>> WE ALL HERE. I NOW DECLARE THE MR. FLANNIGAN CITY COUNCIL PRELIMINARY MEETING IS RECONVENED INTO OPEN SESSION AND ALL COUNCILS ARE PRESENT. OUR FIRST ITEM IS ON THE FILM AGENDA IS ACTION RESULTING FROM THE EXECUTIVE SESSION. PERSONNEL ITEM A, COLLIN COUNTY APPRAISAL DISTRICTTRICTTT WE HAVE AN OPENING THAT WE NEED TO REPCE AND I WILL LET COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS AND HOLMER LET US NOW AND COME BACK TO US NEXT MEETING AND WE'LL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS THE PERSON THAT WE'D LIKE TO RECOMMEND. >> YES. OUR SECOND ITEM IS THE NORTH TEXAS MUNICIPAL WATER BOARD MEMBER. RON KELLEY IS FINISHING UP HIS FIRST YEAR AND HAS ASKED TO BE REAPPOINTED. >> MOTION TO REAPPOINT RON KELLEY. >> I HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND. EVERYBODY RAISE YOUR HAND ON THIS. ALL IN FAVOR? THANK YOU, GOOD. NEXT ITEM, DISCUSSION AND DIRECTION REGARDING REQUEST FOR EXTENSION OF LINE OF DUTY LEAVE. CHIEF BIGGERSTAFF. >> I'D LIKE TO REQUEST THAT WE EXTEND THE LINE OF DUTY LEAVE FOR FIREFIGHTER DAVID SCHOTT. STRUCTURE FIRE THAT WE HAD BACK IN MAY OF 2021. AND HE WAS IN THE ATTIC FIGHTING A FIRE, STEPPED THROUGH THE DECKING IN THE ATTIC. DIDN'T FALL ALL THE WAY THROUGH. THE AIR PACK ENDED UP CATCHING HIM, BUT HE INJURED HIS BACK DURING THAT TIME. AFTER RECEIVING INJECTIONS HE WOUND UP HAVING A BACK SURGERY IN JULY. THE SURGERY DIDN'T CORRECT THE PAIN SO HE WAS STILL IN PAIN, UNABLE TO RETURN TO WORK FROM JULY THROUGH FEBRUARY OF 2022. AND THEN IN 2022 THEY TRIED INJECTIONS AGAIN. THAT WASN'T SUCCESSFUL. SO HE ON APRIL 14TH HE HAD A FUSION OF HIS SPINE. OTHERWISE HE WOULD BE HERE TONIGHT WITH ME TO MAKE THIS REQUEST. BUT THAT'S HIS SITUATION RIGHT NOW. HE WILL BE OUT PAST MAY 10th -- MAY 10th WILL BE ONE YEAR THAT HE'S BEEN OUT SO I'M ASKING FOR AN EXTENSION OF THE -- OF HIS LINE OF DUTY LEAVE PAST THAT TIME. I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE. >> THANK YOU. >> CHIEF, HOW MANY MONTHS ARE YOU RECOMMENDING AT THIS POINT THAT THIS BE EXTENDED? >> I WOULD SAY FOR THE EXTENT OF THE YEAR. JUST BECAUSE THE SURGERY THAT HE HAD WAS PRETTY COMPLEX. THAT WAY WE WOULD MAKE SURE THAT WE COVERED THAT TIME FOR REHABILITATION. HOPEFULLY HE WILL BE BACK BEFORE THAT, BUT THEY WOULD COVER USMENT. >> SO UP TO THE 12 MONTHS OF THE SECOND YEAR? >> YES, SIR. >> THANK YOU. >> Mayor Muns: THANK YOU, CHIEF. >> DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION? >> ACTUALLY, CHIEF, I HAVE A QUESTION AND I'LL MAKE A MOTION AFTERWARD. SO BASICALLY WHAT WE'RE DOING IS EXTENDING WHAT THE STATUTE ALREADY ALLOWS, WHICH IS TO EXTEND THE LEAVE, PAID LEAVE, FOR ANOTHER YEAR. THE ONLY THING THAT WE'RE -- THE COUNCIL REALLY IS DOING IS SUPPLEMENTING THE GAP ON THE SECOND YEAR OF THE EXTENDED LEAVE THAT THE STATUTE ALLOWS ANYWAY. >> YES. >>UST SO THAT THE COUNCIL IS APPROVING ONLY THAT GAP PERIOD EVEN THOUGH HE IS PERMITTED UNDER STATUTE TO HAVE A SECOND YEAR LEAVE, AM I CORRECT ABOUT THAT? >> THAT'S CORRECT. HIS FIRST YEAR HE'S RECEIVED 100% COMPENSATION. WITH Y'ALL'S APPROVAL HE WOULD RECEIVE A SECOND YEAR OF 100%. WITHOUT IT IT WOULD ONLY BE 70%. SO YOU'RE APPROVING THE DIFFERENCE THERE, THE 30%. >> Tu: AND WITH THAT I MOVE TO APPROVE. >> SECOND THE MOTION. >> Mayor Muns: THANK YOU. I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE ITEM NUMBER 2. ALL IN FAVOR? THANK YOU, MOTION PASSES 8-0. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, CHIEF. THE NEXT ITEM IS DISCUSSION AND DIRECTION OF COMMENTS OF PUBLIC INTEREST POLICY. >> MAYOR AND COUNCIL, WE'VE HAD A COUPLE OF DISCUSSIONS REGARDING THE COMMENTS OF PUBLIC INTEREST FOR THE CITY'S REGULAR AGENDA. WE HAVE HEARD TO KEEP THESE ON OUR NORMAL AGENDA, AND I THINK THE TIMELINE IS STILL ESTABLISHED BY THE MAYOR FOR THOSE MEETINGS. ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT WE'VE HAD COME UP IS THE CONSISTENCY WITH WHICH WE MANAGE TIME LIMITS. AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE A PUBLIC DISCUSSION ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT WE ADHERE TO THOSE TIME LIMITS IN A STRICT MANNER GOING FORWARD FOR BOTH THE AUDIO AND THE VISUAL SIDE OF THINGS. SO WHATEVER THAT TIME LIMIT IS, MY RECOMMENDATION TO THE COUNCIL IS THAT WE STICK TO THOSE TIME LIMITS, AND AS CEASE THE MICROPHONESNDE WE CEASE VIDEO AT THE TIME AND BE CONSISTENT UPON THAT REGARDLESS OF WHO MAY BE SPEAKING OR PRESENTING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE CONSISTENT IN OUR APPLICATION OF THE MANAGEMENT OF THE VIDEO AND THE AUDIO. >> Mayor Muns: ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS REGARDING THAT? I CERTAINLY HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT. I THINK JUST THE SPACE THAT WE'RE IN MAKES IT A LITTLE BIT MORE DIFFICULT, FOR US. THOSE THAT ARE WATCHING ON TV PROBABLY, YOU KNOW, THEY STOP HEARING IT, BUTE DON'T. AND SO THAT MAKES IT A LITTLE BIT HARDER FOR ME TO COMMUNICATE, BUT ANYWAY, I CERTAINLY WANT TO GIVE EACH SPEAKER THEIR THREE MINUTES, AND IF THEY DON'T WANT TO CONTINUE ON, THEN WE'RE GOING TO ASK THEM TO PAUSE. SO COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS. >> Williams: THANK YOU, MAYOR. I AGREE THAT WE SHOULD HAVE STANDARDIZED TIME LIMITS FOR EVERYBODY AND THAT WE SHOULD ADHERE TO THEM. I WOULD SAY THAT SOMETIMES, ESPECIALLY WHEN THERE'S ONLY LIKE A 10-SECOND WARNING, WE OFTEN AFFORD SPEAKERS A FEW SECONDS COURTESY TO JUST WRAP UP THEIR SENTENCE. I THINK THAT'S FAIR TO CONTINUE, BUT RUN-ONS I AGREE WE SHOULD SHUT IT OFF AND IF SOMEBODY -- MAYBE GIVE A LITTLE MORE WARNING. LIKE MAYBE A 20-SECOND WARNING. MORE RUNWAY FOR PEOPLE TO WRAP UP THEIR THOUGHTS GRACEFULLY. AND I WOULD MAKE AN EXCEPTION IF AND WHEN THERE'S A CIRCUMSTANCE IN WHICH COUNCIL ACTUALLY HAS A QUESTION FOR CLARIFICATION A CIZEN >> COUNCIL, AGAIN, I WANT TO BE SURE WE'RE CLEAR ON THE CLARIFICATION. THE MOMENT WE START SAYING IT'S OKAY HERE AND NOT THERE, I THINK WE NEED TO BE CONSISTENT. BUT I DO AGREE THAT GIVING A 20-SECOND WARNING AND BEING CONSISTENT ABOUT THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT. BUT THIS IS A COUNCIL DISCUSSION. MY RECOMMENDATION IS THAT AT THREE MINUTES OR WHATEVER THAT TIME FRAME IS, THAT WE CEASE ON THE AUDIO AND THE VIDEO. >> MAYOR? >> Mayor Muns: YES. >> I AGREE WITH THE CITY MANAGER BECAUSE EVEN WHEN WE'RE ONOOM WE CUT THEM OFF. AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IF WE'RE DOING THAT ON ZOOM THEN WE ARE DOING THAT IN LIVE. AND I THINK IT'S -- IT'S A PROBLEM TO EXTEND THAT 10 SECONDS OR 20 SECONDS BECAUSE THAT'S PRETTY SUBJECTIVE. AND WHEN YOU SAY OKAY, I'M GOING TO ALLOW YOU TO FINISH A SENTENCE, WHAT IF THE SENTENCE NEVER ENDS? [LAUGHTER]. SO I WOULD ADHERE TO, YOU KNOW, A 20 SECOND WARNING AND THEN ONCE THE TIME IS ONE MINUTE, TWO MINUTE OR THREE-MINUTE PUBLIC COMMENT, ONCE THAT TIME IS UP, IT'S UP, AND JUST LEAVE IT AT THAT. SORRY WE HAVE TO CUT YOU IN THE MIDDLE OF A SENTENCE, BUT YOU PROBABLY NEED TO DO SHORTER SENTENCES. >> Mayor Muns: COUNCILMAN SMITH. >> Smith: AS A FURTHER ADD-ON TO THAT, I THINK THAT --, BUT I HAVEN'T HEARD IT, IS THAT WE MAKE IT CLEAR WHEN THE SPEAKERS COME UP THAT THEY WILL GET A LIGHT OR BUZZER SO THEY'RE LOOKING FOR THAT. SOMETIMES I THINK -- THEY DON'T SEEM TO RECOGNIZE THAT. >> TRE'S AIMER UP THERE? I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT. >> [INAUDIBLE]. >> Smith: BE SURE TO MAKE IT CLEAR AND NOBODY CAN SAY I DIDN'T KNOW THAT. >> WE REALLY NEED TO ADHERE TO THE THREE MINUTES. >> [INDISCERNIBLE]. >> Mayor Muns: WHATEVER IT IS. COUNCIL MEMBER HOLMER? >> Holmer: I WANTED TO MAKE A STATEMENT. I FELT LIKE AFTER THE LAST MEETING MAYBE WHERE I STOOD ON FREE SPEECH WAS MISUNDERSTOOD. WHEN I JOINED THE COUNCIL I FELT LIKE IT WAS VERY IMPORTANT TO PRESERVE PEOPLE'S TIMEND NOT REPEAT WHAT SOME OF MY CO-COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE SO ELOQUENTLY ALREADY STATED AND POSSIBLY WAY BETTER THAN I COULD HAVE. SO I DO HAVE A TENDENCY TO SAY I AGREE WITH SO AND SO RATHER THAN STATING MY FEELINGS ON THINGS. SO IF IT WASN'T CLEAR WHERE I STOOD BEFORE, I DO BELIEVE IN FREE SPEECH. I DO WANT TO HEAR FROM ALL OF OUR CONSTITUENTS AND STAKEHOLDERS IN THE CITY OF PLANO. I WAS IN FAVOR OF NOT CHANGING THE WAY THAT WE DO OUR MEETING AND LEAVING THINGS THE WAY THEY WERE TRADITIONALLY. SO IN THE INTEREST OF SAVING PEOPLE'S TIMES BECAUSE MANY OF YOU MAY NOT REAZE BUT WE'RE REALLY VOLUNTEERS UP HERE. WE DO RECEIVE A STIPEND THAT HELPS COVER GAS, BUT OUR TIME IS BEING DONATED. TO RESPECT THEIR TIME AND STAFF MEMBERS' TIME, MAYBE IT WASN'T THE BEST CHOICE FOR ME TO SAY I AGREE AND I NEED TO PUT IT OUT THERE FOR THE RECORD. SO I WANTED TO MAKE SURE IT WAS CLEAR I DO BELIEVE IN FREE SPEECH AND I DO WANT TO HEAR FROM CONSTITUENTS, AND IT IS AN HONOR TO SERVE THE CITY OF PLANO. THANK YOU. >> Mayor Muns: SO IS EVERYBODY OKAY WITH THE -- GIVING FAIR WARNING ABOUT THE TIME? WE'LL GIVE A 20-SECOND WARNING AND THEN THE TIMER IS RIGHT THERE IN FRONT OF THEM. SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, I THINK WE ALL UNDERSTAND HOW WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD? >> I SEE ENOUGH HEAD NODS THAT I THINK WE'RE IN AGREEMENT. THANK YOU, COUNCIL. >> Mayor Muns: LET'S GO TO ITEM VI, WHICH IS AN ADDITION AND DISCUSSION AND DIRECTION OF PRICE CALATION POLICY. >> MAYOR AND COUNCIL, THIS WAS BROUGHT BY TWO COUNCIL MEMBERS AND THIS WAS POSTED BY THEIR REQUEST. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR AND THANK YOU, MARK. SO COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIAMS AND I REQUESTED THIS ITEM BECAUSE AT THE LAST MEETING WHEN WE WERE DISCUSSING THE AT&T CONTRACT, IT CAME UP THAT IT'S NOT JUST THIS ONE NTRACT, THERE'S A CITY POLICY REGARDING THE PRICE ESCALATORS AND THAT'S HOW IT MANIFESTED THAT THERE'S A THREE PERCENT PRICE ESCALATOR 10 YEARS INSTEAD OF BEING PEGGED TO INFLATION. I FEEL THAT PARTICULARLY IN THE INFLATIONARY ENVIRONMENT THAT WE'RE IN TODAY WE PEG OUR PRICE ESCALATORS TO ACTUAL INFLATION. SO I WOULD JUST SUGGEST THAT WE MODIFY OR ADOPT A CITY POLICY THAT STATES THAT WHEN THERE'S A PRICE ESCALATOR IN A CONTRACT, ITILL BE PEGGED TO ACTUAL INFLATION AT THE HIGHER OF THE CPI OR THE MUNICIPAL COST INDEX, WHICHEVER IS HIGHER, TO MAKE SURE THAT FOR THESE NON-TAX REVENUE STREAMS THAT WE'RE RECOVERING WHAT OUR RESIDENTS NEED US TO RECOVER. >> COUNCILMAN?ILMAN?ILMAN?ILMANL THINK IT'S A REASONABLE POLICY, PARTICULARLY WHERE THE PRICE ESCALATORS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT EXTEND JUST BEYOND AANDF OF YEARS. IN THE CASE WE TALKED ABOUT LAST WEEK IT WAS LOOKING FORWARD 30 YEARS, DURING WHICH DRAMATIC THINGS CAN HAPPEN WITH AN ECONOMY. SO I THINK IT'S A REASONABLE POLICY TO TIE IT TO LIKE COUNCILMAN RICCIARDELLI SAID HIGHER OF THE CONSUMER PRICE INDEX OR CPI. >> SO MAYOR AND COULD YOU, I'VE SPOKEN WITH COUNCILMAN RICCIARDELLI ABOUT THIS AND EXPRESSED SOME CONCERNS WITH A POLICY AS BROAD AS THIS. MY CONCERN IS MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE TREATING OUR REVENUES INTO THE CITY EQUITABLY AS WE DO THIS, SO IT WOULD BE A POLICY THAT I DO THINK WOULD NEED TO BE FAR REACHING. BUT I ALSO HAVE CAUTIONED THAT OUR PARTNERS THAT ARE DOING BUSINESS WITH THE CITY TEND TO PASS ALONG THE COSTS TO OUR CITIZENS. AND SO AFFORDABILITY IS SOMETHING I HEAR FREQUENTLY AND IT IS A HIGH CONCERN FOR THE ENTIRE CITY. INATIONARY ENVIRONMENT, THE SOME OF OUR PARTNERS ACTUALLY INCLUDE THINGS LIKE MUNICIPAL FEES OR MUNICIPAL TAX ON THEIR BILLS, THOSE THINGS THAT GET PASSED ALONG THAT WE FACE QUESTIONS ABOUT. AS WE FACE THOSE QUESTIONS, WE DO GET CRITICIZED FOR COLLECTING THOSE AS WELL. SO WHILE IT MAY BE ASSESSED THAT WAY, I DO FEEL LIKE THESE LIKELY WILL BE PASSED ON TO THE CUSTOMER RATHER THAN COMING ALONG TO THE BOTTOM LINE OF SOME OF OUR CUSTOMERS. THE OTHER THING I HAVE AS A POLICY PERSPECTIVE IS HOW WIDE THIS GOES TO APPLY TO FEES THAT ARE CHARGED IN THE CITY. SO WHILE WE MAY HAVE A CONTRACT WE ALSO HAVE CONTRACTORS THAT ARE DOING BUSINSS IN THE CITY THAT GENERATE REVENUE FOR THE CITY AND I WOULD WANT THAT DIRECTION FROM COUNCILILILILILIL STRICTLY TO SOME FIELDS AND NOT THE OTHER. I THINK WE NEED TO MAKE SURE AS WE'RE DOING THIS WE HAVE APPROPRIATE GUIDANCE AND CLARITY AS FAR AS WHERE THIS WOULD APPLY. >> YEAH, THAT'S MY CONCERN IS ACROSS THE BOARD ESCALATIONS THAT THE CITY WOULD I THINK BE OBLIGATED TO INCLUDE THOSE AS WELL. AND I DON'T FEEL LIKE THAT'S GOOD POLICY, BUT TO BE CONSISTENT ACROSS THE BOARD I THINK THAT'S A CONCERN TO ME, AND OBVIOUSLY THE ADDING ON TO THE CONSUMERS' PRICE DOESN'T REFLECT AS A REAL SAVINGS. AND I'M A LITTLEESANT TOCERN DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS WITHOUT REALLY FURTHER RESEARCHING IT. >> MAYOR, IF I MAY JUST BRIEFLY RESPOND BECAUSE I DID APPRECIATE THE GREAT CONVERSATION THAT I HAD WITH CITY MANAGER ISRAELSON ABOUT THIS. I AM VERY SENSITIVE TO AFFORDABILITY CONCERNS AND I DON'T WANT TO CREATE COSTS FOR OUR RESIDENTS THAT ARE ANY GREATER THAN THEY NEED TO BE. YOU KNOW, ONE, COSTS LIKE THIS MAY NOT ALWAYS BE PASSED ON, BUT IF THEY ARE, THAT CONCERN REALLY IS AN ARGUMENT AGAINST CHARGING THESE FEES AT ALL OR AGAINST HAVING ANY PRICE ESCALATOR. IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A PRICE ESCALATOR I THINK IT JUST MAKES SENSE TO PEG IT TO INFLATION, WHICH IS HOW MUCH COSTS ARE ACTUALLY INCREASING. THAT SEEMS EQUITABLE TO ME. AND I THINK IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT IT'S NOT AS IF WE'RE CREATING ADDITIONAL COSTS FOR OUR RESIDENTS BECAUSE ANY REVENUE THAT WE DON'T COLLECT THROUGH A NON-TAX REVENUE STREAM HAS TO COME THROUGH A TAX REVENUE STREAM. SO ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, YOU KNOW, ASSUMING -- EVEN ASSUMING THAT THIS DOES GET PASSED ON IT WOULD BE BORNE BY THE RESIDENTS, THE TAXES WILL CERTAINLY BE BORNE BY THE RESIDENTS. A NON-TAX REVENUE STREAM MAY OR MAY NOT GET PASSED ON TO RESIDENTS. I THINK EVEN ON THE AFFORDABILITY SIDE OF THINGS, I THINK THIS IS A PRO-AFFORDABILITY THING. AND ALSO PEOPLE CAN'T CHOOSE WHETHER TO PAY TAXES OR NOT, SO I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, THE LEAST FLEXIBLE REVENUE STREAM IS ONE WE TAX. SO I THINK ON AN AFFORDABILITY STANDPOINT, I STILL THINK IT MAKESENSE TO RECOVER THE ACTUAL COST OF WHAT THE CITY IS PROVIDING, YOU KNOW, VIA CHARGING ACTUAL INFLATION. SO THAT'S WHY I THINK THAT'S A GOOD AND EQUITABLE POLICY. >> Mayor Muns: COUNCIL MEMBER GRADY. >> Grady: I JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS AS THE DISCUSSION HAS BEEN GOING ON. THE FIRST QUESTION I HAVE IS IF YOU'RE GOING TO ADD ON A PRICE ESCALATION THAT IS APPLICABLE TO SAY INFLATION OR THREE PERCENT, WHAT'S THE COST OF THAT CONTRACT OVER THE PERIOD OF TIME? BECAUSE I CAN SEE WITHIN THE FIRST FOUR OR FIVE YEARS YOU'RE UP TO ABOUT 110% OF YOUR STARTING PRICE. SO THAT'S A CONCERN BECAUSE ALL OF A SUDDEN OVER A FOUR OR FIVE-YEAR PERIOD OF TIME YOU'VE ADDED 10% TO THE COST OF THE CONTRACT, WHICH EVENTUALLY WILL GET PASSED ON TO THE CONSUMER. THE OTHER PART THAT I HAVE IS WHAT COSTS ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? IF WE'RE LOOKING AT A REVENUE STREAM THAT'S COMING IN FROM SOME SUPPLIER. SAY IT'S AT&T OR WHOMEVER IT IS, IS THAT REALLY COVERING OUR COST OR IS THAT A USAGE FEE OR WHAT --SAGE FEE OR WHAT IS IT REALLY APPLICABLE TO? ARE WE DOING SOMETHING FOR THAT OR IS THAT JUST A FRANCHISE FEE TYPE COLLECTION. >> COUNCIL MEMBER N THIS PARTICULAR CASE IT'S MORE A RIGHT-OF-WAY USE FEE. IT IS USE OF THE RIGHT-OF-WAY. SIMILAR TO A FRANCHISE THAT'S OPERATING HERE. AND THE DISCUSSION IS BROADER THAN THAT. COUNCIL MEMBER RICCIARDELLI AND I HAD A DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS BEING A MORE POLICY DECISION, SO BROADER THAN THE INITIAL AGENDA ITEM THAT KIND OF SPURRED THE DISCUSSION, WHICH IS THAT FRANCHISE SIDE OF THINGS. I THINK THE COUNCILMAN IS SEEKING SOMETHING THAT'S BROADER HAN THAT FOR THOSE PRICE ESCALATORS TO BE TIED TO THAT CPI. BUT TO YOUR QUESTION, WHAT FEES THAT WOULD APPLY TO BEYOND THAT. AGAIN, I WOULD WANT TO SEEK CLARITY BECAUSE WE HAVE VARIOUS CONTRACTS IN THE CITY, BUT WE ALSO HAVE VARIOUS FEES THROUGHOUT THE CITY THAT CONTRACTORS USE AND I WOULD WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT AS WE'RE APPROACHING THIS WE HAVE CLARITY ON EXACTLY W WHAT THIS SUPPLIES TO AND WHAT IT DOES NOT APPLY TO FROM A CITY PERSPECTIVE? >> SO GUESS IN RESPONSE TO YOUR ANSWER, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION TONIGHT TO MAKE A DECISION. >> I WAS GOING TO SAY ALONG WITH WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER GRADY SAID BEFORE, I WOULD BE COMFORTABLE WITH SOMETHING LIKE THIS, BUT I WOULD WANT TO SEE MORE PROS AND CONS OF THIS. AND I'D WANT TO KNOW IF OTHER CITIES HAVE EVER IMPLEMENTED SOMETHING LIKE THIS. AND IF WE WERE GOING TO PUSH THIS OUT MORE BROADLY, I THINK THERE'S SOME COSTS THAT COULD -- IF OTHER CITIES AREN'T DOING THIS, COULD PUTS AT A DISADVANTAGE OF DOING BUSINESS WITH SOME COMPANIES. SO I WOULD WANT TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AS WELL. >> IF COUNCIL WANTS STAFF TO DO SOME ADDITIONAL RESEARCH, WE COULD BRING THIS BACK AS PART OF OUR BUDGET PROCESS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE INCORPORATING IF THERE WERE REVENUE CHANGES, IF THERE WERE PRICE CHANGES AS PART WE'D BE HAPPY TO BE ABLE TO DO SOME SURVEYING OF FOLKS OUT THERE AS FAR AS WHAT THEIR POLICIES ARE, HOW THIS MIGHT APPLY, BUT AGAIN, I THINK THE IMPACT ANALYSIS IS ALWAYS GOING TO BE ON HOW BROADLY THIS IS APPLIED. >> Mayor Muns: DEPUTY MAYOR? >> Tu: SO WHEN YOU BRING IT BACK, CAN YOU BRING SOME SPECIFIC EXAMPLES SO THAT WE'RE NOT JUST TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THEORIES, BUT WE'RE ACTUALLY HAVING SPECIFIC EXAMPLES, CASE SPECIFIC TYPE, HOW THIS IS GOING TO AFFECT THIS TYPE OF INDUSTRY AND HOW THIS IS GOING TO AFFECT ANOTHER TYPE OF INDUSTRY? >> WE'D BE HAPPY TO BRING BACK SPECIFIC EXAMPLES. >> Tu: THANK YOU SO MUCH. [LAUGHTER]. >> Mayor Muns: THANK YOU. IN ADDITION TO BRINGING BACK EXAMPLES, I THK WE SHOULD HAVE A LOOK AT THE SPECIFIC EXAMPLES WHERE WE CAN OF WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THERE ARE NO PRICE ESCALATOR AGREEMENTS TO GET A COMPARISON. AND MY UNDERSTANDING, IF I READ IT RIGHT, IS THAT THERE AREN'T MANY OF THESE DONE,. BUT I DO UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN ABOUT CONSISTENCY, BUT WHENEVER THERE'S A POLICY CHANGE THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO OPERATE ON ONE SIDE AND PEOPLE WHO OPERATE ON THE OTHER SIDE. AND THAT'S ALWAYS A FACTOR OF ADOPTING POLICY REVISIONS OR NEW POLICIES. BUT THE IDEA OF TELLING SOMEBODY WHAT WE'RE GOING TO CHARGE THEM IN 20 YEARS WITHOUT DOING THE ACTUAL ANALYSIS OF WHAT IT WOULD BE WORTH IN 20 YEARS DOESN'T SIT WELL WITH ME. WE NEED SOMETHING EQUITABLE WE CAN PUT ACROSS TO ALL OUR PARTNERS TO MEET THE CIRCUMSTANCES. IF IT'S A COUPLE OF YEARS I DON'T MIND TAKING THAT RISK, BUT 20 YEARS IS A VERY DIFFERENT STORY. >> I THINK I HAVE DIRECTION. COUNCIL, WE WILL BRING SOMETHING BACK AS PART OF THAT DISCUSSION IN THAT BUDGET TIMELINE TO MAKE SURE WE'RE BRINGING IT BACK. WE WILL BRING BACK SOME OF THAT INFORMATION FOR PRICE ESCALATION, WHO IS DOING IT AND AT WHAT LEVEL, WHAT THE TERMS ARE AND WHO IS NOT DOING IT AND HOW THAT MIGHT BE IMPACTING THEIR AGREEMENTS. AND WE'LL MAKE SURE WE GET THAT BACK TO YOU. MR. FORTUNE IS NODDING HIS HEAD, SO I THINK DIRECTION IS CLEAR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> Mayor Muns: THANK YOU. NEXT ITEM IS ITEM IV, I WENT BACK TO IV, CONSENT AND REGULAR AGENDAS. MEMBER WOULD LIKE TO REMOVE? >> MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO REMOVE ITEM F. >> Mayor Muns: OKAY. ALL RIGHT. NEXT ITEM, COUNCIL ITEMS FOR FUTURE AGENDAS. YES. >> THERE HAVE BEEN A NUMBER OF PROPERTY STANDARDS RELATED ISSUES THAT I'VE FIELDED REALLY SINCE MY ELECTION IN 2019, AND WE WENT THROUGH A VERY LENGTHY PROCESS WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, REVIEWING EVERYTHING ACROSS THE CITY. WE'RE GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS OF EVALUATING OUR ZONING ACROSS THE CITY. I THINK IT WOULD BEHOOVE US AS WELL TO TAKE A HOLISTIC VIEW AT ALL OUR PROPERTY STANDARDS AS WELL AS OUR MECHANISMS FOR ENFORCEMENT. NOT ANY ONE THING SPECIFICALLY, BUT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS ARE EXTRANALITIES WHERE THE ACTIONS OF ONE PROPERTY OWNER NEGATIVELY IMPACT A NEIGHBORING OR NEARBY OPER OWNER. CONSISTENCY OF ENFORCEMENT. PROACTIVE VERSUS REACTIVE ENFORCEMENT. AND THAT'S WHY I SAY I THINK WE SHOULD TAKE A HOLISTIC APPROACH IN EVALUATING ALL OF THIS BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND THAT PROPERTY STANDARDS EVOLVE OVER THE DECADES, AND I THINK BY THIS POINT WE PROBABLY HAVE A PATCHWORK OF THEM. >> SO COUNCILMAN, I THINK I NEED A LITTLE MORE CLARIFICATION ON THIS. OUR PROPERTY STANDARDS AS FAR AS IS THIS AN ORDINANCE REVIEW, AN OPERATIONAL REVIEW? WHAT I IT THAT WE ARE AGENDAIZING? >> I THINK FIRST SHOULD BE AN ORDINANCE REVIEW, PRACTICE AND POLICY WILL PROGRESS FROM THAT NATURALLY. >> OKAY. >> AS A SECOND STEP, BUT I THINK THAT A REVIEW OF THE ORDINANCES FIRST, HOW FREQUENTLY HAVE THEY BEEN UPDATED, AND HOW DO OUR ORDINANCES ACTUALLY DRIVE NOT ONLY THE STANDARDS, BUT ENFORCEMENT THEREOF, AND SOME OF THESE EXTRANALITY SITUATIONS. >> AND I TAKE IT WE'RE APPLYING THAT TO THE CURRENT CODE THAT'S OUT THERE? >> YES. AND SEEINGHAT OPPORTUNITIES WE MIGHT HAVE OR STAFF MIGHT RECOMMEND TO BRING EVERYTHING UP TO DATE, MAYBE TIE UP SOME INCONSISTENCIES THAT MAY HAVE ARISEN OVER PIECEMEAL UPDATES OVER THE YEARS. >> SO IF WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS THEN I TAKE IT WE'RE LOOKING AT AN INDUSTRY BEST PRACTICES AS THE STANDARD BY WHICH WE'RE MEASURING OURSELVES AND KIND OF COMPARING IN PLANO'S, WHAT I'M GOING TO SAY IS ORDINANCES AND PRACTICES THAT HAVE GROWN OVER THE YEARS. SO WE'RE KIND OF COMPARING THE TWO? >> I THINK THAT WOULD BE FAIR. AS WELL AS ACTUALLY LOOKING FOR T DIRECT CONTRIBUTIONS. I THINK WE WOULD HAVE ELIMINATED THOSE. BUT AREAS OF APPLICATION FOR OUR PROPERTY STANDARDS WHERE IT MAY -- IT MAY LEAD TO CONFUSION. PROPERTY STANDARDS AND THINGS LIKE OUR NOISE ORDINANCE, THAT CAME UP SEVERAL TIMES OVER THE COURSE OF A FEW YEARS AND THAT'S JUST AN EXAMPLE OF ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAS CAUSED CONFUSION. I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO TINKER WITH THE NOISE ORDINANCE NOW, BUT IT'S JUST AN EXAMPLE. >> THANK YOU FOR THAT. COUNCIL, I THINK I WILL HAVE SOME WORK TO DO WITH PAIGE AND OUR PROPERTY STANDARDS FOLKS, BUT WE'LL SEE IF WE CAN FERRET THAT OUT AND CIRCLE BACK. >> Mayor Muns: COUNCIL MEMBER HOLE MAN? >> Holmer: I SUPPORT THAT DISCUSSION TO HAPPEN BECAUSE IN THE SHORT TIME I'VE BEEN AT COUNCIL I'VE RECEIVED NUMEROUS EMAILS MYSELF AND HAD NUMEROUS DISCUSSIONS. I DON'T KNOW IF WE MAKE A LIST OF THE ITEMS THAT NEED TO BE -- THE THINGS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN BROUGHT UP OR IF WE GIVE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE THAT HAVE CONCERNS OR AREN'T HAPPY WITH CERTAIN THINGS THAT THEY FEEL LIKE WE DON'T HAVE CONSTENCY? MAYBE GIVE THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO THEM. >> COUNCILWOMAN, ONE OF THE THINGS I WOULD STRONGLY RECOMMEND IS WHILE WE'RE WORKING ON THIS A LITTLE BIT, WE HAVE OFFERED RIDE ALONGS FOR VARIOUS SERVICES. THIS IS A REALLY GOOD ONE TO GO ON A RIDE ALONG WITH. SO IT'S SOMETHING I'LL WORK WITH LAURIE SCHWARZ TO MAKE SURE WICK OFFER. HAVING GONE OUT AND OBSERVED WHAT THEY OBSERVE, I THINK THAT HELPS FROM A CONTEXT PERSPECTIVE TO UNDERSTAND A DAY IN THE LIFE OF ONE OF OUR PROPERTY STANDARDS SPECIALISTS. SO AS WE'RE WORKING ON THIS, WE'RE HAPPY TO LOOK AT WHAT OUR CUSTOMER SERVICE SIDE OF THINGS ARE, BUT I'LL WORK TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE SOME OF THOSE RIDE ALONGS AVAILABLE AS WELL AND I THINK THAT WILL BE VALUABLE. >> Mayor Muns: MAYOR PRO TEM? >> Tu: I WAS JUST GOING TO MAKE A SUGGESTION THAT THIS TO ME SEEMS LIKE A VERY BROAD SCOPE OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, AND YOU MAY HAVE A BETTER WAY TO DO THIS, BUT POTENTIALLY JUST ASKING THE DEPARTMENT WHAT ARE THE TOP FIVE AREAS TT WE HAVE ISSUES WITH OR STARTING THERE WITH SOMETHING SO THAT WE CAN, YOU KNOW, BRING THIS TO SOMETHING MANAGEABLE. BUT TO ME LOOKING AT EVERY ORDINANCE WE HAVE SEEMS LIKE IT'S GOING TO BE A HUGE PROJECT. SO I WOULD WANT TO -- IF WE'RE GOING TO GO DOWN THIS ROAD, I WOULD WANT TO TAKE IT IN SOME BITES. MAYBE THE ONES THAT WE HAVE THE MOST COMPLAINTS ABOUT OR SOMETHING TO THAT NATURE. >> I DON'T MIND HAVING A STARTING PLACE, BUT I WOULD& ASK THAT THE STARTING PLACE INCLUDE STANDARDS OF ENFORCEMENT AND EXTRANALITIES. >> CAN YOU GIVE ME CLARIFICATION ON WHAT YOU MEAN BY EXTRANALITIES, COUNCILMAN? >> THINGS LIKE THE TWO MOST PROMINENT THINGS THAT COME TO MIND ARE RAT INFESTATIONS AND LEAVES AND BRANCHES FROM A NEIGHBOR'S PROPERTY THAT IMPACT YOUR OWN PROPERTY. >> I LIKE KAYCI'S SUGGESTION TO GET THE TOP FIVE AND START THERE AND THEN ALSO ADDRESS MAYBE THE SPECIFIC COMPLAINTS THAT WE'VE RECEIVED AS COUNCIL MEMBERS. >> Mayor Muns: OKAY. I THINK WE HAVE A DIRECTION. ALL RIGHT. THIS IS A RARE MOMENT. WE WILL TAKE A RECESS AND RETURN AT 7:00. . . . . >> I now declare the Plano city council is reconvened in regular session. We will begin with the invocationship and the pledge of allegiance and the Texas pledge led by Girl Scout troop 6653 with RENNER middle school. Would you please rise? Thank you for having me. Let us pray. Good and gracious God, thank you for this evening. We thank you that we live in such a place that we can openly come and talk and, Lord, that we have men and women that lead this city. Father, as you give them wisdom, Lord, may they be empowered and emboldened to do things well. God, we thank you for this city council. We thank you for the city. Most importantly, thank you for juror son, Jesus Christ. Lord, may this evening be pleasing to you, and we pray this in Jesus' name. Amen. Thank you. >> Now, please join us in saying the pledge of allegiance followed by the Texas pledge. [Pledge of allegiance] [Texas pledge] >> Thank you, pastor foster. Thank you, troop 5563 for leading the pledges. >> ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS I DID WHEN I BECAME MAYOR LAST YEAR, I WENT TO PLANO WEST AND HONORED THE STATE CHAMPIONS THAT WERE THE STATED CHAMPION WRESTLERS. WE HAVE A GREAT WRESTLING TEAM AT PLANO WEST. I WOULD LIKE TO CALL FORWARD JEFF SMITH, PISD, ATHLETIC DIRECTOR, EVAN LEE, PLANO WEST STUDENT SERVICES ASSISTANT PRINCIPAL, DAVID JONES, SFTON HIGH SCHOOL ASSISTANT PRINCIPAL, JACOB McINTIRE, ASSISTANT WRESTLING COACH, SHEILA, PLANO BOOSTER CLUB, 2022 STATE CHAMPION. [APPLAUSE] BROOK JADA, 2022 STATE RUNNER-UP. [APPLAUSE] PLEASE JOIN ME IN APPLAUDING THESE AMAZING STUDENT-ATHLETES. [APPLAUSE] THANK YOU SO MUCH. I KNOW YOUR SCHOOL IS SO PROUD OF YOU. CONGRATULATIONS. [APPLAUSE] I THINK THIS IS THE SECOND TIME WE'VE DONE THIS, RIGHT? YEAH. ALL RIGHT. CONGRATULATIONS ON WINNING 2022 REGION 2 6A WRESTLING TITLE FOR PLANO WEST SENIOR HIGH SCHOOL. ONCE AGAIN, WE ARE SO EXCITED FOR YOU. WHERE ARE YOU GOING TO COLLEGE? INDIANA. OF COURSE. [APPLAUSE] THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR MAKING THIS CITY A CITY OF EXCELLENCE. CONGRAT CONGRATULATIONS. [APPLAUSE] THANK YOU. CONGRAT CONGRATULATIONS. APPRECIATE IT. >> COMMENTS OF PUBLIC INTEREST? >> COMMENTS OF PUBLIC INTEREST. THIS PORTION OF THE MEETING IS TO ALLOW UP TO THREE MINUTES PER SPEAKER FOR 30 TOTAL MINUTES ON ITEMS OF INTEREST OR CONCERN AND NOT ON ITEMS THAT ARE ON THE CURRENT AGENDA. THE COUNCIL MAY NOT DISCUSS THESE ITEMS, BUT MAY RESPOND WITH FACTUAL OR POLICY INFORMATION. THE COUNCIL MAY CHOOSE TO PLACE THE ITEM ON A FUTURE AGENDA. JUST A REMINDER, AS YOU APPROACH THE PODIUM, PLEASE DO NOT TOUCH OR YELL INTO THE MICROPHONE. >> THANK YOU. ONE THING I WANT TO SAY, SPEAKERS TONIGHT, YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK. WE WILL GIVE YOU A 20-SECOND WARNING THAT YOUR THREE MINUTES ARE ALMOST PLEASE RESPECT THAT TIME AND PLEASE RESPECT THE ROOM AND PLEASE KEEP YOUR COMMENTS CLEAN. WE WOULD APPRECIATE THAT. WE HAVE CHILDREN IN THE AUDIENCE, AND THOSE OF US THAT WOULD RATHER NOT HEAR THOSE THINGS. GO AHEAD AND CALL THE FIRST SPEAKER. >> THE FIRST SPEAKER IS ZY SALANO. >> MY NAME IS ZY, I'M A FLY GUY. >>THESE PRICES ARE SO DAG HIGH. I CAN'T FLY, BUT IT WOULD BE NICE IF I COULD. >> THE GOVERNMENT IS WASHING THESEOUNG KIDS' BRAINS. ♪ I FEEL LIKE I'M ABOUT TO GO INSANE ♪ ♪ ♪ POLITICIANS ARE SO CORRUPT I CAN'T FILL MY TANK ALL THE WAY UP ♪ ♪ YEARS OF IRRITATION LET'S GET RID OF THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION ♪ ♪ ♪ WHAT THEY DON'T SAY MAY CAUSE SOME PAIN THEY DON'T WANT TO WORK DAY TO DAY ♪ ♪ WE PAY TAXES FOR THEM TO SAY YOU GOT TO LIVE ONLY ONE WAY ♪ ♪ YOU GOT TO REALIZE THEY AIN'T ON YOUR SIDE YOU GOT TO HIDE ♪ ♪ THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO SAY THAT YOU'RE FEELING SOME TYPE OF WAY ♪ ♪ THEY WANT TO TAKE YOUR FREE SPEECH AWAY THEY WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU DON'T DISOBEY ♪ >> THAT'S IT. SEE Y'ALL. [APPLAUSE] >> THE NEXT SPEAKER IS BILL FRANCE. >> MAYOR MUNS AND MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL, GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS BILL FRANCE, AND I'M A 25-YEAR RESIDENT OF PLANO, AND TONIGHT I'M HERE TO ASK FOR YOUR HELP. ON MARCH 19th I BECAME AWARE THAT THE PROPERTY OWNER BEHIND MY HOUSE WAS OPERATING A BOARDING HOUSE. FORTUNATELY, I DISCOVERED THAT THE CITY OF PLANO HAD THE FORESIGHT TO ESTABLISH AN ORDINANCE THAT PROHIBITS THIS VERY ACTIVITY. I PROCEEDD TO MAKE A FORMAL COMPLAINT TO THE CITY ANDAS TOLD THAT UNFORTUNATELY, THEY WERE UNABLE TO ENFORCE THAT ORDINANCE. WHEN I ASKED HOW TO APPEAL THIS DECISION, THE CITY INSTRUCTED ME TO BRING THIS MATTER TO YOU. SINCE THAT TIME I HAVE DISCOVERED THAT SHORT-TERM RENTALS ARE A PERVASIVE PROBLEM ACROSS TEXAS. I'VE ALSO FOUND THAT CITIES, SUCH AS ARLINGTON AND GRAPEVINE, HAVE SUCCESSFULLY ENACTED LAWS RESTRICTING SHORT-TERM RENTALS WHICH HAVE BEEN CHALLENGED IN THE COURTS AND HAVE HELD FIRM. EVERY DAY WE SEE MORE AND MORE OUTSIDE INVESTORS PURCHASING HOMES IN OUR RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS. THESE HOMES ARE BEING TURNED INTO PARTY HOUSES, WHICH BRING DRUGS, DISTURBANCES, AND VIOLENCE INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. SINCE MAY OF 2019, THERE HAVE BEEN MORE THAN 230 SHOOTINGS IN SHORT-TERM RENTALS NATIONWIDE. TWO TEENAGERS WERE SHOT AND KILLED IN PITTSBURGH ON EASTER SUNDAY, AND IN FORT WORTH THERE WAS A MURDER JUST LAST MONTH. I AM FEARFUL THAT THE NEXT ACT OF VIOLENCE MAY HAPPEN LITERALLY IN MY OWN BACKYARD, BUT I'M NOT CONCERNED FOR MYSELF ALONE. I'M ALSO CONCERNED FOR OTHER PLANO RESIDENTS AND TO PROTECT THE RESIDENTIAL CHARACTER OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. I ASK EVERYONE HERE TONIGHT WHO SUPPORTS THIS CAUSE TO PLEASE STAND. TOGETHER WE REPRESENT PLANO, TEXAS, NEIGHBORHOOD COALITION. LET US BE CLEAR, WE DO NOT WANT SHORT-TERM RENTALS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. THE PLANO POLICE DO NOT WANT SHORT-TERM RENTALS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. BUT THE SHOOTINGS AND THE PARTY HOUSES ARE JUST THE TIP OF THE ICEBERG. THE MORE FUNDAMENTAL PROBLEM IS THE DESTRUCTION OF THE SENSE OF SAFETY, SECURIT, AND COMMUNITY THAT IS LOST WHEN LONG-TERM RESIDENTS WHO WE KNOW AND TRUST ARE REPLACED BY A REVOLVING DOOR OF STRANGERS AND TRANSIENTS, BUT HERE'S THE GOOD NEWS. WE ALREADY HAVE THE LAWS IN PLACE TO RESTRICT THIS ACTIVITY. ALL WE NEED NOW IS TO HAVE THESE LAWS ENFORCED. TONIGHT I URGE CITY COUNCIL TO TAKE ALL NECESSARY STEPS TO IMMEDIATELY END THIS PROHIBITED ACTIVITY. IN THE WEEKS AHEAD YOU WILL CONTINUE TO HEAR FROM OUR EVER-GROWING COALITION WHO ANXIOUSLY AWAIT A QUICK AND EFFECTIVE RESOLUTION TO THIS PROBLEM. LET US NOT WAIT FOR AN ACT OF VIOLENCE TO OCCUR HERE BEFORE WE ACT. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND YOUR COMMITMENT TO OUR CITY. >> THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] >> SHARON OBERALL. >> BABIES EXPOSED TO SECOND HAND SMOKE IN THE WOMB OR AFTERBIRTH GROW UP WITH WEAKER LUNGS THAN BABIES THAT ARE NOT EXPOSED TO SECOND HAND SMOKE. WE KNOW THAT SECOND HAND SMOKE KILLS ON 41,000 NON-SMOKERS A YEAR FROM CANCER, HEART ATTACKS, AND ASTHMA ATTACKS. I SPOKE TO ONE CITY COUNCILMEMBER ABOUT SMOKING BANS, AND HE STA STATED THAT BAN SHOULD BE AT THE STATE LEVEL. THERE ARE NO STATEWIDE SMOKING BANS IN TEXAS. ALL SMOKING BANS ARE AT THE CITY LEVEL. IF IT WAS UP TO THE STATE LEGISLATURE, YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO SMOKE IN A NICU AT THE HOSPITALS. THEREFORE, IT IS CRITICAL THAT PLANO AND OTHER CITIES HAVE THE COURAGE AND THE LEADERSHIP TO TAKE THE NEXT STEP IN PROTECTING YOUR CITIZENS. I KEEP HEARING THAT SMOKIS LEGAL SO YOU CAN'T LIMIT IT, BUT THAT IS WRONG. IT IS LEGAL TO DRINK ALCOHOL, BUT YOU CANNOT DRINK ALCOHOL WHILE WALKING DOWN A STREET, IN YOUR CAR, OR IN THE PARKS. IT IS LEGAL TO DRINK ALCOHOL IN YOUR BACKYARD, BUT IT IS NOT LEGAL TO POUR THE ALCOHOL INTO YOUR NEIGHBOR'S YARD OR DEFINITELY NOT LEGAL TO POUR IT DOWN THEIR THROAT. YOU WOULD BE ARRESTED FOR ASSAULT. WHY IS SMOKE TREATED DIFFERENTLY? SECOND HAND SMOKE WITHOUT THEIR CONSENT. SPRAYING PERFUME ON SOMEONE WOULD BE CONSIDERED AN ASSAULT. BLOWING CIGARETTE SMOKE ON TO SOMEONE IS ALSO AN ASSAULT. IT CONTAINS 7,000 CHEMICALS. SMALL AMOUNTS OF BENZINE WERE FOUND IN SECRET DEODORANT SO IT WAS PULLED FROM THE MARKET OUT OF AN ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION. CIGARETTE SMOKE HAS BENZINE, AND IF YOU INHALE THE SMOKE, YOU ARE INHALING BENZINE. BENZINE IS A BYPRODUCT OF THE COMBUSTION OF TOBAC IN GAREES. SMOKERS D NON-SMOKERS ALIKE ARE EXPOSED TO BENZINE WHEN THEY BREATHE IN. SHORT EXPOSURE TO BENZINE CAN LEAD TO DEPRESSION OF THE CENTRAL NERVOUS SYSTEM AND IT CAN RESULT IN DROWSINESS, DIZZINESS, AND HEADACHES. IT CAN BE IRRITATING TO THE SKIN, EYES, AND THROATS. THIS IS WHY YOUR THROAT HURTS IF YOU ARE AROUND SOMEONE WHO SMOKES. WHY IS PLANO NOT DOING SOMETHING TO STOP THIS EXPOSURE? IT IS TIME FOR NON-SMOKERS TO NOT BE EXPOSED TO SECOND HAND CIGARETTE SMOKE. THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] >> JAMES BLOCKRIDGE. >> WELL, CITY COUNCIL, TODAY IS KIND OF A NICE SESSION TODAY. I GOT TO MEET WITH MARK AND JACK. THEY DID HAVE A GREAT MEETING. I WANT TO SAY THANK BOTH OF Y'ALL. THANK YOU ALL FOR OPENING UP AND LISTENING. I ALSO WANT TO THANK RICK SMITH AND BOTH Y'ALL FOR THE MEETING ME AFTER THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO DISCUSS SOME THINGS. IT DID HELP, AND I APPRECIATE THAT. I FEEL LIKE PLANO DID TAKE A STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. THERE'S STILL A LOT OF GROUND TO COVER, AND THERE'S STILL SOME THINGS THAT NEED TO HAPPEN. ONE OF THEM IS THE TWO OFFICERS THAT WENT ROGUE. I STILL TO THIS DAY WOULD LOVE TO SEE THEM TERMINATED OR PUT INTO A NEW POSITION WHERE THEY DON'T HAVE THE POWER TO TRY TO CONTROL PEOPLE TO THEIR WILL AND THEIR SATISFACTION. THE FARMING INDUSTRY IS VERY MUCH GOING AWAY, AND IT'S WHAT WE COUNT ON IN TEXAS AND ACROSS AMERICA. IF YOU CITY COUNCILS CONTINUE TO KEEP PUSHING THE FARMERS OUT AND TO WHERE WE CANNOT FARM, WHERE ARE YOU GOING TO GET YOUR BEEF FROM? WHERE ARE YOU GOING TO GET YOUR BREAD FROM, YOUR MILK FROM? IT'S ALL GOING TO GO AWAY, AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE NOTHING TO EAT. I WOULD LOVE TO SEE PLANO TO KEEP WORKING, KEEP COMING FORWARD AND KEEP TRYING TO GET WITH THE FARMING INDUSTRY TO CORRECT AND TO STOP THE OVERREACHING GOVERNMENT. NOT JUST FROM THIS CITY, BUT FROM THE CITIES THAT HAVE REALLY GONE ABOVE AND BEYOND AND DON'T WANT TO WORK WITH US, SO I APPLAUD PLANO FOR COMING FORWARD AND VISITING WITH US AND I HOPE THAT Y'ALL WILL CONTINUE TO VISIT WITH US AND AT THE SAME TIME PLEASE REACH OUT TO YOUR STATE REPS. I HAVE A LETTER FROM THEM. THEY'RE ALL ON BOARD WITH VISITING WITH THE CITY AND THE CITY COUNCIL TO TRY TO COME TO A RESOLUTION TO HELP EACH AND EVERYBODY. AGAIN, THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] >> JOSHUA MURRAY. >> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. I LIVE AT 251 CYPRUS GROVE OVER ON LAN. I HAVE ONE OF TWO OPINGS WHEN IT COMES TO YOUR COUNTY JUDGE FREE ELECTIONS THIS COMING NOVEMBER. THE ROLE OF A COUNTY JUDGE IS TO WORK COLLECTIVELY WITH THE ELECTED LEADERS AND APPOINTED LEADERS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY TO DELIVER SERVICES WITH THE INFRASTRUCTURE, JUSTICE, PUBLIC SAFETY, PUBLIC HEALTH. WITH THAT BEING SAID, I THOUGHT IT WAS APPROPRIATE -- >> I NEED TO INTERRUPT YOU BECAUSE WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO USE CITY RESOURCES FOR ADVOCATING FOR OR AGAINST SOMETHING ON A BALLOT. THIS IS TELEVISED ANDBROADCAST, SO WE CAN'T USE THE CITY RESOURCES IN THAT MANNER. >> YES, MA'AM. I UNDERSTAND. MY NAME IS JOSHUA MURRAY. I WANTED TO INTRODUCE MYSELF. I LIVE AT 251 CYPRUS GROVE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> THANKS. >> MARTY EPSTEIN. >> THIS MAN IS EVIL, AND THIS WAS MY FAVORITE PLATFORM, AND I'M GOING TO TELL YOU WHY IT IS RUINED. HELLO, MY FELLOW QUEER AND NON-BINARY FRIENDS. MY PRONOUNS ARE THEY-THEM, AND TODAY WILL GO DOWN AS THE MOST HORRIFIC DAY IN HISTORY SURPASSING THE HOLOCAUST DUE TO THE FACT THAT ELON MUSK HAS PURCHASED TWITTER SO THAT HIM AND HIS NAZI HETEROSEXUAL FRIENDS WILL BE ABLE TO POST THEIR PROBLEMATIC, ANTI-SCIEN BELIEFS AND GET AWAY WITH IT. THIS IS A THREAT TO OUR DEMOCRACY. RECENTLY ELON TWEETED THAT NETFLIX IS WAITING FOR THE WAR TO END SO THAT THEY CAN MAKE A MOVIE ABOUT A BLACK UKRAINIAN GUY WHO FALLS IN LOVE WITH A TRANS-GENDER RUSSIAN SOLDIER. THIS IS DISGUSTING. NOT ONLY IS THIS RACIST AND TRANS-PHOBIC, BUT I DO NOT FIND IT FUNNY AT ALL, AND UNLIKE ELON, I AM WAY FUNNIER THAN HIM. HERE IS A JOKE I WROTE. NOW LISTEN TO IT AND TELL ME WHO IS FUNNIER, ME OR ELON, THE NAZI? HOW MANY WHITE SUPREMACISTS DOES IT TAKE TO CHANGE A LIGHT BULB? NONE. BECAUSE WHITE SUPREMACISTS DON'T BELIEVE IN CHANGE. [LAUGHING] SOMEBODY LAUGH. THANK YOU. OTHERWISE I'LL CANCEL YOU. ELON MUSK IS HITLER REINCARNATED, AND THIS IS PROBLEMATIC. MY FELLOW QUEER COUNCIL MEMBERS I SAY TO YOU THAT DEMOCRACY IS IN THE BALANCE. ARE YOU GOING TO SIDE WITH SWASTIKAS OR RAINBOWS? ALSO, FOR THE RECORD I WOULD LIKE TO STATE THAT I LOVE EVERYONE AND BELIEVE THAT EVERYONE DESERVES FREE SPEECH AS LONG AS THEIRELIE ALIGN WITH MINE. DO YOU NOT CARE ABOUT OUR FUTURE GENERATION, OR DO YOU LIVE IN AN ECHO CHAMBER OF YOUR NORMAL EVERYDAY PERSON LIKE ME WHO IS BEGGING FOR YOU TO SAVE US FROM THIS FASCIST? DO YOU NOT HEAR ME? OR DO YOU JUST NOT CARE? DO YOU REALIZE THAT SURELY DONALD TRUMP WILL SURELY BE REINSTATED ON TWITTER WHERE HE WILL BE ABLE TO PROMOTE HIS DANGEROUS IDEAS TO THE WHOLE WORLD ONCE AGAIN? LET ME TELL YOU SOME OF THE HATEFUL THINGS THAT DONALD TRUMP HAS SAID. HE SAID THE NEWS IS FAKE. HE SAID THAT ALEC BALDWIN'S CAREER WAS DEAD, WHICH IS DISGUSTING AND HATEFUL. I LOVED HIM IN THE CAT IN THE HAT, AND HE HAD THE NERVE TO CALL THE CORONA VIRUS THE CHINESE VIRUS BECAUSE OF SOME WHACKY CONSPIRACY THAT IT CAME FROM CHINA. HE CALLED PEOPLE LOSERS AND HATERS AND REFUSES TO ACCEPT THE ELECTION RESULTS. THAT IS DENYING REALITY. LASTLY, DUE TO ELON MUSK BUYING TWITTER THIS FRIDAY I WILL OFFICIALLY BE MOVING TO UKRAINE WITH MY NON-BINARY BEST FRIEND, AND THIS IS A ONE-WAY TICKET. I AM GONE. ARE YOU NOT GOING TO MISS ME? BECAUSE YOU WILL MISS ME. YOU WILL MISS ME. I AM LEAVING TO YOU TO MEET VLADIMIR AT THE AIRPORT. >> TIME. [APPLAUSE] >> A.J. CONEY. >> DUSTIN, WE GOOD? LONE SOLDIER. I'M GOING TO KEEP IT REAL. I'VE NEVER BEEN HERE BEFORE, AND THEY TOLD ME I GOT TO DO, LIKE, SOME PLEDGE HAVE ALLEGIANCE. DO I HAVE TO DO THAT OR NO? NO? I'M GOING TO KEEP IT REAL WITH YOU Y'ALL. THIS IS MY FIRST TIME HERE. I'M AN UP AND COMING ARTIST, RAPPER, AND ALL THAT, AND I'M TRYING TO TRY TO SHOUT OUT MY SOCIALS. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S COOL WITH Y'ALL. I'M GOING TO KEEP IT STRAIGHT. SHOUT OUT ALL MY BLONDE SOLDIERS OUT THERE. SLAP SLAP SLAP. SHOUT OUT UNCLE GERALD. SHOUT OUT MY POPS, MY MOMS, SHOUT OUT MY BABY MAMAS FOR HOLDING IT DOWN. THAT'S FACTS. THAT'S MY BOY FROM CANADA SHOUT OUT BENNY BEN, BAMBO, SHOUT OUT POOSCHEISTY. FREE TAE-K ALL DAY. SHOUT OUT ELON MUSK. HE GOT THAT BIG ACQUISITION TODAY. HE RUNNING. HE GOING TO START RUNNING STUFF. I DON'T STAND WITH UKRAINE. I DON'T STAND WITH RUSSIA, ALL THAT NONSENSE. I STAND WITH BIG TOBACCO. THAT'S ME. THAT'S FACTS. SHOUT OUT MARLBORO COMPANY. ON GAME. SHOUT OUT COVID, KEEPING THE UNEMPLOYED THE PAST FOUR YEARS. STILL CASHING THE CHECKS IN, SO SHOUT OUT COVID. I'M WAITING FOR THE COVID -- I'M WAITING FOR THE OMICRON VARIANT. SHOUT OUT ALL THAT SHIT. SHOUT OUT PLANNED PARENTHOOD. THEY SAVED ME A LOT OF MONEY ON ABORTIONS. THAT'S ON GAME. SHOUT OUT PLANNED PARENTHOOD. SHOUT OUT SARGENT GREGORY. SHOUT OUT EZ MY BOY. SHOUT OUT DARION. SHOUT OUT ALL MY ALBANIANS. SHOUT OUT THE ISLAND FOR KEEPING ME ENTERTAINED THE PAST COVID ART. I'VE BEEN GRINDING ONTHAT. I'M LEVEL 65 RIGHT NOW. SHOUT OUT MY CAR 98. I'LL BE GOING OFF. THEY GO CRAZY. I AIN'T GOING TO LIE. I'LL KEEP YOU 150 WITH YOU. SHOUT OUT BRUNO BOSS. SHOUT OUT HIGH TEMP. SHOUT OUT DAKOTA. SHOUT OUT CANADA FOR LINING ME UP. SHOUT OUT 50 CENT AND SAVAGE AND OLD BALLER DOs. ON ME. ON ME. SHOUT OUT MORPHUS. IF YOU ALL DIDN'T WATCH IT, YOU'RE MISSING OUT. GO CATCH THAT HAD IT, IT'S STILL JARED LEDO.. HE KILLS THAT. SHOUT OUT DOLLAR TREE. SHOUT OUT DOLLAR GENERAL. SHOUT OUT LITTLE CAESARS. SHOUT OUT LIL $5 PIZZAS. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY PUT IN THAT. IT'S PROBABLY KILLING ME. THAT SHIT FIRE. LET'S KEEP IT GOING. SHOUT OUT WENDY'S. SHOUT OUT WITH THE FOUR, FOUR, FOUR. SHOUT OUT BIZMO JONES FOR HELPING ME OPEN MY THIRD EYE. HE IS IN ANOTHER DIMENSION. SHOUT OUT -- I KNOW YOU ARE WATCHING. WILD. OUT GUZNOB AND FOO GON YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT IT CLOSELY. >> TIME IS UP. THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] >> BARACHA CRUMACALL. >> HELLO. MY NAME IS BARACHA, AND I'M VERY SAD. I CAN'T BELIEVE ELON MUSK BOUGHT TESLA. IT'S SO HORRIBLE. >> SIR. YOU CANNOT YELL. >> IT'S HORRIBLE THAT HE BOUGHT TWITTER. I CAN'T BELIEVE IT. LAST WEEK YOU TRIED TO CANCEL PUBLIC SPEAKING. IT WAS SO HORRIBLE. NOW I'M DEFINITELY GOING TO GO TO UKRAINE. GET AWA FM THE BUNCH OF BIGOTS AND WHITE SUPREMACISTS AND BUNCH OF NAZIS AND BE ALONG THE LOVING BATTALION. THEY'RE LEARNING GENDER PRONOUNS OVER THERE AND BEING INCLUSIVE. NON-BINARY. BY THE WAY, I'M A GENDER CAMILLE Y -- CAMELEON. I'M LETTING YOU ALL KNOW THAT. THE HORROR THAT ELON MUSK WON'T LET US CANCEL PEOPLE NO MORE. OH. AND YOU WERE BEING WHITE SUPREMACIST LAST MONTH TRYING TO GET RID OF PUBLIC COMMENTS. WHAT DO YOU HAVE AGAINST NON-BINARY TRANSGENDERED PEOPLE. WHITE SPREMIST. THE ANGUISH. WELL, AT LEAST VLADIMIR IS MORE GENDER-INCLUSIVE AND RESPECTS GENDER PRONOUNS OVER THERE IN UKRAINE. THEY'RE TAKING TESTS OVER THERE AND HAVING TRANSGENDER -- OR HAVING DRAG QUEEN STORY TIME FOR THE KIDS, WHICH THEY NEEDED SO KIDS CAN BE MORE INCLUSIVE AND LEARN NOT TO BE BIGOTS AND BETTER HUMANS IN THIS WORLD. THIS IS HORRIBLE. I CAN'T BELIEVE IT. TWITTER. OH. THAT WAS MY FAVORITE PLATFORM. THIS IS HORRIBLE. I'M DONE. >> 30 SECONDS. >> Y'ALL WERE MEAN TO MY NON-BINARY FRIEND EARLIER. I'M GOING TO GO WITH HIM/HER TO UKRAINE. BYE. >> ANY OTHER SPEAKERS? >> THERE . >> LET'S MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA. >> THE CONSENT AGENDA WILL BE ACTED UPON IN ONE MOTION AND CONTAINS ITEMS WHICH ARE ROUTINE AND TYPICALLY NONCONTROVERSIAL. ITEMS MAY BE REMOVED FROM THIS AGENDA FOR INDIVIDUAL DISCUSSION BY A COUNCILMEMBER, THE CITY MANAGER, OR ANY CITIZEN. THE PRESIDING OFFICER WILL ESTABLISH TIME LIMITS BASED UPON THE NUMBER OF SPEAKER REQUESTS. >> MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA WITH THE REMOVAL OF ITEM F AS IN FOX TROT. >> SEND. THANK YOU. I HAVE A MOTION. A SECOND TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ITEM F. PLEASE VOTE. MOTION PASSED 8-0. >> ITEM F. TO APPROVE THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF A THIRD AMENDMENT TO A LICENSE AGREEMENT BY AND BETWEEN THE CITY OF PLANO, TEXAS, AND AT&T CORPORATION, A NEW YORK CORPORATION AUTHORIZING ITS EXECUTION BY THE CITY MANAGER AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THIS ITEM WAS TABLED AT THE APRIL 11th COUNCIL MEETING. >> COUNCIL RICCIARDELLI. >> I PULLED THIS ITEM AGAIN BECAUSE AS WE DISCUSSED EARLIER DURING PRELIMINARY OPEN MEETING, I THINK IT WILL BE GOOD TO HAVE A DISCUSSION AT THE POLICY LEVEL REGARDING PRICE ESCALATORS. I WAS GOING TO PROPOSE THAT WE JUST PASS THIS TONIGHT, PEG TO INFLATION, BUT GIVEN THAT WE ARE GOING TO DISCUSS THIS DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS AND THE FACT THAT THE COMMENCEMENT OF THE NEW AGREEMENT TERM WOULD NOT BE UNTIL DECEMBER 14th OF THIS YEAR, I WANTED TO ASK THE STAFF WHAT THE IMPACT WOULD BE OF TABLING THIS UNTIL THE BUDGET PROCESS. >> COUNCIL, THAT WOULD BE FINE. WE HAVE PLENTY OF TIME. THAT'S WHY WE BROUGHT IT TO YOU ALL EARLY ON IN CASE YOU HAD QUESTIONS. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH, DIRECTORS FORTUNE. I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE THIS UNTIL WE'VE MADE A DECISION AT THE POLICY LEVEL ON PRICE ESCALATORS. >> SECOND. >> ALL RIGHT. I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO TABLE ITEM F. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL RIGHT. PLEASE VOTE. MOTION PASSES 7-1. THERE BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS, MEETING IS ADJOURNED. [MEETING ADJOURNED 7:32 P.M.]