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Sun Metro and the mo and really is you know to coordinate the planning and and other activities uh between the the entities so as a result of of uh uh discussing that item South Central requested to have more of a role in in within the mo so we agreed that uh that giving them a a seat in the TAC in the in our technical committee uh would be the appropriate thing to do and and they all agreed so we ran the idea of adding Tac uh adding South Central to Tac um through the TAC itself and they recommended that they thought it was a good idea we ran it through the executive committee given that we need to amend the bylaws so that's the reason for item number five to amend the bylaws to add South Central to the Teek the other item which is part of of number five is just striking one sentence in paragraph number three that was confusing uh that that is in your backup so unless you have any any actions you know we recommend U approval of items five and six discussion second uh any uh all in favor any opposed motion's pass all right item number seven consider approval of amendments to the RMS 2050 MTP and RMS 2023 2026 tip to program Transit projects from South Central Regional Transit District a program the preventive maintenance fiscal year 24 5307 project using FDA 5307 funds in fiscal year 2024 B program the pavement resurfacing fiscal year 24 5307 project using FDA 5307 funds in fisal year 2024 C program the jar fisal year 24 5307 project using FTA 5307 funds in fiscal year 2024 D program the operating assistance fiscal year 24 5307 project using FTA 5307 funds in fiscal year 2024 e program the maintenance facility equipment fiscal year 24 5307 project using FDA 5307 fund in fiscal year 2024 and F program the security fencing fiscal year 24537 project using FDA 5307 funds in fiscal year 2024 again these are pretty straightforward um additions to the tip all related to uh to South Central 5307 funds uh we have we're ready to give you a brief presentation if if you so desire we have a motion so Move Motion we have a second uh all in favor I opposed motion passes all right moving to item number eight considering authorizing the executive director to execute task ORD number three with the El Paso no General planning consultant for development of a regional Safety Action Plan for an amount not to exceed 7298 18856 again as background uh this is we're finally getting getting close to initiating the Safety Action Plan development which is the the grant that we received more than a year ago from from the ss4a program so uh last month we brought to you or maybe a couple months ago the all the series of agreements between the mo Federal Highway and also the agreements to acquire the the match with the uh with the the RMA and again thank you so much to the county for for providing the the match to to the uh to the Federal Grant so this is a final step to issue the task order to the consultant so they can actually begin the the work uh the task order is in in your backup and if you have any questions I'll happy to answer question motion motion to approve we have a second okay all in favor any opposed motion passes all right item number nine is consider approval of the Second Amendment to the El Paso fiscal year 2024 2025 unified planning work program upw to add reference to the San liso Transportation needs assessment project and to add tcq writer 7 funding to funding summary tables and subas descriptions as applicable again these are just uh amendments to the upw to to reflect the uh the the fact that siso was awarded by this board about a yeah about a year ago $400,000 to to do a A needs assessment study that's already programmed in the tip and so on but but again we got the the the request from Federal Highway to add it to our upw because it really is part of our planning activities so you know we're happy to to do that and and the the last one was as you know as we presented uh before the the grants that we received from a tcq rer 7 program for ozone and for PM 2.5 that's additional funds so we need to incorporate that into our upw as well so all the information is in your backup so happy to answer any questions any questions we have a motion we have a motion we have a second all in favor I any opposed motion passes right all right item number 10 consideration of documents associated with the writer 7 Local air quality statement of work under Texas commission of Environmental Quality tcq contract uh number 58220 111 979 items a b and c and before I read them into the record just to let you know that we were requesting to table item C that's not ready for action so we'll bring that to you uh next month so item uh 10A is consider approval of task order number two between El Paso NPO and TTI for the purchase of cameras for vehicle counting in sades and monitoring through machine learning technology B consider approval of task order number three between El Paso noo and TTI for improving Regional emission estimation tools again the information is in your backup but uh these two items are actual task orders that we are issuing to our our uh consultants and and the team that's actually going to do the work um we are still missing two more that we'll bring to you next month uh the one for urban Sim that that is uh doing a the land use modeling on the H side and also the U The Lending agreement which is item number c with with kle Laona because they're going to be actually taking our equipment and using it in quades to collect accounts so uh so we're just asking right now to uh approval for for the the two task cours with TTI and we have again a presentation on this if you care to hear more details discussion questions a motion Mo second we have a motion we have a second all in favor any opposed motion passes so that's done with our action items um this point I think we need to uh we need a motion to move into executive session uh SEO to discuss items uh one and executive item number two if if water we read those items and tell the record just is of the record okay all right so the items for executive session item number one executive director's annual performance assessment for year 2023 including review and discussion of the executive director's self-performance assessment for year 2023 and item two executive director's employment agreement and uh chair just also for the record the board would be moving into executive session pursuant to the government code provision uh 551.074 which allows executive session for the discussion of personnel matters so now you just need a motion we have a motion we have a second second all in favor yeah all in favor any any opposed session we'll just wait a few minutes through the roof e e e e e e for e e e e e e e e e for e e e for for for for e e e e e for e e e for e e for e e e e e for e e for e e for e e e e for e e for e e for e e for for e e e e e e e e e e e for e e e e e for e e for e for e e e e just um it's uh we need a motion Mo to reconvene into the regular session second it's 10:24 we have a motion and a second to reconvene out of executive session um okay consideration of uh item 10 you want so now that we're back in Open Session and there's been a motion made to come out of executive session 1025 uh the motion uh for the executive item number one uh is a motion to approve the executive director's annual performance assessment for year 2023 as submitted by the executive director second we have a motion we have a second all in favor I any opposed motion passes uh the next motion uh chair uh coming out of the executive session is on item number two and a proposed motion on that would be to approve renewing the executive director's employment agreement for a one-year period we have a motion we have a second uh uh everyone uh I'm sorry uh we have a motion we have a second U all in favor any you opposed motion passes and the third motion uh coming out of executive session uh and uh representative or do do you want to make that motion absolutely do you have the link it would be and I can read a proposed motion for you to make uh proposed motion to increase the executive director's base salary by 3% soov a motion we have a second um all in favor any opposed no two Nays motion passes you can now move on to your uh reports in all right thank you very much all right moving on to reports and discussion um item number 11 update on on the tax thatal pass a district Mobility projects funding proposal for inclusion in the fiscal year 2025 unified Transportation program so uh we have theas trino here as a presenter but uh I'll just make some some brief uh comments on this uh this is related to the the uh proposal that was submitted and approved well approved by the board and submitted to text that last month regarding the uh the the funding uh of our projects our priority projects so there there's been some some adjustments here uh the district came back and and did some uh re revisions to the cost estimate for downtown 10 and they feel that that with a little bit less uh funding we can still do what what we intended well what the district and and the no intends to do which is uh do phase one of the downtown 10 project and at the same time continue with the funding for phase two of the Borderland expressway so there are some just some adjustments on that and um so you know it's just to let you all know that that this is that this is what what's coming on question any questions so happy to answer thank you all right item number 12 is update on tex. Highway emergency response operator HERO program and here we have a tag team Eddie Perales and Rolo from Tech uh good morning everybody uh my name is Rudy Pino I'm uh Transportation engineer with the Texas Department of Transportation so today I'm here to talk to you all about our HERO program let give you a status and update on the program and just remind everybody how great the program is I don't know if we can pull up the PowerPoint right so we're going to go just quickly we're going to show a video so it's about a minute long a little bit more than a minute and then we'll go into um some of the public Outreach that we've received about the program and some going into some of the hero uh St STS and uh highlights and then we'll wrap it up with u some of the budget of the program and what's next here's a video while many people are usually having lunch at noon members of the tech hero team are busy preparing their trucks testing out equipment and making sure all is in check for their afternoon shift on our roadways the roadside Champions roll out in their patro units equipped and ready to assist a stranded motorist and First Responders on and emergencies every day the tex. El Paso District launched the highly emergency response operator program back in June of 2020 it's aimed at improving safety for stranded motorists and First Responders the program has its own dispatchers and receives additional vigilance from our team at the trans Vista Center who keep watch via our camera system the El Paso hero fleet has also been instrumental in severe weather response and critical to emergency responders the heroes unit is an invaluable asset for the AL Pas Police Department providing crucial support in ensuring the safety of police officers during their investigations of traffic crashes at the interstate hero vehicles are equipped with digital message signs and cameras that can send live images back to help help with Incident Management by reducing the risk of secondary crashes through its efforts the program helps to make El Paso roadways a safer place to travel stranded motorists can call 790 hero or 4376 for assistance you'll want to save that number okay so I just wanted to talk about the public Outreach or the public uh feedback we get for the program it's a really great program you know we have uh different platforms that available to get these uh comments um Facebook Instagram um Twitter or X um so I just wanted to give you an an overview of the kind of comments that we get for the program I'm gonna walk over there because I can't see the screen gentlemen right here just when I thought it was all dark I saw flashing lights of Hope it was the most efficient stressfree roadside tire change I've ever experienced extremely great for the HERO program more than just a roadside assistant operator he is a true hero our insurance was going to take about two hours for him to get get some help amazing hero definitely saved our day literally Angels on the road I aspire to be a hero when I grow up thank you real life Heroes see this is good taxpayer money well spent and they are gods and really are heroes so I mean we get hundreds of these comments I mean they're all positive I don't think we have any other program that has these type of comments so and I I think it's because you know when whenever you break down or you're stranded on a highpe speed you know access controlled Highway when you have vehicles going at 60 70 miles per hour right next to you it's it's a scary situation people don't know what to do they panic and it's understandable and so when you see the hero truck pull up behind you with the lights all the equipment they need and they come and they help you and it's free of charge I mean that's it's easy to see how how these guys are are seen as Heroes I mean you got to think about maybe your mom or your dad out there being stranded or your grandparents or even your teenagers um you know I have a teenage son and just recently we reviewed a crash on Lop 375 where a young lady ran out of gas and pulled over on the left shoulder of Lop 375 near the Scot area and she was hit by a drunk driver I mean I don't even want to think about that I mean that's my 17-year-old is just learning how to drive right now so having this program in place and available I think the public expects to have it there and you know and they just really love and appreciate it so just uh some quick stats on the on the program our operating hours uh we work uh Monday through Friday 5: to 9: and then we're also on Saturdays from 9 a.m. to 9:00 p.m. uh we do uh Patrol three corridors currently I 10 from Trans Mountain to um sorry pretty much the entire route and to 375 [Music] uh some some information on the on the program uh our fleet has uh 14 service trucks we have two tow trucks and 12 full-time drivers supervisors and two Dispatchers in our TMC at trans Vista and one manager currently there's two shifts on uh Monday through Friday two eight hour shifts 5 to one and then 1: pm. to 9M we have five trucks in each shift and one tow truck with one dispatcher in the TMC on satday we only have one shift 9:00 a.m. to 9:00 p.m. and we have two trucks and one tow truck and one dispatcher on the right there you can see some of the services that we're providing you know well we tow trucks to the nearest safest location you know if you run out of gas we have that you know if if you have a flat tire we can service your change your tire for you and we can also clear debris now here we launched the the pro the HERO program back in June of 2020 as you can see before that you know Texa could only assist between five to 6,000 incidents per year and as soon as uh we launched the program that almost tripled they went up to 20,000 incidents that we were able to get out there and assist uh during incidents um then we uh we went ahead and and increased our uh hours to include Saturday and Sundays and when we did that it's about 10% of the incidents occur on Saturday and Sunday and then our our trans Vista Center or TMC they expanded their hours at 24/7 and today we've uh assisted in over 85,000 incidents um this Inception of the program now this is some stats on Saturday and Sunday on the weekend um again you know where for um as far as Services I'm sorry far Services you know we've done about 13% of the services on Saturday and Sunday and again about 10% total incid on the weekend one thing want to on this is clear debris um you know that's that's a big deal like on the weekend if nobody's out there to clear that debris I mean that could cause a secondary crash if somebody drops a ladder they drop a tire there's some kind of debris out there and you know you know the last thing you want is a citizen jumping out into the main Lanes of it 10 to try to retrieve some item you know we really need the heroes the heroes get out there they have the truck they have the flashing lights they have the traffic control to safely remove this debris and I think that's that in itself is is is a big benefit of having the heroes available on the weekends so this is all the services that the the top 10 services that um the heroes provide the number one service they provide is is um you know protection from the scene for PD I mean you saw PD on the video I mean they really love the HERO program I mean sometimes the heroes get out there before PD does and they set up to TCP they give give PD a safe area to work here you can see a truck one of the hero trucks setting up uh traffic control for PD to do the what they need to do here's another uh another image of that here you can see somebody's stranded um the heroes are changing the tire you know they have all the equipment I mean how long does it take us to change a tire you know they can get it in there they have the automatic gun they can remove the tire put a new one and get you on on your way a lot faster the longer they're out there the higher the the danger of them being out there you can see here the the truck is parked you see all the traffic control and it's right next to the travel Lane you could imagine trying to change the tire yourself I mean that would be pretty scary thing to do okay so it's really difficult to quantify the good the HERO program does from a safety perspective um we we looked at all the crashes that we've had on these three roadways I 10 L 375 us54 and those are the yearly crashes um as you can see they are trending downward the 2020 was the covid year so it's the outlining year where we had less crashes um but it is trending slightly downward and then we looked at crashes uh with part involving Park cars on these three corridors and again that is also trending downward now when you consider that um the ADT on these three roadways has gone up 14% in the since 2016 yet you know the crashes haven't gone up 14% so I call that a small win um the other thing too we we did look at uh all the fatal crashes in the last three years on these three roadways that involved the stall car par car and we found eight fatal crashes that occurred and they all occurred outside the hours of the HERO program and now does that saying the HERO program would have made a difference I don't know but it might have you know helped the situation but unfortunately they weren't they weren't available during those hours so I know in the video you saw a hero truck driving through a flooded area so whenever we have um you know these weather events we get everyone involved you know and so having the heroes available during these events is is a an added benefit I mean they have a tow truck they can clear the roadway our our priority is to get all tier one roadways open and operation as fast as possible all our Hospital routes and so having the heroes available is another benefit and then finally or one of the latest highlights is we did move the headquarters of the heroes they were initially staged there at our headquarters there off of Gateway West uh between the Americas interchange in Eastlake uh it was easy to put them in there we had a tow truck program in the past so they just moved in there how is not very centralized or located in this new location on 200 North Clark we had this this location we renovated it we added some parking to it and that's where they house now very centralized location and I think it works better for them uh and then some some status on on the program the original contract was executed in June of 2020 that's when the boot H the ground it's 2-year contract contct with two years uh extensions uh the contract ended in March of 2024 So currently we're trying to procure a new contract um you know we extended the original one to August of 2024 we we feel like we'll have this contract um in the new contract in place by August so there shouldn't be any break in service so the average cost in 2023 of the program is about 225,000 per month uh a yearly cost of between $2.5 to3 million right now now of course that's much higher than the original program but we did expand the hours of the heroes and we also included now weekends so again identify needs these are the current hours that we're operating but we really want to go to 247 that's our future goal and also we would like to extend our routes we would like to extend I10 and us54 all the way to the state line into the the county line and we would like to include some roadways we don't currently uh Patrol on a regular basis like spur 601 the new freeway section under construction on Montana um and Artcraft so that's all I have for you guys I have a question all this is all text. funded [Music] correct yeah this is coming comes out of category seven which one one you want to yeah so the uh in in the tip and I was asking an for the details um the board has approved uh funding this with uh I think it's one year of category 7 yeah um we the the funding for this has been approved for category 10 CRP funding for 2025 and then um per the ad hoc committee that we set up to uh program the uh CRP funds uh and you're going to see this in the November uh stiff revision we've uh uh there's going to be a recommendation coming forward to do um two of the remaining years in the next tip with CRP with 2027 I believe it is uh coming out of category 7 so cat 7 is what's available to everyone it seems like this would be a safety program is there any possibility of getting this funded out of category six or I mean category eight or well let let me answer yet from a safety perspective this is a really really good program yeah it's a really good program and and U you know when I was part of the the Statewide uh safety task force along with a few mpos and and several uh districts um throughout the state you know there's consensus that this program is really really good not just for congestion relief and assisting you know motorists and and so on but from a safety perspective it's really good now as far as as qualifying for some of the safety funds for um for you know from tex. or federal funds for that I'm not sure if that's eligible for it no it's not uh definitely at this time it's not well you want category so we call category a safety the mic thank you all right hello Ardo Bales than you so what we call category 8 is safety funds has uh two types of funding categories one is where we look at and they got to have crashes related to an actual uh event that happened in this case like we talked about it's very hard to measure because they're usually assisting a scene and it's not that they could have actually contributed to the safety of the traveling roadway so at this time they're still evaluating it they hadn't gotten approved any district for any type of uh safety funds one of the things that did get approved on the ada8 legislative was um branding uh we're still evaluating and rules that we're going to have to look at the transportation code and see how we're going to incorporate those type of branding uh from the local government as well uh San anonio has category 7 Category 5 and local governments to their program which is very similar to the one we have here in op Paso yes my point being this seems to be a very successful Statewide program and one of the Tex Dot's major concerns is safety and yet we're continue to fund this local and is there a little is there any effort could we put any effort to get this funded the local funds are split between all right I mean well I mean this is a discussion that we can have but uh but we have recommended this because when it comes to safety it really is I agree totally and and you know this this program you know benefits everybody right this is not benefiting you know specifically or exclusively Tex do right this is for all the people that use you know the freeways right I 10 54 375 and so on so so you know we have recommended this um and we feel comfortable recommending this because it really you know helps everybody right right if it was something that that would exclusively benefit you know tax do then it would be a different discussion I think but you know we we have to see it well our recommendation has always been to see it more this is a a regional a regional benefit to all of us I just my my point is we're having to sh we're having to take this out of local money and I think it should come out of state well we and and again checking with with an um initially the request that we got from the district was to fund it with category 7 and as you were saying and you know we all know that category 7 is you know these are precious dollars that we can use on and off system and and they're very flexible but we were able to to work out with a new uh uh carbon Reduction Program funds a new category and and be able to to use those new funds to fund this so that we can free up or not use our category 7 but again it's a it's a you know obviously a discussion that that we can have how many Appropriations how many other uh communities have this program how many other cities well within the state um in Texas the same program like this funded through the npos and local governments we have Austin San Antonio and us and Houston Houston does it a little bit different they get a lot of funding from the local governments and they run 247 operations and San Antonio as well so right now it's four or districts has does the state take that into account when they're funding the various categories of the UTP the communities that have the safety program have they has that been raised to them to to consider that like L mentioned I think it's being considered at this time um they're looking at how we can incorporate into the safety funds from the federal government but it's it's still not not there I mean we don't we don't get any funding from from safety any safety dollars to for the program they expect I guess the expectation is to work with a local governments and because it is a community like likeo mentioned program other than that we do have the 8020 split 20% for Tech do and then they need a champion to manage the program and just I me again we even provide uh the building for them and everything so that's that's kind of the share we're putting right now but they're still looking at that so that that ask needs to be emphasized to to the Commission in order to have them recognize their goal has always been safety for a number of of years now and I think it's important for them to be aware in terms of where the funding is coming and how necessary it is and and the urban communities especially so it's yeah it would be great if if there was more State funding because it doesn't make sense for us to use our precious local dollars uh when it should be the state responsibility on ending the the streak as they say of of uh accidents deaths in the state of Texas correct so something that I think needs to be worked on yes ma'am are these tex. employees and tex. vehicles or do you contract with another company it's a contract it's a contract and then we manage through through our employees uh from from our office uh we have several employees that dedicated to the program in terms of funding and just managing the overall operations but mostly it's a contract all the fleet comes from the contract that it's awarded contractor in all the big cities or is it all different currently it is for San Antonio and Austin and El Paso and then Houston no but we're still trying to look at it as well to see if they could get the program running one thing that that I do know as part as working with that Statewide commit uh committee um Dallas Fort Worth has a very very complete comprehensive program but they have you know like like two three or four different programs and even telephone numbers right and one of the things that they're trying to do is consolidate that and also at at the state level right you know because um have some type of a of a Statewide number like you know 511 or 611 or something like that so that it's it's a lot easier for uh for you know motorists to remember that uh in the case I think it's Dallas Fort where they have you depends on where what region within that that uh that area they have different telephone numbers and different providers and it's not called a hero program it's called something else and and all that but the effort at the state level is really trying to Rebrand it and make it consistent so that you know regardless where you are you know what number to call but yeah but but you know the contracts are are by you know region by region right um I think that they were also looking at at at some point of trying to get a Statewide contract to see if there's some economies of scale but uh but so far I think the contracts are just local right to Mayor Miller's point has there been in in these discussions has there been a push or a conversation about tapping into category six funding or and and what what is the feedback that youall are getting from that as a matter of fact when they came down probably last yearo about creating the vision zero for the working for the with the npos as well I believe it was discussed I wasn't part of those discussions but it's Statewide like like I said they are evaluating they are looking at it uh they just haven't found a way to how can I say this measure uh any type of crashes as uh maybe clearing the lanes is one one that fhwa really looks at the clearing of the lane so that's one of the reasons but our traffic division is definitely working with our commissioners and everything and trying to incorporate this program with safety dollars yeah representative orga's point I mean um the commission you know their priority is of course safety on our roadways um and these are State roadways too I mean one thing if there you know we were doing like a Citywide thing or countywide thing but these are state so just it's hard to compute I guess how we can't justify safety dollars but anyway that's another discussion and one more thing and you know earlier the board approved the task order to start the safety action plan which is a regional plan so one of the things that that we will do as part of that that work is you know identify other you know potential funding sources for for all of the different actions you know we will our task under the the grant is to develop a plan and based on the plan then you know we will peel off in individual um implementation acts but obviously implementation comes with funding but yeah I mean these are ongoing discussions that come at at the state level and and and I I don't disagree with the discussion right you know yeah tax do says that safety is our number one priority and yet when you look at the how the the allocation of funds for safety categories great it's sometimes it's not that consistent but um any other questions all right thank Youk you item 13 all right so item 13 is discussion of the trianal amendment to the El Paso M public participation plan and we have an gante with a brief presentation good morning so the purpose of this presentation is to uh do a couple of things one is to inform you of the upcoming update to our public participation plan which uh we are required to do once every three years um explain what's in our plan now a couple areas where staff recommends that we uh make amendments to the document but then also to see if there are additional things once we go through it that um that you also feel uh we should include um now it's you know we've been sitting here a while I'm going to keep this this pretty brief um but if we could get the the slides pleas all right next all right so here is the background information about just what this document is which is it contains the uh the um the adoption public process the document Amendment public process and then also it lists how we engage with the public in kind of our one-way and our two-way uh media for public engagement um so what we're going to do this uh this morning is we're going to walk through it a little bit at a very high level there's going to be the the full text or very very slight uh slightly condensed text of each of the areas on the presentation but I'm not going to necessarily read it to you I'm just going to go over this kind of talks about this and here's the high points um and this we're we're having this presentation today because this plan was last amended in 2021 it's 2024 so it's time to do it again all right next slide so if you want to read the entire thing you can find it on our website probably easiest way to do that is under the get involved tab it's under public participation plan uh this so as I I already kind of went over what's in it but that's the that's the list specifically so we're going to go over a few of these things today we're going to skip um what the mo is because that's probably going to remain consistent we're going to skip the federal regulations that were required to cover within the plan that's something that we have separately vetted make sure we're still current we're going to focus um briefly on uh goals and principles we're going to walk through our adoption and Amendment processes and we're going to just kind of go through very briefly um the various ways in which we reach out to the public all right next slide please so this right now is a statement of our goals this is saying when we involve the public why it's important and what and the things that we should take into consideration when we do that um it's kind of a wall of text but it is very important and critical to decision making on subject matter that affects as many people's daily lives as Transportation does it's very important that we uh that we make our decisions not only with subject matter experts but also with the people who are impacted by those decisions and that is what our what this generally States all right next slide please these are our principles these are going to be a little bit more of a of a bullet list of just um what's important to take into consideration as we uh as we engage in uh in our public involvement Endeavors next slide please so this is a list document by document explaining very briefly what each one is what it does and how long uh we need to keep our public involvement period open prior to the adoption of each document just what how long each public comment period needs to be um generally speaking we range between 30 days and 45 days those are a couple where it just says either regularly or in the case of our annual listing of obligated projects we just have to make that list publicly available within 90 days of the end of the year so on this slide we have uh several of our major documents and uh most of these are a 30-day public involvement window next slide and then so here are more of our documents so we and this this covers everything we do this covers the two documents where we are deciding on what projects to pursue as a region and when this just these cover just the planning activities the things that staff is going to do um each fiscal year this covers our uh Transportation Conformity and congestion management plan uh Endeavors and also the public participation plan itself is on the slide what's notable is a public participation plan is a 45-day public comment period as opposed to most other things which uh which have the 30-day and we anticipate for this uh the the uh 2024 public participation plan we're we're planning to run that public comment period between uh July and uh and August of this year um all right next slide please all right so that covers adoption that covers when we have a brand new document like the uh 2025 to 2020 uh8 tip that we have just uh brought through the process this is when we have existing documents that between their required updates uh have have changes uh you see these pretty much every meeting in terms of the tip in the MTP just a project has changed it's money it's year Etc it needs to come for the board for its approval so we organize within the public participation plan uh tiers of amendment so the ones that you guys see generally speaking that's going to be tier one primary amendments these are things that require uh formal action for the board in order to make that change uh these are generally going to be uh content changes to to projects and to documents tier two is going to be content also but it's going to be more minor we're going to get into in the following slides just what the current thresholds are for each but like a tier one change would be something is moving into the tip years when it wasn't before or it's a brand new project getting added and a tier two change would be it was in 2025 now it's in 2026 or um it's control number changed you know something something like that tier three is our grammatical and format uh tier we're not going to necessarily go over that today we can certainly bring it back if you wish but this is you know if we discover a typo that needs to get fixed within the document that's the procedures governing how that's going to work and it's administrative so right now we do not differentiate within the plan uh the criteria and and process for any of the following documents so this is for the MTP for the tip for the unit for the uh planning work program for the congestion management plan or for the PPP um so right now it's uniform criteria for everything all right next slide please and that's something to kind of keep in mind as we discuss the um the criteria and the proposed changes that that staff recommends okay and so these are the formal criteria um they just the thesis statement here is they are the criteria are Project based and they represent uh more significant changes and this is the list of them and then um next slide please these are going to be the uh tier 2 changes these are going to be things that are you know project increase but only by a or the funding for a project increase but only by a little bit like something like that and then um next slide please so this here is what staff recommends uh uh changing in the next version so for one thing we do recommend differentiating uh criteria between the different types of documents um all of the criteria right now pretty much are Project based but we have documents that are not Project based like our public participation plan like our unified planning work program and it can be a little tricky to figure out how to apply you know uh the Project based criteria to those documents so we do recommend creating separate criteria that apply to the different types of documents so that it's clearer to tell what level of of change reaches which threshold um we also in certain cases note that the language a is a little bit subjective and so maybe making it a little bit clearer or if it's based on a uh federal or state rule to spell that out within this plan um and then one thing that we kind of wanted to see if there was an appetite for and we're happy to to go either way on that but we don't currently have um a consent agenda for TAC or for TPB and if there were items that uh this body wanted to maybe routinely see as consent and just pull off when something seemed particularly interesting or controversial um that is something that we can also create procedures for within our public participation plan for instance letters of support um or uh you know changes to appendix D of the tip which is the one where we say projects that are coming in future beyond the tip years and just changes to that um so those are basically that's what we had uh noted thus far as things we would like to pursue as changes in the amendment and then uh if we move on the next the following uh slides just focus on the various ways in which we reach out to people and we only really have one change to those which is on our social media we have an Instagram our public participation plan doesn't list our Instagram um and we have uh two slides that are within your backup that explain when we have a public meeting what we need to take into consideration um in order just for the venue things like Ada concerns for just making sure that we're taking consideration to get as wide a variety of the public able to participate in our document review as possible um we if if you guys have interest in see those I'm happy to share with you but I know that you guys have been sitting here for quite a while so if you don't want to line by line all of the various things that are kind of um you know spelled out in the slides and in the plan Happy to Skip send them via Instagram if you don't mind there we go we have a question on the threshold are you does that mean it doesn't say 30 day required and you want to put it in or what do you mean by that would mean more like like um for for things where we want to just make the language clearer right now the category or uh for for a tier one Amendment it says like a significant increase in funding and we do have rules that we follow that Define what significant means but if you're trying to find that out real quick and this is the first place you look it does not have it of dollar thresholds yeah dollars or percentages things like that um and we also just because like if we want to add something to the upw and it requires a change in task language it's really difficult to apply you know the project limits are changing the project scope is changing it's really really difficult to apply those criteria to figure out how we need to amend our task based plan as opposed to our project based plan so we want to create just okay what sort of changes to the upw itself would trigger a major Amendment as opposed to a minor one n this um is this only for for public participation component or is this will this change your recommendations also impact the way items are being proposed to this body because is this like only at the TAC level this would be both for TAC and TPB this is just when when we when when someone brings forward a change like in the case of the tip or the MTP that would be an entity reaching out to us to say we're adding a project we're changing a project etc for upw it would be become aware of another funding source another task that needs to be completed um for the uh Conformity report it would follow an MTP Amendment where you know capacity was changing so this is basically saying what sorts of change just as time progresses and as you know we become aware that what's in our existing documents isn't necessarily the most current and up to date um when do we bring it back to you guys um when do we just do it as an administrative Amendment it's not necessarily what do we base the criteria for our recommendation on but just when do we know um that we need to bring it to you so that you can vote on on what we're doing as a region yeah and I and the reason why I asked is because there's been several items that come here that haven't gone to Tac okay so and I think that's you know problematic because it's like well what was tac's recommendation and like it came straight to you so I think um I think that is a conversation we need to have but I think that we need to stay true because we often have these conversations and then Pac never gets an opportunity to review and so if we're going to put together that criteria then we need to stick to it is my point because we have these conversations pass and we don't stick to it yeah and generally when that happens it's because we've become aware of a change that a local entity wants to make quickly and in order to get on the next quarterly Amendment cycle or something uh it would create problems with the timeline if we were to wait until the next month's teac there it would be totally get that so be addressed in this document otherwise we just are violating our own policies um and and so that that was my only question is that anytime it's related to funding and a project within someone's jurisdiction whichever it is there should be a Tac recommendation and should come back to TVP if it you could put a threshold of an amount yeah Amendment it's not it should be on the consent agenda otherwise and that's you know the way we see it on city council if it goes over a certain amount it needs to come to city council for approval um and if there's questions that we have to ask and you pull it from from the consent and yeah as opposed to but having those criteria that triggers it to go to the regular J yeah and right now we don't have we only have regular we don't have consent yet but if there was a certain thing it's like yes technically it exceeds the threshold but we don't necessarily feel that we need a presentation on it and then it can get pulled off consent you know same same as items that go before Council because there is a particular need to discuss or or one of the board members does want to see the presentation and want to have um an individual discussion on that particular uh item I would just like to see the plan yeah absolutely if I can just clarify a little bit on you know most I shouldn't say most but all items related to to to the tip amendments and all that go to Tac it's only very few that don't uh I think you know some of the questions that that we had in a couple meetings ago about the task ORD for the consults and all that you know we'll be more than happy to take them to to Tek as well but just one one more comment about the public par participation plan um what we're trying to do here is also be consistent but at the same time balance um practicality expediency with you know transparency and making sure that we're doing the right thing in terms of informing the thing about uh administrative amendments to the tip you know that's one typical thing there are certain things that we can do for example move a project from one year to another within the tip years that we could do an administrative Amendment without having to do anything and in fact you know technically not even informing the board right but I don't think that's that's appropriate changing years is you know could have some implications as well on funding and so on so that's why we've been trying to do to bring these administrative amendments reports to the board um you know on a regular basis or maybe what we need to do if if this if it's uh necessary to you know be on the safe side and and bring all amendments to the board make sure that the board is informed and vote on them even if technically we could do them as administrative amendments so it's you know it's it's one of the the balancing acts that that we that we have to to to play with I guess I'm I'm not understanding so this public participation plan applies to this board no it applies to the to the mo in general how how we do our public participation plan as an noo right so you know for example whether you bring it to us or not is considered public participant you don't separate document of standard and operating procedure this is it so okay right but at the same time and I was going to bring that up um there are some things that may not necessarily need to be identified in in the public participation plan to that level of detail but we can agree to have them of standard operating procedures for the no right so but you don't right now have aop separate no but it's it's one of the things that we are looking in the immediate future to to start not just for this but in general having a list of of Sops of standard operating procedures or everything that the no does so this is this is the public participation plan is a federal requirement so we need to have a a triple P right that an odd name for when we don't get any questions thank you all right so uh the last item is the executive director's report I just have a couple of things to report to you all um where are we okay so uh we have had the the we've been invited actually and we're very happy to participate with a couple of initiatives on the New Mexico side uh donana County started their own Safe Streets for all um uh program to also develop a a safety action plan so of course there's overlap between because the no area covers some areas of of uh donana County as well so they're starting theirs we're going to start ours and and that that's great that that we have that coordination um also the um the regional infrastructure accelerator project that donana County was awarded a grant to develop this uh we had a kickoff meeting with our consultant team as well well and you know more we're more than happy to help with um a lot of the modeling um that we have developed here to to help with you know looking at at how donana County can can um you know improve the the economic development opportunities for them so so that was one of the great things um not listed here but also wanted to mention that we also participate with the city of Al Pas in the kick up for the new uh uh master plan for the city again with the urban Sim Land Use model that we have developed that we' we've been U well developing with the tcq rider 7 um we offered that along with our other travel demand models and so on to help the city with developing the the plan so excited to be able to use our tools for uh to help with the planning for the region um the next thing the the Texas Transportation Commission meeting of last month uh several of us were were there and thanks for for those that that particip at it thanks to the chamber as well for coordinating um the several people going to provide comments um specifically I was there also to to uh speak in favor of the village of vinton's Si loan application for their Valley Chile uh project which is again one of the the really cool um you know coordination efforts that we have here in the in the in the region and and I emphasize that to the to the uh to the commission you know typically we go out there and we talk about our multi-million dollar projects and you know the hundreds of millions of dollars of project and so on but this is you know a project that is about n or to10 million for the village of Vinton the mo is contributing seven for the roadway improvements they combined it also with another Grant to provide a uh water and and sewage uh uh services for the community so it's going to be all tied into one project wonderful coordination with the county uh the RMA the no providing the funding so so I wanted to highlight that to the commission and and of course then we we talked to to the commission about the fiscal year 25 UTP um and all that and um and again just to let you know that we did submit the the application for the Mega Grant um uh the no and tex that going in as co-applicants that application was uh submitted before the May 6 deadline I believe it was and um important that close to 75 letters of support were collected for that for that effort so great uh another example really good coordination here locally and for the regional amount requested I'm sorry total amount requested the total amount was 7 20 some million I I'll give you the the exact number different from last year uh for this application the the the cost estimate the total construction cost estimate was updated and I don't know Raul if you have the numbers on the top of your head 7439 million 743 but I think it was more than 80 letters now in total yeah yeah so when we submitted this yeah but we we got between the the ones that were collected by the chamber uh the delegation and individual um members of different local governments as well yeah it's over 80 743 was the amount request and what did you say the construction cost the new construction the total construction cost is $1.2 billion in change and again we can give you the the exact well the numbers that were included in The Proposal with the caveat that this is still you know the taat is still working on the schematic and but this is a more realistic estimate than the 750 million that we've been talking about in the past get and that's all I have happy to answer any questions you have any I just wanted to say thank you for all of your hard work and um you're going up in the next year so we didn't really have a lot of discussion but you're doing a great job and I look forward to working with you and next thank you thank you very much and thank you again for the uh for the my personal stuff thank you any other questions we don't have far Marisol can we for for for for for e e for for for for for for