I now declare the Plano City Council is recording in progress. And that all council members are present, with the exception of council member Ricciardelli. The council will now recess into executive session and the children's program room to hold a closed executive meeting pursuant to the provisions of Vernon's Texas Codes Annotated Government Code, chapter 551, the Open Meetings Act in accordance with the authority contained in section five, 50, 171, to consult with the attorney to receive legal advice and discuss litigation. Section five, 5187 to discuss economic development matters and section five, 50, 174 to discuss personnel matters. Thank you. I now declare the Plano City Council preliminary open meeting is reconvened in open session. That all council members are present. Our first item on the agenda is preliminary agenda is consideration and action resulting from the executive session. Personnel appointments, a planning and zoning commission interim member. Maria, do you want me to do this? Yes, please. Okay I make a motion to appoint Ben Bon al-Ali with a term expiring in 2026. I second, I have a motion to second to appoint the interim member Bon al-Ali. All in favor, raise your hand, please. Thank you. Motion passes. Reappointments board of adjustment. Do you want to do that or. Okay Mr. mayor, Council Member Horn and I have conferred , and, we would like to move for the reappointment of Sam Johnson. David Peterson, Janet Plotkin, Doug Shockey, and Jan True, leaving one vacancy for an alternate. Did you say one, yes, one vacancy. And it's an alternate vacancy. Second that. Thank you. I have a motion. Second. For reappointment of board adjustment. All in favor? Motion passes. Thank you. There we go. Next item, building standards Commission one. Mr. mayor, Council member Williams and I have conferred, and, we had some, additional things to discuss. So we would move to table that to our next meeting. Okay. Thank you. I have a motion and second to table, Building Standards Commission. All in favor? Thank you. Motion passes. Heritage Commission. Mr. mayor, we, I make a motion to reappoint . Nair. Allah, Allah. Rasool. Allah. Vasu And that leaves two vacancies and I will second that. All right, so I have a motion to second for, reappointment, to the Heritage Commission. All in favor? Thank you. Motion passes and then, planning and Zoning Commission, item D. Casey you want to do it? Sure I'll make a motion to reappoint Michael Bruno. And that will leave us with two vacancies. I second. All right, so I have a motion and a second for reappointment of the Planning and Zoning Commission leaving two vacancies. All in favor? Motion passes. Thank you. Next item is personnel. So appointments, item A, the 2025 bond referendum. Citizen advisory Committee members, the mayor and council. We are currently accepting applications right now for board members. So if you have somebody that you're interested in serving in that capacity, these are appointments from each individual council member. We would ask that they come in in July so that we can appoint them at the first meeting in July, because Karen needs to begin work in August. So if you can please reach out to those folks that are interested, as well as anybody else out there in the community who's interested, if you will, put in your application so that they can be reviewed, a little bit in advance of that meeting. It'd be greatly appreciated. Thank you. That that group will meet for about 5 to 6 months, hopefully just one meeting a month at maybe at the end, maybe a couple is that close. Karen. So if there's anybody interested, please make application for that and we'd appreciate it. We'd like to, appoint that, committee at the end of July. I'm sorry, just for clarification, there's two council members that are making the appointments or we're all making appointments that we've each council member has an individual appointment we each get. We're appointing one. Correct. Okay. I have a question. When does it actually start meeting in August. In August. Yeah okay. All right, library advisory board interim member. You got that, mayor Casey and I have discussed this, and we would like to appoint Abby Alter for the interim position. Okay. Second, I have a motion a second for the library advisory board, appointment. Right Yeah. All in favor? Motion passes. Thank you. Reappointments animal shelter advisory committee. So, council member or deputy mayor pro tem Holmer and I have talked, and we would like to reappoint Brenda Beard, Jamie Cantrell, and Tammy Chow Hayes leaving two vacancies, one? No, because this one resigned. Okay. Do I have a second? I'll second that. Okay. I have a motion and second for reappointing animal shelter Advisory Committee. All in favor ? Motion passes. Civil service commission. Mayor and council. I'd like to request that the council reappoint Jackie Billings to another term on the Civil Service Commission. All right. Motion to appoint Jackie Billings to Civil Service Commission or reappoint reappointment. Second. Thank you. I have a motion and a second to reappoint, Civil Service Commission appointee. All in favor? Motion passes. Community relations commission. Member. Smith, do you want to? Go for it. Council member. Not turn your mic on. Thanks. Thank you. Mayor, Council member Prince and I have discussed this, and we will reappoint, Tom Adair and Khalid Ashok to for another term, leaving two vacancies. Okay Thank you. Second, I have a motion. Second to, reappoint, those two members with two, available slots, this fall. All in favor? Motion passes. Library advisory board. Deputy Mayor pro tem and I have discussed. And we would like to, We're not. We're not reappointing anybody at this time. So we will have three vacancies. Okay. Looking ahead, I'll second that. So I have a motion to second. For the library advisory board with three vacancies. All in favor? Motion passes, parks and Recreation planning board. Mr. mayor, we would like to reappoint, Patricia Johnson and Greg a miller with two vacancies. All right, I'll second that. So, I have a motion and a second to reappoint two. Two and leaving two vacancies for the Parks and Recreation planning Board. All in favor? Motion passes. Plano Housing Authority. So, mayor, I had a question about this, which I was going to speak with you earlier about, and I didn't. Yeah. Do you still have a question, well, it was about who's going to make this appointment because traditionally this has been a mayoral appointment. Yeah. So, I, I will, reappoint Ron Johnson and Jen Rugg, but Jan, is that would be a half a term, right? She's Is she done? So Ron Johnson and then we will have one, available for reappointment or for appointment this fall. Okay Thank you. Have a second, please. I second that. Thank you. I have a motion, a second to appoint Ron Johnson to the Plano Housing Authority with, one available. All in favor? Motion passes. Retirement security plan committee, mayor and council. I'd request that you reappoint Chief Chris Biggerstaff. For an employee slot and Susan Oman for a citizen spot, leaving one citizen and one employee spot on the retirement security plan. Okay, so. I guess I'll make that motion, exactly what? City manager? Israel. Since then, I'll. I'll second it. Okay, so I have a motion to second, for reappointment of retirement security plan committee with one employee and one volunteer to, to come. All in favor? Motion passes. Senior advisory board. Thank you, Mr. Mayor, deputy mayor pro tem and I have discussed it, and we will reappoint, Paula Boudreau. Efrain Gerardo and Debbie Wiener to the senior advisory board. And that will leave us with two vacancies. Okay. And I'll second that. So I have a motion and a second to, reappoint, three members, leaving two available slots. All in favor? Motion passes. Item J, tax increment financing. Reinvestment zone number four. Board Mr. mayor, currently there, well, there were 12 members, we are now, requesting the reappointment of Catherine Casavant, John Donovan, and the current chair, Brian Duchouquet, Jonathan Hetzel, Douglas Reese. And then we will open up three vacancies for, this board. And I will second that. All a motion. And e tax increment financing zone number four board, we have, four reappointments with three available or three and three we have, sorry, we have five Reappointments and three vacancies. Okay All in favor. Motion passes, come back to cultural arts Commission. Reappointments mayor, we'd like to make a motion to reappoint Rita Cosgrove and Alisa Klein leaving us with one opening or one vacancy. Okay Do I have a second? I second, okay, I have a motion and a second to reappoint , Cosgrove and Klein leaving one available slot. All in favor? Motion passes. Thank you. Next item is item three. The zoning subdivision ordinance. Stakeholder committee, member appointments steering committee, and Cristina Sebastian, land records planning manager. So, mayor and council, this was actually sent out earlier today for your review. It shows the committee, recommendation that's been made through the subcommittee. We had, which was the chair and vice chair of planning and zoning, as well as the council liaisons, two planning and zoning. So with that, Miss Sebastian, I think is here for any questions, but you have the recommendation before you, if you have any further questions. I have a question. Go. Well. Go ahead. Anthony, I'm sorry you're up. This is on the, stakeholder committee for the subdivision ordinance. Okay? Correct. I just wanted to check there. There are 1 or 2, recommendations on here. Who present zoning cases before the city of Plano. Do we know if they'll continue to, present zoning cases in front of the PNC and the council during their service on this? Commission. I think we anticipate that they may, we we're going to have everyone fill out a form in regards to potential conflicts of interest, and we'll defer to our attorneys if there is need to recuse themselves from anything but the idea is that they're providing their technical expertise from doing this so much, and it would be for, you know, it'll be the future, the cases that they are proposing during the process would be under the current ordinance. So it would be for the future ordinance that they'd be discussing things so they would not, I guess, be representing anybody with respect to the new ordinance until after their service on this commission ends. That's right. The stakeholder committee would wrap up before we would actually start our public hearings for adoption. Okay. Thank you for that. And so just to wrap that up, so that what we just heard does not give us any concerns, yes. Okay. Okay okay okay. I'm good with that then. Thank you. Mayor Pro Tem. Yes, Christine. So, my understanding is that originally we thought maybe try to recommend 12 members. Is that. Is that around 12 was the recommendation from the consultant? So I think deputy mayor pro tem also provided a name. So I just want to make sure that the we're not exceeding the numbers. But right now these are the ones that we vetted and that we, have come to a conclusion. These are people who we've known and, and believe that they're qualified to sit, help consult with PNC with the revision of the ordinances. Is that right? That's right. Okay. Okay Any other questions? Yeah. We just need a motion. I move to, adopt the recommended appointment of membership to the stakeholder committee for the rewrite of the zoning and subdivision ordinances, the people who are named in the recommendation, the 11 members. Yeah. Should I put out all the names? No Okay. Sorry. As specified by our our statements. Okay Anyone want to second? I'll second it. All right. I have a motion and a second, for approval of the membership. Stakeholder committee. All in favor, raise your hand. I can read the names real quick. We have Connor Barron, Mike Bronsky , Chris Caso, penny Diaz, Tina Firgens, Lori Foltz, Bob Gibbons, Phyllis Gerald, Dan Pendergrast, Ben Ratliff, and Arthur Stone. Okay Next item. Item four. Community Relations Commission grant recommendations and annual action plan for the 20 for 25 years. Hi, Curtis. Good evening, Mr. Mayor. Council members, members of the executive team, my name is Curtis Howard. I'm the director of neighborhood services and so I am here to talk to you about, the CRC funding for this year. And also our recommendations to update the annual action plan, so, first of all, the CRC right out of the gate, this in April, I had five meetings and they listened to our nonprofit community who were given presentations on, on for grant funding and so they eventually came up with a recommendations which I will be presenting here tonight. And I probably just want to take a take a moment and recognize the CRC for all the good work that they did and the staff that was part of that process, because it went through without without a hitch. So, it's a lot of work, a lot of time, a lot of lot of effort. So I also want to let you know that we are doing this, bringing this before you to give you some time to look over these recommendations and make sure that we address any questions or concerns that you have before next month. Next month, we'll put this on the agenda at that point and get your final recommendations. So in addition to that, one of the things that we want to do is because we are updating our, our, our report, we want to we are making some changes to how we're going to use some of the Covid relief fund money. And so we're going to just wrap that all up in one. So just a little bit of information. So if you look so the grant allocations that we received we got 521,594. That 521 $594,000 for home funding, which was about $83,000 less than we got last year, as you can tell by the graph, CDBG, we got 1.1 million 557,300, and that was about 77,000 more. So we're, pretty close to what we got last year. And of course, our our Buffington Community Services grant information that we have there. And so as you are all aware, we have to do a five year consolidated plan. So we are getting ready to start the fifth year of this. That will start on October first, and, and then in addition to that, we are going to start the process for doing our next five year consolidated plan. That's going to probably start kicking off in in August. Right there, and so, you know, I think that there was probably and my understanding is there was some concern about our ability to maybe meet all the goals that we've had in our consolidated plan. And I certainly want to, to emphasize this as we move forward and we start the process for doing our next consolidated plan, you know, we're going to take that stuff into account. I'm kind of a guy that likes to have make sure that we have attainable goals. And so when we move forward with this, we're going to make sure that that the capacity we have here, within our nonprofit sector, will allow us to meet the goals that we come up with, and so for our Buffington Community Services grant, so here is a list of all the, recommendations from the CRC. And I'm certainly not going to read it off to you, but if you have any questions, please let me know before we move forward to the recommended actions for CDBG and our home funding. So, as detailed here, this is what what, what has been recommended by the CRC and, and including funding for, for the city of Plano, not only for our rehabilitation program that we have, but also for the administration program and I just want to kind of discuss, kind of the administration funding. So, you know, both CDBG and home funding provide the ability for us to use some of that grant for administrative purposes, 20% for CDBG, 10% for home. And so we use that. So basically, the amount money that we use, we use that to partially pay for seven employees within the city for five of those are neighborhood services, two of those. And actually a pretty, minuscule amount of this goes to the finance department for their part in doing the auditing and everything else. So in addition to that, that administrative fund also provides, funding for Samaritan in and that part time employee works for the works, putting in data into hymns, which is the homeless information management system that we use, also we've got rehabilitation funding. That's our program that we use for either emergency funding or rehabilitation or full, you know , or, you know, or full, full, full gut rehabilitation. So we will go in and basically redo, do a house. So that is the program that we use here for the city. And then finally moving on to that substantial amendment. So you guys approved the use of CDBG coronavirus funding for certain things. And we found we've got $865,000 left over that we were not able to use based upon the requirements of, of that grant funding. And so based upon in, discussions with council members, Horn and Ricciardelli, we've come up with, with some options. And that is we have 17 transitional homes here in Plano, that are run by six nonprofits. And so we want is we want to now earmark or use that money to provide rehabilitation services or rehabilitation on those homes with an emphasis on energy efficiency. And the next step is, again, we're going to put this on the agenda for July 22nd of next month, and then following that after consideration, then we will certainly, redo our, our, our plan, which is due by August 15th. So with that questions I do Curtis, so with the allocations that you, you have for the recommend recommended distribution of funds. Yes. Did you did you review the previous year, allocation or did you just, I mean, what is the priority and what what are the, process that you use in coming up with the amount? So we did these, these are recommended by from they come from the CRC okay. So these are not our recommendations. These you know they they go through the process. So the CRC meets. So, and during that period of time they get the applications they bring in those nonprofits, their nonprofits give their, their their spiel. And then the CRC meets for these recommendations. Is there any way you could provide me with the previous years so that I could do it? Sort of a comparison with the, yes. Yes, ma'am. Yeah, I can I can certainly do that. Yeah. I just wanted to see whether or not the applications are always the same, it seems like, you know, we these these are all the names that I've seen many, many, many, many times. I mean, almost every year, I just want to see whether or not there are any new organizations, that's all. Okay And if you like, I can I can work with you and follow up and probably get a list of all organizations. And that might kind of give you an idea as funded, not funded, that sort of thing. That would be great. Would that be good? If you want to add to your, your to my workload. Yes, ma'am. Yes I will do it. And Curtis, listen, if you'll send that through, Deputy city manager, we'll send it out to the entire council. Thank you. Yes, sir. And before we wrap up, I just, maybe this will help with, Mayor Pro Tem. One of the things we started talking about, I think maybe at least two years ago was trying because I had some of the same concerns, is trying to expand this and let little guys, little smaller groups get involved. And I know at least one of the groups that I follow that started only about five years ago. And so when they were really struggling and working on, you know, working on just individual donations, we talked about grants one time and they said, well, it's just, you know, it's just it's too much trouble. We just don't have anybody to do it. So they got in touch. They found out we helped them and they applied and they got a small grant, this is the Hope restored mission, which which we saw last week that they've done. They do a great job in helping the homeless, you know, get rehabilitate and get off, you know, off the streets and they're now up to I think it was like 33,000 or something. So they've gone from having nothing to prove in the services they provide the community. And now they're a good recipient. So you know, excellent. I really commend the group for looking and seeing how we can help the smaller groups get involved to. Council member Prince, what do you know what percentage of these are, Plano based and do they get higher percentage points for being local to Plano? You know, I do not know. Number one, I do not know how many of them are are are Plano based. You know, I mean, a lot of my recognize, and, but, and then I don't know if they get points for being part of Plano or not. I know we do have some some commission members here, so they may be able to give you some information. Okay Okay. Shelby, when we look at the carve outs here, specifically the city of Plano grant administration, if, totaling the math. Right. That looks like the 20% permissible carve out from the CDBG and the home funds for administration. But we're if that's accurate, we're providing most of the money, if not the entirety of the balance to these community partners, I don't know that we actually need $360,000 between the home funds and the CDBG for our own administration when we're not executing anything, well, and in some of that. So and part of that, because we've got the administration and also the rehabilitation, both those go towards some of the administration funding. Right. And so, so for example, our rehab process. So we have, community service coordinators. And so they kind of work on the administrative end of that. But then we also have our project coordinators. And so they go out and they're making sure that the work is doing that. The work is being done according to specs, specifications. And that sort of thing. But, I mean, you know, overall, whether or not, you know, you as a council want us to use these funds or come out of the general fund. I mean, that is certainly a decision. I think that is up to you. And you were speaking of the housing rehabilitation, right? Yes, sir. Okay. Which is have we explored other permissible uses of that? We've spoken before on and off about the utility of specifically housing rehabilitation, of the home funds. Is that what you're asking for? Yeah. And I'll tell you what. So the I know that there is the home funding. It is more difficult. There are more, requirements for home funding, more CDBG. So and I know we're certainly trying to get and work with like habitat is one of our partners and there is you know, I think that's one of those areas in Plano that we just have a capacity issue. And so whether or not there are other nonprofits or other ways we can do it because we are doing some of that habitat is doing some. And so we are looking at that because we would like to, do more with that. But, you know, it's a tough environment. Okay. Anthony Thank you. Mayor. So, Curtis, if I, am understanding this correctly of the, $1.644 million of CDBG funds that we have, we use more than half of that for the city of Plano's housing rehabilitation program, correct? Correct. So that that and that's something we are administering internally, as I understand it, we are. Yes, sir. So, so it would be accurate to say that the majority of the CDBG funds are internally, or support programs that are internally administered within Neighborhood Services, that. Yeah, that rehab program is administered within neighborhood Service. Yes, sir. And I know we've we've had discussions about whether, you know, whether the, housing rehab is the right use for more than half of that money. But I would say as long as we're going to keep doing that, I think it's important to pay for that CDBG program with CDBG funds. If we were to make the decision to switch that funding to the general fund, obviously it would it would further compound our current budget crunch, but it would also place a greater burden on property taxes. And, you know, I personally think that as long as we are doing that work in-house, you know, to provide those CDBG services, or for services provided by CDBG funds, that that the administration of that is an appropriate use for those funds. And then I also just had an unrelated question on the Buffington community service grants funds. At the recent retreat, we discussed, slightly altering the methodology for that. Is that reflected in in these numbers? I know, Director Howard, you were not at the retreat. But what we talked about, I believe, was last year's, number plus CPI inflation since the since plano's population is not growing at a pace commensurate with inflation. So I guess is that going to be reflected in the budget? That is not reflected in these numbers? We got that instruction after the CRC had done so. It would be part of this budget process. Okay. Perfect. Well thank thank you all on both of those things. All right. Yes sir. Thank you Curtis. Appreciate it. All right. Thank you. Next item is item five dart sales tax presentation Andrew. Right. Good evening mayor and council, Andrew Fortune, director of policy and government relations. All right. This evening we're going to discuss the Dallas area rapid transit system, I wanted to highlight and refresh everyone's memory on the existing model I created over 40 years ago. It is comprised of 13 member cities, each of those cities pays in $0.01 of their sales and use tax, based on their recent 2024 fiscal year budget and their 20 year plan, they're anticipating a total collection of $870.8 million in total sales tax revenue, across all 13 cities, to give you perspective, this does not include the hundreds of millions they receive from federal dollars and under other funding sources. So their budget is actually quite larger than that. So I wanted to provide a background that's probably not new to anyone here around the table. But in 2020, we had members of this body request more financial transparency and accountability from Dart, that culminated into a bill filed in the 87th legislative session, looking to enshrine that within statute, dart did at that time oppose that bill and ultimately promised to provide the analysis with that information, fast forward to the most recent legislative session. We still did not have the report, we did have some elements of data that was provided to us, but it did not satisfy this body or really answer the questions that we had been asking. And so we introduced both the Senate and House companion. The bill did pass through the Senate, it did die in the House with the promise from dart once again to produce an analysis with this information. Now, as of March of this year, dart did engage a consultant, Ernst and Young, to work on a value of transit analysis to answer these questions, in relation to investment, however, we still do not have a report to date. And as a refresher for everyone about the legislative process, if you're not currently working on your legislative agenda and priorities like we are now, you are behind. If not too late and so waiting any longer for a report is not something that I would. I would say is advisable for the body. Now, this is probably one of the most important slides I'd like to highlight for everyone. This was pulled from Dart's annual financial reports. It is a five year look back over in the left column, the left table there, I look at their sales tax collections over the last five years. As you can see, even with a global pandemic, and a slight dip, they have netted over more than $200 million a year in sales tax collections. That's incredible growth. And it mirrors what we've largely seen in budgets, with the other penny that is collected in sales tax growth and at the state. However, unfortunately, in the table to the right, ridership tells a very different story. And while we are excited, the latest numbers I've heard is ridership is to return to about 80% pre-pandemic levels, even the pre-pandemic levels, many would argue, were not reaching the maximum capacity of where we wanted to see Dart in terms of its utilization. So even with these record increases, our ridership remains significantly lower. And so it does posit the question, why do we continue spending at these levels when we don't have maximized ride ridership and usage of the existing services that we already provide? Communities throughout the system? So some of the shared concerns, again, this is feedback we've heard from multiple member cities as well as members around this table. Safety cleanliness, reliability, quality. And then, you know, fiscal responsibility from what we've been asking, we contribute and sales tax is a little bit difficult. It's an estimated $115 million. I'm sure the actual numbers are a little bit different than that, but and just Plano contributes that annually to the Dart system. So these are some of the four questions that, in our discussions have really come up. Are our taxpayers receiving a value commensurate to their investment? Are we subsidizing the system for other cities, why has Dart opposed financial transparency legislation for two sessions now and then? Did the legislature 40 years ago really intend for Dart to receive this unchecked full penny stream of sales tax revenue, even as we now move into a situation where the 20 year plan and the shift on the strategic plan really focuses more on replacement rather than building out more of the system, replacing trains, replacing busses. And so, leading from that question about legislative intent into to the process, the resolution you're considering tonight is not does not contain any authority for you to actually reduce that penny. Today, the dart board actually has that authority reserved for them within statute . Their existing statute allows them to move up and down in quarter cent increments. In terms of the pledge, we would say though, should the council decide to go this direction, that existing debt obligations for future debt issuances should be pledged at three quarters of a century, even if the Dart board were to move forward tomorrow to reduce the quarter cent, there is the question of the debt. And we do believe strongly that the bond shareholders need to be kept whole and not threatened by any, any change in that, and so we also think that dart should really evaluate the extent of the capacity that exists to augment any impact of a reduction. So your reserve levels, how how much above and beyond those baseline requirements do they sit at currently cash on hand programs curbing future spending. So what happens next? If a reduction were to occur by a vote of the Dart board, an election would be called and each of the member cities to allow taxpayers to ultimately decide how to reallocate the quarter cent sales tax. It's not Plano's money. It's not Dart's money. It's the taxpayers money. And so if a reduction were to be phased in and we are looking at a proposal currently to phase in this reduction, a quarter cent would be equivalent to roughly $30 million annually for the Plano taxpayers to be the ones to reinvest it in another purpose, whether that be economic development, infrastructure, etc. It's also important to note that in some communities, if they are truly bought into continuing to pay a full penny into those, taxpayers could vote in that community to rededicate it to dart. So Plano and Transit, I want to state this and for it to truly be heard, we are invested in the success of Dart. We have invested since inception, 1.7, going on $1.8 billion into the system. It has value for us. We've not been yet told exactly how that value is really deployed across our city. We also think that the membership should grow. We should be adding new cities. It's been 40 years and we've not added cities and expanded into the region. And really looking at less than that penny outdated model of contribution and we also believe Transit North Texas needs to be evaluated strategically to serve our growing population. And that's why, our mayor, along with the mayors of Fort Worth and Dallas and several others across the region, worked with the RTC to move forward with Regional Transit 2.0, which we really think is going to be the vehicle for envisioning and making sure transit actually works in North Texas through all the transit agencies going forward. In the future. And just another note, I know there have been questions about, you know, is Plano looking to reduce services? We're not talking about a reduction of services. What we are talking about is capping revenues today. We know how much it costs this year to date to run what currently exists, similar to how we have a cap, from the Texas Legislature. We also believe it's time for Dart to really look at capping the revenue, curbing those expenditures on new things and focusing on increasing ridership for what you currently have. And so that would look like take Plano, where are you deploying those resources? How can we deploy them better? We've had an entire pandemic hybrid work is now a player that wasn't before. A lot of different factors are in play. So action items today, you have before you as an individual item later on, a resolution supporting the reduction of the sales and use tax contribution by a quarter cent, again, with the caveat that we don't want to reduce existing services. We want this to be a phased in approach, I'd like to understand direction for myself and our staff on continuing to pursue this effort and also direction. If this is something that the council is looking for us to bring back when we bring forward our legislative program and with that, I will happily answer any questions. Thanks, Andrew. Any questions? Shelby, just a comment. Good job Andrew. Thank you sir. I'll second that comment. Thank you Andrew I'll third that. Thank you. Now. Yeah. No it'll come up. Thank you Andrew. Thank you. Appreciate it. Mayor and council I did want to recognize the chief of staff for Dart is actually back here Kay Shelton. And she's been a great partner to us. As far as you know, working with us throughout, the last several years. So just want to make sure we recognize our partner agency in the audience as well. Thank you. Next item is update on the use of rainy day funds for storm debris. Mark, mayor and council, our crews, out there in public works are working round the clock, seven days a week to try to remove debris out there. It is quite a bit more than what we had anticipated. And we brought back to council at the last council meeting, two separate funding sources. One was for parks of 500,001 was for right of way and streets, which was 100,000, which was pretty much grossly underestimate dated based upon the debris that we've actually experienced. So thus far, so, so far we've had on Sunday alone, we had 16 loads from trucks and we've had 810 loads total from trucks delivered to both our primary and secondary sites. Total volume is over 33,400yd■!. A cubic yard is basically the size of a washing machine. So we have 33,400 washing machines, stacked up that we've actually been processing. But we're only about 50% done with the city. We have 50% more. So both of those contracts were going to come back to council for ratification at the end of July. My intent or my request would be that council allow me to continue on with that right of way, supplemental contract to continue and expedited removal of the debris. We would need an additional $354,000. We think that would cover up to 21 days, if we're able to stop early, we will stop earlier than that, if it's possible to get through some of our secondary sweep, that 21 days is the maximum we would allow. So I would ask that council allow me to bring that back for ratification so we can keep working, because actually the contract that we were under expired yesterday. So they have not done work today. We'd like to get them back to work tomorrow. But I need council authority to bring that back for ratification. So the total contract would be, basically 454,000 plus the element that was brought to council, on the 492,000. So the that's quite a bit of money. I understand, but Council, this is, you know, a rainy day fund. It wasn't rainy, but. Well, it was rainy. It was very windy. Yes, so if you're if you're in agreement to allow me to bring that back for ratification, we will move forward and get them back to work tomorrow. Everybody okay with that? Shelby and Mr. Mayor, I just want to make a comment, my neighbor who was actually hit really, really hard and, there were a lot of huge trees, and, there were down, and it caused problem with traffic. It caused problem with, you know, getting through it also caused problem with, making turns because you can't see, you know, with all these trees blocking, but they came through a couple of weeks ago and it's almost like it never happened. And I just wanted to, you know, really, really thank the staff for working so hard in getting it cleaned up. So now it's now we're back to the regular neighborhood. So, please, continue to, to do that because I think our Plano residents really deserve to have a good neighborhood. Well, I'll be happy to pass that along to our staff, but the total being brought back for ratification will be right at $950,000 between the two contracts. Okay Shelby, I appreciate all the work that's being done on this. This is a huge cleanup job, I did want to say that in a twist of, an ironic twist that, many folks I've heard from in West Plano feel underrepresented, because we're essentially moving from east to west. I recognize that somebody, somewhere has to be last, but there's significant damage on the West Side as well. And I'm hearing from folks, as I'm sure many of us are, and I will promise them, we have not forgotten my email inbox also lets me know that they that they know that we have not visited yet, but we are working in a systematic way to make sure we do that. But I want them to know I trust me. We are working seven days a week, we are trying to get there as fast as we possible, but we will not forget. So we'll get there as soon as we do and we'll do a great job. Help is on the way. I'd like to make one comment as well. I think our communication staff done a great job with modifying our website. Now people just they they didn't know. They didn't know. We started because the damage was in East Side. And now those numbers you put up there are just are staggering to figure out what we're all having to pick up out there and for, for those of us who live on the West Side and there are people who are complaining to us, we live on the West side also. Ours hasn't been picked up either. So we feel your pain, but we understand you've got to start somewhere. And it's a huge, huge event. So I think we're doing a great job. Kudos to Shawna Haley and Steve Stoler and the entire team out there. And Abby Owens, please pass that along to your teams. Thank you. Next Would like to remove. I need to remove manager. I need to remove item A for a quick adjustment and edit okay. Item A any items for future agendas. All right. We will take a two minute break and be be ready to go at 7:00. I'm working I'm working on it. How are you? How are you doing? Good to see you. Get in there. Not in my neighborhood. With my money. In it. Managed to display perfectly. And her neighbors. I don't want to. No no no no no, thank you. I was just waiting till you were done talking. But it's good to see you here. So things are good. But, yeah, I'm good. So. Yeah. Continue. To have certain standards, libraries can be overhanging. I think I'm good with. Also really ? That's. Fine. If. We're. Yeah Yeah. So. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah yeah yeah. I thought we had, like, Walmart. Like, not just. Probably could barely hit the middle. Okay. I don't think they did. That was a gadget. Yeah Plus your guy. Yeah yeah yeah. Obviously. I know, I know, I mean I'm. Here So it's not I mean. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean. You're outside. The tree falls. I know that helps. Yeah, yeah. All right. How are you? Yeah, yeah. How are you? Yeah. Oh No good. No help at. Yeah. Exactly Yeah. We definitely like. Yeah yeah. Yeah Oh! Yeah. All right. I now declare the Plano City Council is reconvened in open session. And all members are present. We'll begin tonight's regular meeting with the invocation led by Reverend Deanna Gholson, with disciples Christian Church. And please join the council reciting the Pledge of Allegiance and Texas Pledge. Would you please rise? Oh, he's not. Oh All right . I'm. I didn't hear that, Reverend. We just on break. Okay, there we go. Well, there we go. Lord, we pray that you would watch over this meeting in this city. We know that there are many who were impacted by the recent storms. And we know that patience is required as we clean up from it. Lord we pray that our work of our city would continue to be excellent in that cleanup and that people would continue to have patience and please bless them as they do. Lord, we pray for your blessings upon this meeting and upon this body. We pray for wisdom and discernment. We pray for patience with one another. We pray that we would all have grace for one another, both on this council and in this whole community. We pray that our community would be known, by the way, that we love each other and the way that we have unity. And Lord, we pray for your hand to be on this meeting, on this council and on this city now and always. We pray this all in your son's name. Amen I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. On the next flight. Allegiance. City, Texas, one state, under God, indivisible. Thank you. Be seated. Do you know what? We can always use a second prayer, so I'd be glad to come up. Thank you, Reverend, I apologize. I had no idea there was all this construction. This way. That's my fault. Yeah. Holy creator God of all people and one known by many names. We come before you seeking wisdom. Let our hearts open to the needs more than our wants. Let our ears hear beyond mere words and our understandings be whole. Let our very human natures be strengthened by yours and in all things, in all ways, and in all time. May our will be yours. Guide us in the doing, strengthen us in the understanding, and as always, be with us. Amen, Amen. Thank you so much, Reverend. Our first item, will be the consent agenda . The consent agenda. The consent agenda will be acted upon in one motion and contains items which are routine and typically noncontroversial. Items may be removed from this agenda for individual discussion by a council member, the city manager, or any citizen presiding officer will establish time limits based upon the number of speaker requests. Motion to approve the consent agenda. Except for, a second. Second. Thank you. I have a motion and a second to approve the consent agenda. With the exception of item A. All in favor, raise your hand motion passes. Thank you. Item A, item a approval of minutes from the June 10th and June 14th Council meetings. Mayor and council. The council conducted its annual retreat on June 14th, and we had minutes posted, in the discussion and direction regarding top goals for the 2425 annual budget. It was listed that I mentioned a $60,000 deficit, I would prefer that, but we're actually at a $60 million deficit. So that one correction we would add to the minutes. So I would ask that you amend the minutes to include 60 million, 60,000. As far as that deficit goes, you I will move that. We, pass item A, as amended by City Manager Israelsson. Second. Thank you. I have a motion and a second to approve item A, as amended. All in favor? Motion passes. Thank you. Next item, items for individual consideration. Items for individual consideration. Public hearing items. Applicants are limited 15 minutes presentation time with a five minute rebuttal if needed. Remaining speakers are limited to 30 total minutes of testimony time, with three minutes assigned per speaker. The presiding officer may amend these times as deemed necessary. Non public hearing items. The Presiding Officer will permit public comment for items on the agenda not posted for a public hearing. Presiding officer will establish time limits based upon the number of speaker requests, length of the agenda and to ensure meeting efficiency and may include a cumulative time limit. Speakers will be called in the order of the request for received until the cumulative time is exhausted. Item number one. Consideration of a resolution to support the sales and use tax. Excuse me to support capping the sales and use tax revenues for the Dallas area. Rapid Transit Authority and providing an effective date. All right, Mayor and Council. So this is the actual item for you to vote on, for the benefit of those watching online and those in the room. I'll go ahead and read the resolution for you, where? Let's see a resolution of the city of Plano, Texas, supporting capping the sales and use tax revenues for the Dallas area Rapid Transit Authority and providing an effective date. Whereas the Dallas Area Rapid Transit Authority was created by the Texas Legislature in 1983. And Whereas the Dallas Area Rapid Transit Authority provides service to Addison, Carrollton, Cockrell Hill, Dallas Farmers Branch, Garland, Glenn Heights, Highland Park, Irving, Richardson Rowlett Plano and University University Park. And Whereas all dart member cities contribute $0.01 of the sales and use tax to the authority as approved by voters. And whereas the City Council has a fiduciary responsibility to the taxpayers. And whereas the city Council supports mobility and transit in the North Texas region. And Whereas, the city council's concern that the servants services provided to taxpayers may not be commensurate with the current contribution provided to the Dallas Area Rapid Transit Authority, now, therefore now, therefore be it resolved by the City Council of the City of Plano, Texas, that the City Council now adopts a position of support to reduce the sales and use tax collection of the Dallas Area Rapid Transit Authority to not exceed three quarters of a century. The City Council supports capping sales and use tax revenues at the amount equivalent to the 2024 collections, until a reduction can occur. A mouthful I will just reiterate before we move on to speakers, that the intent of this is not to reduce services. I know there are many in the community who have reached out and have expressed a concern there, that is not the understanding I had from this body, nor is that the intent of this resolution. Thank you. Do we have speakers? We do have six speakers on this item. The first one is Preston Kolb, who's supposed to be on zoom. And I'm not seeing Preston. Is Preston in the audience? Okay We will move on to Joshua Haupt. Yes. Okay Come on up. Okay Arguing against the post resolution as a fear of, like I said, just cutting services and. Yeah seeing what they do offer for what they're paid for, $0.01 say it's. But again one another concern is kinetic services also cut security and. Okay okay. Thank you. The next speaker is Dan Stafford. Good evening, dear and esteemed city council and Mayor. My name is Dan Mustafa and I am a resident of Plano. A question regarding whether or not the taxpayer to dart is equal to the services they provide to the city of Plano has been raised. The answer is yes. Dart provides service that is equal to the service, it to the tax that imposes dart provides Plano citizens quick and cheap access to major job centers in Dallas and other cities via light rail and bus lines. It also allows Plano citizens to traverse DFW and Plano without using a car, which supports those who don't have a car, those who don't want a car, those who are too young to have a car, and of course decreases traffic for even those who don't use dart, they run cheap and quick on demand mobility services in almost all of Plano, allowing the elderly, impaired and many others to travel alone as they wish. Just two weeks ago, dart opened a brand new bus line, the 254, which runs only in Plano. But all this is only what they do now, what they plan on doing is even better. Dart is currently building a multi-billion dollar, state of the art train line, which will provide extremely quick and cheap connection to Utd. Richardson Dallas, Addison, Carrollton and the DFW airport to Plano residents. They also plan on expanding their bus network and increasing frequencies for bus and rail. Additionally, as Plano continues to densify and develop itself through projects such as Downtown Plano expansions, Collin Creek Mall, the Willowbend Redevelopment, Assembly Park, and more, Dart will only become more and more important to lowering traffic, maintaining connectivity and driving productivity, and supporting businesses throughout Plano. Finally, I'd like to address the concerns over Dart's current ridership compared to pre-pandemic levels. During the pandemic, light rail and bus ridership dropped to an average of about 61% of pre-pandemic ridership. In 2023, ridership had risen to 82% of pre-pandemic numbers, meaning in just two years ridership had risen by 21, or 10.5% per year, with ■this information, we can predict that within just a couple years, ridership will likely surpass pre-pandemic levels. In conclusion, Dart does and will give the city the service it pays for to decrease. Commitment to Dart is to decrease commitment to the elderly, the poor, the young, the commuter, the driver and the impaired. Therefore, I urge the city Council and Mayor to continue to support Dart and the countless benefits it brings to our city. Thank you dear and esteemed City Council and Mayor, along with all others who work to make Plano the City of Excellence. Thank you. The next speaker is Anna Donaldson, who was just on zoom, and now she's gone. Okay, we will move on to Jason Sabo. Hello. My name is Jason Sobel, and I am a resident of the city of Plano. I live in central Plano, I would like to voice my opposition to this resolution to cap, sales and use tax revenues. Going to Dallas Area transit, one, I read the agenda item online. I saw in insinuation that dart has been slow to recover transit ridership since the pandemic, and I would like to disabuse you of this notion. Dart has recovered about 80% more as the previous speaker has stated of its pre-pandemic ridership, which is typically compared to 2019 levels. I've, decided to look at how this compares to other cities with similar transit systems across the United States. San Diego, which has a light rail system called the trolley, which pre-pandemic had a similar ridership to Dart, has recovered 75% of its transit system ridership, so has Seattle. Portland has only recovered 70% of its ridership, Saint Louis, which also has a light rail system 60 Minneapolis also around 60, and even large cities like New York City and Chicago have only recovered about 60 to 70% of their pre-pandemic ridership so far. Dart is not a failure in recovering pre-pandemic ridership. It is a success, and the reason this success has occurred is because of the recent and ongoing improvements to transit services across the Dart area, including in Plano, Plano, sorry, the Dallas area Rapid Transit has improved bus service frequencies and reliability significantly over the past several years, and it has set plans to continue to do so, including plans to improve weekend service on the light rail, just this year and later plans to improve the for the 200 series bus routes. Bus routes which run 40 minutes or hourly, in the midday to run every 30 minutes. These would include all of Plano's bus routes. These service improvements have been essential for achieving the success that Dart has seen in recovering, public transit ridership, since the Covid 19 pandemic hit and reducing the amount of revenue that Dart receives would significantly impair Dart's ability to continue. I'm not saying it will have to reduce service necessarily, but it will . Sorry. It will be. It will not be able to continue to provide these sorts of improvements. And Plano will not be able to get more for the money that it's already giving. Thank you very much. Thank you. River bloom. Go ahead and start. My name is River bloom. I live at 4000 Halifax Drive and I want to talk about my personal experience as a Plano resident who uses just about every Dart service there is in the city. I don't own a car, so I rely on Dart for just about all of my basic needs. Sorry if I'm a little sweaty. I don't know if it shows up on camera. I took my bike here, I want to address some of the complaints I've heard about dart, and give my perspective on some things that I've heard discussed before, the first point I've heard is that dart has low post pandemic ridership recovery, this is not true, but post pandemic ridership recovery is an issue, that transit agencies across the country are facing. And Dart is actually a success compared to other agencies, even so, Dart is at a lower point than it was pre-pandemic. But the answer is unequivocally not to strip funding. Second, I have heard people mention empty busses, part of effective city planning is making sure that there are residents, residences and destinations that can be served by transit in this. Plano has largely failed. The relationship between a city and a transit agency is a two way street. Cities cannot suburban sprawl themselves into a functioning transit system. You need residential, retail and office density to attract transit riders. This doesn't mean demolishing single family homes or banning cars. It just means being smarter with your comp plan and not giving in to people who want to increase their short term poverty property values at the expense of everyone else. I've also heard proposals for a point to point ride share system, like via in Arlington to replace busses. And I would just like to emphasize that this is not a good idea in the slightest . First of all, if we give in to the roving bands of conservatives trying to destroy our neighborhoods and kill dart funding a system like Via is not viable. Long term because it's run by private equity tech firms that will inevitably, inevitably go bankrupt in 5 to 10 years when their software and data collection business fails. But also, I will point out that dart currently offers pretty much this exact service. It's called Go Link. There's a point to Point Plano pilot program, and I rely on it to get to and from work every day, and it sucks, go link is only there because Plano has failed to generate to plan a city that generates enough demand for busses every go link zone that dart has to set up represents a failure of a Dart member city to act as a partner in its relationship with dart, and a failure to effectively plan a city. Also to state the obvious as a dart writer jeopardize jeopardizing Plano's relationship with dart with a resolution like this one would be an immense pressure and harm to me, and residents like me who rely on Dart. All this is to say, if Plano wants more value from their dollar from Dart, start planning like it and vote no on this resolution. Any others? No. All right. I'll confine the comments to the council motion to approve. Mayor. I will second that. So I have a motion and a second to approve. Item number one. All in favor? Motion passes. Next item. Item number two. Consideration to approve an expenditure for the Tom Muehlenbeck Recreation Center renovation project. Number F a, c, f 7525. In the amount of $13,568,203 from Lee Lewis Construction, Incorporated and authorizing the City Manager to execute all necessary documents. Good evening. How are you guys? So what, 2 or 3 years ago, we started working on this project, and now we're finally here to get it started. We chose the, construction manager at risk delivery method on this project because we wanted to have the ability as we went through the design iterations to affect the project budget and end up with exactly what we wanted at the end. What this project includes is, is more or less a full cosmetic renovation for almost all the finishes throughout the building, all the major systems from the roof, the mechanical, the lighting network, sound systems, all of it's being replaced on this project. In addition, we are going to remodel the locker rooms heavily. They need some adjustments to the current state of what's being asked of us. More private locker rooms for family type single user locker rooms. Also, the aquatics area is going to see some major improvements. All the inside pool decks are going to be replaced. We're going to update the small toddler area to have a zero depth entry and a bunch of new play structures, both inside and outside, as well as slide tower Remediations and repairs. Overall budget for this project is 15.5 million, and 1.5 of it is going towards design and supporting design services. The item in front of you tonight is the guaranteed maximum price for our CMR of 13.5, and change, and then the remaining is for $431,000 of other construction costs. Over half of that is fixtures and furniture for the project. And so when we were scoping this job, we worked heavily with the Parks Department to talk about lessons learned on other renovations of other rec centers and what the best approach was in the past. We've kind of lengthened them out, given portions of the project and done it in phases, and we've discovered that it's just better to rip off the Band-Aid, do it as short as possible, shut it down, and it even saves us money because we're not paying as much as general conditions for the contractor being on site. As long. So with that said, we're hoping to give notice to proceed if approved tonight to the contractor in July, we would start on all of our submittals, of all of our long lead materials, and in February of next year, we would actually close the center. And through February of October into November, with small punch list items, what we expect to be substantially completed in October. And with that, I'll see if there's any questions. Thank you. Mayor. Council, I would just say that our mühlenbeck centers are most used recreation centers. Doctor Smith back there nodding his head, so while I know that it's our newest recreation center, it is close to 20 years old, a little bit less, but close to 20 years old. And being the most used, we have a standard of excellence. And so this is allowing us to keep up the condition of that important facility. Thank you. All right. My only my only concern, I think I agree with you. We should shut down the whole facility because if you just keep part of it open, you spend a lot of GC money on keeping it clean, keeping the safety of all the users. So shutting it completely down is the best. My question is tied to the schedule because you're talking about from February to November of a major. Well, use recreational facility. Did we provide any type of incentive to the our contractor to beat that schedule? And on top of that, do we have any leads on that if they don't meet that schedule for us? I just worked on the contract is $1,000 per day elves. And there are incentives. All of our current Seema contracts have incentives built in for both shared savings on buyouts. So on day one they're projecting what the costs are when they actually sign the contracts with the subcontract. That's a shared savings. City gets 75. See markets 25. Likewise if they finish early that monthly general conditions model, we've established with them 75 to the city, 25 to the contractor. So yes, there are incentives to finish early. Thank you, yeah. Did we consider I don't I'm assuming. And, Mr. Smith can correct me that our most used time would be in the summer when people are out of school. Did we consider waiting until school was back in session? So we're not missing the highest traffic closing down with the highest traffic month? We definitely consider that. We were hoping to establish it to try to shut it down this fall, but our long lead items are aquatics features or rooftop mechanical units. We just can't get in time to do that. So if we push it off for a whole nother season, we would easily spend. I don't want to say almost another million dollars in escalation to get to that next summer. Just to not shut it down this summer. So visiting with Ron's folks, we decided that this was the best approach. Oh no, I didn't have anything. All right. Anything else? I'll take a motion to approve. Second. Thank you. I have a motion a second to approve, item number two. All in favor? Motion passes. Our next item is comments of public interest. Comments of public interest. This portion of the meeting is to allow up to three minutes per speaker, with 30 total minutes on items of interest or concern, and not on items that are on the current agenda. The Council may not discuss these items, but may respond with factual or policy information. The Council may choose to place the item on a future agenda, and we do have two speakers this evening. Let me. The first one is Michael Ruben Trejo. Mr. Trejo. Good evening, starting my video. Just making sure everyone can see me. Go ahead, thank you, esteemed city council members and mayor, for the opportunity to speak today. I appreciate the hard work and dedication you all put into making this city an excellent place to live, I would like to bring to your attention, circumstance that I believe places an undue burden on families like mine who are new arrivals in the city of Plano, my family and I established residence in Plano in March of this year, and we were surprised to learn that we will be paying $60 a month for until May of 2025, at which point the city of Plano will establish a sewer rate for our house through the winter quarter average. Wqa method, I spoke with the customer and utility services department, who informed me that this practice is controlled by city ordinance and that they are unable to deviate from this ordinance, hence my speaking in this forum on this topic. I suspect that our sewer usage over the next calendar year will be under the $60 a month that we will be required to pay, as such, I think that it is unfair that we will be charged more than we will use, in essence, we are subsidizing other, by definition, more affluent new residents of Plano who do not need our subsidy. I would suggest that if the city wants to keep the current wqa method of calculating sewer usage, then they should credit or debit accounts like ours. After the first wqa is established, that is in addition to being prospective. The first wqa would be retrospective as well. And would apply to the entire period during which an account was charged the city average. If our first wqa is below the city average, my account would be credited with the overage, but if our first wqa is above the city average, my account would be debited for the short shortfall, such a change would ensure that everyone pays their fair share while still respecting the sewer metering challenges that give rise to the Wqa method in the first place. I'm happy to discuss this issue further, but thank you for your time and allowing me to this concern. Thank you Michael. Mayor Council, I would just add in that the reason for the winter quarter average is, the city does not meter sewer flow out of individual homes. So we this is an estimation, process that the city has adopted. That's an industry standard that really focuses on the winter months where irrigation is at a minimum, throughout the, throughout the city. And that is used, as a process to estimate how much water is actually returned via sewer. Since you're not irrigating your lawn, theoretically you're using more dishwashing, bathrooms and laundry. And that stuff is that water once used is then returned to the system, we've had this in place for a number of years, and new residents that come in get the citywide average, applied to them. We have not considered looking at the, the, the rebate aspect, aspect as far as truing up at that time. But they do establish an individual, winter quarter average over that time frame, and the, the issue, I think would become the administrative side of things as well as the potential for some to have ballooned costs, in that. So this has been the process that we've looked at. But if council, want to look at that, if you'll reach out to me, I'll be happy to do some research with our finance staff to see what that would entail. Thank you. Next Yeah. The next speaker is Tara Rice. Let me. Take just a second. Miss rice. Miss rice. Go ahead. Good evening, I am here to address, the mayor, about the misconduct of his police department that they have became complicit in with Fort Worth PD, since April 12th, and I was I was here in January speaking about the wrongful which they contribute to the arrest of my juvenile son , but what work police department has enlisted nine different city police departments to come after me for speaking publicly since, of the of a for my son's the injustice. Well apparently that didn't work, so I was arrested on April 12th, 2022 and listed as a witness to testify as my son, my persistence and holding individuals accountable, I have lost my job, and this is since 2022. I have been left homeless countless times. The typical story for someone to you know that they can't gain stability will be that they're on drugs. Well, that's not my story. And the reason why I'm addressing the council today is because Robert Fever has arrested me. He didn't mention in his arrest report that he he did a complete traffic stop three miles from Walmart. But it was a lie. And he took me into custody. And as a result, that was my first malicious prosecute. I missed my court date, left me with a warrant, just recently, the state has become complicit. So basically, my main goal is today. I can't even get a job to take care of my children. Mayor, you have eight children. One of you have four daughters. I have two daughters, three and four. They think going after the government is my job. It's not my job. But I would like to raise my children in peace and live. I can't even do that. You know how many jobs I've been denied from because of this hanging over my head? Something that's not that that your that you allowed your police department to become involved in . Well, I'm going to make it my job to make sure your Plano and all others will be held accountable for their their part because this is unacceptable. My children deserve better. My daughters don't deserve to grow up in a world where I'm fighting the government for something that they got elected to do, I am demanding those charges be dropped immediately because I'm going to make it my job to make sure you are. Okay there being no further business, we are adjourned. Thank you. Sure. Yeah. Nobody can go back there, except the city employees. Can