>>COUN. BASSAN: GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE. IT'S DECEMBER 15th, 2025. THE 44th MEETING OF THE 26th COUNCIL WILL COME TO ORDER. ALL COUNCILORS WILL BE PRESENT, COUNCILOR BACA IS GOING TO BE LATE. WE'LL BEGIN WITH THE MOMENT OF SILENCE FOLLOWED BY THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE IN ENGLISH AND SPANISH. [ INAUDIBLE ]. >>COUN. BASSAN: CIVICS PLAZA PARKING PASSES ARE PROVIDED FOR MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC. HAVE THE ABILITY VOOVIEW THIS MEETING IN PERSON AND LIVE STREAM THROUGH FOUR PLAT ITFIRMS. GOVTV, GOVTV WEBSITE, YOUTUBE AND ZOOM. LIVE STREAMS CAN BE ACCESSED FROM MOST SMART PHONES TABLETS AND COMPUTERS. YOU MAY ENABLE THE CLOSED CAPTION SERVICE AT THIS TIME. THE RECORDING OF THIS AND ALL PAST COUNCIL MEETINGS WILL REMAIN VIEWABLE ON THE CITY COUNCIL WEBSITE. MEMBERS OF THE STAFF IS AVAILABLE IF YOU NEED ASSISTANCE. CALL 505-768-3100 FOR ASSISTANCE DURING BUSINESS HOURS MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY 8:00 A.M. TO 5:00 P.M. THE COUNCIL WILL TAKE A BREAK AT 7:00. WITH REGARD TO DORM, WE WANT TONIGHT'S PROCEEDINGS TO BE AS CIVIL AS POSSIBLE. NO PERSONAL ATTACKS AND NO APPLAUSE, SNAPPING OR OUTBURSE -- I WILL PROVIDE AN WARNING. UPON THE SECOND DISRUPTION THAT INDIVIDUAL WILL BE ASKED TO LEAVE THE CHAMBERS AND SECURITY WILL BE ASKED TO ESCORT THEM OUT. AND IF CONTINUED DISRUPTIONS OCCUR, I MAY RECESS THE MEETING UNTIL ORDER IS RESTORED AND IF NECESSARY MAKE CLEAR THE CHAMBERS OF THE PERSONS PARTICIPATING. THE MEETING WILL GO SMOOTHER IF WE'RE RESPECTFUL OF ONE ANOTHER. WE'LL BEGIN WITH PROCLAMATIONS AND PRESENTATIONS. COUNCILOR GROUT. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I MOVE THE RULES BE SUSPENDED FOR ALLOWING MORE THAN FOUR PROCLAMATIONS PER COUNCILOR PER CALENDAR YEAR. >>COUN. BASSAN: MOTION, AND SECOND BY COUNCILOR CHAMPINE. DO WE HAVE COUNCILOR BACA ON ZOOM OR NO? OKAY. HE IS EXCUSED. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE RULE SUS PENSION RAISE YOUR HAND AND SAY YES. THAT PASSES ON AN 8-0 VOTE. >>COUN. GROUT: I WOULD -- THIS PROCLAMATION IS RECOGNIZING THE FOOTHILLS APD RESPONSE TEAM. ACCEPTING THIS EVENING IS SERGEANT MOORE AND THE FOOTHILLS PRT. PLEASE COME TO THE FRONT. >>COUN. BASSAN: AS THEY MAKE THEIR WAY DOWN, DO YOU WANT TO START READING THE PROCLAMATION IN. >>COUN. GROUT: YES, THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. WHEREADS AS PROACTIVE RESPONSE TEAM IS LEAD BY DOU MOORE, AND DERRICK MANY, OFFICER ERIC MONTOYA, OFFICER ANDREW REMNOWSKI. AND THE MISSION IS TO ADDRESS LOW LEVEL CRIMES THAT IMPACT THE COMMUNITY'S COMFORT AND SENSE OF SAFETY THROUGH HIGH VISIBILITY ENFORCEMENT. WHEREAS IN THE FIRST 11 MONTHS OF 2025, THE PRT MADE 564 FELONY ARRESTS. CLEARED 484 FELONY WARRANTS. MADE 298 MISDEMEANOR ARRESTS. AND CLEARED 657 MISDEMEANOR WARRANTS AND AROUND A QUARTER OF THESE ARRESTS WERE MADE BY OFFICER ASHLEY MARTINEZ. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: WHEREAS APD'S 2025 UNIFORM OFFICER OF THE YEAR IS ASHLEY MARTINEZ LACONE WHO EARNED BACHELORS AND MASTER'S DEGREE AT NEW MEXICO STATE. AND HAS BEEN WITH APD FIELD SERVICE BUREAU SINCE 2017. WITH HER DESIRE TO HELP OTHERS AND SOLID WORK ETHIC MADE HER A MODEL OFFICER, ACCOUNTING FOR 27% OF THE STATISTICS AND 149 FELONY ARRESTS, AND 77 MISDEMEANORS, AND CLEARING 149 MISDEMEANOR WARRANTS THROUGH NOVEMBER OF THIS YEAR. EARNED A MEDDLE FOR OUTSTANDING SERVICE AFTER JEOPARDIZING HER OWN SAFETY TO SAVE THE LIFE OF A CITIZEN IN OCTOBER OF 2020. AND WHEREAS APD'S 2024 UNIFORM OFFICER OF THE YEAR WAS ERIC MONTOYA WHO HAS BEEN WITH APD SINCE 2019, LEADS THE TEAM IN ENFORCEMENT STATISTICS AND GOES ABOVE AND BEYOND THE CALL OF DUTY IN EVERY TAVING UNDERTAKEN, EARNING RESPECT OF PEERS, GRATITUDE OF CITIZENS AND IN HIS OFF-DUTY HOURS COACHES A JUNIOR WRESTLING CLUB. AND KYLE SALBERING HAS MADE SEVERAL HIGH PROFILE ARRESTS IN THE LAST FEW WEEKS CLEARING MULTIPLE NARCOTICS TRAFFICKING WARNS, AND REMOVING DRUGS FROM THE STREET ZRB -- HE SPENDS HELPING THE INVESTIGATIONS AND COMPLETING THE CASES. AND SEVERAL WEEKS AGO OFFICER ANDREW SINGLE-HANDEDLY ARRESTED A MEMBER OF THEARIAN BROTHERHOOD GANG WITH A MULTIPLE FELONY ARREST, AND SEVERAL BAGS OF FENTANYL. THIS GANG MEMBER IS BACK BEHIND BARS TO FINISH SERVING HIS 20-YEAR SENTENCE AND FACE THE JUDGE FOR THE COMMITTED CRIMES. >>COUN. GROUT: WHEREAS ALTHOUGH OFFICERS THERE IS NEW MEMBERS TO THE TEAM, THEY'RE MAKING GREAT CONTRIBUTIONS. RECENTLY FIND AGMURDER SUSPECT WHO HAD BEEN ON THE RUN FOR OVER A YEAR. WHEREAS, THESE OFFICERS WORK TO LOCATE CRIMINAL ACTIVITY AND ENFORCE OUR LAWS BEFORE CALLS FOR SERVICE EVEN COME IN. THEY HAVE REMOVED A LARGE NUMBER OF GUN AND NARCOTICS FROM OUR STREETS. AND THEIR WORK IS AIDING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, JOB GROWTH AND SENSE OF SAFETY FOR RESIDENTS AND BUSINESS OWNERS IN THE FOOTHILLS AND NORTHEAST HEIGHTS. THEREFORE BE IT PROCLAIMED THE COUNCIL, THE GOVERNING BODY OF THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE, HEREBY RECOGNIZES THE PROACTIVE RESPONSE TEAM AND THANKS THEM AND THEIR SERVICE TO THE CITIZENS OF ALBUQUERQUE. [ APPLAUSE ]. >>COUN. GROUT: I AM SO PROUD OF EVERYTHING YOU DO. YOU GUYS KNOW THE FOOTHILLS. COUNCILOR CHAMPINE AND I ARE VERY LUCKY TO HAVE YOU ALL SERVING IN OUR AREA. WE SEE YOU ALL THE TIME. AND YOU KNOW EVERY HILL AND EVERY ARROYO AND YOU KNOW THE PLACE. AND WE SEE THE EVIDENCE OF WHAT YOU DO. FOUR YEARS AGO, WHEN I CAME IN, THERE WERE A LOT OF THINGS GOING ON THAT PEOPLE SAW DAILY. AND IN THE FOUR YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN HAVING THE PLEASURE TO WORK WITH YOU ALL, PEOPLE HAVE ALSO SEEN HAD -- THE CHANGE YOU'RE MAKING. I'M PROUD THAT THREE OUT OF THE LAST FOUR YEARS OFFICER OF THE YEAR FOR APD HAS COME OUT OF THE FOOTHILLS. THAT'S PRETTY REMARKABLE. YOU GUYS DO IT WITH GRACE. YOU DO IT WITH COMPASSION. AND YOU DO IT BY THE LAW. YOU FOLLOW THE LAW. I APPRECIATE THAT VERY MUCH. I WANT TO ALSO THANK THE LEADERSHIP. SERGEANT MOORE IS OUTSTANDING. HE LEADS THIS FINE TEAM OF OFFICERS AND I THINK THERE'S A GREAT RESPECT FOR WHAT HE DOES. AND COMMANDER WITTEN, HE HAS BEEN -- HE'S NEW TO OUR AREA. AND HE HAS TAKEN UP WHERE COMMANDER JONES AND COMMANDER GARRET LEFT HIM. SO, HE'S BEEN REALLY LUCKY TO HAVE YOU. DC BARKER, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR LEADING THESE FOLKS. AND LETTING THEM SERVE IN OUR COMMUNITY. I CAN TELL YOU THE CONSTITUENTS IN DISTRICT NINE AND DISTRICT EIGHT ARE VERY GRATEFUL FOR EVERYTHING THEY'VE DONE. CAN I ASK YOU TO SAY SOMETHING, DC BARKER, AND I WANT TO HAVE ASHLEY TALK A LITTLE BIT. >> THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT. COUNCILOR CHAMPINE, AND COUNCILORS. I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR RECOGNIZING THE WONDERFUL WORK OF THESE OFFICERS. IT'S ON A DAILY BASIS WHERE I'M READING ALERTS THAT ALWAYS INCLUDE THE FOOTHILLS PRT. THAT IS NO EXAGGERATION. EVERY DAY I'M SENDING THEM RESPONSES SAYING WHAT A GREAT JOB THEY DO. I'M VERY APPRECIATIVE OF OF THE WORK THEY DO. WE HAVE TO A TEAM LIKE THIS IN EVERY AREA COMMAND. WE GO TO THEM FOR THE HARDEST ASK. THEY'RE THE HARDEST WORKERS. I WANT TO ECHO WHAT YOU SAID AND THANK THEM PERSONALLY FOR THE WORK THEY CONTINUE TO DO. OFFICER MARTINEZ, I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY OF WORKING WITH YOU AS A SUPERVISOR FOR QUITE SOMETIME. WHEN YOU CAME AS -- OUT OF THE ACADEMY, AND YOU CONTINUE TO DO FANTASTIC WORK. THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU DO. AND KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILORS, ANYTHING ELSE YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADD? COUNCILOR CHAMPINE. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. DOUG IS SMILING AT ME. IT'S BECAUSE HE WAS A RECRUIT FOR A WHILE IN THE SQUAD I WAS IN. HE'S ALWAYS BEEN DOUG. NOW HE'S SUPERVIOR DOUG. I'M NOT SURPRISED. BEING A POLICE OFFICER IS A CALLING. AND IT AFFECTS YOUR LIFE COMPLETELY. SO, YOU KNOW IT'S IN YOUR HEART. AND YOU KNOW YOU'RE TRYING TO DO THE RIGHT THING DAY IN AND DAY OUT. YOU TRY TO DO MORE GOOD THAN BAD. YOU CAN SEE IT IN THE TEAM THAT YOU GUYS PUT FORTH YOUR BEST EFFORTS BUT YOUR SUPERVISOR ALLOWS YOU AND GIVES YOU THE FREEDOM TO DO WHAT IS RIGHT IN YOUR HEART. THIS IS A GREAT EXAMPLE OF HOW LEADERSHIP SHOULD BE IN THE SENSE OF TRUSTING IN THEIR OFFICERS AND TEAM TO DO THE RIGHT THING AND GUIDING THEM WHEN THEY HAVE QUESTIONS. I'M NOT SURPRISED THREE OUT OF THE LAST FOUR COME OUT OF THE FOOTHILLS. TWO YEARS IN A ROW COMES OUT OF THIS TEAM. YOU PUT FORTH YOUR BEST EFFORT. THE SUPERVISORS GIVE YOU THE FREEDOM TO DO WHAT YOU NEED TO DO. IT GOES FURTHER UP THE CHAIN OF COMMAND. THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF HOW IT SHOULD BE RUN. LET YOUR OFFICERS DO THE WORK. TRUST WHEN THEY DO IT. AND SUPPORT THEM. THANK YOU GUYS. I REALLY APPRECIATE IT. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO SAY THANKS TO EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU. ALSO JUST A LITTLE CLARIFICATION. I KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE. I WAS THE FOOTHILLS COMMANDER AT ONE POINT. I KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE. AND ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS THAT PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE IS THE FOOTHILLS IS A VERY DIFFICULT PLACE TO WORK. THERE'S A LOT MORE GOING ON IN THE FOOTHILLS THAN YOU THINK. YOU THINK IT'S NOT AS ROWDY OR RADICAL. I CAME FROM THERE. I SAW IT. YOU'RE DOING AN EXCEPTIONAL JOB. IT'S HUGE AREA COMMAND. IT STRETCHES LONG WAY ACROSS THE EAST CITY LIMITS. I KNOW HOW HARD IT IS TO NAVIGATE THAT. ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU HAVE OFFICERS ON ONE SIDE TO THE OTHER TO MAKE SURE YOU GET THAT BACKUP AND 82 OVER THERE. I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU'VE DONE AND THOSE AMAZING ACCOMPLISHMENTS. WHEN YOU-LOOK AT THE WORK THAT COUNCILOR GROUT READ OUT, I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THAT'S PROACTIVE POLICE WORK. THAT MEANS THESE OFFICERS ARE DOING THE JOB THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE WITHOUT ANYBODY TELLING THEM THERE'S THE NEED AND THEY'RE TAKING CARE OF IT. THEY'RE ATTACKING THE PROBLEM. I APPRECIATE THAT. ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS IS DEPUTY CHIEF SAID SEL ALERTS. WE RECEIVE THOSE ALERT AND SEE WHAT'S GOING ON. SO WE KNOW WHAT SIGNIFICANT EVENTS YOU'RE DOING AND HANDLING. THANK YOU FOR THAT AS WELL. AND THEN, ALSO, NEXT THING I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT IS THE FAMILIES. I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOUR FAMILIES FOR ALLOWING TO WORK AS HARD AS YOU DO BECAUSE IT'S A CALLING, JUST LIKE COUNCILOR SAID. IT'S AN AMAZING THING THAT YOU GUYS ARE OUT THERE WORKING AS HARD AS YOU ARE. YOU CAN'T SAY IT ENOUGH THAT THE FAMILIES, AND IF YOUR FAMILIES ARE HERE, WAVE AND SAY HELLO. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR PUTTING UP WITH ALL THOSE LONG HOW ARES AND THE HARD WORK THESE PEOPLE ARE PUTTING IN FOR THE SAFETY AND SECURITY OF THE DEPARTMENT. LAST BUT NOT LEAST, THANK YOU FOR LACK-LOOKING FOR LOOKING TIPTOP. WHEN YOU'RE DOING YOUR JOB AND LOOKING TIPTOP YOU GET THE RESPECT. I APPRECIATE THAT. HAVE A WONDERFUL DAY, EVERYONE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. I MISS DOING IT. [ INAUDIBLE ]. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: GO FOR IT. >> THANK YOU, CITY COUNCILORS, FOR INVITING OUR TEAM TONIGHT. I WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DO THE THINGS I DO WITHOUT THE TEAM. WE'RE LIKE -- THIS IS MY FAMILY. I PROBABLY SEE THEM MORE THAN MY OWN FAMILY. I APPRECIATE THEM VERY MUCH. AND LIKE YOU SAID, COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, I WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DO WHAT WE DO WITHOUT OUR FAMILY. I HAVE MY MOM AND DAD AND MY HUSBAND HERE. I KNOW OUR OTHER TEAMMATES HAVE FAMILY. I LOVE YOU GUYS AND I APPRECIATE YOU VERY MUCH. AGAIN, I WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DO WHAT WE DO WITHOUT OUR SERGEANT. SERGEANT MOORE IS THE BEST LEADER I KNOW. BEEN MY SERGEANT FOR MANY YEARS NOW. AND IF WE DIDN'T HAVE HIM ADVOCATING FOR US AND SUPPORTING US, WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DO THE JOB WE DO. IT GOES UP THE RANKS EVEN TO COMMANDER WITTEN, DEPUTY CHIEF, CHIEF. THANK YOU FOR SUPPORTING US. AND ONE AGAIN, I WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DO THE STUFF I DO WITHOUT THE SUPPORT OF THE TEAM. THANK YOU GUYS FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO TOO. AND THANK YOU FOR INVITING US AND ACKNOWLEDGING US. WE'RE VERY GRATEFUL FOR THAT. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR LEWIS. >>COUN. LEWIS: MADAM PRESIDENT, JUST FANTASTIC JOB OF RECOGNITION THAT IS WELL DESERVED. AND THE ONLY THING I'LL SAY IS I HOPIA -- YOU FEEL AND KNOW THIS IS A CITY, AND I HOPE WE HAVE MORE AND MORE OF REPUTATION THAT HAS THE BACK OF OUR POLICE OFFICERS AND WILL DO EVERYTHING WE CAN DO SUPPORT YOU TO DO THE JOB YOU'RE CALLED TO DO. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >>COUN. BASSAN: WE APPRECIATE YOU SO MUCH. CONGRATULATIONS. IF YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND WALK THROUGH TO SHAKE OUR HANDS, WE WOULD BE HONORED. [ APPLAUSE ]. >>COUN. BASSAN: ALL RIGHT. MOVING ON, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A PRESENTATION. COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I WANTED TO INVITE AMY KENDRICK DOWN. I DIDN'T SEE HER. IS SHE ONLINE? WELL, MADAM PRESIDENT. MY PRESENTATION DOES NOT SEEM TO BE IN THE AUDIENCE. LET'S JUST MOVE ON. >>COUN. BASSAN: OKAY. WELL, MAYBE AROUND THE BEND. WITH THAT, COUNCILORS, WE'RE DONE WITH PROCLAMATIONS AND PRESENTATIONS. WE'LL GO TO OTHER BUSINESS. I WOULD MOVE TO -- I'M SORRY. START OVER. I MOVE TO EXECUTIVE SESSION TO DISCUSS MATTERS RELATED TO NMSA1978 SECTION 10- 15-H7 TO DISCUSSION SUBJECT TO ATTORNEY CLIENT PRIVILEGE PERTAIN TO MAYOR KELLER, VERSUS ALBUQUERQUE CITY COUNCIL LITIGATION MATTERS. WE WILL NEED TO DO A ROLL CALL VOTE. IF I GET A SECOND. THERE'S A-SECOND BY COUNCILOR ROGERS. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: [ INAUDIBLE ]. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >> PASSES ON A 6-0 VOTE. [ EXECUTIVE SESSION ]. >>COUN. BASSAN: ALL RIGHT. WE ARE BACK FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION. ARE AFFIRM THAT MATTERS DISCUSSED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION WERE LIMITED TO THOSE SPECIFIED IN THE MOTION FOR CLOSURE. AND WE ARE GOING TO GO ON TO SOME MORE ANNOUNCEMENTS. IT'S NOT FORMALLY ANNOUNCEMENTS. THAT'S OKAY. I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE A MINUTE TO -- SOMETHING I LOVE DOING, THANKING PEOPLE. I WANT TO THANK THE 2025 COMMITTEE CHAIRS FOR THEIR SERVICE THIS YEAR. OUR STAFF IS MADE TO PLACE GAVELS IN EACH OF YOUR OFFICES. THANK YOU WERE -- COUNCILOR GROUT, FOR BEING A GREAT COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE CHAIR. THANK YOU, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE, FOR BEING AN AWESOME FINANCE AND OPERATIONS COMMITTEE CHAIR. AND THANK YOU, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, FOR BEING AN EXTREMELY AWESOME LAND USE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMITTEE CHAIR. I ALSO WANT TO THANK COUNCILOR PEÑA FOR SERVING AS AN EXTREMELY AWESOME VICE PRESIDENT OF THE COUNCIL IN 2025. AND DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY REMARKS FOR VICE PRESIDENT PENA? NOW IS YOUR CHANCE. ALL RIGHT. I WOULD LIKE TO THANK COUNCILOR SANCHEZ FOR SERVING DISTRICT ONE FOR FOUR YEARS. THANK YOU SO MUCH. WELL DONE. I MEANT TO COMPLIMENT YOU ON YOUR NEW FACIAL HAIR. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY REMARKS FOR COUNCILOR SANCHEZ? MADAM VICE PRESIDENT. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I WANT TO CONGRATULATE YOU. YOU'VE DONE AN AWESOME JOB THESE FOUR YEARS WORKING TOGETHER ON MANY ISSUES THAT WE HAVE BECAUSE WE HAVE ADJOINING BOUNDARIES. I APPRECIATE YOU. ANY TIME I ASK YOU FOR ANYTHING, STREET LIGHTS, OR ANY EVENTS WE COORDINATED TOGETHER, YOU'RE ALWAYS THERE. I THINK THE PEOPLE OF YOUR DISTRICT ARE GOING TO MISS YOU DEARLY. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR ROGERS. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU FOR -- WE'VE GOT TO DO A LOT OF GREAT DEBATES. I'M GOING TO MISS THAT. WE CAN ALWAYS DEBATE IT OUT BUT STILL BE COOL AT THE END. I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU FOR SUPPORTING THINGS IN MY DISTRICT. I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU EVEN -- EVEN WITH ALL THAT, WE SUPPORTED EACH OTHER AND YOU PUT MONEY IN MY DISTRICT. I APPRECIATE YOU FOR THAT. AND TEACHING ME GOOD DEBATE. THANK YOU. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR GROUT. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE SITTING NEXT TO YOU AND WORKING WITH YOU. AND GETTING TO KNOW YOU. I THINK YOU AND YOUR FAMILY ARE FINE, FINE PEOPLE. I'M GLAD I GOT THE OPPORTUNITY. THANK YOU FOR REPRESENTING THE PEOPLE IN YOUR DISTRICT. I KNOW YOU DID IT WITH HEART. AND I LOOK FORWARD TO -- I KNOW THAT YOU LOOK FORWARD TO THE FUTURE AND GETTING BACK TO BUSINESS. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU. >>COUN. GROUT: AND MAKING A LIVING. THANK YOU. I HOPE YOU DO EVERYTHING. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, THIS IS YOUR LAST MEETING. COUNCILOR LEWIS FIRST, AND WE'LL GO BACK TO COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. >>COUN. LEWIS: MADAM PRESIDENT, THANK YOU TO COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. I REALLY ENJOYED SERVING WITH YOU THE LAST FOUR YEARS. ESPECIALLY AS A WEST SIDE CITY COUNCILOR. I THINK WE GOT A LOT DONE. YOU GOT A LOT OF PROJECTS AND THINGS YOU CAN BE EXTREMELY PROUD OF. AND MANY THINGS WE WORKED ON TOGETHER. AND ON THE COUNCIL, THANKS FOR BEING A GREAT VOICE. YOU ARE ALWAYS SO RESERVES ON THIS COUNCIL. THAT'S A JOKE. YOU KNOW, I THINK THERE'S A TENDENCY SOMETIMES FOR -- TO BE A FLY ON THE WALL AND MAYBE LET THINGS GO AND WHEN SOMETIMES WHEN THINGS NEED TO BE SAID AND BROUGHT UP, AND THERE'S A TENDENCY I THINK TO DO THAT. I APPRECIATE THAT YOU'VE SAID THINGS THAT ARE ON YOUR MIND AND WHAT YOU BELIEVE TO BE THE BEST FOR THE CITY AND PUSHING US FORWARD AND THIS WASN'T FOUR YEARS OF JUST WATCHING, IT WAS, HEY I'M GOING TO BE ACTIVE AND JUMP IN HERE AND DO WHAT I CAN FOR THE CITY. I APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. I KNOW YOU HAVE A WONDERFUL BUSINESS. YOU'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO GROW. AND WE JUST WISH YOU THE VERY BEST. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU VERY MUCH COUNCILOR. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, THIS IS YOUR LAST MEETING TONIGHT. DO YOU WANT YOUR OWN SOAPBOX FOR A MINUTE? >>COUN. SANCHEZ: SURE. I THINK ONE OF THE BIGGEST THANKS TO ALL IS THE COUNCIL STAFF. THEY WERE ALWAYS THERE FOR ME EVERY SINGLE DAY AND EVERY STEP OF THE WAY. WITHOUT THE COUNCIL STAFF, I WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DO WHAT WE'VE DONE, ANY OF US. I THINK ALL OF US DON'T GIVE ENOUGH CREDIT WHERE CREDIT IS DUE AND THIS STAFF THAT WE HAVE INCREDIBLE. AND THEY WORK TIRELESSLY FOR US. I WANT TO THANK BRANDON, MY POLICY ANALYST WHO HAS BEEN THERE FOR ME EVERY STEP OF THE WAY. WE WORK REALLY HARD TO DO EVERYTHING THAT WE NEEDED TO DO ON OUR COUNCIL AND WITHIN OUR DISTRICT. BRANDON WAS ANSWERING NUMEROUS CALLS. WE WERE EXTREMELY BUSY. I KNOW WE'RE ONE OF THE BUSIEST DISTRICTS WHEN IT COMES TO PHONE CALL AND ANSWERING CONSTITUENTS. I GOT TO MEET SO MANY WONDERFUL PEOPLE. THE PEOPLE THAT WORK IN THE OFFICE. BEING UP HERE I GAINED GREAT FRIENDSHIPS WITH ALL OF THE GREAT COUNCILORS. THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS I THINK WAS THE BIGGEST THING. COUNCILOR ROGERS TOUCHED ON IT A BIT. THE FACT ALL OF US UP HERE, WE ALL SEEM TO BE ABLE TO GET ALONG AND WORK TOGETHER WHEN THE TIME COMES. EVEN THOUGH WE DISAGREE ON CERTAIN THINGS, IT'S ALWAYS BEEN A GOOD RELATIONSHIP. WE'VE ALWAYS BEEN ABLE TO GET ALONG AND TALK TO EACH OTHER. AND ACTUALLY COMMUNICATE. I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK IS PROBABLY THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS CONTINUED TO COMMUNICATE AND WORK TOGETHER AND WORK TOGETHER TO MAKE SURE THINGS ARE GOING THE WAY THEY NEED TO GO. FOR ME, MY BIGGEST THING WAS ACCOUNTABILITY TRANSPARENCY AND I HOPE THAT EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU CONTINUE THAT TREND WITH EXPECTING TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY. IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S MOST IMPORTANT FOR US. DID A LOT OF GOOD WORK ON THE WEST SIDE. I THINK WE SPENT, WITH LEGISLATIVE MONEY, CITY, STATE AND LOCAL MONEY, PROBABLY CLOSE TO $100 MILLION IN IMPROVEMENTS ON THE WEST SIDE. THAT'S WITH THE HELP OF EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU AND THE LEGISLATIVE PARTNER AND FEDERAL PARTNERS. IT'S BANE JOY -- BEEN A JOY TO MAKE SURE WE'VE DONE THE WORK AND DONE IT TOGETHER. ALSO EVERY SINGLE PARK IN DISTRICT ONE WAS TOUCHED. EVERY PARK HAD SOMETHING PUT INTO IT. I'D LIKE TO THANK PARKS AND REC. DAVID FLORES AND DAVE SIMON. AZIZA WAS INSTRUMENTAL. I MADE A DEMAND THAT THE MONEY STAYS WITH THE PEOPLE. EVERY SINGLE YEAR WE GUT OUR SET ASIDE AND LEGISLATIVE MONEY I MADE SURE EVERY DOLLAR WENT BACK INTO THE PUBLIC AND WAS USED FOR PUBLIC USE. DIDN'T HOLD ON TO ANYTHING. GOT IT ALL OUT TO TO YOU. AND MADE SURE EVERY SINGLE PERSON WAS ABLE TO UTILIZE THAT MONEY. IF THERE'S ANYTHING LEFT, I'M GOING TO COME BACK AND SAY WE NEED TO FIND A PLACE TO SPEND IT. THANKS TO EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU. EVERYBODY THAT WAS HERE. AND EVERYONE PART OF ME HAVING A GOOD TIME UP HERE AND HANGING OUT WITH EVERYBODY. LIKE I SAID, IT'S BEEN A REALLY WONDERFUL AND ENJOYABLE TIME. IT'S TIME TO GET BACK TO WORK. WHAT I MEAN BACK TO WORK, THAT MEANS GET BACK TO BUSINESS. THAT'S WHAT I INTEND TO DO. THANKS EVERYONE. THANKS TO THE STAFF. BRANDON, THANK YOU SO MUCH. I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU. AND AZIZA. THANK YOU SO MUCH. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR. THANK YOU SO MUCH. [ APPLAUSE ]. >>COUN. PEÑA: MADAM PRESIDENT, WE WANT TO ALL THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP THIS YEAR. I THINK YOU'VE DONE AN OUTSTANDING JOB. OBVIOUSLY, AS A WOMAN, I THINK YOU REALLY PROVIDED CLEAR CONSISTENT MESSAGING TO US. I LOVE THAT YOU FOLLOW ROBERT'S RULES AND IT'S REALLY REFRESHING TO SEE HOW YOU'VE BEEN ABLE TO KEEP US TOGETHER AND ON TRACK. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, ALL. THANKS TO ALL OF YOU. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. WITH THAT, WE'RE MOVING TO THE JOURNAL. I MOVE APPROVAL OF THE DECEMBER 1st JOURNAL. THERE'S A SECOND BY COUNCILOR ROGERS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR RAISE YOUR HAND AND SAY YES. ANYONE OPPOSED? THAT PASSES ON A 9-0 VOTE. COMMUNICATIONS AND INTRODUCTIONS. I MOVE THAT THE RULES BE SUSPENDED TO AMEND THE LETTER OF INTRODUCTION TO PLACE OC-59 ON THE JANUARY 5th COUNCIL AGENDA FOR ACTION. OC-59 IS REQUEST FOR IMMEDIATE REVIEW OF THE CITY ATTORNEY CONDUCT AND COMPLIANCE WITH CONFLICT OF INTEREST REQUIREMENTS IN MAYOR VERSUS CITY COUNCIL LITIGATION. THERE'S SECOND BY COUNCILOR CHAMPINE AND COUNCILOR GROUT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF PUTTING THIS ON THE JANUARY 5th AGENDA, RAISE YOUR HAND AND SAY YES. ANYONE OPPOSED? THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. I ALSO MOVE THE RULES BE SUSPENDED FOR THE PURPOSE OF PLACING EC-548 ON AGENDA FOR ACTION. APPROVAL OF CONTRACT WITH IDEMIA TO PROVIDE AND AFIS AUTOMATED FINGERPRINT SYSTEM PLATFORM. THERE'S SECOND BY COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR RAISE YOUR HAND AND SAY YES. ANYONE OPPOSED? THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: MADAM PRESIDENT, I MOVE THE RULES BE SUSPENDED FOR PLACING OC-57 ON TONIGHT AGENDA FOR ACTION. IT'S APPOINTING MEMBER TO THE OPEN SPACE ADVISORY BOARD. >>COUN. BASSAN: MOTION AND SECOND BY THE VICE PRESIDENT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR RAISE YOUR HAND AND SAY YES. THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: I MOVE THE RULES BE SUSPENDED FOR PLACING R-219 ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA. IT'S ESTABLISHING ONE-TIME SUPPLEMENTAL COMPENSATION PAYMENT FOR CITY EMPLOYEES BASED ON ENDING FISCAL YEAR 25 GENERAL FUND BALANCE. >>COUN. BASSAN: MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR RAISE YOUR HAND AND SAY YES. ANYONE OPPOSED? THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. COUNCILOR GROUT. >>COUN. GROUT: MADAM PRESIDENT, I MOVE THE RULES BE SUSPENDED FOR PLACING R-215 ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA FOR ACTION. IT'S ADJUSTING FISCAL YEAR 2025 APPROPRIATION FOR CERTAIN FUNDS AND PROGRAMS TO PROVIDE FOR ACTUAL EXPENDITURE AND ADJUSTING FISCAL YEAR 2026 OPERATION APPROPRIATION. >>COUN. BASSAN: THERE'S MOTION AND A SECOND BY COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR RAISE YOUR HAND AND SAY YES. ANYONE OPPOSED? THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. COUNCILOR GROUT. >>COUN. GROUT: MADAM PRESIDENT, I MOVE TO AMEND THE LETTER OF INTRODUCTION TO WITHDRAW 25-105 WITH AN EXPLANATION. >>COUN. BASSAN: MOTION, AND A SECOND BY MADAM VICE PRESIDENT. COUNCILOR GROUT. >>COUN. GROUT: I WANT TO -- IN WORKING WITH THE SPIRIT OF COOPERATION, I MET WITH THE MAYOR. WE HAD A NICE CONVERSATION. AT THIS TIME, I WOULD LIKE TO WITHDRAW -- I CAN ALWAYS BRING IT BACK. I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH THE NEW DIRECTORS AND IN THE NEW YEAR AND HOPEFULLY THINGS WILL GO SMOOTHER AND BETTER. I CAN ALWAYS BRING IT BACK. >>COUN. BASSAN: THERE'S A MOTION TO WITHDRAW R-105 FROM THE LETTER OF INTRODUCTION. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR RAISE YOUR HAND AND SAY YES. ANYONE OPPOSED? THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. COUNCILORS, ANY OTHER CHANGES TO THE LETTER OF INTRODUCTION? SEEING NONE. I MOVE APRUFBL -- APPROVAL OF THE LETTER. MOTION AND SECOND BY COUNCILOR GROUT AND COUNCILOR CHAMPINE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR RAISE YOUR HAND AND SAY YES. ANYONE OPPOSED? THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. WE NO LONGER HAVE APPROVALS SINCE WE PUT IT ON THE JANUARY AGENDA. WE DO HAVE APPROVALS. WE HAVE EC-544. APPROVAL OF RISK FIRST SUPMENTAL AGREEMENT TO ADD FUND FOR OUTSIDE COUNSEL LEGAL SERVICES BETWEEN BARDACKE AND CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE. THERE'S A MOTION AND SEVERAL SECONDS. I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. COUNCILORS, ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? SEEING NONE. MOTION IS TO APPROVE EC-544. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR RAISE YOUR HAND. THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. MOVE TO REPORTS OF COMMITTEES. COUNCILOR CHAMPINE. SDMRCH THANK YOU, MAD SGLNG. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: >>COUN. CHAMPINE: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. FINANCE AND GOVERNMENT OPERATIONS COMMITTEE MET ON MONDAY, DECEMBER 8, 2025, AND REPORTS THE FOLLOWING. IN THE MATTER OF EC482 AND EC537, THAT THEY BE APPROVED. AND IN THE MATTER OF R-2025, R-205 AND R211, DO PASS. IN THE MATTER OF R209 DO PASS AS AMENDED. IN THE MATTER OF R-212 FAILS AS AMENDED. I MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE COMMITTEE REPORT. >>COUN. BASSAN: THERE'S A MOTION, AND SECOND BY COUNCILOR GROUT AND COUNCILOR ROGERS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR RAISE YOUR HAND AND SAY YES. ANYONE OPPOSED? THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. COUNCILOR BACA. >>COUN. BACA: THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. I MAKE A MOTION TO REVIVE R-25-21 AND PLACE THIS ON THE JANUARY 5th COUNCIL AGENDA FOR ACTION. RELATE TO THE APPROVAL OF REDEVELOPMENT TAX ABATEMENT FOR THE MULTIRESIDENTIAL PROJECT DEVELOPED BY 4th AND LA PLATA LLC. >>COUN. BASSAN: MOTION AND SECOND BY COUNCILOR CHAMPINE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR RAISE YOUR HAND AND SAY YES. ANYONE OPPOSED? THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. ANY DEFERRALS OR WITHDRAWALSS? COUNCILOR ROGERS. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I WOULD LIKE TO DEFER OR-102 ADOPTING THE ORDINANCE TO CODIFY PROVISION OF THE NEW MEXICO STATE SENATE REGARDING RENTAL PRACTICES, FEES, FEE DISCLOSURE AND LATE FEES REQUIRING OWNERS TO OFFER A NO FEE PAYMENT OPTION. >>COUN. BASSAN: THERE'S A MOTION FOR DEFERRAL TO JANUARY 5th AND SECOND BY MADAM VICE PRESIDENT. COUNCILORS, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR RAISE YOUR HAND AND SAY YES. ANYONE OPPOSED? 4-5? 5-4? WE'RE GOING TO WAIT TO HAVE CONFIRMATION FROM THE CLERK. THAT IS DEFERRED. OKAY. WE WENT AHEAD AND DEFERRED. O102. ANY OTHER DEFERRALS OR WITHDRAWALS? ALL RIGHT. MOVE TO THE CONSENT AGENDA. ARE THERE ANY CHANGES TO THE CONSENT AGENDA? SEEING NONE. FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS ON TONIGHT'S CONSENT AGENDA BEING APPOINTED TO SERVE ON A BOARD OR COMMISSION, THANK YOU FOR YOUR WILLINGNESS TO SERVE. I MOVE APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT AGENDA. SECOND BY COUNCILOR GROUT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR RAISE YOUR HAND AND SAY YES. ANYONE OPPOSED? THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. WE HAVE IS NO ANNOUNCEMENTS, NO FINANCIAL INSTRUMENTS. NO APPEALS. NOW WE'RE ON TO GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC CAN PROVIDE LIVE PUBLIC COMMENT TO THE COUNCIL IN PERSON OR VIRTUALLY IF THEY HAVE SIGNED FROM THE PUBLIC COMMENT PER THE INSTRUCTIONS PUBLISHED ON THE AGENDA AND ON OUR WEBSITE FRIDAY. THE PUBLIC COMMENT GROUND RULES ARE THAT EACH PARTICIPANT HAS TWO MINUTES TO PRESENT. COMMENTS ARE TO BE ADDRESSED TO THE COUNCILORS THROUGH THE COUNCIL PRESIDENT AND ANY DISRUPTIVE CONDUCT WILL RESULT IN REMOVAL FROM THE MEETING. YOU WILL BE CALLED DOWN AND THERE WILL BE A TWO-MINUTE TIME LIMIT AND A BELL WILL RING TO INDICATE YOUR TIME IS UP. IF YOU'RE ON DECK PLEASE START MAKE YOUR WAY TO THE FRONT ONCE YOUR NAME IS CALLED. IF YOU WILL CALL THE NAME FIRST SPEAKER. >> THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT, FIRST SPEAKER IS ELEN FOLLOWED BY KRISTEN. KRISTEN FOLLOWED BY SHIRLEY. >> GOOD EVENING. I AM HERE TO SPEAK TO YOU ABOUT RANK CHOICE VOTING. ONE OF THE MOST COMMENTEN ARGUMENTS IS ONE PERSON ONE VOTE. THIS FUNDAMENTALLY MISUNDERSTANDS HOW RANK CHOICE WORKS. UNDER RANK CHOICE IS CANDIDATE RECEIVES 50% OF THE VOTE THEY WIN IMMEDIATELY. IF THE FRONT-RUNNER RECEIVES LESS THAN THAT, THE CANDIDATE WITH THE FEWEST VOTES IS ELIMINATED. IN THE SAME WAY THAT RECEIVED 1 TO 19D WERE ELIMINATED FROM THE RUNOFF IN THE MAYORAL ELECTION. THE DIFFERENCE IS THE VOTE IS REDISTRIBUTED TO THE VOTER'S SECOND CHOICE. AND IF AND ONLY IF THEIR SECOND CHOICE IS THE NEXT CANDIDATE WITH THE LEAST VOTES WOULD THE THIRD CHOICE COME TO PLAY UNTIL SOMEONE CROSSES THE 50% THRESHOLD. I HAD TO VOTE TWICE IN THE LAST ELECTION. ONCE IN THE GENERAL AND ONCE IN THE RUNOFF. I HAD TO VOTE MY SECOND CHOICE IN THE RUNOFF. DOES THAT VIOLATE ONE CHOICE ONE VOTE? ANOTHER ARGUMENT IS IT WILL BE CONFUSING. THERE WILL BE VOIDED BALLOTS. YOU CAN ALREADY DO THAT. IT'S EQUIVALENT TO THE GENERAL AND SKIPPING THE RUNOFF. WHEN YOUR FIRST CHOICE DOESN'T MAKE THE CUT. SOME PEOPLE WILL ONLY CONNECT WITH ONE CANDIDATE. THAT'S OKAY. SANTA FE AND LAS CRUCES ARE ALREADY PROVING NEW MEXICANS CAN UNDERSTAND RANK CHOICE. 75% OF VOTERS RANK TWO OR MORE VOTERS IN THE NOVEMBER ELECTION. 59% RANKED THREE OR MORE. MAJORITY OF BOTH CITIES ARE IN FAVOR OF KEEPING RANK CHOICE. THEY LIKE IT. OUR CITY JUST SPENT $1.6 MILLION ON AN ELECTION THAT COULD HAVE BEEN RESOLVED IN NOVEMBER. RANK CHOICE VOTING IS SENSIBLE, SAVES MONEY, AND WE NEED TO STOP INSULTING PEOPLE BY IMPLYING THEY CAN'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THEIR NEIGHBORS IN SANTA FE AND LAS CRUCES CAN. THANK YOU. >> SHIRLEY FOLLOWED BY PERRY. >> HELLO. I LIVE IN DISTRICT FOUR. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO LET ME SHARE WHY ALBUQUERQUE NEEDS RANK CHOICE VOTING. RUNOFF HAVE WAY LOWER TURNOUT. PEOPLE THINK THEY ALREADY VOTED AND DON'T REALIZE THERE'S A VOTE AGAIN. THAT MEANS END UP WITH A SMALLER GROUP OF VOTERS CHOOSING OUR LEADERS. OUR CURRENT SYSTEM PUTS BURDEN ON CAMPAIGNS. DISTRICT ONE AND THREE CANDIDATES GOT TO KEEP FUND-RAISING FOR SIX WEEKS. OUR ELECTION ADMINISTRATORS HAD TO PREPARE TO RUN AN ELECTION IN THE HOMDY -- HOLIDAY SEASON. THIS ISN'T ABOUT POLITICS RANK CHOICE IS MORE PRACTICAL. IT'S FISCALLY WAY MORE RESPONSIBLE. MUCH SIMPLER FOR VOTERS AND REDUCES ELECTION FATIGUE. WE DON'T HAVE TO LOOK FAR TO SEE HOW IT'S WORKING IN NEW MEXICO. SANTA FE AND LAS CRUCES ALSO USE RANK CHOICE VOTING. LET'S SAVE TAXPAYER MONEY. MAKE ELECTIONS MORE FAIR AND ENSURE EVERY COUNTS THE FIRST TIME. I URGE THE COUNCIL TO ADOPT RANK CHOICE VOTING FOR ALBUQUERQUE. >> PERRY FOLLOWED BY DYLAN. >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT. I'M HERE TO SHARE SOME FACTS ABOUT INSTANT RUNOFF VOTING AND WHY IT WOULD BE AN ASSET TO VOTERS IN ALBUQUERQUE. INSTANT RUNOFF VOTING IS USED BY OVER 17 MILLION AMERICANS IN STATE AND LOCAL ELECTIONS. A GROWING BODY OF RESEARCH SHOWS THAT RANK CHOICE VOTING IS LIKED BY THOSE THAT USE IT AND EASY TO UNDERSTAND. I HEARD CONCERNS ABOUT HOW IMP IMPLEMENTING THE SYSTEM MAY BE CONFUSING. BUT A SURVEY OF VOTERS SHOWS THAT 90% OF VOTERS FOUND IT TO BE AN EXCELLENT OR GOOD EXPERIENCE. IT'S HARD TO GET THAT HIGH OF A RATING IN THIS DAY. RECENT POLLING IN NEW MEXICO SHOWS SIMILAR RESULTS. AND A STRONG BELIEF IN MAJORITY-BACKED ELECTIONS. 86% OF THOSE POLLED IN SANTA FE AND LAS CRUCES SAID IT'S IMPORTANT THAT ELECTED OFFICIALS ARE AT LEAST 50% OF THE VOTE. WHICH INSTANT RUNOFF ELECTIONS ENSURE. WITHOUT THE HASSLE AND COST OF A RUNOFF ELECTION. 77% OF THOSE POLLED ALSO SAID THAT A RANK CHOICE BALLOT WAS SIMPLE TO COMPLETE. I WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT THESE STATISTICS ARE FAIRLY CONSISTENT ACROSS JURISDICTIONS IN THE U.S. IN TERMS OF EASE, AND PREF RENES. IT DOESN'T CHANGE A -- IT'S TIME FOR ALBUQUERQUE TO GET RANK CHOICE VOTING AND JOIN OUR NEIGHBORS. THANK YOU. >> DYLAN FOLLOWED BY JANET. JANET FOLLOWED BY ANAMI. >> GOOD EVENING, MADAM PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. I DID WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT TODAY ON THE CALENDAR IN THE JOURNAL IT MENTIONED THIS IS BILL OF RIGHTS DAY. THIS IS -- IN 1791, THE BILL OF RIGHTS WAS APPROVED. THE LAST STATE THAT HAD TO RATIFY THE TEN AMENDMENTS. THIS IS A REALLY SIGNIFICANT PART OF AMERICAN HISTORY. AGAIN, COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, YOU JOIN A LIST OF CITY COUNCIL ALUMNI FOR THE LAST 45-PLUS YEARS. YES, BEST WISHES TO YOU AND YOUR FAMILY AND YOUR FUTURE. QUICK UPDATE. I LIVE IN DISTRICT NINE. I DID WANT TO GIVE A QUICK LIBRARY UPDATE ON THE H-VAC. SENATOR POPE FROM THE WEST SIDE MADE A COMMITMENT TO HELP SUPPORT WITH CAPITAL OUTLAY AND ALSO REPRESENTATIVE MIGUEL GARCIA WHO STARTS AT CENTRAL AND GOES SOUTH. WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT WHERE WE ARE. LASTLY, I JUST WANT TO SAY WE HAVE MUCH TO BE PLEASED ABOUT IN OUR CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE. FROM THE OPEN SPACE PROGRAM, TRAILS PROGRAM, OUR PARKS, SENIOR CENTERS, AND I'M LOOKING AT 2026 I'M GOING TO BE POSITIVE ABOUT ALL THE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT ARE GOOD ABOUT ALBUQUERQUE AND WHERE WE'RE HEADING IN THE FUTURE. I KNOW THAT WORKING TOGETHER THAT THERE WILL BE A LOT OF ISSUES THAT CAN BE SOLVED. I'M ALSO THANKFUL FOR OUR FIRST RESPONDERS AND THE SOLID WASTE DRIVERS THAT CAME AND GOT MY TRASH THIS MORNING AND RECYCLING. AND FOR ALL OF OUR CITY EMPLOYEES THAT WORK HOLIDAYS SO THE REST OF US CAN BENEFIT. THANK YOU AND MERRY CHRISTMAS AND HAPPY HALL DAYS. -- HOLIDAYS. >> ANAMI FOLLOWED BY JOE. >> JUST WANTED TO EXPRESS MY APPRECIATION FOR THE DEFERRAL ON R-102. THANK YOU. >> JOE FOLLOWED BY LISA. >> GOOD EVENING, MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCIL MEMBERS. I'M A RESIDENT OF DISTRICT SIX. I GREW UP HERE IN ALBUQUERQUE. I WORK FOR A LOCAL NONPROFIT THAT DOES POLICY COMMUNICATIONS AND TRACK CONTENT TO HAVE A REAL CONVERSATION ABOUT POLICY. I JUST WANTED TO MENTION TWO RECENT EXAMPLES AND THEIR IMPACT. THE FIRST HAPPENED LAST WEEK. STEVEN QUEZADA, BERNALILLO COUNTY COMMISSIONER, POSTED ON ELECTION DAY WHILE POLLS WERE OPEN, I HOPE THAT'S NOT ICE ON THE POLLING LOCATION AT 98th. SCARY TO HEAR. ESPECIALLY WHEN WE KNOW ICE IS DETAINING U.S. CITIZENS. I HEARD DIRECTLY FROM VOTERS WHO WERE SHAKEN BY THAT POST. EVEN THOUGH HE PROVIDED NO EVIDENCE AND WHEN I CHECKED AT THAT ALLICATION THEY SAID ICE WAS NOT THERE. THE SECOND EXAMPLE GOES TO THE MAY ORAL ALBUQUERQUE IS THE 20th MOST VIOLENT CITY IN THE WORLD. IT WAS ON A CAMPAIGN HANDOUT ON THE TOWNHALL. THIS CAME FROM AN ONLINE SURVEY. I TOOK THE SURVEY MYSELF. IT DIDN'T ASK IF I WAS FROM ALBUQUERQUE. PRETTY MUCH ANYBODY AROUND THE WORLD COULD TAKE. IF YOU WANT TO LOOK AT THAT SURVEY YOU CAN LOOK IT UP TO SEE FOR YOURSELF. WHAT'S THE IMPACT OF THIS TYPE OF THING? I WON'T GO TOO DEEP INTO IT. I DESCRIBE IT AS POISONING THE INFORMATION SYSTEMS. THIS BREAKS THE CONNECTION BETWEEN NEIGHBORS. IT FILLS US WITH FEAR, ANGER AND DISTRUST WHICH IS NOT GOOD FOR ANY OF US IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOODS. IT IMPACTS MORE THAN POLITICS. IT IMPACTS WHETHER WE'RE GOING TO CHOOSE TO BE NEIGHBORLY AT ALL. AS CITY COUNCILORS I'M SURE YOU UNDERSTAND HOW IMPORTANT THAT SIN YOUR DISTRICT. I CLOSE BY SAYING THAT HOPEFULLY GOING INTO THE NEW YEAR FOLKS WILL LET GO OF THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. I UNDERSTAND THE GOVERNMENT CAN'T REGULATE FREE SPEECH, YOU CAN HOLD EACH OTHER TO A HIGHER STANDARD. I HOPE YOU DO. HAVE A RESTFUL HOLIDAY BREAK. THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> LISA FOLLOWED BY THOMAS. >> THANK YOU. IT IS A SAD HEART AND DISAPPOINTMENT THAT I STAND HERE TODAY. IT IS MY BELIEF THERE WAS INTENT TO INTIMIDATE VOTERS IN DISTRICT THREE. I INQUIRED AS TO HOW TO FILE COMPLAINTS WITH MULTIPLE AGENCIES BECAUSE I, AS A PERSON OF COLOR, AS A PERSON WHO IS THE FIRST AMERICAN ON ONE SIDE OF MY FAMILY VOTING IS FUNDAMENTAL TO THE DEMOCRACY AND TO THE CIVIL RIGHTS THAT WE HAVE IN THIS CITY AND IN THIS COUNTY AND STATE. IF YOU ALL DO NOT DO SOMETHING ABOUT SOMETHING THAT WAS SO INCREDULOUS, IF I CAN HAVE -- I WANT TO PUT THIS POST UP HERE. DISTRICT THREE IS ONE OF THE BROWNEST DISTRICTS IN THIS CITY. 98th -- THIS WAS THE POST. IT SAYS I HOPE THAT'S NOT ICE AT THE POLLING LOCATION ON 98th. MY MOTHER IS A NATURALIZED CITIZEN. SHE WORKS AT THAT POLLING SITE. SHE HAD BEEN FOR THE LAST TWO MONTHS TRYING TO FIND HER PAPERS FROM 35 YEARS AGO OF HER BECOMING A CITIZEN. SHE DID NOT WORK. THIS VOTING ELECTION. THE RUNOFF. BECAUSE SHE WAS SCARED THAT BEING THERE AND SERVING HER COMMUNITY WOULD RESULT IN HER BEING DEPORTED. AND THEN THIS GETS POSTED. VOTING IS ONE OF THE FUNDAMENTAL MECHANISMS WITHIN DEMOCRACY FOR MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY. I'MING HAVING TO PAUSE BECAUSE I'M NOT SURE HOW TO RESPOND TO THAT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT AGENCY NEEDS TO HOLD THAT ACCOUNTABLE. I DO LOOK TO YOU ALL TO MAKE SOME KIND OF A COMMENT THAT THIS IS NOT WHAT WE WANT IN ALBUQUERQUE FOR OUR CITIZENS. PLEASE. >> THOMAS. FOLLOWED BY LEX. LEX FOLLOWED BY BRICK. >> GOOD EVENING, MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCIL MEMBERS. AS WE ENTER INTO THIS HOLIDAY SEASON AND THE CLOSE OF BUSINESS FOR 2025. I'D LIKE TO MAKE IT ALL -- IN CASE YOU WEREN'T AWARE, I'M SURE MOST OF YOU ARE, WE'RE COMING TO OUR 250th ANNIVERSARY AS A COUNTRY. IT DOES PLEASE ME TO SEE THE OUTPOURING OF INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE WILLING TO SERVE WITHIN THEIR GOVERNMENT. I DO WANT TO EXPRESS UPON ALL YOU FOLKS IN ALBUQUERQUE THAT HAVE ACTUALLY SIGNED AN OATH TO UPHOLD THE CONSTITUTION OF THIS GREAT UNITED STATES OF OURS. THAT MEANS THAT IT'S EVERYONE IS TREATED EQUALLY. WITH EQUAL APPLICATION OF THE LAW. I WON'T DIRECT MY COMMENTS TO ANYONE ELSE OTHER THAN COUNCILOR BASSAN. BUT WHAT GOT MYSELF INVOLVED IN THE COMMUNITY WAS SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED TO ME WITH THE POLICE. WHEN I BEGIN TO DIG AND DO WHY IT HAPPENED, AND RATHER THAN JUST FINDING THE NUGGET OUT THERE SO I CAN SAY THIS IS WHAT IT WAS, I FOUND THIS UNWANTED GOLD MINE OF SHIT. I AM GOING TO CONTINUE TO DIG. IF I GO DOWN IN THE SO-CALLED ANNALS OF HISTORY OF CLEANING UP A CITY, IT'S GOING TO BE ON MY NAME, ON MY WATCH, ON MY TIME. I'M JUST WANTING TO PUT YOU ON NOTICE. IT SHOULD BE NO MORE DESTROYING THE PUBLIC RECORDS BETWEEN THE PUBLIC OFFICIALS LIKE THE MAYOR, CHIEF OF POLICE, OR FOR ANY PUBLIC RECORD FOR THAT MATTER. HAVE A GOOD HOLIDAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. >> BREAK FOLLOWED BY SANTIAGO. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILORS, THANK YOU FOR SERVING THIS YEAR. YEAH, MOST OF ALL I WANT TO THANK MR. LEX FOR HIS SERVICE. MASSIVE APPRECIATION FOR THAT MAN. HE SERVED HIS COUNTRY AND CONTINUES TO SERVE. HE INSPIRES ME TO SERVE IN WHAT BEST CAPACITY THAT I CAN SERVE. MY ROLE AS PRESS AND CONTINUED ROLE AS FIRST AMENDMENT AUDITOR, IT'S A PRIDEFUL ONE. I REALLY APPRECIATE EVERYTHING HE'S DONE FOR ME. AND WHAT HE CONTINUES TO DO FOR ME. PRESS BEING A FUNDAMENTAL RIGHT. A FUNDAMENTAL PORTION OF THE FIRST AMENDMENT. IT'S A NECESSITY. IT'S A 100% NECESSITY THAT ANY TYPE OF CORRUPTION BE FOUND BY INDIVIDUALS IN THIS CAPACITY. WHEN WE BRING YOU A STORY, WE DO EXPECT, 100% EXPECT, BECAUSE YOU SIGNED AN OATH TO HONOR THAT OATH AND DIG AND ROOT IT OUT AS WELL. I DO APPRECIATE THAT IT IS THE HOLIDAYS. I WANT YOU TO HAVE THE BEST OF HOLIDAYS. WE ALSO WANT TO HAVE THE BEST OF HOLIDAYS. I DO FIND IT INTERESTING THAT OFFICER ROMKOWSKI GETS AN AWARD A YEAR AFTER VIOLATING OUR RIGHTS. JUST PRIOR TO THIS AWARD, IN THE SAME FASHION, OFFICER SEDILLO TRAINING SOMEONE TO VIOLATE OUR RIGHTS IN OUR OFFICIAL CAPACITY AS PRESS. PLEASE CONTINUE IN WHAT IS KNOWN AS GOOD DEFENSE OF OUR RIGHT. >> SANTIAGO FOLLOWED BY JOEL. JOEL FOLLOWED BY PATRICK. >> GOOD EVENING, MY NAME IS JOEL. I AM A BUSINESS OWNER DOWNTOWN. AND A MONTH AGO I GOT SHOT WHILE I WAS AT WORK. NO POLICE OFFICER WHILE I WAS IN THE HOSPITAL, NO POLICE OFFICER CAME TO MY PLACE OF BUSINESS. NO POLICE OFFICER CAME TO MY HOME. A MONTH AFTER I HAVE BEEN SHOT, IT TOOK ME TO GET ON SOCIAL MEDIA. IT TOOK ME TO CONTINUE TO TALK TO DIFFERENT PEOPLE TO EVEN HAVE AN OFFICER COME AND TALK TO ME ABOUT THE SITUATION. I'M ONLY HERE TODAY BECAUSE I DO NOT WANT THIS TO HAPPEN TO ANOTHER PERSON. I'M ACTUALLY STRONGER, SO I'M OKAY WITH BEING SHOT DOWNTOWN IN ALBUQUERQUE. BUT IF OTHER BUSINESSES AND OTHER BUSINESS OWNERS THAT'S GOING THROUGH THE SAME THINGS AND NOT HAVING ANYONE TO HELP THEM. AND ON THIS, A LOT OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE ALSO GOING AROUND. WHERE POLICE OFFICERS AREN'T DOING THEIR FOLLOW UPS LIKE THEY SHOULD BE. ESPECIALLY IN THE BLACK AND BROWN COMMUNITY. I'M NOT HERE TO TRY TO SAY ANYTHING BAD ABOUT THE APD. I'M JUST LOOKING FOR ACCOUNTABILITY. AND KNOWING THAT I CAME TO ADDRESS YOU ALL. SOMETHING ACTUALLY WILL BE CHANGED. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: THANK YOU FOR THE LEEWAY ON THIS. MADAM CAO CAN I GET THE CASE FOR THAT? >>COUN. BASSAN: MADAM CAO. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE, I ONLY SMILED PAUSE I WAS TRYING TO GET THE EXACT CODES YOU'RE SAYING. WE'LL FOLLOW UP ON IT AND FOLLOW THROUGH. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: THE CAD ON THE CASE IS THE CALL ITSELF. 42 IS THE TIMELINE OF WHEN THE CALL CAME IN. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE, I UNDERSTAND. I WAS TRYING TO CATCH IT. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: THANK YOU. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR GROUT. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. MR. BROWN, I'M SORRY YOU GOT SHOT. IT'S NOT OKAY. I'M SORRY THAT FOLLOW UP DIDN'T HAPPEN AS TIMELY AS IT SHOULD HAVE. THERE'S NO EXCUSE. I THINK THAT WE'VE GOT SOME EYES ON IT NOW. AND WE'LL SEE WHAT WE CAN DO SO WE CAN DO BETTER FOR OTHER PEOPLE. THANK YOU FOR COMING TO SPEAK. I'M SORRY YOU GOT SHOT. IT'S NOT OKAY. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR BACA. >>COUN. BACA: THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. IF YOU CAN TALK TO ME ON THE EMAIL, DR. SENGEL. I'M SORRY, MR. BROWN, THAT ALL THIS HAPPENED. WE JUST SPENT THE LAST SIX MONTHS LISTENING TO HOW THINGS ARE BETTER IN ALBUQUERQUE. YET ONE OF OUR MOST VISIBLE AND PROMINENT NEIGHBORHOODS THAT EVERYONE IS PARANOID ABOUT, WE DON'T GET A FOLLOW UP. THAT JUST SEEMS RIDICULOUS. ANY SHOOTING SHOULD HAVE A FOLLOW UP. THE FACT HE HAD TO COME TO CITY COUNCIL TO SPEAK IS OUTRAGEOUS. >>COUN. BASSAN: PLEASE FORWARD IT TO EVERYBODY. THAT'S THE STANDARD ASK ON MY END. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I JUST WANTED TO ADD I KNOW JB WAS BEING NICE. I JUST HAVE TO ADD THAT. THERE'S SERIOUS ISSUES WITH EVIDENCE COLLECTION IN THIS CASE. WHERE HE HAD A WEAPON THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN PROCESSED. THAT HAS BEEN PICKED UP. BUT THE OTHER THING IS THIS GROUP BARBERSHOP HOSTS MENTORSHIP PROGRAMS THAT I SUPPORT WITH FUNDING. THAT THE CITY SUPPORTS WITH FUNDING. LUCKILY THOSE YOUTH WEREN'T THERE THAT DAY. THIS IS OPENED ANOTHER CONVERSATION THAT THESE MEN ARE HAVING TO HAVE WITH THESE YOUTH WHO NOTICED WHEN SOMETHING HAPPENED TO THE GENTLEMAN WHERE THEY COME INTO THIS BUSINESS TO GET MENTORED. THIS IS AN OUTSTANDING GROUP OF MEN DOING THEIR PART TO POUR BACK INTO THE YOUTH AND HAVE THIS HAPPEN. I'M SORRY. I KNOW YOU AND I HAVE BEEN IN CONTACT. I ASSUMED AND EXPECTED THAT APD WAS FOLLOWING UP. THANK YOU FOR COMING. AND VOICING THAT HERE. WE'LL DEFINITELY MAKE SURE THAT YOU GET WHAT YOU NEED. THANK YOU FOR STANDING UP FOR ALL OF THE FOLKS THAT YOU DO STAND UP WITH THE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE PART TOO. YOU'RE RIGHT, WE CAN DO BETTER THERE TOO. >> THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. PATRICK FOLLOWED BY MARSEYLN. >> PATRICK IS NOT HERE. I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE HIS TIME IN REGARD TO THE SITUATION THAT HAPPENED IF THAT'S OKAY. >>COUN. BASSAN: PLEASE PROCEED. >> JUST TO ADD CONTEXT TO WHAT HAPPENED WITH JD. THERE'S LITERALLY A GUN SHOT DETECTOR WITHIN 50 FEET OF WHERE HIS BUSINESS IS. HE GOT SHOT IN HIS BARBERSHOP A BLOCK AND A HALF TO A NEIGHBORING BUSINESS. GOT THEM TO BANDAGE HIM UP, CALL THE AMBULANCE. THE AMBULANCE PICKED HIM UP. THE PERSON WHO SHOT HIM IS LAYING IN HIS BUSINESS. THE GUN IS NOT NECESSARILY WITH THAT PERSON. LONG STORY SHORT, HOW IS IT THAT NO APD OFFICER MADE IT DOWN TO THE LOCATION? NOT ONLY IS THE PERSON STILL ON ALBUQUERQUE'S STREETS WHICH PUTS EVERYBODY IN HARM'S WAY, BUT WE HOST A MEN'S GROUP THAT TALKS TO KIDS TO PREVENT VIOLENCE. THE FACT THAT HAPPENED THERE, THESE SAME KIDS ARE LOOKING AT US A LITTLE DIFFERENT. JD COULD HAVE BEEN NOT AS STRONG AS HE WAS. HE COULD NOT BE HERE WITH US. GOD WILLING, HE IS, AND BECAUSE HE IS HE'S TAKING IT EASY ON IT. WE'RE DONE TAKING IT EASY. OUR KIDS DESERVE BETTER. EVERYBODY DESERVES BETTER. THE NUMBERS THAT ALBUQUERQUE IS SAFER IS A LIE. THAT'S PROOF. THANK YOU. >> MARSELYN FOLLOWED BY TAD. >> I JUST WOULD LOVE TO SHARE WITH YOU MY EXPERIENCE THIS WEEK. EARLIER THIS WEEK A MEMBER OF THE ADMINISTRATION CAME TO A FOOD DISTRIBUTION PROGRAM I HELP SERVE. AND ASKED US ABOUT COVERING FOR FOOD FOR THE ROCK AT NOON WHILE THEY'RE CLOSED BECAUSE TUESDAY THROUGH FRIDAY THEY SERVE 80 TO 100 PEOPLE. SO, OUT OF OUR OWN POCKETS AND WORK, WE CAME TOGETHER AS A COMMUNITY WITH DIFFERENT GROUPS AND WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO FEED FOLKS WHILE THE ROCK AT NOON IS CLOSED. WE'RE TOLD TO GO TO THE FIRST BRIDGE. WE WENT TO THE ROCK AT NOON WHERE PEOPLE WERE, STATE POLICE BLOCKED BOTH ENDS OF THE ROAD AND SWEPT FOLKS OUT. THE NEXT DAY, WE SET UP ON AN EMPTY LOT. I WAS THREATENED AND HAD A PROPERTY OWNER IN MY FACE. AS I APOLOGIZED, COPS CAME LATER AND SWEPT FOLKS BEFORE WE SERVED LUNCH. THE NEXT DAY, COPS SWEPT US IN THE MIDDLE OF SERVING LUNCH. I STILL PLAN TO BE THERE ALL THIS NEXT WEEK. AND THE WEEK AFTER THAT. WE WILL CONTINUE TO BE FEEDING PEOPLE. IT DOES NOT MATTER. IT FEELS LIKE A WASTE OF RESOURCES. WE JUST HEARD ABOUT HOW APD CAN'T SHOW UP TO GUN SHOT VICTIMS AND CRIME, BUT THEY CAN SHOW UP AND SEND SIX CARS TO MOVE A BUNCH OF PEOPLE OUT WHO ARE IN WHEELCHAIRS. IT'S COLD. IT'S WINTER. WHAT ARE WE DOING HERE? I ALSO WANT TO MENTION THAT HOUSING FOLKS IN GENERAL MAKES THIS CITY SAFER. PEOPLE WOULDN'T BE AS DESPERATE. PEOPLE WOULDN'T BE ROBBING EACH OTHER AND TRYING TO DO THINGS JUST TO GET THERE. FOOD AND HOUSING IS A REALLY EASY TWIE -- TO GET OVER EDICTION AND BROADER ISSUES. IT'S CRAZY THAT WE LIVE LIKE THIS AND ALLOW PEOPLE TO FREEZE AND DIE ON OUR STREETS. PLEASE DO BETTER. PLEASE. >> TAD FOLLOWED BY AUGUSTINE. >> JUST A SECOND. >> THANK YOU. WELL, IN THE CITY, AT LEAST HALF-MILLION NOW. WINNING ELECTION BY NINE CITY COUNCIL AND ONE DISTRICT. WE NEED -- WINNING BY 69 VOTES. THAT'S NOT VERY SMART. THAT'S NOT VERY SMART. PERSONALLY SHAME OF IT. WHO FIX IT? KNOWING KLARISSA PENA, CAREER POLITICIAN. NOW, I COMMEND STATE OF NEW MEXICO, FEDERAL GOVERNMENT JUSTICE DEPARTMENT, LOOK AT THIS ISSUE. NOW LIES. WHAT IS LIE? TO ME, THAT'S PROCESS OF LEARNING FROM CHILD, TODDLER ALL THE WAY TO HUNDRED YEARS OLD. LEARNING IS DOING RIGHT THINGS. RIGHT WAY. DOING SO FOR OTHER IN THE COMMUNITIES. SPEAKING UP WHAT IS RIGHT. NOW, WHAT'S HAPPENED TO ME? LAST CITY COUNCIL MEETING, WHEN COUNCILOR BASSAN SPONSOR AND WHOLE COUNCIL BOUGHT IT. -- THANK YOU. >> AUGUSTINE FOLLOWED BY STEVEN. >> GOOD EVENING, EVERYBODY. I AM THE PRESIDENT FOR THE UNION REPRESENTS CITY EMPLOYEES. I'M HERE AS A REMINDER TO REMIND YOU WE HAVE CONVERSATIONS SIX MONTHS AGO ABILITY GETTING HALF-PERCENT RAISE. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU GOES DON'T FORGET ABOUT US AGAIN. THANK YOU. >> STEVEN FOLLOWED BY JAMES. >> CAN I GET OVERHEAD? MADAM CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. ON NOVEMBER 5th I WENT TO THE STATE LEGISLATURE IN SANTA FE FOR A PRESENTATION TO THE INVESTMENTS AND PENSIONS OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE. AND IT WAS GIVEN BY ROXANNE. AND WHAT THEY WERE ADDRESSING IS NEW MEXICO'S PUBLIC PENSION CRISIS AND A CASE FOR RESTORING THE COST OF LIVING ALLOWANCES. MUNICIPAL EMPLOYEES PAY INTO PARA AS WELL AS CITY. I AM A PARA PENSIONER AT THIS POINT. I CAN TELL YOU HOW DIFFICULT IT IS GETTING TO BE WITH REGARDS TO WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH REGARD TO OUR PENSIONS. JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA WITH CURRENT COLA, THE VALUE OF PUBLIC RETIREEE PENSION SHRANK TO HALF OF ITS 2019 VALUE IN 25 YEARS. WHAT THIS MEANS IS LESS MONEY COMING INTO THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE BEING SPENT BY THE RETIREES AND JEOPARDIING THEIR ABILITY TO STAY IN THEIR HOMES AND TAKE CARE OF THEIR OWN ELDERLY, HUSBAND OR WIFE, THAT'S AN ISSUE THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED. THIS HAPPENED BECAUSE OF SENATE BILL 72, WHICH WAS PASSED DURING COVID AND SIGNED OFF BY THE GOVERNOR. WHAT THAT IN ESSENCE DID IS REDUCED REGULAR MEMBERS ACTUAL COLA, DOWN TO A HALF-PERCENT FOR THE YEARS 2023-2024, AND 2025. WE'VE LOST INCOME. PEOPLE WERE COUNTING AND PROMISED TO THE EMPLOYEES BY STATUTE. MAY I HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE? >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU. YOU CAN SEND THAT VIA EMAIL TO THE COUNCILORS. >> WILL DO. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU, SIR. >> JAMES FOLLOWED BY SIMON. >> THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING. I'M FROM DISTRICT FOUR. FIRST I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT AN EVENT THAT'S COMING UP ON WEDNESDAY. THIS IS THE MEMORIAL VIGIL WHERE WE START AT 1:00 P.M. AT ALBUQUERQUE HEALTH CARE FOR THE HOMELESS AND MARCH TO CIVIC PLAZA. SO MANY PEOPLE STEPPED UP TO MAKE THIS A GREAT EVENT. COUNCILOR BACA DONATED 100 BURRITOS. THE CITY IS DONATING 50 BURRITOS. WE GOT MOST OF THE FEES WAIVED FOR USING CIVIC PLAZA AND USING THE SOUND SYSTEM. I CAN'T BELIEVE HOW COMPLICATE ASKED EXPENSIVE IT IS TO GET THESE THINGS DONE. IT TOOK MONTHS. IT GOT DONE TODAY. I REALLY WANTED TO THANK CITY FOR ALLOWING US TO DO THAT. LAST YEAR, TWO YOUF -- OF YOU CAME. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF THREE COULD COME UP. THAT WOULD BE GREAT. I LOVE TO GET IN TROUBLE FOR MAKING A QUORUM. I'LL TAKE THE BLAME FOR THAT. WE'RE AT CHRISTMAS TIME. I REALLY WANT TO THANK THE STAFF. DR. SENGEL, MR. WHELAN. ALWAYS TAKING THE TIME TO TALK TO ME. I MET WITH EIGHT OF NINE OF YOU. I REALLY WANT TO THANK YOU. YOU HAVE THE MOST INCREDIBLE POLICY ANALYST IN THE WORLD OVER HERE. I REALLY WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU. I FEEL FUNDAMENTALLY MANY SYSTEMS IN THE CITY ARE BROKEN. WE HAVE THE BEST PEOPLE WORKING ON THEM. I THINK THAT'S A SILVER LINING. EVERYTHING SHOULDN'T TAKE MONTHS TO GET APPROVED FOR SOMETHING SO SIMPLE. WE HAVE THE BEST PEOPLE. THANK YOU. >> SIMON FOLLOWED BY MOLLLY. >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCIL. I HAVE COME HERE FOR A VERY SELFISH REASON. I ASK YOU TO VOTE UNANIMOUSLY ON A RESOLUTION DEMANDING INVESTIGATION WITH A MEETING BETWEEN THE U.S. AMBASSADOR AND ISRAEL AND CONVICTED TRAITOR TO THE UNITED STATES JONATHAN POLLARD. I'M DOING THIS PUBLICLY BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO BE ACCUSED OF BEING -- I'M ASKING YOU AS MY REPRESENTATIVES OF THE CITY I LIVED IN FOR OVER 50 YEARS TO ASK OUR CONGRESSIONAL REPRESENTATIVE AND SENATE TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING INTO THIS MATTER. MR. POLLARD WAS CONVICTED OF BETRAYING YOUR NATION. EVERY COUNCIL MEETING, YOU ALL TAKE A PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG. HE VIOLATED THAT. HE WAS A GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEE. EMPLOYED BY NAVAL INTELLIGENCE. HE SOLD INCREDIBLE AMOUNT OF VERY SENSITIVE INFORMATION ABOUT THE UNITED STATES DEFENSE. THERE HASN'T BEEN A PUBLIC OUTRAGE. IT BEFUDDLES ME. IT SCARES ME. I'M HERE FOR THAT SELFISH REASON BECAUSE AS AN ORDINARY CITIZEN I CANNOT DEMAND AN INTERROGATION OF OUR AMBASSADOR AND WHAT WAS SAID DURING THIS CONVERSATION BETWEEN A REPRESENTATIVE OF US THE PEOPLE AND A TRAITOR WHO BETRAYED US THE PEOPLE. I'M ASKING AGAIN FOR YOU TO UNANIMOUSLY PASS A RESOLUTION DEMANDING AN INVESTIGATION INTO THIS. THANK YOU. >> MOLLY FOLLOWED BY JACOB. >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TONIGHT. I APOLOGIZE. I COULDN'T MAKE IT DOWNTOWN IN TIME TO BE THERE IN PERSON. MY NAME IS MOLLY, I'M EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR FOR COMMON CAUSE NEW MEXICO. I'M SURE IT'S NO SURPRISE THAT I'M HERE TO SPEAK ABOUT RANK CHOICE VOTING. ALSO KNOWN AS INSTANT RUNOFF FOR THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE. OUR CITY HAD RUNOFF ELECTIONS LAST WEEK. A THIRD OF REGISTERED VOTERS TURNED OUT TO VOTE FOR THE HIGHEST RANKING POSITION. THE CITY HASN'T RELEASED THE NUMBERS OF HOW MUCH THEY SPENT ON THE ELECTION, BUT IT WAS UP TO A MILLION DOLLARDS FOR STAFFING, PRINTING, ET CETERA. COMMON CAUSE IS HERE TO ASK YOU TO SUPPORT RANK CHOICE VOTING, AKA INSTANT RUNOFF TO SAVE TAXPAYER DOLLARS AND DECREASE VOTER FATIGUE. RUNOFF MEANS 30 MORE DAYS OF CAMPAIGN ADS, MAILERS, PHONE CALLS, ALL OF THAT. RANK CHOICE VOTING WILL DECREASE THE -- CONSIDER ALL CANDIDATES. IT'S A SIMPLE PROCESS FOR VOTERS AND FOR OUR ELECTION ADMINISTRATORS. WE HOPE YOU'LL SUPPORT A MEASURE TO ENACT RANK CHOICE VOTING IN 2026 AND ALLOW CITY TO FACILITATE IN THOSE MOVING FORWARD. THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> JACOB FOLLOWED BY MIRA. >> I'M SORRY. GOOD AFTERNOON, ALBUQUERQUE CITY COUNCIL. THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. I AM PROUD TO SERVE AS CHAIR OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY OF BERNALILLO COUNTY. I'M JOINING VIRTUALLY TONIGHT BECAUSE LOCAL GOVERNMENT -- IN PEOPLE'S LIVES. AT A TIME WIN TRUST IN INSTITUTIONS IN OUR NATIONAL GOVERNMENT IS AT AN ALL TIME LOW, CITIES LIKE ALBUQUERQUE HAVE A REAL OPPORTUNITY TO STRENGTHEN PARTICIPATION AND CONFIDENCE IN OUR ELECTIONS. ONE WAY TO DO THAT IS BY ADAPTING RANK CHOICE VOTING. ACROSS THE COUNTY -- ACROSS THE COUNTRY, I'M SORRY, CITIES IMPLEMENTED RANK CHOICE VOTING AND SEEING HIGHER VOTER ENGAGEMENT, MORE POSITIVE CAMPAIGNS, AND ELECTION OUTCOMES THAT REFLECT THE WILL OF THE MAJORITY. ALBUQUERQUE ALREADY EXPERIENCED LOW VOTER TURNOUT AND COSTLY RUNOFF LIKE THE DECEMBER 9th RACE THAT LEAVES MANY VOTERS FEELING DISENGAGED. RANK CHOICE VOTING ALLOWS VOTERS TO EXPRESS THEIR PREFERENCES IN A SINGLE ELECTION REDUCES THE NEED FOR RUNOFF AND ENSURES BEEN WITHINERS HAVE BROADER SUPPORT FROM THE COMMUNITY. AS CHAIR OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY OF BERNALILLO COUNTY, I BELIEVE OUR DEMOCRACY WORKS BEST WHEN MORE PEOPLE PARTICIPATE AND WHEN OUR SYSTEMS REWARD COALITION BUILDING INSTEAD OF DIVISION. RANK CHOICE VOTING ENCOURAGES EXACTLY THAT. I URGE COUNCIL TO SERIOUSLY CONSIDER ADOPTION OF RANK CHOICE VOTING FOR ALBUQUERQUE MUNICIPAL ELECTION. IT'S PRACTTLE REFORM THAT STRENGTHENS DE DEMOCRACY. THANKS FOR SERVING AND THE WORK YOU DO. I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. >> NIRA. >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCILORS. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. I AM A RESIDENT OF DISTRICT SIX. I'M ALSO A PRACTICING PHARMACIST IN THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE. I UNDERSTAND THE DECISION HAS BEEN DEFERRED. HOWEVER I SPEAK IN STRONG SUPPORT OF THE RENTAL ORDINANCE. WHILE SENATE BILL 267 ESTABLISHES IMPORTANT TENANT PROTECTIONS AT THE STATE LEVEL CODIFYING THE PROVISION IN THE CITY CODE IS WHAT MAKES THEM REAL AND ENFORCEABLE ON THE GROUND. TRANSPARENT FEES AND LIMITS ON PUNITIVE PRACTICES. THESE ARE NOT ABSTRACT ISSUES. THEY DIRECTLY AFFECT HOUSING STABILITY AND DISPLACEMENT RISK. I WORK WITH MANY OF OUR UNHOUSED CITIZENS. AS ALL OF US KNOW, THERE ARE WAY TOO MANY UNHOUSED IN THE CITY. THIS IS A HUGE PROBLEM THAT WE NEED TO TAKE SERIOUSLY. PREDATORY RENTING OR LANDLORD PROTECTION DO NOT SERVE OUR CITIZENS. I STRONGLY URGE THE COUNCIL NOT TO DEFER THE DECISION AGAIN. AND NOT ONLY TO ADOPT THE ORDINANCE BUT ENSURE IT IS IMPLEMENTED AND ENFORCED IN A WAY THAT PROTECTS RENTERS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, I'M UNABLE TO LOCATE JORDAN IN ZOOM. I SAY THAT JUST IN CASE THEY'RE HERE. THAT DOES CONCLUDE GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO DO ONE MORE ITEM AND THEN MOVE FOR OUR BREAK. UNDER APPROVALS, OC-57 IS THE APPOINTMENT OF MEMBER TO THE OPEN SPACE ADVISORY BOARD IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE PROVISION, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN SUPPORTED THE FOLLOWING TWO NAMES AS POTENTIAL APPOINTEES TO THE BOARD. CARL KAISER AND THERESA DORIA RILEY. I DON'T SEE ANYONE IS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS. THE TWO CANDIDATES I PRESENT IF COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM EACH OF THEM. COUNCILORS, WOULD YOU LIKE TO HEAR FROM ANYBODY? OKAY. THE COUNCIL RULES PROVIDE A PROCEDURE FOR APPOINTMENT MADE BY THE COUNCIL AND WE'RE FOLLOWING THAT PROCEDURE TONIGHT. BALLOTS ARE BEING DISTRIBUTED BY STAFF THAT LIST THE TWO CANDIDATES. COUNCILORS ARE TO INDICATE THE ORDER OF PREFERENCE WITH ONE FOR FIRST PREFERENCE AND TWO FOR SECOND PREFERENCE. IRONY IS NOT LOST ON ME. AFTER COUNCILORS COMPLETE BALLOT, STAFF WILL COLLECT THE PALLET AND TALLY THE RESULTS. COUNCILORS , PLEASE MARK YOUR ONE AND TWO AND GIVE IT BACK TO STAFF. FIRST, I MOVE TO TABLE THIS ITEM. THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND BY COUNCILOR CHAMPINE AND COUNCILOR GROUT. WE'RE GOING TO ALLOW FOR STAFF TO BE ABLE TO DO THE TALLIES AND FIGURE THAT OUT WHILE WE GO TO DINNER. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF TABLING, RAISE YOUR HAND AND SAY YES. ANY OPPOSED? ITEM IS TABLED. WE'LL BE BACK HERE AT 7:30. >>COUN. BASSAN: ALL RIGHT, EVERYONE. WE'RE BACK FROM THE BREAK. AND I WOULD LIKE TO REMOVE OC-57 FROM THE TABLE, APPOINTMENT OF MEMBERS TO THE OPEN SPACE ADVISORY BOARD. THERE'S A MOTION AND SEVERAL SECONDS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR RAISE YOUR HAND AND SAY YES. ANYONE OPPOSED? THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. WITH THAT, AND THE TALLY FROM STAFF AND OUR VOTE, THE NEW MEMBER OF THE OPEN SPACE ADVISORY BOARD IS CARL KAISER. I MOVE CONFIRMATION. MOTION, AND A SECOND BY COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. ALL THOSE IN FABER RAISE YOUR HAND AND THAT PASSES ON A 7-0 VOTE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR WILLINGNESS TO SERVE. WARE GOING TO BOUNCE AROUND AND GO BACK TO EC-548. CONTRACT WITH IDEMIA TO PROVIDE AFIS AUTOMATED FINGERPRINT IDENTIFICATION SYSTEM. I MOVE APPROVAL. ANY QUESTIONS, COUNCILORS? OR COMMENTS ? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVING EC-548 RAISE YOUR HAND AND SAY YES. ANYONE OPPOSED? IT LOOKS LIKE THAT PASSED ON A 7-0 VOTE. WE'RE NOW TO FINAL ACTIONS. COUNCILOR PEÑA, O-67. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. O-67 COMMITTEE SUB AMENDING CHAPTER TWO ARTICLE 11 OF THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE CODE OF ORDINANCES TO IMPROVE PROPOSAL PROCESSES AND STRENGTHEN AND OVERSIGHT ACCOUNTABILITY MEASURES. I MOVE DO PASS. >>COUN. BASSAN: MOTION, AND A SECOND BY COUNCILOR CHAMPINE. OKAY. LET'S GO TO AMENDMENTS FIRST. WE HAVE QUITE A PACKET. AND WE'LL GO TO THE PUBLICER. LET'S START WITH AMENDMENT A, WHICH IS COUNCILOR ROGERS, COUNCILOR LEWIS, COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. IT IS NOW NUMBER ONE. A, NUMBER ONE FOR THE AMENDMENT. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I MOVE FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE. ON PAGE 13, BEGINNING ON LINE 14, BUDGET CONTENT AND FORMAT BY REPLACING PARAGRAPH B AS FOLLOWS. PRETTY LONG AMENDMENT. BUT THE PURPOSE OF OUR AMENDMENT, AND WE TALKED ABOUT THIS LAST TIME. WE REWORKED IT BASED ON OUR DISCUSSIONS. IT REQUIRES CLEARER REPORT FOR UNCLASSIFIED EMPLOYEES WHO REPORTS DIRECTLY TO THE MAYOR OR CAO. IT DEFINES WHAT CONSTITUTES DIRECT REPORTING FOR BUDGET PURPOSES. SPECIFIES THE SALARIES MUST BE SHOWN WITHIN THE MAYOR'S OFFICE OR CAO BUDGET SECTION AND REQUIRES ORGANIZATIONAL CHARTS IN THE ANNUAL BUDGET SUBMISSION TO REFLECT BOTH STANDARD AND DEPARTMENTAL STRUCTURES. AND ANY DIRECT REPORTING RELATIONSHIPS. THIS AMENDMENT ALSO REQUIRES UPDATED CHARTS WHEN CHANGES OCCUR THAT AFFECT HOW THE POSITIONS ARE PRESENTED IN THE BUDGET. I MOVE -- URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. BASSAN: IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND BY COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? ANYTHING FROM THE ADMINISTRATION? I'LL TRY TO DO LIKE WE DID LAST TIME. >> THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. THIS IS -- I APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT WENT INTO CLARIFYING THIS IN THE WAY THAT BASED UPON OUR DISCUSSION IN THE LAST MEETING AND UNDERSTAND THAT TRANSPARENCY IT PROVIDES AND UNDERSTANDING WHERE FOLKS ARE ALLOCATED WITHIN THE BUDGET AND WHERE THEY SIT WITHIN OUR ADMINISTRATION. >>COUN. BASSAN: ALL RIGHT. ANYTHING FURTHER, COUNCILORS? SEEING NONE. MOTION IS FOR AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE TO COMMITTEE SUB-O-67. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR RAISE YOUR HAND. THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. MOVING TO NUMBER TWO, WHICH IS B IN YOUR PACKET. COUNCILOR CHAMPINE. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: HOLD ON. THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO, BEGINNING ON PAGE 19, LINE 29 AMEND SECTION 2-11-13 BUDGET AMENDMENTS DURING FISCAL YEAR OUTSIDE ADOPTION OF ANNUAL BUDGET. THIS BASICALLY REVISES THE MID-YEAR BUDGET ADJUSTMENT PROCESS BY REQUIRING THE ADMINISTRATION TO BRIEF COUNCIL SERVICES BEFORE TRANSMITTING MID-YEAR BUDGET REQUESTS TO THE CITY COUNCIL. THE BRIEFING AND ACOMPANYING MATERIALS MUST BE REQUIRED. MOVE FOR DO PASS. >>COUN. BASSAN: MOTION AND A SECOND BY COUNCILOR GROUT. ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THIS? SEEING NONE. HOW ABOUT THE ADMINISTRATION? >> THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I UNDERSTAND THIS ADDS THE PROVIDING THE ADVICE AND INFORMATION TO COUNCIL SERVICES. THAT IS WITHIN THE DOCUMENTS. THAT SENSE TO ME THAT WE DISCUSS THAT. >>COUN. BASSAN: ANYTHING FURTHER COUNCILORS? SEEING NONE. I GUESS I FORGOT -- I APOLOGIZE TO THE PREVIOUS COUNCILORS. I DIDN'T GO BACK FOR A CLOSE. COUNCILOR CHAMPINE TO CLOSE. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. BASSAN: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR TO AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO RAISE YOUR HAND AND SAY YES. ANYONE OPPOSED? THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. MOVING TO C IN YOUR PACKET, NUMBER THREE. COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: MADAM PRESIDENT. I'LL MOVE FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER THREE. ON PAGE FIVE, LINE FIVE AMEND AS FOLLOWS. SHALL REVIEW FIVE GOALS AND ONE-YEAR OBJECTIVES FOR THE CITY AND ADD THE CITY COUNCIL SHALL AMEND AS NECESSARY. >>COUN. BASSAN: MOTION, AND A SECOND BY COUNCILOR ROGERS. COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THE MAYOR DID NOT HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO AMEND THE OBJECTIVES OR GOALS WITHOUT COUNCIL APPROVAL. >>COUN. BASSAN: ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? THE ADMINISTRATION? NONE? COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN TO CLOSE. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN:URG -- URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. BASSAN: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR RAISE YOUR HAND AND SAY YES. ANYONE OPPOSED? THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. AMENDMENT NUMBER FOUR, D IN YOUR PACKETS, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I'LL MOVE FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER FOUR, ON PAGE FIVE LINE 21, AMEND THE TASKS MAY BE DELEGATED TO THE MAYOR OR DESIGNEE. >>COUN. BASSAN: MOTION, IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND BY COUNCILOR CHAMPINE. COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT WE'RE NOT DOING ANY SEPARATION OF POWERS PROBLEM. WE'RE DESIGNATING TO THE MAYOR AND HE CAN MAKE THE DESIGNEE AS HE WISHES. >>COUN. BASSAN: ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? ADMINISTRATION? NONE? COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN TO CLOSE. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. BASSAN: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR RAISE YOUR HAND AND SAY YES. ANYONE OPPOSED? THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. WE ARE ON TO AMENDMENT NUMBER FIVE LABELED E IN YOUR PACKET. COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I'LL MOVE FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER FIVE, ON PAGE NINE LINE 31 AMEND, HOLD AT LEAST PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE FOLLOWING. THAT'S TO MAKE IT THE SAME AS REF REES -- REFERENCE TO THE COW MEETING LATER. >>COUN. BASSAN: MOTION AND A SECOND. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: ON PAGE 14 WE'RE JUST SAYING WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THREE -- I REALLY APPRECIATE ALL THREE OF THOSE. I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE AT LEAST THREE BUDGET HEARINGS. THAT'S MAKING IT CONSISTENT THROUGHOUT THE BILL. URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. BASSAN: ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? ANYTHING FROM THE ADMINISTRATION? ALL RIGHT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF AMENDMENT NUMBER FIVE, COMMITTEE SUBSTITUTE SEVEN, RAISE YOUR HAND AND SAY YES. ANYONE OPPOSED? THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. AMENDMENT F, NUMBER SIX. COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER SIX IS ON PAGE 10, LINE 19 THROUGH 31, AMEND TO SAY THAT WE WILL HAVE AT LEAST ONE STUDY SESSION AND IT WILL BE INFORMAL IN NATURE. I'LL MOVE THAT AMENDMENT. >>COUN. BASSAN: MOTION, AND A SECOND BY COUNCILOR GROUT. COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: MADAM PRESIDENT, JUST WANTING TO CLARIFY REALLY LIKE THE IDEA OF STUDY SESSIONS. I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE AT LEAST ONE. OUR DISCUSSION LAST MEETING WAS TRYING TO MAKE SURE THESE WERE INFORMAL DISCUSSIONS WITH THE DEPARTMENT DIRECTORS SO WE CAN ASK ALL THE QUESTIONS WE NEED TO ASK AND GET SOME INFORMAL TIME WITHOUT MAKING THEM DO A LOT OF EXTRA WORK DURING A BUSY TIME. JUST TRYING TO MAKE THIS DEFINITELY HAPPEN AND HAPPEN IN THE LEAST PAINFUL WAY POSSIBLE IF THE DEPARTMENT DIRECTORS. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILORS, ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? ANYTHING FROM THE ADMIN? >> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. I THINK IN DISCUSSION WITH THE COUNCILOR AND OTHERS, I THINK THE STUDY SESSIONS ARE GOING TO BE USEFUL FOR US TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE MEANINGFUL DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE BUDGET AND WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE DEPARTMENTS. I APPRECIATE THE WAY THIS IS WRITTEN AND ALLOW FOR THE DISCUSSION TO BE OPEN AND GET THE OPPORTUNITY FOR MORE INPUT. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN TO CLOSE. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. BASSAN: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF AMENDMENT NUMBER SIX. THAT PASSES ON AN 8-0 VOTE. MOVING TO AMENDMENT NUMBER SEVEN, LABELED G. COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: MADAM PRESIDENT, FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER SEVEN. ON PAGE 11 LINE 25 AMEND AS FOLLOWS. CHANGE CITY COUNCIL DEPARTMENT TO CITY COUNCIL STAFF. I THINK THAT WAS A TYPO THAT SOMEHOW GOT IN WITH ALL THE CHANGES. JUST MAKING CLARIFICATION. >>COUN. BASSAN: THERE'S A MOTION, IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND BY COUNCILOR GROUT. ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, COUNCILORS? ANYTHING FROM THE ADMIN? COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN TO CLOSE. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. BASSAN: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF AMENDMENT NUMBER SEVEN TO COMMITTEE SUB-O-67 RAISE YOUR HAND AND SAY YES. ANYONE OPPOSED? THAT PASSES ON AN 8-0 VOTE. WE'RE MOVE TO AMENDMENT NUMBER EIGHT. COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, EIGHT IN YOUR iPAD. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: I DON'T NEED TO MOVE IT. IF IT'S ALL RIGHT, YOU'LL MOVE TO I. >>COUN. BASSAN: WE'RE SKIPPING H, MOVE TO I. THIS WILL BE NUMBER EIGHT FOR AMENDMENT. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER EIGHT, ON PAGE 14, LINE ONES THROUGH SIX, AMEND AS FOLLOWS. IT WILL NOW SAY SEPARATE PROGRAM STRATEGY SHALL BE INCLUDED FOR ANY ENTERPRISE FUND THAT REEFBDZ GENERAL FUND REVENUES. THE PROGRAM STRATEGY SHALL INCLUDE DESCRIPTION OF GENERAL REVENUE FOND USES AND OTHER FUNDING SOURCES AS APPLICABLE. I MOVE THAT AMENDMENT. >>COUN. BASSAN: THERE'S MOTION. IS THERE A SECOND? THERE'S SECOND FROM COUNCILOR GROUT. COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. WE HAD SOME VERY SPECIFIC REQUIREMENTS FOR TRANSIT, WHICH I THINK PROBABLY WERE VERY MUCH NEEDED WHEN TRANSIT WAS FIRST GETTING SET UP. I THOUGHT IT MIGHT MAKE SENSE THAT THERE'S NO OTHER REF RENESES TO MAKE IT A GENERIC STATEMENT THAT IF WE SPEND GENERAL FUND ON ANY ENTERPRISE FUND WE NEED THAT PROGRAM INFORMATION IN THE BUDGET. >>COUN. BASSAN: ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ? FROM THE ADMIN? NOTHING TO ADD. COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN TO CLOSE. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. BASSAN: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF AMENDMENT EIGHT, COMMITTEE SUB-O-67, RAISE YOUR HAND AND SAY YES. ANYONE OPPOSED? THAT PASSES ON AN 8-0 VOTE. WE'RE MOVING TO AMENDMENT NUMBER NINE, LABELED J IN YOUR PACKET. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER NINE, ON PAGE 22, LINES 22, STRIKE THE SENTENCE THAT SAYS IT SHALL BE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE MAYOR'S ADMINISTRATION TO SUBMIT THE REPORT EARLY ENOUGH TO ALLOW FOR TIME REFERRAL AND COUNCIL CONSIDERATION. SO, THE SENTENCE BEFORE THIS ACTUALLY SPECIFIES EXACTLY IT'S REQUIRED. IT'S VERY CLEAR IN THE SENTENCE BEFORE THAT IT HAS TO BE SUBMITTED NO LATER THAN 60 CALENDAR DAYS AFTER THE END OF THE FISCAL QUARTER. I THINK THIS SENTENCE IS NO LONGER NEEDED. IT'S REALLY CONFUSING PAUSE THE OTHER ONE HAS AN EXACT CALENDAR TIMELINE. >>COUN. BASSAN: ANY QUESTIONS, COUNCILORS? ANYTHING FROM THE ADMIN? NONE. COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN TO CLOSE. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. BASSAN: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF AMENDMENT NINE. RAISE YOUR HAND AND SAY YES. ANY OPPOSED? THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. WE'RE ON TO AMENDMENT NUMBER TEN. LABELED K. COUNCILOR GROUT. >>COUN. GROUT: MADAM PRESIDENT, FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER TEN. ON PAGE, LINE 14, AMEND THE FOLLOWING. ALL BUDGET CALL DOCUMENTS FOR EACH DEPARTMENT NEEDS REQUEST FORM. THIS DEFINES WHAT THE EXAMPLES OF WHAT THE DOCUMENTS AND FORMS SHOULD BE IN THE BUDGET CALL. >>COUN. BASSAN: MOTION FOR AMENDMENT TEN. IS THERE A SECOND. SECOND FROM COUNCILOR CHAMPINE. ANYTHING TO ADD, COUNCILOR GROUT? >>COUN. GROUT: NO. >>COUN. BASSAN: ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, THIS IS WHY I DIDN'T NEED TO MOVE MINE. THIS IS A BETTER ONE BROUGHT FORWARD. I'D LIKE TO ASK THE ADMINISTRATION, LAST TIME WE HAD A CONVERSATION AROUND THIS, DOES THIS DEFINITION MAKE SENSE TO THE FOLKS PREPARING THE PROPOSED BUDGET? >>COUN. BASSAN: MADAM CAO. >> THANK YOU, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, I DID SPEAK WITH THE COUNCILOR ABOUT THIS SPECIFIC LANGUAGE. OUR TEAM HAS LOOKED AT THIS LANGUAGE AND WE BELIEVE EVERY ITEM THAT'S IN THIS LIST IS ALREADY BEING PROVIDED AS PART OF THE PROCESS BETWEEN THE AMENDMENT THAT WAS MADE COUNCILOR BASSAN LAST MEETING AS WELL AS WITHIN THE BUDGET DOCUMENTS WE SUBMIT. WE BELIEVE THIS LANGUAGE IS REDUNDANT IN THAT REGARD. I RECOGNIZE MY QUESTION LAST TIME CAUSED -- WHEN I TALKED ABOUT THIS SPECIFIC LANGUAGE, THE BUDGET CALL DOCUMENT IS A MEMO THAT DIRECTS DEPARTMENTS TO BEGIN THE WORK AND BEGIN THE PROCESS OF WHICH WE WILL DO TO COMPILE THE PROPOSED BUDGET. FOR THE SAKE OF CLAR TEA BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON CLARITY, I WOULD SAY THIS LANGUAGE IS UNNECESSARY AND IT COULD REMAIN AS IT SAYS THE BUDGET CALL DOCUMENTS FOR EACH DOCUMENT. IT WOULD BE ONE BUDGET CALL WE PROVIDE FOR YOU TO SEE THAT. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR GROUT. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. WHAT IS A BUDGET CALL? THAT'S WHAT THIS DEFINES. WHILE I UNDERSTAND THAT ALL OF THE THINGS IN A PREVIOUS AMENDMENT LIST ALL THOSE THINGS, THIS NOW SAYS WHAT IT IS. IT'S A CALL TO BE READY TO DO YOUR JOB TO WORK AND BRING ALL THE DOCUMENTS TOGETHER. IT'S NOT GOING TO HURT ANYTHING. AND IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE CLEAR. >>COUN. BASSAN: DID I SEE THAT MR. MOTSCO OR ANYBODY FROM STAFF? >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, REALLY IT'S JUST ONCE WE SEND OUT THE BUDGET CALL IT'S TO COMPLETE A FINAL DOCUMENT THAT IS PROVIDED WITHIN THE BUDGET CALL DOCUMENT THAT WE SUBMIT. IT'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT WORKING PAPERS THAT THEY USE TO COMPILE THAT FOR THE FINAL PRODUCT. WE'RE ALREADY DOING THAT AND SUPPLYING THAT. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. >>COUN. BASSAN: MADAM VICE PRESIDENT. >>COUN. PEÑA: I GUESS I WOULD LIKE TO ASK OUR STAFF. THERE WAS REFERENCE TO AN AMENDMENT THAT WAS PASSED LAST WEEK, IS IT REDUNDANT OR NOT? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR PEÑA, USUALLY WE GET SOME OF THE INFORMATION FROM THE CAO HEARING. BUT WE DON'T REGULARLY GET EVERYTHING THAT IS GIVEN THROUGH THE BUDGET CALL. THERE ARE SOME FORMS THAT WE DO GET THROUGH THE CAO HEARING, BUT THERE ARE OTHER FORMS WE DO NOT. I DON'T BELIEVE THAT IT'S REDUNDANT. I THINK IT'S GIVING SOME EXAMPLES OF WHAT THAT INCLUDES, MEANING ALL OF THEM. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. WHELAN. >> WHAT WE DO IS WE HAVE OUR FINALIZED INFORMATION AFTER THE BUDGET HEARING WITH OUR DEPARTMENTS. THOSE ARE THE DOCUMENTS WE ALREADY ARE WILLING TO PROVIDE. THINGS THAT HAPPEN BEFORE THAT, OR THAT WE DISCUSS WITH THE DEPARTMENTS, THOSE ARE WORKING DOCUMENTS THAT MAY NOT MAKE IT TO THE FINAL BUDGET. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? COUNCILOR GROUT TO CLOSE. >>COUN. GROUT: I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. BASSAN: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF AMENDMENT TEN TO COMMITTEE SUB-O-67 RAISE YOUR HAND AND SAY YES. THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. COUNCILORS, ANY OTHER AMENDMENTS THAT I DON'T KNOW ABOUT? ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE. LET'S GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT. ALTHOUGH, I'M NOT SURE MS. DOSS IS HERE. WE'LL GIVE IT A WHIRL. >> WE HAVE ANAMI DOSS TO SPEAK. >>COUN. BASSAN: ALL RIGHT. WE'RE BACK ON THE BILL AS AMENDED. COUNCILORS, ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? ALL RIGHT. ANYTHING FROM THE ADMIN? >> THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. THERE'S A COUPLE ITEMS THAT WERE PASSED IN MEPTS -- AMENDMENTS LAST MEETING. I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT JUST BECAUSE ON PAGE 13, LINE -- I THINK I HAVE THESE RIGHT, 10 AND 11, THERE'S SPECIFICALLY THE AMENDMENT RELATED TO LANGUAGE ABOUT NO NEGATIVE APPROPRIATIONS. I KNOW COUNCILOR LEWIS PASSED THIS IN THE LAST MEETING, OR INTRODUCED IT. THE ISSUE THAT OF WHERE THIS CAME ABOUT WAS RELATED TO -- I THINK COUNCILOR BASSAN MAY REMEMBER THIS. THREE COUNCILORS WORKED WITH US RELATED TO CONCERNS AROUND SENSE OF THERE BEING A SLUSH FUND. AND FROM WHAT THE STAFF BROUGHT ME BACK BECAUSE I WAS NOT AROUND WHEN THAT OCCURRED. THERE'S ATTEMPTS TO ENSURE UNDERSTANDING THAT WHEN WE HAVE VACANCY SAVINGS IN OUR BUDGET BASED UPON STAFFING LEVELS INTO OUR BUDGET FOR THERE TO BE MORE TRANSPARENCY AROUND WHERE WE WOULD BE IN A POSITION THAT WE NEED TO USE VACANCY SAVINGS FOR PROGRAMMATIC EXPENSES. I'M GOING TO USE AN EXAMPLE. IF WE WERE IN A POSITION WHERE THERE'S A DEPARTMENT THAT HAD 100 POSITIONS FUNDED, AND WE KNOW THAT DEPARTMENT IS RUNNING AT A VACANCY RATE OF 2% TO 7%. WE'LL TAKE 7%. WE KNOW THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE SEVEN POSITIONS VACANT. AND LET'S SAY IT EQUALS $100 MILLION. WHAT IT ALLOWS FOR US IS TO KNOW IF WE'RE ABLE TO STAFF FULLY WE HAVE THE BUDGET TO STAFF BECAUSE WE BELIEVE THAT WE NEED THOSE POSITIONS. KNOWING PERFECTLY WELL THAT WHEN WE HAVE A BUILT -- WE KNOW WE ALWAYS HAVE SOME VACANCY RATES, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THIS AVAILABLE FUND. THIS NEGATIVE NUMBER ALLOWS US TO MAKE IT TRANSPARENT THAT WE BELIEVE THAT VACANCY RATE IS GOING TO EXIST AND WHEN WE MOVE FUNDING BETWEEN VACANCY SAVINGS AND PROGRAMMATIC IT OBVIOUSLY THEN SHOWS UP IN OTHER -- WHAT WE CONSIDER OUR VERSION OF THE BAR WHICH IS MID-YEAR CLEANUP BILL. THIS WAS REALLY IMPLEMENTED DURING THAT DISCUSSION WITH PREVIOUS COUNCILORS AROUND HOW DO WE GET TO BE MORE TRANSPARENT AND SHOW THAT IN THE BUDGET THAT IS WHERE WE'RE PROJECTING VACANCY SAVING BECAUSE WE'RE NEVER 100% FULL IN STAFFING MODELS. DEPENDING ON THE POSITION, WE CAN BE IN A POSITION WHERE WE HAVE MUCH HIGHER VACANCY. I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT'S THE MECHANISM. THE OTHER POINT IS THE NUMBER OF POSITIONS ARE OFTEN NEGOTIATED. AND THEY'RE PART OF OUR CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS. FOR US TO ELIMINATE POSITIONS WOULD HAVE TO BE RENEGOTIATED WITH OUR BARGAINING UNIT IN MANY CASES UNLESS WE'RE DOING A FORCED -- I WANT TO POINT THAT OUT. THIS IS A TOOL TO INCREASE TRANSPARENCY OF WHERE THE VACANCY SAVINGS ARE IN THE DEPARTMENT SO YOU CAN SEE THAT IT MEETS EXPECTATION. >>COUN. LEWIS: MADAM PRESIDENT, A COUPLE THINGS. IT'S NOT CALLED VACANCY SAVINGS. I THINK THERE'S TERMS OF PROGRAM SAVINGS. IT'S ALSO NOT JUST FOR THE VACANCY RATE. THERE'S OTHER PURPOSES THAT IT'S USED FOR THAT ARE UNEXPLAINABLE IN THAT REGARD. MARK, THAT IS THE CASE, RIGHT? I THINK IF IT WERE A SIMPLE VACANCY RATE AND THAT WAS A LINE ITEM IN THERE SO YOU HAD A CUSHION IN THERE -- BUT EVEN THEN, IN THE BUDGET, LET'S SAY IF YOU HAD A VACANCY RATE AND THAT'S NOT WHAT THIS IS. IF YOU HAD A BUDGET AND YOU SAID WE'RE RECOGNIZING THIS VACANCY RATE, YOU'RE GOING TO LEAVE THAT MONEY IN THERE AS WELL. THAT'S ALSO NOT WHAT'S HAPPENING. BECAUSE IN THE BUDGET WE'RE SPENDING IT. IN THE HOPES THAT IF WE HAVE MORE, OUR MID-YEAR THING, THAT'S WHERE IT'S GOING TO GO. THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS MIXED INTO THAT TO THE POINT WHERE IT DOESN'T EXPLAIN WHAT IT IS AND THERE'S NOT REALLY A PURPOSE FOR IT AFTER ALL THAT. HOW WOULD YOU CHARACTERIZE THAT? >> MADAM COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR LEWIS, I THINK YOU JUST EXPLAINED THE UNEXPLAINABLE AS YOU SAID. LAST YEAR, THE FORMER CFO SAID THAT IT WAS NOT EXPLICITLY ONLY VACANCY SAVINGS BUT HE WOULD NOT GIVE US A CLEAR DEFINITION OF WHAT THOSE OTHER SAVINGS IN THE PROGRAMS INCLUDED. PREVIOUS AMENDMENT DID DEFINE THAT. >>COUN. LEWIS: MADAM PRESIDENT, WITH HOW IT'S WRITTEN RIGHT NOW, YOU ALL STILL HAVE THE FREEDOM TO BE ABLE TO PUT VACANCY SAVINGS WITHIN THE BUDGET. AGAIN, I JUST THINK YOU HAVE SOME FREEDOM. YOU'RE NOT LIMITED THERE. BUT IT'S VERY CLEAR ALMOST TO THE POINT LAST YEAR WE HAD UNEXPLAINABLE DISCUSSIONS GOING ON WHERE -- THE BEST I UNDERSTAND IS WHERE THE OTHER PART WAS IS IT WASN'T THE VAC VACANCY RATE. IT'S THIS CHUNK OF MONEY. WE'RE NOT GOING TO SPEND IT. AND WE'RE JUST GOING TO PUT IT IN THIS LINE ITEM. AND THE ONLY POSSIBLE REASON WOULD BE LIKE, HEY, THERE'S THIS AVERAGE OF THE LAST 30 YEARS OF WHAT WE MIGHT HAVE SPENT IN HERE. AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO SPEND THAT THIS YEAR. SO, THERE'S NOT REALLY ANY PURPOSE FOR IT. WHATSOEVER. I THINK IT'S GOOD LIKE IT STANDS. I THINK IT'S A GOOD WAY FOR US TO START OVER. I THINK IT WOULD MAKE THE BUDGET MUCH CLEARER. AND IT WOULD ALSO MAKE IT MORE TRUE TO WHAT A REAL TRUE BUDGET SHOULD SEE WHICH SHOULD BE A REFLECTION OF WHAT WE EXPECT THE SPENDING IN THAT DEPARTMENT TO BE FOR THAT YEAR. IF THERE'S VACANCY SAVINGS RATE, I REALLY THINK WE NEED TO HAVE THE ABILITY TO SHOW THIS BUDGET MIGHT SAVE A COUPLE MILLION DOLLARS, BUT WE'RE GOING TO LEAVE IT IN THERE. WE'RE GOING TO RECOGNIZE IT'S STILL THERE SO THAT WE'RE IN THERE. AGAIN, IT MAKES A MID-YEAR BUDGET PROCESS A WHOLE LOT -- OR CLEANUP PROCESS, A WHOLE LOT EASIER TO GO BACK AND MAKE SOME DECISIONS ON WHETHER THEY WERE THERE OR NOT. WE HIRED THE FOLKS AND IT WAS BUDGETED AND WE SPENT THE MONEY. THAT'S HOW I'D EXPLAIN THAT. I UNDERSTAND IT'S HOW WE'VE BEEN DOING IT. BUT I THINK IT STILL GIVES YOU THE FREEDOM TO CAPTURE THE VACANCY RATE. >>COUN. BASSAN: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I THINK THIS WAS AN AMENDMENT I DIDN'T SUPPORT BECAUSE WITH THE AMENDMENT WE PASSED WITH ALL THE LANGUAGE IT HELPED TO ALLEVIATE. CAN YOU HELP ME? I FEEL LIKE THIS DOES CREATE SOME REDUNDANCY. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. MOTSCO. >> COUNCILOR PEÑA, THE ADMINISTRATION SENDS DOWN A BUDGET WITH A PROGRAM SAVINGS OR APPROVING PROGRAM SAVINGS ALREADY IMPLEMENTED TOWARD THE DEPARTMENT. FROM MY STAFF'S EXPERIENCE OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS, THAT DOESN'T GIVE US A LOT OF LEEWAY TO SAY WORKING WITH THE COUNCILORS TO HAVE THE COUNCIL SAY THIS IS WHERE WE WANT THIS FUNDING. IT'S ALREADY TAKEN OFF THE TOP. THAT WAS THE ARGUMENT THE LAST TWO YEARS BETWEEN THE FORMER CFO AND COUNCILOR LEWIS. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU. >>COUN. BASSAN: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? ANYTHING FURTHER FROM THE ADMIN? >> THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I KNOW I MADE MENTION OF IT AT THE LAST MEETING. WE'RE ON THE ITEM AGAIN, I WANT TO MAKE SURE I BELIEVE THAT IN SEVERAL PLACES, PAGE 13, LINE ONE THROUGH ELEVEN, AND PAGE 24 AND 25, LINES EIGHT THROUGH 32 AND ONE THROUGH SIX, BROADLY -- I KNOW WHEN WE MENTIONED THESE THINGS IT IS FRUSTRATING AT TIMES. BUT THE DIRECTING THE ADMINISTRATION ON HOW TO FORMULATE THE PROPOSED BUDGET, TO ME, IS A GENERAL VIOLATION OF THE CHARTER AND HOW WE THINK ABOUT THE FUNCTION OF THE EXECUTIVE VERSUS THE LEGISLATIVE. IT ISN'T INTENDED TO TAKE ANYONE'S AUTHORITY FROM THEM OR ANYTHING IN THAT REGARD. MY COMMENT IS SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THESE MATTERS WHERE WE'RE TO TURN OVER THE WORKING PAPERS OR EXACTLY HOW WE ARE FORMULATING THE BUDGET IN A FUNCTIONING ADMINISTRATIVE EXECUTIVE WAY, IT PUTS US IN A POSITION TO CONSISTENTLY BELIEVE -- IT BLURS THE LINES BETWEEN LEGISLATIVE AND EXECUTIVE FUNCTION IN THE BUDGET. WE ALL HAVE FUNCTIONS AS CITY GOVERNMENT WHERE THE MAYOR PROPOSED THE BUDGET AND PRESENTS IT TO THE LEGISLATIVE BODY FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AND MODIFICATION AND PASSING. IT'S NOT SOMETHING I NEED TO CONTINUE TO ARGUE OVER, BUT THIS LANGUAGE IS IN MANY WAYS VERY DIRECTIVE OF THE EXECUTIVE FUNCTION IN THIS SPACE. >>COUN. BASSAN: ANY RESPONSE, QUESTIONS COMMENTS? MADAM VICE PRESIDENT. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I DON'T KNOW -- WE DON'T HAVE IT IN THE FORM OF AN AMENDMENT. WOULD YOU CONSIDER AN AMENDMENT TO REMOVE IT, COUNCILOR LEWIS? IF NOT, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO MAYBE DEFER THE BILL WHICH WOULD ACTUALLY DIE, BUT WE WOULD HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR INPUT FROM OTHER COUNCILORS TO LOOK AT ADDITIONAL INPUT OR ANY ADDITIONAL AMENDMENTS THAT MAY BE NEEDED. JUST BECAUSE -- THE ONLY REASON I'M SAYING THAT IS BECAUSE WE WORKED ON THIS FOR A LONG TIME -- IT'S A YEAR NOW. WE WORKED WITH THE ADMIN AND THE COUNCIL STAFF AND I THINK THAT EVERYTHING THAT THEY DID, EVERYBODY OPERATED IN GOOD FAITH. FOR NOW, THE ADMIN COMES TO THIS LATE STAGE AND WE MAKE SOME, I THINK, PRETTY IMPORTANT CHANGES THAT I THINK WE SHOULD AT LEAST GIVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO THE ADMIN TO BE ABLE TO WORK WITH US TO SEE IF WE CAN MAKE SOME ADDITIONAL CHANGES. >>COUN. BASSAN: MADAM VICE PRESIDENT, JUST TO CLARIFY, MADAM CAO, THE LAST PART YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS DIFFERENT THAN THE OTHER ISSUE WITH COUNCILOR LEWIS CORRECT? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, IT WAS INCLUSIVE OF THAT ONE, BUT IT'S ALSO IN REGARDS TO MULTIPLE OTHER AREAS WHERE THE LANGUAGE IS BROAD. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU. SO, COUNCILORS, JUST SO YOU KNOW AND I'M HEARING WHAT YOU JUST SAID, IF SOMEONE WOULD LIKE TO, AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, THERE'S THE ABILITY TO SUSPEND IT THE RULES TO EXTEND THIS BILL BEYOND -- THERE'S PROBABLY WAY BETTER WORDS. BEYOND LIFE CYCLE. AND FOR THE RULES WE HAVE OF ONE-YEAR EXPIRATION. AND IF THE COUNCIL VOTES TO EXTEND THOSE RULES WE CAN HAVE A MOTION FOR DEFERRAL, SHOULD THAT BE THE WILL OF THE COUNCIL. COUNCILOR GROUT. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I DEFINITELY DON'T THINK WE SHOULD LET THIS DIE. YOU ALL HAVE DONE A LOT OF WORK OVER THE LAST YEAR. I DON'T WANT THAT GOOD WORK TO GO TO WASTE. I PERSONALLY DON'T SEE ANYTHING WRONG WITH PASSING IT TONIGHT AND THEN WORKING ON MAKING CHANGES, HAVING CONTINUED DISCUSSION. BUT GETTING THIS STARTED FOR THE NEW YEAR COMING IN AND IN THE PROCESS -- I KNOW IT DOESN'T ACTUALLY TAKE PLACE UNTIL A YEAR FROM NOW, BUT A YEAR FROM NOW WILL COME VERY SOON. SO, I WOULD LIKE TO PASS IT TONIGHT AND THEN CONTINUE MAKING CHANGES IF NECESSARY. >>COUN. BASSAN: MADAM VICE PRESIDENT. >>COUN. PEÑA: SO, I AGREE WITH YOU. THANK YOU. JUST BECAUSE THERE WAS -- I REALLY FEEL LIKE PEOPLE OPERATED IN GOOD FAITH. THERE IS THE OTHER ALTERNATIVE MOTION TO DEFER IT TO THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR AND IT WILL GIVE TIME FOR THE ADMINISTRATION TO WORK WITH COUNCILOR LEWIS ON THOSE ISSUES AND SEE IF THEY COME TO CONSENSUS. IF NOT, WE VOTE ON IT BECAUSE I AGREE. WE WORKED REALLY HARD ON THIS. THEY WORKED REALLY HARD ON THIS. MADAM PRESIDENT, I DON'T KNOW AT WHAT POINT WE MAKE THE DECISION ON WHETHER TO CHANGE THE MOTION OR -- >>COUN. BASSAN: THERE'S STILL A COUNCILOR WAIT TO SPEAK. AND WE COME BACK TO IT. COUNCILOR LEWIS. >>COUN. LEWIS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. MADAM CAO, I TOOK THAT LIKE YOU WERE MENTIONING SOME BROAD EXAMPLES OF MULTIPLE AMENDMENTS OR MULTIPLE THINGS IN THE BILL. I THINK WE DID HAVE A DISCUSSION OVER THE SPECIFIC LANGUAGE ON THE PROGRAM SAVINGS. I THINK WE TALKED THAT OUT. BUT, IF THERE'S SOMETHING I'M MISSING, I'M CERTAINLY OPEN -- IF THERE'S SOMETHING I'M MISSING, I THINK WE ADDRESSED IT AS PROGRAMS OR THE VACANCY RATE. I THINK YOU STILL HAVE THE ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THE VAC AEBS -- VACANCY RATE WITHIN THE BUDGET. THERE'S NOT AN EXPLANATION FOR THE NEED OF PROGRAM SAVINGS. I'M OPEN IF YOU CAN MAKE THAT CASE AT SOME POINT OF HERE'S WHY IT'S A NECESSARY PART OF THE BUDGET. I THINK I KNOW WHY -- AGAIN, I THINK IT'S JUST BECAUSE IT'S BEEN USED FOR A LOT OF YEARS AND IT'S A WAY TO BE ABLE TO SAY WE'RE REDUCING OUR SPENDING HERE. BUT YET WE'RE SPENDING IT SOMEWHERE ELSE. I JUST THINK IT'S A BETTER WAY TO START WITH WHEN YOU GIVE IT TO US. WHEN YOU START WITH SOMETHING A LITTLE MORE TRUE TO WHERE THE DOLLARS ARE EXPECTED TO GO. SO, I THINK THAT WAS ONE PART OF OTHER ISSUES THAT MAYBE YOU FELT LIKE WAS OVERSTEPPING WITH THIS BUDGET BILL. IN THAT CASE, IF WE WANT TO DEAL WITH ALL THE OTHER ASPECTS OF WHAT WE MIGHT BE OVERSTEPPING, OR IF WE RESOLVE THAT THEN I THINK WE'RE READY TO VOTE ON IT. I'M NOT SURE HOW MUCH FURTHER WE CAN GET AS MUCH AS OTHER CHANGES ON IT. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: MADAM PRESIDENT, IT'S A PROCESS QUESTION. IF THIS IS DEFERRED TONIGHT, THEN IT DIES. BUT THERE'S A NEW COUNCIL AT THE VERY NEXT MEETING. IT CAN BE REINTRODUCED AT THE NEXT MEETING. IS THAT TRUE? >>COUN. BASSAN: IT CAN'T BE DEFERRED TONIGHT BECAUSE IT WILL DIE BECAUSE THIS BILL WILL EXPIRE UPON ONE YEAR. BUT THERE CAN BE A MOTION TO SUSPEND THE RULES OF A BILL DYING AFTER ONE YEAR AND I BELIEVE THIS IS A TWO-THIRDS VOTE FROM THE CONSUL IN THE AFFIRMATIVE. THEN THOSE RULES WOULD BE SUSPENDED FOR THIS PARTICULAR ITEM. AND THEN IF THAT HAPPENS, THEN THE COUNCIL CAN VOTE TO DEFER TO THE JAN MEETING. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: WE CAN ALSO LET IT DIE AND REINTRODUCE IT AT THE NEXT MEETING? >>COUN. BASSAN: IF IT'S THE WILL OF THE COUNCIL, YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. ALSO PROCESS QUESTION. WOULD IT BE THE BILL AS AMENDED OR INTRODUCED AS IT WAS THE FIRST TIME? >>COUN. BASSAN: I'M GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT I SEE THE HEAD SHAKE OR NOD AS I DO THIS. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, COUNCILOR, IF WE SUSPEND THE RULES AND DEFER THIS BILL IT WILL BE AS AMENDED AS IT IS TONIGHT AND DEFERRED JUST LIKE WE DEFER IT ANY OTHER TIME. IF WE LET IT DIE TONIGHT AND BRING IT BACK IT CAN COME BACK AS ANY SHAPE, FORM, SPONSOR, EFFORT, DIALOGUE, ANY CHANGES. IT'S A BRAND NEW BABY. THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FOR MY UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT OUR OPTIONS ARE. I'LL PROCESS AND COME BACK TO THAT. >>COUN. BASSAN: ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS OR MOTIONS? >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU, MAAM PRESIDENT. I'LL SUSPEND THE RULES TO EXTEND THIS BILL FOR THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING, WHICH IS JANUARY 5th. >>COUN. BASSAN: THERE'S A MOTION TO SUSPEND THE RULES FOR THE BILL TO DIE UPON A YEAR AND TO EXTEND THIS PAST THAT. YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE IT WAY BETTER FOR THE RECORD. THERE'S A MOTION FOR THAT. DO YOU WANT TO STATE IT BETTER? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILORS, THE MOTION COULD BE TO MOVE THE RULES SUSPENDED TO PREVENT CS-O-67 FROM DYING ON EXPIRATION AND EXTEND TO THE JANUARY 5th COUNCIL MEETING. >>COUN. BASSAN: THERE YOU GO. IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND IT. COUNCILOR ROGERS. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. JUST PROCESS QUESTION. DO WE HAVE TO -- SINCE WE ALREADY HAD A MOTION ON THE FLOOR, DO WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING WITH THAT MOTION? THERE'S ALREADY A MOTION ON THE FLOOR. FOR DO PASS. >> WE HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING WITH THAT MOTION, WE CAN PROCEED WITH THE SECONDARY MOTION. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS ABOUT SUSPENDING IT RULES FOR THE EXPIRATION OF A YEAR FOR THIS BILL? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF SUSPENDING THE RULES RAISE YOUR HAND AND SAY YES. ANY OPPOSED? THAT FAILS ON A 7-2 VOTE. WE'RE BACK ON THE BILL AS AMENDED. COUNCILORS , ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? ANYTHING ELSE FROM THE ADMIN? ALL RIGHT. MADAM VICE PRESIDENT TO CLOSE. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I URGE YOUR SUPPORT ON THIS BILL. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF O-67 AS AMENDED AND SUBSTITUTED PREVIOUSLY, RAISE YOUR HAND AND SAY YES. ANYONE OPPOSED? THAT PASSES ON AN 8-1 VOTE. MOVE ONG TO O-100. COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN BY REQUEST. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: O-100 IS ADOPTING ZONING MAP AMENDMENT FROM NRLM TO MX-M FOR THREE SITES TOTALLING 19 ACRES, AND NRC TO NXM FOR 13 SUBJECT TITS WITHIN THE MENAUL METROPOLITAN REDEVELOPMENT AREA PLAN. I MOVE DO PASS. >>COUN. BASSAN: MOTION AND A SECOND BY COUNCILOR ROGERS. O-100 IS QUASI-JUDICIAL REQUEST WHICH REQUIRES SPECIAL PROCEDURES TO ALLOW THE STAFF AND APPLICANTS THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. THIS AGENDA ITEM WILL PROCEED AS FOLLOWS. COUNCIL PLANNING STAFF WILL HAVE A PRESENTATION OF FIVE MINUTES, APPLICANTS PRESENT FOR TEN MINUTES. PUBLIC TESTIMONY WILL BE TWO MINUTES EACH. THERE WILL BE THE ABILITY FOR A REBUTTAL BY THE APPLICANT FOR FIVE MINUTES. CROSS EXAMINATION BY ANYONE WHO SPOKE DURING PUBLIC COMMENT FOR NEW SET OF TWO MINUTES EACH. COMMENTS BY THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT IF ANY FOR FIVE MINUTES. AND COUNCIL PLANNING STAFF CLOSING COMMENTS FOR FIVE MINUTES. CITY STAFF AND APPLICANTS MUST BE SWORN IN. IF YOU ARE SPEAKING TO THIS ITEM AS A STAFF MEMBER OR APPLICANT, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. THANK YOU. DO YOU AFFIRM UNDER PENALTY OF PERJURY THAT YOUR TESTIMONY WILL BE TRUE? I SEE YESES. WE'RE GOING TO START WITH MS. DELGADO. BEGIN WITH YOUR INTRODUCTION. >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT. I AM UPLOADING THE PRESENTATION FOR COUNCIL STAFF OPENING. GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL. TONIGHT WE ARE TAKING ACTION ON O-25-100. ADOPTION OF ZONING MAP AMENDMENT. CITY COUNCIL, THIS ITEM IS JUDICIARY ITEM. PROMPTING COUNCIL TO TAKE ACTION ON A ZONE MAP AMENDMENT PER THE IDO. WHAT THAT MEANS IS ANY ZMA WITHIN AREAS OF CHANGE REQUIRE COUNCIL APPROVAL AND EPC RECOMMENDATION. THE REQUEST IS REZONE 13 SUBJECT PROPERTIES APPROXIMATELY 30 ACRES TO MIXED USE MEDIUM INTENSITY FROM NON-RESIDENTIAL LIGHT MANUFACTURING OR NONRESIDENTIAL COMMERCIAL. THE APPLICATION IS SUBMITTED BY NINE DIFFERENT PROPERTY OWNERS AS WELL AS COUNCIL SERVICES COLLECTIVELY AND CONSENSUS PLANNING WITH THE AGENT. THE MAP YOU SEE HERE PROJECTED ON THE SCREEN ARE THE PROPERTIES WITHIN THE MENAUL MRA. ALL THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE SUBJECT TO THE ZMA ARE HIGHLIGHTED WITH YELLOW ASTRISKS. THE SUBJECT PROPERTIES ARE WITHIN AN AREA OF CHANGE IN THE ORANGE AND AGAIN, IN THE MENAUL MET REDEVELOPMENT AREA. THAT'S THE DASHED BOUNDARY ON THE SCREEN. THE ENVIRONMENTAL PLANNING COMMISSION HEARD THIS ON SEPTEMBER 18th AND VOTED TO APPROVE TO CITY COUNCIL. ALL THE REQUIRED NOTIFICATIONS WAS CONDUCTED. THAT NOTIFICATION TO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS WITHIN 660 FEET AND ALL PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 100 FEET OF SUBJECT PROPERTIES. PLANNING STAFF DID RECEIVE CORRESPONDENCE FROM THE MARTINEZ TOWN ASSOCIATION AND ONE BUSINESS OWNER WITHIN MENAUL MRA. THEY CONTACTED SOLELY TO REQUEST INFORMATION. IN ADDITION, THIS ITEM WENT THROUGH A PERIOD OF PUBLIC OUTREACH WITH A MINIMUM OF TWO PUBLIC STAKEHOLDER MEETINGS IN FEBRUARY AND JUNE OF 2025. AND ALSO, PROPERTY OWNERS WERE INVITED TO THE PUBLIC MEETINGS VIA MAIL TO THEIR PHYSICAL ADDRESS. WHICH OUR AGENT WILL GO INTO DETAILS. THIS ZMA IS PART OF A LARGER REDEVELOPMENT STRATEGY FOR THE MENAUL MRA. AS THE COUNCIL KNOWS, MRA PLANS ARE RANKED PLANS IN THE CITY. THEY ESTABLISH GUIDANCE, GOALS AND STRATEGIES FOR ULTIMATE REDEVELOPMENT FOR VARIOUS AREAS. THE PLAN HAS A VISION, WALKABLE DISTRICT FOR HOTELS, WORKERS, AND GUESTS ALIKE. GETTING THIS THROUGH PURCHASING ABANDONED AND DILAPIDATED PROPERTIES. INCREASING AVAILABILITY OF HOUSING. AMENDING EXISTING ZONING TO ENCOURAGE WIDER RANGE OF COMMERCIAL AND MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT AND DECREASING INDUSTRIAL ZONING. THESE IMAGES SHOW CONDITIONS WITHIN MENAUL MRA. IT HAS BEEN ANALYZED THROUGH A MARKET STUDY IN 2024. POST-ADOPTION OF THE MRA PLAN IN ORDER TO UNDERSTAND MARKET CONDITIONS OF THE VARIOUS INDUSTRIES IN THIS AREA. IN TERMS OF REAL ESTATE CONDITIONS, THE AREAS MADE UP OF 60% HOSPITALITY, HOTELS. IT'S A LITTLE OVER 1300 HOTEL KEYS IN THE AREA. 13% OFFICE, 19% COMMERCIAL, AND 19% INDUSTRIAL. IT SHOWS YOU HOW IT'S SCATTERED THROUGHOUT THE DISTRICT. THE MARKET ANALYSIS REVEALED -- A STUDY OF THE LAST DECADE REVEALS SOME INTERESTING DATA. SO, IN TERMS OF THE 1300 HOSPITALITY ROOMS IN THE AREA, ZERO HAVE BEEN BUILT SINCE 2015. THERE'S AN AVERAGE OCCUPANCY RATE OF 49%. LESS THAN 50% OF THE HOTELS ARE OCCUPIED. THE AVERAGE DAILY RATE FOUND IN 2024 IS $88 PER DAY. THE AVERAGE FOR THE CITY IS $114. IN TERMS OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT. ZERO SQUARE FEET OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT HAS BEEN BUILT SINCE 2015. IT'S ZERO PERCENT VACANCY RATE AND AVERAGES $10 A SQUARE FOOT PER AVERAGE RENT. WE LIKE TO SEE SOME TYPE OF VACANCY BETWEEN 5 TO 10% TO ALLOW FOR EXPANSION OF EXISTING USERS. IN TERMS OF COMMERCIAL, THERE HAS BEEN SOME COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT. MOST NOTABLY IS THE RESTAURANT PEOPLE WE CAN SEE FROM I-25. COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT IS AVERAGING 5.2% VACANCY. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU. WE ARE GOING TO MOVE TO THE APPLICANT'S PRESENTATION. TEN MINUTES. GOOD EVENING. >> OKAY. I HAVE A BRIEF PRESENTATION. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. AND THANK YOU, COUNCILORS. I'M JACKIE FISHMAN. I SPEAK ON BEHALF OF CONSENSUS PLANNING AND THE APPLICANTS THAT WERE PART OF THIS REQUEST TO REZONE THE PROPERTIES WITHIN THE MRA ALONG THE MENAUL CORRIDOR. AS MS. DELGADO EXPLAINED, THE ZONE AMENDMENTS TO MXM COVER 16 PARCELS THAT ARE ZONED NRC OR NLMN. THE ENTIRE MENAUL AREA IS AN AREA OF CHANGE. THE BASIS OF THIS REQUEST IS THE MENAUL PLAN WHICH IDENTIFIES EXISTING ZONING AS A REGULATORY CONSTRAINT TO REDEVELOPMENT AND REINVESTMENT IN THE MENAUL CORRIDOR. THIS SLIDE THAT YOU HAVE SEEN A COUPLE TIMES NOW SHOWS THE PROPERTIES COVERED BY THIS REQUEST WITH SEVERAL OF THE MAJOR HOTELS IN THE AREA WHICH INCLUDE THE CROWNE PLAZA, RAMADA, RED ROOF IN, AND LA QUINTA BEING APPLICANTS. IT TOTALS 30 ACRES REZONED TO MX-M IN ADDITION TO THE 10.4 ACRES ON THE EAST END OF MENAUL MRA AREA. YOU CAN SEE THE 10 ACRE IS IN BROWN ON THIS SLIDE. TOGETHER, THIS TOTALS ABOUT 41% OF THE MRA AREA WILL BE ZONED MXM WHICH I THINK IS A REALLY GOOD THING. MXM ALLOWS HOTELS, BUT ADDS A WIDER RANGE OF LAND USES INCLUDING MULTIFAMILY AND OTHER HIGHER DENSITY RESIDENTIAL USES AND REMOVES SOME OF THE MORE INTENSE USES ALLOWED IN THE NRLM ZONE PARTICULARLY SUCH AS HEAVY VEHICLE SALES, RENTAL, FUELS AND REPAIR, ADULT RETAIL, LIGHT MANUFACTURING, ABOVE STORAGE OF FUELS OR FEED. ALL OF WHICH ARE MORE APPROPRIATELY SITED TO THE NORTH OF THE MENAUL CORRIDOR. KEEPING THIS ZONED NLN DOOMS THEM TO FAILURE AND ENSURES THEY'RE UNDERUTILIZED AND NOT IMPROVED. NEXT SLIDE. THERE WE GO. TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND, I WON'T SPEND A LOT OF TIME ON THIS, BUT THE MENAUL MRA PLAN WAS A THIRD PHASE OF THE THREE PHASE PROJECT THAT CONSENSUSES PLANNING COMPLETED ON BEHALF OF CITY COUNCIL. PHASE ONE WAS THE REDEVELOPMENT STUDY WHICH WAS A LARGER AREA THAN MRA DESIGNATED AREA. THE BOUNDARIES ARE SHOWN ON THE SLIDE. THE STUDY FOCUSED ON NON-RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES AND ISSUES RELATED TO VACANT BUILDING AND PROPERTIES, DETERIORATED CONDITIONS AND CRIME, CHANGING TRENDS AND MULTIMODE TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM. THE DEAL INCLUDES LARGE RESIDENTIAL AREA BETWEEN CARLISLE AND SAN MATEO NORTH OF THE MALL. YOU CAN SEE THAT AREA IS NOT COLORED WITH THE ZONING. THAT'S WHY. WE DIDN'T STUDY THAT AREA. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. THIS SLIDE SHOWS THE MR AREA DESIGNATED BY CITY COUNCIL IN 2022. WE DID DESIGNATION REPORT AND THE AREA GOES FROM I-25 TO THE NORTH DIVERSION CHANNEL AND I-40 TO PHOENIX AVENUE. PHASE THREE WAS CREATION OF THE MENA PGUL MRA PLAN WHICH WAS ADOPTED IN MAY OF 2023. I THINK SEVERAL OF THE COUNCILORS WERE ON COUNCIL AT THAT TIME. THE MRA PLAN IDENTIFIED 22 RECOMMENDATIONS AND ACTIONS SORTED INTO THE CATEGORIES OF REDEVELOPMENT PROJECTS, INFRASTRUCTURE AND TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENTS AND SUPPORT ACTIONS WHICH INCLUDED ZONING MAP AMENDMENTS IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE FOLLOWING RELATED GOALS. GOAL NUMBER FOUR FROM THE MRA PLAN INCREASE THE AMOUNT OF MARKET RATE AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING WITHIN MR AREA THROUGH THE REDEVELOPMENT OF VACANT AND UNDERUTILIZED SITES AND CONVERSION OF NON-RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS AND GOAL NUMBER SIX WAS AMEND THE EXISTING ZONING TO ENCOURAGE WIDER RANGE OF COMMERCIAL AND MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT AND DECREASE THE AMOUNT OF INDUSTRIAL ZONING. THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE DOING TONIGHT. THIS SLIDE SHOWS THE ACTION PLAN THAT WAS INCLUDED IN THE MRA PLAN. UNDER THE CATEGORY OF SUPPORT ACTIONS WHICH I HIGHLIGHTED ON THE SLIDE. THIS ACTION NUMBER 21 HAS ZONE MAP AMENDMENTS AND COMPREHENSIVE PLANS DESIGNATIONS. I'M SURE YOU ALL RECALL COUNCIL DID APPROVE A CHANGE FOR THE MENAUL CORRIDOR TO BE A MAJOR TRANSALITY -- TRANSIT CORRIDOR. AND THESE DOVETAIL TOGETHER NICELY. I THINK THERE SHOULD BE -- MAYBE NOT. AS FAR AS -- I THINK THERE'S ANOTHER SLIDE. COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT. AS MS. DELGADO EXPLAINED, WE HELD MEETINGS FOR EACH PHASE. FOR REZONING WE HELD TWO MEETINGS. MET WITH SEVERAL PROPERTY OWNERS INDIVIDUALLY. A COUPLE ARE HERE TONIGHT. ALL PRIOR TO OUR SUBMITTAL TO THE EPC. WE SENT OUT NOTICES OF THE MEETINGS NOT ONLY TO THE PROPERTY OWNER ADDRESSES BUT ALSO THE PHYSICAL ADDRESSES OF BUSINESSES. TO CONCLUDE TONIGHT, WE BELIEVE THE ZONE CHANGES ARE REALLY AN IMPORTANT STEP TOWARD IMP LMTHING THIS MRA PLAN. AND WILL HELP THE COMMUNITY RECLAIM THIS AREA OF STRONG REVENUE GENERATING BUSINESS AREA THAT ALLOWS PEOPLE TO LIVE THERE AND HAVE ACCESS TO TRANSIT AND THE CITY'S TRAIL SYSTEM. WITH THAT, MADAM PRESIDENT, AND COUNCILORS, I STAND READY FOR ANY QUESTIONS. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NEXT, WE'RE GOING TO GO TO TESTIMONY BY PUBLIC SPEAKERS. I DON'T SEE WE HAVE ANY. I WILL GET CONFIRMATION. OKAY, I'M GOING TO ASSUME THAT THE APPLICANT DOESN'T HAVE A REBUTTAL. CROSS EXAMINATION BY ANYONE WHO SPOKE DURING PUBLIC COMMENT, WE'LL SKIP THAT. AND WE'RE GOING TO GO BACK TO COMMENTS FROM THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT. NO COMMENTS? OKAY. AND BACK TO COUNCIL PLANNING STAFF FOR CLOSING COMMENTS, IF ANY. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, NO CLOSING COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL PLANNING STAFF. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU. COUNCILORS, ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? COUNCILOR CHAMPINE. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I JUST WANT TO CONFIRM THE AREA. YOU SAID IT GOES TO PHOENIX STREET? NORTH BORDER IS PHOENIX? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE YES. THE NORTHERN BORDER OF THE MRA AREA GOES TO PHOENIX. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: OKAY. THE REASON WHY I ASK THAT IS I KNOW THE AREA IS INDUSTRIAL AND COMMERCIAL. I KEYED ON SOMETHING YOU SAID, HEAVY MACHINERY SALES. DID WE CONFIRM THERE'S NOT LOT OF BUSINESSES. I KNOW THERE'S LANDSCAPING OR ROCK MATERIAL. I DON'T KNOW IF IT GOES NORTH OF PHOENIX OR SOUTH OF PHOENIX. I BELIEVE THERE'S COMMERCIAL -- LIKE 18-WHEEL RIG SALES IN THERE. >> MADAM CHAIR, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE, WE -- THE MENAUL MRA AREA COVERS SOME OF THOSE PROPERTIES. BUT WE FOCUSED THE ZONE CHANGES ON THE PROPERTIES THAT ACTUALLY FACE MENAUL. SO, THOSE BUSINESSES, THE INDUSTRIAL BUSINESSES YOU'RE SPEAKING OF TO THE NORTH, DID NOT CHANGE. THEY WEREN'T INTERESTED IN ZONE CHANGES. WE REALLY FOCUSED ON THE ABUTTING PROPERTIES OF MENAUL. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: PERFECT. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BASSAN: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, COUNCILORS? COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN TO CLOSE. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. BASSAN: MOTION IS FOR O-100. COUNCILORS, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR RAISE YOUR HAND AND SAY YES. THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO ANOTHER QUASI-JUDICIAL ITEM. COUNCILOR ROGERS, O-101. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I'D LIKE TO MOVE ADOPTING ZONE MAP AMENDMENT FROM R-MH TO NRC FOR FOUR SUBJECT SITES. AND MXL TO NRC FOR ONE SUBJECT SITE. TOTALLING 35 ACRES IN THE UNIVERSITY OF NEW MEXICO SOUTH CAMPUS WITHIN THE GIBSON DOWN CENTER. I MOVE DO PASS. >>COUN. BASSAN: MOTION AND SECOND BY COUNCILOR BACA. THIS IS A JUDICIAL REQUEST THAT REQUIRES SPECIAL PROCEDURES TO ALLOW THE APPLICANT, STAFF AND PUBLIC THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. THIS AGENDA ITEM WILL PROCEED AS FOLLOWS. FIVE MINUTE FOR COUNCIL PLANNING STAFF, TEN MINUTES FOR APPLICANTS, TWO MINUTES FOR PUBLIC SPEAKERS, FIVE MINUTES FOR REBUTTAL. TWO MINUTES FOR CROSS EXAMINATION FOR ANYONE WHO SPOKE IN PUBLIC COMMENT. FIVE MINUTES IN COMMENTS BY THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT. AND FIVE MINUTES BY COUNCIL PLANNING STAFF. CITY STAFF AND APPLICANT MUST BE SWORN IN. IF YOU'RE SPEAKING TO THIS ITEM AS A STAFF MEMBER OR APPLICANT, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. THANK YOU. DO YOU AFFIRM UNDER PENALTY OF PERJURY THAT YOUR TESTIMONY WILL BE TRUE? THANK YOU SO MUCH. MR. COX, BEGIN WITH YOUR INTRODUCTION. WELCOME. >> GOOD EVENING, MADAM PRESIDENT, CITY COUNCILOR. I PRESENT TO YOU O-25-101 WHICH IS MAP AMENDMENT. THIS ZONE MAP AMENDMENT IS TO REZONE FIVE PROPERTY PARCELS NORTH OF GIBSON BOULEVARD AND EAST OF I-25. IT'S CLOSE TO THE STADIUM ON YAUFRT BOULEVARD. SOUTH OF CENTRAL AVENUE. IT'S CURRENTLY ZONED AS RMH AND MXM. AND THE THE ORDINANCE IS TO REZONE APPROXIMATELY 35 ACRES OF UNDEVELOPED LAND TO NRC ZONE DISTRICT. A BRIEF BACKGROUND ABOUT THE SITE, THE SUBJECT SITE ARE PART OF THE UNM SOUTH CAMPUS DISTRICT. THEY'RE ALSO WITHIN THE GIBSON COMMERCIAL CENTER AS DESIGNATED BY THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN, WHICH HAS THE GOAL OF GENERATING FUNDS WITHIN THE AREA. THE GIBSON COMMERCIAL CENTER IS PROPOSED WITH 400,000 SQUARE FOOT OF RETAIL. RESTAURANTS. AND 50,000 SQUARE FOOT OF RESIDENTIAL USES. THIS SUBJECT SITE IS PART OF ON EMPLOYMENT CENTER AS IDENTIFIED BY THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. EMPLOYMENT CENTERS ARE INTENDED TO REMAIN PREDOMINANTLY INDUSTRY BUSINESS AND RETAIL CENTERS CREATING FUTURE JOB OPPORTUNITIES. THEY TEND TO BE ART ORIENTED AND PROVIDE EXCELLENT ACCESS TO ROAD. ONCE THE EMPLOYMENT CENTER IS AT LEAST 80% DEVELOPED WITH NON-RESIDENTIAL USES, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THEN SUPPORTS FOR FURTHERDITIONAL RESIDENTIAL USERS. IF APPROVED, NRC ZONE WOULD SUPPORT THE GOALS AND POLICIES OF EMPLOYMENT CENTERED IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN BY SUPPORTING MORE INTENSE LAND USE AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. THIS WOULD ALLOW FOR ADDITIONAL REDEVELOPMENT OPTION BEYOND THOSE IN THE EXISTING ZONING. AT PRESENT, THE EMPLOYMENT CENTER HAS NOT YET REACHED THE 80% NON-RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT THRESHOLD. THE SUBJECT SITE IS ALSO LOCATED IN AREA OF CHANGE AND AS PER THE IDO THE APPLICANT HAS PROVIDED SIGNIFICANT EVIDENCE TO PROVE THAT THE EXISTING ZONING IS INAPPROPRIATE AND A DIFFERENT ZONE, LIKE NRC ZONE, WOULD BE MORE ADVANTAGEOUS TO THE COMMUNITY. IF APPROVED, THE ZONE MAP AMENDMENT WILL CHANGE THE FOCUS FROM HIGH DENSITY MIXED MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL AND NEIGHBORHOOD SCALE MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT TO A MEDIUM LARGE-SCALE RETAIL OFFICES COMMERCIAL AND NON-RESIDENTIAL USE. THE SUBJECT SITES ARE OWNED BY UNM AND IS NOT ALLOWED TO ADHERE TO MULTIPLE ZONING REGULATIONS. BUT THE PLAN IS TO RESALE THE PROPERTIES TO PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT AFTER THE ZONE MAP AMENDMENT. THE NRC ZONE WILL FURTHER ALIGN WITH THE DEVELOPMENT OF LARGE RETAIL STORES SUPPORTING STRONG BUSINESSES TO GROW AND GENERATE FUNDS THAT CAN BE REINVESTED IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF INFRASTRUCTURE WITHIN DISTRICT BOUNDARY. THE ENVIRONMENTAL PLANNING COMMISSION HEARD THIS CASE ON OCTOBER 16th AND RECOMMENDED APPROVAL TO CITY COUNCIL. THIS IS A QUASI-JUDICIAL MATTER, AND HENCE WAS NOT HEARD AT LUPZ. AND ITS YOURS TO MAKE THE DECISION. WITH THAT, I'M OPEN TO ANY QUESTIONS. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO THE APPLICANT'S PRESENTATION FOR TEN MINUTES. GOOD EVENING. >> GOOD EVENING. MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILORS. I'M JIM STREZER. IT'S A PLEASURE TO REPRESENT LOBO DEVELOPMENT AND UNM ON THIS APPLICATION. I ALSO WANT TO THANK STAFF AND ALL THE EFFORTS THAT WE TOOK TO GET HERE INCLUDING THE EPC PROCESS. AND I DO HAVE A PRESENTATION. I BELIEVE IT IS UP. AWESOME. ALL RIGHT. FIRST SLIDE, PLEASE. WITH THIS PRESENTATION, I'M TRYING TO GO THROUGH THIS QUICKLY. I KNOW SOME OF IT WAS COVERED. I THINK SOME OF THE KEY POINTS I WANT TO MAKE TONIGHT IS THE EPC DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL. THIS APPLICATION IMPLEMENTS UNM'S SOUTH CAMPUS MASTER PLAN AND THE 2025 UNM INTEGRATED CAMPUS PLAN. IT HELPS FUND AND IMPLEMENT THE SOUTH CAMPUS TID. IT ADDRESSES THE FOOD AND RETAIL SERVICES DESERT THIS PROPERTY IS CENTRALLY LOCATED WITHIN. AND IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE EMPLOYMENT CENTER POLICIES IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND ULTIMATELY THE QUESTION OF ZONING AND WHY IT MATTERS. NEXT SLIDE. THE 2025UNM INTEGRATED CAMPUS PLAN AND SOUTH CAMPUS MASTER PLAN DESIGNATE THIS AREA FOR RETAIL AND RETAIL AND SURFACE USES. THE 2025 ICP CALLS FOR THE SOUTH CAMPUS TO ALIGN WITH THE PLAN TIDD LAND USES WHICH THIS DOES. MULTIPLE OPPORTUNITIES FOR MIXED USE AND RESIDENTIAL OR OTHER PROPERTIES WITHIN THE DISTRICT. SO, WE CAN STILL ADDRESS THOSE USES AS WAS DISCUSSED. I'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THIS. ONCE THAT EMPLOYMENT IS MORE THAN 80% DEVELOPED, THERE WILL BE OPPORTUNITIES TO LOOK AT THOSE ADDITIONAL AREAS, WHETHER THEY'RE A PART OF THIS SITE OR OTHER PARTS OF THE SOUTH CAMPUS DISTRICT THAT CAN HELP MEET THOSE GOALS. NEXT. THE SOUTH CAMPUS TIDD, THIS IS APPROXIMATELY 337 ACRES. AND INCLUDES MUCH LARGER. YOU CAN SEE THE PROPERTY THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW AT THE SOUTH END. CLOSER TO GIBSON BOULEVARD. IT WAS ADOPTED IN 2021 BY BOTH THE CITY AND UNIVERSITY. IT'S CREATED TO FINANCE PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE. THAT'S CRITICAL HERE. BECAUSE I KNOW ONE OF THE COMMENTS IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS THESE EMPLOYMENT CENTERS ARE AUTO-ORIENTED. IN THIS CASE, I THINK THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES TO DO THINGS MUCH GREATER THAN THAT. THAT IS, YES, WE'RE GOING TO MAKE SURE IT HAS GREAT AUTO AND TRUCK ACCESS BECAUSE OF PROXIMITY AND ACCESS TO GIBSON, I-25 AND UNIVERSITY. BUT IT'S ALSO CONNECTED TO A PEDESTRIAN SPINE THAT WILL PROVIDE DIRECT CONNECTION TO THIS RETAIL CENTER TO THE NORTH TO THE ATHLETIC FACILITIES TO UNIVERSITY BOULEVARD. THERE WILL BE A NEW STOPLIGHT AT UNIVERSITY BOULEVARD. THIS COUNCIL JUST APPROVED A PLAT ACTION THAT'S GOING THROUGH THE DHO PROCESS THAT WILL FACILITATE THOSE THINGS. ALL OF THESE ITEMS ARE WORKING TOGETHER TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN. THERE'S TRANSIT IMPROVEMENTS, SIDEWALK IMPROVEMENTS. THERE'S LOT OF THINGS, TRAILS, THAT THIS PROJECT IS GOING TO HELP TO FACILITATE THAT MAKE IT MUCH MORE OF A MULTIMODAL OPPORTUNITY THAN STRICTLY JUST AUTO-ORIENTED. THIS WILL HELP FACILITATE THE ANTICIPATED RETAIL USES. I TALKED AT THE BEGINNING ABOUT THE FOOD AND RETAIL SERVICES DESERT. THIS AREA OF TOWN DOES NOT HAVE GOOD ACCESS TO GROCERIES, GOOD ACCESS TO OTHER RETAIL SERVICES, RESTAURANTS, OTHER OPPORTUNITIES THAT MUCH OF OTHER PARTS OF OUR CITY HAVE ACCESS TO. AND IT'S ACTUALLY BEEN DESIGNATED THE TOP SLIDE SHOWS THE DESIGNATION OF THE FOOD DESERT AND THEN THE LOWER SLIDE SHOWS THE RETAIL SERVICE DESERT. THESE ARE AREAS THAT ARE UNDERSERVED FOR THESE USES. THIS ZONE MAP AMENDMENT IS GOING TO HELP ADDRESS THAT AS WELL. THE COMP PLAN DESIGNATES ACE THIS AS AN EMPLOYMENT CENTER. IT'S HELP TO PROMOTE RETAIL USES, OFFICE, R&D USES, JOB CREATION. IN THIS CASE THIS IS A LITTLE BIT UNIQUE IN WHICH THIS EMPLOYMENT CENTER ALSO INCLUDES A LOT OF ATHLETIC FACILITIES WITHIN IT THAT PROVIDE A LOT OF COMMUNITY SERVICES, JOBS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT, AND CERTAINLY AS I WAS THERE YESTERDAY WATCHING THE LOBOS WIN, THERE'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO BRING THE COMMUNITY TOGETHER FOR THESE TYPES OF ACTIVITIES. THIS WILL PROVIDE ADDITIONAL SERVICES AND SUPPORT FOR THOSE ATHLETIC USES AS WELL. ONCE AGAIN, THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES FOR RESIDENTIAL AND MIXED USE IN OTHER PARTS OF THE SOUTH CAMPUS DISTRICT AND WITHIN THE EMPLOYMENT CENTER. AND IN THIS CASE, I THINK THE ZONING IS APPROPRIATE. BECAUSE THE EXISTING ZONING IS RESIDENTIAL MULTI-FAMILY HIGH. AND MIXED USE LOW INTENSITY. NEITHER OF THOSE ZONES SUPPORT THE GOALS AND OBJECTIVES OF THE EMPLOYMENT CENTER, SOUTH CAMPUS MASTER PLAN, OR THE TIDD. SO, ONCE WE DESIGNATE AND UNDERSTAND THAT THOSE EXISTING ZONING CATEGORIES ARE NOT APPROPRIATE, WHAT IS THE APPROPRIATE ZONING? IN THIS CASE, WE FEEL STRONGLY THAT IT'S NRC AS DOCUMENTED BY STAFF. THIS HELPS SUPPORT THOSE AND PROVIDES OPPORTUNITIES FOR MEDIUM AND LARGE FACILITIES, RESTAURANT SERVICES THAT SUPPORT THE COMMUNITY. THAT'S IT. WITH THAT, I THANK YOU VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE YOUR TIME THIS EVENING. AND I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BASSAN: WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO TESTIMONY BY PUBLIC SPEAKERS. IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE ONE. >> THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I AM NOT LOCATING JORDAN WITHIN ZOOM. >>COUN. BASSAN: ALL RIGHT. I'M GOING TO ASSUME THERE'S NO REBUTTAL BY THE APPLICANT. NO CROSS EXAMINATION. ANY COMMENTS FROM THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT? I GOT A THUMBS UP. SOUNDS GOOD. ALL RIGHT. >> PLANNING STAFF WOULD LIKE TO ADD THAT WE SUPPORT THE EPC'S RECOMMENDATION FOR THIS REQUEST BASED ON THE RECORD. >>COUN. BASSAN: I'M SORRY. CAN YOU SAY THAT AGAIN BUT LOUDER. >> PLANNING STAFF WOULD LIKE TO STATE WE SUPPORT THE RECOMMENDATION BY ENVIRONMENTAL PLANNING COMMISSION WHICH IS REFLECTED IN THE RECORD YOU RECEIVED. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >>COUN. BASSAN: ALL RIGHT. MOVING BACK TO COUNCIL PLANNING STAFF. CLOSING COMMENTS. >> NO CLOSING COMMENTS. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILORS, ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? COUNCILOR CHAMPINE. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION. LOOKING AT THE MAP THAT WAS SUPPLIED. IT SHOWS A BUMP OUT ON THE EAST SIDE. IF I KNOW CORRECTLY, THAT IS THE BUS DEPOT. IS THERE A REASON WHY THERE'S A BUMP OUT FOR A CITY-OWNED PROPERTY, BUT I GUESS IT'S NOT. ARE WE MOVING THE BUS DEPOT? >>COUN. BASSAN: WOULD YOU LIKE COUNCILOR ROGERS TO ANSWER? >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, I'M EXCITED TO ANSWER THIS. THAT IS THE GENEVA ARROYO. THAT'S THE LINE ON THE MAP. I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE LOOK THAT SAME PART. >>COUN. BASSAN: LET'S GO TO MR. COX FOR THAT. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: THAT BUMP OUT ON THE RIGHT SIDE. >> COUNCILOR BASSAN, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE, I ASSUME FOR YOUR -- DRIVING UP AND DOWN YALE YOU RECOGNIZE THAT AS BUS DEPOT. THAT IS PART OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN EMPLOYMENT CENTER. THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS ALREADY LOCKED IN TO THE COMP PLAN. BUT FOR THE ZONING -- THE SOUTH TIDD CAMPUS PLAN AND THIS REZONING MAP AMENDMENT ONLY PERTAINS TO THE VERY SOUTHWEST PORTION OF THE BLUE POLYGON THAT IS PART OF THAT PRESENTATION. YEAH, THE ZONING MAP AMENDMENT WILL NOT AFFECT THE EMPLOYMENT CENTER BOUNDARIES THAT YOU SEE THERE. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: PERFECT. THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR ROGERS, DO YOU HAVE AN AMENDMENT? >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. YES, I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE. WE HAVE IN PAPER AND ALSO ON YOUR iPAD. PAGE 17, LINE 25-30, AND PAGE 18, LINES 1-26. JUST REMOVING FINDING, NUMBER 24, AND RENUMBERING THE SUBSEQUENT FINDINGS. AND THIS FINDING IS REMOVED TO ADDRESS POSSIBLE CONFUSION BETWEEN EPC'S RECOMMENDATION AND THE LANGUAGE IN FINDING NUMBER 24. WE JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT. MR. COX CAN ANSWER ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS. >>COUN. BASSAN: MOTION AND SECOND BY COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. ANY QUESTIONS ON THE AMENDMENT? MR. COX, ANYTHING TO ADD? ALL RIGHT. MOTION IS FOR AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE TO O-101. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR RAISE YOUR HAND AND SAY YES. ANYONE OPPOSED? THAT PASSES ON A 9-0 VOTE. WE'RE BACK ON THE BILL AS AMENDED. ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCILOR ROGERS TO CLOSE. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I'M JUST GOING TO FINISH ON THE GENEVA ARROYO. I WAS REALLY EXCITED. I'M SORRY THAT WAS NOT THE BUMP OUT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. IT'S SOMETHING OUR GRATEFUL HAS BEEN TALKING ABOUT FOR YEARS. I'M GRATEFUL FOR THE RENOVATION OF AN UNUSED ARROYO THAT WE'RE GOING TO RENOVATE IT QUICKER THAN I COULD RAISE THE MONEY TO DO FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD. I'M REALLY GREETFUL ABOUT THAT PIECE. IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S REALLY GOING TO ADD. I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. BASSAN: MOTION IS FOR O-101. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR RAISE YOUR HAND AND SAY YES. ANYONE OPPOSED? THAT PASSES ON A 9-0 VOTE. MOVING ON TO R-215, COUNCILOR GROUT BY REQUEST. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. R-215 IS ADJUSTING THE FISCAL YEAR 2025 APPROPRIATIONS FOR CERTAIN FUNDS AND PROGRAMS TO PROVIDE FOR ACTUAL EXPENDITURES AND ADJUSTING FISCAL YEAR 2026 OPERATING APPROPRIATION. I MOVE DO PASS. >>COUN. BASSAN: MOTION, AND A SECOND BY MADAM VICE PRESIDENT. COUNCILOR GROUT TO OPEN. >>COUN. GROUT: THIS IS THAT MID-YEAR CLEANUP WE TALKED ABOUT. I WOULD LIKE TO ASK COUNCIL STAFF TO TALK ABOUT IT A LITTLE BIT. AND WE'LL ASK THE ADMINISTRATION TO TELL US MORE. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. MOTSCO, MS. BROKAW, WELCOME BACK. >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, THANK YOU. AS WE DISCUSSED EARLIER WITH THE O-67, THIS IS THE MID-YEAR CLEANUP FOR FY25. THE CITY NEEDS TO GET THEIR INFORMATION SO THEY CAN SEND IT TO THE STATE AUDITOR FOR THE ANNUAL FINANCIAL REVIEW. ALSO KNOWN AS THE AFR. THERE'S TECHNICAL ADJUSTMENTS IN HERE. I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK TOO MUCH FOR THE INFORMATION. BUT FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE COUNCIL, DEPARTMENTS THAT OVERSPENT WERE RECONCILED WITH DEPARTMENTS THAT UNDERSPENT. THOSE NUMBERS BALANCED. THE MOST IMPORTANT THING INTEREST THE CITY IS TO HAVE A BALAS -- BALANCED BUDGET. IT IS A BUDGET BILL, SO WE NEED TWO HEARINGS. THIS IS THE FIRST HEARING OF TWO. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THAT. MADAM KRRBG -- CAO, TELL US MORE ABOUT THIS. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. WHELAN. >> YES, WHAT HE WAS SAYING, THIS IS SOMETHING WE DO EVERY YEAR. WE DO IT DURING THE ANNUAL FINANCIAL COMPREHENSIVE REPORT WHILE WE'RE GETTING THE AUDIT CLOSER TO BEING FINALIZED. THIS YEAR IT DID COME DOWN LATER DUE TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN. TYPICALLY WE WOULD HAVE HAD COMPLETED AND SUBMITTED TO THE STATE AUDITOR BY LAST FRIDAY THE 13th. IT'S DUE ON THE 15th OF DECEMBER. BECAUSE OF THE SHUTDOWN WE DIDN'T GET SUPPLEMENTS THAT WE NORMALLY WOULD HAVE GOTTEN FOR THE AUDITORS TO USE. THE STATE AUDITOR AND FEDERAL REQUIREMENTS EXTENDED BY ONE MONTH SO WE COULD HAVE TIME TO COMPLETE EVERYTHING WE NEEDED TO COMPLETE ONCE WE GOT THE INFORMATION NEEDED TO BE ABLE TO FINISH OUR AUDIT. IT'S JUST THE CLEANUP BILL WE DO EVERY YEAR. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THAT EXPLANATION. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT WE HAVE UNTIL JANUARY 20th TO GET IT TO THEM, CORRECT? >> MADAM CHAIR, YES. WE HAVE UNTIL THE 30th. HOWEVER WE'RE COMPLETING MOST OF THE FINANCIAL PORTION, SINGLE AUDIT PORTION, BECAUSE WE GUT THE COMPLIANCE. WE WORKED WITH THE AUDITORS WITH REQUIREMENTS OF THE STATE AUDITOR TO GET IT COMPLETED. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. LIKE WAS MENTIONED, BECAUSE IT WAS A BUDGET BILL, WE NEED TWO HEARINGS. SO, WE'LL DEFER TO NEXT -- JANUARY 5th. AND WE WOULD LIKE TO PASS IT THAT DAY BECAUSE IT HAS TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GET IT ON TIME TO GET IT TO THE APPROPRIATE FOLKS. THERE WERE SEVERAL QUESTIONS WE HAD SENT DOWN TO THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT. LAST WEEK. AND I ASKED THAT WE GET THE ANSWERS BACK BY NOON SO WE WOULD HAVE A CHANCE TO GO OVER THEM BEFORE WE CAME TO THE MEETING. WE DIDN'T GET THEM UNTIL 4:32. WE NEED TIME TO GO OVER THEM. I HOPE THAT WE GET THEM WHEN WE ASK AHEAD OF TIME BECAUSE IT'S FRUSTRATING WHEN WE DO GET THOSE QUESTIONS RIGHT BEFORE WE GO INTO THE MEETING. THAT'S NOT GOING TO HELP US MUCH. I APPRECIATE -- I KNOW THAT HAVING TO ADJUST EVERYTHING THROUGH THE YEAR THIS IS VERY TYPICAL. AND I WILL -- WHEN WE'RE READY I'LL DEFER -- ASK FOR A DEFERRAL. >>COUN. BASSAN: MADAM CAO. >> THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. COUNCILOR GROUT, I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THEY DID SEND IT DOWN THIS AFTERNOON. I THINK THE REQUEST CAME IN ON THURSDAY AFTERNOON. I KNOW THE TEAM WORKED A LOT OF HOURS ON SOME OF WHAT WE SENT DOWN. IN A COUPLE CASES, IT WAS MAKING SURE THEY HAD THE ACCURATE INFORMATION BASED UPON THE WAY THE QUESTION CAME THROUGH. THEY PROVIDED IT AS QUICKLY AS THEY COULD BASED UPON THE AMOUNT OF TIME TO GET THE ANSWERS. I DON'T WANT YOU TO THINK ANYONE WITHHELD ANYTHING. IT WAS IMPORTANT TO GET IT TO YOU TODAY. AND THEY WANTED TO ENSURE IT WAS ACCURATE. I WANTED TO MENTION IN THE RESOLUTION IT DOES INCLUDE THE FOUR-PAGE MEMO THAT DESCRIBES THE CHANGES. I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT FOR THE PUBLIC AND ANYONE ELSE TO KNOW IN THIS DOCUMENT WE HAD THE EXPLANATION BY PROGRAM TO ENSURE WE'RE SPEAKING TO THOSE CHANGES FOR BALANCING THEM. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILORS, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? COUNCILOR GROUT TO CLOSE. >>COUN. GROUT: I WOULD LIKE TO -- THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I WOULD LIKE TO MUB DEFERRAL TO JANUARY 5th, 2026. >>COUN. BASSAN: MOTION AND, AND SECOND BY COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE DEFERRAL RAISE YOUR HAND SAY YES. -- >>COUN. BASSAN: THERE'S A MOTION NOW. I BELIEVE STAFF ALSO ENCOURAGED WE'LL DO AMENDMENTS IN JANUARY ONCE EVERYBODY HAD TIME TO DIGEST EVERYTHING AND SINCE WE HAVE THE TWO HEARINGS. WE CAN DO AMENDMENTS AT THE JANUARY MEETING. THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR DEFERRAL. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR RAISE YOUR HAND AND SAY YES. ANYONE OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT. THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. WE'RE MOVING ON TO COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN R-219. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: R-219 IS ESTABLISHING ONE-TIME SUPPLEMENTED COMPENSATION PAYMENT FOR THE EMPLOYEES BASED ON THE GENERAL FUND BALANCE. I MOVE DO PASS. >>COUN. BASSAN: THERE'S A MOTION, AND SECOND BY MADAM VICE PRESIDENT. COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. LAST MEETING WE PASSED A PRE-PAYMENT ON TURF NEED FOR CITY PARKS. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE OUR CITY EMPLOYEES IN MIND AS WELL. SO, THIS IS FOLLOWING UP ON OUR PROMISE TO THEM WHEN WE WERE TO THE BUDGET ORIGINALLY WE GOT TO 2.5% COLA. WE TRIED TO GET THEM MORE. I HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO FIND ENOUGH RECURRING TO DO AN ACTUAL COLA INCREASE. WE DO SEEM TO HAVE ENOUGH MONEY IN THE GENERAL FUND TO DO A ONE-TIME PAYMENT THAT WOULD EQUAL AN ADDITIONAL 1% OF THEIR SALARIES. SO, THAT IS WHAT THIS IS A PROPOSAL FOR. IT WOULD TAKE THE FUNDS OUT OF THE AVAILABLE FUND BALANCE. AND AGAIN, THIS IS JUST SUPPORTING OUR STAFF WITH THE PAY INCREASE WE DID PROMISE WE WOULD LOOK FOR. JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE GOT THIS ON THE BOOKS. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILORS, ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? COUNCILOR LEWIS. WE DO HAVE ONE PERSON SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. GO AHEAD, COUNCILOR GROUT. >>COUN. GROUT: I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS. THIS SOUNDS LIKE A YEAR-END BONUS FOR EMPLOYEES BECAUSE IT'S A ONE-TIME THING. IS THAT LEGAL? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, WE DON'T WANT TO CALL IT A BONUS. WE HAVE DONE ONE-TIME COMPENSATION ADJUSTMENTS BEFORE. THERE'S ONE FOR I THINK $250 CITY HAD -- CITYWIDE. THIS HAS BEEN DONE BEFORE. THIS MONEY IS NOT RECURRING. IT DOESN'T GO TOWARD EMPLOYEE PARA. IT'S ONE-TIME EQUAL TO .5% RAISE FOR SIX MONTHS. IT HAS BEEN -- WE HAVE DONE ONE-TIME COMPENSATIONS BEFORE. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. DOES THIS GO AGAINST THE ANTI-DONATION CLAUSE? >>COUN. BASSAN: WELL, WE CAN ASK CITY LEGAL. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILORS, TO ECHO WHAT MR. MOTSCO DESCRIBED AS PAST PAYMENTS THAT WAS NOT AN ANTI-DONATION CLAUSE ISSUE, THIS WOULD LIKEWISE NOT BE A PROBLEM IN THAT WAY. >> I AGREE. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. I HAVE ONE MORE THING TO SAY. WE NEED FOR THE ADMINISTRATION TO SEND ITS BUDGET. I AM RELUCTANT TO THINK THAT THEY MIGHT DECIDE NOT TO SPEND IT ON ALL NEXT YEAR. AND ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU HAVE EXTRA MONEY AND YOU GIVE IT OUT AS FUTURE BONUSES. I DON'T KNOW THAT THIS IS CORRECT OR THE RIGHT WAY. I DO FEEL WE NEED TO SEE WHAT OUR FUNDS WILL BE. BECAUSE WE STILL DON'T KNOW FOR SURE. AND THIS IS JUST A ONE-TIME PAYMENT. IT'S NOT A COST OF LIVING ADJUSTMENT THAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR. AND I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE THEM. AND ONE MORE THING. I DID NOTICE IN HERE THAT IT WOULD SUPERSEDE ANYTHING ELSE. SO IT SAYS SHALL BE THE PRIORITY USE OF ANY CERTIFIED AVAILABLE FUND FISCAL YEAR 25 GENERAL FUND BALANCE AND SHALL SUPERSEDE ANY OTHER FISCAL YEAR 25 GENERAL FUND BALANCE PROEMGZ APPROPRIATION. THAT WOULD MEAN PARKS WOULD BE PUT ASIDE. I THINK WE SHOULD TO THIS AT -- WE DON'T KNOW THE NUMBERS YIT. I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE THE NUMBERS. I DON'T KNOW THAT $2 MILLION IS THE RIGHT AMOUNT. IS MR. DAVIS AVAILABLE? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT. >>COUN. GROUT: MR. DAVIS, IS $2 MILLION ENOUGH? WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS? >> $2 MILLION -- MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, $2 MILLION OFF OF OUR ANALYSIS AND THE CURRENT PCBR AS DECEMBER 1st, 2025, THAT AMOUNT SEEMS A LITTLE LOW. ESPECIALLY FOR GENERAL FUND. WE RAN OURS OFF OF ALL ACTIVE EMPLOYEES. THERE MAY BE SOME MODIFYING LANGUAGE THAT MAY GET CLARIFIED. LIKE REGULAR FULL-TIME AND PART-TIME. OUR CALCULATIONS, GENERAL FUND WITH FICA ADDED IN IS $2.8 MILLION FOR GENERAL FUND ONLY. ALL THE OTHER FUNDS IMPACTED IT WILL COME OUT TO 3.7. AND THE GENERAL FUND DOES SUBSIDIZE OTHER FUNDS ON HERE. WE PROBABLY NEED TO WORK WITH COUNCIL STAFF ON THE ESTIMATE, NOT KNOWING HOW THEY CALCULATED THEIRS. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR GROUT, ARE YOU DONE? >>COUN. GROUT: I AM FOR RIGHT NOW. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU. I'M A LONGTIME CITY EMPLOYEE. IF I WAS SITTING HERE AND I WAS SITTING THERE AND I WAS LOOKING AT WHAT'S COMING BY, I'D BE LIKE WELL WE'RE GOING TO GET A RAISE. NOW WE'RE GETTING A BONUS TO GET PACIFIED. IT DOESN'T AFFECT MY PARA. THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE MONEY THAT'S GOING TO BE SEEN IN THE FUTURE. I WAS JUST -- I WOULD BE LIKE THIS IS NOT WORTH IT. THAT WOULD BE ME PERSONALLY THINKING THAT IF I WAS SITTING IN THE CHAIR AND BEING INVOLVED IN A SITUATION WHERE I WAS IN A BARGAINING UNION LIKE I WAS BEFORE. I WOULD WANT US AS COUNCILORS TO BEAR DOWN AND MAKE SURE THAT WE DID IT RIGHT FOR THE EMPLOYEES THAT ARE DOING THE HARD WORK. THE RANK AND FILE. THE INDIVIDUALS OUT THERE WITH THE BOOTS ON THE GROUND AND DOING IT THE RIGHT WAY SO THEY GET THE EXTRA COMPENSATION AND PAY RAISE. INSTEAD OF JUST A PACIFYING BUMP. I'VE BEEN THERE. I'VE BEEN ON THAT SIDE OF IT. IT'S NOT FUN. AND FEEL FOR THE INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE BEEN IN THAT SITUATION. TIME AND TIME AGAIN, WITH CITY NEGOTIATIONS AND I THINK THAT THE ADMINISTRATION SHOULD JUST GET WITH IT AND DO IT THE RIGHT WAY. THESE ARE YOUR CITY EMPLOYEES. IA NEED -- YOU NEED TO TAKE CARE AND PROTECT THEM. THAT'S JUST THE WAY I FEEL. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR LEWIS. >>COUN. LEWIS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. JUST TO CLARIFY WHAT COUNCILOR GROUT WAS SAYING. A FEW WEEKS AGO, WE PASSED A BILL THAT ALLOCATED THESE DOLLARS FOR A PARK EMERGENCIES. IF WE PASSED THIS TONIGHT, THIS WOULD IN EFFECT ELIMINATE THAT? >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. MOTSCO. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR LEWIS, IT WOULD PUT THE PARKS SET ASIDE IN SECOND PLACE. THIS WOULD SUPERSEDE THAT ONE. IF THERE'S ENOUGH IN FUND BALANCE, THEN BOTH BILLS WOULD BE ABLE TO BE FUNDED. RIGHT NOW, THIS PUTS THE COLA FIRST. NOT THE COLA, THE ONE-TIME PAYMENT AND PARKS SECOND. >>COUN. LEWIS: MADAM PRESIDENT, I THINK THE DISCUSSION HAS BEEN AROUND ABOUT $2 MILLION THAT COULD BE ALLOCATED. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SIX MONTHS AGO FROM A BUDGET THAT WAS FROM A YEAR AGO. SO, IF THERE'S ANY MONEY IN THIS AT ALL, WHAT THIS COUNCIL DID A FEW WEEKS AGO AS FAR AS PARK EMERGENCY FUND SEEMS LIKE IT WOULD BE ELIMINATED. IF THERE'S A FEW HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS OR IF THERE'S NOTHING, NONE OF IT WOULD GET FUNDED ANYWAY. LOOK, I WOULD LOVE TO GIVE THIS TO CITY EMPLOYEES. I WOULD HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH VOTING FOR THIS RIGHT NOW. IN FACT, LAST YEAR'S BUDGET WE HAD AMENDMENTS THAT INCREASED THAT I VOTED FOR. IN LAST YEAR'S BUDGET, WE COULD HAVE DONE IT. WE COULD HAVE DONE IT BUT THE ADMINISTRATION HAD OTHER PRIORITIES. AND PUT IT INTO OTHER THINGS. WHEN YOU HAD A PARS -- THE LOGIC FOR THE PARKS BILL WAS WE THOUGHT IT WAS BUDGETED IN THERE. WE THOUGHT THERE WAS ENOUGH MONEY. THE PARKS DIDN'T SPEND IT. SO THE PARKS DIDN'T SPEND -- NOT ONLY DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH TO BE ABLE TO DO IT, BUT THEY DIDN'T SPEND WHAT THEY DID HAVE. AND WE HAD A MAJOR CRITICAL EMERGENCY TO PUT SOME DOLLARS INTO ALL OF OUR PARKS AROUND THE CITY. BUT IT WASN'T ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE WE JUST PROMISED WE'D TAKE CARE OF THIS AND WE DIDN'T DO IT. THIS IS ONE OF THE THINGS WE ACTUALLY FUNDED. AND WE JUST PUT IT BACK INTO THERE TO ENSURE THEY SPENT IT IN THE PARKS RATHER THAN WHEN YOU GET TO MID-YEAR SAYING WE'LL SHORE UP THIS OTHER PART OF THE BUDGET. AGAIN, I VOTED FOR AMENDMENTS THAT INCREASED THESE SALARIES. IT WOULD HAVE GOT THEM THERE LAST YEAR. WE WERE TIGHT IN SOME WAYS ON HOW TO FIND THAT. AGAIN, THE ADMINISTRATION PROPOSED IT GOING TO GATEWAY AND A MILLION OTHER THINGS. WE WERE CONSTRICTED ON IT TO BE ABLE TO DO IT. IF A COUNCILOR SAID, HEY, LET'S DO THIS, WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT FIGURING THIS OUT IN THE BUDGET SO WE CAN GIVE A REOCCURRING BENCHMARK THAT WOULD BE UP TO THIS KIND OF AN INCREASE EVERY YEAR. SO IT WOULD BE NOT ONLY THIS MUCH BUT MORE. MY COMMITMENT TO THE CITY EMPLOYEES IS WE'RE GOING TO FIND THAT. WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT. I'M GOING TO DO EVERYTHING I CAN IN THE NEXT BUDGET TO MAKE SURE IT'S RECURRING AND MAKE SURE IT'S A SENSIBLE RAISE THAT IS EVERYTHING THAT THEY NEED THAT MAKES SENSE. SO, I'M WILLING TO DO THAT IN THIS NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET. IF THERE'S ANOTHER SOURCE THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW THAT WE CAN FIND THIS AND DO IT RIGHT NOW, I WOULD VOTE FOR IT RIGHT NOW AND GET IT DONE. IF ANOTHER COUNCILOR THAT WANTED TO PROPOSE SOMETHING LIKE THIS, IT'S JUST A DIFFICULT POSITION. NOW YOU PUT US IN A POSITION WHERE WE'RE ELIMINATING ANOTHER BILL WE JUST PASSED. I GUESS YOU CAN DO THAT. THAT'S HOW WE DO IT. I THINK A MORE PRODUCTIVE WAY WOULD BE LET'S SIT DOWN AND TALK WITH ADMINISTRATION AND GET WITH OUR STAFF AND FIGURE OUT A WAY TO FIND ANY OTHER SOURCE WE CAN TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. I'D ALSO BE WILLING TO -- IN OUR BUDGET YEAR, TO SEE IF WE CAN MAKE SOME OF THIS RETROACTIVE, IF THAT'S POSSIBLE. AND COVER THIS SIX-MONTH PERIOD THAT WOULD COVER. OR AT LEAST MAKE UP FOR IT IN OUR BUDGET. I THINK WE CAN DO IT IN A WAY THAT'S REOCCURRING. IT'S MORE THAN WHAT THIS WOULD BE. AND, YOU KNOW, AGAIN MAKES IT DIFFICULT TO BE ABLE TO CHOOSE ONE THING OVER THE OTHER. I THINK MAYBE THERE'S A BETTER WAY. THIS PUTS US IN A TOUGH POSITION. SO, I KNOW THERE'S SOME TALK -- I THOUGHT THERE'S SOME TALK ABOUT DEFERRINGING THIS OR IN DEFERRAL TIME WE CAN LOOK AT OTHER SOURCES OR IF THERE'S A WAY -- A PERIOD WE CAN FILL THAT IN UNTIL WE DEAL WITH IT IN THE BUDGET. >>COUN. BASSAN: SO, THIS IS GOING TO EVENTUALLY NEED TO BE DEFERRED BECAUSE IT NEEDS TWO HEARING. I HAVE ONE QUESTIONS AND THERE'S SEVERAL OTHER COUNCILORS. MR. WHELAN, DO WE KNOW THE CURRENT FY25 FUND BALANCE IS? >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, AS I EXPLAINED EARLIER, IT WOULD BE SUBMITTED BY FRIDAY THE 13th. WE'RE STILL PROCESSING THROUGH IT. WE'RE WAITING TO COMPLETE THE SINGLE AUDIT TO FIND OUT WHAT ADJUSTMENTS NEED TO BE MADE FOR THE FUNDING THAT MAY NEED TO COVERED. BECAUSE OF THE FEDERAL SHUTDOWN WE HAD TO PUSH THAT BACK. WE COULDN'T KEEP GOING UNTIL WE HAVE THE INFORMATION. WE DON'T HAVE THE INFORMATION RIGHT NOW. THE BILL PROPOSED IS GOING TO GO TO THAT 25 FUND BALANCE. >>COUN. BASSAN: YOU CAN'T BLAME A GIRL FOR ASKING AGAIN. COUNCILOR ROGERS. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. THAT IS THE MILLION-DOLLAR QUESTION WE'RE ALWAYS ASKING. WHAT IS THE FUND BALANCE? I THINK I CAN'T SIT HERE AND NOT SAY THE THINGS ON MY HEART. WE HAVE TO PRIORITIZE OUR PEOPLE OVER GRASS. IF WE DON'T, THEN THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE ANYBODY TOIARYRY AIRRECREATE THE GRASS. I WANT TO CALL ON COUNCIL TO DO THE RIGHT THING ON THE BUDGET. OUR EMPLOYEES CAN'T WAIT. AS SINGLE MOM IN POVERTY WHO MAKES OF WHAT A LOT OF EMPLOYEES MAKE, IT'S HARD RIGHT NOW FOR AVERAGE WORKING PERSON TO MAKE ENDS MEET WITH WHAT'S HAPPENINGENING WITH RISING COST. ALTHOUGH I LOVE THE BEAUTIFUL GREEN GRASS IN MY PARK, I'M NOT GOING TO PRIORITIZE THAT OVER THE PEOPLE. WE CANNOT AS A PEOPLE SAY WE'RE PRIORITIZING GRASS OVER EMPLOYEES. I AGREE THAT WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO WORK WITH THE ADMINISTRATION TO COME UP WITH A PLAN THAT MAKES THIS RECURRING SO IT'S NOT JUST ONE TIME THING. BUT I'M POSITIVE, SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF OUR EMPLOYEES, THEY WOULD RATHER HAVE SOMETHING THAN NOTHING. I JUST HAVE TO ECHO THAT FOR THE EMPLOYEES WHO WORK REALLY HARD AND THEY WANT TO BE PRIORITIZED ABOVE GRASS. I THINK WE SHOULD PRIORITIZE THEM THIS WAY. IF WE HAVE $6 MILLION IN THE FUND BALANCE, THE CORRECT AMOUNT SHOULD GO TO OUR EMPLOYEES FIRST. AND AFTER THAT, GRASS. THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR BACA. >>COUN. BACA: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING NEW TO ADD. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT OUR UNION REPS AND STAFF KNOW WHERE I STAND ON THIS. COUNCILOR SANCHEZ IS RIGHT. WE NEED TO DO THE HARD WORK AT BUDGET TIME. MAKE SURE WE TAKE CARE OF OUR PEOPLE. 100%. I ALSO KNOW HOW HARD IT IS AT BUDGET TIME TO GET THAT DONE. I CAN'T IMAGINE ANYONE WOULD EVER TURN DOWN A ONE-TIME PAYMENT BECAUSE THERE'S PRICES THAT RUP -- ARE UP. AND ALL KNOW. MOST IMPORTANTLY WE ALL SAT HERE SIX MONTHS AGO AND SAID WE'LL DO OUR BEST TO TAKE CARE OF PEOPLE WHEN WE COULD. THANK YOU, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, FOR BRINGING THIS UP. WITH THAT SAID, I 100% SUPPORT THIS. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR CHAMPINE. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: I RETRACT MY TIME. >>COUN. LEWIS: MADAM PRESIDENT. >>COUN. BASSAN: MADAM CAO, AND I HAVE A COUPLE OTHERS ON THE LIST. I'LL COME BACK TO YOU, COUNCILOR LEWIS. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE TO GIVE CREDIT WHERE CREDIT IS DUE. COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN'S BILL. COUNCILOR LEWIS -- I'M SORRY COUNCILOR LEWIS, COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, THE IMPLICATION IS THIS IS ADMINISTRATION'S BILL. WE DID NOT -- IT IS COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN'S BILL. AND I WANT TO SAY I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN BROUGHT THIS FORWARD FOR US TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE COMPENSATION TO OUR EMPLOYEES. I DO FULLY AGREE THAT EVERY EMPLOYEE IS IN A POSITION THEY WOULD RATHER HAVE SOMETHING OVER NOTHING. AND IT'S AN INTERESTING TIME OF WHERE IT'S EVEN MORE RELEVANT FOR FOLKS AS THEY THINK ABOUT COMING TO THE END OF THE YEAR AND NEW YEAR. I WANT TO COMMEND THE COUNCILOR FOR BRINGING THIS BEFORE YOU TO CONSIDER AS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR EMPLOYEES TO RECEIVE WHAT WE CAN IN THE FUND BALANCE. AS WE ALL KNOW, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS AT THIS TIME. I THINK MAKING TO MOVE TO SAY IF THERE'S A PAYABLE FUND BALANCE TO WIN THE BUDGET AND PRIORITIZIZATION OF EMPLOYEES WAS STATED, WHETHER WE LIKE IT OR NOT, WHAT IS SAID HERE IS OUR EMPLOYEES PAY ATTENTION. AND HAVE BEEN EAGER TO KNOW IF THERE'S SOMETHING. THANK YOU TO COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN FOR PUTTING THIS ON THE TABLE SO WE CAN ALL FIND A WAY TO SUPPORT THE EMPLOYEES. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR GROUT. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. ONE OF THE DOCUMENTS THAT FINANCE DEPARTMENT DID SEND DOWN, WE HAD ASKED WHAT WAS THE GENERAL FUND AVAILABLE UNAUDITED FUND BALANCE. IT'S $357,692. THAT'S THE UNAUDITED ACTUAL ACCOUNT, IS IT GOING TO GO UP? I DON'T KNOW. CAN YOU TELL ME ANYTHING ABOUT THAT? >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, THAT IS THE UNAUDITED BALANCE BECAUSE WE HAVE NOT COMPLETED THE SINGLE AUDIT BECAUSE WE CONSISTENT HAVE THE COMPLIANCE SUPPLEMENTED TO DO THAT. THERE'S TYPICALLY ADJUSTMENTED MADE TO THE SINGED AUDIT FUNDS. THAT'S THE BALANCE IF SOME ADJUSTMENTS WERE MADE. WE HAVE TO WAIT TO SEE WHAT AUDITORS SAY FOR SINGLE AUDIT. >>COUN. GROUT: MADAM PRESIDENT, DOES IT TYPICALLY GO UP FROM THAT NUMBER? >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, IT'S NEVER A TYPICAL AMOUNT. THERE'S A PORTION THAT'S IN OUR SINGLE AUDIT FUND RIGHT NOW THAT COULD BE LESS OR COULD BE MORE. WE HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL THE AUDITORS LOOK AT THE NUMBERS AND SEE IN THE PAST THERE'S BEEN TIMES WHERE WE HAD TO MAKE ADJUSTMENTS UP TO A MILLION DOLLARS BACK TO ANOTHER FUND BECAUSE EXPENSES WEREN'T ALLOWABLE COST ACCORD TO THE AUDIT. WE HAVE TO WAIT FOR THAT TO HAPPEN. WE WOULD HAVE BEEN CLOSE THIS LAST WEEK. WE SUBMITTED THE AUDITOR NUMBER TO THE STAYED AUDITOR. >>COUN. GROUT: ONE MORE FOLLOW UP. WHEN DO YOU THINK WE'LL GET THAT FOLLOW UP? >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, LIKE I SAID, THE DEADLINE IS EXTENDED A MONTH. WHEN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN, WE MET WITH THE AUDITORS BECAUSE THEY SAID WE CAN'T COMPLETE THE AUDIT UNTIL WE GET THE SUPPLEMENT. WE DIDN'T KNOW WHEN THEY WERE GOING TO OPEN BACK UP. WE ADHERE TO WHAT THE STATE AUDITOR SAID WHICH IS WE'RE GOING TO GIVE YOU MORE TIME. THEY STARTED DOING THE AUDIT, WE WOULD HAVE TO REDO IT BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T HAVE THE COMPLIANCE SUPPLEMENT. IT WOULD DOUBLE EFFORTS. WE HAD TO SCHEDULE TIME WITH THEM. KNOWING IT'S GOING TO BE EXTENDED, WE WORKED WITH THEM TO GIVE THEM AVAILABLE SO AS SOON AS THE COMPLIANCE SUPPLEMENTS WERE AVAILABLE, THEY COULD START THE WORK. >>COUN. GROUT: I UNDERSTAND THAT. THANK YOU FOR THE EXPLANATION. UNDERSTAND. WHEN DO YOU THINK WE WILL HAVE A NUMBER? >> IT'S DUE ON THE 15th OF JANUARY. PRETTY SURE THEY GIVE IT A MONTH. >>COUN. GROUT: I THINK IT WAS THE 20th. BUT WHEN WILL WE KNOW -- >> COUNCILOR GROUT, WE WON'T KNOW UNTIL THEY START THE WORK. THEY'RE GOING TO START THE WORK SOON. >>COUN. GROUT: FOLLOW UP. HOW LONG DOES IT TYPICALLY TAKE FOR US TO HEAR? WE ALL WANT TO KNOW. >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, WE'D HAVE TO DISCUSS IT WITH THE AUDITORS BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO TELL US HOW LONG IT TAKES THEM TO AUDIT THE PROGRAMS THEY'RE AUDITING. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR LEWIS. >>COUN. LEWIS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I FULLY UNDERSTOOD THIS IS COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN'S BILL. AND YOU KNOW, THE ADMINISTRATION OPPOSED THE BILL, THE PARKS BILL, AT THE TIME THIS WASN'T ON THE TABLE. BUT NOW IT COMPETES WITH WITH TAT. I UNDERSTAND HOW THINGS HAPPEN. I DON'T KNOW IF SOMEBODY JUST THOUGHT ABOUT IT FRIDAY. I THINK IT'S ENTIRELY JUST INAPPROPRIATE TO NOT TALK TO ME ABOUT IT AT LEAST AND SEE IF WE CAN COME UP WITH A SOURCE, OR EVEN JUST I'M OPEN TO IT. LET'S SEE. GIVE IT A FEW WEEKS. IT'S REQUIRED A FEW WEEKS ANYWAY. LET'S SEE IF WE CAN GET THESE DOLLARS PRIORITIZED TO PARKS. ALSO AS SOMEONE WHO HAS FOUGHT HARD TO INCREASE BUDGETS TO EMPLOYEES, I FIND IT FUNNY NOW THE ADMINISTRATION IS LIKE WE'RE FOR THIS ONE NOW. EVEN THOUGH YOU COULD HAVE THE SAME ARGUMENTS. I DON'T MEAN TO BE PETTY ABOUT THIS. IT'S A LAST-MINUTE BILL THAT CAME UP FRIDAY AND HADN'T HAD ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT IT. IF WE DEIT, -- DO IT, THAT'S FINE. AGAIN, COUNCILORS HAVE TO BE -- AGAIN, I THINK IT'S AN AFTER THOUGHT. I THINK IT'S TELLING OUR CITY EMPLOYEES IT WAS AN AFTER THOUGHT. I KNOW WE PASSED ALL THIS GOING TO HERE, BUT WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO JUST DO IT HERE LAST MINUTE AS AN AFTER THOUGHT. I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE BEST WAY TO DO IT. HEY, IF THAT WILL GET SOME MONEY TO THEM, AGAIN, I'VE BEEN CHAMPIONING THAT THE WHOLE TIME. I DO THINK THERE'S A BETTER WAY. AND THAT IS WE SHOULD HAVE STARTED LAST YEAR WITH THE ADMINISTRATION ALL OF A SUDDEN NOW SUPPORTS, SHOULD HAVE SUPPORTED IT BACK IN MARCH AND APRIL. I'M NOT BEING PETTY, I'M JUST SAYING HOW THESE GO. THERE'S OTHER PRIORITIES LAST YEAR THAN DOING THIS. THE PARKS WAS A PRIORITY. THEY JUST DIDN'T SPEND IT. BUT THERE'S OTHER PRIORITIES. IT WAS NOT GIVING THIS RAISE. THAT WAS NOT THE PRIORITY OF THE ADMINISTRATION. IT IS NOW, WHICH IS GREAT. IT'S BEEN MY PRIORITY BACK THEN. WE WANTED TO ADD THESE BONUSES TO IT. I DON'T APPRECIATE HOW THIS CAME ABOUT. I THINK WE COULD HAVE DISCUSSIONS THERE MIGHT BE SOME OTHER SOURCES WHERE WE CAN DO THIS NOW AND DO EVEN MORE. SO, I'M OPEN TO TALKING ABOUT IT OVER NEXT FEW WEEKS AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO. CERTAINLY, I'M OPEN TO PRIORITIZING IN OUR BUDGET THIS DWROOEX YEAR WHICH IS GOING TO MEAN THE ADMINISTRATION SAYING WE CAN'T JUST FUND EVERYTHING MORE THAN WE EVER HAVE BEFORE BUT WE'LL MAKE OUR EMPLOYEES -- WE'LL SHORT THEM AND THEN IN THE HOPES THE COUNCIL WILL FIGHT IT OUT AT THE END OF THE YEAR OVER DIFFERENT THINGS. THANKS, MADAM PRESIDENT. >>COUN. BASSAN: WE'RE GOING TO GO TO COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN TO CLOSE. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I WILL BE MOVING FOR DEFERRAL. I HAVE A FEW THINGS TO SAY FIRST. FIRST OF ALL, THIS IS NOT AN AFTER THOUGHT. WE PROMISED CITY STAFF WHEN WE PASSED THE BUDGET THAT WE WERE GOING TO FIND A WAY TO GET THEM AN ADDITIONAL COLA. WE PROMISED IT UP HERE ON THIS DAIS. WE DIDN'T DO IT. ALSO, IT'S NOT AN AFTER THOUGHT IT'S A BILL THAT I WROTE AND INTRODUCED. JUST LIKE EVERY OTHER COUNCILOR HAS A RIGHT TO DO. I REALLY DO NOT APPRECIATE BEING INSINUATING I JUST THROUGH THIS TOGETHER. THIS WAS NOT THROWN TOGETHER. I THOUGHT IT AFTER WE PASSED THE PARKS BILL BECAUSE IF WE'RE GOING TO PRE-SPEND MONEY FOR PARKS WE SHOULD PRE-SPEND MONEY TO PAY A LIVING WAGE AND MAKE SURE THEY GET WHAT THEY NEED. I WANTED IT TO BE A COLA. I WANTED THAT. WE PROMISED THEM THAT. BUT WORKING WITH MY BUDGET STAFF, WE COULD NOT FIND RECURRING FUNDS TO DO THAT. THIS IS THE NEXT BEST THING. I HEARD IT'S NOT WORTH IT. MAYBE NOT. IN MY WORLD, MORE THAN ZERO IS ALWAYS BETTER THAN ZERO. SO, THIS IS WHAT WE CAN COME UP WITH. I DO HAVE SOME MEETINGS. I'M OPEN TO THINKING THROUGH A WAY TO GET THROUGH THIS AS RECURRING. AT THE VERY LEAST I WANT TO GET A 1% PAYMENT TO STAFF TO GET THE EQUIVALENT OF A 3.5% COLA FOR THIS YEAR. CAN'T DO THAT DURING THE NEXT BUDGET SESSION. WE NEED TO DO IT NOW. PEOPLE NEED MONEY NOW. AND WE PROMISED THEM MONEY NOW. ON THIS DAIS. WE ALL SHOOK OUR HEAD AND SAID WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT. I'M DOING WHAT I PROMISED TO DO. I HEARD THE ADMINISTRATION SHOULD HAVE PUT THIS IN THE BUDGET TO BEGIN WITH. I AGREE. WE SHOULD HAVE ALSO PUT IT IN THE BUDGET TO BEGIN WITH, AND WE DIDN'T. AGAIN, WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO FIX A PROBLEM. AND WE CAN DO THAT. SO, I JUST WANT TO REMIND EVERYBODY THE MAYOR SENT DOWN COLA OF 2%. WE HOBBLED .5% MORE. WE REALLY NEED TO DO MORE FOR FOLKS. I DO NOT AGREE WE SHOULD EVER BE PRE-SPENDING. I VOTED AGAINST THE BILL FOR THE PARKS BECAUSE I THINK IT'S A VERY BAD PRECEDENT TO SET THAT WE PRE-SPEND MONEY WE MIGHT NOT HAVE OR HAVE OR MAYBE NOT. IF WE'RE GOING TO DO IT FOR TURF WE SHOULD DO IT FOR HUMANS THAT WORK REALLY HARD FOR OUR CITY. I THINK IT'S INCREDIBLY INSULTING TO SAY THAT NOW THAT THIS IS ABOUT PAYING OUR STAFF MORE MONEY THAT THERE'S ALL THESE QUESTIONS. DO WE HAVE THE MONEY? WHAT'S GOING TO BE THE BALANCE? HOW ARE WE GOING TO PAY FOR IT? THOSE QUESTIONS WEREN'T ASKED WHEN WOO WERE TRYING TO FUND TURF. WE JUST SAID THERE'S REVERSIONS, WE'RE -- LAST TIME WE HAD THIS CONVERSATION IT WAS MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS THAT WATERGOING TO BE REVERTED AND THERE'S GOING TO BE PLENTY FOR PARKS AND FOR OTHER STUFF. AND THAT WAS WHAT GAVE SOME COUNCILORS THE PEACE OF MIND TO VOTE FOR THE TURF EMERGENCY. SO, I DON'T KNOW WHAT CHANGED IN THE LAST TWO WEEKS. WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN ANY NEW DATA TO PROVE THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE LESS OR MORE MONEY. ALL I'M SAYING WITH THIS BILL IS WE SHOULD PRIORITIZE OUR STAFF AND THEN IF THERE'S ADDITIONAL MONEY, LET'S FUND TURF. I WILL ALWAYS PUT PEOPLE OVER TURF. WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO MOVE FOR A DEFERRAL UNTIL JANUARY 5th. >>COUN. BASSAN: MOTION IS FOR DEFERRAL. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND FROM COUNCILOR GROUT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF DEFERRAL RAISE YOUR HAND AND SAY YES. ANYONE OPPOSED? THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. FINISHING FINAL ACTIONS. WE'RE NOW MOVING TO ADMINISTRATION Q&A. COUNCILORS, ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE ADMIN? COUNCILOR ROGERS. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I JUST HAD A QUESTION. I DON'T SUBMIT MINE AHEAD OF TIME. FUNDAMENTALLY, I DON'T LIKE DOING THAT. I WANTED TO REQUEST A BREAKDOWN FOR DISTRICT SIX OF SPENDING FOR THE CENTENNIAL OUT OF ARTS AND CU CULTURE. I'VE BEEN GETTING FEEDBACK IN MY FOLKS AROUND ART INSTALLATION PROJECTS THAT AREN'T GOING TO BE INSTALLED ON TIME. I WANT TO LOOK AT THE MATERIC ON MY DISTRICT SO I CAN RESPOND TO SOME QUESTIONS. I WILL -- I KNOW MR. WHELAN AND I SPOKE ABOUT THIS TODAY, BUT I WANT TO ASK ON THE FOR THE BREAKDOWN OF THE GATEWAY NETWORK OPERATIONAL BUDGET. I KNOW WE TOUCHED BASE TODAY AND WE'RE STILL MAKING -- WE NEED A COUPLE MORE DAYS. I JUST WANT THAT ON THE RECORD AGAIN. WE ASKED FOR THE REPORTS THAT WE'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR SENDING THE GOVERNOR FOR THE IGR FOR MONEY FOR GATEWAY AND HOUSING PROJECT. I'D ALSO LIKE TO GET THAT. I'M ASKING BECAUSE I WAS AT THE STATE FAIR TIDD MEETING WITH THE GOVERNOR AND SHE WAS VERY UPSET ABOUT WHAT SHE WAS SEEING IN THAT DATA AND I COULDN'T ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ON BEHALF OF THE CITY. BECAUSE I DON'T GET ACCESS TO THAT INFORMATION. I WOULD LIKE TO BE A TEAM PLAYER AND HELP ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS THAT COME FROM OUR GOVERNOR WHEN I SEE HER EVERY MONTH AT THE TIDD MEETING. SHE'S PUSHING US AS COUNCILORS TO DO MORE FOR ACCOUNTABILITY. THAT WOULD HELP US IF WE HAD ACCESS TO THE SAME DATA WE'RE SENDING TO THE STATE. THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. >>COUN. BASSAN: MADAM CAO. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR ROGERS, THE NOVEMBER REPORT WAS JUST FINALIZED TODAY OR FRIDAY. IT WILL BE COMING TO YOU AUTOMATICALLY. TO ALL OF YOU, AUTOMATICALLY. >>COUN. BASSAN: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE ADMIN? ALL RIGHT. WELL DONE, COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU. >>COUN. BASSAN: THERE BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS, THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED.