This transcript features a Minneapolis City Council meeting covering an honorary resolution for Women’s History Month, a veto override regarding George Floyd Square, and discussions on boulevard gardening and community safety contracts. [0:00] **Elliott Payne**: UNDER THE MINNESOTA OPEN MEETING LAW, MEETINGS OF THE CITY COUNCIL AND ITS COMMITTEES ARE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC FOR THE PURPOSE OF OBSERVATION ONLY. CONSISTENT WITH COUNCIL RULES. INDIVIDUALS WHO PURPOSELY DISRUPT OR DISRUPT THESE PROCEEDINGS AND INTERFERE WITH THE BODY'S ABILITY TO CONDUCT THE BUSINESS OF THE CITY WILL BE ASKED TO LEAVE. [0:17] **Elliott Payne**: THOSE WHO REFUSE TO FOLLOW THOSE INSTRUCTIONS MAY BE REMOVED FROM THE CHAMBER. I WOULD LIKE TO NOT HAVE THAT HAPPEN, SO YOU'RE ALL WELCOME TO BE HERE. THANK YOU FOR COMING. AND I AM THE PRESIDENT OF THE MINNEAPOLIS CITY COUNCIL, AND BEFORE WE CONVENE OUR MEETING, WE HAVE THE PRESENTATION OF AN HONORARY RESOLUTION RECOGNIZING WOMEN'S HISTORY MONTH. [0:41] **Elliott Payne**: WE ARE PLEASED TO WELCOME GUESTS TO THIS SPACE TO SHARE IN THE PRESENTATIONS BEFORE TAKING UP OUR AGENDA. [1:37] **Aisha Chughtai**: GOOD MORNING. WHEREVER YOU WANT TO BE. AWESOME PERFECT. [1:55] **Aisha Chughtai**: GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE. MY NAME IS AISHA CHUGHTAI. I'M THE VICE PRESIDENT OF THE MINNEAPOLIS CITY COUNCIL AND I'M REALLY EXCITED TO BE JOINED BY FELLOW MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL AND SO MANY OF OUR CITY STAFF TO PRESENT THIS HONORARY RESOLUTION HONORING WOMEN'S HISTORY MONTH, SO WE WILL FIRST BEGIN BY PRESENTING THIS RESOLUTION. [2:18] **Aisha Chughtai**: COUNCIL MEMBER PALMISANO, IF YOU WANT TO COME UP AND PRESENT IT WITH US. AND THEN WE'LL HAND IT OFF WITH TO A FEW FOLKS TO SHARE REMARKS AND COMMENTS ABOUT THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THIS MONTH AND THE CONTRIBUTION OF WOMEN BOTH IN OUR BROADER COMMUNITY AND HERE AT THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS AS WELL. [2:37] **Aisha Chughtai**: WITH THAT, ALL RIGHT. HONORING WOMEN'S HISTORY MONTH. WHEREAS, INTERNATIONAL WOMEN'S DAY CELEBRATED ON MARCH 8, ORIGINATED TO HONOR WOMEN'S ROLLS IN THE LABOR MOVEMENTS AND NORTH AMERICA IN THE EARLY 20th CENTURY, AND WAS ADOPTED GLOBALLY IN 1977 AS A FOCAL POINT FOR THE WOMEN'S RIGHTS MOVEMENT. [3:08] **Aisha Chughtai**: AND WHEREAS, THE MONTH OF MARCH IS OBSERVED NATIONALLY AS WOMEN'S HISTORY MONTH TO RECOGNIZE AND CELEBRATE THE COURAGEOUS WOMEN WHO HAVE GUIDED THE COURSE OF OUR HISTORY AND CONTINUE TO SHAPE AND STRENGTHEN OUR COMMUNITIES, FAMILIES AND WORK PLACES. [3:24] **Linea Palmisano**: AND — WHEREAS, WE ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THE WOMEN'S MOVEMENT HAS HISTORICALLY LEFT OUT BLACK, INDIGENOUS, TRANSGENDER WOMEN OF COLOR AND WOMEN WITH DISABILITIES. [3:39] **Linea Palmisano**: AND IT IS CRUCIAL TO RECOGNIZE AND ADDRESS THE SPECIFIC CHALLENGES FACED BY MARGINALIZED GROUPS OF WOMEN IN OUR QUEST FOR TRUE EQUITY, ELEVATION AND INCLUSION. AND WHEREAS, THERE IS A COLLECTIVE NEED FOR ALL OF US TO CHALLENGE GENDER STEREOTYPES AND STRIVE FOR DIVERSE REPRESENTATION AND ACKNOWLEDGE THAT EQUAL OPPORTUNITY ALONE IS NOT ENOUGH TO ACHIEVE GENDER EQUALITY. [4:06] **Katie Koski**: AND WHEREAS — CURRENT CITY COUNCIL BODIES FOR MINNEAPOLIS AND ST. PAUL ARE WORTHY OF RECOGNITION BECAUSE THE MINNEAPOLIS CITY COUNCIL CURRENTLY HAS A WOMEN'S MAJORITY WITH EIGHT OF OUR 13 SITTING COUNCIL MEMBERS BEING WOMEN, OF WHICH FIVE ARE WOMEN OF COLOR, AND THE ST. PAUL CITY COUNCIL FOR THE FIRST TIME IN HISTORY IS MADE UP ENTIRELY OF WOMEN WITH SIX OUT OF SEVEN BEING WOMEN OF COLOR. [4:45] **Katie Koski**: AND WHEREAS, ALL WOMEN LEADERS, REGARDLESS OF THAT YOU ARE FORMAL ROLES OR LEADERSHIP POSITIONS, IT IS IMPORTANT TO ADDRESS THE SYSTEMIC BARRIERS AND BIASES THAT IMPACT WOMEN'S ADVANCEMENT BOTH IN PERSONAL AND PROFESSIONAL SPHERES. [5:02] **LaTrisha Vetaw**: AND WHEREAS, THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS CONTINUES TO SUPPORT OPPORTUNITIES WITHIN OUR ORGANIZATION WHERE WOMEN, ESPECIALLY BLACK, INDIGENOUS, TRANSGENDER AND WOMEN OF COLOR ARE EQUITABLY REPRESENTED AND THRIVING ACROSS DEPARTMENTS AND ROLES AND — [5:22] **LaTrisha Vetaw**: AND WHEREAS, TO SUPPORT WOMEN IN THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS ENTERPRISE, THE MINNEAPOLIS EMPLOYEE OF NETWORK WOMEN WAS FORMED IN 2017 AS AN EMPLOYEE RESOURCE GROUP FOR THOSE INTERESTED IN THE ADVANCEMENT AND EMPOWERMENT OF WOMEN EMPLOYEES. [5:55] **Robin Wonsley**: AND WHEREAS, IT WAS CALLED THE 29% CLUB, WHICH WAS THE PERCENTAGE OF WOMEN IN THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS WORK FORCE. AND WHEREAS THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS WORK FORCE ACCORDING TO DATA COLLECTED FROM THE NEW EMPLOYEE DEMOGRAPHIC QUESTIONNAIRE, 33% OF EMPLOYEES SELF-IDENTIFIED AS FEMALE, OF WHICH OVER 39 PEOPLE IDENTIFY AS FEMALE OF COLOR. [6:24] **Aisha Chughtai**: WHEREAS, THE WOMEN E.R.G. OFFER OPPORTUNITIES FOR PEER SUPPORT, NETWORKING OPPORTUNITIES, WELL BEING SUPPORTIVE SERVICES, AND WHEREAS, THE WOMEN OF MINNEAPOLIS EMPLOYEE NETWORK IS AN INVALUABLE RESOURCE TO THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS AND THE COMMUNITY IN PROVIDING GUIDANCE TO RECRUIT, RETAIN, SUPPORT AND EMPOWER WOMEN LEADERS WITH THE CITY'S WORKFORCE — [6:52] **Aisha Chughtai**: NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, WITH COUNCIL MEMBER KOSKI AND LINEA PALMISANO READING IT WITH ME — THAT THE MAYOR AND THE CITY COUNCIL DO HEREBY COMMEMORATE THE ACHIEVEMENTS OF WOMEN IN THE MINNEAPOLIS AND BEYOND. WE ALL CONTINUE OUR EFFORTS TO PROMOTE GENDER EQUITY, SUPPORT DIVERSITY AND THE EMPOWERMENT OF ALL WOMEN IN THEIR COMMUNITY. [APPLAUSE] [7:32] **Aisha Chughtai**: THANK YOU, ALL. WE'LL BEGIN BY ASKING SOME OF OUR EMPLOYEES WHO ARE HERE TODAY TO SHARE SOME REMARKS. [7:42] **Raven Nevilles**: GREETINGS, EVERYONE. THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBERS. MY NAME IS RAVEN NEVILLES AND I AM CO-CHAIR OF THE WOMEN E.R.G. [7:52] **Raven Nevilles**: ALONG WITH KATIE CHAMPION, AND WE JUST WANTED TO, YOU KNOW, TAKE A MINUTE TO THANK ALL THE WOMEN WHO BEFORE US CREATED THE EMPLOYEE RESOURCE GROUP. AS IT WAS SHARED, IT WAS FORMERLY KNOWN AS THE 29% CLUB, AND SINCE THEN NAME HAS BEEN CHANGED TO THE WOMEN OF MINNEAPOLIS EMPLOYEE NETWORK. [8:16] **Raven Nevilles**: IT'S LIKE THEY SHARED, WE STARTED OUT AT 29% AT THE CITY AND THE NUMBERS INCREASED AND THAT IS ONE OF THE REASONS THE EMPLOYEE RESOURCE GROUP IS CREATED TO COME TOGETHER AS WOMEN AND FOR MYSELF SPEAKING PERSONALLY, IT'S GIVEN ME OPPORTUNITIES THAT I DIDN'T PREVIOUSLY HAVING LIKE BEING IN THIS SPACE AND BEING ABLE TO SPEAK. [8:40] **Raven Nevilles**: THIS EMPLOYEE RESOURCE GROUP HAS BEEN A LOT TO ME AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ALSO DO THAT FOR ALL THE WOMEN THROUGHOUT THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS. THAT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE'RE HERE, SUPPORTING EACH OTHER. OFFERING SPACE TO CONNECT. AND WE'RE BUILDING A SAFE PLACE FOR ALL OF US TO GROW WITHIN THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS. [8:57] **Raven Nevilles**: MY PREDECESSORS BEFORE ME, I HOPE I LIVE UP TO THAT. THOSE WHO ARE OUT THERE SEEING THIS NOW AND THERE'S WAYS THAT WE CAN IMPROVE, ANY FEEDBACK, PLEASE LET US KNOW. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THE EMPLOYEE RESOURCE GROUP IS CONNECTED, INCLUSIVE, AND WE ARE CREATING SPACE. [9:15] **Raven Nevilles**: I WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY, AND THAT IS ALL I HAVE TO SHARE. [APPLAUSE] [9:30] **Aisha Chughtai**: I THINK WE'RE DONE. THANK YOU. WE'RE ALL GOING TO TRY TO GET IN BETWEEN THESE TWO LINES TO TAKE A GROUP PHOTO. [11:17] **Elliott Payne**: AT THIS TIME I AM GOING TO CALL THIS REGULAR MEETING OF THE CITY COUNCIL FOR FEBRUARY 27 TO ORDER. THE CLERK WILL CALL THE ROLL. [11:27] **Casey Carl**: COUNCIL MEMBER OSMAN, PRESENT. RAINVILLE PRESENT. [11:33] **Casey Carl**: CHAVEZ PRESENT. VETAW PRESENT. ELLISON HERE. KOSKI PRESENT. WONSLEY PRESENT. JENKINS PRESENT. PALMISANO PRESENT. [11:50] **Casey Carl**: CHOWDHURY IS ABSENT. CASHMAN PRESENT. VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI, PRESENT. [11:58] **Casey Carl**: COUNCIL MEMBER CHOWDHURY, PRESENT. PRESIDENT PAYNE, PRESENT. [12:05] **Casey Carl**: THERE ARE 13 MEMBERS PRESENT. [12:08] **Elliott Payne**: LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT WE HAVE A QUORUM. BEFORE WE BEGIN THE MEETING, I WANT TO OFFER A FRIENDLY REMINDER TO ALL MEMBERS AND STAFF THAT THIS MEETING IS BROADCAST LIVE TO ENABLE GREATER PUBLIC PARTICIPATION. THE BROADCAST INCLUDES REAL-TIME CAPTIONING AS A FURTHER METHOD TO INCREASE THE ACCESSIBILITY OF OUR PROCEEDINGS TO THE COMMUNITY. THEREFORE, ALL SPEAKERS NEED TO BE MINDFUL OF THE RATE OF THEIR SPEECH SO THAT OUR CAPTIONERS CAN FULLY CAPTURE AND TRANSCRIBE ALL COMMENTS FOR THE BROADCAST. WE ASK ALL SPEAKERS TO MODERATE THE SPEED AND CLARITY OF THEIR COMMENTS. [12:32] **Elliott Payne**: WITH THAT, THE AGENDA FOR TODAY'S MEETING IS BEFORE US. COLLEAGUES, I'M GOING TO PROPOSE WE MOVE UNFINISHED BUSINESS TO THE TOP OF THE AGENDA AND COMPLETE OUR ACTION ON CONSIDERATION OF MAYOR FREY'S VETO OF A LEGISLATIVE DIRECTIVE RELATED TO THE GEORGE FLOYD PEDESTRIAN PLAZA STUDY, THEN RETURN TO COMPLETE THE REST OF THE BUSINESS ON THE REGULAR AGENDA IN REGULAR ORDER, STARTING WITH THE REPORTS OF STANDING COMMITTEES. [12:55] **Elliott Payne**: IF THERE IS NO OBJECTION WITH THAT COURSE OF, A, I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADOPT THE AGENDA WITH THAT CHANGE. [13:05] **Aisha Chughtai**: SO MOVED. [13:07] **Aurin Chowdhury**: SECOND. [13:09] **Casey Carl**: COUNCIL MEMBER OSMAN, AYE. RAINVILLE AYE. [13:13] **Casey Carl**: CHAVEZ AYE. VETAW AYE. ELLISON AYE. KOSKI AYE. WONSLEY AYE. JENKINS AYE. PALMISANO AYE. CHOWDHURY AYE. CASHMAN AYE. VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI, AYE. PRESIDENT PAYNE, AYE. [13:29] **Casey Carl**: THERE ARE 13 YAY YAYS. [13:31] **Elliott Payne**: THAT CARRIES AND THE AGENDA IS ADOPTED. THE NEXT ITEM IS ACCEPTANCE OF MINUTES FROM THE REGULAR MEETING OF FEBRUARY 13. I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE MINUTES. [13:38] **Aisha Chughtai**: SO MOVED. [13:40] **Jason Chavez**: SECOND. [13:41] **Casey Carl**: COUNCIL MEMBER OSMAN, AYE. [13:44] **Casey Carl**: RAINVILLE AYE. CHAVEZ AYE. VETAW AYE. ELLISON AYE. KOSKI AYE. WONSLEY AYE. JENKINS AYE. PALMISANO AYE. CHOWDHURY AYE. CASHMAN AYE. VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI, AYE. [14:00] **Casey Carl**: PRESIDENT PAYNE, AYE. [14:03] **Casey Carl**: THERE ARE 13 AYE. [14:05] **Elliott Payne**: THAT CARRIES AND THE MINUTES HAVE BEEN ACCEPTED. FINALLY, WE HAVE THE REFERRAL OF PETITIONS, COMMUNICATIONS AND REPORTS TO PROPER COMMITTEES. MAY I HAVE THAT MOTION PLEASE? [14:11] **Aisha Chughtai**: SO MOVED. [14:13] **Aurin Chowdhury**: A SECOND. [14:14] **Casey Carl**: OSMAN, AYE. [14:16] **Casey Carl**: RAINVILLE AYE. CHAVEZ AYE. VETAW AYE. ELLISON AYE. KOSKI AYE. WONSLEY AYE. JENKINS AYE. PALMISANO AYE. CHOWDHURY AYE. CASHMAN AYE. VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI, AYE. PRESIDENT PAYNE, AYE. [14:31] **Casey Carl**: THERE ARE 13 AYES. [14:33] **Elliott Payne**: THAT CARRIES AND THOSE MATTERS HAVE BEEN REFERRED. THE FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS IS UNFINISHED BUSINESS. WE HAVE ONE ITEM HERE WHICH IS A LEGISLATIVE DIRECTIVE REQUESTING FURTHER STUDY IN A REPORT OF FINDINGS RELATED TO THE PEDESTRIAN PLAZA CONCEPT LAYOUT FOR THE 38th STREET AND CHICAGO AVENUE GEORGE FLOYD RECONSTRUCTION PROJECT. [14:51] **Elliott Payne**: THIS DIRECTIVE ADOPTED AT OUR LAST MEETING WAS SUBSEQUENTLY VETOED BY THE MAYOR AND IS RETURNED FOR OUR CONSIDERATION. I WILL ASK THE CLERK TO EXPLAIN THE PROCEDURE IN TERMS OF RECONSIDER THE MAYOR'S VETO. MR. CLERK? [15:05] **Casey Carl**: MR. PRESIDENT, AS YOU NOTED, THIS WAS RETURNED WITH THE MAYOR'S VETO AND OBJECTIONS TO THE ACT PROVIDED IN WRITING AND PURSUANT TO CITY CHARTER SECTION 4.4C3 AND COUNCIL RULE 7.8 AND ANY ACT THAT IS VETOED BY THE MAYOR'S RETURN FOR COUNCIL'S AUTOMATIC RECONSIDERATION UNDER THAT RULE IS PLACED BEFORE THE BODY IN THE SAME FORM AS IT WAS ORIGINALLY PASSED WITHOUT DEBATE, WITHOUT AMENDMENT. [15:29] **Casey Carl**: AND THE IMMEDIATE QUESTION TO BE DECIDED BY COUNCIL IS AS FOLLOWS. SHALL THE DECISION OF THE CITY COUNCIL STAND NOT WITHSTANDING THE VETO OF THE MAYOR? IF AT LEAST 2/3 OF THE COUNCIL VOTE IN THE AFFIRMATIVE T MAYOR'S VETO IS OVERRIDDEN AND THE ORIGINAL ACT IS ADOPTED. [15:45] **Casey Carl**: THAT MEANS AN OVERRIDE REQUIRES AT LEAST A MINIMUM OF NINE AFFIRMATIVE VOTES. IN SHORT, COUNCIL NEEDS AT LEAST NINE AFFIRMATIVE VOTES TO PASS THE ORIGINAL ACT AGAIN. OTHERWISE, THE MAYOR'S VETO IS SUSTAINED AND THE ORIGINAL ACT FAILS. WITH THAT, MR. PRESIDENT, I'M READY TO CALL THE ROLL ON THE MOTION FOR RECONSIDERATION. [16:04] **Elliott Payne**: ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PROCEDURE? [16:07] **Michael Rainville**: SO PERHAPS — [16:11] **Elliott Payne**: COUNCIL MEMBER RAINVILLE. [16:13] **Michael Rainville**: PERHAPS THE CLERK WOULD EXPLAIN WHAT AN AYE MEANS TO THE VETO VERSUS A NAY. [16:18] **Casey Carl**: AN AYE VOTE IS VOTING TO OVERTURN THE MAYOR'S VETO. [16:24] **Casey Carl**: A NAY VOTE IS VOTING TO SUSTAIN THE MAYOR'S VETO. [16:29] **Michael Rainville**: THANK YOU. [16:32] **Elliott Payne**: THE MOTION TO RECONSIDER THE GEORGE FLOYD LEGISLATIVE DIRECTIVE IS BEFORE US. TO OVERRIDE THE VETO IS BEFORE US AND REQUIRED NINE AFFIRMATIVE AYE VOTE. THE CLERK WILL CALL THE ROLL. [16:41] **Casey Carl**: COUNCIL MEMBER OSMAN, AYE. [16:44] **Casey Carl**: RAINVILLE, NAY. CHAVEZ AYE. VETAW NO. ELLISON AYE. KOSKI AYE. WONSLEY AYE. [16:56] **Casey Carl**: JENKINS NAY. PALMISANO NO. CHOWDHURY AYE. CASHMAN AYE. VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI, AYE. PRESIDENT PAYNE, AYE. [17:08] **Casey Carl**: THERE ARE NINE YAY YAYS AND FOUR NAYS. [17:11] **Elliott Payne**: THAT MOTION CARRIES AND THE VETO IS OVERTURNED AND THE LEGISLATIVE DIRECTIVE IS ADOPTED. [17:17] **Elliott Payne**: THE NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS IS THE PRESENTATION OF REPORT — [GAVEL] [17:25] **Elliott Payne**: GET OUT OF HERE, MAN. [17:30] **Elliott Payne**: MR. FLOWERS, PLEASE. [OFF-MIC] [17:35] **Elliott Payne**: WE ARE GOING TO TAKE A 5-MINUTE RECESS. [17:42] [GAVEL] [20:41] [COUNCIL IS IN RECESS] [24:36] [GAVEL] [24:40] **Elliott Payne**: MR. CLERK, I WILL ASK YOU TO TAKE THE ROLL TO VERIFY A QUORUM. [24:43] **Casey Carl**: COUNCIL MEMBER OSMAN, PRESENT. [24:45] **Casey Carl**: RAINVILLE, PRESENT. CHAVEZ PRESENT. VETAW PRESENT. [24:52] **Casey Carl**: ELLISON HERE. KOSKI PRESENT. WONSLEY PRESENT. JENKINS PRESENT. PALMISANO PRESENT. CHOWDHURY PRESENT. CASHMAN PRESENT. VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI, PRESENT. [25:05] **Casey Carl**: PRESIDENT PAYNE, PRESENT. [25:09] **Casey Carl**: THERE ARE 13 MEMBERS PRESENT. [25:12] **Elliott Payne**: LET THE RECORD REFLECT WE HAVE A QUORUM. THE NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS IS THE PRESENTATION OF REPORTS FROM OUR STANDING COMMITTEES. THOSE ARE TAKEN IN ALPHABETICAL ORDER BEGINNING WITH THE REPORT OF THE ADMINISTRATION AND ENTERPRISE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE, WHICH WILL BE PRESENTED BY ITS CHAIR COUNCIL MEMBER WONSLEY. [25:30] **Robin Wonsley**: THANK YOU, PRESIDENT PAYNE. WE ARE BRINGING FORWARD 20 ITEMS FOR CONSIDERATION. THE FIRST IS A GIFT ACCEPTANCE FROM SMARTSHEET FOR TRAVEL AND LODGING EXPENSES. TWO IS A GIFT ACCEPTANCE FOR CIVILIAN INVESTIGATORS TO ATTEND CORNERHOUSE FORENSIC INTERVIEW PROTOCOL TRAINING. [25:46] **Robin Wonsley**: THREE IS 2024 QUARTERLY DONATIONS REPORTS. FOUR IS A GRANT FROM McKNIGHT FOUNDATION FOR STRATEGIC PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT. FIVE IS STATE OF MINNESOTA, HOMELAND SECURITY AND EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT GRANT FOR BOMB DETECTION EQUIPMENT AND ASSOCIATED TRAINING. [26:06] **Robin Wonsley**: SIX IS CONTRACT WITH CORNERHOUSE INTERAGENCY FOR FORENSIC INTERVIEW SERVICES OF CHILDREN AND VULNERABLE ADULTS. SEVEN IS CONTRACTS WITH METROYOUTH DIVERSION FOR EAST LAKE STREET AND EAST FRANKLIN COMMUNITY SAFETY AMBASSADORS PILOT PROGRAMS. [26:24] **Robin Wonsley**: EIGHT IS CONTRACT WITH FORESTER RESEARCH INC. FOR PROVIDING MARKET RESEARCH AND ADVISORY SERVICES. NINE IS CONTRACT WITH VARIOUS VENDORS FOR THE 2025-2027 PUBLIC WORKS COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT CONSULTING POOL. [26:44] **Robin Wonsley**: 10 IS A CONTRACT WITH U.S. BANK FOR BANKING SERVICES TO PROVIDE PAYMENT PROCESSING AND DEPOSIT ACCOUNT SERVICES. 11 IS CONTRACT AMENDMENT WITH GUIDEHOUSE INC. FOR MARKET STUDY OF ELECTED OFFICIALS' COMPENSATION. [27:00] **Robin Wonsley**: 12 IS A CONTRACT AMENDMENT WITH KEYSTONE COMPENSATION GROUP LLC FOR CLASSIFICATION AND COMPENSATION CONSULTING SERVICES. 13 IS A CONTRACT AMENDMENT WITH SHAW LUNDQUIS ASSOCIATES FOR THE CITY HALL RESTACK PHASE 3 PROJECT. 14 IS A CONTRACT AMENDMENT WITH PER SEPTEMBERYX INC. FOR CONTINUED SERVICES FOR THE MY MINNEAPOLIS EMPLOYEE ENGAGEMENT SURVEY. [27:25] **Robin Wonsley**: 15 IS A BID FOR BATTLE MOTORS TRUCK PARTS AND SERVICE. 16 IS A BID FOR HOT MIX ASPHALT. 17 IS A BID FOR 2025 WATER MAIN CLEANING AND LINING PROJECT. 18 IS A LEGAL SETMENTMENT CAMPBELL ET — SETTLEMENT CAMPBELL ET AL. VIA CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS. [27:49] **Robin Wonsley**: 19 IS LEGAL SETTLEMENT WORKERS' COMPENSATION JAMES MOTA SENT FORWARD WITHOUT RECOMMENDATION. 20 IS A LEGAL SETTLEMENT WORKERS' COMPENSATION OF MARK KOENIG AND THIS WAS ALSO SENT FORWARD WITHOUT RECOMMENDATION. I WILL MOVE APPROVAL OF ALL ITEMS EXCEPT 19 AND 20, WHICH I WILL ASK FOR A SEPARATE VOTE. [28:11] **Elliott Payne**: COUNCIL MEMBER WONSLEY HAS MOVED APPROVAL FOR ALL ITEMS EXCEPT 19 AND 20. I SEE COUNCIL MEMBER PALMISANO IN QUEUE. [28:20] **Linea Palmisano**: MR. CHAIR, AS I NOTED DURING OUR RECESS, I HAD A POINT OF — I THOUGHT IT WAS A POINT OF ORDER. IT IS A POINT OF INQUIRY. THERE WERE A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM. [28:27] **Linea Palmisano**: WE STILL HAVE PUBLIC WORKS LEADERSHIP IN THE ROOM. I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM THEM IN TERMS OF HOW WE PROCEED, THEN, ON GEORGE FLOYD SQUARE. THEY HAVE SOME INFORMATION TO SHARE IN TERMS OF THE TIMELINE AND HOW IT MIGHT SHIFT AND OTHER KIND OF THINGS. WERE YOU PLANNING TO JUST ROLL OVER ME AND NOT TO ALLOW ME TO PUT THAT IN QUEUE? [28:47] **Elliott Payne**: NO, I SPOKEN TO YOU PREVIOUSLY AND WE DISPOSED OF THAT INFORMATION AND IT WAS A VETO OVERRIDE. THERE IS NO DISCUSSION. [28:57] **Linea Palmisano**: A POINT OF INQUIRY WOULD BE, COULD WE PROCEED WITH SOME INFORMATION ABOUT NEXT STEPS. [29:05] **Elliott Payne**: AS I SAID, WE HAVE DON'T HAVE AN ITEM ON THE TABLE TO IS D — TO DISCUSS RIGHT NOW. [29:12] **Casey Carl**: MR. PRESIDENT, THERE IS A SUBSEQUENT ITEM RELATED TO GEORGE FLOYD SQUARE UNDER ORDINANCE INTRODUCTIONS AND CERTAINLY IF THERE ARE QUESTIONS ABOUT TIMELINE, A POINT OF INFORMATION IS THE RIGHT OF ANY MEMBER OF THE BODY TO ASK. WE ARE CERTAINLY TAKE IT UP NOW OR TAKE IT UP WHEN THE ISSUE ON THE INTRODUCTION COMES FORWARD. [29:26] **Elliott Payne**: I WOULD PREFER WE TAKE IT UP WHEN WE HAVE THAT ACTUAL ITEM. [29:33] **Linea Palmisano**: MR. CHAIR, I WILL YIELD TO THAT, BUT IT WOULD HAVE BEEN NICE TO HAVE HAD THAT CONVERSATIONS. THANK YOU. [29:41] **Elliott Payne**: COUNCIL MEMBER WONSLEY HAS MOVED APPROVAL OF THE THE REPORT MINUS ITEMS 19 AND 20. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE REMAINDER OF THE REPORT? [29:48] **Elliott Payne**: SEEING NONE, I WILL ASK THE CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL. [29:53] **Casey Carl**: COUNCIL MEMBER OSMAN, AYE. RAINVILLE AYE. CHAVEZ AYE. VETAW AYE. ELLISON AYE. [29:59] **Casey Carl**: KOSKI AYE. WONSLEY AYE. JENKINS AYE. PALMISANO AYE. CHOWDHURY AYE. CASHMAN AYE. CHUGHTAI AYE. PRESIDENT PAYNE, AYE. [30:13] **Casey Carl**: THERE ARE 13 AYES. [30:16] **Elliott Payne**: THAT CARRIES AND THOSE ITEMS ARE APPROVED. NEXT WE WILL TAKE ITEMS 19 AND 20. IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THOSE ITEMS? [30:23] **Elliott Payne**: SEEING NONE, CALL THE ROLL. [30:26] **Casey Carl**: MR. PRESIDENT, THE ITEMS CAME FORWARD WITHOUT RECOMMENDATION. THEY NEED A MOTION AND A SECOND. [30:30] **Aisha Chughtai**: SO MOVED. [30:31] **Michael Rainville**: SECOND. [30:33] **Casey Carl**: COUNCIL MEMBER OSMAN, AYE. RAINVILLE AYE. CHAVEZ NO. VETAW AYE. ELLISON AYE. KOSKI AYE. WONSLEY NAY. JENKINS AYE. [30:49] **Casey Carl**: PALMISANO AYE. CHOWDHURY AYE. CASHMAN AYE. VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI, NAY. PRESIDENT PAYNE, AYE. [30:58] **Casey Carl**: THERE ARE 10 YAY YAYS AND THREE NAYS. [31:05] **Elliott Payne**: THAT CARRIES AND THOSE ITEMS ARE APPROVED. THE FULL REPORT IS ADOPTED. THE NEXT REPORT IS FROM OUR BUDGET COMMITTEE AND THAT WORT WILL BE PRESENTED BY THAT COMMITTEE'S CHAIR, VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI. [31:16] **Aisha Chughtai**: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. THE BUDGET COMMITTEE IS BRINGING FORWARD THREE ITEMS FOR CONSIDERATION. ITEM ONE IS APPROVING AN APPOINTMENT TO SEAT 16 FOR THE CAPITAL LONG RANGE IMPROVEMENT COMMITTEE. [31:28] **Aisha Chughtai**: ITEM TWO IS A LEGISLATIVE DIRECTIVE RELATED TO PROCUREMENT PRACTICES FOR COMPLETED SOLICITATIONS AND CONTRACTS UNDER $175,000. AND ITEM 3 IS ADOPTING FINDINGS AND APPROVING THE SALARY SCHEDULE FOR AN APPOINTED POSITION IN THE HUMAN RESOURCES DEPARTMENT OF DIRECTOR TALENT ACQUISITION. [31:49] **Aisha Chughtai**: THE I MOVE APPROVAL OF ALL OF THE ITEMS. [31:54] **Elliott Payne**: VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI HAS MOVED APPROVAL OF THE BUDGET COMMITTEE'S REPORT. IS THERE DISCUSSION? [31:59] **Elliott Payne**: SEEING NONE, CALL CAN ROLL. [32:02] **Casey Carl**: OSMAN AYE. [32:05] **Casey Carl**: RAINVILLE AYE. CHAVEZ AYE. VETAW, YA I YAY. ELLISON AYE. KOSKI AYE. WONSLEY AYE. JENKINS AYE. PALMISANO AYE. CHOWDHURY AYE. CASHMAN AYE. VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI, AYE. PRESIDENT PAYNE, AYE. [32:20] **Casey Carl**: THERE ARE 13 YAY YAYS. [32:22] **Elliott Payne**: THAT CARRIES AND THE REPORT IS ADOPTED. THE NEXT REPORT WILL BE FROM OUR BUSINESS, HOUSING AND ZONING COMMITTEE, WHICH WILL BE GIVEN BY THAT COMMITTEE'S CHAIR COUNCIL MEMBER OSMAN. [32:35] **Jamal Osman**: THANK YOU, PRESIDENT PAYNE. THE BUSINESS, HOUSING AND ZONING COMMITTEE WILL BE BRINGING FORWARD NINE ITEMS. ITEM ONE IS A PASSAGE OF ORDINANCE AMENDING TITLE 1, CHAPTER 2 FOR CLARITY. ITEM TWO IS A PASSAGE THORDZING ADDITIONAL FUND TO THE NATIVE AMERICAN COMMUNITY CLINIC AT 1213 FRANKLIN AVENUE. [32:54] **Jamal Osman**: ITEM THREE IS APPROVING A RENTAL DWELLING LICENSE REVOCATION FOR THE PROPERTY AT 1081 14th AVENUE. ITEM FOUR SAY PROVING ONE GAMBLING LICENSE. ITEM FIVE IS A PASSAGE OF RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE 2024 METROCOUNCIL LIVABLE COMMUNITY GRANT AWARD. [33:14] **Jamal Osman**: SIX IS REZONING AT LARSON DENTAL CLINIC. SEVEN IS AMENDING THE 2025 LICENSE FEE SCHEDULE TO INCLUDE MAXIMUM FEE FOR CLASS A VEHICLE SERVICES. EIGHT IS AUTHORIZING MULTIJURISDICTIONAL AGREEMENT WITH ELEVATE HENNEPIN LOAN AND BUSINESS ASSISTANCE PROGRAM. [33:38] **Jamal Osman**: LASTLY, ITEM NINE IS UPDATING AND RATIFYING INCLUSION ZONING REQUIREMENTS WITHIN THE UNIFIED HOUSING POLICY. WITH THAT I MOVE APPROVAL OF ALL ITEMS. THANK YOU. [33:54] **Elliott Payne**: COUNCIL MEMBER OSMAN HAS MOVED APPROVAL OF THE COMMITTEE'S REPORT. IS THERE DISCUSSION? [34:04] **Katie Cashman**: THANK YOU, PRESIDENT PAYNE. I WANT TO CONGRATULATE THE RISE UP CENTER ON THEIR $500,000 LIVABLE COMMUNITIES GRANT AWARD. [34:09] **Katie Cashman**: THIS IS A SPACE AND THE YWCA SPACE AND CLOSE TO UPTOWN AND EXCITED TO SEE THEM TO FULFILL THE BUDGET NEEDS IN CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT TRAINING CENTER WITH A LARGE COALITION THROUGHOUT THE TWIN CITIES. [34:29] **Jeremiah Ellison**: THANK YOU. A LOT OF ITEMS TO HIGHLIGHT HERE, BUT STICK WITH ITEM NINE T INCLUSIONARY ZONING UPDATE. STAFF HAS DONE A TREMENDOUS JOB. THE HOUSING TEAM HAS DONE A TREMENDOUS JOB IN THE UPDATES AND THE WAYS THEY WORKED WITH THE CONTRACTOR TO GET THE UPDATES IN FRONT OF US, BUT, QUITE FRANKLY, LOOK, IT'S BECOMING HARDER AND HARDER TO BUILD HOUSING IN THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS. [34:57] **Jeremiah Ellison**: IT'S GOING TO BE HARDER TO BUILD AFFORDABLE HOUSING INTO THE FUTURE. AND OUR STAFF IS STAYING AHEAD OF THE CURVE. OUR STAFF IS KEEPING US REALLY WELL INFORMED AND WELL POSITIONED TO CONTINUE BEING A CITY THAT CAN PRIORITIZE AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS. [35:15] **Jeremiah Ellison**: I DIDN'T WANT TO LET THAT PASS WITHOUT THANKING THE DIRECTOR AND HIS TEAM FOR THE WORK THAT THEY HAVE DONE IN GENERAL, BUT ALSO SPECIFICALLY ON GETTING TO WHAT WILL BE A YES ON MAINTAINING THE STRENGTH OF THE INCLUSIONARY ZONING POLICY. [35:35] **Aurin Chowdhury**: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I WANTED TO COMMENT ON THE INCLUSIONARY ZONING POLICY. I THINK IT IS REALLY, REALLY GREAT TO SEE US KIND OF FURTHERING EXPANSION INTO THIS POLICY, SEEING HOW WE CAN GET MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND MORE AFFORDABILITY RATES ACROSS THE CITY. [36:01] **Aurin Chowdhury**: AND ALSO EXPANDING INCLUSIONARY ZONING WITH NEW STUDENT HOUSING. I HAVE A DEEP APPRECIATION FOR STAFF WHO ARE WORKING ON THIS AND GIVING ALL OF US ON THE BIHZ COMMITTEE A BRIEFING. THIS IS A FULL CIRCLE MOMENT AND ONE OF THE FIRST POLICIES AGOT AN OPPORTUNITY WHEN I WAS THE A FIRST-TIME AIDE AT WARD THREE CITY HALL. [36:24] **Aurin Chowdhury**: ORIGINALLY WASN'T GOING TO HAVE STUDENT AND INCLUSIONARY ZONING AND WORK WITH STUDENTS AND STAFF AND FOUGHT TO MAKE SURE THAT WAS INCLUDED. WONDERFUL TO SEE THAT EXPANDED ALONG WITH INCLUSIONARY ZONING ACROSS THE BOARD. THIS IS A SMART MOVE. [36:40] **Aurin Chowdhury**: WHEN WE ARE DISPUSSING THIS AGAIN IN THREE TO FIVE YEARS WE WILL SEE THAT. AND I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH OUR COMMUNITY AND OUR STAFF IN ADDRESSING THE HOUSING CRISIS AND IMPORTANT TOOLS TO HAVE IN OUR TOOL BOX. [36:55] **Linea Palmisano**: MR. CHAIR, I ALSO WANTED TO SPEAK ON NINE, THE INCLUSIONARY ZONING POLICY. FIRST, I CAN'T SEE MOST OF THE PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE. IS STAFF AVAILABLE FOR A QUESTION? IF NOT, THAT'S FINE. [37:11] **Linea Palmisano**: WE KNOW THAT DEVELOPERS HAVE EXPRESSED CONCERN ABOUT THE ALREADY TIGHT OR NONEXISTENT MARGINS TO BUILD MORE HOUSING. THAT IS PREVENTING MORE PROJECTS COMING INTO THE CITY, AFFORDABLE OR MARKET RATE, GIVEN THE CURRENT ECONOMY, GIVEN CURRENT INTEREST RATES. [37:27] **Linea Palmisano**: DEVELOPERS HAVE ASKED FOR A COMPLETE PAUSE IN I.Z. PROVISIONS, SO I WORRY THAT DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WAS JUST SAID BEFORE ME, ACTUALLY IT'S NOT GREAT FOR US RIGHT NOW IN 2025. BUT I DO APPRECIATE THE BRIEFING THAT I RECEIVED ON THIS. [37:45] **Linea Palmisano**: I HAVE SPOKEN WITH STAFF AND THANK DIRECTOR PORT AND OTHER. BUT I AM INTERESTED IN UNDERSTANDING MORE AND ESPECIALLY IN HAVING MORE INFORMATION OUT THERE ABOUT THE ALTERNATIVE WAIVER PROCESS THAT IS PART OF THIS. SO I JUST WANT TO SHARE THIS FOR LATER. [38:02] **Linea Palmisano**: I THINK WE NEED TO BE VERY CLEAR IN TERMS OF GETTING ANY HOUSING PROJECTS GOING IN OUR CITY. WHAT IS THE PROCESS TO APPLY FOR A WAIVER? WHAT FACTORS ARE GOING TO BE CONSIDERED FOR THE WAIVER? WHAT EVALUATION METRICS WILL END UP BEING APPLIED IN THAT DETERMINATION. [38:19] **Linea Palmisano**: SO FOR THE FUTURE AND PARTICULARLY FOR OUR DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY, I HOPE WE ARE BEING VERY CLEAR AND SPECIFIC AND CONSISTENT ABOUT THAT GOING FORWARD. THANK YOU. [38:35] **Jamal Osman**: THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT. I WANT TO COMMENT AND REALLY TAKE THE TIME TO THANK OUR STAFF FOR ITEM TWO, NATIVE AMERICAN COMMUNITY CLINIC PROJECT, AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECT THAT IS HAPPENING THERE. THIS HAS BEEN A GREAT ASSET OR GREAT WE SOURCE COMING TO DIRECT SIX AND MUCH NEEDED AND HOUSING AND OF COURSE, NATIVE AMERICAN CLINIC EXPANSION. [39:03] **Jamal Osman**: SO REALLY EXCITED FOR THIS RESOLUTION FOR FUNDING AND ALSO THE OVERALL PROJECT AND WORK AND TIME AND THE HOUSING TEAM HAS TO SPEND ON THIS PROJECT. THANK YOU. [39:19] **Michael Rainville**: THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO PIGGYBACK A LITTLE BIT ON THE COMMENTS FROM BOTH COUNCIL MEMBER ELLISON AND PALMISANO. SO DIRECTOR PORT, ALFRED, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I DON'T SEE YOU UNLESS YOU ARE HIDING BEHIND A PILLAR. [39:35] **Michael Rainville**: HIS STAFF AS WELL AS ALFRED HAS DONE A GREAT JOB UPDATING THIS PROPOSAL. I HAVE PUT IN AN INQUIRY FROM THE CLERKS DEPARTMENT ABOUT HOW MUCH HOUSING IS BEING BUILT NOW. WE'RE AT A REAL LOW POINT IN HOUSING. [39:50] **Michael Rainville**: AS WE GO FORWARD TO UNDERSTAND THE IMPACTS OF I.Z., THE IMPACTS THAT A WAIVER PROCESS HAS, WE'RE NOT BUILDING HOUSING. LET'S GET THE TRUE NUMBERS AND SEE HOW BAD IT IS. THANK YOU. [40:06] **Jeremiah Ellison**: I JUST WANT TO CHIME IN AND I APPRECIATE MY COLLEAGUES BEING INTERESTED IN THIS AND I THINK WE NEED MORE INFORMATION. AS A BODY SO THAT WE CAN REALLY UNDERSTAND THE HOUSING MARKET AND ALL THOSE THINGS AND STAFF HAVE BEEN A TREMENDOUS RESOURCE TO ME AS WELL AS PAST COUNCIL MEMBERS. [40:27] **Jeremiah Ellison**: HAPPY TO TALK MORE ABOUT THE HOUSING MARKET. I DID WANTED TO TRY TO SPARE EVERYONE SORT OF MY OPINING ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING, BUT I DO THINK THAT I CAN REPRESENT STAFF'S AND AT LEAST THEIR POSITION ON THIS PRETTY WELL, WHICH IS THAT THE TRUTH IS THAT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING AS A CITY, EVERY CITY, YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR. [40:50] **Jeremiah Ellison**: AND THE GOVERNMENT — THE PEOPLE GET WHAT THE GOVERNMENT PAYS FOR WHEN IT COMES TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING. THAT'S HOW IT WORKS. EXCEPT WITH I.Z. THIS IS ONE OF THE NARROW PLACES WHERE WE GET A LITTLE BIT OF AFFORDABILITY THAT PUTS THE ONUS ON THE DEVELOPER TO BE IN COMMUNITY WITH US AND CONTRIBUTE TO THIS PROBLEM, RIGHT? OF BUILDING MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING. [41:14] **Jeremiah Ellison**: IF WE WERE TO REMOVE I.Z., PAUSE I.Z., NOT A SINGLE PROJECT SO FAR THAT WE HAVE SEEN COME THROUGH WOULD THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN BE VIABLE GO ONLINE, RIGHT? I DON'T WANT US TO BE UNDER THIS IMPRESSION OR GIVE THE PUBLIC THE IMPRESSION IF WE PAUSE I.Z., WE WOULD SEE MORE CONSTRUCTION. [41:33] **Jeremiah Ellison**: WE WOULD NOT, RIGHT? THAT IS IMPORTANT FOR US TO LAY THAT OUT. AND IN THE EVENT WHERE WE WOULD SEE THAT, WHERE THAT, IF NOT, BUT FOR STANDARD IS APPLIED, IF NOT BEFORE THIS POLICY, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO BUILD. IF THAT IS — IF THAT COMES TO FRUITION, THEN STAFF HAS A WAIVER PROCESS FOR A PROJECT TO MOVE FORWARD, RIGHT? BUT THAT IS WHY WE'RE STANDING ON THIS PROJECT. [41:57] **Jeremiah Ellison**: IF WE WERE TO PUT A PAUSE ON THIS PROJECT, WHERE DO WE PUT THE PAUSE, RIGHT? DO WE GO RETROACTIVE FOR FOLKS WHO HAVE ALREADY APPLIED TO BUILD BUILDINGS? DOES THIS PAUSE PERIOD, EVERYBODY APPLIES, THERE IS NO I.Z., THE BUILDING WON'T HAPPEN. [42:15] **Jeremiah Ellison**: WHEN THE MARKET SAYS IT IS TIME TO BUILD, PEOPLE WILL BUILD. BUT THEY WON'T BE INCLUDING ANY AFFORDABLE UNITS IN THEIR BUILDINGS AT THAT TIME. AND THEN EVERYBODY WHO APPLIED BEFORE OR AFTER THE PAUSE IS GOING TO SAY, HEY, WAIT A MINUTE, WE'RE ALL BUILDING WITHIN THE SAME WINDOW. [42:30] **Jeremiah Ellison**: BUT BECAUSE THESE PEOPLE APPLIED WITHIN A CERTAIN — DURING THE PAUSE, NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY DON'T HAVE TO CONTRIBUTE AFFORDABLE UNITS TO OUR COMMUNITY, TO OUR CITY? THAT'S WHAT A PAUSE WOULD DO. AND SO I WANT US TO BE REALLY CLEAR ABOUT WHAT THE MARKET CONDITIONS ARE, AND WHEN WE SEE THESE EBBS AND FLOWS, RIGHT? BY THE WAY, IT'S NOT A MINNEAPOLIS PROBLEM WHERE MARKET RATE HOUSING IS NOT BEING BUILT. [42:58] **Jeremiah Ellison**: IT IS NOT A MINNEAPOLIS PROBLEM. IT IS A NATIONWIDE PROBLEM. AND SO IF WE WERE TO ALL OF A SUDDEN PULL BACK ON THE RESOLUTIONS WE WOULD SEE A LOT LESS AFFORDABLE HOUSING INTO THE FUTURE. [43:19] **Jeremiah Ellison**: I WANT US TO BE SERIOUS AND AGGRESSIVE ABOUT HOW WE CONTINUE TO BE A CITY THAT CAN PRIORITIZE AFFORDABLE HOUSING. YOU GO AROUND THE COUNTRY AND TALK TO FOLKS. NOBODY HAS BUILT MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAN US, AND WE OVER GOT A LOT OF LOCAL REGULATION. [43:36] **Jeremiah Ellison**: HASN'T BEEN A HINDRANCE SO FAR. IT IS IMPORTANT FOR US TO LAY THAT OUT AND NOT THAT YOU ARE DISPARAGING STAFF'S WORK, BUT I THINK THE LOGIC IS SOUND AND THE RECOMMENDATION WE'VE GOT IS A REALLY RESPONSIBLE ONE. [43:54] **Jeremiah Ellison**: THAT'S ALL. AND HAPPY TO TALK FURTHER ABOUT THINGS WE CAN BE DOING THAT I THINK WE CAN BE DOING TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T HAVE THIS, EXACERBATE THIS SLOW DOWN THAT WE'RE SEEING, AGAIN, A NATIONWIDE SLOW DOWN THAT WE'RE SEEING. [44:11] **Michael Rainville**: THANK YOU. ONCE AGAIN, COUNCIL MEMBER ELLISON, YOU SPEAK SO ELOQUENTLY. I, TOO, DO NOT WANT TO TIE UP EVERYBODY'S TIME, SO I LOOK FORWARD TO SPEAKING WITH YOU IN PRIVATE ABOUT A PARTICULAR PROJECT THAT'S BEING HELD UP IN MY WARD. [44:27] **Michael Rainville**: AND I ALSO WANT TO REMIND YOU OF THE LATEST SUCCESS BUILT IN DOWNTOWN WITHOUT THE I.Z. HOUSING. THANK YOU. [44:36] **Elliott Payne**: SEEING NO ONE ELSE IN QUEUE, I WILL ASK THE CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL ON THE BIHZ REPORT. [44:41] **Casey Carl**: OSMAN AYE. [44:43] **Casey Carl**: RAINVILLE AYE. CHAVEZ AYE. VETAW AYE. ELLISON AYE. KOSKI AYE. WONSLEY AYE. JENKINS AYE. PALMISANO AYE. CHOWDHURY AYE. CASHMAN AYE. VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI, AYE. [44:59] **Casey Carl**: PRESIDENT PAYNE, AYE. THERE ARE 13 YAY YAYSES. [45:05] **Elliott Payne**: THAT CARRIES AND THE REPORT IS ADOPTED. THE NEXT REPORT IS FROM OUR CLIMATE AND INFRASTRUCTURE COMMITTEE, WHICH WILL BE PRESENTED BY THAT COMMITTEE'S CHAIR, COUNCIL MEMBER CASHMAN. [45:16] **Katie Cashman**: THANK YOU, PRESIDENT PAYNE. THE C&I COMMITTEE IS BRINGING FORWARD FIVE ITEMS. [45:24] **Katie Cashman**: ONE IS PROJECT APPROVAL AND ASSESSMENTS FOR THE FAIRVIEW NORTH RESIDENTIAL RESURFACING PROJECT. TWO IS AUTHORIZING A COOPERATIVE AGREEMENT WITH HENNEPIN COUNTY FOR THE — [OFF-MIC COMMENTS] [GAVEL] PLEASE, LET'S — [45:45] **Elliott Payne**: LET'S TAKE A FIVE-MINUTE RECESS. [46:04] [CITY COUNCIL IS IN RECESS] [47:45] **Elliott Payne**: WE NEED TO GET BACK TO THE BUSINESS — WE NEED TO GET — WE NEED TO GET BACK TO THE BUSINESS OF OUR AGENDA. [24:36] [GAVEL] [50:48] **Elliott Payne**: I WILL AGAIN RECOGNIZE COUNCIL MEMBER CASHMAN FOR THE CLIMATE AND INFRASTRUCTURE COMMITTEE REPORT. WE SHOULD CALL TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE A QUORUM. [50:57] **Casey Carl**: OSMAN, PRESENT. RAINVILLE PRESENT. [51:04] **Casey Carl**: CHAVEZ PRESENT. VETAW PRESENT. [51:09] **Casey Carl**: ELLISON HERE. KOSKI PRESENT. WONSLEY IS ABSENT. JENKINS PRESENT. PALMISANO PRESENT. CHOWDHURY IS ABSENT. [51:22] **Casey Carl**: CASHMAN PRESENT. VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI, PRESENT. PRESIDENT PAYNE, PRESENT. [51:27] **Casey Carl**: THERE ARE 11 MEMBERS PRESENT. [51:31] **Elliott Payne**: LET THE RECORD REFLECT WE HAVE A QUORUM. I WILL RECOGNIZE COUNCIL MEMBER CASHMAN TO GIVE THE COMMITTEE REPORT FOR CLIMATE AND INFRASTRUCTURE. [51:38] **Katie Cashman**: ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. SO ITEM ONE IS PROJECT APPROVAL AND ASSESSMENTS FOR THE FAIRVIEW NORTH RESIDENTIAL STREET RESURFACING PROJECT. [51:43] **Katie Cashman**: ITEM TWO AUTHORIZING A COOPERATIVE AGREEMENT AMENDMENT WITH HENNEPIN COUNTY FOR THE GLENWOOD AVENUE RECONSTRUCTION PROJECT. THREE AUTHORIZING THE SUBMITTAL OF A GRANT APPLICATION TO THE MINNESOTA POLLUTION CONTROL AGENCY FOR THE RESILIENT GRANT PROGRAM FOR THE OLIVER SOUTH FLOOD MITIGATION PROJECT. [52:02] **Katie Cashman**: ITEM FOUR AUTHORIZING LICENSE AGREEMENTS FOR THE 2025 SHARED BIKE AND SCOOTER PROGRAM. AND ITEM FIVE AUTHORIZING AN M.O.U. WITH XCEL ENERGY TO RECEIVE UTILITY LINE MAINTENANCE VEGETATION FOR MINNEAPOLIS BIOCHAR PRODUCTION. [52:18] **Katie Cashman**: I WILL MOVE APPROVAL OF ALL FIVE ITEMS. [52:21] **Elliott Payne**: IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? COUNCIL MEMBER RAINVILLE. [52:26] **Michael Rainville**: THANK YOU. I WANT TO SPEAK BRIEFLY ON ITEM FOUR, IF I MAY. I DO SEE SOME PUBLIC WORKS REPRESENTATIVES IN THE AUDIENCE AND I HAVE HAD SOME VERY, HOPEFULLY SUCCESSFUL TALKS ABOUT THAT POTENTIAL LICENSE AGREEMENT WITH SCOOTERS ON THE SIDEWALKS. [52:48] **Michael Rainville**: I AM HOPING WHEN THAT IS FINALIZED THAT WE'VE LEARNED HOW TO MANAGE THAT IN A VERY PROPER WAY AND GIVE CITIZENS INPUT TO THE LIVABILITY CONDITIONS THAT THESE SCOOTERS HAVE IN THEIR AREA. SO AGAIN, THANKS FOR PUBLIC WORKS FOR LISTENING AND I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING ALL THE AGREEMENTS COME OUT. [53:09] **Linea Palmisano**: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. I WANTED TO SPEAK ABOUT ITEM THREE, JUST A QUICK NOTE TO SAY AND REMIND OTHERS THAT THIS IS THE EXACT SAME AREA THAT WAS HEAVILY IMPACTED BY A LARGE CITY WATER MAIN BREAK EXACTLY TWO WEEKS AGO TODAY. THIS AREA ALSO HAS REGULAR FLOODING ISSUES AND ONE BUSINESS IS CLEANING OUT THE RUINED SUPPLIES AS OF YESTERDAY. [53:33] **Linea Palmisano**: THE MERCHANDISE AND THE BRAND-NEW VAN THAT WAS TOTALLED AND EVEN YESTERDAY THEY HAD WATER SEEPING IN FROM THE RAIN AND SNOW BUILT. SO I REALLY APPRECIATE STAFF FOR PURSUING THIS GRANT AND SUPPORT THE MATCHING OF $500,000 IF WE SHOULD BE SUCCESSFUL. [53:55] **Linea Palmisano**: THANK YOU FOR STAFF'S WORK ON THIS. [54:02] **Elliott Payne**: SEEING NO ONE ELSE IN QUEUE, I WILL ASK THE CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL. [54:06] **Casey Carl**: OSMAN, AYE. RAINVILLE AYE. CHAVEZ AYE. [54:10] **Casey Carl**: VETAW AYE. ELLISON AYE. WONSLEY, IS ABSENT. JENKINS AYE. PALMISANO AYE. CASHMAN AYE. CHOWDHURY, IS ABSENT. [54:27] **Casey Carl**: VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI, AYE. PRESIDENT PAYNE, AYE. [54:33] **Elliott Payne**: THAT REPORT IS ADOPTED. COUNCIL MEMBER CHOWDHURY, WOULD YOU LIKE TO BE RECORDED AS YOUR VOTE ON — [54:41] **Aurin Chowdhury**: YES, I WOULD LIKE TO BE RECORDED AS AN AYE. [54:45] **Elliott Payne**: WITHOUT OBJECTION IF THE CLERKS WOULD RECORD THAT. THE FINAL REPORT IS FROM THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE, WHICH WILL BE PRESENTED BY COUNCIL MEMBER CHAVEZ. [55:04] **Jason Chavez**: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE — ITEM ONE IS SAFE AND THRIVING COMMUNITY WORK GROUP. TWO IS GIFT ACCEPTANCE FROM LOCAL PROGRESS FOR TRAVEL AND LODGING EXPENSES. THREE IS EMERGENCY WARMING SHELTER FUNDING. FOUR IS BOULEVARD ORDINANCE. [55:19] **Jason Chavez**: FIVE IS SOUTH MINNEAPOLIS COMMUNITY SAFETY CENTER VENDOR SELECTION, LEGISLATIVE DIRECTIVE. SIX IS CONTRACTS WITH MULTIPLE ORGANIZATIONS FOR YOUTH GROUP VIOLENCE PREVENTION. [55:34] **Jason Chavez**: AND SEVEN IS MULTIPLE ORGANIZATIONS WITH VIOLENCE INTERVENTION GROUP SERVICE. I WILL MOVE ITEMS ONE THROUGH THREE FOR APPROVAL, MOVE ITEM 4, 5, 6, AND 7 FOR STRAIT DISCUSSION AND VOTE. [55:56] **Elliott Payne**: ITEM ONE THROUGH THREE FOR APPROVAL AND WE WILL TAKE UP ITEMS 4 THROUGH 7 SEPARATELY. DISCUSSION ON ITEMS ONE THROUGH THREE? [56:06] **Linea Palmisano**: MR. CHAIR, I'M SPEAKING ON ITEMS ONE, THE SAFE AND THRIVING WORK GROUP. [56:13] **Linea Palmisano**: IN CONVERSATION WITH COMMISSIONER BARNETTE, THERE IS A LARGE MULTIDEPARTMENTAL WORKING ON THE DELIVERY OF RECOMMENDATIONS WORKING IN THE SAFE AND THRIVING COMMUNITIES WORT. THIS IS AKIN TO THE LARGE MULTIDEPARTMENTAL EFFORT TO IMPLEMENT THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT AND CONSENT DECREE. [56:29] **Linea Palmisano**: THESE ARE BOTH IMPLEMENTATION TEAMS. AND I STILL STRUGGLE TO UNDERSTAND HOW THESE TWO BODIES WILL INTERACT. WHERE THERE THEY OVERLAP? WHERE WILL THEY CONFLICT? AND IF THEY WILL HINDER EACH OTHER'S PROGRESS. I DO APPRECIATE WE WANT MORE DAYLIGHT AND VISIBILITY INTO OUR PROGRESS AND SAFE AND THRIVING COMMUNITIES, BUT DO WE REALLY THINK A BODY OF 21 INDIVIDUALS AND RESIDENTS OF MINNEAPOLIS ARE ALL GOING TO STAY INVOLVED FOR 10 YEARS? WE HAVE APPROPRIATED MONEY TO PAY PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY FOR 10 YEARS. [57:16] **Linea Palmisano**: AND I DON'T THINK THIS IS READY TO MOVE FORWARD AND I JUST WANTED TO SAY SO. [57:23] **Elliott Payne**: SEEING NO ONE ELSE IN QUEUE, LET'S TAKE UP ITEM ONE AS A SEPARATE VOTE. AND CALL THE ROLL. [57:28] **Casey Carl**: ITEM ONE FROM THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE, COUNCIL MEMBER OSMAN AYE. RAINVILLE NAY. CHAVEZ AYE. VETAW NO. ELLISON AYE. KOSKI AYE. WONSLEY IS ABSENT. [57:49] **Casey Carl**: JENKINS NO. PALMISANO NO. CHOWDHURY AYE. CASHMAN AYE. VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI, AYE. PRESIDENT PAYNE, AYE. [58:01] **Casey Carl**: THERE ARE EIGHT YAYS AND FOUR NAY. [58:05] **Elliott Payne**: THAT ITEM CARRIES. NEXT WE WILL TAKE UP ITEMS TWO AND THREE. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THOSE ITEMS? SEEING NONE, I ASK THE CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL. [58:12] **Casey Carl**: OSMAN, AYE. RAINVILLE AYE. CHAVEZ AYE. VETAW AYE. ELLISON, YA I YAY. KOSKI AYE. [58:21] **Casey Carl**: WONSLEY IS ABSENT. JENKINS AYE. PALMISANO AYE. CHOWDHURY AYE. CASHMAN AYE. VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI, YA I YAY. PRESIDENT PAYNE, AYE. [58:34] **Casey Carl**: THERE ARE 12 AYES. [58:36] **Elliott Payne**: IS THAT CARRIES. AND NEXT WE WILL TAKE UP ITEM NUMBER FOUR. AND I WILL CALL ON — WHICH AUTHOR WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO ITEM FOUR? [58:53] **Linea Palmisano**: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. I'LL START OUT BY SAYING I'M HAPPY AFTER THREE MONTHS OF DELAY THIS HAS NOW AT LEAST ADVANCED TO FULL COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERATION. [59:08] **Linea Palmisano**: THIS ORDINANCE IS ALSO ABOUT PROVIDING MORE USE OF CITY RIGHT-OF-WAY IN A SAFE AND CONSISTENT MANNER. I HAVE BEEN HAPPY TO RECEIVE FEEDBACK AND MAKE CHANGES. I WILL START BY MOVING APPROVAL OF THIS. MIGHT IT ALSO ACCOMPANY THE LEGISLATIVE DIRECTIVE THAT I MENTIONED IN C.O.W. WHICH IS A SIMPLE ONE SENTENCE THAT SAYS WE'RE GOING TO TRACK THE COSTS OF THIS OVER THE FIRST TWO YEARS FOR POTENTIAL PERMIT FEES TO BE PROPOSED AFTER THAT TIME. [59:37] **Linea Palmisano**: I'LL MOVE BOTH OF THOSE FOR APPROVAL. [59:43] **Elliott Payne**: COUNCIL MEMBER PALMISANO HAS MOVED APPROVAL OF THE LEGISLATIVE DIRECTIVE AS WELL AS THE UNDERLYING ORDINANCE. IS THERE A SECOND? [59:54] **Aurin Chowdhury**: SECOND. [59:56] **Elliott Payne**: I'LL RECOGNIZE COUNCIL MEMBER CHOWDHURY. [59:59] **Aurin Chowdhury**: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I JUST WANT TO FIRST START OFF BY THANKING OUR PUBLIC WORKS STAFF AND HEALTH DEPARTMENT STAFF AND CITY ATTORNEYS AND CLERKS WHO HAVE ALL BEEN WORKING WITH US TO COME TOGETHER ON THE BOULEVARDS ORDINANCE. [1:00:13] **Aurin Chowdhury**: AND THEN I WANT TO THANK MY CO-AUTHORS COUNCIL MEMBER PALMISANO, WHO HAD ME KIND OF JUST JOIN ONTO THE BOULEVARDS ORDINANCE. AND COUNCIL MEMBER CASHMAN AND JENKINS. AND THEN I WANT TO THANK OUR COMMUNITY WHO HAS BEEN DEEPLY ENGAGED ON THIS ISSUE AND FOLLOWING ALONG. [1:00:36] **Aurin Chowdhury**: IT WAS MUCH TO MY SURPRISE HOW MANY PEOPLE WERE ENGAGED IN THIS ISSUE AND HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE BEEN GARDENING IN THEIR BOULEVARDS NOT JUST FOR YEARS BUT FOR DECADES IN OUR CITY. I AM GOING TO MOVE A MOTION TO AMEND THE BOULEVARDS ORDINANCE, AS I SAID I WOULD IN OUR COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE. [1:01:00] **Aurin Chowdhury**: MEMBERS, THERE IS A MOTION FROM ME BEFORE YOU IN CONSULTATION AND THE INTENTION BEHIND THE ORDINANCE IS TO ALLOW FOR RAISED PLANTING BEDS WITHOUT A PERMIT. [1:01:16] **Aurin Chowdhury**: I AM JUST GOING TO READ SO IT THE PUBLIC IS AWARE OF WHAT THIS LANGUAGE IS. AT THE TOP IT SAYS RAIN GARDENS ARE ALLOWED ONLY UPON OBTAINING A PERMIT FROM THE CITY ENGINEER OR DESIGNEE. THERE ARE SEPARATE SURFACE WATER AND SEWER ISSUES ON THAT MATTER. [1:01:34] **Aurin Chowdhury**: THEN IT GOES INTO SAYING RAISED PLANTING BEDS ARE ALLOWED WITHOUT A PERMIT IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE FOLLOWING RESTRICTIONS. AND THE RESTRICTIONS READ AS SHALL COMPLY WITH MINNESOTA STATE FIRE CODE AND SHALL NOT IMPEDE EMERGENCY VEHICLE ACCESS AND PROHIBITED WITHIN 40 FEET OF A ROAD SECTION AND 10 FEET OF AN ALLEY OR DRIVEWAY AND PROHIBITED WITH THREE FEET OF ANY FIXED OBJECTS INCLUDING FIRE HYDRANTS AND MAINTAINED NO CLOSER TO A SIDEWALK THAN 6 INCHES AND NO CLOSER TO A ROAD GUTTER THAN 2 FEET. [1:02:10] **Aurin Chowdhury**: SHALL BE MAINTAINED WITH NO ENCROACHMENT OR OVERHANG TO THE ADJACENT PATHWAY, CURB, OR STREET. AND SHALL NOT BE CONTINUOUS FOR MORE THAN 15 FEET MEASURED PARALLEL TO THE CURB OR SIDEWALK, CLEAR SPACED BETWEEN THE RAISED PLANTING BEDS SHALL BE NO LESS THAN THREE FEET. [1:02:26] **Aurin Chowdhury**: AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE IS A LIST OF RESTRICTIONS TO ALLOW THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT ENFORCEMENT WITH SIGHT LINE AND SAFETY ISSUES AND ISSUES THAT MAY IMPEDE THE WORK OF EMERGENCY SERVICES WHETHER IT'S AN EMERGENCY FIRE ZONE OR THERE IS A UTILITY BOX OR FIRE HYDRANT THAT EMERGENCY RESPONDER NEEDS TO GET TO. [1:02:49] **Aurin Chowdhury**: AND THIS IS ALSO AN EFFORT TO MAKE SURE THAT BOULEVARD GARDENING, ESPECIALLY RAISED PLANTING BEDS WHERE THE SOIL MIGHT NOT BE THE SAFEST TO USE AND CONTINUES TO BE SUCCESSFUL FOR LOWER INCOME COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND MANY RENTERS, NONPROFITS, LOCAL BUSINESSES THAT DO THIS TYPE OF WORK. [1:03:13] **Aurin Chowdhury**: AND I WILL MOVE THIS MOTION AND ASK FOR A FORMAL SECOND. [1:03:25] **Katie Cashman**: SECOND. [1:03:28] **Elliott Payne**: COUNCIL MEMBER CHOWDHURY HAS MOVED TO AMEND THE UNDERSTOOD LYING ORDINANCE THAT IS PROPERLY SECONDED. IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? COUNCIL MEMBER CASHMAN? [1:03:36] **Katie Cashman**: THANK YOU, PRESIDENT PAYNE. I THINK THAT AFTER A LOT OF DISCUSSION WITH GARDENERS IN WARD 7, IN WARD 12, THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO DO PLANT DOZENS OF RAISED BEDS THROUGHOUT THE CITY, AND THEY DID RAISE THAT FOR REQUIRING A PERMIT IS GOING TO BE A LOT OF WORK FOR THEM AND THEY HAVEN'T BEEN DOING FOR TENS OF YEARS AT THIS POINT. [1:03:50] **Katie Cashman**: AND WE ALSO HEARD THAT PROVIDING A LETTER FROM YOUR LANDLORD IS GOING TO BE PRETTY PROHIBITIVE FOR RENTERS TO DO THIS TYPE OF GARDENING. AND OTHER PROPERTY I ASSURANCE AND LANGUAGE CONCERNS WITH THE PERMIT APPLICATION IF ENGLISH ISN'T YOUR FIRST LANGUAGE. [1:04:13] **Katie Cashman**: I THINK THIS IS AN EXCLUSIVE MEASURE AND HELPS US ACHIEVE OUR GOAL WHICH IS ENCOURAGING MORE PEOPLE TO GARDEN IN THE BOULEVARD. IT IS CLEAR THAT ROADSIDE SOIL IS LIKELY TO BE CONTAMINATED SO RAISED BEDS ARE DEFINITELY RECOMMENDED IF YOU ARE GROWING FOOD IN THE BOULEVARD. [1:04:33] **Katie Cashman**: THAT IS SOMETHING OUR USER GUIDE WILL SHARE INFORMATION ABOUT SO THAT PEOPLE DO KNOW HOW TO GET SOIL TESTED AND WHY RAISED BED MIGHT BE THE BEST OPTION IF THE SOIL IS CONTAMINATED. ALL THAT BEING SAID, THIS IS A GOOD MEASURE. [1:04:48] **Katie Cashman**: I DO WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT PUBLIC WORKS IS GOING TO BE FIELDING 311 CASES ABOUT POTENTIAL HAZARDOUS OR OBSTRUCTIVE, RAISED BEDS IN THE BOULEVARD AND MORE THAN HAPPY TO AFTER THIS GROWING SEASON TO REVIEW THE 311 CASES AND THE WORK THEY HAVE TO DO TO DEAL WITH ANY PROBLEMATIC RAISED WEDS, AND TO SEE IF WE NEED TO ADJUST THIS AFTER THE GROWING SEASON DEPENDING ON HOW THINGS GO THIS YEAR. [1:05:22] **Katie Cashman**: HAPPY TO SUPPORT THIS MOTION AND THANKS FOR YOUR WORK ON IT. [1:05:28] **Linea Palmisano**: THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER CHOWDHURY, FOR YOUR EFFORTS. AS YOU KNOW, I HAVE BEEN HELPFUL IN CRAFTING THIS, BUT I WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING THIS AMENDMENT. AND I WANTED TO EXPLAIN WHY. [1:05:38] **Linea Palmisano**: WE HAVE HAD HEARD FROM CITY STAFF OVER AND OVER AGAIN ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF HAVING A PERMIT FOR SAFETY AND ACCESS AND CURBSIDE USES AND INSURANCE PURPOSES. I FEEL THIS AMOUNT ATTEMPTS TO PUT CONDITIONS ON RAISED PLANTER BEDS AND THEN NO LONGER REQUIRE A PERMIT. [1:05:55] **Linea Palmisano**: WHAT GOOD DOES IT DO TO SAY RAISED PLANTING BEDS SHALL COMPLY WITH THE MINNESOTA STATE FIRE CODE AND NOT IMPEDE EMERGENCY VEHICLE ACCESS WHEN A GARDENER HAS NOT BEEN REQUIRED TO HAVE THAT PLAN REVIEWED FOR THE CONFLICT IN THE FIRST PLACE. [1:06:10] **Linea Palmisano**: I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD REQUIRE LOCAL GARDENERS TO KNOW THE STATE FIRE CODE. I FEEL LIKE IF WE'RE HONEST, ALL THIS DOES IS GIVE THE CITY THE GROUNDS FOR ENFORCEMENT AS WE GIVE AWAY CONTROL OF OUR CITY RIGHT-OF-WAY. I DON'T WANT RESIDENTS' INTERACTION WITH OUR CITY TO HAVE TO BE ON THE ENFORCEMENT SIDE. [1:06:30] **Linea Palmisano**: THERE NO GUARDRAILS TO KEEP PEOPLE FROM PUTTING IN RAISED PLANTER BEDS WHEREVER THEY WANT. AND WHAT IS TO KEEP A PROPERTY OWNER AND I WANT TO GARDEN AND I DON'T WANT TO PUT IT IN MY PRIVATE YARD AND PLANTER BOXES ARE ALWAYS ALLOWED IN THE PRIVATE YARDS OR BOULEVARD. [1:06:50] **Linea Palmisano**: I WILL PUT IT IN MY NEIGHBOR'S BOULEVARD. THIS AMENDMENT WOULD ALLOW FOR THAT. IF YOU THINK THAT SOUNDS RIDICULOUS, STEVE BRANDT, A PUBLIC FIGURE, IS A HUMOROUS EXAMPLE OF SOMEBODY PARTICULARLY ENTHUSIASTIC ABOUT PLANTING UP OTHER PEOPLE'S BOULEVARDS. [1:07:06] **Linea Palmisano**: HE'S DONE THIS AROUND HIS HOUSE AND IN FRONT OF BUSINESSES AND UNFORTUNATELY, WE NEED TO HAVE PLANS WHEN WE HAVE THESE THINGS TO TAKE CARE OF IT OVER TIME TO SEE WHO IS GOING TO CARE FOR THIS AND WHO IS GOING TO MANAGE THIS AND MAKE SURE THAT THERE ISN'T — THERE ISN'T GARBAGE IN IT AND TO CLEAN IT OUT FROM TIME TO TIME. [1:07:27] **Linea Palmisano**: WHAT IS TO KEEP A RENTER FROM PUTTING IN A RAISED PLANTER BED AT THE SITE OF THE RENTAL OR ANYWHERE AND MOVING AWAY? WHO IS GOING TO MAINTAIN THAT STRUCTURE AND WHAT HAPPENS IF IT FALLS INTO DISREPAIR? THE LIABILITY SITS WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER. [1:07:45] **Linea Palmisano**: WHEN IT FALLS TO DISREPAIR, THE CITY WILL TAKE COLLECTIVE ACTION AND ASSESS THE PROPERTY OWNER, NOT THE RENTER, NOT THE NEIGHBOR THAT PUT IT THERE, AND WE TALK A LOT ABOUT EQUITY AND WE WORK REALLY HARD FOR MATTERS OF EQUITY AROUND HERE, BUT HOW IS THAT EQUITABLE? I JUST DON'T — I CAN'T SUPPORT THIS AMENDMENT. [1:08:05] **Linea Palmisano**: I DON'T FEEL THAT IT IS EQUITABLE. I THINK THAT THIS UNFAIRLY PUTS THE BURDEN OF FUTURE PLANTER BED, EXISTING PLANTER BEDS ON PEOPLE WHO NEVER PUT THEM THERE. [1:08:14] **Aurin Chowdhury**: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER PALMISANO, FOR YOUR PERSPECTIVE. I JUST WANT TO TAKE A SECOND FOR APPRECIATION ON HOW JUST LIKE CITY SPECIFIC THIS ISSUE IS AND PARKS AND REC SEEING IT IN NATURE IS KIND OF FUN TO FOCUS IN ON SOMETHING LIKE THIS. [1:08:37] **Aurin Chowdhury**: AND I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS. I DISAGREE WITH THEM. I THINK THIS IS A MATTER OF — IT'S GOING TO BE A MATTER OF HOW COUNCIL MEMBERS WANT TO VOTE ON THIS ISSUE. WHERE I'M LANDING IS I FEEL LIKE A $50 IS REALLY PROHIBITIVE FOR MANY INDIVIDUALS TO EVEN GET A RAISED PLANTER BED, ESPECIALLY IF THEY ARE TRYING TO PUT THE MONEY INTO GARDENING AND PEOPLE DOING EDIBLE BOULEVARD WORKS ARE DOING FRESH, AND THAT IS THE WORK HAPPENING HERE AND IS PROHIBITIVE TO HAVE A PERMIT PROCESS ON A RAISED BED THAT DIDN'T EXIST BEFORE AND REQUIRE PROOF OF INSURANCE AND PUTTING THIS ON THE PROPERTY OWNER'S INSURANCE. [1:09:24] **Aurin Chowdhury**: AND THE LOCAL BUSINESS, WHICH THEY DO EXIST THAT ARE WORKING WITH PROPERTY OWNERS, TO DO PLANTER BED IN THE BOULEVARD, THIS DETERS THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS FOR BEING A PART OF THE PROCESS. THAT IS SOMETHING A LOCAL BUSINESS IN MY WARD HAS SHARED WITH ME. THE COMPLIANTS AND MEMBERS ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THIS AND WORRIED THEY DON'T WANT TO PARTICIPATE IN IT. AND THIS CUTS OUT RENTERS. AS A RENTER MYSELF, A REALLY GOOD RENT E AND KEEP IN TOUCH WITH MY PROPERTY MANAGER. [1:10:01] **Aurin Chowdhury**: I TALK TO FOLKS BUT I DO KNOW THAT IT WOULD BE A VERY STEEP CLIMB FOR THEM TO SAY WE CAN DO A PLANTER BED, PUT IT ON THE INSURANCE AND SIGN OFF ON THIS THING. I COULD APPROPRIATE GET AN AGREEMENT WITH THEM AS A NEIGHBOR SAYING THIS WOULD BENEFIT THE COMMUNITY. [1:10:18] **Aurin Chowdhury**: THAT IS WHAT I WOULD ENCOURAGE. AND RENTERS AREN'T THE ONLY ONES WHEN THEY MOVE THAT ARE ALL OF A SUDDEN LEAVING PLANTER BEDS. I THINK A RENTER PERSONALLY BECAUSE OF THE COST OF IT WOULD PROBABLY WANT TO TAKE WIT THEM TO THE NEXT SPOT. WE ALSO KNOW THAT THIS DOESN'T PRECLUDE HOMEOWNERS THAT DECIDE TO SELL THEIR HOME AND GO TO THE NEXT HOUSE. [1:10:43] **Aurin Chowdhury**: THEY ALSO COULD LEAD A PLANNER BED AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S A RENTER SPECIFIC THING. AND THE PLACE THAT I'VE LANDED IS, I THINK, A PERMIT AND FEE WOULD BE OVERLY PROHIBITED. WE WOULD LOSE A LOT OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE CURRENTLY DOING GARDENING. IT IS WISE FOR US WITH THE 311 COMPLAINTS WE GET THE NEXT GROWING SEASON. AND BASED OFF THAT DATA TO DETERMINE WHAT ARE THE ISSUES THAT WE'RE SEEING WITH RAISED BEDS. AND I WILL JUST NOTE FOR MY COLLEAGUES THESE RESTRICTIONS ARE IN LINE WITH WHAT IS IN THE ORDINANCE WHEN IT COMES TO HEIGHT RESTRICTIONS AND SIGHT LINES FOR JUST THE HEIGHT OF VEGETATION IN CERTAIN SPOTS. [1:10:58] **Aurin Chowdhury**: WITH THAT I ASK MY COLLEAGUES FOR THEIR SUPPORT ON THIS MOTION. [1:11:32] **Elliott Payne**: SEEING NO ONE ELSE IN QUEUE, I WILL ASK THE CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL ON THE CHOWDHURY AMENDMENT. [1:11:37] **Casey Carl**: COUNCIL MEMBER OSMAN, AYE. [1:11:40] **Casey Carl**: RAINVILLE AYE. CHAVEZ AYE. VETAW NO. ELLISON AYE. KOSKI AYE. WONSLEY AYE. JENKINS NAY. PALMISANO NO. CHOWDHURY AYE. [1:11:56] **Casey Carl**: CASHMAN AYE. VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI AN IS ABSENT. PRESIDENT PAYNE, AYE. [1:12:04] **Casey Carl**: THERE ARE NINE AYES AND THREE NAYS. [1:12:08] **Elliott Payne**: THAT CARRIES AND THAT AMENDMENT HAS BEEN ADOPTED. NEXT I WILL RECOGNIZE COUNCIL MEMBER CASHMAN. [1:12:12] **Katie Cashman**: OKAY. THANK YOU, PRESIDENT PAYNE. SO COLLEAGUES, THERE IS ALSO ANOTHER COUPLE OF AMENDMENTS IN FRONT OF YOU. JUST REALLY WANT TO THANK GRACE FROM HOMEGROWN AND DON AND THE TEAM FROM PUBLIC WORKS FOR WORKING WITH ME ON THIS LANGUAGE DIRECTLY IN RESPONSE TO FEEDBACK THAT WE GOT FROM COMMUNITY MEMBERS. [1:12:33] **Katie Cashman**: THE FIRST ONE IS JUST TRIKING THE WORD "WEED" BECAUSE THERE WAS A LOT OF CONFUSION ABOUT WHAT IS THE WORD WEED. AND NOW THIS WILL SAY THE GROWING AND PLANTING OF ANY PLANT WITH THORNS, SPINES OR SHARP RIDGED PARTS OR SIMILAR NOXIOUS WEEDS IS PROHIBITED. [1:12:52] **Katie Cashman**: THIS CLARIFIES THAT THORNY PLANTS ARE NOT GOING TO BE ALLOWED. AND NOXIOUS WEEDS LIKE STINGING NETTLE, FOR EXAMPLE, WILL NOT BE ALLOWED. SO WE'RE NOT TRYING TO DECIDE EXACTLY WHAT A WEED IS AND ISN'T HERE, BUT JUST DECLARING WHICH PLANTS ARE NOT GOING TO BE ALLOWED TO BE GROWN IN THE PUBLIC RIGHT AWAY. [1:13:14] **Katie Cashman**: AND THE SECOND AMENDMENT IS A RESULT OF SOME QUESTIONS THAT WE HAD ABOUT WHERE WE COULD SOURCE THE MOST THAT WE WERE SUGGESTING TO USE AND THE SEARCH TURNED UP NOT WITH ANY MINNEAPOLIS STORES BEING ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT. [1:13:32] **Katie Cashman**: AND SO IN ORDER TO BE MORE INCLUSIVE OF MINNEAPOLIS STORES LIKE WISE ACRES AND OTHER SIMILAR GARDENING STORES IN MINNEAPOLIS, THIS AMENDMENT STATES THAT NATURAL DOUBLE GROUND OR DOUBLE SHREDDED HARDWOOD MULCH IS ALLOWED TO COVER THE GROUND BETWEEN VEGETATION CLUSTERS FOR UP TO 6 FEET MEASURED PARALLEL TO THE CURB OR PATHWAY WITHOUT A PERMIT. [1:13:58] **Katie Cashman**: THIS IS ALSO IN RESPONSE TO GARDENERS WHO WERE WONDERING IF YOU ARE REQUIRING THIS TYPE OF MULCH BUT NOT SURE WHERE TO GET IT. THIS CLARIFIES THAT AND CONFIRMS THAT BUSINESSES HERE IN MINNEAPOLIS THAT ARE CLOSE TO US ARE PROVIDING THIS PRODUCT AND IT WILL BE AK SESFUL. [1:14:14] **Katie Cashman**: AND THE WHOLE MULCH ISSUE IS TO INSURE THAT WE'RE NOT CLOGGING UP OUR STORM WATER DRAINS OR POLLUTING OUR WATER WITH TOXIC OR OTHERWISE NOT HEALTHY MULCH TYPES. SO ASK FOR COLLEAGUE SUPPORT WITH BOTH OF THE AMENDMENTS AS WELL. [1:14:33] **Elliott Payne**: COUNCIL MEMBER CASHMAN HAS MOVED AN AMENDMENT. IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND IT. COUNCIL MEMBER JENKINS. [1:14:48] **Andrea Jenkins**: THANK YOU, PRESIDENT PAYNE. I GUESS I'M CURIOUS AS TO WHO WILL — WHO WILL OVERSEE WHETHER PEOPLE ARE PLANTING WEEDS OR USING THE RIGHT MULCH LIKE HOW WILL WE KNOW THAT AND WHO ARE WE TALKING TO ABOUT IT? WE DON'T HAVE PERMITS NOW. [1:15:08] **Andrea Jenkins**: SO HOW ARE WE GOING TO ENFORCE IF SOMEBODY PLANTS WEEDS OR THORNY BUSHES AND ALL THOSE THINGS? [1:15:16] **Katie Cashman**: REALLY GOOD QUESTION. THIS WILL BE ENFORCED BY 311 COMPLAINT. SO IF YOU ARE A NEIGHBOR AND YOU ARE WALKING DOWN THE SIDEWALK WITH A THORNY BUSH OR OTHERWISE NOXIOUS WEED, YOU ARE WELCOME TO MAKE A 311 COMPLAINT ROUTED TO THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT AND PUBLIC WORKS TO DECIDE HOW TO ENFORCE IT. [1:15:45] **Katie Cashman**: JUST LIKE ANY OTHER OBSTRUCTION. [1:15:48] **Andrea Jenkins**: WE ARE RELYING ON NEIGHBORS TO HAVE KNOWLEDGE OF PLANT LIFE, ETC., TO BE ABLE TO THEN REPORT IT TO 311. [1:16:08] **Elliott Payne**: ONE THING I APPRECIATED IS JEFF I.D. EARLIER IN THE WEEK IS IF IT'S NOT A PROBLEM, IT'S NOT A PROBLEM. THIS WON'T BE ENFORCED UNLESS THERE IS AN ISSUE. AND IF THERE IS AN ISSUE, WE HAVE ENFORCEMENT MECHANISMS. [1:16:26] **Andrea Jenkins**: AND SO THEY WILL ALSO DETERMINE WHETHER IT'S DOUBLE SHREDDED MULCH, ETC.? [1:16:34] **Katie Cashman**: THE HOMEGROWN DEPARTMENT WILL BE CREATING WITH PUBLIC WOESH WORKS A USER GUIDE THAT WILL BE COMING OUT SOON TO GIVE ALL THIS ADVICE TO PEOPLE WHO WANT TO PLANT IN THE BOULEVARD AND LISTED AND THE CITY WEBSITE. [1:16:53] **Katie Cashman**: THIS IS ADVICE. THIS IS THE TYPE OF MULCH WE ARE ADVISING IN OUR ORDINANCE THAT PEOPLE USE. THAT CAN BE ENFORCED BUT 311 COMPLAINT OR OTHER WOODCHIPS. [1:17:09] **Andrea Jenkins**: I HAVE TO SAY, I HATE TO DISPARAGE, BUT THAT SOUND RIDICULOUS TO ME HONESTLY. [1:17:21] **Katie Cashman**: I UNDERSTAND THIS IS A VERY SPECIFIC LANGUAGE AND AGAIN, WE'RE BEING RESPONSIVE TO THE EXPERTS IN OUR COMMUNITY WHO BROUGHT UP THIS CONCERN WITH US THAT OUR EXPERT BOULEVARD GARDENERS AND WANT TO DO IT IN THE BEST AND MOST ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY WAY. [1:17:38] **Linea Palmisano**: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. AS THE AUTHOR, I WASN'T MADE AWARE THIS AMENDMENT WAS BEING BROUGHT FORWARD, BUT I DO APPRECIATE WE ARE GOING TO STAP BEING PARALYZED BY BOULEVARDS AFTER TODAY. SO THANK YOU FOR DOING THE WORK REALTIME. [1:17:54] **Linea Palmisano**: I AM UNCLEAR ON THIS AS WELL. BY REMOVING THE WORD WEED, DOES THIS REMOVE THE ABILITY TO PLANT FRUIT BUSHES LIKE RASPBERRIES OR ROSE BUSHES? I'M SORRY I HAVE TO ASK THIS HERE RIGHT NOW, BUT IT IS THE FIRST TIME I AM SEEING IT. [1:18:09] **Katie Cashman**: I WILL ACTUALLY ASK IF GRACE WANTS TO COME UP AND ANSWER THAT QUESTION. I AM PRETTY SURE THAT FRUIT BUSHES WITH THORNS IS WHAT WE ARE SAYING IS NOT ALLOWED, BUT I DON'T THINK RASPBERRIES O THORNY PER SE. SO I THINK THEY ARE STILL ALLOWED. [1:18:32] **Katie Cashman**: I WILL DEFER TO GRACE ON THIS QUESTION. [1:18:35] **Elliott Payne**: PLEASE START BY INTRODUCING YOURSELF. [1:18:38] **Grace Rude**: HELLO, COUNCIL. CHAIR PAYNE AND COUNCIL MEMBER PALMISANO, MY GAME IS GRACE RUDE WITH THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT ON THE HOMEGROWN TEAM. THIS HAS BEEN PART OF THE ORDINANCE SINCE IT WAS INTRODUCED. [1:18:48] **Grace Rude**: YOU ARE CORRECT. IT WOULD NOT ALLOW THINGS WITH SHARP THINGS SIMILAR TO SAFETY PURPOSES AND MAKING SURE WE DON'T HAVE THINGS THAT ARE BLOCKING PASSAGE IN THE BOULEVARD AND HAVE FREE ACCESS BETWEEN THINGS. [1:19:04] **Grace Rude**: THERE ARE THORNLESS RASPBERRY VARIETIES AND FRUIT SHRUBS THAT ARE NOT SHARP AND POINTY IF THAT HELPS. WE WILL BE PROVIDING GUIDANCE ON THE KINDS OF THINGS YOU MIGHT WANT TO PLANT IN THE GUIDANCE DOCUMENT. [1:19:20] **Linea Palmisano**: THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER CASHMAN, I KNOW ONE OF OUR CONCERNS, OUR JOINT CONCERNS, IS WHAT PEOPLE ALREADY HAVE THINGS GOING AND THRIVING IN BOULEVARDS, OF WHICH RASPBERRIES ARE IN OUR CITY'S BOULEVARDS. [1:19:33] **Linea Palmisano**: ANDS NO NECESSARILY SOME SPECIAL VARIETY THAT DOESN'T HAVE THORNS. MY OTHER QUESTION, AND IT MIGHT BE FOR MS. RUDE OR PUBLIC WORKS, IS F1 NEW OR JUST EXPLAINED FROM ORDINANCES? HOW IS IT DIFFERENT, YOUR CHANGES FOR F1? [1:19:56] **Aurin Chowdhury**: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I JUST WANTED TO JUMP IN HERE AND SAY THIS WAS SUBMITTED AS LANGUAGE FROM DIRECTOR TIM SEXTON IN THE MEMO TO US. [1:20:11] **Aurin Chowdhury**: SO IF HE IS AVAILABLE. I FEEL LIKE HE IS THE BEST PERSON TO TAKE ON THIS QUESTION OR DONNELLWOOD. I SEE HIM COMING UP HERE. [1:20:31] **Don Elwood**: PRESIDENT PAYNE, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, MY NAME IS DONNELLWOOD. I AM THE DIRECTOR OF TRANSPORTATION, ENGINEERING AND DESIGN. — I AM DON ELWOOD. I WANT TO UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION. IT IS WHERE TO INSERT THAT SPECIFIC LANGUAGE INTO THE ORDINANCE? WHERE DID THE LANGUAGE COME FROM? [1:20:49] **Linea Palmisano**: I GUESS, MR. CHAIR, MR. DIRECTOR ELWOOD, MY QUESTION IS ABOUT, IS THIS RESTATED FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE IN THE ORDINANCE? OR ARE WE PUTTING IT IN THERE FOR THE FIRST TIME? BECAUSE AS COUNCIL MEMBER CHOWDHURY SAID, SHE WANTED TO KIND OF EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT DIFFERENT TYPES OF MULCH OR CAN YOU JUST EXPLAIN WHY WE ARE ADDING THIS INTO THE ORDINANCE HERE TODAY? [1:21:15] **Don Elwood**: COUNCIL PRESIDENT PAYNE, COUNCIL MEMBER PALMISANO, THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT QUESTION. IN THE ORIGINAL MODIFICATION TO THE ORDINANCE, WE SPECIFIED SHREDDED HARDWOOD, DOUBLE SHREDDED HARDWOOD BARK MULCH. I HAVE SAID THAT SO MANY TIMES NOW IT FEELS LIKE ONE SINGLE WORD. [1:21:39] **Don Elwood**: WE ARE TRYING TO INSERT INTO THE ORDINANCE AND THAT IS HARDER TO SOURCE AND MAKES THAT A BURDEN FOR OUR RESIDENTS. AND BY MAKING THIS AMENDMENT IT REPLACES THAT DOUBLE SHREDDED HARDWOOD BARK MULCH WITH THIS LANGUAGE. [1:21:57] **Don Elwood**: I BELIEVE THAT GETS INSERTED INTO 1F, I BELIEVE IT IS. I WILL MAKE SURE IT GETS INTO THE CORRECT LOCATION. IT REPLACES THE DOUBLE SHREDDED HARDWOOD BARK MULCH WITH THIS LANGUAGE THAT ALLOWS OUR RESIDENTS TO GET AT THAT PRODUCT EASIER, MORE LOCALLY. [1:22:17] **Don Elwood**: WHETHER IT COULD BE A LOCAL HARDWARE STORE WOULD HAVE THE POTENTIAL TO CARRY THAT PRODUCT. [1:22:25] **Linea Palmisano**: THANK YOU. I THINK THAT EXPLAINS IT AS BEST WE CAN EXPLAIN IT, DIRECTOR ELWOOD. YOU SEEM TO BE THE EXPERT ON THIS NOW, SO CONGRATULATIONS ON THAT. [1:22:39] **Linea Palmisano**: THE WEED PIECE OF THIS WILL PRECLUDE MY ABILITY TO VOTE FOR THIS. AND AGAIN, BECAUSE I THINK ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT PIECES THAT WE HAVE WRESTLED WITH THROUGHOUT THE DELAYS ON THIS HAVE BEEN ABOUT THE FEES. [1:22:55] **Linea Palmisano**: I HAD A PROPOSAL READY TO DEAL WITH FEES. STAFF HAD FOUND A WAY TO ELIMINATE PERMIT FEES FOR RAISED BEDS IN GREEN ZONES. I WOULD HAVE BROUGHT LANGUAGE THAT WOULD HAVE WAIVED FEES FOR TWO YEARS FOR RAISED BEDS IN ALL AREAS. SO THE FIRST PROPOSAL ELIMINATED THAT AND CHANGED THAT. [1:23:12] **Linea Palmisano**: I DON'T REALLY THINK PEOPLE GO AROUND PLANTING STINGING NETTLES. I THINK THAT'S JUST A WEED THAT HAPPENS IN OUR BOULEVARDS SOMETIMES. AGAIN, THIS FEELS — I JUST FEEL LIKE WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS ENOUGH THAT WE DON'T REALLY WANT TO ELIMINATE THIS LANGUAGE. THANK YOU. [1:23:33] **Casey Carl**: MR. PRESIDENT? UNASKED, BUT I THOUGHT THAT I WOULD OFFER A LITTLE KNOWN FACT UNDER STATE LAW THE MAYOR HAS DESIGNATED THE NOXIOUS WEED INSPECTOR FOR THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS. AND THAT IS A DUTY HE ASSIGNS TO CERTAIN STAFF. I USED TO KNOW WHO WERE THE ASSISTANT NOXIOUS WEED INSPECTORS, SO IT IS A GOOD DEAL WE ARE RETAINING THE LEGAL DEFINITION OF NOXIOUS WEED BECAUSE THERE IS A STATUTORY PROVISION THAT IDENTIFIES WHAT WEEDS ARE CONSIDERED NOXIOUS AND THE DUTIES OF INSPECTORS AT THE COUNTY AND LOCAL LEVEL TO MAINTAIN A CONSTANT SURVEY OF THE LAND WITHIN THEIR JURISDICTION TO MAKE SURE NOXIOUS WEEDS ARE DEALT WITH AND ERADICATED. [1:24:07] **Casey Carl**: THE ISSUE, I THINK, WAS RAISED EARLIER BY COUNCIL MEMBER JENKINS ABOUT WHO IS GOING TO BE DOING THAT INSPECTION? HOW WILL WE KNOW? THERE IS A PROCESS IN THE STATE LAW THAT REQUIRES FOR THE REMEMBER INSPECTION FOR NOXIOUS WEEDS AND THEIR ERADICATION. [1:24:31] **Aurin Chowdhury**: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. THE ONE THING THAT I AM — I WAS GOING TO STATE THAT WE HAD MEETINGS ASKING ABOUT THOSE RASPBERRY BUSHES AND THE ROSE BUSHES. OUR PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT AND STAFF SAID THOSE WOULD BE ALLOWABLE, SO I WANT TO CLEAR THE RECORD ON THAT. [1:24:46] **Aurin Chowdhury**: IT IS ABOUT HARMFUL PLANTINGS THAT ARE PLANTED LIKE BUCK THORN THAT PEOPLE CAN GET HURT ON. AND I WOULD ASK, MR. ELWOOD, BRING YOU UP ONE MORE TIME AND JUST FOR THE RECORD STATE THAT RESIDENTS IN THE CITY OF THE MINNEAPOLIS WILL BE ABLE TO CONTINUE TO PLANT RASPBERRY BUSHES AND KEEP THE ROSE BUSHES. [1:25:10] **Aurin Chowdhury**: I REMEMBER WE HAD A DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS. MR. ELWOOD? [1:25:20] **Don Elwood**: COUNCIL PRESIDENT PAYNE, COUNCIL MEMBER CHOWDHURY, THANKS FOR THAT QUESTION. YES, SIMPLE ANSWER IS YES. WE WILL BE ABLE TO PLANT THOSE. IN OUR BOULEVARD. WE WILL ADDRESS MANY OF THOSE ITEMS WITH THE USER GUIDE. [1:25:46] **Don Elwood**: EARLIER WE MENTIONED I TRY TO KEEP IN MIND WHAT THE OVERALL OBJECTIVE IS WITH WHY WE'RE MAKING THESE CHANGES. THE OBJECTIVE IS TO ALLOW OUR RESIDENTS TO PLANT FOOD IN THE BOULEVARD. AND I THINK THIS ACHIEVES THAT OBJECTIVE. [1:26:02] **Don Elwood**: SO YES, THOSE RASPBERRY BUSHES WOULD BE ALLOWED. [1:26:07] **Elliott Payne**: THANK YOU. I THINK THE LANGUAGE THAT CLARIFIES THAT JUST IN CONFERRING WITH OUR CITY ATTORNEY IS SIMILAR NOXIOUS WEEDS, SO THE NOXIOUS CONTEXT OF A THORNY PLANT. C.A.O., DID YOU WANT TO CLARIFY THAT? THROUGH THE CHAIR? [1:26:30] **Kristyn Anderson**: WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING IS THE INTERPRETIVE INTENT OF THAT IS THE LIST, PLANTS WITH THORNS, SPINES ARE SHARPER RIDGE PARTS. [1:26:42] **Kristyn Anderson**: WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO GET TO WHEN YOU SAY OR SIMILAR NOXIOUS WEEDS IS THAT THAT WHOLE LIST BEFORE ARE INTENDED TO BE EXAMPLES THAT WOULD BE REGULATED IF THEY ARE CLASSIFIED AS NOXIOUS WEEDS. IS THAT WHAT THE INTENT IS? [1:26:59] **Don Elwood**: COUNCIL PRESIDENT PAYNE, THAT IS CORRECT. [1:27:03] **Elliott Payne**: IT IS IMPORTANT TO GET THAT LEGISLATIVE INTENT ON THE RECORD IF THERE IS — THERE ARE WAYS THIS WOULD BE WRITTEN MORE CLEARLY. [1:27:20] **Elliott Payne**: BUT IT IS IMPORTANT TO ARTICULATE FOR THIS BODY THAT THAT IS WHAT THE INTENT IS OF THAT LANGUAGE THAT IN ORDER TO FALL INTO A WEED AND ALL OF THESE THINGS ARE NOXIOUS WEEDS IS THE CLASSIFICATION AND THESE ARE EXAMPLES OF NOXIOUS WEEDS. [1:27:41] **Elliott Payne**: AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE LEGISLATIVE INTENT IS, BUT THAT'S WHAT I THINK I AM UNDERSTANDING. [1:27:46] **Katie Cashman**: I WILL STATE FOR THE RECORD, YES, THAT IS THE LEGISLATIVE INTENT IS THOSE TYPES OF NOXIOUS WEEDS, NOT THE RASPBERRY BUSHES AND ROSE BUSHES THAT OUR CITIZENS ENJOY, COLLEAGUE, WE ARE TRYING TO GET THIS ONE TODAY SO WE DON'T HAVE TO GO TO ANOTHER COMMITTEE, SO APPRECIATE THE PATIENCE AND DISCUSSION. [1:28:05] **Katie Cashman**: THE LAST THING THAT I WILL JUST SAY IS THE STATUS QUO HAS BEEN AND ALWAYS WILL CONTINUE TO BE ENFORCEMENT IS THROUGH 311 COMPLAINT. THE GOAL OF THIS ORDINANCE IS TO EDUCATE COMMUNITY MEMBERS, EXPAND PEOPLE'S ABILITIES TO GARDEN WITHIN THEIR BOULEVARDS, EDIBLE BOULEVARDS, AND FOR OUR GARDENERS WHO ARE PAYING ATTENTION TO THIS TO MODEL THIS TYPE OF WORK. [1:28:38] **Katie Cashman**: THE DOUBLE SHREDDED HARDWOOD MULCH IS AS MUCH TO MAKE SURE THE CATCH BASINS AREN'T CLOGGED. AND SO EVEN WITHOUT THIS PROVISION, WE ALWAYS KNEW THE THINGS WE WERE PUTTING IN WERE ONLY GOING TO BE ENFORCED BY 311 COMPLAINT. I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT IN FOR THE RECORD. THAT WILL BE MY LAST COMMENT ON BOULEVARDS. [1:29:05] **Katie Cashman**: I WANTED TO FOR ANYONE TUNING IN OR HAVING MORE QUESTIONS, WE WILL BE HOSTING AN EVENT COMMUNITY MEETING THIS WEEKEND ON SUNDAY IN THE BRYN MAWR NEIGHBORHOOD. [1:29:14] **Katie Cashman**: STAFF FROM HOMEGROWN WILL BE THERE TO PRESENT, ANSWER QUESTIONS, AND IT IS GOING TO BE A 12 NOON AT MODERN WELL IN BRYN MAWR AND EVERYONE IS WELCOME. [1:29:26] **Linea Palmisano**: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. LOOK, LET'S MOVE FORWARD. PUBLIC WORKS SEEMS OKAY WITH THIS. THE CITY ATTORNEY HAS CLARIFIED THIS IN A WAY THAT I BELIEVE IS OKAY. I THINK THE GUIDELINES BROCHURE THAT PUBLIC WORKS HAS BEEN WORKING SO DILIGENTLY ON WILL HELP AS WE MOVE FORWARD AND PROVIDE GUIDANCE TO PEOPLE WHO ARE MUCH BETTER GARDENERS THAN I OR ELSEWHERE. [1:29:54] **Linea Palmisano**: I DID — I COULDN'T HELP BUT POINT OUT JUST HOW SURPRISING IT IS TO ME THAT OUR CITY CLERK KNOWS ESOTERIC TRIVIA THAT THE MAYOR IS THE NOXIOUS WEED INSPECTOR BUT WE WOULDN'T WANT TO TAKE THAT ROLE AWAY FROM HIM. [1:30:14] **Linea Palmisano**: I WOULD URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO SUPPORT THIS AND MOVE FORWARD. THANK YOU. [1:30:21] **Elliott Payne**: WITH THAT, I WILL ASK THE CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL ON THE CASHMAN AMENDMENT. [1:30:26] **Casey Carl**: OSMAN AYE. RAINVILLE AYE. CHAVEZ AYE. VETAW AYE. [1:30:29] **Casey Carl**: ELLISON AYE. KOSKI AYE. WONSLEY AYE. JENKINS AYE. PALMISANO AYE. CHOWDHURY AYE. CASHMAN AYE. VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI, AYE. PRESIDENT PAYNE, AYE. THERE ARE 13 AYES. [1:30:45] **Elliott Payne**: THAT CARRIES AND THAT AMENDMENT IS ADOPTED. FINALLY, WE WILL TAKE UP THE UNDERLYING ORDINANCE AS AMENDED ALONG WITH THE PALMISANO LEGISLATIVE DIRECTIVE. COUNCIL MEMBER PALMISANO. [1:31:00] **Linea Palmisano**: WILL CHAIR, I HAD ALREADY SPOKEN ABOUT THAT, BUT IT IS A SIMPLE LEGISLATIVE DIRECTIVE TO TRACK THE ACTUAL COST FOR IMPLEMENTING, ENFORCING AND MANAGING THE REVISED BOULEVARD ORDINANCE. [1:31:08] **Linea Palmisano**: I HAD PLANNED TO DO THIS EVEN BEFORE THE CHANGE MADE TODAY, AND IT'S STILL PERTINENT. I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT FOR US TO UNDERSTAND. PERMIT OR NO PERMIT, THE COST OF THIS CHANGE. AND I PURPOSELY MADE THIS LONGER TERM. TWO FULL SORT OF GROWING, PLANTING SEASONS SO THAT WE CAN REALLY ASSESS THE IMPACT. THANK YOU. [1:31:33] **Elliott Payne**: WITH THAT, I WILL ASK THE CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL ON THE ORDINANCE AS AMENDED AS WELL AS THE LEGISLATIVE DIRECTIVE. [1:31:38] **Casey Carl**: COUNCIL MEMBER OSMAN, AYE. RAINVILLE AYE. CHAVEZ AYE. VETAW AYE. ELLISON AYE. KOSKI AYE. [1:31:44] **Casey Carl**: WONSLEY AYE. JENKINS AYE. PALMISANO AYE. CHOWDHURY AYE. CASHMAN AYE. VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI, AYE. PRESIDENT PAYNE, AYE. [1:32:00] **Casey Carl**: THERE ARE 13 AYES. [1:32:02] **Elliott Payne**: THAT PASSES AND BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA, I WANTED TO ASK IF COUNCIL MEMBER WONSLEY WANTED HER VOTE RECORDED FOR THE C&I CONSENT ITEMS AS WELL AS ITEMS 1, 2, AND 3. [1:32:16] **Robin Wonsley**: THAT IS CORRECT, YES. [1:32:19] **Elliott Payne**: WITHOUT OBJECTION, MR. CLERK. [1:32:21] **Casey Carl**: BEFORE WE JUST SAY WITHOUT OBJECTION, ON THE C&I, I AM ASSUMING THAT IS AN AYE? [1:32:25] **Robin Wonsley**: YES, THAT IS AN AYE. [1:32:27] **Casey Carl**: ON COUNT ONE, IS THAT AN AYE OR NAY? [1:32:28] **Robin Wonsley**: AYE. [1:32:30] **Casey Carl**: AND THEN COUNT TWO AND THREE IS AN AYE? [1:32:32] **Robin Wonsley**: YES, AYE. [1:32:34] **Casey Carl**: THANK YOU. [1:32:36] **Elliott Payne**: NEXT WE WILL TAKE UP ITEM NUMBER FIVE ON THE CALENDAR. IS THERES ANY DUS CUSHION? SEEING NONE, I ASK THE CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL. [1:32:51] **Casey Carl**: COUNCIL MEMBER OSMAN, AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER RAINVILLE, AYE. CHAVEZ AYE. VETAW AYE. ELLISON AYE. KOSKI AYE. [1:32:59] **Casey Carl**: WONSLEY AYE. JENKINS AYE. PALMISANO NO. CHOWDHURY AYE. CASHMAN AYE. VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI, AYE. PRESIDENT PAYNE, AYE. [1:33:14] **Casey Carl**: THERE ARE 12 AYES AND ONE NAY. [1:33:15] **Elliott Payne**: THAT CARRIES AND FINALLY WE HAVE ITEM 6 AND 7. THIS WAS FORWARDED FROM C.O.W. WITHOUT RECOMMENDATION. I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO REFER THIS BACK TO C.O.W. WE HAD EXTENSIVE DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM. ONE OF THE POINTS OF CONTENTION WAS THE STATE OF THE CONTRACT AND WHETHER IT WAS FINALIZED. [1:33:34] **Elliott Payne**: I HAVE TWO ISSUES THAT I WOULD LIKE TO BE ADDRESSED BY THE TIME WE COME BACK TO THE PHOTOVOET ON THAT IN C.O.W. I WOULD LIKE THAT CONTRACT TO BE FINALIZED WITH THE LANGUAGE READY TO BE SIGNED, WHATEVER THE TERMS ARE AND THE RETURNS TO INCLUDE OUTCOMES. [1:33:50] **Elliott Payne**: WHAT ARE THE OUTCOMES, NOT THE DATA MEASURING FROM THE VENDORS BUT THE OUTCOMES TO HOLD THIS INSTITUTION TO AS IT RELATES TO SUCCESS AND EFFECTIVENESS OF THE PROGRAM. I WOULD LIKE CONCRETE INFORMATION IN THE R.C.A. [1:34:06] **Elliott Payne**: WHETHER THAT IS A COLLABORATION WITH PROCUREMENT AND O.C.S. OR OTHERWISE. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE DETAILS BEFORE WE TAKE THAT ITEM UP AND IE WOULD BE HAPPY TO APPROVE IT ONCE WE HAVE THAT LEVEL OF DETAIL. I WANT TO THANK DIRECTOR LAKES FOR THE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION WE DID REQUEST. [1:34:22] **Elliott Payne**: AGAIN, THAT INFORMATION WAS VERY GROUNDED IN THE DATA THAT WE'RE RECEIVING FROM VENDORS AND WHAT ARE THE OUTCOMES WERE HOLDING OURSELVES ACCOUNT TO BELIEVE AS AN ADMINISTRATION AS IT RELATES TO THE EFFECTIVENESS OF THAT CONTRACT. IF THERE IS A SECOND FOR THAT. [1:34:39] **Robin Wonsley**: SECOND. [1:34:41] **Elliott Payne**: IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? COUNCIL MEMBER JENKINS? [1:34:45] **Andrea Jenkins**: THANK YOU, PRESIDENT PAYNE. I AM CURIOUS WHAT HAPPENS TO THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE BEING IN NEGOTIATION. WHEN WILL THESE CONTRACTS BE REALIZED? [1:35:05] **Elliott Payne**: THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION. I THINK WHAT WE LEARNED DURING COMMITTEE IS THAT THOSE CONTRACTS ARE NOT FINALIZED RIGHT NOW WITHIN THE ADMINISTRATION. SO THE NEGOTIATION ISN'T JUST BETWEEN THE ADMINISTRATION AND THE VENDORS. IT'S — THEY'RE STILL FIGURING OUT THE DETAILS WITHIN THE ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESSES WITH PROCUREMENT BEFORE THOSE CONTRACTS ARE FINALIZED. AND SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT WORK IS FINALIZED BEFORE WE'RE TAKING UP A VOTE. [1:35:38] **Andrea Jenkins**: IS IT — I THOUGHT WE HEARD THE OTHER DAY FROM MS. LAKES THAT IT'S COMMON TO NEGOTIATE THESE CONTRACTS WITH THE VENDORS AFTER THE APPROVAL, RIGHT? [1:35:55] **Elliott Payne**: AND I'M SUGGESTING THAT WE ACTUALLY HAVE THOSE DETAILS FINALIZED BEFORE WE'RE ASKED FOR A VOTE. THANK YOU. [1:36:06] **Linea Palmisano**: MR. CHAIR, EARLIER IN THE MEETING WE APPROVED NEARLY $600,000 IN CONTRACTS FOR EAST LAKE STREET AND THE EAST FRANKLIN COMMUNITY SAFETY AND PILOT PROGRAMS. [1:36:18] **Linea Palmisano**: I DIDN'T HERE A PEEP OF DISCUSSION ABOUT R.P.F. AND COLLECTION PROCESS FOR THOSE CONTRACTS. WHY THOSE ARE OKAY TO SAIL THROUGH AND WE CONTINUE TO PICK APART THE PROCESS, SELECTION, AND SUDDENLY A FOCUS ON THE METRICS FOR OTHER KIND OF G.V.I. AND YGVI CONTRACTS IS SURPRISING. [1:36:34] **Linea Palmisano**: THE SAFETY AMBASSADOR PROGRAM IS A PILOT PROGRAM. SOMETHING NEW. SO WHY NO SCRUTINY THERE? THE NEIGHBORHOOD SAFETY DEPARTMENT PUT TOGETHER A GOOD PROCESS AND MADE TRANSPARENT SELECTIONS. [1:36:51] **Linea Palmisano**: WE NEED TO BELIEVE IN OUR PROFESSIONAL STAFF. DEPUTY DIRECTOR LAKES AND HER TEAM HAVE BEEN UP HERE THREE TIMES IN THE PAST TWO WEEKS SHOWING US THE CONTRACTS ARE SOLID AND READY TO GO. THEY HAVE GONE OVERAND ABOVE OF THE CONTRACTS AND IT IS FRUSTRATING AND FRANKLY, ANGERING THAT WE HAVE DRAGGED THIS OUT SO LONG. [1:37:12] **Linea Palmisano**: I DON'T FEEL WE CAN CONTINUE TO DELAY THIS, OR WE WILL END UP WITH A DISRUPTION IN SERVICE. I AM IN SUPPORT OF APPROVING THE CONTRACTS AND LETTING THE VENDORS PREPARE FOR A START DATE OF APRIL 1. I WOULD LIKE OUR CITY STAFF TO BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD TOWARD THAT EFFECT. [1:37:28] **Elliott Payne**: I BELIEVE I HEARD A QUESTION IN THERE THAT I THINK I MIGHT BE APT TO SPEAK TO. I WOULD SAY THAT WE SHOULD HAVE THIS LEVEL OF RIGOR FOR ALL CONTRACTS. AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT GOING FWAR FORWARD WITH THE R.C.A.'S AND I WELCOME THAT LEVEL OF SCRUTINY ACROSS THE BOARD IN THE INSTITUTION. COUNCIL MEMBER CASHMAN? [1:37:49] **Katie Cashman**: THANK YOU, PRESIDENT PAYNE. I AM ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT THE TIMING OF PUSHING THIS BACK A CYCLE. AND THE ABILITY FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO START THIS WORK ON APRIL 1. I MEAN, AVOIDING A GAP IN SERVICES WITH A SHARED GOAL IS AMONG US. [1:38:06] **Katie Cashman**: I AM CURIOUS AND TRYING TO LOOK AT THE COUNCIL CALENDAR FOR IF THIS IS MOVED BACK TO C.O.W. AND COMES BACK TO ANOTHER CYCLE. CAN YOU ANSWER TIMELINE AROUND WHEN IT WOULD BE APPROVED? [1:38:25] **Elliott Payne**: THIS WOULD GIVE THE ABILITY FOR THOSE CONTRACTS TO BE APPROVED ON MARCH 14. [1:38:25] **Katie Cashman**: OKAY. PRIOR TO THE APRIL 1 DEADLINE. AND WE ARE ASKING FOR THOSE DETAILS TO BELIEVE FINALIZED PRIOR TO DEADLINE. SO MARCH 14 GIVES THEM TWO WEEKS. I DID WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE UNDERSTANDING THAT. [1:38:48] **Katie Cashman**: AND THE CONVERSATION THAT WE HAVE AND PERFORMANCE METRICS AND THAT IS AN IDEAL TO STRIVE TOWARDS. AND THE POINT IS TAKEN WE DON'T DO THAT LEVEL OF RIGOR FOR CONTRACT AND BIHZ AND BUSINESS STREET DEVELOPMENT GRANTS BUT IN THIS CASE THIS IS ABOUT A SAFETY SERVICE WE ARE TRYING TO REALLY SUPPORT AND GET OFF THE GROUND. [1:39:11] **Katie Cashman**: I THINK THAT IS WHY WE'RE GIVING IT SUCH A LEVEL OF SCRUTINY BECAUSE WE CARE ABOUT THE SUCCESS. THAT IS WHY WE'RE HOLDS OURSELVES AS IT IS AS AN INSTITUTION ACCOUNTABLE TO THE OUTCOMES TO ACHIEVE THROUGH THE WORK BECAUSE WE CARE. WE WANT IT TO SUCCEED. THAT IS A SHARED GOAL AMONG US AS WELL. THAT IS ALL I WANTED TO SAY. [1:39:27] **Michael Rainville**: THANK YOU. I HAVE A QUESTION OF OUR CITY ATTORNEYS. SO WE'RE ASKING STAFF TO DO THESE CONTRACTS DIFFERENT THAN WE HAVE ASKED OTHER — IS THAT — HOW DOES THAT FIT LEGALLY? [1:39:45] **Kristyn Anderson**: SURE. COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCIL MEMBER RAINVILLE, SO MY UNDERSTANDING, AND THE DEPARTMENT CAN TELL ME IF I AM WRONG, IS THAT THE SORT OF THE PRACTICE OF THE CITY IS — THERE ARE DIFFERENT POINTS IN TIME THAT DEPARTMENTS BRING CONTRACTS BEFORE THE COUNCIL. [1:40:11] **Kristyn Anderson**: SOMETIMES THEY BRING THEM EARLIER ON. SOMETIMES THEY BRING THEM AFTER THEY'RE FULLY NEGOTIATED. THERE IS SOME FLEXIBILITY THERE. MY ASSUMPTION WITH THESE IS BECAUSE THE — BECAUSE THE APRIL 1 DEADLINE IN ORDER TO GET THE CONTRACT FULLY NEGOTIATED, THEM COME BEFORE COUNCIL, LIKE THERE IS SOME ADDED TIME THERE. [1:40:35] **Kristyn Anderson**: SO IF YOU GET THE CONTRACTS APPROVED A LITTLE EARLIER, AND FINISH THE NEGOTIATIONS AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL AND HAVE THAT AUTHORITY AND PUSH GO WHEN THE CONTRACT IS FULLY NEGOTIATED. [1:40:51] **Kristyn Anderson**: SO THE DEPARTMENT CAN SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES ABOUT THEIR TIMING AND WHY THEY CHOSE TO COME AROUND FOR COUNCIL. AND THAT IS MY UNDERSTANDING IS DEPARTMENTS DO COME AT DIFFERENT TIMES DEPENDING ON THE CIRCUMSTANCES. [1:41:06] **Michael Rainville**: OKAY. THANK YOU. I DO HAVE A QUESTION — THANK YOU FOR COMING UP. IF YOU COULD EXPLAIN WHAT THIS DELAY COULD DO FOR A SEAMLESS TRANSITION. [1:41:20] **Deputy Director Lakes**: PRESIDENT PAYNE, COUNCIL MEMBER RAINVILLE, THIS WOULD EFFECT THE PROGRAMS BECAUSE WHEN WE ARE PLANNING THE PROCESS, WE FACTOR THE R.C.A. PROCESS COMING TO COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL. AS I MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY, IT IS NOT UNCOMMON TO COME WITHOUT A CONTRACT BEING FULLY FINALIZED. WE DID NOT FACTOR THAT INTO THE TIMELINE WE HAVE. WE ARE STILL NEGOTIATING WITH THE VENDORS. THE BOILERPLATE LANGUAGE IS THERE, BUT THERE IS ADDITIONAL THINGS WE NEED TO WORK ON SUCH AS THE BUDGET, RIGHT? [1:42:01] **Deputy Director Lakes**: WHEN VENDORS PROPOSE THE BUDGET TO US, OFTEN TIMES THERE IS NOT A CAP. WE HAVE TO ENSURE WE NEGOTIATE WITH THE VENDOR SO THE BUDGET ALIGNS WITH WHAT THEY'RE BEING AWARDED. BUT IN ADDITION TO THAT TO ENSURE IT MEETS THE GOALS OF THE PROGRAM. SO THAT WOULD PUSH BACK THE TIMELINE. I DON'T THINK I WILL BE ABLE TO HAVE THE CONTRACTS NEGOTIATED BY THAT DATE. [1:42:18] **Michael Rainville**: THANK YOU. WELL, I WASN'T FINISHED. I AM NOT GOING TO VOTE FOR THIS BECAUSE OF THE DELAY AND WE SHOULD NOT MICRO MANAGE OUR STAFF. WE SHOULD RELY ON THE EXPERTISE AND THIS IS ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF POOR LEADERSHIP. THANK YOU. [1:42:36] **Robin Wonsley**: YES, THANK YOU PRESIDENT PAYNE. AND I WANT TO OFFER CLARIFICATION OF A PRESENTATION FROM PERFORMANCE MANAGEMENT AND INNOVATION IN THE ADMINISTRATION AND ENTERPRISE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE THAT ACTUALLY IS DOING WHAT IS BEING ASKED OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD SAFETY DEPARTMENT. [1:42:54] **Robin Wonsley**: SPECIFICALLY SINCE COUNCIL MEMBER PALMISANO REFERENCED THE SAFETY AMBASSADORS. IN THAT PRESENTATION, IT LISTS THAT FOR THE SAFETY AMBASSADORS PROGRAM PILOT SPECIFICALLY THAT WE JUST ALSO APPROVE EARLIER IN THIS AGENDA, BOTH DR. HARRINGTON AND P.M.A. WORKED TO INCORPORATE PERFORMANCE-BASED CONTRACTING METRICS. [1:43:17] **Robin Wonsley**: AND NOT ONLY THAT, BUT ON SLIDE 11, THOSE METRICS WERE INCLUDED IN THE COMMUNITY SAFETY AMBASSADOR R.P.F. SO IF THIS DEPARTMENT WITHIN O.C.S. WAS ABLE TO DO THIS FOR THE COMMUNITY SAFETY AMBASSADORS PILOTS WE APPROVED, AGAIN, HAVING VERY CLEAR, TRANSPARENT METRICS THAT SHOWS HOW ARE WE REDUCING HOMICIDES AND IF WE COULD DO THAT WITH SAFETY AMBASSADORS THAT IS NOT EVEN FOCUSSING ON THAT, IT MAKES NO SENSE WHY OUR OWN NEIGHBORHOOD SAFETY DEPARTMENT THAT IS IN CHARGE OF A PROGRAM THAT IS DOING THAT WORK, WHY THEY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO INCLUDE THAT INFORMATION IN THE R.P.F.'S. [1:43:59] **Robin Wonsley**: AND THIS IS SOMETHING TECHNICALLY IF THIS IS SOMETHING WE HAVE BEEN DOING, SHOULDN'T EXTEND THE DEADLINE. IF YOU ALL ALREADY HAVE METRICS THAT YOU SAY YOU ARE WORKING TO DEVELOP WITH OUR TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE PROVIDER, THOSE SEEM TO BE EASY TO INCLUDE IN THE LANGUAGE YOU SHARE WITH SOME VEHICLES AND MONTHLY REPORTING REQUIREMENTS THAT YOU LOOK TO INTEGRATE INTO THE CONTRACT. [1:44:30] **Robin Wonsley**: THIS IS ESSENTIALLY SAYING THAT, UNLESS, WE DON'T HAVE STAFF IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD SAFETY DEPARTMENT WHO CAN COLLECT THE DATA, WHICH FROM MY UNDERSTANDING WE DON'T. SAME AS WE DON'T HAVE A PROGRAM FOR GGVI AND GVI WHO SUPPORT IN THE COLLECTION OF THE DATA. [1:44:45] **Robin Wonsley**: THE KEY INFRASTRUCTURE PIECES ARE MISSING ANYWAY FOR THE DATA COLLECTION, BUT THAT IS NOT TO SAY WE DO KNOW OTHER DEPARTMENTS IS LITERALLY DOING THIS IN OTHER R.P.F.s WE JUST CONSIDERED. [1:45:02] **Aurin Chowdhury**: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I JUST WANT TO START OFF BY SAYING THAT THE FUNCTION OF THE COUNCIL IS OVERSIGHT. THE REASON WHY CONTRACTS COME BEFORE US IS SO WE CAN HAVE AN OVERSIGHT DISCUSSION. THAT IS WHY WE GET TO VOTE ON IT. OTHERWISE, WE WOULDN'T BE VOTING ON IT. [1:45:20] **Aurin Chowdhury**: A PART OF THE OVERSIGHT IS DISCUSSING WHERE CONTRACTS ARE IN THE PROCESS AND WHY IS THERE MORE SCRUTINY ON THESE CONTRACTS OVER OTHERS? WHY IS THIS DIFFERENT FROM OTHER CONTRACTS? WELL, FIRST OF ALL, THERE IS A LAWSUIT AGAINST THE CITY. [1:45:37] **Aurin Chowdhury**: THERE WAS A SETTLEMENT. THE LEADER OF THE DEPARTMENT OF NEIGHBORHOOD SAFETY DEPARTMENT HAS LEFT. THERE IS A BACKLOG IN THE CONTRACTS PRIOR MOVING FORWARD. [1:45:54] **Aurin Chowdhury**: WE ASKED A QUESTION AT THE BUDGET MEETING ABOUT HOW MUCH FUNDING WAS GOING TO GO TO YGVI AND GVI. AND THERE WAS — A NUMBER WAS NOT GIVEN TO US. WE WERE TOLD THE NUMBER COULD NOT BE GIVEN TO US EVEN THOUGH THAT NUMBER CERTAINLY DID EXIST BECAUSE IN ORDER TO EXECUTE THESE CONTRACTS AND HAVE THOSE NUMBERS, YOU WOULD HAVE HAD TO HAVE KNOWN THAT. [1:46:18] **Aurin Chowdhury**: AND I WANT TO CALL THAT OUT. THERE IS A LOT OF REASONS WHY THERE IS SCRUTINY. I ALSO WANT TO CALL OUT THAT THE JOB OF THE CITY COUNCIL IS NOT TO DIRECT PUBLIC SAFETY EFFORTS AND INITIATIVES. THAT'S A JOB OF THE DIRECTOR OF THE OFFICE OF COMMUNITY SAFETY AND THE MAYOR. [1:46:39] **Aurin Chowdhury**: I DON'T GET TO CONTROL THAT. I DON'T GET TO CONTROL THE WORK, BUT I DO WANT THE WORK TO BE SUCCESSFUL. THE COUNTY DIDN'T HAVE ANY LAWSUITS OR SETTLEMENT BEFORE THEM, AND THAT IS WHY LET'S MAKE SURE THE PROGRAMMING IS ABLEK TO EXECUTED SMOOTHLY AND THEIR CONTRACTS. [1:46:56] **Aurin Chowdhury**: THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, WHO IS VERY WELL KNOWN AND HAS A REALLY GOOD REPUTATION OF DOING GOOD WORK TALKED TO US AND IS READY TO TAKE ON THE WORK. THAT IS SOMETHING WE DIDN'T WANT TO DO, SO WE SET THAT ASIDE. [1:47:11] **Aurin Chowdhury**: THEN WE ASKED QUESTIONS ABOUT THE CONTRACT TO GET ANSWERS TO PERFORMANCE METRICS BECAUSE PERFORMANCE IS AN ISSUE WHEN IT'S CONTRACTING OUT OF THE DEPARTMENT OF O.C.S. AND OUR CONSTITUENTS HAVE BEEN SAYING WE NEED MORE TRANSPARENCY. WE'RE WORRIED. HOW ARE THE TAXPAYER DOLLARS BEING MET? WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION GIVEN. [1:47:30] **Aurin Chowdhury**: I APPRECIATE ALL THE INFORMATION ABOUT THE R.P.F. PROCESS. THAT IS GREAT. THAT IS A GOOD FIRST STEP. WE DIDN'T GET THAT INFORMATION. AND NOW WE'RE ASKING FOR TIME TO DELAY SO WE CAN GET MORE OF THAT INFORMATION TOGETHER. HOWEVER, I AM NOT GOING TO BE VOTING TO DELAY. [1:47:46] **Aurin Chowdhury**: I THINK I HAVE DONE MY EFFORT TO TRY TO HELP THE OFFICE OF COMMUNITY SAFETY AND NEIGHBORHOOD SAFETY INSURE THEY DO THEIR PROGRAMMING WELL. I AM CONCERNS THAT THIS IS NOT GOING TO GO WELL. I WISH THEM WELL. THAT IS NOT MY JURISDICTION. [1:48:03] **Aurin Chowdhury**: THE OPERATIONS OF PUBLIC SAFETY AND THOSE EFFORTS IN THE SUCCESSES AND FAILURES THAT WE HAVE SEEN, THAT FALLS SQUARELY UNDER THE ADMINISTRATION AND THE MAYOR. AND SO I'M NOT GOING TO FURTHER DELAY IT. I OFFERED IT UP. I WAS READY TO VOTE ON IT, BUT THAT IS WHERE I AM AT. [1:48:19] **Aurin Chowdhury**: I KNOW MY — I DEPART FROM MY COLLEAGUES ON THAT DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE FROM THAT, BUT I WANTED TO STATE THAT FOR THE RECORD. [1:48:29] **Aisha Chughtai**: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I APPRECIATE THAT OUR STAFF IN RESPONDING TO SOME OF THE QUESTIONS HERE TODAY AND BRINGING UP CONCERNS INSURING THAT THEY HAVE CLARITY FROM THE BODY ABOUT A CAP ON THE AMOUNTS FOR THESE DIFFERENT G.V.I. AND YGVI CONTRACTS. [1:48:56] **Aisha Chughtai**: AND I THINK THIS WAS SAID A FEW DIFFERENT TIMES PRETTY EXPLICITLY DURING THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING, AND HAPPY TO REPEAT IT HERE AGAIN TODAY AND WOULD WELCOME OTHERS TO CHIME IN, TOO. I DON'T THINK ANYONE IS BRINGING UP ANY CONCERNS ABOUT THE AMOUNTS, THE DOLLAR VALUE, TO EACH OF THE CONTRACTS THAT ARE LISTED. [1:49:20] **Aisha Chughtai**: SIX CONTRACTS, FIVE VENDORS. THAT'S NOT THE REALM IN WHICH THE CONCERN IS EXISTING. BUT WHERE IT — BUT WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO MAKE SURE WE UNDERSTAND IS WE HAVE CLARIFY FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD SAFETY DEPARTMENT ABOUT WHAT OUTCOMES YOU ARE TRYING TO ACHIEVE WHICH ARE THEN SUPPORTED BY THE SIX CONTRACTS, FIVE VENDORS THAT PROVIDE GVI AND YGVI SERVICES, RIGHT? THE DEPARTMENT HAS AN OUTCOME IT IS TRYING TO GET TO. [1:49:54] **Aisha Chughtai**: IT ENGAGES IN CONTRACTING WITH VENDORS TO PROVIDE SERVICES THAT ULTIMATELY SUPPORT THOSE BIG PICTURE GOALS. THAT'S THE INFORMATION WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO GET FROM YOU AND TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE RECEIVING MORE BAKED IN CONTRACTS. [1:50:14] **Aisha Chughtai**: AND I APPRECIATE R.C.A. DEADLINES CAN BE A CHALLENGE AND ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU HAVE A TIGHT DEADLINE THAT YOU ARE WORKING WITH, THAT APRIL 1 DEADLINE TO PREVENT ANY DISRUPTION OF THE DELIVERY OF SERVICES. [1:50:30] **Aisha Chughtai**: I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE THERE'S TIME BAKED IN FOR THAT, BUT TO BE CLEAR, YOU HAVE SUBMITTED AND R.C.A. TO US. WE ARE SENDING THE ITEM BACK TO COMMITTEE. YOU DON'T HAVE TO RESTART THAT PROCESS. IT LIVES WITHIN THE COMMITTEE SYSTEM RIGHT NOW. [1:50:45] **Aisha Chughtai**: AND WHAT WE NEED FROM YOU IS UPDATED INFORMATION. THERE ARE TWO COUNCIL MEETINGS THAT ARE SCHEDULED BEFORE THAT APRIL 1 DEADLINE. ONE ON MARCH 14. AND THEN ONE AGAIN ON MARCH 28. AND SO IF WHAT YOU'RE REALLY TRYING TO COMMUNICATE IS YOU WON'T HAVE CONTRACTS NEGOTIATED BEFORE APRIL 1, THAT IS A DIFFERENT ISSUE. [1:51:06] **Aisha Chughtai**: I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THAT, TOO, BUT EVERYTHING I HEAR FROM THE DEPARTMENT IS WE ARE READY. WE ARE ON TRACK TO HAVE FULLY NEGOTIATED CONTRACTS AND BE READY TO CONTINUE SERVICES AND TRANSITION SERVICES FROM THE 2023 TO 2025 CYCLE OF VENDORS TO THIS MOST UPDATED ONE FOR THIS UPCOMING YEAR. [1:51:34] **Aisha Chughtai**: SO I JUST HEARD SOMETHING EARLIER ABOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD SAFETY DEPARTMENT STAFF MENTIONING THAT WE WON'T HAVE CONTRACTS NEGOTIATED IN THAT TIME. AND I AM TRYING TO PIECE TOGETHER THE FACT THAT WE HAVE TWO COUNCIL MEETINGS LEFT BEFORE THE DEADLINE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. [1:51:58] **Aisha Chughtai**: THERE ISN'T A NEED TO FILL OUT NEW R.C.A.'S BECAUSE WE HAVE THEM AND WE JUST NEED UPDATED FILES. AND WE KNOW — NO ONE HAS BROUGHT UP CONCERNS ABOUT THE BUDGETARY AMOUNTS THAT WERE LISTED IN THE ITEM THAT'S BEFORE US. [1:52:18] **Aisha Chughtai**: SO I'M REALLY NOT UNDERSTANDING WHY THERE COULD BE A DISRUPTION IN SERVICES WHEN — WHEN NONE OF THE EVIDENCE POINTS TO THAT BEING A THING. [1:52:43] **Elliott Payne**: I'M WONDERING IF, MR. CLERK, YOU COULD GIVE MORE GUIDANCE AROUND THE R.C.A. PROCESS AND WHETHER OR NOT THAT WOULD BE A BARRIER TO THEM FINALIZING THEIR DETAILS AND GETTING A VOTE AHEAD OF THAT APRIL 1 DATE. [1:52:50] **Casey Carl**: MR. PRESIDENT, I APPRECIATE THE QUESTION. I THINK AS THE COUNCIL VICE PRESIDENT ADEQUATELY DESCRIBED, THERE IS NO REQUIREMENT FOR A NEW R.C.A. THERE IS AN R.C.A. IN PROCESS. THIS IS WITHIN THE LEGISLATIVE PROCESS AND THE FILES HAVE BEEN CREATED. THERE IS A REQUEST FOR ADDITIONAL, VERY SPECIFIC INFORMATION THAT YOU HAD PUT FORWARD AND PROPOSED THAT CAN BE THE ITEM RETURNED BACK TO THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE. [1:53:12] **Casey Carl**: THERE ARE SOME SCHEDULING CHANGES AS YOU KNOW DUE TO THE NATIONAL LEAGUE OF CITIES SO THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING RATHER THAN TUESDAY OF THAT WEEK IS THURSDAY THE 14th OF MARCH, BUT THE COUNCIL MEETING WHERE THAT MATTER WOULD BE CONSIDERED AND ACTED ON IS LITERALLY THE NEXT DAY, FRIDAY THE 15th — I'M SORRY IF I AM OFF BY A DAY. [1:53:30] **Casey Carl**: AND SO I DON'T THINK THAT THE R.C.A. PROCESS OR THE LEGISLATIVE PROCESS ITSELF WOULD BE A HINDRANCE TO WHAT YOU'VE PUT FORWARD AS A MOTION IN FRONT OF THE BODY. [1:53:42] **Elliott Payne**: THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION. ARE YOU FINISHED, VICE PRESIDENT? [1:53:46] **Aisha Chughtai**: YES, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. [1:53:48] **Jeremiah Ellison**: THANK YOU. I FEEL LIKE I'M BASICALLY IN AGREEMENT WITH COUNCIL MEMBER CHOWDHURY. IT FEELS LIKE TO ME — THIS IS HOW I AM LISTENING TO THE CONVERSATION THAT WHILE I'M ALWAYS OPEN TO US, ESPECIALLY WITH THE ITEM IN THE ISSUES THAT WE HAVE HAD WITH THE DEPARTMENT IN THE PAST, US FIGURING OUT WHAT'S GOING ON HERE. [1:54:13] **Jeremiah Ellison**: I HAVE HAD A LOT OF CONCERNS ABOUT WHAT IS THE FIDELITY TO THE MODEL, WHAT ARE WE DOING HERE? BUT THIS TO ME, THIS IS ABOUT THE — THE QUESTIONS SEEM TO BE ABOUT THE MODEL. THIS IS ABOUT WHETHER WE'RE PROCEEDING AT ALL WITH THE MONEY. [1:54:32] **Jeremiah Ellison**: TO ME THEY FEEL LIKE TWO DIFFERENT QUESTIONS. THAT IS HOW I'M INTERPRETING IT. AND IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THIS PROGRAMMING AT ALL, THEN I THINK THAT IT'S FINE IF WE PASS THESE CONTRACTS AND I DON'T KNOW THAT WE — I DON'T KNOW THAT WE SHOULD SORT OF HOLD UP THE CONTRACTS IN ORDER TO GET QUESTIONS ABOUT THE MODEL AND THE WORK. [1:54:54] **Jeremiah Ellison**: WE, AS SOMEBODY WHO, I THINK, I AM WELL DOCUMENTED AS HAVING A LOT OF FRUSTRATION WITH HOW THIS WORK HAS BEEN GOING ON SINCE SOME OF THE PREVIOUS LEADERSHIP CHANGES, AND JUST MY BELIEF IN THIS WORK AND FEELING LIKE I AM NOT SURE WHAT IS GOING ON WITH THIS WORK. [1:55:11] **Jeremiah Ellison**: AS SOMEBODY WHO IS SUPPORTIVE OF THE POTENTIAL MOVE TO THE COUNTY, WE SORT OF REALIZED THAT WASN'T GOING TO BE THE PERFECT SOLUTION TO THE QUESTIONS WE HAD. AND SO I THINK THAT ALL OF THE SKEPTICISM AND THE FRUSTRATION IS VALID. BUT RIGHT NOW WE ARE LOOKING AT THESE CONTRACTS AND I'M THINKING, WELL, IF WE HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE MODEL, WE SHOULD ASK THOSE QUESTIONS. [1:55:35] **Jeremiah Ellison**: IF WE HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT REPORTING, WE SHOULD BRING STAFF BACK TO ASK THOSE QUESTIONS. WE HAVE MADE MANY EFFORTS THERE. THAT'S MY OPINION HERE. I WILL SAY THAT I — I TRUST THE INTENT OF EVERYBODY ON THIS DAIS, BUT I THINK BY MAKING CERTAIN STANDARDS MANDATORY AS A CONDITION OF PASSING THESE CONTRACTS, IT HAS THE EFFECT OF MICROMANAGEMENT. [1:56:15] **Jeremiah Ellison**: IT HAS THE EFFECT OF ULTIMATELY, YOU KNOW, IF STAFF HASN'T BEEN FEELING DISCOURAGED THE PAST FEW WEEKS, THEN I THINK THIS COULD BE A DISCOURAGING MOVE. I THINK WE SHOULD PASS THESE CONTRACTS. [1:56:30] **Jeremiah Ellison**: THAT'S WHERE I AM AT WITH IT. I'M NOT GOING TO BE SUPPORTIVE OF A DELAY TODAY. I AM VERY SUPPORTIVE OF CONTINUING TO APPLY PRESSURE TO THE COMMISSIONER AND THE DEPARTMENT TO HELP US UNDERSTAND THE WORK WE'RE DOING, SO MUCH OF WHAT WE'VE BEEN GIVEN IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS IS ABOUT — IS ABOUT SORT OF ACCOUNTABILITY TO THE VENDORS AND WHILE THERE NEEDS TO BE ACCOUNTABILITY TO THE VENDORS, I AM LIKE WHAT'S THE WORK? WHAT'S THE WORK HAPPENING? I THINK WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO BE ENGAGE IN THAT QUESTION OF WHAT IS THE WORK THAT IS HAPPENING, NOT JUST WHICH VENDORS ARE FILLING OUT WHICH WORK ON TIME. I WANT TO GET ON THAT. SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT MAKES SENSE TO ANYONE ELSE. [1:57:16] **Jeremiah Ellison**: IT FEELS LIKE WE SHOULD PROCEED FORWARD WITH THESE TODAY. WE SHOULD CONTINUE TO BE, YOU KNOW, TO BE STEADFAST IN ASKING FOR MORE ACCOUNTABILITY AND MORE CLARIFICATION ABOUT THE WORK THAT'S HAPPENING. I DON'T THINK THESE CONTRACTS NEED TO BE THE NEXUS FOR THAT. [1:57:40] **LaTrisha Vetaw**: THANK YOU PRESIDENT PAYNE, THANK YOU SO MUCH COUNCIL MEMBER ELLISON, THAT IS EXACTLY THE SENTIMENT I SHARE IN THIS. I DON'T SEE WHY WE WOULD BE DELAYING THIS. WE NEED TO MOVE THIS WORK FORWARD. I KNOW HOW IMPORTANT IT IS FOR US TO MAKE SURE THIS WORK KEEPS MOVING BECAUSE SPRING IS UPON US. IF YOU GO OUTSIDE, YOU CAN SEE THE WEATHER IS SHIFTING. WE MAY HAVE ANOTHER SNOWSTORM BETWEEN NOW AND OFFICIAL SPRING, BUT WE NEED THESE SERVICES. WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THERE IS NO LAPSE. WE KNOW THAT ONCE THE WEATHER SHIFTS, THERE IS GOING TO BE GREAT NEED FOR THESE SERVICES AND I AGAIN, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I REMIND MY COLLEAGUES AND THE GENERAL PUBLIC THAT THIS IS NOT VIOLENCE INTERRUPTER SERVICES. THIS IS NOT MINNEAPOLIS. THIS IS GVI AND YGVI SERVICES THAT HAVE A VERY DIFFERENT MEANING THAN WHAT I FEEL THE GENERAL PUBLIC THINKS IS HAPPENING HERE. I THINK THERE IS A LOT OF CONFUSION ON WHAT WE'RE VOTING ON HERE. THERE IS NO REASON FOR US TO DELAY IN THIS VOTE. IT'S TOTALLY FINE FOR US TO BE CRITICAL. THIS FEELS EXTREMELY MICROMANAGING, AND ESPECIALLY BECAUSE YOU DON'T NEED PROCUREMENT DURING THE NEGOTIATIONS. LIKE THERE IS WORK THAT CAN CONTINUE TO BE DONE IF YOU AS A COUNCIL MEMBER HAVE SPECIFIC NEEDS OR QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS, BUT MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE CONTRACTS IN PLACE AND PEOPLE READY TO WORK. I JUST THINK OF THE VENDORS WHO ARE PREVIOUS VENDORS, THE AMOUNT OF STRESS THIS DELAY HAS ON THEM WITH THE UNKNOWN. THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN DOING THIS WORK THAT WANT TO CONTINUE THIS WORK, THAT HAVE A ROSTER OF FOLKS THAT THEY ARE SERVICING AND TO HAVE TO WATCH THESE CONVERSATIONS PUBLICLY PLAY OUT AND YOU'RE DOING THE WORK. [1:59:33] **LaTrisha Vetaw**: YOU'RE WAKING UP AND DOING THE WORK EVERY SINGLE DAY. THAT — I MEAN THE MORALE ISSUES THAT IT CAUSES FOR PEOPLE AND THE RELATIONSHIP. WE TALK ABOUT TRUST A LOT ON THIS COUNCIL. THE WAY YOU BREAK TRUST IS BY NOT BELIEVING IN PEOPLE. THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT SHOW UP AND THEY DO THIS WORK EVERY DAY AND THEY ARE BELIEVING IN US TO HAVE THEIR BACKS AND TO MAKE SURE THEY HAVE THE FINANCIAL SUPPORT THAT THEY NEED TO CONTINUE DOING THIS WORK. I BELIEVE IN THE WORK THAT THEY'RE DOING. I THINK THAT THE DEPARTMENT IS DOING A GOOD JOB AT TRYING TO MAKE THINGS BETTER FOR ALL OF US SO I REALLY HOPE WE MOVE THIS FORWARD TODAY AND VOTE ON THE WORK. WE'RE VOTING ON THE WORK. WE'RE VOTING IN FAVOR OF OUR CITY HAVING SERVICES. [2:00:20] **Michael Rainville**: THANK YOU. SO PRIOR TO THE VOTE, I JUST WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE COMMISSIONER BARNETT AND HIS STAFF. I WANT TO THANK YOU. THIS LEVEL OF ACCOUNTABILITY, TRANSPARENCY, THIS IS THE HIGHEST WE'VE EVER HAD. WHEN I STARTED FOUR YEARS AGO, I VOTED AGAINST THESE BECAUSE WE DID NOT HAVE THAT LEVEL OF TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY WITH THE LAST STAFF WE HAD. YOU AND YOUR STAFF HAVE BROUGHT THIS FORWARD. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. LET'S MOVE FORWARD AND GET THIS BEHIND US. THANK YOU. [2:01:03] **Katie Koski**: THANK YOU PRESIDENT PAYNE. SO I WON'T BE SUPPORTING DELAY IN THIS TODAY, BUT WHAT I DO SUPPORT IS FOR US TO UPDATE OUR R.C.A. PROCESS. I SEE THAT AS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO REVIEW AND GET RIGHT, SO THAT WE CAN DO THE WORK OF OUR OVERSIGHT MORE EFFICIENTLY AND EFFECTIVELY HERE. SO I BELIEVE THAT WE DO NEED TO ESTABLISH BETTER EXPECTATIONS FOR OUR STAFF IF WE DON'T ESTABLISH WHAT THOSE ARE, THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT TO COME FORWARD WITH AND I DO THINK AS COUNCIL MEMBER WONSLEY STATED, THAT OUR — YOU KNOW, THE OUTCOMES MINNEAPOLIS AND THE WORK THEY ARE DOING SHOULD BE HOPEFULLY COMING AND WE CAN INCORPORATE THAT IN THAT PROCESS. I AM HERE TO WORK WITH YOU AS COUNCIL LEADERSHIP IF YOU ARE WILLING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CONTINUE THAT WORK. WE NEED TO ESTABLISH THOSE EXPECTATIONS IN OUR R.C.A. PROCESS AND I DON'T THINK WE HAVE DONE THAT QUITE YET SO I WON'T SUPPORT THIS DELAY. THANK YOU. [2:02:09] **Jamal Osman**: THANK YOU, I WILL BE QUICK. I JUST WANTED TO MENTION THE SAME THING AS YESTERDAY THAT I WILL BE ABSTAINING TO VOTING ANY CONTRACT ON THIS BECAUSE WHAT HAS BEEN SAID ON THE LAST FEW WEEKS AND WHAT HAPPENED HERE. [2:02:31] **Jamal Osman**: SO, I WANT TO THANK THE STAFF FOR THEIR WORK, JUST OVERALL DELAY OR NOT, I WILL BE ABSTAINING ON THIS. THANK YOU. [2:02:44] **Jason Chavez**: I WILL BE SUPPORTING THE CONTRACTS IN GENERAL, IF THERE IS A MOTION TO DELAY, I WOULD CONSIDER THAT. I DO WANT TO BE CLEAR TO THE PUBLIC, THERE IS A GOVERNMENT STRUCTURE IN PLACE. THE EXECUTIVE OF THE CITY IS THE MAYOR AND IF THERE IS A MISMANAGEMENT, THAT IS ON THE MAYOR AND THE MAYOR HIMSELF. SO THERE ARE MANY CONCERNS IN THIS DEPARTMENT THAT NEED TO GET FIXED, THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED, AND THAT IS UP TO THE MAYOR. HE NEEDS TO FIX THOSE ISSUES IN THE DEPARTMENT, IT'S AFFECTING OUR YGVI AND GVI CONTRACTS. IT'S AFFECTING OUR RESIDENTS IN GENERAL. IT'S NOT ABOUT THE CONTRACT OR THE GROUPS GETTING THE FUNDING, IT JUST NEEDS TO HAPPEN. IT IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT'S IMPACTING OUR RESIDENTS. HOWEVER, THERE NEEDS TO BE MORE METRICS IN THESE CONTRACTS. I DON'T SEE THAT FULLY THERE AND THAT IS VERY CONCERNING WHEN WE'RE USING TAXPAYER DOLLARS AND I DON'T SEE THE METRICS AND THEN WE WANT TO SEE THE RESULTS. SO THE THING I'LL SAY IS AS THE CHAIR OF THE PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY COMMITTEE, WE WILL USE OUR OVERSIGHT FUNCTION AND ASK STAFF TO COME BACK TO THE COMMITTEE TO PRESENT ON THE RESULTS OF THESE CONTRACTS. AT SOME POINT, WE JUST HAVE TO SAY THAT THE MAYOR IS THE EXECUTIVE. IF THESE CONTRACTS ARE FAILING AND NOT ADDRESSING THE SAFETY CONCERNS, THERE IS ONE PERSON IN CHARGE AND THAT IS THE MAYOR. THAT'S IT. PERIOD. WE NEED TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT. SO, I JUST WANT TO AT LEAST MAKE THAT COMMENT BECAUSE I DON'T WANT ANY DISRUPTION IN SERVICES, HOWEVER I DON'T THINK A DELAY WOULD DO THAT BUT I GET THAT THAT'S AN ACCIDENT STICKING POINT HERE. THE MISMANAGEMENT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED BY THE MAYOR AND THE MAYOR HIMSELF. THAT IS BEING MISSED OUT OVER HERE. ULTIMATELY, I SUPPORT THE CONTRACTS THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE HERE. I THINK THESE ARE IMPORTANT SERVICES THAT NEED TO BE DELIVERED TO OUR RESIDENTS, TO REDUCE VIOLENCE IN OR CITY. ULTIMATELY, IF THERE IS MISMANAGEMENT CONTINUING, THAT'S ON THE MAYOR. [2:04:54] **Robin Wonsley**: THANK YOU PRESIDENT PAYNE. I JUST WANT TO REITERATE ONE, I WILL BE SUPPORTING THE DELAY AND SHOULD THAT NOT PROCEED, I WILL BE ABSTAINING AS I SHARED ON TUESDAY. IN TERMS OF WHY I AM SUPPORTING THE DELAY, WHAT YOU PROPOSED IS ACTUALLY NOT UNCOMMON. WE KNOW THAT R.C.A.s HAVE THE ABILITY TO BE UPDATED TO INCLUDE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION. WE HAVE DONE THAT WITH OTHER CONTRACTS BEFORE EVEN IN THIS SUBCOMMITTEE FOR THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENTS. THAT'S NOT A MICROMANAGING PIECE, THAT WAS CRITICAL INFORMATION BEING MISSED AND WORKING WITH THE ADMINISTRATION TO GET THAT INFORMATION INCLUDED IN THE R.C.A. WHAT I WILL NOTE, ONE OF THE LAST PRESENTATIONS THAT THE FORMER DIRECTOR GAVE TO THE ADMINISTRATION WAS AROUND THE BARRIER FOR THEM DOING DATA COLLECTION AND HAVING MEASURABLE OUTCOMES TO DEFINE WHETHER OR NOT OUR GVI AND YGVI PROGRAMS ARE SUCCESSFUL. SHE NAMED THE CONTRACTS AS BEING A BARRIER. SO LITERALLY, THIS IS THE TIME IN WHICH YOU CAN SET THE EXPECTATIONS IN YOUR R.C.A., IN YOUR CONTRACTS, FOR THE VENDORS WE WILL BE PARTNERING WITH SO THEY KNOW NOT ONLY WHAT TYPE OF DATA THEY NEED TO PRODUCE BUT WHAT GOALS WE ARE ACTUALLY TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH AS A CITY. [2:06:16] **Robin Wonsley**: OTHER CITIES ARE DOING THIS WORK PHENOMENALLY WELL AS I NAMED IN THE PAST. THEY'RE SEEING 40% TO 30% REDUCTIONS IN THEIR HOMICIDES. WE HAVE NO GOAL ESTABLISHED FOR THE VERY RELEVANT PROGRAM THAT THIS WOULD BE TARGETING. WE DON'T ETCH HAVE A PROGRAM MANAGER TO SUPPORT THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THESE PROGRAMS. WHILE PEOPLE ARE REFERENCING A DELAY, THE NEIGHBORHOOD SAFETY DEPARTMENT HAS NOT ONLY OUTLINED A TRANSITION PLAN. WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO DO WITH THE CLIENTS WITH THE PREVIOUS GVI AND YGVI CONTRACTOR? HOW WILL THEY SUPPORT THE CONTINUATION OF SERVICES WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE A PROGRAM MANAGER FOR THIS SPECIFIC WORK AND A DIRECTOR. SO AGAIN, THOSE ARE ALL THINGS THAT I HIGHLIGHTED AS MISMANAGEMENT COMPONENTS, THAT SHOWS LIKE THIS DOES WARRANT MORE TIME AND THAT IS WHY I BROUGHT THE PROPOSAL FORWARD TO TRANSITION THESE SERVICES TO HENNEPIN COUNTY BECAUSE NOT ONLY DO WE HAVE ISSUES HERE WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT YGVI AND GVI, THIS IS SPREAD ACROSS DIFFERENT PROGRAMS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD SAFETY DEPARTMENT. WE ONLY TOUCHED THE SURFACE. WE HAVE CONTRACTORS THAT COME HERE AND HAVE THREATENED US AND THERE HAS BEEN NO ACCOUNTABILITY HAPPEN. WE DON'T UNDERSTAND OR KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON, RELATING TO THE CONTRACT THAT WAS GIVEN OUT TO POTENTIALLY THE PARTNER OF THE FORMER DIRECTOR OF NEIGHBORHOOD SAFETY. SO, ALL THOSE COME — COMPONENTS, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON AND THERE IS NO ANSWER ON WHAT CORRECTIVE ACTION WILL BE PUT IN PLACE. THIS IS NOT UNCOMMON IN TERMS OF WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING, IN HAVING RCAs BE UPDATED WITH ACTUAL OUTCOMES SO RESIDENTS KNOW OKAY, WE SHOULD ANTICIPATE THESE SERVICES TO ACTUALLY KEEP OUR RESIDENTS SAFE AND OUR YOUNG PEOPLE SAFE IN THESE SPECIFIC WAYS AND THAT IS CURRENTLY MISSING. WE'RE RUBBER STAMPING THAT. THAT'S COOL, FOR SOME OF Y'ALL, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING I WON'T BE ENDORSING. [2:08:18] **Robin Wonsley**: I THINK IT'S WORTH TAKING THE TWO WEEKS TO GET THAT INFORMATION, ESPECIALLY IT SOUNDS LIKE THE DEPUTY DIRECTOR HAS BEEN WILLING TO TALK ABOUT HOW TO INCLUDE SOME MORE UPDATED REPORTING METRICS INTO THE CONTRACT. I WILL BE SUPPORTING THE MOTION ON THAT, IF THAT DOES NOT PROCEED. I WILL BE ABSTAINING BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE ANY CONFIDENCE AT THIS MOMENT IN THE ADMINISTRATION'S ABILITY TO SHOW THAT THEY CAN'T ADMINISTER THESE PROGRAMS EFFECTIVELY, IN A WAY THAT KEEPS OUR RESIDENTS SAFE, AND I REALLY HOPE RELATIVELY SOON THAT OUR STAFF COULD PROVE ME WRONG. I REALLY WANT YOU TO. I HOPE, I HOPE THAT IS A CHALLENGE, BUT THANK YOU. I WILL BE SUPPORTING THIS MOTION. [2:09:05] **Elliott Payne**: SEEING NO ONE ELSE IN QUEUE, I WILL ASK THE CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL BACK TO THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE. [2:09:12] **Casey Carl**: COUNCIL MEMBER OSMAN, ABSTAIN. RAINVILLE, NAY. [2:09:21] **Casey Carl**: COUNCIL MEMBER CHAVEZ, AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER VETAW, NO, COUNCIL MEMBER KOSKI NO, COUNCIL MEMBER WONSLEY AYE, COUNCIL MEMBER JENKINS NAY, COUNCIL MEMBER CHOWDHURY, AYE, COUNCIL MEMBER CASHMAN NAY, VICE PRESIDENT CHUGTAI AYE, PRESIDENT PAYNE AYE. 5 AYES, 7 NAYS. [2:09:49] **Elliott Payne**: THAT ITEM FAILS AND WE HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL IF WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THOSE. [2:09:55] **LaTrisha Vetaw**: SO MOVED. [2:09:56] **Michael Rainville**: SECOND. [2:09:58] **Elliott Payne**: ALL RIGHT, IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, I WILL ASK THE CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL. [2:10:06] **Aurin Chowdhury**: DISCUSSION. I JUST WANTED TO COME IN AND KIND OF ECHO, LIKE I DON'T THINK IT SHOULD BE LOST ON US AS WE TAKE THIS VOTE. THE QUESTIONS ONLY MISMANAGEMENT IS STILL THERE. I AM GOING TO SAY THAT. I KNOW OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE SAID THAT, I WILL SAY IT AGAIN, THE QUESTIONS OF MISMANAGEMENT IS STILL THERE. THE PAPER OF RECORD, TALKED ABOUT HOW A CONTRACT WAS SIGNED AND GIVEN MONEY TO OUR FORMER NEIGHBORHOOD SAFETY DIRECTORS, PARTNERS, SOMEONE THEY WERE IN A RELATIONSHIP WITH, THAT WAS DENIED BY THAT PERSON, AND THEN IT WAS SHOWN THAT THERE WAS SOME SORT OF RELATIONSHIP AND I DO THINK THE PUBLIC DESERVES TO HAVE SOME SORT OF CLARITY AROUND THAT. [2:10:57] **Aurin Chowdhury**: I DO THINK THERE ARE THESE QUESTIONS ABOUT THREATS THAT COUNCIL MEMBERS HAD FACED AND SMEARS OF SAYING COUNCIL MEMBERS WERE TRYING TO ENRICH THEMSELVES OR PICK THEIR FAVORITE NON-PROFITS WHEN WE WERE TRYING TO CALL OUT THE MISMANAGEMENT AND THINGS THAT FELT UNETHICAL WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY SAFETY. I THINK THE PUBLIC SHOULD HOLD OUR CITY ACCOUNTABLE TO THAT. I THINK THE PUBLIC SHOULD HOLD THE MAYOR OF OUR CITY ACCOUNTABLE TO THAT. I ALSO DON'T WANT TO RUBBER STAMP THESE WITHOUT THOSE ANSWERS AVAILABLE. IT DOESN'T FEEL RIGHT. SO, I WILL ALSO BE ABSTAINING TODAY FROM THESE CONTRACTS. I VALUE THE PROGRAMMING THAT IS NEEDED AROUND YGVI AND GVI, I DID A RIDE ALONG. I MET WITH PARENTS THAT HAVE EXPERIENCES, THAT HAVE A DEEP NEED OF HAVING THESE PROGRAMS THERE PLACE, AND I HAVE DEEP CONCERNS THAT WE DON'T HAVE ALL OF THE INDIVIDUALS THAT IS BEFORE US WITHIN THESE CONTRACTS TO BE APPROVED, TRAINED IN THE NATIONAL MODEL YET. WITHOUT CLARITY ON WHEN THEY WILL BE. THAT DOES MATTER TO ME. THAT IS AS SUCCESSIVE PROGRAMMING. I WANTED TO MAKE THAT COMMENT BEFORE WE VOTE. [2:12:12] **Jeremiah Ellison**: I THINK THE QUESTIONS AROUND SOME OF THE NEWS REPORTS WE'VE SEEN, I DO THINK THEY MATTER AS WELL. FOR — I'LL SPEAK FOR MYSELF, THAT MATTER IS NOT BEFORE US HERE, FOR ME. WHEN I'M LOOKING AT JUST THE TWO ITEMS, I'M LOOKING AT THESE VENDORS, I'M LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, OUR STAFF, MS. LAKES, SAYING THAT THEY'RE READY TO GO ON THESE ITEMS. DO I HAVE MY SKEPTICISM? YES, YES, I DO. DO I HAVE MY CONCERNS? YES, I DO. DO I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE FOLLOWING UP? I'M MEETING WITH THE COMMISSIONER? THAT WE'RE EXPRESSING OURSELVES IN THAT WAY AND WE HAVE A PATHWAY TO HARD FOLLOW UP AND ACCOUNTABILITY? ABSOLUTELY. I WANT TO SAY THAT THOSE — THE MISMANAGEMENT THAT HAS BEEN REPORTED, THAT WE'VE SEEN IS FROM — IT IS FROM PREVIOUS LEADERSHIP, IT NEEDS TO BE VETTED, IT NEEDS TO BE EXPLORED, IT NEEDS TO BE INVESTIGATED, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT OUR CURRENT STAFF, WHO HAVE PUT THIS WORK IN FRONT OF US SHOULD BE LIVING WITH THE GHOST OF OUR PREVIOUS STAFF THAT LED THE CHARGE ON SOME OF THAT OTHER ACTIVITY. THAT IS MY PERSONAL VIEW. SO, YOU KNOW, AGAIN WE WILL, YOU KNOW, WE WILL HAVE PLENTY OF TIME TO TALK ABOUT THIS. I THINK I AM IN AGREEMENT WITH THE CRITIQUES THAT MY COLLEAGUES HAVE LAID FORWARD HERE, BUT I ALSO WANT TO SAY THAT YOU KNOW, SOME OF THESE BROADER ISSUES — I DON'T SEE HOW THEY HAVE A MATERIAL CONNECTION TO THIS EXPLICIT ITEM THAT IS IN FRONT OF US THAT WE ARE VOTING ON RIGHT NOW. SO THAT'S WHAT MY VOTE IS ABOUT, THE EXPLICIT ITEMS WE'RE VOTING ON, YOU KNOW. I WAS OPEN TO A DIFFERENT WAY OF US PROCEEDING FORWARD, WE DIDN'T PERCEIVE IT THAT WAY, THAT'S OKAY. I THINK WE SHOULD GO AHEAD AND PROCEED WITH THIS. THAT'S MY RATIONAL ON WHY I AM SUPPORTING THIS TODAY. [2:14:23] **Aurin Chowdhury**: THANK YOU MR. PRESIDENT. COUNCIL MEMBER ELLISON, I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS AND I THINK I WILL SPEAK FOR MYSELF, LIKE, IT IS REALLY, REALLY DIFFICULT TO NOT GET THESE QUESTIONS ANSWERED AND JUST HAVE THEM HANGING OVER AND OVER AGAIN. IT MAY NOT COME BEFORE US IN THE DAIS, BUT IT'S DISHEARTENING. I RESPECT WHAT YOU'VE SAID ABOUT THESE ITEMS IN SPECIFIC, AND I DO WANT TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THE GOOD WORK BEING DONE. I DO HOPE THIS ADMINISTRATION WILL ANSWER SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS AND TAKE ON THE BURDEN OF PROVING THAT THINGS HAVE CHANGED TO THE PUBLIC BECAUSE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE COMMUNITY IS ASKING FOR SO I WILL BE SUPPORTING THESE CONTRACTS. IT'S ABOUT THESE INDIVIDUALS AND THE COMMUNITY BEING ABLE TO DO THIS WORK. [2:15:10] **Elliott Payne**: SEEING NO ONE ELSE IN QUEUE, I WILL ASK THE CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL. [2:15:20] **Casey Carl**: COUNCIL MEMBER OSMAN, ABSTAIN. RAINVILLE, AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER CHAVEZ AYE, COUNCIL MEMBER VETAW AYE, COUNCIL MEMBER ELLISON AYE, COUNCIL MEMBER KOSKI AYE, COUNCIL MEMBER WONSLEY ABSTAIN, COUNCIL MEMBER JENKINS AYE, COUNCIL MEMBER PALMISANO AYE, COUNCIL MEMBER CHOWDHURY, AYE COUNCIL MEMBER CASHMAN AYE, VICE PRESIDENT CHUGTAI, AYE PRESIDENT PAYNE, NAY. THERE ARE 10 AYES, 1 NAY, AND 2 ABSTENTIONS. [2:15:55] **Elliott Payne**: THAT ITEM CARRIES AND THAT REPORT IS COMPLETED. THE NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS IS NOTICE OF ORDINANCE INTRODUCTIONS. WE HAVE ONE NOTICE TODAY. THIS IS FROM ME AND VICE PRESIDENT CHUGTAI WHO ARE GIVING NOTICE OF INTENT TO INTRODUCE AN ORDINANCE AMENDING PROVISIONS RELATED TO COUNCIL STAFF AND POLICY RESEARCH AND OVERSIGHT FUNCTIONS. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THIS NOTICE? MAYBE CITY ATTORNEY, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM AND REMIND FOLKS OF THE BACKGROUND? [2:16:27] **Kristyn Anderson**: SURE COUNCIL PRESIDENT AN COUNCIL MEMBERS. SO THIS ITEM IS TO, ESSENTIALLY FIX OUR ORDINANCES TO GEL WITH THE CHARTER. IF YOU ALL REMEMBER I SENT OUT A MEMORANDUM TO THIS GROUP ABOUT SOME INCONSISTENCIES OF THE EXISTING ORDINANCE WITH THE CHARTER. SO, YOU KNOW I AM SURE THAT WE WILL GET INTO GREAT DETAIL WHEN THIS MOVES FORWARD, BUT ESSENTIALLY IT'S REALLY TO ALIGN THE ORDINANCES WITH THE CHARTER REQUIREMENTS AND PROVISIONS. [2:16:59] **Elliott Payne**: THANK YOU FOR THAT EXPLANATION. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? SEEING NONE, THAT NOTICE IS HERE BY GIVEN AND NO FURTHER ACTION IS REQUIRED AT THIS TIME. THE NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS IS THE INTRODUCTION AND REFERRAL CALENDAR. WE HAVE SEVERAL INTRODUCTIONS TODAY. OUR FIRST NOTICE IS FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CASHMAN INTRODUCING THE SUBJECT MATTER OF AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE STREETS AND SIDEWALK CODE, AMENDING PROVISIONS TO ALLOW FOR THE CREATION OF A GEORGE FLOYD PEDESTRIAN MALL AS PART OF THE 38th STREET IN CHICAGO AVENUE RECONSTRUCTION PROJECT. THIS INTRODUCTION WAS POSTPONED AT OUR LAST MEETING AS STATE STATUTE REQUIRES THAT FINDINGS OF FACT ARE DRAFTED PRIOR TO THE FIRST READING OF AN ORDINANCE. AFTER DISCUSSION, I UNDERSTAND THAT FINDINGS WILL NOT BE AVAILABLE UNTIL LATER THIS YEAR AND I WILL BE MOVING TODAY TO POSTPONE INTRODUCTION FOR THE FIRST READING OF THIS ORDINANCE TO OUR MEETING SCHEDULED FOR DECEMBER 11, 2025. COUNCIL MEMBER JENKINS? [2:18:02] **Andrea Jenkins**: THANK YOU PRESIDENT PAYNE. YOU KNOW, I JUST WANTED TO TAKE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO THIS INTRODUCTION AND TO SOME OF THE EVENTS THAT HAVE HAND OVER THE PAST COUPLE HOURS AS WE'VE BEEN SITTING HERE. I'VE BEEN WORKING ON REVITALIZING 38th AND CHICAGO FOR OVER 20 YEARS SINCE 2000. I PROBABLY — NO, I'M SURE THAT'S LONGER THAN ANYBODY IN THIS ENTIRE ROOM HAVE ADVOCATED AND WITNESSED DIRECTLY SUPPORTED THE CREATION OF THE CHICAGO AVENUE FINE ARTS CENTER, SMOKE IN THE PIT, THE INITIAL COFFEE SHOP THAT REOPENED THERE, BLACK EYE COFFEE, THE THIRD PLACE PHOTOGRAPHY STUDIOS, CONSIGNMENT STORES, AND OTHER RETAIL OPPORTUNITIES. [2:19:07] **Andrea Jenkins**: ON MAY 25, 2020, ALL OF THAT CHANGED. GEORGE FLOYD WAS MURDERED AT THIS INTERSECTION. THIS TRAUMATIC EVENT HAS PARALYZED OUR COMMUNITY. IT IS PAINFUL FOR ME TO SEE HOW THIS HAS DIVIDED OUR COMMUNITY. TO BE CLEAR, I'M USING A TERM DIVIDED VERY LOOSELY BECAUSE OVERWHELMINGLY, 70% OF THE 6,000 RESIDENTS AND FOUR NEIGHBORHOODS SURROUNDING GEORGE FLOYD SQUARE, BY AN ORGANIZATION RESPECTED BY THIS BODY, HOWEVER YEARS OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS SPENT ARE BEING DISREGARDED BY THIS BODY. THIS DELAY WILL DRIVE UP THE COST, DELAY THE WORK UNTIL MAYBE 2026, AND THERE WILL ALWAYS BE DISAGREEMENTS IN ANY COMMUNITY AND ANY SOCIETY, ALWAYS. IT IS OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO DEMONSTRATE LEADERSHIP AND MAKE UNPOPULAR DECISIONS WHEN THE DATA LEADS US TO THESE DECISIONS. SO, YOU KNOW, WE'LL MOVE FORWARD I GUESS WITH THIS DELAY. IT IS A COMPLETE DISSERVICE TO THE THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE STATED THEIR OPINION, PARTICULARLY AFRICAN AMERICAN FOLKS THAT LIVE DIRECTLY IN THAT COMMUNITY, WHO HAVE SAID WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD NOW. I'M SORRY, A STUDY IS NOT MOVING FORWARD. I DON'T CARE HOW YOU FRAME IT, IT IS DELAYING THIS PROJECT FOR A YEAR AND A HALF. SO, THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS, THANK YOU. [2:21:26] **Linea Palmisano**: MR. CHAIR, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK PUBLIC WORKS STAFF IF SHE IS STILL HERE. I SEE BOTH OF THEM THERE. IF THEY COULD REMIND US ABOUT SOME OF THE THINGS THEY'VE SAID ABOUT A TIMELINE GIVEN WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW IN THIS SPACE OF MOVING FORWARD. ALSO, I WAS HOPING YOU COULD REMIND US OF THE STATE LAW REGARDING PEDESTRIAN PLAZAS. I DON'T THINK A PEDESTRIAN MALL IS ALLOWED IN A SPACE LIKE THIS. [2:22:04] **Tim Sexton**: COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCIL MEMBER PALMISANO, TIM SEXTON FROM PUBLIC WORKS. I CAN SPEAK ABOUT THE TIMELINE WE'RE WORKING ON HERE. WHEN WE INITIALLY PRESENTED THE CONCEPT LAYOUT LAST YEAR, WE WERE HOPING TO GET CONSTRUCTION STARTED IN SUMMER OR FALL OF THIS CURRENT CALENDAR YEAR, 2025. AT THIS POINT, YOU KNOW, IF WE WERE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE LEGISLATIVE DIRECTIVE, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD BE AT APPROXIMATELY THE SAME POINT IN 2025 WHERE WE WOULD BE PROPOSING A CONCEPT LAYOUT OR HAVING SOME OF THAT INFORMATION AND CONSTRUCTION AT THE EARLIEST WOULD START IN MOST LIKELY FALL OF 2026. DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? [2:23:05] **Linea Palmisano**: YEAH, I THINK SO. MY UNDERSTANDING THAT YOU CAN PUT PEDESTRIAN MALLS ON A ROUTE. CAN YOU COMMENT ON THE THINGS THAT NEED TO HAPPEN? DO WE HAVE ANY INDICATION THAT ANY OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS, INCLUDING THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS ARE IN AGREEMENT WITH THE PEDESTRIAN PLAZA IN TERMS OF APPROVING IT? [2:23:25] **Margaret Anderson Kelliher**: COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCIL MEMBER PALMISANO, I'M THE C.O.O. FOR THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS. I THINK THERE ARE A FEW QUESTIONS. AS A PRACTICE, THE CITY IS NOT THE DETERMINING VOTER ON AN ISSUE LIKE THIS. THAT'S BEEN OUR PRACTICE IN THE PAST. IT'S THAT THE CITY WOULD NOT SPEAK OUT OR OBJECT. THEY WOULD STAY SILENT TO ALLOW FOR THOSE OTHER PROPERTY OWNERS IMPACTED TO DECIDE. THAT HAS BEEN THE PRACTICE. SO, TO THAT QUESTION, WE USUALLY DON'T OPINE, NO MATTER WHO THE OWNER IS, CPED HAS BEEN DELEGATED ON THAT ISSUE. THEY'RE THE OWNER OF RECORD RIGHT NOW OF THE PEOPLE'S WAY. [2:24:20] **Margaret Anderson Kelliher**: SO ON THE ISSUE OF PEDESTRIAN MALLS, OF COURSE WE FOUGHT HARD AT THE LEGISLATURE TO GET AN UPDATE TO THIS STATUTE, TO HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY TO POSSIBLY USE IT. SO, UNDER THE MINNESOTA STATUE 430.011, THERE IS THE PEDESTRIAN MALL ORDINANCE. UNDER THAT IS MINNESOTA STATUTE SUBDIVISION 6A. THERE IT'S VERY CLEAR THAT MUNICIPAL STATE AID ROUTE IS NOT ELIGIBLE TO BE A PEDESTRIAN MALL. I DO NOT KNOW WHY WE HAVE NOT ELEVATED THAT PREVIOUSLY. I THINK IT'S BECAUSE, AND I WILL SAY THIS, I THINK IT'S BECAUSE we OCCASIONALLY REMOVE FROM THE MSA ROUTES THROUGH A PROCESS WITH MnDOT, WE CAN REMOVE SEGMENTS OF AN MSA ROUTE. HOWEVER, I THINK THAT THIS IS GOING TO LEAD TO QUITE A DISCUSSION WITH OUR LEGISLATIVE AUTHORS, ONES WHO ARE STILL SERVING IN THE LEGISLATURE, THE COMMITTEES JUST WENT THROUGH, 162.09 IS PRETTY CLEAR ABOUT NO PEDESTRIAN MALLS ON MSA ROUTES. SO THAT IS GOING TO BE A BIG QUESTION IN THIS FINDING OF FACT EXERCISE. [2:25:40] **Linea Palmisano**: THANK YOU, I'LL TRY TO BE BRIEF WITH THE REST OF MY COMMENTS. COUNCIL MEMBER JENKINS, PEOPLE BEFORE HER, AND MAYOR FREY HAVE LED. THEY PUT OUT A VISION AND TODAY NINE OF YOU SAID NO TO THAT VISION. I WOULD BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T POINT OUT THAT THIS WEEK AT THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING, MEMBERS OF THIS BODY MADE REFERENCE TO A LETTER WE RECEIVED FROM THE HOMEGROWN GROUP AND REQUESTED AMENDMENTS TO THE BOULEVARD AMENDMENT. THEY SAID WE CREATE WORK GROUPS LIKE THIS TO GET COMMUNITY INPUT FROM EXPERTS. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT WE LISTEN TO THAT FEEDBACK WHEN WE RECEIVE IT. NOW HERE WE ARE IGNORING OVERWHELMINGLY CLEAR FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY AND FROM NEIGHBORING BUSINESSES. THIS COUNCIL FEELS CLEARLY MORE INTERESTED IN TESTING OUT YOUR NEW POWERS AND DELAYING PROGRESS AND WASTING TAXPAYER DOLLARS, MILLIONS OF TAXPAYER DOLLARS THAN HONORING — [2:26:40] **Elliott Payne**: DESCRIBING MOTIVE. [2:26:45] **Linea Palmisano**: THIS BODY IS NOT LISTENING TO THE COMMUNITY. LET'S CALL A SPADE TO SPADE HERE. IF THE BODY ONLY HONORS COMMUNITY FEEDBACK WHEN IT ALIGNS WITH YOUR VISION, THAT'S NOT DEMOCRACY, THAT'S AN ECHO CHAMBER. WE PUT IN THE WORK, WE LISTENED, STAFF LISTENED, AND STAFF HAS PROPOSED A DESIGN THAT REFLECTS THE DESIRES OF THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE AND WORK AND OPERATE AROUND 38th AND CHICAGO. THE PEOPLE TOLD US WHAT THEY WANT AND IT IS NOT A PEDESTRIAN PLAZA. IN FACT, THEY ACTIVELY OPPOSE THIS PEDESTRIAN PLAZA CONCEPT. THEY ACTIVELY OPPOSE IT. THEY WANT THE OPEN FLEXIBLE DESIGN AND THEY WANT IT NOW, NOT AT SOME UNDETERMINED TIME IN THE FUTURE. IT IS BEYOND TIME THAT WE GIVE THEM WHAT THEY ASKED FOR AND NOT GO DOWN THIS NEW PATH. [2:27:40] **Robin Wonsley**: THANK YOU PRESIDENT PAYNE. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO NAME, AT LEAST FOR ME AND THE PUBLIC RECORD, BECAUSE THIS IS ACTUALLY — I WOULD SAY IT'S A HISTORIC VOTE THAT WE'RE TAKING AND WHY I AM TAKING IT. IT'S ACTUALLY GETTING QUITE LOST IN THE CONVERSATION ABOUT BUSES, PEDESTRIAN MALLS, AND COMPLEXES. I CAN'T UNDERSTAND HOW IN 2025, AS WE'RE APPROACHING A FIVE YEAR ANNIVERSARY WITH THAT, ANYONE CAN THINK THAT THE BEST WAY TO HONOR THE FACT THAT THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS ALLOWS OFFICER DEREK CHAUVIN AND MANY OTHERS TO NOT ONLY BRUTALIZE GEORGE FLOYD BUT ULTIMATELY KILL HIM IN FRONT OF THE WORLD AND THE PLACE IN WHICH THE COMMUNITY HAS GATHERED IN THE PAST FIVE YEARS AND PROTECTED A SACRED GROUND TO SERVE AS A REMINDER TO US OF WHAT WE DID AND TO NOT DO IT AGAIN. THE WAY IN WHICH THE CITY IS APPROACHING THAT IS SAYING ESSENTIALLY LET'S RUN BUSES UP AND DOWN THAT SAME STREET. LET'S RUN BUSES AND CARS ACROSS THE VERY PLACE WHERE GEORGE FLOYD WAS KILLED. THAT TO ME IS A SIGNAL OF ERASURE. THAT'S WHAT THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS AND PARTICULARLY UNDER THIS MAYORAL ADMINISTRATION THAT WE KEEP RUNNING INTO, WE HAVE THE SAME DYNAMIC, EVEN WITH THE THIRD PRECINCT DISCUSSION WITH LET'S JUST PUT A DEMOCRACY CENTER THERE. LET'S NOT ACKNOWLEDGE THE HARMS THAT TOOK PLACE THERE, THAT WAS VERY MUCH CONNECTED TO HOW WE GOT TO GEORGE FLOYD, THE PLACE THAT HARBORED SOME OF THE MOST BRUTAL OFFICERS IN THIS CITY AND IT WAS KNOWN. IT'S BEEN DOCUMENTED. YET, LET'S DO A DEMOCRACY. LET'S NOT ACKNOWLEDGE THAT HISTORY. NEXT, OKAY, LET'S MOVE TO THE CORE EPIC CENTER OF WHERE THINGS POPPED OFF AND THIS KILLING, THIS MURDER HAPPENED AND LET'S THROW A BUS ON THERE AND THEN DANGLE NICE THINGS, STREET INFRASTRUCTURE TO THE COMMUNITY AS IF THEY COULDN'T HAVE THAT BEFOREHAND. YOU CAN STILL HAVE THAT. YOU STILL DESERVE THAT AND THAT SHOULD NOT BE CONTINGENT UPON YOUR ABILITY TO CONCEDE TO THE FACT THAT THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS AND THE WHITE SUPREMACIST DYNAMICS WANTS TO ERASE THE HISTORY OF WHAT HAPPENED BECAUSE WE HAVE A PROBLEM WITH HOLDING OURSELVES ACCOUNTABLE WHEN WE CONSTANTLY ENACT HARM ON BLACK PEOPLE IN THE CITY, AND IT'S STILL HAPPENING. HE STAYED RIGHT ACROSS THE CORNER FROM WHERE GEORGE FLOYD WAS MURDER AND OUR POLICE KILLED THAT BLACK MAN. [2:30:28] **Robin Wonsley**: THIS IS STILL HAPPENING AND THAT'S WHAT IS GROUNDING MY DECISION. IT'S NOT ABOUT STREET INFRASTRUCTURE. THESE INVESTMENTS CAN STILL HAPPEN AND CITY STAFF TELLING YOU ANYTHING OTHERWISE, IT'S COMPLETELY FALSE. WE KNOW THEY CAN DO STREET REDESIGNS, WE CAN MAKE THAT HAPPEN IF THERE IS A POLITICAL WILL. RIGHT NOW, THE WILL IS OH, WE WILL ONLY DO THIS, WE WILL ONLY CONNECT INVESTMENT IN YOUR COMMUNITY IF YOU LET US ERASE YOU AND THAT IS PROBLEMATIC. [APPLAUSE] THAT'S NOT WHAT I WILL STAND FOR AND I WILL NOT LET MY VOTE REFLECT AND THAT'S WHAT IS CONSTANTLY GETTING LOST IN THIS. WE REDUCED GEORGE FLOYD'S MURDER TO STREET INFRASTRUCTURE AND WE'RE PACKAGING IT. THIS IS HOW YOU GET NICE THINGS TO A HISTORICALLY UNDER INVESTED BLACK COMMUNITY. LET'S CALL A SPADE A SPADE, WHAT IT IS. IT'S WHITE SUPREMACY WORKING AT ITS FINEST. THAT, FOR ME, WAS ENOUGH TO COME IN AND SAY NO. WE'LL FIND A DIFFERENT PATH AND I AM GLAD THAT COUNCIL MEMBER CHAVEZ LISTENED TO COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT STOOD ON BUSINESS AND STOOD ON THAT MORAL REMINDER AND SAID LET'S FIND A DIFFERENT PATH THAT HONORS THAT. AND THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO SPENDING THE REST OF MY TIME HERE DOING AS OPPOSED TO FIGURING OUT HOW WE CONTINUE TO ERASE THE ONGOING MISHAPS, MISTAKES, AND ABUSES OF THE CITY THAT IS CONSTANTLY BEING TARGETED TO BLACK PEOPLE. [APPLAUSE] [2:32:15] **Aurin Chowdhury**: I JUST WANTED TO — SOMETHING JUST POPPED UP FOR ME WHEN ANDERSON WAS TAKING THE QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS MINNESOTA STATE AID, I JUST WANTED TO PUT IN FOR THE RECORD THAT WHEN WE HAD OUR CLIMATE AND INFRASTRUCTURE MEETING THIS YEAR, WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE FLEXIBLE OPEN MODEL, WE WERE GIVEN INFORMATION FROM OUR CITY ATTORNEY AND THAT COMMITTEE THAT EVEN IF WE DID THIS FLEXIBLE OPEN MODEL, WE WOULD STILL NEED TO DO A PEDESTRIAN MALL ORDINANCE. THAT WAS IN THE RECORD, SO THAT IS SOMETHING TO CLARIFY WHO IT'S ADMINISTRATION WITH CITY ATTORNEYS, YOU WOULD — IT SOUNDS LIKE IF YOU HAVE TO REMOVE MSA DESIGNATION FOR A PEDESTRIAN MALL, YOU WOULD HAVE TO DO THAT ANYWAY. THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS STRIKING TO COME TO LIGHT IN THAT COMMITTEE. I REMEMBER HEARING THAT AND I THOUGHT OKAY, WE WILL HAVE TO DO PEDESTRIAN MALL ANYWAY FOR EITHER. AND ALSO, THERE IS ANOTHER DISCUSSION, RIGHT? IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS FLEXIBLE ARM VERSUS NOT THAT FLEXIBLE OPEN, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT MANY COMMUNITY MEMBERS HAVE INDICATED IS UNSAFE FOR WHAT HAPPENED IN BOURBON STREET IN NEW ORLEANS AND WOULD REQUIRE STRONGER BARRICADES. SO THAT ALSO PUTS INTO QUESTION WHAT YOU WOULD NEED FOR A PEDESTRIAN MALL ORDINANCE EVEN INTO A FLEXIBLE OPEN MODEL. SO I JUST WANTED TO STATE FOR THE FACT THAT THE POINT ABOUT US HAVING TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT MSA STREETS AND TALKING TO OUR STATE LEGISLATORS, IT'S FROM THE INFORMATION THAT I HAVE RECEIVED IN COMMITTEE AND HERE TODAY, IT SOUNDS LIKE NO MATTER WHAT, THAT IS A DISCUSSION THAT WOULD BE TAKEN ON. [2:34:20] **Kristyn Anderson**: COUNCIL PRESIDENT PAYNE, COUNCIL MEMBERS, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE FLEXIBLE OPTIONS, SINCE IT'S NOT A PERMANENT BARRIER THAT IT WOULDN'T CONSTITUTE A PEDESTRIAN MALL UNDER THE STATUTE. THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING. [2:34:40] **Elliott Payne**: I WOULD LIKE TO GET AN ADMINISTRATIVE FOLLOW UP ON THAT. WE GOT DIFFERENT INFORMATION IN OUR CLIMATE AND INFRASTRUCTURE COMMITTEE. IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A FLEXIBLE ARM THAT A CAR CAN GO THROUGH, THAT'S UNACCEPTABLE. [2:34:50] **Andrea Jenkins**: THANK YOU COUNCIL PRESIDENT PAYNE. I JUST WANTED TO REITERATE, THERE IS NO PLAN THAT IS BEING OFFERED THAT WOULD HAVE BUSES AND CARS DRIVING OVER THE SPOT THAT GEORGE FLOYD WAS MURDERED IN. I ALSO WANT TO NOTE FOR THE RECORD THAT WE LITERALLY HAD TO TAKE A RECESS THIS MORNING BECAUSE AFRICAN AMERICAN COMMUNITY MEMBERS SHOWED UP AT OUR CITY COUNCIL MEETING AND SAID THEY FEEL LIKE THEY ARE BEING ERASED BY THIS BODY RIGHT NOW. SO, THAT IS A REALITY AS WELL. THANK YOU. [2:35:40] **Elliott Payne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asey Carl**: MR. PRESIDENT, I JUST WANTED TO REMIND EVERYONE THAT NUMBER ONE IS NOT AS LISTED ON THE AGENDA, YOU SUBSTITUTED A MOTION TO POSTPONE THAT TO DECEMBER 11, 2025. THAT ONE IS A MOTION TO POSTPONE. EVERYTHING IS THE NOTICE FIRST READING AND REFERRAL TO THE COMMITTEE AS YOU READ THEM. [2:37:17] **Elliott Payne**: CORRECT, SO MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THOSE INTRODUCTIONS, INCLUDING THE MOTION TO POSTPONE TO DECEMBER 11, THE CONSIDERATION FOR THE GEORGE FLOYD PEDESTRIAN MALL. [2:37:28] **Aisha Chughtai**: MOVED. [2:37:30] **Aurin Chowdhury**: SECOND. [2:37:34] **Linea Palmisano**: LOOK FOR FURTHER CLARIFICATION BECAUSE OF THE VETO. MR. CHAIR, JUST FURTHER CLARIFICATION ON HOW THIS COORDINATES TOGETHER WITH THE VETO OVERRIDE THIS MORNING, SO THE VETO OVERRIDE THIS MORNING MEANS THAT LEGISLATIVE DIRECTIVE GOES THROUGH AND WE INTEND TO PAUSE AND STUDY A PEDESTRIAN MALL CONCEPT AFTER WHICH THIS IS DECEMBER 10TH OR IT'S DECEMBER 11, WHERE YOU ARE POSTPONING THIS ORDINANCE TO. IS THAT ACCURATE? [2:38:18] **Aisha Chughtai**: THANK YOU, I JUST WANTED TO ADDRESS THE QUESTION THAT COUNCIL MEMBER PALMISANO BROUGHT UP. THERE IS IN THE FILE, WITH THE LEGISLATIVE DIRECTIVE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CASHMAN THAT WAS VETOED AND THE VETO WAS OVERWRITTEN SUCCESSFULLY TODAY, THERE IS A MEMO FROM PUBLIC WORKS THAT IS ALSO ATTACH IN THAT FILE, WHICH WALKS THROUGH ALL OF THE THINGS THAT NEED TO HAPPEN BETWEEN NOW AND DECEMBER. SO, EVERYTHING FROM A TECHNICAL ANALYSIS TO CONSENT LAYOUT FINALIZATIONS, FINDINGS OF FACT, FINDINGS OF FACT REPORT FOR THE PROVISION OF THE STATE STATUTE THAT ADDRESSES HOW PEDESTRIAN MALLS ARE ESTABLISHED. SO ALL OF THAT IS SUPPOSED TO COME BACK TO THE CLIMATE AND INFRASTRUCTURE COMMITTEE DURING THAT CYCLE THAT ENDS ON DECEMBER 11TH. SINCE ALL OF THAT IS COMING TO COMMITTEE AT THE BEGINNING OF THAT CYCLE, THAT FOLLOWING DECEMBER 11TH MEETING IS WHEN THOSE FINDINGS OF FACT WOULD BE READY AND ORDINANCE FOR THE PEDESTRIAN MALLS THAT WE ARE CONSIDERING HERE, WHAT WOULD BE TAKEN UP. [2:39:41] **Linea Palmisano**: THANK YOU. I AM AWARE OF THE PUBLIC WORKS MEMO. I UNDERSTAND THAT THE WORK NEEDS TO BE COMPLETED BEFORE FINDINGS OF FACT CAN BE MADE. THIS CREATES SO MANY DELAYS OF OTHER PUBLIC WORKS PLAN PROJECTS, AS WELL AS REAPPROPRIATED COSTS FOR THIS WORK. IT WILL DAMAGE EVERY — ALL THE OTHER WORK GOING ON IN PUBLIC WORKS THIS YEAR. THANK YOU. [2:40:20] **Elliott Payne**: SEEING NO ONE ELSE IN QUEUE, I WILL ASK THE CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL. [2:40:25] **Casey Carl**: COUNCIL MEMBER OSMAN AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER RAINVILLE NO ON ONE AND AYE ON THE REST. COUNCIL MEMBER CHAVEZ AYE, COUNCIL MEMBER VETAW NO ON 1, AYE ON THE OTHERS. COUNCIL MEMBER ELLISON IS ABSENT. COUNCIL MEMBER KOSKI AYE, COUNCIL MEMBER WONSLEY AYE, COUNCIL MEMBER JENKINS, NO ON 1, AYE ON THE REST. COUNCIL MEMBER PALMISANO, NO ON ITEM 1, YES ON ITEM 2 THROUGH 6. COUNCIL MEMBER CHOWDHURY AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER CASHMAN IS ABSENT. VICE PRESIDENT CHUGTAI AYE, PRESIDENT PAYNE AYE. [2:41:06] **Casey Carl**: THERE ARE 11 AYES EXCEPT FOR NUMBER 1 WHICH CARRIES WITH 4 NOES. [2:41:13] **Elliott Payne**: THOSE ITEMS CARRY AND THE NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS IS RESOLUTIONS. TODAY WE HAVE ONE HONORARY RESOLUTION RECOGNIZING WOMEN'S HISTORY MONTH. ARE THERE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS? MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO ADOPT THIS RESOLUTION? [2:41:25] **Aisha Chughtai**: MOVED. [2:41:26] **Katie Koski**: SECOND. [2:41:27] **Casey Carl**: COUNCIL MEMBER OSMAN AYE, COUNCIL MEMBER RAINVILLE AYE, COUNCIL MEMBER CHAVEZ AYE, COUNCIL MEMBER VETAW AYE, COUNCIL MEMBER KOSKI AYE, COUNCIL MEMBER WONSLEY AYE, COUNCIL MEMBER JENKINS AYE, COUNCIL MEMBER PALMISANO AYE, COUNCIL MEMBER CHOWDHURY AYE, VICE PRESIDENT CHUGTAI AYE, PRESIDENT PAYNE AYE. THERE ARE 11 AYES. [2:41:54] **Elliott Payne**: THAT CARRIES AND AS WE DISPENSED WITH UNFINISHED BUSINESS AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING. OUR NEXT IS FOR CLOSED SESSION, AS WE RECESS FOR CLOSED SESSION, I WILL ASK IF THERE ARE ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS. NOT SEEING ANY, WITH THAT, WE COMPLETED ALL THE ITEMS ON OUR AGENDA AND WILL CONSIDER THE REQUEST FOR A CLOSED SESSION, TO RECEIVE A BRIEFING ON THE LITIGATION MATTER LISTED ON THE AGENDA. BEFORE I MOVE TO CLOSE THE MEETING, I RECOGNIZE THE CITY ATTORNEY TO PROVIDE THE LEGAL BASIS FOR THE REQUESTED CLOSED SESSION. [2:42:30] **Kristyn Anderson**: THANK YOU COUNCIL PRESIDENT AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS THE LITIGATION MATTER OF THE UNITED STATES AGAINST THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS, IN U.S. DISTRICT COURT THE DISTRICT OF MINNEAPOLIS, YOUR LAWYERS WISH TO GIVE YOU A BRIEFING ON THIS LITIGATION MATTER. MINNESOTA STATUTE 13D.05 SUBDIVISION 3B, THEY CAN CLOSE THE MEETING FOR THE PURPOSE OF ATTORNEY-CLIENT COMMUNICATION AS PERMITTED BY THE ATTORNEY-CLIENT PRIVILEGE AND IN CONSIDERING THE MOTION, THE COUNCIL SHOULD WEIGH THE RIGHT OF THE PUBLIC WHAT THE GOVERNMENT IS DOING TO PRESERVE THEIR CONFIDENCE. [2:43:18] **Elliott Payne**: I MOVE TO CLOSE THE MEETING, UNDER MINNESOTA STATUTE 13D.05 FOR THE PURPOSE OF RECEIVING A BRIEFING OF THE LITIGATION MATTER OF THE MINNEAPOLIS POLICE DEPARTMENT. MOTION AND A SECOND. [2:43:30] **Aisha Chughtai**: MOTION. [2:43:32] **Katie Koski**: SECOND. [2:43:33] **Casey Carl**: COUNCIL MEMBER OSMAN AYE, COUNCIL MEMBER RAINVILLE AYE, COUNCIL MEMBER CHAVEZ AYE, COUNCIL MEMBER VETAW, AYE COUNCIL MEMBER KOSKI AYE, COUNCIL MEMBER WONSLEY, AYE COUNCIL MEMBER JENKINS, AYE COUNCIL MEMBER PALMISANO, AYE, COUNCIL MEMBER CHOWDHURY, AYE, COUNCIL MEMBER CHUGTAI AYE, PRESIDENT PAYNE AYE. [2:43:55] **Casey Carl**: THERE ARE 11 AYES. [2:43:57] **Elliott Payne**: THE BROADCAST OF THIS MEETING WILL CONTINUE AND THE COUNCIL WILL RECONVENE IN PUBLIC AFTER WE CONCLUDED THE CLOSED SESSION. LET'S TAKE A 20 MINUTE BREAK BEFORE STARTING CLOSED SESSION, SO I'LL RETURN TO CLOSED SESSION AT 12:40. [GAVEL] [3:26:56] **Elliott Payne**: THE TIME IS NOW 1:01 P.M. AND THE CITY COUNCIL HAS RECONVENED IN OPEN SESSION FOLLOWING THE CLOSED SESSION. I WILL ASK THE CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL. [3:27:08] **Casey Carl**: COUNCIL MEMBER OSMAN IS ABSENT, COUNCIL MEMBER RAINVILLE HERE, COUNCIL MEMBER CHAVEZ IS ABSENT, COUNCIL MEMBER VETAW PRESENT, COUNCIL MEMBER ELLISON IS ABSENT, COUNCIL MEMBER KOSKI PRESENT, COUNCIL MEMBER WONSLEY PRESENT, COUNCIL MEMBER JENKINS IS ABSENT, COUNCIL MEMBER PALMISANO PRESENT, COUNCIL MEMBER CHOWDHURY, PRESENT. COUNCIL MEMBER CHAVEZ, PRESENT. COUNCIL MEMBER CASHMAN IS ABSENT. PRESIDENT PAYNE IS ABSENT AND VICE PRESIDENT CHUGTAI, PRESENT. [3:27:35] **Casey Carl**: THERE ARE EIGHT INDIVIDUALS PRESENT. [3:27:38] **Aisha Chughtai**: LET THE RECORD REFLECT WE HAVE A QUORUM. WE COMPLETED ALL BUSINESS TO COME BEFORE THE BODY TODAY AND WITH NO OBJECTION, THIS MEETING IS HERE BY ADJOURNED. THANK YOU AND HAVE A GOOD WEEKEND EVERYONE.