>>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON, THIS IS THE 44th MEETING OF THE 24th COUNCIL. ALL COUNCILORS APPEAR TO BE PRESENT. THERE MIGHT BE A FEW THAT ARE TARDY. THEY'LL JOIN US SHORTLY. I WOULD LIKE TO START OUR MEETING WITH A MOMENT OF SILENCE. I WOULD LIKE TO REFLECT, COUNCILORS, ON THE RECENT ELECTION. I HOPE THAT WE JUST PRAY FOR PEACE IN OUR CITY AND I WISH THE NEW COUNCILORS SUCCIN THEIR ENDEAVORS. WE ARE CONTRIBUTING OUR TIME. IT'S DIFFICULT THAT IT'S NOT ALWAYS WHAT WE WISH FOR. I HOPE YOUR NEW COUNCILORS GET OUR CRIME UNDER CONTROL. I PRAY FOR PEACE IN OUR CITY. JOIN ME FOR A MOMENT OF SILENCE IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE. THANK YOU, COUNCILORS. IS COUNCILOR HARRIS WITH US? COUNCILOR HARRIS? I DON'T SEE COUNCILOR HARRIS WITH US YET. I'M SURE HE'LL BE JOINING US MOMENTARILY. WITH THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK COUNCILOR SENA, WOULD YOU LIKE TO START THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE IN ENGLISH? >>COUN. SENA: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. >>ALL: I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR. COUNCILOR DAVIS, WOULD YOU LIKE TO JOIN US FOR PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE IN SPANISH? >>COUN. DAVIS: I'LL DO MY BEST. [ RECITING THE PLEDGE IN SPANISH ]. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR. COUNCILORS PLURAL. I'M GOING TO READ SOME INFORMATION INTO THE RECORD. I'M SURE THAT ALL COUNCILORS ARE A LITTLE EXHAUSTED FROM YESTERDAY. WE'RE GOING TO TRY AND MOVE OUR MEETING ALONG AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. FOR THE PUBLIC'S INFORMATION, I'D LIKE TO READ THIS INFORMATION INTO THE RECORD. AS NOTED IN A PRESS RELEASE FROM OUR OFFICE ON FRIDAY, POSTED ON THE WEBSITE AND NOTICED ON THE COUNCIL AGENDA THIS MEETING HAS SPECIAL PROCEDURES AND IS BEING HELD VIA ZOOM VIDEO CONFERENCE. THE PUBLIC, STAFF, MEDIA HAVE THE ABILITY TO VIEW THIS MEETING LIVE THROUGH FOUR DIFFERENT PLATFORMS, GOVTV, YOU TUBE, ZOOM WEBINAR. THEY CAN BE ACCESSED FROM SMART PHONES, TABLETS AND COMPUTERS. THIS MEETING IS CLOSED CAPTIONED, YOU MAY ENABLE CLOSED CAPTIONING AT THIS TIME. FOR THOSE WATCHING ON THE LIVE STREAM, WE THANK YOU FOR JOINING US. THE VIDEO RECORDING OF THIS AND ALL PAST COUNCIL MEETING WILL ALSO REMAIN AVAILABLE FOR VIEWING AT ANY TIME ON THE COUNCIL WEBSITE. THAT IS ACCESSIBLE VIA CABQ.CITY COUNCIL. COUNCIL STAFF IS AVAILABLE VIA TELEPHONE IF MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC NEED ASSISTANCE. CALL 505-768-3100 DURING BUSINESS HOURS, MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY 8 A.M. TO 5 P.M. THE COUNCIL IS ACCEPTING LIVE GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT AND ANY WRITTEN COMMENTS. WRITTEN COMMENTS RECEIVED BY 1 A.M. WERE DISTRIBUTED TO ALL OF THE COUNCILORS IN ADVANCE OF TODAY'S MEETING. COUNCILORS DID RECEIVE ALL OF THAT INFORMATION FOR TODAY. WITH THAT, COUNCILORS, WE'LL START OUR ITEM NUMBER THREE WHICH IS PROCLAMATIONS AND PRESENTATIONS. THIS AFTERNOON I'LL READ A PROCLAMATION TO OUR VETERANS IN HONOR OF VETERAN'S DAY THIS MONTH. WE HAVE WITH US THE NEW MEXICO STATE CABINET SECRETARY SMITH. GOOD AFTERNOON, HOW ARE YOU? IT'S GREAT TO SEE YOU. WE ALL GET TOGETHER FOR LUNCH, I HOPE. SHE IS NEW MEXICO DEPARTMENT OF VETERANS SERVICES CABINET SECRETARY. SHE WILL BE ACCEPTING OUR PROCLAMATION TODAY. WITH THAT, COUNCILORS, I'M GOING TO READ THE PROCLAMATION INTO THE RECORD. THAT'S THE ONLY PROCLAMATION WE HAVE. I BELIEVE THE ONLY PRESENTATION, ALSO. COULD YOU PUT THAT ON THE SCREEN? OTHERWISE I HAVE TO TOGGLE BACK AND FORTH. THANK YOU SO MUCH. I'LL START. WHEREAS THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA HOLDS FIRMLY TO THE BELIEF THAT ALL CITIZENS ARE GUARANTEED INALIENABLE RIGHTS OF LIFE, LIBERTY, AND PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS. WHEREAS THE AMERICAN FREEDOM REQUIRES PROTECTION AND VIGILANCE BY THE NATION'S MILITARY MEN AND WOMEN WHO SACRIFICE TO PRESERVE AND PROTECT OUR NATION AND ITS FREEDOM FROM BOTH FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC ENEMYS. AND WHEREAS ON NOVEMBER 11, 1918 AT 11 A.M. THE UNITED STATES AND ALLIES SIGNED THE ARMISTICE AGREEMENT ENDING WORLD WAR I, A WAR THAT WAS HARD ON AMERICAN, CANADIAN FAMILIES. AND WHEREAS IN 1926 THE UNITED STATES FEDERAL GOVERNMENT RECOGNIZED VETERAN'S DAY OCCURRING EVERY YEAR ON NOVEMBER 11 AS A NATIONAL HOLIDAY IN HONOR OF THOSE BRAVE SOLDIERS ON LAND, SEA, PRESIDENT WILSON STATED TO US IN AMERICA THE REFLECTION OF ARMISTICE DAY WILL BE FILLED WITH SOLEMN PRIDE OF THE HEROISM OF THOSE THAT DIED AND GRATITUDE FOR THE VICTORY. AND WHEREAS MILITARY STAY IN NEW MEXICO AND PROVIDE VITAL CIVIC, ECONOMIC CONTRIBUTES THROUGHOUT THE GREAT STATE OF NEW MEXICO. AND WHEREAS SINCE THE GLOBAL WAR OF TERROR, 3.3 MILLION VETERANS HAVE SERVED IN THE U.S. MILITARY. AND WHEREAS, AS OF 2021 THERE ARE 19 MILLION U.S. VETERANS AND 1.4 MILLION ACTIVE DUTY MILITARY SERVICE MEMBERS LIVING IN THE U.S. OR DEPLOYED IN MORE THAN 150 COUNTRIES. AND WHEREAS, WOMEN VETERANS DEMONSTRATE COMMENDABLE BRAVERY, SKILL, UNDER TIMES OF HARDSHIP AND SERVICE AND REPRESENT A SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF THE ARMED FORCES. AND WHEREAS HUNDREDS OF VETERANS ARE TURNING HOME TO NEW MEXICO AS THE UNITED STATES PREPARE TO BRING HOME FORCES FROM AFGHANISTAN. THE VETERANS ARE URGED TO APPLY FOR THE PROGRAMS THEY EARNED. BE IT PROCLAIMED THE CITY COUNCIL RECOGNIZES THE VETERANS AND THE FREEDOM THEY PRESERVE FOR THE COUNTRY, STATE AND MUNICIPALITY. THIS IS FOR NOVEMBER 11. THIS IS A LITTLE EARLY, COUNCILORS. I WANT TO THANK ALL OF THE COUNCILORS FOR SIGNING THIS PROCLAMATION. AT THIS POINT, I'D LIKE TO TURN IT OVER TO CABINET SECRETARY SMITH. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH, COUNCILOR BORREGO. I APPRECIATE THIS OPPORTUNITY AND THANK YOU TO THE OTHER COUNCILORS AS WELL. ON BEHALF OF THE 150,000 VETERANS THAT YOU MENTIONED IN THAT BEAUTIFUL PROCLAMATION, THANK YOU FOR RECOGNIZING THE MEN AND WOMEN WHO WERE CALLED TO SERVE AND THEY SERVED. WE ALSO WANT TO RECOGNIZE THE FAMILIES THAT SUPPORT THEM AS WELL. HERE AT THE DEPARTMENT OF VETERANS SERVICES EVERY DAY IS VETERAN'S DAY FOR US. IT IS A GREAT HONOR THAT WE SERVE IN THIS POSITION AND WE REALLY RECOGNIZE AND HONOR TO HAVE THE SUPPORT OF THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE IN ALL OF OUR EFFORTS. WE KNOW THERE IS A LARGE PART OF THE VETERANS RESIDE IN ALBUQUERQUE. YOU DO A WONDERFUL JOB AS A CITY MAKING SURE THEY'RE TAKEN CARE OF AND I BELIEVE OUR PARTNERSHIP WILL ONLY GET STRONGER IN THIS EFFORT. I CAN GO ON AND ON BUT YOU HAVE BUSINESS TO TAKE CARE OF. THANK YOU SO MUCH FROM US HERE AT THE DEPARTMENT OF VETERAN SERVICES AND ALSO FROM OUR GOVERNOR AS WELL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, CABINET SECRETARY SMITH. WOULD ANY COUNCILORS LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CABINET SECRETARY? COUNCILOR GIBSON, I THINK I HEARD YOU. >>COUN. GIBSON: THANK YOU. JUST VERY BRIEFLY, I'D LIKE TO THANK MS. SMITH FOR HER WORK AND FOR MAKING EVERY DAY VETERAN'S DAY. THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO FOR OUR VETERANS HERE. THAT'S IT. I JUST APPRECIATE YOU VERY MUCH. YOU AND YOUR DEPARTMENT. >> THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH. IT DOESN'T FEEL LIKE WORK AT ALL. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, WE APPRECIATE ALL OF THE WORK YOU DO FOR OUR GREAT STATE AND OUR COUNTRY. OUR VETERANS, WE APPRECIATE THEM. >> THEY'RE A GREAT GROUP OF PEOPLE. AS IT GOES, I'M SURE YOU HAVE BUSINESS TO DO. I DO AS WELL. THANK YOU FOR THE PROCLAMATION. I SEE SOME OF MY FRIENDS ARE HERE. THANK YOU. TAKE CARE. BE SAFE. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU. >> HUG A VETERAN. SAFELY. SIX FEET APART. BYE. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU. THAT YOU HAPPENING FOR MAKING US SMILE TODAY. WE WILL MOVE ON, COUNCILORS TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DISCUSSION, THERE'S NONE. WITH THAT, WE'LL MOVE ON TO OUR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. BEFORE WE PROCEED WITH OUR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT, I'M JUST FOR THE RECORD GOING TO READ INFER. AGE INFORMATION. I WANT TO SAY HELLO TO THOSE IN TV LAND. WE'RE STILL DOING ZOOM MEETINGS UNFORTUNATELY. HOPEFULLY IN THE NEAR FUTURE WE'LL WORK LESS REMOTELY AND MORE IN LIVE PERSON. WE ARE -- YOU WILL BE PROVIDING LIVE PUBLIC COMMENT TODAY. FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO SIGNED UP. WRITTEN COMMENTS WERE DISTRIBUTED TO THE COUNCILORS IN THE ADVANCE OF TODAY'S MEETING. MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WILL BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL IF THEY HAVE SIGNED UP FOR LIVE PUBLIC COMMENT PER INSTRUCTIONS PUBLISHED ON THE AGENDA AND ON OUR WEBSITE ON FRIDAY. SPEAKERS WILL BE MOVED INTO THE ROOM TWO AT A TIME AND HAVE THEIR CAMERAS OFF UNTIL THEY'RE CALLED TO SPEAK. AT WHICH POINT THEY CAN TURN ON THEIR CAMERA, UNMUTE THEMSELVES AND HAVE ONE AND A HALF MINUTES TO PROVIDE TO CITY COUNCIL. AFTER THAT THEY WILL BE UNMUTED AND RETURN TO BE AN ATTENDEE. HERE ARE THE PUBLIC GROUND RULES. EACH PARTICIPANT HAS ONE AND A HALF MINUTES TO PRESENT. COMMENTS ARE TO BE ADDRESSED TO THE COUNCILORS THROUGH THE COUNCIL PRESIDENT. ANY DISRUPTIVE COMMENTS OR CONDUCT WILL RESULT IN REMOVAL FROM THE ZOOM WEBINAR. HOW MANY SPEAKERS DO WE HAVE TODAY? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, WE HAVE FOUR PEOPLE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. SO FAR, TWO OF THEM HAVE JOINED THE MEETING. >>COUN. BORREGO: WITH THAT, WE WILL PROCEED WITH THE TWO THAT ARE AVAILABLE. I WOULD ASK COUNCILORS IF YOU WOULD MUTE YOURSELF. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. OUR FIRST SPEAKER IS VERONICA HERMAN. FEEL FREE TO UNMUTE YOURSELF, YOUR TIME WILL BEGIN WHEN YOU START SPEAKING. IF YOU CAN UNMUTE YOURSELF. >> OKAY, HI. THANK YOU, EVERYBODY, FOR LETTING ME SPEAK. I DID SEND MY CONCERNS IN YOUR EMAIL. THIS IS MY FIRST MEETING IN CITY COUNCIL. I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT YOU GUYS DO AND THE INSTRUCTIONS. I'M THE DIRECTOR OF OPERATION -- ON WILSON DRIVE. I'M NOT SURE IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE AREA. WE'RE NEXT TO RUDY'S BARBECUE. IN JUNE, I COME FROM ARIZONA. FIRST AS A MANAGER. WHAT CONCERNS ME IS WE HAVE SO MANY ISSUES WITH HOMELESS FOLKS COMING THROUGH. I'M NOT SURE IF THE CLINIC THAT IS IN FRONT OF US HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH IT OR YOU'RE RIGHT OFF THE 40. IT'S PEOPLE LOITERING. I HAVE CAUGHT YOUNG PEOPLE DOING DRUGS. I FIND NEEDLES ON THE PROPERTY. WE'RE AN EXTENDED STAY HOTEL. WE HAVE FAMILIES HERE WITH CHILDREN. IT'S NOW BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION ON A REGULAR BASIS THAT THEY DON'T FEEL SAFE. WE HAVE CARS STOLEN LAST WEEK. AT 11 O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING SOMEBODY WAS TRYING HANDLES. BY THE TIME I GOT TO HIM, AND I FOUND OUT WHO HE WAS, HE BROKE INTO THE CAR. I WAS TRYING TO KEEP HIM IN IT. >> THANK YOU, MA'AM. YOUR TIME IS UP. >> I'M SORRY. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS JOANY JONES. TURN YOUR VIDEO ON, UNMUTE YOURSELF, AND YOUR TIME WILL BEGIN WHEN YOU START SPEAKING. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, I'M THE GENERAL MANAGER AT THE CROWN PLAZA IN THE MID-TOWN AREA. I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TODAY. I NEVER THOUGHT ON A DAILY BASIS I WOULD HAVE TO APOLOGIZE FOR ALBUQUERQUE. AND THE MIDTOWN AREA. PAN HANDLING GUESTS, HOMELESSNESS TRASHING AND LOITERING AND CARS BEING BROKEN INTO AND STOLEN. PROPERTY SPENDS $20,000 A MONTH FOR SECURITY FOR GUESTS AND ASSOCIATES INSIDE AND OUT OF THE HOTEL. THAT'S STILL NOT ENOUGH MONEY SPENT. TOURISM IS ONE OF THE TOP THREE REVENUE GENERATORS FOR THE STATE OF NEW MEXICO. THE MIDTOWN AREA IS CONSIDERED THE HEART OF ALBUQUERQUE AND WITHIN THE CONCENTRATED AREA IN MIDTOWN THERE'S ROUGHLY 2,000 HOTEL AND MOTEL GUEST ROOMS WHICH ARE THE LARGEST CLUSTER OF GUEST ROOMS IN THE STATE OF NEW MEXICO. THE EXISTS FROM I25 TO MENAUL ARE CONFUSING. THEY DON'T APPEAR SAFE. THIS IS NOT THE IMPRESSION WE SHOULD HAVE ON THE FAMILIES AND TRAVELLERS THAT ARE DRIVING THROUGH OUR STATE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. >> THANK YOU. >>COUN. BORREGO: HAVE THE OTHER TWO PEOPLE JOINED US? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, NO. THAT WILL CONCLUDE GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU SO MUCH. WE APPRECIATE YOU, MR. MOYA. WITH THAT, WE'LL MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER FIVE. WHICH IS QUESTION AND ANSWER PERIOD. IT APPEARS THAT COUNCILOR JONES HAS A QUESTION. >>COUN. JONES: MADAM PRESIDENT, I DO NOT HAVE A QUESTION. >>COUN. BORREGO: YOU'RE ON THE SCRIPT WITH A QUESTION. >>COUN. JONES: I NEVER SUBMITTED A QUESTION. >>COUN. BORREGO: IF NOT, I'LL MOVE TO COUNCILOR BASSAN. COUNCILOR GIBSON. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES, MAYBE IT WOULD HELP FOR COUNCILOR JONES IT READS ON THE SCRIPT QUESTION FOR APD REGARDING THE SPEEDING STUDY ON MONTGOMERY AND PLANS TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR GIBSON. >>COUN. JONES: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR GIBSON. I OBVIOUSLY DO NOT HAVE THE MOST CURRENT SCRIPT. IF THE ADMINISTRATION WOULD LIKE TO ANSWER SOME QUESTIONS, WE'LL PRESENT THOSE TO THEM. >> MADAM CHAIR, WE'LL SEE WHAT ANSWERS WE CAN HAVE. I DON'T HAVE ANYONE HERE PART OF THE STUDY. I'M NOT SURE WHAT WE CAN BE ABLE TO PROVIDE. WE CAN PROVIDE AS MUCH INFORMATION AS POSSIBLE. >>COUN. JONES: THANK YOU. IF NEED BE, WE'LL ADDRESS THIS AT THE NEXT MEETING. THERE'S NO RUSH ON THIS. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR JONES. WE'LL MOVE TO COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS I WAS HOPING TO ASK REGARDING THE UPDATED ORDINANCE DEFINITIONS. I DO UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS SOMEWHAT VAGUE IN SOME OF THE POSSIBILITIES. AT THE SAME TIME UNDERSTANDING BUSINESSES DIFFER IN SIZE. HOW MUCH DO WE EXPECT THE COST FOR 4 MILLIMETERS. AND WHAT ARE THE THOUGHTS ON CLEANLINESS FROM USABLE VERSUS REUSABLE BAGS. >>COUN. BORREGO: MR. BRILLEN, ARE YOU AVAILABLE TO ANSWER THE QUESTION? IS ANYONE IN THE ADMINISTRATION AVAILABLE? >> I WAS MUTED. MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR BASSAN, THE FIRST PART OF YOUR QUESTION WAS HOW DOES IT AFFECT DIFFERENT SIZES OF BUSINESSES. WE REALLY DON'T KNOW YET BECAUSE WHEN THE INITIAL ORDINANCE WAS PUT INTO PLACE WE PUT IT INTO PLACE AND SIX WEEKS LATER WE HIT THE PANDEMIC AND WE WEREN'T ABLE TO DO THE STUDY REQUIRED BY THE ORDINANCE. IT REQUIRES US TO DO THE STUDY TO SEE THE EFFECTIVENESS AND ANALYZE HOW THE ORDINANCE EFFECTS ALL BUSINESSES AND WE WERE UNABLE TO DO THAT. NOW THAT WE'RE REENACTING THAT ORDINANCE WE'RE GOING TO BEGIN THE STUDY. WE CAN'T TELL YOU THE ANSWER AT THIS POINT. AS FAR AS CLEANLINESS, WHEN YOU BRING A REUSABLE BAG INTO A STORE USUALLY YOU BAG YOUR OWN GROCERYS. WHEN WE PUSHED PAUSE NO ONE KNEW WHAT THE PANDEMIC WAS. NOBODY HAD ANY CLUE WHAT WAS GOING ON. WE PUSHED PAUSE TO KEEP OUR FRONT LINE WORKERS SAFE DURING THE PANDEMIC AND LET THEM USE WHATEVER THEY NEEDED TO USE. NOW THAT WE KNOW WHAT IT IS AND WE WORKED WITH ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH WE FEEL LIKE USING YOUR OWN BAGS AND BAGGING YOUR OWN GROCERIES IS A SAFE METHOD TO CONTINUE FORWARD. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU, DIRECTOR. I HAVE A COUPLE MORE FOLLOW-UPS ON THAT PLEASE? >>COUN. BORREGO: GO AHEAD, COUNCILOR, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU. AS FAR AS THE STUDY, WE'RE IN 30 DAYS WE'RE GOING TO IMPLEMENT A NEW REQUIREMENT FOR A THICKNESS OF PLASTIC. WHAT I'M ENVISIONING, AND THIS IS ME WITH MY THOUGHTS AND I'M WILLING TO BE CORRECTED. THESE BUSINESSES HAVE PURCHASED THE THICKER PLASTIC. THEY'RE GOING TO GET RID OF THE THICKER PLASTIC THAT WE HAVE BEEN UTILIZING WHICH SOME LOOKED AT IT AS A LOOPHOLE. IS IT FOUR MILLIMETERS? IS IT GOING TO COST MORE? IS THAT SOMETHING WE WANT TO DO OUR BUSINESSES? AND TO LET YOU KNOW THIS IS RHETORICAL QUESTIONING AT THIS POINT. TO ME, WE HAVE BUSINESSES THAT FINANCIALLY RIGHT NOW, THAT'S A CHALLENGE. I'M CURIOUS TO LEARN MORE ABOUT THE AVAILABILITY OF FOUR MILL METER PLASTIC, IS THAT SOMETHING PRESENTED AS AN OPTION. IS THE STUDY GOING TO PRODUCE INFORMATION THAT WE'RE HOPING TO OBTAIN BARELY WHEN RIGHT NOW WE'RE STILL, WE JUST HAD OUR NEXT DECLARATION GIVEN OUT A WEEK OR SO AGO FOR THE EMERGENCY. IT'S STILL QUESTIONABLE, DO WE WANT PEOPLE BRINGING IN REUSABLE BAGS, WHICH SOME ARGUE ARE GROSS ANYWAY. I KNOW WHERE I GO WHEN PEOPLE BRING IN THE BAGS THE CHECKERS ARE STILL DOING THE BAGGING. THERE'S STILL HIGH AMOUNT OF BAGGING. IF WE PUT THAT ON BUSINESSES AND PREACHING EXTRA SAFETY, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT IT. >> COUNCILOR BASSAN, I THINK IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE NONE OF US SAW THIS COMING WHEN IT CAME TO THE PANDEMIC. WHEN THIS WAS INSTITUTED WE DIDN'T SEE THAT COMING. WE INSTITUTED THE NEW ORDINANCE AND WITHIN SIX WEEKS A LOT OF THE BIGGER BOX STORES HAD ALREADY HAD A LOOPHOLE TO IT. WE WEREN'T EVEN ABLE TO INSTITUTE IT AND STUDY IT ACCORD TO THE ORDINANCE. ACCORD TO THE ORDINANCE WE'RE TO INSTITUTE A DEFINITION, STUDY IT AND THERE'S A COMMITTEE TO BE CONVENED THAT CAN MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS BACK TO COUNCIL AND BACK TO THE ADMINISTRATION AS TO HOW TO TIGHTEN, STRENGTHEN OR LOOSEN THE ORDINANCE. WHEN IT COMES TO SAFETY WE'RE WORKING HAND IN HAND WITH THE ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH DEPARTMENT. AND WHEN IT COMES TO THE NEW DEFINITION YES THERE ARE FOUR MILL METER BAGS AVAILABLE. AND THERE ARE BAGS WITH HANDLING AVAILABLE. ALL THOSE THINGS HAVE BEEN MADE AVAILABLE. WE'RE NOT INSTITUTING SOMETHING WHERE IT'S UNOBTAINABLE. I THINK AS WE GO FORWARD WE CAN SEE WHAT WE CAN DO AND ACTUALLY DO THE STUDY AS INTENDED BY CITY COUNCIL PRIOR TO THE PANDEMIC. HAD THE PANDEMIC NOT HAPPENED, WE WOULD HAVE ALREADY HAD OUR STUDY DONE, THE RECOMMENDATIONS WOULD HAVE ALREADY BEEN MADE, AND THE DEFINITION PROBABLY WOULD HAVE BEEN CHANGED ALREADY. BECAUSE WE WEREN'T ABLE TO DO THAT, WE HAD TO PUSH PAUSE AND START OVER AND NOW WE'RE GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS PER THE ORDINANCE. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU, DIRECTOR. WHAT IS THE COST DIFFERENCE GENERALLY FOR THE BAGS? THAT'S GOING TO BE AT THE COST OF THE BUSINESS OWNER, CORRECT? >> IT REALLY ISN'T UP TO THE BUSINESS OWNER. FROM A SUSTAINABILITY STANDPOINT, AND SOLID WASTE STANTPOINT, THERE'S THREE THINGS WHEN IT COMES TO SUSTAINABILITY. WHEN IT COMES TO SUSTAINABILITY IT'S ALWAYS RECYCLE, REUSE OR REPURPOSE. IT'S ONE OF THE THINGS WHERE WE WANT PEOPLE TO REPURPOSE OR REUSE. RECYCLING IS REALLY ONE OF THE LAST THINGS WE WANT PEOPLE TO DO. THAT STILL TAKES THINGS OUT OF THE ENVIRONMENT. YOU NEED A TRUCK TO MOVE IT AND PROCESS IT. FOR US, WE WANT PEOPLE TO REUSE AND REPURPOSE ITEMS AND THAT'S WHAT WE WANT IS REUSING MORE THAN JUST HAVING A BAG GIVEN TO THEM. OR A BAG BEING PURCHASED WE WANT A REUSE OF THE BAGS YOU HAVE REPURPOSE THE ITEMS YOU HAVE. THAT IS THE ESSENCE OF SUSTAINABILITY. THERE'S A COST ASSOCIATED WITH IT. IF YOU BUY A BAG OR YOU'RE GIVEN A BAG, IF YOU BRING IT BACK TO THE STORE, THEN THE STORE DOESN'T HAVE TO GIVE YOU BAGS EVERY TIME YOU COME. >>COUN. BASSAN: FAIR ENOUGH. FOR THE RECORD, I DO REUSE ALL OF THE PLASTIC BAGS WHETHER THEY'RE THE FLIMSY ONES OR NO ONES. MY LAST QUESTION IS WHEN DO YOU EXPECT YOU WILL HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO DO THE STUDY. I ASSUME YOU'RE NOT GOING TO START UNTIL DECEMBER 1. >> SO, MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR BASSAN, PER THE ORDINANCE WE HAVE TO HAVE THE STUDY DONE BY THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR. WE'RE INSTITUTED THIS NEW DEFINITION THIS MONTH AND NEXT MONTH AND WE'LL START THE STUDY IN DECEMBER SO BY THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR THE RECOMMENDATION WILL BE MADE BACK TO COUNCIL AND BACK TO THE COMMITTEE AND ADMINISTRATION TO SEE IF THEY NEED TO CHANGE, LOOSEN OR TIGHTEN THE ORDINANCE. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU, DIRECTOR. MADAM PRESIDENT, I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION BUT IT LOOKS LIKE COUNCILOR DAVIS HAS A QUESTION ON THIS TOPIC, IF YOU CHOOSE. >>COUN. BORREGO: COUNCILOR DAVIS, GO AHEAD. IS THIS RELATED TO THE TOPIC? >>COUN. DAVIS: IT IS, MADAM PRESIDENT. THANK YOU. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE A QUICK COMMENT WHILE WE HAVE THE DIRECTORCH. I WANT SAY THANK YOU TO YOU AND THE ADMINISTRATION. WE WENT BACK AND FORTH WITH HOW TO IMPLEMENT THIS WITH THE BUSINESSES AND CUSTOMERS WITH THE CITY. I THINK THAT YOU'RE RIGHT. WE OUGHT TO PICK UP WHERE WE LEFT UP AND TRY TO FINISH THAT SO WE CAN GET REAL DATA. THE PANDEMIC DID HAPPEN TO GIVE US REAL DATA ON HOW BUSINESSES TRY TO EXPLOIT SOME OF THE LOOPHOLES. I APPLAUD THE ADMINISTRATION FOR INCORPORATING THIS BEFORE WE GET TO THAT NEXT PHASE. I THINK IT'S CERTAINLY THE SPIRIT OF THE LAW THAT WE WROTE TO NOT ALLOW THESE LARGER BAGS. I KNOW WE HAVE PROVISIONAL OPTIONS BUT IT SEEMS TO GET WAY OUT OF THE CONTROL. I APPRECIATE THE ADMINISTRATION TRYING TO WORK ON THIS. I LOOK FORWARD TO THE STUDY. THANK YOU FOR BEING PROACTIVE AND FIGURING OUT A WAY TO DO THAT IN THE SPIRIT OF HOW WE INTENDED WHEN WE PASSED THIS LAW. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR DAVIS. COUNCILOR BASSAN, I'LL GO BACK TO YOU SO YOU CAN FINISH WITH YOUR NEXT QUESTION. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. DMD HAS SENT OUT A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO ON OCTOBER 18th A NOTICE IT SAID SECURITY OFFICER RESPONSE TO FILM AND OPEN CARRY ON PUBLIC PROPERTY AND FILMING ON PROPERTY AND OPEN CARRYING FIREARM. THERE'S TWO FLIERS OUT TO THE PUBLIC AS WELL AS COUNCILORS AND OTHER PLACES. ON THERE, IT SAID A LIST OF EMPLOYEES SHOULD AND ARE ALLOWED TO OR NOT ALLOWED TO AND EMPLOYEES THIS IS THE PARAMETERS IN WHICH THEY CAN BEHAVE AND CAN AND CAN'T DO WHEN BEING CONFRONTED. ON BOTH OF THE FLIERS THEY SAY, EMPLOYEE MAY NOT BRING FIREARMS INTO THE WORKPLACE. THIS INCLUDES CITY VEHICLES AND PARKING LOTS. I'M WONDERING, IT'S A TWO-FOLD QUESTION. I RECOGNIZE THAT WE WANT TO BE SAFE. I RECOGNIZE IF THE WORLD HAD NO FIREARMS AT ALL PERHAPS THAT CAN BE ARGUED THAT NO ONE WOULD GET SHOT. NONETHELESS, THERE ARE SIMILAR BUSINESS POLICIES FOR CONCEAL CARRY AND OPEN CARRY. I KNOWP ON MY END I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW SOME OF THE GOOD GUYS HAVE A FIREARM IN A CITY BUILDING. I JUST HAD A CONSTITUENT REACH OUT AND THERE WAS A PROBLEM AND I DON'T KNOW IF I WOULD BLAME THE SOLID WASTE DRIVER. WHAT IF THINGS GOT ESCALATED? RIGHT NOW PEOPLE ARE GETTING MURDERED AND THERE'S HOMICIDES, MULTIPLE -- SO I'M WONDERING WHAT THE POLICY IS FROM THE CITY'S STANDPOINT AS FAR AS EMPLOYEES THAT OWN AN OPEN CARRY. THEY HAVE TAKEN THE LICENSE AND HAVE THE PERMITS ARE THEY ALLOWED TO CARRY OR NOT? >> WE HAVE LEGAL THAT IS IN CONFERENCE ROOM. I'M GOING TO ASK LEGAL TO EXPLAIN THAT. THIS IS MORE ON THE LAW RATHER THAN WHAT THE POLICY IS AND HOW IT'S IMPLEMENTED. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR BASSAN. I'M ACTUALLY HERE WITH THE HR DIRECTOR ANTHONY ROMERO. TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION THIS IS A PERSONNEL RULE THAT'S BEEN IN PLACE AT THE CITY FOR DECADES. THAT PROHIBITS EMPLOYEES FROM CARRYING FIREARMS. THAT IS AN APPROPRIATE RESTRICTION THAT THE CITY GOVERNMENT CAN MAKE ON ITS OWN WORKFORCE. SO, I HOPE I ANSWERED THE QUESTION. I CAN HAVE ANTHONY ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE ABOUT THE RULE. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU. I RESPECT THAT. BUT, I'M STILL DISAPPOINTED. I HOPE THERE'S GOOD GUYS THAT CAN PROTECT US IN THE EVENT OF A TRAGIC HAPPENING AT SOME POINT IN TIME. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >>COUN. BORREGO: IS THAT ALL, COUNCILOR BASSAN? >>COUN. BASSAN: YES, MA'AM. >>COUN. BORREGO: OKAY. THOSE ARE THE ONLY QUESTIONS THAT WERE SUBMITTED TO MY OFFICE FOR TODAY'S MEETING. WITH THAT, COUNCILORS, WE'LL MOVE TO OUR ITEM NUMBER SIX WHICH IS OUR JOURNAL. I WILL MOVE TO COUNCILOR GIBSON. COUNCILOR GIBSON. >>COUN. GIBSON: I MOVE APPROVAL FOR THE OCTOBER 18th JOURNAL. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR GIBSON. DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'M LOOKING TO SEE WHO IS RAISING THEIR HAND. COUNCILOR BASSAN HAS A SECOND. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS, COUNCILORS? I DON'T SEE ANY HANDS RAISED. WITH THAT, COUNCILORS, WE'LL MOVE TO THE VOTE. MS. ORTEGA, ARE YOU THERE? >> YES, MADAM PRESIDENT. >>COUN. BORREGO: FOR THE RECORD, COUNCILOR HARRIS HAS JOINED US. . >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: WHAT IS THE MOTION? >> FOR APPROVAL OF THE OCTOBER 18th JOURNAL. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. HARRIS: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. THANK YOU, COUNCILORS. THAT PASSES ON A 9-0. WE'LL MOVE TO ITEM SEVEN WHICH IS COMMUNICATIONS AND INTRODUCTIONS. ARE THERE ANY CHANGES TO THE LETTER OF INTRODUCTION THIS AFTERNOON? COUNCILORS, I HAVE ONE. I THINK COUNCILOR BENTON HAS A COUPLE. I'M GOING TO BEGIN. I MOVE THE RULES BE SUSPENDED FOR THE PURPOSE OF PLACING O-50 ON TODAY'S AGENDA FOR ACTION. O-50 IT'S THE APPOINTMENT OF DIANE MC DERMT AS THE INTERIM DIRECTOR OF THE CIVILIAN POLICE OVERSIGHT AGENCY. I NEED TWO THIRDS OF THE COUNCILORS PRESENT TO VOTE IN ORDER FOR IT TO PASS. I HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR SENA AND COUNCILOR HARRIS. >>COUN. HARRIS: I HAVE A QUESTION. >>COUN. HARRIS: IT'S DESIGNATED, AND I DIDN'T READ THE LEGISLATION. IT'S NOT AN ORDINANCE, IS IT? >>COUN. BORREGO: I BELIEVE IT IS. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR HARRIS, IT IS NOT. IT'S OTHER COMMUNICATION. IT'S IN OTHER COMMUNICATIONS FOR THIS. >>COUN. HARRIS: IT CAME TO AN ORDINANCE. OKAY THANKS. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR HARRIS FOR THE QUESTION. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COUNCILORS? I DON'T SEE ANY HANDS RAISED. WITH THAT, COUNCILORS, WE'LL MOVE ON TO A VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. HARRIS: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. THANK YOU, COUNCILORS. THAT MOTION PASSES ON A -- DID YOU SAY 8-0 OR 9-0? >> 9-0, MADAM PRESIDENT. >>COUN. BORREGO: COUNCILOR BENTON, WE'LL MOVE TO THE FOR THE NEXT ITEM. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I MOVE THAT TO AMEND THE LETTER OF INTRODUCTION TO REFERRAL O-21-79 TO THE FINANCE AND GOVERNMENT OPERATIONS COMMITTEE. IT'S AMENDING THE OPEN SPACE TRUST FUND AND LAND ADMINISTRATION ORDINANCE TO AUTHORIZE THE USE OF FUNDS FOR OPEN SPACE ACQUISITION AND CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS WITHIN OPEN SPACE. AND A CROSS REFERENCE OF THE ADVISORY BOARD ORDINANCE SKWU MENDING THE SECTION TO CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS TO MAKE PERMANENT THE 2% SATISFIED OPEN SPACE ACQUISITIONS. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR BENTON. WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR DAVIS. >>COUN. BENTON: MADAM PRESIDENT, I WOULD LIKE TO CLARIFY THIS MOTION. WE DID RECEIVE A COMMUNICATION THAT WAS SENT TO THE COUNCILORS FROM MS. SCHULTZ. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU SAW THAT. I WILL READ PART OF THIS INTO THE RECORD AND I HAVE A COMMENT BEFORE WE VOTE ON THIS. THIS IS FROM THE CHAIR OF THE OPEN SPACE ADVISY BOARD. SHE'S NOT WRITING ON BEHALF OF THE BOARD BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO CONVENE ON THIS. SHE'S SPEAKING FOR HERSELF. IT MAKES FUNDAMENTAL CHANGES TO THE OPEN SPACE TRUST FUND. AND THESE CHANGES DESERVE CAREFUL DISCUSSION AND CONSIDERATION BY BOTH THE ADVISORY BOARD AND THE CITY COUNCIL. IN FACT, EXISTING LEGISLATION GIVES IT RESPONSIBILITY TO COMMENT ON MATTERS RELATED TO THE TRUST FUND. YET THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE WAS UNAWARE OF THIS LEGISLATION UNTIL ONE OF OUR MEMBERS SAW IT ADVERTISED IN THE JOURNAL. ADDITIONALLY, THE ORDINANCE BYPASSES NORMAL LEGISLATIVE PROCESS. IT HAS NOT BEEN REFERRED TO THE LAND USE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMITTEE. I BELIEVE THIS TYPE OF LEGISLATION CUSTOMARILY DID GO TO FGO. AS DISCUSSED WITH ALL LEGISLATION RELATED TO OPEN SPACE. CHANGES BOTH PROPOSED WILL FUNDAMENTALLY ALTER THE TRUST FUND. THE INTENT OF THE TRUST FUND WAS TO SUPPORT MAJOR OPEN SPACE NOT INCIDENTAL PUBLIC SPACES. LISTS SEVERAL OTHER QUESTIONS. I THINK THIS IS AN IMPORTANT COMMENT COMING FROM THE MEMBER OR CHAIR OF THE COMMITTEE. THE OPEN SPACE TRUSTFUND IS A LEGACY THAT IS OVER 35 YEARS OLD. LONGSTANDING POLICY OF THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE. I THINK TO PUT THIS ON AS A HOLD OVER FOR THE NEXT MEETING IS NOT GOING TO BE AN ADEQUATE AMOUNT OF DISCUSSION. FOR THAT REASON, IT REALLY DOES NEED TO GO TO COMMITTEE. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR. IT LOOKS LIKE COUNCILOR HARRIS MAY HAVE A QUESTION. >>COUN. HARRIS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. JUST A COMMENT. I'M GLAD WE HEARD FROM THE CHAIRMAN OF THE OPEN SPACE ADVISORY BOARD. WE HAVE LOTS OF WAYS OF GAINING INPUT AND CONSIDERING THIS. I KNOW WE ALL KNOW THE ISSUES. WE SHOULD CAREFULLY CONSIDER THIS AND WE WILL. SENDING IT TO A COMMITTEE IS NOT NECESSARILY PROVIDING ANY BETTER INVOLVEMENT OF PEOPLE BECAUSE WE HAVE LOTS OF WAYS OF DOING THAT. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A NEW COUNCIL, I THINK WE SHOULD TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO CONSIDER THIS WITH THE COUNCIL WE HAVE. I'M AGAINST REFERRING IT. LET'S ALL CONSIDER DEFERRING IT LATER. THE PRESIDENT HAS THAT DISCRETION TO DO A HOLD OVER. I THINK WE SHOULD KEEP IT THE WAY IT IS. >>COUN. BORREGO: IT APPEARS THAT COUNCILOR BENTON MAY HAVE A REBUTTAL. AND COUNCILOR BASSAN HAS A COMMENT. >>COUN. BENTON: THE OPEN SPACE ADVISORY BOARD IS FOR THE PURPOSE OF ADVISING US IN THESE MATTERS. FURTHERMORE, THE LAST TIME COUNCILOR HARRIS WAS ATTEMPTING TO LIQUIDATE THIS WE WENT THROUGH COMMITTEE. THERE'S A LOT OF PUBLIC INPUT ABOUT WHERE WE WERE GOING WITH THE OPEN SPACE TRUST FUND AND THAT PROVIDED A VENUE THAT IS MUCH DIFFERENT THAN A COUNCIL -- AND OPEN TO MORE PEOPLE AND DIALOGUE BETWEEN COUNCILORS BEFORE IT GETS TO FULL COUNCILAL. AS YOU KNOW THE FULL COUNCIL OFTENTIMEICIZE CURSORY DISCUSSION. I THINK THE ADVISORY BOARD OUGHT TO BE CONSIDERED AND GIVE THEIR OPINION ON THIS PRIOR TO OUR HEARING. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR BENTON. COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I CAN SEE BOTH SIDES OF WHAT'S BEING SAID RIGHT NOW. I CAN SEE HOW THERE USED TO BE SOME ADVISORY FROM THE BOARD I CAN SEE A NEW COUNCIL IS COMING IN. MY SITUATION, I THINK IT RUNS INTO THE FABRIC -- I HAVEN'T SEEN A LOT OF DELIBERATION ON COMMITTEES, ALMOST EVER. I THINK THAT I AM REALLY HAVING TROUBLE BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE WE RUSH THROUGH COMMITTEES ANYWAY AND WE END UP WITH FULL COUNCIL WHERE WE HAVE THE CONVERSATION, ALL NINE OF US, TO FIGURE OUT WHERE WE STAND AND WORK THROUGH IF THERE ARE AMENDMENTS OR JUST VOTE NO OR NOT. I HAVE A HARD TIME SUPPORTING PUTTING IT INTO COMMITTEE BECAUSE I HAVE STILL YET TO SEE SOME OF THE VALUE OF COMMITTEE WITH ALL DUE RESPECT TO EVERYBODY. >>COUN. BORREGO: COUNCILOR, THANK YOU FOR THE COMMENTS. BE HAVE EVERYBODY JUMPING IN. WE HAVE COUNCILOR DAVIS, COUNCILOR HARRIS, AND COUNCILOR JONES. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. LET ME ECHO AND SAY BECAUSE WE HAVE ALL THESE COUNCILORS JUMPING IN AND WE HAVE MEMBERS OF THE ADVISORY BOARD THAT WORKED ON THE ISSUE FOR LONG TIME AND HAVEN'T HAD A LOT OF PUBLIC VETTING THIS IS A LOT OF MONEY. THIS OPEN SPACE ADVISORY BOARD AND TRUST FUND WAS CREATED TO ENSURE THAT WE PRIORITIZE THE AQUAIZATIONS AND PRESERVE THE RIGHT AMOUNT OF MONEY FOR MAINTENANCE. I CAN'T ARGUE THE SYSTEM IS BROKEN. LAST YEAR, I THINK, MAYBE TWO YEARS AGO NOW, WE APPROVED A WHOLE NEW PRIORITY PLAN THAT ALLOWED THE USE OF THESE FUNDS TO BE USED THE NORTHWEST WINDOW ET CETERA AND THE PRESIDENT'S DISTRICT. I THINK THIS IS WOULD BE A RADICAL CHANGE TO A FAIRLY BIG POT OF MONEY. FOR THAT REASON, I THINK THERE'S NO URGENCY AS FAR AS I KNOW UNLESS THERE'S SOME BIG PROJECT THAT SOMEBODY WANTS TO FUND THAT WE'RE NOT AWARE OF. I'M NOT SURE THAT'S NECESSARY ON A TWO WEEK HOLDOVER. IF IT'S A VALID ARGUMENT WE SHOULD SEND IT THROUGH THE NORMAL PROCESS AND THROUGH THE COMMITTEE PROCESS AND INCORPORATE IT INTO THE BUDGET NEXT YEAR. IT'S NOT NECESSARY FOR THE NEXT TWO YEARS. I VOTE AGAINST THIS. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR. COUNCILOR HARRIS AND COUNCILOR JONES, AND THEN COUNCILOR GIBSON. >>COUN. HARRIS: I'VE ALREADY SPOKEN ONCE. YOU SHOULD LET COUNCILOR GIBSON SPEAK AND THEN I'LL SPEAK. >>COUN. BORREGO: COUNCILOR JONES. >>COUN. JONES: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I BELIEVE WE USE OPEN SPACE ACQUISITIONS. THEY'RE EXPERIENCED AND THEY REALLY KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING AND WHY THE CITY WANTS THIS DONE. I THINK SOMETIMES WE AS A COUNCIL TEND TO NOT PAY MUCH ATTENTION AND GIVE IN -- I THINK THERE'S (INAUDIBLE). THERE'S A HUGE BENEFIT OF SENDING THIS TO THAT GROUP FOR STUDY AND GET BACK TO THIS. I WILL NOT VOTE IN FAVOR OF THIS. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BORREGO: COUNCILOR GIBSON. >>COUN. GIBSON: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I ALSO BELIEVE THAT IT SHOULD GO TO COMMITTEE. I WILL DEFINITELY AGREE THAT SOMETIMES THERE ARE BILLS THAT DO GET RUSHED THROUGH COMMITTEE. THAT DOESN'T MEAN IT SHOULD BE THAT WAY. I SEE THAT HAPPENING IN THE COMMITTEES THAT I'M A MEMBER OF. YOU KNOW WHAT, THIS IS REALLY SPECIAL. THIS IS A LONGTIME FUND. AND WHEN WE DID, COUNCILOR BENTON MENTIONED, WHEN WE DID OPEN THIS UP A FEW YEARS AGO WE DID SPEND QUITE A BIT OF TIME ON IT. IT'S WORTH IT. IT REALLY IS WORTH THE LOOK. THE OTHER THING TOO, I'LL JUST MENTION THAT ANY TIME WE TRY TO RUSH THINGS THROUGH IT ALWAYS MAKES ME A LITTLE BIT NERVOUS, EVEN IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT I'M DOING AND CAN SEE THE BENEFIT OF AND SKIPPING COMMITTEE, BASICALLY, IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. IT DOES SORT OF PRESENT TO THE PUBLIC, YOU KNOW, A POTENTIAL FOR WHAT ARE WE MISSING AND WHY ARE WE MISSING THAT. PARTICULARLY FOR THIS PARTICULAR SUBJECT, I THINK IT'S ESPECIALLY IMPORTANT THAT IT DOES GO TO COMMITTEE. THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR GIBSON. ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS? I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER COMMENTS. COUNCILOR HARRIS. >>COUN. HARRIS: VERY QUICKLY. GENERALLY SPEAKING I'VE SEEN THE COMMITTEE PROCESS IN THE PAST BE HELPFUL. IN THE ERA OF ZOOM, I DON'T WANT TO DISBAND COMMITTEES JUST BECAUSE OF ZOOM FOR NOW. BUT WAS NICE ABOUT COMMITTEES YOU HAVE A SMALL SETTING AND IT'S MORE INTIMATE IN THAT COMMITTEE ROOM AND YOU CAN OPEN IT UP MORE. THERE'S NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A ZOOM COMMITTEEING AND ZOOM COUNCIL MEETING. IN THIS CASE, I REALLY DON'T SEE THE BENEFIT. >>COUN. BORREGO: COUNCILOR HARRIS, THANK YOU. COUNCILOR BENTON AND COUNCILOR JONES. >>COUN. BENTON: MADAM PRESIDENT, JUST TO CLARIFY BECAUSE THERE'S STATEMENTS MADE BY COUNCILORS. THIS MOTION IS TO SEND IT TO COMMITTEE. IF YOU WANT IT TO GO TO COMMITTEE YOU NEED TO VOTE YES. IF NOT, YOU NEED TO VOTE NO. AGAIN, COMMITTEE IS ONE THING. IT HAS BEEN A VENUE IN THE PAST FOR SUCH DISCUSSIONS. I THINK MOST IMPORTANTLY, THE OPEN SPACE ADVISORY BOARD, THAT'S THE NAME OF IT. IT'S A COMPETITIVE BOARD WHERE PEOPLE ARE REALLY INTO AND HAVE BACKGROUND IN OPEN SPACE AND MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO US. TO EMPHASIS THIS BILL IS A MOMENTOUS CHANGE TO THE OPEN SPACE TRUST FUND AND SYSTEM. AND EVEN ALSO TO THE ROLE OF THE BOARD. WE SHOULD HEAR FROM THE BOARD BEFORE WE DECIDE UPON THE ROLE OF THE BOARD, I WOULD ARGUE. JUST TO BE CLEAR, IF YOU'RE VOTING YES, YOU'RE VOTING TO SEND IT TO THE COMMITTEE. AND FULL DISCLOSURE, WE WERE BACK AND FORTH TRYING TO LOOK AT THE HISTORY OF THIS. I THINK IT HAS BEEN HEARD IN LET'S AND FGO IN THE PAST, DEPENDING ON WHAT PART OF IT IS. THE FISCAL MATTERS HAVE BEEN HEARD AT FGO AND SOME OF THE THINGS REGARDING THE BOARD OF AND PRIORITIZATION PROCESS HAS BEEN MY EXPERIENCE. I DON'T THINK IT MATTERS SO MUCH AS THAT IT GET A HEARING AFTER HAVING HEARD FROM THEM. >>COUN. BORREGO: IT LOOKS LIKE COUNCILOR JONES WANTS TO WEIGH IN AND COUNCILOR GIBSON. >>COUN. JONES: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. THANK YOU FOR CORRECTING MY MISSPEAKING. THIS DEFINITELY NEEDS TO GO BEFORE THE OPEN SPACE. THEY ARE -- THEY ARE THE ONES WHO STUDY AND PAY ATTENTION. I THINK SOMETIMES WE LET IT GO BY AND TEND TO JUST VOTE. I DEFINITELY BELIEVE WE SHOULD VOTE. THANK YOU, COUNCILOR BENTON, FOR THE CLARIFICATION. THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. >>COUN. BORREGO: COUNCILOR GIBSON. >>COUN. GIBSON: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. THERE'S SOMETHING ELSE I THOUGHT OF THAT REALLY CAN ADD TO THE CONVERSATION. AND THE EDUCATION OF EVERYBODY INVOLVED IN THIS AND ANY OTHER PIECE OF LEGISLATION. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT OPEN SPACE NOW. THAT IS THE OPPORTUNITY FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AND MANY TIMES PARTICULARLY IN COMMITTEE WE WILL HEAR FROM SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS. YOU KNOW, THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FOR NOT ONLY THIS BUT ANYTHING ELSE THAT'S WORTH TALKING ABOUT IN GETTING TO COMMITTEE. I JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR GIBSON. I AGREE THAT I THINK, AND I'M SORRY COUNCILOR BASSAN, I HAVE TO DISAGREE WITH YOU. I THINK YOUR COMMITTEE STRUCTURE IS A VERY IMPORTANT PROCESS BECAUSE IT ALLOWS FOR DEMOCRATIC PROCESS FOR INPUT FROM THE PUBLIC AND WHILE WE DON'T ALWAYS AGREE ON WHETHER OR NOT THOSE COMMITTEES SHOULD BE -- WHAT THE OUTCOME OF THE COMMITTEES RATHER. I THINK THOSE PROCESSES ARE VERY IMPORTANT. I ALSO SEE, AS YOU MENTIONED, YOU SEE BOTH SIDES, I ALSO SEE AS WE DID WITH THE OPEN SPACE IN COUNCILOR SENA'S DISTRICT WHEN WE HAD TO MOVE SOMETHING REALLY FAST THAT WE WERE ABLE TO MOVE SOMETHING, AND I'M TALKING ABOUT THE OPEN SPACE THAT WE PURCHASED, IT WAS DONE DURING THE COVID AND DURING THE PANDEMIC AND IT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE HAD TO REALLY MOVE ON TO ENSURE THAT WE WERE ABLE TO OBTAIN IT. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THE DEMOCRATIC PROCESS IS PRESERVED. IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT THAT WE SOMETIMES ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS WE'RE ABLE TO MOVE THINGS FORWARD EXPEDITIOUSLY. I DON'T KNOW. I SEE COUNCILOR BASSAN'S HAND UP. COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY. I IN NO WAY DISRESPECT THE COMMITTEE AND THE WAY THE PROCESS IS SUPPOSED TO WORK. I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT. MAYBE IT'S BECAUSE I'VE BEEN ON COUNCIL VIA ZOOM PRETTY MUCH THE WHOLE TIME. I HAVE YET TO SEE THE COMMITTEE MEETINGS ACTUALLY PAN OUT THE WAY THEY WERE INTENDED. I DON'T THINK THEY'RE ADDING MUCH TO THE DEMOCRACY. I HOPE WE CAN GET BACK TO THAT POINT. I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT. >>COUN. BORREGO: COUNCILOR GIBSON, YOU'RE OUT OF LINE. >>COUN. GIBSON: I KNOW. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BORREGO: I DON'T SEE ANY HANDS UP. WITH THAT, WE'LL GO BACK TO THE SPONSOR AND GIVE ANY CLOSING REMARKS AND WE'LL TAKE A VOTE. >>COUN. HARRIS: I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED CLOSING REMARKS. >>COUN. BORREGO: WITH THAT, WE'LL MOVE TO THE VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: NO. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. HARRIS: NO. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: NO. >>COUN. SENA: NO. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. >> MOTION PASSES ON A 5-4 VOTE. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILORS. WITH THAT, WE'LL MOVE TO R-214 WHICH IS ALSO COUNCILOR BENTON. COUNCILOR BENTON. COUNCILOR BENTON, WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO READ IT INTO THE RECORD? >>COUN. BENTON: I HAVE IT. I DIDN'T KNOW I WAS MUTED. I MOVE THE RULES BE SUSPENDED FOR INTRODUCING R-214 AND REFER IT TO THE LAND USE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMITTEE. IT'S AMENDING R-17-233 TO EXTEND THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF THE PROCEDURE WHILE THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION RECOGNITION ORDINANCE IS UPDATED. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OF COUNCILOR BENTON? I'M LOOKING FOR HANDS. I DON'T SEE ANY, COUNCILOR BENTON. I WILL JUST MENTION THAT WE NEED A SECOND ON THIS. IS THERE A SECOND? COUNCILOR DAVIS WITH A SECOND. WE NEED TWO THIRDS OF THE COUNCILORS TO VOTE ON THIS IN ORDER FOR IT TO PASS. COUNCILOR BENTON, YOUR HAND IT UP AGAIN? OR IS THAT FROM PREVIOUS? >>COUN. BENTON: MAY I ASK STAFF TO SPEAK TO THIS AND WHY IT'S IMPORTANT? THANKS. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR DAVIS, IF MS. MORRIS WANT TO CHIME IN, I'LL INVITE THEM TO DO SO. ESSENTIALLY, THE CITY COUNCIL TOOK UP THE NEIGHBORHOOD RECOGNITION ORDINANCE EARLIER THIS YEAR. IT DID NOT PASS AN UPDATED ORDINANCE. HOWEVER IT HAD BEEN EXTENDING INTERIM GUIDELINES THAT TRY TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE EXISTING SHORTCOMINGS SO IT'S NOT SETTING LONG-TERM POWELLACY IN THE FORM OF ORDINANCE UPDATES. IT'S HOLDING AT BAY UNINTENDED ORDINANCE ISSUES. THIS IS TO LIMIT THE ABILITY FOR MULTIPLE ASSOCIATIONS TO OVERLAP OVER ONE ANOTHER. THE COUNCIL HASN'T MADE A FINAL STATEMENT. AS TO HOW THAT SHOULD BE HANDLED, THIS WOULD PRESERVE THE ABILITY TO DEAL WITH THAT CONSIDERATION MOVING FORWARD AT SOME POINT. >>COUN. BORREGO: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? IT DOESN'T APPEAR THAT ANYONE HAS THEIR HAND UP. COUNCILOR HARRIS. >>COUN. HARRIS: SORRY, I WAS MUTED. WHAT IS THIS MOTION AGAIN? >>COUN. BORREGO: COUNCILOR HARRIS, THE MOTION IS THAT WE EXTEND THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF THE INTERIM PROCEDURE WHILE THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION RECOGNITION ORDINANCE IS UPDATED. THIS IS A LETTER OF INTRODUCTION RIGHT? >> I'LL ADD SOMETHING REALLY QUICKLY. IT'S TO ADD A RESOLUTION TO THE LETTER OF INTRODUCTION THAT WOULD, IF ACTED UPON BY THE COUNCIL AT LATER DATE, EXTEND THE INTERIM GUIDELINE FOR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS. BUT THE VOTE RIGHT NOW IS TO ADD THE BILL TO THE LETTER OF INTRODUCTION. >>COUN. HARRIS: AND THANKS FOR THAT. BY THE WAY, I'M AGAINST THIS RESOLUTION. HERE'S WHY. THERE'S A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IN MY DISTRICT WHICH IS BEEN BEHAVING TERRIBLY. THEY'RE KIND OF DISGRACEFUL. WHAT THEY DID IS TOOK OVER THE ASSOCIATION BY PROXY BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T WANT A COMMUNITY CENTER. ALTHOUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ITSELF IS IN FAVOR OF THE COMMUNITY CENTER. WHAT THEY DID IS TOOK IT OVER BY PROXY, THEY WENT TO RETIREMENT HOME AND PAID DUES TO TAKE OVER THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND THEY AMENDED THE BILAWS SO NOBODY COULD VOTE BY PROXY. THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS OUT OF TOUCH WITH NEIGHBORHOOD. I THINK THERE'S APPROPRIATE TIMES, I'M TALK ABOUT THE SING ARROW ASSOCIATION. I THINK THERE'S TIMES WHERE THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS OUT OF TOUCH WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THERE SHOULD BE AN OVERLAP. I THINK THAT THIS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION THAT'S FORMING, IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET THAT DONE. I'M NOT SO SURE IT'S A BAD THING. IT CERTAINLY DOES CREATE A SITUATION WHERE THERE CAN BE CONFUSION. IT'S A MARKETPLACE OF IDEAS AND SOMETIMES YOU GET DIFFERENT IDEAS. I'M JUST GOING TO VOTE AGAINST THAT. BECAUSE THE INITIAL MORATORIUM ON THE OVERLAPPING ASSOCIATION HAS HAD THAT EFFECT ON MY DISTRICT. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR. I SEE COUNCILOR JONES HAS A QUESTION OR COMMENT. >>COUN. JONES: I DO, MADAM PRESIDENT. WITH YOUR INDULGENCE, I THINK WE'RE ALL, THE MAJORITY OF US ARE CONFUSED ABOUT WHAT THIS DOES OR DOESN'T DO AND WHAT IT WILL DO IF IT PASSES. MAY I ASK MS. SCHULTZ TO EXPLAIN IN LAYMAN'S TERMS WHAT THIS DOES IF WE VOTE FOR OR AGAINST, MADAM PRESIDENT? I AND YOUR INDULGENCE. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR JONES, SURE I'D BE HAPPY TO EXPLAIN THAT. LEADING UP TO THE REWRITE OF THE PROPOSED REWRITE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION RECOGNITION ORDINANCE WHICH DID NOT PASS LAST MONTH, THERE WERE A SENT OF INTERIM PROCEDURES PUT IN PLACE TO DEAL WITH SOME OF THE MORE IMMEDIATE AND GLARING FLAWS IN THE EXISTING NARROW. ONE OF THE LARGEST ONES BEING THE CONFUSION AROUND THE PROVISION FOR OVERLAPPING BOUNDARIES. A RESOLUTION WAS PASSED IN 2017 THAT PUT IN PLACE INTERIM GUIDELINES RELATED TO HOW NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS COULD BE FORMED. THE COUNCIL ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS HAS EXTENDED THOSE INTERIM REGULATIONS AS THE NARROW TOOK LONGER THAN ANTICIPATED TO GET THROUGH A DRAFT FORMAT OR FINAL FORMAT FOR CONSIDERATION BY THE COUNCIL. THE MOST RECENT ITERATION OF THOSE GUIDELINES IS SET TO EXPIRE ON DECEMBER 31 OF THIS YEAR. AND UNTIL SOME OF THOSE MORE FIN FINNICY PROCEDURES EXIST TODAY, IF IT CAN BE WORKED OUT THIS BILL WOULD EXTEND THOSE REGULATIONS UNTIL DECEMBER 31 OF 2022. THIS IS JUST A VOTE TO PUT THIS BILL ON THE LETTER OF INTRODUCTION. THERE'S NO ACTION TAKEN ON WHETHER YOU VOTE OR AGAINST THOSE REGULATIONS THIS EVENING. I HOPE THAT HELPS. >>COUN. JONES: THANK YOU. THAT WAS VERY HELPFUL. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BORREGO: ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? WITH THAT, WE'LL MOVE TO THE VOTE. MS. ORTEGA. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. HARRIS: NO. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: NO. >>COUN. SENA: NO. >>COUN. BORREGO: NO. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. I'M SORRY I WAS MUTED. MY VOTE IS YES. >> MOTION FAILS ON A 5-4 VOTE BECAUSE THE RULES REQUIRES SIX VOTES. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU. WITH THAT, WE'LL MOVE ON. COUNCILOR GIBSON. >>COUN. GIBSON: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I MOVE APPROVAL OF THE LETTER OF INTRODUCTION. >>COUN. HARRIS: SECOND. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILORS. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. MS. ORTEGA. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. HARRIS: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. THANK YOU, MS. ORTEGA. WITH THAT, COUNCILORS, WE'LL MOVE TO ITEM 8, WHICH IS REPORTS OF COMMITTEE. COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. THE FINANCE AND GOVERNMENT OPERATIONS COMMITTEE MET ON MONDAY OCTOBER 25 AND REPORTS THE FOLLOWING ITEMS. IN THE MATTER OF EC440, 453, 454, AND 457 BE APPROVE. OC43 BE RECEIPT NOTED. R204 DUE PASS. R208 BE WITHOUT RECOMMENDATION. I MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE COMMITTEE REPORT. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR, I'LL SECOND THAT. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? IF NOT, MS. ORTEGA, WE NEED A MOTION. I'M SORRY, WE NEED A VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. HARRIS: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. THANK YOU, MS. ORTEGA. YOU ALWAYS DO SUCH A FINE JOB. WE WILL MOVE ON TO OUR NEXT ITEM, COUNCILORS, WHICH IS DEFERALS AND WITHDRAWALS. ARE THERE ANY REFERRALS? I'LL MOVE TO COUNCILOR BENTON ON R-155. >>COUN. BENTON: R-155 IS A NUISANCE STRUCTURE IN NEED OF ABATEMENT IN 1804 HIGH STREET. IT'S SO RUIN AS TO BE A MENACE TO THE PUBLIC HEALTH, COMFORT, SAFETY AND REQUIRED TO BE MOVED. I MOVE A DEFERRAL UNTIL FEBRUARY 7 2022. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR BENTON. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? WE HAVE SEVERAL SECONDS. COUNCILOR SENA AND COUNCILOR JONES. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE SOMEONE FROM PLANNING WHO CAN SPEAK TO THIS. MY POLICY ANALYST WAS TRYING TO GET AN UPDATE ON THIS PRIOR TO THE MEETING. WE ENDED UP FINDING OUT ON OUR OWN FROM THE PROPERTY OWNER THAT THEY'RE DOING SOME WORK. I SEE THAT MR. METZGER IS HERE. >>COUN. BORREGO: WELCOME. BY THE WAY YOU DID A FINE JOB PICKING A POLITICAL SIDE DURING THE ELECTION. >> WE TRIED. THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. THE OWNER HAS DONE SOME WORK AND RECENTLY OBTAINED PERMITS TO BEGIN THE INDOOR REMODEL AND REHAB OF THE PROPERTY. WE'RE IN SUPPORT OF THIS DEFERRAL. >>COUN. BORREGO: COUNCILOR BENTON, DID YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? >>COUN. BENTON: THANKS. IT SEEMS LIKE THEY'RE MAKING A GOOD EFFORT. AND THEY SUGGESTED FEBRUARY. WE'LL JUST GO AHEAD AND CHECK BACK IN WITH THEM AT THE BEGINNING OF FEBRUARY, IF THAT'S THE WILL OF THE COUNCIL. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR BENTON. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO DEFER THIS UNTIL FEBRUARY 7, 2022. COUNCILORS, I NEED A VOTE. MS. ORTEGA. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. HARRIS: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. THANK YOU, MS. ORTEGA. WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM D, WHICH IS COUNCILOR BASSAN AND COUNCILOR PEÑA. R-190. I'M NOT SURE WHO WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT THIS. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. R-190 APPROVING AN INTERGOVERNMENTAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE SISSY TO PERFORM THE ALBUQUERQUE-BERNALILLO COUNTY GOVERNMENT OF THE LOCAL COORDINATING. I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE DEFERRAL UNTIL JANUARY 19, 2022. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR BASSAN. WE HAVE SECOND FROM COUNCILOR SENA. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? IT DOESN'T APPEAR SO. WE'LL MOVE TO MS. ORTEGA FOR A VOTE. MS. ORTEGA. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. HARRIS: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. THANK YOU, COUNCILORS. THAT IS DEFERRED UNTIL JANUARY 19. WITH THAT, WE'LL MOVE TO THE CONSENT AGENDA. ARE THERE ANY CHANGES TO THE CONSENT AGENDA? COUNCILOR GIBSON. >>COUN. GIBSON: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I'LL MOVE APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT AGENDA. MS. ORTEGA. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. HARRIS: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. THANK YOU, COUNCILORS, THAT MOTION PASSES ON A 9-0 VOTE. WE'LL MOVE TO OUR ANNOUNCEMENTS WHICH IS ITEM 11. COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. THERE WILL BE A FINANCE AND GOVERNMENT OPERATIONS COMMITTEE MEETING ON MONDAY NOVEMBER 8, AT 3 P.M. VIA ZOOM VIDEO CONFERENCE. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR BASSAN. COUNCILOR SENA. >>COUN. SENA: THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEEING MEETING SCHEDULED FOR TUESDAY NOVEMBER 9 IS CANCELED. >>COUN. BORREGO: COUNCILOR JONES. >>COUN. JONES: THERE WILL BE A LAND USE PLAN AND ZONING COMMITTEE MEETING ON WEDNESDAY NOVEMBER 10 AT 3 P.M. VIA ZOOM VIDEO CONFERENCE. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, MADAM. PUBLIC HEARINGS. THERE ARE NONE. WE WILL MOVE TO ITEM 13, WHICH ARE APPROVALS. COUNCILORS, OUR FIRST ITEM REGARDING OUR APPROVALS, WHICH IS ITEM 13 IS EC458, LEASE AND DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE AND AMAZON. I MOVE APPROVAL OF THIS ITEM. I NEED A SECOND. I HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR BASSAN. THANK YOU FOR THE SECOND, COUNCILOR. I WILL MOVE ON TO THE ADMINISTRATION BECAUSE I THINK THEY HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF PRESENTATION BEFORE WE GO TO A VOTE. >> COUNCILORS, I CAN CERTAINLY BRING THAT UP FOR YOU. I'M THE DIRECTOR OF AVIATION FOR THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE. I HAVE THIS PRESENTATION. >>COUN. BORREGO: ARE YOU HAVING TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES? >> THERE YOU GO. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCILORS, TODAY I'D LIKE TO PRESENT TO YOU THE AMAZON GROUND AND DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND LEASE. A LITTLE ABOUT THE AGREEMENT OVERALL. AMAZON IS LOOKING TO LEASE FIVE ACRES OF LAND AT THE SUNPORT. WHICH WILL CONSISTENT OF A CARGO FACILITY AND THEY WILL BE CONSTRUCTING AND OPERATING THE FACILITY THEMSELVES. THIS DOES ALLOW FOR DEVELOPMENT OF VACANT LAND AT THE SUNPORT AND AN EXPANSION OF OUR CARGO OPERATIONS. THE INITIAL TERM OF THE AGREEMENT WILL BE TEN YEARS WITH THREE POSSIBLE FIVE YEAR RENEWAL OPTIONS FOR A MAXIMUM TERM OF 25 YEARS. THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE, THROUGH ITS AVIATION DEPARTMENT, WILL BE EXPANDING THE FOOTPRINT OF THE CARGO APRON FOR USE BY AMAZON AND OTHER CARGO OPERATORS AT THE SUNPORT. THE COST OF THAT PROJECT WILL BE $11.4 MILLION AND $6.6 MILLION OF THAT HAS BEEN SECURED THROUGH FEDERAL FUNDING. THE ECONOMIC IMPACT OF THE GROUND LEASE ONLY IS ESTIMATED TO GENERATE ABOUT $55,000 A YEAR IN RENT FOR THAT PROPERTY. IT WILL BE INCREASED BY 2% EACH YEAR AND AT EACH INTERVAL OF FIVE-YEAR EXPANSION PAST THE FIRST TEN. THAT WILL BE ADJUSTED THROUGH FAIR MARKET VALUE, ACCORDINGLY. OUR NEXT STEPS FOR THIS PROJECT IS COUNCIL APPROVAL TODAY, CONSTRUCTION SUBMITLES AND PERMITTING, AND BOTH PROJECTS TARGETED COMPLETION DATE OF AUGUST 2022. ANY QUESTIONS? >>COUN. BORREGO: COUNCILORS, IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCILOR HARRIS. >>COUN. HARRIS: THAT YOU HAPPENING . >>COUN. HARRIS: THANK YOU, I'M GLAD AMAZON IS COMING. I THINK IT'S GOOD FOR THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE. I SEE WE'RE NOT DOING ANY INCENTIVES IN TERMS OF IRBs. I DO QUESTION WHETHER OR NOT WE SHOULD BE GIVING AMAZON A LITTLE MORE FOR RENT. >> ONE THING I CAN SAY, I DIDN'T POINT THIS OUT, I CAN GO BACK TO THIS. IT'S NOT ACTUALLY A BELOW MARKET RENT. IF YOU LOOK AT THE PROPERTY THAT THIS -- SORRY, I HAVEN'T SHARED IT. IF YOU LOOK AT THE PROPERTY, I HOPE YOU CAN SEE MY SCREEN NOW, HERE IS THE FULL FIVE ACRES. >>COUN. HARRIS: IS AMAZON BUILDING THE BUILDINGS? >> YES, COUNCILOR, AMAZON IS BUILDING THE BUILDING. >>COUN. HARRIS: WE'RE JUST LEASING IT AS VACANT LAND. WE'RE NOT LEASING IT -- >> WE'RE LEASING IT AS VACANT AND UNIMPROVED LAND. THIS LAND HAS NOT BEEN IMPROVED AT ALL. IN FACT, IT'S ACTUALLY ON A HILLSIDE, WHICH IS WHY THE RENT RATE IS, AS YOU HAVE SAID, DISCOUNTED. BECAUSE IT WILL TAKE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO BRING THE SITE READY. >>COUN. HARRIS: THAT MAKES ME FEEL BETTER. THANK YOU. >> YES, SIR. >>COUN. BORREGO: COUNCILOR DAVIS, DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION? >>COUN. DAVIS: YEAH, MADAM PRESIDENT. I APPRECIATE THAT. I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT WHAT COUNCILOR HARRIS DID. THIS IS A LAND LEASE AND NOT A DEVELOPMENT PROJECT. MADAM PRESIDENT, DIRECTOR, REMIND ME THAT AS I UNDERSTAND IT, BRINGING AMAZON TO THE CARGO FACILITY WOULD ALLOW AND REQUIRE US TO EXPAND THE CARGO APRON FOR THIS PROJECT OR TO ALLOW FOR FUTURE CARGO PROJECTS AS THE CITY GROWS? >> YES, YOU'RE CORRECT. WE'RE COMPLETELY OUT OF SPACE IN THE EXISTING CARGO FACILITY AND EXISTING CARGO APRON. FOR THIS PROJECT AND OTHER FUTURE PROJECTS AS THE AIRPORT AND OUR CITY GROWS WE WILL CONTINUE TO BUILD OUT OUR FACILITIES. WE WILL BE INCREASING FACILITIES JUST THROUGH THE CARGO RAMP. WE COULD HAVE HAD TO BUILD THE BUILDING OURSELVES. WE'RE ACTUALLY QUITE HAPPY THAT SOMEONE ELSE WILL BE BUILDING THE BUILDING WHICH WILL BE SAVING THE CITY THAT MONEY UP FRONT. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU. MADAM PRESIDENT, I JUST WANT TO SAY I LIKE THE WAY THIS DEAL IS STRUCTURED. IT BRINGS NEW JOBS FOR THE AIRPORT AREA. I SUSPECT THAT FOLKS WILL BE COMING UP HERE TO DO THE WORK AND SPEND THEIR MONEY IN OUR COUNTY AND GO BACK HOME. I WANT TO COMMEND DIRECTOR ALAN. I THINK OUR AIRPORT IS ABOUT 100% GROUND LEASE. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO START THINKING ABOUT WHERE WE GO AND WHAT WE DO NEXT AND DOUBLING DOWN ON THE FAST TRACK ON THE WEST SIDE AT DOUBLE EAGLE. CONGRATULATIONS ON THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN OUR PART OF ALBUQUERQUE. WE'RE HAPPY TO SEE IT. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR DAVIS. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS, MS. ALAN. I JUST WANT TO COMMEND YOU FOR THE WORK AND ALSO THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN EXPANDING THIS HUGE OPPORTUNITY TO THE AIRPORT. I SEE IT AS A WIN-WIN FOR BOTH THE SUNPORT AND DOUBLE EAGLE AIRPORT BECAUSE IN THE FUTURE I SEE NOTHING BUT OPPORTUNITY ON THE WEST SIDE. I KNOW IT'S IN COUNCILOR SENA'S DISTRICT OR JUST OUTSIDE COUNCILOR SENA'S DISTRICT. IT'S SORT OF IN BOTH OF OUR DISTRICTS. ONE OF THE THINGS I WAS HONORED TO BE ABLE TO DO BEFORE HIS PASSING WAS WORK WITH COUNCILOR SANCHEZ AND MORE RECENTLY WITH COUNCILOR SENA ON AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STUDY WHICH PHASE TWO IS IN PROCESS FOR DOUBLE EAGLE AIRPORT. I SEE NOTHING BUT OPPORTUNITY AND I HOPE THAT OUR FUTURE COUNCILORS WILL HAVE THAT VISION AND CARRY THROUGH WITH SOME OF THE WORK WE'VE DONE. THANK YOU FOR THAT. WE WILL MOVE FORWARD. WITH NO OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FROM COUNCILORS WE'LL MOVE TO MS. ORTEGA FOR A VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. HARRIS: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. 9-0. THANK YOU, COUNCILORS, ITEM A PASSES ON A 9-0 VOTE. WE'LL MOVE TO ITEM B, OC-50. THIS IS APPOINTMENT OF DIANE MC DERMT AS THE IN TRM DIRECTOR OF THE POLICE OVERSIGHT AGENCY. DO I HAVE A SECOND? I HAVE SEVERAL SECONDS. THANK YOU FOR THOSE SECONDS, COUNCILORS. I SEE COUNCILOR SENA, AND COUNCILOR DAVIS. DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF THE ADMINISTRATION COUNCILORS? OR WOULD YOU LIKE A PRESENTATION? COUNCILOR SENA, IS THAT A QUESTION? >>COUN. SENA: THANK YOU,MADAM PRESIDENT. I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY. I KNOW WE'RE ALSO DOING AN UPDATE WHEN IT COMES TO THE ORDINANCE. THERE'S NO REAL ESTABLISHED OFFICIAL SUSTAINABILITY WHEN IT COMES TO AN INTERIM OR ASKING SHOULD HAPPEN WITH THE DIRECTOR. I KNOW WE'RE GOING TO WORK ON THAT. I HOPE THAT'S CONSIDERED JUST SO WE HAVE THAT IN PLACE. >>COUN. BORREGO: DO YOU WANT TO RESPOND TO THAT MR. MELENDREZ? >> I'LL JUST ADD TO COUNCILOR SENA'S POINT, THE COUNCIL DOES HAVE A BILL PROVIDING UPDATES TO THE CIVILIAN POLICE OVERSIGHT ORDINANCE INTRODUCED AT THE LAST MEETING. IT WILL BE GOING BEFORE COMMITTEE. YOU'LL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THAT IN THIS PROCESS. >>COUN. BORREGO: COUNCILOR SENA, I HOPE THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION. COUNCILOR BENTON. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I WAS WONDERING IF MS. MC DERMT HAS ANY WORDS FOR US AS SHE SEES THIS INTERIM APPOINTMENT. I APPRECIATE HER WILLINGNESS TO TAKE IT ON. >>COUN. BORREGO: WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK? >> SURE. THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT, AND COUNCILORS. I HAVE BEEN WITH THE CPOA FOR ABOUT 15 YEARS. I'VE SEEN IT THROUGH A LOT OF DIFFERENT CHANGES AND I'VE BEEN A PART OF A LOT OF THOSE DIFFERENT CHANGES. I FEEL FAIRLY CONFIDENT THAT I CAN GO AHEAD AND ASSIST THE AGENCY IN THE TRANSITION. WE'RE VERY SAD TO SEE DIRECTOR HARNESS LEAVE. IT'S GOING TO BE BIG SHOES TO FILL. I WILL DO MY BEST AND CERTAINLY ASSIST THE BOARD IN ITS ROLE OF SELECTING A PERMANENT DIRECTOR WHILE I FILL THE INTERIM SEAT. >>COUN. BORREGO: COUNCILORS, ANY OTHER COMMENTS? I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR STEPPING UP AND REALLY FILLING THIS REALLY IMPORTANT ROLE. THERE'S SERIOUS RESPONSIBILITIES WITH THE POLICE OVERSIGHT BOARD AND I JUST WANT TO COMMEND YOU FOR THAT. IT'S WONDERFUL TO HAVE A WOMAN STEP UP AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR LEADERSHIP. >> THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY AND THE VOTE OF CONFIDENCE. I APPRECIATE IT. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, MADAM. COUNCILORS, I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER HANDS RAISED. WITH THAT, WE'LL MOVE ON TO A VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. HARRIS: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. >> COUNCILOR PEÑA, I HAD TROUBLE HEARING YOU. WAS YOUR VOTE YES? >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >> 9-0. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, MS. ORTEGA. WE'LL MOVE ON WITH THAT TO FINAL ACTIONS. COUNCILORS, THIS ITEM IS 14. COUNCILORS, I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE UP TWO ITEMS ON THE AGENDA. COUNCILOR GIBSON HAD ASKED THAT HER ITEM BE LOOKED AT EARLIER. THAT'S THE REDEVELOPMENT STUDY. ITEM E, WHICH IS R-207. I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE UP -- BEFORE THAT BECAUSE WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT ARE LEAVING THAT WANTED TO SPEAK ON ITEM -- M-11. COUNCILOR GIBSON, IF YOU'RE OKAY, I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE M-11 AND WE'LL COME BACK. THERE'S INDIVIDUALS WAITING TO SPEAK ON THIS. SOME OF THE STAFF HAS TO LEAVE AT 4:30. THERE'S NOT LOT OF TIME ON THAT. COUNCILORS, WE HAVE A FLOOR SUBSTITUTE FOR THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE'S REAFFIRMING ITS STRONG COMMITMENT TO END THE DRIVERS OF CRIME INCLUDING CRIMINAL FIREARM USE AND RECIDIVISM. I MOVE A DUE PASS. COUNCILORS, YOU HAVE AMENDMENTS IN YOUR iPAD. I BELIEVE COUNCILOR PEÑA ALSO HAS A COUPLE OF AMENDMENTS SHE WANTS TO PRESENT. COUNCILORS, I NEED TO HAVE A SECOND ON THE FLOOR SUBSTITUTE. AND WE'LL MOVE TO THE AMENDMENT. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILORS, THE FLOOR SUBSTITUTE WAS AMOVED AT THE PRIOR MEETING. >>COUN. BORREGO: THAT'S RIGHT. THANK YOU, MS. ORTEGA. WE WILL JUST MOVE TO OUR AMENDMENTS. THERE WAS AN AMENDMENT IN YOUR iPAD, I HOPE YOU ALL READ IT. ACTUALLY, BEFORE WE MOVE TO OUR AMENDMENTS BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME FOLKS THAT WANT TO SPEAK, WOULD IT BE OKAY WITH EVERYONE IF WE JUST HAVE THEM SPEAK AND WE COME BACK TO THE AMENDMENTS? DOES ANYONE HAVE HEARTBURN WITH THAT? IF NOT, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO A COUPLE SPEAKERS. I KNOW ONE OF THEM HAD TO LEAVE AT 4:30. I HOPE HE HASN'T LEFT YET. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, I DO BELIEVE MR. BUOY HAS LEFT THE MEETING. >>COUN. BORREGO: HE DID LEAVE? OH DARN. I GUESS WE'LL JUST AS COMMANDER -- AND CANNOT SAY THAT NAME. AND ATTORNEY PACHECO IF THEY CARE TO SAK ON THIS AND WE'LL COME BACK TO THE AMENDMENTS. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, THIS IS MMANDER GENDRY, WE LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING THE WORK ON THIS MEMORIAL. AND ESPECIALLY AS IT PER TAINS TO HOW IT RELATES TO THE METRO CRIME NOVEMBER -- INITIATIVE. AND IT'S GOING TO STRENGTHEN GU CRIME PENALTIES AND DETAIN TEM UNTIL TRIAL. WITH THAT BEING SAID THERE'S SUPPORT OM APDHAT WE DEFINITELYANT TO WK ON REDUCING THE GUNIOLENCE. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU. MR. PACHECO, A YOU THERE? >> MADAM PRESIDT, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE TOY. I ECHO THAT SENTENT. IOULD ENCRAGE THE COUNCIL TO OPT T -- THE CITY HAS CRIME ISSUESND APD ITRUGGLING HARD DON'T HAVE MUC FURTHER TO ADD. THANK YOU. >>COUN. RREGO: THANK Y, MR. PACHECO. I'M REALLY SORRY, COUNCIRS, THATE MISSED TAY BECSE HE HAD IMPORTANTNFORMATION TO SHARE WH . HE HAD TO LEVE. WITH TH, COUNCILO, IF YOU VE QUESTIONS OF ANY O THESE TWGELEMEN, WE WILL GOACK TO OURMENDMENTS. COUNCILORS, I HA THE FST AMENDMENWHICH W IN YOUR iPAD. I DON'T KNOW IF MR. MOYA H THAT ON THE SCREEN. >> MADAM ESENT, I BELIEVE THE AMENDMENTSERE FROM COUNCILOR PEÑA. I DON'VENY AMENDNTSFROM YOU MADAMPRESIDT. >>COUN. BORREG AY COCILOR PEÑA, DO YO WANT TO -- M YA, DO YOU WANTO SHARE COCILOR PEÑA'S AMENDMENTS? WE'LL HAVEER AHEAD AND MOVE THOSFOARD. >> COUILOR PA, DOES I MATTER WHIH ONE GOE FIRST. CO. PEÑA: THK YO MADAM PRESIDENT. I THINK THEIRST ONE WOULD B THE ONE THAT WERE IN THE iPAD. I HA A COUPLE OFTHER A I N'T OW IF EY MADE IT ITO THE AD I HA BEENORNG W JULIA ON T ENDMTS. I WLD ASK THA SHE PROBABLY TALKUT THE AMEMENTS A AITHEM FOR US. CHRIS. >>COUN. BOEGO:RE Y THERE? >> THANK U, MAM PRESID YES, I . THE FIRST AMENDNT Y HE IN FRT OF U, IS SAYS IN THE TO ENCOURAGE THE VERN, EEKS LEGISLURE, DISTRICTOURT DGES ANDHE DISTRICATTORNEY AND THE NEW MEXO TORN GENERAL AND THE U.STTOEYS TO CONSIDEALL MEA AILABLE TOHE TODDRESS THE IUE OF VIOLT CRIME ANDRORTY CRIME. DIALLING BK SE OF THE VERY SPIFICNSTRTIONS THAT WE PRIDED IN THGIL LANGUAGEF M-11. THE FL SUBSTITUTE NUMBER TWO. >>COUN. PEÑADAM PRESIDEN THAT WOULD BE FLOOR AMENDMENT MBERNE. >>COUN. BORR TNK OU COCILOPEÑA. HOW MANY FLOOR AMENDMENT DO YO HAVE? >>COUN. ÑA: JT TWO. CO. BORREGO:HANKOU. ARE THERE ANY QUESONS? I SEE COUNCOR SA MHT HAVE AQUESTION OR TT COND? >>COUN. SENA:HA WAS ACOND, MADAPRESENT. COUNCILOSENA, I APPRECIATE THAT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONSN THAT FLOOR ENDMT? IFNOT, MS. OEGA FORHEVOT COUN. BASSAN: S. >>COUN. BENTONY. >>COUN. DAVIS: S. >>COGIBS: YES. >>COJONES: YE >>COUNHARRIS: YES. >>UNÑA: YE COUN. SE: YES. >>UN. BORREGO:YES. >> 9-0N AMENDMENT E. >>COUN. BORRO: TNK MS. GA. COUNCILOR PEÑA. >>COUN. ÑA: THANK YODAM PRENT. THIS WL BELOOR AMEMENT NUMBER TWO. I APOGIZE, I COULDT GET IF JIA COULD EXPLAIN THES AS , IPPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU, JULIA. >> YES, MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOPE,HIS AMENDNT INSES SO ADDITIONAL INFORMIO TO TH WHEREAS AUS OFHE MEMORI. FIRST, IT ADD SOME ADDITIAL INFORMATION OUT THE CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENTS THAT S PASSED IN 2016. SECOND, ITDDS SE LANE ABOUT THE AMENDMENT AND PROVISIONS OF RULE 40 WHICH ENFORCES T CSTITUTIO REQUIREMT TO DEAL WITH THE CRIME PROBM NEW MECO. AND FINALLY, THE THIRD CHANGE ADDS ADDITIONAL INFORMATION. DIING THE LANGUAGE, WHICH I SOMEWHAT SPEFIC, TO MA IT MORE BAD DIRECTIVE THATHE CRIMINAL JTICE SYSTEM ENTITIES ADDRESS CAUSES O RERECIDIVI AND IN THE CRIMINAL JTI SYEM >>COUN. BORREGO: I'M SORRY, COUNLOR, I AM NT SURE I UNDERSTAND THAT LAST PORTION. ULD YOU CLARIFY THAT, PLEASE >>COUN. PEÑAMADAM PRESIDEN ABLUTELY. THIS IS TO SAY THAT IT TAKES OUT SOME OF THEEAL DIRECT LANGUE AND JUSTALK ABOUT ALL THE ISSUES SURROUNDING THE CRIMINAL JUSTICSYSTEM. NOT JUST FROM A PSECUTION RSPECTIVE BUT TO UNDERLINEHE ISSUES AND AID IN THE REFORMF THE CRINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM. IT'S JUSROADENING THE LAUAGE TOAY LET'S LOOK AT EVERYTHING A NOT JT SOME REAL SPECIFIC ITE. >>COUN. BORREGO: OKAY. IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S QUESTIONS GARDING THIS PARTICULAR AMENDMENT COUNCILOR. WE HAVE A QUESTION FROM COUNCILOR SENA AND COUNCILOR SSAN. >>COUN. SENA: MINE'S JUS A MOTION TO CONTINUTHE CONVERSATION FOR A SECOND. >>COUN. BORREGO: COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I WAS TRYING TO READ THROUGH IT REAL QUICK. I DON'T THINK WE HAD IT EARLIER, BUT THE FIRST PART I SAW ABOUT THE FELONY CASE THAT PEOPLE WON'T BE HELD IN JAIL IF IT'S DUE TO THE FACT THAT THEY CAN'T AFFORD A MONEY BOND. >>COUN. PEÑA: MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR BASSAN, IT'S ACTUALLY NOT IF THEY JUST CAN'T AFFORD IT, THAT SHOULDN'T BE THE SOLE REASON TO KEEP THEM. IF YOU'RE GOING TO RELEASE SOMEONE ELSE WHO CAN GET OUT ON BOND IF THEY CAN AFFORD TO GET OUT ON BOND, EVEN IF IT WAS A FELONY CHARGE, IF YOU KEEP THEM JUST BECAUSE THEY CAN'T AFFORD IT IT'S AN EQUITY ISSUE. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU. >>COUN. BORREGO: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCILORS? I DON'T SEE ANY. WITH THAT, I GUESS, WE'LL MOVE ON TO OUR VOTE. MS. ORTEGA. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. HARRIS: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. THANK YOU, COUNCILORS. I GUESS THAT'S THE LAST OF OUR AMENDMENTS. WE WILL MOVE BACK, COUNCILORS, TO OUR FLOOR SUBSTITUTE. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS AS AMENDED? I DON'T SEE ANY QUESTIONS IN THE QUEUE. WITH THAT, MS. ORTEGA, WE'LL MOVE TO THE VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. HARRIS: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. >> 9-0 ON FS2, AS AMENDED. >>COUN. BORREGO: WITH THAT, WE'LL MOVE TO COUNCILOR GIBSON'S ITEM WHICH IS R207. COUNCILOR GIBSON. >>COUN. GIBSON: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I'D LIKE TO MOVE A DUE PASS ON R-207. THIS IS THE RESOLUTION THAT WILL BE ACCEPTING A STUDY DONE ON MENAUL REDEVELOPMENT. >>COUN. BORREGO: I'LL SECOND YOUR MOTION. >>COUN. GIBSON: THANK YOU. I THINK IT MIGHT BE WISE TO GO AHEAD AND TURN THIS OVER TO MS. MORRIS. I BELIEVE WE ALSO HAVE THE PRINCIPAL FROM CP. LET'S HEAR FROM MS. MORRIS FIRST, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND. >>COUN. BORREGO: MS. MORRIS, ARE YOU THERE? >> GOOD AFTERNOON, MADAM PRESIDENT COUNCILORS. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ON THIS PROJECT. RESOLUTION 207 IS, AS COUNCILOR GIBSON MENTIONED, ACCEPTING THE -- THE STUDY GREW OUT OF PUBLIC COMMENT WAS A GOOD DESCRIPTION OF THE ISSUE IN THE MENAUL AREA. THERE'S AN INCREASE IN CRIME AND CONCERNS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT. IT'S AN IMPORTANT AREA IN TERMS OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. THERE IS 2,000 HOTELS IN THE VICINITY AND A LARGE NUMBER OF SMALL BUSINESSES IN AN INDUST RAL AREA. THIS IS AN IMPORTANT PART OF ECONOMIC REALM OF ALBUQUERQUE. IT'S ALSO AN AREA THAT IS SEEING REALLY SIGNIFICANT DISINVESTMENT. OUR POSTER CHILD WAS THE RANGE CAFE LEAVING MENAUL AFTER 20 YEARS IN THAT LOCATION. THIS STUDY IS PART OF A THREE PHASE APPROACH. IT'S THE FIRST PHASE OF THE APPROACH. FOR THE FIRST PHASE WE'RE LOOKING AT THE LARGER STUDY AREA THAT'S BY SAN MATEO, I-40 AND CANDELARIA. AND LOOKING AT THIS LARGE AREA AND ONLY THE COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL PROPERTIES IN THE AREA, NOT ANY OF THE RESIDENTIAL, IT LOOKS AT BUSINESS RETAIL ANALYSIS INCLUDED LAND USE AND ZONING RESEARCH FOR THE AREA TO COMMUNITY MEETINGS. IT'S A WEBSITE WHERE WE'RE ABLE TO TAKE COMMENT FROM THE COMMUNITY. LOOKING AT ALL OF THE ISSUES THE REPORT THAT'S BEFORE US CONTAINS A NUMBER OF RECOMMENDATIONS. ONE RECOMMENDATION IS THE PHASES OF THE METROPOLITAN REDEVELOPMENT AREA BE CONSIDERED FOR MENAUL BUT FOR A MUCH SMALLER SUBSET OF THE AREA STUDIED. THE MRA IS RECOMMENDED TO BE PROPERTIES THAT FRONT MENAUL BETWEEN I-25 AND THE NORTH DIVERSION CHANNEL. IT MAKES RECOMMENDATIONS NOT CONNECTED TO AN MR. SUCH AS IMPROVEMENT TO LIGHTING IN THE AREA. SOME KEY LOCATIONS OF CAMERAS TO BE PLACED. TRAIL IMPROVEMENTS, A SUBSTATION AND FIELD BRIEFINGS TO OCCUR IN THE AREA AS WELL AS TRANSIT STOP IMPROVEMENTS. I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS. >>COUN. BORREGO: ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OF MS. MORRIS? I SEE JACKIE FISHMAN IN THE QUEUE. I'M WONDERING IF SHE'S WAITING TO SPEAK AS WELL? COUNCILOR GIBSON? >>COUN. GIBSON: YES, WE DO HAVE FISHMAN WHO LED THIS STUDY. I THINK IT WAS HELPFUL TO HEAR FROM HER FOR A FEW MINUTES, IF SHE WOULDN'T MIND. >>COUN. BORREGO: MS. FISHMAN. >> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. JACKIE FISHMAN WITH CONSENSUS PLANNING. THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME SPEAK. I DON'T HAVE A LOT TO ADD. I THINK THIS WAS A GOOD PROJECT AND A VERY IMPORTANT ONE FOR OUR CENTRAL ALBUQUERQUE AREA. I'M ANXIOUS TO START ON THE NEXT PHASES OF THE PROJECT. I THINK WE HAD A GOOD RANGE OF RECOMMENDATIONS AS SHE MENTIONED. SOME OF THEM HAVE TO DO WITH MR DESIGNATIONS. SEVERAL OTHERS AREN'T DEPENDENT ON MR AND I THINK IT HELPS ADDRESS THE CONCERNS WE HEARD FROM THE BUSINESS OWNERS AND OTHER PARTICIPANTS THAT WE MET WITH AND TALKED TO AND ALSO WE DID A BUSINESS OWNER SURVEY TOO. THERE'S TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF CONCERN ABOUT CRIME IN THE AREA. THIS INVESTMENT IN ADDITION TO THE RANGE RESTAURANT, SEVERAL OTHER RESTAURANTS HAVE CLOSED ALONG THE MENAUL CORRIDOR. THAT'S WHY WE REALLY FOCUS THE MR AREA, AT LEAST OUR RECOMMENDATION TO BE FROM I-25 TO THE DIVERSION CHANNEL AND THOSE PROPERTIES FACING MENAUL. I THINK IT WOULD BENEFIT THE AREA AND HOPEFULLY ENCOURAGE THE EXISTING BUSINESS OWNERS NOT TO MOVE OUT. WE HEARD FROM A LOT OF HOTEL OWNERS THAT THEY'RE JUST HAVING CRIME ISSUES. VANDALLISM, AND A LOT OF COMPLAINTS FROM THEIR PATRONS. WE'RE HOPING THIS IS GOING TO HELP THIS AREA A LOT. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, MS. FISHMAN. COUNCILOR GIBSON, I WONDER IS THE REDEVELOPMENT OFFICIAL ALSO WITH US TO SPEAK? KARENIVE -- >>COUN. GIBSON: I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T SEE HER ON HERE. I DON'T SEE EVERYONE. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, SHE IS NOT HERE TODAY. >>COUN. GIBSON: I CAN ADD THAT WE DID RECEIVE A LETTER FROM HER. COMPLIMENTING THE REPORT. I TAKE THAT AS HIGH PRAISE. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR. DIRECTOR, DID YOU WANT TO ADD SOMETHING? >> I DID NOT, COUNCILOR. WITH THAT, COUNCILOR GIBSON. >>COUN. GIBSON: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. THIS REALLY IS AN AREA THAT IS IMPORTANT TO THE CITY. IT'S AT THE CROSS ROADS OF I-25 AND I-40. HIGHLY VISIBLE. AS I STATED DURING THE LUPS MEETING, THERE'S STILL A LOT OF INVESTMENT THERE. LONGTIME GENERATIONAL INVESTMENT. WE WOULD LIKE TO STOP CURTAIL IN THIS INVESTMENT BEFORE IT GETS TO SUCH A POINT WHERE IT'S EVEN MORE DIFFICULT TO BRING BACK THE AREA. I URGE EVERYONE'S SUPPORT ON THIS. IT'S A GOOD REPORT, IF YOU GET A CHANCE, I HOPE YOU TAKE A LOOK AT IT. IT'S A REALLY INTERESTING REVELATION. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR GIBSON. I DON'T SEE ANY COUNCILORS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS. WITH THAT, I JUST WANT TO REMIND COUNCILOR GIBSON THAT WHEN I WAS FIRST ELECTED SHE AND I DROVE THE AREA AND TALKED ABOUT REDEVELOPMENT STUDY FOR THIS PARTICULAR AREA. I WONDER IF SHE REMEMBERS THAT. IT'S WONDERFUL TO SEE THAT THIS IS MOVING FORWARD. I THINK AS A FORMER REDEVELOPMENT OFFICIAL FOR THE CITY IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT A LOT OF OUR AREAS ARE OLDER AREAS OF TOWN ARE IN DECLINE AND THEY'RE IN NEED OF A LOT OF SERVICES AND A LOT OF IMPROVEMENTS. I'M GLAD SEE THIS AREA IS LOOKED AT AND WE AS A CITY VALUE THESE OLDER NEIGHBORHOODS. I'M HAPPY TO SUPPORT THIS, COUNCILOR GIBSON. WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD, UNLESS COUNCILOR GIBSON HAS SOMETHING ELSE, I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE TO A VOTE. MS. ORTEGA. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. HARRIS: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. >> 9-0 ON R207. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILORS, THAT PASSES ON A 9-0 VOTE. I JUST ALSO WANTED TO MAKE A MENTION OF THE REDEVELOPMENT FUND WHICH IS A SMALL FUND. I KNOW THAT I WON'T BE SERVING ON COUNCIL IN THE FUTURE BUT I WOULD RECOMMEND HIGHLY THAT THE COUNCIL TAKE A LOOK AT THAT FUND AND JUST -- BECAUSE THE NEEDS ARE SO GREAT AND THAT FUND IS VERY LIMITED. I WOULD PUT THAT ON THE TABLE. I'M SURE MS.IVERSON WOULD HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY ABOUT THAT IF SHE WERE HERE TONIGHT. WITH THAT, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO FINAL ACTIONS. O-50. THIS IS COUNCILOR DAVIS AND COUNCILOR BENTON. WHICH ONE OF YOU WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTION? >>COUN. DAVIS: SURE, MADAM PRESIDENT. FOR PURPOSES OF DISCUSSION I'LL MOVE APPROVAL OF ITEM O -- MOVE A DUE PASS FOR O-50. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR DAVIS. IS LOOKS LIKE COUNCILOR BENTON SECONDS THAT'S MOTION. WE HAVE A MOTION TO DEFER UNTIL JANUARY 19th. WE HAVE A SECOND. MS. ORTEGA. >>COUN. DAVIS: MADAM PRESIDENT. >>COUN. BORREGO: I'M SORRY. I GOT AHEAD OF MYSELF. COUNCILOR DAVIS. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU, MADAM. IF IT PLEASES THE PRESIDENT, THE ADMINISTRATION HAS A VERY BRIEF SLIDE PRESENTATION. THE COUNCIL HAS GONE BACK AND FORTH ABOUT THIS. ABOUT HOW WE BETTER ACCOUNT FOR AND ARE TRANSPARENT WITH RECONCILIATION AND THE BUDGET DURING THE YEAR. WE'VE GONE BACK AND FORTH WITH THE ADMINISTRATION NEARLY NINE MONTHS ON TRYING TO IDENTIFY EXACTLY HOW MUCH MONEY IS MOVED OUTSIDE OF THE PROJECT PROCESS. WE LEARNED THAT THE CITY DIDN'T HAVE PROCESS FOR TRACKING THAT. OUTSIDE OF THE ITEMS THAT WERE DONE. WE'VE REACHED A PROPOSAL WE'D LIKE TO PRESENT AND TAKE ANY COMMENT THAT ALLOWS THE ADMINISTRATION TO BEGIN REPORTING TO THE COUNCIL ON A REGULAR BASIS WHEN IT MOVES MUN FROM AN APPROPRIATED FUND TO ALTERNATIVE USE. WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE ADMINISTRATION PRESENT THAT VERY BRIEFLY THIS EVENING. I THINK IT'S A HALF DOZEN SLIDES JUST ABOUT HOW THE PROCESS WOULD WORK. IF THE COUNCIL IS CONSENTING WE WOULD BE WILLING TO WITHDRAWAL THIS BILL AND RECONSIDER IT AS PART OF THE BUDGET PROCESS NEXT YEAR. IF IT PLEASES THE PRESIDENT, I'D LIKE TO ASK THE ADMINISTRATION TO DO THAT VERY BRIEF PRESENTATION. >>COUN. BORREGO: IS THERE ANYONE OPPOSED TO THAT? I DON'T SEE ANYONE OPPOSED. WE'LL MOVE TO THE ADMINISTRATION FOR THAT PRESENTATION. >> THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILORS. I'M GOING TO SHARE MY SCREEN. I'M LAWRENCE DAVIS THE CITY BUDGET OFFICER. MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR DAVIS, WE'LL HAVE A BRIEF PRESENTATION FOR YOU TODAY. AND WE'LL PRESENT A PROPOSED SOLUTION FOR A REQUEST FROM THE SPONSORS OF 0-21-50. WE'LL CALL THIS AS THE QUARTERLY REPORT. WHAT WE DID RECEIVE AND WHAT WE HEARD THE ADMINISTRATION MET WITH THE SPONSORS OF O-21-50. AND WHAT WE'RE WILLING TO ADD TO THE OMB QUARTERLY PROJECTION REPORT IS ADDITIONAL INFORMATION. WHAT WAS THE REQUEST? AND AS COUNCILOR DAVIS MENTIONED, IT'S FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION FOR USE OF FUNDING FROM ONE MAIN BUDGET CATEGORY TO SUPPORT THE OTHER BUDGET CATEGORY AND VICE VERSA. THE MAIN CATEGORIES THAT COUNCILOR DAVIS WAS REFERRING TO ARE OFTEN REFERRED TO ARE ABOVE THE LINE WHICH ARE PERSONNEL BUDGET COST AND BELOW THE BORDERLINE ARE OPERATING BUDGET COST OR TRANSACTIONS. FOR EXAMPLE, THE INTRODUCE OF PERSONNEL FUNDING TO SUPPORT A CONTRACT, REPAIR OR SUPPLY PURCHASE OR PURCHASES. IN THE END, THE ADMINISTRATION AGREES TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION FOR ACTIVITY THAT USES SAVINGS FROM ONE MAIN BUDGET CATEGORY TO SUPPORT ANOTHER AND ATTACH THIS TO OMB'S QUARTERLY REPORTING. TO GIVE YOU SOME BACKGROUND INFORMATION, COUNCILORS, WHERE DO THE SAVINGS COME FROM? VACANCY SAVINGS YOU OFTEN REFER TO AND GIVE A PRESENTATION TO COUNCILORS AT THE REQUEST OF COUNCILOR BASSAN A FEW MONTHS BACK. THESE VACANCIES SAVINGS ARE DERIVED FROM THE AMOUNT OF SAVINGS ABOVE THE SALARY SAVINGS AND ESTABLISHED FOR EACH DEPARTMENT. FOR EXAMPLE, DEPARTMENT S HAS AN INITIAL PERSONNEL BUDGET OF $100. AND HAS A SALARY SAVING RATE OF 10% FOR FY22. OMB WILL BUDGET $90 FOR DEPARTMENT X'S PERSONNEL COST. ANY VACANCY SAVINGS DERIVED FROM RETIREMENT, AND SEPARATIONS ABOVE THE $10 THAT WAS NOT APPROPRIATED CAN BE USED FOR OTHER THINGS AND OTHER DEPARTMENTAL NEEDS. A FEW EXAMPLES. VACANCY SAVINGS. FOR FY21 IN THE FIRST QUARTER OF FY22 WERE HIGH BECAUSE OF HIRING FREEZE AND SLOW DOWNS. WE DID PULL BACK IN FY21. THAT'S WHY WE WERE ABLE TO CONTINUE THE SERVICES WE WERE GOING THROUGH THE PANDEMIC. THE SAME SHORTAGES IN THE LABOR MARKET. AS THE PUBLIC AND PRIVATE MARKET ARE EXPERIENCING ACROSS THE COUNTRY. IN THESE HARD TO RECRUIT POSITIONS, THE ENGINEERING, ACCOUNTING, PLANNING, BUS DRIVERS. ALL THESE POSITIONS ACCOUNT FOR HIGHER VACANCY RATES. THAT'S WHERE THE VACANCY RATES ARE DERIVED FROM. ANOTHER EXAMPLE IS CYCLICAL ISSUES LIKE APD AND AFR. WE BUDGET AS ACCURATELY AS POSSIBLE BUT ARE CONSERVATIVE WITH HIRING ESTIMATES WHEN WE BUDGET FOR THESE. EVEN THOUGH THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE ACADEMY OR START MID-YEAR WE'RE REALLY CONSERVATIVE. IF THEY'RE ANTICIPATING STARTING MIDYEAR WE MIGHT BUDGET FOR NINE MONTHS. IF THEY KNOW THROUGH THE ACADEMY WE BUDGET AT THE BEGINNING OF THE ACADEMY. SO THERE'S SUFFICIENT BUDGET TO COVER THOSE HIRING ISSUES. THAT COVERS THE VACANCY SAVINGS COMPONENT. OPERATIONAL SAVINGS IS EASY. THEY'RE DERIVED FROM MAINTENANCE TRAVEL SUPPLIES BELOW THE LINE OPERATIONAL AMOUNTS THAT REMAIN UNUSED. WE MAY HAVE A CONTRACT THAT FOR A SPECIFIC VENDOR THAT THE SERVICES ARE NO LONGER NEEDED OR IT WENT OUT FOR RFP AND WE GET IT AT A REDUCED COST. OUR DEPARTMENT STAFF MAY NOT TRAVEL AS MUCH. THAT'S WHERE THE OPERATIONAL SAVINGS ARE DERIVED FROM THAT WE USE TO OFFSET TO GO ABOVE OR BELOW THE LINE FOR THOSE SAVINGS. THE NEXT SLIDE, COUNCILORS, IS WHY IS THE MONEY MOVED BETWEEN BUDGET CATEGORIES. WE HAVE A FEW EXAMPLES. THE CURRENT PRACTICE IS WHEN UNEXPECTED OR UNPLANNED EXPENSES OCCUR THEY MUST MANAGE WITHIN APPROPRIATION. SOME EXAMPLES INCLUDE IF AN HVAC FAILURE OCCURS THE DEPARTMENT MUST ABSORB THE COST WITHIN THE APPROPRIATION. IN THIS CASE, IT MIGHT BE PERSONNEL SAVING. ANOTHER REAL EXAMPLE IS THE EXAMPLE HERE AT CITY HALL. WE HAVE ISSUES WITH HVAC SYSTEM DMD HAD TO ABSORB THAT COST. SO WE HAD COOLING OR HEATING IN THE WINTER. ANOTHER EXAMPLE IS WHEN SOMEONE QUITS OR RETIRES FROM AN ESSENTIAL POSITION AND WE CAN'T FIND A GOOD HIRE IMMEDIATELY WE NEED TO REPLACE THEM WITH TEMPORARY WORKERS WHICH IS CONTRACTTUAL SERVICES. WE HIRE TEMPORARY WORKERS FOR CONTRACT DOLLARS. ANOTHER EXAMPLE FOR EMERGENCIES, IN FY21 THIS ALLOWED US TO CONTINUE. THE ADMINISTRATION IMPLEMENTED A HIRING FREEZE AND SLOWED DOWN HIRING SO WE CAN CONTINUE TO PAY FOR THE CONTRACT OBLIGATIONS WE HAD. WE MIGHT MOVE OPERATIONAL TO PERSONNEL IN ORDER TO MAKE NEW POSITIONS OR ADJUSTMENTED WHICH HAVE BEEN ESPECIALLY IMPORTANT FOR RETAINING PEOPLE AND CREATING CAREER LADDERS. SOMETIMES WHAT WE DO IS WE HAVE CERTAIN INDIVIDUALS OR CLASSES THAT WE REALLY WANT TO HOLD ON THEM TO THEM OR GIVE THEM X AMOUNT OF INCREASE. CAN WE SACRIFICE PART OF THE CONTRACT SERVICES TO PERFORM THAT? AS LONG AS IT'S BUDGET NEUTRAL THAT'S FINE WITH BUDGET. WHAT THEY'LL DO IS USE CONTRACT SERVICES TO GIVE X EMPLOYER CERTAIN CLASS OF-PLEASE INCREASES. AS LONG AS IT'S BUDGET NEUTRAL, BUDGET IS FINE. IN ADDITION THIS INFORMATION IS TRACKED YEAR TO YEAR TO ADJUST THE BUDGET REQUEST BASED ON PRIOR YEAR SPENDING. NOT TO GO TOO FAR INTO IT. I WANT TO MAKE IT A BRIEF PRESENTATION BUT WE GATHER THIS INFORMATION DURING THE BUDGET REQUEST AND DURING THE BUDGET CYCLE. NOW IN DECEMBER WE'LL ISSUE THE BUDGET FORMS AND ALL THE DEPARTMENTS HAVE TO REPORT ALL THIS INFORMATION BACK TO US AND IT ALIGNS YEAR TO YEAR. THE NEXT -- WHAT'S THE SOLUTION? COUNCILOR DAVIS SAID, THERE'S NO STANDARDIZED REPORT PRIOR TO THIS. THE SOLUTION IS ADDITIONAL INFORMATION WILL BE INCLUDED IN OMB'S QUARTERLY REPORT AND ITEMIZE THE USE OF SAVING FROM CATEGORY TO THE OTHER. SAVINGS ACTIVITY THAT CROSS THE THEORETICAL BUDGET LINE ABOVE THE LINE REPRESENTED PERSONNEL AND BELOW THE LINE REPRESENTS OPERATIONAL COST AND ANY USE OF SAVINGS THAT CROSS THE LINE WILL BE CAPTURED IN THIS REPORT. THERE WILL BE NO DOLLAR THRESHOLD AS OF NOW. THIS WILL ALLOW FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION AND ACCOUNT FOR ALL TRANSACTIONS THAT CROSS THE LINE. WHETHER IT'S A DOLLAR OR 10,000 IT'S GOING TO BE INCLUDED IN THIS REPORT TO PROVIDE COUNCIL AND THE ADMINISTRATION THE NECESSARY INFORMATION THAT WE WANT TO DERIVE FROM THIS REPORT. NEXT THE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION WILL BE ORGANIZED BY DEPARTMENT, IF COUNCILORS OR THE ADMINISTRATION WANT TO SAY THIS SPECIFIC DEPARTMENT IDEA WITHIN DMD OR ANIMAL WELFARE I WANT TO KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING. IF WE SEE A LONG LIST COMING FROM A SPECIFIC DEPARTMENT OR DEPARTMENT I.D. YOU CAN ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES AND DIG INTO THE DETAILS. THE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION WILL ALSO CONTAIN SAVINGS AND USE DESCRIPTIONS. WHERE WAS IT DEVIVED FROM, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO USE IT FOR. THE COUNCIL WILL RECEIVE A YEAR END FISCAL REPORT THAT CAPTURES THE ACTIVITY FOR THE FISCAL YEAR. YOU DON'T HAVE A FOURTH QUARTER PROJECTION REPORT. WE PROVIDE ACTUALS AT THAT POINT. YOU WILL RECEIVE A COMPREHENSIVE FINAL REPORT FOR THE QUARTERLY SAVINGS USE REPORT. HOW ARE WE GOING TO ACCOMPLISH THIS? THE ADMINISTRATION WILL ISSUE A DIRECTF CREATING THE FRAMEWORK METHODOLOGY, TIMELINE AND RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE ADMINISTRATION OF THE REPORT. JUST TO OUTLINE SOME BRIEF BENEFITS OF THE QUARTERLY SAVINGS USE REPORT. IT PROVIDES ADDITIONAL INFORMATION. ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, ADDITIONAL INSIGHT INTO WHAT THE ADMINISTRATION IS USING FOR POTENTIAL ABOVE THE LINE AND BELOW THE LINE ACTIVITY. IT WILL SERVE AS AN ADDITIONAL BUDGET MANAGEMENT TOOL. I THINK COUNCILOR DAVIS SPECIFICALLY MENTIONED IT. WE WANTED ADDITIONAL INFORMATION TO MANAGE THE BUDGET IN A BETTER WAY. IT WOULD ALSO BE AN ADDITIONAL PLANNING TOOL AND PROVIDE GREATER INSIGHT FOR THE CAMP LIGZ -- CAMPILATION. IF WE SEE 30 BELOW THE LINE TRANSACTION ACTIONS, WE MAY NEED TO LOOK AT THE DEPARTMENT AND HELP THEM BUDGET MORE ACCURATELY. COUNCILORS, TO END THE PRESENTATION, THIS IS A SCREENSHOT OF THE PROPOSED REPORT AND IT IS SAVING FROM AND SAVING TO. THE BLUE HIGHLIGHTED COLUMNS AND ROWS OF INFORMATION. THIS IS A SNAPSHOT. I'LL SHOW YOU A BIGGER REPORT IN A MINUTE. WE TRIED TO CAPTURE AS MANY DEPARTMENTS AS WE COULD TO GIVE YOU A REPORT OF WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE. THE BLUE HIGHLIGHTED IS SAVING FROM. WE START WITH A NUMERIC ID WITH SAVINGS FROM. LET'S SAY, LET ME BACK UP. THIS CAPTURES THE MANY TO ONE OR ONE TO MANY RELATIONSHIPS THAT SOME OF THESE TRANSACTIONS MAY HAVE. LET'S TAKE ANIMAL WELFARE. THEY MAY WANT TO USE CONTRACT SAVING, MAINTENANCE, SUPPLIES AND TRAVEL FROM ALL FOUR CATEGORIES AND WE WANT TO INCREASE SALARIES AND COMPENSATION FOR THESE INDIVIDUALS. THAT WOULD HAVE A MANY TO ONE RELATIONSHIP AND THAT'S WHY THIS NUMERIC ID IS IMPORTANT FOR CAPTURING THAT. LET'S SAY ALL THOSE FOUR CATEGORIES AMOUNT TO $100,000, IT'S ONLY GOING TO BE RELATE TO ONE AND SAVING TO. THAT'S WHAT ALLOWS US TO CAPTURE THAT. THE NEXT COLUMN ARE DEPARTMENT PROGRAM, YOU GET THE DESCRIPTION OF WHERE THE SAVINGS ARE DERIVED FROM. IN THIS CASE, VACANCY SAVINGS. VACANCY SAVINGS AND WE CAN HAVE A COMMENT BOX OFF TO THE SIDE AND THAT PROVIDES ADDITIONAL INFORMATION. THE FINAL COLUMN IS THE AMOUNT OF SAVINGS. HOW MUCH. HOW MUCH ARE YOU GOING TO USE IN VAC IN AS -- WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO USE IT FOR NOW. HOW MUCH ARE YOU GOING TO USE AND WHERE? IT GIVE YOU THE DEPARTMENT PROGRAM AND DEPARTMENT ID. IT GIVES YOU THE GENERAL USE DESCRIPTION. YOU SAID YOU'RE GOING TO USE VACANCY SAVINGS FOR LEASE PAYMENTS. NOW PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL. AND IN THE SECOND ONE FOR ANIMAL WELFARE, THEY CAN USE VACANCY SAVINGS $27,000. AND YOU'RE GOING TO USE IT FOR TEMP SERVICE CONTRACTS. SO, IF YOU OR THE ADMINISTRATION WANTS MORE DETAIL THEY CAN DIG DOWN INTO THIS AND OF COURSE THIS IS ALWAYS THE PLAN. IF A DEPARTMENT SAYS THE PLAN WAS TO USE $27,000 AND WE ONLY USED $25,000, THAT'S WOULD BE UP TO THE DEPARTMENT. THIS IS THE GENERAL PLAN TO CAPTURE FOR YOU THE ACTIVITY BETWEEN THE ABOVE THE LINE AND BELOW THE LINE. WE'RE CAPTURING IT BOTH WAYS, COUNCILORS. TYPICALLY, I KNOW SOME OTHER ENTITIES LIKE CAPTURING IT JUST TELLING ME WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO USE ABOVE THE LINE SAVING FROM THE BELOW. THIS REPORT IS ACTUALLY CAPTURING IT BOTH WAYS. I'M GOING TO STOP SHARING MY SCREEN. I WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU WHAT THE REPORT THAT THE BRIEF SNAPSHOT OF THE REPORT. I WANT YOU SEE THE WAY THE FULL REPORT MAY LOOK. WE CAN WORK WITH THIS IF YOU WANT TO SEE IT IN A DIFFERENT FORMAT. THIS IS JUST A BRIEF PDF OF WHAT I ANTICIPATE THE REPORT LOOKING LIKE. THIS IS FISCAL YEAR 22, QUARTER TWO. YOU HAVE MANY DEPARTMENTS. ANIMAL WELFARE. IT'S AN ALPHA-ORDER. TO THE RIGHT, WE ACTUALLY HAVE THE PERCENTAGE OF BUDGET MOVE. THE TRANSACTIONS FOR ANIMAL WELFARE, AND THESE AREN'T ALL THE TRANSACTIONS. THESE ARE JUST EXAMPLES THAT THEY EACH BUDGET ANALYST INSERTED TO GET A FLAVOR FOR THE REPORT. YOU TAKE $180,000 AND DIVIDE IT BY ANIMAL WELFARE BUDGET. RIGHT NOW IT'S 1.33% OF THE BUDGET. YOU SCROLL DOWN. HOW MUCH ARE YOU MOVING ABOVE AND BELOW THE LINES. YOU CAN SEE DIFFERENT EXAMPLES OF USING ABOVE THE LINE TO BELOW THE LINE. HERE'S AN EXAMPLE FROM EHD WHERE THEY USE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES BELOW THE LINE TO FUND ABOVE THE LINE WAGE ADJUSTMENTS. IN THE END, WE ALSO HAVE FINAL PAGE TOTAL GENERAL FUND. WHAT'S OUR TOTAL GENERAL FUND BUDGET, OF COURSE, THIS IS ONLY FOR GENERAL FUND. IN THE END, WE HAVE MOVEMENT OF $6.1 MILLION. HOW DOES IT RELATE TO THE TOTAL BUDGET OF 714, 521. WE LESS -- >>COUN. BORREGO: MR. DAVIS, COULD YOU WRAP IT UP A LITTLE BIT. THERE'S A LOT OF DETAIL HERE. WHILE WE APPRECIATE IT, IT'S -- WE WOULD LIKE TO MOVE ON WITH THE MEETING. >> LET ME STOP SHARING. SORRY, MADAM PRESIDENT. THAT'S ALL I HAD. YOU CAUGHT ME AT THE RIGHT MOMENT. I JUST WANT TO PROVIDE AS MUCH DETAIL AS I COULD. WITH THAT, I'LL STAND FOR ANY QUESTION. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU. I THINK COUNCILORS PROBABLY WANT TO DEAL MORE WITH POLICY THAN GETTING IN THE WEEDS. WE APPRECIATE YOUR INSIGHT AND ALWAYS APPRECIATE YOUR PROFESSIONALISM. COUNCILORS, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. DAVIS? COUNCILOR DAVIS. COUNCILOR DAVIS, YOUR HAND IS UP. >>COUN. DAVIS: I'M SORRY. I WAS GOING TO SAY, IF ANY OTHER COUNCILORS WANT TO GO AHEAD I'LL USE IT AS A CLOSE. >>COUN. BORREGO: COUNCILORS, ANYONE ELSE? COUNCILOR BENTON. >>COUN. BENTON: THANKS, MADAM PRESIDENT. JUST QUICKLY, I APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION. I THINK YOU CAN SEE THAT THIS COULD REALLY BE USEFUL FOR US. WE ENCOUNTER THESE VACANCY SAVING SO OFTEN WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THE BUDGETS. AND THIS REALLY PUTS IT OUT THERE. I KNOW THAT AT FIRST FINANCE WAS CONCERNED THIS WAS GOING TO BE A MAJOR IMPOSITION IN TERMS OF TIME. I HOPE IT'S NOT FOR THEM. I THINK IT'S REALLY INFORMATIVE. I APPRECIATE IT. I'LL TURN IT OVER TO COUNCILOR DAVIS WHO DID MOST OF THE HEAVY LIFTING ON THE COUNCIL SIDE. >>COUN. BORREGO: COUNCILOR DAVIS. >>COUN. DAVIS: MADAM PRESIDENT, I KNOW FOLKS ARE READY TO GO. I'LL MAKE IT QUICK. I COMMEND MR. DAVIS, RENÉ, THE ENTIRE TEAM THAT WORKED ALMOST A YEAR ON THIS. I WOULD BE THE FIRST TO ADMIT THAT ALL THESE MEETINGS DIDN'T GO WELL. US ASKING QUESTIONS THAT WE DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO ANSWER WAS REALLY HARD. I THINK WHAT WE CAME UP WITH, AND I APPRECIATE THE WAY THE ADMINISTRATION APPROACHED THIS, PARTICULARLY TODAY, IN SAYING THAT WE SHARE A NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHERE THE TAXPAYER DOLLARS ARE GOING AND THE BUDGET PROCESS DOESN'T END WHEN THE MAYOR SIGNED THE BUDGET. WE HAVE ON GOING DUTY. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT A $714 MILLION BUDGET, WE OFTEN PASS BUDGETS IN BUCKETS. AND GETTING INTO THE DETAILS REALLY DOES MATTER SOMETIMES BECAUSE WHEN WE SPEND MONEY ON ONE THING AND NOT ANOTHER IT MEANS LESS IS AVAILABLE FOR SOMETHING ELSE. LOTS OF DISCRETION SHOULD GO TO THE SMART PEOPLE RUNNING THE DEPARTMENTS. WE WANT TO BE SURE THERE'S PLACES WHERE WE SEE SOME OF THESE EVERY YEAR. VACANCY SAVINGS OPEN. AND ALWAYS SEEM TO SPEND FOR THE SAME THING. MAYBE WE SHOULD PUT THAT THING IN THE BUDGET AND MAKE THOSE ADJUSTMENTS. I THINK THAT'S THE DETAIL THIS IS HELPING. I'M ANXIOUS SEE THIS. MY SPEECH IS LONGER THAN IT SHOULD BE. THIS PROCESS WAS LONG AND I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE HARD WORK OF EVERYONE ON THIS. THANK YOU, I THINK THIS IS GOOD. I HOPE THE COUNCIL WILL PASS THIS SO WE HAVE BETTER DATA IN THE FUTURE YEARS. THAT'S MY CLOSE. >>COUN. DAVIS: LASTLY, I DON'T THINK THAT'S OUR MOTION. I THINK I WOULD LIKE TO AMEND MY MOTION. BASED ON THIS REPORT, AND WE LIKE THIS REPORT TO GIVE US DATA, I'D LIKE TO AMEND THE MOTION TO WITHDRAW THE LEGISLATION SO WE CAN RECONSIDER THIS AT A FUTURE COUNCIL. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR DAVIS. WE HAVE A MOTION AND IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR BENTON TO WITHDRAW ITEM O-50. IF THERE'S NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, I DIDN'T MEAN TO CUT MR. DAVIS OFF. I THINK IT'S GREAT WHEN WE HAVE THESE SORTS OF TOOLS AND HAVING SAT ON COUNCIL AND BEEN IN STAFF POSITION I KNOW HOW IMPORTANT THESE TOOLS ARE. I APPRECIATE HIS PASSION. WITH THAT, WE WILL MOVE TO MS. ORTEGA FOR A VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. HARRIS: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. THANK YOU, COUNCILORS. THAT ITEM IS WITHDRAWN. WE HAVE TWO MORE ITEMS ON OUR AGENDA THIS EVENING. ITEM C AND ITEM G. COUNCILOR PEÑA, ITEM C. R-182. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. IT'S ESTABLISHING CORRIDOR IMPROVEMENTS FROM 118th STREET FROM I-40 TO DENNIS CHAVEZ BOULEVARD. ENCOURAGING THE NEW MEXICO DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION TO PRIORITIZE THE APPROVAL AND CONSTRUCTION OF AN INTERCHANGE AT INTERSTATE 40 AND 118th. I MOVE A DUE PASS. AND I ALSO HAVE A FLOOR SUBI'D LIKE TO MOVE. I THINK WE NEED THE DUE PASS AND I WILL MOVE A FLOOR SUB. >>COUN. BORREGO: COUNCILOR, IS THAT A MOTION? IT LOOKS LIKE YOU HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR BASSAN. IS THAT A SECOND, COUNCILOR BASSAN? >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU,MADAM PRESIDENT WE HAVE THE FLOOR SUB. I THINK IT'S IN YOUR iPADS. I HAVE A COPY IN FRONT OF ME AND THERE'S A TRACKING LEGEND THAT HAS THE CHANGES THAT WERE DEVELOPED AND THE GREEN LETTERS ARE THE CHANGES FOR THE FLOOR SUBSTITUTE. AND WE HAVE LANGUAGE ADDED. THAT'S ALL ON YOUR FLOOR SUB. I WOULD MOVE A DUE PASS ON THE FLOOR SUB, AND I WOULD ASK MR. TOM TO EXPLAIN SOME OF THE CHANGES. >>COUN. BORREGO: COUNCILOR, YOU'VE MOVED A FLOOR SUB. DO I HAVE A SECOND ON THE FLOOR SUB? COUNCILOR BASSAN, WE HAVE A SECOND. I APOLOGIZE, WE CAN ONLY SEE YOUR BODY. WE CAN'T SEE YOUR HEAD. >> I'M SORRY. >>COUN. BORREGO: IT WOULD BE NICE SEE YOUR FACE. >> I APOLOGIZE. WHAT THE FLOOR SUB DOES, IT DOES SEVERAL THINGS. IT INTRODUCES THE NUMBER OF WHEREAS CLAUSES EXPLAINING THE SOCIAL JUSTICE ISSUES THAT ARE IN THE SOUTHWEST MESA AND WHY THOSE ISSUES ARE RELEVANT TO THE CASE THAT THE AREA IS HAVING LOWER INCOME AS ONE OF THE FACT THAT THEY HAVE A LOWER INCOME. IT HAS A LARGE YOUTH POPULATION. THE NUMBER -- AND IT KNOWS FORWARD TO STATE A LOT OF THE WORKERS ARE FRONT LINE WORKERS AND THEY NEED TO ACCESS THIS AREA TO GO TO SHOP AND OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY. AND THE AREA DOES NOT HAVE A LOT OF RETAIL BECAUSE OF FAILURES BACK ALMOST 30 YEARS AGO IN OUR LAND USE ZONING PROCESS WHICH HAS LEFT THE AREA MILDLY HIGH DENSITY AREA OF HOUSING WITHOUT THE RETAIL SERVICES. I THINK THERE'S 80,000 PEOPLE IN THE AREA WHO HAVE VERY FEW RETAIL SERVICES. THIS INDICATES THE NEED FOR A ROAD WAY SYSTEM TO TRANSPORT NEMSELF OUT OF THE AREA. AND THE ROAD WAY SYSTEM WAS NOT FULLY DEVELOPED. IT WAS BEING DEVELOPED BY DEVELOPERS AS THEY BUILT THE SUBDIVISIONS. WITH THE CRASH OF 2007 THE ROAD SYSTEM IS PATCH WORK. AND SINCE THERE'S NOT MUCH DEVELOPMENT IN THE AREA SINCE THEN THE 82,000 PEOPLE HAVE LEFT WITH THIS PATCH WORK OF ROAD WAYS TO ACCESS THE AREA. IT FOLLOWS THAT AND HOW IT GOES WITH THE EQUITY POLICYS. THE OTHER THING IS DOES IS IT TAKE AS NUMBER OF AMENDMENTS AT THE LUPS PROCESS. IT REMOVES THEM AND REPLACES THEM INSTEAD WITH AN AMENDMENT THAT ARE MORE CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE FOUND LATER WITH THE COUNTY. WHAT HAPPENS IS THAT IN THE LUPS PROCESS BECAUSE LUPS IDENTIFIED MUCH OF THE ROAD WAY IS IN THE COUNTY THEY ASKED ONCE WE DO A 30% OF THE ROAD WAY THEY FORM AN MOU WITH THE COUNTY TO DETERMINE WHO WILL PAY FOR WHAT PARTS OF THE ROAD WAY. WHEN WE MET WITH THE COUNTY WE UNDERSTAND THEY HAD STARTED TO DO WORK ON THE ROADWAY. THEY INDICATED THEY WOULD BE WILLING TO PAY FOR THE 30%. WHAT'S KEY ABOUT 30%? IT ALLOWS TO COMPLETE THE DESIGN ANALYSIS REPORT. IN THAT REPORT YOU IDENTIFY EXACTLY WHERE YOUR RIGHT-OF-WAY IS, HOW MUCH IT WILL BE, IT WILL IDENTIFY THE ROADWAY CROSS SECTION YOU NEED TO BUILD, YOU IDENTIFY THE COST FOR IT. AND YOU CAN PROVIDE OTHER DESIGN. AND WITH THAT YOU NEGOTIATE HOW YOU BASE YOUR COST. WHAT THE COUNTY SAID WAS OUR JOEO BOND IS THE SIZE OF MAJOR PROJECTS USING OUR INTERNAL FUNDING. THAT IS THROUGH THE MR. COG PROCESS, APPLYING STPU GRANTS, THEY'RE AVAILABLE TO THE FEDERAL FAST ACT. OR THROUGH A MIXTURE OF CAPITAL OUTLAY. WHAT THEY SAID IS IT WOULD BE DIFFICULT FOR THEM TO ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO FORM A SET MOU WHERE THEY COULD ACTUALLY SAY AT THIS POINT WE'LL PROVIDE THIS AMOUNT OF FUNDING BECAUSE THEY JUST DON'T KNOW IF A GRANT WILL COME OR NOT. THEY WOULD LIKE TO WORK THE CITY TO FILE JOINTLY ON THE GRANT PROCESS. WITH THAT WE REMOVE THE NEED FOR AN OMOU BECAUSE FILING JOINTLY FOR MOU IS PROBABLY A FREEBIE FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM. NO LACK OF BETTER LANGUAGE. THAT WAS THAT. THE OTHER THING THAT MOVED THAT IS IN THE WRITE UP, I UNFORTUNATELY OMITTED THIS AMENDMENT FROM THE TRACKING DOCUMENT IS THAT THE COMMITTEE ALSO PASSED AN AMENDMENT TO STATE THAT ANY MONEY THIS PROJECT ACQUIRES IT WOULD BE ADDITIONAL MONEY AS COMPARED TO ANYTHING CURRENTLY PROGRAMMED NOW IN FUTURE YEARS OF OUR FEDERAL HIGHWAY SYSTEM IN THE CITY. THE REASON THE CITY PLANS THAT OUT IS THE HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT IN THE WAY WE'VE BUILT THE HIGHWAY SYSTEMS, STARTING IN THE MIDDLE OF 1990 IS THEY HAVE A SYSTEMATIC PROCESS. THAT'S A REBUILD OF I-40. WE'RE WORKING ON THE INTERSTATE AND IT'S NEARBY INTERCHANGES AND THEY FINISHED IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS INTERSTATE 25 NORTH OF MENUAL TOWARD TRAMWAY. THEY HAVE TWO PROJECTS. THEY GO TO THEIR LAST INTERCHANGE PROJECT WHICH IS THE AREA FROM COAL TO GIBSON. AND THAT IS THE LAST AREA TO BE REBUILT. I THINK THE COMMITTEE'S CONCERN WAS THAT THEY WOULD WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT DOESN'T GET BUMPED BACK FURTHER SINCE IT STANDS IF IT DOES OCCUR IT MAY NOT BE UNTIL 2027-2030 TIME FRAME. I REFER TO -- I GUESS THAT ALLOWS FOR I-40 AND 118th PROJECT TO APPLY FOR GRANTS AS THEY BECOME AVAILABLE. THEY DON'T WANT TOO MANY RESTRICTIONS ON THAT. THE OTHER ISSUE IS THE COMMITTEE PUT BACK IN WAS A REQUIREMENT THAT WE GO AHEAD AND LOOK ALONG THE CORRIDOR AND WORK WITH THE COUNTY TO FORM A WORKING GROUP FOR ZONING AND PLANNING TO SEE IF THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES ALONG THE CORRIDOR TO RECHANGE SOME OF THE ZONING FROM RESIDENTIAL TO COMMERCIAL TO GET MORE NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT COMMERCIAL IN THE AREA. 118th IT WILL BE AN ARTERIAL. THEY'RE WHAT RETAIL PREFER TO LOCK LOCATE BECAUSE THEY'RE FOUR TO SIX LANES AND THEY HAVE ACCESS TO DRIVE WAYS. THERE'S LIMITED ACCESS AND DON'T HAVE GOOD ACCESS OFF THE ROAD WAY EXCEPT AT MAJOR ROAD WAYS. THE FLOOR AMENDMENT JUST PUTS INTO THAT THEY WOULD HAVE THAT COMMITTEE. THIS DOESN'T GIVE TOO MUCH DETAILS ON WHAT THE COMMITTEE IS TO DO. THEY MEET TOGETHER. I THINK THE REASON BEING IS THAT SINCE THE LAND IS ALREADY ZONED ALL THE COMMITTEE CAN REALLY DO IS APPROACH PROPERTY OWNERS AND ASK IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO LOOK AT REZONING. THAT'S PRIMARILY WHAT THE FLOOR SUB DOES. I HAVE TO POINT OUT WE STILL HAVE ONE SECTION WHERE WE HAVE TO STILL WORK ON, THAT IS, WE HAVE TWO SECTION SIXES. WE'LL HAVE TO WORK TO CLARIFY THAT. ONE SECTION SIX, AND JUST SEE ONE SECTION SIX ADDS THE PROVISION THAT WE'LL WORK WITH THE COUNTY TO GET AN AGREEMENT GOING. ANOTHER SECTION SIX WOULD ADD IN THERE WILL BE A PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP EQUIVER -- EQUIVALENT TO THE UNSER AND PASEO PROJECTS. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE CAUGHT THIS AFTERNOON THAT WE NEED TO GET STRAIGHTENED OUT. THAT'S BAKELY A SUMMARY OF IT. >>COUN. GIBSON: THANK YOU. THE COUNCIL PRESIDENT HAS BEEN CALLED AWAY. I'LL BE TAKING OVER FOR A FEW MINUTES. THANK YOU FOR THAT, TOM. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCILOR BENTON, GO AHEAD. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR GIBSON. JUST TO CLARIFY, THE LANGUAGE HAVING TO DO WITH THE STATE DOT AND THE OTHER EXISTING PRIORITIES ON I-25, WILL THAT OR WILL THAT NOT BE IN THE FLOOR SUB? OR IS THAT A MOOT POINT? I GOT CONFUSED TOO. DID WE REMOVE THIS IN REGARD TO INTERSTATE? >> IT REMOVES THE LANGUAGE OF THE INTERSTATE. I OMITTED FROM THE TRACKING DOCUMENT. >>COUN. BENTON: IT'S REALLY REDUNDANT LANGUAGE BECAUSE THAT LANGUAGE BEING TAKEN OUT OF THE FLOOR SUB? >> CORRECT. >>COUN. BENTON: I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT. GO AHEAD. >> WITH THE INTERSTATE SYSTEM, AS WE POINTED OUT, IT HELPS GUIDE THE CITY. IT'S WHERE WE WANT OUR PRIORITIES. THE IN THE STATE SYSTEM IS UNDER THE JUS DICTION OF THE FEDERAL HIGHWAY SYSTEM. IT'S THE CORE OF THE UNITED STATES TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM. WHEN IT COMBHZ COMES TO WHERE THEY BUILD, THEY HOLD THAT TO THEIR DOMAIN. WE CAN MAKE A RECOMMENDATION. OF COURSE IF WE FIND FUNDS WE PROVIDE IT TO THEM AND SEE IF THEY WILD. AS FAR AS THE FUNDS THEY HAVE PROGRAMMED FOR THE INTERSTATE FUNDING, THEY PRETTY MUCH HOLD THAT DOMAIN TO WHERE THEY LIKE TO BUILD. THEY BUILD IT IN COORDINATION WITH THE FEDERAL HIGHWAY ADMINISTRATION TO WHAT THEY SEE AS A PRIORITY FOR MAINTAINING THE INTERSTATE SYSTEM THROUGHOUT THE UNITED STATES. >>COUN. BENTON: IF I MAY, THE OTHER ASPECT OF THIS IS THAT FROM THE CITY'S STANDPOINT, A LOT OF THE ROADWAYS REALLY BOUNDED BY THE COUNTY. AT LEAST ON ONE SIDE AND IN SOME PLACES ON TWO SIDES. >> ALMOST, COUNCILOR. A LOT OF THE ROADWAY IS WITHIN THE COUNTY. HERE'S THE SITUATION. THE FIRST PART THAT'S IN THE CITY IS ON THE SOUTH PART OF THE JURISDICTION OF THE BOUNDARIES. THAT IS FROM CESAR CHAVEZ TO THE WEST MESA. UP TO INTERSTATE 40, IT'S IN THE COUNTY. HOWEVER, IT'S COMPLETELY WITHIN THE COUNTY AND THE PARTS IN THE CITY. THAT'S ONE OF THE OTHER ISSUES I THINK WAS A LITTLE CONCERNED THE SPONSOR HAD WITH THE LUPS AMENDMENT. BY ALL LOGICS, SINCE MOST OF THE ROADWAY IS IN THE COUNTY THAT'S WHERE THE COUNTY SHOULD BE INVOLVED. THE CITY COMES UP -- THE CITY COMES TO WITHIN THREE OR FOUR HUNDRED FEET -- THE PART THAT'S IN THE COUNTY ON THE EAST SIDE OF IT, THE CITY STOPS WITHIN ABOUT 300 FEET OF THE ROADWAY. OF COURSE THAT'S RESIDENTIAL HOUSING FROM THERE TO COORS AND A LITTLE BIT BEYOND. AFTER THAT, IT'S VACANT TO THE RIGHT-OF-WAY WOULD BE FOR 118th STREET. AND PAST THAT IT'S VACANT TO THE LAGUNA PUEBLO LINE. FOR THE COUNTY'S PURPOSES, THEY CAN SAY IT'S A PRIORITY BUT WHO WOULD BE USING THIS IS THE CITY RESIDENTS. AND IT WOULD BE A CITY RESIDENT. IF WE HAVE ANY PRIORITIES WHAT WE HAVE TO DO IS WE HAVE TO LOOK AT AREAS WHERE WE HAVE NOT RESIDENTS THAT LIVE IN THE UNINCORPORATED COUNTY THAT NEED ADDITIONAL ROAD WAYS. THAT CAN BE SOUTH VALLEY, FAR FORTH EAST ALBUQUERQUE, EAST MOUNTAINS. THIS AREA IS NOT IN A DEVELOPED AREA. FROM THE CITY'S PURPOSE THE AREA WAS DEVELOPED 20 YEARS AGO. THE ROADWAY FALLS INTO A TWILIGHT ZONE. IT WOULD LOOK LIKE A COUNTY ISSUE, BUT THE WAY IT WILL OPERATE IT IS TO PROVIDE SERVICES FOR THE CITY RESIDENTS. I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS THAT THEY WANTED TO SEE HOW THE PROCESS DLUPZ AS BEFORE THEY WERE ABLE TO COMMIT TO ANYTHING REGARDING WHO PAYS FOR WHAT. >>COUN. BENTON: IF I MAY, I NEED TO CLARIFY THIS MORE. IF THIS IS PRIMARILY SERVING CITY RESIDENT AND A STONE'S THROW FROM THE CITY LIMIT, WOULDN'T NORMALLY WE BE ANNEXING THIS ROADWAY AND MAKING IT CITY ROADWAY IF THAT'S THE CASE? WE HAVE A SIMILAR EXAMPLE OF A ROADWAY WHERE THE CITY MAY, OR MAY NOT, IT SOUNDS LIKE MAY BE TAKING RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE MAIN PROJECT THAT THE COUNTY DOESN'T HAVE THE FUND. WOULDN'T THAT BE THE NORMAL COURSE OF ACTION? >> I CAN'T SPEAK TO THE ANNEXATION PROCESS. REGARDING ROADWAY DEVELOPMENT, PRIOR TO THE FORMATION OF THE WATER AUTHORITY WHERE THE CITY CONTROLLED THE WATER AND SEWER SYSTEM, YES, AS DEVELOPERS CAME IN THEY ASKED FOR ANNEXATION INTO THE CITY. AT THE THE TIME THEY ESTABLISHED THE WATER AUTHORITY, THERE'S ALSO CHANGES TO THE ANNEXATION BOUNDARIES RULES. SINCE THEN, WHEN COUNTY LANDS ARE DEVELOPED, THE DEVELOPERS ARE MOSTLY NOW KEEPING THEM WITHIN THE COUNTY. THAT'S THEIR PLAN SO FAR. THAT'S HISTORICALLY WHAT'S HAPPENED THE LAST 18 YEARS. I COULD WE WRONG. WHETHER OR NOT THE DEVELOPERS WOULD WANT TO COME TO THE CITY OR IF THE COUNTY WOULD WANT TO LET THEM IN, I CAN'T SPEAK TO THAT. >>COUN. BENTON: THIS IS COUNCILOR PEÑA'S DISTRICT, IT'S HER PROJECT. I SUPPORT THE PROJECT. I'VE SAID THAT REPEATEDLY. IT NEEDS TO HAPPEN. WHAT THE FINAL ROADWAY LOOKS LIKE AND WHAT THE LAND USES ARE THAT OCCUR ADJACENT TO IT WHETHER CITY OR COUNTY ARE IMPORTANT. PART OF THE QUESTION AND THE REASON I STUCK MY NOSE INTO IT, AND AND EXPLAINED TO COUNCILOR PEÑA, I THINK A ROAD IS NECESSARY THERE. THE QUESTION IS WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE. THAT'S MY CONCERN. I STILL FEEL CONFUSED ABOUT IT. I DON'T KNOW HOW OTHER COUNCILORS FEEL. WAS THE INTENTION TO DEFER THIS UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING? I DIDN'T GET CLEAR ON THAT. I AGREE THE THING ABOUT SECTION SIX WAS PART OF MY CONFUSION. >>COUN. PEÑA: MADAM VICE-PRESIDENT. >>COUN. GIBSON: BEFORE YOU ANSWER. LET ME ASK A QUESTION OF THE DIRECTOR. AS I RECALL, IF WE PASS THIS FLOOR SUB , WE ARE COMPELLED TO WAIT ONE MORE MEETING TO VOTE ON THIS. UNLESS WE SUSPENDED THE RULES. IS THAT A CORRECT STATEMENT? >> THAT IS EXACTLY CORRECT. >>COUN. GIBSON: THANK YOU. I'M SORRY, COUNCILOR PEÑA. GO AHEAD. >>COUN. PEÑA: MADAM VICE-PRESIDENT, I FORGOT WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY. >>COUN. GIBSON: I'M SORRY. I DIDN'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT YOUR TRAIN OF THOUGHT. WE'LL GO TO COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: MADAM VICE-PRESIDENT. I THINK THE QUESTION WAS COUNCILOR BENTON WAS WONDERING IF WE WERE GOING TO DEFER. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU. I APOLOGIZE. MY INTERNET KEEPS SAYING IT'S UNSTABLE. I'M HEARING EVERY THIRD WORD. THE INTENTION IS TO DEFER. THERE WAS SOME STUFF OMITTED AND IT'S GOING TO REQUIRE US TO DEFER THIS RESOLUTION. IT REALLY IS MY INTENT. I WOULD LOVE TO GO OUT AND TOUR THE AREA WITH YOU AND REALLY HAVE A CONVERSATION. THERE'S OTHER ROADS IN THE CITY, IF YOU LOOK AT 4th STREET, RIO GRANDE, NORTH VALLEY IT SERVES THE CITY BUT WE HAVE LOS RANCHOS THAT DRIVES THROUGH ON RIO GRANDE. IT'S NOT A PRIORITY, NECESSARILY. THE COUNTY MADE IT PRIORITY. PRIORITY IN TERMS OF REALLY ADVOCATING FOR THE DOLLARS TO GO THERE. I THINK THEY'RE LOOKING AT IT AS THE CITY. JUST LIKE ROADS LIKE 4th STREET ARE SERVING PRIMARILY CITY RESIDENTS. IT'S PRIMARILY COUNTY ROADS IN THAT AREA. JUST TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, I DO INTEND TO DEFER IT. >>COUN. GIBSON: OKAY, THANK YOU, COUNCILOR PEÑA. IS IT YOUR INTENTION TO VOTE ON THE FLOOR SUBAS IT IS? OR DID YOU WANT TO DEFER? >>COUN. PEÑA: I'D LIKE TO VOTE ON THE FLOOR SUBBECAUSE I'D LIKE TO VOTE ON IT AT THE NEXT MEETING. I WOULD ADD AMENDMENTS. THEY WOULD BE IN THE FORM OF AMENDMENTS. >>COUN. GIBSON: I'M SORRY. I THINK I MAY HAVE MISUNDERSTOOD. YOU WANT TO MOVE THE FLOOR SUB. AND THEN ADD SOME AMENDMENTS TO THE FLOOR SUB? >>COUN. PEÑA: RIGHT. I WOULD MOVE THE FLOOR SUB SO WE ACCEPT IT THIS EVENING AND THEN DEFER. >>COUN. GIBSON: OKAY. DO YOU HAVE AMENDMENTS TO THE FLOOR SUB? >>COUN. PEÑA: I THINK ANOTHER COUNCILOR MAY HAVE AN AMENDMENT. >>COUN. GIBSON: ALL RIGHT. THERE'S A MOTION TO MOVE THE FLOOR SUB. ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR ARE WE READY FOR A VOTE? I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. MS. ORTEGA, WOULD YOU DO THE VOTE FOR US? >> YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. HARRIS: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >> 8-0 ON THE FLOOR SUB. >>COUN. GIBSON: OKAY. NOW WE'RE BACK TO THE BILL. NOW THE MOTION IS FOR DEFERRAL, CORRECT? >>COUN. PEÑA: I THINK THERE MAY BE ANOTHER, MADAM VICE-PRESIDENT, ANOTHER COUNCILOR WHO MAY HAVE AN AMENDMENT. IF NOT, I WOULD MOVE THE DEFERRAL. >>COUN. GIBSON: OKAY. IS THERE AN AMENDMENT LINGERING? I GUESS WE'RE NOT READY TO MOVE THAT AMENDMENT, MAYBE. I DON'T KNOW WHERE IT IS. >>COUN. PEÑA: OKAY. I WOULD MOVER -- MOVE A DEFERRAL FOR TWO WEEKS. >>COUN. GIBSON: THAT WILL TAKE US TO THE 15th, I BELIEVE. NOVEMBER 15th. IS THERE A SECOND FOR THE MOTION TO DEFER? THERE'S A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR BENTON. THANK YOU FOR THAT. WE'LL GO BACK TO MS. ORTEGA FOR THE ROLL CALL VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. HARRIS: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >> 8-0 ON THE DEFERRAL AS SUBSTITUTED. >>COUN. GIBSON: THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THAT. ALL RIGHT, WE JUST HAVE ONE LAST ITEM. PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG. COUNCILOR BASSAN, RULE AMENDMENT SIX. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU. RULE AMENDMENT SIX AMENDING ARTICLE THREE SECTION SIX OF THE CITY COUNCIL RULES PROCEDURE RELATE TO ADDING OR UPDATING CITY ORDINANCE BILLS. I MOVE A DUE PASS. >>COUN. GIBSON: DO WE HAVE SAEKD -- SECOND FOR THAT MOTION? >>COUN. PEÑA: WHERE ARE WE? I APOLOGIZE. >>COUN. GIBSON: WE'RE ON COUNCILOR BASSAN'S RULE AMENDMENT R-86. >>COUN. PEÑA: I'LL SECOND THE MOTION. AGAIN, MY INTERNET IS UNSTABLE. SORRY. >>COUN. GIBSON: WE DO HAVE A SECOND. WE HAVE THE PRESIDENT OF THE COUNCIL BACK AGAIN. I'LL GO AHEAD AND TURN IT OVER TO YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, MADAM VICE-PRESIDENT. I APPRECIATE YOUR WILLINGNESS TO TAKE THAT ON. I HAD A QUICK LONG-DISTANCE PHONE CALL I HAD TO TAKE ON. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS MATTER? >>COUN. BASSAN: MADAM PRESIDENT, IF I MAY INTRODUCE IT A LITTLE BIT. >>COUN. BORREGO: GO AHEAD, COUNCILOR. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU. THE PURPOSE FOR THIS RULES AMENDMENT, AS EVIDENCE BY OUR PREVIOUS CONVERSATION, SOMETIMES I THINK THINGS EITHER GO THROUGH COMMITTEES QUICKER THAN THEY SHOULD OR THEY SHOULDN'T GO INTO COMMITTEE IN THE FIRST PLACE. MY IDEA AND HOPE WAS THAT AT LEAST IN REGARD TO CITY ORDINANCES BEING PROPOSED OR AMENDED WE WOULD BE ABLE TO SAY THEY SHOULD HAVE TWO COMMITTEE HEARING SO THAT WAY IT WOULD MAKE SURE WE'RE HAVING FULL DISCUSSIONS AND EVALUATION ON MAKING CHANGES TO STUFF THAT IS GOING TO BE IMPORTANT IN CREATING THE LAWS THAT WE HAVE IN THE CITY WITHOUT THE UNNECESSARY WASTING OF TIME. OR FORCING IT TO BE DISCUSSED PROPERLY. IF NOT, IF WE HAVE MORE URGENCY IT SHOULD BE A HOLD OVER AND THE FULL COUNCIL CAN DISCUSS IT IN THE ORIGINAL FORM. I WOULD LOVE TO GET SUPPORT AND I ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. >>COUN. BORREGO: ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCILOR DAVIS, AND COUNCILOR HARRIS. >>COUN. DAVIS: LET COUNCILOR HARRIS GO AHEAD. I'M TRYING TO CATCH UP. >>COUN. HARRIS: YES, I THINK WE SHOULDN'T MAKE ANY CHANGES TO THESE COMMITTEE RULES. BECAUSE WHAT DO WE WANT TO DO IF WE NEED IMMEDIATE ACTION? THERE'S ALWAYS OTHER QUESTIONS THAT AREN'T ANSWERED BY THIS RULE. MOST IMPORTANTLY, I DON'T THINK WE CAN MAKE ANY CHANGES TO THE COMMITTEE UNTIL WE'RE PAST COVID. ONE OF THE THINGS COUNCILOR BASSAN DIDN'T GET TO ENJOY, IF THAT'S THE RIGHT WORD, BUT EXPERIENCE COMMITTEES WHEN THEY COULD FUNCTION PROPERLY WHEN WE WERE IN THE COMMITTEE ROOM. IT WAS MORE OF AN OPEN DIALOGUE. MORE AN INTIMATE ENVIRONMENT WHERE PEOPLE WOULD COME AND THE CHAIR COULD CALL ON DIFFERENT PEOPLE, DEPENDING ON THE AGENDA, WE COULD LET PEOPLE TALK FOR FIVE MINUTES. IT WAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF COLLABORATION. THAT'S JUST NOT -- AGAIN, I DON'T SEE SEE A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A ZOOM MEETING OR A COUNCIL MEETING. I THINK PART OF THE RESTRICTION COUNCILOR BASSAN IS FEELING IS SOMEWHAT A FUNCTION OF SHE'S BEEN ON THE COUNCIL ALMOST ENTIRELY WHILE DEALING WITH COVID. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR HARRIS. COUNCILOR DAVIS. >>COUN. DAVIS: LET NO ONE SAY THE SPIRIT OF DIPARTISANSHIP IS DEAD ON THIS COUNCIL. I AGREE WITH COUNCILOR HARRIS. WE OUGHT TO GET BACK TO NORMAL AND THEN SEE THE PROCESS. WHO KNOWS? MAYBE WE'RE STARTING A NEW ERA. . >>COUN. BORREGO: COUNCILOR JONES. >>COUN. JONES: THANK YOU. I HAVE BEEN HERE AS LONG AS ANYONE AN THIS COUNCIL AM. IN THE PAST IT'S BEEN HELPFUL TO HAVE OPEN DISCUSSION AND WORK YOUR WAY THROUGH THINGS YOU DIDN'T UNDERSTAND. THINGS TEND TO FLY TOO THROUGH COMMITTEE. AND SHAME ON US FOR NOT DOING WHAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS. TOO MANY PIECES ARE JUST VOTED ON AND MOVED THROUGH. EVEN THOUGH I GET VERY TIRED IN THE COMMITTEES, I DO BELIEVE THEY HAVE A VERY GOOD PURPOSE THAT ALLOWS US TO DISCUSS MORE OPENLY AND IT IS SOMETIMES HEATED CANDOR. AND TRY TO FIX WHAT THE LEGISLATION. AS MUCH AS I WOULD LIKE TO BACK YOU ON THIS COUNCILOR BASSAN, I THINK WE NEED TO GET OUR TOES BACK IN THE WATER AND SEE IF THE USE OF THE COMMITTEE DOESN'T IMPROVE WHAT WE'RE DOING AND IF IT DOESN'T THEN WE MAKE CHANGES. AT THIS POINT -- (INAUDIBLE). I BELIEVE THE COMMITTEE STRUCTURE HAS A PURPOSE IN THE COUNCIL. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR JONES. COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: I'M SORRY, MADAM PRESIDENT. I CAN WAIT AS A CLOSE. >>COUN. BORREGO: THAT WAS THE FINAL COUNCILOR THAT HAD THEIR HAND UP. >>COUN. BASSAN: I THINK EVERYONE MAKES VALID POINTS. I'LL BE THE FIRST TO ADMIT THAT I HAVE NOT SEEN COMMITTEES IN ACTION IN THEIR FINEST FORM FROM WHAT I'VE HEARD THEY USED TO BE SPLENDID. I HAVE NEVER SEEN THAT HAPPEN. NOW, AND PERHAPS BECAUSE IT'S BECAUSE OF COVID, PERHAPS IT'S BECAUSE OF ZOOM. IT'S NOT BECAUSE I'M TIRED OF ZOOMS OR DON'T WANT TO ATTEND THEM, I'M HAPPY TO DO SO. I PREFER IT IN PERSON. BUT, I THINK I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I'M NOT SAYING WE RUSH ANYTHING. I AM PREPARED TO CHANGE MY MOTION. HOWEVER, I PLEASE URGE THIS COUNCIL TO NOT RUSH THINGS THROUGH COUNCIL OR COMMITTEE. I THINK THEY HAVE BEEN. WE DON'T DEFER ANYTHING. I DON'T THINK I'VE EVER SEEN ANYTHING DEFERRED IN COMMITTEE WHEN IT'S BEEN EXPLAINED SO WE CAN CHEW ON IT AND WORK ON THINGS. I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT. I THINK I WOULD LIKE TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT. AS THE CHAIR OF THE COMMITTEE, AS NOTED EARLIER, I'M HAPPY TO HOLD THINGS BACK. EVEN THOUGH THAT'S NOT WHAT WE WANT EITHER. I MOVE FOR A DEFERRAL FOR 90 DAYS. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR. I'LL SECOND THE DEFERRAL. I THINK IN LIGHT OF HAVING A NEW COUNCIL IN JANUARY THAT'S PROBABLY A WISE DECISION. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? IF NOT, COUNCILOR, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANTED TO SAY? THANK YOU. WE'LL MOVE TO MS. ORTEGA FOR THE VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. HARRIS: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. >> 9-0 ON THE DEFERRAL TO FEBRUARY 7, 2022. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILORS. THAT CONCLUDES OUR BUSINESS THIS EVENING. SEEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS BEFORE THIS COUNCIL, THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED.