LEAVING EVERYONE AND WELCOME. >> I WILL CALL THIS BLOOMINGTON CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO ORDER TONIGHT. IT IS MONDAY, AUGUST 25TH, 2025. THANKS TO EVERYONE WHO'S JOINED US HERE IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS. THANKS TO EVERYBODY WATCHING ONLINE. WE WILL BEGIN OUR MEETING AS WE ALWAYS DO IF YOU'RE ABLE IF YOU COULD PLEASE STAND REMOVE ANY HEAD, COME AND JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. FOR ONCE AGAIN, THANKS TO EVERYBODY FOR BEING HERE. COUNSEL THANKS FOR BEING HERE. STAFF AS WELL EVERYBODY ELSE ON THIS GORGEOUS MONDAY EVENING. OUR FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS TONIGHT COUNCIL IS TO PROVE TONIGHT'S AGENDA AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE NOTICED IT'S KIND OF A BEEFY AGENDA TONIGHT. WE GOT A LOT GOING ON UNDER OUR INTRODUCTORY ITEMS. WE'LL GET AN INTRODUCTION OF NEW EMPLOYEES AND I THINK THAT'S IN OUR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT. OUR CONSENT AGENDA INCLUDES 18 DIFFERENT ITEMS. COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO HAS OUR CONSENT AGENDA THIS EVENING UNDER HEARINGS, RESOLUTIONS AND ORDINANCES. WE'VE GOT A FULL SLATE OF STUFF GOING ON MEAN 4.1 IS A PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING OUR AIRPORT PARKING STUDY ORDINANCE ITEM 4.2 IS ANOTHER PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING ST MARK'S COMP PLAN AMENDMENT ITEM 4.3 A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE BLOOMINGTON COMMUNITY HEALTH AND WELLNESS CENTER. ITEM 4.4 IS THE HEIGHTS CONDOMINIUM ASSOCIATION HOUSING IMPROVEMENT AREA PROJECT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND THAT'S AN AUTHORIZATION OF AN INTEREST FUND LOAN AND A BOND ISSUANCE ITEM 4.5 IS A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN AMENDMENT FOR 2025 THROUGH 2034 AND THAT ALSO IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND ITEM 4.6 IS A RESOLUTION DECLARING INTENT TO REIMBURSE CERTAIN EXPENDITURES FROM PROCEEDS OF BONDS TO BE ISSUED BY THE CITY. ITEM 4.7 ANOTHER RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE ISSUANCE OF SALES SALE AND TAX EXEMPT GENERAL OBLIGATION C IP BONDS AND ITEM 4.8 A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE ISSUANCE AND SALE OF TAXABLE GENERAL OBLIGATION CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT BONDS. SO THAT'S ALL UNDER ITEM FOR AND THAT'S A LIKE I SAID THAT'S A HEFTY ONE FOR US TONIGHT COUNCIL ITEM FIVE UNDER ORGANIZATIONAL BUSINESS WE HAD TWO ITEMS THE FIRST BEING ITEM 5.1 THE PROJECT UPDATE FOR THE NINE MILE CREEK CORRIDOR RENEWAL COUNCIL GIVEN THE AMOUNT OF THINGS AND I KNOW HOW LONG OUR DISCUSSIONS ARE GOING TO GO ON ITEM FOUR I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE ITEM 5.1 TO OUR SEPTEMBER 8TH MEETING AND HAVE THAT DISCUSSION THEN. SO I WOULD OFFER THAT AS AN AMENDMENT TO TONIGHT'S PUBLISHED AGENDA AND WE'LL END OUR MEETING WITH ITEM 5.2 OUR CITY COUNCIL POLICY AND ISSUE UPDATES. LOT GOING ON TONIGHT COUNCIL WITH THE ONE CHANGE ANY ANY QUESTIONS OR UPDATES COUNCIL MEMBER WOMAN QUESTIONER DOES IT MAKE SENSE GIVEN WHAT WE'VE GOT TO GO ON AHEAD AND JUST EXTEND THE MEETING NOW? NO, WE'RE WE'RE GOING TO WORK TOWARD A COUNCIL MEMBER. WE'RE GOING TO WORK TOWARD IT IF THERE ARE NO OTHER ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS COUNCIL, I WILL MOVE THE AGENDA AS STATED WHICH WOULD MOVE ITEM 5.1 TO SEPTEMBER 8TH AND THE REST OF THE AGENDA STANDS. SECOND MOTION AND THE SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER CARTER TO ACCEPT A NIGHT'S AGENDA AS STATED NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO. WE WILL DIVE RIGHT IN. OUR FIRST ITEM IS INTRODUCTORY ITEMS ITEM 2.1 OUR INTRODUCTION OF NEW EMPLOYEES IS KIM BERGGREN IS GOING TO BE DOING THE HONORS TONIGHT. GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME. >> THANKS MAYOR AND COUNCIL. WE HAVE TWO EMPLOYEES FROM COMMITTEE DEVELOPMENT TO INTRODUCE US TONIGHT. FIRST I'LL INTRODUCE DILLON DILLON PALMER IS OUR NEW PLANNER AND JUST STARTED HERE ON JULY 8TH HE EARNED HIS BACHELOR'S DEGREE FROM GEORGE MASON UNIVERSITY WITH A MAJOR IN PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION AND A MASTER'S DEGREEROM ARKANSAS STATE UNIVERSITY IN PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION. HE WORKED MOST RECENTLY FOR FEMA AND MOVED HERE TO BLOOMINGTON FOR THIS ROLE FROM NORTHERN VIRGINIA. DILLON ENJOYS THE TRIPS, ENJOYS ROAD TRIPS AND VISITING HISTORIC SITES AND PARKS AS WELL. I JUST WANT TO SAY I'VE BEEN HERE JUST SHORT OF TWO MONTHS. I'VE REALLY ENJOYED MY TIME IN BLOOMINGTON SO FAR. I'M A BLOOMINGTON RESIDENT SO REALLY ENJOY THE CITY ALL THE DIFFERENT PARKS AND GETTING OUT TO EAT AT ALL THE DIFFERENT RESTAURANTS SO I REALLY LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH ALL THE RESIDENTS AND WORKING WITH YOU AS WELL. THANK YOU. WE'RE GLAD TO HAVE YOU HERE, DYLAN. AND TRUST ME, THE WEATHER IT'S ALWAYS LIKE THIS, DYLAN IT'S ALWAYS LIKE. SO NEXT I'LL INTRODUCE BRIAN LAVADA. HE'S A NEW BUILDING INSPECTOR ON OUR TEAM WHO STARTED ON JULY 14TH. BRIAN COMPLETED THE BUILDING INSPECTIONS TECHNOLOGY COURSE AT INVER HILLS COMMUNITY AND HE PREVIOUSLY WORKED AS AN INSPECTOR FOR SCOTT COUNTY AND THE MSP AIRPORT. BRIAN LIVES IN THE TWIN CITIES AND HAS FOR MOST OF HIS LIFE. HE HAS TWO ADULT KIDS AND IS GETTING MARRIED THIS WINTER IN FLORIDA. GOOD EVENING. WELCOME. I'M GOING ON MY FIFTH WEEK HERE. I LOVE IT. I LOVE SULFUR RIVER MY WHOLE LIFE. SO BLOOMINGTON IS I KNOW IT VERY, VERY WELL. I THE GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO WORK HERE. APPRECIATE IT. WELL, WE APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE TONIGHT. WE APPRECIATE YOUR TAKING THE POSITION HERE WITH BLOOMINGTON. GLAD TO HAVE YOU BOTH ON BOARD. I LIKE TO TELL ALL OF OUR NEW HIRES HOW IMPORTANT THE ROLES ARE AND THEY ARE BECAUSE IN A LOT OF WAYS YOU'RE THE FACE OF THE COMMUNITY. THAT'S WHAT WE DO UP HERE IS ONE THING BUT YOU GUYS ARE OUT IN THE COMMUNITY EVERY DAY. YOU'RE SEEING PEOPLE YOU'RE YOU'RE REPRESENTING BLOOMINGTON IN A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS AND IT'S A BIG RESPONSIBILITY. BUT I HAVE NO DOUBT YOU'RE UP TO THAT CHALLENGE. SO WELCOME ABOARD. VERY GLAD TO HAVE YOU AND LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU IN THE FUTURE. WELCOME THAT THEY MOVE ON 9 A.M. THREE ON OUR AGENDA OUR CONSENT BUSINESS COUNCIL MEMBER DALLESSANDRO YOU HAVE THE CONSENT AGENDA? >> I DO. MR. MAYOR, I HAVEN'T HEARD FROM ANYBODY AS IT RELATES TO HOLDS SO I'LL MAKE A FINAL CALL AND ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING TO HOLD? OKAY WONDERFUL. WELL, WE'RE GOING TO GET RIGHT TO IT TODAY. MR. MAYOR. I WILL MOVE A CONSENT AGENDA ITEM 3.1 THROUGH 3.18 SAYING MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER TO ACCEPT TONIGHT'S CONSENT AGENDA AS STATED. NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES 7070 THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO. APPRECIATE IT. WE'LL MOVE ON ITEM FOR OUR HEARINGS RESOLUTIONS AND ORDINANCES AND WE WILL START OFF TONIGHT WITH A PUBLIC HEARING. THIS IS ON ITEM 4.1. THIS IS AN AIRPORT PARKING STUDY ORDINANCE. WE HAVE A STAFF REPORT AHEAD OF THIS. I THINK MR. CENTENARIO MR. JOHNSON, MR. CENTENARIO COMING FORWARD GOING TO LEAD US THROUGH THIS. MR. JOHNSON AS WELL GIVING GOOD EVENING, MIKE. WELCOME. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. COUNCIL MEMBERS SO WE HAVE FIRST ON YOUR HEARINGS A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE AIRPORT PARKING ORDINANCE. THIS IS A PROJECT THAT'S BEEN GOING ON FOR SOME TIME NOW. WE STARTED WITH A AIRPORT PARKING FACILITIES MORATORIUM SEPTEMBER OF LAST YEAR AND REALLY KICKED OFF AIRPORT PARKING STUDY IN NOVEMBER OF LAST YEAR. WE WORKED TO GATHER DATA, MET WITH A WHOLE BUNCH OF STAKEHOLDERS AND DID SOME RESEARCH. WE HAD PLANNING COMMISSION AND STUDY SESSIONS IN MAY AND JUNE EARLIER THIS SUMMER AND NOW WE'RE AT THE FINAL STAGE. WE'RE HAVING PUBLIC HEARINGS. WE HAD A PLANNING COMMISSION PUBLIC HEARING IN JULY AND WE'RE OBVIOUSLY HERE BEFORE YOU TONIGHT AND JUST TO KNOW THAT THE THE MORATORIUM FOR AIRPORT PARKING FACILITIES DOES EXPIRE OCTOBER 10TH. SO WE'RE WE'RE ON TRACK FOR THE COUNCIL CERTAINLY FAMILIAR WITH WITH THESE ISSUES AT HAND BUT FOR MEMBERS WATCHING THE STUDY REALLY CAME OUT A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT CHALLENGES THEY HAVE BUT THE THERE ARE TWO REMOTE AIRPORT PARKING FACILITIES IN THE CITY BLOOMINGTON AND I WANT TO DRAW THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN REMOTE AIRPORT PARKING VERSUS HOTEL AIRPORT PARKING. THOSE ARE TREATED SEPARATELY IN THIS ORDINANCE. FIRST WE HAVE THE PARKING GO FACILITY. IT'S ABOUT 12.5 ACRES, ABOUT 1500 PARKING STALLS ALL SURFACE AND YOU KNOW, WITHIN 2019 WE STARTED APPROVING INTERIM USE PERMITS. SO TEMPORARY APPROVALS SUBJECT TO DEVELOPMENT DEVELOPMENT MILESTONES. WE WANTED TO SEE PHASED DEVELOPMENT OVER TIME. SO EVENTUALLY WHEN THOSE PHASE PHASES MATERIALIZED THERE WOULD BE NO REMOTE AIRPORT PARK ANYMORE. OBVIOUSLY THAT'S NOT WHAT'S MATERIALIZED WITH US TODAY. SIMILARLY WE HAVE THE PARKING SPOT FOR OUR PARKING FLY OR JUST PARKING FLY IT'S JUST A LITTLE BIT SMALLER BUT IT HAS MORE STALLS ABOUT YOU KNOW A LITTLE UNDER 2100 BECAUSE IT HAS A SURFACE LOT AND THEN ALSO SEVERAL LEVEL PARKING STRUCTURE AND BOTH OF THOSE SITES MAKE THE PARKING FLY SITE. IT'S A LITTLE BIT OLDER. IT'S BEEN OPERATIONAL OPERATION SINCE THE LATE 80S AND THE PARKING STRUCTURE WAS BUILT IN 1994. SIMILARLY IN 19 WE CONDITIONED IN INTERVIEWS PERMIT ON DEVELOPMENT MILESTONES TRYING TO PHASE DEVELOPMENT OR PHASE OUT REMOTE AREA PARKING AND THOSE APPROVALS YOU KNOW THE PANDEMIC OBVIOUSLY HAPPENED THAT DELAYED THINGS AND THEN THAT KIND OF LED TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY AND STUDYING THE ISSUE AT HAND. AND SO I WANTED TO FIRST TOUCH ON REMOTE AIRPORT PARKING AND THERE'S A DISTINCTION BETWEEN THE EXISTING OPERATORS PARKING GO AND PARKING FLY AND THEN ALSO A COUPLE OF OPPORTUNITIES FOR NEW REMOTE AIRPORT PARKING FACILITIES TO OPEN IN THE CITY BACK IN THE STUDY SESSION TIME WE DISCUSSED WHAT SORT OF ZONING APPROACH WE WANTED TO TAKE AND THAT RANGED ON THE LEFT FROM JUST MAKING A PERMITTED USE NO SPECIAL ZONING APPROVALS THAT WOULD BE NEEDED AND ON THE OTHER END OF THE SPECTRUM IS JUST PROHIBITING IT OUTRIGHT AND WE DIDN'T FEEL THAT THOSE AND THE FEEDBACK THAT WE HEARD WASN'T SUPPORTIVE OF EITHER OF THOSE. AND SO SOMEWHERE IN THE MIDDLE ULTIMATELY THE FEEDBACK WE GOT WAS TO ESTABLISH A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT PROCESS SO A PERMANENT PERMANENT RIGHTS THROUGH A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT BUT THEN ALSO HAVE SOME PERFORMANCE STANDARDS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT. SO WHAT THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE WOULD ESTABLISH IS A PERMIT RIGHTS TO DO REMOTE PARKING IN THE SIX TWO AND SIX HOUR ZONING DISTRICTS. SIX TWO IS MOST OF THE SIX TWO DISTRICT IS MADE UP BY THE MALL CAMPUS AND THEN THE MATRIX OUR DISTRICT IS THE AREA AROUND 34TH AND AMERICAN THE PERFORMANCE STANDARDS THAT ARE RECOMMENDED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION WOULD REQUIRE A SET ASIDE OR THREE ACRE SET ASIDE FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT. WE WANT TO SEE THAT DEVELOPMENT BE CONSISTENT WITH OUR ZONING DISTRICT AND OF COURSE THE SOUTH LOOP DISTRICT PLAN. IT WOULD ALLOW SURFACE PARKING . AND YOU KNOW ONE BIT OF CLARIFICATION FROM SOME COMMENTS WE GOT AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF SOME CLARIFICATION ON DEFERRED COMPLIANCE WHICH I'LL GET TO IN A MOMENT AND THEN ALSO THE ORDINANCE WOULD CREATE STANDARDS FOR NEW FACILITIES AND WHAT WE WANTED TO AVOID IS A PROLIFERATION OF REMOTE AIRPORT PARKING. SO WE FELT IT WAS A GOOD APPROACH TO ALLOW REMOTE AIRPORT PARKING FACILITIES WITHIN EXISTING PARKING STRUCTURES THAT HAVE EXCESS PARKING SUPPLY. SO IN TERMS OF THE TWO SCENARIOS WHERE WE MIGHT HAVE REMOTE AIRPORT PARKING WITHIN THE CITY BOTH IN A 6 TO 6 HOUR DISTRICT ARE THE EXISTING OPERATORS PARKING GO AND PARKING FLY AND THE NEW OPERATORS AGAIN ONLY WITHIN EXISTING PARKING STRUCTURES AND SO ON ON THE LOWER PART OF THE PAGE HERE YOU CAN JUST SEE THE THE THE MECHANICS OF GETTING THAT ACCOMPLISHED IN THE CITY CODE AND SO THERE WAS SOME SOME REALLY GOOD FEEDBACK AND QUESTIONS THAT WERE RAISED ON COMPLIANCE WITH OTHER SECTIONS OF CITY CODE AND AGAIN HIGHLY TECHNICAL INFORMATION. BUT WHAT WHAT THE INTENT WAS WAS TO REQUIRE CODE COMPLIANCE FOR WHAT ALL PARKING FACILITIES HAVE TO BE COMPLIANT WITH TO ALIGN THAT WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT SET ASIDE. DEADLINE AND SO THE PLANNING COMMISSION THEY HAD THEIR RECOMMENDATION WAS TO HAVE THIS COMPLIANCE DATE END OF THE YEAR AND 2034 STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION WAS INTO THE YEAR 2029. BUT REALLY WHEN YOU THINK OF A PARKING LOT AND YOU CAN LOOK OUT THE WINDOW AND GET GOOD EXAMPLES OF THIS YOU KNOW A PARKING LOT ISN'T JUST PARKING IT'S ALSO STORMWATER MANAGEMENT, IT'S ALSO LANDSCAPING AND THERE'S EXTERIOR LIGHTING SO IT'S NOT JUST THE PARKING STALLS AND IF THESE FACILITIES WERE TO BECOME PERMANENT CONDITIONALLY PERMITTED FACILITIES WE WOULD WANT TO ENSURE THAT THEY WERE COMPLIANT WITH THE CURRENT REQUIREMENTS FOR PARKING, LIGHTING LANDSCAPING STORMWATER MANAGEMENT. THAT SAID THERE ARE SIGNIFICANT AND SO WE FELT THAT THE BEST APPROACH WOULD BE TO DEFER COMPLIANCE TO ALIGN WITH OUR DEVELOPMENT SET ASIDE ARE THERE 2029 A STAFF RECOMMENDED OR 2034 AS THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED? SO FUNCTIONALLY THAT MEANS RETROFITTING LANDSCAPED PARKING ISLANDS ALONG THE PERIMETER OF THE OF THE SITE AS WELL AS ON THE INTERIOR EXTERIOR LIGHTING THIS ISN'T AS MUCH OF AN ISSUE BECAUSE THEY ARE THEY ARE LIT AND YOU KNOW THESE TYPES OF FACILITIES TEND TO EXCEED CITY CODE REQUIREMENTS AND THEN SOME LEVEL OF STORMWATER MANAGEMENT TO BE BASED ON THE DISTURBED AREAS MEANING THE DISTURBED AREAS WOULD ACCUMULATE AND THERE WOULD BE MANAGEMENT REQUIREMENTS BASED ON THAT RETROFITTING OF ISLANDS WE WOULD NOT EXPECT THEM TO MEET STORMWATER MANAGEMENT REQUIREMENTS FOR THE ENTIRE SITE GOING ON. YOU KNOW ONE OF THE MAIN ISSUES WITH THE ORDINANCE OR THE THAT'S GARNER A LOT OF QUESTIONS AND CONCERN IS THIS DEVELOPMENT SET ASIDE AND WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS A THREE ACRE AND YOU KNOW REALLY TOOK A LOOK AT OTHER DEVELOPMENTS WITHIN THE CITY OF PASSED APPLICATIONS WITH THE CURRENT OPERATORS. I FELT LIKE THE THREE ACRE SITE WAS LARGE ENOUGH TO ACCOMPLISH SIGNIFICANT DENSITY LIKE THE ZONING CODE AND THE SOUTH OF DISTRICT PLAN REQUIRES BUT THEN ALSO WOULD LEAVE THE MAJORITY OF THE SITE TO BE OPERATED AS IT IS TODAY IF OPERATORS CHOSE TO DO SO. AND SO WE ARE PROPOSING A REQUIREMENT TO HAVE SOME SORT OF SCREENING BETWEEN THE USERS BETWEEN THE PERMANENT DEVELOPMENT AND THE REMOTE AIRPORT PARKING FACILITY AND AGAIN WE'RE STAFF IS ASKING FOR COMPLIANCE BY THE END OF 2029 PLANNING COMMISSION EXTENDED THAT TO 2034 AND WE HAVE A REALLY GOOD RENDERING OF WHAT THAT COULD LOOK LIKE AT THE PARKING FLY SITE. HERE'S A GRAPHIC FROM WHEN THEY WENT THROUGH A DEVELOPMENT REVIEW PROCESS AND AND THIS WAS APPROVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL. IT'S ABOUT A THREE ACRE DEVELOPMENT AND YOU CAN SEE THE RENDERING OF THE DEVELOPMENT AND THEN THE REMOTE AIRPORT PARKING BEING MAINTAINED TO THE NORTH AND TO THE EAST. SO THIS IS ACTUALLY A REALLY GOOD REPRESENTATION OF WHAT COULD BE IMPLEMENTED SHOULD THE ORDINANCE BE ADOPTED GOING TO PARKING SITES SIMILAR WE HAVE THE THREE ACRES WE ARE PROPOSING A SCREENING BETWEEN THE REMOTE AIRPORT PARKING FACILITY AND THE DEVELOPMENT SITE AND AGAIN WE HAVE TO DEADLINES COMPLIANCE DEADLINES PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED DECEMBER 31ST OF 2034 TO SET ASIDE THIS THE SPACE DON'T HAVE SUCH A IMPRESSIVE GRAPHIC BUT WE DO HAVE A SKETCH THAT WAS PROVIDED FROM THIS PROPERTY OWNER AND IT SHOWS IN THIS CASE IT SHOWS A PARKING STRUCTURE BEING CONSTRUCTED ON THE NORTH END OF THE SITE AND THAT'S LARGELY DICTATED BY TRANSMISSION LINES. BUT THEN ON THE SOUTH END OF THE SITE ALONG AMERICAN BOULEVARD, WHICH IS WHERE WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE DEVELOPMENT, YOU HAVE A MULTI-LEVEL APARTMENT BUILDING THAT IS YOU KNOW, WITHOUT GOING THROUGH A REVIEW PROCESS BUT IS GENERALLY IN LINE WITH WHAT WE'D LIKE TO SEE IN THE AREA. SWITCHING GEARS TO NEW FACILITIES AND EXISTING STRUCTURES. AND SO THIS REALLY APPLIES TO TWO AREAS. ONE WOULD BE THE MALL OF AMERICA THEY WOULD LIKE TO ESTABLISH REMOTE AREA PARKING IN THEIR EAST RAMP AND THEN ALSO AT 36 ONE AMERICAN BOULEVARD YOU HAVE A PARKING STRUCTURE THAT'S SHARED BETWEEN A FEW SITES AND THEY FEEL THEY HAVE ACCESS PARKING CAPACITY AND SO THIS WOULD BE AN ABILITY THIS WOULD ALLOW THEM TO MONETIZE EXISTING PARKING STRUCTURES WITH REMOTE PARKING AND WE'RE GENERALLY SUPPORTIVE OF THAT. WE WOULD WANT TO ENSURE THAT THEY DO HAVE EXCESS SUPPLY SO WE'RE NOT CREATING PARKING PROBLEMS BY APPROVING CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS BUT THAT'S A PROCESS WE'RE VERY COMFORTABLE WITH AND I THINK THIS COULD BE A GOOD OPTION FOR THEM. AND NOW KIND OF THE THIRD LEG OF THE ORDINANCE IS HOTEL AIRPORT PARKING. YOU KNOW, THIS IS THIS IS SOMETHING THAT HOTELS HAVE BEEN OPERATING AIRPORT PARKING FOR FOR DECADES. IT'S SOMETHING THAT IS IN EXISTENCE AND SOMETHING THAT MEETING WITH THE TOURISM FOLKS IS NECESSARY FOR THEIR INDUSTRY AND THEN THINKING ABOUT THE ZONING ALTERNATIVES, THE FEEDBACK WE GOT AND ULTIMATELY FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION COUNCIL WAS TO ALLOW THIS AS A PERMITTED ACCESSORY USE AND SO NOT REQUIRING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT BUT JUST ACKNOWLEDGING THAT THIS IS PART OF A HOTEL OPERATION THAT'S NEAR AN AIRPORT. SO THIS SO THIS ORDINANCE WOULD ESTABLISH HOTEL PARKING AS A PERMITTED ACCESSORY USE IN ALL IN ALL OF THE ZONING DISTRICTS WHERE HOTELS ARE PERMITTED. THAT SAID, WE WANTED TO ENSURE THAT THE PARKING WAS ACCESSORY TO A HOTEL. SO WE HAVE A COUPLE A COUPLE PERFORMANCE ITEMS TO THAT EFFECT. ONE IS IT MUST INCLUDE AN OVERNIGHT STAY IF THERE ARE NO OVERNIGHT STAYS THEN THE USE IS ESSENTIALLY REMOTE AIRPORT PARKING WHICH WE DO NOT SUPPORT AT OUR HOTELS. AND THEN ALSO WE WANTED TO ESTABLISH A MAXIMUM PARKING REQUIREMENT FOR HOTELS TO HOPEFULLY ALLEVIATE THE CHANCE OF A HOTEL JUST BUYING A VACANT LOT, BUILDING A PARKING LOT AND USING IT SOLELY FOR REMOTE OR FOR PARKING. WE'D LIKE TO SEE MORE INTENSE DEVELOPMENT, MORE INVESTMENT THAN SURFACE PARKING AND SO THE ORDINANCE WOULD PROPOSE A MAXIMUM OR A CAP ON HOTEL PARKING AND SO THAT IS A VERY QUICK SUMMARY OF SOME OF THE WORK WE'VE BEEN DOING. I DO HAVE TWO MOTIONS FOR YOU TODAY. ONE IS FOR THE ORDINANCE ITSELF AND THEN A SECOND ONE FOR A SUMMARY PUBLICATION, A RESOLUTION DIRECTING SOME OF OUR PUBLICATION. HOWEVER, IF IN THE EVENT THAT THE COUNCIL IS NOT PREPARED TO TAKE ACTION THIS EVENING, STAFF WOULD RECOMMEND HOLDING OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING SHOULD ANY OF CHANGES TO THE ORDINANCE BE DIRECTED. THANK YOU MR. CENTENARIO COUNCIL QUESTIONS AND QUESTIONS. ALL RIGHT. VERY GOOD. DON'T GO FAR WITH THAT. I'M GOING TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON ITEM 4.1 AND JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ALL ARE ON THE SAME PAGE REGARDING PUBLIC HEARINGS THIS EVENING ON THIS AND OUR OTHER ITEMS AS WELL. EVERYBODY CAN EVERYBODY WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK AT THE PUBLIC HEARING AND WHAT I ASK OF YOU IS A COUPLE OF THINGS. FIRST OF ALL, AS YOU FINISH UP YOUR YOUR COMMENTS, IF YOU COULD THEN SIGN IN AND WE CAN GET YOUR NAME AND SO ON. SO WE KNOW WHO YOU ARE BUT AS YOU START YOUR COMMENTS WE DO NEED YOU TO IDENTIFY YOURSELF FOR THE RECORD. SO IDENTIFY YOURSELF FOR THE RECORD WE WILL HAVE FIVE MINUTES AND WITH OUR SHOT CLOCK ON THE WALL THAT WILL TELL YOU HOW MUCH TIME YOU HAVE. IT WILL BE FIVE MINUTES FOR EACH SPEAKER AND I'M NOT DOING THAT BECAUSE I MEAN I'M DOING THAT BECAUSE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY HAS THE EXACT SAME AMOUNT OF TIME SO WHEN WE GET TO FIVE MINUTES I WILL CUT YOU OFF AND THAT WILL BE THE END OF YOUR TIME AND ON TO THE NEXT SPEAKER. AND THEN THE FINAL THING THAT I WANT TO MENTION TONIGHT WE WON'T BE ANSWERING QUESTIONS AS THEY COME. WHAT WE'LL DO IS COLLECT QUESTIONS AND ANSWER THEM AT THE END OF THE PUBLIC HEARING OPPORTUNITY. IT JUST GIVES US A CHANCE RATHER THAN TRYING TO SHOOT FROM THE HIP THAT WE ACTUALLY CAN GET SOME GOOD INFORMATION AND BE ABLE TO ANSWER THE QUESTIONS AS THOROUGHLY AS POSSIBLE. SO THAT WILL BE THE CASE ON THIS PUBLIC HEARING AND ACTUALLY ALL THE PUBLIC HEARINGS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE HAVING THIS EVENING. SO WE WILL START ITEM 4.1. I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING NOW THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING THE AIRPORT PARKING STUDY ORDINANCE. IS THERE ANYONE IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS WISHING TO SPEAK TO DOWN IN 4.1 THIS EVENING ? GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING. WELCOME WELCOME DAN WILLIAMSON PARK AND GO. I WANT TO BEGIN BY JUST THINKING THE STAFF FOR ALL THE HARD WORK THEY'VE DONE IN THIS MORATORIUM THE MAYOR, THE PLANNERS, THE COUNCIL MEMBERS HERE AND THANK YOU FOR TAKING TIME TO VISIT WITH ME ON THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE. WE LIKE WHERE THIS IS GOING. WE THINK A LOT OF GOOD WORK HAS BEEN DONE AND WE'RE VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THE DIRECTION IT'S GOING. I'VE BROUGHT UP SOME QUESTIONS I'D LIKE YOU TO CONSIDER AS YOU COME TO THE FINAL ORDINANCE AND A COUPLE OF THEM THEY GO LIKE THIS NUMBER ONE, YOU'VE GOT THIS THREE ACRE SET ASIDE AND MILESTONE AND I KIND OF THOUGHT WE WERE KIND OF TRYING TO GET AWAY FROM THE MILESTONES BECAUSE THE MILESTONES REALLY DON'T MAKE DEVELOPMENT HAPPEN. AND I THINK ALSO SETTING ASIDE THREE ACRES THAT COULD END UP BEING A NICE FENCED AREA WITH SOME TIMOTHY ALFALFA CLOVER AND SOME BLACK ANGUS CALVES OUT THERE GRAZING IS REALLY NOT VERY PRODUCTIV BUT THE MARKET HAS TO DRIVE IT AND JUST BECAUSE WE SET IT ASIDE DOESN'T MEAN IT'S GOING TO GET DEVELOPED IN TWO YEARS, TEN YEARS, FIVE YEARS. WE REALLY NEED TO LET THE MARKET SEARCH OUT WHAT'S A GOOD THING TO DO THERE? WE HAVE DONE A NUMBER OF PROJECTS BOTH PURELY MEETING THE CURRENT ZONING AND WE HAVE FOUND THAT THOSE DO NOT PENCIL OUT THEY JUST SIMPLY ARE NOT PROFITABLE. WE HAD ONE PROJECT IT WAS $33 MILLION RESIDENTIAL UNITS $11 MILLION OF EQUITY WOULD HAVE COME OUT OF OUR POCKET AND 22 MILLION IN A FINANCIAL LOAN. WELL WHEN THERE'S NO RETURN ON THAT, WHY WOULD YOU TAKE THAT RISK? AND WE COULD TAKE THAT SAME MONEY, INVEST IN A NUMBER OF PARKING LOTS AROUND THE UNITED STATES. SO AGAIN, IT JUST DIDN'T WORK . SO WE LOOKED AT DEVELOPING THE PROPERTY WHERE WE BUILT THE REMOTER PER PARKING INTO THE DEVELOPMENT. THAT'S THE SKETCH YOU SAW ON THE BOARD THERE THAT BASICALLY REPLACED OUR PARKING, PUT IT INSIDE THERE AND ALL OF A SUDDEN WE HAD A PROJECT THAT PENCIL THE LITTLE BIT NOT A LOT BUT A LITTLE BIT AND I CAME TO MIKE AND THE STAFF SAID HOW DO WE PRESENT A NONCONFORMING PROJECT TO THE COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL? THERE REALLY ISN'T A GOOD TOOL FOR THAT. WE AGREED THAT WE WERE JUST GOING TO PRESENT IT. THAT'S WHAT WE WERE GOING TO DO JUST PRESENT IT, LET YOU HEAR IT. YOU CAN SAY YAY OR NAY WHATEVER. THEN INTEREST RATES WENT UP. JOHN OUR OWNER CALLED ME SAYING YOU BETTER HOLD. I CHECKED RENTAL RATES THEY WERE FLAT DECLINING A LITTLE BIT. WE HAD JUST PUT IT ON THE BACKBURNER. THAT'S WHAT KIND OF KILLED IT. BUT THERE WAS TRACTION THERE. SO ONE OF THE THINGS I'M ALSO SUGGESTING YOU CONSIDER THIS A THIS MILESTONE ISSUE IF THAT'S STILL REALLY A GOOD IDEA AND THE SET ASIDE WE REALLY DON'T LIKE TO SEE LAND PUT OUT OF PRODUCTIVITY BUT ALSO THE REMOTE AIRPORT PARKING IS THE FINANCIAL ENGINE TO MAKE A DEVELOPMENT GO AND THE DRAWING THAT YOU SAW FROM PARKING GO WHICH WAS MY DRAWING HAD THE PARKING BUILT INSIDE WHERE NO ONE SEES IT. IT'S ALL BURIED INSIDE THERE. YOU GOT TO BUILD PARKING ANYWAY TO SUPPORT THE HIGH DENSITY DEVELOPMENT. SO WE'RE ALSO SUGGESTING THAT MAYBE YOU LOOK AT HAVING THAT THREE ACRES OR SIX ACRES OR 5 OR 2 OR WHATEVER'S LOGICAL TO PRESERVE YOUR FINANCIAL AND POLITICAL CAPITAL ON THAT CORNER WITH THE LIGHT RAIL I CAN ONLY SPEAK TO OUR SITE MAYBE ROOM WATER PER PARKING SHOULD BE A PART OF THAT H.R. PROCESS BUT IT HAS TO BE THE WHOLE DEVELOPMENT. IT CAN'T JUST BE A PARKING RAMP SITTING ON THE CORNER. IT'S A PARKING RAMP BUILT INSIDE OF RESIDENTIAL A MEDICAL CLINIC, CONDOMINIUMS, WHATEVER THE MARKET'S GOING TO DRIVE. SO THOSE ARE JUST A COUPLE OF MY CONSIDERATIONS THAT I'D LIKE YOU TO PUT OUT THERE. THE SECOND THING IS I DON'T THINK ONE OF THINGS THAT COULD HAPPEN IS IF THE THREE ACRES GOT SET ASIDE AND WE GOT A DEVELOPMENT THAT CAME IN BUT WE WANTED TO PUT THE REMAINDER PER PARKING IN BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT MAKE IT WORK. IT COULD END UP ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY AND LEAVE THE PREMIUM PROPERTY JUST SITTING THERE WHICH KIND OF DEFEATS THE WHOLE WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE HAPPEN HERE. SO THOSE ARE JUST A FEW THOUGHTS I'M OPEN TO ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE AFTER YOU'VE HAD YOUR CHANCE TO TALK ABOUT THINGS. THANK YOU. FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT WERE ABLE TO MEET WITH ME, I SURE APPRECIATED THAT AND LOOK AT THAT. I LEFT ONE MINUTE AND 19 SECONDS. I STILL PLAY HOCKEY. THANK YOU MR. WILLIAMSON. OTHERS GOOD EVENING. WELCOME. HI. GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU. THIS IS KRISTEN MUIR REPRESENTING RESEARCH DEVELOPMENT. THANK YOU TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND FOR TAKING THE TIME TO STUDY THIS ITEM AND FOR MEETING WITH US TO FIND A PERMANENT RESOLUTION. EXCUSE ME, CAN I HAVE YOU MOVE? YOU KNOW. THERE YOU GO. THERE YOU GO. THANK YOU. I'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN THE STUDY AND THIS MORATORIUM FOR OVER THE PAST YEAR AND SOME OF THE BIG TAKEAWAYS I'VE LEARNED ARE THERE IS THERE IS A NEED THERE'S CONTINUED STEADY GROWTH PROJECTED AT MSP THROUGH 2040. ALSO ACCORDING TO MAX STUDY THERE IS A PARKING DEFICIT AND OVER THE NEXT FEW YEARS RANGING FROM WHEN THEY'RE UNDER CONSTRUCTION THE RANGE IS ABOUT 2800 APPROXIMATELY AROUND TO 12,800. BLOOMINGTON IS THE ONLY CITY THAT TREATS THIS USE AS INTERIM OR WANTS TO IMPOSE UNWORKABLE CONDITIONS ON ESTABLISHED BUSINESSES AFTER 37 YEARS WE ARE NOT THE CAUSE OF THE SOCIAL PROBLEMS IN BLOOMINGTON. WE PAY SALARIES TO 52 EMPLOYEES HEALTH INSURANCE WE PAY OUR TAXES OR VANS ARE SERVICE AND MAINTAINED WHILE WE SUPPORT THE AIRPORT AND MAC AND WE HAVE FOR ALMOST FOUR DECADES WE GIVE AN AFFORDABLE RKING OPTION TO TRAVELERS. WE ALSO COMPETE AGAINST MAC. LET THAT REALLY SINK AND DO YOU KNOW THE RESOURCES AND THE FUNDING THAT MAC HAS OUT THERE FOR PARKING IS AN ECONOMY OF SCALES BUSINESS AND WE ARE COMPETING AGAINST A GIANT OF IMMENSE PROPORTIONS AND WHILE ALLOWING NEW COMPETITORS TO ENTER THE MARKET WITHOUT ANY CONDITIONS YOU WANT TO SHRINK OUR BUSINESS. I REALLY DON'T THINK THAT'S FAIR. THERE IS A REASON THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION DENIED THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION AS IT WAS DRAFTED BECAUSE IT'S OVERREACHING AND IT STEPS ACROSS THE LINE FROM INCENTIVES TO MANDATES. THE GOAL FOR THIS MORATORIUM HAS ALWAYS BEEN A PERMANENT SOLUTION NOT ANOTHER DELAY FOR NINE YEARS. >> OH, YOU CAN'T REALLY USE THIS LAND ANYMORE AS PART OF YOUR BUSINESS. LET'S JUST SET IT ASIDE. WELL, THAT'S NOT REALLY A WORKABLE SOLUTION. MORE FLEXIBILITY ON USES AND ZONING WOULD BE AN EXAMPLE OF AN INCENTIVE TAX INCREMENT FINANCING AND DEVELOPMENT GRANTS WOULD ALSO BE INCENTIVES A BANK FINANCING A DEVELOPMENT OR A BUYER LOOKING FOR PROPERTIES INVESTMENT WOULD NOT CONSIDER THE THREE ACRE SET ASIDE AND INCENTIVE AND NEITHER DO I. IT IS A LIEN ON OUR PROPERTY A BLACK MARK ON OUR TITLE. IT AFFECTS THE VALUE NEGATIVELY AND IT'S COMPLETELY UNNECESSARY. YOU SIMPLY CAN'T TAKE PROPERTY OR THE RIGHT TO USE THAT PROPERTY AS IT'S BEEN USED WITHOUT COMPENSATION. I HAVE REALLY DONE EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN ASKED OF ME. I'VE MAINTAINED COMPLIANCE THROUGHOUT THESE YEARS. I REALLY TRIED HARD TO PUT TOGETHER A HIGH DENSITY DEVELOPMENT AS THE CITY WANTED AS YOU JUST SAW AND THAT BEAUTIFUL GRAPHIC. IF IT WAS A GREAT DEAL I WOULD HAVE DONE IT AT THAT TIME I WAS READY TO PULL A BUILDING PERMIT. I'VE BEEN PROACTIVE DURING THIS MORATORIUM HELPING WITH DATA FOR THE STUDY. BUT THIS PROPOSAL JUST SIMPLY DOESN'T WORK. THE STAFF IS SUGGESTING WE PUT IN LANDSCAPING ISLANDS IN NINE YEARS. REALLY THERE'S LITTLE BENEFIT IF IT'S ANOTHER MANDATE PEOPLE DON'T GO TO THE AIRPORT FOR LANDSCAPING ISLANDS. THEY COME TO US, THEY'RE IN A HURRY. THEY WANT TO PARK, THEY WANT TO GET INTO A VAN AND THEY WANT TO GET TO THE AIRPORT AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. THEY MAY HAVE LUGGAGE, THEY MAY HAVE KIDS AND THEY AREN'T REALLY THERE TO APPRECIATE THE SCENERY. WE DON'T NEED EXTRA CURBS FOR THE VANS OR PEOPLE TO HIT. WE DON'T NEED LEAKS FROM SPRINKLERS THAT MAY CAUSE ICE OR SLIP LEAVES OR BIRDS MAKING IMPACT ON PEOPLE'S CARS. IF PEOPLE WANT THAT THE WILDLIFE REFUGE IS RIGHT THERE FOR THEM TO GO TAKE A WALK IT'S JUST A COMPLETE WASTE OF TIME AND MONEY. I ACTUALLY TOOK A DRIVE BY THE PROPERTY YESTERDAY AND WITH THE HEDGES FILLED IN AND THE MATURE TREES THAT ARE THERE YOU CAN HONESTLY BARELY SEE EVEN THAT THERE AREN'T ANY PARKING CARS. YOU MOSTLY JUST SEE GREENERY. I'D BE HAPPY TO PLANT SOME MORE FLOWERS OR SOMETHING ALONG THE FRONT MAKE IT LOOK NICE VOLUNTARILY BUT NOTHING THAT REALLY TAKES AWAY SPACES OR GETS IN THE WAY AND HAZARDS OUR OPERATION. I ATTENDED THE ROBERT MUIR KELLY DORN DEVELOPMENT SCHOOL. GREAT VISIONARIES, BIG THINKERS, NICE OF ACHIEVERS THEY WOULD BUILD YOU THE EMERALD CITY IF THEY SAW VALUE AND BENEFIT IN A DEAL. BUT ON THE FLIP SIDE IF YOU CAME AGGRESSIVELY TRYING TO DEVALUE THEIR PROPERTY THEY WOULD NOT STAND BY AND WATCH IT HAPPEN. I HAVE TRIED FOR A LONG TIME TO TAKE THE HIGH ROAD BUT I AM RESPONSIBLE FOR THE INTERESTS OF A LOT OF PEOPLE EMPLOYEES, FAMILY PARTNERS AND I NEED TO TAKE CARE OF THEM. THIS STUDY HAS SHOWN THAT THIS IS A VALID BUSINESS OPERATION . AN MSP NEEDS PARKING TO CONTINUE ITS GROWTH. WE HAVE A PERMANENT ESTABLISHED RIGHT STARTING IN 1988 AND WE'RE OPERATING A GOOD BUSINESS SUPPORTING TRAVELERS AS WE ALWAYS HAVE DONE THIS YEAR. I'M SORRY. YOUR ADVICE. OH SORRY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY, LET ME SIGN IN AND THEN IS THIS PERFECT? NO ONE WOULD IMAGINE THAT BUILDING. YEAH. LEAVING MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBERS BILL GRIFFITH, THANK YOU FOR ALL OF THE TIME THAT YOU HAVE PUT INTO THIS AND YOUR STAFF THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE HAS ALWAYS BEEN AVAILABLE TO US AS HAS THE PLANNING OFFICE. SO WITH ALL OF THAT LISTENING THAT'S GONE ON AND ALL THE WORK AND ALL THE STUDY, WE'RE REALLY HERE TONIGHT TO TALK ABOUT A SOLUTION AND YOU HEARD MY CLIENT'S CONCERNS AND BOTH OF US HAVE BEEN TALKING FOR 12 MONTHS, 14 MONTHS, WHATEVER IT'S BEEN ABOUT SOLUTIONS AND HOW CAN WE GET THERE AND I'M GLAD MR. CENTENARIO PUT THIS IMAGE UP HERE BECAUSE IN A WAY THAT'S WHAT EVERYBODY WANTS, RIGHT? THEY WANT HIGHER DENSITY. THEY'D LIKE HOUSING IS A DIFFICULT HOUSING SITE CLOSE TO THE AIRPORT CLOSE TO THE FREEWAY. BUT IT COULD HAPPEN. IT COULD HAPPEN BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN UNDER A MANDATE. I CAN TELL YOU THAT RIGHT NOW. AND YOU KNOW ALL THE REASONS YOU'VE SAT WITH US, YOU KNOW OUR POSITIONS I REALLY WANT TO FOCUS ON THE SOLUTION TONIGHT BECAUSE I THINK IT CAN HAPPEN. IT CAN HAPPEN WHEN THE MARKET IS READY, WHEN INTEREST RATES ARE THERE, WHEN INVESTORS ARE THERE. THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN ON A TIME CLOCK. A WINDOW OPENS. IT CLOSES. WE'VE SEEN THIS IN YOUR COMMUNITY SO MANY TIMES PROJECTS THAT I'VE WORKED ON THAT YOU'VE WORKED ON THAT HAVEN'T YET COME TO FRUITION BECAUSE IT ISN'T QUITE THE RIGHT TIME AND PUTTING A SHOT CLOCK ON A DEVELOPMENT JUST DOESN'T WORK. WE KNOW THAT AND SO THE SET ASIDE IS THAT IT'S A SHOT CLOCK YOU'RE GOING TO DO THIS BUT IN FOUR YEARS YOU'RE GOING TO DO THIS NINE YEARS OTHERWISE YOU'RE GOING TO AS AS THE LAST SPEAKER SAID YOU'RE GOING TO PUT IT OUT TO PASTURE LITERALLY AND IT'S GOING TO SIT THERE AND WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IT'S IT'S NOT GOING TO WE'RE NOT GOING TO FORCE DEVELOPMENT. I THINK WE'VE WE'VE COME TO THAT CONCLUSION AFTER 37 YEARS. BUT HOW CAN THIS HAPPEN? THIS COULD HAPPEN BECAUSE YOUR ORDINANCE ALLOWS THE DEVELOPERS, THE OPERATORS TO ACTUALLY BUILD STRUCTURED PARKING. WE COULD BUILD STRUCTURE PARKING ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE THREE ACRES OR TWO ACRES OR FOUR ACRES WHATEVER MAKES SENSE AND THAT COULD HELP FUEL THE DEVELOPMENT. YOU CAN PUT THE SPACES IN THERE AND YOU'D HAVE YOU'D YOU'D HAVE ESSENTIALLY WHAT YOU WANT IS SET ASIDE BUT NOT WITH A MANDATE, NOT WITH A SHOT CLOCK. WHY? BECAUSE WE BELIEVE WE HAVE EXISTING RIGHTS AND SO WE'RE ALWAYS GOING TO MEASURE THOSE MANDATES AGAINST PROTECTING THOSE EXISTING RIGHTS. SO LET'S TAKE THIS COUNCIL THAT WE'VE HAD FOR SO LONG AWAY AND WORK TOGETHER SOME FLEXIBILITY IN THE OUR ORDINANCE WOULD BE HELPFUL. WE'LL SIT DOWN AND TALK TO YOU ABOUT THAT. WORKING TOGETHER WE COULD COME UP WITH SOMETHING VERY UNIQUE ON THIS SITE AND ON OTHERS. BUT I'M HERE TO TELL YOU THAT WE KNOW THE APPROACH THAT WON'T WORK IS THE TIME CLOCK. I WANT TO ALSO ADDRESS THE LANDSCAPE ISLANDS. IT SEEMS LIKE A SMALL CONCESSION, A WIN IF YOU WILL. IT ISN'T REALLY A WIN BECAUSE ONCE AGAIN IT'S MANDATES IN THE NEW DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS ON A DEVELOPMENT THAT'S 37 YEARS OLD WE'RE REALLY TALKING ABOUT THOSE NEW STANDARDS SHOULD APPLY WHEN NEW DEVELOPMENT COMES BECAUSE ONCE AGAIN WE'RE GOING TO MEASURE THE COST OF PUTTING IN THOSE ISLANDS AND DISRUPTING THE OPERATIONS AGAINST JUST SIMPLY PROTECTING THE RIGHTS AS WE BELIEVE THEY EXIST TODAY. SO THAT'S MORE CONFLICT. WE WANT TO CUT THE CORD, LET THE CONFLICT GO DOWN THE RIVER AND START WORKING OUT PROPOSALS THAT MAKE SENSE FOR THIS COMMUNITY AND FOR THIS PROPERTY AND FOR THE MUIR FAMILY. THE MUIR FAMILY DEVELOPED MOST OF THIS QUADRANT WITH HOTELS. THEY EVEN I WAS REMINDED BY MRS. MUIR ROBIN MUIR THAT THERE WAS A PROPOSAL FOR THE WORLD TRADE CENTER WAS HERE ON THIS SITE. IT WENT OVER TO ST PAUL. I OFTEN SAY IF YOU WANT SOMETHING TO DEVELOP AND BEEN HERE MINNEAPOLIS OR ST PAUL FIRST PROPOSED IT IN BLOOMINGTON BECAUSE YOU'LL GET PEOPLE'S ATTENTION AND THERE'LL BE COMPETITION BUT IN ANY EVENT THIS IS THIS FAMILY IS ABOUT DEVELOPMENT AND SO WHEN THE DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITY COMES WITH THIS UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY TO BUILD STRUCTURED PARKING AND PERHAPS HAVE A DEVELOPMENT SITE ALONG AMERICAN BOULEVARD IT WILL HAPPEN. WHY? BECAUSE IT MAKES SENSE FINANCIALLY IT MAKES SENSE FOR THE PROPERTY. THAT'S WHEN IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN FOLKS. IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN ON A SHOT CLOCK. THE LAST THING I WOULD SAY IS YOU'VE YOU'VE SOLVED THIS ONCE BEFORE AND YOU HEARD THIS FROM ME IN OUR MEETINGS PANAMERA AND YOU WANT TO PAN-AMERICAN TO GROW AND TO BE MORE DENSE AND YET THE AUTO DEALERS WERE THERE WITH YOU KNOW SURFACE PARKING AND WHAT DID YOU DO? YOU TOOK THE CLOUT OFF THOSE AUTO DEALERS BY CALLING THEIR YEARS PERMITTED AS A MATTER OF RIGHT, WE'RE NOT GOING TO APPLY ANY NEW RULES TO YOUR PERMITTED USE AS A MATTER OF RIGHT. BUT WHEN YOU WANT TO COME IN AND DEVELOP SOMETHING HIGHER AND BETTER AND LO AND BEHOLD THEY HAVE YOU'RE GOING TO GO UP IT'S GOING TO BE MORE DENSE. THERE'S GOING TO BE MORE AMENITIES, MORE PUBLIC BENEFIT AND THAT WORKED. I DON'T WANT A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR MY CLIENT. I BELIEVE THEY ALREADY HAVE ONE. WHAT'S THE BENEFIT OF SAYING COME IN AND GET A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT BUT YOU DON'T BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO ACCEPT THE CONDITIONS THAT YOU WANT TO IMPOSE ON US. SO LET'S JUST SOLVE THAT QUESTION, CALL IT A PERMITTED USE AND THEN START TALKING ABOUT WHAT'S ON THE SCREEN. THAT'S A REAL OPPORTUNITY. IT WOULDN'T BE SURFACE PARKING NECESSARILY THAT THAT WRAPS AROUND THAT SITE. IT'S PROBABLY STRUCTURED PARKING. THAT'S WHAT MAKES SENSE WHEN IT DOES MAKE SENSE FINANCIALLY. BUT AGAIN IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN IF WE'RE LIKE THIS AT ODDS TALKING ABOUT WHAT OUR RIGHTS ARE INSTEAD OF WHAT OUR OPPORTUNITIES ARE. SO I REALLY, REALLY TRULY MEAN SINCERELY THANK YOU FOR ALL THE TIME YOU'VE SPENT ON THIS. IT'S BEEN REMARKABLE TO SEE ALL THE TIME THAT STAFF HAS SPENT ON IT. IT REALLY DESERVES A SOLUTION AFTER THAT MUCH INVESTMENT OF TIME. MR. GRIFFITH THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. OTHERS HIGH COUNC JOHN SCHUMACHER I HAVE REALLY NO FAMILIARITY WITH ANY OF THIS SO I'M REALLY TALKING OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD BUT I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE POINT OF REGULATING THE PARKING STRUCTURES. BUT JUST TO AGAIN I KNOW THERE'S SUPPOSEDLY NO DUMB QUESTIONS BUT THIS IS PROBABLY A DUMB QUESTION WHY ARE WE NOT TALKING ABOUT THE BIG PIECE OF TAR NEXT TO THE MALL OF AMERICA THAT'S BEEN EMPTY FOR HOWEVER LONG SINCE WE KNOCKED DOWN THE MED CENTER? SO WE'RE WORRIED ABOUT WHAT THE STRUCTURE PARKING LOOKS LIKE. WE WANT THREE ACRES TO SET ASIDE FOR GREEN SPACE OR WHATEVER WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE IT AND TURN IN SOME HIGH DENSITY DEVELOPMENT. THAT'S A DIFFERENT ARGUMENT BUT DOES IT NOT APPLY TO THE BIG PIECE OF TAR NEXT THE MALL OF AMERICA THAT WE'VE DONE NOTHING WITH FOR YEARS AND WHY ARE THEY NOT PART OF THIS STRUCTURE? WHY ARE THEY NOT INCLUDED IN THIS REGULATION THAT SAYS WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SOMETHING BETTER OUT OF YOUR SITE BUT NOT SOMETHING BETTER OUT OF THE AMAZING SITE OR WHOEVER OWNS IT NOW I KNOW WHO OWNS IT BUT WHY IS THAT NOT PART OF THIS DISCUSSION TOO IF THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING AND EXCUSE ME I DON'T YOU KNOW I STILL HAVE YET TO SEE IF THERE'S SOME GREAT GRANDIOSE PLAN THAT COMES DOWN FROM THE THUNDERBIRD SITE ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE FARM DOWN THERE. BUT IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE PIGEONHOLING THESE PEOPLE WHEN WE'RE NOT PIGEONHOLING OTHER PEOPLE THAT WE PROBABLY SHOULD BE OR SHOULD BE AND QUITE SHOULD BE REQUIRING THEM TO BE PART OF IT. THANK YOU. OTHERS DO WE HAVE ANYONE ON THE PHONE WISHING TO SPEAK? MAYOR WE DO NOT HAVE ANYONE ON LINE. LAST CALL FOR ANYBODY IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON IT AND 4.1 ALL RIGHT. COUNCIL STAFF WRITER FOR MR. CENTENARIO MENTIONED IT. WE CAN HAVE A DISCUSSION HERE BUT WHAT I THINK I WHAT I THINK WOULD BE THE BEST COURSE OF ACTION NO WELL I THINK WOULD BE THE BEST COURSE OF ACTION IS TO TO LAY THIS ASIDE ALLOW SOME QUESTIONS TO BE ANSWERED BECAUSE I KNOW COUNCIL HAS A LOT OF QUESTIONS AND A LOT OF MORE STAFF INFORMATION TO GATHER ON THIS THAT WOULD LEAVE THE PUBLIC PUBLIC HEARING OPEN IF WE COULD LEAVE THIS OPEN UNTIL SEPTEMBER 15TH OR SO, COME BACK AND FINALIZE OUR DISCUSSION AFTER SOME QUESTIONS ARE ANSWERED ABOUT THE SPECIFICS AND THE AND THE TECHNICAL PIECE OF THIS AND THEN BE ABLE TO MAKE A DECISION THAT I THINK THAT MIGHT BE THE PATH FORWARD BECAUSE I KNOW THIS IS A COMPLEX ISSUE. I KNOW THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IT A WHILE BUT WE ALSO HAVE TIME ON THIS. THE THE THE MORATORIUM DOES NOT EXPIRE UNTIL OCTOBER. SO I THINK THAT MIGHT BE THE PATH FORWARD ON THIS ONE SUMMER IF YOU'RE MAKING THAT MOTION I'LL SECOND IT. I WILL I WILL MAKE THE MOTION. I WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE. COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO, THANKS, MR. MAYOR. THE THE PURPOSE OF CONTINUING THE PUBLIC HEARING IS SO THAT THERE COULD BE ADDITIONAL PUBLIC COMMENT ONCE MORE INFORMATION IS PUT OUT TO THE PUBLIC. >> IS THAT THE REASON? OKAY. THANKS. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF CLARIFICATION? SO COUNSEL, I WOULD MAKE A MOTION THAT WE LAY ITEM 4.1 ASIDE UNTIL SEPTEMBER 15TH MEETING AND LEAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN ALLOWING TIME FOR COUNCIL DUE TO GAIN MORE INFORMATION FROM STAFF AND CONTINUE THIS DISCUSSION THEN SECOND 15TH MELISSA. ALL RIGHT. SEPTEMBER 15TH COUNCILMEMBER MOMENT DID YOU SECOND THAT ONE FOR ME? WE HAVE A WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN TO LEAD THIS OVER UNTIL SEPTEMBER 15TH. NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO. WELL, THANK YOU AND THANKS FOR THE INPUT FROM FROM EVERYONE AND I THINK WE'RE GETTING THERE. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET TO THE RIGHT ANSWER AND DO THIS IN THE BEST WAY POSSIBLE. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE ON THIS AND THANK YOU STAFF FOR YOUR WORK IN PULLING ALL OF THIS TOGETHER. I WILL CALL NOW ITEM 4.2 ON OUR AGENDA. THIS ALSO IS A PUBLIC HEARING . THIS IS REGARDING A COMP PLAN AMENDMENT FOR ST MARK'S SAID 8630 XERXES AVENUE SOUTH. LIZ O'DAY IS HERE WITH US. GOOD EVENING MR. DE HELLO. GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND COUNCIL . NEXT ON YOUR AGENDA IS A COMP PLAN AMENDMENT AND THIS IS FOR ST MARK'S CHURCH SO ST MARK'S CHURCH IS LOCATED AT 8630 XERXES AVENUE SOUTH. THE EXISTING ZONING IS R-1 SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL SURROUNDING LAND USES IS ALSO SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL ZONED R ONE THE PROPERTY HAS A LAND USE DESIGNATION OF QUASI PUBLIC AND EXISTING USE AS A PLACE OF ASSEMBLY. SO WHAT ARE ST MARK'S WOULD LIKE TO DO IS TO RE GUIDE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FROM QUASI PUBLIC TO LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AND SO THE LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL DESIGNATION IS CONSISTENT WITH THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD AND BASICALLY THIS REQUEST IS THE SAME MARK'S WOULD SELL THE LAND TO OUR BLOOMINGTON HOUSING AND REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY AND BASICALLY IT'S REQUIRED TO FACILITATE REDEVELOPMENT AND SUBDIVISION INTO 13 SINGLE FAMILY LOTS AND THEN TWO FAMILY THREE TWO FAMILY DWELLINGS AND SO THE LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL DESIGNATION ALLOWS FOR SINGLE FAMILY AND TWO FAMILY HOMES UP TO 12 UNITS AN ACRE. SO PLAN AMENDMENTS DON'T HAVE SPECIFIC FINDINGS IN CODE BUT IT DOES HAVE KIND OF CONSISTENCY GUIDELINES WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLANS PLAN AND THEN THERE IS ADEQUATE PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE AND CAPACITY AND NEARBY SCHOOLS AND PARKS. AND THEN LASTLY A TYPE THREE PRELIMINARY AND FINAL PLAT APPLICATION WOULD FOLLOW AND THAT WOULD BE A PUBLIC HEARING BY PLANNING COMMISSION SHOULD THIS COMP PLAN AMENDMENT BE APPROVED. SO PRETTY SHORT PRESENTATION FOR YOU. PLANNING COMMISSION AND STAFF ARE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL AND I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU MR. DING. COUNCIL QUESTIONS ON THIS. COUNCILMEMBER CARTER THANK YOU MAYOR. HAS THERE BEEN ANY COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT DONE? THANK YOU. I'M MAYOR COUNCILMEMBER CARTER . I WILL DEFER TO MR. CLAREMONT ALTHOUGH THE DID HOLD A NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING A COUPLE A MONTH OR SO AGO AT THE CHURCH AND I THINK THERE WAS A PEOPLE FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WERE IN ATTENDANCE TO THAT MEETING. IF YOU HAVE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS I WOULD DEFER TO PULL YOUR MIND TOO. SO I GUESS I ASKED A QUESTION I KNEW THE ANSWER TO BECAUSE I HAVEN'T BUT I WAS HOPING MAYBE TO HEAR A LITTLE BIT OF THE FEEDBACK THAT YOU HEARD DURING THAT SESSION WITH REZA. I MEAN I LIVE IN THAT AREA. IT'S PRETTY MUCH MY NEIGHBORHOOD SO AND I'VE HEARD FROM SPECIFIC PEOPLE IN THE AREA THAT THEY'RE IN FAVOR OF THE LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AND THE PLAN THAT'S IN FRONT OF EVERYONE. BUT AGAIN, JUST WANTED TO HEAR IF THERE WAS ANYTHING DIFFERENT, SAID CHAIR. MR. MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBER KYRA, I'LL SPEAK RIGHT NOW. WELL MAYBE I'LL JUST USES OPPORTUNITY TO TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE BROADLY ABOUT THE PROJECT IN GENERAL. SO THE HRA IS ENGAGED WITH ST MARK'S TO PURCHASE THE PROPERTY WE HAVE CHOSEN THIS SITE BECAUSE WE HAVE A GRANT FROM MINNESOTA HOUSING THE STATE AGENCY TO DEVELOP 27 SINGLE FAMILY TWO FAMILY OWNER OCCUPIED HOUSING IN THE CITY. WE HAVE SOME SITES THAT WE'RE WORKING ON IN DIFFERENT PHASES PARTNER WITH HABITAT FOR HUMANITY ON ONE PHASE WE HAVE OTHER SITES THAT WE WERE PLANNING AN RFP OUT BUT THAT ONLY GOT US ABOUT HALFWAY THERE. WE STILL NEED ABOUT 17 MORE UNITS TO DEVELOP AND THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO IT ALL IN ONE SWATH BECAUSE THERE'S ECONOMIES OF SCALE THAT COMES WITH THAT. FURTHERMORE, YOU KNOW THE CHURCH IS CLOSING. THEY WERE LOOKING TO SELL. THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY THERE WASN'T ANOTHER INSTITUTION NECESSARILY READY TO TAKE IN TAKE OWNERSHIP OF THE PROPERTY THAT WOULD FIT THEIR NEEDS. SO THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO KIND OF REDEVELOP INTO SOMETHING THAT'S SIMILAR TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND MAKE SURE THAT IT DOESN'T JUST BECOME A VACANT LOT THAT YOU KNOW, WE'RE DEALING WITH AGAIN IN A COUPLE OF YEARS BECAUSE WE DIDN'T TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY NOW. SO SEEING THAT OPPORTUNITY, THIS ABILITY WITH OUR GRANT FUNDING AND OTHER SOURCES THAT WE'RE WORKING TOGETHER WE LIKE SO THEY PRESENTED ARE LOOKING TO DO 16 OWNER OCCUPIED UNITS. THEY ARE CONSIDERED AFFORDABLE TO HOUSEHOLDS MAKING ABOUT 105,000 PER YEAR WHICH IS PRETTY CONSISTENT ACTUALLY WITH THAT CENSUS TRACT AND FORGETTING THE EXACT MEDIAN INCOME BUT IT WAS ABOUT 110 OR SOMEWHERE RIGHT AROUND THERE. SO THESE UNITS WILL BE IN SIMILAR SIZE, SIMILAR CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND BOTH HOPEFULLY AND THEY'LL BE VALUED VERY SIMILARLY BECAUSE THEY ARE SIMILAR UNITS. SO THAT'S THE OVERALL GOAL. BUT KNOWING THAT THIS IS A CHANGE TO THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, THIS CHURCH HAS BEEN AN INSTITUTION THERE SINCE THE 50S SO IT ACTUALLY DEVELOPED THERE BEFORE ANY OF THE HOUSING. SO WE DID DO A COMMUNITY MEETING TO KIND OF LET THE COMMUNITY UNDERSTAND WHAT WILL BE HAPPENING AND WHEN IT WILL BE HAPPENING. SOME OF THE FEEDBACK WE GOT AND THERE WAS CONCERNS ABOUT THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMPONENT AND YOU KNOW THIS IS THE PURVIEW OF THE HRA THAT WE WANT TO ENCOURAGE AFFORDABLE OWNERSHIP OPPORTUNITIES IS SOMETHING WE'VE BEEN WORKING TOWARDS SO THERE IS SOME INCOME RESTRICTION BUT AT THE SAME TIME WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT DEEP AFFORDABILITY OWNERSHIPS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT SCENARIO THAT WE ARE ADDRESSING THERE. FOR THE MOST PART THOUGH THEY SOME OF THE CONCERNS WERE ALSO ABOUT CONSTRUCTION, HOW WE'LL BE MANAGING THAT TRAFFIC THAT WILL BE GENERATED. THERE WILL BE SOME TRAFFIC GENERATED BUT FROM 16 HOMES IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD IT'S NOT GOING TO OF HOMES OR EXCUSE AVENUE WHICH THIS CHURCH CURRENTLY OCCUPIES. I SUSPECT THEY GET MORE TRAFFIC AND ON SUNDAY, YOU KNOW, AT ITS HEIGHT THAN WOULD YOU TYPICALLY WOULD WITH A CUL DE SAC THAT WE ARE PROPOSING. THIS IS KIND OF THE FIRST PHASE OF THESE MULTIPLE STEPS IN THE PROCESS. THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OBVIOUSLY IS FOCUSING ON IS LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL APPROPRIATE IN THIS LOW DENSITY NEIGHBORHOOD. BUT AFTER WE IF WE GET APPROVAL FOR THAT THE NEXT STEP WOULD BE TO THEN RE PLAT INTO THESE LOTS AND SO THAT'S ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY VERY CLOSE TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION. THE INTENT IS FOR THIS ALL TO BE CODE COMPLIANT AND FOLLOWING OUR STANDARDS NO SPECIAL EXCEPTIONS THAT ARE GOING TO BE HAPPENING SO HOPEFULLY BE RELATIVELY SMOOTH PROCESS BUT WE INTEND TO NAME THE PLAT AFTER ST MARK'S AND THEY'VE OFFERED UP A DISCOUNT IN THAT PURCHASE PRICE IF WE NAMED THE ROAD AFTER ST MARK'S KIND OF A LEGACY GIFT TO INDICATE WHAT USED TO BE THERE. SO I'LL LET YOU KNOW BECAUSE EVENTUALLY THOSE ROAD NAMING DOES COME TO CITY COUNCIL BUT THAT MIGHT BE AN ASK THAT WE HAVE IN THE FUTURE HERE BUT AFTER WE DO THAT NEXT YEAR WE'RE LOOKING AT CONSTRUCTING A ROAD. WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH OUR ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT AND DESIGN OF THAT AND THEY'LL ACTUALLY BE SOME IMPROVEMENTS AS REGARDS TO DOING THAT ROAD. WE'RE ADDING STORMWATER INFRASTRUCTURE. WE ARE EXPLORING SOME POTENTIAL LOOPING WITH THE WATER SYSTEM. WE'RE STILL WORKING THAT OUT BUT WE KNOW THERE ARE CONCERNS WITH SOME OF THE WATER PRESSURE IN THE AREA SO WE'RE HOPING TO MAYBE ADDRESS THAT. NO PROMISES. IT'S A DIFFICULT SITUATION BUT WE THAT WAS ONE OF THE FEEDBACK TO THAT WE HEARD IS WATER PRESSURE IN THE AREA. SO THERE MIGHT BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO HELP ADDRESS THAT. BUT MOSTLY I THINK IT WAS JUST THIS IS NEW WHAT TO EXPECT ARE THESE HOUSES GOING TO BE RIGHT UP AGAINST ME? NO, THEY'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO BE FAIRLY SIMILAR TO WHAT'S ALREADY THERE. SO SORRY. LONG WINDED. VERY KIND OF GIVE YOU THE WHOLE COMPREHENSIVE INSIGHT HERE. THAT'S HELPFUL. THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER THEMA CAN YOU SHARE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE THE MISSION BEHIND ST MARK'S AND WHY THEY'RE WORKING SPECIFICALLY THE CITY BECAUSE I KNOW I KNOW THERE'S A LONG HISTORY WITH THE CHURCH AND THEIR CONGREGATION GETTING TO THIS POINT SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ADDRESS THAT AS WELL BECAUSE THIS IS JUST LIKE THE CITY SAYING WE WANT TO DEVELOP BUT THE PARTNERSHIP THAT WE HAD MR. MAYOR COUNCILMEMBER LIKE THERE'S A GREAT POINT. WE DO HAVE OUR PASTOR JENNIFER HERE FROM ST MARK'S WHO CAN SPEAK A LITTLE BIT TOWARD WHY THEY CHOSE TO WORK WITH THE HRA ON THIS. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING JENNIFER. HI MS. I AM THE PASTOR AT ST MARK'S UNITED CHURCH. CHRIST I HAVE BEEN THERE FOR 27 YEARS AND I HAVE A LITTLE SPIEL SO IT WILL ADDRESS WHAT YOU ASKED. ST MARK'S WAS BUILT IN 1956 AND IT IS SAID AT THAT TIME IN BLOOMINGTON IT WAS GROWING AT ABOUT 50 FAMILIES PER WEEK SO SO MUCH WAS HAPPENING AT THAT TIME. A LOT OF THE SCHOOLS WERE BEING BUILT SO THE CHURCHES WERE BUILT. IT WAS A TIME OF GREAT GROWTH. ST MARK'S WAS ACTUALLY A KINDERGARTEN BEFORE BLOOMINGTON PUBLIC SCHOOLS HAD KINDERGARTEN SO THERE WERE MANY PEOPLE THAT ATTENDED THAT COMMUNITY MEETING WHEN I MENTIONED THAT THAT RAISED THEIR HAND AND SAID YEP, I WAS AT ST MARK'S FOR KINDERGARTEN AND WE HAVE THE PLAYGROUND AND THE KITCHEN BECAUSE OF THAT REASON BUT THE BOOM DIDN'T LAST AND IT CHANGED. PEOPLE GREW UP, PEOPLE MOVED TO JOBS. CHILDREN GROW UP AND MOVED AWAY AND DID NOT COME BACK AND MEMBERSHIP KIND OF WAXED AND WANED OVER THE FEW DECADES AND MORE RECENTLY WE'VE SEEN A LOT OF CHANGE NOT ONLY WITHIN THE CHURCH BUT WITHIN THE CULTURE AND THE PANDEMIC HAD A LITTLE BIT TO DO WITH THAT BUT NOT EXCLUSIVELY. WE DID TRY SEVERAL ATTEMPTS AT REVITALIZATION AND THAT WAS NOT SUCCESSFUL AND SO AFTER MUCH DISCERNMENT AFTER A LENGTHY TIME THE CONGREGATION MADE THE DECISION TO COMPLETE ITS MINISTRY AND CLOSE OUR DOORS AND IT WAS DONE WITH A LOT OF SAD HEARTS. IT'S BEEN A HARD TIME BUT THROUGHOUT ST MARK'S LIFE SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY OF BLOOMINGTON AND TO THE LARGER WORLD HAS ALWAYS BEEN SIGNIFICANT BUT WE REALLY TAKE SERIOUSLY THE COMMANDMENT TO FEED AND CLOTHE AND VISIT AND JESUS'S COMMANDMENTS ON THAT ARE JESUS'S SAYINGS ON THE 25TH CHAPTER OF MATTHEW AND SO FOR DECADES WE HAVE SUPPORTED REAP FINANCIALLY THROUGH VOLUNTEERISM THROUGH CONTRIBUTIONS, THROUGH LINE ITEMS, COLLECTIONS AND LOAVES AND FISHES. WE ALSO PARTNERED WITH WASHBURN ELEMENTARY WHICH WAS OUR LOCAL ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND FOR YEARS HATS, MITTENS, COATS ALL OF THAT AND THEN WE BEGAN TO PARTNERSHIP WITH EVERY MEAL PROVIDING BACKPACK PROGRAMS FOR THE KIDS AND SO WE'VE DONE THAT FOR MULTIPLE YEARS AS WELL. WE'VE OFFERED OUR CHURCH TO THE COMMUNITY. IT'S BEEN A POLLING SITE. IT IS A PLACE WHERE GROUPS HAVE GATHERED AND PRESCHOOL MUSIC PROGRAMS, MUSIC LESSONS AND RECENTLY WELL NOT THAT RECENT TEN PLUS YEARS WE WERE HOME TO ANOTHER MISSION START CHURCH SO WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO BE AN ASSET TO THE COMMUNITY SO THE BUILDING OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS YET ONE LAST WAY THAT WE CAN CONTRIBUTE TO THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON. I AM A LONGTIME BLOOMINGTON RESIDENT. MOST OF OUR CHURCH MEMBERS ARE LONGTIME BLOOMINGTON RESIDENTS AND WE HAVE APPRECIATED WHAT BLOOMINGTON HAS TO OFFER. OWNING A HOME IS SO MUCH MORE EXPENSIVE THAN IT WAS EVEN WHEN I MOVED HERE 25 YEARS AGO AND SO SUPPORTING AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS SOMETHING THAT ALIGNS WITH OUR VALUES AND THAT WE FEEL STRONGLY ABOUT. AND SO THIS PARTNERSHIP HAS BEEN SOMETHING THAT WE FEEL WE WANT TO SUPPORT. THANK YOU, PASTOR. ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. COUNCILMEMBER VERY WELL I WOULD THINK YES. THANK YOU ALSO ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS BACKGROUND ON THERE WAS SOME GOOD INFORMATION I DIDN'T REALIZE IT WAS A KINDERGARTEN AT ONE POINT IF NOT COUNCIL I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON ITEM 4.2. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING A COMP PLAN AMENDMENT FOR ST MARK'S AT 8630 XERXES AVENUE SOUTH SOUTH. ANYONE IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS WISHING TO SPEAK TO ITEM 4.2 THIS EVENING PLEASE ? GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS JEFFREY SUGAR 50 PLUS YEAR RESIDENT IN BLOOMINGTON. I WAS AT A PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING LAST MONTH I BELIEVE IT WAS FOR THIS TOPIC AND IT DOESN'T SPEAK IN MY ESTIMATION IT DOESN'T FIT THE IDEA OF LOW INCOME HOUSING EXCEPT FOR I MEAN I THINK THAT THE NUMBER TO CONSTRUCT EACH UNIT WAS GOING TO BE IN THE BALLPARK OF HALF $1 MILLION AND THEY WOULD BE SOLD FOR SOMEWHERE AROUND HALF OF THAT. SO THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF BURDEN ON ME AS A TAXPAYER TO HELP BRING UP THAT GAP AND THE PROPERTY TAXES ON A HALF MILLION DOLLAR ASSESSED HOME IT'S GOING TO BE $5,000 MAYBE MORE A YEAR ADDING 400 TO $500 A MONTH JUST FOR PROPERTY TAXES TO A LOW INCOME FAMILY THAT SEEMS LIKE A BURDEN. IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE YOU'RE DOING ANYBODY A FAVOR SO I HOPE IT'S KICKED DOWN THE ROAD. BUT THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. THANKS. THANK YOU, MR. SHIRKER. SUGAR. SUGAR. EXCUSE ME. APOLOGIZE. IT'S ALL RIGHT. OTHERS IN THE CHAMBERS WISHING TO SPEAK . GOOD EVENING. WELCOME. HELLO. THANK YOU. MY NAME IS ANN ROTH AND I'M A RESIDENT OF BLOOMINGTON FOR SEVERAL YEARS I HAVE SOME SIMILAR CONCERNS I THINK IN THE MEETING THAT I WENT TO WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION AT THE CHURCH, HE SAID THE COST OF BUILDING THE HOUSES WOULD BE AROUND 5 TO 600,000 AND THEN THE ADDITIONAL INFRASTRUCTURE WITH UTILITIES AND SUCH IT NEEDED TO BE IN PLACE. SO MY QUESTION IS THIS REALLY A GOOD USE OF GRANT MONEY WHEN THE TYPICAL HOUSE IN THE AREA SELLS FOR A LOT LESS THAN THAT WOULD IT BE BETTER TO USE THOSE FUNDS ELSEWHERE TO BUY A HOUSE? THEY WERE HOUSE TO TWO HOUSES DOWN FOR US HAD SOLD FOR 340,000. SO DO YOU BUILD ONE FOR 700,000 OR BUY ONE FOR 340,000? MAYBE MAKE A FEW IMPROVEMENTS ACTUALLY PROVIDE MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES? I THINK THERE IS AN ISSUE WITH AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN THE COMMUNITY BUT THIS SEEMS LIKE A HIGH COST TO BUILD EACH OF THOSE HOUSES IN THE COMMUNITY. AND I ALSO HAVE A QUESTION IF THERE ARE OTHER SITES THAT WERE CONSIDERED OTHER THAN THE SITE TO BUILD THE SORT OF A PROPERTY THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE PRIYANKA ANYONE ON THE PHONE MAYBE WE DO NOT HAVE ANYONE ON LINE LAST CHANCE FOR ANYBODY IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS TO SPEAK ON IT AND 4.2 COUNSEL I DON'T SEE ANYONE COMING FORWARD NO ONE ON THE PHONE. I WOULD LOOK FOR A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON ITEM 4.2 SO MOVED ST MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON A 4.2 NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO. COUPLE OF QUESTIONS I THINK MAYBE WE NEED SOME CLARIFICATION ON THE THE USE OF THE GRANT THE COST OF THE HOUSING, WHAT THE EXPECTED LISTING PRICE IS. COULD YOU HELP US OUT ON THAT PLEASE? THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. SO THE COSTS YOU KNOW THAT'S A BALLPARK ESTIMATES AT THIS POINT WE'RE STILL VERY EARLY WE'RE ESTIMATING BUT IT COULD BE ANYWHERE FROM 6 TO 800,000 TO DEVELOP THESE HOMES. SHE MENTIONED THE STREET CONSTRUCTION IS EXPENSIVE BUT WE'RE IN THE DESIGN PHASE OF THAT SO WE KIND OF HAVE A RANGE OF WHAT THAT COULD COST AND HAVE CONTINGENCIES BUILT IN. BUT THE VALUE OF THESE HOMES WILL END UP BEING ABOUT 4 OR 500,000 AND THEY'LL BE SOLD FOR ABOUT 300,000. SO THERE IS A GAP THERE THAT IS BEING FILLED PRIMARILY WITH THE GRANT FROM MINNESOTA HOUSING BUT OTHER FUNDING SOURCES AS WELL THAT WE ARE IDENTIFYING IN OTHER GRANT SOURCES WE HAVE EXPLORED OTHER SITES AS WELL BUT AGAIN WE'RE ONLY ABOUT HALFWAY THERE AND WE'RE BUILT OUT COMMUNITY SO IT'S HARD TO FIND AN OPPORTUNITY LIKE THIS WHERE YOU CAN DO A WHOLE SWATH AT ONCE DOING IT PIECEMEAL HERE AND THERE FINDING SITES THAT MIGHT NEED COBBLING TOGETHER IT TAKES A LOT MORE STAFF TIME, A LOT MORE EFFORT AND THE PURSUIT MIGHT NOT END UP COMING TO FRUITION IN THE END. SO IT ENDS UP BEING MORE COSTLY BECAUSE YOU DON'T ACTUALLY GET TO THAT DONE DEAL AT THAT AND RIGHT SO THERE IS EFFICIENCIES WITH THIS THE END GOALS THAT DO THAT BUT WE'RE INCREASING THE SUPPLY. SO YES THERE IS THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO REHAB. WE DO HAVE OUR OWN REHAB PROGRAM AND OTHER PROGRAMS DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE. SO IT'S A TOOLBOX THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH IN DIFFERENT APPROACHES AND THIS IS ONE WHERE WE CAN INCREASE THE SUPPLY AND TAKE ADVANTAGE OF SOME OF OUR RECENT ZONING CODE CHANGES. I THINK THAT WAS MOSTLY THE QUESTION. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE THAT. SO JUST A AGAIN BALLPARK BECAUSE I KNOW YOU'RE NOT TOO FAR IN THIS BUT HOW MANY SQUARE FEET ARE WE TALKING ABOUT HERE? THESE ARE THESE ARE THESE RAMBLERS ARE THESE TWO STORIES? >> WHAT KIND OF HOMES ARE THESE? THAT IS A GOOD QUESTION, MR. MAYOR. THEY WE DON'T KNOW. AT SOME POINT NEXT YEAR WE WILL BE WORKING WITH DEVELOPERS. WE HOPE TO BE WORKING WITH EMERGING DEVELOPERS. WE ACTUALLY DO HAVE SPECIFIC GRANT FUNDING TO HAVE MENTORS WORK WITH DEVELOPERS WHO ARE COMING OUT OF PROGRAMS OR HAVE ONLY DONE A FEW KIND OF DEVELOPMENTS TO INCREASE THE CAPACITY WITHIN THE REGION TO DO THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT THAT KIND OF SINGLE FAMILY INFILL DEVELOPMENT AND IT WILL BE UP TO THEM TO DECIDE WHAT THOSE HOUSES LOOK LIKE. BUT IF WE CAN CREATE KIND OF A GENERAL PARAMETERS I WOULD ESTIMATE THAT ARE ABOUT 1500 SQUARE FOOT YOU KNOW, THREE BEDROOM OR LOOKING TO SUPPORT FAMILIES HERE WE'RE NOT LOOKING TO DO KIND OF THE TOWNHOME OR WHERE THEY COME DETACHED TOWNHOMES THAT ARE OUT THERE THESE DAYS WE WANT TO FIT THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO EXACTLY WHAT IT WILL BE BUT IT WILL BE PROBABLY IN THAT 15, 16, 1700 SQUARE FOOT RANGE BUT THEY WILL BE LARGER LOTS THAT COULD BE ADDED ONTO IN THE FUTURE OR AS THINGS GO ON. SO THEY ARE DEEP PLOTS THAT WILL ALLOW FOR FUTURE OPPORTUNITIES TOO. >> SO 600FT ESTIMATING YOU KNOW 6 TO $800,000 TO DEVELOP THESE AND I GET IT. I MEAN HOUSING IS THE THREE L'S. I MEAN IT'S LAND LABOR, LUMBER AND WE CAN'T CONTROL ANY OF THOSE. BUT THAT SEEMS LIKE I THINK IS THE GOING RATE IN THE TWIN CITIES RIGHT NOW IN TERMS OF IF YOU WANT TO BUILD A HOME WHICH IS WHY IT'S SO DIFFICULT TO BUILD AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN THE TWIN CITIES RIGHT NOW IF COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS AND COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN AND COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO. I'LL JUST A QUICK QUESTION IF I MAY. I'M BASED ON YOUR COMMENTS THAT REGARDLESS OF THE COSTS OF BUILDING THE HOUSE WHICH COULD BE $800,000, YOU WOULD STILL SELL IT FOR BUT WHAT THE AVERAGE HOUSE SELLS IN THE AREA CORRECT. BASED ON THAT DO THE TAXES WOULD INCREASE TO THE NEIGHBORS BECAUSE THE PRICES REMAIN ABOUT THE SAME, RIGHT? IS THAT TRUE OR THAT COULD CHANGE ALSO, MR. MAYOR COUNCILMAN RIVAS, FOR GETTING A LITTLE BIT INTO THIS TESTING FEEL THAT I CAN GIVE YOU THEY PROBABLY HAVE A BETTER MORE SPECIFIC ANSWER BUT ESSENTIALLY BECAUSE THESE HOMES WILL BE SIMILAR SIZE YOU KNOW, SIMILAR LOTS THEY WILL BUT THEY'RE NEW. THEY'LL BE VALUED ACTUALLY A LITTLE BIT HIGHER. NOT A HUGE DIFFERENCE ON THE VALUE THAT THEY'RE GOING TO ALL OF A SUDDEN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD HAS THIS HIGH INCOME NEIGHBORHOOD THAT'S BRINGING UP THE VALUES OF EVERYONE HOUSES ISN'T GOING TO CHANGE BUT IT'LL BE HIGHER VALUED THAN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AROUND BY VIRTUE OF BEING NEW CONSTRUCTION. BUT OVER TIME IT'LL KIND OF SMOOTH OUT RIGHT BECAUSE THEY ARE SIMILAR. SO IN 1520 YEARS IT WON'T BE THE NEW NEIGHBORHOOD ANYMORE. IT'LL BE KIND OF SIMILAR AND SO IT'S THE IMPACT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S TAXES IS GOING TO BE NOT NOTICEABLE. SO IT WOULDN'T BE AS DRASTIC AS ANYBODY WOULD IMAGINE. STILL CHANGE BUT NOT SO MUCH. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER LOWMAN. THANK YOU. MINE ARE BASICALLY ALMOST SAME LINES SO BE 13 LOTS IT CAN BE SUBDIVIDED IN OTHER WAYS SO THERE MAY BE MORE AND THOSE WERE ALL PAID TAXES LIKE ANY OTHER. AND THEN MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT THE GAP BETWEEN WHAT'S BEING PAID FOR IS GOING TO BE HANDLED BY GRANTS AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. SO I KIND OF KIND OF DO THAT SO THERE THERE REALLY WOULDN'T BE AN IMPACT TO TAXPAYERS, RIGHT? I MEAN THAT'S NOT THE PLAN INITIALLY RIGHT, MR. MAYOR? COUNCILMEMBER LEMON THAT IS THE PLAN THAT MEAN DEVELOPMENT IS DEVELOPMENT. THINGS CHANGE AND WHERE WE'RE GOING TO FIND THESE FUNDING SOURCES IT'S COMPLICATED OBVIOUSLY WITH DIFFERENT GRANTS AND WE'RE PULLING TOGETHER. SO TO GIVE YOU THE EXACT FUNDING SOURCES RIGHT NOW WE'RE STILL WORKING THROUGH THAT BUT THAT YOU KNOW THE GOAL IS NOT TO HAVE THIS GREAT IMPACT ON THE TAXPAYERS. IT'S MEANT TO USE THOSE SOURCES THAT ARE ALREADY AVAILABLE THAT WE'VE ALREADY ALLOCATED THAT WE'VE ALREADY BEEN PLANNING FOR BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THIS GRANT NOW FOR A YEAR AND A HALF AND THEN I THINK I HEARD AS PART OF THE CONDITION YOU KNOW YOU CAN BE IS CONDITION IS THAT REALLY THE CHURCH WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS AS AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING EXPERIENCE WITH YOU KNOW WITH THAT THAT AREA RIGHT AND THE CHURCH'S WISHES IF WE WERE TO GO OKAY THANK YOU PLAN COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. FIRST OFF, I JUST WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE AND THANK YOU PASTOR JENNIFER FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT. THESE ARE DIFFICULT DECISIONS I HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN CHURCH PLANTINGS AND CHURCH SEATINGS. IN MY EXPERIENCE AS A AS A PERSON WHO GOES TO CHURCH AND I KNOW THAT IT'S REALLY DIFFICULT DECISIONS. SO THANK YOU FOR COMING IN FRONT OF EVERYBODY, LETTING US ALL SCRUTINIZE SOMETHING THAT'S EMOTIONALLY IMPORTANT TO YOU. SO APPRECIATE THAT VERY MUCH. MY MY QUESTION TO YOU IS YOU THE MATH IS HARD TO MAKE SENSE OF BECAUSE THERE'S SO MANY MOVING PARTS AND OF COURSE THINGS ARE GOING TO GET POTENTIALLY WORSE, NOT BETTER WITH THE CURRENT CLIMATE TARIFFS, ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF. SO SO I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU CAN'T NECESSARILY SAY THIS AND I'M NOT GOING TO HD YOU TO IT IF TWO YEARS FROM NOW YOU COME IN AND SAY SOMETHING DIFFERENT. BUT FROM WHAT I'M GATHERING BASED ON THE SCRUTINY AND I KNOW WE HAVE MEMBERS OF THE HRA BOARD ON OUR COUNCIL HERE SO MAYBE YOU CAN WEIGH IN ON YOUR EXPERIENCE ON THIS IF YOU WANT THAT THE COST SUBSIDIZATION THAT YOU'RE DOING IN THE INTENT IS NOT IT? WELL, LET ME ASK IT THIS WAY HOW WHAT PERCENT OF THE DOLLARS THAT YOU ARE THAT THAT YOU ARE PROPOSING BE GOING INTO THE DEVELOPMENT OF THIS PROPERTY IS ACTUAL HRA MONEY LIKE PERCENTAGE WISE MR. MAYOR COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO I'M TRYING TO THINK OF THE PRO FORMA NOW IN THE DIFFERENT SOURCES IT GETS CONVOLUTED BECAUSE WE HAVE DIFFERENT GRANTS AND DIFFERENT BUCKETS THAT WE'RE PULLING FROM AND WE STILL HAVEN'T FINALIZED ALL THOSE BUCKETS YET EITHER. SO I'M TRYING TO THINK I'M GOING TO SAY ABOUT A QUARTER OF IT WOULD BE A TRADE OR IT'S ABOUT HALF OF THIS PROJECT IS FUNDED JUST THROUGH THE VIRTUE OF THE SALE OF THE PROPERTY. RIGHT? SO WE HAVE ABOUT HALF OF IT FILLED AND ABOUT A QUARTER OF THAT IS HRA AND THE REMAINING MAJORITY OF THAT IS THE GRANT SOURCES THAT WE RECEIVED. YEAH THAT'S A HELPFUL ESTIMATE. THANK YOU. AND DO YOU DOES THE HRA CURRENTLY HAVE THOSE DOLLARS SET ASIDE FOR THE PROJECT YET? MR. MAYOR? COUNCILMEMBER D'ALESSANDRO YES WE'VE BEEN WE'VE WHEN WE'VE BEEN AWARDED THIS AND I BELIEVE IT WAS 2023 AWARDED WAS 2024 WE STARTED DOING WORK SO WE'VE BEEN PLANNING FOR THIS WITH OUR BUDGETS IN THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS. OKAY. BUT THOSE GRANT DOLLARS THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT I GUESS I'M ASKING ARE THERE HRA DOLLARS OVER AND ABOVE THE GRANT DOLLARS THAT ARE INVOLVED IN THIS? THERE LIKELY WILL BE. YES, THERE WILL BE. AND YOU HAVE THE MONEY FOR THAT TOO. OKAY. SO THAT AND THAT'S WITHIN THE CURRENT TAX BASE THAT YOU COLLECT. OKAY GREAT. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. OTHERS I WAS READING ALSO BECAUSE IT WAS A QUESTION I WAS GOING TO ASK FROM THE THE PLANNING COMMISSION ON MINUTES THE RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS IN PLACE TO MAINTAIN AFFORDABILITY EVEN IF AND WHEN THESE HOMES ARE WOULD BE SOLD. COULD YOU EXPLAIN THAT A BIT FOR US PLEASE, MR. MAYOR? COUNCIL MEMBERS THERE'S A COUPLE DIFFERENT WAYS TO DO IT AND SO I DON'T HAVE LIKE A SPECIFIC HOW WE ARE MAPPING IT OUT BUT THERE WILL BE A RESTRICTIVE COVENANT THAT WILL ESSENTIALLY ENSURE THAT AFFORDABILITY REMAINS FOR A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME LIKELY ABOUT 20 OR 30 YEARS AND IT PREVENTS THAT SITUATION WHERE YOU GO AROUND YOU WERE ONE OF THESE PEOPLE WHO MOVE IN, YOU'RE ABLE TO AFFORD IT AND THEN OBVIOUSLY THE VALUES HIGHER AND YOU TURN AROUND AND TRY AND SELL IT FOR MORE RIGHT? YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO DO THAT. YOU THEN HAVE TO SELL IT TO AN INCOME QUALIFIED PERSON SO THAT IT KIND OF STILL IS REMAIN CAPPED AT WHATEVER THAT IS. SO THERE WILL BE INCREMENTAL GROWTH BECAUSE OUR INCOMES INCREASE OVER TIME SO THAT THAT HAPPENS. BUT AT A CERTAIN POINT YOU'VE BEEN THERE LONG ENOUGH THAT YOU CAN THEN REAP SOME OF THAT EQUITY. BUT AGAIN LIKE WE SAID EVENTUALLY IT ALL KIND OF CONVERGES TOGETHER AFTER SO MANY YEARS THE NEW CONSTRUCTION IS JUST PART OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND YEAH. THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER CARTER. ARE WE READY FOR COMMENTS? WE ARE. I THINK WE'LL UNDER COMMENTS, YES. OKAY. SO I GUESS I JUST WANTED TO EMPHASIZE GROUNDING MYSELF BECAUSE THE DECISION REALLY IS TO REZONE RIGHT TO LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL. THAT'S THE DECISION IN FRONT OF US TODAY WHICH I AM VERY SUPPORTIVE OF. I THINK IT MAKES SENSE. SORRY INTERJECT IT'S ACTUALLY THE COMP PLAN AMENDMENT. IT IS OWNED RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL BUT IT IS GUIDED QUASI PUBLIC SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. YEAH I AM NOT A PLANNER SO SO RE GROUNDING US IN THAT AND I AM SUPPORTIVE. I THINK IT MAKES SENSE AGAIN I LIVE IN THIS AREA IT IS ALL RESIDENTIAL WITH THE EXCEPTION OF WASHBURN RIGHT THERE AND FROM THE SOUNDS OF IT THE HOUSES WILL BE SIMILAR TO THOSE AROUND IT. SO I'M NOT I'M NOT WORRIED ABOUT THAT AND IN FACT IF I WERE THE NEIGHBOR BEING A NEIGHBOR IN THIS AREA, IT I'M I'M RELIEVED THAT IT THIS IS ACTUALLY THE PLAN RIGHT COULD BE ALL KINDS OF THINGS AND SO I AM SUPPORTIVE OF THIS CHANGE I ALSO DID JUST WANT TO SAY BECAUSE THERE WAS A COMMENT MADE ABOUT THIS BEING LOW INCOME HOUSING AND I I DO WANT TO CLARIFY THAT THIS IS TECHNICALLY AFFORDABLE HOUSING RIGHT? SO HOUSING THAT PEOPLE CAN AFFORD YOU'VE USED THAT PHRASE MANY TIMES AND $105,000 A YEAR IS QUITE A BIT OF MONEY. SO AND THAT'S THE AVERAGE MEDIAN HOME INCOME RIGHT FOR THAT AREA. AND SO I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT FOR PEOPLE AND THEN I WOULD ALSO, YOU KNOW, JUST SAY TO MY COLLEAGUES UP HERE AND PEOPLE IN THE CROWD WE DO NOT GET THIS KIND OF OPPORTUNITY IN BLOOMINGTON . WE ARE A BUILT OUT CITY. THESE THINGS DO NOT COME AROUND VERY OFTEN. SO FOR US TO HAVE THIS OPPORTUNITY AND THEN TO HAVE A SOMEBODY AN ORGANIZATION IN THE COMMUNITY ST MARK'S WHO WANTS TO PARTNER WITH US TO CREATE AFFORDABLE HOMEOWNERSHIP OPPORTUNITIES FOR PEOPLE I MEAN THIS IS LIKE A PROBABLY ONCE IN EVERY I'M GOING TO SAY A COUPLE DECADES BUT I DON'T KNOW AND WE HAVE TALKED REPEATEDLY AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN BLOOMINGTON, HOW WE'VE DONE A LOT OF GREAT WORK IN THE RENTAL SPACE AND THAT WE NEEDED TO DO MORE IN THE HOMEOWNERSHIP SPACE AND THIS IS WHAT WE GET TO DO AS A CITY RIGHT? THESE ARE THE THE LEVERS THAT WE GET TO PULL SO THE OTHER THING THE ONE LAST THING I WANTED TO MENTION BECAUSE SOMEBODY MADE A COMMENT ABOUT HAVING TO PAY FOR THIS AND I KIND OF TOOK HER COMMENT AS YOU KNOW, TECH OTHER TAXPAYERS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO PAY FOR LIKE THE ROAD AND UTILITIES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. THE THING IS WE ARE ADDING I THINK 16 NEW HOUSEHOLDS TO OUR TAX BASE AND IF THEY LIVE IN THEIR HOUSE FOR 30 YEARS THEY'RE PAYING MILLIONS IN TAXES IN BLOOMINGTON THAT PAY FOR ROADS AND WATER AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS. AND SO I DON'T SEE IT AS YOU KNOW OTHER PEOPLE ARE PAYING FOR THAT STUFF. IT I MEAN WE'RE ALL PAYING FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE OF OUR CITY SO I WILL STOP TALKING. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER THE COMMENTS COUNCIL MEMBER NELSON YEAH. THANK YOU MAYOR I'LL BE VERY QUICK BUT MY FIRST HOME ABOUT 4 OR 5 BLOCKS FROM THIS LOCATION VERY FAMILIAR WITH IT. I THINK THIS IS A NICE FIT WITHIN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. APPRECIATE WHAT THE CHURCH IS DOING TO KIND OF LEAVE A LEGA IN THAT AREA OF HOUSING THAT PEOPLE CAN AFFORD THAT FITS WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. I THINK IT'S A GREAT FIT. OBVIOUSLY WE'RE LOOKING AT THE COMP PLAN AMENDMENT. WE DON'T HAVE A DEVELOPMENT. I'VE GOT TONS OF IDEAS ON THAT. I'M NOT GOING TO GET INTO THAT . SO BUT I'LL GET INTO THAT LATER MAYBE WITH STAFF AND BECAUSE I THINK THERE'S SOME REALLY GOOD OPPORTUNITIES THERE TO MEET SOME SOME NEEDS. BUT I THINK THE BIGGEST ONE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS PROVIDING HOMEOWNERSHIP OPPORTUNITIES FOR FAMILIES TO BE IN BLOOMINGTON. I WOULD AGREE WITH YOU COUNCILMEMBER, THIS CHECKS A LOT OF BOXES FOR US. I MEAN THE THE HOUSES THAT HOUSING THAT PEOPLE CAN AFFORD . INFILL REDEVELOPMENT IN AN AREA AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO TO PARTNER WITH THE FAITH COMMUNITY AND BRING GOOD TO THE COMMUNITY. I THINK THIS JUST IS A IS A GOOD STEP FORWARD. I THINK THE COMP PLAN AMENDMENT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE AND I THINK IT'S A I THINK IT'S A SOLID A SOLID STEP FORWARD AS I SAID AND TO YOUR POINT COUNCILMEMBER NELSON, I LOOK FORWARD TO EVENTUALLY THINKING ABOUT A DEVELOPMENT PLAN HERE AND HOW THIS COULD ALL LOOK AND HOW IT COULD ALL WORK. COUNCILMEMBER MOMENT BRIEFLY I JUST WANT TO EXPRESS MY FULL SUPPORT OF THIS CONFERENCE PLAN AMENDMENT BEFORE US TODAY. SO HONORED TO REPRESENT A COMMUNITY THAT CONSISTENTLY LOOKS TO THE FUTURE AS ONE IS TO TAKE BOLD INTENTIONAL STEPS TO TO GET AFFORDABLE HOUSING HERE IN BLOOMINGTON. I DO THINK THAT THE ROAD IS A GOOD TRIBUTE AND I WANTED TO JUST MARK THAT HERE. I KNOW THAT WE'RE NOT AT THAT POINT YET TO JUST A TREMENDOUS TRADITION AND FAITH COMMUNITY IN OUR CHURCH. I HAPPEN TO BELONG TO THAT THAT FAITH SO THANK YOU FOR THAT COUNCIL. I THINK ALL HAS BEEN CENTERED LOOK FOR ACTION ON ITEM 4.2 THIS EVENING. I'M HAPPY TO MAKE THE MOTION. DALLAS SURE. I MOVED TO ADOPT RESOLUTION APPROVING A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT TO RE GUIDE THE PROPERTY AT 8630 XERXES AVENUE SOUTH FROM QUASI PUBLIC TO LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL SECOND MOST OF MY COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS TO APPROVE A COMP PLAN AMENDMENT TO RE GUIDE THE PROPERTY 8060 8630 XERXES AVENUE SOUTH FROM QUASI PUBLIC TO LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL. ANY FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS HEARING? NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO. THANK YOU VERY MUCH PASTOR PLEASE PASS YOUR THANKS ON TO YOUR CONGREGATION AND TO COUNCIL MEMBER WOMAN'S POINT. I LOOK FORWARD TO THE RIBBON CUTTING IT. WOULD IT BE ST MARK'S STREET DRY AVENUE? I'M NOT SURE WE WILL FIT. WE'LL THINK OF SOMETHING I'M SURE WE'LL TAKE THIS IN AND COURTS DON'T COURT DO I LIKE COURT I LIKE THAT BECAUSE I'M MOVING ON COUNCIL WE WILL GO TO ITEM 4.3 OUR THIRD PUBLIC HEARING OF THE EVENING. THIS IS REGARDING THE BLOOMINGTON COMMUNITY HEALTH AND WELLNESS CENTER. MR. CENTENARIO IS BACK. WELL GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME . SO YOUR NEXT HEARING TONIGHT IS THE REGARDING THE COMMUNITY HEALTH AND WELLNESS CENTER AND THERE'S A NUMBER OF ENTITLEMENTS OR APPROVALS THAT WE'RE ASKING YOU TO TAKE ACTION ON TONIGHT. ONE IS ANOTHER COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT IN THIS CASE THE EXISTING COMMUNITY HEALTH ONE OF THE CREEKSIDE COMMUNITY CENTER IS GUIDED FOR A PUBLIC LAND USE BUT THERE ARE TWO OTHER PERSONS OF THE CITY ALREADY OWNS THAT ARE GUIDED FOR MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL SO WE WANTED TO MAKE THE ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT SITE CONSISTENT AND THEN SUBSEQUENTLY MAKE SURE THE ZONING WAS CONSISTENT AND THEN WHAT I THINK A LOT OF FOLKS ARE INTERESTED IN TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT OR HEARING ABOUT IS THE DEVELOPMENT PLANS FOR THE COMMUNITY CENTER AND FINALLY MORE OF A TECHNICAL ITEM BUT WE HAVE THREE SEPARATE PARCELS THAT MAKE UP THE SITE AND A PRELIMINARY FINAL PLAT WOULD COMBINE THOSE THREE PARCELS INTO ONE. AND SO THERE IS A MOTION FOR YOU LATER ON FOR THAT. MR. CENTENARIO CAN I GET YOU MORE IN THE MIC? I THINK YOU'RE TALLER THAN OUR PREVIOUS OH SORRY I WANTED UP SO YEAH SO WE CAN HEAR YOU A LITTLE BIT BETTER SIX THREE PROBLEMS THAT THANK YOU. JUST THIS LITTLE BETTER BETTER THANK OKAY THANK YOU. SO I'LL JUST TOUCH ON EXISTING CONDITIONS SO I'VE INVERTED THIS IMAGE YOU KNOW WEST 19TH STREET WHICH IS AN EAST WEST STREET IS TO THE LEFT AND THEN PENN IS ON THE BOTTOM OF THE IMAGE AND NEWTON AVENUE IS IS UP ON TOP. SO WE'RE ALL VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE CREEKSIDE CENTER SITE. IT'S A SMALLER BUILDING. OH WOW. THANKS. CAN BRILLIANT TEAMWORK AND SO WE KNOW THAT A LOT OF THE SITE IS THERE'S A YOU CAN SEE ON THE IMAGE A SOCCER FIELD OF BASEBALL DIAMOND AND THEN SOME GREEN SPACE TODAY THERE'S A STREET VIEW FROM 90TH AND PENN YOU CAN YOU KNOW WE'RE PRETTY FAMILIAR WITH IT THE EXISTING SITE AS IT SITS TODAY IN TERMS OF THE SITE IN ITS BROADER CONTEXT THOUGH, I THINK IT'S WORTH NOTING THAT AGAIN WE'RE ON THE CORNER OF 90TH AND PENN AND THERE'S A THERE'S A LOT OF CONCERN UNDERSTANDABLY SO ON WHAT THE IMPACT IS ON NEWTON WHEN WE LOOK AT OTHER SIDE STREETS WERE AT PENN AND ON THE EIGHTH WHICH ARE BOTH ARTERIAL STREETS SO WE THINK OF LIKE A SITE SUITABILITY STANDPOINT FROM A YOU KNOW THE SITE IS SERVED BY TRANSIT. WE ARE ALONG 2 OR 2 ARTERIAL STREETS. WE DO THINK OVERALL IN THE SITE IN ITS BROADER CONTEXT THAT THIS IS A THIS IS A SUITABLE SITE FOR A COMMUNITY CENTER AND SO JUST WANT TO TOUCH ON OVERALL THE PRELIMINARY FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND SO THE COMMUNITY CENTER THE VAST MAJORITY OF IT IS BEING PROPOSED AS A ONE PHASE DEVELOPMENT ABOUT 106,000 SQUARE FOOT HEALTH CAMI HEALTH WELLNESS CENTER AND THEN A POTENTIAL FUTURE PHASE IN THE NORTHEAST CORNER. YOU CAN SEE THAT YELLOW RECTANGLE WOULD BE FOR A THIRD GYM IN THE FUTURE IF IT IS NEEDED IN THE FUTURE. I JUST HAVE A FEW IMAGES THAT YOU MAY HAVE SEEN IN MARKETING MATERIALS BUT HERE WE HAVE THE MAIN ENTRANCE. THIS IS THE SOUTH BUILDING ELEVATION THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF THE BUILDING. THIS IS CLOSE CLOSER TO NEWTON AND THEN WE HAVE SOME UPDATED GRAPHICS THAT SHOW JUST SOME YOU KNOW, OPPORTUNITIES FOR FOR MURALS. YOU KNOW, THIS ISN'T FINAL DESIGN OR ANYTHING BUT YOU KNOW, THE INTENT OF THE DESIGN TEAM IS TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, A VERY ATTRACTIVE BUILDING AND I THINK THIS IS JUST A CONCERT CONCEPT OF WHAT SORT OF MURAL OPPORTUNITIES THERE WOULD BE. SO THIS IS THE WAS SHOWN HERE IS THE CORNER OF 19TH AND PENN, THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF THE BUILDING AND THEN ON THE OTHER SIDE THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF THE BUILDING SOME OF THE ADDITIONAL OPPORTUNITIES FOR ARTWORK AND THEN THE ALONG 19TH STREET THE YOU KNOW THE EAST WEST PORTION OF THE FACADE YOU CAN SEE IN FRONT OF YOU. AND SO WITH THESE TYPES OF FACILITIES THERE'S A LOT GOING ON A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT USES WITHIN THE BUILDING AQUATICS FITNESS THERE'S MULTIPURPOSE ROOMS, INDOOR PLAYGROUND THE OF COURSE PARKS AND REC WOULD HAVE ITS SPACE SUBSTANTIAL PORTION OF THE BUILDING WOULD BE FOR PUBLIC HEALTH AND WORK OPERATIONS. THIS IS A TWO STORY PROPOSED BUILDING SO THE SECOND FLOOR WOULD BE FITNESS AND CARDIO AND IT'S WHEN WE LOOK AT CODE REQUIREMENTS WE HAVE A VARIETY OF CODE REQUIREMENTS THAT WE NEED TO REVIEW ANY DEVELOPMENT APPLICATION AGAINST AND THERE'S TWO ELEMENTS THAT NEED SOME LEVEL FLEXIBILITY. ONE IS RELATES TO PARKING ISLANDS. YOU CAN SEE THAT IMAGE ON THE SCREEN THERE'S A CENTER GREEN SPINE IF YOU WILL THAT WOULD BE HEAVILY LANDSCAPED BUT ALSO SERVE AS A STORMWATER MANAGEMENT FACILITY. IF YOU CAN SEE ON THE SCREEN THERE'S TWO YOU KNOW WHAT NORMALLY WOULD REQUIRE LIKE A PARK LANDSCAPED PARKING ISLANDS INSTEAD OF THIS SPINE DOES REQUIRE SOME LEVEL OF FLEXIBILITY FROM CITY CODE. WE ACTUALLY THINK THIS IS A REALLY GREAT ALTERNATIVE BREAKS UP THE THE PARKING LOT VERY WELL AS A LOT OF TREES AND ALSO SERVES AS STORMWATER MANAGEMENT AND SO THE NUMBER OF PARKING STALLS THAT'S BEEN PROPOSED IS CHANGED A LITTLE BIT OVER THE ITERATIONS OF THE PLAN. WE'VE SEEN 323 STALLS OR 321 STALLS. THE MOST RECENT ITERATION WHICH RESULTED FROM COMMENTS FROM THE TRAFFIC STUDY AND THEN ALSO CONVERSATIONS WITH THE HENNEPIN COUNTY WE'RE AT 322 AND THAT SHOWS A WE'LL GET INTO MORE DETAIL ON ON WHAT THOSE CHANGES REPRESENTED. BUT THE OTHER BIT OF FLEXIBILITY IS RELATED TO THE AMOUNT OF PARKING SUPPLY WHEN WE SEPARATE ALL THE VARIOUS LAND USES OF THE BUILDING DETERMINE THEIR OWN PARK REQUIREMENT AND THEN ADD IT ALL UP. THE TOTAL CURRENT IS ABOUT 460 PLUS STALLS WHICH WE FELT WAS A HIGH REQUIREMENT BUT BAKED INTO CITY CODE IS A PROCESS TO GO THROUGH A PARKING STUDY TO GET AT WHAT MORE MORE IN LINE WITH WHAT THE EXPECTED PARKING DEMAND IS GOING TO BE AND THAT CAME MUCH LOWER THAN WHAT WHAT THE CITY CODE REQUIRED. SO WE FEEL THE 3 OR 22 STALLS THAT ARE PROPOSED IS MORE THAN ADEQUATE FOR THE FACILITY. YOU'VE PROBABLY SEEN A LOT OF CORRESPONDENCE RELATED TO HELLMAN COUNTY. WHAT THEY HAVE APPROVED OR NOT APPROVED AND WE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH THE COUNTY AND ACCESS ALONG PENN AND AS A HENNEPIN COUNTY STREET AND THEY WILL THEY WILL HAVE TO APPROVE A PERMIT TO DO WORK IN THEIR PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY AND ORIGINALLY THE SITE PLAN SHOWED TWO ACCESS POINTS ONE ESSENTIALLY WHAT'S THERE TODAY TO THE CREEKSIDE SITE AND THEN A SECOND ACCESS TO THE NORTH THAT WAS INTENDED TO BE A RIGHT OUT IF YOU CAN SEE MY CURSOR HERE NOT A FULL ACCESS BUT A RIGHT OUT THE COUNTY SAID NO, WE'RE NOT SUPPORTIVE OF THAT. BUT YOU KNOW, HERE'S WHAT WE THINK COULD WORK WELL, HERE'S OUR COMMENTS BASED ON YOUR SITE PLAN AND HERE'S ESSENTIALLY A WE'RE SUPPORTIVE OF THIS ALTERNATIVE. SO THE DESIGN TEAM TOOK THAT FEEDBACK AND THAT LED TO THE CURRENT ITERATION THAT'S BEFORE YOU TONIGHT TO SHOW ONE FULL ACCESS ALONG PENN AVENUE AND YOU CAN SEE THAT IN THE SCREEN HERE THERE ARE YOU KNOW THERE'S AGAIN THERE'S A LOT GOING ON WITH THE SITE WITH THE BUILDING BUT YOU HAVE THIS FULL ACCESS ON PENN AND YOU STILL NEED TO ACCOMMODATE TRASH PICKUP. AND SO THERE'S THIS TURNAROUND THE DESIGN TEAM WAS ABLE TO FIT ON THE SITE THAT ACCOMMODATES FIRE OR EMERGENCY SERVICES DELIVERIES, TRASH PICKUP AND SO THEY CAN USE THAT TURNAROUND TO ENTER AND EXIT THE SITE QUITE EASILY. NOW AGAIN, GOING BACK TO THE CONCERNS THAT WE'VE HEARD AROUND NEWTON, THE DESIGN TEAM PUT TOGETHER SOME ADDITIONAL RENDERINGS VERY MUCH FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF NEWTON. SO HERE WE'RE HERE THERE'S AN IMAGE OF 90TH AND NEWTON LOOKING SOUTHWEST. THE DESIGN TEAM CAN GO INTO MORE DETAIL BUT THERE'S A LOT OF LANDSCAPING ELEMENTS ALONG NEWTON BOTH YOU KNOW HAVE A LANDSCAPE WITH SHRUBS AND TREES BUT THEN ALSO A BERM THAT WOULD, YOU KNOW, EXTEND BEYOND OR ABOVE THE GRADE OF THE STREET ITSELF. AND THE IDEA THERE IS TO BLOCK HEADLIGHTS. YOU KNOW, INEVITABLY IT'S DARK A LOT IN MINNESOTA SO TO BLACK HEADLIGHTS FROM NEWTON AVENUE ANOTHER IMAGE NEWTON BID BLOCK AND SEE THE THIS FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF THE NEWTON PROPERTIES TO THE EAST LOOKING WEST TOWARDS THE BUILDING AND THEN MOVING SOUTH ALONG NEWTON LOOKING TO THE NORTHWEST AND THEN AGAIN THIS IS ALONG THE SIDEWALK FOR NEWTON AND THIS IS A RENDERING YOU CAN SEE THE BERM AND THEN THE LANDSCAPING ALONG THE STREET AND SO THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF INTEREST ON TRAFFIC TRAFFIC STUDY WHAT THE IMPACT OF THAT WOULD BE RIGHTFULLY SO. AND I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO THE CITY'S TRAFFIC CONSULTANT. IT'S GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS KELSEY LARSON. I'M A TRAFFIC ENGINEER WITH BOLTON AND MANKE. I LED THE TRAFFIC STUDY SO I'M HERE TO GO OVER THE FINDINGS RECOMMENDATIONS AND REALLY JUST SEE HOW THE KEY THINGS FROM OUR ANALYSIS. SO FIRST ON MY SCREEN I HAVE SOME TEXT FROM THE CITY CODE. I'M NOT GOING TO READ IT WORD FOR WORD BUT ULTIMATELY WHAT THE WHAT THIS IS STATING IS THERE IS A NEW INSTITUTIONAL USE OR AN EXPANSION TO AN EXISTING INSTITUTIONAL USE THAT ADDS TRAFFIC ABOVE THRESHOLDS AND I'LL GO THROUGH THERE ARE THREE THRESHOLD THAT IT HAS TO AT LEAST BE OVER ONE OF THE THREE ON MY NEXT SLIDE . BUT IF YOU HAVE TRAFFIC VOLUMES OVER THESE THRESHOLDS THEN IT IS ULTIMATELY UP TO THE CITY COUNCIL TO DETERMINE IF THAT DEVELOPMENT SHOULD BE ALLOWED OR IF THERE IS MITIGATION LEVELS CONSISTENT WITH RESIDENTIAL LIVABILITY AND PEDESTRIAN AND MOTORIST SAFETY TO ALLOW THIS DEVELOPMENT. SO I'LL GET INTO EACH OF THE THRESHOLDS TO TAKE A STEP BACK I DO JUST WANT TO GO OVER BRIEFLY TRAFFIC VOLUMES AND WHAT WE SEE TYPICAL ON DIFFERENT ROADWAY TYPES THROUGHOUT THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON AND REALLY EVERYWHERE SO THIS TABLE SHOWS DIFFERENT ROADWAY TYPES. AGAIN I'M NOT GOING TO READ THIS WORD FOR WORD BUT AT THE TOP OF OUR SCREEN WE HAVE LOCAL STREETS. THOSE ARE OUR LOW VOLUME ROADWAYS SERVING RESIDENTIAL HOMES, LOCAL COLLECTORS THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING LIKE YOU AN AVENUE WHERE WE HAVE RESIDENTIAL HOMES BUT WE ALSO HAVE THAT ROADWAY TO SERVE OTHER USES SUCH AS SCHOOLS, A COMMUNITY CENTER ETC. THE TYPICAL TRAFFIC VOLUME RANGES SHOWN HERE. ONE THING TO CLARIFY WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT VOLUMES PER DAY, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT VOLUMES AND NOT JUST IN ONE DIRECTION OF THE ROAD BUT BOTH DIRECTIONS OF THE ROADWAY JUST TO CLARIFY THAT. SO ON OUR LOCAL STREETS WE SEE ABOUT 300 UP TO 1500 VEHICLES PER DAY LOCAL COLLECTOR STREETS 1000 TO 2000. AND THEN YOU CAN SEE AS WE HAVE COLLECTORS ARTERIAL ROADS THOSE ARE SERVING MUCH HIGHER VOLUMES OF ROADWAY OR MUCH HIGHER VOLUMES OF VEHICLES . I ALSO WANT TO JUST POINT OUT BEFORE I GET INTO THE VOLUMES WHEN WE DO A TRAFFIC STUDY HOW WE DETERMINE WHERE THE TRAFFIC IS GOING TO COME FROM GO TO HOW IS IT GOING TO ACCESS THE SITE. SO SHOWN HERE IS A ZOOMED OUT VIEW OF THE AREA SURROUNDING THE SITE AND WHAT WE DO IS WE LOOK AT THE VOLUMES OF ROADWAYS SURROUNDING THE AREA. SO WHAT'S SHOWN IN BLUE ARE THE PERCENTAGES OF VOLUMES PER ROAD THROUGHOUT THE AREA AND WE USE THE VOLUMES ON THE ROADWAYS TO UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, WHERE IS THAT TRAFFIC THAT'S BEING GENERATED THAT'S GOING TO AND FROM THIS PROPOSED SITE WHERE IS IT COMING FROM? WHERE IS IT GOING TO SO JUST TO HIGHLIGHT, YOU KNOW, OUR TWO MAJOR ROADWAYS NEAR THE SITE INCLUDE WEST 90TH STREET EAST OF THE SITE THAT HAS 24% OF THE VOLUME. WHEN WE LOOK AT ALL OF THE VOLUME IN THE SURROUNDING AREA, ADD IT UP AND UNDERSTAND HOW MUCH EACH ROADWAY CONTRIBUTES. YOU CAN SEE ANOTHER BIG CONTRIBUTOR IS OLD SHAKOPEE ROAD AT 34% TO THE SOUTHWEST OF THE PROJECT AREA AND THEN ALSO SHOWN ON THIS GRAPHIC ARE VOLUMES AND OR PERCENTAGES IN GREEN FOR THE TRAFFIC HOW IT WOULD ENTER THE SITE AND THEN IN ORANGE FOR HOW THAT TRAFFIC WOULD EXIT THE SITE AND REALLY WHEN WE'RE TRYING TO DETERMINE WHERE IS TRAFFIC GOING TO ENTER AND EXIT, WE'RE LOOKING AT THE VOLUMES ON THOSE SURROUNDING ROADWAYS AND THEN WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT THE SITE LAYOUT HOW PEOPLE ARE GOING TO ACCESS THE SITE, HOW ARE THEY GOING TO MOST CONVENIENTLY GET FROM THOSE SURROUNDING ROADWAYS TO THIS SITE AND THEN ALSO ADD DISTANCE AND TRAVEL TIME? YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE GOING TO TAKE THE MOST CONVENIENT ROUTE TO GET TO AND FROM THE SITE. YOU'LL NOTICE THAT ON NEWTON AVENUE SPECIFICALLY WE REALLY ONLY SHOW VEHICLES GOING TO AND FROM THE NORTH AND THAT'S JUST BASED ON AGAIN TRAVEL TIMES I'M SURE VEHICLES MAY CHOOSE YOU KNOW, DRIVERS MAY CHOOSE TO ACCESS THE SITE FROM THE SOUTH. BUT WHEN WE DO A STUDY WE LOOK AT THE MOST CONVENIENT, MOST LOGICAL WAY TO GET TO AND FROM THE SITE. SO GETTING BACK TO THE CITY CODE AND THOSE THREE THRESHOLDS WE LOOKED AT I HAVE A SLIDE FOR EACH OF THOSE THRESHOLDS. THE FIRST CRITERIA THAT IT LOOKS AT IS IF THE PROPOSED SITE WERE TO ADD 300 OR MORE TRIPS PER DAY ON A LOCAL RESIDENTIAL STREET AT LEAST ONCE PER WEEK ON A REGULAR BASIS. SO THE GRAPHIC SHOWN HERE TO THE RIGHT IS A LITTLE BIT MORE ZOOMED IN AND I HAVE SHOWN THREE NUMBERS ON THE SURROUNDING ROADWAYS. SO THE TOP NUMBER BEING THE EXISTING DAILY VOLUME BASED ON TRAFFIC COUNTS THAT WE COLLECTED AS PART OF OUR STUDY AND THEN IN BLUE IS THE NUMBER OF TRIPS THAT WOULD BE ADDED WITH THE WITH THE DEVELOPMENT AND THEN IN GREEN AT THE BOTTOM IS THEN THE NEW TOTAL OF TRIPS ANTICIPATED WITH THE DEVELOPMENT. SO LOOKING SPECIFICALLY AT NEWTON AVENUE SOUTH YOU CAN SEE 600 VEHICLES PER DAY TODAY JUST SOUTH OF WEST 90TH STREET AND THEN THE DEVELOPMENT IS ANTICIPATED TO ADD JUST UNDER A THOUSAND VEHICLES A TRIP VEHICLES PER DAY ALONG THE ROADWAY BRINGING THE TOTAL TO ABOUT 1600. THIS THESE NUMBERS ARE DIFFERENT FROM WHAT WAS SHOWN PREVIOUSLY WITH PLANNING COMMISSION THE SITE LAYOUT WAS MODIFIED MAKING THE ACCESS TO AND FROM PENN AVENUE CLOSER TO THE WEST 98TH AND PENN AVENUE INTERSECTION MEANS PREVIOUSLY THE THE VEHICLES THAT WOULD ACCESS THE SITE UNDER THE PREVIOUS LAYOUT WOULD HAVE TO TRAVEL DOWN TO PENN AT IVY, TURN INTO THE SITE AND THEN KIND OF WRAP AROUND TO GET TO THE PARKING LOT ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE NEW PROPOSED LAYOUT SHOWS THAT ACCESS SHIFTED FURTHER TO THE NORTH BEFORE AS MIKE MENTIONED, THERE WAS ONE ACCESS AT PENN AND IVY AND THEN AN EXIT ONLY THAT LINED UP WITH PENN AT JONES THE LATEST PROPOSED LAYOUT SHOWS ONE ACCESS LOCATED BETWEEN THE TWO AND WITH THAT ACCESS NOW BEING CLOSER TO THE 90TH AND PENN INTERSECTION AND ALSO A MORE CONVENIENT YOU KNOW, DIRECTLY TURNING GOING INTO THE PARKING LOT AND NOT KIND OF WRAPPING AROUND LIKE YOU WERE BEFORE. THAT IS WHY OUR VOLUMES ARE DIFFERENT FROM WHAT WAS PREVIOUSLY SHOWN. BUT SO THE FIRST THRESHOLD IS MET WITH THE ALMOST A THOUSAND VEHICLES A DAY ADDED AND THAT IS OVER THE 300 VOLUMES PER DAY THRESHOLD. AND THEN JUST HAD I HAVE TWO BULLETS ON HERE JUST TO TRY TO YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE VOLUMES FOR AN OVERALL DAY JUST TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF PERSPECTIVE ON WHAT DOES THAT MEAN FOR VEHICLES PER MINUTE THAT YOU WOULD SEE ON NEWTON AVENUE WITH THE 600 VEHICLES PER DAY LOOKING AT THE PEAK HOUR THAT'S REALLY JUST ABOUT ONE VEHICLE PER MINUTE AND THEN UNDER OUR BUILD CONDITION GOES UP TO ABOUT TWO VEHICLES PER MINUTE PASSING THROUGH. ONE OTHER THING I WILL CLARIFY TOO IS THAT THIS VOLUME THAT'S BEING ADDED IS REALLY MOST AFFECTING FOR THE FIRST FOUR HOMES OFF OF NEWTON AVENUE SOUTH JUST SOUTH OF WEST 98TH STREET, THERE ARE FOUR HOMES BEFORE THE FIRST DRIVEWAY ACCESS ON NEWTON AVENUE SOUTH INTO THE COMMUNITY CENTER AND THEN THERE IS AN ADDITIONAL ACCESS ON NEWTON AVENUE SOUTH TO THE COMMUNITY CENTER THAT'S LOCATED THREE HOMES FURTHER SOUTH. SO THE ASSUMPTION IS, YOU KNOW, AS PEOPLE ARE ACCESSING THE SITE IT'S GOING TO BE MOST CONVENIENT AS THEY'RE DRIVING TO THE SITE TO TURN RIGHT AT THAT FIRST ACCESS AND GO INTO THE PARKING LOT AND THEN UPON EXITING THE ASSUMPTION IS WHEREVER WHICHEVER ACCESS YOU'RE CLOSER TO WHEN YOU'RE LEAVING THE PARKING LOT YOU WOULD CHOOSE TO USE THE MORE NORTHERN OR THE MORE SOUTHERN ACCESS ON NEWTON. SO THERE ARE THE THREE ADDITIONAL HOMES BETWEEN THE TWO ACCESSES ON NEWTON WE WOULD ANTICIPATE ABOUT 400 VEHICLES A DAY ADDED IN FRONT OF THOSE HOMES. THE SECOND THRESHOLD LOOKS AT IF THE PURPOSE WAS USE ADDS 100 OR MORE TRIPS BRINGING THE TOTAL TRIPS ON THE ROADWAY TO BE OVER 1000. THIS THRESHOLD IS ALSO MET AS THIS IS ADDING ALMOST 1000 TRIPS PER DAY ON NEWTON AND BRINGING THAT TOTAL TO BE OVER 8000. AND THEN THE THIRD CRITERIA LOOKS AT THE NUMBER OF TRIPS GENERATED IN THE PEAK HOUR THAT WOULD BE ADDED TO THE RESIDENTIAL STREET. THIS SHOWS THAT WITH THE NEW MODIFIED SITE THAT AMANPOUR'S PEAK HOURS WOULD HAVE UNDER 100 TRIPS ADDED TO NEWTON WITH THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT. SO CRITERIA THREE IS NOT MET BUT YOU JUST NEED TO MEET ONE OF THE THREE. SO THE CITY CALLED THRESHOLDS ARE STILL OVERALL SATISFIED SO SINCE THOSE VOLUME THRESHOLDS ARE SATISFIED MITIGATION IS NEEDED WE RECOMMEND INSTALLING CURB BUMP OUTS ALONG NEWTON AVENUE SOUTH AT BOTH OF THE PROPOSED ACCESSES TO THE COMMUNITY HEALTH AND WELLNESS CENTER SO SHOWN ON THE DIAGRAM TO THE RIGHT OF CIRCLED IN BLUE THE TWO ACCESSES A CURB BUMP OUT REALLY HELPS TO NARROW THE ROADWAY TO PROVIDE TRAFFIC CALMING OR SLOWER SPEEDS ON THE ROADWAY AS THE NARROW THE NARROWER THE SPACE YOU KNOW, THE MORE THE SLOWER VEHICLES WILL DRIVE ON THE LEFT IS ALSO SHOWN AN IMAGE FROM THE FEDERAL HIGHWAY ADMINISTRATION'S WEBSITE ON WHAT A CURB WOULD LOOK LIKE. THE OTHER MITIGATION TO IMPROVE LIVABILITY CONDITIONS ON THE ROADWAY IS THAT WE RECOMMEND ALLOWING PARKING ALONG NEWTON AVENUE SOUTH. CURRENTLY THERE IS NOT PARKING ALLOWED ON EITHER SIDE OF THE ROADWAY. THIS IMAGE SHOWS JUST FROM GOOGLE STREET VIEW LOOKING SOUTH YOU CAN SEE THE NO PARKING SIGN WE WOULD RECOMMEND ALLOWING PARKING JUST ON THE WEST SIDE SO JUST ON THE SIDE THAT IS ADJACENT TO THE COMMUNITY HEALTH AND WELLNESS CENTER AND PARKING COULD EITHER BE ALLOWED AT ALL TIMES OR ONLY WHEN THE COMMUNITY HEALTH AND WELLNESS CENTER IS OPEN. IF IT'S OPEN ALL THE TIME WE WOULD ANTICIPATE EIGHT PEOPLE TO BE PARKED AT VARIOUS TIMES OF THE DAY AND YOU WOULD THEN HAVE THAT AGAIN A TRAFFIC CALMING BENEFIT THROUGHOUT THE DAY OR IF IT WAS ONLY ALLOWED WHEN THE COMMUNITY HEALTH AND WELLNESS CENTER WAS OPEN THEN WE WOULD ONLY GET THAT TRAFFIC CALMING BENEFIT DURING THE HOURS THAT THE CENTER IS OPEN . I ALSO WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT A FEW JUST OF OUR KEY FINDINGS FROM THE TRAFFIC STUDY SO WE DID A TRAFFIC ANALYSIS LOOKING AT THE AM AND THE PM PEAK HOURS SO THE HOURS GENERATING THE MOST TRAFFIC THROUGHOUT THE DAY LOOKING AT OPERATIONS FOR THE INTERSECTIONS SURROUNDING THE EXISTING SITE AND THEN ALSO WITH THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT AND WE FOUND THAT TRAFFIC OPERATIONS ARE ACCEPTABLE TODAY AND REALLY REMAIN ACCEPTABLE. WE'RE NOT SEEING ANY CONCERNING DELAY OR QUEUING COMING TO AND FROM THE SITE OR AT THOSE INTERSECTIONS ADJACENT. WE ALSO WITH THE LATEST MODIFIED SITE AND ADDENDUM THAT WAS COMPLETED AS A PART OF THIS TRAFFIC STUDY WE CONSIDERED THE CONVERSION OF PENN AVENUE FROM A FOUR LANE UNDIVIDED ROADWAY TWO LANES EACH DIRECTION TO A THREE LANE ROADWAY WHICH WOULD HAVE ONE LANE EACH DIRECTION AND A CENTER TURN LANE. THIS WAS AT THE REQUEST OF HENNEPIN COUNTY. THEY ARE CONSIDER GREEN CONVERTING PENN AVENUE FROM THE FOUR LINK TO A THREE LANE IN THE FUTURE AND WANTED TO UNDERSTAND HOW OPERATIONS WOULD WORK WITH THAT CHANGE IN MIND AS WELL SO IT'S SHOWN HERE ON THE SCREEN IS KIND OF ZOOMED IN TO THE WEST 90TH AND PENN AVENUE INTERSECTION AND I'M SHOWING THE PEAK HOUR QUEUES SO ON THE LEFT SIDE WE HAVE THE EXISTING FOUR LANE CONDITION. THE AVERAGE QUEUE IS SHOWN IN PURPLE AND THE MAXIMUM QUEUE DURING THE PEAK HOUR IS SHOWN IN GREEN. YOU CAN SEE HOW WITH THE EXISTING FOUR LANE ROADWAY THE TRAFFIC QUEUES ALONG THE NORTHBOUND APPROACH AT THAT SIGNALIZED INTERSECTION OF WEST 98TH AND PENN AVENUE THE QUEUES WOULD BE CONTAINED WITHIN THE DISTANCE BETWEEN WEST 98TH AND JONES PLACE AND THEN YOU CAN ALSO SEE ON THE RIGHT WE MODELED THE THREE LANE SECTION AS WELL AND YOU CAN SEE HOW WITH A THREE LANE SECTION WE DO SEE THAT THE AVERAGE QUEUE IS MAINTAINED OR CONTAINED WITHIN THAT DISTANCE BETWEEN WEST 90TH AND JONES PLACE BUT THE MAXIMUM QUEUE DOES EXTEND INTO AND JUST BEYOND THE INTERSECTION OF JONES PLACE HOWEVER THE MAXIMUM QUEUE IS SOMETHING THAT REALLY ONLY HAPPENS ONCE MAYBE TWICE DURING THE PEAK HOUR. YOU KNOW THE AVERAGE QUEUE IS SHOWING THAT CONDITION THAT WE SEE THE MAJORITY OF THE TIME AND REALLY THIS IS JUST THE PEAK HOUR. SO THROUGHOUT MOST OF THE DAY QUEUING IS EXPECTED TO BE CONTAINED WITHIN THAT DISTANCE . ONE OTHER THING TO NOTE IS THAT WE DID NOT MAKE ANY CHANGES TO THE EXISTING SIGNAL TIMING THAT IS IN PLACE TODAY . SO YOU KNOW, IF HENNEPIN COUNTY WERE TO RECONSTRUCT THE ROAD AND IF THEY WERE TO THEN RE OPTIMIZE THE SIGNAL TIMING AT WEST 90TH AND PENN AVENUE WE CAN EXPECT THE QUEUING TO BE SHORTER YOU KNOW MORE MANAGEABLE THAN WHAT IS SHOWN HERE. SO WE'RE KIND OF SHOWING THE WORST CASE SCENARIO IF THEY DID NOT RESTRICT RE SIGNALS RE OPTIMIZE THE TIMING FOR THE SIGNAL. AS MIKE MENTIONED WE ALSO AS A PART OF OUR TRAFFIC STUDY DID DO A PARKING ANALYSIS AND I SEE HERE I HAVE THE NUMBER WRONG HE HAD SHOWN 322 AND I'M SHOWING 321 STALLS BUT REGARDLESS OUR ANALYSIS DID SHOW AS HE HAD MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, THE CITY CODE BASED ON THE BUILDING SIZE I WOULD REMMEND 467 PARKING STALLS FOR THIS USE. WE STUDIED THE EAGAN COMMUNITY COMMUNITY CENTER AND THE BROOKLYN CENTER COMMUNITY CENTER GETTING ACTUAL PARKING DATA DURING PEAK TIMES AND THEN COMPARING THE SIZE OF THOSE FACILITIES TO THE ONE PROPOSED HERE TO UNDERSTAND HOW MUCH PARKING IS NEEDED AT A COMMUNITY CENTER PER SQUARE FOOT. AND YOU CAN SEE THEN BASED ON THOSE SIMILAR SITES THE RECOMMENDED PARKING FOR THIS SITE WAS VERY SIMILAR BETWEEN THE TWO AT 239 OR 237 STALLS. AND THEN WE ALSO LOOKED AT THE INSTITUTE OF TRANSPORTATION ENGINEERS PARKING GENERATION MANUAL WHICH LOOKS AT SITES NATIONWIDE FOR A SIMILAR USE AND THAT SHOWS A RECOMMENDED 200 STALLS THEREFORE THAT WE FIND THAT THE 322 PARKING STALLS ARE SUFFICIENT FOR THIS SITE. WE ALSO DID A SAFETY ANALYSIS AS A PART OF OUR STUDY WE FOUND NO SAFETY CONCERNS WITH THE PROPOSED REDEVELOPMENT ALL THE INTERSECTIONS IN THE PROJECT AREA TODAY OPERATE WITHIN THE NORMAL RANGE SO THERE'S NO EVIDENCE THAT ADDITIONAL TRIPS FROM THE PROPOSED REDEVELOPMENT WOULD CREATE OR CONTRIBUTE TO A SAFETY ISSUE. AND THEN I HAVE TWO SLIDES JUST TO GO OVER TWO RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE DID HAVE AS A PART OF THE STUDY. ONE BEING WE RECOMMEND INSTALLING STOP SIGNS ALONG EACH OF THE PROPOSED ACCESSES TO THE SITE SO THE TWO PROPOSED ACCESSES ALONG NEWTON AVENUE SOUTH AND THEN ALSO THE PROPOSED SINGLE PROPOSED ACCESS AT PENN AVENUE SOUTH FOR CONSISTENCY WITH OTHER TRAFFIC CONTROL ON BOTH OF THOSE ROADWAYS TODAY. AND THEN FINALLY WE HAVE A FEW PEDESTRIAN ACCOMMODATIONS RECOMMENDATIONS ONE BEING TO ADD ADA ACCESSIBLE PEDESTRIAN RAMPS AND TRUNCATED DOMES AT THE PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIONS TO AND WITHIN THE PARKING LOT AND THEN ALSO TO ADD A MARKED CROSSWALK FROM THE PARKING LOT TO THE MAIN BUILDING TO CREATE A VERY CLEAR PATH FOR PEDESTRIANS AND I WILL PASS IT OFF TO KURT. EVENING, MR. ROBERTS. MR. MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS JUST WANTED TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT NEIGHBORHOOD TRAFFIC IN CONTEXT IN THE CITY AND RUN YOU THROUGH A FEW THINGS AS THEY APPLY TO THIS COMMUNITY CENTER. THE THREE THINGS THAT WE GENERALLY LOOK AT ARE MAGNITUDE. THAT'S HOW MUCH AND THAT WAS PRESENTED IN THE TRAFFIC STUDY. THE NEXT THING IS CONTEXT. WHAT KIND OF TRAFFIC IS THAT YOU'RE ALL PROBABLY FAMILIAR WITH STANLEY AVENUE WHERE WE HAVE A SIGNIFICANT COMMUTER TRAFFIC PROBLEM THROUGH A NEIGHBORHOOD BUT WHAT KIND OF TRAFFIC IS HAPPENING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE THAT CAN CHANGE HOW RESIDENTS TEND TO REACT TO THAT. THE AND THEN THE LAST ONE IS THE EXTENT HOW FAR INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD DOES THAT TRAFFIC GO AND WHERE IS IT GENERATED FROM? IT'S THE CONTEXT WHERE THE COUNCIL'S GOING TO HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, USE THE MOST JUDGMENT THE NUMBERS FOR MAGNITUDE AND EXTENT ARE FAIRLY EASY TO APPLY BUT IT'S THAT CONTEXT OF THE TRAFFIC THAT YOU'LL BE LOOK TO TO TO MAKE A DECISION ON THIS. SO A COUPLE EXAMPLES FROM THE CITY . THE FIRST UP IS PENN AVENUE. SO SOMETIMES THE TRAFFIC VOLUMES ARE JUST GENERATED BY THE WAY THAT THE ROAD LAYOUT FALLS. THIS IS PENN AVENUE SOUTH OF 106TH STREET TO THE SOUTH OF THERE YOU'VE GOT 108 ST HUNDRED AND 10TH STREET AND THEN A GIANT BEAUTIFUL RIVER VALLEY. IT'S ALL RESIDENTIAL IN THAT AREA. TRAFFIC TENDS TO FUNNEL ON THE NORTH SOUTH ROADWAYS AND SO PENN AVENUE AT 160 WE SEE THE VOLUMES AT ABOUT 1300 TO 2000 CARS A DAY A DAY THAT'S FAIRLY TYPICAL FOR A LOT OF THESE NORTH SOUTH RESIDENTIAL ROADS IN THIS AREA. AND SO THAT THAT MAGNITUDE IS THERE. IT'S EASY TO SEE. THE CONTEXT IS IT'S JUST RESIDENTIAL TRAFFIC FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND IT SORT OF COLLECTS LINEARLY AS YOU MOVE TO THE NORTH THERE I CAN'T REPRESENT HOW THE NEIGHBORS FEEL ABOUT THAT TRAFFIC THAT LIVED THERE. I'M SURE IF YOU TALKED TO HIM THEY'D GIVE YOU ALL SORTS OF OPINIONS ON IT. BUT WHAT I CAN TELL YOU IS THAT IN THIS CONTEXT WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED CALLS OR REQUESTS FOR TRAFFIC CALMING OR TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT. WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED CALLS FOR RELIEF FROM THIS NEIGHBORHOOD 88 STREET. THIS IS THE FORMER SITE OF THE LINCOLN HIGH SCHOOL. THE LAND USE ALONG THERE IS A MIX OF RESIDENTIAL AND THEN WE'VE GOT THE EDUCATION SITES THERE WHERE THEY OFFER A LOT OF PROGRAMS AND SERVICES. WE'VE GOT SOME RECREATION THERE AND AS YOU CAN SEE MOVING FROM WEST TO EAST THE TRAFFIC GOES FROM ABOUT 1100 CARS A DAY AT XERXES INCREASE AS IS YOU PICK UP THE SCHOOL, USE THE LIBRARY AND GETS TO A MAGNITUDE OF ABOUT 2400 CARS A DAY APPROACHING PENN AVENUE. A COUPLE OF THINGS HERE NEIGHBORHOOD PARKS PLAY FIELDS, EVEN LARGER REGIONAL PARKS AND PLAY FIELDS GENERALLY DON'T CREATE A LOT OF THEY MIGHT HAVE EVENTS THAT CREATE SOME ISSUES BUT ON AN ONGOING BASIS THAT THAT KIND OF TRAFFIC JUST GENERALLY IS KIND OF ACCEPTED AS PART OF THE FABRIC OF THE LIFE OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. IT DOESN'T CREATE A LOT OF ISSUES. THE SAME WITH EDUCATIONAL ESTABLISHMENTS THINGS LIKE LIBRARIES AND THOSE TYPES OF USES. IT'S GENERALLY THEY JUST DON'T CREATE THE ISSUES. NOW I'M SURE AGAIN IF YOU TALK TO THOSE NEIGHBORS THEY'LL HAVE OPINIONS ON TRAFFIC. IT'S A BIT LIKE TEXAS. THERE'S THERE'S NO RIGHT NUMBER HERE THAT WE'RE EVER GOING TO GET TO BUT IT'S NOT MY I'M WHAT I CAN SAY IS THAT AGAIN WE HAVEN'T RECEIVED CALLS FOR TRAFFIC CALMING OR RELIEF FROM THIS NEIGHBORHOOD AT THOSE VOLUMES GIVEN THE CONTEXT OF TRAFFIC. SO WE LOOK AT THE MAGNITUDE IT'S THERE. IT'S DEEPER INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD BUT THE CONTEXT SEEMS TO BE THE ISSUE THAT JUST DOESN'T UPSET PEOPLE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD . LAST STOP OVER ON THE EAST SIDE, THE CITY AND THE INDIAN MOUNTS NEIGHBORHOOD. THERE'S A LONGTIME ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY. THIS LIVING FACILITY HAS EXPANDED OVER TIME AND THE TRAFFIC WAS COMMENSURATE WITH THAT. AND SOME INTERESTING NUMBERS HERE AS IF YOU START OUT NEAR THE ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY ON THE RIVER BLUFFS THERE YOU SEE THE LOCAL TRAFFIC'S ABOUT 140. IT JUMPS TO A 180 AFTER THEIR DRIVEWAY AND TRAFFIC FROM THE SCHOOL YEAR AT 1900 CARS A DAY AND THEN 2320 400 CARS A DAY APPROACHING ALL SHOCK. AP SO THAT'S THE MAGNITUDE THEY APPROACH THE CITY WITH INTENT TO EXPAND THEIR FACILITY. WE DID A TRAFFIC STUDY JUST LIKE WE DID HERE AND YEAH, THE MAGNITUDES JUMP AND WHEN THIS WENT TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR REVIEW THE NEIGHBORS TURNED OUT THEY EXPRESSED CONCERNS WITH TRAFFIC THE LONGSTANDING ISSUES THE CONTEXT WAS WAS UNUSUAL AND IT WAS FRUSTRATING FOR THEM. YOU HAVE A LOT OF EMPLOYEES COMING EVERY SHIFT CHANGE THAT WAS HAPPENING THE AMBULANCES, THE MAINTENANCE VEHICLES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO LOOKING AT MAGNITUDE, IT'S THEY'RE LOOKING AT THE EXTENT IT'S WELL INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHICH IS ANOTHER THING THAT SEEMS TO FRUSTRATE A LOT OF PEOPLE. IT'S FELT THAT THOSE PEOPLE HAVE NO INTEREST IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD MAYBE THEY'RE NOT ALWAYS AS PRUDENT WITH THEIR SPEED OR OBSERVANT OF THE TRAFFIC CONTROL IN THE AREA AND THAT REALLY UPSET A LOT OF RESIDENTS AND THE IDEA OF EXPANDING WAS WAS JUST INTOLERABLE. THIS HAPPENED IN 2011 WHEN THIS APPLICATION CAME FORWARD TO THE CITY COUNCIL. THIS WAS DENIED AND ONE SIGNIFICANT OUTCOME IS THE CODE LANGUAGE THAT KELSEY REVIEWED EARLIER LEADING TO THOSE THREE CRITERIA. SO YOU HAD MAGNITUDE YOU HAD EXTENT AS WELL INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND YOU HAD A CONTEXT THAT WAS JUST NOTHING TO DO WITH THE FABRIC OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD . AND SO NOW IT COMES TO THE APPLICATION HERE LOOKING AT THAT AND CONSIDERING THE SAME CRITERIA NEW AVENUE PRIMARILY YOU'VE GOT THE MAGNITUDE THERE 1500 1600 TRIPS A DAY THE EXTENT IT'S ABOUT 475FT INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THEN THE CONTEXT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE COUNCIL HAS TO DECIDE IS THE CONTACT CONTEXT OF TRAFFIC IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD COMPATIBLE? IS IT MORE LIKE A LIBRARY OR A FACILITY LIKE THAT? IS THIS PUBLIC FACILITY CONSISTENT WITH LIFE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD? AND SO IN STAFF'S OPINION, YOU KNOW, THE THE MAGNITUDE IS THERE. IT'S IT STRIPS THE EXTENT 475FT THAT'S NOT VERY FAR INTO THIS NEIGHBORHOOD AND THEN THE CONTEXT IS IS SIMILAR TO PARKS AND OTHER PUBLIC FACILITIES AND THAT'S SOMETHING THE COUNCIL WILL HAVE TO DECIDE. A COUPLE OTHER THINGS I WANTED TO TOUCH ON TRANSIT THIS IS INCREASINGLY IMPORTANT AND ESPECIALLY FOR A FACILITY LIKE THIS METRO TRANSIT RECENTLY REVISED THE ROUTES. THIS SITE IS SERVED BY TWO TRANSIT ROUTES. THANKFULLY AS OF AUGUST EIGHT THERE IS INCREASING FREQUENCY. I JUST NOTICED FROM MY DIAGRAM MY STAR MOVED. WE ARE NOT MOVING THE COMMUNITY CENTER IT WILL STAY ON THE EAST SIDE OF PENN AVENUE. THAT WAS A LATE NIGHT WITH THE FRUSTRATING GRAPHICS PROGRAM BUT THIS SITE IS SERVED BY ROUTE 539 ALONG 98 STREET. THIS IS THE PRIMARY ROUTE THAT SERVES THE BULK OF THE TRIPS ALONG HERE. THE OTHER ROUTE SERVING THE SITE HAS BEEN REVISED. THIS IS ROUTE 546. IT COMES UP PENN AVENUE MAKES A RIGHT NOW I WON'T GO DOWN PENN AVENUE TO 94TH. IT MAKES A RIGHT AT 98 STREET AROUND THE PROPOSED COMMUNITY CENTER SO THE SITE IS IS WELL SERVED BY TRANSIT AND THE FREQUENCY IS GOOD AND IMPROVING. THE PROPOSAL INCLUDES A TRANSIT PAD RIGHT NOW AN EXISTING RIDERSHIP. THE SITE DOESN'T MEET THE ELIGIBILITY CRITERIA FOR A SHELTER AUTOMATICALLY AND THE PROPOSAL DOES INCLUDE A PAD WITH CONDUITS SO IT CAN BE INCLUDED IN THE FUTURE AS TRANSIT USE GROWS AFTER THAT YEAR OF OPENING TO INCLUDE BETTER AMENDS FOR RIDERS. AND THEN JUST A COUPLE OF OTHER THINGS IN HEARING FROM THE NEIGHBORS AND LOOKING TO THE CONCERNS OF THE NEIGHBORS AND HOW THOSE HAVE MOVED THROUGH THE PROCESS. AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE HEARD ABOUT AND I WANT TO TOUCH ON THIS IS BECAUSE IT'S IMPORTANT MITIGATION IS THE LANDSCAPING AND THE BURNING BEING PROPOSED THERE TO SORT OF HELP WITH THE LIGHTING AND THE GLARE AND THE NOISE THAT PEOPLE BELIEVE WILL COME FROM THIS. ONE THING THAT'S BEEN CITED IS AN F H W A SET OF POLICY DOCUMENTS AND AND GUIDELINES AND IT'S BEEN THOUGHT THAT THE LANDSCAPING HERE ONE OF THE THINGS ABOUT THIS IS THE WAY ON FREEWAYS AND INTERSTATES THEY LIKE LANDSCAPING IT'S A GOOD THING BUT IT ALONE IS NOT ENOUGH TO MITIGATE NOISE AND THE REASON IS EARLY STUDIES SHOWED THAT THE FREQUENCIES OF CAR NOISE ON HIGHWAYS, LANDSCAPING IS LESS EFFECTIVE THAN JUST THE SOUND WALLS. THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS PROJECT CARS TRAVELING AT 65 MILES AN HOUR AND 160,000 OF THEM A DAY IS AN INCOMPLETE LEE DIFFERENT FRAMEWORK FOR NOISE MITIGATION THE F H W HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH LOCAL ROADS LIKE THIS. THE MITIGATION BEING PROPOSED DOES HELP WITH NOISE. IT CREATES A VISUAL BARRIER AND IT IS BELIEVED TO BE AN EFFECTIVE MITIGATION. THAT'S THE CRITERIA THAT THE COUNCIL IS LOOKING TO THE F H A POLICIES HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS PROJECT. OTHER THINGS WE HEARD ABOUT IS A NEED TO WIDEN NEWTON AVENUE AND THE TROUBLE WITH THAT IS WIDENING A STREET ENCOURAGES SPEED. THE STREET IS PLENTY WIDE ENOUGH. THERE'S NO CAPACITY ISSUES OR A REASON TO WIDEN IT. THERE'S BEEN SUGGESTIONS THAT CLOSE THE NORTH END OF NEWTON AT 98TH STREET OR ADD SPEED TABLES THOSE ARE REALLY CONTENTIOUS TRAFFIC CONTROL THINGS GETTING AGREEMENT ON SOMETHING LIKE THAT IS A WHOLE NOTHER PROCESS SPEED TABLES EVERYONE LOVES THEM FOR EVERYONE ELSE AND NO ONE WANTS THEM IN FRONT OF THEIR HOUSE. AND SO TO THINK THAT WE'RE GOING TO MOVE INTO THIS NEIGHBORHOOD AND GET CONSENSUS ON SOME TRAFFIC CALMING MITIGATION IS UNREALISTIC AND ALSO WE DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM TO SOLVE AS OF YET. SO I'M NOT RECOMMENDING ANY OF THOSE GO FORWARD. THE CURB BULBS THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED DO CREATE THAT NARROWING EFFECT. THEY DO HAVE A STUDIED AND DOCUMENTED LOWERING OF SPEEDS AND WILL IMPROVE SAFETY. THE MITIGATION AND THE LANDSCAPING IN THE BIRMINGHAM'S PROVIDE IT'S GOOD MITIGATION FOR THE CHANGES IN THE SITE AND THAT'S WHAT I HAVE ON TRAFFIC. SO I THINK MICHAEL CLOSE OUT THE PLANNING END OF THIS AND SO WE ARE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE COMMITTEE HEALTH AND WELLNESS CENTER. I DO HAVE A NUMBER OF MOTIONS FOR YOU THREE ON THE SCREEN. THE FIRST IS FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT, THE SECOND IS FOR THE ORDINANCE TO REZONE. SO AGAIN ALL THE REZONING IS CONSISTENT AND THEN THIRD WOULD BE FOR THE PRELIMINARY FINAL DEVELOPER PLANS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE PRESENTATION COUNCIL QUESTIONS ON THIS BEFORE WE OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND THEN WE CAN GET INTO OUR DISCUSSION. BUT THESE ARE QUESTIONS. COUNCILMEMBER LOGAN YEAH, I DID HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS . I WANTED TO HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF THE IDEA AND THE CONCEPT IN THE ORDINANCE WITH THIS IDEA OF TRAFFIC MITIGATION MEASURES BECAUSE I JUST WANTED TO HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING IN TERMS OF BECAUSE THEY WANT TO KNOW IS THERE A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN TRAFFIC CALMING AND TRAFFIC MITIGATION? YOU KNOW IN TERMS OF TRAFFIC MITIGATION FROM A VOLUME PERSPECTIVE? SURE. IN TERMS OF WHAT OUR ORDINANCE CALLS FOR, IS IT IS IT FOR THE THE OR THE THE FORMER THE VOLUME PIECE OF IT OR IS IT ON THE CALMING ASPECT OF IT? I UNDERSTAND BECAUSE MY MOM AND I COULD TAKE A STAB AT IT. I DON'T KNOW IF KIRK IF YOU THINK HE'D BE AN ISSUE AS A GOOD CUSTOMER. KELSEY THANK YOU. AND I CAN MAYBE I'LL JUST GO BACK TO EXACTLY WHAT THE CODE SAYS SO THE CODE DOESN'T NECESSARILY MENTION TRAFFIC CALMING BUT IT TALKS ABOUT HAVING MITIGATION MEASURES IN PLACE TO IMPROVE RESIDENTIAL LIVABILITY AND PEDESTRIAN AND MOTORIST SAFETY SO AS A WAY TO IMPROVE LIVABILITY AND SAFETY, REDUCING SPEED WOULD HELP TO IMPROVE THAT. SO THAT'S THAT'S SORT OF THE CAN HELP SO AND SO THAT'S THE THE MITIGATION THAT'S BEING SUGGESTED BY THE THE BUMP OUT. YOU KNOW CERTAINLY AS A TRAFFIC TRANSPORTATION PLANNER FORMER CAREER I GET THAT SO OKAY AND THEN YOU SAID THAT THE THE HOMES THAT WOULD BE IMPACTED ARE THE FIRST FOUR HOMES THAT'S THERE FOR THE FOR THE FULL VOLUME OF THE FIRST FOUR HOMES. THERE ARE FOUR HOMES BEFORE THE FIRST DRIVEWAY. THERE ARE TWO DRIVEWAYS. I CAN PROBABLY JUST PULL UP THERE ARE TWO DRIVEWAYS INTO THE SITE ON NEWTON SO THERE ARE FOUR HOMES BEFORE THE FIRST DRIVEWAY AND THEN THERE ARE THREE IN BETWEEN THE SECOND OR BETWEEN THE TWO DRIVEWAYS GO SO BETWEEN THE WEST 90TH STREET AND THE FIRST DRIVEWAY WE WOULD ANTICIPATE ABOUT 1000 VEHICLES ADDED PER DAY AND THEN BETWEEN THE TWO DRIVEWAYS ABOUT 400 VEHICLES PER DAY. AND SO THEN THE ONLY MITIGATION STRATEGY JUST SO I'M CLEAR IS JUST THE BUMP OUTS AND ALLOWING PARKING ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE STREET. SO PARKING IS NOT ALLOWED TODAY ON EITHER SIDE OF THE STREET BUT ADDING PARKED VEHICLES ALSO HELPS NARROW THE ROAD AND WOULD BE ALSO A TRAFFIC CALMING MEASURE WE WOULD RECOMMEND AND SO THAT'S THE SOLUTION BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT FINDINGS HERE THAT SEEM TO BE KIND OF IN CONTRADICTION AND SO YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF THAT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S HOW WE'RE GETTING TO THAT OR STAFF'S GETTING TO THE CONCLUSION OF THAT THEY MEET THOSE FINDINGS AROUND THOSE THOSE ITEMS. I GUESS WE WOULD RECOMMEND BOTH MITIGATION MEASURES TO BETTER REDUCE SPEEDS AND PROVIDE A BETTER TRAFFIC CALMING THROUGHOUT THE ROADWAY. SO I THINK I MAY HAVE MORE QUESTIONS AS WE GET TO GET TOWARDS THE END HERE. I JUST WANTED TO JUST MAKE SURE I UNDERSTOOD THAT MITIGATION PART. THANK YOU FOR SHOWING ME THAT THAT THAT PORTION OF IT. SO THANKS FOR CONFIRMING NELSON THANK YOU, MAYOR. JUST TO CONFIRM THE COMPLAN AMENDMENT THAT WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT WOULD BE TO REQUIRE ID FROM HIGH DESERT HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL TO LOW DENSITY ON THE TWO PROPERTIES THAT ARE NOT WERE CREEKSIDE IS CURRENTLY IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S VERY COUNCILMEMBERS THE PROPOSED COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT WOULD DESIGNATE THE HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL PARCELS TO PUBLIC PUBLIC LAND USES OKAY SO LIKE FOR EXAMPLE THE LAND WE'RE ON TODAY IS GUIDED FOR PUBLIC LAND USES AS OUR MOST CITY FACILITIES. OKAY. AND THEN SECOND QUESTION TO COUNCILMEMBER LOEHMANN'S POINT ABOUT MITIGATION. CAN YOU EXPLAIN THE RATIONALE FOR THE PARKING ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE ROAD VERSUS THE EAST SIDE OF THE ROAD? YOU KNOW, KIND OF THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE AND ALLOWING PEOPLE TO PARK THEIR CARS IN FRONT OF THEIR HOUSES VERSUS POTENTIALLY PEOPLE THAT WOULD BE PARKING FOR ACCESS TO THE COMMUNITY HEALTH AND WELLNESS CENTER. >> YEAH, I THINK WE COULD CERTAINLY CONSIDER PARKING ON EITHER SIDE OF THE STREET THE BENEFIT OF HAVING IT ON THE WEST SIDE WOULD BE YOU COULD HAVE MORE PARKING. YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE THE SPACE YOU KNOW FOR DRIVEWAYS THROUGHOUT ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE ROADWAY AND ALSO HAVING IT ON THE WEST SIDE ADJACENT TO THE COMMUNITY HEALTH AND WELLNESS CENTER I THINK THE INTENT IS THAT IT WOULD ALSO BE ABLE TO SERVE LARGE EVENTS FOR THE SITE AND THEREFORE THEN BE CLOSEST TO THE SITE. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND DO WE HAVE BASED ON THE FACT THAT THERE'S A CURRENT BUILDING THERE A HISTORY OR THOUGHTS ON HOW EMERGENCY VEHICLES WOULD ACCESS THE SITE? WOULD THEY COME OFF OF PINE AVENUE? WOULD THEY USE NEWTOWN OR WOULD THEY USE A COMBINATION OF BOTH JUST KIND OF DEPENDING ON THE SITUATION AND COUNCILMEMBERS? THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. I YOU KNOW, GENERALLY SPEAKING WE NEED TO ENSURE THAT THEY HAVE ACCESS TO THE ENTIRE SITE . AND SO ONE OF THE ELEMENTS THAT WE WANT TO SEE WE CALLED AN AUTO TURN ANALYSIS TO ENSURE THAT A FIRE TRUCK CAN MANEUVER THE ENTIRETY OF THE PARKING LOT. THAT'S WHY YOU SEE THE TURNAROUND IN THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF THE SITE INSTEAD OF THE FIRE TRUCK COMMON USE REVERSE BECAUSE THEY'RE QUITE LARGE AND THEN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT CONNECTION IS IN THAT NORTHWEST CORNER OF THE SITE. SO I THINK THE INTENT WOULD BE FOR OF PINE AVENUE AND HAVING TO BE THE PRIMARY ENTRANCE FOR EMERGENCY SERVICES. BUT LIKE I SAID, THEY NEED TO HAVE ACCESS TO THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE SITE A LOT OF QUESTIONS COUNSEL COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO THEN COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS, COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO THANK YOU, SIR. THANKS FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE OVERVIEW. I KNOW WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE TALKING ABOUT TWO COUNCILMEMBER NELSON'S POINT THE REPORTING OF THE OR THE RECONSTITUTING OF THE FINE. SO WE GOT TO DO A LOT OF OTHER STUFF THAT I THINK WAS IMPORTANT. THE MY UNDERSTANDING IS AND FORGIVE ME IF I DIDN'T GET THIS RIGHT THERE WAS A THERE WAS A CHANGE IN THE NUMBERS ONCE THE THE DECISION WAS MADE TO CHANGE THE WAY THAT PENN AVENUE WAS ACCESSIBLE. CORRECT. THAT THOSE DID THOSE NUMBERS GO DOWN OFF OF NEWTON AS A RESULT THAT WE'VE SHIFTED TRAFFIC OVER TO PENN AVENUE? IS THAT RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT. AND CAN YOU TELL CAN YOU TALK ABOUT HOW BY HOW MUCH AND LIKE WHAT THAT DID BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND THAT I WAS PROBABLY A DIRECT RESPONSE TO SOME OF THE DISCUSSIONS WE'VE HAD IN THE PAST. SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE UNDERSTAND WHAT MITIGATION THAT SERVED. YES. SO PREVIOUSLY ON NEWTON AVENUE SOUTH WITH THE PREVIOUS LAYOUT THAT HAD THE TWO ACCESSES ON PENN AND EVERYONE HAVING TO ENTER FURTHER SOUTH ON IVY AND WE ASSUMED MORE TRAFFIC WOULD USE NEWTON AVENUE SOUTH THE PREVIOUSLY THERE WAS ABOUT 1500 VEHICLES ADDED BRINGING THE TOTAL TO ABOUT 2100. SO ABOUT 500 TRIPS WERE SHIFTED FROM NEWTON OVER TO PENN AVENUE SOUTH. OKAY SO 25% OR SO 500 OF 2500 I GUESS OF OF 1500. SO ABOUT A THIRD A THIRD CLICK OKAY I ALL I HAD JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY APPRECIATE IT LET'S MEMBER REVISE YEAH VERY GOOD I LIKE THE EFFICIENCY COUNCILMEMBER THANK YOU AND I JUST WANTED TO CONFIRM AGAIN THERE'S A BIG GREEN SPOT HERE WITH THE TREES. THE REASON WHY WE CAN'T IS BECAUSE IT'S NOT CITY PROPERTY CORRECT? CORRECT. AND I BELIEVE IT'S FOR DRAINAGE COUNCILMEMBERS. CORRECT? IT IS NOT CITY PROPERTY. IT'S OWNED BY PRESBYTERIAN HOMES AND IT'S USED FOR STORMWATER MANAGEMENT. SO THERE'S AN EXISTING POND AND THERE ARE SOME MATURE TREES ALONG THE PERIMETER. COUNCIL ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? IF NOT I THINK IT'S TIME TO GET IN THE PUBLIC HEARING SO WE'RE GOING TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 4.3. THIS IS ON THE BLOOMINGTON COMMUNITY HEALTH AND WELLNESS CENTER AND I SD IT EARLY I'LL JUST REPEAT AGAIN WE'VE GOT THE FIVE MINUTE SHOT CLOCK. BE SURE TO INTRODUCE YOURSELF ANY QUESTIONS YOU ASK. WELL WE'LL ANSWER AT THE END AND AS YOU FINISH UP IF YOU COULD JUST GRAB THE CLIPBOARD AND MAYBE STEP TO THE SIDE AND SIGN IN AND SO THEN OUR NEXT SPEAKER COULD COME UP AND AND SPEAK. SO I WILL OPEN THIS PUBLIC HEING AND INVITE ANYONE IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS WHO WISHES TO SPEAK TO THIS MATTER TO COME FORWARD PLEASE. MY NAME IS BRIAN EMERSON. I'M HERE WITH MY WIFE TULSI. WE ARE TWO OF THE AFFECTED HOMEOWNERS OF NEWTON AVENUE AT THE LAST PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING. ONE OF THE FINDINGS STATES THAT NO ONE IS BEING INJURED WITH THIS PROJECT. I FIND THAT TO BE TO BE AN UNBELIEVABLE AND AN OUTRAGEOUS STATEMENT BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION. I'M IN THE HOME LENDING BUSINESS AND I KNOW HOW PROPERTY VALUES ARE AFFECTED BY LOCATION AND THE AMENITIES AND I SEE APPRAISALS EVERY SINGLE DAY. I HAVE CONSULTED WITH TWO OF RESPECT DATED REAL ESTATE BROKERS WITH EACH WITH MORE THAN 20 YEARS EXPERIENCE BY WELL KNOWN COMPANIES IN MINNESOTA AND IN THE TWIN CITIES BOTH HAVE REPORTED TO ME THAT THIS SEVERE TRAFFIC INCREASE ON NEWTON AVENUE AND THE DESTRUCTION OF THE BASEBALL AND SOCCER FIELDS AND THE OTHER REMAINING GREEN SPACE DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM MY HOUSE WILL RESULT IN A LOSS OF VALUE AND MARKETABILITY OF PROBABLY AT LEAST 10% OR MORE ON DAY ONE. WHO WILL BUY MY HOME WITH A PARKING LOT DIRECTLY OPPOSITE MY HOME AND 2000 2000 CARS A DAY RACING BY THE 600 VEHICLE STATED JUST RECENTLY COMING DOWN NEWTON AVENUE WE DON'T HAVE 600 VEHICLES THAT COME DOWN OUR STREET MAYBE 2 TO 300 A DAY. SO NOT TO MENTION THE TWO YEARS OF CONSTRUCTION THAT WE WILL ENDURE AND THE INCREASE IN MY UTILITY BASE FROM THE BRAND NEW HEAT ISLAND THAT YOU ARE CREATING THAT MEANS THAT I AND MY WIFE WILL BE CONTRIBUTING ABOUT $50,000 OR MORE OF OUR EQUITY IN THE FORM OF AN INDIRECT TAX ON THIS PROJECT. THAT MEANS THAT MY WIFE AND I WILL CONTRIBUTE FAR MORE TO THIS BOONDOGGLE THAN ANYONE ELSE. HOW MUCH WILL YOU COUNCIL MEMBERS BE CONTRIBUTING TO THIS PROJECT? I AM BEING SEVERELY FINANCIALLY INJURED ALONG WITH MY WIFE AND MY LOVELY NEIGHBORS. YOU ARE DESTROYING OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND YOU ARE TAKING AWAY OUR EQUITY ON TOP OF THAT THIS COUNCIL DOESN'T HAVE THE DECENCY TO OFFER TO BUY OUR HOMES STATING THAT THERE ARE NO FUNDS FOR THIS BUT YOU DO HAVE $100 MILLION FOR THIS PROJECT. I KNOW SOME OF YOU HAVE HEARD MY FOLLOWING COMMENTS BUT I WANT THIS TO BE ON THE RECORD. THE ROTARY INTERNATIONAL SERVICE ORGANIZATION HAS A FOUR WAY TEST AND IT'S A SET OF ETHICAL GUIDELINES USED BY ROTARIANS AROUND THE WORLD TO HELP MAKE DECISIONS THAT ARE FAIR AND HONEST AND BENEFICIAL. IT'S DESIGNED TO PROMOTE INTEGRITY, FAIRNESS AND MUTUAL RESPECT IN BOTH PERSONAL AND PROFESSIONAL CONDUCT. IT ASKS FOR QUESTIONS. THE FIRST QUESTION IS IS IT THE TRUTH? WE HAVEN'T BEEN TOLD THE TRUTH. IN FACT WE'VE BEEN KEPT IN THE DARK AND DECEIVED BY ALL THIS PROCESS. NEXT, IS IT FAIR TO ALL CONCERNED? IT'S CERTAINLY NOT FAIR TO ANY OF US ON NEWTON AVENUE. THIRD, WILL IT BUILD GOODWILL AND BETTER FRIENDSHIPS? YOU CERTAINLY ARE NOT BUILDING GOODWILL AND FRIENDSHIPS WITH THIS PLAN. IN FACT, IT'S THE EXACT OPPOSITE. AND FINALLY, WILL IT BE BENEFICIAL TO ALL CONCERNED? WE CERTAINLY ARE NOT BENEFITING AND INSTEAD WE ARE BEING SEVERELY DAMAGED BY THIS PROPOSAL. THE COUNCIL THE COUNCIL'S ENDORSEMENT OF THIS PROJECT CAN'T EVEN MEET ONE OF THE ROTARY GUIDELINES. WHAT A SHAME IT IS THAT WE NEWTON HOMEOWNERS AND THE INNOCENT CHILDREN ON THIS STREET WILL BE THE COLLATERAL DAMAGE AND BECOME YOUR SACRIFICIAL LAMBS SO YOU CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH YOUR UNETHICAL, ILLOGICAL GRANDIOSE AND UNSUITABLE SCHEME. BUT I UNDERSTAND IT'S OBVIOUS TO ME THAT YOU REALLY DON'T CARE WHO YOU HURT. I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE RESIDENTS WHO ARE HERE TONIGHT TO SHOW THEIR OPPOSITION BY STANDING AND SHOWING THEIR SIGNS . THANK YOU. MR. EMMERSON, IF I COULD GET YOU TO SIGN IN, PLEASE. THANK YOU. AHEAD. HELLO. I'M ELIZABETH CAMERON. I LIVE ON NEWTON AVENUE. I CAME HERE TONIGHT TO TALK ABOUT THE TRAFFIC STUDIES. I HAVE CONCERNS THAT THEY'VE BEEN INCONSISTENT. THEY HAVE ADMITTED AN ENTIRE INTERSECTION OLD CHALK APPROACH AND OLD CHALK ABBEY ROAD IN MORGAN AND THEY ARE FAR TOO SUBJECTIVE. I HOPE YOU'VE TAKEN THE TIME TO READ MY PAST TESTIMONIES AT LISTENING SESSIONS AND PUBLIC HEARINGS AND HAVE STUDIED THE REPORTS FOR YOURSELF. SO IT'S HISTORY TIME. THE TRAFFIC STUDY THAT WAS DONE FOR THIS COMMUNITY CENTER COMMUNITY HEALTH AND WELLNESS CENTER WAS COMPLETED BECAUSE OF A CITY ORDINANCE THAT PROTECTS RESIDENTIAL AREAS FROM BEING RUINED BY NEW OR EXPANDING INSTITUTIONS. THIS ORDINANCE WAS WRITTEN AFTER THE CITY WAS SUED BY MARTIN LUTHER MANOR IN 2011. MARTIN LUTHER MANOR WANTED TO EXPAND THEIR FACILITY BUT THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE CITY COUNCIL DENIED THEIR EXPANSION BECAUSE IT VIOLATED THE CITY'S CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT ORDINANCE DUE TO THE POTENTIAL INJURY TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND CONCERNS ABOUT THE PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE. INCREASED TRAFFIC WAS ONE OF THE DRIVING FORCES IN THEIR DECISION. DURING THIS TIME THE CITY PASSED A NEW ORDINANCE. 21 .302.06 INSTITUTIONAL USE STANDARDS. THIS ORDINANCE IS TO PROTECT PROTECT RESIDENTS LIKE ME FROM ESTABLISHMENTS LIKE YOURS FROM DISRUPTING THE NATURE OF MY LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD. THE DECISION WAS UPHELD IN 2015 BY THE MINNESOTA SUPREME COURTS. BLOOMINGTON HAS THE RIGHT TO AND SHOULD PROTECT RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS. THEN THIS NEW INSTITUTION THAT IS PROPOSED TO BE BUILT ON THE CREEKSIDE LOT IS NOT IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE CITY ORDINANCE IN THE MARTIN LUTHER MANOR CASE THE INCREASE IN TRAFFIC WAS ESTIMATED TO BE ANYWHERE FROM 16 TO 26%. AND THE CITY FOUND THAT TO BE INJURIOUS TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD . THERE HAVE BEEN A FEW TRAFFIC STUDIES DONE FOR MY ROAD. THIS ONE TODAY STARTED AT 600 AND GOT UP TO ABOUT 1600. JUST A QUICK CALCULATOR MATH THAT IS 167% INCREASE IN TRAFFIC. >> I AM GENUINELY ASKING YOU IF MARTIN LUTHER MANOR WAS DENIED THE OPPORTUNITY TO EXPAND BECAUSE OF 26% TRAFFIC INCREASE ON THE RESIDENTIAL ROADS. WHY IS 167% ACCEPTABLE FOR THIS PROJECT? IN 2011 CITY STAFF BELIEVE THAT 26 WAS INJURIOUS TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND A NEW ORDINANCE CAME FROM IT. WHAT IS YOUR THRESHOLD IN THE CONTEXT OF KNOWING THIS ORDINANCE AND WHAT IT IS FOR THE TRAFFIC STUDY THAT WAS DONE? MAKES AN EFFORT TO ADD MITIGATION MEASURES BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE PARKING AND TRAFFIC STUDIES, THE MITIGATION MEASURES SUGGEST ONLY TO ADDRESS THE CITY'S PROPERTY. THERE IS NO MITIGATION FOR THE AMOUNT OF CARS ON MY ROAD. THE NOISE IN MY YARD, THE POLLUTION AND CAR LIGHTS IN MY WINDOWS I'M TALKING ABOUT FROM THE ROAD NOT THE PARKING LOT AND THE SAFETY OF PEDESTRIANS PEDESTRIANS AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD WITH INCREASED TRAFFIC ARE NOT ADDRESSED. ALSO IF YOU TAKE THE TIME TO READ THE ORDINANCE YOU WILL SEE THAT MANY REQUIREMENTS OF THE NEW INSTITUTION OR EXPANSION ARE NOT MET AT ALL. AT THE VERY END IT REQUIRES THAT ALL THE CRITERIA MUST BE IMPLEMENTED OR CONSTRUCTED AS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT. I'M SINCERELY ASKING WHY HASN'T THIS BEEN DONE GOOD ON TIME. OKAY. I ALSO WANT TO BRING UP THE CONTEXT OF THIS CHANGE IN TRAFFIC. DURING THE TIME OF THE TRAFFIC STUDY THE TRAFFIC WAS LARGELY IN OUR IN OUR AREA IT WAS THE SAME VEHICLES DAILY. WE WAVED TO FAMILIAR SENIORS GOING TO IN AND OUT OF THE CENTER. WE RECOGNIZE EMPLOYEES CAR AT THE PRESBYTERIAN HOMES AND THERE WERE SOME FAMILIES FRIENDLY FAMILIES AT BALLGAMES SEASONALLY. THAT IS THE CONTEXT OF THE TRAFFIC IN WHICH WE ALL PURCHASED OUR HOMES. THAT IS HOW WE BOUGHT OUR HOMES. THE COMING TRAFFIC WILL BE VERY FEW REGULAR VISITORS. IT WILL BE TRAFFIC THAT YOU'D SEE IN THE CONTEXT OF A YMCA WITH SIMILAR PROGRAMING BRINGING IN PEOPLE FROM ALL OVER THE CITIES. BIG EVENTS WILL MAKE TRAFFIC UNPREDICTED OF ALL AND KEEP THE NEIGHBORHOOD JUST UNSETTLED AND IT WILL ALSO BE TRAFFIC FROM 5:30 A.M. TO 10 P.M. OR LATER SEVEN DAYS A WEEK. THOSE ARE THE HOURS. SO THIS PROJECT WILL ABSOLUTELY BE INJURIOUS TO ME AND MY NEIGHBORS FINANCIALLY. SAFETY, WELL-BEING THEY'RE ALL AFFECTED. I'VE TESTIFIED BEFORE AND I'M SAYING IT AGAIN I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE SAFETY THE HEALTH AND THE WELL-BEING OF MY CHILDREN IF THIS PROJECT GOES THROUGH. THANK YOU FOLKS. I APPRECIATE YOUR SHARING YOUR SUPPORT BUT I'M GOING TO ASK YOU TO NOT CLAP FOR THE REASON THAT IF I ALLOW CLAPPING THEN I'M GOING TO HAVE TO ALLOW BOOING AS WELL AND THAT WOULD NOT BE A GOOD THING FOR ANYBODY. OKAY. SO CAN WE ALL AGREE ON THAT? CAN WE? I APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT BUT LET'S LET'S MAINTAIN THE DECORUM OF THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS. THANK YOU MUCH. GOOD EVENING. WELCOME. HEY. MY NAME IS TRAVIS KIMBROUGH AND I'M A RESIDENT ON NEWTON AVENUE. THAT'S MY WIFE ELIZABETH. WE'RE THE FOURTH HOUSE IN ON THAT STREET. I HAVE WORKED IN BLOOMINGTON FOR THE PAST 13 YEARS AND HAVE LIVED HERE FOR THE PAST FIVE. IN ADDITION TO PROVIDING HEALTH CARE SERVICES AND SUPPORTING LOCAL EVENTS, I VOLUNTEER WITH WHAT LITTLE TIME I HAVE LEFT OVER THE MARTIAL ARTS GYM IN BLOOMINGTON HERE EARLY MORNING CLASS AND HELP COACH A CHILDREN'S CLASS. SO THROUGH BOTH MY WORK AND VOLUNTEER EFFORTS I REMAIN A COMMITTED TO THE WELL-BEING OF OUR COMMUNITY. WHEN I CHOSE TO MOVE MY FAMILY HERE I MADE A SIGNIFICANT FINANCIAL AND PERSONAL INVESTMENT. TRUSTING THAT THE BLOOMINGTON OFFERED QUIET RESIDENTIAL STREETS, ACCESSIBLE PARKS AND GREEN SPAS CAN SIT IN CONSISTENT ENFORCEMENT OF CITY ORDINANCES AND RESPONSIVE LOCAL GOVERNMENT GOVERNANCE. OVER THE PAST YEAR HOWEVER, THESE EXPECTATIONS HAVE STEADILY ERODED AS THE CITY HAS ADVANCED PLANS FOR DEVELOPMENT OF A NEW FACILITY DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM OUR HOME. MY IMMEDIATE CONCERN IS DISRUPTION OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD WILL FACE WITH CONSTRUCTION. HEAVY NOISE, DUST AND CONSTANT EQUIPMENT WILL DISTURB THE PEACE AND DAILY ROUTINES OF OUR FAMILIES. BEYOND THIS TEMPORARY PHASE, THE LONG TERM REALITY IS EVEN MORE TROUBLING. THIS DEVELOPMENT WILL BRING A DRAMATIC INCREASE IN TRAFFIC TRANSFORMING NEWTON AVENUE FROM A QUIET RESIDENTIAL STREET INTO A BUSY ROADWAY. THIS SURGE WILL CREATE ONGOING SAFETY RISK FOR CHILDREN, PEDESTRIANS AND ELEVATE NOISE AND POLLUTION AND PERMANENTLY DIMINISH THE SENSE OF SECURITY AND QUALITY OF LIFE THAT DREW US HERE. AS A PARENT OF A DEAF CHILD ALONG WITH OTHER YOUNG CHILDREN, I'M ESPECIALLY ALARMED. THE SIMPLE PLEASURE OF CHILDHOOD OF CHILDHOOD PLAYING OUTSIDE RIDING BIKES AND WALKING TO NEARBY PARKS ARE THREATENED WHEN A SAFE NEIGHBORHOOD BECOMES A HIGH TRAFFIC CORRIDOR. OVER THE PAST YEAR MY NEIGHBORS AND I HAVE HAVE MADE REPEATED GOOD FAITH EFFORTS TO ENGAGE WITH WITH THE CITY. DESPITE PARTICIPATING IN SURVEYS, LISTENING SESSIONS HEARINGS EMAILS US CALLS OUR CONCERNS HAVE LARGELY BEEN UNANSWERED. THE FIRST TIME STAFF AGREED TO MEET WITH US WAS ON AUGUST 18TH WHICH IS JUST ONE WEEK FROM TODAY. BEFORE THE FINAL VOTE. SO I'M RESPECTFULLY ASKING THAT THE CITY TAKE OUR CONCERNS INTO ACCOUNT AND COLLABORATE WITH US TO FIND WORKABLE SOLUTIONS. IF DEVELOPMENT OF THE CREEKSIDE LOT IS INEVITABLE. WE URGE PROTECTIVE MEASURES RELOCATING PARKING ENTRANCES, PURCHASING OTHER HOMES THAT ARE AFFECTED THE MOST OR INSTALLING FENCING AROUND IN SOUND BARRIERS TO PRESERVE SAFETY, PRIVACY AND QUALITY OF LIFE. THIS NEIGHBORHOOD IS OUR HOME. WE ARE COMMITTED TO BEING CONSTRUCTIVE PARTNERS AND WE HOPE THE CITY WILL SHOW THE SAME COMMITMENT ENSURING GROWTH DOES NOT COME AT THE EXPENSE OF THE FAMILIES WHO ALREADY LIVE THERE. THANK YOU. OTHERS MR. MAYOR COUNCIL JOHN SCHUMACHER I AM NOT A RESIDENT OF THE NEWTON AREA NEIGHBORHOOD BUT I AM CERTAINLY IN SUPPORT OF EVERYTHING THAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT. I HAVE SEVERAL STATEMENTS. I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING WRITTEN DOWN, JUST NOTES. I APPRECIATE ALL THE THINGS THAT THE ENGINEERS DO BUT THE ENGINEERS DO LIVE IN A BUBBLE . THEY DON'T LIVE IN REALITY. THEY LIVE IN WHAT THEY THINK IS GOING TO HAPPEN AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. ONE OF THE POINTS THAT I'M LOOKING AT IS IF THERE'S NOT A TRAFFIC LIGHT AT 98TH AND NEWTON, EVERYONE'S GOING TO GO OUT THERE WHEN IT GETS BACKED UP AT A BUSY TIME THEY'RE ALL GOING TO GO SOUTH DOWN TO MORGAN. AND I'M JUST SEEING THAT TONIGHT AND AGAIN, I AM NOT A NEWTON AVENUE RESIDENT BUT I CAN SEE THAT HAPPENING EVEN THOUGH THEY DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. MY BIGGER CONCERN IS I THINK THIS WHOLE PRIDE YOU KNOW, I'M I'M THOROUGHLY CONVINCED THAT WHEN YOU GUYS TAKE THE VOTE TONIGHT IT'S GOING TO PASS NO MATTER WHAT EVERYBODY SAYS YOU GUYS ARE ALREADY TOO FAR DOWN THIS ROAD TO STOP AND YOU AREN'T YOU'RE DIGGING A HOLE AND YOU FORGOT THE PHRASE WHEN YOU GET WHEN IT GETS ABOVE YOUR HEAD YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO STOP DIGGING. AND I THINK YOU'VE DUG YOUR WHOLE WAY TOO FAR AND YOU PUT YOURSELF INTO THIS SITUATION YOU'VE STARTED DEMOLITION ALREADY ON CREEKSIDE. YOU DON'T HAVE A FINAL PLAN. NOW WE HAVE A PLAN THAT SAYS WE'LL DO THIS AND WE MIGHT ADD A THIRD. JIM. THAT'S ABOUT THE DUMBEST THING I'VE SEEN YET. WHY WOULD YOU WHY WOULDN'T YOU JUST DO IT? IT JUST GETS THAT MUCH MORE EXPENSIVE WHEN YOU GO WELL, LET'S DO THIS AND WE'LL LEAVE IT FOR AN EXPANSION JUST IN CASE WE NEED IT. THE ENGINEERS TALKED ABOUT OTHER COMMUNITY YOU KNOW, THE EAGAN COMMUNITY CENTER AND THE BROOKLYN PARK COMMUNITY CENTER OR BROOKLYN CENTER COMMUNITY CENTER. DO THEY HAVE THE EXACT SAME PROGRAMS? ARE THEY RUNNING THE EXACT SAME THING? THAT DOESN'T MEAN MUCH. IT JUST MEANS THEY GOT A FACILITY. BUT ARE THEY DOING EVERYTHING THAT YOU'RE WANTING TO DO IN THIS FACILITY? SO I DON'T THINK THAT RELATES VERY WELL. GIVES YOU SOME CURSORY DATA BUT IT DOESN'T REALLY APPLY TO WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN HERE. I THINK I THINK THE CITIZENS WERE SOLD A BAIT AND SWITCH BY THE COUNCIL BY THE CITY THAT WE WERE GOING TO GET THIS AND WE'RE GETTING THAT. I WAS NOT IN FAVOR OF THE SALES TAX. I THINK THAT'S A NEW HIDDEN GEM FOR EVERY CITY IN THIS STATE TO START JUST FINDING MORE REVENUE TO DO MORE STUFF WHEN WE PROBABLY ALREADY HAVE ENOUGH REVENUE AND WE JUST WANT TO DO AND BUILD BIGGER THINGS. WE'RE REALLY GOOD AT THE CITY BUILDING BIG THINGS BUT WE'RE NOT REALLY GOOD AT MAINTAINING SOME THINGS IN MY OPINION. WE WERE TOLD WE'RE GOING TO HAVE 136,000 SQUARE FOOT FACILITY. IT'S DOWN 106. WHY? BECAUSE WE'RE PUTTING 5 POUNDS OF SUGAR IN A 1 POUND BAG AND WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE IT WORK BECAUSE WE'RE TOO FAR DOWN TO STOP THE CALMING CURBS. I CAN ALREADY SEE THAT AS BEING A PLOWING ISSUE. HOW MANY TIMES ARE GOING TO REPAIR THOSE THINGS WHEN THEY GO DOWN WHEN THE PLOWS GO WAY UP AND DOWN THERE, WRECK THE WRECK THE CEMENT AND THE COMMON CURBS. IF HENNEPIN COUNTY PUTS IN CHANGES TO THREE LANES AND THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH YOU GUYS THAT ARE THE MOST IDIOTIC THING I'VE HEARD SO FAR TONIGHT. WE TALK ABOUT THERE'S A THERE'S ONLY ONE ROUTE FOR PUBLIC TRANSIT WELL-SERVED. I WOULDN'T CALL THAT WELL-SERVED AND I THINK YOU KNOW, WHEN WE I SAW BROADCASTS ON THE NEWS AND PEOPLE WERE TALKING ABOUT HOW THERE'S PUBLIC TRANSIT ONE ROUTE THAT IS NOT A WELL-SERVED FACILITY . YOU CAN NARROW THE ROAD. YOU CAN LET PEOPLE PARK. BUT DOESN'T THAT CREATE ANOTHER SAFETY ISSUE WHETHER IT'S ONE OF THE YOU KNOW, THE THE THEIR SON THAT'S DEAF THAT LIVES ON NEWTON OR ANYBODY WALKING BETWEEN THOSE CARS COMING ACROSS THAT STREET IS CREATING ANOTHER BLIND SPOT FOR PEOPLE. YOU LOOK YOU'VE LOST GREENSPACE. ALL I EVER HEAR IS WE NEED MORE GREEN SPACE NOW WE'RE LOSING GREENSPACE. AND THE OTHER THING THAT HASN'T REALLY EVER BEEN TALKED ABOUT VERY CLEARLY TO ME ANYWAY IS THE ANNUAL COST THAT WE'RE GOING TO UP AS A AS A AS THE CITY OF RESIDENCE. MY TAXES GO UP ENOUGH ALREADY. YOU GUYS ARE ALREADY TALKING ABOUT AN 18% INCREASE IN PROPERTY TAXES FOR NEXT YEAR WHICH IS ABSOLUTELY RIDICULOUS. I CAN'T EVEN BELIEVE IT COMES OUT OF ANYBODY'S MOUTH IN THIS TIME. I ALREADY WENT UP 11%. YOU WANT ME TO GO UP ANOTHER 18%? HOW MUCH MORE UNAFFORDABLE IT'S GOING TO BE? I'VE SAID AT THE LISTENING SESSIONS THAT THIS IS A HARD CITY TO DO BUSINESS IN FOR BUSINESS OWNERS. IT'S GOING TO BE A HARDER CITY FOR US TO BE ABLE TO MOVE ON TO WHEN WE WANT TO RETIRE AND SELL OUR HOUSE WHEN OUR TAXES ARE UNBELIEVABLY HIGH AND TO TRY TO GET SOMEBODY TO COME IN AND WANT TO HAVE TO TAKE OUR HOUSE OR TO BUY OUR HOUSE WHEN WE WANT TO MOVE ON. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCIL AS WE GET THE NEXT SPEAKER UP HERE WE ARE AT TEN MINUTES TO 9:00. THAT'S OUR OFFICIAL END TIME. I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE EXTEND TO AT LEAST 10:00 THIS EVENING AND IF WE GO BEYOND THAT WE WILL HAVE TO OFFICIALLY SUSPEND THE COUNCIL RULES TO TO GO LATER THAN THAT. BUT WE CAN'T GO WE CAN MAKE AN OFFICIAL EXTENSION UNTIL 10:00. SO I WOULD MAKE THAT MOTION THAT WE EXTEND UNTIL 10:00. MOTION IN A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER REEVES TO EXTEND TIL 10:00. NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES. GOOD EVENING. WELCOME. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME'S DARCY EMERSON AND MY WISH THE MIKE DOWN A LITTLE BIT. FEEL THAT. THANK YOU. MY NAME IS DARCY EMERSON. I LIVE ON NEWTON. I LIVE MORE THAN FOUR HOUSES DOWN BUT RIGHT ACROSS FROM THE GREEN SPACE I KNOW THAT I'M GOING TO BE AFFECTED NEGATIVELY BY MY MY EQUITY IN MY HOME IS GOING TO GO DOWN POSSIBLY 200,000. I'M GOING TO BE ASSESSED MY TAXES. I'LL HAVE A. I'LL WAKE UP IN THE MORNING. I LOOK UP MY RENT. I SEE A PARKING LOT. I MEAN IT'S IT'S GOING TO AFFECT ME IN MORE THAN ONE WAY NEGATIVELY AND I THINK THAT'S VERY UNFAIR. WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS YOU'RE ROBBING ME AND I FEEL THAT IT'S CRIMINAL. SO IT IS INJURIES AND I HAVE I FEEL EXTREMELY UPSET AND THIS IS NOT FAIR WHAT'S GOING ON? WHAT I HAVE FOUND OUT THAT THERE WERE OTHER SITES THAT WERE MORE APPROPRIATE THAT BECAUSE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD DIDN'T WANT IT THERE THEY YOU MOVED IT TO CREEKSIDE WHICH IS IN ACTUALLY INADEQUATE BY BY EVERYTHING THAT I'M HEARING AND EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN PRESENTED I BELIEVE THE TRAFFIC STUDY IS FOR A FLAWED SEVERELY. I LIVE ON NEWTON AND I KNOW HOW MANY CARS GO DOWN THE STREET NOW THERE'S MAYBE 30 AT THE MOST. I MEAN TODAY LESS THAN THAT. I'M HOME ALL DAY. I'M RETIRED AND JUST PICKING UP FROM WHERE HE LEFT OFF. YEAH, I'M RETIRED. I'M NOT GETTING ANY MORE INCOME. I DON'T HAVE A WAY OF MAKING UP THE MONEY THAT I'M GOING TO LOSE ON THE EQUITY OF MY HOME. I'M GOING TO AND I'VE ONLY LIVED THERE FOR MAYBE SEVEN YEARS. MY I HAVE ONE OF THE NEWER HOUSES. I HAVE NEW CONSTRUCTION SO I MEAN I YOU KNOW HOW I'M FEELING. I'M LIKE I SAID, I FEEL LIKE I'M BEING ROBBED AND I'M BEING ROBBED AND ANYBODY THAT VOTES THIS THROUGH TONIGHT I'M GOING TO SAY TO EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOU THAT PUTS THIS THROUGH SHAME ON YOU. SHAME ON YOU. THANK YOU . GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS MIKE URBAN. I GREW UP HERE IN BLOOMINGTON OVER 50 YEARS AGO I SCORED ONE MY FIRST GOALS ON THAT FIELD I WAS JUST GOING FOR A WALK TONIGHT I LIVE ACROSS THE STREET AND I JUST CAN'T BELIEVE WHAT'S GOING ON HERE. I MEAN THIS IS JUST UNREAL. I MEAN YOU'VE GOT THIS MONSTROSITY THAT'S GOING TO BE PUT UP THERE, YOU KNOW? AND IN THE MEANTIME WE'VE GOT A CHURCH AND YOU'RE SAYING ONE THING, OKAY, WE CAN HAVE YOU KNOW, THE CHURCH WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ALL THESE TYPES OF HOMES AND THINGS LIKE THIS AND THEN YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE THIS AND MAKE IT BIGGER. WHY NOT MOVE IT OVER TO WHERE THE CONTROL DATA FIELD USED TO BE? THERE'S GREAT KNOW TRANSIT RIGHT THERE. YOU CAN MOVE IT ALL OUT. YOU KNOW, I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO LOSE A LOT HERE, YOU KNOW, WITH WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE ATMOSPHERE. I MEAN I RIDE MY BIKE THROUGH HERE ALL THE TIME. I DIDN'T SEE ANY BIKE LANES AT ALL WHEN YOU DID THE ENGINEERING THING I'M JUST SAYING THIS IS A TOTAL WASTE. I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO LOSE THE ESTHETIC AND I FEEL VERY SORRY FOR ALL MY NEIGHBORS SO THAT'S ALL I GOT TO SAY. THANK YOU FOR LISTENING. THANK YOU . GOOD EVENING. COUNCIL MY NAME IS REBECCA BALDER AND I'M A 28 YEAR RESIDENT OF BLOOMINGTON. THIS PROPOSAL CONCERNS ME FOR TWO REASONS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN WHAT'S COME BEFORE FOR DUPLICATION AND THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT. I SUBMITTED A AN EXTENSIVE WRITTEN TESTIMONY A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO IF ANYONE'S INTERESTED. I BROUGHT THE TESTIMONY AND PRINTED OUT SOME OF THE RESOURCES IN CASE YOU HAVE FURTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT I'VE BROUGHT. SO I'M JUST GOING TO SUMMARIZE WHAT I'VE SAID. MY FIRST ISSUE IS DUPLICATION BLOOMINGTON ALREADY HAS EXTENSIVE FITNESS FACILITIES. I JUST AS A QUICK GOOGLE SEARCH I WENT THROUGH AND MADE A LIST WE HAVE AT LEAST 16 FITNESS CENTERS WITHIN BLOOMINGTON AND WITHIN A TWO MILE EXTENDED RADIUS. DO WE REALLY NEED TO SPEND $100 MILLION TO CREATE ANOTHER ONE? I DON'T THINK SO. SECOND AND MORE IMPORTANTLY TO ME IS THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT I TEACH ENGLISH AS A SECOND LANGUAGE TO INTERNATIONALS. ONE OF MY CLIENTS, DR. STEPHANIE HERBERT STUDIES AND HAS A COMPANY THAT DOES WATER CYCLE PRESERVATION AND SHE STUDIES THE NEGATIVE IMPACT THAT ADDED STRUCTURES HAVE IN CREATING HEAT ISLANDS. THIS ISN'T THEORY IT'S BACKED BY EPA AND SOME OF THAT RESEARCH IS IN THIS DOCUMENTATION SHE AND HER COLLEAGUES SENT ME SOME MINNESOTA SPECIFIC RESEARCH DEMONSTRATING THAT MEGA RAIN EVENTS AND FLOODING ARE BECOMING MORE FREQUENT AND MORE DESTRUCTIVE OVERWHELMING ROADS, SEWERS AND CITY BUDGETS REPLACING THE GREEN AREAS LIKE THE PARK IN HERE WITH PARKING LOTS WITH CONCRETE ONLY INCREASES THE RISK OF FLOODING AND HEALTH RELATED HAZARDS. BUT AFTER I SUBMITTED MY WRITTEN TESTIMONY ANOTHER SHE BELONGS TO AN INTERNATIONAL CONSORTIUM OF GEO SCIENTISTS AND ENGINEERS AND ONE OF HER COLLEAGUES SENT ME A STUDY BY OUR OWN COUNCIL CALLED KEEPING OUR COOL AND IT TALKS ABOUT SPECIFICALLY THE HEAT ISLANDS IN THE TWIN CITIES SHOWING THE FANNING OUT OF CONCRETE AND HOW IT CREATES HEAT ISLANDS AND CREEKSIDE IS ALREADY BECOMING A HEAT ISLAND AND THAT'S BEFORE YOU ADD ALL THIS CONCRETE. I HAVE COPIES ALSO OF THAT RESEARCH HERE IF YOU WANT IT TO SUMMARIZE WHAT THE MET COUNCIL SAYS IS IMPERVIOUS SURFACES ARE DIRECTLY CORRELATED WITH HIGHER LAND SURFACE TEMPERATURES. ANOTHER ONE OF HER COLLEAGUES THEN SENT ME STUDIES SHOWING THAT GREEN SPACES SIGNIFICANTLY MITIGATE HEAT WAVES AND THOSE HEAT WAVES DISPROPORTIONATELY AFFECT VULNERABLE GROUPS LIKE SENIORS AND LOW INCOME RESIDENTS. THESE ARE THE RESIDENTS THAT ARE MOST AFFECTED BY THE HIGHER TEMPERATURES IN LOSING CREEK SIZE GREEN SPACE AND THEY ARE THE ONES THAT ARE THE LEAST LIKELY TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD OR ACCESS THIS FACILITY . IN THIS RESEARCH YOU CAN SEE THAT CITIES ACROSS THE WORLD FROM DETROIT, MICHIGAN TO MELBOURNE, AUSTRALIA ARE ADDING GREEN SPACE AND TAKING AWAY IMPERVIOUS SURFACES TO FIGHT CLIMATE CHANGE. IF BLOOMINGTON MOVES IN THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION WE ARE GOING TO BECOME A CASE STUDY IN ENVIRONMENTAL DAMAGE AND THIS DAMAGE ISN'T JUST TO NEWTON NEIGHBORHOOD. THIS IS TO THE WHOLE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON. I URGE THE COUNCIL REJECT THE CREEKSIDE SITE PROPOSAL, PRESERVE OUR GREEN SPACES, STRENGTHEN CLIMATE RESILIENCE AND INVEST IN IMPROVING THE FACILITIES THAT WE ALREADY HAVE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU . GOOD EVENING MARION COUNCIL MY NAME IS COLLEEN BLOOM AND I'VE LIVED IN BLOOMINGTON FOR VIRTUALLY MY ENTIRE LIFE TO PROCEED WITH THIS COMMUNITY HEALTH AND WELLNESS CENTER I FEEL IS A BOONDOGGLE ESPECIALLY TO THE TAXPAYERS OF THIS CITY 56.2% THAT'S THE PERCENTAGE OF VOTERS THAT OPPOSE THAT APPROVE THE SALES TAX REFERENDUM FOR THE COMMUNITY CENTER AND THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS CITED AS THE REASON TO CONTINUE PURSUING THIS PROJECT. I DON'T THINK IT'S A GOOD ENOUGH REASON 56% POINT TWO IF THEY HAD BEEN TOLD THE TRUTH ABOUT THIS PROJECT WOULD THEY HAVE APPROVED IT? WOULD THEY HAVE VOTED YES FOR A SALES TAX FOR THE COMMUNITY CENTER THAT IS FIRST SIGNIFICANTLY SMALLER THAN WHAT WAS PRESENTED IN ORDER TO GET THAT YES VOTE ON THE SALES TAX HAS FEWER AMENITIES STORAGE PROGRAMS AND PARKING THEN PROMOTE IT BECAUSE OF THE SCALE NEEDED TO BE REDUCED. IT HAS NO REAL PUBLIC TRANSIT OPTIONS OUTSIDE OF MORNING AND EVENING RUSH HOUR METRO TRANSIT BUSSES SO I DON'T CONSIDER THIS SITE TO HAVE A VERY GOOD TRANSIT RESPONSE. IT'S A STATE PROJECT THAT'S TOO BIG FOR THE SITE AND THAT WAS KNOWN BACK IN 2018 OR 2019. THIS PROJECT ALL BUT ELIMINATES ANY SENIOR PROGRAM PROGRAMING. IT'S A PROJECT THAT WILL REDUCE OUTDOOR GREEN SPACE IN LIEU OF A PAVEMENT FOR A PARKING LOT WHICH BRINGS TO MIND A 1971 JONI MITCHELL SONG . THIS IS A PROJECT THAT FORCES A LARGE MAJORITY OF TRAFFIC THROUGH THE QUIET NEWTON NEIGHBORHOOD AS HENNEPIN COUNTY REJECTED A REQUEST TO HAVE ADDITIONAL ENTRANCES TO THE SITE CONSTRUCTED ONE SITE OFF OF ONE ENTRANCE OR EXIT OFF OF PENN AVENUE DOESN'T REALLY MITIGATE MUCH TRAFFIC. THIS IS A PROJECT THAT WILL NEGATIVELY IMPACT THE QUALITY OF LIFE SAFETY AND PROPERTY VALUES OF THE RESIDENTS IN THE NEWTON MORGAN PRESBYTERIAN HOMES AREA DUE TO THE TRAFFIC NOISE INCREASED HEAT ISLAND EFFECT AMONG OTHER THINGS TRAFFIC MITIGATION TALKING ABOUT TRAFFIC BUMP OUTS WHAT'S THAT GOING TO DO WITH AMBULANCES THAT NEED TO GET DOWN TO PRESBYTERIAN HOMES? WANT TO ADDRESS WHAT WE'VE GOT THE ROUNDABOUT CIRCLE OR WHATEVER FOR EMERGENCY VEHICLES TO ACCESS A CENTER. BUT WHAT ABOUT PRESBYTERIAN HOMES? SOME OF THOSE HOMES HAVE MAIN ENTRANCES OFF OF NEWTON BUT EQUALLY MORE IMPORTANT MOST IMPORTANT ABOUT THIS WHOLE PROJECT IS THEINANCIAL ASPECT. IT IS EXPECTED TO RUN DEFICITS WELL INTO THE FUTURE FOR THE FIRST FIVE YEARS ALONE. THIS PROJECT IS PROJECTED TO RUN DEFICITS BETWEEN 567,000 AND 745,000 PER YEAR WITH A FIVE YEAR TOTAL COMING IN IN EXCESS OF 3.461 MILLION. HOW IS THAT FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE? RESIDENTS OF BLOOMINGTON ARE ALREADY BEING BLED DRY. PROPERTY TAXES FOR THE PAST FEW YEARS HAVE BEEN WAY TOO HIGH AND THE FORECAST IS FOR THE PROPERTY TAXES IS PROJECTED TO INCREASE BY ANOTHER 18% THIS YEAR. SO JUST WHO WILL BE PAYING TO COVER THE COST OF THE DEFICIT EXPENSES OF THE COMMUNITY HEALTH AND WELLNESS CENTER IT'S GOING TO BE THE TAX PAYERS MEMBERSHIPS FOR LOWER INCOME RESIDENTS MAY BE SUPERVISED OR SUBSIDIZED AGAIN WHO WILL THIS BURDEN FALL ON? WHO WILL BE SUBSIDIZING THESE MEMBERSHIPS? THE BOTTOM LINE IT'S TAXPAYER AGAIN. SO WHEN AND WHERE WILL FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY COME INTO PLAY ? IT'S TIME FOR GOVERNMENT TO LEARN WHAT IS A WANT AND WHAT IS A NEED, WHAT PROJECTS ARE THE PURVIEW OF GOVERNMENT AND WHICH SHOULD BE TAKEN CARE OF BY THE PRIVATE SECTOR. 56.2% MIGHT WANT A COMMUNITY NTER BUT SURVEYS TAKEN IN THE PAST SHOW A COMMUNITY CENTER IS NOT A NEED. OR IS IT EVEN REALLY A WANT. IN 2019 98% OF THE RESPONDENTS STATED THE CURRENT MIX OF RESIDENTS RECREATIONAL OR SPORTS FACILITIES FIT THEIR NEEDS. THE ONLY THING THAT HAS CHANGED SINCE THEN ESPECIALLY UNDER THE FORMER MANAGER IN ORDER TO SWAY PUBLIC OPINION, THE CITY IS PROMOTING THEIR VIEW THAT BLOOMINGTON IS SOMEHOW LACKING LACKING WITHOUT HAVING A COMMUNITY CENTER THE PERCEIVED NEED IS LESS ABOUT WHAT THE CITY REALLY NEEDS AND MORE OF JUST ANOTHER FEATHER IN THE HAT TO OTHER GOVERNMENTAL OFFICIALS TO SAY HEY LOOK WHAT WE HAVE. DO WE NEED THIS COMMUNITY CENTER? NO, IT NEVER HAS A TAXPAYER FUNDED LIFETIME FITNESS IS NOT A PRUDENT NOR RESPONSIBLE USE OF TAXPAYER FUNDS. WHAT BLOOMINGTON DOES NEED IS RESPONSIBLE MAINTENANCE OF THE FACILITIES WE ALREADY HAVE. MAINTENANCE AND MAINTENANCE IS ALSO NOT BUDGETING $150,000 FOR A BRYANT PARK SCULPTURE. THAT'S ANOTHER WANT. BLOOMINGTON NEEDS TO PROVIDE OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE PRIVATE SECTOR TO FILL WANTS WITH MINIMAL CITY REGULATION. AND FINALLY THE CITY NEEDS TO KEEP THEIR HANDS OUT OF THE WALLETS OF THE BLOOMINGTON TAXPAYER AS MANY ESPECIALLY SENIORS FEAR THEY ARE BEING TAXED RIGHT OUT OF THEIR HOMES AND MY DAD IS ONE OF THEM. WE TAXPAYERS DO NOT HAVE MONEY GROWING ON TREES SO WHEN WE START RUNNING SHORT OF MONEY WE CAN'T GO TO GRANDMA AND GRANDPA OR THE CITY OR WHATEVER TO GET MONEY TO PAY FOR OUR PET PROJECTS. IT IS MORE THAN TIME TO REASSESS THE ACTUAL NEEDS. THE CITY'S ROLE IN PROVIDING SOLUTIONS ESPECIALLY THROUGH THE PRIVATE SECTOR AND WHICH INCREASES TAX REVENUE AND GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD VOTED DOWN. THANK YOU. IT'S ALL HERE. CAN I GET THE OVERHEAD? CAN WE GET THE OVERHEAD PLEASE? THEY'RE GOING TO MOVE THIS OTHER WAY. YES. SO A WHILE BACK WE'RE WORKING ON THIS VALLEY VIEW PARK THING AND BUT I WANT TO KIND OF SPECIFICALLY FOCUS ON IS A CITY OF BLOOMINGTON ACTUALLY LIKE A LISTENING RIGHT. SO I'VE GOT THIS FLIER UP HERE IS IS A CITY BLOOMINGTON REALLY LISTENING SO AND JUST WE'RE LISTENING AND I DIDN'T HEAR YOU I'M GOING TO SAY THAT AGAIN. SO YOU DIDN'T HEAR THIS YOURSELF? THAT'S WHAT I WAS LISTENING FOR SO YOU CAN GET CAN YOU HEAR ME THERE? YOU HEAR ME OKAY. I'M ASKING YOU TO PRESENT YOURSELF FOR THE RECORD. PLEASE, MR. THAROOR. OH, MR. THORPE. ANDREW THORPE 54 YEARS IN BLOOMINGTON. SO WE'VE GONE RIGHT HERE A SURVEY THAT WAS DONE IN 2023 FOR THE COMMUNITY HEALTH AND WELLNESS CENTER. SO 88% OF THE PEOPLE STATED THEIR GREATEST NEEDS WERE OUTDOOR SPACES TO ENJOY NATURE RIGHT? THE OTHER 74% WANTED LIKE COVERED AREAS PARCHED AREAS OR SITTING TABLES. THE OTHER 74% WANTED OUTDOOR COMMUNITY SPACES. SO LOOK AT THE LOOKING AT OUTDOOR AMENITIES PRIMARILY FOR BLOOMINGTON. OBVIOUSLY THE ELECTRONICS THAT OUR KIDS ARE NOWADAYS WE NEED MORE AND MORE OUTDOOR OFFERINGS, YOU KNOW IN BLOOMINGTON. SO THE RESIDENTS HAVE SAID THAT ALL GROUPS OF PEOPLE SURVEYED DID NOT WANT INDOOR AQUATICS. WE HAVE TONS OF INDOOR AQUATICS RIGHT NOW IN OUR IN OUR SCHOOLS THAT ARE BLOOMINGTON SCHOOLS. MANY APARTMENT BUILDINGS ALSO HAVE INDOOR AQUATICS OFFERINGS. MOST GROUPS OF PEOPLE SURVEYED EXPRESSED CONCERN THAT THE COMMUNITY HEALTH AND WELLNESS CENTER WAS OFFERING REDUNDANT AMENITIES THAT WAS ALREADY ADMITTED. THERE'S MANY EXERCISE FACILITIES APARTMENTS NEARBY. THERE'S LIFETIME FITNESS, THERE'S PLANET FITNESS. THERE'S ALL SORTS OF INDOOR AREAS THAT WE CAN WE CAN EXERCISE THEM. MOST GROUPS OF PEOPLE EXPRESSED CONCERNS FOR FITTING THE AMENITIES ON THE CREEKSIDE LOT. THAT WAS A CONCERN THAT THE LOT WAS TOO SMALL FOR THE 136,000 THAT'S DOWN TO 106,000 RIGHT NOW. SO MOST GROUPS OF PEOPLE ALSO SURVEYED WERE CONCERNED WITH THE COST RECOVERY MODEL. THIS THING IS GOING TO BE VERY COSTLY. NUMBER ONE, YOU PASSED A HALF PERCENT SALES TAX FOR THIS RIGHT? NO ONE IN HERE HAS TALKED ABOUT THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT IT'S GOING TO COST IN STAFF AND WAGES. THIS WILL CONTINUE TO BURDEN OUR COMMUNITY. I WAS LOOKING AT I THINK IT'S LIKE $1.6 MILLION WORTH OF BENEFITS AND WAGES. THEY'RE GOING TO GO INTO THIS. SO THIS IS GOING TO COST US DEARLY IN THE CITY. SO SO THE OTHER CONCERNING THING WHEN THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS WERE ASKED IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT I HAVE NOT ASKED THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE IN THE COMMUNITY AND WELLNESS CENTER, TWO OF THE NINE ANSWERS WERE RELATED TO DEALING WITH CITIZENS THAT MAY HAVE DIFFERING OPINIONS RIGHT ? SO WHEN WE HAVE DIFFERENT OPINIONS IT ALWAYS IS SAID THERE'S A THERE'S A VOCAL MINORITY THAT MAKES A LOT OF NOISE. I'M FINDING OUT MORE AND MORE PEOPLE ARE OUT THE VOCAL MINORITY PEOPLE BEHIND ME DON'T WANT THIS THING HOW TO MANAGE THE MESSAGES OF PEOPLE OVER THE REACTIONS OF THE HOUSE. SO WE'RE WORRIED ABOUT MANAGING THE PEOPLE RIGHT NOW INSTEAD OF THE COMMUNITY CENTER. SO WHAT IF THE SMALL MINORITY HAVE DIFFERENT OPINIONS? THE CITY COUNCIL IS ACTIVELY DISCUSSING WAYS TO MANAGE THE PEOPLE OF BLOOMINGTON, RIGHT? SO YOU KIND OF WANT TO MANAGE US. THE OTHER THING I WAS LOOKING AT THE PLAN IT DOESN'T REALLY HAVE A LOT OF SPOTS FOR SNOW. YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAUL SNOW OUT OF THIS FACILITY IF YOU GET A BIG STORM EVENT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BRING IN THE FRONT LOADERS. IT'S GOING TO COST A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT TO HAUL SNOW OUT OF HERE. IT'S GOT NO PLAN FOR SNOW EITHER. SO I DIDN'T HEAR ANYBODY TALKING ABOUT THAT AND THE TRAFFIC STUDY IS APPALLING. IT'S NOT ACCURATE. SO CITY COUNCIL MAYOR, YOU TALKED ABOUT THAT CENTER AS A COMMUNITY A WHILE BACK KEEP A LITTLE CENTERS OF COMMUNITY POCKETS IN BLOOMINGTON LIKE IT IS NOW RETURNING THE MONEY BACK TO THE PEOPLE. TAKE THAT 100 MILLION, RETURN IT BACK TO THE PEOPLE, RIGHT? THEY NEED IT. PEOPLE BEHIND ME NEED THAT EXTRA MONEY. RIGHT? TAKE AND REMODEL THE EXISTING CENTER MAYBE 50 MILLION TO DO IT AND MAKE IT A CENTER OF COMMUNITY LIKE YOU SAID. MAYOR, THANK YOU. THANK YOU . HELLO MAYOR. COUNCIL MY NAME IS PAUL COTE. I THINK IT'S SAFE TO SAY AS ONE WHO SUPPORTS THE COMMUNITY CENTER THAT I'M GOING TO BE KIND OF LIKE A BADGER FAN AT A GO FOR HOME GAME RIGHT NOW. HOWEVER, I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT EVEN THOUGH I MAY BE OUTNUMBERED IN THIS ROOM TONIGHT THAT I AM NECESSARILY OUTNUMBERED IN THE COMMUNITY ITSELF. SO I'M AN 18 YEAR RESIDENT OF BLOOMINGTON AND I DIDN'T COMMUNICATE OR ENGAGE WITH THE COUNCIL UNTIL RECENT YEARS. IT'S HUMAN NATURE TO GET LOUD WHEN YOU HAVE A COMPLAINT BUT TO BE MORE QUIET AND MORE RESERVED AND WHEN YOU APPROVE OF WHAT'S HAPPENING AND WHEN A COMMUNITY CENTER WAS PROPOSED AT VALLEY VIEW SEVERAL YEARS AGO I WAS QUIETLY IN SUPPORT OF IT. I THOUGHT OH THIS IS AWESOME, THIS IS GOING TO BE GREAT. I LOOKED AT THE EARLY KIND OF PLANS AND PROPOSALS AND THINGS LIKE THAT AND THOUGHT WOW THIS IS GOING TO ROCK. I DIDN'T EVEN PAY ATTENTION TO CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS, NEVER SHOWED UP, NEVER VOICED MY OPINIONS OF WHAT WAS GOING ON BECAUSE I WAS GENERALLY APPROVING OF IT AND I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE DO THAT AND I THINK AS PUBLIC OFFICIALS YOU KNOW THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE WILL QUIET AT LEAST SUPPORT THINGS AND LOUDLY COMPLAIN AND THAT IS JUST PART OF HUMAN NATURE. BUT TONIGHT I DO WANT TO VOICE MY SUPPORT FOR THIS PROPOSAL AND I WANT TO THANK CITY STAFF FOR THE CONSISTENT DETAILED INFORMATION ABOUT THIS PROJECT THAT HAS BEEN PRESENTED IN BLOOMINGTON FORWARD.ORG CONSISTENTLY FROM THE BEGINNING. I WANT TO THANK THE CITY FOR ALL THE DIVERSE WAYS THAT ENGAGEMENT AND FEEDBACK AND CONVERSATION HAVE BEEN FACILITATED IN PERSON ONLINE AND THROUGH THE MAIL. AND YES YOU HAVE RECEIVED DIVERSE OPINIONS BUT YOU HAVE ALSO RECEIVED SUPPORT BACK IN 2023 WHEN MORE RESIDENTS VOTED FOR THE FUNDING OF THE CREEKSIDE REPLACEMENT THAN EVEN VOTED FOR BIG OR NINE MILE THE STEP BY STEP PROCESS TO FOLLOW THAT VOTE WAS CLEARLY LAID OUT. IT WAS CLEARLY LAID OUT BACK THEN. FIRST WE VOTE FOR THE FUNDING SOURCE, THEN ROBUST COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT EFFORTS INFORM PROVISIONAL PLANNING AND DESIGN OF THE STRUCTURE A FIRST DRAFT IF YOU WILL. ONLY ONCE THAT WAS DONE COULD PARKING AND TRAFFIC PLANNING PROCEED AND THAT DID AND THEN MORE THINGS WERE LEARNED AND PLANS WERE ADJUSTED AND THEN THE PLANNING COMMISSION WAS THEN ELECTED TO FORWARD THE PROPOSAL TO YOU AND HERE WE ARE TONIGHT THE CITY FOLLOWED THE STEPS THAT ARE SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN IN ORDER AS WAS COMMUNICATED AT THE BEGINNING WHETHER EVERYONE IN THE COMMUNITY PAID ATTENTION TO EVERY STEP FROM THE BEGINNING THAT DID HAPPEN BECAUSE I WATCHED IT HAPPEN FROM THE BEGINNING. NOW THAT SAID, NOT EVERYONE IS HAPPY ABOUT THIS PROJECT ESPECIALLY MANY OF THE RESIDENTS TO THE EAST OF CREEKSIDE AND AS A PROPERTY OWNER IN BLOOMINGTON THERE ARE TWO KIND OF OPPOSING THINGS HERE. ONE I UNDERSTAND THAT ANY CONSTRUCTION PROJECT AND CHANGE TO A NEARBY FACILITY WILL CAUSE SOME STRESS A LOT OF STRESS PROBABLY FOR NEIGHBORS FOR A PERIOD OF TIME. BUT I ALSO KNOW THAT ANYONE WHO MAKES THE CHOICE TO BUY PROPERTY ACROSS THE STREET FROM CITY PROPERTY DOES ACCEPT SOME RISK. THAT RENOVATION OF SAID PROPERTY WILL OCCUR AT LEAST ONCE EVERY SEVERAL DECADES AS THE CITY INVESTS IN SUPPORTING GENERATIONS OF FUTURE CITIZENS AND FAMILIES. SO I THINK WE CAN DO TWO THINGS AT ONCE. I THINK WE CAN BUILD THE FACILITY BUT I ALSO THINK WE CAN DO IT CONSCIENTIOUSLY TO LESSEN THE IMPACT ON RESIDENTS. I THINK ADVANCE NOTICE AND LIMITED HOURS FOR LOUD CONSTRUCTION NOISE SHOULD BE SOMETHING WE DO SAFETY SIGNS AND BARRIERS AND TRAFFIC CALMING MEASURES. WE HEARD ABOUT SPECIFIC ACCOMMODATIONS TO MEET THE NEEDS OF PARTICULAR INDIVIDUALS IN THE COMMUNITY. ABSOLUTELY AND THIS IS AN ASIDE BUT I ACTUALLY SAW THIS FROM SOMEBODY WHO OPPOSED THIS PROJECT WHO POSTED ON SOCIAL MEDIA THAT WE COULD OFFER A FREE LIFETIME MEMBERSHIP TO THE CENTER TO EVERY HOUSEHOLD ON THAT BLOCK. YOU CAN WORK TO ACCOMMODATE THE NEEDS OF NEWTON RESIDENTS IN THE SHORT TERM AND THINK OF GENERATIONS OF BLOOMINGTON CHILDREN AND FAMILIES WHO WILL BE SERVED BY THIS CENTER IN THE LONG TERM. I HOPE YOU THOROUGHLY LISTEN TO THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE MOST AFFECTED, YOU KNOW, IN THE CLOSE PROXIMITY BUT ALSO TO THOSE OF US WHO DID SHOW UP TO VOICE OUR SUPPORT AT THE BALLOT BOX AND SUBSEQUENT COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT EVENTS AND OPPORTUNITIES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MR. COTE ONCE AGAIN, GOOD EVENING, JEFFREY CHOQUETTE THERE'S JUST SO MANY POINTS THAT THAT JUST DON'T COME TOGETHER FOR ME. ONE OF THEM IS THE DESPAIR ADDY BETWEEN ONE ONE PERSON SAID WELL WE DON'T HAVE ANY TRAFFIC PROBLEMS YET SO WE DON'T NEED TRAFFIC CALMING MEASURES AND ONE SAYS THE OTHER ONE SAYS OH WE'LL PUT IN THESE TRAFFIC CALMING MEASURES AND EVERYTHING IS JUST GOING TO BE SO WONDERFUL. I LIVE ON WEST 110TH STREET WITH MY WIFE JULIE. WE'VE BEEN THERE 28 YEARS AND IT'S BEEN A CONSTANT PROBLEM WITH TRAFFIC SPEEDS. THE CITY DECIDED TO RESTRICT IT TO ONE LANE EACH DIRECTION WHICH DIDN'T DO ANYTHING. NOW INSTEAD OF HAVE HAVING PEOPLE PASS EACH OTHER ON AT LEAST THE SAME DIRECTION WE'VE GOT PEOPLE 5060 MILES AN HOUR UP OVER A HILL PASSING IN THE ONCOMING LANE HEADING TOWARDS THE ENTRANCE TO THE GOLF COURSE TRAFFIC STUDIES Y'ALL REMEMBER WHEN TARGET WANTED TO BUILD THE FACILITY THE OTHER COMMENT SPECIFICALLY ON THE DO I DO OPPOSED HEALTH AND WELLNESS CENTER I DO I DO IT HERE I DO YES. THE TRAFFIC STUDY IS SO INCREDIBLY FLAWED AND AGAIN IT CONTRADICTS IT. IT CONTRADICTS THINGS THE FLAWED TRAFFIC STUDY AT THE TARGET ATTEMPT WAS FAILED BECAUSE OF A FLAWED TRAFFIC STUDY. THEY STOPPED IT SAID NO. WHAT YOU'RE TELLING US IS NOT TRUE AND WHAT THEY'RE TELLING YOU IS NOT TRUE. YOU CAN'T TELL ME THAT LOSING ONE ENTRANCE EXIT ON PENN AVENUE IS GOING TO REDUCE TRAFFIC ON NEWTON IN WHAT? IN WHAT AND WHAT CALCULATOR DOES THAT WORK? WE'VE TALKED ABOUT COMPLIANCE WITH CODES MY NEIGHBOR TO THE WEST TO ME TERRY GOT A LETTER FROM SOMEONE HERE AT THE CITY HERE'S A SHED IN THE BACK CORNER OF HIS LOT THAT YOU CAN'T SEE UNLESS YOU'RE ON THE PROPERTY YOU'RE IN VIOLATION OF THE CODE. YOU'RE GOING TO GET A FINE IF YOU DON'T PAINT IT. NEIGHBOR ON THE OTHER SIDE OF ME HAD A TREE BRANCH HANGING OVER HIS OVER THEIR PROPERTY. IS THE CITY NOW ADVOCATING FOR INSURANCE COMPANIES BECAUSE THEY SAID TAKE TAKE THE TREE BRANCH DOWN OR YOU WILL RECEIVE A FINE WHY DO I AND MY NEIGHBORS HAVE TO COMPLY WHEN THE NUMBERS THAT YOU'RE GETTING TONIGHT ARE OUT OF COMPLIANCE? WHY IS THAT OKAY WHY IS IT OKAY FOR FOR THE CITY COUNCIL TO WRITE THEMSELVES SOME FORGIVENESS WHEN WHEN WE DON'T GET ANY FORGIVENESS TALKED ABOUT THE MARTIN LUTHER MANOR HOW THE THE INCREASE IN TRAFFIC DIDN'T FIT THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN HOW DOES THE INCREASE IN TRAFFIC WHAT WAS IT 167% INCREASE AND THAT'S USING WHAT I BELIEVE TO BE FLAWED NUMBERS. HOW DOES THAT FIT INTO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN? HOW DOES SOMEONE LOSING 50 TO $100,000 IN EQUITY IN THEIR HOME HOW DOES THAT FIT INTO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN? I'M JUST I'M NOT SEEING IT. I WAS IN CONSTRUCTION FOR 20 YEARS AND I SEE WHAT IT COSTS. I SEE THE IMPACT IT HAS ON NEIGHBORHOODS AND THAT'S JUST A CONSTRUCT WHEN YOU'RE REMOVED. THEY TALKED ABOUT REMOVING GREEN SPACES, HEAT ISLANDS FLOODING, SNOW REMOVAL, THE COST OF OF WAGES AND WELFARE AND BENEFITS FOR ALL THE HOW MANY PEOPLE IS IT GOING TO TAKE TO RUN THIS PLACE? NOBODY HAS SAID A WORD. IN FACT, PEOPLE WHO HAVE DONE DATA REQUESTS A MONTH AGO HAVEN'T EVEN RECEIVED THE NUMBERS THAT THEY'VE BEEN ASKING FOR YOU YOU'RE NOT BE YOU'RE NOT BEING UPFRONT WITH US AND I THINK IT'S TIME TO STOP UP. ONE GENTLEMAN SAID HE THOUGHT THE IDEA OF PUTTING THAT VALLEY VIEW WAS JUST THE GREATEST IDEA. I THINK YOU SHOULD REALLY CONSIDER MOVING IT BEFORE YOU FORCE IT ON TO A POSTAGE STAMP AND HAVE HUGE SO MANY FUTURE PROBLEMS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU . GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS DALE JOHNSON. I AM A SHORT TERM RESIDENT OF BLOOMINGTON. I'M NOT A HOME OWNER. I LIVE IN AN APARTMENT. I DON'T KNOW EVERYTHING ABOUT THIS OPPORTUNITY OF THIS BUILDING. THE PARTS OF WHAT I HEAR IS THAT THE MEDICAL PART OF IT WHICH I DON'T QUITE UNDERSTAND WHAT THE CITY DOES IT SHOULD BE IN THE MEDICAL BUSINESS, YOU KNOW, PROVIDING THINGS FOR THE SENIORS. I HAPPEN TO BE ONE FOR RECREATION. THAT'S GREAT. BUT WHEN YOU START OPENING IT UP TO OH, WE'RE GOING TO BE A MEDICAL FACILITY NOW YOU'RE JUST OPENING A DOOR THAT WILL NEVER CLOSE AND WILL ALWAYS BE EXPANDED. BUT I, I DON'T HAVE ALL THE FACTS SO IF I'M WRONG FORGIVE ME BUT I THINK I HEAR THAT THIS BUILDING IS GOING TO BE SERVICING PEOPLE NOT ONLY WHO LIVE IN BLOOMINGTON BUT PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN RICHFIELD AND PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN EDINA. WHY IS THAT SO THE COUNCIL AND THE CITY BECAUSE LOOK WHAT WE'RE DOING FOR THESE OTHER CITIES BECAUSE WE'RE A BIG CITY, WE'RE NUMBER FOUR IN THE STATE. SO IF BLOOMINGTON RESIDENTS ARE PAYING TO PROVIDE SERVICES FOR RICHFIELD AND EDINA AND I SEE YOU SHAKING YOUR HEAD. YEAH. SO IF I'M WRONG CLEARLY STATE TONIGHT TELL EVERYBODY NO THERE IS NOTHING GOING TO BE PAID FOR FOR RICHFIELD ANY DINER I'LL WAIT IN HERE. THANK YOU . OTHERS GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL MAYOR MY NAME IS JONATHAN MINKS. I LIVE HERE IN BLOOMINGTON AND I ALSO SERVE AS THE CHAIR OF THE PARKS ARTS AND RECREATION COMMISSION. BUT EVERYTHING I'M SEEING TONIGHT IS PUBLIC INFORMATION AND THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS I'VE BEEN CLOSER TO THE STARTING POINT. SO WHAT FOLLOWS ARE RESIDENT COMMENTS AND PERSPECTIVES TRAFFIC. WHEN I ATTENDED A PLANNING MEETING, KIRK ROBERTS STATED THAT LOSING THE PENN AVENUE ENTRANCE WOULD MAKE TRAFFIC HEAVIER AND NEWTON AVENUE. HE EVEN SAID THAT WAS PLACING ALL THE TRAFFIC ON NEWTON AVENUE. AND THEN JUST A WEEK LATER WHEN HENNEPIN COUNTY DENIED YOUR ACCESS ON PENN AVENUE, KIRK ROBERTS SAID TRAFFIC ON NEWTON WOULD DECREASE. THAT'S AN AMAZING SHIFT. CAN ANYONE HERE HONESTLY EXPLAIN HOW RESIDENTS ARE SUPPOSED TO TRUST SUCH A SUDDEN REVERSAL SIZE SINCE 2019 CITY OFFICIALS HAVE SAID THE SITE IS TOO SMALL YET THE PROJECT CONTINUES HERE WITHOUT SPACE FOR PARKING GROWTH OR FUTURE EXPANSION. THIS WAS NEVER IN THE SALES PITCH AMENITIES WHAT WAS PROMISED TO RESIDENTS DURING THE SALES TAX CAMPAIGN IS NOT WHAT'S BEING DELIVERED. SENIORS ARE NOW SEEING THEIR ACTIVITIES SPLIT ALL ACROSS THE CITY INSTEAD OF UNDER ONE ROOF THAT WAS NEVER IN THE SALES PITCH TO RESIDENTS OUTDOOR AMENITIES RESIDENTS HAS ASKED SINCE 2015 AND 2016 WHEN THE ORIGINAL COMMUNITY CENTER SALE TASK FORCE WAS GENERATED FOR OUTDOOR FEATURES. YET NOW WE'RE TOLD BY YOU THIS TO COME TO CIVIC PLAZA, HARRISON PARK OR MOYER PARK AND IT'S CLOSE ENOUGH THAT WAS NEVER IN THE SALES PITCH TO RESIDENTS TRANSIT BLOOMINGTON AND SCORED TWO OF 16 ON TRANSIT ON THEIR LED I REMEMBER YOU MAYOR BRINGING THAT UP IN ONE OF THE LAST MEETINGS YET THIS PROJECT WAS PROMOTED AS TRANSIT FRIENDLY ON FOX NINE. THEY EVEN RAN A SEGMENT HIGHLIGHTING HOW GLORIOUS THIS TRANSIT ACCESS WOULD BE FOR THE LOCATION. I REMEMBER YOU COUNCIL COUNCILMEMBER SAYING YOU WOULDN'T ALLOW ANY TRANSIT ISSUES. YOU WERE VERY FIRM ON YOUR STATEMENT THAT NIGHT. SO HOW DO YOU JUSTIFY THAT BEING A WIN WITH A TRANSIT SCORE OF TWO OF 16? AND IT'S NOT JUST ME SAYING THIS IT'S COMMISSIONERS AND PARK COMMISSIONERS AND PLANNING AND RESIDENTS ALIKE THAT HAVE RAISED CONCERNS ABOUT THE LOCATION, THE PROCESS AND WHETHER THIS IS THE BEST LONG TERM FIT FOR BLOOMINGTON. THIS IS A ONCE IN A GENERATION PROJECT BLOOMINGTON GETS ONE SHOT AT THIS. WE CANNOT SETTLE FOR JUST GOOD ENOUGH SIMPLY BECAUSE THE PROJECT IS ALREADY IN MOTION. AND FINALLY I SAID MUCH OF THIS IN A PRIOR LISTENING SESSION BUT THAT RECORDING WAS LOST TO TECHNICAL GLITCH SO I SHOWED UP TONIGHT TO PUT THIS ON THE RECORD AGAIN TONIGHT BECAUSE THE RESIDENTS DESERVE TO HEAR IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU . I WISHING TO SPEAK DO WE HAVE ANYONE ON THE PHONE WHO'S WAITING PATIENTLY? MAYOR WE HAVE ONE CALLER ON LINE. WE HAVE ONE CALLER YOU SAID YES. WHY DON'T WE CAN YOU WAIT JUST TWO MINUTES? YOU'RE RIGHT. CAN WE PATCH IN A CALLER PLEASE? YES, CALLER WITH PHONE NUMBER 631355 YOU WILL NOW BE IN MUTED CAN YOU HEAR ME? >> YES WE CAN. GOOD EVENING. >> HI. I AM IN A LARGE EMPTY HOUSE. I'M SORRY. GOOD AND VERY UGLY. I'M DANNY. HOLLY. I'M A RESIDENT ON 88TH STREET . >> I HAVE A MIGRAINE SO I'M SORRY TO NOT BE IN PERSON WITH YOU ALL BUT THOSE LIGHTS ARE A LITTLE BIT HARD FOR ME AND I'M CALLING TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE THE PROCESS I'M DESIGNING THE INSIDE OF THE BUILDING BECAUSE I'VE HEARD A LOT OF PEOPLE SAY THAT IT'S THAT NOBODY WANTS IT, NOBODY PEOPLE WANTED MORE THAN WHAT'S IN IT AND ALSO THAT IT'S NOT ADEQUATE FOR THE FOCUS GROUP. >> THE TIME THAT I WAS ENGAGED WITH BY THE CITY FOR THIS PROJECT WAS A YEAR AGO JULY AT ABOUT 14 MONTHS I GOT TO PARTICIPATE AS PART OF A LARGE FOCUS GROUP OF FAMILIES OF YOUNG CHILDREN ORGANIZER TODD PART AND THEN ALSO I PARTICIPATED IN AN ACCESSIBILITY WORKSTREAM THAT WAS SEPARATE FROM THAT THAT THE CITY PUT TOGETHER BASED ON SOME COMMENTS I HAD IN THE FIRST FOCUS GROUP SAT WITH THEM AND I FOUND THIS PROCESS WHERE THEY CAME TO US AND THEY TOLD US WHAT THE LIMITATIONS OF THE SPACE CENTER OF THE SITE WAS AND THEN THE PEOPLE IN THAT ROOM THE VISION BOARD IN AND PROBLEM SOLVING AND PRIORITIZING AND RANKING WHAT THEY DIDN'T DIDN'T WANT IN THE BUILDING AND HOW THEY WANTED THAT BUILDING TO OPERATE FOR THEM AND SO THE BUILDING THAT WE ENDED UP WITH AT THE END IS A COLLABORATIVE BUILDING WHERE THE PRIORITIES AND NEEDS OF A LARGE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE WERE WEIGHED AGAINST EACH OTHER AND SOME STUFF THAT WE WANTED DIDN'T MAKE IT IN THE BUILDING LIKE THERE'S A MAKERSPACE THAT SCORED REALLY HIGH FOR US NOT IN THE BUILDING PROBABLY BECAUSE IT DIDN'T SCORE HIGH FOR THE TEAM ON THE TEAM GROUP OR THE SENIORS GROUP OR WHATEVER AND ALL OF OUR PRIORITIES ARE PUT TOGETHER SO I'M PRETTY CONFIDENT THAT WE ENDED UP IN THE BUILDING ARE GOING TO BE VERY USEFUL FOR RESIDENTS AND IS REFLECTIVE OF WHAT WE VOTED ON AND IS REFLECTIVE OF THE WILL OF THE COMMUNITY. SO I JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT ESPECIALLY CONSIDERING THINGS LIKE THE CITY PLANNING FOR WHERE LIVE WHICH IS FOR PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES TO BE ABLE TO USE CERTAIN THINGS THAT THEY NEED TO BE LIKE LIFTED UP IN THEIR CHAIR EITHER TO CHANGE EITHER FOR HYGIENE REASONS OR TO USE THE FACILITY AND MOST MEDICAL FACILITIES ON A FORKLIFT BECAUSE PEOPLE DON'T EVEN THINK OF THOSE WHO MIGHT NEED THEM AS BEING ABLE TO PARTICIPATE. SO FOR THE CITY TO CONSIDER PUTTING ONE IN A LOCKER ROOM AND IN A BATHROOM WITH AN ADULT CHANGING TABLE IS REVOLUTIONARY AND IT'S BECAUSE THE CITY BROUGHT IN PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES TO HELP THEM WHAT THEY NEEDED AND SO WE WILL BE A DESTINATION FOR ALL SORTS OF DIFFERENT AREAS BECAUSE OF THAT. BUT OTHER PEOPLE WILL BE PAYING THE MEMBERSHIP FEE OR THE DAILY RATE TO GET IN AND LIKE RIGHT NOW I GO TO A DINER FOR AN INDOOR PLAYGROUND. IT'S NOT AN ACCESSIBLE ONE HOUR THERE'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE A BUT DEFINITELY GOING TO BE AND I PAID $10 TO GO PLAY THERE. >> I COULD GIVE THAT $10 TO BLOOMINGTON AND THE PEOPLE IN A DINER WANT TO COME TO OUR BRAND NEW AWESOME ONE AND THEY'LL GIVE US THEIR $10 INSTEAD OF ME GIVING THEM MY $10. SO THAT'S KIND OF WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT WHEN THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT THE COMMUNITY BALANCING IN THAT WAY LIKE THE CLOSES ZERO ENTRY INDOOR POOL TO US IS SOCCER P I REALLY LIKE TO NOT DRIVE SOCCER. >> I IMAGINE PEOPLE IN SOUTH MINNEAPOLIS DON'T WANT TO DRIVE THE SOCCER EITHER. >> SO THAT'S KIND OF HOW THAT SPACE CAN HAVE SOME COST RECOVERY AND THEN BE USEFUL AS AN AVENUE. >> I ACTUALLY DON'T THINK THAT THE THE STREET PLAN IS 100% CORRECT THERE AND I THINK IT COULD TAKE MAYBE A LITTLE BIT OF LOOKING AT SPECIFICALLY AS A PARENT OF YOUNG CHILDREN AND WE WORKED A LOT WITH PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES HAVING NO SIDEWALK ON THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE OF NEWTOWN WORRIES ME BECAUSE YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS THE COMEDIES AND KNOW THERE'S THERE'S SOMETHING THAT THAT PART OF HEARING ON THAT BLOCK I'M SURE THERE ALSO ARE PEOPLE WITH YOUNG CHILDREN I WOULDN'T BE SHOCKED IF SOMEBODY HAS A CHILD WITH AUTISM ON THE BLOCK JUST THINK THAT THERE'S MULTIPLE AUTISTIC AT THE MY BLOCK INCLUDING MY SON. >> SO THAT SIDEWALK COULD BE A REALLY GOOD BARRIER AND A WAY TO BUFFER ESPECIALLY IF WE DON'T HAVE A BIKE LANE. >> IT'S GOING TO BE A HEAVY TRAFFIC AREA AND IT'S A PLACE THAT PEOPLE ARE USED TO USING IN THEIR COMMUNITY. SO ONE THING I WOULD ASK FOR IT I THINK THIS SITE IS RIGHT. I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO GET MUCH BETTER ON HOW THE TRAFFIC LAYOUT IS. I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO GET MUCH BETTER ON PARKING. I LIKE THE IDEA OF USING IT AS MITIGATION TO OPEN UP STALLS AND I AM WORRIED ABOUT THAT COMMUNITY NOT BEING BUFFERED FROM THE MORE BUSY STREET WITH A SIDEWALK OR A RIGHT OF WAY. >> SO I THINK THAT'S PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING I HAVE TO SAY. >> I THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME KIND OF RAMBLE AND FALL OFF POINT. IT'S REALLY DISORIENTING TO JUST BE TALKING AT A PHONE AND I CAN'T SEE YOU COUNCIL OR THE PEOPLE IN MY COMMUNITY BEHIND ME BUT I JUST WANTED TO VOICE THAT THIS HAS BEEN A VERY COLLABORATIVE PROCESS THAT I'VE BEEN HONORED TO BE A PART OF AND I'M HOPING THAT WE CONTINUE TO COLLABORATE AS WE BUILD THE CENTER THAT THE CITY IS SO CLEARLY WANTED IN ALL OF US. BUT OTHER THAN WHAT YOU KNOW, PROBABLY OVER 100 PEOPLE TOTAL, THE BIGGEST THING PEOPLE WANTED TO KNOW IS WHAT IS GOING TO BE DONE. SO YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET TO THAT. YES. >> OVER AS I SAY SO THANK YOU . THANK YOU, MS.. CALLIE PLEASE . HELLO. MY NAME'S MATTHEW HALLETT. MANY OF YOU BEFORE AND SEVERAL LISTENING SESSIONS. FIRST TIME I'VE BEEN IN FRONT OF SO MANY PEOPLE IN A VERY LONG TIME SO I'M OKAY. SO BY AND BY I'M MOSTLY IN FAVOR OF THIS PROJECT. I FEEL LIKE THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT WE COULD DO A LITTLE BIT ABOUT ME. I LIVE IN SOUTH BLOOMINGTON BY MY MILE CREEK. MY ROAD WAS REDEVELOPED RIGHT WHEN I MOVED IN AND AT FIRST I KIND OF THOUGHT IT TO BE HONEST BECAUSE IT WAS A HASSLE. I MEAN I HAD JUST PURCHASED MY HOME. IT WASN'T THAT BIG OF A DEAL FOR PROPERTY VALUES AND THAT TYPE OF THING. IN FACT I'M I'M WAY AHEAD NOW ESPECIALLY BECAUSE I DIDN'T REALLY LET IT GET TO ME. I MADE THE BEST OF THE SITUATION BY PLANTING NATIVE PLANTS AND I WAS ACTUALLY HOW I STARTED MY JOURNEY INTO DOING HABITAT RESTORATION FOR BLOOMINGTON AND STARTED ADVOCACY FOR IT. I'M A CREEK AS WELL AS ALL OF OUR MANY OF OUR OTHER NATURAL RESOURCES HERE AND I'M DOING THE SAME THING FOR THIS PROJECT AS WELL. I MET SOME OF YOU AT SOME OF THE COMMUNITY GATHERINGS THAT WE'VE HAD AND TALK TO YOU ABOUT THIS. I'VE TALKED TO MANY OF THE CITY STAFF AND I ACTUALLY WISH THAT I WAS ON SOME OF THOSE FOCUS GROUPS ON THE INSIDE BECAUSE I DO THINK THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO DO BETTER. ONE THING I DO THINK THAT COULD BE DONE BETTER ADDRESSING BOTH THE HEAT ISLAND ISSUES IS PUTTING A GREEN ROOF ON IT. I DON'T BELIEVE THAT WAS IN THE BUDGET INITIALLY AND ONE REASON WHY I THINK THAT IT'S A GOOD IDEA TO DO IS THAT IT DOES DO A MITIGATION EFFECT IF YOU HAVE A WHITE ROOF, A TAR ROOF, WHATEVER YOU PLAN ON PUTTING SOMETIMES YOU PUT STONES ON THE ROOF. ALL OF THAT DOES CONTRIBUTE TO THE HEAT ISLAND EFFECT IF YOU DO A LIVING ROOF ESPECIALLY ON A FLAT ROOF WHICH IS WHAT SEEMS TO BE PROPOSED HERE, IT'S DOABLE. THE TARGET CENTER HAS ONE THERE'S MANY COMPANIES AROUND THAT DO IT A LOT OF THEM YOU CAN FIND PLENTY OF RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE U OF M AND THE ONE PRIMARY REASON WHY I THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA TO DO IS THAT POOLS ARE EXPENSIVE ESPECIALLY AND AS YOU KNOW FROM THE PUBLIC FOR THE OUTDOOR ONE YOU HAVE TO YOU KNOW PATCH LEAKS CONSTANTLY REPAIR IT THAT TYPE OF THING. AND I'M A SWIMMER. I WANT I WANT A POOL. I WOULD I WOULD LOVE ONE. HOWEVER, I FEEL AS THOUGH IF WE DO IT RIGHT OFF THE GET GO WE CAN SAVE A LOT OF MONEY DOWN THE ROAD AND ONE WAY YOU DO THAT IS YOU GOT TO PUT A HAT ON IT WHEN IT'S INDOORS AND THE OTHER THING THAT YOU SHOULD CONSIDER IS NOT USING CHLORINE. YOU SHOULD USE UV LIGHT INSTEAD OR EVEN SALT. THERE'S ACTUALLY SEVERAL DIFFERENT METHODS YOU COULD USE. YOU CAN SAVE MONEY IN THE SYSTEM. IT DOESN'T ERODE THE BUILDING. YOU CAN ACTUALLY THERE'S ACTUALLY MANY FORENSIC ENGINEERS WHO HAVE DISCOVERED THAT IF YOU DO IT WRONG YOU CAN KILL PEOPLE, IT CAN DESTROY YOUR BUILDING. THEY CAN LITERALLY EAT IT. I MEAN CHLORINE GAS WAS USED IN WORLD WAR ONE FOR A REASON . AS FOR THE REST OF THE PROJECT, ESPECIALLY IN TERMS OF TRAFFIC AND THAT TYPE OF STUFF, MY PRIMARY CONCERN IS THAT WE'RE KICKING THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD FROM HERE BASICALLY BY DOING WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE AND I DON'T FEEL LIKE THIS PLAN IS REALLY GOING TO CHANGE NO MATTER WHAT WE PUT THIS BUILDING. IT'S THE PARKING REQUIREMENT WITHOUT ACTUALLY MAKING A COMMITMENT AWAY FROM A CAR CENTRIC SUBURB WHICH IS HARD TO DO. I UNDERSTAND YOU'RE GOING TO BE LOCKED INTO THIS EVERY SINGLE AMENITY THAT YOU PUT INTO THE CITY UNTIL YOU MAKE A COMMITMENT TO ADD BIKE LANES, ADD MORE PUBLIC TRANSIT YOU'RE GOING TO BE FORCED TO DO THIS EVERY SINGLE TIME WE'VE TALKED I MEAN I'VE TALKED TO MANY OF YOU ONE ON ONE THERE WAS DISCUSSIONS ABOUT ME AND I WAS ACTUALLY PLEASED TO SEE THAT YOU KIND OF TOOK THE DONALDSON I ACTUALLY USED TO WORK FOR DONALDSON IN THEIR PARKING LOTS ARE SHADED BY THE TREES. IT'S A PRETTY IT'S NOT THE BEST METHOD. SOME OF THE BETTER METHODS IS JUST USING CARPORT SOLAR CARPORT YOU CAN PLANT STUFF ON CARPORTS. IT'S A PRETTY CHEAP ALTERNATIVE. IT'S ALL THE COUNTRIES DO IT PRETTY WELL. YOU DON'T SEE IT THAT OFTEN HERE AND THEN IN TERMS OF LANDSCAPING AND THAT TYPE OF STUFF I HAVE BEEN ADVOCATING FOR THAT FROM DAY ONE AND I GOT KIND OF TO WRAP IT UP ACTUALLY ONE MORE THING NORMANDALE YOU DON'T ACTUALLY HAVE TO BUILD A MASSIVE TRANSIT STATION HERE. NORMANDALE DOES IT PRETTY WELL . WHEN I WAS GOING THERE WE WERE JUST HANGING OUT IN THE ATRIUM . IF YOU BUILD YOUR TRANSIT CENTER FACING WHERE THE TRANSIT'S GOING TO GO OR SORRY IF YOU'RE GOING TO BUILD YOUR ATRIUM TO WHERE THE TRANSIT IS GOING TO GO, YOU CAN JUST HANG OUT THERE AND THAT MEANS YOU HANG OUT FOR LONGER, YOU BUILD MORE COMMUNITY, YOU DO MORE THINGS THAT ARE COMMUNITY SOMETHING YOU SHOULD BE DOING . YOU DON'T ACTUALLY NEED ALL THESE FANCY YOU KNOW YOU DON'T NEED TO BE BEHEST TO THE PUBLIC TRANSIT SYSTEM ON THAT FRONT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MR. HALLETT. ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK THIS EVENING ? YEAH. HI THERE. ALAN REDDING, A LONGTIME RESIDENT OF BLOOMINGTON OVER 25 YEARS. SO BACK IN 2021 THE CITY DECLARED THAT RACISM IS A PUBLIC HEALTH EMERGENCY AND THE CONSEQUENCE OF THAT ACTION IS THAT ANY ORDINANCE OR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT OF SIGNIFICANCE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A RACIAL EQUITY IMPACT ANALYSIS COMPLETED. SO MY QUESTION TO THE COUNCIL IS HAS THE CITY COMPLETED THAT? HAVE YOU HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW THAT? IS THERE SOMETHING THAT YOU FEEL IS IMPORTANT BEFORE YOU HAVE TO REVIEW BEFORE YOU APPROVE THE COMMUNITY CENTER? MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT, YOU KNOW, BASED ON MY PRIOR INTERACTION WITH THE CITY AROUND THE THE SPEED LIMIT REDUCTION INITIATIVE IS THAT THE EQUITY IMPACT ANALYSIS IS NOT NECESSARILY REQUIRED IF THERE'S A MATTER OF PUBLIC SAFETY INVOLVED. SO I WAS A LITTLE SURPRISED BY THAT. BUT JUST KNOWING WHAT THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THE COMMUNITY CENTER IS TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC, I WOULD HOPE THAT THAT IMPACT ANALYSIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS REQUIRED BEFORE APPROVAL AND THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT SPEAKS TO YOU KNOW, NOT JUST THE IMPACT TO THE COMMUNITY AROUND US BUT JUST THE IMPACT LOCALLY TO THE NEIGHBORS WE HAVE ON NEWTON AVENUE. SO SOMEONE WHO ACTUALLY WOULD PROBABLY BENEFIT FROM THE COMMUNITY CENTER MY PROPERTY VALUES WOULD PROBABLY RISE MY EQUITY IN MY HOUSE WOULD INCREASE. BUT YOU KNOW, UNTIL RECENTLY, YOU KNOW, KNOWING WHAT THE IMPACT WAS, I'VE REALLY CHANGED MY MIND ABOUT THIS PROJECT BECAUSE I YOU KNOW, REALLY CAN'T SEE THIS GOING FORWARD UNTIL SOMEHOW THOSE RESIDENTS OF NEWTON AVENUE ARE PROPERLY COMPENSATED BEFORE APPROVAL AND I THINK THAT WOULD GO A LONG WAY TOWARD BUILDING GOODWILL IN THE CITY AND YOU KNOW, HELP BRING MORE PEOPLE ON BOARD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU . ANYONE ELSE IN THE CHAMBERS? ANYONE ELSE ON THE PHONE? WE HAVE ANOTHER PHONE CALL. ALL RIGHT. CALL AND SPEAKER ID PHONE NUMBER 952457. >> YOU ARE NOW IN MUTED. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I'M SHANNON MAVIS I'M A RESIDENT OF BLOOMINGTON FOR 30 YEARS. I AM JUST GOING TO NOTE THAT BY YOUR ANALYSIS NO ONE WOULD BE PARKING ON NEWTON BECAUSE THERE ARE MORE THAN ENOUGH SPACES IN THE LOT. >> SO THEREFORE YOU CONSIDERING PARKING ON NEWTON AT TRAFFIC CALMING IS FALSE SO YOU ARE NOT GOING TO MITIGATE UNDER THE CITY THRESHOLD ACCORDING TO THE CITY'S ROADSIDE CLASSIFICATION. NEWTON AVENUE IS NOT A COLLECTOR SO FOR CITY STAFF AND PORTLAND TO CALL IT THAT IS ALSO FALSE. I HOPE THE COUNCIL CAN SEE THROUGH THE ATTEMPTS TO MAKE THIS PROJECT WORK ON AN UNWORKABLE SITE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. LAST CALL FOR ANYBODY IN THE CHAMBERS WHO HAS BEEN MORE THAN ONE, YOU GET ONE BITE OF THE APPLE. SORRY. BRING ANYBODY ON THE PHONE JUMPING IN HERE NO MATTER. ALL RIGHT, COUNSEL NO ONE ON THE PHONE, NO ONE COMING FORWARD TO SPEAK AND LOOK FOR A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING SO MOVED SO MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON ITEM 4.3 THIS EVENING. NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSED THE MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO. THANK YOU MUCH. THANK YOU EVERYBODY WHO SPOKE . APPRECIATE IT AND THANKS FOR THE INPUT THAT YOU DID PROVIDE TO ANSWER A COUPLE OF THE QUESTIONS AND JUST MAYBE CORRECT A COUPLE OF THE THINGS. MR. JOHNSON BLOOMINGTON HAS BEEN PROVIDING PUBLIC HEALTH SERVICES TO BE DOWN IN RICHFIELD FOR DECADES THROUGH OUR DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC HEALTH. WE'RE ONE OF FOUR CITIES OR THREE CITIES IN THE STATE OF MINNESOTA THAT HAS A DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC HEALTH AND THEY PERFORM IMPORTANT WORK. EDINA AND RICHFIELD DO PAY THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON FOR THOSE SERVICES AND THEY SERVE THIS SERVICE THAT BLOOMINGTON PROVIDES ACTUALLY IS ABOVE AND BEYOND SO MANY OTHER SERVICES HENNEPIN COUNTY, THE REST OF THE REST OF THE STATE AND SO ON AND THEY'VE BEEN DOING THAT OUTSTANDING WORK FOR YEARS. PART OF THE REASON WE WERE ABLE TO JUSTIFY A COMMUNITY HEALTH AND WELLNESS CENTER AS A REGIONAL PROJECT IS BECAUSE BLOOMINGTON SERVES EDINA AND RICHFIELD THAT'S WHAT MAKES IT A A REGIONAL PROJECT WHICH THEN ALLOWS FOR A LOCAL SALES TAX TO BE APPLIED TO PAY FOR IT. SO THAT'S BEEN GOING ON FOR FOR QUITE SOME TIME. I HEARD ABOUT 2 OR 3 PEOPLE TALK ABOUT THE PROPOSED 18% PROPERTY TAX INCREASE. IF YOU TUNED IN LAST WEEK OUR FIRST NUMBER THAT WE'VE COME THROUGH THAT STAFF HAS COME THROUGH WITH IS 9.44%, NOT 18%. SO FOR FOLKS WHEREAS IN TUNE AS YOU ALL ARE I'M SURPRISED YOU DIDN'T KEEP UP ON THAT BECAUSE WE DID JUST HAVE THAT DISCUSSION LAST WEEK AND WE MADE THAT VERY PUBLIC. I TALKED ABOUT IT IN THE COUNCIL MINUTE. I KNOW IT WAS IT WAS A TOPIC OF CONVERSATION SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WAS THE CASE. I THINK MR. URBAN BROUGHT UP WHY NOT USE BLOOMINGTON STADIUM THE REASON BLOOMINGTON STADIUM IS NOT BEING USED ANYMORE IS BECAUSE THAT THE FOLKS WHO OWN THE BUILDING AND THE PARKING LOT DON'T WANT US PARKING THERE ANYMORE. THEY DIDN'T WANT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT PARKING THERE ANYMORE WHICH IS WHY THE NEW STADIUMS WERE BUILT AT EACH OF THE SCHOOLS BECAUSE IT WAS AN UNTENABLE SITUATION THERE. SO TO TO THINK THAT MIGHT BE A SPOT FOR A COMMUNITY HEALTH AND WELLNESS CENTER OBVIOUSLY WOULDN'T WORK IF THEY'RE NOT GOING TO ALLOW PARKING FOR A STADIUM, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO ALLOW PARKING FOR A COMMUNITY HEALTH AND WELLNESS CENTER. WHAT WERE SOME OF THE OTHER SPECIFIC KIND OF THINGS MR. HIT MAKER TALKING ABOUT NO PLAN. THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE DOING TONIGHT IS THE THE THE PRELIMINARY AND FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR THE BUILDING ITSELF. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING TONIGHT IS APPROVING THAT. SO THIS NOTION OF WE DON'T EVEN HAVE A PLAN WILL NO WE DON'T BECAUSE WE'RE APPROVING THAT OR LOOKING AT THAT TONIGHT AND THE NOTION OF ADDING A THIRD GYM WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT SINCE SINCE THE PROJECT WAS SKINNY DOWN FINANCIALLY THAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS ENOUGH ROOM AND THE ABILITY TO ADD A THIRD GYM IF WE NEED A THIRD GYM, IF WE IF WE GO THROUGH WITH THIS TO ADD A THIRD GYM, IF WE NEED THIS THIRD GYM BEYOND THAT COUNCIL I THINK WE COULD TALK ABOUT A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT THINGS AND I'D BE HAPPY TO TURN IT OVER. WHAT I WILL SAY THAT THE TWO THINGS THAT KIND OF STOOD OUT TO ME FIRST OF ALL WERE THE THE THE DISCUSSION WE HEARD FROM THE ACTUAL RESIDENTS OF NEWTON AVENUE AND WE HEARD SOME GOOD THINGS. IS TRAVIS STILL HERE? YOU'RE DISCUSSION YOU BROUGHT UP THE POINT OF MITIGATION AND I THINK THAT'S A VERY IMPORTANT POINT TO THINK ABOUT BEYOND A BERM BEYOND ANY KIND OF VEGETATION THAT WE MIGHT PLANT, WHAT CAN WE DO TO MITIGATE THE IMPACT ESPECIALLY FOR THOSE FIRST FOUR HOUSES AS THEY COME IN OFF OF OFF OF 98TH STREET? I THINK THAT WAS THAT WAS ONE OF THE MORE SENSIBLE THINGS THAT I HEARD SOMEBODY BRING FORWARD THAT NOTION WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THAT TO TRY AND MAKE THAT THE MOST USABLE AND THE MOST WORKABLE TO HEAR OTHER OTHER IDEAS FROM OUR THE NEIGHBORS WHO ACTUALLY LIVE ON NEWTON AVENUE IN MY MIND COUNCIL THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO CONSIDER. WE REALLY NEED TO CONSIDER THE NEIGHBORS ON AN AVENUE AND TO FIND A WAY TO TO MAKE THIS TENABLE, TO MAKE THIS WORKABLE FOR THE FOLKS WHO ARE GOING TO BE MOST DIRECTLY IMPACTED BY ALL. AND I HOPE THAT'S WHAT WE TAKE AWAY FROM THIS CONVERSATION AND THIS PRESENTATION AND A LOT OF WHAT WE HEARD TONIGHT I THINK THE VAST MAJORITY OF OTHER THINGS THAT WE HEARD FROM FOLKS ARE PEOPLE WHO SIMPLY DON'T WANT A COMMUNITY CENTER AND WE'VE HEARD THAT AND I GET THAT AND I APPRECIATED IT AND THEY THEY BROUGHT UP POINTS AND THEY BROUGHT UP ARGUMENTS AGAINST THE HEALTH AND WELLNESS CENTER, THE COMMUNITY CENTER. WE HEARD THOSE WE HEARD THOSE DURING THE CAMPAIGN AND ULTIMATELY 56% OF BLOOMINGTON RESIDENTS SAID YES, THEY WANTED TO HEALTH AND WELLNESS CENTER AND I THINK WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT AND RESPECT THAT AND TO TO TO THINK ABOUT THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE RATHER THAN THE COMMUNITY THAT THAT WE'RE HEARING FROM SPECIFICALLY TONIGHT BECAUSE WE HEARD FROM THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE LAST NOVEMBER TO NOVEMBER A GOAL WHENEVER WE HEARD THAT AND THAT WE WANTED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH ALL OF THIS. BEYOND THAT I THINK THERE ARE STILL DETAILS TO COME THROUGH HERE THAT WE STILL HAVE TO WORK THROUGH SOME SPECIFICS. THE NOTION OF THE TRAFFIC STUDIES I TEND TO LEAN TOWARD OUR THE EXPERTS IN THIS AREA I DON'T KNOW TRAFFIC. I DON'T KNOW IT AND DON'T KNOW THAT I WOULD EXPECT NEIGHBORS WHO DON'T NECESSARILY LIVE THERE TO KNOW TRAFFIC. I WOULD I WOULD TAKE THE WORD OF THE EXPERTS THAT WE PAY MONEY THAT WE ASK TO DO THESE STUDIES TO TO BRING THIS FORWARD DECENT RECOMMENDATIONS. AND I THINK WHEN WE STOP DOING THAT WE GET OURSELVES IN A LOT OF TROUBLE. I THINK IF WE START CONSIDERING OURSELVES THE FOLKS WHO KNOW I DON'T CARE WHETHER IT'S TRAFFIC OR OR DECIMAL MEASURES OR OR POLLUTION MEASURES OR ANYTHING ALONG THOSE LINES THOSE ARE MY INITIAL THOUGHTS AFTER HEARING SOME GOOD FEEDBACK FROM PEOPLE AND LISTENING TO IT AND LIKE YOUR THOUGHTS AS WELL. COUNCIL WHY DON'T WE START WITH COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN AND THEN GO WITH COUNCILMEMBER CARTER? COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN THANK YOU MAYOR. YOU KNOW, I JUST I REALLY WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOU KNOW, MY DEEPEST CONCERN REALLY IS ABOUT THOSE FOLKS THAT ARE ON NEWTON AVENUE AND HOW WE CAN MITIGATE ANY POTENTIAL FUTURE BUILDING THERE. I MEAN THE THING THAT REALLY STICKS OUT TO ME IS YOU KNOW, THIS IDEA OF YOU KNOW, WHEN I FIRST GOT THERE I COULD LOOK OUT OF MY WINDOW AND I SAW A PARK AND NOW I'M GOING TO SEE A PARKING LOT. I MEAN THAT WAS VERY VISUAL TO ME IN TERMS OF THAT. AND YOU SEE ALL THESE CARS THAT ARE PARKED THERE AND THAT THAT AREA YOU KNOW AND THEN YOU KNOW, AS I KIND OF, YOU KNOW, WORK MY WAY THROUGH, THE QUESTION THAT I KIND OF HAVE IS YOU KNOW, I THINK ABOUT SOME OF THAT HISTORICAL STUFF THAT WAS BROUGHT FORWARD BY ONE OF OUR RESIDENTS ABOUT ONE OF THE INSTITUTIONS IN MY DISTRICT, ONE OF THE VERY FIRST QUESTIONS THAT WAS WAS ASKED OF ME WAS WHAT DID I THINK ABOUT THAT? AND YOU KNOW YOU KNOW THAT RESIDENT BROUGHT FORTH THE HISTORY OF THAT PARTICULAR INSTITUTION IN THAT PARTICULAR THING WAS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, VOLUME AND AND SO WHEN WE YOU KNOW THAT COUNCIL AT THAT POINT IN TIME PUT SOMETHING OUT THERE TO REALLY KIND OF YOU KNOW, KIND OF REALLY YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE THAT FUTURE COUNCILS REMEMBER THE IMPORTANCE OF THAT VOLUME MITIGATION. AND SO I DON'T THINK THAT WE CAN YOU KNOW, CAN CAN WORK THROUGH HOW TO MITIGATE THAT HERE TONIGHT. I JUST DON'T THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN CAN REALLY DO AND I DO THINK WE REALLY DO NEED TO DO THAT AND YOU KNOW I THINK MY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBER THAT BROUGHT FORWARD THE FACT THAT THAT STAFF HAS WORKED TO WORK THIS PROCESS DOWN FROM YOU KNOW, THE ORIGINAL AMOUNT DOWN TO WHERE IT IS TODAY STILL YOU KNOW, FOR THOSE FOLKS WHO SAY THAT THEY DON'T AGREE WITH THE TRAFFIC STUDY, WELL YOU KNOW, THESE TRAFFIC PROFESSIONALS SAID THAT VIOLATED OUR CODES. THEY SAID THAT AND YOU KNOW THE LAST THING THEY SAID WAS IT'S KIND OF UP TO US TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT REALLY WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE AND SO SO YOU CAN'T HAVE IT BOTH WAYS. YOU CAN'T SAY THAT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. AND THEN THERE'S A CONTRADICTION AND I THINK WE REALLY DO NEED TO LISTEN TO OUR TRAFFIC FOLKS. I PART OF MY STUDY IS THAT URBAN PLANNING WAS AROUND TRANSPORTATION AND I KNOW THAT THAT FOLKS DON'T WANT TO WANT TO BELIEVE THAT THOSE FOLKS WHO STUDY THAT AND TO A DEEPER DEGREE THAN WHAT I HAVE. BUT I THINK WE REALLY DO NEED TO TRUST THOSE THOSE NUMBERS AND THOSE FIGURES THAT ARE THERE. THEY'VE HAD A VERY DAUNTING AND A CHALLENGING PROCESS BECAUSE THEY WERE TRYING TO COME UP WITH NUMBERS AS THE PROJECT WAS CHANGING TO TRY TO MEET THE ISSUES THAT WE SAW OUR REAL TIME. AND SO I DO APPRECIATE THE HARD WORK THAT THEY DID TO TRY TO GET THAT ACCOMPLISHED. YOU KNOW WHERE I'M AT TODAY ON THIS MAYOR I JUST I AM REALLY STRUGGLING. HOW DO WE MIGATE THIS IN A REASONABLE MANNER FOR THOSE FOLKS THAT ARE ON NEWTON AVENUE AND I THINK YOU KNOW THAT I FULLY SUPPORT THE COMMUNITY CENTER YOU KNOW YOU KNOW DEFINITELY IN KNOW THE 56% IS OUT THERE BUT JUST IN A SURVEY THAT WE HAD THIS YEAR OF 2025, THE REPORTS INDICATE THAT 83% OF BLOOMINGTON RESIDENTS RATED RECREATIONAL CENTERS OR FACILITIES AS ESSENTIAL OR VERY IMPORTANT TO THE COMMUNITIES LIVABILITY JUST IN THAT LAST SURVEY AND OF COURSE THEY ALSO TALKED ABOUT OTHER RECREATIONAL THINGS TO BE FULLY TRANSPARENT. SO YOU KNOW, WE'RE REALLY IN A IN A TRICKY POSITION HERE THAT WE FIND OURSELVES IN. I THINK WE'VE GOT TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO SUPPORT THOSE THINGS THAT 83% AND 56% REALLY WANTED TO HAVE IN THIS COMMUNITY AND I KNOW FOLKS SAY WE'VE GOT TO MOVE IT HERE. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE IT THERE. YOU KNOW THIS ISN'T MY FIRST SITE. I REALLY WANTED IT AT VALLEY VIEW. I THOUGHT THAT WAS A MUCH BETTER EXPERIENCE AND I HAVE TO SAY WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE IT THERE. I TOOK THE VOTE TO MAKE SURE IT WASN'T THERE. WE TOOK A VOTE THERE. SO THIS IS THE SITE NOW REALLY THE QUESTION IS WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO FOR THOSE FOLKS THAT ARE ON NEWTON AVENUE? I DON'T THINK WE CAN DO THAT TONIGHT AND SOLVE THAT THAT PROBLEM TONIGHT. BUT I WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT I PLEDGE THAT I WILL WORK AS HARD TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT TO BE ABLE TO TO FIGURE OUT A WAYS IN WHICH THAT WE CAN MITIGATE THAT. AND TO ME MITIGATION IS NOT TRAFFIC CALMING. I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THE COUNCIL AND STAFF KNOW I THINK WE REALLY NEED A REDUCTION VOLUME AND WE NEED TO HAVE WAYS IN WHICH THAT THOSE FOLKS THAT LIVE IN THAT THAT PARTICULAR AREA HAVE OPTIONS AND I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT. THERE'S SO MANY OTHER THINGS I COULD SAY BUT I KNOW WE'RE LIMITED ON TIME HERE AND I WANT TO BE SURE THAT WE'RE ABLE TO TO GET ANOTHER FOLKS. SO I'LL STOP THERE. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER COUNCIL MEMBER CARTER AND THEN COUNCIL MEMBER ALESSANDRA THANK YOU MAYOR. I WILL TRY TO BE QUICK. I ACTUALLY DO HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS SO OKAY SO THERE WAS ONE FROM A COMMENTER AROUND SNOW REMOVAL AND I'M JUST WONDERING IF STAFF COULD SPEAK TO THE PLANS FOR SNOW REMOVAL IF WE HAVE THOSE YET WILL WE HAVE TO HAUL SNOW OFF OF THE PROPERTY OR WILL THERE BE EXTRA OR MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS I DO NOT BELIEVE HAULING WOULD BE NECESSARY FOR THE SITE PLAN YOU KNOW ONE THING YOU CANNOT SEE ON THE PLAN HERE IT'S IN TWO DIMENSIONS ARE AGAIN GOING I MENTIONED THAT CENTRAL CENTRAL SPINE THAT WOULD ACTUALLY BE DEPRESSED THAT IS JUST A ONE LONG LINEAR AREA FOR SNOW STORAGE BUT THEN ANOTHER AREAS ADJACENT TO THE DRIVE LANES ARE GREENSPACES THAT CAN BE USED FOR THAT ARE GOING TO USE FOR STORMWATER MANAGEMENT BUT THOSE ALSO MAKE REALLY GOOD PLACES FOR SNOW. ANOTHER CHANGE TO THE PLAN WAS ALONG AN AVENUE WHERE THAT ACCESS WAS ON THEIR PREVIOUS ITERATION BECAUSE THAT PAVEMENT WAS REMOVED FROM THE PLAN. AGAIN THAT'S ANOTHER SIGNIFICANT SPACE THAT CAN BE USED FOR SNOW STORAGE IN ADDITION IS AREAS IN THE SOUTH OF THE SITE AT THE END OF THE PARKING LOT PLOWS LIKE TO DRIVE IN STRAIGHT LINES. THERE ARE GREEN SPACES FOR SNOW STORAGE THERE SO YOU HAVE THE FOLLOWING WILL BE NECESSARY. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND THEN ONE OTHER THING I WANTED TO ASK ABOUT DURING THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING THEY TALKED ABOUT THE VERY SOUTHERN PART OF THE PARKING LOT POTENTIALLY BEING KEPT AS GREEN SPACE. AND CAN YOU JUST TALK MORE ABOUT THAT AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S REALLY SUPER RELEVANT TO WHAT WE HAVE TO VOTE ON TONIGHT IF IT'S SUPER IMPORTANT FOR US TO KIND OF DETERMINE OR FIGURE OUT BUT THAT WAS THAT WAS ONE THING I WAS CURIOUS ABOUT AS RELATES TO LIKE THE REQUIRED PARKING AND WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO KEEP IT GREEN SPACE UNLESS WE DECIDED LIKE WE DO NEED MORE PARKING? SURE, MR. MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS YEAH. THE THE CONCEPT IS WE CALL IT PROOF OF PARKING. IT'S WHERE YOU HAVE A PLAN WHERE YOU COULD HAVE CODE COMPLIANT PARKING AND IN THIS CASE THAT THE YOU KNOW, THE MOST LOGICAL AREA FOR PROOF OF PARKING IS THIS SOUTHERN LOST APPENDAGE ON THE SITE THERE ARE 71 STALLS THERE AND A COUPLE OF THE PLANNING COMMISSIONERS BELIEVE THAT PROOF OF PARKING WOULD WOULD BE A GOOD OPTION GIVEN WHAT THE TRAFFIC AND PARKING SO WE THOUGHT WOULD BE THE TYPICAL DEMAND FOR THE FACILITY AND SO AN OPTION WOULD BE TO REMOVE THAT PARKING AND HAVE IT AS FUTURE POTENTIAL FUTURE. WE KNOW WHAT CAN BE DONE BUT IT WOULDN'T HAPPEN WITH THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE FACILITY WHEN THE BUILDING WOULD BE BUILT AND THE PARKING EVERYTHING. YOU KNOW THERE THERE ARE PROS AND CONS OF COURSE I THINK YOU KNOW THE IT WOULD DROP DOWN THE PARKING CONSIDERABLY FROM 320 TO ACTUALLY HAVE A I DO HAVE A SLIDE RELATED TO PROOF THAT I'LL BRING UP SO WE DID ASK THE DESIGNERS TO PREPARE YOU KNOW THIS ISN'T AN ENGINEER DRAWING IT'S JUST WHAT THE SITE WOULD LOOK LIKE IF YOU WERE TO REMOVE THOSE 71 STALLS AND THEN JUST ADD THE PARKING THAT COULD BE THAT COULD BE ADDED AND IT WOULD DROP THE TOTAL SUPPLY FROM 322 TO 263. SO FROM A DAY TO DAY PERSPECTIVE WE YOU KNOW, BASED ON THE RESULTS OF THE STUDY AND JUST GENERAL OBSERVATION OF HOW THESE TYPES OF FACILITIES OPERATE, THIS WOULD HANDLE THE TYPICAL DAY TO DAY OPERATIONS. BUT WE DISCUSSED THIS FURTHER WITH THE DESIGN TEAM PARKS AND REC STAFF WHO DO KNOW HOW THIS FACILITY IS INTENDED TO OPERATE, WHAT SORT OF SPECIAL EVENTS THEY INTEND TO HAVE HERE AND THEY FELT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO ACTUALLY BUILD THE ENTIRE PARKING LOT, YOU KNOW, AS ONE OVERALL PROJECT THEY FELT THAT THE 263 STALLS THAT THERE COULD BE SOME PARKING CHALLENGES FOR THEIR LARGER EVENTS. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THAT EXPLANATION. I WAS VERY CURIOUS ABOUT IT AND I DO THINK THAT THE RATIONALE THAT YOU GAVE FOR KEEPING IT PARKING MAKES SENSE . YOU KNOW, I THINK AS WE CONTINUE TO HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS, IF THERE IS ANY WAY THAT WE COULD POTENTIALLY KEEP IT GREEN SPACE, I THINK THAT WOULD BE WONDERFUL FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD BUT ALSO KNOW THAT IT'S PROBABLY MORE COST EFFECTIVE IF WE'RE GOING TO IF IT'S EVENTUALLY GOING TO BE PARKING TO JUST DO IT ALL NOW VERSUS WAITING IN 5 OR 10 YEARS WHEN WE REALIZE WE NEED MORE PARKING. SO THAT IS ALL THE QUESTIONS I WILL ASK. I DID WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT RELATED TO SOME OF THE COMMENTS WE HEARD DURING THE PUBLIC TESTIMONY RELATED TO SORRY IT'S FREEZING IN HERE. I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY ELSE IS FREEZING BUT I'M JUST LIKE UP HERE FREEZING THE FACT THAT THIS IDEA THAT THE VOTERS OF BLOOMINGTON WERE SOLD ONE IDEA AND NOW THEY'RE GETTING SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. I JUST WANT TO SAY I FUNDAMENTALLY DISAGREE WITH THAT THE VOTERS WERE NOT PROMISED A SPECIFIC SIZED BUILDING OR YOU KNOW, IT WAS A VERY GENERAL IDEA AND WE HAD A WEBSITE THAT WAS VERY INFORMATIVE. WE HAD LOTS OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND SO THE IDEA THAT WE YOU KNOW, STARTED OFF WITH A BIGGER BUILDING AND WE'VE REDUCED IT IN SIZE AND WE'VE CONTINUED TO MODIFY I MEAN THA IS EXACTLY WHAT WE SAID WE WERE GOING TO DO. AND SO I JUST I WANTED TO SAY THAT OUT LOUD AND WE HAVE PRESERVED THE AMENITIES THAT WE'VE SAID WE WERE GOING TO HAVE WHEN THE VOTERS OF BLOOMINGTON VOTED ON IT. SO WITH THAT I DO WANT TO ECHO MY COLLEAGUES IN COUNCIL. I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT TO WORK WITH THE NEIGHBORS OF THE NEWTON NEIGHBORHOOD NOT JUST ON THE TRAFFIC MITIGATION PIECES BUT AND ALL OF THE OTHER PIECES AND THE CONCERNS THAT THEY BROUGHT UP. SO I WOULD HOPE THAT STAFF IS PLANNING ON WORKING WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD VERY CLOSELY. YOU KNOW, IT'S IT'S ACTUALLY LOOKING AT THE ZONING MAP. I MEAN YOU GUYS ARE IN A REALLY CHALLENGING SPOT, RIGHT? YOUR YOUR SITE IS INDUSTRIAL. YOU GOT PUBLIC LAND. YOU HAVE MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL AND THEN YOU HAVE CIVIC PLAZA ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE BLOCK, RIGHT? IT'S KIND OF A WE IT'S LIKE A UNIQUE KIND OF WEIRD RESIDENTIAL AREA AND SO I THINK IT'S JUST IT'S A REALLY CHALLENGING SPACE AND SO I REALLY I HOPE THAT WE CAN DO THINGS THAT MAKE YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU KNOW, STILL VIBRANT AND HEALTHY AND WONDERFUL FOR YOU. I KNOW SOME OF YOU ARE WORRIED ABOUT REDUCTION IN YOUR HOME VALUES. THE RESEARCH I DID BEFORE THIS WAS SHOWING THAT THINGS LIKE COMMUNITY CENTERS IMPROVE HOME VALUES IN ADJACENT PROPERTIES. AND SO YOU KNOW I KNOW WE ALL EXCUSE ME WE LISTEN TO YOU I THINK IT'S TIME FOR US TO SPEAK UP HERE. THANK YOU. AND THEN I ALSO WANTED TO EMPHASIZE THE NEED TO ENHANCE PEDESTRIAN AND BIKE INFRASTRUCTURE AROUND THE COMMUNITY CENTER NOT JUST FOR NEW NEIGHBORHOOD BUT I THINK ABOUT PEOPLE WHO MIGHT LIVE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF PENN WHO WANT TO WALK TO THE COMMUNITY CENTER. YOU KNOW, UNFORTUNATELY WE JUST DO NOT HAVE GREAT IT'S NOT IT DOESN'T FEEL VERY SAFE TO BIKING ESPECIALLY BIKE AROUND BLOOMINGTON. AND SO WHATEVER WE CAN DO TO ENHANCE THE PEDESTRIAN FACILITIES AROUND THIS AREA, I THINK WE SHOULD DO IT AND YOU GO TO OTHER CITIES AND THEY DON'T JUST DO WHITE CROSSWALKS. THEY ADD LIKE THE NEON GREEN ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO I THINK WE NEED TO DO IT. AND THEN THE LAST THING I WILL SAY IS I LIKED THE IDEAS FOR CONTINUING TO THINK ABOUT HOW WE CAN MAKE THE BUILDING MORE GREEN LIKE THE GREEN ROOF. SO AS MUCH AS WE CAN EXPLORE THOSE OPPORTUNITIES I THINK THEY'D BE A GREAT IDEA. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER BEFORE WE GET TO YOU COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO WE ARE AT 10:00. I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION TO SUSPEND OUR COUNCIL RULES AND SET A DEADLINE OF 11:00 TO SEE IF WE MAKE THAT ONE AND SUSPEND OUR COUNCIL RULES EXTEND UNTIL 11:00 SO WE CAN CONTINUE OUR BUSINESS. SECOND MOTION IN A SECOND TO SUSPEND COUNCIL RULES AND EXTE THIS MEETING UNTIL 11:00. NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSED THANK YOU FOR THAT BECAUSE WE NEEDED UNANIMOUS CONSENT TO DO THAT SO SO ONE OF YOU COULD HAVE DERAILED EVERYTHING. THAT'S WHY I DIDN' SAY ANYTHING. COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. AND THANKS TO EVERYBODY WHO'S CONTINUING TO STICK IT OUT WITH US TONIGHT. THIS IS A LOT TO GET THROUGH AND YOU KNOW IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE'RE PAYING ATTENTION AND SO I APPRECIATE THE DECORUM AND APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR US ALL TO TAKE ON THE INFORMATION. SO I HAVE A COUPLE COMMENTS. I THINK IT'S I THINK IT'S SUPER IMPORTANT YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND COMPLETELY WHY PEOPLE WHO, YOU KNOW, THINK THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD IS BEING IMPACTED WOULD BE UPSET. SO I UNDERSTAND THAT AND I WANT TO BE RESPECTFUL OF THAT . I WANT TO ASK TO CONTINUE TO DO EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN. BUT AND I AND I THINK THAT THOSE LIKE THAT IS NOT RELATED TO FACTS. RIGHT? THAT'S RELATED TO EMOTION AND YOUR FEELING OF COMFORT AND SAFETY AND HAPPINESS AND WE NEED TO BE DOING EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN. THERE I DO WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE SOME FACTS BECAUSE I THINK I THINK I HEARD SOME ADDITIONAL THINGS TONIGHT THAT I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GET THE RECORD STRAIGHT ON FIRST THING SENIOR PROGRAMING IS NOT GOING AWAY ACTUALLY THEY'RE ADDING A BUNCH OF COOL STUFF AND OVER 90% OF THE SENIOR PROGRAMING THAT EXISTS TODAY WILL CONTINUE TO EXIST IN THE NEW FACILITY. I THINK THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT. WE CONSTANTLY HEAR THAT OUR SENIORS ARE GOING TO BE IMPACTED NEGATIVELY BY THIS AND WHILE THE SPACE THAT THEY'RE OPERATING IN IS CHANGING, STAFF IS WORKING INCREDIBLY HARD TO MAKE SURE THAT THE THINGS THAT THEY COME TO KNOW AND LOVE ARE THERE. AND SO I FEEL REALLY, REALLY STRONGLY ABOUT COUNTERACTING THE RUMORS OUT THERE ABOUT THAT WHEN WE KNOW THAT THAT'S JUST NOT THE CASE. SECONDLY, PUBLIC TRANSIT WE HEARD PEOPLE THINK THAT THERE'S ONLY ONE ROUTE THERE'S ACTUALLY TWO ACTUALLY THE OTHER VERY COOL THING THAT JUST HAPPENED AND I'LL JUST 16TH WAS THAT WE LAUNCHED METRO MICROSERVICE PILOT HERE IN BLOOMINGTON WITH METRO TRANSIT. IT'S DOOR TO DOOR SERVICE IN THE PILOT AREA. THE PILOT AREA ACTUALLY INCLUDES THE SPACE. SO EVEN EVEN THOUGH WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO EXPAND IT ACROSS BLOOMINGTON, IF YOU ARE WITHIN THE PILOT ZONE RIGHT NOW YOU CAN TAKE A DOOR TO DOOR SERVICE VERY SIMILAR TO AN UBER BUT AT RATES SIMILAR TO METRO TRANSIT NOT UBER RATES. SO $5 ROUNDTRIP TO GET TO AND FROM A PLACE WITHIN THE SERVICE AREA. IT'S REALLY I'M GOING TO DEFER TO COUNCILMEMBER NELSON BECAUSE I DON'T LIVE IN THIS PILOT AREA. I'M A MAJOR ADVOCATE AND I DON'T EVEN GET TO USE IT. BUT COUNCILMEMBER NELSON DID SO IF YOU EVER WANT TO HEAR WHAT HIS STORY WAS ABOUT LIKE HOW IT WORKED FOR HIM ON THE FIRST DAY OF TRANSIT TRAVEL THAT'D BE GREAT. BUT I WE ARE CONTINUALLY WORKING TO MAKE SURE THERE'S MORE TRANSIT AND I FULLY AGREE WITH COUNCILMEMBER CARTER WE DON'T HAVE A GOOD BIKE INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE CITY AND I CONTINUE TO TRY TO SUPPORT THAT AND WE'LL DO THAT. BUT WE DO HAVE BETTER PUBLIC TRANSIT TODAY THAN WE DID EVEN WHEN THIS THING WAS STARTED AND WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO WORK ON IT. I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR PEOPLE TO ACTUALLY UNDERSTAND. THIRDLY, YOU KNOW, I DO HAVE SOME FACTS AND I'D BE VERY HAPPY TO TO SIT DOWN AND TALK WITH ANYBODY BECAUSE I DID A STUDY FOR MYSELF THAT THAT LOOKED AT ALL OF THE LOOKED AT PROPERTIES ACROSS THE STREET FROM OTHER COMMUNITY CENTERS FROM THE TIME THEY WERE BUILT TO TODAY AND IN EVERY SINGLE CASE THE HOUSING PRICES HAVE RISEN AND I HAVE THE FACTS SO PLEASE DON'T TELL ME THAT I'M LYING. I HAVE THE FACTS. I CAN PROVE IT TO YOU AND I CAN SHOW IT TO YOU. AND WHETHER YOU'RE TALKING DINAH SHORE VIEW ST LOUIS PARK MAPLEWOOD CHASKA ROSEVILLE ANY OF THOSE IT'S TRUE I'M NOT TELLING YOU THAT BECAUSE I THINK THAT YOU SHOULD BELIEVE THAT FOR YOURSELF. I UNDERSTAND. LIKE I SAID, MY HOUSE IS DIFFERENT THAN EVERY OTHER HOUSE EVER THAT EXISTED. RIGHT? MY HOUSE IS GOING TO BE DIFFERENT AND I COMPLETELY GET THAT. BUT I WOULD LIKE US TO AT LEAST UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S VERY LIKELY THAT FIVE YEARS FROM NOW WHEN THIS THING IS THERE THAT WON'T BE THE CASE BECAUSE IT HAS BEEN PROVEN EVERYWHERE ELSE THAT THIS HAS HAPPENED TO RESIDENTS AND I'M TELLING YOU IT'S LITERALLY ACROSS THE STREET. I'M NOT LOOKING AT PLACES THAT ARE A MILE AWAY OR WHATEVER BUT ACROSS THE STREET FROM THESE SUBURBAN REC CENTERS THAT THEY ARE THEY HAVE NOT HAD THE PROBLEMS. THAT DOESN'T MEAN YOU SHOULD BELIEVE ME BUT I CAN AT LEAST GIVE YOU THE FACTS AND THEN MAYBE YOU CAN SAY TO YOURSELF, OH WELL MAYBE IT WON'T BE SO BAD IF YOU DON'T WANT TO DO THAT. THAT'S A COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND AGAIN, LIKE I SAID IT IS IS EMOTIONAL QUESTION IT'S NOT A FUNCTION OF FACT. SO I GET IT. I'M NOT GOING TO CONVINCE PEOPLE BUT IT IS IMPORTANT. THE OTHER THING TO NOTE IS THAT IF YOU DO WANT TO SELL YOUR HOUSE THE AVERAGE THE AVERAGE TIME MARKET FOR THAT IS A HOUSE IS ON THE MARKET THESE DAYS. RIGHT NOW IN THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON IS 16 DAYS SO THAT WILL ACTUALLY NOT NECESSARILY BE IMPACTED EITHER AS FAR AS I CAN TELL. MR. MAYOR, I'M GOING TO I KNOW THAT WE ARE JUST TALKING ABOUT CHANGES TO THE PLATS. THAT'S OUR FOCUS FOR TONIGHT AND I I THINK THAT THAT DOES NOT OUR VOTES TONIGHT DO NOT DO ANYTHING TO MITIGATE THE PROBLEMS THAT OUR NEIGHBORS IN NEWTON AVENUE ARE EXPERIENCING AND WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO DO THE WORK ON THAT. BUT SINCE THAT'S THE VOTE TONIGHT, I'M GOING TO SUPPORT IT. ONE OTHER THING I WOULD LIKE AND I DON'T KNOW MR. MAYOR, IF YOU WOULD WOULD AGREE WITH THIS OR NOT OR IF YOU WANTED TO DO THIS. BUT I KNOW ONE OF THE FOLKS THAT SPOKE TONIGHT PUT UP A SURVEY OF A 23 SURVEY AND I'VE NEVER SEEN THAT DATA BEFORE AND I DON'T THINK IT'S A CITY DATA THING. SO I WOULD LOVE TO GET THAT IF WE COULD ASK FOR SOME SOURCING MATERIALS FOR THAT THAT WOULD BE GREAT BECAUSE I WOULD BE VERY INTERESTED IN UNDERSTANDING WHERE THAT CAME FROM. THAT'S IT FOR ME. THANK YOU. THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER AND FOR THE RECORD COUNCIL MEMBER WE ARE WE WILL VOTE ON AMENDING THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OR REZONING THE SORRY I SAID PLATFORM PLANS AND THE PRELIMINARY PLAT. YES YES WE WILL DO PLAT WORK. THANK YOU TO COME IN THERE COUNCILMEMBER NELSON. YEAH THANK YOU MAYOR. I'LL BE QUICK AND BRIEF HERE. I'M JUST WONDERING BASED ON WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT APPROVING TONIGHT WITH THE PLANS, HOW DOES THE PROCESS WORK TO WORK WITH FOLKS ON NEWTON AVENUE TO WORK TOWARDS THAT MITIGATION? WHAT DOES THAT PROCESS LOOK LIKE? WHO'S INVOLVED IN IT? HOW QUICKLY CAN WE GET THAT GOING SO THAT WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AND SEE WHAT CAN BE DONE THERE TO ADDRESS THE CONCERNS AND MAKE IT WORK. AND IT'S A GOOD QUESTION. COUNCILMEMBER NELSON AND I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE ABSOLUTELY HAVE AN ANSWER. I'M NOT SEEING ANYBODY JUMPING UP HERE WITH THEIR ANSWER OTHER THAN I THINK THE COMMITMENT THAT WE'RE HEARING FROM THE COUNCIL AS A WHOLE THAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE FIND A MITIGATION PLAN OF SOME KIND THAT WILL WORK FOR THE RESIDENTS OF NEWTON AVENUE AND WHAT THAT MEANS I DON'T KNOW RIGHT NOW. SO I GUESS MAKE IT GETS TO CLARIFY MY QUESTION TOO IS HOW DOES THAT IMPACT THE DECISION ON THE THE PLAN THE THE BUILDING PLAN, MR. MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS YOU KNOW THERE'S A NUMBER OF VERY TALENTED DESIGNERS THAT HAVE PUT TOGETHER THIS PLAN AND I BELIEVE THEY THEY WOULD BE PART OF THAT PROCESS. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT EXACTLY THAT MITIGATION WILL LOOK LIKE RIGHT NOW BUT YOUR DIRECTION IS LOUD AND CLEAR AND WHAT YOU THAT YOU'D LIKE TO SEE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE BENEFIT OF THOSE OF THOSE NEIGHBORS . OKAY. WITH THAT, COUNCILMEMBER, LET ME JUST QUICK FOLLOW UP ON THAT BECAUSE I MEAN THE THIRD MOTION IS TO APPROVE PRELIMINARY AND FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLANS SO THEY COME BACK REVISED OR ONCE WE APPROVE THEM, YOU KNOW, HOW DO THEY GET MODIFIED BASED ON THIS INPUT? THAT'S THE JUST THE PROCESS PART THAT I WANT TO CLARITY ON BEFORE I VOTE ON IT. SO MR. MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS ,IF YOU TAKE FINAL ACTIO ON THE PLANS TONIGHT WOULDN'T NECESSARILY I'M NOT SURE THERE WOULDN'T BE A TRIGGER TO AUTOMATICALLY BRING PLANS BACK TO YOU. HOWEVER, I YOU'LL BE WELCOME TO DIRECT STAFF TO TO COME BACK AND DISCUSS WHAT THE DESIGNERS HAVE COME UP WITH. SO YOU'RE SAYING IT WOULDN'T A AN APPROVAL OF THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLANS PRELIMINARY OR FINAL DEVELOPMENTS WOULDN'T PRECLUDE CHANGES IN THOSE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLANS? THAT'S CORRECT BECAUSE MEMBERS WITH VIRTUALLY EVERY PROJECT FROM THE TIME SOMETHING GETS APPROVED TO THE TIME OF BUILDING PERMITS ISSUED, THERE'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE SOME MODIFICATION TO THE PLAN AND IT COULD BE VERY SMALL LIKE A TREE THAT THEY THOUGHT THEY WANTED TO PLANT WASN'T AVAILABLE OR THERE WAS A BUILDING CODE CONSIDERATION THAT REQUIRED SOME SORT OF MODIFICATION THAT'S UNIVERSAL. THAT SAID WE WILL FOLLOW YOUR DIRECTION SAID HELP COUNCIL MEMBER YEAH, THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS. I JUST WANT TO ECHO WHAT HE'S GOT. HE HAD THE ANSWER YOU CAN COME BACK AND GIVE US THE ANSWER. PARDON ME, MARY. I KNOW IT'S BEEN A LONG EVENING. JOHNSON PLANNING MANAGER I THINK THE REASON WHY NO ONE IS JUMPING UP TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION SO QUICKLY IS THAT IT'S A QUESTION THAT MIGHT HAVE MULTIPLE OWNERS SO YOU HAVE THAT AT THE DISTINCT PRIVATE PROPERTY AND THAT'S WHAT THE PRELIMINARY AND FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLANS ARE SPEAKING TO. AND MIKE'S CORRECT THE PLANS DO CHANGE AND VERY NUANCED OR MODEST WAYS WHEN THEY ACTUALLY GET TO THE BUILDING PERMIT HAPPENS EVERY DEVELOPMENT WE'VE EVER WORKED ON THERE'S THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY. THERE'S NEWTON AVENUE ITSELF. THERE'S THE ROADS AROUND THE SITE THAT'S SUBJECT TO THE AUTHORITY OF THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT AND THE CITY WRIT LARGE. SO IN TERMS OF WHAT WHO IS THE OWNER OF THE MITIGATION MEASURE, IT DEPENDS ON WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT AND WHERE. AND SO I JUST WANT TO BE VERY PRECISE ON THAT. SOME OF THOSE MITIGATIONS MIGHT BE OPERATIONAL TOO AND THAT'S PARKS AND REC STAFF AND THE STAFF WHO OPERATE THE FACILITY. AND SO IT'S A COMBINATION OF DIFFERENT THINGS AND I THINK THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS CONTINUING TO BE AVAILABLE TO PEOPLE TO HEAR THEIR CONCERNS AND TRY AND REACT. THE GOOD NEWS IS THIS IS PUBLIC PROPERTY. WHEN WORKING WITH PRIVATE DEVELOPERS IT'S MUCH HARDER TO GAIN COMPLIANCE BECAUSE IT MIGHT NOT BE IN THEIR INTEREST TO RESPOND TO A NEIGHBORING PROPERTY OWNERS. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT POINT. THANK YOU, MR. JOHNSON NOW COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS, I JUST WANT TO ECHO WHAT COUNCILMEMBER NELSON SAID, BUT I THINK WE SHOULD INSTEAD OF VOTING TODAY FOR IT, WE SHOULD GIVE THEM THE RECOMMENDATION TO COME BACK WITH SOME SUGGESTIONS TO MITIGATE THE PROBLEMS AND THE RESIDENTS OF MILTON AVENUE SINCE THAT'S THE MAIN CONCERN. AS YOU ALL KNOW I HAVEN'T BEEN A BIG SUPPORTER OF THIS PROJECT FROM THE BEGINNING BUT I DO LIKE THE IDEA OF HAVING THE BUILDING THERE THAT IS BEEN I DO AND I WILL PRODUCE THIS IN THE NEXT MEETING WE HAVE I HAVE A COUPLE OF EMAILS THAT ARE FROM PEOPLE THAT CLAIM TO HAVE VOTED FOR THIS TAX THAT ARE OPPOSING THE BUILDING FOR REASONS THAT THEY PRESENT IN THE EMAILS. SO I WANT TO PRODUCE THOSE HARD COPIES AND DISTRIBUTE THEM AMONGST OURSELVES SO THAT WE CAN LOOK AT IT AND IT'S NOT JUST MYSELF MAKING IT UP. I DO HAVE A LOT OF EMAILS THAT PEOPLE ARE OPPOSING IT FOR THEIR OWN REASONS NOT MY OWN. I LIKE I SAID I LIKE THE IDEA OF HAVING EVEN I LOVE THE IDEA OF BUYING THEIR HOMES AND IN THE FUTURE I HAVE A A CAMPUS THAT YOU KNOW IT'S A IS SOMETHING TO DREAM ABOUT BUT IN THE MEANTIME IF A BUILDING IS GOING TO GO THERE THE WAY IT IS, I BELIEVE THAT WE SHOULD JUST HOLD THIS SEND IT BACK TO STAFF AND THEY CAN COME BACK NEXT WEEK OR TWO WEEKS FROM NOW WITH MITIGATIONS FOR IT TO HELP THE PEOPLE IN NEWTON AVENUE HAVE A BETTER QUALITY OF LIFE ONCE A BUILDING IS UP TO IT. COUNCIL MEMBER COUNCIL MEMBER LOWMAN THANK YOU MAYOR. I MIGHT SUGGEST A DIFFERENT PATHWAY AND I THINK IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE'VE BECOME. SO SOMEONE ELSE AND TALKED ABOUT BUT I THINK WHAT WE HAD TO DO IS WE HAD TO PASS THIS THIS EVENING, MOVE THIS FORWARD BUT YOU KNOW, DIRECT STAFF, YOU KNOW, TO WORK DIRECTLY YOU KNOW, WITH THE NEWTON RESIDENTS TO BRING BACK A A MITIGATION PLAN. YOU KNOW, AT SOME POINT IN TIME I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S REASONABLE FOR THAT BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THAT WE KIND OF KEEP THIS MOVING. THERE'S A TIMELINE THAT STAFF HAS GOT TO GET DONE AND YOU KNOW, I THINK WE'VE GOT SUPPORT HERE TO MOVE THIS FORWARD. SO I THINK THAT THERE'S I THINK WE REALLY OUGHT TO JUST PUT THAT INTO I THINK SOMEONE ELSE AND YOU HAD MENTIONED IN THE THIRD BULLET MAYBE THERE'S A WAY TO PUT THAT IN THERE AND IF FOLKS WANT TO HAVE A TIME CERTAIN OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, I'M OKAY WITH THAT. I JUST I KNOW THAT STAFF'S GOING TO WORK TOWARDS GETTING THAT TO GETTING IT RIGHT AND I THINK THERE'S SOME OF THE THINGS YOU MENTIONED COUNCILMEMBER REAVIS OR SOME THINGS THAT WE COULD YOU KNOW, POSSIBLY LOOK AT FROM A MITIGATION STANDPOINT. BUT I THINK WE REALLY NEED TO MOVE THIS THING FORWARD TONIGHT AND AND BE DIRECTIVE ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT WE TAKE CARE OF THOSE FOLKS THAT ARE ON NEW NEIGHBOR THAT'S JUST ONE COUNCILMEMBERS AND COUNCIL COUNCILMEMBER THAT'S MY MORE THEME HERE UM FIRST I WANT TO THANK EVERYONE FOR SHOWING UP TONIGHT. SINCE THE BEGINNING I HAVE SAID I DROVE AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND I SAID THIS IS A REALLY QUIET NEIGHBORHOOD AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE COMMUNICATING WITH THEM TO UNDERSTAND THE ISSUES THAT CONSTRUCTION ISOING TO BRING, THAT A NEW COMMUNITY CENTER IS GOING TO BRING MORE VOLUME BECAUSE FRANKLY AS A RESIDENT WHO DRIVES UP IN AN OLD CAFE ALL THE TIME I NEVER EVEN KNEW THERE WAS AN ACCESS POINT ON THE SOUTH SIDE UNTIL I DROVE THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD. EVERY TIME I'VE EVER DRIVEN TO CREEKSIDE HAS ALWAYS BEEN ON PENN TECH THAT TURN IN IT'S A LITTLE HASSLE BECAUSE YOU GOT TO GO UP AND THEN OVER TO THE THE PARKING LOT BUT SEEING THAT AND ACTUALLY DRIVING AROUND AND SPENDING TIME IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT'S WHY I HAVE MADE SURE THAT OUR STAFF CONTINUES TO KEEP THAT TOP OF MIND AND I FULLY EXPECT OUR STAFF TO CONTINUE TO DO THAT BECAUSE WORKING WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO FIND REASONABLE MITIGATION IS ESSENTIAL FOR US TO ENSURE THAT THE VOTERS WHICH I DO NOT TAKE LIGHTLY 56.2% SAID THEY WANTED THIS AND THEY VOTED WITH THEIR POCKETS. THIS IS THEIR MONEY AND THAT CANNOT BE DISCOUNTED EITHER. SO I. I FULLY AND TRUST AND EXPECT STAFF TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE NEW NEIGHBORHOOD TO ASSURE THAT MITIGATION WILL BE DONE TO SUPPORT THE COMMUNITY CENTER. AS FAR AS FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY, I THINK WE HAVE DONE EXACTLY THAT. WE PUT TO THE VOTERS THAT THIS WOULD BE $100 MILLION AND WE DIDN'T SAY OH WE ACTUALLY NEED MORE. WE SAID NO. WE SAID $100 MILLION IS WHAT WE'RE COMMITTED TO AND THAT'S WE'RE GOING TO STICK TO AND THAT'S WHY THE BUILDING HAS TO CHANGE. WE WEREN'T WILLING TO GO BACK TO THE VOTERS WEREN'T WILLING TO GO BACK TO RESIDENTS AND SAY THIS IS GOING TO COST YOU MORE. PLEASE GIVE US MORE MONEY. AND I MYSELF PERSONALLY HAVE MADE SURE THAT EVERY SINGLE DOLLAR THAT I SPEND AS MUCH AS I CAN STAYS IN BLOOMINGTON. I DO ALL MY GIRL SHOPPING IN BLOOMINGTON NOW I DO ALL MY SCHOOL SUPPLY SHOPPING VOTING NOW FOR EVERY SINGLE DOLLAR THAT I SPEND COME BACK TO MY COMMUNITY BECAUSE THAT IS WHERE I WANT TO INVEST. MY MONEY ISN'T GOING TO GO TO A DINER TO RICHFIELD BECAUSE I BELIEVE IN THIS COMMUNITY AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT MY DOLLARS SAY THAT AND I SEEN THAT WITH HUNDREDS OF OTHER FAMILIES IN BLOOMINGTON WHO WANT THEIR MONEY TO COME BACK TO BLOOMINGTON WHO ARE TIRED OF GOING TO SHAKOPEE BECAUSE THAT'S THE ONLY POOL WHO ARE TIRED OF GOING TO EAGAN TO IN PRAIRIE TO A DINER BECAUSE THOSE ARE WHERE THE FAMILY PROGRAMING IS BECAUSE WE JUST SIMPLY DON'T HAVE IT HERE. SO AS I CONTINUE TO LOOK AND THINK ON THIS, I KNOW THE IMPACT THAT THIS WILL HAVE AND HOW BUSY IT MIGHT BE BUT I'M COMMITTED TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE RESIDENTS OF NEWTON TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS COMMUNITY CENTER WILL SUPPORT THEM AS MUCH AS THAT THEY ARE SUPPORTING US BY JOINING US AND WORKING TOGETHER TO BUILD THIS COMMUNITY CENTER. SO I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING WHAT ADDITIONAL WORK WE CAN DO KNOWING THAT WE HAVE THAT MITIGATION COMING MOVING THE PROCESS FORWARD SO THAT WE CAN GET TANGIBLE PLANS IN PLACE TO ENSURE THAT WHAT WE'VE COMMITTED TO IS GOING TO BE EXECUTED. THANKS COUNCIL THE CONSENSUS THAT I'M HEARING IS THE CONSENSUS TO MOVE FORWARD IT SOUNDS LIKE ON THIS PROJECT WITH SPECIFIC COUNCIL DIRECTION TO STAFF REGARDING THESE MITIGATION DISCUSSIONS THAT NEED TO TAKE PLACE WITHOUT GETTING INTO SPECIFICS AS TO EXACTLY WHAT THEY ARE BUT THAT WE WE NEED TO CONSIDER THAT AND WE NEED TO CONTINUE MOVING FORWARD THROUGH WITH SPECIFICALLY WITH THE RESIDENTS ON NEWTON AVENUE THE FOLKS THAT THAT WOULD ARE MOST IMPACTED BY THIS. SO THAT'S WHAT I'M HEARING FROM THE COUNCIL AND IF THAT IS THE CASE COUNCIL WE HAVE FOUR DIFFERENT MOTIONS THIS EVENING AND WE NEED TO WE NEED TO GET THROUGH THEM. COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN OR I'D BE HAPPY TO MOVE THAT THROUGH COUNCIL MEMBER IF YOU WANT TO DO THAT HERE. SO MAYOR I'LL MOVE A RESOLUTION AMENDING THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION FOR 9841 PENN AVENUE SOUTH AND 9900 NEWTON AVENUE SOUTH FROM HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL TO PUBLIC. SECOND MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER CARTER TO ADOPT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT FOR FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATIONS FOR 9841 PENN AND 9900 NEWTON AVENUE FROM HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL TO PUBLIC. ANY FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS HEARING? NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO. MAYOR I MOVE AN ORDINANCE REZONING 9801 PENN AVENUE SOUTH FROM R-1 SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL OR ONE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL PLAN DEVELOPMENT AND REZONING OF 9841 AVENUE SOUTH AND 9900 NEWTON AVENUE SOUTH FROM ROOM 24 MULTIPLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL TO R-1 PD SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL PLAN DEVELOPMENT SECOND MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER CARTER TO ADOPT THE ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING REZONING AS STATED NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO COUNCILMEMBER MARIO MOVE TO APPROVE A PRELIMINARY AND FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR AN APPROXIMATELY 106,000 SQUARE FOOT COMMUNITY HEALTH AND WELLNESS CENTER WITH A FUTURE GYM EXPANSION. SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS IN CODE REQUIREMENTS ATTACHED TO THE STAFF REPORT. AND DO WE NEED TO ADD ANYTHING HERE TO COUNCILMEMBER NELSON'S PIECE OR I THINK THAT WILL BE A STAFF DIRECTION AND I'LL OKAY TO PUT THAT OKAY. THAT'S IN THERE. OKAY. WE GOT THAT AND THEN MAYOR AND WHILE WE ARE WE WILL STOP SO I HAVE A QUESTION I WANT TO ASK AFTER THIS SECOND MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN, SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER CARTER TO APPROVE THE PRELIMINARY AND FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLANS. COUNCILMEMBER ALUMINUM QUESTION YEAH. AND SO THEN YOU HAD MENTIONED EARLIER IN TERMS OF THE FOLKS ON NEWTON AVENUE, DO WE NEED TO BE SPECIFIC IN TERMS OF THOSE FOLKS? I THINK AGAIN WAS OUR COUNCIL DIRECTION TO STAFF I THINK IS PRETTY PRETTY CLEAR. OKAY. THAT'S ALL THE QUESTN I HAD. THANKS A LOT MEMBER NELSON THAT JUST A QUICK QUESTION ABOUT THIS MOTION SPECIFICALLY REGARDING THE FUTURE GYM IF POSSIBLE CAN STAFF DO LIKE AN ADD OPTION? I KNOW WE'VE DONE THAT ON OTHER PROJECTS WHERE WE GET THAT PRICE UP FRONT IF THE THING COMES IN SUCH THAT WE COULD AFFORD IT WITHIN THE BUDGET I WOULD NOT MIND DOING THAT AT THIS TIME. IT'S GOING TO BE THE LOWEST COST AND I KNOW WE'VE DONE OTHER PROJECTS WHERE WE HAD ADD OPTION OR ALTERNATIVES OR STEP TO THEM SO IF THAT'S POSSIBLE IT DOESN'T. I THINK ALSO THAT I DON'T KNOW THAT'S PART OF THE MOTION BUT THAT CERTAINLY IS A STAFF DIRECTION. I THINK WE COULD CERTAINLY MAKE THAT. THANK YOU FOR THAT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THIS? COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO SORRY. JUST REALLY QUICKLY I APOLOGIZE IF I'M GOING TO ASK SOMEBODY TO COME UP HERE BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS THERE WERE SUBJECT THERE WORK SPECIFIC CONDITIONS THAT NEEDED TO BE MET. WERE ANY OF THOSE CONDITIONS RELATED TO THE TRAFFIC WORK AND OTHER WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE ON NEWTON AVENUE? I DON'T RECALL I DON'T RECALL READING THROUGH THEM AND I'M SORRY IT'S SO LATE I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT I READ BUT CAN SOMEBODY TELL ME IF WHAT THE WHAT THOSE THE CONDITIONS WERE THAT WE THAT THIS HAD TO MEET? I KNOW THEY'RE WRITTEN DOWN SOMEWHERE. CAN SOMEBODY JUST FIND THEM? SOMEBODY HAS TO KNOW NICK. I KNOW YOU KNOW I KNOW YOU WANT TO COME UP HERE AND ANSWER THE QUESTION I'M JUST MAKING SURE THAT THAT IT'S ON THE RECORD THAT AND WHAT IT WHETHER WHAT IT INCLUDES. >> YEAH. THANK YOU MAYOR MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE TRAFFIC MITIGATION MEASURES THAT ARE REFLECTED IN THE TRAFFIC REPORT? WELL, IN THE IN THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL THERE'S A SERIES OF CONDITIONS THAT NEED TO BE MET AND I DON'T I KNOW WE KNOW WHAT THEY ARE BECAUSE WE ALL SAW THEM IN THE PACKET BUT I CAN'T REMEMBER OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD NUMBER ONE, IF IT INCLUDES THE TRAFFIC PIECE AND TO WHAT THE OTHER ONES ARE JUST SO WE EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT THERE'S STILL MORE THINGS THAT NEED TO BE DONE AS CONDITIONS OF OUR APPROVAL TONIGHT AMERICANS FOR ADULTS UNDER THERE IS A LENGTHY LIST OF CONDITIONS IT DOES HAVE TO DO WITH CODE COMPLIANCE AND A NUMBER OF THINGS WHERE THEY'RE NOT ACTIVELY SEEKING PD FLEXIBILITY AGAIN AND THAT'S THE PARKING THE NUMBER OF PARKING STALLS PROVIDED AND THE INTERIOR PARKING ISLANDS THAT'S THE STORM WATER DEPRESSION. SO ALL THESE THINGS ARE VERY COMMON IN A REDEVELOPMENT APPLICATION. THERE'S ITEMS THAT NEED TO BE BUTTONED UP THROUGH THE ITERATIVE DESIGN PROCESS AND THEY HAVE TO MEET ALL THOSE THINGS IN ORDER TO GET A BUILDING PERMIT. RIGHT? OKAY. BUT NONE OF THEM INCLUDE SPECIFICALLY THE TRAFFIC MITIGATION. TRAFFIC COMPONENTS ARE REFLECTED AS YOU'RE APPROVING THE PRELIMINARY AND FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLANS BASED ON THE FINDINGS OF THE TRAFFIC REPORT WHICH DO INCLUDE MULTIPLE MITIGATION MEASURES. THEY'VE TALKED ABOUT THE CURB BUMP OUTS OR TALKED ABOUT PARKING ON 90TH STREET. I KNOW I KNOW OUR TRAFFIC STAFF WANTS TO DO MORE ENGAGEMENT ON THE TOPIC OF ENGAGEMENT WITH THE NEIGHBORS, WANTS TO DO MORE DISCUSSION WITH THEM ABOUT PARKING SO YEAH THOSE THINGS ARE ALL REFLECTED IN THE RECORD AND THE TRAFFIC. VERY GOOD. THANKS FOR LETTING ME CLARIFY . COUNCIL ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THIS IF NOW WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THE TABLE TO APPROVE THE PRELIMINARY AND FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLANS FOR THE COMMUNITY HLTH AND WELLNESS CENTER WITH FUTURE GYM EXPANSION SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS AND CODE REQUIREMENTS ATTACHED IN THE STAFF REPORT FOR THE COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES SIX ONE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER RIVAS IN OPPOSITION AND COUNCIL MEMBER LAUREN MERRILL MOVED TO APPROVE THE PRELIMINARY PLAT AND ADOPT A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE FINAL PLAN FOR CREEKSIDE COMMUNITIES SECOND EDITION MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER AND SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO TO APPROVE THE PRELIMINARY PLANT AND A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE FINAL PLAN FOR THE CREEKSIDE CENTER. SECOND, IN ADDITION, ANY FURTHER COUNCIL COMMENT ON THIS QUESTIONS HEARING NONE ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO THANK YOU AGAIN TO EVERYBODY WHO SPOKE TONIGHT THANK YOU FOR BRINGING FORWARD YOUR COMMENTS. NEIGHBORS WE LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING THIS CONVERSATION WITH YOU AND WORKING ON THIS AND SEEING WHERE WE CAN END UP AND ACTUALLY TO OUR STAFF. THANK YOU FOR THE WORK THAT YOU PUT INTO THIS IN COUNCIL. I LOOK FORWARD TO MOVING FORWARD ON A COMMUNITY HEALTH AND WELLNESS CENTER. GOOD FOR YOU. COUNCIL WE ARE NOW AT 1025 AND WE GOT SOME WORK TO DO STILL SO WE'RE GOING TO KEEP MOVING RIGHT ALONG. DO 4.4 WE'RE GOING TO DO ITEM 4.4 NOW THIS IS THE HEIGHTS CONDOMINIUM ASSOCIATION HOUSING AREA IMPROVEMENT AREA PROJECT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT INTRA FUND LOAN AND BOND ISSUANCE AUTHORIZATION. MR. NIEMEYER MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBERS, THANK YOU FOR STICKING WITH IT HERE. I'LL JUMP RIGHT IN. SO WELL EXCUSE ME FOLKS IF YOU COULD TAKE THE CONVERSATIONS OUT SIGNS EVEN OUR STAFF MEMBERS IF YOU COULD TAKE THE CONVERSATIONS OUT SO WE CAN GET WE GOT TO GET THROUGH OUR THE REST OF OUR AGENDA. THANK YOU, MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBERS. THE ITEM TONIGHT IS THE HEIGHTS WHICH YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH. WE'LL GO THROUGH AN OVERVIEW TALK THROUGH A PROJECT DELAY, GO THROUGH TERM HIGHLIGHTS FROM THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, TALK THROUGH BOND ISSUANCE AND THEN TALK THROUGH SOME VERY NEXT STEPS. SO YOU'RE FAMILIAR WH THE HEIGHTS THIS IS A PARKING STRUCTURE FOR A CONDOMINIUM THAT WAS CONDEMNED THE HEIGHTS CONDOMINIUM ASSOCIATION HAS BEEN APPLYING FOR FINANCING TO MAKE A SUBSTANTIAL REHABILITATION OF THAT PARKING STRUCTURE THROUGH THE HOUSING IMPROVEMENT AREA WHICH IS A FINANCING MECHANISM ENABLED THROUGH STATE STATUTE AND WHICH BLOOMINGTON HAS A LOCAL POLICY FOR. SO THE APPROVALS FOR THAT HOA FINANCING WERE APPROVED BY THE CITY AND THE HRA ALONG WITH ADDITIONAL COMPONENTS TO IMPROVE THE AFFORDABILITY OF THAT LENDING AND THAT INCLUDED A LOW INTEREST LOAN FROM THE ETRADE'S DEVELOPMENT FUND, THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A TAX INCREMENT FINANCING DISTRICT AND ALLOCATION OF 250,000 OF THE CITY'S LOCAL AFFORDABLE HOUSING AID FOR DIRECT INCOME BASED ASSISTANCE TO INCOME QUALIFIED HOUSEHOLDS . SO SINCE THE APPROVAL OF THE HOA FINANCING PACKAGE, THE PROJECT HAS BEEN WORKING TOWARD A PROJECT START BUT THERE HAVE BEEN DELAYS THAT HAVE PREVENTED THAT START AND THEY'RE ASSOCIATED WITH THOSE DELAYS ARE SOME COST INCREASES. SO WE'VE HIGHLIGHTED HERE WHAT THE REASON FOR THOSE INCREASES ARE MAINLY THAT THE RATE OF DETERIORATION HAS CONTINUED BETWEEN THE APPLICATION APPROVAL AND THE CURRENT DAY. THE SCOPE OF THE PROJECT HAS ALSO EXPANDED TO INCLUDE ADDITIONAL BALCONIES THAT WERE ORDERED CLOSED, LOCKED AND BLOCKED BY OUR BUILDING AND INSPECTIONS DIVISION RESULTING FROM A STRUCTURAL REPORT PROVIDED BY THE ENGINEER FOR THE PROJECT. SO THOSE WERE ADDITIONAL BALCONIES FROM WHAT WAS APPROVED IN THE INITIAL APPLICATION THERE HAVE BEEN COST INCREASES RESULTING FROM INFLATION AND TARIFFS SO MACROECONOMIC CONDITIONS AND THERE HAVE BEEN ROUNDS OF COST ENGINEERING THAT THE ENGINEERING COMPANY AND COMPASS HAS CONDUCTED WITH THE SELECTED CONTRACTOR IN AN EFFORT TO MOVE THE PROJECT FORWARD WITHIN THE INITIAL ESTIMATED PROJECT BUDGET AND UNFORTUNATELY THAT WASN'T IT WAS DETERMINED THAT THAT WASN'T FEASIBLE. AND SO TONIGHT THE ITEM IS TO GO THROUGH WHAT THE APPROVALS WOULD BE NEEDED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS REVISED PROJECT BUDGET. SO ALTERNATIVE OPTIONS THAT WERE EXPLORED WE DIDN'T DO OR THE ENGINEER AND THE PROJECT MANAGER DID COST ENGINEERING TO SEE IF THE PROJECT COULD MOVE FORWARD AND THEY LOOKED AT THAT BOTH THE BUILDING PLAN AND JUST BASICALLY WORKING THROUGH SUBCONTRACTORS AND SEEING WHAT'S POSSIBLE AND THAT IT WASN'T FEASIBLE. THERE WAS AN EXAMINATION OF A SURFACE PARKING LOT INSTEAD OF SUBSTANTIAL REHABILITATION OF THE PARKING GARAGE. INSTEAD THERE WOULD BE A DEMOLITION OR A BACKFILL OF THAT GARAGE TO PROVIDE JUST SURFACE PARKING. WE HEARD FROM OUR PLANNING STAFF THAT THIS WASN'T THERE WOULD BE A VARIANCE NEEDED TO MEET PARKING REQUIREMENTS AND THERE WOULDN'T BE A STAFF SUPPORT FOR THAT VARIANCE PROCESS AND THEN THERE WAS A LOOK AT ADDITIONAL PARKING IN THE BACK LOT FOR THE PROPERTY WHICH AGAIN THERE WAS SOME CONDITIONS THAT MADE THAT INFEASIBLE. SO THE REVISED BUDGET INCLUDES A TOTAL INCREASE OF 13 50,000 292,606 HOUR COST CONSTRUCTION COST INCREASES AND THEN 57,394 OUR ADMIN COSTS TO PAY BACK ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN INCURRED FOR BOTH LEGAL AND MUNICIPAL ADVISOR AND BOND COUNCIL FEES AND THEN IT'S ALSO FOR THE HEIGHTS H A TO THE HEIGHTS ASSOCIATION TO PAY THOSE COSTS BACK TO THE CITY IN NATURE AND SO THE HRA AT ITS AUGUST 12TH MEETING APPROVED THIS INCREASE. THE INCREASE WAS CAPTURED BY THEIR INNER FUND LOAN INCREASING BY THAT 30 OR 50,000 AND THE WAY THAT THE HOA IS ABLE TO SUPPORT THIS INCREASED PRINCIPAL BALANCE IS BY REDUCING THE RAISE IN HER FUND LOAN INTEREST RATE. SO THE FINAL ASSESSMENT AMOUNT FOR THESE OWNERS HASN'T CHANGED FROM WHAT YOU APPROVED THROUGH THE HOA. WHAT HAS CHANGED IS THE RAISE IN HER FUND LOAN INTEREST RATE AND THEIR PRINCIPAL BALANCE BUT THE BORROWERS WON'T SEE A CHANGE TO THEIR ASSESSMENT EXCEPT FOR BORROWERS THAT PREPAY IT AND WE HAVE WORKED WITH THEM TO SIGN A WAIVER THAT THEY UNDERSTAND THIS CHANGE AND WOULD STILL DESIRE TO MOVE FORWARD. SO WE HAVE THOSE WAIVERS SIGNED SO WE'VE HIGHLIGHTED SOME DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT TERMS THAT WE FEEL ARE RESPONSIVE TO FEEDBACK THAT WE HEARD FROM THE COUNCIL AND THEY IT'S A PREVIOUS APPROVALS SO I'LL GO THROUGH THOSE QUICKLY. THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT APPROVES THIS MAX FUNDING OF 2.8 $2,833,287. IT DOES SET PREREQUISITES FOR THIS FUNDING TO BECOME AVAILABLE FOR THE PROJECT TO DRAW UPON WHICH INCLUDE THAT CONSTRUCTION PLANS BEING APPROVED BY THE CITY BUILDING OFFICIAL THAT THE HEIGHTS CONTRACT ENTERS A CONTRACT WITH A PROFESSIONAL CONSTRUCTION MANAGER AND THAT WE RECEIVE ONE CONSTRUCTION STATEMENTS THAT SHOW THAT TOTAL PROJECT COST. THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT OUTLINES THE REIMBURSEMENT PROCESS. IT DOES SET A MINIMUM BALANCE FOR THE HEIGHTS REPLACEMENT RESERVE FUND BY THE END OF THIS YEAR AND WE'VE HEARD FROM THE HEIGHTS ASSOCIATION AND THEIR PROPERTY MANAGER THAT THEY'LL BE ABLE TO MEET THE TARGET THAT WAS SET OUT IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT FOR THAT NUMBER. THE DEPARTMENT AGREEMENT ALSO WILL REQUIRE ONGOING AUDITS OF FINANCIAL STATEMENTS EXCUSE ME I'M GOING AUDITED FINANCIAL STATEMENTS AND FINANCIAL REPORTS SUBMITTED TO THE CITY IN NATURE FOR STAFF REVIEW IT REQUIRES CONTINUED WRITTEN REPORT FROM AN ENGINEER ON THE CONTINUED MAINTENANCE OF THE IMPROVEMENTS AND THEN THE CITY IN THE AREA WILL BE ABLE TO PREPAY THEIR BOND AND ENTER FUND LOAN IF THERE ARE SUFFICIENT REVENUES COLLECTED PRIOR TO THE MATURITY DATE. AND THEN LAURIE ECONOMY SCHOLER IS GOING TO GIVE A BRIEF TALK THROUGH OF THE BOND AND THE PROCESS FOR THE FUND. THANK YOU MAYOR AND COUNCIL WE HAVE AN RFP READY TO GO OUT THE DOOR TOMORROW DEPENDING ON APPROVAL. THIS EVENING AND THAT WILL HAVE TO BE OUT THERE FOR THREE WEEKS AND WE'LL BE SELECTING A FINANCIAL INSTITUTION. THIS WILL BE A NEGOTIATE A BOND SALE VERSUS A COMPETITIVE BOND SALE. WE ARE TRYING TO CREATE A FINANCIAL INSTRUMENT THAT IS MARKETABLE. WE ORIGINALLY THOUGHT 20 YEAR TERM MIGHT BE AVAILABLE IN THE MARKETPLACE WHERE YOU ARE GOING TO NEED TO STICK BETWEEN TEN AND 15 YEARS TO MAKE IT MARKETABLE. THAT WILL BRING ACTUALLY THE INTEREST RATE OR THE INTEREST ACCUMULATED OVER THE PERIOD DOWN SO THAT ALSO HELPS WITH THE DURATION OF THAT. THE TOTAL FINANCIAL PACKAGE FOR THE HEIGHTS. SO FOR THE SCHEDULE THAT IS IN YOUR PACKET THE RFP BE OUT FOR THREE WEEKS WILL SELECT A VENDOR BASED OFF OF LOWEST INTEREST RATE AND WE WILL BRING THAT INFORMATION BACK TO THE COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL OF THE AWARD ON SEPTEMBER 29TH . THANK YOU. SO MARIN COUNCILMEMBERS THE NEXT STEPS LORI ALREADY WENT THROUGH A FEW OF THESE BUT IF THE INTERVENTION DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND BOND ISSUANCE RESOLUTIONS ARE APPROVED THIS EVENING THE WE WOULD WORK STAFF WOULD WORK WITH THE HEIGHTS HOA TO EXECUTE THAT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND WORK TOWARD FULFILLING THOSE PREREQUISITES FOR FUNDING AVAILABILITY WITH THE GOAL OF BEGINNING CONSTRUCTION AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. WE WOULD NEED THAT BUILDING BUILDING PERMIT APPROVAL AND STAFF HAVE MESSAGED THE ABILITY TO GO THROUGH APPROVALS RAPIDLY SINCE A VERSION OF THIS BUILDING PLAN HAS BEEN BROUGHT TO THE CITY PREVIOUSLY AND THEN IN SEPTEMBER THE DATE THAT LORI MENTIONED WE WOULD BRING BACK THE BOND AWARD RESOLUTION AND THEN THE FINAL ASSESSMENT ROLE RESOLUTION FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AND THEN JUST SOME OTHER NEXT STEPS. THE CONTRACTOR THAT THE HOA HAS BEEN WORKING WITH MESSAGE THAT A PRICE LOCK IN WOULD BE AVAILABLE FOR MATERIALS AND EQUIPMENT IF CONSTRUCTION IS ABLE TO BEGIN IN THIS CURRENT CONSTRUCTION SEASON AND THAT WOULD BE IF WE COULD BEGIN DEMOLITION AND THEN ORDER MATERIALS AND EQUIPMENT. SO THERE IS THE POTENTIAL FOR LABOR TO HAVE A COST INCREASE. WHAT WAS COMMUNICATED TO ME IS THAT THESE LABOR INCREASES OCCUR TYPICALLY AROUND MAY BECAUSE THEY'RE TIED TO UNION RATES AND THAT IF THE PROJECT WERE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD AND LOCK IN MATERIAL AND EQUIPMENT PRICES THAT THEY'RE THERE'S LOW CONCERN THAT THOSE LABOR A POTENTIAL LABOR INCREASE IN MAY WOULD RESULT IN A COST OVERAGE TO THIS REVISED BUDGET. THIS REVISED BUDGET DOES INCLUDE A 5% CONTINGENCY WHICH WE HEARD WAS SUFFICIENT FOR A PROJECT THAT HAS RECEIVED THIS LEVEL OF SCRUTINY IN TERMS OF COST ENGINEERING AND BUILDING PLAN REVISIONS. SO THE OTHER THING TO MENTION WE WOULD HAVE DEMOLITION THIS FALL IF WE WERE TO APPROVE BUT THE GARAGE REBUILD WOULD NOT OCCUR UNTIL SPRING 2026 SO STAFF WOULD WORK WITH THE HEIGHTS HOA AND THE NEIGHBORING COMMUNITY TO IMPLEMENT THE WINTER PARKING STRATEGY THAT TOOK PLACE OVER THE 2024 TO 2025 WINTER WHICH INCLUDED ON STREET PARKING FOLLOWING PARKING REGULATIONS AND RELOCATION IN NORTH CREST PARK TO THE WEST DURING SNOW EMERGENCIES. SO WITH THAT THERE ARE THREE THREE MOTIONS FOR RECOMMENDATION AND I'LL STAND FOR QUESTIONS. THANK YOU MR. NIEMANN APPRECIATE IT. COUNCIL QUESTIONS ON THIS COUNCILMEMBER DE MER I JUST WANTED TO PROVIDE SOME PERSPECTIVE FROM THE HRA BECAUSE I SIT ON THE HRA SO YOU GUYS HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT WE SPOKE ABOUT WITH HRA AS WELL AND I'LL SAY NOBODY WAS EXCITED TO HAVE THIS BACK ON OUR AGENDA. I DON'T THINK THE RESIDENTS WERE EXCITED TO HAVE THIS BACK ON OUR AGENDA. WE WERE NOT EXCITED TO HAVE THIS BACK ON OUR AGENDA BUT IT WAS A REALLY GOOD AND ROBUST CONVERSATION AROUND THE EXPECTATIONS WE HAVE FOR STAFF TO CONTINUE TO SUPPORT AND UNDERSTAND THE NEEDS OF THE RESIDENTS, EXPECTATION OF THE RESIDENTS TO DO AS MUCH AS THEY CAN WITH THEIR HOA TO LOCK IN THOSE PRICES SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANY IMPACTS THAT COME FROM TARIFFS OR LABOR INCREASES OR WHATEVER IT IS. BUT IF YOU SEE THE CONDITION OF THE GARAGE YOU'LL UNDERSTAND THE URGENCY BEHIND IT BECAUSE IT IS LITERALLY FALLING APART AS WE SPEAK AND SO AFTER THE DISCUSSION THAT WE HAD AND THE EXPECTATIONS THAT WE SET OUT, THE HRA ULTIMATELY AGREED THAT THIS WAS GOING TO BE SOMETHING WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO SUPPORT BECAUSE OF THE IMPACT THAT IT DOES HAVE FOR THESE RESIDENTS AND OUR COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE THAT IT IS NOT EASY TO GET ANY SUPPORT AND THIS IS THE LAST RESORT FOR THESE RESIDENTS TO GET FUNDING TO SUPPORT GETTING THIS GARAGE REDONE. THEY'VE GONE THROUGH ALL THE STEPS. WERE THERE ANY PRIVATE LENDERS WERE THROUGH ALL THE BANKS THEY SWITCH THEIR HOA MANAGEMENT TEAM TO SHOW THAT THEY ARE PARTNERS IN THIS WITH US AND THAT THEY WANT TO CONTINUE TO PROTECT US AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT NATURALLY EXISTS. SO THAT IS WHERE WE WERE WITH THE HRA AND THE DISCUSSIONS THAT WE HAD WHICH ULTIMATELY LED US TO AGREE THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE CONTINUE TO SUPPORT AND LOOK FORWARD TO GETTING THIS DONE SO THAT THESE RESIDENTS CAN GET BACK TO THEIR HOMES SAFELY AND ACCESSIBLY. THANK YOU FOR THAT SUMMARY COUNCILMEMBER. I APPRECIATE THAT. AND BRINGING FORWARD THE HRC PERSPECTIVE THAT'S USEFUL. THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER MEMBER YEAH I JUST WANT TO ASK THAT THE H.R. PLEASE FOLLOW UP BECAUSE I IF ELIGIBLE FOLLOW UP YOU KNOW SO YOU GUYS HAD A GREAT CONVERSATION IT SEEMS THIS LITTLE TIME BUT ONE OF THE THINGS I'M CONCERNED ABOUT IS SOME OF THE OTHER MAINTENANCE STUFF AS WELL. DID YOU ALL FEEL CONFIDENT THAT THAT THAT THAT THAT WAS COVERED AND THAT THERE WOULDN'T BE AN ISSUE KIND OF MOVING FORWARD IN TERMS OF YOUR YOUR CONVERSATION THAT YOU GUYS HAD? LET'S GO TO OUR OTHER HRC REPRESENTATIVE COUNCIL MEMBER CARTER FOR SAY THANK YOU TO CHIEF HODGES FOR THE SWEATSHIRT NOT FREEZING ANY MORE. YEAH, THAT WAS ACTUALLY A QUESTION I HAD ASKED JUST HAVING SOME CONCERNS THAT YOU KNOW IF THE PARKING STRUCTURE WAS IN THIS BAD OF CONDITION WHAT WAS THE REST OF THE BUILDING LIKE? AND WE WE WE WERE REASSURED THAT THE BUILDING BY OUR OWN CITY STAFF THAT THE BUILDING ITSELF THE INSIDE OF THE BUILDING IS IT IS FINE IT REALLY IS THE PARKING STRUCTURE AND THEN THE BALCONIES THAT HAVE TO BE REPLACED. COUNCIL MEMBER DALLESSANDRO HI . THANK YOU. THERE'S NO PUBLIC HEARING, RIGHT? THAT'S JUST APPROVAL OR IS THERE A PUBLIC HEARING? DOESN'T SAY THAT WASN'T SURE. THIS IS NOT A PROPER PUBLIC HEARING. THIS IS A RESOLUTION. OKAY GREAT. ALL RIGHT. I'M ASKING ONLY BECAUSE I WOULD DEFER MY QUESTIONS OR MY COMMENTS UNTIL AFTERWARDS. BUT IF WE'RE GOING TO GET TO TAKE A VOTE QUICKLY THEN THAT'S GREAT. I'LL MAKE MY COMMENTS SO THESE FOLKS IN MY KNEE THESE ARE ME KNOW MY MY DISTRICT AND I HAVE BEEN TALKING TO THEM SINCE THE VERY BEGINNING. BEEN THERE A FEW TIMES. OBVIOUSLY WE ALL GOT THE CHANCE WE WERE INVITED TO GO SEE IT AGAIN IN THE PAST AS THIS PART WAS GOING THROUGH AND I'VE ALSO HAD THE CHANCE TO TALK TO A BUNCH OF NEIGHBORS RIGHT THERE SO READY FOR THIS THING TO GET DONE. IT IS IMPACTING AN ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD WHEN YOU HAVE 32 PROPERTIES 3264 TO 90 CARS. HOWEVER MANY IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD TRYING TO FIND A PLACE TO PARK EVERYTHING IS IMPACTED ALL THE WAY DOWN THE BLOCKS AND AROUND AND EVEN YOU KNOW, ATTORNEY MANAGED AND I TOOK TOOK A DRIVE TOGETHER TO TAKE A LOOK. IT'S IT'S I WOULD I GUESS WHAT I'M SAYING IS I WOULD SINCERELY APPEAL TO THIS COUNCIL ON BEHALF OF THE PEOPLE IN THIS IN THIS CONDO BUILDING TO PASS THIS AND GET THIS DONE AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. I AM CONCERNED INCREDIBLY THAT IT THE REASON WE ARE HERE TONIGHT IS BECAUSE WE TOOK TOO LONG TO GET THIS DONE. WE CAN'T DO THAT AGAIN. WE REALLY CAN'T. SO WITH THAT, MR. MAYOR, YOU KNOW, BARRING ANYTHING ELSE, I'D BE VERY THRILLED TO MAKE THE MOTION. THANK YOU. DON'T REMEMBER ANY OTHER COMMENTS? COUNCIL. COUNCIL. I LOOK FOR ACTION ON THIS. WE'VE GOT TO GET SOME WORK DONE YET. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I WOULD MOVE TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION APPROVING A DEVELOPING AGREEMENT WITH THE HOUSING AND REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY IN AND FOR THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON AND THE HEIGHTS CONDOMINIUM ASSOCIATION WITH RESPECT TO THE HEIGHTS CONDOMINIUM ASSOCIATION HOUSING IMPROVEMENT AREA, A MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO, A SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS TO APPROVE THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH THE HRA FOR THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON IN THE HEIGHTS CONDOMINIUM ASSOCIATION NO FOR THE COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO I MOVED TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING AN INTER FUND LOAN BETWEEN THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON AND THE HOUSING AND REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY IN AND FOR THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON FOR THE HEIGHTS CONDOMINIUM ASSOCIATION HOUSING IMPROVEMENT AREA PROJECT. A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER DELLA SANDRO SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER REMUS TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING AN INTERPHONE INTER FUND LOAN BETWEEN THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON AND THE HRA AND THE HEIGHTS CONDOMINIUM ASSOCIATION. NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO AND ONE MORE TIME COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO YES SIR. I MOVED TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE ISSUANCE AND SALE OF TAXABLE GENERAL OBLIGATION HOUSING IMPROVEMENT AREA BONDS IN THE PROPOSED AGGREGATE PRINCIPAL AMOUNT OF $1.1 MILLION. MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS TO AUTHORIZE THE ISSUANCE AND SALE OF TAXABLE GENERAL OBLIGATION HOUSING IMPROVEMENT AREA BONDS FOR THE COUNCIL DISCUSSION. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I. I OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO. THANK YOU VERY MUCH MR. NIEMEYER AND THANK YOU TO THE HRA AND OUR FINANCE TEAM FOR THEIR WORK GETTING THIS TAKEN CARE OF. CONGRATULATIONS. HOMEOWNERS, LET'S LET'S GET THIS DONE. LET'S GET THIS TAKEN CARE OF. MISS ECONOMY SCHOLER I WAS TOLD YOU CAN WHIP THROUGH ALL OF THESE IN TEN MINUTES SO THAT'S WHAT I WAS DOING LAST THE FIRST ITEM UP ON 4.5 IS THE AMENDMENT TO OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OR OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN AND THAT IS WHEN THE SLIDES COME UP GENERALLY WHEN WE LOOK AT THE WORKSHEET THAT WE INCLUDED IN THERE IN OUR CFP WE HAD THE SALT CHEN LISTED AS OTHER SOURCES TO ISSUE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT BONDS. WE NEED TO MOVE IT FROM OTHER SOURCES TO CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT BONDS AND THAT'S THE AMENDMENT BEFORE YOU GENERALLY AS WE MOVE THROUGH THAT. SO I THINK THAT SECOND SHEET SHOWS THE CHANGES. OKAY. SO YOU CAN SEE IN THE EQUIPMENT GARAGE IT WAS ALL SUPPOSED TO BE BUILT IN 2025 WE KEPT THE 3.3 MILLION FOR THE GARAGE PLAN THAT WE ARE GOING TO TALK ABOUT A LITTLE BIT LATER THIS EVENING AND THEN THE GARAGE AMOUNT NEXT YEAR AND THEN THE 14 MILLION FOR THE SHED. SO AMENDMENTS IS TO MOVE OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN UNDER CAPITAL BONDS UP TO 102 MILLION OVER THE NEXT TEN YEARS AND THEN JUST GIVING YOU TIMELINES ON THE NEXT COPY. BUT I'M JUST GOING TO KEEP MOVING. IT'S A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE AMENDMENT. VERY GOOD COUNSEL DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF MISS ECONOMY SHOULDER ON THIS ITEM? NO QUESTIONS. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON ITEM 4.5. IT'S PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING THE 2025 THROUGH 2034 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN AMENDMENT DISCUSSED HERE TONIGHT SO ANYONE IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS WISHING TO SPEAK TO ITEM 4.5 THIS EVENING WE ARE GOING TO WE HAVE ANYONE ON THE PHONE IT'S KIND OF FUNNY THEY WANT HERE WE DO NOT HAVE ANYONE ON LINE LAST CALL FOR ANYBODY IN THE CHAMBERS COUNCIL. NOBODY COMING FORWARD IN THE CHAMBERS, NO ONE ON THE PHONE WISHING TO SPEAK TO ITEM 4.4 THIS EVENING. I WILL LOOK FOR A MOTION TO EXCUSE ME 4.5 I WOULD LOOK FOR A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON AND 4.5 SO SECOND MOTION MY COUNCILMEMBER SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON ITEM 4.5 NO FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT OR NOTE FOR THE COUNCIL COMMENT ON THIS ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO. COUNSEL ANY QUESTIONS ANYTHING ON THIS ONE IF NOT COUNCIL I WOULD LOOK FOR MOTION ON I LOOK FOR A MOTION ON ITEM 4.5 HOW WE DO THAT MAYOR COUNCILMEMBER MOVED TO APPROVE AN AMENDMENT TO THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON'S CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN 2025 TO 20 2034 AND PROVIDING PRELIMINARY APPROVAL TO THE ISSUANCE OF GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS THERE UNDER A MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO TO APPROVE THE AMENDMENTS TO THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON'S CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN 2025 THROUGH 2034 NO FOR THE COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO ITEM 4.6 IS A RESOLUTION REGARDING THE REIMBURSEMENT OF DECLARING INTENT TO REIMBURSE CERTAIN EXPENDITURES FROM PROCEEDS OF BONDS TO BE ISSUED BY THE CITY MISS ECONOMY SCHULER MAYOR AND COUNCIL COME AND HAVE A PUBLIC EVENT. FIRST ITEM UP IS THE REIMBURSEMENT RESOLUTION IS FOR THE SALT SHED SO ALL OF THE EXPENDITURES THAT WE ARE GOING TO ACCUMULATE FOR THE SALT SHOW BETWEEN NOW AND THE TIME THAT WE ISSUE THE BONDS, WE ARE LOOKING TO MAKE SURE THAT COUNCIL HAS ALLOWED US TO GATHER ALL THOSE COSTS TO BE REIMBURSED THROUGH BONDS SO NOT TO EXCEED 14 MILLION AND THAT'S THE MOTION. THANK YOU MUCH COUNCIL ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS REGARDING ITEM 4.6 HERE? HEARING NONE COUNCIL I WILL LOOK FOR ACTION ITEM 4.6. COUNCIL MEMBER DALLESSANDRO OH ME SURE WHY NOT? THAT WAS NOT WHAT I WAS DOING BUT I LOVE THAT FOR ME I MOVE TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION SORRY DECLARING INTENT OF THE CITY TO REIMBURSE CERTAIN EXPENDITURES FROM THE PROCEEDS OF BONDS TO BE ISSUED BY THE CITY SO MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER DALE SANDRO SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS TO ADOPT THE REIMBURSEMENT RESOLUTION DECLARING INTENT OF THE CITY TO REIMBURSE CERTAIN EXPENDITURES FROM THE PROCEEDS OF BONDS TO BE ISSUED BY THE CITY. NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES SIX ZERO NOTING THAT COUNCILMEMBER HAS STEPPED AWAY. MOVING ON ITEM 4.7 A SECOND RESOLUTION THIS IS A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE ISSUANCE AND SALE OF TAX EXEMPT GENERAL OBLIGATION C IP BONDS MR. ECONOMY SCHOLER MAYOR COUNCIL AGAIN THIS ITEM IS IN REGARDS TO THE SOLUTION THE COUNCIL NEEDS TO AUTHORIZE US TO BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE ISSUANCE AND SALE OF THE TAX EXEMPT BONDS FOR THE SALE AND SO THIS WOULD BE FOR LAND ACQUISITION DEMOLITION DESIGN DESIGN. THE PROJECT IS AGAIN APPROXIMATELY 14 MILLION INCLUDING THE COST OF ISSUANCE AND RELATED DEBT SERVICE. IT WOULD BE A 20 YEAR TERM. PROPERTY TAX WILL PAY WITH THE DEBT SERVICE BACK. SO TIMING WISE ON THIS PARTICULAR ONE WE ARE LOOKING FOR THAT AUTHORIZATION TO SELL THE BONDS. LOOK AT THE RESOLUTION TO THIS ON CURRENT THIS WEEK IT WILL PUBLISH NEXT WEEK AND THEN WE HAVE A 30 DAY REVERSE REFERENDUM PERIOD FOR THESE BONDS. SO WE WERE LOOKING FOR A BOND SALE DATE OF NOVEMBER 17TH AND THE MOTION IS BEFORE YOU THINK YOU COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO HOPEFULLY THESE REALLY QUICK QUESTIONS. THE FIRST QUESTION I HAVE IS AS DOES THIS SALE IMPACT WHAT WE'VE LEARNED TO DATE ABOUT THE TAX LEVY OR IS THIS FOR 2026? >> SO MAYOR AND COUNCILMEMBERS ALESSANDRA. THESE AMOUNTS HAVE BEEN FACTORED INTO THE 1.75% LEVY INCREASE FOR THE DEBT SERVICE AMOUNTS FOR NEXT YEAR. OKAY GREAT. THANK YOU. SECOND QUESTION IS THERE ANY IS THERE ANY CONSIDERATION IN THIS AGREEMENT FOR WHICH THE BOND IS BEING PROPOSED THAT DOES SOMETHING WITH THE OLD SALT SHED NOW THAT WE'RE NOT LIKE REUSING IT IN ANY WAY LIKE NOW THAT WE'VE COMPLETELY CHANGED THE WAY THAT WE WERE PLANNING TO DO THINGS MAYOR AND COUNCIL I BELIEVE THE INTENT OF ORIGINALLY DEPENDING ON LOCATION WAS TO TEAR DOWN THAT BUILDING, DEMOLISH THAT BUILDING AND NOT REUSE THAT STRUCTURE IN THE STRUCTURE IF IT HAD BEEN BUILT OVER IN THAT LOCATION. SO EITHER WAY EITHER WAY IT WAS GOING TO BE DEMOLISHED THERE AGAIN, THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO, ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? COUNSEL HEARING NONE. COUNSEL I WOULD LOOK FOR ACTION ON ITEM 4.7. COUNCILMEMBER THANK YOU, MAYOR . I MOVE TO AUTHORIZE THE ISSUANCE AND SALE TAXES OF GENERAL OBLIGATION CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT BONDS IN THE PROPOSED AGGREGATE PRINCIPAL AMOUNT OF $14 MILLION. SECOND MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN TO AUTHORIZE THE ISSUANCE AND SALE OF TAX EXEMPT GENERAL OBLIGATION CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT BONDS NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I. I OPPOSED THE MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO AND ITEM 4.8 TONIGHT RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE ISSUANCE AND SALE OF TAXABLE GENERAL OBLIGATION CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT BONDS ONCE AGAIN THIS FOR THE LAND COUNCIL COUNCILMEMBER OR EXCUSE ME MISS ECONOMY SCHOLER AND GOT PROMOTED MAYOR AND COUNCIL THIS IS FOR THE LAND THAT WAS ACQUIRED BY THE CITY SEVERAL YEARS BACK IN 2022 FOR THE GARAGE TO BE BUILT UPON I THINK DURING OUR TOUR WE SAW THE BUILDING OUT THERE THIS WOULD BE FOR THAT LAND ACQUISITION AND SO THE TOTAL AMOUNT WOULD NOT EXCEED THE $3.3 MILLION INCLUDING COST OF ISSUANCE IF IT BE A 20 YEAR TERM PROPERTY TAXES WOULD BE PAY THAT AND THE ASSETS PART OF THE THE DEBT SERVICE TAX LEVY ABOUT FOUR 2026 ON TIMING WISE WE HAVE AGAIN IT GOING TO THE SUN CURRENT WE WOULD HAVE AN AUTHORIZED WE WANT TO MERGE THIS ONE WITH OUR NORMAL PAVEMENT MANAGEMENT PROGRAM DEBT ISSUANCE SO ON THIS PARTICULAR ONE I WANT TOOINT OUT THE SALE DATE IS A 20TH. NORMALLY WE WOULD DO THE SALE DATE ABOUT A MONTH AFTER THE AUTHORIZATION WHICH WOULD BE ABOUT THE 13TH OF OCBER. THE 13TH OF OCTOBER IS COLUMBUS DAY IN FEDERAL AND WE THE MARKETS ARE CLOSED SO WE MOVED IT TO THE 20TH SO AUTHORIZATION ON A PUBLIC MEETING LIKE TONIGHT BUT THE SALE A WAR DATE WOULD BE ON A STUDY SESSION. SO I JUST WANT TO POINT THAT OUT TO YOU AND THEN THE MOTION IS BEFORE YOU COUNCIL ANY QUESTIONS COMMENTS ON THIS? COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS I WAS UNDER THE ASSUMPTION THAT THERE THE SALT BUILDING OR THE LAND THIS FROM THE OLD SALT BUILDING WAS GOING TO BE USED FOR THE GARAGE OR AT LEAST THAT'S WHAT I BELIEVE I HEARD LAST TIME MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBER REAVIS THE BUILDING NEXT TO THE SALT SHED IS WHAT WAS PURCHASED TO BE PART OF THE WHOLE PROJECT WITH THE SALT SHED LOCATION SO IT'S GOING TO BE BOTH THOSE PARCELS FOR THE GARAGE. THANK YOU COUNSEL. ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? COUNSEL I WOULD LOOK FOR ACTION ITEM 4.8 COUNCILMEMBER VOLUNTEER MYSELF FOR THAT I MOVE TO AUTHORIZE THE ISSUANCE OF AND SALE OF TAXABLE GENERAL OBLIGATION CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT BONDS AND THE PROPOSED AGGREGATE PRINCIPAL AMOUNT OF $3.3 MILLION. SECOND MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN TO AUTHORIZE THE ISSUANCE AND SALE OF TAXABLE GENERAL OBLIGATION CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT BONDS FOR THE COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSED MOTION CRIES SEVEN ZERO THANK YOU MUCH MISS ECONOMY SCHOLER THANKS FOR STICKING WITH US THIS LATE. MOVING ON TO OUR ORGANIZATIONAL BUSINESS COUNCIL AS WE DID AS WE STARTED THIS MEETING A LONG TIME AGO, WE MOVED ITEM 5.1 THE NINE MILE CREEK QUARTER RENEWAL PROJECT UPDATE WE MOVE THAT TO NEXT WEEK OR THE WEEK AFTER AND I CAN'T HELP WE MOVE THAT WE MOVE THAT WE'LL GET THAT UPDATE IN THE COMING WEEKS OR SO. MOVING ON TO ITEM 5.2 ARE CITY COUNCIL POLICY AND ISSUE UPDATES. WE HAD ONE SPEAKER TONIGHT MR. JOHN MAYOR WHO MAKE OR EXCUSE ME EXPRESSED CONCERN ABOUT NUMBER OF DIFFERENT THINGS. IT WAS GOOD TO HEAR FROM HIM. I ALWAYS ENJOY CONVERSING WITH HIM. HE BRINGS A GOOD PERSPECTIVE AND WAS ABLE TO TO TO TALK WITH US TONIGHT AND HE WAS THE ONLY ONE WE HAD SPEAKING TONIGHT AT OUR AT OUR LISTENING SESSION THE ONLY OTHER UPDATE THAT I WOULD GIVE I JUST WANT TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT AND A THANK YOU TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT FOR THE LEARNING LINK UP WHICH TOOK PLACE ON SATURDAY OVER AT VALLEY VIEW A FANTASTIC EVENT. A LOT OF PEOPLE THERE, SO MANY THE PRINCIPALS OF SCHOOLS, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, THE PROGRAMING OUR CITY FOLKS WERE THERE, NORMANDALE WAS THERE. THERE WAS JUST A LOT OF GOOD ENERGY PARENTS AND KIDS GETTING READY TO START THE SCHOOL YEAR AND SO HATS OFF TO OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT PARTNERS FOR THE OUTSTANDING WORK THAT THEY DID PUTTING TOGETHER AND I KNOW WE HAD SOME FOLKS CITY STAFF AS WELL WHO WORKED ON IT BUT IT WAS IT WAS A REALLY GOOD, REALLY GOOD EVE AND THE WEATHER WAS ABSOLUTELY PERFECT SO IT WAS A LOT OF FUN. SO MR. DEAN, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD THIS EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS JUST A THANK YOU. THIS WAS A MEATY AGENDA. THESE THINGS WERE ALL VERY TIMELY AND THEY ALL DEPENDED ON ONE ANOTHER. SO THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME TO GET THROUGH THIS. I JUST WANT TO REMIND EVERYONE A YEAR AGO WE'D STILL BE SITTING HERE AT THIS TIME WE'VE GOTTEN USED TO THESE NICE CHANGES AND WE'LL TRY NOT TO DO IT AGAIN FOR A WHILE. THANK YOU. COUNCIL DO YOU GUYS HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD TO OUR COUNCIL POLICY AND ISSUE UPDATE? I DON'T SEE ANY HANDS COMING UP SO COUNCIL WE ARE COMPLETE WITH OUR AGENDA. I WOULD LOOK FOR A MOTION TO ADJOURN SO MOVE SECOND MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN TO ADJOURN THIS EVENING. ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO THANK YOU COUNCIL FOR STICKING IT OUT GOOD WORK TONIGHT STAFF EXCELLENT JOB A LOT LOT GOING ON. WELL DONE AND THANKS TO ALL OF OUR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO TALKED TONIGHT AND WHO BROUGHT ISSUES AND OPPORTUNITIES AND OPINIONS FORWARD SO MUCH APPRECIATE A GOOD MEETING EVERYBODY. HAVE A GOOD REST OF YOUR MONDAY. >> WE'LL SEE YOU ON TUESDAY. THANKS