hi Mike check here now we go yeah better good to go all right everybody thank you for coming tonight to the regular meeting of the Reno City Planning Commission today's date is Wednesday October 18th 2023 we will start off with the Pledge of Allegiance commissioner roer will you lead the way please Al to the flag all right moving on to item number two Michelle roll call please Harris Armstrong here Manny Basera here Arthur Munos here Carrie rer here Alex fto is absent Sylvia vinoa here JD dracul here we have a quorum thank you moving to item number three public comment this item is for either public comment on any action item or for any general public comment Michelle do we have any requests to speak forms for this voicemails people on Zoom okay let me read this into the record first m of the public may call into the meeting to provide public comment by using the zoom link provided on the agenda specifically https colon back links. reno.gov sl3q WN xbq it should be noted for those in the audience that comments are to be addressed to the Planning Commission as a whole comments heard under this item will be limited to 3 minutes per person and may pertain to matters both on and off the Planning Commission agenda please note that the Planning Commission may not take action upon any matters not agendized for possible action on today's agenda when you are called on for public comment please state your name for the record and begin speaking the timer will begin when you say your name and you will be a 4 to 3 minutes if you are an attendee in the zoom meeting and would like to make public comment at this time please raise your hand lastly while in the room please be respectful warnings will be issued by the presiding officer if there is disruptive behavior um and you will be asked to leave Chambers if the behavior continues with that we did receive um one voicemail we did not receive any correspondence uh request to speak forms or um public comment on this item but we will go into the um the voicemail and that was forwarded to the Planning Commission it was just general in nature yeah from I'm resident NADA live in Liberty Street myself notice a public notice now the date is passed to reading about it that uh some staff make some report to the Planning Commission I don't know what is exactly Planning Commission but my question is why they don't send anything by the mail I have a mailing address that they have public notice mail is for public too and I think anything the city must to this state is passed to I need to know and that is it for the voicemail thank you and anybody in the chambers wish to speak on General Public comment you may come up and fill out a form just notable if you do wish to speak tonight on a specific item we will get to that so if no one wants to speak on General Public comment seeing none we will close item three and move to item number four approval of minutes for possible action item 4.1 the Reno City Planning Commission regular meeting of August 8 16th uh chair I will actually have to abstain from this one as I was not in attendance for that meeting okay commissioner villan WEA motion to approve and we have a motion second motion a second motion a second all in favor of approving the minutes I I great those are approved item number 4.2 the Reno City Planning Commission regular meeting of September 6th arong I'll move to approve got a motion commissioner V Anda second Michelle did you have an issue oh I did commissioner AR you got a motion and a second I believe all in favor of approving the minutes I I any oppose seeing none minutes are approved closing item number four moving to item number five public hearings any person who has chosen to provide his or her public comment when a public hearing is heard will need to so indicate on the request to speak form provided to the secretary alternatively you may provide your comment when item three public comment is heard at the beginning of this meeting so we'll start off with item 5.1 which is case number lc24 D13 HT House special use permit extension and it looks like will we have a presentation from the applicant thank you feel free to State your names thank you hi it's elisberg um this is bring the mic up to your Justin BG sorry there so this is a existing project that got approved already but I was not able to complete the project due to some reason so I mean we can actually go to the last um slide if you guys like or do you want me to go over the project whatever you feel like um you have control of the slide at the podium there oh this one okay so I don't know if you guys are familiar with it but this location is on um on Dickerson road it's called um the hitch at Sierra Water Gardens so my main business is I do little like tiny weddings it's about 20 people so it's a very unique project um so um basically we like to create it like a little Event Center do the celebration and um it's basically going to be like a little tea house um our M Max Capacity going to be about 50 people I don't even participate having that many people at that location it is a mainly outdoor space so my businesses usually runs from uh Lally May to end of November so I have a really short amount of time to actually make some income um so that's the one of the reason that I wanted to come up with this idea and um you know create a little bit more Revenue um with I was not able to finish the project because unfortunately right after I get the approval Co hit so that was a very struggle for like me and a lot of small business owners and then um we had a really hard time finding General Contractors I'm actually still having a hard time I met with a couple of them so I'm waiting on a bit but I think it's usually Dy is a very small project for them which is a huge project for me um and then again it's mainly is outdoor place so the most of the stuff is going to be in outdoor so we had some crazy Winters and then right now everything is obviously is very expensive um so inflammation kind of affect my business as well like any other businesses but the scope of the project hasn't changed I'm not making any changes um I did receive a couple receiving a couple of the bits which it's recommended from the city as well and then I'm hoping to start the project in a month I am paying for everything um for improving the site and I don't own the property that was another challenge that I was kind of going through so that's something that I'm also working with my landlords as well okay that's it that's all right and we'll get a presentation from City staff and we'll be able to ask you some more questions if needed okay sounds good thank you thank you all right presentation from staff go for it uh good evening Planning Commission my name is Brooke Oswald I'm associate planner with the development services case before you tonight is uh a special use permit that that is a a term we use in our prior code uh that is now would be a conditional use permit that you're us seeing just for some of the that are new on on Council or sorry Planning Commission uh the original special use was uh permit was approved back in April of 2021 as a lot has happened kind of in this time and as we followed through this that uh a special use permit was required at that time for the residential adjacency uh to establish this outdoor Event Center in that uh approval there a number of conditions that really start to address those potential impacts could have on those surrounding projects they did come in for an Administration extension which is allowed by our code which gave them another 12 months that is expiring in October 21st just here in a few days and they're coming in uh for this request per renal Municipal Code uh for additional six months to their original approval date it does require that we go to a public hearing and that's why we're here tonight the project site is uh generally located on Dickerson road if you're familiar you can see the uh Warehouse buildings and train tracks in fourth to the north and to the South we have the the trucky beautiful trucky River and Ida wild park and you can see the residents uh are the smaller uh units just to the right of the yellow there uh staff uh is supportive of this request uh based on um what what they've been working through to do this and I will leave you with this motion and recommend approval thank you thank you br appreciate it all right we will now go to the Commissioners for disclosures commissioner RM will you start us off please I'm familiar with the site same I'm familiar with the site commissioner Armstrong same disclosures uh commissioner minus I am familiar with the project and I believe I'm the only one that was here when they brought this forward so I'm look forward to discussion on this commissioner villanua I visited the site um very familiar with it commissioner Dracula familiar with the site and actually commiss mun know I think it was my second meeting yeah right into it so all right right on um we'll now open it up to public comment Michelle do we have any request to speak forms on this item I did not receive any request to speak forms no correspondence and no voice bills okay thank you anybody in the chambers wish to speak on item 5.1 seeing none we will close public comment and give it to the Commissioners for questions uh the staff or applicant or discussion a sorry commissioner M I don't have any questions um I do remember this came through and uh specifically I remember the residents and the businesses around the area being in favor of this um there was no concerns from the commission at that time um and for me I don't feel there's any any anything has changed and I think it's uh a great um addition to really upgrading that street in that area so I uh look forward to giving a yes on this project if it goes through looks like we made it into discussion oh commissioner villain away please question for staff hi Brook if we give this extension and they don't make it you know they're unable for whatever reason um and they need another extension uh what happens at that point do they need to go through the same process they have exhausted at this point their ability for that extension so it would take that reapplication and going through that process so as I understand the six months really is there's some building permits that uh per their conditions that they need to clear up so this sort of gives them the time to finish that up and and I think they're moving forward to get that done as you heard okay great thank you commissioner Villa just to clarify under our code if they were not able to essentially perfect the permit within six months they would have to wait a minimum of one year before they could reapply for the same use thank you no further questions okay awesome commissioner baser please sure I just want to Echo commissioner mun's sentiment I think it's a great project it's uh it's actually something that I appreciate um youall doing over on Dickerson road I guess I would only extend a Bit of Faith or hope that you're able to get it to the finish line and see your dream your dream through so I'll I'll be approving it as well uh commissioner AR ready to make a motion please uh in case lc2400 one3 HT House special use perit extension based on compliance with applicable findings I move to approve the request for an extension of the special use permit uh sldd c2070 subject to the original conditions of approval we have a motion commissioner R second all right we have a motion in a second any further discussion seeing none we'll go for a vote all in favor I I any opposed seeing none all right congrats your extensions approved thank you all right we will now move on to item 5.2 to case number LDC 2412 that's all I got there and looks like we have the applicant Andy derling from wood Rogers it's gonna give us presentation thank you Mr chairman Commissioners for the record Andy derling with wood Rogers uh representing the applicant uh what we have before you tonight is a tentative map extension uh for the remaining lots of uh what was the village 4 and Club Cottages tentative map uh associated with ranchera so just kind of giving you a little bit of way finding here this is the ranch AA master plan um village four is in the brown can't oh you're pointing to it I thought it was on the overhead sorry uh Village four here uh in the brown uh just behind the Event Center The Event Center is the new club at Rancher it's the repurposed uh former Mansion uh of ranchera and so the um village 4 was perfected the final map was recorded in uh 2021 um and so that started the clock on the the subsequent which is the remaining eight lots that are located in the event center here um next image this was the original tentative map it contained 66 units on the west side in Village 4 and then the eight um units over here for a total of of 74 um so these are eight duet style um two-story Town Homes essentially um they were intended to be sort of like a um a little bit of experiment um to see what may work kind of at in this this kind of Club Cottage uh Resort living right in in front of the the Mansion there the mansion's only been operating as a club for a few years and they're still trying to really um you know kind of figure out um all of that and want to um use the additional two years to uh make sure the market conditions are correct and and and appropriate for this type of use so asking for the additional two years um just as a matter of uh kind of edification so tentative Maps um the first final map has to be approved Within um four years from the approval of the tentative map so this overall tentative map was approved in 2019 it actually wouldn't expire until this year but because they recorded that first final map early it actually condenses the time frame so we're still um you know in a reasonable time frame for the for the life of this tenative map uh and respectfully request Planning Commission approve an additional two-year extension so with that I'd be happy to answer any questions thanks thank you and we'll get a presentation from the city looks like Brooke again evening Planning Commission uh for the record brook Oswald associate planner uh Andy sort of went through the the nuts and bolts in this and so I'll keep it my pres uh presentation fairly quick uh just looking at the project site once again we're looking at 74 units that were originally approved I was the Planner on this and and ran the plan the tentative map through so very familiar with the project um the buildings are currently if you've been out there visited the site the buildings on that have been final mapped are currently under construction and that um just above the uh clubhouse there is being um constructed the yellow site here is the additional eight units that were approved back at that time that we're here for tonight um they did file their tentative map and as Andy mentioned that tenative map they have four years but once they file that they have two years for sequential parcel maps and or Final maps and so that's why we've they've shortened their time period period and they've come to ask for a 2-year extension that is allowed uh per NRS this um and and I'll leave you with a motion um based on uh our staff's recommendation to uh continue and and allow this extension thank you thank you br appreciate it we'll go to the Commissioners for disclosures commissioner Villa will you start us off please commissioner Villa familiar with the site also receiv received emails uh three or four emails that I reviewed uh commissioner mon same disclosures commission arong I'm familiar with the site and I read and received emails commissioner rera same disclosures as commissioner munis and Villa commissioner rer same disclosures commissioner Dracula same disclosures okay we will now open it up to public comment we do have some requests to speak forms um Glenn Gray wishes to speak in opposition if You' like to come up and speak and after Glenn will be Christine good evening uh my name is Glenn Gray I live at 7:30 caner way in ranchera um Commissioners um there are many of us in this community that have just found out about these Condominiums being built on the front lawn of the historic Bill Hera's mansion and we are concerned and and distressed about it uh this was not disclosed in any of the literature any of the websites anything where we bought into ranchera when we did there is nothing that showed that there were going to be condominiums on the front lawn of the Mansion I sent you a uh uh some words that I spoke at the city council meeting before and it was concern concerned about the density and the traffic problem we're having in ranchera if right now at this point in time nothing changes the current zoning and development will add 510 more cars to ranchera that's based on two cars per resident we already have huge traffic problems we anything we need a new traffic study before anything's approved anywhere in ranchera it's a nightmare right now try and make a leftand turn out of tbit between three and 5 you'll wait three light cycles just to get out the traffic backing up on the kitsy gate is goes through the roundabout all the way out people we're in trouble now let alone more density the de developers executive summary refers to building Club Cottages in front of the bill Hera Mansion what do you think a Club Cottage is imagine a cottage a small little structure maybe tiny with maybe white that's not what we're getting here we're getting Condominiums two-story condominiums in the front lawn of Bill Harris Mansion of our clubhouse we don't want that nobody nobody wants that except the devel of course these four multi-story they call them duet buildings massive condominium structures we're concerned that the developers once again attempted to do as they please without regard to the members of the community that live there their only concern is how much money they can make regardless of the effect on us the residents and by the way their prior customers traffic property values Open Spaces Public Safety are the last of their concerns we want you to make it your first concern Common Sense suggests that nothing should be built on the front lawn of Bill hara's mansion and our econic ranchera clubhouse we as a community invested in ranchera expecting our clubhouse asset to be accessible safe and its beautiful view unencumbered by ill-placed Massive Condominiums and Mr Gray your three minutes are up I apologize sir thank you all right next to speak is Christine speed she wishes to speak in opposition and after Christine speed is Walter Rondon good evening um another uh opportunity for ranchera could you br the microphone down to here and then state your name for the record please thank you Christine speed that's better another opportunity for ranchera to engage in uh its civic duty to appear at City Hall I am going to be a no I know I not haven't been asked but I am a no on the entire proposition for uh the request for a twoyear Time extension because I'm actually against the entire proposition that more three story duet Villa should be built anywhere on Ranch Shera I'd like to call your attention to the fact that there is a mish mash of land designations on that front lawn uh ranchera holding submits maps to you and calls the entire East part of the Mansion SMU well the ranchera Pud of 2018 calls that green area and pond part of Rancher is required 40 acres of open space and here's a little pet peeve the city seems to confine its evaluation of projects only to the more generic reimagined Reno master plan but what about the more specific ranchera planed unit development handbook the ranchera Pud represents the design standards that that should guide the development in ranchera and that development is supposed to build on equestrian history of the ranch no just twostory farmhouses and the current idea of these three-story Duets like the current Villas are totally inconsistent with it I used to call that Newport Beach in the mountains the entire lawn and Pond East of the Mansion are supposed to be an open landscape and be a buffer to the developed Village just below with only temporary structures allowed and that is according to the ranchera Pud the cute little yellow dense area on the map that you got will be Urban three-story Villas and they are on the banks of a flood zone and then that cute little dense area doesn't show the roads that we'll have to lead there and they'll be coming right across the the mansion and we'll have all those trips and we'll have all the garbage trucks trundling in front of the Mansion Just ruining the clubhouse so um the Pud states that 30% 30% of Rancher land will be open space and um I just want to know what is it is that open space described in the Rancher PUD or is it SMU submitted to you by wood Rogers this project will not contribute to the welfare of ranchera community as ranchera Holdings is committed to do and it will degrade the Mansion the club unfairly swallow up our Green Space and degrade the property values of every homeowner at ranchera this when you used to approve this in 2017 a bunch of just construction dirt that doesn't exist anymore we have a whole bunch of people who have invested a lot of money in these houses and we don't want our property values devalued by this this crazy construction so thank you very much for listening thank you appreciate your comments next up is Walter Ron yes wants to speak in opposition you have three minutes sir thank you thank you good evening Commissioners I'm here as an outraged homeowner and resident and member of the ranchera club I I believe that people who have purchased properties in the ranch development are in the position of the proverbial frog that's in the pot you don't throw them into the boiling water you put them in the pot everything's fine and then you're slowly turn up the heat we have had a series of incidents where the rug has been pulled out of us the rug being what we were represented to would be what we were buying we were going to have a equin based western style development uh as the commission knows the equestrian center is on the way out that was a vital piece of why my wife and I and by the way I'm sorry I and my wife Stephanie reside at 725 marwood Trail love our house and but loved the original concept of ranchera which evidently was not the concept of the developers right now if you drive down the kitsy Gateway driveway into the into the development there are little promotional placards that show the uh it in you know encouraging people to buy this is a great place to live style this that and it has a picture of the clubhouse with a magnificent lawn in front of it and on the east side where this project is supposed to go do they show a a a row of Condominiums no they have a nice line of green trees and a big expansive lawn which is what I thought I was buying into and my wife thought she was buying into I'm here to voice my outrage and to oppose this project or facilitating further development at any at any way I can I don't know if stopping this extension will do anything to stop that development I have a feeling we're at the mercy of the developers but I really believe that the Aesthetics of this are very important in that I think if they start a construction there now to keep within the timeline they would lose a lot of buyers as they drive in that front gate they'd see this these condos going up and they'd go what I don't need that in front of my Clubhouse and that's how I feel and my wife feels and I urge you do whatever you can to stop any further development at ranchera enough is enough thank you very much thank you thank you we had um some people registered to speak on Zoom we have Audrey Keller please go ahead hello hear us Audrey Keller 720 Maywood Trail ranchera resident um you know that I I feel the same way this you should carefully consider and vote no on this proposal and what they don't show in these Maps is the beautiful there's um from the lake ditch irrigation water comes down that line and exactly where they want to build is where there's a beautiful um waterfall the sound of moving water the plantings are gorgeous it's lovely they're beautiful trees and they the developer just built a wedding area right on the lake some of you may have visited some of you may know exactly where that is according to this map they're going to wipe that out which means they're going to wipe out the parking that that is adjacent to the club and adjacent to the swimming pool my grandkids come to that pool my grandkids come to summer camp and they're talking about adding more housing taking away the driveway access and reducing the number of parking spots that is not safe that's not good for pedestrians and that's not good for bicyclists at all and I'd like you to carefully consider it as one of your options to vote no for that reason but but the open space reason is Mission critical as far as I'm concerned and they should not they the developers at the time probably nobody realized what it was going to look like how it was going to feel but it is drop dead gorgeous and I'm sure some of you would agree drop dead gorgees that beautiful front lawn and we should not be polluting it with eight more buildings for 16 more homes and by the way one of the uh staff uh reports talked about the market conditions and the um Vitality of the current projects the market conditions are that those projects aren't selling so why should you extend something where they're building another 60 uh 58 and they're not selling so why would you extend another two years and add more to things that are not selling so I'm going to ask you to carefully uh and respectfully say no to this developer and their extension thank you very much thank you one more on Zoom oh sorry nobody else is raising their hand so I don't see anybody else so are you're looking on there see if anybody else in the chambers would like to speak on this item if you have not yet given a request to speak form seeing none in the room go back to the zoom any other hands no okay we will close public comment on this item and open it up to the commissioner for questions of the applicant or staff commissioner B please uh question for I guess either the applicant or our own staff um you the the residents do raise a lot of good concerns um if market conditions don't warrant development or haven't and they continue not to 6 months from now 12 months from now um what what is the plan is it to to not develop is it to pursue still something else so you know when this tener map was approved in 2019 mind you um so this tener map was approved you know four years ago um market conditions were very different right the housing market was very hot uh interest rates were 2 and a half 3% um so it was a very different climate um the first final map was approved in 2021 two years after the approval of tenative map that's you know they took a year or so to kind of um design because it's condominium um so it requires um or I should say that phase is more of a condominium project um in Village 4 where it's stacked Flats um so that takes a little bit more design you have to kind of have full architecture U before you can move forward with the final map because your map in the airspace getting a little inside baseball here but it it the mapping process for that takes a little longer uh in general it's about a year to process the final map so two years process the first final map is not unreasonable now fast forward they've waited you know another two years you know um since then um you know last year obviously interest rates have continued to um escalate um the housing market has cooled significantly over that time and so there's not an impetus to move forward right now but there may be in the next two years and so we want to preserve that right to be able to move forward with the additional eight Lots we're only talking about eight units so four buildings they're Duets so it's kind of split they share a single wall down the middle um these are not on this side these were not proposed as a three-story town homes or the three-story Condominiums they're more of a two-story town home um and so they wanted to preserve that right in order to see if market conditions kind of correct themselves hopefully interest rates stabilize here in the next you know year or so um and they would be able to move forward great thank you and a followup on that what kind of community engagement has been done by um the the project developer or and I'm asking this because it sounds like there is a a bit of Disconnect uh from what we heard sure so um with this tenative Mac extension I admittedly we didn't we didn't do any uh Outreach with this this is a map again that was approved in 2019 um at that time there was a lot of uh Community engagement it um most of the interested parties didn't live there at that time their homes weren't built yet um and so we were engaged with some of the adjacent Property Owners to the south of us that are actually outside of ranchera um so we work extensively at that time with uh with the residents that were actually living there at that time uh but no with this extension it's it's it's an approved project essentially we're looking for a little bit of extended time to be able to um you know get it make it to come to fruition and just by you know by way of comparison right I I I said in my statement you know to begin with the way that um Nevada state law works you have four years to record record the first map so had they used the entire four-year period we would be in 2023 recording the first map and they'd have until 2025 to record the Sub sub subsequent map because of the odity in in state law once they record that first final map it really condenses their time frame so we're not talking about you know we're not really outside of uh an unreasonable time frame uh for for this existing tenative map and you know request obviously that we we get that additional two years to to see if we can make a c for Russ great thank you I'm going to take a step back for my fellow Commissioners any other questions Commissioners do we want to move into discussion commissioner Qui question uh commissioner M for the record brook this is going to be for you um does there need to be any um let me rephrase it what is the notification process for an extension like this sure uh so as we have things come in now we uh are now providing a courtesy notice that's not required by RMC but a courtesy notice goes out and then prior to this hearing um you have the site will be posted 10 days prior and then uh residents Within 750 ft will receive a card in the mail that notifies them of uh this request for the extension additionally we did have NAB 2 last night this was scheduled for NAB 2 it was canceled and so there would have been that additional process but that was canceled that was scheduled for last night last night yes okay okay thank you um Andy quick question for you um what was the uh was any attempt made whatsoever to reach out to the residents um prior to this extension request with this extension no okay no there there was extension as I as I mentioned to um commissioner Biser there was extensive Outreach um in 2019 uh when the original map was was proposed um this being an extension it's it's it's already An approved project we're moving yes I totally understand that how many people how many residents would this affect now not not in 2019 in 2023 how many residents does this directly affect there's not many that live within close proximity um within the 750 foot range I don't know what the noticing amount was but you know obviously there we've approved um I know Michelle if you wouldn't mind bringing up that um the master plan map for for ranchera that I had sent yeah one second point at a picture might be uh the other one so just a a little bit of History um ranchera was originally approved in its current form in 2014 um we did a a fairly um substantial amendment in 2018 um at that and then in kind of that time period um the first maps that were approved were Villages one two and three which are these over here uh we then did Village five and Village six um so Village six is is a is a kind of smaller lot patio home um and then we did the Estates residential nine Lots on the on the other side of um Evans Creek and then Village 4 um and the the club Cottages so the club Cottages are way down here uh on the very southern boundary of the of the ranch um the rosers who live on uh delman were are very interested at that time we work very closely with them um so the notification boundary I would anticipate you know it obviously includes a lot of unincorporated County Land to the south of us and probably skirts uh up into Village five and Village six as well as obviously Village 4 would be noticed as well okay and then it what what isn't built out right now so I I'm I'm looking at Google Earth and and it's it's a the picture is a couple years old sure so I don't have exactly what's built what is built out now yep so Village six uh we did in two phases 6A and 6B so I think 6B I think they're still building homes in 6A 6B is um still also under construction Village 7 has not been proposed with anything yet um so that is actually it's referred to in the handbook as Urban residential it's the highest Den density um that was assumed in in the handbook um overall ranchera um is allowed to have 722 homes um it's gone quite a bit less dense than what is approved um these Lots over here um or far larger than we could have done uh in the handbook all told um you know depending on what Village 7 comes out as uh it's probably in like the 500 range so we'll be you know probably 200 150 to 200 Lots shy of the maximum um so all the improvements were based on the 722 um lots that were originally approved in the master plan Community um so the traffic studies and and um you know infrastructure underground infrastructure water sewer everything like that was based on the the maximum and it's looking like it's going to come in quite a bit under that okay and then last last question what is the area that's proposed for the extension tonight what is that zoned as it is in the handbook it's zoned as Event Center it is master planned in reimagine Reno as suburban mixed juice yep so that's the master plan that's not the zoning uh the zoning which is the Pud identified as as Event Center and it has a mix of uses so it is allowed to have um one dwelling un per acre so we're actually allowed to have 12 um dwelling units in that area um we only proposed eight okay thank you nothing commissioner villan NOA please um question for staff hi Brook um does uh does Reno municipal code require any specific findings for Grant and extension of time there are no specific findings required for this extension of time okay and so when does the NRS make any requirements for us to consider uh what it does is it allows it allows it to happen and it requires a public hearing right so that it's publicly notice it's publicly it goes through this process but as far as a finding a lot of those findings of the impacts of this uh development were were um went through that tentative map and so there was an extensive review at that time of the allowability of these units the density of these units and that and so that is really when we saw the findings being made tonight really is a decision if that extension of that two years is appropriate and so have we seen any final we've seen what I heard from the applicant was we we've seen Final maps we have we have a final map that is I think it's 17 units total they're only they they've final mapped everything except the remaining eight okay so I'm looking at NRS 27836 it says if the subdivider is presenting in a timely manner a series of Final maps which I just understand that that happened each covering a portion of the proed ten tenative map then no other requirements are imposed correct so it truly is there's really not much we can do do I mean we have seen a series of they have through their their process moved through this process diligently and that you know the majority of this has been final mapped they they held these eight units out they are now at this time um looking to extend that time to make sure they have the the time to design and develop and and obviously as we spoke the market conditions are obviously one of the things they're looking at right now um but other than that there there really isn't it's it's if it's deemed appropriate the the conditioning and everything has already been done on that okay uh by or chair may I ask a question on the applicant of course please what was anything here any of the maps provided was any of that recorded publicly with the Clerk Recorder at any point on Deeds or the final map for Village 4 yes was recorded that's a recorded document and what about the other information was any of that available when this PUD is a recorded document so this this P the plan unit development is a recorded document so that would show up on title for every sale okay um so this map is on there um so when when the tentative map itself is not a recorded document but the Final maps are okay I guess what I'm trying to get at is if I were to be interested in purchasing a home in 2019 2020 would I have been able to see that there was potential for development there I I don't know I don't know what was in the disclosure documents um they would typically disclose um surrounding zoning that's usually a a requirement from Division of Real Estate um so this would this exhibit here uh would H would have been I would anticipate have been shown um I'm speaking a little bit from speculation because I don't know what all was included in closing documents but there was a disclosure that's required um for obviously approved projects that are in there okay Brook it looked like you were going to say something just quickly um wanted to speak to the tenant M our process once we go through that process um we go through a a cell system which is a cell one which is spark SPO County in the City of Reno so any of those applications are available through the public through that it is an outward transparency uh facing of those documents so that tenative map that process that approval um and and the the hearings and outcomes and all of that would have been is available through that ael1 to the public so that tenative map is not necessarily recorded through the county but it is available um online so if I wanted to conduct due diligence to see where I was purchasing my home and what could potentially be developed around me I would have been able to find that information yeah it obviously it's you you knowing the cases and working through some of that but there yes that is available okay thank you thank you I have a question commissioner please good uh I have a question for staff and looking at the aerial view sort of eyeballing distance I don't see um 35 potential neighboring the minimum in the 750 ft radius can you explain to me the methodology and who might have received to try to reach that 35 noticing minimum sure they would have uh if we do not and what she's speaking to is that we require a minimum of 35 people to be noticed in that 750 so if that or or total so if that is not met we continue to expand that circle out until we hit that 35 so I don't know it may have been over um 750 I don't know the the exact noticing rate is at this time but um the required per RMC were were noticed on this would that be a subjective process perhaps I what they would probably do is take the project site and continue to uh expand a circle so it would be you know evenly distributed of how they would do that okay I just am noticing um I'm wondering if more commercial properties may have been noticed in this case uh they they may have we have the the commercial center that that sits just to the east of this site uh the owners of that would have been notified um as Andy mentioned we have a number of of County residents and Rural residents that are large Lots so it probably could have hit a number of those and then as we are seeing some of that density increase um we homes are being built some of them are not occupied at that time through that area um but then we have some of those larger lots too and those through the noticing uh it may have um noticed also some of those thank you good Mike did you want to be comment for the record mik re planning manager um commissioner rire just to also clarify the map that you're looking there at on the screen is the land use plan from the P handbook so that doesn't reflect any lots that have been recorded or houses that were built subsequently to that document being adopted any further question from the Commissioners commissioner berer please sure my my my Spidey Sense is going off on this one um I I I understand that uh through commissioner vill noa's uh line of questioning seems like things are fine but I think it's how we do things and in this case the lack of Engagement with the residents by your own admission um since 2019 and I have concern that last night's NAB meeting was cancelled for whatever reason it could could have just been uh for a number of reasons I don't feel comfortable approving this myself without having given residents or the the impacted Community the opportunity to have the type of Engagement that they rightfully deserve my my question to Brooke or Mr rley or Mr Hall is would it be appropriate because I also don't want to stall something that is appropriate for development uh but it's how we do things would it be appropriate to continue this matter prior to the November meeting in order for there to be a nav meeting or further engagement with residents um or is that a moot point [Music] if you wanted to move to continue it you could continue it thanks Mr Hall yeah if I may commissioner B to your point because what we're really deciding on as an extension I I guess I understand there may be some mishaps on communication about the item that was coming to our body tonight it's really an extension of an approved project so I'm not sure Contin continuing it or even having more notice or more meeting would really change what I believe the public commenters are stating which is they don't want the project to happen at all but it's an approved project um so I understand that there's probably going to be more when it comes to the design and other you know features of their um you know their buildout over the coming years they hopefully will you know take heed of having more notice being more open to what's coming in front of them but for me tonight I'm in support of the extension because that's really just what's in front of us now um outside of maybe any you know lack of communication we're really just looking at extension great thanks chair uh may I follow up with you on this one please and perhaps to the rest of the commission if we do not approve this extension what happens once again Mike reallyy for the record um if if the extension was not approved the map I believe is set to expire in November of this year um the applicant would then have to reapply for attentive map those lots great thank you and actually that underscores my point because while I understand your point chair if we did not approve this this would demand that the applicant go through the process and actually engage with its residents and so whether we approve this tonight or not it seems like there's been a a bit of trust that's been compromised between the developer and and its residents current and Prospect so I would just underscore if this moves forward tonight um that the applicant re-evaluate how it's actually engaging with its residents current and future would the applicant like to respond to that um Andy derling for the record yeah commissioner this was a project that was approved in 2019 right prior to many of these people even living in this neighborhood so to relitigate it and go backwards and and want to because they've taken their their statuto allowed time to file Final maps and to make them go back through a process because they've sold homes elsewhere in the in the development seems a little like we're going back in time right this has already been litigated this this this project was already vetted by the Planning Commission in 2019 was found to be appropriate it was found to be appropriate in the context of a master plan Community okay and so with obviously with new residents coming in they've got concerns about other things that may or may not be related to this that that come into to play so this seems like a relitigate of something that has been approved um and and to commissioner dracul's point right this is this is an extension of time this is not looking as commissioner villan NOA said looking back through the findings to reanalyze this it's been analyzed it's been approved we're looking for a couple more years in order to finish the last eight Lots okay then thank you for that my follow-up question if you'd like to stay for a second please is what's going to change in the methodology with how y'all engage with residents for how things are going to move forward um put my my historian hat back on i' I've been involved with ranchera since 2011 uh in 2011 I worked for John Hera um to do the first kind of um ideas associated with it um really included more commercial uses at that time and not the residential in 2014 he looked to sell the entire Ranch in 2014 when we did this original master plan Community we had more Outreach than I have ever done on any land development project in my career we um hosted multiple meetings at the the ranch with hundreds of people and took them on driving tours of the entire Ranch to show them what was coming um looking forward we've tried to we've been trying to just Implement that Vision we've been trying to implement um the things that we're allowed to do in that handbook that we have been very explicit about over the years um so to continue to like reach out and say hey is this still good it's been deemed good it's been deemed something that it's approved handbook that we've been moving forward with so I'm struggling a little bit because it's it's kind of something that we've been sort of marching through the process um to to ultimately we had a vision in the in the the Planning Development that that shown on the screen we we provide we go through the tentative map process which then further specifies what we're doing and then ultimately the final map process is an administrative process that is the legal recording of the Lots so what we're looking for is just another two years to legally record those lots thank you and all I'm asking for I don't want to be a thorn on this no um because we're here to represent the wider community and the folks in this Chambers is that I just want to make sure that moving forward as life happens because life happened a couple years ago with the pandemic sure impacted the the conditions of the market is how are yall going to Pivot to effectively communicate those changes when life happens to current and perspective residents and totally respect that and and like I said what I wanted to you know kind of provide the history is that this applicant has not been shy with engaging the public at large on on this pro project in particular at this time what we're looking at is is a fairly narrow scope uh of what is being asked for tonight right it's it's an extension of time for two years it's not retiga the project it's not looking back through the findings of the project that was already dealt with it was approved in 2019 and we're looking to get another two years um because Mark as you mentioned right we've had a pandemic we've had uh you know significant um uh rate increases in that has affected the housing market I mean the these things are not anticipated right it's uh wasn't in any of our crystal balls um when they when they I got this approved in 2019 so respectfully requesting the additional two years thank you and thank you chair of course no we always want to hear your voice commissioner I appreciate your conversation any more discussion oh commissioner Villa please so generally speaking I think it is appropriate to extend but I mean if if all the commissioner um Basera is asking for is a continuance is that going to be a problem just to allow for some communication I think one of the challenges that we face is that this expires November 16th and so that continuance really starts to put a a crunch on thep time frame moving forward as we move to the next meeting so um that I I believe that's one of the challenge of of continuing that but that is at the option of this commission commissioner Mel thank you um maybe this is this will be for you Andy why uh was the NAB only scheduled for the day before this hearing I don't know we yeah we don't have any did you get on was this scheduled to be heard last night I believe it was we we were yeah I think we received a notice but then we received quickly a notice of cancellation if I remember my my my concern is why was this only put on the schedule for the NAB last night the day before that we're supposed to be heard here when you knew or or wood Rogers knew that this 2-year was coming up sure instead of waiting till the last now I feel like we're kind of up against the wall no understood and yeah I I don't know I mean we don't make obviously the schedule so um we submitted in September and we're put on this agenda so yeah it's no I I don't know why that scheduling was commissioner I can speak to that once again Mike really um Andy is correct the applicant does not have control over the NAB schedule that is set by the nabs themselves um just so happened that that's where the meeting fell in the cycle and we have a statutory requirement to bring this request forward within a certain time frame um unfortunately as my understanding due to a lack of Quorum that meeting was canceled last night so it's just kind of by chance that that's how it fell okay thank you commissioner warm yes uh commissioner warm I have some you know General thoughts for discussion I gener I find that you know a time extension is largely a perun task you know it's just an extension as this was I think thoroughly discussed this was a project stemming from 2019 19 the decision has been made I feel strongly that this is an exemplary development for Reno it's in the urban core and that duet homes and density in this area are the right fit for this location I also feel that the applicant calling the use Event Center and including residential housing in a PUD was um not clear for those who might receive disclosures or at the time of signing a property so I would support the time extension because this has been approved and it is an exemplary project for Reno um I feel if we don't give the extension this will be very rushed to get the mapping done and that maybe with an extension There's an opportunity for better communication between the developer and the [Music] residents and my general thought to just commissioner villin NOA commissioner vasera appreciate all your comments really do um I think a continuance I don't know what that would really change they'd still be coming here requesting a Time extension I'm not sure what uh public input might provide if they you know if they were at a different stage of things they'd have a lot more ability to take on public comment and listen to their neighbors and make different choices but we're really just asking for an extension on approved project so I'm not sure that really really does anything if even if we got that so I'd be in support of this extension and agree with all the thoughts of commissioner worm commissioner AR uh yeah thanks chair um I do understand some of the Comm the communication issues um and maybe you know the the misunderstanding but ultimately this was a project that was approved in 2019 I don't see anything that we can do by virtue of a continuation that changes that other than kind of going back on a decision that the Planning Commission had made and kind of creating more hurdles I I don't see how that's really beneficial I agree with commissioner War Meer that it's an exemplary development and that at least the continuation there's some opportunity to sort it out maybe change some of the um the communication going forward but it is a perfunctory element and I wouldn't support a continuation okay seems we've had our discussion we will entertain a motion or actually still in disc I didn't know we jump into discussion so yeah I'm I'm in discussion mode right now um this is going to be for um I guess Brooke um which is going to lead into discussion for me um this just a real quick question why does the city set these uh two-year windows that they have to get stuff done so this is actually not set by the city this is set by the state of Nevada so this is um NRS Nevada RBI statute sets these timelines so we reflect those in our approvals so once it approved move we said that it it um defers to NRS which is four years NRS then goes on further say once you've done that initial final map that that kind of takes off your ticker right you've got to get the next one now within two years well they submitted prior to that so now they're kind of up they they've shortened their time period but to your question um City of Reno does not set those timelines those are set by the state okay why and I I don't know if you can answer this why does this St set limits what what is the what is the reason behind the limits you know I think it's to look look so you don't have tentative Maps sitting out there for 20 years right and so they are looking at a specific timeline I think they I'm sure they've taken in a lot of input that they're looking in what is it take to develop design a project move forward what's appropriate to that once you do have an approval to get those Final maps because that Final maps really the time when you can go and build right that tentative map so we don't want tentative Maps sitting out there for 10 years and to have them be 18 months that's very challenging when you're building a larger project to get a final map in so the state has has settled on four years and we we feel that's appropriate perfect thank you and that's going to lead me into my discussion point and he said exactly what I was expecting in to say is what it's appropriate and the reason they set these time limits is if something no longer becomes appropriate I believe that is our job to give extension or not so I understand the argument and the discussion that something was already litigated something was already discussed something was already be passed but I believe it is our job as the Planning Commission to come back and look if something is still appropriate and if it's not appropriate anymore for this area it is our duty to make sure that we do not approve a Time extension now I'm not arguing for or against this extension at this point but I am trying to make the point that it is our job it is our duty to make sure that we approve something appropriate for the area and if it is no longer appropriate from what was done four years ago or 2019 it is our duty to not approve that time extension so I'd like to hear what you think about that and also I want to throw in there I don't believe wood Rogers I don't believe the developers were hiding anything from anybody um I don't believe it was purposeful but does this fall under the the guys of a buyer beware um they should have looked into it they should have checked I'd like to know what the the commission's feelings are on those two items thank you sure sure I'll let I'll go to you in a second commission way so as a realtor uh usually we're giving disclosures about uh adjacency to Future developments um that can be tough if you're on the very north end of this project they may not consider the very south end of that a a future development adjacent to their property but usually there is some form of disclosure happening within that transaction that can vary from agent to agent broker to broker um so I can't speak to that but usually that is a conversation and I would hope um when buying a property with your realtor if that's what you used or the sales office that they would be able to discuss what's what's on the horizon or something that has been approved minimum so um just wanted to answer that directly but I'll let commissioner villain NOA Chim in I just want I first I want to say thank you for contributing that's very thoughtful um contribution to the discussion and um I like that you pointed that out because I mean there's very valid points that you made very valid points um I think at this point though this is our first extension it's the first extension so the way that state law works is there is one extension so this is they're not previous extensions they get one and that's a two-year extension as Allowed by state law okay sorry since he he's here can I ask a question Brook since I have you up here great that's actually helpful as well um so what would happen say we say we do Grant this and in two years they come back and the Project's still not done what happens at that point there's no further extensions at that point they will have to have submitted a final map to make uh to move forward with these Lots okay okay that's helpful um mainly I just want to say thank you I appreciate you you engaging in the conversation that was really um thoughtful my position stands though commissioner arong Goode thanks Arthur I agree I think that that is a really thoughtful point I guess my concern is there's kind of a slippery slope element to it because they are allowed one and only one extension which we're here to consider um four it was litigated four years ago I don't know how how much maybe the standards of approval or conformance with the master plan Etc would have changed within that four years so I have a hard time looking at it and saying well maybe now it's inappropriate if that makes sense like I think it's it's a good point but for me it's a bit vague commissioner which one of you wants to talk you look look like you want Chriss RM go ahead Chriss rorer um I'll be quick I really appreciate the feedback and comments of my fellow Commissioners um given that there's less units than was originally intended in the Pud I sense that if this expired we would be seeing a tenative map which could potentially bring 12 units to this location and I wouldn't be surprised if that was the case um so it might be worth considering that eight have been approved already commissioner viser go sure one last thing um going to build upon uh commissioner mun's point about what is appropriate what's not um it's hard for me to sometimes determine that when there is no public input um we've already stressed that point and I think that's just the missing piece for me but I think it could be remedied as well uh Mr derling would you be able to make a commitment to to rectify that communication issue and how would that look like if you cannot make a commitment I'll be frank that I'm a no I guess I'm confused commitment on going forward on projects within ranchera in general or well particularly with I guess I'll stay within scope of of this particular uh project before us um by your own admission you mentioned that the last Outreach was really in 2019 um and it seems like a long time ago uh to to to stop doing that it almost seems like you're taking folks for granted not you but you know the project and um I'd just like to know if you'd be able to make a commitment on behalf of the The Wider project to rectify that communication issue yeah as far as I mean I obviously can speak in behalf of with Rogers as a consultant right for for the project um we take public input very seriously we we do public Outreach professionally on a number of projects both for private clients as well as public agencies so from us yes we are absolutely committed to public Outreach um for this project I know the applicant um has regular meetings at the club does you know different engagement um in small groups and larger meetings and things like that I'm not involved in any of those so it's hard for me to kind of speak specifically to that um but I know that they are doing um those meetings on a somewhat regular basis and so moving forward um you know we have very few projects left uh with with for the build out of this um and yes we would commit that we would be um definitely engaging the community on on any of the future projects for sure great thank you Mr ear yeah sh okay commissioner Armstrong soorry one question maybe for Brooke um or Mike is there any point in this project that communication wasn't made in the appropriate form format like was there any point along the way of these approvals or the tentative map um scheduling nabs things like that cuz I have a hard time I guess with with this argument that there wasn't good communication like I I want to be very clear like were there any issues with communication like in terms of what's required by the statute and what we're here to observe and if so were they rectified like can you clear that up for me a little bit you know so an extension of time is a little unique versus a a true de like a development project right so when we went through the first tentative map we we went to nabs we had you know there was Outreach there was noticing there was a a larger process um so a lot of as as the uh applicants representative mentioned that a lot of that was done at that period of time now obviously the community has changes and there there's new input and information but on on a an extension it's usually really more of a I would consider a minor hearing than we would see a the original approval being really the major hearing on this um they did everything from the noticing to scheduling for the NAB and trying to participate in all those things that we ask or are required by RMC so I see no shortcoming um on the applicant's part of of trying to engage or be through that through our process okay thank you okay I will entertain a motion commissioner Armstrong thank you chair commissioner Armstrong I'll motion uh in case of lc2400 sorry yeah 000012 um tenative sorry tenative oh wait sorry I'm reading this wrong yeah I have okay I have the case number right it's just different in the tenative map so sorry Case LDC 24- 000012 uh tenative map to allow for a two-year time extension of previously approved residential tenative map subdivision um LDC 9-00 65 ranchera Village 4 based upon compliance with NRS 27830 uh requirements to presentation of final map or series of Final maps extensions of time I move to approve a two-year time extension on the ranera Pud Village 4 tenative map subject to original conditions of approval okay we have a motion commissioner R A second we have a motion in a second we can move into discussion one more time please do commissioner Munos thank you commissioner Muno uh if this is granted um I believe this will be for the city uh the presentation of final map comes to us next and at that time public notice needs to be made no at at this point this will be the last public hearing point of time once the final map comes that's done administratively and so that's the process that we review sewer traffic hydrology the whole point of map to the point that we are comfortable to send that final platted map that establishes those lots with the county so this will be the final public hearing okay thank you that's all I have thank you okay we have a motion in a second Michelle roll call vote please draulic yes Armstrong yes theera nay Munos nay rer yes villain NOA yes it's four to two motion passes all right thank you good luck with your project thank you okay we are going to take a short five minute bathroom break cookie break get Michelle you Michelle you want no no no you're good I'm just making sure she's good but you can keep it I think my mic is off I I know what you're trying to do now and we will move to item five 5.3 case number lc24 d008 doties and are getting at a presentation from the applicant oh thank you we have Jeff let's see Jeff can you hear us yes I'm able to hear you can you hear me we can hear you okay thank you good good evening Mr chairman and planning Commissioners my name is Jeff Donado with argentum representing the property owner who is the applicant on this application and there with you this evening in Chambers um is Mr seev Carlson who represents the tenant um and if we can go to the PowerPoint let's see here hang hang on just a second okay are you oops are you sharing your screen okay Jeff are you there oh there doing it are you able to hear me now yeah and are you able to see my screen no we couldn't see your screen we're we're going to share it oh okay thanks appreciate yeah we've got it we see it we see it now okay could you just make it a little bit bigger yes please put it my size big as oh sorry put it in um slideshow mode if you could started from the beginning yeah is that good yep okay so the project is located within the airport Square shopping center which is generally located on the south side of East Plum Lane and between Harvard way and Interstate 580 the physical address within the shopping center is 1296 East Plum Lane sweets I through K which is right here in this section the property is Zone General commercial and the master plan is subur Suburban mixed use um the overall parcel is approximately 17.24 Acres with Ingress and ESS along East Plum Lane and Al also har Harvard way um there is sufficient parking within the center there's shared parking which has approximately 96 68 shared parking spaces um and there's also 32 accessible spaces and also bicycle spaces as well some of the tenants within this shopping center existing tenants within this shopping center is Costco More Furniture for Less Urban Air the Sleep Train One Nevada Federal Credit Union um there's also various restaurants and Retail establishments as well the the proposed used is for a Bar and Tavern or Bar Bar Tavern which being in a General commercial zoning District requires a conditional use permit and that's why we are here before you today seeking the approval of that use permit um in addition there it will be restricted gaming um 15 machines which is permitted as an accessory to the bar and Tavern use under RMC in addition to that the package alcohol is also deemed an accessory used to the bar Tavern use and um within the GC zoning District um and then also we have the restaurant use which is permitted uh in the GC Z in uh GC zoning District the overall total square footage of the space is approximately 4,19 six square feet um to there will be no one under the age of 21 allowed on premise there'll be a total of approximately 28 dining seats and as I mentioned before 15 machines which are all embedded into the barop as required by RMC um the hours of operation would be 247 and then lastly we just have a conceptual elevation plan um it is conceptual but we did want to show that as well um with that staff is recommending approval of this application subject to conditions um we have review red and accept those conditions and would respectfully request this application to be approved um with that we're here to answer any questions that you may have okay thank you thank you we're going to get a presentation from okay great thanks jef we on good okay uh Jeff Foster associate planner for the record uh um LDC 24008 for doties is what we have tonight so uh the applicant did a great job of going through some of the basics I'm not going to belabor the point on the site size the location I think probably everyone is familiar with the location uh the airport Square uh shopping center the request for the conditional use permit is specifically to allow the use a bar lounge or Tavern in The General commercial zoning district and the 24hour operations between 11:00 p.m. and 6:00 a.m. the key issues are compatibility with surrounding uses and operational impacts the Red Arrow does point to the to the location within the center where the uh vacant Suites are located the zoning District as the applicant indicated is General commercial and the master plan is Suburban mixed use here are some policies that the uh application uh is in line with the components for the um application for doties and even though it is doties the what we were analyzing is a bar lounge or Tavern use it's an approximately 4,16 squ foot Bar and Tavern use with restricted gaming uh meaning up to 15 slot machines the restaurant use is secondary um a bar or Tavern also has food service so this really is not a restaurant um uh even though it shows dying in and food service is available but it is it is truly a bar or Tavern use uh proposed security and surveillance provided by Nevada restaurant Services Inc and um nrsi installs a a ma sorry minimum of 28 interior and exterior uh cameras in any Do's location in terms of compatibility with surrounding uses um there is a dois near nearby on Plum Lane at 1100 East Plum Lane uh we'll the ownership for that dois will be the same as the proposed dois location that location was previously a Sneakers Bar and Grill uh that was entitled at uh prior to does taking it over um so that and the the picture is of that Do's location at 1100 East Plum Lane uh in addition to that location there are three restaurants with alcohol service in the Costco Shopping Center and the uses that are in the center are typical of of shopping centers in the area um woster High School is immediately across Plum Lane to the north and Plum Lane is a major arterial providing a substantial amount of Separation also it's worth noting that the closest residential uses are approximately 1300 feet to the Northwest and 1100 feet to the Southwest where that comes into play is in terms of the operational impacts uh staff does not anti at any impact to existing residents you know 1300 and 1100 ft away um because of those proposed 24-hour operations and that would be because of the nature of the use being an interior use um within the building um the distance to the use and uh and the nature of that use RPD and code enforcement specifically provided comment which is to say they had no comment there was no uh concerns about the proposed use in that location and code enforcement did indicate that the applicant um has ample security and that they do not have any uh issues with other dois locations uh in the area I should have mentioned earlier that there are approximately 15 dois locations in the greater Reno Sparks area uh here are the recommended findings for the conditional use permit staff can make all the findings and here is the recommended motion and I'm available for any questions thank you Jeff appreciate it you bet all right we go to the Commissioners for disclosures commissioner RoR please commissioner RM I'm familiar with the site commissioner Basera same disclosure commissioner Armstrong I'm familiar with the site commissioner Mo same disclosures commissioner banua visited the site familiar with the site commissioner dracul familiar with the site and also spoke to an associate of the applicant all right Michelle do we have any requests to speak fors I did not re I did not receive any requests to speak forms no voicemails and no correspondence received okay thank you anybody in the chambers wish to speak on this item seeing none we will close comment and move it to the Commissioners for questions of the applicant or staff commissioner Villa thanks uh question for staff hi good evening what is the separation requirement uh distance separation requirement uh for the school and the because I think there's one right across the street right or down the street yes Jeff Foster associate planet for the record yeah Worster High School is right across Plum Lane uhuh so what's the distance requirement in the development code and what is this distance requirement distance requirement separating what the school from school from The Tavern yeah is there one there is no okay y perfect and the I think had one more oh there was a comment in that we received regarding concern with overnight parking uh you know people sleeping in campers Vans things like that um and what so I understand that there's some security cameras what's how's the applicant addressing that and if you'd like him or her to respond that's fine as well uh first I first of all I would point out that I did not see that comment um so I'm not aware of the comment uh regardless uh overnight parking is not allowed uh you know per code so that would become potentially a Code Enforcement issue if if it is something that has been happening or would happen as a result of of in terms of people camping in the parking lot but in terms of the use if it's a 24-hour use ostensible you could have people there overnight but if you're talking about actual like camping in a in the parking lot that would be a a Code Enforcement issue so yeah I understand that I think the concern was with um I can read the comment to you uh they're they're requesting that there be ample security wait was it oh here it is uh overgrowth behind the building can contribute to unwanted campers and people utilizing the business as a concealment so I think they're concerned that because the business is open from 11 to six that the idea is that they're going to Camp there right by the business giv the impression that they're actually patrons I see bus okay so I'm just asking what the response to that is from a code perspective it would be code from the if the applicant would like to speak to that absolutely well let me put it this way seev Carlson for the record I'm outside Council to Nada restaurant Services doing business as does dois is not the applicant the landlord is I I read this and I'll let Jeff answer it I I understand that comment to be an airport Square shopping center comment as to the section of the building east of where dois proposes to be located and there's an old uh I think drive-thru for the credit union there and so I think that's more of a comment as to the landlord's responsibilities I think the landlord is ready willing and able to address that it isn't a Do's customer or a Do's business concern obviously if we have 28 cameras indoors and Outdoors uh we're happy to report that to RPD um as a gaming licy um if it becomes needed but I think that's a landlord question so I just wanted to make sure for the record it's not a I don't think it's a do specific concern this is Jeff denado on behalf of the applicant and property owner so during this process um RPD did indicate there was some vegetation where they were concerned that people may start encamping in there and when the landlord did learn of that they took the necessary steps to trim to prune and to make sure that it's not an inviting place for people to Camp um and the landlord is committed to doing what it what's necessary to ensure that doesn't happen and as far as people camping on the property this is the first that we're that I'm hearing about it but I can definitely bring it to my clients's attention and make sure that they understand that that was a concern that was addressed here and to make sure that they're aware of and take the necessary steps and make sure that's not happening May I chime back in on that okay so if you're referring to the RPD comment I'm sorry I took it as a public comment I didn't know who it was from yeah yeah it's it's from Tyler burrow officer burrow from RPD um and so yeah he was talking about as Seb talked about uh the on the backside of the building people camping quote unquote okay uh encampments in in in the in the overgrown vegetation and I did forward that to the applicant and as Jeff Donado indicated um the the center is responsible for that um not the applicant in this case okay thank you no further questions and if I may jump in I just Google mapped it I can see what they're discussing now makes more sense if you get a chance to look so thank you for clarification commissioner berair thank you chair uh Mr Foster perhaps for you really just points of clarification um since the landlord is the applicant is it correct to say that if one day dois goes they decide to move down the street this this permit stays and Bullies can move in for instance and uh leverage that 247 permit so those Suites the specific Suites there and I think it's condition number five limits the entitlement the conditional use permit entitlement for a bar lounge or Tavern and 24hour operations to literally those two Suites only okay y great thanks Mr Foster and one more where are how does community neighbor input weigh in on this type of application it's not residential necessarily next door but um you know there's various restaurants businesses uh LDS bookstore I'm just curious how that weighs in if at all so there were no comments received from the public or from the NAB on this so if if if we were to have received comments certainly we would have factored them into the analysis but there were no comments received okie dokie thank you you bet seeing no more questions move to discussion or a motion uh commission Mo I'm ready to make a motion all right thank you uh the case number of LDC 24-8 based on compliance with the pickable findings I move to approve the condition of use permit subject to the conditions listed in the staff report and I can make the findings I have a motion Mr Armstrong I'll second I have a motion and a second all in favor any opposed no congrats move thank you thank you and i' just like to take a moment to say I appreciate staff's hard work on this application particular Jeff um he was great to work with and it was a pleasure and we appreciate the approval thank you as well and good luck thank you all right we move on to item 5.4 LDC 24007 notable Music Therapy Services SPD looks like we'll get a presentation from the applicant yeah please thank you feel free to state your name and go right ahead great thank you my name is Sarah Tony I am here representing notable Music Therapy Services I've worked with notables on and off for the last 10 years as a a fund Riser primarily um so next slide please you can control it by can I the podium there yeah awesome thank you okay so I don't know if you guys are familiar with notable Music Therapy Services uh a lot of people know the band uh called the notables this is a group of uh adults with disabilities or people of all abilities who go around and we perform around 50 gigs a year so um you might have seen them all over the place but uh this last fiscal year we served 2500 people and uh we recently moved to 2590 orovada drive we used to be at McKinley Arts um the city building just down the way and we ran out of space when we were unable to uh grow and so we moved and we moved into this new well new to us quite old building is about 50 years old it used to be the old AT&T call center is 177,000 square ft and and um so our programs have moved into this space over here it's been just full uh just in September fully renovated and um this space over here will be renting out these three offices to other nonprofits so the Reno Jazz Orchestra and uh we're still working out who else will be moving in to these spaces because we don't we just don't need this yet and then here is uh the the space in question and this is a a a around a thqu foot commercial kitchen um and we're hoping to rent that out to somebody who needs it we're a a music based organization uh we do adaptive music and music therapy we don't need to feed 900 children or I think it was 900 meals a day this used to be the monor school and uh they would serve breakfast and lunch to like three 400 kids that doesn't happen anymore um so this is what we're asking for today is that uh even though our zoning is public facilities we would like to be able to rent out this space to a uh Food Service um organization restaurant uh we we don't want any retail sales out of this space but like a food truck or a bakery a cater or something like that and um when we originally tried to to rent out this space we discovered really quickly that we were not allowed to do that that and so that's why we're here so this is our space right now um we're right on the City Line and the the surround these are the surrounding um land uses or the zoning General commercial professional offices public facilities so these are also schools high desert monor moved right across the way over here this is um Rita Kanan Elementary and and then uh this is actually Rena housing um senior low-income housing here and then there's a new senior uh low-income housing moving in here um so it's a really great place for us to be as an organization who works with people with disabilities and generally lower income and then the this is the M from the master plan so you can see us right here this little purple and so we're still in the in the master plan uh public facility or quas public but will'll be surrounded by Suburban mixed use so part of our application was to go through the benefits of this we are a nonprofit and so um leasing out this kitchen it would be around $2500 to $3,000 a month in Revenue which would go a long way towards the supporting the families who we serve um we also as an organization we do a lot of performance-based stuff so we have multip multiple community events per year which often involves food so it wouldn't hurt our feelings at all if there was a caterer in that space who could um also help we could you know support them they could help us just in having food coming out of that kitchen would really be supportive and also some of the people we've talked to about this have talked about whether or not they would actually do some cooking classes or in some way engage and support the people with disabilities who we serve on on our site and I'm sure well I don't know but I'm guessing you've been told that there's not enough kitchens in this town for the number of food entrepreneurs so uh the the kitchen is fully stocked with refrigerators and freezers we bought the place with a functioning dishwasher we've got the grease strap we've got all the things what we don't have as an ability to have somebody get to work and that's it so um I think this would be a great benefit to the business Community as well um just to go through this really quickly either we are in compliance or we have had no impact because there's no retail we're not selling anything there we're not serving food there um we don't see any traffic or safety concerns showing up um and we really do feel like this is a going to be a benefit for the community and um for the business Community but also for the for the community in which we serve which is primarily folks with disabilities seniors people with u mental health disorders um so that's it um I open up to questions thank you thank you appreciate it we'll get a presentation from staff Leah good to see you hi it's been a minute it's been a while I know I noticed all righty well good evening members of the commission for the record my name is now Leah pakati no longer Leah Brock um associate planner with the City of Reno development services and this evening I'm following up on Sarah's presentation for notable Music Therapy Services specific plan District so here you can see where the site is located it is a 3 Acre Site and it is on the south side of orovada street approximately 290 ft from the intersection with Silvera Boulevard to give you a little bit of background and I know that Sarah touched on this a bit but the site was originally developed as an AT&T office building in 1973 and then in 2005 High Desert monasi acquired the property and the city council converted the master planed land use designation to public facility at that time and the zoning District went from professional office to PF to allow for that Primary School to be developed in that area uh as Sarah stated High Desert monor outgrew that location and they move to that other location that's just to the west of where they where notables is now located and notables has now been operating out of that property for about two years so today's request is for a zoning map Amendment from public facilities to specific plan District key issues that we analyzed in this request were compatibility of the proposed zoning and and the development standards with the surrounding land uses and conformance with the master plan so first I'll just talk a little bit about conformance with that master planned land use designation of suburban mixed juice you can see on the screen there the conforming base zoning districts and it's limited in that um I'm sorry it's public quasi public land use designation and you can see that those conforming base districts uh are limited you basically have mixed juice airport public facilities uh Parks Greenways in open space or you can do a PUD or an SPD so when notables first came to us and said we want to allow this commercial kitchen potential catering food truck something like that we said well your options are kind of limited under the master planed land use designation and without a master plan change um you really only have a choice of going to an SPD so they said okay let's do that so I want to be very clear here that the underlying uses is are retaining PF so all of the development standards are still PF none of that is changing the only thing that's changing is that we are allowing two extra uses and that's commercial kitchen and food processing or wholesale Bakery um both of these will allow for the preparation of the food on site but it needs to be moved off offsite for consumption so it's not that like they can open a restaurant in this site or they could open a bakery and have retail sales so I just want to be very clear that retail sales would not be allowed in this location and we have specified that in the SPD handbook as well here you can see the SPD findings staff did review all of these and finds that it is in conformance with the findings um you know I'm going to back up to the allow uses CU I just want to talk about something for a second right here so like I said the potential uses could include food truck or a catering service and no retail is permitted um the standards in the handbook are specific and do provide assurances that future use and or Renovations or potential Redevelopment of the site um would be in a near identical form to what has existed on the property now because of those PF standards this handbook does provide for little flexibility in design and development standards and essentially the property is going to function no different than it has um looking at the potential impacts to the area because we do have two adjacent schools and we know that traffic can be an issue when there are schools uh the traffic impacts were analyzed in 2005 when high desert monor came in and the site was developed as a school uh the current and proposed uses uh with notables operating on the site potentially offices food truck or a catering service are much less impactful from a traffic standpoint than what was originally analyzed for the School in 2005 and for that reason this request to change the zoning to an SPD did not trigger any requirements for like a traffic impact analysis or anything like that now if coming forward something changes on the property it's being redeveloped it's going to have extra uses there are several things within Reno municipal code that could change on that site that would then require that traffic impact so I just want to make sure that we understand that should a propose should a proposed use come forward that exceeds what was established by those development standards in 2005 or triggers anything like over 200 trips uh per peak hours or things like that they will have to come forward with a traffic impact analysis I just want to be clear about that so here again are the findings staff did review these and was able to make all the findings staff uh does recommend that the Planning Commission recommend approval of the zoning map Amendment to the city council and the recommended motion is on the board and I am available for any questions thank you very much thank you Le and congratulations thank you very much we'll move it to the Commissioners for disclosures commissioner villan NOA please commissioner Villa I visited the site commissioner mun I'm familiar with the S commissioner Armstrong familiar with the site commissioner berera I'm familiar with the site commissioner r no disclosures commissioner dracul no disclosures all right Michelle we have any request to speak form Zoomers voicemails I did not receive any request of speak forms no voicemails no correspondents and no one on Zoom great anybody in Chambers wish to speak on this item seeing none we'll close public comment on this item and move it to the Commissioners for questions of Staff or the applicant commissioner Armstrong uh this one's for staff thanks Leah and congratulations um so this one's pretty straightforward I just kind of want to make sure I understand so when it was the monor school and they had the commercial kitchen this it didn't trigger any issues because they were just serving the children that attended the school so there wasn't any commercial application to it but because of what's being proposed here that would trigger this SCP requirement exactly so it's cons was considered an accessory used to a school prior and they are allowed to feed on site now if notables decided that they wanted to do something similar like that where they wanted to feed everybody on site and it was only being used for that it would then be considered an accessory for them but because it's coming in as a separate business that's what's triggering it okay great I just wanted to make sure I understood thank you absolutely commissioner villain NOA please thank you first uh want to say it's a seems like a great program great organization um I do have questions regarding the wholesale compon wholesale component so and I'll just come out and say what my concern is it's mainly trucks semis big rigs things like that so it's I drove around the area it's pretty residential as you indicated earlier school so I I'd hate to see a bunch of semis coming in there for wholesale distribution of commercial products um baked goods whatever it is so what's the situation there what what are we looking at for that is that going to be something that is possible or can we see a condition put in um we can't condition it because it's a zoning change um but I think at this point we're only looking at a thous foot kitchen it's it's it's not it's not huge so if somebody were to come in wholesale and do a bakery they would be limited to that thousand square feet that they're at now I I I can't imagine that I would that we that would require semis coming in and out now if they chose to expand that kitchen and they were going to make that commercial kitchen larger they were going to put an addition on anything like that would then trigger like I said a more thorough review of the potential traffic impacts and it would be reviewed at that time but again this is only a thousand foot kitchen okay what give me a visual what what's a th square foot because I didn't go in so what would you I mean how would you describe that I'm just trying to picture what a do you want to explain about what that kitchen looks like yeah so the um the equipment that's in there like there's a let's see I I don't know about a visual but basically there's there's a one fairly small dishwasher that you would see kind of that you know if you're going to a restaurant or a bar where you can see like they put in one tray for glasses or something I mean that's the size of the dishwasher is one small tray at a time there's um one cooked top there's um there's no ovens um so somebody would have to bring in an oven the only oven that would fit is one double stack um so you you know there's really not not much capacity uh a bakery that that might produce enough food to to to require trucks of any kind would be they would need to take up basically you know like those Rotator kinds with like big oven doors and all of that stuff there's so there's really no room for that and then the way that the kitchen is set up um I don't know if it's worth bringing my my image back up but it's actually cut in half so so half of the kitchen is um is a dry prep area and only and then the other half has like the actual equipment in it um so what are you thinking as far as um I mean the wholesale component I'm just trying to think of like well so who we're talking to right now is someone who is and you don't have to share a name or anything just that's no I won't because it might not come through but she's an event planner and she does like children's birthdays okay so she would be making like thank you so she would be making um uh cakes for party to order or like cake pops for corporate parties so here's the half of the and it's yeah it's the smaller half so this is the half of the kitchen where like here's the cook top here's where an oven could go um and then the dishwasher is in this corner the refrigeration is along this wall so it's all and then this is like the prep table so to give you a sense of scale this is like maybe um 10 foot stainless steel prep table here um and then this is the the dry prep area so it' be and she's planning on using this primarily for if if she ends up um renting it is primarily for storage okay okay I I mean no further questions I think that answer that gets to the heart of um my concerns and Leo to to your point earlier um you stated that if because once we give the entitlement for wholesale I mean that would be permitted but in this case you said if they expand or attempt to expand to L you know take up the whole building there would be what would be that process what would that process look like they they would have to come back in front of us or this Council potentially it it depends on what that would actually look like but at the very least it would require it to go through building permit fire permit and business license review where we would catch it at that time and it would it would be analyzed at that time by not just planning but also by the engineers to determine if it triggers any of those requirements um I think one of the things I was just thinking about is that there's no loading docks or anything like that at this site so any sort of distribution would be limited to car traffic okay all right thank you no further questions okay commissioner B AI um I just want to say this is genius uh I love it I I think it's um the type of entrepreneurial spirit that uh this this community needs and just want to applaud you for that um my friends that opened the DU Gren in the 80s would have loved something like this instead of floating around all over town trying to find where to make it this is great so I applaud you great thank you very much yeah looks like we slid into discussion happy to keep it there unless we have any more questions look like you want to commissioner rorer commissioner rorer for discussion i w to Second uh my fellow Commissioners comments this is such a wonderful use I understand those conversions of public facilities are so challenging and uh I want to thank you for willingness and uh recognition of the time and money that could have probably gone to resources that help community members but went to this exercise instead thank you ready to make a motion please do on the case number LDC 24-7 notable music th Therapy Services based on compliance with the appicable findings I move to recommend that city council approve the zoning map amendment by ordinance and I can make the findings we have a motion M second and we got a motion in a second any more discussion seeing none all approved or all in favor I I any opposed seeing none motion passed thank you congrats and good luck with your project thank you I jumped the gun a little there sorry uh item 5.5 case number LDC 24-6 sa truck terminal we'll get a presentation from Seth real quick I need to uh recuse myself from this item thank you good all right good evening uh for the records Sev Carlson with ker croll here on behalf of the property owner and applicant uh Saia Freight Line LLC uh so we have for you tonight an application for a conditional use permit and for alternative equivalent compliance so the Project's located at uh 4580 M Street it's about I think 750 50 ft east of the intersection of M Street and Rock Boulevard we're talking about a site that's just under 11 acres and we're proposing a warehouse building of approximately 37,000 Square ft with a shop building of approximately 13,500 sare ft across three Parcels that are subject to uh reversion to acreage application that's pending Zoning for for the property is industrial commercial all the property uh to the west east and south is also zoned industrial commercial with uh mixed employment zoning on the other side of M Street uh which is largely property owned by the trucky River flood Management Authority and will likely uh never have any development on it the conditional use permit is required for the truck terminal use and then with respect to the uses around us to the South and to the east is owned by Envy energy it's primarily offices and then they store various equipment on that property so that's uh you know a typical industrial commercial use to the West we have kind of you know commercial industrial Flex space I think there's a Solar Company you know kind of a variety of businesses that are located there the master plan uh land use is mixed employment and so that the master plan obviously wants a ride wide range of employment opportunity the underlying use is is conducive to that and I'll talk a little bit more about that in a little bit but when you take a look at where we're at at this intersection we're in a we're in a good location uh for what used to be an agricultural property and is now surrounded really by industrial properties so we've talked about the cup with respect to the alternative equivalent compliance uh really it's focused on the warehouse buildings orientation uh on Mill Street and where the bays are and the way that the we have site constraints on the properties and so normally under code you wouldn't want those Bays uh facing M Street um but the way the properties laid out physically geographically uh we have some alternative ways of keeping that design in place and using Landscaping as a buffer so that it's not as visible uh from M Street so here's the existing site uh corner to corner we have the existing Flex space industrial stuff on the west and then we have the Envy energy yard to the South and to the East and then we have mil Street here so for the site plan uh we have M Street at the top of the page uh we have we'll have controlled access into the site uh it's gated uh it's surveilled uh we have parking uh that comes up here we have a fenced area that actually then you have to come in through a gate into the terminal we have the shop uh to the east of the entrance and uh fueling the shop is only for fleet vehicles for small repairs and regular maintenance and then we have the warehouse building which is the larger building uh which has Cross Dock um where trucks can pull up and have trailers on either side for Sia the trailers do not have uh trucks don't have backup beepers the hostlers don't have backup beepers um all that equipment has idle kill switches that kills the idle after 5 minutes and primarily we'll have only fleet vehicles coming in we do have a condition of approval that we're agreeing to to the extent we have non-f fleet vehicles coming in the terminal operator will tell those vehicles that they can't idle for more than five minutes if they don't have such a kill switch on their vehicles floor plan so this is the warehouse building we also have some office on the west side some more uh with respect to the warehouse building floor plan shop floor plan pretty basic and it has office and break room as well with respect to the preliminary landscape plan you know primarily we have uh Landscaping along that Mill Street section and for the alternative compliance we're looking at having Landscaping uh rather than double rows of trees having some on one side of the pioneer ditch and some on the other side of the pioneer ditch uh which is something that's staying in place this property will no longer take water from the Pioneer ditch because it's not an agricultural property anymore so the point of diversion will be closed we're in agreement with the condition that um you know with the closure of that point of diversion water will still flow through the Pioneer ditch um as it always has there just won't be a diversion onto this property since there's no more agriculture to irrigate here are elevations this is the warehouse elevation with the office and then the Cross Dock on both sides of the building little bit enlarge just so you can see a little more detail here's the elevation for the shop and then we have the photometric plan the site will be under 100,000 lumens total and compliance with code and then you know we can look at the general findings um so again we're in uh mixed employment for the master plan designation we're we've become more and more of an economy in Reno where Logistics uh are are significant as a part of our economy SAA is moving its uh facility from Sparks which it leases currently uh to this location so it's becoming a property owner uh for its own facility rather than leasing a facility it'll oper operate 24 hours a day employ approximately 120 people across three shifts and when we look at the other kind of logistics manufacturing and Industrial uses in proximity to this site we're consistent with that so other than where we have the alternative equivalent compliance as to how the warehouse building is facing Mill Street and how we've uh solved that issue with the additional Landscaping on both sides of pioneer ditch we're we're in compliance with the development code uh we don't have material traffic impacts for a warehouse um and and even having the the shop on site that reduces having third parties who would typically uh repair trucks and trailers from having to come on site so we're not moving vehicles uh off the site or bringing other vehicles on for mobile service I'd also note with respect to the traffic we have the the Traffic Engineers letter that indicated there's low trip generation and I think typically when you look at a terminal this isn't a traditional terminal uh typically terminals are considered inter modal where you'd have a seport you'd have rail we don't have that here so you don't have the same type of traffic impact that you would have on a traditional terminal site uh which the engineers rely on that designation it's really Intermodal in nature this one is not an intermodal site uh with respect to safe environment we're keeping the sidewalks keeping the bus route uh we'll have uh restricted access into the terminal site 247 surveillance as well if we want to go over cup findings I'm happy to but I know the evening's going on so I'm just going to click through them so Brooke can get on to his presentation and questions but I'm comfortable in saying we can meet all the findings for the cup as well as uh the alternative compliance all right thank you for your time thank you s appreciate it looks like we will get a presentation from Brook once again good evening Planning Commission Brooke Oswald associate planner for the record move through this we are in Ward three uh that is Project site I pulled out a little bit further you can see the airport uh directly to the West there and a large kind of building Footprints surrounding the site indicating uh industrial or industrial uses for the most part surrounding the site Additionally you can see the uh Chucky River in the greenway Corridor that runs uh directly to the north of the site pulling a little bit closer the project side is approximately 11 acres consisting of three uh parcels so because of the development what happens we do have What's called the reversion to acreage so all of those will be going into one parcel additionally we have a couple other permits in right now we have a demolition permit I also processed a demol demolition permit several years ago if you've driven by the site you probably have seen a brick home up on on uh beams for several years now so that is now being relocated and we have another demolition site uh permit for some of the other structures on site we also have our building permit in currently will be making the modifications uh if this is approved subject to the conditions that are here now uh there are two things we are in for we're in for that conditional use permit now if this was a traditional Warehouse we would this would go straight to permit and not we've seen a a lot of those uh this is unique in that it's a truck terminal I think this is one of the first that I've ever processed they are unique in that they don't have the the warehousing they're really dock to Dock and so they're they call them cross do so they're moving from one truck to another so it is a unique um sort of uh industrial um and and trucking use additionally we have that uh an alternative equivalent compliance that's for a building orientation how they decided to move their uh the building to really accommodate that building to the site itself additionally we have articulation that's an artic ar ar I can't say the two words together AR architectural articulation so I'll go into a little bit more detail when we pull pull up the the elevations uh big things we looked at this is that compatibility with the surrounding uses their operations and then um some of the visual impacts so once again to go over this project side you can see the airport uh this is that Greenway trucky River Greenway I talked about it is owned by the trucky River flood Authority um it is a critical flood plane we do not even though the zoning and master plan indicate different we do not anti ipate that developing in the future uh this is MB energy uh looks a little like the Millennium Falcon there uh but they have their offices a number of their storage yards and the large black directly to the north is a big uh sort of staging and storage area that they use MB uses and then finally directly uh to the West we have a flex industrial office uses a that front along Mill so all their office uses access is coming off of Mill Street when we really look at what is uh directly adjacent to the site those are those back bay doors or back doors and so we're not seeing those directly out to the offices quickly go over the reimagine Reno uh master plan it is a mixed employment master plan there are several things that this supports those are those industrial hubs or truck traffic uh creating an employment centers as we're looking at this um as as was noted or and detailed by the the applicant we we would anticipate approximately 120 workers coming in with this project uh to the on the uh the industrial commercial side um that allows a variety of these industrial uses that also does allow 24-hour operation and they will be utilizing that in their operations uh quickly looking at the proc process site we have two access points they're directly off Mill we have the main truck access point which comes to a gate and then is gated and then we have the employee parking area that you see directly off with its own access what staff really likes about that is we're separating that truck traffic and veeh vehicle traffic off there and creating that safety you have the the direct access vehicle access then we look at our main building this is a little deceptive and I outlined it because those are actually concrete that move outside of that uh to the West Side you can see the inet there that's their office areas break rooms and some of that then we have our shop building this is traditionally we're pushing that up front kind of uh with where with the architecture up front the bay doors do not Face Forward they face sideways in this and be using it it is only for uh the track traffic we're not at or the the business itself not no additional traffic um and has additional offices and then as you can see there's a little line it's a little hard to see but there is a pedestrian access that sort of moves to the site we will have the traditional sidewalk coming off the access to our businesses through that but they have an internal pedestrian system um as you can see they have a crosswalk areas there are some conditions that make sure those are adequately striped and worn so that we have that safety we have an additional one down here so as we look at that building orientation you see the long building is oriented that way we have bay doors on both the north south and east end of that approxim imely 38 37 doors on the north and east and five on the end our code states that bay doors should not face out to the public right away and that's why we're in for that uh alternative equivalent compliance is because of the facing of those bay doors so as we're looking at that alternative of compliance the elevations of the building here I think the top one's a good one to start with now that their office is a main office you can see they have a lot of articulation color are used different materials that they're using on that far end of the building this is that building that sits up against the flex office space on that side this is where that would be as you see as it runs down the bay door thing it becomes it's a it's a function fall forms following function in this thing this is is set up to distribute that and uh city code has certain articulation standards which require popouts and different sort of things and so in staff of looking at this the appropriateness of the building and its form and everything and distance and providing additional Landscaping that is conditioned um staff is comfortable that we're really mitigating that visual element and that that articulation does not add much more in this petition and really takes away from uh the general function of the building itself and then once again as I explained that orientation uh the landscape it will meet all the the landscape requirements of that IC zoning there are some existing um trees on site we do have some Co um code requirements if those are in the front setback there is a tree penalty that will be applied to providing additional trees on site and then you know also working with anything that we can Preserve in that site through their development to pre preserve those larger existing trees it does require that Mill Street buffering and then condition five as I mentioned requires additional landscape um as part of that uh building orientation and articulation we're um requiring additional buffering up along that street uh we have worked with the applicant we had an initial um in this area is where we would see condition five applying we did work with the applicant to put this together they had some concerns basically because they have that ditch that was mentioned up front and it makes it very challenging for them to get in that double row um so they did working with their design team they provided um some uh alternative language staff has read through this we are in agreement with this and and would recommend and uh this this amendment to condition five we could make all the conditional use permit findings and the alternative equivalent compliance findings and with that I'll leave you with the motion thank you thank you broe appreciate it all right we'll go to the Commissioners for disclosures commissioner Basera please s commissioner Armstrong I'm familiar with the site commissioner monos familiar with the site commissioner villan W I visited the site commissioner Dracula I'm familiar with the site and Carl would like to jump in yes thank you Mr chair I I just wanted to um speak to miss ryers recusal she indicated that she worked for the applicant on this particular project and she consulted with our office and we advisor to recuse so I just want to make sure we had a clear record on that so thank you thank you very much appreciate it okay with that said Michelle any public comment uh request to speak forms no no request to speak forms no voicemails and no correspondents received and there's no one on Zoom raising their hands thank you anybody in the chambers wish to speak on this item seeing none we will close public comment and move it to the Commissioners for questions of the applicant or staff commissioner munz um actually ready to jump into discussion please do sir uh I uh visit this area often as I have uh different um things I need to do for work back there and uh this area and the location that they chose to do this I think is a great location for that with Mill Street uh Rock right there to get to uh back to I80 U McCaron uh just east of this and then the uh airport back to uh 395 or 58 um this is a great area for this I think it's a good use of this uh land I I am always uh hesitant to see uh agricultural land um which is limited in our area um used for something other than that but this uh this is a great use of that and I have no problems with it so I'll be approving this I'll be a voting yes on this thank you thank you commissioner verer no s I saw your hand by the button buddy oh I was just going to double down on uh commissioner mun's sentiment there so I'm all for it great see like there may be no more questions or discussion we will entertain a motion commissioner mon I'll make a motion uh the case number of LDC 24-6 sa truck terminal based upon compliance with the pickable findings I move to approve the condition to use permit and alternative equivalent compliance subjects to conditions listed in the report and I can make all the findings we have a motion but it looks like Mike or Brooke wants could you just add for the record to amend the condition as amended commissioner Munos and to amend the commission to amend the conditions as amended as discussed in the discussed in the um presentation present the city's presentation okay sorry thank you satisfactory commiss billano B second all right we have a motion in a second any further discussion seeing none all in favor I any oppose seeing on motion passes good luck on your project need oh um I've gra it you got it thanks all right closing item five moving on to item six trucky Meadows Regional planning liaison report Mike you want to jump in yes there we do not have a liaison report this evening from TR Min Regal planning okay then we will close item six move to item seven staff announcements yes um just a quick update on some planning division projects um as I mentioned at our last meeting the appeal of the Taylor Street multif family project was scheduled for city council they withdrew that appeal they found another route forward um amongst themselves so that appeal was not heard by city council and the planning Comm commission's recommendation for denial stands um the Valley View Estates project which I think you heard two cycles ago that will go to City Council next week next Wednesday the council will hear that um and also as I mentioned last week uh Lauren Knox um from planning will'll be um giving you a presentation on the master plan and its interaction with the trucky midds Regional plan at the November 1st meeting so that will be on our agenda and then I was asked by uh commissioner Basera in regards to the code update um you should all be receiving an email from Angela fous assistant uh development services director uh this week with the latest from the user groups that she's been working with stakeholder groups um and then once those are essentially refined into the final draft um she will be making a presentation to the Planning Commission on those updates as well so those will be coming up at Future meetings thank you and our next meeting is November 1st to have that right correct okay great all right thank you Mike appreciate it close item seven open item eight commissioner suggestions for future agenda items commissioner Munos thank you this is not a uh suggestion just a recognition for the city uh the dorly m m m m park off of St Boulevard has been completed uh there's a grand opening um on Saturday and I just want to say that I really commend the city and the work they did up there the park looks amazing they done a great job and I know the uh residents in Ward four really going to uh appreciate that and use that Park so just want to say thank you to the city for all their work sweet love to hear it there you go golf clap all right closing item eight moving to item nine public comment this item is for either public comment on any action item or for any general public comment Michelle no correspondence no voicemails and no request to speak forms and seeing no one in the chambers we will close item nine and move to item 10 adjournment so moved all right everybody have a good evening we got okay we got a motion in a second all in favor all right