DIFFERENT KINDS OF DAY, ALL DIFFERENT TIMES OF THE DAY AND NIGHT, AND SEEMS TO BE THERE IS NO ISSUE ON TRAFFIC FLOW. I CAME BACK DURING A LIGHTNING GAME LAST NIGHT PRIOR TO, LIKE, 6:15. THINKING IT WOULD GET ALL JAMMED UP AS I DIDN'T KNOW THERE WAS A PRE PREGAME. AGAIN, EVERYTHING FLOWS. I SAY THAT FROM WHETHER IT IS THE MORNING, 10 TO 12:00, 2 TO 4:00, 6 TO 8:00 AT NIGHT. ONE THING I WANT TO REALLY STRESS HERE IS THAT WITH THE FLOW, WITHOUT GETTING INTO SPECIFIC NUMBERS, THAT THE -- THE COMMUNITY IN GENERAL IS VERY COURTEOUS AND COMPLIMENTARY, BOTH SIDES, THE VISITORS AND OUR OWN COMMUNITY. AND THERE IS A SENSE OF AWARENESS, I THINK, ON BOTH SIDES THAT IT IS COMPL COMPLIMENTARY. WE STOP, THEY GO. VISITORS GO. IT IS VERY RESPECTFUL BACK AND FORTH. YOU KNOW, LIGHTS WHEN I LOOKED COULD BE FROM BUREAN TO THE EMBASSY SUITES AND THE MOST YOU CAN GET IS EIGHT CARS AT A DEAD STOP AT A RED LIGHT THAT IS FORCING THE TRAFFIC TO BACK UP AND NOW TRAFFIC DURING HIGH LEVELS LIKE LAST NIGHT IS MANAGED BY CONES THAT FORCE EVERYBODY TO GO RIGHT. AND THE POLICE, WHICH DO A GREAT JOB OF JUST BASICALLY THEY ARE WAVING THE CARS THROUGH. AND WE ALL GO TO OUR DIFFERENT WAYS. AND NO INCIDENTS. SO I DON'T KNOW WHY OR WHERE THIS STANDS IN AGAIN, A, BUT APPRECIATE ANY COMMENTS THAT COUNCIL MAY HAVE ON THAT. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR. NEXT SPEAKER IS CONNIE BURTON FOLLOWED BY PAULA PERRY. I KNOW WHO IS GONE -- I AM JUST GOING TO READ THE NAMES ANYWAY. CONNIE BURTON AND WE WILL GO FROM THERE. YES, MA'AM. >> YES, CONNIE BURTON. CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA. MOTHER NATURE HAS A WAY OF HUMBLING ALL OF US. AND SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE THAT YOU DIDN'T THINK HAVE ANY HUMANITY, IT SPREADS THROUGH THEIR GRIEF, SEEING THE GRIEF OF OTHERS. AND WE QUITE OFTEN HEAR THIS STATEMENT WE HAVE NEVER SEEN NOTHING LIKE THIS BEFORE. BUT I THINK WE CONTINUE TO SEE PAIN AND HARM COME TO PEOPLE, BUT IT IS THROUGH THIS EXPRESSION THAT IT IS DONE OUT OF OUR CONTROL THAT WHEN WE WOULD BE BROUGHT INTO HUMANITY. WHAT I CAN TELL YOU THAT LOSS OF LIFE, THE LOSS OF PROPERTY, SEEING YOUR COMMUNITY BEING IDENTIFIED AS A BLIGHTED COMMUNITY, WATCH IT GENTRIFIED. SEEING YOUNG PEOPLE LOSING HOPE HAS BEEN ONE OF THOSE KIND OF SOBERING EFFECTS THAT IT HAVE ON US THAT BELIEVE THAT THIS COUNCIL AND THIS CITY CAN DO BETTER. SO WE ARE HOPEFUL THAT WHEN THIS -- WHEN THIS COMMITTEE RECONCILIATION GROUP COMES, IRREGARDLESS OF THE -- IF IT IS 5, 6, 8, 3, 4, 4, 1, 2, 3, WE PLAN ON EXPRESSING THE PAIN THAT HAS BEEN FELT IN OUR COMMUNITY. AND NOT SO TO BE WRITTEN IN A REPORT. BECAUSE I THINK ALL OF YOU KNOW, IF YOU VISIT SULPHUR SPRINGS. IF YOU VISIT ROBLES PARK COMMUNITY, A BLIGHTED COMMUNITY, YOU HAVE SEEN IT. SO THERE ARE THINGS THAT YOU CAN DO NOW. ITEM 11-27, UNDER THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMUNITY AFFAIRS ACT. INSTEAD OF THIS MORNING CLEARING OUT LOTS. SOMEONE HAS TO TAKE COURAGE AND SAY LET'S LOOK AT WAYS THAT WE CAN BUILD A BETTER HOME THAT DON'T CRUMBLE. I CAN TELL LIVING OVER THERE WITH MY MOTHER AT ROBLES PARK DURING THE STORM. NOT AGREE FELL. NOT NO WATER CAME TO HER DOORWAY. IT IS STILL STANDING EVEN THOUGH THE DEVELOPER IS GOING TO TEAR THAT DOWN. AND I TELL YOU THE ECONOMIC IMPACT OF TEARING DOWN THAT COMMUNITY IS GOING TO BE FELT AT WINN-DIXIE, McDONALD'S, AND ALL OF THOSE LITTLE STORES THAT NEED RESOURCES COMING OUT OF OUR COMMUNITY THAT NO LONGER EXISTS. SO WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE COURAGE OF THE COUNCIL TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE ADMINISTRATION THAT THIS IS THE TIME TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT. TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT. TO DO SOMETHING BOLD. TO ENTER INTO RELATIONSHIPS WITH THE UNIVERSITY. VOCATIONAL SCHOOL STUDENTS. THAT CAN PRODUCE A HOUSING PRODUCT THAT DON'T FORCE PEOPLE OUT OF THEIR COMMUNITY BUT SAY THAT TAMPA IS INDEED A CITY THAT EVERYBODY CAN LIVE. THANK YOU. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THE NEXT SPEAKS ARE NOT HERE, PAULA PERRY AND VALLEY BULLOCH IS THE NEXT SPEAKER FOLLOWED BY MENTESNOT. >> I AM VALLEY. AND I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 24. EAST TAMPA -- I DON'T KNOW TOO MUCH ABOUT SULPHUR SPRINGS TOO MUCH, BUT IN EAST TAMPA, WE HAVE, LIKE, FOUR GROCERY STORES THAT ARE ALREADY THERE. WE HAVE WANT. I GO TO PUBLIX ON CHANNELSIDE AND SPROUTS DOWNTOWN, ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE YMCA, AND YOU HAVE THE WINN-DIXIE THERE ALSO. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME KIND OF MANUFACTURING PLANT BEING PUT UP IN EAST TAMPA SO THAT AT LEAST IT CAN -- IT CAN KICK-START ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, LIKE A SMALL SOLAR PLANT, OR ANYTHING THAT IS MANUFACTURING THAT CAN GO THERE. WE WOULD MUCH RATHER HAVE JOBS THAT ARE FEASIBLE. THAT WE CAN WALK TO. THAT IS IN OUR COMMUNITY INSTEAD OF ANOTHER GROCERY STORE. BECAUSE THE REALITY OF IT IS, IF WE DON'T HAVE NO JOB, WE DON'T HAVE NO MONEY. WE CAN'T GO SHOPPING. SO I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD LOOK INTO. WHAT CAN BE OUR ECONOMIC ENGINE FOR EAST TAMPA? THAT IS WHAT IS MISSING. ALL THE OTHER LOCATIONS, THEY HAVE ECONOMIC ENGINES. WE HAD A BEAUTIFUL RIVERWALK. WE HAVE -- OH, I LOVE MARRIOTT WATERSIDE DOWN THERE ON CHANNELSIDE. YBOR CITY HAS GOT THE STRIPS AND THOSE BARS AND STUFF. WE DON'T -- AND WEST TAMPA HAS RIVERWALK. EAST TAMPA, DOESN'T HAVE NOTHING TO IDENTIFY AS THIS IS EAST TAMPA. THIS IS EAST TAMPA ENGINE. THIS IS WHERE WE GO TO WORK AT. THIS IS WHAT PUTS MONEY INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. SO INSTEAD OF LOOKING AT ANOTHER GROCERY STORE, MAYBE SOMEBODY CAN GET WITH AN INDUSTRY. WOULD YOU LIKE TO INVEST IN THIS AREA? EVEN IF IT IS A PUBLIC WAREHOUSE. THAT WOULD BE GOOD. ANY STORE THAT CAN PUT A WAREHOUSE THERE. BECAUSE WHEN WINN-DIXIE WAS BEHIND FUNLAND THEATRE ON 22nd AND HILLSBOROUGH, A LOT OF US WORKED DOWN THERE. SINGLETON ON 50th STREET, THAT IS WHERE A LOT OF US WORKED AT. WE NEED AN ECONOMIC ENGINE FOR EAST TAMPA. THAT IS NUMBER ONE BEHIND MENTAL HEALTH. THANK YOU. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANDRE HILL WAS HERE EARLIER. HE IS NOT HERE. NEXT IS LIONEL HAYES FOLLOWED BY STEVE MICHELINI. >> GOOD AFTERNOON COUNCIL WOMAN AND COUNCILMEN, I AM PRESIDENT OF 501-C-3 ORGANIZATION. FIRST AND FOREMOST, MR. MIRANDA, THANK YOU FOR LETTING THE PUBLIC BE PART OF YOUR CELEBRATION AND THANK YOU FOR BEING AN INDIVIDUAL THAT HAS BEEN ABLE TO REALLY HELP OUR COMMUNITY. I AM AN INDIVIDUAL THAT WAS IMPACTED BY HELENE. OUR HOME -- WE LOST EVERYTHING. OUR NONPROFIT SUFFERED. SO THIS WAS THE FIRST EXPERIENCE OF JUST SOMETHING GOOD. AND I -- I DON'T KNOW YOU. BUT JUST BEING IN THAT ENVIRONMENT TOUCHED MY SOUL. SO THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING THAT. BACK TO THE MATTER OF WHY I'M HERE. I CAME ABOUT 45 DAYS AGO WITH REGARDS TO CHI RON AND FRIENDS. I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK ABOUT IT. AS OF RIGHT NOW IN THIS MOMENT, WE SUFFERED AGREE LOSS OF DONATIONS. RIGHT NOW WE HAVE $100,000 WORTH OF BRAND-NEW INVENTORY WE WANT TO GIVE AWAY TO THE COMMUNITY. WE WANT TO PARTNER -- I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN BRING A TRUCKLOAD OF STUFF TO TPD, TOYS, CLOTHES, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT FAMILY GETS STUFF NOW. IT IS HARD ON INDIVIDUALS RIGHT NOW. JUST THE MENTAL ASPECT OF IT. WE WERE IN OUR HOME WATCHING EVERYTHING BEING DECIMATED. AND IT JUST HURTS KNOWING WHAT WE HAVE AND HOW IT IS JUST SITTING IN A STORAGE UNIT AND NOT BEING ABLE TO BE FACILITATED THROUGHOUT OUR COMMUNITY. THE REASON I'M HERE SO HOPEFULLY SOMEWHERE -- SOMEONE OUT THERETO IN THE PUBLIC HEAR THIS, 813 MACHINE 323-1040. YOU CAN E-MAIL US AT CAIROANDFRIENDS CAI RRO. AND YOU CAN GO TO OUR WEB SITE. WE ARE NOT ASKING FOR ANYONE TO MAKE A DONATION. WE ARE GIVING $100,000 WORTH OF BRAND-NEW SCHOOL SUPPLIES, TOYS AND CLOTHING FOR CHILDREN AND ALSO ADULTS. IF Y'ALL HAVE ANY TYPE OF WAYS TO SPREAD THE MESSAGE AS WELL TO YOUR AFFILIATIONS, PLEASE TO DO SO. I AM SPEAKING FROM THE HEART. AND I HOPE THAT THIS MESSAGE DOES MATERIALIZE AT THE END OF THE DAY. SO I HOPE THAT YOU, YOUR FAMILIES AND YOUR FRIENDS AS WELL WERE ABLE TO MITIGATE THE STORM. AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR. NEXT IS STEVE MICHELINI. PASTOR FRANK WILLIAMS WAS HERE EARLIER. LAST SPEAKER IS POYNOR. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL. STEVE MICHELINI. AGAIN, CONGRATULATIONS TO CHARLIE AND HIS DEDICATION. I WAS A MERE CHILD WHEN HE FIRST GOT ON COUNCIL. ANYWAY, I THINK THE STORM PROVED A LOT OF THINGS, BUT IT NOW HAS BURDENED THE CITY STAFF. AND HOW TO DEAL WITH THIS IN TERMS OF RESTORATION, RENOVATION, AND ISSUING PERMITS AND HOW DO YOU GET IT DONE. SO THE COUNCIL MIGHT WANT TO ASK FOR A REPORT ON HOW YOU ARE GOING TO PROCESS THAT. YOU HAVE THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF STRUCTURES THAT HAVE BEEN IMPACTED. AND SOME OF THEM DON'T MEET YOUR CURRENT ROADS REGARDING SETBACKS AND HEIGHTS AND HOW ARE YOU GOING TO DEAL WITH THAT. THE 75% RULE REGARDING RENOVATION AND RESTORATION, YOU MAY WANT TO LOOK AT THAT IN TERMS OF THE DEVASTATION. IT GOES HAND IN HAND WITH THE INSURANCE COMPANIES AND HOW THEY DEAL WITH IT. HARDENING THE CITY SERVICES, WATER SERVICES, CENTURY SEWER SERVICES, LIFT STATIONS INCLUDING BACK-UP GENERATORS TO CONTINUE WORKING DURING A CATASTROPHE. MAY NEED BUDGET AMENDMENTS TO ACCOMPLISH THAT, BUT, AGAIN, WE JUST ADOPTED THE BUDGET FOR THE NEW YEAR, AND I AM SURE THEY WILL BE IN HERE ASKING FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDS TO HARDEN THOSE FACILITIES. I ONLY POINT IT OUT, AS YOU MENTIONED EARLIER TODAY, LOOKING AT ZONINGS -- ALL NEW ZONINGS HAVE TO COMPLY WITH FEMA. THE ONES ON DAVIS ISLAND THAT WERE NEW SURVIVED BECAUSE THEY MET THE FEMA REQUIREMENT. THE ONES THAT DIDN'T WERE THE OLDER STRUCTURES. THEY DIDN'T SURVIVE. CATASTROPHIC COMPLETION -- I MEAN DEVASTATING. ANYWAY, I JUST WANT TO POINT THAT OUT. I AM SURE YOU ARE AWARE OF IT, BUT MAY BE WORTHWHILE TO HAVE THE COUNCIL CONSIDER DOING SOME KIND OF A RESOLUTION OR EMERGENCY MOTION OR ORDINANCE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO DEAL WITH ALL OF THE PERMITTING AND RECONSTRUCTION THAT IS GOING TO BE REQUIRED. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. LAST SPEAKER, POYNOR. THAT IS WHAT THE CARD SAYS. YES, SIR, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, STEPHANIE POYNOR. I WOULD LIKE TO THANK CAR CAR BASS AT MY HOUSE AND ASKING WHO HE CAN HELP. I APPRECIATE THAT. THIS STORM SHOWS THAT STORMWATER REALLY NEEDS TO BE STARTED TO BE CONSIDERED AS PART OF THE LAND USE PHASE FOR THE CHAA. CURRENTLY IT IS NOT CONSIDERED UNTIL AFTER IT IS ALREADY APPROVED FROM YOU GUYS. IT NEEDS TO BE PART OF THE STAFF REPORT COMING OUT DURING LAND DEVELOPMENT. MR. MASSEY LET ME KNOW AFTER LUNCH OR DURING LUNCH, THAT THEY ARE ALREADY MAKING CHANGES TO THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS WHERE THE NEIGHBORHOODS WILL BE NOTIFIED FROM NOW ON. I AM REALLY HAPPY ABOUT THAT. AND HOPEFULLY WE WON'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH THAT NONSENSE WE HAD BEFORE LUNCH AGAIN. HELENE ROCKED SOUTH TAMPA'S WORLD. THREE TO FOUR INCHES -- THREE TO FOUR FEET OF WATER. I SPOKE TO LARRY WASHINGTON A HALF A DOZEN TIMES SINCE THE HURRICANE HIT. MOST OF THESE PEOPLE -- MOST OF WHAT WAS LOST SOUTH OF GANDY IS AFFORDABLE HOUSING. IT IS HOUSING THAT HAS BEEN FAMILIES FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS. 800, 900, 1,000-SQUARE-FOOT HOUSES. WHERE ARE THESE FOLKS GOING TO GO? AND I WANT TO THANK YOU GUYS FOR -- FOR THE PURCHASE OF THE SANDBAGS, BECAUSE I HAD A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO SAID IT WAS NICE TO PICK UP THOSE SANDBAGS AND WE DIDN'T HAVE TO FILL THEM OURSELVES. THAT IS SOMETHING WE DID AFTER IAN. THE NEW HOMELESS LAW. MY GOSH. I ALREADY GOTTEN TEXTS THAT PEOPLE ARE GETTING CITATIONS DOWNTOWN. THAT'S KIND OF CRAZY CONSIDERING WE JUST INCREASED OUR HOMELESS POPULATION BY THOUSANDS. SO WE GOT TO KEEP THAT IN MIND. ENFORCEMENT. I MEAN THEY ARE WRITING WARNINGS AND CITATIONS AND TAKING PEOPLE TO JAIL. I DON'T KNOW, THAT IS WHAT I AM HEARING. EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT ISN'T PERFECT, BUT LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING, IF THERE IS ONE THING THAT OUR MAYOR DOES REALLY, REALLY WELL, I THINK IS THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT SYSTEM. NOW WHAT WE ARE DEALING WITH NOW IS SOMETHING THAT NOBODY ANTICIPATED. THE PIG THING THAT I SEE COMING FROM THE MAJORITY OF FOLKS IN OUR COMMUNITY IS, WE GOT FOLKS WH PUT ALL OF THE STUFF OUT OF THEIR HOUSE, GOTTEN IT TO THE CURVE. LARRY AND HIS CREW ARE DOING GREAT JOB PICKING THIS UP AND ADJUSTORS ARE SAYING PUT THE STUFF BACK IN YOUR HOUSE. OH, MY GOSH, ARE YOU FRICKEN KIDDING ME, LIVE WITH THAT FILTH AND DISGUSTS FOR THE APPRAISERS TO SHOW UP. THERE SHOULD BE A CHECKLIST WHAT YOU CAN DO. THE CITY, STATE OR COUNTRY THING. IT IS NEEDED BECAUSE PEOPLE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE STEP IS. WE ARE GOING TO EXPERIENCE THIS AGAIN. NOT THE FIRST, AND NOT THE LAST. CONGRATULATIONS, CHARLIE, YOU HAVE BEEN UP THERE ELEMENT AS LONG AS MY MOUTH. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CONSENT AGENDA, ITEM 5-10. >>LUIS VIERA: I MOVE ITEM 5-10. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA AND SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. OPPOSED? COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON, 11-17 WIT THE EXCLUSION OF 14. >>GWEN HENDERSON: I MOVE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMUNITY AFFAIRS COMMITTEE ITEMS 11-27 WITH THE EXCEPTION OF 14. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON. SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. OPPOSED. COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. 28-35. >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU. I MOVE ITEMS 38-35. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. OPPOSED. COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, 36-40. ITEM 41 WILL APPEAR UNDER STAFF REPORT. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: [ INAUDIBLE ] >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA. SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. OPPOSED? COUNCILMAN CARLSON. >>BILL CARLSON: 42-53. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? OKAY. COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I MOVE ITEMS 54-56. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN. SECONDED FROM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE TO SET THESE PUBLIC HEARINGS, BUT WE HAVE RECEIVED QUITE A FEW E-MAILS REGARDING THE DATES. COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU. I HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH -- WITH FOLKS ON THIS. AND SO I HAVE -- I HAVE AN IDEA, A SUGGESTION. RIGHT NOW DECEMBER 5, WHICH IS A REGULAR SESSION IS LOW. WE HAVE TWO COMMENDATIONS AND THREE STAFF REPORTS. IF WE KEEP TWO COMMENDATIONS AND THREE STAFF REPORTS, WE CAN FINISH BY LUNCH AND THEN WE CAN COME BACK IN THE EVENING TO DO THIS ONE ITEM. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM. >>CATE WELLS: CATE WELLS, LEGAL DEPARTMENT. I WANTED TO LET CITY COUNCIL KNOW THAT WHEN WE STARTED TALKING OF POTENTIAL OTHER DATES FOR THE HEARING THAT WE ARE REQUESTING BE SET WITH REGARD TO A FLUEDRA SETTLEMENT, JA JAKE CREMER LET ME KNOW THAT TWO KEY MEMBERS OF HIS TEAM WILL NOT BE AVAILABLE ON DECEMBER 5. I ASKED FOR EVENINGS THAT WILL BE AVAILABLE AND HE WASN'T ABLE TO CIRCLE BACK. AT THIS POINT, IF COUNCIL IS LOOKING AT CONSIDERING A DIFFERENT DATE OTHER THAN THE EVENING OF NOVEMBER 14, WE CAN DO IT AT COUNCIL'S DISCRETION OR IF YOU WANT TO CONTINUE IT TO NEXT WEEK'S EVENING MEETING, WE CAN THEN PROVIDE DATES THAT WILL WORK FOR THE PARTIES TO THIS MATTER. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I DON'T KNOW HOW THE OTHER COUNCILMEMBERS FEEL. I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA. I SAW ONE E-MAIL COME THROUGH BRINGING UP JANUARY. SO YOU KNOW, SO IT DOESN'T CONFLICT WITH ANYTHING ELSE. WE DON'T KNOW UNTIL WE TALK WITH ALL THE PARTIES. COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. >>LYNN HURTAK: I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WERE REGULAR READERS OF CREATIVE LOAFING BUT WE WON AN AWARD FOR MOST WATCHED -- MOST ENTERTAINING LATE NIGHT TELEVISION. >>GWEN HENDERSON: REALLY? >>LYNN HURTAK: WE WOULD PREFER NOT TO WIN THAT ONE AGAIN. >>CATE WELLS: I AGREE. >>LYNN HURTAK: THE COMMUNITY IN WHOLE AGREES. THEY ARE SAYING -- IT IS -- IT WAS DONE TONGUE AND CHEEK. AND I THINK WE ALL -- AGREE. I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE THIS ITEM UNTIL -- >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NEXT THURSDAY EVENING. >>LYNN HURTAK: THURSDAY EVENING AT 5 -- DO WE HAVE TO MAKE IT TIME CERTAIN? . >>MARTIN SHELBY: FIRST ON THE AGENDA. >>LYNN HURTAK: FIRST ON THE AGENDA FOR OCTOBER 10, EVENING SESSION. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN? ANY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT. HOW ABOUT ITEM NUMBER 58. ANY CONFLICTS THERE. OKAY, COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN IS MOVING ITEM 58 TO SET THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR DECEMBER 5, 2024. 10:30 A.M. 315 E. KENNEDY, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 3062. H 247-94. THAT IS JUST TO SET THE PUBLIC HEARING. COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. >>LYNN HURTAK: I BELIEVE -- IS THIS -- IS THIS LEASE AGREEMENT IN THE -- IN ON BASE RIGHT NOW? >>MORRIS MASSEY: THE LEASE AGREEMENT IS ATTACHED AND ON BASE. ON YOUR AGENDA RIGHT NOW, COPIES ARE ARRIVE TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE WHEN YOU SET THE PUBLIC HEARING SO THEY WILL BE IN BOTH PLACES. >>LYNN HURTAK: I WANT TO MAKE SURE WHEN WE DO THE LEASE AGREEMENT THAT THE PUBLIC CAN LOOK AT THIS. THE PUBLIC HAS UNTIL NOVEMBER 5 TO LOOK AT THE LEASE AGREEMENT FOR A PUBLIC PARK AND PUBLIC ENTITY. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: A MOTION. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OPEN ALL PUBLIC HEARINGS. ITEM 59 IS NONQUASI JUDICIAL. AT THIS POINT JUST TO GET IT OUT OF THE WAY, IF ANYONE IS HERE TO SPEAK ON ANY OF THE PUBLIC HEARINGS WHICH ARE QUASI CAN YOUY JUDICIAL WHICH IS 06 AND BEYOND, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND WE WILL SWEAR YOU IN. [SWEARING IN] >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IS AL ALEX SCHALER ONLINE -- IT IS NONQUASI JUDICIAL, I AM SORRY. THAT'S RIGHT. ITEM NUMBER 59. >> CAN YOU HEAR ME? >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES. [ INAUDIBLE ] >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WAIT, IT IS VERY, VERY CHOPPY. THE SIGNAL IS WEAK. >> OKAY. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE AUDIO. [ INAUDIBLE ] >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CAN YOU CONNECT AND DISCONNECT. IT IS VERY ROBOTIC. WE WILL HOLD ITEM 59, AND WE WILL GO TO ITEM NUMBER 60. IF YOU WERE HERE TO PRESENT ON 60 -- LET'S SEE. >>LUIS VIERA: MR. CHAIR, AS A REMINDER, I NEED TO LEAVE HERE AT ABOUT:30. APOLOGIZE -- SOMETHING OF MY SON IN A PLAY. MY APOLOGIES FOR THAT. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE MAY BE DONE, WE MAY NOT. IF COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK HAS POSSIBILITY HERE. ALL RIGHT, YES. >>. >>LaCHONE DOCK: GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL. LaCHONE DOCK, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION. COUNCIL, ITEM 60 IS A SECOND READING ITEM REZ 24-18 FOR THE PROPERTY AT 2109 WEST FRUIT STREET. THIS IS A REQUEST TO REZONE THE PROPERTY FROM RS-60 RESIDENTIAL TO RM-18, RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY. THIS IS A EUCLIDIAN REQUEST SO NO SITE PLAN ASSOCIATED WITH THIS REQUEST AND IT IS BEFORE YOU FOR SECOND-READING CONSIDERATION. I AM AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS NO? >> FRANCISCO TERCOSIO. AND NOTHING HAS CHANGED SINCE THE FIRST READING. WE ARE HERE TO PRESENT TO A REZONING FROM RS-50 TO RM-18. WE UNDERSTAND IF THE PETITION IS APPROVED, THE ZONING MUST ADHERE TO THE TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR A MAXIMUM DENSITY FLOOR AREA RATIO LIMITS AND PERMISSIBLE USES IN THE RM-18 AND MUST COMPLY WITH THE WEST TAMPA OVERLATICE STRICT STANDARDS THAT WE WILL FULLY COMPLY WITH AT PERMITTING. ALL CITY OF TAMPA DEVELOPMENT STAFF INCLUDING THE TAMPA DOCTOR THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY CITY-COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION FOUND IT TO BE CONSISTENT. AND WE ARE RESPECTFULLY ASKING THE COUNCIL TO APPROVE OUR PETITION. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR GENTLEMAN? GL ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK. >> MOTION TO CLOSE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU REVIEWED ALL THE CASES. >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES, I DID. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION AND A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN. SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. OPPOSED. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ITEM NUMBER 6, IS REZ 4-18, ORDINANCE FOR SECOND READING ADOPTION. REZONINGS 3909 WEST PROOF STREET IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED AS ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RS-50 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY TO RM-18, RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SECOND. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION AND A FAVORITE. >>LUIS VIERA: YES. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES. >>BILL CARLSON: YES. >>LYNN HURTAK: YES. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES. >>LYNN HURTAK: YES. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES. >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CONGRATULATIONS. WE WILL GO TO ITEM 59. SEE IF SHE RESTARTED HER COMPUTER. IS SHE BACK ON? SHE IS ON? ITEM 59. IF YOU WERE BACK ON, PLEASE TURN YOUR CAMERA BACK ON. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME. >> EMILY PHELAN, PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF A MAP AMENDMENT WITH MULTIPLE PARCELS. COLUMBUS DRIVE. THE REQUEST IS TO CHANGE THE FUTURE LAND USE TO RESIDENTIAL-35 AND COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL 35 TO URBAN MIXED USE-60 AND COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35. FROM THE SEPTEMBER 12, 2024 HEARING. AND IF YOU HVE ANY QUESTIONS, I AM AVAILABLE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS? NO? ALL RIGHT. APPLICANT FOR ITEM NUMBER 60. THERE WAS ONE ON LINE, ALEX SCHALER. SHE WAS REGISTERED SO -- NO? ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WISHES TO SPEAK ON ITEM 59. I SEE NO ONE. MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN. SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. OPPOSED. COUNCILMAN VIERA, 59. >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR. MOVE ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT, FUTURE LAND USE MAP FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED 2301, 2037, 3315 FLORIDA AVENUE EAST EMILE I CAN'T AND 05, 207 AND 08 COLUMBUS DRIVE FROM CC-35 AND RESIDENTIAL-35, R-35 TO URBAN MIXED HOURS 60, UMU 06 AND COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35, CMU-35, PROVIDED FOR REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES AND PROVIDED FOR SEVERABILITY AND PROVIDING A SECOND DATE. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ROLL CALL VOTE. >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES. >>LUIS VIERA: YES. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES. >>BILL CARLSON: YES. >>LYNN HURTAK: YES. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES. >>CLERK: MOTION PASSED UNANIMOUSLY. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ITEM NUMBER 61. >>LaCHONE DOCK: THANK YOU, ITEM 61, LaCHONE DOCK. LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION. 2511 NORTH HOWARD AVENUE. A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM RO, RESIDENTIAL OFFICE TO PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT. THIS IS FOR ALL COMMERCIAL NEIGHBORHOOD USES SITE PLAN NOT ANY CASES BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING. THOSE CHANGES WERE MADE AND PLAN IS MADE AVAILABLE TO THE CLERK. I AM AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MISS DOCK? NO? MR. MICHELINI. >> STEVE MICHELINI REPRESENTING THE PETITIONER, 2511 NORTH HOWARD. YOU MAY RECALL AN EXISTING BUILDING THAT WE ARE HAVING TO CHANGE TO ALLOW THE USE FOR THE OFFICE THAT IS ALREADY EXISTING THERE. WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL, AND I WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE GENTLEMAN? ANYONE IN THE PUB WISH TO SPEAK ON 61. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION TO CLOSE. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON. >>LYNN HURTAK: I WANT TO SAY I WAS ABSENT AT VOTE AND I REVIEWED AND I AM PREPARED TO VOTE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AND LET ME CHECK THE OTHERS. YES, MA'AM, COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON. >>GWEN HENDERSON: FILE NUMBER 2024-20, ORDINANCE PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 2511 NORTH HOWARD AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING CHASTE LITTLE FACE RO, RESIDENTIAL OFFICE TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT. ALL NEIGHBORHOOD USES PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON AND SECONDED BY MIRANDA. >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES. >>LYNN HURTAK: YES. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES. >>BILL CARLSON: YES. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES. >>CLERK: MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY ITEM NUMBER 26. YOU WILL BE A STAINING. DO YOU WANT TO STEP OUT OF THE ROOM. YES, SIR. YES, MA'AM. >>LaCHONE DOCK: THANK YOU SO MUCH, COUNCIL. LaCHONE DOCK, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION. ITEM 62 IS FILE REZ-24-59 FOR THE PROPERTY 405 NORTH ARMENIA AND 23 22 WEST GRAY STREET. THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE FROM RM-60 RESIDENTIAL FAMILY TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED DEVELOPMENT. SITE PLAN TOURING FIRST AND SECOND READING AFTERNOON AND CHANGES HAVE BEEN MADE. THE PLAN HAS BEEN CERTIFIED TO THE CLERK. I AM AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR. >> STEVE MICHELINI REPRESENTING THE PETITIONER, 405 NORTH ARMENIA. YOU MAY REQUIRE THIS IS A REDEVELOPMENT PROJECT IN ADJACENT TO HJC. ANSWER HANSMENT OF THE BIKE AND TRAIL. AND ENHANCE WITH TREES IN SIZE IN CALIPER TO MAKE IT A PARKWAY ALONG THE SOUTHERN CORNER OF JCC. WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL AND WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE GENTLEMAN? ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, ITEM NUMBER 62. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION TO CLOSE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ALL RIGHT, COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: FILE NUMBER REZ-24-58, ORDINANCE FOR -- 24-58, EXCUSE ME. NO, I WAS RIGHT. SEE -- SEE HOW THAT YOU GOES. SO WE WILL START OVER. I AM MOVING FILE NUM NUMBER REZ-24-58, ORDINANCE FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION. ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL RESIN TEE OF HAD 005 NORTH ARMENIA AND 2322 WEST GRAY STREET IN CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, FOR RM-16 RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY PROVIDE AN EFFECTIVE DATE. I DID HEAR WE HAVE TO HAVE SOMETHING ATTACHED -- OR IS THAT IS IT? VERY GOOD. >>GWEN HENDERSON: SECOND. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ROLL CALL VOTE. >>BILL CARLSON: YES. >>LYNN HURTAK: YES. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES. >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES. >>LUIS VIERA: YES. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES. >>CLERK: MOTION PASSES WITH UNANIMOUSLY WITH MIRANDA ABSTAINING. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, SIR ITEM NUMBER 63. >>LaCHONE DOCK: THANK YOU, COUNCIL. ITEM NUMBER 63 REZ-24-06. 2409 WEST FID STREET FROM RM-16 TO RM-18. SITE PLAN IS NOT NEEDED FOR THIS REQUEST. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MISS DOCK. MR. MICHELINI, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME. >> MR. STEVE MICHELINI REPRESENTING THE PETITIONER 2409 WEST FIG I AM ABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK ON ITEM 63. A MOTION AND A SECOND. >>LUIS VIERA: SECOND. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. >>LYNN HURTAK: REZ-24-60 ORDINANCE FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION. AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 2409 WEST FIG STREET IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONINGS DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RM-16, RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY TO RM-18, RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN. ROLL CALL VOTE. >>LYNN HURTAK: YES. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES. >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES. >>LUIS VIERA: YES. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES. >>BILL CARLSON: YES. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES. >>CLERK: MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ITEM NUMBER 64. >>LaCHONE DOCK: THANK YOU, COUNCIL. LaCHONE DOCK, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION. ITEM 64 IS REZ-24-64 FOR THE PROPERTY AT 709 WEST PARK AVENUE. THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE THE PROPERTY FROM RS-60 TO RS-50, RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY. THIS IS AN EUCLIDIAN REZONING REQUEST AND NO SITE PLAN ASSOCIATED WITH THIS REQUEST. AND I AM AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MISS DOCK? YES, SIR, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME. >> STEVE MICHELINI, REPRESENTING THE PETITIONER AT 709 WEST PARK. COUNCIL MAY REMEMBER THIS IS A REORIENTATION THAT THE DOORS FACE THE PARK INSTEAD OF A SIDE STREET. THIS ENABLES THAT TO HAPPEN. RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR APPROVAL. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 64. SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA. ITEM NUMBER 65. >>LaCHONE DOCK: THANK YOU, LaCHONE DOCK, LAND DEVELOPMENT ITEM 65 -- >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WAIT, WAIT, MISS DOCK. HOLD ON. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON. >>BILL CARLSON: I MOVE -- I MOVE FILE NUMBER REZ-24-64, ORDINANCE FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, ORDINANCE IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 709 WEST PARK AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1, IN RS-60 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY AND RS-50. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SECOND. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES. >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES. >>LUIS VIERA: >>BILL CARLSON: YEAR. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE YES. >>LaCHONE DOCK: LaCHONE DOCK. ITEM NUMBER 65 IS REZ-24-65, 6 CHIPPEWA AVENUE. FROM RS 06 TO RS-50. EUCLIDIAN ZONING AND NO SITE ASSOCIATED WITH THIS REQUEST. IT IS BEFORE YOU FOR SECOND READING AND I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS. >> STEVE MICHELINI REPRESENTING THE PETITIONER. COUNCIL, YOU MAY RECALL DISCUSSION OF DRAINAGE AND STORMWATER PROTECTION. AND ALL NEW PROJECTS WILL HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THAT. AND IT IS UNFORTUNATE THAT THE OLDER HOMES IN DAVIS ISLAND OF DEVASTATED; HOWEVER, NEW PROJECTS WITH NEW DRAINAGE REQUIREMENTS AND NEW AND CONSID FOR THAT WILL HELP TO CREATE A RESILIENCY. PETITIONER HAS ADDITIONAL INFORMATION IF THE COUNCIL WISHES TO HEAR IT, BUT WE ARE RESPECTFULLY REQUESTING YOUR APPROVAL. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON 65? YES, SIR, COME ON UP. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME. >> YES, GOOD AFTERNOON, BILL SHE WILLHART, 573 LUZAN IN DAVIS ISLAND. I LIVED THERE FOR 12 YEARS. I LOVE THE ISLANDS. PI LOVE THE I UNDERSTAND THE OPPOSITION THAT COUNCIL HEARD DURING THE FIRST READING AND PEOPLE NOT WANTING CHANGE. MY HOME IS A 1950s RANCH HOME. IT COMPLETELY FLOODED DUE TO THE STORM SURGE FROM HELENE. WHILE WE WANT TO PRESERVE THE PAST, WE HAVE TO RECOGNIZE THAT WE LIVE IN AN AREA THAT IS SUSCEPTIBLE TO THIS TYPE OF CHANGE. MY UNDERSTANDING FROM WHAT IS PROPOSED TO BE BUILT HERE WILL COMPLY WITH FEMA REQUIREMENTS. IT WILL BE A SPACE WHERE PEOPLE WON'T HAVE TO WORRY OF THEIR HOMES FLOODING AND THEY WON'T HAVE TO DO WHAT I DID, WADE IN CHEST-DEEP WATER CARRYING MY 70-POUND DOG TO MY NEIGHBOR'S HOME TO RIDE OUT THIS STORM. ASKING THAT THIS COURT -- THIS BODY PASS THE ORDINANCE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANYONE ELSE THAT WILL SPEAK. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION TO CLOSE. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO CLOSE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. OPPOSED. COUNCILMAN MIRANDA. 65. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ITEM 6 65, REZ-24-65, ORDINANCE PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING. 206 CHIPPEWA AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, AND RESIDENTIAL 06 TO RS-60 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION AND A SECOND. >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES. >>LUIS VIERA: NO. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES. >>BILL CARLSON: YES. >>LYNN HURTAK: NO. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES. >>CLERK: MOTION PASSES WITH VIERA AND HURTAK VOTING NO. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COUNCIL. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NUMBER 66, MISS DOCK. >>LaCHONE DOCK: THANK YOU, COUNCIL. LaCHONE DOCK, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION. ITEM 66, IS REZ-24-66. THE PROPERTY AT 4001 WEST CARMEN STREET TO REZONE FROM RS-50 RESIDENTIAL FAMILY TO PD FOR RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED USE. THE SITE PLAN MODIFICATIONS WERE REQUIRED TO BE MADE BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING. CHANGES HAVE BEEN MADE. THE PLAN CERTIFIED AND PROVIDED TO THE CLERK. THIS ITEM IS BEFORE ARE NOW SECOND READING. I AM AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTION FOR MISS DOCK? NO? DO WE HAVE AN APPLICANT FOR NUMBER 66. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION TO CLOSE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC MANISCALCO MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN. SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN VIERA. COUNCIL VIERA, 66. >>LUIS VIERA: MOVE AN ORDINANCE SECOND READING AND ADOPTION. IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 4001 WEST CARMEN STREET IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, AND STICKILY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1, RS-50, RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY, DETACHED. PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. >>LUIS VIERA: YES. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES. >>BILL CARLSON: YES. >>LYNN HURTAK: YES. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES. >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES. >>CLERK: MOTION PASSES UNANI UNANIMOUSLY. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ITEM 67 IS A REVIEW HEARING. >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: GOOD AFTERNOON, CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE WITH THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT. ITEM NUMBER 69 IS A REVIEW HEARING FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 5710 EAST ADAMO DRIVE. THE PETITIONER IS MR. WILLIAM MOLLOY, WHO FILED A REQUEST TO REDUCE THE WETLAND SETBACKS WHICH REQUIRES BY CODE A MINIMUM OF 15 FEET. THEIR REQUEST TO REDUCE THAT TO ZERO FEET. THAT IS IN REGARDS TO -- YOU COULD FIND THAT PROVISION IN CODE SECTION 27-286, SUBSECTIONS B. STAFF DENIED THAT REQUEST ON JUNE 7, 2024. I PROVIDED CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS A COPY OF CODE SECTION 27-286, WHICH IS THE WETLAND PROTECTIONS AND BUFFER. I PROVIDED CAPE OF 27-06 WHICH IS THE CRITERIA FOR THE ALTERNATIVE DESIGN EXCEPTION AND CODE SECTION 27-61 WHICH IS THE REVIEW HEARING CRITERIA. IN YOUR PACKET ARE ALSO -- IS A SAMPLE MOTION AND RULES OF PROCEDURE FOR CITY COUNCIL TO USE IN ORDER TO CONDUCT THIS REVIEW HEARING AS STATED IN CODE SECTION 27-61, SUBJECTION J-3. A DE NOVO REVIEW HEARING AND CITY COUNCIL CAN RECEIVE NEW EVIDENCE. THE STAFF THAT IS PRESENT IN ORDER FOR MORE INFORMATION AND THE REASON FOR IT. AND THE DECISION. AFTER CITY COUNCIL HEARS ALL EVIDENCE REGARDING THIS MATTER, CITY COUNCIL CAN AFFIRM THE DECISION OF THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR AND DENY THE ASK TO REDUCE THE WETLAND QUARTERBACKS OR CITY COUNCIL CAN OVERTURN THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR DECISION. AND, THEREFORE, APPROVE THE REQUEST OF THE APPLICANT TO REDUCE THE WETLAND SETBACKS. IF THAT, I WILL TURN IT OVER TO MR. EYSTER FOR THE PRESENTATION FROM STAFF. >> YES, MA'AM, GO AHEAD. STATE YOUR N. >> STEVEN EYSTER: CITY OF TAMPA. THIS APPLICATION IS DE 124-153-C AT 5710 ADAMO DRIVE. THIS WAS CONTINUED FROM THE SEPTEMBER 5 HEARING, 2024. JUST A QUICK BREAK DOWN OF THE PROPERTY. WILL JAM J. MOLLOY IS THE PETITIONER. ADDRESS 5710. THE ZONING IS INDUSTRY HEAVY AND THE REQUEST IS TO ALLOW THE ENCROACHMENT FROM 15 DOWN TO 0 THROUGH A DESIGN EXCEPTION. THIS. HERE IS THE CODE SECTION THAT CAMARIA REFERENCED IN REMEMBER PRESENTATION. THE BUFFER IS REDUCED TO 15 FEET WITH AN AVERAGE OF 25. MORE OF A RECONFIGURATION THAN AN ELIMINATION. SQUARE FOOTAGES AND EVERYTHING HAS TO EQUAL OUT AT THE END OF THE APPLICATION PROCESS. THIS IS THE OVERVIEW OF THE MAP. YOU CAN SEE ADAMO DRIVE IN THE FRONT. AND THEN THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION. THIS IS THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION. THE AREA OUTLINED IN RED IS THE CURRENT UPLAND AREA THE SITE. THE HASHED AREA TO THE SOUTH IS THE APPROVED EPC IMPACT FUND. THIS IS A COLOR-CODED VERSION THAT WAS SUBMITTED WITH THE APPLICATION SHOWING THE PRIMARY IMPACTS, THE SECONDARY IMPACTS, AND THE -- AND THE WALL, THE RETAINING WALL THAT IS GOING TO BE INSTALLED. ALL THOSE WERE APPROVED THROUGH SW S.W.F.W.M.D. AND HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY EPC. HERE IS A CLOSE-UP OF THAT DIAGRAM SO YOU GUYS CAN SEE. SO THE REASON FOR DEBT NILE IS THE CODE DOES NOT PROVIDE EXEMPTIONS FOR RETAINING WALLS, SIMILAR -- DUE TO THEIR TYPICAL STRUCTURE OF JUST HOLDING SOIL BACK FROM AN AREA COMPARED TO A SEAWALL THAT RECEIVES WAVE APPLICATION AND THINGS LIKE THAT. A SEAWALL PROVIDES AN EXEMPTION AND LIMITS THE SETBACK. THIS IS THE REVIEW CRITERIA THAT CAMARIA PROVIDED TO YOU AND THE REASON FOR THE DENIAL. APPLICATION WAS DISAPPROVED DUE TO THE REDUCTION IN THE 25-FOOT SETBACK. THE APPLICANT PROVIDED OF THE WETLAND IMPACTS OF APPROVAL OF THE RETAINING WALL BUT DUE TO THE CODE, THE 25-FOOT BUFFEV STILL IN PLACE FROM THAT WALL POINT FORWARD. AND THEN 27-286, DOES NOT WAVE THE REQUIREMENTS. THAT MEANS REDUCTIONS, SQUARE FOOTAGES HAVE TO EQUAL OUT. IF THEY CAN'T PROVIDE EQUAL EXPERIENCE TORY SQUARE FOOTAGE, THE APPLICANT IS THEN DENIED. THIS REQUEST IS REQUESTING TO GO TO NO COMPENSATION FOR WETLAND IMPACTS. I AM AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. >>LYNN HURTAK: YOU GO BACK A COUPLE OF PAGES TO A MAP. THAT IS FINE. WHAT YOU ARE SAYING IS, IF THIS WAS A SEAWALL, WE WOULDN'T BE HERE. >> CORRECT. I THINK THE BIGGER QUESTION IS SEAWALLS AND RETAINING WALLS DON'T REQUIRE ANY MITT. >> STEVEN EYSTER: WHEN A SEAWALL IS INSTALLED IT PROVIDES HARD SCAPE BETWEEN THE WET ELABORATEDLAND AND THE UPLAND SIDE. AT THAT POINT THE WETLAND BUFFER IS REMOVED AND THE SEAWALL IS THE NEW STOPPING POINT. IT SAY AS DOUBLE SILT FENCE. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? >> THE DOUBLE SILT FENCING THAT APPLIES TO WHEN THEY ARE DOING THE CONSTRUCTION PART SO THE SITE DOESN'T WASH OUT INTO THE WETLANDS. >>LYNN HURTAK: WHAT I THOUGHT AND BUILDING A RETAINING WALL THAT WILL BE RAISED. >> BETWEEN THE NEW SITE AND THE LOCATION. >>LYNN HURTAK: THE ONLY REASON WE HAVE NOT APPROVED IT BECAUSE IT IS TECHNICALLY NOT IN OUR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. >> THAT'S CORRECT. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ANYONE HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS? WE HAVE THE APPLICANT. MR. MOLLOY IS HERE. STATE YOUR NAME. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCILMEMBERS, 325 SOUTH BOULEVARD, TAMPA, FLORIDA. I REALIZE THIS IS AN APPEAL ON THE AGENDA, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THE COMMENT, I KNOW THERE IS SOMETHING A LITTLE PEJORATIVE OF AN APPEAL THAT WE HAVE DENIED. WE ARE IN A SITUATION THAT IS AN I THINK YEAR EXERCISE. A NICE PIECE OF PROPERTY. FORTUNATELY OR UNFORTUNATELY, WE NEED YOUR APPROVAL BECAUSE IT DOES NOT ALLOW FOR THE REDUCTION WE ARE REQUESTING FOR. THIS NOT TO DO IT TREMENDOUS HERE. BUT MAKING SURE THIS RETAINING WALL IS AN EFFECTIVE VERTICAL BARRIER THAN HORIZONTAL. THAT IS HOW TECHNICALLY I CAN SPEAK TO IT BUT I HAVE BOTH MY ENGINEERS TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PROJECT FOR YOU. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE ARE NOT LOSING ANY WETLAND SPACE BY APPROVING THIS. >> DEFINITELY, ONE ON ONE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THE WETLAND WHETHER WE APPROVE IT OR NOT WILL STAY THE SAME. >> YES, SIR. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THE ONLY REASON WE ARE HERE THAT THE EXISTING CODE DOES NOT PERMIT STAFF TO PROVIDE THIS EXCEPTION. >> CORRECT. YOUR STAFF DOES NOT HAVE THAT AVAILABLE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THIS IS THE TECHNICAL OF THE CODE NOT ACCEPTING IT. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYONE ELSE? COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. >>LYNN HURTAK: ONE MORE QUESTION. THIS IS A COMMERCIAL SPACE? >> YES. >> IT LOOKS THAT WAY. JUST WANTED TO SAY. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY ELSE. PUBLIC COMMENT. ANYONE WHO WANTS TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM. I SEE NO ONE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CITY STAFF, YOU CONQUER, JUST A TECHNICAL ISSUE OUT OF YOUR HANDS AND IT HAS NEGLIGIBLE IMPACT? >> YES, COUNCILMAN, AS STATED IN THE BRINGS, EP T ARE AND S.W.F.W.M.D. HAVE APPROVED THESE IMPACTS AND A LARGE GRADE TO FOUR FEET, IT IS NOT FUNCTIONS AT A WETLAND BUFFER BECAUSE A SOLID WALL SEPARATING THE TWO ENTITIES. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT, YES, MA'AM. >>LYNN HURTAK: WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE TO ME THAT WHEN WE REDO THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE WE WILL ADD THAT TO THE SEAWALL DEFINITION. SOUNDS LIKE SOMETHING WE MAY BE ABLE TO DO. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. MOLLOY, DO YOU NEED REBUTTAL. >> I DON'T THINK I NEED ANY. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CLOSE TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN. SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA. OPINION ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. OPPOSED. ANYBODY WANT TO MAKE A MOTION? >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WILL GUESS I WILL DO THAT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I MOVE TO OVERTURN THE DENIAL BECAUSE THE PETITIONER PROVIDED SUBSTANTIAL AND COMPETENT EVIDENCE TO MEET THE REQUIREMENT OF THE CITY OF TAMPA CODE 27-06-E-5 AND REDUCE THE WETLAND SETBACKS TO ZERO FEET FOR THE FOLLOWING REASON. AS HEARD IN TESTIMONY FROM BOTH THE APPLICANT AND STAFF, THAT THIS HAS PRACTICAL NEGLIGIBLE IMPACT ON THE PROPERTY. THE WETLAND IS BEING PRESERVED AND TECHNICAL IN OUR CODE. >> IT IS APPROVED BY THE EPC AND S.W.F.W.M.D. AND A BUSINESS AND NOT A RESIDENCE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION AND A SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. ROLL CALL VOTE. >>LYNN HURTAK: YES. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES. >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES. >>LUIS VIERA: YES. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES. >>BILL CARLSON: YES. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT CONCLUDES OUR PUBLIC HEARINGS NOW. ITEM 70, WE TOOK CARE OF IT. 71, 7, 73, AND 74, IN SPEAKING WITH OUR BUDGET ANALYST YESTERDAY. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS GOING TO BE A CONTINUANCE ON THESE ITEMS. COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. >>LYNN HURTAK: I DON'T KNOW THAT NECESSARILY A CONTINUANCE, BUT I HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THESE THE FIRST ONE IS CHANGING THE REQUIREMENT FROM $100,000 TO $200,000. WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS WHAT THAT REALLY MEANS. HOW MANY ITEMS IS THAT. IS THAT 100 ITEMS A YEAR. IS THAT 20 ITEMS A YEAR? WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT IN TERMS OF THAT. I GET THE REPORTS FOR OVER RATHER FOR UNDER $100,000 AND THEY ARE INCREDIBLY DIFFICULT TO READ. MR. HEBERLIEN, I WILL BORROW YOU FOR A SECOND. CAN YOU GO PUT THIS UP ON THE ELMO FOR ME THIS IS HOW WE RECEIVE IT IN AN E-MAIL, IN BOX IN A CONNECTION. YOU CAN'T SEE THE DOLLAR SIGNS, THE NUMBERS. SO AT THE VERY LOWE'S, THIS NEEDS TO BE IMPROVED IN TERMS OF DELIVERY FOR US. IF THIS IS GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT IS GOING TO GO UP. NOW YOU CAN MOVE IT BACK TO NORMA WAY OF READING. THIS IS DIFFICULT TO READ IT HAS DEPARTMENTS BUT NOT ORGANIZED BY DEPARTMENTS. NOT ALL THE FLEET AND SOLID WASTE ITEMS ARE TOGETHER. I THINK BEFORE WE CAN APPROVE THIS, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHAT WE CAN TO DO MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS CLEAR AND RIGHT NOW WE ONLY GET THIS QUARRELLERLY AND I WOULD LIKE TO GET THIS EVERY OTHER MONTH. THE BIGGEST ISSUE IS THE NUMBER OF ITEMS GOING TO BE TAKEN AWAY. I AM NOT OPPOSED TO IT BUT CURIOUS TO SEE WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IS. I KNOW TO COUNCILMAN CARLSON WORKED ON 37 QUITE A BIT. BUT MY INTEREST IN 71 AND 27, THE DIFFICULTY OF SEEING ITEMS AND KNOWING HOW MANY ITEMS WERE ACTUALLY GOING TO BE IMPACTED COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN WAS FIRST AND THEN COUNCILMAN CARLSON. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THESE ARE TWO VERY INTERESTING ONCE BECAUSE I WAS SUPPORTIVE OF THE IDEA I AM BURNT ON THE THING THAT CAME AND BIT US IN THE BUTT THE ONE TIME. SO I AM A LITTLE -- BURN ME ONCE SCENARIO. SO I AM REALLY -- I DON'T KNOW IF I AM COMFORTABLE OR IF I HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION TO MAKE THIS BIG LEAP OF FAITH. EVEN IF WE ARE CURSORY PASSING THROUGH THESE THINGS. HAVING THE EXTRA SET OF EYES DOESN'T HURT. AND DON'T KNOW THIS IS SLOWING DOWN THE PROCESS OR HEARD ANYTHING SUBSTANTIAL THAT THIS IS IMPEDING THE BUSINESS OF THE CITY THAT'S WORTHY TAKING THIS ACTION TODAY. INITIALLY I WAS LIKE, GET IT, ROUTINELY PASSING THESE THINGS BUT 999,999 KIND OF BURNT ME AND I FEEL THAT HAVING THE EXTRA SET OF EYES ON THIS STUFF IS KIND OF A GOOD IDEA AT THIS POINT. >> COUNCILMAN CARLSON. >>BILL CARLSON: I WANT TO SPEAK TO 73 AND 7 4. YOU WANT TO HANDLE 71 AND 27. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF 71 AND 27. >>LYNN HURTAK: I WOULD LIKE TO WORK WITH STAFF TO COME UP WITH AN IDEA OF HOW MANY ITEMS WOULD BE IMPACTED AND WHAT WE COULDTO DO MAKE IT CLEAR TO US AND A MORE UPDATED AND FREQUENT REPORT THAT WE CAN SEE BEFORE I CAN MAKE MY MIND AND MOVE IT TO JANUARY -- YOU WORK THIS AS A WORKSHOP. JANUARY 9, ENOUGH TIME FOR THAT? >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CHIEF BENNETT. >>JOHN BENNETT: GOOD AFTERNOON, JOHN BENNETT, CHIEF OF STAFF AND GOOD AFTERNOON TO THE PUBLIC. DOES COUNCIL WANT ANY FEEDBACK BECAUSE I HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF FEEDBACK THAT CAN START THIS AND, OF COURSE, WE ARE HAPPY TO WORK WITH COUNCIL. CONTINUE THIS TO THE 9th AND HAVE THAT TO THE 9th. >> I WANT ONE CLARIFIER. ONCE I SAW THESE QUARTERLY REPORTS I ASKED PURCHASING ANYTHING THAT SUCH 95,000 HAVE A SEPARATE MEMO IN THE BUCKET. IN THIS VERSION 200,000 IS THE OLD ONE FROM 25 YEARS AGO. THE IDEA WAS TO REPORT EVERYTHING ABOVE 100,000. AND IF WE HIT 109,000. A WEEK FROM EVERYONE I AM CERTAINLY NOT OPPOSED TO AND NOT HAVE THE CONVERSATION OF THE DUE DILIGENCE THAT THIS, I THINK, NEEDS. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON. >>BILL CARLSON: REAL FAST. THANKS TO CHIEF OF STAFF AND PURCHASING FOR WORKING MARRED ON THESE. CHIEF OF STAFF, TWO QUESTIONS YOU MAY NOT KNOW THE ANSWER TO, BUT ONE THAT IT COUNTS LIKE THAT IS REP HFL, HOW MANY FIRES BETWEEN 100 AND 200 AND THE OTHER QUESTION WHEN THE 100,000 WAS INITIALLY APPROVED, WHAT IS THE PRESENCE OF THE 100,000. IF IT WAS 30 YEARS AGO MAY BE. >>BILL CARLSON: A DECENT JUSTIFICATION. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: BUYING CHEMICALS FOR THE WATER PLANT OR DISCRETIONARY KIND OF SPENDING. >>BILL CARLSON: YOU SAID YOU KNEW THE NUMBER. >>JOHN BENNETT: QUANITATIVELY 25% THEIR WORKLOAD RIGHT NOW. I DID LOOK AT THAT FROM A PERSONNEL POINT OF VIEW BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY WE ARE RUNNING LEAN ON THE SUPPORT SIZE. WORTH OF EMPLOYEES TO DO THAT LEVEL AND KEEPING THE TRANSPARENCY, ACCOUNTABILITY IN THE SYSTEM. THAT IS WHY THAT NUMBER WAS SELECTED. KIND OF A MODERNIZATION. BUT HOW TO UNPACK THAT IN A BIMONTHLY REPORT AND QUAA A QUARTERLY REPORT ALIGNING THE HIS UNITS. ALL OF THAT IS CAPABLE, OF COURSE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, YOUR MIC WAS ON. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MY MIC WAS NOT ON. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM. >>LYNN HURTAK: SOMETHING WE CAN DEFINITELY TALK ABOUT BUT I WANT A LITTLE MORE INFORMATION THAT WE CAN PROBABLY SPEND MORE TIME ON OFF-LINE. AND I THINK IT MIGHT BE PEN FISH SHALL TO KNOW -- BENEFICIAL TO KNOW -- I WILL TALK TO YOU OFF LINE. I MOVE THAT WE MOVE ITEM 71 AND 27. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: TO JANUARY 9? >>LYNN HURTAK: JANUARY 9 DURING STAFF REPORTS. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. OPPOSED? COUNCILMAN CARLSON. YOU WANTED TO DISCUSS 73 AND 74. >>BILL CARLSON: 7 AND 74 -- 73 IS A THREE-BED MINIMUM AND 74 IS THAT IF WE ARE DOING PIGGYBACKING WHICH WE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE THAT I CAN EXPLAIN. IF WE ARE DOING PIGGYBACKING THREE OR AT LEAST MORE THAN ONE PIGGYBACKING CONTRACT. ALL THAT DOES PROVIDES AN ADDITIONAL LAYER TO MAKE SURE WE ARE GETTING THE BEST PRICE. WE SPENT MONDAYS ON THIS AND PURCHASE DID AN ANALYSIS OF OTHER GOVERNMENTS AND I DID MY OWN ANALYSIS OF OTHER GOVERNMENTS AND THE CHIEF OF STAFF WORKED WITH US. I WOULD DO IT LESS THAN $5 MILLION, BUT THE CITY HAS NEVER DONE THIS BEFORE. AND BASED ON THE WORKLOAD AND EVERYTHING, IT'S -- I THINK IT IS BETTER TO START AT 5 MILLION AND GO AHEAD AND GET THIS APPROVED SINCE WE HAVE BEEN WORKING IT MORE THAN A YEAR AND LET IT RUN FOR A YEAR OR SOMETHING AND SEE HOW IT WORKS. IF IT IS A HUGE BURDEN, WE WILL HAVE STAFF TELL US. IF IT HAS BETTER PRICES, THEN WE WILL BE ABLE TO TALK ABOUT IT AS WELL. I THINK CHIEF OF STAFF AND PURCHASING, I THANK THEM FOR PUTTING SO MUCH TIME IN THESE TWO AND BENCHMARKING THEM. I WOULD MOVE TO APPROVE BOTH OF THOSE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: READ ITEM NUMBER 37. >>BILL CARLSON: FILE NUMBER E 2024-8-CH 2, ORDINANCE FOR FIRST READING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA CHAPTER 2, ARTICLE V, DIVISION 3, PURCHASES AND BY ENACTING 286, THREE-BID REQUIREMENT FOR, ROUX REQUIREMENTS FOR OTHER PURCHASES EXCEEDING $5 MILLION. PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY AND AN EFFECTIVE DATE. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND. >> IS THIS THE BEST PRACTICE FOR MOST CITIES. ARE YOU -- >>JOHN BENNETT: THE THRESHOLD. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: $5 MILLION, THE BIDS. YEAH. >>JOHN BENNETT: THE WAY IT WAS -- AGAIN, COUNCIL, THE CITY ATT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND PURCHASING ALL WORKED TOGETHER TO GET INTO A GOOD OPERATIONAL REALM. TRUTHFULLY I WAS HOPING TO DO THAT ON THE FIRST TWO BECAUSE I THOUGHT WE COULD SMOOTH IT OUT. BUT IF COUNCIL'S PLEASURE TO GO THROUGH THE 9th, WE WILL WORK ON THAT OFF-LINE. PBECAUSE WE CAN S BACK OR BETTER REPORTING AS WELL. THEIR WORKLOAD. I WANT TO SAY THIS TO -- IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS, 46% INCREASE IN INVITATION TO BIDS. AND THAT IS DUE TO COUNCIL AND STAFF WORKING TOGETHER WITH HIGHER ACCOUNTABILITY. 46% IN FIVE YEARS AND THE SAME SIZE STAFF. 13% FOR PROPOSALS. 16% -- SORRY, 61% IN RESOLUTIONS AND DOING THAT ON THE BACKS OF JUST TWO MORE PURCHASING STAFF. SO IT IS GETTING HEAVY. WE OUGHT TO FIGURE OUT WHERE THE EFFICIENCY MEETS THE OPPORTUNITY, ACCOUNTABILITY AND TRANSPARENCY. TO ANSWER YOUR ORIGINAL QUESTION, WE FELT LIKE WE WORKED THROUGH ALL OF THIS FOR THE SWEET SPOT OF ALL FOUR ORDINANCES. I AM HAPPY TO SUPPORT THESE TWO AND ADJUSTMENTS AS NEEDED. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ITEM 74. >>CLERK: SECOND READING AND ADOPTION NOVEMBER 22, 2024, IN CITY COUNCIL, THIRD FLOOR, TAMPA, MR., 3306 2 CARLSONs. >>BILL CARLSON: I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FILE NUMBER 2024-8-CH 2, ORDINANCE PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING A~ MENDING CHAPTER 2 ALREADY ARTICLE, 5, DIVISION 3, PURCHASES AND CONTRACTS BY ENACTING 2-287 PURCHASES THROUGH USE OF OTHER COOPERATIVE CONTRACTS PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT THEREWITH PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. OPPOSED. >>CLERK: MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY NOVEMBER 2, 2024 IN CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS 315 E. KENNEDY, THIRD FLOOR, 33602. >>BILL CARLSON: I FORGOT TO THANK THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT AND EVERYBODY ELSE WHO HELPED WITH THESE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CHIEF, YOU REQUESTED THAT ITEM 41 BE BROUGHT UP UNDER STAFF REPORTS? >>JOHN BENNETT: I DID. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU WANTON GO WITH 41. >> GO AHEAD, 41. >> STAFF ASKED FOR 41 TO BE PULLED INTO JUST PRIOR TO STAFF REPORTS. AND WE KNOW AUDITS COME IN RECEIVE AND FILE AND APPRECIATE COUNCIL FOR MOVING THAT INTO THE SPACE. AND, OF COURSE, CHRISTINE GLOVER'S AUDIT DEPARTMENT WORKED CLOSELY WITH MY OFFICE TO CHANNEL THE AUDITS TO THE MAYOR AND, OF COURSE, TO CITY COUNCIL. I WILL STAY THAT DEANNA OUR DIRECTOR OF PURCHASE HAD ACTUALLY MADE THE RECOMMENDATION FOR THIS AUDIT AND THE AUDIT PLAN TO CHRISTINE GLOVER'S OFFICE. AND IT WAS ACCOMPLISHED IN FY '24. THE REASON IT IS IMPORTANT, BECAUSE THE JOCK HAS BEEN AN INSTRUMENT OF THE COUNCIL OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS. IT HAS BEEN AN AMAZING TOOL WHAT I CALL CAPITAL MAINTENANCE OPPOSED TO CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT. A LOT OF DEPARTMENTS THAT RELY ON THE JOB ORDER CONTRACTING WITH FIX. AND THE ONE THING THAT I DID HERE AND THERE IS A LOT OF SMALL LOCAL BUSINESSES THAT ARE PRIME IN THESE PROGRAMS AND ARE ENERGIZING A LOT OF THE MINORITY BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT WHICH IS FANTASTIC. I WILL SAY THAT THE LEADERSHIP SINCE THIS PROGRAM HAS STARTED HAS TURNED OVER. DEANNA HAS NOW BECOME THE DIRECTOR. BERTHA MITCHELL IS HERE THAT IS MANAGING THE EQUAL BUSINESS OPPORTUNITY AND MINORITY BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT OFFICE. AND SO PART OF DISSECTING THIS AUDIT WHICH WAS REQUESTED FOR FY 24 REVEALED SEVERAL THINGS THAT WE KIND OF NEW AND WANTED THEM FORMALIZE. BIGGEST ONE SEGREGATION OF DUTIES, THE JOB SYSTEM WAS UNIQUE SYSTEM INSIDE PURCHASING AND NOT GOOD TO HAVE THE FIREWALL ON BOTH SIDES. WE WANTED TO MOVE THAT OVER. LOGISTICS AND ASSET MANAGEMENT. ADRI COLINA IS TAKING OVER THE 1Y68DO.C. FOR USER DEPARTMENTS WHETHER THE CONVENTION CENTER, PARKS AND RECREATION WITH ALL THE FACILITIES WE HAVE. J.O.C. IS MOST PERTINENT BEING USED AS THE YOURER DEPARTMENT INSIDE LAM. PURCHASING CAN FOCUS ON THE CONTRACT. LAM CAN FOCUS ON THE DELIVERABLES. THE BIGGEST THING. THE NEXT BIGGEST THING THE ACCURACY OF THE AWARDS OF THE OPPORTUNITY IS ACTUALLY GETTING IN THE HANDS OF THE SUBCONTRACTOR OF THE MINORITY AND SMALL LOCAL BUSINESS. SO THAT WAS THE SECOND THING. POSTING THOSE NUMBER MAKING SURE THE PUBLIC SEES THE TRANSPARENCY IS COMING THROUGH WITH THIS AUDIT. I CAN TELL YOU WITH TWO-THIRDS OF THE FIRMS IN THE INITIAL BEING PRIME MINORITY BUSINESS AND SMALL LOCAL BUSINESS AND 50% MORE IN THE NEXT ROUND THAT YOU APPROVE IS REALLY MAKING A DIFFERENCE FOR THE CITY MOVING FORWARD SO WHAT I AM SAYING IS I APPRECIATE COUNCIL FOR GIVING THE JOB ORDER CONTRACTING PROGRAM. WE ARE HONORED TO TAKE THIS AUDIT AND DO THE CONTINUOUS IMPROVEMENT BEHIND IT. I JUST HAD A TWO-PAGE DIRECTIVE THAT IS GOING OUT THAT GOES OUT TO ALL THE STAKEHOLDERS WITH I IS LOGISTIC ASSET MANAGEMENT PURCHASING IN THE EBO OFFICE AND THIS IS HOW WE ARE GOING TO OPERATE FORWARD. ONE TIME WE PULLED THIS AUDIT, TALK TO COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC AND SAYING AN AMAZING TOOL AND DOING A GREAT JOB FOR CAPITAL MAINTENANCE BUT WE HAD PROGRESSIVE HOUSEKEEPING TO DO AFTER THE AUDIT CAME OUT. WE WANT TO EMBED THESE J.O.C. REPORTS FROM OTHER REPORTS FROM PURCHASING TO INCREASE TRANS TRANSPARENCY. EVEN THOUGH YOU APPROVED IT AND USING IT YOU ARE NOT SEEING THE DATA UNTIL IT COMES OUT LIKE THIS. ADRI IS ON LINE. >>LYNN HURTAK: WHAT DOES THAT PROGRAM LOOK LIKE FOR YOU? >>JOHN BENNETT: FOR THE J.O.C. PROGRAM? EVERY TIME IT IS UTILIZED AND A SCOPE OF SERVICE BEEN THE PROING. PICK A NUMBER. THE CONVENTION CENTER NEEDED SOMETHING TO HIT THE 100,000. WE PUT THAT MUCH LIKE WE ARE REPORTING NOW QUARTERLY INTO THAT SAME REPORT. SO YOU COULD SEE HOW THE JOCK IS BEING USED AS IT RUNS. A SECOND CATEGORY. >> JUST DOUBLE CHECKING TO SEE. I THINK IF WE WENT TO THE EVERY -- WITH THE EVERY OTHER MONTH REPORT TO JUST GET THAT SORT OF INFORMATION, I THINK THAT WILL KEEP US RIGHT ON TRACK. AND AGAIN DURING OUR CONVERSATIONS, I WOULD LOVE TO ROLL THAT INTO IT AS WELL. WHEN WE ARE TALKING OF THE REPORTING. THAT IS A GREAT IDEA. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MIRANDA. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I THINK I VOTED FOR THE J.O.C. PROGRAM ONE IN 100 YEARS. I DON'T KNOW IF WE ARE LOOKING AT WHAT IS GOING ON. I AM NOT SAYING WE ARE NOT. I DON'T KNOW. WHEN J.O.C. FIRST STARTED. THE REAL SMALL JOBS. A SIDEWALK. SOMETHING FELL OUT OF A CAR. TEN PIECES OF SO GOING SOMEWHERE. NOW THE SUBCONTRACTOR FOR THE CITY, FROM WHAT I AM HEARING. DO WE REALLY KNOW WHAT THEY ARE PAYING THE SUBS? DO WE KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT? THE OTHER THING IS THE RENT ON THE PROBLEM. I CAN'T GET THAT IN MY HEAD. THAT'S WHERE I COME FROM BUT WHY ST. THEY ARE GETTING FREE RENT OR WERE GETTING FREE RENT. I DON'T KNOW IN THE PAST. BUT IN THE PAST, I THINK THAT -- I THINK THIS ADMINISTRATION POSSIBLY -- I HAVE HAD SO MANIED A ENERGIESES IN MY HEAD TODAY AND I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THEY DID. DID THE AUDIT AND HAD WEIGHTS OF SCALE TO THE MINORITY PEOPLE WHO ARE WORKING FOR THEM DIRECTLY. BUT THAT'S WHAT I DON'T KNOW. >>JOHN BENNETT: NO, I UNDERSTAND. THOSE ARE ALL GREAT QUESTIONS. UNLIKE THE MAN CON PARTS CONTRACT, THERE IS NO RESIDENTIAL SIDE ON THE CITY. SO NO RENT IN THE ADMINISTRATION OF THIS PROGRAM. THERE IS A PARENT CONSULTANT THAT WORKS BETWEEN THE PRIME, OF COURSE, AND, AGAIN, CREDIT TO BERTHA MITCHELL AND DEANNA FOR MAKING SURE THAT THOSE SUBS ARE GETTING PAID THROUGH THE FORMULA. AND NOW THEY ACTUALLY HAVE A TECHNOLOGY PLATFORM THAT IS GOING TO TRACK ALL OF THAT AND WILL BE PART OF THE REPORT AND PART OF THE PUBLIC FACING NUMBERS. >> AGAIN, I AM NOT TRYING TO PUT OVERBURDEN SOME ON YOUR DIVISION OF PURCHASING AND SO FORTH, BUT I THINK YOU ANSWERED IT AND THEY ARE TAKING CARE OF THAT NOW. >>JOHN BENNETT: YES, SIR. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IF NOTHING ELSE? ASK FOR A MOTION. COUNCILMAN MIRANDA'S COMMITTEE. MOVE ITEM 41. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I MOVE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SECOND. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. OPPOSED. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR. NEXT UP WE WILL BRING UP M MR. ROGERO. AS PART OF ADMINISTRATION UPDATE GOOD AFTERNOON. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DID YOU JUST FLY IN EARLIER TODAY? >>DENNIS ROGERO: I DID NOT. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YOU LOOK LIKE YOU ARE TIRED? >>DENNIS ROGERO: FROM FLAPPING MY WINGS. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR AND GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL. CONGRATULATIONS, COUNCIL MIRANDA. CONGRATULATIONS, DENNIS ROGERO, CHIEF FINANCIAL. THANK YOU FOR LITTLE LOWING ME TIME UNDER THE -- PARDON ME -- ADMINISTRATIVE UPDATE. AS WE GO THROUGH THE AFTERMATH OF THE STORM, I HAVE A NICE PRIVILEGE TO BRING YOU VERY, VERY GOOD INFORMATION WHEN IT COMES TO THE CITY'S FINANCES. WE HAVE RECENTLY HAD A NUMBER OF POSITIVE CREDIT RATING ACTIONS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO BRIEFLY WALK YOU AND THE PUBLIC THROUGH. NO OFFICIAL PRESENTATION. THIS IS PRETTY RECENT WITH THE STORM AND EVERYTHING, AND I DID WANT TO MAKE SURE THE MEDIA OR WHOMEVER WATCHING OUT THERE DID NOT GET AHEAD OF CITY COUNCIL. SO IF I CAN HAVE THE ELMO UP, PLEASE. UNTIL VERY RECENTLY AS COUNCIL KNOWS, THAT WAS OUR OVERALL CREDIT PICTURE WHERE THE LARGEST CREDIT AGENCIES. MOODY, FITCH AND STANDARD & POOR'S. YOU HAVE SEEN THIS. THE PUBLIC HAS SEEN THIS. IT IS PRETTY IMPRESSIVE IT REMAINS PRETTY IMPRESSIVE EVEN THOUGH IT IS ABOUT TO CHANGE. TWO CREDIT READING UPGRADES. YOU SEE IN GREEN. AND ADDITIONAL HIGHER CREDIT RATING ON THE STORMWATER BONDS NOT TOO FAR AGO. SECOND HIGHEST YOU CAN GET, AA-PLUS. ON THE VERY TOP THIS, WE TALKED OF THE ICR, THE ISSUER CREDIT RATING, THE CITY'S VERSION OF THE FICO. VERY, VERY GOOD. TWO SECOND HIGHEST AND ON THE RIGHT THE HIGHEST WE GET WITH AAA. BUT AS WE DISCUSSED IN THE PAST, THE RATING AGENCIES SIMPLY SAID IT AND FORGET IT. OUR CREDIT RATINGS WERE PLACED FOR REVIEW BY TWO OF THE LARGEST, THE MOODY'S AND FITCH ORGANIZATIONS. GIVEN SOME OF THE CHANGES IN METHODOLOGY THAT THEY ARE INCORPS WRITING INTO THEIR RATINGS. AND WE WERE CANDIDATES FOR UPGRADE, AND I AM PLEASED TO SAY THAT WE ARE NOW MORE THAN CANDIDATES FOR UPGRADE. AS A REMINDER, OF COURSE, THEY COME IN. THEY TAKE A VERY BROAD AND DEEP VIEW OF THE CITY'S FINANCES BUT NOT JUST OUR FINANCES. OUR NECK AM I CAN CONDITIONS. OUR PLANNED FUTURE GROWTH. OUR PLANNED FINANCING. THINGS LIKE THAT. OUR CIP FINANCIAL REPORTS. VERY, VERY THOROUGH. CAME AND THEY SURVEILLED AND IT HAS BEEN VERY POSITIVE. I WILL START WITH MOODY'S. YOU SEE AFTER THE MOODY'S SURVEILLANCE, THEY GAVE US TWO UPGRADES. CAN YOU SEE IT THAT OKAY WITH THE CLOSED CAPTIONING? YOU GET TWO UPGRADES ON THE UTILITIES TAX AND SALES TAX REVENUE BONDS TO THE SECOND HIGHEST LEVEL THAT YOU CAN RECEIVE. THAT IS AA-1. MOREOVER, THEY DID NOT JUST BUMP US UP ONE, THEY BUMPED US UP TWO. ABSOLUTELY OUTSTANDING. I DON'T KNOW IF I WILL TAKE CREDIT FOR FOUR -- BUT AT LEAST TWO, VERY, VERY GOOD. SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THESE BONDS FUNDS THAT COUNCIL IS AWARE OF FIRE STATION, STORMWATER PROJECTS, JULIAN B. LANE, CASS STREET AND BOREIN STREET BRIDGES. SO VERY, VERY GOOD NEWS FOR TWO OF OUR RATINGS. BUT IT DOESN'T END THERE. VERY, VERY NICE TO SHARE THIS POSITIVE NEWS WITH YOU. FITCH CAME IN AND THE UPGRADES IN GREEN. STARTING AT THE BOTTOM. THEY ALSO UPGRADED OUR UTILITY TAX REVENUE BONDS AND THEY WANT TO STEP FURTHER THAN MOODY'S AN TOOK IT OVER TO AAA, THE BEST YOU CAN GET. THIS NON-AD VALOREM REVENUE BOND, AGAIN, THE BEST YOU CAN GET. AAA. AS COUNCIL KNOWS, OUR NON-AD VALOREM BONDS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. FUND OR ARE ANTICIPATED TO FUND MANY, MANY THINGS. REC CENTERS, OLD CITY HALL RENOVATIONS, PUBLIC TRAINING FACILITIES, THE MOBILITY PORTION OF OUR PIPES PROGRAM. SO MANY, MANY THINGS RELIABILITY AND ANTICIPATED TO BE RELIGHT ON OUR NON-AD VALOREM BONDS AN OUTSTANDING RATING. CHERRY ON TOP, AT THE TOP, AGAIN, OUR FICO SCORE. THE BEST A LOCALITY CAN OBTAIN. AAA RATINGS. WE NOW HAVE TWO OF THE HIGHEST RATINGS. THE VERY HIGHEST RATINGS THAT YOU CAN GET AND ONE NOTCH BELOW THE HIGHEST RATING FOR THE CITY'S FIC FICO SCORE. THIS IS WHAT YOUR RATINGS, SEVEN CREDIT UPGRADES IN FIVE YEARS. MY CONGRATULATIONS, COUNCIL. MY COMPLIMENTS AND MY THANKS FOR YOUR, THE MAYOR'S, OUR COMMITMENT TO THE CONSERVATIVE FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT THAT WE KEPT PACE OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS. SO THANK YOU. GENUINELY. I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO THANK A FEW OTHERS -- HE WON'T LIKE IT BUT I WILL SAY IT ANYWAY, THE CHIEF OF STAFF FOR HIS GUIDANCE. OUR ADMINISTRATORS, DIRECTORS, THE DEPARTMENTS. THE DEPARTMENTS ARE NOT RUNNING TIP TOP. THESE INTERNATIONAL, UNBIASED CREDIT AGENCY, THEY ARE GOING TO CATCH THAT. OUR FINANCIAL ADVISORS HELPING US STEER THE COURSE. BOND COUNSEL, DISCLOSURE COUNSEL, THERE IS ANY NUMBER OF PEOPLE TO THANK. BUT TWO PEOPLE I SPECIFICALLY WANT TO THANK, MR. PERRY AND MR. -- CAN YOU COME UP HERE PLEASE. LAST ON THE LIST AND FIRST ON MY HEART, THE REVENUE AND FINANCE DEPARTMENT. I SAID THIS BEFORE, I WILL SAY THIS AGAIN, I SIMPLY HAVE THE PRIVILEGE TO COME UP AND SPEAK FOR THAT DEPARTMENT. AND THESE TWO PEOPLE BEHIND ME ARE ABSOLUTELY INSTRUMENTAL TO OUR FINANCIAL SUCCESS. WHETHER IT IS LEE HUFFSTEDLER OUR CHIEF ACCOUNTANT, CRAFTED US THROUGH AND GUIDING US THROUGH AN EXTERNAL AUDIT BY AN INDEPENDENT CPA MAKING SURE WE ARE DOING NOW WHAT WE ARE SUPPOSED TO DO AND WHAT WE DID IN A RETROSPECT FROM A PROFESSIONAL PERSPECTIVE. AND MIKE PERRY OUR BUDGET OFFICER. THE BUDGET, THE C.I.P. THE LIST GOES ON AND ON AND ON. HE HELPS CRAFT THE CITIFUTURE OF THE CITY FROM A FINANCIAL PERSPECTIVE. QUITE SIMPLY, WE ARE LUCKY TO HAVE THEM. I AM LUCKY TO HAVE THEM. CONGRATULATIONS AND MY THANKS. GREAT NEWS FOR THE CITY. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YOU ARE RIGHT. YOU THANKED -- YOU HAVE A GREAT TEAM THERE. AND FEW THINGS AS BEAUTIFUL AS THESE GREAT CREDIT RATINGS BECAUSE IT SAVES US A LOT OF MONEY AND SAVES TAXPAYERS A LOT OF MONEY. THE BETTER THE CREDIT RATING THE BETTER THE INTEREST RATE AND THE BETTER WE ARE -- AS WE KEEP MOVING FORWARD BUT AT A LOWER COST. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT. I SAW -- YOU WANT TO GO FIRST OR MIRANDA? >>BILL CARLSON: HE CAN GO FIRST. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MIRANDA, CARLSON AND HENDERSON. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WANT TO SAY THANKS TO EVERYONE IN YOUR DEPARTMENT AND EVERYONE WHO WORKED SO DILIGENTLY IN THE CITY. THEED A IN LOGISTICS AND ASSET MANAGEMENT, THE CHIEF OF STAFF AND EVERYONE ELSE, AND ALL THE DEPARTMENT HEADS FOR MAKING SURE THAT THIS CREDIT UNION STAYS WAY ABOVE THE NORM. >>DENNIS ROGERO: THANK YOU, SIR. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WASHINGTON CALLING YOU. >>BILL CARLSON: YEAH, COUPLE OF THINGS. >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES, SIR. >>BILL CARLSON: ONE, THANKS TO YOU AND YOUR STAFF AND THE DEPARTMENT HEADS THAT SUFFER NOT GETTING ALL THE MONEY THEY NEED. THANK YOU TO EVERYONE WHO HAS BEEN -- ALL THE PEOPLE WHO ENABLE US, INCLUDING ALL OF THE FOLKS UP HERE WHO ENABLE US TO KEEP OUR RESERVES HIGH BECAUSE WITHOUT THAT, THIS WILL ALL GO A AWAY. JUST -- YOU CAN SEND US THE REPORTS IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY. BUT COULD YOU JUST TELL US REAL SHORT TOP LINE, WAS THERE -- WHAT WAS THEIR REASONING FOR GOING UP? AND NUMBER TWO, WAS THERE ANY GUIDANCE OR SUGGESTIONS FOR THE FUTURE? >>DENNIS ROGERO: NO, THANK YOU. AND I AM GOING FROM MEMORY, BUT WE CAN ABSOLUTELY SEND YOU THE REPORTS. THE CREDIT RATING AGENCIES HAVE ISSUED THEIR PRESS RELEASES AS IS THE PRO COOL, BUT PROBABLY ONLY BEING VIEWED IN THE FINANCIAL SECTORS AND ANOTHER REASON WE WANTED TO GET IN HERE AS SOON AS POSSIBLE AHEAD OF THE STORM SO YOU DIDN'T HEAR ABOUT THIS SOME PLACE ELSE. AND A CREDIT TO YOU. THE ISSUE THE CREDIT RATING, FOR INSTANCE. I WILL TRY NOT TO BE TOO TECHNICAL, BUT IN OTHER PLACES YOU HEARD OF COURSE -- WE TALKED OF GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS, RIGHT. WHERE WE SAY, HEY, NO MATTER WHAT, EVEN IF IT INCLUDES RAISING PROPERTY TAXES, WE ARE GOING TO PAY THIS DEBT, OKAY. IN FLORIDA -- NOT IN ALL STATES, BUT IN ORDER TO DO THAT, ANY LOCALITY HAS TO HAVE A REFERENDUM. FOR PROBABLY OBVIOUS REASONS, WE DON'T DO GENERAL OBLIGATIONS -- GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA, TO MY KNOWLEDGE, THE CITY HAS NEVER DONE ONE. MANY OTHER STATES DO. AND FROM A MARKET AND CREDIT RATING PERSPECTIVE AND AN INVESTOR PERSPECTIVE, IF YOU ARE GOING TO PLEDGE TO RAISE PROPERTY TAXES, YOU MUST BE PRETTY SERIOUS ABOUT YOUR INTENT TO PAY THIS DEBT. SO IT BECOMES A VERY, VERY SECURED DEBT, VERY GOOD RATINGS. VERY LOW INTEREST RATES, ETC. RECENTLY, ONE COUNTY C CHANGES IN THE CREDIT AGENCY RATING ENVIRONMENT IS -- CAN I GET TO THE ELMO REAL QUICK? AND JUST AS AN EXAMPLE, YOU SEE THESE NINE AD VALOREM REVENUE BONDS. YOU SEE THESE UTILITY REVENUE BONDS. REVENUE BONDS. REVENUE BONDS. ONE OF THE CHANGES IN THESE ENVIRONMENTS. IF A LOCALITY CAN DO A COVENANT TO BUDGET TO APPROPRIATE. TO PAY THIS DEBT BACK, EVEN NOT FROM PROPERTY TAXES. ONE OF THE REASONS WE CALL IT A NON-AD VALOREM BOND. WE WANT TO MAKE IT VERY SPECIFIC AND EXPLICIT. WE ARE NOT PLEDGING PROPERTY TAXES. BUT THE GENERAL PHILOSOPHY HAS TURNED IF WE ARE WILLING TO DO A COVENANT TO BUDGET AND APPROPRIATE. THAT IS NOT THE WORD THEY USE, THEY DON'T AUTO US AGREEMENT OR ASSURANCES. IT IS A COVENANT. THEY TAKE IT SERIOUSLY LIKE THEY DON'T COME IN AND DO A REVIEW, IT IS A SURVEILLANCE. VERY, VERY SERIOUS. THEY HAVE BEGUN TO THINK, HEY, IF YOU ARE WILLING TO COVENANT IT, WE OUGHT TO WEIGHT IT STRONGER THAN IT IS NOW. BECAUSE YOU ARE MAKING A COMMITTEDMENT COME HELL AND HIGH WATER, YOU WILL PAY THAT DEBT BACK. YOU ARE SEEING THAT REFLECTED HERE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA WITH OUR SPECIAL REVENUE BONDS AND LEADS UPWARDS INTO THAT OVERALL CREDIT RATING. CHANGE IN METHODOLOGY TAKING THOSE RATINGS MORE SERIOUS. ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THEY MENTIONED IN THE PRESS RELEASE. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN -- YOU CIRCULATED IT, COUNCILMAN CARLSON, 20% OF EXPENDITURES. NOT MEETING 20% BUT EXCEEDING 20% OF EXPENDITURES ON AN ASSIGNED FUND BALANCE FOR NEARLY 20 YEARS. THEY HIGHLIGHT THAT. IN A CONCENTRATED AUDIT FOR REASONS WE TALKED ABOUT. NOT ONLY A VERY STRONG FUND BALANCE, BUT WHEN THINGS ARISE, WHETHER KNOWN OR UNKNOWN, WE ARE PREPARED TO DEAL WITH THOSE THINGS. AND, AGAIN, RECOGNIZING THE CITY OF TAMPA HAS A VERY, VERY STRONG ECONOMIC DRIVER IN OUR METROPOLITAN STATISTICAL AREA. I HOPE THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES, I WROTE A LITTLE NOTE TO MYSELF ON HERE. WAIT A SECOND AND LET ME LOOK AT IT REALLY QUICK. CONGRATULATIONS, FIRST OF ALL. >>DENNIS ROGERO: THANK YOU. >>GWEN HENDERSON: I GOT HERE 17 MONTHS AGO, YOU ALL CAME UP HERE A COUPLE OF TIMES RECEIVING AWARDS, YOU KNOW, NOR THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT. AND SO THIS IS PROOF THAT THE WORK HAS CONTINUED IN A VERY SUCCESSFUL WAY AND I COMMEND YOU ON THAT. >>DENNIS ROGERO: THANK YOU. >>GWEN HENDERSON: ESPECIALLY BECAUSE -- ONE OF THE COMPLAINTS THAT COME FROM UP HERE IS ABOUT OUR BONDING CAPACITY AND APPARENTLY IT HAS NOT HURT US AT ALL. WE ARE CAPABLE OF DOING THAT AND WE DO IT AT THE RIGHT TIME APPARENTLY IF OUR SCORES ARE REPRESENTED THE SAME WAY THAT, YOU KNOW, MY CREDIT SCORES ARE REPRESENTED. SO I HAVE A GREAT APPRECIATION NOR INFORMATION. >>DENNIS ROGERO: THANK YOU. >>GWEN HENDERSON: IN TERMS OF OUR FUTURE OUTLOOK, ANYTHING THAT WE SHOULD ANTICIPATE FROM YOU ALL THAT IS GOING TO COME BEFORE US? OR ARE YOU EVER CONCERNED ABOUT ANYTHING THAT WE ARE DOING IN THE FUTURE IN TERMS OF INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS THAT COULD IMPACT US AT ANY CAPACITY FINANCIALLY? >>DENNIS ROGERO: YOU KNOW, AFFECTS OF THIS STORM NOT WITHSTANDING BECAUSE WE ARE RER HE VIEWING THAT. THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT DIRECTOR SHARED OUR DAMAGE ASSESSMENT IS NEARLY $80,000. ABOUT TEN TIMES WHAT WE HAVE IN OUR HURRICANE RESERVE. >>GWEN HENDERSON: BUT YOU CAN GET FEMA TO HELP OUT WITH THAT AS WELL. >>DENNIS ROGERO: ABSOLUTELY, FEMA INSURANCES FEDERAL STATE REIMBU REIMBURSEMENT. IT WILL BE A CRASH FLOW LIQUIDITY ISSUE. THE DAMAGES ARE EXTENSIVE. SETTING ASIDE WHAT WE DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE STORM. WE THINK WITH THE FIVE-YEAR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM, THE SOLID WASTE EXERCISE THAT WE JUST GONE THROUGH, OR THE PIPES PROGRAM -- AND WE WILL BE SHARING ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ABOUT THE PIPES PROGRAM. WE THINK AS THE CITY, WE HAVE A SHORT-TERM AND LONG-TERM PLAN FOR INFRASTRUCTURE REGARDING OF THE FUNDING SOURCE. THIS WILL ONLY, OF COURSE, HELP US FOR SOME OF THE REASONS THE CHAIR STATED. LOWER INTEREST RATES AND ETC. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. YES, MA'AM. >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO SAY CONGRATULATIONS. >>DENNIS ROGERO: THANK YOU, MA'AM. >>LYNN HURTAK: JUST FOR THE PUBLIC IN LOOKING AT THIS CHART. IT LOOKS TO ME, AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, THE LOWEST RATING WE HAVE IS CAPITAL A, TWO LOWERCASE As. >>DENNIS ROGERO: CAPITAL A, TWO LOWERCASE As. >>LYNN HURTAK: UNDER WATER BONDS AND MOODY'S. >>DENNIS ROGERO: NO, MA'AM. ITS IN GREEN. THAT IS THEIR EQUIVALENT OF A TRIPLE A ALL CAPS. A THAT IS THE HIGHEST. LITTLE CONFUSING. >>LYNN HURTAK: I DON'T SEE ANY ON HERE. WHAT IS THE LOWEST IT GETS. DOES IT GO TO OTHER LETTERS. >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES, MA'AM. IT GOES TO INVESTMENT -- JUNK BONDS, A, B, C, D, AND EVEN Z. >>LYNN HURTAK: WE ARE IN THE ALL A. SOME ARE PLUSES, SOME ARE ARE MINUSES. BUT SINCE IT WAS BROUGHT UP ABOUT THE STORM, I WAS GOING TO TALK ABOUT THIS. THE CONCERN IS LOSS OF PROPERTY TAX FROM THE DAMAGES AND FROM, QUITE FRANKLY, SOME OF OUR HEALTHIEST AREA THAT PROVIDE THE MOST PROPERTY TAX. SO I -- I AM -- I AM LESS BULLISH ON BONDING THAN I WAS BEFORE. I AM VERY CONCERNED. I EXPECT THAT WE ALL WILL HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS GOING FORWARD. TODAY IS NOT THE DAY TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION. GUIDE IN THAT REGARD IS WONDERFULLY HELPFUL. WE STILL HAVE TWO FULL MONTHS OF HURRICANE SEASON. WE HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT THIS WILL STILL BE BUSY. SO I AM VERY INTERESTED TO -- TO -- TO SEE WHAT IS NEXT. AND WHAT WE CAN DO. AND, YOU KNOW, I AM -- I AM CONFIDENT IN -- IN HOW -- IN HOW WE HAVE GONE THROUGH STORMS BEFORE. AND YOU MADE IT VERY CLEAR THAT WE GET 80% TO 90% BACK OF WHAT WE SPENT AND IF WE DON'T HAVE IN THE HURRICANE RESERVE, WE CAN'T SPEND. I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO HAVING THE CONVERSATIONS FURTHER AND I WANTED TO SAY THAT IT IS ON MY MIND ALREADY, AND IT HAS TO BE ON YOURS AS WELL. SO I WANT TO SAY CONGRATULATIONS BECAUSE WE MAY NEED THESE. >> YES, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YOUR CONCERNS ARE WELL-FOUNDED. WE HAVE THE SAME CONCERNS AND WE WILL HAVE MANY, MANY CONVERSATIONS AND GO THROUGH ALL THE DIFFERENT MECHANISMS THAT WE WILL HAVE TO GET US THROUGH, BECAUSE AS WE DISCUSSED BEFORE, FEDERAL REIMBURSEMENT IS NOT ALWAYS THE QUICKEST. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: DO YOU HAVE CONVERSATIONS OF PROPERTY APPRAISER HENRIQUEZ OF POSSIBLE REVENUE DROPS BECAUSE OF THE DESTRUCTION? >>DENNIS ROGERO: NOT YET. WE, OF COURSE, WILL. WHAT I WOULD EXPECT IS THAT THEY ARE TRYING TO FIND OUT WHAT THEY DON'T KNOW BEFORE WE START HAVING AN INTERAGENCY DISCUSSION. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: VERY GOOD, THANK YOU. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >>DENNIS ROGERO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. BAIRD, 76. OR SOMEBODY. YES, SIR. AND WE HAVE A POWERPOINT TO GO WITH ITEM NUMBER 76. >>LUIS VIERA: I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG THIS WILL RUN. MAY I MAKE SOME QUICK MOTIONS ON SOME OTHER ITEMS HERE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: FOR YOUR NEW BUSINESS JUST IN CASE? >>LUIS VIERA: IT IS, BUT ALSO WITH ANOTHER ITEM HERE THAT I DON'T THINK I AM GOING TO BE HERE FOR. I WANTED TO FEEL COUNCIL OUT ON THIS. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I DON'T THINK THIS WILL BE VERY LONG. >> I CAN BE SHORT. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE WILL MAKE SURE YOU WILL GET THAT BEFORE 3:30. GO AHEAD. >> ERIC WEISS, WASTEWATER DEPARTMENT DIRECTOR. IF I CAN PULL UP THE POWERPOINT. IT IS VERY BRIEF. THIS ITEM BEFORE YOU IS A GUARANTEE MAXIMUM PRICE CONTRACT FOR OUR MASTER PLAN PROJECT AT THE HOWARD F. CURREN ADVANCED WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT AND SPECIFIC LEAVE SLUDGE DIGESTION EXPANSION PROJECT. I JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF SLIDES HERE. MAY LOOK FAMILIAR. LAST MONTH, I DID A SIX-MONTH PIPES UPDATE. I TALKED ABOUT THIS VERY PROJECT. WE FINISHED NEGOTIATIONS. AND THIS IS THE GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE CONTRACT. I THINK I WENT ONE TOO MANY -- THERE WE GO. SO AT THE HOWARD CURREN PLANT. WE COLLECT SOLIDS THROUGH THE PROCESS CALLED SLUDGE. WE TREAT THE SLUDGE TO WHAT EPA CALLS A CLASS B WHICH WE DISPOst POSE OF IT. WE TREAT THE SLUDGE ON-SITE WITH AN AEROBIC DIGESTION. WHAT THAT IS, THE MIDDLE OF THE PICTURE BIG TANKS CALLED ANAEROBIC DIGESTERS. RAW SLUDGE GOES INTO THE BIG TANKS. YOU HEAT IT UP 95 DEGREES. 15 DAYS. STIR IT UP. WHAT THAT DOES GETS RID OF THE PROTOZOANS AND A LOT OF THE ORGANIC MODELS. WE HAVE SEVEN OF THE TANKS. FOUR OF THEM WERE THE ORIGINAL TANKS BUILT IN THE 1950s. BEYOND THE SERVICE LIFE. ALL THE PIPING, COMPRESSORS PUMPS, SO THAT IS WHAT THE BACKBONE OF THIS PROJECT IS, AND IRONICALLY, THERE IS A SUSTAINABILITY THAT SENDS TO THIS. JUST LIKE OTHER PARTS OF THE PLAN THAT YOU MAY HAVE HEARD, IT WAS ENGINEERING PRACTICE AT THAT TIME IN THE 50s AND 60s. PUT THE ELECTRICAL EQUIPMEN BELOW GRADE IN THE BASEMENT, YOU DON'T DON'T SEE IT. THAT CAME BACK TO HURT US LAST WEEK. WE HAVE THREE SLUDGE CONTROL BUILDINGS FOR THIS PROCESS. ONE OF THEM FLOODED OUT. ABOUT $250,000 WORTH OF DAMAGE AND STILL NOT ONLINE. GETTING CLOSE HOPEFULLY BY TODAY AND TOMORROW. OPINION BUT IT FLOODED THE BASEMENT, THE COMPRESSORS, THE PUMPS, THE ELECTRICAL EQUIPMENT. PART INFORM GMP, YOU GET TWO OF THESE BIG TANKS, ABOUT TWO AND A HALF MILLION GALLONS OF STORAGE EACH. THE NEW SLUDGE CONTROL BUILDINGS ARE ABOVE GRADE, 100-YEAR FLOOD PLAIN. I HAVE ONE MORE QUICK SLIDE, OKAY. THIS GMP I AM TALKING ABOUT IS PHASE TWO. I AM QUICKLY GOING TO TALK OF A PHASE THREE, BECAUSE THEY ARE KIND OF INTERRELAKTED. IN THE AEROBIC DIGESTERS WE MAKE METHANE GAS. EQUIVALENT TO 1.4 MILLION GALLONS OF DIESEL FUEL. THAT IS HOW MUCH IT IS WORTH. WHAT WE HAVE DONE FROM THE 1970s TO A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, WE USED THAT METHANE GAS, PUT IT IN GENERATORS TO PRODUCE ELECTRICITY AND OFFSET ABOUT 20% OF OUR ELECTRIC COST TO THE PLAN. FOUR OR FIVE YEARS AGO, THEY GOT TOO OLD AND UNREPAIRABLE. YOU SEE IN THE MIDDLE PICTURE A FLARE. WE HAVE BEEN FLARING IT EVER SINCE BECAUSE YOU GOT TO GET RID OF IT. OUR MASTER PLAN SAID LOOK AT A BUNCH OF ALTERNATIVES. THE BEST WAY FORWARD TO TAKE THIS METHANE GAS. CLEAN IT UP. CONSIDERED DIRTY GAS. THROUGH THE TOP RIGHT, MEMBRANES IT WILL GO THROUGH TO CLEAN IT. IF WE TAKE THAT GAS, YOU CAN PUT IT INTO THE NATURAL GAS PIPELINE AND IF IT IS USED FOR TRANSPORTATION FUELS LIKE THE PICTURE, IRS GIVES YOU A TAX CREDIT. SO IT LOOKS LIKE NOW A NEW PROGRAM THAT WE COULD GET $20 MILLION OFF OUR PHASE TWO GMP TODAY. WE WILL KNOW IN A COUPLE OF MONTHS. THEY KIND OF DID DRAFT RULES. KIND OF VAGUE. IT LOOKS LIKE WE ARE ELIGIBLE, BUT WE HIRED AN OUTSIDE TAX CONSULTANT TO HELP US. AND -- AND NEW RULES COMING OUT IN THE NEXTLE OF MONTHS. WE WILL KNOW SOON AND HELPFUL TO GET THAT $20 MILLION. I'M HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS PROJECT. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. >>LYNN HURTAK: YOU KNOW BEFORE I -- JUST A QUICK QUESTION. THIS WILL BE BONDED OR -- THROUGH WASTEWATER, CORRECT? >> THROUGH WASTEWATER, THE PIPES PROGRAM. >>LYNN HURTAK: EXCELLENT. WE HAVE ALL THOSE NEW RATINGS. THAT'S IT. THIS IS A VERY -- I WOULD SAYS IT AN EXCITING PROJECT. I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO WHAT WE ARE DOING. HOW -- WHAT IS THE TIME FRAME FOR THIS PROJECT? >> ACTUALLY A THREE-YEAR PROJECT. BECAUSE A LOT OF IT HAS TO BE IN SERIES. BECAUSE WE STILL HAVE TO RUN THE PLANT AND RUN THE OTHER SLUDGE DIGESTERS THAT KEEP THEM GOING WHILE WE ARE ADDING THIS. AND THE USUAL LONG LEAD TIME OF GETTING BIG PIECES OF ROTATING EQUIPMENT. >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY ELSE? IF NOT, A MOTION TO MOVE THIS ITEM. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SO MOVED. >>LYNN HURTAK: SECOND. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. OPPOSED. >> IS THIS TWO READINGS THOUGH? IS THAT THE WAY -- >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THIS IS JUST ONE ITEM. IT WAS PLACED UNDER STAFF REPORTS BECAUSE OF THE DOLLAR AMOUNT. >>. >>BRAD BAIRD: BRAD BAIRD, DEPUTY ADMINISTRATOR. BECAUSE IT IS OVER 20 MILLION, IT HAS TO COME BACK A SECOND TIME. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: BY MOVING THE RESOLUTION IT SETS IT FOR FIRST READING. >>BRAD BAIRD: THIS WAS FOR DISCUSSION. THE SECOND ONE IS FOR APPROVAL. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OH, OKAY. >>LYNN HURTAK: MOTION TO RECONSIDER. >>BILL CARLSON: SECOND. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE, OPPOSED? >>LYNN HURTAK: NOTION BRING IT BACK FOR APPROVAL ON OCTOBER 17. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT. LAST ITEM OF THE DAY BEFORE NEW BUSINESS IS ITEM NUMBER 81, A MOTION I DID COUNCILMAN VIERA. MR. JUSTIN VASKE IS HERE WITH A VERBAL REPORT. YOU HAVE MOTIONS REGARDING THIS. >>LUIS VIERA: I DO. AND I WILL SET THIS UP IF I MAY, MR. CHAIRMAN. WE LEARNED THAT THE APPRENTICESHIP ORDINANCE THAT WE PASSED -- GOSH, I THINK IT WAS 020, IF I RECALL, HAS BEEN PREEMPTED BY THE -- BY THE FLORIDA LEGISLATURE AND THE GOVERNOR. AND I -- I THINK THAT IS AWFUL. I THINK THAT IS TERRIBLE. WHAT WE SOUGHT TO DO HERE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA WAS TO HAVE A -- A MIDDLE PATH, I GUESS, FULL WITH WHAT ST. PETERSBURG DID WHERE THEY HAVE A 15% NUMBER WITHOUT THE ACCOMMODATIONS THAT WE HAD, AS WELL AS THE DISADVANTAGED CITIZENS PROVISION. WHAT WE SOUGHT TO DO WAS TO HAVE IT AT 12%. TO HAVE A NUMBER OF GOOD FAITH EFFORTS SO THAT IF SOMEBODY DIDN'T REACH THAT 12%, WE COULD WORK WITH THEM TO TRY TO HIT A TRIPLE OPPOSED TO A GRAND SLAM ON THAT ISSUE. AND UNFORTUNATELY, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU ARE A HAMMER, EVERYTHING IS A NAIL, RIGHT. UNFORTUNATELY WE FELL UNDER THAT IN THE CITY OF TAMPA. I WANTED JUSTICE JUSTIN TO COME AND BRIEF US ON THIS. I WANTED TO MAKE A MOTION. OUR MAIN TOOL HAS UNFORTUNATELY HAS BEEN TAKEN AWAY FROM US. I THOUGHT WE USE IT IN A VERY REASONABLE WAY. I WANTED TO MOTION WITH STAFF TO COME TO BACK AN ORDINANCE AND INCENTIVES OF STATE CERTIFIED APPRENTICESHIP AND DIFFERENT PROGRAMS WE CAN TAKE BECAUSE THIS IS -- TO ME, THIS IS A REAL PUNCH IN THE GUT FOR TAMPA'S WORKING FAMILIES AND YOUNG PEOPLE MO WANT A SHOT IN LIFE. AGAIN, THAT IS JUST THE WAY IT IS. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. VAKKE, GO. >>JUSTIN VASKE: JUSTIN VASKE, CITY ATTORNEY'S DEPARTMENT. I AM WORKING ON AN ORDINANCE AM SOPPED THINGS IN THE ■OLD ORDINANCE WE CAN'T ENFORCE. I AM LOOKING FOR AN INCENTIVE PROGRAM. I AM WORKING WITH BRENDA AND HOPEFULLY WILL HAVE SOMETHING BY THE END OF THE YEAR. I WON'T SAY SAVE THE ORDINANCE BUT THE SAME SECTION OF THE CODE AND SIMILAR PROVISIONS, BUT WE CAN'T REQUIRE ANYTHING, SO WE ARE JUST GOING TO MAKE IT INENTIVIZED, BUT THAT'S IT. THAT'S ALL. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN. >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MAKE A SUGGESTION AND GIVE PLENTY OF TIME AND CONTINUE TO FEBRUARY 20. >>LUIS VIERA: I AM OKAY WITH THAT. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU. AND I WOULD -- I -- -- I WOULD AT LEAST LIKE INDIVIDUAL, LIKE, DISCUSSION. I THINK TALKING TO EACH OF US ABOUT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT CAN HAPPEN. I WOULD LOVE TO BE INCLUDED IN THAT -- TO TALK OF SOME OF THE INCENTIVES IN DIFFERENT WAYS. WE CAN REALLY, REALLY MAKE IT WORTH PEOPLE'S WHILE. >>JUSTIN VASKE: RIGHT. I WOULD JUST LIKE TO HAVE BRENDA McKENZIE INVOLVED WITH THAT. IF THERE WAS A MOTION, WOULD LIKE FOR HER NAME TO BE INVOLVED. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA. >>LUIS VIERA: AND THAT IS WHAT I WAS -- I WROTE IT DOWN. FOR MISS M[L]CcKENZIE TO COME B I WOULD LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT THE NUMBER OF DOLLARS AND APPRENTICESHIPS WE WERE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS ORDINANCE. I WILL BE A BROKEN RECORD ON THIS. WHEN WE STARTED WORKING ON THIS, I STARTED MEETING WITH THE UNIONS AND THE CONTRACTING COMMUNITY MAYBE NINE MONTHS BEFORE I BROUGHT IT UP AT CITY COUNCIL. BECAUSE I WANTED SOMETHING THAT GOT INPUT FROM BOTH SIDES THAT WE COULD MOVE FORWARD. MY BIG AIM -- IT IS DONE AND I WILL BE TRANSPAREN WAS TO TRY TO AVOID LITIGATION BECAUSE. I WILL BE HONEST, I AM SURPRISED THAT LAWS LIKE THAT LASTED AS LONG AS THEY DID FROM TALLAHASSEE. WE HAVE THREE AND A HALF YEARS ON THIS WHICH IS A YEAR AND A HALF A TWO YEARS LONGER THAN I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE. I AM JUST BEING HONEST. VERY GOOD ORDINANCE THAT AS A - ACCOMMODATED SMALL BUSINESSES AND MEDIUM BUSINESSES, AND, ETC. AND MOVED THIS FORWARD -- COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN, WHAT DATE DO YOU HAVE? >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: FEBRUARY 20. >>LUIS VIERA: I AM FINE WITH THAT. HAVE STAFF, LEGAL, YOURSELF OR SOMEBODY ELSE, MISS McKENZIE COME BACK ON A NUMBER OF ISSUES. NUMBER ONE, TO COME BACK WITH AN ORDINANCE CONSISTENT WITH STATE LAW OF INCENTIVES IN THE CITY OF TAMPA FOR CONTRACTORS FOR APPRENTICESHIP, NUMBER ONE, NUMBER TWO FOR MISS McKENZIE TO GIVE US A BRIEFING OF WHAT THAT APPRENTICESHIP LAW HAS DONE AND NOT NECESSARILY A PART OF IT, ALL COUNCILMEMBERS BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE CAN DO, AND WE OUGHT TO MAXIMIZE THAT ATs AS MUCH AS WE CAN. SO UNLESS ANYBODY -- >>LYNN HURTAK: SECOND WITH AN ADDITION, IF I COULD. >>LUIS VIERA: YES, MA'AM, PLEASE. >>LYNN HURTAK: YOUR COMMENTS ABOUT INVOLVING THE CONTRACTING COMMUNITY AND THE UNION. UP WOULD LOVE IF THOSE COULD BE A PART OF IT, BECAUSE THERE IS NO POINT IN BUILDING INCENTIVES IF THEY WON'T BE USED. >>LUIS VIERA: VERY TRUE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ANYTHING ELSE? THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR. THAT CONCLUDES THE AGENDA. GO TO NEW BUSINESS. COUNCILMAN VIERA, I KNOW YOU GOT TO GO, SO I WILL START WITH YOU. >>LUIS VIERA: I HAVE FIVE MINUTES. YES. LET ME FIND MY MOTIONS HERE. THERE WASN'T MUCH THERE. SO I GOT THAT OUT OF THE WAY. THAT OUT OF THE WAY. SO WE HAD A BRIEFING TODAY ON THE -- ON THE GROCERY STORE ISSUE MORE SO FOR SULPHUR SPRINGS. AND WE ARE TALKING A LOT ABOUT THAT IN -- IN CRA RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE CRA IS WHERE WE ARE CHOOSING TO MANEUVER THAT. HOWEVER, BARRING THAT, IS ANYONE AWARE OF THE FARM SHARE PROGRAM IN PINELLAS COUNTY? ANYONE AWARE OF THAT -- IN MIAMI, YES. YOU KNOW WHAT I WILL DO IS, I WILL SEND A MEMO OUT TO CITY COUNCIL BEFORE I MAKE THIS MOTION, BUT FARM SHARE IS A PROGRAM WHERE LOCAL GROCERS. SMALL BUSINESSES GET TOGETHER IN AREAS THAT ARE -- THAT DON'T STORES, ETC. ACCESS TO GROCERY- AND SET UP JUST THAT, A FARM SHARE. I THINK THAT SOMETHING LIKE THEY CAN IN SULPHUR SPRINGS. I REMEMBER -- AND BY THE WAY IN FULL TRANSPARENCY, A MEMBER OF THE STAFF TALKED TO ME ABOUT A WEEK AGO AND NOT MY IDEA, SO I THINK THAT WILL BE A GREAT IDEA. I WILL DO THAT NEXT BEAK, IF YOU MAY BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO SEND THAT OUT. THE SECOND THING IS -- I GOT THE NUMBER ON THE RACIAL RECONCILIATION COMMITTEE. SO TO HAVE TWO ADDITIONAL MEETINGS -- THIS IS A VERY UNIQUE NUMBER. VERY ON POINT, 15,225.50. I DO AGREE -- AND COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK SAID AND I WAS GOING TO ADDRESS THIS AS WELL, THAT HAVING THESE TOPICS, RIGHT, PUT TWO IN ONE MEETING, I DON'T THINK WILL BE EFFICIENT. IF WE ARE GOING TO DO THIS, WE ARE GOING TO DO THIS RIGHT. WE ORIGINALLY THOUGHT OF REQUESTING $75,000 FOR THIS ECONOMY COMMITTEE AND EVEN WITH THIS, $10,000 UNDER THE LEVEL WE ORIGINALLY CONSIDERED. AND THAT WOULD BE MY MOTION. I WANT TO STRESS THIS BECAUSE THIS IS SO IMPORTANT BECAUSE THERE IS ALWAYS DIALOGUE AND ISSUES, ETC. WHEN I MOTIONED FOR THIS, I MET WITH A LOT OF DIFFERENT COMMUNITY GROUPS ON IT. WE TALKED ABOUT HERE IN COUNCIL AS WELL. THE TOPICS THAT WOULD BE ON THIS. I HAVE GONE OVER MR. -- WITH MR. SHELBY THE DIFFERENT RESOLUTIONS. I GO OVER THIS, BECAUSE THIS IS -- TO CALL IT A SENSITIVE ISSUE IS AN UNDERSTATEMENT. I TRY TO DEAL WITH THAT IN A WAY. IF COUNCILMEMBERS HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL TOPICS OR ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE THEY WANT TO ADD ON TO IT, KNOW THAT WE VOTED ON IT. -- I THINK WE TALLIED SEVEN TIMES OR SORE WITH THE PROGRAM WE DISCUSSED WITH THE COMMITTEE AND MY OFFICE IS PUTTING ALOT OF TIME INTO THIS. SO IF OTHER OFFICES HAVE IDEAS OR ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE THAT YOU WANT TO PUT ON THERE, WE CAN DO THAT. BUT YOU GOT TO HELP. BECAUSE WE ARE TAKING A LOT OF TIME IN MY OFFICE ON THIS. AND I AM GLAD TO DO THAT. BUT I JUST SAY THAT. MY MOTION IS BARRING THAT FOR 15,262.50 TO COMPLETE THE NUMBER OF MEETINGS SO THAT WE CAN HAVE A ROBUST -- A TRULY ROBUST RECONCILIATION COMMITTEE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. >>LYNN HURTAK: SECOND. BUT CAN WE ROUND THAT NUMBER. PENNIES IN GOVERNMENT MAKE ME UNCOMFORTABLE. >>LUIS VIERA: I KNOW. HOW ABOUT $20,000. >>LYNN HURTAK: SURE, 20,000 WORKS. MY ONLY OTHER QUESTION -- AND, AGAIN, I -- I WAS THINKING ABOUT THIS TODAY. FOR EACH ITEM, I UNDERSTAND THAT WE WILL HAVE THE FACILITATOR. THERE BE ACTUAL STAFF MEMBERS THERE TO TALK. SO LIKE DURING AFFORDABLE HOUSING, SOMEONE BE THERE TO TALK ABOUT WHAT WE ARE ALREADY DO IN AFFORDABLE HOUSE SOMETHING IN GOOD. >>LUIS VIERA: YES, MA'AM. >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT WAS MY ONLY QUESTION. >>LUIS VIERA: WE DEAL WITH ORGANIZATIONS TO DEAL WITH THE PARTICULAR TOP, INC. AND STAFF MEMBERS THERE. THAT IS PART OF WHAT WE ARE DOING. A GREAT QUESTION. >>LYNN HURTAK: I WILL SECOND THAT. AND REALLY LOOKING FORWARD THIS, AND I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP ON THIS. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON AND THEN CLENDENIN. >>BILL CARLSON: WE TALKED ABOUT THIS MORNING THAT THERE ARE SOME NEW FACTORS BECAUSE OF THE STORM. AND -- TO THE EXTENT STAFF MIGHT BE ABLE TO HELP, IT WOULD BE GREAT TO GET THOSE REIMBURSED BY FEDERAL GOVERNMENT OR SOMEBODY. IF -- WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO ADDRESS THE POST STORM ISSUES ANYWAY. IF IT IS PACKAGED IN THE RIGHT WAY, MAYBE IT WILL GET REIMBURSED. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. OPPOSED. ANYTHING ELSE, SIR. >>LUIS VIERA: NO, SIR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: BEFORE I START WITH EVERYBODY ELSE, I HAVE QUICK MOTIONS. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: UH-OH. >>GWEN HENDERSON: WHY CAN'T YOU GO -- >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: BECAUSE I GET RUSHED. >>GWEN HENDERSON: YOU ARE THE CHAIR CLENDENIN CHAIR PRO TEM RECOGNIZES COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A REMINDER TO ALL COUNCILMEMBERS. WE HAVE UNTIL THE END OF OCTOBER TO TALK TO ADRI COLINA OF THE CITY COUNCIL RENOVATIONS. I MENTIONED IT. FYI, COUNCIL EVENING MEETING WAS SCHEDULED FOR NOVEMBER 1 AT 5:01 P.M. 12 ITEMS ON THAT EVENING. A REGULAR DAY MEETING. AND THEN WE HAVE THIS. SO WE CAN CATCH UP. WE NEED TO RESCHEDULED OUR WORKSHOP FROM SEPTEMBER 26, POSSIBLY ADD THE WORKSHOP ITEMS A REGULAR MEETING COULD BE AN OPTION. TO DO WE HAVE TO DO THAT TODAY, MR. SHELBY -- >>MARTIN SHELBY: SORRY? >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: FOR WORKSHOPS. THE WORKSHOPS WE WERE GOING TO HAVE LAST WEEK BECAUSE OF THE STORM. WE NEED TO LOOK AT DIFFERENT DATES. DO WE DO THAT TODAY -- >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU DON'T REASON IS TO. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CAN'T WE MOVE THE AGENDA ITEMS TO AN EXISTING SCHEDULED WORKSHOP. >>LYNN HURTAK: DON'T HAVE ANOTHER WORKSHOP UNTIL FEBRUARY. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE CAN THINK ABOUT BETWEEN NOW AND NEXT THURSDAY A DATE. SO COUNCILMEMBERS CAN LOOK. COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU. I AM ADAMANT THAT WE TRY TO GET THIS DONE. ANOTHER EADDITION AWANTED TO AD. I THINK WE NEED A WORK. SHOP ABOUT THIS STORM. WE NEED TO TALK OF POSSIBILITIES. SUCCESSES. LIKE A SWAT ANALYSES. SUCCESS OPPORTUNITIES WEAKNESSES, THREATS ABOUT WHAT IS LOOMING FOR FINANCES. WHAT IS LOOMING FOR -- YOU KNOW, WHAT -- WHAT DID OUR FIRST RESPONDERS NEED THAT THEY DIDN'T HAVE. THINGS LIKE THAT. SO I THINK -- IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA TO KIND OF COMBINE ALL OF THAT. I WILL ABSOLUTELY LOOK AT MY CALENDAR. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE WILL TAKE AN IOU. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NEXT THURSDAY NIGHT, COUNCILMEMBERS, LOOK AT THE CALENDARS AND WHERE WE CAN FIT IN THAT WORKSHOP AND ADD THAT STORM ONE. YES SIR? >>MARTIN SHELBY: ARE YOU ALSO CONTEMPLATING -- CONTEMPLATING A THURSDAY AND ANY OTHER DAYS OF THE WEEK A TUESDAY OR -- >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LOOK AT THURSDAY -- WE JUST ADDED THAT EVENING MEETING TO THE REGULAR CITY COUNCIL DAY MEETING. >>MARTIN SHELBY: PERHAPS -- AND WE WILL SEE IF WE CAN GET THAT AGENDA BACK -- PERHAPS SOME CAN BE CONVERTED TO STAFF REPORTS. SOME OF THOSE ITEMS THAT CAN BE EXPEDITED. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO IT BETWEEN NOW AND NEXT THURSDAY. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: AN IOU NEXT. >>GWEN HENDERSON: CAN I SAY SOMETHING -- IMPORTANT FOR ME FOR JBL WAS PART OF THAT WORKSHOP AND THE CONTRACT IS EXPIRING IN APRIL. THE SOONER THE BETTER FOR THAT PARTICULAR PROJECT IS VERY IMPORTANT. WE CAN'T KICK THAT CAN DOWN THE ROAD BECAUSE OF THE NATURE OF IT BEING A CONTRACT THAT IS EXPIRING AND ALL ALL OF THE THINGS THAT IT TAKES TO BE NOTIFIED -- TO BE NOTIFIED FOR RFP. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: BRING THAT TO THE TABLE BEFORE NEXT WEEK. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MAKE IT BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR TO STAY WITHIN THE TIME PERIOD. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. >>LYNN HURTAK: A WAY -- IF WE CAN LOOK AT THE AGENDA WE CAN ADD IT TO ONE OF OUR STAFF REPORTS TIMES TO DISCUSS IT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: BRING IT TO THE MEETING NEXT WEEK AND RESCHEDULED NECK WEEKS. >>GWEN HENDERSON: I WANT TO UNDERSTAND BECAUSE IT IS A WORKSHOP WE HAVE TO NOTIFY THE PUBLIC. DOING A WORKSHOP WITHIN A MEETING, IS THAT -- >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT IS AN IMPORTANT TOPIC. WE CAN MAKE IT HAPPEN. I WOULD LIKE TO WISH COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON A EARLY BIRTHDAY. ♪ HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU ♪ ♪ HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU ♪ >>GWEN HENDERSON: ALREADY VOTED US THE MOST ENTERTAINING ♪ HAPPY BIRTHDAY COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON ♪ ♪ HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU ♪ >>GWEN HENDERSON: LAST YEAR OF THE BABY BOOMERS, 1964. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: JUST LIKE MY AUNT, THAT'S RIGHT. LAST ITEM, PROVIDE A COMMENDATION OFF-SITE. CELEBRATION OF LIFE FOR RUTH "MOTHER" HODGES. CELEBRATION OF LIFE OCTOBER 5, 2024 IN LAKELAND. RETIRED TEACHER/EDUCATORS. ARE, TUTOR, ACADEMIC TUTOR, MUSIC TEACHER. AWARD RECIPIENT FOR THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY HUMAN RIGHTS BOARD I WAS A MEMBER OF YEARS AGO AND PRESENTLY HONORED BY THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL IN 2004. SENSE THEN HONORED FOR HER HUMANITARIAN TRIPS TO HAITI. RECENTLY PASSED AWAY COMPLETING 55 HUMANITARIAN TRIPS. I AM GOING TO DRIVE OVER. IF FIB WANTS TO JOIN ME, 11, 12:00. I WILL PRESENT IT TO THE FAMILY. A REMARKABLE PERSON. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO. SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. OPPOSED. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO, I -- TOP HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT THE STORM AND ABOUT WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENT. THE ENVIRONMENT -- I NEVER SEEN SO MANY STORMS COME OUT OF THE GULF. NEVER TAMPA IT IS GETTING -- IT IS GETTING SCARY WHAT HAPPENING IS. I HOPE I AM WRONG, BUT -- MORE OF A REGULAR OCCURRENCE THAN IN THE PAST. IN THE PAST IT WAS ONE OR TWO AND THAT WAS IT AND THAT WAS LATE OCTOBER. NOW IT IS CHANGING. AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT HOUSING AND YOU LOOK AT HOW WE BUILD. I AM NOT TRYING TO CHANGE THE WORLD. I CAN TELL YOU GO TO ANY ISLAND IN THE CARIBBEAN. THEY DON'T WHERE LIKE WE BUILD. EVERYTHING IS CONCRETE FROM CEILING DOWN AND NOTHING LEAVES. NOW WHEN THEY GO OUT TO THE CAMPO -- THEY CALL IS THEO, THE FARM AREAS, THEY TEAR THEM APART. BUT THOSE BUILDINGS ARE NOT THROWN DOWN. THEY DON'T HAVE ANY EAVES OR HANGOVERS. THEY CAN TAKE THE WALLS THAT COLLAPSE BECAUSE THE ROOF LEAVES AND THE WALLS FALL IN. NOTHING IS DONE. I SAW SOMETHING ON TELEVISION AND AN INDIVIDUAL THAT DID SOMETHING ON ONE OF THE BEACHES. THE WATER DOES NOT GO IN THE HOUSE. HE BUILT SOMETHING THAT -- RAILS, ALUMINIUM. AND THE BACK HAS GOT RUBBER. AND THE WINDOWS AND GARAGES AND FLEXY GRASS ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE FLOOR. UP TO SIX-FOOT HIGH, THE WATER WILL NOT GO IN THE HOUSE. AND ALL THOSE THINGS CAN BE DONE AND BUILT. IF THEY INVENT IT, WE CAN DO IT. I AM NOT SAYING WE HAVE TO DO IT. BUT IT HAS GOT TO BE BROUGHT UP BECAUSE WE HAVE TO SAVE HUMANITY. THE LOSS THESE PEOPLE ARE EXPERIENCING NO ONE CAN TELL YOU ABOUT THEM. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU ARE RIGHT. OPINION COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON. >>GWEN HENDERSON: ALL RIGHT, MICROPHONE IS ON. SO HURTAK DOESN'T HAVE TO TELL ME THAT. FIRST OF ALL, CONGRATULATION CHARLIE MIRANDA PLAZA. I AM CALLING YOU PLAZA FROM NOW ON. MEET NEW THE PLAZA. CONGRATULATIONS. THAT IS REALLY A BIG DEAL, CHARLIE. I AM VERY HONORED TO SIT AT THIS DAIS WITH YOU. SO THERE IS THAT. AND GUIDO, FOR THE RECORD HE GOT EMOTIONAL AND WAS ABOUT TO DRY. I LOVE THAT. I LIKE WHEN MEN DO THAT. I REALLY DO. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT IS TRUE. WENT FROM THE COFFEE SHOP CONVERSATION TO THE DAIS. >>GWEN HENDERSON: I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU SHOWING US THAT. I TOOK A PICTURE OF IT. ALSO, I WANT TO SAY CONGRATULATIONS TO THE COMMUNITY FOR COMING OUT AND SUPP SUPPORTING HBCU WEEK. WE DID NOT LET THE WEATHER STOP US. A WONDERFUL WAY TO ACTIVATA CENTER. THE COMMUNITY CAME OUT. SENIOR CITIZENS IN THEIR 70s AND 80s THAT WALKED THERE FROM THEIR HOMES IN THEIR COLLEGE SHIRTS. JUST SO EXCITING AND I AM REALLY PROUD OF THE OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE THEM SOME ELEVATION IN THEIR COMMUNITY THAT WAY. AND TO CELEBRATE HISTORICAL BLACK COLLEGES. OKAY, SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, FOR THE FIRST TIME IN MY LIFE, I HAVE QUITE A FEW MOTIONS THAT I WANT TO MAKE. AND I WILL START WITH THIS ONE. I WANT TO MAKE A MOTION THAT STAFF PROVIDE A FIVE-MINUTE IN-PERSON REPORT TO PRESENT AN OVERVIEW OF THE DIGITAL ADVERTISING SERVICES CONTRACT BETWEEN THE CITY OF TAMPA AND A CORPORATION. DO I NEED TO READ WHAT I WANT IN IT FOR THE SAKE OF -- A COMPARISON OF CURRENT STATE AND FUTURE -- FUTURE STATE AS IT RELATES TO THE USE OF CONVENTION CENTER DIGITAL ASSETS TO PRODUCE ADVERTISING REVENUE. A SUMMARY OF THE KEY COMPONENTS OF THE AGREEMENT, LIKE TERMS, EXCLUSIVITY AND CAPITAL SHARE AND MARKETING CONTRIBUTIONS FROM THE CONTRACTOR AND ESTIMATE RANGE OF THE FISCAL YEAR ANNUAL REVENUE RESULTING IN THIS NEW AGREEMENT AND ASSUMPTIONS USED IN THE ESTIMATE, AND ANY OTHER PART-TIME MEANT DETAILS THAT I MAY NOT BE ASKING FOR RIGHT NOW, BUT YOU ALREADY KNOW IT EXISTS THAT WILL BE HELPFUL AS WELL BY NOVEMBER 7. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION BY COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON. SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA. YOU CAN HAND THEM TO THE CLERK. >>GWEN HENDERSON: I HAVE ONE MORE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. OPPOSED. >>GWEN HENDERSON: A MOTION FROM STAFF FOR A FIVE-MINUTE REPORT FOR A MARKET FEASIBILITY STUDY OF THE CONVENTION PERFORMED BY SPORTS AND LEISURE INTERNATIONAL LCC. SIX-MONTH CONTRACT. I REQUEST THAT THE DATE FOR THE BRINGS BE APRIL 17, 2025. THIS WILL GIVE US TIME TO CONSIDER ANY POTENTIAL IMPACTS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2026. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON. SECONDED FROM VIERA. FAVOR IF I EVER. OPPOSED. >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU. AND KUDOS TO OUR FINANCIAL ANALYSTS FOR SUPPORTING AND HELPING WITH THAT THAT. OKAY, HERE IS THE OTHER ONE. OKAY. WELL, LET ME DO THE EASY ONE. THIS IS EASIER. EAST TAMPA. YOU KNOW, WE -- WE MOVED THE SUMMER YOUTH EMPLOYMENT PROGRAM OUT OF CRA FUNDS. I WOULD LIKE A STAFF REPORT REGARDING THE UPCOMING SUMMER YOUTH EMPLOYMENT PROGRAM ON JANUARY 9, 2025 IN A STAFF REPORT. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON AND -- >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WRITTEN? >>GWEN HENDERSON: A STAFF REPORT. STAFF REPORT WRITTEN AND VERBAL. I LIKE VERBAL, BUT I WILL TAKE A WRITTEN ONE, GUESS. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A WRITTEN STAFF REPORT -- >>GWEN HENDERSON: YOU KNOW WHAT, I WILL TAKE VERBAL BECAUSE -- THIS IS IMPORTANT -- YOU KNOW MY COMMUNITY, THEY HEAR -- THEY LIKE TO HEAR. SO LET'S JUST DO IT VERBAL. AND IN A WRITTEN STAFF REPORT. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. >>GWEN HENDERSON: OKAY, THANK YOU. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHO WAS THE SECOND. >>LYNN HURTAK: I WAS. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. >>GWEN HENDERSON: GIRL POWER. OKAY, HERE IS ANOTHER ONE. MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN ARTS AND CULTURAL CENTER IS BEING PURSUED BY THE COUNTY ON CITY'S LAND. I UNDERSTAND IT IS MOVING FORWARD. SOME -- THAT WE ARE NOT DUPLICATING AND MAKING -- WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE TRULY MEET THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY. I WANT TO REQUEST -- I AM CIRCLING BACK TO THE YELLOWJACKETS. I AM BUILDING THIS HERE. TIME REQUESTING THAT STAFF BEGIN SPEAKING TO THE RELATED GROUP TO REVISE THE COMMUNITY BENEFIT AGREEMENT, BECAUSE WE DON'T NEED TWO CULTURAL CENTERS ON THE 120 ACRE THERE IS THAT WILL BE NEXT DOOR SO -- PER THE EXISTING COMMUNITY BENEFIT AGREEMENT. IT IS, IN THERE THAT THEY ARE BUILDING A CULTURAL CENTER. IF THE COUNTY IS MOVING FORWARD WITH THEIRS, WE CAN LOOK AT THAT AND SEE WHAT CAN BE DONE WITH THOSE FUNDS INCLUDING FACILITY AND PARK UPGRADES WHERE THE DISPLACED YELLOWJACKETS NOW RESIDE. OH, LET ME BRING -- ON -- AND ALSO, CAN I INCLUDE THIS IN IT, YOU KNOW, SO -- ALSO INCLUDED IN THAT THE -- THE REQUESTED UPDATE ON THE STATUS OF RELEASING THE REVERTER CLAUSE. BECAUSE THERE IS A REVERTER CLAUSE THAT THE LAND -- >>LYNN HURTAK: SECOND. >>GWEN HENDERSON: NOVEMBER 7 THAT DATE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION AND A SECOND. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I HAVE A QUESTION. YOU ARE ASKING FOR STAFF TO COME BACK AND GIVE US -- >>GWEN HENDERSON: GIVE US A STAFF REPORT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: OPTIONS ON THE STAFF REPORT. >>GWEN HENDERSON: WE HAVE TO RELEASE THAT REVERTER ON THAT LAND AND THEY ARE -- >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE CAN'T DEMAND THEM ANYTHING. HENDERSON-IT IS OUR CITY -- OUR PROPERTY. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHAT ARE OUR OPTIONS. WE SIGNED AN AGREEMENT. >>GWEN HENDERSON: WHEN DID WE SIGN THE AGREEMENT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THE COMMUNITY BENEFIT AGREEMENT. >>GWEN HENDERSON: WITH THE RELATED GROUP. THEY DON'T HAVE TO BUILD THE COMMUNITY CENTER IF -- IF WE ARE GOING TO GIVE THE CURRENT LAND WHERE THE REVERTER CLAUSE IS WHERE THEY ARE PURSUING A CULTURAL CENTER. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I GET IT. I GET 100% WHAT YOU ARE TRYING TO DO. I WANT THE WORDS RIGHT. >>GWEN HENDERSON: ME TOO. THIS ONE IS EMOTIONAL SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE I GET IT RIGHT, MR. CARLSON. >>LYNN HURTAK: MY ONLY QUESTION, WILL THAT BE ENOUGH TIME? HAVE YOU WORKED WITH STAFF ON THIS? >>GWEN HENDERSON: WE ALREADY -- REMEMBER, I MADE A MOTION BEFORE AND MISS FEELEY CAME BACK AND SAID THAT RELATED GROUP IS NOT OBLIGATED, BUT -- BUT IF THIS COMMUNITY CULTURAL CENTER IS PART OF THE COUNTY'S PURSUIT, YOU KNOW, THEN CONVERSATIONS HAVE ALREADY BEEN HAD. EVEN IF IT IS JUST -- EVEN SOME INFORMATION ABOUT THOUGHT PROCESS, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW ON NOVEMBER 7 AND MAKE A MOTION. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? YES, MA'AM. >>GWEN HENDERSON: I ALSO WANT A MOTION FOR STAFF TO BRING BACK AN AMENDMENT TO THE SIGN CODE, A DRAFT ORDINANCE FOR DISCUSSION THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR LARGE FORMAT MEDIA WITHIN THE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT ON A LIMITED BASIS ON OCTOBER 17, 2024. I CAN GIVE YOU ALL SOME INFORMATION AND BACKGROUND ABOUT THAT IF I CAN GET A SECOND FOR DISCUSSION. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SECOND. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. SHELBY. >>MARTIN SHELBY: I AM NOT FAMILIAR WITH THIS. SO FOR. GIVE ME. WHEN YOU SAY LARGE FORMAT -- YOU KNOW THE CITY HAS A BILLBOARD ORDI ORDINANCE. >>GWEN HENDERSON: A DRAFT ORDINANCE FOR DISCUSSION. >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU ARE SAYING A "DRAFT ORDINANCE FOR DISCUSSION." A LOT OF WORK THANK GO INTO THE A CREATION OF A DRAFT ORDINANCE. DO YOU WANT AN INITIAL STAFF REPORT. >>GWEN HENDERSON: WE ARE WORKING ON THAT PART OF. WHEN STAFF COMES BACK, THEY WILL HAVE INFORMATION TO PRESENT TO US. >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU HAVE TALKED -- YOU TALKED WITH THEM SO YOU HAVE ENOUGH TIME? >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. >> EXCUSE ME -- >>GWEN HENDERSON: HERE IS ANOTHER THING. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: UH-OH. MISS FEELEY. >>ABBYE FEELEY: THAT MOTION IS FOR OCTOBER 17. >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES. >>ABBYE FEELEY: THAT IS 14 DAYS. I CANNOT DO THAT IN 14 DAYS. THAT IS A HUGE ASK. I AM, SORY. BUT 14 DAY IS JUST NOT PRACTICAL GIVEN THE SITUATION WE ARE IN AND THE CODE UPDATE AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT IS GOING ON. I WOULD REALLY VALUE THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK THROUGH THAT MOTION A LITTLE BIT FURTHER WITH YOU. BUT I CANNOT DO THAT. >>GWEN HENDERSON: DOING IT NOW OR -- WE WILL HAVE TO PUSH IT BACK, YOU KNOW, TWO YEARS IF WE DON'T DO IT NOW. WE HAVE SOME LEGWORK INFORMATION. AND AT LEAST LOOK AT IT OCTOBER 17 AND COME BACK WITH IT IF YOU CAN'T. IF YOU LOOK WHAT IS BEING PROVIDED THAT WILL GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY SAY SO AT LEAST LOOK CAN AT THE INFORMATION. >>ABBYE FEELEY: TWO YEARS RESPECTFULLY COUNCILWOMAN, BUT I NEED MORE THAN TWO WEEKS TO LOOK AT THAT FOR YOU. >>LYNN HURTAK: THE ISSUE IS -- >>ABBYE FEELEY: FOR NOVEMBER, SOME TIME IN THERE, I WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE IT. >>LYNN HURTAK: THE ISSUE IS, THEY HAVE TO HAVE EVERYTHING FOR ON BASE TOMORROW FOR OCTOBER 17. >>GWEN HENDERSON: FOR OCTOBER 17. >>MARTIN SHELBY: DRAFT AN ORDINANCE INVOLVES LEGAL AND I WILL SHARE YOU WITH -- AND IN MY TIME HERE, THE SIGN CODE -- REVISIONS TO THE SIGN CODE HAVE BEEN VERY, VERY CONTROVERSIAL. AND -- AND INVOLVING LITIGATION. AND INVOLVING A LOT OF LEGAL ISSUES AS WELL. AND A LOT OF STAKEHOLDERS AS WELL. >>GWEN HENDERSON: OKAY. WE HAVE A LOT OF MOMENTUM RADIO, RIGHT NOW. THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY. BUT -- THE DATE -- DECEMBER 5? OKAY. LET'S GO FOR DECEMBER 5. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION AND A SECOND. COUNCILMAN MIRANDA. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MR. CHAIRMAN, I WANT TO MAKE SURE. THIS IS ABOUT THE BIG SIGNS YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT? >>GWEN HENDERSON: I AM NOT TALKING OF TIMES SQUARE, BUT BIG SIGNS. I AM TALKING OF BIG SIGNS. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THE CORN IS CORRECT. IT TOOK A YEAR OR MORE. WE PROBABLY SETTLED FOUR FOR ONE, TAKE FOUR OF THE WOODEN ONE YOU GET ONE OF THE BLINKER, EXPENSIVE ONES THAT CHANGE EVERY 20 SECONDS. THAT IS HOW IT WAS THEN. I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS NOW. I WOULD IMAGINE THE SAME ORDINANCE IN THE BOOKS NOW. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND WAS CLENDENIN. >>GWEN HENDERSON: AN OPPORTUNITY TO -- >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AM JUST SAYING IT TOOK A LONG TIME. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I AM KIND OF FAMILIAR WELL THIS CONCEPT AND PART IS REVENUE ENHANCEMENT. OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITY LIKE GARAGES TO DO SOME ART INSTALLATION ALONG WITH ADVERTISING. I THINK AT LEAST IT IS WORTH HAVING THE DISCUSSION. WHERE IT LANDS, I DON'T KNOW WHERE IT IS. I I AGREE HE WITH COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON. IT IS WORTH HAVING THE CONVERSATION. DECEMBER 5 IS A WIDE-OPEN DATE. MISS FEELEY DOES THAT GIVE YOU ENOUGH TIME. >>ABBYE FEELEY: DECEMBER 5 WILL BE FAR MORE PALATABLE, THANK YOU. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES. >>BILL CARLSON: WE CAN TALK ABOUT THE CONCEPT WHEN IT COMES UP. BUT MOST CITIES NOW HAVE IN THEIR DOWNTOWN AREA SOME LIGHTED AREA, LIKE, YOU MENTIONED ONE, BUT PICADILLY CIRCUS. ALMOST EVERY CITY HAS ONE. AND THERE IS MUCH FOR ENTERTAINMENT AND -- AND PLACEMAKING AS THEY ARE -- BECAUSE YOU SHOW -- LIKE THIS IS THE -- THIS IS THE CENTER OR A COMMUNITY CENTER OF DOWNTOWN. SO IT IS NOT JUST PUTTING UP A POLE WITH LIGHTED SIGNS. IT IS ACTUALLY PLACEMAKING. SO WE WILL TALK ABOUT IT. >>GWEN HENDERSON: NOT EXACTLY LIKE TIMES SQUARE. NOT LIGHT IT UP LIKE THAT. DOWNTOWN IS A GREAT DESTINATION PLACE FOR US. WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO BE -- TO REDEVELOP AND FIND WAYS TO ENHANCE IT. AND THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADJUST THE CODE OF LARGE FORMAT. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. OPPOSED? ANYTHING ELSE? >>GWEN HENDERSON: THAT'S IT. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR? >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I DO. MISS FEELEY -- IF SHE IS HANGING OUT. BE THIS IS DIRECTED TO HER. I MOTION THAT STAFF PROVIDE A WRITTEN REPORT ON EMERGENCY RULES THAT WILL FACILITATE THE REPAIR AND CONSTRUCTION OF NONCONFORMING LOTS PAYMENT PACTED BY THE NATURAL DISASTER. A FULL SCHEDULE AND ASKING FOR A WRITTEN REPORT. I KNOW THIS IS THE BEGINNING OF A CONVERSATION ON OCTOBER 17. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT IS TWO WEEKS. YOU ARE LOOKING AT NOVEMBER 5. >>ABBYE FEELEY: THAT IS TOMORROW. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I -- MISS FEELEY, ARE YOU GUYS ALREADY LOOKING AT THIS? >>ABBYE FEELEY: IN TERMS OF NONCONFORMING LOTS? >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YEAH -- >>ABBYE FEELEY: STRUCTURES THAT HAVE BEEN DESTROYED IN EXCESS OF A CERTAIN AMOUNT? >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHEN PEOPLE HAVE TO DO SUBSTANTIVE REPAIRS AND BE ABLE TO BUILD ON SETBACKS AND -- SO LET'S -- LET'S SAY NOVEMBER 7. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT IS GOOD. A MOTION AND A SECOND. SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE -- WAIT -- >>LYNN HURTAK: I AM GOING TO SAY THAT MAYBE YOU SHOULD REACH OUT AND TALK TO MISS FEELEY BEFOREHAND -- NOT BEFORE BUT DURING TO MAKE SURE WE ARE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I AM HAPPY TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION, BUT I DISASTER. I HAVE JUST BEEN HEARING CONCERNS. MAYBE THERE IS NOTHING THERE. MAYBE SOMETHING THERE. THAT IS WHY I ASKED FOR A WRITTEN REPORT TOO. >>LYNN HURTAK: AGAIN, THAT IS KIND OF WHY WE NEED TO HAVE A -- A WORKSHOP ON THIS INSTEAD OF PIECEMEAL IT, KIND OF LOOK AT IT ALL TOGETHER. BECAUSE THERE ARE MANY THINGS THAT GO ABELONGING WITH THIS, BECAUSE THERE IS FEMA REGULATIONS. THERE IS INSURANCE REGULATIONS. THERE IS SO MUCH TIED TO -- BECAUSE MISS FEELEY AND I -- WE WERE SUPPOSED TO HAVE A 30-MINUTE MEETING AND ENDED UP WITH AN HOUR-LONG MEETING BECAUSE WE GOT INTO THESE IDEAS. I ENCOURAGE YOU TO TALK TO HER ABOUT IT. AND TALK TO HER ABOUT WHERE WE CAN -- I THINK WE SHOULD COME BACK NEXT THURSDAY EVENING WITH A TIME AND TOPICS FOR THIS. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE SAKE SAYING. MY THING IS -- I THINK THE CITY WISELY -- WHEN THEY WAIVED -- MISS FEELEY, IF YOU ARE A PART OF THAT WAIVING PERMIT KNEES. WE ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF A DISASTER. LONG-RANGE STRATEGIC PLANNING AND LESSONS LEARNED. BUT THIS IS SHORT-TERM. REALLY SHORT-TERM. >>LYNN HURTAK: EMERGENCY REPAIR AND REBUILDING. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: EMERGENCY RULES. >>LYNN HURTAK: BUT, AGAIN, EMERGENCY RULES STILL HAVE TO APPROVE WITH FEMA. THEY STILL HAVE TO BE APPROVED BY INSURANCE COMPANIES. SO THERE IS A HUGE AMOUNT OF CONVERSATION THAT GOES ALONG WITH THIS. I SAW POSTED ON SOCIAL MEDIA FROM SOMEONE BE IN FORT MYERS WHO SAID THAT THEY DID THIS. AND NOW FEMA IS NOT PAYING FOR THINGS BECAUSE IT WASN'T DONE CORRECTLY. AND IT -- IT IS SERIOUS. SOME THAT'S WHY I AM SAYING IT IS PART OF A MUCH LARGER DISCUSSION. I DON'T DISAGREE THAT WE NEED TO GET IT DONE. I DON'T KNOW THAT NOVEMBER 7 IS THE TIME -- I THINK -- I THINK WE NEED A LARGER, BROADER DISCUSSION FOCUSSED ON ALL OF THESE THINGS. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: LET ME REREAD WHAT I SAID BECAUSE I DON'T THINK IT IS CONTRARY TO WHAT YOU SAID. MOTION FOR STAFF TO PROVIDE A WRITTEN REPORT OF POTENTIAL EMERGENCY RULES THAT WILL FACILITATE THE RESTORATION AND REPAIRS ON STRUCTURES ON PRESENTLY NONCONFORMING LOTS AFFECTED BY THE DISASTER. I DON'T THINK THAT IS CONTRADICTORY. HAVING THEM GOING BACK AND LOOK AT IT THE AND MAYBE THEY WILL COME BACK WITH EXACTLY WHAT YOU SAID. AS SUBJECT MATTERICS PERTS, FELL IN COME BACK TO TELL US HERE IS THE X, Y, AND Z. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE WORD "POTENTIAL. ". >>LYNN HURTAK: IN BY THE OCTOBER -- >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SHE IS A SMART WOMAN. >>LYNN HURTAK: SHE IS DOING SIX PEOPLE'S JOBS. >>ABBYE FEELEY: MAY I ASK FOR -- JUST FOR IS A COUPLE OF ADDITIONAL WEEKS ON THAT. I WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR. IN FACT, WE JUST HAD A MEETING WITH FEMA AT 2:30. THIS IS A VERY FLUID ENVIRONMENT RIGHT NOW IN TRYING TO GET OUR HOMEOWNERS AND OUR RENTERS FIRST, YOU KNOW, STABLY HOUSED AND SECOND TO BE ABLE TO START APPLYING FOR FEMA. AND WHERE YOU SAY POTENTIAL EMERGENCY, I I DON'T KNOW THAT I HAVE TIME FOR POTENTIAL RIGHT NOW. I AM WORKING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE SETTING UP THESE POLICIES RIGHT NOW SO WHEN PEOPLE ARE WALKING IN TO THE POP-UP PERMIT CENTERS TODAY, THEY HAVE THAT ANSWER. SOME IF -- IF YOU -- >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I AM GOING TO GIVE YOU EXACTLY WHAT YOU JUST ASKED FOR ON NOVEMBER 21. >>ABBYE FEELEY: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION AND A SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANYTHING ELSE? >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT'S IT. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU. AND I HAVE ALREADY TALKED TO MISS FEELEY ABOUT THIS. I MOVE TO HAVE DEPUTY ADMINISTRATOR FEELEY INCLUDE IN HER DECEMBER 5, 2024 LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE UPDATE, THE TOP TEN WAIVERS THAT ARE GRANTED BY CITY COUNCIL. WE TALKED ABOUT THIS A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO AND SHE SAID SHE COULD HAVE THAT BY THE 5th OF DECEMBER. >>GWEN HENDERSON: SECOND. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. OPPOSED. >>LYNN HURTAK: THE ONLY OTHER THING. I ASKED FOR A WRITTEN REPORT ABOUT THE PARKING LOTS -- I AM GOING TO READ IT. THIS IN LIEU OF THE FIVE-ANYONE REPORT ON THE MONITORING OF PARKING YBOR CITY AND GETTING PARKING LOTS IN COMPLIANCE. I MOVE TO HAVE STAFF PROVIDE A WRITTEN REPORT ON OCTOBER 17 -- OH, MA MIGHT BE TOO -- YEAH, THAT MIGHT BE TOO -- HOW ABOUT NOVEMBER -- A WRITTEN REPORT ON NOVEMBER 7 ON WHERE THEY ARE IN THE PROCESS OF GETTING -- >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. SECONDED FROM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. OPPOSED? >>LYNN HURTAK: ONE MORE THING. WHEN WE COME BACK NEXT THURSDAY, I THINK WE ALL NEED TO COME WITH THE FOCUS AREAS WE WANT TO DISCUSS FOR THE HURRICANE. I THINK WE NEED TO COME UP WITH DATES. I PROMISE YOU I WILL BRING MY PHONE ON TO THE DAIS TO LOOK ON MY CALENDAR BECAUSE I NEVER HAVE IT. THIS IS VERY SERIOUS AND WE ALL SHOULD CONSIDER OTHER DAYS. I FEEL LIKE THIS WILL BE A DAY-LONG DISCUSSION. IT IS THE BEGINNING OF SOMETHING, BUT WE HAVE TO REALLY LOOK AT WHAT WICK -- WHAT WE CAN TO DO HARDEN OUR CITY. FINANCIAL IMPLICATIONS. SO MUCH. I KNOW WE ALREADY HAVE THE POSSIBILITY OF -- YEAH, ANYWAY. I WILL JUST LEAVE IT AT THAT. I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO SETTING THAT MEETING NEXT THURSDAY NIGHT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE SHOULD BRAINSTORM THE IDEA. I THINK US HAVING THE CONVERSATION IS US CHASING OUR TAIL BECAUSE SO MUCH OF THIS IS STAFF DRIVEN AND ADMINISTRATION DRIVEN. ALMOST HAVING LIKE A HURRICANE RETREAT WITH THE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS FROM STAFF TO SIT AROUND AND BRAINSTORM IDEAS I THINK WOULD BE APPROPRIATE. AND NOT NECESSARILY TIME CRITICAL BECAUSE STORMS AREN'T GOING AWAY. AS CHARLIE MIR ANDA SAID IT MAN TIMES WE HAVE AFFECTED THE CLIMATE. AND I THINK THAT IS A GOOD IDEA. >>LYNN HURTAK: I LIKE THAT OF INCLUDING STAFF. COME UP WITH YOUR LIST AND WE CAN ALL PUT A LIST IN TOGETHER. TRYING TO FIND A DATE IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING. YOU ARE RIGHT, MAYBE JANUARY, MAYBE AHEAD. BUT ALSO WHAT WE NEED TO DO IN THE SHORT TERM. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: LESSONS LEARNED. >>LYNN HURTAK: LESSONS LEARNED. I DON'T THINK THIS IS NOT THE TIME TO BE SUPER -- I MEAN -- EVERYONE WAS DOING THE BEST THEY COULD. NOT TIME TO BE SUPER CRITICAL. THIS IS A TIME TO SAY THIS DIDN'T WORK, I THINK WE SHOULD DO THIS INSTEAD. TO LISTEN TO OUR STAFF. I DIDN'T HAVE THIS PIECE OF EQUIPMENT. WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO WITH FINANCE. I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS AND THE PUBLIC SAYING WHAT THEM NEED. THIS WILL BE A FRUITFUL DISCUSSION WHEN WE HAVE IT. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU. ANYTHING ELSE? COUNCILMAN CARLSON? >>BILL CARLSON: YEAH, I -- AGREE THAT -- I AGREE THAT WE SHOULD HAVE AN OFF-SITE -- I AGREE WE SHOULD HAVE AN OFF-SITE DAY-LONG CONVERSATION OF HURRICANES. ONE OF THE THINGS HAS TO BE THAT -- WHAT IS THE ROLE OF COUNCIL. I HAD A LONG CONVERSATION WITH THE MAY I DON'T REMEMBER LAST NIGHT. WE HAD A PUBLIC DISCUSSION A COUPLE OF TIMES AFTER HURRICANES. BUT THE VERY LEAST, WHY DON'T OUR AIDES HAVE THE SAME INFORMATION THAT THE CALL CENTER HAS, I THINK THE ADMINISTRATION IS OPEN TO THAT. BUT RIGHT NOW THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT -- THAT NEED TO GET INFORMATION FROM US. AND WHEN I WORK ON RECOVERY PROJECTS FOR OTHER CLIENTS, WE WE GET A TALKING POINT THING. WE GIVE THEM FLYERS TO HAND OUT. TODAY AT MEETING, KATHY CASTOR WAS HANDING OUT FLYERS TO GIVE TO PEOPLE. WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO HAND TO PEOPLE. WHEN TALKING TO PEOPLE, WE NEED THAT. WHAT IS COUNCIL'S ROLE HAS TO BE A PART OF THAT. I THINK THAT -- I THINK THERE IS A SEPARATE CONVERSATION, THOUGH, ABOUT -- BEEN -- THERE IS A LOT WE MAY HAVE OTHER KINDS OF EQUIPMENT THAT ARE IMMUNE TO BE HURRICANES. AND STORM SURGES SHOULD BE IS ANTICIPATE RAT DISCUSSION AND COUNCIL DRIVEN AND NOT STAFF DRIVEN. I RAN INTO WIT, HE WILL BE WILLING TO BE PARTICIPATE. BUT I WOULD WELCOME A SEPARATE DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT. WE READ OF ALL THE SUBJECTS. I MAKE A MOTION FOR THE CITY COUNCIL TO DISCUSSION AS TO LOCK TERM SOLUTIONS OF FLOODING AND STORM SURGE OF THE JANUARY 30. PAST HURRICANE SEASON AND WE WILL HAVE THE DISCUSSION OTHER THAN THEM. >>LYNN HURTAK: WHY CAN'T -- WHY CAN'T WE JUST COMBINE IT TOGETHER. IF WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING -- OH, WE HAVE A BUNCH ON THAT DAY. >>BILL CARLSON: I THINK THERE IS THE KIND OF TACTICAL RESPONSE STUFF THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN. ONE OF THE BIG THINGS THAT HAPPENED ON THIS. NEVER HAVE A HUGE DISCUSSION. AND IT TOOK A COUPLE OF DAYS TO PIVOT IN DISCOVERY WE HAD A PROCESS IN A NORMAL HURRICANE THAT WORKS VERY WELL BUT WE NEEDED TO PIVOT. THE OTHER THING THAT DIDN'T PIVOT AS WELL, COMMUNICATING TO PEOPLE THAT THEIR HOUSE WERE GOING TO FLOOD. YOU DON'T WANT TO GO THROUGH THE DETAILS NOW, I CAN SHOW IT AT ONE OF THE MEETINGS. WE HAVE TO TALK OF COMMUNICATION. VERY CLEAR IF YOU AT THE TEXT MESSAGES, THE FACEBOOK PAGES POSTS, AND THE TWITTER POSTS. MENTION OF STORM SURGE, BUT THE MAIN FEEDBACK EVERYBODY GAVE US THEY HAD WE HAD NO IDEA IT WAS GOING TO BE LIKE THIS THEY CRY WOLF EVERY TIME WITH THE STORM SURGE. THOSE ARE THE MESSAGES -- I WON'T GO UP AND SHOW IT, BUT A MAP POSTED BY ANDY JOHNSON IF YOUR HOUSE IS IN YELLOW, IT IS GOING TO GET FLOODED. IT WAS KIND OF IN ONE COUNTY POSTS THAT THE CITY DID, THIS MAP SHOULD HAVE BEEN POSTED TO EVERY AND OVER AGAIN. SOMEBODY SHOULD HAVE DIGITALLY PROMOTED. AS SOON AS I REPOST IT -- ANDY JOHNSON IS A FORMER METEOROLOGIST. AS SOON AS I REPOST IT, THREE FRIENDS CALLED ME AND SAID I AM GETTING OUT OF TOWN. IF YOU KNEW THIS WAS GOING TO HAPPEN, YOU COULD GET YOUR TESLA OUT OF THE GARAGE -- TESLA IS ANOTHER THING WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT. I THINK WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW -- HOW WE CAN -- AND CONTINUE IS IT NOT BEING CRITICAL, BUT HOW WE WILL RESPOND TO SITUATIONS THAT ARE DIFFERENT THAN THE ONES WE EXPERIENCED BEFORE. HOW WE CAN COMMUNICATE TO THE PUBLIC EFFECTIVELY AND REALLY EXPECT WHAT IS HAPPENING. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN CARLSON, CAN I MAKE A SUGGESTION. MAY 25 -- SORRY, MAY 22, A CITY COUNCIL WORKSHOP AND NOTHING ON IT. IF WE ZACK COMPLETELY OUT AND CALLED THAT -- THAT COULD BE OUR HURRICANE WORKSHOP. >>LYNN HURTAK: MY CONCERN THEY ARE KNEE-DEEP IN BUDGET DISCUSSIONS FOR FY '26 ALREADY. I FEEL LIKE WHICH NEED TO HAVE THIS JANUARY AND FEBRUARY SO THEY ARE GOING INTO THE BUDGET CYCLE KNOWING WHAT WE WANT TO SEE. SO, AGAIN, I THINK THAT THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH HAVING A TUESDAY WORKSHOP ON THIS DURING THE DAY. >>BILL CARLSON: IT IS WORTH HAVING IT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU WANT TO SCHEDULE A SEPARATE SESSION. >>LYNN HURTAK: FEBRUARY IS FULL. MARCH DOESN'T HAVE ONE. APRIL IS OPEN, BUT, AGAIN, THAT'S -- >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LET'S THINK OF IT BETWEEN NOW AND THURSDAY. >>LYNN HURTAK: I THINK WE JUST DO THAT. I AGREE, I THINK WE ALL -- I THINK WE ARE ALL TALKING OF SPENDING A DAY. I MEAN -- >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A SEPARATE DAY, A NEW DAY. >>LYNN HURTAK: I THINK WE DO LIKE YOU SAID, LIKE A RETREAT. WE HAVE LUNCH. WE COME BACK -- >>GWEN HENDERSON: AT THE RIVER CENTER. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I HEAR THEY HAVE GOOD CATERING. CARLSO CANCER /*. >>BILL CARLSON: TWO LAST THINGS. WHEN PEOPLE THINK THEY FEEL LIKE WE ARE NOT HELPING THEM. THE MAYOR TOLD ME THAT MOST PEOPLE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHO WE ARE. IF WE CAN SHOW UP IN A COORDINATED WAY WE CAN COVER MORE TERRITORY AND NOT HAPHAZARD. COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, WE WEREN'T ALL ALLOWED TO SAY SOMETHING EARLIER. I AM PROUD. I WAS SEVEN WHEN YOU STARTED WORKING. AND I GREW UP -- LIKE GUIDO -- HE IS A LOT YOUNGER THAN ME. I GREW UP WATCHING YOU AND BOB MARTINEZ AND OTHERS AND SANDY FREEMAN. AND TO BE IN THE SAME ROOM WITH YOU ALL SOMETIMES -- I TOLD YOU THIS BEFORE -- SOMETIMES LOOKING ACROSS, I PINCH MYSELF THINKING, WOW, YOU KNOW, I AM SITTING AT THE SAME DAIS AS CHARLIE MIRANDA. AND I LIKE LEARNING FROM YOU. I LIKE YOUR -- INSIGHTS YOU HAVE. PEOPLE ASK ME HOW IS HE DOING. HIS HEALTH. I SAY AT 38 OR -- >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: 28. >>BILL CARLSON: BETTER HEALTH THAN ALL OF US. 3:00 IN THE MORNING YOU ARE PROBABLY THE SHARPEST ONCE UP HERE AND YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. EVERYTHING IS DELIBERATE. I DON'T ALWAYS AGREE YOU WITH. YOU DON'T ALWAYS AGREE WITH ME. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I DON'T ALWAYS AGREE WITH MYSELF. >>BILL CARLSON: FIVE YEARS I HAVE BEEN WRITING DOWN CHARLIEISMS LIKE THE ONE -- I WISH SOMEBODY -- WE COULD COLLECT THEM AND -- SOME OF THE THINGS YOU SAID ARE THE FUNNIEST -- 3:00 IN THE MORNING, NOTHING LIKE HEARING A CHARLIEISM. AN HONOR TO WORK YOU WITH. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I SAID I REALLY ENJOY WORKING WITH THIS COUNCIL. SO DIFFERENT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WANT TO SAY WHAT I SAID EARLIER. HE RUN ON A SLOGAN THAT CHARLIE CARES AND HE SHARES HOW HE CAME UP WITH THAT SLOGAN TODAY AND HE SHARED HE WAS NAKED IN THE SHOWER. AND I AM GOING TO FILE SOME KIND OF PAPER WORK IT GET REIMBURSED TO THE CITY FOR THE THERAPY REQUIRED TO GET THAT IMAGE OUT -- >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YOU ARE MAKING ASSUMPTION I WAS NAY KID IN THE SHOWER. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SHOWERED FULLY CLOSED. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE. A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA. SECONDED FROM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ALL RIGHT, WE ARE ADJOURNED.