All right, thank you a sunshine announcement, please camp. Yes. Good evening chairman. Today is Tuesday March 10th in the year 2026 and this is a Jersey City Planning Board meeting with the scheduled 5:30 p.m. Start time and And in accordance with the Open Public Meetings Act, notice of this meeting has been given to the editor of the Bergen Record, L. Espelito, and posted with the city clerk on March 5th of 2026. This meeting was also posted on the Jersey City Division of City Planning webpage, and all distribution materials made available to the board were published and made available to the public. All right. Thank you. Could we have a roll call, please? Yes. Vice Chair Dr. Gonzalez. Here. Commissioner Gangadhan. Here. Commissioner Stamato. Here. Commissioner Kaplan. Getting used to this. Here. Yes. Commissioner Patel. Here. And Chairman Langston. Here. All right. We have six commissioners present. We have a quorum. All right. Thank you. Could we swear on the staff, please, Mike? I see Sophia, Matt, Ben, Cam. You guys ready for 20? Yes. All right. Thank you. Cam, do we have any correspondence? Yes, Chairman. Starting with Old business item nine. This is case P 2025-0248. This is for a one-year extension. They have requested to be carried with preservation of notice to March 24th. That is our next regularly scheduled meeting. So that's case P 2025-0248. Address is 364 6th Street for a one-year extension. Moving on into... Old business, no, new business continued on page 8 of your agenda. Item 26, this is case P2024-0008. The address is 33 Division Street. This is for a preliminary and final major site plan with C variances. They have requested a carry with preservation of notice to May 12th. And item, the next item on the agenda, item 27, page 9, it is case P2024-0226. It's a preliminary and final major site plan. Address is 3085 JFK Boulevard. And they have requested to carry with preservation of notice to April 28th of this year. And then, and that concludes correspondence. Okay. Thank you, Tim. And for the record, the sunshine is marked as B1. B1. Yep. Thank you. All right. Thank you. Okay. So let's open up old business. Item 8 is case P2025-0086 is a site plan amendment for 176 West Side Avenue. Chair, I'd have to recuse myself on this one. Thank you. Council, good evening. Good evening, everybody. Before we start, obviously, I don't have an attorney here right now. He's running late. I'm comfortable moving forward, but if at any time we have to consult with council, at least we have the luxury. We'll just push you off and we'll talk to Santo when he gets here. Absolutely. All right, great. Thank you. Go ahead. Sorry to interrupt. All right, so this is a notice application. We do have notices. I'm sure these are day one. And Ben, have you had a chance to look at those notices yet? No, I have not. Okay. Do you want to take a look real quick while Mr. Joseph is giving an opening statement? I guess I could. If you're not comfortable with that, that's fine. Yeah, I would like to look at that. Oh, shoot. No, I'm... Right? Let me shut this. Can I shut this off so... Okay so we're going to mark notice as A1. All right. This is 176 Westside. This is an amendment to a previously approved application. The project is currently under construction in consultation with the utility companies. There were some changes that needed to be made. The biggest change is the expansion of the transformer room and relocation of the transformer room. So the ground floor was shifted around quite a bit. Parking spaces were reduced. Parking is not required on this project anyway because of the affordable component. There were no variances in the original application. No variances being proposed by these changes. Erwin's getting set up now. He's going to walk you through the changes in the plan, which we feel are minimal. Okay, great. Thank you. Let's... Let's get you sworn in first, if you don't mind. I do. Erwin H. Keisel. I'm the architect who presented the original application, but I can elaborate on my qualifications if you'd like. Your license is current tonight? Okay. And you're the architect of record from the original application, correct? That is correct. Okay. Yeah, you're qualified, sir. Thank you. So if you could just briefly walk us through the changes, not only the changes in the Certainly. So there's a few changes to the site. We have a power company transformer that we had to place on the upper right hand corner of the site. As a result of that, we lost two parking spaces. And then there's another, we needed a barrier-free accessible EV charging station. That charging station required an additional space as compared to a normal parking lot, so we lost the third parking space. So as a result-- - And Erwin, if you don't mind, as you're talking about this, if you could just identify it on the plan as well. - Well, the EV charging station, near the center of the building to the left. Do you have a mouse or a pointer or anything you can just direct us to? So we're not looking behind us. They can see this moving around on the screen. Okay, I didn't realize they can. So this area is the transformer that we needed to add. We lost two as a result over there. And this is the EV, this is the area of the EV charger. And we put that in as required by code. And since it needs a striped area, we had to lose a parking space as a result of that change. Additionally, the gas meters on the exterior of the building and the electrical room is relocated next to stair number two, which is... this location as shown the Where was the original location sir? The original location was on the other side Thank you. The original location was on the other side of the plan Erwin so that just for the record that the top part of the screen is the original approval right and the bottom part of the screen is the Revised is that correct? Yes, that's correct. So in addition to those changes the The gym, which was originally located on the second floor, has been relocated to the ground floor, and that is where my mouse is now. The door to the building utilities room is relocated to the back wall for better access. That's in this location, right here. Oh, and right here, too. So those changes. And the community room, Erwin, was also moved and reduced in size? Yeah, the community room has been moved to this location where the mouse is located. There's a room off of the gym that's called the yoga studio. It's part of the gym. I'm sorry. And the... The configuration of the retail spaces has changed as a result of those relocations. The retail at the front of the building is shallower as a result of the changes I just indicated, and the retail on the far right-hand side of the building is smaller as a result of the electrical room placed where it is. Generally, that's the... Those are the changes on the first floor, on the base plan. Now, sir, that electrical room, is that the, I'm doing air quotes right now, but is that the vault, the electrical vault? Well, there isn't a vault per se. The transformer is located where I'm showing it now with the pointer. The building doesn't require a vault. Okay. And PSE&G is fine with the location of everything now? Yes. Okay. It doesn't have to have exterior access? Well, it does have it. It's entirely exterior. Oh, I'm sorry. That's in the back. Where that is. It's on a concrete pad. Apologies. No problem at all. Okay. Very good. Now, also, there's some kind of nuanced changes to the front of the building. Some of these retail doors have been recessed so they don't project out where they hadn't been recessed before. Other than that, that's the extent of the changes on this level. This is the second floor. I'm sorry if I'm slow on the computer. I don't usually use a laptop. Can you help me scroll? Trying to move the screen up. Thank you. Not a problem. Okay, so nothing has changed with regard to the apartment counts or apartment square footages. But if you look at the top of the screen on the original plan, there were balconies facing that were recessed into the apartments that are facing out. Those balconies have been removed and made part of the apartment units. As a result of that, you know, the apartment, the interior space of the apartments has gotten larger. But the counts, the number of bedrooms, all of that, nothing has changed. There are still a few balconies on the front of the building. But, and as a result of the balcony changes, which I'll show, I'll depict on the elevation drawings, because of the balcony changes, the window configurations on the elevations have changed because with the balconies there was a door and a window, now they're just large picture windows where the balconies used to be. Okay. A couple of other small changes. On the second and fourth floor, closets have been added next to stair number one, which are these closets right over here. And an elevator lobby has been created in front of the elevators, which is at this location. I've already talked about the windows. They've been resized from 5 by 6 to 7-2 by 6-0. A total of 39 windows have been affected by this change. So Erwin, generally we removed the balconies that created some extra space for each of the units that had those balconies. Correct. And resulted in some facade changes. Can you show us the elevations? Yes. Well, why don't you stay here? Yeah. So let's talk about the roof plan, which is on your screen right now. So we made some adjustments to the roof plan. Originally, there was a setback that we had to incorporate to comply with the ordinance, which we did. The setback is not 100% clear on the original drawing, but it's called out specifically on the new drawing, which is at the bottom of the page. The walkways have been clarified. They're very similar, but they've been clarified. And on the right-hand portion of the plan, we've added rooftop equipment. that was necessitated by code updates and we have screening around that equipment. So that would be in the location where my mouse is currently. - Could we zoom into that at all so we can just see what that writing is? - Oh, yeah, gotcha. Yeah, it's right, I'm sorry. - All right, no, go ahead. - Okay, so we indicate there's an air conditioning unit that wasn't clearly shown before. It's shown right here on this location. There's a walkway at this location. These are amenity spaces on the roof. This is the dog walk area. This is indicating the screens. And then to the right of all that is the standby generator and the RTU-1 unit, rooftop unit 1. As we go down on the page, There's the green turf that we're going to have on the roof, approximately 2,179 square feet. And to the left of that, I have to go back down, is more green. And we had to add an elevator disconnect room, which is shown on this plan. And please go to the right a little bit further. and there's another small accu roof equipment plan rooftop equipment mounted next to the elevator bulkhead and their elevations given for those uh for those uh pieces of equipment yeah and and we'll go to the uh what was approved as well zoomed in um over here so the addition of the mechanical area does result in the reduction of some of the green roof on the building that is correct thank you we need to go here I believe and I'm sorry get rid of that yeah now let's get to those elevations all right so on these elevations We're currently showing the north elevation. The top is the original approval. As you can see on the top, these are the balconies. In this case of the front elevation, the balconies are the same, but it's on the rear elevation where the balconies have changed. The doors to the retail units have been reconfigured slightly, but for the most part, they're the same. And on this side, there was original mechanical rooms, I believe, here, but those are now retail units. So the entire front of the building is either residential entrance or retail unit. One of the changes to the materials on these drawings is that the original concept was full-depth brick, or that is approximately 3-5/8 inches deep. We have changed from full-depth brick to thin brick and it's the exact same brick just thinner and it will have no impact on the appearance of the building. How about the insulation of the building, sir? Is there any extra insulation? There's additional. I can't tell you exactly how much additional insulation, what the additional R value is, but we have more depth and we have consequently more insulation. Okay, so we don't lose any insulation with the thinner brick is my question. Correct. The insulation is increased slightly. Okay, and those bricks are... Constructed off-site, right? They're not cut on-site? They're not cut on-site. They're brought from the manufacturer to the site, and they're erected by the masons. So this is the rear elevation. The top elevation is the original submittal. The bottom elevation is the proposed submittal. As you can see by this, These were originally balconies. Those balconies have changed to windows. And like I said, they're nice, large picture windows. Could we zoom in on those windows, please? Thank you. Sorry. So what you see in these locations, there are red clouds around the windows that have changed. Those were prior, they were balconies. Now there are windows. There is an HVAC grill under the windows. Prior, that was recessed in the balcony. Now it's on the facade. What is also depicted on these elevations is the screen that's appeared that is on the roof. Also, I'm pointing now to an elevator bulkhead That bulkhead did not appear on our original drawings, but it is now on our drawings. And the elevator unit is, there's also a vent unit. The approximate height to the top of the ventilation unit is 64 feet. It's a small piece of equipment. Mr. Keisel, can you show us the original again? Just move up? Yes. Scroll down or whatever. Yeah. Okay, so that was not obvious before. When we designed it schematically, we didn't... Irwin, it's not a new bulkhead. It was always part of it. It just wasn't depicted on the elevation in the old drawings, correct? Correct. But the bulkhead was in the original plans or no, counsel? It wasn't shown on the elevation. On the elevation, but it was in the section, correct, Irwin? Yes. I mean, without the bulkhead... There's no general, you know, the elevator wouldn't operate properly. I mean, these are the end elevations of the building. They're showing pretty much the same elements that are shown on the front and rear elevation. And pretty much that's the extent of the changes that we've made to the drawings. Okay, thank you. I do have a couple questions. Let's... Start with your plan that you're on right now. What's the height of the screening on the roof? Well, the screen is, I need to go to the roof plan. Okay. But it's about 55, I mean it's not higher than 55 feet, which is the height of the roof. Because we have the upper floor apartments are two level apartments, that was always the case. So they're the highest elements. And then there's a roof area around those two-story apartments. That's where the mechanical equipment is, and that's where the screen is. So those screens are below the top floor of the building. So if the high roof is 55 feet, the screens are a couple feet below that. Approximately. Yeah, I'll indicate for you Erwin. So this is the high roof that you're referring to right and this is down where the screening is correct? Correct. Okay. Um Something so on that drawing it says type screen material metal black color black elevation 53 feet 8 inches. Is that the height of the screen? That's the the where it sits on the elevation right Erwin the screening is not 53 feet. I Okay, typical type screen material, metal colors, black, 53 feet 8. Yeah, that's the screening material. Absolutely. That's the top of the screen. Thank you for pointing that out to me. And the top of the roof is 55 feet. Correct. So, I don't know, this might be an obvious question, but that's not black on the drawing. Do you have something that's accurate that we can see what it's going to look like that the neighborhood's going to have to look at eventually? Let me go back to the other elevation, see if it's better shown there. I don't think it's black on the other elevation either, but... I don't... Well, it's drawn as dark gray. The reason it's drawn as dark gray is because black just makes the drawing muddy. But if we're open to... If you have a preference other than black... Well, I'd like to... I'd like to see what it looks like. So, you know, the fact that you say it would look muddy on a drawing, is it going to look muddy in real life? No. It'll be black. So that's why we'd like to see him on the drawing beforehand. It's not that I want to change the color. I just want to see what it looks like. I agree with you, Chair, on that. Thank you. I mean, right now, I just can't. I don't have a problem with that. Well, the other... The other thing I'm looking at that jumps out at me is the elevator bulkhead. Right. So is that... That's brown? That's black? That's brown. That's the... That's siding material. That also... That's siding material. It's brown. Okay. Just... It looks like it just jumps out a little bit to me. You know, being that we didn't see that on the original elevations. Right. Was that... I don't recall, but was there a... A sight line drawing prepared, say, from across the street that had the angle of sight up to the roof? Not that I know. Okay, so that, the reason I'm asking, so that bulkhead is visible from... But in the scheme of the building, it's very small. Or when it's also within the height requirements. It's within the height, it's not a variance. Sure, sure, I understand. And... The idea is that it's kind of in the middle of the roof. It's very obvious on these elevation drawings because they're two-dimensional, but my opinion is, as an architect, that we'll Not be very visible unless someone is actually looking at it from a distance. Sure. Well, that's why I asked for that sight line angle. I've been on the board for 13 years now. I've seen two-dimensional drawings many times, sir. I understand. So, yeah, I'm just trying to get a feel for what it looks like from across the street, from, you know, is it visible from Fulton or is it past that sight line? I don't know that you can see the middle of the building from Fulton. Right. Yeah, if you can see the top of the building or the middle of the building, you won't see it. If you step far enough away, you'll see it, but you'll have to make a point of looking for it. Of course. Okay. So the last question I have at this point is it was on the second floor hallway, right? You mentioned that there's a new closet. Correct. That's been added. Right. What is that closet used for? Is it telecommunications equipment? Okay. I pointed it out. I can point it out. Yeah, I remember seeing it. I just didn't know what it was for. That was my only concern. These are the closets. Okay. So it's a communication closet. Okay. Those are my only questions. Anybody else? Yes. I have a question. How are you going to handle your garbage and recycling at this location? Garbage and recycling will be brought out. Are you getting it from the top floor down to the first? Oh, there's a... I'm sorry, I didn't understand your question. There's a recycling room on each floor in the location that I've shown, that I'm showing right now. So is that going to be done with chutes and basically... Yeah, there are chutes incorporated into... into the building that extend from the top floor down and those chutes end in a room on the first floor where it will be taken to the street. And that will be brought out to the west side? Correct. My other question is, talking about the dog run or whatever it is that you have on the roof, there's fencing, correct? Yes. How high is that? I have to go back to the roof plan. Okay. It's it's the height of the it's the height of the screen so that's so the fencing is The height of the screen and it's a dog walk more so right in a dog ride But yeah, there's a screen that faces the the outside of the building and that'll be cleaned up like once a day. Yes. Okay, so Erwin, the trash pickup and all that, it's unchanged from the original plan, correct? That's correct. That'll be done by a private contractor or the city? I can't honestly answer that question. I don't know what the rules of trash collections are. Mr. Joseph? I believe it's public pickup. So that's containerized then? Yeah, I... It will be. It will be. We will, if it's going to be picked up by the city, the building management will follow the rules of the city with regard to trash pickup. So it'll be, if the city requires containers, it'll be containers. If they prescribe a particular time when the containers have to be brought out to the street, they will be brought out to the street. our own clients are want to be good neighbors they're going to comply with all the city requirements so it'll be containerized and brought to the street it'll be probably a question probably then if it's going to be containerized all right okay um one last question sorry i apologize um and i'm at this point in my life the dog fencing screening does it go all the way to the ground Yeah, it will go within an inch of the ground, certainly low, you know, or to the ground entirely. I don't want to be evasive, but yes. Well, no, I want to see drainage and everything still, but I don't know whose dog could... You never know, but I don't, you know, I'm just concerned that a dog could get under there. That's all. It will be low enough so it would have to be a small dog or a couple. It'll go to the ground. Okay. If that's what's required, it'll go to the ground. Okay. Thank you. That's it for me. Anybody else? Any questions? No. Okay. Thank you, sir. We appreciate it. Thank you. Council, is that your presentation? That concludes our presentation. All right. Thank you. Is there anybody here from public that wants to comment? Anyone here from public? Mr. Chair, seeing no public, I move to close. Okay, we have a motion and second to close anything any concerns then Staff does not have any concerns. It still meets the purpose of the R2 zone as the previous approval had If you do have any conditions that you want about the color of the fence, I'm happy to include that To be honest. I think the fencing maybe should be match the siding just so it doesn't jump out so much. I just have concerns without being able to see it in black on an elevation drawing. So we'll provide whatever color is satisfactory to the board. I want to give you a little artistic license here, sir. But, you know, I don't know if... My preference is to... Make the elements on the roof dark so that they portray the top of the building. You know, that's an entirely subjective choice, but whatever planning wants, we'll be happy to do. And, Chairman, just for transparency, right, we're happy to do... Whatever the board would like or defer back to staff with regard to those elements the the primary concern of the applicant is getting the Transformer room a chore so they could they could sure understand stuff I have no problem with staff taking a look at it I'm not opposed to the black when you know when you say that you want that as an element to define the top of the building Correct. That makes sense. Okay, that makes complete sense. So I I'll leave it up to staff if you want to, you know, just double check it. Okay. When it comes in. All right. I will have that as a condition. Okay. Thank you. The other thing I'd like to see, Chair, is that on the garbage collection, I have it done privately because of the number of units. If you can check into that, I believe that's going to be, I think that'll fall under the requirements. That'll be both for the garbage and the recycling. Okay. a private type of collection all right i will look into that there's a there is a unit threshold where there's a compactor required and all that i don't recall that off the top of my head i don't think i don't think you qualify for that but here again you know what i don't want to give my opinion i'd rather have them check it out absolutely and then you would be willing to comply correct absolutely whatever the requirement yeah so we just make sure that they comply with the city ordinance for a compactor okay Thank you. Mr. Chair, I'd like to make a motion at this time to approve case P2025-0086 as presented to the board tonight. With conditions. With the conditions that we talked. Okay. Do I have a second, please? Second. All right. We have a motion and a second for approval. All right. Vice Chair Gonzalez? Aye. Aye. Commissioner Stabato aye. Commissioner Kaplan aye. Commissioner Patel aye. And Chair Langston aye. Motion passes all in favor. Okay thank you everybody. Before we start the next item I wanted to wait until our attorney was here I wanted to introduce everybody to our newest Commissioner, Commissioner Kaplan and Thank you, Chairman. You want to give a speech? Give a speech. It's fine. It's like a wedding toast. Sure. I'm here as a municipal rep. My background is in transportation engineering. I know many of the transportation engineers, and I'm sure will come before this council from being in the industry. Great. We're also going to be working with the Department of Infrastructure, so hopefully we'll be able to continue the strong partnership with the planning and development of the city with the traffic, transportation, and infrastructure component as well. So excited to join the esteemed board. All right. Thank you, Commissioner. Welcome aboard. And just for the record, Commissioner Kaplan did... He's got his paperwork with him, but he was sworn in by the city clerk previous to tonight's meeting. Oh, but that's, Chris, that means we don't get to swear him in? No. Oh. Sorry. Thank goodness. You're good? Yeah. Okay. So let's move on to the next item. It's item nine. It's case P2025-02. Oh, I'm sorry. And let the record show that Commissioner Gangit is back. Case P2025-0248 is a one-year extension for 364 6th Street. That's carried. Oh, I'm sorry. You guys let me read through that whole thing. apologies uh all right about the dogs yeah now i'm thinking i'm worried about those dogs getting under there uh all right item 10 case p2025-0252 is a site plan extension for 369 winton street Wait, I'm sorry, Whiten Street. Good evening. Good evening. And welcome, Commissioner Kaplan. My name is Rebecca Maioriello. I'm an associate attorney at Connell Foley. We represent the applicant here. The property is located at 369-371 Whiten Street. It is. It's not Whiten? It's Whiten. Whiten. On August 9th of 2022, the applicant received preliminary and final site plan approval from this board to construct a six-story building containing 20 residential units, two of which will be affordable. In September 10th, 2024, the applicant received a one-year extension to extend the vesting period of these approvals through August 9th, 2025. So we're here tonight on our second request for a one-year extension of these approvals. The The reason for this request is that the applicant has a few different properties in New Jersey City that they're working on recently obtained financing for, and this is next in line. I actually very recently, after a request from the lender, received a zoning determination. I worked with Ben Jordan on that. I got that about a week or so ago. We're getting the ball rolling with getting financing for this project. So we're respectfully requesting another one-year extension to extend the vesting period of the approvals to August 9th, 2026. And one more thing, I apologize, Council. We provided notice of this hearing tonight. May I tender this notice and mark it as A1? Chairman, I'm going to receive the affidavit of notice of proof of mailing with respect to the application. It does appear to be in order. We're going to mark it as A1 for the record. Thank you, counsel. Okay. Anything else? Nothing else. Thank you. All right. Thank you. Anybody have any questions? No. No, sir. Okay. Is there anybody here from public that wants to comment? Please come on up. Yes, I do. Yeah. Yes, my name is Dawn Odom, O-D-O-M. I'm a resident at 361-363 Whiten Street. This property will be one door down from me, and I understand this is just a preliminary extension. I would also ask, I don't know the policy, but if I can get a copy of the rendering and the design of this, and I'd like to stay on top of this. I'm also an employee of the City of Jersey City and a former redevelopment commissioner. So this is very dear to my heart because I'm one of the homeowners in that neighborhood who purchased this home under J.P. Affordable Law. housing in 1993 my children are 40 and 33 and this is pretty much the only house that they knew I'm concerned about the debris I will be looking at the construction how it HOW IT AFFECTS THE NEIGHBORHOOD. I WILL BE LOOKING AT HOW IT AFFECTS OUR COMMON LOT BECAUSE THERE WILL BE PARKING IN OUR COMMON LOT AND I WILL BE LOOKING AT THAT AND I WILL BE PAYING VERY CLOSE ATTENTION TO THIS PROJECT. IN THE BEGINNING I WAS KIND OF A LITTLE UPSET THAT THEY WERE TAKING THE TWO-FAMILY ROAD HOUSES We have a lot of development in that community, and I grew up hoping that I would be able to continue to see two-family homes on the block at least to keep some of the aesthetics alive. in the neighborhood, but it looks like development is pushing its way and rearing some of its ugly head. So at this time, I am going to definitely make sure that I stay on top of this and I'm concerned also about any rodents and as they begin to dig up the properties, again, how it affects us, how the parking will affect us. Right now, I believe the councilwoman is petitioning for a parking permits for the neighborhood. We have a serious parking problem over on Whiten Street and Pine because we are walking distance from the light rail. So again, I can't fight progress. I can only try to bear with it. And I do hope and pray that we receive some great tenants and community people that we can continue our, you know, continue to be at peace with each other. Sure. Thank you. All right. Thank you. Don't go anywhere yet. Sophia, are the architecturals and everything still available on the city site? They should be available, but they won't be available under this specific case number. So if it's possible, after, I would like to take your contact and I can email you directly and give you those resources you asked for. Yes, thank you. Yeah, let's make sure you get to see it. Yes, I did receive the notice. Luckily, I looked at my mail last night, so I made sure that I was here today. Thank you. Excellent. Thank you. We appreciate it. Anybody else from public? Seeing no more public, I move to close the public. Second. Okay, motion is made and seconded. Public is closed. Sophia, any questions, or I'm sorry, any concerns with an extension? No concerns. Staff asks that the applicant continue to agree to the conditions of the previous approval. Yes, of course. Okay. Thank you. Mr. Chair, I'd like to make a motion to approve case P2025-0252 as presented to our board tonight. Second. All right. Motion is made and seconded for approval. Vice Chair, Dr. Gonzalez? Just really quickly, Mrs. Odom, thank you for coming out. People like you that we're here for, really, and it makes us happy to see you here. Thank you for your commissioner time and the redevelopment. So I appreciate that a lot. It did make a difference in my kind of thought. I wasn't going to vote no for this, but in terms of just really being supportive, knowing that you're there, your history, and that you're entertaining this happening, but you want to be cautious, and we're going to hook you up as we already did. So thank you for coming, and I vote aye. Commissioner Stamato? Aye. Commissioner Kaplan? Aye. Commissioner Patel? Aye. Commissioner Gangadhan. Aye. And Chairman Langston. I'm sorry, that was I. All in favor, none opposed. Okay, thank you. Thank you, everyone. Thank you, Council. All right, let's get into new business. We'll call the review and discussion of certified artist Philip Pagotti, U. Hales Tocque, and Teresa Bonner. Formal action may be taken. So the three artists that have been presented to us tonight have been certified by the Artist Certification Board, meeting criterias 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5. And the planning staff finds them to be satisfactory and outstanding artists, which would allow them to apply for the artist housing in the city and planning staff recommends approval. Okay. Thanks, Cam. Any questions, anyone? No. All right. Is there anybody here from public that wants to comment? Anyone from public? Mr. Jersigno, public. I move to close. Second. All right. Thank you. Motion made and second. Public is closed. Cam, we already have your recommendation, so I'll entertain a motion. Mr. Jersigno, I make a motion to approve, as presented to the board, the review and discussion of certified artists Philip Bugatti, Hugh Hales-Took, and Teresa Bonner. And forward to City Council for formal adoption second. All right motion and a second for approval. All right vice chair. Dr. Gonzalez. Hi Commissioner Ganga didn't I just want to say congratulations to all the artists noted here. My vote is aye Thank you. Okay commissioners tomato. My vote is aye commissioner Kaplan. Aye commissioner Patel aye and chairman likes I motion carries all in favor. Okay. Thank you. Um Mr. Lean, how long do you think we need for Communipaw? Do we want to start it before a break? I hate to break it in the middle of testimony if we need a break. I think it could be 10 minutes. Okay. All right. So let's call item 13. It's case P2024-0206. It's a preliminary and final major site plan for 373 Communipaw Avenue. I'm going to start and I'll let my architect set up. Sure. Okay. Good evening, Commissioners. For the record, Tom Lean from the law firm of Connell Foley. The application before you tonight is a preliminary and final major site plan application, and notice was provided. This is posted on the portal, but I will provide the originals to your counsel. It's not a Connell Foley 15, is it? Is it a real world 15? Yes. Okay. Thank you, Mr. Lean. Chairman, I had reviewed this on the portal earlier, It does appear to be the original of the notice that was uploaded to the portal. It did appear to be in order. We're going to mark it as A1 for the record. Thank you, counsel. The application before you tonight is located within the Morris Canal redevelopment plan, specifically the mixed-use A area. The applicant is the Walker Foundation. Mr. Walker is here this evening. I'm sure many of you are aware of the good work that they do in the city here. The property, which is 373 to 379 Communipaw Avenue, currently contains the Walker Foundation's building. which is a three-story building that contains their after-school programs and their other facilities. The application is to add an addition and make this a five-story building, also containing 28 dwelling units. We are utilizing the bonus here, which requires 5% of the affordable units in the building. So that results in 1.4, so there's one, plus there will be an additional payment to the Affordable Housing Trust Fund. We do have on-site parking as well as on-site bicycle parking. There is a green roof as part of the project as well. I do have Mr. DeVino here who is my architect to run through the floor plans. One note I would make for the board, my notice did not include a variance that we are requesting which is for the drive aisle width. I do however have my catch all in there. I do have a leak line here who can go through testimony for that. However, when I see when you see the size of the garage, I think you will see that the the variance sort of speaks for itself. So I'm going to have Mr. Divino come up here and run through the floor plans and that should be all. All right. Thank you, Council. So we're in first. I do. Dennis Michael Divino. D-E-V-I-N-O. Mr. DeVino, good evening. Always a pleasure. Your license is current tonight? Yes, yes it is. Okay, thank you. You are qualified. Thank you. And you were the original architect of record on this project? Oh yeah. Okay, I thought so. All right. Okay, there we go. Okay, thank you very much for your time tonight and hearing this application. Mr. Lean gave a pretty much a quick little overview. What you're seeing here on this first plaque is the site plan, which actually identifies a little bit of a roof plan and all the zoning information is on here. Just again, I'll do another little quick little explanation. If you see that section, that's it. That's in gray. THIS AREA RIGHT HERE. THAT'S THE EXISTING BUILDING. IT'S ABOUT 3500 -- IT'S A FOOTPRINT ABOUT 3500 SQUARE FEET. THIS BUILDING FOR THE MOST PART IS AN ADDITION TO THAT EXISTING STRUCTURE. AGAIN, AS MR. LEAN IDENTIFIED, IT'S A FIVE-STOREY STRUCTURE. FIRST FLOOR WILL BE 12 PARKING SPOTS. A RETAIL SPACE FRONTING ON COMMUNIPOL. The new entrance and lobby will be on Halliday. There is bicycle parking for 14 bikes and 12 parking spots. Six of the parking spots are EV ready. And there is also on that lower level or that first floor is a place for the refuge as well. SO I'LL GO AND JUST GIVE YOU A QUICK LITTLE OVERVIEW OF THE ZONING CHART AS YOU CAN SEE UM THE BUILDING IS UM NOW I MEAN THE SITE IS A 100 BY 100 IT'S 10 000 SQUARE FEET UM THERE ARE NO WAIVERS THE UM THE THE FRONT FIRST LOWER LEVEL IS 100 LOT COVERAGE WE ON THE UPPER FLOORS WE HAVE A 10 FOOT SETBACK IN THE REAR THE HEIGHT OF THE BUILDING IS 54.8. WE ARE PROPOSING A 20% AFFORDABLE COMPONENT WHICH EQUATES TO SIX UNITS. THE ROOF -- WHEN WE GET TO THE ROOF PLAN, I CAN BE A LITTLE BIT MORE SPECIFIC, BUT WE HAVE AN OCCUPIED ROOF SPACE OF 1,915 SQUARE FEET AND A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF GREEN ROOF. AGAIN, THE BICYCLE PARKING IS 14 SPOTS. 12 spots on the vehicular parking. Moving over to the actual floor area, first floor, again, as I mentioned, 7,500 square feet, 6,750 square feet on the upper floors. We have a total of 28 residential units for our alcove studio. Advising me I need exercise, that's what that was. Four alcove studios. We have 16 one bedrooms to one bedroom with studies We also have two two bedroom with study two full two bedrooms and two full three three bedrooms total of 28 units 36 bedrooms all together and So AS TO THE FIRST FLOOR, AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE THE DARK OUTLINE IS THE EXISTING BUILDING. AND THEN THE ADDITION IS SET TO THE SOUTH AND TO THE WEST. THE RETAIL SPACE, AGAIN, AS I MENTIONED, IS FRONTING ON COMMUNIPOL. YOU CAN SEE THE ENTRANCE IS OFF OF HALLADAY, THE ENTRANCE TO THE PARKING GARAGE. AS WELL AS THE ENTRANCE TO THE LOBBY. WE HAVE A 250 SQUARE FOOT LOBBY. IT'S INDEPENDENT ELEVATOR FOR THE FIVE FLOORS. PACKAGE ROOM, REFUGE ROOM. THE REFUGE ROOM IS OFF AND IT KIND OF SHOWS HOW THE REFUGE -- THE RESIDENTS WILL BE BRINGING THEIR REFUGE DOWN INTO THIS SPECIFIC ROOM AND IT WILL BE TAKING OUT THROUGH THE DOOR AND OUT THROUGH THE through the overhead doors on Halladay. A large package room and pretty much the rest of the building services. Again, the floors are pretty much stacked. You can see this is the second floor. Along the south side of the rear of the building in this light rose color are all the one bedrooms. Again, they average about 700 square feet. The independent alcove studio is fronting on Halladay. You can see that it's a little over 430 square feet. We have a true two-bedroom. We really like the way this laid out because we do actually have a large light well almost in the center of the site, which... WE'LL BRING LIGHT NOT ONLY INTO THIS TWO-BEDROOM AND THREE-BEDROOM UP ON THE UPPER FLOORS BUT IT'S ALSO GOING TO ALLOW US TO BRING IN LIGHT INTO THE HALLWAY WHICH YOU VERY RARELY GET AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO LIGHT IN THERE. IN THE FRONTING ON COMMUNIPUL IS THE -- IN THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF THE PROJECT IS THE ONE BEDROOM WITH STUDY. AS WE MOVE UP THE BUILDING, I CAN PROBABLY -- THEY'RE PRETTY MUCH, AGAIN, AS I SAID, THEY'RE ALL STACKED UNITS, AS YOU MOVE UP THE BUILDING, IF WE WANT TO LOOK AT THE FOURTH FLOOR, THE DIFFERENCE IN THE FOURTH FLOOR AND THE LOWER TWO FLOORS IS WHEN WE GET ABOVE THE EXISTING STRUCTURE, WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO PUT ANOTHER WINDOW IN, IN THIS FORMER ONE BEDROOM WITH THE STUDY, SO NOW WE HAVE A TRUE TWO BEDROOM, AND HERE'S WHERE ON FOUR AND FIVE WE'RE ABLE TO CREATE THE THREE BEDROOM UNIT BECAUSE WE CAN PUT A WINDOW IN WHAT USED TO BE A STUDY AND CREATE A MASTER suite with a bathroom and creating two, three bedrooms in the project. The roof, you can see it's a 1,915 square foot roof deck. It's really worked out well because we have ample space LOCATION FOR MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT IS A 200 SQUARE FOOT, 290 SQUARE FOOT SPACE TOWARDS THE HALADAY SIDE AND ANOTHER 235 SQUARE FEET FOR MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT TOWARDS THE COMMUNIPUL SIDE. THERE'S A LARGE GREEN ROOF BUFFER ALL AROUND THE PERIMETER. WE HAVE ON HALADAY, SIX FOOT NINE, 7 feet in the rear and over 10 and 10 feet on facing on commune Paul so we have a lot of green roof but buffer the green roof totals a thousand 25 square feet the other thing we able to do is we created a Garden grow zone. So we actually can 1160 square feet of this roof is not only going to be green space, but it's also going to be a vegetable garden The rear of the building is all the rear units, all the one bedrooms in the rear have either independent private terraces or private balconies. You can see we're using a gray stucco in the rear and gray hardy board or hardy plank on the actual floors two through three. 2 through 5 The holiday facing side we wanted to pick components and elements that were similar to what the existing building was But still let it stand on its stand at its own independent Structure so you could see the we're using the same in the brick family the same pretty much the same family that the existing building is and we're using a similar pattern you could see that these these Sorry the piers These gray peers are proud of the field, the lighter fields, TAN BRICK. SO THE ORANGEST BRICK STANDS PROUD OF THAT. SO CREATING THESE FOUR VERTICAL PIERS. IF YOU LOOK AT THE PATTERN ON THE LOWER LEVEL OF THE EXISTING BUILDING, IT HAS A HORIZONTAL PATTERN IN THE MASONRY WORK. WE DECIDED TO TAKE THAT HORIZONTAL PATTERN AND USE IT IN A MORE DURABLE METAL CLADDING. And on the Communipole side, it's a very similar concept, very similar design with vertical piers branched at the top with a fencing area, which right behind that fencing area would be the green roof, but branched with a fencing section. And again, the lower area still has that vertical metal panel design. So just you can look at now the rendering. Obviously you can see how it's going to look with the with the rear balconies and then we have one more rendering on the roof. So you can see it's a substantial roof deck there for the entire residential units. And then we have the materialist. I'd like the board to give me a little bit of design preference on what kind of infill panels we're going to use, because the plan is to use these spandrel panels underneath the windows. We're proposing either a 45-degree brick turn or possibly a terracotta tile. So the last item I just would like the board to be aware of is the rear of the building. Which we didn't unfortunately show in this is that pretty much between These two windows this one and this one we're going to have to bring some kind of a vertical. Um component up for garage exhaust, so Um, we prefer to have it right here We'll barely see it. If not, I have to put it on the inside of the building and take space away from those one bedrooms oh, um, that's the um That's the end of my presentation. If there's any questions. So what you just mentioned, you're giving us the choice? Of choice. What was it, of? I have two things that I wanted to bring the board's attention to that aren't shown on the design because it seems like the designs have to be more and more specific these days because every little change, we end up back here and asking for your blessing. So I was hoping to be able to try to do that while I'm here tonight. Right at this location, we need, it's an enclosed garage structure, so we need a carbon dioxide exhaust system. So right here is typically where we would put a vertical duct. Okay. That duct can be on the interior, and then we won't have it, but you barely see it. So it's not shown on the plan and not shown on the design, so... We can just keep it on the inside of the building, and then we don't, you know. And so that was all I was trying to say. I was hoping not to have to be here and ask you for that approval. Can you bring in exhaust? It's a duct. It's an enclosed duct. So whether it be in a shaft. So whether it be on the inside or the outside, it'll be a fire rated shaft. Okay. That was my question. It's in a fire rated shaft. It's not just in a wall on the interior. No, it has to be in a two hour shaft. And you want to vent it through the roof. It has to go to the roof. Yeah, right. Yeah, because otherwise the exhaust will be on the terraces or going into someone else's property. So the ideal spot to put it is to get it as high as you can on the roof. Okay. OFF THE RECORD? IS THIS UNION CONSTRUCTION OR NON-UNION CONSTRUCTION? I WANT TO GENERATE AS MANY MANHOURS AS POSSIBLE. I REALLY DON'T KNOW. I WISH I COULD TELL YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, IF WE'RE THAT FAR ALONG. IT'S NOT RELEVANT. I'M NON-UNION. THAT'S ALL I CAN TELL YOU. OKAY. MOVE ON. I'VE VOTED FOR YOUR PROJECTS IN THE PAST. THAT'S NOT AN ISSUE. Obviously my preference would be interior to the building. I'll ask the board, anybody else, any questions? Okay, yeah, obviously interior to the building is always best practice for something like that. We have one for the outside though. That doesn't matter. Good old rule. Okay, not a problem. Inside it is. Chairman, so we don't have to come back on that change because you said it might change some of the interior. Can we just, as a condition of approval, we'll agree to work with staff on the location of that? Sure, as long as the location is interior to the building, yes. Agree to work with staff on the interior location. Sure, perfect. Okay, any questions for Mr. DeVino? Before I just want to quickly... Sure, go ahead. Mr. DeVino, are you in receipt of the memorandums prepared by our Division of Transportation dated December 23, 2024, and the one from the JCMUA dated January... Yes, we have all the memos. And we can comply with all? Yes. I have nothing else. Chairman, I'd like that. Go ahead. You want to go first? No, please, by all means. In regards to the affordable units, are they located on each floor, and is there a specific assignment already? There's obviously one bedroom, and there's studios. So there's six total units. So the plan was to do a studio, a two-bedroom, a three-bedroom, and the rest ones. Okay. So there'll be a total of six. Thank you. Well, counsel, they do have to obviously comply with the ordinance in terms of number and mix. Yeah, I mean, there's a requirement here as to the 5% of bedrooms. It's going beyond that. So, you know, we'll deal with the Division of Affordable Housing. And I should state that the applicant has been designated. We haven't entered into the redevelopment agreement, but that's probably going to control it. whoever we're going to first it's gonna get it's gonna get codified in one of those documents okay and council you know I always ask for this that all the materials in the affordable units are the same as the materials and the fit and finish as the market rate units that's correct okay thank you that you had a question of the balconies can we have a one inch or three inch I'm sorry three inches of The bottom piece of the balcony on the outside. We used to be able to do that, but I think it has to be barrier-free now. So I think it almost has to be even. Good. Yeah. That used to be we were able to drop that lower, but now I believe it needs to be pretty much even with the floor. Okay. Yeah. How does that drain now? Is that a drainage problem? No. Well, I mean, the terraces will have a lower roof section, and then we'll have decking. SO THE WATER WILL GO THROUGH THE DECKING JUST LIKE A ROOF DECK MATERIAL. AND THEN THE OTHER BALCONIES ARE MADE OF A WOOD MATERIAL. SO IT WILL FLOW THROUGH. OKAY. VERY GOOD. MR. CHAIRMAN? SURE. GO AHEAD. ONE QUESTION. FORGIVE ME. IT'S ON THE SITE PLAN. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S FOR THIS PERSON OR THE ARCHITECT OR FOR SO SHOULD I ASK IT NOW ALL RIGHT ONE QUESTION SO ON THE SITE UH THE CIVIL PLAN I SAW IT BASED ON THE ARCHITECTURAL PRESENTED UM ON THE CORNER OF HALLADAY AND COMMUNIPUL THERE'S A CONCRETE BUMP OUT ON THE CORNER RIGHT TO EXTEND THE PEDESTRIAN SPACE WHICH I APPLAUD UM BUT I I DID WANT TO JUST INQUIRE IF A CURB CUT WAS BEING PROVIDED FOR BOTH CROSSWALKS I SEE ON THE SITE PLAN ONLY ONE WE'RE NOT GOING THAT FAR THAT THAT'S THAT OUR BUILDING ACTUALLY WILL START some 50 feet back. So the curb cut we'll be creating will be... Well, there's an existing curb cut there now because there's a parking lot there. Yeah, in the driveway. So are you adding this concrete curb extension on the corner or that's outside the scope of your project? No, that curb extension is there already. I see. Yeah, they did that. What we're doing is just... We're moving the curb cut from wherever the driveway is now to the new drive aisle location. Perfect. I understand. Thank you. And I should note that in the comments we got from transportation, if anything is taken away during construction, we have to replace it. So that's part of what we're agreeing to as part of the comments from transportation. Okay. Excellent. Thank you. Anybody else? Anything? All right. Thank you, Mr. Dudino. Appreciate it. I am going to have Lee Klein just get up here very quickly to run you through the waiver we're asking for, for the -- Ready to go. Here he is. All right. I do. Lee, middle initial D as in Daniel, Klein, K-L-E-I-N. My license as a professional engineer is current and in good standing. I'm also a nationally certified PTOE, and that's also in good standing. All right. Thank you, Mr. Klein. You're qualified. Thank you. So in order to prepare for this, we did a traffic study, a traffic engineering evaluation. I did the trip generation. The report is dated back in September 4th, 2024. So at that time, it was the 11th edition of the trip generation. I'm good. I'm good. No, I'm good. And the 28 units are expected to generate nine trips in the morning, one trip coming in, eight trips leaving. And in the afternoon, seven total trips in an hour, the highest peak hour in the evening, five coming in, two coming out. So I just wanted to go over the parking layout. So right now we're looking at that's the ground floor with the parking. And the parking, the aisle width as you come in from the street is 20 feet, four inches wide. That's wide enough for a car to wait for another car to come in before another car can exit. And because of the traffic volumes being so low and very directional, in the morning, eight people are going to come out in the highest peak hour. Only one's going to come in. Chances of that happening in the same moment are pretty slim. Same with the evening peak hour. The numbers are five coming in and two leaving. Again, pretty low chance that there'll be more than one vehicle doing that. So we've got... Good distance, sight distance, be able to see if somebody's coming out of a parking spot. If the garage door is coming open and somebody's coming in, they'll be able to pull over to one side, let this other person enter, and then they'll be able to exit. At the end of the parking aisle, there's a little hammerhead area. That little three-foot distance from space number one allows that vehicle to be able to do a K-turn to get in or out of their parking spot. So the site is designed, I believe, to be efficient and safe, to accommodate the 12 parking spaces, to allow traffic to enter and exit safely and efficiently in the space that's allotted. Thank you, Mr. Klein. I do have two quick ones for you. Is there any kind of indicator when cars are exiting the garage, just an audible signal? Yeah, we always put a flashing light, usually an orange warning flashing light, as soon as the doors open. Okay. It's connected to the door operation. Okay. All right, thank you. Actually, that's fine. That's my only question. I just wanted to ask Mr. Klein a question. I never get to ask you anything. I hardly ever get to come up here. Right? But I'm sure in the future I'll be up here a lot more now. Okay. Any other questions? Anyone for Mr. Klein? All right. Thank you, sir. That's our presentation. I would just put on the record that we did meet with the Morris Canal Development Corporation almost a year ago to the date back on March 5th of 2025. So we did fulfill the community notice portion of this application. Great. That's all I have. All right. Thank you, counsel. All right. Is there anybody here from public that wants to comment on this application? Anyone from public? Mr. Chair, seeing no public, I move to close the public. Second. Second. All right. Motion is made and seconded. Public is closed. Camp, anything you want to add? Yes, so the applicant and their attorney have agreed to the conditions stated in the staff memo, and we'll make sure we add the seventh condition for the review of the aesthetics on the building. And the materials for the affordable units. Correct. And yes, we agree to all the other conditions in the memo provided by staff. Great. All right, thank you, Councilman. Planning staff finds that the variance the applicant is seeking is de minimis We don't find that it would have any detriment to the zone plan the master plan the public's general health welfare or well-being the applicant was amenable to the planning staff comments and they were in communication with the transportation department regarding the garage and and the application before us tonight would bring this lot into conformity with the redevelopment plan whereas existing the surface parking lot is actually not required under the redevelopment plan so we're happy to see the development and the improvements to the site and planning staff obviously welcomes affordable housing, and with that, planning staff recommends approval with conditions. Okay, thank you, Kim. Mr. Joe Legs, I'm going to make a motion at this time to approve case P2024-0206 as presented to our board tonight. Second. All right, motion is made and seconded for approval. Vice Chair Dr. Gonzalez? Aye. Commissioner Gangadin? A great addition to the neighborhood, beautifully designed. Affordable units love it. which is very much needed in the neighborhood together with the parking. My vote is aye. Commissioner Stamato? Love the project. I vote aye. Commissioner Kaplan? Likewise. Great project. Aye. Commissioner Patel? Aye. And Chairman Langston? Yeah, it's a great project. And I think possibly the first rooftop garden I've ever seen on the planning board. We appreciate that. Thinking out of the box. So yeah, it's a definite aye for me. It's a great project. Motion carries all in favor. All right. Thank you, everybody. We're going to take a 10-minute break real quick. Thank you. Back in 10. Yes. Thank you very much, sir. To everybody. And I do have to move up one application. So at this point, I'm going to call item 28 and 29. It's the same application. So we're going to call case P2025-0101 and also P2025-0102. We're going to start with a minor subdivision at 455 3rd Street and then move into a preliminary and final major site plan with C variances for 455 3rd Street. Good evening, counsel. Good evening. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, commissioners. For the record, Charles Harrington of Connell Foley on behalf of the applicant. This is a both cases are, well, actually the minor subdivision is not a notice case, but we did provide notices for both applications tonight, and I just handed those to counsel. Chairman, I receive the affidavit of publication proof of mailing with respect to the preliminary and final major site plan approval as well as the minor subdivision approval. We're going to mark each one of them as A1 under their respective case names. They appear to be in order. Okay, then I'll jump right in with just a little overview and then hand it off to our experts. This is a project that we've been working on for some time. The minor subdivision is proposed because it leads into the site plan in Agenda Item 29. The property is located in the R1 zone, and it's also located in the P-Pod, which is interesting in that it's It's located at the end of 3rd Street downtown on the west side of the Turnpike and just below the Conrail tracks and the cemetery, which if you watch The Sopranos, that's where they have all their funerals. So there's no cliffs there or anything, but we completely comply with the P-POD. The project will consist of the creation of three as-of-right lots in the R1 zone, so there's no variances in connection with those lots. And then we are proposing three separate buildings, which will be one building will have 26 residential units that will be utilizing the affordable housing overlay. So it will provide for 15% affordable units within that project, which results in four affordable units. The other building will be a smaller building with three units. That's kind of in the middle building you'll see during the presentation. And then the final building is a combination of five townhouse type units which will result in 10 residential units. So it's a total of 39 units. I can represent that we've been working on this project with the Village Neighborhood Association. We've met with planning and worked with them on different iterations. We've been working extensively with the Jersey City Municipal Utilities Authority on this application and as well as the New Jersey Turnpike. So there's been a lot of conversations, a lot of coordination before we got here tonight. And this is a result of it. We also between the last meeting and this we met with the new councilwoman, Elena Little, on it as well. So we, you know, we've kind of made our rounds, if you will. So. With that said, I have three witnesses tonight to take you through this. First will be my engineer, Connor Ritter. He'll address the proposed subdivision and the site because it is, I think engineering is important because it is a little bit of a unique site where it's located. Currently, if I just take it back, if I back up, it's the former Jewel Electric building down there. So now it's abandoned. My client owns it and this is ripe for development. My client actually built across the street. So he likes this area in the neighborhood. So I'm going to move forward now with Mr. Ritter and then our architect and then Sam Bellamy and we have our traffic engineer Andrew Vicio here in the event there are any questions in that regard. Okay, thank you, counsel. Yes, Connor Ritter, C-O-N-N-O-R-R-I-T-T-E-R. Mr. Ritter, good evening. Your license is current tonight in the state of New Jersey? Good evening, that is correct. Okay, thank you. You're qualified. Mr. Ritter, could you start your presentation by taking the board through the site and a proposed subdivision? Sure, yes. I'd like to start here with an aerial exhibit. I don't know if this is up on the screen. Let me see. There we go. So this is not part of the package that was submitted, so we should mark this as A2, if that's okay, counsel? One of one? Correct. A2. A2. Yeah, so sitting here, this is an aerial exhibit depicting the site. As Chuck mentioned, we are at the west end of 3rd Street here, just on the opposite side of the New Jersey Turnpike. We're an end lot, kind of capping the street and its dead end. What we are proposing for the subdivision here, and I'm going to move to the subdivision plan that was provided as part of the package. What we are proposing is to consolidate the existing lots, which are block 10, 901, lots 117, 133, and 134. And then re-subdivide these into newly proposed lots 117.01, 117.02, and 117.03. So those lot numbers are running left to right on the page here, otherwise south to north, with lot 117.01 being the large lot to north. South of 3rd Street, 117.02 being the end west of the dead end, and then 117.03 being the north side of the street. These lot numbers have been verified with the Tax Assessor's Office as well. And this subdivision plan, as shown here, has been prepared by a licensed surveyor with our office. as mentioned before these lots are all conforming with the neighborhood housing district lot standards that are applicable here moving on from the subdivision plan i'm going to move into the site plan this is a site plan as provided by with the submission we are proposing a Multifamily building consisting of 26 units and three stories on lot 117.01 to the left hand side of the page. three-story multifamily building consisting of three dwelling units on lot 117.02 and then a three-story residential building containing ten dwelling units in more of a townhouse style on lot 117.03 on the right hand side of the page. What the 26 dwelling unit building contains no parking as does the three unit building. The three unit building contains no parking due to its lot size does not allow for it being 50 feet wide. And then the 26 unit building does not require parking as it is utilizing the affordable housing overlay exemption for that. The townhouse style building on the right hand side on lot 117.03 is proposing 11 parking spaces in the rear yard as required by the ordinance with a 10 foot wide driveway that runs along the east side of that lot and connecting into 3rd streets. Other features of the buildings that are notable here is that we are requesting relief for the height exception on the 26 unit building in order to accommodate a elevator bulkhead to provide elevator service for the building tenants. And then on the townhouse style units, we are requesting a five foot front yard setback where zero, a zero foot setback is required in order to space those back given the awkward lot geometry with the subdivided lots there. I'm sorry, can you just point that out where it is? Sure. So that five feet exists here. right here at this first unit's entryway where it is set back from the property line. So that is the closest point of that building. OK. It's supposed to be zero. It is supposed to be zero in line with the character of the rest of the neighborhood. The other buildings in the neighborhood here are lot line buildings otherwise. Given the the nature of this style and how it sets back into the lot in order to provide That entryway and connectivity down to that fifth entrance Just requires the buildings to be stepped a little further back away from the front property line all utilities for the properties are going to be individually serviced to each of the three Lots as required and all those utilities stem from Third Street as existing and we are proposing we're proposing some improvements to the combined sewer in Third Street where it extends down to service exclusively this development here For stormwater on the property, we're proposing a stormwater detention tank beneath the building on lot 117.01 to the left, and then we are proposing a porous pavement system in the parking lot behind lot 117.03 in order to manage our stormwater on site. Other features of the project, the lighting, we have wall mounted and pole mounted fixtures throughout to provide ample and safe lighting throughout the property. We are requesting a waiver for the maximum lighting intensity at the property line given how it conflicts with the requirement to provide sufficient lighting for sidewalks. So we've opted to provide safe illumination of the sidewalks in lieu of reducing our illumination at the property line. Yeah, I believe that is what I have for this. um other approvals that that we've received we've received approval from the new jersey department of environmental protection for flood hazard area individual permit as well as exception from the county and certification from the soil conservation district all right thank you mr ritter um you mentioned some sewer improvements can you go into detail on what those are sure yes um Along 3rd Street here there is an existing combined sewer that runs west towards the property to service the existing Jewel Electric facility and we're just looking to replace that existing sewer in kind to support the development. It's in poor condition and I believe in some places it's running backwards. And you've been coordinating your plans with the MUA, correct? Yes, we've had extensive coordination with JCMUA on the plans, and we've received review letters from them. We've received review letters from the planning department as well as traffic, and we're willing to work with all departments to address comments as needed. Okay, and there's no other property owners that that affects, right? I don't believe so, no. It just runs all the way down to the end here. The other properties along this run of 3rd Street is the turnpike and then park space, open space. Okay, so you're not going back any further than that. That would affect anybody else. Okay. All right, that's my only question. Anybody else? Chairman, just a quick question. Sure. You're shown, I guess, are those parking stalls behind the buildings on the right? That is correct. How are those accessed? So along the south end or the east end, Page South, on the plan here, there is a 10-foot-wide drive aisle that is serving these parking spaces. Gotcha. So tenants can pull off of 3rd Street, come down, and then access the parking. Has Public Safety had a chance to review this to ensure the fire is comfortable with this kind of layout in terms of these units at the end that aren't directly abutting a roadway? We'll make sure to confirm with public safety that they're comfortable with it as shown. We have provided truck turning diagrams illustrating access and turnaround on the end of 3rd Street here otherwise though. It has been reviewed by the Jersey City Traffic and Engineering Department and we received comments from them which we have no problem addressing and complying with. Thank you. And is there fire suppression in the buildings? I know I'm getting ahead of myself. That's probably in the next presentation, right? Yeah, I can let the architect speak to that. Okay, sure. Well, from a civil standpoint, are you providing a service for a fire connection to the building? Yes. Okay, perfect. Thank you. Okay, I have no other questions. Anybody else? All right. Thank you, sir. All right. Thank you. Okay, then we're going to move forward with Mr. Bruchardt. Yes, no. Okay, perfect. Yes, I do. Yes, hello, my name is Russell. Last name is Bodnar, B-O-D-N-A-R. Sorry. Thanks. Mr. Bodnar, good evening. Your license is current? Yes, my license is current. Okay, thank you. You're qualified. Okay, thank you. All right, as you can see, I put the rendering of the coming down the street on 3rd Street. So you can see there's three buildings, three basic, well, three. And Russ, just for the record, this is part of your package, correct? Yes, it's in the package, yes. Okay, thank you. So as you come down the street, it's basically a dead-end street. Right now, there's actually an existing older building on the site that's going to be demolished. As you can see, there's a left-hand side. On the left-hand side, that's the 26-unit building. Straight ahead is the three-unit building, and on the right-hand side, there's a series of townhouses. Each of the townhouses has two units each, and there's five of them, and then there's parking behind those townhouses as well. So that's basically the... the idea of that. And if you go down here, you can take a look at the second rendering. We show a little bit more of a view of the building on the left, which is a 26-unit building. And that building is like, as you can say, it's a beige-looking brick building with some black accents, and that's what we're kind of looking to do there. The school up the street has a beige look, so that's where we're kind of staying with the context of the neighborhood. And we also added that little rendering, that little... mural on the side of the building because that was kind of a blank spot and we kind of felt when you drove down you kind of just looked at a blank wall and didn't really like that. So as you can see here this is a more of a view of the right hand side and these are our townhouses and each of the townhouses again is a is two units and each of those two unit townhouses are actually triplexes so they have three floors each and each of those has a roof deck portion of the roof deck on each of those. So and then the one obviously we got to last is the three unit building in each of the floors is a single unit and although the top floor unit has the entire roof deck for themselves. So let's jump right into the plans. Council, I'm confused as to where the affordable units are. There are 10 affordable in the townhouse layouts. No, the the the affordable units are within the 26 unit building because we're using the affordable housing overlay, which then you don't have the density standard anymore. So it's 15 percent of the 26 units gets us to the four units within that that building. And they would then be spread out among residents. YOU KNOW THE DIFFERENT FLOORS OF THE BUILDING AND ALL THE MATERIALS WOULD BE THE SAME AND THEN THE THREE UNIT BUILDING AND THE TOWNHOUSE BUILDING ARE DON'T HAVE ALL MARKET RATE YEAH THAT THAT'S RIGHT BECAUSE THEY THEY COMPLY WITH THE DENSITY STANDARDS FOR THOSE LOTS CORRECT THAT WE'RE CREATING CORRECT YES SO AS YOU CAN SEE HERE ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE IS A THE 26-UNIT BUILDING I'M SHOWING THAT FIRST that building has eight units on the first floor and then nine units in the upper two levels so the 26 units we're doing four of those units is going to be the affordable housing units and we have one of them are going to be a three bedroom and the rest are going to be located within the building as per the requirement um as you can see here the reason that that lot itself is only really allowed to have 13 units as of right so as a right without the affordable housing overlay So if you can see on the upper left hand side, we're raised off the ground a significant amount of, we're about seven feet off the ground due to the base flood elevation numbers. So on the left-hand side, there's actually like a little crawl space drawing, this one over here. And right on the main part of the street, underneath the building itself, there's places for garbage to be stored underneath. So that's about five feet tall. There's little doors that slide, and the garbage gets slid right underneath there. And down along the walkway, along the left-hand side of the building, It has the bike parking stalls slotted underneath all these raised section as well. And they're actually like on a rack that you slide in and you can lock it. And then actually the door itself will be a locking mechanism as well. But it's a sliding door that allows multiple people to use it. So that was an idea that we kind of came up with in terms of how we can take care of the bike parking and be very accessible. Council is that a deviation? I don't know in terms of what don't it's located inside the building, but it's kind of you know Like if you on the side of the building, it's a little bit strange But you know, I kind of thought this was a great idea to use this I mean in a spot. What do you think? So if you're right like back to me on that bike parking should be inside right? That's the ordinance. Yes So is this considered inside? It's inside the structure itself underneath the building. I Yeah, I would. I'm not concerned. I don't believe it's a variance. Okay. All right. Go ahead, Pat. I'm looking at your sanitation. Yes. That is basically set up for a side loader. Is there some other type of container you're going to use? I was thinking of using these because I could just roll them underneath that, underneath the section that's about five feet tall where I could slide them out. But who's going to pick it up? Oh, okay. Well, I can always go with a regular standard one as well and just have the person pull it out. Was this going to be set up for city collection? Oh, we were going to set it up for city collection, I thought. Well, they're not going to be able to pick that up. Because they're just, yeah. You're going to have to go with the regular type of container. Okay. That's fine, too. The longer ones, they're shorter. Yeah, that's fine, too, because I have lots of space for that. You're also going to set that up for recycling? Yes, recycling as well. All right, now go for every building that you're putting in and every building I'm going yeah every billion we have has Recycling and a spot like the building in the middle. I'll show you in a minute that has a spot as well like Jumping ahead but the other building the townhouses have them behind and by the garage area in the back There's a there's a section in there that we have each individual has their own I'll go through each of those with that ten feet is that gonna be good enough for a garbage truck to get in the back I Where the ten feet no, we're gonna know we're gonna bring the garbage cans on the front Oh, you're the person each people has their townhouses will be responsible for bringing their garbage to the front Okay, I understand once I go right now. Okay, I'll jump into those two All right, as you can see here we go down. These are floor plans in this the the we have 18 one bedrooms and the 18 one bedrooms it's 700 square feet to 737 square feet and We have seven two bedrooms and it's 1,032 square feet to 1,141 and the three bedrooms 1,032 square feet. So that's the affordable unit. If we go down more, skip the second floor is basically the same as the primary. The first floor barring the area that we use for the lobby. As you come up the roof deck itself is extensive. It's a 3,300 square foot roof deck. and we have about 3,100 square feet of green roofing on our roof deck alone, and we are 22, we're about 22% of the lot area in terms of our green roofing, which means we're way over the number that we're required in terms of the zone. If we go back down a little bit further, you can see some of the elevations, although I showed you earlier the elevations were brick on the two sides, which is the front side, which is the street side, and also the side that's on the left-hand side, which really isn't the street side, but it's a primary thing. You're going to see it when you come down the street. You're going to see that entire elevation, so we felt it was a good idea to put that all as brick on that section. And then on the back, it's going to be cementboard siding. And same thing on the bulkheads and everything else. It's going to be cementboard siding. And there's some colors that we had decided to use, and they're also kind of depicted on the rendering. If we go down, we can see the larger scales of the buildings, of each of the buildings, on that number, and then we go jump into our building in the middle. It's three units, three stories, and each of the units has its own floor. So those units themselves are very large. They are... Where is it, here is it. Yeah, you have four bedrooms, two four-bedroom units, and each of those is 1,400. One's 1,400 and 14 square feet, one's 1,500 square feet. And a three-bedroom unit, as a top floor unit, has a three-bedroom and a study, and it's 1,766. So that unit itself gets the entire... roof deck to themselves as their own private roof deck and that private roof deck is 689 square feet and we have 680 square feet of green roofing trays on the roof on that location. The other one, the second floor, gets a small balcony as you can see here in the back of the building as their private outdoor space and the first floor unit gets actually the yard itself in the rear yard. And that's their outdoor space. If you can see down below again here, we got that crawl space area and we have the bikes located on the left hand side. And again, that trash room located underneath that space that's being used as the crawl space area. So we felt that was a good idea to use that. This way it's accessible, it's outside. You don't have to climb up and down stairs, especially because we're in a flood zone and we have to raise the building like six feet off the ground. So just to do that. And our building itself, like I didn't mention earlier, our buildings are like 38 feet high, like 38, 37 feet high. And that's because we are really from base flood elevation. We're only 34 feet high. But since we have to raise the building for it on an average because the grade slopes up, Six to under four feet in the back of the building because we're actually in the back of this area where the grading starts Ramping up the back of the saw at the back of each of these buildings and I can show you that a little bit here They come down like you can see here like even you see in the elevations like that whole you know, from the front, it starts sloping. Things start sloping up and down depending on the location of where we are in the building. So some places slopes up, some places slopes down depending on where we are. The front of this is actually higher on the building in the middle than the building on the left-hand side. If we go back down a little bit further, you can see again that rendering again was shown with the building in front. And that building has a little bit of stone work on the front. So we were doing up the street, there was culture stone on one of the buildings that was just done. So we were trying to bring all the elements of the neighborhood in, and we did some culture stone on this building, and some metal panels in the front, and obviously the cement board sidings on the rear and on the bulkheads. And if we go down to our townhouse buildings... Each of the townhouses is, like I said earlier, you come up a main stair, and that main stair, you can either go straight ahead to one of the apartments, I mean one of the units, and then to the right is another unit, and each of those units is a triplex. So each of the ones has, they're very large units, and each of those units is about 20 One is about 22, 58 square feet and the other one is 24, 82 square feet. So they are very large units. They are three to four bedroom units depending on how you want to kind of break it up. We have the extra study space and some extra areas in the layout itself has like a lounge area on the upper level. And then you have an actually each of these has a bulkhead that goes to the front and rear. So the rear unit that faces the rear will have the rear bulkhead that goes up and has their own private decks. And each of the private decks, I made them exactly the same. So they're 429 square feet for each of the terraces. And the front one has the same. And each of the ones in the front and the rear also have a green roofing area that's in the front of the building. that this way the deck is actually set back the proper amount, the 10 feet, from the edge of the building, especially in the front one. As you can see, on the bottom one, the first floor here, you come around to the back of the building, and in the back of the building we have our locations for our trash and other areas. On the building itself. So if you come there, you'll see that our trash bins are outside, but they're inside They're actually closed in the back of the building underneath and we have like a pie space about six feet high so you can go in there and just Kind of pull the stuff out and the bike storage is in a lockable storage container on the left-hand side So each of the ones will have that ability as well. And like I said earlier we have 11 parking spaces so each of the units will have at least one of the parking spaces and And then we have an extra parking space, which is obviously a handicapped space, which can be allocated in terms of probably just a visitor spot, if we can get away with it. So that's pretty much it. I mean, if we go down here, you'll see what the existing... I'll spin down a little bit further. Here's the, you know, like I already showed you the elevations earlier. We're using some culture stone on the base of this building. And then we're on the side when you're coming in, we're doing some light gray metal panels here. Or we could do cement board panels. We were talking to Sophia about this. She was thinking more of the cement board panels. She was away, so we need to get back in terms of what she wanted me to exactly do. I think the metal panels will last a little longer than the cement board panels, but it's still one of those things up to discussion. So if you tell me whatever way you want to go, we can do that. And then we have some cement board siding that's located in the front of the building and then metal panels in the front of the building as well. And I can go back to the rendering at the end so you can see all this again. If we go down a little bit further, you can see that the rendering, you can see a little bit from the side where the metal panels are in the front of the building and some of the cement board panels wrap the front of the building. Cement board siding wraps the front of the building. And then on the right-hand side was the only place I was thinking, trying to really make it look as presentable as it can because you're driving down the street and that's kind of a blank wall and you're seeing a lot of that. I'll go back to that rendering in the front. So I want to make sure we dress it up as nice as we can. On the other side, though, on the side you don't see that's up against the tree area, it's just cement board siding. That entire side is just cement board siding. If you go down to this level, you'll see that's pretty much just cement board siding with some of the cultured stone there. And you can see there's another staircase on the end that can go wrap around to the back of the building, or you can go around the other side and you can wrap around the building the other way to get to the parking areas. So those are the two kind of options to do. And as you can see here, we left the cement, the... In the rear of the building we have that little cut in to put our garbage and everything. We left that whole section in there as the culture stone to kind of have it blend in and try to be nice and not just be like stuck or anything. We try to make it as nice as we possibly could in the rear of the building. As you can see down a little bit further down, this is what the site actually looks like today. You come here, it's kind of an unattractive building in the back. um... in need of like they said the whole street basically we're redoing the entire street uh... in terms of curbing in terms of the sidewalk pretty much in terms of like almost all the pavements all the way up because basically the only people down there are us uh... i'm pretty sure JCMUA is asking us to put a whole new sewer line in the street uh... all the way down so we put a whole new one from all the way that connects all the way back up to the end of third street where in front of the uh... at the end of the uh... on the other side of the park. As you can see, the school building was kind of like where we kind of emulated a little bit of stuff because the school building was there, so we kind of used that as a motif a little bit for our building that was on the left. And then our building here, this building wasn't completed when I took the pictures, but it has a lot of the stonework and the metalwork in it, so we're trying to stay within the context of the neighborhood. So as you can see, this was the picture of what the rendering kind of looked like before. You come down and you just see it's kind of not so attractive building at the end of the street. So that's why we're trying to make it much nicer. Let's go back and I'll go back to the front rendering and that's pretty much the presentation. If you have any questions for me, that'd be great. All right. Thank you, Mr. Bodnar. Any questions? Anyone? No. Just a couple questions. I guess the first is, right now is there sidewalk connecting this property to the neighborhood underneath the turnpike? There's a little one on one side, so we're probably going to have to do the whole thing. So you guys will be connecting it to the existing neighborhood sidewalk network? That's going to be the requirement, yes, from the... Okay, is that a condition? Has that gone to infrastructure? They haven't gone, but I'm pretty sure they're going to force us into it when we already fix the road. So I'm 900% sure that that will come up. 900? There's no number higher than 100. That's probably something we're going to have to eat and do. Because there is a sidewalk on the left-hand side. If we go back to the pictures, I'll show you what I mean. But it's not very good. Lots of things that come up, and I was like, that's going to be one of them. If you could say, like, please be a picture of the other side. No, I mean, we're aware of the site condition. It's pretty beat up. Yeah, it's pretty beat up. And I think this sidewalk's only on the other side, on the left-hand side. I can't get that picture. So that hasn't been presented to anyone yet from the city? No, I didn't really... know what we're going to do in terms of that. I didn't know if Connor had spoken to somebody. Maybe he had spoken to somebody earlier about it. But I kind of told my client that would be probably a guarantee. We are. We are. The whole thing all the way down? Yeah. Okay. So he's doing it. I figured he was doing it. Our site plan civil drawing showed a connection. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, we have... We have a sidewalk that is up to nine feet wide that connects down to the third street of Marcelli Street intersection and that has been requested for that width of the city. Is that on both sides? On the other side, we do not have the width available to provide a sidewalk given the Turnpike property lines. What's the width that you have to work with? Why don't we put the drawing up on the screen? Yeah, let's do that. Here, I don't think I have mine. You want to grab yours real quick? No, we cut it off. We don't bring it all the way down. Yeah, because you can see, let's say this picture here, that picture there will actually show you. There's not much there. You know what, before we, Mr. Ritter, one second, before we get to Mr. Ritter, back up here, do we want to finish up with Mr. Bodner real quick on architectural? Do you have anything else for? A couple other questions. Sure, sure, go ahead. See, there's nothing wrong. Yeah, let's get architecture over with, and then we'll go back to Sebel. My apologies for jumping between the two. In the rendering where you show the building with the affordable housing units, I In that rendering, I guess clearly the turnpike itself isn't shown. I just wanted to ensure that there would be sufficient light available to the windows facing the turnpike structure. Yeah, there's going to be. We have light on our side of our building. Let me grab where that is. As you can see here, there's going to be actually lights along the entire side of the building, although they're not shown here. They're actually shown on the plans a little bit, but there's actual lights on the side of the building, so you'll see the side of the building. I did talk to Turnpike personally, trying to talk to them again, trying to get them to let me at least kind of do something nice on the side of the building there. Maybe let me put a couple trees there. on the side of the building to make it a little bit nicer and try to fix up their lot. You know what I mean? On both sides of the building. Gotcha. Both this one and on the other side. I guess my other question also related, like is there natural light able to access these windows? Oh, yes. Oh, yeah. We're like 30 feet away from the... Gotcha. From the... That's what I'm saying. I thought this was a roadway when I first started this project almost three years ago. I thought this was a roadway, and I talked to the city if we can just do the improvements for the roadway and be done. You know what I mean? But they told me they don't own it, so then I've been dealing with Turnpike. It's been a lot of fun. Go ahead. So, Council, as I understand it, the Turnpike property is larger, obviously, than the overpass, and a portion of that property is... abuts this property on the ground, right? The turnpike is obviously in the air at this point. That's right. And at grade, it's adjacent directly east to the property. So I think when we go back to the site plan, I think some of the confusion is just how much buffer space between where the turnpike overpass and the turnpike property line is. Okay, we could we can speak to that because we we had a lot of back and forth on that We're we're seeking the turnpike's permission for an easement at one point and it just got too complicated So that's why right I don't know if in the photo on the screen stop moving The one that says looking southwest from 3rd Street. Yeah, I Yeah, I think if we get Conor back up here to show you the site plan, I think that's easier. So I just want to be clear so everyone can kind of keep it in their mind, right? The curb cut, the guardrail, that fence line, I don't know where that runs vertically in relation to that overpass. And if that's the line or not when we look at it on the site plan. Right. Conor can address that now. Okay. Anything else from Mr. Bodner? Anyone? No. Okay. Thank you, sir. Thank you. There you go, Connor. There we go. All right. Yeah, I can speak further to the turnpike in proximity to the proposed project site. Connor, can you just reference the sheet that we're all looking at for the record? Sure. We are looking at the site and landscaping plan, sheet C5 of the preliminary and final minor subdivision and major site plan plan set. Okay. Thank you. So this bold line here is our eastern property line as my cursor is tracing along to where it meets 3rd Street, makes the bend around, and then continues in line along the northern half of the project site. From that line to the turnpike structure itself, so this is the the overhead bridge of the Turnpike. That line lies down here just above the note that says New Jersey Turnpike Newark Bay Extension. So this dashed line is indicating where that bridge overhang is, and that is approximately 53 feet away from the property line. So in that space between those two, as you mentioned, that is New Jersey Turnpike property. There is access and ingress and egress easements over these areas. They remain clear at this time and fenced in. So if we zoom in here we can see some of that fencing. This is all chain link fence that surrounds the base of the turnpike structure for safety and security beneath it. As I move down the page we can see that that nine foot sidewalk that runs along Third Street down to the intersection with Marcelli's. Along the south side of Third Street on the north side of Third Street just beyond the curb line There's about two and a half feet before we meet the first layer of security fencing for the base of the The turnpike structure any further questions? Sure Chairman, if I may? Sure, absolutely. Yeah, just if you could discuss a little bit further why you weren't able to fit a sidewalk in on that side in terms of modifying the curb or... Sure, so we're... We are proposing to maintain the existing width of Third Street through the extension here continuing down. As you can see on the south side of Third Street there's a couple curb cuts that exist today that we are reconstructing with the construction of the sidewalk for the use of the New Jersey Turnpike. On the north side of 3rd Street, we opted to keep the curb line continuous and consistent with the existing curb. So looking to match the existing street width for the length of the street. Approximately what is that street width? I know it's variable, but... Yes, this street width here... I believe, yeah, it's about 30 feet wide. My only concern is really, you know, I understand there's properties and residences on both sides of your property, but on the other side, it's an urban environment. There's the park on the northerly side. So providing, you know, and access via sidewalk is definitely minimally providing accommodation. But I would... think just especially considering the number of properties that are not we're not providing vehicular parking for there's going to be a number of pedestrians walking for access into the rest of the community and might be using the northern side so if there's any way to provide some sort of accommodation even if it means adjusting the street width that might be preferable if I could maybe make a recommendation that we we continue a discussion with the Jersey City Engineering Department to possibly Make the cartway a little less wide and then allocate, you know, two feet, three feet, whatever for a minimum sidewalk area. We're absolutely willing to do that. Great. Great. Thank you. And Mr. Ritter, while you have that plan up, is there any lighting proposed on that sidewalk extension? On the sidewalk extension, we're proposing to maintain the existing utility poles, which I believe is. The one at the intersection of Third Street and Marcelles has an overhead light. And then where's the next one? I don't believe the next one has an overhead light on it. But we do have the overhead utility lines that we're considering through there. We can discuss that further with engineering as well as to what they would be open to within the right-of-way there. Okay. Yeah, I haven't been in. down there in years at night, but it's dark. It's very dark. Okay, Mr. Ritter, while you're up, let's talk stormwater management. There's serious flooding problems down there. Now, as I look through the packet, there's a stormwater calculation that's a spreadsheet. Can you go into stormwater and tell us you know what the improvement is on the the flooding if there is an improvement yeah of course i know you talked about a detention tank Yeah, so -- How big is the tank? Does it comply? Has it been presented to the DEP, the MUA yet? So let me flip here to sheet C7, which is our stormwater management plan for the property to give us a better look at the stormwater facilities. Under the LOP 117.01 building, we have that Kazimplei's detention basin, that detention tank that I mentioned earlier. This tank is detaining and managing runoff that is coming from the building's roof as well as from behind the building. where we have overland flow that's coming down the hillside there. But generally the overland flow is fairly limited before it is otherwise diverted in other directions based on the Conrail and PathTrain infrastructure that exists behind our site. And then on lot 117.03, we have the poorest pavement system. This hatch, this dotted hatch that... encompasses the entirety of the parking area is proposed as porous pavement. So that is going to have layers of stone beneath it to propose detention of stormwater and then that is controlled by an outlet structure to store and let that outlet at a manageable rate to between that and the tank and all of the Green roof that Russ mentioned earlier in his architectural testimony are providing reductions to the peak stormwater runoff from the site and all storm events. Okay. Has the MUA signed off on this plan yet? We've been discussing. Discussing with with the MUA and we have we've had extensive back and forth with them the the plan as shown here Is compliant with the the MUA and the city's? stormwater management ordinance and requirements Okay today council did they provide any comment letter? I They did provide a comment letter. I believe it says we are, it acknowledges it is compliant with the stormwater requirements for the site. So we've had discussions with the MUA about off-site improvements that are not connected to this project, but this in and of itself is compliant, and we've had those meetings, and the MUA has acknowledged that. what about the dep council obviously we're raising i saw flood vents yes yeah this this plan has received a um our flood hazard area individual permit approval from the dep uh we received that approval last last september um and that september 2025 september 2025 correct We received that permit that is reflective of the site as designed here with the tank, with the porous pavement, and with the elevated living spaces and flood vents provided for the crawl space to make everything wet floodproof compliant for a tidally influenced flood hazard area. Okay. Council, you said you could comply with the MUA's report, all of their conditions? That's correct. Okay. And as I go through this, I totally forgot to ask the architect before. Apparently, this is a fully sprinkled project. Okay they're wood construction Okay okay no is there a hydrant anywhere? Oh Yeah, there's an existing hydrant just at the property corner here that is going to remain. Okay, so how does the fire department reach that back corner of those townhomes? There's no other hydrant required, being that that lot on the right side, on the north side, isn't sprinkled and there's no standpipe involved at all? What's our distance from here to there, Conor? I don't know the numbers off my head. MR. Yeah. Because -- MR. I mean, from the back to the report -- Well, to the hydrant, the hydrant. MR. Yeah, to the hydrant there, we're looking -- 135 feet? Yeah, so 200. To the back? The length. Yeah, so that, I mean, that's within reasonable distance to the existing hydrant, but we can... How about to the back corner, though? I think that's within reasonable distance. The back back. Around the corner? Yeah, I mean, that should be... Yeah, that's 190 feet to the back back corner. If you go through the other building. Yeah, are they going to throw the hose over the building? Yeah, if we go around the building... We can provide another one. We do have a water service that is running through the rear yard there, so we can provide a hydrant at the back. We can also coordinate with the fire chief to understand what they would prefer and like here. Well, it's what the code is. It's not a preference issue. Has the fire department provided a review or comment memo on the site plan? They don't get the plans, no. Yeah, that would go to, that goes to the building department. Gotcha. My only other concern associated with the fire hydrant that you mentioned is also in the event that they need a ladder or a rescue, right, you have a 10-foot driveway, which may be minimally accommodating, but certainly very tight for their apparatus to reach that back building, which is not adjacent to a public street. I don't think they'd be going around the building with the truck. No, but that's... You know, there's actually... The easement itself is all gravel. I was hoping to make it something else. So there's actually a weird roadway. I thought there was a roadway in front of us. So as you can see, Connor, from our property line to that weird angled thing, that's their fence. How far do you think that is? Oh, from here down? Yes. Yeah. I mean, that's an additional 20 feet or so. Yeah, it's like 22 feet. But that's fenced in, isn't it? No, it's not fenced in. Oh, it's not fenced in. That is the portion that is outside of the fence. That's what I thought it was. I thought I could build a new road there. Are you acquiring an easement to ensure that it remains gravel in the future, or is that just... Yeah, there's ingress and egress easements along this side of the property here. The hoop. Which piece to you Well, that's I don't see a book and page on there Is there anything to prevent the Turnpike from utilizing their property when they're doing their reconstruction project? Right? I don't know. Mr. Kaplan. That's We were just told that that's an ingress egress Easement, so my question to council is is that yeah It's an easement for the turnpike. The turnpike owns that property. Correct. That is owned by the turnpike. So your property, the subject property, does not have the right to go across the turnpike property to access the site. NO. OKAY. WOW. MR. BONDER, CAN WE GET YOU ON THE MIC WHEN YOU SPEAK? SO CONRAIL ACTUALLY DOES HAVE ONE. COUNCIL. THERE IS AN EASEMENT THAT CONRAIL HAS TO ACCESS THE TRACKS IN THE BACK. SO THAT, IN ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION, THEY WOULD HAVE TO RESPECT THAT RIGHT OF CONRAIL TO HAVE THE ACCESS. ARE YOU CONRAIL? I'M NOT CONRAIL. NO. NO. No. Okay. So, Conrail has a right. Yes, and we're not using that right here. That's why we have the driveway where it is. Well, that's what you're saying, counsel. I was hearing other things. Well, I was just trying to say, you know, if there's an emergency, it probably wouldn't be a bad thing. Mr. Botter, there's no question to you, sir. Sorry. Thank you. Yeah, I mean, backing up, you know, with the hydrant issue, you know, we're going to propose the hydrant, whatever's required, as the chairman said, whatever's required by code, and look into that. And then, I mean, is the question whether a fire truck goes back there? You know, I don't know if they'll go back there or they'll go at the corner, at the dead end there, and bring the truck up there and do what they need to do. It's a very unique layout. It is a unique layout. We had a lot of iterations here, but it works. Okay. Any other questions? Anybody? No. Okay. Thank you. Great. Council, anything else? Just Mr. Bellamy to address the minor request for variances. Sure. That's all right. Yeah. That's right. That's what I get tonight. It's going to be the truth of the whole truth. I'm not going to. Yes, I do. Samuel Bellamy, last name B-E-L-L-A-M-Y. Mr. Bellamy, good evening. Your license is current and good standing? Yes, it is. Okay, thank you. You're qualified. So there are two variances for requesting tonight. One is for the maximum rooftop appurtenance height related to the elevator proposed for the three-story 26-unit building on lot 11701. And the other variance is for front yard setback that's related to the 10-unit townhome buildings on lots 11703. Um, this property is located in the R1 neighborhood housing district. Um, so we are proposing a subdivision and three types of residential uses, uh, one being the 26 unit multifamily building, the other three unit, um, building, and then the 10 unit townhome building. So those are all permitted types of residential uses in the R1 district. Both the 10 unit townhome building and the 3 unit building are permitted densities at 42 units per acre. And then, as noted the 26 unit building is utilizing the affordable housing overlay. And is is complying with the alternative density there by way of the bulk of the building. With respect to the elevator bulkhead, that rises 14 feet. That's where a maximum of 10 feet is permitted for buildings up to 45 feet in height. So this is a pretty common variance we see. We're proposing a multifamily building, and with that, ADA access to the rooftop amenity space um so with the elevator access and overrun that rises 14 feet the bulkhead itself does exceed the minimum setback standards so it's 23 feet from the front facade where 15 feet 2 inches is required and it's also behind the lobby and stair bulkhead so it is further back and kind of centered on the building and will be I think Will have minimal visual impact to other properties Uh, with respect to the front yard setback, I know Mr. Ritter kind of covered where this is proposed. This is for the town home buildings. Uh, it's a unique requirement here in the R1 district where you're required to match the adjacent building. In this case, we kind of have a 3 3 property. configuration at the end of third street here the two adjacent buildings are the two adjacent buildings we're actually proposing that are set back zero feet so that would be the setback we're required to match We're proposing a 5 foot setback for the town home to allow for lawn space in front of the building along with a raised ground floor entry kind of consistent with a town home design. I think that is a is a design alternative we're proposing and the benefits would outweigh the detriments there. by providing a little bit further of a separation and visual interest as you go down Third Street and enter into the kind of the end of Third Street and into this law configuration. Mr. Ritter also covered the design waiver requesting for the lighting. I'll just say that I agree with his testimony and I think the design, the request is reasonable and meets the purpose of the design standards for providing for adequate lighting around the sidewalk areas. Overall, I think these, the variances do meet the C2 criteria, again, where the benefits would outweigh the detriments. the project also advances the purpose purposes in municipal land use law as i mentioned the the uses are all permitted types of residential uses so we are proposing to promote the public health safety and general welfare consistent with purpose a and the densities are in line with what the zoning calls for and the surrounding area consistent with purpose e With respect to the negative criteria, I don't see any substantial detriment to general welfare here. We're taking a current vacant and non-conforming use and really run down property and proposing permitted residential uses consistent with the R1 district zoning. I likewise don't see a substantial impairment to the intended zone plan or zoning ordinance. I think we are providing for a mix of housing types with the multifamily building with affordable housing, the three-unit building with four-bedroom units, and also the townhome building that we're proposing. So with that, I think this project meets both the positive and negative criteria. It is certainly a unique site at the dead end of 3rd Street and a unique project that's being proposed, but I think the variance relief is relatively straightforward. But I'd be happy to answer any questions the Board might have. All right. Thank you, Mr. Bellamy. Anybody? Any questions? Okay. Thank you, sir. Council, that's your presentation? That would conclude our presentation. I just note that I do have our traffic engineer here tonight in the event there's any questions in that regard. I'd also like to add that just speaking with my client, that we would be willing to provide as a condition of approval that the last two, the westernmost townhouses, be sprinklered buildings if that gives the board a little more comfort because of the issues that were raised. I think that helps that tremendously. So we would be willing to do that. And as Mr. Bellamy said, it is a unique site. We understand that. But it is, and we've had a lot of iterations here with planning, a lot of discussions with you know the MUA and planning and the community and you know we think it's a good project there and I don't want to lose sight to there are four affordable units here in downtown that are going to be created one of which would be a three bedroom and these are all the you know very low income low income and moderate income and it's going to be a walking distance of the school and the park which I think it really meets a demand and a need for the city and the community. So with that said, that completes our presentation. All right. Thank you, Council. So at this time, let's open it up for public comment. Is there anyone here from public that wants to comment on this application? Anyone from public? I move to close the public. Second. Okay. Motion is made and seconded. Public is... We're done with public. Sophie, do you have anything you want to add? Yes. In regards to the variances, staff believe that they do not pose a substantial detriment to the public good. Otherwise, this proposal does comply with standards in the zoning district, the P pod, and any other applicable standards. Staff is, however, concerned with JCMUA's comments, the last iteration being published September 11, 2025, where it is stated that during periods of heavy rains and high tide, the site might not be accessible. Consequently, JCMUA has stated that flooding must be mitigated as a condition of approval, and as a result, staff has made a condition of approval in relation to this, which is Listed in the staff memo dated November 21st, 2025. So staff will leave it up to the board to decide, but should approval be granted, staff asks that the applicant agree to the conditions listed in the staff memo with additional two conditions. One, to work with engineering, and I would also like the applicant to work with transportation as well, to place sidewalks on both sides of 3rd Street and the sidewalks Other additional condition to sprinkle the western townhouses on the third lot, 17.03, I believe. The last two. We didn't announce a condition yet for that. That was, council brought that up, and I wanted to discuss that. Okay. Can we get all of them sprinkled, council? I mean, sure. Sure. Yeah, I mean, I wouldn't want that on my conscience that something happened to one of the people in those units and that was just the one they picked. Yes, they would all be sprinkled. And as Sophia mentioned with the MUA, it's in the letter. We understand that. We agree with that. We're We've been working hand in hand with the MUA on this and we'll continue to do so. Okay. Okay, great. So that is a condition? Yes. That entire lot gets sprinkled? All townhouses will be sprinkled will be the condition. Okay, great. I like the sound of that. All right, so I'll entertain a motion. Let's start, Mr. Chair, with case P20250101. So I make a... Motion to approve case P2025-0101 as presented to the board here tonight with the conditions outlaid. Second. Okay, motion is made and seconded for approval. Vice Chair, Dr. Gonzalez. Yeah, I recognize the uniqueness of the, I mean, it's challenging. That area I know well. And I am worried a little bit about the, for the record, of the flooding, but But, you know, the building is nice. I love the stone sort of improvements that you made or the look, I guess I should call it, on it. And so I'm going to vote aye for it. Good luck. Commissioner Genghis. So we're voting on both cases? No, just the first one. I called them. Yeah, that's a good question. Is this a vote on council and both applications? This is on the subdivision. Subdivision. Thank you. Commissioner Genghis. Aye. Commissioner Stamato? Aye. Commissioner Kaplan? Aye. Commissioner Patel? Aye. And Chairman Langston? Aye on subdivision. Motion carries all in favor. Okay, Mr. Chair, I'd like to make a motion at this time to approve case P2025-0102 as presented to the board here tonight with the conditions outlaid. Second. Okay, we have a motion and second for site plan approval. Vice Chair Dr. Gonzalez? Aye. Commissioner Gangadin? Yes, so it's a unique property, unique project, a great improvement for the area as well. Lots of work still needs to be done in coordinating with the MUA and all of that. Love the affordable units, so my vote is aye. Commissioner Stamato? Aye. Commissioner Kaplan. I just wanted to thank the applicant for your making minor modifications and willingness to work with the MUA and others as part of the conditions to see this project through. I recognize it's a unique property and definitely adds benefit, especially the affordable housing units to the community. So with that, thank you and aye. Commissioner Patel. Aye. And Chairman Langston. Aye. I appreciate the conditions, so it's an aye. Thank you. Motion carries all in favor. Okay. Thank you. Before we move on, Cam, let's have a real talk about the time. Chairman, I am going to just make you aware that we do need to do resolutions. We do need to have an executive session to discuss litigation and, of course, the 10 o'clock cutoff due to the security issue. So I don't think we're taking any testimony after 9.30 is what it's looking like. So... you know how many other items do we have here this is a typical 30. yeah so i mean do we want to start at the back of the agenda and just get a realistic idea of what we're getting to tonight so we don't you know people can enjoy their lives chairman it's quarter to nine we're stuck here so you've got 45 minutes so i say we call the next case everybody be guided accordingly we got 45 minutes left okay Biggest I just I don't see us getting too much on the end of this agenda time. I do not I Would love to Say that I'm not the applicant on any of these items though So if any any applicants want to come forward and say that they're comfortable carrying to another date We'll get you on another date Chairman, I got no problem telling you that it's 45 minutes and you're on 14. You're going to get to 14, 15, 16, maybe to 17. You're not getting to 22, which is a lot of people in the room. And I don't think we finished 17, to be honest. But that's just from my experience on the board. Take it for what it is. Okay, council, let's call Mike. Are you okay? Do you need a break at some point too or no? You're good? Okay, so let's call item 14 is case P2025-0113. It's a minor site plan for 208 Thorn Street. All right, good evening. Steven Joseph for the applicant. This is just a minor site plan. This is not a notice case. So we did not notice for it. This is an oversized irregular lot. We're seeking minor site plan approval only. And we're going to have a new three story, three unit building with one ADU unit in the rear. Vart Patel is our architect this evening. Let's get him sworn in. Yes, I do. Mr. Patel, good evening. Your license is current tonight? Yes, it is. Thank you. Thank you. You're qualified. All right. So we are 208 Thorn Street, which is a dead end street, and we are proposing three units in the primary structure with the detached ADU in the back. The site is about 4,200 square feet, 4,217 to be exact, and it's an irregular shape a lot. On the front, it's about 47 feet wide, and towards the back, it's 25 and 100 feet deep. Sorry. I'm going to quickly go to the site plan. The primary structure has a two-car garage on the first floor, a smaller unit in the back, and then two larger units on the upper floors. And the square footage for each unit is ranging from about 860 square feet to 2,100 for some of the upper units. ADU is about 820 square feet. This is the first floor plan, the garage access through Thorn Street, two car tandem parking and the access to the staircase is also from the Thorn Street and then towards the back that's unit number one which is two bedroom one bath unit about 864 square feet. As far as the setbacks are concerned, on both sides, we are providing more than adequate setback. A two-foot is required, but we are providing three-foot six. And then the other side pretty much follows the side yard, which is at an angle. So that's why we have a building in a staff format. And Avar, I just mentioned the rendering issue with the... the trash right so there was a there was a comment about the trash enclosure within the garage space which we added but apparently the Portal still shows this plan so that's what we are presenting at the moment and but the trash just show where the trash is gonna be Yeah, the trash is basically we moved over there the bike parking and the trash is going in and this space here next to the parking spots Thank you Moving on to the second floor, this is a four bedroom, four bath unit and the access would be through the main staircase. Pretty much standard layout, the living and the kitchen area towards the front and then the bedrooms are located towards the side which basically overlooks the slope down towards Tonnelly Avenue. So that's why all the bedrooms are situated along the side yard. Going to the third floor plan is cut off. The third floor plan is also identical to the second floor, similar square footage, four bedroom, four bath. There is a small balcony towards the front, which is just to kind of provide the views towards the Tonnelly Avenue, which is pretty much open along this side. Going to the roof deck, this is a central staircase going to the roof so all three units will have access to the roof deck. The occupied deck is set back from the front and the rear and those would be green roof areas. The HVAC condensers are again screened, located right behind the stair shaft. This is a high bulkhead roof plan and then these are the floor plans for ADU. It's a two-story 18-foot tall structure about 827 square feet living kitchen on the first floor with a small powder room and then upper level will have two bedrooms and a shared bathroom. This is the front of the building. Pretty typical, you know, hardy siding, some vertical, some horizontal, and then two color or two tones. The majority of the facade would be large panels and then, you know, the accent areas will have some vertical and horizontal hardy siding. Pretty much similar treatment for the, oh sorry, and then the first floor will have a brick base and similar treatment for the ADU as well. That's the rear elevation and then the two side elevations showing the... We are providing 3'6" setback on one side and the other side is almost more than 4 feet. So we are able to place the windows on both long facades. So I know we went through that fairly quickly. If there's anything the board would like us to go through again, we're happy to answer those questions. No. Anybody? No? I just want to say, is the trash and recycling correct? Yes, that is correct. Mr. Patel and council, just for the record, Chairman Langston had to recuse himself on this, and so I am going to be acting chair and Commissioner Video will be acting vice chair. Understood. Sorry about that. Thank you. No problem. Any other questions, guys? Yes, sir. Just one question from the transportation memo. It said to please provide testimony about the ability to maneuver cars in and out of the proposed parking spaces given the limited dimensions. I don't know if you could just provide that testimony. Sure. So initially we were thinking about providing a three-car parking situation, you know, and after getting the traffic memo, we're going to go with a two-car tandem parking. Gotcha. And because, you know, there's a wood limitation for the garage door and the curb cut, so, you know, being the facade close proximity to the front property line, we did not have a maneuvering clearances. So we're just going with a two-car tandem parking. Perfect. Thank you. Thank you. Anyone else? No. No. Council? Yep. That concludes our direct testimony. Okay. Perfect. Open to the public. Anyone here from the public to speak on? Come on up. Hi, my name is Cynthia Hajanish. Do I need to be sworn in? Yes, you do. MR. HYDE-YONAS IS AN ATTORNEY, BUT ARE YOU COMMENTING ON THIS APPLICATION? THIS IS MY NEIGHBORHOOD, AND I JUST ACTUALLY HAVE A KIND OF A QUESTION AND A COMMENT. ALL RIGHT. I LIVE IN JERSEY CITY. OKAY. YES, I DO. 25 ZABRISKI STREET. So I just had a question about the accessory dwelling unit. And I guess this is sort of determined by the ownership structure. If it's... I've seen this happen where they're being separately condoed and and the accessory dwelling unit is being sold separately that is not an accessory use it is not a subordinate and incidental to the principal use I think it creates a problem with ownership of the underlying land where it's located and I think it contravenes the intent of of the ordinance. So I just wanted to note that for the record because I think it's a second principal use. It is no longer an accessory use if it's being condoed and sold separately. Thank you. Thank you. Council, you have anything? No, it's a really interesting point and not something we thought about just theoretically, right? But I don't know what the plans are for this in terms of rentals versus condos. That's going to be up to the developer of the property in the future, but I don't think a decision's been made on that. And I'm not sure if the ADU would be part of one of the condos, if it were to be condoed or condoed separately. Okay. Are you going to say something? Oh, I thought you were going to say something. Okay. I'm not going to comment on it is what I was going to say. I think that that's a bigger question. Yeah, I appreciate the point. Is there anyone else from the public? Chair, I see no one from the public. Someone else. Come on up. Hi. Sure. I do. Sure. Oh, sure. Cynthia Scott, S-C-O-T-T. And I live at 63 Sherman Place in Jersey City. And Ms. Scott, you have three minutes. Okay. I just want to mention I agree with Ms. Hadjianis about the ADU. A couple of years ago, we went on walking tours with planning, and it was sold as basically you have a garage or you have a little building in your backyard and you want to have a rental unit for that. You could convert it, and the city was encouraging that. Now all we see, and there'll be another matter on tonight too, where there's an ADU and we have really no idea how that's going to go forward. Is it going to be rental or is it going to be, is it truly going to be an accessory unit or is it going to be a separate condo? And I think this is something that's important. Maybe, I don't know, is it too late in the game? But I don't think it's ever too late to correct a problem. But that's my point. Thank you. Thank you. Okay. Anyone else from the public? Come on up. Yes. Yes, yes, my name is Rennie, R-E-N-N-I. Last name is Stoll, S-T-O-L-L. And I also live in Heights, 21 B Bleaker Street. Ms. Stoll, you have three minutes, okay? Yes, thank you so much. I also have just a follow up question. I live in the Heights and we see a lot of ADUs coming into our neighborhood, especially through new developments and We see a loss of tree canopy because a lot of trees in the backyards are being cut down now. A loss of open space and permeable space. So we would like to understand how stormwater management and just dealing with better conditions are going to be worse and worse over time. what's going to happen with those backyard spaces that are now covered with buildings, with more hard surfaces. Also mitigations through... green roofs, how does it really work? Are they like underground tanks that collect water, then disperse it, or is it just collecting through a rain gutter? So these are kind of my questions because we see them a lot in our neighborhood and we just want to understand they're new. They were just approved by ordinance about three years ago or two years ago, and we're seeing a lot of changes in our neighborhoods, and especially the tree canopy laws and backyard spaces because we're seeing these accessory dwelling units coming all the way to the property lines and backyards. So thank you so much. We just want to understand a little bit better. Thank you. Thank you, Mrs. Stoll. Council. If Art could say a couple words on the stormwater. Sure. I can't speak on the intent of the policy or, you know, what the ordinance is. Only this project. Okay. So let me quickly go to the ADU first. So typically when you're proposing ADU, you know, it requires a two-foot setback on the sides as well as in the back, and then the front is basically backyard of the primary structure. As you can see here, we are actually exceeding the required setbacks. As you can see this side, we are almost 3.6. On the rear, where the pinch point is, we are 2.5. And then given the shape of the lot, we are exceeding all the required setbacks. Again, this... portion of the site is, you know, there's nothing next to it. It's facing the downslope and then, you know, Tonnelly Avenue. And, you know, on the right side we have, let me just quickly go to the front page, which shows There's a unimproved road going across and then there's a small town park here. So again, as far as the ADO is concerned, we are exceeding... what's required in terms of the setback on all three sites. And then the height of the structure is what's required, 18 feet, two stories. So that is also fully compliant. So with regard to the stormwater, we're mitigating that with our coverage and we're not required to do things like stormwater detention basins. Is that correct? Correct, that is correct. And the green roof is a required element which we are providing and the way the green roof works is whether the planting is in terms of trays or with the planting media and then low growth plants. which basically retains the water and if there is an overflow, I mean excessive rain, you know, sudden rain with, you know, a lot of rain, it's not going to hold all that water into the trays, but it will hold the water and gradually, you know, disperse the rainwater liters and it will come down and eventually go to the stormwater system. Thank you, Abart. Thank you. Anyone else from the public? Chair, I see no one more from the public. I would like to close the public portion. Okay, motion made and seconded. We are closed. With the public, Ben? Sure. Staff finds that the proposal advances the purpose of the R1 zone by providing compatible infill and recommends approval provided that the applicant agree to the conditions on the staff memo provided and dated February 10th, 2026. We agree to those conditions and also the added condition that we'll revise where the trash location is and submit those as signature sets. Very well. Thank you. Great. Staff recommends approval. Thank you. Chair, I'd like to make a motion to approve case P2025-0113 as presented to the board with staff recommendations and conditions. Okay. Motion made and seconded. Acting Vice Chair Congadon? Aye. Commissioner Stobano? Aye. Commissioner Kaplan? Aye. Commissioner Patel? Acting Chair Gonzalez? Aye. Motion passes. All in favor? Thank you, guys. Thank you, sir. Thank you. Thank you. Just like that chairman Langston is back It's good timing, right? That was what 14, right? Okay, so let's call item 15 case p2 0 2 5-0 0 6 2 is a minor site plan for 300 3rd Street Good evening council. Good evening chairman commissioners for the record Benjamin wine of prime to Val and Miss Ellie on behalf of the applicant 300 3rd Street NJ LLC The application before you this evening is for minor site plan approval for the property located at block 11102, lot 13, and designated as 300 3rd Street within your relatively new RC3 zone. This is an as-of-right application for a minor site plan. As such, there was no notice required or provided as part of this application. In consultation with planning staff, as we had initially been scheduled, well, initially a while ago, but most recently at the meeting that was cancelled a couple of weeks ago and put on this agenda. The existing site conditions, the property does front as you'll see on 3rd Street and contains an existing two-family residence. We're here seeking approval to construct a new four-story residential building that will consist of four residential units along with related site improvements, things like landscaping, hardscaping, lighting, infrastructure that again we will go through momentarily. As I said before, we are fully conforming. We have no variance or design waiver relief necessitated by this application and we're excited to present it to you here this evening. I do have one witness I intend to call, which is our project architect. So Martin Moreno is going to testify. I'm going to have him sworn in as the project designer. I will have Mr. Lewis also sworn in as the architect of record who can speak, who can confirm after Mr. Moreno is done presenting that everything Mr. Moreno presents is accurate and up to snuff with respect to architectural standards. Council. Is Mr. Marino licensed in New Jersey or not? Not licensed in New Jersey. Okay, so what we can do is qualify Mr. Lewis. Yes. And you know what? Let me have Mr. Lewis come up first. Sure. Not a problem. Mr. Lewis. I'm sorry. Go ahead, Mike. Yes, I do. Jeffrey Lewis, J-E-F-F-R-E-Y-L-E-W-I-S. Mr. Lewis, good evening. Your license is current? Yes, sir. Okay, thank you. You are qualified now. Did Mr. Marino work under your direction? Yes, and he's been the project manager from this project since day one. Okay. And he's actually in the process of taking his exams now, so he's... IT COULD DEFINITELY QUALIFY TO DO THE TESTIMONY. OKAY. BUT NOT IN THE STATE OF NEW JERSEY YET? CORRECT. AND IN FRONT OF THIS BOARD. BUT HE WORKED UNDER YOUR DIRECTION, SO WE'LL HEAR MR. MORENO. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MR. LEWIS, WE'LL CALL YOU BACK UP AT THE END TO CONFIRM THE TESTIMONY THAT MR. MORENO PROVIDES. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. Martin Moreno M M o R E N O mr. Moreno good evening as I understand you worked under the direction of mr. Lewis so go ahead with your presentations are good evening mr. chairman and if it eases you I have presented before the Planning Board and zoning board of Jersey City before that's fine this is legal oh I'm just let me Martin, while you get set up, I'll just ask that once everything shows on the screen, if you can please walk the board through your presentation and anything that you are going to present here this evening that was not submitted previously, we should just have it marked as an exhibit. And I believe, not to preempt it, I believe you do have one exhibit, which is a video. Is that correct? Yes, I do have an animation that I will show towards the end of the presentation, which I will bring up that was not submitted or seen before the board. Okay, excellent. Just identify it when it comes up, please. I will do, sir. Thank you so much. So to reiterate, my name is Martin Moreno speaking on behalf of T. LePorte Architect PC to present our project at 300 3rd Street. As Mr. Wine stated in his opening statement, we are proposing a as of right four story, four unit building. To start off on the cover page of our presentation, we are showing the rendering, the exterior rendering of what we are proposing. The location of the property is pretty unique in its case that to the right, if you're standing in front of the building looking straight on as you see in the rendering, to the right lies a historical zone and to the left does not. As a result, a lot of the buildings and aesthetics and building qualities that are found to the right of this consists of brick materials. So therefore, we try to incorporate a heavy use of brick here in our building and really comply with the residential design standards. So I kind of just wanted to bring that up at the top of the presentation and I'll go into it a little bit more detail as we get to the elevations. So moving on to the next sheet. which is the site plan. So on the left we have the existing site plan as stated before is an existing three-story two-unit building. The middle as you see here where you see my cursor is where we are proposing our property. We are fully compliant in all setbacks and coverages. In regards to the refuse of how it's going to be handled and managed, As Mr. Wine said, the building abuts a public alley in the back of the property, so a lot of the refuse and waste containers will be situated towards the back where tenants or occupants of the buildings can take their trash through the rear of the building, dispose of it, and then they'll themselves be in charge of wheeling it out to the street via the public alleyway. In regards to some other site improvements, we are increasing the coverage of the lot and we are also improving the sidewalk that's located in front of the building as highlighted here. A lot of the improvements for the site came from multiple communications and conversations with both the city and staff. While there is an existing large tree there, as I'll go back to the rendering real quick to showcase it once again, we are proposing another one in compliance with the Jersey City forestry standards. Moving on to the floor plans. So the first floor floor plan is an ADA compliant unit. It is roughly 1,280 square feet. It consists of two bedrooms, two baths, and as I mentioned, fully compliant. Also on the first floor, we have our sprinkler closet, which is located towards the back of the building, and a lot of the utilities and common utilities areas for the building. So some common areas included here on the first floor. The second, third, and fourth floor are very typical. They consist of two bedrooms, two baths, plus den units. All are measured at 1,368 square feet, a very reasonable size for... Actually, I'm sorry, one second. Let me switch real quick. I believe... I'm sorry about that. I don't believe... Here you go. This might be a little better. I noticed that some of the doors and some of the bathroom details are not being shown on this plan. So I'm just going to go back to the other one. Just which be... Yes, here you go. So this might be a little better. So each unit is accessed through this sort of entry foyer here. The entry foyer opens up to a very nice large window. Going back to what I had mentioned at the top of the statement, the quote unquote left portion of the building is for more intensive purposes, kind of like a modern type of building or something a little bit more newer, away from the historical elements I had mentioned before. So we did try to incorporate these much larger windows to allow much more light in, allow a lot of light seeping in and out of the building, and just kind of give it a little bit more of, from an aesthetic standpoint, a little bit more pleasing. So I will highlight that once again as I move on. But again, the second, third, and fourth floor are all typical, consisting of two bedroom, two bath units, plus den. The fourth floor has two roof terraces that are accessible only to the third and fourth floor units. It also has some green roof areas that are in compliance with city requirements. These green roof square footages were once again made made just from conversations with both the city and staff and a lot of the condensers and mechanical areas are located on the roof as suggested by staff. Something that I did forget to mention at the top of my presentation was that the common area on the site plan, which we are proposing a common exterior area towards the back, That is more intended to be used by the first and second floor units, while the roof terrace is meant to be used by and occupied by the third and fourth floor units. Moving on to the elevations. Let me go back real quick. Okay. As mentioned, we are trying, we really let the residential design standards determine and dictate the facade as much as possible. So as you see down here on the some sort of the some of the site photos that we are provided the two on the right hand side are again towards the right of the building if you're looking at it straight on which have heavy brick accents, flat roof lines, these sort of symmetrical window fenestration and and as mentioned, this sort of corners for trim that goes along the top. So we try to keep in line with that and towards the other side of the building, if you're looking at straight on towards the left, you do have these sort of newer buildings that have bump outs, have panelings, have larger windows, and as a result, we incorporated those elements into the left portion of the facade. The rear has balconies applicable to each unit and is just your very standard white vinyl siding as stated there on the materials legend. The black paneling that you see next to the brick is going to be fiber cement siding, fiber cement paneling, I'm sorry, as stated in the material legends. So moving on to the side elevation, we are creating a window well. to allow natural light and air to enter a lot of the bedrooms that are found on the upper stories. And also as you see here is the other access or exit point that can be used from anyone in the building, from any occupants. So as mentioned, any sort of refuse or any waste management can be more likely used back here. People can take their trash out towards the back, towards the waste containers located towards the back of the property, and then use the public alley to wheel it out for collection. Now, something that we did make a change which staff had not seen was we decided to incorporate a sort of a brick return on the facade that is open from -- that is relatively open on one side. The reason for that was because we felt that the white siding was very prominent. It was very -- it made up a lot of that wall. So we decided to incorporate just a little bit of a return to kind of break up that white accent and stay completely complying within our property parameters Correct correct, so we yes, so as mr. Wine said this is so let's market a one sheet a 202 Looks like, is that a 9-10-2025 date on there? Yes, sir. And to go to the animation that I had mentioned. Martin, we'll get this marked as A2, which is going to be a, how long is it? One minute? Yeah, roughly one minute. One minute animation. So again, as I mentioned, we really try to let the residential design standards really determine the front facade and look of the building. We try to, as much as possible, incorporate the front facade into the identity of the existing street. As mentioned, there's a lot of heavy brick accents on one side, which then translate into some more modern elements on the other. So therefore, we try to incorporate that into the facade. just to give again you see the strong brick accent that is found to the right of the building as you pan down the street and then breaking it up into the black paneling accents towards the other side of the street which have much newer building material elements and are actually just newer buildings in general. Also we kept the tree intact along with proposing a new tree in the front And then just to do again what I had mentioned before of just creating these much larger, bigger windows to allow a lot of light coming in and out and just kind of give it like a nice little bit, a nice little modern look to contrast a lot of the traditional elements that are found on the facade. And as you see here, I do have the one with the all-white, if you want to compare and contrast. I think we can keep it at the brick return. Okay, so just to kind of give a little bit more clarity on what we had mentioned, as you see here, this was previously all-white siding. You can kind of tell as you're just from you can sort of visualize it that having all of that as white siding was kind of stuck out a little bit too much. It wasn't aesthetically pleasing as some would say. So we did incorporate that brick return just to kind of help break up that strong white element and just kind of give it a little bit more color and differentiation. And with that, I thank you all for listening to my presentation and that about concludes it. Thank you, Martin. I have nothing further for Mr. Moreno at this point, but Chairman, would you like me to call on Mr. Lewis to confirm the testimony? Sure. Does anybody have any questions for Mr. Moreno? I have one question is the brick facade not go down to the sidewalk on the front. It does not the reason for that is because we are in the flood zone so we do have to build a certain level so the CMU which is below the the break that's going to be a kind of like a stucco finish to cover the CMU block. You can't put the brick in the flood elevation. We can we can I mean it's good Yes It just we just kind of help break it up for CM for try to think ahead of how we're going to build it with CMU and construction materials We try to just kind of give a little bit of a differentiation if I'll go back to the PDF But to your point council, we definitely could if that's something that's preferred by the board I gotta be honest with you after watching and seeing The little video there. I thought it looked, yeah, it looks better, right? I mean, you run out of money at the top, not at the bottom. But yes, we can definitely, we can definitely continue the brick all the way down. Good point. Just one question, Mr. Chairman. Sure, go ahead. At the risk of being called Pat's tomato, about the refuse. I just wanted to understand a little bit. So you're not able to bring the trash to the front curb? You're proposing to go out the alleyway to the side curb? Correct, because we don't have the appropriate setbacks on both sides. So the RC3 zone does not require side yard setbacks. So we did build for the most part on one side to the property line the other we have to be set back about a foot because our neighbor has windows on that side and So there's not enough space for circulation along the sides of the buildings. And so we took advantage of the public alley in the back and we just designated that as the route of travel for waste management. That makes sense. And the intent is for it to go to the curb on... Correct. Is it Coles? What is the cross street there? It's Coles and 3rd, essentially. So this is right at the corner of the building. At the corner of the street, I'm sorry. So they'll have to go over essentially just a little over to the side, and they can place it there for pickup. Gotcha. And is there, I guess this may be a question for Counselor, is this appropriate where a refuse trash will be put on the curb in front of another person's property? Because you're not going to black the alleyway, right? No, we're going to essentially move it. It'll be in the sidewalk area, public area, so to speak. It would be inappropriate. Just for clarity, it's not only trash, it's recycled? Yes, all waste management will be taken to the back and then recirculated towards the side street. Just for the record, that was the real Mr. Stamato. And is the alleyway paved just for it to be rolled out? I believe it's gravel, sir, if I'm not mistaken. I believe it's an existing gravel alleyway. Thank you. Yeah, we actually do have, I do have a photo of it. If I were to go... So, oh actually no, it does look like it's slightly paved. These are forest from last fall. And Martin, these are on the... Yes, these are on there, yes, correct. So yeah, it's... Yeah, it's just an alleyway. I would say it's more gravel more than anything. Thank you. Okay, any other questions? Anyone? No. All right, thank you, Mr. Moreno. You're welcome. And just to be clear, we are showing the stucco at the bottom there, so... I mean, if, but like I said, we have no issue continuing the brick all the way down if that's what's. Yeah, I think we like the brick going all the way down. We're an all brick house, Pat. I'm not the guy to ask. Yeah, I think we would put that as a condition. Sure. No problem. All right. Thank you. I'll just call up Mr. Lewis. And I think my microphone died, but I'll speak loud. Well, you're not going to be on the record online then. You guys can share that. There's a wired one right here. Try that. Hold it like Bob Barker used to. Okay, so what I'd like to do now is call up Mr. Lewis just to confirm that he has reviewed the plans, he's heard the testimony, and in fact everything that has been testified to and the plans that have been presented meet all industry standard and architectural codes, and you have no concern as an architect that the project, as it's been presented, can in fact be constructed according to those codes? I agree with everything that Mr. Wine said. It's a good project and can definitely be built as approved. It didn't sound like your words, Mr. Lewis. But okay, so you're agreeing to Mr. Wine's statement. Okay, thank you. And I agree with the brick going all the way to the ground as someone who also lives in a brick building. Okay. Okay, thank you. So that's your presentation? That would conclude my presentation. Great. Okay. Thank you. Is anybody here from public that wants to comment on this application? Mr. Chair, seeing no public, I move to close the public. Second. Okay, motion is made and seconded. Public is closed. Certainly. Thank you, Chairman. Oh, that is you. Okay. Yes, it is me. Yeah, so staff reviewed this application. I'm actually the second planner to inherit this. Jean-Rue had the initial review. The application is in full conformity with all the standards of the RC3 zone. There are no variance requests. Staff just asks that approval be conditioned. the conditions contained in the staff memo dated 3/6/2026? Yes, as well as the additional condition added by the board now to run the brick all the way down to the base of the facade. All right, with that staff recommends approval. All right, thank you. Mr. Chair, I'd like to make a motion at this time to approve case P2025-0062 as presented to the board tonight with the conditions that we all need. Second. Motion made and seconded for approval. Vice Chair Dr. Gonzalez. I like the project and great presentation, Mr. Moreno. So I'm going to vote aye. Commissioner Gangadin. Yeah, great project. Very good presentation, Mr. Moreno. I like the breakup of the brick all the way to the base. My vote is aye. Commissioner Stamato. I vote aye. Definitely. I love the project. I like the brick going all the way down. And I like the new terminology that we're using now as far as trash and recycling. Thank you. Commissioner Kaplan? Great project. Thank you. Aye. Commissioner Patel? Aye. And Chairman Langston? Aye. Motion carries, all in favor. Thank you, everybody. Thank you. Kim, do we want to call some carries before we open the next application, which I think we probably want to come up, counsel? Good evening, everybody. James McCann from the law firm of Connell Foley. I'm appearing now on items on your agenda 22, 23, 24, Both of the Pulte-Holmes cases. I imagine 10 minutes isn't enough time to get heard on this case, so I'm consenting to and requesting that it be carried to the first available agenda. I'd have to have Benjamin Wine consent to let you go ahead of him. Yeah, I know. So I'm asking to carry so we can go. Cam, do we have an idea on a date? So... The idea at the moment is to put Pulte and 200 Chapel on April 28th. We don't want to put Pulte with 87 Bright on April 14th. So that's the plan at the moment. So April 28th, if that's acceptable. Can we do the 14th? I am available. My engineer is available. My planner has two other hearings on the 28th if we don't get to him. He's got three experts and I've got two. I probably have half an hour. So I don't want to put you on the 14th because we have another matter that is... A hot item, let's call it. In depth. So... So I think what you're saying is if they if you put us on the 14th, there's a chance that we will not get heard. You're not going to get hurt. We will have to come back. It's not going to happen. Yeah. The way the other matter has been going, that's on the 14th. If I get that done, that'll be a great night here in the city. So I think you should come on the 28th. I understand that you have this conflict unless you want to go. You don't want to go into May. I do not want to go into May. My client would like to get listed on the 14th. We will take the risk that we might not get heard, but if the Bright Street case doesn't take up the entire night, maybe we can get heard, or if something else happens, and then maybe we can finish the whole case that night. Chairman, that's up to you. I, you know... But if we don't get heard on the 14th, we get adjourned another month, correct? You'd go to May 12th. So, counsel, here's my problem. And it's the simple fact that We had a room full of people here tonight. I hate to see that. I hate to see that. I do too. And not have those people be heard, along with your client. I don't want to waste people's time. I'm here every other Tuesday-ish. Sometimes I don't make it. But, you know, I hate to have people come down here and expect to hear something and not hear a thing. So, Cam, I don't know where to put him. Okay. So here's the thing. I think we have to keep those two, right? The bright street and this application separated. Just you get your day. They have their day. They're on the 14th. You know, I understand everybody's angst, but I think otherwise we start losing traction all over the place. And then we run into this situation where we have a room full of people. We don't get to it. We're already on, uh, adjournments with preservation of notice. So can you list us on the 14th? Just hear me out. And if for some reason the Bright Street case, you know a couple of days in advance that it's not going to go, we'll all show up. If the Bright Street case is going to be heard on the 14th, I will come on behalf of applicant and the objectors and carry the case to April 28th, if that's okay with you. But again, counsel, you won't have your planner here on the 28th, correct? I won't, but we can do a majority of the case. Everything else. We can do everything else. He's not wrong about that, and I don't have an issue with that as long as everyone's comfortable, but I guess that means you wouldn't get to the public comment portion, right? You wouldn't. True. Not hear from my... Yeah, well, you won't get to public comment on the 28th either. But that's okay, right? I'm okay with getting two hours of testimony and the public listening to the testimony and not getting their chance to make comments yet. I'm okay with that. It could happen anyway, of course. It could happen. I'm struggling with the scheduling and the preparing. And, I mean... Chairman, I hate to see everybody, the applicants, the board, the public, try to prepare for something. Then it doesn't get reached. We're in this situation. I know that perhaps in everybody's world, two weeks makes a difference. In this world, two weeks, this has been going on since... quite some time and I only say that to say that I think if we put it at the top of the agenda on the 28th and hear it and move it it's better than putting it on the 14th in the hope that this other matter that's been going on unfortunately as long longer maybe comes off the rails which if council's suggestion that we get to the top of the agenda on the 28th can be arranged by the secretary We'll take the 28th. And we'll work with... Can I order it? I'm just trying to be helpful here. Can I order it? Yeah. Top of the agenda. Please. 28th. Okay. Hey, Ken! So ordered! Okay. All right. So it's carried to the 28th with preservation of notice. We'll do what we can. And if Mr. Cavalier can't arrange to have his planner here, we'll figure it out. It sounds like his planner is not coming. Well, he's got six weeks to try to rearrange his schedule, so maybe he can. I have six weeks to try to work the planner issue out. We'll be optimistic. That's what we have. Or resolve the issues between you two. Of the planner, at least. We could do that. Okay. Thank you, guys. Thank you. Appreciate your time, as always. Okay. Anybody else want to step up? July. July. 2026 or 2027? Who knows? I have agenda item 25, 569 Palisade Avenue. I spoke with Cameron. I don't know if you're doing some matters before 87 Bright on the 14th. If that's the case, otherwise... May. The first meeting in May. I'll defer to you. So the hope was to do at least an hour, two hours of cases before 87 Bright on April 14th? I'm going to say one hour. One hour? Okay. Because one hour turns into two easily. All right, Chuck, we're going to have to do May then because we've got to get these minors out of the way. Okay, first meeting in May? Yeah, May 12th. All right, thank you, counsel. Thanks. Okay, who else do we have here? Mr. Joseph communicated to me that he wants to carry his miners, item 1966 Wayne Street and item 1868 Wayne Street. Hold on. Kim, let's call him by case number and item. Yes. So that would just be... So item 18 and 19 we're talking about, right? Okay. So case P2025-0008 and P2025-0009 for 68 Wayne and 66 Wayne Street. We're carrying to what date, Cam? So... Since Stephen Joseph is the attorney on Bright Street, we thought that these could get knocked out quick prior to Bright Street on April 14th. That's a good idea. Okay, so we'll carry that to April 14th. Item 30 on the agenda, Mr. Joseph's 565 Communipaw application. They're going to carry with preservation notice to May 12th. I'm sorry, which one is that, Cam? That's 30. It's the last item on the agenda. Okay. May 12th. Okay, so P2024-0099 carried to May 12th, and that's for 565 Communal Park Avenue. And the remaining items are Mr. Wine's. mr wine yes with that uh we'll so case 20 which is p2025-0099 which is address 53 beacon avenue um that one just looking at the time um i'm guessing we're not going to get reached so we would respect we would respectfully request to adjourn that to uh the next available date cam um I think this is a very small one. If we feel like this could be the last one we squeeze in before bright on the 14th, I think that would be three items prior to the Bright Street. Okay. All right. So that'll be for 14. And just to confirm, that one did have notice. So just to confirm that the notice is preserved. Okay. Yes. With preservation of notice for P2025-0099. All right, and these remaining items would go to May 12th, Ben. So the only, I mean, are we going to, is there a chance to hear one now? So we have a security issue. I don't know if I think you're aware of it. Yes. Security leaves at a certain time, so we still have resolutions to do. We still have an executive session to do, and we have to get out of the building before security leaves. Got it. So... I will tell you, case 16 is one witness, and I don't believe there's anyone here from the public. It's a minor site plan, but I will obviously be deferential to you, Chairman. Yeah, we're going to carry, Counsel. Okay, so then I guess it's 16 and 17, which are both my other two cases. Okay, and Cam, are those both going to May 12th? That would be the next date, yes. Okay. Cam, is there not, can I just ask, is there not a later April date? Did I miss that? So the March 24th meeting contains all of the preliminary final majors from the meeting that was snowed out from the blizzard. That agenda has 30 preliminary final majors. So we're going to maybe get through 10. 31's open, council. Want to go 31 on that one? Carry to that. That meeting is going to be overflow from the March 31st. 24th meeting. Understood. I will say I'll be here in two weeks from now for two other cases that are scheduled for that night. So if it's okay with the board, I think there's no harm with, I think the same professional staff. So I think there's no harm to putting these on. If by a miracle things drop off and they get heard, they're minors. That would be great. If not, obviously, you know, we'll have to adjourn further. I, I, I'm sorry. What? I, I zoned out for a second. What date are we talking about? 31st. Okay. Take a shot in two weeks for those two. Or March. Yes. On both of them. Yes, and to the extent, obviously, they don't get reached, then I'm sure we'll be having the same conversation that night. So I think you're going to have people come down for Lake Street, correct? For Lake, most likely. Plainfield, I don't believe should be an issue. Okay, so again, my... problem with putting that the end of March and not hearing it is now we're asking the public to come down again. Understood. Here all night. Understood. Not get hurt. So I want a definite date that I think is reasonable. So let's carry on both to May 12th. Cam, doable? Doable. Including Plainfield as well. Thank you, counsel. Those are 16 and 17, case P2025-0150. for 202 Plainfield Ave and case P2025-0091 for 69 Lake Street, both carried to May 12th with preservation of notice. Okay. Thank you, counsel. All right. Thank you, everybody. Appreciate it. Ms. Hajianis, sorry to bother you. Sorry to interrupt. Are you objecting to anything that you need to talk about? Okay. So May 12th. May 12th? Okay. I'm sorry. Okay, are you representing anybody that we need to? Okay, gotcha. So you'll be back on the 28th. Okay, excellent. I just wanted to make sure you were covered. Thank you. Okay, so let's move on to memorialization of resolutions. Mr. Chair, I'd like to make a motion to memorialize the following. Mr. Stamato. Both Stamatos. Mr. Chair, I'd like to make a motion to approve the memorialize the following resolutions. I have five. Resolution number one of the Planning Board of the City of Jersey City, approving preliminary and final major site plan approval. Case number P2025-0143 submitted by NOC 7, Land Limited Liability Company 480 Washington Boulevard, Block 7302, Lodge 52, 54, and 56. Excuse me, guys. Excuse me. We're trying to read into the record. Resolution number two is resolution of the planning board of the city of Jersey City, applicant Broadway and Giles Developments, LLC for preliminary and final major site plan approved at 115 Giles Avenue, 111 Giles Avenue and 110 Wales Avenue, Jersey City, New Jersey block 9201 lots 1, 2 and 4. Case number on that was P2024-0219. Resolution number three of the Planning Board of the City of Jersey City, applicant Wallabout Realty Holding, LLC, for preliminary and final major site plan approval with a C, deviations 87 Van Horn Street, also known as 87 and 97 Van Horn Street, block 199-01.01, formerly known as block 199-01, lots one, two, and three. Thank you. Formally known lots 2 through 7 and 42 through 44. Jersey City, New Jersey case number P2025-0039. Resolution number 4, resolution of the planning board of the city of Jersey City case number P2025-0134 for a minor side plan applicant is 391 Fairmont, New Jersey. Fairmount Avenue, LLC address is 39 Fairmount Avenue, Jersey City, New Jersey, block 16301, lot 34. And the fifth resolution of the City of Jersey City Planning Board is case number P2025-0086. Applicant is Westside Avenue Development, LLC, address at 176 Westside Avenue, Jersey City, block 16301. New Jersey Block 23802, Not 1.01, decided on Tuesday, March 10, 2026, memorialized on March 10, 2026, application for a preliminary and final major site plan amendment. That's the final resolution. Second. We have a motion and a second. Cam, can we have a roll call, please? Vice Chair Dr. Gonzalez? Aye. Commissioner Gungan? Aye. Commissioner Stamato? Aye. Commissioner Kaplan? Is it appropriate for me to abstain on this item since I wasn't here perfectly? I'll abstain on these. Thank you. Commissioner Patel and Chairman Langston? Aye. Motion carries. Five in favor, one abstention. All right. Thank you. You want an executive session? Okay, could we have a motion to enter executive session?