DIRECTOR. >> THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT. I BROUGHT PEOPLE THAT KNOW MUCH MORE ABOUT IT. I'VE GOT MATTE WHO IS THE INTERIM DIVISION MANAGER FOR PUBLIC ART, AND ANGELA SANCHEZ, NO RELATION. THEY'RE GOING TO COME UP AND SHARE. >>COUN. BASSAN: GOOD EVENING. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME TODAY. AS DR. SANCHEZ EXPLAINED, I'M ANGELA SANCHEZ. I'M GOING TO SHARE WITH YOU INFORMATION ABOUT THE 2024 PUBLIC ART CENSUS OF ALBUQUERQUE AND BERNALILLO COUNTY. WE'RE ROLLING OUT THE REPORT IN THE DATA OF ALL THE CENSUS INFORMATION THAT WAS FOUND. THIS IS A PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE PUBLIC ART PROGRAM FOR 1.5% FOR ART. AS WELL AS THE BERNALILLO COUNTY ART PROGRAM. WHICH IS A RESEARCH AND DESIGN STUDIO WHO DEVELOPED THE PUBLIC ART CENSUS MODEL. LIKE THE UNITED STATES CENSUS, THE PUBLIC ART CENSUS IS A POINT IN TIME STUDY, SPECIFICALLY OF 2024. IT'S REALLY MEANT TO CAPTURE THE ART AND CREATIVITY OF A COMMUNITY. AND A PUBLIC ART EXPERIENCE OF THE AVERAGE PERSON. IT INCLUDES PUBLICLY-FUNDED AT WORK IN THE PUBLIC SPACES SUCH AS THE FUNDED SIDE. AS WELL AS PRIVATELY FUNDED. THE LOCAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE WAS FORMED, THIS INCLUDED ARTISTS, ARTS ADMINISTRATORS, PLANNERS, AND COMMUNITY PARTICIPANTS TO REALLY FORM WHAT ART MEANS FOR OUR LOCAL COMMUNITY IN ALBUQUERQUE AND BERNALILLO COUNTY. THAT INCLUDED THE ADDITION OF ART WORK CATEGORIES SUCH AS HOT AIR BALLOONS AND LOW RIDERS. LOCAL CANVASSERS WENT OUT TO THE PUBLIC SPACES. AND THEY TOOK PHOTOGRAPHS AND DOCUMENTATION OF THE CONDITION OF ART WORK, AND LOCATION OF WORKS OF ART AS WELL AS IF THERE'S ANY SIGNATURE ON-SITE. WHO IS THE ARTIST MAKING THE ART. THEY TOOK THE DATA AND ANALYZED THIS WITH FACIAL AND CIVIC DITA SUCH AS CRIME, HOUSING, ACCESSIBILITY, TRANSIT AND INVESTMENT. THE AREA THAT WAS CANVASSED WAS BERNALILLO COUNTY. THAT INCLUDED 20,000 LINEAR MILES AND PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAYS. THIS DID NOT GO INTO GATED COMMUNITIES. OR NO BUILDING ART FROM THE INSIDE. I'LL WRAP UP QUICKLY. WHAT'S REVEALED IS THERE'S 11,364 WORKS OF ART THROUGHOUT BERNALILLO COUNTY. FOR PERSPECTIVE, THE CITY'S 1.5% FOR ART IS 342 AT THE TIME OF THE STUDY. THERE'S SO MUCH MORE HAPPENING. WE ALSO FOUND THAT WORK IS EXCELLENT TO VERY GOOD CONDITION. OUR COMMUNITY CARES ABOUT ART IN PUBLIC SPACE. WE ALSO HAVE GOT ACTION ITEMS FOR THE CITY AND COUNTY FOR OUR PROGRAM TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT FOR FUTURE PROJECTS. IN CONCLUSION, WE ARE SO EXCITED FOR THIS CENSUS, THE DATA, THE REPORT TO REALLY UNDERSTAND AND CALIBRATE THE PUBLIC ART ALL ACROSS BERNALILLO COUNTY. BUT ALSO LOOK AT WHERE THERE'S PUBLIC ART DESERTS. AREAS WHERE THERE'S LESS ART THAT PEOPLE EXPERIENCE IN THEIR DAY TO DAY LIVES. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU SO MUCH. ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? COUNCILOR PEÑA. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I THINK YOU ALLUDED TO IT AT THE END. JUST ART, AND FINDING WHERE THERE'S NOT. DO YOU HAVE A PLAN ON HOW YOU'RE GOING TO ADDRESS THAT? >> DEFINITELY. THANK YOU. MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR PEÑA, WE DID. WE IDENTIFIED PUBLIC ART DESERTS. SO THERE'S NO PUBLIC ART. THERE'S VARIOUS TYPES OF PUBLIC ART DESERTS THAT WERE IDENTIFIED. OUR PLAN FOR THE PUBLIC ART PROGRAM IS TO THINK WHERE ARE WE PLACING ART WORK IN THE COMMUNITY AND OUTREACH WE'RE DOING TO INFORM THE WORK PUT IN THESE PLACES. WE DON'T WANT TO JUST PUT SOMETHING THERE. WE WANT TO INCLUDE COMMUNITY INPUT. >>COUN. PEÑA: MADAM PRESIDENT, IF YOU CAN SHARE THAT INFORMATION WITH ME, OR THE REST OF THE COUNCIL, I WOULD APPRECIATE IT. YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO IT NOW. BUT IF YOU CAN SHARE THAT WITH ME. >> SURE. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. YOU SAID 11,364 WORKS OF ART. THAT'S AMAZING. THAT'S A LOT OF ARTWORK WE HAVE IN THE COMMUNITY. AND MOST OF THE ARTWORK I'VE SEEN IS REALLY SPECTACULAR. THANKS FOR THE WORK. THE ONLY QUESTION I HAVE IS WHAT'S THAT VALUED AT? >> NARRATOR: IF YOU . >>COUN. BASSAN: IF YOU CAN -- >>COUN. SANCHEZ: WHAT'S THE VALUE OF THE ARTWORK? >> WE DON'T KNOW THE FULL VALUE OF ALL 11,364 WORKS. WE KNOW THE VALUE OF THE CITY PUBLIC ART WORK PUT IN. THE ARTWORK PART OF THE 11,364 INCLUDE MURALS THAT PEOPLE HAVE PAINTED ON THEIR GARAGE DOORS. IT MIGHT BE SPECIAL ZONES PAINTED AND DISPLAYED. IT MIGHT BE ROADRUNNER SCULPTURES. IT'S HARD TO PUT A VALUE ON ALL OF THE OBJECTS CREATED. THAT'S PART OF THE PUZZLE. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: MADAM PRESIDENT, I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION THAT FOLLOWS THE SAME LINES. I JUST WANTED TO SEE IF YOU CAN GET US AN IDEA -- I'M JUST CURIOUS BECAUSE I WANT TO KNOW WHAT WE'VE SPENT ON PUBLIC ART AS A CITY AND WITHIN THE LAST FOUR YEARS. AND YOU CAN GIVE ME AN IDEA OF HOW MUCH WE'VE SPENT THERE. I WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. AND KIND OF AN ITEMIZED IDEA OF WHAT -- JUST A DESCRIPTION OF EACH PIECE OF ART AND WHAT'S THE VALUE AND HOW MUCH WE'VE SPENT OVER THE LAST FOUR YEARS. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, I DON'T HAVE THE FULL NUMBER IN FRONT OF ME FOR PUBLIC ART FOR THE LAST FOUR YEARS. FOR THE KNOWN WORKS THAT WERE PART OF THE PUBLIC ART CENSUS THAT WERE FUNDED BY THE CITY'S 1.5% THAT WAS MORE THAN $11 MILLION OF INVESTMENT. THAT WAS ALSO OVER 46 YEARS. TO GIVE YOU A RANGE OF WHAT WAS CAPTURED IN THIS CENSUS DATA, I DON'T HAVE THE NUMBER OVER THE PAST FOUR YEARS. >>COUN. BASSAN: YOU CAN JUST SEND IT OVER, THE LAST FOUR YEARS, ONCE YOU HAVE IT. THAT WOULD BE GREAT. THANK YOU FOR SHARING THAT. I'M ASSUMING THAT'S THE REPORT OF THE CENSUS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION AND POSITIVITY. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO THE JOURNAL. I MOVE APPROVAL OF THE MAY 19th JOURNAL. THERE'S A SECOND. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILORS, WE'VING TO COMMUNICATION AND INTRODUCTION. CHANGES TO THE LET OF INTRODUCTION? >>COUN. LEWIS: I MOVE THE RULES BE SUSPENDED FOR INTRODUCING R-163 AND REFERRING IT TO THE FINANCE AND GOVERNMENT OPERATION COMMITTEE. R-163 AND ADJUSTING FISCAL YEAR 2026 OPERATING APPROPRIATIONS AND RESERVES TO ENHANCE THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT INEFFORT TO INCREASE PERMITTING EFFICIENCY FOR THE BETTERMENT OF THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE. >>COUN. BASSAN: IS THERE A SECOND? >>COUN. SANCHEZ: SECOND. >>COUN. BACA: SECOND. >>COUN. BASSAN: ANY DISCUSSION? COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. JUST CURIOUS WHY THIS IS GOING TO FINANCE AND GOVERNMENT OPERATIONS AND NOT LAND USE PLANNING AND ZONING? >>COUN. LEWIS: MADAM PRESIDENT, OUR STAFF CAN ANSWER THAT. I THINK BECAUSE IT HAS TO DO WITH THE BUDGET. I MEAN, CERTAINLY FINE IF IT GOES TO LAND USE. I THINK BECAUSE IT'S ADJUSTING SOME -- IT HAS TO DO WITH WHAT WE ALLOCATED FOR THE BUDGET. >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR LEWIS THAT WAS THE RATIONALE. IT WAS BECAUSE IT WAS ALLOCATION AND APPROPRIATIONS. THAT'S WHY IT'S REFERRED TO FGO. ALSO LUPZ COULD BE AN APPROPRIATE VENUE FOR IT. IT'S THE WILL OF THE COUNCIL. >>COUN. BASSAN: I THINK WE'LL LEAVE IT IN FGO. IF THERE'S A REASON TO BE REFERRED TO LUPZ AFTER THAT WE CAN MOVE IT TO LUPZ AT ANOTHER POINT IN TIME. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. BASSAN: ANY OTHER CHANGES TO THE LETTER OF INTRODUCTION? SEEING NONE. I MOVE APPROVAL OF THE LETTER OF INTRODUCTION. >>COUN. LEWIS: SECOND. >>COUN. BASSAN: SECOND BY COUNCILOR LEWIS. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. BASSAN: NO REPORTS OF COMMITTEES. ANY DEFERRALS OR WITHDRAWALS? SEEING NONE. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO THE CONSENT AGENDA. CHANGES TO THE CONSENT AGENDA. COUNCILOR GROUT. >>COUN. GROUT: MADAM PRESIDENT, I PULL ITEM A, EC-353 OFF THE CONSENT AGENDA. EC-353 IS IMPLEMENTATION PROGRAM FOR THE VOUCHER TASK FORCE CITY COUNCIL RESOLUTION R-24-109. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU. COUNCILOR ROGERS. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I WOULD LIKE TO PULL ITEM I, EC-400 OFF THE CONSENT AGENDA. IT'S THE Q3 FY25 ALBUQUERQUE RIDE QUARTERLY SECURITY REPORT WITH APD, ACS AND METRO SECURITY DATA. >>COUN. BASSAN: ANY OTHER CHANGES TO THE CONSENT AGENDA. THE ADMINISTRATION HAS WITHDRAWN G, EC -- RECOMMENDATION FOR AWARD FOR SUN PORT RENTAL SHUTTLE PUS SERVICES. FOR INDIVIDUALS APPOINTED TO SERVE ON A BOARD OR COMMISSION, THANK YOU FOR YOUR WILLINGNESS TO SERVE. I MOVE APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT AGENDA. SECOND FROM COUNCILOR LEWIS. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR GROUT, EC-353. >>COUN. GROUT: I JUST WANTED TO BE ABLE TO COMMENT ON THIS. I WANT TO -- I UNDERSTAND THAT THE TASK FORCE THAT'S COMING TOGETHER HAS COME TOGETHER OVER THE PAST FEW MONTHS. IT'S DONE SOME REALLY GREAT WORK. THERE'S SOME GOOD THINGS COMING OUT OF IT. I WANTED TO PUBLIC LAY SAY THANK YOU. I KNOW THERE'S SO MUCH TO DO. THINGS ARE HEADING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. IT'S A TALL ASK. IT'S REALLY NICE TO SEE EVERYBODY WORKING SO HARD ON IT AND WANTING TO DO THE BEST FOR THE PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY. I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU. I DO MOVE PROVAL. -- APPROVAL. >>COUN. BASSAN: THERE'S A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN AND COUNCILOR ROGERS. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COUNCILOR ROGERS. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. THANK YOU, COUNCILOR GROUT. I ATTENDED THE MEETING TODAY TO GET SOME UPDATES FROM THE DEPARTMENT AND WAS ALSO REALLY PLEASED AT THE PROGRESS THEY'VE MADE. I JUST HAVE TO SAY FROM THE PUBLIC, PLEASE KEEP AN EYE ON THIS. THIS IS SOMETHING WE'RE WORKING ON TO STRENGTHEN OUR PROGRAM AND TO MAKE SURE THAT WE KNOW OUR FUNDING IS GOING TO IMPACT FOLKS LIVES AND HELP THEM TO SELF-SUFFICIENCY. I THINK IT'S GREAT TO SEE HOW WE'RE LOOKING AT DATA AND HOW THE DEPARTMENT IS REALLY THINKING THOUGHTFULLY OF WHAT DATA WE SHOULD LOOK AT AND MAKING SURE WE CAN PULL THOSE OUT. I JUST WANT TO ECHO COUNCILOR GROUT THAT WE'RE HEADED IN THE REALLY GREAT DIRECTION. AND I WAS REALLY PLEASED TO SEE THE WORK THAT'S HAPPENING. THIS IS THE EXAMPLE OF PEOPLE THINK DIFFERENTLY AND THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX THEY CAN THINK OF SOME SOLUTIONS. I'M REALLY EXCITED TO SEE WHAT COMES OUT OF THE WORK AND ALL THAT'S WORKING IN THE SAME DIRECTION TO MAKE THIS PROGRAM BETTER. >>COUN. BASSAN: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? THE MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL OF EC-353. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR ROGERS. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MADAM VICE PRESIDENT. I PULLED EC-400 CONSENT AGENDA FOR A COUPLE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE DATE A AND THE EQUITY PORTION OF THE BILL. JUST A COUPLE QUESTIONS AROUND DATA FOR APD VERSUS ACS VERSUS METRO SECURITY. I KNOW I'M -- I DIDN'T SEND THESE AHEAD OF TIME. JUST IN FULL DISCLOSURE. I KNOW YOU HAVE TO GET BACK TO US. I WAS NOTICING SOME OF THE DATA, AND SOME OF IT NOT THERE. I JUST WANTED TO TALK THROUGH A LITTLE BIT OF THE PROCESS FOR SECURITY AND HOW THAT'S TRACKED AND WHY WE DON'T HAVE SPECIFIC DATA FOR APD AND ACS, SPECIFICALLY ON ROUTE 66. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR ROGERS, WE HAVE DEPUTY DIRECTOR FROM TRANSIT ON ZOOM THAT COULD POTENTIALLY ANSWER THE QUESTION, IF NOT, AT LEAST TAKE A QUESTION TO GET YOU A FULL COMPREHENSIVE ANSWER. DEPUTY DIRECTOR MICHAEL DAVIS. >>COUN. BASSAN: GOOD EVENING, DIRECTOR. >> GOOD EVENING. MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILORS, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE. I'M MAKE DAVIS, DEPUTY DIRECTOR FOR TRANSIT. WE HAVE BEEN TRACKING THE DATA AND PRESENT THIS EVERY THREE MONTHS. THE ONE COMMENT I'LL MAKE IS WE DID HAVE A DECREASE IN APD INFORMATION AS WE'RE TRANSITIONING FROM METO SECURITY TO APD. WE DID HAVE MORE INFORMATION ON THE APD SIDE, BUT WE ALSO HAD AN INCREASE THIS LAST QUARTER, WHICH IS JANUARY THROUGH MARCH, MAINLY DUE TO FIRES. I THINK THE QUESTION WAS WHY DID WE NOT HAVE AS MUCH DATA FOR ACS AND METRO AS WE HAVE FOR APD. DOES THAT SOUND CORRECT? >>COUN. ROGERS: ALMOST. THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. IN THE SPREAD SHEET WE RECEIVED, WE HAVE CALLS FOR APD BY ROUTE, ACS FOR ALWAYS BY SERVICE BY ROUTE, AND METRO SECURITY BY ROUTE. FOR ME, TRACKING THESE REALLY HELPS WITH US SEEING WHAT'S HAPPENING AS FAR AS CALLS. AND ACTUALLY BEING ABLE TO HAVE FREE BUSES SOMETIMES PEOPLE DO MORE CRIME ON THE BUSES. THIS IS HIGHLY IMPORTANT TO SEE WHAT'S HAPPENING ON THE BUSES AND ALL OF IT FOR APD AND ACS IS NOT APPLICABLE. I JUST HAVE JANUARY THROUGH MARCH ON THIS, AND FOR METRO SECURITY IT'S ALL VERY LOW. I GUESS MY POINT IS CAN WE GET SOME ACTUAL DATA SEE WHAT'S HAPPENING AND MAYBE IN A WAY THAT WE CAN EASILY DIGEST IT? POTENTIALLY. ROUTE 66 IS THE ONE I'M PARTICULARLY INTERESTED IN. AND I SEE NOTHING THERE. I JUST WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME DATA. ONE MORE QUESTION, IF I MAY. WHEN WE GET TO THE EQUITY CONVERSATION OF THE STUDY, BUT THERE'S ONE QUESTION I HAVE THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT. FOR THE AUTOMATIC COUNTERS, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT SIX ROUTE BUSES DO NOT ALL HAVE AUTOMATIC PEOPLE COUNTERS ONBOARD. GIVEN THE DATA FOR RIDERSHIP VERSUS THIS SAFETY DATA, HOW DOES TRANSIT ENSURE THAT'S ACCURATE IF WE DON'T HAVE COUNTERS ON EVERY BUS? >> YEAH, WE DO HAVE COUNTERS ON ALL OF OUR BUSES AT THIS TIME. IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING. WE DO A LITTLE BIT OF A SAMPLING OF OUR DATA THROUGH THOSE COUNTERS. WE USED TO HAVE A MIX OF FARE BOX COUNTERS AS WELL AS INFRARED COUNTERS THAT ARE NOW ENTIRELY INFRARED COUNTERS. >>COUN. ROGERS: WAS ALL THE BUSES AT THE TIME OF THE STUDY. MY UNDERSTANDING IS AT THE TIME OF THEEQUITY STUDY, WE DID NOT. >> CORRECT. WE MADE THE CHANGE OVER RECENTLY. SO YEAH. WE HAVE A MIX OF DATA IN THE PAST. IT IS STILL ACCURATE AS FAR AS RIDERSHIP GOES. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU. >>COUN. BASSAN: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? COUNCILOR ROGERS, DID YOU WANT TO MAKE A MOTION? >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I MAKE A MOTION APPROVE -- RECEIPT BE NOTED FOR EC-400. >>COUN. BASSAN: THERE'S A MOTION AND SECOND FROM COUNCILOR LEWIS. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. BASSAN: MOVE TO ANNOUNCEMENTS. COUNCILOR GROUT. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. THERE WILL BE AN INTERGOVERNMENTAL LEGISLATIVE RELATIONS COMMITTEE MEETING ON WEDNESDAY, JUNE 4th, AT 3 P.M. VIA ZOOM VIDEO CONFERENCE. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR CHAMPINE. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: -- THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. THERE WILL BE A FINANCE AND GOVERNMENT OPERATIONS COMMITTEE ON MONDAY JUNE 9, AT THE VINCENT E. GRIEGO CHAMBERS BASEMENT LEVEL. THIS WILL BE A HYBRID MEETING. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: MADAM PRESIDENT, THERE WILL BE A LAND USE PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING ON WEDNESDAY, JUNE 11, AT 5 P.M. HERE IN THE CHAMBERS. THIS WILL BE A HYBRID MEETING. >>COUN. BASSAN . >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU. MOVE TO FINANCIAL INTRUMEN INSTRUMENTS. WE'RE GOING TO HEAR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC CAN PROVIDE PUBLIC COMMENT IF THEY SIGNED UP PER THE INSTRUCTIONS PUBLISHED. EACH PARTICIPANT WILL HAVE TWO MINUTES TO PRESENT. COMMENTS ARE TO BE ADDRESSED TO THE COUNCILORS ONLY THROUGH THE COUNCIL PRESIDENT. ANY DISRUPTIVE CONDUCT WILL RESULT IN REMOVAL FROM THE MEETING. THE TWO MINUTE TIME LIMIT, A BILL WILL RING TO INDICATE YOUR TIME IS UP. CALL THE FIRST SPEAKER, IF YOU'RE ON DECK TO SPEAK AFTER THE CURRENT SPEAKER, PLEASE MAKE YOUR WAY TO THE FRONT. >> THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT OUR FIRST SPEAKER IS MELISSA FOLLOWED BY SONYA. >> HELLO, CAN YOU HEAR ME OKAY? I'M THE PROGRAM DIRECTOR OF THE JOB CONNECT PROGRAM WITH HEADING HOME. THIS IS MELISSA. DIRECTOR OF OPERATIONS. I'M HERE TO REQUEST FUNDING CONSIDERATION FOR THE PROGRAM WHICH LAUNCHED IN JANUARY OF 2023 WITH THE CITY'S FINANCIAL SUPPORT TO FAIL CRITICAL GAP IN OUR CITY'S HOMELESSNESS RESPONSE. TO DATE, THE PROGRAM HAS HAD 474 INDIVIDUALS ENROLLED WITH 279 SECURED EMPLOYMENT. THAT IS A 59% SUCCESS RATE. WE'RE SUPER EXCITED TO SAY THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO ACHIEVE THAT. JOB CONNECT REMOVES BARRIERS AND CONNECTS PEOPLE TO OPPORTUNITY QUICKLY AND EFFECTIVELY. WE SERVE INDIVIDUALS EXPERIENCING SITUATIONAL HOMELESSNESS. SITUATIONS OF HOMELESSNESS IN THIS CASE WOULD BE CAUSED BY EXTERNAL FACTORS SUCH AS JOB LOSS, EVICTION, DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, FINANCIAL CRISIS. THESE INDIVIDUALS DO NOT HAVE UNTREATED MENTAL HEALTH ILLNESSES OR SUBSTANCE USE DISORDERS. AND THEREFORE, OFTEN, DON'T QUALIFY FOR TRADITIONAL SUPPORTIVE SERVICES. BUT THEY'RE MOTIVATED, CAPABLE AND READY. WE FOCUS ON EMPLOYABILITY. WE MEET PEOPLE WHERE THEY'RE AT. AND WE GUIDE THEM INTO THE WORKFORCE, PROVIDING SERVICES THAT RANGE FROM RESUME DEVELOPMENT AND JOB COACHING TO LINKAGE WITH WORK READINESS PROGRAMS OFFERED BY COMMUNITY PARTNERS INCLUDING GOODWILL AND NEW MEXICO DEPARTMENT OF WORKFORCE SOLUTIONS. WE ALSO CULTIVATED STRONG RELATIONSHIPS WITH EMPLOYERS THAT BELIEVE IN SECOND CHANCES, SUCH AS THE HIRING HUB, ISOTOPES, JOB CONNECT PROVIDES THREE MONTHS THAT WE TRY TO TRACK OUR CLIENTS SUCCESSES. >>COUN. BASSAN: IF YOU CAN FINISH YOUR NEXT SENTENCE, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON. >> FOR US, EMPLOYMENT IS THE END GOAL. IT IS THE PATHWAY TO STABILITY. JOB CONNECT HELPS CATCH PEOPLE BEFORE THEY SPIRAL AND OFFER STRUCTURED ACCOUNTABILITY, PURPOSE AND SUPPORT BEFORE CHRONIC HOMELESSNESS CRIME OR ADDICTION TAKES HOLD. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU. >> WE'RE OPEN TO QUESTIONS. >> SONYA FOLLOWED BY ANAMI. >> GOOD EVENING. CAN I ASK THE MEMBER TO PLEASE STAND. COUNCILOR BASSAN, DISTINGUISHED CITY COUNCILORS, I'M SONYA. SOCIAL ACTION CHAIR OF THE ALBUQUERQUE CHAPTER OF DELTA SIGMA INCORPORATED. FOR OVER A QUARTER OF A CENTURY WE HAVE CHAMPIONS PUBLIC SERVICE, TACKLING CHALLENGES FACED BY AFRICAN-AMERICANS AND ALL AMERICANS THROUGHOUT OUR UNWAIVERING COMMITMENT WE HAVE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND EDUCATIONAL DEVELOPMENT, INTERNATIONAL AWARENESS AND INVOLVEMENT, PHYSICAL AND MENTAL HEALTH AND POLITICAL AWARENESS. OUR LEGACY IS CARRIED FORWARD BY MARSHA PLEDGE, SECRETARY OF HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT. FORMER MAYOR OF ATLANTA. ARETHA FRANKLIN AND MICKEY JIOVANI. AND WE HAVE CITY LEADERS. DIRECTOR OF OFFICE OF EQUITY AND INCLUSION. RITA MOSS. OFFICE OF FINANCIAL EMPOWERMENT. POLICY ANALYST FOR COUNCILOR ROGERS. AND YOURS TRULY, I'M THE FORMER CABINET SECRETARY FOR VETERANS SERVICES. WE'VE SERVED OUR GREAT CITY WITH PRIDE FOR OVER 50 YEARS AND AWARDED THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS IN SCHOLARSHIPS. IN 2021, WE IMPLEMENTED A FIVE-YEAR STRATEGIC PLAN LATER UPDATED FOLLOWING A COMMUNITY NEEDS ASSESSMENT IN 2023. WE IDENTIFIED OPPORTUNITIES FOR IMPROVING AFFORDABLE HOUSING, ECONOMIC STABILITY, HEALTH AWARENESS AND PUBLIC EDUCATION. PRIORITY FOR A THRIVING ALBUQUERQUE. WE'RE SERVICE LEADERS THAT BELIEVE ADVOCACY MUST BE MATCHED WITH ACTION. WE STAND READY TO ENGAGE AND SERVE ON BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS AND TO HELP SHAPE POLICIES THAT UPLIFT OUR RESIDENTS. A STRONGER ALBUQUERQUE IS WITHIN REACH. LET'S BUILD TOGETHER. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU. >> ANAMI FOLLOWED BY THERESA. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, HAPPY PRIDE MONTH. WITH A.I. MAKING THE DRIVE THAT IT DOES, AND PROGRESSING RAPIDLY, I NOTICED A PATTERN IN SOME AI MEDIA THAT'S CREATED WHERE IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S BEING TRAINED USING POLICE BODY CAM FOOTAGE ORSURVEILLANCE SYSTEMS. I KNOW THE CITY OF DENVER IS VERY CAREFUL OF WHERE THEIR POLICE DATA AND FOOTAGE GOES AND WHERE LICENSE READER INFORMATION GOES. I WORRY THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT MIGHT BE TRAINING ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE IN A ROUND ABOUT MANNER. I WORRY THAT WHEN ROBO COPS DO BECOME A THING THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN TRAINED BY APD. I THINK APD -- I THINK WE SHOULD LOOK INTO WHAT IT IS THE CITY OF DENVER IS DOING TO MAKE SURE DATA IS USED RESPONSIBLY AND EMULATE THEM. THANK YOU. >> THERESA FOLLOWED BY LISA. >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL PRESIDENT, VICE PRESIDENT, COUNCIL MEMBERS, I STAND BEFORE YOU CONCERNED ABOUT THE CLOSING OF JOB CORPS. MY DAUGHTER WAS 200 STUDENTS GIVEN NOTICED THAT THEY MUST LEAVE BY NEXT WEEK. THESE YOUNG PEOPLE, MANY FROM DISADVANTAGED BACKGROUNDS, HAVE BEEN WORKING HARD TO CHANGE THEIR LIVES AND NOW THEY'RE BEING TOLD TO PACK UP WITH NOWHERE TO GO. SOMEBODY HAS TO BE PICKED UP BY FAMILY AND MANY FACE HOMELESSNESS. THEY COME SEEKING EDUCATION, STABILITY, WHAT MESSAGE ARE WE SENDING WHEN WE ALLOW THEM TO BE PUSHED ON THE STREET BY AN EXECUTIVE DECISION MADE WITHOUT A WARNING OR SUPPORT OR RESOURCES? WHO DOES JOB CORPS SERVE, MIGHT YOU ASK? LOW INCOME, YOUNG PEOPLE AGES 16-24. MAJORITY BLACK, LATINO, INDIGENOUS AND YOUTH OF COLOR. AND SURVIVORS OF VIOLENCE. YOUTH WITHOUT A HIGH SCHOOL DIPLOMA SEEKING A SECOND CHANCE. YOU OWE IT TO THE YOUTH TO STAND FROM THEM. I URGE YOU, PLEASE ADVOCATE ON THEIR BEHALF AND GIVE THEM THE SUPPORT THEY DESPERATELY NEED. HELP US ENSURE THEY'RE NOT FORGOTTEN. THEY DESERVE BETTER FROM US THAN TO BE THROWN ON THE STREETS. I SEEK YOUR SUPPORT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> LISA FOLLOWED BY DAVID. >> IT IS ON YOUR SHOULDERS THAT I STAND. COUNCILOR BASSAN, CITY COUNCILORS, I LIVE IN DISTRICT THREE. I STAND BEFORE YOU WITH A FEW HEAVY BURDENS. I ECHO MY FRIEND THERESA. BUT THE NATIONAL GUARD, AND MILITARIZING OF OUR CIVILIAN SPACES WITH DRONE SURVEILLANCE WITHOUT WARRANTS. SPYING ON CITIZENS, WAS IS THAT MESSAGING WE'RE GIVING TO OUR CITIZENS JUSTIFYING THE MILITARIZATION? AND WHO DOES THAT ACTUALLY BENEFIT WHEN WE GAVE THAT NARRATIVE OF OUR CITY? I'M A LITTLE OFFENDED THAT WE KEEP LABELLING OUR CITY, I LIVE IN THE SOUTH VALLEY, ON THE POOR SIDE OF THE WEST SIDE. I'M VERY EXCITED. 20 YEARS I LIVED IN THIS COMMUNITY. WE HAVE WONDERFUL NEIGHBORS. FOR PEOPLE TO INSINUATE THAT BECAUSE WHERE WE LIVE AND THE COLOR OF OUR SKIN IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WE'RE THIS CRIME MAGNET, I REJECT THAT OPINION. BUT I DO WANT TO ASK, $1.5 MILLION USED EVERY TWO MONTHS. WE HAD JOB CORPS KIDS THAT COULD USE THAT FUNDING. THERE'S 200 HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS WITH JOB CORPS. THEY'RE SET TO LOSE UNEMPLOYMENT AND HOUSING IN ONE WEEK. IT'S WITHIN ONE WEEK. WE HAVE ABOUT 100 KIDS OUT ON THE STREETS. WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO? THE FEDERAL CUTS -- GUYS, WE NEED HELP. I WILL DO WHATEVER WE CAN DO TO GET THESE KIDS SOME HOUSING AND JOBS. CYC IS YEARS AWAY FROM BEING A RESOURCE IN NEW MEXICO. WE NEED FOSTER MOMS AND PARENT AND WRAPAROUND SERVICES. THERE'S GOT TO BE SOMETHING WE CAN DO WITHIN ALBUQUERQUE. I WOULD ASK THE MAYOR, BUT THERE'S A POST ON FACEBOOK ABOUT THE IMMIGRATION STATUS IN ALBUQUERQUE. BUT THIS NATIONAL GUARD, THAT'S ON YOU. WE NEED A NEW MAYOR. >> DAVID FOLLOWED BY JANET. JANET FOLLOWED BY DENISE. >> GOOD EVENING, MADAM PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TONIGHT. I WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT IN THE OPERATING BUDGET PROCESS OF INCREASING THE LIBRARY'S BUDGET. RESTORING THE $50,000 AND ALSO ADDING $200,000 FOR TECHNOLOGY, WHICH IS GOING TO HELP US WITH THAT 400-PLUS COMPUTERS. AND IF YOU WERE NOT MADE AWARE, BERNALILLO COUNTY INCREASED THEIR YEARLY CONTRIBUTION WITH ANOTHER $250,000 ALSO FOR TECHNOLOGY. THAT WAS NUMBER ONE. NUMBER TWO, LAST WEEK I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO VISIT THREE LIBRARIES IN DISTRICT SIX. INTERNATIONAL LIBRARY, THE DAY BEFORE I LEARNED THE AIR CONDITIONER SHUT DOWN AND IT WILL BE SHUT DOWN FOR SEVERAL MORE WEEKS. I WAS ABLE TO ALSO VISIT EARNY PYLE. LAST SATURDAY, I WAS IN DISTRICT SEVEN WHERE DOZENS OF HAPPY CHILDREN AND FAMILIES ENJOYED THE KICKOFF TO COLOR OUR WORLD. THE SUMMER READING PROGRAM AT THE PUBLIC LIBRARY. ALL 19 BRANCHES. WE HAD THE LION DANCE AND PINATA PARTY. THAT WAS ENJOYABLE. AT MAY 17th, I WAS AT THE DOWNTOWN BRANCH. IF PEOPLE ARE INTERESTED IN THEIR FAMILY GENEALOGY, WE HAVE AN AMAZING RESOURCE THERE. THE ENTIRE SECOND FLOOR. AND VOLUNTEERS THAT COME TWICE A WEEK TO HELP PEOPLE USE ALL THOSE DATABASES FOR -- TEN SECONDS. OKAY. ALSO, DAVE GAVE US A FABULOUS PROGRAM ABOUT THE HISTORY OF ITALIANS IN ALBUQUERQUE AND THAT WAS GREAT. YESTERDAY, WE HAD 150 PEOPLE AT THE ALBUQUERQUE MUSEUM GETTING INFORMATION ABOUT THE SPECIAL SELECTIONS LIBRARY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND COLOR OUR WORLD THIS SUMMER. >> DENISE FOLLOWED BY ISRA. >> BEFORE I BEGIN, I LIKE TO THANK MADAM PRESIDENT AND COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK TODAY. I AM AN MTO DRIVER FOR -- I'M SORRY. I'M NERVOUS. I JUST COMPLETED MY FIRST YEAR WITH THE CITY TRANSIT. YESTERDAY. I'M SPEAKING TODAY ON BEHALF OF THE TRANSIT MCO AND SUN VAN DRIVERS. I WANTED TO ADDRESS THE ESCALATING SAFETY AND OPERATIONAL CHALLENGES FACED BY OUR CITY'S TRANSIT DRIVERS DUE TO SEVERE PASSENGER MISCONDUCT. THESE ISSUES ARE UNDERMINING DRIVER'S WELL BEING AND RELIABILITY OF OUR PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM. OUR PEAK PROBLEMS. AGGRESSIVE AND ABUSIVE BEHAVIOR. DRIVERS ENDURE VERBAL ABUSE, THREATS AND FREQUENT PHYSICAL ASSAULT. I'M ONE OF THEM. ALSO, INCLUDING THROWING ROCKS AT OUR BUSES AS WE'RE GOING BY, HOLDING UP SUN VANS HOSTAGE AND IN THE INTERNATIONAL DISTRICT AREA. OFTEN, RELATED TO WHEN THEY PULLED THE STOP REQUESTS, THEY PULL IT WAY LATE SO WE HAVE TO GO TO THE NEXT ONE, THEY GET MAD AT US FOR DOING THAT. IT'S THE PHYSICAL THREATS -- I'M STANDING HERE AS A VICTIM. THE DRIVER FELL ASLEEP, AND IT WAS MY FAULT I DIDN'T WAKE HIM UP. UNSANITARY CONDITIONS. THIS WILL BE GRAPHIC. I'M NOT GOING TO BE REAL GRAPHIC. I'M GOING TO USE PROFESSIONAL WORDS. BUSES ARE MISUSED FOR PERSONAL SPACES RESULTING IN EXPENSIVE MESSES. DISCARDED DRUGS, PARAPHERNALIA, INCLUDING FENTANYL, SMOKE EXPOSURE. THEY BLOW OUT THE SMOKE AT THE DOOR. WE GET IT. PASSENGERS SITTING AT THE BUS STOP GET IT. DO I KEEP GOING? OKAY. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR SANCHEZ REQUESTED THAT YOU CONTINUE. >> BODILY FLUIDS, URINE, FECES, VOMIT, BLOOD, SEMEN, ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE, EMPTY CONTAINERS ON THE BUSES. DRUG ACTIVITY ON TRANSIT. WE ARE THE TRANSPORTATION FOR THE DRUGS HERE IN THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE. WE ARE TRANSPORTING THESE PEOPLE TO DO THEIR BUSINESS. DRUG DISTRIBUTION, THEY'RE SELLING DRUGS ON OUR BUSES. AND WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT. IT IS ALL BECAUSE WE HAVE NO PRESENT SECURITY ON OUR BUSES. THEY JUST DO WHATEVER THEY WANT TO DO BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE SECURITY. THE FREE RIDE ABUSE. THE PERCEPTION OF FREE RIDES IS AN ENTITLEMENT LEADS TO PROLONGED TRIPS SCHEDULING DISRUPTIONS AND CHALLENGES WITH PASSENGERS REQUIRING CARE BEYOND TRANSIT'S SCOPE. WE STRONGLY REQUEST YOUR IMMEDIATE ATTENTION TO IMPLEMENT A GREATER SECURITY FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT PRESENCE ON ALL OUR TRANSIT ROUTES, STRICTER ENFORCEMENT SUCH AS CLEAR POLICY TO ENFORCEMENT, MECHANISMS FOR PASSENGER CONDUCT, MEASURES TO HOLD INDIVIDUALS ACCOUNTABLE FOR MISCONDUCT AND INSULTS. POLICY REVIEW FOR A REEVALUATION ON INFREE RIDE POLICY TO PREVENT THIS TYPE OF ABUSE. ADDRESSING THESE CONCERNS CRUCIALLY FOR DRIVER SAFETY FOR LONG-TERM VIABILITY OF OUR CITY'S TRANSIT SYSTEM, WE'RE READY TO ASSIST IN FINDING A SOLUTION. THANK YOU. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: MADAM PRESIDENT. THANK YOU. I JUST WANTED TO -- LET ME SEE WHERE I CAN FIND IT. YOU SAID THERE'S NO SECURITY PRESENT WHATSOEVER? >> I'M NOT GOING TO SAY WHATSOEVER. I GO ON AT 5 O'CLOCK ON THE MORNING. AND I DO ART AND 66. FRIDAYS I DO 66. I HAVE NO SECURITY. NO SECURITY. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: WHAT IS CARE BEYOND TRANSIT'S SCOPE MEAN? >> I WANT IT -- I DON'T KNOW HOW TO EXPLAIN IT. IT'S JUST THE SCOPE THAT WE HAVE. WE WANT TO BE FAIR TO THEM, BUT THEY HAVE TO BE FAIR TO US. IT'S JUST OUR SCOPE. WE JUST WANT THEM TO -- TO TREAT US RIGHT. WE'RE HUMANS. WE'RE DOING A SERVICE FOR THEM. I DON'T KNOW HOW TO EXPLAIN IT. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: I JUST HAD ANOTHER QUESTION ABOUT HOW ARE THOSE FOLKS HOLDING THE BUSES HOSTAGE? >> ONE OF THE SUN VAN BUSES PULLED INTO DALLAS OR ARIZONA SOMEWHERE IN THAT AREA, AND BECAUSE SHE WOULD NOT ALLOW THEM ON THE BUS BECAUSE THEY'RE HIGH ON FENTANYL OR DRUNK OR THEY HAVE FECES ON THEM OR THEY YURNATED ON THEMSELVES, WE DON'T ALLOW THEM ON THE BUSES WHEN THEY'RE LIKE THAT. SO THEY BARRICADED HER. SHE SAT IN HER BUS CALLING FOR SERVICE AND TRANSIT POLICE, AND APD THERE TO HELP HER. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: WOW. THE LAST QUESTION I HAVE IS ARE THE BUS DRIVERS, IF YOU'RE IN A BUS AND SOMEBODY WALKS IN AND EXHALES, ARE YOU REPORTING THAT AND HOW IS THE TRANSIT DEPARTMENT HANDLING THAT? >> IT GOES REPORTED. EVERYTHING IS REPORTED. MY ASSAULT, I CALLED FOR HELP. I NEVER MADE A POLICE REPORT. AND THAT WAS NOT BY MY CHOICE. APD WAS NEVER DISPATCHED. MY SUPERVISOR TOOK HER REPORT. THE REPORTS ARE IN HOUSE. OUR SUPERVISOR ARE MAKING THE REPORT AND DOCUMENTING IT THAT WAY. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THAT COULD STILL BE CONSIDERED AN ASSAULT, BASICALLY, IF THEY'RE EXHALING RIGHT IN YOUR FACE. >> I HAD A PASSENGER WAITING AT THE BUS STOP, AN ELDERLY MAN IN A WALKER, AND HE'S STANDING THERE DOING THIS. AND SHE'S IT'S FENTANYL. THEY BLEW THE SMOKE. WE HAD TO CALL RESCUE FOR HIM. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THAT WAS AN INCIDENT CITIZEN? >> YES, SECONDHAND SMOKE. >>COUN. BASSAN: MY APOLOGIES. COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. I MIGHT HAVE MISSED AT THE BEGINNING. YOU SAID YOU'RE HERE REPRESENTING THE BUS DRIVERS? ARE YOU WITH THE UNION? >> NO. I AM A UNION MEMBER. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YOU'RE REPRESENTING BUS DRIVERS? ARE YOU REPRESENTING A GROUP OF BUS DRIVERS? HAVE YOU HAD SOME SORT OF MEETING WITH THE UNION? >> NO. I CAME BECAUSE NOTHING IS BEING DONE. I WAS NOT BEING HEARD. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. I KNOW HOW SCARY IT IS TO COME AND SPEAK ON BEHALF OF WHAT YOUR EXPERIENCING AS AN EMPLOYEE. I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT. I HAVE TO NAME THAT. IT'S EXTREMELY HARD TO STAND UP FOR FEAR OF LOTS OF THINGS. I THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT. THIS IS EXACTLY WHY I BROUGHT UP THE QUESTION ON SECURITY REPORT. I DON'T WANT A HE SAID, SHE SAID ISSUE. THAT'S RIGHT NOW WHAT WE HAVE. I THINK HAVING SOME EXPERIENCE WITH A DRIVER THAT I REFERRED TO WORK AT THE CITY HAVING SOME EXPERIENCES YOU TALKED ABOUT. THAT'S WHEN WE HAVE TO HAVE THE DATA. WE DON'T WANT TO -- WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL WITH OUR PERCEPTIONS. OF WHAT YOU'RE DEALING WITH AND ALSO WHAT THE DRIVER OF THAT IS. WHETHER IT'S FREE FARES OR NOT, FENTANYL HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH FREE FARES. WHETHER PEOPLE ARE USING IT FOR TRANSPORTATION TO GO GET OR SELL IT, THAT'S A DIFFERENT CONVERSATION. FREE FARES ISN'T GOING TO FIX. WE KNOW NATIONALLY THE MOST DANGEROUS PART FOR A DRIVER IS DURING FARE COLLECTION. THAT'S JUST -- I THINK THAT WAS THE EMPHASIS FOR THIS CHANGE WAS NATIONALLY THAT'S WHAT REALLY PUTS DRIVERS AT RISK IN THE HIGHEST RATE IS COLLECTING FARES. I FEEL LIKE THIS IS -- THIS IS SOMETHING I ASKED THE ADMINISTRATION ABOUT, ESPECIALLY IN MY DISTRICT, NOT SEEING A PRESENCE OF TRANSIT POLICE. AND THE RESPONSE I GOT BACK IS WE HAD A LOT OF TURNOVER IN TRANSIT POLICE THAT HAS CAUSED THAT. I THINK THE OTHER THING IS WE TALKED -- I TALKED TO THE ADMINISTRATION ABOUT VIOLENCE INTERPRETERS ON OUR BUSES. THINGS THAT HAVE OUTCOMES IN OTHER CITIES SO YOU AS A BUS DRIVER CAN FOCUS ON DRIVING THE BUS AND NOT ALL THE OTHER SOCIAL ISSUES YOU'RE HAVING TO HANDLE ON THE BUS. I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS WITH OUR FRIENDS. I KNOW ACS CAN'T SAVE THE WORLD, BUT THIS IS PART OF THE MODEL OF COMMUNITY SAFETY IN OTHER CITIES WHERE THEY HAVE VIOLENCE INTERPRETERS ON THE BUS. I KNOW TRANSIT IS HELPING WITH THE AMBASSADOR PROGRAM THAT THEY'RE LAUNCHING. THAT WILL PUT PEOPLE ON THE BUS TO HELP WITH SOME OF THOSE THINGS FOR YOU. I'M INTERESTED IN TALKING WITH YOU OFFLINE ABOUT SOLUTIONS THAT YOU THINK WOULD HELP. BECAUSE WHAT I KNOW OF US IS WE WANT THE SOLUTIONS IN ADDITION TO HEARING WHAT YOU'RE DEALING WITH. I'M SURE THE MOTOR COACH OFFERATERS HAVE A LOT OF SOLUTIONS. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. I KNOW IT'S HARD TO DO THAT. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU GET WITH OUR OFFICE AS WELL. I JUST SOMETIMES REALLY WORRY ABOUT ANY TYPE OF RETALIATION. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN. STAY IN CONTACT WITH ME PLEASE. >> ABSOLUTELY. >> THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. UP NEXT WE HAVE ILSA FOLLOWED BY LEX. >> GOOD EVENING. I'M SHARING A VIDEO I RECEIVED FROM THE COMMUNITY MEMBER THAT WAS POSTED ON FACEBOOK OF THE SOLID WASTE WORKING PLACING A GUITAR HE FOUND IN THE CAB OF HIS DUMP TRUCK. HE EXPLAINED THE CITY STARTED COLLECTING VALUABLE ITEMS TO PLACE IN SAFEKEEPING FOR THE HOMELESS TO COLLECT. I INQUIRED WHY THIS POLICY HAS NOT PUBLIC INPUT OF PUBLIC POLICY. ALL THE CITIZENS ARE TO DO IS CALL 311 AND PROVIDE A DESCRIPTION AND SOLID WASTE WILL VERIFY OWNERSHIP AND COORDINATE PICK UP. THIS IS UNREALISTIC. SHE WAS INFORMED THE SAME DAY THE GUITAR HAD BEEN TAKEN. AND HAS BEEN WORKING CLOSELY WITH SOLID WASTE TO DEVELOP A CONSISTENT AND ACCOUNTABLE PROCESS FOR HANDLING UNATTENDED BELONGINGS. ONE OF THE MY CONCERNS, DAVID SAID HE STARTED WORKING ON LEGISLATION POLICY AT THAT TIME APRIL MEETING. THE GUITAR HAS BEEN TAKE TOON STORAGE. WHAT HAS BEEN DONE TO MAKE CONTACT WITH THE OWNER. HOW LONG WILL SOLID WASTE KEEP THE GUITAR IN STORAGE? WE DETERMINE -- WHO DETERMINES WHICH POSSESSIONS ARE VALUABLE? I CAN'T UNDERSTAND HOW THIS CAN BE IMPLEMENTED WITHOUT A SEPARATELY THOUGHT THROUGH -- PERHAPS THEY SHOULD CALL 311 AND DESCRIBE THE VALUABLE JUST IN CASE THOSE ITEMS ALSO MADE IT INTO SAFE KEEP AT THE STORAGE FACILITY. THANK YOU. >> LEX FOLLOWED BY BRICK. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCIL MEMBERS, I I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW I COULD IMPRESS UPON YOUR FOLKS HOW IMPORTANT IT IS THAT PEOPLE THAT HAVE THE ABILITY TO FIGHT FOR THEMSELVES AND WHEN I SAY FIGHT, I DON'T MEAN IT IN A PHYSICAL SENSE, I MEAN IT AS LEGAL SENSE, YOU FOLKS ARE GOING TO FIND OUT VERY SOON THAT WHEN YOU ARE HAVING AN ONSLAUGHT OF FEDERAL CIVIL LAWSUITS FILED AGAINST YOUR CITY, YOU'RE NO LONGER GOING TO BE ABLE TO SAY IT'S JUST A COST OF DOING BUSINESS. I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH MORE I CAN IMPRESS UPON YOU. I DON'T WANT TO BE THE DEVIL'S ADVOCATE AND SAY IF WHAT I UNCOVERED AND TRUE AND I MADE THE COUNCIL AWARE OF IT FOR OVER THREE MONTHS, INCLUDING THE CHIEF OF POLICE IN ALBUQUERQUE, IS NOT SIGNING THEIR OATH OF OFFICE AS DESCRIBED BY NOT ONLY NEW MEXICO STATE STATUTE, BUT BY FEDERAL CODE. WHAT THAT MEANS IS ANY ACTION TAKEN BY THESE POLICE THAT HAVEN'T SIGNED THEIR OATH CAN BE CONSIDERED NULL AND VOID IF THE PERSON WISHES TO FIGHT IT IN THAT AVENUE. I WAS LOOKING FORWARD TO HAVING A LOT OF CAREER CRIMINALS THAT ARE TRULY COMMITTING CRIMES TO BE RELEASED. LIKE WHAT HAPPENED IN THE DUI SCANDAL. I'M NOT GOING TO SUGAR COAT IT. I NEED TO TELL YOU ABOUT IT. IF I TELL YOU ABOUT IT THREE MONTHS AGO, THANK YOU. >> BRICK FOLLOWED BY TAD. >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILORS. THAT OATH OF OFFICE, MAN. YOU ARE ELECTED OFFICIALS. APPOINTED OFFICIALS ARE ACTUALLY REQUIRED TO SIGN IT AS WELL. CHIEF MEDINA SAYS HE DOESN'T HAVE TO. YEAH, I READ THE STATUTE. IF IT FINDS ITS WAY INTO THE COURT, IT'S GOING TO BE CALLED UNCONSTITUTIONAL. IF THAT'S THE CASE. IF THAT'S WHAT HE'S GOING BY, BESIDES, WHAT CONSCIENTIOUS SCRUPLES WOULD ANYBODY IN AN ELECTED POSITION OR AN APPOINTED POSITION OF OFFICE HAVE AGAINST LOYALTY TO THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES, UPHOLDING AND DEFENDING OUR RIGHTS? WHAT CONSCIENTIOUS SCRUPLES WOULD ANY INDIVIDUAL IN ANY OF THOSE POSITIONS HAVE AGAINST THE CONSTITUTION OF NEW MEXICO IN UPHOLDING AND DEFENDING THOSE RIGHTS? YEAH, I READ IT. I'VE READ IT. I KNOW IT. IT'S UNCONSTITUTIONAL ON ITS FACE. YOU CAN'T SAY YOU HAVE CONSCIENTIOUS SCRUPLES AND WALK AROUND WITH A FIREARM READY TO TAKE SOMEBODY'S LIFE AND YOU HAVE A BADGE ON. CLAIMING YOU THE LEGAL AND LAWFUL DUTY. THAT'S NOT CONSCIENTIOUS SCRUPLES, THAT'S A GANG. A BLUE LINE GANG. YOU WANT TO BE PART OF THAT? ITAINT -- IT AIN'T GOING TO WORK OUT WELL FOR YOU. YOU HAVE AMERICANS WILLING TO DEFEND OUR RIGHTS. >> TAD FOLLOWED BY THOMAS. >> THANK YOU. WELL, EVERY COP HAS GOOD COP -- BUT NOT ALL COPS ARE BAD COPS. WHAT HAPPENED AFTER THAT MEETING LAST TIME? THE COP PULLED ME OVER AFTER SIX MONTHS SHE SHOW COMPASSION. INSTEAD OF WRITING. SO, I'M LUCKY TO ONLY WARN ME. I KNOW YOUR DAD FROM THE COUNCIL MEETING. THAT MEANS I'M DOING SOMETHING FOR SOMEBODY. SOMEBODY APPRECIATE. THAT'S ALL. A VERBAL WARNING. NOW, LOOK AT HERE. A CONSENT AGENDA. A B C I J F D. HIDING FROM THE PUBLIC. ON THE AGENDA. MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF MONEY BEING SHIFTED. YOU ARE SUCH CROOKED DOING THAT. DISHONEST. I'M SORRY. YOU GOING TO GO TO BIG DANCE. I'M NOT GOING TO KEEP UP WITH YOU. AND THE TIME COMING -- >> THOMAS FOLLOWED BY ALEXENDRA ON ZOOM. >> I JUST WANTED TO DO SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE DON'T REALLY DO, WHICH IS SAY THANK YOU. A COUPLE DAYS AGO MY LANDLORD BROUGHT OVER AN AC UNIT AND INSTALLED IT FOR ME. YOU GUYS PASSED THAT. I GOT TO SLEEP IN A COOL 69 DEGREES. THANK YOU, GUYS. YOU PASSED SOMETHING THAT HELPED ME OUT. I'M THANKFUL FOR THAT. I ASKED A QUESTION THAT I STILL DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER TO. COUNCIL PRESIDENT, I DON'T KNOW, AMONG YOU GUYS, WHO OWNS PROPERTY AND WHO DOESN'T. IF I WANTED TO FIND THAT OUT, HOW WOULD I GO ABOUT THAT? >>COUN. BASSAN: IF YOU SEND ME AN EMAIL, I'LL ANSWER THAT. THIS IS NOT A Q&A FOR US. >> FAIR ENOUGH. I DID GET A LIST. UNFORTUNATELY, IT'S REALLY HARD INFORMATION TO FIND. I CAN ONLY IMAGINE HOW HARD IT IS FOR OTHER PEOPLE. FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND -- I CAN'T VERIFY IT. AS FAR AS I'M AWARE, I THINK COUNCILOR BASSAN, COUNCILOR BACA, COUNCILOR LEWIS, COUNCILOR PEÑA, AND COUNCILOR GROUT ALL OWN THEIR APARTMENTS OR HOUSING OF SOME KIND. WOULD ANY OF YOU BE WILLING TO BE TRANSPARENT AND OPEN ABOUT THAT? >>COUN. BASSAN: THIS IS NOT A Q&A SIR. >> THANK YOU. >> ALEXANDRA FOLLOWED BY VIVEK. >> HELLO. I AM THE DIRECTOR FOR THE NEW MEXICO COALITION TO END HOMELESSNESS. I'M HERE TO URGE YOUR SUPPORT THE VETO OF THE PROPOSED CUT TO THE RESOURCE LINE. THIS HELP LINE IS NOT JUST A PHONE NUMBER, IT'S A CRITICAL RESOURCE IN ACCESS POINT FOR PEOPLE IN A CRISIS EVERY MONTH. IT CONNECTS INDIVIDUALS AND FAMILIES TO RESOURCES INCLUDING MENTAL HEALTH, SHELTER, AND HOUSING. THIS IS CRITICAL NOT ONLY TO ALBUQUERQUE RESIDENTS BUT TO THOSE IN SMALL AND RURAL AREAS WHERE SERVICES ARE SCARCE OR NONEXISTENT. CUTTING THE SERVICE WILL JEOPARDIZE THE COMPLIANCE WITH HUD'S CONTINUUM OF CARE REQUIREMENTS. SINCE THE LAUNCH FOUR YEARS AGO, WE WORKED FOR STREAMLINE INFORMATION FOR ACCESSING SERVICES AND EFFORTS ACROSS PROVIDERS AND EASE THE BIRD ON INDIVIDUALS IN CRISIS. THIS ISN'T A BUDGET CUT, IT'S A SETBACK WE CANNOT AFFORD. PLEASE PRESERVE THE FUNDING FOR 768-HELP. THANK YOU. >> VIVEK FOLLOWED BY ANALIE. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCIL MEMBERS, THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK. I'M THE STATE COORDINATOR FOR NONPROFIT CALLED THE ART SERVICE FOUNDATION. -- HUMANITARIAN AND SPIRITUAL LEADER AND AMBASSADOR OF PEACE. THIS PROGRAM IMPACTED HALF A BILLION PEOPLE IN OVER 180 COUNTRIES. THIS INCLUDES THE PRISON PROGRAM WHICH REDUCES RECIDIVISM AND IMPACTS OVER 800,000 INMATES. WELCOME HOME TROOPS PROGRAM WHICH HELPS DEALING WITH PTSD. IT REDUCES BEHAVIOR INCIDENTS IN SCHOOLS AND IMPROVED LEARNING OUTCOMES FOR AT RISK YOUTH. WE RECENTLY, A FEW YEARS AGO, HELPED RESOLVE A 52-YEAR-OLD CIVIL WAR BETWEEN REBAL AND THE CLUMBYIAN GOVERNMENT. WE HAD PEOPLE AT THE NATIONAL MALL AT D.C. I'M HERE TO SHARE THE NEWS THAT GOOD DAY WILL VISIT ALBUQUERQUE ON JULY 7th, THE FIRST VISIT IN ALMOST 30 YEARS. THERE WILL BE AN EVENT JOURNEY WHICH WILL BE OPENED TO THE PUBLIC. AND THE DETAILS ARE ON THE WEBSITE. FROM HEADS OF STATE TO PRISON INMATES, TO RULERS AND FARMERS, PEOPLE FROM ALL WORKS OF LIFE AROUND THE WORLD SPEAKS WITH THIS COUNCIL. IT IS MY SINCERE WISH TO BRING LEADERS IN THE COMMUNITY, RELIGIOUS LEADERS, CITY LEADERS, NONPROFIT LEADERS TO MEET WITH THEM IN A PRIVATE SETTING TO LEARN FROM HIS EXPERIENCE AND COME UP WITH LOCAL SOLUTIONS THAT HAVE A LASTING IMPACT FOR SOME OF OUR MOST PRESSING ISSUES. AND SEEKING THE COUNCIL'S GUIDANCE IN THIS ENDEAVOR. >> ANALIE, CAN YOU ACCEPT PROMOTION TO PANELIST? FOLLOWED BY RUDOLPH. PLEASE PROCEED. WE'RE HAVING TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES. WE'LL GO TO RUDOLPH. RUDOLPH, PLEASE PROCEED. >> OKAY. COUNCILOR BASSAN, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, GOOD TO SEE YOU. LAST TIME I WAS THERE, I WAS THINKING OF RUNNING FOR MAYOR. BUT MY FAMILY ASKED ME NOT TO. IT'S REALLY BIG HOW WE GET INTO THESE POLITICAL WARS RIGHT NOW. I DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO BACK UP ANY OLIGARCH I'LL GO AGAINST. WE'RE STARTING TO MAKE AN OLIGARCH. WE HAVE A QUARTER OF BILLIONS TO MAKE THAT HOTEL IN OLD TOWN AFTER WE GAVE $85 MILLION, WE'RE JUST GOING TO MAKE AN OLIGARCH THAT DOESN'T LIKE PEOPLE THAT ARE CONSERVATIVE. I SEE THAT IS A NO-NO. I DIDN'T SEE IT ON THE TABLE, BUT I SAW IT ON THE NEWS. THAT JUST CLICKED MY HEART TO COME BACK AND SAY WE CANNOT DO THAT. WE HAVE TO STOP DOING THAT. GOOD LOOK FOR THE MAYOR'S THAT WANT TO BE. I DON'T KNOW WHO IS GOING TO BE. I HOPE SOMEBODY WINS ON THIS COUNCIL. COUNCILOR LEWIS, YOU GET MY BLESSING. YOU'RE SOMEBODY EVERYBODY KNOWS. I WOULD LOVE TO SEE A MAYOR COME FROM THIS COUNCIL. I WOULD LOVE TO SEE DOING SOMETHING AGAINST WHAT IS HAPPENING IN THIS CITY. WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT BELIEVE IN CASTRATION OF CHILDREN. WE ARE ACTUALLY CELEBRATING CHILD CASTRATION THIS MONTH. I AM GOING TO PROTEST, OF COURSE, THE LGBT COMMUNITY. THE AGENDA IS AGAINST CHILDREN. AND I WILL DEFEND FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE AGAINST IT. I WANT TO SEE ONE OF THE MAYORER'S CANDIDATES COME UP -- JUST LIKE THEY COME UP TO GO AGAINST THESE GUYS. THAT'S IMPORTANT. THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR OUR CITY. THE OTHER THING IS I GOT A COMPANION. I WANTED TO GIVE APD CON SOLATION FOR LOSING THEIR DOG. I OFFERED, THERE'S SOMETHING WE CAN DO. THAT'S SOMETHING I'LL GIVE. THANK YOU. >> WE'LL GO TO DON AND TRY BACK AND ANALIE. >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL MEMBERS. I AM THE SOCIAL SERVICES CARE COORDINATOR WITH ALBUQUERQUE COMMUNITY SAFETY AND VIOLENCE INTERVENTION PROGRAM. I'VE BEEN HERE A LITTLE OVER THREE YEARS, LONGER THAN ANYONE ELSE IN THE DEPARTMENT. I AM HERE TODAY TO ASK FOR YOUR ASSISTANCE WITH SOME SERIOUS CONCERNS REGARDING DISCRIMINATION RETALIATION AND TOXIC WORK ENVIRONMENT THAT I HAVE BEEN SUBJECTED TO. PRIOR TO LATE MARCH OF THIS YEAR, I WAS TOLD THAT I WAS GOING TO BE GETTING PULLED OUT OF THE FIELD DOING PEER SUPPORT WORK. MY TIME WITH THE VIOLENCE INTERVENTION PROGRAM -- AND AFTER FILING MY COMPLAINT AGAINST A COLLEAGUE ON WHAT I CONSIDER TO BE UNETHICAL BEHAVIOR TOWARD ME, WHEN I RETURNED, I WAS TOLD THAT MY ASSIGNMENT WAS TO BE PRIMARILY GEAR SUPPORT. I WAS NO LONGER GOING TO BE DOING DUTIES AS SOCIAL SERVICES CHAIR COORDINATOR. SINCE I RETURNED, I HAVE ONLY BEEN PUT ON THE SCHEDULE ONE DAY A WEEK. AND THE REST OF THE WEEK I'M ON STANDBY, WHERE MY MALE COLLEAGUES ARE FULLY UTILIZED. I'M THE ONLY WOMAN IN THE VIOLENCE INTERVENTION PROGRAM. BEING STRIPPED OF MY RESPONSIBILITIES AND EXCLUDED FEELS LIKE RETALIATION. WHILE SITTING IN THE OFFICE THE MAJORITY OF THE WEEK, I'M EXPOSED TO INAPPROPRIATE AND UNETHICAL CONVERSATIONS. TOPICS THAT NO EMPLOYEE SHOULD BE FORCED TO HEAR IN ANY WORKPLACE. I HAVE REPORTED SEVERAL OF THESE ISSUES OVER THE YEARS TO LEADERSHIP AND TO HR, BUT MY CONCERNS HAVE NOT BEEN TAKEN SERIOUSLY. THINGS HAVE JUST CHANGED FOR THE WORSE. THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE. I AM HERE TODAY BECAUSE I REFUSE TO STAY SILENT. I AM ASKING THIS COUNCIL TO PLEASE INVESTIGATE THESE MATTERS, TO HOLD LEADERSHIP ACCOUNTABLE, AND HELP ENSURE ALL CITY EMPLOYEES REGARDLESS OF GENDER ARE TREATED WITH FAIRNESS, DIGNITY, AND RESPECT. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU. >> I WANT TO GIVE YOU THE AUDIOS TO GIVE YOU UNDERSTANDING OF THE TOXIC AND UNETHICAL. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU. YOUR TIME IS UP, MA'AM. THANK YOU. >> WE'RE GOING TO TRY ANALI ONE MORE TIME. CAN YOU UNMUTE? CAN YOU SAY A FEW WORDS? WE'RE NOT ABLE TO HEAR YOU. I APOLOGIZE. THERE'S SOME TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES. THAT DOES CONCLUDE GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU. MOVING TO FINAL ACTIONS. COUNCILOR LEWIS, O-78. >>COUN. LEWIS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. O-78 IS ADOPTING A NEW PART THREE CHAPTER NINE REVISED ORDINANCES TO BE KNOWN AS THE INTOXICATING HEMP PRODUCT ORDINANCE. I MOVE DO PASS. >>COUN. BASSAN: THERE'S A MOTION AND SECOND BY COUNCILOR BACA. COUNCILOR LEWIS TO OPEN. >>COUN. LEWIS: MADAM PRESIDENT, THANK YOU. THIS BILL HAS BEEN IN COMMITTEE AND HAS HAD SEVERAL AMENDMENTS, MOSTLY TECHNICAL AMENDMENTS TO IT. SPECIFICALLY, REGARDING INTOXICATING HEMP ON A PRODUCT THAT LARRY BARKER EXPLAINED A FEW MONTHS AGO OF EXPLAINING THE PRODUCT SOLD AROUND ALBUQUERQUE. IT'S REALLY MARKETED FOR CHILDREN. IT'S PUT IN PACKAGES. IT'S A SYNTHETIC PRODUCT THAT OFTENTIMES HAS A THC LEVEL THAT YOU FIND IN OTHER MARIJUANA PRODUCTS REGULATED BY THE STATE. THIS IS A PRODUCT THAT'S NOT REGULATED BY THE STATE. AND IT'S REALLY POISON THAT'S BEING SOLD TO CHILDREN. SO, AT SOME POINT, I THINK THE STATE WANTED TO REGULATE THIS. IT WOULD FALL UNDER THOSE CATEGORIES. RIGHT NOW, THAT'S NOT THE CASE. IT ALLOWS FOR A LOOPHOLE TO BE ABLE TO SELL A PRODUCT THAT'S SPECIFICALLY TARGETED TOWARD CHILDREN. IT CAME FROM THE INDUSTRIES, FROM CONSTITUENTS, AND PEOPLE SAID THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT THIS AND LOOK AT A WAY WE CAN BE ABLE TO REALLY ADDRESS THE PROBLEMS WITHOUT INTERFERING WITH OTHER PARTS OF THE INDUSTRY IN THAT REGARD. SO, MR. MORROW CAN FILL IN SOME OF THE DETAILS. AS WELL AS APD IS HERE. I SPENT SOME TIME WITH THE CHIEF TALKING ABOUT ENFORCEMENT. I THINK THEY WOULD BE WILLING TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE REGARDING ENFORCEMENT AS WELL AS ADMINISTRATION WOULD RESPOND TO SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS AS WELL. THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR LEWIS, WE'RE GOING TO GET TO PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE BILL AND WE WILL GO TO DISCUSSION. >> THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. FIRST UP IS ANAMI FOLLOWED BY JEFF. >> VICE PRESIDENT, I WAS AT THE MEETING WHERE THIS WAS DISCUSSED. I DIDN'T SHOW UP IN TIME TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT. I FIGURED I MIGHT BE ABLE TO HELP WITH SOME OF THE CONFUSION THAT CAME UP DURING THE MEETING. I SHOULD ALSO MENTION THAT I HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THE DRAFTING OF THIS LEGISLATION. THE THING ABOUT DRUG POLICY IS THAT IT CAN BE POORLY DONE WHERE -- ESSENTIALLY, IF YOU TRY TO CLAMP DOWN ON DRUGS IN A CERTAIN WAY, IT'S LIKE TRYING TO GRAB A FISTFUL OF WATER. IT'S GOING TO GO EVERYWHERE AND NOT DO ANYTHING AND MAKE A BIGGER MESS. ONE EXAMPLE OF THAT IS HOW WE ENDED UP WITH A FENTANYL CRISIS INSTEAD OF THE HEROIN CRISIS. AND A LIGHTER EXAMPLE OF THAT, WHICH IS MORE ANALOGOUS TO WHAT'S BEING ADDRESSED IN THIS BILL IS -- LIKE TEN YEARS AGO, THERE WAS A POPULAR MOVEMENT OF RESEARCH CHEMICALS BEING USED AS RECREATIONAL DRUGS. FOR INSTANCE, I WAS LOOKING FOR MAGIC MUSHROOMS WHICH IS A DRUG THAT THE EFFECTS ARE WELL DOCUMENTED AND FOR THE MOST PART IT CAN BE DONE SAFELY. I COULDN'T FIND MAGIC MUSHROOMS BECAUSE I WAS IN DALLAS AND I WAS A CHILD. SO I FOUND SOMETHING CALLED 4ACODMT, WHICH IS VERY STRONG DMT. AFTER ABOUT FOUR HOURS. THIS LEGISLATION WOULD PREVENT RESEARCH CHEMICALS FROM BEING THE ONLY OPTION THAT'S AN ALTERNATIVE TO SOMEONE LOOKING TO USE DRUGS. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. >> JEFF FOLLOWED BY ALAN. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCILOR BASSAN COUNCIL. FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME BE HERE TONIGHT. I APOLOGIZE FOR ALL THE TEXT MESSAGES AND PHONE CALLS YOU GOT TODAY FROM ME BECAUSE I WAS GOING TO SPEAK ON O-25. I'M A BIG BELIEVER. I BELIEVE THE HEMP AND CANNABIS CAN WORK TOGETHER FOR THE GREATER GOOD OF THE CONSUMERER. THIS ISSUE WAS ADDRESSED BY BOTH PARTIES DURING THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION. AND THE CONSENSUS WAS, LET'S PUT PAUSE ON IT AND LET CONGRESS UPDATE THE FEDERAL FARM BILL FROM 2018. THAT BILL IS EXPECTED TO ADDRESS THESE CONCERNS TODAY, SPECIFICALLY WITH SYNTHETICS ON DELTA 8 AND 9. IT'S BEEN -- I'VE HAD DIRECT CONVERSATIONS WITH BEN RAY LUJAN TO TALK ABOUT THIS. HE SITS ON THE AG COMMITTEE. WE SHOULD SEE DIRECTION FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT COME FROM THE FOURTH QUARTER. IN 2019, WE WORKED WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENT TO CREATE THE STATE REGULATIONS AND GUIDELINES FROM THE FARM BILL WE TALKED ABOUT. I THINK WE ALL AGREE THAT SYNTHETICS IS PART OF THE PRODUCTS, BUT WE ALL AGREE IT SHOULD BE REGULATED. IT SHOULD BE RESTRICTED TO 21 AND OVER AND KEPT OUT OF THE HANDS OF TEENS. TODAY THIS PRODUCT IS SOLD IN NEW MEXICO AND IS CERTIFIED BY THIRD PARTY TESTS ALREADY. MY CONCERN IS THE WAY THE BILL IS WRITTEN IS YOU'RE CRIMINALIZING THE CONSUMER OF NEW MEXICO, SPECIFICALLY PEOPLE LIKE MY MOTHER, WHO USES THIS PRODUCT FOR PAIN AND STUFF LIKE THAT. I ASK YOU TO PUT A HOLD ON THIS BECAUSE YOU'RE PASSING ON $2.4 MILLION OF REVENUE AND CREAING A BLACK MARKET. I ASK YOU TO DEFER IT AND PUT IT ON HOLD UNTIL WE SEE WHAT HAPPENS AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL BECAUSE WE'RE WORKING WITH STATE LEGISLATORS RIGHT NOW TO FINALIZE THIS AND CREATE STATE REGULATIONS ON THIS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> ALAN FOLLOWED BY BARBARA. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, THIS BILL ATTEMPTS TO SOLVE A PROBLEM THAT DOESN'T EXIST. A SIMILAR BILL WAS REJECTED IN THE STATE HOUSE JUST MONTHS AGO. MEANWHILE, THE 2018 FARM BILL IS BEING REWRITTEN TO -- AND IS EXPECTED IN OCTOBER. IT MAKES SENSE TO WAIT UNTIL THE NEW BILL COMES THROUGH. AND WE HAVE NEW REGULATIONS FROM THE STATE, RATHER THAN PASSING BILL THAT WILL BECOME OBABSOLUTE IN MINE MONTHS. IF HEMP PRODUCTS ARE HARMING CHILDREN, WHERE ARE THE PARENTS TELLING US THOSE STORIES? WE'RE A HIGHLY REGULATED INDUSTRY. WE HAVE FEDERAL REGULATIONS FROM THE HEMP ACT AND FROM THE STATE THAT WE HAVE TO FOLLOW. NOT UNREGULATED. EVERYTHING GETS THIRD PARTY TESTED. EVERYTHING IS -- WE ARE A MANUFACTURER. WE'VE NEVER HAD A COMPLAINT OR ILLNESS. AND THEY'RE MAKING UP THIS STORY. IT'S ALL COMING FROM THE MARIJUANA INDUSTRY TRYING TO STOP HEMP FORWARD. ALSO, JUST -- MANY LOCAL SMOKE SHOPS ARE SMALL FAMILY-OWNED BUSINESSES. THIS BILL TAKES AWAY PRODUCTS. I APOLOGIZE. WITH RISING TARIFFS FROM CHINA, WHERE 90% OF THE PRODUCTS COME FROM, MANY WILL NOT SURVIVE CAUSING VACANCIES AND LOSS OF REVENUE. ALBUQUERQUE WITH CBN GUMMIES IN YOUR LUGGAGE FOR SLEEP CAN FACE A $500 FINE AND 90 DAYS IN JAIL IF THEIR BAGGAGE IS SEARCHED. THIS -- I URGE YOU TO VOLT VOTE NO. >> BARBARA FOLLOWED BY JEFFREY. >> THANK YOU. MADAM PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, I AM PART OF A LICENSED REGULATED HEMP MANUFACTURING COMPANY HERE IN ALBUQUERQUE. I'M HERE TODAY TO SPEAK AGAINST THIS BILL TO BAN HEMP-DERIVED PRODUCTS. PUBLIC SAFETY IS NOT WHAT'S DRIVING THIS BILL. IT'S PROFIT. THIS BILL IS BEING PUSHED BY MULTI-MILLION DOLLAR CANNABIS CORP RAYINGS THAT WANT TO ELIMINATE THE COMPETITION. IT'S BUILT ON FEAR AND MISINFORMATION, NOT SCIENCE. OUR COMPANY WORKS HARD TO PRODUCE SAFE, HIGH-QUALITY HEMP PRODUCTS. WE FOLLOW STRICT REGULATIONS. AND COMPLY WITH STATE GUIDELINES. WE OPPOSE A GROWING INDUSTRY THAT CREATES JOBS AND CONTRIBUTES TO THE LOCAL ECONOMY. BANNING THESE PRODUCTS FOR SMALL BUSINESSES TO SHUT DOWN. IT WOULD IMPACT NOT JUST US BUT THE SUPPLIERS, DISTRIBUTORS AND EMPLOYEES CONNECTED TO THIS INDUSTRY. THAT'S LOT OF PEOPLE OUT OF WORK IN A CITY THAT ALREADY FACES ECONOMIC CHALLENGES. BANNING HEMP DEDRIVED PRODUCTS WILL DRIVE IT UNDERGROUND OR NEIGHBORING CITIES. OUR POLICE FORCE IS ALREADY STRETCHED THIN. IS ENFORCING A HEMP BAN WHERE OUR RESOURCES SHOULD GO? NOT EVERYONE WANTS OR CAN TOLERATE HIGH POTENCY CANNABIS. THIS OFFERS A GENTLER ALTERNATIVE. INSTEAD OFBENNING, LET'S WORK TOGETHER TO HAVE CLEAR STANDARDS FOR SAFETY, LABELLING AND TESTING. THERE'S ROOM FOR CANNABIS AND HEMP TO EXIST. THIS BILL PICKS WINNERS AND LOSERS AND IT'S THE BIG CANNABIS CORPORATIONS WHO WIN. LET'S PROTECT SMALL BUSINESSES, PRESERVE JOBS, AND RESPECT THE RIGHT OF INDIVIDUAL CHOICE. PLEASE VOTE NO ON THIS BILL AND KEEP THE HEMP INDUSTRY ALIVE IN ALBUQUERQUE. >> JEFFREY FOLLOWED BY IAN. >> GOOD EVENING, MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCIL MEMBERS. BANNING HEMP PRODUCTS LIKE DELTA 8 WILL NOT ELIMINATE ACCESS. IT WILL DRIVE CUSTOMERS TO CITY LIMITS OR UNREGULATED OUT OF STATE ONLINE SELLERS THAT CONTRIBUTE NOTHING TO OUR LOCAL ECONOMY. MEANWHILE, BUSINESSES LIKE MINE WHO FOLLOW ALL STATE AND FEDERAL HEMP LAWS SOURCED ONLY THE SAFEST HEMP EXTRACTS FROM GMP CERTIFIED LABS THAT COST MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO ENGINEER AND OPERATE. WHO WE TEST EVERY SINGLE PRODUCT AND IS CERTIFIED AND TESTED. AND WE PAY TAXES. WE'RE BEING TARGETED AS IF WE'RE THE PROBLEM. THIS ORDINANCE OFFERS NO PATH FOR COMPLIANCE FOR RESPONSIBLE BUSINESSES OR MANUFACTURERS LIKE US. ONLY PENALTIES. THIS IS PROHIBITION DISGUISED AS REGULATION. IT WILL NOT WORK. HISTORY SHOWS US THAT THIS LEADS TO SHUTTERED STOREFRONTS, JOB LOSSES AND THRIVING BLACK MARKET THAT ANSWERS TO NO ONE. MANY CUSTOMERS, VETERANS, SENIORS AND PARENTS WITH CHILDREN WITH DISABILITY RELY ON THE PRODUCTS BECAUSE THEY CANNOT TOLERATE TRADITIONAL CANNABIS. THIS WILL LEAVE THEM BEHIND. IF THE GOAL IS PUBLIC SAFETY, REGULATE US. JUST BECAUSE IT'S SYNTHETIC DOESN'T MEAN IT'S DANGEROUS. PLEASE DON'T DESTROY A FEDERALLY LEGAL INDUSTRY WITH ONE VOTE. ESPECIALLY WHILE ALLOWING CANNABIS, WHICH ISN'T FEDERALLY LEGAL. ALBUQUERQUE HAS A CHOICE. YOU CAN LEAD WITH SMART POLICY, OR BE REMEMBERED FOR KILLING A SMALL BUSINESS INDUSTRY. PLEASE VOTE NO. >> IAN FOLLOWED BY KIM. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, DOES THIS PREVENT OUT OF STATE MANUFACTURES FROM SELLING TO ALBUQUERQUE? NO IT DOES NOT. DOES IT KEEP THE PRODUCTS OUT OF THE HANDS OF MINORS? NO. CAN THE CITY REALISTICALLY ENFORCE THIS ORDINANCE WITH THE LIMITED NUMBER OF AGENTS AVAILABLE? ABSOLUTELY NOT. ALL THIS ORDINANCE REALLY DOES IS FORCE LOCAL MANUFACTURERS AND BUSINESSES OPERATING IN COMPLIANCE WITH EXISTING REGULATIONS TO SHUT DOWN OR MOVE OUT OF ALBUQUERQUE. WE GIVE TAX REVENUE. THIS ORDINANCE DOES NOT IMPROVE LABELLING. IT DOESN'T MANDATE SAFER PACKAGING. IT DOESN'T PROTECT OUR KIDS IN ANY MEANINGFUL WAY. IT HELPS LAWFUL NEW MEXICO BUSINESSES WHILE DOING NOTHING. THANK YOU. >> KIM FOLLOWED BY CHARLES. >> COUNCILOR BASSAN, COUNCILORS, THANK YOU. I AM A LONGTIME MEMBER OF THE LOCAL BUSINESS COMMUNITY AND AN ENTREPRENEUR. I'M CEO OF SRE WELLNESS WHICH IS A LICENSED HEMP MANUFACTURER. THROUGH OUR OWN INTERNAL OPERATIONS AND MANUFACTURING PARTNERS WE SUPPORT ABOUT 50 JOBS IN ALBUQUERQUE. I SUPPORT THIS ORDINANCE AS REPORTED OUT OF COMMITTEE. I AGREE WITH THE FINDINGS IN THE ORDINANCES PROPOSED. IT IS A COMPLICATED SITUATION. BECAUSE 2018 FARM BILL DID NOT INTEND, FORMER CONGRESSIONAL STAFFER, I DON'T BELIEVE STUDYING THIS THAT ININTENT WAS TO UNLEASH INTOXICATING PRODUCTS INTO THE CHANNELS THEY'RE IN WHICH THIS ORDINANCE SPEAKS TO RESTRICT IN THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE. SO, I WALK WANTED TO VOICE MY SUPPORT AS THE MEMBER OF THE HEMP INDUSTRY IN ALBUQUERQUE. AND HAPPY TO PROVIDE ANY TECHNICAL EXPLANATION. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. I'LL KEEP IT SHORT AND SWEET. >> CHARLES FOLLOWED BY TAD. >> THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I'M ALSO PART OF THE HEMP AND CANNABIS INDUSTRY. HERE IN ALBUQUERQUE. I'M A CHEMIST BY TRAINING. I KNOW ABOUT THE TYPES OF CHEMICALS. ALSO IN SUPPORT OF THIS ORDINANCE AS WRITTEN. I THINK THAT HAVING UNDEFINED CHEMICALS IN THE MARKETPLACE WITH UNKNOWN SAFETY PROFILES IS A RISK NOT JUST TO CHILDREN BUT EVERYONE. YEAH, SHORT AND SWEET. I SUPPORT THIS BILL. >> TAD FOLLOWED BY SHAUN ON ZOOM. OKAY. I CAN HEAR BETTER NOW. FOR ONE THING, I AM 100% AGREE WHAT DAN IS DOING. WELL, I DON'T BELIEVE IT. I DON'T BELIEVE IT -- FOR MANY YEARS. ABOUT 15 YEARS AGO, NO DRUGS HELPED ME. WHAT HELPED ME? I JUST HAPPENED TO SUNDAY MORNING DRIVING AND LISTENING TO RELIGIOUS PROGRAM. AND TAKING SOME VITAMINS. I SAID, WHY DON'T I TRY IT? SURE ENOUGH, NOW IF I'M TIRED, I TAKE VITAMINS. AND THOSE THINGS GIVE ME ENERGY. MY BLOOD CIRCULATION AND SO ON. AND NO MORE HEADACHE. I NEVER HAD A HEADACHE IN 15 YEARS. ANYWAY. I'M LOOKING -- THIS IS BIG BUSINESS. WE ALL KNOW THAT. AND HE'S NOW SAD OF MARIJUANA. RUNNING FOR THE OFFICE TOO. -- ANYWAY. I -- ALL THERE'S NO SUCH THING MARIJUANA. THEY'RE SELLING ALL KINDS OF DRUG -- I SUGGEST YOU GO TO THE STORES. YOU GET IDEA. >> SHAUN FOLLOWED BY RUDOLPH. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILORS, THANK YOU FOR TAKING THIS. I'M AN INDUSTRY PROFESSIONAL IN HEMP CANNABIS FOR THE LAST SIX YEARS. THERE'S A LOT OF DEPTH TO THE REGULATIONS SURROUNDING HEMP AND CANNABIS. I APPRECIATE THOSE BEING HEARD AND EXPRESSED. I THINK THIS IS A GOOD STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION TO ALLOW REGULATION AND CREATE THE CONVERSATION. I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND I DO SUPPORT THE BILL. THANK YOU. >> REDAUFL. ? >> RUDOLPH. YOU'RE MUTED, RUDOLPH. >> MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, COUNCILOR BASSAN. AGAIN, I WAS NUMBER ON THIS 40 YEARS AGO. YOU KNOW, THE TH LEVELS 40 YEARS AGO WERE ALMOST LIKE HEMP TODAY. YOU GUYS ARE MAKING A BILLION DOLLARS. SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO CHANGE YOUR MIND. AND THERE'S NEW RESEARCH. THERE'S A NEW SCIENCE CALLED EPIGENETIC. IT'S PRETTY MUCH GENETICS OUTSIDE GENETICS AND THE NEW SCIENCE IS TELLING US THAT THE PRODUCT DERIVED BY HEMP AND MARIJUANA ARE DIRECTLY, ALMOST LIKE TAKING AN ASPIRIN FOR PAIN, RELATED TO SCHIZOPHRENIA. I'M NOT GOING TO ONLY GO AND SUPPORT THIS BILL SUPPORT FOR ANYTHING AND BRINGING THE -- SO WE CAN STOP THIS SCHIZOPHRENIA ON THE STREETS. WE HAVE TWO CANDIDATES FOR MAYORS THAT MAKE THEIR LIVING BY CREATING SCHIZOPHRENIA WITH MARIJUANA AND CANNABIS. WE HAVE TO TAKE SERIOUS ACTIONS. WE HAVE TO GO WITH EVERYTHING AGAINST IT. AND I AM GOING TO GO FOR SUPPORT 100%. I'M SORRY FOR -- WE HAVE TO GO WITH THE TIMES. AND WE HAVE TO BELIEVE IN THE NEW SCIENCE. I SUPPORT COUNCILOR LEWIS. VOTE FOR IT. LET'S GO AGAINST MARIJUANA TOO. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THAT'S I HAVE. >> THAT CONCLUDES COMMENT. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILORS, WE'RE GOING TO BACK A TINY BIT. I KNOW THIS IS A LITTLE BIT OFF TOPIC. I BELIEVE ANALIE IS AVAILABLE NOW. OR NOT YET? OKAY. COUNCILORS, WE'RE BACK ON O-78. COUNCILOR LEWIS TO START AND THEN QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS. >>COUN. LEWIS: MADAM PRESIDENT, JUST SOME CLARIFYING THINGS. THE BILL, AGAIN, IT'S RETAIL. IT DOES NOT APPLY TO THE USE OR POSSESSION OF THE PRODUCT. YOU MENTIONED THE STATE LEGISLATURE AND THE FARM BILL, WHICH IS ONE OF THE REASONS WE WERE VERY SPECIFIC IN THE BILL REGARDING SYNTHETICS OR SEMI-SYNTHETIC PRODUCTS. THIS IS -- IF YOU'RE A HEMP MANUFACTURER AND YOUR BUSINESS MODEL IS TO CREATE A PRODUCT THAT'S A HIGH DOSE INTOXICATING HEMP THAT'S JUST AS INTOXICATING OR MORE OR DANGEROUS THAN CANNABIS, IF YOUR BUSINESS MODEL IS TO MARKET THAT HIGH DOSE HEMP AND PUT IT INTO THE HANDS OF RETAIL CONVENIENCE STORES AND GAS STATIONS AND SELL IT TO CHILDREN AND PACKAGE IT IN A WAY WHERE CHILDREN CAN BUY IT, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THIS BILL HAS TO DO WITH. I THINK IT HAS VERY LITTLE TO DO WITH, IF ANYTHING AT ALL -- IN FACT, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO DO WITH THE MANUFACTURING OF THIS PRODUCT WHATSOEVER. IT'S VERY DIFFERENT. BY THE WAY, IT'S NOT REGULATED. IT'S SOMETHING LEGALLY THAT COULD BE BOUGHT BY ANYBODY AT ANY AGE IN CONVENIENCE STORES. AS FAR AS THIS HAPPENING, IF YOU WATCHED THAT LARRY BARKER INVESTIGATION, HE TALKED ABOUT PEOPLE AROUND ALBUQUERQUE. IT'S WIDESPREAD AND IT'S HAPPENING IN THE STORES. AND IT'S A POISON CAUSING PROBLEMS WITH OUR KIDS. JUST SOME CLARIFICATION. AGAIN, QUESTIONS ON ENFORCEMENT AND SOME OTHER ITEMS, I KNOW APD IS HERE TO ADDRESS THOSE. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BASSAN: ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS. REGARDING SOME OF WHAT YOU INDICATED. REGARDING THE INSPECTION AND THE -- HOW OUR CITY DEPARTMENTS ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO THIS? DOCTOR SENGEL, I'LL START WITH YOU AND YOU DIRECT HOW YOU NEED TO. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHEN INSPECTORS ARE TO GO TO ANY OF THESE COMPANIES, HOW ARE THEY GOING TO KNOW THIS HEMP PRODUCT WILL CONTAIN MORE THAN 0.3%? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH AND APD ARE LOOKING INTO THE ENFORCEMENT REQUIREMENTS. AND I DO BELIEVE COMMANDER VEERS IS HERE IF WE WANT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY HAVE LEARNED RELATED TO LAB CAPABILITIES FOR TESTING. I'M PROBABLY ANSWERING MORE THAN YOUR FIRST QUESTION. OUR CURRENT LAB CAPABILITIES DOES NOT HAVE THE CAPABILITY. THEY'RE LOOKING FOR OUTSIDE LABS FOR TESTING. OUR ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH DEPARTMENT IS LOOKING AT THE REQUIREMENTS WITHIN THE ENFORCEMENT SECTION AND WHAT IS BEING REGULATED AND BELIEVE THEY CAN DEFINITELY MEET THE REQUIREMENTS RELATED TO THE EDUCATION PORTION LISTED IN THERE. WE BELIEVE THAT THERE WILL HAVE TO BE SOME PROTOCOLS DESIGNED FOR HOW THEY DO THAT INSPECTION OR WHERE THEY CAN DO THAT INSPECTION. TODAY, THERE ARE LOCATIONS THAT POTENTIALLY SELL THESE PRODUCTS AND SELL PRODUCTS THAT MAY OR MAY NOT BE CONCERN. THEY DON'T PROBABLY GO TO EVERY ENTITY THAT MIGHT HAVE THOSE, DEPENDING ON WHAT KIND OF BUSINESS IT IS AND WHAT THC TODAY ALREADY REGULATES OR VISITS. THEY'RE LOOKING AT HOW THOSE SOPs WOULD BE INCORPORATED INTO THEIR INSPECTIONS. AND THE PRODUCTS WE LEARNED WOULD HAVE TO BE TESTED BY A LAB. >>COUN. BASSAN: LET ME PREFACE THIS BY I ABSOLUTELY WANT TO KEEP CHILDREN SAFE. I FULLY AGREE WITH REGULATING AND MAKING SURE THAT IT IS NOT JUST A FREE FOR ALL TO HAVE ANY KIND OF YOUTH BUY ANYTHING DANGEROUS FOR CONSUMPTION. HAVING CHILDREN OF MY OWN WHO ARE PERFECT ANGELS, THINGS HAPPEN. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE ABSOLUTELY REGULATE AND THE GOVERNMENT REGULATE. MY CONCERN IS, AND I EXPRESSED THIS IN OTHER COUNCIL MEETINGS. PUTTING THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE. I WANT TO TALK THROUGH TONIGHT AND GET INFORMATION, ARE WE EVEN GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO THIS AS A CITY? FROM WHAT I JUST HEARD, IF YOU HAVE ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH -- ARE THEY GOING TO GO INTO EVERY HEMP BUSINESS IN ALBUQUERQUE? IS THAT WHAT THE INTENTION IS? ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH WILL GO INTO EVERY BUSINESS IN ALBUQUERQUE? WE'LL START WITH THAT QUESTION. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, I THINK UNDERSTANDING WHETHER IT WOULD BE THROUGH COMPLAINTS REQUIREMENTS OR POSTING OF SIGNAGE, THEN WE INSPECT. I THINK ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH DEPARTMENT IS CONCERNED OF HAVING THE CAPACITY TO ADD BUSINESSES NOT KNOWING TODAY THE NUMBERS. I THINK EVERYONE IS IN THE FACT-FINDING STAGE TO ENSURE WE KNOW WHAT THAT IMPACT WOULD BE. OUR CONCLUSION HAS BEEN WE WOULD COME TO THIS COUNCIL FOR AN APPROPRIATION OR OTHER -- AS WE FACE HURDLES IN OUR INABILITY TO ENACT WHAT IS WITHIN THIS ENFORCEMENT CLAUSE. >>COUN. BASSAN: SO, IF THERE'S A COMPLAINT THAT COMES IN OR IF SIGNAGE ISN'T PRESENT AND NOW ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH GOES INTO THE COMPANIES, I'M ASSUMING IT'S ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH -- IT SAYS THERE'S DIFFERENT AGENCIES IN THE LEGISLATION. IT'S ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH, CODE ENFORCEMENT OR APD IS WHAT'S IN MY HEAD. EVEN THOUGH I THINK APD AND ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH ARE THE ONES LISTED PLUS ANY ADDITIONAL CITY DEPARTMENTS. IF THAT WERE THE CASE, THEN ANY OF THE CITY DEPARTMENTS GO IN, I'M BACK AT HOW DO THEY KNOW -- HOW DO OUR CITY EMPLOYEES KNOW THAT THERE IS MORE THAN 0.3% OF THIS DELTA SYNTHETIC AGENT? DO THEY HAVE TO SEND IT TO A LAB? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, THAT IS OUR CURRENT UNDERSTANDING. WE HAVE TO SEND IT TO AN OUTSIDE LAB. >>COUN. BASSAN: SO, WE DON'T HAVE THE CAPABILITIES? YOU CAN LEAVE YOUR MICROPHONE ON. WE DON'T HAVE THE CAPABILITIES TO SEND IT TO A LAB? OR WE DON'T HAVE LAB FOR US TO DO THE TEST? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, LIKE I SAID, COMMANDER VEERS IS HERE TO SPEAK SPECIFICALLY TO THE INVESTIGATIVE WORK THEY HAVE DONE TO UNDERSTAND, YES, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE AN OUTSIDE LAB AND WE HAVE A NEW CONTRACT TO WORK ON. >>COUN. BASSAN: WHAT WITH WOULD BE THE -- IF THIS IS -- WE'VE RETRIEVED PRODUCT FROM A BUSINESS THAT HAD A COMPLAINT, AND NOW WE'RE GOING TO SEND IT TO A LAB SOMEWHERE AND WHAT IS THE BUSINESS GOING TO DOIN THE MEANTIME? DO THEY SHUT DOWN? WHAT IS THE EXPECTATION? I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS FOR DR. SENGEL, OR MR. MORROW OR THE SPONSOR. WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TO THE BUSINESS IF THERE'S A THREAT? IF SOMEBODY SAID I'VE LAUNCHED A COMPLAINT ABOUT THIS, DO THEY GET SHUT DOWN ONLY TO FIND OUT LATER THERE'S NOTHING HAPPENING ILLEGAL IN THE FIRST PLACE? COUNCILOR LEWIS. >>COUN. LEWIS: MADAM PRESIDENT, IT'S VERY CLEAR IN THE BILL. THEY HAVE TO HAVE A SIGN UP. THERE IS NO -- AS FAR AS -- THE ACTUAL CITATIONS ARE VERY CLEAR IN THE BILL AS WELL. I WOULD SAY, WHEN IT COMES TO ENFORCEMENT, I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR FROM APD STAFF, IT WOULD BE THE SAME THING IF THERE WAS SOMEONE SELLING COCAINE OUT OF A GAS STATION OR THERE'S A COMPLAINT ABOUT IT. IT MAY NOT BE YOU HAVE OFFICERS GOING AROUND TO EVERY STORE AND TRYING TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE NOT SELLING COCAINE. BUT WHERE THERE MIGHT BE A COMPLAINT. AGAIN, THE BILL IS CLEAR ON THE CITATION. IT'S CLEAR ON THE REQUIREMENTS. I THINK SOME THINGS THAT WOULD NEED TO BE WORKED OUT JUST LIKE WITH ANYTHING, YOU KNOW, A TIME PERIOD OF SOMETHING GETTING TESTED AND COMING BACK WITH THAT AND WHERE IT WOULD BE TESTED. THESE ARE THE KINDS OF PRODUCTS WE GET TESTED ALL THE TIME THROUGH DEPARTMENT. MR. MORROW -- >>COUN. BASSAN: BEFORE WE DO THAT, I STILL HAVE THE FLOOR. I'VE READ THE BILL. IT'S NOT VERY CLEAR TO ME, COUNCILOR. I DO HAVE MORE QUESTIONS. I'LL BE HAPPY TO GO BACK TO MR. MORROW AS WELL. TO ME, IT'S NOT CLEAR ON WHAT THE PROTOCOL IS IN HERE. THERE'S A WHOLE BUNCH OF GRAY AREAS ON WHAT -- I'M CONCERNED THE CART IS BEFORE THE HORSE. I'M CONCERNED WHILE THIS IS GOOD INTENTIONED, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A POTENTIAL TO HAVE TO COME BACK AS WE HAVE MANY OTHER TIMES, AND HAVE TO RETRACT THE SAME THING GETTING PASSED. WITH GOOD INTENTION. IT'S NOT CLEAR TO ME. UNTIL I KNOW SOME OF THE ANSWERS TO THE QUESTIONS SPECIFICALLY, OR IF YOU CAN POINT OUT WHERE IT IS CLEAR IN HERE HOW AN INSPECTOR OR APD OFFICER IS GOT GO INTO A COMPANY AND RETRIEVE BASED OFF A COMPLAINT. IT DOES NOT SAY WE HAVE TO SEND IT TO A LAB. >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, THAT'S CORRECT. I'M UNFAMILIAR WITH THE ACTUAL MECHANICS TO DERIVE THE THRESHOLD QUESTION AS TO WHETHER IT EXCEEDS .3% THC LEVEL. I BELIEVE THAT IS WHAT CAO SENGEL IS DESCRIBING AS MEETING LAB TESTING. THAT IS NOT DEFINED IN THE BILL. >>COUN. BASSAN: I GUESS THE COST OF HOW MUCH THESE LAB TESTS ARE GOING TO COST THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE, AGAIN, WITH GOOD INTENTION, HOW MUCH IS THAT GOING TO COST US? IN A VERY TIGHT $1.5 BILLION BUDGET. NOW WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO? IT SAYS AN OPERATING LICENSE COULD BE REVOKED. IS AN OPERATING LICENSE THE SAME AS BUSINESS LICENSE? WE'VE CHANGED THE LICENSE, AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M NOT MISSING SOMETHING. I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THAT EXPLAINED. BECAUSE I THINK THEY'RE PROBABLY THE SAME. I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE VERIFICATION. MR. MORROW, OR ANYBODY AT THE TABLE? >> COUNCILOR BASSAN, I BELIEVE THE NEGLIGENT OF THE LEGISLATION IS IT WOULD BE THE SAME. BUT IS BUSINESS LICENSE OR BUSINESS REGISTRATION ARE DEFINED TERMS. THAT IS NOT AN OPERATING. >>COUN. BASSAN: WHAT WOULD WE BE REMOVING FROM THE BUSINESS? DO THEY HAVE AN OPERATING LICENSE? IN THE LAST COUPLE YEARS WE CHANGED THE ORDINANCE TO SAY BUSINESSES HAVE A BUSINESS ORDINANCE. IS THAT SOMETHING WE NEED TO AMEND OR DEFINE A SEPARATE TERM? >> I AGREE WITH YOU THAT IT WOULD BE AMENDED TO SAY IT'S A BUSINESS LICENSE. >>COUN. BASSAN: OKAY. SO, I GUESS, HOW IS THIS GOING TO BE AFFECTED BY THE -- WE HEARD FROM PEOPLE. I HAVE DONE RESEARCH TODAY. I ASKED AROUND. SO, HOW IS THIS GOING TO BE AFFECTED IF WE PASS THIS WITH THE QUESTIONS I STILL HAVE REMAINING. HOW IS THIS GOING TO BE AFFECTED BUT THE STATE AND FEDERAL GOVERNMENT COME FORWARD IN A PRETTY QUICK AMOUNT OF TIME. I'M WORRIED ABOUT OUR CHILDREN AND KEEP THEM SAFE. WE'RE NOT GOING TO KEEP THEM SAFE BY PASSING THIS RIGHT NOW. AT LEAST IN MY OPINION OFF OF WHAT WE HEARD. HOW ARE WE GOING TO BE AFFECTED ONCE THE STATE AND FEDERAL COME BACK TO WHATEVER IT IS THEY DECIDE? ARE WE GOING TO HAVE TO AMEND THIS OR IS THIS HOME RULE, AS WITH SEVERAL OTHER THINGS? >> COUNCILOR BASSAN, IT'S SPECKLATIVE. I COULDN'T GIVE YOU A STRICT ANSWER. BUT WE'RE BEHOLDEN TO THE FEDERAL REGULATIONS. WE WOULD NOT NEED TO CHANGE ANYTHING. BUT TO YOUR POINT, WE'RE GENERALLY ALLOWED TO DO THAT AS HOME RULE CAPACITY. NOT KNOWING WHAT ULTIMATELY COULD GET PASSED AT A STATE OR FEDERAL WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO KNOW WHETHER THIS WOULD SURVIVE AT THIS POINT. >>COUN. BASSAN: DO YOU KNOW -- DO YOU KNOW WHEN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT MAY OR MAY NOT LOOK AT MAKING LEGAL CHANGES IN REGARD TO THIS? >> COUNCILOR BASSAN, I DON'T. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU. I HAVE MORE QUESTIONS. AT THE SAME TIME, I THINK OVERALL MY POINT IS CLEAR. I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE. I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE TIMELINE. I'M CONCERNED ABOUT MEETING SOME OF THE ISSUES AND THESE QUESTIONS. BEFORE WE FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET THE DETAILS IN LINE. EVEN THOUGH I THINK THE INTENTION IS GOOD. COUNCILOR GROUT, YOU HAVE YOUR HAND UP. I WOULD LIKE TO GO TO YOU NEXT. >>COUN. GROUT: I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS. DOES THIS IMPACT THE SALE OF GUMMY THC PRODUCTS IN CANNABIS RETAIL SHOPS? I DON'T KNOW WHO NEEDS TO ANSWER THAT. >> COUNCILOR BASSAN, COUNCILOR GROUT NO. IT DOES NOT REGULATE THE SALE OF ANYTHING SOLD IN STATE-REGULATED CANNABIS SHOPS. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. ONE MORE QUESTION. MADAM PRESIDENT, DOES THE IMPACT THC SOLD IN LIQUOR STORES? >> COUNCILOR GROUT, IT SHOULD NOT HAVE ANY IMPACT ON THOSE PRODUCTS. I'M SLIGHTLY UNFAMILIAR WITH HOW THOSE ARE REGULATED. I'M CONFUSED ABOUT SEEING THEM IN RETAIL ESTABLISHMENTS. I DON'T BELIEVE IT SHOULD HAVE AN EFFECT. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR BACA. >>COUN. BACA: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I THINK, I'VE SPENT A LITTLE BIT OF TIME IN THIS IN THE INDUSTRY. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT THC AT THE LOCAL CANNABIS SHOP. WE PASSED REGULATION ON THAT LAST YEAR. THIS IS A PRODUCT THAT IS NOT SOLD IN THOSE SHOPS. THIS IS A PRODUCT THAT HAS THC BUT IT IS SOLD AT GAS STATIONS. IT'S NOT REGULATED. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT. WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT THE CANNABIS INDUSTRY IN THAT SENSE. IN THAT SENSE, WE NEED TO -- YEAH, OUR KIDS -- I DON'T WANT MY KIDS TO BE ABLE TO BUY THC FROM THE LOCAL GAS STATION. I DON'T THINK IT'S TOO MUCH OF A STRETCH TO SAY WE NEED TO REGULATE THAT OR THERE'S GOING TO BE TROUBLE REGULATING THAT. WE ALREADY REGULATE A LOT OF THESE THINGS IN GAS STATIONS OR OTHER SHOPS. WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT CAN CHECK ON THAT STUFF. I KNOW THERE ARE STATE AGENCIES THAT CAN TEST HEMP PRODUCTS. I DON'T KNOW THE COST. BUT I KNOW THAT EXISTS. THIS ISN'T SOMETHING OUT OF THE REALM OF REASONABLENESS. THE OTHER PART, I DO HOPE THE FARM BILL GETS PASSED AND IT HAS EVERYTHING WE NEED IN THERE. I HAVE ZERO FAITH IT'S GOING TO GET PASSED. WE'RE ON A ONE-YEAR EXTENSION. I DON'T HAVE LOT OF TRUST IN WHAT GETS PASSED THESE DAYS THE WAY THINGS ARE AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL. WHILE I HOPE THAT WORKS OUT, WHO KNOWS HOW THAT'S ACTUALLY GOING TO WORK OUT IF IT GETS EXTENDED IN ITS CURRENT FORM AGAIN OR IF IT GETS FIXED THE WAY WE HOPE IT DOES -- IN THE MEANTIME, LET'S TAKE CARE OF THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR ROGERS. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I HAVE THE SAME QUESTIONS. I REACHED OUT TO THE FEDERAL DELEGATION ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING FEDERALLY. RIGHT NOW, I THINK SOMEONE MENTIONED THE 2024 FARM BILL. THEY WANT TO CLOSE THIS LOOPHOLE FEDERALLY AND FINALIZE THIS LATER THIS YEAR. ONE OF THE OR THE -- I AGREE, WE NEED TO PROTECT KIDS. ONE OF THE THINGS IS THE PACKAGING OF THIS SPECIFIC -- I THINK IF WE BAN IT, WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT PACKAGING. I THINK THE PACKAGING IS CLEARLY MARKETING TO YOUTH. I'M JUST WONDERING ABOUT THE PACKAGING PART. I THINK I JUST ANSWERED MY OWN QUESTION. WHAT IF WE JUST BANNED THEM AND WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THE PACKAGING. THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I JUST KEEP HEARING THAT WE WANT TO REGULATE THIS INDUSTRY, WHICH I AGREE WITH. I THINK WE ALL AGREE THAT WE DON'T WANT CHILDREN TO BE ABLE TO ACCESS THIS AT A GAS STATION OR ANYWHERE ELSE. I JUST QUESTION THE USE OF THE TERM REGULATE VERSUS PROHIBIT. WHAT I'M SEEING IN FRONT OF ME PROHIBITS THE SALE OF THIS. PERIOD. NOT REGULATE THE SALE SO YOU CAN'T BUY IT IF YOU'RE A JUVENILE. OR IT HAS TO BE LAFBLED LIABLED IN A WAY THAT WE KNOW WHAT IT CONTAINS. MAYBE MR. MORROW CAN SAY, IF THE INTENT IS TO PROHIBIT THIS PRODUCT PERIOD? >> COUNCILOR BASSAN, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, I WOULD DEFER TO COUNCILOR LEWIS. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: I GUESS MY POINT IS THAT WE CONTINUE TO USE THE WORD REGULATE, WHICH I SUPPORT. BUT THIS IS NOT A REGULATION. THIS IS A PROHIBITION. >>COUN. BASSAN: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? I JUST WANT TO TAKE A QUICK MOMENT TO SAY THAT I AM WELL AWARE THIS IS NOT ABOUT CANNABIS. I KNOW THIS IS ABOUT HEMP, WHICH ARE TWO VERY DIFFERENT THING. I'M WELL AWARE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SALES AT GAS STATIONS AND UNREGULATED LOCATION. I'M FULLY AWARE THAT I WANT MY CHILDREN TO BE SAFE AND NOT HAVE ACCESS TO ALL OF THAT. THAT'S SOMETHING I WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR. WHAT I'M ALSO CLEAR WITH IS I HAVE COMMON SENSE QUESTIONS ABOUT WHY ARE WE GOING TO CONSIDER DOING SOMETHING BEFORE WE ACTUALLY KNOW HOW TO DO IT? WITH THAT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE TO CLEAR THE AIR. I'M VERY CLEAR ON CANNABIS VERSUS HEMP, GAS STATION, AND EASY ACCESS. SEEING NO FURTHERER QUESTION. COUNCILOR LEWIS TO CLOSE. >>COUN. LEWIS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. BASSAN: THE MOTION IS FOR A DO PASS TO R-78. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: NO. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: NO. >> PASSES ON A 7-2 VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: WE'RE MOVING TO AGENDA ITEM B. COUNCILOR GROUT, BY REQUEST. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. R-130 IS AMENDING THE CAPITAL IMPLEMENTATION PROGRAM WITH WITH CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE PROGRAM BY SUPPLEMENTING CURRENT APERATING GRANTS AND APPROPRIATIONS AND APPROVING NEW PROJECTS. I MOVE A DO PASS. >>COUN. BASSAN: THERE'S A MOTION AND SECOND BY COUNCILOR ROGERS. COUNCILOR GROUT TO OPEN. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. THIS IS -- THESE ARE MONIES THAT COME FROM THE STATE, I BELIEVE. AND THEY NEED TO BE APPROPRIATED SO THAT THEY CAN INTEENT ON SOME OF THE PROJECTS WE HAVE IN OUR CITY. WE HAVE A COUPLE OF AMENDMENTS. >>COUN. BASSAN: BEFORE WE GO TO -- OH, NO. NEVER MIND. LET'S GO TO AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE. AMENDMENT ONE IS ON PAPER FOR US HERE. AND IN YOUR iPAD. >>COUN. GROUT: FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE, ON PAGE TWO, AFTER LINE 23 INSERT THE FOLLOWING. THE FOLLOWING APPROPRIATION OF $525,000 FROM BERNALILLO COUNTY AND $5.5 MILLION FROM EXPLORA SCIENCE CENTER ARE AUTHORIZED AND APPROVED PROJECTS. THESE PROJECTS ARE AUTHORIZED TO BE APPROPRIATED BOO A SPECIFIC GRANT IN CAPITAL FUNDS AS FOLLOWS. AND IT'S LISTED THERE. THE EXPLANATION, THE APPROPRIATES FUNDING FROM THE 2024 GO FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE BRILLIANTE LEARNING CENTER. THIS IS AN APPROVED GOVERNMENTAL AGREEMENT AND RECEIVED PURCHASE ORDER FROM THE BERNALILLO COUNTY. ALSO, THE AMENDMENT APPROPRIATES FUNDING DONATED BY EXPLORA FOR AN AMENDMENT -- MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING FOR A STEM LEARNING CAMPUS. THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE HAS WRITTEN AGREEMENTS FOR THE OPERATION AND LEASE OF THE FACILITY SINCE IT OPENED. IT HAS A CURRENT AGREEMENT IN PLACE THROUGH 2030. I MOVE A DO PASS. I ASK FOR APPROVAL. >>COUN. BASSAN: THERE'S A MOTION FOR APPROVAL ON AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND FROM COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? SEEING NONE. MOTION IS TO APPROVE AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE. FOR R-130. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR GROUT, AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO? >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO IS TECHNICAL AMENDMENT TO CORRECT THE TOTAL. ON PAGE 1, LINE 23, AMEND THE FOLLOWING. SECTION TWO, FOLLOWING APPROPRIATIONS OF $4.5 MILLION ARE HEREBY -- AND CONTINUE. I MOVE APPROVAL. >>COUN. BASSAN: MOTION, AND I'LL DO THE SECOND. COUNCILORS, THIS IS IN THE iPAD. IT WAS A LITTLE BIT LATER THAT IT WAS ADDED. IT IS TO CORRECT FOR THE CHANGE IN THE AMENDMENT BEFORE. IT'S LATER IN THE BILL. THAT'S WHY THIS TECHNICAL AMENDMENT HAS BEEN PROVIDED. I BELIEVE. NO? I WAS WRONG. MR. MOTSCO. >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, THIS ACTUALLY IS A TECHNICAL AMENDMENT FROM THE FGO AMENDMENT THAT WE ADDED. WE ADDED SECTION TWO, IT WAS A $1.6 MILLION INCLUSION, BUT WE FORGOT TO ADD THE FIRST LINE. IT CHANGES IT FROM 2.8 TO 4.5. IT'S A TECHNICAL AMENDMENT. >>COUN. BASSAN: I STAND CORRECTED. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO? MADAM CLERK. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. BASSAN: WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO PUBLIC COMMENT. >> WE HAVE LISA TO SPEAK. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COUNCILOR BASSAN, COUNCILORS. I'M ASKING FOR BLAKE ROAD BETWEEN UNSER BOULEVARD AND COORS BOULEVARD THERE'S A SCHOOL THAT IS THERE. A CHARTER SCHOOL. AND MULTIPLE TIMES REACHED OUT TO THE CITY AND TO THE COUNTY AND TO THE STATE AND TO COUNCILOR PEÑA. IT'S A ROAD THAT IS CAUGHT BETWEEN MULTI-JURISDICTIONS. IT HAS A SCHOOL. AND THERE ARE, JUST AS LAST WEEK, AN ELDERLY PERSON SHUFFLING WITH THEIR WALKER. IT'S JUST DIRT. THERE'S NO SIDE WALK FROM THE TRAILER PARKS TO WHERE THE STORE IS, THE GAS STATION. I PROMISED -- I DOUBT THEY'RE GOING FOR THE THC OR HEMP STUFF. WE HAVE NO SIDE WALK AND WE DON'T HAVE -- IT'S JUST DANGEROUS. THE CITY ALREADY DID THE STUDY. IT'S A DANGEROUS ROAD. WHAT CAN WE DO? WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO TO GET MONEY INTO SOMEHOW THE CITY -- IF WE HAVE MONEY SITTING AROUND AND IT COMES OUT LATER THERE'S MONEY THAT COULD HAVE BEEN USED ON LIGHTS OR SIDEWALKS OR SOMETHING, HOW DO YOU THINK THE VOTERS ARE GOING TO THINK ABOUT THAT? I KNOW YOU ARE LIMITED BY THE MAYOR'S BUDGET, BUT PLEASE, THIS IS PART OF THE ROAD THAT IT NEEDS SIDEWALKS. WE'VE GOT KIDS AND OLDER PEOPLE AND IT'S DIRT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> NOT SEEING DAWN ON ZOOM. THAT CONCLUDES COMMENT. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. MS. TURNER IS HERE, I'M NOT GOING TO ASK HER TO COME UP. IF YOU CAN REACH OUT TO HER AND YOU'VE SPOKEN WITH HER BEFORE. I KNOW WE HAD -- YES, WE'RE TRYING TO GET THE MONEY TO GET THAT ROAD DONE. AND 20 OTHER ROADS IN DISTRICT THREE. YES. IF YOU CAN REACH OUT TO HER AND LET HER KNOW WHERE WE'RE AT. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILORS, WE'RE BACK ON R-130 AS AMENDED. ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? COUNCILOR GROUT TO CLOSE. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. BASSAN: WE'RE MOVING TO AGENDA ITEM C. R-145. COUNCILOR BACA. >>COUN. BACA: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. DIRECTING THE ADMINISTRATION TO SUPPORT LOCAL PERFORMING ARTS IN DISTRICT TWO. CONDUCT A MINIMUM OF PERFORMANCES ON ART SPACES. THIS IS A BILL THAT CAME FROM LACK OF USE OF OUR SPACES FOR THE PAST -- SINCE COVID, TO BE HONEST. IN ANY CASE, THE ADMINISTRATION AND EVERYBODY NOW IS ON BOARD AND WORKING TOGETHER ON THE SAME PAGE. WHICH WASN'T THE CASE WHEN I FIRST INTRODUCED THIS BILL. HOW DO I WITHDRAW IT? >>COUN. BASSAN: YOU CAN WITH MOTION TO WITHDRAW. >>COUN. BASSAN: THERE'S A MOTION TO WITH DRAW. THERE A SECOND? SECOND FROM COUNCILOR ROGERS. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. BASSAN: WE'RE MOVING TO OTHER BUSINESS. WHICH THERE IS NONE. WE'LL BE AT ADMINISTRATIVE Q&A. COUNCILORS, THERE'S QUESTIONS FROM COUNCILOR CHAMPINE AND WE'LL GO TO OTHERS IF YOU HAVE THEM. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS. I BELIEVE THEY'RE FOR THE ADMINISTRATION. RECENTLY, IN THE NEWS WE SAW SIX HOTELS CLOSED DOWN. HOW MANY VIOLATIONS DID THESE LOCATIONS RECEIVE? AND OVER WHAT TIME PERIOD? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE, DIRECTOR VARELA WAS HERE. I'M SORRY. DEPUTY DIRECTOR KAISER IS HERE FROM THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND CAN SPEAK TO SPECIFIC QUESTIONS RELATED TO THE HOTEL OPERATIONS WE'VE HAD. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. KAISER, WELCOME. >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE, WHAT WAS THE QUESTION? >>COUN. CHAMPINE: THANK YOU, DIRECTOR. I WAS CURIOUS ABOUT THE VIOLATIONS. WE CLOSED DOWN SIX HOTELS. I'M CURIOUS ON THE AMOUNT OF VIOLATIONS AND WHAT TIME PERIOD DID THEY HAVE? >> I DON'T HAVE THE SPECIFICS OF THE VIOLATIONS. THAT'S SOMETHING I CAN GET FOR YOU, IF THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM. I HAVE AN OVERVIEW OF THE VIOLATIONS. AND I CAN GIVE YOU HIGHLIGHTS. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: PLEASE. >> SO, WITH THE BARCELONA SUITES WE FOUND CERTIFICATE OCCUPANCY FOR NONCOMPLIANCE. IT'S BEING USED IN LONG-TERM CAPACITY. WE HAVE THE FURNACE, FILTRATION SYSTEM, PLUMBING, AND THERE'S LEGAL CONSTRICTION TO INCLUDE THE ROOF IN THE EXTERIOR AREAS. ROOF AND EXTERIOR DAMAGE INCLUDES EXTENSIVE WEAR. DAMAGED SCUFFERS, MISSING PENETRATION BOOTS. IMPACTED HVAC OVERRAN BY PIGEON INFESTATION. WE FOUND HOLES IN THE CEILING AND DRAWWALL. MOLD WAS RUNNING RAMPANT THROUGHOUT THE FACILITY. BATHROOM DAMAGE. WE FOUND WHERE TOILETS AND TUBS WERE CRUMBLING INTO PIECES AND BROKEN TOWEL RACKS. TOWEL RODS. AND INOPERABLE LIGHT FIXTURES AND FANS. WE FOUND A MULTITUDE OF WIRING AND LIGHTING DEFICIENCIES THROUGHOUT THE PROPERTY. BIOLOGICAL HAZARDS. VENTILATION ISSUE. MOLD AND WATERTRUSION -NTRUSION NON-FUNCTIONING OR DAMAGED BLUMMING FIXTURES. AND IMPROPER KICKIN' USE. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: MADAM PRESIDENT. DEPUTY DIRECTOR, THANK YOU. IS THAT ALL FROM BARCELONA COURTS? >> THAT IS THE CODE ENFORCEMENT PORTION. THAT'S JUST THE HIGHLIGHT. THAT'S NOT THE ENTIRETY. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: MADAM PRESIDENT, THAT'S A LONG LIST. I SUSPECT, AND PLEASE CONFIRM OR DENY, THIS ISN'T THE FIRST TIME THE LONG LIST HAS BEEN NOTED. THIS ISN'T AN OVERNIGHT THING. HOW MANY TIMES WAS THIS PLACE INSPECTED UNTIL IT WAS DECIDED THIS ISN'T BEING FIXED? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE, IF YOU'RE ASKING LIKE HOW MANY PREVIOUS INSPECTIONS THE CITY HAS DONE ON THAT PARTICULAR FACILITY? >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >> THE PROGRAM WAS UNDER THE ADAPT PROGRAM. THERE WAS AN OVERVIEW OF THE PROPERTY. WHAT WE FOUND WAS THE PROPERTY WAS DURING THE INSPECTIONS THEY WERE REVIEWING SMALL PORTIONS OF THE PROPERTY AND REVIEWING SOME OF THE AREAS. A FULL INSPECTION WAS NOT CONDUCTED ON THE FACILITY. THAT IS WHAT CODE ENFORCEMENT CONDUCTED ON THE FACILITY. BASED OFF THE COMPLAINT AND WHAT WE SAW DURING THE RECENT INSPECTION OF THE PROPERTY. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: OKAY. I DON'T KNOW IF COUNCILOR GROUT HAS A QUESTION. >>COUN. BASSAN: I THINK SHE HAS OTHER QUESTIONS. >>COUN. BASSAN: I WILL COME BACK TO YOU, COUNCILOR GROUT. I WILL COME BACK. I'D RATHER FINISH HERE. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: THANK YOU. WILL YOU GET -- WILL YOU GET WITH THE REST OF THE OTHER LOCATIONS CLOSED AND THE INFORMATION AND TIMELINE AND VIOLATIONS? WOULD THAT BE POSSIBLE? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE, THAT'S AN EASY THING TO DO. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: THANK YOU. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR GROUT, IS YOURS ABOUT CODE ENFORCEMENT? >>COUN. GROUT: YES, MADAM PRESIDENT. >>COUN. BASSAN: GO AHEAD. >>COUN. GROUT: MADAM PRESIDENT, THANK YOU. I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE DEPUTY. I GET TO DRIVE BY THIS PROPERTY EVERY DAY ON MY WAY TO WORK. FOR YEARS, I'VE BEEN DOING THAT. I SEE WHAT'S OUT THERE. SO, I ACTUALLY WENT -- WHEN I FIRST HEARD THEY WERE GOING TO BE CLOSING TEMPORARILY UNTIL THEY GET THINGS FIXED, I DID GO BY TO SEE FOR MYSELF WHAT THEY WERE DOING. I CAN REPORT THAT THEY, FIRST OF ALL, THEY HAD ALL APARTMENTS. I WAS IMPRESSED WITH HOW IT WAS HANDLED. ACS WAS THERE. THEY HAD APD. THEY HAD SHUTTLES HELPLING THEM. THEY ALSO MADE SURE THAT ALL OF THE FOLKS HAD A PLACE TO GO. THEY HAD MOTEL VOUCHERS READY. THEY WERE ABLE TO GET SIX INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE VETERANS TO THE VETERANS INTEGRATION CENTER SO THEY COULD BE CONNECTED WITH CASE WORKERS TO HELP THEM GET INTO A PERMANENT PLACE. I ALSO GOT TO SPEAK TO SOME OF THE RESIDENTS THERE. I ALSO WITNESSED -- I GOT TO SEE THE MESS THAT IS THERE. NONE OF THESE PEOPLE NEED TO BE LIVING IN THE CONDITIONS. I ALSO GOT TO SEE THE PROPERTY OWNER OR REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE PROPERTY OWNER THAT FLEW IN. THEY WOULD LIKE TO GET THIS PLACE FIXED UP. FROM THE OUTSIDE IT DOESN'T LOOK THAT BAD. WHEN YOU GO INSIDE AND GO ROOM BY ROOM IT'S A HOT MESS. SO, I AM GRATEFUL THAT IT WAS -- HOW IT WAS HANDLED. ALL OF THESE PEOPLE DID RECEIVE SERVICES AND A PLACE TO GO. I DO HOPE AND I DO FEEL LIKE THEY WILL HAVE FOLLOW UPS SO THAT THEY WON'T BE DISPLACED. I ALSO HOPE THAT PROPERTY OWNER DOES FIX IT UP. IT WILL BE A LOVELY PLACE FOR PEOPLE TO LIVE. 163 UNITS. WE ALL KNOW WE CAN USE THAT IN HERE. IT DOES NEED TO BE IN GOOD SHAPE. I HATE WHEN THINGS LIKE THIS HAPPEN, BUT IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE PEOPLE TO LIVE THERE WITH DIGNITY, AND FREE OF CRIME. AND, AGAIN, I HOPE THIS PROPERTY IS REVITALIZED SO IT CAN SERVE THE COMMUNITY WELL. I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE CITY FOR HOW THEY DID MANAGE THIS. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR CODE ENFORCEMENT? THANK YOU, DIRECTOR. HAVE A GREAT EVENING. COUNCILOR CHAMPINE. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. THIS QUESTION IS FOR THE ADMINISTRATION. RECENTLY BROUGHT UP IN THE MEDIA THAT THE SAFE OUTDOOR SPACE THAT PEOPLE ARE ESTABLISHING BY THE WEST SIDE SHELTER. IS THAT CORRECT? IN MY INFORMATION THAT I READ. >> COUNCILOR CHAMPINE, WE RECENTLY SHARED WITH THE COMMUNITY THROUGH COMMUNICATION THAT THERE ARE PROPERTIES TO BE CONSIDERED FOR SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES. ALL OF THOSE PROPERTIES WITH ANYONE INTERESTED IN OPERATING THE SAFE OUTDOOR SPACE WE WELCOME THEM TO DISCUSS WHAT WE HAD PUT ON THE PUBLISHED ON THE WEBSITE. ANY SAFE OUTDOOR SPACE HAS TO GO THROUGH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT APPLICATION AND REQUIREMENTS WE HAVE FOR SAFE OUTDOOR SPACE. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: MY QUESTION IS IF IT'S CITY-OWNED PROPERTY AND THE PLACES ARE ESTABLISHING SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES, WHO IS LIABLE WHEN OCCURRENCES COME UP? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE, THROUGH THE APPLICATION PROCESS, WE WOULD MAKE THOSE DETERMINATIONS BASED ON UNDERSTANDING WHO THAT OPERATOR MAY BE. THERE'S SO MANY DIFFERENT FACTORS THAT CAN COME THROUGH THAT APPLICATION PROCESS. OUR GOAL WAS TO REMIND FOLKS THAT SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES WITHIN OUR ORDINANCES AND BE OPEN TO WHETHER OR NOT FOLKS ARE INTERESTED IN THE COMMUNITY. OPERATORS MAY BE PARTNERS OR THEY MAY BE INTERESTED BUT NAY NOT HAVE PHYSICAL PROPERTY. THAT IS OUR GOAL WITH THE COMMUNICATION. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: WE WEREN'T ABLE TO THINK ABOUT WHO IS LIABLE. IF THERE'S SOMETHING -- OBVIOUSLY, IF THEY SET UP THIS DEAL AND IT'S AN AGREEMENT AND A CRIMINAL INCIDENT HAPPENS, THE CITY IS OPEN FOR THIS? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE, ANY CRIMINAL ACTIVITY WOULD STILL BE HANDLED BY APD. METRO SECURITY. WE WOULD BE MANAGING ALL OF THOSE ISSUES AS WE WOULD ANY OTHER PROPERTY. AND UNDERSTAND THOSE ARE ISSUES THAT COME ABOUT RELATED TO ANY PROPERTY WITH INDIVIDUALS LIVING ON THE SITE. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: I WOULD SUSPECT WE'RE LEFT LIABLE FOR THAT AND OUR POCKETS ARE DEEPER THAN NORMAL, SO WE ARE OPEN FOR LAWSUITS IF SOME INCIDENT HAPPENS AT A SAFE OUTDOOR SPACE. MADAM PRESIDENT, I APOLOGIZE. WHAT DOES THE CITY GET OUT FROM THESE AGREEMENTS? WHEN YOU GO -- WHEN YOU GO INTO CONTRACT WITH THE ENTITIES THAT ARE GOING OUT THERE TO DO THIS, WHAT IS IT THE CITY RECEIVES IN RETURN FOR GIVING THESE SPACES OUT? >> IN THAT APPLICATION PROCESS, WE WOULD ENTER INTO WHAT TYPES OF CONSIDERATION WE WOULD HAVE IN ANY AGREEMENT. AGAIN, THAT HAPPENS AT THE TIME OF UNDERSTANDING WHAT THEY INTEND TO BRING IN THAT AGREEMENT. IN THE BIGGER PICTURE, WE RECEIVE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR SOMEONE TO BE OPERATING AN ENVIRONMENT FOR CHANGES THE PREFER NOT TO BE IN SHELTERS OR IN ANY OTHER TYPES OF SERVICES TO BE IN AN ENVIRONMENT IN WHICH WE -- THE SAFE OUTDOOR SPACE REQUIREMENTS IN THAT APPLICATION PROCESS. THAT HAS TO BE APPROPRIATE AND SECURED. IF I'M RECOLLECTING ACCURATELY, THE AREA HAS TO BE SECURED WITH A FENCE. THERE HAS TO BE HYGIEN SUPPORT FOR THE INDIVIDUALS. AND OF COURSE SECURITY ENVIRONMENT FOR FOLKS. SO, WE BELIEVE THAT THERE IS A VALUE AND BENEFIT TO THE COMMUNITY FOR SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: THE CITY IS NOT GOING TO GET RENT FROM THESE COMPANIES FOR THE SPACE? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE -- >>COUN. CHAMPINE: MONETARY OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? >> WE HAVEN'T CONSIDERED THE EXACT CONSIDERATION AT THIS POINT. BASED UPON NOT KNOWING SQUARE FOOTAGE OR THE INTENTION. SO, IN THAT CONTRACT PROCESS, WE WOULD DO SO. WE WOULD MAKE THAT CONSIDERATION. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YOU'D SAY YOU'RE GOING IN WITH A BLANK SLATE OF WHAT WE AS A CITY WANT IN RETURN FOR LAND BEING USED. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: I JUST HAVE ONE LAST INFORMATION OR QUESTION. THERE WAS A HOMICIDE AT TRAMWAY AND MONT MONTGOMERY MONTHS AGO. I KNOW WE CAN'T TALK ABOUT ONGOING INVESTIGATIONS. BUT THERE REALLY ISN'T MUCH TALK ABOUT WHAT IT WAS. I'M GETTING A LOT OF CONSTITUENTS ASKING BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT SEEING IT. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE, I WILL FOLLOW UP WITH YOU. AND GIVE YOU WHAT WE CAN, RELATED TO THAT SPECIFIC INCIDENT. DO YOU REMEMBER THE MONTH? IT'S OKAY. WE'LL LOOK IT UP. THANK YOU. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: THANK YOU. I'M SORRY, JUST ONE LAST QUESTION. I READ THIS WRONG. THE NATIONAL GUARD. I SAW THERE WAS, MADAM PRESIDENT, THERE WAS TRAINING AND THERE'S A COUPLE OF PUBLIC INFORMATION EVENTS THAT WENT ON. I WASN'T ABLE TO ATTEND THEM. WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE TRAINING WITH THE NATIONAL GUARD? >> COMMANDER VEERS IS HERE. AND HE CAN SPEAK RELATED TO THE NATIONAL GUARD AND THEIR TRAINING. >>COUN. BASSAN: GOOD EVENING, COMMANDER. >> GOOD EVENING, MADAM PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OF THEAL. JUST TO SPEAK ON THE TRAINING FOR THE NATIONAL GUARD. THE TRAINING PROVIDED TO THEM WAS EQUIVALENT TO PSA. POLICE SERVICE AIDS WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT. THEY DON'T DO THE FULL TRAINING AS POLICE SERVICE AIDS. IT'S A CUTDOWN VERSION OF THAT. THEIR DUTIES ARE LIMITED TO JUST A FEW DIFFERENT THINGS. ALL THAT TRAINING HAS BEEN COMPLETED BY APD WITH THE NEW MEXICO NATIONAL GUARD. IT CONSISTS OF RADIO PROCEDURES, HOW TO BLOCK TRAFFIC, HOLDING PERIMETERS, IDENTIFYING ILLEGAL SUBSTANCES, IDENTIFYING EVIDENCE AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. VERY BASIC, SIMPLE SCENE PRESERVATION AND BLOCKING ROADS AND DIRECTOR TRAFFIC AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. THEY ARE GOING TO BE LIMITED TO THREE DIFFERENT AREAS, PRIMARILY IN THE FIELD. THEY'LL BE DOING PERIMETERS AND SECURITY. IF THERE'S A SWAT CALL OR MAJOR TRAFFIC FATALITY THAT REQUIRES OFFICERS TO BLOCK ROADS, THEY'LL ASSIST WITH TRAFFIC CONTROL TO FREE UP OFFICERS TO TAKE CALLS FOR SERVICE. THAT WILL HELP US IN THE FIELD. THEY'LL ASSIST WITH THE REALTIME CRIME CENTER. THEY HELP AS A PRISONER TRANSPORT UNIT. AS FAR AS COLLECTING INDIVIDUAL'S PROPERTY AS BEING PROCESSED TO BE TRANSPORTED TO THE JAIL. JUST EXPEDITE THE PROCESS AND FREE UP SOME OF THE CURRENT OFFICERS AND PSA AND PRISONER TRANSPORT UNIT OFFICERS. THEY JUST IN THAT WAY. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: MADAM PRESIDENT, COMMANDER, IS IT APD THAT DID THE TRAINING? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE YES. APD DID DO SOME OF THE TRAINING WITH NEW MEXICO NATIONAL GUARD. IT DID OCCUR UP IN SANTA FE. THERE WAS SOME TRAINING, HANDS ON SCENARIO-BASED TRAINING LIKE CRISIS INTERVENTION TRAINING AT THE REALITY-BASED TRAINING. MOST OF THE TRAINING WAS CONDUCTED IN SANTA FE. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: MADAM PRESIDENT, WHAT TOOLS WILL THE NATIONAL GUARD BE ISSUED? BASED ON THE TRAINING. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE, BASED ON THE TRAINING PROVIDED THE ONLY THING IS OC SPRAY WHICH IS EQUIVALENT TO POLICE SERVICE AID. THAT'S A DEFENSE MECHANISM ONLY. THEY DON'T GET INVOLVED IN USE OF FORCE. THEY'RE NOT SWORN POLICE OFFICERS. THEY'RE DEFENSE AGENTS AS WE OFFICER POLICE SERVICE AIDS TO PROTECT THEMSELVES IF THEY FIND THEMSELVES IN A SITUATION WHERE THEY NEED TO DEFEND THEMSELVES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: NO HANDCUFFING TECHNIQUES? NO HANDCUFFING WILL BE ISSUED? FOR THE DETENTION HANDCUFFING TECHNIQUES? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE, THEY DID NOT TRAIN IN HANDCUFFING. AND THEY WILL NOT BE ISSUES ANY HANDCUFFS. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YOU SAID THEY WILL BE USED IN RBT? I'M SORRY. THEY WILL BE USED AT THE RTCC. >> YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: WHAT SWORN OFFICERS ARE STATIONED THAT THEY'LL BE REPLACING? >> COUNCILOR CHAMPINE, I DON'T BELIEVE IT'S SWORN OFFICERS. I THINK IT'S JUST HELPS THE FUNCTIONS THAT ARE DONE. THOSE ARE A LOT OF ELECTRONICS. PROVIDING INFORMATION. OFFICERS RESPONDING TO CALLS. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: MADAM PRESIDENT, HOW MANY OF THEM WILL BE HEADING TO THE RTCC? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE, I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT NUMBERS. I CAN GET THAT FOR YOU. AND CIRCLE BACK ON THAT. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: I APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR ROGERS. MY QUESTIONS ARE FOR THE ADMINISTRATION. DON'T FEEL LIKE YOU HAVE TO ANSWER THE QUESTIONS. >>COUN. BASSAN: JUST IN CASE, THERE'S ANOTHER QUESTION THAT MIGHT HAVE A QUESTION. STAND BY. GO AHEAD, COUNCILOR ROGERS. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I ACTUALLY WENT TO THOSE TOWN HALLS BECAUSE IT'S IMPORTANT TO GIVE COMMUNITY A HEADS UP. EVEN THOUGH WE DIDN'T GET A HEADS UP. ABOUT THE NATIONAL GUARD BEING CALLED IN. I HAVE TO SAY ON THE RECORD I PULLED OUT OF PARTICIPATING IN THE TOWN HALL BECAUSE I DON'T FEEL LIKE WE FOLLOWED OUR OWN TOOL KIT ON HOW TO DO COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT. WE HAVE A TOOL KIT I DEVELOPED IN OEI THAT WAS NOT USED. I WAS VERY VOCAL. DIRECTLY WITH ADMINISTRATION AND CHIEF ABOUT WHAT WE NEEDED AND WHAT WE SHOULD HAVE BEFORE WE GO TO COMMUNITY. WE'RE HEARING THIS IS CITYWIDE. THE NATIONAL GUARD IS GOING TO BE CITYWIDE. WHY WERE THERE NO TOWN HALLS PLANNED OUTSIDE OF MY DISTRICT? THAT'S FOR THE ADMINISTRATION. WHEN ARE WE GOING TO HAVE -- MY DISTRICTS FEELS LIKE THEY'RE JUST GOING TO BE IN MY AREA. ESPECIALLY WHEN THE ONLY ROLLOUT FOR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT WAS IN MY DISTRICT. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR ROGERS, I THINK IT WAS AN OVERSIGHT OR LACK OF COORDINATION TO THINK THROUGH WITH YOU MORE EFFECTIVELY ABOUT THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PORTION OF IT. I THINK OUR TEAM FELT THEY WERE REACHING OUT IN THE RIGHT WAY. THAT DOESN'T MEAN IT'S ACCURATE. I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT. AND I THINK THE TEAM WANTED TO MAKE SURE THEY WERE -- BASED UPON THE FEEDBACK, MAKING SURE THEY WERE MEETING YOUR FRUKT -- YOUR COMMUNITY. THEY WERE COMMUNICATING WITH YOUR DISTRICT AND THE SOUTHEAST HEIGHT. THE PARAMETER OF THE AREA. SO, THE DESIGN FOR THOSE TOWN HALLS WAS TO MAKE SURE WE WERE RESPONSIVE BASED UPON THE REQUEST OF THE AREA. IF THERE ARE COUNCILORS THAT WANT ADDITIONAL, WE CAN DO THAT. AND WE CAN FIND A BEST PRACTICE FOR COMMUNICATING THAT. BOTH APD AND OUR OFFICE OF EQUITY AND INCLUSION AND OUR COMP TEAM IS SHARING THE INFORMATION BROADLY ACROSS THE CITY SO THERE'S NOT A TARGETED GROUP OF COMMUNITY IT'S INTENDED TO COMMUNICATE WITH. >>COUN. ROGERS: I THINK IT'S JUST CONTRARY. I DID SHARE ALL THIS WITH YOUR TEAM BEFORE THESE WERE VOIN EVEN ANNOUNCED. I SAID YOU NEED TO HAVE A LIST OF WHERE THEY ARE ACROSS THE WHOLE CITY BEFORE WE ROLL ANYTHING OUT. I THINK IT WAS -- IN A DIRECT RESPONSE TO ME ASKING AT THE COUNCIL MEETING THAT I HAVEN'T HEARD ABOUT THIS, RATHER THAN RUSHING TO DO THIS, IT KIND OF BACKFIRED. EVERYTHING I GAVE YOUR DEPARTMENT, THE COMMUNITY BROUGHT UP. I ASKED FOR AN FAQ SHEET. THEY OBLIGED, BUT THE FAQ SHEET THE BIGGEST PART IS WHAT ARE THEY WEARING. MAKE SURE THOSE ARE ON THE FAQ. I STILL HAVEN'T RECEIVED A RESPONSE FROM THE DEPARTMENT ABOUT WHAT'S HAP MVENG -- HAPPENING. I HAD TO WATCH THE TOWN HALL TO SEE IF THERE UNIFORM IS THERE. THEY'RE STILL NOT ON THE FAQ SHEET. IT WAS NOT TRANSLATED. I JUST HIGHLIGHTED LANGUAGE ACCESS OF APD, HERE WE ARE AT TOWN HALLS WITH NO LANGUAGE ACCESS. UNACCEPTABLE. THE OTHER THING IS WHAT DOES CERT STAND FOR? I GET A TON OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THE LABEL THAT'S ON THE PATCH THAT THEY'RE WEARING. PEOPLE ARE TRIGGERED THAT IT MEANS CELL EXTRACTION RESPONSE TEAM LIKE WHEN YOU'RE IN JAIL AND THEY SEND SOMEBODY TO GET YOU OUT OF YOUR CELL. WHAT DOES THAT STAND FOR? AND HOW DO WE CHOOSE CERT? WAS -- WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR ROGERS, NEITHER OF US KNOW. WE'LL GET THAT ANSWER. IT'S NOT SOMETHING I KNOW OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. >>COUN. ROGERS: TO THE POINT, I KNOW VERY WELL WHAT MY COMMUNITY WANTS AND WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO COME TO YOU WITH. I LISTED THEM OUT. ONE BY ONE BY ONE. I HAVE TO SAY TO MY COMMUNITY, THANK YOU. EVERYTHING I SAID TO THE ADMINISTRATION, YOU SAID VOCALLY TO THE TOWN HALL. I HAVE BEEN SCREAMING. ALL THE WAY UNTIL I RESCINDED MY PARTICIPATION BECAUSE OF HOWABLY -- HOWABLY HOR DO THEY HAVE RADIO ACCESS? THE NATIONAL GUARD IS GOING TO HAVE ACCESS TO APD RADIO? >> COUNCILOR ROGERS, YES, MA'AM. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU. I'LL STOP HERE. BUT SAYING, JUST PULL OUT THE TOOL KIT WE PUT TOGETHER IN OEI AND GO DOWN THE CHECK LIST AND USE THAT FOR ANY FURTHER COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT. AND PLEASE, I ASKED VERY STERNLY, TO HAVE THESE FOR OUR UNSHELTERED POPULATION. FOR FOLKS IN SUBSTANCE ABUSE THAT ARE REALLY SCARED ABOUT WHAT IT MEANS FOR THEM. I ASKED FOR THAT AND IT WAS IGNORED. COMPLETELY IGNORED. THANK YOU, DISTRICT SIX COMMUNITY THAT ARE WATCHING AND HERE AND VOCAL. WE NEED HELP. WE DO NEED HELP. APD NEEDS THE HELP. I UNDERSTAND THAT. I THINK THERE'S A WAY WE CAN WORK WITH COMMUNITY TO MAKE SURE WE FEEL SAFE ALSO. PLEASE DON'T GET IT TWISTED. I DON'T LIKE MILITARIZED THINGS IN OUR COMMUNITY, BUT I ALSO UNDERSTAND APD NEEDS HELP. THERE'S A WAY WE CAN BALANCE THAT WITH COMMUNITY SO THAT THEY KNOW WHERE TO REPORT THINGS IF THEY SEE SOMETHING. THEY HAVE A PLACE TO REPORT THAT. THAT'S ALSO NOT ON THE FAQ SHEET. LET'S CONTINUE TO WORK TOGETHER. I DON'T WANT TO SAY BAD JOB. LET'S WORK TOGETHER, WHICH I TRIED TO DO. AND I FELT IGNORED. STRAIGHT UP IGNORED ABOUT WHAT I NEEDED IN MY DISTRICT. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BASSAN: DR. SENGEL. >> I THINK THAT CHIEF MEDINA HAS SHARED WITH MADAM PRESIDENT AND VICE PRESIDENT THE GENERAL'S PHONE NUMBER FOR THE NATIONAL GUARD. IF ANY COUNCILOR WANTS TO SPEAK WITH THEM, WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT'S ACCESSIBLE. IF YOU DON'T MIND SHARING THAT CONTACT INFORMATION WITH THE OTHER COUNCILORS. PAUSE WE -- BECAUSE WE ENCOURAGE ANYONE TO WALK WITH THE NATIONAL GUARD AS OUR PARTNERS AND THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE AS THE COMMANDER AND CHIEF OF THE NATIONAL GUARD. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE EXTENDED THAT INFORMATION. THE CHIEF SHARED HE HAD DONE SO PRIOR TO THE MEETING. AND YOU ALL CAN HAVE THAT INFORMATION. TONIGHT. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU. COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. FIRST OF ALL, I JUST WANTED TO START BY SAYING THAT WE NEED TO REMEMBER THAT THE MAYOR DID NOT GIVE COUNCILORS THE COURTESY TO CONTACT US IN REFERENCE TO SEEING IF THE NATIONAL GUARD WAS NECESSARY. AND WE ALSO DIDN'T GET CONTACTED TO SEE OR EVEN TALK TO THE NATIONAL GUARD OR SEE HOW THEY FEEL ABOUT BEING TAKEN OUT OF THEIR ORIGINAL MISSION AND BEING UTILIZED AS POLICE SERVICE AIDS BECAUSE THAT'S ALL THE TRAINING THEY RECEIVED. I THINK THESE INDIVIDUALS DESERVE WAY MORE RESPECT THAN WHAT THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE IS GIVING THEM. I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I WISH WE COULD DO BETTER FOR OUR PEOPLE IN UNIFORM. IN REFERENCE TO THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE. I GOT A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. THEY FOLLOW ALONG WITH SOME OTHER QUESTIONS THE COUNCILORS ASKED. HOW DID THESE INDIVIDUALS -- HOW DO THE NATIONAL GUARD MEMBERS ACTUALLY GET TRANSPORTED TO THE CRIME SCENE? ARE THEY PAIRED UP WITH OFFICERS? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, THEY WILL DO A TRAINING PERIOD WHERE THEY WILL RIDE WITH PSAs AND OFFICERS TO GO TO SCENES. HOWEVER, THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME VEHICLES PROVIDED TO THEM. POLICE SERVICE AID VEHICLES WE HAVE. THEY WILL BE ISSUED. THEY WERE TRAINED WITH CITY OPERATOR PERMIT TO DRIVE A CITY VEHICLE. THEY WILL BE ABLE TO OPERATE A PSA VEHICLE. THEY CAN DRIVE TO THE SCENE. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: DO THEY WEAR BOD -- BODY ARMOR? >> YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: HOW ARE THEY HELPING WHEN THEY HAVE DOWN? WHAT'S THEIR ROLE? LIKE A REGULAR POLICE OFFICER HAS A ROLE, TO CONTINUE TO WORK AND BE PROACTIVE AND BE OUT THERE DOING THINGS. JUST LIKE A PSA WOULD HAVE. ARE THERE ROLES DEFINED IN REF RENES TO WHAT REFERENCE TO WHAT THEIR JOB DESCRIPTION IS WHEN THEY'RE NOT BEING UTILIZED? >> GOOD QUESTION. THE PRIMARY GOAL IS GOING TO BE RESPONSE. THEY WILL BE A REACTIVE THING WHERE THEY COME TO THOSE PARTICULAR TYPES OF SCENES. WHEN THOSE ARE NOT AROUND, THEY HAVE THE EYE AND HERE'S TO SEE WHAT'S GOING ON AND RADIO COMMUNICATION TO REPORT THINGS HAPPENING. IF THEY SEE CERTAIN CRIMES OCCURRING, THEY CAN RADIO IT IN. RATHER THAN WAITING FOR CALL FOR SERVICE TO COME IN FROM 911 OR 242-COPS. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: HOW ARE WE DOCUMENTING THIS? HOW ARE WE DOCUMENTING THE ACTION? FOR EXAMPLE, IF THERE'S AN ACTUAL CRIME SCENE, AND THERE'S AN ISSUE THAT HAPPENS THEY NEED TO BE RESPONDING TO, HOW ARE WE GOING TO DOCUMENT HOW MANY OFFICERS THEY WERE ABLE TO RELIEVE? AND IS THAT GOING TO -- THESE NATIONAL GUARD MEMBERS, ARE THEY GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT OFFICERS ARE GOING TO BE MORE PROACTIVE ON THE STREETS SO WE SHOULD SEE MORE PROACTIVE POLICE RESPONSES? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, THAT'S THE GOAL. ULTIMATELY FREE UP THE OFFICERS TO BE PROACTIVE AND HANDLE THE CALLS FOR SERVICE AS THEY COME IN TO REDUCE THE RESPONSE TIMES. WITH THAT, AS FAR AS DOCUMENTING, THAT WILL BE THROUGH CALLS FOR SERVICE THROUGH THE CAD SYSTEM. IT WILL BE MARKED IF THEY WENT TO THAT CALL AND IF THEY HELD PERIMETER OR FREED UP AN OFFICER TO GO TO CALLS FOR SERVICE. THAT CAN BE TRACKED THROUGH CAD. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: EACH INDIVIDUAL WILL HAVE CALL SIGN AND THROUGH RADIO? >> AS FAR AS CALL TAG, I WOULD HAVE TO CIRCLE BACK. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THE REASON WHY I'M ASKING THAT IS BECAUSE EVERY SINGLE PERSON THAT IS OUT THERE THAT ACTUALLY HAS POLICE RESPONSIBILITY WHETHER THEY'RE A PSA OR POLICE OFFICER HAS ACCESS TO A RADIO AND DISPATCH SHOULD KNOW EXACTLY WHERE THEY ARE AT AND WHAT THEY'RE DOING AND ACCESS TO AN EMERGENCY BUT ON THE RADIO. -- BUTTON ON THE RADIO. >>COUN. BASSAN: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? COUNCILOR CHAMPINE. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: I WOULD REQUEST FOR A PRESENTATION IN MY DISTRICT. >>COUN. BASSAN: DR. SENGEL. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE, I THINK IT MAKES SENSE IF THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK TO THE NATIONAL GUARD. I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE SHARE THAT INFORMATION. SO WE CAN PROVIDE APPROPRIATE BRIEFINGS. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: THANK YOU. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR GROUT. COUNCILOR GROUT, YOU'RE MUTED. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. SORRY. THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS. I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS. I HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT SOMETHING ELSE. >>COUN. BASSAN: I THINK THAT WE'RE DONE WITH APD FOR NOW. THANK YOU. COUNCILOR GROUT, GO AHEAD. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. MY QUESTIONS ARE FOR HHH. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, DEPUTY DIRECTOR MONTOYA IS HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE THIS EVENING. IN MAY OF -- MY QUESTIONS ARE ABOUT THE CITY OWNED LAND FOR HOUSING DEVELOPMENT. IN MAY, YOU PUT OUT AN RFI FOR DEVELOPERS TO PARTNER ON BUILDING AFFORDABLE HOUSING ON CITY OWNED LAND. I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS. I DID GET THESE TO YOU BEFORE. HOW ARE YOU ALL DEFINING AFFORDABLE? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALLOWING US TO SPEAK ON THIS SUBJECT. THERE HAS BEEN SOME ISSUES. WE APPRECIATE YOUR ASKING THESE QUESTIONS. AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS DEFINED BY THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE AS HOUSEHOLDS OF 80% OF THE MEDIAN INCOME AND THEY CAN'T PAY 30% TOWARD HOUSING. WE RECEIVED NEW INFORMATION LAST WEEK, AS AN EXAMPLE, WE HAVE A HOUSEHOLD OF FOUR OF $73,000. THAT'S TWO FOLKS INCOME. >>COUN. GROUT: OKAY. HOW LONG WILL RENT BE CONTROLLED FOR THE DEVELOPERS? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR, IN ALL OF OUR DEVELOPMENTS WE HAVE A 30-YEAR PERIOD OF AFFORDABILITY. >>COUN. GROUT: OKAY. IS THERE A REQUIREMENT FOR THE NUMBER OF UNITS THAT MUST BE AFFORDABLE? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR, FOR THESE PARTICULAR RFIs, I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY. WE'RE NOT ASKING DEVELOPERS TO ACTUALLY DO ANY DEVELOPMENT. THIS IS NOT RFP. THIS PARTICULAR RFI IS ASKING IF THERE'S DEVELOPERS INTERESTED IN PROVIDING AFFORDABLE HOUSING OPPORTUNITY. I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION. I'M AWARE OF THAT. LOTS OF QUESTIONS WE HAVE, I KNOW YOU KNOW THAT. IF IT'S MIXED, WHAT'S THE MANDATORY RATIO? >> IN THESE PARTICULAR LOTS THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT, THERE'S PRIMARILY SINGLE FAMILY LOTS. THERE WOULDN'T BE A MIXTURE. IT WOULD BE ONE HOUSE PER LOT. THEREFORE, 100% WOULD BE MEETING HOUSING STANDARDS. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. WILL THERE BE ON-SITE MANAGER OR MANAGEMENT? >> PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR, WE DON'T HAVE RENTAL ACTIVITIES. ALTHOUGH, THERE MIGHT BE IN TERMS OF INFORMATION. THIS WOULD BE HOMEOWNERSHIP OPPORTUNITY SO THERE WOULDN'T BE A RENTAL MANAGER. >>COUN. GROUT: IS AFFORDABILITY BEING OFFSET BY OTHER FUNDING SUCH AS FROM HUD? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR, IN THIS CASE WE HAVE DISCUSSED -- THIS IS AN RFI FOR INFORMATION. WE DON'T HAVE ONGOING FUNDS COMING. IF IN FACT WE DO PUT THESE PROPERTIES TO AN RFP. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. I KNOW THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO GET INFORMATION. SO ARE WE. I AGREE. IT'S ALL GOOD. THE MORE COMMUNICATION THE BETTER. DO ANY CITY OWNED PROPERTIES HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE RFP OR RFI PROCESS? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR, YES. TO BE CLEAR, THERE'S NO MANDATORY ORDINANCE FOR RFI. WE'RE JUST LOOKING FOR INFORMATION. HOWEVER, IN THE FUTURE, IF WE DO HAVE THESE PROPERTIES AND WE PUT THEM TO RFP THE MANNERISM BY WHICH WE IDENTIFY THE DEVELOPERS THAT ARE APPROPRIATE FOR A SPECIFIC TYPE OF HOUSING HAVE TO GO THROUGH AN RFP PROCESS. THAT IS MANDATORY BY ORDINANCE. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. ARE WE REQUIRING A PERFORMA FROM THE RESPONDENT TO SHOW DEVELOPERS CAN AFFORD TO MAINTAIN PROPERTIES AND KEEP THEM AFFORDABLE FOR TENANTS? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR, AGAIN, THOSE ARE REQUESTING INFORMATION. HOWEVER, WHEN WE DO PUT OUT RFP, YES, THERE'S MANDATORY FISCAL ISSUES WE LOOK FOR. SUCH THINGS LIKE A PROFIT AND LOSS SYSTEM, SOURCES AND USES STATEMENT AUDIT. WE HAVE A WHOLE HOST OF DIFFERENT FINANCIAL TOOLS THAT WE LOOK AT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE DEVELOPER HAS THE ABILITY TO NOT ONLY BUILD THE DEVELOPMENT BUT SUBSIDIZE THE DEVELOPMENT AND KEEP IT AFFORDABLE. AND IT'S A HOMEOWNERSHIP, MAKE SURE PEOPLE ARE WITHIN THE HOMEOWNERSHIP ARE -- >>COUN. GROUT: VERY GOOD. THANK YOU FOR THOSE ANSWERS. ARE WE ALSO OFFERING TAX ABATEMENT? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR, TO MY KNOWLEDGE, THERE'S ONLY ONE PROPERTY THAT'S ACTUALLY IN AN MRA. THAT WOULD BE THE ONLY ONE WHERE THEY'RE MIGHT BE DOING TAX ABATEMENT. WE DIVIDED THE LOTS AVAILABLE. SO THE LOTS AVAILABLE AND UNDER THE MRA MAY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A TAX ABATEMENT. AND THAT HASN'T BEEN DISCUSSED AT THIS TIME. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. TWO MORE QUESTIONS. WHAT LENGTHS OF TIME FOR THE TAX ABATEMENT ON MRA PROPERTY? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, I BELIEVE IT'S A 7-YEAR PERIOD OF TIME. >>COUN. GROUT: I THINK THAT'S THE RIGHT ANSWER. I THINK THAT'S WHAT I UNDERSTAND AS WELL. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE. IS THAT A STATE-MANDATED OR CITY ORDINANCE? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR, I DON'T KNOW. >>COUN. GROUT: OKAY. I'M THINKING IT'S A STATE MANDATED. WE'LL LOOK INTO THAT. THANK YOU FOR THOSE ANSWERS. IT HELPS US FIND OUT ALL THE INFORMATION WE NEED. THANK YOU SO MUCH. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR, IF YOU HAVE OTHER QUESTIONS, DO YOU MIND IF WE GO TO COUNCILOR ROGERS FOR HHH? >>COUN. GROUT: OF COURSE. GO AHEAD. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I'M EXCITED TO SEE THIS. THIS IS SOMETHING I'VE BEEN TALKING TO ADMINISTRATION FOR A YEAR. AND HAVE SOMETHING INTRODUCED TO COME UP WITH OUR OWN FIXED PRICE PROGRAM SIMILAR TO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE. MY BIG QUESTION IS FOR HOMEOWNERSHIP. THAT'S WHY I'M MOST EXCITED. THIS IS NOT RENTALS. THIS IS A WAY I FOUGHT HARD IN HOUSING FORWARD WHEN THEY WORKED FOR THE MAYOR TO ADD AFFORDABLE HOMEOWNERSHIP OPTIONS. MY QUESTION IS HOW ARE WE GOING TO MAKE SURE THE FOLKS WHO GET THIS LAND EITHER VERY CHEAP OR DONATED THROUGH THE RFP PROCESS DON'T TURN AROUND AND CHARGE THE HOMEOWNER ON TOP OF THE BUILDING FOR THE LAND THEY DIDN'T PAY FOR. IT'S NOT AFFORDABLE OWNERSHIP. HOW DO WE PLAN FOR THAT IN THESE CONTRACT FOR THE DEVELOPERS THAT BUILD THE HOMES THAT THEY'RE NOT CHARGING THE POOR FOLKS WHO ARE BUYING FOR LAND THEY DID NOT PAY FOR? >> THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. IT'S THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING ACT. IT'S NOT FREE MONEY ACT. ITS ACTUALLY AFFORDABLE HOUSING. WE HAVE TO ASSURE THAT THE END PRODUCT IS TAKEN CARE OF. MEANING A PERSONAL INCOME ONLY PAYS THE AMOUNT THEY'RE BEING PAID FOR. NOW, WHAT WE DO IS MAKE SURE WE'RE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING ACT. IT'S ASSET BASE. LET'S SAY IT'S LAND AND WE HAVE TWO SIGN UP FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING. WHAT WE DO IS MONETIZE THE VALUE OF THE LAND AND OF COURSE WE -- IF THERE'S FUNDS IN IT, THEN WE PUT A SECOND ON THE PROPERTY. THAT SECOND IS TRANSFERRED NOT ONLY TO THE DEVELOPER, BUT THE HOMEOWNER SO WE ASSURE LONG-TERM AFFORDABILITY AND MAKE SURE WE HAVE CONTROL OVER AFFORDABILITY OF THAT. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU. THAT'S WHAT I WAS WORRIED ABOUT. ADDING A SECOND MORTGAGE TO A FIRST-TIME HOME BUYER WHO IS ALREADY LOWCOME WORRIES ME. I WANT TO LEARN MORE. TONIGHT IS NOT THE PLACE. PART OF MY RESOLUTION THAT WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT SOON TALKS ABOUT PUTTING TOGETHER A PROGRAM LIKE THIS, THINKING OF ALL THESE THINGS WE CAN DO TOGETHER TO GET OTHER FOLKS TO BE ABLE TO HELP US WITH HOUSING. ESPECIALLY WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE ADAPT PROGRAM AND LIST. I WOULD LOVE TO LEARN MORE ABOUT THIS AS A PART OF THAT TOO. >>COUN. BASSAN: DR. SENGEL. >> I JUST QUICKLY WANTED TO ANSWER COUNCILOR GROUT'S QUESTION. THE SEVEN YEAR REQUIREMENT IS A STATE REQUIREMENT. HOPEFULLY YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO A BUNCH MORE RESEARCH. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR GROUT, WE'RE BACK ON YOU. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR HHH. I JUST HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS FOR PARKS. >> DIRECTOR SIMON IS HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. >>COUN. BASSAN: GOOD EVENING, DIRECTOR. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. THANK YOU, DIRECTOR FOR BEING HERE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PICTURES TODAY. WE HAD SEVERAL CONSTITUENTS REACH OUT TO US. SOME PARKS HAVEN'T BEEN MOWED. THERE'S LOT OF WEEDS IN THEM. THEY WERE BROWN FOR A VERY LONG TIME. I PERSONALLY SAW THEM THAT WAY. NOW, CAN YOU -- TELL ME, WHAT'S THE SCHEDULE FOR MOWING THEM AND KEEPING THEM TRIMMED AND ALL OF THAT? >> OKAY. MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, FIRST OF ALL, I APOLOGIZE FOR MY TIRED VOICE. THAT SHOULD HELP ME STOP MANSPLAINING TOO MUCH. WHEN IT COMES TO MOWING, THE PARKS ARE ON A WEEKLY MOW SCHEDULE. FROM TIME TO TIME, A MOW SCHEDULE CAN BE INTERRUPTED BY WEATHER. SHORTAGE OF STAFF. OR THE NEED TO DIVERT PEOPLE TO A MORE URGENT MAINTENANCE SITUATION. OCCASIONALLY, WE WILL LOSE A WEEK. IT'S NOT THE GOAL. BUT MOST OF THE PARKS ARE ON A ONCE A WEEK MOW SCHEDULE. YOUR PARKS ARE GENERALLY ON A WEDNESDAY, THURSDAY SCHEDULE. >>COUN. GROUT: VERY GOOD. HOW ABOUT WEEDS? HOW ARE THEY CONTROLLED? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, WEED CONTROL IS A COMPLICATED SUBJECT. REALLY, I'LL JUST SAY TO DO IT EFFECTIVELY, THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS STRONG TURF. WEEDS ARE PLANTS THAT OCCURRING NATURALLY THAT WE MAY NOT WANT THEM IN THAT PLACE. IN GENERAL, THE STRONGEST DEFENSE FOR WEEDS IS A STRONG OFFENSE, WHICH IS HEALTHY GRASS. NOW, IT'S CHALLENGING TO GROW HEALTHY GRASS. WE CAN'T DO IT WITHOUT LOT OF WATER AND INPUT. WEED CONTROL, IDEALLY, HAS TO BE A YEAR ROUND EFFORT. I WOULD SAY THAT IN ADDITION TO ALL THE OTHER THINGS YOU HAVE TO DO AT PARKS, THE FALL IS A TIME WHEN WE WOULD APPLY TO INTERRUPT THE CYCLE OF WEEDS. AND AGAIN IN THE SPRING, RESOURCES PERMITTING, APPLY OTHER WEED CONTROL STRATEGIES. THE -- IT'S AWFULLY HARD TO DO THESE THINGS AFTER THE SPRING BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT OF HAND LABOR INVOLVED. SOME WEEDS ARE BETTER CONTROLLED BY HAND, BUT IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE ADEQUATE LABOR TO DO THAT IT CAN BECOME CHALLENGING. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. WERE YOU ABLE TO USE -- CONTROL THOSE WEEDS THIS SPRING? DID YOU HAVE THE RESOURCES TO DO THAT? >> WE DID GET A LOT OF PREMERGENT DOWN. I THINK THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO BETTER. AND WEEDS ALSO GROW ON WE'RE SOIL. IF YOU HAVE BARE SOIL THEY WILL TAKE ROOT. WE'RE REFINING OUR PROCESSES AND THEY HAVE TO OCCUR YEAR ROUND. AND ALL OF THE RIGHT LABOR AND TIME TO GET ALL THE WORK DONE. SOME OF THEM ARE JUST AWFULLY TOUGH TO GET OUT AT CERTAIN TIMES OF YEAR. >>COUN. GROUT: YES, THEY ARE. ONE FINAL QUESTION. DO YOU HAVE -- ARE YOU FULLY STAFFED TO TAKE CARE OF THE PARKS? >> I THINK, THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, I APPRECIATE THE QUESTION. AND THE INTEREST IN US HAVING ADEQUATE STAFFING. I THINK WE ARE STILL FACING SOME CHALLENGES FROM THE LABOR MARKET THAT ARE MAKING IT MORE DIFFICULT FOR US. I THINK HISTORICALLY DEPENDING ON STAFFING AND LABOR, WE WOULD TYPICALLY HIRE ANYWHERE FROM AROUND 40 TO 60 TEMPORARY EMPLOYEES FOR THE SUMMER. RIGHT NOW, WE ACTUALLY HAVE UNDER 20 OF THOSE TEMPS DUE TO TURNOVER. APPLICATIONS ARE DOWN. TURNOVER IS HIGHER IN THE TEMPORARY POSITIONS WHICH END UP BEING ON THE LOWER END OF THE PAY SCALE. IT HAS GOTTEN MORE CHALLENGING THROUGH LARGE-SCALE IMPACTS AND CONDITIONS IN THE LABOR MARKET AND WHAT WE SEE LOCALLY. WE'RE AGGRESSIVELY TRYING TO RECRUIT EMPLOYEES EVERY DAY. AND WE COULD USE MORE OF THEM. ANYONE WHO WANTS A JOB, WE CAN GIVE YOU ONE. >>COUN. GROUT: I HAVE ONE FOLLOW UP T THAT. WHEN YOU SAY TEMPORARY, IS THAT A FULL-TIME JOB FOR SIX MONTHS SPH. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT YES. WE BRING ON TEMPORARY SEASONAL LABOR IT IS FULL-TIME POSITIONS. >>COUN. GROUT: OKAY. ANYBODY LISTENING, WE'RE HIRING AT PARKS. WE NEED TO KEEP THOSE PARKS CLEAN AND BEAUTIFUL FOR EVERYBODY TO ENJOY. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU FOR THOSE ANSWERS. I APPRECIATE IT. >> YOU'RE WELCOME. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR GROUT, DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR OTHER DEPARTMENTS? >>COUN. GROUT: NO, MA'AM. >>COUN. BASSAN: DIRECTOR, BEFORE YOU GO. COUNCILOR ROGERS. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I WONDERER HOW DO THOSE POSITIONS BE CROSS WOULD WITH THE BETTER WAY FORWARD PROGRAM? >> COUNCILOR ROGERS, I THINK THE BETTER WAY FORWARD PROGRAM HAS TARGETED FOCUS ON HOW THEY'RE EMPLOYING THE PARTICIPANTS IN THAT PROGRAM. I THINK THERE'S LOT OF NEED IN THE AREAS THEY'RE TARGETING THOSE EMPLOYEES. I WOULD HAVE TO DEFER TO THEM ON HOW THAT GROUP IS BEING UTILIZED. WE CAN ALWAYS USE MORE HELP. IF THERE'S MORE RESOURCES OR MORE PEOPLE AVAILABLE TO DO THE WORK, WE CAN PUT THEM TO WORK. THERE'S BEEN A FOCUS OF STANDING THAT UP ON A SET OF RULES FOR THE CITY. >>COUN. ROGERS: I THINK THE NEEDS OF CLEANING UP PARKS ARE LAX. WE SHOULD TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AND SEE HOW WE COULD PROCESS THOSE PROGRAMS SUPPLEMENT YOUR TEMPORARY VACANCIES. >>COUN. BASSAN: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FOR THE ADMINISTRATION? THANK YOU, DIRECTOR. THANK YOU, EVERYONE. THERE BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS, THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED.