[0:00] [Music] [0:58] **Mayor Clint Hooppaw:** That that guy... let's talk after. Perfect, please. No, let's... a couple council members... [1:14] **Mayor Clint Hooppaw:** Here, we're short a couple. Where is everybody? Hello! Hi, how are you? Boy, you look good. [Music] Not a council member... supposed to be Charles? Did you find them? All right, thank you. We're just coming out of our informal, uh, preliminary look at the budget. Everybody's trying to get reorganized. [Music] [2:11] [Music] [2:18] **Mayor Clint Hooppaw:** As long as we're waiting just a second for Councilmember Melander to arrive—for those who are here for our firefighter, uh, badging and swearing in—if you want to come forward and get pictures, feel free to mill around and do whatever you need to to get pictures of... [2:44] **Mayor Clint Hooppaw:** Tonight you had 10 seconds and I was starting without you, so... all right. We will call this meeting to order for the August 22nd, 2024, Apple Valley City Council meeting. Uh, welcome everyone this evening. As your items are called, please, uh, please come forward to the podium, uh, introduce yourself to address the Council. With that, the first item on our agenda is the Pledge of Allegiance, and I would ask everyone to rise and join us in the pledge. **Group:** I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. [3:34] **Mayor Clint Hooppaw:** All right, the next item is to approve our agenda, and Tom, I know we made a couple tweaks, uh, just very recently, so do you want to walk us through the addition there? **Tom Lawell (City Administrator):** Yes, good evening Mr. Mayor, members of the Council. We have one addition to our agenda tonight. This would be item 5e on your regular agenda. That item would be to set a Special City Council Budget Workshop meeting. This would be on Wednesday, August 28th, at 5:30 p.m. here at the Apple Valley Municipal Center. So that'll be item 5e on your regular agenda. Thank you. **Mayor Clint Hooppaw:** Do we have a motion to approve the agenda as amended? **Ruth Grendahl (Councilmember):** So moved. **John Bergman (Councilmember):** Second. **Mayor Clint Hooppaw:** Motion from Councilmember Grendahl, a second from Councilmember Bergman. All those in favor indicate by saying aye. **Councilmembers:** Aye. **Mayor Clint Hooppaw:** Opposed? The agenda passes. The next item is our audience participation portion of the meeting, but before I jump into that, um, I can't get started on that without wishing Councilmember Goodwin a happy birthday tomorrow. So, uh, Tom, happy birthday! [4:38] **Tom Goodwin (Councilmember):** Thank you. **Mayor Clint Hooppaw:** What are you doing to celebrate? **Tom Goodwin (Councilmember):** What am I doing to celebrate? What do you do when you're 80? You'd have to tell us. Yes, have a late breakfast, sleep late. I'm not sure. **Mayor Clint Hooppaw:** Well, I told you, you're just in your prime. You were up testifying this year and everything! **Tom Goodwin (Councilmember):** Absolutely. I'm in my prime. Yeah, well, I don't know. **Mayor Clint Hooppaw:** Well, after after 40 years of service and an 80th birthday, it's probably worth celebrating. So we hope you do something. So happy birthday, Tom. **Tom Goodwin (Councilmember):** Well, thank you. [5:07] **Mayor Clint Hooppaw:** All right, with that we'll move on to our audience participation portion of the meeting. This is for items not on our agenda. I did not see anyone signed up. Is there anyone in the audience who would like to speak? This is not a Tom Goodwin roast for his birthday, so Glenda is not rolling forward for that. So we'll go ahead and close the audience participation portion of the meeting and move to the consent agenda. These items are considered routine and will be enacted with a single motion unless a council member or citizen request to pull an item. Council members, are there any items you'd like to pull from consent? Seeing none. Citizens, any items? All right, with that we will take a motion to approve the consent agenda. [5:45] **Tom Melander (Councilmember):** So moved. **Ruth Grendahl (Councilmember):** Second. [5:54] **Mayor Clint Hooppaw:** A motion by Councilmember Melander, a second by Councilmember Grendahl. All those in favor indicate by saying aye. **Councilmembers:** Aye. **Mayor Clint Hooppaw:** And opposed? That those items all pass unanimously, and we will move on to item 5A, which is our introduction and oath of office of a firefighter, and Chief Nelson will walk us through this. Look at that fancy outfit! [6:03] **Matt Nelson (Fire Chief):** Thank you, Mayor, Councilmembers. Um, so today we're here to have a badging ceremony for one of our firefighters. Um, Kelly started just over two years ago in April of 2022 with an application to become firefighter. It's a bit of a lengthy process, but she got through the written test, the interview, the background check, physical, the agility test, psychological testing, and started in September of 2022, um, with a recruit class. She went through EMR, Firefighter 1, Firefighter 2, HAZMAT Ops, received all her certifications, and was finally issued a pager and started responding to calls to help the community in March of 2023—almost one year after applying to become a firefighter. She worked through her task books, which is additional training, on-the-job training we do once we get our pagers. Uh, but during this time she became pregnant and took some time off to have her daughter, June. Um, after she returned, um, after having her baby, um, she finished up her task book, um, and has her captain's recommendation to come off probation. So we're here tonight to have her take the oath of office and get badged. Great, thank you. [7:37] **Mayor Clint Hooppaw:** Please state your name. **Kelly (Firefighter):** Kelly [Dri]. **Mayor Clint Hooppaw:** Repeat after me, or repeat with me: Do solemnly swear... **Kelly:** ...do solemnly swear... **Mayor Clint Hooppaw:** ...that I will support the Constitution of the United States... **Kelly:** ...that I will support the Constitution of the United States... **Mayor Clint Hooppaw:** ...and of the State of Minnesota... **Kelly:** ...and of the State of Minnesota... **Mayor Clint Hooppaw:** ...and faithfully discharge the duties... **Kelly:** ...and faithfully discharge the duties... **Mayor Clint Hooppaw:** ...of the office of firefighter... **Kelly:** ...of the office of firefighter... **Mayor Clint Hooppaw:** ...of the City of Apple Valley... **Kelly:** ...of the City of Apple Valley... **Mayor Clint Hooppaw:** ...in the County of Dakota... **Kelly:** ...in the County of Dakota... **Mayor Clint Hooppaw:** ...and State of Minnesota... **Kelly:** ...and State of Minnesota... **Mayor Clint Hooppaw:** ...to the best of my judgment and ability... **Kelly:** ...to the best of my judgment and ability... **Mayor Clint Hooppaw:** ...so help me God. **Kelly:** ...so help me God. **Mayor Clint Hooppaw:** Congratulations! [8:25] [Applause] [8:37] **Mayor Clint Hooppaw:** Then it's customary for the person receiving their badge to pick who they'd like to help badge them. So she has picked her husband, Brett, and her daughter... cool! Oh, look at that! Oh, look at that fancy bow! [9:04] [Applause] [9:15] **Mayor Clint Hooppaw:** Thank you, thank you, and to the rest... thank you, welcome. And to the rest of our firefighters here, thanks for coming out to support. It's always great to see the back of the room full, uh, as we do this, and we know that support continues well beyond tonight. So thank you all for being here and welcome and congrats. **Kelly:** Thank you. **Mayor Clint Hooppaw:** You know, they have a new guy, that second from the end guy? You see that guy there? Yeah, he's a new rookie fireman. All things old are new again, right? Um, Chief, do you... do you guys want to, uh, uh, convene outside for for reception or whatever? So we will pause for a bit and let those who want to, uh, to, uh, leave the room do so. Those were the words I was looking for. [10:01] **Mayor Clint Hooppaw:** That's what you call educational. There's a little one. Did we lose...? [Laughter] [Music] [10:35] **Mayor Clint Hooppaw:** All right, it's an evening of, uh, I guess fun things as well as other things tonight. So our next item is item 5B, and that is a proclamation recognizing our very own City Planner, Kathy Bodmer. We're going to kick it over to Tim to get us started. [10:48] **Tim Benetti (Community Development Director):** Thank you, Mr. Mayor, members of Council. Um, tonight we have a great announcement, but also a very bittersweet one. We are, uh, accepting the resignation—the retirement, excuse me—of our City Planner, Kathy Bodmer. Kathy has been—I want to make sure I get this right because last night I was screwing up some dates and times from from our Planning Commission meeting. Last night I was shooting from the hip, I was trying to be a little jovial, and, uh, I was messing up some dates. So Kathy, uh, you... Wisconsin-La Crosse, not Eau Claire, uh, recipient 1986 of her Bachelor of Arts, and also Master of Arts from Mankato State University in '94. That began her career of 38-plus years in the City of Hopkins, North Mankato, City of Savage. She started with the city back in September 15th of 1994. She is just nine days short of 30 years because she thought 29 years and three weeks, whatever, was just that much better than 30 years plus! But we're very happy to see that she did complete 30 years. Kathy is an AICP certified American Institute of Certified Planners. As you can see from from her memo, she's worked on some wonderful projects. I'm sure most of you, uh, were instrumental in seeing some of those approvals through, but it all began with her hard work along with our, our great staff seeing that those projects came online. And we're very happy and we're going to be missing her, but we, uh, she's very much deserving of this proclamation, and we'd love to have the Mayor, uh, read that proclamation for her and have Kathy provide any words of, of, of, uh, acceptance or closure remarks. So Kathy, floor is yours. [12:22] **Mayor Clint Hooppaw:** Kathy, would you like me to read the proclamation first, or would you like to say a few things first? Uh, very, very rarely have you had a chance to decide what order to speak in in all these years! So if you want to go ahead and do the...? **Kathy Bodmer (City Planner):** Happy to. **Mayor Clint Hooppaw:** No, we can... in fact, Chuck, yes, I'm just reading it, I didn't write it. So, um, but our proclamation this evening is: Whereas Kathleen "Kathy" Bodmer began her employment with the City of Apple Valley on September 15, 1994, and has served as a key member of the Apple Valley Community Development and Planning Department for 30 years; and whereas Kathy has announced her retirement effective September 6, 2024; and whereas she began her work with the city as Associate Planner, was promoted to Planner, and most recently in May of 2023 was promoted as City Planner; and whereas prior to coming to Apple Valley she also served in community planning positions with the cities of Hopkins, North Mankato, and Savage, and she leaves the profession with over 38 years of dedicated service; and whereas in 2003 Kathy achieved her American Institute of Certified Planners certification from the American Planning Association and has maintained this designation, pledging to uphold the high standards of practice, ethics, and professional conduct throughout her career; and whereas through her dedicated service she was instrumental in the successful development of four comprehensive plans for the City of Apple Valley—2010, 2020, 2030, and 2040—and has helped to guide the city's growth from a population of 34,598 when she arrived to over 56,000 today; and whereas during her tenure with the city she coordinated many significant projects, made countless presentations before the Planning Commission, City Council, Urban Affairs Committee, and Economic Development Authority, and participated in many community events and city-wide activities aimed at improving the health, safety, and livability of the community for all; and whereas throughout her long and admirable career Kathy has demonstrated top quality character, integrity, leadership, superb professionalism, and a tireless effort and unwavering commitment to the public good and citizenry of this community; and whereas Kathy will be long remembered for her amazing work helping to make Apple Valley the thriving community it is today. Now, therefore, the City Council of Apple Valley, Dakota County, Minnesota, hereby proclaims its deep gratitude to Kathy on a job extremely well done and wishes her a long and happy, well-earned retirement. Proclaimed this 22nd day of August, 2024. Kathy! [15:15] [Applause] [15:27] **Kathy Bodmer (City Planner):** Well, thank you. Thank you very much, Mr. Mayor, City Council members. Um, as I was thinking about a couple of points maybe that I would want to, or a message I want to give the City Council, um, what I'd like to say is working for Apple Valley has been a good gift. Um, it's, it's been a really great place to work and, um, the City Council and Mayor and, and administration and boss and, um, the rest of the staff, um, really make it a really, um, stable place, a rational place, a great place to work. So I'm, I'm just really thankful. Um, thankful for Councilmember Melander's past leadership with the Planning Commission. I know there's a Planning Commission member with us here this evening, so thanks for that. Um, when I was working in Savage, I came over to Apple Valley to do my interview, and I was driving on McAndrews east, and I got to, um, Garden View Drive, and then I got through the intersection and I thought, "I think that was a four-way stop! I just drove through!" [17:05] **Mayor Clint Hooppaw:** Anyway, statute of limitations... 30 years is probably okay! **Kathy Bodmer (City Planner):** Yeah, so anyway, thank you so much for putting your trust in me. It's been a real pleasure and I, I'm just really appreciative. So thank you. **Mayor Clint Hooppaw:** Thank you, Kathy. Retirement... a picture! But as I here, we also need a motion and a second on this. We'll just do it this way so we can get a picture if we could. Okay, you want us down there? That's good. Do you all want to be in one as well? No, that's all right. Let's get down here then. Try... try... you almost got out of this one! We need one more. All right, thank you, thank you, appreciate it. Yeah, thank you. [18:22] **Tom Goodwin (Councilmember):** I heard a motion from Councilmember Goodwin and a second from Councilmember Melander. Yeah, all of us might be appropriate, so... was that correct? Yeah, all right. Uh, all in favor of the...? Do we have any further discussion? **Tom Goodwin (Councilmember):** Well, I just think we should remember one of her toughest parts of her job is she tried to make the Community Development Directors look good for 30 years! That has been a success. [Laughter] [19:08] **Tom Melander (Councilmember):** Thank you, Mr. Mayor. And Kathy, thank you. I was on planning for 20-some years and, uh, witnessed a lot of presentations from Kathy. And, uh, I always had the, the highest respect for the preparation that she put into a, a presentation, the care that she addressed, um, uh, the professionalism, the, um, politeness. You, you were always so respectful and, and not just of, of me, but of the Commission as a whole—the Planning Commission—and receptive of the comments that we made, the suggestions to, to help shape things. Um, it's an important position and it's, it's kind of like an NFL lineman, you know? You do a lot of the grunt work but you don't get any of the appreciation and the accolades. So you did a great job with, with, with the city and for all of us. So thank you so much. **Kathy Bodmer (City Planner):** Thanks, Tom. [20:10] **Mayor Clint Hooppaw:** All right, we have a motion from Councilmember Goodwin and a second from Councilmember Melander. All those in favor indicate by saying aye. **Councilmembers:** Aye. **Mayor Clint Hooppaw:** Aye. That carries unanimously. Thank you, Kathy. And I bet you did not think you were going to get compared to an NFL lineman this evening, nor will it go on the plaque or the...? Thank you, Kathy. Um, our next item, 5c, is to proclaim September 14th, 2024, as Fall Food Truck Festival. And Bill, do you want to come up and tell us what we got going on? Something new? [20:45] **Bill Deetz (Parks & Rec Staff):** Yeah, uh, Mr. Mayor and Apple Valley Councilmembers. I'm here... how do I...? Kind of stole my thunder! New, something new. Um, we always like to try new, new things, new events, new programs, things like that. So we are... September 14th, which is a Saturday, um, we'll have our first Fall Food Truck Festival, and it's noon to 6:00 p.m. at Kelly Park. And, um, we've got 10 food options—way huge variety of food options—couple dessert options. Um, along with that, we've partnered with the Apple Valley Arts Foundation, and they're a great partner that we've done our concerts with all year, and we're going to continue music into the fall. And I'll give you a quick lineup: we've got a band at 11:30 A.M., got in between the two bands—we've got two bands—we've got a kids DJ, and then at 3:30 we have the Alex Rossi Band. Um, and then throughout the day, we are hoping to have a Youth Art Trail with kids working on fairy houses, which I knew nothing about... I know a lot more about fairy houses now! But, um, so that might be a nice addition. We're hoping to get some kids to participate and build those houses. Um, all the information is available on the city website. We're keeping that up to date, and we do Facebook posts as well. You're also welcome to call the Parks and Recreation Department if you have any questions. Um, so with that, I am just seeking your support on declaring the 14th of September Fall Food Truck Festival Day in Apple Valley. **Mayor Clint Hooppaw:** Thank you, Bill. Yeah, so we're looking for a motion to proclaim September 14th, 2024, as Fall Food Truck Festival and Community Festival and authorize the temporary placement of signage on public property. [22:38] **Ruth Grendahl (Councilmember):** I'll make that motion. And thanks for doing something different! **Bill Deetz:** Yes, exactly. **Mayor Clint Hooppaw:** Do we have a second? **Tom Goodwin (Councilmember):** Second. **Mayor Clint Hooppaw:** All right, we have a motion from Councilmember Grendahl, a second from Councilmember Goodwin. All in favor indicate by saying aye. **Councilmembers:** Aye. **Mayor Clint Hooppaw:** Thank you, Bill. We all look forward to to being there. Thank you for doing something. **Bill Deetz:** Hope to see you out there! [22:50] **Mayor Clint Hooppaw:** All right, next item on our agenda is 5D, and that's to adopt your resolution approving a 12-foot setback variance, uh, from Cedar Avenue. And I think Sydney has this item. Come on up. [23:35] **Sydney (City Planner):** Good evening, Mayor and Councilmembers. ISD 196 has requested a variance at Cedar Valley Learning Center located at 14420 Glenda Drive. Cedar Valley Learning Center is an education facility that provides a range of classes and opportunities to all ages, children to adults. Specifically, the request is to reduce the Cedar Avenue setback from 50 feet to 38 feet for a secure vestibule addition. The property is located in the northwest corner of Cedar Avenue and 145th Street West, just north of Kwik Trip. The property is zoned LB, Limited Business. As mentioned, this zone requires a 50-foot setback from Cedar Avenue. The building is situated in the southeast corner of the property where it abuts the 50-foot building setback and shifts slightly away going north. Uh, just to quickly orient this plan: the north side of the property and the building is located, um, at the bottom of the slide, and then the east side is located towards the left side of the slide. The existing entrance is, um, on this north side, and this is where—can you see the mouse? Yes, okay—this is where staff are currently located. Currently, students and visitors have direct access to the—sorry, trying to find my mouse—to the elevator, um, which is here, and that open staircase here. This is a primary security concern at the facility. The school district would like to re-establish the secondary East entrance to construct a secure vestibule with staff located in this area. Due to the proximity of the building to the 50-foot setback area, the applicant states that the vestibule cannot be added without encroaching into the setback. [25:35] **Sydney:** The Planning Commission did have questions relating to securing the existing north entrance. The applicant representative provided more information on the difficulties in securing this existing entrance. Physically, an addition could be added to the north side, but managing staff would still be interior to that addition, so visitors would be let in and then would still have access to vertical circulation prior to checking in with staff. The intent of the vestibule is to let visitors into the main classroom area of the building with immediate view and engagement from staff. An addition to the north entrance would have to be large enough to fit a staff area within that addition so that the staff could properly manage visitors. The applicant representative noted that a structure of this size would also impact parking and flow of traffic within the parking lot, as well as would be more costly and unfeasible. In terms of the elevation, the proposed addition will have a footprint of 153 square feet. The new increased building coverage would meet the building coverage standard for the Limited Business District. All exterior finishes are proposed to match the existing building. For the character of the Cedar Avenue corridor, building setbacks along Cedar Avenue range in distance for varying reasons. For instance, the Legends is within a PD, and in this plan development, the setback requirement is 20 feet from Cedar Avenue. Huntington Bank, formerly TCF, which is also within the Limited Business District, has an approved variance reducing the Cedar Avenue setback from 50 feet to 10 feet. This is not a complete review of all building setbacks along Cedar Avenue, but just a preliminary list of surrounding properties with setbacks of less than 50 feet. [27:14] **Sydney:** The Planning Commission voted unanimously to recommend approval of the setback variance at the August 7th meeting. A summary of their findings includes the requirements of the LB Zone, the existing conditions of the site and building including the lack of security and visitor management, the more favorable conditions of the East entrance, and how the proposed addition would not alter the character of the surrounding Cedar Avenue corridor. The Planning Commission's findings and conditions are listed within the staff report as well as in the attached resolution. The requested action for tonight is to adopt a resolution approving a 12-foot setback variance from Cedar Avenue to construct a vestibule addition at Cedar Valley Learning Center. We do have the applicant and our representative here tonight if you have any questions, and I can also help answer any questions as well. Thank you. [28:12] **Mayor Clint Hooppaw:** Thanks. Councilmembers, are there any questions on the item? If there are no questions, we can take a motion to adopt the resolution approving the 12-foot setback variance from Cedar Avenue to construct a vestibule addition at Cedar Valley Learning Center on Lot 3, Block 1, Borell, which is 14420 Glenda Drive. **John Bergman (Councilmember):** So moved. **Tom Melander (Councilmember):** Second. **Mayor Clint Hooppaw:** Motion from Councilmember Bergman, a second from Councilmember Melander. All those in favor indicate by saying aye. **Councilmembers:** Aye. **Mayor Clint Hooppaw:** Opposed? Applicant, School District, anything you'd like to add? It's approved, so I'm not sure... **Applicant:** Right, right. Say, it's just part of the overall ref projects that we have on right now, and we appreciate the city's cooperation. **Mayor Clint Hooppaw:** Thank you, thank you. And just want to recognize Sydney—I believe this is your first presentation joining staff, so welcome. You did a great job. **Sydney:** Thank you, thank you. **Mayor Clint Hooppaw:** They aren't all this easy, just ask Kathy! Um, all right. Uh, our next item is 5e, which we added, which is to establish a budget workshop on August 28th at 5:30 p.m. Tom, are there any other notes or anything else we need to add to that? Is that sufficient? [29:30] **Tom Lawell (City Administrator):** That is sufficient. By action tonight, we will post the meeting and, uh, it could happen on the 28th. **Mayor Clint Hooppaw:** Perfect. We need a motion on that item. **Tom Goodwin (Councilmember):** Motion. **John Bergman (Councilmember):** Second. **Mayor Clint Hooppaw:** Motion from Councilmember Goodwin, second from Councilmember Bergman. All those in favor indicate by saying aye. **Councilmembers:** Aye. **Mayor Clint Hooppaw:** And opposed? That item carries. Staff and Council Communications—anything from Council or staff? Go ahead, Tom. You wanted something, did you not? Oh, you were hovering over the light! You threw me off there, I thought... I'm sorry. [29:50] **Tom Lawell (City Administrator):** Staff, Mr. Mayor. We have two items for you tonight. One, just a reminder to the public that we are currently accepting comments on the Neighborhood Park Amenity Plan that is out for public review. Uh, this is part of the, uh, Parks and Recreation referendum from last year, and we are anxiously accepting those comments to make sure that we have the, the absolute best outcome for this process. I want to commend, uh, Parks Director Eric Carlson and his staff for the work that they have done on outreach. Uh, they're actually going to every park in the valley and spending time with neighbors, uh, trying to gather their thoughts. And we're hearing a lot of comments, so this is good. This is what we're supposed to do. This is what we want to make certain that the park bond dollars are being deployed in a way that makes the most sense for our community. So congratulations to them on the process. I think you've got another week or two of, uh, meetings? One more week, uh, in the neighborhood parks, but if you can't make those meetings, you go on to our website, we have a link there. Uh, you're able to actually, uh, on an interactive map, be able to, uh, pinpoint where it is you would like to make a comment, put your information on there. And we are collecting all of that, and we promise we will review all of it and take that into account with our final plan. [31:11] **Tom Lawell (City Administrator):** Uh, the second item is, uh, Deputy Chief Dalstrom update. We have a few things going on with the, uh, the Police Department and, uh, public, uh, engagement. Go ahead. [31:22] **Nick Dalstrom (Police Deputy Chief):** Thank you, Tom. Mr. Mayor, Councilmembers, just a wanted to put a couple quick things on your radar, um, and for the community's radar, to, uh, have a chance to come out and engage with us in Public Safety. Us, Fire, um, and Allina Ambulance are going to be out and about at two events that are coming up. Uh, the first, we are going to, uh, engage with folks at the Music in the Park event—it was a makeup date—so that'll be September 8th. And we'll be out in the park basically, uh, when they get set up and, and during the music, so about 1:30 to 3:30 p.m. that day. Um, and you'll see Police and Fire, and I think we have Allina Ambulance out there as well. So it's a great opportunity to come and, and interact with the officers, come check out our vehicles, um, kind of learn about our staff. And then we've got our K9 unit will be out doing a demonstration, uh, that day. [32:10] **Nick Dalstrom (Police Deputy Chief):** And then our second is a little bit more of a formal event called "Public Safety in the Park." Um, we'll be at Johnny Cake Ridge Park on September 18th, um, from about 5:00 p.m. to 7:00 p.m. So, two things: come hungry, uh, because we're going to be cooking for you! It'll be a, a free meal for anybody that, that comes out to, to say hi to us. Um, and the Fire Department, us, and Allina will also be there with vehicle demonstrations and just an opportunity to, to come out and engage with us and say hi. Um, one of the fun things I learned last year at that event is that the Fire Department will not park a firetruck on the grass. Now, the Police Department, we have no problem with putting our vehicles on the grass—no issue—but, uh, they won't. What I learned is that they're too heavy and they sink! But, uh, so come find out. How did they learn that? I'm guessing with... I know how expensive a very large tow truck is, uh, because we got a SWAT vehicle stuck one time. Um, but if you want to learn more fun facts like that, come out and, uh, say hi to us either at, uh, Music in the Park on the 8th—and that's at Kelly Park—or, uh, on the 18th at Johnny Cake Ridge Park. [33:14] **Mayor Clint Hooppaw:** Great, thank you. Thank you, thank you. Appreciate your time. Tom, anything else? **Tom Lawell (City Administrator):** No. **Mayor Clint Hooppaw:** I'll just going to circle back to the comments on the, on the projects coming up in the parks, and you know, we put proposals out there for a reason, right? They weren't final; they weren't carved in stone. But we have to start somewhere to get comments, and if you don't have anything out there, it's awful hard to start getting comments on what you think you might want to do. So, um, Eric and team, thank you for taking the comments, spending the evenings in the parks. But just to everybody listening and paying attention, it's intentional. We want the feedback, we want the comments, and please get them in. And they will be looked at and they will be evaluated, and we'll be back to you with finals based on those comments. So thanks everyone who's gotten them in, and those who haven't, please, please share them with us. Not just share them amongst your neighbors and your friends, but please share them with us. Councilmembers, any other comments? Anything to add? [34:10] **Mayor Clint Hooppaw:** All right. Our next informal City Council meeting is... well, let's just back up. Our budget workshop is on 8/28 at 5:30 p.m. And then our next informal Council meeting will be Thursday, September 12th, at 5:30, and our next regular Council meeting is Thursday, September 12th, at 7:00. Do I have a motion to approve the calendar? **Ruth Grendahl (Councilmember):** Second. **Mayor Clint Hooppaw:** We have a motion from Councilmember Grendahl, a second from Councilmember Goodwin. All those in favor indicate by saying aye. **Councilmembers:** Aye. **Mayor Clint Hooppaw:** And opposed? Calendar is approved. I'll remind you that city offices are closed on Monday, September 2nd, in observance of the Labor Day holiday. We have a motion to adjourn? **John Bergman (Councilmember):** I move. **Ruth Grendahl (Councilmember):** Second. **Mayor Clint Hooppaw:** Motion from Councilmember Bergman, second from Councilmember Grendahl, and all in favor? **Councilmembers:** Aye. **Mayor Clint Hooppaw:** We're adjourned. Thank you. [Music] [Applause] [Music]