GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME I WILL CALL THIS BLOOMINGTON CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO ORDER ON MONDAY THE 1ST OF JULY. HOW DID THAT HAPPEN? GOOD TO SEE EVERYBODY HERE IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS AND WELCOME TO EVERYBODY JOINING US ONLINE AS WELL. WE WILL START OUR MEETING AS WE ALWAYS DO IF YOU'RE ABLE PLEASE RISE REMOVE YOUR CAPS AND JOIN IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL . ONCE AGAIN WELCOME TO EVERYONE. COUNCIL WELCOME. STAFF THANKS FOR BEING HERE AND THANKS TO EVERYBODY WATCHING TONIGHT. OUR FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS TONIGHT AS ALWAYS IS TO OUR AGENDA AND OUR AGENDA THIS EVENING IS PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD. WE HAVE WE HAVE NOTHING UNDER THE INTRODUCTORY AND UNDER A CONSENT BUSINESS WE DO HAVE 14 ITEMS SO MR. FAROOQ MR. MAYOR, I WAS JUST GOING TO REQUEST AN ORGANIZATIONAL BUSINESS ONCE YOU GET THROUGH IF CAN FLIP FLOP THOSE ITEMS I WAS TOLD I WAS GOING TO DO THAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU UNDER CONSENT BUSINESS WE'VE GOT 14 ITEMS ON OUR CONSENT CALENDAR TONIGHT COUNCIL DON D'ALESSANDRO HAS OUR CONSENT BUSINESS TONIGHT UNDER ITEM FOUR HEARINGS, RESOLUTIONS AND ORDINANCES WE HAVE THREE PUBLIC HEARINGS. THE FIRST IS A PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING THE VACATION OF DRAINAGE UTILITIES, SIDEWALK BOULEVARD FLOODING AND MAINTENANCE EASEMENTS AND OUR CITY ENGINEER JULIE LONG WILL BE PRESENTING THAT FOR US . WE HAVE TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS AND A 4.2 IS REGARDING THE STADIUM IMPROVEMENTS AT KENNEDY HIGH SCHOOL AND ITEM 4.3 IS REGARDING THE STADIUM IMPROVEMENTS AT JEFFERSON HIGH SCHOOL. UNDER OUR ORGANIZATION OF BUSINESS WE HAVE TWO ITEMS AND AS MR. FABBRI MENTIONED I COUNSEL IF WE COULD WOULD LIKE TO FLIP THEM. SO OUR ITEM 5.1 IS A STUDY ITEM REGARDING ADMINISTRATIVE STREAMLINED DEVELOPMENT STUDY AND ITEM 5.2 IS A STUDY ITEM REGARDING SINGLE ROOM OCCUPANCY OR CO-LIVING STANDARDS IN THE I'M WONDERING IF WE'RE GOING TO MAKE IT IN TIME TO BOTH OF THESE IN ITEM 5.2 IS A BIT MORE PRESSING. SO I WOULD LIKE IF COULD COUNSEL TO FLIP ITEM 5.1 AND 5.2 SO TO MAKE THIS SINGLE ROOM OCCUPANCY AND CORE LIVING STANDARDS AT IN 5.1 AND THEN WE WILL END OUR MEETING AS WE TYPICALLY DO WITH OUR COUNSEL UPDATES AND AND THAT WOULD BE OUR AGENDA THIS EVENING COUNSEL DO WE HAVE ANY ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS THIS EVENING? JUST A CLARIFICATION, ALESSANDRA. ON MY MY CHART IT SAYS THAT THE STUDY ITEM FOR AROS IS 5.1 AND THE STREAMLINED DEVELOPMENT APPROVALS IS 5.2. IS THAT AN ERROR IN MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS YOU FOR CATCHING THAT? COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO OUR COUNCIL SECRETARY MERCER WAS FASTER THAN I WAS TODAY SO SHE REPUBLISHED IT WITH THE PROPER ORDER ON THE AGENDA. SO IT IS AS IT AS IT'S PRESENTED TO U ALL WE'D LIKE TO DO SO SO WE WANT TO DO IT IN THE THANK YOU THAT IS PRESENTED. OKAY THANK YOU VERY MUCH. IT'S A NO SWITCH REQUIRED, MR. MAYOR. VERY GOOD. YEAH. OKAY. I STILL HAVE IT AS ITEM 5.2 BUT I MUST HAVE AN OLD AGENDA SO THAT'S FINE. THAT IS FINE WITH ALL OF THAT OUT OF THE WAY. ANYTHING TO ADD COUNCIL IF NOT I WOULD MOVE APPROVAL OF TONIGHT'S AGENDA SECOND GOT A MOTION ON A SECOND FOR THE APPROVAL OF TONIGHT'S AGENDA AS STATED NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO AND WE HAVE AN AGENDA NOTHING UNDER OUR INTRODUCTORY ITEMS THIS WEEK WILL RIGHT TO ITEM THREE OUR CONSENT BUSINESS COUNCIL MEMBER D'ALESSANDRO THANK YOU MR.. AS PER OUR TRADITION WE'LL HOLD 3.1 AROUND DONATIONS AND I DID HEAR FROM COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN THAT HE'D LIKE TO HOLD 3.4 DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY VOTES THEY YOU'RE OKAY WITH THAT THEN I'D LIKE TO MOVE ITEMS 3.23.3 AND 3.5 THROUGH 3.14 OF OUR CONSENT AGENDA SECOND MOST OF MY COUNLMEMBER DALLESSANDRO SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER CARTER TO ACCEPT TONIGHT'S CONSENT AGENDA AS STATED NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I I OPPOSED THE MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO UH I'M SORRY I THE 3.43.4 AND WHO WAS THAT COUNCILMEMBER WAS VERMILION MAYOR THIS RESOLUTIONS AUTHORIZING THE AMERICAN PLAN P EXPENDITURE RELATED TO BUDGET ADJUSTMENTS WITH FIBER OPTICS EXPANSION AND THE TREASURY DEPARTMENT IS A PART OF THAT AND I WOULD LIKE TO JUST NOT VOTE ON THAT PARTICULAR ONE WITH MY WORKING WITH THE TREASURY DEPARTMENT. THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER ANY OTHER COMMENTS AND ITEM 3.4 ALL RIGHT. COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO, IF YOU COULD. SURE. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I TO APPROVE BUDGET ADJUSTMENT RESOLUTION TO MOVE 300,000 $6,919.96 FROM THE 2015 FEDERAL RELIEF GRANTS FUND TO THE 7600 INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY FUND IN ORDER TO FUND FIBER AGAIN, MOST OF MY COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO CIRCLED MY COUNCILMEMBER CARTER TO ACCEPT ITEM 3.4 ON OUR CONSENT BUSINESS. NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I I OPPOSED AND ABSTAINED I SHOULD CARRY SIX ZERO WITH COUNCILMEMBER ALUMINUM STANDING ON THAT ONE ITEM 3.1 DALLESSANDRO THANK YOU MAYOR. AS ALWAYS WE'D LIKE TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO THE FOLKS WHO HAVE CONTRIBUTED DONATIONS TO THE CITY. WE HAVE A GENEROUS ORGANIZATION HERE IN THE COMMUNITY. BLOOMINGTON HAS ALWAYS BEEN VERY GENEROUS. WE ARE ACKNOWLEDGING BLUE CROSS BLUE SHIELD FOR A DONATION TO OUR JUNETEENTH PROGRAM THAT HAPPENED ON THE 15TH OF JUNE. I THINK WE ALSO HAD A DONATION FROM TYRONE TO COME BY AIKEN FOR A JUNETEENTH PAINTING IN COMMEMORATION OF THAT ACTIVITY AND WHICH WAS BEAUTIFUL AND YOU HAD NOT GOTTEN THE CHANCE TO SEE IT AS THE MENTIONED IN OUR LAST MEETING IT WAS A REALLY GREAT COMMUNITY EVENT. I HOPE TO BE AGAIN NEXT YEAR AND THEN FINALLY WE HAVE OUR FIRST DONATIONS MADE UNDER OUR NEW MEMORIAL PROGRAM WITH THE PARKS RECREATION DEPARTMENT AND SO THANK YOU TO ANN COULTER, TONY BRENNAN, COLLIER ,RICHARD AND SHIRLEY OLSON FOR THOSE DONATIONS. AND WITH THAT I WILL MOVE TO ACCEPT THOSE DONATIONS. SECOND, MOST OF MY COMES FROM OF DALLESSANDRO A SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER CARTER TO DONATIONS THIS EVENING AS LISTED UNDER ITEM 3.1 AND DIRECTING STAFF TO SEND THE APPROPRIATE THANK YOU LETTERS AS NECESSARY AND EVERY COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS HEARING ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSED CARRIES SEVEN ZERO THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO THANK YOU. MOVING OUT ITEM FOR THIS EVENING THESE ARE HEARINGS, RESOLUTIONS AND ORDINANCES AND OUR FIRST HEARING IS THAT IN 4.1 IT'S A PUBLIC HEARING WE'RE GOING INTO VACATION OF PUBLIC DRAINAGE UTILITY SIDEWALK BOULEVARD FOOTAGE AND MAINTENANCE EASEMENTS OVER AND ACROSS LOT ONE BLOCK ONE NINE MILE WEST SECOND EDITION HERE IN HENNEPIN COUNTY. JULIE LONG, OUR CITY ENGINEER IS WITH US THIS EVENING. GOOD EVENING. WELCOME. HI, MR. MAYOR. WE WOULD LIKE TO RECOMMEND POSTPONEMENT OF THIS PUBLIC HEARING. WE HAD A FIRST THAT OCCURRED WITH ENGINEERING. WE SENT THE NOTIFICATION INTO THE NEWSPAPER AND THEY PUBLISHED IT IN THE SUN CURRENT EDINA VERSION NOT THE SUN CURRENT BLOOMINGTON VERSION. SO LEGALLY WE ARE NOT IN COMPLIANCE SO WE WOULD LIKE A MOTION TO POSTPONE THE PUBLIC HEARING TO JULY 22ND. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. I GUESS WE DO THIS LONG ENOUGH WE SEE A LITTLE BIT OF EVERYTHING RIGHT? VERY GOOD. SO COUNCIL GIVEN AN EXPLANATION I WOULD LOOK I WOULD MOVE FOR A A CONTINUANCE POST POSTPONE TO THE DATE A POSTPONEMENT OF ITEM 4.1 UNTIL A WHAT WOULD IT BE OUR JULY JULY 22ND MEETING AND THEIR REPUBLISHING UNDER THE UH AND REPUBLISHING AND REPUBLISHING I AM SEEN JULY 22ND ON OUR CALENDAR HERE I SEE THAT THE 16TH, 25TH, 15TH AND 22ND I BELIEVE OVER THE NEXT TWO MEETINGS YEP. AGAIN AND WORKING WITH VERY INCOMPLETE STUFF IT'S NOT ONLINE SO OKAY SECOND I WILL MOVE FOR A DOWN TO THAT I WILL MOVE FOR A CONTINUANCE OF ITEM 4.1 UNTIL JULY 22ND OUR JULY 22ND MEETING SECOND MOTION AND A SECOND TO CONTINUE OUR POSTPONE ITEM 4.1 NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO MAKE MY LIFE DIFFICULT TONIGHT AND WE WILL MOVE TO ITEM 4.2. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING THE STADIUM IMPROVEMENTS AT KENNEDY HIGH SCHOOL AT 9701 NICOLLET AVENUE SOUTH. MR. CENTENARIO THERE HE IS FROM OUR PLANNING STAFF. WE'LL BE DOING THE PRESENTATION. HERE'S THE PLAN HERE WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS EVENING COUNSELOR? IF IT'S GOOD BYE EVERYBODY. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE STAFF MAKE A PRESENTATION THEN WE HAVE THE APPELLANTS WHO ARE PREPARED TO MAKE ABOUT A TEN MINUTE PRESENTATION AS WELL AND THEN WE WILL OPEN IT UP TO A HEARING AND WE'LL HAVE A DISCUSSION AND WE WILL HAVE THESE OF COURSE THESE ARE TWO SEPARATE ISSUES SO WELL WE HAVE TWO SEPARATE PUBLIC HEARINGS, ONE ON KENNEDY, ONE ON JEFFERSON. SO I'M GOOD WITH THAT. AND MR. MAYOR, IF I MAY ALSO HAVE THE APPLICANT DO A PRESENTATION FOLLOWING THE STAFF PRESENTATION PRIOR TO THE APPELLANT I MISSED THAT I FOR THAT DIDN'T MEAN TO TO MISS THAT MR. CENTENARIO GOOD EVENING WELCOME AMERICANS MEMBERS THIS IS A ITEM THAT YOU'VE SEEN RECENT AND RECENT PAST A LITTLE SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT APPLICATION BUT WE ARE HERE TO DISCUSS THE FINAL STADIUM BUILDING PLANS FOR KENNEDY HIGH SCHOOL ATHLETIC STADIUM AND THE ADDRESS IS ON NICOLLET YOU SAW THIS RECENTLY RELATED TO ENVIRONMENTAL WORKSHEET DETERMINATION. HOWEVER THIS IS FOR THE PHYSICAL IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE STADIUMS THEMSELVES. I ALWAYS WONDER WHAT WE HAVE TO DO TO MAKE THIS WORK AND IF I HAVE I CAN PRESENT FOR MY LAPTOP TO GO THERE. GO OF COURSE. ALL RIGHT AND HERE ON THE SLIDE IS THE TIMELINE TO DATE ORIGINALLY THIS APPLICATION WE RECEIVED BACK SEPTEMBER AND SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT FOR ABOUT A YEAR NOW ON THE THE STADIUM APPLICATIONS LONG ROAD TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY. IN THE MORE RECENT PAST THE PLANNING COMMISSION HELD A PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVED THE FINAL CITY BUILDING PLANS BACK IN JUNE THERE WAS A GROUP OF RESIDENTS WHO APPEALED THAT DECISION THE PLANNING COMMISSION COMMISSIONS DECISION THAT WAS RECEIVED ON JUNE 11TH AND WE'VE THEN SUBSEQUENTLY A MEETING OF THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR YOU TODAY. IT'S WORTH NOTING YOU'LL OFTEN HEAR ABOUT THE DISCRETION PYRAMID OR TRIANGLE LOW DISCRETION MEANING THE COUNCIL HAS LIMITED ABILITY TO LIMITED DISCRETION IN A PARTICULAR TYPE OF APPLICATION OF PERMITS BEING THE EXAMPLE OF THE LEAST . IF SOMETHING IS CODE COMPLIANT WE'RE OBLIGATED TO APPROVE IT AND THEN ON THE OPPOSITE END A LOT OF DISCRETION OR HIGH DISCRETION ARE YOUR REZONINGS AND COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENTS SITE OR FINAL SITE AND BUILDING PLANS IN THIS CASE IS ON THE ON THE MUCH LOWER WHERE WE'RE REALLY LOOKING FOR IS CODE COMPLIANCE CITY CODE COMPLIANCE AND TO ENSURE THAT THE FINDINGS THAT WE HAVE IN CITY CODE ARE BEING MET AND WE'LL TOUCH ON THEM TO IF THE EXISTING CONDITIONS AT KENNEDY HIGH SCHOOL. SO WE'RE IN THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF NICOLLET AND EAST OR TO BE ROAD I HAVE THE STADIUM AREA OUTLINED RED SO IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO NOTE THIS THE FIELD ITSELF IS EXISTING SO THE BLEACHERS THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED IN THE LIGHTING AS IS IN ADDITION TO THE EXISTING FIELD AND TRACK YOU CAN SEE THERE ARE SOME AT THE KENNEDY STADIUM TODAY OBVIOUSLY THAT APPLICATION WOULD INCREASE THOSE SUBSTANTIALLY FROM ABOUT 500 AND TOTAL OCCUPANTS TO 2500 AND IT'S NOT TERRIBLY CLEAR BUT THIS IS A SITE THEY WERE WE SEE THE STADIUM IMPROVEMENTS THEMSELVES ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE FIELD AND SO IN ADDITION TO THE BLEACHERS AND THE LIGHT POLES WOULD BE SOME MODIFICATIONS TO SOME TRACK AND FIELD ELEMENTS AND THEN NEAR THE ENTRANCE THERE WOULD BE SOME CHANGES ACCESSIBILITY YOU KNOW THERE'D BE SOME CONCRETE AREAS TO ALLOW FOLKS ENTER THE STADIUM AREA SAFELY AND THAT WOULD REMOVE SOME PARKING SOME PARKING RIGHT NEAR THE ENTRANCE BECAUSE IF THERE'S JUST SOME MORE SPACE NEEDED FOR BUSSES, DROP OFFS AND AND PEOPLE LITTLE CLOSER IN YOU CAN SEE THE BLEACHERS KIND OF OUTLINED IN GRAY ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE FIELD AND AGAIN NEAR THE ENTRANCE AREA. SOME OF THOSE STALLS WILL BE REMOVED BECAUSE YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY ARE SOME PEOPLE THAT WILL BE ATTENDING THE GAME AND THEY NEED SOME SPACE AWAY OR SEPARATE FROM VEHICULAR TRAFFIC AND BUSSES, THOSE SORTS OF THINGS. THERE IS NOT A CROSSWALK TODAY BETWEEN THE SCHOOL ITSELF AND THE STADIUM OR THE ATHLETIC FIELDS SO A CROSSWALK WOULD BE ADDED TO ALLOW BETTER PEDESTRIAN FLOW WHEN WE HAVE SITE PLAN APPLICATIONS WE DO PARKING ANALYSIS AND THE STANDARD THAT WE HAVE IS ONE THIRD OCCUPANCY AND SO THERE ISN'T AS MUCH ON SITE PARKING AS THERE IS AND THE JEFFERSON APPLICATION. AND SO ONE OF THE WAYS THAT WE CAN HAVE CODE COMPLIANCE IS THROUGH PROOF OF PROOF OF PARKING AND THAT'S WHAT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT IS PROPOSING TO DO HERE AND JUST IMMEDIATELY NORTH OF THE CENTER IS OCCUR IS AN EXISTING FIELD MANICURED TURF FIELD NEXT TO THE POND LEARNING CENTER AND THE IDEA WITH PROOF OF PARKING IS THAT IF THE THE USE ITSELF PROVES TO NEED IT NEED THE OR HAS THE PARKING DEMAND THAT THIS PARKING LOT COULD BE CONSTRUCTED IN THE FUTURE. HOWEVER, PROOF OF PARKING DOES NOT REQUIRE CONSTRUCTION SO IT'S A WAY TO DEMONSTRATE AN ABILITY TO MEET CITY CODE BUT IT ALLOWS PROPERTY OWNERS DEVELOPERS TO SAY YOU KNOW WHAT, WE'RE NOT WE DON'T THINK THIS WILL BE NECESSARY. AND PARKING LOTS ARE EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE. THEY ADD IMPERVIOUS SURFACE. THEY HAVE AN ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT AND SO THAT'S THE OPTION THAT'S BEING SOUGHT. SO REALLY THE MAIN PHYSICAL THAT IS PROPOSED ARE BLEACHERS AND THE LIGHT POLES THAT WOULD ILLUMINATE FIELD THEMSELVES. AND SO WHEN WE HAVE STRUCTURES OF COURSE WE LOOK AT BUILDING HEIGHTS AND IN THIS CASE THE MAXIMUM BUILDING IS 40 FEET THE BLEACHERS THEMSELVES AS CASINOS DRAWING ARE A LITTLE OVER 30 FEET. AND SO FROM A BUILDING HEIGHT PERSPECTIVE WE ARE IN COMPLIANCE AND YOU CAN SEE THAT THE DIMENSIONS BUT AGAIN THE BLEACHERS WOULD ONLY BE ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE OF THE FIELD. SO THIS WOULD BE THE ENTIRE EXTENT OF SEATING GEOGRAPHIC ON SURFACE PARKING THE CAMPUS IS A LITTLE MORE COMPACT CANDY AND WE HAVE 652 SURFACE STALLS. IT'S LIKELY THAT THIS WOULD BE MORE THAN ADEQUATE GIVEN THE ANTICIPATED DEMAND FOR PARKING ON SITE. THERE ARE ALSO STREET STALLS, STREET PARKING WHICH WE CAN'T COUNT TOWARDS MEETING THE REQUIREMENT BUT IT IS RELEVANT BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT FOLKS ARE GOING TO PARK WHEREVER IT'S MOST CONVENIENT AND THAT MIGHT BE THIRD AVENUE OR SOUTH OF 98TH STREET. SO WE INCLUDED THIS NO PARKING GRAPHIC JUST TO IDENTIFY THAT THERE WILL THERE WOULD BE SOME STREET PARKING OPPORTUNITY BUT IT DOESN'T GO INTO OUR CALCULATION OF CODE COMPLIANCE PROBABLY THE MOST YOU KNOW, I VENTURE TO SAY THE MOST SIGNIFICANT CONCERN THAT WE HAVE WITH THE APPLICATION IS RELATED TO NOISE AND WE DO HAVE SPCA AND CITY NOISE LIMITATIONS THEY'RE THE SAME LEVELS AND THOSE ARE DIVIDED BETWEEN DAYTIME AND NIGHTTIME 10 P.M. AS A CUT OFF BETWEEN DAYTIME AND NIGHTTIME. SO SUFFICE IT TO SAY THE ACTIVITIES THAT THE FACILITY WOULD WOULD NEED TO BE DONE BEFORE 10 P.M. SCHOOL DISTRICT HAS ACKNOWLEDGED THAT AND UNDERSTANDS IMPORTANT THAT IS BUT THERE THE LEVELS THEMSELVES ARE IN THESE L TEN AND L 50 LEVELS AND IT'S A PRETTY TECHNICAL TERM BUT L TEN FOR EXAMPLE IS THE SOUND LEVEL EXPRESSED IN DBA WHICH HAS EXCEEDED 10% OF THE TIME FOR A ONE HOUR SURVEY. AND THEN SIMILARLY THE OTHER STANDARD IS AN L 50 WHICH IS THE SOUND LEVEL WHICH IS EXCEEDED 50% OF THE TIME FOR A ONE HOUR SURVEY SO BASED THAT THE L TEN IS GOING TO BE A HIGHER NOISE LEVEL AND WE JUST GOT SOME REVISED MODELING THIS MORNING SO THE AS PART OF THE ORIGINAL APPLICATION JUST SOME SOUND ANALYSIS WAS DONE NOT A SOUND STUDY. SOME STUDY WAS DONE SHOWING COMPLIANCE. THERE WAS A LOT OF CONCERN, A LOT OF PUBLIC TESTIMONY. WE RECEIVED THIS REVISED MODEL FROM THE SCHOOL DISTRICT DESIGN TEAM AND SHOWING AT THE L TEN LEVEL AND THIS IS THIRD AVENUE IS REALLY THE STREET THAT DIVIDES THE STADIUM FROM RESIDENTIAL IS SHOWN AT 62 DECIBELS SO IT IS BASED ON THE REVISED MODELING THAT THAT WAS DONE IN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT REPRESENTATIVE EXPLAIN WHAT ELEMENTS CHANGE OR WHAT INPUTS CHANGED WE ARE DEMONSTRATING CODE COMPLAINTS AND SIMILARLY FOR THE L 50 LEVEL SO THIS IS A LOWER THIS IS A LOWER LEVEL THE L 50 LEVEL AT HOMES IMMEDIATELY TO THE EAST OF THE STADIUM IS 55 DECIBELS AND AGAIN THAT SHOWING COMPLAINTS ANOTHER CONCERN THAT WAS COMMUNICATED TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF AND THE CITY COUNCIL WAS RELATED TO UPDATING GAMES WILL BE PLAYED AT NIGHT. YOU WOULD NEED TO ILLUMINATE THE FIELD IN ORDER FOR THOSE ACTIVITIES TO TAKE PLACE. ONE ELEMENT THAT WAS INCLUDED IN THE ORIGINAL PLANS WAS AN UPLIFT OR A BALL TRACKER SYSTEM. YOU CAN SEE IT ON THE SCREEN HERE AND. THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT'S PERMITTED IN IN THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON WE REQUIRE OF LIGHTING TO BE DIRECTED DOWN TOWARDS THE GROUND AS OPPOSED TO UPLIFT AND CAUSING LIGHT POLLUTION SO THAT LIGHT FIXTURES STUCK AROUND THE PLANS FOR A LITTLE WHILE BUT IT HAS REMOVED AND SO WHAT YOU'RE SEEING ON THE SCREEN WITH THIS UPLIFT FIXTURE ON THE LEFT OR ON THE RIGHT YOU CAN SEE THOSE UPLIFT FIXTURES THAT HAVE BEEN INSTALLED. THOSE HAVE BEEN REMOVED BY THE AFRICAN TEAM AND I'LL JUST TOUCH ON LIGHTING TOO. BUT THIS IS A PHOTOMETRIC PLAN FOR KENNEDY STADIUM SO THOSE NUMBERS ON THE FIELD ARE THE FOOT CANDLE LEVELS THE FOOTBALL FIELD SURFACE OR THE STADIUM SURFACE AND YOU CAN SEE THE LIGHT POLES THAT ARE IN THE LITTLE RED CIRCLES. AND SO WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT PHOTOMETRIC PLANS WE'RE REALLY CONCERNED WITH ONE MAKING SURE THAT THE FIXTURES ARE POINTED TOWARDS THE GROUND AND TWO THAT THEY'RE NOT CAUSING LIGHT POLLUTION THAT COULD BE DETRIMENTAL TO YOU KNOW, QUITE A ENJOYMENT OF PROPERTY AND THAT'S ESPECIALLY TRUE OF LIKE THE EAST SIDE OF THIRD AVENUE WHICH ARE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES. SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ONE OF THE FOCAL POINTS OF OUR REVIEW RELATED TO LIGHTING AND SO ON THE TOP IS OF THE LIGHTING LEVEL THAT'S ANTICIPATED AT THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY LINE AND WHAT WAS PROVIDED TO US WAS A 0.39 FOOT CANDLE LEVEL AND THAT IS CALLED COMPLYING AND THEN THE CHART ON THE BOTTOM WAS TAKEN FROM THE THE PLANS THEMSELVES THAT UPLIFT FIXTURE THAT I MENTIONED HAD PREVIOUSLY BEEN ON THIS EQUIPMENT LIST. IT WAS IT WAS MEANT TO BE INSTALLED LIKE AT A FIVE AND A HALF OR 16 FOOT HEIGHT. WELL AGAIN THAT'S BEEN REMOVED AND SO YOU'RE NOT SEEING THAT UPLIFT FIXTURE ON ON THESE GRAPHICS ANYMORE. SO WITH THAT WE ARE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS AND CODE REQUIREMENTS ATTACHED TO THE STAFF REPORT THANK YOU MR. CENTRINO AND SO QUESTIONS I WILL KICK OFF YOU COULD EXPLAIN IN A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A SOUND ANALYSIS VERSUS A SOUND STUDY YOU COULD MAKE SURE SCENARIO. YEAH, THAT'S FAIR YOU KNOW I GUESS THE THE SOUND ANALYSIS WAS CREATED BY THE ARCHITECTURAL FIRM AND IT WAS REALLY JUST TRYING TO MEASURE HOW SOUND DISSIPATES OVER A PARTICULAR DISTANCE AND THERE'S A FORMULA THAT CAN BE USED TO MEASURE. IT'S NOT AS ACCURATE AS A SOUND STUDY WHICH TRIES TO MODEL THE ANTICIPATED NOISE BASED ON A WHOLE VARIETY OF INPUTS LIKE HEIGHT OF SPEAKERS. THE SOUND LEVELS OF THOSE SPEAKERS PHYSICAL FEATURES A LOT OF JUST IT'S A MORE ROBUST ANALYSIS DONE BY A ACOUSTICS FIRM THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER CARTER THANK YOU MAYOR SO I READ THIS IN THE STAFF REPORT BUT JUST FOR THE SAKE OF THE PUBLIC, CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT TRAFFIC AND HOW TRAFFIC IT WAS A TRAFFIC STUDY DONE WHY OR WHY NOT AND HOW WOULD THAT BE MANAGED IN THE FUTURE? MAYOR COUNCILMEMBERS A TRAFFIC STUDY WAS NOT DONE. CERTAINLY THERE WAS TRAFFIC ANALYSIS THAT WAS CONDUCTED AND I DO BELIEVE WE HAVE OF OUR TRAFFIC PROFESSIONALS HERE IF YOU WOULD LIKE A LITTLE MORE EDUCATED EXPLANATION OF OF WHAT HAPPENED. THANK YOU. I DO THINK IT'S HELPFUL BECAUSE WHEN I WAS READING IN THE PACKET PREVIOUSLY THOUGHT IT WAS A GOOD EXPLANATION. MR. MAYOR, COUNCILMEMBER CARTER, KIRK ROBERTS TRAFFIC AND TRANSPORTATION MANAGER FOR THE CITY SO IN TERMS OF THE TRAFFIC STUDY DID NOT DO A TRAFFIC STUDY ON THIS. WE DID DO RAN THE NUMBERS AND DID OWN INTERL ANALYSIS. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAS TO BE REMEMBERED IS THESE ARE ESSENTIALLY THE THE THE FIELDS EXIST THE USES ARE THERE NOW SO THE STADIUMS THEMSELVES WILL WELL WELL ADD SOME TRAFFIC TO THAT BUT THEY ARE NOT A NEW TRAFFIC GENERATOR IN AND OF ARE THERE FOR THE FIELD AND THEN IN TERMS OF THE NUMBERS, MOST OF THE TRAFFIC ASSOCIATED WITH THESE STADIUMS HAPPENS OUTSIDE OF YOUR NORMAL PEAK HOURS. SO WE'RE ALL FAMILIAR WITH RUSH HOUR WE DRIVE IN AND EVERY DAY THERE'S THE MORNING RUSH HOUR AND THEN THERE'S THE EVENING RUSH HOUR AND MOST OF THE STADIUM USE OCCURS AFTER THAT EVENING RUSH HOUR OR ON THE WEEKENDS. AND SO IT'S NOT GOING TO CONTRIBUTE THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC TO THAT PEAK HOUR. THAT'S MOSTLY WHAT WE GET CONCERNED WITH OFFICE COMPLEXES FOR INSTANCE, THEY PUT TRAFFIC RIGHT INTO THAT MORNING EVENING RUSH HOUR SO WE HAVE TO WATCH THOSE REALLY CLOSELY BECAUSE THAT'S WHEN TRAFFIC ON THE SYSTEM IS ALREADY STRESSED AND ADDING MORE STRESS. THE PROBLEMS THAT WE SEE, THE SAFETY, THE DELAY THIS DO THAT THESE STADIUMS DON'T DO THAT THEY ADD TO THE TRAFFIC THEY ADD TRAFFIC WHEN THE ROADS ARE IN OFF PEAK CONDITIONS AND SO WE WOULDN'T EXPECT THEM TO CREATE ANY SORT OF MEASURABLE DELAY WE WOULDN'T EXPECT TO SEE ANY NEW SAFETY ISSUES CREATED OR EXACERBATED WITH THESE USES. AND THEN IN TERMS OF THE NUMBER DEPENDING ON THE IT'S HARD TO PIN DOWN A SPECIFIC NUMBER BECAUSE THE TYPES OF EVENTS CAN GO FROM VERY SMALL WHERE YOU WOULDN'T NOTICE ANY TRAFFIC AT ALL TO VERY LARGE. AND SO WHEN WE THINK ABOUT TRAFFIC FOR THESE VERY, VERY LARGE EVENTS THAT'S WHERE WE START TO GET INTO EVENT PLANNING. SO IF THEY'RE GOING TO ONE OF THE TEAMS IS HAVING AN AMAZING YEAR THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE A VERY LARGE PLAYOFF OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. THAT'S WHERE WE GET THE POLICE OFF DUTY POLICE INVOLVED TO HELP DIRECT TRAFFIC AND THINGS LIKE THAT AND THAT'S SOMETHING A TRAFFIC STUDY THE WAY IT'S TRADITIONALLY DONE CAN'T SPEAK TO. THANK YOU, MR. ROBERTS. COUNSEL ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OF EITHER MR. ROBERTS OR MR. CENTENARIO? COUNCILMEMBER NELSON YEAH, THANKS, MAYOR JUST A COUPLE QUICK ONES HERE. PREVIOUSLY IN A PLANNING REPORT UNDER LAND USE THERE WAS SOME LANGUAGE THAT HAS BEEN NOW REMOVED. IT'S SAID BEFORE THAT IT CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLANS PUBLIC LAND USE DESK DESIGNATION AND COMMA PROVIDED IT IS A LOCAL FACILITY NOT INTENDED BE USED FOR REGIONAL EVENT PURPOSES AND THAT CLAUSE HAS NOW BEEN REMOVED. CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO ME WHY THAT WAS REMOVED AND WHAT IT HAD PREVIOUSLY AND SENIOR COUNCIL MEMBERS WHAT ARE REGIONAL USES IS NOT CLEAR TO ME IT'S JUST IT'S A TERM THAT KIND OF GOT SOME TRACTION OVER THE DISCUSSIONS BETWEEN THE VARIOUS MEETINGS. I THINK THE INTENT OF REGIONAL USE WAS OF LARGE EVENTS THAT ARE NOT DIRECTLY RELATED TO THE SCHOOLS OPERATIONS AND SO WHETHER IT IS A NON-SCHOOL GROUP THAT WANTS TO LEASE A FACILITY OR OF LIKE A TOURNAMENT I THINK ALL GOT KIND OF LUMPED INTO THIS USE CATEGORY. WE HAVE NO DEFINITION FOR IT AND WE FELT THAT IT WAS CAUSING ADDITIONAL CONFUSION TO STAFF'S REVIEW AND SO THAT'S WHY WE JUST REMOVED REMOVED THAT AT A TEXT. OKAY SO JUST BE CLEAR ACCORDING TO THE ZONING AND COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT TYPE OF REGIONAL USE WOULD BE ALLOWED IN AN R ONE ZONING DISTRICT IN OUR MARION COUNCILMEMBERS. THAT'S CORRECT YEAH. THE CITY CODE WOULD NOT PROHIBIT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT FROM RENTING OUT OR LEASING SPACE TO A TO AN ENTITY USING A FIELD THE ACTIVITY CENTER THOSE ARE REALLY INCIDENTAL TO THE PUBLIC LAND USE AND SCHOOL ATHLETIC FACILITY OPERATIONS. OKAY. AND THEN THE SOUND STUDY I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED BY THAT BECAUSE I THOUGHT WHAT WAS PRESENTED PREVIOUSLY WAS A SOUND STUDY BY VANNA CLAWSON MY. APOLOGIES IF I GOT THE NAME PRONOUNCED WRONG AND THAT THIS WAS AN UPDATE BASED ON DIFFERENT INPUTS IS WHAT PLANNING COMMISSION SAW WAS THAT DONE BY THE ARCHITECT AND NOT THE CLASS? I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED AS MAYOR COUNCILMEMBER SO I MENTIONED A SOUND ANALYSIS THAT WAS DONE LAST FALL. OKAY. AND THAT WAS INITIALLY WHAT WAS SUBMITTED. WE DIDN'T FEEL THAT WAS ADEQUATE TO DEMONSTRATE COMPLIANCE. WE ASKED THE SCHOOL DISTRICT DESIGN TEAM TO PREPARE A MORE ROBUST SOUND STUDY DONE BY AN ACOUSTICS FIRM THAT'S BEEN A CLASSROOM AND THEN THAT HAS VERY RECENTLY BEEN UPDATED. SO WHAT PLANNING COMMISSION REVIEWED WAS THE ORIGINAL REPORT FROM THE ACOUSTICS FIRM AND THE WHAT WAS ON THE SLIDE WAS THE UPDATED THAT WE RECEIVED TODAY. OKAY. AND DO YOU KNOW WHEN THAT WAS UPDATED AND I ASKED YOU THAT BASED ON AN EMAIL THAT'S IN OUR PACKET THAT SAID SOMETHING TO THE EFFECT THAT THEY PROCEEDED WITH THE OTHER ONE AT PLANNING COMMISSION BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THEY WERE INSTRUCTED TO DO SO YOU KNOW WHEN THEY UPDATE ACTUALLY UPDATED AND IF THEY HAD THAT INFORMATION PREVIOUS TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING THE COUNCILMEMBER I DO NOT KNOW WHEN THE REPORT WAS UPDATED. OKAY. AND THEN THE LAST I HAVE IS THE PROOF OF PARKING BASED ON HISTORIC AMOUNTS OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE GONE TO GAMES THE LARGEST OF GAMES PROBABLY IN FOOTBALL THEY EXIST IN PARKING THAT IS THERE IN YOUR MIND THAT'S ADEQUATE IF THEY COMPLETELY FILLED THAT STADIUM OF HUGE EVENTS THEN ON A REGULAR BASIS THEN MAYBE THE PROOF OF PARKING WOULD COME INTO EFFECT IS THAT COUNCILMEMBER YES, THAT'S CORRECT. SO WE DO BELIEVE WHAT'S EXISTING ON SITE WILL BE MORE THAN ADEQUATE FOR FOR FOOTBALL GAMES WHICH TEND TO BE THE MOST THE HIGHEST ATTENDANCE. BUT YOU KNOW AGAIN WE USE THIS PROOF OF PARKING SO IF AND UNLIKELY EVENT THAT WE'RE SEEING ROUTINELY THAT THERE JUST ISN'T ENOUGH SUPPLY THEN HYPOTHETICALLY THE CITY CAN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT TO CONSTRUCT THAT PARKING OKAY THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN AND THEN COUNCILMEMBER AND REVISED COUNCILMEMBER TAKE YOUR MAYOR THEN I'LL COME BACK TO YOU. I'VE GOT A QUESTION FOR YOU AS A STAFF HERE. SO WITH RESPECT TO IF EITHER OF THESE PARDON ME IF THIS PROPERTY WERE SOLD, WOULD THERE BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR FUTURE COUNCILS TO ADD CONDITIONS TO THIS PROPERTY FOR THIS PARTICULAR USE? SO IT'S VERY CUSTOMARY IF LIKE A PRIVATE SCHOOL FOR EXAMPLE PURCHASE THE THE SCHOOL NOT UNLESS SOMETHING CHANGED I DON'T I THINK THE DEFINITIONS HAVE TO BE ATTACHED TO SOME SORT OF SITE PLAN APPROVAL AND IF THERE WAS CHANGE THAT WOULD TRIGGER THAT SORT OF APPROVAL THE THE EXISTING CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL FROM A PREVIOUS APPLICATION WOULD WOULD BE IN EFFECT FOR AND THEN IN TERMS OF CONDITIONS I JUST WANTED TO ENSURE THAT IT IS POSSIBLE FOR THIS THIS COUNCIL IN THIS BODY TO TO ADD CONDITIONS TO THIS PARTICULAR PROPOSAL OR IS THERE ANY RULES AGAINST THAT OR ANYTHING WE SHOULD KNOW ABOUT THAT AS WE IF WE WANT TO DO SOMETHING MR. MAYOR COUNCILMEMBER YOU KNOW, GIVEN IT'S A LOWER DISCRETION AND THE DISCRETION TRIANGLE OF THERE ARE CERTAIN LIMITATIONS OF COURSE DEFER TO CITY ATTORNEY ON THAT BUT BUT GENERALLY YES CITY COUNCIL HAS THE ABILITY TO ADD CONDITIONS THAT ARE DIRECTLY RELATED TO THE APPLICATION AND THE POTENTIAL OF A OF THE PROJECT AND I THANK YOU MR. CENTENARIO FOR CLARIFYING THAT THE PHRASE DIRECTLY RELATED THE IMPORTANT PART HERE THEY THEY WOULD HAVE TO BE GERMANE TO THE CONVERSATION HAVING AND THE CODE AND THE LAND USE AND I APPRECIATE THAT AND I'M IN FACT THAT'S WHERE I'M GOING NEXT WITH MY QUESTION FOR YOU MAYOR JUST SO THAT WE'RE ABSOLUTELY CLEAR ABOUT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS EVENING IN TERMS OF WHAT OUR ROLE IS. I JUST WANT TO BE SURE THAT I UNDERSTAND WHAT OUR ROLE IS THIS EVENING. YOU KNOW, I HEARD STAFF TALK ABOUT THE FACT THAT THIS HAS BEEN APPEALED FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND SO THIS APPLICATION NOW IS COMING BACK TO THE COUNCIL AND THEN WE HAVE FOUR FINDINGS THAT WE NEED TO MAKE THIS EVENING WITH RESPECT TO THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS NOT IN CONFLICT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS NOT CONFLICT WITH ANY ADOPTED DISTRICT PLANS IN THE AREA. THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS NOT IN CONFLICT WITH THE CITY CODE PROVISIONS STATE LAW IN THE PROPOSED WILL NOT BE INTERESTS TO THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBOROD OR OTHERWISE HARM THE PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY AND PUBLIC WELFARE. AND THOSE ARE DECISIONS THAT WE WE KIND OF NEED TO KIND OF TALK THROUGH AND MAKE A DECISION WITH REGARD TO THIS PARTICULAR APPEAL THAT'S BEFORE US TONIGHT. YOU CORRECT COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN SO THE PLANNING COMMISSION SAID THAT THE APPLICATION THOSE FOUR TESTS CHECK THOSE FOUR BOXES THAT YOU JUST READ THERE AND FOR US TO SAY OTHERWISE WE WOULD HAVE TO ENUMERATE ONE OF THOSE FOUR OR A NUMBER OF THOSE FOUR AND EXPLAIN EXACTLY WHY THAT ISN'T THE CASE. SO BUT THAT THOSE THOSE ARE THE THOSE ARE THE FOUR CRITERIA WE'RE WORKING OFF OF TONIGHT. I APPRECIATE THAT FOR THAT THAT THAT AND WE ARE ACTING IN A QUASI JUDICIAL STANCE OR FORMAT AND MAYBE YOU MIGHT WANT TO EXPLAIN WHAT THAT MAY MEAN TO THE PUBLIC OR MAYBE WE HAVE OR OR OUR RESIDENT ATTORNEY TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE WHAT THAT MEANS SHE'S GOT A BETTER AND SHE'S GOT BETTER WORDS THAN I DO. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MAYOR REMEMBERS SO I AM I AM REFERRING CURRENTLY TO THE STAFF REPORT WHICH IS IN THE AGENDA PACKET AND THERE IS A SECTION ON THE STAFF REPORT CALLED LEGAL REVIEW AND IT UNPACKS THE QUASI JUDICIAL THERE ARE TIMES WHEN THE COUNCIL ACTS LEGISLATIVE CAPACITY SPECIFICALLY WHEN YOU ARE ADAPTING CITY CODE PROVISIONS IN THIS SITUATION YOU'RE ACTING SORT OF LIKE A COURT OF APPEALS. YOU'RE ACTING IN A QUASI JUDICIAL WAY WHICH IS WHY WE'RE TAKING FROM THE STAFF, FROM THE APPELLANT AND FROM THE APPLICANT AND OUR CITY CODE SPECIFICALLY BELIEVE IT'S 21.5 OR ONE LAYS OUT THAT PROCESS. IT ALSO TALKS ABOUT THE FACT THAT IS A HEARING THAT WE'RE ACTING IN A QUASI JUDICIAL WAY. SO ESSENTIALLY IT IS AN APPLICATION OF THE FACTS EXCUSE ME IT'S THE QUASI JUDICIAL ACTION IS AN APPLICATION OF THE FACTS TO THE SITUATION IN APPLYING THOSE THE CRITERIA. SO WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT IT IT'S DIFFERENT THAN WHEN YOU'RE AS A LEGISLATIVE BODY AND YOU'RE ENACTING RULES INTO THE FUTURE IN A QUASI JUDICIAL CAPACITY. YOU'RE YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE FACTS AS THEY EXIST IN THE PROPOSAL FOR THE SITE PLAN AND APPLYING IT TO THE CRITERIA THAT YOU HAVE AND HELPFUL COUNCILMEMBER HAYGOOD COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS YES. SO I JUST HAD SOME QUESTIONS FOR YOU MA'AM AND JUST WONDERING IF THE IF THE STUDY AVAILABLE IN THE PREVIOUS MEETING THAT WE HAD I AND ALSO WITHIN THE SAME QUESTION HOW DID YOU OR THE PLANNING COMMISSION GOT TO THE POINT THAT YOU BELIEVE THAT HE MET ALL THE REQUIREMENTS BY THE STATE AND THE CITY WHEN HE CAME TO THIS TOWN WHEN DIDN'T HAVE THIS STUDY AVAILABLE TO YOU AS AS I READ ALL THE INFORMATION THAT WAS AVAILABLE TO US THE LATEST INFORMATION AS WELL THIS AFTERNOON FROM WHAT I GATHER IS THAT YOU DIDN'T HAVE IN YOUR POSSESSION THIS SOUND STUDY THE LAST TIME WE MET AT THIS VERY COUNCILMEMBERS THERE THERE WAS A SOUND STUDY THAT WAS PREPARED BY ACOUSTICS FIRM AND THAT WAS INCLUDED IN ALL OF THE PACKETS FOR THE LAST SEVERAL MEETINGS WHAT THERE WAS MODIFICATIONS TO THAT STUDY THAT WE RECEIVED TODAY BUT IN TERMS OF THE ORIGINAL DOCUMENT THERE IS A REPORT THAT REVIEWED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND WAS WITHIN THE PACKET WHEN YOU CONSIDERED WHETHER OR NOT AN ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT WORKSHEET WAS REQUIRED. SO IF I MAY, THE REASON I'M QUESTIONING THIS IS BECAUSE BASED ON WHAT YOU JUST TOLD ME, WHAT I READ IS THAT IN THE STUDY THAT YOU HAD BEFORE THAT WE I HONESTLY DIDN'T GET TO SEE THAT BUT WERE CLOSE TO NOT MEETING THE THRESHOLD RIGHT THE SOUND DECIBELS BY THREE POINTS OVER A KENNEDY AND ONE OVER AT JEFFERSON AND IN THIS STUDY DEBRA THE WHOLE THING EVEN CLOSER RIGHT SO IT I JUST KIND OF TRYING TO PUT MYSELF INTO THE PUBLIC'S EYE RIGHT JUST KIND OF SEEMS QUESTIONABLE TO HAVE TWO DIFFERENT STUDIES THAT ARE SO CLOSE TO EACH OTHER. I MEAN I WONDER IF THAT IF IF THIS IS BEING DONE IN A VERY HONEST WAY OR IS SOMETHING IS BEING IN AN IN A INTENTIONAL WAY JUST JUST TO PROVE TO THE PUBLIC THAT SOME ARE BEING MET FORGIVE ME FOR ASKING THIS QUESTION, BUT THAT'S THE WAY I FEEL AND A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT MIGHT FEEL SAME WAY BECAUSE YOU JUST YOU KNOW, HAVING A SOUND STUDY THAT COMES SO CLOSE TO NOT EVEN PASSING OR MEETING THE REQUIREMENTS IT'S YOU KNOW, ANOTHER I NOTICE IN THIS IT'S NOT QUITE A 3-D PICTURE THAT THE REFLECTIONS ON A SUN WAS GOING INTO THE HOUSES NOT TOWNHOUSES ON ADJACENT TO THE TO THE STADIUM . RIGHT? NO, YOU KNOW THIRD AVENUE SOUTH AND. SO THE REFLECTION OF SOUND I UNDERSTAND WHEN HE BOUNCES OFF WALLS OR TREES OR WHATEVER AND TREES ABSORB IT WAS REFLECTED I KNOW ONLY OCCASIONALLY WHEN THE SOUND COMING BACK AND THE OTHER SOUND IS TRAVELING DORSAL SO ALL AGAIN OR THE VERY EAR IT CREATES MORE SOUND DEPENDING ON THE STRUCTURE WHAT KIND OF MATERIALS ARE USED SO I MEAN IS THERE ANYTHING TO BE ABLE TO SEE THAT IN THE STUDY THAT WAS PROVIDED TO US TODAY? MR. MAYOR, COUNCILMEMBERS KNOW SOME CITIES ARE EXTREMELY TECHNICAL. NO ONE ONITY STAFF IS A SOUND EXPERT SO WE RELY ON PROFESSIONALS TO PREPARE THESE REPORTS AND PROVIDE THEM TO US . YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND THAT THE THERE'S EXPERT FROM THAT OF COURSE AND WAS ABLE TO JOIN US VIRTUALLY TODAY AND THERE I THINK THERE ARE FAIR QUESTIONS TO ASK BUT GENERALLY SPEAKING THE STAFF FEELS NO THERE'S THERE ISN'T ANY THERE ISN'T REASON TO QUESTION THE RESULTS OF THE REPORT OR THAT'S WHAT THAT'S INCLUDED IN THE REPORT. I THINK WHEN YOU HAVE MODELS LIKE THIS THERE ARE INNUMERABLE AMOUNT OF INPUTS THAT YOU CAN TINKER WITH OR REVISE OR THEY'RE BASED ON ASSUMPTIONS AND WHENEVER YOU MOVE ONE ASSUMPTION THAT MIGHT HAVE AN IMPACT SOMEWHERE ELSE AND SO EXACTLY WHAT CHANGED TO UPDATE THE REPORT THE I BELIEVE THE REPRESENTATIVE CAN EXPLAIN IT AGAIN FORGIVE ME FOR A QUESTION BUT IT'S I ONLY ASKED THESE QUESTIONS BECAUSE IT'S KIND OF HARD TO UNDERSTAND A WHOLE THING LIKE YOU SAID IS A LOT OF TECHNICAL WAR IS IN IT BUT I MEAN MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE YOU KNOW, THE BOUNCING OF SOUNDS INCREASES IT'S THE MAKES YOU KNOW, THE DECIBELS IN A SOUND. I MEAN IT'S THAT'S PRETTY OBVIOUS WHEN YOU'VE BEEN LISTENING TO MUSIC AND AND SMALL SPEAKER YOU KNOW SOMETIMES YOU DON'T WANT TO BUY ALL THE PEOPLE YOU PUT IT IN AND SOME KIND OF A BOX DIRECTS THE SOUND TO ONE PLACE ALONE YOU KNOW THAT'S WITHOUT HAVING ANY TRAINING MYSELF I JUST FIGURE THAT OUT RIGHT BUT THAT'S I'M ASKING BECAUSE I ALSO HAD SOME QUESTIONS AT THE LAST MINUTE FROM SOME RESIDENTS YOU KNOW, ASKING THE SAME THINGS THAT I WOULD I HAD ALREADY WRITTEN DOWN MYSELF BUT YOU KNOW, AGAIN IT'S A LOT OF VARIABLES YOU SAY RIGHT THAT YOU CATEGORICALLY SAY THAT THIS IS BASED ON EVERYTHING. I MEAN, AGAIN, I HAVE TO ASK THAT QUESTION SO I GUESS YOU DO IS ASK ME TO TO ASK I'M TO REPRESENT IT SO THIS IS DONE IN A GOOD POSITIVE WAY, RIGHT? IT'S JUST FACTS THAT WE'RE PRESENTED TO US TODAY SOME MIRACLE SURVIVORS WHAT I CAN IS THE THE ACOUSTICS FIRM THAT WAS HIRED IS A REPUTABLE FIRM WITH A VERY SKILLED STAFF THIS THEY'RE PROFESSIONALS IN THIS FIELD AND I HAVE NO REASON TO BELIEVE STUDY WAS WASN'T DONE ETHICALLY OR AN INTEREST. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. AND LET ME ASK FOR CLARIFICATION MR. CENTENARIO. SO THE SOUND STUDY THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION THE PARAMETERS OF THOSE SOUNDS THAT HE MET THE CITY AND STATE REQUIREMENTS. CORRECT. AND THE SOUND STUDY THAT THE CITY COUNCIL LOOKED AT WHEN WE CONSIDER THE EAW POSSIBILITY THOSE MET STATE AND CITY REQUIREMENTS. YEAH IT WAS THE SAME FINNGS AND SO THE AND THE INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US THIS EVENING RESULTS ARE THE MOST THAT THE UPDATED SOUND STUDY IT NEEDS STATE AND CITY REQUIREMENTS CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. MS. MERRICK, YOU COUNSEL ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? COUNCILMEMBER THANK YOU, MAYOR. I DO APPRECIATE GETTING THE UPDATED SUMMARY AS HAVING A SCIENCE BACKGROUND IN ENGINEERING. I UNDERSTAND THAT UPDATED INFORMATION IS APPROPRIATE WHEN ASKED FOR SO APPRECIATE BRIANNA FOR MY QUESTION MORE RELIES ON IS ABOUT THE PARKING ESPECIALLY ON THIRD AM AND KENNEDY DO WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY OR DOES THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO LIMIT PARKING ON ONE OR BOTH SIDES OF THE STREET AND I'M THINKING SPECIFICALLY ON THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE STREET SO THAT IF IT DOES GET BUSY PEOPLE CAN STILL CONTINUE TO GET IN AND OUT OF THEIR AND LEAVE PARKING ONLY ON THE WEST SIDE AND THAT'S ON THE SCHOOL PROPERTY. SURE. QUICKLY WITH A LITTLE DELAY, MR. ROBERTS MR. MAYOR COUNCILMEMBER THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION WE HAD THAT CONVERSATION TODAY. PARKING IS GOING TO BE MODIFIED ON THIRD ESPECIALLY THAT ROAD IS NARROWER THAN THE REST OF THE ROADS IN THE SURROUNDING AREA. AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE ALWAYS WANT TO DO ESPECIALLY IN THE SCHOOL AREAS IS MAINTAIN UNENCUMBERED ACCESS AND SO WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO REMOVE PARKING ON ONE SIDE OR THE OTHER. WE WILL SURVEY THE NEIGHBORS TO SEE WHICH THEY WOULD BE MOST COMFORTABLE WITH BUT THAT PARKING WILL BE MODIFIED AND THEN ADDITIONALLY I'VE DRIVEN ON THAT ROAD A FEW TIMES AT NIGHT GET OPEN FOR ACTIVITIES THAT'S RATHER DARK. IS THERE ANY PARTICULAR PROVISIONS TO PROVIDE MORE STREET LIGHTING ALONG THE STREETS THAT PEOPLE CAN BETTER FIND THEIR WAY AT DARK BECAUSE ESPECIALLY IN FOOTBALL GAMES WHEN THE FALL GETS DARK EARLIER JUST TO MAKE SURE THOSE STREETS ARE SAFE CONCUSSION. SO MOST OF THAT LIGHTING IN AREA IS PROVIDED BY EXCEL AND WE DO HAVE THE ABILITY TO MODIFY, MOVE AND CHANGE LIGHTING AS NEEDED GENERALLY IN BLOOMINGTON THE WAY THAT WE DO OUR STREET LIGHTING IS WE LIGHT THE INTERSECTIONS. MOST OF THE ROADS STAY DARK. THAT TENDS TO BE THE PREFERENCE OF THE COMMUNITY SO WE JUST LIGHT THE INTERSECTIONS. WE HAVE THOSE CONFLICTS BUT IN ACTIVE WALKING AREAS AROUND SCHOOLS WE ADD LIGHTS ALONG THOSE AREAS AS WELL. SO THAT'S A POSSIBILITY THAT WE'LL LOOK AT TO ANSWER ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS. VERY GOOD. I THINK WE WILL MOVE. ON NOW TO THE APPLICANTS SO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AN OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT AND THEN WE WILL GO TO THE APPELLANTS IF WE COULD . SUPERINTENDENT LEE, WELCOME. THANK YOU. AND I'VE GOT A REPRESENTATIVE FROM WOLD ARCHITECTS HERE WITH ME ANDY DAHLQUIST, PROJECT MANAGER WITH WOLD. THANKS FOR BEING WITH US. MR. DAHLQUIST THANK YOU. I THINK I'LL START YEAH WE DIDN'T DO A REAL DRESS REHEARSAL SO WE'LL GET TO SEE IT RIGHT HERE. AND MR. DAHLQUIST, IF I COULD ASK OUR MIKES ARE TRICKY IF YOU COULD. YEAH, SURE YOU GET INTO IT. ABSOLUTELY. SO AS MR. SAID SCENARIO SAID, THIS FORMAL PROCESS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR ABOUT A YEAR BUT THE OVERALL DESIGN PROCESS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS. THE SCHOOL DISTRICT ENGAGED THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT A COUPLE YEARS AGO TO GET OUT IN FRONT OF SOME OF THESE THINGS AND TRY THEIR BEST TO ADDRESS AS MUCH AS THEY COULD PRIOR TO SUBMITTING TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND SINCE THE PLANNING BEGAN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT HAS BEEN COOPERATIVE IMPATIENT THROUGHOUT THIS ENTIRE PROCESS AND AS YOU'VE HEARD TONIGHT THERE'S BEEN THREE STICKING POINTS PARKING WHICH HAS BEEN UPDATED AND ADDRESSED A PROOF OF PARKING THAT WAS APPROVED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION LIGHTING WHICH HAS BEEN VERIFIED AND CLARIFIED THROUGH THE DIFFERENT STUDIES THAT OUR CONSULTANT HAS. IT WAS ALSO DEEMED TO MEET CODE AND THEN LASTLY AT THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE CITY THE DISTRICT DID HIRE AN ACOUSTICAL CONSULTANT TO HELP IDENTIFY WHAT THE IMPACT WOULD BE ON THE NEIGHBORING NEIGHBORHOODS AT EACH SITE. THE STUDY DID SHOW THE SITES ARE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE CITY NOISE ORDINANCE AS WELL AS THE SPCA REQUIREMENTS AND ADDITIONALLY THIS SCHOOL DISTRICT HAS TAKEN THE TIME TO ENGAGE WITH THE COMMUNITY LISTENING IN ON MEETINGS COMMUNICATING THROUGH EMAIL AND ANSWERING QUESTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT FORTH BY THE COMMUNITY AND AT THE END OF THE DAY THE DISTRICT'S PLAN MEETS ALL THE REQUIREMENTS THAT FOR THE CITY CODE THE DISTRICT HAS BEEN THROUGH SEVERAL PLANNING COMMISSION PROCESSES AND ULTIMATELY LEADING TO A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL . SO I GUESS I'LL PLEASE KEEP THAT IN MIND AS YOU GO THROUGHOUT YOUR CONVERSATION HERE TONIGHT AND I'LL TURN IT OVER TO SUPERINTENDENT L.B. AND MR. DAHLQUIST. THANKS, MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBERS YOU KNOW OLD BLOOMINGTON STADIUM AND I DO MEAN OLD BLOOMINGTON STADIUM IS IN NEED OF SIGNIFICANT UPGRADES AND REPAIRS. FRANKLY, WE'VE RUN OUT OF TIME. IT'S BEEN KIND OF ON DOCKET FOR FOR A LONG, LONG TIME PROBABLY SINCE LINCOLN CLOSED ACTUALLY IN THERE ISSUES AT THE STADIUM THEY'RE GOING TO REQUIRE SIGNIFICANT COSTS AND CITY ORDINANCES AND ALL THAT SO THE COST TO FIX UP THAT CURRENT BLOOMINGTON STADIUM IS REALLY COMMENSURATE WITH WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO AT EACH HIGH SCHOOL WITH THESE ON ON SIDE FIELDS FOR KIDS AND THE OTHER KIND OF KICKER UP AT OLD IF I CAN KEEP CALLING ON LINCOLN IS THE PARKING SITUATION WE DO NOT OWN THE PARKING LOTS UP THERE SO WE DON'T HAVE A PARKING SOLUTION SO IT FEELS LIKE A REALLY NOT GREAT USE OF XPAYER DOLLARS TO UPGRADE THAT STADIUM WITH THE POTENTIAL TO NOT HAVE PARKING THERE AT SOME POINT THE FUTURE WE NEGOTIATE PARKING AGREEMENTS WITH THE WITH THE FROM TIME TO TIME AND SO THAT THAT MAKES A LITTLE NERVOUS AS WELL BUT REALLY THOSE ARE ALL IMPORTANT AT THE END OF THE DAY THOUGH OUR STUDENTS I YOU KNOW I WANTED TO EDUCATION BECAUSE I WANT TO SERVE STUDENTS AND I WANT TO JUST HAVE THE BEST POSSIBLE OPPORTUNITIES AND OUR STUDENTS DESERVE UPGRADED FACILITIES THEY DESERVE A STADIUM. SOME OF YOU SOME FOLKS WATCHING AND LISTENING MAY HAVE STUDENTS WHO TAKE PART IN ACTIVITIES AND THEY MIGHT GO TO TWO RIVERS STADIUM, A NEIGHBOR OF OURS. THEY MIGHT GO OUT TO CHASKA OR CHANHASSEN FOR FOR AN EVENT, A FOOTBALL GAME. AND IF YOU SEE THOSE FACILITIES COMPARED TO WHAT WE'VE GOT IN BLOOMINGTON, WE DESERVE BETTER. OUR KIDS DESERVE BETTER. OUR OUR SCHOOLS I FEEL ARE BEDROCK. ONE OF THE BEDROCKS OF THE COMMUNITY AND OF OUR CITY AND GETTING THOSE FACILITIES UP TO REALLY WILL HELP US I THINK KEEP ATTRACT, RETAIN AND BUILD PRIDE IN OUR IN OUR SCHOOLS AND IN OUR FACILITIES, OUR PARENTS AND OUR ATHLETES. THESE PLANS IT'S MAYBE NOT A SURPRISE BUT I WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT. I BELIEVE THE NEW STADIUMS WILL ENHANCE OUR SCHOOL SPIRIT ,IMPROVE OUR ATHLETIC PROGRAMS, PROVIDE EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES AND BENEFIT THE SCHOOL AND COMMUNITY. SO AS MENTIONED, WE'VE COMMUNICATED THE PLAN FOR A YEAR ON THE SLIDE EARLIER OVER A YEAR AND KIND OF BEHIND THE SCENES PLANNING ON TRADITIONAL AND SOCIAL MEDIA, OUR WEBSITE COMMUNITY COMMUNICATED WITH CONCERNED NEIGHBORS. I HAD A MEETING JUST A WEEK AGO WITH SOME FOLKS AND WHEN WHEN I HAVE MEETINGS WITH WHO HAVE CONCERNS I FEEL LIKE THEY'RE POSITIVE MEETINGS AND THAT WE MAKE SOME PROGRESS. WE'VE COMPLETED THE CITY REQUESTED SOUND STUDY, WE'VE WE'VE MET THE REQUIREMENTS WE'VE RECEIVED APPROVAL FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND REALLY AT THE END OF THE DAY I DO AS THE SUPERINTENDENT SEEK TO BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR TO THE NEIGHBORS AT KENNEDY AND AROUND JEFFERSON. AND SO PART OF THE MEETING I HAD WITH SOME FOLKS AT THE DISTRICT JUST A WEEK AGO WAS A COMMITMENT TO MEETINGS, ONGOING MEETINGS ONCE THIS I'M ASSUMING THE STADIUMS GET DONE AND SO IF WE HAVE NEW STADIUMS ON SITE I WANT TO CONTINUE TO MEET WITH FOLKS WHO HAVE CONCERNS AND ADDRESS THOSE CONCERNS AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO. IF WE HAVE CONCERNS I WANT TO POINT OUT YES THERE IT'S IT'S CHANGES BUT REALLY FRIDAY NIGHT FOOTBALL GAMES ARE IT'S BEEN MENTIONED THAT'S WHERE THE TRAFFIC IS GOING TO BE. IT'S FOR FRIDAY NIGHTS TYPICALLY A YEAR WE HAVE SOME KENNEDY AND JEFFERSON FOOTBALL TEAMS. WE MAY GO INTO THE PLAYOFFS COULD BE SOME MORE THE CONCERNS ABOUT SOUND AFTER TEN WE'VE COMMITTED TO BEING DONE BY 10:00 EVEN IN RECENT YEARS KNOW SOME OF OUR HIGH SCHOOLS HAVE PLAYED BIG GAMES ON SATURDAYS BETWEEN SOCCER LACROSSE AND TRACK YOU'RE LOOKING AT ROUGHLY ANOTHER TEN AT EACH SITE LATE AFTERNOON EARLY EVENING EVENTS. IT'S NOT LIKE THE STADIUMS ARE GOING TO BE USED EVERY SINGLE NIGHT WITH WITH A FULL 2500 PEOPLE. I JUST WANT TO POINT THAT OUT FOR THE PUBLIC AND AS SUPERINTENDENT OF THE BLOOMINGTON PUBLIC SCHOOLS I HAVE NO DESIRE TO BE RENTING OUT THE STADIUM FOR EVENTS ON WEEKENDS THAT ORIGINAL THAT YOU ASKED COUNCILMEMBER NELSON THAT I'VE TALKED TO OTHER SUPERINTENDENTS WHO HAVE MORE STADIUMS THAN WE HAVE IN BLOOMINGTON AND THAT THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT THEY'RE INTERESTED IN TYPICALLY EITHER AND SOMETIMES THEY'VE DABBLED IN THAT IT HASN'T ENDED WELL WITH SOME OF THE FOLKS THAT THEY'VE CONTRACTED. SO I HAVE NO DESIRE TO DO THAT. I WANT TO BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR. I WANT TO WORK WITH THE WITH THE RESIDENTS WHO LIVE AROUND THOSE STADIUMS AND I'M JUST GOING TO BRING IT BACK AND I HAVE TO WATCH MY CLOCK HERE A LITTLE BIT TO OUR STUDENTS AND I KNOW THERE ARE SOME STUDENTS YOU CAN SEE THEM IN THE CROWD TODAY. I'M SURE THEY'RE GOING TO, YOU KNOW, HAVE SOME SOME THOUGHTS AS WELL. BUT REALLY IMPORTANT TO ME TO HAVE FACILITIES THAT THAT OUR STUDENTS, OUR FAMILIES, OUR RESIDENTS CAN BE PROUD SO THAT WHEN THEY GO TO CHANHASSEN OR WHEN THEY GO TO TWO RIVERS THEY GO YEAH THIS IS PRETTY GOOD. WE BLOOMINGTON SO WITH THAT I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS A QUESTION TIME MAYOR OR WHAT HAPPENS NEXT BUT I WOULD CONCLUDE MY REMARKS THERE. THANK YOU DR. MILBY. I WILL ASK COUNSEL DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF DR. MELODIE COUNCILMEMBER NELSON YEAH, THANK MAYOR AND THANK YOU. DR. MALLABY THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE ALSO VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT YOU TOOK THE TIME PERSONALLY MEET WITH RESIDENTS THAT HAD CONCERNS. I ALSO HEARD THAT MEETING WENT WELL AND I APPRECIATE THAT. SO YEAH I'VE GOT TWO QUESTIONS FOR YOU BECAUSE I ALSO MET WITH THEM FOR A COUPLE OF HOURS AND IT WAS A VERY PRODUCTIVE MEETING FOCUSED ON CONCERNS AND TRYING TO MAKE THE STADIUM WORK IN THE DIFFERENT AREAS AND WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO DO SAY THAT YOU'RE COMMITTED TO WORKING WITH THEM EVEN PRE-CONSTRUCTION ON THE TRAFFIC AND THE PARKING PLANS WHERE THEY'VE CONCERNS AND THEN THE NOISE I KNOW THAT AND THANK AGAIN I KNOW YOU AUTHORIZED THE RELEASE OF THE INFORMATION TO THEM SO THAT THEIR INDIVIDUAL COULD TAKE A LOOK AT THAT THEY HAVEN'T HAD MUCH TIME AS AS YOU KNOW TO DO THAT BUT IF THEY COME BACK WITH SOMETHING YOU WILLING TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT MEET WITH THEM, MEET WITH STAFF, MEET WITH THE PEOPLE THAT ARE CONSULTING YOU BECAUSE THE BIGGEST THING THAT I TO MAKE SURE OF IS THAT FROM DAY ONE IT MEETS THE STANDARDS. I DON'T WANT TO, YOU KNOW, RUN INTO PROBLEM AFTER THE FACT WITH TESTING AND GO OH WELL YOU KNOW WE MISSED BY A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE YOU KNOW, AS WAS NOTED YOU DO THESE SOUNDS STUDIES YOU ASSUMPTIONS AND AS WE KNOW SOMETIMES REAL WORLD ENDS UP A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN WE ASSUME AND AND SO I JUST JUST WANT TO ASK YOU ARE YOU WILLING TO DO THAT? IT SEEMS LIKE YOU ARE ON EVERYTHING SO I JUST WANT TO HAVE IT ON THE RECORD HERE PUBLICLY. YEAH I'VE BEEN SUPERINTENDENT TH IS THIRD IN YEAR FOUR AND I THINK IF YOU ASKED AROUND TOWN I'LL MEET WITH PRETTY MUCH ANYBODY ANY TIME TO TALK ABOUT ALMOST ANYTHING SO I WOULD COMMIT TO CONTINUED CONVERSATIONS AND DID COMMIT TO STRUCTURED YOU KNOW WHEN PICK A NUMBER YET BUT THREE OR FOUR MEETINGS A YEAR TO DO REGULAR CHECK INS AS WELL IT'S A VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THAT AND I DO KNOW ONE OF THE THINGS THAT SOME OF THEM THAT HAVE LIVED THERE FOR A WHILE INCLUDING BEFORE THE SCHOOL BUILT THEY HAD CONCERNS THAT IN THE PAST THEY HAD NOT HAD THAT TYPE OF COMMUNICATION. AND SO THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT A PRETTY WELCOME COUNSEL ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS COUNCIL MEMBER DALLESSANDRO THANKS MAYOR NICE TO SEE YOU. THANKS FOR BEING HERE. THERE'S A THERE'S ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WAS ASKED BY SOME THAT I HAD THE CHANCE TO SPEAK WITH WAS WAS JUST THE OVERALL QUESTION OF THE NEED FOR LIKE HOW HOW THIS COULD IMPACT POSITIVELY OR NEGATIVELY POSITIVELY. I'M GUESSING THAT THE STUDENT POPULATION AND THE DECLINE IN THAT WE'RE TRYING TO YOU KNOW, MANAGE TO OR CHANGE IF WE CAN I'M JUST I'M CURIOUS ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT YOU ALL HAD THOUGHT ABOUT LIKE DO YOU KNOW FOR EXAMPLE STUDENTS THAT ARE LIKE THE NUMBER OF STUDENTS THAT ARE THAT DON'T COME TO OUR SCHOOLS BECAUSE OF THIS PROBLEM THE NUMBER OF STUDENTS YOU MIGHT ANTICIPATE YOU COULD RECAPTURE BECAUSE WE DO THIS PROBLEM, YOU KNOW, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS WERE THOSE A FACTOR AT ALL AND IF SO, COULD YOU ARTICULATE OF THAT? YEAH, I DON'T HAVE HARD DATA BECAUSE I CAN'T TEASE THAT OUT TO YOU KNOW THE DEGREE THAT OUR FACILITIES MIGHT BE CAUSING FOLKS TO MAKE OTHER DECISIONS. BUT I DO KNOW THAT WHEN I STARTED THREE YEARS AGO AS SUPERINTENDENT ONE OF THE FIRST MEETINGS I HAD WAS WITH SOME JEFFERSON PARENTS WHO WHO WERE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT OUR ATHLETIC FACILITIES AND WERE EXCITED TO HEAR THAT. I WAS ALSO WANTING TO UPGRADE THOSE FACILITIES. SO I CAN TELL YOU THAT YES, WE DO CONSIDER THE FACT THAT OUR FACILITIES MATTER RIGHT TO THE FAMILIES AND PARTICULARLY BECAUSE WE'RE A VERY MOBILE SOCIETY. RIGHT. SO YOU'RE GOING TO SOCCER TOURNAMENTS OR, GYMNASTICS OR WHATEVER IT LOOKS LIKE IN DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES AND SO WE WANT TO BE ON PAR REALLY WITH WITH OUR NEIGHBORS BECAUSE I DO THAT HELPS US WITH OUR AS I SAID WITH WITH RECRUITMENT AND RETENTION AND KEEPING PEOPLE PROUD OF OUR OUR SCHOOLS AND BLOOMINGTON LIKE AND SO ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS COUNCILMEMBER LOGAN THANK YOU, MAYOR. DR. M.B. ONE QUESTION THAT I HAVE AND OF COURSE I DON'T HAVE ANY CONDITIONS IN FRONT OF ME SO I UNDERSTAND THAT ON WHAT THEY ARE YOU MAY NOT BE ABLE TO AGREE TO THEM BUT WOULD YOU BE OPEN TO CONSIDERING SOME ADDITIONAL CONDITIONS ON THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY OR OTHER PROPERTIES WE MAY DISCUSS LATER TO THIS EVENING GIVEN THAT YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES YOU KNOW, FINANCES IN THE FUTURE AND DECISIONS NEED TO BE MADE IN TERMS OF WHAT WOULD TAKELACE. AND I KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THAT COMMITMENT WITH YOU WITH THE SCHOOL BUT FUTURE OWNER MAY NOT HAVE THOSE SAME COMMITMENTS AND SO I JUST WONDER IF YOU WOULD BE OPEN TO THAT AND I CAN UNDERSTAND YOU KNOW, IT'S THAT YOU DON'T YOU CAN'T SEE THEM IN FRONT OF YOU RIGHT NOW. YOU MIGHT NOT OPEN TO THAT RIGHT NOW BUT WANT TO PUT THAT OUT THERE. YEAH. SO COUNCILMEMBER WOMAN I APPRECIATE THE QUESTION I WOULD SAY THAT I FEEL LIKE THE DISTRICT HAS WORKED REALLY HARD WITH CITY STAFF THROUGH THIS PROCESS AND IT WAS IT WAS JUST REVIEWED FOR YOU SO I WON'T YOU KNOW, RELIVE IT AGAIN BUT I FEEL LIKE WE'VE DONE OUR DUE DILIGENCE, DO THE SOUND STUDIES AND TO WORK ON THE LIGHTING TO YOU KNOW, BE GOOD PARTNERS WITH WITH THE CITY AS. WE TRY TO MOVE THIS PROJECT FORWARD SO YOU KNOW THE FOR THE FOUR QUESTIONS THE BOXES NEEDED TO BE CHECKED I BELIEVE HAVE BEEN CHECKED AND SO IF I'M BEING REAL HONEST WITH YOU, I'M NOT SUPER INTERESTED IN MORE CONDITIONS PUT AFTER WE MEET THE THE RULES OR THE CONDITIONS ARE SET BEFORE US. THAT BEING SAID, YOU ALL HAVE THAT DISCUSSION. I UNDERSTAND THAT. BUT THAT'S KIND OF THAT KIND OF THAT'S WHERE I AM TODAY. THANK YOU. THAT CLARIFICATION IT'S IMPORTANT TO ME TO KNOW WHERE YOU STAND AND I THINK YOU ALL RIGHT COUNSEL? IF THERE ARE NO ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS LET'S MOVE ON. THANK YOU, DR. MELVIN. THANK YOU. LET'S MOVE ON TO THE THE APPELLANTS HERE . GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME. THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US TONIGHT. I CAN TELL THE SPEAKERS BEFORE YOU MIGHT HAVE BEEN A TAD SO IF YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE MICROPHONES ARE RIGHT IN FRONT YOU OH WE'VE ALREADY STARTED. I SEE. OH OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR SEEING US TONIGHT, MAYOR MEMBERS THANK YOU FOR GIVING US THE OPPORTUNITY TO WE COME HERE NOT TO STAFF THE STADIUMS BUT TO ADVOCATE FOR A BETTER STADIUM FOR BOTH THE PLAYERS SCHOOL AND THE RESIDENTS THAT MIGHT LIVE NEARBY. I'M CAN I INTERRUPT YOU FOR JUST 1/2 AND MAKE SURE WE HAVE ON THE RECORD IF YOU COULD STATE YOUR NAME JUST WE HAVE YOU OFFICIALLY ON THE RIGHT. MY NAME IS CATHERINE BABCOCK. THANK YOU, LINDSAY FOR PALMQUIST. THANK YOU. I'M ALSO HERE TO ENCOURAGE THE CITY COUNCIL TO PLAY SOME KIND OF CONDITIONAL STRUCTURE AROUND THE APPLICATION SO THAT IT PROTECTS THE APPLICANTS AND PROTECTS ALSO THE NEIGHBORS NOT JUST NOW BUT IN THE FUTURE. WE SO RESPECTED DR. MELVILLE'S INVITATION TO MEET WITH HIM BUT AFTER HE'S NO LONGER SERVING AS A SUPERINTENDENT, FUTURE GENERATIONS AROUND THIS SCHOOL ARE GOING TO HAVE THE OUTCOME WHAT WE DECIDE HERE TONIGHT. SO IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE ALL ARE AWARE OF WHAT WE'RE DOING TO THE FUTURE HERE. AS FOR CERTAIN THAT I SEE THAT HAVEN'T QUITE BEEN MET. ONE IS THE TRAFFIC AT KENNEDY, THE AMOUNT OF PARKING THEY WE PUT UP THAT SLIDE WE EVEN BEFORE THE STADIUMS ARE BUILT WE HAVE AN ABUNDANCE OF PARKING PROBLEMS THERE. THE PARKING HAS BEEN IT'S ON WEEKENDS WHEN THEY CONCURRENT ACTIVITIES THERE IS SO MUCH PARKING THAT THEY WILL PARK FROM OLD CHICOPEE ROAD ALL THE WAY DOWN TO 104TH SOMETIMES THIS WAS A WEEKEND MAY 18TH AND 19TH THE THREE OF US WERE OUT THERE INCLUDING THE RESIDENT THE STREET THERE'S PARKING AS YOU CAN SEE AND THERE'S TWO SLIDES THERE'S PARKING NEXT TO FIRE HYDRANTS . THERE'S PARKING IN FIRE LANES, THERE'S PARKING ON THE GRASS RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE SIGNS THAT SAY NO PARKING ON THE ON THE GRASS AND ALSO RIGHT IN FRONT OF PARKING SIGNS SAY NO PARKING. IT GOES ON IT GOES ON TICKETED IT GOES AND NEIGHBORS NEIGHBORS AREN'T INTERESTED IN POLICING THIS. SO WE ASK THAT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT OR THE COUNCIL PUT SOME KIND OF A NOTE IN HERE THAT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT NEEDS TO HAVE SOME KIND OF REGULATING WHEN THERE'S NO ACTIVITY SUPERVISOR ON CAMPUS TO PUT SOMEBODY THERE TO OVERSEE ALL OF THE CONCURRENT ISSUES ALL THE CONCURRENT PROGRAMS THAT ARE HAPPENING ON THE WEEKENDS. SO THAT WE DON'T CONTINUE TO HAVE THIS GOING. THERE IS A CONCURRENT USE AGREEMENT WHEN THIS STADIUM IS GOING TO BE USED FOR FOOTBALL BUT THERE'S NOTHING THERE RIGHT NOW. SO WE THINK THAT EVEN RIGHT NOW THEY MAY BE OUT OF THERE. THEY MAY BE FOLLOWING THE TRAFFIC ORDINANCES. THEY MAY NOT HAVE ENOUGH PARKING AS THEY'RE CURRENTLY USING THE SCHOOL TO EVEN BEING ABIDING BY THE TRAFFIC ORDINANCES. AND THAT'S WHY WE THINK THAT THIS NEEDED SECOND REVIEW TO LOOK AT THAT ADDITIONALLY THE THE PARKING THE USE OF THIS SCHOOL ON WEEKENDS AND WEEKDAYS WILL OVERLAP WITH HEAVY TRAFFIC ON OLD CHICOPEE ROAD WE'RE STILL CONCERNED ABOUT SAFETY FOR THE STUDENTS WAS CONCERNED ABOUT SAFETY CROSSING THE STREET WITH THOSE THE HIGH SPEEDS AND EVEN THOUGH THE SCHOOL IS NOT IN SESSION ON SATURDAY, WE DON'T KNOW IF THE TRAFFIC IN A SCHOOL ZONE WILL APPLY ON THOSE DATES. SO A LOT OF THAT HAS TO BE TEASED OUT IF COULD ALSO TAKE A LOOK AT SOME OF THOSE SLIDES THAT WE HAD FOR THE SOUND STUDY. YEAH, THIS IS JUST FURTHER DESCRIPTION OF WHAT HAPPENS FAIRLY REGULARLY. OKAY. IN REGARDS TO THIS ALSO WANTED TO NOTE THAT YOU KNOW, WE BELIEVE THE STUDENTS DESERVE A STADIUM. EVERYTHING DOCTOR WILL BE SAID APPRECIATED MEETING WITH THEM. WE JUST THINK YOU SHOULD DO IT RESPONSIBLY. ONE PART OF THIS APPEAL IS ENSURING THAT SUFFICIENT INFORMATION WAS PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT TO DETERMINE COMPLIANCE WITH CITY CODE . WE DO NOT BELIEVE THAT SUFFICIENT INFORMATION WAS PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT IN REGARDS TO THE SOUND STUDY AND IN POINTS THREE AND FOUR THAT THE PROJECT MEETS THE CODE AND IS NOT INJURIOUS. SO FOR A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY BACK IN NOVEMBER PAUL APPEL KOSKI FOR THE WALD ARCHITECTS STATED MORE THAN TEN TIMES THAT THIS PROJECT WOULD NEVER MEET COMPLIANCE WITH NOISE ORDINANCES AND THAT WE WOULD NEVER BE ABLE PRODUCE A SOUND STUDY THAT WOULD MEET THE COMPLIANCE AND THAT THE ONLY ROUTE WAS A VARIANCE. SO THEY PRESENTED AN INVERSE SQUARE MODEL WHICH WAS ANOTHER I BELIEVE A SOUND ANALYSIS AND NOT A SOUND STUDY WAS WHAT WAS TALKED TODAY. AND SO WE'RE SUPPOSED TO USE THAT TERM. SO IF I USE THE OTHER SORRY BUT THAT ONE WAS DEEMED THAT IT COULDN'T MEET COMPLIANCE IN FEBRUARY-MARCH WE RECEIVED ANOTHER ONE THAT SAID IT DID MEET COMPLIANCE BUT IT WAS ONLY WITHIN ONE DECIBEL LEVEL. AND THEN JUST TODAY WE RECEIVED A THIRD ONE THAT SHOWS IT'S AT THE THRESHOLD OF THE LIMIT IS 65 AT JEFFERSON AND HAD ALTERED BY FIVE KENNEDY WHICH IS A VERY LARGE JUMP WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SOUND THAT'S VERY DISCERNIBLE TO THE EAR. SO I DON'T BELIEVE THAT SUFFICIENT INFORMATION WAS EVER PROVIDED IN DATA AND INPUTS WHICH MR. CENTENARIO STATED TODAY THAT TINKERING AND INPUTS ARE IMPORTANT BECAUSE THEY CAN CHANGE THE RESULT. SO THAT'S WHY WE WANTED AND REQUESTED SIX TIMES THE INPUTS AND ALL OF THAT DATA AND ASSUMPTIONS THAT WAS USED TO CREATE THESE BECAUSE EACH TIME THERE'S A DIFFERENT RESULT AND THEY SEEM UNABLE TO CREATE A ANALYSIS THAT MATCHES AND WE'RE NOT UNDERSTANDING WHY THAT IS BECAUSE NOT GIVEN ALL THE DATA TO SEE WHY THE THE PRODUCED RESULT IS DIFFERENT EVERY TIME. JUST A QUICK NOTE MR. RIVAS TALKED ABOUT A AND A SPEAKER BEING PUT INSIDE OF A TIN CAN TO AMPLIFY IT. WE ALL KNOW HOW TO DO THAT. THE THE THE DIAGRAM THAT THEY GAVE OF THE TOWNHOMES THEY WON'T PUT IT UP FOR ME IT THE DIAGRAM THEY GAVE OF THE TOWNHOMES RIGHT NEXT TO ON KENNEDY RIGHT NEXT TO JUST SOUTH OF AND NEXT TO THE DESIGNATED DECIBEL THAT THEY'VE INDICATED AS THE SOUND THAT STAYS UNDER THE LIMIT IN THAT TOWNHOME RIGHT NEXT TO IT IT SHOWS THE COURTYARD IN THAT TOWNHOME AS HAVING NO SOUND IN IT. THERE'S NO SOUND COLOR IN IT AT ALL IF IT HAS BEEN SHIELDED BY THE WALLS AND IS QUIET IT IN FACT JUST THE OPPOSITE THAT IS A TIN CAN IN THERE. SO THE SOUND THAT INTO THAT JUST LIKE YOUR EAR WORKS THE AUDITORY NERVES COLLECTS THE SOUND AND IT GOES INTO YOUR EAR. THAT TOWNHOME COLLECTS THE SOUND IN THAT LITTLE COURTYARD IN THERE MAGNIFIES IT AND IT IS INCREDIBLY LOUD IN THAT LITTLE COURTYARD I KNOW BECAUSE I HAVE PEOPLE FRIENDS IN THERE AND WE YEAH. ANYWAY JUST TO THAT THAT SOUND STUDY IS NOT ENTIRELY ACCURATE EVEN IF YOU DECIDE THAT IT'S ACCURATE AT 65 WHERE IT MEETS THE THRESHOLD LIMIT THERE I DON'T KNOW THAT CAN SAY YOU'RE CONFIDENTLY SURE AND IT'S COMPLIANCE SO EVEN IF YOU DECIDE GO THAT ROUTE WHAT MITIGATION CAN BE MADE TO IN THE DESIGN TO AVOID THE COSTLY COMPLAINTS AND RETROFITS SHOULD THAT THEN BE PROVEN NOT AT MEASUREMENTS MADE ON THE PROPERTY LINE WE MEASURED OURSELVES A MUCH SMALLER JEFFERSON SOCCER GAME AND SAW LEVELS OF 65 TO 80 ON OUR SOUND METER AND DID NOT FEEL THAT IT WOULD EVER REACH THE 65 AT THE PROPERTY LINE IF . YOU HAVE ALL OF THIS STUFF GOING ON EVEN AT THE EL TEN WHICH IS ONLY 6 MINUTES OUT OF THE HOUR THEN THE LAST PART OF THIS BEING IS IF YOU ACCEPT THE RESULT COULD USE THE MITIGATION AND THEN IF YOU DON'T FIND THIS TO BE INJURIOUS I JUST WANT NOTE THAT THE WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION DEEMED NOISE TO BE A PUBLIC HEALTH ISSUE AND INJURIOUS PART SAYING THAT IT'S FOR THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD OR PUBLIC HEALTH . THEY SAY THAT IT'S CALLED NOISE, ANNOYANCE RESPONSE AND IT SHOWS A DIRECT LINK BETWEEN REPEATED TO STRESS RELATED ILLNESSES HIGH BLOOD PRESSURE, SLEEP DISRUPTION AND PROLONGED SLEEP DISTURBANCES, DEFICITS IN LONG TERM MEMORY AND READING COMPREHENSION AND LOST PRODUCTIVITY. I HAVE A TWO YEAR OLD CHILD THAT I HAVE PUT TO SLEEP EVERY NIGHT AND I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE SOUND LEVELS BEING SO HIGH THAT WE HAVE DISRUPTIONS TO HIS SLEEP. WE HAVE DISRUPTIONS IN OUR HOME, OUR SOUND ENGINEER THAT WE'VE HIRED ON OUR SIDE DAVID BRASLOW HAS SAID THAT THE SOUND LEVELS THAT ARE EVEN ESTIMATED HERE AT 65 WILL BE LOUDER THAN OUR TELEVISION SETS IN OUR HOUSE. JUST PLEASE CONSIDER WHAT THAT WOULD BE LIKE IF YOU WERE LIVING THERE AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU FEEL REALLY CONFIDENT IN THE SOUND STUDY IF YOU'RE GOING TO DECIDE THAT THAT'S COMPLIANT WHEREAS WE'RE ASKING YOU TO DO ETHICS THINK ABOUT THIS ETHICALLY AS WELL AS LEGALLY YOU DON'T WANT TO BE REPLACED WITH AIR BECAUSE AN AIR COULD JUST, YOU KNOW, MAKE ALL THE DECISIONS FOR YOU. IT WAS JUST THAT SIMPLE. BUT WE'RE HUMAN BEINGS AND WE'RE COMPASSIONATE AND UNDERSTANDING IT FROM THE POINT OF VIEW OF PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE. WE'RE NOT TRYING TO GET RID OF THE STADIUMS. WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP IT WITHIN A LIMIT THAT IS REASONABLE AND NOT A NUISANCE. AND THIS IS GOING FORWARD AND THIS IS INFORMATION THEY HAD TO OUR MEETING WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND WITH HEALTH. THANK YOU ALL FOR THAT ANSWERED QUESTIONS OF MISS BABCOCK ROOM IS FOR HIGH POINT WEST COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN THANK YOU MAYOR. I WASN'T REALLY CLEAR ABOUT YOU. YOU WERE DESCRIBING SOMETHING IN A SLIDE AND I WANT TO GET THAT SLIDE UP HERE SO I CAN SEE THAT I'M JUST NOT IT WAS IT WAS THE THEN THE CLAWSON SOUND MODEL STUDY. WAS IT A PART OF THE STAFF REPORT? YES, IT'S PART OF THE STAFF REPORT. YOU CAN WE SEE THAT'S SO I'M JUST CONFUSED I WASN'T COMPLETELY FOLLOWING WHAT YOU WERE SAYING TO IT LOOKS LIKE THIS. YEAH IF IT'S THE KENNEDY SOUND MODEL IT'S THE NEW KENNEDY SOUND THE L10 I KNOW 50. YEAH, I JUST DON'T HAVE IT UP RIGHT NOW. OKAY, I MAY I APPROACH THAT? WE PUT IT ON THAT. CAN WE PUT IT ON THAT ON THE IF YOU JUST IF YOU PUT IT ON THE TABLE TOP RIGHT WHERE IT SHOWS THERE IS WHERE IT WHERE THE LOGO IS THINGS WE JUST LEARN EVERY TIME OKAY YOU YOU CAN SAY THAT OTHER PAPER OUT OF THE WAY OKAY SO THIS YOU GO THIS IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE SO COUNCIL MEMBER LOWMAN WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS SOUND THE HAS BEEN CALCULATED TO THIS HOUSE OVER HERE RIGHT AND IT COMES IN AT THREE DECIBELS BELOW BUT IT'S SEATED IT'S YES BUT IT'S FIVE HIGHER THAN IT WAS JUST IN EARLY JUNE AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING RIGHT IN HERE IT LOOKS QUIET. IT'S ALL DESIGNATED AS QUIET. YOU SEE THAT NO SOUND ENTERING HERE BECAUSE THIS BUILDING BLOCKS THE SOUND FROM COMING IN HERE THIS IS WHAT THE SOUND MODEL LIKE HERE EXCEPT IN REALITY THIS BUILDING IS SLIGHTLY OFFSET FROM HERE YOU CAN SEE THAT THIS JOGS IN A LITTLE BIT BUT THIS ACTUALLY ACTS LIKE THE TIN CAN THE COUNCIL MEMBER REAVIS WAS TALKING ABOUT. SO WHEN THE SOUND COMES IN HERE IT BOUNCES OFF THIS WALL AND COMES INTO HERE AND IT JUST STARTS BOUNCING AROUND AND AMPLIFYING ITSELF SO THAT THIS IN HERE JUST LIKE THE WAY YOUR EAR WORKS COLLECTING SOUND TO AMPLIFY IT IS ACTUALLY LOUDER THAN WHAT YOU MIGHT HEAR OUT HERE. THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT. NOW KNOW I'M FOLLOWING WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. SO YOU MENTIONED A MITIGATION PIECE FOR THE PARKING. I WASN'T CLEAR ABOUT YOUR MITIGATION THAT YOU'RE PROPOSING FOR NOISE THE MITIGATION FOR THE NOISE WOULD BE JUST TO HAVE A LIMITED OF USE AT THE NIGHT TIME. WE LOVE THAT THE KIDS LOVE THE FIELD WE LOVE THAT THE KIDS ARE PLAYING DURING THE DAY. WE KNOW THERE'S GOING TO BE NOISE BUT FOR NIGHT GAMES OR EVEN DAILY PRACTICES I KNOW WHEN I PLAYED IN COLLEGE WE WOULD USE A SPEAKER SYSTEM TO BLAST MUSIC DURING PRACTICE EVERY SINGLE DAY. I DON'T WANT TO CUT OFF BUT WHEN YOU SAY MINIMIZED CAN YOU GIVE US SOME KIND OF NUMBER? I MEAN REGULATE THE USAGE SO YOU CANNOT USE THE SPEAKER SYSTEM DURING PRACTICES EVERY SINGLE DAY OR YOU CANNOT USE THE SPEAKER SYSTEM IF YOU ARE A OUTSIDE SCHOOL GROUP OR WE REDUCE THE CAPACITY AND THEN CROWD LEVEL WOULD BE LOWER BASED ON THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT ARE IN ATTENDANCE. YES, IT IS. IT'S ALSO CONCERNING THAT THEY COULD RENT IT OUT TO OUTSIDE GROUPS. I RESPECT DR. MELBY SAYING THAT HE WON'T DO THAT BUT AGAIN MOVING HISTORICALLY FOR THOSE AHEAD OF US, HOW ARE GOING TO DO MANAGE USE OF THAT STADIUM WHEN DR. MELBY IS NO LONGER THERE TO BE THE VOICE OF REASON? ALL RIGHT. THANK I THINK I'VE GOT IT IF I COULD JUST ASK A QUESTION. SO THEY CURRENTLY USE THE NOW FOR PRACTICE DURING THE DAY DO THEY THEY BLAST MUSIC NOW IS THAT AN ISSUE THEY DON'T HAVE A SOUND SYSTEM NOW THEY USE A BLUETOOTH SPEAKER SO THEY DO PLAY MUSIC THOUGH. OKAY. OKAY COUNSEL QUESTIONS COUNCILMEMBER THANK YOU. YOU SHOWED THE PICTURE WITH THE PARKING KEY EXPLAIN WHAT EVENT WAS GOING ON AT THAT TIME. WAS IT PRIMARILY INSIDE THE BUILDING OR IS IT THE ACTUAL FIELD THAT'S CURRENTLY THERE? WE DO KNOW FOR A FACT THERE A DANCE CONTEST. THERE WAS A SOCCER TOURNAMENT. THERE WAS AND THERE WAS ACTIVITIES IN THE ACTIVITY CENTER IN THE STADIUM ON, THE FIELD AND I DON'T WE WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK TO, ROBERT, AND SEE WHAT WAS ACTUALLY PLANNED AT THAT TIME. BUT WE KNOW THAT THERE WERE PEOPLE FROM SOUTH DAKOTA NORTH DAKOTA IT WAS REGIONAL AND IT WAS BIG AND THEY WERE ALL OUT AT ONE TIME LOOKING FOR ONE PARKING SPOT THAT DIDN'T EXIST . SO THERE WAS A LOT OF PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC. THERE WAS A LOT OF TRAFFIC OUT OF STATE AS IT DIDN'T KNOW WHERE THEY WERE GOING. THERE WAS PARKING IN FRONT OF PEOPLE'S DRIVEWAYS CAN'T FIT ON THE STREET AND YOU COULDN'T YOU COULDN'T YOU COULDN'T HAVE HIT AN EMERGENCY DOWN THE STREET SO IT WAS BOTH INSIDE AND OUTSIDE USE BOTH INSIDE AND OUTSIDE IT'S ON THE RECORD SO YOU COULD FIND IT. COUNSEL ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS ? ALL RIGHT. WELL THANK YOU BOTH VERY MUCH. AND WITH THAT WE WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING THE OFFICIAL PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS ITEM 4.2. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING THE IMPROVEMENTS AT KENNEDY HIGH SCHOOL. HERE'S WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO OR HERE'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO. SO YOU'VE GOT A CLOCK ON THE WALL 5 MINUTES. NOBODY SPEAKS LONGER THAN 5 MINUTES AND I'M NOT GOING TO I'M GOING TO CUT YOU OFF BUT NOT BECAUSE I MEAN NOT BECAUSE I'M A BAD GUY JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY GETS THE SAME AMOUNT OF TIME SO WE'LL CUT YOU OFF AT 5 MINUTES. WE'VE GOT A UP SHEET HERE. I'M GOING TO NEED EVERYBODY TO SIGN UP ON MIKE IF YOU COULD START AND YOU CAN SIGN UP YOU DON'T HAVE TO SIGN UP WHILE YOU'RE STANDING THERE READY TO TALK. YOU CAN DO IT BEFOREHAND. YOU CAN DO IT AFTER AFTERWARD. BUT WE NEED YOU TO SIGN UP JUST SO WE HAVE YOU ON THE RECORD AS YOU BEGIN YOUR COMMENTS IF YOU COULD PLEASE IDENTIFY YOURSELF SO WE WILL HAVE IT OFFICIALLY FOR THE RECORD AND WHILE YOU HAVE 5 MINUTES YOU'RE NOT REQUIRED TO TAKE 5 MINUTES JUST SO WE'RE CLEAR ON THAT JUST SO WE'RE CLEAR I KNOW WE'VE GOT A LOT OF FOLKS WHO ARE INTERESTED IN SPEAKING TONIGHT AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET TO BUT I ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T GRIND EVERYTHING DOWN AND. JUST WANT TO HEAR EVERYBODY'S INPUT. BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE KEEP THIS ON MOVING. ALL RIGHT. AND YOU CAN QUEUE UP IF YOU'D LIKE ALSO YOU CAN YOU DON'T HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL THE OTHER SPEAKER ENDS BEFORE. YOU STAND UP, GO INDEPENDENT. VERY GOOD. GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME. I'M HER BRAZILIANS AND I PRIMARILY CAME TO TALK ABOUT JEFFERSON. I CAN'T TALK ABOUT THE ACTIVITY CENTERS 25 YEARS AGO AND WHAT THEY WERE SOLD TO BE TO THE CITIZENS OF BLOOMINGTON. THEY WERE SOLD AS A TO THE BLOOMINGTON. I PAID MEMBERSHIP AND THAT'S WHAT THEY WERE SOLD OUT. THERE WERE NOT SOLD AS A REGIONAL EVENTS CENTER AND THERE WAS NEVER A PARKING OR A TRAFFIC STUDY DONE AT THAT TIME THAT I KNOW OF . I KNOW AT JEFFERSON I WENT TO A COUPLE OF MEETINGS AND MOVED THE PARKING THAT WAS UP AGAINST OLSON ON EAST SIDE OF THE SCHOOL CLOSER TO JEFFERSON. THEY DID THAT AT THAT TIME BUT AT THAT TIME WE NEVER HAD ANY IDEA THAT WITHIN TWO OR THREE YEARS YOU COULDN'T GO AND USE YOUR MEMBERSHIP BECAUSE EVERY WEEKEND THERE WAS NO SPARK TO WALK OR PARK THE WEEKEND GYM USE AND FIELD USE TOOK THE LIFE OUT OF THAT MEMBERSHIP AND A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO THEY EVEN STOPPED OFFERING GYM MEMBERSHIPS AT BOTH SCHOOLS. THAT'S NO LONGER THERE. WHAT THEY PROMISED DISAPPEARED AND THAT'S ALL KIND OF MY WORRY ABOUT THE FUTURE. I MEAN, YOU SIT THERE AND YOU PROMISE SOMETHING AND THAT DIDN'T EVEN LAST THREE YEARS AND ALL OF A SUDDEN IT BECOMES REGIONAL USE AND IT'S BEEN CHAOS EVER SINCE. EVERY WEEKEND THE SCHOOL DOES NOT MANAGE THE PARKING. THE CITY WHEN WE CALLED THE CITY THEY DON'T COME OUT TO ENFORCE IT. THERE'S CARS PARKING ON HERITAGE HILLS. THERE IS CARS PARKING ON THE GRASS. NO PARKING AREAS. I GOT ZILLIONS OF PICTURES. I'VE SHOWED THEM TO YOU. NOTHING EVER HAPPENS. THEY ALWAYS GET SHUFFLED AROUND BUT IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF CHAOS AND KIRK ROBERTS I MEAN HE COULD PROBABLY HELP THE SCHOOL DESIGN ALL THE GAMES ON WEEKENDS DON'T HAVE TO START ON THE HOUR. SO WHAT HAPPENS IS SAY THERE'S 300 CARS THAT SHOW UP ON THE FIELDS AND COURTS AND ALL OF A SUDDEN THERE IS NO PARKING AND ANOTHER 300 CARS SHOW UP. SO I MEAN IF THEY JUST STAGGER THEIR TIMES A LITTLE BIT SO PEOPLE COULD COME IN AND LIVE . I DON'T KNOW IF WOULD WORK OR NOT BUT NOTHING'S BEEN EVER ATTEMPTED BECAUSE THERE'S YOU KNOW WE'RE JUST LIVING IN THIS MESS AROUND THE SCHOOLS. SO EITHER WAY THAT'S ALL I'M GOING TO SAY. THANK YOU, MR. BRAZILIAN. OTHERS YOU KNOW IN THE FINAL PIECE THAT I FORGOT TO MENTION IF YOU HAVE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS WHAT WE'LL DO WILL GATHER UP THE QUESTIONS AND WON'T ANSWER THEM AT THE END. THAT GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY FOR FOUR STAFF TO PUT TOGETHER THE ANSWER CORRECTLY AND MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE WE HAVE A CORRECT ANSWER SO THAT WE WILL ANSWER QUESTIONS AT THE END. GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND MEMBERS. MY NAME IS LYNNE LUNDBERG AND AS A NEIGHBOR THESE PROPOSED HIGH SCHOOL STADIUMS I SUPPORT THE SCHOOLS. I REALLY SUPPORT THE SCHOOLS. I WOULD LIKE THE CITY COUNCIL TO ATTACH PROTECTIONS AND TO WRITING FOR THE NEIGHBORHOODS SURROUNDING THE STADIUM LOCATIONS. I DO NOT HAVE CONFIDENCE IN THE SOUND STUDIES THAT HAVE BEEN PRESENTED AND ARE SUPPOSED TO ESTIMATE COMPLIANCE WITH CITY AND STATE NOISE ORDINANCES. THERE HAVE BEEN THREE STUDIES SUBMITTED SINCE FALL. EACH HAS BEEN PROBLEMATIC ITS OWN REASONS AND AS A WHOLE THEY ARE INCONSISTENT IN THEIR RESULTS. I HAVE NOT REVIEWED TODAY'S REVISED SOUND MODELING SO I CANNOT SPEAK TO THAT. NONETHELESS I WOULD LIKE TO SEE MITIGATION AND PROTECTION IN PLACE SHOULD THESE STUDIES BE PROVEN WRONG. PLEASE ENSURE THAT THE PROTECTIONS ARE INCLUDED IN YOUR FINAL REVIEW OF THE STADIUM PLANS AND IF ANY VIOLATIONS ARE DOCUMENTED PLEASE ENSURE THAT MITIGATION WILL BE IMPLEMENTED TO FORCE COMPLIANCE WITH STANDARDS SUCH AS LIMITING NUMBER AND TYPE OF EVENTS, REDUCING THE CAPACITY OR ADDING OR INSTALLING LANDSCAPING AND WILD BARRIER FEATURES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING. WELCOME. HI. MY NAME IS UP. MY NAME IS WILLIAM STORM. I I'M A FOOTBALL PLAYER OVER AT KENNEDY AND I'M A CAPTAIN. I'M A CLASS OF 25 SO THIS STADIUM IS NOT GOING TO BE THERE FOR ME PLAYING IN HIGH SCHOOL BUT I'M SPEAKING ON BEHALF THE YOUNGER KIDS OVER AT KENNEDY. I BELIEVE IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO ADDRESS THE THE FIELD ISSUES, THE ON THE FIELD ARE NOT FEASIBLE. I'M SLIPPING AND SLIDING FOR THE PAST THREE YEARS TRYING TO GO OUT THERE AND HAVE FUN. I'VE TALKED TO OTHER KIDS LIKE A MIDDLE LINEBACKER OVER AT WASHBURN THAT WAS TALKING ABOUT HOW HORRIBLE THE FIELD CONDITIONS ARE. IT WOULD JUST BE A LOT BETTER IF WE HAD A TURF FIELD. IT'S JUST IMPORTANT TO HAVE SCHOOL PRIDE. IT WOULD IT WOULD MEAN A LOT TO HAVE A SEPARATE STADIUM FOR THE YOUNGER GENERATIONS TO, YOU KNOW, PLAY FOOTBALL. ALL I GOT. THANK YOU, MR. STERN . AND IF I IF I COULD CAUTION YOU ALL LET'S NOT DO THAT. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE FOUND IN THE PAST THAT HAPPENS IT IT PUTS A DAMPER ON THE CONVERSATION BACK AND FORTH. SO I WOULD PREFER THAT WE NOT DO THAT. LET'S HOLD. BUT NOBODY UPON LET'S MAINTAIN THE DECORUM IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS HERE IF WE COULD. I IF YOU APPRECIATE SOMEBODY YOU CAN TALK TO THEM AFTERWARD AND WHEREAS IF THEY'RE SAYING BUT I WOULD APPRECIATE YOUR YOUR FOLLOWING THAT SO. GOOD EVENING WELCOME. MY NAME IS JOHN KELLY I'M CLASS A 26. I'M A LEFT TACKLE AND LIKE THE STADIUM IS NO STADIUM WOULD BE FROM FOR MY SENIOR YEAR RIGHT I CAN I CAN NAME COUNTLESS FRIENDS HAVE THAT LIKE CAN'T SHOW UP TO MY GAMES BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE A RIDE RIGHT LIKE NOW ON FRIDAYS IF THEY IF IT'S AT THE SCHOOL THEY CAN JUST GO RIGHT TO THE GAME RIGHT AND THAT'S GOING TO IT'S GOING TO BRING IN A LOT MORE PEOPLE, A LOT MORE FANS SO WE CAN HAVE AN ACTUAL LIKE GAME, RIGHT? AN ELECTRIC ELECTRIC ATMOSPHERE AND WE HAVE A LIGHT NIGHT AND I LOVE THE FANS THAT COME RIGHT BUT LIKE WE WE NEVER HAVE VERY THEY STOOD THE SECTION THIS YEAR DIDN'T LEARN 2020 203 WAS ONE OF OUR MOST SUCCESSFUL YEARS WE MADE HISTORY THAT YEAR AND LIKE THAT THEY MADE THE STADIUM ELECTRIC RIGHT AND LIKE I TRULY BELIEVE THAT LIKE IF WE HAVE A STADIUM AT THE SCHOOL WE CAN WE CAN GET WAY MORE WAY MORE PEOPLE AT THE GAMES HAVE A MORE ELECTRIC ENVIRONMENT AND LIKE WE CAN ACTUALLY GET THAT HOME FIELD ADVANTAGE BECAUSE HAVING TO DRIVE TO A STADIUM LIKE EVERY SINGLE WEEK THAN JUST WALKING OUT OF YOUR OWN LOCKER ROOM ON A FIELD THAT YOU PRACTICE ON YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH YOU YOU KNOW THAT FIELD IN AND OUT AND THEN GOING IN AND GOING TO A FIELD THAT THAT JUST THE GROUNDS WON'T CUT IT I MEAN LIKE I'M LIKE SO ME AS A LEFT TACKLE I HAVE TO KICK STUFF AND PROTECT THE QUARTERBACK'S BLINDSIDE WASHBURN THERE'S JUST THE GROUNDS EVEN LIKE THE THERE'S THERE'S HOLES IN THE GROUND WHERE LIKE THERE'S ACTUAL LIKE DIPS IN THE GROUND AND TRY TO TRYING TO KICK STEP AND PROTECT THE QUARTERBACK. I MEAN I KNOW IT'S A HARD JOB BUT LIKE ALMOST SLIPPED IN LIKE ROLL MY ANKLE TRYING TO KICK STUFF BECAUSE IT LIKE GROUNDS AND EVEN HAD TO THROW ALL MY BODY WEIGHT YOU KNOW AND JUST WHENEVER IT RAINS LIKE I LOVE I LOVE RAINY GAMES RIGHT BUT WHEN YOU GET IN THE MUD IT JUST IT IS KIND OF LOW THOSE ARE RIGHT YOU KNOW BUT I JUST THINK THAT GETTING A STADIUM WOULD HELP OUT ALL OF US REALLY LIKE EVEN FOR JEFFERSON I KNOW THEY DON'T WANT TO SHARE A STADIUM WITH US AS MUCH AS WE WANT TO SHARE OUR STADIUM WITH THEM. OKAY, SO I SAID ALL RIGHT SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR HEARING ME OUT. THANK YOU, KELLY. I APPRECIATE IT. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL MY NAME IS MARTIN. THEY CLICK I'M A STUDENT ATHLETE AT KENNEDY HIGH SCHOOL . I'M HERE TO ADVOCATE FOR A NEW STADIUM FOR US ATHLETES AND OUR COMMUNITY FOOTBALL AT KENNEDY IS A SOURCE OF PRIDE AND UNITY. BUT OUR CURRENT FACILITIES TO BE IMPROVED TO BETTER SUPPORT OUR ATHLETES. A NEW STADIUM WOULD FIRSTLY BOOST ATHLETIC PERFORMANCE THE MODERN FACILITIES WOULD ENABLE US ATHLETES TO TRAIN AND COMPETE AT OUR BEST INSPIRING AND ENCOURAGING US TO STRIVE FOR EXCELLENCE BOTH ON AND OFF THE FIELD. SECONDLY, IT WOULD INCREASE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT. A NEW STADIUM WOULD BE A HUB FOR COMMUNITY EVENTS STRENGTHENING OUR SENSE OF UNITY AND PRIDE. THIRDLY, IT WOULD SUPPORT YOUTH DEVELOPMENT, ENHANCE WOULD EXPAND YOUTH PROGRAMS PROMOTING TEAMWORK AND CHARACTER BUILDING FOR OUR YOUNGER RESIDENTS. LASTLY, IT WOULD INCREASE SCHOOL SPIRIT AND PRIDE. A NEW STADIUM WOULD BOOST SCHOOL MORALE ENCOURAGING MORE STUDENTS PARTICIPATE AND SUPPORT SCHOOL ACTIVITIES, CREATING A STRONGER SCHOOL IDENTITY WHAT WE DESIRE MOST AT KENNEDY ARE WHAT WE DESIRE AND MOST. KENNEDY IS A STADIUM THAT REFLECTS THE SPIRIT OF OUR SCHOOL AND COMMUNITY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU, MISS BERGQUIST. THANK DOUG HERZOG. A LIFELONG BLOOMINGTON RESIDENT. WHEN I WAS A KID THERE WERE 23,000 STUDENTS. I KNEW A LOT OF HOCKEY PLAYERS THAT WERE ON NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP TEAMS OR STATE CHAMPIONSHIP TEAMS THEY CAME HERE FOR THE EDUCATION. THEY DIDN'T COME HERE FOR SPORTS. OUR TEST SCORES CONTINUE TO GO DOWN. OUR POPULATION STUDENT POPULATION CAN CONTINUE TO GO DOWN. I DON'T KNOW THAT I TRUST EVERYTHING THAT'S BEING SAID BY DISTRICT AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION BECAUSE WE WERE TOLD THAT THERE'S CHANCE AT ALL FOR PARKING AT THE OLD LINCOLN STADIUM AND THERE IS THAT OPPORTUNITY THAT STADIUM COULD BE BUILT $2 MILLION LESS THAN THESE TWO PROPOSED STADIUMS. WOULD THAT $2 MILLION HELP BETTER THE EDUCATION OF THE 97% OF STUDENTS THAT ARE NOT GOING TO BE UTILIZING THOSE STADIUMS THEN IF YOU LOOK AT HOW DOES IT IMPACT THE NEIGHBORHOODS WELL YOU CAN ALREADY SEE JUST BY THE LIKE THE EXAMPLE OF THOSE APARTMENT BUILDINGS I HAVE ANOTHER OBLIGATION CAN'T STAY FOR JEFFERSON BUT THE SAME THING THE NOISE STUDY WE DIDN'T GET THAT UNTIL TODAY BUT THAT WAS OUT BEFORE THAT AND IT WAS WITHHELD SO I DON'T REALLY TRUST THAT WHAT IS BEING SAID IS ACCURATE AND SO YOU GUYS HAVE SOME PROBLEMS BECAUSE IT TURNS OUT THAT THOSE STUDIES ARE NOT ACCURATE AND IT DOES GO TO A LAWSUIT THEN A LOT OF INFORMATION WILL BE SUBPOENAED, YOU KNOW AND WILL THEY'LL FIND OUT EXACTLY WHEN DO THESE NOISE STUDIES COME OUT? HOW ACCURATE ARE THEY? WHY ARE THEY USING ONE SOUND METHODOLOGY WHICH IS NOT AS ACCURATE AS A THREE D'S SOUND METHODOLOGY? SO WHY AREN'T THEY USING THE MOST ACCURATE TO GET THAT SOUND DATA? SO YOU'VE GOT A LOT OF PROBLEMS THEN WITH THE EAW WORKSHEET WE HAD TWO COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT SAID YOU KNOW WHAT I HAVE TWO KIDS THAT GO TO SCHOOL, I WANT THE STADIUMS THEM SO THEY SHOULD HAVE RECUSED THEMSELVES LIKE MR. LOWMAN DID TODAY BUT THEY DID NOT. SO THAT'S ANOTHER PROBLEM YOU HAD SOMEBODY ASKED MR. CENTENARIO DOES THE CITY HAVE ANY LIABILITY OR ANYTHING FOR THAT AND IF I TURNS THIS IS SOUND STUDIES AND ALL THESE ISSUES ARE NOT ACCURATE I THINK YOU SHOULD ASK THE CITY ATTORNEY WHETHER YOU DO HAVE SOME LIABILITY AND THEN WHETHER IT WOULD BE A CITY OF BLOOMINGTON, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND WOLD ARCHITECT THAT ARE BROUGHT INTO A LAWSUIT. SO I ASK YOU TO CONSIDER THOSE AND ALSO FOR THE BETTER EDUCATION OF 97% OF THE STUDENTS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MR. HERZOG MAYOR COUNCILMEMBERS MY NAME IS PAT MEYER AND WE WILL TALK ABOUT A CLASS I'M FROM THE GOOD EVENING IS IS A NEIGHBOR OF THE PROPOSED HIGH SCHOOL STADIUM WE SUPPORT SCHOOLS WE'D LIKE TO SEE THE COUNCIL TO ATTACH PROTECTIONS OF RATING TO THE FOR THE NEIGHBORHOODS SURROUNDING THE STADIUM LOCATIONS PARKING IT'S GOVERNED BY OUR ORDINANCES THAT WE HAVE THERE IN QUESTION HERE WE'RE NOT CONFIDENT THAT THERE'S ENOUGH SPACE AVAILABLE THEY EXPECT CONCURRENT RENTAL USE TO COMPLY WITH PARKING ORDINANCES. WE ALSO ASK THAT YOU ENSURE THE SCHOOL DISTRICT CAN CHECK TO CONDUCT A TRAFFIC DURING EVENTS TO WORK TO ENACT SAFETY PRECAUTIONS FOR PEDESTRIANS AS WELL AS BETTER SIGNAGE AND DIRECTIONS TO THE DESIGNATED PARKING AREAS. BLOOMINGTON POLICE SHOULD BE PAID BY THE SCHOOL DISTRICT TO REGULATE PARKING AND SAFE CROSSINGS DURING THE EVENT. ANY ISSUE TRAFFIC, AN ISSUE PARKING OR TRAFFIC VIOLATIONS THAT THEY OCCUR IF THEY'RE INSTANCES OF VIOLATIONS THE SCHOOL DISTRICT SHOULD NEED TO IMPLEMENT MITIGATION TO COMPLY. I KNOW IN THE STUDY THAT WAS BROUGHT UP TODAY THEY TALKED ABOUT THE NUMBER OF PARKING SLOTS THAT THEY HAD THAT THERE WAS CONDITIONAL WE THINK WE CAN GET BY WITH ONE THIRD OF THE PARKING LOTS PARKING SPACES WE NEED. WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO PUT IN PLACE TO TRIGGER THE NEED TO BUILD THAT ADDITIONAL PARKING? THAT'S KIND OF MY QUESTION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. HI, I'M AARON GESICKI. I WOULD JUST ASK THAT WE ALL PRIORITIZE OUR YOUTH IN OUR COMMUNITY AS OPPOSED TO PRIORITIZING CONCERNS, POTENTIAL IMPACTS TO PERSONAL PROPERTY VALUES. AND I WOULD ASK THAT WE TRUST THE EXPERTS WHO HAVE COMPLETED THE STUDIES BECAUSE THE YOUTH DESERVE THESE IMPROVEMENTS AND THE POSITIVE OF THE NEW STADIUM IS ON THE YOUTH AND ON OUR COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE THANK YOU MUCH HELLO. THANK YOU. I AM DAVID OLSEN BLOOMINGTON LINCOLNRADUATE IN 1981 AND HERITAGE HILLS RESIDENT WHO WILL GET TO HEAR EVERY SOUND THAT HAPPENS FROM THAT STADIUM. I CAN TELL YOU IN MY HIGH SCHOOL TIME WASN'T A HUGE FAN OF HIGH SCHOOL. MY BEST FRIENDS WENT TO GRACE WASHBURN ROOSEVELT AND THEY SPENT MOST OF MY TIME HEADING NORTH ON PENN AVENUE TO GO TO WHERE THEY WERE THE ONE PLACE I WAS WAS ON FRIDAY NIGHT HOME GAMES AT THE LINCOLN STADIUM BECAUSE EVEN THEN SOMEBODY WHO WAS NOT NECESSARILY PALS OR IN THAT CROWD I COULD APPRECIATE THE ESPRIT DE CORPS AND THE SPIRIT THAT ALL OF US BEING TOGETHER BROUGHT TO US AND I SEE SPECIFICALLY WITH KENNEDY AND JEFFERSON EACH HAVING THEIR OWN FACILITY YET ANOTHER FOR EACH OF THOSE SCHOOLS TO TRY TO FURTHER BUILD THEIR CULTURE, THEIR ESPRIT DE CORPS, THEIR FEELINGS FOR, THEIR SCHOOL. WHEN WE MOVED FROM ONE BLOOMINGTON HOUSE TO THE OTHER IN HERITAGE HILLS IN 2003 AND I WAS GETTING THAT HOME READY TO MOVE INTO WITH MY FAMILY IT WAS A HOT AUGUST AFTERNOON AND ALL OF A SUDDEN I HEARD THE MARCHING BAND NO IDEA THAT WE WERE GOING TO HAVE HEAR THE MARCHING BAND PRACTICE IN AUGUST AND IT WAS THE MOST WONDERFUL EXPERIENCE THAT REAFFIRMED I'M SO GLAD WE MOVED TO BE NEAR THE SCHOOLS AND I'M REALLY HOPING I CAN HEAR THE MARCHING BAND ON FRIDAY NIGHTS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR.. HI MY NAME IS BERT GESICKI. I LIVE IN BLOOMINGTON OBVIOUSLY I'M HERE WE WE HAVE A YOUNG BOY 15 WHO'S GOING TO BE A FRESHMAN AT KENNEDY IN THE FALL AND HE PLAYS FOOTBALL AND SO OBVIOUSLY I'M A LITTLE BIT BIASED AND I FEEL LIKE MAYBE SOMEWHAT SOME OF WHAT WE ALL HAVE TO SAY AT THIS POINT IS MAYBE ANECDOTAL BECAUSE YOU KNOW IT SOUNDS LIKE EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN PRESENTED HAS MET THE FOUR CRITERIA. SO NOW IT'S ALL OF OUR OUR SOFT WE PUT OUT THERE BUT I HAVE TO SAY I GOT TO ECHO THE LAST GUY THAT DAVID I THINK IT WAS THAT YOU KNOW WHEN WE BOUGHT OUR HOUSE OVER BY PEN LAKE WE HAD NO IDEA WAS AROUND HERE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CAUSED US TO BUY OUR HOUSE WHERE WE DID WERE SCHOOLS. OUR SON AT THE TIME WAS AN SCHOOL AND YOU KNOW, WE TALKED TO YOU KNOW, MR. WILKINS OVER THERE, THE PRINCIPAL AND I GOT GOOD FEEDBACK ON THE SCHOOL THERE AND YOU KNOW THAT SCHOOL WAS THE REASON BOUGHT OUR HOUSE WHERE WE DID LITTLE DID WE KNOW THE HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL SPORTS SITUATION WAS YOU KNOW UTILIZING A SHARED FIELD OVER IT OLD LINCOLN THE FIRST NIGHT THAT WE HEARD SOMETHING GOING ON OVER THERE IT WAS LIKE HOLY, WHAT IS THAT? THIS IS EXCITING. THAT'S PART OF COMMUNITY. THAT'S WHAT WE BUILD FOR OUR KIDS GIVING THEM THEIR OWN PLACE TO PLAY THEIR SPORTS AND DO THEIR ACTIVITIES. YOU KNOW, WE SO MUCH AS ADULTS ABOUT COMMUNITY AND HOW IMPORTANT COMMUNITY FOR US BUT I HEAR SOME OF THESE KIDS THAT GET UP AND TALK ABOUT THE BENEFITS TO THEM OF HAVING THEIR OWN FOOTBALL FIELD AND AT THEIR SCHOOL THAT'S BUILDING COMMUNITY THERE LETTING OUR KIDS HAVE COMMUNITY AND AGAIN MAYBE THIS IS ALL ANECDOTAL BECAUSE YOU KNOW THE FOUR CRITERIA HAVE BEEN MET BUT I REALLY HOPE THAT FOR THE SAKE OF THE KIDS THAT WE CAN MAKE THIS HAPPEN. THANKS. THANK YOU, MR. JESSE. HI. MY NAME IS GUS FINNEGAN AND I PLAY LACROSSE FOR BLOOMINGTON AND I WILL BE ATTENDING EITHER KENNEDY JEFFERSON HIGH SCHOOL AND I BELIEVE THAT THE NEW FACILITIES FOR LACROSSE, SOCCER AND WILL BE GREAT FOR FUTURE ATHLETES LIKE ME GOING TO PLAY HIGH SCHOOL SPORTS THERE THANK YOU THANK YOU GUYS GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBERS. MY NAME IS DIANE MALIKI. I LOVE THE MILITARY CHANCES 65 . I WATCHED JEFFERSON BEING BUILT AND WE WERE SO GLAD THE SCHOOL WAS THERE AND WE DO WANT FOOTBALL FOR ALL OF OUR IN BLOOMINGTON. HOWEVER WE AS NEIGHBORS HAVE CONCERNS AND CERTAINLY AS HAS UNCLEAR IN MANY DIFFERENT WAYS WHETHER IT BE SOUND TRAFFIC POPULATION PUPILS TAKING ADVANTAGE OF SOME OF OUR COMMUNITIES AROUND THESE SCHOOLS AND CAUSING RATHER IMMENSE. THESE ARE WHETHER THEY BE SAFETY PROBLEMS. THERE ARE PROBLEMS. SO FOR INSTANCE NUMBER ONE THE RENTAL OF SCHOOL PROPERTY I SUGGEST WE WE MANAGE TO BE MANAGED BY A PERSON OR GROUP WHO WILL BE KNOWN AND AVAILABLE TO ALL RESIDENTS OWNING PROPERTY WITHIN THE AFFECTED AREA AROUND JEFFERSON OR KENNEDY INCLUDING NUMBERS FOR IMMEDIATE CONTACT IF NECESSARY. NUMBER TWO THAT REFUGE TRAFFIC TRASH AND DEBRIS AT JEFFERSON AND KENNEDY SURROUNDING PROPERTIES WITHIN THE NOTICE HEARING AREA CAUSED BY EVENTS OF JEFFERSON AND KENNEDY SHOULD BE CLEARED AWAY THE TRASH AND DEBRIS COULD BE CLEARED AWAY AND REMOVED WITHIN 24 HOURS OF SUCH AN EVENT THAT UM OBEYING THE 7 P.M. TO 10 P.M. LIGHT AND NOISE ORDINANCE THAT THEY SHOULD BE RESPECTED AT BOTH JEFFERSON AND KENNEDY HIGH SCHOOLS IN LINE WITH CITY CODES. IT SIMPLY IS IMPOSSIBLE TO TAKE SOMEBODY OR START A DRUM ROUND AT ABOUT TEN 1030 AT NIGHT WHEN A GAME IS OVER NOT OVER AT TEN IF IT GOES THAT. WE DO FEEL THAT OUR RESIDENTS DESERVES A RESPECT AND ATTENTION TO OF THESE ISSUES THE REASONS RESIDENTS SHOULD BE ASKED ASKING THESE THINGS JUST BECAUSE OUR PERSPECTIVE WE HAVE LOST OUR TRUST IN OUR AND FROM WHAT HAS ON IN THE PAST JUST LISTEN TONIGHT ABOUT THE SOUND. IT CAN'T BE DEFINED. IT FEELS LIKE THERE'S NOT A NUMBER OUT THERE THAT WORKS. SO, UM, WE NEED SOMEONE WHO CAN BE THERE FOR US TO HELP US TO RESOLVE THESE SERIOUS PROBLEMS AND SOME OF IT HAS BEEN MANAGED THROUGH MR. MITCHELL DR. MELBY WHICH WE ARE VERY, VERY GRATEFUL FOR AND WE HOPE TO GO ON AND HAVE MEETINGS WITH HIM AND HIS STAFF IN ORDER TO RESOLVE OF THE SERIOUS PROBLEMS THAT ARISE AROUND THE SCHOOLS ON AN ONGOING BASIS. I AM AND THE EVIDENCE OF THE ISSUES THAT HAVE AT JEFFERSON BECAUSE I LIVE SO CLOSE AND I REMEMBER WE HAD TWO CARS PARKING ON BOTH SIDES OF OUR AND WE COULDN'T GET A HOOK AND LADDER DOWN THAT STREET IF WE TRIED. THOSE ARE THE KINDS OF THINGS WE HAVE EXPERIENCED. I ALSO WITHOUT ANY ANNOUNCEMENT WHATSOEVER OR NOTICE THAT OUR TENNIS COURTS RECEIVED A HUGE PIECE OF EQUIPMENT DAY THAT TURNED OUT TO BE A COMPACTOR AND WHAT IT DID WAS RECONTACTED THE SOIL PROBABLY AS MANY FEEDS AS FROM YOU TO ME FOR SURE BECAUSE MY HOUSE WAS AND IT WAS JUMPING TO THE POINT WHERE CRACKS IS STUCK ON MY HOUSE. I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT SIMPLY BECAUSE IT'S BEEN EXPERIENCED AND THAT THOSE ARE THE KINDS OF ISSUES THAT COME UP RESIDENTS THAT YOU SHOULD BE VERY COGNIZANT OF AND CAREFUL OF AND I HOPE THAT YOU WILL THIS INTO CONSIDERATION AND LISTEN TO US SO THAT WE MAY HAVE FOOTBALL AS WELL IN OUR COMMUNITY AND WE ALL CAN GET HAVE WHAT WE NEED. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. HI. MY NAME IS CAROLYN BELL. I'M HERE TO ADDRESS SAFETY PARKING AND TRAFFIC CONCERNS. I'D LIKE THE CITY TO CONSIDER MAKING JOHNSON AVENUE SOUTH SOUTH WHICH IS THE ROAD THAT GOES BETWEEN THE TWO SCHOOLS JEFFERSON AND WILSON. NO PARKING CURRENTLY IT'S NO PARKING ON THE WEST SIDE BUT LIMITED PARKING ON THE EAST SIDE. AND THE REASON FOR THIS IS THERE'S 468 PARKING SPOTS AT THE WILSON SCHOOLS. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS IS THE PARKING THAT'S INCLUDED THE PARKING FOR THE STADIUM. IF USED ALL THESE PEOPLE WILL TO CROSS JOHNSON AVENUE TO ENTER INTO THE STADIUM WHICH IS EXACTLY WHERE THE CONCESSION STAND THE TICKETING IS. I'D ALSO LIKE TO CONSIDER IF THEY WOULD CLOSE THAT EXIT ON THE WEST SIDE BECAUSE. THAT IS WHERE CURRENTLY THERE'S A ROAD THERE GO WELL WE'LL GO RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE STADIUM AND IF THEY JUST CLOSE THEN YOU HAVE EVERYONE WALKING ACROSS FROM OLSON COMING INTO THE STADIUM AND NOT HAVING TO CROSS IN FRONT OF ALL THAT TRAFFIC AND THERE'S PLENTY OF ENTRANCES AND EXITS THE FRONT OF JEFFERSON AND THE FRONT OF OLSON TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN. THESE CHANGES REDUCE THE NUMBER OF ACCIDENTS AT THE INTERSECTION OF JOHNSON 102ND BEFORE AND AFTER SCHOOL WHEN AN EVENT IN THE STADIUM IS OVER. THERE ARE 17 BUSSES THAT COME AND GO FROM THE BACKSIDE OF OLSON ONTO JOHNSON DURING SCHOOL YEAR. THIS IS ALSO THE EXACT SAME TIME STUDENTS ARE LEAVING THE WEST SIDE OF JEFFERSON. SO BY CLOSING THAT ENTRANCE YOU DON'T HAVE KIDS POURING ON TO THE SAME TIME YOU THE BUSSES POURING ON TO AND ALSO THE PEOPLE POURING. I LIVE THERE FOR 40 YEARS AND WE'VE HAD MANY ACCIDENTS AND I'M HERE TO SAY I'VE REPORTED ABOUT 11 TIMES A YEAR I CALL 911 BECAUSE OF THOSE ACCIDENTS . A GROUP OF US SPOKE TO WITH COUNCILMAN NELSON AND ALSO THE SCHOOL OFFICIALS ON WEDNESDAY. IF A MEMBER OF THE GENERAL PUBLIC WOULD LIKE TO ATTEND AN EVENT AT JEFFERSON IN THE GYM ACTIVITY CENTER STADIUM ON SATURDAYS AND SUNDAYS BEFORE 230 ACCORDING TO THE CURRENT SIGNS THERE WOULD ONLY BE 109 PARKING SPACES THAT THE GENERAL PUBLIC CAN USE AND THAT'S THE ENTIRE JEFFERSON COMPLEX. THIS IS BECAUSE ALL THE OTHER PARKING SPACES AT JEFFERSON ARE BY PERMIT OR RESTRICTED. THEREFORE AVAILABLE TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC. THIS COULD BE WHY OUR STREETS JUST GET ANNIHILATED DURING EVENTS ON THE WEEKEND BECAUSE THERE'S NO PLACE TO PARK AND SCHOOL. WE MET WITH THEM AND THEY HAVE AGREED TO LOOK AT THE SCIENCE AND IT SOME OF THE JUSTICE ADJUSTMENTS SO I THINK THAT'S TERRIFIC. NOW I'D LIKE YOU TO ALSO THINK ABOUT JOHNSON AVENUE. OKAY. THANK YOU . THANK YOU, MISS BELL. AND IF I COULD REMIND EVERYBODY WE'RE HAVING TWO DIFFERENT PUBLIC HEARINGS TONIGHT. THIS ONE RIGHT NOW IS REGARDING THE KENNEDY PROPOSAL. OUR NEXT ONE IS REGARDING THE JEFFERSON PROPOSAL. SO IN THIS BILL YOU MIGHT GET A SECOND SHOT AT YOUR COMMENTS BUT THERE YOU GO. BUT I'VE GOT THE NOTES YOUR NOTES AND WE'LL BRING THOSE UP WITH STAFF. BUT JUST TO KEEP THAT IN MIND, THIS IS SPECIFICALLY RELATED. KENNEDY SO. MR. COLEMAN GOOD EVENING. HI. MY NAME IS ROBERT COLEMAN. I'M KENNEDY CLASS OF 2020. I THINK IN MY FOUR YEARS OF GOING TO KENNEDY I NEVER ONCE WENT TO A GAME AT LINCOLN. I DIDN'T KNOW WHERE IT WAS. I KNOW TO BE FAIR I COULD HAVE DONE BETTER AT RESEARCHING WHERE IT WAS BUT IN TERMS OF THE WHERE THE NEW STADIUM WOULD BE I. I WENT THERE BEFORE I EVEN WENT TO KENNEDY BECAUSE I DID SUMMER AND THAT'S WHERE WE RAN AROUND ON THE TRACK. AND I FEEL LIKE IF I HAD KNOWN THEN IT WOULD BE A LOT EASIER TO GET THERE. AND PART OF THE I DON'T REMEMBER HIS NAME BUT THE LEFT TACKLE. IT WAS TOTALLY RIGHT ABOUT HOW YOU COULD JUST HAVE KIDS WHO, YOU KNOW, STAY AFTER SCHOOL ON A FRIDAY OR WHATEVER. HANG AROUND FOR A WHILE AND THEN JUST WALK OUT TO THE STADIUMS. THEY WOULDN'T HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, GET A RIDE OR A RIDE OR GET ON THE BUS TO GO TO LINCOLN. AND I THINK THAT JUST THAT ALONE IT WILL YOU'LL BRING IN A LOT PEOPLE WITHOUT HAVING TO WORRY ABOUT THE PARKING, YOU KNOW, AND WHEN I KNOW THAT THE APPELLANTS BROUGHT UP SOME PHOTOS OF PARKING ISSUES AT KENNEDY AND I WAS IN SHOW CHOIR AND A LOT WE HAD THOSE YOU KNOW THE REGIONAL EVENTS WHERE WE HAD KIDS COMING FROM ALL OVER LIKE NOT JUST THE METRO BUT ALSO FROM IOWA AND WISCONSIN AND THAT IS A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT SITUATION THAN THE FOOTBALL CITY THE FOOTBALL STADIUM OR OTHER EVENTS HAPPENING THERE BECAUSE WE'RE MOSTLY GOING TO BE PLAYING OUR THE OTHER PEOPLE IN METRO WEST OR WHATEVER AND A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE KENNEDY PEOPLE CAN WALK OR IT'S A LOT EASIER TO YOU KNOW FIND WAYS THAT WOULDN'T BE DRIVING TO GET TO KENNEDY. AND I THINK THAT ALONG WITH THE FACT THAT THE I THINK THAT MAYBE THERE'S A A STIGMA AROUND PEOPLE HAVING USING THE STREET PARKING THE STREET PARKING IS THERE TO BE USED AND IT BEING USED IS NOT REALLY AN ISSUE BECAUSE WHY ELSE ARE REBUILDING AND MAINTAINING THEM IF THEY SHOULD NOT BE USED SOMETIMES YOU KNOW AND IT SHOULDN'T BE ALL THE TIME IT SHOULDN'T BE COMPLETELY FILLED IT SHOULD BE IT'S NOT IT'S NOT AN ISSUE THAT IT IS BEING USED AT ALL IT IS IF IT IS BEING USED INCORRECTLY. I DIDN'T GO TO JEFFERSON SO I CAN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT JEFFERSON AND I WON'T BECAUSE THAT'S NOT NOW. OKAY. THANK YOU, MR. COLEMAN. GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME AND JOHN ANDERSON ACTIVITIES OF BLOOM COUNTY HIGH SCHOOL, A LIFELONG RESIDENT OF BLOOMINGTON. I HATE TO SAY IT I DON'T HATE TO SAY IT BUT I'M UNAFRAID TO SAY IT AND JEFFERSON CLASS OF 95 BUT I'VE BEEN KENNEDY FOR THE LAST 23 YEARS MY ENTIRE PROFESSIONAL CAREER I'VE PLAYED AND COACHED FOOTBALL AT JEFFERSON I'VE COACHED FOOTBALL AND AN ATHLETIC DIRECTOR AT KENNEDY FOR THE LAST 23 YEARS. THERE'S PROBABLY NO ONE WHO KNOWS MORE ABOUT FOOTBALL BLOOMINGTON THAN I DO AND I THERE IS NOTHING MORE THAT I THINK WE CAN DO TO BUILD COMMUNITY HERE IN BLOOMINGTON THAN THE BUILDING STADIUMS. I SAID TO YOU SOME OF YOU BEFORE THE LISTENING SESSION COUPLE WEEKS AGO, YOU KNOW, AS A MEMBER OF THE CORPS PLANNING TEAM WITH SOME OF YOU WHILE BUILDING THE STRATEGIC PLAN AND MISSION FOR THEITY AND IT'S ONE OF THE MOST PROFOUND THINGS I'VE DONE PROFESSIONALLY IN MY LIFE AND I'M VERY PROUD OF THE WORK WE DID IN THAT OF CULTIVATING A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE WANT TO BE THE STADIUMS HELP US MAKE BLOOMINGTON A BETTER PLACE WHERE PEOPLE WANT TO BE. ANECDOTAL ONLY I CAN TELL YOU ABOUT THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO'VE TOLD ME WHO HAVE DUMPED ON OUR FACILITIES AND TOLD US THAT THEY AREN'T GOOD ENOUGH AND THEY DON'T WANT TO COME TO OUR SCHOOLS BECAUSE THE BLOOMINGTON I'VE BEEN IN PROBABLY JUST ABOUT EVERY SINGLE STADIUM IN THE ENTIRE METROPOLITAN AREA THROUGH ALL YEARS OF COACHING AND PLAYING FOOTBALL IN OUR STADIUM IS NOT UP TO PAR AND I'M SAYING THAT NICELY BECAUSE MY BOSS IS SITTING OVER HERE OKAY. THEY JUST AREN'T THERE WHERE THEY NEED TO BE AND WE NEED TO DO BETTER FOR OUR KIDS, BETTER FOR OUR COMMUNITIES WE NEED TO HAVE PLACES WHERE COMMUNITIES CAN GATHER TOGETHER. YOU KNOW WHAT I LOVE TO PACK OUR STADIUMS AND HAVE 2500 PEOPLE AND TO HAVE TO DEAL WITH POSSIBILITY OF BUILDING MORE PARKING SPOTS AT OUR GAMES. I WOULD LOVE THAT. BRING IT ON. LET'S THAT DISCUSSION. OUR FOOTBALL GAMES SIMPLY JUST AREN'T THAT WELL OR THAT THAT'S GOING TO BE AN ISSUE AT OUR FOOTBALL GAMES. THIS ISN'T THE LAST FIVE YEARS WE'VE AVERAGED BETWEEN 500 AND TIE IN A THOUSAND PEOPLE AT OUR FOOTBALL GAMES SO THE CURRENT PARKING THAT WE HAVE IS ADEQUATE. THE PROPOSAL WE HAVE MEETS THE CODE , IT MEETS THE STANDARDS THAT WE'VE BEEN ASKED TO MEET . I JUST FULLY BELIEVE SO MUCH AND WHAT WE CAN DO. JAY KELLEY OUR WONDERFUL TACKLE SPOKE ABOUT OUR KIDS WHO DON'T GO TO GAMES. HE CAN'T GET THERE. I'VE SEEN IT. I'VE SEEN OUR HIGH SCHOOL TRANSITION SO MUCH AND CHANGE OUR POPULATION. OUR GROUP OUR PARKING LOT IS NOT FULL DURING THE SCHOOL DAY YOU GO TO MANY OTHER SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES THAT PARKING LOTS FULL STUDENT PARKING BECAUSE OUR KIDS AREN'T DRIVING SO THEY DON'T MAKE IT THE FOUR MILES TO GO TO LINCOLN STADIUM. AND I'M NOT JUST TALKING ABOUT FOOTBALL BUT SOCCER, LACROSSE ,ALL THOSE OTHER SPORTS. WE ARE 40% LATINO AND IT CAN BE A SCHOOL. WE WERE A SOCCER CRAZED SCHOOL. THEY LOVE SOCCER. THEY WOULD PLAY SOCCER IN OPEN GYM EVERY CHANCE I'D GIVE THEM . BUT WE DON'T HAVE GREAT ATTENDANCE AT OUR SOCCER GAMES . OUR KIDS AREN'T GETTING TO THE GAMES. SO IF I CAN BUILD AN EVENT FOR THEM THEY CAN JUST STAY THERE RIGHT AFTER AND HOST IT. YOU KNOW THOSE GAMES. THAT WOULD BE A GREAT. WE COULD DO SO MUCH TO BUILD COMMUNITY, SO MUCH FOR OUR SCHOOLS, INCREASE THE ATMOSPHERE, THE CONNECTION, THE SCHOOL SPIRIT AT KENNEDY AND JEFFERSON AND THAT COULD DO SO MUCH FOR THE ENTIRE CITY AS A WHOLE. WE WANT THAT CORPS PLANNING TASKED THE CITY WITH TAKING RISKS FOR THE BETTERMENT OF THE COMMUNITY. WE WANT YOU TO DO THIS. THE COMMUNITY A WHOLE IS GOING TO BENEFIT BY HAVING THESE FACILITIES IN BLOOMINGTON. I FULLY BELIEVE THAT AND I JUST ASKED CITY COUNCIL TO LOOK AT THAT. WHAT DID YOU DIRECTED TO DO? WE MEET THE CODE AND PLEASE PASS THIS ALONG. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. ANDERSON . GOOD EVENING. WELCOME. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I CAN ANSWER I'D LIKE TO SAY THAT THE CLASS OF 1980 I PLAYED OFFENSIVE TACKLE AND DEFENSIVE GUARD WAS ALL LEAGUE. I GREATLY RESPECT SPORTS. I. I HAVE NOTHING BUT THE BEST TO SAY ABOUT SPORTS HOW THEY ENHANCED MY LIFE AND THE LIFE OF MY CHILDREN AND THEIR CHILDREN TOO AS I SEE THEM GOING UP GROWING UP AS WELL. I JUST I AND I AS MY PREDECESSOR WAS SAYING THIS TO THE STUDENTS HERE IN BLOOMINGTON JEFFERSON AND BLOOMINGTON HERE AT KENNEDY ARE FOR OUTSIDE SPORTS EVENTS ARE BEING DENIED SOME OF THE OPPORTUNITIES FOR AN ADVENTURE INTO SPORTS AND MEMORIES MOVING FORWARD BECAUSE OF THE THE FACILITY THAT'S CURRENTLY IN PLACE IS NOT ADEQUATE. I MEAN IT HAS IT NEEDS NEW GRASS AND TURF IN PLACE. IT NEEDS YOU KNOW, ENHANCED MEANS THAT THE OTHER TWO FACILITIES HAVE SOMEHOW GOTTEN IN PLACE WHERE THIS FACILITY HAS AND I JUST WATCHED ARTIFICIAL TURF BE LAID JEFFERSON AND BLOOMINGTON AND I'VE SEEN THOSE FACILITIES GRADUATE BEING ENHANCED INTO THIS AREA THAT WERE BEING STEERED INTO. BUT I'M I'M CONCERNED BUT THE BOTH FACILITIES ARE IN LOCATIONS THAT THEY JUST DON'T SUPPORT WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE. WE'RE NOT AND WE MAY NOT BE THINKING BIG ENOUGH WE MAY NEED TO LOOK AT THE OPPORTUNITY OF CREATING ONE NICE JUST ALL OUT LIKE WE DO FOR HOCKEY. YOU KNOW WE HAVE A PLACE WHERE THE HOCKEY GO TO THAT HAS ADEQUATE PARKING AND IS SET UP FOR BOTH SCHOOLS. YOU KNOW IF WE COULD THINK ONG THOSE LINES IT MAY BE A BETTER WAY TO GO THAN TRYING TO SUPPLEMENT THESE TWO SMALLER STADIUMS TO ACCOMMODATE WHAT IT IS THAT TRYING TO DRIVE TOWARDS OR WHAT THE SCHOOLS ARE TRYING TO DRIVE TOWARDS NOW. SO I JUST WANT TO BRING THAT TO THE ATTENTION OF THE COUNCIL AND IN THE THOUGHT OF THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AS WELL. YOU KNOW, ARE WE REALLY TRYING ARE WE REALLY THINKING THE RIGHT FOR THE YOU KNOW, THE COMMUNITIES FOR FOR SOCCER, THE FOR FOOTBALL, THE COMMUNITIES FOR YOU KNOW, LACROSSE AND ALL THE SPORTS THAT ARE BEING CONDUCTED RIGHT NOW TRYING TO BE CONDUCTED AT THESE TWO STADIUMS. IS THIS REALLY, YOU KNOW, GOING TO FIT THAT ROLE OR SHOULD WE THINK ALONG THE OF ONE JUST ALL OUT NICE STADIUM FOR BOTH SCHOOLS AND THE ENTIRE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON TO USE ON WHATEVER STATES THEY STAGE YOU KNOW EVENTS THEY NEED SUCH AS GRADUATIONS AND SO ON AND SO FORTH. SO I JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT TO EVERYBODY'S YOU KNOW, AND AND PUT THAT OUT THERE AS A THOUGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MR. ENNIS. ANYONE ELSE IN THE CHAMBER SWITCHING TO TO BE PART OF THIS PUBLIC HEARING? CAITLIN, DO WE HAVE ANYONE ON THE PHONE? MAYOR THE THE CONSULTANT FROM FROM WHAT'S THE VENUE CLAUSON IS AVAILABLE EITHER SPEAK NOW OR TO ANSWER A QUESTION. ALL RIGHT. I WAS JUST WONDERING IF THERE'S ANYONE TO TALK ON THE ON THE PUBLIC HEARING THERE'S ONE ELSE ON. ALL RIGHT. LAST CALL FOR ANYBODY IN THE CHAMBERS HERE, COUNSEL. NO ONE IN THE CHAMBER IS COMING FORWARD. WE'VE GOT NO ONE ON THE PHONE WISHING TO SPEAK TO AN 4.1 AND WOULD LOOK FOR EXCUSE ME 4.20 LOOK FOR A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING NOT IN 4.2 THIS EVENING THE SECOND MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO AND THE SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN COUNCILMEMBER NELSON, A QUESTION YEAH, I'M JUST WONDERING IF IT MAKES SENSE TO HEAR FROM VERNON CLAWSON. WELL IT'S PUBLIC OR IF IT'S MORE APPROPRIATE TO DO THAT AFTER WE CLOSED THE MEETING BECAUSE I DEFINITELY WANT TO HEAR FROM THEM. WHAT WERE THE CHANGES? HOW DID WE GET TO WHERE WE'RE AT. JUST SOME BACKGROUND INFORMATION. I THINK IT'S ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT ISSUES HERE. WE WILL DEFINITELY BE ABLE WE WILL DEFINITELY TURN TO THEM AND WE CAN TALK TO THEM. BUT I THINK IN TERMS OF THIS PUBLIC HEARING IF I THINK WE SHOULD CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ANDHEN GET OUT OF THERE JUST THAT'S ALL I WANT CLARIFICATION OKAY COUNSEL WE GOT A MOTION IN A SECOND TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING IN ITEM 4.2 NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSED MOTION FURIOUS SEVEN ZERO CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING ON IN 4.2 SO WE'RE INTO QUESTIONS OF CONVERSATION HERE AT COUNCIL AND COUNCILMEMBER NELSON WHY DON'T YOU KICK US OFF SPECIFICALLY THE QUESTIONS YOU HAVE AND THAT YOU'RE LOOKING TO HAVE ANSWERED THE SOUND CONSULTANT SO YEAH THANK YOU MAYOR. I AM JUST LOOKING FOR AN OVERVIEW OF THE SOUND SORT OF THE METHODOLOGY WHAT BETWEEN THE TWO SOUND STUDIES YOU KNOW THERE WERE SOME THERE'S JUST BEEN SOME GENERAL QUESTIONS IF WE COULD GET AN OVERVIEW OF OF HOW THEY APPROACHED US, WHAT TYPE OF DATA THEY USE, WHAT TYPE OF ASSUMPTIONS MADE KIND OF AT A HIGH LEVEL SO WE KNOW WHAT'S IN THERE AND HOW IT WAS THOUGHT THROUGH. GOOD EVENING. WELCOME AND I THINK YOU ARE MUTED THANK YOU CITY. GREAT TO HEAR FROM YOU. GREAT. SEE EVERYBODY THERE. MY NAME IS JOHN LAMBERTI. I'M WITH A CLOSET ASSOCIATES AND I'M A PRINCIPAL AT THE FIRM. I'M IN MY 35TH YEAR OF CONSULTING AND HAVE A MASTER'S DEGREE IN ACOUSTICS FROM UCLA. THE QUESTIONS ARE GREAT WITH REGARDS TO THE MODELING AND HOW IT WAS DONE. I'LL TRY TO ANSWER THEM IN A VERY KIND OF SUCCINCT AND VERY DIRECTED WAY AND THEN I CAN TAKE FURTHER. IF YOU HAVE MORE SPECIFICS YOU'RE INTERESTED FOR FIRST OF ALL THE MODEL THERE ARE QUESTIONS OF THE GUARDS THE MODEL IN TERMS OF THE CHANGES THAT WERE MADE ALL FIRST COUPLE THINGS THAT ARE EXACTLY THE SAME THE MODEL IS A 3D SO PREDICTS A LEVEL AS A FUNCTION OF THREE DIMENSIONS X, Y AND Z. SO IT IS VERTICAL AND HAS THE POTENTIAL FOR PREDICTING IN THE CATEGORY ALL THE MODELS HAVE BEEN 3D THEY'VE BEEN RUN THE THE MODEL TAKES INTO ACCOUNT THE VARIOUS THINGS THAT WITHIN WITHIN WHAT IS PROPOSED AS A STADIUM AND SO WE USED FOOTBALL AS THE MODEL AND THAT FOOTBALL WOULD PROBABLY BE THE LOUDEST EVENT THAT WOULD OCCUR AND WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT SPECIFICALLY IS THE NUMBER OF PLAYS THAT HAPPENED HAPPEN BRIGADES WE LOOKED AT THE DURATION OF THE GAMES GAME TIMES THE NUMBER OF PLAYS THAT WE RUN PER THE NUMBER OF SCORES PER GAME. SO THOSE WERE LOOKED AT IN TERMS OF 22 AND 23. WE ALSO LOOKED AT THE NUMBER OF EVENTS FOOTBALL EVENTS PER YEAR IN THE SPACE AS WE LOOKED AT THE WEATHER CONDITIONS, THE TIME OF EVENTS. SO THE EVENTS HAPPENED ROUGHLY FROM SEPTEMBER UNTIL NOVEMBER IT'S LOOKED AT WEATHER CONDITIONS OVER THE PERIOD OF TIME INTO WHAT I WOULD CALL AVERAGES OF THE WEATHER DURING THAT TIME. SO THAT INCLUDES TEMPERATURE, HUMIDITY AND WIND SPEED. AND THEN WE LOOKED AT THE MODEL WITH THOSE VARIABLES IN IN VARIOUS VARIATIONS. SO WE LOOKED AT KIND OF THE EXTREMES WE TYPICALLY MODEL ON THE EXTREMES IN TERMS OF THE SOURCE YOU HAVE PLAYS, YOU HAVE HALFTIME YOU HAVE SPEAKERS THAT MAKE ANNOUNCEMENTS PLAY BY PLAY AND ALL OF THAT WAS TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT WITHIN THE 3D MODEL. WE ALSO LOOK AT REFLECTIONS OFF OF ENTITIES, BUILDINGS AND LIKE THAT SO THE MODEL DOES BUILD AND CHAIR AND CHARACTERIZE REFLECTIONS THAT DO OCCUR OFF OF ELEMENTS AND BUILDINGS AS IT SEES FIT THE OTHER THINGS THAT IT TAKES INTO ACCOUNT OR THE CHEERING ITSELF COMING OFF THE BLEACHERS AND THE BLEACHERS THEMSELVES AND TO THE EXTENT THAT THOSE ARE BARRIERS TO LET'S SAY SENSITIVE OR NOT AREAS OF SENSITIVE RECEPTORS. IT ALSO TAKES INTO ACCOUNT THE TERRAIN ITSELF. SO WITH THE OF THE GROUND LOOKS LIKE AS BETWEEN THE STADIUM AND THE RECEPTORS WHEN THE QUESTION WAS ASKED WHAT HAD CHANGED BETWEEN I'LL CALL THE MODEL THAT WAS PRESENTED TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND THIS MODEL THERE WAS REFINEMENTS OF A VARIETY OF THINGS REFINEMENTS INTO MORE RESEARCH WAS DONE INTO WEATHER CONDITIONS SO THE REFINEMENTS WERE MADE TO WEATHER CONDITIONS REFINENTS WERE MADE TO THE RESIDENCES THEMSELVES IN OTHER WORDS THE SENSITIVE RECEPTORS THEMSELVES AND HOW THEY WERE PRESENTED IN THE MODEL MORE THEM WERE PUT IN AND MODELED. I ALSO DID A MODELING OF THE SPEAKER SYSTEMS THEMSELVES LOOKING AT MORE DETAILED INFORMATION ON SPEAKER MOUNTING AND SPEAKER LOCATIONS AND THEN SHEARING THEMSELVES. SO WE LOOKED AT THE CHEERING THAT WOULD HAPPEN SO I LOOKED AT THE NUMBER OF EVENTS OF CHEERING GAME AND HOW THAT WOULD BE LOOKED AT. SO THOSE ARE THE PRIMARY AREAS OF MODIFICATION. THERE WAS VERY LITTLE CHANGE IN THE OVERALL NOISE LEVEL AT ANY ONE LOCATION WHEN PEOPLE ASKED ME ABOUT PRECISION OF THESE MODELS THESE MODELS ARE IF IF OUR ASSUMPTIONS ARE CORRECT WHICH I HOPE THEY ARE YOU'RE NORMALLY WITHIN ABOUT A DB OF THE ACTUAL RESULT IN LEVELS THAT YOU PREDICT. SO OBVIOUSLY THERE'S VARIATIONS OF THIS THERE'S VARIATIONS THINGS I CAN CONTROL AND THINGS I CAN'T CONTROL BUT THE THINGS I CAN CONTROL THERE ARE THEY WILL BE WELL CONTROLLED AND WELL DETERMINED AS IS THIS THESE EVENT CENTERS GET BUILT, CONSTRUCTED AND ADOPTED. I'LL LET YOU ASK ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS AS YOU THANK YOU. APPRECIATE THE EXPLANATION. I APPRECIATE THE INFORMATION COUNCILMEMBER CARTER WITH A QUESTION HERE. DO YOU HAVE ANY FOLLOW COUNCILMEMBER NELSON? VERY GOOD COUNCILMEMBER CARTER AND A COUNCILMEMBER COUNCILMEMBER CARTER. OH YEAH. JUST A CLARIFICATION. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. WHEN YOU DID THE MODELING AND YOU USED FOOTBALL AS THIS SPORT, DID YOU MODEL IT ASSUMING THE 2500 ATTENDANCE AT THE GAMES? YES. OKAY. THANK YOU. JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT COUNCILMEMBER. THANK YOU. AND SO I JUST WANTED TO CONFIRM THAT WERE MODELS YOU DIDN'T ACTUALLY GO OUT TO THE STADIUM FOOTBALL GAMES THE LAST TWO YEARS TO MEASURE NOISE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. SO THESE ARE JUST PREDICTIVE MODELS TO GIVE US AN IDEA OF WHAT THESE WOULD LOOK LIKE SO THAT IS CORRECT. THE MODELS ARE BASED ON HISTORICAL MODELING OF FOOTBALL AND I'M LIKE I SAID I'VE BEEN AROUND THE BLOCK A FEW TIMES SO I HAVE MODELED PROBABLY HUNDREDS OF STADIUMS IN MY SO THEY ARE MODELS UNFORTUNATELY WE WERE HIRED AFTER THE SEASON ENDED SO I NEVER GOT TO SEE OR WITNESS OR MEASURE AN ACTUAL FOOTBALL GAME OF EITHER OF THESE. THEY'RE BASED ON OTHER HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL EVENTS OF SIMILAR SIZE AND SCOPE AND SO TO LIKE YOU SAID FOR THE MOST PART YOUR MODELS ARE ACCURATE AND TYPICALLY WITHIN ONE DECIMAL. SO THE ONLY WAY FOR US TO REALLY CONFIRM IS TO HAVE THESE IS WHEN THE STADIUMS ARE BUILT TO CONFIRM THE ACCURACY OF THE THE MODEL YEAH THAT IS THE MOST ACCURATE WAY TO IT BASED ON THE INPUTS INTO THE MODEL AND THEN YOU CAN YOU CAN LOOK AT YOU KNOW, VIRTUALLY ALL KINDS OF PIECES IN TERMS OF THE MODEL WAS CORRECT AND ACCURATE WITH ANY ONE OR ALL OF THOSE YOU COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN. THANK YOU, MAYOR. JUST A FEW QUESTIONS HERE. ONE QUESTION THAT I KNOW THAT RESIDENTS HAD ASKED ME WAS WITH REGARD TO WHY IT TOOK SO LONG TO RELEASE THE DATA. I DID NOT A REQUEST TO RELEASE THE DATA UNTIL LAST FRIDAY AND . THE DATA WAS RELEASED AS SOON AS WE GOT THE REQUEST OF THE DIFFICULTY IN RELEASING THIS DATA IS HOW YOU RELEASE IT AND WHAT DO YOU ACTUALLY SHOW BECAUSE ENORMOUSLY AND THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION THAT GOES INTO THESE THESE AND THEY'RE NOT SIMPLISTIC. SO I TRIED TO RELEASE A SUPER BOWL AMOUNT OF DATA THAT WAS COPASETIC WITH WHAT THE PUBLIC AND THEIR CONSULTANTS COULD UNDERSTAND AND WITNESS WITHOUT RELEASING ACTUAL MODEL PIECES WHICH REQUIRE YOU TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, LICENSES AND ALL THAT FUN STUFF AND KNOW HOW TO WORK A SOPHISTICATED AND INTENSIVE PROGRAM. THANK YOU FOR THAT. THERE IS SOME QUESTION THAT HAS BEEN RAISED WITH REGARDS TO THE NOISE STUDY ITSELF AND WHAT I WANTED YOU TO TALK ABOUT IS YOUR ETHICS AND HOW THAT IS GOVERNED FROM PROFESSIONAL STANDPOINT WITH REGARDS TO NOISE STUDIES AT, HOW YOU DO THAT AND HOW THAT'S GOVERNANCE. YOU COULD TALK A LITTLE ABOUT THAT AND I GOT ONE LAST QUESTION FOR YOU AFTER THIS FIRST. WELL, ALL BACK UP JUST A LITTLE BIT. THAT'S AWESOME. THE FIRM THAT'S BEEN IN BUSINESS THIS IS OUR OLDEST INCORPORATED CONSULTING FIRM IN UNITED STATES IN ACOUSTICS 1947. SO I BELIEVE IT'S OUR 77TH YEAR AND I'LL SAY REALISTICALLY YOU DON'T STAY IN BUSINESS THAT LONG WITHOUT BEING PRESENTING INFORMATION AND BEING HONEST ABOUT INFORMATION. SO ETHICALLY WE WE TRY TO HAVE THE HIGHEST STANDARDS WITH REGARDS TO ETHICS IN REGARDS TO HOW WE REPRESENT AND PRESENT DATA. AND YOU SEE HERE I'VE TRIED NOT TO HIDE NOTHING WITHIN STUDIES AND WITHIN THE INFORMATION THAT'S BEEN PRESENTED NOT ONLY THE CITY OF LONDON BUT ALSO TO OUR CLIENTS OUR REPUTATION IS STAKED ON IT AND OUR REPUTATION HAS BEEN HERE FOR 77 YEARS AND WILL CONTINUE TO BE HERE SO THERE THERE'S NO ADVANTAGE TO BE NEFARIOUS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. THE GOAL IS TO PRESENT INFORMATION TO THE BEST OF OUR ABILITIES AND THE BEST OF OUR CAPABILITIES USING OUR BEST ENGINEERING JUDGMENT TO PUT THESE MODELS AND THIS INFORMATION TOGETHER. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THAT. SO I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT. I I KNOW THE PROCESS BY WHICH THE CITY USES IS BY WHICH TO HAVE THE THE APPLICANT DRAFT THAT STUDY. AND SO SOMETIMES THERE IS SOME CONFUSION ABOUT THAT IN TERMS OF THE ETHICAL STANDARD OPERATES. LAST QUESTION I HAVE FOR YOU WHAT IS THE PROBABILITY THAT YOUR MODEL WOULD HAVE A VARIANCE THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO PASS TODAY IS THERE A PROBABILITY AROUND THAT OR A PERCENTAGE IN TERMS OF WHAT THE TERMS OF THESE MODELS THAT YOU'VE BROUGHT FORTH? I THINK THAT'S ENORMOUSLY HARD TO PREDICT ABOUT THE THE SPECIFIC QUALITY OF THE MODEL . LIKE I SAID, IF IF THE PARAMETERS THAT ARE LAID OUT WITHIN THE MODEL OR AND THEY WERE LAID OUT WITHIN OUR REPORT THEY WOULD PROVIDE WHICH INCLUDED THINGS LIKE WHAT THE LOUDSPEAKER LEVELS THAT WE ASSUMED AND A VARIETY OF OTHER THINGS WHICH INCLUDED THE CROWD NOISE USE PRIOR 2500 PEOPLE WE USED A SOUND PRESSURE LEVEL OF 85 DBA FROM THE OLD TEN LEVEL 7080 FOR THE L 50 LEVEL THAT'S BASED ON A CERTAIN INTENSITY OF THE CROWD NOISE WE LOOKED AT MARCHING NOISE, WE LOOKED AT BAND NOISE THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. SO TO THE EXTENT THAT THOSE ARE HELD THROUGH THE MODELS ARE ACCURATE. THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS THAT I CAN'T PREDICT YOU GET INTO I'LL SAY PLAYOFF GAMES AND THINGS LIKE THAT THE THEY GET A LITTLE MORE INTENSIVE THINGS LIKE THAT BUT RIGHT NOW WE TRY TO PREDICT BASED ON WHAT NORMAL CONDITIONS WERE GIVEN THE EVENT AND THEN YOU AS IT SAID YOU AS A SITUATED RIGHT NOW AND THE MAJOR PARAMETERS THAT WE USED IN OUR ASSUMPTIONS WERE WITHIN OUR REPORT AND I IMAGINE THAT'S KIND OF THE METHODOLOGY THAT YOU'VE USED IN MOST OF YOUR STUDIES RELATED TO THIS PARTICULAR PARTICULAR TYPES OF FACILITIES. ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU VERY. AND COUNCILMEMBER COUNCILMEMBER ELIAS AND THEN COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO RIVAS. JUST A COUPLE OF QUICK QUESTIONS. WHAT WERE YOU AT ANY TIME WERE ANY OF YOUR REPRESENTATIVES AT THE LOCATION THE KENNEDY STADIUM LOCATION? SO THAT ANSWER IS YES. SO ARJUN SHANKAR IS ONE OF MY EMPLOYEES WHO WORKED ON THESE PROJECTS. HE BEEN IN MINNESOTA A NUMBER OF TIMES AND TO MY KNOWLEDGE HAS BEEN TO BOTH LOCATIONS. YEAH JUST A FOLLOW FOLLOW UP QUESTION ON THAT. DID YOU USE ANY ON SITE TECHNOLOGY TO DO YOUR MODELS USES OR WHAT KIND OF DATA DID YOU USE TO CREATE THE MODELS SO YOU CREATED LOW WALLED ARCHITECTURE PRODUCED DRAWINGS FOR US AND THAT INCLUDES CIVIL INFORMATION ARCHITECTURAL GROUND INFORMATION ON SOIL INFORMATION THOSE TYPES OF THINGS THOSE WERE USED TO INFORM THE MODEL. THE DESIGNER WAS USED TO INFORM THE DESIGN ALL SIZES, HEIGHTS SPEAKER TYPES AND THEN OUR OWN KNOWLEDGE WAS USED OF THE SOURCING THAT'S CROWD NOISE FOOTBALL MOVES, PLAYS THOSE TYPES OF THINGS TO PREDICT NOISE ASSOCIATED WITH THOSE THANK YOU YEAH YOU'RE WELCOME. COUNCILMEMBER THANK YOU MR. MAYOR. GOOD EVENING. THANKS FOR BEING WITH US. THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. OF COURSE THERE WERE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS SPECIFICALLY TONIGHT THAT I THOUGHT MAYBE WE YOU ADDRESSING ONE OF THE PARTICULAR QUESTIONS THAT WE HAVE IS THAT IN THE IN THE MODEL THAT JULY ONE MODEL THAT WE HAVE HERE THERE IS A CONTENTION THAT SOME OF THE REFLECTION DOES DOES DOES NOT NECESSARILY HAVE PUN INTENDED REFLECT THE ACCURACY OF THE ENVIRONMENT THAT IT'S CONTAINED IN FOR EXAMPLE ONE OF THE PELLETS INDICATED THAT THERE'S A COURTYARD BETWEEN A BUILDING THIRD AVENUE THAT WOULD ACTUALLY ACT AS MORE OF AN AMPLIFIER THAN WHAT YOUR MODEL MIGHT SUGGEST. I WAS HOPING THAT MAYBE YOU COULD ARTICULATE A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT WHAT WHERE THE VARIABILITY IS IN THE ACOUSTIC MODELING THAT YOU HAVE AS THE SOUND MOVES THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ON THE ON THAT SIDE AND THIRD AVENUE WHAT WE MIGHT SEE IN TERMS OF VARIABILITY IF ANY THE MODEL AND YOU KNOW WHAT MIGHT BE THE LIKELIHOOD THAT SOMETHING LIKE AN AMPLIFICATION OF A COURTYARD THAT YOU DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO OR DID NOT HAVE VISIBILITY TO WHEN YOU DID THE MODEL MIGHT AFFECT WHAT YOU PUT OUT IN FRONT OF US TODAY. IT'S A REALLY INTERESTING QUESTION AND IT'S TIED IN A LITTLE THEORY SO I'LL TRY TO EXPLAIN SOME THEORY AND THEN I'LL SAY WHAT THE MODEL DOES AND HOW THE MODEL REACTS. SO THE FIRST FIRST QUESTION HAS TO DO WITH REFLECTIONS AND WHEN YOU KNOW REFLECTION ON WHAT HAPPENS AS YOU BUILD A WHAT IS A MIRRORED SOURCE. SO YOU'RE PREDICTING THE AMOUNT OF NOISE THAT'S GOING TO HIT A SURFACE AND IN THAT SURFACE YOU'RE THEN NEAR SECOND SOURCE THAT ACTUALLY IS THE BEER THE ONE YOU'RE DOING AT A AT THE SAME DISTANCE AWAY THE FROM THE REFLECTIVE SURFACE AS THE SOURCE THAT IS CAUSING THE REFLECTION. SO ACTUALLY FURTHER AWAY FROM IT. YEAH. SO TWO THINGS HAPPENED THE REFLECTIONS THE REFLECTIONS OR SO EVERYTHING AND ACOUSTIC ENERGY IS A SOUND LEVEL AND FREQUENCY SO HOW IT SOUNDS. SO THE REFLECTIONS TAKE INTO ACCOUNT SPECULAR QUALITY. IN OTHER WORDS, HOW HOW HOW TRANSPARENT THE REFLECTION IS HOW MUCH IT REFLECTS ACCURATELY IN TERMS OF COMPLETELY AND THEN WHETHER THAT REFLECTION IS TOTAL OR NOT. ALMOST EVERY SURFACE THERE IS NOT COMPLETELY REFLECTIVE. SO EVEN A STUCCO SURFACE OR A WOOD SURFACE TO BE ON THE EXTERIOR POLICIES MAYBE 70 OR 80% REFLECTIVE. SO IT'S NOT GOING TO REFLECT ALL THE ENERGY BACK. IT'S ALSO NOT GOING TO REFLECT THE EXACT SPECULAR AH CONTENT THAT WAS IMPINGING ON THE SURFACE AND THAT'S KIND OF THE THEORY OF REFLECTIONS. SO THE WAY THE MODEL WORKS IS YOU SET UP THE SURFACES FOR THE BUILDINGS AND THOSE SURFACES HAVE A REFLECTANCE OR AMOUNT OF TRANSMISSIBILITY THAT IS PIECES OF THEM. ONE PERSON TALKED ABOUT I'M WORRIED ABOUT MY TWO YEAR OLD BEING AFFECTED BY THE NOISE THAT'S ON THE INTERIOR OF THE HOUSE. SO THE ENERGY IS EITHER REFLECTED TRANSMITTED OR ABSORBED. SO WE'RE ONLY TALKING ABOUT THE REFLECTED ENERGY HERE. SO WHAT THE PROGRAM DOES IN IN REALITY IS IT IS BASED UPON THE INPUTS OF THAT SURFACE. IT IS REFLECTING A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF THE ENERGY THAT IS THAT IS THERE. NOW TYPICALLY WHAT THAT REFLECTION DOES IS IT CHANGES THE SPECULAR CHARACTER OF THE ENERGY WHERE IT GOES. IT DOESN'T ALWAYS THE SOUND IT CHANGES THE SOUND CHANGES HOW THE SOUND IS PRESENTED BUT IT MAY NOT ACTUALLY AMPLIFY THE SOUND. SOMETIMES IT DOES. MOST OF THE TIME IT DOES TYPICALLY IN SITUATIONS LIKE THIS. BUT THE GENERAL THINGS THAT ARE THE COURTYARD WILL NOT AMPLIFY THE SOUND. THE COURTYARD MAY AMPLIFY THE SCENT. I DID LOOK AT THE COURTYARD SPECIFICALLY IN THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE AND SAY IS THAT DATA REFLECTIVE WHAT IS HAPPENING EXACTLY AT THAT POINT? I DID NOT DO THAT AND SPECIFICALLY I DID NOT LOOK AT THE MODEL IN THAT LEVEL OF DETAIL WHERE IT GOT DOWN TO THE GRANULAR LEVEL OF SPECIFIC LOCATION. I WANTED TO LOOK AT THE OVERALL PATTERN OF THE MODEL AND HOW ACCURATE THE MODEL WAS ESPECIALLY AS IT RELATED TO THE SENSITIVE RECEPTORS COMING OFF OF THE STADIUM ITSELF. THAT'S ACTUALLY I HOPE THAT EXPLAINS WHAT YOU NEEDED. THAT WAS REALLY HELPFUL. THANK YOU. SO SO I GUESS THE FOLLOW UP QUESTION JUST SEE IF YOU CAN ANSWER THE SECOND PIECE OF THAT WAS DO YOU YOU ANTICIPATE OR CAN YOU PROVIDE A PLUS OR MINUS? YOU MENTIONED EARLIER YOU KNOW THAT MOST OF THE TIME THESE THINGS ARE PERFORMATIVE WITHIN A DECIBEL OR WHATEVER. YOU CONSIDER A SITUATION LIKE THAT TO HAVE A POTENTIAL A HIGHER DEGREE OF VARIABILITY IN THE MODEL BASED WHAT YOU DID OR DID NOT INCLUDE AT TT OF SPECIFICITY. OH YES. IT WILL HAVE A HIGHER OF VARIABILITY TYPICALLY MAYBE 2D. OKAY LET'S BE MUCH MORE THAN THAT. PROVIDING THE INPUTS ARE CORRECT. OKAY. AND MORE SLIGHTLY MORE IN SPECIAL CONDITIONS. OKAY. UNDERSTOOD TO FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS VERY QUICKLY IF I MAY, MR. MAYOR. ONE USE YOU SAID YOU USED FOOTBALL AS YOUR MODEL. DID YOU A FOOTBALL? DID YOU MODEL FOOTBALL SOUNDS AND FOOTBALL SOUNDS WITH THE SAME SIZE EXPECTATIONS THAT WE HAVE HERE 2500 SPECTATORS A BAND OF X NUMBER, ETC., ETC.. WAS THAT WAS THAT AT THAT LEVEL OR WAS IT A KIND OF AN AVERAGE ACROSS A LOT OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF FOOTBALL GAMES? NO, IT WAS AT THAT LEVEL. OKAY. THIS EVENT THE EVENT LEVELS HERE THAT I ANTICIPATE THE PARAMETERS THAT WE HAD. OKAY. AND AND FOR THE BAND SIMILARLY YOU HAD THE SAME SIZE, THE SAME YOU KNOW, NUMBER OF BRASS INSTRUMENTS VERSUS DRUM KITS VERSUS THAT KIND OF THING. YOU KIND MODELED ALL THAT TOGETHER AS WELL. YES. OKAY THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. COUNCILMEMBER NELSON, ANOTHER BITE AT THE APPLE. THANK YOU, MAYOR. I JUST HAVE ONE OTHER QUESTION BASED ON YOUR EXPERIENCE AND IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'VE WORKED ON A NUMBER OF STADIUMS. DO HAVE ANY THOUGHTS ON POTENTIAL MITIGATIONS? KNOW A COUPLE OF THESE HOUSES ARE FAIRLY CLOSE TO THAT. DB CUTOFF LEVEL PARTICULARLY AT JEFFERSON BUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT KENNEDY RIGHT NOW. DO YOU HAVE THOUGHTS ON THINGS THAT WOULD BE THINGS THAT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND THE ARCHITECT SHOULD BE LOOKING AT DOING TO AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE EVEN IF THEY ARE MEETING THE STANDARD REDUCE THE IMPACT TO THE NEIGHBORHOODS AROUND IT PARTICULARLY THINGS THAT ARE LOW HANGING FRUIT EASIER TO IMPLEMENT NOT LIKE SOUND WALLS AND THINGS LIKE THAT BUT YOU KNOW TREES. IN YOUR EXPERTIZE DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEAS HOW TO HELP THAT? SURE. THANKS FOR THE QUESTION. FIRST I'LL JUST PREFACE THAT WITH YES. YOU'RE CORRECT THAT BOTH OF ALL OF THE REQUIREMENTS ARE BEING SATISFIED FOR QUALITY IN TERMS OF THAT THE INFORMATION THAT WE TOOK IN SO EVERYTHING'S BEEN SATISFIED AS IT IS RIGHT NOW IN TERMS OF MITIGATION APPROACHES RIGHT NOW THE NUMBER ONE SO IF YOU RANK ORDER THE SOURCES NUMBER ONE SOURCE THAT AFFECTS THESE RESIDENCES ARE THE SPEAKERS THEMSELVES. SO SPEAKERS LECTURE AND SPEAKER LOCATION SPEAKER TYPE ALL OF THOSE KIND OF THING CAN LOOKED AT AS THIS BECOMES AS IF THIS MOVES THROUGH THE THE THE DESIGN PROCESS OF DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION TO OPTIMIZE THAT. BUT THE NUMBER ONE SOURCE THAT'S AFFECTING THE COMMUNITY IS THE SPEAKERS AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN CONTROL . SO ONE FINAL QUESTION FROM ME YOU HAD MENTIONED THE VARIABILITY BEING THE PLUS OR MINUS ONE AND WE'RE LOOKING AT IN A COUPLE OF THESE INSTANCES WHERE IT'S RIGHT AT 65 DECIBELS WHICH IS THE LIMIT THE NIGHTTIME LIMIT EXCUSE ME. SO IF IT WERE A VARIABILITY OF PLUS OR MINUS ONE SO FOR EXAMPLE IF IT WENT DOWN TO 64 DECIBELS COULD COULD A HUMAN STANDING THERE EVEN NOTICE THAT? IS THAT EVEN NOTABLE AND AN ANSWER TO THAT? THE SHORT ANSWER THAT ONE IS NO AND THAT'S WHY I DON'T REALLY PLAY THE GAMES AROUND YOU KNOW THIS PLUS OR MINUS ONE IN IN AN EXTERIOR NOISE SYSTEM. REMEMBER WE ARE ALSO TALKING ABOUT EXPOSURE OF 10% OF THE TIME AND EXPOSURE 50% OF THE TIME. THE STADIUM'S NOT GOING TO BE INAUDIBLE. IT'S ASSIGNABLE, IT'S GOING TO BE PRESENT ALL OF THAT FUN STUFF. BUT IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ONE DB IN AN EL TEN YOU'LL NEVER KNOW THE DIFFERENCE. YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO TELL IT AT ALL. THANK YOU COUNSEL. ANYTHING AITIONAL? I APPRECIATE YOUR ANSWERING OUR QUESTIONS AND SPENDING SOME TIME WITH US THIS EVENING. I'M MIGHT RECOMMEND YOU DON'T GO ANYWHERE QUITE YET BUT WE'LL WE'RE GOING TO TURN TO COUNSEL DISCUSSION RIGHT NOW I THINK AND IF WE HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS WE'RE CALLING ONCE AGAIN IF THAT'S OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. SO COUNSEL, ANY ONE OTHER THING THAT I WANTED TO DO I THINK WE HAD A HANDFUL OF QUESTIONS THAT CAME DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING THAT I WAS GOING TO THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN, FOR REMINDING OF THAT AND THAT I JUST WANTED TO GO THROUGH REALLY QUICKLY HERE. ONE SPEAKER TALKED ABOUT I THINK WHAT COUNCILMEMBER NELSON WAS TALKING ABOUT MITIGATIONS AND LANDSCAPING AND THAT TYPE OF THING. MR. CENTENARIO ARE THERE POSSIBILITIES THAT BEING CONSIDERED OR EVEN POSSIBILITIES THAT WOULD HELP OR WOULD BE APPLICABLE IN SPECIFIC SPECIFICALLY IN KENNEDY BUT I THINKING BROADLY AS WELL. SURE. MR.. EXCUSE ME AS MERCOSUR MEMBERS YOU KNOW, I THINK WHAT JUST HEARD FROM THE CONSULTANT WAS THE NUMBER ONE SOURCE OF POTENTIAL MITIGATION IS THE SPEAKER SYSTEM AND CERTAINLY THAT'S THAT'S THE LOW HANGING FRUIT. I THINK THAT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT WILL LOOK. YOU KNOW JUST THAT IS SOMETHING THAT THEY CAN CONTROL. YOU KNOW, SOME WALLS ARE I WOULD IMAGINE ARE PROHIBITIVELY EXPENSIVE AND. I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH IMPACT THAT THEY HAVE. LANDSCAPING IS MORE AS I UNDERSTAND IT MORE PERCEPTION THAN ACTUAL REDUCTION IN NOISE. SO I THINK IF YOU PLANT TREES DENSE ENOUGH THERE MIGHT BE A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT BUT AGAIN THAT'S THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN CONSIDERED TO DATE. THANK YOU. THERE WAS ANOTHER QUESTION ALSO WHAT SPECIFICALLY WOULD TRIGGER PROOF OF PARKING NEED TO BE LOOKED AT MORE IN-DEPTH OR ULTIMATELY IMPLEMENTED. MR. MAYOR. SO WITH PROOF OF PARKING THERE IS ACTUALLY A LEGAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON AND IT WOULD BE THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND THAT AGREEMENT IS SIGNED BY BOTH PARTIES ACTUALLY RECORDED AGAINST THE PROPERTY. SO THERE WAS SOME COMMENTS ABOUT WELL WHAT A NEW SCHOOL OR ENTITY OVER TOOK OVER THAT SPACE. WELL THAT AGREEMENT WOULD RUN WITH THE LAND WOULD NOT RUN WITH BLOOMINGTON SCHOOL DISTRICT SPECIFICALLY. SO HOW WE EVALUATE THAT IS WE HAVE TO OBSERVE CONSISTENT PARKING ISSUES. YOU KNOW WHERE THE BAND IS UNDER THE OR THE SUPPLY DOESN'T MEET THE DEMAND ON A REGULAR BASIS. SO IF YOU HAVE A ONE OFF EVENT IN A YEAR CHANCES ARE WE'RE WE'RE NOT GOING TO FEEL THAT THAT IS AN ONGOING SIGNIFICANT ISSUE. BUT IF WE'RE SAYING EVERY WEEKEND THERE'S A PARKING PROBLEM AND WE'RE RECEIVING COMPLAINTS GOING TO INVESTIGATE AND HYPOTHETICALLY THE CITY COULD COMPEL THE SCHOOL DISTRICT TO BUILD THAT PARKING. COUNSEL DID I MISS ANY SPECIFICALLY FOR MR. CENTENARIO AND WE'LL GO ON TO OTHER THINGS AT ALL BUT DO COUNCILMAN COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO DIDN'T MISS ANY THAT MR. CENTENARIO COULD ANSWER? I THINK ONE OF THE OPEN QUESTIONS THAT FOR MR. CENTENARIO THAT MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE COME UP IN THE PUBLIC HEARING I APOLOGIZE IF THAT'S THE CASE BUT THERE WAS I THINK YOU KIND OF ALLUDING TO IT. THERE'S THESE ONGOING CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL AND I THINK WHAT PEOPLE ARE ASKING IS LIKE HOW ON AN ONGOING BASIS IS THAT GOING TO BE MONITORED IN MAIN STREET? SO IT'S THINGS LIKE PARKING DEMAND HAS TO EXCEED SUPPLY SIGNS COMPLIANCE LOADING AND UNLOADING OFF OF PUBLIC STREETS PICK UP UP OFF OUR STREETS. I MEAN HOW DO YOU ALL MONITORING AND ENFORCING IF NECESSARY THESE ONGOING CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL? SURE. COUNCILMEMBER. GREAT QUESTION. YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THOSE ELEMENTS ARE BEFORE A BUILDING PERMIT IS ISSUED. SO WE HAVE TO THE CAN BEFORE CONSTRUCTION CAN BEGIN. SO THAT'S HOW WE ENSURE COMPLIANCE LEAST INITIALLY. SOMETIMES PLANS GO THROUGH MINOR THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS. WE ALSO HAVE ANOTHER CHECK BEFORE CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY WHERE WE WOULD HAVE TO DO LIGHTING INSPECTIONS. WE HAVE TO HAVE MORE INFORMATION ON POST INSTALLATION OF THE SOUND SYSTEMS TO ENSURE THAT COMPLIANT AND THEN YOU KNOW AT SOME POINT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO OUT TO THE SITE DURING GAMES AND YOU KNOW THAT'S I DON'T ANTICIPATE THAT WE WILL BE DOING THAT FOR YEARS TO COME BUT CERTAINLY INITIALLY AS THE STADIUMS ARE NEW AND KIND OF GETTING LOCKED IN THERE, THEY'RE PARAMETERS. THAT'S SOMETHING WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO INSPECT. COUNCILMEMBER DID I MISS ONE MISCUE SINCE I DON'T KNOW SORT OF EITHER FOR YOU AND CENTENARIO SO THAT ONE COMMENT OR MENTION SOMETHING ABOUT AND YOU KIND OF ALLUDED TO IT EARLIER RENTAL PROPERTY USE DOESN'T SEEM TO BE GERMANE TO THIS PARTICULAR ACTUALLY THAT WAS NEXT ON MY LIST IT WAS IT REALLY YOU KNOW I'M GOING TO LET YOU WISH YOU HAD AND THANK YOU MR. CENTENARIO I THINK WE'RE GOOD AND I'M I'M LOOKING AT OUR OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT REPRESENTATIVES HERE. WE'VE HEARD A LOT ABOUT OUTSIDE RENTAL ISSUES IS THERE IS A AN OMBUDSMAN BEYOND THE SUPERINTENDENT'S OFFICE WORKING DIRECTLY WITH THE NEIGHBORHOODS OR ADDRESSING OF THESE ISSUES THAT WE'VE HEARD ABOUT TRAFFIC AND TRASH AND NOISE AND SO SO THANK YOU, MAYOR. WHEN I MET WITH SOME OF THE CITIZENS A WEEK OR SO AGO, WE TALKED QUITE A BIT ABOUT THAT AND SORT OF CHAIN OF COMMAND IF YOU HAVE AN ISSUE WITH WITH AN EVENT GOING ON, WHO SHOULD YOU CALL? AND I THINK THAT CAME UP EARLIER. SO WE HAVE TWO PARTS WE'VE GOT BUILDING RESERVATIONS. WE'VE GOT A, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE OF PEOPLE WHO WORK ON THAT IN THE DISTRICT ACTIVITY CENTER, THINGS LIKE THAT. BUT FOR THE FOR THE FIELDS SPECIFICALLY WHAT I TOLD RESIDENTS AND WE'LL WORK WITH OUR STAFF ON IS GO TO THE BUILDING PRINCIPAL KENNEDY OR THAT'S YOUR FIRST STOP FOR CONCERNS REGARDING WHATEVER ISSUE COMES UP AT THE STADIUM AND THEN IN THE CHAIN OF COMMAND SINCE IT WOULD GO TO THE ASSISTANT SUPERINTENDENT WAS IN THE BACK OF THE ROOM STILL I THINK TONIGHT DR. JOHN AND IF THAT DIDN'T RESOLVE THE ISSUE NEEDED MORE WORK THEN WE'D GO TO THE SUPERINTENDENT SO WE DO HAVE A PLAN FOR A WE DON'T HAVE AN OMBUDSPERSON BUT WE HAVE A CHAIN OF COMMAND TO ADDRESS ISSUES VERY GOOD AND THE THE OUTSIDE OF A WRITTEN AGREEMENT IT'S THE ONGOING CONVERSATIONS, THE ONGOING RELATIONSHIPS THAT ARE DEVELOPING UNDERSTANDABLY AND WE HEARD FROM SOME FOLKS THAT THEY MIGHT HAVE FELT A BIT BURNED IN THE PAST BUT. THE RELATIONSHIPS THAT ARE BEING DEVELOPED NOW, THE WORK THAT'S BEING DONE HOPEFULLY WILL LEAD TO BETTER OUTCOMES OR OR IS THERE A MORE SPECIFIC PLAN THAN THAN WHAT I'VE JUST DESCRIBED? WELL, I'M COMMITTED TO BETTER OUTCOMES AND I'M COMMITTED TO BUILDING POSITIVE AND STRONG RELATIONSHIPS IN THE COMMUNITY AND WITH OUR NEIGHBORS. YOU KNOW, SHORT OF ME SAYING THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT IS THE PLAN RIGHT NOW. THANK YOU. I WAS THERE ANYTHING ELSE COUNCILMEMBER LOMAN ALONG THIS LINE THAT I WAS FORGETTING YEAH THERE'S A COUPLE ITEMS HERE BUT THERE'S JUST ONE ITEM THAT WAS BROUGHT UP AND AGAIN I DON'T THIS ISN'T NECESSARILY FOR HIM BUT ONE OF THE COMMENTS WAS MADE THAT WHEN THE GAME IS OVER, IT'S NOT OVER. THERE'S A CELEBRATION OF WHEN AND I DON'T YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU CONTROL THAT BUT YOU KNOW I MEAN I THROW THAT THERE AND THERE'S A COUPLE OTHER QUESTIONS HERE THAT WERE DIRECTLY RELATED TO YOU AND I THINK THAT'S ALONG THE LINES OF NEIGHBORHOOD RELATIONS. YEAH. AND ONE OF THE COMMENTS CAME UP YEAH I GOT THAT COMMENT AS WELL AND I WOULD WORK WITH OUR PRINCIPALS AND OUR ATHLETIC COACHING ACTIVITIES TO ENSURE WE ARE GOING TO RESPECT THE AND THE RULES AND BE DONE YOU KNOW BY TENANT NOT HAVING IF WERE TO HAPPEN WE WOULD DEAL WITH IT OF COURSE BUT THAT'S NOT OUR INTENTION. WE WE WE WANT TO FOLLOW THE RULES AND I WANT TO BE CAREFUL MAYOR WITH THESE TWO ONES HERE BUT I WANTED TO GIVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO IF YOU THOUGHT IT WAS GERMANE THERE THERE WAS A COMMENTER THAT HAD MENTIONED SOMETHING TO THE FACT THAT THE SCHOOL HAD LOOKED HAD THE SCHOOL LOOKED AT OPTIONS FOR COMBINING THE STADIUMS AND THEN ANOTHER COMMENT THAT MADE WAS THATF THEY WOULD HAVE DECIDED TO DO THAT THEY WOULD HAVE SAVED MILLION DOLLARS OF TAXPAYERS DOLLARS IF THEY WOULD BUILT ONE STADIUM AND I WANTED TO GET THAT RECORD CLEARED UP. YEAH. IF I'M NOT SURE THAT GENTLEMAN'S FACTS ARE COMING FROM I DISAGREE WITH THAT ASSERTION WITH THE COST AND YES WE DID OF COURSE WE HAVE ONE STADIUM NOW AND SO THAT THAT WAS A DISCUSSION BUT YOU HEARD MULTIPLE GOOD REASONS I THINK WHY WE WOULD HAVE ONE ONSITE FIELDS AT BOTH HIGH SCHOOLS OKAY VERY GOOD COUNSEL . DI I MISS ANY QUESTIONS THAT MIGHT WANT TO ADDRESS COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN JUST ONE LAST ONE HERE. THERE WAS THE REQUEST FOR CLOSING JOHNSON STREET BUT THAT'S MORE FOR JEFFERSON SO I WASN'T SURE WHAT IT WAS. IT WAS RAISED SO WELL YES I'VE ACTUALLY GOT THAT IN THE LOWER HALF OF MY SHEET HERE AS A QUESTION TO ASK THEN. SO ALL RIGHT COUNSEL, WE HAVE A LOT OF INFORMATION IN FRONT OF US TONIGHT. WE'VE HEARD FROM A LOT OF DIFFERENT FOLKS AND AS I THINK WE'VE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT AND WE KIND OF FRAMED UP A LITTLE BIT EARLIER THIS EVENING WE'RE IN A QUASI JUDICIAL ROLE HERE AND IT'S OUR JOB TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THOSE FOUR QUESTIONS THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION SAID THE APPLICANTS DID MEET AND THEY SAID YES TO DO WE AGREE WITH THAT AND IF THERE IS ONE THAT IS A NO, WHAT WOULD THAT BE AND WHAT WOULD BE THE WHAT WOULD BE THE JUSTIFICATION BECAUSE ALL IT WOULD TAKE WOULD BE 1 TO 2 TO DENY THIS. SO THINK LET'S START OUR CONVERSATION IF THERE WAS IF WE ALL AGREE ON ALL FOUR THAT YES THE APPLICANT DID INDEED MEET ALL FOUR OF THOSE QUESTIONS WERE MOVING FORWARD BUT IF THERE IS THAT POSSIBLY COULD JUMP UP THAT THE APPLICANT DID NOT MEET LET'S HAVE THAT CONVERSATION AND DECIDE AS A COUNSEL WHETHER OR NOT THAT WOULD BE CASE OF COUNCILMEMBER WOMAN WELL I IT OFF TO THAT CONVERSATION SO I THINK AGAIN WE'RE IN A QUASI JUDICIAL THING AND WE'VE GOT THE FOUR QUESTIONS IN FRONT OF US. SO THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS NOT IN CONFLICT WITH COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IN TERMS OF I'VE HEARD SOME SOME DISCUSSION AND CONVERSATION ABOUT MAYBE SOME CHANGES THAT HAVE BEEN MADE TO THE COMPREHENSIVE BUT BUT SHORT OF THAT, YOU KNOW, COUNCILMEMBER NELSON HAD BROUGHT ITEMS UP AND GOTTEN CLARIFICATION ON THAT KNOW I'M ABLE TO MAKE THAT I'M ABLE TO MAKE THAT THAT FINDING EVIDENCE IS THERE YOU KNOW STAFF HAS PUT THAT FORTH THE PLANNING COMMISSION PUT FORTH OTHER THAN THAT THAT SMALL PIECE THERE I'M ABLE TO MAKE THAT FINDING THE SECOND ONE THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS NOT IN CONFLICT WITH ANY OF THE ADOPTED DISTRICT PLAN FOR IT. WELL THERE IS NO DISTRICT PLAN FOR THAT AREA OF KENNEDY SO THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT IS GERMANE TO THIS. AND THE NUMBER THREE ROSEVILLE IS DON'T CONFLICT WITH THE CITY CODE PROVISION OR STATE LAWS AND I'M NOT AWARE OF ANYTHING THAT FALLS WITHIN THAT THAT THAT CREATES CONFLICT WITH THAT THAT'S BEEN RAISED TONIGHT. I LISTENED VERY CAREFULLY TO TO THOSE FOLKS THAT HAD APPEALED THIS AND I DIDN'T HEAR ANYTHING THAT'S PART OF THAT NOW. WE MOVE TO THE FOURTH AREA HERE. THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT WILL NOT BE INTERESTS TO THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD OR OTHERWISE HARM THE HEALTH, SAFETY OR WELFARE. AND I DID HEAR A COUPLE OF ITEMS THERE THAT I FOUND OF INTEREST. MAYOR, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF THAT CONVERSATION I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT THE NOISE STUDY THAT WAS PUT FORWARD. THERE WAS SOME AND IF I'M HONEST WITH MYSELF THERE WAS A DISCUSSION AROUND THE COURTYARD THAT WOULD POTENTIALLY PUSH THAT NOISE STUDY OVER THE LIMITS. SO BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS YOU KNOW, THAT THEY WOULD HAVE PROBABLY TAKEN THAT INTO ACCOUNT. BUT THAT'S A LITTLE BIT OF CONFUSION AND THAT I HAVE HEARD ON SOME OCCASION THROUGH THE TESTIMONY THIS EVENING THAT FOLKS ARE CONCERNED ABOUT ,YOU KNOW, FIRE ENGINES AND POLICE BEING ABLE TO GET GET TO THE STADIUMS. I BELIEVE I'VE HEARD IN MITIGATION FROM STAFF AROUND LOOKING AT THOSE DIFFERENT STREETS THIRD AVENUE. SO I GUESS THE ONLY REAL ISSUE THAT I HAVE AROUND THAT FOURTH ONE IS THE COURTYARD PIECE THAT WAS RAISED IF I'M HONEST OTHER THAN THAT I THINK ALL OF THESE FINDINGS, THIS COUNCILMEMBERS PERSPECTIVE HAVE BEEN MET. COUNCILMEMBER CARTER. THANK YOU, MAYOR. SO I AGREE FINDINGS ONE THROUGH THREE IT'S PRETTY CLEAR THAT THEY HAVE BEEN MET I THINK COMING INTO THIS DISCUSSION TODAY THE ONE THAT I HAD THE MOST QUESTIONS LIKE MANY WAS AROUND NOISE. BUT I AM YOU KNOW, I'M REALLY GRATEFUL WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO HEAR FROM SOUND ENGINEER AND I THINK HE WAS OBVIOUSLY HIGHLY QUALIFIED WITH 35 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE. UCLA MASTER'S DEGREE LIKE ALL THE THINGS RIGHT AND SO AS MUCH AS SOME OF US MIGHT LIKE TO YOU KNOW, TRY TO THINK ABOUT NOISE AND FIGURE HOW IT WORKS, THE FACT IS HE REALLY TRULY IS THE EXPERT AND HAS BEEN DOING THIS FOR MANY, MANY YEARS AND SO I AM CHOOSING TO TRUST THAT, YOU KNOW, HE TAKES HIS PROFESSIONAL REPUTATION VERY SERIOUSLY AND IS GIVING US GOOD INFORMATION IN ADDITION YOU KNOW I DID SOME BACK OF THE BACK OF THE NAPKIN MATH AND I THINK I HEARD DR. MALVIYA SAY IT BE AROUND FOR FRIDAY NIGHTS A YEAR, MAYBE A COUPLE MORE IF THERE'S PLAYOFFS AND THEN TEN MORE EVENTS FOR OTHER SPORTS. SO THAT'S 14 EVENTS AND LET'S JUST SAY THAT THEY RUN FOR 3 HOURS WHICH IS WAY MORE THAN THEY WOULD THAT'S 42 HOURS A YEAR AND THERE'S 8760 HOURS IN A YEAR. SO IT'S POINT 5% OF THE TIME AND THAT IS NOT EVEN GOING TO BE AND THAT'S THAT'S THAT WOULD BE THEN ASSUMING 3 HOURS WE'RE HITTING THAT SOUND THRESHOLD RIGHT AND I THINK IT'S 10% MAYBE SO IT'S LIKE I THINK WE HAVE TO ALSO OF PUT IT IN PERSPECTIVE I THINK OF POOR LIKE OF COURSE OUR NUMBER ONE PRIORITY HERE IS BEING VERY OBJECTIVE AND THE SOUND STUDY SHOWS THAT IT IS FALLING WITHIN THE THRESHOLDS . BUT THEN I ALSO THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO PUT IT INTO PERSPECTIVE IN OF THE IT'S NOT GOING TO BE CONSTANT ALL OUT NOISE ALL YEAR ROUND AND SO AGAIN COMING INTO THE MEETING THOSE THAT'S PROBABLY THE AREA THAT I HAD THE MOST QUESTIONS AROUND BUT I FEEL LIKE MY QUESTIONS HAVE BEEN ANSWERED AND I FEEL VERY I FEEL THAT WE HAVE MET CONDITION FOR COUNCILMEMBER COUNCILMEMBER THANK YOU MAYOR I BELIEVE ALSO WE'VE MET ALL FOUR CONDITIONS THE BIGGEST PART FOR ME WHEN THIS CAME BACK LAST TIME WAS SURE THAT OUR PLANNING COMMISSION HAD A GOOD LOOK AT THIS WE TASSLER COMMISSION WITH MAKING SURE THAT PROJECTS LIKE THESE CONFORM AND FOLLOW SIN CITY ORDINANCES AND THEY KICKED IT BACK TO SCHOOL DISTRICTS DURING THE FIRST INITIAL MEETING AND SO AS WE'VE GONE THROUGH THIS PROCESS WE'VE VETTED THIS THOROUGHLY. THE SCHOOL DISTRICT HAS FORTH A GOOD FAITH PROPOSAL TO US AND HAS DEDICATE NEEDED TO USE THE BEST SOUND CONSULTANTS IN THE NATION THIS AND SO I APPRECIATE THAT SO FROM FROM MY STANDPOINT I SEE THAT THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT HAS MET ALL FOUR CONDITIONS COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO THANK YOU MR. MAYOR. SO I AGREE COMPLETELY. YOU KNOW THE ISSUES I HAVE AREN'T NECESSARILY RELATED TO WHETHER OR NOT. THE FINDINGS ARE MADE BECAUSE I THINK THAT THEY HAVE BEEN MADE I WOULD I WOULD ARGUE THAT THERE ARE PROBABLY AS I ALWAYS DO WAYS THAT WE CAN MAKE OUR REQUIREMENT BETTER FOR OUR ENVIRONMENT IN THE FIRST PLACE SO THAT WE HOLD OUR THESE THINGS TO A HIGHER STANDARD GOING FORWARD. BUT THAT'S NOT THE QUESTION THAT'S IN FRONT OF US TODAY. RIGHT. SO I LOVE MANY OF THE PROPOSALS THAT WERE PROVIDED BY OUR RESIDENTS I, I BELIEVE AND I THINK I SAID THIS THAT'S IN THE LAST MINUTES THE MINUTES FROM THE LAST MEETING THAT WE APPROVED TONIGHT I WOULD ASK THE SCHOOL BOARD TO DO BETTER THAN JUST THE MINIMUM HERE TERMS OF OF MAKING ACCOMMODATION MAKING THAT THAT THEY HAVE AN OUTREACH PLAN YOU KNOW THAT INCLUDES THE SCHOOL BOARD WHICH ARE THE ELECTED OFFICIALS THAT ARE THE PEOPLE THAT THESE CITIZENS KNOW VERY WELL IT'S A VERY STRANGE THING TO ME THAT THEY ARE NOT INVOLVED IN COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT ABOUT STUFF LIKE THIS AND DON'T KNOW THE RULES BEHIND THAT. BUT I KNOW THEY'RE HERE AND THEY'RE HEARING AND I'M ADMONISHING THEM TO FIGURE IT OUT BECAUSE WE GOT ALL KINDS OF RESIDENT REQUESTS WHEN AS COUNCIL MEMBERS BECAUSE WE'RE THE ELECTED THAT ARE HERE TO REPRESENT THE THE BODY OF RESIDENTS, OUR SEATS OUR SCHOOL BOARD HAS THAT SAME OBLIGATION AND THINK THAT SOME OF THEM I DON'T WANT TO USE THE WORD ACRIMONY I DON'T REALLY HAVE ANOTHER WORD FOR IT. BUT SOME OF THE CONTENTION MAYBE THAT HAPPENED BEFORE OVER THE LAST YEAR COULD HAVE BEEN AVOIDED WITH A MORE COMPREHENSIVE AND A, YOU KNOW, COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT APPROACH AND IT DOESN'T STOP SCHOOL BOARD AND THE DISTRICT FROM DOING BETTER THAN WHAT THE CITY'S REQUIREMENT. AH SO I WANT TO JUST ENCOURAGE OUR OUR OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT TO NOT FIRE AND FORGET THIS THING AND LIKE US HERE TWO YEARS LATER BECAUSE WE HAVE SOME MAJOR PROBLEMS THAT HAVE BECOME CHRONIC ABOUT THIS STUFF LIKE WE HAVE IN SOME OTHER SITUATIONS WHERE WE HEAR CHRONIC COMPLAINING I DON'T WANT THAT TO HAPPEN HERE. I WANT THE THE EVERYBODY INVOLVED THE STAFF HERE AT CITY, THE STAFF AT THE DISTRICT, OUR SCHOOL BOARD MEMBERS, YOU KNOW COUNCIL MEMBERS ALL WORKING TOGETHER TO MAKE SURE THAT THESE THIS IS, YOU KNOW, FIVE YEARS WHEN WE LOOK BACK ON IT, WE SAY TO EVERYBODY LIKE THIS IS ONE OF THE BEST DECISIONS WE COULD HAVE EVER MADE AND LOOK HOW, THINGS ARE GOING AS OPPOSED TO YOU KNOW, WE DIDN'T HANDLE IT WELL NOW WE HAVE ALL THESE COMPLAINTS AND PEOPLE ARE YELLING AT US ON THE REGULAR RIGHT. SO IT REALLY DOES COME DOWN TO EXECUTION AT THIS POINT. THIS IS ONE STEP IN A VERY LONG PROCESS AND MOST OF IT IS GOING TO COME DOWN TO EXECUTION SENSITIVITY OF WHICH NONE OF MY COMMENTS ARE RELEVANT IN THE LONG TERM BEYOND TO SAY LIKE I DON'T WANT TO I DON'T WANT TO HEAR ABOUT IT TWO YEARS FROM NOW AND I THINK WE CAN MAKE THAT THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN IF WE PUT A GOOD EXECUTION PLAN IN PLACE AND. SO THAT'S WHAT I THAT'S WHAT I WOULD HOPE THAT WE DO. THANK YOU. THAT'S PREMIER NELSON. THANK YOU, MAYOR. FIRST OF ALL, I'D LIKE TO THANK EVERYONE FOR INPUT ON THIS. VERY NICE OF YOU ALL TO COME OUT HERE FOR SO LONG AND HANG OUT WITH US TONIGHT. THE WHAT I HAVE SEEN IN LOOKING AT THIS OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS AND EVEN BEFORE THAT BACK TO NOVEMBER IS WE HAVE A SCHOOL DISTRICT THAT WANTS TO BE RESPONSIVE TO THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY AND I THANK YOU FOR THAT. AND WE HAVE RESIDENTS THAT ARE GOING TO BE DIRECTLY IMPACTED BY SOMETHING THAT I THINK THE VAST, VAST, VAST MAJORITY OF THIS COMMUNITY BELIEVES IS THE RIGHT DIRECTION TO GO AND IT'S GOING TO BE A REAL BENEFIT TO OUR COMMUNITY AND THEY'RE JUST LOOKING AT HEY, HOW DO WE MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T UNDULY OR UNNECESSARILY BURDEN PEOPLE RIGHT NEXT TO IT? AND YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY WERE HERE TODAY THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT MITIGATION, NOT STOPPING THIS PROJECT. AND SO I THINK WE HAVE TWO PARTIES THE CITY OBVIOUSLY ALWAYS PLAYS A PRODUCTIVE ROLE IN THAT. SO THREE PARTIES THAT I THINK CAN WORK TOGETHER AS WE GO THROUGH THE PROCESS AND MAKE SURE THAT THIS WORKS. THE BIGGEST FEAR I HAVE I THINK IT CLEARLY IS RELATED TO THE NOISE AND IT I WANT TO DO EVERYTHING WE POSSIBLY TO DEAL WITH THAT BEFORE THE PROJECTS BUILT NOT AFTER THE FACT WE GO IN AND TEST IT AND IT'S NOT IT'S GOING TO COST THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY MORE MONEY, MORE AND A LITTLE BIT OF ACRIMONY AND THAT SORT OF THING. I THINK EVERYONE'S COMMITTED TO THAT IN TERMS OF MEETING THE FOUR THINGS I THINK IT CLEARLY DOES I DO A COUPLE ON THE FOURTH ONE THAT ARE RELATED TO CONDITIONS AND. MAYBE THIS JUST CLARIFICATION FOR ME THE LIGHTING NEEDS TO BE APPROVED BY OUR STAFF DOES THAT LIKE PATHWAYS SOMEONE BROUGHT UP THE STREET WHERE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE WALKING AFTER THESE GAMES BECAUSE I'VE HEARD FROM PEOPLE YOU KNOW HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THAT YOU KNOW DARK KNIGHT YOU HAVE SOMEBODY WALKING CARS OTHER CARS DRIVING AND YOU KNOW, HAVING A NARROWER STREET AND THINGS LIKE THAT WELL WELL THOSE TYPES OF AREAS SO THE PATHS THE STREETS BE PART OF THAT REVIEW OF LIGHTING AND THEN THERE WAS A CONDITION THAT I HAD THOUGHT WAS IN THERE PREVIOUSLY REGARDING TRASH AND SOMEONE BROUGHT THAT UP AND I THOUGHT THAT HAD BEEN IN THERE THAT THERE WAS THEY HAD TO MAKE SURE ALL THE TRASH WAS PICKED UP WITHIN 24 HOURS AND I DIDN'T SEE THAT ANY LONGER AND THE LAST ONE IS SIMILAR TO WHAT WE HAVE FOR LIGHTING AND TRAFFIC AND THINGS LIKE THAT. IS IT POSSIBLE TO HAVE A CONDITION RELATED TO THE NOISE JUST IN CASE ANYTHING FROM THE INDEPENDENT STUDY THAT THE OTHER GROUP BRINGS BACK SOME CONCERNS THAT OUR STAFF CAN TAKE A LOOK AT THOSE AND AND FINALLY SIGN OFF THAT THEY'RE COMFORTABLE THAT IT MEETS THE THE SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DO WITH THE TRAFFIC CONTROL AND THINGS LIKE THAT WHICH IS AN AREA WHERE COUNCIL MEMBERS WITH CHRISTIAN RELATED TO LIGHTING AND OTHER PATHWAYS THAT HAVE MORE PEDESTRIAN ORIENTED LIGHTS IT WASN'T PART OF THE SCOPE OF THIS PROJECT FOR EXAMPLE THE PATHWAY BETWEEN THE STADIUM AREA AND UPON LEARNING CENTER THERE IS A NICE WIDE WALKWAY AND THERE ARE PEDESTRIAN LIGHTS THERE BUT I CAN'T SPEAK IF THOSE ARE GOING TO BE IMPROVED OR CHANGED OR ANYTHING FOR THE FOUR THE FIELD ILLUMINATION, THE WHOLE IDEA OF EARLY TECHNOLOGY AND DIRECTING TO THE FIELD IS THAT THERE'S VERY LITTLE LIGHT THAT GOES TOWARD THE STREET AND FINE WITH THE FIELD LIGHTING. IT WAS THOSE OTHER THINGS BECAUSE THERE WAS CONVERSATION ABOUT CHANGING SOME OF THOSE PATHWAYS, CONNECTING TO THE PARKING LOTS AND THINGS THAT AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE AREAS ARE ARE SAFE FOR EVERYBODY AND I DON'T NEED AN ANSWER SPECIFICALLY TO IT TODAY I JUST THE THING I NEED ANSWERED IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WILL BE LOOKED AT BY STAFF AS PART OF THAT REVIEW OF LIGHTING IT WILL BE LOOKED AND THAT'S ALL I NEED TO KNOW IF STAFF IS TAKING CARE OF IT THAT'S CONDITION WE PUT IN THERE AND THEN TRASH THE SPIRIT COUNCILMEMBERS I CAN'T REALLY SPEAK TO TRASH OPERATIONS YOU KNOW THE SCHOOL DISTRICT'S PROPERTY THE RESPONSIBILITY CLEAN UP AFTER THEIR EVENTS BUT I DON'T I DON'T I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY PARTICULAR PLANS PER SE. OKAY WELL AND I THINK YES IT IS THEIR PROPERTY BUT AS PEOPLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND IF THERE'S TRASH IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND AGAIN THAT'S WHERE I LOOK THE GOOD NEIGHBOR POLICY PERHAPS AND MAKE SURE THAT THAT WORKS BECAUSE IF IF THERE ARE IF THERE'S TRASH OUT THERE BECAUSE YOUR EVENT I WOULD HOPE IT WOULD BE TAKEN CARE OF AND IF IT'S THEY WOULD HOPE THAT THE NEIGHBORS WOULD COME AND BRING THAT FORWARD TO YOU. EXACTLY. SO I GUESS MY QUESTION IS AM I WRONG IN REMEMBERING THAT THAT HAD PREVIOUSLY BEEN A CONDITION COUNCILMEMBER? I DON'T RECALL THAT BEING AT ALL ON OAK IS IT POSSIBLE TO DO THAT AS A CONDITION JUST TO HAVE THAT DON'T SEEM LIKE IT'D BE BURDENSOME TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT THE SPIRIT COUNCILMEMBERS IF YOU'D LIKE TO CONSIDER ADDING CONDITION RELATED TO REFUSE PICKUP I THINK THAT'S IN YOUR WITHIN YOUR REALM OF OPTIONS AND THEN THE LAST ONE WOULD STAFF BE COMFORTABLE JUST REVIEWING POTENTIALLY PROBABLY WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT THE ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ABOUT SOUND AND JUST MAKING SURE THAT SOMETHING DOESN'T COME UP THAT THAT YOU'RE UNCOMFORTABLE WITH AND MR. COUNCILMEMBERS YOU KNOW THERE THERE MAY OR MAY NOT BE FURTHER MODIFICATIONS TO THE STUDY BASED ON ADDITIONAL ANALYSIS. IF THERE IS THEN YOU KNOW WE NEED TO BE PROVIDED WITH THAT INFORMATION AND IF IT'S FOUND THAT THE MODEL SHOWS NONCOMPLIANCE AND WELL THEN WE HAVE TO MAKE AN ADJUSTMENT SOMEWHERE ELSE. SO IT IS BROUGHT BACK INTO COMPLIANCE SO I COUNCILMEMBER NELSON WHY DON'T YOU THINK ABOUT WORDING REGARDING THE TRASH CONDITION AND WE'LL GET THE COUNCILMEMBER REALIZES CONVERSATION DISCUSSION HERE AND THEN WE'LL IF WE DECIDE TO MOVE FORWARD THIS WE'LL HAVE SOMETHING AT LEAST TO WORK OFF OF COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS I DO BELIEVE THAT THE REQUIREMENTS HAVE BEEN MET. HOWEVER I AGREE TO MOST OF WHAT COUNCILMEMBER NELSON MENTIONED. I HAD A VERBAL READING IN MY NOTES. THERE IS ONE THING THOUGH THAT I WOULD LIKE TO BE ADDED AS WELL IS THE PARKING ON THIRD AVENUE. I WALK MY DOGS THERE EVERY SINGLE NIGHT AND WHEN THEIR VEHICLES PARK ON BOTH OF THE ROAD ONE VEHICLE HEADING NORTH HAS TO START FOR THE OTHER ONE TO GO BY TO MAKE IT YOU KNOW AND IS WHEN THE LIGHTS IN THE PARKING BY THE HORN ARE ON IS PRETTY WELL LAID IN THERE AND USUALLY WHEN THERE IS AN EVENT WHICH I WALK THE DOGS REGARDLESS THERE'S NO DANGER TO PEDESTRIANS WALKING TO THEIR VEHICLES IT'S VERY WELL-LIT AS AS A PARKING LOT LATER ON BUT MEAN IF WE CAN ADD THAT AS A CONDITION TO HOW TO IT AVENUE ALLOWING PARKING ONLY ON ONE SIDE OF THE ROAD THAT WOULD BE AWESOME IF CAN DO THAT AS LONG AS MR. ROBERTS I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS CURRENTLY IN CONSIDERATION RIGHT NOW. MR. MAYOR RIVAS BECAUSE THAT THIRD IS A CITY STREET IT DOES NOT NEED TO BE A CONDITION OF APPROVAL. YOU CAN JUST DIRECT STAFF WE'VE HEARD YOU CLEARLY LOUD AND CLEAR. WE WILL WORK ON LOOKING AT THE PARKING THIRD. AWESOME. GOOD. THANK YOU. THAT'S I HOPE THAT'S HELPFUL COUNSEL. I THINK WE WE SEEM TO BE HEADED IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION HERE IN THE SAME DIRECTION HERE. I BELIEVE IF SOMEBODY WOULD TO MAKE A MOTION AND THEN WE COULD CONSIDER AN ADDITIONAL CONDITION. COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN I'D BE HAPPY TO. I THINK SHOULD GET THIS MOTION OUT HERE AND THEN WE WOULD LOOK TO DO AMENDMENTS AFTERWARDS OR DO YOU WANT TO DO THAT? IT LOOKS LIKE THIS MAY BE THE BEST WAY TO DO THIS. MAYOR REMEMBERS STAFF IS GIVEN SOME CONSIDERATION TO THAT AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE MOTION THAT'S BEEN PREPARED IT'S A SUBJECT CONDITIONS ATTACHED IN THE STAFF REPORT I MIGHT MAKE A RECOMMENDATION THAT THE MOTION UNLESS YOU WANT TO VOTE ON EACH CONDITION BUT YOU COULD ALSO ATTACH IT TO THE MOTION TO SAY ADDING AMENDING REMOVING ETC. CONDITION NUMBER AND THEN REFER TO THE ONES IN THE STAFF REPORT. I BELIEVE IT'S ON PAGE NINE AND TEN OF THE STAFF REPORT SO I THINK IT EVEN THIS MORE PERHAPS TO MAKE THE MOTION AND THEN ADDING THE CONDITION THAT COUNCILMEMBER NELSON HAS ELOQUENTLY WRITTEN DOWN THERE AND WE COULD ADD THAT IN JUST IN OR WHATEVER WE WOULD NUMBER IT IN TERMS OF WHAT IT WOULD BE AS CONDITION YOU GOT WHAT WOULD BE THE DO HAVE IT READY YOU'RE READY OKAY SO MAYBE JUST LET'S TRY IT OR I'LL GO AHEAD AND I'M GOING TO START READING THIS AND THEN YOU CAN JUST JUMP IN THERE SO I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE THE FINAL SITE AND BUILDING PLANS FOR STADIUM IMPROVEMENTS AT KENNEDY HIGH SCHOOL SUBJECT TO THE AND WE DON'T WANT TO I DON'T WANT TO I DON'T WANT TO READ IT THAT WAY, DO I? I DO. OKAY. SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS IN CODE REQUIREMENTS TO THE STAFF REPORT AND THEN AND THEN ADDING ADDING 21 CONDITION 21 TRASH MANAGEMENT PLAN TO APPROVED BY STAFF TO SECOND MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER LOWMAN BY COUNCILMEMBER CARTER TO APPROVE THE FINAL SITE AND BUILDING PLANS FOR THE STADIUM IMPROVEMENTS AT KENNEDY HIGH SCHOOL SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS AND CODE REQUIREMENTS ATTACHED ANY FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS HEARING? NONE THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSED MOTION CARRY SEVEN ZERO AND NOW WE HAVE ONE MORE TO DO ACTUALLY I KNOW WE JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE'VE GOT IT ALL OKAY VERY GOOD. MOVING ON TO ITEM 4.3 SO I WILL CALL ITEM 4.3 OUR NEXT PUBLIC HEARING THIS IS REGARDING THE STUDENT STADIUM IMPROVEMENTS AT JEFFERSON HIGH SCHOOL 4001 WEST 102ND STREET. MR. CENTRAL MAIL THANK YOU. WELCOME JOINING THANKS FOR JOINING US THIS EVENING. SO THESE ARE TWO SEPARATE STADIUMS OR SEPARATE APPLICATIONS THAT REQUIRE SEPARATE ACTIONS BUT BEING SAID, WE'LL TRY TO BE SUCCINCT . THIS THING JUST HAS TO GET WARMED UP OR WHAT THE SCOPE IS BUT OKAY SAME DATES APPLY TO TO WHAT YOU JUST TOOK ACTION ON IT STARTED IN SEPTEMBER WENT THROUGH THE PLANNING COMMISSION PROCESS WAS APPEALED AND HAS BEFORE YOU TONIGHT FOR CONSIDERATION WE'VE DISCUSSED THE DISCRETION TRIANGLE I DON'T NEED TO REPEAT WHAT I SAID BUT WE ARE LOOKING AT A FINAL SITE AND BUILDING PLAN SHIFTING GEARS TOWARDS JEFFERSON OF COURSE AGAIN THIS IS THE STADIUM OR THE ATHLETIC ISN'T IS IN EXISTENCE TODAY THERE ARE SOME BLEACHERS ON THE SITE OF COURSE THE PROPOSAL WOULD INCREASE THE CAPACITY SIGNIFICANTLY BUT THE FIELD ITSELF THE TRACK THE PARKING THAT'S EXISTING ON SITE THAT'S ALL PROPOSED TO BE THE SAME SITE PLAN IMAGE YOU CAN SEE THE BLEACHERS WHAT'S DIFFERENT HERE BETWEEN JEFFERSON KENNEDY THE AWAY BLEACHERS WOULD BE ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE FIELD WHEREAS THE WHOLE BLEACHERS ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE FIELD THE TOTAL CAPACITY IS THE SAME IT'S JUST A DIFFERENT ORGANIZATION OF HOME AND AWAY BUT AGAIN CAN SEE THE THE NEW TURF BUT EXISTING LOCATION THE TRACK WOULD REMAIN THE SAME AND YOU SEE THE PARKING THAT IS ON THE JEFFERSON CAMPUS SPECIFICALLY BUT THEN I HAVE A GRAPHIC ON WHAT OTHER PARKING IS AVAILABLE IN THIS SCHOOL CAMPUS. AGAIN, WE WE DO LOOK AT BUILDING HEIGHTS. WE HAVE HEIGHT STANDARDS FOR DIFFERENT LOCATIONS WITHIN THE CITY AND THIS IS JUST A ABOUT A FOOT TALLER BASED ON THE GRADE BUT IT IS STILL IN COMPLIANCE WITH CITY CODE . SO WE HAVE A LOT OF SURFACE PARKING BETWEEN JEFFERSON AND OLSON AND THERE HAVE BEEN A LOT OF COMMENTS ON THE PROXIMITY OF THAT PARKING WITH OLSON AND IT IT ISN'T ON SITE. IT'S YOU KNOW, IT'S A BIT OF A WALK GOOGLE GOOGLE MAPS TELLS ME IT'S A SEVEN OR EIGHT MINUTE WALK SO IT'S NOT IT'S NOT MILES BUT CERTAINLY IT'S FOR FOLKS THAT CAN'T WALK THAT DISTANCE. IT'S NOT GOING TO BE VERY CONVENIENT. THAT SAID, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE CONDITIONS THAT IS UNDER CONSIDERATION IS TRAFFIC PARKING MANAGEMENT PLANS THAT WOULD BE REVIEWED BY CITY ENGINEERING STAFF AND THAT COULD INCLUDE WAYFINDING VOLUNTEERS, A VARIETY OF MECHANISMS TO TRY AND DIRECT LOCALS WHO ARE COMFORTABLE PARKING IN OLSON TO PARK THERE AND WALK ON OVER AND THAT COULD POTENTIALLY REDUCE THE CONGESTION AROUND THE STADIUM ENTRANCE. BUT THAT SAID, YOU KNOW, BETWEEN THE PARKING AT JEFFERSON HIGH SCHOOL AND THEN THE OVERFLOW PARKING IMMEDIATELY WEST OF JOHNSON AS WELL AS THE OLSON SURFACE PARKING THERE AN ABUNDANCE OF SURFACE SURFACE PARKING THAT'S ACCESSIBLE LIKE THIS JUST ANOTHER IMAGE OF OF THE SITE PLAN. YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE ONE OF THE BENEFITS WITH KANSAS CITY BUT THEN ALSO WITH JEFFERSON SPECIFICALLY IT'S KIND OF IN A BOWL TOPOGRAPHICALLY AND YOU KNOW, THEY'RE THERE IT'S NOT VERY ACCESSIBLE FOR FOLKS WITH DISABILITIES. AND SO ONE OF THE ELEMENTS OF THIS PLAN WOULD BE YOU HAVE STEPS BUT THEN YOU ALSO HAVE AN ACCESSIBLE PATH. SO FOLKS WITH DISABILITIES OR DIFFICULT DIFFICULTY WITH WALKING THEY CAN STILL PARTICIPATE IN AS A SPECTATOR SPECTATOR. WE ALSO HAVE SOME STREET ON STREET PARKING WITHIN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD BETWEEN JOHNSON AVENUE BUT THERE'S A LITTLE BIT ON HERITAGE HILLS AND THEN A LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES NORTH OF 102ND STREET THAT THAT WAS SOME CONCERN THAT YOU'VE HEARD . AGAIN, THAT'S GOING TO REQUIRE ONGOING MONITORING AND PLANNING FROM COLLABORATION BETWEEN THE DISTRICT AND CITY STAFF. I WILL NOT REGURGITATE INFORMATION BUT AGAIN GOING TO THE REVISED MODELING AND THERE ARE PROBABLY THE GREATEST IMPACT IS HOME IMMEDIATELY SOUTHWEST OF THE STADIUM AND HERITAGE HILLS AND AND YOU KNOW WE ARE RIGHT UP WE ARE RIGHT AT THAT THRESHOLD FOR THE THE ALL TEN LEVEL STILL SHOWING COMPLIANCE BUT AGAIN WITH WITH MODEL IF SOMETHING CONTINUES TO CHANGE THEN THERE WOULD HAVE TO BE SOME ELSEWHERE WHETHER IT'S THE SPEAKER SYSTEM, THE TYPE THE ANTICIPATED VOLUME THEY'LL HAVE TO ADJUST IT TO BRING IT BACK COMPLIANCE AND AGAIN ONE OF THE THINGS THAT STAFF UNDERSTANDS WE HAVE TO DO TO DO IS TO CHECK ON THIS BEFORE STADIUM IS IN OPERATION TO TRY AND JUST TEST THAT POST INSTALLATION LEVELS. THE 50 LEVEL LOOKS A BIT BETTER STILL. YOU KNOW IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE CITY AND PC STANDARDS SIMILAR SITUATION WITH LIGHTING AGAIN THERE WAS SOME NONCOMPLIANCE LIGHTING THAT WAS INITIALLY ON THE PLANS TOOK A COUPLE OF ITERATIONS TO REMOVE THAT BUT THEY HAVEN'T REMOVED FROM THE PLAN SO THEY ARE IN COMPLIANCE AND THE MODELING THAT'S DONE FOR LIGHTING YOU KNOW WE WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF EXPERIENCE DOING SOUND STUDIES BUT DO HAVE A LOT OF EXPERIENCE DOING LIGHTING INSPECTIONS AND THAT IS ONE AREA WHERE WE'RE VERY COMFORTABLE DOING INSPECTIONS AND THE THE ANTICIPATED LIGHTING LEVELS THAT YOU SEE ON THESE PLANS ARE ACTUALLY ARE VERY ACCURATE. AND SO WE ARE SHOWING OR THE APPLICANT'S TEAM IS SHOWING COMPLIANCE AGAIN THAT PROPERTY TO THE SOUTHWEST IS PROBABLY THE MOST IMPACTED FROM A LIGHTING PERSPECTIVE AND IT'S SHOWING UP TO EIGHT FOOT CANDLES AT THE PROPERTY LINE WHICH IS THE ALLOWANCES INTO THE CODE AND PERHAPS I WAS TOO QUICK BUT WE ARE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE JEFFERSON FINAL SITE AND BUILDING PLANS FOR THE ATHLETIC FACILITY. THANK YOU MR. CENTENARIO AND QUESTIONS FOR MR. CENTENARIO SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO THE JEFFERSON PROPOSAL. ALL RIGHT VERY GOOD. THE FOLLOWING THE SAME PATTERN AS LAST TIME I TURN NOW TO THE APPLICANT IF YOU TO HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY ON THE JEFFERSON PROPOSAL AND THEN WE WILL TURN TO THE APPELLANT THANK YOU MAYOR CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS AGAIN I'LL BE BRIEF AS WELL THE SAME STORY THIS PROJECT WAS HAS BEEN GONE THROUGH DESIGN IN THE SAME FOOT PATH AS KENNEDY. SO THIS HAS BEEN A COUPLE OF YEARS IN THE MAKING. AGAIN THREE STICKING POINTS THE PARKING, THE LIGHTING AND THE SOUND ALL HAVE BEEN REVIEWED ADJUSTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY MEET ALL THE CITY CODES AND MVC STANDARDS AND STATE STANDARDS. SO IN THE DISTRICT ALSO WENT THROUGH THE SAME COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PROCESS HERE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOODS TO GATHER ANY ADDITIONAL FEEDBACK AND TO BE A GOOD STEWARD. SO AGAIN JUST ASKING THAT YOU PLEASE KEEP MIND THE FACTS THAT THIS SITE DOES ALSO MEET ALL REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE SET FORTH. I'LL BE BRIEF AS WELL BECAUSE I WOULD GIVE PRETTY MUCH THE TALKING POINTS THA I GAVE FOR THE KENNEDY STADIUM OUR DESERVE GREAT FACILITIES. I THINK IT WILL BENEFIT THE DISTRICT IN WAYS THAT I PROBABLY CAN'T EVEN EXPLAIN YET BUT I DO BELIEVE TO BE THE CASE ALL BLOOMINGTON LINCOLN STADIUM IS IT IT'S BEEN A GOOD RUN BUT WE NEED TO UPGRADE AND HAVING THOSE ONSITE FACILITIES ARE BOTH HIGH SCHOOLS BUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT JEFFERSON NOW WE'LL MAKE IT EASIER FOR STUDENTS AT JEFFERSON JUST LIKE KENNEDY TO ATTEND EVENTS AND KEEPING IN MIND THAT WE WE DO HAVE THE CURRENT FACILITIES OVER IN JEFFERSON LIKE WE DO AT KENNEDY AND HAVE SOME EVENTS GOING ON THERE ALREADY AND I FEEL LIKE WE'VE WE'VE DONE A GOOD JOB MANAGING THAT. SO I WOULD ASK THE CITY COUNCIL TO HOPEFULLY NOTE THOSE FOUR BOXES AGAIN ON JEFFERSON AND I'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS JEFFERSON RELATED IF THERE ARE ANY. THANK YOU DR. MELODY. LOTS OF QUESTIONS FOR DR. M.B. OR MR. DAHLQUIST. VERY GOOD. DON'T GO FAR. THANK YOU. I'M READY TO ORDER. IS THERE A PALLET STILL HERE? I CAN'T SEE. OH, THERE YOU ARE. YES. OKAY . CAN WE GET THAT THING AGAIN? ABSOLUTELY WE CAN GRANT IF WE COULD HAVE THE OVERHEAD PLEASE . THANK YOU. AND IF YOU JUST CENTER RIGHT ON THE LOGO THERE LOOK LOOK ON THE DESK IN FRONT OF YOU, OKAY . YEAH THAT'S RIGHT. YEAH. I WAS GOING TO ADD ONE TO THE RIGHT SIDE BUT OKAY. THANK YOU I'M LINDSEY FREE PALMQUIST AGAIN JUST FOR THE RECORD AND OKAY THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS I WANTED TO FOLLOW UP ON UNFORTUNATELY. I WAS UNABLE TO RESPOND TO THINGS AS THEY HAPPENED WITH THE KENNEDY ONE. SO THEN THEY COME UP WITH THE BLOOMINGTON ONE AND THEN I CAN ADDRESS THEM BECAUSE I SPEAK AGAIN. SO A COUPLE OF THINGS I WANTED TO SAY. MR. CENTENARIO SAID THERE MAY OR MAY NOT BE ADDITIONAL MODIFICATIONS TO THE SOUND STUDY AND THAT THEY WOULD TEST BEFORE THE STADIUM IS IN OPERATION. SO I WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN AS WELL WITH THE MODIFICATIONS TO THE SOUND STUDY ANALYSIS MR. LOVERDE SAID THERE IS A PLUS OR MINUS ONE OF THE WAY THAT COULD POSSIBLY BE ALTERED BUT I WOULD LIKE TO NOTE THAT ON THE KENNEDY WHEN IT WAS FIVE BETWEEN THE LAST STUDY IN THE STUDY SO THAT'S PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL AND THAT IS DISCERNIBLE TO THE HUMAN EAR. WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH AN IT CONSULTANT WHO IS AN ACOUSTICIAN AND SOUND ENGINEER WITH OVER 40 YEARS WHO WENT TO MIT. I CAN LIST ALL THAT STUFF OFF TOO. HE'S NOT HERE TONIGHT BECAUSE I HAVE TO PAY HIM AND SO IT'S EXPENSIVE AND WE WANTED TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THE INFORMATION. I WISH HE COULD HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH THE OTHER SOUND ENGINEER. THERE ARE STILL ONGOING UNANSWERED QUESTIONS. A COUPLE OF THINGS I ALSO WANT TO REMIND ON WE'RE HERE ABOUT APPEAL IS TO SUFFICIENT INFORMATION WAS PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT TO COMPLIANCE WITH CITY CODE IN THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING THAT WE ARE APPEALING POINTS THREE AND FOUR IN THAT WE HAVE TALKED QUITE A BIT ABOUT DOES IT MEET COMPLIANCE IS NOT INJURIOUS AND THEN WE HAVE THIS POINT FIVE WHICH I HAVE A LOT OF PAPER HERE POINT FIVE WHICH SAYS THAT THE ENTITY EMPOWERED TO TAKE ACTION ON A GIVEN FINAL SITE AND BUILDING PLAN APPLICATION THE AUTHORITY TO ATTACH CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL TO THAT APPLICATION. WE HAVE HEARD ONE OF THOSE FOR TRASH FROM COUNCILMEMBER NELSON I JUST WANT TO REMIND YOU THAT AS THE AUTHORITY THERE IS SOME AS FAR AS THIS AS MY UNDERSTANDING OF THIS GOES, THERE IS SOME ABILITY ATTACH CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL TO THAT APPLICATION. COUNCILMEMBER YOU STATED THAT IT'S ABOUT POINT 5% OF THE TIME THAT THIS WOULD BE HAPPENING AND IF THAT'S IT AWESOME BUT WITHOUT ANY USAGE OR CONDITION TO THAT THAT DOESN'T ACCOUNT FOR DAILY PRACTICES THE LOUDSPEAKERS BEING USED THAT DOESN'T ACCOUNT FOR RENTAL USAGE ON WEEKENDS AND THINGS. SO I JUST WANT TO STATE THAT IF THAT KIND OF CODIFIES THAT THEY'RE ONLY GOING TO USE IT THAT AMOUNT OF THE TIME BECAUSE IT'S ON THE RECORD HERE. GREAT. AWESOME. AGAIN NO ACTUALLY WE SHOULD ASK DOES THAT MEAN THAT IT'S ONLY GOING TO BE USED THAT AMOUNT OF TIME YOU LEFT US WITH THAT IMPRESSION THAT THAT'S WHAT IT WOULD BE BECAUSE I HEARD WAS BACK OF NAPKIN. YEAH NO I THINK THAT'S WHAT I HEARD. I WAS WONDERING IF THAT'S A CONDITION IT CAN BECOME MISLEADING THOUGH IN LARGER DECISIONS IF YOU DON'T ACTUALLY SAY THAT IF EVERYTHING WAS IN IF ALL OF THE STATE SCHOOL TEAMS HAD PLAYOFFS IT WOULD BE UP TO 40 WHICH IS LIKE FOUR TIMES A WEEK IN THE SEASONS WHERE THERE'S YOU KNOW GOOD OUTSIDE SPRING AND FALL NOBODY IS EXPECTING IT IN THE WINTER TIME AND GOING BACK TO JUST KIND OF THE COMPLIANCE SIDE OF POINTS THREE AND FOUR ABOUT DID IT MEET COMPLIANCE IS IT INJURIOUS THE HISTORY OF THESE THREE STUDIES THAT THE LATEST ONE WE ONLY RECEIVED TODAY AND DID NOT HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR SOUND ENGINEER TO CONDUCT A FULL REVIEW BECAUSE WE ONLY RECEIVED TODAY THERE'S TWO POINTS ON THAT THAT I DON'T THINK MEET THE CRITERIA THAT THIS WAS SUFFICIENT INFORMATION PROVIDED ONE BEING GOT TO BE SWEEPER ONE BEING THIS PARAGRAPH THAT WAS ATTACHED TO THE INFORMATION THAT WE RECEIVED TODAY THAT SAYS AS PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED WE HAD UPDATED OUR ACOUSTIC MODEL BASED ON REVISED INFORMATION AND HAD BEEN TO PROCEED AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING WITH WHAT WAS PRESENTED IN THE REPORT. UNDERSTAND THAT GIVEN WE ARE PRESENTING MODEL INPUTS THIS REPRESENTS THE LATEST VERSION WHEN I READ THAT PARAGRAPH THAT TELLS ME THAT THEY HAVE THIS NEW STUDY INFORMATION WITH FIVE WHICH IS THE THRESHOLD LIMIT BEFORE JUNE 6TH WHEN WE HAD THIS PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING WHICH DID NOT ALLOW ME NOR MY SOUND ENGINEER TO HAVE THAT INFORMATION TO CONTEST IT IN THAT WAY LOOKING AT IT AS IT'S ALREADY AT THE THRESHOLD WE WERE NOT GIVEN INFORMATION WE WERE NOT GIVEN THAT INFORMATION UNTIL THIS MORNING. AND SO IN MY OPINION THAT DOES NOT MEAN THAT SUFFICIENT INFORMATION WAS PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT WHEN THAT CLEARLY STATES THAT SOMEONE HAD THAT PRIOR TO THAT JUNE 6TH MEETING I DON'T KNOW HOW SOON PRIOR BUT IT WAS PRIOR TO THE OTHER THE OTHER ONE ONE ON THE OTHER ONE IS THERE THE VENUE CLASS AND STUDIES ON DISCLAIMER THAT THE INFORMATION PROVIDED HIGHLY VARIABLE SO WE TALKED AGAIN ABOUT THIS PLUS OR MINUS ONE DECIBEL THAT PLUS OR MINUS ONE DECIBEL MAY BE DISCERNIBLE TO YOUR EAR BUT THAT IS OVER COMPLIANCE IF IT IS PLUS DOES FOR THAT 66 AND STATE LIMITS ARE PROVIDED PROTECT THE PUBLIC AND THAT'S WHY THEY SET THAT STATE LIMIT BECAUSE IT'S 66 IS OVER 65 SO I JUST WANT TO STATE THAT IT'S LIKE EVERYBODY IS SAYING IT AS IN OH IT'S ONLY ONE DECIBEL THAT THAT IS A BIG DEAL IN THIS CASE WHEN IT IS 65 AT THE ALTAR. OKAY THEN I HAVE CONFIDENCE THE LIST OF QUESTIONS THAT OUR SOUND ENGINEER HAD BASED ON THIS BRAND NEW INFORMATION TODAY SOMEWHERE WHICH IS SORRY DOING MY BEST THOUGHT I TOLD MYSELF A LOT WITH THIS. OKAY. OH GOSH . OH I THINK IT'S OKAY. THE CONTOURS ON MAP ARE SLIGHTLY FARTHER NORTH THAN THE CONTOURS ON THE PREVIOUS MAP. NOT SURE WHY THAT IS. WE DON'T KNOW THE SOURCES OF THE SOUND AND MR. LOVERDE IF YOU'RE ON I'M HAPPY TO HAVE YOU ANSWER THESE. I WISH WE COULD ACTUALLY HAVE A DISCUSSION INSTEAD OF JUST AN ANSWER BUT THIS IS AS MUCH I'VE EVER BEEN ABLE TO GET FROM THEM SO I'LL TAKE IT. SO WE DON'T KNOW THE SOUND SOURCES FOR THE POWER LEVELS THAT THEY USE IN THE DATA SET WHICH I UNDERSTAND IS WITHIN MY RIGHT TO ASK FOR SO WE'RE UNABLE TO UNDERSTAND HOW THEY'VE GOTTEN A THIRD SET OF RESULTS ON THESE NUMBERS BECAUSE DON'T HAVE ALL OF THAT INFORMATION. I UNDERSTAND HE WAS PROVIDING THE INFORMATION HE THOUGHT AS A LAYPERSON COULD UNDERSTAND BUT I ACTUALLY HAVE A SOUND ENGINEER SPEAK THE SAME LANGUAGE SO I WOULD ACTUALLY LIKE ALL OF THE DATA BUT SO THE SOUND POWER LEVEL THAT OUR SOUND ENGINEER ESTIMATES TO HAVE AN INCREASE OF FIVE DECIBELS AS IT WAS ON THE KENNEDY THAT MEANS THAT WAS A DIFFERENT SOUND POWER LEVEL THAT WAS USED TO CALCULATE THE DATA SO I JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND WHY IS THERE A DIFFERENT SOUND POWER LEVEL USED ON THIS OCCASION THAT GOT A DIFFERENT RESULT? I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO BETTER UNDERSTAND WHY THE SOUND LEVEL USE WAS BASED ON A STUDY FROM CALIFORNIA WHERE THEY USED 1800 PEOPLE NOT 2500. THAT'S IN THEIR CALCULATION METHODOLOGY LETTER ONE THAT THEY HAVE THE FILE CALLED AND IT WAS 1800 PEOPLE FOR FOOTBALL. I UNDERSTAND IT. KENNEDY SOCCER IS MUCH ATTENDANCE AND THEN IT WAS CALCULATED AT DISTANCES HUNDRED TO 450 FEET AWAY FROM THE STADIUMS AND THEN AVERAGES WERE WELL IF THAT'S THE CASE, THIS HOUSE HERE IS THREE AROUND 300 320 FEET AWAY AGAIN ,DON'T HAVE A TAPE MEASURE SO WHY ARE YOU USING AN AVERAGE TO HELP CALCULATE YOUR SOUND POWER LEVEL? THAT'S BETWEEN 300 AND 450 FEET. IF YOU'RE AVERAGING THAT THAT'S MUCH GREATER DISTANCE THAN JUST THE HOUSE THAT'S 320 FEET AWAY. SO THESE ARE TYPES OF QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE ABOUT THIS THAT I'VE JUST ALWAYS ASKED FOR INFORMATION AND I WANT TO UNDERSTAND AND HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO GET THAT INFORMATION OR GIVEN THAT INFORMATION LATE AS IN THIS AFTERNOON OR I'M GIVEN NO HELP THAT THAT INFORMATION EVEN EXISTS SO TO MY AGAIN SAID I DON'T BELIEVE SUFFICIENT INFORMATION HAS BEEN PROVIDED IN THIS CASE TO DETERMINE THIS MEETS CRITERIA. I BELIEVE THAT INFORMATION WAS WITHHELD OLD AND I DON'T FEEL CONFIDENT THAT THIS MEETS COMPLIANCE BECAUSE OF ALL OF THE ISSUES THAT EXIST THAT I'VE DESCRIBED AND MORE. IT'S ALSO NOT WHETHER THE STADIUM IS A GOOD IDEA. IT'S A GREAT IDEA. I JUST THINK IT NEEDS BE DONE IN A WAY THAT IS NOT INJURIOUS OR IS NOT OUT OF COMPLIANCE AGAIN TRYING TO MEMORIALIZE OR HELP RETAIN THIS IN THE FUTURE SO THAT THE FUTURE GENERATIONS OF HOMEOWNERS IN THE AREA DON'T HAVE TO CONTEND WITH A NEW OWNER THAT MAY ABUSE THE RIGHT OF OF PAVING OVER FOR MORE PARKING OR USING THIS FULL TIME FOR EVENTS AT NIGHT AND HERE'S A QUICK EXAMPLE OF WHAT WE GOT TODAY WHICH IS NOT EVEN THIS IS THE DATA THAT WE GOT TODAY THAT'S IT. SO WHEN WE ASKED FOR ALL THE DATA THE DATA WAS STILL WITHHELD. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME YEAH ANYWAY FOR CONDITIONAL USE ON THESE AS WELL SOMETHING TO REGULATE HOW IT'S USED HOW OFTEN IT'S USED WHEN IT'S USED JUST LIKE WE DID FOR KENNEDY SITE SO THAT YOU CAN ATTACH CONDITIONS TO IT YOU HAVE RIGHT TO DO THAT TO PROTECT THE PEOPLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD NOT TRYING TO STOP THE STADIUM, TRYING TO PRESERVE THE PEACE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE SCHOOL AND THE RESIDENTS COUNSELING AND QUESTIONS FROM IS BABCOCK OR MISS FRYE PALMQUIST COUNCILMEMBER CARTER THANK YOU MAYOR OKAY SO WE HAVE A CONDITION OF APPROVAL. THIS IS IT HAS TO MEET THE NOISE RIGHT? LIKE IT'S NOISE GENERATION NOR NOISE GENERATION MUST CITY NOISE CODE STANDARDS WHICH ARE THE SAME AS THE STATE WE CAN'T HAVE STANDARDS SO I GUESS I'M I DON'T UNDERSTAND I GUESS I'M NOT TOTALLY UNDERSTANDING WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR BECAUSE WE HAVE A NOISE STUDY THAT SAYS AT AT MAXIMUM USAGE IT'S RIGHT AT THE THRESHOLD LIKE WE I THINK WE ALL WE ALL SEE THAT AND THAT'LL HAPPEN LIKE A HANDFUL OF TIMES A YEAR THERE WILL BE PRACTICES I WOULD BE SHOCKED IF THEY WERE AS LOUD A FULL ON FOOTBALL GAME BUT LIKE ENGLISH SPEAKERS THEY STILL HAVE COMPLY WITH THE NOISE CORRECT CODE . SO WHAT ADDITIONAL CONDITION RELATED TO NOISE DO YOU WANT IT WOULD BE I GUESS USAGE CONDITION OR REGULATION OF RENTAL SO THAT IT IS NOT MORE FREQUENT THAN WHAT WE'RE WANT THE CITY COUNCIL TO SAY YOU CAN ONLY HAVE FOOTBALL LIKE TEN TIMES A YEAR. NO I WOULDN'T WANT THEM TO REGULATE THE USE OF THE LOUDSPEAKER IF THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE SAYING IS THE GREATEST FOR SCHOOL USE ONLY BUT WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO IS WE ARE REGULATING THE USE OF THE LOUDSPEAKER THROUGH NOISE ORDINANCE. WE'RE SAYING YOU CAN GO AND DO IT EVEN THOUGH WE'RE NOT SURE OF THE COMPLIANCE. BUT WHAT I HEARD STAFF SAY IS THEY WILL BE WORKING AS AS THIS CONTINUES MOVE FORWARD AND FINAL SITE LIKE FINAL PLANS ARE DEVELOPED THAT WILL BE TESTING THE SYSTEMS AND THEY WILL MAKE SURE THAT IT'S IN COMPLIANCE WHAT ABOUT THE ETHICAL CONSIDERATIONS OF NOT PROVIDING ENOUGH INFORMATION FOR US TO DO AN OUTSIDE OBJECTIVE STUDY WITH SOMEONE WHO HASN'T SUBMITTED MULTIPLE THAT ARE DIFFERENT YOU KNOW I THINK THAT YOU BRING UP A GOOD ISSUE THERE I DON'T KNOW WHAT ALL HAS HAPPENED AND SO I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK TO THAT. I LIKE THAT'S PROBABLY A CONVERSATION THAT COULD HAPPEN OFFLINE. I AM CHOOSING TO BELIEVE THAT THIS SOUND STUDY IS ACCURATE. WE ALSO THINK THERE'S A PIECE MISSING OF THE REGIONAL USE ISSUE OF NOT HAVING THINGS OUTSIDE THE SCHOOL DISTRICT OR OUTSIDE OF THE REGION BEING USED AT THESE PROPERTIES AND KNOW THERE WASN'T ANYTHING FOUND EARLY ON THE PLANNING DIVISION TO THINK THERE WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS THERE. IN FACT MORE THAN ONE SENIOR PLANNING OFFICER REALLY THOUGHT THERE WAS SOMETHING THERE RESTRICTING THE USE 2/10 LINES. YES. TO TWO YEAH. TWO PEOPLE THAT WEREN'T AFFILIATED WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. WE JUST DON'T WANT THIS TO BE RENTED OUT AT NIGHT USING SPEAKERS EVERY NIGHT WHEN THERE'S NOT A SCHOOL EVENT THERE. COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN, YOU HAVE A QUESTION? I THINK I THINK I'VE GOT THE NOISE COMPONENT OF IT, BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE CRYSTAL CLEAR BECAUSE I WASN'T CLEAR ABOUT THE NOISE PIECE. SO I TO THANK COUNCILMEMBER CARTER FOR HELPING ME CLARIFY THAT PART OF IT. BUT IN TERMS OF THE REGIONAL SO YOU'RE LOOKING FOR A CONDITION AROUND REGIONAL USE. MY UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT YOU'RE ASKING IS FOR THIS COUNCIL TO RESTRICT THAT USE ONLY TO SCHOOL SANCTIONED ITEMS. HELP ME UNDERSTAND SCHOOL SANCTIONED ITEMS WILL BE FINE. IT'S A SCHOOL STADIUM. IT SHOULD BE USED FOR THE SCHOOLS. IT SHOULDN'T BE RENTED OUT AT NIGHT. IT CAN BE RENTED OUT DURING THE DAY. THEY DO THAT ALL THE TIME. PEOPLE LOVE THAT BUT AT NIGHTTIME IF THEY'RE GOING TO RENT IT OUT TO LARGE CROWDS THAT COME IN AND IT'S NOT A SCHOOL USE I THINK THAT MISUSES THE PROPERTY AS IT WAS ORIGINALLY INTENDED FOR A YEAH AND THEN IS THERE ANY OTHER CONDITIONS THAT YOU'RE ASKING US TO TO PUT FORWARD? THE CONDITIONS WITH THE TRASH WOULD BE THE SAME. THE CONDITIONS WITH KEEPING THE SOUND WOULD BE THE SAME AND CONTINUING TO WORK WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS DEFINITELY A BENEFIT OF HAVING DR. MELBY HERE WITH US WORKING WORKING WITH US SO A CONDITION OF WORKING WITH CONTINUING WRITING. YES. YES. THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IN WRITING IS WHO USES IT AT NIGHT AND HOW OFTEN THAT'S USED AND THE PUT ANY OF THOSE PIECES IN WRITING ARE HELPFUL IF SCHOOL CHANGES AS WAS DISCUSSED WITH THE LAST ONE OR IF DR. MELODY IS NO LONGER THE SUPERINTENDENT I FEEL LIKE ANY CONDITION ATTACHED TO THAT WOULD PROVIDE A PROTECTION. WE JUST WANT TO MEMORIALIZE RESPECTFULNESS THAT DR. MELBY IS PUTTING INTO IT FOR THE FUTURE WHEN HE'S LONGER WORKING HERE. I GUESS MY ISSUE WITH THAT IS NOT CLEAR. I KNOW WHO THE ENTITY IS IN TERMS OF THE SCHOOL BUT KNOW THIS OTHER ENTITY THAT THE CONDITION BE MADE WITH. SO THAT'S THAT'S WHERE IS MADE WITH THE CITY COUNCIL OR YOU CAN MAKE A NEIGHBORHOOD COMMISSION TO WORK TO WORK WITH THEM. I THOUGHT THE CITY MADE IT WITH THE SCHOOL BUT WE WOULD BE VERY HAPPY IF YOU MADE A NEIGHBORHOOD COMMISSION TO OVERSEE SOME KIND OF NEIGHBORHOOD RELATIONS WITH THE DISTRICT COUNCILMEMBER CUTTER THANK YOU, MAYOR. SO WAS GOING TO GO BACK TO THE REGIONAL USE THING TOO. I MEAN WHAT I RECALL MR. CINCINNATI'S SAYING IS THAT WE DON'T HAVE A LIKE A DEFINITION LIKE THERE'S NOT A DEFINITION FOR REGIONAL IN IN OUR PLANNING LIKE OUR CODE . SO YOU SAID SCHOOL USE IS AND I IMMEDIATELY THOUGHT ABOUT WELL WHAT ABOUT VHA? WHAT ABOUT ALL THE ATHLETIC ASSOCIATIONS LIKE YOU KNOW, I JUST FEEL LIKE EXACTLY IT COULD BALLOON OUT OF CONTROL. IT COULD BE EVERY NIGHT. THEY'RE BLOOMINGTON BASED NONPROFITS THAT ARE WORKING PARTNERSHIP WITH THE SCHOOLS. AND SO I GUESS THAT'S WHERE IT GETS A LITTLE BIT COMPLICATED BECAUSE I KNOW LIKE I KNOW THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF ATHLETIC ASSOCIATIONS USE THE ACTIVITY CENTER AND SO I'M GUESSING THAT WHEN THERE'S A LOT OF PARKING ISSUES AND IT MIGHT ACTUALLY BE BLOOMINGTON ORGANIZATIONS NOT ALL THESE I MEAN LIKE SOMETIMES IT IS PEOPLE COMING FROM OUTSIDE THE CITY AND I GUESS I GUESS WHERE I'M STRUGGLING IS LIKE I WOULDN'T FEEL COMFORTABLE SOMETHING IN AS A CONDITION WHERE WE DON'T ACTUALLY KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS IT'S LIKE WELL YOU'RE PROTECTING IT FOR THE COMMUNITY YOU'RE ALREADY PUTTING REGIONAL THINGS THERE NOW BUT IT IT JUST WHERE DOES IT STOP? WELL, THE LIGHTS AND NOISE ARE NEW RIGHT SO LIGHTS AND NOISE AND NIGHT EVENTS ARE NEW. SO YOU DO HAVE THE POWER I THINK IN THIS SCENARIO WHERE IT'S SOMETHING NEW THAT THEY COULD STILL PLAY DURING THE DAY I DON'T FACILITY THE SIZE AS LONG AS THERE WAS ENOUGH PARKING. LET'S TRY TO STICK TO QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS AS OPPOSED TO THE BACK AND FORTH IF WE COULD JUST TO MAINTAIN THE PUBLIC HERE. COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS AND COUNCILMEMBER D'ALESSANDRO COUNCILMEMBER I THINK WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY IS I LIVE REALLY CLOSE. KENNEDY AND MY EXPERIENCE ON THE WEEKENDS WHEN THEY EVENTS IN THERE IS NOT VERY POSITIVE WHEN DRIVING ALONG 98 WHERE ALL THE TRAGEDY IS CRAZY IT'S WE'RE LUCKY THAT WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF ACCIDENTS THAT AREA AND I KEEP SAYING THAT CONSTANTLY I BRING IT UP ALL THE TIME NOT JUST OF THIS BUT FOR OTHER REASONS. IT'S VERY CONTROVERSIAL FOR THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THE AREA. SO IT'S VERY DIFFICULT FOR ALL OF THAT DON'T LIVE IN THAT AREA THERE TO SPECIFICALLY UNDERSTAND WELL WHAT HAPPENS IN THAT AREA WHERE ALL THE NEIGHBORS LIVE IN SOUTH OF 98TH ON THIRD AVENUE AND THIRD AVENUE AND CLOSER TO LYNDALE IT'S VERY DIFFICULT FOR THEM ON THE WEEKENDS BECAUSE OF ALL THE ACTIVITY THAT HAPPENS. I'M NOT AGAINST IT COUNCILMEMBER WE'RE NOT QUITE TO COMMENTARY AND DISCUSSION RIGHT NOW QUESTIONS BACK THERE JUST IF WE HAVE QUESTIONS THERE. THE IDEA IS WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY IS SO WE COULD PUT SOME MITIGATIONS IN PLACE SO THAT IN THE FUTURE THIS COULD HAPPEN AND. THAT'S WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING MYSELF IS THAT THEY'RE AGAINST AND THAT'S WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING AS WELL. COUNCILMEMBER BUT WHAT I LIKE TO DO IS TRY TO MAKE SURE WE WE GET ALL THE QUESTIONS ANSWERED. WE DO A PUBLIC HEARING AND THEN WE HAVE THIS CONVERSATION WHERE THAT TYPE OF OBSERVATION ON YOUR PART IS MORE APPROPRIATE I THINK HOWEVER IF RIGHT NOW IS WHEN THEY'RE HAVING THE QUESTIONS I MEAN WHEN THEY'RE TRYING TO ANSWER QUESTIONS AND ACTUALLY THE ONE THING THAT YOU ASK US NOT TO DO IS GO BACK AND FORTH WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW. SO IN IN WITH THE INTENT TO DO THAT LET'S JUST REFRAIN EVERY ONE OF US FROM DOING BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT'S BEING HAPPENING RIGHT NOW GOING BACK AND FORTH. THAT'S WHAT HAD TO COME IN MYSELF GUESS AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS YOU DID MENTION AND SO WITH THAT SAID I WOULD REFRAIN FROM SAYING ANYTHING ELSE UNDER THE COMMENTARY START THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO QUESTIONS AND OTHER QUESTIONS . COUNCILMEMBER NELSON YEAH, THANK YOU MA'AM. JUST ONE QUICK QUESTION. I KNOW YOU JUST GOT THE NOISE STUDY TODAY. I'M ASSUMING YOU STILL PLAN TO TALK TO YOUR CONSULTANT AND AND YOU'RE STILL LOOKING FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION? I AM LOOKING FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE HIM LOOK AT YES. I JUSTON'T CONFIDENT THAT I WILL GET IT BECAUSE I HAVEN'T EVER SINCE NOVEMBER. OKAY. SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN HOPEFULLY WORK ON. THANK YOU THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. I WILL NOW OPEN THE COUNCIL THE PUBLIC HEARING ON ITEM 4.3. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING STADIUM IMPROVEMENTS AT JEFFERSON HIGH SCHOOL. SAME DRILL AS LAST IF YOU COULD PLEASE. YOU'LL HAVE 5 MINUTES IF YOU COULD SIGN UP WHILE YOU'RE WAITING IN LINE AND SPEAK ONE WAY OR THE OTHER AND AND YOUR COMMENTS SHOULD BE I THINK WE WON'T RUN INTO THE OVERLAP THIS TIME BUT THE COMMENTS SHOULD BE TOWARD THE THE JEFFERSON PROPOSAL. ALL RIGHT, JEFF MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL DR. MELODY, YOU KNOW, MY KIDS WERE IN THE BAND. I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING AGAINST BANDS. I DO HAVE ISSUES WITH THE TRAFFIC AND I'M SORRY THOUGH WE'VE HEARD FROM YOU ONCE JUST TO IDENTIFY YOURSELF JUST SO WE HAVE IT FOR THE REPRESENT. YES. THANK YOU SIR. AND I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF THE CITY COUNCIL WOULD CONSIDER A CONDITION REQUIRING THAT THE SCHOOL EACH TIME THE STADIUM IS IN FULL USE TO PARK 300 CARS ON THE WEST SIDE OF OLSEN THERE NEEDS TO BE A GOAL THEY'VE PARKING LOT I LIVED LOOKING INTO THE PARKING LOT AND WHEN I MOVED INTO THE SCHOOL THEY'VE OFFERED SHUTTLES THEY'VE HAD SIGNS UP BIG TRAILER SIGNS OFFERING THE SHUTTLE SAYING THERE'S PARKING NONE AT OLSEN IT DIDN'T WORK SO I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY'RE PROPOSING GET PEOPLE TO DRIVE OVER TO OLSEN BUT IF THE SCHOOL CANNOT ACHIEVE PARKING THREE OR CARS ON WEST SIDE OF OLSEN AS PROPOSED CAN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT THEN HAVE TO PUT THREE CARS UNDER THE EAST SIDE OF OLSEN AND THEY CAN TAKE OUT SOME PARKING LOTS ON THE WEST SIDE BUT ADD THREE SPOTS CLOSER TO JEFFERSON IF THEY CAN GET PEOPLE TO PARK ON THE WEST SIDE. TO ME I DON'T I DON'T SEE PEOPLE A HALF MILE RIGHT NOW. THIS IS AN EMPTY PROPOSAL BECAUSE THERE'S NO INCENTIVE FOR THE SCHOOL TO FOLLOW THROUGH SHORT TERM OR LONG TERM UNLESS THERE ARE SOME CONDITION THERE, YOU KNOW, THE FIRST YEAR OR TWO YEARS THREE YEARS HAS TO BE LONG TERM IF YOU CAN GET CARS AND PEOPLE TO WALK ACROSS THE PARK OVER THERE AND PEOPLE TO WALK THAT FAR, THERE HAS TO BE SOME CONDITION THERE OF SUCCESS. AND AGAIN, I LIVED OVER 30 SOME YEARS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD I'VE MOVED BUT I WANT TO STAND UP FOR MY NEIGHBORS. I'VE LIVED IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. THE NEXT ISSUE THAT WAS NOT ADDRESSED BY THE ARCHITECT NOR THE CITY ARE THE SIDEWALKS ARE THE SIDEWALKS WIDE ENOUGH FOR 2000 SOME PEOPLE OFF SCHOOL PROPERTY AND I'M ON JOHNSON BAY AND MY FORMER NEIGHBORS IF YOU GO UP JOHNSON NORTH I'M 102ND STREET ARE THE SIDEWALKS THERE SHOULD BE SIX FEET FROM WHAT I CAN FIGURE OUT LOOKING INTO STUFF AND THERE'S SKINNY SIDEWALKS YOU CAN'T BE A TWO WAY TRAFFIC AND TO ME THERE SHOULDN'T BE ANY EVENT OR EVENT PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC TO START WITH WALKING BY HOUSES ESPECIALLY AFTER THE GAME I CAN SEE PEOPLE KIND OF STRAGGLING IN BUT ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU CAN HAVE 2000 PEOPLE LEAVING AND THEY'RE ALL GOING TO HEAD A LOT OF THEM ARE GOING TO PARK NORTH NORTH 102ND BUT TO ME THERE IS NO PLANS PROPOSED AND SOMEHOW THAT HAS TO BE ADDRESSED. THE OTHER THING THAT HAS NOT BEEN ADDRESSED IS RIGHT NOW THE STUDENTS AT BOTH SCHOOLS ARE LEAVING THE LINCOLN STADIUM AND THEY'RE DRIVING BACK AFTER THE GAMES AND THEY'RE AT THEY'RE DRIVING BACK EMPTY SCHOOLS NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN THE STUDENTS ARE GOING TO THE JEFFERSON AND KENNEDY AND THEY'RE GOING TO MAYBE PARK OUT THERE WHEREVER BLOCKS AND BLOCKS AWAY AND ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU HAVE A DANCE. NOW IF YOU HAVE THAT DANCE, HOW IS THE SCHOOL AND THE POLICE AND EVERYTHING GOING TO MONITOR THESE YOUTH AND EVEN EVEN PEOPLE THAT JUST DON'T RESPECT PEOPLE YOU GOING HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE ALL OVER NOT ON SCHOOL PROPERTY TO ME THERE IS AN AWFUL LOT TO BE DESIRED HERE SO I THINK THE PARKING AND THE TRAFFIC HAS TO BE ADDRESSED. IT HASN'T BEEN ADDRESSED IN THE PAST IN EITHER WAY I DO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME BUT I THINK THERE'S I HAVE SEVERAL CONCERNS MOSTLY FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD THERE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MR. BEZOS. GOOD EVENING. WELCOME. HELLO, I'M GABE SEARS. I'M A SENIOR FOOTBALL CAPTAIN JEFFERSON HIGH SCHOOL. I LIVE ABOUT TWO BLOCKS AWAY FROM JEFFERSON SO I AM IN THAT LITTLE ZONE ON THE PICTURES TO I JUST WANT TO SAY WHEN I HEARD THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BUILD THIS STADIUM I WAS I WAS SO EXCITED IT WAS IT WAS REALLY JUST SOMETHING I WAS LOOKING FORWARD TO. I WAS IMAGINING ALL MY FRIENDS COMING OUT BEING ABLE TO MAKE IT TO THE GAME. THINK ABOUT ALL THE BUSINESSES AROUND AND THE FRANCE AND ALL SHOCK THE AREA. THOSE WERE JUST GOING CRAZY AND EVERYTHING WAS JUST GETTING LIVELY AND EXCITING AND AND THEN THEY SAID IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN NOT IT KIND OF KIND CRUSHED IT CRUSHED ME AND MY LITTLE BROTHER HERE HE'S GOING INTO HIS FRESHMAN YEAR I DON'T WANT HIM TO HAVE TO DEAL WITH THAT TOO. I WANT I WANT BLOOMINGTON TO BE ABLE TO GIVE OUR GIVE OUR KIDS A STADIUM AND GIVE US A PLACE TO COME TOGETHER AND BE A COMMUNITY BECAUSE BOONTON IS THE BEST CITY IN STATE AND IF WE CAN'T BRING TWO STADIUMS HERE, I KNOW WHAT WE CAN DO. THANK YOU. HELLO AGAIN LYNN LUNDBERG, GABE AND YOUR LITTLE BROTHER. YOU'RE GOING HAVE THAT STADIUM, I'M PRETTY SURE. I'M JUST HOPING THAT THOSE STADIUMS WILL COME WITH SOME PROTECTIONS. THE NEIGHBORS AND I STILL AS I MENTIONED EARLIER DO NOT HAVE CONFIDENCE IN THE SOUND STUDIES THAT HAVE BEEN PRESENTED AND ARE SUPPOSED TO ESTIMATE ESTIMATE WITH CITY AND STATE NOISE ORDINANCES. I LOOK FORWARD TO HAVING YOUR SOUND EXPERT WORK WITH OUR SOUND EXPERT TO KIND OF RESOLVE THOSE ISSUES. SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE MITIGATION AND PROTECTION IN PLACE SO SHOULD THESE STUDIES BE PROVEN WRONG AS MISS DALLAS MENTIONED, SHE TALKED ABOUT ONGOING MONITORING ENFORCEMENT AND I THINK THAT'S A KEY WE NEED TO ANSWER QUESTIONS LIKE HOW WILL YOU KNOW IF THE STADIUM IS COMPLYING NOISE ORDINANCES? HOW WILL YOU KNOW WILL YOU ENSURE THAT THE NOISE IS MEASURED ON A REGULAR BASIS? HOW ARE WE GOING TO DO THAT AND IF IT'S OUT OF COMPLIANCE, WHAT'S THE PLAN THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WELL MAYOR CITY COUNCIL PAT UP HERE TO TALK ABOUT PARKING AGAIN I KIND OF LIKE WHAT I HEARD AT KENNEDY YOU'VE GOT THE ABILITY AS A COUNCIL TO FORCE THE SCHOOL DISTRICT TO BUILD PARKING IF IT'S A PROBLEM YOU'VE ALSO ABOUT WHAT TO DO ON A STREET. WELL NOW WHEN YOU GET TO OLSON ,IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT PROBLEM RIGHT? WE'VE GOT ENOUGH PARKING AT LEAST MEETS CODE . BUT ARE YOU GOING TO BE ABLE TO COMPEL PEOPLE TO PARK IN OLSON PARKING LOT AND WALK OVER TO THE KENNEDY GAME? I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR I DON'T HAVE THE ANSWERS BUT I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR SOME SORT OF PLAN THAT EXPLAINS WHAT IS GOING TO BE DONE, WHAT CAN DO TO COMPEL PEOPLE TO TO DO THAT. WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ON ON JOHNSON AVENUE IS ALSO ANOTHER QUESTION BECAUSE ALL THOSE PEOPLE HAVE TO CROSS JOHNSON AVENUE. IT'S GOING TO BE KIND OF A DANGEROUS BUT IT'S A BUSY CROWD. SO GOOD LUCK. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. HELLO. MY NAME IS BEATRICE RUBEL AND I AM AN INCOMING SENIOR AND CAPTAIN OF THE LACROSSE TEAM AT JEFFERSON HIGH. I STRONGLY BELIEVE THAT THE IMPROVEMENT AND CONSTRUCTION OF STADIUM WOULD GREATLY BENEFIT JEFFERSON AND OUR COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE. FIRSTLY I BELIEVE THAT OUR STADIUM IS IN NEED OF IMPROVEMENT DUE ITS CURRENT CONDITION. I HAVE HEARD FROM MANY TEAMMATES PLAYERS AND OPPOSING ABOUT HOW OUR CURRENT STADIUM IS NOT UP TO PAR ESPECIALLY COMPARED TO OTHER STADIUMS WE VISIT THE BELOW PAR CONDITION OF OUR CURRENT FIELD TAKES AWAY FROM SCHOOL PRIDE, ATTENDANCE AND CONFIDENCE OF STUDENTS AND OUR SAFETY OF THE FIELD. I TRULY BELIEVE THAT BY CONSTRUCTING A STADIUM THIS WILL, AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, BRING A SENSE OF PRIDE AND COMMUNITY TO JEFFERSON SPECIFICALLY BY BRINGING IN NEW FANS AND ATTENDEES WITH A MORE ACCESSIBLE LOCATION. I ALSO BELIEVE THIS WILL HELP PROMOTE CONFIDENCE IN OUR FIELD WITH AN UP TO DATE TURF THAT ALLOWS FOR NEW VIEWING AND BETTER PLAYING OPPORTUNITIES. I BELIEVE THAT THIS PROJECT AS A WHOLE WILL GREATLY BENEFIT OUR CURRENT AND FUTURE ATHLETIC PROGRAMS AS WELL AS THE COMMUNITY THAT DERIVES FROM THEM. THANK YOU. THANK YOU . HELLO MY NAME IS MOLLY DOYLE AND I AM A MOM OF TWO BOYS AND JEFFERSON DISTRICT AND I'M ALSO ON THE JEFFERSON ATHLETIC FOUNDATION BOARD WITH MY COLLEAGUE TANYA. I'M TELLING YOU SAW THAT I AM PRESIDENT THE JEFFERSON ATHLETIC FOUNDATION. I HAVE THREE SONS. MY I HAVE MY MIDDLE SON JUST GRADUATED FROM JEFFERSON HIGH SCHOOL. MY YOUNGEST WILL BE A JUNIOR AND I AM A SOCCER MOM AND A TRACK AND FIELD MOM SO I HAVE A LOT OF EXPERIENCE ON THE CURRENT TURF AT JEFFERSON AS WELL AS ATTENDING EVENTS AT THE THE LINCOLN FIELDS AND WE REPRESENT 24 DIFFERENT BOOSTER CLUBS THAT ARE PART OF OUR ASSOCIATION SO I FIRST WANTED TO JUST OFFER IF THERE'S EVER A TIME WHEN A LISTENING SESSION IS NEEDED WE'D LOVE TO OFFER UP OUR COMMUNITY OF VERY BOOSTER FAMILIES. I'M JUST REALLY RELIEVED A CITIZEN TO WATCH THIS PROCESS UNFOLD AND REASSURED TO HEAR THE REALLY KEEN LISTENING THAT YOU'VE BROUGHT TO THE QUESTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT UP AND THE CHALLENGES THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT FORTH. AND I'M LEFT WITH A LOT OF CONFIDENCE THAT PEOPLE HAVE BEEN HEARD AND THAT THE REQUIREMENTS THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS WILL ABSOLUTELY BE MET AND BEYOND THAT AVENUES OF COMMUNICATION ARE GOING TO BE OPENED. AND I JUST REALLY I'M EXCITED ABOUT THAT AND MORE THAN THAT I'M EXCITED ABOUT HAVING A NEW THE OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE OUR COMMUNITY AND REALLY EXPAND THE SENSE OF COMMUNITY AND THE SENSE OF PRIDE IT'S JUST IT'S BEEN STATED SO WELL BY THESE AMAZING ATHLETES AND. WE'RE JUST REALLY GRATEFUL FOR THE HARD WORK THAT YOU'VE BEEN BRINGING TO THIS PROCESS. THANK YOU AND I WOULD LIKE TO ADD JEFFERSON IN PARTICULAR THERE'S A AT THE CURRENT TURF WHEN YOU GO TO SOCCER GAMES AND TRACK I CAN'T BRING MY PARENTS TO WATCH MY BOYS COMPETE BECAUSE THERE'S TERRIBLE ACCESS. THEY CAN'T WALK DOWN TO THE STADIUM. THEY CAN'T ACCESS THE BLEACHERS AT JEFFERSON SCHOOL RIGHT NOW AND THAT'S NOT OKAY. WE GO TO ALL THESE SCHOOLS AROUND THE METRO AREA AND SEE THESE BEAUTIFUL FACILITIES AT THE HIGH SCHOOL IN NEIGHBORHOODS AND THERE'S SUCH A SENSE OF THERE AND FOR FOR THE KIDS TO BE ABLE TO FINISH SCHOOL, GO TO THE LOCKER ROOM, GO TO THEIR SOCCER GAME ON OUR TURF AND HAVE THEIR COME TO WATCH THEM BECAUSE THEY CAN ACCESS THE BLEACHERS SAFELY WITHOUT HAVING TO FALL DOWN A HILL THAT'S CURRENTLY COMPLETELY INACCESSIBLE IT'S IT'S TIME TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS FOR OUR KIDS. YEAH. THANK YOU. I ALSO WANTED TO SAY IT'S ALREADY KIND OF A PARKING ISSUE ESPECIALLY THAT SOCCER FIELD AREA UP ON THE THE GRASS FIELD BEHIND THE HIGH SCHOOL. I NEVER EN THOUGHT TO WALK TO OLSON SO IO THE IDEA THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME REALLY SPECIFIC CHANNELING OF SIDEWALKS THINGS BECAUSE THAT JUST IT'S NOT REALLY ACCESSIBLE RIGHT NOW TO WALK THROUGH OLSON TO GET TO THE PARKING SO HOPEFULLY THAT WILL ADDRESSED IN THE PLANNING THANK YOU THANKS FOR YOUR INPUT. HELLO. MY NAME IS MASON ZACHARY. I'M AN INCOMING SOPHOMORE AT JEFFERSON HIGH SCHOOL. I BELIEVE THAT THIS NEW STADIUM WILL BE HAVE A GREAT EFFECT ON PLAYERS PLAYING NOW AND PLAYERS TO COME. I FEEL THAT HAVING A NEW STADIUM AT THE SCHOOL WOULD LEAD TO A HIGHER LEVEL OF COMMUNITY AND PRIDE AT JEFFERSON HIGH SCHOOL THANK YOU. THANK YOU. HELLOY NAME IS WILL I'M AN INCOMING SOPHOMORE AS WELL AND I WANT HAVE A NEW STADIUM AT JEFFERSON. JUST THEN I COULD BUILD MORE COMMUNITY WITH BOTH MY TEAMMATES AND THE FANS WATCHING US PLAY. THANK THANK YOU MR. HALL HI. MY NAME IS MATT RUBLE. I'M A PROUD ACROSS DAD GIRL IN THIS STADIUM WHICH IS USE FIELD IS USE OFFICE AND THERE'S A STEAM FIELD ON EXISTING HIGH SCHOOLS RIGHT. THERE'S NOT A LOT OF CHANGES TO THE EXISTING FACILITIES. THERE'S ALREADY BLEACHERS THEY WANT BIGGER BLEACHERS THERE'S ALREADY A PORTABLE SYSTEM THEY WANT A PERMANENT SOUND SYSTEM. THE ONLY REALLY NEW FEATURE IS LIGHTS REGARDING LIGHTS IF YOU'VE EVER BEEN TO HOLY ANGELS THEY HAD A WINTER MATCH THERE. YOU CAN'T SEE THE LIGHT AT ALL FROM THE STANDS. I MEAN THE LIGHTS ARE COMPLETELY POINTED DOWN ON THE FIELD. THERE'S NO GLARE AT ALL. THEY'RE FANTASTIC. THERE'S NO EXTRA LIGHT FROM THE LIGHTING SYSTEM REGARDING IT WAS REALLY SAD THAT SENIOR NIGHT THIS PORTABLE SPEAKERS THAT USE THE ON SPEAKERS ARE PORTABLE SPEAKERS AND YOU CAN HEAR FROM THE STANDS AND SO THERE WAS A COUPLE OF GIRLS THERE THAT STARTED FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER. THEIR PARENTS NEVER GOT TO HEAR THEM START EVER WELL A GIRL SCORED HER ONLY FIRST GAME GOAL EVER AND VARSITY THE PARENTS DID NOT GET TO HEAR I'M NOT FAIR TO THE KIDS FOR THEIR PARENTS AND AUDIENCE NOT TO HEAR THEM BEING ACCOLADES FOR THEIR ONLY GAME, THEIR ONLY GOAL IN ANY GAME. SO WE NEED BETTER FOR OUR STUDENTS THE STANDS ARE THERE NOT STANDS TO GRANDSTAND YOU HAVE TO HOP ON THE SIDE OR YOU HAVE TO STEP UP ON MY GOAL THERE'S NO STAIRS. MY WIFE SLIPPED AND FELL OFF THE STANDS. SHE DID DO SOME PHYSICAL THERAPY FROM IT AND THEY'RE NOT SAFE. IT WAS ALREADY MENTIONED THAT THERE'S A GRASS. IT'S AWFULLY STEEP TO GET DOWN THE GRASS ON A DRY DRY DAY. MY MOM CAN'T DO IT ON A WET DAY. I'M NERVOUS WALKING GRASS IN THE DRY DAY WE HAS A WORSE ATHLETIC OR LACROSSE FIELD AND THE STATE EVERYBODY HAS LIGHTS, EVERYBODY HAS SOUND, EVERYBODY HAS BETTER BLEACHERS AND NOBODY HAS A GRASS LIKE WE DO. SO OUR KIDS ARE BETTER. A COUPLE OF PEOPLE WERE QUESTIONING THE RESULTS THE THE NOISE STUDIES THIS TIME YOU TWEAK GOT AN ENGINEER THAT DOES A MATH ANY TIME YOU TWEAK A MODEL THE RESULTS ARE DIFFERENT. IF YOU IF YOU ADJUST INPUTS THE OUTPUTS DIFFERENT I THINK THAT'S THE CONVERSATION COMING FROM NOW. I'M PRESUMING THAT THE THE PERSON FROM YOUR SCHOOL WITH A MASTERS DEGREE HE HAD JUST INPUT THE OUTPUT LOOKS DIFFERENT THE ACOUSTIC MODELS WILL LOOK DIFFERENT WHEN THE OUTPUT CIRCUIT THAT'S KIND OF THE WAY IT WORKS IT HASN'T BEEN MENTIONED TONIGHT YET. I DON'T KNOW HOW WE EXPLAIN TO OUR KIDS OR THE REST OF THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS ON WHY WE ALLOW EIGHT GAMES OF FOOTBALL TO BE PLAYED PRIOR HIGH SCHOOL BUT WE WON'T LET THEM MOVE TO BECAUSE IN HIGH SCHOOLS IT'S KIND OF WEIRD THAT WE FOOTBALL BE PLAYED IN A NON SCHOOL FACILITY NOT AT AN EXISTING PRESCHOOL FACILITY SO OUR KIDS DESERVE TO BETTER FACILITIES ON CAMPUS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MR. RUBLE. HI, I'M DANA BASSET. I'M A BLOOMINGTON RESIDENT OVER 20 YEARS AND I HAVE A INCOMING FRESHMAN AND SENIOR AT JEFFERSON HIGH SCHOOL BLOOMINGTON SCHOOLS FACILITIES ALREADY A POLICY IN PLACE THAT LIMITS THE USE AND HAS CLASS SCHEDULING SYSTEM FOR IF YOU ARE RENTING FACILITY LEASE AT MINIMUM YOU NEED TO HAVE CLASSES ONE, TWO AND THREE TO BE ABLE TO USE THE FACILITIES TO INCORPORATE ORGANIZATIONS WITHIN BLOOMINGTON. I JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT SO THAT YOU DO NOT ADD RESTRICTIVE LANGUAGE TO THESE STADIUMS THAT DEFEATS THE PURPOSE OF THE STADIUMS. I WOULD FOR YOU TO HAVE THAT AND THEN NOT THE COMMUNITY BE ABLE TO USE THE STADIUMS IN ORDER TO MAXIMIZE THE BENEFIT TO THE COMMUNITY. THE STADIUMS NEED TO BE OPEN TO OTHER ACTIVITIES BESIDES THE ACTIVITIES AT THE SCHOOL THINK OF BCA THINK OF BLOOMINGTON YOUTH LACROSSE ASSOCIATION AND THINGS LIKE THAT. THESE KIDS AND CLUBS FEEDER PROGRAMS INTO THE HIGH SCHOOL AND THESE KIDS WILL GROW UP TO PLAY AT THEIR RESPECTIVE SCHOOLS. THE ORGANIZATIONS BENEFIT FROM THE YOUTH AND EXPANSION OF THESE FACILITIES BUT CAN KEEP GROWING THE PROGRAMS AND FACILITIES THESE KIDS ARE THE FUTURE OF OUR COMMUNITY. LET'S FIND A WAY TO MOVE BLOOMINGTON FORWARD TOGETHER ANY ADDITIONAL RESTRICTIVE LANGUAGE THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I'M DIANE MALIKI MAYOR UM I SEE THE ADDRESS, THE MICROPHONE I GUESS I'M DIANE. EXCUSE ME. EXCUSE ME. DIANE. DIANE EXCUSE ME. COULD YOU PULL THE MICROPHONE DOWN SO WE GET THROUGH A LITTLE BIT? THERE YOU GO. HERE I AM AGAIN ADVOCATING FOR OUR NEIGHBORS. UM, AND AS THIS YOUNG LADY SPOKE, I'M LOOKING AT A FURNITURE RENTAL PROPERTY OF THE SCHOOL WHICH IS WONDERFUL AND I REALIZE THERE ARE A LOT OF GOOD REASONS TO RENT TO WORTHY ORGANIZATIONS AND GROUPS AND AS I SAID BEFORE, UM, WE AS RESIDENTS OF THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE OF THE LACK OF COORDINATION THAT MAY BE IT MAY BE CALLED WITH RENTING THESE PROPERTIES SIMPLY BECAUSE WHEN YOU HAVE TWO OR THREE THINGS GOING ON AT THE SAME TIME YOU KNOW ONE IS PAYING ATTENTION TO WHAT'S GOING ON OUTSIDE THE BUILDING AND IT SEEMS LIKE OF TRAFFIC BUILDS AND IF WE COULD GET TO A POINT WHERE WE CAN COORDINATE SOME OF THESE, WE COULD PERHAPS OVERCOME MANY OF THESE PROBLEMS THAT ARE HANGING OVER OUR HEADS AND WE DON'T WANT TO RESTRICT ANY MORE THAN WE HAVE TO WE DON'T WANT THAT WE BUT WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THESE THINGS RECOGNIZED WHICH HAVE NOT BEEN RECOGNIZED IN THE PAST. THANK YOU THANK YOU MILKY HI CAROLYN. BILL COULD I HAVE THE OVERHEAD PLEASE? SO POSSIBLE. UM, THERE YOU GO. SO I ACTUALLY WALKED THE PARKING LOTS NOT ONCE, NOT TWICE FOUR, THREE TIMES AND I LABELED THEM MYSELF SO THEY AREN'T REALLY LABELED THIS WAY PARKING LOT A ACTUALLY HAS ONLY A 128 WHITE DESIGNATED PARKING SPOTS 13 VISITORS AND THE WHOLE OUTSIDE PERIMETER THERE IS A FIRE ZONE. THERE'S NO PARKING IN PARKING LOT BE THERE'S ACTUALLY ONLY A 189 PARKING SPOTS. FIVE OF THOSE ARE RED. THAT MEANS THAT THEIR FIRE ZONE OR POLICE 38 YELLOW WHICH ARE LOADING AND UNLOADING AND THAT MEANS DRIVER HAS TO STAY IN THE VEHICLE PARKING LOT SEE WHEN THE LIGHT BLUE IS HANDICAPPED SEE IS NO PARKING THAT'S VERY CLEARLY MARKED. THAT'S LOADING AND UNLOADING AT THE BACK AND THERE'S RESTRICTIVE PARTING PARKING ALONG KIND OF FRONT PART IN PARKING LOT D THE PURPLE SHOWS THAT'S WHERE THEY HAVE SIGNS THAT SAY COOKS ONLY AND HANDICAPPED THERE IS ONLY SEVEN WHITE SPOTS TO PARK IN E THERE ARE TEN SPOTS THAT THAT'S A PURPLE FOR ACTIVITY CENTER PEOPLE ONLY IN 89 SPOTS WHERE PEOPLE CAN PARK IT I'M NOT TO ARGUE YOUR NUMBERS ARE SOME MIND NUMBERS WHATSOEVER I DON'T THAT BOTHER ME. I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT THERE'S MORE TO THIS THAN MEETS THE EYE. THERE'S A LOT OF VERBIAGE AND SIGNAGE AND AND MAKES A DIFFERENCE AND I LIVE NORTH OF 102ND SO I KNOW YOU KEEP TALKING ABOUT ALL THE PEOPLE SHOVED TO THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET. 40 YEARS AGO I SIGNED THE PETITION BECAUSE WE HAD THAT PROBLEM WE HAD STUDENTS PARKING THERE. THEY WERE BLOCKING OUR DRIVEWAYS. THE MAILMAN QUIT GIVING US THEIR MAIL THE GARBAGE GUYS FOR REFUSE TO TAKE OUR GARBAGE BECAUSE THERE'S JUST TOO MANY CARS AND THE REASON THAT WAS BECAUSE THAT'S WHEN THE SCHOOL STARTED CHARGING. SO EVERYBODY PARKED TO THE NORTH, YOU KNOW, AND NOW NOW THEY STILL DO THAT. IT'S STILL SO I'M JUST SAYING THAT AGAIN JUST PLEASE ADDRESS THAT THERE IS A REALLY BIG PARKING ISSUE A REAL BIG TRAFFIC ISSUE, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY AT THE END WITH JOHNSON AND 102ND I RECENTLY RETIRED AS A LEAD CLINICAL ASSISTANT FOR THE SURGEONS AT ABBOTT HOSPITAL SO I'VE BEEN YOUR TRIAGE NURSE FOR A LONG TIME AND I REALLY LIKE TO RETIRE THANK YOU. THANK YOU. HI MY NAME IS JOCELYN WEAVER HAVE TWO KIDDOS BOTH BLOOMINGTON STUDENTS AND I FIRST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU TO ALL OF YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND ALSO TO THE CITY PLANNER WHO HAS DONE MORE THAN DUE DILIGENCE THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS. I THINK IT'S BEEN REALLY IMPRESSIVE FOR ME TO TO LEARN ABOUT THIS AND SEE THIS. BUT IT IS VERY CLEAR THAT HAVE MET AND EXCEEDED THE BCA AND CITY BLOOMINGTON ORDINANCES WHICH IS MY UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT YOU'RE HERE TO LOOK RIGHT. AND SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR SIGNIFICANT WORK THAT YOU'VE DONE GOING BACK AT IT AND BACK AT IT AGAIN ON BEHALF OF MYSELF WHO IS A NEIGHBOR I LIVE JUST ON THE OTHER SIDE OF OLSON. I LOVE THAT THIS IS GOING TO HAPPEN FOR OUR KIDS. I CHOSE TO LIVE NEXT TO THAT SCHOOL BECAUSE MY KIDS CAN WALK TO SCHOOL. THEY CAN WALK TO THEIR SPORTS AS I'M ASSUMING MOST OF THESE PEOPLE THAT ARE COMPLAINING DID ONCE UPON A TIME. AND SO I'D LIKE TO REALLY ENCOURAGE YOU TO FOLLOW THESE ORDINANCES AS YOU HAVE AND NOTE IT'S NOT ADA COMPLIANT. MY SON HAS FRIENDS THAT CAN'T COME TO THE GAMES BECAUSE THEY CAN'T GET THERE. THERE'S TONS OF GRANDPARENTS THAT CAN'T GO AND WATCH GAMES BECAUSE WE'VE PEOPLE LITERALLY FALL DOWN THE HILL WHAT WE HAVE NOW AND CONTINUING TO PUSH THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD IS NOT IT'S NOT OKAY IT'S NOT OKAY FOR OUR KIDS. IT'S NOT OKAY FOR ANYBODY ABOUT THIS COMMUNITY. I ALSO WANT TO JUST SAY TO THE POINT ABOUT COMMUNITY WHAT SPORTS BRINGS TO COMMUNITY IT IS SIGNIFICANT. SO WHAT YOU'RE ALL HERE TO DO AND WHAT WE'RE ALL HERE TO DO IS TO THINK ABOUT HOW CAN THIS MAKE A DIFFERENCE FOR OUR COMMUNITY NOW AND INTO THE FUTURE. THERE IS COPIOUS AMOUNTS OF RESEARCH THAT SHOWS THAT ACTIVITIES AND BEING A PARTICIPANT IN THEM HAS DIRECT COROLLARY TO BEING A PRODUCTIVE MEMBER OF SOCIETY AND ON POINT ONE THEY JUST WENT THROUGH ALL OF THIS IN BLOOMINGTON. THEY WERE LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, INVESTING INTO THEIR CITY. WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? WHAT'S THE ROI? WHAT HAPPENS? ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY LOOKED AT 98.5% OF KIDS THAT PARTICIPATE IN VARSITY ARE IN KIND OF ATHLETICS AND ACTIVITIES, GRADUATE FROM HIGH THE KIDS AT DOT THEY WERE AT 62.9%. SO TO ME WHAT THIS IS TELLING ME TO CONTINUE TO DELAY AND DELAY AND TO LISTEN TO TOO NOISE IS THAT WE DON'T CARE ENOUGH ABOUT OUR KIDS. WE DON'T CARE ENOUGH ABOUT OUR COMMUNITY. AND SO I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE US MOVE FORWARD BECAUSE YOU HAVE MET AND EXCEEDED ALL OF THE STANDARDS. YOUR LIGHT IS FINE, YOUR SOUND IS FINE. PARKING HAS BEEN ADDRESSED AND SO IS TRAFFIC. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU TO EVERYONE HERE FOR YOUR TIME AND THE CARE THAT YOU PUT INTO THIS PROJECT. MY NAME IS LISA FAST. SO MANY PEOPLE HAVE SPOKEN SO ELOQUENTLY ABOUT THE OF HIGH SCHOOL STADIUMS THIS EVENING AND AT PAST MEETINGS I TOO HAVE CHILDREN WHO HAVE BENEFITED FROM ATHLETICS. THEY'VE GAINED A SENSE OF BELONGING LEADERSHIP SKILLS, TIME MANAGEMENT MANAGEMENT SKILLS. MY OLDEST CHILD JUST GRADUATED FROM JEFFERSON AND I KNOW THE EXPERIENCES HAS HAD IN BLOOMINGTON ATHLETICS LAST HIM A LIFETIME IT WAS MENTIONED WE SHOULD COMBINE TO ONE STADIUM AND I THINK THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN AND I'M SO GRATEFUL BUT LISTENING TO THESE KIDS UP HERE AND HEARING ABOUT SENIORS AS A PARENT, IT'S JUST AMAZING TO SEE YOUR KID IN THIS BANNER IN BLOOMINGTON. THEY'RE UP FOR ONE NIGHT FOR SENIOR NIGHT. EVERY OTHER COMMUNITY WE GO TO KIDS HAVE THEIR BANNERS UP ALL SEASON AND THE SENSE OF PRIDE THAT THEY HAVE IS AMAZING KIDS IN ATHLETICS, KIDS WHO ARE BAND THEY WORK FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS AT THAT'S FOR IT AND IT'S A CHANCE FOR THEM TO BE HONORED WE DON'T HAVE THAT IN BLOOMINGTON I HAVE TWO BOYS WHO PLAY HOCKEY. WE GET O NIGHT WITH OUR BANNERS UP THE BORDER BATTLE WITH CANADA KENNEDY IS SO MUCH FUN BUT NEITHER ONE OF THE SCHOOLS HAVE THOSE BANNERS UP HERE ALONG FOR THE BOYS, THE GIRLS HOCKEY AND IT'S A SHAME. I MEAN IT'S IT'S A LITTLE THING RIGHT BUT IT'S SO IMPORTANT TO THOSE KIDS. I KNOW ONE CONCERN MENTIONED WITH THE STADIUMS IS, THE PARKING AS A PARENT LIKE I SAID OF KIDS WHO PLAY AND HOCKEY AND LACROSSE, I CAN TELL THAT SPORTING EVENT TICKETS ARE SENT OUT DIGITALLY AND OFTEN INCLUDE PARKING SUCH AS THERE IS OVERFULL PARKING ALSO MIDDLE SCHOOL TO THE WEST OF JEFFERSON THEY ALSO INCLUDE NOT TO PARK C JOHNSON AVENUE AND PEOPLE FOR THE MOST PART ARE GOOD. THERE ARE ALWAYS BREAKERS AND FRANKLY SOMETIMES WHEN WE GO TO STADIUMS PARKING IS A BIT FAR AWAY. I AM SOMETIMES GRUMBLING LIKE I HAVE TO WALK THIS FAR BUT GUESS WHAT I DO IT I GO I ENJOY A GAME AND I WALK BACK. I ALSO WOULD MENTION THOSE OF US WITH FAMILY MEMBERS WHO ARE SENIOR CITIZENS WHO AREN'T CURRENTLY ABLE TO GO TO JEFFERSON TO VIEW ATHLETIC EVENTS, ARE WELL VERSED AT GOING STADIUMS, DROPPING THEM OFF AND THEN PARKING AFTERWARDS THE TRAFFIC AND PEDESTRIAN MENTIONED ARE PREEXISTING. MY YOUNGEST SON BEEN FROM ALMOST MIDDLE SCHOOL FOR THE PAST THREE YEARS. I SPOKE FREQUENTLY EXCUSE ME WITH HIM ABOUT SAFETY TURNS OUT CAR VERSUS BIKE CAR ALWAYS WINS AS HIS PARENT IT'S MY RESPONSIBILITY TO TALK TO HIM ABOUT BEING SAFE WHEN HE TRAVELS TO AND FROM SCHOOL AND I KNOW THAT HE'S BEEN TALKED ABOUT THAT EVERY YEAR IN SCHOOL. PEDESTRIAN SAFETY IS IMPORTANT . THIS PROJECT MEETS OR EXCEEDS THE CURRENT CITY ORDINANCES AND THOSE OF THE PC. THERE SHOULD NOT BE DIFFERENT STANDARDS FOR THE STADIUM PROJECT THAN THERE ARE FOR OTHER CITY PROJECTS. BLOOMINGTON DOES AN AMAZING JOB WITH GREENSPACE AND EXPERIENCES WITH NATURE WHETHER IT BE RICHARDSON NATURE CENTER, THE MINNESOTA VALLEY NATIONAL WILDLIFE REFUGE OR ONE OF THE CITY'S COUNTLESS OTHER PASSIVE PARKS . NOW IT'S TIME FOR US TO DO AN AMAZING JOB FOR OUR CHILDREN THE STADIUM PROJECT WILL PROVIDE VITALITY TO OUR CITY. IT WILL BRING FAMILIES TO BLOOMINGTON TO LIVE AND RAISE THEIR CHILDREN CHILDREN ARE OUR CITY'S FUTURE. THEY SHOULD A PRIORITY HERE. CHANGE IS HARD. NOTHING IS THE BENEFIT FOR BLOOMINGTON'S CHILDREN AND ITS COMMUNITY AT LARGE FAR OUTWEIGH THE POTENTIAL PROBLEMS. PLEASE DO WHAT'S RIGHT FOR OUR CHILDREN AND GET THESE STADIUMS BUILT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WELL I GUESS ALL FINISH UP BY SAYING THANK YOU CITY COUNCIL AND THANK YOU TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR ALL THE WORK THAT YOU GUYS HAVE PUT INTO THIS AND THE TIME YOU'VE DEDICATED TO IT ESPECIALLY ON A WEEK LIKE THIS WHERE YOU GET JULY 1ST WEEKEND STARTING OUT AND EVERYBODY WOULD LIKE TO BE AWAY FROM HERE AND DOING OTHER THINGS BUT WE'RE HERE AND I GET OVER THIS ISSUE SO CAN I ASK YOU TO IDENTIFY YOURSELF JUST SO WE HAVE YOU FOR THE RECORD ONCE AGAIN ENNIS THANK YOU. CAN APPRECIATE IT. WELCOME, MAYOR YEAH I, I JUST WANT TO LEAVE WITH THE THE THOUGHT OF RISK, YOU KNOW WE HAVE ELEVATED RISK HERE MORE SO AND NOT SO MUCH MORE SO BUT JUST MORE SO THAN THAN KENNEDY AND THE FACT THAT WE HAVE THE PARKING LOTS ARE QUITE A DISTANCE FROM THE ACTUAL STADIUM ITSELF. YOU KNOW AND I HEAR FOLKS TALKING ABOUT WE'RE ALREADY HOLDING EVENTS THERE YOU KNOW, SANCTIONED EVENTS, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE DON'T EVEN HAVE A STADIUM THERE. SO IT'S PRETTY MUCH A PRACTICE FIELD WITH SMALL BLEACHERS BUT WE'VE ALREADY SOMEHOW CONDITIONED FOLKS INTO TO PLAYING SPORTS THERE AS OPPOSED TO USING OUR EXISTING STADIUM LINCOLN WHICH IS YOU KNOW NEGATIVELY IMPACTED AS HEARD FROM SOME OF OUR PEOPLE SPEAKING HERE TONIGHT NEGATIVELY THEIR CHILDREN WHERE THE YOU KNOW THEY COULDN'T HEAR THEIR ANNOUNCEMENTS OR THEY COULDN'T SEE THEIR YOU KNOW, THEY CAN FEEL THE PRIDE OF THEIR CHILD, YOU KNOW OR THEY'RE THEY'RE ALL YOU KNOW, THE ELDERLY PARENT NOT BEING ABLE TO GET INTO THE STADIUM, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE IT'S NOT BUILT FOR THAT, YOU KNOW, YET. SO YOU KNOW, RISK IN THE FACT THAT WE BUILD THIS NEW STADIUM IN THAT YOU KNOW THERE'S STILL IT'S NO LONGER GOING TO ANSWER THE PARKING CONCERN AND THE CONGESTION AROUND THAT AREA AND THE INGRESS AND EGRESS OF 2500 PEOPLE PLUS ON BIG EVENT NIGHTS TRYING TO GET ACROSS TO 102ND TO GET TO THEIR CARS OVER IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS OVER YOU KNOW I SEE IT'S NOT AND I'M NOT TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, BE A NEGATIVE TO THE SITUATION BUT WE'RE TAKING ALREADY EXISTING RISK SITUATION AND AND WE'RE MAKING IT MORE GRANDIOSE BY YOU KNOW, PUTTING THEM IN A NIGHT TIME SITUATION TRYING TO CROSS THE STREET WITH LOW LIGHTING YOU KNOW, AFTER A HUGE EVENT. YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST SEE IT YOU KNOW, IT'S INCREASING THAT INJURIOUS TYPE OF YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, ACTIVITY THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE I DON'T WANT TO SEE THAT HAPPEN. YOU KNOW, I WORRY ABOUT THAT THAT'S WHY YOU KNOW I JUST WANT TO BRING THAT UP YOU KNOW, TO THE COUNCIL YOU KNOW, WE WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT SOMETHING TO DO TO REDUCE THAT RISK. I YOU KNOW AND AGAIN IT'S MOVING, YOU KNOW, MORE ATTENTION OVER TO OLSEN OR CREATING A PATH OR WHATEVER THE CASE BETTER PATH OR YOU THIS ALL HAS TO BE BETTER COLLABORATED AND WE ALSO HAVE TO TALK ABOUT THIS THIS FIELD FOR YOU KNOW EXTERNAL EVENTS YOU KNOW LIMITING IT MAY BE THE BEST WAY TO GO BECAUSE. WE MAY HAVE TO SET OUT ALL SORTS OF , YOU KNOW, PLACARDS AND EVERYTHING ELSE TO HAVE A HUGE EVENT THERE, YOU KNOW, JUST EVEN MANAGE IT BECAUSE OF ITS, YOU KNOW, LOCATION AND THE TRYING TO GET YOU THE THE CROWDS IN AND OUT OF THE STADIUM SO YOU KNOW, I, I, I KNOW, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE YOU KNOW, THE STUDENTS HAVE AN PLACE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHY I SUGGESTED POSSIBLY, YOU KNOW, ENHANCING LINCOLN FIELD MAKING IT GRANDIOSE MAYBE EVEN PUT A COVER OVER THE TOP OF IT SO WE CAN HAVE EVENTS LATE THE EVENING AND WE CAN HAVE EVENTS DURING RAIN EVENTS WE DON'T HAVE FOR THE KIDS NOW, YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S THAT'S SAD, YOU KNOW THAT'S SAD. YOU KNOW WE HAVE TO TO TRY TO, YOU KNOW, GET AROUND THOSE, YOU KNOW, SITUATIONS WITH THE WAY WE HAVE IT. WE CAN WE CAN COORDINATE THAT YOU KNOW, I WAS GOING BACK TO WHEN I WAS IN HIGH SCHOOL WE DIDN'T HAVE A STADIUM EITHER AND WHAT WE RENTED OUT THE LOCAL JUNIOR COLLEGE STADIUM AND THAT'S WHERE ALL THE MEMORIES I HAVE COME FROM, YOU KNOW AND IT WAS IT WAS IT WAS IT HAD ALL THE FACILITIES IT HAD ALL THE YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING YOU NEEDED FOR A FOOTBALL EVENT OR A BASEBALL ARENA OVER HER SOCCER EVENT, YOU KNOW, ALL OF IT WAS THERE, YOU KNOW, SO YOU KNOW, I HOPE THE COMMUNITY TAKES MY MY THOUGHTS INTO CONSIDERATION AND REALIZES THAT YOU KNOW TRYING TO CRAM TOO MUCH INTO TOO SMALL AN AREA IS CREATING RISK. IT MAY BE RISK WE MAY NOT WANT TO TAKE ON BECAUSE OF THE POTENTIAL OUTCOME THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU MR. YOU'RE JUST IN TIME I WAS GOING TO DO LAST SO GETTING PRETTY CLOSE IS MY NAME IS MARK BACHMANN I'M THE HEAD FOOTBALL COACH AT BLOOMINGTON JEFFERSON RECENTLY TIM CARLSON DID ALL THE WORK WITH THE BOOSTERS EVERYBODY I'M JUST HERE NOW SO TIM GETS ALL THE CREDIT. JUST A COUPLE OF THOUGHTS. FIRST, FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH AND I DON'T MEAN TO PATRONIZE YOU I APOLOGIZE BUT I JUST RETIRED AS AN OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE DIRECTOR FOR OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT MY NUMBER ONE RESPONSIBILITY WAS FRONT PORCH . PEOPLE MAKE DECISIONS WITHOUT WALKING THE SCHOOL. THEY DRIVE BY IT WHEN THEY'RE TRYING TO DECIDE WHERE TO PUT THEIR FAMILIES. LOOK AT OUR FRONT PORCH I'VE LISTENED TO TALK ABOUT GOING TO EVENTS AT OTHER STADIUMS. LOOK AT OUR FRONT PORCH. YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT STABILITY IN A SCHOOL DISTRICT? GIVE PEOPLE A REASON TO SEND THEIR KIDS TO JEFFERSON AND ENROLL IN BLOOMINGTON JEFFERSON SCHOOL. THAT'S GOING TO HELP THE SCHOOL DISTRICT FUND EVERYTHING THEY WANT TO FIND. THAT'S GOING TO HELP YOU AS OF THE COMMUNITY REPRESENTATIVES OF THE COMMUNITY TO MAKE SURE CAN FUND ALL THE THINGS THAT BLOOMINGTON NEEDS. IT'S GOING TO GROW OUR ENTIRE COMMUNITY. SO I ENCOURAGE YOU TO THINK ABOUT THE FRONT PORCH AND I SHARE THAT BECAUSE I TOOK A LEAP OF FAITH TO COME TO JEFFERSON A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO WHEN I RETIRED. I DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT JEFFERSON OTHER THAN IT WAS AN OKAY SCHOOL. WELL, I FOUND OUT ONCE I GOT HERE IS THEIR COACHING. IT'S A PHENOMENAL SCHOOL AND THAT'S WHY I'M NOW THE HEAD COACH. THERE ARE GREAT PEOPLE THAT SUPPORT THE PROGRAMS THERE ARE TREMENDOUS KIDS. THE SUPPORT FROM THE BOOSTERS ARE PHENOMENAL. BUT IF YOU DRIVE BY THE STADIUM DOESN'T LOOK THAT WAY . YOU'RE GOING TO HELP YOUR OWN COMMUNITY BY GETTING THE STADIUM BUILT. NOW THE OTHER PIECE OF THAT IS NOBODY LIKE KIDS FROM LINCOLN ANYWAY. WHY DO WE WANT TO PLAY THERE? I MARRIED INTO A LINCOLN FAMILY. THEY'RE A BUNCH OF YAHOOS. WE DON'T WANT TO BE THERE ANYMORE. FINALLY, IT'S THE FOURTH QUARTER I'M A FOOTBALL COACH. IT'S LITERALLY THE FOURTH QUARTER OF THIS MEETING AND YOU'VE HEARD A LOT OF STUFF AND WHEN WE GET TO THE FOURTH QUARTER OF A TIE GAME WE NEED TO BE FOCUSED. WE NEED TO REMIND PLAYERS OF WHAT'S IMPORTANT, WHAT CAN CONTROL, WHAT ARE WE HERE TO DO RIGHT NOW THERE'S PEOPLE YELLING IN THE STANDS BOTH FOR AND AGAINST US. WELL YOU'RE HEARING FROM A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE OPINIONS AND PASSION ABOUT THIS. BUT THERE'S ONLY ONE THING TO BE DECIDED TONIGHT AND THAT'S WHETHER THE PEOPLE PUT THESE PLANS TOGETHER. BUT THE EXPECTATIONS THIS STADIUM AND THEY HAVE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. BARTLETT. THE LAST CALL FOR ANYONE IN THE CHAMBERS. WE HAVE ANYONE ON THE PHONE AT THIS LATE HOUR. NO EMERGENCY. THERE IS NO ONE ON THE PHONE. VERY GOOD COUNSEL. NO ONE ON THE PHONE. NO ONE COMING FORWARD. I WILL EXCUSE ME. I'M LOSING MY VOICE. I WOULD LOOK FOR A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND I AM 4.3 THIS EVENING SO MOVED THE SECOND MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER CARTER TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON 4.3 NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSE THE MOTION CARRIED SEVEN ZERO CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING SO I'M ASSUMING COUNCIL LOWMAN YOU'RE GOING HELP ME OUT WITH SOME OF THE QUESTIONS AS WELL AGAIN THIS TIME I THINK THE BIGGEST AND MOST OBVIOUS ONE THAT WE KEEP HEARING IS THIS NOTION PARKING HOW TO FIGURE OUT A PLAN PUT A PLAN IN PLACE TO DEAL WITH THE PARKING TO DEAL WITH THE THE PEDESTRIAN ISSUES I HEARD SIDEWALK WITH I HEARD THE CROSSING JOHNSON I HEARD I JUST HEARD ALL OF THIS AND I WONDER HOW DOES THIS WORK BETWEEN OUR FOLKS, OUR ENGINEERING, OUR TRAFFIC FOLKS OR PUBLIC WORKS PEOPLE AND THE SCHOOL DISTRICT HOW? DO WE WORK TOGETHER TO TRY AND FIGURE THIS OUT AND PUT THIS PLAN TOGETHER SO THAT SO THAT THIS DOES MAKE SENSE THAT IT'S NOT JUST A GOOD IDEA AND NOT JUST WE'RE SITTING HERE THINKING WE'VE GOT TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN TO MAKE REALLY WORK BUT HOW DO WE DO THIS? SO IT ACTUALLY DOES WORK. WE COME UP WITH A PLAN OF SOME AND EXCUSE ME AND I THINK, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A CONDITION IT'S MORE OF I THINK A STAFF I THINK IT'S BASICALLY THE CITY COUNCIL INSISTS OF AND LOOKING AT OUR SCHOOL BOARD MEMBERS AND HOPING TO SEE THEM NODDING AS WE SAY WE NEED TO FIGURE THIS OUT. WE NEED TO GET THIS DONE SOMEHOW BECAUSE THIS IS THIS IS BASICALLY THE THE THING ON THIS THIS ISSUE I THINK RIGHT NOW IS HOW DO WE DEAL WITH ALL OF THIS AND I MEAN SO I WOULD LOOK I WOULD LOOK TO STAFF I WOULD LOOK TO OUR STAFFS AND AND COUNT ON THE FACT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A PLAN IN PLACE AS THIS STADIUM STARTS TO GO IF WE APPROVE THIS IF THIS STADIUM STARTS TO GO UP AT THE SAME TIME NEEDS TO BE SOME SORT OF ROBUST TRAFFIC MITIGATION PLAN DEVELOPED AND IN PLACE BEFORE IT OPENS BEFORE BEFORE PEOPLE ARE IN THAT STADIUM AND. I DON'T KNOW IF IF THERE IS MORE THAT WE HAVE TO SPECIFY THAN THAT BECAUSE I KNOW THERE'S ABOUT 15 DIFFERENT POSSIBILITIES AND OPTIONS AND CONCERNS THAT WE HEARD FROM. SO I WOULDN'T I DON'T WANT TO SAY SPECIFICALLY WELL CLOSED JOHNSON AND WE'RE DONE BUT TO TURN IT OVER TO THE FOLKS WHO CAN LOOK ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT POSSIBILITIES TO WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY AND OUT A WAY TO MAKE THIS WORK. COUNCILMEMBER NELSON AND THEN COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO YEAH. THANK YOU MAYOR. AND IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT CONDITION NUMBER THREE ADDRESSES THAT ACCESS CIRCULATION TRAFFIC OPERATIONS AND MUST BE APPROVED BY THE CITY ENGINEER AND SO I THINK THAT I JUST WANT TO THROW A COUPLE OF ITEMS INTO THAT CONVERSATION JUST SO THEY'RE ON THE RECORD ON THE SIDEWALKS . OLSON AND AND THE EAST SIDE OF OLSON ARE NOT IN GREAT CONDITION AND PART OF THEM RUNS INTO A I'LL HONEST I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS IT'S JUST A BIG RECTANGULAR CONCRETE AREA THAT SEEMS TO BE CRUMBLING. I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT IT USED BE USED FOR AND MY KIDS WENT THERE SO I I THAT'S SOMETHING TO LOOK AT THAT THIS BRINGS UP THE LIGHTING THING THAT BROUGHT UP EARLIER. THERE ISN'T LIGHTING FOR THAT SO IF YOU'RE LEAVING AT 930 IN THE FALL THAT WHOLE AREA I THINK THERE'S LIGHTING ON THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING BUT I DON'T KNOW FOR THE ENTIRE PATH TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S SAFE FOR PEOPLE GETTING BACK THERE . AND THEN ONE THING I DID HEAR FROM ONE OF THE COMMENTERS WAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO POTENTIALLY LOOK AT PARKING MORE PARKING THE EAST SIDE IF THE I WE'RE NOT ABLE TO GET PEOPLE TO GO TO THE WEST SIDE OF THE OLSENS AND PARK IN THE MAIN LOT AND THERE IS THERE ALONG THE I BELIEVE WOULD BE ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE ROAD JUST TO THE EAST OF THE TENNIS COURTS. I THINK TO ADD IN ADDITIONAL PARKING THERE. SO I WOULD JUST ASK THAT THERE'S CONSIDERATION OF MAYBE A PROOF OF PARKING LOT ASKING YOU TO BUILD IT RIGHT NOW THERE IS ADEQUATE PARKING AS THEY'VE SHOWN THERE BUT IF IT BECAME NECESSARY IF PEOPLE AREN'T USING SPACE AND THERE ARE CONFLICTS AND CONCERNS ABOUT PEOPLE CROSSING HUNDRED AND SECOND AND THINGS LIKE THAT THAT THAT MAY BE AN AREA IN THE FUTURE TO LOOK AT FOR PARKING. SO JUST WANT TO THROW THAT INTO THE CONVERSATION AND THEN AT THE ENTRANCE AT JOHNSON JUST LOOK AT YOU KNOW IT MAY NOT BE A PERMANENT CLOSURE BUT THE TEMPORARY SIGNAGE THAT IT'S CLOSED BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME CONFLICTS THERE REGARDS TO THE TICKET BOOTH CONCESSIONS OR WITH TRAFFIC MOVING BY THEM. SO I JUST WANT TO PUT THOSE ON THE RECORD AS THINGS TO TAKE A LOOK AT BUT I THINK STAFF THAT'S WHAT CONDITION THREE IS ABOUT IS MY UNDERSTANDING. SO TWO OH SO I'M STILL LOOKING AT THE WRONG ONE SO YEAH CALL ME ABOUT IT. THAT'S HOW WE STARTED THIS EVENING. COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO THANK YOU MR. MAYOR? YEAH. I THINK THAT YOU SAID WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY PRETTY SUCCINCTLY, BUT I WANT TO JUST UNDERSCORE THE POINT THE ESPECIALLY FOR THIS STADIUM THE BAR IS SET REALLY, REALLY HIGH AND. IT IS ON ALL SIDES OF THIS DEBATE. YOU HAVE PEOPLE WHO THINK THAT THIS THING IS GOING TO BE THE SECOND COMING OF BLOOMINGTON SCHOOL DISTRICT AND YOU HAVE PEOPLE WHO THINK IT'S GOING TO BE LIKE, YOU KNOW WORLD LIKE I DON'T KNOW THE END OF THE WORLD PEOPLE IN ALL OF THAT SPECTRUM SO AGAIN EXECUTION HERE IS ABSOLUTELY KEY AND PROACTIVE COMMUNICATION IS GOING TO BE KEY AND THE CITY HAS THE LEAST TO DO WITH THAT. I MEAN I, I DON'T WANT TO ABDICATE RESPONSIBILITY HERE BUT I FEEL LIKE WE'VE TAKEN ON AND HERE WE ARE AT 1030 AT NIGHT ON THE FIFTH TIME THAT I THINK I'VE HAD A CONVERSATION THIS LIKE WE HAVE TAKEN ON AN UNDUE BURDEN HERE MY OPINION WE'RE ONLY SUPPOSED TO BE ASKING THE QUESTIONS WHETHER OR NOT THIS MEETS THE FOUR CONDITIONS AND THAT IS ACTUALLY SOMETHING COULD HAVE DONE IN 10 MINUTES. BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT WE DID. WE WE SPENT SIX MONTHS TALKING ABOUT THIS INSTEAD INCLUDING WAY MORE TIME THAN I WISH WE DID TONIGHT. BUT BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO AREN'T ACTUALLY HERE TO TALK THE FOUR CONDITIONS THEY'RE HERE TO GET HEARD ABOUT THINGS THAT THEY PROBABLY COULD HAVE BEEN HEARD ABOUT OVER THE COURSE OF SINCE NOVEMBER IF THERE WERE THE KINDS OF MEETINGS AND THE KINDS OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT THAT WERE NECESSARY TO MAKE THESE THINGS HAPPEN. SO I, I REALLY, REALLY WANT TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN GET A BETTER PLAN IN PLACE FOR THE EXECUTION OF THESE THINGS. I'M HAPPY TO SUPPORT THEM I UNDERSTAND THEIR VALUE BUT I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO I DON'T THINK THAT THIS WILL BE THE LAST WE HEAR FROM ANYBODY IF THIS DOESN'T GO WELL AND THERE ARE A LOT OF WAYS THAT PEOPLE CAN CAN LOOK AT THIS TO SAY IT'S NOT GOING WELL. THANKS. COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS, I JUST JUST WANT TO EMPHASIZE THE FACT THAT EVERYBODY AWARE THAT WE HAD PARKING ISSUES IN BOTH PLACES AND I DON'T THINK IT WAS TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION WHEN THEY CAME UP WITH THE IDEA TO BUILD THE STADIUMS AND WE WOULDN'T BE HERE AT THIS POINT TALKING ABOUT IT IF THE PARKING CONDITIONS HAVE BEING ADDRESSED AT THE MOMENT THAT THEY DECIDED WE WANT TO BUILD A NEW STADIUM OR TWO STADIUMS AGAIN I CAN FREELY SAY THAT I AM FOR THIS STADIUM. IT'S A GREAT BENEFIT FOR THE SCHOOL. HOWEVER ALL THIS CONSIDERATION CONSIDERATIONS TO HAVE BEEN TAKING PLACE BEFORE THE IDEA CAME TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND ALL THE STUDIES ALL THE ANALYSIS OF SOUND AND LIGHTING WE'RE TAKING THIS HAD THEY COMPLETED TWO HAD CONSIDERED A PARKING AND AND ALL THE RAMIFICATIONS OF BUILDING A BIGGER STADIUM WE ALL KNOW THAT IT'S GOING TO CAUSE EXTRA TRAFFIC GIVEN THE FACT THAT IT'S JUST GOING TO BE A FEW TIMES A YEAR IT'S STILL I THINK WE SHOULD ALL THINK ABOUT IT BEFORE WE PLAN ON ANYTHING OF THIS SIZE AND IT'S NOT THAT BIG A THAT BUT IT SHOULD BE TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION WHAT I JUST THINK THAT WE'RE ALL AWARE THAT THERE ARE PARKING SITUATIONS IN BOTH LOCATIONS AND I VISIT THE OTHER SCHOOL ON THE OTHER SIDE JEFFERSON FOR OTHER REASONS TODAY I'M NOT GOING TO STATE HERE BUT THE FACT IS THAT BOTH PLACES NEED I IN DIRE NEED OF PARKING SPACES WERE NOT ANYTHING HAPPENS AT THE LOCATION SO I BELIEVE THAT IN THE FUTURE IF THERE ARE ANY PLANS FROM THE CITY OR YOUR SCHOOL TO COME UP WITH ANY NEW ADDITIONS YOU KNOW ALL THESE THINGS SHOULD BE CONSIDERED BEFORE SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO TRY TO ADDRESS THEM AS WE COME TO THE FOURTH QUARTER AS THE GENTLEMAN MENTIONED EARLIER THAT SAID THANK YOU THANK COUNCIL LAMENT HERE I'M JUST ADJUSTING TO COMMENTS HERE BECAUSE I'VE HAD QUESTIONS READY AND PREPARED TO GO THAT WERE ADDITIONAL BUT I'LL JUST INTEGRATE THIS INTO THIS HERE SO WE'RE ASKED HERE TO DO THIS EVENING AGAIN IS A AND I WANT TO JUST YOU KNOW REMIND US THAT WE'RE FOCUSED ON THOSE FOUR FOUR QUESTIONS AND YOU KNOW, FOR ALL FOUR OF THOSE QUESTIONS, YOU KNOW, THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS GONE THROUGH THAT AND MADE THEIR THEIR PEACE WITH THAT. AND I JUST WANT TO REMIND THOSE FOLKS THAT ARE THAT ARE HERE THIS EVENING IT'S REALLY NOT ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT WE SUPPORT OR DO NOT SUPPORT A FACILITY IN THAT PARTICULAR NEIGHBORHOOD. IT'S REALLY ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THIS PARTICULAR PERMIT MEETS THE QUALIFICATIONS THAT WE'VE BEEN SET OUT BY THE CITY IN ORDER TO PASS IT. AND IF WE LOOK AT THOSE THOSE FOUR QUALIFICATIONS, THAT'S REALLY WHERE IT'S AT AND THEN THE NEXT PIECE IS WHETHER OR NOT THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE'RE ASKING ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT ANY OTHER APPLICANT WOULD WOULD ASK FOR WITH RESPECT TO THIS AND I HEARD THE APPLICANT SAY CLEARLY EARLIER THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'D RATHER JUST STICK WITH THOSE FOUR ITEMS THAT WERE PLACED THERE. BUT I DO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE ABLE TO HEAR THOSE ITEMS WHICH THAT THAT THOSE RESIDENTS HAD ASKED TO BE ADDED AROUND SOUND I THINK WE GOT TO WELL CLARITY AROUND THE IDEA THAT THAT THAT'S ALREADY THERE THAT THERE'S THERE'S LAWS THAT ARE THERE IN PLACE AND THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO TO TO TAKE CARE OF THAT I HEARD THIS EVENING PARKING THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A CONVERSATION AROUND THAT AND THAT'S PART OF THE THE CONDITIONS ALREADY AND SO AND I TRUST OUR ENGINEER TO LOOK OVER THOSE ITEMS AND THIS TESTIMONY TONIGHT PLACED FORWARD AND THEN IN TERMS OF THE REGIONAL RESTRICTION THERE WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS BROUGHT UP BY A A ONE OF THE FOLKS HERE THAT THE CITY OR THE PROBABLY THE SCHOOL ALREADY HAS THE CLASSIFICATION PROCESS IN PLACE THAT THEY UTILIZE WITH FACILITY USE CLASSIFICATIONS AND SO A CONVERSATION THAT CAN CONTINUE TO BE TAKEN PLACE WITH THE SCHOOL AND THE SCHOOL BOARD IS ALSO AN ELECTED ENTITY AS WELL. AND SO SOME OF THESE THINGS DO NEED TO KIND OF GO BACK TO THE SCHOOL BOARD AND I TRUST OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS TO BE ABLE TO TO HELP GIVE DIRECTION AROUND THE USE OF THOSE SCHOOL BUILDINGS AS WE ARE ELECTED HERE TODAY AND SO REALLY I THINK IS UTILIZED AS COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO SAID THIS IS REALLY A STRAIGHTFORWARD KIND OF SITUATION THAT WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME BUT WE THAT BECAUSE WE CARE ABOUT WHAT OUR RESIDENTS ARE COMING US AND THE CONCERNS THAT THEY HAVE AROUND THESE PARTICULAR ISSUES AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO BE A COUNCIL THAT LISTENS TO OUR RESIDENTS CONCERNS AND TRYING TO FIND WAYS THAT MAKE REASONABLE SENSE TO KIND OF MOVE FORWARD. AND SO I THINK WE'VE BEEN VERY REASONABLE. I THINK THAT WE'RE KIND OF AT A POINT NOW THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED THIS WE'VE CHEWED THIS UP, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT MANY TIMES ONE WAY OR THE OTHER AND I'D BE HAPPY TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE THE MOTION TO MOVE THIS FORWARD SO THAT WE CAN MOVE ON WITH THE REST OF OUR AGENDA TONIGHT. WELL, WHY DON'T YOU MAKE THE MOTION IF YOU WOULD LIKE COUNCILMEMBER AND WE CAN PUT IT ON THE TABLE AND IF FOLKS WANT TO DO THAT TO DO THAT HANDS ON THIS MOTION HERE. SO I WOULD MOVE I'LL GET IT DON'T WORRY I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE THE FINAL SITE AND BUILDING PLANS CAN YOU GIVE ME THE NUMBER AND THE BUILDING PLANS FOR THE STADIUM IMPROVEMENTS AT JEFFERSON HIGH SCHOOL SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS AND CODE ATTACHED TO THE STAFF REPORT AND I NEED THE NUMBER FOR WE WERE GOING TO ADD THE TRASH REQUIREMENT TO THIS ONE AS WELL NUMBER ONE NUMBER 20 SO MOVE TO ADD A TRASH REQUIREMENT ON THIS AS WELL AS A CONDITION 22ND MOST OF MY COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER CARTER TO APPROVE THE FINAL SITE AND BUILDING PLANS FOR THE STADIUM IMPROVEMENTS AT JEFFERSON HIGH SCHOOL SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS AND CODE REQUIREMENTS ATTACHED TO THE STAFF REPORT WITH WITH MODIFICATIONS BY COUNCILMEMBER AND DISCUSSION ON THIS COUNCILMEMBER NELSON AND THEN COUNCILMEMBER CARTER THANK YOU MAYOR TO MAYOR MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT YOU WANT TO COPY THE ADDITIONS THAT WE MADE TO THE KENNEDY ONE WHICH IS THE TRASH MANAGEMENT PLAN BE BY STAFF. I THINK THAT'S WHAT I HEARD. I SAID YEAH OKAY TRYING TO MAKE SURE I HEARD FROM NELSON . YEAH. SO JUST SPEAKING TO THIS MOTION I THIS ONE IS I THINK IN SOME WAYS A LITTLE BIT MORE CHALLENGING OF THE PARKING BECAUSE THE NOISE IS LIKE RATE AT 65 BUT I DO THINK IT MEETS ALL OF THE STANDARDS. SO THE SAME THING THAT I SAID BEFORE IS IS MY HOPE AND EXPECTATION YOU KNOW, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, CITY STAFF AND INTERESTED RESIDENTS WILL WORK TOGETHER PARTICULARLY THAT AREA. WE'RE RIGHT AT 65 ON THE NOISE AND JUST TO MAKEURE THAT WE'RE COMFORTABLE BEFORE WE BUILD IT AND TEST IT JUST DON'T WANT TO RUN INTO THE PROBLEMS AFTERWARDS LET'S DO ALL THE DUE DILIGENCE UPFRONT AS WE GO THROUGH THE FINALIZATION OF THE DESIGN PROCESS THINGS OF THAT NATURE. WE TALKED ABOUT THE PARKING ALREADY A I WOULD JUST ADD WITH REGARDS TO THE REQUEST FOR RESTRICTIONS ON THE USE IN MY OPINION THAT STARTS TO GET INTO A USE QUESTION, A BUILDING QUESTION AND THIS IS A BUILDING APPLICATION SO WE CAN CERTAINLY HAVE CONDITIONS BUT THEY HAVE TO BE RELATED THE BUILDING OF IT SO WE'VE GOT YOU KNOW LANDS AND WE'VE GOT TRAFFIC, WE'VE GOT YOU KNOW, NOISE LIGHT ALL OF THOSE THINGS ONCE WE GET INTO THE USE JUST LIKE COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN SAID, WE'RE NOT HERE TO DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT IT MAKES SENSE OR IS A GOOD IDEA TO BUILD TWO SEPARATE STADIUMS. THAT'S SCHOOL BOARD'S DECISION THAT'S UP TO THEM. IT'S ALSO TO THE SCHOOL BOARD IN TERMS OF THE USE OF IT. YOU KNOW, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS ALLOWED IN THIS DISTRICT AND AND THEY ARE THE STEWARDS OF THAT AND HOW THEY USE THAT. AND SO FOR THAT REASON I MEAN I SUPPORT THIS APPRECIATE EVERYONE'S TONIGHT I REALLY APPRECIATE ALL THE FEEDBACK AND IF I COULD END IT ALL BE HELPFUL IN FURTHER CONVERSATIONS. PLEASE LET KNOW SO I'M ANY OTHER COMMENTS COUNCIL WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THE TABLE TO APPROVE THE FINAL SET AND BUILDING PLANS STADIUM IMPROVEMENTS AT JEFFERSON HIGH SCHOOL NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSED THE MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO BEFORE EVERYBODY BEFORE EVERYBODY CHASES OFF HERE. TOM HOLD ON A MINUTE, MAN. I'M GOING TO COMPLIMENT YOU I WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY FOR FOR YOUR INPUT ON THIS MEAN THIS HAS BEEN TYPICALLY WHEN WE HAVE A FULL COUNCIL CHAMBERS LIKE THIS AND PEOPLE HAVE SPEAKING ON BOTH SIDES OF AN ISSUE IT GETS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT IN HERE SO I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT EVERYBODY TALKED VERY THEY I MEAN YOU COULD HEAR THE PASSION ON BOTH SIDES. YOU COULD THE THE THE DESIRE TO MAKE THIS A BETTER COMMUNITY FOR EVERYBODY. AND SO I APPLAUD YOU AND I APPLAUD YOU FOR YOUR YOUR INVOLVEMENT WITH THIS STICKING IT OUT UNTIL A QUARTER TO 11 ON A MONDAY NIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANKS FOR BEING HERE THANKS FOR MAKING THIS A GOOD PROCESS. WELL DONE FOR FOR THE BUDGET. ALL RIGHT. COUNCIL WE STILL HAVE TWO ITEMS ON OUR AGENDA AND WE DON'T HAVE TIME TO GET DONE AND SO I AM GOING TURN TO COUNCIL TO WHAT'S YOUR TITLE CITY FOR BRUGGE AND COME UP WITH A ALTERNATIVE HERE MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS THERE'S SPECIFIC ACTION THAT'S REQUIRED ON EITHER OF THESE ITEMS TONIGHT SO WE'LL GO BACK AT OUR MANAGEMENT MEETING AND FIGURE OUT THE APPROPRIATE TIMING TO BRING THEM BACK FOR SUBSEQUENT. I DO WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE AND THANK MR. JOHNSON FOR THE AMOUNT OF TIME HE SPENT HERE THIS EVENING IN SOLIDARITY WITH HIS PLANNING COLLEAGUES AND WE'RE GOING TO LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING HIM BACK AT A FUTURE MEETING. SO YEAH. SO WITH THAT COUNCIL WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON TO A FINAL OF THE AGENDA THIS IS OUR CITY ISSUES AND UPDATE CONSULTATION AND UPDATE I'LL START WITH THE REVIEW OF OUR CITY LISTENING SESSION HAD UH FIVE SPEAKERS THIS EVENING WE HAD SELLING US BACK TO US THIS TIME SPEAKING ABOUT ISSUES REGARDING LIGHTING AT DAR AL FAROOQ TRACE HOTEL. I DIDN'T GET TRACE'S LAST NAME BUT I HOPE I'M PRONOUNCING THAT CORRECTLY BROUGHT FORWARD A NUMBER OF SUGGESTIONS REGARDING SUSTAINABILITY AND INCLUDING LIKE THE USE OF HERBICIDES IN THE CITY PARK EDIBLE TREES IN THE PARKS, URBAN FARMS, LAWNS AND SO ON SO GOOD GOOD COMMENTS FROM TREES WE HEARD FROM SHEILA BERRY AND FROM CHERYL CROUSE CREWS ACROSS REGARDING ISSUES WITH THE BLOOMINGTON POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THEN MIKE LIST WAS IN FRONT OF US AGAIN TALKING ABOUT THE ISSUE OF GROUP HOMES IN NEIGHBORHOODS IN THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON AGAIN A GOOD I THOUGHT A GOOD LISTENING SESSION AND WE GOT SOME GOOD INFORMATION AND GOOD BACK AND FORTH WITH RESIDENTS BEYOND THAT JUST REPORT A COUPLE OF THINGS I SPENT A COUPLE OF DAYS ON THE ROAD LAST WEEK I WAS AT IN KANSAS CITY FOR THE U. CONFERENCE OF MEETING WHICH WAS VERY GOOD AND THEN DOWN IN ROCHESTER, MINNESOTA FOR THE LEAGUE OF MINNESOTA CITIES MEETING FOR EVERY TIME I GO TO ONE OF THOSE THINGS I ALWAYS LOOK FOR AT LEAST ONE OR TWO ITEMS THAT I CAN BRING BACK AND I WILL SAY MISSION ACCOMPLISHED WITH OF THEM. AND IT WAS INTERESTING HOW THEY CAME AT ME IN DIFFERENT WAYS, DIFFERENT THINGS AND IT'S ALSO INTERESTING THE DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE OF COURSE WITH THE U.S. CONFERENCE OF MAYORS, BLOOMINGTON IS CONSIDERED A SMALL AND THE LEAGUE OF MINNESOTA CITIES BLOOMINGTON IS THE SECOND LARGEST CITY THAT PARTICIPATES IN THAT REGULARLY. BUT AGAIN STILL THERE WAS SO MUCH BROUGHT UP IN SO MANY DIFFERENT THINGS FROM LEED CERTIFICATION TO CHILD CARE TO TO THE MICROCHIP INDUSTRY. THERE WAS JUST A LOT OF DIFFERENT PIECES OF IT THAT I BROUGHT BACK LITTLE NUGGETS FROM THAT WAS VERY HELPFUL AND IT WAS VERY USEFUL AND AS ALWAYS APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY AND THE SUPPORT FROM THE COUNCIL TO BE ABLE TO GO TO THINGS LIKE THIS AND AND TO LEARN AND TO BRING SOME OF THOSE IN THOSE NUGGETS AND THAT INFORMATION BACK. SO THANK YOU FOR I ENJOYED BEING INVOLVED IN THOSE GROUPS AND IT REALLY IS I THINK IT MAKES ME A BETTER MAYOR AND I HOPE YOU ALL AGREE SO MR. RUBIO, ANYTHING TO ADD? YES, MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MUST WANT TO NOTIFY THE COUNCIL THAT TODAY CITY RECEIVED A CHARTER AMENDMENT PETITION REGARDING THE REPEAL OF RANKED CHOICE VOTING AND REINSTATING A PRIMARY ELECTION FOR CITY ELECTIONS THAT WAS DELIVERED TO THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE TODAY. SO OUR STAFF HAS BEEN IN CONTACT THE PETITIONERS AND HAVE BEEN EXPECTING THE SUBMISSION WE NOTIFIED THEM OF WHAT THE NECESSARY TIMELINES WERE BECAUSE OF THE REQUIREMENT TO WORK BACKWARDS FROM NOVEMBER TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING FOLLOWS CHARTER REQUIREMENTS AND COUNTY REQUIREMENTS WE HAVE ALREADY SCHEDULED CHARTER COMMISSION FOR A MEETING ON JULY 10TH TO OFFICIALLY RECEIVE THE PETITION AND THEN ONCE IT'S BEEN RECEIVED THE CITY CLERK HAS TEN DAYS TO DETERMINE IF IT IS SUFFICIENT SO. OUR ELECTION STAFF IS ALREADY WORKING ON SIGNATURE VERIFICATIONS AND THEY'LL BE AND THEY'LL BE WORKING TO REVIEW THE PETITION, MAKE SURE IT MEETS ALL AND STATUTES AND RULES AND THEN IT WILL COME BACK TO THE CITY COUNCIL PRESUMING EVERYTHING FOLLOWS FORM HERE AT THE JULY 22ND COUNCIL MEETING. SO THAT'S JUST AN UPDATE AND WE'LL HAVE MORE INFORMATION FOR YOU IN SOME OF THE OFFICIAL CORRESPONDENCE. BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU KNEW SINCE IT WAS A TIMELY SUBMITTAL TODAY THAT'S KIND OF A BIG ISSUE THAT YOU PROBABLY WANT TO KNOW ABOUT THAT SO THAT'S THAT'S ONE OF MANY QUESTIONS ON THAT QUESTION AND IF MR. RUBIO HAS ONE COUNCILMEMBER A MOMENT, SO WOULD THAT IF EVERYTHING GETS SET UP WITHIN THIS BALLOT OR WOULD IT BE NEXT YEAR? MR. AND COUNCILMEMBERS COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN IT WOULD BE THE NOVEMBER BALLOT AS WELL CHARTER THAT'S WHEN THE THE CHARTER AMENDMENT QUESTION WOULD BE AND THEN IT WOULD TAKE EFFECT FOR THE NEXT CITY ELECTIONS BECAUSE AGAIN REMEMBER OUR RANKED CHOICE VOTING APPLIES IN CITY ELECTIONS. IT DOESN'T APPLY TO SCHOOL BOARD DOESN'T APPLY TO ANY OTHER OFFICES. SO THAT MEANS THE OFF YEAR ELECTIONS WHEN CITY SEATS ARE UP WHICH WOULD BE IN 2025 SO THE VOTE WOULD BE NOVEMBER OF 2024 AND WHETHER IT PASSES OR IT FAILS THEN 2025 ELECTIONS WOULD BE HELD UNDER ONE FORM OR THE OTHER. THANKS FOR THE CLARIFICATION COUNCILMEMBER ANOTHER QUICK POINT OF CLARIFICATION. SO THE LAST TIME WHEN SUBMITTED THE PETITION IT WAS ABOUT CHANGING THE CHARTER LANGUAGE IF I'M REMEMBERING CORRECTLY. SO THIS ONE IS DIFFERENT IN THAT IT WOULD JUST BE A FLAT OUT JUST LIKE A BALLOT QUESTION I'M ASKING RESIDENTS IF THEY WANT TO IT AS IT IS. SO IT WOULD STILL I MEAN IT WOULD STILL CHANGE CHARTER BECAUSE IT WOULD CORRECT IT WOULD TAKE OUT ALL OUR CV LANGUAGE AND BUT I FEEL LIKE BEFORE IT WAS SOMETHING LIKE WHAT REQUIRED TWO THIRDS MAJORITY VOTE THERE WAS STUFF IN THAT SO IT DOESN'T INCLUDE THAT. SO MR. MAYOR AND COUNCILMEMBERS COUNCILMEMBER THE LANGUAGE IN THIS PETITION IS DIFFERENT THAN THE PREVIOUS ONE THE THE PETITIONERS MET WITH OUR STAFF TO UNDERSTAND WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT LANGUAGE WOULD BE APPROPRIATE SO THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE SIMILAR SITUATION TO WHAT WE HAD LAST TIME AND I THINK IN THE PAST WE HAVE BEEN ADVISED BY COURTS DURING THESE PROCEEDINGS MEETING WITH THEM IS NOT REQUIRED BUT IT'S ALWAYS A GOOD THING TO DO AND SO WE WANTED TO WORK WITH THEM ON THAT. WE THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT AND OTHER CLARIFICATIONS ON THAT MR. ROONEY ANYTHING ELSE REMINDER THAT WE HAVE SUMMERFEST ON WEDNESDAY I'M SURE SOMEBODY HERE WAS GOING TO MENTION AND THURSDAY CITY OFFICES ARE CLOSED DUE TO THE 4TH OF JULY WE ARE OPEN FOR BUSINESS ON FRIDAY JULY 5TH THE VERY GOOD COUNSEL ANYTHING TO FORWARD THIS EVENING COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO THAN COUNCILMEMBER YET THANK YOU VERY MUCH MR. MAYOR. TWO THINGS ONE I WAS GOING TO BRING UP SOME BECAUSE I WANTED TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY KNEW I'M UNFORTUNATELY NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO BE WITH YOU ALL. SO DON'T LOOK FOR ME ON THE STAGE AND WONDER WHERE I AM AS YOU ROLL IN AT THE LAST MINUTE. DWAYNE DON'T ASK WHERE LONA IS. THAT'S RIGHT. SO I APOLOGIZE. I'LL MISS IT BUT I ALWAYS ENJOY THAT SO ENJOY IT WITHOUT WITHOUT ME AND AND EVERYTHING I ALSO LAST YEAR AFTER SUMMERFETE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I KNOW I TALKED ABOUT VERY BRIEFLY WITH THE CITY MANAGER WAS YOU KNOW, THERE SEEMS TO BE INCREASE IN THE INTEREST IN FIREWORKS THERE A LOT LESS LOUD AND A LOT LESS DISTURBING TO VARIOUS CONSTITUENTS WITHIN THE CITY WHETHER TALKING ABOUT VETERANS OR YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, FOLKS WITH ANIMALS SMALL CHILDREN, FOLKS ON THE SPECTRUM THERE'S A LOT OF REASONS TO ABOUT MAKING OUR FIREWORKS QUIETER. THERE'S A PLENTY OF OPTIONS OUT THERE NOW AND I'M NOT BRINGING THIS UP FOR NOW BUT I'D LIKE US TO HAVE SOME CONVERSATIONS AT SOME POINT ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT WE'D WANT TO GIVE THAT DIRECTION TO PARKS TO LOOK INTO YOU KNOW WHAT WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE FOR US TO GO TO A DIFFERENT PRODUCT LINE TO TO CONSIDER THAT IT WOULD COST US SOME MONEY. AND THAT'S THE REASON I BRING IT UP NOW FOR YOU ALL TO CONSIDER BUT WE HAVEN'T GIVEN THE DIRECTION TO PARKS TO DO ANYTHING ABOUT THAT ONGOING COMPLAINT. I'M SURE WE'LL HEAR ABOUT IT AGAIN AFTER YOU KNOW, WEDNESDAY NIGHT. SO IT MIGHT BE IN OUR BEST INTEREST TO DO A STUDY OR SOMETHING THAT JUST AT LEAST LETS US KNOW WHAT IT WOULD COST AND WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE IF WE DID TRY TO MEET THE OBLIGATION THERE. THANKS. THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER COUNCILMEMBER. THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO SAY I HAD ALSO THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO DOWN TO ROCHESTER FOR THE LEAGUE OF MINNESOTA CITIES CONFERENCE AND THE THING I GOT OUT OF IT IS THAT WE'RE NOT ALONE IN THE ISSUES WE'RE DEALING WITH HERE IN BLOOMINGTON I WAS ABLE TO MEET WITH MANY OTHER COUNCILMEMBER AND MAYORS THROUGHOUT THE CITY OR THROUGHOUT THE STATE BIG AND SMALL AND HOUSING INFRASTRUCTURE JOBS THOSE ARE ALL THE SAME THINGS WE'RE ALL TALKING ABOUT AND HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK AND IDEAS WAS VERY, VERY VALUABLE AND I KNOW I'VE ALREADY REACHED OUT TO SOME OTHER FOLKS JUST TO TALK ABOUT THINGS THAT THEY'VE DONE THAT MAYBE WE COULD DO HERE OR SHARE WHAT THINGS THAT WE'VE DONE HERE THAT THEY COULD IMPLEMENT IN THEIR OWN COMMUNITIES AND SO VERY VALUABLE TO HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO THAT CONFERENCE AND AND CONTINUE TO SPEAK WITH PEOPLE WHO ARE INSPIRED TO AND CREATE GREAT COMMUNITIES. SO VERY GREAT OPPORTUNITY AND THANKFUL BE ABLE TO GO THERE. ABSOLUTELY. ON THE MEMORY OF US, I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE AT THE CONFERENCE ALSO I ACTUALLY DID TAKE A LOT FROM THE OTHER CITIES BUT THEY TOOK A LOT FROM WHAT WE DO HERE. AND YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF FUNNY THAT A LOT OF THE CONVERSATIONS GO ABOUT THE SAME THING AND I JUST HAPPENED TO BE SITTING AT THE SAME TABLE WITH JAMEY AND GARBAGE WAS ONE OF THE BIG SUBJECTS SO EVERY SINGLE DAY I WAS THERE SITTING WITH A GROUP OF PEOPLE THE GARBAGE CAME OUT SO IT'S FUNNY BUT I ALSO DID LEARN A LOT ABOUT SUSTAINABLE BILITY WHERE TO GET THE FUNDS FOR IT . SO THAT'S BEEN SOMETHING THAT I'VE BEEN TRYING TO LEARN A WAY TO GET THE MONEY FROM AND IT'S A LOT OUT BUT I AGAIN I'M NOT PARTICIPATING IN ANY OF THE AND I KNOW THE STAFF DOES AN AWESOME JOB ON GETTING GRANTS AND YOU KNOW FUNDS WHATEVER THEY CAN TO DO WHAT THEY HAVE TO DO. BUT IT'S A LOT IT'S A LOT OF FANS OUT THERE THAT CAN BE USED FOR WHATEVER WE PLAN TO DO IN THE CITY. THE TREE PLANTING STUFF IS JUST OUT THERE SO WHOEVER IS IN CHARGE OF THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SIT WITH THEM AND LEARN WHAT THE CITY IS DOING BECAUSE WHEN I SPOKE WHAT WE DO IT'S AMAZING THE IT FEELS GOOD TO BRAG ABOUT IT THAT WE ARE LIKE THE AT THE FRONT OF THE WHOLE THING WHEN IT COMES TO THE STATE SO IT'S KIND OF FUNNY I ALWAYS CRITICIZE THE CITY FOR NOT BEING AT THE FOREFRONT BUT IT IS WHEN YOU COMPARE IT TO EVERYBODY AT THE STATE LEVEL IT'S AMAZING HOW FAR BLOOMINGTON HAS REACHED WHEN IT COMES TO SUSTAINABILITY SO THAT'S A GOOD THING AND I DON'T DESERVE TO BE PUTTING MYSELF THE BACK THAT I DID A FEW TIMES. OKAY SO I'M HONEST BUT BUT THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THE OPPORTUNITY I IT'S REALLY NICE GO TO THESE EVENTS BECAUSE OF THE INTERACTION WITH THE OTHER COUNCILMEMBERS AND MAYORS AND CITY OFFICIALS ALL THE PLACES IS VERY BENEFICIAL FOR US TO LEARN HOW IT WORKS SOMEWHERE ELSE. SO THANK YOU AGAIN. THANKS FOR GOING COUNCILMEMBER . WOMAN SO MAYOR I WANTED TO BRING TO YOU JUST REAL QUICKLY THAT WITH OF THE STAFF REDUCTIONS WITHIN THE SUSTAINABILITY GROUP WE HAD SO REDUCTIONS IN SOME OF OUR WORK PLANS. I DIDN'T I WASN'T AT THE LAST MEETING BECAUSE I WAS OUT CAMPING AND OF THE ITEMS THAT GOT REDUCED THAT I'M A CHAMPION ON IS AROUND THE HURT PEACE. AND SO WHEN I AM LOOKING TO TRY TO DO IS SEE IF THERE IS INTEREST WE DON'T HAVE TO RESOLVE THIS TODAY YOU KNOW AMONG THE COUNCIL AND I KNOW THAT SOME FOLKS ARE OUT IN THE COMMUNITY THAT ARE IN TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, PUT TOGETHER A GROUP TO KIND OF GO OVER THOSE AND BRING BACK SOMETHING TO THIS COUNCIL AROUND THE KIND OF NEXT STEPS AROUND THAT. SO I'M JUST LOOKING FOR SOME ASSISTANCE AROUND THAT. I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT KIND OF LANDS OR WHERE THAT COULD BE BUT I'D LIKE TO I'VE GOT SOME FOLKS WHO ARE INTERESTED IN THAT BUT I WANT TO KIND OF FIGURE OUT WHAT'S THE THE PATHWAY FORWARD AND TO KIND OF DO THAT. SO I CAN'T REMEMBER ANYTHING SPECIFICALLY LIKE PACKAGING REDUCTION OR ALTERNATIVES TO HERC OR SO YEAH. SO LET ME THANK YOU FOR ASKING FOR MORE CLARITY SO THE HENNEPIN COUNTY HAD PUT TOGETHER A HERC KIND OF GROUP THAT HAD STUDIED, YOU KNOW, ITEMS AROUND, YOU KNOW, REDUCTION OF PLASTIC USE AND A NUMBER OF MITIGATING PROCESSES. AND SO WHAT THIS GROUP WOULD DO AND I'VE GOT A PROJECT PLAN THAT'S KIND OF PUT TOGETHER BUT JUST KIND OF TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE TO KIND OF , YOU KNOW, HAVE THAT LAND, IF YOU WILL, WHICH WOULD BE JUST A EITHER A WORKGROUP OR A TASK FORCE THAT WOULD KIND OF BRING SOME RECOMMENDATIONS IN TERMS OF THINGS THAT WE COULD DO. THE CITY WRIT LARGE HELP AROUND TRYING TO TO MEET THAT THAT EVENTUAL STANDARD THAT'S OUT THERE KIND OF LEADING FORWARD WITH THIS WHOLE IDEA OF THE PIECE AND TRYING TO BE PROACTIVE WITH IT. SO THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR AND COUNCILMEMBERS COUNCILMEMBER TWO THINGS FIRST, APPRECIATE YOUR SHARE AND SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSION'S WORK PLAN. THEY DID DRAW BACK A LITTLE BIT. THEY HAD AN AMBITIOUS WORK PLAN AND IT WAS AS COUNCILMEMBER LOEHMANN INDICATED, SOME OF THE STAFFING TRANSITION RIGHT NOW THEY'VE BACK TO THREE KEY AREAS THAT THEY'RE FOCUSED ON AND SO UNTIL WE GET SETTLED OVER THERE, THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO KEEP MOVING FORWARD ON THE SUSTAINABILITY EMMA STRAUSS GAVE US A LITTLE RUNDOWN ON THAT LAST WEEK AS A MATTER OF FACT WHEN SHE WAS DOWN AT THE LEAGUE OF MINNESOTA CITIES CONFERENCE PRESENTING ON THE WORK THAT BLOOMINGTON DOES WHICH WAS GOOD SO TO THE SECOND POINT IF YOU'VE GOT A LITTLE BIT OF A PROJECT MAP IT ALREADY THOUGHT OUT WE'LL TOUCH BASE AND THEN I CAN TAKE A LOOK AND SEE IF IT'S GOING TO REQUIRE ANY STAFF RESOURCE OR WHAT PROCESS YOU MIGHT WANT TO MOVE FORWARD TO TAKE A LOOK AT HOW WE PARTICIPATE IN THAT AND THEN WE CAN SHARE BACK TO THE COUNCIL I'LL FOLLOW UP WITH ON THE BACK TO YOU LATER THAT'S ANYTHING ELSE FOR THE GOOD OF THE ORDER THIS EVENING HEARING NONE. I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN TONIGHT SO WE'VE GOT A MOTION IN A SECOND TO ADJOURN THIS EVENING. NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSE MOTION CARRY SEVEN ZERO COUNCIL THANKS FOR YOUR WORK TONIGHT WELL DONE GOOD JOB STAFF AND THANKS TO ONCE AGAIN ALL THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY WHO PARTICIPATED TONIGHT WELL THEN THANK YOU VERY MUCH EVERYBODY ENJOY THE FOURTH