good morning welcome to the glendale city council budget workshop session of february 16 2021 the meeting is called to order i will now conduct an attendance roll call please signify by saying president council member al domin council member clark here council member of malnour president council member tom cha here council member turner president i'm here and mayor wires is excused ms bauer we please introduce item one fiscal year 2122 budget workshop good morning mayor vice mayor members of the council uh here to lead off today's workshop number two on cip we'll turn it over to lissette camacho our director of budget and finance good morning mayor members of the council today is our second budget workshop on capital improvement plan it's also the second budget workshop on general obligation bond-funded capital projects the first item on our agenda is to go through the follow-up items from the february 2nd budget workshop then we'll go through the projects for general obligation bond funded projects for parks and recreation cultural facility open space and trails and general government then at the end of the presentation we'll open it up for council feedback and questions before we move on to the presentation i just want to make sure that city council has the correct draft cip binders with them and if you could take out your binders if you look at the tab under airport the first document that you should see is a change document does everyone have that changed document and the correct binders it looks like everyone has the correct binders as i said today is the second budget workshop and capital improvement plan and also the second budget workshop on geo bond funded capital projects on february 4th we sent electronically to the city council the updated budget calendar the yellow worksheet and a report on the growth in property tax valuation on february 10th we sent an electronic copy of the updated cip binders as well as new binders for the city council that included the estimated carryover and the project change summary document we also had a follow-up item on the economic development violet language this valid language was approved by the voters in the 1999 election the remaining voter authorization is about 22 million and the bonds could be issued for promoting new private sector job creation through development and redevelopment within the city of glendale including land acquisition to be used for public or private partnerships constructing infrastructure for future business parks and acquiring land and interest they're in as may be needed for such purposes the next follow-up item we had was on the food tax or food for home consumption the tax rate for food tax is 2.5 percent 1.9 percent goes to the general fund 0.1 percent goes to public safety for police and fire and 0.5 percent goes to transportation each point one percent of tax is generating approximately 658 000 in revenues a reduction of 0.1 percent would equal a dollar for a hundred thousand in food purchases and food purchased by food stamps or ebt are exempt from the tax we are proposing a new change moving forward with the budget process which is on this slide we will be presenting and discussing sales tax annually when we present the five-year forecast similar to what we do with the secondary and primary property tax so when we do the five-year forecast we'll provide city council information on the major business categories like retail sales food for home consumption restaurant and bars construction retail sales over 5000 amusement and hotel and motel as you can see in the middle column here you have the tax rates and then we also have the point one percent of revenue generated by um by the various business categories vice mayor yes council member thank you vice mayor um let's set miss camacho a question for you on the follow-up items what is your is the intent is clear for the for the sales tax but for the food tax what was what is your intent on having discussion with council on that item is that just you're just showing it to us today and we're going to discuss it later is that open for discussion today mayor members of the council um council requested information on the 0.1 percent of the food tax and how much revenue it's generating which we provided here on this slide i believe council will have discussion on on the um the food tax itself but uh it's you know up to council on the discussion and the feedback so i don't want to take over the meeting but was your intent to have a discussion later or are you just hoping to do it now mayor members of the council that that's at your discretion to go ahead and do that if you'd like to do that this would be a fine place to do it okay well thank you so much i appreciate you bringing the follow-up items and vice mayor if i may continue um thank you for bringing this back this this looks a lot different than one would expect so an individual would save one dollar per 1 000 in food purchase that doesn't seem like a big impact to a family or an individual but holistically as citizens they see a 658 000 revenue reduction in the city budget as a whole so that looks enticing so i'd like to ask my fellow council members what their thought is in reducing it now changing that to half of that do we do it later and rather looking at the dollar you say per thousand is is the lump sum of 658 from the total budget vice mayor i'll yield hopefully members of the council will chime in okay anyone else right now thank you i'll speak up um i'm open to having the discussion but i think probably we need to have a better idea we haven't even seen the budget yet so until we've actually looked at the budget i would prefer to wait and see where we are you know i want to i want to look at the whole picture before we have that discussion at least i'd be more comfortable myself doing it that way thank you here yes go ahead i would agree with that sentiment that i think we need to see if if we decide to move forward and reduce the sales tax by say 0.1 percent and then we do it again maybe later that we know where that money is going to be coming from in other words we're reducing our budget uh by 658 000 and there's um the general fund gets the bulk of that but so do uh uh some of the other areas and so we i think we need to kind of know maybe we can decide it now that we would like to move forward at that discussion and have staff provide us some scenarios of where that money would come from if we decide to move in that direction because i think that's critical where we're going to cut budget in order to accomplish the the cut in the sales tax thank you anyone else right now yes i do have a question on um on the food tax specifically on slide six um is that how it's allocated you show one percent one point nine percent of the general fund point one percent of public safety and a half a percent to uh transportation that's how the food tax is allocated within the budget is that what that slide is showing us um or that's mayor members of the council i'm sorry vice mayor members of the council yes that is correct out of the 2.5 percent 1.9 percent goes to the general fund 0.1 percent goes to public safety and the 0.5 percent goes to the transportation okay thank you vice mayor yes councilmember clark following up on that if we were to decide to reduce by point one could we direct that it be reduced only in general fun yeah that's my question vice mayor members of the council yes um i believe it would only be on the general fund the 1.9 percent because the 0.1 percent and the 0.5 percent for public safety and transportation were approved by the voters very good thank you vice mayor yes thank you vice mayor yeah and i concur with the council members who spoke with regard to at the appropriate time for the discussion so i would ask city manager if you would uh get with your staff and find out at which point is it appropriate where we see a much larger picture of where the dollars are coming from how it impacts the budget but also impacts the citizens so but in this budget season but just when at what time so we don't pass it is that does that make sense okay anybody else ready go ahead and move forward the next slide is um what's in your book so what i'll do is just go through the binders that you have i wanted to point out that the clp summary by project tab is the first step you that you'll see and that's on page one so what you'll see on on this tab is that you have the project name so you have it by the various project type airport arts drainage then you see a column for the carryover and then the budget for fiscal year 22 23 and so on for the 10-year cip the next thing that you have is the cip summary by funding source and that is your second tab and it's on page three and what you'll see in this worksheet is that you have the funding sources for example the general government capital projects that's the pay as you go then you have herf transportation grants then you also have arts commission other grants and very similar to the last tab you'll have the carry over estimates and then you'll have the budget for fiscal year 22 23 and so on for the 10-year cip then after these two tabs you'll have various tabs by the project types so you have airport arts drainage facility maintenance i will point out and have you look at parks so if you open up the parks tab the first thing you'll see is a summary of project changes the very first column is the the project number the fund and the fund names are your funding sources and then you have the project name so the first one is parks master plan update then you have a column for budget change so for this project there wasn't any change to the um the budget no change at all to the project so you'll see in the change column no change and there's no explanation for the change but if you go to the middle of the page this specific project rose lane park improvements it is one of the projects that we'll be discussing today it's bond funded the budget change it increased by 970 000 and it is a new project and you've seen the explanation of the change um in the fiscal year 21 cip we had a large placehold holder budget for ground and irrigation and now we've broken that budget out and identified specific projects for parks so after the um the project changes you'll see a summary on page 99 summary by project so you'll see the first column as again the project number and you'll see the project name and then very similar to the summary pages that we saw you have a carryover then the project budget for fiscal year 22 23 and so on and again you'll have a summary by funding source and that's on page 109 i'm sorry 104 i believe 103 sorry so then you'll see the funding source then you you have the parks construction the second one is what we'll be discussing today that's fun 40 50 you have the carryover and then the budgets for fiscal year 22 23 and so on for the 10-year cip and beginning on page 104 is where you'll see the specific details for each project so what you see in here is the parks master plan update you'll have a project description project justification and this one you see the category the very first column this one has carryover only and it doesn't have any budgets for additional funding for fiscal year 22 and 23. it's just carry over from the prior year yes councilman thomas thank you i'm going to stop you here if i could on a park summary by funding source um where's the glenn glenn lakes money being included in the budget is it general government capital is that all bond uh what what we have left in in general obligation bond capacity i'm just curious where the i know we had multiple conversations about the glenn lakes money being directed through city-wide parks so i just want to know how to identify it in here vice mayor members of the council there's no specific projects for glenn lakes so the proceeds for for glen lakes i'm assuming for the sale of glenn lakes that went into general fund and the projects have not yet been identified but the proceeds did come in so it would be considered as pay as you go as we go through discussions on how you know the proceeds will be used okay how do i identify how do i identify pay as you go on page 103 then vice mayor members of the council the the fund 1080 is your pay as you go by members of the council it's the first line of that page where it says general government 1080 general government capital projects that's pay as you go capital okay i can i guess i can wait for the rest of the questions till we get to parks um how much do you know off the top of your head carry that's carried over it says shows as a carryover mayor vice mayor members of the council that carry over are the projects that have been event identified for the um the fund balance strategy in which we funded various projects in parks including the community services so they will be broken out in the the projects here and mr burke will be going through each individual project and we can point that out as we go through he goes through the presentation okay vice mayor if i could i'm still a little confused though because you said projects hadn't been identified for the proceeds of the glenn lake sale and then you just said that these are carryover for projects parks projects that had been identified so i guess what i'm trying to understand is has there been an infusion in capital projects for parks various parks projects that are a result of the proceeds of the glen sale of glenn lakes vice mayor members of council councilman chalmette job the we just recorded the sale of glenn lakes into general fund it's then reflected in the general fund under reserve fund balance we had that discussion then in uh last fourth quarter about strategies of what to do with it so it doesn't go towards bond fine you know bond obligation it was just really revenue that came in what we've had the discussion is from a policy level that you should you know it's always a good practice to use one-time revenues for one-time capital versus using one-time revenue for ongoing expenses because then eventually you have to figure out a way to figure the ongoing nature of it so it was just recorded when you received the 27.8 million i think roughly excess fund balance over the 50 million gold the council has that reflected the revenues from the sale of glenn lakes or did we actually record it then is that correct vice mayor members of the council mr phelps uh it was recorded this fiscal year yeah so it wasn't in that ending balance from last year but it was recorded during this year correct so thank you all right thank you so i under i understand all that but what i'm trying to i'm trying to identify is i think the council made it clear that it was our intention to invest that take that money and reinvest it in parks and i mean a lot of the stuff i mean capita i think that fits the description of capital investment over 50 000 and a life of 10 years or longer of playground equipment and things like that that you know i mean we all have a lot of needs within our district that we can identify so i'm i just i guess what i want to know is is that six and a half million was it included in your what you're going to be presenting to us in capital investments in our parks that's what i want to know vice mayor uh council member uh tommeltroff can you give us a moment to just discuss this amongst ourselves hmm thank you i'm sorry for the taking the extra time but we want to get this right so it's my understanding that when we did the fund balance discussion the it was an anti-participation of the sale of glenn lakes and so the pay as you go capital does include that um but we will look into that make sure that that's correct and get back to you on that and with that i'll turn over to presentation to miss lindsay vice mayor members of the council uh for the presentation today we will be going over the overview of the general obligation bond cip the the slides for these include projects that have previously been in the cip and that are within existing bond authority they also have staff recommended projects that are within existing bond authority and then additionally staff recommended projects that are outside of existing bond authority which would require another bond election uh at the end of the presentation we will be able to discuss prioritizing the projects through use of the yellow worksheet which was sent to you last week i believe again capacity refers to the amount of debt we can issue while keeping the secondary property tax levy flat and authorization refers to voter authorization to issue the debt and then we will also look for council consensus on projects yes councilman mclaren this is a good time to ask this question how much debt capacity do we have within this budget budget we are currently reviewing how much is the total amount of debt capacity vice vice mayor councilmember clark give us just a second and we'll look that up and give you that information and then while you're looking that up please tell me if all of that debt capacity has been expended by staff staff suggested or recommended projects either previously approved or submitted within this year's budget what i'm trying to find out is is there any debt capacity left should a council member want to suggest a project to be included this year in this year's budget or if council consensus wants to move a project up that's listed in the cip but maybe in and out year is there any capacity left so that council might do so vice mayor members of the council for fiscal year 22 we have capacity to issue debt of about 30 million with while keeping the levy flat okay um and how much is suggested of that 30 million within this budget is either previously approved or suggested for this year vice mayor members of the council let us get back to you with that information okay because i think that's critical for this council to know do we have the ability to suggest anything because the usual answer we get is okay you can move something up but you're going to have to bump something else back so i would like to know that staff reserved a little bit of debt capacity for city council city council's use in making suggestions thank you mayor i mean vice mayor members of the council if i may um what would be helpful i think for the staff is if there are those kinds of requests to move things up and or move things back if council would let us know and then we can do that analysis every one of these movements of a project depending on its funding source depending on the amount of bond authority and depending on a number of other factors may or may not be able to move uh because of effects that go on down the line after that so it's not as simple as just saying well we have an extra 5 million here or there it requires analysis on our part and so there may be some capacity and if there are projects that council would like to move forward we could look at that for you and give you that analysis miss rios i'm not talking about just moving projects forward i'm talking about if there is an introduction of a new project previously not listed on the cip do i have one no but it would be nice to know even though we don't know what the funding source is at this point if there is any debt capacity remaining for council to consider then if we know that and if any of us have projects we'd like to introduce then you can do that analysis and say yes it's possible or no it's not possible but at least give us a number to allow us to think about it and see if there's anything out there that that we consider critical enough to add to the cip i understand about the moving up you move something up something else gets bumped back but i would like to know and be reassured that all of this 30 million debt capacity no matter what the funding source at this point was not consumed in projects recommended by staff that there was some debt capacity left that's where i'm headed thank you okay councilman thomas i could just to add on to what council member clark just said and i understand your issue but our issue as an elected body is these discussions have to be had in public so it has to be included somewhere in a workshop early enough for us to have an opportunity to weigh in we can't have these discussions any other in any other format so with open meeting law this is the format where these discussions have to happen so you know i guess going forward they need to be included an opportunity for that included early on if that's what works better for you but we can't have these discussions among ourselves it has to be in a public meeting thank you can we proceed uh this pie chart represents the draft 10-year cip by funding source uh the change that this chart has changed slightly from when you saw it back on february 2nd the the draft carryover is now included as part of this chart uh today we will be discussing the general obligation bond portion of the draft cip as you can see in this slide this just indicates what we're going to be discussing today and again it's parks and recreation cultural facility open space and trails and government facilities pay as you go which is 158 million and 13 percent of the budget transportation sales tax at 124.6 and 10 percent of the budget her 50 million uh trans excuse me development impact fees at 30 million and grants at 27.5 million those are part of the budget workshop that we're going to have on march 2nd and then enterprise funds which are the largest portion of the cip at 485 million or 38 percent of the cip will be discussed on the meeting at mark on march 16th this slide represents the existing geo bond voter authorization by category the four categories that we are discussing today are highlighted on this slide uh you will see an ordinance for the general obligation series 2021 bond issuance that is going to come before you on the february 23rd voting meeting and with that we'll start going into the parks and recreation general obligation fund cip projects uh the parks and recreation voter authorization has a remaining voter authorization of about 14.3 million it was approved in 2007 and projects that qualify for parks and recreation bonds are for planning and constructing new parks and recreation facilities city-wide and further including but not limited to new swimming pools and indoor and outdoor multi-sport recreation centers planning constructing adding to and renovating existing parks and recreation buildings and facilities furnishing and equipping such buildings and facilities and improving the grounds thereof and acquiring land and land and interest therein as may be necessary for such facilities and purposes and with that i'll turn the presentation over to mr burke thank you vice mayor members of the council so there's been a couple years in in preparation to bring you this presentation today we've done a lot of analysis of the park system inventory assessment we've used consultants we've used our own staff we've been out to all the facilities my playground inspectors went through every playground in the system and evaluated them made recommendations and then we tried to build a program that does a couple of the following things addresses some of the major parks in every part of the city addresses the oldest parks in the city so we you'll see there's a lot of parks in this plan we're trying to get the oldest facilities touched early on or through this five-year plan it is not every single thing that every park needs in the city of glendale this is trying to hit some of the highest priorities we have 30 plus new projects 28 of them are lighting new lighting to get to the led lights which we think will freshen up and make the parks feel a lot safer and a lot newer six irrigation projects to update the irrigation systems and then a number of projects that we think will over the next five years involve the council and the community and a lot of ribbon-cutting opportunities including 19 court refurbishings at 10 parks and 40 playgrounds at 24 parks i think we need to go back one i'm sorry yeah so this one this program is already for heroes lake has already been approved by the council of 4.2 million dollars and is within the existing authority next so fiscal 22 and 23 there's a number of projects that are listed here for two points almost 2.8 million dollars these are new projects that we're bringing to your attention and this go ahead and then 24 and 25 the list continues and we'll go through these individually here in a moment for 3.5 million and then 26 through 31 an additional 1.8 million dollars of new projects for a total of eight million dollars of new projects vice mayor yes councilmember i do have one question according to the park's master plan assessment which we've never seen by the way i would certainly love to have a copy of it and i'm sure other councils members would as well apparently there's nothing in the yucca district that needed anything there's no park in the yucca district mayor vice mayor members of council there are projects in the yucca district in the total cip again this is just the general obligation bonds parcc master plan i believe we presented the findings report to the council last fall i have the final draft on my desk we'll be reviewing it with the manager this week and scheduling a workshop with you in the very near term to show you the final recommended plan okay um just an fyi it might have been helpful to see the final version of the master plan before we reviewed all this it's like putting the cart before the horse thank you all right thank you vice mayor i just have a quick question mr burke so the are the is a prioritization of these projects based on the the park's master plan it is in part it's also based on our assessments and our staff evaluations and combined all those and then tried to make a distributed end result plan that gets all across the city and gets a number of park projects uh would it be possible to have these like uh use our gis and program i'd love to have a slide that maps these and shows me where they are so at least maybe in the future or something because i don't know i don't know where all these parks are and if i have to look them up one at a time then i'm not paying attention so um i think it'd be helpful for all of us to know exactly where in the city all of these parks are thank you that's a great suggestion we'll work on being able to do that in the near future as i go through the individual detail sheets i'll mention for you which council district they are because i know you won't know all of them that aren't just in your district or the one immediately adjacent to you that helps and then this group of projects would need they're all new projects you can see that the infrastructure one is still that large item that was held from last year the 40 million dollars we haven't detailed out those projects yet and the regional build out for heroes which is in the out years and the sierra verde park improvements these would all require council approval and additional voter authorization vice mayor yes council member um this is an item that i brought up the other day that i still would like council to consider we know that heroes regional park build out is in the last five years and and literally it could be done after i'm dead i'm serious about that um what i would like to see happen knowing that that it's in the out years and it's unfunded is there is still the issue of heroes park library expansion if there is any and that's one of the reasons why i asked if there was any additional debt capacity that council could consider is i i would like to see um somehow or another funding an expansion so we can get a community meeting room that's larger at the heroes park library sometime within the next five years yes we're being annoying but we do have a lot of questions do you have or could you send us the a breakdown i mean heroes park build out part of that is a community center part of that there's a lot of things in that 46 million dollars that are a lot of so and i i understand the need uh for more meeting space in the yucca but i hate to spend money expanding the library maybe if we knew how much the community center part of it was we could move that up instead and not i mean we don't have to move up the whole 46 million dollars to get a community center i guess is my point so maybe if we could have a little bit more detail there we might be able to find a way to move that up the council members are agreeable to that anyway i do have a breakdown very high level the three major elements of that completion of the park is the community center the aquatics complex and then the general park development the remainder of that park we'll put that together and get it to you all to consider vice mayor yeah yes thank you um so similar to councilmember tomlichoff's comment i would hope that staff would bring back data that supports a larger space not just in the yuck edition as ms clark is asking for but if we were to ask that anywhere else so if you have data that supports that there's a need for a larger space for a community center then you bring that as well so that will help us make that decision whether or not we need to move it up or add more dollars to that project to create a larger space please thank you sir vice mayor i would like to at least partially respond to councilmember aldama there have been for example children's events at heroes where moms and kids have had to be turned away because the one meeting room that has a maximum capacity of 30 people that's all we've got was filled so i do know that that library staff has had to turn mobs and kids away because the room was already filled i had i attempted to have one meeting in that room i had 60 residents they didn't they wouldn't fit we had to move it outside and that's the problem that the the one there's only one meeting room its occupancy is 30 persons and it's just not large enough thank you councilmember turner uh thank you vice mayor i was thinking along the same lines as councilmember aldama about maybe if we could have some data that showed demand and how much the rooms are used in other libraries and also maybe a sense of what the community center uh is it just additional meeting rooms we're looking at or are there you know we're looking at other equipment that we should be considering as well in this we have to consider how often a space is going to be used as well as you know that when we try to prioritize this and make sure that we're meeting the the most frequent demands not not just the largest demands thank you mr vice mayor who said that yeah the masked man here thank you vice mayor um councilmember clark thank you for for responding to that um i feel that the data when it does come back would actually support your request and therefore we would probably have more space than you need but i think that it'll help me as an individual support that ask if the data come back comes back and suggest that we need it and if it does it then it also supports us and the reason why we don't the problem with the yucca district is it's it's aged but it doesn't have a lot of community centers for example i i choose o'neill park i choose um the community center on ocotillo or the library so there's a lot of areas i can choose from to have meetings yours has become a hub the hero's park has become a hub for that so i think it's great to be able to use that space but i'm not suggesting that we don't do it and i'm not asking for the data to support not doing it more of if it's needed then yeah let's do it i just want to be clear about that thank you vice mayor vice mayor i would also in response say that is the only meeting space within the yucca district and our population has doubled since 2010 and that that's it we have no other meeting space unless you want to rent out space at a local school thank you councilmember turner okay to be brief that's what i was going to say that i do in my district a lot of times is i just collaborate with the local school and use the larger spaces that they have available and oftentimes that's even more convenient for the residents for local issues and gives me a chance to move like my district meeting for instance around the district and as opposed to having it in one location but let's we should look at this holistically and make the decision thank you city manager mr vice mayor members of the council so currently in your in your five-year plan there is no project that's been identified to expand the heroes park library it hasn't been scoped out hasn't been researched in terms of you know need because the the the cip is your plan so when we say how much you know can we move something up first question would be how much should we set aside we've not scoped it is it a is it a 2 000 square foot room addition is it a 10 000 square foot addition so we don't have it we don't have a project and we haven't even done the work on the needs assessment because what we're working on are the things within your that's what we're that's what our direction is to put our energy into so what i would recommend would be this the appropriate place to do it would be to put it to give give indication during this process that somewhere within either the first five years the first three years the first 10 years or the 10 years of your cip we'd like to see what a project would look by look like to expand the library then we can start working on on the on the local need and try to come up with a budget on it but we haven't been given direction to do that and then what we'll have to do is when we slot that in there we'll need to figure out what gets pushed out or what can be scoped downward to free up the available capacity so it's not that we don't want to do an expansion of the hero spark library we haven't really been given direction as a staff to work on it given that direction we'll be glad to scope that out and to look for ways that we could finance that which is what our job is to do is to kind of come up with a financing plan that meets the priorities and the recommendation or the the decisions that the council makes thank you vice mayor that's that was the reason why i mean i don't know that we've actually said an expansion of the library and i i mean i don't think we at least my opinion is and i don't know what council member clark thinks that she's looking for meeting space it doesn't have to be an expansion of the library if we could move up the community center which is already part of the park's plan that's why i asked for the information like what what what do we what is the dollar amount we don't need to move up the whole 46 million dollars to move up the timeline on a community center i feel like it would be wiser to do it that way so deliver something that's already part of the plan then add a room onto the library and maybe even delay the community center which is obviously something that's already in our plan so as long as i think we accomplish the the goal of getting more meeting space into the yucca district i think it's a win-win for everybody i would personally rather do it that way than add a room onto the library i'd rather start working on how do we move up the community center so i think the first step to that is to understanding how much money are we talking about for a community center so and mr burke said he would get that for us so i don't know that we're looking for if we are looking for a consensus for expanding the library i would rather take a look at moving up the community center myself and delivering another amenity to the residence it's also going to fill an existing need nice mayor i have no objection as to how the action is achieved i would suggest that we do it in the most affordable manner possible so that it can be accomplished relatively relatively soon if that means a community center which i imagine would cost far more than an expansion then so be it if an expansion is warranted i either way it and and i don't want to give the impression that it's just meeting space for yucca district meetings i'm talking about the heroes library hosts a lot of activities and there's no space space is very limited for those activities whether it's something for teens or youngsters or adults the space is too small to accommodate more than a handful of people thank you can we proceed thank you vice mayor members of the council so we'll move on to individual project in the details starting with fiscal year 22 grounds and irrigation this is the remainder of that long big line that we broke down into individual projects this was the money that was carried forward from the current year we'll be working to expend most of this to try to do development of standards for irrigation so as we do projects in the near future they'll already have the principal engineering guidelines in place for how we'll do it so everything moving forward would be consistent the next one is lighting it's the same whoa i have a question i'm looking at page 103 which lists all the capital improvement programs where does park ground in your irrigation is it a new project 1908 and yet it's not listed you know you have general government parks construction government facility yada yada but it's not listed on that summary by funding source which i think it would should be or i don't know mayor our vice mayor members of the council the one that is by funding source is more of a high level by funding source but the pages after that show by project so i believe it's on page 99 if mr freedline is if i'm reading his lips correctly third one down on page 99. got it thank you the second one is the park lighting which is the same principle that was the large lump sum we broke it on individual projects this was money that was in the current fiscal year we're working with field operations to assure we have standards and a way forward for our lighting projects for led lighting which the council's talked about at future previous workshops and looking at possibility of solar and maybe some other delivery methods so we can do modern lighting in our parks really improve the safety and efficiency and improve the service level vice mayor yes another curious question um there's 12 million in carryover do you propose expending all of this carryover that's listed starting on page 99 in this coming fiscal year vice mayor members of the council we're working right now to expand a lot of that and those are in the the projects that the council created that were additional revenue in the current year so there's about 12 different projects we're working on the current carryover estimate that staff put together is just where we are today so we saw the remainder of this fiscal year to let some contracts with designers let some contracts with some contractors so a big chunk of it will be spent not every dollar and as we move into the new fiscal year fiscal year 22 will spend the remainder of that okay so you're telling me that by the end of the current fiscal year by july 1 you will have expended most of that 12 million dollars well probably not most maybe about half okay the reason i hedge is the five million dollar project for the community centers we're in design and programming and that's lagging of all of them so we may not have all that five spent okay so half of it half of that carryover approximately will be expended by the end of the fiscal year and then you anticipate expending the other half hypothetically the other 6 million in fiscal year 2022. that is correct so you already have identified projects that will consume that money or will it be in addition to the projects that are already listed vice mayor members counselor there are projects that the council's already reviewed in a workshop and directed us to begin working on i i guess just for my education i would appreciate it if you could give me an idea of not now but but in in an email or whatever of how you plan on expending that or that six million that you said you figured you could spend before the end of this year and what generally you anticipate using the following six million for just to refresh my memory mr vice mayor councilmember clark again the 12 million are projects the council has already directed staff to expend the reason why we're saying we won't necessarily expend it all in this budget year is just because of some of the delayed to scope out and to get things under contract but for example if we're not fully built out on our three community centers we still fully intend to fulfill the wishes of the council to complete those projects as quickly as possible which may mean it may carry over into the next physical year but the the 12 million dollar projects you're seeing here we was we were given direction by the council including irrigation lighting all the things you're seeing here so just a matter of timing for how long it takes to put those projects and complete them thank you and i do understand that i just want to get a sense of what's doable by the end of this year and what you plan on on doing um with this additional 6 million in fiscal year 2022 thank you it's just to refresh my memory i know these are all approved projects i'm not disputing that nor am i questioning that it's just in terms of dollars and cents i'd like to see how the money is being expended thank you council member thomas thank you vice mayor um i'm trying to understand because this confused me over the weekend um i'm looking at at the page 103 and i'm referring back to last year's park summary by funding source page and in in last year's in last year's uh binder it showed fiscal year 20 2022 under parks construction 17 million 383 410 dollars and then on page 103 it shows parks uh construction six million two hundred and thirteen thousand three hundred fifty eight dollars and then in fiscal year 2023 for last year it showed thirteen million fifty two dollars and seven hundred and fifty two thousand seven hundred sixty three dollars and for twenty twenty three uh eleven million seven two hundred seventy six hundred and fifteen dollars so i'm not sure there's been some changes i'm not sure what those are has the money been moved somewhere else or moved because i don't see it even moved back the out years is still 46 million 400 000 so i'm confused by that and then last year you didn't have general government capital project you didn't show a carryover so i'm just i'm just curious why the amount of money available in parks construction for fiscal year 2022 is a lot less than what was showing for fiscal year 2022 and last year's book vice mayor members of the council the first three pages under that tab show you the changes from year to year otherwise we'd have to go through project by project we'd be happy to meet with you separately on that council member if you need some additional information that's not something we'd be able to answer at this moment not to that level of detail well i tried figuring it out going project by project but i mean there's a big difference it's 11 it's 11 million dollars less and i'm i mean the the changes are project by project and i didn't see anything that added up to unless maybe did you move that is that carryover i just trying to understand the math in in the book i can't couldn't figure it out you don't have to answer me today but i'm just wondering what why the amount has been reduced by so much and where the where the money went you can get back you can get that to me later okay the next project is the o'neill splash pad which is a project council has directed us to work on it is under construction and this is identified as potential carryover for that project next is the park infrastructure improvement this is still the large placeholder these are projects that have not been identified and drilled down in individual projects it's we skipped it out one year to fiscal 23 through 26 and there's the 40 million dollars and this is projects that would require additional voter approval heroes lake original park excuse me uh the lake project is 4.2 million dollars in fiscal 22 is general funded bonds and the project is designed it's out for bid right now we anticipate construction beginning i believe in april and be completed by the end of the calendar year and then the build out we've talked about which is the 44 46 million 400 000 and as a placeholder and we'll get you some additional information on that this is where we begin the new projects we're recommending for the fiscal year 22 rose lane park improvements of course it's in the cactus district and we're recommending improvements to the irrigation system in that park resurfacing courts and a new play structure bonzell park which is in the epithelial district and again we're recommending in fiscal 22 irrigation upgrades court resurfacing and new play structures normal park improvement in the saguaro district in fiscal 22 irrigation core resurfacing and a new play structure in mondo park which is in the barrel district fiscal 22 upgraded the lighting and new play structures moving into fiscal 23 mary silva park is recommended it's also in the cactus district new lighting new playground structures hidden metals park in the saguaro district new lighting and new playground structures heritage park which is in the barrel district court resurfacing and new playground structures and excuse me mayor vice mayor members council when i say new playground structures please assume as we do new apparatus we are also planning on shading all of them so it also includes a shade structure at each location and that's in those costs fiscal 23 hillcrest park in the troya district recommended new lighting and a new play structure i just wanted to quickly ask when you talk about are you also talking about re removing sand and replacing it with a different ground cover and those or would that be a different project the parks that do something remember that's an excellent question we would be taking out the sand and our current recommendation is using the phy bar which is the shredded wood that is ada accessible and is easier to refill and keep in place okay so vice mayor if i could that that that's part of the re replacing the playground structures yes it's included all right thank you moving into fiscal 24 new world park he's in the cactus district crew park lighting and a new playground structure mission park also in the cactus district park lighting and the new playground structure o'neill park improvements in yakatio district lighting and court resurfacing fiscal 24 montara park in the barrel district improved lighting court resurfacing and new playground structure in fiscal 24 caramel park in the troya district lighting irrigation court resurfacing and playground structures moving into fiscal 25 alicia's park in the cactus district playground and shade structures lions park in the ocotillo district lighting and new play structures 25 also in the swirl district is country gables park lighting and new playground structures sunnyside park in the barrel district lighting and playground structures farrington park also in the barrel district park lighting and playground structures 25 a project in foothills park in the choir district lighting and playground and that includes mr vice mayor members council that is also the sports lighting upgrade in that one park because there's such a we think such a need up there for new ball field lighting 25 also northern horizon park in the ocotillo district lighting irrigation and playground myrtle park in fiscal 26 in yakutia district lighting i have a lidl park also in the aquateal district in 26th lighting and playground butler park in the barrel district in 26 park lighting a new playground goya park also in the barrel district park lighting and new playground sierra verde park in the troya district in 26 lighting court resurfacing and new playground vice mayor yes so for the next six years you saw no need to improve any park in the yucca district we have different funding sources and different projects that we're not presenting today we're doing the general obligation bonds i believe we do have projects in the um yucca district the next section the next section is cultural but the one after that is open space there's major projects there and then infrastructure projects or excuse me development impact fee we call them here and what would be the funding source for parks are you talking about diff monies for any improvements in the echo district i believe there's a diff project identified for doing additional amenities at heroes park and i believe um in open space bonds we'll get to in a moment well that's the grand canal correct is that the grand canal that'd be the grand canal yes okay but individual parks nothing for discovery park or pasadena park or any other park in the district those are the newest parks the most recently developed so we felt like although they probably need some improvements they could wait while we do some of these others that are developed in the 60s and 70s okay discovery was established i believe about 15 18 years ago but it doesn't need anything is what you're telling me correct pasadena is older than that pasadena park was established in the 80s but it doesn't need anything you're telling me okay thank you vice mayor uh yeah clark i don't think we're saying that the parks you just mentioned don't need anything i think what staff has done is because we have a lot of parks that were now 50 60 years old that they just kind of the needs were more glaring so for example when you look at irrigation you know we have a lot a much higher probability of failing irrigation systems that are expensive to repair and and use a lot of water that that would how we would prioritize but it's not saying at all that there aren't um parks in your district that could use additional improvements at the end of the day and i think all of you know this this city went better part of a decade without having the resources to put into our park system and now we're kind of paying you know we're trying to play catch-up and there's just a lot of need throughout the area and this was just staff recommendations for what we felt were the highest need areas demonstrated by our assessment and other feedback thank you i understand that and i appreciate your comments but i find it totally amazing totally amazing that there are no needs in the yoga district thank you vice mayor uh just a question regarding the does this max out the general obligation bonds within the parks capacity i remember as the council i think it's very close it may not be to the exact dollar and that's part of the analysis so we'll continue okay so if we if we did for example if the bonds had passed uh last year um this would have changed this would that have changed this significantly or was that mostly just pushing the heroes park up vice mayor membership i think it would have changed significantly because we're doing just the highest priority at each of these park sites the playgrounds which we think is above ground heavily used by the community something the council recognizes a demand for we recognize and an opportunity to show the community we're doing something that he can see a lot of these parks still need work that would be underground invisible whether it's sewer lines water lines irrigation power utilities if we put all our initial investment there and they didn't see any improvements i didn't think it would ring as well there's a lot of amenities that are still not being addressed at every single one of these parks that we called out today they're still ada sidewalks in some parks restroom buildings and some parks courts that need to be rebuilt as well as refunds so there's a lot of capital need here that isn't addressed that would have been if that bond had passed and we had the ability to do a much bigger program okay yeah and i know council may consider doing uh going out for that bond again and i think that will change significantly the ability to meet some of the other needs in the other districts i mean my district i look at my parks and we have a lot of parks i have the largest park which is the paseo wash basically uh as far as acreage uh yet we haven't done anything to it and but i understand you know once we get some bond money perhaps and if we get an approval for bot money then we can move forward on making those improvements and i think uh that is really uh you know something i think we should consider doing again uh making sure we have a good communication and i think we can push up many of these projects that aren't getting done uh if we can get that bond through thank you then give me a minute to forward the slides with with that we'll move into the cultural facilities general obligation bond funded cip projects uh the remaining voter authorization in the cultural facilities is about 13.4 million it was part of the 1999 ballot proposition and projects that qualify for cultural facility bonds are for planning and constructing a cultural facility planning acquiring repairing and restoring historic properties and acquiring land and interest therein as may be needed for such facilities and purposes and with that i'll turn it back over to mr burke thank you and fiscal 22 we have one project in this category which is for a ranch it's identified as the master plan i think our par our recommendation is our priority for this is to hire an engineer to look at the drainage and the historic area of the park because of the big we didn't have any rain last year but the year before in the fall we had a couple of big storms and water went into the basements and affected potentially the the substructure of those buildings the tenants and the partners in the park told us that so we'd like to bring an engineer to do that i'd also like to get an architect to assess each of the buildings and look at the structure the maintenance repair required the deferred maintenance of all the historic structures in that part of the park and then we come back to you with individual projects and cost because i think it's going to be a very potentially very significant number but we're this is also a project that's in this fiscal year and is identified as a carryover we're working with engineering department to try to get those consultant contracts right now any questions mayor councilmember thomas thank you i have a question about cultural facilities and this is something that i actually intended to bring up when we were discussing parks is the um the amphitheater the renovation of the amphitheater i'm wondering is is there some can that be moved out of parks and would it qualify for cultural facilities the the redoing of the amphitheater or even economic development and free up this capacity within parks i'm just curious if if we can move that i mean i would think that an amphitheater qualifies as a cultural facility but i don't i don't know the answer to that for sure thanks mayor members of the council we can have our bond attorney take a look at that okay thank you with that we'll move into the open space and trails general obligation bond funded cip projects the remaining voter authorization in open space and trails is approximately 50 million it was part of the 1999 ballot proposition and it's for planning and acquiring land and interest therein for preservation of open space planning acquiring and constructing multi-use trails and linear parks including but not limited to lighted walkways play areas benches amphitheater artwork fountains landscaping and equestrian trails and acquiring land and interest therein as may be needed for such facilities and purposes and with that i'll turn it back over to mr burke vice mayor members of the council on this slide we have identified four projects that will require council approval within the existing border approval and i'll go through them individually thunderbird conservation park we have two projects identified even though it shows three fiscal years so starting in fiscal 22 a million dollars to design and our recommendation is the new trailhead and identifying access part driveway restrooms interpretive facilities actual parking itself and trailhead connections and our recommendation would be the 55th avenue in pinnacle peak trailhead which seems to be the busiest one to build a permanent trailhead there and then in fiscal 27 through 31 is the balance the six point excuse me 6.6 million as we get farther into this program what we'd recommend is pulling some of the money out of that and doing a trailhead improvement over at 63rd avenue or the 67th i'm sorry i've forgotten across from the high school and then looking at the 59th avenue also coming back with details with you to do the same things to do driveways gates entrance signage restrooms interpretation pavement and trailhead connection comes from remember thomas yeah thank you vice mayor does this include paving the parking lot at 55th avenue rather than continuously applying that gorilla snot i get a lot of complaints about the dust from that parking it's a busy parking lot vice mayor members of the council absolutely it's a brand new trailhead we recommend a complete new design and we'll have some detail for the at a future workshop okay thank you mr mayor go ahead can you give me the approximate dates with my without my having to go through the book for when you anticipate doing the skunk treat linear trial improvements what fiscal year grand canal and thunderbird paseo i didn't hear excuse me yeah what fiscal year within the cip program between 22 and 31 do you tentatively anticipate doing skunk creek grand canal and thunderbird paseo my next three slides i believe will answer that question for you thank you yes vice mayor members of the council's the skunk creek linear trail we've identified a million dollars in fiscal 25. this is in two council districts it's in the choir district from the city limits coming through foothills park and then it goes into the saguaro district until it exits the city in the city of peoria we have a bike path there it's a hard surface path it's well used very popular but the landscaping and irrigation have completely been deferred maintenance for so long that they're almost not there anymore at all get a lot of complaints a lot of our glendale one issues are for improvements or lack of improvements in the maintenance along that path and to re-beautify and recreate that as our proposal the next one is the grand canal linear park and in fiscal year 23 we've recommended one million dollars in a fiscal 24 4 million dollars and that is to look at the infrastructure and the amenities but primarily that irrigation system vice members of council i think councilman clark and i have discussed a number of times the old design and the lack of redundancy and if when that something fails in that system it's basically a seven mile loop and then the whole thing is shut down and we have failing grass and failing trees and you get a lot of complaints so this would tackle that project first and then move through the amenity list and look at things like ramada's and the splash pad it's not working anymore and bring it back to the potential that that park has vice mayor what what fencing are we talking about in grand canal um i'm sorry where is where is the fencing located yeah i'm not recollecting that off the top of my head i'll have to go back to our detail sheet it's probably just some boundary fencing separating us from existing and and i guess i'm really dumb where's the splash pad i didn't even know we had one either but at the we call it i believe we don't have a splash pad we don't have one that's working but there's one that was designed and built and is sitting out there at the missouri park at the very beginning of it i believe it's okay 71st avenue 73rd avenue yeah okay thank you okay and then the final one is the thunderbird paseo park in the saguaro district and fiscal 24 1 million dollars to start design and then in fiscal 25 4.1 million dollars to do improvements um we want to look at all the the nodes on that park and the landscaping the signage the parking lots and the improvements but also investigate whether or not there's other potential there for recreational amenities to expand what's happening in those areas and with that i believe that completes my presentation vice mayor i do have one question we have a lot of voter bond authorization in cultural facilities i don't remember the exact amount i would have to go back to that sheet wouldn't the amphitheater be considered a cultural amenity and why couldn't it maybe somebody asked this already it was asked and what was the answer vice mayor members of the council we'll have our bond attorney take a look at that thank you that's it any questions okay so with that we'll move into the government facilities general obligation bond-funded cip projects government facility voter authorization has a remaining authorization of about 23.7 million it was part of the 1999 ballot proposition and it's for planning and constructing a new public works operations center acquiring or constructing additional city buildings and facilities planning acquiring or constructing a tourism visitor center additional restrooms and related infrastructure throughout the city and acquiring land and interest therein as may be needed for such facilities and purposes and with that i'll turn it over to miss watenko vice mayor yes go ahead one question that i would like address that both councilmember tom chaff and i have championed for years now it may be a while before we get any kind of formal visitor center again i would ask why we can't develop some kind of temporary visitor kiosk located at city hall maybe in the breezeway area i don't know but as a temporary measure until such time as we can develop a full-blown visitor center we keep asking if this can be considered to some someone have an answer to that that question vice mayor members of the council ought to go back i don't recall getting direction from the council to install a um a temporary center we can certainly look at that in pretty short order um we just need to decide i need probably some definition of what that would look like is it a staffed facility i know we had talked about perhaps allowing the um putting a person in the entrance way to the um uh to the building and allowing them to help be a like an ombudsman and answer questions there but we haven't budgeted for that um but we can certainly get some more detail on that announcement finished um i actually don't have them with me but it was in the minutes multiple times during last year's budget and cip discussions it might have been referred to more as a customer service type uh endeavor but um and i actually in the minutes also said that i was disappointed that it wasn't included in last year's budget and would have to think long and hard about approving a budget this year that doesn't include that thank you thank you hey good morning vice mayor and council members so these three projects listed here are program projects within the existing voter authority before we go into any detail though please remember that the operations campus we discussed last week the 9 million shows the prior council direction and it has not been updated since that workshop last week we still owe you a further refinement on that and break down by funding source so what we go to the enterprise funds and what i'll talk more about these projects in a minute this slide shows program projects that staff is recommending for council approval this year that fit within existing voter authority these are four new projects and i'll discuss each of these in a moment this slide shows program projects in fiscal years 26 through 31 that do require council approval and would also require additional voter authority with that now i'll discuss each individual project so this is the prior glendale operations campus this has not been updated since our february 9th council workshop and has agreed to will be updated and include a cost allocation model and that will be shared with council councilmember thomas vice mayor um because it would have been nice to have an email because the workshop actually was february 2nd not february 9th it was two weeks ago today and it's showing no change so i was confused because the change the change document doesn't show any changes but it's still showing 27 million dollars and nine million general obligation authorities so this this this is this this change document isn't current either or it's current on everything other than the ops campus vice mayor members of the council everything is current with the exception of the glendale operations campus but i believe the presentation on the um the operations campus itself was on the ninth okay that's right so all of these other figures are correct except for where it shows all the ops campus that says no change but the rest of this is all correct vice mayor members of the council yes that is correct all right thank you so the next project is the underground storage tank replacement project this is for the operations campus only all the other underground storage tanks were recently upgraded with the aid of grant funding this site did not qualify and it's in fiscal year 24 and does have existing voter authorization the next project is a city hall building remodel this has not been updated to reflect council consensus in december when we did a special workshop and viewed terminal 3 at sky harbor an award of contraction before council in march for the vision and updated based upon that work and this project then would also con consider and include a customer service center kind of a one-stop shop which may be what councilmember clark was referring to earlier with an ombudsman option that type of thing and again we'll be coming back to council with more details on this as we get into the programming phase and the visioning vice mayor yes since this is a project that runs from design in fiscal year 22 through fiscal year 26 it could be up to five years before we would see a customer service center i i would respectfully ask that it be included in the earlier years that portion of of whatever the city hall then then there's no need for a temporary kiosk if you're going to do it within a reasonable amount of time but to wait another five years for some kind of visitor center is is i think inappropriate thank you this next project is the adult center renovation this also has not changed from last year however we do have funding that council has allocated to this project via the az cares to accelerate the programming the results of the programming will be reflected in changes to this project this is one of the new projects staff is recommending this year this is to replace an elevator at city hall replacement of this elevator will ensure that we are maintaining our current assets in good working condition as part of the replacement of this elevator we would ensure that we follow the direction of the future of the city hall exterior project this is another new project that staff is recommending this year this is replacement of the city hall fire system this is not replacement of the individual nodes out within the building this is replacement of the panel the main panel and any work completed during this project would not need to be redone during any city future city hall replacement or remodel project this next project is also a staff recommendation to move these roof repairs forward this is for repairing and replacing roofs at the operations campus buildings a b and o and p not building f that was a clerical error on our part and then the airport maintenance building in the bead museum this next project is for repairs structural repairs to the city hall parking garage we're attempting to do these before they become larger and require replacement of the parking garage to keep the garage in good working condition and i do apologize the justification is incorrect for this project and we'll make sure that that's corrected for you thanks man that's from randy turner thank you um regarding the city hall parking garage i noticed that it mentioned roofs which now you've told us is incorrect which is understandable fine but is there any interest in providing covered cover over the uppermost deck of the parking garage to provide shaded parking up there and potentially even solar energy return vice mayor and council members councilman turner this project did not look at that that would be an enhancement to it this was a just the structural repairs to it if there is direction from council to consider that we could look at the city hall exterior project is what it might take to to add that in okay thank you vice mayor i would support that request i'm surprised we didn't do it a long time ago that third upper level of the parking structure should be shaded and what better place to stick solar and perhaps reduce some of our electric costs that way thank you mayor gospel's next project is one that would require um further approval for it's scheduled in fiscal year 26. this is the amphitheater renovations we we did hear the comments regarding cultural bonds we'll look at that but we're also going to examine this as part of the city hall exterior project the visioning and the programming of that here oh go ahead thank you um it may not be discussed here as being part of this project or fundings because of the funding source but do we have any this is scheduled out for fiscal year 26. do we have any project in place to upgrade the sound and lighting or anything at all at the amphitheater at this time or we we don't have any intention of spending any money on it until 26 i thought there was some discussion about at one point about stuff we could do smaller stuff we could do now that would make it better more uh more artist friendly i guess um because using this amphitheater is something that i think this council has wanted to have more of ever since i've been on it and yet it continues to lag and i realize part of that's coveted we do have this music program we're trying to start but i'm just wondering is there any upgrade in the lighting or sound that is planned before 26. any manager vice mayor councilmember turner um i think that that's certainly a discussion that can happen we are going to be bringing back and having a discussion during our operation um uh budget about uh perhaps investing in the amphitheater and making it as part of the of a broader campus remodel i think that would be at least make that decision first if it looks like the amphitheater doesn't um you know it doesn't have the support of the council to to build in uh then i think we can come back with a plan for improving sound and light but i think if you're going to do it from scratch you should just rebuild it from scratch and you know and actually have an engineer design the sound system and lighting system for um you know for the amphitheater but nothing says we can't spend money in the interim on that we just need to identify you know a source on that vice mayor yeah i uh excuse me pardon me um the city manager is absolutely correct um we still have a lengthy budget process to go but because kovac came through here and ended all of our events we really need to know what our event strategy is going forward before we see a significant change in the amphitheater even some of those suggested by councilmember turner but i look forward to those conversations but i think we should wait to see what we're going to do in the in the future post covid for events thank you vice mayor welcome nice mayor thank you councilmember tom and child should go within you thank you um i i have a couple questions um uh general fund capital capital repair arena there was a change funding added to fiscal y in fiscal years 22-26 and there's a lengthy explanation there's no slide so i don't know what the um what's anticipated for the out years but i know we've been discussing making some significant investment in the arena especially since the other arena in this region has had significant money invested into it but i don't see i don't even see a um i don't mean slide in my book there's no there's no page for the arena so i'm just curious why that is vice mayor council councilmember tomlichoff that's scheduled for our next workshop that's under the pay as you go capital today's presentation is on general obligation bonds with go bonds so that's scheduled for in two weeks so is that going to be another binder or how is how is that going to or is that going to be added to this or how are we going to keep track of all this vice mayor members of the council you'll have the same binder that you have now we're just going to go through the rest of the projects within the book that you get you have okay thank you and so can vice mayor if i could camelback ranch will also be part of pay as you go and i imagine you're working on the request coming from the management over there vice mayor councilmembers councilmembers off you are correct thank you in two weeks announcement mclaren yes uh in response to council member aldama's comments regarding the amphitheater i think now with the under utilization of the amphitheater it couldn't be a better time to actually look at it and see what could be done to to upgrade it quite frankly and and it's kind of like that old saying build it and they will come um we've run uh during the summer band concerts in there for years and they're always full i i can't imagine that if we added more programming to the amphitheater that it would be underutilized i'm sure that it would be over utilized so i consider the amphitheater project a priority at this point especially considering that that with covid no one is coveying up anywhere and and it makes it a perfect time although i i don't imagine the city can operate that quickly but but it certainly would be nice if it could be done during covet season thank you vice mayor that concludes our presentation the next workshop which will be our third workshop on capital improvement plan is on march 2nd we'll be discussing ksugo capital projects transportation sales tax highway user revenue fund diff and grant funded cip projects are you all wrapped up vice mayor yes we are done council have any further questions or comments councilmember thomas thank you so i just want to make sure so are we going to be getting more pages for the book because are all the projects already in here or there's going to be stuff added that we're going to need to add to these books vice mayor members of the council we did notice that there are some missing pages yes we will send them to you thank you anyone else no further business meetings adjourned you