Wichita City Council Meeting May 13, 2025
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heat Heat Good morning Witchah and welcome to City Hall
We'll call this meeting to order With us this morning is youth leader Sage Liot of Ark Church to
provide our invocation Following that invocation we will have our pledge of allegiance And
we ask invi invite you to stand for both Thank you Mayor Woo city council members
of Witchita Let's bow our heads and pray Dear heavenly father we thank you for
today We come with grateful hearts Lord uh for the opportunity to gather and discuss
Lord um everything uh in regards to our city Lord in 1 Timothy 2:1 it says to pray for
all of those in authority So I first of all lift you up lift up everyone in authority
today all decision makers to you Lord that you would give them clarity of mind Lord that
you would give them wisdom Lord that you would give them peace in stressful times Lord we pray 2
Chronicles 7:14 to humble yourselves and pray and you will heal our land father so we pray that
you will bless our people of Witchah that you will heal our sick and that you will heal our
land in the mighty name of Jesus we pray Amen Algiance to the flag of the United States of
America and to the republic for which it stands One nation under God indivisible
with liberty and justice for all Thank you very much Mr Liot Mr Clerk can you
please call the first item approve the minutes of regular meeting May 6 2025 Are there any
changes to the minutes i have one What was the vote for consent agenda was it 60 or 70
last week i think it was 70 I will go and check that and make the correction if necessary
Okay Thank you And also if we can get the names of people who speak as they walk up because
I think you can only speak once a month So I think that would be good too if we can do
that Other than that that's good Thank you I move to approve the me meeting minutes for
May 6 2025 Second motion and a second Any further discussion i see none Mr Clerk please
open the role Motion passes 70 Mr Clerk please call the next item Awards and proclamations
Proclamations this week are Bike Month Witchaw Facility Management Day and Law Week May I please
ask the Bike Block Witchah team to come forward and any council members who are
uh involved with BikeWalk Witchah The proclamation reads "The city of
Witchah Kansas founded in 1870 Whereas Bikewalk Witchah is teaming up with the city
of Witchah and community partners to recognize National Bike Month in our community Whereas
for more than a century the bicycles have been an essential part of the lives of Americans
and is a vital environmentally friendly sound form of transportation and an excellent form of
recreation and exercise Whereas the education of cyclists and motorists as to the proper and safe
operation of bicycles is important to ensure the safety and comfort of all users in an effort
to reduce cycle related injuries and deaths Whereas creating bicycle friendly communities
has been shown to improve residents health and well-being quality of life community spirit
and reduction of pollution and congestion Now therefore be it resolved that the Witchaw
City Council does hereby proclaim May 2025 as Bike Month in the city of Witchah and
encourage all residents businesses and independent cyclists throughout our community
to support the celebration of bike month and promote bicycling as a healthy sustainable and
enjoyable form of transportation and recreation Good morning Mayor Woo council members and
community partners My name is Holly Terrell and I am proud to serve as the executive director of
BikeWalk Witchah On behalf of our organization and many volunteers advocates and writers we represent
I would like to thank you for this proclamation recognizing May's bike month We're especially
grateful to be celebrating alongside the Health and Wellness Coalition WAMPO city staff and so
many others who work yearround to make Witchaw a more bikable and walkable community Bicycling
isn't just a fun activity It's a vital form of transportation a tool for wellness and a way to
connect with our neighbors Bike month allows us to celebrate that and to continue working toward
a Witchaw where everyone feels safe and welcome on our streets sidewalks and paths regardless of
how they get around We invite all Witchans to join us throughout the month for a variety of events
classes opportunities to ride and conversation You can find complete lists of bike month activities
at bikewalk witchah.org or bikemonth.org Together we can build a stronger healthier city
one pedal stroke at a time Thank you I would like to invite the Witchaw facility
management team to come forward at this time Good morning Good morning The proclamation reads "The city
of Witchah Kansas founded in 1870 Whereas World Facility Management Day aims to
recognize the efforts of the facility management profession anywhere that facility
management professionals influence the health safety productivity and well-being of
people who utilize the built environment Whereas Witchah facility managers build
support and maintain facilities in such sectors and industries as medical production
food supply office buildings transportation education financial and real estate keeping
these businesses open and producing Whereas the Witchah chapter of FMA has assisted Witchaw
State University with adding a degree emphasis in facilities management and increased awareness
will benefit Witchaw State University and the local facility management workforce Whereas
facility management professionals have kept buildings open and maintained in a safe manner
in both public and private sectors Now therefore be it resolved that the Witchah City Council
does hereby proclaim May 14 2025 as Witchah Facility Management Day in the city of Witchah
and encourage all individuals to show gratitude for facility management members who maintain
infrastructure and provide safety for workers and guests Thank you Mayor and City Council appreciate
this moment today Uh my name is Joel Elia and I'm the current president of the Witchaw IFMA
chapter and I just want to say how much we appreciate this opportunity um to be recognized
uh and all those uh individuals in our profession um as the mayor mentioned that helped
keep these buildings open and safe um for all the citizens of Witchaw
Uh just thank you very much May I please ask the Witchaw Bar
Association to come forward at this time the proclamation reads "The city of Witchaw
Kansas founded in 1870 Whereas the rule of law is a cornerstone of our democracy ensuring
that all individuals regardless of background or belief are treated fairly with dignity and
justice The legal profession plays a vital role in upholding the rights and responsibilities
enshrined in our laws advocating for fairness and serving communities in times of need Whereas
the United States Constitution established a framework for a balanced government protecting
individual rights while promoting the common good In 1958 President Eisenhower proclaimed Law
Day to honor the role of law in the creation of the United States of America And in 1961 US
Congress issued a joint resolution declaring May 1st as Law Day Whereas the Witchaw Bar
Association annually commemorates Law Week with educational programs and school visits
and public service initiatives throughout Cedric County encouraging all residents to
better understand and appreciate the rule of law Whereas the theme for Law Day 2025 the
Constitution's promise out of many one reminds us that unity is achieved not through uniformity
but through shared principles and mutual respect Now therefore be it resolved that the Witchah City
Council does hereby proclaim May 12th through 16 2025 as Law Week in the city of Witchah and
encourage all citizens to take part in this celebration by learning more about our legal
system participating in civic life and honoring the contributions of those who work each day
to uphold justice equity and the rule of law Thank you Mayor Woo city council members My
name is Michelle Mo Witty I'm president of the Witchah Bar Association I appreciate you
not just giving us law day but a declaration of law week You know those in our profession
take an oath to uphold the Constitution and support the rule of law And I just want
to thank you for making space to recognize those in this profession whose steady quiet work
upholds those ideals on a daily basis Thank you We'd like to recognize that Lily
Meadows our city manager fellow will be leaving us this week So thank
you for your service these past months Mr Clerk please call the next item Public agenda
The public agenda allows for up to five speakers to have five minutes each to address the council
No action will be taken relative to items on the public agenda other than referral to the
city manager for information as necessary Speakers will please state their name and
address for the record A time clock will display the speaker's remaining time
to speak Order and rules of decorum will be observed The first speaker is
Arthur Stokes advocating for black mold Good morning everyone and thank you for allowing
me another opportunity to uh be among you Mayor Woo and staff city council Uh I don't have a
a whole lot on my agenda You know it's pretty much the same old plain jane in dealing with uh
the topic of uh starbakas black mole and uh it touches everybody You know we might be got some
in this building right now We we won't know that until you know such time But uh my address is 2614
South Topeka And uh I have uh I've had several instances with the past two landlords and the the
experiences were uh where I lived at at third in Topeka be before I moved pretty much where I'm uh
at in their uh it got into an eviction and they got to the point of retaliation because they lost
the contract with the city Landlords love money We We all need Everybody needs you know we all
need things but the landlord they lost touch and uh they did half of what the city asked them to do
They wanted to spray paint the bathtub instead of uh doing it right They wanted to cut corners I
mean a lot of times we get complacent you know and we get addicted to money And uh in dealing
with the mold topic I'm going to tie this in as a retaliation They cut my lights out from the
basement They also had went into the basement before that got to that level and uh they ousted
one of the neighbors and she come out of the homeless community and of course you know she had
some people come over but it was never really a issue where you know it got violent or rowdy
or people got hurt and they cut her stuff off When you cut off uh people from electricity it
increases the mold concentration that's already there Cuz that's what I experienced I mean it
wasn't a good experience Uh they came to court and the lady she brought her whole staff in there
None of this stuff came in as a topic and that's because uh we're in denial You know we want to
talk about the good stuff that we do for the tenants and the good stuff that we do but we're
not talking about the stuff that's seems like it's minor and it gets bigger You remember
I kept talking about the mushroom when you first look at it it looks cute is so small but it
keeps mushrooming It keeps growing It gets bigger It gets more sophisticated It gets complicated It
gets into everything And uh while I was there too I couldn't I could never relate to I ordered some
food for my uh pet Snowzer and he was very healthy dog I only had like antibiotics once He was middle
age and during that particular time with him uh I lost him He started having seizures and
for a while I kept thinking about the the three kernels that I of dog food that I served in and
you know it within five minutes he was having seizures until about the fifth one uh I lost him
in a seizure and the fourth one was so bad they had to give him five times the phenom barbatital
all of that we effect as I really got honest and looked back it came from that black mold you
know I couldn't understand it so it's it's a very tough topic I mean folk are in denial people
are are living with it and they're sick behind it and they don't even realize it don't know it man
you know that a mold affects you uh it can affect you for as uh brain fog you know nose bleeds you
know it's it's it's other parts of it but I can't tie it in this morning So you know we need to uh
start penalizing landlords when they doing stuff like that because only thing you're doing is
giving that uh poor individual a death sentence So you know I plead with city council I demand
that we the people we need this Thank you Please Thank you Mr Stokes Council member Hohheisel Thank
you Mayor Um city manager are we still online for um discussing some new ordinances and codes at
the May 27th workshop yes we are Okay I would recommend coming down Tuesday May 27th Um we will
be having this discussion Also if you have people that I think you might be outside that window
I believe it's 180 days but if you have people who you feel have been unfairly evicted uh we
do have a process set up landlord retaliation process So make sure you send the people down
here to talk to us if they do feel like they have been unfairly evicted and retaliated against
And also I believe um HUD is in October maybe And um I believe that they are going to a new
standard as far as inspections of section A housing too pertaining to mold So it's to make
it more uniform make it easier for landlords to address So that might also be something to to
keep on your radar as well So please come down May 27th We'll be having that workshop And as I keep
saying it's not just in the section 8 It's in the whole state needs to you know go back you know
make us better make us will And there is going to be some barriers set up as far as the state
allowing us to really get in and do inspections So there is some work to do on the state level as
well to help address this Right Right I want to see that I want to see that changed All right I
mean Yes sir Definitely Appreciate it Thank you Council Member Johnson Thanks Mayor I just wanted
to say I appreciate you Mr Stoopes continuing to talk about this It's folks like you who are
courageous enough to keep talking about it to really help when we talk about these issues I
have been in spaces where landlords don't believe me when I say stories like yours happen So by you
continuing to come up here I definitely appreciate that And if you have any of anyone else with
those real life experiences tell have them come to the workshop I mean people really need to see
that If not that's fine I appreciate you doing it but your your voice matters in this and those
experiences matter and we will be talking about this on the 27th I'll just add just a couple of
quick items The workshop usually has uh council members that discuss amongst uh with the staff
So if any public comment would would like to uh speak about the specific topic they should speak
at the very beginning of that meeting when there's public agenda So just giving you a word of advice
If you want to speak you can speak at the public agenda which is at the beginning of the workshop
Uh in addition you mentioned a couple things about state lawmakers Um I would encourage you also to
reach out to your state legislators Um you also have another body of government which is Cedric
County Uh those are your commissioners and then this body is the city council So we only deal with
city issues But um there are three levels that you could also address uh and give your shared uh
lived experience uh to them as well Thank you Mr Clerk can you please call the next individual
crystal Diane Sigler homelessness and tiny housing Good morning Mayor Woo and City Council My name
is Crystal Sigler My address is 600 West 34th Street North I'm in Maggie Ballard's district
Um the homeless have been on my heart for some time now and I've had a chance to help out with
serving dinners with the um humankind um and seen only a little bit of the issues that they face I
would like to make a suggestion to the city which to build tiny home villages for the homeless
It would be a great start for them to get back on their feet with a sense of belonging to the
community again It also helps to house several people in a smaller area and it's cheaper to build
tiny homes than regularsized homes Providing tiny homes along with case management would go a long
way to ending most of the homeless population Witchah Sedric County to 2024 point in
time homeless count results released um on the United Ways United Wayplains.org
website The annual um point in time homeless count is a national effort undertaken once
a year by professionals and volunteers to count those who are currently experiencing
homeless in the communities across the US The results provide a snapshot of persons
encountered during a one-day count and are used to identify resources needed to address this
important issue Make local funding decisions and study trends and increase awareness about those
who don't have either who don't have shelter The coalition to end homelessness in Witchah
Sedwick County conducts a survey in Witchaw for the 24-hour period It's coordinated and managed
by the United Way of Plains The results are reported on to the US Department of Housing and
Urban Development and published on their website Witchaw's working to get to a functional zero
meaning the number of people becoming newly homeless does not exceed the resources available
to house them We want homelessness to be rare brief and non-recurring says Schneider's with
United Way's continuum of care which coordinates local agencies serving the homeless and compliance
with federal housing agencies Um this year's count was taken on January 25th 2024 for the preceding
um night of January 24th Key facts in this year's count Um 691 persons were identified as homeless
those living in emergency shelter transitional housing safe haven or places not meant for
human habitation such as cars or on the street The total number of homeless persons decreased
by 12 persons or 1.5% decrease when compared with 2023 Of the 691 individuals identified as homeless
188 were 21% were unsheltered This was an increase of 25% over those counted and unsheltered in 2023
It is unlikely that some of the homeless will not want a place to live It's probably a scary
thought to have a home to call your own when you've been on the streets for years Tiny homes
would provide a relief to the homeless shelters as well allowing homeless to start living on their
own preparing and making their own food and having a bed of their own Using tiny homes allows you
to house more people and they easily support a communal environment It's an affordable housing
program option and a budget friendly It is also smaller footprint and translates to decreased
environmental impact reducing energy consumption carbon emissions and overall resources used Um
some key takeaways are affordability and reduced cost of living um are major benefits and of tiny
homes Modern amenities and innovative design solutions can be found in many homes Echofriendly
and sustainable living is often associated with tiny house movement Zoning laws space limitations
and financing financing challenges can prevent drawbacks in tiny housing living Um some of the
frequently asked questions that I got off the internet were um what is the average cost of
building a tiny home a tiny home ranges from 10,000 to 180,000 but averages between 30 and
75,000 Um what modern amenities can be included despite the small footprint tiny homes can include
a wide variety of modern luxurious amenities such as air conditioning washerdryer units full
stove tops and even bathtubs Thank you Thank you Miss Sigler Thank you Council Member Vice
Mayor Johnston Crystal thank you for coming and bringing attention to this Appreciate it Uh we did
have four of us here on the bench that that did do the point in time count So we're very familiar
with it Uh everyone on this council to the person is engaged in helping solve the homeless issue So
we are very very engaged We've put our money where our mouth is um giving millions and millions of
dollars to the the MAC and to to build it and to fund it the first two years Um I would like to
maybe the definition of homeless uh functional zero is when more people are going out of homeless
than are coming in That's that's the definition of homelessness Um as far as number of houses it
ranges anywhere from 20,000 to we heard 50,000 this this weekend Um I think the general consensus
is plus or minus 30,000 units Uh duplex would be two units and really that that's at all income
levels of housing Most of it though is affordable housing So it it's a big elephant to to digest
and little little uh bits and pieces out of it and Tiny Homes probably is is one of those pieces
that can help So I appreciate you coming and and presenting today Thank you Council Member Ballard
Thank you Mayor I just wanted to say thank you for showing up today and advocating We talk about it
I feel like all day every day but it's nice um to have conversations especially when the community
is bringing them to us So thank you May I ask uh Director Sally to just address the tiny home um
idea i know that this has been floated around u but the city um and under your leadership there
there's an even better solution Can you talk about um the additional space that you'd like to see at
MAC sure So uh the first question I would have is how are you defining tiny home because I've
seen as small as 110 square ft and as large as 1,200 square f feet defined as tiny homes
So huge array Um definitely a little bit more challenging to do individual units more expensive
than doing a multif family unit You know 50 roofs to replace is much more expensive than the roof on
a 50unit apartment complex just as an example Uh we definitely recognize the need to be able to
create additional housing that will expect and will accept people coming from homelessness having
those wraparound services Um the next plan is actually a to build a 75 unit building on the
property at the Park Elementary site at the MAC that will include 50 units of permanent supportive
housing and 25 units of non- congregate shelter um that project the our development agreement is
currently being reviewed by partner law and we intend to bring that very shortly to the council
so that we can start building that property Um we have identified all of the funding related
to that and we're having further conversations about future tax credit um applications and
possibilities to to um definitely increase the number of affordable units in our community Thanks
for what you do Thanks a lot Thank you Mr Clerk can you please call the next individual sibilstrom
How can they seize her house without permission good morning My name is Civil Strum I reside at
326 North Walnut The reason I'm here is November 21st 1998 The city seized my house I was not at
the home when they took it My house was a half haven for drugfested kids that needed a home and
alcoholic parents could not take care of them So I would be the one taking care of them I was on 2909
North Richmond when I went down to my neighborhood my own neighborhood and I was told by my next
door neighbor "There's a guy in your house." I said "A guy what's he doing in my house?" It was
a central I didn't know nothing about the central They came in they took pictures they destroyed
my house without my permission They stole my stuff And I am very appalled by it because I have
been there for the community I have been teaching and stuff like that I don't understand You're
supposed to tell the homeowner that you are going to take the house I was not alerted Also I
have excessive mortgage You wouldn't believe And I don't even think it's going to be paid off because
I didn't even know nothing about it They came they went to Fidelity they made me homeless in a way
Because I am appalled I am so appalled I wanted help but I did not want it The way you tear down
my house you take my life away You put me in a uh terrible situation My soil of my
soil is not growing anything anymore My my property got stolen I had a Victorian tub
that would be 2,468 I didn't even get to see it And they stole my property They stole all my
property The central broke my lock which I called the police on because Dave Unrew told
me to He said "If you think somebody came in your house without permission call the police."
I don't think that's right Witchah Kansas is not supposed to be a city that wants to evict people
and make them homeless And then they give you a contractor that you don't even know and I'm
fixing a house up myself This is not right This is not right I have been there frequently Like I
said I h I housed kids that were in druginfested alcoholic places and I'm appalled I'm serious
I'm going to come back here until I get answers Why i don't like it I'm hurting because of
it It was an emotional stress to me to find out my property was gone that a guy came in
my house and thought he was a central You're supposed to let people know what's going on not
just barrel into someone's house and do all the stuff you want to do I I don't know You got to
tell me I can't I've called I've called Maggie Balor about it I've called Brandon Johnson about
it I did not appreciate it I called Dion Lavner of the Eagle He was trying to help me too This
community is supposed to be a loving community but I have been treated like dirt and I would
appreciate this happened Never happened to anyone else Thank you Thank you Miss Trump City
Manager Leighton can you please address that mayor Mi Miss Strum's case is one that is
very extensive in terms of the actions that were involved Um the uh we've put together a
report previously um put together a report that itemized all of the activities the time
frame the actions the city has taken to actually help mrum We looked at rehabilitation
of her home found that was not cost-effective actually in my mind went the extra mile to put her
in safe housing and into an assisted unit And um we've um I I think have probably worked more to to
help her than we probably have many other clients Can I speak they did not help me They put me in
Mount Carmel Apartments where it was crime going on every day and night I went to the waterwalk My
hotel room was broken into by somebody I didn't even know He's full of I'm sorry They did not help
me I asked them I didn't even know about really If you want to know the truth I did not know about
it that they were going to send the central in So I went overturned him went to Dave Andrew he
used to be such a county commissioner and I told him and you know that's not the way you
run a community You try to help people like I've done several times I've helped people
that are homeless I've helped people that are in situations that they could not even
live in their own home with their parents And I got treated like dirt And not just that
I don't even know if I want to live in Witchah anymore because of it Because I would like
how would you like it if somebody came to your house took pictures and stole your property
you would not like it Mr uh Council Member Johnson and Council Member Ballard you
said you've spoken with Council Member Johnson would like to speak Thanks Mayor I I
was just going to say given the complexities of this case and privacy concerns I think this
is better discussed not at the council meeting There's a lot of information there and I I don't
think it would be good to talk about that at the bench Just my thoughts Thank you Miss Strum
Um I'm sure city manager would you like to speak with her afterwards or someone from staff
would like to speak with Miss Trump um again she wants a response and I know that there have
been multiple responses from the city but she is still here asking for another response
Thank you Mr Clerk can you please call the next individual joseph Textoer A few hopefully
at least one helpful thoughts from text Mr Doer I see none Mr Clerk can you please call the
next individual derek Jackson Police support Thank you Thank you Thank you for allowing me this
opportunity to bend a couple of things that's on my heart One of them is to thank Mr Johnson one
day I came to speak and he said something to me I didn't hear him Excuse me sir Could you go closer
to the microphone we can Doug heard him Thank you and let me know if somebody's saying something to
you So I turned around and Mr Johnson he looked me in my eyes and he said "I'm sorry for your
loss That's enough of me." Me without nobody um soliciting me to sue or do anything that
is against my belief system I thank Mr Johnson I I I thank you for truth and I thank you for
being a what they call a a human being I also apologize for my mistake I made a mistake with
the magistrates in understanding what was going on and therefore it's my fault that it was not
settled and so therefore I personally absolve the officers involved in my wife's case Do you
understand what absolve mean i personally absolve and it would not be any other action taken
not in my name or not in the name of my wife's estate You know a piece is I send something to
a person that I believe will give me what I need It's a kind of mentator I call it just a prayer
I sent to Donald Trump I'm a Republican I don't vote I'm not very um political but I do believe in
going to the temple sometime more science temple with McGee Bay And I want to do the right
thing at all times So forgive me of my past um mistakes and misunderstanding and Nicole Coupe
and made it very clear to me from Topeka and I thank her I'm not asking for anything I thank you
for your time Miss Mayor Excuse me I thank you for your time and especially thank you Mr Johnson
for your words of encouragement and your thank you for your loss It's enough for me I do not bring
any other charges against the city of Witchah I do not allow anybody to bring any charges in
my name and let it go My family we're going to be all right We're going to be all right Thank
you very much Oh one other thing My doctor um Huffford I miss him He's a real person I didn't
know he had I didn't know But do you have any questions for me no Thank you Have a pleasant
rest of the week And this words coming from me um of the age of age and um thank you very
much Thank you Mr Jackson We have room for one more individual to speak I see none
I'll bring it back Mr Clerk can you please call the next item consent agenda items
1 through 21 Are there items to be pulled i see none I will move to approve consent
agenda items 1 through 21 Second Motion and a second Any further discussion i
see none Mr Clerk please open the role Motion passes 70 Mr Clerk please call the next item Board
of bids and contracts dated May 12th 2025 Morning Mayor City Council Josh Lober
Department of Finance The board of bids and contracts convene yesterday May
12th 2025 for the following items For engineering we have the water main
extension water distribution system and storm water drain number 525 sanitary sewer
and paving to serve Pegasus and Pegasus second edition rejecting all bids We have the
water distribution storm water drain sanitary sewer off-site sanitary sewer and paving to
serve Swany Farm edition phase one Reject all bids We have the 2025 sidewalk maintenance
for South Central Ceiling LLC for a bid of $79,525 We have the 2024 dirt street
paving phase 2 for Conspec Incorporated doing business as Kansas paving
for an aggregate bid of $360,820 We have the 2025 outsource pavement
preservation program CIP concrete street repair phase one for Conspect
Incorporated doing business as Kansas paving awarded to the engineers estimate
of 432,000 from their original bid of 359,346 I have the 2025 outsource
paving preservation program joint and crack seal phase one for circle C
paving and construction for $29,5540 We have the 2025 sanitary sewer
rehabilitation phase A for institute to form technologies USA LLC in the amount of $417,026 We have the waterline extension at Hoover and Robinson and Hoover and Curtis for
Barkley Construction LLC for $105,45 For purchasing we have the asphalt cold mix for APAC Kansas Incorporated for $135 a ton
with an estimated annual usage of two $229,500 We have the sand gravel rock mud balls
top soil filter and other miscellaneous materials change order for A+ logistics logistics LLC for
an estimated amended amount of 220,000 This is how to become a vendor with the city This is our
purchasing calendar of events with small business resource partners occurring in the community
These are open public opportunities out on the street today and I'd be happy to try to answer any
of your questions and I recommend your approval Thank you Josh We'll begin with Council Member
Tuttle Thank you Thank you Josh for being here today Thanks for all you do I always appreciate
all your work for you and your team Um could you go to slide nine for me please sure Thank you
I don't know if I've seen one like this before So just it did what happened if you can explain
how we went from 359,000 to 432,000 Sure So I'm going to need the city engineer on this but
the That's okay I don't need to go into that much detail I'm just curious what happened Yeah
The procurement process was that we completed the bid process and solicitation process The
bid came in for the original bid of 359 346 the city engineer within their processes they
can request or they're requesting the awarding within the engineer's estimate being above what
they bidded So they are awarding additional work but those fixed unit prices they are going to
review within the contract management process Okay Thank you very much Thank you You did
great You didn't need an engineer I actually do have a follow-up question Does that mean
that there will be additional lane miles that will be repaired great question I am definitely
going to need city engineer to speak to that It could if as long as we're still within the
engineers estimate It depends how much um as we begin repairing the uh concrete streets How far
if we have additional quantities that we need to but if not then we will move on to additional
street segments Yes So it's up to $432,000 Um and it could be a certain number of
miles that we want It depends upon Right Correct Now um however we could find one
of the streets that might need more work So we could use those quantities to complete
that work within that existing street segment Thank you Council Member Ballard Oop sorry
Um nine is the slide I was going to ask about I see no further questions I will move to approve
the board of bids and contracts dated May 12th 2025 Second Motion and a second Any further
discussion i see none Mr Clerk please open the role Motion passes 70 Mr Clerk please call the
next item Petitions for public improvements Good morning mayor city council members Paul
Gunsman public works and utilities for the record I have new and revised petitions for your
consideration this morning The signatures on the petitions represent 100% of the improvement
districts and the petitions are valid per Kansas statute That's an addition located in
district two The project will provide water storm water drain sanitary sewer and paving
improvements required for a new residential development Revised petitions Pegasus edition
located in district 2 on October 10th 2023 March 5th 2024 and December 3rd 2024 The
city council approved water drainage sewer and paving improvements required for a new
residential development Project was bid on April 4th 2025 with bids for drainage and
paving exceeding the engineer's estimate Therefore the developer has submitted revised
drainage and paving petitions with increased budgets so that the project can be rebid and
that project will rebid later this month And with that is recommended to approve the new and
revised petitions and budgets adopt the new and amending resolutions and authorize the necessary
signatures And I will stand for questions Thanks Paul Any questions i see none I move to approve
the petition for public improvements Second Motion and a second Any further discussion
i see none Mr Clerk please open the role Motion passes 70 Mr Clerk please call
the next item Public hearing and request by a WHAM4200 LLC for approval of a letter
of intent to issue industrial revenue bonds Honorable mayor members of council Troy Anderson
assistant city manager Um so this item was laid over from last week Um the project has just
continually evolved uh as is the case a lot of times with a lot of these economic development
projects Um and so we're here today with uh a little more detail on exactly what the the
applicant is proposing Again a little bit of background Uh WHAM 4200 is an LLC that was formed
in 2024 uh specifically for managing projects such as this Um they are managed by Wham Capital and
they've been in and around commercial rental real estate for uh many many years and has a a long
history of success in and around the industry locally More specifically they are requesting the
issuance of approximately $5 million in revenue bonds for the acquisition and remodel of three
existing buildings located at 4200 West Harry What's unique and different uh about today's
information versus uh what was presented to you all last week is WAM4200 is now committing to
not only making the $2 million in renovations but they're also committing creating five new jobs
associated with aircraft parts and auxiliary equipment manufacturing So with that being said
the city's economic development guidelines allow for tax abatement and sales tax exemption on
existing buildings that have been vacant for at least two years So when we took the additional
job creation that they were proposing in addition to the capital investment um we ran that through
sort of the matrix within the guidelines and uh we've identified that the project qualifies
for an 80% property tax abatement that's made up of 40% based on new capital investment between
a million and $5 million and 30% to new jobs and 10% for creating jobs in a regional growth land
sector Um this information for the most part uh has remained the same as we presented last
week that the property um the appraised value was a little more than $3 million The assessed
value a little more than $750,000 and the general tax obligation as it stands today was about
$88,000 With that being said the estimated value of the 80% abatement for the first full
year is approximately 65,000 That is made up of uh city about 20,000 county about 17,000
state just under a,000 um 259 about $26,000 Like I said additionally the project is eligible
for a sales tax exemption on that sort of $2 million worth of capital investment Uh the
approximate value of the sales tax exemption is about $75,000 That remains unchanged
from last week with the city share being approximately $5,800 So we went back to with the
creation of and the commitment to the creation of five new jobs We went back to Witchaw State
University Center for Economic Development um and business research They reran the model for
the costbenefit analysis So we have new numbers on the costbenefit ratios more specifically city
of Witchah 1.42 42:1 uh which also includes general fund 1.37 to1 debt service fund 1.53 to1
county 1.32:1 259 1.23 to1 and state of Kansas 5.2 two to one So here's our standard disclaimer
IRBs are a mechanism for achieving a sales tax exemption and or property tax abatement in the
transaction The city is not lending any money and bears no risk The company is required to
acquire all of its own financing So there are no taxpayer dollars at risk All costs are borne
by the company requesting the use of the bonds The applicant is uh has agreed to pay all costs
of issuing the bonds and agrees to pay the annual origination fees Bonds will be purchased by way
4200 or a related entity So once the uh capital investment is made and the bond documents um are
prepared for the issuance of bonds they will be initially prepared by outside bond council but
obviously a city's law department at that time will review and approve the final form prior to
the issuance of any bonds With that being said last week you all opened the public hearing um and
allowed for public comment So we recommend that city council continue to receive public comment
as part of that continued public hearing But then uh after all public comment has been received
close the public hearing adopt the resolution and authorize the necessary signatures Again
we do have a representative from the applicant here today to answer any questions
And otherwise I'll stand for questions Thank you Troy Council member Glascock Thank you
Mayor Troy This wasn't in the green sheet but I just want to confirm with you I think on page
two of the contract section four it talks about that this will be a 10-year abatement with a five
and five Just confirming that because it wasn't presented in the green sheet or the presentation
That's correct I have further questions regarding that So is this a typical where we have a five
and five with an 80% tax abatement um usually the one that we saw uh the week before was a uh 90%
abatement and then a 50% abatement Can you explain that yeah So uh what was presented to you all
last week um was modeled under sort of a different formulary right that's the 95 for five years and
the 50% for years 6 through 10 Uh so this with the commitment to the job creation right um we can
now look at uh how that impacts the costbenefit analysis number one And then number two we can
uh calculate that at a rate um sort of a constant rate across the 10 years regardless of which
formulary we run that through There's there's the five-year evaluation right and so at that
five-year evaluation we'll do the look back Did they create did they make the capital investment
that they said they were going to make did they create the jobs that they said they were going to
create and at that point in time we'll bring that back to you Uh that's pretty standard protocol
on all of these applications right that we'll bring those back to you Yep They satisfied all the
criteria And that's when they get a authorization to continue to get that abatement for years 6th
through 10th I would be interested in asking staff from uh more of a long-term project I'd like to
see that five-year review be open to the public to see on the website so that they can see that
the folks who asked for that abatement did meet their requirement and that's why they're being
granted an additional five years Mayor if I can I want to make a few comments to supplement what
Troy said and then I'll get to that point as well Um I just want to clarify what Troy outlined
for you is that originally when this came to you this was under the speck uh warehouse uh and
manufacturing program Um we worked with council member Glasscock Um also with the partnership uh I
think all of us got to the point where we weren't comfortable going under the spec program
and that's why you saw the 90 and then 50% previously We're under a more traditional approach
now Um but uh it we it still falls under the the um preface that you have a building that's been
vacant for at least two years But we are looking uh at the more traditional program Council
amended that a few years ago It used to be that it was a straight up 100% abatement Now um
there are various categories and Troy referenced those in his um uh slide though that um it you
if you're in each of the categories there's a certain percentage of abatement that's attached
to those categories and so it's not necessarily just a straight 100% any longer and they have to
move forward and and basically help our economy especially on the diversification uh piece which I
think was the last criteria that Troy showed Going back to your item we have a requirement to bring
back to the council the five-year look back on all of our projects Um we've had a little bit of
a staff shortage over the last uh few months but now that we're getting uh more people back into
Troy's office we'll be bringing those forward um the look backs and be able to report that
information to the council More than happy to put it on the website afterwards as well I would
like that for greater transparency and ease of access of that information Uh we do appreciate
the economic development that this provides for our community and eventual uh greater property
taxes that are collected Um but there is a a reason why there are abatements and so again I
would like that information public Um the second question I had was on slide 38 I mentioned this
before and I'd like to reemphasize this again um the and or I would like to put greater emphasis
on the or rather than the and Um I do believe that uh sometimes to make things work or pencil
you need the and but I think the first option should always be the or um so that developers
understand that they need to come up with the greater risk versus the abatement being the
crutch And so c can can we I guess have some sort of policy that talks about or has to be the
first thing that is presented and not the and so we've been talking kind of a lot about
economic development policy and guidelines In fact you you may recall that you know we
went through a three-part series last year uh about kind of updating our economic
development policies and guidelines Uh and so we're we're certainly open to having
that conversation especially when we bring back to you a revised version as as the city
manager alluded to Right We've uh we've been a little short staffed of late Um but at this point
in time as we start to get ramped back up we're definitely going to put it back on your radar of
bringing those economic development guidelines back based on the conversations we had last year
through that three-part series as well as these ongoing conversations that we've had over the
last several weeks and months Um we'll be more than happy to bring that information back to you
Thank you Troy And since you mentioned that the applicant has a representative here I'd like that
representative to just come forward and just share um what they hope to have in this vacant
building that has been vacant for the last two years Uh what is the hope for
this in terms of economic development uh thank you uh Mayor Woo and council members
Uh my name is Chris Madson I'm a vice president at WAM Capital and um our hope with this is to uh
bring in aircraft manufacturing related businesses um new expansion into the Witchaw market
including new employees and new economic benefits So that's kind of our hope and we have
other tenants obviously as well that we work with So if that doesn't work out we hope to bring other
new jobs potentially So thank you very much Chris Thank you I see no further questions for Chris or
Troy We'll open it up or continue public comment Good morning mayor members of the council
Andrew Nave uh with Greater Witchaw Partnership 505 East Douglas Avenue Thank you for the the
discussion this morning and the consideration uh of this item and really uh continuing the
conversation on our economic development policy and guidelines We the partnership obviously very
much looks forward to engaging with you all and providing uh feedback and input into that process
as we we did before Uh the manager referenced kind of the update to the policy uh from 2018 and
2019 So it has been a minute since we've really uh kind of rolled up our sleeves and dug deep into
that policy So very much look forward to that I I wanted to just use just a very brief minute not
even four minutes to to highlight the kind of the environment of where we were in 2018 and 2019
and some of the background as to why that two-year vacancy provision was was so important and and and
brought into discussion but is also still needed today So we were in a completely different real
estate environment than kind of precoid and we really lacked available industrial product We had
almost no available large-scale industrial product in the community at that time We had a number of
great sites and places to build on but no existing building of of scale or at least very little of it
at that time And then certainly the COVID pandemic came but a number of the the and changed the real
estate environment for sure but a number of the provisions that that this body and the previous
council put in place helped affectuate the growth of our industrial market Some of that was the spec
program which has been mentioned but I would argue the the two-year vacancy provision while h not
having been utilized a lot that program is really important because it provides an advantage and
an opportunity for the older building stock our olding inventory which we have millions of square
feet of to be able to be put into profitable and habitable use economic development use which is
what this is doing So um we were really encouraged by that We strongly encourage that There's
definitely uh tweaks and adjustments that that we would like to see and that we would love to talk
with you all about with the incentive policy going forward but that need of of industrial space uh
I would argue is is is needed now more than ever I pulled our our database our our notes from the
partnership this morning Over the last year we we have roughly 160 projects total that we've been
tracking over the several years but just in the last year we've had 14 inquiries that are over
100,000 square feet just industrial buildings just looking at existing buildings not looking to
build a new building just to look at an existing building We've had 10 requirements that are over
140,000 square feet which is what this building is the 10 opportunities that that we didn't have
very many options Today in Witchah there's only two properties for lease a third that might be
available on subleasase but really two properties on market that have this much square footage
and they're both in the northeast corner of the community We have really nothing of scale at all
on the west or the southwest side of the city So we're really encouraged by this uh this proposal
uh WM real estate is certainly well known and well respected and one of the best developers uh kind
of homegrown developers we have in our community So we're really encouraged by that Again look
forward to engaging with you all in further economic development discussions Thank you very
much Thank you Andrew Any further public comment i see none We'll close public comment and bring
it back to the bench Council member Johnson Thanks Mayor Um semi-related to this but also unrelated
given what Andrew just said not to put more work on your plate Troy I do think we should revisit
those policies sometime this summer or fall I I think um just looking at the fact that we don't
have enough existing square footage is a big deal And if there's some reuse opportunities maybe
some incentive um that we can create or modify might help that So anytime this summer or fall
that would be great Council member Glascock Thank you Mayor I echo Councilman Johnson's comments in
that this is our opportunity to set a precedent today of how we establish maybe reuse of these
buildings in the future Um and I'm encouraged by it I want to thank um Chris Andrew Troy and also
the manager for working through this process and getting to a yes and I think a better product
than where we started And so I'm very thankful that this came back and that we worked through
a deferral to make sure that there was a more tangible benefit to taxpayers that there were jobs
attached to it especially with an abatement And I think this was an example of a process that worked
itself out through a lot of input So I'm thankful for that Hopefully we can replicate this Um I'm
biased but District 4 is the aviation core of the aviation capital Um I see us as the industrial
core of the city as well And so I'm hopeful that these projects and more of these projects can
take place along West Street take place along that corridor and also further in the district
And thank you for taking the risk of business and um just taking a risk in for Witchaw as well
So with that seeing nobody else is on the bench unless the mayor's comments um I recommend that we
close the public hearing adopt the resolution and authorize the necessary signatures Second motion
and a second Any further discussion i see none Mr Clerk please open the role Motion passes 70 Mr
Clerk please call the next item Witchah employees retirement and police and fire retirement
systems actuarial valuation reports as of December 31st 2024 Good morning I'm Mark Manning
with the Department of Finance and today I want to present to you the actuarial reports for our
uh retirement systems here at the city of Witchaw So as you know we actually have two retirement
systems the Witchaw employees retirement system which provides retirement benefits primarily for
our civilian uh employees and we also have the Witchaw police and fire retirement system which
is designed to provide uh retirement benefits for our commissioned and uh public safety employees Uh
we are very fortunate here in the city of Witchaw Our pension system and our pension funds are in
very good shape In fact we're positioned better than many other public pension plans in the United
States Uh why is that well generally because we follow at least three strategies We have a very
diversified and a very well-managed portfolio Uh we hire a lot of really smart money managers
and we keep a close eye on them and they do a very good job for us Uh we also make sure that
the assumptions in our system are appropriate Uh and those are very important because that allows
us to make sure that we are funded appropriately And finally probably most importantly is the last
bullet One reason we are in very good shape is because for many many years the city council
has committed to fully funding our retirement systems based on the actuarial recommendation
for contribution rates and that's very very meaningful to the system So each year we have an
actuary that reviews both of our plans They're going to calculate uh a lot of metrics Uh two
I'll call to your attention One is the funded ratio which simplistically is a measure of of
the uh strength of our system and they're also going to calculate the required city contribution
rates from an actuarial basis and today we will ask you to receive and file the report but
also to approve the contribution rates for 2026 Uh so with that uh I'll introduce our
uh actuaries that we have here today with us from Chiron We have Janet Crana
and we also have Jake Uh Jake is very skilled as an actuary and he has
one skill that I do not have and that is the ability to pronounce his last name
So I'm going to let him take care of that part Thank you Mark Good morning Mayor Woo
and city council members I'm Jake Labowskis with Chiron and my partner Janet's with me as
well We're the actuaries for the city's two retirement systems and today we'll be presenting
the results of this year's actuarial valuation The purpose of the valuation is to calculate
the assets and liabilities of each system and the funded ratio which is the ratio of the
assets to the liabilities We also calculate as Mark alluded to the city's contribution
rate for next year So this year's results calculate the city's contribution rate for 2026
As part of that process we review the systems experience both the demographic experience what
participant behavior has been and the financial experience what investment returns have been for
the systems We not only calculate the funded ratio for the current year and the city requirement
for next year but we project what those funded ratios and city contribution amounts will be
in the future It's important to know not just where you're at today but where you're headed in
the future And so we keep an eye on that as well And of course we are responsible for identifying
and letting the plan sponsor know of the risks of the plan because there are risks and
I'll talk about that more a little bit later This slide shows the how the actual
evaluation process works This is a graphic from the Harvard Business Review in 1965 and not
much has changed in pension systems over the last 60 years The size of the tank is calculated each
year It represents the liabilities of the fund I ideally we want the tank to be full Um but
the asset line or the green area in the tank represents the assets not necessarily to scale
Um and so ideally the tank is full but it's not always necessary And the difference between the
assets in the tank and the top of the tank is that unfunded liability that has to get paid
down over time The assets of the system are funded by both city contributions and the member
contributions as well as investment earnings uh also add significantly to the uh assets
of the system And those assets are used to pay retirement and survivor benefits to retirees
and beneficiaries of former city workers as well as the cost of administering the plan And
so each year we recalculate the size of the tank and compare it against the assets of the
system and we adjust the nozzle on that city contribution rate to make sure that the systems
are being appropriately funded over the long term This year's valuation includes uh new assumptions
and methods that were recently approved by both boards of trustees and those assumptions and
methods were based on recommendations by us Uh every 3 to five years we perform what's called an
experience study where we we where we review the experience of the systems and compare it to the
assumptions that are in use and kind of adjust the assumptions to make sure that they're
reasonable and appropriate looking forward Two notable assumption changes were changes
to mortality rates and future salary increases The prior mortality rates were a bit
outdated and so we refreshed them to the most recent publicly available table And
future salary increases there's been uh some larger salary increases than expected over
the last few years and so we're expecting those to continue for at least a couple
more years There were notably no change to the investment return assumption which is
one of the assumptions that has the largest driver to the cost of the plan that remains at
seven and a quarter percent assumed return each year The funded ratio for the employee plan
decreased slightly from 89% to 88% while the ratio for the police and fire plan
increased slightly from 86% to 87% That unfunded liability that's the difference
in the tank that's not the the shortage between the asset line and the top of the
tank that grew slightly for both plans For the employee plan it grew about $16 million
And for police and fire it grew about $2 million This page here 53 shows the calculation
of the city's contribution rate for next year At this top of the table we show the total normal
cost rate Normal cost is the cost of benefits for all the active employees in the plan that are
acrewing one more year of service And so for the employee plan it was 14.6% and for police and
fire is 25.2% 2% of payroll Of course the members contribute part of that And so the city's portion
is less at 9.9 and 18.2 And then the next line is that UAL the UL is that unfunded actuarial
liability It's the gap in the tank And this contribution rate goes to kind of filling that gap
over time And so combined the total contribution rate for the employee plan is 17% of payroll
And for police and fire it is 28% of payroll This next page shows how that contribution
contribution rate changed from last year to this year The top of the table shows last
year's contribution rates for both systems It was 15.6 and 27.9% respectively There were
positive investment gains in 2024 The markets did well and so that reduced the contribution rate
slightly There were what we call liability losses demographic experience was unfavorable
primarily due to higher salary increases than expected which increases the liability
Members are going to receive larger pension benefits at retirement because of the higher
salaries and it increases liability accordingly The assumption and method changes uh had
a notable increase for the WER plan the employee plan of one and a half% and a slightly
less increase for the police and fire plan There were some other changes as well that
resulted in the employee plan contribution rate increasing 1.4% of payroll and the police
and fire plan contribution rate increasing 0.1% of payroll Page 55 shows a 10-year history of the
contribution rates where the police and fire plan is the gold line and the employee plan
is the blue line and it shows fluctuations year-over-year So they tend to be relatively
minor year-over-year but you can see the last few years they've had uh increases for both
plans um primarily due to uh the higher salary increases and uh some investment losses in
the past that increased the the cost of the plans Page 56 shows a 10-year history of the
funded ratios Again the police and fire is gold and the employee plan is blue They tend to
move in tandem uh as the biggest driver of that funded ratio change is the investment returns
on a year-to-year basis Uh you can see that currently both plans are in the upper 80s uh
which is low relative to the history of these plans um but very strong still relative to the
general uh US population of public pension plans which is shown on this page 57 This slide has
a lot of information but the uh black squares are the police and fire plan The gold diamonds
are the employee plan and they generally overlap So if you can't see both it's because they're
overlapping each other And this is showing over the last 10 years what the funded ratio has been
compared to the bars The colored bars represent the distribution of other public pension plans
throughout the US There's over 200 plans in this database that it's compared against And the
colors of the bars the darker shades of blue and green are the middle 50% of plans in the US
And you'll note that your plans are in the light blue up at the top And that means they're within
the top 25% of plans uh throughout the United States 2024 the bars aren't populated The data
is not available as we're now presenting results as all the other municipalities throughout the
country are also presenting results Um so we'll populate the 2024 bars next year when we come
and present this year's next year's information And just to wrap up I mentioned earlier about the
risks of the plan The valuation is based on one set of assumptions as to what's going to happen
in the future Notably the seven and a quarter% investment return each and every year We know
that's going to deviate from year to year but hopefully over the long term seven and a quarter
is the the right long-term expectation Um but experience is going to deviate You know we can't
foresee the future Uh if we would we'd be very rich obviously Um so uh note that experience can
affect the cost of the plan and the key drivers of the risk for these systems are the investment
risk risk that investments won't earn seven and a quarter over the long term Uh interest rate risk
risk that if interest rates drop there's going to be harder pressure on earning that seven
and a quarter over the long term Longevity and demographic You know if there's higher pay
raises then that's going to increase the cost of the plan If people live longer there's going
to be increased costs as well as assumption change risk which is basically recognizing all of
those changes in one year as opposed to letting experience occur from year to year That is all of
my prepared remarks Are there any questions i have a couple Yeah Um can you go to slide number 57 you
talked about you compare yourself to 200 plans and the city's plan is in the top 25% and I think
Mark also alluded to this is one of the better pension plans in the nation Um so do you know
if that has been um maybe I don't know if it's a question for you or for someone else from the city
but does that um really affect bringing new folks or retaining folks as city staff uh the pension
programs and um if so are we advertising it enough because if this is one of the better pension
plans in the nation working for the city of Witchah provides you not just your salary but also
a pension when you retire Um can you address that i will address it in general terms and let others
get to more specifics but uh I think it definitely plays a role or should play a role in the
attraction of employees because not all pension plans in the US are well funded You can see some
of those you know over 25% or below 60% funded uh and a lower funded ratio means that there is
a greater risk that plans may not be able to make the retirement payments when people retire And so
um better funded plans should in you know provide reassurance that their retirement is going to be
secure Um so I think in general terms yes that that should be a great news if you're trying to
attract and retain and the pension plan being a good key attraction driver But I'll open it up to
others if they want to add more commentary I'll ask city manager if this helps with recruitment
and if so um are we really advertising that we are one of the better pension programs in the
nation mayor it's a great question We've talked a little bit about our benefit program and how
it's perceived by uh employees and potential employees I would tell you just from anecdotal
information talking to some of our employees and our unions that today's newer employee may
not value a pension system as much as older employees have And so one of the things that we're
planning on doing in the next year is working with our employee groups that's our unions as well as
the unrepresented or non-represented uh employees to talk more about what they want in a uh in
a benefit package um and how does how do they make their decisions about not just uh joining our
organization but also what keeps them uh here um how do we retain folks and how do we meet their
needs though in a way that is um I think maybe modernized a little bit and recognize the um the
uh desires of our current employee base As you can imagine where you are in your career determines
how you value a pension system We have always represented that we're um highly funded We're in
that top group in terms of funding I can't tell you where we stand in terms of benefits although
I'm going to guess that we do pretty well compared to other public employers in terms of uh the
benefits in both of the pension systems uh upon retirement But those are all things that we'd like
to get more feedback from our employees about how we go forward with not just the pension system but
with health insurance and other benefits Thank you city manager Council member Johnson Thanks Mayor
I was just going to say great presentation and you're missing a slide at the end that says come
work for the city of Witchah That'd be the icing on the cake Thank you Vice Mayor Johnston Thank
you Mayor Uh question for Mark or the city manager How how much will this add to our budget versus
last year and then have we already anticipated that is it already included in our your
presumptions of the budget yeah you may recall uh I think at our last workshop we mentioned some
of the changes that we're monitoring Elizabeth and I always mention that and we mentioned pension
rates at that presentation and I think we placed an approximate cost on it of about $600,000 We'll
obviously refine that as we go along but at this point we believe it's somewhere around 600,000 out
of the general fund Additional $600,000 Yes Yes sir Mayor if I may also we do we've created
a pension reserve fund that will allow us to maybe smooth out some of the fluctuations in
pension increases uh from the city's contribution standpoint and we'll be looking at whether
or not it's appropriate to move some money from the pension reserve in 2026 or 2027 Uh and
that'll be part of our final recommendation Okay Thank you Council Member Glascock Thank you Mayor
Followup to that question Mr Manager How much is in the reserves currently approximately i don't
need an exact amount Uh right now Right now the pension reserve I believe has somewhere around
8.7 million 8.7 million Okay Thank you And last but not least slide number 52 I just wanted
to know if this is sustainable for a city our size We're talking about um the change in the
unfunded liability Yes Um that is not a overly significant increase Um we've seen more changes in
that unfunded liability numbers over the years Uh just to give you an idea the unfunded liability
for the police and fire plan is about $130ish million right now So the 2 million while is
still $2 million it's not a significant uh change The unfunded liability for the employee
plan is roughly $80 million So it is a notable um change and that's part of the reason why the
employee plan costs went up Um but as long as the city continues to make the u recommended
contributions the systems will continue to improve in their funding Thank you Thank you I
see no further questions from council members Is Mark coming back up or no I can handle
that I think Um so the recommendation is to receive and file the evaluation reports as
of December 31st 2024 and approve the 2026 employer city contribution rate Thank
you We will now open it up for public comment I see none I'll bring it back
to the bench Um I would like to first uh mention that the city of Wshaw has roughly
3,000 employees and we're grateful for them I know that it was public servants
uh month and week and day uh here uh recently And so I just wanted to say thank you
to the 3,000 plus staff for the city of Witchah uh they are critical to uh accomplishing the
mission of providing public safety and providing infrastructure so that uh the city can run and
that individuals can get to school and work And um I know that part of a um compensation package
includes salary um insurance and obviously uh your retirement plan And so I am uh thankful again
that uh city staff have these added benefits and this is something that uh should share should
be shared with not just our community but others uh that this is a great place to work uh because
the pension program has been funded um dedicated funding has been going to these pension plans and
it's one of the better ones in the nation and so um I just wanted to emphasize that again a
comprehensive um salary package includes this pension program And so um I would move that we
now um receive and file the Witchaw Employees Retirement and Police and Fire Retirement Systems
actuarial valuation reports as of December 31st 2024 and approve the 2026 employer retirement fund
contribution rates Second motion and a second Any further discussion i see none Mr Clerk please
open the role Motion passes 70 Mr Clerk please call the next item Affordable housing fund
allocation and sale of 47 single family homes Good morning mayor and c city council members
My name is Carmen Hoffine I'm the real property section manager for the Department of Housing
and Community Services and I'm here to present the affordable housing fund allocation and sale
of 47 single family homes For a little bit of background the city of Witchaw received 72.4
4 million in American Rescue Plan Act consider also called ARPA funds to support the response to
and recovery from CO 19 Investment in affordable housing was identified as a high priority for ARPA
funds following extensive public engagement and the council allocated $5 million for the creation
of an affordable housing fund On September 10th of 24 the city council allocated one a little over
$1.3 million in affordable housing funds to three affordable housing development organizations for
the purchase and renovation of 33 single family homes from the Witchaw Housing Authority public
housing portfolio Real estate closings on these properties were delayed due to the waiting for
HUD to execute the releases of the declarations of trust And now the reservations are currently
underway On November 5th 2024 the city council approved a $25,972 increase in the affordable
housing fund and the allocation of a little well almost $3.7 million in affordable housing funds
for the acquisition of 56 single family homes from the Witchaw Housing Authority public housing
portfolio The properties were to be made available through a competitive application process
also called CAP for the development of quality affordable homeowner and rental units with up to
$40,000 per unit in subsidy for acquisition and rehab costs By purchasing the pro properties prior
to the competitive application process the city has already received the necessary declarations
of trust release releases from HUD On January 24th of 25 a competitive application opened for
the sale and renovation of the 56 properties acquired with affordable housing funds with up
to $40,000 available to subsidize each property All units purchased and rehabilitated through
this program must be utilized as affordable housing upon completion of rehab subject to the
applicable affordability periods outlined in the following slide Proposals designed whether
units will designated I apologize proposals designated whether units will be marketed for
affordable home ownership or rental housing and were required to propose the use of one of the
following programs Affordable housing fund home ownership down payment assistance program This
assists up to 20% of the down payment and up to $2,000 in closing costs Households at or below
80% area medium income which is also AMI based on household size 10-year affordability period
subject to total funds invested The next one is the housing choice vouchers which is also known
as HCV a commitment to lease renovated units to HCV program participants for 15 years Households
at or below 50% of AMI A $40,000 deferred mortgage at 0% interest will be filed on each property
to ensure the affordable housing outcome is met As part of this cap developers were required
to present how their projects would benefit the neighborhood and community including fostering
a healthy mix of home ownership and rental opportunities Developers provided comprehensive
perunit specs for rehab to justify affordable housing fund funding requests for each unit
Proposals were evaluated on a unit-by-unit basis and developers were encouraged to submit proposals
for all units that could be completed within 18 months of contract Award proposals with six or
more public housing units received additional bonus points on a scaled basis Proposals were
selected and recommended by the affordable housing review board based on the following factors
Development plans and project approach credentials qualifications and expertise of development team
financial condition and performance record of applicant sources of financing affirmative
marketing plans participation in emerging disadvantaged minority and women business
enterprise unit development plans utilization of public housing unit feasibility of project
scope plan and timeline The CAP received 92 qualified proposals for 47 of the 56 properties
Upon the review and scoring of the proposals the affordable housing review board voted to approve
the sale and funding of all 47 properties that received qualified proposals including 13
properties for rehab and sale 34 properties for rehab and rental via tenantbased vouchers
The total affordable housing fund award of $1,846 46,051 will be granted to the following
Witchaw Habitat for Humanity up to $486,51 for 13 properties specifically for rehab and sale Hope
CDC up to $520,000 for 13 properties rehab and rental Sio Capital Group LLC up to $240,000
for six properties rehab and rental Large Enterprise up to $560,000 for 15 properties rehab
and rental There is no impact to the general fund The total affordable housing fund reallocation
will be an amount up to $1,846,000 $46,51 The remaining ARPA affordable housing fund
program income from the sale of the properties of a little over a million dollars will be
made available through a third competitive application process in the future The law
department has reviewed and approved the sales and funding agreements as to form And
before I go into the recommendations I did want to make a note on the green sheet The
there was an error as far as the amount of affordable housing funds On the green sheet it
says 1,86,000 and it should be 1,846,000 There was a lastm minute addition for one property It
is recommended that the city council approve the sale of the 47 properties and expenditure of
affordable housing funds up to the amount of 1,846,51 allocated as follows 520,000 to Hope
CDC 560,000 to Large Enterprise 240,000 to Sio Capital Group LLC 486,51 to Witchaw Habitat for
Humanity and authorize the necessary signatures And I will stand for questions There is a high
possibility I may defer to Sally just so you guys are aware Thank you Carmen Uh Council Member
Ho Heisel Thank you Mary And thank you Carmen for your your presentation and your work here I do
appreciate more uh the detailed explanation of the um competitive application process I do have
one question kind of I don't know this is adjacent to it Could you give a little bit of background
about the housing development loan program i know that's something that's been discussed in um
some circles surrounding affordable housing and just how to maybe set up the infrastructure
for some of these uh developments going on Yes I have the answer in my head Um so the housing
development loan program that is a big part of um so developers want to it could either be
renovate a property or build a property and that's specific for multif family It could
also be yeah it's specific for multif family um properties and a big part of that is the
lieac that's a big part of what that process is and well I'm going to ask Sally to come
up and probably am I saying that correctly hopefully I am Um but I know LITC is a big part
of that as far as what that process is and the funding part Go ahead Sally saying housing and
community services department for the record So house uh the housing development loan program
is a set aside of home funds that are used specifically for affordable unit development
whether that's rental or single family It can be for groundup construction or renovation
And many of our developer partners apply for uh that funding annually to build Um we've
seen particularly seen it for single family home ownership But more recently the two
applications we saw come last week were for gap funding for low-income housing tax credit
projects to provide that that local lowinterest um loan that scores them more points and
fills gaps to see those units be built Those applications are available so long as we have
funding available Um the applications we've had open applications for about 15 months with funding
consistently available We did see a slowdown in applications on the home ownership side just
due to the cost of rising the the rising costs related to labor and materials that especially on
the single family side Our developer partners are having a hard time even with significant subsidy
up to $90,000 in subsidy They're having a hard time making that work And so we're seeing we have
more funds available and dedicating more funds on the rental side What is the dedicated revenue for
that that is home funds So that comes that is HUD uh allocations as an entitlement community
That's the only source it is Okay Thank you Thank you Uh Carmen I do have a couple of
questions I was looking at um the application for from Beacon Property Group but they were
denied Is that correct can you tell us why so during the affordable housing fund board um
we did see the presentations and we discussed that and it they didn't seem as a as a strong
group Um and a big part of that is Beacon and Saio There were some one of the members of Saio
is also a part of Beacon and just the presentation and as far as what his plan was or their plan
was is a lot stronger for Senio than it was for Beacon I also saw Noble Investment Properties was
disqualified Can you talk about that too yes Um he did not provide a um proforma We didn't have
that and we did request it Thank you very much I am very happy to see both uh home ownership as
well as rental properties that are going to be available to here in our community So I like the
diversity in uh that spread and really looking forward to the next round where you get even more
uh individuals that want to participate Uh again housing and homelessness uh we talk about this
often They are tied These are one of our four top priorities So thank you for uh making an emphasis
and effort towards being part of that solution So thank you Carmen I see no further questions from
council We will now open it up for public comment I see none I'll bring it back to the bench Council
member Johnson Thanks Mayor Due to a personal conflict of interest I'll be abstaining from this
vote Coun Council member Glascock Thank you Mayor Because a majority of these projects reside in D1
and D4 um I would like to make the motion that the city council approve the expenditure affordable
housing funds up to the amount of 1,86,000 uh 0 1,86,000 86 846,000 Oh a typo Okay I recommend the
expenditure of the affordable housing funds up to the amount approved by staff in the
presentation um for the developers approved and authorize the necessary signatures Second
motion and a second Any further discussion i see none I just want to make sure that
the motion that we see gets corrected to 1.846051 Um motion and a second Any further
discussion i see none Mr Clerk please open the roll Motion passes Motion passes 6 with one
abstension Mr Clerk please call the next item Yeah Funding and public
art for 2025 OJ Watson Park improvements Mayor city council uh Tim Kellums um in public
work and utilities uh engineering here to talk to you about OJ Watson Park So background here OJ
Watson Park which is in district 3 is is one of the oldest and largest parks in the park system
and it is the only uh fully staffed destination park uh in the park system um has a variety of
amenities and I won't read all of them but some of the main ones uh to note for today are the the
pony rides uh the uh paddle boats and the kayaks and the seasons venue The season's venue has seen
a a a large draw has drawn a lot of people to OJ Watson Park I think it is a great investment and
really filled um activity on that side of the park Um we are seeing a lot of uh events and more
people coming to the park as a result of that uh investment into the into the space Um
staff recommends uh increasing accessibility and mitigation of erosion around the concessions
building The concessions building is also where uh the offices are for city staff that are there
Um and again there's a lot of that's kind of the first point of contact that we have for uh
city staff that are there at the park with the community that comes in um to the park to uh check
in for uh shelter rentals or if they have an event birthday parties who know who knows exactly what
all they're there for but that's kind of the first point that they uh come in and start interacting
with city staff So a good first impression is is always important Uh you can see here in the slide
uh in the pictures on the slide uh there's erosion significant erosion that's a hap that's happening
around the concessions building Um you can start to see the undermining of the sidewalk there
in the lower photo Um some of this is just not having the infrastructure there to help maintain
or address the erosion Um as well as um just over time it just hasn't I just think it hasn't really
been on the top priority list to get to We've uh made a lot of different improvements throughout
the um throughout the park and it's kind of time to start addressing some of the erosion issues
that are out there Um again trying to make sure that is as as accessible as possible You can
see um you know most of the pathways are pretty high up They're not they don't really go down to
the lakes There you can see there in that bottom photo there is a pathway that does go down into uh
closer to the lakes and that is where people use uh to access the uh the kayaks and the paddle
boats Uh so again trying to make sure that we are uh being mindful of of access and accessibility Uh
so that's kind of trying to tie in multiple things to this project here to address that erosion There
is um sediment that does come down it does go down towards the dock and does get on the pathways
So again trying to mitigate that and make it as safe as possible knowing that the uh kayaks and
the paddle boats are are highly used Uh we also uh utilized a grant for previous funding to help
improve that dock which was ages and ages years old Uh so we do have a new dock that's down there
uh that's more accessible and more user friendly So making sure that we're kind of tying these all
together to make a better user experience uh is kind of the goal with this uh first portion of the
the funds that we'd like to use uh or the projects we'd like to do with this uh project Staff also
recommends renovating the pony stables Uh there are seven ponies that live at OJ Watson Park Uh
they pretty much live in this area and then when they go out for the pony rides they they leave
but then this is kind of where they spend most of their time Uh you can see in some of these photos
uh there are you can see standing water there um in that top photo uh really right next to
where they where they live and where they sleep Um I think that the idea was to build berms many
many years ago to build berms around um the stable to kind of protect them from wind Um they never
really implemented um uh infrastructure to help get that water away Uh so while it may be nice for
wind it does not really keep it nice and dry which is important for those uh ponies um having the
prolonged puddling and muddy conditions is not not great for the ponies Um so improving sight
drainage uh and just increasing their the living conditions for the ponies we feel is is a great
value and something that is next on the list to do Um there is uh an art component to this that
was dedicated by um or allocated or identified through design council Um there is $100,000 for
it and city staff uh will identify locations to strategically integrate the public art We didn't
feel having a an art consultant made sense for this level of project Um it would take away from
the funds that would go towards the public art Uh we think that murals sculptures or mosaic
tiles throughout the park would be great There are a number of restrooms that are just kind
of white and bland They don't really provide a sense of uh sense of arrival or a sense
of place for the park that may be a great location for murals Also some folks do get kind
of turned around in OJ Watson Park Um there's actually quite a long roadway to go through and
I can understand how some people may get confused We feel that murals may be a good way to help
with wayfinding and identifying something like I don't know the the bison restroom It's over by
the bison restroom Right now it's kind of hard to understand exactly where you are especially for
first-time visitors that that come Uh growing up I hadn't I didn't really go to OJ Watson Park
that much Lived on different side of towns but have intimately been going to OJ Watson
as part of my job Um but first time there I did get kind of confused on exactly where
everything was Um so I can kind of relate to some folks that do get a little twist and turned
around Um so we think that public art would help identify well first providing some placemaking and
um way finding as one thing but also enhance the overall atmosphere of the park Uh especially when
we're start to see more people coming in for the season's venue I think it makes sense to try to
help enhance their experience Want to make them repeat customers for the city um and always keep
coming back There are so many different things at OJ Watson that you can't really do them all in
one visit So trying to make sure that they feel welcome to come back multiple times is kind of
the goal here Um and the public art will go to design council and will also come to city council
before implementation for for your approval And there'll be a call for entry to solicitate uh
the options to the art community We plan on you know with the call for entry we do have a
large list of local artists that we do release that to Uh so hopefully we'll get quite a bit
of of uh local artists interested in it Uh with mules we have a lot of different mules around
town I think that a good local artist would be a great fit for that Uh but again we'd have to
put the call out the call for entry out and then go before design council and city council So you
can all um approve of that before moving forward Um the adopted 2025 2034 CIP contains $325,000 uh
in 2025 for OJ Watson Park and 100,000 for public art Uh staff recommends initiating uh those two
combined for $425,000 At this time funding sources uh general obligation bonds and law department
has reviewed and approved the bonding resolutions as to form It is recommend that city council
initiate the project adopt the bonding resolution and authorize unnecessary signatures And I'm more
than happy to stand for any questions Thank you Tim Council member Ho Heisel Thank you mayor and
thank you Tim for the presentation and all your work You do a ton of work on our parks A couple of
quick questions When you talk accessibility um is that also considering uh handicap accessibility
as well yes Yep That's the goal is to make sure navigation is a lot easier um to and from our
different amenities So that's the plans to help make sure it's all the slopes meet the right
criteria It makes sense to get there Right now um it's a little hard to you kind of have
to backtrack some ways So it's a number of different things but yeah ADA accessibility
is part of that Okay appreciate that Um now when we're doing the murals is that going to be
weighted towards local artists yes I think so I think internally that's kind of our the push that
we'd like to have is to make that local I think um when we go to design council as we move forward
we can gain a little bit more feedback maybe on exactly what they have in mind or if this right
here today if you have things that you'd like for us to have in mind or criteria that you'd like
for us to use we we're more than happy and open to to take that now Okay Yeah Yeah I think that just
makes sense to support the local art community as much as we can Sure Um also I did grow up next to
this park so I am pretty familiar with it Um now we we had the Wizard of Oz sculptures there for
a while Is there any plans on maybe continuing to build on the Wizard of Oz theme with any of
that or any upgrades that we're looking at with the yellow brick road or anything around there
i know Senator FDA has also talked about ruby slippers but I don't think she necessarily wants
them at Watson Park but it still does make sense as well Sure Yeah I hadn't um I think we're we're
still open and thinking that about that So any feedback So that that's great to hear if that's
the direction that that you like for us to pursue then I think that's something that we can look at
and explore and kind of see what comes back And obviously we'd present to this council and and get
feedback Okay Yeah Yeah It was just a thought Um I I again the the tin man and Dorothy and all that
back in the day and the tornado that was always pretty neat It's not as iconic as the little
red train which you know is probably the most iconic thing in our park system that actually
works It's not a rocket ship that sits there and does nothing Never mind All right Well thank
you Tim I appreciate that Council member Johnson Thanks Mayor Um Tim great presentation Just wanted
to echo support for the mural The one at uh Great Plains is awesome We had a great ribbon cutting
for that and people still talk about it I too did not live by Watson Park So having some murals
and things to point to I think would be good um for people to like you said be over there
by the bison bathroom or whatnot But um I think that's a good idea I support that Also support
pushing for local artists So looking forward to seeing what happens Council member Tuttle Thank
you I'm just going to pile on a little bit more Um sorry to be redundant but Tim great job Thank
you for all you do Always appreciate it One of the things that I say consistently when we're talking
about projects such as this is it's not as much public art as public design right and and I always
refer people back to East Kellogg There isn't a sculpture slapped on the side of East Kellogg but
how we designed it is what makes it inviting and vibrant and unique And I think this is another
perfect example And I love the fact that you're going to use murals for wayfinding That's really
a win-win right because we're incorporating design into making beautifification efforts in this park
but it's also going to be something that's useful and helpful We probably have to spend money
on wayfinding anyway but this way we're able to incorporate it with also the design So thank
you for being a great thinker I really appreciate it And thanks for all you do Tim Sure Thank you
Vice Mayor Johnston Well I have to say something Councilman O'Hisel I did grow up going to O L O
L O L O L O L O L O L O L O L O L OJ Watson Park back when the entrance was off Broadway When did
that change it still is open on occasion but about a decade ago they opened it up on um Mlan with
uh some of the improvements over there So it's still open on the weekend You can take that back
entrance off of Kell and Okay Or I mean Broadway Good to know Yeah want to instead of third I'm
going to fourth I also grew up around OJ Watson Park and I think that that is a really great asset
Uh you mentioned this is one of the largest parks in the city's park system Um and when we think
about other communities south of us they have one park and we talk about that park often and
I'm not even going to say it because that's what they're known for Yet we have an amazing park
system Um but people don't just say we have an amazing park system So I'm just curious Um I
know that we're going to have a park master plan coming up Um and this kind of ties into the whole
conversation about you know we have a Wizard of Oz theme down there but there are others who think
Wizard of Oz theme should be in our downtown core and it is part of who we are as well So I'm just
curious how that cohesively can be part of the uh conversation because um I do believe leaning
into parts of who we are whether it's the air capital of the world or um part of Wizard of Oz
and um you know this is home uh to the keeper of the plains I mean we have a lot of things that tie
to who we are but not one thing And so how does a park system kind of think strategically about
how to cohesively bring the system together sure Great question Um I think one of the one of the
things that uh I think is kind of important for first impressions and this is just kind of one
thing that we've kind of started doing or one thing that we have but we are improving on is park
signage Making sure that we're creating a brand identity and making sure that we're tying all
of our parks together I think you know the wood signs they they have their appeal but I think
having something that's new and modern kind of helps identify and ties it back to the city of
Witchaw um and kind of provides that again that tie and that branding standard I think beyond
that having the same amenities the same looking um similar shelters there are places to go above
and beyond at different locations but when we start creating a um standard specifications on how
we have our parks look I think that's a great way to help tie things together Um if we have standard
you know benches and things like that it's a lot easier to tie them all together from just a simple
thing that no one really ever pays attention to But if you have blue benches we're not using blue
benches but if we have blue benches in all of our parks everyone knows that okay well that's a
city park that's not you know an HOA park There's not something different I think beyond that um I
think I think there are benefits to having unique um things in each park And I'm I'm thinking
about um the different parks kind of the the main parks in each of your different districts um
that really draw people And I think they all have their own unique things Like South Lakes is a lot
different than OJ Watson which is different than Striker which is different than McAdams They're
all different I think that there's there's ways to try to tie those together I'm interested to
see how the park master plan what their thoughts are on doing that I think simple easy ways to do
that is making sure our uh site amenities are the same our signage is the same wayfinding is pretty
similar Um using similar materials uh tends to do that Those are simple ways to do that And I think
in the CIP we're we're doing that too in in many other ways for um athletic courts and athletic
fields Kind of creating a standard brand or making sure that all of our playgrounds are look the same
Um we're still trying to check off some of those ones that we you know it takes a while to get to
everything but trying to make sure that all the playgrounds look similar have a high level quality
Um different basketball courts We're doing a project now for the basketball courts Um years ago
we had moved and transitioned to a more like clear backboard which is something that's kind of minor
and most people don't really know or care but it looks a lot nicer And I think we've heard from the
community that they feel they feel more valued and they feel uh appreciated when they do have those
nice amenities like that It may not it may cost maybe just a little bit more but it provides a
feeling of of being heard and um a sense of of um appreciation for being in those spaces So I know
that that's something that we're we're looking we're looking to do and make those little things
that do make that difference Thank you Tim Council member Glasco Thank you Mayor I think Councilman
Balor and I felt excluded that we didn't tell our OJ Watson stories too so we both came on But we're
very appreciative of the park Um I remember tons of family reunions there And I have also gotten
lost there multiple times So the wayfinding signs I think I got locked in on the island one night um
when I was trying to clean it up And so my hatred for geese actually started out OJ Watson Park
as well So very supportive of this Um I think the murals are a great way to a great and more
affordable way to uh beautify the area And I do love the Wizard of Oz theme I think it's very
unique to that park system Now we don't need that all in WTO ever stereotype but I think there makes
sense So thank you Council Member Ballard Thank you mayor Yes I was feeling left out um about not
sharing my OJ Watson story So my dad did take us and of course I wanted to ride the ponies until I
got there and it's just absolutely terrifying But uh Council Member Glascock and I went down there
I don't know several months ago and checked on the ponies and they're still there and and doing
well So um yeah I'm super excited about um the improvements in this park Um we know a lot of
people go to Riverside but I suppose they probably go to other parks and other districts too So I'm
excited for the project and happy for Council Member Hoel Council member Johnson Thanks Mayor
Um just to add to the discussion I know everyone loves The Wizard of Oz but also Hattie McDaniels
from Witchah starred in Gone with the Wind So there could be some themes there to highlight
her being from Witchah and Gone with the Wind Thank you for all those questions I do have a
technical question now Um how much is the total CIP for improvements in this area again um I don't
have for district three off the top of my head Um are you asking for just in 2025 just the CIP for
uh 25 to 34 I apolog I do not have that number in front of me Uh it's okay Maybe from now on uh
for financial considerations if we could get that full idea of what a budget for that park is in the
CIP that gives us a perspective of what additional things might needed Um again a suggestion for
financial so that we can think more holistically Um and then the other question or more a comment
um on slide 85 did you mention that there will or will not be a consultant for this um we did
not feel that um having an art consultant was appropriate for this project I don't think so
either So thank you very much and I really do appreciate this specific item because we're
talking about maintenance and maintaining our current assets Obviously OJ Watson with
all these stories that you just heard from the council and from community about um such
a wonderful asset that it is we want to make sure that it is wellmaintained and uh priority
for things like ease of access for individuals with mobility issues to just finding their way
around I appreciate So thank you for the extra um effort on the maintenance piece Sure I see
no further questions or comments from council We will now open it up for public comment I see
none I'll bring it back to the bench This is in council member Hohheisel's district Thank you
Mayor Um it's there really is a privilege to um do some work on this park Um Haunted Island
which is now Wicked Island as part of my childhood as well I actually take the kids there every year
kind of scare the the crud out of them with that one That's always fun And who of course has not
ridden the iconic red train that goes around there So um it's again it's a privilege to um
make this motion for the best park in Witchah I don't care what March Pack uh pardon this says
but um so I'd like to move that the city council initiate the project adopt the bonding
resolution and authorize the necessary signatures Second motion and a second Any further
discussion i see none Mr Clerk please open the role Motion passes 70 Mr Clerk please call the
next item Beverage services for municipal golf courses All right Mayor city city council Uh
my name is Jesse Kaufman I'm the manager of the golf division and I'm here regarding the uh
beverage services for the four municipal golf courses Um some background on this We have
four uh golf courses that are operated by the golf division of the Witchaw Park and
Recreation The beverage service contract supplies non-alcoholic beverages for the snack
bars allowing for better cost use of coolers and the in the equipment delivery of products
and e easy ordering procedures Uh services uh over the last five years have been
provided by Pepsi Beverage Company uh analysis A request for proposals was sent was
issued to solicit vendors for this service The current vendor Pepsi was the only vendor to submit
a proposal And on March 6th of this year the staff screening and selection committee conducted an
interview and determined that Pepsi met all of the criteria to proceed as the selected vendor Pepsi
offered competitive rates in its proposal offering lower rates than the previous contract And as part
of the proposed contract the golf division will receive an annual rebate of $11,500 at the start
of each year as well as $1,000 in marketing and promot promotional materials annually Financial
considerations a contract has been prepared with Pepsi for set prices per unit for an extensive
product portfolio And in 2024 the golf division spent 1,00 $145,496 with Pepsi Actual annual
expenditures will vary based on golf course snack bar sales and funding is available within
the adopted golf fund budget Legal considerations and recommended action The law department has
reviewed and approved the contract as to form and it is recommended that the city council
approve the vendor selection approve the contract and authorize the necessary signatures
And with that I will stand for any questions Thank you Jesse Council member Ballard Thank you Mayor
Jesse Thank you for being here Um I'm sorry this is a redundant question I ask all the time but
do you have any idea why Pepsi is the only one that submitted a proposal i do not Um we had sent
I know we had made others aware and they were the only one that submitted and from my understanding
five years ago they were the also the only ones that submitted So I don't know the reason why
but it's uh seems like it's happened the last two times Interesting Thank you very much Vice Mayor
Johnston Thank you Mayor Jesse Just I want to just thank you for doing a great job Uh golf course is
looking better and better Your staff is wonderful Uh very welcoming customer serviceoriented
So I I appreciate that Thank you very much I appreciate that Pain placement sometimes a
little tough but that's just for you Thank you Thanks Jesse I see no further questions for you
We'll now open it up for public comment I see no public comment We'll bring it back to the bench
This is in districts 1 four and six Any council member would like to move it I will I' move
to take the recommended action to approve the vendor selection approve the contract and
authorize the necessary signatures Second motion and a second Any further discussion
i see none Mr Clerk please open the role Motion passes 70 Mr Clerk
please call the next item Ice center management change Good morning Mayor and Council Uh Reggie Davidson
with Parks and Wreck Here to talk with you about the ice man management uh contract Give you a
little background on it Uh in 2021 the Department of Parks and Recreation issued a rec request for
a proposal for solicit a uh company to manage the uh Witchah Ice Center And January the 18th of 2022
uh city council approved a professional management services agreement with Reek Management Services
Uh the initial term continues through uh December uh 31st of 2026 uh with the potential five
annual extensions at the uh city's auction Arm SC's owner is uh currently retiring and
uh transitioning Army SC management to sports facilities company SFC Uh staff has performed
due diligence and investigating FSC to ensure that it will be a good fit for continuing the
professional management services agreement for the Witchah Ice Center Uh the following is
a summary of the due diligence uh that was performed Uh FFC will provide a qualification
document outlining its uh expertise in sports facility management uh expertise in ice uh arena
management as well as other types of facilities A listing of other managed ice uh skating venues of
similar size as well as top leadership uh resumes and a transition timeline for the first 90 days
Additional analysis uh parks and recck obtained positive references from uh two FSS uh FSC managed
facilities uh similar to the Witchah Ice Center Uh one was Morristown Landing in Morristown uh
Tennessee uh Legends Event Center in Brian Texas uh references worked with FSC for over the the
last year and uh according to them that they met and exceeded the goals set for the requirements
of the agency and the references uh indicated FSC work closely with internal staff outside
contractors and customers and has maintained a good communication throughout the uh relationship
uh FSC provided a certificate of good standing from the Kansas Secretary of State's office also
disclosed any current uh pending civil civil litigations and current MM SRMS staff at the ICE
center will remain the current regional manager and also uh maintain all the current staff that's
currently in place would have impact on current operations So uh legal considerations uh and
financial situ consideration is uh compensation for the professional management service will
remain the same and will continue to be issued uh from the ice rink fund Uh the law department
has reviewed the professional management service agreement with RMSC and has determined that it
will allow RMSSC to assign the obligations on the agreement to another party by the city's consent
uh which shall not be unreasonably withheld for the terms of the agreement to benefit the bind
RMSC successors affiliates and assigns the law department has uh reviewed and approved the
contract assigned as to form It is recommended that the city council approve the contract
assignment and authorize the necessary signatures And I will stand for uh any questions Reggie
thank you Councilman Glascott Thank you Vice Mayor Quick question for you Reggie Given previous
operators at this facility I am interested in item four where it says SFC disclosed its per its
current pending civil litigation How many cases are there um that wasn't in our packet um and
I know that they may not be able to talk about specifics of their litigation but are they in
a lot of active suits is that just standard procedure that we have on here that there's just
a fourth bullet for it could you offer any context sure So it is part of our due diligence just to
make sure that there aren't any pending litig litigations and through the research that we did
have uh there were some that were there but they were normal things that were maybe related to
operations where a triple fall or something of those natures not anything that was anything
that was considered uh negligence on their behalf just part of operations where there may be
an injury Okay Thank you I really appreciate that I don't know if this question was asked
but um how much is the actual professional management services compensation so what
we pay them uh for the fee is $6,500 per month and then they manage the fund that
is there for the ike ring system itself and uh report to us monthly on what those expenses
are and we monitor really closely with our finance department to see that they're on task to to
stay within those guidelines Thank you very much I have no further questions none from the
council so we'll open it up for public comment I see none We'll bring it back to the bench
This isn't council member GlassCox's district Council member Hohheisle Thank you Mayor Um
I just wanted to point this out to the public Um we do have a termination due to lack of funding
appropriation uh clause in here that if they're not putting the appropriate money and care into
the system uh we can give them 90 days uh notice and cancel the contract And it sounds like this
will be about a year and a half kind of a trial project with this group So um I hope we have
nothing but good things to say here in a year and a half when this comes back to us for an extension
That's all I had Thank you Council Member Glascock Thank you Mayor I'm also hopeful that the current
management staying in place I noticed that in this agreement they've been incredible to work
with and somebody that I've relied on to have a lot of conversations with the eye center I think
have taken care taken care of very appropriately as well So with that and seeing that there
is nobody else on the board I move that the city council approve the contract assignment and
authorize the necessary signatures Second Second Motion and a second Any further discussion
i see none Mr Clerk please open the roll I sorry I don't know It's frozen All good Uh motion passes 70 Mr Clerk
please call the next item Funding for water reuse alternatives study Good
morning mayor and council members Gary Jansen public works and utilities I'm excited to be here
to have this discussion about the future of water supply and resiliency for our community and our
region Uh I have members of our consultant design team CDM Smith with me And at some point here
later in presentation I'm going to introduce Sarah and have her talk to you a little bit about what
CDM brings to this effort So uh the item before you is a request for funding and contract approval
for a water reuse alternative study You will see as we go through this presentation it's a lot more
than just a study Uh this includes implementation of state regulations uh robust public engagement
identification of funding sources uh potential pilot and demonstration projects that will allow
uh better public engagement and understanding So a lot of things happening with this I wanted to
start uh with something that you've seen before that I've talked about as I've been out especially
in 2025 and engaging with the public in numerous places Uh all the district advisory boards
numerous HOAs uh actually had a discussion with the Andover City Council just last night about
these particular efforts and what we're talking about for long-term water resiliency I get asked a
question a lot about what is Witchah doing we hope that you're not just sitting back and waiting for
it to rain And needless to say we are not doing that So I wanted to set the foundation again of
where we're at with our current water supply the things that we've done uh the options that we've
looked at and why we think this makes sense to move forward uh with this item that is before you
today So Genie Reservoir as everybody's aware is kind of the source of our not kind of but is the
source of our problem with this ongoing drought Um and our secondary water resource is the
equipeds aquafer We've talked a lot about what we have done with our recharge efforts for the
equispeds over the years The council's committed considerable funds as part of our rate structure
uh to establishing and continuing our ASR program It's kept the equispetss aquifer healthy It's
currently at 92% full It's pretty remarkable considering a drought that we have been through
for this length of time Uh while we will we have still have ongoing efforts within the equis beds
for building additional recharge basins which are going to optimize being able to refill the aquafer
if you will Uh we believe uh the point where we get past these current efforts with these recharge
basins that additional funding uh within the equis beds will not provide the return on investment
we've previously seen And so it makes even more sense to start looking in different directions
for what our our new water sources might be We also have something that's not shown on this map
and sometimes I forget to mention we do have water rights along the Ark River near our current water
treatment plant what we call our local well field Uh currently our CIP includes funding to optimize
those wells also so that we can realize uh all of our water rights in that location So I think we've
done a really good job uh to optimize and utilize what our native water rights are We've obviously
have all the water rights within Cheni We have a certain amount of water rights within the equis
beds We've got the local whale field There's two other items that come up quite a bit that I wanted
to talk about real quick And you've heard me talk about these two but I wanted to hit on this again
because again everywhere I go and the people I talk to I still hear these same questions which
is good to hear Uh it certainly helps to be able to have those interactions El Dredo Lake uh is not
far away I get asked the question a lot Why don't we get water from El Dredo i won't spend a lot of
time on it I'll just mention what I've mentioned to you Again we've conducted numerous studies
over the years that shows when we get uh into some point in time in a regional drought the water
is just not available from El Dredo There are some water rights available El Dredo provides water
uh to other uh places in the region than just El Dredo but there is just not enough water to
be sustainable to provide a supply for Witchah especially when you look at the cost of conveyance
and what that return on investment would be It's it's a very small amount of water and for a very
short period of time depending on where we're at in the drought So it's not a viable source I still
get asked the question a lot about why don't we dredge Cheni uh make a bigger hole so that when
we rain we get back to the original capacity and we've got more water to use Uh city council has
done a tremendous job over the years of providing funding for wershed protection measures Uh we work
with McFersonen County We work with uh the Cheni uh lake groups to provide uh protection within
the upstream of the reservoir in the NUSCAR river basin that limits the sedimentation into Cheni
A study was completed by the Kansas Water Office the last one it was done for Cheni showed that uh
lost capacity with 5 to 7% which is pretty amazing for as long as a reservoir has been there Uh give
you some perspective of Tuttle Creek Reservoir in Manhattan uh currently has lost over 50% capacity
due to sedimentation So we're in a great place uh to try to dredge that small amount of sediment
Tremendous cost uh very little return would only gain us maybe an extra month of water supply So
it's not a viable option either We've looked there We will continue to look for other options uh with
the way that water rights are appropriated across not just our state but many states Uh you know
I hear from a lot of folks about why don't you go grab water somewhere else There's not a lot
of options uh for additional water rights But I think we've done a really really good job uh with
being strategic and optimizing our water rights And without our drought response plan that
we have in place and the things that we've done we would be in a lot worse shape right now
continuing h uh considering how long this drought has gone on Uh but I'm excited about the next
steps that that we're ready to take So as the drought conditions continue to impact our surface
water supply at Cheni we need to have a strategic and focused approach to future water resiliency
uh for this region It's extremely critical that we're having this conversation today I think
the timing is right uh and we're excited to move forward pending your approval of this item We
need to expand and diversify our water portfolio and this study will help identify the most viable
options So we have ventured into uh recycling and reuse already We've been doing this since 2015 I
just want to provide a a reminder of what we've done with Spirit So the map on the left I know
there's a lot of stuff there So if you see kind of through the middle to the left is south to
the uh right is north The top yellow uh pin is our main wastewater treatment plant at the south
end of Witchaw 57th and hydraulic in district 3 Uh since 2015 we have been providing recycled reuse
water if you will uh from that facility to Spirit uh nearly a million gallons a day I recently
heard uh Representative Spirit at the Rotary talking about the value this has brought to
them as part of their overall sustainability and recycle efforts They continue to use this We
have a contract with them uh that provides up to that million gallons a day Spirit did fund uh the
infrastructure for this and and the reason why I mention that is because we've looked at other
uh places previously for doing this golf courses Uh we've got multiple wastewater facilities around
the community Northwest Far East uh and then south are are kind of our main three facilities that
we could look at reuse from Uh but this what this study will do uh will take a a look at additional
opportunities And this approach to recycling treated waste water for industrial and commercial
reuse is one that merits further analysis and consideration which we plan to do There are
other industries out there that could utilize um this type of recycle And I might mention
real quick I use the term reuse and recycle And I'm I'm using them interchangeably within the
industry It really comes down to what is could be used for portable use for drinking water For our
purposes right now I'm going to talk use recycle and reuse And I should have mentioned that sooner
Basically the same way right so we want to take the resources that we have and reuse them to the
best of our ability So our ultimate goal uh beyond looking at additional industrial reuse which is a
big part of this study and we think there's value in that for future conservation uh our ultimate
goal for recycling and reuse is to look at what we call direct portable reuse Uh this is the
treatment of wa w w w w w w w w w w w w w w w w w w w w w w w w w w w w w w w w w w w w w w
w w water to provide an innovative opportunity to create an additional safe and clean drinking
water supply for the future I'll show you a couple things here on the next slide that'll kind of help
illustrate what it is that we're looking at There are other states uh who have developed regulations
There are not currently state regulations in Kansas that allow direct quotable reuse Uh we've
been following closely what other states are doing and and will watch and see utilize the information
of things that they've done uh to be able to move forward with this effort here Direct putable reuse
could allow the city to furnish additional water during periods of prolonged severe drought and
meet water demand growth well into the future So what does this look like uh if you can make
out the picture on the left you've probably seen this diagram before We use this a lot to talk to
folks in the community about how our water cycle works And really what we're looking at here is
closing the loop uh on the circle for our water cycle At the top of this picture on the left is
Cheni Reservoir and Equis beds It shows our two main water supplies That water is uh pumped into
our water treatment plant It's distributed out to uh a system and a network of residential
businesses commercial businesses industrial uses that part in the middle Uh whatever goes out
from those uh places and those facilities goes to our wastewater treatment facilities I mentioned
we've got numerous facilities around the community Um that gets treated uh to certain standards um
to public health standards not to drinking water standards Uh but per regulation it gets treated
and it's disposed of in our rivers and streams So if you see at the bottom of that picture
in the middle you can see that discharge to the river Picture on the right is that same thing
of what actually happens at our main wastewater treatment plant Again what we call plant two at
the south end of Witchaw 25 million gallons a day uh that goes into the Ark River goes downstream
for somebody else to use We believe and we're going to confirm this soon uh because we've had
this discussion in the past that we have the rights to that water Um and so the notion of us
capturing that water treating it uh using advanced treatment which I'm going to talk about in just
a moment treating it to drinking water standards we can create our own water supply We can close
this loop on our water cycle uh for many years to come So something I want to note before I get
off this page and I mention it and I'll say it again someone else is going to utilize this water
downstream eventually I've heard KDHE staff talk about everyone's downstream of someone else right
uh so some of the water that we capture in our uh bank wells we call them for the Ark River and even
what we're doing with ASR is water that came from a facility like most likely like this upstream
from us as we started into this with looking to hire a consultant Uh CDM has a tremendous public
engagement consultant that's been involved with reuse for many many years Sarah's going to talk
about them in just a moment Uh but I heard her say and this really resonated with me that if
you live in New Orleans and drink the water there you're drinking water that's been treated
11 different times by the time it gets there So I think that's important to keep in mind of
the value of this resource and what it is that we're doing So there's a long road ahead of us
but I think we're we're off to a good start with where we want to go with this So keep in mind that
water that's being discharged to the river Uh this looks highly technical because it kind of is I'm
not going to get into the details of this because I couldn't if I wanted to on the left where you
see that says treated wastewater captured Uh what this cycle shows is how we would treat waste water
through the recycling process What we call this direct portable reuse That same discharge that
you saw to the river would be captured U that's what we'll figure out the best uh most economical
way to do that And it goes through a multibarrier treatment approach advanced treatment purification
uh what comes out of that process uh will most likely be cleaner water than we provide from our
water treatment plants right now because of what's in place What we've seen other states do with
regulations the regulations are very stringent and they require that level of treatment to make sure
that uh public health is is held paramount first and foremost This direct portable reuse creates
an additional water supply for the future and we really think that we can lead the way for Kansas
because again right now there are no regulations for the state of Kansas There's a project that's
currently broke ground in El Paso is one of the most recent ones for direct portable reuse Uh the
there I've I've read about the project numerous times I know they're excited to be moving forward
with that uh there's regulations in Colorado and California also and there's numerous projects
moving forward in in certain parts of the country to do this same thing So uh the approach itself
for this reuse study the project will include engineering and other professional services to
identify and explore opportunities for water recycling and reuse The staff screening and
selection committee interviewed five proposing firms and recommended CDM Smith on the basis
of project approach schedule staff assignment previous similar projects and expertise Uh
council members Tuttle and Hohheisel thank you for sitting on our selection committee Uh
we had some very good uh firms that proposed on this project a lot of knowledge and a lot of
expertise and we're happy to be moving forward with this recommendation today work will include
establishing baseline water quality conditions treatment requirements and technologies was what
a little bit of what I just looked at with you and developing formal regulations again for
direct portable reuse for the state of Kansas We've started this conversation with KDH already
I started talking to them actually last year Um they're on board to have this conversation
pending your approval today We already have uh several meetings set up in Topeka next week
with staff myself staff our consultant and several state agencies to really start digging
into what this looks like and where this can go Other elements will include identifying
funding opportunities addressing requirements for qualifying applications for that funding
and developing a strategy for implementing non-potable industrial reuse and direct portable
reuse Um just like I talked about so we're going to be looking for funding opportunities
on the state and federal levels When the Bureau of Reclamation was here last fall uh
to talk about the funding award for some of our ASR improvements we started talking to them
about this concept Uh they were excited to hear that we were moving in this direction They they
indicated then that they have funding available for both planning and imple and implementation of
projects like this So we're going to definitely be working on that as soon as we can Public
engagement and outreach is absolutely critical It's probably one of the most critical parts of
uh this process and this type of project It is what has made this work in other states again So
we've watched we we're looking U CDM Smith has a lot of experience and has worked in other states
that they're going to bring to the table Sarah will talk about them more in a moment Uh but
there's um this is we're going to take off and hit the ground running soon with public engagement
Outreach messaging and strategies will include the creation of a project steering committee that
will provide a broad spectrum of support and uh a wide variety of opinions for water recycling
and reuse applications It's important that we hear uh from as many people in our community as
we can as we move forward with this effort In addition to I mentioned KDHE and the Department
of Agriculture outreach will extend to public health organizations healthc care providers the
restaurant and hospitality industry wholesale water customers and more Uh we continue to take
all the opportunities that we can I think I've got uh in the next 45 days another 20 engagements
to talk to a variety of folks about this effort to make sure everybody understands where we're headed
what we're looking at try to make sure that that we're providing the most information we can but
really once we get moving forward with CDM Smith is going to provide the most value We've talked
to all of our wholesale customers about this In fact I've got a meeting with all of them in two
weeks uh to make sure that they understand what we're looking at as far as this reuse effort
in particular with direct portable reuse Um I one last thing I want to mention and I'm going
introduce Sarah and let her talk about CDM Uh I'm fortunate to have a seat on the Kansas Water
Authority and was recently appointed appointed uh to the new state program water task
force and and so the reason why I say that is because I've had the opportunity
on the water authority in the last year um as we they looked at a statewide water plan
funding uh to talk about our efforts in Witchah My position on either one of those is not to make
sure things happen in Witchaw but to provide a perspective of what we're doing in the state's
largest city and to hopefully look at something like direct portable reuse being applicable across
the entire state So I'm excited to move forward with those conversations Having gotten to that
point uh I want to introduce Sarah Stewart Sarah is a senior vice president project manager for CDM
Smith and I'm going to have her talk to you about uh CDM what they bring to this uh their experience
and all the great things they've done with reuse Good morning Yeah you hear me okay I'm a little
shorter than he is Um so CDM Smith just a little bit about our firm Um we're a little over 6,700
employees worldwide We've been in business for 77 years Um recently and and I'll say my personal
experience with Witchah stands a little later than that I started working with the city on
the ASR program 15 years ago Um more recently I've had the honor of working with the city as the
project manager on the plant to BNR improvements biological nutrient removal program uh that
we're in construction with Um CDM Smith's also performing the SCADA programming and we are um
well on way working on the bio gas utilization and organic waste receiving program uh which actually
will be getting SOIS out this summer So uh moving things forward the team that we've brought today
um like we said our best and brightest Um so Jesse V here with me u myself as project manager I'll
add I am a resident of the state of Kansas so a little bit north of here though Um our team's
highlighted by our national practice leader Greta Zorns and Anthony Zamaro Uh they've
led these reuse studies and design piloting um nationwide Caric Misari He's out of Arizona
Caric is new to our firm because for the his previous job was with the state of Arizona writing
the DPR regulations on how to implement these type of projects for the state So he'll be guiding us
and helping us work with the state of Kansas in developing and implementing and making sure that
what we do here protects the public and meets the state's goals moving forward Stacy Barta is our
funding discipline lead As you all know to do anything it has to start with how can we afford it
So we'll be starting that process this summer and identifying how can we leverage both um local and
national funds to help the affordability of this And finally and possibly most importantly is the
other Sarah on our team Uh Cats and Associates is a public outreach firm specializing in
communicating about water reuse and water um water projects across the nation So Sarah will
be working with the community with Megan and city staff on developing a community outreach program
tailored to our community and really meeting this the goals for the city of Witchah Um a little bit
of the highlights Uh we literally wrote the book on some of this stuff folks I know that sounds
a little silly but we did The EPA guidelines for water reuse Um we authored the initial um report
in 1980 updated it again four more times Katz and Associates wrote the WORF book on community
outreach related to reuse studies We've done a variety of pilots DPR demonstration facilities
across the US Um you can see here Oh okay Map shows up good up there The um this is focused more
on the reuse side of things on the portable side So when we talk about portable that means drinking
water There's also the term non-potable which is things like golf course irrigation We are looking
at both We want to water is a resource that we need to optimize as much as possible You all
know that with all the communications on drought So um the one thing I want to add to all
of this and just wrapping up is this reuse study isn't just one study So there is the
citywide water reuse study Um our goal is by really December January that we're in a um
good form and draft form to come back to the council and talk about recommendations and steps
forward from that Um it'll include as I said the non-potable side So things like irrigation
spirit reuse that's the non-potable things also the portable reuse piece So the piece that
Gary was speaking about of taking the effluent from plant two and treating it and treating
it and treating it treating it and treating it again and using that back in the community Um
but beyond that the first step towards developing that DPR is really developing a pilot work plan
To do something like this takes a lot of study analysis piloting demonstration proving out that
this is safe for the public Um so that study will be done over the summer and the reason being is
that we're targeting submitting it to the Bureau of Wreck for funding as a feasibility study
in September That deadline is from last year Uh they haven't published this year's deadline
We're assuming it's the same So that is a big um early out deliverable for us is again trying
to leverage that federal funding Um we will be doing a full funding strategy plan There's more to
that than just this first out first early out item The community outreach we were just spoking
that the sooner the better on that to really um bolster and work with Gary and the community
on um speaking to your citizens about this And finally the out regular outreach piece We're
going to be there on May 19th in Topeka to start um getting into the details of um how to move
this forward for the city and for the state Carrie thank you Sarah It's painfully obvious I should
have introduced this item and stepped out of the way So I appreciate your input Uh last thing I've
got for you on the financial consideration side is the total cost of the proposed contract is just
under $1.2 million The adopted CIP includes a project that's titled phased water supply plan
uh that we knew this was coming and would be utilized for this uh purpose So we're asking to
initiate $1.2 million from 2025 today I just want to reiterate that this study will estimate future
phase costs and identify funding sources We don't know yet uh what any parts of this are going to
cost uh because it's really going to depend on where we end up Our focus is really on this uh
side the direct portable reuse side Uh we know it's going to be expensive It's going to take
some time but the value that this could bring to our community for long-term water resiliency
is something that we really need to have a better understanding uh know what that cost look like
And then we're going to do everything we can to hopefully leverage outside funding for the same
Uh with that staff recommends city council approve the recommended study budget and contract adopt
the uh resolutions and the notices of intent and authorize the necessary signatures And we'd be
happy to stand for any questions Thank you Gary and Sarah We begin with Council Member Tuttle
Thank you Thank you Gary for the presentation I do have one question and then I have several
comments You knew I would Um I was fortunate enough to attend the Kansas Municipal Utilities
Conference with Don Henry Thank you for letting me tag along and we talked it was a specific
session on direct portable reuse and it was fascinating and and I kind of learned the answer
but I think as we go into this more other people may start asking this question so just want to
bring it to the forefront before I bring in lots of kudos Um you mentioned downstream right and
everybody's water came from someone else's water If we do direct portable reuse what are the
implications for the people downstream from us who may now there's not going to be water
I just want to highlight it if we can So one of our and thank you that's a good question One
of our first efforts I talked about meeting with uh Kansas Department health environment and the
department of agriculture next Monday in Topeka That's one of the first things that we're going to
tackle with uh Department of Agriculture and the Division of Water Resources Uh who has authority
over water rights over the course of time we've had discussions with them about uh who has the
water rights to what you see here this effluent that's going to the river We have every reason
to believe that we do We're going to confirm that first and foremost before we go any further
here because you ask a great question There are situations uh not even just in our state but other
areas there's compacts between states uh when it comes to water that requires uh certain releases
of water from communities to keep going downstream uh typically it's not in a situation like this
uh because we have created this output from our water supplies our water rights within Cheni and
the Aqua Speds kind of sort of as a way to sum it up but uh we're going to confirm that first and
foremost because this takes a whole different look uh if for some reason that's not what we thought
it was but I feel confident about where we're at with that Okay now for some comments Um I first of
all want to say congratulations for getting on the state um water reuse task force I know several of
us wrote letters and tried to get other people to send letters and there wasn't a better candidate
to represent our city than you So super glad and I know it's going to add to your already busy
job jar but thank you for doing that Um also thank you for all the presentations you're doing
out in the community I've had the pleasure of attending many of them with you and several more
in the future and it's kind of been a road show but it's interesting to hear people's interest in
this to to listen to their questions It's going to be vital as we move forward to know what our what
our messaging will be Um I also was a proud member along with council member Holheiser as mentioned
as the selection committee So thank you to CDM for um being willing to do this adventure with us I
think it's going to be fantastic for the future of water Um I also along with council member
Holheisel sit on the local task force for water reuse and and am excited to see how we can move
forward Um I talk about drought every day and now I'm talking about water reuse recycle water every
day in this city multiple times a day and I think all of us doing that is how the message is going
to get out in people to understand how critical this is Um Gary knows this I've challenged us as a
city of Wan told um South Central delegation folks in Topeka that I want us to be the first city in
the state of Kansas to get direct portable reuse and I think we can do it and I think this is a
great first step Um just one other comment this is not just critical for households You know we
turn on our faucet in the morning we hope there's water we brush our teeth we go about our day and
we don't think twice about it But as business and industries are thinking of potentially locating
to Witchah Kansas they're going to look at our utilities and they're going to look at our
infrastructure And if they see that we're in drought and we're not aggressively addressing
this for the future not only could this you know potentially harm us as humans having our most
basic right but it could harm our basic economic development opportunities So this is critical
for the growth and continuation of the city of Witchah So just many many kudos to you Gary to you
Don and to all your team and I'm looking forward to seeing what's going to happen in the next few
years Thank you Uh thank you council member And I might provide a quick comment on that last part
because I'm glad that you mentioned that and I wanted to mention that too in the discussions I
have with community Needless to say people want to be able to water their grass more than once a week
But I try to remind them where we're headed and if that's the worst thing we have to deal with right
now we're in a pretty good place But but looking to the future uh it it is important for the growth
of our community and not just to be able to water our yards I'm actually making a presentation next
week uh to the Greater Witchaw Partnership and Downtown Witchaw Board uh so they have a better
understanding of where we're headed and so that they can help carry this same message when looking
at businesses that are wanting to come to Witchah that we've recruited for the local task force
the chamber and then also potentially and I know it was in your slide but the restaurant
and hospitality industry So I really just think we're doing a great job of diversifying our local
task force so that we can get as many allies um and and people interested in this topic Many many
voices will be needed as we move forward Thank you Council Member Ho Heisel Thank you Mayor Uh thank
you Gary It's been a pleasure to serve on this I think this is very instrumental towards setting
our city up for the future Um just I I think I already know this answer but just for the public's
information uh you said $25 million or $25 million gallons come out a day from uh the the treatment
plant Um what is our water use average uh per day for the city thank you for that question
I actually had that as a note and I skipped over that because I usually mention that during
these presentations So in non- drought conditions uh when we're not under restrictions our average
demand is 50 million gallons a day over the course of a year And so if you can imagine you know we
don't necessarily get one for one here but if we can capture theoretically 25 million gallons a
day and create a new water supply what that does for us long term uh to be able to provide half
of our demand I think it's quite possible that we we wouldn't have to talk about the impacts of
drought in the future you know half half It could be half Yes sir All right Thank you Gary Council
member Johnson Thanks Mayor Um Gary I was hoping you would discuss all the steps on filtration and
all the different types I didn't want to bore you with that Uh I just wanted to say uh I appreciate
the work on this and I'm definitely supportive I know it was a brief conversation when we were
working on building a new water treatment plant to have this opportunity but we need to really be
looking at always thinking about being in drought and reusing water supplying half of what we use
from reuse I think is a good thing and looking forward to seeing what the study will bring about
Council member Ballard thank you Mayor Thank you Gary for all of your work on the water treatment
plant in itself and trying to get creative with how to recycle and reuse water For the record I am
extremely um supportive of this but there was some chatter about it last night at the DAB at my dab
Um of course there was concern about $1.2 million um you know we we talked a little bit about that
and the importance basically of needing some experts to help guide us in the right direction
but just to flip the other side of the coin what happens if we wouldn't do this and I am supportive
but just for conversation I mean I think the the answer is fairly obvious but um I would just lean
into you to see if you had anything else to add So if this uh if we if we are not to do uh if we
don't move forward with this and I'll just caution again I just said it before and I'll say it again
we don't know ultimately what the cost is going to look like and how this might get funded So that's
going to be a challenge in and of itself Uh being able to figure out the needed technology that's
probably the easy part because of the experts that we've got I'm looking forward to the community
engagement I think we can really uh put a good plan together But but if for whatever reason this
doesn't happen we're going to continue to dig in with the things that we're doing Now I mentioned
that we're going to get to a point where we're going to be a little bit limited on future return
on investment for the work that we're doing in the equipeds aquafer Uh we are actually working with
the state of Kansas and GMD2 on the opportunity uh to do some advanced treatment of uh further
up in the equest beds where there's some chloride contamination and whether the city could provide
treatment for that which we could uh and that could create uh an additional potential water
source for us It's not a lot Uh but but I'll tell you what we're still doing in the meantime
and I should have mentioned earlier Uh I give you an example We've been in close contact with EverG
EverG has a shuttered uh uh power plant northwest of Witchah that they have fairly significant
water rights and they haven't decided what they're going to do with those water rights in the future
We've been in conversation with EverG We've been in conversation with the state of Kansas and GMD2
what that opportunity looks like in the future for utilization of those water rights I think there's
a possibility depending on where they go with that uh that those water rights could be available
uh maybe even on a kind of a shared basis with other people in GMD2 So we're looking at options
like that Uh we've had conversations with others anytime that uh other water rights might be
available We're not going to stop looking uh for options I mentioned before um the way
that water rights are appropriated across the state I get calls from a lot of people saying
"Hey I see a lot of these ponds They've got water in them Why don't you go in after those?"
Couple parts of that is we don't necessarily have the rights to that water And more times than not
it's just not as much water as it seems that it is Um I think we've uh once our new water treatment
plant uh is up and operating and putting water in the system you've heard me talk before too about
the flexibility that that brings that we can treat more groundwater than we can now So that adds to
our long-term resiliency and sustainability also So uh we'll keep the same effort going forward in
parallel even with this study uh keep our eyes and ears open and make sure that we're not missing any
opportunities along the way Just the last comment that I would make is it was asked if we would be
um exploring these opportunities if we were not in the middle of a drought Um so I mean that's a
great question Uh and I don't know if I can tell you the honest truth if I would know that Uh it
makes sense the longer that this drought has gone on because I will be the first to tell you when we
went into stage one of our drought response plan in January of 2023 I would have never bet that
we'd still be in this situation that we're in now Uh we are in the middle of historic drought
something that we haven't seen in a long long time Uh even if that is the reason I'm okay with
that I think it makes sense Uh and we need to be responsible We need to be looking ahead Uh I think
it's uh I've always said my belief is back in 2013 that drought was taken care of by two massive
rain events 10 days apart and I would bet you two weeks later that most of our community forgot
that we were even in a drought including me Um and so the reason why I say that is this is fresh on
everybody's mind It makes sense that we need to do everything we can to try to avoid this in the
future because right now there is no end in sight to where we're at with this current drought Well
I appreciate all of your work on it I mean I think um one of the positives out of CO is it forced
us to modernize a lot of different things that we were doing just around the community And
um if this is what we one of the things that we get out of the drought is to modernize
and find new ways to recycle and reuse then um I'm all for it So thank you I agree Thank you
Vice Mayor Johnston Thank you Mayor Um I guess they say necessity is the engine of innovation So
that's three So I I do want to compliment you and your your team Uh not only for the water team
but the roads team You really look for ways to be inventive creative and look at new things and
try new things And I do really appreciate that I do have a question about the picture on screen
though It seems that maybe is our old treatment plan When will we change that picture to our new
one oh sorry I don't have an answer for you on that just yet but that's a good point We'll get
that updated as soon as we can Was April 1st and must be having trouble getting there Uh I don't
have any information for you at this point We're working through a couple things I'll have an
update soon Council member Glascock Thank you Gary I know that you can't answer this question
I'm about to ask but I know that this question I'm going to be asked from the public is if
we move forward with portable reuse will they see an increase in their water cost a decrease
what's an answer I could give them now just by exploring this option uh I can tell you that no
one will probably see a decrease H but I don't know the answer to that yet That's a part of what
we're going to be evaluating and and we'll have a better idea in the coming 12 months and even by
the end of this year Our goal I I said this and I just want to say it again first and foremost is
to leverage as much outside funding as we can I've started this conversation with Jim Davenport our
federal lobbyist and I have a call with him soon as I want him to understand where we're going
with this Um I've talked to um Council Member Tuttle talked about uh visiting the South Central
Kansas delegation We're going to make sure all of uh our legislators are aware of of our efforts
and where we're going So that's our first priority Uh what we've seen from other communities uh that
are going through this now they have been able to uh receive funding I think uh that's really going
to dictate how much we can do and when and where and that's a decision we would bring back to the
council uh probably multiple times to talk about options and it very well could be looking at
a future rate impact just as we did with the water treatment plant and the BNR improvements and
we'll have to really evaluate what that return on investment is right now I don't know uh it very
well could be a part of the rates discussion I expect that it would be at some point in time This
project's going to probably take a while If we really get to the point of direct portable reuse
uh from what we've seen at other states have done we're probably talking about a five-year period
likely to get to that point I think some of the things for industrial reuse uh the non-potable
reuse could happen sooner if we can work out uh logistics and funding with how those happen
So I know I didn't clearly answer that for you is because we don't know just yet Well I think
it's our duty uh to protect the planet It's our duty to look at these options regardless
of whether or not we are in a drought or not I think reuse of water should be a priority
of our community rest of the state So thanks for a question regarding the phase water supply
plan Um have we thought about looking at state dollars instead of these dollars from our CIP we
have So uh to to be able to kick this off and get this moving we wanted to be able we've got this
funding in place now So one of the first things we'll do uh Sarah talked about it they've got some
expertise on their team that focuses on funding Uh one of the things I want to do early on and
have tasked CDM Smith with doing that is to try to find uh state or federal dollars even for
this study I mentioned when we spoke to Bureau of Reclamation last fall uh about this effort
They were the ones that volunteered even at that time to say "Hey we've got funding for your
planning efforts." So we're going to be in touch with we're going to be in touch with them very
soon to hopefully we can find a way to replace even these funding this funding that we're using
now That would be great Uh I do believe that we provide 20% of water in the state of Kansas 17
Well we provide water to 17% of all canons So I would see this as a really significant uh state
issue as well So I know that Sarah mentioned that I believe who was it on slide number 117 You have
a specific individual who helps with funding Stacy right there Um I wanted to know are we late in
the game when it comes to these funds because um I think there was another slide that showed um
areas in the United States that have had uh these types of programs So are we late you're not late
Um a lot of the areas you're looking at I mean California started working on um reuse projects
in the 90s right so that they've got 30 years of um growth on us Um the first I guess the first
true DPR plant is in construction in Texas right now for the state of Texas So all those dots kind
of follow the coast mainly because lack of water high population right so we're we're actually
I would say out in front in terms of looking at this Um I would also mention that it's not even
just state dollars a lot of your um your industry um a lot of data centers things like that there
are often funding opportunities like Spirit where um they need it for their own internal goals that
they might be able to um help cash flow or balance on some of those non-portable options That's all
part of this comprehensive study I know we're kind of focusing in DPR but we really are looking at
everything as um over the course of the next eight months So not late yet The other thing we have to
know is how much it costs and we don't know that yet That's part of what we have to get to is what
does the technologies look like what could the cost be and construction costs right now are scary
right all the tariffs and everything So we've got to really pin that down in order to start talking
about return on investment And we would be the first in the state to do this type of study
and anything related to direct quotable reuse Is that correct um the city of Derby's turned in
a not Derby um Dodge City has a Bureau of Wreck funding approved for it's not DPR though but it is
a reuse project So there is one ahead of you but they're not looking at it the way you are And then
lastly um when I was at National League of Cities uh we were in Tampa and they talked about
um their new water treatment plant and just obviously reuse as well but they talked about PAS
So I'm curious if this will also be part of the conversation because um there will be multiple
treatments if we get to direct portable reuse Um are there even better methods to get even better
quality water with no PAS that's an incredibly timely question Um PAS is a concern throughout the
industry both on the portable and wastewater side Now the nice thing about the uh the traditional
DPR process is it includes um granular activated carbon GAC It looks like black heavy sand that
removes PAS So the typical traditional DPR process is already set up to remove it So if you have it
in your system it's coming out before it would um before the community would see it So that one we
got covered Thank you very much No problem I see no further questions Um I do have one more Gary
just quick comment You mentioned stage one of this drought actually occurred starting January 2023
Um and stage two was activated August of 2024 Even if we had normal rains back to normal rains when
would we be able to get back to normal because I I do believe a lot of individuals in our community
believe if we just get one major uh rainfall um over Cheni it will solve it Well I might answer
that by talking about stage three first if you don't mind I know you didn't ask that but I
want to mention it real quick Right now we're projecting that we will stay out of stage three
until early next year But I will tell you and the reason why I mentioned this because you talked
about rainfall that still uh contemplates average rainfall if we don't get average rainfall this
year stage three could show up yet this fall Um so I want to make that clear But but to your point um
the way this plan is set up as you all are aware uh each stage is triggered by the 12-month running
average of the conservation pool the level if you will the amount of water in Cheni Reservoir It
makes sense You deal with seasonal variations We don't want to hop in and out um the way it was set
up it initially contemplates that you come out of it the same way Um and so uh but we have some
flexibility within that to to kind of see how it happens when it happens So it wouldn't have to
take that long could take some time because if you do get a big rain uh that fills up a good portion
of the reservoir we've got to be really careful uh because this time of year as the temperatures
start to crank up evaporation is considerable uh I don't remember the number but uh if you
all recall last July as we were contemplating stage two during the month of July there was
a considerable drop uh probably a foot or more just in one month for Cheni from evaporation only
so there's a lot of variables we'd have to weigh uh but I would tell you that if we get uh then
it'd have to be some major rain events because Cheni Reservoir was not as low in 2013 as it is
now Uh but even if it came back up we'd have to have some real careful consideration of what that
means Needless to say we don't want to pull the drought restrictions Uh go on a twomon hot dry
streak lose a bunch of water and then hop right back into it You Gary I see no further questions
from the council We'll open it up for public comment I see no public comment We'll bring
it back to the bench Uh given that again Gary um and the staff at CDM Smith will be looking
at other possible state funding to help with uh even this very study Um I am comfortable
with moving this item So I move to approve the pro project budget contract adopt the
resolution and authorize the necessary signatures Second motion and a second Any further
discussion i see none Mr Clerk please open the role I motion passes 70 Mr Clerk
please call the next item Witchah Central County Metropolitan Area
Planning Department City of Witchah application fees Good afternoon Scott Wadel from the
planning department So for this one a little bit of background information The planning
department was created as you know through a partnership between the city and the county
And per the interlocal agreement the planning department is funded 50/50 by the city and county
with contributions being offset by application fees So that's how the planning department is
funded Here's a graph that shows percentages As you can see the over uh overall the largest
percentage is from the city and the county support According to planning department records
the last fee increase occurred in 2018 A review of records indicate that the fee in increases
occurred approximately every two years prior to that So in terms of analysis between 2018
and 2023 inflation increased by nearly 20% And so what we did is we looked at planning
department cost We looked at the cost for processing applications This includes
mostly current plans division and part of our administration division It does not
include the advanced plans division or zoning enforcement division And what we found is that uh
approximately 72 to 76% of the planning services budget is spent on processing costs In terms of
our cost recovery the MAT MAPD budgeted recovery rate ranged generally from 21 to 23% The MA MAPD
uh cost recovery has been nearly flat from 2019 to 2023 It appears that the cost recovery has gone up
during this time period even though the department costs have gone up and the application fees have
not increased and I believe that's largely because case activity increased over that period Here's
a graph showing the amount of cases and where it picked up It appears that much of the growth
was in case types where fees are collected So the recommended action is to increase the MAPD
city application fees by 10% This would result in a cost recovery rate of 27% The taxpayer general
funds from the city and the county both combined would subsidize 73% of the case processing costs
Without the fee increase the case processing cost recovery rate is 25% And it is important to note
that the city planning applications and process to review them including collecting community
input are considered to have a greater overall community benefit than individual benefit and
are usually subsidized to some degree by local governments Here's a sample of the
fees uh for a variety of different case types got a number of zoning cases
and and one platting style There are a number of different fees So this is just a
small example So the fees would generally increase by 10% and they're rounded up to
the nearest $5 increment just for ease of processing So here's the example of
what would happen with the zoning fee uh application So you can see uh MF18 all the
way up to neighborhood retail It's currently $900 it would increase to $990
And then there's a per acre fee that's charged as well So in that
instance it would go from $30 to $35 Here's the subdivision or platting
uh fee example And in this case it'd be for one step plat So it goes from $900 to
$990 And the per acre fee would remain at uh $20 because of uh how we round it So in
terms of the process so this is just an overview of the process Uh because there are two
entities that we've been corresponding with both the city and the county Um we've also taken
this out to WAB and did a presentation at a WABA developers meeting And so we're here
today for the city council consideration Now an additional note about this is that at a
city council workshop members of the city council indicated that they would like to see stakeholder
engagement in the future and potentially establish a goal level of cost recovery which would be used
to help determine when fee changes are needed I want to acknowledge that express preference
and indicate that we plan to work towards accomplishing that So the recommended action
is for the city council to authorize the MAPD fee increase and adopt the resolution And again
that is for a 10% fee increase And a note on this uh is that the effective date would be July 1st
That would allow time to notify people about this and also for the county to consider similar uh
fee increases And also a note on that because the county fees require county commission action
Uh this would provide time for them to consider it And so with that I'll stand for any questions
Thank you Scott Council member Hoheisle Thank you Mayor Uh thanks Scott Just quick question
So if county does not up their fees does that mean that any applications in the county
will stay the same but then the ones here in the city will go up correct Yes sir Okay Thank
you Council Member Tuttle Thank you Uh Council Member Hisel stole my notes I was going to ask
the same question Then just the other question you mentioned about getting the information out
so people know is do we have a are we working with communications or are you going to take
care of that internally how will we let people know about the this change after the BOCC vote
obviously Sure Sure Uh well the first thing we do is we hang up posters in our office just
because we know that there are rout routine clients that come through The other way that we
would do that is um updating our website to make sure that it's one of the first things that
you see So if you're seeking information on a zoning case you can find that as well as we have
an email distribution list to all the consultant firms and other members who have of the public who
have signed up for that So we'll use that as well We'll also work with communications if there's
any other avenues they suggest This may be I'm famous for offering my unsolicited advice So I'm
sorry but I wonder if even placing something like on the just a routine disclaimer on the agenda
for MAPC because so many people who are in this world read that agenda even if they don't have
an item on it So just FYI Sure Thank you Thank you for all you do Scott Appreciate you Scott I
have several questions Um back in November of 2024 um was the recommended increase 10% also or was it
a different percent for the city it is remained at the 10% At one time the county was discussing a 5%
And I see on the green sheet um this cost recovery in itself was due to request for information
Are you talking about the council itself um I'm sorry I which it says in 2024 in response
to requests for information Yes Um so as part of this discussion uh there have been a variety
of questions that have really helped us to learn uh more about the situation One of those co
questions was what's the cost recovery look like in terms of what expenditures we have we did
not have that information before Uh the second question that came up then was how do we compare
to other communities so we did that research as well in terms of fees And then a third question
that came up was how do we measure efficiency in the planning department and how does the planning
department compare with other uh departments and I appreciate that because I have been one of the
ones who has been advocating for making sure that we have cost recovery or at least understand what
cost recovery looks like so that people understand uh the subsidy that taxpayers are providing
while there's a public good being served Um so again I appreciate this information So I did
take a look at um the report in regards to the other departments you uh benchmarked against So
I wanted to know um in terms of fees So you gave an example of a $900 fee that with a 10% increase
would be about $9.90 Is this comparable to other cities our size uh north and south of us so what
we found is that um when it comes to the cities actually I've got some slides here just in case
Uh so what we found is that there was one of the cities that we surveyed uh seven cities had lower
fees one city had similar fees and two cities had higher fees So the two cities that had higher fees
were in Oklahoma Uh the one city that had similar fees was in Nebraska And then um the seven cities
were a variety of communities uh both in Kansas and some in neighboring states I saw that the cost
recovery on our green sheet talked about subsidy to 73% whereas your um slide said that the subsidy
would be 72% Have we I'm just curious why is have we thought about either a third a model that looks
like a third versus twothirds because right now this is a a heavy subsidy and I appreciate that
again it's because of the common good We do want to encourage development Um so can you kind of
explain why we're settling on this percentage at this point um it was because 10% is what uh
folks seem to be comfortable with or at least um interested in during our conversations
I believe that the next stage of this which is to have conversations with stakeholders will
help us to establish what that benchmark is that we want to aim for whether it's 25% 30% whatever
it may be Um and so once that's established then that will help guide when and if fee increases or
potentially not likely but potentially a decrease might also be warranted Mayor I will mention that
our early discussions did talk about getting to a a one-third split as you suggested and it seemed
to be a maybe a little too significant an increase for the industry to accept when we first started
talking about it and that's why we came with the 10% But my goal going into the discussions is to
try to ramp up to get to that that split because that from a policy standpoint I think that makes
sense and it would probably fit well with our cost recovery uh pyramid Thank you I have no further
questions I see that we don't have any from the council We will now open it up for public comment
Seeing none I'll bring it back to the bench I will go ahead and move um that the that we adopt the
ordinance and authorize the necessary signatures Second motion and a second Any further discussion
i see none Mr Clerk please open the role I motion passes 70 Mr Clerk
please call the next item request to set a public hearing for a
community improvement district for SOC corner Honorable mayor members of council Troy Anderson
assistant city manager So this is a request to uh establish a community improvement district Uh
so a little bit of background uh socioeconomic development group uh is the owner of a mixeduse
building and a couple of mixeduse buildings located at the southwest corner of Lincoln and
South Broadway Uh they would like to make some substantial investments in that corner including
things like retail office and some multif family space They have requested the use of uh community
improvement district CD to assist in reimbursing them for those costs um uh in investing in that
corner Uh the C petition is signed by 100% of the land owners The the project scope uh they're
anticipating an estimated investment of about $2.6 million um based on their proforma and
the sales tax revenue that they anticipate to collect over the next uh 22 years at the 2% uh
they believe that that it might generate about $450,000 So uh for the purposes of today's
conversation to establish a C the city council must first adopt a resolution which states that
the city council is considering the establishment and then setting a date for a public hearing on
the matter There's also some uh uh requirements for advertising and posting uh notice for
that public hearing And so at this point in time the public hearing is currently slated for
June 10th Uh as it relates to sort of financing the project again this is uh referred to as
a pay as you go The developer will pay all construction costs associated with the project
The city will not be issuing any debt for the project And so the proceeds will then be held by
the city and dispersed pursuant to a development agreement again up until that cost cap about
$450,000 Uh so either at such time when that cost cap is reached or the 22-year term has been
uh has expired whichever is easier whichever is earlier Uh the applicants been in contact with the
council district representative and are uh working on the 10% allocation to community benefit So law
department has reviewed and approved the petition and resolution as to form That being said it's
staff recommendation that city council accept the petition adopt the resolution setting a public
public hearing for June 10th uh and consider the establishment of a community community improvement
district and authorize the necessary signatures With that I'll stand for questions Thank you Troy
I do have one question So the green sheet said um a public hearing may be held for this project
the earliest would be January 7th 2025 Did you mean to say January 10th 2025 it it was a
typo It's June 10th So as you'll see in the recommendation later on um it it is clarified
June 10th 2025 It's a typo Yes Thank you very much And I believe council member Hohheisle
mentioned this at the agenda review Um but this would specifically help with the firefighter
memorial Yes that's the plans that have been identified by the associate group is to
put the 10% for uh public use into the firefighter memorial So that'd be a a nice
little chunk of change helping out there I see no questions so we'll open it up for
public comment I see no public comment We'll bring it back to the bench This is in council
member Hohheisel's district Thank you Mayor Um we got a lot of good things going on and setting
the stage for South Broadway to have a renaissance and this is one of those many pieces here So I'd
like to uh move that the city council accept the petition and adopt the resolution setting a public
hearing on June 10th 2025 for consideration of the establishment of a community improvement district
and authorizing necessary signatures Second motion and a second Any further discussion i
see none Mr Clerk please open the role I motion passes 70 Mr Clerk
please call the next item Con 202541 conditional use request in the
city for an accessory apartment on property zoned SF5 single family residential
generally lo generally located within one block west of Northwest Street and
1 half mile north of West 13th Street 1632 North Nevada Court Mayor if I may I
think you wanted to advance an item Yeah Uh do you mind if um I will wait for this item
and ask if we can vote to move an agenda item up Um I would like to move the Witchaw State
University campus of applied sciences and technology use and lease agreement at McConnell
sorry at Colonel James Jabara Airport Uh up to this position in the agenda Second motion and a
second Any further discussion i see none Mr Clerk please open the role I I I by vote voice vote
all members say I in favor I All those opposed same sign Motion passes 70 We will now move up
the WSU Tech agreement agenda item Mayor just a quick reminder you're operating as the airport
authority on this item not the council Thank you There still more Good afternoon Mayor Council
Jesse Romo director of airports Witaw Airport Authority Here to talk the new deal at Jabar but I
want to give you a quick recap on what got us here in the first place And so um couple years back
we were talking with WSU Tech We said we'd get uh creative and partner with them to find funding
solutions to get some infrastructure put in place should they ever have an opportunity to expand in
the future The Kansas Department of Commerce had a grant program a loft that we ended up applying
for and we got the grant So we went into a partnership agreement with WSU Tech and we've been
managing that infrastructure side of the project and it helped set them up to um develop additional
facilities to expand their related workforce development training program They continue to
uh wish to develop to the south of the current ENCAT campus any expansion of their campus
requires the additional airfield pavement and that's where we got the grant agreement And
just as a reminder of where the location is along um web road there you'll see the current
ENCAT campus and then just to the south I'm missing pictures
I'm missing lots of pictures This is not the correct PowerPoint So let me just talk on the fly so to speak
Okay So we have a an agreement Actually I have a paper cup Good old paper right when technology
fails you I apologize for that council But I want to make sure I get
the details of this agreement accurate Okay WSU Tech does wish to develop the
additional facilities to expand their aviation related workforce development training programs
which will include professional pilot emerging aviation and advanced air mobility An agreement
has been negotiated with WSU to lease 9.6 6 acres of land to allow the construction
of an 80,000 excuse me 85,000t hanger and additional educational facilities As a
governmental entity WZ Tech will have a facility ownership throughout the term of
the agreement It's subject to reversion to WA at the expiration or upon a change in
use The agreement term spans 31 years It aligns with the expiration of our current
agreement with the county for the ENCAT campus Due to WSU Tech status as a Kansas
public nonfor-profit educational institution the agreement negotiated includes a rate that
is 50% off the published land rental rate for Jabar Airport This agreement results in a new
annual revenue of $51,521 with 1% escalation every year It is recommended that the Witchaw
Airport Authority approved the agreement and authorized the necessary signatures My apologies
again for not having the pretty pictures to show uh the renderings that they have provided
with us It's a great looking facility If you ever drive along Web Road there is a lot
of the ramp that has already been constructed Uh we're over 90% complete on that project So
this is perfect timing for us to continue to roll right into their development agreement
With that I'll stand for questions Thank you Jesse Council member Tuttle Thank you Thank
you Jesse for being willing to be adaptive Appreciate it Um I um don't have a question
but due to a conflict of interest I will be abstaining from this vote today Thank you again
Jesse I have no questions Um I I will wait I uh don't see anyone on the council that has
questions So we'll now open it up for public comment Well good afternoon Mayor Woo
council members and members of the staff Uh I'm Sher Utach president of WSU
Tech and just want to take a moment uh to thank you for the opportunity to be here
today on behalf of WSU Tech to express our strong support for the land lease agreement before you
This partnership reflects our shared commitment to innovation to workforce development
and the continued growth of our community We are especially grateful to Jesse Romo and the
airport witchaw airport authority staff for their collaboration not only through this project for
but for the last 15 years and as we present this agreement today Their responsiveness their
professionalism and their shared vision have been instrumental as we plan for the next phase of
the National Center for Aviation Training I have been honored to be joined this morning by some of
my board members who have a couple of them have left but Dr Alicia Thompson Doug Stark and Greg
Straoud also WSU General Counsel Stacia Bowden and members of the WSU Tech leadership team each
representing a critical part of the collaboration and support behind this effort and who believe
just as I do with this shared vision of what we think we can continue to build in Witchah for
workforce development Together we see this lease as an important next step towards the future It is
a future filled with opportunity for our students for our business and industry and for the Witchah
region So I want to thank you for your leadership for your partnership and for your consideration
of this lease Thank you Dr Utach I see no further comments I'll bring it back to the bench And
before I make the motion I will disclose that I'm a board member of the WSU Tech um board but I have
no financial gain um as a board member or through WSU Tech However I am the mayor of the city of
Witchah and a very proud one Um as I go around the nation talking about the air capital of the world
I always talk about our educational institutions that help with maintaining the air capital of the
world moniker Um for me air stands for something It stands for aviation innovation and research And
this proposal right now touches all three of those And um as one of the co-chairs of the National
League of Cities Advanced Air Mobility Task Force this is again um how we're going to maintain our
air capital um signature and we want to maintain that because I can tell you that there are other
communities that are competing for that spot And so I am very grateful that we have partners in
our community in private industry in education and here in the public sector even with Sedick County
in supporting this ecosystem that is truly special and unique because we have a really talented um
manufacturing skilled workforce and it is thanks to these partnerships So I am u so excited to
move this item And without further ado I move uh that the Witchaw Airport Authority approved the
agreement and authorized the necessary signatures Second Motion and a second Any further discussion
i see none Mr Clerk please open the role I motion passes 6 with one abstension We will
uh take a break right now Um so we will take a 15minute break and return here at 12:50 How about
that 12:50 we'll return for the council meeting Con 2025 conditional use request in the city
for an accessory apartment on property zoned SF5 single family residential generally located within
one block west of Northwest Street and 1 half mile North of West 13th Street 1632 North Nevada
Court Good afternoon Scott Wadel from the Planning Department So as you heard the
applicant's requesting a conditional use to allow for an accessory apartment This case
is being heard because the district advisory board and the planning commission they both
recommended approval but they have slightly different conditions Subject site as you
heard is at 1632 North Nevada Court So it's generally located south and west of
the intersection of 17th and West Street The site consists of one ownership parcel It's
developed with a single family house related outbuildings and it's zoned SF5 The applicant has
indicated they'd like to construct the accessory apartment on the property The property
is surrounded by other properties that are zoned SF5 And to the north east and west
they're developed with single family residences and to the south is a school The staff report
contains information about the supplementary use conditions that apply to accessory apartments
In terms of review on April 10th the planning commission held a public hearing for this item
and recommended approval with conditions which are identified in the staff report And that vote was
13 to zero One member of the public spoke on this item at that meeting and wanted additional
information on the proposed department to determine whether or not he supported the request
On April 14th the district advisory board reviewed the request and recommended approval the same
as the MAPC but with an additional condition and that additional condition is that the accessory
apartment must have a gabled roof No member of the public spoke on this item at that meeting No
protests were received against the case Therefore the conditional use can be approved by a simple
majority vote 47 In terms of recommended actions recommended city council adopt the findings of
the planning commission approve the requested conditional use with MAPC conditions authorize
the necessary signatures and instruct the clerk to publish a resolution after approval And again
four out of seven votes Alternatives include overriding the MAPC and adopting alternative
findings and denying the conditional use that requires five of seven votes or returning
it to the MAPC for additional consideration Again just requires a simple majority And just
note on process that public comment occurs at typically occurs at the planning commission So
here's the images and graphics Here's the zoning map Here's the map from the comprehensive plan
showing residentials recommended there Here's a site plan that uh submitted by the applicant
as part of the application and shows where the accessory building would be constructed
Here's the protest map and notification map showing that no protests were submitted Here
are photos of the site and the surrounding area And with that I'll stand for any
questions Thank you Scott Any questions for staff i see none Um this resides in council
member Ballard's district Thank you mayor I move to override the MAPC approve the conditional
use with the MAPC recommended condition but with one additional change as re recommended by
the DAB which I will read in just a moment Place the resolution on first reading authorize
necessary signatures and instruct the city clerk to publish the resolution after approval of
the second reading The change recommended by the DAB is that the accessory apartment must
have a gabled roof In support of this motion I offer the following findings The additional
conditions will help reduce potential negative impacts to nearby properties by making the
design more reflective of the residential buildings in the area Second Motion and
a second Any further discussion i see none I Okay Uh all those in favor say I I
All those opposed same sign Motion passes 70 Mr Clerk please call the next item Zone 20 202451 zone change request in the
city from LI Limited Industrial District to MF18 Multif Family Residential District to
create a residential development generally located on the east side of North Greenwich Road
and within one quarter mile north of East 37th Street North Good afternoon Scott Wadel again So
for this item I just have some quick comments on it The item was deferred from the February 11th
city council meeting The applicant has withdrawn the application So there's no need for any
action by the city council The recommended action is just simply to acknowledge
that the application has been withdrawn That's Thank you Scott This uh was
in Council Member Tuttles's district So we're going to post we're going to just pull
it Is that correct exactly That's correct There's there's no need for any formal action And it's
just in case there was anyone who was paying attention to the case and saw that it got deferred
and had interest in it that this would just be a time to say it has been withdrawn by the applicant
because you and I chatted and we don't actually have a formal vote Correct Correct Okay Thank you
Just want to make sure nothing changed Thank you very much Um Mr Clerk can you please call the
next item vacation 20259 requests in the city to vacate a portion of a platted setback and a
portion of a platted utility easement generally located within 1 half mile south of East Douglas
Avenue and one quarter mile west of South Oliver Avenue 301 South Terrace Drive Scott Wel again
from the planning department So this one is a little bit different than some of the cases
that you've seen before So this is a vacation case and in this case as you heard the applicant
is requesting to vacate the east 2 feet of a 5-ft utility easement along the west side So you can
see this blue line along the west side They're also requesting to vacate part of this curve They
want the uh southwesterly most 5 feet of that 35- foot building setback to be vacated This item
is being heard today simply because the MAPC is recommending approval of the setback vacation So
part of that curve one and they are recommending denial of the utility easement vacation off to the
west and so that denial is what triggers it to be non-consent In terms of the request the applicant
has indicated they're requesting the vacations in order to rebuild a detached garage that was in the
same general footprint as uh that that used to be on the site in this generally the same vicinity is
where they're proposing this new one The site is located at 301 South Terrace Drive in the College
Hill neighborhood It's made up of one parcel just over a quarter of an acre in size zoned SF5
and currently developed with single family house A staff report provides information about uh
input from various utility and service providers And in terms of review on April 10th the planning
commission voted 13 to to zero to deny the utility easement and to approve the setback vacation with
the conditions that are listed in the staff report Uh I'll just mention that the denial was
recommended because there are utilities in that easement and so utility providers came
and said it would be a bad idea to vacate that The applicant's agent indicated that they are
agreeable with the MAPC recommendation No public comments were received and no valid objections
have been filed with the city clerk So in terms of council action it's recommended city council
follow the recommendation of the metropolitan area planning commission and improve the vacation
order to reduce the platted setback deny the requested vacation of the utility easement and
authorize the necessary signatures That requires just a simple majority of four of seven votes Uh
there are other alternatives You can approve both vacation requests uh and that would require again
just a simple majority of four of seven votes or you can deny all of them which would require
again just simple majority of four of seven votes So or as always you can return the case to
the MAPC for additional consideration Uh let me take you through some of the graphics and images
So here's the graphic showing the um vacation areas Um there we go This is an illustration
of those that was submitted by the applicant Ah that's all we have So with that I'll
stand for any questions Questions for staff i see none This resides in council
member Johnson's district Thank you mayor I move that the city council follow the
recommendation of the Metropolitan Area Planning Commission to approve the vacation
order to reduce the platted setback and deny the requested vacation of the utility easement
and authorize the necessary signatures Second Motion in the second Any further discussion
i see none Mr Clerk can you open the role motion passes 70 Mr Clerk please
call the next item Zone 2025 zone change request in the city from TF3 to
family residential to NR neighborhood retail to permit retail uses associated with the
church generally located on the northeast corner of West 11th Street North and North Waco
Avenue 1200 North Waco Avenue Scott Wadel again from the planning department So for this one the
applicant is requesting as you heard approval of a zone change from TF3 to in our neighborhood
retail This item is being heard today because the DAB and the planning commission recommendations
are different and also because it was deferred from a prior city council meeting In terms
of the request the applicant has indicated they're requesting the zone change in order to
continue operating a bin store at the location The applicant has been operating the store at
the site in violation of the unified zoning code In terms of the property the subject site's
located at the northeast corner of 11th and Waco As you can see here on the uh graphic the
subject site is just under a half an acre in size consists of two ownership parcels both under the
same ownership It's developed with a church and uh is in use as a bin store for part of the time
In terms of context property to the north is zoned B multifamily We'll go to that Here's the zoning
map and developed with a single family dwelling Property to the south oh across 11th Street is
zone TF3 and developed with a duplex Properties to the east across the alley are zone TF3 and
developed with a variety of single family multif family and duplex dwellings And properties to
the west across Waco are zone B and TF3 and develop with single family dwellings In terms of
the staff report st it provides information about development standards signage parking screening
and landscaping In terms of review on March 27th the planning commission held a public hearing
on this item and recommended approval of the zone change and that vote was 10 to zero No
members of the public spoke on this item at that hearing On April 14th the district advisory
board reviewed the request and recommended denial of the zone change request and that vote was 4
to three Leading up to their vote DAB members indicated that the requested resoning is not in
conformance with the Midtown neighborhood plan that the business leaves significant amounts of
trash and that semi-truckss traffic related to the business blocks 11th Street and that there's been
public comments in opposition to the reasonzoning No protests were received against the case
Therefore the zone change can be approved by a simple majority or four of seven votes In terms
of the recommendation the recommendation coming to you from the planning commission is that the
city council adopt the findings of the planning commission adopt approve the requested zone
change authorize the necessary signatures and instruct the city clerk to publish the ordinance
after approval That requires again just four out of seven Alternatives include the following You
can override the MAPC adopt alternative findings and deny the zone change That would require five
of seven You can return the case to the MAPC for additional consideration Would require four of
seven votes And again just a note about process that public comment takes place during the public
hearing at the planning commission So with that here's a review of some of the graphics So here's
the aerial Here's the zoning map that we talked about Here's a map from the comprehensive plan
showing uh commercials recommended in the area Again this is the comprehensive plan This is the
Midtown plan which recommends I believe it was uh is a place of worship uh social a religious
congregational that's what it's recommended Uh here's the protest map and it shows 0%
because there were no protests against property against the application Here's the
site You can see some of the evidence of the bin store property to the south across the street
to the west And with that I'll stand for any questions Questions for staff beginning with
council member Glosscock Thank you Mayor Scott Is this still acting i know they're doing ben storage
there which is in violation of their current zoning Correct Is this still also an active place
of worship yes My understanding is that they do the store part of the time and then they uh will
have church there and services there as well So I have another question I I think it would be in
relation to the zoning case too Jennifer can let me know if it's not to the property tax status
of the property as well Um is that wouldn't be obviously through zoning but given that the church
is also using it for business operations Have they excluded that from their property tax or are
they still property tax exempt for the entire property i don't have an exact answer for you but
I do believe that that's an interesting question that the appraiser would be very interested
to determine what the answer is on that one Yeah Can you remind us the use again
what's the business what particular so um my understanding is that it's a
Ben store where uh kind of like wholesale uh goods come in and it could be a
whole variety of different things but in kind of larger quantities or maybe not in the
packaging that you would expect at a at a regular uh retail store And uh that those are
the types of items that are sold there I see no further questions This resides in
Council Member Ballard's district Thank you mayor I move to override the MAPC deny the zone
change and as recommended by the DAB In support of this motion I offer the following findings The
Bento business has been operating in violation of the zoning code During its operations area
stakeholders have reported traffic issues with semis blocking 11th Street This negatively
impacts the public transportation network In addition stakeholders have reported issues with
visual clutter in the yard and on the property This clutter detrimentally affects
nearby properties Second motion and a second Any further discussion i see
none Mr Clerk please open the role Motion passes 70 Mr Clerk
please call the next item Council member agenda approve that pursuant to
section 2.04.090 090 Mayor Woo's travel expenses as estimated on the travel authorization
and expense form to attend League of Kansas Municipalities Governing Board Meeting and
City Forum in Garden City June 6th through 7th 2025 for the purpose of representing
the city of Witchah by meeting with state officials consistent with AR3.1 be approved
Upon return from travel actual expenses shall be reported to the controllers's office Thank
you clerk Uh this is again I am on the board of the League of Kansas Municipalities This
is our regular meeting and this is again um out in Barden City and yes there will
be taxpayer dollars used in this travel Like a motion to approve the travel Second motion and a second Any further discussion i
see none Mr Clerk please open the role Motion passes 70 Mr Clerk please call the next
item Approve that pursuant to section 2.4.090 090 Mayor Woos travel expenses as estimated
on the travel authorization and expense form to attend the 55th International Air Show in
Paris France June 10th through 12th 2025 for the purpose of representing the city of Witchah
for economic development purposes consistent with AR3.1 be approved Upon return from travel actual
expenses shall be reported to the controllers's office Again uh this travel will be paid for by
taxpayers Uh last year when we went to the London International Air Show two businesses were asked
to um open shop here in Witchah One has already done so The other is still in process And so
again this is part of economic development for the city of Witchah I'd like to uh as we approve
the travel for Mayor Woo to go to Paris Air Show Second motion and a second Any further discussion
i see none Mr Clerk please open the role Motion passes 70 Mr Clerk
please call the next item Approve that pursuant pursuant to section
2.04.090 090 Council members Johnson and Ballard's travel expenses as estimated on the
travel authorization and expense form to attend National League of Cities City Summit in Salt
Lake City Utah November 19th through 23rd 2025 for the purpose of representing the city of
Witchah consistent with AR3.1 be approved Upon return from travel actual expenses shall
be reported to the controllers's office I will move to approve this travel Second Motion in a second Any further discussion
i see none Mr Clerk please open the role Motion passes 70 Mr Clerk
please call the next item Approve that pursuant to section 2.04.090 090
Council Member Johnson's travel expenses as estimated on the travel authorization and
expense form to attend local progress 2025 national convening in Chicago Illinois July 9
through13 2025 for the purpose of representing the city of Witchah consistent with AR3.1 be
approved Upon return from travel actual expenses shall be reported to the controllers's office I
have one question simply because I have not seen local progress before Council member Johnson
can you tell me what local progress is local progress is uh much like yo another organization
of elected officials A lot of them are younger um this conference and the national
convening I've talked a lot with some of my colleagues about housing and
solutions to housing Um so that's why I'm going to this one and why I did
not go to YO which was two weeks ago I move to approve this travel Second motion
and a second Any further discussion i see none Mr Clerk please open the role Motion
passes 70 Mr Clerk please call the next item Approve that pursuant to section 2.04.090
090 Council Member Johnson's travel expenses as estimated on the travel authorization and
expense form to attend National Black Caucus of Local Elected Officials Summer Conference
in Houston Texas July 29 through August 3rd 2025 for the purpose of representing the city of
Witchah consistent with AR3.1 be approved Upon return from travel actual expenses shall
be reported to the controllers's office I will move to approve this travel Second Motion in a second Any further discussion i
see none Mr Clerk please open the role Motion passes 70 Mr Clerk
please call the next item Approve that pursuant to section 2.04.090 090
Council Member Hohheisle's travel expenses as estimated on the travel authorization and
expense form to attend National League of Cities City Summit in Salt Lake City Utah November
19th through 22nd 2025 for the purpose of representing the city of Witchah consistent with
AR3.1 be approved Upon return from travel actual expenses shall be reported to the controllers's
office I move to approve this travel second Motion and a second Any further discussion
i see none Mr Clerk please open the role Motion passes 70 Uh before we move on I just want
to make uh a quick addition I would like to see um council member travel be put on the website
under witchaw.govcity councsil uh for transparency purposes I'd like to see it um shown uh what
that travel is just like we have it here um on the agenda showing whether it was taxpayer
funded or not taxpayer funded Um I know that I just had two travels over the last seven days and
they were not taxpayer funded and so um I have had questions from community so I want to make sure
that it is open and transparent Thank you We will now move to council member appointments Council
member Hohheisle Thank you Mary or Mayor Um I would like to appoint Dan Baitman to the district
advisory board and Jack Silver to the diversity inclusion and civil rights advisory board That
means I will have one opening affordable housing review board So anybody listening who'd like to
serve on that please apply I'd like to satisfy my OCD here and get them all filled Thank you
Council Member Any other appointments council member Ballard Thank you I would like to appoint
David Gao to the fire and police retirement board I see no further appointments I
move to approve the appointments by council member to Heisel and Ballard Second We have an issue with an individual Okay
Uh all individuals on boards must live in the city of Witchah Correct Not necessarily
There are some exceptions for technical needs Um I don't they on certain boards I don't think
they all have to live I I'll check on that but um this board was which which
appointment it was the fire and police rec uh retirement I think that
would probably require city residency Do you want me to wait till next week or
Okay Okay Thank you I move to approve the appointments by council member Hoheisel and
Ballard Second Motion and a second Any further discussion i see none Mr Clerk please open the
role Motion passes 70 Council member comments go down the line Uh Council Member Hoheisel Thank you Mayor Um just two things real quick
One the mayor's youth council unity and the community event has been moved to this upcoming
Saturday at East High I believe from 2:30 to 6:00 Um please come out especially if um you're a
younger crowd younger than me Anyways we'll have violence interruptors out there We will have
members of the juvenile intervention unit Um a few other resources too mothers who are focusing
on keeping fit and all out of our school So um it'll be a good impactful event and I
just encourage all youth to come out Um I'd also like to recognize a a big loss in our
community Um Sunday we did lose Jose Srano who um was very impactful and forwardinking as far
as reaching out to the youth and many in our community who are at risk He had a unity in
the community events Um he had a heart as big as all outdoors and he really cared about the
kids and the community and second chances for other people as well So that is a big loss we are
thinking of him and his family and keeping them in our thoughts and prayers and also realizing
we lost another mentor um Dr Polite not too long ago Um as people fall off it falls to us and other
members of the community to step up and take those roles So uh just a message to the community and
a message to us up here It's it's always time for us to pop up there and take the lead on a lot of
those these issues as well So thinking of you Jose Vice Mayor Johnston I'd like to invite everyone
out to the Country Acres dog park opening tomorrow at 11:30 Country Acres It's just north west of
Central and Ridge Unique dog park because all the big trees are still there and it has a pretty
goodiz hill Everyone come out I'm sure it'll be a hit Thank you both Council member Ballard Thank
you Yesterday finally we got to open reopen the K9 Rooster Dog Park um over off 21st Street just
west of the Bronms Very exciting The dogs looked very happy Um and it was a great turnout So
super happy that we finally got to do that And then not long after that we did the overnaming
of the 18th Street Bridge over next to St Pat's Um and it was overnamed Kit Paul Buster Sanchez
Um apparently his uh family um two of them I believe uh helped build that bridge um long
time ago So it was uh very well attended um very emotional um for some of the community members
Sounds like he was an absolutely fantastic um community leader on the north end So we're happy
to uh celebrate and highlight some of his work Thank you council members I see no
further comments Uh unfortunately we cannot leave We have an executive session
Uh so I will read this executive session I request an executive session for
the council I move that the council recess into executive session for 10 minutes to
receive information on a mediation pursuant to KSA75-4319B2 for legal consultation with
the city attorney which would be deemed privilege in the attorney client relationship
pending litigation legal advice The executive session is required to protect attorney
client privilege and the public interest Second motion and a second And any further
discussion i see none Mr Clerk please open the role The motion passes 70 I will move
another item I move that the council recess into executive session for 15 minutes to
receive information on a contract pursuant to KSA75-4319B2 for legal consultation with the
city attorney which we deemed privilege in the attorney client relationship Legal
advice Executive session is required to protect attorney client privilege
and the public interest Second Motion and a second Any further discussion
motion Uh Mr Clerk please open the role Motion passes 70 This is 25 minutes
in length So we shall return at 150 That gives us a quick little break as
well We will return at 150 Thank you