This transcript features **Mayor Jim Michalski**, City Administrator **Ellissa Owens**, City Superintendent **Phil Entner**, and members of the City Council. [0:07] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: We will not be broadcasting live because of equipment problems but it will be uh put on on the net i guess when we'll get it in the next couple days so yeah the late broadcast so i'll call this meeting to order this is a regular meeting Moose Lake City Council for wednesday february 9 2022 and we'll start with the pledge of allegiance please i pledge allegiance to the flag of the united states of america and to the republic for which it stands one nation under god indivisible with liberty and justice for all [0:52] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: i'd like to thank our guests who are here tonight thank you this afternoon i should say the next item is the approval of agenda do we have any addictions or changes to the agenda hearing none do we have a motion to approve the agenda or we'll have a second all in favor say aye aye opposed motion carried going on to the consent agenda two-way is in minutes we have the the organizational city council meeting for january 12 2022 the regular city council meeting for [1:38] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: january 2022 any discussion or questions on the minutes post that a second a second all in favor say aye aye opposed motion carried moving on to 2b financial reports we have the city accounts payable for january 2022 city financial statements for january 2022 number three the liquor store profit loss statement january 2022 do you have any questions or comments on a financial report [2:25] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: and now do i have a motion to accept the financial reports so move that a second all in favor say aye i suppose motion carried just a quick question that have we heard when our audit will start **Ellissa Owens**: the audit will take place uh the last week of march **Mayor Jim Michalski**: okay thank you moving on to number three public comment this time is reserved for comments from the public on matters not listed on the agenda if you have any please keep them to three minutes looks like we have none tonight thank [3:11] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: you moving on to number four departmental reports for a police chief department report for january 2022 **Police Chief**: you members of the council i don't have a lot to report tonight but for the totals for january we had 146 calls for service 37 of those were extra patrol 15 traffic stops 29 community engagements eight assists to other agencies uh 53 calls for service and four medicals i know this is going to air here at a later date it seems to go around every year but there's another you know dot or mndot scam going around so if people are getting those in the mail to pay or something's going to happen [3:56] **Police Chief**: to just toss them because every year comes out and mind that's not going to be calling you to make sure your stuff is up to date so just so they know that and then again once on the snow removal we're having a couple of businesses and stuff along the sidewalks that aren't making sure those are getting shoveled so um trying to take care of that um at the last meeting we discussed the investigator uh promotional thing um officer couture has accepted that position so that's gone into effect and we're just working on some training for him now i'm getting into a few things but he's been pretty busy already and our new squad is now in service we got that back so you've probably seen that going around a little bit seemed to be working out well the build went pretty smooth how much else uh go on everything [4:44] **Police Chief**: seems to be kind of stable at the moment so hopefully continues **Mayor Jim Michalski**: 146 that's a lot of calls **Police Chief**: yeah and you know come to go's and streaks and stuff so let's hope it's uh i think we have a little bit more in the summer **Council Member Walter Lower III**: counselor uh yeah i was wondering what uh old school how often does that get patrolled and is there if there's been any issues down there since we had the trouble of last year **Police Chief**: no it's funny bring it up because we just met with him was it yesterday yesterday yeah i think yes yesterday because you know we go through it and around it you know we have keys to get in the building i was just in there a couple weeks ago going through it doesn't look like anything new you know the snow now makes it easy for us to see if anybody's been up to the building we did have an issue of somebody trying [5:29] **Police Chief**: to get in the building adjacent to it which is a city owned building but they didn't get in right now with the snow depending if we can get around the building we continue to go through there and check but we can get somewhat close on each side but right now there's been no new activity or break-ins or we haven't received any reports on it **Council Member Walter Lower III**: okay thank you **Council Member**: yep yes sir i like new color and stuff and the way they painted on a new squad i think it looks nice **Police Chief**: nice that's reflective so let's be like oh it's a different type of paint scheme and stuff and i think it adds to the color and stuff to it so it's not something different than the new style so [6:14] **Police Chief**: thanks appreciate it **Mayor Jim Michalski**: yeah oh great thank you yeah thank you thank you on to the crew hello thank you public works superintendent department report for january 2022 **Phil Entner**: mr members of the council um yeah like the weather outside right it's all good right it's nice for a change um with the lack of snow um black ish doesn't seem like there was a lot here in the winter not so much weight right now we've been able to focus on getting a lot of other things done we'll start in the water department uh water just distributed 4.5 million gallons drinking water in a month january frost steps are deep we do have some [7:01] **Phil Entner**: water services starting to freeze um we do have a we have five services currently running right now to prevent the freezing um that's all basically followed right down our frozen water and sewer line policy that we've all you've all heard me talk about yak about for a long time now the more we utilize that tool especially as a community and a water purveyor it's working really well and there's the knowledge is getting out there people are starting to get the rhythm of it every winter my phone starts blowing up it's actually a good thing um it's preventing a lot of uh extra expense for a lot of people and it's keeping our costs down to operating so it's actually very good um but yeah one once again one more reminder frost after like 48 inches in your own right now so please refer to that policy if you have any [7:47] **Phil Entner**: questions contact city hall i'll get you in touch with us contact me if you get a hold of me directly i'll gladly walk anyone through that just it helps me out just as much as it helps anyone who knows so can i answer questions **Mayor Jim Michalski**: absolutely uh we haven't had any problems over at where was it stevenson's where were you **Phil Entner**: not a single one yeah not uh um i had this on your last month too we're looking into a valve exercising program the equipment costs i mentioned last month are they're pretty high to get this equipment purchased uh there is some some motion grants out there that are 50 50 matching to bring down some of the costs on this equipment um i'm going to be looking into them here this month the union [8:33] **Phil Entner**: march something like that just to kind of see if it's something we're going to do um got us through the roof we're obviously not going to do it we're going to at least look into it and see if we can try to do that sewer department collected uh the collection system collected 9.8 million gallons of waste water month january that number's a little bit lower than last month those numbers are looking really good for our uh from our lighting projects and results those numbers are still looking really good i can't give you any concrete numbers nor do i want to i would rather have our engineers give you those numbers um but we're making progress and we're doing really good so it's we got to just keep that ball rolling um the grinder that you guys approved last month that's ordered uh with cobin and everything there's a it's backlogged quite a ways i think it's end of march [9:20] **Phil Entner**: i'm trying to it gets in on time i'm trying to schedule that with our yearly cleaning they could install right at one shot one mobilization charge keep everything a little cheaper for us so there'll be more to come on that march street department uh obviously there's no nice removal you've seen that going on um we've been battling a couple with issues in the shop in and out guys in and out but we're we're keeping things rolling so everybody's always good but it's it's a struggle everywhere so even in the public workshop struggle there too with that we've been doing some projects in the shop especially with colder weather um not as much snow and i used to remove um one was a snow pusher we ended up actually building one we had an old one-way plow that was on a truck that lit on fire that maybe ted might remember years ago [10:06] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: way before i was i was still in high school when that happened so a while ago yeah **Phil Entner**: um that actually that old plow was actually laying in the weeds up at the shop and we found it we found it i found it three years ago we adapted it to fit on the old loader we sold the loader we got the new loader we adapted it to fit on the new loader and then we built a pusher out of it and if you look at those pushes online they're upwards of ten to twelve and i thought you know we've got some scrap metal laying around we're gonna try this right and we actually cleaned elm and fourth street and it was about half the time with this piece of equipment and it's it's not great i didn't it's not supposed to be but it's it's cutting it's kind of time down big time so it'll be interesting to see hopefully it holds together but it's so far it's working pretty good um [10:52] **Phil Entner**: we also modified our truck loading chute for the snowblower so that now looks a lot like what mndot has that literally shoots the snow up in here and directs it right down into the box of the trucks that was another one of the things we were messing around with and then the part requested a calcium chloride sprayer **Ellissa Owens**: which was sounded like a bigger deal at the time but we actually were able just to put it together quite quickly and then afternoon in the shop and it was it's gonna work slick very slick i think we paid almost two thousand bucks to chlorinate the campground last year and we'll do ourselves now for 150 200 bucks and we'll do the whole thing so so the campground is making requests for additional dust control so um phil and [11:40] **Ellissa Owens**: his team took it upon themselves to try and build us one and successfully did so and i did include pictures of all the things he's mentioned within the packet so our our idea with this is that you know we can save money and then in addition we'll be able to do more dust control to actually meet the needs of the campground um at a reduced cost so pretty selling that's what we're hoping for **Mayor Jim Michalski**: yeah but so far everything's working good is is that the picture in this uh package here of the pickup truck on the back **Ellissa Owens**: yeah correct that is the spray bar **Phil Entner**: page 33 i got here in my ipad right oh yeah that's right i forgot we included these like i chose i'm sorry oh [12:26] **Phil Entner**: no that's sorry the pusher is actually yeah there would be 31 and then i think the snow blowers in her tube somewhere maybe she shouldn't put that in there that's in there yeah so that's next **Council Member**: would there be what kind of chemicals would you be using **Phil Entner**: just calcium chloride and water **Council Member**: okay i know other people that have built these and they work to work for them yeah yeah especially for what we paid last year and what we got i thought it was a little ridiculous **Mayor Jim Michalski**: do you think we could use that at the start of the society **Phil Entner**: absolutely especially when we're talking like literally a tenth of the cost that's yeah we'll take it so um if there's any questions no questions we're good i'm just going to jump right to the engineering if that's okay [13:11] **Phil Entner**: and i think Ellissa and i both are going to take this one right **Ellissa Owens**: correct are you starting am i starting go ahead **Phil Entner**: 73 project trail uh obviously on hold however i did just receive a request about a pedestrian crossing signed up by the schools and flashing lights i think you and me and i just acted tyler too we need to look into that um especially now since the project's still open something we need to look at but that's super new it's not even in the notes but there will be more on that to come uh the welsh 3-4 replacement project it's it's completed we're still working out some chemical feed issues you have yet to see the last payout because it's not completed and i'm not happy to be honest with you so [13:57] **Phil Entner**: and the contractor's not happy with me and that's fine but we need to do this to do our new due diligence to the city and we paid a lot of money for that it needs to be it needs to be top notch before we pay him that's my opinion um we did get some bad news from the minnesota department of health saying we do need to upgrade our hub protection plan and what that is is it is i wish it was a one-page document but it's not it's a very long document that our engineers have to help us with doing since we moved our wells 300 feet they think we need to do a new welded protection plan and we have to listen to them so we will be doing that but we were really hoping we could modify ours to meet our new our new needs and [14:42] **Phil Entner**: the department of health thinks that won't work so we're gonna be working on that uh the phase two trail you wanna touch on that one **Ellissa Owens**: sure thing so um we have been awarded a three hundred thousand dollar grant um this spring our engineers are working on applying for additional grants we've been meeting with them to discuss the different route options that we could take so we've been working on that and trying to find options that can be accomplished at a lesser cost when we're weighing them between one another so looking at being fiscally responsible when we choose our role for that we did have a meeting with doc a joint meeting and we discuss the route options with them just because [15:28] **Ellissa Owens**: they're it will be around or near their facility at multiple points as we close the loop and that went really well we didn't get a go ahead from them as far as whatever route we want to select they will support um and so that was really positive news four street reconstruction project um that keeps coming up i think we had a 60 meeting well we kind of wrapped it into our monthly meeting but um those plans are coming along they look really good um still working out some details but it looks like it's going to be that's going to be a nice project ini reduction plan **Phil Entner**: i'm sorry my bad forget that uh it's the lining project that [16:14] **Phil Entner**: just engineering estimates but that's looking like it's gonna get us almost all the way up to the bank that one this this here's one shot that's going to be huge so that's that's going to be a wonderful thing um the campground expansion you wanna touch on that **Ellissa Owens**: sure thing so um we've been meeting with the engineers and developing concept drawings um so they had a couple of different options for us as far as expansion layout so how many sites can we get in here what does a road look like what is is there a need for um moving the office or creating a separate entrance things of that nature so what the plan is right now is they've kind of asked us to dream big so what would you like to see ultimately [16:59] **Ellissa Owens**: and with that then we'll be applying for grants in the next couple of months some of the grants will actually take up to a year to hear back from they're applying for two grants that have no match that they've been successful with in other areas as far as fully funding campground projects so we're excited about that but you don't want to get the cart before the horse we've got to get there so they're working on concept drawings and things like that for us we will share once we kind of get some more information but essentially we'll put everything together that would be our ideal head up for the grants and then depending upon what we get awarded we would then scale back the project if need be or make amendments to make sure that it's [17:44] **Ellissa Owens**: um something thank you for the entrance we may not be using the entrance that we have right now we may end up going off of uh seven we're looking at that option and we're looking at new bathroom facilities and because you have to have a not necessarily showers but bathroom facilities within a certain number of feet from the campground area so we're looking at all of that and also the old bath house so that can be either torn out or remodeled for a different use which was kind of interesting **Phil Entner**: yeah so we don't know we'll look at the [18:30] **Phil Entner**: possibilities there the rest of things on here are just placeholder stuff that that are on our monthly agendas just to kind of hold that place so we don't forget there's a few grant opportunities that i'll be putting in for for some stuff for the wastewater site just small ones but they have deadlines i think in march and april that kind of stuff so um there's a lot in this document there's a lot that we talk about in two hours if anyone has questions about any of this or wants more information just please reach out to me i'll be happy to get you whatever you need or while i'm any here steve we're constantly looking at mighty duck stuff too for arena because [19:16] **Phil Entner**: you know those compressors are getting old we've got three of them and they're like about 150 000 a piece so we're keeping our eye open for compressors and uh maybe this will touch on that later with other things that'll come up thank you very much **Mayor Jim Michalski**: please pass it thank you on to the crew yep that brings us to uh 40 chamber of commerce updates **Ellissa Owens**: yeah the um chamber of com commerce had their monthly meeting today um in addition to their uh monthly meeting they also had a strategic planning meeting which is something that's pretty exciting for the community so um [20:02] **Ellissa Owens**: a couple of things they touched on where they just had a really successful ice bocce event this last weekend it went really well they didn't have all the numbers uh defined yet but um overall the event has grown and it's a big scenario 35 or 36 teams **Mayor Jim Michalski**: correct quite a few people that are champions and it's bringing teams from the cities in northern minnesota and um so just really a great event that will they're hoping to continue to grow so that was exciting **Ellissa Owens**: their strategic planning meeting is just kind of um defining how moving forward um how they want to be organized and what they want to focus on and as they continue to grow [20:48] **Ellissa Owens**: you know how they can better serve their their members and um different ways that they can impact the community and how they're structured so they brought in somebody from the minnesota chamber of commerce chapter uh to kind of guide them through this process um and i i think they'll be sharing their results so we will be certain to share what we can as well as they move forward but today was uh really successful **Mayor Jim Michalski**: yeah billy was voted in as the new chamber president that was a reorganizational today also and who is the vice chair **Ellissa Owens**: sean **Mayor Jim Michalski**: sean that's the vice and they're president to look into their other activities in the summer already [21:34] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: they're doing well moving on to previously discussed business 5a city moose lake ordinance number 166 certificate of inflow and infiltration ini compliance **Ellissa Owens**: yes so this is the second month we've had the ordinance number 166 in the agenda packet so looking for any questions input feedback um and or this would be the second reading and the final would come next month for approval so **Mayor Jim Michalski**: any questions or discussion if you don't have any tonight please [22:19] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: bring them up to the city office before now next month very numb then we'll move on to 5b city moose lake oregon's number 167 tobacco ordinance **Ellissa Owens**: we brought that out last month correct so this would be the second reading for this one as well um this month i did not include carlton county's ordinance in there um but if anybody has any questions i can most certainly provide that again i also took the comments off the side of this ordinance so it's a clean copy um just wanted to have that in their last month for questions or review opportunities so um once again a second reading and if you [23:06] **Ellissa Owens**: have any comments feedback or questions feel free to let us know **Mayor Jim Michalski**: this ordinance is being passed by pretty much everyone in the county [23:20] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: so no questions moving on to 5c cd super superintendent job description **Ellissa Owens**: yes that's on page 15 so um following last month's meeting when this was discussed ryan and i sat down with phil just to get a good idea of what the previous public works job description look like in comparison to what he actually does in addition we obtained some city superintendent job descriptions which surprisingly aligned very closely to our public works and so in kind of reviewing all the different input pieces into this we came up with a a draft copy the draft copy went in front of the personnel committee and then was modified this is our fourth um fourth and final copy of the job [24:24] **Ellissa Owens**: description so lots of time and energy has gone into making sure that this we get this one right if you look on page 68 that is where the it shows the safety coordinator office responsibilities under the minnesota osha aware act that i had mentioned at the last council meeting you can see what the responsibilities that are expected in the minnesota osha aware act that was brought to our attention that we did not have near moose lake so [25:12] **Ellissa Owens**: so with that i guess we're looking for discussion and motion um to approve the city superintendent position under this job description which we needed to update we have added a lot of things to it but did not change the job description **Mayor Jim Michalski**: and i didn't i didn't think the superintendent the reflection of uh street departments who lieutenant to me did not fit under all the duties that we had under that's why i said yes to the city superintendent of the title [25:58] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: it's really the same title we're just taking in the street department office **Ellissa Owens**: and i don't think the job um description had even been updated since i spencer probably no i have not gone there the highlighted portions are the portions of um or the line items that we either reworked or added to just make sure that we had an accurate depiction of what we really need and ultimately this protects the city in that we have identified what we need from this role and it's up to date so moving forward we will have an all-encompassing um accurate description of of what's being [26:43] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: done it wasn't fitting our insurance of matching our insurance either which was brought to our attention by bond which is interesting **Council Member Douglas Juntunen**: say under 19 would you just remove the 121 **Ellissa Owens**: oh yes thank you [27:09] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: so in discussion by the council i should say if what we need to do once this is approved is the personnel committee needs to meet and discuss this position and come back to the council on recommendations on the position and we're asking to be a salary position not an hourly in other words there's no overtime which is a big change in this position **Ellissa Owens**: once we have the job description and the position identified like ted said then we [27:55] **Ellissa Owens**: will have to do some more work as far as recommendations for wage and just kind of outlining outlining what the salary position looks like in reference to the to the job itself so this was step one **Mayor Jim Michalski**: plus i think in that email i said talk to everybody who had the rough estimate of savings so far with all that all these job duties going under the street department uh the real shipment one was sixty thousand dollars and then another amount came up that that i had forgotten about and that is every year we were contracting with the county it's 25 000 a year for them to come twice [28:41] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: a summer and fill potholes and we we don't do that anymore they're doing it i know you would have to figure out how much material you use that would be subtracted from the 25 000. but i figure it's somewhere around 15 000 or so that we're saving on for our street department to do it i know we had to buy equipment too but that equipment will last over a number of years so it's kind of hard to judge some of those things that we have uh all rolled into it because we're doing a job so the the uh the maintenance part seen this contract but that materials are mixed in with it on a lot of them so that brings us to roughly easy 75 000 [29:27] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: without going into in depth of other things which i think would be more probably around 90 overall with the park stuff that we don't contract anymore **Ellissa Owens**: in addition we have uh discussed doing a local um an area wage study for this type of position or positions in other industries that are relevant so we'll have all that information to present with um with you know a recommendation moving forward for that aspect as well just to help give information and hope you help you guys make a decision on the next step [30:16] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: so you're looking for comment and motion **Council Member Douglas Juntunen**: yeah i would just say that every step of the way um from what i've seen phil in his department and him as the leader has stepped up and taken on more and more responsibilities without being asked and has always had the city of moose lake and citizens at the forefront of the discussion is how can we save money how can we be more efficient and i think this position is is overdue and this is something that's been earned not given and i'm i'm grateful so i'm all for this **Mayor Jim Michalski**: any other comments questions you have a motion [31:02] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: to accept this position description for city superintendent i'll make it that second one second all in favor say aye aye opposed vote wolfy terry thank you so we'll have to set up personnel committee meeting chris and start the next process moving on to number six new business 6a league of minnesota cities liability coverage waiver form **Ellissa Owens**: this is an annual um event for us for our liability coverage so uh just looking for [31:48] **Ellissa Owens**: a motion um that we um do not waive the monetary limit **Mayor Jim Michalski**: right i'll make that motion any questions all in favor say aye all right oppose motion carried 6b first national bank corporate authorization resolution **Ellissa Owens**: so with the changes in um city personnel and staffing we needed to update our corporate authorization resolution with our bank first national bank and so this document is redefining the city's agents listed on it and we [32:34] **Ellissa Owens**: need to provide meeting minutes and approval of the new corporate authorization resolution to the bank **Mayor Jim Michalski**: and all those members need to do a signature correct any questions from the council i have a motion sober all in favor say aye aye opposed motion carried under 6c supplemental letter agreement short elliott hendrickson incorporated 2022 sewer linings project **Ellissa Owens**: so we've seen these uh previously for other projects so what this is is [33:20] **Ellissa Owens**: essentially just um solidifying the 2022 silver lining project as a city project this is more of a piece that the engineers need on on their on their side in order to activate a project for us but um we do need approval of it on our end as well there was a map um it did not print correctly uh so i can most certainly provide one via email to the counselors and will do so but it did define the uh identified portion of the 2022 lining project that will take place and as phil mentioned previously it does get us all the way to the end of our the first section that was identified so [34:07] **Ellissa Owens**: with increasing the um project amount from one hundred thousand to three hundred thousand we are able to carry our um the distance throughout the end of the first identified stretch so that is the oldest section section that we have **Mayor Jim Michalski**: and those are just estimates correct **Phil Entner**: right correct **Mayor Jim Michalski**: does that that starts at like first street is it by **Phil Entner**: what this one will start right behind the dentist across from cages **Mayor Jim Michalski**: which is where we left off that was my question **Phil Entner**: it's going to go to the bank that's what the estimates are telling us [34:54] **Phil Entner**: it'll go i would say to be conservative i'd say third street for sure which is one shot back from from there so definitely a large chunk [35:09] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: so we need to um any other questions i should say question discussion that promotion have a second second all in favor say aye all right the close motion period [35:37] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: that's 6d on the second page of agenda this is lou's second edition covenants and restrictions **Ellissa Owens**: i'll provide a little bit of a background the planning commission received a request from thompson heritage homes for a variance to the covenants that would that define two lots in particular as single family lots within the louis second edition as this process was carrying on we had just consulted with our attorneys regarding the matter and provided them with the covenants and restrictions that oversee the louis second edition [36:23] **Ellissa Owens**: and define what lots can be what as far as single-family dwellings versus multi-family dwellings things of that nature so throughout this process we were just made aware from our attorneys that the city does not have the authority to grant a variance and so our attorneys are saying there's the potential for a waiver and release process to take place they are asking for some additional time and resources to study some previous cases and case law in order to determine whether or not a waiver release could be established and if it's established what it looks like what parties are involved and what would need to take place in order [37:09] **Ellissa Owens**: to change these identified lots from single family to multi-family use that would then allow the developer to build duplexes on the two identified lots within the development that they are looking to build at this time because it would cost there be an additional cost and crew from attorneys as far as resources i wanted to bring it to your attention and see you know just get feedback and see if there's any interest in us pursuing this in order to determine whether or not we can provides some type of waiver and release to allow building duplexes on these lots or [37:55] **Ellissa Owens**: whether or not we'd like to cease activity on it **Mayor Jim Michalski**: private council for discussion i think we're in a close to close to 15 years on a little second edition in that development area which lots are they **Ellissa Owens**: yeah it's lot four four and five and one is on mills ark circle and one is on um lane horst so the two corner lots on each of the cul-de-sacs **Council Member**: do you have an estimate on the cost [38:42] **Ellissa Owens**: she was not able to provide me one um they just don't know how much digging they're gonna have to do or how how much of their resources that they would have to continue to put into it um they their interpretation of the covenants was that it was designed to protect the property owners within the development versus giving the authority to the city to dictate what happens within the development so regardless of what was potentially intended when the covenants was developed that is their interpretation of how it is worded at this time so i do not have an estimate you know if there was a certain threshold that the council was comfortable with i [39:27] **Ellissa Owens**: i could make sure that we didn't exceed that um i can ask for an additional estimate and bring it back to council i just wanted to be transparent with where we were at and what the proceedings were with the attorneys at this time **Mayor Jim Michalski**: i think all the dot the lots excuse me that were designated for duplexes have been purchased and there's two of them that were purchased there is no building plan on them right now but they're owned by another individual **Ellissa Owens**: but the developer was present at the meeting yeah **Mayor Jim Michalski**: but the developer said that that was not the intent that was just that the city wanted more assurance when they went into this originally and that it could have been any of the lots [40:14] **Ellissa Owens**: so correct and that was communicated to the city attorneys um and so they are aware of that because the developer is willing to participate in this process it's possible that it could be the waiver and release process could be very short and condensed we just don't know yet um **Council Member Douglas Juntunen**: do we know roughly what the uh tax would be the city portions tax and beyond those when they are built **Phil Entner**: based on other places that are similar sizes i don't but i fulfilled [41:04] **Phil Entner**: i'm not sure what our tax is going to be now that it's a finished product you know we haven't gotten that new not that far yet **Council Member Douglas Juntunen**: okay to me once once they're on the tax rolls and that that's the goal we've waited 15 years i don't know what the comfort level is for the rest of the city councillors but i would be willing to spend up to a few thousand dollars because we'd get that money back within a couple years anyhow so i i would like to see us move forward and help any way we can because we want more houses [41:42] **Council Member Douglas Juntunen**: you know forever and that it would really be nice to see something built on them and start to get some facts out of it so i would support spending some money to see like you said it could be a short process if it looks like it's going to be a longer in depth more attorneys maybe we'll have to um revisit the idea but i think to start out and just see it could be an easy process to get it going **Council Member Kris Huso**: i'd agree with what my fellow counselors have said they're curious if there's any homeowners up there right now that are [42:29] **Council Member Kris Huso**: living there that are have complaints in our dead set against this **Ellissa Owens**: there are um which is what um brought us to the point of making sure our teams were crossed and eyes were dotted uh from a legal standpoint so um that is what has brought us to this point **Mayor Jim Michalski**: we did have we had i think we had uh three people at the meeting that were residents two residents there's one important element here that was resident up there and we also had another one on is it millsark [43:18] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: is the farthest one west correct i'm trying to think um well joe also joel and lee which are on waters so we had two residents one on each of the coldness acts that were against it the issues brought up was drainage uh also the safety issue possibly having driveways coming out and uh decreased home values correct [43:50] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: so everybody's aware of all the discussions that we're not and excuse me let's just get another we had a responsibility to the applicants to make sure that we were continuing to move forward with their request in a timely fashion so we had proceeded through planning commission meetings and the planning commission throughout the first meeting was had consensus to make the recommendation to council to allow this to allow the variance and that was prior to knowing what our attorneys were saying so the just to [44:35] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: provide additional insight of the proceedings that have already taken place the planning commission was in support of this process as well due diligence though had to make sure that what what voters would say on that and they may find out through the next process that it is there is not a precedence we don't know so just so you wear that and we're going to all the different possibilities of it was there a motion and i'm sorry no **Council Member Douglas Juntunen**: i said i would be in favor of up to a few thousand dollars but i didn't know what all the other counselors were thinking so okay i didn't want to make a motion do we just need consensus to proceed **Mayor Jim Michalski**: yeah i'd be willing to spend money we [45:22] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: would do consensus on this and with the dollar amount yeah i would say a few thousand dollars and then if you could come back and say well this is not going to work or that's going to be a lot more expense than it's going to be worth then i guess we'll have to regroup **Council Member Kris Huso**: i would support that **Mayor Jim Michalski**: okay you said also yes and if you want to look at the minutes of the of the residents that were against it please come up to the office it's there we can find out who they are where they live you can talk to whatever you need to do for your own sake for discussion and as we go on into the next month [46:09] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: so it's all available public it's on public well thank you very much moving on to 6e downtown district housing development discussion **Ellissa Owens**: um so there was a request made to the planning commission by scott williams and his property is 85 arrowhead lane but the property is currently zone c2 so it allows for within the principal permitted uses it allows for a commercial retail space with [46:57] **Ellissa Owens**: apartments housing above so a request came to the planning commission scott does not have a desire to build a two-story building so he was asking for a variance that would allow for some type of commercial establishment on the front side facing arrowhead lane and then facing avenue v some type of residential opportunity um there was a planning commission meeting and there were a lot of um a couple community members that attended and lots of discussions that were had um his primary interest is the housing aspect [47:44] **Ellissa Owens**: and so simply bringing it forward for discussion if we have any interest in allowing a develo housing development in that area that does not have commercial space attached to it **Mayor Jim Michalski**: during the discussion of the whole project the residents that are behind the avenue bead they do not like the idea of residential access from the back which was scott was wanted to do um even though in the old motel there were [48:29] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: there were apartments back there for rent and they would they were rented that time so there was access before and the width of the road came up but we have found out since that it is a 40-foot easement so it's a lot wider it's probably double the foot you see so we don't know if it's more on his property probably unless on the other it hasn't been surveyed but there is a large easement and there's also a power easement um that would be sewer also right **Phil Entner**: yep water **Mayor Jim Michalski**: so there's quite a large east vent and a road easement there well that may be total um so there is a lot more room back [49:15] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: there than i thought and i think the next so it was very let's say that the residents behind his business were not in favor of the two buildings it's another well it's it's home like one building the back half residential the front half facing 73 business or office um how many you know offices available for businesses um yes when you talk about residential now there was that home attached to the back of the motel right **Council Member**: so are you talking like [50:02] **Council Member**: if you look kind of yeah yeah is this the actual this is **Ellissa Owens**: this is what he presented correct so he was thinking of two of those correct single level there's um a garage door it looks like windows but the garage doors that are on set with the front of the the establishment um right looking to be a total of six students across six total units and then on the front side of the business **Mayor Jim Michalski**: right correct the other [50:47] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: the other thing possibility but we we discussed it a few years ago and i don't know if all the members were on the chain on the council at the time that we denied uh if you took that same housing development alternative facing the 73 he was talking about condos at the time this is a little bit different design i thought well let's ask the council if that's still viable if not we won't even come up or even speak to him about it i just wanted to get consensus from the council because it was denied condos a number of years ago but i i'm not i can't remember who was on the [51:34] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: council at the time it could have been longer or shorter than i think so **Council Member Douglas Juntunen**: yes greg so he's going to put residential facing backwards is that are we going to put a street back there **Mayor Jim Michalski**: 40 foot street yeah we're gonna have 30 foot setback from the street to the front of the house see he has a lot of room on there that he can move it farther farther west right you know **Council Member Douglas Juntunen**: okay so if you put 35 foot setback from the street to the house is okay then you gotta have you see he's gonna have business on side of that how much setback does he have to have from the 73 to the business **Mayor Jim Michalski**: yeah that's a problem that's why i wanted to see if there's [52:19] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: consensus in the council either yes you know if it was just um departments facing 73 not the not the alleyway **Ellissa Owens**: so essentially the developer said you know the commercial aspect that would be added in is strictly to a to comply with the current zoning so if the zoning wasn't an issue he wouldn't put the commercial space out there because there are offices that are currently sitting sitting vacant so it essentially he just has a a really strong desire to do the housing project so if it's just a matter of discussion does the council want to entertain it yes no do they want it facing avenue b would the council want to see it facing [53:06] **Ellissa Owens**: highway 73 or not at all **Council Member**: who has put street in **Mayor Jim Michalski**: he's got a large parking lot there if you would you would just you only can have the two axis that are on 73 now you can't add any more state wouldn't allow it so he would have just the same access the two accesses that he has already we already have a street vector so is he going to it would just stay as it is it would just stay as a not a street are you talking about are you talking at facing 73 or even and you're talking about facebook i'm talking about the street that's behind me if he's playing if he's having [53:54] **Council Member**: he wouldn't that is street access to the residential right **Mayor Jim Michalski**: so then okay that's going to be a street are we responsible to put a street in no no **Ellissa Owens**: what i'm asking is if if he doesn't want to do the business aspect because there's so many open buildings right now that are commercial that are not being used his going back to his first request a number of years ago of having having uh apartments but facing 73 and this parking lot would actually be where they come in to the garages that that are part of the buildings and these are not [54:41] **Ellissa Owens**: cheap housing you're talking what was he thinking 1700 a month 17 to 2 000 is what he said single level living right there they're not the 700 800 rental these are far more expensive it would be basically a change that from commercial to residential just in that parking lot that's what you would be asking if there's consensus here if not we're not okay **Council Member**: so would it be just the three then two units there'd be six of them oh that's it [55:27] **Council Member**: lengthwise like the hotel so we set these units um he said he has a total of 2 000 no what is his footage 300 feet 300 feet a total of 300 feet between his three persons **Council Member Lou Ohly**: ideally i would like to see it stay business but he's had it for sale for how many years now and he hasn't been able to sell it to anybody for business i can see his problem if he has to sell it for business he may be hanging [56:14] **Council Member Lou Ohly**: onto that property for a long time would be nice to get something on the tax rolls for their i can understand some of the people's concerns that live back there behind his business there but i am open to consider this as being residential it would be nice to see what he actually has planned here i can see you know he has these diagrams here and floor plans but [57:00] **Council Member Lou Ohly**: i'm just i just i just wonder how long it will sit vacant if we're going to wait for the business to come into that area and it is kind of a long narrow piece of property so it'll probably only be used for certain things i do know that there is a demand for housing in town [57:39] **Council Member**: it's commercial i think should stay commercial uh if there was a business aspect that was like okay we're going to have this rented help for businesses and things like that i would be for that but we're not going to put a farm of 80 acres there in the city of you know psychiatry for the same reason it's that is primal state for businesses and it should stay such in my opinion right i mean yeah it's a commercial problem about limited types of commercial property but what i don't know so **Mayor Jim Michalski**: what marshall have you seen **Council Member Kris Huso**: i mean i definitely see counselor flowers position where right now it's a big eyesore and um how long is it gonna sit that we have a lot of vacant commercial buildings up and down arrowhead already um but on the other hand it is a prime commercial spot you need to lose that if i were to consider it though i would i have to have it where the front would be facing [59:09] **Council Member Kris Huso**: arrowhead if there's no commercial on the back because i i just think that back if you have an eyesore and then i might as well sit vegan you go back to a hotel **Mayor Jim Michalski**: he uh we talked to him about that and and uh he said it it's a tough business to compete and to you know stay open you know you're talking building a whole new building which is the expense would be way more than what the old one was and and the number of rentals that he would have would be hard to [59:56] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: make it a viable business for him that even like the one out at the freeway is is uh he said between airbnb and vrbo and all those other opportunities it just totally changed that game and so he's not interested in putting a motel back up there because he doesn't think it would be viable well and he was catering to the um construction workers at the end there because that's all that really was it was an older building hotel yeah i mean it had a great life and it served its purpose but then it was it was getting old **Police Chief**: and i'm gonna make a comment just on the law enforcement side as far as something to consider just because you see right now where some of our apartments that are mixed in in the [1:00:42] **Police Chief**: commercial setting that are down there and we have a lot of turmoil between those residents whether they're hanging out in front and interrupting business just to consider that now this is that person's backyard you might see them sitting out there barbecuing the swimming pool and everything else and that's what you're going to see coming through town in your commercial district so just for consideration that if that's going to interfere because we see it now from time to time **Mayor Jim Michalski**: thank you [1:01:16] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: how many businesses or if he put commercial on the backside like how much commercial commerciality **Ellissa Owens**: so he liked the floor print of this what he provided but essentially he would have it be office so same building dimensions same type of establishment as the housing that would face avenue b but the you know he thought he could get four or five offices in that same footprint and have it face arrowhead so two separate buildings **Mayor Jim Michalski**: and i think you should talk about the businesses facing airheads because it'd be way more traffic coming into a business and you wouldn't want him on that back uh alleyway **Ellissa Owens**: the difficult part is [1:02:02] **Ellissa Owens**: you know he needs he would need a variance that would allow for him to have two separate buildings um he needs to make sure both his buildings can face the right direction and then still comply with all of the setbacks and things of that nature and then you know essentially the residential aspect that faces avenue b um supplements and makes the commercial side viable until you can get people in the building so lots lots to deal with there which is something that if he has to do he has to do **Council Member**: can i ask one more question so if he had commercial on the back side if i'm understanding this correctly none of these um apartments would have a [1:02:49] **Council Member**: backyard **Ellissa Owens**: right right **Mayor Jim Michalski**: but i don't think he wants to put them the businesses on the back um so a whole separate building but he wants them on facing 73 of the businesses yeah i know but it would it be so the walls would be this side is commercial and that side is the or is he like i think it would be one building so then but the front side would be would be the business backside b departments yeah so i'm saying none of these apartments would have a backyard all the activity would be on avenue correct this floor plan that he has here it's it's really hard to read on here it is this design with the uh [1:03:35] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: apartments no and then not the business part is not showing it's not showing the business part is not not shown on here no which is which identifies the the desire primarily for a residential opportunity above everything else is i think where he was coming from **Mayor Jim Michalski**: well just just to uh cut this short now i don't we don't have consensus to move ahead but um we're not going to say anything to him about that then he did present it to the to the building um committee whatever and i think he has some options he can look at suggestions that he may come back to the planning commission or he may go in a [1:04:22] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: whole new direction but i think with the discussion on here and i don't think we have their consensus to tell him to look at residential their apartments what was the planning committee's such outcome of their meeting **Ellissa Owens**: with us he just came he paid the fees he just wanted to get a feeling from the residents and the community and the residents behind him were not in favor of him putting apartments facing their backyards **Mayor Jim Michalski**: so what did the planning commission they just he didn't ask for yes or no he just keeps trying information **Ellissa Owens**: information only wanted to present this and say where are we at is their support [1:05:08] **Ellissa Owens**: and so the feedback he got you know essentially he's regrouping to come up with a definitive layout that the planning commission can review again um with the understanding that it has to include some type of commercial aspect [1:05:32] **Ellissa Owens**: commercial on the first level and so you can do that right now without the planning commission **Mayor Jim Michalski**: he doesn't do that now right right and he may come back with that he may give up the rest of it and say okay then they'll do the commission of it he didn't want to go that way um you if you put apartments up above um i don't know if there was each individual you probably would have to have a either a hallway inside to access them um or stairs for each individual one stairwells there was ada compliance **Ellissa Owens**: yes there's there's issues with that you'd fire you [1:06:18] **Ellissa Owens**: seeing the issues yeah they would not be ada unless you had an elevator in there somehow right right i imagine the cost you know to build anything right now it is very expensive you put a whole nother story on it that's basically doubling your your costs of how much you're going to have to do **Mayor Jim Michalski**: and he had shared the interest that he got um from people who wanted to be able to take advantage of something like this was the single level opportunity um and so that was geared towards his potential um lease or renter's users **Phil Entner**: just an elevator i think we looked at that at the arena you're talking a hundred thousand dollars from an ada accessible elevator [1:07:05] **Phil Entner**: they're not cheap and the construction is is a little different than everything else so they're it's very it shoots the expense up really high um so i think we've got an answer for that for us um we'll move on then moving on to 6f safety and compliance partnership **Ellissa Owens**: the information within the packet is just going to be for your review we've gotten a couple of different packets for our review as far as when we establish what we need to accomplish from a safety perspective there are some different companies out there [1:07:50] **Ellissa Owens**: who partner with cities and to the extent is totally up to the city so a lot of the resources we have um free through the league of minnesota cities so we want to make sure that we're utilizing any free resources we have to help us get policies and procedures and things like that in place so as we review some of these options it would be from a perspective of some of the mandatory training pieces that we have to comply with having a partner that helps us with some of the training that is required and things of that nature so we've just started to look into partnership options and just kind of what's out there and there'll be more to come at a later date [1:08:36] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: yeah along with this this safety process that we have to do now it's quite entailed you have to have programs and policies in place and each building has to develop let's say a procedure has to be developed for each building and that has to be kept up to date along with any safety material that has to go with it whether it's eye washes or first aid kits or the heart thing is happening or you know all that stuff has to be researched and established and records kept and training is is a constant thing [1:09:22] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: every year i think we're way behind i think everybody in this building has to have the blood pathogen and first aid and probably cpr which has not been done for years we got a lot of things to do to all the all of our uh personnel and all of our buildings um so it's gonna be quite intense to get this whole thing up and running like it's supposed to be and what these what this companies do they come in and they help you establish all that and uh when they leave you have all your policies and procedures in place and you have training records set up and the first training that has to be done will be accomplished [1:10:08] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: and and of course we would want to work with what we can with liga city so to cut expenses but they're used to that they unlike the first one this sure-aware advantage they do it for over a hundred in some cities within the state the closest ones to us they do cloquet and uh um is it carlton thompson thompson thompson you know so they're they're all around the area doing the this type of work so we wanted to look at safe sure so i guess the next process would be the consensus to get bids from all of them to take the next step in this process [1:10:55] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: i think we have three of them in here to start with two of them so looking for consensus with it from the council of the move ahead and the next step in this whole thing **Phil Entner**: i think it's very important that we mostly start in the safety committee that we get our policies and everything in order one thing that's you know we kind of started to form a safety train but we found out um looking into us we found it real quick that these people come in to tell you who you have to have on it [1:11:41] **Phil Entner**: like we were kind of just started one well that's not how you do it you have to have specific people in specific positions that have to be honest so right from the beginning we have to look at a different we have to make this trigger we're doing it right i think all aspects of different departments in the city have to have participation in it [1:12:18] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: is [1:12:26] **Council Member**: just a question is this uh is that any of this based on size that as far as compliance and how much compliance **Phil Entner**: based on the size cd with employees 30 and above we were told 50. 50 and above full-time part-time we're tall sorry no it's 25. it was 25. that was 30 and above that's what it used to be is it full time no it's 20 25 it's 25 or more [1:13:07] **Phil Entner**: [Laughter] i'm just throwing that out there **Ellissa Owens**: i understood and um we i know i've mentioned this before and i will reiterate it we will do our absolute best to partner with the league of minnesota cities on all of our free resources um and and make sure that that we are being responsible there um there's grant money out there for things that we might have to purchase so versus what what we might want versus what we have to you know we'll just make sure that we're really identifying all those needs and being efficient with that and the league has actually um has lists with these two on there as far as partnership opportunities for training so the league [1:13:52] **Ellissa Owens**: does not facilitate the training they help you align with somebody to train and that's right now the only identified area where we'll be utilizing somebody um at this time is for the mandatory training **Council Member**: i'd just like to find out what our costs are yeah great [1:14:16] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: if there's a major accident and the osha comes in the first thing they ask is do you have a safety committee do you have all your procedures in place and they'll want to look at it it's number one i know that ocean manual is very very thick the cfr manual so yeah it's just let's want to make sure that word you have to you have to go through it and i mean the best better please have to go ahead and find out all the information she can and try to put things in a order that she understands because she's the one that's that i have to answer the questions when somebody comes in and stuff so she's the first one they're [1:15:02] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: going to hit so she has to understand it yeah but [1:15:14] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: her first person she has to yell at when someone comes in here is you **Phil Entner**: ted records have to be in place and the training records **Police Chief**: i think it's kind of what we did with the police department you know you get everything you have to have them up to date up today in order to sign off make sure everyone's got start training but everything has gone on with the police i mean if you don't have the procedures you're in trouble from the first second yeah the same company you know um the fire department ended up going with them as well and they do arms for city administration too so i mean okay it's smooth it just takes a little commitment on the front end but as of now like if we didn't go with that i mean it's changing weekly monthly we would be behind so you know we get all those state mandates which is specific to minnesota so maybe [1:16:01] **Police Chief**: something worth looking at if you guys are going to go **Mayor Jim Michalski**: yeah absolutely yeah chris you go good consensus [1:16:20] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: yes okay so we have consensus to take the next step in this phil don't you have it done yet **Phil Entner**: i don't know if i'm never gonna get this done but we're gonna try and we're going to try really hard **Mayor Jim Michalski**: okay we're at 6g school property update **Ellissa Owens**: uh yes daryn and i both had an opportunity to meet with the owners of the school this past week and uh just wanted to provide an update um more or less it was a meet and greet for myself and them that was our first time that we had had the opportunity to meet um the owner shared a little bit of current status and and where they're at and where they'd like to be [1:17:06] **Ellissa Owens**: so um at this point in time they've identified the need for the school to come down and i think that's understood from the city's point of view as well so um at this time we're gonna partner and try and get creative as far as identifying monies available to help take down the school so we'll be establishing some meetings with the county the owner is is looking for alternative options with some of the partnerships and that he currently has and so we're just going to continue to work on that and then um once we uh i think get to the next step he uh he's making this a priority he has [1:17:52] **Ellissa Owens**: property in two harbors which he is giving up um which is the old school downtown two harbors um and he's going to concentrate on this facility here and so we're going to connect him with our commissioner for mr peterson for this area we'll put together a meeting we'll meet with the two of them and see what we can do in a county what's available for funding or money they did help us with the old moose tear that down um i don't know if that was 20 some thousand this is this is probably a million dollars to tear it down would this be the entire school even the [1:18:38] **Ellissa Owens**: elementary never been current and he's already you know looked into opportunities to to rebuild um after the fact **Mayor Jim Michalski**: so um he's thinking of the layout he would have enough for three separate apartment buildings of 12 units 12 units each in that property that's his goal that's what he wants to achieve that so he's kind of putting all his focus on this his two other partners that were with him um one left and i think he bought out the other one correct so he is this is now his alone and he's making it his primary focus to get this project done **Council Member**: what does this guy do for a living is he a developer or this is [1:19:26] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: what he does he's a business nationwide he's also a banker **Ellissa Owens**: so um correct we'll continue to update as as we meet with him and and trying to help him form connections in the area um he's got some really great ideas looking at different means of uh once you tear down uh sometimes the county has an interest in buying materials that can be utilized for other projects so if you can um support more or less like crushing crush on site and then **Phil Entner**: yeah used in other buildings **Ellissa Owens**: yeah he was happy to hear there's a pit within a couple miles um because that could be transported and [1:20:11] **Phil Entner**: all crushed out there because it creates a lot of dust when you take brick and cement and all that all that tile you know so if you would like to get that out of a residential area have it all ground up reuse that material and other processes so he's he's done this before he's he knows what he's doing that way he's trying to line up his finances on his end and try to get whatever help he can't hear like triple rb skin look into all the different options up north here and see what we're going to come up **Mayor Jim Michalski**: check out any questions [1:21:00] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: it's sounds good sounds like progress slow but yeah moving on to 6h moose lake farmers market association request i think i brought this in december um they want to go to the minnesota let me get to that [1:21:30] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: i think we handed this out in december if everybody remembers it's a minnesota farmers market process whatever and this is what they want to go to officially and uh this is the like the second month and we didn't get any questions from anybody no response so we're asking it to be approved and when this is approved any other agreements we had them within sunset this is what they would operate under **Council Member**: and uh rory did did you have any discussion with that you're very [1:22:16] **Council Member**: active in the farmers market well i think that i mean we haven't had official meetings because with all the coverage stuff and that but um i think the uh the only thing was uh you know with the use of the structure you know being that that was built for the purpose of farmers markets so that that wouldn't get you know put put a rye there um the other thing is i think the advantage of doing this is to be able to accept like uh you know the ebt and some of the some of the funding programs and uh the only that way that we can do that as a group is to be kind of part of this farmers market association and that's a pretty big thing i mean when you look around the state now most markets do accept you know there's a number of different programs so i think that was kind of the [1:23:03] **Council Member**: key i know as being a vendor i had individuals ask me you know and you could you could do it as individual vendors but that gets pretty complicated whereas if you could do it do it as a market which is what most of them are doing then it kind of follows falls under that umbrella so i think that was the that was kind of the driving force behind us but but there that being said you know we don't want to you know lose lose our location there you know because i know i personally was pretty involved in in making that happen so you know i wouldn't want to be back in a tent somewhere but uh i think it's a kind of a win-win to be able to offer the opportunity the folks that are looking to get healthy produce and and being able to use some of those programs [1:23:48] **Ellissa Owens**: so essentially it will take the farmers market out from under the city's umbrella they will be their own entity through the minnesota farmers market association they're asking to utilize the pavilion at generations park may through october from 8am to 1pm every saturday so we would be allowing them to do so and then with that instead of the city collecting vendor fees from each vendor within the farmers market they will take care of all of that as their own entity and we would simply establish a fee for use of the area throughout the course of the summer [1:24:34] **Ellissa Owens**: so we took a look at what we currently used to bring in the cost of maintenance and we've established a and also wanting to to partner with the farmers markets we've established a 325 fee for the year that is about half of what we used to bring in when we would facilitate it ourselves but this would allow them to utilize the other half to be self-sufficient [1:25:08] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: so i guess questions under motion by the council how long will this agreement be an effective 325 a year **Ellissa Owens**: well it would be each year they'd have to pay that and if they don't they i understand what i'm saying how long of a commitment are we saying that 325 a year **Mayor Jim Michalski**: well let's put it the one that they're under now had no sunset they it was just an agreement that they would utilize it and be available for them for the the days and hours that it was agreed upon in 2011 **Ellissa Owens**: and how many years that's my recommendation would be to add it to the city's fee schedule the city's fee schedule is adjusted on an annual basis [1:25:54] **Ellissa Owens**: or at least reviewed on an annual basis so if the council is willing to make this motion to allow them to be under the minnesota farmers market association i could then add that fee to the fee schedule and bring it to council next month for approval **Mayor Jim Michalski**: you can make this the annual thing when we do the fees in january that's what i would prefer yeah because things change and it could change for them it could change for the city and i think it'd be not in the best interest of the citizens for us just to do this and just leave it i'd like to add it to the fee schedule at 325 a year to be reviewed every year and to go into agreement [1:26:39] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: with the farmer's market can i have a second a second any discussion questions all in favor say aye all right i oppose motion carry thank you [1:26:59] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: moving on to uh seven reports and correspondence we have none at this time number eight committee board meeting minutes we have the park board organizational regular meeting minutes for february 7th we didn't have a quorum in january we had to do the reorganizational and for this month for the parkour uh and under b muslin area fire district protection district for january 11 2022 that those minutes are there i've got something on that they're looking for uh new volunteer firefighters so if you guys know anybody put the word out there for them [1:27:46] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: were there any members coming up for this year i can't remember we did we really knew did we do any of this **Ellissa Owens**: we did that in january i can't remember now who that was **Mayor Jim Michalski**: for volunteer firefighters you know for representing the city on the fire district **Ellissa Owens**: it's still the same as correct none of them came up none of them sunset this year **Mayor Jim Michalski**: i can't remember myself you know like park board members and and all the other committees **Ellissa Owens**: correct we had everybody who was previously on the board they wanted to go on and was renewed then [1:28:31] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: and we have two members that be yourself and bob myself for bob yeah okay thank you moving on to number nine announcements regular Moose Lake city council meeting wednesday march 9th 4 p.m right here who's that economic development authority wednesday february 16th 12 pm at the city conference room Moose Lake water and light commission regular meeting tuesday february 15th 1pm at the water and light office Moose Lake housing redevelopment authority board monday february 14th 11 am at the hillside manor office Moose Lake area fire district tuesday march 8th 6 30 pm at the emergency [1:29:17] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: response center and lastly Moose Lake park board meeting monday march 7 6 30 pm right here any questions have a motion to adjourn so a second all in favor say aye opposed we're adjourned thank you