPAL. SO IF SOMEONE WAS NOT TO PAY PREPAY ANY PORTION OF THEIR ASSESSMENT IN THAT PREPAYMENT WINDOW THE FIRST TIME THEY WOULD SEE A BILL FOR THEIR ASSESSMENT WOULD BE WITH THEIR MAY 2024 PROPERTY TAX STATEMENT AND IF THEY WERE TO LET THAT GO OUT OVER THE ENTIRE LENGTH OF THE TEN YEAR ASSESSMENT THE LAST PAYMENT WOULD BE SHOWING WITH THEIR OCTOBER 23 PROPERTY TAX STATEMENT ONCE THE ASSESSMENT BALANCE IS ROLLED ON TO THE PROPERTY TAX STATEMENT, THE ONLY PAYMENT OPTIONS FOR THE PROPERTY OWNER AT THAT TIME WERE TO PAY THE AMOUNT DO WITH THEIR PROPERTY TAX BILL OR THEY CAN PAY OFF THE REMAINING ASSESSMENT IN FULL AT ANY POINT DURING THOSE TEN YEARS AND AVOID PAYING THE ADDITIONAL INTEREST. SO IF THEY WANT TO PAY OFF THE REMAINING BALANCE AFTER THREE YEAR THEY COULD DO SO AND AVOID THAT REMAINING INTEREST . UNFORTUNATELY THE COUNTY DOES NOT ACCEPT PARTIAL PAYMENTS AFTER IT ROLLED OUT OF THE PROPERTY TAX STATEMENT. SO IF YOU WANT TO PAY OFF A LITTLE MORE AHEAD OF TIME YOU CAN ONLY DO WHAT YOU DO WITH YOUR BILL OR THE TOTAL AMOUNT . WE DO HAVE A HARDSHIP DEFERRAL SO FOR THOSE THAT QUALIFY IT DOES DEFER THE ASSESSMENT FOR PROPERTY OWNERS. IT'S NOT A FORGIVENESS OF THE ASSESSMENT BUT DOES DEFER IT UNTIL THE OWNER NO LONGER QUALIFIES OR THE PROPERTY IS SOLD TO A NEW OWNER. IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT INTEREST STILL DOES STILL ACCRUE ON THAT DEFERRED ASSESSMENT. SO SOMETHING TO KEEP IN MIND IF SOMEONE'S LOOKING TO DEFER THEIR ASSESSMENT AND THERE ARE CRITERIA THAT MUST BE MET, IT MUST BE VALIDATED ANNUALLY IF YOU ARE TO CONTINUE TO DEFER THE ASSESSMENT IF YOU'RE STILL THE PROPERTY OWNER AND THERE'S ALSO AN APPEAL PROCESS THAT'S STATED IN STATE STATUTE 429 FOR PARCELS OR FOR PROPERTY OWNERS THAT FEEL OR DON'T WANT TO APPEAL THE ASSESSMENT OF LEVY THIS EVENING AND THAT IS DONE THROUGH DISTRICT COURT . SO AGAIN IN SUMMARY THIS IS THE RIGHT ACTION AT THE RIGHT TIME IT BELONGS THE PAVEMT LIFE. IT KEEPS OUR CITY'S INFRASTRUCTURE IN GOOD CONDITION. IT MAINTAINS OR INCREASES THE PROPERTY VALUES OF PARCELS HERE IN BLOOMINGTON AND HELPS REDUCE THE OVERALL COST OF MAINTENANCE OF OUR STREETS SYSTEM. SO AT THIS TIME I DO HAVE A SUGGESTED MOTION FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AND WE'RE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU COUNSEL. ANY QUESTIONS OF MR. HANSON OR MR. SIMONDS COUNCILMEMBER I THINK SO. I NOTICED THAT ON ONE OF THE SLIDES THE INTEREST PIECE AND YOU MENTIONED FIVE BUT I SAW 4.50 IS THAT IS THATS THA A STANDARD NUMBER HOW DOES THAT CALCULATE IT AND WHAT'S THAT? I'M ALSO CURIOUS ABOUT THE HARDSHIP INCOME. YOU KNOW, I THINK I SAW A NUMBER UNDER 50 $50,000. DOES THAT INCREASE OVER TIME? YOU KNOW, IS THAT INFLATIONARY? HOW IS THAT DETERMINED FOR THAT THEN I'VE GOT ONE LAST QUESTION THAT I ALWAYS ASK. I KNOW YOU GUYS ARE READY FOR SO SURE. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. COUNCILMEMBER, THIS IS YOUR FIRST QUESTION THE ASSESSMENT RATE INTEREST RATE EXCUSE ME IS SET BY OUR FINANCE DEPARTMENT. SO LAST YR WAS FOUR AND A HALF PERCENT. I THINK THE SLIDE BEFORE IT GOT UPDATED WAS STILL SHOWING LAST YEAR'S INTEREST RATE. SO THIS YEAR IS 5%. SO THAT'S WHAT'S BEEN NOTICED EVERY ONE AND THAT IS WHAT THE RATE WOULD BE IF THEY ARE TO HAVE ANY BALANCE ONTO THEIR PROPERTY TAX STATEMENT. I'M TO YOUR SECOND QUESTION AS FAR AS THE HARDSHIP DEFERRAL GOES, THOSE INCOME RATES ARE SET BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. THERE'S OUR HUD NUMBER SO THOSE GET UPDATED ANNUALLY. SO THOSE ARE JUST ADDED ANNUALLY. SO A HOLDER MUST CONTINUE TO MEET THOSE RATES AS WELL AS THE MEDIAN HOME VALUE IN AND THAT'S UPDATED ANNUALLY AS WELL. SO WE DO THAT AN ANNUAL BASIS AND IF SOMEONE WANTS TO CONTINUE T DEF THEIR ASSESSMENT THEY NEED TO FILE THE PAPERWORK AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY MEET THOSE INCOME AND ARE THE PROPERTY VALUE REQUIREMENTS TO BE ABLE TO QUALIFY. NOW THANKS FOR MENTIONING THAT I SHOULD SAY SEE VETERANS IN THERE TOO THAT'S A FOR PIECE AND THE QUESTION I ALWAYS ASK PRETTY MUCH EVERY TIME YOU KNOW THIS COMES UP YOU KNOW FOLKS LOOK AT THAT YOU KNOW THE HOW THEIR ROLE IS ASSESSED AND SOMETIMES THEY COME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT THEY WANT TO DELAY, YOU KNOW, HAVING THIS THIS DONE. AND I WANTED YOU TO JUST TO TALK ABOUT, YO KNOW, THAT THAT PROCESS AND WHAT THE IMPACT COULD BE IF YOU THEN DECIDE THAT YOU'RE GOING TO DELAY THAT SEGMENT THAT YOU'RE LIVE ON AND WHEN REALLY WHAT THE IMPACT IS NOT ONLY TO THE CITY BY DELAYING THAT BUT THE REST OF THE YOU KNOW, THE FOLKS THAT LIVE ON THAT PARTICULAR SEGMENT. I THINK I MAY LET MR. SIMMONS HANDLE THAT. I THINK THAT MAYOR COUNCILMEMBER LOEHMANN YEAH, THERE IT IS. THERE IS FROM TIME TO TIME FROM YEAR TO YEAR WHERE IT IS ASKED THAT WE DELAY A SEGMENT I MEAN IF WE WERE TO DELAY A SEGMENT THAT WOULD MOST LIKELY GET PUSHED A FEW YEARS DOWN THE ROAD BECAUSE WE HAVE OTHER SEGMENTS THAT ARE GOING TO BE COMI UP FOR RECONSTRUCTION AND IF IT DOES GET PUSHED A FEW YEARS DOWN THE ROAD THAT IN TURN IS JUST GOING TO INCREASE THE OVERALL COST OF THAT PROJECT AND THE COST OF THOSE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS BECAUSE AS WE KNOW FROM YEAR TO YEAR COSTS TYPICALLY DO TO INCREASE SO BUT IF A IF A STREET SEGMENT WERE TO GET DELAYED IT WOULD MOST LIKELY GET PUSHED A FEW YEARS DOWN THE ROAD BEFORE WE'D COME BACK TO THAT SEGMENT TO PURSUE IT ONCE AGAIN FOR FOR RECONSTRUCTION. IS THERE ANY IMPACT OR JUST THOUGHT OF SOMETHING? IS THERE ANY IMPACT TO THE YOU KNOW, THE NEGOTIATED RATE THAT YOU ALREADY HAVE WITH THE CONTRACTOR AT ALL? YOU HAVE TO THEN REDISTRIBUTE THAT IF TAKE A SEGMENT OUT, THE TAXPAYERS HAVE TO PAY A LITTLE BIT MORE BECAUSE YOU TOOK A SEGMENT OUT OF MR. MAYOR. COUNCILMEMBER IF YOU'RE REFERRING TO THE ASSESSMENTS WE CALCULATE THE ASSESSMENTS ESTIMATE ASSESSMENTS AND FINAL ASSESSMENT ARE CALCULATED BASED ON THE STREET SEGMENTS THAT ARE ORDERED. SO IF A STREET SEGMENT WOULD BE REMOVED FROM THE PROJECT THAT WOULD BE DONE THIS FALL FOR THE 2024 PROJECTS. SO WE KNOW THAT AHEAD OF TIME. SO THE RATES WOULD REFLECT THAT WHEN WE CALCULATE THAT FINAL ASSESSMENTS ON THOSE BILLS OUT SO BUT THE THE TOTAL AFFO DEPENDING ON THE PRICE OF THE PROJE AND THE TOTAL NUMBER OF PARCELS THAT ARE INCLUDED THAT CAN AFFECT THE RATE THE RATE PER FOOT PER YEAR FOR THE PROPERTY OWNERS. THANKS FOR THAT THAT THAT NUANCE I APPRECIATE THAT. COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO HOW MUCH OF THE HOW MUCH OF THE IT IT WELL, LET ME ASK IT THIS WAY. THIS LOOKS LIKE THIS IS SPECIFICALLY FOR A VERY SMALL NUMBER OF LOCATIONS AND SPECIFICALLY FOR THE CURVE IN GUTTER AND THE OVERLAY FOR THESE PARTICULAR ROADS AT THIS TIME. CORRECT. SO WE'RE NOT WE'RE NOT DRESSING THE OVERALL PAVEMENT MANAGEMENT PROGRAM ASSESSMENT AT THIS TIME, MR. MAYOR? COUNCILMEMBER THAT'S CORRECT. THE ASSESSMENTS THAT YOU'RE SEEING BEFORE THE ASSESSMENT ROLL CONTAINS ASSESSMENTS FOR THE TWO IMPROVEMENTS WHICH ARE THE SURFACING FOR THE RECONSTRUCT AND THEN THE CURB AND GUTTER. SO AS YOU GO INTO IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE'RE LIVING ASSESSMENTS FOR ACTUALLY ARE CONSIDERING LOVING ASSESSMENTS FOR THIS EVENING. CORRECT. IS THAT THE SUM PREMISE THAT THE SUM TOTAL OF PATRON PAVEMENT MANAGEMENT PROGRAM ASSESSMENTS WILL SEE THIS YEAR? THAT IS CORRECT FOR THE PMP PROGRAM FOR 2023. YES, THAT IS CORRECT. AY GREAT. WELL OTHER THAN MY GENERAL COMMENT THAT I WOULD LOVE US TO SLOW THIS PROGRAM DOWN SO WE COULD ACTUALLY USE MORE OF THAT MONEY FOR TRAILS. I'M GOOD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS. COUNCILMEMBER NELSON YEAH, THANK YOU, MAYOR. JUST A COUPLE QUICK ONES BUT FIRST I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT THE PRESENTATION IS IN THE PACKET FOR ANYONE TO FIND IF THEY LOOK FOR. BUT MY FIRST QUESTION IS IS THERE ANY WORK WITHIN THIS TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE THINGS WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT RECENTLY WITH REGARDS TO SPEED AND NEIGHBORHOODS OR ARE WE JUST NOT QUITE TO THAT POINT YET? MAYOR COUNCILMEMBER NELSON, ARE YOU REFERRING TO ON THIS SPECIFIC PROJECT THAT WE DID ANY SORT OF TRAFFIC CALMING? YES. TECHNIQUES OR ANYTHING OF THAT SORT? UM ON THIS ON THIS PROJECT THERE WERE THERE WERE TRYING TO RECALL THERE WERE NO SPECIFIC SEGMENTS THAT HAD ANY SPECIFIC TRAFFIC COMING. WE DID DO SOME PMP TRAIL MULTIMODAL WORK WITH THIS PROJECT. WE DID INSTALL A TRAIL SEGMENT ALONG THE NTHIDE OF 94TH STREET WEST OF FRANCE AVENUE ADJACENT TO SOCCER FIELDS BY AN ARMIDALE COMMUNITY COLLEGE THERE AND THEN ALSO A SIDEWALK CONNECTION AS WELL WE WILL BE INSTALLING HERE WITHIN THE NEXT WEEK ON THE NORTH SIDE OF BLOOMINGTON AVENUE AS YOU HEAD NORTH FROM 80 SECONDS THE NORTH TERMINUS BETWEEN THE NORTH TERMINUS AND 80TH STREET WE'LL BE INSTALLING A SIDEWALK CONNECTION THERE. THOSE ARE TWO OF THE MAIN ADDITIONS TO THIS PROJECT BEYOND A TYPICAL PUMP STREET RECONSTRUCTION FOR FOR THIS FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT. THANK YOU FOR THAT INFORMATION . SECOND QUESTION KIND OF TAKING ALONG WITH COUNCILMEMBER LOMAN ON THE HARDSHIP DEFERRAL, DO WE HAVE ANY DISCRETION OVER THE RATE WE CHARGE TO THOSE PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY SEEM TO BE PEOPLE THAT ARE ON LOW FIXED INCOMES THAT YOU KNOW, PROBABLY STRUGGLE TO HAVE THIS BIG FINANCIAL BURDEN PUT ON THEM AT ONE TIME AS OPPOSED TO HAVING IT SPREAD OUT. DO WE HAVE ANY DISCRETION ON THAT AMOUNT? MR. MAYOR COUNCILMEMBER ARE YOU REFERRING TO THE INTEREST RATE APPLIED OR JUST THE RATE THAT WE UTILIZE TIMES THE AFFO TO GENERATE TOHE INTEREST RATE. YEAH I WOULD HAVE TO DEFER TO OUR FINANCE ON THAT BUT IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THAT RATE IS UNIFORM THROUGHOUT ALL PARCELS. THAT'S OUR JUNE ASSESSMENT FOR THAT YEAR. I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAVE MUCH DISCRETION ON THAT. MR. MAYOR COUNCILMEMBER NELSON. MR. HANSEN IS CORRECT. WE'VE SPENT A LOT OF TIME WITH OUR BOND ATTORNEYS TRYING TO SKIN THAT CAT 12 DIFFERENT WAYS AND WE HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO FIND ONE SO WE HAVE TO TREAT ALL PARCELS THE SAME. SO FOR BOTH THE AFFO AND THE INTEREST RE ALL OF THOSE HAVE TO BE THE SAME FOR THE ENTIRE ASSESSMENT ROLE. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THAT INFORMATION. AND THEN I THINK I ASKED THIS LAST YEAR BUT YOU KNOW, I'M GETTING OLD SO MY MEMORY FADES . THE PLAN FOR THE TRAIL IS YOU KNOW, DOESN'T SEEM TO FOLLOW EXACTLY THE WAY YOU DO THE MAINTENANCE WITH THE SEAL CALLED THE SEAL CODE THE MILLEN OVERLAY AND THAT'S JUST IT CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG BUT BASED ON THEIR SIZE AND THEIR SCALE THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT TRAILS THE SAME WAY YOU'RE TRYING TO MINIMIZE THE LONG TERM COST BECAUSE IT'S SOMETHING WE'VE TALKED ABOUT. WE HAVE A LOT OF TRAILS TT ARE N IN GREAT SHAPE THAT WE NEED TO MAINTAIN AND A I JUST WANT THERE ISN'T A BETTER WAY OF MAINTAINING THOSE THAT WE HAVE NOT GIVEN YOU THE SUPPORT TO DO. IS THAT ACCURATE? MAYOR COUNCILMEMBER NELSON YES, THAT'S ACCURATE WITH WITH THE TRAILS BEING A MUCH THINNER PAVEMENT AND SMALLER AREA THOSE CRACK SEALS OR THE FOG SEALS AND THE SEAL COATS AND THINGS OF THAT SORT WHICH WE ARE DOING ARE THE BEST WAYS TO BE MAINTAINING THOSE THOSE SEGMENTS. IF IF IT'S BEYOND THAT THEN IT GETS TO THE POINT OF JUST REMOVING AND REPLACING WHICH IS ANOTHER TECHNIQUE THAT WE DO AS WELL. SO YOU KNOW THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER THE FINAL QUESTION THAT I HAVE THE THE SEAL COATING THAT YOU DID WITH THE SOUTH METRO JOINT POWERS AGREEMENT I SUCCESSFUL WOULD YOU CONSIDER IT A GOOD THING OR HOW DID IT TURN OUT? FROM WHAT I'VE HEARD, YES, IT'S IT IT SEEMS LIKE IT WAS SUCCESSFUL AND ALL THE THE CREW THAT WAS IN HERE WAS EFFICIENT. THEY GOT THINGS DONE IN A VERY, VERY QUICK MANNER AND FROM WHAT I'VE HEARD FROM OUR MAINTENANCE FOLKS THAT IT WAS SUCCESSFUL SO I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING OTHERWISE. OKAY. AND IT'S COST SAVINGS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT OR AND TOTAL COST SAVINGSHAT'M NOT THAT I'M NOT 100% SURE I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE HEARD ANYTHING JULIE, BUT I, I HAVEN'T HEARD ANY CURIOUS I'M NOT LOOKING FOR FOR DOWN TO THE PENNY DETAILS JUST WONDERING IF THERE WAS ANY COST SAVINGS INVOLVED IN GENERAL, MR. MAYOR THE COSTS WERE HELD EQUIVALENT TO WHAT IT HAD BEEN IN THE PAST. THE ISSUE HAD BEEN WE COULD NO LONGER GET A SUPPLIER TO SUPPLY US AT AN ECONOMICAL RATE INDEPENDENTLY. SO I DON'T KNOW THAT WE SAW A HUGE COST SAVINGS BUT WE DIDN'T SEE A GIANT GTRY INCREASE. SO TO US IT'S A WASH EVEN THOUGH WE DIDN'T IT'S FAIR GO DOWN. IT SOUNDS GOOD. THANK YOU. ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, COUNSEL? IF NOT, LET'S OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS IF WE COULD. THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN. DON'T FAR AND A 4.1 IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND I WILL OPEN IT NOW THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION APPROVING THE ASSESSMENT ROLE FOR 2020 3-1 ANYONE IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS WISHING TO SPEAK TO ITEM 4.1 ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA IS THERE ON THE PHONE. THANK YOU MR. MAYOR. WE HAVE TWO CALLERS ONE PREFIX 207747 YOU ARE NOW ABLE TO SPEAK TO PERSONS YES THIS THE OPPORTUNITY TO ASK WHY WE TOLERATE JEWS SECOND BABY PIMA IT'S ALL THROUGH THE TALMUD LIKE HASIDIC JEWS WHEN THEY DO CIRCUMCISION THEY ON THE BABIES. TINA I WAS WONDERING WHY WE TOLERATE I I'M SORRY. I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. I THINK WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. SABLE. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THERE IS MR. MAYOR COLLAR WITH THE PREFIX 443210 OH HOW Y'ALL DOING TONIGHT? PRETTY WELL. HOW ARE YOU? COULD YOU PLEASE IDENTIFY YOURSELF? YES MY NAME IS DARNELL JACKSON AND I'M GLAD TO BE HERE. I FEEL LIKE I'VE BEEN BORED TO DEATH. I JUST WANTED TO SAY I DID 911 ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. LOOKING AT THE ROSTER OF ATTENDEES, I HAVE NO MORE CALLERS ON THE LINE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. LAST CALL FOR ANYBODY HERE IN THE CHAMBERS WISHING TO SPEAK COUNCIL NO ONE COMING FORWARD IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBER NO ONE SPEAKING ANYTHING WE WANT TO HEAR ON THE PHONE TONIGHT TO LOOK FOR A MOTION CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THAT AND 4.1 SO MOVED SLIGHTLY MOTION IN THE SECOND TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND THEN 4.1 NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSE THE MOTION CARRIES IS SEVEN ZERO CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING COUNCIL ANY FINAL QUESTIONS OR CLARIFICATIONS NEEDED FOR ITEM 4.1? IF NOT I WOULD LOOK FOR ACTION VERY. HAPPY TO MAKE THAT MOTION MOTIONS REMEMBER LOWMAN BROWN MOVED TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION APPROVING ASSESSMENT RULES FOR 2023 ONE FOR THE 23 PEAK RECONSTRUCTION PROJECTS STREET REFERENCE SEGMENTS 1-5 TEN DASH 1214 DASH 20 MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER MARTIN TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION APPROVING THE ASSESSMENT ROLE FOR 2020 3-1 AND THE STREET REFERENCE SEGMEN AS NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I I OPPOSED THE MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO. THANK YOU GENTLEMEN APPRECIATE YOUR HELP THIS EVENING. MOVING ON ITEM FIVE ORGANIZATIONAL BUSINESS AND ITEM 5.1 IS A PRESENTATION ON HATCH BLOOMINGTON WHICH AS I SAID, I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO HEARING MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THIS. I GOT TEASED SOME INFORMATION LAST WEEK AND I'M LOOKING TO HEAR MORE WE HAVE WITH US TONIGHT CURRENTLY HENDERSON, OUR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR AND MR. JONATHAN WAYNE HAGAN WHO IS THE PRESIDENT CEO AND ALL KNOWING GURU FROM THE MINNESOTA REGIONAL OR THE MINNEAPOLIS REGIONAL CHAMBER OF COMMERCE. GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME. GOOD EVENING MAYOR COUNCIL. SO THANK YOU MAYOR CITY COUNCIL. WE'RE GOING TO START TO TALK ABOUT HATCH BLOOMINGTON WHICH IS A PROGRAM THAT WE HOPE WE KNOW WILL HAVE GREAT, GREAT RESULTS. SO I'M GOING TO INTRODUCE JONATHAN WHO NEEDS NO INTRODUCTION BUT I THAT FOR PEOPLE WHO AREN'T FAMILIAR WITH HIM OR PEOPLE WHO ARE VIEWING FROM HOME PERHAPS HE CAN GIVE US A BRIEF INTRODUCTION ABOUT HIMSELF AND THE CHAMBER SO YEAH AGAIN GOOD EVENING OUR MAYOR AND COUNCIL THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME THIS EVENING. I'M SUPER EXCITED TO BE HERE TO SHARE WITH YOU AN EXCITING NEW OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON AND TO SHARE A LITTLE OF BACKGROUND AND INFORMATION ON THE CHAMBER FOR ABOUT 65 YEARS THE BLOOMINGTON CHAMBER NOW PART OF THE MINNEAPOLIS REGIONAL CHAMBER HAS BEEN SERVING THIS COMMUNITY IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE CONSISTENTLY HERE IS HOW ARE WE SERVING THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON? IT'S SOMETHING THAT IN MY SEVEN YEARS WITH THE ORGANIZATION HAS BECOM AN EVEN STRONGER KIND OF SOUNDING BLACK IN THIS COMMUNITY. AND AS THE INDUSTRY HAS CHANGED, AS THE ECONOMY HAS CHANGED, WE'VE BEEN LOOKING FOR NEW AND BETTER AND DIFFERENT WAYS TO PARTNER TOGETHER WITH THE CITY AND THE COMMUNITY IF. YOU'RE TRACKING KIND OF CIVIC ENGAGEMENT ACROSS THE COUNTRY. OUR PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS HAVE BEEN AND CONTINUE TO BE KIND OF ALL THE RAGE WITH REGARDS TO HOW WE'RE REALLY GOING TO MOVE THE DIAL FORWARD HATCH BLOOMINGTON IS AN EXAMPLE OF THAT. IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR TO COME TOGETHER WITH THE CITY AND THE PRIVATEECTO IN THE COMMUNITY TO DO SOME REALLY GOOD EXCITING AND INNOVATIVE WORK AND SOMETHING THAT I THINK ALL OF THE NEIGHBORING COMMUNITIES ARE GOING TO HAVE SOME SERIOUS FOMO ABOUT AND YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR ABOUT THAT IN JUST A MOMENT. SO WE ARE FORTUNATE. I THINK THE NEXT SLIDE WALKS YOU THROUGH. WE DO HAVE A DEEPLY COMMITTED LOCAL ADVISORY BOARD ABOUT 20 MEMBERS INCLUSIVE OF COUNCILMEMBER D'ALESSANDRO, THE CHIEF, OTHERS WHO ARE SURVEYING THE BLOOMINGTON CHAMBER AND THE MINNEAPOLIS REGIONAL CHAMBER I MEAN REALLY KIND OF THE EAR TO EAR TO THE GROUND EVERY SINGLE DAY IN THIS COMMUNITY MAKING SURE THAT WE UNDERSTAND WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE AND BECAUSE WE RECOGNIZE THAT IN THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON AS ONE OF THE CRITICAL PARTS OF OUR ECONOMY IN THIS REGION HAS SOME DIFFERENT NEEDS AND HAS SOME DIFFERENT CONNECTIVITY. THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE SEE IN ALL OF THE CITIES THAT WE SERVE ACROSS THE REGION BLOOMING TEN IS DIFFERENT WITH REGARDS TO HOW WE THINK ABOUT THE ROLE THEY PLAY IN THIS REGIONAL ECONOMY. SO I'M GOING TO PAUSE THERE AND CARLA AND MY BEST BEHAVIOR YOU'RE DOING. SHE WOULD NOT LET ME TESTIFY AT THE PUBC HEARING. I I WANTED TO NOT WANT TO HEAR FROM HIM AND TO TALK ABOUT PERMEABLE PAVEMENT IS GOING TO BE GREAT. SO WHAT IS HATCH BLOOMINGTON YOU'LL RECALL I THINK COUNCILMEMBER MARTIN WELL WHEN WE WERE DOING THE SMALL BUSINESS ADVISORY COMMITTEE THAT THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT WE NEEDED SOME KIND OF SHARK TANK EVENT TO KIND OF GET THE ENTREPRENEURSHIP COMMUNITY EXCITED ABOUT OUR SMALL BUSINESS CENTER. AND SO WE STARTED THINKING ABOUT YOU'LL SEE ANOTHER SLIDE BECAUSE THIS KIND OF TAKES OFF THE VISION THAT WAS HELD IN DETROIT OVER TEN YEARS AGO BECAUSE THEY HAVE A PROGRAM CALLED HATCH DETROIT. BUT THIS IS A RETAIL PITCH COMPETITION WHERE WRE GOING TO PROVIDE $100,000 TO THE WINNER IN FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE AND IT'S LIKE A LOT OF EXCITEMENT THESE ENTREPRENEURS WILL GET, YOU KNOW, WELL THERE'S GOING TO BE A VOTING COMPONENT WHICH WILL GET TO ONE OF THE MAIN THINGS WE WANT TO STRESS IS THAT THIS WILL BE FOR STOREFRONT BRICK AND MORTAR BUSINESSES. AND SO AS WE TALK ABOUT LIKE SOME OF OUR COMMERCIAL QUARTER NODES, WE'RE LOOKING TO BOOST THE INVESTMENT IN CITY OF BLOOMINGTON. AND SO WE ALSO WANT OUR SMALL BUSINESS COMMUNITY TO REFLECT WHAT OUR LOCAL MARKET DEMANDS ARE AND SO THAT'S WHY THE COMMUNITY BUY IN AND VOTING IS SUCH A KEY PART OF THIS. SO A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHY A PITCH COMPETITION AGAIN INSPIRED BY DETROIT THEY ACTUALLY TRAIN HAS BEEN DOING THIS FOR OVER A DECADE THEY HAVE 50 HATCH ALUI $30 MILLION IN INVESTMENT THROUGHOUT THE CITY. THEY EMPLOY MORE THAN 500 PEOPLE. IT BECAME A MOVEMENT IN DETROIT AND YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE LOCAL ENTREPRENEURS THAT GET REALLY EXCITED AND SO WE JUST WANT TO BORROW SOME OF THAT EXCITEMENT AND BRING IT HERE AS WE GEAR UP FOR OUR SMALL BUSINESS CENTER. AND SO WHAT WILL THE COMPETITION LOOK LIKE AGAIN? WE WANT BRICK AND MORTAR BUSINESSES, APPLICANTS APPLY AT ANY STAGE FROM ID A DEAL TO EXPANSION WE'RE LOOKI FOR AN EMPHASIS ON SUSTAINABILITY. EQUITY INCLUDES ACTIVITY AND CREATIVITY WILL ALSO WORK WITH THE APPLICANTS AND BUSINESS STRATEGY BUDGET AND MARKETING DEVELOPMENT. THEY'LL BE THREE JUDGING ROUNDS OF THE APPLICANTS. THE LAST TWO ROUNDS WILL INCLUDE THE COMMUNITY VOTE YOU BE BY TEXT VOTE BY TECH SOFTWARE AND SO WE CAME UP WITH A SEVEN JUDGE PANEL REPRESENTATIVE OF THE ECONOMIC BUSINESS COMMUNITY. WE FELT THREE SELECTED FROM THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON AND I VE HAD CONVERSIONS WITH OUR COED LIAISON EMILY LARSON ABOUT USING BASICALLY THIS KIND OF THE SAME PROCESS WE DO FOR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS WHERE WE'LL PUT A CALL OUT TO THE COMMUNITY AND ASK PEOPLE IF THEY'RE INTERESTED TO BE A PART OF THIS ARE THREE SELECTED BY THE REGIONAL CHAMBER AND THEN ONE SELECTED BY THE CITY KEPT MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL. HOPEFULLY SOMEBODY FROM THIS HONORABLE HONORABLE BODY WILL SERVE ON THIS AND SO YEAH SO AND THEN WHEN WE GET TO THE TOP TEN IN THE TOP THREE WE WILL OPEN IT UP TO THE VOTE BY TECH SOFTWARE AND THE WINNER WILL RECEIVE $100,000 IN FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE. IT CAN BE FOR RENT OR BUILD OUT OR EQUIPMENT OR HIRING STAFF. WE PUT A DRAFT TIMELINE IN HERE. WE WANT TO KICK IT OFF IN JANUARY WILL HOLD INFORMATIONAL SESSIONS THAT WILL OPEN UP THE PORTAL. THE PITCHING ROUND WILL BE INVITE ONLY THAT WILL BE DETERMINED BY THE SEVEN JUDGES THAT WILL HAVE US. SO MY FEELING AROUND AND THEN THE TOP TEN ROUND PITCHES COMMUNITY VOTING BEGINS IN MAY AND ALL THESE DATES ARE FLEXIBLE. WE CAN YOU KNOW WE'RE NOT MARRIED TO ANY OF THEM. WE CAN DEFINITELY CHANGE THEM IF GENDER IF SCHEDULES HAVE CONFLICT THEN AT THE END OF THE MAY WE WILL HAVE OUR THREE FINALISTS ANNOUNCED AND THEN WE'LL DO THE FINAL ROUND VOTING ENDS AND HOPEFULLY SOMETIME IN MID JUNE WE WILL ANNOUNCE THE WINNER AND WHY SHOULD WE DO THIS? WELL, A COUPLE OF REASONS WE STTED TO TALK ABOUT REALLY WANTING THE ENTREPRENEURSHIP COMMUNITY TO KNOW THAT THE SAME BLOOMINGTON WANTS TO SUPPORT YOU WANT TO SUPPORT SMALL BUSINESSES AND THIS DEFINITELY DOES THAT. IT ALSO WILL POSITION US AS AN ATTRACTIVE LOCATION THAT SENDS SUCH A MESSAGE. I DON'T BELIEVE THERE'S ANYTHING LIKE IT IN THE REGION AND ALSO IT WILL START TO BUILD A PIPELINE OF UP AND COMING ENTREPRENEURS BECAUSE YOU KNOW, JUST BECAUSE AN ENTREPRENEUR DOESN'T GET THAT YOU KNOW, THE TOP VOTE DOESN'T MEAN THAT THEY HAVEN'T HAD POSURE, THEY HAVEN'T BEEN ENGAGED. THEY DON'T THEY'LL RECEIVE, YOU KNOW, ALL THE KIND OF SUPPORT THROUGH THE CHAMBER AS WELL AS HENNEPIN COUNTY AND THAT ALSO WILL STRENGTHEN OUR RELATIONSHIP. BLOOMINGTON THE CHAMBER I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING WOODBURY IS GOING TO BE PASSED. IT'S AND I HAVE TO GIVE A LOT OF CREDIT TO OUR LEGAL TEAM KEVIN TASKER AND MUSLIM AND OUTSIDE HELPED US BECAUSE WE FOUND A STATUE TT WE CAN CONTRIBUTE $50,000 TO THE CHAMBER THE CHAMBER WILL CONTRIBUTE $50,000. THEY WILL MAINTAIN THE FIDUCIARY OVERSIGHT OF TH FUNDS, ADMINISTER THE PROGRAM BUT WE WILL BE WORKING ALL IN TANDEM AND GETTING THIS THING LAUNCHED. I MIGHT JUST ADD QUICKLY WE DON'T MAKE INVESTMENTS LIKE THIS. I MEAN WHEN YOU'RE AND TEAM CAME TO US YOU KNOW A GREAT CREDIT TO KNOW CITY MANAGER FOR BRINGING IT TO CARLA AND THAT PARTNERSHIP AND RELATIONSHIP MATTERS AND WHEN WE MET AT CIVIC PLAZA BOY JUST A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO TO TALK ABOUT THIS THEY HAD ME AT HELLO AND IT WASN'T BECAUSE OF THE PROGRAM AND THE PROGRAM IS AMAZING. I GOT MORE EXCITED AND GET MORE EXCITED EVERY TIME WE TALK ABOUT IT BUT IT'S ABOUT THE PARTNERSHIP AND THE RELATIONSHIP AND THE THE INNOVATION KIND OF ECOSYSTEM THAT EXISTS HERE IN BLOOMINGTON AND WE WANT TO DOUBLE DOWN ON IT. SO I THINK THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SEEING HERE. I'M SUPER JAZZED TO LAUNCH THIS THING AND THAT'S THE THAT'S WE DIDN'T WT TO GO TOO DEEP THOUGH. SEAN LUNDY IS HERE. HE'S BEEN WORKING TIRELESSLY ON THIS PROGRAM AS WELL AS CHRISTINE LEVINSON FROM YOUR STAFF CHIEF OF STAFF FROM THE MINNEAPOLIS CHAMBER. THEY'VE IN LOTS OF CONVERSATION. THEY'VE BEEN DOING ALL OF THE WORK. LET'S LIKE ON THE RECORD LET'S BE HONEST ABOUT HOW THIS HAPPENS. YES. SO ANY QUESTIONS COMMENT MR. FERRUCCI THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS I JUST WANT TO EMPHASIZE THE LAST POINT THAT JONATHAN MADE NOT ABOUT WOODBURY I LOVE WOODBURY BUT MORE ABOUT THE PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CHAMBER. YET MORE AND MORE CHAMBER IS A CRUCIAL PARTNER IN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND THAT'S WHAT THIS IS. THIS IS AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INITIATIVE AND WE'RE REALLY GRATEFUL THAT THE CHAMBER IS WILLING TO STEP UP AND WORK WITH US ON THIS BECAUSE IT'S PART OF YOUR STRATEGIC PLAN TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO GROW SMALL BUSINESS IN THIS COMMUNITY WHETHER IT'S A NEW STARTUP OR AN EXPANSION AND THAT WE'RE PROVIDING MORE BUSINESS OPPORTUNITIES FOR MAYBE UNDERREPRESENTED OR MARGINALIZED COMMUNITIES. AND THIS HOPEFULLY WE'LL DO ALL OF THAT AND I THINK IT'S REALLY A GREAT THING THAT OUR LOCAL CHAMBER SEES THE VALUE IN DOING THAT. I COULDN'T AGREE MORE COUNCIL QUESTIONS ON THIS. COUNCILMEMBER MERTEN AND THEN COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO. COUNCILMEMBER THANK YOU SO MUCH. THERE IS SO MUCH THAT I LOVE ABOUT THIS IDEA AND ESPECIALLY TO SEE IT GO FROM SOME KIND OF REAL LOOSEY GOOSEY WITH DISCUSSIONS IN THE BRAINSTORMING PHASE FOR THE SMALL BUSINESS CENTER TO NOW THIS FASCINATING FLESHED OUT PARTNERSHIP THAT I THINK COULD REALLY BE A MODEL FOR A LOT OF CHAMBERS AROUND THE COUNTRY AND THE LEADERSHIPHAT YOU TEAM ISHOW TO JUMP IN ON THIS I APPRECIATE HEY I WONDER WITH THE ROUNDS OF COMMUNITY VOTING I THAT PEOPLE WILL BE ABLE TO ENGAGE WITH THIS OVER TIME AND BUILD EXCITEMENT AND ROOT FOR THEIR FAVORITES. I WONDER ESPECIALLY SINCE WE'RE TARGETING AS THE MAYOR MENTIONED, MAYBE MARGINALIZED OR UNDERREPRESENTED COMMUNITIES WHAT WE'RE DOING TO ENSURE THAT THE WINNERS AREN'T NECESSARILY THE FOLKS THAT CAN JUST RALLY THE LARGEST ONLINE PRESENCE FOR THE VOTE IS THAT TAKING CARE OF THROUGH THE APPLICATION PROCESS OR YEAH SEAN HAS YOU KNOW HE'S MILITARY SO BOTTOM LINE UP FRONT SO HE'S DONE A LOT OF WORK ON THAT YEAH SURE . WELL, GOOD EVENING MR. MAYOR. CITY COUNCIL. SO I'VE HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS WITH OTHER PITCH COMPETITIONS ACROSS THE STATE OF MINNESOTA BUT ALSO THE NATION ABOUT THIS REDUCING BARRIERS TO INEQUALITY IS ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS THE FOCUS AREAS THAT WE HAVE FOR PROGRAM AND ONE OF THE FIRST SLIDES WE TALKED ABOUT HOW APPLICANTS CAN BE ANYWHERE FROM THE IDEATION STAGE TO THE EXPANSION STAGE WE VIEW THAT AS A A METHOD TO REDUCE BARRIERS TO ENTRY. TO YOUR POINT SPECIFICALLY ABOUT AMASSING THE BIGGEST FOLLOWING TO GET OUT THE VOTE, THERE'S A COUPLE DIFFERENT MODELS WE CAN WE CAN FOLLOW FOR THE TOP TEN AND TOP THREE VOTING ROUNDS WE HAVEN'T FLESHED OUT THE DETAILS ON THAT. A CLASSIC EXAMPLE IS USING THE AUDITOR ROOM AND HAVING GENUINE OUR YOU KNOW, MORE AND MORE STANDARD LIKE PITCH COMPETITIONS TO TAKE PLACE. BUT WHAT HAS DETIT HAS DON WHICH IS FAR MORE INTERESTING IS THEY OPEN UP A FORUM AND THE APPLICANTS CAN SET UP BOOTHS WITH THEIR MERCHANDISE THEIR FOOD WHATEVER IT IS THAT THE SERVICE OR PRODUCT IS FOR THEIR BUSINESS AND THE COMMUNITY CAN COME IN AND SEE THAT. SO IT REALLY DOES. APPLICANTS THAT CAN RALLY THE MOST SUPPORT ONLINE DO END UP FARING A LOT BETTER. THE VOTE BY TEXT SOFTWARE DOES NOT LIMIT BASED ON AREA CODE SO IF PEOPLE HAVE FAMILY AND PROFESSIONAL NETWORKS OUTSIDE THE CITY THOSE PEOPLE CAN VOTE. THAT'S HOW THE SYSTEM IS DESIGNED BUT WE WANT TO ENCOURAGE AND WE WILL BE DOING A A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF PR LEADING UP TO THAT TO GET AS MANY PEOPLE INTERESTED IN AND INVESTED IN THIS PROGRAM AS WE CAN SO THAT THERE IS THE BIGGEST, MOST DIVERSE SET OF VOTERS. COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO GOOD EVENING. NICE TO SEE YOU. GOOD TO SEE Y. I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS. FIRST OFF, YOU YOU MENTIONED THAT THIS IS LARGELY FOR LIKE RETAIL OR STOREFRONT AREAS. DO YOU HAVE AREAS OF THE CITY THAT YOU'RE TARGETING FOR SUPPORT ING YOU KNOW, ASSUMING FOR EXAMPLE THAT THEY'RE NOT ALL IN IDEATION STAGE AND SOME OF THEM MIGHT BE AGONIZING OVER THE PROCESS OF ACTUALLY OPENING IT AT THE TIME THEY COME TO YOU KNOW, GET THROUGH HERE. DO WE HAVE PARTICULAR TARGETED AREAS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT TO EITHER WORK WITH OUR MMERAL DEVELOPMENT PARTNERS? I DIDN'T SEE ANY OF THEM IN PARTICULAR NECESSARILY ON THE LIST BUT THEY YOU KNOW, IF WE IF WE HAD THE FOLKS FROM CROUSER FROM KENDALL OR OTHER PEOPLE ENGAGED AND HAD HAVE THEM STAKING OUT, YOU KNOW, SPACES FOR THESE PEOPLE, WOULD THAT BE SOMETHING WE COULD INCORPORATE THIS EITHER IN-KIND OR AS PART OF LIKE YOU KNOW, THE PROMISE OF THE DOLLARS OR WHATEVER? ARE WE THINKING ABOUT THAT AT ALL? YES, MR. MAYOR? COUNCILMEMBER D'ALESSANDRO ABSOLUTELY. AS A MATTER OF FACT, HOLLY MESSICK, OUR PORT AUTHORITY ADMINISTRATOR IS HOSTING A BROKER KIND OF ROUNDTABLE ON DECEMBER 1ST. AND SO WE WILL BE TALKING TO THE BROKER COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE BROKER COMMUNITY ABOUT THIS PROGRAM AND OKAY. YES YEAH GREAT. AND THEN THE OTHER PIECE OF THAT WHICH I THINK YOU KNOW I KNOW THE MISS HENDERSON YOU AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE WE GET IN OUR OWN WAY A LOT AS IT RELATES TO THESE TYPES OF BUSINESSES. I KNOW THREE OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD THAT ARE NOW SOMEWHERE ELSE OTHER THAN IN BLOOMINGTON BECAUSE OF SOME ONE OR ANOTHER OF THE THINGS THAT THEY RAN INTO. WHAT CAN WE BE DOING AND DO YOU HAVE A PLAN TO BRING TO U AORK PLAN, YOU KNOW, OVER AND ABOVE THIS OR IN SUPPORT OF THIS IN ORDER TO, YOU KNOW, ENSURE THE SMOOTH LAUNCHING OF THIS, IF YOU WILL, FOR FOR SOME STREAMLINING OF OUR CODE . AND I KNOW I WOULD ADVOCATE THAT IF THAT WAS HAPPENING. SO I WANT TO JUST THROW IT OUT THERE IF YOU'RE PLANNING TO DO THAT SOMETIME BEFORE THIS GETS LAUNCHED AND IF SO, IF YOU COULD PROVIDE ANY AT LEAST HIGH LEVEL DETAILS ON TT. SURE. MR. MAYOR, COUNCIL EMBE ALESSARO ABSOLUTELY. WE KEEP THE LIST OF THE CONCERNS MEAN WE HEAR THEM IN THEIR FREQUENT I KNOW WE HAVE HAD SEVERAL CONVERSATIONS ABOUT SOME OF THE BARRIERS. SOME OF IT IS NOT EVEN CODE . SOME OF IT'S JUST POLICY. AND SO I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE ADDITIONAL CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT THAT MEANS AND HOW IT DOES AFFECT SOME OF OUR SMALL BUSINESSES PARTICULARLY WHEN THEY'RE TRYING TO GET THE DOORS OPEN. SO YES WE WILL BE BRINGING IN SOME WE WILL BE HAVING ADDITIONAL CONVERSATIONS AND BRINGING SOMETHING FORWARD FOR CONSIDERATION. GREAT. I WOULD TOTALLY ENCOURAGE AND I WOULD CERTAINLY BE AN ADVOCATE FOR HELPING OUT HOWEVER POSSIBLE ONHAT FRONT TO HELP YOU KNOW, TO EITHER RALLY PEOPLE AROUND TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS OR TO BRING SOMETHING FORWARD HERE TO HAVE THE COUNCIL CONSIDER IT. THE LAST THOUGHT I HAD ON THAT WAS RELATED TO THAT. I KNOW IT'S THE IT'S $50,000 FROM THE CITY OF BLMINGTON WOULD WOULD WOULD THAT BE INCLUSIVE? WOULD THAT 50,000 BE INCLUSIVE OF WAIVING FEES THAT THEY NORMALLY HAVE TO PAY LIKE BUILDING PERMIT FEES AND THINGS LIKE THAT OR ARE THEY GOING TO HAVE TO PAY THOSE OUT OF THAT $50,000? THAT'S A PEACEMAKER COUNCIL AND I DON'T THINK YOU KNOW, KIND OF LIKE KIND OF MARIN COUNCIL MEMBERS. COUNCILMEMBER D'ALESSANDRO I DON'T BELIEVE AT THIS POINT THAT WE'RE PRESCRIPTIVE ABOUT HOW THE FUNDS ARE USED AND JUST TO BE CLEAR WE WILL BE CONTRIBUTING THE FUNDS TO THE CHAMBER AND THE CHAMBER WILL BE THE ORGANIZATION THAT IS ALLOCATING THE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS. SO I THINK AS WE FINE TUNE THE DETAILS ON THIS PROGRAM, WE'LL BE LOOKING AT SOME OF THOSE DETAILS JUST TO SEE IF THERE IS SOME SPECIFICITY TTE WANT TO PUT AROUND IT. BUT MORE THAN ANYTHING IT'S A RECOGNITION THAT STARTING UP A SMALL BUSINESS OR GROWING A SMALL BUSINESS IS HARD AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS PROVIDE THE SEED MONEY IN THE CAPITAL THAT'S NECESSARY TO DO IT. YEAH, I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH COUNCILMEMBER KERNAN AND COUNCILMEMBER MOON AND COUNCILMEMBER NELSON AND THEN COUNCILMEMBER LOGAN. THANK YOU MAYOR. SO I WANT TO ECHO MY EXCITEMENT AND OTHERS HAVE TALKED ABOUT THEIRS. I THINK THIS IS REALLY, REALLY INTERESTING AND I THINK THAT THE SMALL BUSINESS COMMUNITY IN BLOOMINGTON WILL BE THRILLED TO ENGAGE AND I THINK RESIDENTS WILL HAVE A LOT OF FUN WITH IT TOO. SO I JUST WANTED TO SEE. WELL, QUICK QUESTION I GUESS ARE WE KIND OF ARE WE IMPLEMENTING THIS AS A PILOT AND THEN JUST GOING TO SEE HOW IT GOES WITH POTENTIAL TO DO IN FUTURE YEARS OR ARE YOU GUYS HAVING CONVERSATIONS AROUND MAKING THIS A YEARLY KIND OF MORE LONG TERM OPPORTUNITY FOR SMALL BUSINESSES IN BLOOMINGTON, MR. MAYOR. COUNCILMEMBER CARTER. THIS YEAR WILL THE FIRST YEAR WILL BE A PILOT. WE JUST THIE KIND OF VE TO WALK BEFORE WE RUN BUT THE EXPECTATION IS LIKE WE WANT TO BE, YOU KNOW, A DECADE IN TEN YEARS TALKING ABOUT THE NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES AND SMALL BUSINESSES THAT HAVE POPPED UP AS A RESULT OF THIS PROGRAM. SO IT IS OUR INTENT TO MAKE IT LONGER AND POTENTIALLY GROWING THE NUMBER OF YEAH. GRANT RECIPIENTS THROUGH THE PROGRAM. YES, THAT'S WE'VE HAD LOTS OF BRAINSTORMING. WE GET VERY EXCITED. OH THAT'S GREAT. THAT'S VERY EXCITING. I DO WANT TO ECHO COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO AS POINTS AROUND SOME OF THE BARRIERS THAT SMALL BUSINESSES HAVE YOU KNOW,OLDS ABOUT AND WE'VE HEARD IT FROM MORE THAN ONE AROUND DOING BUSINESS IN BLOOMINGTON AND SO IF WE CAN FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN REMOVE SOME OF THOSE BARRIERS IT WOULD BE GREAT. AND THEN I REALLY LIKE THE IDEA OF YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND THAT 100,000 WILL GO TO THE CHAMBER AND US WILL ADMINISTER IT BUT IF THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE COULD DO JUST KIND OF SWEETEN THE DEAL EVEN MORE TO LOOK AT SOME OF THOSE FEES MAYBE FOR THOSE THE WINNER SPECIFICALLY SO THAT IT DOESN'T CUT INTO THAT 100,000. I THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE REALLY COOL. SO THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCILMEMBER CARTER AND COUNCILMEMBERS MARTIN AND DALLESSANDRO. I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS YOU'VE HIT ON IS SOMETHING WE'VE TALKED ABOUT. YOU'RE ONE INDIVIDUAL IS GOING TO WALK AWAY WITH A BIG CHECK. WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A PICTURE IN THE GRIPPING GRAND RIGHT OVER HERE. IT'S GOING TO BE EXCITING BUT IT'S OUR HOPE THAT EVERYBODY WHO PARTICIPATES IN THE COMPETITION GETS BENEFIT. AND COUNCILMEMBER MARTIN, TO YOUR POINT ABOUT KIND OF THAT ,YOU KNOW, HOW DO YOU GET PEOPLE OUT THERE TO SHARE THEIR BRAND? YOU KNOW, WE ENVISION AND HAVE DONE SO OUTREACH TO PR CONSULTANTS SOME IN BLOOMINGTON SPECIFICALLY ACROSS THE REGION TO SEEK IN-KIND SUPPORT AS WOULD BE OUR HOPE THAT THEY WOULD RECEIVE THAT BENEFIT REGARDLESS. I LOVE THE IDEA OF BRINGING COMMERCIAL BROKERS BECAUSE THAT'S A BARRIER TO SOME FOLKS JUST KIND OF THAT THE PROCESS OF GETTING THEM, YOU KNOW, A STOREFRONT TO KNOW, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THE THE CAR COUNT, WHAT'S THE WHAT'S THE POPULATION DENSITY, WHAT'S THE AVERAGE HOUSEHOLD INCOME? DOES THIS REALLY WORK FOR FOR MY BUSINESS MODEL. SO FAR BEYOND THAT THAT ONE INDIVIDUAL WHO'S GOING TO WHO'S GOING TO TAKE AWAY THE CHECK I THINK THE BADER OPPORTUNITY IN THIS PROGRAM IS REALLY IN EQUIPPING FOLKS. AND TO YOUR POINT, COUNCILMBERARTER MAKING SURE THAT BLOOMINGTON IS THE DESTINATION OF CHOICE FOR SMALL BUSINESSES, ENTREPRENEURS. COUNCILMEMBER THANK YOU. MAYOR SO I DON'T KNOW IF I MISSED THIS OR NOT. CAN YOU CONFIRM JUST THE FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE? IS IT LOANS OR JUST A GRANT OR A COMBINATION OF BOTH? OH. MR. MAYOR COUNCILMEMBER THIS IS A GRANT. AND THEN MY SECOND QUESTION FIRSTLY I WANT TO THANK THE CHAMBER FOR TAKING ON THE ADMINISTRATION ROLE. I THINK THE CITY DOES A LOT AS ISND S IT'S NICE TO HAVE PARTNERS HELPING US SUPPORT THAT BUT ALSO IN THAT SAME BREATH, YOU KNOW I GUESS WHAT'S THE PLAN TO STAY CONNECTED TO GET AN UPDATE ON HOW THOSE BUSINESSES ARE DOING ESPECIALLY IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE CHAMBERAKE ON THAT MORE ADMINISTRATIVE ROLE. SO I'D LOVE TO UNDERSTAND MORE OF THAT THAT CONCEPT. YEAH. SO AS CARLA MENTIONED, MY TEAM HAS A LONG HISTORY OF WORKING IN PARTNERSHIP WITH LOCAL CITIES. ALMOST 50 YEARS AND PART OF WHAT WE DO IS BUILD OUT A PROGRAM IN PARTNERSHIP WITH OU COMNITY PARTNER AND WITH FINDING OUT WHETHER IT'S A FACADE PROGRAM, A WELLNESS PROGRAM, A ENERGY SUSTAINABILITY PROGRAM TO ENSURE THAT THERE'S CONTINUITY ACROSS THAT PROGRAM, THAT THERE'S ACCOUNTABILITY BECAUSE WE RECOGNIZE THAT WE'RE BEING ENTRUSTED TO BE STEWARDS OF THE RESOURCES THAT THE CITY IS COMMITTING TO US. SO WE'LL WORK IN PARTNERSHIP TO ENSURE THAT WE HAVE A PLAN. THERE WILL BE A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING BETWEEN THE TWO ORGANIZATIONS AND I WILL BE HERE ANY TIME YOU WANT TO PROVIDE UPDATES TO YOU AND YOUR TEAM ON THE PROGRAM. YEAH, I WOULD JUST SAY I WOU VE ESPIALLYECAUSE IT'S THE PILOT TO JUST HAVE MORE REGULAR CHECK INS MAYBE QUARTERLY OR WHATEVER JUST TO SEE WHAT'S GOING ON, HOW IT'S GOING SO WE CAN SUPPORT AS BEST AS WE CAN. SO I WOULD LOVE TO AND MR. MAYOR, COUNCILMEMBER WE WILL INUNDATE YOU WITH INFORMATION AND YOU'LL HAVE ALL THE DATA HOW MANY APPLICANTS WHERE WE ARE IN THE PROCESS YOU'LL BE INVITED TO ALL THE THE SESSIONS AND SO FORTH. WE WILL BE VERY TRANSPARENT. WELL, MR. MAYOR AND COUNCILMEMBER, A REMINDER THAT THIS BODY WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO APPOINT SOMEBODY TO THE SEVEN MBER PAL THAT'S GOING TO BE LIKE ROLLING UP YOUR SLEEVE SO YOU CAN WRESTLE OVER THAT IN THE IN THE DAYS AND WEEKS TO COME. BUT IT'S GOING TO BE FUN. COUNCILMEMBER NELSON, THANK YOU MAN. A COUPLE QUICK QUESTIONS. FIRST, THANK YOU FOR THIS PROGRAM. SOUNDS FANTASTIC. SO MY FIRST QUESTION IS WITH THIS AT ALL INTEGRATE OR COORDINATE WITH THE YOUTH ENTRRENEUR ACADEMY TO GIVE THE KIDS? I THINK THAT'S A PROGRAM OF THE CHAMBER AS WELL. GIVE THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAYBE SEE WHAT SOME OTHER PEOPLE ARE DOING WITHIN THE COMMUNITY. ARE THERE ANY SYNERGIES BETWEEN THE TWO PROGRAMS? YEAH, SO WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN TO THAT. ARE MOST AMERICANS COUNCILMEMBER NELSON WE HAVEN'T GOT TO THAT GRANULAR LEVEL WITH REGARDS TO HOW WE CAN INTERSECT WITH THINGS LIKE BLOOMINGTON FUTURE LEADERS, THE YOUNG ENTREPRENEURSHIP ACADEMY AND OTHER AUGMENTATION PROGRAMS THAT WE HOST. I LOVE THE IDEA OF THINKING ABOUT HOW DO WE. HOW DO WE BUILD ON THIS? HOW DO WE MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, EVERY INVESTMENT WE'RE MAKING IN THIS BOTH OF OF RESOURCE BECAUSE THAT'S SIGNIFICANT BUT OF COLLECTIVE PARTNERSHIP AND TIME AND ENERGY IS LEVERAGED ACROSS MULTIPLE VERTICALS. SO I'L BRING THAACK TO MY TEAM AND COME BACK TO YOU FOR AN UPDATE ON HOW WE'RE THINKING ABOUT DOING MORE OF THAT INTEGRATION. I LOVE THAT IDEA. OKAY. THANK YOU. THE SECOND QUESTION I THINK I'M ASSUMING THAT FOR THE $50,000 FROM THE CHAMBER YOU'RE GOING TO BE DOING SOME LEVEL OF FUNDRAISING FOR THAT FROM THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY OR WILL IT COME OUT OF MEMBERSHIP FUNDS OR HOW ARE YOU? YEAH, SO WE'VE MADE THE COMMITMENT AND I'VE BUDGETED FOR WE'RE IN THAT PROCESS FOR THAT AS AN OUTRIGHT CONTRIBUTION SO SORT OF FUNDING EXISTS. IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WILL SHARE WITH OUR INVESTOR COMMUNITY AS WE GO TO SPEAK TO YOU KNOW, SOURCING RESOURCES FOR THE ORGANIZATION AND YOU KNOW, THE FEW FOLKS THAT HAVE ALREADY SHARED THIS WITH AND NOT TRYING TO GET OVER OUR SKIS OR YOURS HAVE BEEN VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROSPECT BUT THIS IS A DIRECT ALLOCATION FROM THE CHAMBER TO THIS PROGRAM. SO THEN I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE COORDINATE CLOSELY BECAUSE I THINK THERE IS OPPORTUNITIES FOR SPONSORSHIP MONEY IN THIS AND YOU KNOW WHERE THEY GO, WHETHER THEY GO TO THE CHAMBER OR THE CITY, HOW THAT WORKS COORDINATE THAT THE $,000 FM THEITY. I'M NOT IN TERMS OF THE OVERALL BUDGET I'M SUPPORTIVE OF THAT THERE. LAST QUESTION I HAVE AND THIS IS PROBABLY MAYBE FOR THE CITY MANAGER WHO LIKES TO JUST SIT AND BE QUIET BUT I'LL ASK YOU A QUESTION BECAUSE INNOVATION CENTER IS IN THE SOUTH LOOP AREA. IS IT POSSIBLE TO FUND THIS OUT OF SOUTH LOOP FUNDS AS OPPOSED TO GENERAL FUNDS? MR. MAYOR AND COUNCILMEMBERS COUNCILMEMBER NELSON. WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO PROPOSE THAT WE HAVE SATEG PRIORITIES FUNDS FOR THIS BECAUSE IT DOES FIT SQUARELY WITHIN THE STRATEGIC PLAN IN TERMS OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH. AND IF THE COUNCIL DOESN'T WISH TO DO THAT, THEN WE CAN LOOK AT OTHER SOURCES. THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER. WOMAN THANK YOU, MAYOR. THERE'S ALWAYS A TEMPTATION TO START OFF WITH THE ALTERNATIVE POINT OF VIEW BUT I THINK WE ALL KNOW THIS IS A REAL GEM THAT HAS BEEN PUT FORWARD TO US AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING HOW THIS THIS THING. WHETHER IT'S A GOOSE OR A OR CHICKEN OR OR A GOLDEN EGG. I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING WHAT COMES OUT OF THIS AND WITH THAT BEING SAID, YOU KNOW, I AM VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THIS. I THINK IT'S GREAT WE GOT TO HAVE A PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP WITH THE SUMMER MONTHS THAT ARE THERE AND LIKE ANY FUTURE FARMER YOU KNOW YOU WANT TO LOOK TO SEE HOW CAN YOU SUSTAIN THIS OVER THE LONG TERM ONCE THIS IS YOU KNOW, AS THE MAYOR ALWAYS SAYS, A ROARING SUCCESS. SO THAT'S KIND OF THE THING THAT I'M THINKING ABOUT WHEN IT COMES TO THIS AND SO AS I THINK ABOUT BRICK AND MORTAR, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF THE ECONOMY, THAT'S NOT A REAL BIG SEGMENT. YOU KNOW, I KNOW THIS IS AGAIN THIS JUST THE THE THE BEGINNING OF THIS AND I WONDER AS A EXPANDS WILL WE LOOK TO YOU KNOW AND YOU KNOW AND OTHER OTHER ITEMS YOU KNOW IN A DIFFERENT CATEGORY. AND SO THAT'S KIND OF ONE KIND OF QUESTION THAT I HAVE ABOUT THAT AND THEN YEAH, I GUESS IT'S PRETTY MUCH IT, YOU KNOW IN TERMS OF THIS LONG TERM HOW DO WE ONCE WE GET ON THIS THING GOES WORTHY? WELL, WE PUT $100,000 IN THERE AND HOW DO WE DO THIS EVERY YEAR YOU KNOW, FROM NOW UNTIL I YOU KNOW, NO LONGER HERE. MR. MAYOR COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN I THINK COUNCILMEMBER NELSON HIT IT ON THE HEAD AND JONATHAN TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, JUST GETTING SOME OF THE MOMENTUM AND THEN PEOPLE SAY OH WOW, WHAT ARE YOU DOING? OH YEAH, I WANT TO BE A PART OF THAT RIGHT. HOW DO I SUPPORT THAT? I WANT TO, YOU KNOW, CONTRIBUTE SPONSORSHIP. SO DEFINITELY AND I THINK AS U KNOW WE SEE YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE ECONOMY WE COULD LOOK TO PERHAPS FUND OTHER BUSINESSES BUT WE JUST HAVE SO MANY NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL NODES AND WE HAVE SO MANY PEOPLE THAT ARE DOING ENTREPRENEURSHIP PERHAPS IN THEIR HOME OR YOU KNOW, AT A CO-WORKING SPACE AND JUST NEED THAT HELP TO GET THEM IN AND YOU KNOW I MEAN THEY WANT TO KEEP BRINGING UP DETROIT BUT YOU KNOW, WE HAD TWO BROTHERS THAT WERE BAKING BAGELS IN THEIR MOTHER'S KITCHEN AND THEY WOULD TAKE THEM TO EASTERN MARKET EVERY SATURDAY AND THEY WOULD SELL OUT LIKE THAT. THEY APPLIED FOR HATCHERY TRY. THEY FOUND A VACANT BUILDING AND THEY RENOVATED IT AND DETROIT INSTITUTE OF BAGELS WAS BORN OUT OF THAT. THERE WAS A WOMAN WITH YOGA SHOP THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS MS. YOGA STUDIO. SHE APPLIED TO HATCH DETROIT. EVERYBODY VOTED AND SHE OPENED UP LIKE IN A SMALL LIKE RETAIL SHOP MALL STRIP AND SO I THINK THAT THAT'S KIND OF LIKE THE BASIS OF , YOU KNOW, WANTING TO GET SOME EXCITEMENT AROUND, YOU KNOW, THEN EVERYBODY KNOWS, RIGHT? LIKE DETROIT TWO BAGELS OR BLOOMINGTON INSTITUTE OF BAGELS THEY WANT HATCH NOW. YOU KNOW, THEY JUST PEOPLE JUST START GOING BECAUSE THEY'VE HEARD SO MUCH ABOUT IT. BUT WE'RE OPEN TO, YOU KNOW, TAKING A POINT AFTER NEXT YOU KNOW, AFTER WE GO THROUGH THIS ONE SESSION SEEM KIND OF WHAT WORKED, WHAT DIDN'T AND SEE WHERE WE GO FROM THERE. MR. MAYOR COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN, I'VE GOT TWO QUICK THOUGHTS ON THIS. FIRST, YOU KNOW, CARLA, YOUR WALK BEFORE WE RUN. I THINK THE BIGGER CHALLENGE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE AS WE IMPLEMENT THIS IS WHAT IS NEXT YEAR LOOK LIKE. WHAT CONSTRAINTS ARE WE GOING TO HAVE TO PUT ON TO TO COUNCILMEMBER NELSON'S POINT? I THINK THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF FOLKS IN THIS COMMUNITY CLAMORING TO INVEST IN THIS. SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BE HAVING DIFFERENT CONVERSATIONS AROUND YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE VET POTENTIAL SPONSORS? WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE AND HOW DO WE MAKE SURE THAT IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE VALUES OF THIS PROGRAM AND THIS COMMUNITY? AND THEN TO YOUR POINT OF WHAT WE'RE GOING TO HATCH, AM I ADVISED AINSTEARING A CHKEN COSTUME TONIGHT? BUT I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A LONE WOLF. ALL RIGHT. MINNESOTA RIGHT? YEAH, THAT'S GOOD. WELL, THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THAT. YOU KNOW, I DON'T I DON'T THINK THAT DETROIT HAD ANY ISSUES AT ALL AND I ASSUME IT'S AGAIN, IT'S GOING TO GO AND MR. MAYOR, COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN, WE'VE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT RUN THE PROGRAM. I'M STILL FRIENDS WITH THE IT WAS INTERESTING BECAUSE WHEN THE LAST TIME THEY SAID OH YOU'RE GOING TO HATCH BLOOMINGTON, THEY SAID ALL WE ASK IS THAT YOU JUST PUT A LITTLE THING AT THE END THAT JUST SAYS, YOU KNOW, THIS WAS YOU KW, THE IDEA CAM FROM HATCH. THAT'S ALL THEY ASKED FOR. AND ACTUALLY THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT PROMOTING HATCH BLOOMINGTON BECAUSE THEY'RE THERE ON THE NATIONAL STAGE. PEOPLE ASK THEM TO COME AND TALK ABOUT THAT PROGRAM AND THEY SAID THIS WILL BE THE FIRST ONE THAT'S BEEN BORN KIND OF AFTER STARTED. THEY WANT TO TALK ABOUT HATCH BLOOMINGTON AND THE WORK WE'RE DOING HERE IN BLOOMINGTON, MINNESOTA. SO IT'S IT'S A GREAT, GREAT KIND OF RELATIONSHIP ALREADY THEY'VE THEY'VE SENT US THE AGREEMENTS THEY USE WITH THE WINNERS AND LIKE THEY THEY THEY'VE GIVEN US AOT INFORMATION SO WE'RE NOT STARTING FROM SCRATCH. SO I GUESS WE KNOW WHERE THE CHICKEN AND THE EGG. ALL RIGHT, I'LL STOP RIGHT THERE. ALL RIGHT. I WAS JUST GOING TO COMPLIMENT THE COUNCIL ON THEIR THOUGHT QUESTIONS AND YOU KNOW, THE LEVEL OF DISCUSSION IS. COUNCIL MEMBER DALLAS YOU KNOW I MEAN SHE SAID FROM SCRATCH AND IT WENT THERE LIKE YOU COULDN'T HELP IT BUT I DIDN'T GO THERE AND I HAD A CHICKEN HAT WITH YOUR NAME ON IT IF I KNEW YOU COMING JONATHAN I. I JUS H ONE FIN COMMENT AND I AND I MEAN THIS SINCERELY LIKE WE WE THIS IS A GREAT I'M A HUGE FAN OF ENTREPRENEURSHIP. I THINK YOU KNOW, IF YOU THINK ABOUT LIKE THE GREAT YOUNG PEOPLE AT SCRAMBLING EGG WHO HAVE PUT FOOD TRUCK TOGETHER AND EVERYTHING AND THEY'RE DOING THEIR PART THEY'RE BLOOMINGTON RESIDENTS AND AND ALL THAT WE HAVE YOU KNOW, THE GOOD FOLKS FROM IN THE FOOD TRUCK BUSINESS OF MIGHTY TIGER ARE BLOOMINGTON RESIDENTS AS WELL. AND YOU KNOW, WE WE'VE SEEN IT HAPPEN RIGHT NOW. YOU KNOW OBVIOUSLY BOB IN THE WORK HE'S DOING AT NINE MILE, I MEAN PEOPLE WANT DEVELOPMENT THERE. ONE OF TH T THINGS I HEAR WHEN I'M OUT TALKING TO FOLKS IS THAT THAT WE THEY WANT TO BE ABLE TO RIDE THEIR BIKE AND OR WALK SOMEWHERE AND HAVE AN EXPERIENCE AND THAT'S WHAT THIS IS ALL ABOUT. RIGHT. AND WE KNOW THAT WE'RE MOVING OUR OUR OUR LYNDALE NODES AND OTHER LIKE ZONING AND OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT IN ORDER TO ACCOMMODATE THIS. BUT BUT IT WILL TAKE IT WILL TAKE GETTING LIKE GETTING THE CITY OUT OF ITS OWN WAY AND THEN GETTING OUR COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT PARTNERS TO HELP US OUT. SO I REALLY I REALLY AM EXCITED ABOUT IT AND I DO WANT TO ENCOURAGE US TO TO REALLY MOVE IN CONCERT WITH THEM LIKE AS A FLOCK MAYBE I DON'T KNOW SOMETHING LIKE THIS. ALL RIGHT, LET'S WE'RE MOVING ON. APPRECIATE THE DISCUSSION COUNCIL AND THE QUESTIONS AND THE FUNDS FOR WHATEVER THEY'RE WORTH. AND OF COURSE MY MY QUESTION IS I'M I MY MIND IMMEDIATELY WENT TO THE TO THE PUBLICITY OF THIS THIS ON STAGE AS YOU SAID OR ON TV AND MOST IMPORTANTLY ASKING YOU IF I COULD HOST BECAUSE I THINK THIS WOULD BE A HOOT TO BE ABLE TO TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO LOOKING FORWARD TO THE NEXT UPDATE. LOOKING FORWARD TO THE PROGSS THAT YOU MAKE AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH, JONATHAN. THANKS TO THE THE MINNEAPOLIS FOR YOUR SUPPORT OF THIS AND CARLA, THANKS FOR PLANTING THE SEED AND HAVING THIS COME FORWARD BECAUSE I THINK IT'S A FANTASTIC IDEA AND I THINK WE'RE YES, WE'RE GOING TO BE THE ENVY OF MANY. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND SHAUN, THANK YOU FOR PUTTING IN THE LEGWORK BETWEEN ALL THAT YOU'VE DONE AND ALL THAT YOU'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO DO. THANKS FOR DOING THAT. APPRECIATE IT. I'M HERE FOR GOOD AND I'M 5.2 ON OUR AGENDA IS OUR FIRST OF OUR 2024 BUDGET DISCUSSION DISCUSSIONS IN-DEPTH AND TONIGHT WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT OUR PUBLIC SAFETY FOLKS ,POLICE DEPARTMENT AND OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT I THINK AND THE YEAH THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT ON THE AGENDA. I BELIEVE THAT CHIEF HODGES WAS FIRST TO TALK POLICE AND THEN WE'LL MOVE ON TO CHIEF CELE TO TALK FIRE. GOOD EVENING, CHIEF. I JUST WELCOME IT EVEN MAYOR CITY COUNCIL. BEFORE I GET STARTED I'D BE REMISS OBVIOUSLY WE HAD YOU KNOW, ISRAEL HAD DEALT WITH A TERRORIST ATTACK THIS PAS WE AND SO FAR WE'VE HEARD 37 ISRAELI POLICE OFFICERS WERE KILLED DURING THAT TERRORIST ATTACK. SO I JUST ASKED THAT WE REMAIN DILIGENT HERE NOT FORGET ABOUT TERRORISM AND OBVIOUSLY HERE IN BLOOMINGTON OUR STAFF THERE ARE THREE OF US THAT HAVE TOP LEVEL FEDERAL SECURITY CLEARANCES. SO WE ARE IN CONSTANT CONTACT WITH OUR FEDERAL PARTNERS HERE TO ENSURE THAT WE ARE NOTIFIED IF ANYTHING THIS SPECIFIC TO THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON. SO I KNOW I'VE GOTTEN A COUPLE CALLS TODAY ON THAT SO I JUST WANTED TO TELL PEOPLE THAT THAT HERE IN BLOOMINGTON WE DO TAKE THIS SERIOUSLY AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO KEEP OUR EYE ON THAT BALL YEAH. SO AT THAT WE'LL GO TO OUR BUDGET SO THIS IS OUR PHOTO HERE THIS FIRST PHOTO THAT THE ENTIRE POLICE DEPARTMENT TOOK IN 20 YEARS SO MAYBE WE'LL TAKE ANOTHER ONE IN 20 YEARS. IT KIND OF LOOKS DIFFERENT THAN THE OTHER ONE WE TOOK IN 2003 BUTEAVE SOME PEOPLE WORKING HERE FROM BACK THEN TOO SO THAT'S KIND OF FUNNY. ALL RIGHT. SO HOW DOES THIS THING WORK? YOU KNOW ME AND TECHNOLOGY, MY CAREER, MY POINT. OH OKAY. OH, SO YOU GOT TO HAVE A WORD APPOINTMENT. ALL RIGHT. SO OUR MISSION BUTTON IS PUSHING THE BUTTON. SO OUR MISSION STATEMENT IS RESPECT DEMONSTRATED THROUGH OUR COMPASSION ON A SERVICE THAT'S WHAT WE STAND FOR HERE AT THE BLOOMINGTON POLICE DEPARTMENT AND EVERYBODY KNOWS OUR CORE VALUE IS RESPECT. IT'S NOT WORKING LIKE ALL GOING THROUGH. ALL RIGHT. ONE THING I'D LIKE SOME TIME. ALL RIGHT. SO OUR AGENDA HERE WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT 2024 VERSUS 2023 BUDGET REQUEST. WE'RE GOING TO GO OVER AN EXPLANATION OF OUR 2024 BUDGET INCREASES. I'LL DISCUSS FULL AND PART TIME EMPLOYEE POSITIONS OUR ONGOING INITIATIVES CHALLENGES AND A BRIEF DISCUSSION ON THE $3.9 MILLION THAT WE ARE SAID TO RECEIVE FROM THE STATE. I THINK IT'S DECEMBER 23RD AS PART OF THE LEGISLATION THAT WAS PASSED THIS PAST SESSION. SO OUR BUDGET AS YOU CAN SEE HERE ARE 2023 BUDGET. WE'RE ASKING FOR AN INCREASE FOR OUR PERMIT AND LICENSES OVER THE FROM 2023 TO 2024. OUR INTERGOVERNMENTAL REMAINS THE SAME TRANSFER FROM OTHER FUNDS. THERE'S A SLIGHT INCREASE THERE. THE MAIN INCREASE THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR IN OUR BUDGET IS GOING TO BE FOR SALARY AND BENEFITS WHICH IS $1.4 MILLION. I'LL GO INTO DETAILS ON THIS IN A LITTLE BIT. AND THE SECOND SIGNIFICANT INCREASE THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR IS OUR INTERNAL SERVICE FEES SO THE WE'RE PROJECTED SALARY AND BENEFIT INCREASES FROM 2023 2024 IS $1.4 MILLION AND WE'RE ALSO THERE'S ONLY ONE POSITION IN THAT AND THAT IS A DISPATCHER POSITION WHICH WILL BE ADDED WHICH WILL BRING OUR COMPLEMENT OF DISPATCHERS UP TO 14 THE OTHER $648,000 IS AN INCREASE IN OUR INTERNAL SERVICE CHARGES FLEET. NOW EVERYBODY KNOWS VEHICLES HAVE GONE UP SO OUR FLEET COSTS GONE UP AND THEN THERE'S ALSO AN INCREASE IN OUR I.T SERVICES THAT WE ALL UTILIZE HERE AND WE ALSO HAVE AN INCREASE IN OUR MATERIALS AND SUPPLIES FOR SERVICES OF 2.68% NO AT THE ONE T MANY TIM NOW. ALL RIGHT SO RIGHT NOW OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS A AUTHORIZED COMPLEMENT 828 OFFICERS AND AS OF TODAY WE HAVE A 128 OFFICERS ON STAFF. WE HAVE BEEN FULLY STAFFED AS A POLICE DEPARTMENT ABOUT THE LAST 12 MONTHS. WE'RE THE FOURTH LARGEST CITY IN THE STATE. MINNEAPOLIS OBVIOUSLY IS NOT FULLY STAFFED SAINT PAUL POLICE DEPARTMENT IS OBVIOUSLY NOT FULLY STAFFED. ROCHESTER POLICE DEPARTMENT IS OBVIOUSLY NOT FULLY STAFFED AND IN THE CITY THAT'S KIND OF CLOSE TO US IS DULUTH THEY'RE NOT THEY'RE NOT FULLY STAFFED EITHER. WE ARE THE ONLY LARGE POLICE DEPARTMENT IN THE STATE THAT IS REMAINED FULLY STAFFED AND THAT'S SOMETHING I INTEND TO KEEP MOVING INTO FUTURE. OUR DISPATCHERS, OUR PUBLIC SAFETY TELECOMMUNICATIONS OBVIOUSLY WE'RE ASKING FOR THAT EXTRA BODY TO MOVE FROM TO 14 RIGHT NOW WE CURRENTLY HAVE 11 DISPATCHERS THE TRAINING REGIMENT FOR THEM IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN POLICE OFFICERS. I MEAN NORMALLY WE CAN GET POLICE OFFICERS UP AND RUNNING ON THE STREET WITHIN 12 MONTHS BEFORE OUR DISPATCHERS ARE FULLY AND ABLE TO DO THE JOB BY THEMSELVES. IT TAKES US ABOUT 12 TO 14 MONTHS FOR THEM SO IT'S JUST A LITTLE BIT LONGER. SO WE'VE BEEN DOING A PRETTY GOOD JOB OF GETTING THOSE FOLKS IN . ALL RIGHT SO LONG GO ON INITIATIVES MOVING FORWARD IN 2024 WE CONTINUE THIS STARTED THIS 2023 IS FOCUSED ON WHAT I CALL BRAIN HEALTH I DON'T I'M NOT PARTICULARLY FOND OF THE TERM MENTAL HEALTH THERAIN IS AN ACTUAL ORGAN THAT THAT WE USE AND SOMETIMES WE FORGET THAT. SO THAT'S WHY I CHANGED THE TERMINOLOGY FOR US IN TERMS OF BRAIN HEALTH. BUT WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? WE CHANGED OUR CHECKUP FROM AN ECHO PROVIDER TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR STAFF ARE ABLE TO GET OUR ANNUAL MENTAL HEALTH WELLNESS CHECKS IN A MANNER THAT SERVES THEM. AND WE THINK WE MADE A GOOD CHANGE FOR THAT AND ALSO IN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS WE WILL HAVE AN INITIATIVE THAT I'M NOT READY ANNOUNCE TONIGHT BUT WE WILL BE ONE OF THE WE WILL BE THE FIRST POLICE DEPARTMENT IN THE COUNTRY T PUTORTH A INIATI FOR BRAIN HEALTH FOR OUR CITIZENS. SO WE BOUGHT THE NEXT TWO WEEKS WE SHOULD BE READY TO GO WITH THAT. WE'VE GOT A COUPLE MORE TEAS AND ICED TEAS TEAS ACROSS AND I SAID THAT OUR COMMUNITY OUTREACH PROGRAMS JOINT COMMUNITY POLICE PARTNERSHIP WHICH HAS PARTNERED HENNEPIN COUNTY AND RUNS OUR MAC COFFEE WITH CITIZENS ACADEMY NATIONAL NIGHT OUT AND SANTA'S CUP SO WE WILL ALSO THERE'S A COUPLE OF INITIATIVES WE'RE GOING TO LK AT FOR OUR COMMUNITY RELATIONS MOVING FORWARD IN 2024. WE SHOULD BE READY TO TALK ABOUT THOSE IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS ALSO CHALLENGES REPLACING POLICE OFFICERS DUE TO UPCOMING RETIREMENTS RIGHT NOW AS YOU KNOW, DEPUTY CHIEF GILES JUST RETIRED AND IN THE NEXT 14 OUR NEXT 18 MONTHS 18 TO 24 MONTHS WERE SCHEDULED TO HAVE BETWEEN 14 AND 17 PEOPLE RETIRE JUST GIVE YOU AN IDEA MINNEAPOLIS HAS AN ACADEMY RIGHT NOW AND I THINK THEY'RE THAN TEN. RIGHT. SO REPLACINGHESE PEOPLE IN THE NEXT 24 MONTHS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE WORKING ON NOW. WE'RE GOING TO KEEP FOCUSING ON EMPLOYEE RETENTION. WE DO I THINK WE DO A PRETTY GOOD JOB OF THAT PATHWAYS TO POLICING. YOU KNOW, FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO DON'T KNOW WHAT PATHWAYS TO POLICING IS, IT'S A PROGRAM WHERE WE TAKE PEOPLE WHO GOT COLLEGE DEGREES AND WE PAY FOR THEM TO GO TO SCHOOL AND THEN WE GIVE THEM A JOB AS POLICE OFFICERS I FIRMLY BELIEVE THAT PATHWAYS IS THE WAY THAT WE'RE GOING TO STAY AHEAD OF THIS CURVE IN THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE'RE IN A HIRING PROCESS AND W HAVE SOME VERY HIGHLY QUALIFIED PEOPLE COMING INTO THE PATHWAYS PROGRAM. SO I THINK THAT'S JUST THE WAY WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO MOVING FORWARD TO STAY AHEAD OF THIS AND GET THERE, GET SOME GREAT PEOPLE IN HERE SO THAT PATHWAYS IS BASICALLY A GOOD PROGRAM FOR SOMEONE WHO'S A SECOND CAREER PERSON, RIGHT? SO WE GOT ONE PERSON IN OUR PROCESS OBVIOUSLY I GOT TO COMPLETE IT BUT THAT WORKED IN A SEWER YOU KNOW DOING SEWER AND SEWER WORK. WE HAVE ANOTHER PERSON THAT'S PRACTICING THEY ACTUALLY THAT PRACTICE THEY DO LAY GAS PIPELINE SO I MEAN WE'RE GETTING THESE PEOPLE FROM DIFFERENT WAL OF LIFE AND BEING ABLE TO PAY THEM TO GO TO SCHOOL AND THEM A JOB IS REALLY ALLOWED US TO STAY AHEAD OF THE CURVE ON THAT. POLICE CADETS IS ANOTHER WAY WHERE WE'RE TAKING I SAY KIDS YOUNG PEOPLE WHO ARE IN HOOL AND GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY TO WORK IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WHILE THEY GO TO SCHOOL. THAT'S ANOTHER WAY WHERE WE'RE ABLE TO CONTINUE TO MAINTAIN OUR STAFFING TRAINING PROGRAMS OBVIOUSLY WE WILL NOT CHANGE OUR HIRING STANDARDS FOR NO ONE. SO WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO HIRE PEOPLE WHO HAVE GOOD CHARACTER AND WE' TRAIN THEM TO DO THE JOB AND IT'S WORKED OUT PRETTY WELL FOR US. MAINTAINING AND REPLACING OLD EQUIPMENT IS ALSO ANOTHER CHALLENGE AND I CHIEF SEALE'S PROBABLY ON TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS WHEN HE TALKS ABOUT FIRE TRUCKS AND WHATNOT BUT GETTING VEHICLES HAS BEEN A SIGNIFICANT CHALLENGE FOR US OVER THE LAST 12 MONTHS. SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON BUT IT'S IT'S BEEN A CHALLENGE AND OUR SQUAD CARS ARE JUST NOT MEANT TO BE DRIVEN FOR OVER 100 123,000 MILES THE WAY THEY GET DRIVEN ON THESE CITY STREETS, THEY'RE JUST NOT IT'S NOT ECONOMICALLY FEASIBLE. IT'S NOT ENVIRONMENTAL OR FEASIBLE EITHER TO HAVE THEM DRIVE THAT LONG SO WE WE HAVE TO FIGURE SOMETHING OUT WITH OUR SQUAD CARS. PUBLIC SAFETY AIDE THIS IS OUR PROPOSED HOW WE DIVIDED IT UP WE ACTUALLY HAD A CONVERSATION WITH THE CITY MANAGER MYSELF CHIEF STEELE AND THE CITY ATTORNEY. SO THIS IS THE THE WAY WE'RE PROPOSING TO DIVIDE THAT UP. THE POLICE DEPARTMENT PORTION OBVIOUSLY IS MORE THAN THE REST BUT OUR PORTION WE HAVE SOMEROPOSA AND I KNOW THE CITY MANAGER WILL BRING THOSE TO YOU FOR WE INTEND TO SPEND THAT BUT A HUGE PORTION OF THAT IS MAKING SURE IT'S ONE TIME MONEY. IT'S NOT ONGOING MONEY SO MAKING WE'RE USING ONE TIME MONEY WISELY ON ONE TIME MONEY PURCHASES AND YOU KNOW, SOME OF THIS STUFF WILL BE PERSONNEL BUT IT'S TO KEEP US AHEAD OF THE RETIREMENT CURVE. BUT I'LL HAVE HIM GET INTO THE DETAILS WITH YOU ALL AT SOME POINT. BUT CHIEF ROGERS, IF I COULD JUST INTERRUPT YOU JUST TO PUT A LITTLE BIT OF A SPECIFIC EXPECTATION. OCTOBER 30TH IS THE DAY THAT WE'RE GOING TO BRING IN THAT ALONG WITH SOME OTHER DISCUSSIONS RELATED TO STATE STRATEGIC PRIORITIES FUNDS AND AND SOME OTHER DISCUSSION SO THAT IT WAS VAGUE SAYING LATER THIS YEAR I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW WE'LL HAVE IT HERE YET THIS MONTH. SO THAT'S WHY HE'S THE BOSS SO WITH THAT ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS? THANK YOU, CHIEF. ALSO DISCUSSIONS QUESTIONS COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN. THANK YOU, MAYOR. I PROMISE I WON'T DO ANY MORE SHAMELESS JOKES. THANKS FOR MENTIONING THE RETIREMENT PIECE THAT WAS COMING UP. THAT'S WHY WHEN I SAW THE BUDGET THAT WAS PRESENTED TO US I WAS CONCERNED THAT I DIDN'T SEE ADDITIONAL BODIES BEING ASKED FOR SO THAT WE WERE PREPARED TO HAVE A SMOOTH TRANSION WHEN YOU KNOW THOSE 14 TO 17 OR PLUS YOU NEVER KNOW ONE PERSON ENDS UP GETTING RECRUITED SOMEWHERE ELSE WHICH I FIND THAT HARD TO BUT BUT IT MAY BE THAT'S COMING ON THE 30TH WHAT THAT PLAN LOOKS LIKE BUT YOU OTHER THAN THAT THIS LOOKS I MEAN THAT'S SOMETHING I COULD PROBABLY SUPPORT WHEREAS COUNCIL ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS COMMENTS COUNCILMEMBER NELSON AND COUNCILMEMBER CARTER COUNCILMEMBER NELSON YEAH. THANK YOU. JUST A QUICK QUESTION. THE CITY BUDGET WENT UP SIGNIFICANTLY. I THINK WHEN WE HEAR FROM CHIEF CELE WE'LL SEE THAT WELL AS THAT WE'LL TALK ABOUT ALL OF THOSE INTERNAL SERVICES FUND IN A DIFFERENT BUDGET CONVERSATION CORRECT? YEAH. SO DON'T NEED TO DOVE INTO THAT TOO MUCH RIGHT NOW. YEAH. THIS BUDGET COME I BELIEVE THAT ONE IS SCHEDULED FOR MIDDLE OF NOVEMBER. YEAH SOUNDS GOOD. THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER CARTER, YOU MAYOR, CAN YOU JUST TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE NEED FOR THE ADDITIONAL SAFETY TELECOMMUNITY LEADER POSITION? YES WE OBVIOUSLY WITH FIRE GOING FOR TIME AND OUR CAR VOLUME HERE IT'S ESSENTIAL THAT WE THIS EXTRA POSITION TO KEEP OUR DISPATCHERS BEING ABLE TO MAINTAIN A QUALITY OF LIFE. RIGHT. I MEAN SO PEOE ARE ABL TO GET TIME OFF AND BE WITH THEIR FAMILIES AND NOT WORK 16 HOURS A DAY BUT OUR CAR AND OUR CAT CALLS AND ESPECIALLY AND FULL TIME FIRE GOING TO REQUIRE US TO HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL NEEDS IN THE DISPATCH CENTER. THANK YOU FOR THAT AND I THINK IT'S A GOOD TO THE COMMUNITY THAT THIS POSITION JUST ISN'T TO SERVE THE DEPARTMENT RATES TO SERVE POLICE AND FIRE. SO ANYBODY THAT'S CALLING IN IN EMERGENCY SITUATION AND SO I THINK IN THE NEXT PRESENTATION THERE MIGHT BE SOME NUMBERS RELATED TO INCREASING CALLS ANDHING LIKE THAT. SO THANK YOU FOR GIVING SOME MORE DETAILS THERE AND AND I ALSO AM SUPPORTIVE OF EVERYTHING THAT YOU'VE LAID OUT SO THANK YOU. THANKS COUNCILMEMBER NELSON COUNCILMEMBER ELIZONDO COUNCILMEMBER NELSON FORGIVE ME I JUST WANT TO FOLLOW UP QUICKLY ON COUNCILMEMBER CARTER'S WE DON'T HAVE A SITUATION WHERE OUR ARE WORKING THAT MUCH ANYMORE. I REMEMBER WE HAD SOME LIKE ASTRONAUT CALL A NUMBER OF HOURS A COUPLE OF THEM WERE WORKING AND WE'RE IN A BETTER SPOT NOW, AREN'T WE? ABSOLUTELY. YOU KNOW AND I YES WE ARE. OKAY. I THINK WHEN I GOT HEREE AT SIX AND WE'RE AT 11. YEAH I REMEMBER I MEAN WE WERE SEEING NUMBERS LIKE PEOPLE WERE WORKING 100 AND HOURS A WEEK OR SOMETHING. IT WAS NOT SUSTAINABLE TO YOUR POINT. SO THANK YOU FOR ADDRESSING THAT AND THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER CARTER FOR BRINGING THAT UP BECAUSE IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT YOU KNOW ALL THAT THEY DO WITH THE POLICE FIRE AND PROBABLY EMS TO HELP PEOPLE THROUGH AND NOT TO MENTION JUST THE WORK THEY DO ON THE PHONE WHEN CALL TO HELP KEEP THE SITUATION CALM HELP YOU ADDRESS THINGS BEFE YOU ARE YOU KNOW THE POLICE OR THE FIRE CAN GET THERE THEY DO AN EXCELLENT JOB SO THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO. THANK YOU. 88 RATE HOW HOW MANY HOW MANY CARS ARE WE LIKE WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THE ARE WE TALKING ABOUT HERE REPRESENTED BY THE 400 K I WOULD HAVE TO GET BACK TO YOU ON THAT SOMETHING UNDER 25% OR YOU KNOW I DON'T KNOW IF YOU LIKE YEAH FEEL LIKE THAT'S LIKE TWO CARS YH S A SQUAD CAR FULLY OUTFITTED IS AROUND 80 AND $90,000 BUT THE ACTUAL CAR ITSELF IS AROUND 4245. OKAY SO THE OUTFIT PIECE AND JUST SO THE PUBLIC KNOWS WE CAN TAKE EQUIPMENT OUT OF OLD SQUAD CARS AND PUT IT IN A NEW SQUAD CARS UNLESS THEY SUBSTANTIALLY CHANGE THE BODY MODEL. I SEE. OKAY THAT'S HELPFUL. THINK SO THAT NUMBER IS SOMEWHERE BETWEEN FIVE AND TEN JUST DEPENDING ON WHAT YOU'RE DOING WITH IT. OKAY. THAT'S VERY HELPFUL. THANK YOU. IS THAT PRETTY COMMON LIKE SHOULD WE JUSTE KIND IN OUR HEADS PLANNING FOR IF ARE WE ON A ON A WE ON A SCHEDULE WHERE 4 TO 5 CARS PER YEAR OVER THE NEXT YOU KNOW, FIVE YEARS OR SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT? I MEAN WHAT'S YOUR TAKE ON THAT? YEAH, I THINK THAT WOULD BE A DISCUSSION WE'VE GOT TO HAVE WITH PUBLIC WORKS. OKAY. SO AND HOW HE PLANS TO MANAGE YEAH I MEAN I HAVE AN IDEA OF WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO AND I MEAN UNDERSTOOD YOU'D HAVE TO TALK TO HIM. OKAY IT WOULD IT WOULD BE GREAT IF WE COULD KIND OF DOVETAIL THESE TWO ASKS TOGETHER JUST TO KNOW LIKE WHAT PERCEAGE THE FLEET BUDGET THAT'S COMING FROM PUBLIC WORKS IS ACTUALLY REPRESENTED BY THIS NUMBER HERE. THAT WOULD BE GREAT. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THAT. AND THEN MY UNDERSTANDING AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS AN INTERNAL CHARGE OR NOT BUT I DO REMEMBER A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN THE COST OF OUR DATA STORAGE FOR THE BODY CAMERAS LAST YEAR. IS THAT INCLUSIVE HERE OR DOES THAT COUNT AS AN INTERNAL CHARGE OR IS THAT AREN'T EVEN BAKED INTO THE OPERATIONS BUDGET? THE POLICE DEPARTMENT I MEAN I THINK IT WENT SOMETHING LIKE 180 TO LIKE 500 GRAND LAST YEAR. YES, COUNCILMEMBER IT'S NOT IN OUR INTERNAL SERVICE INCREASE. OKAY SO THAT WAS YOU GUYS GRACIOUSLY AGREED TO THAT LAST YEAR. YOU'RE CARRYING THAT OVER, RIGHT? OKAY. AND THEN THEY HAVEN'T COME BACK AND ASKED FOR ADDITIONAL MONEY THIS TIME AROUND. NO, NO SO WE THINK WE SIGNED A FIVE YEAR CONTRACT. WE MAY COME BACK AS WE CONTINUE GROW THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND ASK FOR ADDITIONAL MONEY FOR THAT JUST DEPENDING ON HOW MANY LICENSES THEY ALLOW US TO GIVE EARLY CHARGES MONEY, RIGHT. OKAY. I DON'T KNOW. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN TALK ABOUT PUBLICLYUST BECAUSE KNOW IT'S IT CAN BE MAYBE ADJACENT TO A LABOR RELATED QUESTION BUT MY MY UNDERSTANDING IS, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE 1.4 MILLION THAT'S IN HERE IS A FUNCTION. THE CONTRACT THAT WAS THAT WAS NEGOTIATED WITH THE UNION, IS THAT RIGHT? I MEAN THAT'S JUST AS LIKE IT'S NOT UP FOR NEGOTIATION BECAUSE IT WAS ALREADY NEGOTIATED IS KIND OF MY POINT IS THAT A FAIR ASSESSMENT? MR. RUDY YEAH. MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS ALL OF OUR COLLECTIVE BARGAINING UNIT AGREEMENTS ARE EXPIRING AT THE END OF THIS YEAR SO WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF NEGOTIATION AND NOW TO DETERMINE WHAT THE ACTUAL CONTRACT LANGUAGE WILL BE FOR NEXT YEAR. OKAY. ARE YOU MAKING AN ASSUMPTION IN THIS NUMBER THAT WILL BE MATERIALLY THE SAME THEN AT THE MOMENT WE ARE OKAY. THANKS. I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. SO JUST BUILDING OFF COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO THE QUESTION ON REGARDING FLEET AND SO I GUESS I WAS SURPRISED TO HEAR THAT A SQUAD CAR HAS A LIFESPAN OF 120,000 MILES GIVEN THE QUALITY OF VEHICLES. NOW THE QUALITY OF CARE OF VEHICLES NOW AND I UNDERSTAND THEY'RE DRIVEN HARD I GET THAT. BUT MANY TIMES THEY'RE DRIVEN LIKE A TICALAR AS WELL. IT JUST SURPRISES ME THAT 120,000 MILES IS THE UPPER LIMIT FOR FOR AN SUV DRIVEN ON CITY STREETS OVER THE COURSE OF A COUPLE OF YEARS. YEAH BECAUSE THE MAINTENANCE BECOMES COST PROHIBITIVE AND THEN YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER TO SQUAD CARS ARE A LOT HEAVIER THAN REGULAR CARS BECAUSE OF ALL THE EQUIPMENT THAT IS IN THERE THEY RUN LONGER THEY'RE THEY'RE IDLING LONGER THAN YOUR AVERAGE CAR BECAUSE OF THE ALL THE ELECTRONICS IN THERE SO THERE'S YES, IT MIGHT BE 120,000 MILES BUT THE ENGINE HOURS ARE GOING TO FAR EXCEED WHAT SOMEONE IN THE CIVILIAN MARKET WOULD BE DRIVING AND THAT MAKES SENSE. I THINK YOU CANCEL ANYTHING ELSE VERY GOOD . THANKS. THANK YOU. JEFF BRIDGES. AND WITH THAT WE'LL TURN OUR ATTENTION TO OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT AND CHIEF SEAL MAYOR COUNCILMEMBERS. GOOD TO SEE YOU TONIGHT. SEE YOU TRY TO DO THAT. ALL RIGHT. I'M HANGING AND I SHOULD SAY CHICO AND ASSISTANT CHIEF. SO THIS IS OUR BUDGET PRESENTATION. WE'RE GOING TO KIND OF SPLIT IT UP A LITTLE BIT. HE'S GOING TO TALK SPECIFICALLY ABOUT FUTURE AND I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT NEXT YEAR. SO OUR MISSION IS JUST PRESERVATION AND PROTECTION OF LIFE AND PROPERTY AND THE ENVIRONMENT AGAINST INJURY AND DAMAGE FROM EMERGENCIES AND DISASTERS. AND HE USED SAY IN THE CITY BUT WE GO A LOT OF HER PLACES NOW AND DO THE SAME THINGS. WE WERE IN A DINER TODAY. THEY HAD A THREE ALARM LARGE FIRE THERE THERE. SO WE WERE THERE TODAY. THE AGENDA IS VERY SIMILAR TO THE LAST AGENDA YOU SAW THE SAME TEMPLATE SO OUR BUDGET REQUEST FOR NEXT YEAR EXPLANATION OF THE INCREASES IN FULL TIME AND PART TIME EMPLOYEE POSITIONS ONGOING IN NEW INITIATIVES CHALLENGES OUR PIECE OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY AID AND THEN DISCUSSION AND HERE'S OUR BUDGET DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 2 AND 24 YOU CAN SEE THERE'S SIGNIFICANT PERCENTAGE INCREASE. MOST OF THAT'S GOING TO BE PEOPLE AND YOU'LL SEE THAT AS WE AS WE MOVE FORWARD HERE. SO HERE'S THE INCREASES WE HAVE A JUST SHY OF 400,000 PROJECTED SALARY AND BENEFIT INCREASES FOR OUR FULL TIME PEOPLE PLUS THE ADDITIONAL THREE FULL TIME FIREFIGHTERS THAT WE FUNDED WITH THE GENERAL FUND THIS YEAR THAT WE PARTIALLY FUNDED FOR THIS YEAR. SO WE ADDED THREE HALFWAY THROUGH THE YEAR IF YOU REMEMBER SO THERE'S A CHANGE BETWEEN 2023 AND 24 THAT INCLUDES THE OTHER HALF OF OUR FULL YEAR THE ADDITION OF ABOUT JUST SHY 800,000 FOR SIX ADDITIONAL FULL TIME FIREFIGHTERS WERE PLANNING ON REPLACING SIX FIREFIGHTERS TO A CAPTAIN LEVEL IN OF 24. WE HAVE A DECREASE IN MATERIAL SUPPLIES AND SERVICES MAINLY DUE TO THE FACT THAT IN 23 WE HIRED 18 FIREFIGHTERS SO WE HAD A LOT MORE ASSOCIATED WITH ONBOARDING 18 NEW EMPLOYEES. WE'RE NEXT YEAR IT'LL JUST BE SIX AND THAT IT'S SAFER. GROUND ONLY COVERS SALARIES AND BENEFITS AND THEN WE GOT AN INCREASE IN INTERNAL SERVICE FUND CHARGES PRIMARY DRIVERS WERE FLEETS AND MOST OF THAT 60,000 AND FLEET REPAIRS IS ACTUALLY IN FUEL THAT I.T FACILITY SPACE AND OCCUPANCY CHARGES WE HAD A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT INCREASE BUT THAT'S BECAUSE WE'VE ADDED SOME SIGNIFICANT SQUARE FOOTAGE AND SOME NEW BUILDINGS AND THEN WE 150 K AND REDUCTION IN AMOUNT OF OUR EQUIPMENT FUND AND WE'RE OFFSETTING THE FIRE FUND FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS WITH THAT PUBLIC SAFETY DOLLARS THAT'S $716,000 IN PUBLIC SAFETY DOLLARS. SO WE'RE GOING TO USE OUR PUBLIC SAFETY DOLLARS TO BUY EQUIPMENT. I THINK WILL BE JUST A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF THAT COMING UP. AND THEN THE 98,500 CAPITAL OUTLAY AND I'LL HIT ON THAT AS WELL SO OBVIOUSLY YOU GUYS KNOW THIS BUT WE RESPOND TO ALL OF OURMERGENCY CALLS FROM SIX FIRE STATIONS THROUGHOUT THE CITY AND WE USE A COMBINATION STAFF RIGHT NOW PART TIME AND FULL TIME PEOPLE THIS IS OUR LIST CURRENTLY ON THE LIST DOESN'T MAKE A WHOLE LOT OF SENSE IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT TOTAL NUMBERS. THAT'S PARTLY BECAUSE WE'VE GOT SOME OF OUR PART TIME PEOPLE THAT WE ALSO HIRED AS FULL TIME PEOPLE SO I DIDN'T WANT TO DOUBLE COUNT THEM IN HERE BUT IT GETS PRETTY COMPLICATED WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO TRYING TO DO THE CROSSOVERS SO ONGOING AND NEW INITIATIVES FIRE STATION, OPEN HOUSES, FIRE PREVENTION ACTIVITIES AND VISITS ENFORCEMENT SMOKE ALARM INSTALLATIONS FOR QUALIFIED CAR SEAT CLINICS. WE ARE STILL INVOLVED IN OUR EFFORT TO IMPROVE AND MEET OUR RESPONSE METRICS AND I'LL TALK ABOUT A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT IN A LITTLE BIT. STAFFING IMPROVEMENTS WE CONTINUE TO CHANGE. WE'RE ADDING THE SIX TO EASE AND STARTING TO ADD THE SUPERVISORY POSITIONS FOR THOSE PEOPLE. NOW WE'RE HIRING AT FIREFIGHTER LEVEL AND THEN SOME PART TIME ADDITIONS, NEW INITIATIVES THAT WE STARTED AS PART OF OUR PCESS FOR OUR NEW FULL TIME EMPLOYEES WERE WERE A PARAMEDIC ENGINE RESPONSE AND THIS IS JUST INCREASING OUR PATIENT CARE CAPABILITIES FOR MEDIC CALLS AS WELL AS CAR CRASHES AND AND ON ALL THOSE CALLS AND INVOLVING PATIENT CARE FLEET MAINTENANCE AND REPLACEMENT WE'RE CONTINUING TO MAINTAIN OUR FLEET AND REPLACE OUR FLEET AND I'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT WITH THE WITH THE FIRE EQUIPMENT FIRE STATION REPLACEMENT THAT'S ONGOING AND THE PLANS ARE AS YOU'LL SEE IN THE FUTURE PIECE OF THIS IN AND DEPENDENT UPON A LOT OF THINGS. BUT THE NEXT STATION WOULD BE IN 26 TRAINING AND IMPLEMENTING PEER SUPPORT TEAMS. WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF OF DEVELOPING OUR OWN PEER TO PEER SUPPORT TEAMS WITHIN OUR DEPARTMENT AND THE TRAINING FOR THAT AND DEVELOPMENT OF THAT IS IS BE STARTING NEXT YEAR MANDATORY MENTAL HEALTH AND WELLNESS CHECKS WE ACTUALLY MADE THAT MANDATORY FOR THIS YEAR AND WE'RE CONTINUING THAT NEXT YEAR AND FOLLOWING UP WITH OUR FOLKS ON AN ONGNG BIS. WE'RE ALSO IN VOLVED WITH A PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM WITH CENTURY COLLEGE TO CONTINUE TO TRY TO DEVELOP OUR PERSONNEL AT THE FIREFIGHTER LEVEL ON UP SO CHALLENGES US SO OUR CALLS FOR SERVICE CONTINUES TO INCREASE YOU KNOW YOU CAN SEE OUR CALLS FOR SERVICE HAVE GONE UP QUITE A BIT I WILL PITCH A LITTLE BIT FOR THE 911 FOLKS IN 2019 THERE WERE JUST OVE 49,000 49,000 911 CALLS IN A911 IN DISPATCH I THINK 4040 9300 WE HAD A LITTLE DIP IN 20 AND 21 FOR SOME OBVIOUS REASONS. IN 2022 WE WERE UP 49,700 ABOUT AND I THINK IN 2023 BASED ON THE THE PROJECTION OR AT LEAST THE PACE WE WERE ON THROUGH THE END OF AUGUST 24TH, I THINK THEY'LL TOP 50,000 CALLS INTO THE NINE ROHMAN DISPATCH CENTER. NOW THIS IS PEOPLE THAT PICK UP AND CALL 911. THIS DOESN'T THE CALLS, INTERAGENCY CALLS AND ALL THE OTHER CALLS THEY HANDLE AS WELL SO CALL VOLUME IS INCREASING NOT ONLY FOR OUR CITY BUT ACROSS THE COUNTRY. AND YOU CAN SEE A THAT WHILE WE'VE HAD A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN CALLS OUR ABILITY TO RESPOND TO THEM HAS BEEN GREATLY IMPROVED BY ADDITION OF OUR OF OUR DUTY CREWS AND OUR FULL TIME STAFF. MR. MAYOR, COULD I JUST JUMP IN REAL QUICKLY? CHIEF STEELE, COULD YOU GO BA TOHAT SLIDE? SURE. I KNOW THE COUNCIL IS FAMILIAR WITH THE LANGUAGE, BUT IF WE HAVE FOLKS WHO ARE WATCHING AT HOME, YOU SPEND JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME TALKING ABOUT ROLE LIGHT AND FEEL TO ROLE AND JUST EXPLAIN WHY THAT'S AN ISSUE FOR US WHEN WHEN WE'RE RESPONDING. YES. SO ROLLING LIGHT FOR US MEANS WE ROLL A TRUCK WITH TWO PEOPLE OR LESS. PERSONALLY I'M VERY MUCH VESTED IN HAVING FOUR PEOPLE ON EVERY TRUCK FOR MANY REASONS THAT I'D BE HAPPY TO EXPLAIN. WHEN YOU GOT SOME INSOMA PROBLEMS THE THAT'S THE ROLE IN LIGHT OUR RIG IS SHORT WE'VE GOT TOO FEW PEOPLE ON A CREW TODAY WAS A GOOD EXAMPLE WE HAD A TWO PERSON ENGINE THAT WAS FIRST IN ON A STRUCTURE FIRE AND SO MY NEXT IN CHIEF IS FILLING IN ON THAT CREW TO HELP GET THAT LINE STRETCHED TO EXTINGUISH AN ATTIC FIRE. THE FAILED TO ROLL A PIECE OF EQUIPMENT THAT WAS ASSIGNED TO A CALL FOR ONE REASON OR ANOTHER AND NEVER GOT OUT ACTUALLY DIDN'T GET OUT THE DOOR DUE TO LACK OF STAFFING. NOW I WILL SAY THAT ALL OUR CALLS ARE RESPONDED TO THE FAILED ROLES TEND TO HAPPEN ON MULTI STATION CALLS THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR MULTIPLE PIECE OF APPARATUS FOR STRUCTURE FIRES, VEHICLE CRASHES THOSE OF THINGS WE HAVE NOT FAILED TO RESPOND TO A CALL BUT WE HAVE APPARATUS THAT HAVE FAILED TO ROLL BECAUSE OF STAFFING TO COVER IT. MS. COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO THANK YOU. SHOULD WE ASSUME THAT 30% OF THIS YEAR THEN WE HAVE NOT HAD THAT ISSUE? IS THAT NO, THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M SAYING. I'M SAYING I DIDN'T HAVE GOOD NUMBERS. RIGHT. I'M DOWN THERE YOU THAT THAT'S WHAT I HAD FOR SO OKAY. THANK YOU. IT WAS GOOD CATCH. I WAS KIND OF HOPING NOBODY WOULD PICK UP THAT BUT IT'D BE SO ENAMORED WITH THE NUMBER THAT WAS IN FRONT OF RESPONSES THAT THEY WOULDN'T IT'S SO GOOD. YEAH. OKAY. I'M SORRY FOR BEING THE DATA NERD. NO, NO, NO, THAT'S GOOD. THAT'S GOOD. I WILL HAVE THOSE NUMBERS THOUGH AND WE'LL BE FILLING THOSE IN BY BY THE END OF THE YEAR. I WILL SAY THROUGH AUGUST WE WERE ON THE SAME PACE OR EVEN A LITTLE HIGHER ON THE FAILED ROLLS AND PROBABLY ON THE SAME PACE FOR ROLLING LIKE SO SO CHALLENGES SINCE ADDING MORE CAREER FIREFIGHTERS OUR RESPONSE METRIC FOR FIRST UNIT'S ARRIVAL WAS IN 7 MINUTES AND 30 SECONDS HAS REALLY IMPROVED A LOT. IT'S GONE FROM 58% TO 70% AND IN SOME OF THAT SHORTAGE IT'S STILL SHORT OF OUR 90% GOAL. BUT SOME OF THAT SHORTAGES IS THAT WE'RE ONLY ABLE TO STAFF FULL TIME THREE STATIONS OR, FOUR STATIONS FOR STATIONS USUALLY ABOUT THREE STATIONS PRETTY MUCH ALL THE TIME AND SO AND ONE OF THE THE OTHER METRICS WE HAD TALKED ABOUT WAS STAFFING FOR STRUCTURE FIRES OR MULTI-UNIT RESPONSES. SO THAT'S 7 MINUTES AND 30 SECONDS WAS A FOR THE FIRST UNIT AND WE'RE COUNTING WITH THREE PEOPLE ON IT AND STAFF INFRASTRUCTURE IS STAFFING MULTIPLE UNITS AND WE'RE TRYING TO GET 15 PEOPLE ON THE FIRE GROUND IN 11 A HALF MINUTES AND WE ARE STILL CHALLENGED WITH THAT. AS I MENTIONED A LITTLE BIT AGO. SO IN SO FAR IN 2023 OUT OF 1616 STRUCTURE FIRE SO FAR WE'VE REALLY REACHED 15 FIREFIGHTERS ON SCENE ONLY TWICE NOW I WILL SAY THAT WE'RE STILL PUTTING FIRES OUT OBVIOUSLY OTHERWISE YOU'D SEE US ON THEEWS MORE AND A LOT OF OUR SUCCESS ON THAT IS THE FACT THAT WE'VE GOT A BETTER INITIAL RESPONSE AND THAT INITIAL CREW IS EVEN IF THEY'RE SHORT THEY'RE GETTING GETTING IN AND GETTING A HOSE LINE LATE AND GETTING WATER ON THE FIRE WHICH IS WHAT HAPPENED TODAY FOR US. VERY QUICK RESPONSE THAT ENGINE CREW, THAT INDIVIDUAL GOT THAT HOSE LINE INSIDE AND GOT WATER IN THAT ATTIC FIRE VERY QUICKLY AND REALLY LIMITED THE AMOUNT OF DAMAGE THAT THAT THAT WE HAD SO SO WE'VE GOT SOME POSITIVES WITH IT B WE' GAYS TO GO AND THEN TRAINING ON NEW AND MAINTAINING EXISTING SKILLS IS IMPORTANT AND REQUIRES TIME AND ATTENTION BOTH FOR OUR CAREER AND OUR PART TIME STAFF. SO THAT'S A CONTINUING CHALLENGE AND I'VE GOT A FEW PAGES OF CHALLENGES WHICH I'M SURE YOU SAW FROM MY PRESENTATION SO PART TIME RESPONSE ATTENDANCE TO OUR STRUCTURE FIRES AND OTHER NON DUTY CREW CALLS HAS CONTINUED TO DROP CONTINUES BE A PROBLEM. SO WE ARE GOING TO MOVE ALL OF OUR PART TIME STAFF TO WORKING ON HOURS REQUIREMENT RATHER THAN A PERCENTAGE REQUIREMENT AFTER THE FIRST OF THE YEAR EXACT DATE HASN'T BEEN DETERMINED YET. WE'RE GOING TO WORK WITH PAYROLL AND MAKE SURE WE DON'T MESS UP MESS MESS UP PAYROLL. NOW THIS IS NOT GOING TO FILL ALL OUR GAPS BUT IT WILL PROVIDE SOME CONSISTENCY AND EDGE. CURRENTLY 47 OF OUR 96 PART TIME FIREFIGHTERS ARE WORKING SHIFTS HOURS TO MEET THEIR SERVICE REQUIREMENTS. SO WE'RE ONLY TALKING WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ABOUT HALF OF THE FIREFIGHTERS THAT ARE LEFT THAT WE'RE GOING TO SHIFT RIGHT REMOVING RESPONSE TIME REQUIREMENTS TO THE STATIONS AND HAVING A PART TIME FIREFIGHTERS WORK SCHEDULED SHIF ARE PNNED S AS WE RECRUIT NEW PART TIME CLASSES WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE A RESPONSE TIME METRIC FOR NEW PEOPLE COMING ON TO THE DEPARTMENT TO RESPOND TO THE STATION. IN THE PAST IT'S BEEN 4 MINUTES WHICH IS REALLY LIMITED OUR RECRUITING AND NOW WE'RE GOING TO ELIMINATE THAT BECAUSE WE'RE JUST GOING TO REQUIRE PEOPLE TO WORK SHIFTS AND WHEN WE HIRE THIS NEXT BATCH WE'RE REALLY GOING TO TRY TO SHORTEN UP THE AMOUNT OF TIME WE HAVE TO SPEND IN TRAINING THEM BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO ASK AND SEE IF WE CAN RECRUIT ENOUGH PEOPLE WHO ALREADY HAVE THEIR FIREFIGHTER ONE FIREFIGHTER TWO HAS MATCHED AND EMT CERTIFICATIONS IN HAND SO THAT WILL REDUCE OUR TRAINING TIME WITH THOSE PEOPLE FROM FROM 24 MONTHS TO PROBABLY 6 TO 8 WEEKS. SO WE'RE HOPING HOPING SOME IMPROVEMENTS IN IN HOW WE IN GETTING MORE PEOPLE INTO INTO THE SEAT QUICKER WHEN WE HIRE PART TIME OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS WE'VE GOT 28 PART TIME FIREFIGHTERS WILL BE ELIGIBLE RETIRE RICH IN THEIR 20 YEARS OF SERVICE REDUCING THAT CURRENT ACTIVE PART TIME NUMBER BY A THIRD. NOW IT'S NOT IT'S NOT APPORTIONED IN THE SENSE THAT YOU MIGHT THINK SO YOU'LL SEE ANOTHER SLIDE A LITTLE FURTHER ON THAT SAYS OR HEY THAT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S MORE THAT'S RETIRING AND REALLY WHAT IT IS WE'VE GOT A COUPLE OF YEARS WHERE WE'VE GOT A FEW RETIRING AND WE'VE GOT A COUPLE OF YEARS WHERE WE'VE GOT A BUNCH RETIRING NEED TO CONTINUE TRANSITION TO HYBRID FULL TIME PIT ON FIREFIGHTERS AND THAT'S REFLECTED IN THIS YEAR AND NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET LOOKING TO ADD SIX MORE PEOPLE OUR CURRENT PAID ON CALL STAFFING 96 CURRENT MEMBERS AND WORKFORCE PLANNING FOR NORMAL ATTRITION OR IT'LL BE FOUR BY 2026 AND OUR CURRENT DECLINE WILL NOT BE OFFSET BY THE ADDITIONAL SIX PER YEAR CAREER FIREFIGHTERS THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY PLANNING TO DO AND THE PART TIME RECRUITMENT IS STILL AN UNKNOWN FOR US SO WE CONTINUE TO STRUGGLE WITH THAT AND AS I MENTIONED IT REQUIRES EXTENSIVE TRAINING AND FOR US TO TAKE SEBODY THAT HAS NO TRAINING IT'S GOING TO TAKE ABOUT TWO YEARS JUST TO GET THEM TO THE SPOT WHERE WE REALLY WE GET THEM RIGHT RIDING TRUCKS BEFORE THAT BUT WE REALLY HAVE A LOT OF RESTRICTIONS ON WHAT THEY DO AND TRY TO HAVE A LOT OF SUPERVISION. AND IF YOU THINK ABOUT THE JOB WE'RE ASKING THESE PEOPLE TO DO TO TAKE SOMEBODY BRAND NEW OFF THE STREET, GIVE THEM TWO YEARS OF SCHOOL AND EXPECT THEM TO PERFORM AT A REALLY HIGH LEVEL AS IS NOT FAIR. MOST OF OUR FOLKS ALMOST ALL OF OUR FOLKS HAVE OBVIOUSLY FULL TIME JOBS OUTSIDE. THEY'RE PART TIME FIREFIGHTING AND FIRE THESE THESE CALLS ALL OF OUR EMERGENCIES HAPPEN AT ANY TIME OF DAY OR NIGHT. SO OUR PART TIME FOLKS GOT TO BE ABLE TO RESPOND AND THAT KIND OF MESSES UP THE REST OF THEIR LIFE. I'D BE HAPPY TO GET PAGERS FOR SOME OF YOU THAT WANT TO LISTEN TO HOW MANY TIMES THEY GO OUT AT NIGHT. I'M GOOD WITH THAT. SO NOW OKAY SO CHALLENGES EQUIPMENT AND MAINTENANCE FIRE EQUIPMENT SUCH AS TRUCKS, HOSES AND BREATHING APPARATUS REQUIRE SUBSTANTIAL INSTMES THAT YOU'LL SEE THAT IN OUR BOTH OUR LARGE AND OUR SMALL EQUIPMENT FUND MAINTAINING THIS EQUIPMENT IS ESSENTIAL NOT ONLY FOR GOOD SERVICE TO OUR CITIZENS BUT FOR THE SAFETY OF OUR FIREFIGHTERS AND OUR EFFECTIVE FIREFIGHTER OPERATIONS. OBVIOUSLY YOU ARE WELL AWARE OF WE'RE REPLACING FIRE STATIONS. WE'RE PLANNING FOR OUR SHAFER GRANT TO END IN 2026 ALTHOUGH WE DO PLAN TO APPLY AGAIN IN THE FUTURE FOR ANOTHER GRANT WITH NO REAL CLEAR VIEW OF OUR ABILITY TO BE SUCCESSFUL OF THAT. SO OUR FIRE PENSION FUND PAID ON UNCLE FIREFIGHTERS THAT SERVED FOR 20 YEARS QUALIFY FOR A PENSION AND YOU KNOW THAT BECAUSE OUR WE HAVE A FUNDING MECHANISM THAT USE WE HAVE A FUND NOT ONLY THAT FUND OF THE PENSION THAT'S RUN BY THE RELIEF BOARD BUT WE ALSO HAVE A FUND WITHIN OUR OUR BUDGET THAT WE PUT MONEY INTO TO TRY TO SMOOTH OUT THOSE SPIKES THAT WE WERE GETTING DEPENDING UPON HOW THEIR MARKET DOES AT THE END OF THE YEAR REALLY SETS UP. SO THE END OF THIS YEAR 2023 WILL REALLY DICTATE WHAT THE CONTRIBUTION FROM THE CITY IS IN 2020 524 AS WAS DETERMINED AT THE END OF OF OF 20 TWO AND AS YOU CAN SEE THAT OBLIGATION BE $2.7 MILLION AND IT REALLY HAS EVERYTHING TO DO WITH HOW THE FUND DOES AND HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE IN THE FUND. MR. RUBY THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I WANT TO JUST PAUSE HERE FOR A LITTLE BIT OF EFFECT TO HELP MAKE SOME OF THE CHIEF'S CASE ABOUT HOW THE FIRE SERVICE IS EVOLVING AND THIS IS A REALLY GOOD EXAMPLE FOR A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY ON THE BLOOMINGTON PENSION FUND. BLOOMINGTON HAS SPECIAL LEGISLATION GOING BACK TO 1964 FOR ITS FIRE PENSION. COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN HAS BEEN ON THE PENSION BOARD FOR QUITE A WHILE SO HE CAN SPEAK MAYBE EVEN MORE KNOWLEDGEABLY THAN ME ON THIS. BUT THE FACT IS THAT FOR A PAID ON CALL OR EVEN BACK THEN IT WAS A VOLUNTEER DEPARTMENT BEFORE IT WAS A PAID ON CALL DEPARTMENT. SO FOR A NONULL TIME DEPARTMENT IT'S PROBABLY THE BEST PENSION IN THE STATE BASED ON THE LANGUAGE GOING BACK 60 YEARS AND EVEN IN THAT ENVIRONMENT WHERE WE HAVE PROBABLY BEST PENSION IN THE STATE IT'S STILL VERY DIFFICULT TO RECRUIT PEOPLE INTO PAID ON CALL FIREFIGHTER SERVICE TODAY BECAUSE THE WAY THAT PEOPLE LIVE THEIR LIVES IS JUST DIFFERENT TODAY THAN IT WAS. RIGHT. WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE COMING INTO THE COMMUNITY THAT ARE LOOKING AT PERMANENCE AND IF THEY ARE THEIR FIRST THOUGHT ISN'T GEE I THINK I WANT TO JOIN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. RIGHT. SO TRYING TO ATTRACT PEOPLE INTO THE FIRE SERVICE FOR WHAT ESSENTIALLY A PART TIME GIG EVEN WITH A GENEROUS PENSION THAT YOU HAVE TO WORK 20 YEARS BEFORE YOU GET IS NO LONGER AN EFFECTIVE RECRUITMENT STRATEGY AND SO THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS THAT IT'S ONE OF THE REASONS FRANKLY THAT BLOOMINGTON HAS BEEN ABLE TO STAY A PAID ON CALL FOR SO LONG IS BECAUSE OF THAT PENSION AND AT THE SAME TIME IT'S AN INDICATION OF WHY WE'RE NO LONGER ABLE TO STAY A PAID ON CALL DEPARTMENT IS WE JUST AREN'T ABLE TO RECRUIT THAT I GET MOST OF THAT WAS PERFECT I COULDN'T HAVE DONE BETTER MYSELF AND YOU GAVE ME A CHANCE CATCH MY BREATH AND YOU CAN TELL THIS IS AN IMPORTANT TOPIC BECAUSE YOU SAID THE DOG PICTURE FOR THIS IS ABSOLUTELY I'M LEARNING SOMETHING FROM MY COMMUNICATIONS FRIENDS THERE COMMUNITY SERVICES OKAY FIRE COMMON FUND ALL RIGHT CONTINUE TO FUND FOR BOTH LARGE AND SMALL EQUIPMENT COST INCREASES FOR APPARATUS ARE SIGNIFICANT 25 TO 50% INCREASES AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT INCREASES IN IN OF 3 TO 5% BY THE MONTH NOT EVEN THE YEAR SO APPARATUS MANUFACTURERS NOW ARE BECOMING INCREASINGLY RELUCTANT SIGN LONG TERM DEALS SO THE TWO AS AN EXAMPLE THE LADDER THAT WE HAVE PURCHASED TWO YEARS AGO THAT WE HOPE TO TAKE DELIVERY ON BY THE END OF NEXT YEAR AND THE TWO ENGINES THAT WE PURCHASED EARLIER THIS YEAR THAT WE HOPE TO TAKE DELIVERY IN 26 WE COULD NOT BUY TODAY FOR THE PRICE THAT WE SIGNED THE CONTRACTS FOR SO PRICE INCREASES ARE GOING UP VERY, VERY QUICKLY IN I'VE BEEN NOTICED BY THE SOME OF OU PRIMARY MANUFACTURER THAT THEY PROBABLY WON'T BE WILLING TO SIGN A CONTRACT AGAIN TO DELIVER FIRE TRUCKS IN THREE YEARS BASED UPON THE COST OF THAT TRUCK TODAY BECAUSE THEY THEY'RE GOING TO THEY'RE GOING TO BARELY BREAK EVEN ON SOME OF THESE THESE THESE TRUCKS THEY'VE SOLD US WE KIND OF JUMPED ON THAT. I'M THERE'S NOT MANY PLACES THAT DO WE DID ALREADY ALTHOUGH THEY'RE EVERYBODY'S DOING IT NOW THEY'RE HAVING TO ORDER THEIR THEIR LARGE FIRE APPARATUS TWO AND THREE YEARS WITH TWO OR THREE YEARS EXPECTED DELIVERY SO YOU'RE GOING TO SEE US COME IN AND ASKING TO ISSUE PIANOS FOR FIRE TRUCKS. THEY'RE GOING TO BE DOING TWO OR THREE YEARS NOW THE GOOD THING ABOUT IT IS IT'S NOT A TRUE EXPENDITURE AND THAT EXPENDITURES ARE COMING OUT OF THAT FIRE EQUIPMENT FUND WILL HAPPEN IN THE YEAR THAT WE TAKE DELIVERY BECAUSE THAT'S WHEN WE PAY FOR THE TRUCK. THE THE BAD THING IS IS THAT AS WE ENTER INTO THOSE CONTRACTS WE KIND OF WE KIND OF COMMIT OURSELVES TO HAVING THAT MONEY AVAILABLE. SO THAT'S WHY IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO MAINTAIN TT FUND MOVING FORWARD IN COST INCREASES FOR SMALL EQUIPMENT HAS GONE UP SIGNIFICANTLY AS WELL BASICALLY AS YOU ALL KNOW. RIGHT EVERYTHING COSTS MORE AND THOSE COSTS ARE BEING PASSED ON AND THIS IS THAT QUICK LIST I'M MENTIONED THAT WE WERE GOING TO PUT TOWARDS OUR OUR PORTION OF THAT PUBLIC SAFETY DOLLARS. SO RESCUE TOOLS AND EQUIPMENT, MEDICAL RESPONSE EQUIPMENT, PERSONAL PROTECTIVE EQUIPMENT ,HAZARDOUS MATERIALS RESPONSE EQUIPMENT, SOFTWARE UPGRADE AND A U.S. DIGITAL SERVER UPGRADE FOR STATION LEARNING. WE AS WE BUILD NEW STATIONS WE'VE ADDED DIGITAL SOME DIGITAL ALERTING SYSTEMS INTO OUR STATIONS AND WE STILL NEED TO DO SOME UPGRADES ON THAT. THERE IS ONE PIECE BEFORE WE JUMP INTO THE WORK I'M GOING TO JUMP INTO THE WORK PLAN BUT ONE PIECE TO THAT INCREASED BUDGET INCREASE WAS ABOUT ADDING SLEEPING ACCOMMODATIONS TO STATION FIVE AND THAT'S GOING TO BE ABOUT $88,000 IF IF IF THAT GETS APPROVED WHERE WE ADD SOME MORE OF THOSE CUTE LITTLE CUBES IN ONE OF THE BAY SPACES AT STATION FIVE. ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS MAKE IT SO THAT WE CAN STAFF PEOPLE 24 SEVEN IN ANY OF THE SIX STATIONS ACTUALLY FIVE WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO ANY IMPROVEMENTS WITH TWO WITH THE EXPECTATION THAT WE MIGHT ACTUALLY GET THAT REBUILT IN 26 IF THAT DATE GETS PUSHED OUT THEN WE'LL BE LOOKING AT ADDING SOME THINGS TO TO AS WELL. ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING MARIN COUNCIL ASSISTANT IF YOU CAN JUST HOLD ON 1/2 JUST TO SEE IF THE COUNCIL HAS ANY QUESTIONS ON COUNCILMEMBER THANK YOU MAYOR SO I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY SO WHEN YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT ALL THE DIFFERENT STAFF POSITIONS SO THERE'S FULL TIME OBVIOUSLY YES, PART TIME AND YOU'RE MOVING TO SHIFTS. YES. AND THEN THERE'S THE PAID ON CALL. NO. OKAY. THAT'S WHAT I NEEDED. CLEAR. OKAY. WE PAY WE STARTED RECENTLY WITHIN THE LAST TWO OR THREE YEARS PAYING OUR PAID ON CALL PEOPLE IN HOLY RE. OKAY WE WERE PROBABLY ONE OF THE LAST ONES IN THE METRO AREA TO START DOING THAT. EVERYBODY ELSE IS PAYING AN HOURLY RATE SO WE STARTED PAYING AN HOURLY RATE AND BASED UPON THE FACT THAT WE'RE PAYING IMMORALLY THEY TRULY BEEN PART TIME PEOPLE FOR LONGER THAN THAN HAS BEEN ACKNOWLEDGED. UM MOVING FORWARD SINCE THEY'RE ALL WHAT WE CONSIDER PART TIME NOW WE'RE JUSTOING TO HAVE THEM WORK SHIFTS AT THE STATION TO STAFF TRUCKS RATHER HAVE THEM RESPOND TO A PERCENTAGE OF THE FIRE CALLS THEY COME INTO THEIR STATION. OKAY, THAT'S SUPER HELPFUL. ALL RIGHT. VERY CLEAR NOW. OKAY GOOD. YOU BET. THE ONLY OTHER COMMENT I HAVE I GUESS IS RELATED TO THE COST OF THE EQUIPMENT AND AND YOU PROBABLY CAN'T ANSWER THIS BUT IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE PROBABLY NOT THE ONLY ONES DEALING WITH THIS AND I'M GUESSING THAT CITIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY ARE THERE CONVERSATIONS HAPPENING AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL TO HELP SOLVE PROBLEM BECAUSE IF THESE COSTS CONTINUE TO INCREASE SO SUBSTANTIALLY I DON'T KNOW LIKE WHAT ARE CITIES GOING TO DO ACROSS THE COUNTRY? SO NOW RIGHT NOW THERE'S SOME I ALWAYS GET WORRIED WHEN PEOPLE START TO GET INNOVATIVE BECAUSE THAT USUALLY MEANS DOESN'T MEAN ALWAYS MEAN POSITIVE OUTCOMES. RIGHT. SO THERE ARE SOME PLACES THE COUNTRY THAT ARE GETTING INNOVATIVE AND THEY'RE DOING THINGS LIKE BUYING OLD USED TRUCKS AND THEY'RE TRYING TO DO ANYTHING THEY CAN DO PRIMARILY BECAUSE THE TRUCKS THEY HAVE NOW ARE FAILING AND IT'S GOING TO TAKE THEM THREE YEARS. THEY'RE STILL ORDERING NEW TRUCKS BUT IT'S GOING TO TAKE THEM THREE YEARS TO GET IT. I WILL YOU THAT FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS A GREAT APPRECIATION FOR THE FIRE SERVICE BUT THEIR APPRECIATION IS NOT MATCHED BY SUPPORT. YOU CAN TELL THAT BY THE FACT THAT WE'VE HAD TO FIGHT AND CONTINUE TO FIGHT TO GET THE SAFER ACT FUNDED AND AFGE ANTS ACT FUNDE EVERY YEAR WE HAVE TO FIGHT TO GET THE UNITED STATES FIRE ADMINISTRATION FUNDED AND THE YOU KNOW THE NATIONAL FIRE ACADEMY FUNDED. SO I MEAN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SOME STAFFING AND EDUCATIONAL AND AND YOU KNOW, FEDERAL LEVEL SUPPORT FOR PROGRAMS THAT ARE IMPORTANT ACROSS THE COUNTRY. I THINK IT WOULD BE VERY NICE LEAP TO GET THEM TO THINK ABOUT EQUIPMENT AND STATIONS BUT I DON'T THINK THAT'S REALISTICALLY IN ANYBODY'S ANYBODY'S WINDOW. OKAY. THANK YOU. YOU AT COUNCILMEMBER LAMONT. THANK YOU, MAYOR AND BEFORE YOU MAKE MY COMMENTS I WANT TO THANK THE BOONTON FIRE DEPARTMENT AND THEN ALSO THE POLICE. WE HAD A FIRE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD NOT TOO LONG AGO, MAYBE ABOUT A WEEK AGO OR SO AND WOW, THAT WAS IMPRESSIVE. 4 A.M. IN THE MORNING THE AMOUNT OF FOLKS THAT WERE OUT THERE KIND OF DOING THEIR THEIR WORK I WAS DOWN BY LAWN SIGN THAT I HAVE ON MY ONE I WON'T SAY WHOSE IT WAS BUT IT JUST OBSERVING SOME OF THE STUFF AS YOU GUYS WERE DOING THAT. SO AGAIN THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK. I KNOW I UNDERSTAND SOMEONE HAD GOTTEN INJURED. I HOPE THEY'RE OKAY. YES. ALL RIGHT. SO I HOPE THAT AGAIN. THANK YOU FOR THAT. SO YOU KNOW, YOU MENTIONED A NUMBER OF SLIDES FULL OF CHALLENGES AND I SEE THAT THAT IN 2026 THAT WE'D SEE A DROP DOWN TO 74 TOTAL NUMBE OF FOL IN TH WORKFORCE. YOU KNOW, I KNOW WE'VE WE'VE ASKED FOR IS IS THAT IS THAT CORRECT IT'S ONLY FOR PART TIME. PART TIME. OKAY. SO WE STILL HAVE THE THE FULL TIME THAT I'M STILL ADDING THE FULL TIME CONTINGENT AND BY 26 WILL BE 30 AND 2436 AND IF MY EVERYTHING GOES ACCORDING TO HOYLE 36 AND 25 AND 42 IN 26 COME IN . SO ADDING SIX A YEAR, SIX A YEAR ANDO Y KNOW IF WE KEEP THAT UP YOU KNOW LOW BE SOME LOSS OF OVERALL STAFFING HOURS RIGHT I MEAN IF I'M DOING MY MY COUNTING CORRECTLY AND SO YOU KNOW OTHERWISE YOU WOULD HAVE PUT THIS DOWN AS A CHALLENGE RIGHT. SO SO IF WE WERE TO TRY TO MEET THOSE STAFFING HOURS THAT WE'RE LOSING, WHAT WOULD THAT LOOK LIKE FOR THIS YEAR IF WE HAD TO ADD ADDITIONAL FIREFIGHTERS THIS YEAR AND NEXT YEAR TRY TO YOU KNOW EVEN THAT EVEN THAT AMOUNT OUT AS WE AS WE GET THERE DO YOU KNOW WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE? I KNOW I'M ASKING YOU TO DO MATH ON ON THE FLY HERE BUT THAT'S KIND OF THE WHEN I LOOK AT THAT I JUST THAT MAKES ME GO HUH THAT DOESN'T SOUND YOU KNOW IT JUST THAT CONCERNS ME SO I CAN DO SOME WORK ON IT. I AGREE WITH YOU. YOU DON'T WANT TO HEAR MY MATH ON THE FLY. I WILL SAY I GUARANTEE YOU MINE'S WORSE. I WILL SAY THAT I'M WE'RE IN THE THE DEPARTMENT'S IN THE POSITION THAT WE'RE BUILDING. SO I DON'T KNOW THAT I HAVE A CONSISTENT OURS NUMBER THAT I AM I CAN MEET OR TELL YOU THAT WE'RE TRYING TO MEET. I CAN TELL YOU WHAT IT TAKES BECAUSE WE'VE DONE THE MATH ON WHAT IT TAKES TO STAFF EACH TRUCK 24 SEVEN AND WHAT IS GOING TO TAKE US TO GET TO SIX TRUCKS SO I CAN OUTLINE THAT FOR YOU AND PROVIDE THAT TO THE COUNCIL I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH THAT. IT'S NOT REALLY INDICATIVE THOUGH OF WHERE WE'RE AT NOW BECAUSE THE REASON WE'RE YOU KNOW, WE'RE WE ADDED CAREER STAFF WAS WE WERE STRUGGLING GETTING TRUCKS OUT THE DOOR SO IT'S KIND A YOU KNOW WELL MAYBE THE BETTER QUESTION TO ASK IS YOU KNOW NOW WE'RE AT 70% YOU KNOW, AT THAT ONE FIGURE THERE. BUT WHAT WOULD THAT NUMBER LOOK LIKE IF WE WERE AT 90%? WHAT WOULD WE NEED TO DO? SO I THINK EVEN HAVING THAT LOWER THRESHOLD NUMBER BUT THEN ALSO HAVING THAT HIGHER THRESHOLD NUMBER WOULD BE A GOOD THING FOR OUR RESPONSE METRICS. YEAH. OKAY. YEAH BECAUSE I JUST I JUST I I'D HATE TO HAVE US, YOU KNOW, GET TO A STANDPOINT WHERE I DON'T KNOW YOU KNOW LOOK TO THE MAYOR SAID THIS THESE ARE ALL REAL DOLLARS SO YOU KNOW YOU KNOW WHAT MAKES SENSE YOU KNOW IN TERMS OF TRYING TO MEET THAT MEET THAT GAP, YOU KNOW AND THEN ALSO WE'VE GOT OTHER RESPONSIBILITIES TOO. SO I JUST I LOOK TO YOU MAYOR BUT THOSE ARE KIND OF QUESTIONS I HAVE CONCERNS I ASK THAT WE'RE KIND OF BUILDING TOWARDS IT AND NOT KIND OF SKIPPING OUT. GOOD QUESTIONS ALL COUNCIL MEMBER I APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THOSE UP MY TURN YOUR TURN. ALL RIGHT. SO SOME OF THIS HAS ALREADY BEEN COVERED BY CHIEF SEELBACH CHIEF STEELE MYSELF AND THE REST OF THE COMMAND STAFF PUT A PLAN TOGETHER TO KIND OF LOOK OUT THE NEXT FOUR YEARS. SO STARTING WITH 2024 AND WE GO THROUGH 2027 SO NEXT YEAR WE'RE GOING TO ADD THOSE SIX WHICH WOULD GET US UP TO A TOTAL OF 30 FULL TIME FIREFIGHTERS ON SHIFT THAT WORK 24 HOUR SHIFTS. WE'RE GOING TO PROMOTE SIX CAPTAINS AS WE'LL HAVE UNITS THAT WILL BE STAFFED WITH THOSE WITH THAT SUPERVISION. HOPE TO HIRE A CLASS OF TEN PART TIME FIREFIGHTERS AND THEN SWITCH OVER 2 HOURS. SO EVERYBODY WE'RE WORKING EVEN OUR PART TIME STAFF WILL WORK WORK SHIFTS WHICH WILL GIVE US MORE CONSISTENT STAFFING THE REST TO RESCUE TRUCKS. SO THAT'S TWO APPARATUS THAT ARE DOING 2026. WE'LL HAVE TO ORDER THOSE NEXT YEAR AND THEN WE HAVE AN AERIAL LADDER THAT WE'RE GOING TO RECEIVE LATE 2024 2025. THERE'S A LOT GOING ON HERE BUT WE GOT SIX ADDITIONAL SIX FULL TIME FIREFIGHTERS PLAN THAT TO US UP TO 36 WHICH HOPEFULLY WOULD GIVE US MORE CONSISTENT STAFFING OF FOUR RIGS THROUGHOUT THE CITY. WE'RE LOOKING AT PROMOTING A DEPUTY CHIEF OF EMS TO HELP WITH ALL OF OUR EMS TRAINING AND REGULATIONS AND THEN PROMOTE A CAPTAIN THERE BE KIND OF A RIPPLE EFFECT THERE. YOU'D HAVE TO MOVE SOMEONE UP TO BATTALION, PROMOTE SOMEONE TO CAPTAIN AND THEN ADD TWO MORE CAPTAIN POSITIONS WHICH IS SIX FROM SIX MORE PROMOTIONS WHICH WOULD GIVE US A CAPTAIN ON EACH STAFFING UNIT THREE BATTALION CHIEFS WE LOSE THAT ARPA FUNDING IN 2025 SO THEY'LL COME COME ON TO BUDGET AND THEN WE'LL START DESIGNING STATIONS TWO AND ONE FOR ANTICIPATED CONSTRUCTION IN 26 AND 27. WE'RE LOOKING AT MOVING OUR BATTALION CHIEFS TO A 24 HOUR SHIFT RIGHT NOW THEY'RE JUST ON STRAIGHT EIGHT HOU SHIFT BU WE' THEM TO 24 HOURS WE'D HAVE TO ADD A POSITION TO TO SURE WE HAVE COVERAGE THROUGHOUT THAT 24 HOURS AND THEN THE TWO ENGINES THAT CHIEF STEELE SPOKE ABOUT THAT WE ORDERED EARLIER THIS YEAR WOULD BE DELIVERED IN LATE 2025 AND THEN WE WOULD ALSO ORDER ANOTHER ENGINE FOR 2020 826 ANOTHER SIX ADDITIONAL FTE FOR WORKING 24 HOUR SHIFTS WOULD GET US UP TO 40 TO LOOKING TO PROMOTE A BATTALION CHIEF TO DEPUTY CHIEFF AND TRAINING TO SUPPORT ALL THESE THESE ADDITIONAL POSITIONS AND THEN PROMOTE THOSE CAPTAINS TO BATTALION PROMOTE FIREFIGHTER TO CAPTAIN AND THEN A PART TIME OF TEN AND 26 SO HOPEFULLY START CONSTRUCTION OF STATION TWO IN 2026 AND THEN CONTINUE WITH THE DESIGN FOR STATION ONE AND CONSTRUCTION IN 27. THIS IS THE YEAR THAT THE 18 FIREFIGHTERS WILL COME OFF THE SEA FOR GRANT IN THE FIRST QUARTER OF 2026 AND THEN 2027 . WE'RE LOOKING AT ANOTHER SIX WHICH AT THAT POINT WOULD BE UP TO 48 FULL TIME FIREFIGHTERS THAT ARE ON SHIFT WORKING 24 HOPEFULLY THAT WOULD GIVE US ENOUGH STAFF FIVE RIGS WITH FULL TIME PART TIME EMPLOYEES AND THEN STATION ONE CONSTRUCTION AND THEN ORDER ANOTHER ENGINE THAT'S DUE IN 2030. THAT'S IT. THAT'S MY PART MAJORITY OF THE INCREASE PERSONNEL COSTS. RIGHT AND IN GENERAL SERVICE COSTS AND THEN THE CAPITAL INCREASE THAT I MENTIONED IS IS ADDING 2424 HOUR ACCOMMODATIONS AT FIRE STATION FIVE COUNCIL QUESTIONS YOU MENTIONED I THINK YOU MENTIONED IN THE DISCUSSION HERE EMS RIGS ARE FOR THE WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'VE ADDED A PARAMEDIC TO OUR ENGINES OKAY WE'RE NOT PLANNING ON OR ASPIRING TO HAVE AMBULANCES. WE ARE VERY INTERESTED IN PROVIDING A VERY HIGH LEVEL OF CARE AND WE JUST ABOUT ALWAYS BETWEEN US AND PD WE ALWAYS GET THERE JUST ABOUT ALWAYS GET THERE BEFORE ARIELLA PROVIDER GOT IT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT PARAMEDICS CAN DO THAT OUR EMTS CURRENTLY CAN'T IS GIVE DRUGS FOR CERTAIN CONDITIONS AND CURRENTLY WE CARRY ALL THE EQUIPMENT WE NEED TO BE VERY AGGRESSIVE IN OUR TREATMENT OF CARDIAC ARREST. BUT THE AITION TO THAT IS SOME A HIGHER LEVEL OF HEART MONITORING AND THE ADDITION OF BEING ABLE TO PUT ON BOARD DRUGS. THE WHOLE IDEA HERE FOR US AND I'VE WORKED WITH ALLINA EMS ON THIS IS TO MAKE THE TIME ON SCENE THE AMBULANCE LESS SO WE'VE GOT THE PATIENT REALLY TREATED FOR THEIR SYMPTOMS AND PACKAGED UP AND READY TO GO SO WE CAN GET THEM ON IN THE AMBULANCE AND GET THE AMBULANCE TRANSPORTED TO THE HOSPITAL IN A MUCH MORE TIMELY FASHION TO WHERE NOW SOMETIMES YOU KNOW WE HAVE TO WAIT A WHILE WHILE THE AMBULANCE GOES THROUGH SOME PROTOCOLS. OUR MEDICS WILL BE TRAINED TO THE SAME LEVEL, SAME STANDARD AS WELL AS THE SAME BASIC CLASSES THAT THE ALLINA PARAMEDICS ARE GOING THROUGH. SO THEY'RE ALL GOING TO BE WORKING OFF THE SAME PROTOCOL PAGE. CAN CAN I ASSUME THAT THE RECRUITMENT AND RETENTION ISSUES THAT WE SEE NOT MAYBE NOT HERE IN POLICE BUT ELSEWHERE IN POLICE CERTAINLY HERE IN FIRE IS THE SAME TRUE IN THEMBULAN SERVICE AS WELL. SO I WANT TO BE CAREFUL HOW I SAY THIS I WORKED REALLY HARD TO MAKE WHAT WE DO IN THE PROGRAM WE DO ATTRACTIVE TO ATTRACT PEOPLE. I THINK I WAS SUCCESSFUL OUT IN THE FIRST ROUND WHERE WE HAD 300 APPLICANTS FOR 18 POSITIONS. I'M SORRY I WAS ASKING SPECIFICALLY ABOUT AMBULANCE CREWS AND THEY SEEING THE SAME ISSUES THAT WE'RE SEEING ELSEWHERE IN TERMS OF JUST HIRING AND RETENTION. I'M GOING TO GET TO GET KIND OF IN A ROUNDABOUT WAY OKA BECAUSE I HAD THOSE THREE OF THOSE 300 APPLICANTS A LOT OF THEM WERE PARAMEDICS THAT DIDN'T NECESSARILY HAVE FIRE EXPERIENCE OR HAD MINIMAL FIRE EXPERIENCE. THEY ARE THE AMBULANCE SERVICES ARE STRUGGLING AND. THERE IS A LOT OF FIRE DEPARTMENTS THAT RUN AMBULANCES ARE STRUGGLING. I'M NOT RUNNING AN AMBULANCE AND ALL THOSE PARAMEDIC FIREFIGHTERS WANT TO BE RIDING FIRE TRUCKS AND PROVIDING PARAMEDIC SERVICE BUT NOT STUCK IN AN AMBULANCE. GOT IT. THANK YOU. SO I'M SORRY FOR MY LACK OF PATIENCE. NO, NO, YOU'RE GOOD. YOU'RE GOOD. NOT A PROBLEM COUNSEL. ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS. WELL, THANK YOU FOR THE UPDATE. IT IS AND I WANT TO SAY SOBERING. IT'S A IT'S A KIND OF A STARK LOOK AT THINGS AND UNDERSTANDING THAT IT IS THE REQUIRED MONTHS OF A FULL TIME STAFFING A FULL TIME FIRE DEPARTMENT ARE GOING TO BE A CHALLENGE FOR FOR THIS COMMUNITY OVER T NEXT SERAL YEARS BECAUSE IF WE MOVE AS WE CONTINUE TO MOVE IN THAT DIRECTION, IT'S GOING TO BE AN INCREASED COST AND IT'S GOING TO BE SPECIFICALLY FOR THE BODIES IN THE TRUCKS THAT WE EXPECT TO ROLL WHEN SOMETHING HAPPENS. THAT'S CORRECT. SO SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT SO WELL. THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. THE INTERNATIONAL CITY AND COUNTY MANAGEMENT ASSOCIATION I TUGHT WE HNOTHER CALLER COMING IN . WE WILL WRAP UP OUR MEETING AS WE TYPICALLY DO WITH OUR CITY COUNCIL POLICY AND ISSUE UPDATE THAT'S ITEM 5.3 ON OUR AGENDA TONIGHT AND I WILL TRY TO FIND MY NOTES HERE VERY QUICKLY JUST A QUICK REVIEW OF OUR CITY LISTENING SESSION EARLIER THIS EVENING WE HEARD FROM LINDA QUINN WHO IS A NEIGHBOR OF BRYANT PARK WHO HAD A LOT OF COMPLIMENTARY THINGS TO SAY ABOUT THE PROCESS THAT IS UNDERGOING RIGHT NOW THAT IS GOING ON RIGHT NOW IN TERMS OF THE WORK TOWARD BRYANT PARK. THE BRYANT PARK FOLKS HAVE BEEN IN FRONT OF US THE LAST COUPLE OF LISTENING SESSIONS AND WE'RE LOOKING FOR A CONVERSATION LOOKING FOR MORE DETAIL, MORE ANSWERS. AND AT THE LAST MEETING WE WE MADE CONNECTION AND I THINK THEY HAD A VERY GOOD MEETING WITH OUR PARKS AND REC STAFF IN TERMS OF THE THE DESIGN OF THE PARK. AND SO I THINK MISSION ACCOMPLISHED I THINK WELL DONE THERE. I THINK I VERY GLAD THAT THE THAT LINDA AND THE NEIGHBORS WERE HAPPY WITH THAT OUTCOME AND LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT CONTINUING TO MOVE FORWARD. WE HEARD FROM TABITHA URBANSKI AND WHO CAME FORWARD WITH A HEARTBREAKING STORY ABOUT HER SON THAT SHE LOST TO THE OPIOID EPIDEMIC AND HAD A PLAN IN PLACE AND ASKED CITY TO HELP PROMOTE AWARENESS AROUND THE OPIOID EPIDEMIC AND HOW WE COULD PREVENT IT AND WE CONNECTED OR I THINK WE'RE PLANNING TO CONNECT HER WITH DR. NICK KELLY FROM OUR DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC HEALTH AND IN THE CHIEF AS WELL BECAUSE THERE IS THERE THERE IS WORK GOING ON NOW BUT I THINK SHE CORRECT IN SAYING THAT IT NEEDS TO BE AMPLIFIED MUCH, MUCH LOUDER. AND SO I WAS GLAD SHE CAME BEFORE US AND WAS ABLE TO TO BRING HER CONCERNS TO THE CITY AND AS I SAID TO HER, I APPLAUD HER FOR HER STRENGTH AND HER COURAGE TO COME FORWARD AND TO BE DOING THIS WORK BECAUSE I CAN'T IMAGINE HOW DIFFICULT IT MUST BE SO GOOD FOR HER AND THEN WE HAD A FINAL SPEAKER IN THE EVENING STEPHANIE ZIMMER CAME FORWARD AND ASKED ABOUT QUESTIONS ABOUT A CITY COUNCIL CANDIDATE AND I THINK WE WE HAD A GOOD DISCUSSION AND MADE IT CLEAR THAT IT WAS THE CITY BUSINESS IN THE THE COUNCIL CANDIDATE BUSINESS. I THINK WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP A SEPARATE AS POSSIBLE AND I THINK WE SHOULD CONTINUE TO DO THAT IN A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS AND AS AS INFORMATION BECOMES AVAILABLE TO US AS CANDIDATES, I THINK WE'LL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW AND LOOK AT THAT AS THE COUNCIL. IT'S A DIFFERENT STORY I THINK BECAUSE UNLESS AND UNTIL THIS PERSON IS ON THE COUNCIL THE COUNCIL REALLY DOESN'T HAVE ANY DIRECT INTERACTIONS AS THE OFFICIAL BODY OF THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON. SO ONCE AGAIN THOSE WERE OUR SPEAKERS, THE CITY COUNCIL LISTENING SESSION THIS EVENING I THINK WE WERE AT LEAST TWO OR IF NOT THREE OUT OF THREE NEW SPEAKERS ONCE AGAIN THIS EVENING SO WE'RE DOING WELL WITH THAT AND I APPRECIATE FOLKS COMING FORWARD AND BEING WILLING TO TALK TO US ABOUT THAT. MR. VERBRUGGE ANYTHING FROM YOUR POINT OF VIEW, MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS LAST THE ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER MR. SABLE AND I WERE BOTH AT THE ANNUAL CONFERENCE FOR THE INTERNATIONAL CITY COUNTY MANAGEMENT ASSOCIATION AND MIKE HAPPENS TO BE ON THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS. HE IS ONE OF THE MIDWEST REGION VICE PRESIDENTS. THERE ARE SIX REGIONS REPRESENTED ON THE BOARD EACH WITH THREE VICE PRESIDENTS AND WE'RE FORTUNATE THAT MIKE IS REPRESENTING OUR ORGANIZATION AND REPRESENTING MINNESOTA ON THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS. I WAS RECENTLY APPOINTED TO THE INTERNATIONAL COMMITTEE FOR ICM WHICH WORKS TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN INCORPORATE THE AI WHICH IS THE INTERNATIONAL ASPECT OF IT AND MAKING SURE THAT PROFESSIONAL MANAGEMENT IS BEING ADVOCATED FOR AND SPREAD TO OTHER COUNTRIES AROUND THE WORLD. IT WAS A REALLY GOOD CONFERENCE, EXTREMELY WELL ATTENDED. THINK IT WAS THE MOST WELL-ATTENDED CONFERENCE IN THEIR HISTORY OVER 5500 PEOPLE IN AUSTIN, TEXAS. BUT THE BIGGEST THING I WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU TONIGHT IS THAT OUR FRIENDS AT ICM ARE AWARE OF THE WORK THAT BLOOMINGTON IS DOING, ESPECIALLY IN THIS AREA OF INTERNATIONAL WORK OR EXPO EFFORTS. THE SUCCESS WE'VE HAD WORKING WITH SOME INTERNATIONAL COMPANIES RECENTLY AND SO THEY ASKED MIKE AND I TO SIT DOWN FOR AN INTERVIEW SO THEY HAVE ICM, A TV UNIT THAT INTERVIEWS LOCAL GOVERNMENT MANAGEMENT PROFESSIONALS DURING THE CONFERENCE A THEN AIRS THEM ON THEIR CHANNEL DURING THE CONFERENCE AS WELL. SO THEY ASKED ME CAN I SIT DOWN AND TALK ABOUT IT? AND I THOUGHT FOR ABOUT 3 MINUTES THAT WE COULD KEEP YOUR ATTENTION AND JUST SHARE WITH YOU WHAT WHAT WE SHARED WITH OUR COLLEAGUES AT ICM LAST WEEK AND SAFE TRAVELS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. OPPORTUNITIES ARE BLOOMING IN BLOOMINGTON, MINNESOTA, THE INTERNATIONAL OUTREACH AND PARTNERSHIPS IN BLOOMINGTON ARE SERVING AS A GREAT EXAMPLE OF THE MUTUAL BENEFITS INTERNATIONAL EXCHANGE CITY MANAGER JAMIE RUBY AND ASSISTANT MANAGER MIKE ZABEL ARE HERE IN STUDIO THIS MORNING WITH MORE ABOUT THE EXCITING THINGS ON TAP. GOOD MORNING TO YOU BOTH. GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING. ALL RIGHT, JAMIE, I WANT TO GET STARTED WITH YOU BECAUSE HAS HAD A LOT OF SUCCESS WITH THESE INTERNATIONAL PARTNERSHIPS. CAN YOU KIND OF ELABORATE OR EXPLAIN SOME OF THE KEY ELEMENTS TO A SUCCESSFUL PARTNERSHIP? SURE. WE HAVE OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS BEEN WORKING TO TRY AND DEVELOP INTERNATIONAL RELATIONSHIPS FOR BUSESS PURPOSES, FOR PURPOSES OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND ALSO TO ELEVATE BLOOMINGTON ON THE GLOBAL SCALE TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE KNOW THAT HERE THE MIDDLE OF MINNESOTA IN THE MIDDLE OF THE UNITED STATES THAT WE HAVE A LOT TO OFFER THE WORLD BOTH FROM AN ECONOMIC PERSPECTIVE BUT ALSO A SOCIAL AND CULTURAL PERSPECTIVE. WHAT ARE THE BENEFITS TO SAY, YOUR RESIDENTS IN BLOOMINGTON TO HAVE THESE INTERNATIONAL EXCHANGES AND PARTNERSHIPS? WELL, BLOOMINGTON A RAPIDLY DIVERSIFYING COMMUNITY AND RECOGNIZE THAT WE HAVE RESIDES FM AROUND THE WORLD IN BLOOMINGTON. IT GIVES THEM A VOICE. IT HELPS THEM SEE THEIR CULTURE IN THE OUTREACH THAT OUR COMMUNITY DOES AND IT ALSO CREATES A HEALTHIER ECONOMIC FOR OUR COMMUNITY BY TRYING TO CULTIVATE INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS. MIKE, CAN YOU ELABORATE ON A LITTLE BIT SPECIFICALLY THE DIVERSE POPULATION? HOW DO YOU SERVE THE NEEDS OF THAT POPULATION? SURE. BLOOMINGTON HAS HAD A SIGNIFICANT SHIFT IN OUR POPULATION FROM THE SEVENTIES WHEN IT WAS 1% PEOPLE OF COLOR TO NOW MORE THAN A THIRD OF PEOPLE OF COLOR IN THE IN THE COMMUNITY. AND WHAT WE REALLY DO IS TRY TO TRY TO TAILOR OUR SERVICES AND OUR OUTREACH TO THIS COMMUNITY SO THAT THEY CAN SEE THEMSELVES IN THE SERVICES THAT WE PROVIDE BUT ALSO HAVE GREATER VOICE. SO THE THINGS THAT THE CITY REACTS TO IS REALLY IN SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY AND RECOGNIZING THAT OUR AND UNDERSTANDING OF THEIR CULTURE ACTUALLY SENGTHENS THE BONDS FOR THESE PEOPLE WITH A DEEPER TIE TO BLOOMINGTON. WHAT IS THE FEEDBACK THAT YOU HEAR FROM RESIDENTS? I THINK THE FEEDBACK HAS BEEN REALLY POSITIVE AT THIS POINT. I THINK KNOW THAT THE SERVICES CHANGES AS OUR COMMUNITIES EVOLVE. THEY'RE SEEING THE PROGRESS THAT THEY HOPE FOR AND CREATE DEEPER TIES AND CONNECTIONS TO BLOOMINGTON. WHAT WOULD YOUR ADVICE BE THIS IS A QUESTION FOR BOTH OF YOU WHAT WOULD YOUR ADVICE BE MAYBE FOR OTHER CITY MANAGERS THAT ARE KIND OF TOYING WITH THE IDEA OF CREATING THESE INTERNATIONAL EXCHANGES? I THINK THE IMPORTANT STEP IS TO EVALUATE WHAT YOUR OBJECTIVES ARE AS A COMMUNITY AND YOU'RE HOPING TO ACCOMPLISH. IT CAN BE MANY DIFFERENT PURPOSES. SO IF YOU DO HAVE A GROWING DIASPORA COMMUNITY OR A GROWING CULTURAL DIVERSITY WITHIN COMMUNITY THAT HELPS TO BUILD RELATIONSHIPS WITHIN COMMUNITY TO RECOGNIZE THAT WE ARE NOT A MONOLITH, WE ARE NOT WE ARE NOT JUST A HOMOGENEOUS POPULATION ANYMORE. AND IT REALLY HELPS TO WELCOME PEOPLE INTO OUR COMMUNITY. IF YOU'RE TRYING TO DO IT FROM AN ECONOMIC PERSPECTIVE THEN IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO APPROACH ON A RELATIONAL BASIS, NOT A TRANSACTIONAL BASIS. AND SO A NUMBER OF YEARS NOW WE HAVE BEEN DOING THAT WITH JAPANESE AND WITH EUROPEAN CONTENT WITH OUR FRIENDS AT THE STATE DEPARTMENT BECAUSE THEY PLAYED A ROLE SOME OF THE WORK THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING AND IT ALSO HELPS TO WORK WITH THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE AND THE STATE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ORGANIZATION BECAUSE ALREADY HAVE SOME OF THOSE INTERNATIONAL RELATIONSHIPS. SO REALLY DEPENDS ON WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH. AND THEN IT REALLY DEPENDS PUTTING TIME AND EFFORT INTO BUILDING THE RELATIONSHIP. MIKE I SEE NODDING ALONG. CAN YOU ELABORATE A LITTLE BIT MORE ON THE ECONOMIC IMPACT THAT YOU'VE WITNESSED? SO I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WE RECOGNIZE IS THAT AS THE DEMOGRAPHICS SHIFT THE NEED FOR DIFFERENT JOBS, MORE HIGH TECH JOBS, SERVICE JOBS WE'RE A TOURISM BASED ECONOMY ,A TOURIST BASED ECONOMY. AND WHEN WE CAN DIVERSIFY OUR ECONOMIC PORTFOLIO WE ACTUALLY CAN SENGTHEN JOB GROWTH IN THE COMMUNITIES, PARTICULARLY UNDERSERVED COMMUNITIES IS REALLY GOING TO BE BENEFICIAL BOTH NOT ONLY NOW BUT ALSO INTO THE. WELL, YOU BOTH ARE DOING A WONDERFUL JOB. YOU'RE A SHINING EXAMPLE OF THE INCREDIBLE BENEFITS THAT CAN COME ABOUT WITH THESE PARTNERSHIPS. SO THANK BOTH FOR YOUR WORK AND FOR YOUR TIME AND WE THANK YOU FOR GIVING US THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT BLOOMINGTON WHERE OUR MISSION IS TO CULTIVATE AN ENDURING AND REMARKABLE COMMUNITY WHERE PEOPLE WANT TO BE AWESOME. THANK YOU BOTH . WELL DONE. ALWAYS GOT TO GET THE MICHIGAN STATE AND AND COUNCIL MEMBER ALSO AND I ALMOST MUFFED IT BUT YOU KNOW IT WAS IT WAS A LONG DAY BUT WE GOT IT IN THERE SO BUT I YOU KNOW, I WANT TO SHARE THAT BECAUSE FRANKLY THE REPUTATION OF THE WORK THAT BLOOMINGTON IS DOING IS SPREADING THROUGH OUR PROFESSIONAL ASSOCIATIONS. WE'RE YOU KNOW, WE'RE BEING ASKED TO SPEAK AT NUMEROUS CONFERENCES, SHARE THE SUCCESSES THAT WE'VE HAD. AND YOU I I THINK THAT OUR RESIDENTS EXPECTED BLOOMINGTON YOU KNOW, THE CITY IS GOING TO CONTINUE TO DELIVER SERVICES AND BE LEADERS AND THIS IS A WAY THAT WE DEMONSTRATE HOW WE'RE LEADERS IN THE WORK THAT WE'RE DOING. WITHOUT QUESTION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU BOTH REPRESENTING THE CITY SO VERY WELL. AND I SAY WELL THEN COUNCILOR ANYTHING TO BRING FORWARD COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN WELL I'LL ADD ONE OTHER THING AND THEN I JUST WANT TO COMMENT ON THAT. I JUST YOU KNOW GOSH, IT'S BEEN GREAT TO SEE YOU OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS HOW THE INTERNATIONAL ASPECT OF WHAT BLOOMINGTON IS DOING AND I'M JUST EXCITED TO S Y KNO WHAT WE PROVIDE TO THIS ENTIRE REGION. I JUST SAW AN ARTICLE OUT THERE AND I CAN READ IT AFTER I WAS DONE HERE. SO THIS IS TIMELY. IT TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE 20 MOST POPULAR REGIONS, YOU KNOW, IN THE COUNTRY AND MINNESOTA WASN'T ON THERE. BUT I THINK WITH THE WORK THAT WE'RE DOING HERE IN BLOOMINGTON, I BELIEVE WE'RE GOING TO BE ON THAT LIST AND MOVE OURSELVES TO THE TOP OF THAT LIST. AND SO I'M TO BE, YOU KNOW, SURROUNDED BY COLLEAGUES HERE THAT THAT HAVE CONTRIBUTED TO THAT AND BELIEVE IN THAT THAT TYPE OF WORK. SO AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR YOUR HARD WORK AND MORE WORK TO BE DONE. ONE LITTLE SMALL LITTLE THING HERE WHICH IS A REASON WHY WAS LATE TO THE MEETING TODAY A RESIDENT WANTED US TO FOLLOW UP HIS ONE OF OUR OUR PAST LISTENING SESSIONS WANT US TO FOLLOW UP ON YOU KNOW HE HAS THE WHOLE GROUP HOME IN HIS AREA AND I KNOW WE'VE BEEN A LITTLE BIT BUSY WITH THAT BUT IF WE COULD FOLLOW UP ON THAT AND THEN ANOTHER PIECE THAT HAS BEEN BROUGHT FORWARD THAT I'M JUST TO GET AN UNDERSTANDING AROUND ISHIS IDEA OF HOW MANY RENTAL PROPERTIES WE HAVE IN THE CITY THAT. I CAN'T FOR THE LIFE OF ME I COULDN'T QUOTE IT AT THE MOMENT WHEN WHEN WHEN I WAS BEING ASKED ABOUT THAT. BUT YOU KNOW, HIS CONCERN THAT THERE'S A LOT MORE RENTAL PROPERTIES HERE WHICH IS MAKING IT DIFFICULT TO HAVE AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND I WANTED TO JUST GET THAT CLARIFIED AND THEN ALSO AROUND THIS GROUP HOMES, HOW MANY OF THOSE ARE WE HAVE HERE? I JUST I REMEMBER THAT NUMBER BEING A LOT LOWER THAN THAT AND NOT CONTRIBUTING TO THAT. I JUST TO BEEALLY CLEAR ABOUT WHERE WE'RE AT WITH THAT SO BUT THOSE ARE THE THAT'S THE FOLLOW UP THAT WE NEED. SO THANK MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN JUST ONE CLARIFICATION WHEN YOU ASKED FOR THE NUMBER OF RENTALS THAT WE HAVE, ARE YOU YOU MEAN SINGLE FAMILY RENTALS? WELL, THAT'S A TRICKY QUESTION ,ISN'T IT? HOW ABOUT WE TALK ABOUT THAT OFFLINE FIGURE OUT EXACTLY THAT'S FINE OR BECAUSE I THINK THAT THAT'S RIGHT I MEAN BECAUSE IF YOU HAVE APARTMENT BUILDINGS I DON'T THINK THAT'S WHAT HE'S LOOKING AT. BUT I THINK WHAT HE'S SPECIFICALLY LOOKING AT IS WHERE YOU HAVE THE OWNER OCCUPIED PLACES THAT ARE MOVED INTO RENTAL PROPERTIES RIGHT? MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS COUNCIL MEMBER WOMAN YEAH KNOW A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO ACTUALLY ABOUT A DECADE AGO COMING OUT OF THE THE FIRST GREAT RECESSION WE SAW A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF SPECIALTY INVESTMENT FIRMS THAT WERE BUYING UP SINGLE FAMILY HOMES IN NEIGHBORHOODS AND THEN CONVERTING THEM AS AS AS ASSETS INTO RENTAL PROPERTIES AND THAT ABATED A LITTLE BIT ESPECIALLY WHEN PROPERTY INCREASES WERE PROPERTY VALUE WERE INCREASING PRETTY STEADILY I HAVEN'T HAD AN UPDATE FROM OUR FOLKS IN LICENSING OR ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH ON THAT NUMBER IN A WHILE SO WE'LL GET IT I, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR BOTH ON THE SINGLE-FAMILY RENTALS AND THE GROUP HOMES BECAUSE IT IS GOOD FOR US TO KNOW, YOU KNOW, THE PREVALENCE OF IT IN THE COMMUNITY AND IT'S FRANKLY A NICE WAY FOR US TO DO SOME OUTREACH INTO COMMUNITS AS WELL BECAUSE OFTEN PEOPLE WHO ARE RENTING IN SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS THEY ARE MAYBE LESS PERMANENT THAN PEOPLE WHO ARE OWNING PROPERTIES AND SO TRYING TO ENGAGE THEM WITH THE REST OF THE COMMUNITY IS ALWAYS SOMETHING THAT WE STRIVE TO DO COUNSEL OTHERS COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO TO THINGS WELL MAYBE IT'S NOT QUICK I APOLOGIZE IF IT'S NOT AS QUICK AS I THOUGHT IT WAS IN MY HEAD WHEN I WROTE IT DOWN SO I JUST WANTED TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT IT IS THE FIRST MINNESOTA RECOGNIZED INDIGENOUS DAY TODAY WE DO SIT ON ON LAKOTA LAND AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT OUR INTERNATIONAL PRESENCE. I THINK IT'S A GOOD SEGWAY TO ALSO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WE HAVE A STRONG NATIVE POPULATION IN BLOOMINGTON. I'M SURE IT'S GROWING AS WELL. I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO NOVEMBER. WE DO NATIVE AMERICAN HISTORY MONTH HERE IN THE CITY. THE OTHER PIECE IS JUST AN IDEA. I WANTED TO THROW IT OUT THERE AS WE THINK ABOUT 2024 ONE OF THE COMMENTS THAT I'VE BEEN I'VE BEEN DWELLING ON A LOT IS WE'VE HEARD OVER THE LAST COUPLE MONTHS IS THAT THERE'S THIS IDEA THAT PEOPLE HAVE OUT THERE THAT YOU KNOW, COME TO COUNCIL AND WE'RE ALL OF LIKE MINDED AND WE VOTE SOMEHOW ALL THE TIME AND THAT KIND OF THING AND AND I THOUGHT ABOUT LIKE WHY WHY IS THAT IMPRESSION RIGHT? AND I AND I THOUGHT WELL IT'S BECAUSE LIKE IN PART POTENTIALLY BECAUSE OUR PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD IS ALWAYS AT THE END OF THAT PROCESS. IN OTHER WORDS, WHEN PEOPLE WHEN WE DO OUR PUBLIC HEARINGS ON THESE THINGS IT'S USUALLY THE NIGHT OF AND OR THE ONE TIME BEFORE WE GO TO A VOTE IN WHICH CASEHE THREE OR FOUR CONVERSATIONS WE MIGHT HAVE HAD, YOU KNOW, OVER MONTHS PRIOR ARE NOT NECESSARILY CALLED TO ATTENTION TO THE ATTENTION OF THE PUBLIC BEYOND BEING IN THE AGENDA PACKET RIGHT. AND SO I'M WONDERING I KNOW WE HAVE THIS NOTION OF LIKE THE OPTION FOR PUBLIC COMMENT WHICH ISN'T NECESSARILY THE SAME AS A PUBLIC HEARING THAT NEEDS TO BE NOTICED BUT I'M WONDERING IF IT'S POSSIBLE FOR US TO POTENTIALLY INCLUDE THAT NOT THE CONCEPT IN OUR STUDY SESSION SPACES. SO FOR EXAMPLE IF I USE THE TRAFFIC CALMING PROJECT THAT WE DID RIGHT IF WE HAD HAD A IT AT THE SECOND TIME WE BROUGHT IT UP WE HAD A PUBLIC COMMENT OPPORTUNITY WOULD WE HAVE WOULD PEOPLE FEEL LIKE THEY HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO ENGAGE A LITTLE BIT MORE WITH IDEAS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE SO THAT SO THAT WE AS WE TABLE THESE THINGS AND PUSH THEM BACK AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT THEY'RE ALSO AWARE THAT THAT YOU KNOW WORK IS ACTUALLY HAPPENING UP HERE IN FRONT OF IN FRONT OF THE PUBLIC. SO I THROW THAT OUT AS AN IDEA JUST TO KIND OF STIMULATE A LITTLE BIT MORE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT IN THOSE STUDY SESSIONS IF WE COULD OTHERWISE THEY END UP LOOKING A LOT LIKE WE'RE ALL IN AGREEMENT. WE'VE HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS THE BACKGROUND WHICH WE HAVEN'T DONE THEY JUST HAVEN'T BEEN IT HASN'T BEEN BROUGHT BROUGHT TO THE PUBLIC ATTENTION YOU KNOW PRIOR TO SO I THROW THAT OUT THERE AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN THINK ABOUT HOW THAT MIGHT BE REJIGGERED BUT THAT WOULD BE GREAT. THANK YOU. ARE WE ABLE TO DO THAT TYPE OF PUBLIC COMMENT DURING STUDY SESSION TYPE DISCUSSIONS THAT WE WOULD HAVE? MR. MAYOR AND COUNCILMEMBERS COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO WE CAN CERTAINLY LOOK AT HOW WE MIGHTET UP PROCESS LIKE THAT. I WOULD OFFER THAT THAT'S SORT OF THE ESSENCE OF OUR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT APPROACH RIGHT? THE THE INVESTMENTS WE'VE MADE AND LET'S TALK BLOOMINGTON AND ATTEMPTS TO GET OUT AND HAVE CONVERSATIONS ON THE FRONT END OF POLICY DEVELOPMENT IS ATTEMPTING TO THAT SO YOU KNOW WE CAN MAYBE AS WE LOOK FORWARD TO NEXT YEAR AND TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THE COUNCIL WANT TO DO IF WE WANT TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION CERTAINLY OPEN TO THEM. WELL, IF I MAY FOLLOW UP REALLY QUICKLY, THAT'S A REALLY GOOD POINT. MR. WEAVER, I THINK THAT YOU KNOW SO IT COULD BE A COMBINATION OF THINGS MAKING MAKE MAYBE MAKING IT AWARE IN STUDY SESSION THAT YOU KNOW WE'RE OPENING THE THE THE COMMENT PERIOD ON LET'S TALK RIGHT AND WE LEAVE IT OPEN FOR THE ENTIRE DURATION OF THE STUDY THE STUDY PERIOD AS OPPOSED TO 30 DAYS OR WHATEVER WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW OR WHATEVER. SO THAT MIGHT BE A BETTER WAY TO LOOK AT IT. I'M JUST THINKING IT DOES SEEM LIKE THERE'S A DISCONNECT IN THE PUBLIC PERCEPTION OF OF THE WORK THAT WE DO AND. I THINK IF WE COULD HIGHLIGHT IN WHATEVE WAY I POSSIE THE THE EVEN IN YOU KNOW, EVEN IF IT WAS IN THE BLOOMINGTON BRIEFING THAT THESE WERE THE STUDY SESSIONS THAT HAPPENED DURING THIS MONTH AND HEAR THE DISCUSSIONS AND HERE'S WHERE YOU GO TO PUT YOUR COMMENTS IN OR WHATEVER I DON'T KNOW THERE'S JUST IDEAS THERE THAT ALONG THE WAY WE COULD PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT MORE INSIGHT AND A LITTLE BIT MORE OPPORTUNITY OR AWARENESS OF OPPORTUNITIES FOR FEEDBACK. THANKS COUNCILMEMBER LONG SOMETHING TO ADD. YEAH NO I I I THINK CONCEPTUALLY YEAH I LIKE THE IDEA. I THOUGHT I HEARD YOU SAY THAT ,YOU KNOW, MAYBE YOU HAD THE FIRST STUDY SESSION AND THEN MAYBE THE SECOND ONE BECOMES MORE OF A SECOND TIME IT COMES BACK IT BECOMES DISCUSSION PIECE OF IT WHICH I THINK IS YOU KNOW AGAIN I LIKE THE CONCEPT THE IDEA I THINK I KIND OF CHUCKLED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT IS PART OF OUR RATIONALE OF MOVING THE STUDY SESSION TO BEING MORE TRANSPARENT THING WAS TO TRY TO TO GET IN FRONT OF THAT SO I DO FIND IT KNOW IT'S FUNNY I DO HEAR FOLKS SAY EXACTLY THAT STILL NOW AND SO IT'S KIND OF YOU KNOW WHEN DOES THIS AND I SAY WHEN DOES IT END BUT YOU KNOW BUT WHEN BUT WHAT CAN WE DO TO IT TO REALLY YOU KNOW, ELEVATE IT, YOU KNOW, SHORT OF MAKING THE DECISION ON THE SAME NIGHT WHICH SCARES ME EVEN MORE BECAUSE THEN YEAH, YOU SEE ALL THAT YOU KNOW THE THE SAUSAGE MAKING GETTING MADE RIGHT THERE. SO I THINK WE JUST WE NEED TO BE CAREFUL BUT I STILL LIKE THE CONCEPT OF TO STRIVE FORWARD TO TRY TO FIND A DIFFERENT WAY TO HAVE THAT DIALOG ABOUT THAT I LOVE SO SO AND THAT HELPS BUT AT COUNCIL ANYTHING ELSE IF NOT MATT GET YOURSELF READY OVER THERE. SO I JUST WANT TO SAY WE'RE GOING TO WIN TWINS WE'RE GOING TO SCORE NOW MATT WITH WE GO HOMER HANK THERE YOU GO. YOU GO. THERE YOU GO. THANK YOU WE BELIEVE SO LATE LAST WEEK LESS LAST WEEK FOUR OF US FROM THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON WERE PART OF THE INNER CITY LEADERSHIP VISIT. WE WENT DOWN TO PHILADELPHIA AND IT WAS MYSELF, FAITH JACKSON AND CARLA HENDERSON AND HOLLY MUSIC AND GREAT CONVERSATION IN THE INNER CITY LEADERSHIP VISIT IT'S AN ANNUAL VISIT TO ANOTHER CITY SPONSORED BY THE MINNEAPOLIS AND THE SAINT PAUL CHAMBERS OF COMMERCE TO SEE HOW OTHER CITIES ARE DOING AND DOING THINGS WELL OR DOING THINGS POORLY. AND IT'S IT'S A GROUP OF 60 OR 70 ELECTED APPOINTED LEADERS, BUSINESS LEADERS, NONPROFIT LEADERS FROM ACROSS THE TWIN CITIES AND IT'S ALWAYS IT'S ALWAYS A GREAT TRIP. AND ONE THING THAT WE DID SEE WHEN WE WERE THERE WAS THAT IN PHILADELPHIA THAT THEY'VE GOT ACROSS THE DELAWARE RIVER FROM DOWNTOWN OUT IN THE MIDDLE OF A HUGE PARKING LOT THEY'VE GOT THEIR ARENAS, THEY'VE GOT THEIR FOOTBALL STADIUM, THEIR BASEBALL STADIUM AND THEY'RE THERE MULTI-USE HOCKEY BASKETBALL AND THE REASON I BRING THIS ALL UP WE WERE ALL AGREEMENT THA YOU LOOK AT A GREAT BASEBALL STADIUM AND IT'S DOWNTOWN AND I LOOK AT OUR BASEBALL I LOOK AT TARGET FIELD DOWNTOWN AND IT'S A PERFECT STADIUM I THINK IT'S FANTASTIC AND I SAY THAT JUST AND I SAY THAT AS THE MAYOR OF A CITY WHERE THEY USED TO HAVE THE BASEBALL STADIUM OUT IN THE MIDDLE OF A BIG ACREAGE OF PARKING LOTS. BUT TO SEE THE TWINS SUCCESS OVER THE PAST FEW WEEKS AND TO SEE THE EXCITEMENT DOWNTOWN AND TO SEE THE VIBRANCY GOING DOWNTOWN AGAIN IS IS HEARTENING BECAUSE WE WE ABSOLUTELY NEED IT. AND WHEN I SAY WE IT'S THE THE ROYAL WE ALL NEED A STRONG AND VIBRANT AND ACTIVE MINNEAPOLIS AND I'M THANKFUL FOR THE TWINS FOR THEIR THEIR WINNING WAYS AND VERY GLAD TO SEE THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE DOWNTOWN ENJOYING IT WHETHER IT'S AT THE GAME OR AS MATT WAS AT AN EMPTY STADIUM WATCHING THE GAME ON THE BIG SCREEN TV WELL DONE. YOU KNOW YOU DON'T HAVE TO BUY THE $20 NACHOS MATT WHEN YOU GO THERE YOU DON'T HAVE TO YOU'RE NOT REQUIRED TO. BUT I JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT ALL UP KIND OF IN THAT CONTEXT SAW ANOTHER EXAMPLE IN ANOTHER CITY AND THAT'S ONE WAY TO DO IT. BUT I THINK OUR WAY OF DOING IT HERE IN THE TWIN CITIES IS SO MUCH BETTER TO HAVE OUR ARENASN THEOWNTOW AREAS IS IS JUST SUCH A MUCH BETTER WAY OF DOING IT BECAUSE OF THE VIBRANCY IT BRINGS TO THE REGION. SO JUST IN AN EDITORIAL COMMENT AS WE PUSH 9:00 HERE ON A MONDAY NIGHT. ALL RIGHT, ANYTHING ELSE COUNCIL? IF NOT I WOULD ENTERTAIN THE MOTION TO ADJOURN SO MOVED WE HAVE A MOTION IN THE SECOND TO ADJOURN TONIGHT. NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I I OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO THANKS MUCH FOR THE COUNCIL DISCUSSION TONIGHT THANK YOU TO THE STAFF THANKS TO EVERYBODY TUNED IN . HAVE A GOOD REST OF YOUR WEEK