just a chance Doubt's a chance I all right now you got what got yeah I know like no more compliments that never stop I we're going to get started in just a moment here if people want to take a seat all right the Tuesday January 21st 2025 meeting of the Eden Prairie City Council is now called to order please rise for the Pledge of Allegiance Al to the flag of the United States of America repu for it stands one nation God indivisible liy and justice for all thank you um those that are in attendance for coming out on this um cold uh Tuesday evening not as cold as it was this morning however my um we were just talking my Comcast indoor thermometer as well as matching my car was 19 below up on Pioneer Trail so I'm assuming most of Eden Prairie was similar that's that's getting um that's getting pretty much down there in the thermometer range all right it's typical this time of the evening of of our meeting for me to read an open Podium invitation open Podium is an opportunity for Eden Prairie residents to address the city council on issues related to Eden Prairie City Government these sessions these open Podium times occur prior to each regular council meeting the regular Council meetings typically occur the first and third Tuesday of each month the open podiums occur from 6:30 to 6:55 here in the council chamber if you wish to speak at open Podium please do contact the city manager's office at 952 9498 412 by noon of the meeting date with your name phone number and subject matter so we can be better prepared for you open open Podium is not recorded or televised if you have questions about open Podium please contact the city manager's office Mr Geto anything um I'll let you introduce the um Martin Luther King Jr Day Proclamation and then I will read it thank you mayor uh something that the city has done um as long as I can remember uh More Than A decade is to uh Proclaim Martin Luther King Jr day and um as is the custom a proclamation is prepared uh for you to read and there's no other action besides that or any other presentation but it's simply a proclamation um recognizing the city's commitment um to equal rights great and just to let people know as well we do have uh six standing commissions one of them is the human rights and diversity commission which um is um incredibly supportive of this Proclamation this evening and we um met with them in fact during Workshop this evening along with the sustainability commission so I will read the proclamation Proclamation city of Eden Prairie henpen County Minnesota whereas the city of Eden Prairie's city council and human rights and diversity commission sponsors the Black History Month words in action contest and the human rights award program recognizing those who work to create an inclusive community Spirit through their actions activities and programs and whereas the city of Eden prair recognizes that doc Dr Martin Luther King Jr had a dream and dedicated his life to helping Freedom exist for all people through his commitment to Human Rights and his nonviolent philosophy and whereas the city of Eden Prairie reaffirms its commitment to fostering diversity in our community Through the Eden Prairie Manifesto now therefore be it resolve that the city of Eden Prairie hereby proclaims 2025 as a year to celebrate human rights and diversity and asks all residents to continue their commitment and concern for equal rights for all persons to dedicate themselves to helping those who do not yet share in that freedom and to join the city of Eden Prairie in recognizing and celebrating Dr Martin Luther King Jr's dream Ronald AK mayor on behalf of council members Kathy Nelson Mark Friberg P Ryan and Lisa Tumi all right uh moving on to the next item on our agenda is the approval of agenda and other items council is there anything else that you wish to come uh before the council tonight to be on uh the agenda U probably under council member reports if you had something nothing I will entertain a motion then to approve the agenda as in our packet move to approve the agenda is there a second second further discussion all those in favor say I I moving on we have the minutes from the January 7th meeting we have minutes from both the workshop and the council meeting uh Council any um edits Corrections um things you want to call out um concerns you had about the minutes if not is there a motion that we could approve both uh the workshop and the meeting that evening move to approve the following city council minutes city council Workshop held Tuesday January 7 2025 city council meeting held Tuesday January 7 2025 is there second second further discussion all those in favor say I I opposed moving on to the consent calendar for those um of you who might be a little bit new to our Council process this is where we Clump together items that are really important they just don't deserve not deserve they don't need or require further conversation discussion however Council you U may pull in of these items if you wish to learn more about them we could even vote on them separately is there are there any concerns among the items a through K on the consent calendar if not is there a motion then to approve uh items a through K on the consent calendar I move to approve items a to K on the consent calendar any further discussion all those in favor say I I oppose all right this evening uh we have um two um really important items one is a public hearing on the Marshall Gardens which I believe is the largest uh residential piece of property yet to develop in the city so it's um exciting for us to be here this evening if um sometimes development um is also accompanied by loss of the open space and people have concerns but nonetheless it's private land um and from a development standpoint there is there certainly is a positivity and excitement to it and then um we also have um the um adoption of bids which is a pretty big deal for our city um complex here um renovation so Mr Geto I'll turn it over to you for um the introduction to the public hearing this evening yes thank you may and council members uh your correct mayor uh this is a over 32 Acre Site in Southwest uh Eden Prairie scheduled to be developed uh for residential use um currently the property located at 9905 Del road is a single family dwelling agricultural buildings farmland and private open space as you will hear tonight the proposal um is to approve a development of 15 single family lots and uh 100 unit multifamily stack Town Homes uh first I if if uh because the council spent a bit of time on this project and it's been discussed for a while we would like to provide a little bit of a staff update so our um community development director and Public Works director have a little bit of information to share and then as is very typical um the development applicant will also have a presentation and an overview of the project and then the staff and development team can answer any questions that that you may have prior to holding a public hearing if that's okay perfect all right thank you Julie Julie Robert mayor members of the council thank you uh for the opportunity to provide a brief overview of the project as it stands today Robert and I have a few slides that we'd like to share with you as we start this conversation I want to give a general overview of the project as Rick mentioned you've seen it at Workshop a couple of times Planning Commission has reviewed it there have been some modifications to the plan between Planning Commission and city council review and then Robert will answer some questions or provide some information on traffic so the development plan as it sits today um includes the extension of Crestwood Terrace East and West through the property and on the north side of that public Street there are 15 single family homes that are proposed and on the south side of that public Street are what appear to be four Standalone multifam buildings that would provide a total of 100 multifam units those are stacked Town Homes uh that would be available for sale as are the single family homes all of them are owners ship units within the project you'll see up in the um corner there is a community garden area there are two outlots that are also providing ponding areas and then there's a large outlot on the southern portion of the project that would be deeded to the city that would uh preserve and maintain that bluff and open space uh where the creek runs through that property between Planning Commission and city council review there as I said there have been a couple of changes those most notable changes are those single family homes on the North side shifting more to the West so what Planning Commission saw included a residential unit uh tied up against the Crestwood Terrace connection into the neighborhood to the north as you can see now there's an outlaw area in order to provide more distance between the existing homes and the proposed homes and that outlot would be maintained and owned by the homeowners association and you'll see later on that there's a significant amount of landscaping that has been added to that area in addition shifting these eastern most lots to more of an angle for that footprint provides more of a distance between the existing homes to the north and what the developer and Planning Commission heard were some concerns about the new homes and the existing homes basically looking right into each other's Windows this design prevents that from happening another change since Planning Commission is a reduction in the size of the Community Gardens so these Community Gardens have been reduced by about 2third of the size that the Planning Commission saw and would now be available only to the homeowners within the project area so loud and clear at the Planning Commission there was concern about a lot of incoming traffic to the neighborhood because of opening up those Community Gardens so by restructuring the use of that area answers that question as well and with that redesign that I've just outlined it also reduces the number of lot width and lot area waivers significantly um with that new design on the north side of that roadway this is a quick snapshot of the Landscaping plan as you can see along that North Boundary particularly on the east side um there is a significant amount of landscaping that has been added in order to provide more of that buffer and transition area between the existing neighborhood and the new neighborhood to be built to the South as well there's Landscaping interspersed throughout the entire um project area but that was a significant concern and comment that was shared at the Planning Commission all right mayor city council um I'm going to go over a little bit of the traffic information there were a few comments that were brought up during the neighborhood meetings and some comments that have come in um since this uh item was scheduled for tonight so U to spend a little bit of time when you take a look at this development Marshall Gardens there's 100 units of multif family and there's 15 units of single family and so on a daily basis that generates just under 900 trips in and out of the site over the course of a 24-hour period And as we've uh assign the dispersement of those trips you take a look at this map here and I've tried to highlight that um 25% of that traffic in and out of the development would come off of Del Road and flying cloud 15% is U coming off Crestwood Terrace um heading up towards Pioneer Trail there's 10% coming off stable path and the remaining 50% is on Dell Road North going through the Pioneer Trail intersection now when you overlay those 900 new trips in and out on top of the existing traffic that is out there on the roadway Network today um and then you can see what the difference is in the added traffic so the orange indicates what the traffic is today the blue is what it would be with this development approved and then the green just shows the increase so of the 900 trips from Marshall Garden they have two ways in and out of the neighborhood they can go over to Del Road through Crestwood Terrace or they could go up north to uh laar Ray drive this is uh the traffic breakdown is about 80% is going directly out to Del Road and 20% of those 900 trips are going north to lafare so when you superimpose that traffic on Crestwood Terrace for example to the West you see that that goes from 100 vehicles per day today to 235 post development so it adds 135 vehicles per day likewise at stable path there's an increase of 90 vehicles and then Del road to the North 450 as you're approaching Pioneer TR raail Dell Road to the South has 225 Vehicles now if you want to take a little bit closer look of those 175 Vehicles the 20% that are heading north to lafar Ray 50 of those Vehicles we expect to use Geisler road so that would increase from 250 trips per day to 300 there would be 50 on Jonathan Lane so again that increases from 300 to 350 and then lafay picks up 7 so it goes from 300 trips per day to 375 and to put that in context if you were to look at all of Dell Road starting at Highway 62 On the minetonka Border all the way down to Flying Cloud Drive I've included those daily trips so Highway 62 to Valley View Road 3200 vehicles per day from Valley View to the tcmw railroad bridge 3,100 vehicles per day from the bridge to Highway Highway 5 is the highest section with 8,800 vehicles per day from Highway 5 to 212 drops down to 6,500 vehicles per day then the next section which would be uh near be on Bear Path it's up to 7200 vehicles per day and then as you start to get closer to the Marshall Gardens these are the volumes post build so going through the intersection of pirer trails at 3400 and then it just slowly drops to 2100 1200 and then south of the development at 825 so I'm just trying to highlight that the volumes that we're talking on this section of Del Road are the the the smallest volumes on all of Del road now now that we've assigned the trip distribution and the traffic model of trips in and out the next thing we do is we look at intersection level of service this is where we're starting to evaluate the safety of adding these trips to our intersections so our goal is always to have a or b level of service that's less than 10 seconds for an a 10 to 15 seconds of delay for a b these are the type of intersections that are very safe there's very few accidents if any uh there's little risk there's not a lot of decision points drivers have to make sometimes we see these at Seas to DS those are acceptable levels of service not uncommon for new development what we do want to avoid is an e or an F an e or an F indicates we have high-risk Maneuvers we're going to have issues with accidents and it usually indicates that you need additional treatments maybe you need a roundabout a traffic signal you need to add Lanes maybe it's a four-way stop when we start seeing e and Fs that's when we start talking about making infrastructure improvements to accommodate traffic and improve that level of service so all of our intersections that were evaluated with this development are along Del Road they're at lafay Jonathan Geisler North Stable path strawberry Court Geisler South and Crestwood Terrace they're uh stop controlled so the Del Road of course doesn't stop side street are the um are the movements that stop if you look at today's level of service before this development for all those intersections they're all A's they have 9 seconds or less of delay so it's like an A minus 10 seconds is when it hops over to a b so today conditions it's a it's where we always want it to be now if you do a couple things here now we're looking at 2027 build so couple things have happened Marshall Gardens all built out people are living in it it's 2027 we're factoring a 1% growth rate per year between now and then just because our population continues to grow and also Del Road has been improved so Del Road just by the nature of improving Del Road from a gravel section to a pavement section is going to generate about 200 trips per day just because now it's an improved Road that's more attractive than it than it was before so all of those things happening now we look at those same intersections in the the am Peak the PM Peak under a no build and a build scenario for the most part they're all staying the same they're a and I should point out when it says AA the first a is the overall uh intersection level of service the second a is just the side street level of service um so where AA is across the board at Geisler Road North that does drop to a b uh for the side street it adds a second of delay so it goes from an A minus to a B+ uh rather moderate but it's the same under a build no build situation so really the Marshall Gardens is not doing anything to influence that it's really that 1% growth factor each year and it's Dell Road being improved um again we see some more A's at strawberry Gea Road South and then at Crestwood Terrace that is the one that goes from an A under a Nob build scenario to an AB in the build so that's really the only one that changes primarily due to um Mar Gardens but again it's a 1 second increase in delay so really the conclusion of all this is that currently all intersections and approaches operate at a level of service a today during the AM and PM peak hours and the peak qes that's the number of vehicles that are stacked up waiting to get onto Del road is always two vehicles or less in the year 2027 build scenario all intersections and approaches operate at a level of service b or better most of them are better during those exact same periods and the Pak Q for some of those do reach three vehicles or less so it's an additional vehicle that's queuing and that's why you're seeing that added second of delay um and again Del Road this section of Del Road will continue to have the lowest overall volumes along the entire Corridor and the last thing I want to point out is that stop signs are being recommended at Crestwood or or for Crestwood at lafay um and maybe just a couple other things to point out because I think there have been comments about well doing need a roundabout at Crestwood do we need an Allway stop generally we're not looking for roundabout unless you start hitting about 500 vehicles per day per approach and you have a level of service issue you've got excessive delay or maybe you have accident problems and we're just not seeing those types of characteristics at that intersection so it isn't something that we would typically recommend um as for the four-way stop generally the four-way stop analysis has warrants where you're looking for three 300 vehicles per hour on your major Street for a minimum of8 hours out of the day and we just don't have those volumes here um we've got 1,200 for the entire day so uh we would never be anywhere near 300 per hour for eight hours also you want to see a side street vehicle volume of 200 vehicles per hour and again they're just those volumes don't exist at Crestwood Terrace so the four-way stop wouldn't be warranted today I think that's something that we'll evaluate you know once opening um all units are sold this is one of those routes that are always on our count list that we do every 3 years so we'll evaluate and see if conditions change but based on what our traffic model is telling us it wouldn't be a good candidate for an four-way stop and that concludes all the traffic information Robert I just have a quick question when Dell is improved all the way down to Flying Cloud are we anti I think I read into what you said that we're anticipating some increased traffic because of um drive-through traffic people cutting that short rather you know they could go down to Spring they could go to Eden prry Road right well right okay so there's three options now so they may be taking this one that's partly right do we anticipate more than the 225 I think cars out of the neighborhood going south that it now it's improved and it's just an easier not not that they I guess would have gone down to Eden prey Road right they would have probably done Dell on a travel road but so really we're just anticipating an increased cut through coming up from the south yeah generally it's two we we predict there'll be 200 new vehicles that don't use that road today that will once it's improved that maybe they're using Eden prey Road Spring Road maybe Highway 101 I right sure but these are not neighborhood traffic trips these are people that are maybe trying to get to 212 maybe trying to get up to Highway 5 but yes those would be 200 per day that will not exist uh that don't exist today and will happen regardless of what happens with Marshall Gardens if that continues to be farmed we anticipate 200 new trips once that road is improved and do we have any tools to deal with that down the way if you know if we wanted to really try to root cars more to Spring Road because there's not the residential development on either side of it I mean are there tools we could use to try to limit some of that cut I don't anticipate it being a problem I really don't but if it were yeah you know I really don't think there are tools I think that um these are the types of volumes a road like this is going to attract and to put that into perspective I mean we're talking you know south of Marshall Gardens 825 vehicles per day um I'm trying to think of roadways that have that low of a volume right we get I get it's low I understand that so okay uh Council anything else of traffic uh and or at the moment uh something with um development with Julie Lisa no you turn no well I'm I'm thinking Del road is or not Del road yeah it's it's fairly steep though graded that's one reason we would be rebuilding it are we going to re how I mean is it going to how's it going to look the the grade improves slightly the curves are pretty sharp right now so we'll be regrading those so they're they're not as sharp um but this road will have curves I think the Curves in and other them themselves will help keep speeds down that's what I think too it might keep people from using as a 3 to I don't know okay thank you okay um Mr Geto would you um propose we can always come back to both of you if there's questions at any time during this process as you know this evening uh Council you can uh ask questions um we're going to open it up to public in just a moment oh uh presenter from the developer ah your antsy and that I'm appreciate that thank you is there anything else before we have the developer then present uh uh no mayor that would be developer next and then the public hearing got it thank you so much so thanks for being here this evening um go ahead name and then company and um address thank you my name is Kelsey Thompson my address is Lake West development 14525 Highway 7 in Minnetonka uh I just first want to say thank you so much to the staff I know Jeremy's not here tonight but Julie Carter who's also not here tonight it's just been such a breath of fresh air working with this staff it's just been really wonderful experience um thank you for the council members and to the mayor for bearing this cold and cold season to be here tonight um we're excited to be presenting this project um also thank you for to all the neighbors that are joining us tonight both online or in person and for following this project um does somebody have a presentation thank you if you want to flip to the next slide um this is just our timeline outlining um our workshops that you're familiar with the two neighborhood meetings that we've had and most recently when we met with Planning Commission um if all goes smoothly we plan to start construction this summer thanks this is the site plan that was presented to the neighbors and Planning Commission as a reminder our intent with this plan was to preserve the Bluffs and a portion of the historic land use to grow vegetables preserve the substantive open space the neighbors are uh to the west and to the north are accustomed to um and by that giving an abundance of spatial separation also to align with the 2040 Aspire plan for this infill site next slide thanks um so what are some concerns that we heard at the Planning Commission meeting I think Julie hit on those quite well um but I will go through them with you just to explain a little bit more of our why and uh one of the concerns that we heard was the spatial separation for the neighbor to the north of lots 13 14 and 15 just on the East portion of the site the neighbor had a concern that their property was really the only one um that had a home from this development AB budding their property line you know we did note that um we are preserving quite a bit of open Green Space if this was um developed you know with all the Hardscape um or maximiz iing hard cover that you know all the neighbors would have um uh lots of budding properties but in this case this neighbor had this concern um another concern was that we heard at the Planning Commission meeting was the community garden area if you just want to flip to the next slide um in this plan the outlaw for the community garden was just over two acres in size allowing for a couple hundred plots of various sizes one of the key issues that came up was how the space was going to be managed in maintained what it would look like um especially with the size and being open to the the public Community uh another concern with that was just the outside traffic um and the need for parking that the Community Gardens open to the public would create another concern that we heard at the Planning Commission meeting was the desire for more landscaping and buffering trees along the northern property Edge um with this concern the neighbors to the north wanted to ensure that there would be adequate screening from the community garden and those are some of the concerns that we heard at the Planning Commission meeting if we jump to the next slide thank you um what changes did we make to resolve these concerns one change we made was to shift the Villa lots to the west and angling the easterly Lots 12 through 15 to provide adequate buffering and spatial separation um Julie already hit on this but by shifting those lots the former lot 15 is now entirely an outlaw for landscaping and buffering that will be maintained by the HOA providing the adequate screening and buffering um by angling the lots and Villa homes the backyards of the Villas will Overlook the pond and maintain the privacy of the neighbor to the north uh this angling of the Villas may also help promote traffic to travel out and in from Dell Road if we go to the next this is an exhibit uh this exhibit shows a cross-section of the Villa home at lot 15 injects the position to the neighbor immediately to the north so the closest Pinch point was increased by about 25 ft from our last plan um by but again with the angling of the home the Privacy is maintained more versus our previous plan where the back of the homes were facing each other thank you another change we made to resolve the concerns we heard at Planning Commission was to the community garden area we did add more landscaping and buffering trees to the north as Julie pointed out um we are using the best practices and research from the University of Minnesota ARB burum extension program for a more climate resilient and lower usage plant pallet uh we reduced the area from and this is just that Outlaw area that that green arrow is pointing to reduce that from 2.5 acres to just under an acre which decreased the area by more than half another change we made to the Garden area area is that it is internal now to the residents within the Marshall Garden Community um we do feel that still meets our goal of preserving a piece of this historical land use to grow vegetables and it still is a benefit to the community um but this also eliminates the outside traffic and the demand for parking um and it'll have a nice area with a little you know shaded area seating bench for um residents to take a break in the shade away from the Sun and Cody will get a little bit more into that as well on the next slide um but those are some of the changes that we made in response to the concerns that we heard at Planning Commission I'm going to invite Cody up next who's going to walk you through a little bit more details of our plans we are available here tonight for questions and we are excited to be here thank you Kelsey thank you hi Cody Dietrich with Lake West 14525 Highway 7 Min tanka and I'll just continue that in same slide that she was going from and uh staff and Kelsey has answer most things I'm just going to try to add a few more quick points and show you some great renderings to keep it moving um if you go to the next slide you'll see a view looking East over the community garden uh when the community garden was proposed last we were looking at setting up as a nonprofit to run it now it'll be just managed by the HOA along with the rest of the lawn care private sidewalks private roads additionally the uh community garden has a fence around it to protect all the vegetabl BS and flowers from any rabbits deer from eating those and for reference currently it's showing about 35 10x10 plots with 4ft walkways throughout that could shift a little bit depending on needs if some uh resident wants to have a 20 by 20 they could increase that so there's flexibility amongst those and with this current design that serves about 30% uh 30 to 35% of the overall Villa and town home or condo flat residence who's going to own and manage the ner pond than two of them but the one we're looking at right there those will be uh city- owned so they'll be taking a portion of private and public storm water from the roads and so there'll be a storm water maintenance agreement with us as well as a city those will both also be ponds that are retaining ponds retaining the water um just going back to the site plan um higher level notes so you see all the area to the south of the condo flats that is about 13 Acres of preserved Bluffs that we are dedicating to the city and the city will be adding future Trail connections through there when you look at the development overall we are preserving about 59 to 60% uh as green open space or pond space through the community garden the Bluffs uh and throughout the whole entire development here's are some renderings of the project um this is from the front North Side looking South at the main entrances there will be uh 23 units in each of these Center buildings and then 27 in the two buildings with elbows in the Center buildings there will be area for a management office Club room small Fitness room uh outdoor kitchens um and different amenities to service both the Villas and the the condo flats and go to the next slide um this is just looking at the space between two of the buildings uh the elbow building and the straight building um this is all above the parking garage that connects all the way through and it'll be landscaped and provide those different grilling areas outdoor kitchen seating areas and Aesthetics to get to the the south side of the project where the the pool and everything are um this is an overview of the pool um which is in the center of the southside of development this originally was up in the northeast corner but from concerns we heard through the workshops neighborhood meetings those then shifted or the pool shifted back to the middle along with the amenities from a previous Club room to make them Central to the development and then further away from the residence to give that buffer I do want to point out to some of the sustainable features of the development um you'll see solar panels on top of the roof on the entire south side of the roof we have shed style roofs where allows for those solar panels and then you'll see the steeper pitches to provide that architectural level on the North side on the street side um so we have solar panels and portions of the roof with options to add as we go further Additionally the site will be creating new storm water management through the storm water ponds currently a lot of that storm water runs off down the Bluffs and into Riley Creek um and then we'll have EV charging in the garage able to service up to one per unit will be planned for future proofing and then we have star appliances and climate resilient planing so we've been working with Arbor Edom on as part of the community garden and all the additional uh Landscaping with with our engineer Westwoods so um looking to make this as sustainable and green as possible to go with the fact of the Marshal Gardens and creating their legacy long term Cody what kind of um electric output are we talking about with that's a lot of solar panels up there and what will it be able to supply in terms of these residents yeah so we currently estimated to supply probably about half of the common areas um and maybe a little bit more to the residential but that's still to be worked out it's a couple 100,000 kilowatts per year I'm not full solar expert on exactly how how much that means but I I'm not either but we'll be working through that further as we go sounds good yeah uh here's just another rendering of the front side looking to the South um here is our standard floor plans um so the benefit of these units are they are front to back of the building so it allows the units to all have views of the Bluffs and Overlook The Preserves towards the Minnesota River Valley um so the bedrooms will be on the North side and then the living area will be on the South Side um and the kitchen bathrooms will all be in the central portion this is showing the end of the building the two units on the end additionally each um each building will have four um residential access points which will service about six units per access so each six units will have an elevator private elevator for themselves so it tries to keep to a point where we're creating that privacy especially postco where you don't have to be in common Corridor halls with 100 people you're just interacting with those couple neighbors you have uh next slide uh here are a couple renderings of the Villas this is just uh looking from the north to the or South to the north along Crestwood Terrace here's another rendering looking at the same view and then here's a couple examples of floor plans so we have um several options we have a slab option would just be a single story living and then we have an option to add a loft or a basement walk out or Lookout um the intent again is to create that single level living so we have the main bedroom the washer dryer all the bathrooms on that first level with the addition Al the ability to add those additional bedrooms or Recreation space for grandkids liveing children guests coming um whatever that may be so um if somebody was just to build out just the single story slab it's about 24 square fet if somebody chooses to go to the loft or with the basement it's about 3500 foot Villas the cond the condo flats are all around 2,000 square foot two-bedroom dens with the opportunity to create the den into a third bedroom next slide I think that wraps it up and we're happy to answer any questions and anything else that you guys would appreciate have a question yes go ahead uh question I got you use a term stack townhouse I use the term condo uh explain the differences to me cuz I I I I have not heard that term before in comparison to what I'm looking at I don't think I use the term I think actually Julie mentioned that one not to put Julie on the spot um but but the intent I think we've mentioned Town Homes a couple times with this it's meant to keep that town home level scale you know we're about 37 Feet Tall which could be similar to a two-story town home um so it's trying to keep that scale but we're all single level living with that elevator okay so really it's condo it's it's condos yep condo Flats yep that's just what I want to make make clear as far as my head because the way I understood going through this as far as um that it falls heavily under that realm on it yep okay thank you sorry Kelsey again maybe I could just steal the mic just to explain a little bit further and maybe why some town home language is incorporated with these and that it is they are they do live kind of like a town home and that there is no Central Corridor like a iCal condominium building so the elevator the stairs brings you right up to your unit where you go left or right up left or right so it is really like kind of a town home condo hybrid in a way I was going to use that that's fair you kind of live like town home but it is a condo technically yes thank you semantics and definitions um let's see just I had one quick question on an earlier iteration Maybe very early and very rough um maybe before you all were involved I thought I saw a goal of the um people selling the land and the early um discussions with developers that couple Lots would be carved out on the very southern tip south of D maybe even on the creek and that that went away right I mean that this is all dedicated land to the city now yeah that was part of the original plan um some of the marsh or sorry the Del Road improvements uh made that difficult as we started to work around that curvature as Public Works had mentioned earlier in trying to preserve the home and create a couple additional Lots just became too much of a challenge and hard for that Del road to prove so how many acres are we talking about total in outlot D that will be dedicated to the city it's like 12.7 just under 13 it's nice really good for the creek too as well so that's super positive and I know as part of this project then staff will be working the uh Park staff will be working on providing trails that connect through Riley Creek preserve and then going back further to the west or long Crestwood terce too behind those homes right good great Council anything before we have a public hearing you can always ask more later you had a thought you look you definitely look like you have a thought I just have um well right now I have a question about sound proofing how um are you g to have additional installation or anything because it's so close to the airport uh not necessarily because of the airport I think that all gets factored into them being condos so we're going to do higher level Windows maybe a triple pane window we're going to have additional floor sound proofing because they are cond and we' want that higher level of care for people who are buying than you'd see a typical apartment rental so soundproofing is very important because if we don't have it properly soundproofed people aren't going to buy them so what about the Villas will they have additional yep they'll have those same level windows so it's meant to be kind of that similar level uh finish throughout so what so when they're there will what will it be like when a plane comes I mean is it going to be really loud or I mean but it'll be muffled I I believe um I I don't know if I have a good answer for exactly how it is I mean I live um in and planes fly over my head every day and I hear them when I'm outside but I don't ever hear them in my house they're just well there's hundreds of homes right now to the nor yeah I don't know if they're sound you know complaints and right oh sure that's a good question all right no totally understand though um okay let's um go ahead and have a public hearing then we'll um close it at some point and um Council you can have additional questions so public this is a public hearing is there anyone in the audience wishing to address the council this evening U please come forward give your name and your address and uh thank you for being here thank you my name is excuse me Katherine Ellen Becker I'm a resident at 9688 Geisler Road and I have lived there with my daughter her husband uh my two uh special needs grandchildren and my daughter's two two children for the past 8 years I am considerably concerned about the presentation tonight with the traffic because there is a discrepancy that there is currently a very large building project on the corner of Dell and Pioneer those cars were not included those cars and their exiting were not um outlined as to what is it doing to Dell at the moment we are dealing with all of the um construction vehicles and with the um various uh materials uh with the mud uh it it is it's a big problem then going forward um I I'm a former teacher and I did my homework and this project nationally is called the tsunami building project there are a vast number of these 100 2 200 300 homes being built in clusters it's nice to look at the map but if you really look at what that means that quantity of homes in that spacing it is staggering Katherine just so I understand your concern is it the clustering itself is it the fact that there's so many homes in America being built that well the clustering the clustering materials the population and housing density have a substantial influence on the occurrences of residential fires in the environment we have a tremendous fire going on in California they can't get it stopped we're talking about 30 Acres of vegetation South West and East of this building uh project the density variable was changed at the last meeting and the land was reduced to a very high density of homes that are now going to go taller in the last few decades the rapid urbanization the social economic development employment activities have multiplied the use of the material the electricity and they're the probable cause of the increasing fires several studies have found that the built environmental components were significant determinant in the occurrence of residential fires according to data from the United States fire Administration these highlighting the significant number of fires occurring in dense housing areas like these complexes the data indicate that the fires in the dense house housings are considerably concerned due to the proximity of the multiple units and the potential for a rapid spread the amount of land that this is taking up is minimal and if one of those houses starts it will spread like wildfire no different than California and then what about lightning this particular geographic area is very high on the Bluffs my house was hit by lightning last year there are eight Neighbors in our area that have been hit either their homes or the trees now we're talking about the Bluffs and how high can we go the southwestern portion of the Upper Mississippi river valley includes Southwest Minnesota has the highest concentration of positivity polarity CG strikes in Minnesota the global hydrology Resource Center distribution active archive Center tracks and keeps the lightning data per state and per um County from January 1st 2020 to December 31st 2020 Minnesota had 8 million 8,000 792 lightning pulses with a total of 9 99,8 188 hitting the ground the elevation of the BL is the highest area hit in the state of Minnesota our house one block away the neighbors one block away the the building constructions are even taller but between 20 or between September 1st 204 and September 30th 2024 in 20 years the property damage per lightning strike was $2,475 th000 in Damages when and you're looking at a million dollars per home and this is going up to 2 million if if it strikes in a in a less dense area Katherine go ahead and um and I think maybe finish up I'm going to finish right now that in the local news Eden Prairie has it indicated that there is not enough Fire Equipment there's not enough fire members and there is much more money needed for full-time staff and for the time fighting uh equipment fire damages to the homes the duplexes the tow houses the garage the businesses this is a very important global warning condition and the proximity to Purgatory Creek and the environmental areas we are having our head under a barrel if we don't look to California and the density of this project thank you very much thank you Katherine someone else to address the council tonight on uh this project thank you give your name and um address could you bring up the picture of the development can I get the sides please so I'm Beth Ree and my address is 9744 laet drive so I'm on the corner that's been adjusted for the um exposure issue that was an issue at the last meeting I'm thankful that they listened and have made adjustments I appreciate that but I'd also like to point out one more issue that a lot of our neighbors aren't here tonight we bringing up last meeting was the traffic flow and I think there's going to be a lot more traffic coming through this canopy Trail is the name of it it goes on to lafet which is the main wraparound but um if you look at the exits coming out of the condominium development there's three exits and two of them are going to steer 90% of the traffic going east and that's going to go into the developed neighborhood that a lot of f single family homes are I think we want to move it so that that middle exit is more towards Dell which can accommodate more traffic lot more traffic it's still only going to be a two-lane road compared to north of Pioneer Trail on Dell you've got four lanes so that can accommodate a lot more we need to move that middle exit Point much further over so that the traffic doesn't want to all go to the east because your exit points if you look at your basement parking you've got underground parking everybody's got to park underneath there they get two stalls that's 200 Lo they could all go out we have no control over them going into our neighborhood unless we make that a one way coming in and out just make it so they can only come in for emergency vehicles that would be my proposal if this isn't adequate to just move that over so that you're steering more traffic towards Dell I don't believe that I can't believe that this hasn't been addressed yet so um I know you listen to to me on the last conversation and every time we've come this is my fourth visit they've made accommodations so I know you'll still process this thank you thank you hey um Cody or Kelsey um let see can you put that map back up um so where the outdoor parking is and and where um she's talking about the exit there on the kind of upper right side can can you access underground parking from that parking lot or are all those cars exterior parking yeah so the the left and the center access points access that grade parking but then the both of them have a spot where you see the dog park down to the bottom left next to the pond those loop around and there's access to the underground parking there at the Bottom southwest corner so the garage actually has accesses on both ends of the building so you can go in and out either way parking that's in the middle that would X I wish I could point at in the underground or the no I'm talking about the the exterior like like what you might think of as visitor parking yep that doesn't have access to underground parking only the two correct yep so that's so so really that exit there I mean again if you think that most of the condo owners will have their cars parked in the garage that exit's not a relevant exit to move is my question uh it doesn't it won't get used that often I think that's you're getting to um very important for fire though so we have all those access points so people can walk out so they park in front of a visitor if they parked out to go into the residential I understand that but then fire needs that access so they can get through and there's no the majority will be underground parking light if they live there okay that's my my only Point thank you uh let's see anyone else in the audience wishing to address the council this evening come forward give your name and your address hi hi my name is cind Leever I live at 9703 Geisler Road and my concern um is and has been um traffic and density the traffic they explained how it goes less and less and less as it goes south on Del Road well the road also gets smaller it's a it's a single a it'll be a two-lane road and it'll be residential versus North it's um it's not residential so it's completely different and density um that area has always been low density housing it's just been changed to medium density and considering that the number of houses are built on basically just over half of the land that we're talking about it's at the upper end of medium density and for a condo to be set that far from the city center and there's no shopping there's no uh transportation it's highly unusual to be in that kind of location so again it's the density and the traffic and those are my concerns they have been the whole time I don't know how to address it with the pictures that they have although they're beautiful it just doesn't seem appropriate to me for that area of Edom Prairie which is why we bought in that area of Eden Prairie and that will completely change so those are my concerns thank you Cindy hey Robert uh where'd you go before um I forget because the traffic came up again um the question was raised did any of our traffic calculations include or think about the um town home development on the Southeast corner of Dell and pioner so the uh the traffic generated from that py development uh most of that traffic is coming directly off Pioneer Trail and they're the first left turn in so most of that traffic doesn't even pass near um this development or you know the residents that um have spoken we did factor in growth rates um and accounted for some I get we made some conservative estimates of what the traffic would be just air on the safe side and then I'll also point out that the Dell Road you see on the Northern end of town Highway 62 to Valley View Valley View to the railroad bridge that is also a two-lane road almost identical to what's being proposed with this section of Del road again it's mostly single family housing but um we have volumes of 3400 3200 a two-lane road can safely handle six to 7,000 Vehicles a day there's a lot of capacity still remaining even after this development on Dell Road it's not really a capacity issue um so my questions and you answered thank you but even though maybe the actual hard numbers it sounds like you did think about them but maybe they're not directly calculated into the 3400 number there but you were aware of that and and you um considered that it sounds like yes okay all right um sure we still have an open public hearing okay we so to the end of it is that fine I mean I I'm interrupting that's fine you can or you want to wait doesn't matter whatever you'd like to do if it's relevant to the public hearing I think it's helpful for them to hear some it might be um I'm thinking back from earlier workshops what is the average price that these Condominiums are probably going to sell it yeah so the the condo flats are about eight and a half to or 850k excuse me to about 1.2 million and then the Villas will be about 1.1 1.2 to up to about 1.5 million okay so these are people who deliberately want to go to this area if they're willing to pay those prices correct we we see our target market is more empty nesters um a little bit more senior demographic so we don't anticipate those same traffic counts as well um those are it codes and which is fair for using for this um traffic report but we expect there to be a little less traffic as people aren't traveling as much thank you this is still a public hearing thank you um thanks Cod thanks Kathy um anyone else to address the council this evening thank you give your name and uh address uh my name is uh Richard copy I live at 9872 Crestwood Terrace or Crestwood Terrace um I live at on the first called toac as you go on Crestwood Terrace from Del Road I've attended I think this is my fifth meeting on the project and I commend the developer for listening to people I I'm not necessarily in favor of the density as somebody else spoke about tonight but I think it's a reasonable plan I like the upscale nature of the plan so I um and I like the way the developer has listened to some of our comments um this is the last place to develop in this neighborhood so we want to make it right I think you would all agree with that and to me I have three items I want to bring up tonight they're not necessarily specific to the development but they're certainly about to development first one is uh Del Road design second one is Crestwood Terrace where I live and the third one is the trail system in the whole area the trail system meaning pedestrian movement and so forth so uh I moved here five years five six years ago and I loved the area my wife and I were looking for a retirement home where we could get everything on one floor we found it Eden Prairie is a great City I love the trail systems you you've developed I love the park systems uh I went to the city at that time because I saw the gravel road and I knew Dell Road was a state aid Street I happened to be a ex city engineer from my background my profession so I went to the city and I said what's going to happen to Del Road and what's going to happen to the trail system along the creek as our house backs up to the creek and they told me at that time that Dell Road would be paved and become a road like your showing a two-lane roadway once the development occurs on the Farm property so we're here tonight talking about that they also said the trail system would be developed around that time as well but they didn't have have the RightWay right now to do it so as I go through my comments I'm going back to that discussion I had a few years ago because we're here tonight now with this development so let me start with Del Road um I really think the traffic volumes are fair but I believe you're missing one important point and that's the speed of the traffic uh I walk my dog my wife and I walk along Dell Road Lots of people there's a lot of pedestrian activity out there and every once in a while you'll see a car going 50 mil an hour there's no stop signs but they will stop because of that gravel area once they hit that it's kind of like going over a you know a chute downward and you'll see them stop when they get past Crestwood terrs but now you're not going to have that so I really think I'm not suggesting you put stop signs up every intersection but I even suggested back o as you look at a traffic Island at stable path or maybe at Crestwood Terrace where this development is going in because traffic roundabouts have proven to be efficient in not only moving traffic but slowing traffic down so something to think about I I I really think the Del Road design should be looked at real carefully because once you take that Gravel Road flatten the curves out a little bit uh less than the impact of the vertical alignment speeds are going to be an issue I really believe that and maybe you won't see it tonight I mean maybe you won't deal with it tonight but you will deal with at sometime in the future and I hate to see it happen with a pedestrian vehicular interaction that becomes a a serious problem um I also on Del Road want to point out one real important thing and I think the developer has touched on that already but I'd really like to the Del design focus on that and that is the Landscaping I look I came in and met with your city engineer he's not here tonight but I met with him and the planner and I looked at the plan carefully you're taking out a ton of trees if you think about it if you've driven down there you know why because you're going to flatten the curves out you're going to have to cut down those Hills there there's tremendous slopes along Del Road I think the engineer said to 200 and some trees would come out they're not all big but the point I want to leave you with is think about Landscaping because Dell Road right now south of 212 all the way down is a beautiful landscape roadway you've got Evergreens in fact when we bought our property five six years ago that was one of the reasons we bought there we thought it looked beautiful so I hope you don't Denude it now by taking all these trees out and not putting a lot back in you also have a power line don't have many power lines in even Prairie but there's a power line on Dell Road on the east side from from about Geisler All the Way South to the farm property now I'm not sure if it's just for the farm or what it's for but I suspect that's what it's for that's going to come down and on the plan the city showed me the trees along that side were going to come down so I I hope you look at the Landscaping because I would sure like to see Del Road maintain the beauty it has right now all the way to Flying Cloud Drive uh second item is Crestwood Terrace I live on Crestwood Terrace the the engineer said tonight it's going to go from 100 cars up to 235 vehicles per day that's what I saw on the screen I may have missed it a bit but um the number isn't a a a meaningful uh number to scare people the volume you can handle that what scares me is there's no stop signs on cres terce all the way from Dell Road to Pioneer Road and it's a curving Road and we have a lot of little kids a lot of uh traffic with pedestrians and again it's like Del Road we're in more than doubling the traffic and yet I don't see anything out there that that's going to stop speeding and so I think again something you can't deal with maybe on day one but it it's it's a concern that I've heard from several of my neighbors so that's number two um the third item is the trail system uh you've got just beautiful trails in the area you've got the Minnesota River Bluffs Regional Trail you've got Richard Anderson and that whole area with Trail systems you got Crestwood Park and the trail systems you got the Riley Creek Conservation area which you put a whole bunch of money into a few years ago that's all redone between that Riley Creek Conservation Area and the um the Minnesota River Buffs Regional Trail that is now you have all the RightWay you need you're getting the final piece in this project I'm really disappointed that the city isn't including in this project to some degree a a concept of a trail I asked the developer why don't you show a trail along the creek because that wasn't the plan long range plan for the city and he said that's not something we're doing we're dedicating the property the city is going to do that so I would just say to you put a priority on that you have all the RightWay you need from that park on the East all the way over to I think all the way over to Lake uh Lake Riley you have all the RightWay you need I can't think of one parcel you don't have with this project so I don't know why you can't come up with a plan we that live there would like to know it knowing that there's a pending Trail coming my wife and I for example you know we don't have a ton of years left so we we we'd kind of like to enjoy it while we can and and we hear it's coming but I I asked the question again here in the last year and there's no date given to me by your staff maybe there is a date but I haven't heard it and secondly it would be nice to see what you intend to do and how it ties in I think even the developer would like to see that he's got a development going in with a pool and everything right along the Creek area but you haven't shown what your idea would be so that's my third item I know they're not all tied directly to the specific development but I think they're all important items and uh I I would like to thank your staff for being friendly to to me and my neighbors and the developer for listening to us and thanks for tonight thank you anyone else to address the council this evening on this project seeing none you can run up really fast before we take this vote let's go ahead and um have a motion to close just the public hearing I'll move to close a public hearing sir second second any more discussion all those in favor say I I I oppos okay the public hearing is closed Council um I think if it's okay with you and Mark I don't want to put you on the spot if you're not ready we'll go to Lisa but if you if we just go down the line and just kind of share some thoughts if you want to skip or pass you don't certainly have to but this is a pretty U big project I think um be nice for the community to hear you know kind of what each of us are thinking if if you all want a few moments I can go first so unless you're ready go first I'll then I'll you sure you can go first okay okay you okay with that yeah all right um I just took some notes um based on responses to the comments this evening so first I do want to thank um what do we have four people however many um I should look at my notes but people spoke up thank you for coming uh it's always nice to hear from our community members these um kinds of projects typically in my 29 years sitting up here in the council typically we don't get a whole lot of people saying love the project it's all perfect you people come because there are concerns and issues and and that uh goes with the territory but um it is nice that you took the time uh to share with us uh second I I I want to uh add kind of just in the process here um we don't like operate in a complete vacuum where we uh have never seeing this project until tonight that's not the way it works right we we had a couple um Workshop meetings early on where we were not in any way giving approval or disapproval to a specifics of a project but developer uh came in and actually the own let's see the owner had a designated um spokesperson who came in as well in one of our meetings um back in a workshop but we really were having some ideas floated in front of us just to get a temperature read at the time this is like a year ago um just to get a sense on do we are we open to veering from what the typical expectation 40 years ago might have been for this property literally when the guide plan was um set up to just plaster 55 homes on Halfacre lots and fill up every square inch of the entire uh parcel uh even uh to the extent where the developer probably had land rights to go down that bluff and we've really made a um a concerted effort over my time on the council but really since for the last 50 years Eden Prairie's made an the council members have made a strong effort to preserve the bluff we we have six miles of bluff land along the Minnesota River this isn't on the river exactly but it's it's that bluff feel um and we've really tried our best to conserve the bluff so anytime we can do land transfers um density transfers so in other words uh a developer might have an option for 30 some acres to to build two and a half units per acre and then you take that that um perceived um ability to build that many acres or house and you transfer it up to the buildable land up on top of the bluff so in that sense uh you could even argue and there are some legal ramifications here that the the owners this property had the rights to put in 60 70 some um single family homes so that was the starting point where back about a year ago the developers and the owners wanted to basically get a read on where we open to something different and at first um we had some concerns about a a condo type building right markk you know just that three- story large kind of building on this beautiful you know Marshall Farmland but we talked and talked about it and and we had the discussion that everything's a tradeoff right you don't like this Council we believe in sustainability we'd love to get some solar we'd love to get um you know freshwater uh options or like the ner Pond we we'd really like to get some sustainability ideas also we like to get some diversity in housing we're an aging Community it's nice to get homes that that possibly empty nesters might be interested in um it's good to get open space I mean the the houses on I think there are 10 houses contiguous to this property on the North side they're used to looking at all this vast open space we thought it would be nice to get an open space buffer in there so you start adding all the things we kind of want you don't get it all so then we started discussing well would we trade off like a little bit higher density to get in in especially in the condo building to get some of the other um amenities and attributes that we wanted so we sent the developer away saying we're open to the three-story Building Concept um knowing that we would be U potentially getting um other options as well and then I think they went away for I don't know eight nine months I think we had another Workshop in there uh at some point so in other words we haven't not thought about this that's that's my point tonight this is not like brand new to us we've given a whole lot of thought to um do we like this in concept we haven't seen this project until the Planning Commission well I guess no I guess that's probably Fair the Planning Commission minutes we got the first chance really to get a read on what this new Final look looked like of course it there was another iteration that came out after the Planning Commission so we've had we've had a chance to to think about it study it we have not talked open meeting law prevents us from communicating with each other so tonight's really the first night that we get the opportunity to get a read on each other I will say right now to the three of you um be very open and transparent with each with all of us because uh four votes are required this evening we have a five- member Council one of our council members is not here tonight um we need four votes uh this is state law state statute um to change guid plan am I wording that correctly you're looking yes yeah you need four votes for the comp plan Amendment comp plan Amendment thank you I knew there was another way of wording it so all of you would need to vote for that if one of you does not you know talk to us this evening and not that we'll try to convince you but we probably need to know that um in your um introductory comments um now to pass once the comp plan Amendment if that were to pass then the actual project itself just needs a majority vote three votes um so a couple concerns came up specifically the fire concerns I mean my house I'm the only council member in the last 40 years that I know of that had my house burn um serious fire back in uh June 5th 11:32 p.m. 2001 so I'm very sensitive to fires it was um a gas fire leak from the dryer it wasn't lightning um nonetheless I'm very sensitive to that I will say one of the really great parts of town homes and condos is they're sprinkled I mean if we could get every new home in the city to mandatory be sprinkled I would do that would add significant cost to homes but we've uh actually been uh lobbying with that with the state legislature but at any rate every home in this development sprinkled that that's a massive wonderful thing in terms of fire um prevention or if if a fire did occur um we have an incredible fire department and we are well funded and we are well staffed and we have up to date state-of-the-art materials so I have full confidence in our fire department and we have a station really close to this development so uh as much as fires certainly wildfires are on our mind because of California everything I've read and you've read it too it's 100 m hour winds that did them in not just a wild we have wildfires in the state of Minnesota quite often up North but it was the winds and we don't get the Santa anas's yet luckily um and then with traffic um we we were concerned about traffic when we went from the 55 6570 actually the 55 homes were spread but if you took the density transfer I think you could get 65 to 70 if you take the bluff in there but the point is let's just go with 70 70 homes uh single family uh selling at 7 800,000 four bedroom three bath um would sell likely to young families when you look at the estimated number of traffic trips per day from that that typical four bedroom three bath Halfacre lot home it's it's higher than this it's it's like the tend Robert I'm looking at you but it's like the 10 to 12 unit uh traffic trips per day so do the math you actually get as many or more out of the 55 or 65 or 70 homes and you would out of this senior empty nested development you just do so I I'm not um Try by the way some this this land is going to generate traffic just like your land did every one of you sitting in the room tonight your land used to be an apple orchard and I was on well technically yeah was I on the I think I got elected about the time the apple orchard was being torn down but I was privy to all the anger of neighbors around it losing our precious Eden Prairie apple orchard to this day people who are were still around from the 80s and 90s are upset about losing our apport that's any of you that live on Geisler any of those roads you you tore down our precious not you we lost our apple orchard so that's what development is in in a Suburban City that we don't own the land the city either decides to buy the land and keep it as Park land which takes it off tax rolls it's expensive We Do It um or we allow owners of lands to develop their land to The Highest Potential value that they're Allowed by law to do otherwise it's considered a taking and we would be sued so this is a reasonable project uh for the owners of this land uh relative to as I said what we thought might go in there so the traffic is I think typical for what we expected Robert showed numbers that um we certainly are prepared by the way we're prepared across our entire city of um 35.2 square miles um we're prepared for the uh city of around at one point we were prepared for about 85,000 we'll probably end up in the 75 to 78,000 range we're prepared for that we're prepared with our water towers with our sewer systems with our with our roads with um our maintenance capabilities with our Parks we we have prepared for this this is this type of growth is exactly what we had planned for and it's happening as um who who was it who said at the end and here we are uh we're here tonight um working through this um and then finally the the density as I said I think that was a trade-off that um I think we got for our city important uh aspects in that trade okay I'm done um Lisa wow did I did I talk I'm sorry no you someone said you're a retired teacher I'm a retired teacher can you tell sixth grade I I loved it they were they had to listen to me sorry you all don't have to but go ahead no you addressed you addressed a lot of things that you know I'm sure we were thinking about but um I I would like to say thank you for adjusting the plan when after the Planning Commission meeting and I think it looks really good um I'm happy that no Heritage trees are going to be removed um the AR what is it the Environmental Studies have been completed right okay um and Mr Ellis answered my question about stop signs um I do do I didn't think about the lightning you don't think about that but it's pretty high up there right I don't know I'm not sure about that but I I lived in a house once that got struck by lightning so well the highest part in in the whole city is up north off of Baker where we have a water tower sitting up on the ground up there that's the equal height of the water tower that's by the mall by the way so yes lightning hits relative to other high spots so this is a high spot but nonetheless um we're prepared yeah okay um no I just thank you for for listening to the neighbors and um and and adjusting your your plans uh I'm I'm not sure I think I'm finished I may have one more comment but Kathy council member Nelson thank you council member Tumi yes um I too think it's important to have this development um sprinkled and what you've gotten um um plan for is something that will keep people who live there safe you seem to have taken into account what people need to live there and what they're willing to pay consequently to get what the average person would want um I believe saving the Bluffs is important uh I don't know we've done that everywhere we could we don't want homes sliding down the Bluff at some point um safety for the people who live there it's safety for the people where homes would slide down places like California don't take that into account either at least it seems not to be so much um an opportunity to make Trails I don't think until we've got all the pieces together that we put our Trails on our operating plan for how many years out they're going to take but once we get this owned it will appear on those lists because we've known it's going to come and it's something we've wanted um and the people you know who use them want them as well it's not the only place there's trails in the city they're all over the place but they are used um and so I'm glad that we could make some of these last changes to make it a little better for some of the neighbors but I will say that be it from Council or from staff or from Neighbors there's been more than typical listening ability by the developers probably a lot more than I think I've ever heard before of looking at all the possibilities and bringing that in um so I am comfortable with this especially with the last level of TR um changes to make things better for some of the neighbors and um uh I'm just glad that there was so much consideration over the last year year and a half to get as much as we could for this land thank you council member fryberg thank you mayor um there's a lot to like about this project um the design as such um I like the way you shifted the properties um and cut back a little bit on the Garden area I thought that was important at new fors and leaving the outlaw to the side the one one thing that I was brought up I Believe by Mr Coffey it's an interesting thing that we haven't talked about speed capacity seems to be not a problem uh it might be just sum but as far as looking at it the capacity and the roads would work speed's a whole different thing and um it's a problem throughout all of Eden Prairie and probably all suburbs around and cities around speed seems to be elevated is there any way that the you know the speed itself like along Dell could be looked at I guess that's the right term I want to say it should be addressed that um what caught my attention is when you you know was that once you get to a different plane on the road all of a sudden speed opens up maybe it's stop signs I'm not sure I'm going to leave that over to as far as you're thinking Mr Ellis on that group but it should be something that should be addressed as the project moves forward um and I think that's in the whole Spirit of that speed is a problem in the city and it'll it won't add to it it shows that we're addressing it within what can be done uh to not just make that worse overall I like the project I think it's a good fit um and um you know I guess what I saw the last changes off on that I'm feeling really good about what you've done with the buffer thank you I'll just um Robert you can add in here too but um I was um at a United States conference and mayor conference in Washington DC this last weekend and they had a session on um uh various digital technology capabilities um particularly um you know relative to city streets uh and it's not it's not all it's not cheap but the the technolog is exploding I mean we know that there are license PL readers and we we're not going down that routee by the way I don't want to receive letters in the mail saying I got a ticket and I didn't even know I went through a you know a speed area but but they do have the digital readouts that actually can send letters to people saying hey you were going here's a picture you were going you know 48 and a 33 or 30 m hour and um and and at least to work to slow it down again those readers are not inexpensive they're they are but but Robert we we have right now different capabilities around the city with the digital readout that seem to be working again the technology piece of it can be greatly enhanced as we go through the next few years with giving data back sending it by Wi-Fi right to you know City Hall uh we could have I'm just making this up because they're expensive but if we have 20 of them around the city and constantly sending data back in um and then the police every morning you know when they go out on their shifts just look and here's hot spots in the city at 10: a.m. over on Dell you know whatever there's things I think we can approach speeding as an issue as a society but certainly um here in Eden Prairie as we go into the next few years and we've we've had talks about that too and with our police our police are amazing and they'll go out and you know sit in hot spots for a while there's only what seven or eight squads on the road at given time we can't send everybody out all over but we there are tools we have in our toolbox I don't know that you want to put stop signs plaster them across the city I don't know people have suggested lowering speed limits to 20 miles an hour I don't think we want to do that um for each of our sakes but also people won't drive that we'll have the police so busy trying to ticket everybody but there are tools we have that I think we could you utilize so thank you for that uh comment and I think it will be watched as we um remember Del road is a separate in a separate issue separate project than this project but they will go hand inand because we've been waiting to upgrade Dell until the uh rightaway money came in from this project which will pay for a good chunk of Dell up up around the Marshall farm so it should happen pretty soon that we'll upgrade Dell um okay yes Lisa I have a question for you don't you think though the shape of the road and how it's curved it it it'll lend itself to driving slower anyways that's a Robert question but I think you're right yeah I do I think the fact that it's staying a two-lane road and not being expanded to a three lane which adds more width and it makes a driver feel more comfortable going faster is going to help I think the curves the natural curves that exist today north of this development and the curves going down the hill help keep people driving a safer speed a lower speed and there's also the grade we're not flattening this out to um 8% 6% grade it's still a 10% grade through stretches of this roadway so again there's just there's a lot of natural Contours and topography that we are working around that will help keep people drive slower but we also have tools like the dynamic speed display signs that we've employed North on Dell Road in a couple of locations where we have a documented speeding problem um and I think the first thing that we're going to do is we're going to capture some speed data at various locations along this corridor from Pioneer Trail South and identify do we have a speeding issue where are those issues occurring and how big of an issue and that'll help us decide well what type of treatments do we need to look at to maybe address that and I would argue we have history right now with Spring Road I think the feel of this new Dell will likely be similar if you've driven down Spring Road by the spring and then by Lin um and so we have history that that um they're speeding on that road and we get complaints on that and we have tools again that we've been putting into play on um spring but we we'll be thank you for raising it and we um will be aware very much and and on this one we have a great um public uh works department and great Police Department okay Council are we ready any any I didn't really hear any questions of staff so are we pretty much ready to vote if so would you somebody make a motion starting with the second bullet U okay I'll move to adopt a resolution for guide plan change from low density residential to medium density residential on 9.78 acres and from low density residential to parks and open space on 12.78 acres and adopt a resolution for Planned unit development PUD concept review on 8.03 acres and approve the first reading of an ordinance for PUD District review with waivers on 8.03 acres and Zoning District changes from rural to r19.5 on 8.03 Acres rural to RM 2.5 on 9.78 acres and Rural to parks in open space on 12.78 acres and adopt a resolution for a preliminary plant of one parcel into 16 lots and five out lots and 32.11 acres and adopt a resolution in support of Park Education fees on 32.11 acres and direct staff to prepare a development agreement incorporating staff and commission recommendations and Council um documents our second second any further final discussion if not all those in favor say I I oppose pass is unanimous with the four of us all right again um residents thank you for coming um developer thank you for your presentation and staff um Julian Robert thank you for um your work and presentations this evening all right moving on payment of claims which is the list of our expenses basically the checks that were metaphorically cut or over the last month so or a couple weeks um Council any um expenses that you'd like to learn more about it was pages and pages long as it is every couple weeks if not is there a motion to approve the payment of claims as submitted I'll move to approv payment of claims as submitted there second second roll call Mayor case I council member fryberg I council member Nelson I council member Tumi I you threw me with putting me first first I think that's a new one isn't it I'm usually last no I like I'm okay with whatever all right we have um pretty exciting uh ordinances and resolution tonight just because it's the culmination of a lengthy uh educational process uh Mr Geto uh thank you may and council members yes another project that's been under consideration for quite some time I I think I mentioned at the budget meeting in December that this has been under consideration for close to to a decade um the good news for us is the work is in a building that we completely own and we've um we've owned for quite some time so it's a a pretty exciting remodel project of the uh remainder of our city center for um police and firey use I don't want to steal any Thunder from the presentation you're going to receive our our partners our construction managers and our architect are going to walk through the project how we got to where we are are um how our bids came and what next steps are in actions required of council again as um I mentioned earlier we have devoted uh a number of workshops so I think several of the um design iterations you as a council have seen them in fact I would say you approved them and you approved us moving forward to the point we're at right now um where we're considering accepting bids and awarding the project but our our presentation is going to kind of walk us through how we how we got to where we are great so I believe we have Dan and Mike maybe give your name and um the company you work for and thanks for being here good evening um Michael Healey with bkv group and addresses 222 North Second Street Minneapolis Minnesota great and I'm not sure who's tuning up station thank you so I'm I'm the architect with bkb group so I'm going to give you a brief overview of the project and kind of where we're at and then I'll pass over to Dan he'll give you an update on the project budget and bid results so agenda we'll go over the project goals one more time just a design overview the bid results and then the propos project schedule so Refresh on the overall project goals was at police 20-year operational space needs and provide indoor parking for the police squads um part of the piece was to also look at improving way finding throughout City Hall and the police department themselves um improving the work environment and recruitment for staff and health and wellness initiatives improving the work space and operational flow for both City Hall and police provide secure outdoor parking for the police and also relocate all city offices and meeting spaces to the main level design overview uh so last time we met uh we shared the same information the overall kind of scheme of the design hasn't changed much um we're again relocating All City Department offices to one level and improve improving the public accessib building WF finding creating a new kind of dedicated police entrance off of the public parking lot and uh total square footage that we're affecting is around 12 112,000 square ft about 85,000 of that is for the police and part of that uh 35,000 ft is just for the garage space in the lowest lowest level um city offices in public space account for about 27,000 Square ft and diagram here uh police will take over the entire kind of west side of the building the center core piece will maintain kind of the public fun functions the meeting spaces uh some of the city offices and then the Eastern side of the building will will be a city hall that we're in now and that will stay at is so Mike or Rick is the Garden Room then in I mean will it exist at all will it the mayor the Garden Room will be recreated same square footage on this level on on this current this current level okay along along with the Heritage rooms so that addition piece was bringing it facilities the Heritage room and the Garden Room all up here between the space we're in now and the police department and then that bottom area will become future leasable space so I think you see that on the bottom slide where you see what the current Garden Room is in that gray or blue could be leasable space along with the rest of the old what will be the old PD and will the purple be touched renovated by us so that we can lease it out or will we wait until a leasee wants see what they want and then they pay as part of their rent or you or whatever how does that work the ladder what you just said that's what we've done um on the number of other leases we had is to find the user and then do the tenant improvements um as part of what they want to see and build it into their lease exactly the latter sorry thank you great questions as far as the site improvements we are looking to uh improve and reduce some of the privious area on the western parking what western and Northern parking lot on the site on there's existing playground area that we're going to be demolishing and reconstructing with with uh green space with Native plantings and trees um putting a small addition on the building to include uh some police canine area and also requirement for Minnesota building code is to provide a tornado storm shelter um so that piece is being constructed and reinforced to act as the storm shelter um you'll see there is a a storm water area that we're constructing on the very Northern side of the site that is to accommodate uh the police parking lot kind of reconstructions and also the building renovation addition piece and then we also are providing a little bit more snow storage on the site by removing some existing pavement and parking on the southern side and that will help during the winter months of storing and piling up snow there um see if I missed anything there I think that covered that go back sorry go will the do the police have a dedicated exit one of those two that because they need to get out fast and that was one of the advantages of this new plan right is they have a better access to get yeah they they vehicles in and out have that secure parking area is going to be surrounded by a security fence but then there's two exit points out of that area so there'll be two vehicle Gates that can pivot up and down um and then they can still exit around the South Side by the fire station or they can go out either the two North drives towards Technology Drive okay this will definitely help with the hidden Corner that they currently have right now coming right right thank you yep so this is just a little bit zoomed in uh scale of the plan here at the lower level majority of the lower level is that indoor garage space for keeping the the expensive squads and all the sensitive equipment proper temperature and in a secure area um within the garage we're counting for 53 stalls for squads and 20 of those will be equipped with electric vehicle Chargers and then we have two additional stallers smaller stalls for trailers and small equipment um lower level also has a temporary detention area and after hours interview and release Lobby there'll be a dedicated vehicle processing Bay and can9 area um as well as expanded area for the police Duty Bags equipment storage and uh workspace for drones and other technology so we're going to cut off access from the blue going east right there won't be access into the existing first floor anymore that is correct yep Public Access will be restricted kind of by that existing elevator that's in the atrium space and then the other existing area to the left um this will be retrofitted or for offices or something or yeah that band is actually existing mechanical electrical rooms and some facility storage so that's going to stay as is with some renovations to the equipment that's in the space but there won't be any any improvements to the rooms and level two the majority of this space is the new police department and that's shown in blue um the other spaces that are shown here are also part of the renovation projects that we have those meeting rooms both on the south and north side those are divisible rooms so they can meet in the smaller uh group format or in a larger group format um there's a shared fitness facility and small Locker lockers and shower facilities for the entire staff to use both City Hall and police department um maintaining that public Atrium space there we're not doing many improvements there other than just kind of fitting in the fitness room and and update in those meeting rooms in that space and then facilities has some space there in the Triangle for for storage and there's also additional City Hall record storage in that space we'll be moving the foundation office into one of those rooms there too closer to the council chambers and then both facilities in it are moving their their uh workstations and office space to that kind of Southern uh piece in the center there and all of that will have a new entrance piece that we're we're using the existing entrance on the building putting a new signage on it to say police entrance um and that will be connected to the the main circulation spine here coming towards the city hall and council chambers so be much improved way finding throughout the building any questions on this level just everything off the everything to the east it stays the same what I'm looking at right now is the is off to the right on the and it just stays the same got it the staircase down to the potential least areas stays and the elevator yes yes for now I think what what could change is depending on what the use is below we have we might have to figure out what to do with the open area that we have right out there that would be below if that is leas space we'll see what comes of that for now there no plans to do any renovation the museum will still be down there and then the records and you'll still have to get access somehow because the staircase will I'm assum but you're saying the large open area with the large historic um photographs yeah it's to be determined it's to be determined but you're right mayor you still want to have access to the museum and other areas below also that's a pretty cool attribute to the to this upstairs here to have that big open space you look over the rail and you're saying that's possible that could go away it it depends on what happens for lease it but it may not okay because I I do think that's a a nice characteristic of this area up here where the residents come in and go to the different departments and they have that nice Atrium to look over and yeah I'm micromanaging sorry but I'm just sharing that I do like that the other thought too you know we've talked about this is there are other uh possible entities that we lease to I don't want to say who they are that work with the city that might be other uh public or for-profit groups and they might to be be be able to fit in that space that might not be private rental and then you'd probably see that area stay open I think the odds are that the area stays open but if um let's say the police department area itself which has its separate entrance could be privately leased with its own entrance we may never need to or want to touch the atrium area but but if we do that would be a a decision that you would be faced with okay I have a question since you just mentioned it you said the restaurant was moving up it doesn't seem to be listed on here no I'm sorry council member Nelson so the restaurant um would not be a part of the building the restaurant mainly has been catering off off site so the Garden Room facilities would move up but not the restaurant the restaurant the restaurant actually is currently relocating already oh okay I got a question if I could um 85,000 square feet are going to PD of that are you comfortable looking out five years it's just say even a little further in five years that we're not locking in too much as far far as restricting the growth on the other side as far as the city that's just something you know that's something I'm concerned when I just looking at what 885,000 square foot look like what's your thinking of it it's a great question council member Friberg and I think you know the chief can answer this as well but the feeling is when we planned out this space and plan this project it's for the next 20 years so the feeling is that we have room to grow and we have a comfort level with growth but but you're right because I think this comment came up earlier that when we occupied this building almost over 30 years ago now we had you know many less police officers much less space um less than 50 officers now more than 70 and and we have space needs so when we do this remodeling renovation we want it to last for at least another 20 or 30 years and we think this accommodates all those needs okay thank you yeah one more point point on that too the that triangle space that we've called out for facilities there that's right now used for storage we are equipping that with mechanical systems and everything to be converted to office space in the future if needed so that will be all ready to go with the appropriate sized heat pumps and everything like that so it could be converted to office space so here we have a couple conceptual renderings then just kind of walk through the project uh this will be as you enter the the public Lobby from that that police entrance off of the public parking lot this is uh to the left you would enter into the police sub Lobby and then a little bit forward to the right you're seeing the new meeting rooms the community meeting rooms and then we're proposing some uh some kind of City historical timeline wall and some other art features and branding features throughout the public space as well and this the space then leads into the police sub Lobby so on the left you're seeing kind of the exterior windows and the exterior wall um there'll be a reception window there with Ballistic resistant glass and reinforced walls and so forth to provide proper security barriers to the security area um and then we have some conference space and then some some interview rooms and and uh just some kind of additional seating space and form storage in that Lobby then as we get into the police secure area this is kind of their main Concourse that runs along the spine of the building where there's the existing clear story Windows um so this is a very active space there'll be a lot of circulation going through here uh so part of this project we added a new stair and elevator down to the lower level garage space um so this is looking towards that elevator core and right now we're uh playing around with featuring kind of an art art feature on that large wall that' be twostory high on the elevator pieces you go on the stairs that's what you're seeing in the background there and to the right just some some office space with trying to bring in glass walls where we can to maximize daylighting in the office space and make that a comfortable space to work here's a view looking the other direction towards the West um again having some of the glass in the office spaces and conference rooms and meeting rooms having small collaborative areas where we can um to the right around the corner there is the patrol team area that's where they would do their reports and uh do some of their office work um so that'll be a nice Active Space and this here is the police break room bringing in a lot of kind of natural tones and Earth Tones make it a very inviting and comfortable space relax uh to the left we are looking at having kind of an outdoor roof Terrace area if possible on the existing roof there um so there could be some outdoor access and then and then soft seating and a mixture of uh seating opportuni ities in the break room this is that Patrol work area space where they have some collaborative team areas and then you're seeing the private offices for Sergeants along the back walls and we're going to the fun piece F results the fun piece you say um Dan kelberg with K Anderson 501 South Street um I'm the project manager I kind of went through all the bidding process and building the work Scopes hopefully I can do this without screwing it up um bids were open on December December 18th uh at 2m we did have 26 different work Scopes uh set up for for biders uh 108 total bids were received on that day which it averages out to be about 4.1 bids per work scope which is pretty competitive in in really great to see uh we did have post bit interview forms uh uh filled out uh there were a few withdrawn biders uh just incomplete bids that uh they weren't kind of that responsible low bid uh and then uh as part of tonight we do have 25 recommended biders with one work scope being rebid uh just due to try and Define that extra value to the project uh as part of that we did have four alternates uh with alternate number two the Faraday room being recommended for bid so uh additional uh slides you'll see the overall budget that does include that alternate number two in the numbers uh as far as the project budget construction came in a little over 21 million uh dollar uh that includes all the bids the general conditions and construction management uh below that you'll see the 7% construction cost uh for contingency uh that is a it's a good healthy sum um and then with the soft cost as far as the owner owner cost and any other items it it comes into 26 million and a little over $700,000 as far as the revenue uh we do have 26.5 million in bonding and then we have an additional state sales tax refund of 250,000 uh to come to a total of 26,7 15,000 uh with a total cost balance of a positive $ 35,6 185 as far as the project schedule uh construction is tentatively scheduled to start at the end of March early April of this year uh and then complete in May of 2026 that provides us an opportunity to get the police moved in uh in that July August time frame of 2026 next steps uh would be to issue contracts something that Ka would be doing on behalf of the city uh and starting that material procurement process as well as permitting so with that uh requested Council action would be to adopt the resolution to um issue the rec contracts uh based off the recommend recommendation letter uh for construction thank you um council member Nelson just suggested something I think it's a great idea um chief for putting you on the spot but I don't think too much um would you come forward and just um maybe tell us but also the community how this addresses your needs uh if you're comfortable with it uh are you excited about it um is it an important necessary I'm giving you ideas here but no it's but I'm sure you would have covered it all anyway it's all stuff we've uh We've thought about for a while um and as Rick said it is something that's been very important to us to to look at over the last decade and try and plan for it in capital projects um looking forward as Rick mentioned in 1994 when we moved in here we had 47 officers um we're now authorized at 75 um we moved into 30,000 square fet of office you know this new project would make that more around 50,000 a square feet office plus that parking that parking ability um it is very exciting because we are quite literally busting at the seams um we currently don't have enough lockers for our authorized strength U just a couple short not the end of the world uh but we're also really trying to find those office spaces for additions um two years ago we added our social worker she's been extremely busy and extremely helpful and resourceful for our community uh we are very fortunate we were just awarded a grant from the state for another social worker which will help us get one for another 18 months ahead of where maybe we were at the budgeting process for trying to do that cost sharing with Tena County so super excited to get that another social worker but right now there literally is no office for them so we're going to do some office sharing and kind of figure out how that space would work but uh as far as you know growth within the city and looking in the future um this will allow that space to have some room for future growth there's open collaborative areas that just by the nature of design right now I think are good for us um but that's also space that could be uh converted into other office space or other uses uh especially as Tech technology goes forward um a lot of the design and development of this really concentrates on keeping us um to be very fortunate to be a leader in the area in technology um that fairday room that option for part of our forensics investigations is uh very very important um will really put us on the Forefront of many around us so we're very fortunate to to explore that opportunity so we're excited to uh to see where it can go I think it um you know we we're we're we're fortunate to have the equipment and supplies we do um I think to be able to protect that Fleet especially as we look more at investing in more of the um electric vehicles and and making sure we're we're being sustainable as we can the ability to park that Fleet inside um I can tell you I think the officers would be very excited um nights like tonight if we got six inches of snow they'd be out there at 20 below moving about 30 cars back and forth across the lot so um the uh plows can get in I think it's just harder on the equipment hard on the vehicle so to be able to have those assets protected and be able to to better respond with the community will be a very fortunate thing so uh we're super excited about it it's been a it's been a fun process to have a collaborative team from our organization work with the uh The Architects and and kind of how do we make this space work best for our employees how do we also make it work best that we can respond for the needs of the community uh and I think we've got a pretty good thing put together so okay don't run off um I think our residents would be very interested to have underscored and you've already touched on a couple I'm going to retouch on them and let you re retouch on them I think they'd be interested to know how is this going to improve Public Safety how will this improve the work of our police officer we have a phenomenal Police Department in this town I think residents tell me that all the time and as well as our fire department so uh $26 million is a lot of money um and by the way just to review for people again um sometimes the thought is boy that should be a referendum and referendums are for borrowing money for taking on debt not necessarily for approving or disapproving a project um nonetheless um one reason that uh some things in my mind rise to the level of require or not requiring uh suggesting a referend might be and I use the idea of a golf course 20 years ago or some what superflous extraneous maybe amenities police and fire are critical so that's one reason this Council decided to go ahead and spend the money but here's what I'd love you to share I I jotted down um I uh when we transfer suspects in our current facility they're crossing paths I think with with people that work there with other suspects this new Arrangement will keep more security right when move in a suspect and transfer um the exiting police cars getting out of our area right here is very difficult around that curve and just sending them out I mean every second counts when our residents are are in danger this um definitely expedites that the covered parking you mentioned is phenomenal and we're I believe the only Police Department in our area in our region of all our sister cities that does not have covered parking um and then the forensics investigation work the added facil as added it added technology so will you underscore or add anything to that why this will help the job not just that they'll enjoy it I appreciate that they will and I want our police officers to be happy um but how will it make their job uh be done better uh on behalf of the residents of Eden pering yes definitely um I think you touched on on many of them um the exit onto um Mitchell Road right now going around the blind corner and then getting on to Mitchell Road especially in an emergency call and at heavy traffic times can be quite tricky at times uh to be able to get right out on technology where we turn the corner and can get immediately capture that um opticom the light changing device I think it's going to provide for a smoother in andout and less danger of you know cars whizzing around that corner to get out and get to emergencies so being able to get in and out quicker um especially on inclement weather days um the the officers to be ready to respond to that call have our squads running out on the line you know we're below zero they have to run so they're ready to go the windows aren't frosted up to be able to have that underground garage we don't have to idle those cars they can sit right in line get ready to go they hop in they go out and there's there's not scraping snow off and such so when those seconds do count I think just the physical location the Ingress egress and that ability to have those vehicles uh covered is going to be huge um when I came to Eden Prairie 22 years ago uh super impressed with the department and the the technology ability and the ability to just really investigate crimes and and and do a high level of serving our community Through uh crime investigation or other programs or things we can supplement to help our community um and I think that only furthers that with this with this facility as we've grown over time and we've need to take up more and more space whether it's for offices um we've grown our our gym facility to try encourage health and wellness for our officers because it was quite small we've reduced our storage to very very little um so we're kind of trying to be creative in some of the storage aspects we have and we are getting more and more equipment to help in our response um we've talked about our drone programs or crime techs so to be able to have a good storage area for that technology and that equipment it's just going to be better maintained and I think will help us to serve the community longer with that that dollar value at a better rate so um those in combination with as you talked about um work environment is always very important um it's it's difficult cult right now to attract and retain uh Poli people in the law enforcement World we're still very very lucky when we're down you know just a couple compared to some around us we're fortunate um but that will be something where a positive work environment with with good facilities again as we've always enjoyed but to be able to have that space to grow uh for a little bit in the future I think will be be very important excellent and we have an an amazing uh positive police culture that I hear about all the time and that's why we have an opening we'll sometimes get 10 15 20 applicants and other departments uh around us um have multiple openings and getting almost nobody to apply Council um any statements or questions before we actually take a vote quick one thank you for what our police department does do and the community oriented um Ness of the police department too is sometimes unusual but totally welcome and very valued by all the citizens in Eden Prairie so we're glad we can upgrade getting you to what you need to be able to do thank you yeah on behalf of our residents thank you for keeping us safe I mean you risk your lives um every day for us so thank you thank you thank you for your support do you council member fryberg or Timmy well I'm looking forward to the storage aspect because because I'm the president of the Eden Prairie crime prevention fund ah yes and um currently I have a bunch of stuff in my basement that I would like to be able to put back in storage there's a special closet in the plan lined up for crime prevention fund storage yay thank you thanks for what you do with Eden Perry crime fit preven I enjoy working with the police department they're a great group of people and we are so very fortunate in our city to have them okay we're we're good uh Council Let's uh go ahead and then have a motion to adopt this resolution accepting the bids and awarding the contracts I'll move to adopt resolution accepting bids and awarding contracts for the police department and city office REM module projects there second second any further discussion all those in favor say I I opposed can passes unanimous 40 all right um Council Andor Mr Geto anything further to come before the council this evening uh mayor there is not all right I will entertain a motion to adjourn tonight's meeting move to I'll move to during the city council meeting is there second second any further discussion all those in favor say I I oppose this meeting is adjourned e