This transcript features **Mayor Jim Michalski** presiding over the meeting, with reports from City Superintendent **Phil Entner**, City Engineer **Matt Bolf** (from SEH), City Administrator **Ellissa "Katie" Owens**, and Interim Police Chief **Aaron Ingraham**. [0:00] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: i'd like to call meeting the order this is a regular meeting moose lake city council for wednesday july 8 2020 and i'd like to start with the pledge of allegiance please i pledge allegiance to the flag of the united states of america and through the republic for which it stands one nation under god indivisible with liberty and justice for all we welcome all our guests here today thank you for coming first item uh is the approval agenda i do have uh some additions to make under consent agenda 2a [0:50] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: 100 minutes like to add the may 13 regular meeting of the moose lake city council [1:03] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: and under may 27 a special meeting louis lake city council then moving down into six e under new business you put a line through that second street infiltration pond and put pd in this administrative position [1:37] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: then also under new business 6g atv complaints [1:50] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: and under 6h water in the park and walter will explain that and we'll get to have any other changes or additions of the agenda hearing that a motion to accept the agenda [2:00] **Council Member Walter Lower III**: second [2:03] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: second it's all in favor say aye opposed moving on number two consent agenda um under minutes it's the two that we just added the may 13th and the may you have any questions or comments on [2:39] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: the minutes and if you need time to read through them in a few minutes there is a wait for a motion all in favor say aye all right oppose motion carried under consent agenda 2b we have financial reports number one the city council table for june 2020 number two the financial city financial statements for june 2020. and number three the liquor store profit loss statement for june 2020. any comments or questions [3:33] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: are you done do i have a motion to accept the financial reports for the second [3:37] **Council Member Lou Ohly**: second [3:39] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: thank you all in favor say aye and oppose move now to number three this is public comment this time is reserved for comments from the public on matters not listened on the agenda please keep comments in three minutes also i should tell everybody the air conditioner for this room is out so it's warm [4:23] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: that's why it's water do you have one do you want a hot [4:38] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: so hearing none we'll move on to department reports for the police chief department report for june 2020 all right um aaron could you uh please yeah mike thanks all right [4:55] **Aaron Ingraham (Interim Police Chief)**: after our last meeting i told you guys that i was going to try to put something together a little bit break things down for an easier read instead of going through all the things there so you can have you know visual to see what time is spent where um i can read through the first part of the thinking of the report from june 1st of 2020 through june 30th 2020 we had 273 calls for service three of those were to msop and won the department of corrections in addition to the calls of service we spent four hours on msop and one hour at ecrc for the department of corrections [5:24] **Aaron Ingraham**: um the part i kind of changed a little bit here is i put what was kind of the self-initiated and then calls that we were actually responding to so you can see the difference on where we're at and then i added the pie chart in there where you can see extra patrol traffic stops calls for service assisting other agencies and some community engagement community engagement piece we want to start seeing that one increase here and obviously this isn't an accurate depiction of the time spent on these calls just kind of what the calls for servers are you know at the moment and of course the summer months here and things are you know going up but you can look at some of those calls for services like your extra patrol and those kinds of things there you know katie and i talked and i had some of the questions why are we creating calls for service for our regular patrol type things well some of those originate from a complaint [6:10] **Aaron Ingraham**: you know we're having speeders you know going down this area here or this is going on over here and we'd like extra control so then we create those calls for service for those so that when they do call and maybe have a plan we haven't seen anybody out here this day this day this day we were here but it's not that um and i tried to have that conversation that we're not going to be creating a bunch of other calls for servers that quick trip or wherever else um and getting that number up there we want a real depiction of you know what we're doing and what the calls are so it's kind of why i changed a little bit for you and if you like that format i'll continue to go with that and i can add some more things as we go um after the last meeting and your approval to go ahead with the part-timers we're able to put two more on right now that really enables us to do this scheduling we are filled right now with all of our holes in the [6:56] **Aaron Ingraham**: schedule all the way through to the first of the year with part-time eliminating any of the overtime on that and that was a big issue for a while and we had an incident where somebody that put in for all the shifts couldn't take them and it was a mess and some overtime for a bit but now we're pretty level the two partners also part-timers bring in they're both firearms instructors that's going to eliminate us contracting outside for somebody to come in and do our fireworks qualifications we'll do that in-house now so we're getting more and more things put into place and we'll talk about a little bit more when we come to some of the policy stuff later we've also implemented some other changes on uh you know reducing some of our costs as far as leaving those cars running they need to be shut off and just some other things that we can do and you know we had a meeting with all of the officers and went through some of the [7:41] **Aaron Ingraham**: things that our expectations and where we're going to go moving forward and i think you know we've met and talked on a few things as well um and i think they're going in the right direction and uh if you have any questions you know we'll get into wardrobe a little bit later but uh that's pretty much it on [8:13] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: appreciate that public works [8:15] **Phil Entner (City Superintendent)**: mr mayor members of the council um another other busy month june was june went by awfully quick so we'll start with the water department a month ago from right now i told you that about a month from then meaning roughly today we would be starting production wells from new wells well turns out the night after i walked out of here they called me so they're gonna start on monday so the production wells are in test pumping is it is now completed actually it's going to be done at 4 o'clock so all of that is completed we're waiting on samples um other than that everything looks good matt might have some more touch on that but i don't know um but yeah so that's done things are looking good it went very well [9:00] **Phil Entner**: and so far i am very happy what i see uh the water department this month there should be a 5.2 million gallons drinking water in the month of may that uh that is up a million gallons for the month i'm assuming we're doing a lot of extra watering hopefully we'll see the other catch that on the billing here in a couple weeks sewer department uh collection we uh collected 10.3 million gallons away from our month of may treatment system we had a 41 million gallon wastewater discharge um that was scheduled for june to be done all the parameters were met everything looks good and came back fine um looking really good for the fall so we're uh the sewer landing project is complete you guys all have a little piece of i don't know whatever you want to call it but it's pipeliner is what it is that is what now is in the pipe i am extremely impressed with that that [9:46] **Phil Entner**: product that is unbelievable stuff i have been very happy with the engineer and as well as the contractor um i was extremely happy with that so you guys spend a lot of money on this you don't get to see any of it so now at least you all get a little piece like that [10:12] **Phil Entner**: so this is what what we paid for it was just over a hundred thousand dollars and we did 623 feet of it uh this has a 50-year roughly a 50-year life expectancy yes and i was i was totally impressed with the entire process everything was unbelievable i by far like i was telling map is by far the best project i've been involved in since they've been here unbelievable it was really fast yeah it was like 20 years oh by the actual process itself was like 26 hours or something it was unbelievable you know the good part and maybe you know yeah how much did this save in one day and we're dry one day it was 10 to 15 000 gallons a day and we're dry we shouldn't even been able to see anything yet [10:58] **Phil Entner**: so if this is saving a lot of money this is huge this is really huge for our community so this is awesome um quarterly sewer cleaning is done that was completed last week we do have two stretches i'm sorry this week it was completed we do have two stretches left right on the highway which we're just kind of waiting for traffic to slow down to the fourth of july we'll make those two shots later this week we're beginning next week and i'll be done the bridge lift station grinder is back up and running and in service the panel that was in there was all last week and has been working just fine that was taken up from a power outage here about a month and a half ago so street department pothole failing is usually completed gravel streets and alleys we made a pass on them last month they need a little work we're going to get on next week and make things look nice again and other than that cemeteries uh [11:43] **Phil Entner**: mowing weed whipping and everything else there so that's all i got any questions [11:51] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: yeah you didn't see me say it's saving us a lot of money on this lining what was the bid or what would it cost to put a new pipe i think that's another thing that should be was it over a million or something of that nature [12:11] **Matt Bolf (City Engineer - SEH)**: oh it wasn't that much i don't have that memo with me we did an estimate of both the full replacement with manholes and a lining project because of the amount of restoration you would have on this case the lining was a little bit cheaper at least from an estimate standpoint so that's what we proceeded with but you would have to shut down a highway as you could imagine so we look at those things as well even though it's maybe not costing detouring [12:28] **Matt Bolf**: a highway is kind of a big deal as well you know what i kind of remember was seemed like it was a one-third the cost doing this then i'm trying to remember up top ahead when we had all those discussions but that's how much we saved yeah yeah i was thinking maybe more like a half of the cost i it's like six months ago and i just can't it was such a natural it was substantial yeah ripping up a concrete highway is substantial and your completion time like i said i mean when they started to finish i think it was like 26 hours granted they came back and did the manholes two days later but boom done and before i went to bed [13:14] **Phil Entner**: that night we were back up and running the existing platform pretty neat [13:24] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: it's 50 years life expectancy we were kind of blindsided a little bit as far as funding i'd like us to have something every year that we either putting the line item in there a little bit of money going towards it so we have money to do something else or just so that another city hasn't helped the blind doesn't get the same problem thank you please pass on with crew thank you i will answer technology and library report um i don't have anything for library for technology um rory got his new computer a couple weeks ago maybe then other computers will be installed [14:09] **Phil Entner**: monday tuesday and possibly wednesday of next week for any comments on the api system um we're getting stuff loaded on the new equipment getting ready to switch over and the other thing we have been running on channel 7 or no channel 18 bingo for the seniors on tuesday and friday and also exercise tape so we're gonna try to get the feedback and see how that's all going but i know there's been requests especially uh augustana wise to uh to try to provide stuff for the seniors [14:56] **Phil Entner**: and if the bingo thing goes good we're going to try to get cars distributed out to like the manors and things like that too but uh seems like it's a great idea and there's lots of ideas for the future on that too especially when we get the new equipment on board where we can actually schedule um things that what we've been doing it is at uh two o'clock in the afternoon which seems to be a good time for uh for the seniors so um pretty pretty pretty cool what uh you know and a lot of things in the future thanks [15:32] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: yeah appreciate it [15:34] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: city engineer so matt is here to go over a couple of things in the engineer [15:40] **Matt Bolf**: thank you mayor council it's nice to see some real people i'm kind of getting burnt out of go-to meetings because that's my new life so i will say it was kind of nice to get my current rights um we did meet uh as we do every month on july 1st there should be the minutes i believe in your packet i'm happy to answer any questions you have from them there's just three items that i kind of wanted to hit on out of that packet the first is the bids for the well pump house itself we received last week on purpose we are not ready to make a [16:21] **Matt Bolf**: recommendation of awards tonight because we are awaiting the full water test results that phil mentioned uh just a few minutes ago we expect to get those uh in about two weeks and the reason that is important is depending on what comes back there might be a couple of tweaks uh or changes that we would make to that um hump house so that's the reason we plan to make a recommendation at your next meeting a couple of things with that is one johnson wilson was initially the low bidder i think you have a letter in your packet within hours of opening the bids electronically they sent you and sch a letter that said we apologize but we made a material error [17:07] **Matt Bolf**: in our bid and we wish to withdraw our bid the reason they do that is because we do have the right to keep their bid bond there's a reason we require bid bonds because it costs us money to do this however in standard contract documents including the ones that we put together for you it does say that within seven days or five days if you have a material error we will return your bid by in this case they completely missed a line item we filled this material so i have no reason i've talked with katie and the mayor already i would recommend that you return their vid bond so then we would be eventually making a recommendation of one of the other bidders on that project [17:53] **Matt Bolf**: so that letter should be in your packet tonight i just gave it to you guys [18:10] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: so before you go on we might as well cover that and it should be i guess to reject their bid to return their bid on based on material errors [18:24] **Council Member Douglas Juntunen**: so moved. [18:38] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: questions discussion all in favor say aye hi hi opposed to kerry thank you [18:52] **Matt Bolf**: uh the other thing uh again related to the water quality phil mentioned or test pumping through but we'll be getting our full water tests back like i said in about two weeks so preliminary results we have we have the the well driller do some preliminary stuff with the home lab the day they drilled them so just to give you an idea there's two things we look at water quality and water quantity from water quantity standpoint your two existing wells put out about 400 gallons a minute and that's what we were looking for on the two new wells [19:24] **Matt Bolf**: we ended up about 10 feet shallower than your existing wells and got 600 gallons a minute so from a quantity standpoint we're ahead of the game with the two new wells which we're calling well three and four the other thing that we looked at just very preliminarily was iron and manganese those are two items that the department of health and epa don't have actual rules on but they have guidelines of kind of where they want to be for primarily an aesthetic standpoint of course iron as you know makes your water have the red stains manganese is what has makes it have the black stains so your existing well one your iron is at 100 your manganese is at 15 you're existing well two your irons at 14 you're making these at 120 [20:11] **Matt Bolf**: so you're you're running an average you pump 50 50 so you're running probably you know on that 75 range on a and lower on the iron your well 3 that we just drilled came back with iron at 72 and manganese at five so quite a bit lower which is good news there well four the iron was up at 100 matching your well one but the manganese came in at 275 which is a little bit higher than your existing well two well double what your you know existing well two is so we're looking we're waiting for the full test results to see just to confirm that number after they've had their 24 hour pump downs etc [20:58] **Matt Bolf**: again that's becomes more of an aesthetic issue than anything because you're already pumping manganese through your line so we're going to be looking at that as what options we have as far as varying pumps instead of doing 50 50 you can do 70 30 80 20. there's other things that we can look at so when we get those results we're going to look at that we'll have our group meeting and then we'll be prepared to make recommendations um at the next council meeting so the last thing i wanted to hit on in the meeting minutes as you probably saw in their your sew line trail i had made an application on your behalf to the dnr local trail program uh we were successful and you got 150 000 grant and we're going to try to get that [21:44] **Matt Bolf**: done yet this fall that is for the short portion of trail between north road and highway 27 it's the joint paved and atv so anyway good news we were successful getting another grant and we're going to try to get that out and have it built in october so it's ready to go [22:04] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: yeah that's good news it always is everyone likes free money great next year they could hold their that big bike-a-thon that comes through because otherwise they're going to send how many thousands they send them right downtown right down [22:29] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: through town a couple thousand bikers so they'll be happy yeah exactly so that trail being done they can do the bypass and do by the people that's huge all right thank you thank you does anyone have any questions sorry we got you here we better take advantage of it here anyone so just so you guys know we will have the um hopefully we will have the um recommendations from seh on the well house in august meeting but we just wanted to hang on to that so we could get some information from the test pumping so just the timing of it and more help but [23:15] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: thank you very much appreciate it next standard is uh item is the chamber of commerce updates um um [23:25] **Ellissa "Katie" Owens (City Administrator)**: they're doing they are doing one um for sure in person event it's just gonna look a little differently but the nine and dime um at the golf course and then um they're it was kind of cool they're doing like a virtual golf event i'm not really sure how it's to work to be honest but they're planning that i think for later yeah for like august um september yeah september-ish so that'll be kind of nice but everything else has kind of been canceled so we did talk a little bit [24:02] **Ellissa Owens**: about uh september 5th about holding the parade that we normally do at the 4th of july and the events at the park and the fireworks at night and we're holding off to do a final vote for the chambers until the august meeting to see where the state is on this whole cobra thing and if it looks promising then they would uh vote on holding the parade and we would try to go ahead with the fireworks and events in the park where this big blow up things for the kids and that kind of stuff but uh still didn't [24:48] **Ellissa Owens**: have we just don't have enough information from the state of where we'll be i think right now if you can gather 250 people at an event ah yeah i think so we're still still kind of a crazy thing where we're at but next month the final vote would be done decision on the homeowner's events we'll pass it on to the council of course the next day well they're holding meetings the same day as ours just for your information and for the community also and moving on to previously discussed business infiltration fund so this was that pond [25:33] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: that was got a lot of attention on second street um that we had the engineers um i had them kind of put together a little map of what it would look like in front of the police department and i'll let you extrude no problem [25:47] **Matt Bolf**: so there should be a handout in your packet that looks something like this just to give you a very quick background when you do a new construction project in the state of minnesota the mpc has rules in place that are state rules that you can't get around and one of them states if you add one acre or more of a new impervious surface you have to do some kind of water quality treatment i.e a pond underground structure a rain [26:21] **Matt Bolf**: garden or something like that so this is not a pick on moose lake this is a state flight no matter what project we do in this case our trail project is adding about 1.2 or 1.3 acres of new impervious so we have to do we have to buy vitals as well when we get into a trail project they're a little more difficult because they're really really long and skinny and you can't do a continuous pond or you can't do a series of six pounds phil would hate me if i did that to him because it's a whole bunch of them and access becomes an issue when all he has to do is access from a trail so that's how the second street one came up at first excuse me that got rejected for a number of reasons including some council reasons [27:08] **Matt Bolf**: that we looked at the hockey arena site as well which actually on paper looks good but we've got some some bad soil concerns just from infiltration that we know of down there and because of it so close to the river the flooding that could potentially happen would not work for water quality treatment so the site that you see in front of you now which has come from recommendations of of your staff is over at the police station that is about the size of the pond that you would need because this is water quality only it would not necessarily be a wet pond meaning you wouldn't always have to have a permanent pool of water sitting in it it's going to be more for water quality [27:53] **Matt Bolf**: and infiltration so at this point we're getting to a point in design that we need to be able to move forward with a location so we think based on phil's kd and the mayor's thoughts at our regular meetings that this is probably the best site that we have we know it works from a great standpoint and i believe katie you've reached out to police and fire and they've mentioned that as kind of an unusable area for them right now [28:28] **Ellissa Owens**: yep i just talked to austin berg and he said that they cannot use this for building anything so he didn't see it was a huge issue but it may be something that i go to the fire board meeting at their next meeting just to make sure [28:39] **Matt Bolf**: so at this point i don't know that i need an actual motion on this one i just wanted to give everyone's a heads up to make sure that we're okay with this because this is how we plan to proceed with our final design of the trail project [28:53] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: as you tell the council to the community we looked at every site that we have in the city for open property like down on e street we have a plan that we have to bowl because there's blood looked at but at the bottom let's see that would be the bottom of seven we looked at eighth we looked at the north road area just about every place we could and there was always something that wouldn't work [29:25] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: either elevation or soil or not enough room or whatever so we kind of got down to the last spot that it could possibly go in and work and it so far it looks like everything is falling this nice boring just you know we just didn't we looked at all possibilities even looked at the made the suggestion of the land up [29:56] **Matt Bolf**: development projects it has to be encouraged i guess right now correct well i guess i'd like to see it out of residential order for potential residential events excuse me thank you okay i think i might be next on the agenda you are yes under new business televising wells 3 and 4. [30:34] **Matt Bolf**: okay so this is um it's actually televising the old city well um that has not been in place or not been in service for a long time as part of our well host project phil made it clear kind of upfront that we have this existing structure that has become somewhat of a liability for the city and right next to it there is still a well that is still connected to that old structure that could potentially if something would break a valve you would have a very large mess on your hands the well abandonment was not included in our in our bids we just had on purpose because you have dnr and others that are currently using [31:19] **Matt Bolf**: that as a monitoring wall so a couple of weeks ago we've got email confirmation from everyone that we are going to abandon it and they can go monitor at a different location so what we did is we reached out to trout and asked them to give us a price to go televise it because we don't know what's down there no one has any record of it and we don't know what it's going to take to abandon it so this is a quote for hundred dollars just to televise it so we can look at it and know what needs to happen abandon it put an abandonment plan together and then put that out for a bit just to give you an idea the television that trout is doing for you right now is fourteen hundred dollars a well so you are saving all of their mobilization [32:07] **Matt Bolf**: i believe in all of their camera equipment time so you're probably not gonna ever get it any cheaper than this one is what i'm trying to say in a nice way so i'd recommend that you allow this to probably be a change order into that existing contract with trout for the additional televising it'll be old city well this is the well for the old water tower west and that little building we're looking for a motion up for six hundred dollars correct [32:41] **Ellissa Owens**: if you want to give me permission i can also approve it i just kind of wanted to get your guys's input on this too let you guys know they're already here so instead of us going out for bids and making bills [32:53] **Phil Entner**: it is okay just so we know it they are actually doing it 150 an hour but they said three to four hours of time so that's where i came up with the 600 so it could be slightly less thank you okay thank you appreciate it [33:14] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: next item this is a police department all right [33:24] **Aaron Ingraham**: hopefully you guys got the packet already and we've had a little bit of time to look at it i know i've talked to some of you about it already i know one of the things when i was hired here is we're going to look at reducing risk liability educating [33:39] **Aaron Ingraham**: training our officers better and getting up to date with policies and training um i been in contact with lexapol it's an international company i've actually listened to the owner of the company speak in person and it's just great information the policies that they put forward right now are through staff of attorneys law enforcement professionals and it's based on minnesota specific so that we could start out with a 170 different policies it's a web-based design so the officers can go from their cars there's apps for your phones anywhere to access this which is great if they're out on the scene and they need something as you're well aware our policies are very outdated and we need to get those [34:25] **Aaron Ingraham**: up into place and with the ever-changing stuff that's going on nowadays i think if we move forward into this product it'll set the city up um well into the future that it's going to constantly be changes so when we get those changes it'll come to me and i'll be able to look at okay this is the suggested policy change and it'll be highlighted compared to the old one so you don't spend a bunch of time trying to see where did they make the change and i can either uh we can as we decide we like to we'd rather go this way and we're going to make this tailored to our department we have the ability to do that and then when we go and hit the approve it goes out to all the officers when they go into check it's the date time and staff that they receive the policy currently several of the officers um you know we've got different policies floating around that really aren't up to [35:10] **Aaron Ingraham**: date and we need to get you know control of it i really think if you look in the long run for this stuff here too if i was to go sit down and try to retype all these policies and research what's the best practice and send it to an attorney to review we're going to be up there in cost i was able to talk to them if you look at the price on here now i don't know if we hadn't included in here we had it down it was like 3 400 annually but i said would you prorate that because our year starts from january to that said yeah we do that so it gives us time to implement the program if we want we can go ahead with printing out the policy and save it and then decide is this something we want to keep doing another thing that's beneficial is every day they come out with a training brief that's two minutes long that goes to every officer that's on our thing here and then they receive up to [35:56] **Aaron Ingraham**: 12 post credits from minnesota you know for that for part of their training so it's going to limit some of the other things that we need to send people to training to and it's going to keep us up to date and current on any of the high profile type things that are going on so i think with the money we spend now it's really going to reduce the risk um to the city to the officers and it's just going to make this better and doug you're probably familiar with alexa paul and maybe some of their uh programs and they do a lot more they what the police won and a lot of different types of trainings but yeah i think it's a great program i sat through with the tutorial with them and all the things that we can do with it and it's nice because a lot of these things are usually based for these big departments and even though it does provide that to a lot of the departments there's a lot of small agencies on there as well too and it's priced [36:42] **Aaron Ingraham**: because of the size of our agency and they were able to say we've got a lot of part-timers too and they were able to throw them on with you know no more charge to it because we still want to get them up to date i wanted to stay somewhat similar to carlton county because we work with them all the time so we need to stay somewhat balanced but i want to protect us and so my recommendation would be to move forward with this hopefully you got a little time this is just kind of a brief snapshot that we sent out to you but if anybody wanted um and like katie we could sit down and do the tutorial with them again like i did and once you see it and the things that it's capable of for the price i really think it's a move in the right direction [37:25] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: so what is the final price [37:27] **Aaron Ingraham**: 17.01 for this year and then i would assume next year it will be the 34.02 [37:35] **Ellissa Owens**: and i would agree i think that this is a quick way to get our policies up to date and then if we want to go in and you know tailor things a little bit more specifically to our area we can do that but i do think that what darren said with everything that's going on i think that policy and laws are going to be changing quite rapidly so if we're going to expect to stay on top of those um that will be quite timely or i take a lot of time and expensive so this is a i think this is a good program when i heard the age of some of our policies from the 1990s and all the laws that have [38:15] **Ellissa Owens**: changed since then [38:30] **Aaron Ingraham**: consistently the last decade and the sheriff the chief deputy constantly are doing the policy they don't have mexico so either you do something that's standard and they do the work or you're constantly doing it everything changes so fast the nice thing is too is when they do have a change they give you the justification on why and the best practices nationwide but yet all of this is minnesota specific so the officer when they look at it this is the reasoning behind this so we're getting a training piece along with them you know reviewing the policy so um yeah you know i appreciate you guys supporting i think we all were kind of thinking the same thing we need to move us there so it's in place well after i'm gone i'm gonna be an old guy so i won't [39:16] **Aaron Ingraham**: be around forever but i want to set it up you know just like you mentioned earlier so things are here um and that we're not gonna get behind again i also like this because it gives some accountability for the officers if we see that an officer hasn't read the last five updates we can say hey you need to go in there and make sure you're getting in there and updating yourself on these because if you don't know then you don't know but it's an accountability thing right yeah i think it's long overdue and um i like that law enforcement as well as attorneys are together um doing it and i i think it will serve us well now then thanks i appreciate it's just you know my recommendation i would like to move forward with it but uh again it's a little bit of money here [40:01] **Aaron Ingraham**: but i think in the long run it's going to save us [40:04] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: questions by the council that motion i'll make a motion [40:17] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: any further questions comments um is this something we can just build into the budget every year so we don't have to we'll have to [40:30] **Ellissa Owens**: i think we'll still have to bring this in like just because of the price of it i don't know about another like subscription like this that will do is it'll be in the budget then we'll have to bring it to the council [40:45] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: okay well thank you i appreciate it thanks for the support because that's uh it means a lot that we're moving forward and we all want to be so nice all in favor say aye aye opposed motion period thank you sir [41:00] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: okay 6c granite inliner application number one [41:06] **Matt Bolf**: yep this is the there will be one other pay application um i think tyler was waiting on some final figures from them so uh we were just holding on to about five percent retention and then the total is 100 1105 the work is complete yeah we are just holding the five percent retainers because we require them to provide us [41:31] **Matt Bolf**: ic 134s and lean waivers and of course they can't get those items until they've paid their subs so this allows them to pay their subs and get all that documentation then we'll release the final revenue very good thank you council any questions send her a motion [41:51] **Council Member Douglas Juntunen**: so moved. [41:55] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: 100 110 cents a second [41:58] **Council Member Kris Huso**: second [42:00] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: any further questions discussion all in favor say aye aye opposed both and carried [42:13] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: moving on to 60 mark branford sand lake resort [42:19] **Mark Bransford (Owner, Sand Lake Resort)**: mr mayor members of the council thank you for the opportunity to visit with you briefly tonight i would classify this as keeping you in the loop discussion with a chance to ask questions if you have any uh obviously i'm sure you saw sand lake on the resort down there and said boy why why is mark going to come and chat with us tonight so if you'll indulge me for a minute uh in the owner satellite resort i purchased that in uh 15 years ago so i said it's been a 1995. [42:48] **Mark Bransford**: a lot of these years it's been my only non-profit business i continue to subsidize that resort to try to make it into something better each year i'm pretty proud of where it's at we've been at it for a lot of years we have a lot of people that come and enjoy the resort obviously they come and enjoy city moose lake so there is some connectivity there as well and so over the course of the years i've looked at that resort uh it's really kind of two parts there's a lot of very very old cabins that date back to the 30s 40s 50s that aren't really what people expect for captains anymore and then in order to kind of find an economic model that worked we added a number of uh mobile homes over the years that have got us to the point where you know we more or less break even but but that's on a good day [43:34] **Mark Bransford**: and so as i look down the road to say you know what's our vision for that resort i began to kind of see something that maybe has an opportunity to redevelop the resort what i'm thinking is probably a multi-story building maybe more targeting senior type folks maybe a little bit of summer rental but that's not really the goal the goal is continuity those of us who have resorts can tell you that we live very well for three months over the summer and we starve for the other time so as i look out to what we could do with that resort i i really do have a 12 month bottle in mind something that would be you know frankly an asset for the community frankly an asset for the resort itself so what i've done over the course the last [44:20] **Mark Bransford**: couple years to start looking and watching for models that i like and i've made some progress on ideas and then i simply start to kind of work out from there the very first issue i run into frankly is water and sewer we've got great well water out there but obviously we're tied into the sewer most likely in the sewer district so i made a brief stop at the district about a month and a half ago just to say hey i'm starting to think about this and i know that maybe it's gotten back to you that i've stopped there and uh and i wanted to make sure that i conveyed to you the message that i can made to them which is i think we've got a great opportunity to do a pretty neat development there um i have i think we've all parked about 33 hookups about 8 000 gallons a day [45:07] **Mark Bransford**: usage um we're hoping to be in the area of probably 60 hookups which would be about another 8 000 gallons a day so the opportunity is there for us to look at expansion um and we went through the sewer board with that suggestion i i think if i understand that it's complicated at best because i think they wind up uh at your doorstep before long so realizing that sometimes you need to make sure you've got all players in on the discussions uh i'm here as an fyi to say i got a pretty good idea i think i'm a pretty good customer i'd like to be a better customer and if there's a way that we can try to partner to create an opportunity to build those additional units i sure [45:54] **Mark Bransford**: would appreciate that and i know that you know there's a lot of discussions that have to happen and maybe not all of them here today and and maybe not all of them anytime soon but in order for me to even begin to continue my vision over there i need to at least know that i've got the opportunity to have some additional capacity right now with i suspect out uh your approval at some point i i i don't have that ability so as we start to walk the walk and whatever that may be uh i guess i'd ask you to think favorably about what we're thinking about down there i was encouraged to hear the savings on that program that your engineer mentioned that seemed to be a good deal more than what we might be asking for so maybe there's this energy that comes out of that as well [46:39] **Mark Bransford**: but i guess with that said i'm i'm here to do the fyi and uh maybe here to hear any questions that you might have for me [46:48] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: counsel any questions [46:50] **Council Member Kris Huso**: yes sir um no when you're talking about humans and you're talking you're talking about like one building with several humans in it now yes right you know are you talking like we mentioned something about faith right for seniors and so on and so forth now now would that be to a point where a retired senior can afford any of the type of units and stuff that are going in [47:20] **Mark Bransford**: so there's a lot of questions there so let me let me start with what i think i know [47:25] **Mark Bransford**: a couple of the questions that i know are my my vision is one building and i want the one building because that gets us the underground market and my vision is multi-story because that gets us the elevators and i build buildings and i know i can get to about 60 before i can figure out how to pay for the underground parking in the elevator so that those two kind of lead me down that path for that 60 number the affordable issue obviously we're not subsidized we're not asking for any uh tax increment finance which is the opposite i think we're a great taxpayer but i think that what we find is that if we do it right we may not be affordable but we're approachable right that if we do some smaller size units that people can be in [48:10] **Mark Bransford**: or maybe it's not a 3 000 square foot three bedroom unit that they can't afford but maybe we have some smaller 400 500 square foot units that also give them the opportunity to be on the lake i mean the proposition is really pretty cool if we can figure out how to how to do this you can have some very nice people who've lived on the lake continue to be on the lake uh have access to the lake and and still be close to all the services that moose lake has [48:42] **Council Member Kris Huso**: you feel that the biggest problem has been the amount of sewer that can come from our systems that's basically the ponds and stuff is our system and we can't put any more than x amount of water and solutions [48:58] **Mark Bransford**: and that's a little bit beyond my pay grade but but i do know that that's [49:03] **Mark Bransford**: kind of the basis of the conserva so as we talk about you know where can we find 8 000 gallons per day if there's some savings that come out of the ioi program that you guys are starting or maybe look at helping you with your ioi program maybe there's an opportunity to have some discussion there and so maybe that ultimately needs to go back to you with the sewer board and you know again i guess i don't know very much about that but i i guess i i do know that i need you and i do know that i need to find a solution that that maybe give us that opportunity [49:37] **Ellissa Owens**: you know phil and katie and i have had some discussion and we've talked about the maximum capacity we have and i and i throughout the city and trying to figure [49:43] **Ellissa Owens**: out i know phil is going to be looking at the savings that we gain as far as capacity with this this last project we did mining that that one line that was pretty bad um so we are definitely looking at it we're trying to find out where we're where we're at and it's on our mind and we know about your project we've heard of it and we will be talking with the sewer district [50:11] **Mark Bransford**: and yeah and maybe there's an opportunity to have some discussion there because i know that there's a hookup fee that's normally associated with that and does that hook up fees they always store board is there a way to discuss that on some sort of shared basis that can help with the ini [50:30] **Mark Bransford**: again i guess i i just wanted to put it out there that i think i'm a legitimate user i think i can be a good user for the community and i think that there's an opportunity for you to look favorably on this if we can kind of navigate the concerns with capacity which i understand is an issue but but still you know is there a win-win here i guess is where the ground comes [50:56] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: are you looking at doing this like this year or probably next year [51:00] **Mark Bransford**: no no time soon i'm a 15-year resort owner uh i think we're probably half filled for next summer again so you know i don't think we're an urgent but you know knowing how long things go i'm kind of at a dead stop until i can figure out you know do i even have the ability to plug in and [51:16] **Mark Bransford**: uh you know i think we have the equivalent of about 33 hookups now so we obviously have the opportunity to continue that or to maybe look at something different but if we want the underground parking if we want the elevator you know i i need that extra count to help us get there which is really why i'm here today so i'm definitely [51:38] **Council Member Douglas Juntunen**: are these going to be rentals or are they going to be people can buy [51:42] **Mark Bransford**: i don't know the current plan is rentals and and there's a couple of reasons for that um one is that's what i do two is there's just been over the years and maybe more than you need to know but there's just been over the years a number of litigation lawsuits that have come out of the condo associations and so it's almost impossible to find a [52:02] **Mark Bransford**: reputable builder that'll build one because of that fear of being sued within that first 10-year period so almost all of the apartment buildings that you're seeing built today are done with the idea that they're going to be apartment rentals for 10 years and then once those 10-year periods get past the whole lawsuit issue then there's the opportunity so i i think the answer is i'm envisioning rentals but is there a possibility down the road these could be condos i think the answer is yes there's a lot of opportunity for that as you as you go down the road i think frankly most people would prefer to have that [52:43] **Council Member Kris Huso**: are you thinking short-term rentals or long-term rentals or a mix [52:47] **Mark Bransford**: probably a mix i mean i i think at the end of the day you know we'll probably have the ability to have some but it's the coming and going that i think is more wear and tear [52:47] **Mark Bransford**: for us you know i think the other side is the risk that i have to take is you know will this market support 60 units today you know can we find six people here can we find seven people there there's 13. um you know if i have you know 50 people and i'm so short 10 well that short-term rental is going to feel pretty good to us for a year or two until i can find those other 10. [53:10] **Mark Bransford**: so so i guess i'm looking as i go through my zoning to probably have some flexibility i would offer to you too i think i've just got the the greatest area for that you know we're along the road we've got a service road we're next to the trail we're down the street from you guys we're down the street from the hospital so i i think it's a terrific area and i hope to have that demand there but anytime you do a development like this there's always the risk that you can start and not find the market as deep as you hoped [53:49] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: further questions by the council i'm sorry you'll have it up by five years i'm 57 and so i've got i've got a good 10 15 years yet right so but some of that depends on you guys [53:56] **Mark Bransford**: if you can help me a little bit you know i'm i'm getting close to a standstill with design so if you guys can figure out a way to help me navigate this this next link that would sure be helpful very good thank you very much for your time i really appreciate that and by the way it was nice to have a public meeting i've been a lot of zooms too so yeah really wonderful so thank you all thank you thank you [54:29] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: moving on to uh this was a change um it was second street infiltration and now it is the pd admin position katie [54:40] **Ellissa Owens**: yeah it has nothing to do with infiltration um so we darin and i met with the personnel committee on last week you think um to discuss now that darren's been there for a month um to discuss the needs of the administrative position um and i think what we kind of came to the conclusion was that it was needed but maybe not full-time so the recommendation from what i gathered out of the personnel meeting was that we should go [55:17] **Ellissa Owens**: forward with a part-time admin assistant so i'm i'm just looking for approval for that to post that i i do have a little bit of work to do before i do that i have kathy's old job position description i mean and then uh she sent darren some like new job duties with them just kind of evolved over the years so i would would like to make a nomination with both of those um and post that which i just haven't had time to do quite yet so just looking for how many hours are we looking at uh you're gonna talk to about between 20 and 25 hours per week okay [56:07] **Council Member Walter Lower III**: questions discussion and counsel you guys have all heard some of the things that i have said about the police department aaron wasn't here for a lot of those meetings and some of them are behind closed doors so just some of his council members are aware some of the things that he said you know i'm still looking at trying to find a reasonable budget level for the police department and i would like to still see some cuts made this would be at least cutting down one position to half time i'm still wondering if we're still looking at going to one less patrol officer since that's what i thought we were kind of angling towards by [56:52] **Walter Lower III**: going and making darren a working police chief i just believe that we have some opportunities here to uh save our taxpayers and citizens some money uh to be used in other areas one area this is for the infrastructure which you've all heard me talk about the roads in the sewer and water because right now the first 10 projects will take 30 years and i don't remember exactly how many projects are on that but it was somewhere around 60 or 80 projects so we're looking at generations to get these projects done and i feel that there is a need to quit kicking the can down the [57:37] **Walter Lower III**: road and start working on some of these uh infrastructure problems and i'd like to see the best use of our taxpayers money being being spent here i am concerned about the police department i do respect for each police department but by no means do i want to see the police department unfunded like they have called for in some of these other cities i think that that is crazy but i would like to see our police department more affordable like i have said before it's around the total property taxes that were taken in the budget for the police department and it's over three times the public works department [58:22] **Walter Lower III**: and i was a little just surprised by this i don't have all my notes to get into everything i would have liked to have known that we were going to discuss this before to meet right before the meeting started is when i found out about this so i just want you to know that i still have uh concerns about that if you feel that we need an administrative position to handle certain issues down there you know uh i am fine with that i do not want to see this position being doing doing the work that the police officers can do that themselves that's one thing that i'm concerned about but i just wanted to uh put that out [59:09] **Walter Lower III**: there again so you guys are all still aware of my feelings and you know i brought up that i'm concerned about the revenue that we are going to be taking in for this year with the colgan not just for the city but for the county and the state as well they will not be bringing in as much money with this covert and it's all still up in the air we do not know how long this is all going to go on so i'd like to see us play it safe and try to use our money as wisely as and possible that that's all i have to say [59:52] **Council Member Kris Huso**: can i just make one comment i think that was you know we're looking at this as a part time to [59:57] **Kris Huso**: decrease well starter savings and insurance so forth i also think with the um adding the other part-time officers we're gonna really see a decrease in overtime so i think we're heading in the right direction i think it's just going to take a little time to show us the savings that are actually going to be occurring i do think we've discussed this in detail and i do think there is a need for a assistant down there but again yes the assistant doesn't need to do the job of the officers and that's why i think going down to part time really will [1:00:45] **Kris Huso**: save the city money and will work for your needs [1:00:52] **Aaron Ingraham**: and i appreciate the concern because i'm looking at it the same way you are so when i come in here and i've only been here a month and we're at big tracking in a good direction where i think we're already gonna see some savings coming up to this next year and part of that position now is you know we have that opportunity to look at it so okay we need it especially for now coming into something new and trying to get a handle on everything um not to say that we can't reevaluate that later to look at it that okay hey you know and i've already talked to the officers katie's been there we had the meetings with them and they are going to be taking over some of these duties because when i was here before we didn't have all that stuff in the budget it's really gone up and sometimes technology drives some of that but there's a lot of things we can do and you know i appreciate the comments that that's your concern as it should be and i think [1:01:30] **Aaron Ingraham**: that's probably everybody here and our decisions are as you know one of the leaders in the city is we are going to try to reduce that but still maintain the service that the citizens here expect so no i appreciate it we're looking at every single thing that we can to drop it down and i think we are going in the right direction so if there's any questions at any time feel free to you know get ahold of me but we should all be looking at that and we are going to try it out [1:02:11] **Walter Lower III**: yeah one problem is that i'm not in those conversations so i don't really know what you guys are looking at all the time right but as it comes up and i see stuff i mean is there a way for me to get this information [1:02:22] **Ellissa Owens**: see if you came to him then we would have uh what we'd have in a quorum so you can't do that [1:02:18] **Walter Lower III**: yeah yeah let's see that's that's the problem right so it's not i'm wondering if you're not going to be then you're you know it's like any of the other committees reason that the others don't close you know we have a in essence opposed meaning yeah it's just like i don't like to show up at a meeting and find out the information right there because i need to look at it and consider it for amount of time and that but i like what you guys are saying and i'm happy to do that [1:02:59] **Kris Huso**: so i would also agree with chris that um and we kind of talked about this i think with with the police department it's not saving you're not going to see savings right away you're going to see savings [1:03:04] **Kris Huso**: over the course of three four months you're gonna see savings over six months you're gonna you're gonna see savings over a longer period of time so um it's not like an instant thing darren starts and we immediately cut the budget in half like that no i i i know but it will take time but we we are on the right track okay thank you [1:03:32] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: i'm confident that we're on the right track yeah we've implemented some stuff anything that now that's going out i'm going to approve it and anything above that we need i'll be talking to katie so nothing's getting purchased without my knowledge or up to katie's depending on the dollar amount and every invoice that comes in i will be looking and so we're probably attracting them to the right funds so we can really see stay on it you know monthly where we're at where we're going you know and where [1:03:50] **Aaron Ingraham**: we can cut so no i appreciate the comments thank you for that i think also you know you're smart hiring the part-time people to have the services that can we can do in-house rather than to have it out so i really think we're on the right track and i really think by this time next year you know hopefully we'll all be pleasantly surprised of things changes that we've implemented and made and the same things that yeah it just takes a little time to like say if you you know there's questions and you don't know i mean i'm always open to answering what we're doing but um so after any time that uh i should say maybe that now would be a good time something that i've started to do with a few of our larger departments like [1:04:36] **Ellissa Owens**: bill um and darren i've met i started meeting with them every month to go over their revenues and expenses yeah answer any questions did i make a mistake part of what darren was talking about with coding his own invoices that helps me because it's less responsibility on me to know where he wants you know all of his invoices coded too so um that's not to say i'm not going to make a mistake um but it's it's just kind of a checks and balances thing and you can see like oh we're really high in overtime this month why do you know why does it make sense that kind of thing so we are looking at it a little more closely than we have in the past so and that's across most of our departments and we're very [1:05:23] **Ellissa Owens**: open back and forth on things i mean we're in constant contact and as well and so this is what we're looking at this is what like now maybe some air conditioning issues we're having yep we're going to try to you know get those all handled so it's pretty constant you know communication so hopefully we're getting where we need to be that i like i said i have the same concern to you you know not only for you also but for all the council members if you want to know what's going on with any committee just ask katie to be informed that there is a meeting and what it's about and it could be any of the other committees also and that's always open to all of you you may not be able to go to it because you would create a quorum problem but just ask them any of the committees [1:06:10] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: that you and me forms when they're meeting and what their discussion is you have the right to ask and kind of what it is that's no problem if the problem is if you go then it's important and they would have to close well they'd have to stop the meeting because you have to post it if you're going to have a performance [1:06:33] **Walter Lower III**: i did talk to katie and she did give me some information on her mommy i just didn't realize that it was going to be on an agenda this week so i just thought about it okay this morning as i was driving here that i didn't put it on there so without any other any of them [1:06:58] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: if there's any further discussion do i have a motion to give katie uh uh okay on posting this position um part time help me to make that notion to try and part-time [1:07:22] **Council Member Kris Huso**: so moved. [1:07:26] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: any further questions discussion all in favor say aye aye opposed motion care thank you thank you [1:07:38] **Ellissa Owens**: and i will work with darren on this job description and email it out to everybody maybe like a week or a couple days before i post it just so you guys know all right thank you [1:07:51] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: moving on to 6f resolution 20.07.001 [1:08:00] **Ellissa Owens**: oh sorry this is me um this is a resolution for um election judges for the primary uh election on august 11th and with that i have uh july 28 through august 11th is the filing period for those of you who are interested in brief for re-election july 28 through august 11th so i'm just letting everybody know because it's going to be the last thing greg you're up right [1:08:49] **Ellissa Owens**: august 28th through uh sorry july 28th through august 11th will that go out into the papers [1:09:02] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: so we are looking for a motion to approve the election to appoint the election judges and resolution 20.07.01 [1:09:14] **Council Member Walter Lower III**: so moved. [1:09:18] **Council Member Kris Huso**: second. [1:09:20] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: someone one second favor say aye opposed motion period and then the second item for everyone july 28th august 11th whoever wants to sign up to run for city council our mayor that's when you come in bring your two dollars katie with two dollars to sign up [1:09:51] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: moving on to uh 6g this is atv complaints and this one i'll talk about because a lot of the complaints came to me and okay do you have had some complaints also guile has had some complaints um phil are you getting any i am not i think you guys are taking and also complaints up on uh this would be lakeshore south up by the prison and this is nothing new this this is continuous this the arena i'll talk about that first [1:10:37] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: and even though we don't have as many um activities going on there were still at the farmer's market and excuse me we don't have the other activities that are going on because this whole thing but he has constantly atv's racing down through there and even though they're all posted they still cut across the parking lot they still cut down towards the other stores where it's all posted and it's it's just constant his last uh complaint that he got was two kids almost kept him by atvs racing through there and they went beginning with [1:11:23] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: a manager farmers market have talked to me about the dust and the number of atvs coming through with different people watching trying to walk to across the streets of economics market i would like to close that road to atvs that's another question we have entrances at uh well they come in on every every highway coming into the cities on 7361 all the directions i don't see why we have to keep that open what's the purpose [1:12:12] **Council Member Douglas Juntunen**: the hockey rink road yeah well how are they going to get up to the the trail there they'll have to drive [1:12:19] **Douglas Juntunen**: through town there's a lot of new but i mean yeah i know a lot of them do but i you'd have to go all the way to town up and how would you get up then swoop hill to 27 and drive [1:12:41] **Phil Entner**: hill to the depot to get on that trail to go that way or that way well there's a trail behind the stores there they go the access to that that co-op gas station the holiday gas station there's a access there they go behind all those stores [1:13:00] **Douglas Juntunen**: i don't think you can get up that bridge that holiday one is that they're just getting pretty fast yeah i don't think you can get up there i mean i agree with you but i don't know if the the solution is to send them through town to other businesses well i know they're going now but [1:13:25] **Douglas Juntunen**: they're also going that way i just don't know if that's the solution to sending through the more dense part of town there is a trail that goes from like the grocery store to where the parking road ends at but that trail is so rocky and so bad and so full of mud that they don't want to use that trail behind it well it like follows the old railroad green the guitar will know but there's a trail down in there and most people don't like to use it it's kind of like there's a trail from coffee lake because they are going to destroy the anti-characters that but that trail is also so rocky and [1:14:03] **Douglas Juntunen**: and so rough that the people don't want to use it so they just go up on the road and make it easier for them [1:14:08] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: okay well threw that out i'm to go on to the next one and this is 5th street and from the trail 73 and in the trail where it crosses it goes to the people there's a small trail they can get onto it's all dirt it kind of curves back on itself the fish tree then you get on history and you end up right by the implement down there i'm requesting to close that also i get complaints from the [1:14:49] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: houses that live right next to that trail of dust constantly all weekend long as we know how dry it has been it's extremely dry so you get clouds of dust all weekend long from atvs i've had complaints of them they'll they get once they get off the dirt and they take off get to the first stop signing and i watch them from my deck they don't even stop they do a rolling and a quick look they don't even stop and they just head straight down the hill it doesn't have churches on or not they still as well as can be and take off which is unfortunate because they ruined it for the people that do follow the law and there are those that will do the [1:15:35] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: speed limit you know they're they're concurries to the people that live there with the dust and stuff so they slow down but you still have a problem with the ones that don't and you have this dust gloves and as those people complain to me this is not the first time this was 15 years ago i brought this up about 10 years ago about that five years ago to close that history some asking again the fourth time to close that that trail designated trail down fifth street there it's like half go down 73 and then disperse on industrial road the other gold um to the south or to the i guess that you [1:16:24] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: call the north but it's a fully north industrial road so they have full access on 73. what's the purpose of it on the fifth street when it's going through a residential [1:16:34] **Walter Lower III**: i could see shut down that one i've always felt that the best access from the trail in the town would be down the north road it has the least amount of people living living along it and it goes right down to the implementation right down to the implement and there is a trail already just you know one made from people driving on there it's not it hasn't been a developed trail but there is a trail that that is along there and there are far less people that are living in that area so i would i would think that if you close down 5th street you could open up the trail on the north [1:17:10] **Walter Lower III**: road have one who's 27 and then they're also entering town you know like down there on the north end of town where there's that little little trail that goes up to the bridge to get onto the one that goes over there there are people that are using that to come into town which they're not supposed to but there is no sign that says no atvs on that end of the the trail where you go over the bridge over 61 you can take a left but there's no sign up there at least at last i looked that tells them not to go down there so they go down there and then they're kind of like there by my brother's shop and that and on that industrial road then they take that [1:17:56] **Walter Lower III**: industrial road in the town too and from the way that i've seen they're not supposed to be doing that but if we put a sign there and then maybe if we put some other signs on a north road and then on 27 we could we could have another access from the camp when there will be downtown field and then down the lilly grove to the trails you know the sioux line trails you know and i don't have i never heard a complaint on that about um it calls the chapter on people don't have to access the line and live from the zoo landing people all over their places and hooked up to everything it's definitely a delicate situation some people wanted some people don't i'd like to find the medium some [1:18:42] **Walter Lower III**: agreement that we could do here i have been keeping track this spring on how busy the stores are and the co-op and the holiday have been doing tremendous business on on the weekends sometimes they must they must get a hundred wheelers in there on some of these weekends and then there's quite a few going to port areas and in the restaurants and i've even had them show up to go to the movie movie theater here uh three times this this year so far which i'm surprised i hadn't had them come to the movie theater yet at least on their machines but they've been coming on their machines so i think that it is doing quite a bit of revenue in in town here and i would hate to see us losing that revenue especially during [1:19:28] **Walter Lower III**: this down economic time but definitely if you're living up there on 5th street and you got these people racing through uh i would not personally want to be living up there and have to deal to deal with that with with the dust so i think that there's definitely they definitely have reasoning to be asking to have that shut down the hardest one to fix i think is the one down there by by the hockey rink on the how to i've got one more time this is this is the lake shore south um let me use an individual here if you want to speak about it okay any questions about it i'll tell you right now what can you come up to the [1:20:15] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: saturday [1:20:20] **Al Shmaely (Resident)**: my name's al shmaely by the way from 9 12 right saturday there was four side by sides racing down lake shore side by side side by sides about 20 minutes later here comes six more four workers doing the same thing this has been going on ever since we made a trailer and i've asked previously with law enforcement to do extra patrols out there and they have but they can't be here all the time so i've talked to dnr and unfortunately a few years ago [1:21:03] **Al Shmaely**: moose lake opened up all the streets to an abt they need to travel meaning everything snowmobiles four wheelers [1:21:18] **Al Shmaely**: the dnr says hey we're just using it we're not going to close it down because they took them out of the ditch along the 2773 wintergreen number you want to get coming off the interstate they took them out of the hitches when they redid the roads and put them in filtration so i'm stuck with the only thing is to slow them down and that's you know i had excuse me thank you i had a couple signs made up i'm going to try to post them somewhere that was one of the questions here is there several posts down at the [1:22:03] **Al Shmaely**: entrance or 289 and make sure me i'd love to put it there but i'm stuck with that city property or state property i'm not sure who so do i get the approval from you guys do i get it from the state yeah where the trail comes in from the south side there uh he jumps up on the pavement and comes down towards my house and passing kingdom hall there there's two or three light poles or power poles there that really work nice to put one of these here because they got to slow down i would think to come up on that [1:22:50] **Al Shmaely**: pavement again do i have permission to do this or not i don't know but it's but i need them to slow down plain and simple i i've ran a bunch of things through with the mayor i've talked to the police chief here too um sloane down i gotta slow down i mean the dnr is going to pass it on to their seals aaron said he'd pass it on to the seals um but you got to slow them down [1:23:25] **Walter Lower III**: i wonder if there's a way for the city to put up their own signs their own their own slowdown signs up there or something along that lines i mean a privatization don't have the right to go put up the sign wherever you want [1:23:37] **Ellissa Owens**: but that would be all based off of the sign the sign ordinance and that but i have these made i'm putting them up somewhere okay even if i have to put them on my property the bad thing is i mean you have permission by any of the owners up there to put it on their property you you can do that right yeah yes greg you have a question okay [1:24:08] **Council Member Douglas Juntunen**: is there an official speed limit for the four wheeler that when they're on a city street that they can travel they have to follow the same speed and laws is [1:24:23] **Douglas Juntunen**: yeah that's why i thought it was 20 miles an hour but i guarantee you that side my sides not even close for that well they're having somewhat of the same problem down on the frontage road that's down by the moosehorn river on the south side of there there's a lady there that has put up her own signs on her own property slowing down in that but i know that they have had that that complaint too they're coming up out of the ditch there by going past campers that way which which i said there's there is a trail down below there to use but it's so bad that people don't want to use it so they go up on the freeway instead because of a lot of rocks and whatnot but now i'm i'm definitely glad that you've come here to share your complaints with you and [1:25:09] **Douglas Juntunen**: they're legitimate complaints and we need to do something to to make this area livable yeah for for everyone like i said i'd like to find a compromise you know because i don't want to see the revenue lost i also do not want to see our residents suffering by i am going through fast and it's also noise there's some of them that come in here without pipes on their vehicles and what that seems to irritate a lot of people too i was wondering if they are violating noise ordinance law what we have for the noise ordinance laws in town [1:25:47] **Aaron Ingraham**: it's really tough because if you don't have the statute on that it just says any loud cracking or popping sounds well every harley davidson that's out here is that but they have such a lobby group that it's fine it's really hard to get any prosecution because of the way the [1:25:55] **Aaron Ingraham**: statute was written you'd have to try to get into some type of decimal meter and reading all of that and it's still not defined so it's really just a tough thing to enforce um you know as far as atvs the dnr people would know that more obviously if we had a car and they bypassed the exhaust and have straight pipes we would force you know that kind of stuff but i know what you're talking about on the low pipes and stuff another problem if there's a complaint by the time you get there the atvs are long gone right and it's that same but i've ran into that over and over again with complaints that come to me um they're gone already you know where you're gonna find them and you don't have a vehicle yourself that's going to run down the trail to find who they are even if you [1:26:40] **Aaron Ingraham**: could all right so that is a big problem and i can work with the dnr and they were here last weekend doing some enforcement there on the water for a little bit and they went out on the atvs and it was kind of a deadly weekend for atvs so we definitely don't want that here so we can get some enforcement in there and um i agree with the thing here is we want to welcome the atvs in the business but they've got to follow the laws set here you know so it's you know good for everybody so between you know you and part of the canadian ever looking okay now if it's on a state park you know where 289 comes in and out in their setbacks i mean you can't put anything on a power pole you can't put anything on their street like hole so but i agree that it should be a somewhat permanent sign that's through the city or [1:27:27] **Aaron Ingraham**: something to that effect that's on there well i know all the coming in from where you're talking about that dirt trail that comes behind the prison there when you get onto the road yeah that would all be state property there so [1:27:42] **Ellissa Owens**: and as far as driving on the city streets i'm i i recall that it was you had to take the most direct route to the trail it's not like you could just drive the willy-nilly or the every single street um i i live on the corner of lakeshore driving first street and believe me they come up lakeshore drive and they take one swoop then go down first street [1:28:12] **Ellissa Owens**: to the park so i i do understand your concern luckily i'm not on a dirt road but um again it's yeah we [1:28:28] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: the safety and residential peace peacefulness and i have a suggestion i want to go farther because i brought this up so many times through the years i asked phil to look for a portable speed bump and you guys should have that on your desk these could be put down in the spring and taken up in the fall because of the concern of snow plowing [1:29:00] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: concerns this would be something that i think would slow them down on lakeshore south you know strategically placed the same thing um maybe down by the arena i feel you could talk about that i don't know that affect you guys coming in and out but it's more of a concern to the public that's down there at the time um is that something we could probably use like let's say we know a farmer's market is coming on the weekend and we drop it out close to where they're going to be you know or something like that so that we have that in place there um i mean it's going to be like a problem for you guys going in and out during the week all the time [1:29:45] **Phil Entner**: it's something you can just pull out of the way i mean it definitely slowed people down [1:29:54] **Douglas Juntunen**: is then the atvs are just going to go around into the arena parking lot which is exactly what kyle doesn't want but they're posted no atvs even though they you know i i don't know if we can we have to keep trying to post them and try to slow them down i just don't know how many more signs i know there's at least four signs down there [1:30:20] **Phil Entner**: there was 14. [1:30:22] **Douglas Juntunen**: there was yeah and i'm it's just like at some point too much is too much something yeah i was supposed to have to start going and enforcing it because i think it's been always before i got here that it was allowed to happen you know it's just getting left too much that too much is going on i mean it's not to say that they have to have [1:30:40] **Aaron Ingraham**: citation but we need to be getting the message so these are two i think yeah my suggestion would be not to use them because if you think they're going fast now and you think they're going fast enough give them a two inch jump they're going to be going really fast i talked about that i discussed that yeah i would not put that up you know they work well down in the park they work well for cars but yeah you want to see them going faster maybe on saturday mornings you have an officer kind of just pop down on oral islands there on the corner and hit these hot areas you know jumper right away that you know you still come [1:31:27] **Phil Entner**: in but we're shut to the road down with the gate up on the top or something like that too for the weekend or something i don't know but you don't want somebody running into the gate too is that have to be well marked but what my feeling is though is is you're shutting that down and you're sending with the weekends as busy as they are during the summer months and you're sending then more of those machines down the main drag i think that just becomes a real safety hazard i mean there's plenty i go down there now but to start sending all of them down there some of them are road legal well the side-by-sides are licensed and world legal that's part of the problem um but i think it's more probably the [1:32:12] **Aaron Ingraham**: four-wheelers that are get is that are you thinking that's both the the biggest features are the side-by-sides actually that they're getting more and more popular they're starting to buy those more than the regular poor winners now [1:32:38] **Gary Peterson (Carlton County Commissioner)**: we have about 10 months of speed please i think i know everybody on gary peterson county commissioner but it sounds like a broken record i'm talking here because i get a lot of phone calls too about the sioux line and soon you know the soup hits over there and greg renew is really working on this you know he's our head of the land department and uh we're looking at [1:32:58] **Gary Peterson**: updating our ordinances and and i think he's put up new um speed uh new signs in that area and uh so we are working with the dnr and i think we all need to collaborate on this and all work together because i think you know we need to give some citations you know if the word gets around you know we're going to do this stuff we had two people in carlton county that got killed last weekend last weekend but uh but i think if you talk with greg you know he's exploring we're looking at all different kinds of ideas we had a public hearing that i think our last county board meeting and you know some people mostly came there and talked and [1:33:44] **Gary Peterson**: but i think the big thing let's all work together to see if we can you know find find a solution at the same time we want most of the time you know 95 percent of these people are really good people but you always got that small little percentage that kind of record for everybody so that that's just my two senses i enjoy the conversation thank you very much thanks for the input um [1:34:10] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: well i guess everybody has the facts um i still am requesting that on fifth street through that residential area with all of the dust and the problems that we've had here after here with the with atvs coming down that um [1:34:29] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: presenting that to the council any of these other action items that's up to you with emotion i have a question is that a designated trailer is that a trail but somebody who just created it it's on the maps yeah and i don't know if the north road was on the maps but if we wanted to replace replace that trail with the north road on the medication they have the they can utilize that now yeah i didn't know if it was on the map or not you could definitely put it on the map yeah yeah [1:35:08] **Walter Lower III**: i don't think that your street is needed to be accessed [1:35:22] **Walter Lower III**: was there because of the business down at the bottom of the hill and i understand that [1:35:35] **Walter Lower III**: you would see that half the half the traffic going down that on the weekends let's say atvs between 5th street and 73 it's half and half well i understand that but i mean it's still illegal so i wouldn't want to tell tell as a city tell them to use that we'd have to say go down here and go down north road i don't want to be encouraging people to ride on something that's why you agree though however we do it just make sure that we're giving them you know we're not pointing them to something that they're going to end up getting taken for because that isn't believe me i've never seen anyone give a ticket to him in 15 years that can change [1:36:27] **Aaron Ingraham**: can the side-by-sides legally go on 73 then well it's you know the state highway i think um overrides okay like the city street so at least i can end it with ford enforcement part of it so i mean all the other streets too you know they still gotta have you know the turn signals and all that kind of stuff or you know to be on there but um like you know the mayor said and if we can just redirect it um clearly on another way down there um yeah i don't think they need to be going through the more we can channel them to the areas we want them probably the better so if you can close off some areas and however you want to work it out we can help in any way with enforcement [1:37:14] **Aaron Ingraham**: and stuff like that whether it's signage and then you know city crews decide how we're going to close these up or get some if they're on the current maps we should probably have some things posted really good and where to go but yeah we definitely and we will hit it right away some of the reinforcement on that you know and to me okay when we make a change like this if the council approves this we could set a date when that would take effect it could be next spring so that the atv group whoever that you know that run the whole thing that make up the trails have time to to take down those postings you know they [1:37:59] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: got signs all over and also make the new the new trail maps i think that people up there would understand that you give them time to make the changes on their maps at a certain date it could be april 1st this is closed and all the signage by then can be taken down and it could be blocked off at first with police tape or or something just so they know it's no longer accessible to me that would satisfy them they know that you know to make a change just like that probably isn't a good idea somebody will [1:38:45] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: get hurt somebody will go in an area where they shouldn't be and get in trouble or um so it to me that would be a smart way to do it as long as it is well communicated and maps are remade and when i say this do you have problems with snowmobiles coming off the trail and going down that way not necessarily they seem to stay and hunger i seem to i see some that will cut across that land it's owned by uh rick lewis they won't follow the trail anymore they just cut right across his property and go down fifth street they don't necessarily follow the whole trail and just cut across his land [1:39:31] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: and go down but i very few a couple times the winter it seems like people when it's that much snow they stick to the street to go wherever they're going or they you know they just don't ride them like they do [1:39:53] **Council Member Kris Huso**: yes sir are you proposing from the fifth and fir up to where the trail is there you know right that for it leaves the trail all the way down to industrial road right okay [1:40:15] **Kris Huso**: i'd make a motion to close that trail down until springtime april 1st if you think that would be a good day to contact the atv are you saying until then or close it on april 1st close it on april 1st that you to give the people the chance to change the maps yeah it's already out there this summer already in the middle of july we've got another rest of the summer you know the maps already there and stuff right i understand that that gives them time to make the change yes advertise that it's closing [1:41:02] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: maybe shop any other questions discussion i would say under discussion we need to make sure that implement in other places are well aware of this and get their input of what would be the best alternative i know i don't want to be blindsided by something like this this will give them six months to figure it out yeah we i'm just saying we should notify them of that upcoming channel i think jim and andrew brother were generally part of the atp yeah at one time i think he was the president of it there's so many people that come [1:41:48] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: up as well i'd like to see them on if they're going to come to through the city i'd like to see them on industrial more than anything because that's what it's designed for is that traffic of industrial trucks and those managers [1:42:07] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: thank you um it doesn't solve your problem on that adventure on the lakeshore um i i think you're posting your signs because we did the same thing up there to try to slow them down um we just had the names that made him and we had to put in rick bruce's yard it did help some people actually will honor them and others they're just gone and if nobody thinks this is a good idea i thought maybe that would help slow them down but i i don't know [1:42:53] **Aaron Ingraham**: it would slow some people down but like he said doug said yeah they're going to find a way to make it a good time with it too but hey only takes one accident at home it's usually a youth and that's what we don't [1:43:19] **Aaron Ingraham**: well i would like to see just to start with maybe an officer down there saturday mornings just sitting there to kind of good afternoon so when they start coming back off the trail when yeah we'll just come out of the cars with the dnr we'll get a hell of them they can bring their atvs and we'll come try and hit some little spots and get the messages out early that will be there especially during the farmers market yep anywhere there's you know concern for atp traffic yeah we'll get that out thank you [1:43:52] **Phil Entner**: i have one suggestion of of all those cameras that were installed i know there is one down at the arena i don't know if that's one that's a non-working camera but when it makes sense to uh because as if if i understand correctly you're able to pull those cameras all up [1:44:04] **Phil Entner**: at the police station so what if you would push push you don't have those cameras working number one but push the idea that you know the cameras are cameras are going because it seems like you know having to sign that making them aware at least that there's cameras might be as good as as anything too and i know there is one i think facing that direction at the arena that might be one that's not working but probably should be i mean that paid for having the cameras there i don't know what you know and it probably some of those other areas too because there's what 20 cameras how many cameras got installed all around town that's quite a few so you know getting those working because i mean if it pushed came to shove i mean you should be able to use that footage too but i think that would probably [1:44:51] **Phil Entner**: detour say hey you know this is this is the thing because uh i know when i kind of was cruising through you know because it's it's hooked up the same way as its console cam camera as far as all the list of cameras and there's there's a lot of them there but i know the arena one in the past was not working quite quite right i think they got most of them up and running [1:45:15] **Aaron Ingraham**: yeah they were on today and you know yeah and nothing else even if we're in the pd and we see a group coming through or a lot well that's that's what i'm saying yeah and and and in the signage i would push about the cameras being there you know because i mean that like i say uh that could detour too because it seems like that definitely helps in areas where security wise if you say you know you're on camera [1:45:36] **Aaron Ingraham**: just a suggestion yeah it could be a sign that coming right off the trail especially exactly yeah and really some of those remote areas i mean you could technically put a trail cam i mean trail cabs there are even even to shoot video i mean trail cams are pretty advanced right now that i mean you could even where there isn't a quote city camera set up right now i mean you you could definitely if there's some of those problem areas i mean don't you think the dnr has trail cams yeah i'm sure i mean it's up on the enforcement side because you really can't take much enforcement actually you never prove what the driver is so if you were going to do something like that but it'll let us know where the hot spots are what time of day they're coming through [1:46:22] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: you know whether it's the late night ones that are you know we can narrow some things down right thank you yeah um moving on um welter yeah [1:46:39] **Walter Lower III**: i had an individual contact me from town here and he was wondering why the water in the park was shutting off and i've been informed because it was uh people have taken large quantities of water down there over the years but uh we used to have water in four locations down at the park uh one by the pavilion and then there was a drinking fountain and then there was two spigots by the gazebo and uh and by the playground area [1:47:09] **Walter Lower III**: and uh i don't know for my whole life i've seen people go down there and take water some of them have taken you know filled up jugs and stuff like that and i didn't see that we had a problem with it before some of those people are the less unfortunate people some of them that don't have water running water whether they don't have a well or their wells broke down i do understand the concern of somebody going down there and taking very large quantities of water but for people to just go down in the park and just want to be able to get a drink of water or wash their feet off after they've gone swimming or washing off their toys from the beach that's what this guy's concerned was he likes to wash off his kids feet where they get in the car and their toys and stuff like that [1:47:54] **Walter Lower III**: and then just for people just having barbecues cooking down there if they want to get some cooking water or some water to wash your dishes afterwards people need to be able to have some kind of water access down in there in the park you know i just don't see why we have to shut off the water completely in the park i would like to see a couple of those pickets there's pickets uh turned back on so people can have access to the water down there and if if they could maybe come up with some kind of sign to put on the spickets that would just say for park use own only or no large quantities i realized that that would be a problem to be supervising that but you just have to rely on the [1:48:39] **Walter Lower III**: goodness of people of not going down there and taking a whole bunch of water so i just wanted to bring that to the council's attention and see what people's thoughts were about getting some some water back on back on down in the park [1:48:58] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: literally the park is aware that they're shut off they should be turned off i guess i was never aware they were shut off so they were they were shut off um are they supposed to be out of the buyers too or not i guess i don't know and they have a great question because most drinking problems drinking fountains out of order down there so it's just mostly stick a couple spigots i'd like to see that that drinking foam that thing [1:49:25] **Phil Entner**: doesn't work anymore sure and i would be fine we could easily turn it back on and we could basically plug off a few of those pickets but i want to know an answer right now how do you want me to go about this when i see the four pickup trucks with tanks in the back of them getting bottled water how do you want me to go about it there's seriously guys with tanks there was i was getting three to five calls a week if it was just a little bit i wouldn't shut it off you're gonna have to shut them down when we're gonna have to tell somebody that's working down there in the park or if the police officer goes goes by there and sees that or just somebody within the city public waterworks we're gonna have to tell them no you know this is for for city or park visitors only and after small amounts of water and if you do want a [1:50:10] **Phil Entner**: lot of the water like that you could send them you know i don't know if the holiday is allowing them to take that much water [1:50:15] **Phil Entner**: no i i love it when they go to holiday because we get to build holiday for water i love it it's great we have a bulk water sales built into our fee schedule and it's wonderful and we do it all the time at the shop you can come on down contractors or yeah yeah at this at the city roger this year for the most part i mean the ones at the park for those contractors [1:50:41] **Phil Entner**: no i think they were some people with some remote cabins they were not from oh they weren't even from moose like companies yep so well is there some more you can issue them a ticket [1:50:50] **Aaron Ingraham**: there's nothing if you don't have a city ordinance regulating it or some type of stage statute regarding it [1:50:55] **Aaron Ingraham**: there's probably nothing we can really do if you want to post it and say a two gallon minimum you know or something like that that might be something to go and talk to them about if we don't get something passed into the city ordinance about it um there's really nothing we can enforce [1:51:10] **Phil Entner**: so it'd be very simple to turn a couple of them back on and that's no problem but i guarantee you we will be right back to the same situation and i mean i know it might be just a little water but at the end of the day we make money on water and that's the city's money yeah and if i'm in charge of that department i want to be as due diligent to it as possible [1:51:30] **Walter Lower III**: can you put one gallon a minute restrictors on [1:51:34] **Phil Entner**: well you know we could put a pressure reducing valve on it they they make those ones that just squirt out a little bit for the wash the kid's feet [1:51:41] **Phil Entner**: well they do just uh down here they turn it on but then if you can put like a set screw or something that yeah pressure underneath what do you usually have on there that's why i mean they aren't going to take 500 gallons and if they do we're going to catch them that's a i didn't even think about that that's a great idea actually yeah yeah i didn't even know what's going on they used to do that up with the people they'd come in and they'd hook up this thing and they yeah with four or five hundred gallons of water so that's what you did you could have would just shut that faucet up [1:52:20] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: i mean how many would we like to see come back on because we can i'd be just fine you know they should be on all of them that old water the drinking fountain probably should not be put up especially because of copenhagen 19 right now is there one closest to the beach because it sounds like that's the main [1:52:41] **Phil Entner**: we'll have to look i'm sure there we can get the one that's closest to the beach is it just one of them there's the one by the playground and there's one a little bit closer towards the entrance okay and then there's this sticker over by the villain right so i'll say this i just i literally i just bought a half inch brb reducing valve last this tuesday actually and it was 262 bucks so i mean i'm fine with this but if we want to go do all six or eight we don't [1:53:07] **Phil Entner**: want to spend 12 1400 bucks on interview so i would recommend maybe one maybe two or whatever place so they're spread apart so different parts of the park yeah for sure so i mean if you tell me how many you want on and we can just kind of do some easy math figure it out and we can have them on probably by the middle of next week [1:53:30] **Walter Lower III**: can't you do a section put the restrictor in one of the main lines go into a section and just you could excavate it up and get a big one if you want but i don't think that's in any way i think you would turn one over by the pavilion and the one in the playground that would be because the people could walk from band shelter up to the playground or across the street from the uh yeah what do you call that [1:53:54] **Walter Lower III**: the bingo place um you know over by the pavilion i think that would [1:54:02] **Phil Entner**: so those two yeah that makes sense yeah just so much to match up and by no by the playground and then over by the if i'm thinking the brown pavilion over there yeah they're just working there sure yeah we can we can definitely do that that's not a problem at all yeah this is actually the first complaint that i got about it not being on i think well it was just one individual and that's totally fine yep absolutely that's not a problem you probably saved us a lot of money since you did i i know we have because for what i mean the checks we're bringing you now for the little bit amount of a little bit of water we sell it's people don't buy water [1:54:41] **Phil Entner**: they will definitely yeah it's actually pretty impressive so yeah okay thank you yep no problem thank you walter let's see i think that's the last item from my new business moving on to reports and correspondence i have mom [1:54:56] **Ellissa Owens**: katie do you have anything very good moving on to committee and board meeting minutes we have uh the june 17 2020 planning commission then the may 13th and we put those we only have the one june 17 2020 planning commission announcements the regular new slave city council meeting wednesday august 12 2020 4 p.m right here [1:55:29] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: moose lake economic development authority wednesday july 15 20 20 12 p.m in the city conference room bruce lake water light commission regular meeting tuesday july 21st 2020 3 pm in the water light office moose lake housing and redevelopment authority board monday july 13 20 20 11 am hillside manor office loosa gary fire district tuesday july 14 2020 6 30 pm emergency response center loose lake park board meeting monday august 3rd 2020 6 30 pm at the city council chamber right here do i have a motion to adjourn so [1:56:11] **Council Member Douglas Juntunen**: so moved. [1:56:15] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: one second all in favor say aye adjourned thank you [1:56:33] you