questions wow all right thank you oh yes good evening ladies and gentlemen i will call this meeting to order this is the land use planning and zoning committee of the city council councilor davis is serving as alternate for councilor benton and councillor bassan is serving as alternate for councillor pena all other committee members are present for this meeting if you would please stand for the pledge of allegiance i would ask councilor sanchez to give us the pledge in english and councillor bassan to lead us in the pledge in spanish with justice thank you counselors that was very nice thank you we appreciate that this meeting is open to the public and members of the public will be providing comments in person and virtually for those watching on the live stream it can be accessed through zoom webinar and youtube live sorry which was probably a blessing so this is for those watching on the live stream it can be accessed through zoom webinar and youtube live from most smartphones tablets or computers members of the public have the opportunity to address the committee if they have signed up for public comment for the rules published on the agenda and on our website on friday we will call for the speakers when we get to the individual agenda item you signed up for here are the public comment ground rules comments are to be addressed to the committee members only each participant has two minutes to present please keep your comments jermaine to the topics on the agenda and any disruptive conduct will result in removal from the meeting we will now go to agenda item a 10. this is sponsored by councillor benton and myself otan is adopting citywide text amendments to the integrated development ordinance 1416 for the 2021 ido annual update and adopting text amendments for a small mapped area the old town historic protection overlay zone hpo5 i would move a do pass and i need a second we have a second on that from councillor davis first of all councillors before we begin the actual meeting we will begin with public comment on this bill we will first hear from those who signed up to speak regarding cannabis prohibitions in old town councillor lewis or councillor davis i'm sorry uh madam chair thank you uh this matter involves cannabis zoning issues uh and as many of you know i work in the cannabis industry in the daytime although i don't have a personal opinion some of my clients do have an opinion on this matter and so i'm going to recuse myself from this particular amendment and discussion if you can invite me back when you move to the other portions of the bill thank you councillor davis we'll be happy to invite you back so this item is quasi-judicial and requires that members of the public be sworn in if you will be speaking for this please raise your right hand is anyone speaking towards it on this madam chair yes we have uh kathy hyatt yes excuse me so for those of you on zoom please raise your right hand do you affirm under penalty of perjury that your testimony today will be true i do thank you and thank you mr moya would you please begin uh calling the speakers thank you madam chair our first speaker will be kathy hyatt um okay uh can you hear me yes ma'am please proceed okay um i live in old town i have a business in old town and um the topic of cannabis retail in the old town hp05 historic district has been a subject of concern and discussion for some time a number of merchants residents property owners and san felipe church have expressed their desire for old town to remain a family friendly family friendly tourist destination in albuquerque and is felt that cannabis retail does not at all fit the definition of family friendly and is not appropriate in the old town historic district an application has previously been made to open a cannabis retail business on the northeast corner of mountain road and san felipe street and just yesterday i learned of an additional new development in the sawmill neighborhood that would be a mix of apartments hotel rooms and retail a cannabis retail shop will most likely be in the assortment of retail shops together with nearby cannabis retail shops already opening or planning to open on central avenue there will be plenty of cannabis shops in the old town area i urge you to help protect old town by passing the amendment prohibiting cannabis retail in the hp05 historic district thank you thank you madam chair we will now go on to public comments for uh o2210 general citywide changes and we'll start with speakers here in the chamber so we'll start with bradley day followed by rhiannon samuel where do we go right huh here can you hear me um my name is brad day um i wanted to come down to dispel the myth that i look like a dark square on the zoom screen because i could never get my camera to work i'm old what we have before us tonight is uh an opportunity to make some significant progress in dealing with the homeless trespassing and all the other things that go with it here in our city i have been working on this for over a year and the reason i got involved was because i would ask these homeless people how they would get a job and clean up [Music] was there any way to do that and they said no there's no place that we can go and take a shower and clean up to go to work and i was sitting there going what so with the help of some other people with some of the council members with petra and shanna we developed what we have in front of us tonight which is to create these safe outdoor spaces that we need which is a very cost effective model of providing exactly what i just described a base of operations where people can shower do laundry be secure and get a job if that's what they want to do we modeled it after camp hope down in las cruces and frankly if we don't provide this alternative we have no right to tell somebody not to trespass unless we have an alternative for them to go to that is a law that is being enforced around the country so my time is up thank you please pass it next speaker is rhiannon samuel thank you madam chair and members of the committee my name is rhiannon samuel and i am the executive director for naiop new mexico it's the commercial real estate development association and really what it is our membership is comprised of many companies and industries that contribute to new mexico's built environment i'd like to speak to you today about two amendments in this ordinance a2 and a21 for a2 the hotel conversion amendment neop is in support of this creative solution to get more housing and rental units on the albuquerque market as you're already aware we are drastically short on rental units throughout the city which lends itself to increased homelessness a concern that we all share however by only allowing this innovative solution to be applied to funding received by family and community services you are excluding a wide variety of funding sources that can participate in getting people housed now on a21 the elimination of mandatory prts i want to lead with naop is in support of prts but when these when this council made the changes to make the meetings mandatory and transitioned them to zoom or via email they became very generic and unproductive for both the city and the developers so we support making them optional while also working with the city planning department to make them beneficial to both sides thank you madam chair will now move to speakers on zoom and our first speaker will be gary eister thank you julian adam chair counselors i'm gary eister i serve on the environmental planning commission i'm addressing you in a personal capacity i understand that amendment 18 is not in play at lups i hope that's correct because taller permissive walls in front yards would damage neighborhoods here's why the taller a wall on the street is the more it obscures eyes on the street both for the neighbors and for the police it is well documented in the literature that we cannot make communities safer by building private fortresses second when clyde tingley signed our first zoning code in 1955 walls in front yards of most neighborhoods had been built by custom to three feet for decades the code recognized this the three-foot permissive wall has endured in the code to this day most neighborhoods were developed with this code it now forms the cornerstone of our streetscapes these are the principal architectural asset of a neighborhood in a few parts of albuquerque front yard walls taller than three feet are traditional the ido handles this already the wall permit major is easy to get for lots where taller walls are prevalent the epc considered this proposal and we heard resounding public opposition from many parts of the city we heard zero support we voted unanimously to recommend its removal from the red line draft the current three-foot permissive wall creates a good balance it delineates private property from public property it preserves eyes on the street and neighborhood streetscapes i urge the lups to consider the record of public input the deliberation of the planning commission reach the same conclusion and not support an amendment at lups and not when it reaches council either thank you thank you to you thank you for your hard work for this city our next speaker is michael brasher thank you very much madam chairman members of the group we uh we appreciate the time i'm michael brasher i'm the president of the intercoalition council well we're close to the end of the process for the 21 ido annual update staff submitted an initial tranche of amendments last october the 28th at that time the inter-coalition council formed a committee that met frequently putting a lot of work to review and provide feedback and suggestions on that batch of amendments our intent was not just to say no to everything but to make some meaningful suggestions for council consideration they are volunteers they provide work it is not free time it has a real value their work is important and is appreciated here are some of the concerns one is that there is no cut off date for proposed amendments in the annual cycle some amendments are are offered at a time not giving us adequate time to resp to provide a thoughtful proper response also on the subject of amendment 20 to the ido it failed for a lack of a second the amendment sponsored by councillor pena which we appreciate would have helped to serve to define whether a proposed amendment was technical textual or substantive the icc believes that ido annual update process was designed for and should be confined to technical and textual amendments substantive changes such as the current proposed amendments need wider review in my view and the view of the icc well whether you agree with with all the items that were in that amendment or not uh i think it would have been a good place for discussion on processes related to the ido the icc has concerns about some of the icc processes to be sure i want to thank the volunteers for their hard work they put in so much time i think the kind of discussion that we were hoping for is that all stakeholders thank you michael your time thank you very much thank you our next speaker is jane beckel good evening madam chair counselors i have submitted written comments earlier today on behalf of the santa fe village neighborhood association so now i'm speaking to you as an individual and there's one additional point that i would like to make tonight about the the amendment process i've been reading the proposed narrow legislation which is scheduled to become to come before council next monday and one point in that really resonates with me in the document it says whereas urban planners and development professionals can sometimes have better access to those holding legislative powers and in administering this ordinance the city recognizes the need for a constructive interface between neighborhood groups in the city to help address mistrust between neighborhood groups in the city and to help overcome knowledge access and experience barriers that could effectively quiet neighborhood voices when engaging urban planners in the city in various planning processes i appreciate the inclusion of that in the narrow i would also like to see it apply to the ido amendment process and i would like to see the inclusion of recommendations made most recently at the last loss meeting by the inter-coalition council mr brasher just outlined some of those but they include limiting the annual ido review process to textual and techno technical edits and the consideration of substantive amendments which is how i regard all of those before this committee tonight would be a separate process which would assure time for provision of detailed consideration of amendments and that proposal outlines various aspects of that i believe that if that were to be the process that concerns about potential quality neighborhoods thank you thank you our next speaker is greg weirs madam chair counselors the nob hill neighborhood association has considered the amendments to the ideo annual update as of april 6th we als have also considered amendments introduced earlier the following are the positions of our association we supported amendment a6 internally lit signs and were disappointed to see it withdrawn we supported amendments a7 self storage lighting and a17 variances and waivers and overlay zones and we thank you for supporting their inclusion we oppose amendment a2 non-residential conversions to residential uses for affordable housing we support the intent of increasing the availability of affordable housing our opposition is that by allowing conversions without kitchens this amendment creates a new problem for those that cannot afford market rate rent we are concerned that if passed this amendment will incentivize substandard affordable housing which will entrench the challenges faced by those it purports to serve we would support amendments a12 safe outdoor spaces and a 13 temporary campgrounds if they were changed to be conditional uses in mx zones we also noted the addition of amendments a18 and a20 publicly introduced one hour before their consideration at this committee's last meeting in the event they might be reintroduced we considered them at our board meeting on april 6th the board voted to support amendment a 20 intercoalition proposal for annual update process and are disappointed that this committee failed to consider it the board also voted to reiterate our strong opposition to a18 front yard wall height the epc voted unanimously against the amendment based on strong public opposition thank you our next speaker is peter kalitzus good evening um madam chair and committee members can you hear me first yes sir please proceed thank you uh my name is peter klitzes and i'm speaking on behalf of parkland hills neighborhood association and we are supporting comments by elder homestead neighborhood association and we submitted some written comments our comments related to a12 and a13 uh we request that can our non-residential zones be permissive as they would less likely create significant impact along with nob hill neighborhood association we agree we've requested mx be conditional use and also nrc is transitional be conditional use we support a12 option 2 to provide opportunities we recommended these changes so the residential zones are minimally impacted have the opportunity to provide input and become engaged when self safe outdoor spaces and temporary campgrounds are proposed for the area in making mx conditional versus permissive there's protection in place for our house constituents as well as on house we seek to serve we recognize that this is just going to get worse we need to provide um and one of the things that will be said by elder homestead is we would request that a maximum of two of these facilities be in each city council district uh so as to distribute the opportunities and the burden throughout the city thank you very much thank you our next speaker is patricia wilson madam chair counselors please listen to this portion of the whereas statements in this bill quote the city understands that predictability of zoning and compatibility of land use and zoning are essential in order to maintain and strengthen economic value and viability for property owners and businesses and to ensure appropriate and adequate protections for neighboring properties unquote i remind you that the epc's notice of decision spelled out the need for equitable distribution of locally unwanted land uses aptly called lulu's it says in part quote ensure that land uses that are objectionable to immediate neighbors but may be useful to society are located carefully and equitably to ensure that social assets are distributed more evenly unquote i implore council to require that at least one lulu be placed in every district before locating more in already overburdened districts also of the four amendments today only one a21 pre-application meetings could be considered a technical or textual amendment all of the others hotel conversions safe outdoor spaces and temporary campgrounds are substantive amendments the ido amendment drafted by the inter-coalition council would provide a metric for differentiating between technical and substantive amendments to echo what mr brasher said i hope we can continue this conversation at the next annual update thank you very much thank you our next speaker is sandra perea good evening madam chair and committee members my name is sandra perea and i'm the president and speaking on behalf of elder homestead neighborhood association and i support the comments made by parkland hills neighborhood association however long this housing crisis lasts we need to provide safe housing even if it's not permanent for our unhoused community members the following is recommended one facility should have oversight by formalized security or other supervision on a 24 7 on site not a choice of on-site or on-call which the proposed amendments do not have the 24-7 staffing would increase the safety for residents to go to the bathroom or take a shower without being accosted robbed raped or murdered and would encourage the most vulnerable to use these housing options two the separation distance between these facilities group homes and overnight shelters should be at least a half a mile and no more than two total of these facilities should be in each city council district three retain the proposed maximum trauma informed capacities of 40 and 30 per development for these facilities should not be placed adjacent to or within our city parks or outdoor public and open spaces and five these actions will ensure that each district takes on the responsibility of caring for the unhoused versus one district shouldering the burden this should be an issue we tackle together as our quote one albuquerque unquote mantra implies thank you thank you our next speaker is renee horvath uh good evening i hope you can hear me yes please proceed okay thank you uh thank you uh i sent in some comments yesterday and it mainly focused on what you probably will be talking about a lot situation but uh i'm speaking for myself because uh the normally with this type of topic in the past we've had meetings community meetings to brainstorm and talk about what's the best approach to take to it so i'm offering some ideas i realize you're trying to solve some homeless issues but i also don't want them to impact the neighborhoods or businesses so as i look at what we have already like the tiny homes i think it's a good concept but when you drive around the area and you see tent city outside the gates and a lot of trash it's not going to attract uh get support from the neighborhoods to have them right next door to them so i'm trying to offer some ideas of how we can make them more successful look at how we can improve them i did think with the hotel conversion i thought that we were originally talking about transitional uh housing to get people off the streets and into housing in a hotel you know rehab but we have it you know fix up the old vacant hotel make it work i thought that was a good idea but you're going the thing that i noticed you're going to have to have really good supervision monitoring things to make sure there's no problems with the tenants the app uh the businesses or the residents you've got to make this work and that's why people are saying we need a better process to kind of work out these problems so when you start approving where these are going to go in it's going to be it's going to work because if you look at the youtube videos some of these places work really good and some of them don't so we need to figure out why are they not working and why aren't some working so one of the great thank you your time is up thank you our next speaker is pig enough piggy i'm sorry i think i accidentally moved you back to an attendee so if you can come back in please good afternoon counselors colleagues thank you again for hosting public comment for the situation that we're in i really struggled this time to actually come before you i can't believe that you're actually considering these things substandard housing for our homeless populations allowing one group of people to do something and then not being not allowing other groups of people to do it because they have a different funding source all in the guise of protecting our communities from homeless people substandard housing should not be allowed in our city i urge you please do not do not even consider a2 i ask you to really consider that these are substantive issues the whole gap analysis that took many years to put together that put forward needs behavioral health services transitional housing guided interventions for this very vulnerable population that need more than a countertop and a bed space why are we doing this because we're driven a lot by the economics of people and not by the actual needs and availability of resources we need to integrate and and talk to each other and work together that's why we need to have a summary statement for each amendment we need to have a justification for each amendment we need an explanation of the benefits for each amendment we need examples of proposed changes you need summary statements of expected impacts and how many residents that the changes that you're putting on them how many will be affected and how many negatively will be affected by variances for all mobile homes associations we need all public comments to be put together in a comprehensive way so you can represent us we want you to represent us we want you to do the best thing we want to help improve the city but you aren't allowing us to help by allowing this ideal amendment process as it is substantive amendments your time is a process thank you our last speaker is jackie fishman all right thank you madam chair counselors i'm jackie fishman here from consensus planning and i just wanted to speak very briefly on a couple of the amendments uh one just to say that i support um a12 option one safe outdoor spaces i think it's it's a good change and i think it offers other options that shelters and group homes and all the other kind of facilities uh you know they they just don't work for everybody so i i think that's a good thing i also wanted to mention that i'm in support of a21 to the amendment to make prts voluntary i support the change based on the last four years of of my firm going through prts and waiting sometimes for five or six weeks to get them back only to get mostly generic information forms that don't actually respond to our questions and sometimes information we receive is an error i like that it would be voluntary but i would also add to that that i would ask more resources be provided to the planning department so that they can adequately do their jobs and i know they're overburdened i know they're short staffed and i think having more resources in that department would help this this process so thank you very much thank you madam sure that concludes public comments are there any other speakers thank you thank you uh councillors i think we're going to hear now a presentation from city staff city staff who may speak to this agenda item must be sworn in so city staff who may speak to this item please raise your right hand do you affirm under penalty of perjury that your testimony today will be true i do thank you thank you miss schultz please proceed uh thank you counselors um welcome to the third landy's planning and zoning committee meeting on the 2021 update to the integrated development ordinance um next slide please a quick reminder again of the timeline of how we got here today this process was kicked off in september of 2021 uh by the planning department who had been gathering potential amendments for uh review and decision those were disturbed distributed to the public for their consideration moving into october the department held public meetings and open houses on that proposed list for discussion and took feedback on that proposed list in december of 2021 that list of amendments was reviewed by the environmental planning commission they held one meeting on the matter and took public testimony and ultimately ended up recommending approval of the packet unanimously in february of 2022 the city council offices received the packet of amendments and it was placed on the letter of introduction to begin its process in the council review and adoption timeline that brings us to march and april where we have been spending a couple of our wednesdays here at the landis planning and zoning committee meetings considering not only what the epc recommended from their meeting in december but also any additional amendments or new amendments that counselors have put forth after this process concludes at the committee level the packet will go on to the full council the full council will then be considering everything that the epc has recommended from their december hearing in addition to anything that this committee chooses to recommend for approval and at that time counselors will also be able to put forth additional amendments at the full council process next slide um i'll remind you that when the epc held their meeting in december they were considering two separate applications you may have noticed that we've been holding public comment uh separately in kind of two bundles one of those applications is specific to a small mapped area in the integrated development ordinance any changes to a small mapped area have to have kind of a more explicit review and adoption process so those are considered separately that would be the cannabis prohibitions in old town that i will review in just a moment and then the second and larger bucket are general city-wide changes to the ido which can be considered and reviewed by the council legislatively next slide please um i will review the again again for you the proposed changes to the old town hpo5 next slide um the update this year proposes to prohibit the three cannabis related uses in the integrated development ordinance within the old town hp05 on the screen you'll see that kind of blue map anything within that blue boundary is the old town boundary this proposal is to prohibit cannabis retail cannabis cultivation and cannabis derived products manufacturing the epc uh considered this request as a part of their december 2021 hearing and generally heard support for the request through public comment and unanimously ended up um recommending approval to the city council for those changes a lot lying to longline next line please one more thank you um so next moving on to the citywide changes my presentation tonight is going to focus on amendments that committee members have chosen to put forth at the march 30th committee meeting the committee did vote to approve or otherwise deal with about a dozen amendments so what's before you tonight is about five amendments for discussion that the committee may choose to act on or not but my presentation tonight will focus only on those that are up for discussion this evening next slide moving on to amendment a2 at the march 30th landy's planning and zoning committee meeting there were three options presented to you for this amendment related to the conversion of non-residential uses to residential uses what you'll find in your packet tonight is only one version of this amendment that does a couple of things with this proposal first it retains the requirement that these projects have to be associated with city funding through the department of family and community services that was part of the conversation at the last committee um hearing um to reiterate it it reduces the requirement for a full range stove or oven that is to say that a hot plate a microwave a toaster oven some kind of much smaller heating element for for cooking food would meet the requirement for a kitchen and as far as the idea was concerned um this amendment requires that 40 hours of on-site service coordination be provided um i think the idea here is that these this these housing developments would be for low-income residents who might need support services and so this amendment kind of bakes in 40 hours a week of those support services on sites and lastly there are some occupancy requirements for these these particular developments where it's a non-residential conversion to residential uses with city affordable housing dollars of two people per efficiency unit two people per one bedroom unit and four people per two bedroom units madam chair that's that's my overview of amendment a2 if it's the pleasure of the committee to vote on amendments as i present them we can do that or i can go through the presentation as a whole and we can vote after the fact counselors do you have a preference on this counselor david uh madam chair from way in the corner if it's okay i would ask that the council or the committee try to take care of the cannabis amendments up front so that i can rejoin the conversation for the other matters thank you councillor davis uh councillors um would you like to take a vote on that all in favor of councillor davis's proposition say yes and raise your hand please yes that would be fine let's take care of the cannabis issues first madam chair i do not have any cannabis amendments in my packet if there is a counselor who is interested in proposing a cannabis amendment we could do that at this time councilor feeblecorn you madam chair i i just think that um councilor davis was referring to the old town prohibition that he is excusing himself from and so uh i don't believe that there's actually a separate vote on that it's it's in the bill is that correct so i don't believe we'll be voting on that separately this evening madam chair counselor feeble corn yes um the ordinance as a whole contains both the changes to old town and all of the general city-wide changes as well it's all wrapped into one bill thank you council feeblecorn thank you said this means that councillor davis may rejoin us thank you councillor davis counselor basan madam chair i think it would behoove us to go ahead and go one by one through these and have the presentation and then some discussion so that we don't end up getting confused in the process counselor prasanna i agree 100 please proceed madam chair um with that said i'll stand for any questions on amendment a2 related to the conversion of non-residential uses to residential uses that's my that's my full presentation for that amendment thank you counselors are there any questions counselor basan madam chair thank you uh so the term substandard i get that we're trying to make amendments so that we can ensure this is not substantive but i is this something that we're going to consider substandard even if it's a you know i mean like there's still a bathroom and there's still so i don't believe that this is necessarily a substandard dwelling to begin with but the fact that we want to make it more inhabitable for a long term is what we're trying to do and i'm hoping that you can help me just clarify there's some concerns in the public that we're trying to move people into a substandard unit and i don't i don't think that's the case madam chair councillor bassan um if if one were to use the term substandard that should be speaking pretty directly to the building code and requirements within the building code there is nothing proposed in this amendment that would conflict with the building code and all other requirements of the building code would still be required so i don't think that the use of the term substandard is quite accurate here madam chair yes counselor thank you uh so this might be for director i see director pierce and i see ms hogan here um i'm curious what we what what does family and community have about this their their opinion about making sure that we i mean in my opinion we have to do something in albuquerque we have to do something and we have to do maybe a lot of different things um so to me i really think that this is a really great first step in one avenue there's many other avenues but i'm wondering director have do you imagine there are some unhoused individuals who would gladly take affordable housing dollars from the city of albuquerque and live in a renovated motel space with a hot plate even though it's not a full stove um councilor jones and councillor bassan thank you for your question um absolutely right now we need to do whatever we can to create more housing options for our unhoused neighbors and i think we've had experience now with the covid experience of having quite a few people in hotels and these hotels don't have kitchens or hot plates and so we the city provide those services food services for people we've we've learned a lot in that experience when we were in denver last summer to look at safe outdoor spaces we also looked what the city of denver did very effectively in a very short turnaround time to acquire hotels and to make that living spaces for people and not even transitional i just do want to comment on the transitional i mean transitional these would be really homes for people until whatever's next for them sometimes people that that's their home that would be their place we've seen this work very effectively and we do think by um acquiring hotels we can respond to the housing need a little bit more quickly and i do think it's important to know we still as a community as a city want to continue to build affordable housing this won't stop any of our other projects but those projects do take time and so we think this is a really important way to connect people the the amendment has um the the hours for support help for people and i think that's a really important piece to assist people that might use the housing thank you director madam chair one more yes counselor thank you so i have a follow-up comment to that um i'm i consider myself and i'm well aware that i'm very privileged and blessed and there was a time in my life where i cooked on a hot plate because that's just what i did i don't think that it was substandard or a punishment of any sorts and so to me to say that we might pass up the opportunity to renovate a motel or a location so that we can actually house individuals because of the option of being able to potentially bake or cook a full full more formal meal i think that that would be a shame so i am absolutely in support of this amendment thank you counselors any other questions in that case i believe we will take a vote madam chair we need a motion and a second uh to begin with i would make a motion for a do pass on a2 there is a motion in a second if you would call the vote please madam chair we no longer have to do roll call votes and so if the committee would just like to you know say aye and raise their hand that would be sufficient got it all those in favor say aye and raise your hand aye motion carries thank you thank you councillors um floor amendment one passes on a five to zero vote uh next slide please and i believe that um [Music] i'm sorry say again um madam chair i will begin my presentation on amendment a12 thank you a12 relates to a new land use in the ido called safe outdoor spaces this amendment has been discussed at the previous two land use planning and zoning committee meetings and has continued to evolve since that time in your packet tonight you will find three options for this amendment for members of the public what the what staff published last week was two options there is there's now a third option that will be placed on the abc dash zone website website.com website likely tomorrow or friday counselors i'd like to kind of just go through the distinction between all three of the options and then open it up for discussion on which option might be moved by any counselor so option one is kind of what i would refer to as the base version as it was proposed on march 30th this version proposes the zoning districts in which a safe outdoor space would be appropriate it creates some provisions for religious institutions who might be doing a safe outdoor space creates distance separation requirements between residential zone districts with low-density residential developments it outlines the maximum number of designated spaces and the maximum occupancy so the number of spaces and the number of people occupying those spaces in any given safe outdoor space development it institutes a distance separation requirement for large safe outdoor spaces from another large safe outdoor space crates requirements for water flush toilets and hand washing stations create some prohibitions to say that those water or i'm sorry those toilets and hand washing station stations and the designated spaces must be set back a certain amount of feet from the property lines um when abutting residential uses and mixed-use zone district districts excuse me it implements screening wall and screening requirements of six feet so if you're doing a safe outdoor space around those designated spaces there would need to be a six foot tall vegeta opaque wall fence or vegetative screen it would require a management plan or a security agreement in place for the property that would indicate on-site or on-call support 24 hours a day seven days a week there's a requirement for social services to be offered on the premise and there's an example of what some of those social services are in the amendments and lastly it would create a definition in the ido for what a safe outdoor space is so that's that's kind of the base version as it was proposed at the march 30th meeting i'll now discuss discuss option two labeled as such in your packet the only distinction between option one and option two is that the wall the six foot opaque wall fence or vegetative screen requirement would not be required for a safe outdoor space if that safe outdoor space is accommodating folks in light vehicles or rvs another way to say this is if the safe outdoor space is doing tents if they're accommodating tents they would still have to do the screening but if they're just doing vehicles and rvs then the screening would not be required the distinction between option three and the base version is that there's a requirement for on-site security or management the the option one says on-site or on-call this would require on-site um a safe outdoor space would be prohibited adjacent to major public open space major public open space is a defined term in the ido and those are mapped areas in the city um in option three a safe outdoor space would be conditional in the mxm and mxh zone options one and two both have those as permissive in mxm and mxh so this would be conditional here option three implements a requirement for showers as i mentioned there's a requirement for hand washing stations and toilets but not showers and options one and two option three would require showers and the last addition to option three is there would be a maximum of five safe outdoor spaces per city council district options one and two do not have a maximum cap per district with that i would stand for any questions about the distinction between any of the the three options thank you counselors are there any questions madam chair i have yes councillor sanchez um there's a couple of things that that kind of concerned me and i know i'm going to go see a safe outdoor space this next week so i have still have a few issues with it but one of the things is i like the i like councillor davis's amendment in reference to making sure that we have security but i think we should have not one but at least three security cards per per safe outdoor space and the reason why is because i think these are allowing drinking and possible drug use if they're inside the space so that's something that that concerns me i think that we should actually instead of just doing i think we should do one trial safe outdoor space instead of having just going all out i think it'd be nice to know whether whether one's going to work we could work out the bugs and then decide to throw money at it at that point um i think it's just important that that we do keep the screen wall um the entire time i think it's important that we have the screening if somebody wants you know that way it actually keeps any anybody from seeing in or out and i think it's it's it's very very a very very good thing um another thing i think that should happen in reference to this is i think it'd be very important to have community meetings in reference to the community that's going to be placed and right now we don't even know what communities these are going to be placed in we know that they're going to be placed in more commercial areas but i think it's really important that we actually have a good knowledge of where these are going to be placed so that we can actually speak to those communities before we go ahead and and do the whole thing i think if we get right down to it we can always amend it and i think that if we start anywhere it should be maybe one per district and see if they actually worked or even one trial to see if that one trial works i just think that our society throws a lot of money at a lot of different things but we don't even know for a fact if the individuals will even want to go in there i mean we can say they will they'll say they will but when reality hits we don't know exactly what's going to happen and and to me you know i've had a lot of experience out dealing with with individuals who are homeless and some of you have heard me say this before is individuals with severe mental illness individuals with drug addiction severe drug addiction and alcohol addiction these people are the strongest survivors out there and they've learned how to feed themselves they've learned how to clothe themselves take baths they've learned how to do everything that re that's required to live but i know for a fact that i couldn't live that lifestyle because that's not what i do but they choose to do this based on financial based on their mental capacity and based on their physical well-being one of the things about the homeless society is that it's littered with with extortion drug trafficking human trafficking unchecked crime unchecked violent crime and i just think that we need to really really be cautious when we deal with this and there's a lot of people that need the help but we need to get rid of the bad actors that control these scenarios and then why i put in my opinion they're the ones that caused the biggest issue because if somebody's in control 100 in control then it's the same thing that happens in prison they control the guards they control the individuals who are running the the situation and then at that point you have a situation that is not working and it's not functional the way it's meant to be so it's going to be it's going to be a very very difficult situation to to manage and to get a whole and keep control of so i think that um it should i think we should go on a trial basis of of just one and um and i think it should also state that um we shouldn't have any of these near near parks where they can actually feed over into a park and then start taking over that space if it's a public park where children play thank you counselors councilor davis uh madam chair to get our conversation started and thank you councilor sanchez um you referenced it so uh madam chair i think i'd like to make a motion to adopt uh option three so that we have a discussion item to move forward with i'll second that um man i'm sure if i can just explain and then maybe counselor basane can and respond to some of the counselor sanchez's concerns um i appreciate it i don't as you know i don't normally sit in this committee uh but um i we heard so many of the public comments this evening i think this this amendment addresses that including some uh pieces that have been uh included along the way uh nothing was excluded here i think it was all incorporating the different developments as we've understood more uh specifically i think this is a good compromise um i i might to my my my good friend from the west side i think the i think your point about community meetings is right i think that's why we should make these conditional use in our mx zone some of our central corridor business corridor is mx that means that in those areas that would require those community meetings if they could be adjacent to some of those other areas so i think we've we have tried to address that i think that could be useful and we'll be happy to discuss whether how we move forward with that if we were able to move this out to the full council if we need to tweak that some um and uh and as far as the trials go um i do think there's a need for this certainly i appreciate i think there's a cap here on purpose to be sure that no area is overburdened with a new project that we haven't yet developed but uh but also giving some flexibility for the private market to figure out where this goes and how that works i'd love to talk to you about how to do that i wonder and i want to ask staff if it's more appropriate to address that concern whether in the ido we should limit that to one say per year or a trial per year or if that's better done in the budget where we've got some some limits on how to do that i hate to put sort of limits and trials in the ido because it's a planning document for long-term purposes but how could we address some of those questions um while giving people the option to put these where the mark where where the need is best madam chair um counselor davis thanks for the question not all of these safe outdoor spaces will be publicly funded these will be available for private development so while it could be a good approach to think about this in our city budget that wouldn't address the privately funded ones thank you and madam chair i think we i think this is a good start and it brings everybody together and certainly gives us something this committee can move forward to the full council to address everyone's additional questions thank you thank you councillor febilcorn okay okay counselor madam chair thank you so let me start with a question that i think is easy does this requirement um for this one include a plumbed shower madame chair counselor bassan it's silent on whether that shower is plumbed or maybe more portable in nature so i think you could do either okay and and madame chair uh so i'm really excited to be here tonight because i think this is a really valuable conversation and i don't normally sit on this committee either but you know going back to what i was saying earlier about you know we need to make change now and we need to do something now in albuquerque um in in many different facets uh so just just like with the previous amendment um i agree with really all of what you're saying and what we're hearing because that's the idea is that there's not going to be a size fits all with this so i'm going to kind of read through my convoluted notes here but you know when i think about limiting it to even one per year i think that we're really really really amazing at over legislating ourselves and setting limits before we even know how to begin so i would be concerned with doing that sort of a thing but that being said i also want to make sure everyone hears me and everyone listening at home that i am i i think there are two particular districts in albuquerque that are really sharing a bunch of the burden currently and so you know district 6 and district 9 are really doing a big lift right now and i think that it is very important that we look into sharing that load for the rest of the city and including in district four really people are mad right now people are mad about a homeless situation they're mad whether they're business owners whether they're residents whether they go to a park and play probably as the unhoused so to me probably we're going to be making people mad no matter what we do here but i think it's a great idea to start with an idea so doing these safe outdoor spaces i think is still honestly really exciting but very formal like this is this is a lot of regulation too so i'm in support of it but i definitely want to keep talking about other ideas on how we even get to that point in the next year or two or maybe even next month um and i've talked about it with many people and i will continue planning on talking about it but i think that this is this is really cool because we have the idea of renovating motels we have the idea of maybe potentially you know housing vouchers and and some human human discrimination ordinances and then we have now we're talking about safe outdoor spaces you know the county's trying to work a couple steps back and then move a little bit forward on the tiny homes we're still we have gateway whether you like it or not we have it now we own it so let's do something with it we have an amendment here and i'm gonna go into kind of option two this amendment that is saying no offenses on property if you're gonna live in a vehicle or live in an rv fine something we have to do something and these are ideas let's try it let's try it because we're already mad we're probably going to get a little bit madder but then if we don't try anything it's just going to continue getting worse but if we try something we're going to start seeing something else better happen thank you council fbi corn no question okay uh we have a motion in a second on councillor davis's uh amendment councillor davis would you like to close urge your support there's a motion in a second let's take the role let's all we're not doing that tonight sorry guys i'm never going to remember that all those in favor say yes yes opposed motion carries thank you madam chair floor amendment number two passes on a four to one vote thank you okay next slide and next i would like to make a motion for a do pass of amendment option two can we do that a12 option two we already had a motion in a second on option three so we can't do an option too as well um madam chair counselor bassan options one two and three are kind of conflicting options um not all three of them can pass so do we not have to vote on the one that has a motion in a second we did we did madam chair i'm wondering if i can ask a question of staff regarding this though of course absolutely thank you madam chair so how do we go about making sure that we can also amend in the idea that there is not a requirement for fencing if people are going to be living in a vehicle or rvs because i think that's very important as well thank you madam chair and councilor bassan either now at committee or at full council there would need to be a motion to reconsider the amendment that passed and then that amendment would need to be amended to strike any or change any language um as desired by the committee councilor davis and then counselor feeble corn council foreign knows it better than i do thank you madam chair i just wanted to clarify that in option three that we just voted on that um provision from option two is in option three and so um we are saying in option three that if you have a safe parking spot um that that does not require the six-foot fence and this is why i don't sit in last minute at meetings thank you very much everyone madam chair counselor feeble corn that is not correct um option three does still require fencing for all types of safe outdoor spaces so um i'm looking at the version that was passed out to me on the second page 4-3 c9f the area containing designated spaces for tents shall be screened on all sides by an opaque wall or fence or vegetative screen of at least six foot high madam chair counselor feeble corn my error i'm sorry you are correct that is in there yay thank you well did you do it better than i did councillor davis we're fine now okay we have taken the vote we are fine are we going to change this now let's leave it alone all right thank you counselors thank you staff um next we have counselor basan we're finished with yours also we've got it all put together counselor davis for counselor benton a 13. madam chair if it pleases the chair i'd like to ask staff to do a presentation before we make a motion on this item um thank you madam chair counselors a13 would create a new land use in the ido called temporary campgrounds um this land use would look very similar to the to what a safe outdoor space would look like was with a couple of distinctions um i think the first major distinction is where these would be allowed where as you just voted to make safe outdoor spaces conditional in the mixed-use zones temporary campgrounds would be permissive in all of the mixed-use zones so that's the first major distinction the second would be the temporary nature of temporary campgrounds in that safe outdoor space would be considered a permanent land use a temporary campground would be able to operate for a time period of one year with a potential for a one-year extension so a possible maximum of two years at which point that temporary campground would need to you know close down and move elsewhere in the city um [Music] at this point with the changes that were made to safe outdoor spaces those are the two major distinctions between temporary campgrounds and safe outdoor spaces temporary campgrounds still require bathrooms and hand washing stations and showers much like safe outdoor spaces there are kind of density limits on how many occupants and how many tents could occup could occupy a temporary campground the screening requirements are still in place for temporary campgrounds that six foot high wall or fence an on-site management or a security company would also be required much like safe outdoor spaces as well but that'll stand for any questions thank you counselors any questions madam sure madam chair if it pleases the rest of the committee i would actually prefer that the committee take no action on this item so that the full council could consider it uh my reason being i'm sitting in for the sponsor i understand the sponsor may not object to that um so we could have more discussion but i think there's definitely a need for this this is a bridge we're talking about all the options on the table this is a bridge to the permanent outdoor spaces we've made enhance them based on input from uh council sanchez and others and folks to make them better and more usable i think this sort of transition piece this temporary piece needs a little more work and input from the community about how it would work but i do think we should do it um and so it would be my preference that this committee take no action today move it to full council so that could be part of that discussion about the outdoor spaces we just passed so i won't make a motion counselors any comment council feeble queen i just have a process question um it's my understanding that each of these amendments that we pass goes to council as one package how would a an amendment that is not passed through lups make it to council madam chair counselor feeble corn it would be presented the text would kind of be copied into a floor amendment at city council as opposed to being in a committee amendment format at committee thank you thank you do i hear a motion if not i would make a motion to move this to full council madam chair i believe counselor davis's request was that no motion be made on amendment a 13. leave it where it is is everyone okay on that all right thank you okay uh that brings us to our final amendment next slide thank you this is amendment a 21. this proposes to remove the requirement for pre-application review team meetings also called prts prts existed prior to the ido and were brought into the ideo as a requirement for many development application types um these are meetings between the applicant and the city it's a very preliminary style discussion that is non-binding in any way it's an opportunity for an applicant especially one who is maybe not familiar with the city processes for development to sit down with staff and say i want to do x on my property can you help me understand how i accomplish that and city staff kind of walks them through the ido and says well here are the provisions that would be applicable to you here are the review and decision bodies that you would have to go before and then the applicant walks away with that knowledge and then goes on to decide if they want to submit an application to the city or not these are purely informational again only between the applicant and the city i think the counselors and staff received quite a few emails over the last week that there was some concern that this amendment would be reducing the interaction required between the applicant and any um applicable neighborhood association or or coalition or property owner and i just want to reiterate that this amendment is only changing the requirements for those meetings that are required between the applicant and the city so any of the pre-application meetings where the neighbor or i'm sorry the applicant is required to reach out to the applicable neighborhood association um and say would you like to have a meeting about this project that will still be required the notice as set forth in the ido and the neighborhood association recognition ordinance those are all still required this is only the meeting between the applicant and the city prts would still be available to applicants who so wish to have one just the requirement that they be conducted before an application can be accepted by the city would go away so if someone still wants those preliminary questions instill that preliminary time with the city to ask questions about the process those would still be available but for some of our you know more seasoned developers who don't need to come in and ask those questions they wouldn't be required to do that any longer staff did receive some comments from the planning department about this amendment and if it's the pleasure of the chair i might ask director varela if he would be open to providing some of those comments yes if you would please thank you and uh committee chair members of the council thank you very much i think we can get to the same result but we'd like a little bit of time to work with the development community on the word smithing on this because we don't want to inadvertently for example delete all references to what a prt is in the ido what i've found over the last several months is that as new mexico is being discovered by outdoor uh developers i'm out of state developers excuse me and we're getting more and more of those calls they go straight to the ido for their guide as to everything they could possibly do and if we don't even mention the existence of prts and we'll put in there that they're optional then i think that we could inadvertently be miscommunicating with people so we can get to the same place we want to get with this we don't disagree with making them voluntary rather than mandatory at all but we would appreciate the opportunity to perhaps have this not voted on right now but instead presented at council in a uh a better worded version of it that doesn't accidentally throw out the baby with the bath water so to speak thank you councillor sanchez thank you i the reason we did this is because we just wanted to kind of get rid of the red tape it's just real simple we wanted to make sure that that those that know how to do it just go ahead and do it those that need the prt then at that point they can go ahead and and ask for it so i don't have a problem with that i just think it's really important that we um just loosen up the reins a little bit make sure that that those people that need it can actually get it through thank you uh councillor bassan and then councillor davis madam chair so just to be very very clear with people that are watching this is not a louis sanchez amendment that is going to kill the building of the north domingo baca aquatic center it has never been that thank you counselor it is it is not going to do that it is not going to even impede any of that so the misinformation is out there this amendment is simply actually putting something back pre-ido which i feel like a lot of people that we're hearing from that would would be on opposition of us killing the idea of north dakota would prefer so we're simply saying we want to offer more choice on an educational process at the very front end of it and i think that it's very important for us to be clear with that because we're not lowering the expectation of communication with the public we're not eliminating the ability for transparency and involvement if anything we're probably i was told we might even be able to build the north domingo baka aquatic center five weeks faster so for those of you that that's like what you're really going for with this there's that but i think that we should we should again stop over regulating ourselves and requiring things that have become so cumbersome they are delaying development for single single home property owners not just big development this is this is really like literally something that we can do to help streamline a process and make it better for albuquerque while still educating those people who need the help and request it and i'm i'm fine with waiting so that we don't throw a baby out with the bath water thank you counselor kelsey davis uh thank you madam chair and i'm fine with waiting too but uh to to put a finer point on the future conversation director if you know or if you could help us a little bit um i do you know just off the top of your head or anecdotally sort of what percentage of like of the maybe conditional use or variances for example are abandoned by a potential applicant after they understand get an opportunity for a prt and really understand the rules and the law in the process do we have any information or just anecdotal about that i actually was going to do a subdivision myself several years ago before i came to the city i went through the process i learned what all was involved and i concluded that it wasn't commercially worth it for me so i can tell you right now that i benefited from one of those where i learned early rather than going months and months into the process i don't have specific statistics for you on those but i imagine a lot of people have had that same uh beneficial experience of getting that advice up front uh madam chair and director thank you that actually i know it's anecdotal their stories for everything including strange emails about things that don't happen and aren't real but no i do think this process is actually useful i think it's one of the better things that happened out of the ido process because it required everybody to start talking to each other earlier in the process not to force somebody to abandon something or force somebody to have a meeting they didn't want to have but just to be sure that everybody really knows what the process was and early in the ido i think this was really important because a lot of this was new or people who were doing this for a long time had been doing it a certain way and that's no longer the way and they were investing a lot of time effort and energy and the process that we wouldn't accept and so you know i think i would be interested in looking at or having someone evaluate [Music] maybe not throwing the whole thing and making it all optional i think there's some of these that are pretty big that need discussions no matter how many times you've done it because you really do get insight from staff about where is this neighborhood and what are their interests that don't show up in black and white often um but also um you know some of these cookie cutter projects we see from out of state are great because it's outside investment coming to our city um but those don't always adapt to our process um so i'm not 100 for for throwing it all out but i would be really interested in hearing how the sponsor and the department could figure out a better process um that said madam chair one last question director i i recall from uh our budget hearings and and we're gonna have more that the department's asking for 20 something plus or minus new ftes um and i think that's important because the planning department has been way under staffed and takes longer than we would all like to get through some things that we would like them to do and i know they're busy how many of those folks are dedicated to a process like plan review in this process and how are those folks for other things in other words if we just resource the planning department appropriately this seems to me that this is more about a timely response from the city then an objection to having a review it seems like the objections i've heard have been just that the the answers take a long time so is this a resource question or is it just a process question and there's like six questions in my question commit committee chair jones and uh and council davis the frustration has been the fact that they're taking too long to get scheduled in addition to the fact that they have become what i call a you know a light version as opposed to the more detailed version where you have the people there with the expertise and i think that's a function of shortage of staff and people just trying to get some folks together to give the best information they can at the time as opposed to having the depth of knowledge from a more robust team which is what we're asking for in order to make these more meaningful so that the answers are correct as opposed to maybe somebody up there saying listen i've got to crank these things out and so i can't go into the research that i should be going into in order to give you a valid uh piece of advice so it's uh it's by and large a resource issue uh i think that everybody recognizes that the development review and approval process in albuquerque is complicated it is perhaps less complicated than some other cities maybe santa fe for example where almost everything's historic and it's and it's much more difficult but it's certainly more complicated than it's going to be and i've been telling people now for several months we have two choices we either lower our standards which i don't think anybody advocates and those that includes all those protections uh or we uh beef up the staff so that we can provide the sort of expert guidance that people really need to get through the process because we all want to foster smart growth in albuquerque and we certainly know that we need the economic development so long as it's done as a way that maintains the protections and the safeguards for the uh you know our way of life here the and the other uh you know neighborhood feel that we want to keep in albuquerque thank you madam chair thank you director and given that choice put me in the more resources bucket i think we have a good set of rules and i think we can do better to resource that better so that folks can get a better answer quicker and have staff that have more time to lend their expertise instead of just having to check a box or trying to move a lot up forward so i appreciate that i can't wait to see how this comes back to us thank you are there any other questions council fevicorn thank you madam chair um i'll just kind of piggyback on on what councilor davis was saying i've met with developers i've gotten a lot of emails on this and except for the ones that told me that we were trying to get rid of counselor basan's pool every single one of them said the problem was not with prts it was with the problems that they're having getting the prts to be useful for developers and so i think the answer it makes more sense to me to fix our internal problems to keep prts in place since everyone seems to universally agree that they're useful both for the city and for the developers so i i am going to agree with councillor davis the answer here is that we need to adequately resource the planning department and make sure that we're able to provide this service to developers in a way that that really facilitates good good interaction and and good projects thank you thank you councillors councillor bassan madam chair so counselor feeble corner also to to echo kind well to play devil's advocate to that actually i think that there's some concern because what if you come what if you what if you have to what council davis was saying like a cookie cutter development here in albuquerque done in albuquerque years and years all the same things and because we have a requirement for a meeting now you have to wait two or three more weeks because you're in the queue just for just for formality's sake and because we're legislating that to me that's where i think it's really beneficial to say that it's by request so that way those people that need the help that want the help we can make sure to maybe beef up some of the education process that the help is there if requested but to me i i just and i hear that we're going to hear more about like a middle ground on this with the verbiage and what we may choose to do but by requiring it all together i think that we have created a huge problem for those people who are very very well versed in what they're doing here and it's just costing time and money for again like single property owners or big developers and everyone in between so to me it's like well if you know what you're doing and you don't want help cool go get your application go fill this out go through the process go go see what you need to do meet with the water authority meet with everybody and if you struggle ask for one of these meetings and the city and the planning department's willing to help out with that thank you councillor bassani any other comments councilor sanchez thank you madam chair i just wanted to say that it's it's just i think we're going to meet middle ground anyway um based on what we're saying um but i think it's just going to be an excellent process to for someone that already knows it um if they if they know it then why can't we just let them do it um you said yourself that scheduling was was kind of a little bit of an issue and if scheduling is an issue and it holds back progress then and somebody knows what they're doing um maybe there's a check box where they can say i know what i'm doing and or i know that i need the prt and maybe there's a couple other check boxes that actually state prove that you know and you know maybe we have a couple of little little ways to fix that as well so i think we're going to be you know in a good situation once uh once council services sits with you i think we'll be able to to work and iron those out so that we can actually make sure that the people that are ready to move forward can move forward timely so i i just really think it's something that's going to help all of us all of albuquerque thank you and was that your clothes counselor yes that's my clothes uh there's a motion in a second on a20 oh we're just reviewing it so we move on we'll send this to staff or do uh to on forward so it does say we need a vote on the final bill as amended so oh 10 as amended i move approval of 010 as amended there's a motion in a second counselors any discussion all those in favor of counseling thank you madam chair i'll just go on record again as saying that the old town prohibition is something that i do not support i think that the state legislation was very very clear that individual jurisdictions are not allowed to opt out of the cannabis regulation act and there are cities and towns that are smaller than the old town overlay and so and there the idea that um a part of town is so special that they can go against the state law um you know there are lots of parts of the city and lots of parts of this state that also have historic value and um and are you know have all the same arguments that we're using for this and so i would i do not support this part of the bill and i just wanted to put that on record again for the 15th time thank you counselor so it's my understanding at this point since we have no other amendments here that we should move this onto full council therefore i'll make a motion to um i have a quick question yes but there's no pass on it we just make a motion to move it to full council madam chair um there is already a motion and a second on the floor to move the bill to full council so at this point you just need to take a vote i have a quick question i just want to make sure is it we're talking about all the amendments that we just dealt with today madam chair councillor sanchez the package that would get moved to full council tonight would include all the amendments that the epc recommended approving in december all the amendments that the committee voted affirmatively on on march 30th and any amendments that the committee voted affirmatively on tonight as well that all would move to the full council okay thank you all those in favor raise your hand and say yes yes opposed motion carries thank you next we'll go to b17 counselor davis uh madam chair on behalf of the sponsor counselor ben i would move a dude pass on 17. o17 designates the barelas community center as a city landmark there's a motion in a second are there any comments any discussion counselors do we have anyone else signed up to speak all right there's a motion in a second all those in favor say yes matt yes madam chair um i believe that there is one amendment in the packet for this resolution i apologize i think i was supposed to do that and i'm not sure i know what it is but i do move the amendment in the packet yes i think we need to make a motion for reconsideration all those in favor say yes yes opposed motion carries counselor davis i apologize uh madam chair i think that was on me um on behalf of counselor ben i would move amendment number i guess one two oh seventeen and i'll ask miss because my eyes aren't on uh miss schultz would you tell us what it says i can't see that far sure thing madam chair counselor davis um this amendment proposes to revise section four of the ordinance um that typically talks about how ordinances are compiled into our code of ordinances instead this would direct that compilation language to instead reflect changes to our official zoning map so moved council feeblecorn okay there's a motion in a second all those in favor raise your hand and signify all those in favor say yes yes opposed motion carries thank you and now the bill madam chair and now the bill has amended i will all those in favor say yes yes opposed motion carries thank you next counselor feeblecorn r 230. thank you madam chair this is r230 designating the menaul metropolitan redevelopment area making certain findings and conclusions pursuant to the metropolitan redevelopment code and authorizing and directing the city to prepare a metropolitan redevelopment plan for the manaal metropolitan redevelopment area i'll move it to pass there's a second by councillor davis any questions any comment council feeble corn would you like to say more i'll just say that anyone who's been on the section of menaul between you know carlisle and the interstate knows that it is an area of particular interest this would be a really great opportunity for that part of town to really get some redevelopment and get some some attention that is much needed so i would just urge your support on this designation thank you and i understand we have some public comment madam chair yes we have uh jackie fishman's i think has a short presentation but before that we do have a couple public commenters as well so our first speaker will be rhiannon samuel hello again hello again rhiannon samuel executive director of naiop new mexico we support the designation of the manoa metropolitan redevelopment area we believe that mrs are a valuable tool in supporting positive value-added development while downsizing some of the risk for developers thank you thank you our next speaker is trevor selby good evening committee members i'm trevor salby right now my pronouns are they them and he him i am a resident of district seven and i'm someone who's dependent on public transit to travel tonight i am here to support the designation of the menaul area as a redevelopment area as outlined in r230 furthermore i'm here to share concerns stipulations and perceived opportunities held by the communities i represent which includes environmentalists cyclists public transit users youth and the working poor it's been proposed that this designation could result in a new police substation for the unsheltered bipod queer and poor communities this is a potential hazard so without policies that promote economic opportunities and rehabilitation criminal behaviors will simply relocate exasperate and be met with police violence this is why i propose this designation is used to improve social services public transit visibility community connections and other developments such demand developments could set a precedent for the city with respect to this council's time i invite my representative councilor feeble corn and district 2's representative councillor benton who i know is absent tonight to further discuss my community's concerns and stipulations please pass r230 to provide much needed investment in albuquerque's residence and infrastructure thank you thank you sir are there any other comments madam chair that'll conclude public comments but if the chair would like jackie fishman is on zoom for a presentation if you like to hear from her okay sorry i couldn't understand you okay good evening jackie good evening thank you madam chair counselors jackie fishman with consensus planning uh we were the the firm that was the city hired to do the menaul redevelopment project i'm going to share my screen if i could let's see can you see my screen or let's see there we go madam chair jackie no there it goes okay there we go one second please okay so um as you probably know um since i was here uh several months ago for our initial report this is a three-phase project phase one study was completed for the area bounded by candelaria to the north i-40 to the south san mateo to the east and i-25 to the west that initial study focused on non-residential properties and issues related to vacant buildings and properties deteriorated conditions and crime changing retail trends and transportation systems the phase one report was approved by city council in november of last year phase two which is where we're at tonight includes a designation of a sub area which is on my screen as a metropolitan redevelopment area that's why we're here today we presented the designation report to the albuquerque development commission in february and we received a recommendation of approval to council phase three will involve the preparation of a mra plan but in doing our initial study in the proposed designation report we found numerous buildings and structures throughout the menaul area that were vacant and deteriorating through a variety of factors and that includes a lack of ongoing investment in disinvestment crime issues and to some extent access changes to the interstate system we also found deteriorated site conditions and those include accumulation of trash weeds and inoperable vehicles damaged or missing signs damaged pavement missing sidewalks the bus stops are in in pretty poor condition as well we don't have street trees or parking lot landscaping that that newer development has also a lot of evidence of graffiti on the vacant buildings we also found low levels of commercial activity and that includes lease rates in the area are well below the average for the albuquerque retail submarket so i i worked with a couple commercial brokers in in the community to to do that analysis commercial activity is heavily influenced by safety issues and challenges with homeless people and then the combined lack of ongoing investment in these aging retail properties lack of of major activity generation and safety issues has really made the manal corridor less desirable for commercial development i i drive manal every day i live in in the you know near north valley by the river my main east-west corridor and it's just getting worse and worse and worse lastly we did throughout the project meet with with business owners in the area they've expressed a very strong level of frustration with the existing conditions and they've said you know things don't change soon they may consider divesting in the area by selling their properties so i i would urge your support for this designation we can get started on on the plan right away and i would just thank you for your listening to me tonight thank you mr fisherman any questions uh petra obviously you want to speak with us madam chair councillors i just wanted to let you know that i'm available if you have any questions um jackie's given you guys a great overview on this um once the designation report moves on to uh full council and and assuming it's approved then as jackie mentioned we can move on with moving into working on the plan and that's where we would look at specifics such as whether a police um substation would be a good recommendation or not whether would be good opportunities for opportunity sites and other recommendations all of those go into the actual plan and so this is just the boundaries so i'm available for any questions thank you miss morris counselors are there any questions i think we're we're ready for now thank you thank you are there any other speakers madam chair there is a motion on the second on the on the floor so all we need is a vote at this point all those in favor raise your hand and say yes yes opposed motion carries thank you i believe that concludes our meeting for this evening thanks for everyone who was patient with us it's a little difficult when we do all these different ways but we'll get it thank you good night you