NOVEMBER 11, 2025 [ ♪ MUSIC PLAYING ♪ ] >> Mayor Guajardo: GOOD MORNING EVERYONE. THERE HE IS. COME ON DOWN. LIKE THE PRICE IS RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. I'D LIKE TO CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER PLEASE. WELCOME TO CITY HALL TO OUR COUNCIL CHAMBERS. OUR INVOCATION THIS MORNING WILL BE GIVEN BY MR. RAJAN ZED, PRESIDENT OF THE UNIVERSAL SOCIETY OF HINDUISM. >> STARTING WITH THE MOST SACRED MANTRA OF HINDUISM, I SHALL BE READING HINDU SCRIPTURES, SOME AS OLD AS 1500 BCE AND THEN INTERPRETING INTO ENGLISH. WAND INSIDE THE SOUL OF THE HEAVEN. MAY HE STIMULATE AND ILLUMINATE OUR MINDS. LEAD US FROM THE UNREAL TO THE REAL. LEAD US FROM DARKNESS TO LIGHT. LEAD US FROM DEATH TO IMMORTALITY. STRIVE CONSTANTLY TO SERVE THE WELFARE OF THE WORLD BY DEVOTION TO SELFLESS, ATTAIN THE SUPREME GOAL OF LIFE. DO YOUR WORK WITH OTHERS' WELFARE ALWAYS IN MIND. MAY WE BE PROTECTED TOGETHER. MAY WE HAVE KNOWLEDGE TOGETHER. MAY WE WORK TOGETHER WITH GREAT VIGOR. UNITED YOUR HEARTS, MAYOR YOUR SPIRITS BE AT ONE THAT YOU MAY DWELL IN THE UNITY AND CONQUERED. PEACE, PEACE, PEACE BE UNTO ALL. OHM. THANK YOU. >> Mayor Guajardo: OUR PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES AND TO THE TEXAS STATE FLAG WILL BE LED BY JAYLYNN ALLIANA TOBIAS. AND SHE IS A 12th GRADER AT TULUOSO MIDWAY HIGH SCHOOL, SUMMA CUM LAUDE. GRADUATING WITH ASSOCIATE OF APPLIED SCIENCE AND HEADED TO COLLEGE STATION, TEXAS A&M. >> PLEASE JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. [PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE] PLEASE JOIN ME IN HONORING THE TEXAS FLAG. [HONORING THE TEXAS FLAG] >> Mayor Guajardo: GOOD LUCK WITH YOUR STUDIES. >> THANK YOU. >> Mayor Guajardo: MS. HUERTA, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? GIL HERNANDEZ -- HE'S HERE. [ROLL CALL] . >> City Secretary: MAYOR AND COUNCIL, A QUORUM OF THE COUNCIL AND THE REQUIRED CHARTER OFFICERS ARE PRESENT TO CONDUCT THE MEETING. >> Mayor Guajardo: GREAT. THANK YOU, MS. HUERTA. WE'LL GO TO THE CITY MANAGER'S COMMENTS AND UPDATE ON CITY OPERATIONS. MR. ZANONI. >> Zanoni: THANK YOU, MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL AND THE COMMUNITY. WE HAVE ONE ITEM ON THE CITY MANAGER'S REPORT THIS MORNING. AND IT'S TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL AND GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON OUR WATER SUPPLY. I'M GOING TO TALK A LITTLE BIT AND THEN NICK WINKLEMANN, OUR CHIEF INTERIM OPERATING OFFICER FROM CORPUS CHRISTI WATER WILL PROVIDE THE REST OF THE PRESENTATION. I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THAT WE HAVE BEEN AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO BE, FOR THESE NEXT SEVERAL WEEKS, IN THE COMMUNITY AS WE WORK ON TWO GROUNDWATER PROJECTS THAT ARE VERY IMPORTANT TO SUSTAINING OUR WATER SUPPLIES AND MAKING SURE WE DON'T GET INTO CURTAILMENT A YEAR FROM NOW. THAT INCLUDES ENGAGING RANCHERS AND FARMERS AND PERSONS LIVING IN RURAL NUECES COUNTY. WHEN IT COMES TO OUR GROUNDWATER PROJECTS THERE. WE KNOW WE HAVE TWO WELLFIELDS, AS WE CALL THEM. ONE KNOWN AS THE EASTERN WELLFIELD ON COUNTY ROAD 73, AND THE WESTERN WELLFIELD ON COUNTY ROAD 66. TO MAKE SURE THE COMMUNITY KNOWS WHAT WE'RE DOING, WE HAVE SCHEDULED AND WE'RE OUT AND ABOUT ENGAGING THE COMM COMMUNITY . WHETHER IT'S LITERALLY ON THE RANCH LAND AND SOME OF THE BARNS UP THERE OR AT THE FAIRGROUNDS COMING UP SOON IN SAN PATRICIO COUNTY. THESE ARE SOME OF THE COMPLETED ENGAGEMENTS. THINGS TO HIGHLIGHT INCLUDE OCTOBER 28 WE WERE UP IN WELL PAST ROBSTOWN. THAT WAS ONE OF THE BIGGEST TOWN HALLS I HAVE BEEN TO. COUNCILWOMAN VAUGHN WAS THERE AND SCOTT AND CANTU. IT WAS REAL GOOD. IT WASN'T OUR MEETING BUT WE ATTENDED. IT WAS THE GROUP THAT'S TRYING TO FORM THE NUECES COUNTY GROUNDWATER CONSERVATION DISTRICT. THEY WERE HOLDING A TOWN HALL FOR COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND WE MADE A POINT TO GO TO MAKE SURE WE WERE GIVING THEM AS MUCH INFORMATION AS WE COULD. SO THAT WAS A GOOD MEETING. AND THEN RECENTLY LAST WEEK, NOVEMBER 5, THE SAN PATRICIO COUNTY HAD THE STATE OF THE COUNTY WITH JUDGE KREBBS AND I ASKED JUDGE KREBBS WOULD HE MIND IF WE SPEAK FOR A FEW MINUTES TO LET THAT CAPTIVE AUDIENCE KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING IN THE SAN PATRICIO AREA WITH THE EVANGELINE PROJECT AND HE AGREED. GAVE US TEN MINUTES OR SO. WE WERE ABLE TO EXPLAIN THE GROUNDWATER PROJECT TO THAT GROUP AS WELL. ON NOVEMBER 6, WE HAD AN INFO SESSION OF OUR OWN AND COUNCILWOMAN VAUGHN HELPED US SET UP AND SEVERAL OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS WERE THERE, INCLUDING CANTU AND BARRERA AND SCOTT. AND THAT ONE WAS OUR OWN WHERE WE ENGAGED A SIMILAR AUDIENCE IN NUECES COUNTY ON OUR WELLS PROJECT THERE AS WELL. SO THOSE HAVE ALL GONE GOOD. ON OUR NEXT SLIDE HERE, WE HAVE MORE COMING UP, INCLUDING THIS WEEK. WE'RE GOING TO GO TO THE CITY OF ROCKPORT, THEIR CITY COUNCIL MEETING AT 5:00. WE'LL PRESENT TO THEM WHAT WE'RE DOING ON ALL WATER SOURCES, NOT ONLY GROUNDWATER BUT ON HOW WE'RE ADDRESSING THIS DROUGHT. WHICH, BY THE WAY, YESTERDAY WE ASKED THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE HOW LONG HAS THE DROUGHT BEEN HAPPENING HERE. AND BELIEVE IT OR NOT, IT'S BEEN FOUR AND A HALF YEARS. SO IN THE SPRING OF 2021, THAT WAS THE LAST SIGNIFICANT RAIN EVENT AND THAT'S FOUR AND A HALF YEARS AGO. SO THIS DROUGHT IS CRIBBLING AND LONG ENDURING. IT PROBABLY WILL BE THE DROUGHT OF RECORD BUT THEY DON'T TELL YOU THAT UNTIL THE DROUGHT'S OVER, AND THEN THEY TABULATE IT. ROCKPORT WILL BE IMPORTANT BECAUSE THAT CITY COUNCIL AND COMMUNITY INDIRECTLY GETS WATER FROM US THROUGH THE SAN PAT WATER DISTRICT. AND THEY'RE JUST AS CONCERNED AS ANYBODY IN THIS COASTAL BEND REGION THAT WE SERVE. AND SO WE'RE GOING TO TALK TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE COMMUNITY VIA THAT COUNCIL MEETING. ARANSAS PASS, ALSO THE MAYOR THERE, REACHED OUT TO ME AS DID THE CITY MANAGER AND WANTED US TO PRESENT AT THEIR CITY COUNCIL MEETING. WE'LL BE THERE ON THE 17th. NOVEMBER 18th WE'LL BE SEEING THE SINTON CITY COUNCIL. WE KNOW THAT'S WHERE THERE'S A MUTUAL AGREEMENT THAT THIS CITY COUNCIL ALREADY APPROVED TO PROTECT THEIR WELLS AS WE WORK ON THE EVANGELINE PROJECT. THEN I'M GOING TO GO WITH THE TEAM TO THE LAVACA NAVIDAD RIVER AUTHORITY. THAT'S AN EXTREMELY WELL ORGANIZED GOVERNING BODY AND AGENCY THAT MANAGES LAKE TEXANA. WE VISITED THEM LAST YEAR. I'M NOT SURE IF I WAS THE FIRST CITY MANAGER TO VISIT THEM BUT IT WAS A PLEASURE TO BE THERE WITH THEM AND WE TOLD THEM WE WOULD COME BACK AT LEAST ONCE A YEAR. WE'RE GOING TO GO NOVEMBER 19th. IT'S A LITTLE BIT DRIVE OUT IN EDNA BUT IT'S A GOOD BOARD. THOSE BOARD MEMBERS ARE APPOINTED FOR A SIX-YEAR TERM BY THE GOVERN. . LAST YEAR WE TALKED TO THEM ABOUT THE WORK WE WERE DOING ON THE MARY RHODES AND THE UPGRADES . REALLY, WE JUST WENT THERE TO THANK THEM. THEY ARE DOING A TREMENDOUS JOB. AS WE KNOW, 70% OF OUR WATER COMES FROM THAT PART OF THE STATE TODAY. AND SO GOOD LEADERSHIP ON THEIR BOARD AND THEIR EXECUTIVE TEAM IS IMPORTANT TO HIGHLIGHT. AND THEN A BIG MEETING ON THE WEEK OF THANKSGIVING. WE'RE DOING A THANKSGIVING PLAN CHANGING SO WE CAN BE OUT IN THE FAIRGROUNDS IN SINTON. WE'LL BE ENGAGING THE SAN PATRICIO COMMUNITY ABOUT OUR PRIMARILY OUR EVANGELINE PROJECT OUT THERE. WE'RE WORKING WITH COMMISSIONER GONZALES AS WELL AS JUDGE KREBBS AND THE SINTON MANAGER AND MAYOR TO MAKE SURE THAT DATE WAS A GOOD ONE. IT'S GOING TO BE NOVEMBER 24th, A BIG COMMUNITY MEETING TOWN HALL SO WE CAN FURTHER CONTINUE TO EXPLAIN THE GROUNDWATER PROJECTS. IN THIS CASE IT WILL BE MORE FOCUSED ON EVANGELINE. REALLY, IT'S A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO LISTEN TO THE RURAL COMMUNITIES AND THE COMMUNITIES LIKE SINTON AND EVEN PORTLAND. WE CAN MAKE ADJUSTMENTS IN OUR PROGRAM. IT'S NOT SO RIGID TO WHERE WE'RE NOT GOING TO TAKE INPUT FROM THE COMMUNITY. SO THIS IS WHAT THIS IS ALL ABOUT IS TO GIVE INFORMATION BUT ALSO GET INFORMATION. AND HEAR THE SENTIMENT AND CONCERNS OF THE COMMUNITY SO WE CAN ADJUST IN THOSE GROUNDWATER PROJECTS. WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO NICK, WHO IS GOING TO GIVE OUR WEEKLY UPDATE. I THINK THIS ONE WE'RE GOING TO FOCUS ON FOUR OF OUR PRIMARY PROJECTS. RIGHT NICK? THAT ARE IN THE WORKS RIGHT NOW TO BRING ADDITIONAL WATER TO THIS REGION. SO, WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO NICK. >> THANK YOU, SIR. GOOD MORNING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. NICK WINKLEMANN, INTERIM CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER, CORPUS CHRISTI WATER. AND AS THE CITY MANAGER SAID, WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT OUR NEAR-TERM PROJECTS THIS MORNING. AGAIN, THERE'S A LOT OF WORK BEING DONE EVERY SINGLE DAY AND THERE'S A LOT OF EFFORTS. BUT THIS MORNING WE WOULD LIKE TO UPDATE YOU ON THESE NEAR-TERM PROJECT. THE FIRST PROJECT IS THE NUECES GROUNDWATER PROGRAM THAT CONSISTS OF TWO WELLFIELDS. THE EASTERN WELLFIELD IS SUBSTANTIALLY COMPLETE AND OPERATIONAL. THERE ARE EIGHT WELLS ON THAT WELLFIELD. THEY ARE ALL POWERED BY NATURAL GAS GENERATORS. THAT WAS DONE IN AN EFFORT TO EXPEDITE BRINGING THE PUMPING ONLINE. I DO HAVE TO SAY WE DO HAVE ISSUES WITH THE GENERATORS FROM TIME TO TIME, AND SOMETIMES WE HAVE WARRANTY ISSUES. THOSE ARE BEING REPAIRED UNDER WARRANTY. BUT THE GOOD NEWS IS WE HAVE REDUNDANCY OUT THERE AND WE CAN KEEP THE WELLS OPERATIONAL. ADDITIONALLY, THERE IS A BED AND BANKS PERMIT THROUGH TCEQ ASSOCIATED WITH THAT WELLFIELD. WE CONTINUE TO OPERATE WITHIN THE PROTOCOLS OF THAT BED AND BANKS PERMIT, WHICH INCLUDES MONITORING ALONG THE RIVER, BOTH UPSTREAM AND DOWNSTREAM OF OUR WATER WELLS. THE WESTERN WELLFIELD IS A LARGER PROPERTY. IT CONSISTS OF 250 ACRES. CURRENTLY THERE ARE FOUR WELLS THAT HAVE BEEN DRILLED. WELL NO. 9, WE'RE EXPECTING THE ARRIVAL OF THE PERMIT AND PUMPING AND INSTALLATION WITHIN A WEEK. THE PERMIT AND PUMPS FOR WELLS 10 AND 11 ARE CURRENTLY BEING DESIGNED. AND THEN WELL NO. 12, WE ARE DEVELOPING THAT WELL RIGHT NOW AND HAVING CONDUCTED THE AQUIFER AND THE PUMPING TEST YET SO WE CAN DESIGN THE WELL PUMP AND ALSO GET THE WATER QUALITY PARAMETERS . THE CCW TEAM, WHICH WE'RE EXTREMELY PROUD OF, CONTINUE TO DO EXCELLENT WORK AND THEY ARE INSTALLING THE REQUIRED WATER LINES. THAT WILL MAKE THAT WELLFIELD OPERATIONAL. TO DATE IN THE WESTERN WELLFIELD THEY HAVE INSTALLED 2,000 FEET OF WELL PIPE. AND 1,260 LINEAR FEET OF 12-INCH DIAMETER PVC. WE'RE VERY PROUD OF THOSE CREWS . THEY ARE PERFORMING IN AN EXPEDITED FASHION AND WORKING VERY WELL SO THAT WE CAN BRING THIS WELLFIELD ONLINE. THE TARGET FOR THE WESTERN WELLFIELD IS TO BE FULLY ONLINE IN MAY OF 2026. HOWEVER, WE ARE HOPING TO HAVE SOME WELLS OPERATIONAL BY THE END OF THE CALENDAR YEAR. IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THE WESTERN WELLFIELD WILL BE POWERED BY ELECTRIC. WE'RE WORKING WITH NEC ON THAT AND THEY ARE CURRENTLY UPGRADING THE INFRASTRUCTURE TO BRING POWER TO THE WELLFIELD. TALKING ABOUT EXPENDITURES. THE EASTERN WELLFIELD EXPENDITURES TO DATE IS APPROXIMATELY $16.1 MILLION. THE WESTERN WELLFIELD CURRENTLY EXPENDITURES IS ABOUT $9 MILLION. IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT WE HAVE A $30 MILLION GRANT FROM THE STATE AND THERE WILL BE AN ITEM NEXT COUNCIL MEETING TO PROCEED WITH THE PAPERWORK. IT'S JUST THE PROCESS TO GET THE FUNDS MADE AVAILABLE TO US. IMPORTANT PART OF THESE PROJECTS IS BEING A GOOD NEIGHBOR SO ONE THING THAT HAS COME UP AND WE'VE TALKED A LOT ABOUT IS WORKING WITH AREA WELL OWNERS TO HELP UNDERSTAND THE OPERATION OF THEIR WELLS AND IF THEIR WELLS ARE SEEING ANY IMPACT FROM OUR WELLFIELD OPERATIONS. AGAIN, THE WESTERN WELLFIELD, THERE ARE NO WELLS PUMPING RIGHT NOW. THE EASTERN WELLFIELD IS ONLINE. BUT WE'VE REACHED OUT. WE'VE TALKED TO INDIVIDUALS, WHENEVER WE COULD, AND WE'VE SAID THAT WE WOULD HELP THEM MONITOR THE WATER LEVELS IN THEIR WELL. HELP THEM RECORD THEM. SHOW THEM HOW TO DO THAT. WE'VE ALSO SAID WE WOULD TAKE WATER QUALITY SAMPLES SO THEY UNDERSTAND THE QUALITY OF THE GROUNDWATER THEY'RE USING AT THEIR HOUSE AND WE WOULD PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION TO THEM AS WELL. THE DATA IS USED FOR THE WELL OWNER. IT'S ALSO USED FOR THE CITY TO HELP UNDERSTAND IF THERE'S ANY POTENTIAL IMPACTS FROM OUR WELLFIELD OPERATION SO THAT IF THERE ARE ANY ISSUES, THEY CAN BE MITIGATED AND ADDRESSED. CURRENTLY, WE'VE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH SEVEN WELL OWNERS AND WE'RE WORKING WITH THEM. IN FACT, WE JUST TESTED A COUPLE OF WELLS THIS MORNING. AND THAT'S BEING DONE BY CCW STAFF. THE PICTURES ON THE RIGHT, IT'S A TYPICAL RESIDENTIAL OR LIVESTOCK WELL, WHAT THEY LOOK LIKE. SIGNIFICANTLY DIFFERENT THAN OUR PRODUCTION WELLS. BUT THOSE ARE JUST SOME TYPICAL INSTALLATIONS. THE OTHER LARGE GROUNDWATER PROJECT WE'RE WORKING ON IS IN SAN PATRICIO COUNTY. THAT'S THE EVANGELINE LAGUNA GROUNDWATER PROJECT. THE PROJECT, AS YOU KNOW, WE HAVE ASSEMBLED HIGH-EQUAL TEAM CONSISTING OF PAPE-DAWSON, HANSON ENGINEERS, HDR, AND F FRONTERA. THEY ARE PART OF OUR 120-DAY INSPECTION PERIOD . THE TOTAL CAPACITY OF THE PROJECT IS 24 MILLION GALLONS A DAY. AND WE HAVE THE GOAL. WE ARE PUSHING THE TEAM FOR PARTIAL DELIVERY IN NOVEMBER 2026. SOME OF THE WORK THAT'S COMPLETED TO DATE: THE INITIAL WELLFIELD LAYOUT IS COMPLETE. WE'VE BEEN WORKING, THE DESIGN TEAM AS WELL AS STAFF HAS BEEN WORKING WITH AEP AND THERE'S APPROXIMATELY 20% OF THE ELECTRICAL DESIGN THAT'S BEEN COMPLETED. THE MARY RHODES PIPELINE CONNECTION POINT HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED. THAT'S A DIFFICULT TASK AND THAT'S ONE OF THE CHALLENGES OF THIS PROJECT IS CONNECTION TO THE MRP. BUT THE TEAM, THE PROFESSIONALS ON THE TEAM, HAVE IDENTIFIED A LOCATION. AND WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH DESIGN. THERE HAS ALSO BEEN AN INDEPENDENT HYDROGEOLOGIC REVIEW OF THE PREVIOUS WORK THAT INTERA HAS DONE. THIS IS TO HIRE AN INDEPENDENT HYDROGEOLOGIST TO LOOK AT THE WORK AND ENSURE THE GROUNDWATER IS AVAILABLE. THIS WORK WAS COMPLETED BY KT GROUNDWATER AND IT HAS CONFIRMED THE PREVIOUS WORK DONE BY INTERRA AND IT CONFIRMS THE AVAILABILITY OF THE GROUNDWATER. KT GROUNDWATER HAS GIVEN US SOME RECOMMENDATIONS AND SOME THINGS TO CONSIDER WHEN IT COMES TO WELL DESIGN IN REGARDS TO DEPTH AND DIAMETER AND TARGETED DESIGN. ADDITIONALLY, THE CITY HAS PROVIDED THE PRELIMINARY BOUNDARIES SURVEY TO THE EVANGELINE/LAGUNA PARENTS. THEY ARE WORKING THROUGH THAT TO CONFIRM THE TOTAL ACREAGE, WHICH OF COURSE ACCOUNTS FOR THE AMOUNT OF ACRE FEET OF WATER THAT IS AVAILABLE. OTHER NEAR-TERM PROJECTS INCLUDE EFFLUENT REUSE. WE'VE GOT ONE SLIDE BUT THERE'S AN AWFUL LOT GOING ON THERE. WE'VE BEEN IN DISCUSSION WITH MULTIPLE ENTITIES REGARDING QUICK AND EFFICIENT OPPORTUNITY TO USE OUR EFFLUENT WATER THAT IS PRODUCED EVERY DAY FROM OUR SIX WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANTS. THE KEY HERE IS TO UTILIZE THAT WATER TO OFFSET DEMAND. IF WE CAN OFFSET OR LOWER DEMAND, IT HELPS US IN THE LONG RUN. SO SOME OF THE WORK THAT'S BEING DONE IS WE'RE TARGETING 3 MILLION GALLONS OF REUSE FROM ALLISON. 3MILLION GALLONS A DAY OF REUSE FROM THE GREENWOOD TREATMENT PLANT. WE HAVE WORK BEING CONDUCTED BY ARDURRA. ARDURRA WILL BE DESIGNING A CONVEYANCE LINE TO TAKE EFFLUENT WATER FROM OSO, WHICH IS THE CITY'S LARGEST, TO THE GREENWOOD WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT, WHICH WOULD MAKE IT MORE AVAILABLE FOR THOSE LARGE USERS TO FURTHER OFFSET DEMAND. THE MASTER SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH ARDURRA, WE ARE PLANNING TO BRING THAT TO COUNCIL NEXT WEEK FOR CONSIDERATION. SO WE'LL GO INTO A LITTLE MORE DETAIL NEXT WEEK. ADDITIONALLY, I DO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT EFFLUENT WATER IS CURRENTLY BEING UTILIZED IN THE CITY. I'VE LISTED EACH OF THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANTS AND SOME OF THE ENTITIES THAT ARE CURRENTLY UTILIZING EFFLUENT WATER. THOSE INCLUDE THE OSO GOLF COURSE, CORPUS CHRISTI COUNTRY CLUB, TAMUCC HAS MADE SOME UPGRADES AND IMPROVEMENTS SO THEY CAN USE EFFLUENT. THE NAVAL AIR STATION USES IT AS WELL. WE'VE GOT THE NORTH PADRE ISLAND DEVELOPMENT, LOZANO GOLF COURSE, BALL FIELDS ACROSS FROM THE GREENWOOD WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT. THE VETERANS CEMETERY USES EFFLUENT FROM THE ALLISON PLANT. AGAIN, WE'RE WORKING WITH OTHER DEPARTMENTS WITHIN THE CITY INCLUDING THE PARKS DEPARTMENT, ON FUTURE BOND PROJECTS TO MAKE SURE THAT EFFLUENT IS INCLUDED IN THEIR PLANS FOR THE FUTURE. SPEAKING OF PARKS, ONE THING I DIDN'T BRING UP IS BILL WITT PARK. WE ARE WORKING WITH THEM FOR THE PARKS DEPARTMENT TO USE EFFLUENT AT BILL WITT PARK AS WELL. AND, WITH THAT, I STAND BY FOR ANY QUESTIONS. >> Mayor Guajardo: THANK YOU, NICK FOR THE PRESENTATION. >> Zanoni: I WAS GOING TO ADD ONE THING FOR THE COMMUNITY, MORE SO. BUT NICK MENTIONED WE DO HAVE CORPUS CHRISTI WATER STAFF THAT ARE GOING OUT TO FARMERS, RANCHERS, AND HOMESTEADS TO EVALUATE THEIR WELLS. SO THE NUMBER TO CALL, IF ANYBODY WANTS TO SET UP AN APPOINTMENT WITH US, THIS IS A CORPUS CHRISTI WATER STAFF PERSON THAT WILL ANSWER THE TELEPHONE. THE NUMBER IS 361-826-1600. SO 826-1600. THAT WILL BE SOMEBODY FROM OUR WATER RESOURCES PLANNING DIVISION, ESTEBAN'S GROUP, THAT WILL ANSWER THE PHONE. AS NICK SAID, WE HAVE ALREADY BEEN IN SEVERAL WELL LOCATIONS. THIS DEMONSTRATES OUR COMMITMENT TO HELPING THE PROPERTY OWNER AT NO COST GET A BASELINE OF THEIR WELL. TO INCLUDE THINGS LIKE WATER QUALITY, PRODUCTION AMOUNTS, GENERAL INSPECTION OF THE WELL. AND, AGAIN, FREE OF CHARGE. AND WE'VE SAID THIS TO THE COMMUNITY WHEN WE'VE BEEN OUT THERE. I WANT TO ANNOUNCE IT TODAY TO MAKE IT EVEN MORE REAL. 826-1600. ANYBODY CAN CALL THAT NUMBER, THAT HAS A WELL IN NUECES OR SAN PATRICIO COUNTY. THESE ARE WELLS THAT COULD BE NEAR TO OUR TWO PROJECTS, ONE IN NUECES COUNTY AND ONE IN SAN PATRICIO COUNTY. WITH THAT, MAYOR, WE'RE HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COUNCIL. >> Mayor Guajardo: THAT'S GREAT. I DON'T THINK WE KNEW ABOUT THAT. THAT'S GOOD NEWS. COUNCILMAN CANTU. HANG ON. >> Cantu: I JUST WANTED TO TELL YOU, PETER AND YOUR STAFF, THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU GUYS ARE DOING WITH THESE MEETINGS. I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT THE ONE IN ROBSTOWN, I DROVE IN. I WANTED TO DRIVE OUT BECAUSE IT WAS LIKE 300 CARS THERE. AND SO BUT I WAS THERE. YOU GUYS DID A REALLY GOOD JOB. ESPECIALLY NICK. YOU DID GREAT. HANDS DOWN TO YOU. SO, THANK YOU, GUYS FOR EVERYTHING YOU GUYS ARE DOING, OKAY? THANKS. >> Mayor Guajardo: YES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, NICK. THANKS FOR THE PRESENTATION. >> Zanoni: THANK YOU, MAYOR. THAT CONCLUDES. >> Mayor Guajardo: WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO OUR SECTION G, BOARD AND COMMITTEE APPOINTMENTS. ACTUALLY, BEFORE WE DO THAT, OR WHILE YOU'RE GETTING SET UP, NORMA, I'M GOING TO READ ABOUT PUBLIC COMMENT. I WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT TO ADDRESS THIS COUNCIL CHAMBERS IS A PLACE OF PUBLIC BUSINESS. A FORUM FOR CIVIC DISCUSSION, DECISION MAKING, AND SERVICE TO THE PEOPLE OF CORPUS CHRISTI. IT IS NOT A STAGE FOR PERSONAL ATTACKS DISRUPTIONS OR VULGARITY AND WE WILL NOT TOLERATE VIOLATIONS OF DECORUM. WE ARE HERE TO DO THE PEOPLE'S WORK SO LET'S PROCEED IN THAT SPIRIT. AND IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK ON A SPECIFIC AGENDA ITEM DURING ITS DISCUSSION, WHICH IS FORTHCOMING, YOU DON'T NEED TO SIGN UP BEFOREHAND. I WILL ASK FOR PUBLIC COMMENT WHEN THE COUNCIL CONSIDERS THE ITEM. AND AT THAT TIME YOU MAY COME UP AND SPEAK AT THE PODIUM. I'LL ASK CITY ATTORNEY MILES RISLEY TO REVIEW THE COUNCIL MEETING RULES OF DECORUM. [RULES OF DECORUM] >> Mayor Guajardo: PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND THE CITY IN WHICH YOU LIVE BEFORE BEGINNING YOUR COMMENTS. CITIZEN COMMENTS ARE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES WHILE NON-RESIDENT COMMENTS ARE LIMITED TO ONE MINUTE. AND A VISIBLE TIMER WILL HELP IN MANAGING THAT ALLOTTED TIME. IF YOU HAVE A PETITION OR ANY RELEVANT INFORMATION THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO GIVE US, PLEASE HAND IT TO HER BEFORE YOU SPEAK AND SHE WILL DISTRIBUTE THAT. NOW WE'LL GO BACK TO SECTION G, OUR BOARD COMMITTEE APPOINTMENTS. WE HAVE, I BELIEVE, FIVE. >> City Secretary: YES, MA'AM. THAT'S CORRECT. BEFORE WE BEGIN, WOULD YOU LIKE TO ASK FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON OUR BOARD AND COMMITTEE APPOINTMENTS? >> Mayor Guajardo: IS THERE ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE ANY COMMENT ON OUR BOARD AND COMMITTEE APPOINTMENTS WE'RE ABOUT TO HAVE? COME ON UP. >> HI. MY NAME IS JOSH SHELTON. I LIVE IN DISTRICT 2. MY WIFE AND I JUST BOUGHT A HOUSE. YOU MIGHT RECOGNIZE ME FROM BACK IN JANUARY. PUTTING MY NAME IN THE HAT AGAIN FOR THE LIBRARY BOARD POSITION. I DID GIVE A TALK AT ONE OF THE LIBRARIES BACK IN MARCH. IT WASN'T A HIGH TURNOUT, SO YOU CAN CHOOSE FOR YOURSELF WHETHER THAT'S EVIDENCE OF BAD MARKETING FOR THE LIBRARIES OR JUST A VERY UNPOPULAR SPEAKER. BUT I THINK THAT THERE'S STILL POTENTIAL FOR THE LIBRARY TO DO MORE OUTREACH IN THE COMMUNITY. THEY'RE DOING A GREAT JOB WITH MARGINALIZED PEOPLE. BUT I FEEL LIKE A LOT OF THE PEOPLE THAT WORK A 9:00 TO 5:00 MAY FEEL LIKE THEY'RE NOT PART OF THE LIBRARY SYSTEM AS MUCH. IF THEY SEE AN EVENT SCHEDULED DURING WORK HOURS OR GO AFTER WORK AND TEND TO FIND THE LIBRARIES CLOSED BECAUSE OF THE LIMITED HOURS. I THINK THE FUNDING IS A RELATED PROBLEM TO THAT SO WE CAN KEEP THEM OPEN FOR LONGER HOURS WOULD BE NICE. I THINK THE TWO ISSUES ARE INTERCONNECTED. IF A BIGGER CHUNK OF THE POPULATION WAS ENGAGED, TAKING PRIDE IN THEIR COMMUNITY LIBRARY, THEN WE WOULDN'T HAVE THIS MUCH OF A FUNDING PROBLEM. BUT THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. >> Mayor Guajardo: THANK YOU, MR. SHELTON. ANYONE ELSE? THIS IS ON BOARD APPOINTMENTS. >> MA MARY ELENA GARZA, DISTRICT 1. I AM APPLYING TO BE ON THE LIBRARY ADVISORY BOARD. I'M GOING TO CUT TO THE CHASE. WHY SHOULD I GET THAT PRIVILEGE TO SIT IN ONE OF THOSE SEATS? I'M ONE OF THE ONLY PEOPLE, I BELIEVE, THAT'S ON THAT APPOINTMENT LIST THAT HAS ATTENDED ALMOST EVERY SINGLE MEETING FOR THE PAST TWO YEARS. I'M READY TO GO. I'M READY TO HIT THE GROUND DAY ONE. IF I CAN GET THAT PRIVILEGE TO SIT IN THAT SEAT, I'M READY TO MOBILIZE WITH THE OTHER PEOPLE THAT ARE ON THE LIBRARY ADVISORY BOARD. I ALREADY KNOW WHO THEY ARE. I HAVE BEEN KEEPING UP WITH THE BUDGET WORKSHOPS. I PARTICIPATE IN ALL THE BUDGET WORKSHOPS, HAVE BEEN IN THE PAST TWO YEARS. I HAVE BEEN PAYING ATTENTION TO ALL THE CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS FOR THE PAST THREE YEARS. NOT ONLY WITH THAT, BUT I'M ALSO A WVA MEMBER, PARTICIPATE WITH THEM. I'M A JUNIOR LEAGUE OF THE CORPUS CHRISTI MEMBER AS WELL AND ALSO PART OF THE LITERACY COMMITTEE AND HAPPY AND EXCITED FOR EVERYONE TO COME OUT TO CHRISTMAS TREE FOREST THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE HAVING UPCOMING. I REALLY AM PASSIONATE ABOUT OUR LITERACY AND OUR CITY. LITERACY, HAVING HIGHER LITERACY MEANS LOWER POVERTY AND THAT'S ONE OF THE BIG DRIVING FACTORS THAT I REALLY WOULD LOVE TO SERVE ON THAT BOARD AS WELL. SO, PLEASE CONSIDER ME FOR THAT POSITION. I KNOW THAT WE'VE GOT A LONG MEETING AHEAD OF US AND I'M GOING TO BE SITTING TIGHT WITH YOU GUYS ALONG THE WHOLE WAY. JUST BECAUSE I SIT ON A BOARD DOESN'T MEAN I'M GOING TO DISAPPEAR FROM THE AUDIENCE. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE CONSIDERATION. >> Mayor Guajardo: THANK YOU, MS. GARZA. YES MA'AM. >> I'M JASMINE EVANS IN DISTRICT 5. I WAS HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE LIBRARY BOARD AND EXPRESSING MY SUPPORT OF MARY ELENA GARZA FOR POTENTIALLY SERVING ON THE BOARD. I HAVE MISSED A COUPLE OF LIBRARY BOARD MEETINGS BUT I TRY TO BE THERE EVERY SINGLE MEETING, AS MUCH AS I CAN. I WILL SAY THAT I HAVE ALWAYS SEEN HER THERE. I HAVE ALWAYS SEEN HER IN OUR COMMUNITY. AND ACTUALLY SHOWING UP FOR OUR CORPUS CHRISTI COMMUNITY. I'M IN SUPPORT OF BOARD MEMBERS WHO NOT ONLY HAVE THE DRIVE TO SUPPORT A COMMUNITY BUT ALSO HAVE THE CAPABILITIES AND THE QUALIFICATIONS TO FOLLOW THROUGH. HAVING LOOKED AT OUR PAST BOARD AND THE GOALS THAT THEY HAVE SET AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THEY SAY THEY HAVE ACCOMPLISHED, I FEEL LIKE LOOKING INTO THE NEWS AND SEEING SOME OF THE NOT SO GREAT THINGS ABOUT OUR LIBRARY AND OUR BOARD. IT'S BEEN A SHAME SEEING THAT BECAUSE THERE'S SO MANY AMAZING SERVICES AND MATERIALS THAT OUR LIBRARY HAS TO OFFER FOR OUR COMMUNITY. AND IT WOULD BE AMAZING TO SEE MORE OF THAT BEING PROMOTED, BEING SHARED AND DISCUSSED HERE IN CORPUS. I WOULD LOVE TO SEE REPRESENTATIVES THAT ENHANCE AND WELCOME ALL COMMUNITY MEMBERS IN THE LIBRARY AND ALSO HAVE OUR LITERACY FINANCIAL AND EDUCATIONAL GOALS IN MIND. SO, THANK YOU. >> Mayor Guajardo: THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? WE'LL MOVE ON WITH THE BOARDS AND APPOINTMENTS. >> City Secretary: THE FIRST BOARD IS THE ETHICS COMMISSION. THERE'S ONE VACANCY. AND MEMBERS ARE APPOINTED BY TWO-THIRDS VOTE OF THE FULL COUNCIL, WHICH IS SIX VOTES. >> Mayor Guajardo: WE HAVE MATT MOORE. ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS? OKAY. WE HAVE MATT MOORE. >> Barrera: I MOVE TO APPOINT. >> Mayor Guajardo: WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. >> [CHORUS OF AYES] >> Mayor Guajardo: ANY OPPOSED SAY NO. THE MOTION CARRIES. >> City Secretary: NEXT WE HAVE THE LANDMARK COMMISSION. THERE ARE TWO VACANCIES. AND THEY REPRESENT THE PREFERRED BUT NOT REQUIRED CATEGORY OF AT-LARGE. WALTER MUM AND ELIZABETH WRIGGLE ARE SEEKING REAPPOINTMENT. >> Barrera: I MOVE TO REAPPOINT. >> SECOND. >> Mayor Guajardo: ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. >> [CHORUS OF AYES] >> Mayor Guajardo: ANY OPPOSED SAY NO. THE MOTION CARRIES. >> City Secretary: NEXT IS THE LIBRARY BOARD. THERE ARE FIVE VACANCIES. PLEASE NOTE THAT JOAN CARILLO WITHDREW HER NAME FROM CONSIDERATION YESTERDAY. ONLY TWO BOARD MEMBERS ARE SEEKING REAPPOINTMENT AND THEIR ATTENDANCE RATES ARE IN YOUR PACKETS. >> Mayor Guajardo: WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. >> [CHORUS OF AYES] >> Mayor Guajardo: ANY OPPOSED SAY NO . THE MOTION CARRIES TO REAPPOINT. >> City Secretary: THAT LEAVES US THREE VACANCIES. >> Mayor Guajardo: WE'LL OPEN NOMINATIONS. I'M SORRY? JOSH SHELTON? MARY ELENA GARZA. CAROLYN KUBALA. >> City Secretary: SLOW DOWN. NORMA'S WRITING THIS DOWN. >> Mayor Guajardo: JOSH SHELTON, MARY ELENA GARZA. CAROLYN KUBALA. WHO WAS YOURS? >> Mayor Guajardo: SCOTT. >> Scott: POOJA. >> Mayor Guajardo: ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS? WE'LL CLOSE NOMINATIONS. WE'RE PICKING TWO? >> City Secretary: THREE. >> Mayor Guajardo: THREE OUT OF THESE. >> [OFF MIC] >> City Secretary: COUNCIL MEMBERS, DOUBLE CHECK. IS THAT EVERYBODY? SHELTON GARZA KOVULA. >> Mayor Guajardo: I WILL START WITH COUNCILWOMAN VAUGHN. >> Vaughn: [OFF MIC] >> City Secretary: GARCIA? AND YOU HAVE ONE MORE, MA'AM. >> Mayor Guajardo: WE CAN COME BACK. COUNCILMAN HERNANDEZ. >> Hernandez: [OFF MIC]. >> Mayor Guajardo: BENDING NAVAL. I DON'T THINK THAT'S PRONOUNCED RIGHT. POOJA. >> Barrera: GARZA, COOVER, AND POOJA. >> Mayor Guajardo: MARY ELENA GARZA, COOVER, AND POOJA. >> Roy: [OFF MIC] >> [OFF MIC] >> [OFF MIC] >> Mayor Guajardo: KOIVULA? >> City Secretary: IT'S POOJA, GARZA, AND COOVER. >> Mayor Guajardo: THANK YOU. >> City Secretary: NEXT WE HAVE THE REINVESTMENT ZONE NO. 2. THAT'S THE ISLAND BOARD. THERE ARE EIGHT VACANCIES AND THEY REPRESENT THE FOLLOWING CATEGORIES: SEVEN CITY APPOINTEES AND ONE NUECES COUNTY APPOINTEE. SO MAYOR PAULETTE GUAJARDO AND BARRERA, CANTU, ROY, AND SCOTT ARE ELIGIBLE FOR REAPPOINTMENT AND NUECES COUNTY IS RECOMMENDING THE REAPPOINTMENT OF CHESNEY. >> Mayor Guajardo: ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. >> [CHORUS OF AYES] >> Mayor Guajardo: ANY OPPOSED SAY NO. THE MOTION CARRIES . >> City Secretary: ADDITIONALLY, THE CITY COUNCIL APPOINTS THE CHAIRMAN OF THE BOARD FOR A TERM BEGINNING JANUARY 1st OF 2026. AND THE CURRENT CHAIR IS KAYLYNN PAXSON. >> Barrera: I MOVE TO REAPPOINT. >> Mayor Guajardo: ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. >> [CHORUS OF AYES] >> Mayor Guajardo: ANY OPPOSED SAY NO. THE MOTION CARRIES. >> City Secretary: SO THE LAST BOARD IS THE REINVESTMENT ZONE NO. 4 AND THAT'S THE NORTH BEACH BOARD. THERE ARE FIVE VACANCIES REPRESENTING THE FOLLOWING CATEGORIES: THREE CITY APPOINTEES, ONE AQUARIUM DIRECTOR AND ONE LEXINGTON. MAYOR GUAJARDO AND SCOTT ARE ELIGIBLE. >> MOVE TO REAPPOINT. >> Mayor Guajardo: WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. >> [CHORUS OF AYES] >> Mayor Guajardo: ANY OPPOSED SAY NO. THE MOTION CARRIES . >> City Secretary: AND THEN THE CITY COUNCIL ALSO APPOINTS THE CHAIRMAN OF THIS BOARD FOR A TERM BEGINNING JANUARY 1st, 2026. THE CURRENT CHAIR, I BELIEVE IS COUNCILMEMBER VAUGHN. >> MOVE TO REAPPOINT. >> SECOND. >> Mayor Guajardo: WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. >> [CHORUS OF AYES] >> Mayor Guajardo: ANY OPPOSED SAY NO. THE MOTION CARRIES. >> City Secretary: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. >> Mayor Guajardo: WE'LL MOVE ON TO SECTION I, OUR CONSENT AGENDA. ITEMS 3 THROUGH 14. DO WE HAVE ANY REQUESTS FROM COUNCIL TO PULL ANY ITEMS FOR DISCUSSION 3 THROUGH 14? ITEM NO. 8 AND 9. ANYTHING ELSE? 13? DO WE HAVE ANY REQUESTS FROM THE PUBLIC TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT ON ANY ITEMS 3 THROUGH 14? THERE BEING NONE, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ITEMS 8, 9, AND 13. >> Barrera: I MOVE FOR APPROVAL. >> Mayor Guajardo: WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. >> [CHORUS OF AYES] >> Mayor Guajardo: ANY OPPOSED SAY NO. THE MOTION CARRIES. ITEMS 8 AND 9 ARE A MOTION AUTHORIZING AND PROFESSIONAL SERVICES CONTRACT WITH BRW ARCHITECTS, COLLEGE STATION, TO PROVIDE DESIGN AND BID PHASE SERVICES FOR THE NEW FIRE STATION NO. 9 ON LEOPARD AS WELL AS FIRE STATION NO. 11. >> Paxson: I KNOW WE HAVE DELIBERATED ABOUT THE DESIGN WORK WE HAVE BEEN DOING ON ALL OF OUR RECENT FIRE STATIONS. I WAS JUST CURIOUS IF WE WERE AT A POINT WHERE WE WERE ABLE TO UTILIZE SOME OF THOSE THOUGHTS AT THIS POINT AND INCORPORATE -- I DON'T WANT TO SAY RECYCLE, BUT TRANSLATE SOME OF THOSE DESIGN ELEMENTS THROUGH FOR COST SAVINGS. >> Edmonds: LET ME START AND I'LL TURN IT OVER TO THE CHIEF. WE ARE SEEING THOSE FEES KIND OF COME DOWN A LITTLE BIT AS -- THIS IS THE SAME FIRM THAT DID FIRE STATION 3. AND THEN THEY DID THE LAST TWO THAT WE JUST AWARDED FOR CONSTRUCTION. THESE ARE THE NEXT TWO. SO WE ARE SEEING THAT THEY ARE GETTING SOME ECONOMIES OF SCALE FROM WORKING WITH US. >> YES, MA'AM. BRANDON WADE, FIRE CHIEF. I THINK NOW THAT WE'VE WORKED WITH THEM FOR A WHILE, YOU GET RID OF SOME OF THE PROCESS OF TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THE DEPARTMENT NEEDS AND HOW DO WE OPERATE. ABSOLUTELY, THAT'S WHERE WE CAN START KICKING OFF THIS IS WHAT WE WANT IN OUR FIRE STATIONS. THIS IS HOW WE'RE LOOKING TO DESIGN THEM AND WE DON'T HAVE TO START THAT OVER. AS WE MENTIONED BEFORE A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, THERE ARE THINGS WITH LIMITATIONS SUCH AS LAND AND WE HAVE TO FIT IT OR WHERE UTILITIES RUN WHERE WE MAY NEED TO MAKE SOME ADJUSTMENTS. GENERALLY, WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO TAKE SOME OF THE SIMILAR PLATFORM OR DESIGN AND IMPLEMENT THOSE INTO SOME OF THE STATIONS THAT WE HAVE. >> Paxson: SO WE'RE ABLE TO DO THAT WITH THESE? >> I THINK WE'LL BE CLOSE. WE HAVE THE LAND PURCHASED. AS WE GO AND SIT WITH THE INITIAL MEETINGS, IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE JUST STARTING ALL OVER, YOU KNOW, THE DRAWING BOARD. SO I DO BELIEVE WE'LL BE ABLE TO USE SOME OF THOSE SUCH AS HOW DO WE SET UP THE LIVING SPACE, THE KITCHEN AREA, THE OFFICES. SO I CAN'T SAY IT'S GOING TO BE 100% WITH IT BUT THERE WILL BE SIMILARITIES THAT WE CAN USE FROM THE PREVIOUS DESIGNS TO BE PUT INTO THESE. >> Paxson: I APPRECIATE THAT. AND I DO UNDERSTAND THAT THESE DESIGNS DO HAVE TO BE PRETTY SITE-SPECIFIC. EVERY LOCATION HAS ITS OWN VERY UNIQUE ELEMENTS. >> RIGHT. >> Paxson: BUT I AM STILL VERY INTERESTED TO SEE EVERYWHERE THAT WE CAN BASICALLY TAKE A DESIGN AND TAILOR THAT TO THE PROPERTY SO WE'RE MAXIMIZING ON THOSE SAVINGS. YOU SAID WITH THIS ROUND WE'RE BEGINNING TO SEE THOSE SAVINGS? >> YEAH. SO FOR STATION 8 AND STATION 10, WE WERE ABLE, FOR THE DESIGN PHASE, CLOSE TO LIKE $10 A SQUARE FOOT OF SAVINGS ON THE DESIGN. BECAUSE WE USED A SIMILAR DESIGN FOR STATION 8 AS WE DID FOR STATION 10. WE SAW THE SECOND DESIGN BE CHEAPER WITH IT BECAUSE WE UTILIZED A SIMILAR. STATION 9 MAY HAVE SOME DIFFERENT DESIGN WITH IT BECAUSE WE POSSIBLY WILL BE MOVING OUR HAZARDOUS MATERIALS TEAM OVER THERE BECAUSE THEY NEED MORE ROOM FOR THE EQUIPMENT AND THE CACHE OF STUFF THEY HAVE. IT MAY NEED SOME DIFFERENT DESIGN FOR THE STORAGE OF THAT ADDITIONAL EQUIPMENT. BUT WE'RE GOING TO LOOK TO SEE HOW CAN WE PUT SIMILAR DESIGNS FROM STATION 8 AND 10, WILL IT FIT FOR THE STATION 11 PLOT OR STATION 9. WORKING WITH THIS COMPANY, THEY ALREADY KNOW WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR OUT OF A FIREHOUSE. I THINK WE'RE ABLE TO GRAB SOME OF THOSE SIMILARITIES OF PREVIOUS DESIGNS. >> Paxson: THANK YOU FOR THAT INFORMATION AND I'LL CONTINUE TO REST MY HOPES AND CONFIDENCE ON YOU LOOKING FOR THOSE SAVINGS AND BEING SUCH A GOOD STEWART WITH THOSE DEPARTMENTS. THANK YOU FOR THAT INFORMATION. WITH THAT, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE BOTH ITEMS WITH 8 AND 9. >> Mayor Guajardo: COUNCILMAN BARRERA. >> Barrera: SO 8 AND 9, HAVE ALL OUR FIRE STATIONS BEEN DESIGNED BY BRW? >> STATION 3, 8, AND 10 HAVE BEEN AS WELL. >> Barrera: DOES THAT -- I MEAN, HERE'S MY THING. I'M A FIRM BELIEVER IN LOCAL AND I THINK ALL THREE FIRMS ARE HIGHLY QUALIFIED. AND I THINK ALL THE DESIGN IS PUBLIC INFORMATION. SO WE COULD INCORPORATE THAT INTO -- I MEAN, BRW, DO THEY HAVE A LOCAL OFFICE? >> Edmonds: THEY'RE NOT A LOCAL FIRM. >> Barrera: THEY DON'T HAVE A LOCAL OFFICE? >> Edmonds: I DON'T THINK THEY DO. >> Barrera: I KNOW WHEN PETER ENCOURAGED PAPE-DAWSON TO COME TO CORPUS CHRISTI, THEY'VE GOT AN OFFICE NOW. I SAY TO THEM ALL THE TIME, AD NAUSEAM, I'M SURE. IS THAT I THINK THEY'VE GOT 20 ENGINEERS IN THEIR OFFICE NOW. HAFF ONLY HAD TWO PEOPLE AND NOW THEY PROBABLY HAVE 20 PEOPLE IN THEIR OFFICE. ALL THINGS BEING THE SAME, I THINK THAT'S PART OF THE THING. WE CAN'T MAKE DECISIONS BASED ON LOCAL BUT THE COUNCIL HAS THE ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO MAKE A DECISION OF WHO IT IS. WE DON'T HAVE TO GO WITH THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION. >> Edmonds: ABSOLUTELY NOT. AND THE NUMBER TWO FIRM WAS TURNER RAMIREZ ON THIS. THE FEELING WHEN WE FIRST SELECTED BRW WAS THEY SPECIALIZED IN THIS. THEY WERE DOING FIRE STATIONS ALL AROUND THE STATE. THE LAST FIRE STATION WE HAD DONE HERE LOCALLY WAS FIRE STATION 18. AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT WASN'T SUPER HAPPY WITH THE OUTCOME ON THAT. >> Barrera: WHO WAS THAT ARCHITECT? >> Edmonds: ONASSIS. THAT WAS THE ONLY FIRST THAT HAS RECENT EXPERIENCE. >> Barrera: WHEN DID WE DO FIRE STATION 18? >> Edmonds: I WANT TO SAY THAT WAS ABOUT 7, 8 YEARS AGO . 2017. >> Barrera: 2017. AND I GUESS WE'VE LEARNED FROM THAT TO BE ABLE TO SHARE, IF WE DECIDE TO GO WITH A LOCAL ARCHITECT. I'M GOING TO LET THE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS SPEAK BUT, YOU KNOW, I'M A BIG -- IT'S BEEN VERY CLEAR THAT I'M A BIG LOCAL PERSON. I MEAN, I THINK HERE, WHEN WE DID DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, THERE WAS A SAN ANTONIO FIRM THAT SUBMITTED AND WE GAVE IT TO A LOCAL FIRM. THE COUNCIL RETURNED IT AND GAVE IT TO A LOCAL FIRM. IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WOULD PROHIBIT YOU -- I UNDERSTAND THE VALUE, ONCE AGAIN, FOR A HIGHLY REPUTABLE FIRM. HAS DONE SEVERAL SCHOOLS AND OUR POLICE ACADEMY, WHICH WE ARE VERY PROUD OF. I JUST -- SOMETIMES IT SEEMS WHEN WE LOOK AT THIS, HOW OBJECTIVE IS IT WHEN THEY PUT TOGETHER THE PROPOSAL? YOU KNOW, I'M LOOKING HERE AT PAST PERFORMANCE. 1.8 VERSUS 2 POINTS. THAT'S THE THING. THEY'RE ALWAYS SPITTING DISTANCE FROM EACH OTHER. >> Edmonds: YOU'RE NOT BOUND BY OUR RECOMMENDATION. THIS IS OUR RECOMMENDATION. THIS IS BASED ON THE SCORING THAT WAS DONE BY AN EVALUATION COMMITTEE. AS YOU MENTIONED, LIKE WITH THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, COUNCIL CAN DIRECT US. >> Zanoni: JEFF, WE KNOW THAT BUT CAN YOU TALK TO US ABOUT WHAT CRITERIA PROFESSIONALLY YOU USED? I THINK THEY HAD TO HAVE HAD A NUMBER OF FIRE STATIONS DESIGNED TO BE A QUALIFIED BIDDER. >> Barrera: IT SAYS THEY'RE QUALIFIED UNDER MINIMUM QUALIFICATIONS AND THEY ALL PASSED. >> Zanoni: IF JEFF COULD SAY WHAT IS THE CRITERIA YOU USED TO MAKE THIS RECOMMENDATION TODAY? >> Edmonds: SO THE CRITERIA THAT THE COMMITTEE WAS LOOKING AT WAS RELEVANT EXPERIENCE. AND THEY FELT STRONGLY THAT HAVING FIRE STATION EXPERIENCE WAS AN IMPORTANT FACTOR. SO WHEN THEY WERE SELECTED FOR THE FIRST ONE FOR FIRE STATION 3, THAT WAS THE FIRST ONE HERE BUT THEY HAD DONE A LOT OF FIRE STATIONS AROUND THE STATE. AND THAT HEAVILY SWAYED THE COMMITTEE. NOW THEY'VE DONE THREE ADDITIONAL STATIONS THAT ARE HERE LOCALLY. SO THEIR LOCAL EXPERIENCE IS WAY MORE THAN IT WAS WHEN THEY GOT FIRE STATION 3. >> Zanoni: DO WE KNOW IF LEVI OR T TURNER RAMIREZ HAS DESIGNED A FIRE STATION? >> Edmonds: NOT TO MY KNOWLEDGE. >> Barrera: DID THEY DO A POLICE ACADEMY? >> Zanoni: IT'S NOT A FIRE -- >> Barrera: I'M ASKING A QUESTION. HAD THEY EVER DONE A POLICE ACADEMY BEFORE? >> Edmonds: NOT TO MY KNOWLEDGE. >> Barrera: OKAY. SO IT'S NOT UNPRECEDENTED FOR US TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE A -- FOR US. ONCE AGAIN, THAT'S PUBLIC INFORMATION. THEY'RE HIGHLY REPUTABLE. BUT I'M JUST GIVING YOU MY OPINION. I RESPECT YOURS. THANK YOU. >> Zanoni: THANK YOU. >> Mayor Guajardo: COUNCILWOMAN CAMPOS. >> Campos: THANK YOU, MAYOR. I GUESS I'M GOING TO BE MAKING SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, AS OUR CITY MANAGER JUST REMINDED US THAT WE ARE IN A DROUGHT. WE'VE BEEN IN A DROUGHT FOR AT LEAST FOUR YEARS. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE START LOOKING AT OUR BUILDINGS AND LOOKING AT POSSIBLY RAIN CAPTURE, POSSIBLY SOLAR. I KNOW THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE THE ENVIRONMENTAL RESILIENCE DEPARTMENT THAT WE WANTED, BUT WE CAN STILL LOOK AT THE DESIGNS. AND FROM NOW ON LET'S KEEP THAT IN MIND THAT WHATEVER BUILDING, NEW BUILDING THAT WE'RE DOING, THAT WE INCORPORATE SOME OF THESE, YOU KNOW, BETTER THINGS FOR OUR AREA. AT LEAST KNOW THAT WE'RE DOING OUR BEST AND WE'RE SETTING AN EXAMPLE. THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO SAY. THANK YOU. >> Edmonds: NOTED. >> Mayor Guajardo: ARE WE DOING THAT WITH THIS DESIGN? >> Campos: ARE WE SHARING? >> Edmonds: WELL, WE'RE JUST STARTING THE DESIGN PROCESS. WE CAN ABSOLUTELY BE SURE THAT IS COMMUNICATED TO THE ARCHITECT. WE WANT TO HAVE DROUGHT-TOLERANT LANDSCAPING AND INCORPORATE THOSE FEATURES TO THE EXTENT WE CAN. >> Campos: WELL, I'VE SEEN IT AT GIL'S AND OTHER HOMES BUT I HAVE NOT SEEN IT IN CITY BUILDINGS WHERE WE'RE ACTIVELY DOING RAIN CAPTURE. SO THAT WOULD BE A GREAT EXAMPLE. >> I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE TALK ABOUT WHO'S DESIGNING IT AND HOW THEY DO IT. AND BRW HAS EXPERIENCE ALL OVER THE STATE AND OTHER PLACES IN WHICH THERE'S OTHER COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE ASKED FOR THOSE SAME TYPE OF THINGS. AND THEY KNOW HOW TO INCORPORATE IT INTO A FACILITY WITHOUT COMPROMISING THE NEEDS AND THE OPERATIONAL STUFF. LIKE IF YOU JUST WENT COMPLETELY OFF SOLAR AND DIDN'T HAVE THINGS BACKED UP. THIS COMPANY, WORKING ALL OVER THIS STATE, HAS THE ABILITY TO GIVE US EXAMPLES OF HOW THEY'VE PUT IT AND HOW IT'S WORKED IN OTHER FIREHOUSES. >> Campos: EVEN WHERE THE EMPLOYEES PARK THEIR CARS, YOU KNOW, IF THEY'RE GOING TO BE HAVING A COVER, THAT COVER COULD HAVE SOLAR PANELS OR SOMETHING. YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE START TO INCORPORATE THAT. THANK YOU. >> Mayor Guajardo: THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN. COUNCILMAN SCOTT. >> Scott: SO, I HAVE A WORKING THEORY, AND THAT'S TO KEEP ALL PUBLIC SAFETY PEOPLE HAPPY WITH ME. AND I'M NOT FEELING WELL TODAY SO I'M ESPECIALLY SENSITIVE TO YOU SIR. I WANT TO KEEP YOU VERY HAPPY. I HAVE A LOT OF HEARTBURN HIRING AN OUT OF TOWN ARCHITECTURE FIRM. I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING THAT THEY DO IT AND THEY DO IT WELL. WE'VE HAD THESE CONVERSATIONS FOR A LONG TIME. NOT YOU, COUNCIL MEMBERS. WE WANT TO BRING UP LOCALS AND TEACH THEM THE TRADE SO THEY CAN GO I. >> Scott: AUSTIN AND GET THOSE PROJECTS. I RECOGNIZE THAT OUR ARCHITECTS GO TO KINS VIL AND THE SAME THING IS SAID IN KINGSVILLE, THEY DON'T HAVE EXPERIENCE AND THE GUYS IN CORPUS DO. I JUST HAVE TO TELL YOU, I DO HAVE HEARTBURN HIRING THIS COMPANY AND I SUSPECT WE'RE GOING TO DO A BUNCH OF THESE, WE ALREADY HAVE, WE'RE GOING TO DO A BUNCH MORE IN THE LAST 10 YEARS. I WOULD LIKE TO ENCOURAGE WAYS TO BRING ON LOCAL ARCHITECTS TO PARTICIPATE IN THE EXPENDITURE OF, YOU KNOW, CORPUS CHRISTIANS TAXPAYERS' FUNDS. SO JUST FYI. I KNOW WHY YOU'RE DOING IT AND I RESPECT THAT, I JUST WANTED YOU TO KNOW I HAVE SOME HEARTBURN WITH IT. >> Chief Wade: YES, SIR. COUNCILMA N HERNANDEZ? >> Hernandez: THANK YOU. JEFF, REMIND ME ON THIS, YOU CAN'T DO A LOCAL PREFERENCE ON PROFESSIONAL SERVICES, CORRECT? >> Edmo BY THE STATE STATUTE. >> Edmonds: NO, BUT WHAT WE DO -- AND THIS IS MORE WITH THE ENGINEERS THAN THE ARCHITECTS. I SAT DOWN WITH THEM ABOUT 10 YEARS AGO WHEN LEGAL FIRST CAME UP WITH A RULING THAT THE LOCAL PREFERENCE POLICY WE HAD WAS NOT LEGAL. AND I WAS TASKED BY THEN CITY MANAGER TO KIND OF WORK OUT A WAY TO ACHIEVE THAT OUTCOME WITHOUT GETTING OUTSIDE OF THE CONFINES OF THE LAW. AND WHAT WE CAME UP WITH IS BY EVALUATING LOCAL EXPERIENCE, AND BOTH WITH THE PERSONNEL THAT'S PROPOSED AND ALSO OF THE FIRM, AND GRANTING POINTS FOR THAT. >> Hernandez: OKAY. BECAUSE I REMEMBER -- WE WENT THROUGH THIS, BECAUSE WE CREATED A PURCHASING POLICY WITH LOCAL PREFERENCE, BUT IT COULD NOT BE APPLIED TO PROFESSIONAL SERVICES BECAUSE THERE WERE SOME STATE RESTRICTIONS ON THAT. >> Edmonds: CORRECT. >> Hernandez: SO I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF THROW THAT OUT THERE. ALSO I WANT TO MAKE SURE -- I DID LOOK UP BRW ON THEIR WEBSITE, AND, YOU KNOW, IF THEY GO -- THEY HAVE THE SPECIFIC FIRE STATION PAGE AND THERE'S, LIKE, 50 PICTURES OF FIRE STATIONS THEY DO. SO THEY SPECIALIZE IN FIRE STATIONS, SO IT'S VERY OBVIOUS. I THINK WE DID THIS WITH THE SWIMMING POOLS, RIGHT, WITH KENLY HORN, THEY SPECIALIZE IN AQUATIC CENTERS. SO I THINK IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT EXPERIENCE IN TERMS OF HOW WE DO THIS, AND I UNDERSTAND THE SELECTION PROCESS IS A LITTLE SUBJECTIVE, BUT THIS IS OVERWHELMINGLY OBVIOUS THAT THESE GUYS SPECIALIZE IN BUILDING FIRE STATIONS, SO I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE SELECTION. THANK YOU. >> Mayor Guajardo: THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN. COUNCILWOMAN VAUGHN? >> Vaughn: WELL, I AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN HERNANDEZ ON THIS. THEY OBVIOUSLY HAD THE EXPERIENCE, AND YOU WANT THE BEST WHEN THEY'RE DOING I AND IF THEY'VE DONE THAT MANY FIRE STATIONS THEY OUGHT TO BE ABLE TO KNOW WHERE THEY CAN CUT CORNERS AND SAVE MONEY AS WELL TOO. THE OTHER CONCERN OF MINE IS PHILLIP RAMIREZ IS UNDER INVESTIGATION FOR ALTERING A DOCUMENT. I DON'T THINK HE SHOULD BE ON ANYTHING UNTIL THAT'S RESOLVED. I'M NOT SAYING HE'S GUILTY OR NOT. I'M SURE A BUNCH OF COUNCILMEMBERS GOT MONEY FROM HIM AS WELL. I FULLY SUPPORT WHAT YOU'VE DONE. IF YOU'RE GOING TO GO OUT AND DO THIS, WE SHOULD -- WHOEVER YOU RECOMMEND, WE SHOULD HONOR THAT. THANK YOU. >> Mayor Guajardo: OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND -- OR ACTUALLY, LET ME MAKE SURE WE DON'T HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT. WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEMS 8 OR 9 -- OR 8 AND 9? >> RACHEL CABALLERO, D1. THE CONTRADICTIONS ARE COMICAL BACK HERE. WE SUPPORT LOCAL BUT WE CAN GO ON RADIO STATIONS AND NOT REALLY CARE ABOUT THIS COMMUNITY AND TRY TO, YOU KNOW, PROTECT A CEO THAT MAKES $110 MILLION, IT'S IMPORTANT, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE IT'S ECONOMICS. WE SHOULD NOT BE DOING ANY BUSINESS WITH ANY CONTRACTORS THAT ARE CURRENTLY UNDER INVESTIGATION FOR FORGING, MODIFYING AND ALTERING DOCUMENTS TO RECEIVE THE $2 MILLION TAX INCENTIVE, PERIOD, END OF STORY. SO TO DEFEND THEM AND SAY, OH, ALL OF A SUDDEN, NOW WE NEED TO GO LOCAL, OH, NOW WE SUPPORT LOCAL BUSINESSES. SORRY, BOISTEROUS, GOT IT. THIS IS RIDICULOUS, WE NEED TO BE BETTER STEWARDS OF THIS COMMUNITY, THIS IS GETTING EXHAUSTING AND THE WRITING IS ON THE WALL FOR QUITE A FEW OF YOU. THANK YOU. >> Mayor Guajardo: ANYONE ELSE? SUZIE SALDAÑA, CORPUS CHRISTI. LET ME TELL YOU, I UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERN ABOUT SOMEONE THAT YOU HAVE UNDER INVESTIGATION, BUT YOU KNOW WHAT'S FAIR IS FAIR. UNLESS A PERSON HAS BEEN FOUND GUILTY, THEN YOU EXCLUDE THEM FOR SOMETHING, BUT YOU HAVE TO FIND THEM GUILTY FIRST BEFORE YOU DO ANY OF THIS KIND OF THINGS, BARRING THEM AND KEEPING THEM AWAY FROM THINGS. I DON'T CARE WHO YOU HIRE IN THIS INSTANCE, I DO FAVOR LOCAL PEOPLE BECAUSE THAT'S THE ONLY WAY TO FILL UP OUR COMMUNITY. LOCAL PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE. AS TO THE OTHER, IT'S A MATTER OF FAIRNESS AND A MATTER OF KNOWING WHO'S GUILTY OR NOT, SO UNLESS YOU'VE ALREADY JUDGED THEM GUILTY, YOU WAIT FOR A COURT OF LAW TO DO IT. >> Mayor Guajardo: THANK YOU, MS. SALDAÑA. ANYONE ELSE, ITEMS 8 OR 9? OKAY. WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT -- OH, COUNCILMAN BARRERA? >> Barrera: YEAH, I JUST WANT TO -- I WAS JUST GOING TO -- I DON'T WANT TO VOTE NO AGAINST THE FIRE STATION BUT I AT LEAST WANT TO GO AHEAD -- AND IF IT FAILS, IT FAILS. I'D LIKE TO AMEND TO BE ABLE TO AWARD THE CONTRACT TO TURNER RAMIREZ. IS THERE -- SO I'D LIKE TO MOVE TO AMEND TO AWARD THE CONTRACT TO TURNER RAMIREZ. >> Mayor Guajardo: OKAY. WE HAVE AN AMENDMENT. >> Barrera: AND IF IT FAILS FOR LACK OF A SECOND, THEN I'M OKAY. >> Mayor Guajardo: OKAY. LET ME GET MR. SCOTT TO MAKE HIS COMMENT. >> Scott: SO I THINK THE WORD GETS OUT, RIGHT, WHEN YOU HIRE THE SAME FIRM OUT OF COLLEGE STATION AND WE'RE GOING TO DO -- LET'S JUST SAY WE'RE GOING TO DO 10 OF THEM, AND WE HIRE THEM THREE TIMES IN A ROW, I THINK WHAT HAPPENS IS THE PEOPLE THAT COMPETE FOR THAT BUSINESS, SHRINK. WHY TRY? I GUESS IT TAKES TIME AND MONEY TO THE PARTICIPATE IN THE RFQ PROCESS, SO THAT'S THE MESSAGE I WANT TO GET OUT, HEY, WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING AND IF THERE ARE PEOPLE LOCAL THAT THINK THEY CAN DO IT OR THERE'S A WAY TO NETWORK WITH THIS GROUP OUT OF -- OR MAYBE THEY NETWORK WITH A GROUP OUT OF AUSTIN THAT DOES THE OTHER 500 OF THEM IN AUSTIN, THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR. I'M SENSITIVE TO THE FACT THAT IF YOU HIRE THE SAME SAN ANTONIO FIRM, YOU KNOW, FIVE TIMES IN A ROW BECAUSE THEY DO THAT, THEN I THINK YOU RUN OFF COMPETITION. THAT'S MY MESSAGE. I'M OKAY WITH HIRING THESE GUYS, I JUST WANT TO TRY TO GET THE MESSAGE OUT THAT WE WANT -- WE WANT OTHERS TO -- AND WE WANT LOCALS TO PARTICIPATE WHEN THEY CAN. >> Mayor Guajardo: THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN. >> City Secretary: OKAY. IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT MOTION, TO MR. BARRERA'S MOTION? >> Mayor Guajardo: OKAY. THE MOTION FAILS. WE DO HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THE FLOOR. PLEASE SUBMIT YOUR VOTE. THE MOTION CARRIES. NEXT ITEM PULLED WAS AN ORDINANCE ACCEPTING -- ITEM NUMBER 13, AN ORDINANCE ACCEPTING AND APPROPRIATING THE 2026 TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND COMMUNITY AFFAIRS, HOMELESS HOUSING AND SERVICES PROGRAM. COUNCILWOMAN PAXSON? >> Paxson: I JUST HAD A QUICK QUESTION, I DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THE ITEM. THIS YEAR IN DISCUSSION WE TALKED AT LENGTH ABOUT DIFFERENT PROJECTS AND DIFFERENT COMPANIES AND I APPRECIATE THAT IN THE PACKET YOU PROVIDED US A LIST OF SOME OF THE LOCAL ORGANIZATIONS THAT DO APPLY CUSTOMARILY FOR THIS, SO MY QUESTION WAS MORE ON THE LINES OF WHEN ARE THESE DARREN WHEN DO WE BEGIN THIS REVIEW PROCESS, BECAUSE I DID FEEL LIKE THIS YEAR, ESPECIALLY FOR ME COMING IN KIND OF NEW IN JANUARY, I FELT LIKE WE WERE KIND OF RACING TO ANSWER SOME OF THE QUESTIONS, KIND OF RACING TO LOOK AT SOME ALTERNATIVE OPTIONS, YOU AND I HAD SPOKEN ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF MOVING THINGS INTO DIFFERENT BUCKETS OR DIFFERENT PROJECTS, AND IT JUST KIND OF HAD TO RUSH TO MEET THOSE DEADLINES. I WAS CURIOUS, WHEN DO WE START THESE BEING OPENED AND EVALUATED AND OFFERED AND EVALUATED, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. >> McGinn: SURE. DAN McGINN, DIRECTOR OF PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT, KRNTLY INTERIM ACM AS WELL. THE PROCESS HERE, WE'VE ACTUALLY ALREADY RELEASED THE REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS TO COME INTO US, THAT OPENED IN NOVEMBER 3RD AND WE PUT OUT A MEMO FOR THAT AND LET ALL OF THE THIRD-PARTIES IN OUR COMMUNITY, THEY'RE AWARE OF THAT. AND SO THE DEADLINE TO SUBMIT IS DECEMBER 5TH. AND SO OUR TEAM WILL HAVE A PANEL THAT WILL SCORE THOSE APPLICATIONS OF SUBMITTALS, AND THEN WE'LL HOPE TO GET BACK TO COUNCIL FOR JANUARY 27TH WHERE THE COUNCIL CAN REVIEW OUR WORK, OUR RECOMMENDATIONS AND MOVE ON FROM THERE. THE TOTAL AMOUNT IS ABOUT $264,000. LAST YEAR THE RECIPIENT WAS MISSION 91 W 9-1-1, WE'LL SEE KIND OF WHAT WE GET THIS YEAR AND WE'LL SCORE THEM AND PRESENT THEM TO COUNCIL. >> Paxson: SO THEY'RE OPEN NOW, DUE THE FIRST PART OF DECEMBER, WE'LL COME BACK IN THE SPRING. >> McGinn: JANUARY. >> Paxson: THANK YOU. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. >> Mayor Guajardo: OKAY. >> SECOND. >> Mayor Guajardo: WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. PLEASE SUBMIT YOUR VOTE. ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? I'M SORRY, ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEM NUMBER 13? OKAY. WE'LL MOVE ON WITH THE VOTE. DO YOU WANT TO VOTE ON THIS, COUNCILMAN? >> [OFF MIC] >> Mayor Guajardo: OKAY. SO THE MOTION CARRIES, BUT HE'LL BE ON RECORD, COUNCILMAN SCOTT IS VOTING AYE. MOVING ON TO SECTION K, PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS, 15 THROUGH 17, ITEM NUMBER 15 IS A ZONING CASE NUMBER ZN8855, WILLIAM MAYS IN DISTRICT ONE. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL. MY NAME IS ANDREW DEMUAS, I'M PRESENTING TODAY'S LONE ZONING CASE. THIS CASE ZN8855 WILLIAM MAYS. SO WE HAVE BEFORE YOU TODAY THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN THE NORTHWEST AREA OF THE CITY, THE REQUEST IS FROM THE FR FARM RURAL DISTRICT TO THE RS-6 SINGLE FAMILY 6 DISTRICT. THE PROPERTY IS ROUGHLY JUST UNDER 69 ACRES IN SIZE, AND THE REQUEST IS FOR -- TO CONSTRUCT ROUGHLY ABOUT 220 SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. OKAY. LOOKING AT THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES, AGAIN, IT IS LOCATED IN THE NORTHWEST AREA, FALLS UNDER THAT AREA DEVELOPMENT PLAN ADOPTED BACK IN 2001. IT IS ROUNDED BY EITHER PROPERTIES THAT ARE OUTSIDE OF THE CITY LIMITS OR HAVE SINGLE FAMILY ZONING TO THE EAST AND FR ZONING TO THE WEST. THE PUBLIC NOTICES MAILED, 25 IN TOTAL, WE RECEIVED ZERO IN FAVOR AND ZERO IN OPPOSITION. AND AFTER STAFF HAS CONCLUDED ITS ANALYSIS AND RECOMMENDATIONS, WE FIND THAT IT IS OVERALL CONSISTENT WITH PLAN CC, THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AS WELL AS THE AREA DEVELOPMENT PLAN. THE ONE SMALL INCONSISTENCY IS ON THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP, IT HASN'T BEEN UPDATED NOW GOING ON 25 YEARS. IT DOES SHOW SOME MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT AT THE NORTHWEST CORRIDOR WHICH IS NOT UNCOMMON. THAT NOW WILL BE SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT AS WELL. HOWEVER, THAT ASIDE, IT IS SURROUNDED BY SIMILAR PROPERTIES OF CHARACTER AS WELL AS OTHER SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENTS. THAT WAS PRESENTED TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, PLANNING COMMISSION AND STAFF HAVE BOTH RECOMMENDED APPROVAL. AND I DO HAVE A FEW EXTRA SLIDES IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO SEE A SITE PLAN OR KIND OF AN OVERLAY OF THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT ON AN AERIAL IMAGE, BUT BARRING THAT, I'M HAHAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. COUNCILMA N ROY. >> Roy: CAN YOU GO AHEAD -- I'D LIKE TO SEE THOSE. >> ABSOLUTELY. HERE'S A ZOOMED-IN VERSION, IT'S A FOUR-PHASE DEVELOPMENT, ROUGHLY 226 HOMES CONSTRUCTED OVER THOSE FOUR PHASES, AND ON THE LAST SLIDE HERE OVERLAYING WHAT THOSE FOUR PHASES WOULD ROUGHLY LOOK LIKE COMPARED TO THE SURROUNDING BUILT ENVIRONMENT TODAY. YOU'LL HAVE THE FIRST PHASE CONNECTING TO NORTHWEST BOULEVARD. PHASE 2 WILL BE CONNECTING TO, AGAIN, NORTHWEST AND LAKE ATHENS WHICH IS AN EXISTING NORTHWEST DEVELOPMENT. SECTIONS 3 AND 4, WHICH ARE FUTURE PHASES DOWN THE ROAD COULD POTENTIALLY CONNECT TO AMANDA LANE AT ITS SOUTHERNMOST PORTION. >> Roy: THANK YOU. I'VE HAD QUITE A FEW PHONE CALLS ON THIS AND PEOPLE THAT HAVE REACHED OUT. ACTUALLY, I SPOKE TO THE COUNTY COMMISSIONER FOR DISTRICT ONE, MIKE PUSLEY ABOUT IT, AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I UNDERSTAND THIS CORRECTLY SN; THAT TODAY, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, IS THE ZONING PART. BUT IN TERMS OF THE ACTUAL PLANNING AND THE FINAL APPROVAL OF HOW THAT SUBDIVISION IS GOING TO BE LAID OUT IS FOR THE FUTURE DATE CORRECT? >> EXCELLENT QUESTION. SO, YES, TODAY WE ARE ESTABLISHING THE LAND USE, WHICH IS WHETHER OR NOT COUNCIL BELIEVES THAT SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT BELONGS IN THIS AREA. THAT IS FIRST AND FOREMOST IN SETTING THE GROUNDWORK. FUTURE PHASES, WHICH IS THE PLAT AND HOW THE PROPERTY IS ACTUALLY SUBDIVIDED, WILL RETURN WITH AN APPLICATION, GO THROUGH THE PLANNING COMMISSION PROCESS. SO FAR ONLY THE MASTER PRELIMINARY PLOT HAS BEEN SUBMITTED, THAT IS GOING THROUGH ENTER NATURAL REVIEW. WE ARE SHARING THOSE DOCUMENTS WITH NUECES COUNTY TO ENSURE THEY GET FULL RIGHTS TO COMMENTS AND I, TOO, HAVE SPOKEN WITH COMMISSIONER PUSLEY AND WE CAME TO THAT RESOLUTION OF SHARING INFORMATION. >> Roy: I THINK, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU TAKE -- WHEN YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THE AREA, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WAS HAPPY WAS THAT IN TERMS OF IT BEING AN RS-6, SO THE DENSITY IS NOT AS CLOSE AS SOME OF THE OTHER PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN IN THE NORTHWEST AND JUST IN THE CITY IN YES. I DO KNOW WHEN YOU TAKE A LOOK AT BARBARA LANE, FOR EXAMPLE, AND AMANDA LANE, THOSE ARE -- RESIDE ACTUALLY IN THE COUNTY, AND THERE'S BEEN QUITE A BIT OF DEVELOPMENT ALREADY GOING ON IN THAT AREA. SOME OF THOSE HOUSES IN THE COUNTY, AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT THEY'RE ON A LITTLE BIT LARGER ACREAGE. THIS PARTICULAR MASTER PLAN COMMUNITY, THOUGH, THE THING THAT I'M EXCITED ABOUT THIS, IS THAT I BELIEVE THIS IS THE SAME GROUP -- THEY HAVE ANOTHER PROJECT THAT'S IN THE CITY GOING, TOO, IS THAT CORRECT. >> IN THE LONDON AREA, YES, SIR. >> Roy: IN THE LONDON AREA. WHAT I LIKE ABOUT THIS IS THE FACT THEY DO WALKING TRAILS, THEY DO POOLS. IT'S A VERY UPSCALE, VERY NICE COMMUNITY THAT HAS A LOT OF PARKS AND THINGS IN THERE, AMENITIES THAT I THINK WOULD BE VERY NICE FOR THAT AREA. IT'S NOT WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO SEE A ROW OF HOUSES THAT ARE SIMILAR TO WHAT I REMEMBER IN WORLD WAR II BARRACKS IN THE MILITARY. BUT ANYWAY, SO I'M EXCITED ABOUT THAT. I DO, THOUGH, WANT TO STRESS -- AND I JUST WANT TO BRING THIS UP TO COUNCIL -- IS THAT WE DO LOOK WITH CAUTION TO MAKE SURE, NUMBER ONE, WE HAVE TO BE SAFE. I MEAN, WE HAD THIS ISSUE COME UP IN COUNCILMEMBER HERNANDEZ'S AREA RECENTLY ABOUT A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE IF THERE'S A FIRE, AN EMERGENCY, THAT PEOPLE CAN GET IN AND OUT. AND THAT EMS CAN GET IN THERE AND DO ALL THE THINGS THAT THEY NEED TO DO OR FIRE WITHOUT ANY TYPE OF HINDERANCE. SO THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FOR THIS PROJECT, BUT, AGAIN, THAT WILL BE DETERMINED AT A LATER DATE. SO I SUPPORT THIS PROJECT, I'M GLAD THAT IT'S AN RS-6 AND I LOOK FORWARD TO IT. I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A BIG PLUS FOR THE NORTHWEST, BUT I'M ALSO VERY MUCH INDEED WANTING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T DO ANYTHING THAT'S UNNECESSARY AS FAR AS CREATING ANYTHING THAT -- WE NEED TO BE SMART ABOUT HOW WE PROCEED WITH THE PLANNING ON THIS IN THE FUTURE. >> ABSOLUTELY. >> Roy: SO THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, SIR. COUNCILWO MAN VAUGHN. >> Vaughn: I HAVE THE SAME CONCERNS THAT HE DOES, BECAUSE THAT'S A BUSY AREA OUT THERE. IT'S A GOOD PROJECT, I DROVE OUT THERE THIS MORNING, Y'ALL HAVE GOT TO MAKE SURE, I KNOW YOU DON'T DO IT RIGHT NOW, BUT JUST HEADS UP, THEY'VE GOT TO HAVE SEVERAL ENTRANCES, AT LEAST A COUPLE, THEY HAVE TO, OR YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET IN AND OUT OF THERE. >> ABSOLUTELY. >> Vaughn: SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT Y'ALL THINK ABOUT THAT. >> YES, MA'AM, THANK YOU VANCE JACKSON THANK YOU. COUNCILMA N CANTU. >> Cantu: I GOT LIKE THREE TEXT MESSAGES THIS MORNING ABOUT THE NOTICES YOU GUYS SENT OUT WERE TO VACANT PROPERTIES. IS THAT TRUE? >> CORRECT. SO THE NOTICES THAT ARE SENT OUT IS ESTABLISHED ON A PERIMETER BY STATE LAW, WHICH MEANS A RING IS PLACED ON THE PROPERTY, WE CAN GO BACK A FEW SLIDES, THE STATE LAW SETS THE BOUNDARY AT 200 FEET. REGARDLESS IF THE PROPERTY HAS A SINGLE FAMILY HOME ON IT, HAS A BUSINESS ON IT, THEY WILL RECEIVE A NOTICE IF THEY'RE WITHIN THAT RING. IN THIS CASE THERE ARE PLATTED LOTS THAT ARE UNDER DEVELOPMENT TODAY THAT DID RECEIVE A NOTICE TO THE CURRENT DEVELOPER. >> Cantu: GOT IT. OKAY. THANK YOU. >> Mayor Guajardo: LET'S SEE. I THINK THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS. THANK YOU, ANDREW. >> THANK YOU. >> Mayor Guajardo: AND I'D LIKE TO OPEN PUBLIC HEARING. IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE COMMENT ON ITEM NUMBER 15? >> MY NAME'S BJ JOHNSTON, I'M ON AMANDA LANE, WHICH IS THE PROPOSED ACCESS POINT ON THE PHASE THREE AND 4 ON THE PLAT. WE -- I'VE SUBMITTED A PETITION TO ALL OF YOU, MY NEIGHBORS HAVE SIGNED IT, JUST KIND OF PUTTING EVERYBODY ON NOTICE THAT WE, THE NEIGHBORS ON AMANDA LANE, ARE OPPOSED TO USING AMANDA LANE AS AN ACCESS FOR THIS PROPOSED SUBDIVISION. OUR 3 IS A COUNTY STREET, IT'S NOT A CITY STREET. OUR HOUSES ARE ON ACRE LOTS, SO WE'RE A SMALL SUBDIVISION. YOU KNOW, WE WERE DEVELOPED AS A QUIET, LOW-TRAFFIC CUL-DE-SAC COMMUNITY. WE WANTED OUR STREET TO REMAIN SAFE AND QUIET AND THAT'S WHY WE BUILT OUR HOMES THERE, THAT'S WHY MOST OF US HAVE BEEN THERE FROM THE ORIGINAL DEVELOPMENT OF THAT PROPERTY. THE BIGGEST ISSUE FOR ME AND FOR US AS FAMILIES IS THE SAFETY RISK INVOLVED IN ACCESSING THIS LARGE NEIGHBORHOOD THROUGH OUR STREET. WE DO NOT HAVE STREETLIGHTS, WE DO NOT HAVE SIDEWALKS, THERE ARE PEDESTRIAN, CHILDREN, FAMILIES THAT USE OUR STREET, OUR MAILBOX IS AT THE PROPOSED ACCESS POINT FOR THE ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD. THE INCREASE IN TRAFFIC WOULD DISRUPT THE QUIET ENJOYMENT OF OUR HOMES AND UNDERMINE THE SAFETY AND CHARACTER OF OUR EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD. ALSO AMANDA LANE WAS JUST RECENTLY ADOPTED BY NUECES COUNTY. PREVIOUSLY IT WAS CONSIDERED A PRIVATE ROAD. OUR NEIGHBORS HAVE COME TO CITY AND TO CITY DEVELOPMENT AND TO THE COUNTY FOR SIX, SEVEN YEARS TO TRY TO GET THE COUNTY TO ADOPT THIS STREET AND TO CONSIDER IT A PUBLIC ROAD, EVEN AFTER CITY AND COUNTY HAS GRANTED ACCESS TO A NEW DEVELOPMENT BEHIND OUR STREET, EVEN AT THAT TIME IT WAS CONSIDERED, QUOTE, UNQUOTE PRIVATE. SO OUR STREET NEEDS REPAIRS. THE COUNTY FINALLY HAS STARTED TO COME OUT LAST WEEK, BUT UP UNTIL JUST RECENTLY, THE CITY DIDN'T WANT ANYTHING TO DO WITH OUR STREET, AND NOW TO ALLOW A NEW DEVELOPMENT TO USE OUR STREET IS JUST -- IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. AND WE'RE ALL FOR GROWTH WHEN IT MAKES SENSE. WHEN IT DOES NOT PROPOSE A SAFETY ISSUE FOR OUR FAMILIES AND, YOU KNOW, WHEN IT DOESN'T UNDERMINE THE INTEGRITY OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WE'VE ALREADY ESTABLISHED. THANK YOU. >> Mayor Guajardo: THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? >> HI, GOOD AFTERNOON, JAIR RAD BOLLIGER, ROBSTOWN, DISTRICT ONE. I LIVE ON LAKE ATHENS AVENUE AND JUST FOUND OUT ABOUT THIS NEW DEVELOPMENT ON SUNDAY THROUGH MY WIFE, THANKS TO A FACEBOOK GROUP THAT LAKE ATHENS COMMUNITY MEMBERS ARE A PART OF. AND I'VE GOT TO SAY, I'VE HEARD JUST IN THIS MEETING ALONE, THE DISCUSSION OF DROUGHT AND THE IMMEDIATE BURDEN THAT WE HAVE IN OUR STRESSED COMMUNITIES. AND I WOULD LIKE TO THINK THAT ADDING AN ADDITIONAL 224 HOMES IN AN AREA THAT IS ALREADY GRAPPLING WITH DROUGHT RESTRICTIONS IS A POOR USE OF OUR TIME AND ENERGY. AND I WOULD ASK THAT THE CITY PRIORITIZES ITS CURRENT TAX BASE BEFORE ADDING ADDITIONAL BURDEN TO OUR -- >> City Secretary: SIR, I'M SO SORRY TO INTERRUPT. YOU SAID DISTRICT ONE BUT YOU ALSO SAID ROBSTOWN. YOU'RE NOT A RESIDENT. >> NO, I LIVE IN LAKE ATHENS AVENUE, WHICH IS NOW A DIRECT ACCESS POINT. >> City Secretary: SO IT'S ONE MINUTE. SIR, IT IS ONE MINUTE THEN. SO YOU'VE -- >> HE'S SAYING ROBSTOWN -- >> SO I FALL IN A UNIQUE KIND OF ZONE WHERE MY ADDRESS IS TECHNICALLY ROBSTOWN BUT THIS PROJECT WILL ACCESS MY -- AND YOU CAN SEE THERE'S A 200-FOOT ZONE, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT. I TECHNICALLY FALL OUT OF THAT 200 FEET, BUT I'M ONE OF THE ONLY RESIDENTS THAT'S ACTUALLY IN THAT DIRECT AREA. >> Roy: AMANDA LANE -- >> IT'S IN THE COUNTY. >> [OFF MIC] >> City Secretary: I JUST NEEDED TO KNOW IF HE'S A RESIDENT OR NOT. >> Roy: THANK YOU, SIR. I'M SORRY. >> AGAIN, WATER SCARCITY, E EXTREME DROUGHT, INFRASTRUCTURE, LOSS OF FARMLAND. I WON'T TAKE UP ANY MORE OF YOUR TIME, BUT FOR THOSE REASONS ALONE, AND THE FACT I LITERALLY JUST FOUND OUT ABOUT THIS ON SUNDAY, SO PROPER DUE DILIGENCE IN MY OPINION WAS NOT PERFORMED PROPERLY. I WOULD ASK THAT YOU VOTE NO ON THE ZONING CASE ZN8855 TODAY. THANK YOU. >> Mayor Guajardo: THANK YOU, SIR. ANYONE ELSE? WOULD ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO MAKE COMMENT ON ITEM NUMBER 16 -- I'M SORRY, 15? >> MOSES MATT GAS SI, DISTRICT 5. JUST WANT TO REMIND EVERYBODY THIS IS A ZONING CASE. THE LAND DEVELOPER HAS PROVIDED THE ACTUAL PLAT THAT DOES SHOW CONNECTIVITY TO TWO CURRENT NEIGHBORHOODS, AMANDA LANE AND LAKE ATHENS, OR LAKE NORTHWEST. WHAT IT DOES IS PROVIDE JUST CONNECTIVITY, WHICH IS WHAT THE CITY WANTS FOR SAFETY. ULTIMATELY, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE PEOPLE GO DOWN AMANDA LANE TO ACCESS THESE HOMES. YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE PEOPLE COMING OUT OF LAKE ATHENS AND AMANDA LANE TO ACCESS THE 624 ROADWAY. SO ULTIMATELY WHAT IT'S GOING TO DO IS TAKE TRAFFIC OFF OF 1889. SO -- AND IF YOU LOOK AT IT, THEY DID ACTUALLY SAY THAT THESE LOT SIZES AVERAGE AT 9790. AND RS-6 ZONE IS A 6,000 SQUARE FOOT LOT, SO TECHNICALLY, THIS IS CLOSER TO AN RS-10 ZONING WHICH IS A FOURTH OF AN ACRE. SO THANK YOU. >> Mayor Guajardo: THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? >> MAYOR, COUNCILMEMBER, [INDISCERNIBLE] GARZA, REPRESENTING THE DEVELOPER OF THIS COMMUNITY. YEAH, AS MOSES SAID, WE HAVE A COUPLE OF ACCESSES FOR THIS SUBDIVISION. RIGHT NOW WE'RE JUST ASKING FOR THE ZONING. WE'RE GOING TO GET WITH THE CITY GETTING THE MASTER PLAN APPROVED AND MAKE SURE THAT WE COMPLY WITH THEIR REQUIREMENTS AND MAKE SURE THAT THIS SUBDIVISION IS SUCCESSFUL AND IT'S WHAT THE CITY NEEDS IN THIS AREA. THANK YOU. >> Mayor Guajardo: THANK YOU, SIR. ANYONE ELSE? OKAY. WE'LL CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING. AND COUNCILWOMAN PAXSON? >> Paxson: THANK YOU. A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. >> YES, MA'AM. >> Paxson: IT LOOKS HERE LIKE WE MAILED NOTICES OUT IN THE 200-FOOT BUFFER, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE SOMEONE PERCEIVES THAT THEIR RESIDENCE FALLS WITHIN THIS BOUNDARY AND THEY DIDN'T RECEIVE A NOTICE POTENTIALLY. I FEEL LIKE WE COME TO THIS POINT A LOT ON THESE PROJECTS. THERE'S GOT TO BE A BETTER SOLUTION. JUST LAST WEEK, I SENT OUT FIVE OR SIX LETTERS AND I THINK I GOT RECEIPT THAT ONE PERSON GOT THEM. IT'S GOING TO FLOAT DOWN A FEW MORE WEEKS, MAYBE THE REST WILL GET THEM, THAT TYPE OF THING. THERE'S GOT TO BE A BETTER SOLUTION TO ENSURING THAT WE'VE CONNECTED WITH THESE PROPERTIES, BECAUSE BY THE TIME IT GETS HERE, THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO KNOW ALSO. YOU KNOW, WE'RE JUGGLING, ONE, THIS IS SOMEONE'S LAND, AND THEY'RE ENTITLED TO HAVE THEIR VISION AND THEY CAN COME TO US AND SAY, YOU KNOW, THIS IS HOW WE WANT TO DEVELOP IT SO WE NEED A CHANGE, BUT THEN OUR OTHER RESPONSIBILITY IS HOW DOES THAT ASSIMILATE TO THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES, YOU KNOW? DO WE DO THAT IN THE BEST WAY POSSIBLE? HOW DO WE DO THAT? AND THAT'S A BIG GAPING MISSING PIECE OF INFORMATION IF, YOU KNOW -- THAT'S ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS I PULL IS WHAT IS THE RESPONSES TO THE COMMUNITY. AND OFTEN, THERE'S VERY LITTLE FEEDBACK AND I CAN'T HELP BUT WONDER HOW MUCH OF THAT IS JUST NOTICES SENSE OUT THAT NEVER ACTUALLY MAKE IT TO THEIR TARGET, SO WE'VE GOT TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO BRIDGE TA GAP. AND I'M SINCERELY APOLOGETIC TO THE PROPERTIES THAT -- I DON'T KNOW WHERE IT BROKE DOWN, BUT APPARENTLY SOMETHING -- IT SOUNDS LIKE SOMETHING BROKE DOWN. I DON'T DOUBT THAT YOU SENT THEM, I DON'T DOUBT AT ALL THAT YOU SENT THEM, BUT WHETHER OR NOT THEY RECEIVED THEM SO THEY COULD FEEL LIKE THEY CAN PROVIDE ADEQUATE INPUT IS THE ISSUE, TO ME. >> THE HARD PART OF PUBLIC NOTICE, AND IT'S WITH ANY OTHER PROJECT, IS WHERE TO SET THE BAR. AND THE STATE TOOK ITS STANCE OF SETTING IT AT 200. FOLKS, FOR YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN WITH THE CITY SHOULD ARGUE, SHOULD WE EXTEND IT TO 300 400? AT A CERTAIN POINT, IT'S SIMPLER TO STICK WITH THE STATE GUIDELINE BECAUSE THERE WILL ALWAYS BE A PERSON THAT FEELS THEY DIDN'T RECEIVE A NOTICE. AND I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND, I'VE BEEN -- I LIVE ADJACENT TO A PAST ZONING CASE, I WAS DIRECTLY OUTSIDE THE RING, IT WASN'T A MEANS OF IT WAS PURPOSEFUL OF -- AND I HAVE THE LIST HERE OF THE NOTICES THAT WERE SENT OUT, ALL 25 NOTICES. WHAT THE STATE ALSO PROVIDES, IN WHICH WE HAVE ADOPTED AS PART OF OUR PROCESS, IS TO POST NOW A FAIRLY LARGE EIGHT SQUARE FOOT SIGN AT THE FRONT OF THE PROPERTY, WHICH ADVERTISING THE VOTE FOR COUNCIL AND FOR PLANNING COMMISSION. SO ANY PERSON DRIVING BY WILL SEE THIS NOW EVEN LARGER SIGN THAT SAYS PLEASE COME VOICE YOUR OPINION, HAS YOUR PHONE NUMBER, HAS A QR CODE WHICH HAS THE DETAILS OF THE ZONING CASE AND HOW TO REACH MYSELF OR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES STAFF. >> Paxson: SO I TOTALLY GET THAT. AGAIN, I DIDN'T QUESTION WHETHER OR NOT YOU FOLLOWED THE PROTOCOL. I HAVE FAITH THAT YOU DID, FULL CONFIDENCE. BUT THIS INDIVIDUAL -- AND I'M LOOKING AT IT, I CAN COUNT AT LEAST 10 PROPERTIES, SMALL SINGLE FAMILY DWELLINGS THAT LAND IN THIS CIRCLE, THE BLUE CIRCLE. SO WHAT THEY'RE -- IT SOUNDED LIKE THEY IDENTIFIED THAT THEIR PROPERTY'S IN THAT CIRCLE BUT THEY DIDN'T GET THE NOTICE, AND I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU, BUT FOR ME, IF I'M COMING HOME OR I'M GOING TO WORK, I PROBABLY AM NOT GOING TO SEE THOSE LITTLE YARD SIGNS. AS SOMEONE WHO CAMPAIGNS, THAT'S WHY WE NEED THE REALLY BIG ONES. IT'S SOMETIMES HARD TO -- >> WE REGULARLY WORK WITH THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE TAX ROLLS ARE UP TO DATE. THAT'S AN ISSUE ON ANOTHER ZONING CASE WE'RE GOING THROUGH RIGHT NOW SINCE IT INVOLVED A CONDO AND THERE'S 200 SMALL 1% PROPERTY OWNERS THAT FALL WITHIN THAT DOUGHNUT, SO IT IS A CONSTANT IMPROVEMENT TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE TOUCHING ALL THE PERSONS THAT WE NEED TO REACH. OF THOSE IN THE CLUSTER OF THE RESIDENTS, ROUGHLY 18 OF THE 25 NOTICES, EXCEPT FOR ONE, ARE OWNED BY THE DEVELOPER, EITHER A BUILDER THAT IS CURRENTLY CONSTRUCTING HOMES, SO IT IS NOT TRANSFERRED TO A PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNER, OR THE OVERALL LANDOWNER. THERE WAS ONLY ONE WITHIN THAT CLUSTER OF SINGLE FAMILY HOMES THAT RECEIVED AN INDIVIDUAL NOTICE. >> Paxson: OKAY. WELL, MAYBE THERE'S SOMETHING WE CAN ENGAGE, IF IT IS A DEVELOPER-OWNED SUBDIVISION, WE'LL PUT THE RESPONSIBILITY ON THEM, LIKE, HEY, WE NEED SOME FEEDBACK BECAUSE WE'VE GOT TO DO -- WE'VE GOT TO DO SOMETHING TO BRIDGE THIS GAP, IT CONSISTENTLY COMES UP. AND, AGAIN, I'M NOT QUESTIONING WHETHER OR NOT YOU FOLLOWED THE PROCESS. >> OH, NO -- >> Paxson: I JUST WOULD LIKE TO CONNECT A LITTLE BETTER. MY SECOND QUESTION IS, ARE THERE OTHER OPTIONS? I UNDERSTAND WE'RE NOT AT THE POINT WHERE WE'RE APPROVING THE ACTUAL PLAN OF THIS, WE'RE LOOKING AT THE ZONING NOW, BUT I DO THINK THEY'RE CONNECTED. I'VE GOT AN AREA WHERE THERE'S A LOT OF VERY LARGE PROPERTIES OF SMALL, QUIET RURAL ROADS AND THEY DO NOT WANT THEM OVERLY UTILIZED BECAUSE THAT'S HOW THEY PURR CHASESSED IT. THAT IS THE CULTURE THEY WANTED TO RETIRE IN OR WHATEVER THEIR PREROGATIVE IS. IS THERE ALTERNATIVE ROUTES THAT CAN BE SOUGHT WITH THIS PROPERTY IF WE CHANGE THIS ZONE WHERE WE CAN STILL PROVIDE THAT SUFFICIENT ACCESS TO AND FROM THIS PROPERTY WHILE ADDRESSING THOSE CONCERNS? IS THERE OPTIONS WITH THIS? >> YES. SO THE REQUIREMENTS FOR ACCESS FALL WITHIN THE INTERNATIONAL FIRE CODE, AND THAT DICTATES BASED ON A CERTAIN NUMBER OF UNITS, MULTIPLE POINTS OF ACCESS MUST BE PROVIDED. THAT IS WHY ON PHASE 1 OF THE AERIAL IMAGE, IT SHOWS ONLY ACCESS TO NORTHWEST BOULEVARD. ONCE YOU MOVE TO PHASE 2, THAT IS WHERE LAKE ATHENS NOW COMES INTO PLAY FOR A SECOND POINT OF ACCESS. AS 4 PHASES AND YOU'RE GETTING MULTIPLE YEARS INTO THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS, THAT IS WHERE POTENTIALLY AMANDA LANE COULD COME INTO PLAY. I SAY POTENTIALLY, BECAUSE AS WE KNOW, THE HOUSING MARKET IS A MOVING TARGET. SO DEVELOP. DEVELOPMENT OVERALL TAKES TIME, BY THE TIME THEY GET TO THAT PHASE, THEY MAY CHOOSE NOT TO BUILD A THIRD PHASE, 4 FACE. THE PURPOSE OF COUNCIL HERE IS DETERMINING IF SINGLE FAMILY ZONING SHOULD BE ON THIS PROPERTY. >> Paxson: SO THE SHORT ANSWER IS, YES, IT'S A POTENTIAL, BUT THE LONG ANSWER IS IT'S NOT LIKELY GOING TO BE INCLUDED IF WE GO INTO THOSE MULTIPHASE PORTIONS OF THE PROPERTY WE'RE INEVITABLY GOING TO NEED TO UTILIZE THOSE PROPERTIES OR THOSE STREETS? >> CORRECT. SO IF A THIRD POINT OF ACCESS IS REQUIRED, EITHER BARBARA, AMANDA LANE WILL BE THE MORE LIKELY OPTIONS. >> Paxson: GOT YOU. BUT THERE'S -- SO THERE'S STILL SOME DELTA ON WHICH ONE COULD BE SELECTED AND IT COULD MEET THOSE NEEDS. >> CORRECT. >> Paxson: AND LASTLY, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WE GET ALL THE TIME, ALL THE TIME, IS WE'RE APPROVING NEW DEVELOPMENT AND WE'RE APPROVING NEW ZONE CHANGES, AND MAYBE THIS ISN'T THE QUESTION FOR YOU, BUT WE'RE IN A DROUGHT. MY UNDERSTANDING BASED ON CONVEYING THOSE CONCERNS TO OUR STAFF IS, YOU KNOW, WHAT -- WHAT DO WE HAVE THAT WE CAN TELL THE PUBLIC THAT THESE ARE YEARS DOWN THE LINE, THAT WE'RE PROACTIVELY CONSIDERING THE DRAW THAT WE'RE PLACING ON OUR WATER SYSTEM, THAT TYPE OF THING. I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE ANYBODY FROM WATER DEPARTMENT HERE. I KNOW THEY GAVE A PRESENTATION EARLIER THAT SAYS BY 2027 WE'RE LOOKING AT PUSHING OFF CURTAILMENT ALL TOGETHER, AND PHASE ONCE IS GOING TO BE HOW MANY YEARS OUT APPROXIMATELY? TWO, THREE YEARS. SO WE'RE 2025 NOW, SO WE'RE NOT EVEN GOING TO BE BREAKING GROUND UNTIL PAST THAT DATE S. >> COR. >> ZONING AND PLATTING ARE TWO SIDES OF THE SAME COIN. ZONING IS GOING TO ESTABLISH SHOULD THIS PARTICULAR USE BE ALLOWED. PLATTING WILL THEN COME IN AND ESTABLISH HOW UTILITIES WILL CONNECT, HOW THE PROPERTY WILL BE SUBDIVIDED AND IF THE SERVICES ARE AVAILABLE. >> Paxson: I JUST WANT TO SPEAK TO THAT CONCERN BECAUSE IT'S OF HUGE PRIORITY TO US AS WELL WE'RE BEING MINDFUL OF THE NEW DEVELOPMENTS WE'RE BRINGING. OKAY. THANK YOU. COUNCILWO MAN VAUGHN? >> Vaughn: HOW BIG ARE THE SIGNS YOU OUR PUTTING OUT. >> THEY'VE MOVED OUT TO EIGHT SQUARE FEET. >> Vaughn: THAT'S MUCH BETTER THAN IT USED TO BE. AND ARE YOU PUTTING OUT MORE THAN ONE? >> YES. >> Vaughn: JUST MAKING SURE. THERE'S NO WAY YOU CAN SEND ALL THOSE NOTE T NOTICES OUT AND EVERYBODY'S GOING TO SEND THEM. I REMEMBER AMANDA LANE WHEN I WAS ON COMMISSIONERS COURT. I'M HOPING MOSES AND EVERYBODY WILL TAKE CARE OF THAT. I APPRECIATE YOU SAYING YOU'RE NOT GOING TO USE AMANDA LANE. THEY SHOULD NOT USE AMANDA LANE. >> WE'VE INITIATED A THREE-WAY PRELIMINARY CONVERSATION BETWEEN THE CITY, THE COUNTY AND THE DEVELOPER. >> Vaughn: THANK YOU. COUNCILMA N HERNANDEZ? >> Hernandez: OKAY. CAN YOU PUT THAT OVERLAY OF THEIR PLAT BACK UP THERE. >> SURE. >> Hernandez: SO THE MAIN ENTRANCE INTO THAT IS OFF OF NORTHWEST HIGHWAY, CORRECT? >> CORRECT. 624. >> Hernandez: AND THEY WILL CONNECT WITH, WHAT IS IT ATHENS OR ATHENA. >> LAKE ATHENS. >> Hernandez: LAKE ATHENS AS TO CONNECT THOSE RESIDENTS OF LAKE ATHENS TO 624? >> CORRECT. >> Hernandez: THEY COULD UTILIZE THAT. SO IT IMPROVES THE MOBILITY FOR THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS. >> NO PUN ENDED, IT'S A TWO-WAY STREET. >> Hernandez: HA HA. NOW, I'M ASSUMING THAT ROAD THAT ACCESSES TO 624 NORTHWEST HIGHWAY IS EITHER A COLLECTOR OR A PARKWAY. >> IT IS A PARKWAY COLLECTOR, SO IT'S A LARGER 75-FOOT -- >> Hernandez: SO 75-FOOT. SO THIS IS EVEN BIGGER THAN A C-1 COLLECTOR. >> CORRECT. >> Hernandez: SO IT'S A NICE, WIDE ROAD FOR PEOPLE TO GET IN AND OUT OF THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS. I WOULD IMAGINE YOU CAN EVEN ACCESS THE -- AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS KIND OF A WEIRD STRIP THAT WAS ANNEXED INTO THE CITY AND IT ENDS RIGHT THERE WHERE THAT NEIGHBORHOOD IS ON LAKE ATHENS, IS THE -- THE OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS ON BARBARA LANE AND AMANDA LANE ARE IN THE COUNTY? >> CORRECT. >> Hernandez: YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK ANY OF THOSE ROADS WILL GET IMPROVED TO CITY STANDARDS BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO REMAIN IN THE COUNTY, AND THE DRAINAGE WOULD BE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE COUNTY, NOT THE CITY, CORRECT? >> AND THAT BRINGS UP A GOOD POINT. SO DURING THAT PLATTING PROCESS, THE STORMWATER QUALITY MANAGEMENT PLAN HOLDS A DEVELOPER OF A PROPERTY TO NOT DISCHARGE WATER ABOVE NATURAL FLOW. SO THEY WILL NOT INCUR ANY AD KITION L DRAINAGE OTHER THAN WHAT NATURAL LIQUORED. >> Hernandez: SO THOSE LAKES THAT ARE THERE, THAT ARE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, LAKE ATHENS ARE RETENTION PONDS. >> FOR THAT SPECIFIC DEVELOPMENT. >> Hernandez: FOR THAT SPECIFIC. AND I SEE ONE THAT'S IN THE PLAT HERE ON THE FRONT END CLOSE TO NORTHWEST HIGHWAY IS ALSO A RETENTION POND. >> YES, SIR. >> Hernandez: IS THAT ENOUGH FOR THAT AREA? >> AGAIN AT THIS PRELIMINARY STAGE TION, WE'RE LOOKING AT THE MASTER, AT THE FINAL STAGE IS WHEN THE STORMWATER PLAN HAS TO BE SUBMITTED WITH THOSE DELTA VALUES WITH HOW MUCH WATER IS GOING TO FLOW, CAN THE WATER HOLD FOR X AMOUNT OF TIME BEFORE IT IS DISCHARGED TO NATURAL FLOW TO OTHER PARTS OF THE PROPERTY OR TO A TXDOT MAINTAINED 624. >> Hernandez: OKAY. AND I UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, FOLKS NOT WANTING TO HAVE AN OPEN STREET, YOU KNOW, YOU KIND OF HAVE -- YOU'RE USED TO BEING ON A CUL-DE-SAC, BUT THERE'S ALSO A SAFETY COMPONENT TO THAT, AND COUNCILMAN ROY HAD TOUCHED ON IT, THAT YOU WANT TO HAVE MORE THAN ONE ACCESS TO A NEIGHBORHOOD SO YOU CAN HAVE FIRE AND EMS SERVICES HAVE MORE THAN ONE WAY TO GET INTO YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD. AND, YOU KNOW, THIS IS KIND OF THE THING THAT YOU HAVE TO THINK ABOUT WITH DEVELOPMENT, IS, YOU KNOW, CAN WE GET MORE ACCESS FOR EMS SERVICES AND FOR FIRE SERVICES. AND, YOU KNOW, I -- BIG ADVOCATE TO MAKING SURE THEY HAVE THE SPACE THEY NEED TO -- FOR EITHER C-1 COLLECTORS OR TO GET THOSE VEHICLES IN THERE. IT'S TROUBLESOME IF YOU DON'T HAVE THAT. AND IF YOU ONLY HAVE ONE WAY IN AND ONE WAY OUT, YOU CREATE YOURSELF, YOU KNOW, MAYBE A RISKY SITUATION THAT YOU MAY NOT WANT TO BE IN. SO, YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, WHERE THEY CONNECT, YOU KNOW, AND THIS IS PRELIMINARY PLAT. I HOPE THAT THERE IS SOME COMMUNICATION AS TO THE SAFETY REQUIREMENTS OF HOW WE LOOK AT THIS IN MAKING SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, NOT ONLY THAT YOU, BUT YOUR NEIGHBORS ARE SAFE. NOT A FAN OF THE TWISTY THING, BUT, -- YOU KNOW, THE TWISTY ROAD, BUT THAT'S -- AS LONG AS YOU CAN GET EMERGENCY VEHICLES IN AND OUT, I'M OKAY WITH IT. AND YOU MINIMIZE THE IMPACT TO THE EXISTING NEIGHBORHOODS. I THINK THIS CAN WORK. I APPRECIATE THAT IT'S RS-6, AND, YOU KNOW, NOT EVERYTHING HAS TO FIT ON A POSTAGE STAMP LOT, SO I THINK IT'S A GOOD PROJECT AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS. I APPRECIATE THEM ANNEXING INTO THE CITY. THANKS. >> Roy: I'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION. >> Mayor Guajardo: OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND. >> Barrera: SECOND. >> Mayor Guajardo: WE DO HAVE A SECOND. PLEASE SUBMIT YOUR VOTE. OKAY. THE MOTION CARRIES. ITEM NUMBER 16 IS AN ORDINANCE THORDZING A WATER ARTERIAL TRANSMISSION AND GRID MAIN CONSTRUCTION AND REIMBURSEMENT AGREEMENT UP TO $394,296 WITH MPM DEVELOPMENT, LP, TO CONSTRUCT A WATER ARTERIAL TRANSMISSION AND GRID MAIN RELATED TO KING'S LANDING UNIT 11 SUBDIVISION. >> MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO MOVE TO APPROVE 16 AND 17. >> Cantu: SECOND. >> Mayor Guajardo: LET ME READ ITEM 17 AND WE'LL OPEN PUBLIC COMMENT. THAT IS AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING A DEVELOPER PARTICIPATION AGREEMENT WITH MPM DEVELOPMENT TO REIMBURSE THE DEVELOPER UP TO $944,506.80 FOR THE CITY'S SHARE OF THE COST TO CONSTRUCT LADY ALEXA DRIVE AND CASTLE BLACK DRIVE WITH ROLLER CONTACTED CONCRETE FOR THE KING'S LANDING UNIT 11 SUBDIVISION. I'M GOING TO OPEN PUBLIC HEARING. WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO MAKE COMMENT ON ITEM 16 OR 17? OKAY. WE'LL CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. PLEASE SUBMIT YOUR VOTES. OKAY. THE MOTION CARRIES. SECTION L, BRIEFINGS, WE HAVE ITEM NUMBER 18, THIS IS A BRIEFING ON THE CIVITAN SERVICE CENTER MASTER PLAN. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, MY NAME IS JUAN RIVERA, INTERIM DIRECTOR OF ASSET MANAGEMENT. TODAY I'M GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT THE CIVITAN CENTER MASTER PLAN. FIRST I WANT TO BEGIN WITH ASSET MANAGEMENT INVOLVEMENT WITH THE ROLE WITH THE MASTER PLAN, WITH HIGHLIGHTING OUR MISSION TO THE CITY WHICH IS TO MANAGE, MAINTAIN AND MODERNIZE CORPUS CHRISTI'S ASSETS. THAT EFFORT IS CAPTURED THROUGHOUT THE PLANNING OF THIS MASTER PLAN. WHAT I HOPE TO PROVIDE YOU ALL TODAY IS A HIGH-LEVEL OVERVIEW OF THE CITY SERVICE CENTER FUTURE BUILDOUT FOR THIS AREA, WHICH WILL SUPPORT MULTIPLE DEPARTMENTS AND WILL OPTIMIZE THE 85 ACRES OF INDUSTRIAL SPACE THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE. THE PLAN SEEKS TO PROVIDE SECURITY, ADEQUATE SPACE FOR ADMINISTRATIVE AND OPERATIONAL STAFF, WE ALSO SEEK TO IMPROVE PARKING AREAS, TRAFFIC FLOW, STORAGE AREAS, LAYDOWN YARDS JUST TO IMPROVE EFFICIENCY AND MAXIMIZE OUR SERVICES ACROSS THE CITY. THE ESTIMATED COST OF THIS PROJECT IS A MOVING TARGET, AND THE REASON BEHIND IT IS THERE'S STILL A LOT OF PLANNING AND DESIGN WORK THAT NEEDS TO TAKE PLACE FROM EACH DEPARTMENT. ONE THING THAT ASSET MANAGEMENT WANTS TO MAKE SURE IS THAT THE MASTER PLAN IS NOT A PROJECT. IT'S MORE OF A STRATEGIC FRAMEWORK FOR EVERY DEPARTMENT THAT HAS OPERATIONS TAKING PLACE INSIDE THE CIVITAN SERVICE CENTER. SO WITH THIS STRATEGIC FRAMEWORK, WE LOOK TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE HAS CINERGY THROUGHOUT THEIR PLANNING. THE MASTER PLAN ALSO ALLOWS DEPARTMENTS TO UNDERTHE LAYDOWN OF THAT YARD TO UNDERSTAND THEIR BOUNDARIES WHEN THEY START SEEKING IMPROVEMENTS FOR THEIR AREA. SO WHAT YOU SEE IN FRONT OF YOU IS AN AERIAL DEPICTION OF THE SERVICE CENTER. TO THE NORTH YOU HAVE S SACKY DRIVE, TO THE NORTH YOU HAVE AYERS STREET, SOUTH YOU HAVE HOLLY ROAD AND EAST YOU HAVE RICHTER STREET. UP NEXT I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU DRAWN PHOTOS TO GIVE YOU A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF THE LAYDOWN SERVICE CENTER. THE FOUR-LANE ROAD THAT YOU SEE THERE IS HOLLY ROAD. THE MAIN ENTRANCE, CIVITAN DRIVE, THAT'S THE SOUTHERN ENTRANCE, IMMEDIATELY UPON ENTERING THE SERVICE CENTER, YOU HAVE THE ANIMAL CARE SERVICES. ACROSS THE ROAD FROM THERE, YOU HAVE CCW WITH THEIR ADMINISTRATIVE AND OPERATIONS TEAM. AS YOU CAN SEE, THAT PARKING LOT IS ALREADY OVERFLOWED AND CROWDED AND THAT'S DAILY OPERATIONS THAT TAKE PLACE THERE. TO THE LEFT OF THE ANIMAL CARE SERVICES, YOU HAVE THE LAYDOWN YARD THAT BEGINS OVER ON HOLLY ROAD AND THAT EXTENDS FURTHER NORTH WHICH I WILL CAPTURE HERE AS I GO THROUGH THESE PHOTOS. SO WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE ON CIVITAN DRIVE, SO LET ME ORIENT YOU TO THIS PICTURE. WE'RE ACTUALLY FACING SOUTH, SO WE'RE STILL FACING THE TOP ROAD UP THERE IS HOLLY ROAD, AND AS YOU CONTINUE DOWN CIVITAN DRIVE ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE, YOU HAVE THE WAREHOUSE. THAT WAREHOUSE IS NOT ONLY MAINTAINED BY ASSET MANAGEMENT, BUT YOU ALSO HAVE CCW THAT ALSO HOUSES EQUIPMENT AND USES THAT WAREHOUSE AS STORAGE. SO YOU HAVE TWO DEPARTMENTS CROWDED INTO ONE WAREHOUSE, AND WE'RE BOTH LOOKING TO EXPAND AND WE'RE BOTH LIMITED BY THE EXPANSION DUE TO THE CURRENT FACILITY. AS YOU CAN SEE IN THIS PICTURE, THERE'S EQUIPMENT THAT IS CURRENTLY BEING STORED OUTSIDE. AND AS WE KNOW HERE IN CORPUS CHRISTI, THE CLIMATE IS VERY ARID AND THE SALINITY LEVEL IS VERY HIGH, SO WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO BRING THAT EQUIPMENT INSIDE AND INDOORS. AND THEN TO THE LEFT-HAND SIDE, YOU SEE THE CONTINUATION OF THE LAYDOWN YARD. NOW, CONTINUING ON CIVITAN DRIVE, THE NEXT BUILDING YOU WILL ENCOUNTER ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE IS THE POLICE MOTOR POOL. IN THERE, THERE'S POLICE SERVICES THAT GET CONDUCTED FOR THEIR VEHICLES, THE VERY NEXT BUILDING THAT YOU HAVE IS THE PARKS AND RECS BUILDING WHERE THEY HAVE THEIR OPERATIONS TEAM CURRENTLY RESIDING. I WANT TO POINT OUT TWO THINGS IN THIS PICTURE. FIRST IS THE LAYDOWN YARD THAT YOU SEE NORTH OF THE PARKS AND RECS BUILDING, THAT'S YOUR TINY LAYDOWN YARD WHICH QUITE FRANKLY DOES NOT SUPPORT THEIR CURRENT OPERATIONS THROUGHOUT THE CITY AND THE VARIOUS PARKS THEY HAVE TO MAINTAIN. THE OTHER THING I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT IN THIS PICTURE IS THE OVERCROWDED PARKING LOT IN THE REAR OF BOTH BUILDINGS. IT GETS CROWDED, THERE'S NO STRIPING OUT THERE, IT'S REALLY UNSAFE FOR OUR EMPLOYEES TO KIND OF MANEUVER IN THAT AREA. FOLLOWING DOWN CIVITAN DRIVE, THE VERY NEXT FACILITY THAT YOU WILL ENCOUNTER IS THE FLEET FACILITY. THE LARGE BUILDING THAT YOU SEE THERE IS THE LIGHT EQUIPMENT MECHANIC BAY WHERE MOST OF OUR FLEET DEPARTMENT HANDLES OUR LIGHT EQUIPMENT MAINTENANCE, AND THEN THE FAR BUILDING THAT YOU SEE, WHICH IS THE MALAR ONE, IS THE HEAVIER EQUIPMENT FACILITY. WHAT I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT HERE WHICH IS CLEAR AND APPARENT IS THE MANEUVERING. THE TRAFFIC THAT COMES IN AND THEY HAVE TO GET SERVICED OVER AT THE HEAVY EQUIPMENT SIDE DOES NOT REALLY HAVE ENOUGH SPACE TO ACTUALLY MANEUVER IN THAT AREA. MEANING IN THE MORNING, OR DURING DAILY OPERATIONS, SOME OF OUR DRIVERS ARE FORCED TO MANEUVER IN THOSE TIGHT SPACES. IT'S UNSAFE FOR THE DRIVER AND IT'S UNSAFE FOR OUR EMPLOYEES THAT OPERATE DAILY IN THAT AREA. THE PARKING AREA FOR OUR EMPLOYEES IS IN THE VERY REAR, AND YOU CAN SEE THE PARKING AREA IS DESIGNATED FOR THEM, BUT IT ALSO HAS EQUIPMENT THAT IS STANDING BY READY TO GO IN FOR SERVICES, SO IT'S JUST VERY, VERY JAM PACKED. I HIGHLY -- I HIGHLIGHT SACKY PARK ON THE NORTH BECAUSE I BROUGHT THAT ITEM A FEW WEEKS AGO IN ORDER TO TAKE OVER SOME OF THAT UNUSED PARKLAND AND I WILL HEIGHT WHAT THE FUTURE INTENT FOR THAT IS, BECAUSE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE IMPROVE THE TRAFFIC PATTERN IN AND AROUND THIS AREA AND ALSO GIVING SPACE FOR PARKS AND RECS TO IMPROVE THEIR LAYDOWN YARD. ACROSS THE STREET ON CIVITAN DRIVE, YOU HAVE THE SERVICE STATION, THAT SERVICE STATION HAS GAS AND DIESEL FOR OUR FACILITIES TRUCKS. CARRYING FORWARD ON CIVITAN DRIVE, RIGHT NORTH OF THE SERVICE STATION, YOU HAVE MY FACILITIES TEAM, WHERE I HAVE A SMALL GROUP OF OPERATIONS TAKING PLACE, ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF, AND ACROSS FROM THEM, ACROSS THAT DRAINAGE, YOU HAVE THE LAYDOWN YARD THAT'S USED BY PUBLIC WORKS. THE MOST NORTHERN DEPARTMENT THAT YOU SEE IN THIS PICTURE IS PUBLIC WORKS, AND A FEW THINGS THAT I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THERE IS THEIR CURRENT OPERATIONS. AS YOU CAN SEE, THEY HAD THEIR TRUCKS PARKED, THEY HAVE LAYDOWN YARDS, THEY HAVE THE PERSONNEL PARKING THAT'S IN THE VERY REAR OF THAT BUILDING AND VERY, VERY -- IT'S -- IT'S FAR TO REALLY LOOK AT, BUT IN THAT PICTURE, YOU'LL SEE VEHICLES ON THE NORTH SIDE PARKED ON THE GRASS AND PARKED ON SIDEWALKS, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO IMPROVE. WE WANT OUR EMPLOYEES TO COME TO WORK AND FEEL PROUD OF WHERE THEY WORK. AND THEN IF YOU FOLLOW CIVITAN DRIVE ALL THE WAY TO THE WESTERN EXIT, YOU HAVE THE CNG STATION OPEN TO OUR FLEET AND TO THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI. SO ON THE MASTER PLAN, WHAT I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT IS THAT THE MASTER PLAN IS A LAYDOWN OF USAGE, LAND USAGE FOR EVERY DEPARTMENT. OVER THE PAST FIVE YEARS, THE CITY HAS EXPERIENCED A LARGE GROWTH IN TERMS OF WORKFORCE AND OPERATIONAL DEMAND ACROSS THE CITY. DEPARTMENTS SUCH AS PUBLIC WORKS, ASSET MANAGEMENT, CCW AND PARKS AND RECS HAVE NOT ONLY INCREASED THEIR WORKFORCE, BUT WE HAVEN'T KEPT UP WITH THAT GROWTH. SO PUBLIC WORKS HAS INCREASED THEIR WORKFORCE BY APPROXIMATELY 29% SINCE FISCAL YEAR 2020. THE FLEET DEPARTMENT CONTINUES TO INCREASE, WHILE THE CITY FLEET HAS INCREASED APPROXIMATELY 3% EVERY YEAR SINCE 2020. AGAIN, LEADING TO HOW WE HAVE VEHICLES BEING BACKED UP, VEHICLES THAT DON'T ACTUALLY FIT IN OUR BAYS DUE TO THE TREMENDOUS SIZE. SO WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS WE WANT TO KEEP UP WITH THIS GROWTH. IT IS ESSENTIAL THAT WE HAVE GROWN TO KEEP UP WITH THE OPERATIONAL DEMAND OF THIS CITY, BUT IT'S ALSO ESSENTIAL FOR US TO MAKE SURE THAT WE KEEP UP WITH OUR GROWTH IN OUR FACILITIES. WHAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY IS WE HAVE FACILITIES THAT ARE OVERLY CROWDED. WE HAVE INEFFICIENT LAYOUTS, OVERLY USED BATHROOMS, AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CLEAR THAT AREA FOR OUR EMPLOYEES TO COME TO WORK AND FEEL COMFORTABLE COMING TO WORK AND ARE MORE EFFICIENT AND EFFECTIVE THROUGHOUT. AS A RESULT, THE CIVITAN MASTER PLAN PROVIDES, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, THAT STRATEGIC FRAMEWORK. IT'S A STRATEGIC FRAMEWORK TO BRING SYNERGY ACROSS ALL DEPARTMENTS TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WE WANT TO DO WITH OUR 85 ACRES. 85 ACRES MIGHT SEEM LARGE TODAY, BUT AS WE START ANTICIPATING CONTINUOUS GROWTH OVER THE NEXT 10 TO 15 YEARS, THAT 85 ACRES MIGHT SEEM -- MIGHT START TO SEEM SMALL FOR A LOT OF OUR OPERATIONS TAKING PLACE. SO THE PLAN IS TO EMPHASIZE THE FOLLOWING: FIRST, SECURITY. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE SECURE THAT COMPOUND AND OUR ASSETS. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE MAINTAIN AND MODERNIZE OUR FACILITIES SO THE FACILITIES ARE SAFE FOR OUR EMPLOYEES, THAT ARE EFFICIENT FOR OUR OPERATIONS AND ARE UP TO ENVIRONMENTAL STANDARDS. WE ALSO WANT TO PROMOTE THROUGH THIS MASTER PLAN VERTICAL EXPANSION, MEANING 85 ACRES HERE IN A FEW YEARS IS GOING TO SEEM SMALL, SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT DEPARTMENTS ARE PLANNING AHEAD OF THAT. FUTURE GROWTH, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? EXPAND UPWARD, VERTICALLY. START BUILDING FACILITIES THAT ARE MULTIFLOOR THAT WE CAN HAVE MULTIPLE DEPARTMENTS OPERATING WITH SYNERGY IN ONE AREA. THESE IMPROVEMENTS COLLECTIVELY IS WHY WE'RE BRINGING THIS MASTER PLAN. FOR THE COUNCIL, THE MAYOR AND THE CITIZENS OF CORPUS CHRISTI TO UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE TRYING TO BE MORE EFFICIENT WITH WHAT WE HAVE WITH OUR SPACE, TRYING TO FIELD THE BEST TEAM WITH THE BEST OPERATIONAL EFFICIENCY THROUGHOUT THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI. SO I'M GOING TO FOCUS QUICKLY ON THE NORTH SIDE AND THEN I'LL GO AND TRANSITION DOWN TO THE NORTH. WHAT I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT IS THE FOLLOWING: THERE ARE MULTIPLE CIP PROJECTS THAT ARE EITHER ALREADY APPROVED FOR FISCAL YEAR '25 AND '26 THAT ARE GOING TO BE BROUGHT FORWARD TO THE COUNCIL. THERE'S OTHERS THAT I STILL DON'T HAVE OVERSIGHT BECAUSE THEY'RE STILL IN THE PLANNING PHASE. EACH DEPARTMENT IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR AREA AND EACH DEPARTMENT WILL BRING FORWARD PROJECTS TO MODERNIZE THEIR FACILITIES. SO I'M GOING TO GIVE OVER -- TOUCH OVER WAY TOPS FOR THESE FOLLOWING PROJECTS. ONE WILL BE BROUGHT TO THE COUNCIL THIS AFTERNOON BY PUBLIC WORKS. THE FIRST ONE I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT IF I CAN ORIENT YOU TO THE MASTER PLAN HERE, THERE'S A COLOR CODE LEGEND, THE FIRST UP NORTH, YOU HAVE PUBLIC WORKS WHERE THEY'RE TRYING TO BRING FORWARD IS PROJECT 22165 WHICH IS A DESIGN OF THEIR NEW ADMINISTRATION OPERATIONS BUILDING. THAT INCLUDES NEW OFFICES, TRAINING ROOMS, CONFERENCE ROOM AND THAT'S GOING TO ALLEVIATE THE CURRENT OVERCROWDING IN THEIR FACILITIES. FOLLOWING -- AND I'M RETIRED ARMY, SO I'M GOING TO USE MY MILITARY TIME. IF YOU FOLLOW THROUGH AT THE 1:00 HERE, YOU HAVE ASSET MANAGEMENT BUILDING. THAT IS A FUTURE BUILDING THAT WE'RE TRYING TO KIND OF PUT TOGETHER TO BRING THAT BUILDING UP TO STANDARD AND BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE THE CURRENT FLEET, SO THAT BUILDING IS STILL IN THE PLANNING PHASE. WE DON'T HAVE A SOLIDIFIED ANSWER ON HOW MUCH THAT'S GOING TO COST, BUT WE ARE LOOKING TO IMPROVE THE FUTURE FACILITY OVER IN FLEET. IF YOU FOLLOW OVER TO YOUR THREE, YOU HAVE PUBLIC WORKS. THERE'S A PROJECT THERE GOING ON RIGHT NOW THAT'S ALREADY COMPLETED DESIGN AND IT'S JUST RENOVATION OF THAT BUILDING AND FUTURE EXPANSIONS OF THEIR FACILITY. AND THEN YOU MOVE ON TO THE BLUE AREA, THAT'S POLICE. AND WHAT THE POLICE IS TRYING TO DO IN THE NEAR FUTURE IS THEIR FORENSIC BUILDING IMPROVEMENT. THE POLICE RADIO SHOP OR RADIO WORKSHOP AND THE FORENSIC VEHICLE STORAGE BUILDING WHICH IS RIGHT THERE THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO IMPROVE. THERE'S A PROJECT ACROSS THE STREET FROM POLICE, AS YOU CAN SEE THERE, IT'S A LITTLE CITY WASH RACK FACILITY THAT WE HAVE ALREADY DESIGNED, WE HAVE 100% SIGN AND SEALED, BUT THAT PROJECT HAS BEEN POSTPONED OBVIOUSLY DUE TO THE CURRENT DROUGHT THAT WE HAVE. AND THEN I'M GOING TO MOVE ON TO THE SOUTH PORTION OF THIS MASTER PLAN. SO THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF THIS MASTER PLAN, THERE ARE MULTIPLE PROJECTS THAT ARE GOING ON IN THE YELLOW AREA HERE STRAIGHT AT YOUR 6:00, YOU HAVE THE ANIMAL CARE FACILITY THAT HAS THREE CIP PROJECTS THAT ARE APPROVED AND THEY'RE LOOKING TO IMPROVE THE CURRENT HVAC, THE WATER THE SYSTEMS IN THERE, IMPROVING THE KENNELS, PUTTING UP-TO-DATE INSULATED DOORS ON DOG KENNELS, AND THEN THEY'RE ALSO LOOKING TO BUILD BRAND-NEW ROOFS ON FIVE BUILDINGS AND CONSTRUCT A DEDICATED WASH BAY FOR THEIR ANIMALS. I WANT TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE OVER TO THE CCW AREA IMMEDIATELY OVER -- LET ME SEE IF I CAN ORIENT YOU HERE, NOT THE LARGE AREA, BUT DIRECTLY NORTH OF THAT, WE HAVE A PROPOSED CCW WAREHOUSE. THAT PROJECT IS SEEKING TO ALLEVIATE THE PRESSURE THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE WITH BOTH DEPARTMENTS SHARING THE CURRENT WAREHOUSE THAT WE HAVE. LIKE I MENTIONED EARLIER, BOTH DEPARTMENTS WANT TO EXPAND THEIR WAREHOUSE OPERATIONS, WE WANT TO BRING SOME OF THAT EQUIPMENT INDOORS, AND IN ORDER TO DO SO, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO CONTINUE IMPROVING SOME OF THE FACILITIES THAT WE HAVE. AND BY THERE, WE HAVE A PROJECT MAYBE IN THE NEAR FUTURE THAT MIGHT BRING ANOTHER WAREHOUSE THAT CCW CAN USE. SO THOSE ARE THE CURRENT PROJECTS. THERE IS A LOT MORE -- THIS PLAN IS A 10- TO 15-YEAR PLAN. WE'RE LOOKING AT A FUTURE BUILDOUT, PUSHING OUT TO 2040. SO, AGAIN, IT'S A STRATEGIC FRAMEWORK FOR DEPARTMENTS TO FOLLOW AND FOLLOWING THIS, I'M PENDING ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR. >> Zanoni: CAN I JUST ADD, MAYOR, THAT WHEN I ACTUALLY INTERVIEWED FOR THE CITY POSITION HERE, PART OF THE TOUR WAS TO SEE THIS CENTER. SO SIX AND A HALF YEARS AGO, BUT, YOU KNOW, IT LOOKED TIRED AND IT'S NOT IDENTIFIABLE, THERE'S NO SIGNAGE. THERE'S CERTAINLY NO SECURITY FOR TAXPAYER FUNDED EQUIPMENT THAT'S LEFT OUT IN THE OPEN. AND SO I'VE ASKED AND I WANT TO THANK JUAN FOR FINALLY GETTING IT PAST THE GOAL LINE. WE'VE ASKED FOR SEVERAL YEARS TO CREATE A MASTER PLAN SO WE CAN BETTER ARRANGE AND USE THE SPACE, UPDATE FACILITIES AS NECESSARY, AND MORE IMPORTANTLY FOR THE TAXPAYER, MAKE SURE OUR ASSETS ARE SAFE. AND SO FENCING AND LIGHTING AND OTHER SECURITY MEASURES ARE ALL PART OF THIS MASTER PLAN. AND THEN MAYBE EVEN MORE IMPORTANT IS THAT THE EMPLOYEES IN SEVEN DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS REPORT TO WORK EVERY DAY OF THE WEEK IN SOME CASES, AND WE WANT THEM TO FEEL PROUD ABOUT COMING INTO THE JOB SITE. THERE'S NO SIGNAGE, VERY AUSTERE CONDITIONS TODAY, SO THE MASTER PLAN IS ACHIEVING SEVERAL OBJECTIVES AND MAKING SURE OUR EMPLOYEES ARE PROUD ABOUT GOING TO WORK, KNOW WHERE THEY'RE GOING, AND THEN MAKING SURE WE'RE PROTECTING TAXPAYER FUNDED ASSETS THAT TODAY ARE KIND OF AT HIGH RISK, SO I JUST WANT TO ADD THAT FOR CONTEXT. >> Mayor Guajardo: THANK YOU, PETER. THANK YOU, GREAT PRESENTATION. TODAY IT'S A MASTER PLAN, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TRYING TO ASH SHEEF -- YOU ALL ARE TRYING TO ACHIEVE IT COMING TO FRUITION OVER A DECADE'S TIME, BUT IT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR US TO HEAR THIS, BECAUSE IT ALLOWS US TO TAKE A REAL COMPREHENSIVE LOOK AT HOW OUR ESSENTIAL OPERATIONS CAN FUNCTION IN A SMARTER, MORE EFFICIENT WAY. THAT'S PROBABLY MY BIGGEST THINGS. AND TO ONE OF PETER'S POINTS, THIS IS MILLIONS, I'M SURE -- MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF EQUIPMENT AND ASSETS THAT WE HAVE THAT ARE KIND OF JUST ALL OVER THE PLACE BASED ON WHAT YOU SHOWED US. SO I THINK THIS IS VERY EDUCATIONAL, INFORMAL -- VERY INFORMATIVE FOR US TO KNOW, SO I REALLY APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION. THANK YOU. >> YES, MA'AM. COUNCILWO MAN CAMPOS? >> Campos: THANK YOU, MAYOR. AND I AGREE. YOU KNOW, AGAIN, I'VE LIVED HERE ALL MY LIFE AND I'VE BEEN GOING TO THAT YARD FOR YEARS AND DECADES, AND IT'S JUST, LIKE -- UGH, TALK ABOUT POTHOLES AND ALL. IT'S JUST -- UGH. I'M SORRY. BUT IT -- I CAN'T BELIEVE THAT THAT BELONGS TO US. IT'S PRETTY BAD. AND -- AND -- AND, YOU KNOW, YOU ONLY GET TO GO THERE EVERY NOW AND THEN. I KNOW FOR ME, I HAD TO GO THERE WHEN THE PARK AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT WAS HELPING US OUT WITH THE WATER, WE WERE GETTING SPIGOTS, AND I'M LIKE, WHERE ARE Y'ALL LOCATED? I'M TELLING YOU, IT'S LIKE A MAZE. AND JUST TRYING TO GET -- MANEUVER THROUGH ALL THAT. AND THEN SEEING ALL THOSE BUILDINGS, THOSE TEMPORARY BUILDINGS AFTER TEMPORARY BUILDING. SO, AGAIN, I'M HOPING THAT THROUGH THIS MASTER PLAN, WE DO INCORPORATE, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, ANY KIND OF ENVIRONMENTAL SUNROOFS, YOU KNOW, WATER CAPTURE, YOU KNOW -- JUST, PLEASE, SO I KNOW THIS IS JUST THE VERY BEGINNING, BUT I AM GRATEFUL THAT YOU DID -- WERE ABLE TO BRING IT TO US AND THAT WE'RE ABLE, AT LEAST, TO GET ON A PATH. SO I APPRECIATE THAT. >> YES, COUNCILWOMAN. COUNCILMA N SCOTT? >> Scott: I THINK ERNIE BROUGHT ME OUT FROM ONE OF OUR FIRST MEETINGS WHEN I CAME BACK ON THE COUNCIL, I THINK IT WAS STRATEGIC. BECAUSE I WENT OUT THERE, NUMBER ONE, I COULDN'T FIND THE BILLING, RIGHT? I KEPT WALKING UP TO STRANGERS, HEY, ARE YOU MY MOMMY? ARE YOU MY MOTHER? WHERE AM I GOING? CAN YOU SEND ME -- I THINK THAT'S WHEN THEY KNEW THEY LIKED ME AND THEY CAME OUTSIDE AND FINALLY GOT ME. JUST HOLD MY HAND, WE'LL TAKE YOU IN THE RIGHT BUILDING. THE SECOND PART WAS, THERE WAS NO PLACE TO PARK. I DROVE AROUND I REALIZED THERE WERE A TON OF CARS ON THE DIRT. I THOUGHT, WELL, MY SUBURBAN LIKES DIRT SO I PARKED ON THE DIRT. I GET IT, I GET THE WHOLE FREE-FOR-ALL PARKING EXPERIENCE. I THOUGHT IT WAS UNSAFE AT THE TIME. I ALSO THOUGHT YOU GUYS DO FANTASTIC WORK AND I WAS SAD AT THE WORKING CONDITIONS BECAUSE YOU HAVE GREAT PEOPLE OUT THERE MAKING A DIFFERENCE. IN THIS INSTANCE, ABOUT STREETS AND INTERSECTIONS. SO, YEAH, YOU HAD ME AT HELLO. AT SOME POINT THERE'S GOING TO BE A GUT CHECK WHEN WE ONLY HAVE $10 TO SPEND. I SUSPECT THIS IS AN EXPENSIVE ENDEAVOR, BUT THE GOOD NEWS IS, WE'VE GOT A BIG CHUNK OF LAND. WE'VE GOT GOOD PLANNERS THAT CAN PUT TOGETHER A PLAN THAT WE CAN KIND OF TAKE BITE-SIZED PIECES OF AND WAKE UP SOME DAY WITH A FACILITY WE'RE PROUD OF. SO ANYWAY, THANKS. ERNIE, THANKS FOR WHAT YOU DO. AND I ACTUALLY DID FIND THE RIGHT BUILDING AND I WOULD AGREE WITH PARKING, WAY FAIRING, THAT IT NEEDS TO GO ON. THANKS. . COUNCILMA N HERNANDEZ? >> Hernandez: OKAY. PETER, HOW ARE WE PAYING FOR THIS S? >> Zanoni: THIS WOULD BE IN A FUTURE BOND PROGRAM. WE HAD SOME SEED MONEY TO DO THE LOCAL PLAN, ICE, A LOCAL ENGINEERING FIRM HELPED US WITH THE DESIGN BUT THERE'S NO FUNDING FOR MUCH OF THE PLAN. WE'LL HAVE TO DO INCREMENTAL AMOUNTS OVER TIME PROBABLY ON A BOND PROGRAM. >> Hernandez: YOU KNOW, I PULLED OUT THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN, RIGHT, BECAUSE THIS IS WHERE ALL THE INFORMATION IS. >> Zanoni: YEP. >> Hernandez: OR AT LEAST I THOUGHT IT WAS, BUT IT'S NOT. SO THERE'S -- YOU KNOW, LIKE THERE'S THINGS THAT AREN'T FUNDED YET, WE'RE NOT SURE WHERE IT'S GOING TO BE FUNDED FROM. THERE'S SOME THAT SAY CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION, THERE'S SOME THAT ARE, LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE THE PUBLIC WORKS ONE IS ACTUALLY UNDER STORMWATER, WHICH WOULD BE A REVENUE BOND AND NOT A GENERAL OBLIGATION BOND. >> Zanoni: RIGHT. >> Hernandez: SO I THINK WHAT I'D LIKE TO SEE FROM THE MASTER PLAN IS KIND OF ALL THIS IN ONE SPOT. >> Zanoni: RIGHT. >> Hernandez: WHAT THE PROJECTS ARE, WHERE THE FUNDING SOURCE IS GOING TO COME FROM, HOW MUCH IT'S GOING TO COST, THAT WAY WE HAVE GOOD VISIBILITY TO IT. THIS IS ALL NICE AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S A GREAT PRESENTATION, NOTHING BAD ABOUT IT, BUT IT REALLY -- IT'S NOT REALLY GOOD FOR DECISION MAKING. THIS IS KIND OF LIKE, OKAY, PIE IN THE SKY STUFF, BUT WE HAVE LOTS OF OBLIGATIONS TO THE CITIZENS. WE HAVE STREETS THAT STILL NEED TO BE FIXED, WE HAVE PUBLIC FACILITIES THAT STILL NEED TO BE FIXED, WE HAVE A LOT OF DEBT, RIGHT. AND SO THERE'S A BALANCING ACT BETWEEN GETTING THE STUFF THAT WE NEED AND -- SO YOU NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS PLAN IS WELL THOUGHT OUT OVER A LONG PERIOD OF TIME SO THAT WE'RE FISCALLY -- WE'RE LIVING FISCALLY RESPONSIBLY IN TERMS OF HOW WE GET THESE THINGS -- THE NICE THINGS TO HAVE, LIKE YOU STILL HAVE THE CAR WASH IN HERE. >> Zanoni: UH-HUH. >> Hernandez: BUT IT'S IMPORTANT TO LAY THAT OUT WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE OVER TIME. >> Zanoni: RIGHT. >> Hernandez: I THINK THIS IS NOT A SHORT-TERM PROJECT, THIS IS GOING TO BE LIKE A 20-YEAR PROJECT. >> WE'RE LOOKING AT 10 TO 15 YEARS. IT REALLY JUST DEPENDS. BUT IF I MAY ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS, SIR, THIS IS A STRATEGIC FRAMEWORK. THIS IS TRYING TO GET EVERY DEPARTMENT THAT HAS SOME SORT OF OPERATION TAKING PLACE INSIDE THE SERVICE CENTER ON ONE PLAN, ONE IDEA. WHY? THE REASON IS WE DON'T WANT ANYONE TO START PLANNING ANY FUTURE PROJECTS THAT DON'T PROVIDE SYNERGY TO THE OVERALL OPERATIONS OF THE SERVICE CENTER. THIS IS -- RIGHT NOW, THERE ARE PROJECTS THAT I HAVE LABELED THAT WE HAVE NOT EVEN SAT DOWN TO START PLANNING YET. SO I CAN'T BRING THOSE TO YOU OR PROVIDE YOU A FRAMEWORK OF WHAT THE IDEA BEHIND THE CONCEPT IS, AND THE REASON BEING IS, THIS PLAN IS A LIVING, BREATHING DOCUMENT. IT CAN CHANGE. THERE'S A THOUGHT PROCESS THAT WE MIGHT GET TO A LEVEL OF INCREASE IN OUR WORKLOAD OR WE MIGHT NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE SPACE, AND THAT'S WHERE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO START BUILDING VERTICALLY INSTEAD OF SPRAWLING OUT. THAT'S WHY I DIDN'T MENTION THE CCW BUILDING, BECAUSE THAT IS STILL IN THE INFANCY OF PLANNING, OF BRINGING MORE DEPARTMENTS TOGETHER UNDER ONE ROOF. SO WE CAN PROVIDE NOT ONLY THE SAME RESOURCE OR COORDINATING IN THE SAME BUILDING, SAME ROOM, AND ALLEVIATING SOME SPACE INSIDE THE SERVICE CENTER FOR FUTURE GROWTH AND FUTURE OPERATIONS. SO THERE ARE A LOT OF PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE THOUGHT OUT, AND YOU'RE RIGHT, WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE TO YOU DOCUMENTATION OR MAYBE WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY THINKING SO YOU CAN VISUALIZE IT WITH US. BUT THAT'S WHY WE WANTED TO PROVIDE A FRAMEWORK INITIALLY TO EVERY DEPARTMENT, SO WE'RE NOT JUST PLANNING AS INDIVIDUALS IN A VACUUM AND BRINGING FORWARD A PLAN THAT MIGHT NOT ULTIMATELY LEAD US TO WHAT WE WANT TO ACHIEVE HERE IN THE NEXT 15 TO 20 YEARS. >> Hernandez: OKAY. >> Zanoni: YEAH, COUNCILMAN, LET ME JUST ADD REAL QUICK, SO WHAT YOU SAID IS THE NEXT STEP. SO THIS IS STEP 1. AND THE REASON WE'VE -- WE'RE NOT -- THE STEP YOU WANT US TO GET TO, WE'RE NOT QUITE READY TO, BUT THERE IS AN AGENDA ITEM ON A STORMWATER FUNDED FACILITY, SO AT THE REQUEST OF COUNCIL, WAS SHOWING YOU THIS OVERALL MASTER PLAN. BUT JUST AS YOU SAID FOR THIS NEXT COMING CAPITAL BUDGET, WE'LL START PUTTING THE NEXT STEP TO THIS PLAN TOGETHER, WHICH IS FUTURISTIC PLANS FOR WHAT GETS DONE FIRST, SECOND, WHAT ARE THE POTENTIAL FUNDING SOURCES. SO THAT'S COMING. THIS IS ADMITTEDLY JUST STEP 1 WOWTD ALL THE DE -- WITHOUT ALL THE DETAIL. THAT WILL START COMING NOW IN THE COMING MONTHS WHICH BILL BE FOR THE NEXT CAPITAL BUDGET. >> Hernandez: I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS REALISTICALLY. WE DON'T WANT THE WATER COLOR ARCHITECTURE TO GET US ALL MOTIVATED AND JUMPING UP AND DOWN. WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE'RE GROUNDED IN FISCAL REALITY OF WHERE WE'RE AT. >> Zanoni: EXACTLY. THAT'S THE NEXT STEP COMING. >> Hernandez: OKAY. THANK YOU. COUNCILMA N CANTU. >> Cantu: THANK YOU. I SUPPORT THIS PROJECT. I THINK FROM WHAT I'VE SEEN IT'S VERY, VERY IT'S UGLY OUT THERE. IT'S A WAR ZONE, FOR SURE. >> YES, IT IS. >> Cantu: COUNCILWOMAN CAMPOS WAS RIGHT, I MEAN, IT'S JUST -- THE STREETS ARE BAD, I MEAN, THERE'S NO SIGNS OUT THERE. JUST -- I CAN'T BELIEVE WE OWN THAT. AND LOOK AT THIS CHAMBERS, THIS IS BEAUTIFUL. I'M GOING TO SAY IT, WE CAN'T FORGET ABOUT THE ANIMAL SHELTER. WE NEED MORE KENNELS. AND THIS COUNCIL MUST DO SOMETHING ON THAT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE BECAUSE EVERY DAY, THEY'RE KILLING ANIMALS. WE'VE GOT TO BUILD SOME KENNELS OUT THERE OR SOMETHING, TOO, YOU KNOW. WE'VE GOT TO -- WE'VE GOT TO HELP THOSE ANIMALS. BUT I -- I LIKE THIS. I THINK OUR EMPLOYEES NEED TO, YOU KNOW, GO IN THERE AND FEEL GOOD ABOUT IT, YOU KNOW. >> YES, SIR. >> Cantu: AND PARKING IN THE GRASS OR DIRT ROADS, WHATEVER THEY'RE PARKING ON, IT'S PRETTY CRAZY. BUT -- THANK YOU. >> YES, SIR. >> Mayor Guajardo: THANK YOU. OKAY. MR. IBARRA, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION. AGAIN, WE APPRECIATE IT. AT THIS TIME, IT'S 1:31. SO THE COUNCIL'S GOING TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION ON ITEMS 22 THROUGH 25 PER TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTIONS 551.071, 551.07 GO, AND 551.074. WE WILL RETURN. [CITY COUNCIL IN EXECUTIVE SESSION] [EXECUTIVE SESSION] [EXECUTIVE SESSION] [EXECUTIVE SESSION] >> Mayor Guajardo: OKAY. WE'RE GOING TO CALL THIS MEETING BACK TO ORDER AND MOVE ALONG WITH OUR AGENDA, WE LEFT OFF ON SECTION M, INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION ITEMS 19 THROUGH 21. ITEM NUMBER 19 IS A MOTION AUTHORIZING A PROFESSIONAL SERVICES CONTRACTED WITH RICHTER ARCHITECTS OF CORPUS CHRISTI TO PROVIDE DESIGN, BID AND CONSTRUCTION PHASE SERVICES FOR THE NEW PUBLIC WORKS FACILITY. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, ERNIE DE LA GARZA, INTERIM ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER AND PUBLIC WORKS. TODAY WE BRING A CONTRACT WITH RICHTER ARCHITECTS TO PROVIDE DESIGN, BID AND CONSTRUCTION PHASE SERVICES IN AN AMOUNT UP TO $1.4 MILLION. I ALSO HAVE JEFF EDMONDS WITH ME HERE. I'M GOING TO PROVIDE PURPOSE AND NEED OF THE FACILITY AND JEFF CAN SPEAK TO THE PROCUREMENT AND THE ENGINEERING. SO THE OVERALL FOOTPRINT, AS YOU SEE THERE CROSSHATCH ON THE RIGHT AS MENTIONED EARLIER IN THE CIVITAN MASTER PLAN, THAT AREA OF GRASS THERE IS WHERE THE FUTURE FACILITIES IS TO BE PLACED. WE HAVE 306 EMPLOYEES, AND THE NEED FOR THE FACILITY, OF COURSE, IS BECAUSE OF THE INCREASE IN EMPLOYEES. IF YOU RECALL THE HISTORY OF THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT IS A MERGING OF THE TRAFFIC DEPARTMENT, THE STREETS DEPARTMENT AND THEN WHAT USED TO BE STORMWATER WITH CCW. WHEN THIS TEAM WAS BROUGHT TOGETHER, WE REALLY NEVER RECONCILED THE FACILITIES AND THE NEEDED AREA FOR THE EQUIPMENT AND THE EMPLOYEES, SO CURRENTLY AS IT STANDS, PUBLIC WORKS HAS EMPLOYEES LOCATED AT CITY HALL. SOME ARE LOCATED AT SOLID WASTE, SOME ARE ALSO LOCATED IN PARKS DEPARTMENT AS WELL. SOME OF THE LEGACY MOWING TEAMS ARE STILL AT THE PARKS DEPARTMENT, HOUSED OUT OF THERE, AND THEN, OF COURSE, THE TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT CENTER, THEY'RE IN PUBLIC WORKS. SO WE'RE QUITE SPREAD OUT. AND THE PURPOSE IS, OF COURSE, TO COLOCATE ALL OUR TEAMS SO THAT WE CAN PROVIDE BETTER EFFICIENCY WHILE WE'RE WORKING TO PROVIDE SERVICES FOR THE CITY. IT'S RIGHT NOW STANDS AT A 25,000 SQUARE FOOT FACILITY, TWO STORY BUILDING FOR THAT FOOTPRINT, AND THEN THIS NEW BUILDING WILL BE ATTACHED TO THE EXISTING PUBLIC WORKS BUILDING. THE REASON THAT WE'RE DOING THAT IS IT IS ATTACHED TO WHAT WE CALL OUR TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT CENTER. SOME OF Y'ALL HAVE VISITED OUR PUBLIC WORKS FACILITY, BUT THE INTENT IS SO THAT YOU HAVE A CATEGORY 4 AND CATEGORY 3 ATTACHED TO EACH OTHER, MAINLY FOR EMERGENCY RESPONSE. OUR GOAL IS TO HAVE OUR RIDEOUT TEAMS THERE DURING A HURRICANE. WE WOULD HAVE ALL OF OUR, WHAT WE CALL, OUR FIRST RESPONDERS, TO A HURRICANE COMING INTO TOWN, WE WOULD SHELTER IN PLACE, WE WOULD STAY THERE AND THEN MOBILIZE IMMEDIATELY AFTER A HURRICANE MAKES LANDFALL, SO THAT'S THE INTENT OF THE DESIGN AND THE REASON WE PUT TWO BUILDINGS TOGETHER LIKE THAT. OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, THE BUILDING MAINLY IS TO INCLUDE OFFICES RESTROOMS SHOWERS IN ADDITION TO OFFICE SPACE THAT OUR ADMINISTRATIVE TEAM WILL BE PART OF. AND, AGAIN, WE'D LIKE TO BRING OUR RIGHT OF WAY INSPECTORS BACK FROM CITY HALL BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE WE GET A LOT OF THE RIGHT OF WAY PERMITS COMING INTO EARLY ASSISTANCE WITH US AT THE PUBLIC WORKS OFFICE. IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE HAVE SPOKEN ABOUT THE PARKING LOT NEEDS, AND THEN THE ADDITION OF SACKY PARK. THESE ARE JUST SOME PICTURES JUST TO SHOW YOU, YOU KNOW, THE STATE OF OUR AFFAIRS THERE AT PUBLIC WORKS. YOU KNOW, WE DO NOT HAVE MUCH PLACE FOR STORAGE. THIS IS THE SOLID WASTE FACILITY THERE WHERE ALL OUR OPERATIONS FOLKS HANG OUT. WE DO SHARE SPACES. WE HAVE TECHNICAL STAFF THAT WILL -- WHAT WE CALL HOTELING, THEY REALLY DON'T HAVE A PLACE TO WORK, SO THEY'LL GO LOG IN, CHECK THEIR E-MAIL, AND THEN THEY'LL GIVE THAT SPACE TO SOMEBODY ELSE. BUT THERE'S REALLY NOWHERE FOR THESE INDIVIDUALS TO PUT THEIR PERSONAL BELONGINGS, THEIR PPE JUST KIND OF GETS ALL STACKED THERE ON THE SIDE. YOU KNOW, WE MAKE IT WORK. I THINK WE'VE SEEN THE WORK THAT PUBLIC WORKS PROVIDES TO THE CITY, AND SO WITH THESE FACILITIES, WE STILL PROVIDE THE SERVICES THAT I BELIEVE ARE OUTSTANDING, BUT, YOU KNOW, THE -- WE ARE AT CAPACITY IN A LOT OF INSTANCES. OUR ENGINEERING TEAM ALSO HAS A PORTABLE BUILDING IN THE BACK. WE HAVE 12 PEOPLE IN A PORTABLE BUILDING. THESE ARE THE INDIVIDUALS THAT SAVE THE CITY HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS BY DOING DESIGN IN-HOUSE AND NOT GOING TO A CONSULTANT, AND YOU HAVE ABOUT FOUR OR FIVE LICENSED PROFESSIONALS IN STANDUP DESKS STANDING NEXT TO EACH OTHER, AND THEY'VE CHOSEN TO WORK AT PUBLIC WORKS AND STILL PROVIDE THE MISSION AT HAND. THE SCHEDULE THAT WE HAVE ANTICIPATED FOR THIS DESIGN IS ONE YEAR OF DESIGN AND ONE YEAR OF CONSTRUCTION, AND, OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, THIS REFLECTS AWARD DESIGN IN FEBRUARY OF 2027. AND WITH THAT, I STAND BY FOR ANY QUESTIONS. >> Mayor Guajardo: OKAY. I DON'T SEE ANY QUESTIONS. COUNCILMAN HERNANDEZ? YES, I DO. >> Hernandez: OKAY. SO IS THIS SPECIFICALLY FOR STORMWATER ONLY? >> De La Garza: NO, IT'S FOR EVERYBODY. >> Hernandez: IT'S BEING PAID FOR BY THE STORMWATER FUND. >> De La Garza: RIGHT. >> Hernandez: WHY ARE WE NOT SEPARATING THAT OUT IF IT'S NOT JUST FOR STORMWATER. >> De La Garza: WE DON'T HAVE ANY STREET FUNDS TO PUT TOWARDS IT. OTHERWISE, WE WOULD. HERNANDEZ OKAY. >> Hernandez: OKAY. YOU SEE THE PROBLEM HERE, WE'RE HAVING STORMWATER PAY FOR THE ENTIRE FACILITY WHEN IT'S NOT GOING TO BE USED FOR STORMWATER. >> De La Garza: WELL, STORMWATER WILL BE IN THERE. YOU'LL HAVE STORMWATER TEAM IN THERE AS WELL AS STREETS. >> Hernandez: SO THIS IS JUST FOR THE DESIGN. WHAT ABOUT THE CONSTRUCTION? WILL IT JUST BE STORMWATER? >> De La Garza: IT WILL BE REVENUE BONDS. THAT'S ALL WE HAVE RIGHT NOW. >> Zanoni: THAT'S THE PLAN IN THE CIP BUDGET, COUNCILMAN. >> Hernandez: I SEE THAT. THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING THE QUESTION. >> Zanoni: RIGHT. >> Hernandez: SO I APPRECIATE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO PAY FOR STUFF, BUT, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE SHOULD -- IF WE'RE GOING TO BE TAKING THIS MONEY AWAY FROM STORMWATER AND NOT BEING UTILIZED ON ACTUAL STORMWATER PROJECTS FOR A FACILITY THAT DOES MORE THAN JUST STORMWATER, I MAY HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THAT. BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S NOT JUST FOR THAT. WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO WITH THE EXISTING BUILDINGS? >> De La Garza: WE'RE GOING TO USE THEM. NOT THE -- THE SOLID WASTE IS GOING AWAY. THAT'S GOING TO GET DEMOED. ONCE SOLID WASTE THEY GET THEIR BUILDING AT THE TRANSFER STATION. >> Hernandez: OKAY. BECAUSE IF THIS -- IF WE WERE DOING THIS OUT OF THE -- YOU KNOW, BECAUSE PUBLIC WORKS ISN'T JUST STORMWATER. IT'S STORMWATER AND STREET OPERATION TRAFFIC, THERE WOULD ALSO BE A C COMPONENT HERE OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND WHICH WOULD BE A GENERAL OBLIGATION BOND. I THINK WE'VE GOT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT PERCENTAGES OF WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE. BECAUSE STORMWATER HAS A LIMITED BUDGET, RIGHT? IT DOESN'T -- YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT LIKE WATER OR WASTEWATER THAT HAS THESE HUGE, LARGER BUDGETS. I MEAN, IT'S, WHAT, 33, $34 MILLION. >> De La Garza: 32.1, YES, SIR. >> Hernandez: SO THERE'S NOT A LOT OF EXTRA FUNDING, YOU KNOW, FOR BUILDINGS WITHIN THAT STORMWATER BUDGET. OUR WATER BUDGET IS, WHAT, 180 MILLION, WASTEWATER IS SOMEWHERE IN THE 90 MILLION RANGE. >> De La Garza: RIGHT. >> Hernandez: I WANT TO BE VERY CAUTIOUS ON HOW WE USE THIS FUNDING IN TERMS OF HOW WE, YOU KNOW, MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS. YOU KNOW, I EVEN HAVE SOME ISSUES WITH HOW -- YOU KNOW, OF -- I SEE SOME STORMWATER GUYS TRIMMING TREES. I WANT TO BE VERY SPECIFIC ON THIS, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF MONEY, AND THEN THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF UPWARD PRESSURE ON THE -- ON THAT PARTICULAR UTILITY. >> De La Garza: CORRECT. >> Hernandez: IN TERMS OF FUNDING. SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE UTILIZING IT WISELY. THIS SHOULD BE A COMPOSITE OF STORMWATER AND PUBLIC WORKS FUNDING, OR OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND. PETER, WHAT ARE KREUR THOUGHTS HERE? >> Zanoni: YEAH, WE CAN LOOK AT THAT, COUNCILMAN. SO WE CAN GET THE PERCENTAGE OF HOW MUCH STORMWATER, OF COURSE, ADMINISTRATION WOULD BE SHARED BETWEEN, YOU KNOW, STREETS TRAFFIC STORMWATER. IT'S JUST THE CONSTRUCTION SCHEDULE, THE BUDGET SCHEDULED FOR '27, '28, SO WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME IF WE WANT TO SHARE IT IN A BOND PROGRAM. WE TRY NOT TO RECOMMENDER COS ANYMORE, SO IT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE IN A BOND PROGRAM. >> Hernandez: RIGHT. SO THIS IS COMPLETELY BEING FUNDED BY STORMWATER. >> Zanoni: CORRECT. AND THAT WOULD BE -- THE PRIMARY PURPOSE OF IT IS BECAUSE OF THE STORMWATER CREW, OR TEAM, THAT IS NEWER AND DON'T HAVE AN OFFICE, BUT IT WOULD ADD ADDITIONAL SPACE FOR SOME OF THE EXISTING PUBLIC WORKS FOLKS. >> Hernandez: SO STORMWATER RIGHT NOW IN THE OLD SOLID WASTE BUILDING. >> De La Garza: YES. YES SIR. STORMWATER AND THE STREETS TEAM AND THE TRAFFIC TEAM, WE'RE ALL TOGETHER. THERE'S NOWHERE ELSE FOR US TO GO. THAT'S WHY EVERYBODY'S TOGETHER. >> Hernandez: I GOT YOU. I'M LOOKING AT BUDGETS HERE, RIGHT? YOU KNOW, HOW YOU ACTUALLY OPERATE YOUR TEAMS ARE NOT -- YOU KNOW, THAT'S -- I JUST -- I'M JUST LOOKING AT HOW WE PAY FOR THIS. >> De La Garza: RIGHT. >> Hernandez: AND WHERE THIS MONEY IS COMING FROM. SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE DOING THIS THE RIGHT WAY, BECAUSE THERE'S -- I MEAN, THERE'S LIMITED FUNDS IN THE STORMWATER BUDGET, SO... OKAY. THANK YOU. >> Zanoni: WE'LL LOOK INTO IT, COUNCILMAN. AND HAVE -- >> Hernandez: ALSO. SORRY MAYOR. YOU HAD MENTIONED THAT YOU HAD WANTED THIS TO BE A HURRICANE BUNKER. >> De La Garza: RIGHT, RATED FOR HURRICANES. RIGHT NOW THE TMC IS RATED FOR CATEGORY 3. WE WOULD LIKE THIS ONE TO ALSO BE RATED FOR A CATEGORY 4. WHAT WE DID LAST TIME IS -- I BELIEVE IT WAS BERYL, WE WERE GOING TO MOBILIZE AND SET UP OUR EQUIPMENT IN FRONT OF THE DOME IN CALALLEN, AND WE BROUGHT OWL ALL OF OUR RIDEOUT TEAMS THERE, BUT IT WOULD HAVE BEEN EASIER IF WE COULD HAVE STAYED WITH OUR EQUIPMENT. IT WAS AN EFFORT THAT WE HAD TO UNDERTAKE. >> Hernandez: OKAY. AND, PETER, THIS MIGHT BE A POLICY, YOU KNOW, THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT SYSTEMWIDE HERE, BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE EVERYTHING YOU'RE BRINGING TO US IS GOING -- IS LIKE A CONCRETE BUNKER. AND NOTHING IS, YOU KNOW, DESIGNED LESS THAN THAT. YOU KNOW, CONCRETE BUILDINGS THAT CAN WITHSTAND, I GUESS, CATEGORY 4 OR 5 HURRICANES HERE, AND I GET WE WANT TO HAVE SOME OF THESE THINGS, BUT THOSE THINGS HAVE A COST TO THEM. SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF, LIKE, WHAT NEEDS TO BE, YOU KNOW, HURRICANE SHELTER AND WHAT DOESN'T NEED TO BE. >> Zanoni: RIGHT. >> Hernandez: OKAY. BECAUSE EVERYTHING -- EVEN IF THE WAREHOUSE THAT WASTEWATER CAME TO US BUILT ON GREENWOOD WAS THE SAME THING, THE POLICE TRAINING ACADEMY WAS THE SAME THING. I MEAN -- >> Zanoni: YEAH, THE POLICE TRAINING ACADEMY. I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THE WAREHOUSE, BUT THAT ONE WE LOOKED AT ALTERNATIVE AND AT THE TIME THE PRICE FOR STEELE WOULD HAVE BEEN THE SAME COST FOR THE CONCRETE WALL, PRETTY CLOSE TO IT, THAT RAMIREZ HAD DESIGNED AT THE TIME. SO IT'S NOT -- WE DON'T HAVE A STRATEGY THAT SAYS EVERYTHING'S BUNKER, CONCRETE OR CATEGORY 4 RATED. IT DEPENDS ON THE MARKET AND THE DESIGN FIRM AND -- >> Hernandez: OKAY, BUT THAT SHOULD BE GIVEN TO THE ARCHITECT ON THE FRONT SIDE. >> Zanoni: RIGHT HERNANDEZ WE WANT THIS TO BE HURRICANE RATED OR, YOU KNOW, CONCRETE BUNKER WHERE WE CAN SURVIVE A CATEGORY 4 HURRICANE OR NOT. >> Zanoni: RIGHT. . >> Hernandez: YOU NEED TO TELL THAT TO THE ARCHITECT, DON'T LET THEM MAKE THE DECISION. THANK YOU, SIR. COUNCILWOMAN VAUGHN? >> Vaughn: SO YOU HAVE AN EXISTING BUILDING THAT YOU'RE GOING TO ADD TO THIS 25,000 SQUARE FEET BUILDING, CORRECT? >> De La Garza: YES, MA'AM. >> Vaughn: HOWG IS THE EXISTING BUILDING. >> De La Garza: IT'S 600 SQUARE FEET AND IT'S AN ADDITIONAL 800 SQUARE FEET OF WAREHOUSE. >> Zanoni: COUNCILWOMAN, I'M NOT SURE IF -- LET ME JUST MAKE SURE WE HEAR YOUR QUESTION RIGHT. THE EXISTING BUILDING THEY'RE IN TODAY WOULD BE DEMOLISHED, BECAUSE IT'S NOT SUITABLE. ONCE THIS BUILDING'S BUILT -- IS THAT WHAT YOU SAID. >> De La Garza: I THOUGHT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT CONNECTING TO. >> Vaughn: WHATEVER THE CONNECTING ONE. I KNOW THAT SOLID WASTE IS GOING TO BE DEMOED. THE ONE THAT'S CONNECTED, I WAS ASKING HOW BIG IT WAS YOU'RE KEEPING. DELEGATION 600 SQUARE FEET AND THEN WE HAVE A WAREHOUSE ABOUT 800 NEXT TO IT AND ATTACHED TO THAT WOULD BE THIS BUILDING. >> Vaughn: I REALIZE YOU NEED IT. IT JUST SEEMS EXTREMELY BIG. 25,000 SQUARE FEET. WHY? >> De La Garza: 70 PEOPLE, MA'AM. >> Vaughn: HOW MANY? >> De La Garza: 70 PEOPLE. I'VE TAKEN COUNCILWOMAN CAMPOS ON THE TOUR OF EVERYBODY JAM PACKED. >> Vaughn: ARE THEY ALL IN THERE AT THE SAME TIME? ARE THEY ALL MANAGERS WHERE THEY ALL NEED OFFICES. >> De La Garza: WE HAVE OUR LEADERSHIP TEAM, OUR RIGHT OF WAY TEAM, OUR SIGN FABRICATION TEAM, ENGINEERING TEAM, ALL OF THEM IN A -- >> Vaughn: OH, I'M SURE IT'S CROWDED. >> De La Garza: AND THEN NEXT DOOR WE HAVE OUR FINANCE TEAM AND OUR HR TEAM AND OUR ADMIN TEAM. >> Vaughn: OUT OF THIS 25,000 SQUARE FEET, HOW MUCH OF IT IS GOING TO BE WAREHOUSE. >> De La Garza: NONE OF IT. >> Vaughn: THIS IS ALL OFFICE SPACE? THAT'S A BIG OFFICE SPACE FOR 70 PEOPLE. >> De La Garza: IT'S GOING TO BE 70 TO 100. >> Vaughn: STILL A BIG OFFICE SPACE. YOU'RE TELLING ME, DO THEY ALL GET A BIG OFFICE, OR THEY GET A CUBA CUBICLE. >> De La Garza: YOU HAVE ABOUT 40 THAT COME IN THE MORNING, TECHNICAL STAFF, CHECK THEIR E-MAILS, THEY'RE USING WHAT WE CALL HOTELING, THEN THEY MOBILIZE AND GO OUT AND COME BACK AT THE END OF THE DAY. THOSE ARE WORK COORDINATORS, FOREMEN SUPERINTENDENTS MANAGERS. WE HAVE 305 PEOPLE, SO WE DO TAKE UP A LOT OF SPACE. >> Zanoni: BUT COUNCILWOMAN, THESE WOULD BE MORE THAN JUST OFFICE SPACE. SHOWERS, LOCKER ROOMS. A LOT OF THEM DO -- THEY'RE WORKING IN THE HEAT OF THE SUMMER, ESPECIALLY IN STORMWATER, SO A PLACE FOR THEM TO TAKE A SHOWER, HAVE A LOCKER ROOM. ERNIE IS KEY IN LOGISTICS FOR ANY TYPE OF NATURAL EVENT, AND SO THERE WOULD BE A COMMAND-TYPE CENTER, A WAR ROOM OF SORTS WHERE HE CAN COMMAND TEAMS TO MOBILIZE AFTER A HURRICANE OR SOME TYPE OF COLD-WEATHER EVENT. >> Vaughn: OKAY. >> Zanoni: LARGE CONFERENCE ROOMS WHERE HE CAN MEET WITH HIS TEAM. THAT'S ONE OF OUR PROBLEMS IN OUR CITY THERE'S KNOW PLACE BIG ENOUGH TO MEET WITH THE TEAM. SO OFTEN THE TEAM -- LIKE THE DEPARTMENT STRUGGLES TO IDENTIFY WHAT IS THE TEAM MISSION BECAUSE WE CAN'T EVEN GET THEM TOGETHER TO TELL YOU WHAT THE TEAM MISSION IS. >> Vaughn: YEAH. >> De La Garza: IT'S A GOOD POINT. >> Zanoni: SO IT'S A LOT MORE THAN JUST THE OFFICES WOULD PROBABLY BE THE LEAST AMOUNT OF SPACE WHEN YOU START DISSECTING IT. >> De La Garza: TO THE POINT, WITH EVE HAD A SAFETY STAND DOWN. I'VE HAD TO CALL CCISD TO BORROW THE BLEACHERS SO WE CAN HAVE THAT TEAM MEETING, SO WE WILL GO AND BRING EVERYBODY ON THE BLEACHERS, I'LL SET UP THE PA SYSTEM, WE'LL HAVE OUR SAFETY MEETING, AND THEN AFTERWARDS WE'LL MOBILIZE FROM THERE. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO IN CITY FACILITIES. >> Vaughn: YEAH, I AGREE. >> Zanoni: RADIO SHOP, YOUR 24 HOUR -- WHAT DO WE CALL IT. >> De La Garza: YEAH, RTMC. >> Zanoni: THEY HAVE A 24 HOUR PHONE LINE THAT SOMEBODY'S STATIONING IT ALL THE TIME IN CASE THERE'S AN EVENT. THERE'S A PHONE CENTER OF SORTS, CONFERENCE ROOM, SHOWER ROOMS, LOGISTIC TYPE ROOMS. >> Vaughn: I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR WHEN THE PUBLIC HEARS 25,000 SQUARE FEET, THEY'RE GOING TO SAY WHOA. >> Zanoni: YEAH. >> Vaughn: I THINK THOSE THINGS ADDED ARE VERY IMPORTANT TO SAY. >> Zanoni: JUST FOR THE COUNCIL'S RECORD, BUT WE DON'T HAVE A SUITABLE EVEN EMERGENCY OPERATION CENTER. >> Vaughn: I KNOW. >> Zanoni: WE'RE -- BUILDING ON THE THIRD FLOOR THAT'S NOT EVEN CATEGORY RATED. >> Vaughn: YEAH. >> Zanoni: THIS PUTS ONE OF THE KEY DEPARTMENTS IN AN EMERGENCY IN A SUITABLE BUILDING TO MANAGE CATASTROPHE FOR THE REASON. >> Vaughn: THAT'S IMPORTANT. I GET IT. I GET IT. THANK YOU. >> De La Garza: THANK YOU. >> Mayor Guajardo: ERNIE, THANK YOU. AT THIS TIME I'M GOING TO ASK FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEM NUMBER 19. IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE COMMENT ON 19. THERE BEING NO ONE, WE'LL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT. AND I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM NUMBER 19. >> I MAKE A MOTION. >> Mayor Guajardo: OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND. >> SECOND. >> Mayor Guajardo: WE HAVE A SECOND. PLEASE SUBMIT YOUR VOTE. >> City Secretary: FOR THE RECORD, MRS. PAXSON VOTED AYE. >> Mayor Guajardo: MOTION CARRIES. ITEM NUMBER 20 IS AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING EXECUTION OF A 40-YEAR LEASE AGREEMENT WITH DLUGOSCH III, LLC, D/B/A THE TEXAN STORES WITH ONE ADDITIONAL 10-YEAR OPTION TO RENEW FOR 8 ACRES AT THE CORPUS CHRISTI INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT TO CONSTRUCT AND OPERATE A CONVENIENCE STORE AND FUELING STAITIONZ. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, RICHARD MCCURLY, DIRECTOR OF AVIATION, AND HERE FOR THE ORDINANCE APPROVING THE LEASE AGREEMENT. SO FOR THE TEXANS LEASE AGREEMENT, IT'S A PROPERTY DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITY, IT WILL BE A 40-YEAR OPERATE AT THEIR FIRST CORPUS CHRISTI LOCATION. IT WILL BE EIGHT ACRES AT THE AIRPORT'S MAIN ENTRANCE. THERE WILL BE A 50-FOOT OFFSET OFF OF INTERNATIONAL DRIVE TO KEEP A LANDSCAPING BUFFER ZONE. 12,000 SQUARE FOOT FUELING STATION AND 196 PARKING SPACES AND 32 PU PUMPS . OVERVIEW OF OUR PROPERTY. WE HAVE 2600 ACRES OF PROPERTY AT THE AIRPORT. WITH THAT 2600 WE HAVE 800 ESTIMATED ACRES OF NON-AERONAUTICAL AVAILABLE ACRES. 780 ESTIMATED AERONAUTICAL ACRES FOR DEVELOPMENT. THE LAST DEVELOPMENT WAS THE COAST GUARD FACILITY IN 2016. SO, BY MAKING OUR AIRPORT MORE COST-EFFECTIVE THROUGH DIVERSIFIED REVENUE STREAMS, WE LOWER OUR COST PER ENPLANEMENT MAKING IT MORE ATTRACTIVE FOR AIRLINES. IF WE CAN LOWER THE COST, WE CAN GET NEW ROUTES, WHICH MEANS THOSE NONSTOP ROUTES TO TWO OTHER CITIES. WE ALSO DID SOME ANALYSIS AND WE FOUND THAT THERE'S 29,800 VEHICLES THAT TRAVEL DAILY ON HIGHWAY 44. IN COMPARISON TO PORTLAND, THEY HAVE APPROXIMATELY 36,500 VEHICLES ON THAT ROADWAY. THERE WAS A QUESTION PREVIOUSLY ON WAS THIS IN OUR MASTER PLAN. REVIEW OF OUR 2007 MASTER PLAN, IT WAS LOCATED IN CHAPTER 5, PAGES 533-534. CURRENTLY IN OUR UPDATED MASTER PLAN THAT WE'RE GOING THROUGH, THE REVISION AND UPDATE, IT IS BEING RECOMMENDED. AND THAT'S THE CURRENT DRAFT TO THE RIGHT. THE MAP. TERMS AND FINANCIAL OVERVIEW. FOR THE AIRPORT, OVER 40 YEARS, IF YOU DON'T USE ANY ESCALATIONS, YOU TAKE IT AT OUR CURRENT VALUES, WE WILL RECEIVE $6 MILLION OVER THE NEXT 40 YEARS. IT'S A 40-YEAR TERM AND PROVIDE 40 TO 50 JOBS. THE CITY, COUNTY, AND STATE WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE TAX OVER THE 40-YEAR PERIOD, WITHOUT ANY TYPE OF ESCALATION, IT WILL BE $69,192,000 OVER THAT PERIOD FOR A TOTAL REVENUE OF $75,636,000. WITH THE TEXANS, OF COURSE, THEY'RE DOING THE $10 MILLION CAPITAL INVESTMENT . AND THE TEXAN, I'LL BRING UP BRIAN DLUGOSCH. HE WILL BE TALKING ABOUT THIS SECTION, HIS STORES, AND HE IS THE OWNER-OPERATOR OF THE TEXAN. >> MAYOR, COUNCIL, GOOD EVENING. I FEEL LIKE I WAS HERE. TIME FLIES ABOUT THE TULOSO SITE. WE WOULD LIKE TO BUILD BOTH OF THESE SITES IN CONJUNCTION WITH EACH OTHER. I'M SURE Y'ALL ARE FAMILIAR WITH THE TEXAN, WITH THE ONE IN PORTLAND AND OTHER SITES. REALLY, I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS Y'ALL MAY HAVE. WE'RE EXCITED. I KNOW WE'VE BEEN NEGOTIATING WITH THE AIRPORT FOR PROBABLY GOING ON A COUPLE OF YEARS NOW. AND SO WE'RE FINALLY TO THAT POINT AND WE FEEL LIKE IT'S A GOOD ADDITION TO THAT SIDE OF TOWN. NOT A WHOLE LOT OF COMPETITION. NOT A LOT OF CHOICES IN THE AREA. SO WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT IT. YOU KNOW, ON THE TRAFFIC COUNT IT'S NOT A TYPICAL TRAFFIC COUNT WE LOOK FOR BUT WE FEEL LIKE WE'RE IN THIS MARKET AND WE FEEL LIKE WE CAN DO FAIRLY WELL IN THAT AREA. I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. >> Mayor Guajardo: THANK YOU. >> WITH IT, THE CONSTRUCTION TIMELINE WE'RE LOOKING AT, IN TALKING TO THE TEXAN, IS FEBRUARY 2026 THEY'LL COMPLETE DESIGN AND DO A BID AWARD. AND THEN GO INTO MARCH 2026, THEY'LL START THE CONSTRUCTION. AND THEN JANUARY 2027 TO DO THE GRAND OPENING FOR THE STORE. WITH THAT, WE ARE OPEN FOR ANY QUESTIONS. >> Mayor Guajardo: COUNCILMAN ROY. >> Roy: THANK YOU. FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THE TOUR THAT YOU GAVE ME AND THE VISIT THAT WE SAT DOWN. I HAD ASKED A LOT OF QUESTIONS THE LAST TIME THIS CAME THROUGH. AND SO, AGAIN, I WANT TO THANK YOU AND YOUR STAFF FOR TAKING THE TIME, SHARING THE LEASE INFORMATION WITH ME AND THOSE LEASES AND SENDING THE FOLLOW-UP INFORMATION THAT YOU SENT. AND SO I WANTED TO KIND OF SHARE SOME OF MY FINDINGS, JUST IN GENERAL. BECAUSE I THINK IT'S JUST GOOD TO HISTORICALLY KIND OF UNDERSTAND HOW WE GOT TO THIS PLACE. NUMBER ONE, AND PART OF THE MASTER PLAN, WE ACTUALLY, THE CITY, SENT AN RFP OUT AND TEXANS RESPONDED TO THE RFP BECAUSE WE ASKED FOR A GAS STATION AT THE CONVENIENT GAS STATION/CONVENIENCE STORE AT THE AIRPORT. AND TEXANS RESPONDED. ONE OF THE THINGS WE DID WAS AS I LOOKED AT THE LEASE, IT WAS AUSTIN BERGSTROM AND TEXACO, I BELIEVE IT WAS. THERE WAS ANOTHER FACILITY AND I WAS QUESTIONING BEFORE ABOUT THE LEASE AND WAS THAT COMPARABLE WITH OTHER LEASES AND OTHER AIRPORTS. ACTUALLY, OUR LEASE WAS A LOT MORE. I WAS AMAZED WHAT WAS OFFERED AT THE LEASE AT BERGSTROM. IT WAS PRETTY LOW. I KNOW THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO NEGOTIATE THAT AND GET BACK UP TO WHERE THEY THINK IT'S MORE FAVORABLE. SO, I THANK YOU FOR PROVIDING THAT INFORMATION. THAT ANSWERED MY QUESTION AND GAVE ME A LOT MORE COMFORT. THE OTHER THING IS I LOOKED AT THE 196 PARKING SPACES. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS REITERATED WAS THAT AS THINGS DEVELOP AND THEY GROW OUT THERE, THAT IF WE DON'T TRY TO SHORE UP THOSE PARKING SPACES, THERE MIGHT NOT BE ROOM IN THE FUTURE. I KNOW THAT LONG-TERM UNDER THE MASTER PLAN IS THAT ONE OF THE BENEFITS OF HAVING A HOTEL, OKAY. WHY DO WE NEED A HOTEL? AND YOU EXPLAINED TO ME THAT, NUMBER ONE, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A HOTEL WITH A RESTAURANT IF THE CREW ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO STAY RIGHT THERE ON -- I'M MILITARY -- SO COMPOUND. JUST THE AIRPORT. SO THERE'S A LOT OF BENEFIT TO THAT, BEING ABLE TO HAVE CREWS THAT COULD STAY THERE. BUT THE OTHER THING I DIDN'T THINK ABOUT -- AGAIN, I WANT TO THANK YOUR STAFF AND YOU FOR BRINGING THIS UP -- IS THAT WE HAVE PEOPLE FROM ROCKPORT -- YOU KNOW, I LIVE OUT IN CALALLEN, WHICH SOME PEOPLE THINK IS THE OTHER PART OF THE WORLD. IF WE HAVE TO CATCH A 5:00 A.M. FLIGHT OR 6:00 A.M. FLIGHT, WE'RE UP PRETTY EARLY TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. BEING ABLE TO HAVE ULTIMATELY A HOTEL ON SITE THERE, PEOPLE IN ROCKPORT OR THE SURROUNDING AREA, THEY CAN STAY OVERNIGHT AND THEN GET UP AND BE ABLE TO CATCH THEIR FLIGHT IN THE MORNING. SO, AGAIN, I'M A LOT MORE COMFORTABLE, BASED ON GOING DOWN, TAKING A TOUR, LOOKING AT WHAT -- I THINK IT'S A GOOD PLAN. IT'S A PROJECT THAT I'LL SUPPORT. SO, THANKS AGAIN. >> Mayor Guajardo: COUNCILWOMAN VAUGHN. >> Vaughn: I JUST WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT. I HAD NEVER BEEN IN A TEXAN AND WE WERE HEADED TO MADISONVILLE A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO AND WE SAW THE SIGN. I SAID, LET'S GET GAS THERE. BECAUSE I WANTED TO SEE IT. THEY'RE ABSOLUTELY BEAUTIFUL. THEY'RE REALLY VERY NICE STORES. THIS ONE WAS. I GUESS IT WAS ONE IN VICTORIA, MAYBE. I DON'T REMEMBER. BUT I WILL TELL YOU THE PEOPLE IN THE RURAL AREAS AROUND THE AIRPORT ARE REALLY EXCITED KNOWING THERE'S GOING TO BE A SERVICE STATION DOWN THERE. I THINK YOU'LL BE SUCCESSFUL. THANK YOU. >> Mayor Guajardo: COUNCILMAN CANTU. >> Cantu: FOR THE RECORD, YOU GUYS TALKED TO STORES IN THE AIRPORT CORRECT? I THINK IT'S A CONVENIENCE STORE AND A RESTAURANT? >> THAT'S CORRECT. WE TALKED TO THE CONCESSIONS. >> Cantu: WHAT WAS THEIR FEEDBACK ON THE STORE? >> THEY WERE WELL AWARE OF THE DEVELOPMENT AND THEY HAD NO CONCERNS WITH IT. THEY LOOK AT THE DYNAMICS OF TWO DIFFERENT TYPES OF CUSTOMERS. THEY BELIEVE THAT ONE IS GOING TO BE TRAVELING ON THE ROADWAY GOING TO THE RENTAL CAR FACILITY. THAT WILL BE SERVICED BY THE TEXANS. OURS ARE MORE THEY'RE COMING IN, PARKING, GOING INSIDE, GETTING PAST SECURITY, AND THEN BEING COMFORTABLE GOING TO THEIR RESTAURANTS. SO THEY HAD NO WORRIES ABOUT ANY TAKEAWAY FROM THEM. >> Cantu: AWESOME. I JUST WANTED TO TELL THE OWNER, THANK YOU FOR INVESTING IN CORPUS CHRISTI AND I HOPE AND PRAY THAT EVERYTHING WORKS OUT ON THAT LOCATION. AND I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE THE NEW STORE. APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. >> Mayor Guajardo: YEAH. I ECHO THOUGH SENTIMENTS. THANK YOU FOR INVESTING IN CORPUS CHRISTI BECAUSE YOUR STORES ARE PRISTINE. THEY REALLY ARE. I'M GLAD, CAROLYN, YOU GOT TO STOP IN AND SEE. BECAUSE IT'S NOT JUST A GAS STATION. YOU'VE DONE A WONDERFUL JOB. COUNCILMAN SCOTT. >> Scott: WELL, I HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A COMPLAINT BECAUSE THOSE STORES ARE SO CLEAN AND SO INTERESTING. THERE'S SO MUCH FOR AN ADD -- I HAVE BEEN IN THEM TWICE. OVERSPENT BOTH TIMES. AND THAT'S A COMPLIMENT. THANK YOU. I'VE BEEN IN THE ONE IN PORTLAND TWICE AND I THOUGHT IT WAS A FANTASTIC FACILITY. PLENTY OF ROOM FOR SUBURBANS TO PARK. YOU'RE NOT NEXT TO EACH OTHER. I LIKE THE IDEA OF EXTRA PARKING. YOU JUST FEEL COMFORTABLE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR INTEREST IN CORPUS AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR INVESTMENT. >> Mayor Guajardo: COUNCILWOMAN CAMPOS. >> Campos: I'M ON A THEME TODAY AND MY THEME IS ON THE ENVIRONMENT. I KNOW YOU HAVE YOUR PLANS THAT YOU DUPLICATE FOR ALL YOUR STORES. BUT I WOULD AGAIN CHALLENGE ANY NEW STORES, ANY NEW BUILDINGS THAT ARE COMING INTO OUR CITY, THAT WE CHALLENGE THEM WITH RAIN RECAPTURE TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO CONSERVE SOME OF THE WATER THAT WE WILL -- WE DO GET BUT WE JUST DON'T CONSERVE IT. WE DON'T SAVE IT. AND, AGAIN, CHALLENGE YOU WITH ANY KIND OF SOLAR POWER, WIND. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU INCORPORATE THAT IN YOUR STORES. I HAVE ALSO BEEN TO ONE OF YOUR STORES AND IT IS VERY IMMACULATE, VERY INVITING. I DO WANT TO SPEND TIME THERE BUT I WOULD LIKE TO ALSO CHALLENGE YOU AND YOUR INVESTORS TO DO SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT MORE FORWARD THINKING. SO, THANK YOU. >> Mayor Guajardo: THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN. I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND OPEN PUBLIC COMMENT. IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE COMMENT ON ITEM NO. 20? OKAY. THERE BEING NO ONE, WE'LL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT. WE HAVE A MOTION. WE HAVE A SECOND. PLEASE SUBMIT YOUR VOTE. THE MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU. AND OUR LAST -- >> City Secretary: SORRY. ITEM 19, GOING BACK REALLY BRIEFLY. COUNCILMEMBER CANTU WAS LISTENING IN THE BACK AND HE CAME IN AT THE VERY END OF THE VOTE. HE'S ASKING IF HIS VOTE COULD BE RECORDED AS AN "AYE." IS THAT A PROBLEM FOR THE COUNCIL? >> Mayor Guajardo: THAT'S FINE. ITEM NO. 21, OUR LAST ITEM, IS AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE ROADWAY MASTER PLAN MAP OF MOBILITY CC TO REMOVE A SECTION OF FREDS FOLLY DRIVE, LOCATED BETWEEN MASTER CHANNEL 31 AND YORKTOWN BOULEVARD. REQUESTED BY ROLAND BARRERA, MARK SCOTT, AND EVERETT ROY. >> ALL RIGHT. SO YOU WANT ME TO GET STARTED? >> Mayor Guajardo: GET STARTED. >> SO WHERE WE LEFT OFF WAS THE 30-DAY EXTENSION TO TRY TO SEE IF WE CAN GET OUR DEVELOPERS TO MAKE A DEAL ON THIS PROPOSED AMENDMENT. AS IT STANDS, BOTH DEVELOPERS STILL STAND FIRM THAT THEY WANT THE ROAD REMOVED FROM THE MASTER PLAN. THAT'S THEIR POSITION AND WE STAND BY FOR ANY QUESTIONS. >> Mayor Guajardo: COUNCILMAN HERNANDEZ. GO AHEAD. >> Hernandez: YEAH. STAY THERE. OKAY. NOW, BEFORE SOME OF THESE, YOU KNOW, WHEN I FIRST GOT ON, I WAS REALLY CRITICAL ABOUT US GIVING UP THE EASEMENT ON BRONX, WHICH IS RIGHT THERE WHERE -- BEHIND VETERANS MEMORIAL THAT WOULD HAVE CONNECTED TO YORKTOWN. NOW, I WAS NOT ON COUNCIL AT THE TIME. DEL MAR DIDN'T WANT TO BUILD IT. WE ENDED UP TELLING THEM THEY NEEDED A BUILD A PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE OUT THERE IN THE MIDDLE OF NOWHERE. AT THE TIME THE TRAIL DIDN'T CONNECT AND THEY BUILT THIS BRIDGE. OKAY. WELL, THERE'S ONLY ONE ENTRANCE INTO THOSE AREAS. YOU COULD HAVE MADE THE ARGUMENT FOR BRONX BECAUSE YOU HAD ENTRANCES FROM AIRLINE AND CIMARRON. BUT THIS ONE DOESN'T HAVE THAT. AND, YOU KNOW, AT SOME POINT MAYBE IN THE FUTURE, WHO KNOWS IF IT WILL EVER GET BUILT BUT OSO PARKWAY IS SUPPOSED TO EVENTUALLY CONNECT BUT IT'S BEEN YEARS AND WE'RE NOT SURE HOW LONG THAT'S GOING TO TAKE. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, IT NEEDS FOR MOBILITY AND CONNECTION. AND I HAVE TAKEN YOU OUT THERE. WE STOPPED AT THAT LITTLE SPOT WHERE FREDS FOLLY IS. I UNDERSTAND IT'S A LITTLE AWKWARD BECAUSE IT DOESN'T LINE UP WITH THE FREDS FOLLY ON THE OTHER SIDE. AND THAT HAPPENED BEFORE WE WERE HERE. ULTIMATELY, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE SAFETY, MOBILITY FOR THE RESIDENTS OF THOSE AREAS. I UNDERSTAND IT COSTS MONEY TO BUILD THESE THINGS AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THE PROPERTY OWNERS, DEVELOPERS DON'T WANT TO NECESSARILY PAY FOR THAT. I GET IT. AND I'M WILLING TO ACCOMMODATE, YOU KNOW, HOW IT'S DESIGNED SO YOU CAN SQUARE IT OFF OR WHATEVER TO MAXIMIZE THEIR PROPERTY. BUT THE ROAD STILL HAS TO BE BUILT AND THAT BRIDGE STILL HAS TO BE PART OF IT. IT WAS SOMETHING I WAS GOING TO RECOMMEND AS A PART OF OUR BOND PACKAGE IN THE FUTURE TO COVER SOME OF THE COST FOR THAT COMPONENT. WE DO HAVE PAYMENT FROM THE PREVIOUS DEVELOPER THAT BUILT ON THE OTHER SIDE FOR THAT CROSSING. WE NEED TO -- IT NEEDS TO BE BUILT. SO THAT'S MY OPINION AS THE REPRESENTATIVE FOR THAT AREA AND FOR THE RESIDENTS OF THE PEOPLE THAT ALREADY LIVE THERE. NOW, WE'VE ALSO GOTTEN SOME NEW INFORMATION FROM CCISD THAT THOSE INDIVIDUALS ARE GOING TO BE GOING TO THE MIDDLE SCHOOL OUT THERE, YOU KNOW, INSTEAD OF HAVING THEM GO ALL THE WAY AROUND, THERE'S THAT ROUTE RIGHT THERE. THERE'S A LOT OF REASONS TO KEEP THIS IN THERE. AND NUMBER ONE, FOR MOBILITY AND FOR SAFETY. THAT'S THE POSITION I'VE HAD. I HAVE EVEN TAKEN THE CITY MANAGER OUT THERE TWICE. RICHARD MARTINEZ, WHEN HE WAS HERE BEFORE. TOOK HIM OUT THERE. >> Zanoni: RIGHT. >> Hernandez: I TOOK CHIEF WADE OUT THERE. IT WAS BEFORE I EVEN KNEW WHO THE DEVELOPERS WERE GOING TO BE OR WHO OWNED THE PROPERTY. DIDN'T REALLY MATTER TO ME. THAT'S WHY I ADVOCATED FOR THE BUILDING OF -- EXTENSION OF RODD FIELD ROAD FOR THE SAFETY OF THOSE PEOPLE IN RANCHO VISTA, TO GET THEM TO A PROTECTED INTERSECTION. IT'S ALL ABOUT MOBILITY AND SAFETY. THANK YOU. >> Mayor Guajardo: COUNCILMAN SCOTT. >> Scott: YEAH, I'M GOING TO DIE ON THE SWORD HERE. I RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE. AT SOME POINT, I GET THAT BEING, AS I WAS TALKING TO CHIEF WADE IN THE BACK ROOM, I WANT THEM 30 SECONDS AWAY FROM ME WHEN I HAVE MY FIRST HEART ATTACK. BUT THE REALITY IS THERE'S A NUMBER. AND I THINK WE AT SOME POINT -- I JUST THINK ONE EXTRA STREET IS NOT GOING TO CUT THE TIME, THE EMS TIME IN HALF. I THINK THE PEOPLE THAT BOUGHT HOUSES IN THERE KNEW THIS WAS THE WAY IT WAS. NO ONE'S CALLED ME AND SAID, HEY, I WANT THAT ROAD. I DID HAVE ONE ENGINEER WHO LOVES PLANS SAYING IT'S ON THE PLAN. YOU HAVE TO BUILD THE ROAD. THAT JUST EATS ME UP. I DO THINK THE ACHILLES HEEL IS THE SCHOOL. I DO RECOGNIZE THAT THAT SCHOOL WOULD PROVIDE ADDITIONAL -- CREATE ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC THAT MIGHT USE THAT. ALTHOUGH, MAN, I WOULD HATE TO OWN A HOUSE ON THAT ROAD NOW. AND YOU MENTIONED IT, GIL. WE DON'T HAVE ONE BETWEEN AIRLINE AND CIMARRON BECAUSE DEL MAR TOOK THAT OUT. THERE'S SOME EVIDENCE THAT WE HAVE ELIMINATED ROADS IN THE PAST. I THINK IT DOES ELIMINATE DEVELOPMENT. I'M NOT GOING TO LOSE SLEEP IF WE REQUIRE THE ROAD, BUT I THINK IT REALLY DOES ELIMINATE A DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITY. THAT'S IT. YEAH, I'M GOING TO VOTE TO REMOVE IT, WHETHER IT PASSES OR NOT. >> YES, SIR. >> Mayor Guajardo: COUNCILMAN CANTU. >> Cantu: ARE BOTH PROPERTY OWNERS HAPPY, AS IN WHAT YOU GUYS ARE DOING? >> THEY'RE HERE. >> WE'RE HAPPY. WE'RE GOING TO MAKE A DECISION WITH YOU GUYS BUT WE'RE HOPING THE ROAD GETS REMOVED. I HAVE SPOKEN TO SEVERAL ENTITIES AND INDIVIDUALS. THERE'S ALWAYS A WANT AND A NEED. EVERY TIME I TALK TO SOMEBODY ABOUT THIS, THEY WANT IT. AND EVERY TIME I ASK THEM SHOW ME WHERE IT'S NEEDED, I HAVE YET TO BE PROVIDED A DOCUMENT THAT SAYS THEY NEED IT. WHETHER IT'S THROUGH METRICS, SOME TYPE OF STUDY. BUT EVERYBODY SAYS THEY WANT IT AND NOBODY'S BEEN ABLE TO SHOW ME THAT IT'S REQUIRED OR NEEDED AT THIS POINT. AND THE WHOLE AMENDMENT PROCESS THAT WE HAVE HERE, IT'S FOR THAT REASON. I SAT ON THE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE TO GO AHEAD AND SET UP THE AMENDMENT PROCESS. AND NONE OF THAT HAS WORKED HERE. I HAVE BEEN MET WITH SELECTIVE INPUT THE ENTIRE WAY. IT SHOULDN'T BE THAT WAY. THAT'S MY OPINION ABOUT THE WHOLE SITUATION. >> Cantu: GOT IT. >> THANK YOU. >> Cantu: AND YOU REPRESENT MAURY RIGHT? ARE YOU GUYS HAPPY ON YOUR SIDE OF ALL THE PLANS AND EVERYTHING? >> WELL, THE REMOVAL OF THIS STREET EXTENSION FROM THE PLAN -- THE WAY WE'VE LOOKED AT IT IS SO MUCH OF THAT AREA HAS DEVELOPED. THE PROPER TIME TO DO THE STREET EXTENSION WOULD HAVE BEEN 15, MAYBE 20 YEARS AGO. AND THEN THE DEVELOPMENT WOULD HAVE GROWN TO IT. AND THINGS WOULD HAVE COME TOGETHER ORGANICALLY. RIGHT NOW, EVERYBODY OR ALL OF THE DEVELOPMENTS THAT HAVE TAKEN PLACE NORTH OF THIS DITCH, MOST OF THAT LAND HAS ALREADY BEEN DEVELOPED. IT'S ESSENTIALLY DEVELOPED. THE TRAFFIC PATTERNS HAVE BEEN ESTABLISHED. STREET SYSTEMS HAVE BEEN ESTABLISHED TO WORK THAT WAY. MOST OF THE VACANT PROPERTY THAT IS LEFT IS BETWEEN THE DITCH AND YORKTOWN. THOSE PROPERTIES ARE GOING TO GRAVITATE DIRECTLY TO YORKTOWN. LOOKING AT THE SCHOOL SYSTEM, WE CAN'T IGNORE THE SCHOOL SYSTEM BUT IN THIS PART OF TOWN YOU'VE GOT BARNS ELEMENTARY AND COLE ELEMENTARY TO THE NORTH WHICH FEED INTO ATKINS MIDDLE SCHOOL, A LITTLE FURTHER TO THE NORTH ALSO. TO THE WEST WE HAVE WEBB ELEMENTARY WHICH FEED INTO KATHY MIDDLE SCHOOL. NOW, WE'VE GOT THE NEW FACILITIES ON THE SOUTH BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE LEVEL OF DEVELOPMENT VERSUS THE SPACING OF THE SCHOOLS, RANCHO VISTA NEEDS AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. RANCHO VISTA NEEDS A MIDDLE SCHOOL TO SERVE THAT AMOUNT OF POPULATION IN THAT AREA. SO IF THAT'S BEING THE CASE, WE REALLY DON'T SEE THAT MUCH TRAFFIC CROSSING THAT DITCH, USING THE STREET EXTENSION TO CROSS AND GO BACK TO THAT AREA. IT'S JUST THE GEOGRAPHY, WHERE THE FACILITIES ARE, WHERE THE POPULATION CENTERS ARE AND THE TRAFFIC PATTERNS THAT COME OUT OF THOSE. SO THE COLLECTOR STREET WAS AN EXCELLENT IDEA WHEN THE TRAFFIC MASTER PLAN WAS GENERATED. AT THIS POINT IN TIME, IT DOESN'T HONOR DEVELOPMENT AS IT HAS TAKEN PLACE. >> Cantu: OKAY. I APPRECIATE IT. >> Mayor Guajardo: COUNCILWOMAN VAUGHN. >> Vaughn: WHAT ARE YOU RECOMMENDING? WHAT'S YOUR RECOMMENDATION? >> MY RECOMMENDATION IS TO LEAVE THE ROAD AS-IS, BASED ON THE INPUT FROM THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND THEN BASED ON PLANNING COMMISSION'S FINDINGS ON THE CCISD. >> Vaughn: LEAVE THE ROAD? >> ON THE MASTER PLAN. >> Vaughn: THIS IS WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT WITH CALALLEN. ONLY ONE WAY IN. THANK YOU. . >> Mayor Guajardo: COUNCILMAN BARRERA. >> Barrera: I'M SORRY. THERE'S ACCESS NOW. I MEAN, IT DOESN'T MATTER. THE THING IS THERE'S ACCESS NOW BECAUSE THE ONLY THING OUT THERE IS A FIELD. WHAT'S OUT THERE RIGHT NOW? >> I CAN SHOW YOU. >> Barrera: THE UNDEVELOPED PROPERTY? >> LET ME BRING IT UP RIGHT HERE SIR. SO, RIGHT NOW THERE IS NO ROAD RIGHT NOW. ALL YOU HAVE IS DITCH. IS THAT ANSWERING YOUR QUESTION? >> Barrera: YEAH, THAT'S MY THING. I MEAN, IF THE PROPERTY IS NOT DEVELOPED, THERE'S NO ACCESS. >> CORRECT. >> Barrera: I'M JUST CURIOUS AS TO WHY IT'S NOT A SAFETY HAZARD RIGHT NOW. AND YET WE HAVE ONE PROPERTY, THAT IT'S A $40 MILLION DEVELOPMENT OF WHICH WE'RE GOING TO GET REVENUE -- LORD WILLING WE HAVE THE WATER, YOU KNOW, THE UTILITIES, THE AD VALOREM. AND THAT'S THE THING I'M SAYING. IF BECAUSE OF SOME MASTER PLAN WE DON'T AMEND, IS THERE ANY REASON -- I THOUGHT WE HAD DISCUSSED MOVING THE ROAD EITHER EAST OR WEST. >> YES, SIR. WE LOOKED AT THOSE OPTIONS, OUR DEVELOPERS, THEY LANDED ON THEY DIDN'T WANT THE ROAD THERE. THE IMPACTS TO THEM WERE -- >> Barrera: BECAUSE THAT'S THE THING. YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE -- THAT'S REALLY MY CHALLENGE IS THAT, OKAY. WE DETERMINED THAT WE'RE GOING TO REQUIRE A ROAD AND IT'S NOT DEVELOPED, YOU KNOW. IT'S NOT DEVELOPED. AND, WHAT IS IT? THERE'S STILL NO ACCESS. SO WHAT ARE WE DOING TO REMEDY THE PROBLEM RIGHT NOW? HOW IS AN APARTMENT COMPLEX OR A -- I MEAN, WHAT'S IT ZONED FOR? OBVIOUSLY, WHAT'S IT ZONED FOR RIGHT NOW? >> WE DIDN'T GET INTO THE ZONE TALK BUT AS FAR AS ACCESS, IF YOU DON'T BUILD THE ROAD AND YOU HAVE THE NEW YORKTOWN PROJECT, THERE'S GOING TO BE A TURNAROUND BEYOND THAT BLUE SQUARE THERE WHERE EVERYBODY THAT LIVES THERE IS GOING TO HAVE TO TAKE THE TURNAROUND ON YORKTOWN AND COME BACK. RATHER THAN TURN LEFT INTO THAT STREET. SO THAT'S ONE SCENARIO. >> Barrera: ISN'T THAT WHAT THEY DO NOW? >> RIGHT. BUT YOUR TRAFFIC GENERATOR IS GOING TO BE A LOT HIGHER WITH THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE. EVERYBODY THAT LIVES THERE IS -- >> Barrera: SO WE'RE GOING TO PROVIDE ACCESS IN THE BACK TO THE APARTMENT COMPLEX? >> RIGHT, RIGHT. SO RIGHT NOW, IF YOU PUT FREDS FOLLY, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO ADD THE FOURTH LEG TO THE SIGNAL RIGHT THERE AT THAT INTERSECTION. AND THEN IN ADDITION TO THAT, THE BRIDGE. SO THAT WOULD BE YOUR -- >> Barrera: BUT I'M SAYING THAT IF WE DON'T -- BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. THERE'S NO ACCESS NOW. THIS IS GOING TO BE THE BACK OF AN APARTMENT COMPLEX OR THE BACK OF A STRIP CENTER. WHAT'S IT ZONED FOR? >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCILMAN. THE PROPERTY IS ZONED SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL FOR THE MAJORITY OF THE LOTS. THERE MAY BE A SMALL PORTION OF NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL ALONG YORKTOWN, WHICH YOU'LL HAVE A TYPICAL FOUR, FIVE-TENANT SHOPPING CENTER AT MOST. BUT THE VAST MAJORITY IS ZONED SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL RS-6. >> Barrera: THE DEVELOPER IS GOING TO BUILD AN APARTMENT COMPLEX. >> ON ANOTHER PORTION. IF THEY HAVE THE NECESSARY ZONING, THE ZONING MAP THAT I HAVE SHOWS SINGLE-FAMILY. IT MAY BE A SERIES OF DUPLEXES OR SOMETHING OF A LOWER DENSITY THAT DOESN'T CROSS INTO MULTIFAMILY. >> Barrera: MR. MUNOZ, WHAT'S THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT? >> WE SUBMITTED A PLAN ALREADY TO DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. WE WORKED OUT THE OPEN SPACE AND ALL THE REQUIREMENTS. THAT PART IS TAKEN CARE OF. IF WE HAVE TO MAKE ANY MINOR CHANGES, WE'LL WORK WITH DS. I STILL HAVEN'T BEEN SHOWN WHERE ON THE METRICS IT'S REQUIRED. I HEARD FIRE DEPARTMENT. IS THERE AN ANALYSIS THAT SHOWS IT'S REQUIRED TO MEET THE ACTUAL TIMES? >> YEAH. SO IN THIS DISCUSSION, THE ANALYSIS IS PERFORMED BY PAPE-DAWSON WHEN THEY DO THE MASTER PLAN. CITY COUNCIL -- AND I HAVE MENTIONED THIS BEFORE -- CITY COUNCIL'S ENTITLED TO THE MASTER PLAN. WE DON'T DO METRICS AND ANALYSIS TO DISPROVE THAT WE'RE ENTITLED TO. I'M NOT GOING TO DO AN ANALYSIS TO SAY WHY ROADS NEED TO COME OFF THE MASTER PLAN, BECAUSE COUNCIL ALREADY VOTED ON THE MASTER PLAN AS PROPOSED BY PAPE-DAWSON. >> Barrera: OKAY. OKAY. NEITHER ONE OF YOU ANSWERED MY QUESTION. WHAT'S THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT? >> APARTMENTS. >> Barrera: IS IT GOING TO HAVE TO BE REZONED FOR APARTMENTS? >> YES. THE CURRENT ZONING IS SINGLE-FAMILY. >> Barrera: OKAY. NOW I UNDERSTAND. SO THEN IS THERE A POSSIBILITY OF THEN US, IF THEY -- LET'S SAY, FOR EXAMPLE, WE PUT A CAVEAT IN HERE RIGHT NOW. IF IT'S REZONED FOR APARTMENT COMPLEX THAT WE ELIMINATE THE ROAD. BECAUSE NOW YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE -- RIGHT NOW IT LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE GOING TO PUT THAT ROAD THROUGH HIS PROPERTY, THE APARTMENT COMPLEX, OF WHICH IT'S GOING TO BUTT THE BACK END. I'M SURE THEY'RE NOT GOING TO WANT ACCESS AND I'M SURE THE NEIGHBORS AREN'T GOING TO WANT ACCESS TO THAT BACK THERE AS WELL. IN OTHER WORDS, IF IT'S REZONED AS AN APARTMENT COMPLEX, I SEE NO REASON FOR THE ROAD. >> PROCEDURALLY, THERE ARE TWO ISSUES AT PLAY. ONE IS THE REZONING, IN WHICH THE MERITS HAVE TO BE EXAMINED ON WHETHER OR NOT A ROAD WOULD BE NEEDED BECAUSE OF THE INCREASED DENSITY THAT WOULD NOW BE PRESENT ON SITE. SEPARATELY, A PLAT WOULD ENFORCE THE CURRENT ROADWAY MASTER PLAN, WHICH CAN ONLY BE AMENDED BY PLANNING COMMISSION. >> Barrera: WHY HAVEN'T WE DONE THAT YET? WHY HAVEN'T WE RECOMMENDED THAT? >> IT WAS PRESENTED TO PLANNING COMMISSION, PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED -- >> Barrera: NO, NO. NOT THE AMENDMENT TO THE ROAD. I'M JUST SAYING WHY WASN'T IT PRESENTED -- THAT'S THE THING I SEE. ONCE AGAIN, THERE'S NO ACCESS NOW. IF YOU'RE GOING TO BUILD MORE HOMES, I CAN SEE THAT. BUT THE DEVELOPER HAS INDICATED THAT THEY HAVE FINANCING FOR AN APARTMENT COMPLEX. SO WHY DON'T WE WORK WITH THE DEVELOPER? RIGHT NOW THEY'RE MAKING INTEREST PAYMENTS. WE'RE LOSING REVENUE. HOW DO WE GET IT SO WE HAVE A PREDICTABLE REGULATORY ENVIRONMENT THAT'S CONDUCIVE TO A DEVELOPER? >> I MEAN, THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT GO ON. THE PROPERTY TO OUR NORTH WENT AHEAD AND PAID IN FOR THAT BRIDGE CROSSING. I MEAN, ARE WE GOING TO BE ENTITLED TO THE SAME PAYMENT OF $50,000 FOR THEIR HALF PORTION? THE OTHER IS SIGNALIZATION. THAT SIGNAL LIGHT WILL BE INSTALLED BY THE CITY. ALL THE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS HERE ARE BURDENED TO THE PROPERTY TO THE RIGHT. THIS SEEMS KIND OF UNFAIR AT THIS POINT. THE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT REQUIRED TO THE LEFT IS A SIGNAL LIGHT, WHICH THE CITY IS GOING TO PAY FOR. THE ACTUAL CROSSING FOR THE DITCH -- THE PROPERTY CROSS ONLY PAYS $50,000. NOW WE'RE GOING TO BE ENCUMBERED WITH THAT PART. I DON'T SEE HOW THIS IS FAIR FOR THAT PROPERTY TO THE RIGHT WHERE FREE SIGNAL LIGHT, NO PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS REQUIRED HERE. THE PROPERTY TO THE NORTH DEVELOPED FOR $50,000 BUT THIS ONE PARCEL YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE THEM PAY FOR THAT BY THEMSELVES AND ENCUMBER THE PROPERTY. AND YOU STILL HAVEN'T SHOWED ME ANY METRICS WHERE IT'S REQUIRED? THAT SEEMS FARFETCHED RIGHT THERE. >> Barrera: OKAY. THANK YOU. >> Mayor Guajardo: COUNCILMAN HERNANDEZ. >> Hernandez: I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS THE ONE OF TWO SIGNAL INTERSECTIONS FOR THIS AREA. AND THIS IS THE -- I GUESS THE ONLY COLLECTOR THAT'S THERE, OTHER THAN OSO PARKWAY, WHICH ISN'T EVEN BUILT ON THAT SIDE YET. >> CORRECT. >> Hernandez: WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS REMOVING A C1 COLLECTOR THAT IS A SIGNALED INTERSECTION. I UNDERSTAND THE DEVELOPER'S DESIRE NOT TO BUILD THE ROAD. THERE'S COST TO IT. I GET IT. I UNDERSTAND IT. THE TRANSPORTATION PLAN SAYS A ROAD HAS TO BE THERE. IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE EXACTLY LIKE THIS. IT COULD BE CHANGED A LITTLE BIT. IT COULD BE MOVED A LITTLE BIT. IT COULD BE ADJUSTED TO WHERE IT COULD ACCOMMODATE WHATEVER DEVELOPMENT IS THERE. SPLIT IT IN HALF BETWEEN BOTH OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS. SINCE THIS IS THE ONLY COLLECTOR THAT'S IN THIS AREA, YOU KNOW, REMOVING IT IS REALLY NOT THE RIGHT THING TO DO. THIS HAS ALREADY GONE THROUGH THE PLANNING COMMISSION. THEY REJECTED REMOVING THIS ROAD. OKAY. I UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, THAT LIMITS WHAT YOU ARE PLANNING TO DO HERE ON THIS PROPERTY. I THINK ADJUSTMENTS CAN BE MADE. IT CAN BE SQUARED OFF. BUT IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE THIS THERE FOR MOBILITY. YOU'RE JUST GOING TO HAVE -- WE CAN'T JUST HAVE THESE DEAD ENDS. WE TALKED ABOUT THIS RECENTLY ON THE PROPERTY THAT WAS UP IN CALALLEN WHERE THEY WERE TRYING TO CONNECT TO THE ROADS THERE SO YOU CAN HAVE MORE THAN ONE ENTRANCE INTO THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS. YOU KNOW, YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT COULD HAPPEN. AT 3:00 AT THE CORNER OF SLOUGH ROAD AND RODD FIELD YOU HAVE AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL THAT IS VERY DIFFICULT TO GET IN AND OUT OF. SO YOU ABSOLUTELY NEED TO HAVE MORE THAN ONE ENTRANCE INTO THESE NEIGHBORHOODS. AND,AND, YOU KNOW, I SYMPATHIZE WITH THE DEVELOPERS HERE THAT THERE'S A COST TO THIS. BUT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS PART OF THE MASTER PLAN. WE ALL VOTED ON THE MASTER PLAN THAT PAPE-DAWSON DID. IT WAS VOTED BY COUNCIL TO APPROVE THAT MASTER PLAN. I UNDERSTAND THERE'S AMENDMENT PROCESSES BUT THIS IS NOT THE ONE TO REMOVE. YOU CAN ADJUST IT BUT WE DON'T NEED TO REMOVE IT. THANK YOU. >> Mayor Guajardo: THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN. OKAY. I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, GENTLEMEN. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. AT THIS TIME, I'M GOING TO ASK FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE COMMENT ON ITEM NO. 21? YES SIR. YOU CAN COME UP. >> JULIAN HERNANDEZ, DISTRICT 3. SO I CAUGHT THE TAIL END OF THIS. I WAS TRYING TO MAKE IT EARLIER AND I WAS LISTENING TO IT ON OF COURSE YOUTUBE AND WHATNOT. BUT I HEAR THE COLLECTOR STREETS, MADE A POINT ACCESS AND EVERYTHING ELSE. BUT THEN I HEAR CITY DEVELOPMENT TRYING TO DEVELOP 60-SOMETHING ACRES THERE IN THAT LITTLE SECTION WHERE THEY'RE AT. BUT THERE WAS NO MENTION OF AYERS WENT FROM A FOUR LANE TO A TWO LANE AND YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE ALL THESE VEHICLES PARKED THERE WHERE THEY'RE TRYING TO MAKE IT BIG. NO COMMENT WAS MADE OF PEOPLE GETTING IN AND OUT WITH COLLECTOR STREETS AND, YOU KNOW, BIGGER INFRASTRUCTURE. WHERE IT WAS A FOUR-LANE HIGHWAY, NOW IT'S A TWO-LANE HIGHWAY. BUT I JUST WANTED TO PUT IT ALL TOGETHER BECAUSE I DIDN'T HAVE A CHANCE TO GET HERE EARLIER. THAT LEADS TO ANOTHER QUESTION. IS THERE ANY OTHER WAY THAT PEOPLE THAT CAN'T MAKE IT TO CITY COUNCIL TO BE HEARD ON SOME OF THE AGENDA ITEMS THAT COME TO THE FRONT, OTHER THAN BEING HERE? >> Mayor Guajardo: SIR, UNFORTUNATELY, WE CAN'T ANSWER QUESTIONS BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY ADDRESS YOUR CONCERN. MAYBE REBECCA'S OFFICE. >> I CAN GET WITH HER AFTERWARDS. >> Mayor Guajardo: IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE COMMENT ON ITEM NO. 21? OKAY. THERE BEING NO ONE, WE'LL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT. COUNCILMAN SCOTT. >> Scott: I WAS GOING TO MAKE A MOTION BUT IF SOMEBODY ELSE WANTS TO SPEAK. MAYOR, I'M GOING TO MOVE TO APPROVE THE ORDINANCE. MAKE SURE I'M DOING THIS RIGHT. MOVE TO APPROVE THE ORDINANCE WRITTEN UNDER 21. >> SECOND. >> Mayor Guajardo: WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. PLEASE SUBMIT YOUR VOTE. SO THE MOTION FAILS. CAN WE TAKE ANOTHER VOTE? >> NO, I'M GOOD. >> Mayor Guajardo: WE'RE GOOD? >> I UNDERSTAND. I GOT IT RIGHT. >> Mayor Guajardo: OKAY. SO THE MOTION -- >> FAILS. >> Mayor Guajardo: OKAY. OKAY. THAT WAS OUR LAST ITEM AND THERE BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS, THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED. >> City Secretary: WE'RE GOING TO RECESS, MAYOR. >> Mayor Guajardo: WE'RE RECESSING FOR ABOUT 30 MINUTES. [RECESS] >> Mayor Pro Tem: ALL RIGHT. WE'RE RETURNING FROM RECESS, AND THE MAYOR SENDS HER APOLOGIES. SHE HAS AN ISSUE TO ATTEND TO WITH HER MOTHER. SO I GUESS I'M TO READ THIS PUBLIC COMMENT SCRIPT. GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT, WE HANDLE SIGNIFICANT MATTERS CONCERNING TAXPAYER DOLLARS, MAKING IT IMPERATIVE THAT WE UPHOLD THE HIGHEST STANDARDS OF DECORUM AND ADHERENCE TO OUR POLICIES. OUR CORE POLICIES OF OPENNESS, TRANSPARENCY AND INCLUSIVENESS GUIDE OUR ACTIONS AND WE AIM TO ACHIEVE THEM WHILE RESPECTING OUR CITY COUNCIL POLICY, WHICH HAS BEEN IN PLACE FOR 30 YEARS. PUBLIC COMMENT SERVES AS ONE AVENUE FOR COMMUNICATION BUT IS NOT THE SOUL METHOD. YOU MAY ALSO REACH OUT TO MEMBERS OF THIS COUNCIL BY PHONE, E-MAIL, OR BY SCHEDULING AN IN-PERSON APPOINTMENT. I ALSO WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT TO REEMPHASIZE THIS COUNCIL CHAMBERS IS A PLACE OF PUBLIC BUSINESS, A FORUM FOR CIVIC DISCUSSION DECISION-MAKING AND SERVICE TO THE PEOPLE OF CORPUS CHRISTI. IT IS NOT A STAGE FOR PERSONAL ATTACKS, DISRUPTIONS OR VULGARITIES. VIOLATIONS OF DECORUM WILL NOT BE TOLERATED. AND THE CITY ATTORNEY? >> Risley: >> [READING FROM SCREEN] >> Mayor Pro Tem: THANK YOU. OKAY. WITH THAT, WE WILL BEGIN WITH BRADLEY BARTLESON. >> MR. BARTLESON, FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND CITY WHEN YOU'RE READY TO BEGIN. >> I'M BRAD BARTLESON, DISTRICT 5. CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? >> YES, SIR. >> IT'S DISAPPOINTING YET AGAIN TO HAVE THE MAYOR AND CITY MANAGER WASTING EFFORTS ON THE HIGHLY FLAWED INNER HARBOR SITE. MY RECENT DISCUSSIONS WITH TCEQ HAVE YET TO YIELD ANSWERS TO THE FIVE SIGNIFICANT FLAWS AND RISKS. I URGE YOU TO STOP EXPECTING DIFFERENT RESULTS FROM THE SAME FLAWED SITE. LACK OF ENGAGING THE PUBLIC IN A TEAMING MANNER WAS CAUSE FOR PROCEEDING WITH THIS HIGHLY FLAWED DESIGN IN THE FIRST PLACE, AND NOT GET PUBLIC BUY-IN. I PROMOTE THE FIXING OF THIS WITH AN ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND ADD THE COMMITTEE NEEDS TO PROVIDE INPUT ON WATER SALES AS WELL. THE NEW TEMPORARY PLAN HAS AN ISSUE WITH CLEANUP OF THE WATER. I THINK IT PLACES US IN A HIGH RISK SITUATION WITH THOSE TDS LEVELS. HAVING NO RO CAPABILITY FOR THIS PLACES US IN A HIGH RISK POSITION. SO THIS IS A LOWER RISK, HIGHER GAIN WATER RESOURCE CONCEPT PLAN THAT EMPLOYS DISTRIBUTED RO. AN RO SUPPLIER PRICE OF $10 MILLION FOR EVANGELINE AND CITY WELLS CLEANUP WAS THE IDEATION FOR THIS PLAN. WORKING WITH AND INCENTIVIZING INDUSTRY TO MOVE ON TO REUSE, STORMWATER AND BRACKISH WATER SOURCES FREES UP POTABLE WATER AND BRINGS IN NEW WATER AT LOW COST. THAT'S 44 MGD. THIS PLAN ASSUMES ZERO WATER FLOW FROM LAKE CORPUS CHRISTI. NOW, THE SUPPORTING GOOD NEWS FOR THIS PLAN IS THE CITY CAN USE THESE SOURCES FOR THE BULK OF THEIR NEEDS, PER INPUT FROM BOB PAUL SON RECENTLY, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE COASTAL BEND INDUSTRY ASSOCIATION. . NOT ONLY CAN THE INDUSTRY DO THIS, THEY HAVE VOTED YES. THEY ARE CURRENTLY RECYCLING THEIR OWN WASTEWATER, LOOKING AT COLLECTING STORMWATER, RESEARCHING ADJUSTING THEIR CHEMICAL PROCESS TO USE REUSE WATER, AND LOOKING AT DRILLING THEIR OWN WELLS FOR GROUNDWATER. MOVING INDUSTRY UNDER THESE ALTERNATIVE SOURCES IS ADDING NEW WATER TO OUR SYSTEM, AND QUICKLY. PROVIDING INDUSTRY AN INCENTIVIZED RATE STRUCTURE IS KEY TO THIS SUCCESS, AN EXAMPLE SHOWN HERE CONSERVATION CAN ALSO BE A STRONG MOTIVATOR FOR BOTH INDUSTRY AND RESIDENTS HAD BY ENDING THE MINIMUM USE LIMITS. VIA THIS PLAN WE ADD 44 MGD TO OUR NEAR-TERM FUTURE WATER SUPPLIES LOWERING OUR NEAR-TERM RISK AND BEGIN GETTING ON TRACK ON A STRATEGIC WATER PLANT. MAYOR PRO TEM THANK YOU, MR. BARTLESON. >> THANK YOU. >> Mayor Pro Tem: NEXT WE HAVE FAJIMA GUERRA RA SHRKHIDI. AND MRS. GUERRA, FOR THE RECORD, WOULD YOU PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND CITY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> FATIMA, RASHIDI, DISTRICT ONE. THE LAST TIME I SPOKE HERE, I WAS VERY DISAPPOINTED THAT RECONCERTING THE POSSIBILITY TO BRING THE DESAL PLANT BACK INTO PLACE AGAIN. BUT NOW I'M ON THE VERGE OF OUTRAGE. DO YOU KNOW WHAT IS AT STAKE? BUT I -- I'LL GET TO THAT. I'LL GET TO THAT. I'D LIKE TO BRIEFLY ADDRESS OUR IMMUNE SYSTEM. I'M PRETTY SURE YOU KNOW THAT OUR IMMUNE SYSTEM IS CONSTANTLY FIGHTING FOR US, EVEN RIGHT NOW UNTIL THE DAY WE DIE. THERE ARE COUNTLESS T CELLS, MACROPHAGES, DENDRITIC CELLS, MONOCYTES BACTERIA ET CETERA. SO I THOUGHT TO MYSELF, IF THERE ARE ENDLESS LITTLE MICROSCOPIC ORGANISMS FIGHTING FOR OUR IMMUNE SYSTEMS, WHAT ABOUT THE OCEAN? SO I LOOKED IT UP AND I WAS RIGHT. ACCORDING TO MARINE BIODIVERSITY LEARNING CENTER, THEY LIVE MICROSCOPIC ORGANISMS WHICH EXISTS IN THE BILLIONS PER LITER OF SEAWATER. WHAT MAY SEEM SO INSIGNIFICANT IS ACTUALLY THE FOUNDATION OF MARINE LIFE, PRODUCING HALF ON THE EARTH'S OXYGEN AND CONDUCTING OUR PLANET'S MOST CRUCIAL BIOCHEMICAL CYCLES. THEY BREAK DOWN POLLUTANTS, REMOVE CARBON DIOXIDE AND PROVIDE ESSENTIAL NUTRIENTS TO LARGER MARINE SPECIES. I'VE JUST BEEN TALKING ABOUT BENEFICIAL ORGANISMS IN OUR OCEANS. WHAT ABOUT OUR BAYS HERE IN CORPUS CHRISTI? NITRO PHIING BACTERIA TRANSFORM AMMONIA FROM WASTE INTO NITRITE, WHICH IS A FORM OF NITROGEN THAT PHYTOPLANK KIN AND OTHER PLANTS USE. THIS PROCESS THAT SCIENTISTS CALL IS THE NITROGEN CYCLE. NITROGEN-FIXING BACTERIA, THESE MICROSCOPIC ORGANISMS CHANGE ATMOSPHERIC NITROGEN INTO AMMONIA, WHICH IN TURN IS UTILIZED BY OTHER ORGANISMS WHILE INTRODUCING NEW NIERNT INTO THE ECOSYSTEM. THERE ARE ALSO HYDROCARBON DEGRADING BACTERIA THAT HAVE THE ABILITY TO BREAK DOWN OIL AND OTHER PETROLEUM WHICH IS A HUGE ISSUE RIGHT HERE IN BEAUTIFUL CORPUS CHRISTI. THAT'S A WHOLE OTHER SOIRRY. ALL THIS BEING SAID WITHOUT THESE COUNTLESS MICROSCOPIC CREATURES HERE AND AROUND THE OCEAN WORLD, THERE IS NO OCEAN LIFE, NO LIFE FOR US. SO TO THOSE WHO ASK, WHY ARE YOU DEFENDING OCEANS AND BAYS FROM DESAL WHEN WE NEED WATER AND WHEN PEOPLE MATTER MORE? I SAY TO THEM, WHEN WE DEFEND OUR WATERS AND THEIR DELICATE ECOSYSTEMS, WE ARE DEFENDING US. IT IS ABOUT US. SO ARE YOU GOING TO DEFEND US OR INDUSTRY? THANK YOU AND GOD BLESS YOU AND YOUR FAMILIES. >> Mayor Pro Tem: THANK YOU, MRS. RASHIDI. ERIC VON WADE, AND I KNOW I MAY SOUND REDUNDANT, BUT MR. VON WADE, PLEASE STATE YOUR RECORD AND CITY. >> YES. ERIC VON WADE, DISTRICT 2, CORPUS CHRISTI, TEXAS. MAYOR, ESTEEMED COUNCIL, CITY MANAGER AND STAFF, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. I COME TO YOU BECAUSE AS I UNDERSTAND IT, WE MAY HAVE FOUND A PATHWAY FORWARD FOR DESALINATION, AND I ASK EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU TO -- WITH AN OPEN MIND CONSIDER THE OPPORTUNITIES AND POSSIBILITIES BECAUSE IF IT'S NOT DESALINATION NOW, IT WILL BE DESALINATION IN THE FUTURE AND MORE EXPENSIVE AT A GREATER COST. THE GOVERNOR OF THIS GREAT STATE, GREG ABBOT, HAS RECOGNIZED THE FUTURE. IT IS THE MOST EXPENSIVE MEANS OF WHICH TO GET POTABLE DRINKING WATER FOR A CITY. THERE'S ONLY ONE THING MORE EXPENSIVE, AND THAT'S NOT HAVING IT. AS A DIVERSIFIED WATER PORTFOLIO IS NECESSARY, THERE IS NO GOING BACK TO THE PRICES OF THE 1990s. BACK IN THE DAY WHEN WHICH I SPOKE THE FIRST TIME BEFORE CITY COUNCIL, THE PODIUM WAS OVER THERE AND I FOLLOWED JOE BRYAN, A FRIEND OF MINE, PRESIDENT AND FOUNDER OF THE TAXPAYER ASSOCIATION WHO NEVER SAW A TAX INCREASE HE EVER LIKED, BUT HE WAS FOR THE MOST EXPENSIVE FORM OF DESALINATION AT THAT TIME, MULTIEFFECT DISSTALL LAITION. IT USED AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF POWER, BUT HE WAS NOT OPPOSED TO OTHER FORMS. AND HERE WE STAND TODAY WITH AN ARID CONDITION IN THE STATE OF TEXAS THAT IS NOT JUST HERE. IT'S A PLAGUE OF EPIC PROPORTIONS THROUGHOUT THE STATE, SO MUCH SO THAT THE MOST POWERFUL POSITION IN THE STATE OF TEXAS ARGUABLY, THE GOVERNORSHIP HAS MADE IT THEIR MISSION, AND TIME IS NOT ON OUR SIDE AND IT'S NOT FOR THE TIMID. IF WE DON'T ACT SOON, OTHERS WILL ACT AND THEY WILL GET THE CONTRACTS AND THEY WILL SECURE THE WATER. WE ARE A REGIONAL WATER PROVIDER AND WE ARE A STRATIC NATIONAL DEFENSE AND IT IS TOO CRITICAL FOR OUR SURVIVAL NOW. WE ARE NO LONGER THAT SLEEPY FISHING VILLAGE, WE'RE NO LONGER THE SPARKLING CITY, WE'RE THE CROWN JEWELS OF THE TEXAS COAST AND WE NEED TO WALK LIKE WE HAVE THOSE JEWELS. IF WE DON'T, OTHERS WILL, AND THERE'S NO GOING BACK. AS WE'VE SEEN ALREADY, MORE EVALUATION, MORE ANALYSIS, WE'RE GOING BACK TO RELEARN THE LEARNING CURVE OF SEVEN YEARS AGO, AND I SAY GOOD, BECAUSE THERE IS NO GUARANTEE. BUT IF WE DON'T ACT, SOMEONE ELSE WILL. THERE IS NO ASSURED ANY SUCCESS ANYWHERE, BUT HE WHO CONTROLS THE WATER, CONTROLS THE FUTURE. AND IF WE WANT CORPUS CHRISTI TO EVOLVE FROM THE POINT OF STANDING ON THE PRECIPICE OF POSSIBILITIES, THEN IT IS OUR TIME TO LEAD AND BE BOLD. IF YOU ARE NOT FOR IT, WHAT ARE YOU FOR FOR GROWTH? DON'T BE TIMID, YOU ARE THE LEADERS OF THIS CITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU. I WANT TO HEAR WHAT YOU ARE FOR IN ALL AREAS, NOT JUST WATER. WE CAN WALK AND CHEW GUM AT THE SAME TIME. WE CAN HAVE A LASER FOE KUSES ON ALL THE SOURCES OF WATER AND STILL MAKE THIS HAPPEN, AND I KNOW THAT YOU WILL DO IT, BECAUSE REALLY, THERE IS NO ALTERNATIVE. I WISHED WE HAD A BARGAIN BASEMENT PRICE FOR DESALINATION, I WISH WE COULD GO TO THE PAWN SHOP AND FIND DESALINATION AT A BARGAIN DEAL, BUT WE CANNOT. IT IS THE FUTURE THAT IS THE MOST EXPENSIVE, IF WE DO NOT TAKE THE REINS, AND I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> Mayor Pro Tem: THANK YOU, MR. VON WADE. MARK MÜNSTER. I DON'T SEE MR. MÜNSTER. MARK MÜNSTER, ONCE AGAIN. DR. ISABEL ARAIZA. >> STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD AND YOUR TOWN -- OR YOUR CITY. >> ISABEL ARAIZA, DISTRICT 2, COFOUNDER FOR THE GREATER GOOD. I'M DISGUSTED BUT NOT SURPRISED AT THE MAYOR AND THE CITY PILLAGE GER -- I MEAN MANAGER, HAVE ELECTED TO BRING DESALINATION BACK. YOU ARE SHOWING THE COASTAL BEND AND THE CORPUS CHRISTI RESIDENTS WHAT WE GET WHEN WE ELECT PEOPLE BOUGHT BY HEAVY INDUSTRY. HEAVY INDUSTRY GAVE ALMOST $300,000 TO THE COASTAL BEND COALITION WHICH SPENT OVER $719,000 TO ELECT HEAVY INDUSTRY BOOT LICKERS, BUT THAT'S NOT ALL THEY GOOD. FOR THE GREATER GOOD ANALYZED THE CAMPAIGN FINANCE REPORTS AND Y'ALL DIDN'T MAKE IT EASY. MANY OF YOUR DONORS DIDN'T LIST THEIR OCCUPATION, WHO THEY WORK FOR OR WHAT BUSINESSES THEY OWN BUT WE HAVE SMART MEMBERS WITH AMAZING RESEARCH SKILLS. IN 2024, MAYOR [INDISCERNIBLE] RAISED 166,000, MARK SCOTT RAISED 91,000, ROW BAND LA ERRA RAISED 74,000, EVERETT ROY RAISED $70,426. A BASIC CODING OF YOUR DONORS -- [LAPSE IN AUDIO] -- YIELDED $100,000 FOR YOUR ELECTION. AS FAR AS I CAN TELL THEY'RE GETTING OFF PRETTY CHEAP. THEY EXPECT A $1.2 BILLION DESAL PLANT AND AN EXTRA 150 MILLION-GALLONS OF WATER A DAY. IT'S REPULSIVE TO ME THAT YOUR STILL SEEKING DESAL. IN AUGUST THE CITY BILLED FOR LESS THAN 140 MILLION-GALLONS A DAY, SO YOU'VE MORE THAN DOUBLED YOUR WATER SUPPLY BUT YOU'RE STILL PURSUING DESAL. THAT EXTRA 120 MILLION-GALLONS ISN'T ENOUGH FOR YOUR SUGAR DADDIES? I WANT TO KNOW WHAT YOU AND CORPUS CHRISTI ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION ARE HIDING FROM THE PUBLIC BECAUSE YOUR ACTIONS AND YOUR CAMPAIGN FINANCE REPORTS REEK OF CORRUPTION. BRINGING MORE HEAVY POLLUTING WATER GUZZLING KORMINGSES TO OUR AREA IS NOT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, IT'S AN INFESTATION. LOOK AT THE HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE SHOWN UP AND KEPT SHOWING UP TO SAY THAT THEY DON'T WANT DESAL OR MORE INDUSTRIAL EXPANSION. LOOK AT THE RESIDENTS OF ROBSTOWN CALALLEN INGLESIDE ROCKPORT, INGLESIDE ON THE BAY, TAFT, GREGORY AND PORTLAND THAT HAVE SAID THAT THEY DIDN'T WANT DESAL OR AN AMMONIA PLANT OR MORE INDUSTRIAL EXPANSION. LOOK AT THE PORTLAND RESIDENTS WHO HAD TO FILE A CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT AGAINST VOLSTPINE FOR DANIELING THEIR HOMES, CARS AND OTHER PROPERTY. LOOK AT THE PEOPLE THAT LOST THEIR LIVES IN THE EXPLOSION IN THE CHANNEL. WE DON'T WANT THE DEBT OR THE MAINTENANCE COSTS, WE DON'T WANT THE RISK, WE DON'T WANT ALL THOSE NEGATIVE CONSEQUENCES. WHY ARE POLLUTERS PROFITS MORE IMPORTANT TO YOU THAN THE PEOPLES' WELL-BEING. THE BOOTS YOU LICK THREATEN PEOPLE'S LIVES. YOUR EMBARRASSING AND YOU'RE A DISAPPOINTMENT. BUT I HAVE COME TO EXPECT THIS FROM POLITICIANS WHO HAVE SOLD THEMSELVES, OUR WATER AND OUR PEEPP L TO HEAVY POLLUTERS. >> Mayor Pro Tem: THANK YOU, DR. ARAIZA. MRS. SUZIE SALDAÑA. AND MR. MÜNSTER, I'LL GET TO YOU. >> SUZIE SALDAÑA, DISTRICT 2. I CAME TODAY TO TALK TO THE MAYOR AND SINCE SHE'S NOT HERE, I WANT THIS ON THE RECORD. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU GUYS UNDERSTAND THAT I WAS HIGHLY DISAPPOINTED IN THE STATE OF THE DISTRICT BECAUSE IT WAS MORE OF A CAMPAIGN RALLY FOR THE MAYOR. I WAS DISAPPOINTED AND I WAS APPALLED THAT ALL OF YOU ENDED UP IN THE BACK OF THE ROOM. THAT WAS DISAPPOINTING AND EMBARRASSING. IT WAS EMBARRASSING BECAUSE YOU REPRESENT "WE THE PEOPLE" AND I WAS HIGHLY DISAPPOINTED IN THAT. MORE DISAPPOINTED THAN OUR CITY MANAGER NOT EVEN BEING CALLED TO STAND UP DURING THAT STATE OF THE CITY, WHICH WASN'T A STATE OF THE CITY. BUT THERE WERE TWO PEOPLE THAT YOU NEED TO LOOK AT, THE MAYOR AND THE UNITED CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, BECAUSE BOTH OF THEM HAD TO KNOW WHAT THE SEATING ARRANGEMENTS WERE AND WHAT THIS WAS ALL ABOUT, AND NO ONE KNEW WHAT WAS GOING TO BE SAID EXCEPT ONE PERSON. AND THAT PERSON NEEDS TO KNOW THAT SHE DOES NOT RUN THE CITY. THE CITY IS RUN BY THE PEOPLE WE ELECT. IT'S VOTES THAT COUNT, AND THE MAJORITY OF THE VOTES THAT COUNT. SO THIS IS FOR THE RECORD. IF YOU WERE SATISFIED, SHAME ON YOU. BUT SHAME ON HER FOR HAVING CAUSED THIS TO COME TO PLAY. THERE IS NO ROOM, ABSOLUTELY NO ROOM FOR INDIVIDUALS IN THIS COUNCIL. I WANT TO HEAR SOMETHING ABOUT UNITY AND WORKING TOGETHER. I WANT TO HEAR ABOUT US MOVING AHEAD AND PAYING ATTENTION TO THE ONE EMPLOYEE YOU HAVE, WHICH IS RIGHT THERE. ONE EMPLOYEE. YOU DON'T HAVE ANYBODY ELSE. YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO ASK ANYTHING OF ANYONE ELSE EXCEPT ONE PERSON, HIM. THE CITY MANAGER. THAT'S THE ONLY EMPLOYEE YOU HAVE. YOU HAVE NO OTHERS. HE HAS THE OTHER EMPLOYEES, AND THEY ANSWER TO HIM, NOT TO YOU. SO I WANT YOU TO BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU SAY AND WHAT YOU DO BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE WATCHING. THE WATER WOLVES, WE STILL HAVE THEM. AND THEY'RE GOING TO CONTINUE UNTIL YOU GUYS WORK TOGETHER. WE NEED WATER IN THE SHORT TERM AND WE NEED IT IN THE LONG TERM, SO I NEED YOU TO LOOK AT BOTH OF THEM, INCLUDING DESAL. THANK YOU. >> Mayor Pro Tem: THANK YOU, MS. SALDAÑA. MELISSA ZAMORA. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD, THANK YOU. >> ME MELISSA ZAMORA, CORPUS CHRISTI DISTRICT 2. I'M TIRED OF COMING BACK HERE FOR THE SAME THINGS, BUT THIS IS THE LEAST I COULD DO. YEAH. I'VE GOT SO -- I WAS SO EXCITED, SO PRIDEFUL FOR THE CITY TO MAKE A RIGHT DECISION ABOUT SAYING NO TO THE INNER HARBOR, I WAS LIKE YES! WE'RE FINALLY ON THE RIGHT TRACK. AND THEN, OF COURSE, IT'S COMING BACK. I FEEL LIKE IT WAS ALWAYS IN THE STATE'S HANDS. I FEEL LIKE EVEN BEFORE IT GOT TO THE CITY COUNCIL, THE STATE ALREADY HAD THEIR MIND MADE UP ABOUT CORPUS CHRISTI BAY. THEY'RE LIKE, OH, IT'S ALREADY SACRIFICED ZONE, THERE'S ALREADY SO MANY INDUSTRY THERE, LET'S JUST PUT IT DOWN THERE BECAUSE IT WILL JUST MAKE IT EASIER, AND HOUSTON'S ALREADY OUT OF AIR ATTAINMENT, CORPUS CHRISTI THEY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH MONITORS TO BE ABLE TO BE IN NONATTAINMENT. BUT OUR AIR IS CLEAN, AS FAR AS WE KNOW. BUT WE NEED MORE MONITORING FOR SURE. RHETORICAL QUESTIONS, WHY SHOULD OUTSIDE CORPORATIONS DICTATE OUR WATER FUTURE? CORPUS CHRISTI BAY IS THE LIFEBLOOD OF OUR ECOLOGY, OF OUR CULTURE AND ECONOMY, DESALINATION IS RISKY AND EXPENSIVE. EVERY GALLON DIVERTED FOR INDUSTRY IS ONE LESS FOR RESIDENTS, ECOSYSTEMS AND SMALL BUSINESSES. STOP SELLING OUT OUR BAY, OUR PEOPLE AND OUR STATE. ALTERNATIVES ARE COST EFFECTIVE AND TRULY SUSTAINABLE WATER SOLUTIONS LIKE REUSING, CONSERVATION, LEAKAGE REPAIR AND RAIN CAPTURE WHEN IT DOES RAIN, WE NEED TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT. I WOULD LOVE TO SEE A THRIVING CORPUS CHRISTI WHERE THE BAY IS SUSTAINED, NOT POLLUTED, AND AS A SYMBOL OF PRIDE WHERE WE INVEST IN INNOVATION THAT DOESN'T DESTROY WHAT MAKES OUR COAST AND HOME SO SPECIAL. WHY CAN'T WE INVEST IN THOSE KINDS OF THINGS? WHY DO WE HAVE THOUGH INVEST IN INDUSTRIES THAT DO SO MUCH DAMAGE, THAT USE SO MUCH RESOURCES? JUST BECAUSE IT'S ALWAYS BEEN DONE DOESN'T MEAN WE HAVE TO KEEP DOING IT. WHY CAN'T WE BE DIFFERENT? WE KNOW YOU CARE ABOUT CORPUS CHRISTI'S FUTURE OR ELSE YOU WOULDN'T BE HERE. THAT'S WHY WE ARE ASKING, PLEADING, DEMANDING, YOU TO STAND WITH THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE, NOT CORPORATIONS THAT WILL LEAVE ONCE ALL THE WATER AND THEIR PROFITS DRY UP. CAN WE PLEASE PUT THIS LARGE ISSUE ON THE CITY BALLOT SO THAT PEOPLE CAN ACTUALLY VOTE WHETHER WE SUPPORT THIS OR NOT. THIS WAY IT WOULD NOT BE ALL ON YOU TO MAKE THAT DECISION, IT WOULD TRULY BE THE PEOPLE'S. ON ANOTHER NOTE, I SPOKE WITH THE CITY WORKER RECENTLY AND ASKED THEIR OPINIONS ON THE DESALINATION INNER HARBOR, AND EVEN THEY DISCREDIT THE MAYOR'S DECISION AND CONTINUE PUSHING FOR THIS PROJECT. THEY ALSO SHARED AFTER WORKING FOR THE CITY FOR SEVERAL YEARS, THEY WERE EXCITED TO FINALLY GET A RAISE AND THEY ONLY GOT 30 CENTS AFTER WORKING FOR THE CITY FOR OVER EIGHT YEARS. THAT ENDED UP GETTING DEDUCTED FROM HIGHER INSURANCE RATES. SO PUT PEOPLE OVER PROFIT. >> Mayor Pro Tem: THANK YOU, MRS. ZAMORA. MR. ALEJANDRO BENAVIDES, MR. ALEJANDRO BENAVIDES. MR. MÜNSTER HAS SOME FANS. SAMUEL FRYER. MR. FRYER, NOR THE RECORD, Y YOUR NAME AND CITY. . >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL. I'M SAMUEL ANDRE FRYER, DISTRICT 4. I WANT TO READ FROM PSALM 33. SING FOR JOY, YOU RIGHTEOUS PRAISE IS FITTING FOR THE UPRIGHT. SING PRAISES TO HIM WITH A 10-STRING LYRE, SING TO HIM A NEW SONG [READING] FOR THE WORD OF THE LORD IS UPRIGHT AND ALL HIS WORK IS DONE IN FAITHFULNESS. LE LOVES RIGHTEOUSNESS AND JUSTICE. THE EARTH IS FULL OF HIS LOVE. [READING] AND ALL THEIR HOSTS BY THE BREADTH OF HIS MOUTH. HE GATHERS THE WATERS AND THE SEA TOGETHER IN A HEAP, HE LAYS UP DEEP WATERS IN STORE HOUSES. LET ALL THE EARTHS FEAR [INDISCERNIBLE] LET ALL THE INHABITANTS OF THE WORLD STAND IN ALL OF HIM, FOR HE SPOKE AND IT CAME TO ME. HE COMMANDED AND IT FIRM. THE PLAN OF [INDISCERNIBLE] STANDS FOREVER, THE PURPOSE OF HIS HEART FROM GENERATION TO GENERATION. BLESSED IS THE NATION WHO'S GOD IS ADONAI, THE PEOPLE HE CHOSED FOR HIS OWN INHERITANCE. >> MAYOR PRO TEM. >> Mayor Pro Tem: MR. FRYER, I WANT TO ALLOW YOU TO CONTINUE. -- MAYBE PERHAPS IN THE FUTURE YOU COULD CONVEY TO US HOW THIS IS RELATED TO CITY BUSINESS. YEAH, THEY'VE STOPPED THE CLOCK. >> LOST 10 SECONDS. >> Mayor Pro Tem: I'LL GIVE YOU ANOTHER 10 SECONDS, OKAY. >> BUT I'M GOING TO -- >> Mayor Pro Tem: WOULD YOU PLEASE ADVISE US HOW IT RELATES TO CITY BUSINESS AND THEN I'LL ALLOW YOU TO CONTINUE. >> IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT I SIGNED UP FOR, IT SAYS PRAYER, AND THERE'S AN ACTUAL PURPOSE FOR THAT. >> Mayor Pro Tem: COULD YOU PLEASE CLARIFY THAT TO START WITH SO WE MAY ALLOW YOU TO CONTINUE. IT'S JUST THE READING OF SCRIPTURE, ALTHOUGH I -- I -- I COMMEND, IS NOT PARTICULARLY RELATED TO CITY BUSINESS, SO PLEASE SHARE WITH US HOW IT'S RELATED TO CITY BUSINESS. >> IF YOU LET ME FINISH -- >> Mayor Pro Tem: SIR, I'M -- >> EVERYTHING THAT SAYS IT IS RELATED BECAUSE IT'S A LEAD IN TO WHAT I'M GOING TO SAY. MAYOR PRO TEM MAIRMT I'M GOING TO ASK YOU ONE MORE TIME. PLEASE ALLOW US -- PLEASE SHARE WITH US HOW THIS RELATES TO CITY BUSINESS, AND IN ORDER FOR YOU TO CONTINUE. IF NOT, THEN I'M GOING TO -- >> WHAT I'M GOING TO DO IS I'M GOING TO READ -- I'M GOING TO SAY WHAT I WANT GOING TO SAY AND THEN I'M GOING TO GO PACK AND FINNISH THE SCRIPTURE. >> Mayor Pro Tem: ALL I'M ASKING YOU, SIR, I'M GOING TO ASK YOU ONE LAST TIME AND THEN I'M GOING TO ASK YOU TO SIT DOWN. PLEASE SHARE US -- I WANT TO ALLOW YOU TO CONTINUE, PLEASE JUST SHARE WITH US -- >> THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.MR. P- >> OKAY. MR. FRYER, I'LL ALLOW IT, BUT I WOULD RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT YOU BE A LITTLE BIT MORE -- GRANT US A LITTLE MORE LATITUDE BECAUSE WE NEED TO BE CONSCIENTIOUS ABOUT THAT. THIS LAST TIME, AT LEAST WHILE I'M PRESIDING. I'M GOING TO GIVE HIM 10 SECONDS. NO, NO, NO, SHE'S NOT GOING TO PUT THE TIME OUT. I'LL TELL HER WHEN TO BEGIN. [SIMULTANEOUS SPEAKING]. >> GOVERNMENT IS ONE OF THE SEVEN SOCIETAL SPHERES OF INFLUENCE. EDUCATION IS THE OTHER. THE LAW EXPLAINS THE 10 COMMANDMENTS IN THE PUBLIC SCHOOLS BUT UNFORTUNATELY IT DOESN'T APPEAR THAT WE UNDERSTAND FROM WHERE THOSE COMMANDMENTS COME. THE FOUNDERS OF OUR NATION MADE A COVENANT WITH HIM. UNLIKE THAT COVENANT, HE MADE A UNILATERAL COVENANT WITH ABRAHAM, ISAAC AND JACOB WHOSE NAME HE CHANGED TO ISRAEL. HE IS THE CRATER OF THE HEAVENS AND THE EARTH. HE ESTABLISHED ISRAEL AS THE PUPIL OF HIS EYE, HIS VISION OF SALVATION FOR ALL HUMANITY DEMONSTRATING THAT HE ALONE WAS THE ONE TRUE GOD IN A PAGAN AND PLURALISTIC WORLD. HE GAVE OF HIMSELF AND HIS LOVE YET HE STANDS -- YET WE STAND AS CORPUS CHRISTI, THE BODY OF CHRIST, IN UTTER DEFIANCE OF HIM BY ALLOWING FOR PRAYER TO ANOTHER. AND THAT RELIGION IS COMING WITH 33 TYPES OF DEITIES. ABA HAVE MERS ON US. MERCY ON US. HE TBAIZS AT ALL INHABITANTS OF THE EARTH. HE WHO FASHIONS, NO KING IS SAVED BY HIS GREAT ARMY, NO WORRIER IS DELIVERED BY HIS GREAT STRENGTH. A HORSE IS A FALSE HOPE OF VICTORY, NOR CAN ITS GREAT STRENGTH SAVE. BEHOLD THE EYES OF ADONAI ARE ON THOSE WHO FEAR HIM AND KEEP THEM ALIVE IN FAMINE. OUR SOUL WAITS FOR ADONAI, HE IS OUR HELP AND OUR SHIELD, OUR HEART REJOICES IN HIM BECAUSE HE TRUSTS IN HIS HOLY NAME. WE TRUST IN HIS HOLY NAME. PLEASE READ PSALM 33 FOR YOURSELF AGAIN AND ACT ACCORDINGLY. THANK YOU. >> Mayor Pro Tem: MR. FRYER, I JUST WANT TO COMMENT, I STILL AM UNAWARE HOW THAT RELATES TO CITY BUSINESS AND I WOULD PLEASE ASK THAT -- AND PERHAPS YOU AND I CAN DISCUSS IT AFTERWARDS. SIR, SIR, SIR SH I WOULD PLEASE ASK IN THE FUTURE BECAUSE WE DO NOT WANT TO -- WE WANT TO HAVE A LEVEL OF CONSISTENCY. AND IF WE ALLOW INDIVIDUALS THAT DON'T MAKE IT CLEAR WHAT THE CITY BUSINESS IS, IT PUTS US IN A VERY DIFFICULT PREDICAMENT. I'LL BE HAPPY TO DISCUSS IT WITH YOU ANOTHER TIME. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. >> THANK YOU. >> Mayor Pro Tem: MR. RON GRAYMAN. >> RON GRAYMAN, DISTRICT ONE. A COUPLE WEEKS AGO I CAME AND I ASKED IF WE COULD HAVE A MEETING WITH THE PARKS AND REC DEPARTMENT. THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN VAUGHN, FOR BEING THERE. THANK YOU TO THE POLICE, ESPECIALLY, WHO WERE EXTREMELY ENLIGHTENING ABOUT SOME CONFUSION THAT WE ALL HAD. SINCE THEN, THERE'S BEEN TWO SUBSEQUENT MEETINGS, ROBERT DODD IS STELLAR, AS WELL AS SERGIO GONZALES. I MET WITH THEM TWO ADDITIONAL TIMES AND WE'VE WORKED OUT THINGS AND WE ALL UNDERSTAND AND WE'VE ALL LEARNED A LITTLE BIT FROM EACH OTHER ON THAT ONE. SO I APPRECIATE THAT. AND I APPRECIATE THE JOB THAT ALL OF YOU DO. I APPRECIATE OUR CITY MANAGER, I KNOW I'M PROBABLY NOT ABLE TO TALK TO HIM DIRECTLY, SO IF YOU HAPPEN TO SEE HIM, TELL HIM I APPRECIATE HIM, OKAY. AND THE WORK THAT HE DOES. I THINK Y'ALL OWBT TO DOUBLE HIS SALARY AND SIGN HIM TO A 40-YEAR CONTRACT, IF THAT'S POSSIBLE. THE WATER ISSUE IS AN ISSUE, AND I THINK WE ALL UNDERSTAND THAT. AND A REPRESENTATIVE FORM OF GOVERNMENT, I HAVE GIVEN MY ALLEGIANCE TO THE NINE OF YOU, THE 10 OF YOU, TO DO WHAT'S BEST ON MY BEHALF. I MAY COME AND ASK YOU, HEY, CONSIDER THIS, BUT I'M RELYING ON ALL OF YOU TO DO YOUR HOMEWORK, TO DO YOUR RESEARCH, AND MAKE BETTER DECISION THAN WHAT I'M ABLE TO MAKE, BECAUSE I'M NOT CONNECTED TO IT. I DON'T -- I'M NOT SUPPOSED TO KNOW AS MUCH AS ALL OF YOU. AND I APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT YOU DO TO TRY AND DETERMINE WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH OUR WATER SUPPLY. YOU GO AROUND THE WORLD AND DESAL IS THE WAVE OF THE FUTURE. THEY TRIED TO PUMP IN SAUDI ARABIA, THEY FOUND OUT THAT THAT DIDN'T WORK VERY WELL. GO TO AWES TRAILER YEAH, THEY FOUND OUT THEY CREATED AN ENVIRONMENTAL PROBLEM DOWN THERE. I KNOW OUR FAMILY HAS A SHEEP FARM DOWN THERE. IT'S A PROBLEM DOWN THERE. SO I KNOW PRICE IS AN ISSUE. SOME ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENT. I'D LIKE TO THINK I'M AN ENVIRONMENTALIST, I'VE PLANTED MORE TREES PROBABLY THAN ANYBODY IN THIS ROOM, I'VE LAID MORE SOD THAN PROBABLY ANYBODY IN THIS ROOM, I KNOW HOW TO GET MY HANDS DIRTY IN THE DIRT. I APPRECIATE ENVIRONMENTALISM. BUT LET ME SAY, IT'S A LITTLE BIT DISENGINOUS TO SAY THAT THERE'S INJURIES THAT POLLUTE AND WE GO AND USE THE PRODUCTS FROM THOSE INDUSTRIES. WE ALL PUT GAS IN OUR CARS, WE ALL DRIVE CARS, WE ALL USE ELECTRICITY, WE ALL LOVE AIR CONDITIONING, AND ALL THAT COMES FROM INDUSTRY. SO IF WE'RE GOING TO CHASE OUT INDUSTRY, LET'S BE CONSISTENT, AT LEAST, AND NOT USE THEIR PRODUCTS. THE OTHER THING I WANT TO MENTION IS THAT WE QUESTION THE DESAL SCIENCE, BUT WE ACCEPT THE DR. FAUCI SCIENCE, AND JUST THINK ABOUT THAT. THANK YOU. >> Mayor Pro Tem: THANK YOU, MR. GRAYMAN. SELENA OBREGON BENAVIDES. SELENA OBREGON BENAVIDES. OKAY. ERIC PAYNE. >> MR. PAIN, FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR CITY. THANK YOU. >> ERIC PAYNE, CORPUS CHRISTI, DISTRICT 2. I WAS HERE A MONTH AGO APPROXIMATELY WHEN THIS PROJECT WAS REJECTED STRONGLY BY THE CITY COUNCIL HERE, TO WHICH I'M VERY GRATEFUL. AND NOW IT'S LIKE A MONTH LATER AND IT'S LIKE NONE OF THAT HAPPENED. IT'S VERY DISCOURAGING, TO SAY THE LEAST. AND, YOU KNOW, NOTHING -- I'M NOT AWARE OF ANYTHING DIFFERENT, I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY NEW OFFERS, AND WHAT'S -- WHY IS THIS BEING BROUGHT FORTH? WHY WAS IT HERE IN THE FIRST PLACE? AND, OF COURSE, THERE'S THE ISSUE OF WATER, BUT I STILL THINK THAT THIS -- THIS PROJECT WOULD CAUSE MORE HARM THAN GOOD, AND I REJECT THAT THIS -- THIS PROJECT IS INEVITABLE. AND MOST PEOPLE, I THINK, AT LEAST WHEN I WAS -- WHEN I -- AFTER I TALKED TO PEOPLE AFTER BEING HERE, MOST -- MANY PEOPLE WEREN'T EVEN AWARE THAT THIS IS NOT FOR OUR PEOPLE, FOR OUR CITIZENS, IT'S FOR THE BIG INDUSTRIES. AND SO IT SEEMS THAT THE JUSTIFICATION IS BUILDING THE ECONOMY AND TREATING OUR GOVERNMENT LIKE A BUSINESS. AND I REJECT THAT. CORPUS CHRISTI IS NOT A BUSINESS, IT IS NOT -- IT IS NOT RUN ON A PROFIT MOTIVE. WE DON'T HAVE AN OWNER, WE DON'T HAVE STOCKHOLDERS, I KNOW I DON'T RECEIVE ANY DIVIDENDS OR UBIS, AND WE DON'T HAVE A CEO TO BE DIVERTING ALL INCOME TO THE TOP, TO THE OWNERS, TO THE NONEXISTENT STOCKHOLDERS ANDY VERTING RESOURCES AWAY FROM THE WORKING PEOPLE. MONEY, TAX MONEY, INFRASTRUCTURE, WHAT WE NEED IS OUR CITY TO BE INVESTING OUR MONEY, OUR TAX MONEY INTO CITY INFRASTRUCTURE AND TO EDUCATION, TO HEALTH, TO ROADS, ET CETERA, AND WHEN NECESSARY, PROTECTING US WITH REGULATIONS OR LAWS AND IF COMPANIES ARE -- FEEL BECAUSE OF THAT THEY CAN'T WORK HERE, I SAY FINE. WE'LL FIND OTHER PARTNERS AND WE'LL TAKE CARE OF OURSELVES. PEOPLE SAY I'M PIE IN THE SKY, BUT I THINK THAT THE MODEL OF TREATING THE GOVERNMENT LIKE IT'S A BUSINESS IS -- IT'S JUST UNREALISTIC. AND THERE ARE DESAL ASKING THE QUESTION, WHAT ARE WE WAITING FOR? WHAT ARE WE WAITING FOR? AND I SAY WE'RE NOT WAITING. WE'RE ACTING NOW, AND I SAY NO TO DESAL AND YES TO CORPUS CHRISTI. >> Mayor Pro Tem: THANK YOU, MR. PAYNE. JASON HALE? > >> JASON HALE, CORPUS CHRISTI, GOOD EVENING COUNCILMEMBERS. TODAY I WANT TO ECHO WHAT MR. GRAYSON SAID WHEN HE TALKED TO RESIDENTS ABOUT THE INNER HARBOR, IS THE FINANCE, THE MAIN ISSUE THAT THEY HAVE? YOU KNOW, USUALLY WHEN I LISTEN TO RESIDENTS TALKING, IT'S THE ENVIRONMENT IS THEIR MAIN CONCERN. YOU KNOW, HOW WILL IT IMPACT THE ENVIRONMENT AND HOW WILL THAT AFFECT OUR COMMUNITY, RIGHT? BECAUSE THIS PLANT, THE INNER HARBOR PLANT, IS DEFINITELY GOING TO DEGRADE THE ENVIRONMENT RIGHT? THE QUESTION IS, IS HOW MUCH IS IT GOING TO DEGRADE OUR B BAYS ARE WE OKAY WITH THAT RIGHT? AND I THINK IN ORDER TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION, I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE THE MODELING THAT WE'VE BEEN ASKING FOR, WHICH STILL HAS NOT BEEN DELIVERED. SO THE REASON THAT'S IMPORTANT TO ME AT LEAST IS BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH THE CITY HAS BEEN IN A DROUGHT FOR THE PAST SIX TO SEVEN YEARS, OUR BAYS HAVE BEEN IN A DROUGHT SINCE THE -- YOU KNOW, PAST 40 YEARS, AND THAT'S BECAUSE OF US. AND IT'S PROJECTED TO GET WORSE, EVEN WITHOUT THE DESALINATION PLANTS IN THE BAY. THAT'S BECAUSE OF RISING TEMPERATURES, WHICH LEAD TO EVAPORATION, OR MORE EVAPORATION AND HIGHER SALINITIES. WE ALSO HAVE SEA LEVEL RICE, RISE, ALL OF WHICH IS VERY WELL DOCUMENTED AND DR. MON TANYA'S FULL ASSESSMENT FOR THE COASTAL BEND BAYS. I JUST WANTED TO DO A QUICK RECAP OF ASSESSMENTS OF THE INNER HARBOR PLANT. SO IN 2015, DR. TUNNEL WAS REQUESTED BY FREESE & NICHOLS TO ASSESS THE LOCATIONS THAT FREESE & NICHOLS WAS LOOKING AT. THEY SAID DON'T DO FULL SCALE AT INNER HARBOR, DON'T DO IT AT LA KEEN THAT, BERNIE DAVIS, IS IT OKAY. THIS YEAR WE HAD A SCIENTIST LINED UP TO LOOK AT GHD'S MODEL THAT THEY PUT TOGETHER USING THE CITY'S MONEY, BUT THE CITY WAS UNABLE TO GIVE THAT TO HIM TO LOOK AT. SO HE LOOKED AT THE CITY'S PERMIT MODELING. HE SAID IT WAS INSUFFICIENT. SO THE POINT I'M TRYING TO GET AT IS THE BAY DOES A LOT FOR US. IT'S -- YOU KNOW, IT ALLOWS US TO HAVE THE ECONOMY THAT WE HAVE. BUT WHAT DO WE DO FOR THE BAY OTHER THAN, LIKE, SYSTEMATICALLY TAKE IT APART PERMIT BY PERMIT OVER THE PAST 50 YEARS. NO ONE'S GOING TO SAVE US FROM OURSELVES, NOT THE TCEQ, NOT THE EPA. IT'S UP TO US. AND WE HAVE THE TOOLS TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS PLANT WILL BE SAFE, BUT WE'VE GOT TO USE THEM. SO I'M ASKING Y'ALL TO DO THE MODELING THAT WE'VE BEEN ASKING FOR TO MAKE IT PUBLICALLY AVAILABLE SO WE CAN CHECK IT AND I'M REQUESTING THAT Y'ALL DO THAT BEFORE ANY MAJOR DECISIONS ARE MADE. BECAUSE WE'RE KNOWN AS THE SPARKLING CITY BY THE SEA, AND NOT THE DULL CITY BY THE DEAD ZONES AND I WANT TO KEEP IT THAT WAY. THANKS. >> Mayor Pro Tem: THANK YOU, MR. HALE. CHRISTINA ENGLISH. YOUR NAME AND CITY FOR THE RECORD, THANK YOU. >> CHRISTINA ENGLISH, DISTRICT ONE. THE RULES OF DECORUM DEMAND RESPECT BE SHOWN BY CITIZENS. I'VE BEEN THINKING A LOT LATELY ABOUT RESPECT. MYSELF AND OTHER COMMUNITY MEMBERS ARE HERE WEEK AFTER WEEK DEMANDING THE MOST BASIC LEVELS OF RESPECT FROM THIS BODY AND RARELY RECEIVE IT. OUR SPEECH HAS BEEN INTERRUPTED SILENCED COMPLETELY AND SOME OF OUR MOST CHERISHED NEIGHBORS HAVE EVEN BEEN ARRESTED. WE'VE BROUGHT TO YOUR ATTENTION THE CASE LAW SUPPORTING OUR RIGHT TO THE SPEECH YOU'VE LIMITED. WE'VE BROUGHT UP YOUR RULES OF DECORUM SHOWING YOU YOUR OWN VIOLATIONS AND POINTING OUT RULES YOU'VE ENFORCED THAT DO NOT EXIST. MEANWHILE, THE MAYOR GIGGLES WHEN ANOTHER RESIDENT ASKS FOR AN EXTRA 30 SECONDS AND TAKES IT. WHEN YOU SIGN UP FOR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT AT 5:30 YOU'RE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE A GREAT DEAL OF INFORMATION. THE SIGNUP FORMS STATES THAT THIS INFORMATION IS NECESSARY FOR POTENTIAL FOLLOW-UP. IT'S NOT NECESSARY, IF YOU SPEAK ON AN ITEM, JUST ANOTHER RULE FOR THE SAKE OF A RULE AT THE CITY. I HAVE NEVER ONCE BEEN CONTACTED BY THE MAYOR, ANY OF MY COUNCILMEMBERS OR A MEMBER OF CITY STAFF TO FOLLOW UP ON MY EARNEST CLAIMS OF FIRST EAMENTD VIOLATIONS, AND CERTAINLY NOT TO APOLOGIZE FOREIGN FORCING A RULE THAT DID NOT EXIST. PERHAPS IF I WAS A CAMPAIGN DONOR, THIS BODY WOULD BE MORE RESPONSIVE. EVERY WEEK WE LISTEN TO THIS MAYOR MISADDRESSING COMMUNITY MEMBERS, SOMETIMES IT'S OMITTING AND HONOR IFIC, OTHERS IT'S MISGENDERING, BUT IT ALL DEMONSTRATES A LACK OF RESPECT AND CARE FOR THE PUBLIC WHO TAKES THEIR TIME TO PARTICIPATE IN LOCAL GOVERNMENT. THIS MAYOR HAS CLAIMED THAT SHE JUST SAYS WHAT'S ON THE PAPER, PEOPLE SHOULD SIGN UP AS THEY WISH TO BE ADDRESSED BUT TELL ME WHERE ON THE FORM WE SHOULD PLACE AN HONORIFIC OR OUR GENDER. I HAVE TWO SOLUTIONS TO YOU, ONE WOULD TAKE MONEY AND THE OTHER IS FREE. OPTION ONE, ADD AN HONORIFIC AND A GENDER SLOT AND THEN ADDRESS PEOPLE THE WAY THEY ADDRESS. THE SECOND FREE OPTION, THE ONE THAT I PREFER, IS JUST DON'T USE THEM. THE MAYOR SAYS THAT SHE'S GOING OFF THE INFORMATION THAT'S ON THE FORM, BUT SHE'S ACTUALLY USING THE LANGUAGE THAT SHE'S MOST COMFORTABLE WITH. SHE'S ASSUMING PEOPLES GENDERS WHEN SHE DECIDES FOR THEMSELVES IF SHE SHOULD THANK THEM AS MR. OR MRS. THANKING JANE FOR THEIR COMMENT WOULD SIMPLY BE THANK YOU RATHER THAN THANKING MR. OR MRS. DO. I'VE CREATE AD MAYOR PAULETTE GUAJARDO MASHUP EDITED FOR COMMON COURTESY. THANK YOU. DONALD HARRIS. ROBIN COX. THANK YOU. >> OH, MY GOSH. IT WAS SO EASY. I REALLY -- I CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT THE TONE OF HER VOICE. I'M SORRY. THAT IS WHAT IT IS, BUT WE GET THE IDEA. THANKS SO MUCH. >> Mayor Pro Tem: THANK YOU. ELI McKAY. >> SEEMS LIKE IT'S BEEN A WHILE Y'ALL. I DON'T KNOW. I GAVE Y'ALL A COUPLE WEEKS OFF AND IT'S A LITTLE CRAZY. ELI McKAY, LIVE IN BEAUTIFUL UPTOWN DISTRICT ONE, CORPUS CHRISTI, SO FIRST I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR HOSTING THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNIVERSAL SOCIETY OF HINDUISM TODAY FOR THE INVOCATION. IT WAS SO BEAUTIFUL AND WHILE I DO HAVE A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING OF THE IMPORTANCE OF SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE, UNLIKE SOME PEOPLE, I THINK IT IS IMPERATIVE, ESPECIALLY IN THE TIMES THAT WE'RE LIVING IN, TO HEIGHT AND UPLIFT THE MANY RELIGIONS THAT WE HAVE IN OUR COMMUNITY WITH RESPECT AND UNDERSTANDING, THAT THEY ARE EQUALLY VALUABLE TO ENSURING THIS CITY IS A SPIRITUALLY SAFE PLACE FOR EVERYONE. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. NOW ON TO THE REST OF MY COMMENT. SO IT IS CLEAR THAT OUR GOVERNOR IS AS CLUELESS ABOUT WHAT IS HAPPENING IN CORPUS CHRISTI AS HE IS ABOUT MANY OF THE THINGS, BUT HE DOES NOT -- THAT HE DOES, THAT DOES NOT R REPRESENTED TEXAS OR TEXAN VALUES. I FIND IT RIDICULOUS THAT WE HAVE THE MEDIA AND STATE ELECTED OFFICIALS BASHING THIS COUNCIL FOR NOT BUYING INTO A $1.2 BILLION THAT WOULD ONLY BRING 30 MGD WATER DAILY. I'M GOING TO SAY THIS REALLY CLEARLY FOR EVERYONE IN THE ROOM, AT THE LAST MEETING, YOU SIGNED ON TO TWO PROJECTS THAT WILL PROVIDE TWO AND A HALF TIMES AS MUCH WATER THAN THAT PROJECT AND AT 15% OF THE INITIAL COST. GREAT JOB. THE RECENT PROPAGANDA PIECES RELEASED BY THE MEDIA DO PROVE ONE THING: THESE BILLION DOLLAR COMPANIES ARE CAPABLE OF PAYING FOR SOMETHING, BUT IT ISN'T WATER. IT IS THE STATE-RUN MEDIA AND THE CORRUPT POLITICIANS WHO ARE BOUGHT AND PAID FOR. SURVEYS SENT BY SPECIAL INTEREST GROUPS WITH SMALL SAMPLE SIZES AND VAGUE LANGUAGE MEANT TO SWAY PUBLIC OPINION DO NOT REFLECT GENUINE PUBLIC OPINION, MY TOWN, AKA, GULF COAST PR TEAM, YOU WASTED YOUR MONEY. THE HYPAFIXATION ON THE INNER HARBOR PROJECT SHOWS TWO THINGS THE DEPTH OF YOUR IGNORANCE OR THE EXTENT OF YOUR CORRUPTION. KNOW THAT DESPITE THE ATTEMPTS AT MANIPULATION AND GAS LIGHTING, THE PEOPLE SEE THROUGH IT. WE KNOW THAT THIS COUNCIL HAS MADE MORE PROGRESS AND SECURED MORE WATER PROJECTS IN THE PAST 11 MONTHS THAN ANY COUNCIL SINCE THE MARY RHODES PIPELINE CAME ONLINE IN THE LATE '90S, BUT WHAT WE STILL DON'T KNOW IS HOW MUCH WATER WILL BE ENOUGH. FOR THOSE WHO ARE NOT UP TO SPEED, THERE IS CURRENTLY 118 MILLION-GALLONS DAILY IN THE WORKS ON THESE PROJECTS. AND ALL OF IT AVAILABLE TO CCW CUSTOMERS SOONER THAN THE ZOMBIE INNER HARBOR PROJECT WOULD BE, WHICH WOULD ALSO DECIMATE THE CORPUS CHRISTI BAY AND THE HISTORIC HILLCREST NEIGHBORHOOD. I WILL LEAVE YOU WITH THIS: IF ANY OF YOU WANT TO SEE THE ACTUAL STATE OF OUR CITY, YOU WILL GO TO ART WALK ON FIRST FRIDAY OR ATTEND ONE OF THE WEEKLY FARMER'S MARKETS ACROSS OUR CITY, THERE YOU WILL SEE THE TRUE NATURE AND POSSIBILITY OF OUR CITY IN THE SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS, THE ARTISTS, MUSICIANS AND THE ENTREPRENEURS, THANK YOU. >> Mayor Pro Tem: THANK YOU, ELI McKAY. ROBIN COX. >> HI, ROBIN COX, DISTRICT ONE. AND FIRST I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE STATE OF THE CITY. I WASN'T ABLE TO GO, DIDN'T GET AN INVITE, BUT I DID GET TO WATCH IT ON YOUTUBE. AND I THOUGHT, WOW, THEY NEED TO RENAME THIS. THIS WAS NOTHING LIKE SUZIE SAID, A PLOY FOR THE MAYOR. I THOUGHT AT THE END THEY WERE GOING TO PLAY HAIL TO THE QUEEN. IT WAS ACTUALLY QUITE EMBARRASSING. FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO HAD TO SIT IN THE BACK, ROSA PARKS ONCE SAID, YOU MAY SIT ME AT THE BACK OF THE BUS ONCE, BUT ONLY ONCE. I THINK JUSTIFICATION WOULD BE MAYBE NEXT TIME A CERTAIN MAYOR ISN'T EVEN INVITED ON THE BUS. BECAUSE IF WE GET -- WE GET IT OUR WAY, THE MEDIAN INCOME HERE IS ABOUT $38,000 A YEAR. BUT AS -- AND THOSE PEOPLE VOTE. AND WE'RE GOING TO GET IT OUT THIS TIME, WE'RE GOING TO GET OUT THE VOTE, MAYBE STOP THE MAIL-IN BALLOT, GET A DIFFERENT MAYOR IN. SO IF YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE CREDIT FOR EVERYTHING GOOD THAT HAPPENED, THE BRIDGE AND THINGS YOU DIDN'T EVEN -- YOU NEED TO TAKE CREDIT FOR EVERYTHING BAD. YOU CAN DO A COMMON PERPLEXITY AND FIND OUT CORPUS CHRISTI RANKED EIGHTH, EIGHTH, NOT IN THE BEST CITY TO LIVE IN, BUT IN ONE WITH THE HIGHEST CRIME. EIGHTH. ONLY UNDER DONNA, TEXAS, BEAUMONT, HOUSTON AND CUERO. CORPUS CHRISTI HAS ONE OF THE HIGHEST CRIME RATES, IN ADDITION TO PROPERTY CRIME, THEY ALSO HAVE VIOLENT CRIME, WELL ABOVE THE NATIONAL RATE. OUR HOMELESS PROBLEM, OUR HOMELESS PROBLEM IS INCREASING FASTER THAN DALLAS, McALLEN ANDRRHEA ROCA WHICH SITS ON THE BORDER. DON'T JUST TAKE CREDIT FOR THE GOOD, IF YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE CREDIT, TAKE CREDIT FOR THE BAD. IF YOU'RE THE LEADER, YOU SHOULD HAVE BEEN OVERSEEING THIS. WE HAVE ONE OF THE HIGHEST DRUG PROBLEMS, METHAMPHETAMINE PROBLEMS, NOT A GOOD THING TO BE PART OF IT. ONCE AGAIN, IF YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE CREDIT FOR THE GOOD, YOU BETTER TAKE CREDIT FOR THE BAD. REMEMBER, THIS IS YOUR COUNCIL, I KNOW MAYBE SHE'S NOT HERE TO HEAR THIS, BUT I'M SURE SHE'LL BE WATCHING IT, BECAUSE A NARCISSIST ALWAYS -- THEY CAN'T KEEP FROM SEEING WHAT THE PEOPLE ARE SAID ABOUT YOU. WE'RE WATCHING YOU. WE KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON. HOW DARE YOU PUT YOUR COUNCILMEMBERS IN THE BACK. YOU ONLY HAVE ONE VOTE. THIS TOOK ALL OF YOU TO MAKE THIS CITY, SO ALSO AS FAR AS THIS CITY BEING THE CROWN OF THE JEWEL, HAVE YOU DRIVEN HERE IN TRAFFIC TIME? BECAUSE I SAW A LOT OF SMOG. I WOULD UNIT CALL THAT THE CROWN OF THE JEWEL. SO ONCE YOU WANT TO SAY YOU'RE TAKING CREDIT FOR EVERYTHING BAD THAT'S GOING ON -- FOR EVERYTHING GOOD THAT'S GOING ON, YOU NEED TO TAKE CREDIT OF THE BAD. I'M PROUD OF THE ONES I HELPED GET ELECTED AND LET'S HELP CLEAN UP THIS CITY. WE DON'T NEED DESAL, WE DON'T NEED TO SEE WHO'S GETTING GREASED. WHEN DONORS GIVE YOU LARGE AMOUNTS OF MONEY, REMEMBER NO ONE GIVES MONEY WITHOUT WANTING A FAVOR. AND THEY COME -- FOR SOME OF YOU COUNCILMEMBERS THAT KEEP CHANGING YOUR MIND ON DESAL, I RESPECT THE ONES OF YOU I DON'T AGREE WITH MORE. A MAN WHO STANDS FOR NOTHING FAILS FOR EVERYTHING. SO LET'S ALL KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK THAT ARE FIGHTING AGAINST DESAL. I COMMEND MARK -- THANK YOU. >> Mayor Pro Tem: THANK YOU, ROBIN COX. AMANDA BRIELIN. NAME AND CITY FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE. >> OKAY. AMANDA BRIELIN, CORPUS CHRISTI, DISTRICT ONE. SO I WASN'T SURE AS TO WHETHER OR NOT I WANTED TO COME AND GIVE COMMENT TODAY, BUT, YOU KNOW, CONSIDERING EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON, I FELT IT WAS IMPORTANT. AND I HONESTLY DON'T BELIEVE ANY OF WHAT I HAVE TO SAY WILL HAVE A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON ANY OF Y'ALL, BUT I HOPE IT CAN REACH A FELLOW CITIZEN OR TWO. BRINGING BACK THIS DESALINATION PLANT IS A COMPLETE SLAP IN THE FACE TO THE CITIZENS OF THIS CITY. THE MAYOR AND THE SPINELESS COWARDS ON THIS COUNCIL WHO ARE NOW IN SUPPORT OF THIS PLANT ARE HIGHLIGHTING HOW LITTLE Y'ALL ACTUALLY CARE ABOUT THIS COMMUNITY. I WAS NEVER UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT Y'ALL HAD ANY SORT OF INTEGRITY, GIVEN THAT THE MAIN REASON MANY OF YOU VOTED AGAINST THE DESALINATION PLANT IN THE FIRST PLACE WAS BECAUSE OF COST. IT CAME DOWN TO DOLLAR SIGNS, NOT THE ENVIRONMENTAL RACISM, WHICH HAS AND WILL CAUSE THE DESTRUCTION OF CORPUS CHRISTI'S ONLY HISTORICALLY BLACK NEIGHBORHOOD, NOT THE HUNDREDS OF RESIDENTS WHO CAME HERE MEETING AFTER MEETING TO BEG Y'ALL TO LISTEN TO REASON. NOT THE POLLUTION OF OUR BAY, NOT THE STEALING OF OUR RESOURCES. THE WAY Y'ALL BEND OVER AND SPREAD Y'ALL'S CHEEKS FOR DOLLAR SIGNS IS EMBARRASSING. YOU CANNOT TAKE AND TAKE AND TAKE WITHOUT PAYING THE PRICE. AND YOU'RE FORCING THE CITIZENS AND THE ENVIRONMENT TO PAY THAT PRICE. GROW A BACKBONE AND PUT CITIZENS FIRST, NOT INDUSTRY. >> Mayor Pro Tem: THANK YOU, AMANDA BRIELIN. MARK MÜNSTER. >> I HAVE A PRESENTATION. MARK MÜNSTER, CORPUS CHRISTI. SO THE MOST COMMON THING WHEN I'M TALKING ABOUT ANTIDESAL THAT PEOPLE SAY IS WE NEED THE WATER. SO WHO IS "WE"? WHEN I EXPLAIN THAT RESIDENTS DON'T ACTUALLY USE THE WATER THAT THIS IS INTENDED FOR, IT'S ONLY GO TO MEET INDUSTRIAL DEMAND, THEY SAY WE DO NEED THE JOBS AND THERE'S A GHOST TOWN FALLACY. WITHOUT INDUSTRY THE CITY IS NOTHING AND THAT PEOPLE WILL LEAVE, ET CETERA. BUT CORPUS CHRISTI IS GEOGRAPHICALLY GIFTED CITY AND A GENTLEMEN ON THE TEXAS COAST, I DON'T KNOW WHAT CITY IS BETTER WITH THE BAY AND BEACHES. THE INCREASED POLLUTION AND THE EXPLOITATION OF OUR NATURAL RESOURCES, I THINK IT'S STILL A GREAT PLACE TO LIVE. THE GHOST TOWN THREAT IS A SCARE TACTIC THAT IGNORES THE CITY'S VALUE BEYOND BEING A PETROCHEMICAL TOWN. ZERO GHOST TOWN IS IF WE CENTER OUR CITY ON A DYING INDUSTRY. IF YOU SAY THAT ANY OF THESE PROJECTS ARE SCIENTIFICALLY SOUND THEN YOU NEED TO FOLLOW THE SCIENCE THE WAY OUR PLANET IS CHANGING. IT'S LIKE BEING STUCK IN A TOXIC RELATIONSHIP WHERE THEY SAY YOU'D BE NOTHING WITHOUT ME. OH, I JUST TURNED IT OFF. OKAY. SO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AT WHAT COST? WHAT IS THE FULL COST OF THESE IDAS? ENVIRONMENTAL, HUMAN HEALTH, ECOSYSTEMS, KILOWATTS WHAT'S THE IMPACT ON TRAFFIC, NOISE, AIR QUALITY, THE AESTHETICS. IS THERE ACCOUNTABILITY TO ENSURE THESE ARE EVEN BEING PROPERLY COLLECTED. THESE JOBS AND SUBSIDIES DIRECTLY REDUCE PUBLIC REVENUE THAT WOULD FUND PARKS, LIBRARIES, PUBLIC TRANSIT, PUBLIC SERVICES. OUR PUBLIC SERVICES SUFFER, AND PEOPLE LEAVE ALREADY TO SEEK NEW OPPORTUNITIES BECAUSE OF POLLUTION OR THEY FEEL THERE'S NOTHING TO DO OR FOR POOR INFRASTRUCTURE AND THE PUBLIC PAYS TWICE, ONCE WHEN SUBSIDIZING THESE RATES BECAUSE THEY DON'T USE THE WATER, AND THEN THROUGH THE PROPERTY TAXES, THROUGH THE IDAS, THEY DON'T GET THE SAME BREAKS. AND SO, YEAH, THIS SCREENSHOT IS FROM THE CORPUS CHRISTI REGIONAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION AND THE DISCUSSION ABOUT THESE WATER PROJECTS ARE FOR FUTURE PROJECTS, NOT WHAT'S ALREADY HERE. THE JOBS THAT ARE HERE, THEY ALREADY USE THAT WATER. THIS IS FOR IF THE WATER MAKES SENSE FOR THE FUTURE. THE LOST REVENUE -- I'M GOING TO SKIP TO THE LAST SLIDE. YOU SAW THIS SLIDE WHEN YOU WERE VOTING ON THE WATERCRESSES AND YOU HAD TO DECIDE IF YOU WERE GOING TO -- HOW MUCH YOU WERE GOING TO INCREASE THE WATER RATES AND YOU WERE DISCUSSING NOT FUNDING 4.3 MILLION FOR RESIDENTIAL INFRASTRUCTURE, BUT YOU WERE STILL -- YOU WOULDN'T FUND THAT WITHOUT RAISING PEOPLE'S RATES. BUT -- SO YOU'RE THREATENING, OH, IF WE DON'T INCREASE YOUR RATES, THE RESIDENTIAL INFRASTRUCTURE, WE'RE NOT GOING TO FUND IT. AND THAT JUST SHOWS YOU'RE NOT PRIORITIZING RESIDENTS, AND I MEAN, OF COURSE, WE KNOW THIS IS GOING TO COME BACK. THE BIG PICTURE HERE IS OIL AND GAS LOBBYING. IT'S NOT JUST A DISCUSSION BETWEEN NEIGHBORS WHO HAVE A DIFFERENT VIEW OF OUR FUTURE FOR THE CITY. WE KNOW WHO'VER WITH R EAR UP AGAINST AND PEOPLE AND PLANET OVER PROFITS. >> Mayor Pro Tem: THANK YOU, MARK MÜNSTER. OKAY, REBECCA, I GUESS THAT'S THE LAST OF THE IN-PERSON COMMENT. THERE IS AN OUT-OF-TOWN PERSON ON WEBEX VIDEO. >> City Secretary: YES, SIR. AND THEY ARE ONLINE, AND THAT'S FRANKY ORONA. >> YEAH. THANK YOU. MY NAME'S FRANKIE ORONA, I'M IN SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS, WE DO OWN PROPERTY IN INGLESIDE. I WANTED TO START BY SAYING THE DESALINATION PLANT IS DESIGNED FOR INDUSTRIAL GROWTH. YET AGAIN COMMUNITIES ARE BEING ASKED TO PAY FOR IT. THIS PROJECT IS NOT FOR PUBLIC PURPOSE, IT IS A TRANSFER OF PUBLIC RESOURCES TO PRIVATE INDUSTRY UNDER THE TEXAS CONSTITUTION AND THE TEXAS WATER CODE 13, RATES MUST BE JUST, REASONABLE AND FREE FROM UNDO PREFERENCE. SHIFTING COST TO HOUSEHOLDS WHILE SUPPLYING INDUSTRY VIOLATES THAT STANDARD. ANY DESAL FACILITY AFFECTING STATE WATERS TRIGGERS THE CLEAN WATER ACT REQUIREMENTS TO PREVENT DISPROO PORTION GNAT POLLUTION BURDENS. WHEN FEDERAL FUNDS OR PERMITS ARE INVOLVED, TITLE VI PROHIBIT ACTIONS THAT CREATE UNJUSTIFIED IMPACTS ON ALREADY OVERBURDENED COMMUNITIES. MAYOR PRO TEM. >> City Secretary: THANK YOU, MR. ORONA. YOUR TIME IS UP. WE APPRECIATE IT. >> Mayor Pro Tem: OKAY. THANK YOU. WE'RE ADJOURNED.