[ ♪ MUSIC PLAYING ♪ ] >> Mayor Guajardo: GOOD MORNING. I'D LIKE TO CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER AND I WOULD LIKE TO WELCOME ALL OF YOU HERE TO CITY HALL AND TO OUR COUNCIL CHAMBERS. THIS MORNING OUR INVOCATION WILL BE GIVEN BY PASTOR STEVE CORONADO WITH SOLID ROCK CHURCH. >> THANK YOU. LET'S PRAY. I UNDERSTAND THIS IS THE LAST MEETING OF THE YEAR? >> Mayor Guajardo: IT IS THE LAST MEETING OF THE YEAR. >> GOING OUT WITH A BANG. LORD GOD, WE ARE GRATEFUL TODAY. SO, SO GRATEFUL FOR THIS YEAR, 2025, AND ALL THE BLESSINGS THAT YOU HAVE PROVIDED. LET US NEVER FORGET THAT YOU HAVE BEEN GOOD TO US. YOU HAVE PROVIDED FOR US. YOU HAVE BLESSED US. WE ARE THANKFUL AND FULL OF GRATITUDE. AS WE CLOSE OUT THIS YEAR AND THIS FINAL MEETING, I PRAY THAT, GOD, YOU WOULD GIVE OUR CITY AND THIS COUNCIL THE PREPARATION IN THEIR HEART FOR A NEW YEAR AND A NEW CORPUS CHRISTI. A NEW YEAR WITH NEW POSSIBILITIES NEW OPPORTUNITIES. LORD, THANK YOU THAT YOU WILL PROVIDE EVERYTHING WE NEED. YOU ARE A GOD OF ABUNDANCE AND SO I PRAY FOR THESE SERVANT LEADERS, OUR MAYOR, AND ALL THE CITY COUNCIL, CITY MANAGER, ALL THOSE WHO SERVE OUR CITY. LORD, GIVE THEM ABUNDANCE MINDSET, KNOWING THAT THE EARTH IS THE LORD'S IN THE FULLNESS THEREOF AND, GOD, YOU WILL PROVIDE EVERYTHING WE NEED. GIVE THEM LEADERSHIP, GUIDANCE, WISDOM, INTEGRITY TODAY AS THEY CLOSE OUT THIS YEAR TO PREPARE FOR A NEW YEAR AND A NEW CORPUS CHRISTI. WE THANK YOU AND WE BLESS YOU AND WE GIVE YOU PRAISE FOR ALL YOUR GOODNESS AND LOVE. OUR FATHER WHO ART IN HEAVEN, HALLOWED BE YOUR NAME. YOUR KINGDOM COME, YOUR WILL BE DONE ON EARTH AS IT IS IN HEAVEN. FORGIVE US OUR TRESPASSES AS WE FORGIVE THOSE WHO TRESPASS AGAINST US. LEAD US NOT INTO TEMPTATION BUT DELIVER US FROM EVIL FOR YOURS IS THE KINGDOM AND THE POWER AND THE GLORY FOREVER. AMEN . >> Mayor Guajardo: THANK YOU, PASTOR. AND TODAY OUR PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE UNITED STATES FLAG AND TO THE TEXAS STATE FLAG WILL BE LED BY MARIAH GARZA. SHE IS A 12th GRADER AT POR VIDA ACADEMY, A DUAL-CREDIT STUDENT, AND SHE PLANS TO OBTAIN A BACHELOR'S DEGREE IN CRIMINAL JUSTICE. >> PLEASE JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. [PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE] PLEASE JOIN ME IN HONORING THE TEXAS FLAG. [HONORING THE TEXAS FLAG] >> Mayor Guajardo: MARIAH, THANK YOU. GOOD LUCK WITH YOUR STUDIES. MS. HUERTA, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? [ROLL CALL] >> City Secretary: MS. PAXSON PLANS TO JOIN US BY WEBEX. MAYOR AND COUNCIL, A QUORUM OF THE COUNCIL AND THE REQUIRED CHARTER OFFICERS ARE PRESENT TO CONDUCT THE MEETING. >> Mayor Guajardo: THANK YOU, MS. HUERTA. BEFORE WE GET GOING, A COUPLE OF THINGS. I JUST WANT TO WELCOME -- I KNOW WE HAVE SOME GUESTS FROM OUT OF TOWN. WE HAVE THE MATHIS CITY MANAGER, CEDRIC DAVIS, ROBERT. OUR ALICE CITY MANAGER, BEEVILLE CITY MANAGER, AND BENNY PUENTE, THE MAYOR PRO TEM. IN THE SPIRIT OF GETTING YOU BACK TO YOUR CITIES, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ITEM 31 UP AFTER OUR BOARD AND COMMITTEE APPOINTMENTS. ITEM 31 WILL BE MOVED UP RIGHT AFTER WE DO OUR BOARD APPOINTMENTS. THANK YOU FOR JOINING US TODAY, GENTLEMEN. WITH THAT, WE'RE GOING TO GO BACK TO SECTION E, OUR CITY MANAGER'S COMMENTS AND UPDATE AND CITY OPERATIONS. 1 THROUGH 7. THAT'S A RECORD. >> Zanoni: WE HAD A LOT OF THINGS HAPPEN LAST WEEK SO WE THOUGHT WE WOULD GET IN FRONT OF THE COUNCIL ON THESE ITEMS . WE DO HAVE SEVEN CITY MANAGER REPORT ITEMS. I'LL DO THE FIRST ONE. WE WILL PUT UP THE PRESENTATION. THIS ONE HERE IS OUR FOURTH QUARTER FINANCIAL REPORT. THIS IS FOR THE PRIOR FISCAL YEAR, FOR FISCAL YEAR '25. AND THAT CONCLUDED AT THE END OF SEPTEMBER. THESE ARE THE LAST THREE MONTHS OF THAT FISCAL YEAR. AS YOU MAY RECALL, EACH OF THE QUARTERS, AFTER THE CONCLUSION OF EACH OF THE QUARTERS I PRESENT TO THE CITY COUNCIL. WE DO A REAL GOOD JOB, THIS CITY HAS DONE FOR MANY YEARS, PUTTING OUT A FINANCIAL REPORT. THIS IS A 73-PAGE DOCUMENT THAT I'LL SUMMARIZE IN A FEW MINUTES WITH THE COUNCIL. BUT THIS IS AVAILABLE FOR THE COMMUNITY. IT'S ON OUR WEBSITE AND IT'S DISTRIBUTED TO COUNCIL AS WELL. WE ARE GOING TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE FOURTH QUARTER REPORT. THESE ARE UNAUDITED FIGURES. THROUGH THE PERIOD OF OCTOBER 1, 2024 THROUGH SEPTEMBER 30, 2025. ALL FIGURES THAT I'LL DISCUSS TODAY ARE PRELIMINARY BECAUSE THERE IS A COMPREHENSIVE YEAR-END CLOSEOUT PROCESS. THE FINAL INFORMATION PRESENTED TODAY PRIMARILY HAS BEEN ASSUMED IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE '26 BUDGET. SO ANY REVENUES AND EXCESSIVE BUDGET AND ANY EXPENDITURES LESS THAN PLANNED, GENERALLY HAVE BEEN ASSUMED IN THE '26 BUDGET DEVELOPMENT. OUR YEAR-END CLOSEOUT FOR FISCAL YEAR '25 IS GUIDED BY STATE LAW AND CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS OF THE CITY COUNCIL. WE BEGAN THE FINANCIAL AUDIT ON OCTOBER OF 2025. THAT'S DONE BY AN OUTSIDE AUDITING FIRM. IT'S NOT THE CITY AUDITOR, IT'S A COMPANY WE HAVE USED FOR SEVERAL YEARS NOW, WEAVER AND ASSOCIATES. SO IT'S AN INDEPENDENT FINANCIAL AUDIT THAT'S DONE ON OUR BOOKS, ESSENTIALLY. AND PROVIDES SOME SEPARATION OF CONTROL TO MAKE SURE OUR FINANCES ARE IN GOOD SHAPE. BY DECEMBER NOW WE'RE FINALIZING THE YEAR-END CLOSEOUT PROCESS WITH ALL THE CITY DEPARTMENTS AND THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT. IN MARCH, THE ANNUAL COMPREHENSIVE FINANCIAL REPORT WILL BE PRESENTED TO, FIRST, THE AUDIT COMMITTEE AND THEN THE FULL CITY COUNCIL. YOU MAY REMEMBER LAST YEAR WE HANDED OUT THE BOOKS TO YOU ALL. WE'RE GOING TO DO A LITTLE BIT PRE-WORK WITH YOU THIS YEAR TO SIT DOWN WITH YOU TO GO THROUGH THAT AUDIT REPORT BECAUSE IT DOES HAVE A LOT OF GOOD FINANCIAL INFORMATION IN THERE. SO THIS MORNING I'LL COVER SOME OF THE MAJOR FUNDS, STARTING WITH OUR GENERAL FUND. YOU HAVE SEEN THIS CHART BEFORE. BUT THIS IS OUR GENERAL FUND REVENUES FOR LAST FISCAL YEAR. THE DETAILS IN THE MIDDLE. BUT IF WE LOOK AT THE BOTTOM ROW, WE BUDGETED $334 MILLION LAST YEAR. WHEN WE WERE DEVELOPING THE BUDGET THIS SUMMER, WE ASSUMED PRETTY MUCH THAT, $334 MILLION. AS WE CLOSE OUT THE YEAR AND RECEIVE ALL THE REVENUES THAT WE EITHER ANTICIPATED OR DID ANTICIPATE, WE'RE CLOSING $5.6 MILLION BETTER. THAT'S A GOOD CHRISTMAS PRESENT FOR THE CITY. YOU CAN SEE IN THE DETAIL WHY THAT IS. $6.5MILLION BETTER. WE RECEIVED BETTER IN OUR PROPERTY TAXES FROM THE APPRAISAL REVIEW BOARD PROCESS . OUR SALES TAX CAME IN A LITTLE BIT BETTER, WHICH IS GOOD. WE WERE REAL CLOSE ON THAT ONE. SOLID WASTE BROUGHT IN A LITTLE BIT MORE REVENUE FROM RECYCLING AND FROM DISPOSAL REVENUE FROM OUR PRIVATE HAULERS. THE INTEREST, INTERFUND, AND INTERGOVERNMENTAL FUND IS FROM OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT, WHERE YOU MAY RECALL THROUGH THE SUMMER MONTHS AND OTHER TIMES IN THE YEAR WE DEPLOYED BASED ON THE STATE REQUEST FOR SERVICES. WE GET REIMBURSED. SO THE REVENUES ARE LOOKING GOOD. THEY ARE $6.5 MILLION BETTER. THIS SHOWS YOU GRAPHICICALLY, COUNCILWOMAN CAMPOS ASKED WE DO THIS SEVERAL QUARTERS AGO. WE REALLY ONLY HAVE TWO MAJOR REVENUES SOURCES: PROPERTY TAX, INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT IN LIEU OF, WHICH IS A FORM OF A PROPERTY TAX REVENUE, OF SORTS. AND THEN SALES TAX. THOSE TWO COMPRISE MORE THAN 50% OF OUR REVENUES. YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE OTHERS, INCLUDING OUR SOLID WASTE FEE. ON THIS NEXT SLIDE HERE, THIS SHOWS US THE STORY FOR THE YEAR-END FOR OUR GENERAL FUND EXPENDITURES. THE SAME THING, IF WE LOOK AT THE BOTTOM, THE BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR '25 WAS $363 MILLION, APPROXIMATELY. WE ESTIMATED A LITTLE BIT LESS THAN THAT BASED ON SPENDING TRENDS THROUGH THE SUMMER MONTHS AT $354.7 MILLION. WHEN WE CLOSE EVERYTHING OUT, WE'RE JUST UNDER 350. SO $349.3 MILLION. A LITTLE BIT BETTER ON SPENDING, WHICH IS GOOD. WE DON'T WANT TO UNDERINVEST IN THE COMMUNITY. SO A GOOD BENCHMARK IS WHEN YOU CLOSE THE YEAR, IF YOUR VARIANCE IS UP TO ABOUT 5%, THEN THAT'S GENERALLY A GOOD PRACTICE. THE VARIANCE THAT WE SEE HERE AT THE 349 IS 1.5% FROM THE ASSUMED VARIANCE. SO THAT'S GOOD. WE DON'T WANT TO UNDERESTIMATE WHAT WE'RE GOING TO SPEND AND COME IN OVER. BUT YOU ALSO DON'T WANT TO COME IN WITH A LOT OF EXCESS FUNDS BECAUSE THAT MIGHT MEAN YOU'RE NOT PROVIDING TO THE COMMUNITY WHAT WE SAID WE WOULD. THE UNAUDITED ACTUALS IS $5.4 MILLION LESS SPENDING, WHICH IS MORE REVENUE TO THE CITY TO HELP SOFTEN THE '26 BUDGET. THERE'S NOTHING REALLY THAT JUMPS OUT. THERE'S A FEW AREAS TO HIGHLIGHT INCLUDING THE INDUSTRIAL IN LIEU OF. YOU CAN SEE PUBLIC SAFETY IS OUR MOST BASIC AND LARGEST EXPENSE IN OUR GENERAL FUND. THAT INCLUDES OUR POLICE AND FIRE. IT'S PRETTY CONSISTENT ACROSS TEXAS AND MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENTS. PUBLIC SAFETY IS THE BIGGEST PART OF YOUR BUDGET. STREETS AND THEN SOLID WASTE. YOU CAN SEE THERE AS WELL. SO THIS SUMMARY CHART HERE SUMMARIZES THE ENDING -- THE BEGINNING BALANCE AND THE ENDING BALANCE ON THE NEXT CHART. AND THIS IS WHAT YOU GENERALLY LOOK FOR WHEN YOU DO A YEAR-END CLOSEOUT. THE QUESTION IS HOW CLOSE DID WE COME TO WHAT WE THOUGHT WE WOULD BE, THE ENDING MARK FOR '25. AND SO IF YOU WALK THROUGH THIS, THE BEGINNING BALANCE FOR '25 BUDGET WAS $96.6 MILLION WITH OUR REVENUES AND EXPENSES THAT WERE PLANNED -- NOT PLANNED, BUT THE ACTUAL. AND THEN THE CARRY-FORWARD OR ROLLOVERS, $6.5 MILLION. WHEN YOU TAKE THE BEGINNING BALANCE PLUS THE REVENUES MINUS THE EXPENSES, MINDS THE ROLLOVER. $88.3MILLION IS THE ENDING BALANCE. $88.3MILLION IS WHAT WE SEEMED. ACTUALLY, THAT IS THE ENDING BALANCE. THE ESTIMATED WAS $76.4 MILLION. SO WE DO BETTER BY CLOSE TO $12 MILLION, $11.9 MILLION, WHICH IS GOOD. OKAY. AND SO THAT WAS THE GENERAL FUND. THE HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX REVENUE IS THE OTHER ONE WE LOOK AT CLOSELY. THIS ONE IS GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT HARD TO EXPLAIN. YOU CAN SEE THE BUDGET WAS $19.9 MILLION. WE ESTIMATED $19 MILLION AND WE KNEW WE EXPECTED TO COME IN LESS THAN BUDGET FOR THE HOT TAX, BASED ON LESS BOOKINGS THROUGH THE SUMMER MONTHS. THE ACTUAL, THOUGH, WAS $20.2 MILLION, WHICH IS MORE THAN THE ESTIMATE. AND THAT'S BECAUSE WE'RE FINALLY BOOKING THE REVENUES APPROPRIATELY AND SO YOU HAVE TO RECORD THE REVENUES IN THE MONTHS THEY'RE ACTUALLY EARNED. WE HAD TO BOOK TO GET THIS THING CAUGHT UP, A 13th MONTH. THAT'S WHAT THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT AND OUR EXTERNAL AUDITOR HAS RECOMMENDED. SO FOR ONLY THIS FISCAL YEAR WE'LL HAVE THESE 13 MONTHS. THIS WILL EVENTUALLY BE LOST IN THE TRANSITION AS WE GO TO THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR WHERE WE'LL HAVE 12 MONTHS. AND THEN IN OUR TWO UTILITY FUNDS THAT ARE OF HIGH IMPORTANCE TO US. THE WATER FUND AND THE WASTEWATER. THE WATER FUND, THE REVENUES WERE 169.6 WAS THE BUDGET. WE ESTIMATED LESS THAN THAT. BUT ACTUALLY CAME IN JUST A LITTLE BIT OVER THE BUDGET AT 169.9. AND THEN ON THE EXPENSES, SIMILARLY, WE HAD A BUDGET OF $181.7 MILLION. WE ESTIMATED A LITTLE LESS BUT ACTUALLY WE'LL CLOSE OUT THE YEAR AT 173.2, WHICH IS STILL UNDER THE BUDGET. SOME OF THAT VARIANCE IS FROM MORE CHEMICAL COSTS THAN WHAT WE ANTICIPATED. ALSO, WE BOOKED SOME OF THE WATER SUPPLY PROJECTS IN THIS BUDGET TO INCLUDE ACQUISITION OF PROPERTY WHERE WE HAVE SOME OF OUR WESTERN WELLS. AND THEN IN THE WASTEWATER FUND, SIMILAR STORY. PRETTY DECENT HERE. THE REVENUES WERE 98.6 AND WE ESTIMATED A LITTLE LESS THAN THAT BUT ACTUALLY CAME IN JUST UNDER THE BUDGET, 98.2. THAT'S GOOD. ON THE EXPENSES, $116 MILLION WAS THE BUDGET BUT SAVINGS, BOTH IN THE ESTIMATE AND THEN THE ACTUAL AT 110.6. THEN TRANSITIONING TO THE OTHER PART OF OUR BUDGET, WHICH IS OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN. THESE ARE LARGE PROJECTS THAT ARE PRIMARILY FUNDED THROUGH VOTER-APPROVED BOND PROGRAMS OR WE DON'T SHOW THEM HERE, BUT OUR UTILITY OPERATION HAS A LOT OF CAPITAL INVESTMENT AS WELL. THREE BOND PROGRAMS THAT THE VOTERS APPROVED ARE LISTED HERE. THE 2024 BOND, 2022, AND THE 2020. IF WE LOOK AT THE 2020 BOND PROGRAM, ALMOST ALL PROJECTS ARE COMPLETED. 38 PROJECTS COMPLETED THERE. FOUR ARE FINALIZING CONSTRUCTION. AND THE BOND 2022, THAT WAS $125 MILLION OVERALL, 32 PROJECTS, SEVEN COMPLETE, 11 UNDER CONSTRUCTION, AND 14 ARE NEARING COMPLETION ON DESIGN. THE MOST RECENT BOND OF $175 MILLION WITH 38 PROJECTS. EIGHT PROJECTS ARE UNDER CONSTRUCTION. 28 ARE UNDER DESIGN, INCLUDING TWO OTHER PROJECTS THAT WERE IN PRE-DESIGN. SO ON THE SUMMARY FOR THE FOURTH QUARTER FINANCIAL REPORT THEN, THE GENERAL FUND REVENUES AND EXPENSES ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE PROJECTIONS EXCEPT FOR THAT CLOSE TO $12 MILLION, WHICH IS GOOD. THAT ADDITIONAL MONEY, WE'LL USE IN THE '27 BUDGET. SO IT'S GOOD TO START OFF A LITTLE BIT BETTER THAN WHAT YOU THOUGHT. WE'LL HAVE TO SEE HOW THE ECONOMY CONTINUES TO DO THIS YEAR. WE DON'T RECOMMEND SPENDING ANY OF THAT MONEY, RATHER SAVING IT TO BEGIN THE NEXT BUDGETED YEAR. AND THAT'S THE POSITION WE WANT TO BE IN. THIS IS A GOOD NEWS STORY FOR THE CITY. WATER, WASTEWATER REVENUES ARE CONSISTENT. AND WE CONTINUE WITH A STRONG DELIVERY OF THE CIP PROGRAM. OKAY. SO THE NEXT STEPS FOR FINANCIAL PLANNING HERE FOR THE CITY COUNCIL. THIS IS ACTUALLY SOME PRETTY BIG ONES COMING UP AS WE LOOK AT THE '27 BUDGET. WE WILL BE BACK IN FEBRUARY WITH THE FIRST QUARTER BUDGET AND FINANCIAL REPORT FOR THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR. THAT WILL BE OCTOBER, NOVEMBER, DECEMBER. THEN IN MARCH, THAT'S WHEN WE'LL PRESENT TO THE COUNCIL, FIRST TO THE COMMITTEE AND THEN THE FULL COUNCIL, OUR COMPREHENSIVE ANNUAL FINANCIAL REPORT FOR FISCAL YEAR '25. AND THEN EARLY 2026, OUR BUDGET PROCESS IS GOING TO BEGIN AGAIN FOR THE 2027 BUDGET. THAT INCLUDES OUR FINANCIAL FORECAST THAT WE'LL PRESENT TO CITY COUNCIL SHOWING US THE PROJECTIONS FOR THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS. WE'LL DO BUDGET GOAL SETTINGS WITH THE CITY COUNCIL, AS WE'VE DONE JUST ABOUT EVERY YEAR. AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO DO WHAT THIS COUNCIL HAS ASKED FOR AS WELL IS MORE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT EARLIER IN THE PROCESS. SO WE'LL KEEP THE COUNCIL AND THE COMMUNITY INFORMED ON THAT BECAUSE WE'LL WANT THEIR PARTICIPATION AND SOME OF THEIR GOALS FOR THE NEXT BUDGET. MAYOR, THAT CONCLUDES THIS PRESENTATION. AND I'M HERE AND I THINK AMY AND JOHN ARE HERE FROM THE BUDGET OFFICE, IF WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS I CAN'T ANSWER, THEY'LL HELP. >> Mayor Guajardo: THANK YOU, PETER. I DON'T SEE ANY -- OH, COUNCILWOMAN CAMPOS? >> Campos: I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR INCLUDING THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT. I DON'T KNOW HOW SOON WE'RE GOING TO GET STARTED ON THAT, BUT THAT IS SUPER IMPORTANT BECAUSE I THINK THE COMMUNITY IS VERY ENGAGED, AS YOU KNOW. WE HAVE, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE WATCHING WHAT WE DO. SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THEY PARTICIPATE AS PART OF THE BUDGET. AGAIN, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR DOING THAT. >> Zanoni: THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN. >> Campos: BUT THE ONLY THING IS DO WE KNOW WHEN WE'RE GOING TO START? WHEN DOES THE CITY STAFF -- >> Zanoni: MARCH TIME-FRAME, COUNCILWOMAN. THE MARCH TIME-FRAME. >> Campos: ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. >> Zanoni: IS THAT SOON ENOUGH? >> Campos: [OFF MIC] ONLY BECAUSE IF THE CITY STAFF IS STARTING IN MARCH, THEN MAYBE WE NEED TO BE STARTING IN FEBRUARY. I DON'T KNOW. THAT'S WHAT I NEED TO KNOW. >> Zanoni: ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS WE'LL BE WORKING ON IN JANUARY IS THAT COMPREHENSIVE CALENDAR. WE'LL SHOW THAT TO COUNCIL AT ONE OF THESE FIRST COUNCIL MEETINGS. >> Campos: THANKS. >> Zanoni: OKAY. GREAT. THANK YOU, MAYOR. WE'RE GOING TO TURN NOW TO ITEM NO. 2, WHICH IS A TIMELY ITEM. IT'S RESTAURANT LICENSING AND INSPECTION FEES. AND OUR HEALTH DIRECTOR, DR. ANITA KURIAN IS GOING TO PRESENT THIS TO COUNCIL. THE REASON WE'RE PRESENTING IT TODAY IS WE'RE MANDATED BY THE STATE, THROUGH THIS LAST LEGISLATIVE SESSION, TO CHANGE SOME OF OUR FEES FOR RESTAURANT AND FOOD-HANDLING INSPECTION. THERE'S A WHOLE SET OF -- I THINK IT'S 30 OR 60 DAYS OF COMMENT PERIOD. AND SO AS WE INFORM THE RESTAURANTEERS AND FOOD HANDLERS, YOU MAY GET QUESTIONS. A MEMO WAS SENT LAST WEEK THAT SUMMARIZES THIS BUT DR. ANITA IS GOING TO BRIEF THE COUNCIL AND THE COMMUNITY THAT'S WATCHING. THERE WILL BE A SERIES OF CHANGES. >> GOOD MORNING, MAYOR AND THE COUNCIL. AS PETER MENTIONED, I'M HERE THIS MORNING TO UPDATE YOU ON THE FEE UPDATES THAT WE ARE PROPOSING WITH REGARDS TO THE LOCAL FOOD ESTABLISHMENTS. THIS IS TO ENSURE COMPLIANCE WITH THE SENATE BILL 1008 THAT TOOK EFFECT IN SEPTEMBER 1, 2025, EARLIER THIS YEAR. I'M SORRY. I'M STILL TRYING TO GET ORIENTED TO THIS PLACE. HERE'S THE OVERVIEW OF THE SENATE BILL 1008 THAT I WAS MENTIONING EARLIER. DURING THIS LAST LEGISLATIVE SESSION, THE TEXAS LEGISLATURE ENACTED THE SENATE BILL 1008, WHICH ESTABLISHES LIMITATIONS ON THE AUTHORITY OF THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT ENTITIES. THAT INCLUDES MUNICIPALITIES, PUBLIC HEALTH DISTRICTS, LIKE US, COUNTIES, ET CETERA. TO IMPOSE FEE RELATED TO THE REGULATIONS OF THE FOOD SERVICE INDUSTRY. SPECIFICALLY, SENATE BILL 1008 LAYS OUT THAT LOCAL ENTITIES CANNOT CHARGE THEIR LOCAL FOOD SERVICE ESTABLISHMENTS A FEE THAT EXCEEDS WHAT THE STATE IS CURRENTLY CHARGING. SO WHAT YOU WILL SEE HERE TODAY IS OUR EFFORT TO DO A COMPREHENSIVE REVIEW OF OUR FEE SCHEDULE. WE'VE ALREADY COMPLETED THAT IN AN EFFORT TO ALIGN THE INTENT, WHICH IS SENATE BILL 1008. MANY JURISDICTIONS, ALMOST ALL MAJOR CITIES IN THE STATE OF TEXAS, HAVE ALREADY DONE THIS. THEY ARE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THIS, THIS STATE BILL THAT TOOK EFFECT EARLIER THIS MONTH. THIS IS OUR EFFORT TO DO THE SAME HERE AS WELL. HERE'S THE FOOD SERVICE ESTABLISHMENT PERMIT FEE THAT CONTRASTS WHAT OUR CURRENT FEE IS, WHAT THE STATE FEE IS, AND WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING. THE TABLE ON THE LEFT LAYS OUT OUR FEES, WHICH ARE CURRENTLY BASED ON THE NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES. SO AN ESTABLISHMENT THAT HAS LESS THAN 10 EMPLOYEES CURRENTLY GET CHARGED A PERMIT FEE OF $225 HERE LOCALLY BY US. AND AS THE NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES INCREASES, YOU'LL SEE THE INCREASE IN THE PERMIT FEE. PERMIT FEE HERE VARIES FROM $225 TO $880, AGAIN, DEPENDING UPON THE NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES THAT THE FOOD SERVICE ESTABLISHMENT HAS. WE ALSO CHARGE ESTABLISHMENTS THAT SELL PRE-PACKAGED, NON-HAZARDOUS FOOD, WHICH IS YOUR SHELF-STABLE FOOD ITEMS THAT DON'T NEED ANY TEMPERATURE OR TIME CONTROL FOR SAFETY MEASURES. THESE ARE YOUR BAG OF CHIPS, YOUR BAG OF BEEF JERKY, CANDY THAT GETS SOLD IN YOUR HARDWARE STORE, RETAIL PHARMACY STORES, EVEN DOLLAR STORES. AT THIS TIME WE PERMIT THOSE ENTITIES AND CHARGE THEM A PERMIT FEE OF $125. THE TABLE ON THE RIGHT SHOWS WHAT THE STATE IS DOING CURRENTLY. THIS IS THE INTENT TO ALIGN WITH WHAT THE STATE IS DOING WITH REGARDS TO THESE PERMIT FEES. AS YOU CAN SEE, THE STATE DOES NOT USE THE NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES AS A CRITERIA TO DETERMINE THE PERMIT FEES. THEY USE THE GROSS ANNUAL FOOD SALES TO DETERMINE WHERE THE PERMIT FEE SHOULD BE FOR THAT PARTICULAR ESTABLISHMENT. THOSE FEES RANGE FROM $258 TO $773. AN ESTABLISHMENT THAT MAKES LESS THAN $50,000 GROSS ANNUAL FOOD SALES SHOULD GET A PERMIT FEE CHARGE OF $258. AN ESTABLISHMENT MAKING MORE THAN $150,000 OR REPORTING MORE THAN $150,000 GROSS FOR ANNUAL SALES GET A PERMIT FEE OF $773, WHICH IS WHAT THE STATE IS DOING. THE COLUMN ON THE FAR RIGHT IS WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING, WHICH, AS YOU CAN SEE, MIRRORS EXACTLY WHAT THE STATE IS DOING. THIS IS TO ALIGN WITH THE STATE LEGISLATION THAT HAS GONE INTO EFFECT. HERE ARE FOOD SERVICE ESTABLISHMENT INSPECTION AND REINSPECTION FEES. AS YOU SEE UP THERE, INSPECTION FEES ARE ONLY APPLICABLE TO NEW ESTABLISHMENTS. AND THESE ARE CONDUCTED TO VERIFY COMPLIANCE WITH HEALTH AND SAFETY STANDARDS BEFORE AN ESTABLISHMENT STARTS SERVING FOOD AND BECOMES OPERATIONAL. SO RIGHT NOW, WE DON'T CHARGE ANY FEES FOR THESE INSPECTIONS, ALTHOUGH WE PROVIDE THE SERVICE HERE CURRENTLY IN OUR JURISDICTION. STATE ALLOWS US TO CHARGE UP TO $150 FOR THOSE INSPECTION FEES. WE ARE PROPOSING AN INSPECTION FEE OF $100 AT THIS TIME. AGAIN, TO ALIGN WITH WHAT THE SENATE BILL REQUIRES US TO DO. REINSPECTIONS, WE DEFINE REINSPECTIONS AS A FOLLOW-UP VISIT TO CONFIRM THAT PREVIOUSLY-CITED VIOLATIONS HAVE BEEN CORRECTED AND THE ESTABLISHMENT IS BACK IN COMPLIANCE. AGAIN, WE PROVIDE THE SERVICE ON A REGULAR BASIS HERE. CURRENTLY OUR FEE IS $50. STATE ALLOWS US TO CHARGE UP TO $200 AND WE ARE PROPOSING A FEE UPDATE OF $150. I HOPE YOU APPRECIATE THAT WE ARE TRYING TO TAKE A BALANCED APPROACH TO COVERING OUR COST, NOT PLACING UNDUE BURDEN ON OUR SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS, YET ALIGNING WITH THE LEGISLATIVE INTENT. NEXT ONE IS THE FOOD SERVICE ESTABLISHMENT AMENDMENT FEE. AMENDMENT INCLUDES A CHANGE IN THE NAME OR CHANGE OF OWNERSHIP OF A FOOD ESTABLISHMENT. WE, AGAIN, CURRENTLY PROVIDE THIS SERVICE. WE DO -- ABOUT 5% OF OUR BUSINESSES GO THROUGH THIS ANNUALLY. WE DO PROVIDE THE SERVICE BUT WE HAVE NEVER BEEN CHARGING FOR THE SERVICE. SO STATE DOES DO AN AMENDMENT FEE. AGAIN, IT'S BASED ON THE GROSS FOOD ANNUAL SALES. YOU SEE UP THERE THE AMENDMENT FEE RANGES FROM $125 TO $375 DEPENDING ON YOUR GROSS ANNUAL FOOD SALES. WE ARE PROPOSING TO MIRROR WHAT THE STATE'S CHARGING AT THIS TIME. HERE'S THE MOBILE FOOD PERMIT AND AMENDMENT FEES. CURRENTLY, MOBILE FOOD UNITS GET CHARGED A FEE OF $260. 140 OF THAT 260 IS THE HEALTH PERMIT FEE. 120 OF THAT 260 IS THE VENDING PERMIT FEE. STATE CHARGES $250 FOR MOBILE FOOD UNITS. WE ARE PROPOSING TO DO THE SAME. AGAIN, LIKE BRICK AND MORTAR, WE HAVE NEVER CHARGED FOR ANY AMENDMENT FEES. STATE DOES ALLOW US TO CHARGE A FLAT FEE OF $125 FOR EVERY AMENDMENT TO THE PERMIT, EXISTING PERMIT THAT IS MADE. WE ARE PROPOSING TO DO THE SAME CHARGE, $125 FOR EVERY AMENDMENT THAT COMES TO OUR ATTENTION. HERE'S THE TEMPORARY FOOD ESTABLISHMENTS AND THIS IS CURRENTLY THE TABLE ON THE LEFT LAYS OUT WHAT WE DO CURRENTLY. SO A SINGLE EVENT, A ONE-DAY SINGLE EVENT WITH A FRIDAY NOTICE GETS CHARGED A PERMIT FEE OF $35, CURRENTLY. FOR EACH ADDITIONAL DAY OF THE EVENT, WE CHARGE $15. FOR INSTANCE, THERE IS AN EVENT FOR THREE DAYS, THE VENDOR GETS CHARGED. WE CHARGE A LATE PROCESSING FEE OF $70 IF THE PAYMENT IS MADE LESS THAN FIVE DAYS OF THE INITIAL START DATE OF THE EVENT ITSELF . IN CONTRAST, IF YOU SEE THE TABLE ON THE RIGHT, STATE DOES SOMETHING DIFFERENT ENTIRELY. THE STATE CHARGES A FLAT FEE OF $52 FOR A TEMPORARY EVENT PERMIT. AND THEY DEFINE A SINGLE TEMPORARY EVENT AS AN EVENT THAT COULD LAST ANYWHERE FROM ONE TO 14 CONSECUTIVE DAYS. SO IF A VENDOR IS APPLYING FOR A SINGLE EVENT THAT COULD LAST UP TO 14 DAYS, THEY GET CHARGED A PERMIT PLAT FEE OF $52. THEY ALSO PROVIDE THE TEMPORARY EVENT VENDORS AN OPTION TO PAY $200 FOR A PERMIT FOR A SINGLE-EVENT PERMIT THAT'S VALID FOR A PERIOD OF TWO YEARS. THEY CAN PAY $200 AND HAVE AS MANY SINGLE EVENTS AS POSSIBLE DURING THAT TWO-YEAR TIME-FRAME. WE ARE PROPOSING TO DO THE SAME. AGAIN, THIS IS TO ALIGN WITH THE STATE LAW THAT'S GONE INTO EFFECT ALREADY. AND IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE SENATE BILL 1008, IF YOU NOTICE, WE ARE PROPOSING TO ELIMINATE THAT LATE FEE. STATE DOES NOT CHARGE A LATE FEE AND WE ARE GOING TO DO THE SAME AS WELL. THAT'S OUR PROPOSAL. HERE'S THE SCHOOL-BASED ESTABLISHMENT FEES. CURRENTLY, WE INSPECT ABOUT 109 PUBLIC SCHOOLS BUT HAVE NEVER CHARGED FOR THOSE INSPECTIONS. AND THESE ARE INSPECTIONS THAT EVERY SCHOOL IS REQUIRED UNDER STATE LAW. THEY'RE REQUIRED TO HAVE TWO INSPECTIONS PER CALENDAR YEAR. AND WE HAVE NEVER CHARGED FOR THOSE SERVICES THAT WE PROVIDE. STATE CHARGES $150 PER INSPECTION. AND WE ARE PROPOSING TO DO THE SAME AS WELL. FOR PRIVATE AND PUBLIC SCHOOLS, STATE CHARGES A FLAT FEE OF $258. WE CURRENTLY DO NOT CHARGE ANY PERMIT FEE BUT WE ARE PROPOSING TO DO EXACTLY WHAT THE STATE'S BEEN DOING. HERE'S AN ADMINISTRATIVE DISCLAIMER. I WANT TO POINT OUT ALL THE PROPOSED FEES ARE SUBJECT TO CHANGE, DEPENDING ON THE STATE FEE SCHEDULE UPDATES. THIS IS TO KEEP IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE SENATE BILL 1008, WHICH CLEARLY STATES THAT ANY TIME STATE CHANGES THE FEES, WE ARE REQUIRED TO CHANGE TO MATCH THE STATE FEE. I KNOW THAT STATE DOES THE ANNUAL REVIEW OF THEIR FEE SCHEDULES, THE TIMING OF THIS FEE SCHEDULE IS GOING TO BE RELEASED, IT'S UNCERTAIN. IT'S NOT CLEAR OR PUBLICIZED ANYWHERE. IN THE URGENCY FOR US TO COMPLY WITH THE STATE LAW. TO ACHIEVE THAT STATUTORY COMPLIANCE THAT WE WERE REQUIRED TO ACHIEVE BACK IN SEPTEMBER 2025. THESE PROPOSED CHANGES WE ARE RECOMMENDING TODAY AND THAT YOU ARE SEEING TODAY IS EXACTLY THAT, TO ALIGN WITH THE LEGISLATIVE INTENT AND ACHIEVE AND MAINTAIN THAT STATUTORY COMPLIANCE THAT WE ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE. HERE ARE THE NEXT STEPS TOWARDS IMPLEMENTATION OF THE PROPOSED FEE, PENDING YOUR APPROVAL OF THESE PROPOSED FEES. I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT, AGAIN, THE SENATE BILL DOES NOT JUST LAY LIMITATIONS ON WHAT FEES WE CAN IMPOSE ON OUR FOOD ESTABLISHMENTS HERE, THEY HAVE ALSO INCLUDED A STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT REQUIREMENT, WHICH SAYS THAT WE ARE REQUIRED, BY LAW, TO GIVE ALL OUR PARTNERS, WHICH ARE OUR FOOD ESTABLISHMENTS SCHOOLS INCLUDING THE STATE, A 60-DAY NOTICE BEFORE WE IMPLEMENT ANY CHANGES. AND SO A 60-DAY -- THE CLOCK STARTS TICKING TOMORROW, DECEMBER 17th. WE WILL FINISH MAILING OUT ALL OUR PROPOSED FEE UPDATES, INCLUDING WHY WE ARE DOING THIS. THE COVER LETTER WILL CLEARLY STATE WHY WE ARE PROPOSING THESE CHANGES. THOSE WILL BE MAILED OUT TO ALL OUR FOOD ESTABLISHMENTS, MOBILE FOOD UNITS, TO SCHOOLS, INCLUDING THE STATE. WE ALSO MET WITH THEIR REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE LOCAL RESTAURANT ASSOCIATION LAST WEEK. HE'S AWARE OF THESE PROPOSED CHANGES. HE WAS ACTUALLY ON THE COMMITTEE THAT WORKED WITH THE STATE DIRECTLY TO CRAFT SOME OF THE KEY PROVISIONS OF THE LAW. THIS SENATE BILL 1008 WAS ACTUALLY PUT IN PLACE WAS LOBBIED AND PUT IN PLACE AND FULLY SUPPORTED BY THE TEXAS RESTAURANT ASSOCIATION, PRIMARILY TO STANDARDIZE FOOD ESTABLISHMENT REGULATIONS ACROSS THE STATE. SO THIS SHOULD NOT BE ANY SURPRISE FOR THEM. IT WAS NOT A SURPRISE TO THE REP FROM THE RESTAURANT ASSOCIATION WE MET. HE'S COMMITTED TO SHARING THAT PROPOSED FEE SCHEDULE WITH THE REST OF THE BOARD MEMBERS AS WELL. AND ALL THE MAILING OUT, ALL THE NOTIFICATIONS WILL BE COMPLETED TOMORROW. SO OUR 60-DAY CLOCK STARTS TICKING TOMORROW AND SHOULD END MID-FEBRUARY. THAT IS WHEN I'LL BE UP HERE PRESENTING THIS AGAIN FOR YOUR APPROVAL AS WELL AS AN OPTION. ALONG WITH THE FEE SCHEDULE, WE ARE WORKING CLOSELY WITH LEGAL TO UPDATE THE ORDINANCE TO REFLECT THESE PROPOSED FEE UPDATES AS WELL. SO FRUSTRATING -- YOU SEE THE DATE UP THERE, BY MID-FEBRUARY, IF APPROVED, IT WILL BE ADOPTED. THE NEW FEE SCHEDULE WILL BE IMPLEMENTED MARCH 2, 2026. WITHIN 30 DAYS, WHICH IS A REQUIREMENT OF THE SENATE BILL 1008, WITHIN 30 DAYS OF IMPLEMENTATION, NOW LOCAL MUNICIPALITIES ARE REQUIRED TO SEND THE STATE TO UPDATE THEIR STATE REGISTRY WITH THE UPDATED FEE SCHEDULES AND OUR ORDINANCE. SO THAT PRETTY MUCH CONCLUDES THIS PRESENTATION AND HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. >> Mayor Guajardo: THANK YOU, DR. KURIAN. WE APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION. COUNCILMAN CANTU. >> Cantu: THANK YOU, MAYOR. CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG. SO THE STATE IS JUST ASKING US OR TELLING US TO CHANGE THE FEES? >> THE STATE IS TELLING US. IT IS STATE LAW. SO THE LAW TOOK EFFECT ON SEPTEMBER 1, 2026. SO IT IS REQUIRED UNDER STATE LAW THAT WE COMPLY AND MATCH OUR FEES TO THAT OF THE STATE FEES. >> Cantu: SO WE HAVE TO MATCH THESE FEES? >> YEAH. IF YOU LOOK AT THE -- YES. WE HAVE TO MATCH THESE FEES, ESPECIALLY IF THEY ARE DRASTICALLY DIFFERENT. IF YOU LOOK AT OUR RESTAURANT PERMIT FEES, RIGHT NOW OUR PERMIT FEE IS BASED ON THE NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES. THE STATE DOES THE GROSS ANNUAL FOOD SALES. >> Cantu: BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, FOR A SMALL RESTAURANT, WHICH THE STATE'S OUT OF TOUCH WITH THE RESTAURANTS HERE IN CORPUS CHRISTI. WE HAD TEN RESTAURANTS GO OUT OF BUSINESS, CHAIN RESTAURANTS. AND NOW WE HAVE SMALL BUSINESSES STRUGGLING. ONE THROUGH TEN WAS A PRETTY REASONABLE PRICE, $225. AND THEY PROBABLY AVERAGE ABOUT 150K A YEAR, 15K A MONTH. BUT FOR A SMALL BUSINESS LIKE THAT, THEY'RE GOING TO END UP PAYING $800? >> YEAH. >> Cantu: THAT'S RIDICULOUS. WOW. >> ONCE AGAIN, I WANT TO STRESS, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THE STATE DID NOT DECIDE. WE DID NOT DECIDE. IT'S THE TEXAS STATE RESTAURANT ASSOCIATION THAT LOBBIED. ONE OF THE PRODUCTS IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE HIGHLIGHTING. >> Cantu: MILES, DO WE HAVE TO FOLLOW THESE PRICES? >> Risley: THESE ARE MAXIMUMS. HOWEVER -- >> Cantu: THEY ARE MAXIMUM? >> Risley: KEEP IN MIND, THEY CHANGED THE BASIS FOR THE CHARGE. BECAUSE YOU CHANGE THE BASIS OF THE CHARGE SO DRAMATICALLY, YOU DON'T HAVE THE OPTION OF RELYING ON YOUR OLD FEES. BECAUSE WE CHARGE BASED ON NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES. THEY CHARGE, THE NEW STATE REGULATIONS REQUIRE THEM TO BE ON THE BASIS OF THE GROSS OF THE INCOME. >> Cantu: SO THE MAXIMUM IS 773 FOR $150,000 OR MORE. SO WE COULD CHARGE $300 IF WE WANTED TO? >> Zanoni: THE ANSWER IS YES, COUNCILMAN. THERE WILL BE A LENGTHY DISCUSSION ON THE BUSINESS OF THIS WITH THE COUNCIL IN THAT FEBRUARY TIME-FRAME. THESE ARE RECOMMENDED, BASED ON OUR LOCAL ECONOMY, OTHER ENTITIES IN THE STATE OF TEXAS. AND THEN THE COST TO GO OUT AND INSPECT. SO WE HAVE TO SHOW YOU THE OTHER SIDE OF THE EQUATION, WHICH IS IF WE DON'T COLLECT ENOUGH REVENUE FROM THE ACTUAL INSPECTIONS, IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO COME FROM OTHER SOURCES IN THE GENERAL FUND. MEANING, WE'LL HAVE TO CUT SOMEWHERE ELSE, POTENTIALLY. >> Cantu: I THINK WE NEED TO CUT IT BECAUSE THIS IS A LOT OF MONEY FOR SMALL BUSINESSES HERE IN CORPUS CHRISTI. THERE'S RESTAURANTS GOING OUT OF BUSINESS TODAY. I MEAN, IT'S TOUGH TO RUN A RESTAURANT RIGHT NOW. AND EVERYTHING IS SO EXPENSIVE. BUT I WILL NOT SUPPORT THIS. YOU GOT TO BRING SOMETHING BETTER THAN $773. I MEAN, THAT'S GOING TO BE THE AVERAGE, IF YOU HAVE ONE THROUGH TEN EMPLOYEES. IF THEY'RE NOT MAKING $150,000 OR MORE A YEAR, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE IN BUSINESS. EVERYONE'S MAKING THAT KIND OF MONEY. $500 BUCKS A DAY OR MORE, I'M SURE ALL OF THESE RESTAURANTS AND CAFES ARE MAKING AT LEAST $500 A DAY. BUT CHARGING $773, THAT'S RIDICULOUS. >> Mayor Guajardo: COUNCILWOMAN VAUGHN. >> Vaughn: I'M SURE THE STATE DID THIS BECAUSE THERE WERE SOME CITIES THAT WERE CHARGING WAY TOO MUCH. CORPUS CHRISTI OBVIOUSLY ISN'T. I AGREE WITH YOU. I THINK WHAT THEY'RE TELLING YOU IS YOU CAN CHARGE THE MAX. THAT'S THE MAXIMUM. YOU CAN GO UNDER THAT. I DON'T WANT TO BEAT THEM TO DEATH. WE ARE CHARGED SO MUCH BY FEDERAL, STATE, LOCAL TAXES. WE NEED TO TRY AND BE FAIR. I'M HOPING YOU COME BACK WITH SOME THINGS THAT ARE LOWER. I CERTAINLY DO NOT WANT TO CHARGE THE MAXIMUM. THANK YOU. >> Mayor Guajardo: COUNCILWOMAN CAMPOS. >> Campos: AGAIN, I WANT TO ECHO WHAT MY FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE SAYING. HERE WE HAVE THE STATE WITH A $33 BILLION SURPLUS. A $33 BILLION SURPLUS AND THEN NICKEL AND DIMING US, THE SMALL BUSINESSES. IT'S PROBABLY TO THE BIGGER CITIES BUT I THINK WE NEED TO DO A LITTLE BIT BETTER WITH OUR OWN SMALL BUSINESSES AND RESTAURANTS AND SO FORTH. I'M REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO A ROBUST DISCUSSION. AND HOPEFULLY THE RESTAURATEURS WILL BE LISTENING TO THIS AND WANT TO GET MORE INVOLVED. >> Mayor Guajardo: PETER, YOU SAID IN FEBRUARY YOU'RE GOING TO BRING THIS BACK TO REALLY HOLISTICALLY LOOK AT IT? >> Zanoni: LET ME DOUBLE CHECK THAT HERE. FEBRUARY 17 IS THE PLANNED FIRST READING. IF WE CAN MAYBE PUT THAT SLIDE UP. THERE'S A 60-DAY STAKEHOLDER NOTICE THAT BEGINS DECEMBER 17. THAT'S WHY WE'RE PRESENTING THIS TO YOU TODAY, TO PUT IT ON OUR RADAR. BECAUSE THE STAKEHOLDER COMMUNITIES, THE RESTAURANT OWNERS, SCHOOLS, AND MOBILE VENDORS WILL START GETTING INFORMATION FROM US. THIS 60 DAYS THAT WE HAVE TO GIVE THEM TO GIVE COMMENT. THEN WE'LL COME TO CITY COUNCIL ON FEBRUARY 17 WITH A FEE ADJUSTMENT. WE'LL DO SOME MEETINGS WITH THE COUNCIL, IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS. WE DO HAVE TO SHOW THE OTHER SIDE OF THE EQUATION, WHICH IS THE EXPENSE. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEALTH -- THE REASON WHY THE PUBLIC HEALTH DIRECTOR IS PRESENTING IS NO CHANCE. IT'S A PUBLIC HEALTH ISSUE. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE OUR RESTAURANTS ARE SAFE. THAT'S WHY THEY DO THE INSPECTIONS. WE DON'T WANT FOOD-BORN ILLNESS AND PEOPLE GETTING SICK. THERE'S A COST TO DOING THE INSPECTIONS AND THE REVENUES TO PAY FOR THAT COMES FROM THE FEE. IF WE WANT TO HAVE FEES THAT ARE LESS THAN WHAT IT TAKES TO DO THE SERVICE, IT HAS TO COME FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE. THAT COULD COME FROM OTHER SERVICES: PARKS, LIBRARIES, THAT KIND OF THING. WE'LL BRING THAT WHOLE PLAN TO YOU IN FEBRUARY. >> Mayor Guajardo: RIGHT. I THINK THE REASON YOU DON'T HAVE THE WHOLE PLAN -- >> Zanoni: THIS IS NOT THE POINT FOR IT. THIS IS JUST TO PUT IT ON THE RADAR THAT THE STATE PASSED LEGISLATION. DR. KURIAN CAME IN AND SAID WE'RE A LITTLE BEHIND IMPLEMENTING THIS. SHE'S FAST TRACKED IT. A LOT OF CITIES HAVE ALREADY IMPLEMENTED THIS. WE'RE A LITTLE BEHIND. WE'RE CHARGING THE CURRENT FEE TODAY OR NO MORE THAN THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT TODAY. WE'LL SHOW YOU THE ENTIRE BUSINESS OF IT AND WE'LL DO SOME ONE-ON-ONE BRIEFINGS. WE APPRECIATE WHAT THE COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE SAYING UP HERE. >> Mayor Guajardo: I WAS GOING TO SAY I THINK THE ONE-ON-ONE BRIEFINGS ON SOMETHING LIKE THIS IS CRITICAL. AND I THINK THAT OTHER PIECE OF THE PLAN, WE ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO HAVE THAT IN ORDER TO SEE WHAT -- HOW DO YOU BALANCE THIS. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN HERNANDEZ. >> Hernandez: A LOT OF THIS SHOULD BE BASED ON COST OF SERVICE. WHAT DOES IT COST TO DO INSPECTIONS. THE REVENUE YOU GET FROM FOOD SERVICE PERMITS IS ABOUT $600,000 A YEAR. >> IT'S CLOSE TO 703, TO BE PRECISE. AND SOME CHANGE, ROUND IT UP TO $700,000. >> Hernandez: THAT'S HOW MUCH IT COSTS YOU TO DO THE INSPECTIONS? >> NO. THAT'S THE REVENUE THAT'S BEEN PROJECTED AND COLLECTED IN THE PAST. OUR ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH SERVICES, WE HAVE SEVEN HEALTH INSPECTORS. THE ENTIRE BUDGET FOR THAT IS ABOUT -- CLOSE TO $913,000. CLOSE TO $900,000. THESE SEVEN INSPECTORS DO ABOUT, ANNUALLY, 7,000 INSPECTIONS ANNUALLY. IT'S 7,000 INSPECTIONS PER INSPECTOR, WHICH I CAN TELL YOU, IN OTHER JURISDICTIONS WHERE I'VE WORKED, THIS IS ALWAYS STRETCHING AND OVERWORKING THE STAFF RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE. BUT INSPECTION COSTS ABOUT $150. SO IF YOU DO THE MATH, WE ARE NOT EVEN BREAKING EVEN WITH THE AMOUNT OF BUDGET CITY FUNDS THAT ARE ALLOCATED TOWARDS THIS PROGRAM. >> Hernandez: OKAY. FOR US, BECAUSE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THE FEES ARE CONSUMMATE WITH THE COST OF SERVICE. SO WHEN YOU COME BACK TO US ON THAT, HAVE THAT PRESENTATION INCLUDED AS TO HOW MUCH IT COSTS US FOR THE INSPECTORS. ALL THE ASSOCIATE COSTS FOR THE INSPECTIONS AND REFLECT THAT IN THE FEES. WHAT WE DON'T WANT TO DO IS BE PUNITIVE IN THE SENSE OF GETTING AN ARBITRARY NUMBER JUST BECAUSE THE STATE IS DOING SOMETHING. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S TAILORED TO US AND WE'RE CHARGING APPROPRIATELY FOR WHAT IT COST US. YOU KNOW, THAT'S SIMPLE TO DO. YOU TAKE YOUR COST AND YOU EXTRAPOLATE THAT INTO YOUR FEES. IS THAT SIMPLE ENOUGH, PETER? >> Zanoni: YES, COUNCILMAN. I THINK THAT'S WHAT THEY BEGAN TO DO WHEN THEY DEVELOPED THESE RECOMMENDATIONS TODAY. >> Hernandez: JUST SHOW US THE MATH. >> Zanoni: THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO. YES SIR. >> Mayor Guajardo: COUNCILMAN SCOTT. >> Scott: I DON'T THINK THE TAXPAYERS SHOULD SUBSIDIZE THESE COSTS. I DON'T THINK THE GENERAL FUND OR THE SALES TAX FUND OR ANY OF THAT SHOULD HAVE TO PAY FOR THIS. I THINK IT'S A COST OF SERVICE AND WHATEVER IT IS WHATEVER IT IS. SO I JUST WANTED TO GET THAT POINT OUT. >> Mayor Guajardo: COUNCILMAN ROY. >> Roy: THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. THE ONLY THING I WANT TO ADD TO WHAT COUNCI COUNCILMEMBER HERNANDEZ SAID IS -- I CAN'T IMAGINE THAT THE STATE HAS PUT THIS IN PLACE ALL ACROSS THE STATE BUT I KNOW IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE, IF YOU TAKE A SMALLER CITY OR YOU COMPARE -- SO I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SEE A COMPARISON. WE USUALLY COMPARE THE TOP SEVEN OR EIGHT CITIES, GET AN IDEA OF WHAT THEY'RE DOING AND WHAT THEIR FEES ARE. ALSO, IN ADDITION TO LOOKING AT OUR EXPENSES. IF WE COULD GO BACK AT LEAST THREE YEARS, I'D LIKE TO LOOK AT THAT IN COMPARISON SO THAT WE GET A REAL GOOD FEEL OF THE TREND. >> Zanoni: OKAY, COUNCILMAN. WE CAN DO THAT. >> I CAN TELL YOU I'M COMING FROM SAN ANTONIO AND JUST HAVE TO SAY THIS. WE IMPLEMENTED EXACTLY WHAT WAS PRESENTED HERE TODAY. AND THEN THE OTHER POINT I WANTED TO MAKE -- THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP. IF YOU DON'T MATCH THESE FEES, I CAN'T EMPHASIZE ENOUGH THEN THE REVENUE HAS TO COME FROM SOME OTHER SOURCE TO COMPENSATE FOR THE EXPENSE OF RUNNING THIS PROGRAM. AND WE DID THE MATH. EVEN WITH THE PROPOSED FEE, ALL WE ARE SEEING IS AN INCREASE OF ABOUT $84,000 FROM OUR PREVIOUS REVENUES. THAT IS STILL COMING WAY BELOW OUR EXPENSE OF THE RUNNING THE PROGRAM. >> Mayor Guajardo: WE HAVE COUNCILWOMAN PAXSON. SHE'S ONLINE AND WOULD LIKE TO ASK A QUESTION. >> Paxson: THANK YOU. I HOPE EVERYONE CAN HEAR ME. LOOKING AT THE PRESENTATION, I HAD KIND OF TWO KEY CONCERNS. MY FIRST WAS I'M NOT SURE THAT THIS WAS DELIVERED AS IT WAS INTENDED. MY UNDERSTANDING OF THIS BILL IS BECAUSE THERE'S SO MANY CITIES ACROSS THE STATE OF TEXAS THAT THE PERMITTING, THE FEES, EVERYTHING HAS BECOME SO BURDENSOME AND COMPLICATED. IT'S VERY DIFFICULT FOR SMALL BUSINESSES TO NAVIGATE AND OPERATE AND, IN MANY INSTANCES, OVERTAXING. MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE STATE TOOK THAT INTO CONSIDERATION AND THAT'S PROBABLY WHY THE TEXAS STATE RESTAURANT ASSOCIATION IS BEHIND IT. IT'S TRYING TO PROVIDE A STREAMLINED SYSTEM, AN EQUITY OF COST. I DON'T THINK IT'S FAIR FOR US TO POSITION THAT THE STATE DID THIS WITH THE INTENT BEHIND MANDATING THAT ALL CITIES FOLLOW THIS FEE SCHEDULE. ARE YOU IN A POSITION THAT YOU CAN SAY THAT THEY ARE MANDATING THAT FEE? >> SO SOME OF THE PERMIT FEES, IT'S A LAW THAT SAYS -- >> Paxson: THE STATE IS REQUIRING THAT WE CHARGE THESE FEES. AND WE HAD A COUNCIL MEMBER ASK FOR CLARIFICATION AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S A FAIR REPRESENTATION. LIKE OUR LEGAL SAID, THESE ARE MAXIMUMS. AND I AM NOT GOING TO BE SOMEONE IN FAVOR OF IMPLEMENTING SO MANY FEES THAT IT BURDENS OUR LOCAL BUSINESSES. WE'VE BEEN OFFERING THESE SERVICES -- WHAT I DIDN'T SEE IN THE PRESENTATION IS IF THERE'S A GAP PRESENTED BETWEEN SERVICE AND WHAT THIS NEW BILL IS SAYING THAT WE NEED TO PROVIDE IN SERVICES. WE DO. WE GO OUT. WE INSPECT. WE DO ALL THOSE THINGS. WHAT YOU'RE ASKING US TO DO IS INCREASE THE FEES. AND I DON'T THINK THAT ALL CITIES ARE CREATED EQUAL. I DON'T THINK THAT THIS WAS INTENDED FOR US TO JUMP SO HIGH IN OUR FEES TO CATCH UP WITH WHAT THE STATE AVERAGE IS. THE STATE IS PUTTING THOSE NUMBERS IN THERE FOR THE CITIES THAT ARE OVERCHARGING. PETER, WHEN WE BRING THIS ITEM BACK, THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION. >> Zanoni: YES, COUNCILWOMAN. WE HEAR YOU. >> Paxson: THANK YOU. >> Mayor Guajardo: COUNCILMAN CANTU. >> Cantu: HOW MANY INSPECTORS DO WE HAVE IN CORPUS CHRISTI? HEALTH INSPECTORS. >> INSPECTORS, OUR PROGRAM IS TEN, INCLUDING MANAGERS, TWO ADMIN. WE HAVE SEVEN INSPECTORS WHO ARE ACTUALLY OUT IN THE FIELD DOING THE JOB. >> Zanoni: SEVEN, YOU SAID? >> SEVEN. >> Zanoni: FOR THE ENTIRE CITY? >> YES. >> Cantu: ON THE STREETS? >> YES. AND DOING 7,000 INSPECTIONS ANNUALLY. SO RESTAURANT INSPECTIONS IS NOT THE ONLY THING THEY DO. THEY DO SEPTIC, POOL, FOSTER HOME INSPECTIONS, JAIL INSPECTIONS. THERE ARE A NUMBER OF OTHER -- PLAT REVIEWS. THERE ARE A NUMBER OF OTHERS, IN ADDITION TO ADDRESSING COMPLAINTS WE GET ON A DAILY BASIS. >> Cantu: IS THERE A REASON WHY WHEN THEY DO AN INSPECTION AT A RESTAURANT, THERE'S TWO PEOPLE WITH THEM, IT'S NOT JUST ONE PERSON? BECAUSE I HAVE BEEN TO TWO RESTAURANTS LAST WEEK AND I SAW TWO PEOPLE EACH TIME DOING THE INSPECTION. IS THERE A REASON WHY WE HAVE TWO PEOPLE DOING ONE INSPECTION? >> WHEN SOMEBODY IS TRAINING. WE HAVE TURNOVERS. SO THE NEW PERSON IS ALWAYS FOLLOWING AN EXPERIENCED PERSON UNTIL WE DEEM THEM COMPETENT. >> Cantu: HOW LONG DOES THAT TAKE FOR THEM TO UNDERSTAND THE WHOLE PROCESS? >> IT VARIES FROM PERSON TO PERSON, BUT TYPICALLY BETWEEN FOUR TO SIX WEEKS YOU SHOULD BE GOOD. AND KNOW THIS TOO. NOT EVERY PERSON WHO TAKES THIS JOB IS LICENSED AS A SANITARIAN. THEY'RE REQUIRED TO TAKE THE LICENSING EXAM TOO WITHIN ONE YEAR OF EMPLOYMENT. SO IT VARIES. SOMEBODY LICENSED WALKING INTO THE JOB, IT MAY TAKE ONLY TWO OR THREE WEEKS. BUT SOMEBODY WHO IS NOT LICENSED MAY TAKE FOUR TO SIX WEEK AND THEN HAVE TO BE LICENSED TO BE COMPLETELY INDEPENDENT AS WELL. >> Cantu: IS THERE ANY LOCAL RESTAURANT ASSOCIATIONS? >> YES. >> Cantu: HAVE Y'ALL TALKED TO THEM? >> YES. WE SPOKE TO THE REP FROM THE RESTAURANT ASSOCIATION LAST WEEK. HIS NAME WAS SAM CAVANOTTI. HE SITS ON THE BOARD AND HE'S GOING TO SHARE THE INFORMATION WITH THE BOARD MEMBERS AS WELL. HE WAS VERY FAMILIAR WITH THIS AND HE, FROM THE MEETING HE HAD, I DIDN'T WALK AWAY THINKING THERE WAS ANY ISSUES. >> Zanoni: WE'LL WORK WITH HIM THROUGH THESE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS. >> Cantu: IT JUST CONCERNS ME BECAUSE I THINK THE CALLER TIMES DID A STORY ON HOW MANY RESTAURANTS CLOSED THIS YEAR. I KNOW A HANDFUL OF SMALL BUSINESSES THAT ARE RESTAURANTS ARE STRUGGLING AND TRYING TO KEEP THEIR DOORS OPEN. TO CHARGE THEM THIS MUCH MONEY, I MEAN, IT MIGHT NOT SEEM A LOT TO SOME OF US HERE ON THIS DAIS, BUT TO THEM IT'S A LOT OF MONEY. AND SO PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO MAKE A LIVING FOR THEIR FAMILIES AND THEIR DREAMS AND I JUST FEEL LIKE WE'VE GOT TO SUPPORT OUR SMALL BUSINESSES HERE IN CORPUS CHRISTI. >> I UNDERSTAND AND I SUPPORT THAT AS WELL. BUT IT HAS TO BE A BALANCED APPROACH TOO. >> Cantu: I UNDERSTAND THAT. AND WE'VE GOT TO FIND THE MONEY SOMEWHERE ELSE, LET'S DO IT. WE REALLY DON'T HELP OUR SMALL BUSINESSES IN CORPUS. WE HELP EVERYBODY ELSE, THE BIG CORPORATIONS AND REFINERIES AND STUFF BUT WE DON'T HELP OUR SMALL BUSINESSES. >> Cantu: I WANT TO SEE CORPUS CHRISTI DOING MORE FOR OUR SMALL BUSINESSES THAN DOING STUFF FOR OTHERS THAT HAVE -- THAT ALREADY HAVE A LOT OF MONEY. THANK YOU. COUNCILMA N BARRERA? >> Barrera: THANK YOU, MAYOR. PETER, MAYBE -- MAYBE -- YOU KNOW, WHEN WE PULL THIS AROUND, WE PULL IN RYAN TO SEE WHAT THE TOTAL GOAL WAS, WHETHER IT WAS -- ESPECIALLY SINCE THE TRADE ASSOCIATIONS ARE INVOLVED. YOU KNOW, IN MY FIRST LIFE, THAT'S WHAT I DID, AND -- YOU KNOW, AND SO WE WERE PRETTY ACTIVE. AND, YOU KNOW, WE RECOGNIZED THE FACT, WHAT IS IT -- YOU KNOW, WHAT WE DID IS PARTICULARLY WHEN THINGS THAT I WAS IN, IS WE WANTED TO ENSURE THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE A VIABLE OPERATION. AND, YOU KNOW, THE ONES THAT WE HAD THAT COMPLAINED THE MOST WERE TYPICALLY RESTAURANTS THAT GOT LOWER SCORES, YOU KNOW. SO WE JUST KIND OF PUT THAT INTO OUR BUSINESS MODEL. GRANTED, I WORKED FOR A BIG CHAIN, BUT I WAS ONE OF THE BOOTS ON THE GROUND. SO I GUESS THAT'S THE THING, IF THERE'S A PERSPECTIVE THAT THE RESTAURANT ASSOCIATION IS HAVING AND THEY ENDORSE THIS -- BECAUSE IT'S JUST EASY TO SEE WHAT PEOPLE CAN'T AFFORD ANY MORE FEES. AND, YOU KNOW, I AGREE WITH THE COMMENT THAT WAS MADE, IF WE REDUCED THE FEE AND WE'RE NOT COVERING OUR COST, THEN THE TAXPAYER IS FUNDING THAT. SO IF I CAN'T AFFORD TO GO EAT OUT -- I CAN'T AFFORD TO GO EAT OUT, BUT YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE MONEY FROM MY TAXES, WHAT IS IT -- SO THAT WAY ANOTHER BUSINESS CAN -- WHAT IS IT -- WE'RE NOT CHARGING A FEE, SO THAT WAY ANOTHER BUSINESS -- IT'S A PUSH/PULL THING. BUT I THINK WE JUST NEED TO GET SOME MORE FEEDBACK FROM THE RESTAURANT ASSOCIATIONS. >> Zanoni: RIGHT. WE'LL GET YOU SOME. WE KNOW THAT SENATOR ADAM HINOJOSA COAUTHORED THE BILL. WE'LL WORK WITH HIM AND HIS OFFICE AND RYAN. THERE IS NO ACTION ON THIS, IT'S THE BEGINNING OF A SEVERAL MONTH CONVERSATION WITH THE COUNCIL AND THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY AND THE STATE. >> Mayor Guajardo: YEAH, THANK YOU PETER. THANK YOU, DR. CURE RAN. >> Zanoni: OKAY. COUNCIL, OUR NEXT ITEM IS TIMELY BECAUSE THERE WAS A COG MEETING LAST WEEK AND WE DID COMMUNICATE WITH THE CITY COUNCIL. BUT WE WANTED TO HAVE PETER COLLINS COME UP. THE REASON HE IS, HE'S ON THE COG AS ONE OF MY APPOINTEES. HE'S ALSO THE TRARYB SURER OF THE EXECUTIVE BOARD OF THE COG AND HE'S ON THE EXECUTIVE BOARD OF THE COG. PETER'S GOING TO BRIEF YOU ON SOME ACTIONS TAKEN LAST WEEK. I WANT YOU TO RECOGNIZE EMILY MARTINEZ WHO'S HERE, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE, EMILY. AND PETER, WE'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU FOR A QUICK BRIEFING. >> Collins: THANK YOU, PETER. PETER COLLINS, CIO ON THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE FOR THE COG. GOSH, I'M LOSING MY VOICE. BUT ANYWAY, YOU MENTIONED EMILY MARTINEZ. ONE THING ABOUT THIS EXECUTIVE BOARD FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, WE'VE BEEN EXTREMELY PROACTIVE. WE HAD A DECISION TO MAKE, A HIRING AND EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR THAT CAN MOVE THE COG FORWARD. COG'S BEEN FROZEN IN TIME FOR QUITE A WHILE, AND EMILY MARTINEZ, WHO WAS ON THE HIRING COMMITTEE, WAS DEFINITELY THE LEAD CANDIDATE FOR THAT SELECTION. SINCE THEN, SHE'S PROVEN THAT WE WERE CORRECT IN SELECTING HER. SO WE DO APPRECIATE THE WORK SHE'S DONE AND THE WORK SHE'S GOING TO DO. BUT IT'S REALLY INTERESTING, WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT THE BYLAWS PRETTY QUICK, BUT THE LAST TIME THE BYLAWS ACTUALLY HAD ANY ACTION WAS 2011. SO WE STARTED PAC ACTUALLY IN 2024, AND OBVIOUSLY NOW WE'RE IN '25, AND WE'RE TAKING A COUPLE OF ITEMS FORWARD, WHICH WE HAD A BOARD MEETING LAST WEEK, AND THESE ITEMS WERE VOTED IN. BUT IT'S INTERESTING, NO ACTION FROM 2011. SO WE'RE MOVING FORWARD. SO I'M JUST GOING TO REVIEW THEM REAL QUICK. AND THIS IS ACTUALLY THE FIRST TIME I GET TO DO A PRESENTATION SINCE WE REDID THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS, AND WHAT'S NICE IS THAT WE GOT THE MONITORS UP SO I CAN LOOK AT COUNCIL, SPEAK TO YOU ALL, AND THEN READ OFF OF THERE INSTEAD OF LOOKING DOWN. SO THESE ARE THE ONES THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN VOTED IN. THE COUNCIL SHALL ELECT OFFICERS AT THE DECEMBER MEETING. THE NEXT ONE, ADVISORY MEMBER REPRESENTATIVES WILL BE ELECTED TO THE EXECUTIVE BOARD AT THE FIRST MEETING OF THE EV -- EVERY YEAR. THE COUNCIL SHALL MEET A MINIMUM OF SIX TIMES A YEAR. WELL, WHEN WE REFER TO THE COUNCIL, IT'S THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS MEETING, RIGHT? THE ONES THAT WE HAVE. AND THEY WERE EVERY YEAR. AND WE'RE TRYING TO GAIN EFFICIENCY AT THE COG THAT, YOU KNOW, DO WE REALLY NEED TO MEET 12 TIMES A YEAR? NO, WE CAN MEET SIX TIMES A YEAR, AND IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT WARRANTS ANOTHER MEETING, ANOTHER MEETING CAN BE CALLED. AGENDA PACKETS WILL BE DELIVERED ELECTRONICALLY. I KNOW A NUMBER OF YOU ARE ON THE BOARD AND YOU HAVE ALL THAT PAPER TO GO THROUGH WHEN YOU WALK IN. IT'S LIKE A BIG OLD BINDER FULL OF STUFF. THIS WILL SAVE ON Z ON SOME COSTS WITH ALL THE PRINTING THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING. THE EXECUTIVE BOARD SHALL MEET QUARTERLY. THIS IS GOOD. BEFORE, IT WAS KIND OF ROUGHLY DEFINED, BUT WE DO NEED TO MEET QUARTERLY. AND IF WE NEED TO MEET MORE, WE'RE NOT SCARED TO MEET MORE THAN QUARTERLY. AND A QUORUM, THIS IS A BIG DEAL. A QUORUM WILL BE DETERMINED BY A SIMPLE MAJORITY OF THE BOARD. OKAY. THERE'S SO MANY TIMES THERE HAVE BEEN A REAL ISSUE TRYING TO GET A QUORUM, WHICH LEADS ME TO THE NEXT SCREEN GAISH GOD, IT WORKED -- NO, IT DIDN'T. THERE. THE NEXT SCREEN IS ACTUALLY WITH THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS -- THE REPRESENTATION. IT BOILS DOWN TO HOW MANY VOTES WE ALL HAVE IN THE COG. SO RIGHT NOW AS IT STANDS WE HAVE 82 BOARD MEMBERS. OKAY. WE WANT TO DECREASE IT TO 57. IT JUST MAKES SENSE. IT'S -- IT'S -- WHOEVER'S BEEN TO THE MEETINGS, THE BIG DEAL IS, DO WE HAVE A QUORUM? NO, WE DON'T HAVE A QUORUM. OR CALLING PEOPLE TO COME. BUT 82, IS THAT REALLY EFFICIENT? IT'S NOT. AND WE ALL REALIZE THAT ON THE EXECUTIVE BOARD. THE THING IS THAT'S EVEN ANOTHER INTERESTING FACT, THE LAST TIME THAT THIS HAS EVEN BEEN CONSIDERED TO CHANGE WAS BACK IN 1966. SO, AGAIN, MOVING FORWARD INTO THE WORLD THAT EXISTS TODAY WHERE THINGS HAVE CHANGED DRAMATICALLY, IT'S ROUGHLY 69 YEARS. SO I THINK IT'S TIME FOR A CHANGE. SO HOW DOES IT WORK? SO WE'RE GOING TO DECREASE IT DOWN TO 57. EACH COUNTY IS ALLOTTED TWO OFFICIAL REPRESENTATIVES, OKAY? SO ALL YOUR COUNTIES, THEY GET TWO. TWO VOTES. EACH INCORPORATED CITY RECEIVE A MINIMUM OF ONE OFFICIAL REPRESENTATIVE. THAT'S ALL THE CITIES THAT ARE INCORPORATED. AND IF YOU LOOK BELOW, YOU'LL SEE THE LIST OF THE CITIES. NOW, TO TRY TO COMPENSATE FOR POPULATION, WHAT YOU WILL SEE IS ANY CITY THAT'S OVER 20,000, THEY RECEIVE ONE MORE. IF YOU HAVE A CITY THAT'S OVER 50,000 POPULATION, THEY RECEIVE A TOTAL OF TWO MORE. SO THAT WOULD BE THREE. AND THEN, AGAIN, OVER 100,000, WHICH CORPUS CHRISTI IS THE ONLY ONE, WE HAVE FOUR VOTES. OKAY? NOW, KINGSVILLE HAS TWO AND PORTLAND HAS TWO, BEING CITIES BASED ON THAT POPULATION. NOW, THE THING IS, THIS IS WORK IN PROGRESS. IT WASN'T APPROVED. WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT IT AGAIN AFTER THE FIRST OF THE YEAR, AND THEN WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH IT. SO THAT'S WHERE WE ARE. I THINK ALL THESE MOVES -- AND WHAT WE ALREADY VOTED ON IS A POSITIVE DIRECTION, BUT I ALSO -- WHAT I LIKE IS THAT THE CONVERSATION HAS STARTED, WHAT CAN WE DO WITH THE REPRESENTATION TO MAKE IT MORE EFFECTIVE. ANY QUESTIONS? >> Mayor Guajardo: I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. PETER? >> Zanoni: JUST AS A REMINDER, WE DO HAVE FOUR COUNCILMEMBERS THAT SIT ON THE COG TODAY AS OP POINTED BY THE COUNCIL. SO THAT INCLUDES COUNCILMAN HERNANDEZ, BARRERA, CAMPOS AND PAXSON, AND THEN THERE'S FIVE STAFF MEMBERS THAT I APPOINT AND THE COUNCIL CONFIRMS SO WE HAVE A TOTAL OF NINE THAT SIT ON THE BOARD TODAY FROM OUR CITY. >> Mayor Guajardo: THANK YOU. PETER, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. >> Zanoni: THANK YOU, PETER. OKAY. WE'RE GOING TO TALK A LITTLE BASEBALL HERE, AND BRADY'S HERE, MR. BALLARD, THE GENERAL MANAGER FOR OUR WHATABURGER FIELD AND THE HOOKS. YOU SAW LAST WEEK THE ANNOUNCEMENT THAT THE ASTROS SOLD THE HOOKS AND YESTERDAY WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH THE NEW OWNERS AND BRADY, I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A POSITIVE MOVE FOR THIS CITY AND BASEBALL. BRADY'S GOING TO SHARE THE INFORMATION THIS MORNING WITH THE COUNCIL. BRADY. >> Ballard: THERE WAS AN INTERNAL MEMO DISTRIBUTED ALONG WITH THE PRESS RELEASE. SO REALLY TO ADDRESS ANY LINGERING QUESTIONS. I THINK IT WAS STATED THERE, FAN-FACING, NOTHING CHANGES. WE REMAIN ASTRO'S AFFILIATES, AND IT'S REALLY ON THE BUSINESS SIDE THAT ITEMS CHANGE. THIS OCCURRED BACK IN 20 BETWEEN WHEN RYAN SANDERS SOLD TO THE HOUSTON ASTROS AT THAT TIME. SO REALLY JUST ANY LINGERING QUESTIONS WE WANTED TO BE SURE WE ADDRESSED. AS WE WERE MEETING YESTERDAY, THE HR TEAM WAS IN TOWN TO MEET OUR STAFF, SO THIS IS ALL FRESH IN OUR WORLD ALSO. >> Mayor Guajardo: GREAT. WELL, IF YOU SAY IT'S GOOD, THEN -- THANK YOU FOR THE MEMO, BUT IT WAS VERY SELF-EXPLANATORY. WE APPRECIATE THE INC. VESTMENT INTO OUR -- INVESTMENT INTO OUR HOOKS, OR CONTINUED INVESTMENT. >> DIAMOND BASEBALL HOLDING, THEY'RE WELL INVESTED AND VERY STRICTLY INTO MINOR LEAGUE BASEBALL AND THEY'VE BEEN IN SOME OF THE MOST HISTORIC -- [LAPSE IN AUDIO] >> Mayor Guajardo: MAYBE YOU CAN SEND US A LITTLE UPDATE IN THE FORM OF A MEMO IN, YOU KNOW, THREE, FOUR MONTHS FROM NOW, JUST TO SEE HOW EVERYTHING'S GOING. >> Zanoni: YEAH, TO SEE HOW THINGS ARE GOING? IS THAT WHAT YOU SAID? OKAY. WE CAN DO THAT. JUST ONE OTHER QUICK UPDATES AND THEN TWO FINAL ONES. NICK IS GOING TO PROVIDE THE COUNCIL WITH A WATER UPDATE ON SOUTH TEXAS WATER AUTHORITY. WE KNOW THE BOARD MET LAST WEEK AND NICK AND I HAVE BEEN ENGAGED WITH THEIR GENERAL MANAGER, JOHN MARES, SO WE WANTED NICK TO PROVIDE THE COUNCIL A QUICK BRIEFING, JUST A COUPLE OF SLIDES ON WHERE WE ARE WITH THIS WATER PROJECT. >> Winkelmann: THANK YOU, SIR. NICK WINKELMANN, INTERIM CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER, CORPUS CHRISTI WATER. AS THE CITY MANAGER SAID, WE JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU A BRIEF UPDATE ON THE STATUS OF THE SOUTH TEXAS WATER AUTHORITY NEW WATER SUPPLY PROJECT. SO ON DECEMBER 9TH, A CONTRACT AMENDMENT WITH SEVEN SEAS WAS PRESENTED TO THE STWA BOARD. AT THAT TIME, THE STWA BOARD OF DIRECTORS DECIDED TO TABLE THAT AGREEMENT AND WAIT UNTIL A WORKSHOP COULD BE SCHEDULED TO GO INTO MORE DETAIL. THAT WORKSHOP IS SCHEDULED FOR JANUARY 13TH. AFTER THAT WORKSHOP, WE'RE TOLD THAT THERE WILL BE AN STWA BOARD OF DIRECTORS MEETING, AT WHICH TIME THEY MAY RECONSIDER THAT CONTRACT AMENDMENT WITH SEVEN SEAS. STWA HAS STATED THAT THEY WOULD BE AVAILABLE TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE AT OUR COUNCIL MEETING ON JANUARY 27TH. WE'VE ALSO BEEN INFORMED THAT THE INITIAL PROJECT WILL BE 3 MILLION-GALLONS A DAY. AND UNDERSTANDING WHAT SOUTH TEXAS WATER'S DEMAND IS, THAT WOULD LEAVE A POSSIBILITY OF 1.4 MILLION-GALLONS A DAY AVAILABLE TO CORPUS CHRISTI WATER. WE HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT THE PROJECT LOCATION WILL CHANGE, SO THE ADDITION OF A NEW CONVEYANCE LINE FROM THE NEW LOCATION TO OUR INFRASTRUCTURE WOULD HAVE TO BE CONDUCTED. AND TO THAT POINT, CCW IS WORKING TO COORDINATE A MEETING LATER THIS WEEK WITH STWA AND THEIR DESIGN ENGINEERS, WHICH IS ICE ENGINEERING. THAT CONCLUDES THE UPDATE OF THE INFORMATION WE HAVE FROM THE SOUTH TEXAS WATER AUTHORITY. >> Mayor Guajardo: THANK YOU, NICK. THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. COUNCILMAN SCOTT? >> Scott: THANK YOU, MAYOR. SO WE HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH THE SOUTH TEXAS WATER AUTHORITY TO PROVIDE 3 MGD. >> Zanoni: RIGHT, WE HAVE A CONTRACT THAT COUNCIL APPROVES LAST WEEK. FOR THREE YEARS IT WAS EXTENDED. >> Scott: AND YOU'RE SAYING THAT SOUTH TEXAS WATER AUTHORITY HAS AN AGREEMENT WITH SEVEN SEAS FOR 3 MGD. >> Winkelmann: THE PROPOSED CONTRACT AMENDMENT WOULD BE FOR 3 MGD. I THINK THEIR INITIAL DISCUSSIONS AT THE ORIGINAL SITE WAS ALSO FOR 3 MGD. >> Scott: BUT THEN YOU ALSO SAID THERE MAY BE A DIFFERENCE THAT MIGHT BE AVAILABLE TO THE CITY, WHAT DID YOU SAY? >> Winkelmann: THAT'S CORRECT. I MEAN, THEY CURRENTLY DON'T UTILIZE 3 -- THEIR DEMAND ISN'T 3 MGD EVERY DAY, SO THERE'S SOME TALK OF SOME ADDITIONAL SPARE CAPACITY, WE'LL CALL IT. >> Scott: SPARE CAPACITY. >> Winkelmann: YEAH. >> Scott: BUT WE HAVE AN AGREEMENT TO PROVIDE 3 MGD. IS IT A TAKE OR PAY CONTRACT. >> Zanoni: IT IS NOT A TAKE OR PAY CONTRACT. >> Winkelmann: IT IS NOT A TAKE OR PAY. OUR CONTRACT WAS EXTENDED WITH THEM FOR THREE YEARS UNDER THE SAME CONTRACTUAL TERMS. >> Scott: RIGHT NOW WE'RE GOING TO SELL THEM 3 MGD BUT THEY'RE WORKING ON A PROJECT TO CREATE 3 MGD OF WHICH THEY MIGHT NOT USE ALL OF IT. I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW THIS ALL WORKS, IF WE'RE SELLING THEM 3 MGD, I GUESS THEY NEED MORE THAN 3? >> Zanoni: THE PROJECT, IF EXECUTED, WOULD TAKE TIME. SO THEY EXTENDED THE CONTRACT WITH US TO GIVE THEM THREE YEARS TO HAVE WATER SECURITY. >> Scott: OKAY. >> Zanoni: ASSUME THAT IN THE THREE YEARS THE PROJECT'S BUILT, THEN THEY WOULD NO LONGER RENEW OUR CONTRACT FOR WATER AROUND BUY IT FROM -- AND BUY IT FROM SEVEN SEAS. WE'RE NOT SHOWING YOU THE PRICE THERE UKS , BUT IT IS A MORE EXPENSIVE WATER ACCORDING TO JOHN MARES, THE GENERAL MANAGER. THE DIRCHTION, THOUGH -- BECAUSE ONE REASON WE'RE PRESENTING IT TODAY IS WE HAD TALKED ABOUT A 10 MGD PROJECT FOR THE CITY. >> Scott: RIGHT. >> Zanoni: BUT NOW THEY'RE SAYING IS REALLY WHAT MIGHT BE AVAILABLE IS 1.4 MILLION THAT WE COULD BUY. RIGHT, NICK, THAT'S WHAT THEY TOLD US LAST WEEK, SO... >> Winkelmann: THAT'S RIGHT. WE WERE INFORMED THAT THEY WERE TARGETING THAT 3 MGD PLANT DESIGN. THEY WOULD BE OPEN TO FURTHER DISCUSSIONS BUT AGAIN SOUTH TEXAS WATER NEEDS TO COME TO AN AGREEMENT WITH SEVEN SEAS ON THAT CONTRACT AMENDMENT BEFORE THEY CAN HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSIONS WITH US. >> Scott: AND THE CONTRACT EAMENTD, AMONG OTHER THINGS, AT LEAST INCLUDES A DIFFERENT LOCATION FOR THE WELLFIELD? >> Winkelmann: YEAH, MY UNDERSTANDING IT'S A DIFFERENT LOCATION AND IT'S A DIFFERENT DISPOSAL METHOD OF THE EFFLUENT FROM THE BRACKISH RO. >> Scott: THAT MAKES SENSE. WE DON'T KNOW THE LOCATION, RIGHT? >> Winkelmann: WE HAVEN'T BEEN INFORMED OF THE LOCATION. >> Zanoni: WE KNOW GENERALLY WHERE IT IS, COUNCILMAN. YEAH. >> Scott: ARE WE SHARING THAT IN. >> Zanoni: I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S SHAREABLE. >> Scott: DON'T TELL ME IF I'M NOT SUPPOSED TO KNOW. >> Zanoni: THEY DID TELL US AND I CONFIRMED WITH THE ENTITY. >> Scott: I QUESTIONS MY POINT IS IF THEY END UP GETTING 3 MGD AND THEY DON'T NEED OUR 3 MGD, THREE YEARS FROM NOW WE HAVE 3 MGD INTO THE KITTY. >> Mayor Guajardo: RIGHT. >> Zanoni: RIGHT. >> Scott: MY SENSE IS OUR 3 MGD IS 50% OF THEIR NEW 3 MANAGEMENT, BUT THAT'S THEIR ISSUE, NOT OURS, RIGHT? >> Zanoni: SOUNDS GOOD. IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE IN THAT MEETING. >> Scott: FULL DISCLOSURE, I CALLED NICK YESTERDAY TO GET THIS -- I CHEATED. I SAID I'M FROM KINGSVILLE, YOU'VE GOT TO TELL ME THIS TWICE BEFORE IT S SINKS IN. THANK YOU, MAYOR. I GOT WHAT I NEEDED OUT OF THIS. >> Mayor Guajardo: THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN. COUNCILMAN HERNANDEZ? >> Hernandez: I GUESS THE CHALLENGE HERE FOR THEM IS TRYING TO FIND CONTIGUOUS AMOUNT OF PROPERTY THAT THEY CAN PUT THEIR FACILITY IN AND ACTUALLY PUT WATER IN THE TRANSMISSION LINE THAT THEY HAVE. IF THEY CAN'T GET ENOUGH PROPERTY, YOU HAVE -- YOU RUN INTO THE PROBLEM THAT THEY HAVE -- THAT I WE'RE LOOKING AT WITH THE NUECES COUNTY CONSERVATION DISTRICT, RIGHT? BECAUSE YOU CAN ONLY GET SO MUCH WATER FROM A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF ACREAGE THAT YOU HAVE. SO -- AND THAT'S IMPORTANT, THAT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO TO MAKE SURE YOU MANAGE THE WATER FOR EVERYBODY WITHIN THAT AREA. BUT YOU STILL -- WE NEED TO BE CAREFUL OF THAT AS WELL, WITH ANY WELLS THAT WE'RE DRILLING SO WE DON'T AFFECT OUR NEIGHBORS. SO I THINK THAT'S THE CHALLENGE THAT THEY HAVE. AND OBVIOUSLY, THEY WOULD LOVE TO SELL US WATER TO KIND OF SUPPLEMENT THE HIGHER COST PROJECT. IF IT WORKS OUT, WE'LL GET 3 MILLION-GALLONS A DAY BACK, PLUS WHATEVER ADDITIONAL CAPACITY THERE IS. YOU KNOW, I THINK WHATEVER SMALL AMOUNTS OF WATER WE CAN GET FROM MULTIPLE LOCATIONS IS ADA GOOD THING. LET'S NOT POO POO IT BECAUSE IT'S NOT 1 MILLION-GALLONS FROM HERE, WE NEED EVERY DROP OF WATER. THANKS. COUNCILMA N BARRERA. >> Barrera: JUST REAL QUICK. I SAID ON THE RADIO THIS MORNING -- HOLD ON -- THAT -- YOU KNOW, I -- WE WELCOME ALL THE OTHER RESOURCES BECAUSE WHAT IT IS, THAT'S GOING TO ALLOW OUR SURFACE WATER TO REPLENISH. IF THERE'S OTHER RESOURCES. AND THEN THE MARKET'S GOING TO BE THE DIFFERENCE. SURFACE WATER IS THE MOST INEXPENSIVE WATER. SO I THINK IF -- IF, LET'S SAY, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU KNOW, BRACKISH WATER DESALINATION, I'M JUST GOING TO THROW OUT A NUMBER, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS, NINE OR $10, OR $8, OR WHATEVER, THEN -- YOU KNOW, IF WE HAVE CHEAPER WATER, THEN WE'RE GOING TO BE IN THE SAME POSITION WHERE THEY'RE ASKING THEMSELVES, OKAY, ARE WE GOING TO PRODUCE OUR OWN WATER OR ARE WE GOING TO DIAL THAT DOWN TO MAKE SURE OUR RESERVOIRS STAY REPLENISHED. I THINK IT'S A GOOD THING. IT'S PERSPECTIVE. THE DEMAND IS WHAT'S GOING TO REQUIRE. >> Zanoni: RIGHT. AND SEVEN SEAS, ALICE IS HERE, MICHAEL ESPARZA IS HERE, BUT THEY'RE CURRENTLY OPERATING A REVERSE OSMOSIS SYSTEM THAT SEVEN SEAS BUILT. THEY'RE A REPUTABLE FIRM. WE'RE JUST TELLING YOU THE DIFFERENCES OF WHAT WE INITIALLY TOLD THE COUNCIL AND WHAT THE UPDATE IS TODAY. >> Barrera: YEAH. YEAH, KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK. APPRECIATE IT. >> Mayor Guajardo: NICK, THANK YOU. >> Zanoni: GREAT. MAYOR AND COUNCIL, JUST TWO OTHER THINGS, BUT WE DID WANT THE COMMUNITY TO HEAR THIS AS WELL L. IN OUR MOTTO OF BEING VERY TRANSPARENT TO THE COMMUNITY, SO WITH THE NEW LOOK AT THE INNER HARBOR LOCATION WITH THE PRICE-CERTAIN PROPOSAL AT NO COST TO THE CITY, ONE THING I RECOMMENDED TO THE CITY COUNCIL WITH THAT NEW DYNAMIC WAS BEGINNING A FAR FIELD STUDY NOW, HAVING THE CITY MANMANAGE IT, AN AND HAVING A COMMITTEE OF REPRESENTATIVES OF A DIVERSE NATURE BE WITH US THROUGH THE ENTIRE PROCESS, AND THE REASON WE'RE HERE TODAY WE WANT THIS COMMITTEE TO BE ASSEMBLED SOON, WE ASK FOR YOUR NAMES BY THE END OF THIS WEEK, BECAUSE WE WANT THE COMMITTEE TO BE ENGAGED AND HELP US SELECT WHO WILL DO THE FAR FIELD MONITORING. AS BRETT WILL SAY, THE COMMITTEE WILL BE WITH US FOR HOWEVER LONG IT TAKE SOS WE CAN DEMONSTRATE TO THEM AND THE COMMUNITY AND THE COUNCIL THE SCIENCE BEHIND THE SITE HERE. WE SENT A MEMO LAST WEEK. BRETT WAS IN CHARGE AND STILL IS OF THE INNER HARBOR, IS GOING TO GO THROUGH THE FAR FIELD ADVISORY COMMITTEE. WE KNOW SOME MEMBERS LIKE JASON HALE HAVE REACHED OUT TO US ALREADY, THEY'RE IN THE AUDYEARNS TODAY, AND WE WELCOME THEIR INTEREST IN THIS. SO BRETT? >> YEAH, SO I'M BRETT VAN HAZEL, I'M THE DIRECTOR OF WATER SUPPLY MANAGEMENT. SO AS PETER MENTIONED, WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING WITH COUNCIL, AS WELL AS INTERNALLY ON DEVELOPING THE FAR FIELD ADVISORY COMMITTEE. SO THE PURPOSE OF THE COMMITTEE IS TO PROVIDE INPUT, FIRST AND FOREMOST, BUT WE ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ENSURE COLLABORATIVE AND TRANSPARENT ANALYSIS AND INTERPRETATION OF THE MODELING PROCESS. SO WE'LL BE -- ONCE THIS COMMITTEE'S PUT TOGETHER, WE'RE GOING TO BE HEAVILY INVOLVED WITH THEM THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS. SO OUR GOAL IS TO FORM A DIVERSE VOLUNTEER GROUP. THE KEY IS VOLUNTEER. YOU KNOW, ONCE WE GET THE COMMITTEE LIST, WE'RE GOING TO BE REACHING OUT TO THE RECOMMENDED MEMBERS FOR THAT COMMITTEE AND GETTING THEIR COMMITMENT TO BE A PART OF THIS TEAM. AND WORK THROUGH THE ENTIRE PROCESS. SO IT WILL BE COMPRISED OF LOCAL COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS, SO AS PETER MENTIONED, WE'RE LOOKING FOR COUNCIL'S INPUT TO GET ONE OR TWO NAMES RECOMMENDATION AND FOR CONSIDERATION TO BE INCLUDED ON THIS COMMITTEE. THE GROUP ITSELF IS GOING TO BE PRETTY DIVERSE. WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE -- WE TOUCH A NUMBER OF AREAS, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE TOUCH THE VARIOUS CUSTOMER CLASSES, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE TOUCH DIFFERENT AREAS OF THE COMMUNITY, WE WANT INDUSTRIAL -- INDUSTRIAL. INSTITUTIONAL REPRESENTATION, SO LIKE THE HEART RESEARCH INSTITUTE, THE COASTAL BEND BAYS AND ESTUARIES, THE AQUARIUM AND OTHER INSTITUTIONAL INPUT, AND THEN WE WANT TO HAVE SOME LOCAL EXPERTS TOO ENGINEERS SCIENTISTS, ET CETERA, ENVIRONMENTAL ADVOCATES. SO IT'S GOING TO BE A PRETTY DIVERSE GROUP THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO BUILD. TO HELP US THROUGH THIS, WE ARE GOING TO BRING ON A FACILITATOR. I'VE BEEN EVALUATING A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT FACILITATOR OPTIONS. WE HAVE FOUND ONE THAT IS A NATIONWIDE COMPANY. THEY DO ENVIRONMENTAL FACILITATION. THIS IS KIND OF THEIR BREAD AND BUTTER, THEY'RE EXPERTS, SO THEY HAVE FOUR OFFICES IN THE STATE OF TEXAS, THE CLOSEST OF WHICH IS SAN ANTONIO. SO WE'VE ACTUALLY REACHED OUT TO THEM TO GIVE US A PROPOSAL. WE HOPE TO HAVE THAT THIS WEEK, SO THAT WILL BE AT LEAST THE COMPANY WE'RE LOOKING TO HAVE FACILITATE THIS FOR THE ENTIRE PROCESS. AND THEN LASTLY, WE'RE WORKING WITH PLUMBER ASSOCIATES. WE HAVE AN EXISTING MSA CONTRACT WITH THEM, AND WE'RE LOOKING TO HAVE THEM DEVELOP THE SCOPE FOR THE FAR FIELD MODELING EFFORT, AND WE'RE GOING TO GET THIS SCOPE AND WE'RE GOING TO ACTUALLY HOLD ONTO IT UNTIL WE ESTABLISH THE COMMITTEE, AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO CIRCULATE THE SCOPING DOCUMENT WITH THE COMMITTEE TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THEIR INPUT AS WELL AS STAFF INPUT. WE'RE TRYING TO BE AS COLLABORATIVE AS POSSIBLE, SO WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO, ONE, GET THE COMMITTEE ESTABLISHED, AND THEN START THE PROCESS OF GETTING THEM INCLUDED IN EVERY STEP OF THE WAY. SO HERE'S A VERY HIGH-LEVEL SCHEDULE FOR ALL THE DIFFERENT ACTIVITIES WE HAVE. SO THE HOPE IS WE ARE ABLE TO GET THIS COMMITTEE ESTABLISHED AND COMMITTED TO THE PROCESS BY JANUARY. AND THEN WE WILL START THE ENGAGEMENT PROCESS, SO THAT WILL INCLUDE MEETINGS, CIRCULATING INFORMATION, LIKE THE SCOPING DOCUMENT. AND THEN WE'LL HAVE THE FACILITATOR ALSO ON BOARD IN JANUARY. AND THE NEXT STEP AFTER WE HAVE THOSE INDIVIDUALS ON BOARD IS TO SELECT A MODELER. SO THE PLAN IS TO ACTUALLY RECOMMEND A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT -- DIFFERENT QUALIFIED COMPANIES TO THE COMMITTEE FOR REVIEW AND CONSIDERATION, AND THEN WE'LL TAKE EVERYBODY'S INPUT, MAKE A SELECTION ON THE MODELER, GET THEM ON BOARD, AND THE HOPE IS WE HAVE THEM ON BOARD BY FEBRUARY. AND THEN WE'LL START THE MODELING PROCESS. NOW, THE GOAL IS TO HAVE ALL OF THE MODELING EFFORT COMPLETED BY APRIL, WHICH IS OUR ANTICIPATED DATE OF COMING BACK TO CITY COUNCIL FOR THE CONTRACT WITH CORPUS CHRISTI DESAL PARTNERS. NOW, I KNOW WE HAVE A STEP BEFORE THAT, IN FEBRUARY WE'RE GOING TO BE COMING WITH OPTIONS. ASSUMING THAT WE'RE ALL OKAY AND WE SELECT AN OPTION AND WE MOVE FORWARD WITH A CONTRACT DEVELOPMENT, THE PLAN WOULD BE TO BRING THAT CONTRACT FOR CONSIDERATION TO COUNCIL IN APRIL. SO THE GOAL IS TO HAVE THE MODELING EFFORT DONE BY THEN. THAT MAY NOT BE POSSIBLE. MORE TIME MAY BE NEEDED IN ORDER TO DO THE COMPREHENSIVE MODEL. AND THAT'S WHY I HAVE ON HERE POSSIBLE TIME EXTENSION. SO IT MAY BE THAT THE MODELING, AS WELL AS EVERYBODY'S COMMITMENT HAVE TO BE EXTENDED UNTIL THE SUMMERTIME FRAME, BUT, AGAIN, WE'RE TARGETING APRIL. I JUST WANTED EXPECTATION MANAGEMENT. WE'VE HAD INPUT FROM VARIOUS EXPERTS AND THEY BELIEVE THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO THIS IN MAY NOT BE POSSIBLE, JUST BECAUSE IT'S A COMPREHENSIVE PROCESS, AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DO IT RIGHT. SO THAT'S -- THAT'S THE END OF THIS PRESENTATION. I STAND BY FOR ANY QUESTIONS. >> Mayor Guajardo: THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN CANTU? >> Cantu: THANK YOU, MAYOR. PETER E WHEN ARE WE SUPPOSED TO GET THE PRICE BACK? >> Zanoni: MID FEBRUARY WE'RE TARGETING TO GET SOME PRICE-CERTAIN PROPOSALS FROM THAT FIRM. >> Cantu: SO MY QUESTION IS, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A PRICE BACK BY FEBRUARY, MORE OR LESS. FAR FIELD STUDY'S NOT GOING TO BE DONE UNTIL A FEW MONTHS AFTER, POSSIBLY LATER ON IN JUNE AND JULY, I BELIEVE YOU SAID. >> SO WE'RE TARGETING APRIL. I'M JUST BEING UP FRONT THAT -- >> Cantu: YEAH. MY CONCERN IS WHEN THAT VOTE COMES WE DON'T HAVE THE STUDY BACK. >> THAT'S POSSIBLE. >> Cantu: AND THAT'S MY ONLY ROAD BLOCK THAT I SEE HAPPENING ON THAT VOTE. I MEAN, THAT'S THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF GETTING THE FAR FIELD STUDY IS TO MAKE SURE IT'S SAFE FOR THE BAY BEFORE WE VOTE, IF IT'S A GOOD PRICE FOR THE INNER HARBOR PROJECT. SO THAT'S -- I REALLY HOPE WE GET THIS DONE PRETTY QUICK. I KNOW THERE'S A COMPANY THAT DID IT FOR THE PORT OF CORPUS CHRISTI, WHO ALREADY HAS THE DATA -- MAJORITY OF THE DATA OF THE INNER HARBOR. YOU KNOW, IT WOULD BE PRETTY SMART TO FINISH WHERE HE LEFT OFF OF, YOU KNOW? HOWEVER, I JUST -- IT JUST CONCERNS ME THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE IT BACK TO VOTE IF THE PRICE IS A GOOD PRICE ON THE INNER HARBOR PROJECT. AND THEN DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE ON THE BOARD OR COMMITTEE FOR THIS? >> NOT YET. ONCE WE GET COUNCIL'S INPUT AND WE GO BACK AND EVALUATE THE LIST OF STAKEHOLDERS THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY CONSIDERING -- >> Cantu: OKAY. >> -- WE'LL BE ABLE TO DETERMINE THAT. >> Cantu: HOW ARE YOU GUYS GOING TO DETERMINE WHO'S ON AND WHO'S NOT? IS IT GOING TO BE LIKE THE MAJORITY OF THE COUNCIL NAMES, LIKE A VOTING SYSTEM? HOW ARE YOU GUYS GOING TO DETERMINE IF JOE THE PLUMBER'S GOING TO GET ON THERE VERSUS SOMEONE ELSE? >> SO THE WAY WE'RE WORKING ON IT RIGHT NOW IS -- AS I KIND OF MENTIONED EARLIER, WE'RE LOOKING AT DIFFERENT CRITERIA. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE TOUCH ALL THE CUSTOMER CLASSES, REPRESENTATION FROM THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY. >> Cantu: OKAY. >> THE LARGE VOLUME COMMUNITY. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE ENVIRONMENTAL ADVOCACIES, WE HAVE EXPERTS, ENGINEERS, ENVIRONMENTAL SCIENTISTS, SO WE'VE KIND OF BROKEN IT DOWN TO DIFFERENT CATEGORIES. WE HAVEN'T LANDED ON ANYTHING IN PARTICULAR, BUT WE HAVE COME UP WITH A COUPLE NAMES FOR CONSIDERATION. >> Cantu: OKAY. >> BUT KEY RIGHT NOW IS GETTING Y'ALL'S INPUT, AND THEN STAFF WILL PUT TOGETHER A LIST TOUCHING ALL THESE DIFFERENT AREAS THAT I KIND OF MENTIONED. THERE'S MORE. AND WE'LL WORK WITH THE CITY MANAGER TO COME UP WITH A LIST THAT WE BELIEVE IS A FAIR REPRESENTATION OF THE COMMUNITY. >> Cantu: IS THAT GOING TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL FOR A VOTE? >> Zanoni: IT DOESN'T NEED -- NO, IT DOESN'T NEED TO, COUNCILMAN. WE CAN BRING IT AND PRESENT IT TO YOU, THOUGH. WE'RE NOT GOING TO REJECT ANY COUNCILMEMBER'S RECOMMENDATION. YOU'RE GOING TO GIVE US ONE OR TWO, AND WORKING WITH ONE OF THE COUNCILMEMBERS, I THINK COUNCILWOMAN CAMPOS, WE DID TALK ABOUT RESIDENCY, SO WE'D LIKE SOMEBODY TO BE AT LEAST IN OUR SERVICE REGION, YOU KNOW, WE SERVE SEVEN COUNTIES, SO THE QUESTION WAS, DO THEY HAVE TO BE A CITY RESIDENT? IT WOULD BE GOOD IF THEY ARE, BUT IF THEY'RE IN THE REGION OR IF THEY LIVE IN PORTLAND OR GREGORY, WE SERVE SEVEN COUNTIES. THEY SHOLD BE AT LEAST IN OUR SERVICE AREA OF CCW, BUT WHATEVER YOU GIVE US FOR YOUR RECOMMENDED ONE OR TWO NAMES, WE'RE GOING TO ACCEPT. THE DIFFERENCE IS THAT WE DO WANT REPRESENTATION FROM TAMU CC'S HEART INSTITUTE, FOR EXAMPLE, SO IF NOBODY ON THE COUNCIL PUTS ANYBODY ON THERE, WE'LL ADD THEM. WE WANT TO BALANCE IT TO MAKE SURE DIVERSITY IS MET, WE DON'T WANT ALL MEN, WE WANT SOME SCIENTISTS, WE WANT ENVIRONMENTALIST, MAYBE SOME LARGE VOLUME USER TYPE PEOPLE. THE GOAL IS HAVING A WELL-BALANCED COMMITTEE. SO THE NUMBER, IF IT GETS TOO BIG, IT BECOMES UNWIELDY AND TOUGH -- >> Cantu: I AGREE. >> Zanoni: SO NINE TIMES TWO IS 18, WE WERE THINKING LIKE 22 25. YOU KNOW, ADD A FEW MORE, DEPENDING. SO IT'S REALLY GOING TO DEPEND ON YOUR INPUT, AND THAT'S WHY WE -- THIS IS ON THE AGENDA TODAY, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE CAN GET YOUR NAMES BY THIS FRIDAY, BECAUSE AS COUNCILMAN CANTU SAID, TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE. >> Cantu: 82, YEAH, WE NEED TO PUSH FORWARD PRETTY QUICK ON THIS. >> Zanoni: RIGHT. WE'LL COMMUNICATE WITH YOU EXTENSIVELY ON HOW THE COMMITTEE'S LOOKING AND WE CAN COME BACK THAT FIRST MEETING IN JANUARY IF YOU'D LIKE IN THE OPEN MEETING, JUST TO PRESENT IT. BUT WE'LL BE COMMUNICATING VIA MEMO AND PHONE CONVERSATION. >> Cantu: I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD GET ANYBODY WHO HAS ANY KIND OF FINANCIAL INTEREST IN IT, ANY CONTRACTORS THAT ARE GOING TO BE WORKING ON THE PROJECT. >> Zanoni: RIGHT, THAT WOULD BE -- NO, WE WOULDN'T LET THAT. NO, AGREED ON THAT. >> Cantu: THANK YOU. >> Zanoni: THAT'S WHY WE'RE MANAGING IT THIS TIME INSTEAD OF THE CONTRACTOR. >> Cantu: AND THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU'RE DOING, OKAY. APPRECIATE IT. >> THANK YOU. COUNCILWO MAN CAMPOS? >> Campos: THANK YOU, MAYOR. AND THANK YOU, AGAIN, FOR ANSWERING MY QUESTION, BECAUSE I THINK INITIALLY WHEN I ASKED ABOUT CAN I RECOMMEND SOMEONE THAT IS, LIKE, PERHAPS -- LIVES IN PORTLAND, IS A CHEMICAL ENGINEER, AND I -- YOU KNOW, AT FIRST, I THINK I WAS TOLD NO, THAT IT WAS RECOMMENDED OR SUGGESTED THAT IT SHOULD BE SOMEBODY FROM THE COMMUNITY BUT AGAIN WE SERVE HOW MANY COUNTIES, FIVE? >> Zanoni: SEVEN. >> Campos: OKAY. SO WE SERVE SEVEN COUNTIES SO, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY IF IT'S SOMEBODY THAT LIVES IN PORTLAND AND HAS A BACKGROUND WITH THAT. SO I'M GLAD THAT YOU'RE ACKNOWLEDGING THAT THAT WOULD BE ACCEPTABLE. >> Zanoni: UH-HUH. >> Campos: THE OTHER THING IS, YOU KNOW, KIEWIT. KIEWIT SPENT -- I MEAN, THEY ACTUALLY USED -- DIDN'T THEY USE SOME OF THE SAME DATA THAT THE PORT HAD ALREADY PRODUCED? >> NO. THEY USED SOME OF THE DATA FROM NOAA, AND I WOULD BUTCHER THE ACRONYM, BUT IT'S FROM THE NATIONAL OCEAN GRAPHIC ATMOSPHERIC ASSOCIATION, I THINK IS WHAT IT IS THEY USED DATA -- THERE'S OTHER MONITORS AROUND THE SYSTEM WHERE THERE'S DATA AVAILABLE, THEY USED THAT TYPE OF INFORMATION TO INPUT INTO THEIR MODELING. THEY DIDN'T ACTUALLY TAKE THE PORT'S DATA AND UTILIZE THAT. THEY USED ALL NEW DATA AND DID INPUTS INTO THEIR PROGRAM THAT MIC3 PROGRAM. >> Campos: OKAY. BECAUSE I ALSO REMEMBER THAT THERE WAS SOMEONE THAT WAS OFFERING THEIR SERVICES TO US, I DON'T -- AND, YOU KNOW, THEY WERE GOING TO REACH OUT, I GUESS, TO THE PORT TO SEE IF THEY WOULD LET US USE SOME OF THAT INFORMATION. DO YOU KNOW WHATEVER HAPPENED WITH THAT? >> NO, MA'AM. >> Campos: NO? OKAY. AND THE OTHER IS, KIEWIT TOOK HOW LONG TO DO THEIR ANALYSIS OF THE -- THEIR MODELING? >> THEIR MODELING, THE MODELING EFFORT LEADING UP TO WHEN WE ACTUALLY DID THE PRESENTATION, IT WAS ABOUT THREE TO FOUR MONTHS. AND THAT WASN'T -- THEY DIDN'T COMPLETE ALL THE MODELING. >> Campos: OKAY. AND HOW FAR DID THEY GO OUT, DO YOU KNOW? >> FOR THEIR AREA THAT THEY COVERED? >> Campos: UH-HUH. >> IT WITH US THE SHIP CHANNEL ALL THE WAY FROM THE EAST TO THE WEST, AND THEY BASICALLY STOPPED RIGHT AT THE MOUTH OF THE SHIP CHANNEL BY THE AQUARIUM, BY THE BRIDGE AREA. SO THAT WAS IT. THEY ONLY COVERED THAT AREA. >> Campos: OKAY. SO THIS IS GOING TO BE A -- >> THIS WILL BE ALL OF NUECES BAY AND CORPUS CHRISTI BAY AND THE SHIP CHANNEL. >> Campos: OKAY. BECAUSE, AGAIN, THIS PROPOSED PLANT IS GOING TO BE USING THE SAME WATER FROM THE BAY TO, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, DISCHARGE IT BACK INTO THE BAY, SO, YEAH, THIS IS LIKE SUPER IMPORTANT. OKAY. SO -- BUT, AGAIN, BACK TO THE POINT THAT COUNCILMAN CANTU WAS SAYING IS THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE THAT INFORMATION WHEN THE VOTE COMES BACK TO SEE WHETHER, YOU KNOW, THIS COUNCIL WILL MOVE FORWARD WITH THE INNER HARBOR. SO I WOULDN'T -- I CAN'T IMAGINE THAT WE WOULD HAVE THAT VOTE. WHY WOULD -- >> Zanoni: NOT TO INTERRUPT, BUT WE'RE NOT FOR CERTAIN YET. IT'S GOING TO DEPEND ON THE SELECTED VENDOR, THE CONTRACTOR. SO NOBODY CAN SAY WHETHER IT'S GOING TO BE IN IN TIME OR NOT. WE DON'T KNOW FOR SURE. WHAT WE DO KNOW IS THE COMMITTEE AND THE WORK IS GOING TO BE WEEKLY, SO THERE WILL BE A LOT OF KNOWLEDGE AND INFORMATION, THERE COULD BE A PRELIMINARY FINDING OR ASSESSMENT, AND SO I WOULD WAIT UNTIL WE GET THE -- AT LEAST THE VENDOR AND THEN GET THEIR ACTUAL TIMELINE BEFORE WE RUSH TO -- OR NOT RUSH, BUT BEFORE WE GET TO A CONCLUSION ON WILL WE HAVE IT OR NOT BEFORE WE TAKE THE VOTE. BECAUSE IT REALLY W WILL DEPEND ON THE VENDOR. WE KNOW SOME VENDORS HAVE ALREADY DONE WORK IN THE REGION, AND IF THEY'RE SELECTED, THEY'LL HAVE A HEAD START. WE'LL SHOW YOU THAT EARLY IN JANUARY AFTER WE SELECT THE VENDOR. BUT THE WAY I'M LOOKING AT IT, THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF WORK AND THE COMMITTEE'S GOING TO BE ENGAGED EVERY STEP OF THE WAY. IT'S NOT THAT WE PICK THEM AND THEN SIX MONTHS LATER WE SHOW A REPORT TO THEM. >> Campos: NO, THEY'RE GOING TO BE PARTICIPATING. >> Zanoni: I THINK THEY CAN ATTEST, WE HAVE CONCERNS OR THINGS ARE LOOKING GREAT, SO YOU'LL HAVE DATA, KNOWLEDGE AND INPUT ALONG THE WAY. >> Campos: WELL, AND I AM -- I MEAN, I WOULD IMAGINE THAT -- I MEAN, THE HEART INSTITUTE IS PROBABLY THE VERY FIRST ONE THAT WE WOULD WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE PART OF THIS COMMITTEE. >> Zanoni: NO, ABSOLUTELY. >> Campos: BECAUSE THEY'RE VIELT L. >> Zanoni: WE AGREE. >> Campos: ALL RIGHT. WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> Zanoni: AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR NAMESES, COUNCILWOMAN. THANK YOU FOR YOUR NAMES. WE GOT THEM ALREADY. COUNCILMA N HERNANDEZ? >> Hernandez: OKAY. WHEN YOU HAD SLU SUGGESTED PLUMBER TO DO THIS FAR FIELD, THEY WERE SUBCONTRACTED BY FREESE & NICHOLS TO DO THE NEAR FIELD MODEL, WERE YOU AWARE OF THAT? >> ON THE ORIGINAL PERMIT. >> Hernandez: ON THE ORIGINAL PERMIT. >> YES. >> Hernandez: DO YOU NOT SEE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST WITH THAT? >> NO. SO, AGAIN, THE PLAN IS TO USE PLUMBER TO HELP DEVELOP THE INITIAL SCOPING DOCUMENT WHICH WILL THEN BE CIRCULATED AMONGST THE ENTIRE COMMITTEE FOR INPUT AND CONSIDERATION. WE PLAN ON WORKING WITH THIS COMMITTEE TO DEVELOP THE SCOPING DOCUMENT THAT WILL BE USED. >> Hernandez: SO I'M ASSUMING THAT MOST OF THE PEOPLE ON THIS COMMITTEE ARE NOT GOING TO BE HYDROLOGISTS, RIGHT? >> IT'S GOING TO BE A DIVERSE GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT ARE EXPERTS, NOT EXPERTS. >> Hernandez: SO WHY NOT REACH OUT TO THE PORT AND ASK THEM FOR THEIR INFORMATION OR THEIR COMPANY THAT DID THE FAR FIELD MODEL FOR THEIR EFFORTS? >> WE REACHED OUT TO A COMPANY THAT WE KNOW IS QUALIFIED AND CAPABLE OF DOING THE MODELING EFFORT, WHICH IS PLUMBER. WE HAVE A MASTER SERVICE AGREEMENT -- >> Hernandez: ARE YOU SAYING THE PORT DIDN'T HAVE A QUALIFIED PERSON TO DO -- >> I'M NOT SAYING THEY DON'T. BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS THE CITY HAS AN DISMISSING MASTER SERVICE AGREEMENT WITH A QUALIFIED COMPANY THAT'S MORE THAN CAPABLE OF PUTTING TOGETHER A SCOPING DOCUMENT AND WE'RE GOING TO CIRCULATE IT AMONGST, AGAIN, THIS COMMITTEE TO PROVIDE WHATEVER INPUT IS NEEDED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ALL AGREE THAT IT'S THE RIGHT SCOPE FOR THE WORK WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH. >> Zanoni: WE CAN HAVE THE SPORT PORT REVIEW IT IF YOU WANT TO DO THAT AS WELL. >> Hernandez: IT'S NOT THAT THE PORT REVIEW IT, YOU'RE LOOKING AT A TIME CONSTWRAINT AS WELL. IF THERE'S THE DATA THAT WAS UTILIZED IN THE FAR FIELD DONE BY THE PART CAN BE UTILIZED SINCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NUECES BAY AND CORPUS CHRISTI BAY, WHICH THEY INCLUDED IN THEIR FAR FIELD MODEL, IT SEEMS THAT YOU COULD UTILIZE SOME OF THAT DATA THAT'S ALREADY IN PLACE. >> Zanoni: THEY MAY, RIGHT? THE CONSULTANT THAT WILL SELECT WITH THE COMMITTEE'S HELP, THEY MAY USE THAT DATA. BUT WE CAN CHECK -- I THINK THE QUESTION INITIALLY WAS, IN WRITING THE DRAFT DOCUMENT FOR THE REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL, PLUMBER'S GOING TO HELP DO THAT. THAT'S ALL THEY'RE DOING. BUT WE CAN REVIEW THAT WITH THE PORT, IF THEY HAVE EXPERTISE, YOU KNOW, IT'S PEER REVIEWED. >> Hernandez: WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET ACROSS HERE IS I DON'T THINK PLUMBER SHOULD DO THE FAR FIELD MODEL BECAUSE THEY DID THE NEAR FIELD MODEL. >> THEY'RE NOT DOING ANY MODELING. THEY'RE JUST HELPING US WITH THE -- >> Zanoni: THEY'RE HELPING US WRITE A DRAFT OF THE RFP TO REQUEST PROPOSALS FROM MODELERS. >> THAT'S RIGHT. >> Zanoni: WHAT I'M SAYING IS THE PORT HAS DONE SOME OF THIS WORK SO WE CAN CHECK WITH THEM WHEN WE GET THE DRAFT RFP, WE'LL HAVE KEN BRITON AND HIS TEAM REVIEW IT. THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. >> Hernandez: YEAH, I WOULD THINK IT WOULD BE EITHER ENGINEERING LEAD, I THINK HER NAME IS SARAH GARZA. >> Zanoni: YEAH, SARAH, UH-HUH. >> Hernandez: THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE MY PERSON TO BE ON THIS COMMITTEE. >> Zanoni: SUBMIT IT BY FRIDAY. >> Hernandez: THERE YOU GO. YOU GOT IT. I HAD SOME ISSUES THERE, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE TRY AND DO THIS SO THERE'S NO POSSIBILITY OF CONFLICT OF INTEREST. >> Zanoni: I KNOW. WE'RE AWARE. BRETT BROUGHT IT TO MY ATTENTION THAT PLUMBER WAS THE SUBCONSULTANT, BUT WE'VE GOT TO START SUMMER. BRETT AND I DON'T WRITE RFPS FOR FAR FIELDS, BUT PLUMBER HAS BEFORE. PLUMBER IS KIND OF THE BASE -- IS THE BEGINNING OF HELPING US WRITE IT, BECAUSE WE'RE NOT EXPERTS IN FAR FIELD MODELING, BUT PLUMBER'S DONE IT BEFORE AND WE HAVE THEM UNDER CONTRACT, SO FOR THE EXPEDIENCY, THAT WAS THE PLAN WE PUT TOGETHER. YES SIR. >> Hernandez: WELL, THE DEVIL'S IN THE DETAILS SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE DOING THIS THE RIGHT WAY AND ABOVE BOARD, LET'S NOT JUST LOOK AT IT AS A CHECK IN THE BOX. >> Zanoni: EXCUSE ME. NOBODY'S DOING IT AS A CHECK IN THE BOX, COUNCILMAN. >> Mayor Guajardo: NO. AND PETER, I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'RE DOING. BECAUSE WHAT YOU'RE DOING BY ALLOWING THIS VERY COUNCIL TO HAVE A VOICE ON THIS COMMITTEE THROUGH WHOMEVER THEY PUT, THERE'S -- THAT DIDN'T EXIST BEFORE. AND I THINK THAT SPEAKS VOLUMES FOR WHAT Y'ALL ARE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH. >> Zanoni: THIS IS GOING TO BE A VERY BIG EFFORT, COUNCILMAN HERNANDEZ, IT'S NOT A CHECK ON THE BOX. THIS IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN THE LAST TIME AROUND,. >> Mayor Guajardo: A LOT DIFFERENT. >> Zanoni: AND SO I RECOMMENDED IT. WE'LL BE HERE MANY TIMES IN THE COMING SIX TO EIGHT MONTHS WITH THIS COUNCIL AND THE COMMUNITY MARJANOVIC RIGHT. . >> Mayor Guajardo: RIGHT. WE APPRECIATE IT. COUNCILWOMAN VAUGHN? >> Vaughn: BRETT, I THINK YOU'VE PUT A LOT INTO IT. I'M GLAD YOU'RE GETTING A FACILITATOR. MR. ZANONI, I THINK YOU SAID TWO NAMES. IF WE ALL PUT ONE, YOU KNOW HOW EVERYBODY LIKES TO TALK, LOOK HERE. YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TOO MANY PEOPLE ON THE COMMITTEE. I THINK IF WE ALL PICK ONE OR CHOOSE ONE INSTEAD OF TWO. I DO HAVE THE SAME CONCERNS HE DOES ABOUT PLUMBER. I'M GOING TO BE HONEST, AND I THINK IT'S BECAUSE OF WHAT WE'VE EXPERIENCED AS FAR AS SOME OF US UP HERE WITH FREESE & NICHOLS. SO I DO UNDERSTAND THAT. BUT I ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO DO THE FINAL THING, SO THAT'S A GOOD THING. SO I UNDERSTAND WHY YOU'RE DOING IT TO MOVE IT FORWARD. >> Zanoni: YEAH, THEIR WORK IS LIMITED IN SCOPE. PLUMBER AND IT'S REALLY DRAFT WORK. IT'S JUST TO GET US GOING. >> Vaughn: I'M SURE THEY'RE A GOOD COMPANY, I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST THEM. >> Zanoni: THEY'RE JUST DOING THE REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL SOLICITATION. THEY'RE NOT DOING ANY FAR FIELD MODELING, THEY'RE NOT GETTING DATA. WE WORK WITH THE COMMITTEE AND THE PORT OF CORPUS CHRISTI. >> Vaughn: I'M GOOD WITH THAT, THANK YOU. >> Zanoni: THEN WE ISSUE IT AND -- MAIRN AND -- >> Mayor Guajardo: I AGREE WITH HER SUGGESTION OF ONE. EVERYBODY SUBMITTING ONE NAME AS OPPOSED TO TWO. >> Zanoni: IT'S THE WILL OF THE COUNCIL. WE DID RECEIVE TWO FROM COUNCILWOMAN CAMPOS ALREADY. COUNCILMA N CANTU -- GOOD. YOU'VE GOT THAT DIRECTION. >> Cantu: QUICK QUESTION. HAS THE CITY EVER ASKED THE PORT OF CORPUS CHRISTI FOR THEIR FAR FIELD STUDY? >> WE -- >> Zanoni: YES. THE ANSWER IS YES, WE DID. >> Cantu: OKAY. >> Zanoni: THEY GAVE IT TO US AFTER SOME LEGAL MANEUVERING, BUT WE GOT IT. WE GOT THE RAW DATA AND THEIR REPORTS. >> THAT'S RIGHT. >> Cantu: GOT YOU. >> Zanoni: THAT WAS A YEAR OR SO AGO. >> Cantu: COYOU HAVE A BRYCE TAG ON THIS FAR FIELD STUDY GOING TO COST? >> I DON'T RIGHT NOW. I THINK LAST TIME WE SAID UP TO 100,000. >> Cantu: OKAY. >> Zanoni: BETWEEN 50 AND 100, YEAH. >> Cantu: I JUST DON'T WANT ANY CONTRACT TO TRY AND POKE OUR EYES AND -- A MILLION DOLLARS OR SOMETHING, YOU KNOW. >> Zanoni: YEAH, WE AGREE ON THAT. >> Cantu: I JUST WANT TO FIND OUT ABOUT THAT. AND THEN I'M WITH COUNCILWOMAN VAUGHN ABOUT THE GROUP OF PEOPLE. I MEAN, 20-SOME PEOPLE, THAT'S -- EVERYONE'S GOING TO DISAGREE. SO I THINK A SHORTER GROUP -- SMALLER GROUP WOULD BE BETTER. YOU KNOW, 12, BUT -- I DON'T KNOW. >> Zanoni: OKAY. WE'LL WORK WITH YOU. WE AGREE THE SMALLER THE GROUP, PROBABLY THE MORE PRODUCTIVE. >> Cantu: YEAH. >> Zanoni: WHEN YOU START GETTING PAST 15, IT'S JUST -- YOU KNOW, IT CAN -- >> Cantu: YEAH, I MEAN, WE'VE GOT NINE HERE, WE CAN'T EVEN GET ALONG SOMETIMES, SO... >> Zanoni: RIGHT. >> Cantu: BUT -- OKAY. THANK YOU. >> Mayor Guajardo: THANK YOU, BRETT. >> Zanoni: MAYOR AND COUNCIL, JUST ONE MORE ITEM AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO TURN THE MEETING OVER TO YOU. THE WATER CONSERVATION PLAN WE DO HAVE, WE KNOW IT HAS TO BE UPDATED, LAST WEEK ALSO WE SENT OUT A MEMO TO THE COUNCIL TO GET SOLICITATED NAMES FROM YOU ALL ON A COMMITTEE THAT WOULD WORK WITH NICK AND TEAM TO UPDATE OUR CONSERVATION PLAN. WE DO HAVE ONE, BUT IT'S BEEN A NUMBER OF YEARS BEFORE IT'S BEEN UPDATED. SO NICK'S GOING TO GIVE US A QUICK OVERVIEW OF WHO WE WANT TO PUT ON THIS COMMITTEE AND WHAT WE REQUEST FROM CITY COUNCIL. >> Mayor Guajardo: OKAY. >> Winkelmann: SURE. IT'S ANOTHER ADVISORY COMMITTEE WE'RE PUTTING TOGETHER TO UPDATE THE WATER CONSERVATION PLAN. WE'VE REQUESTED IN A MEMO THREE NOMINATIONS FROM EACH OF YOU AND THE CITY MANAGER THAT ARE DUE BY THE END OF THIS WEEK -- BY THE END OF BUSINESS DAY, DECEMBER 19TH. THE PLAN IS FOR MEETINGS TO TAKE PLACE OVER A THREE-MONTH PERIOD, STARTING IN JANUARY. OUR HOPE IS THAT THE -- AT THE END OF THOSE THREE MONTHS, WE WILL HAVE A WATER CONSERVATION PLAN THAT WE CAN BRING BACK TO COUNCIL FOR REVIEW. THE GOAL IS TO GATHER INPUT FROM THIS DIVERSE COMMITTEE TO WEIGH IN ON THE EXISTING PLAN AND FUTURE ACTIONS. THE COMMITTEE WOULD, AGAIN, WE'RE LOOKING FOR VARIOUS CUSTOMER CLASSES, INCLUDING RESIDENTIAL COMMERCIAL INDUSTRY AND INSTITUTIONAL. AND THEN THE PURPOSE -- THE OVERARCHING PURPOSE OF THE COMMITTEE IS TO DEVELOP STRATEGIES AND PROGRAMS THAT THE CITY CAN UTILIZE GOING FORWARD. WE SPR -- AS I STATED PREVIOUSLY IN A COUNCIL MEETING, WE HAVE ALREADY CONTRACTED WITH PLUMBER TO DO A REFRESH OF THE EXISTING PLAN THAT WAS LAST REVISED IN 2020. THAT REFRESH WOULD BE PROVIDED TO THE COMMITTEE SO THAT THEY CAN REVIEW THAT AND PROVIDE ANY UPDATES OR ANY OTHER SUGGESTIONS THAT THE COMMITTEE MAY FEEL IS APPROPRIATE. WITH THAT, I'LL STAND BY ANY QUESTIONS. I THINK THE KEY POINT IS WE WOULD LIKE NOMINATIONS, UP TO THREE, BY THE END OF THE DAY FRIDAY. AND IF I COULD, JUST TO CLARIFY, COUNCILWOMAN CAMPOS, MY COMMENT WAS WHEN POSSIBLE, I THOUGHT IT MIGHT BE GOOD TO HAVE A CITIZEN AS PART OF THAT GROUP. IN OTHER WORDS, IF THERE WAS A SCIENTIST THAT MET THE SCIENTIFIC QUALIFICATIONS BUT WAS ALSO A CITIZEN OF THE CITY, I WOULD THINK THAT WOULD BE PREFERRED. >> Campos: YEAH. COUNCILWO MAN CAMPOS? >> Campos: THANK YOU, MAYOR. THAT'S THE ONLY REASON WHY I WAS THINKING OF THIS PERSON, IS THAT PERSON IS A CHEMICAL ENGINEER AND LIVES OUT IN PORTLAND, SO I THOUGHT THAT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, AN IDEAL CANDIDATE, SO I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT, -- YOU KNOW, THAT THEY WOULD BE ACCEPTABLE. >> Winkelmann: ABSOLUTELY. >> Campos: OKAY. BUT BACK TO THIS RECOMMENDATION, IT'S FUNNY HOW IT WAS DISCUSSED THAT LESS IS BETTER BECAUSE IT'S MORE EFFICIENT AS FAR AS HAVING THE MEMBERSHIP, YOU KNOW, SET UP, RIGHT. SO NOW YOU'RE SAYING THREE RECOMMENDATIONS, AND WE'RE GOING BACK ON THE OTHER COMMITTEE RECOMMENDING LESS. SO I'M JUST KIND OF -- >> Mayor Guajardo: WELL, THAT JUST CAME UP ON THE DAIS, BUT I THINK THE SAME APPLIES, IF YOU GUYS ARE -- >> Campos: OKAY. >> Mayor Guajardo: YEAH. >> Campos: THIS IS -- YOU KNOW, FOR THREE MONTHS AND WE WANT TO DO AN EFFICIENT AND, YOU KNOW, GOOD RECOMMENDATIONS AND DO THEM QUICKLY. I WOULD PROBABLY GO WITH THE SAME, ABOUT 12, I THINK, WOULD BE A GOOD -- >> Mayor Guajardo: I AGREE. OR ONE EACH. >> Campos: AT LEAST 12, YOU KNOW. >> Zanoni: THAT'S FINE. >> Campos: AND, AGAIN, I ALREADY SUBMITTED SOME NAMES TO YOU BUT ONLY BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THIS CONSERVATION -- LIKE I'VE BEEN SAYING BEFORE, IT SEEMS LIKE -- NOT SEEMS. WE DID. WE STARTED BACKWARDS. WE SHOULD HAVE STARTED WITH CONSERVATION, YOU KNOW, BEFORE WE WERE IN THE DROUGHT, BUT HERE WE ARE. WE'RE GOING TO DO WHAT WE CAN. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I DO WANT TO SEE IS I WANT TO SEE THIS COMMITTEE, IF POSSIBLE, ACTUALLY GO OUT THERE TO SOME OF THESE PLANTS AND DO SITE VISITS, BECAUSE I DID ASK YOU, NICK, HAD YOU DONE A SITE VISIT ON ANY OF THE PLANTS? BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT LIKE GULF COAST GROWTH VENTURES, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE THE NEWEST, AND THEN THE OLDEST IS CITGO. AND, YOU KNOW, SO WE'VE GOT LIKE A PLANT THAT'S BEEN HERE FOR OVER 50 YEARS VERSUS ONE THAT'S BEEN HERE LESS THAN FIVE YEARS. AND SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE -- AS US BEING THE ONES TRYING TO UTILIZE -- TRYING TO SEE WHOSE USING -- OR WHO WAS BEING SUFFICIENT, HOPEFULLY INDUSTRY IS LISTENING, WHICH I'M SURE THEY ARE, THAT THEY WOULD WELCOME THAT. THEY WOULD WELCOME COMMITTEE MEMBERS THAT ARE INTERESTED TO SEE HOW THEY USE THEIR WATER. AND, YOU KNOW, LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, HOW MANY TIMES THEY REUSE THEIR WATER, I DON'T KNOW. SO I JUST WOULD LIKE TO THROW THAT OUT THERE AND SEE IF, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT THE COMMITTEE WOULD LIKE TO TAKE OR -- SO -- SO, YEAH, I GUESS THAT'S IT FOR NOW. >> Mayor Guajardo: THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN. I THINK THAT'S IT. PETER, I THINK IT'S CLEAR WE'RE GOING TO DO ONE ACROSS THE BOARD. >> Zanoni: YES. >> Mayor Guajardo: AND PLEASE SUBMIT THEM BY FRIDAY. SENDING THEM TO NICK OR YOU, PETER. >> Zanoni: YES. >> Mayor Guajardo: THAT CONCLUDES YOUR REPORT. >> Zanoni: IT DOES, THANK YOU. >> Mayor Guajardo: AS WE HAVE BEGUN TODAY'S MIT MEETING, THIS IS A PLACE FOR CIVIL BUSINESS, IT IS NOT A STAGE FOR DISRUPTIONS AND WE WILL NOT TOLERATE VIOLATIONS OF DECORUM. WE ARE HERE TO DO THE PEOPLE'S WORK SO LET'S PROCEED IN THAT SPIRIT. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON A SPECIFIC ITEM DURING ITS DISCUSSION, YOU DO NOT NEED TO SIGN UP BEFOREHAND, I WILL ASK FOR PUBLIC COMMENT WHEN THE COUNCIL CONSIDERS THE ITEM. AT THAT TIME YOU CAN COME UP TO THE PODIUM TO SPEAK. I'LL ASK THE CITY ATTORNEY TO REVIEW THE COUNCIL DECORUM MEETINGS. >> Risley: [READING SCREENS] >> Mayor Guajardo: OKAY. GREAT. SO THAT PUTS US AT SECTION G, OUR BOARD AND COMMITTEE APPOINTMENTS. REBECCA? >> City Secretary: MAYOR, BEFORE WE BEGIN, CAN WE ACT FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON OUR BOARD APPOINTMENTS? >> Mayor Guajardo: YES, I'M SORRY, IS THERE ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT ON NUMBER EIGHT, THE CORPUS CHRISTI CONVENTION AND VISITORS BUREAU, CORPUS CHRISTI REGIONAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION, THE PORT OF CORPUS CHRISTI AUTHORITY OR THE REINVESTMENT ZONE TO NUMBER SIX. THERE BEING NO ONE, I WE'LL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT. >> City Secretary: WE'LL START WITH THE FIRST BOARD, THERE ARE SIX VACANCIES REPRESENTING THE FOLLOWING CATEGORIES, ONE COMMUNITY AT LARGE, TWO ATTRACTION INDUSTRY, TWO HOTEL INDUSTRY AND ONE LODGING AT LARGE. SO THE CCVB MAKES RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL THROUGH ITS NOMINATIONS COMMITTEE, EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE AND BOARD. THE CCVB ALWAYS NOMINATES ONE MORE INDIVIDUAL AS AN ALTERNATE PER CATEGORY THAN THE NUMBER OF POSITIONS AVAILABLE FOR THE COUNCIL'S CONSIDERATION. SO THE CCVB IS MAKING THE FOLLOWING RECOMMENDATIONS FOR REAPPOINTMENTS AND THEY ARE JENNIFER LIDA, COMMUNITY AT LARGE, STEVE BANTA, ATTRACTION FRI, ZACH, ATTRACTION INJURY, DEVIN, HOTEL INDUSTRY, CHRIS OF, HOTEL INJURY AND AMY, WHO'S LODGING AT LARGE INDUSTRY. [SIMULTANEOUS SPEAKING]. >> Mayor Guajardo: WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO REAPPOINT. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. (AYES.) >> Mayor Guajardo: ANY OPPOSED, SAY NO. THE OCEAN CARRIES. >> City Secretary: NEXT WE HAVE THE CORPUS CHRISTI REGIONAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION. THERE'S ONE VACANCY OPEN. >> [OFF MIC] >> Mayor Guajardo: WE HAVE CHAD McGILL. ALEX GARCIA. SCOTT CORLISS. OKAY. WE'LL CLOSE NOMINATIONS. AND THIS IS FOR ONE OPENING, CORRECT. >> City Secretary: YES, MA'AM. >> Mayor Guajardo: OKAY. AND I WILL START WITH COUNCILWOMAN VAUGHN? >>] MAKING NOMINATIONS [.MRS. P. >> Paxson: McGILL. >> Scott: CORLISS. >> Cantu: McGILL. >> City Secretary: ALL RIGHT. MR. McGILL IS APPOINTED. NEXT WE HAVE THE PORT OF CORPUS CHRISTI AUTHORITY. THERE IS ONE VACANCY OPEN. >> [OFF MIC] >> Mayor Guajardo: WE'RE OPENING NOMINATIONS. GO AHEAD. >> [OFF MIC] DR. KLEIN. >> Barrera: MICHAEL HUNTER. >> Mayor Guajardo: MICHAEL HUNTER. I'M GOING TO NOMINATE DIANE LARU. ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS? OKAY. WE'LL CLOSE NOMINATIONS. AND I WILL START WITH COUNCILMAN CANTU? >> Cantu: HUNTER. >> Scott: HUNTER. >> Paxson: HUNTER. DID YOU HEAR WHAT SHE SAID NORMA. CAN YOU SAY IT AGAIN, PLEASE? >> Paxson: HUNTER. >> City Secretary: THANK YOU. >> Barrera: HUNTER. >> Mayor Guajardo: LARU. >> Barrera: HUNTER. >> Campos: DR. KLEIN. >> Hernandez: HUNTER. >> Vaughn: [OFF MIC] >> City Secretary: ALL RIGHT. MR. HUNTER'S APPOINTED. LAST W WE HAVE THE REINVESTMENT ZONE NUMBER SIX, BARISI VILLAGE BOARD, THERE'S ONE VACANCY AND STAFF RECOMMENDS THE APPOINTMENT OF INTERIM ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER DAN McGINN. >> Campos: MOVE TO APPROVE. >> Barrera: SECOND. >> Mayor Guajardo: OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. (AYES.)MRS. PAXS ON? >> Paxson: AYE. >> City Secretary: THANK YOU. SO THEN ADDITIONALLY THE COUNCIL APPOINTS THE MEMBER OF THE BOARD TO S SERVE AS CHAIR FOR A ONE-YEAR TERM. THE CURRENT CHAIR IS COUNCILMEMBER KAYLYNN PAXSON. AND THAT'S FOR CHAIR. JUST LIKE WE DO WITH THE OTHER TIRZ BOARDS. >> Mayor Guajardo: MOVE TO APPROVE. >> SECOND. >> Mayor Guajardo: ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. (AYES.) >> Mayor Guajardo: ANY OPPOSED, SAY NO. THE MOTION CARRIES. AT THIS TIME WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO ITEM 21 UP THE CHAIN HERE. SO ITEM 31 IS A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH CITIES OF ALICE, BEEVILLE AND MATHIS REGARDING SHARING OF RESOURCES TO IMPROVE WATER AND WASTEWATER SERVICES. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR. JUST A COUPLE OF QUICK COMMENTS AND AS YOU STATED EARLIER, WE HAVE REPRESENTATIVES OF ALICE AND MATHIS AND BEEVILLE. ACTUALLY, THE REPRESENTATIVES OF MATHIS HAD TO DEPART FOR A MEETING. BUT ONE THING I WANT TO SAY IS WE CONTINUE TO WORK WITH OUR PARTNERS THROUGHOUT THE REGION. WE'VE COLLABORATED FOR A LONG TIME WITH ALICE, MATHIS AND BEEVILLE. RECENTLY DURING ONE OF OUR WATER MEETINGS, WE TALKED ABOUT FORMALIZING THE COLLABORATIVE AGREEMENT SO THAT WE COULD SHARE RESOURCES. WE TALK ABOUT THAT, WE AT CCW, WE'RE BLESSED WITH A STRONG ENGINEERING TEAM, WE'RE BLESSED WITH A STRONG OPERATIONS TEAM, AND WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO SHARE THOSE RESOURCES WITH THESE COMMUNITIES AS NEEDED. AND IT GOES BOTH WAYS. BOTH ALICE, MATHIS AND BEEVILLE CAN SHARE RESOURCES WITH US AS WELL. WE FEEL THAT IT'S A STRONG COMMITMENT WHEN WE ALL WORK TOGETHER AND IT CERTAINLY MAKES LIFE A LOT EASIER WHEN WE'RE TRYING TO SOLVE THESE DIFFICULT PROBLEMS TOGETHER. MAYOR, WITH YOUR PERMISSION, I BELIEVE MICHAEL ESPARZA WOULD LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING, IF YOU DON'T MIND. ABSOLUTEL Y. >> MAYOR AND COUNCIL, GOOD MORNING, FOR THE RECORD MY NAME IS MICHAEL ESPARZA, CITY MANAGER FOR THE CITY OF ALICE, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE WITH MY COLLEAGUES FROM BEEVILLE AND MATHIS. ESPECIALLY I WANT TO RECOGNIZE THE CITY MANAGER, PETER ZANONI AND CORPUS CHRISTI WATER COO NICK WINKELMANN FOR THE STEADY, OPEN LINE OF COMMUNICATION AND THE SPIRIT OF PARTNERSHIP THEY'VE SHOWN US THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS. IN ALICE, WE'VE BEEN VERY INTENTIONAL ABOUT DOING OUR PART FOR THE REGIONAL SYSTEM. FOR THE LAST SIX MONTHS WE'VE BEEN OPERATING ON DESALINATETIVE BRACKISH WATER AND RIGHT ABOUT TODAY HALF OF OUR WATER COMES FROM THE GROUND SO NOW WE'RE DRAWING -- WE'VE LESSENED OUR DRAW FROM LAKE CORPUS CHRISTI BY HALF AS WELL. SO BEFORE THIS PROJECT, GETTING THIS PROJECT ONLINE, WE'VE BEEN -- OUR GOAL IS TO BE AS SELF-SUFFICIENT AS POSSIBLE, AND WE STILL WANT TO BE A RELIABLE, REGIONAL PARTNER TO CORPUS CHRISTI. SO THIS INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT, IT'S A VEHICLE THAT LETS US FORMALIZE AND BUILD ON THAT WORK. SO IF YOU LOOK AT SECTION 1, IT LAYS OUT A CLEAR PURPOSE, WHICH IS TO DEVELOP A PROCESS FOR SHARING RESOURCES, SO WE CAN IMPROVE WATER AND WEISS WASTEWATER SERVICES IN ALL OF OUR COMMUNITY. LIKE NICK SAID, SMALLER CITIES LIKE ALICE, BEEVILLE AND MATHIS, WE DO NOT HAVE THE ENGINEERING DEPTH THAT CORPUS CHRISTI HAS, AND SECTION 2 IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT ALLOWS YOUR TEAMS TO ASSIST PARTICIPATING CITIES WITH WELL REVIEWS, WITH SUPPLY PLANNING. AND OTHER WATER AND WASTEWATER PROJECT. THAT EXPERTISE CAN REALLY MAKE A DIFFERENCE FOR CITIES LIKE US. THOSE ARE EXACTLY THE KIND EFFORTS THAT -- AND INVESTMENTS THAT WE'VE MADE TO STAND ON OUR OWN FEET IN ALICE AND MOVE US IN A DIRECTION OF A MORE CONNECTED AND RESILIENT REGIONAL WATER APPROACH. BUT JUST AS IMPORTANT TO THAT, THIS IS NOT WRITTEN AS A ONE-WAY STREET. IN SECTION 2, THE CITY AGREES TO SHARE STAFF AND TECHNICAL EXPERTISE DURING WATER OR WASTEWATER EMERGENCIES AND TO MAKE OUR STAFFS AVAILABLE TO EACH OTHER WITH ISSUES IN OUR PARTNER CITIES. AND FROM MY SEAT, THAT ABSOLUTELY INCLUDES ME PERSONALLY IN MY ROLE AS CITY MANAGER, BRINGING OUR SIX MONTHS OF DESALINATION AND GROUNDWATER OPERATING EXPERIENCE TO THE TABLE. SO WORKING DIRECTLY WITH PETER AND NICK AND THEIR TEAMS, WHEN THERE'S AN OPERATIONAL NEED AND WE CAN BE OF AN ASSISTANT TO HIM MOCH A PROJECT FORWARD, WE'LL BE THERE FOR YOU GUYS AS WELL. AND, OF COURSE, SECTION 3 GIVES CITY MANAGER THE AUTHORITIES TO DEVELOP ADDITIONAL PROJECTS BUT UNDER THIS FRAMEWORK BE ASSURED THAT ANYTHING THAT INVOLVES FUNDING WILL COME BACK TO EACH PERSPECTIVE CITY COUNCIL. WE HAVE BUILT OUR SYSTEM TO BE MORE SELF-SUFFICIENT AND TO SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCE OUR DRAW ON LAKE CORPUS CHRISTI. WE'RE PLANNING BY THE END OF THE FIRST QUARTER OF 2026 TO REDUCE OUR USAGE BY ROUGHLY 90%, WHICH WILL FURTHER THEN LESSEN THE OVERALL WATER DEMAND THAT ALICE PLACES ON CORPUS CHRISTI'S REGIONAL SYSTEM. THIS INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT GIVES US THE STRUCTURE TO KEEP DOING THAT, SHARING EXPERIENCE COORDINATING PROJECTS AND LOOKING AT WATER THE WAY WATER REALLY WORKS WHICH IS REGIONALLY. ON BEHALF OF THE CITY OF ALICE I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT AND LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING THIS PARTNERSHIP WITH CORPUS CHRISTI, BEEVILLE AND MATHIS. THANK YOU. >> Mayor Guajardo: THANK YOU, MR. ESPARZA. WE APPRECIATE IT. AND WE APPRECIATE EVERYBODY THAT'S HERE, YOUR COLLEAGUES AND THIS PARTNERSHIP, SO I'M REALLY GRATEFUL THAT OUR STAFF WORKED WELL AND YOU ALL STEPPED FORWARD, TOO, BECAUSE AS EVERYONE KNOWS, AND I KNOW IT'S A LITTLE CLICHÉ, BUT, YOU KNOW, WORKING TOGETHER, WE'RE STRONGER. >> YES, MA'AM. >> Mayor Guajardo: SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS TODAY. COUNCILWOMAN VAUGHN? >> Vaughn: I THINK THIS IS A WONDERFUL IDEA THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE YEARS AGO. WE ARE NEIGHBORS AND WE SHOULD BE HELPING EACH OTHER. SO THANK YOU. I DON'T KNOW WHO CAME UP WITH THE IDEA, BUT I LOVE IT. THANKS. COUNCILMA N BARRERA? >> Barrera: THANK YOU, MAYOR. YOU KNOW, JUST THE SAME SENTIMENT, YOU KNOW, WE ALL HAVE THE SAME PROBLEM AND I THINK IT'S -- WHOEVER CAME UP WITH THE IDEA. BUT I ALSO WANT TO RECOGNIZE THE MAYOR PRO TEM FROM BEEVILLE, TEXAS, MAYOR PRO TEM, BENNY PUENTE [INDISCERNIBLE] AS HE LIKES TO BE KNOWN. BENNY'S TAKEN -- HE'S TAKEN A LOT OF INITIATIVE TO BE ABLE TO HELP SOLVE WATER PROBLEMS FOR THE REGION. HE'S VERY MUCH INVOLVED IN TML AS WELL, AND THE REGION -- WHAT'S THE TITLE THAT YOU HOLD? >> REGION 11 PRESIDENT. >> Barrera: SO, YOU KNOW, FROM THE SMALLER COMMUNITIES TO BE ABLE TO SAY, HEY, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE SOME LEADERSHIP, SO THAT WAY THE STATE OF TEXAS UNDERSTAND, THAT'S WHERE THE -- THAT'S WHERE THE RUBBER MEETS THE ROAD. I ALSO WANT TO COMMENT, THE NEW CITY MANAGER, ANDY JOSLYN, THE LAST TIME I SAW HIM HE WAS WEARING A BURNT ORANGE TIE AS WELL. I THINK THAT MAY STAND FOR THE TROJANS. BUT ANYWAY, GREAT WORK TO, YOU KNOW, MATHIS, MICHAEL AND CEDRIC AND PETER, I MEAN, THIS IS A GREAT THING, NICK. YOU KNOW, THANK YOU SO MUCH. APPRECIATE YOU GUYS. COUNCILMA N HERNANDEZ? >> Hernandez: MICHAEL, I APPRECIATE YOU DOING THE PRESENTATION AND I'VE SAID THIS TO YOU PERSONALLY, BUT I THINK YOU GUYS IN ALICE ARE YOU KNOW, WERE GENUSES TO DO THE BRACKISH WATER DESALINATION FIRST. YOU HAD FORESIGHT FIVE YEARS IN ADVANCE AND YOU GUYS DON'T GET ENOUGH CREDIT FOR THE WORK THAT YOU'VE DONE, AND SO YOU'VE ALLOWED US TO KEEP SOME OF OUR WATER BACK FROM LATE CORPUS CHRISTI. SO I APPRECIATE YOU AND THE EFFORTS YOU AND YOUR CITY COUNCIL HAVE DONE IN ALICE, AND I WANT TO IDENTIFY THAT PUBLICLY. YOU GUYS LOOK LIKE THE SMARTEST PEOPLE IN THE M ROO RIGHT NOW. AND I DO APPRECIATE YOU OFFERING THE -- WORKING WITH THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI AS WELL AS THE OTHER CITIES TO KIND OF HELP US SOLVE THIS PROBLEM THAT WE'RE FACING. AND YOUR EXPERTISE AND FORESIGHT ARE INVALUABLE WITH REGARDS TO THAT, SO THANK YOU. >> WELL, AND OUR CITY COUNCIL AND OUR MAYOR ARE VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THIS AGREEMENT, OBVIOUSLY, BECAUSE THEY APPROVED IT, BUT LOOKING AT US, WE'RE ALMOST AT THE TAIL END OF OUR PROJECT, AROUND WHEN R WHAT BETALKED ABOUT IS -- AND WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT, WE'RE NOT JUST ISOLATED BECAUSE THERE'S A LINE OF CARS DRIVING TO CORPUS CHRISTI FOR WORK EVERY DAY, SO IF WE CAN HELP HOWEVER WE CAN, WE'LL BE GLAD TO DO IT. >> Mayor Guajardo: GREAT. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN ROY? >> Roy: THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. I -- YOU KNOW, I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT THIS IS A TIME WE NEED ALL HANDS ON DECK. AND I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT EVERYBODY'S COMING TOGETHER AS A REGION. AND -- BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, THIS ISSUE, IT'S A COMPLEXISH THANK YOU. AND I THINK THAT THE MORE BRAIN POWER THAT YOU HAVE, THE BETTER IT'S GOING TO BE. SO, AGAIN, I WANT TO THANK YOU AND LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH EVERYONE. THANK YOU. COUNCILWO MAN CAMPOS? >> Campos: THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH, MAYOR. YES, I ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I EXTEND MY AGREEMENT THAT THIS SHOULD HAVE PROBABLY HAVE BEEN DONE YEARS AGO, BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO GO THERE, RIGHT? WE'RE HERE NOW, AND I THINK THIS IS THE BEST APPROACH TO OUR WATER, YOU KNOW, ISSUES, IS THAT WE ALL NEED TO BE WORKING TOGETHER. AND JUST OUT OF CURIOSITY, WHAT -- WHAT -- HOW MUCH DE -- HOW MUCH WATER DO YOU GET FROM YOUR DESALINATION PLANT? >> RIGHT NOW WE'RE ABOUT -- WE'RE GETTING ABOUT A MILLION AND A HALF GALLONS A DAY. WE'RE SCHEDULED TO BE FULL FLEDGE AT 3 MILLION-GALLONS A DAY AT THE END OF THE FIRST QUARTER OF 2026. >> Campos: OKAY. AND WITH THE 3 MILLION-GALLONS A DAY, THAT WILL FULFILL THE 90%, IS THAT WHAT YOU SAID? >> WELL, WE ALWAYS WANT TO DO A LITTLE BIT OF OUR SURFACE WATER TO KEEP OUR PLANT ACTIVE. IT DOESN'T ALWAYS HAVE TO COME FROM LAKE CORPUS CHRISTI, BECAUSE WE HAVE A TERMINAL RESERVOIR IN LAKE FINLEY AS WELL. SO WHEN WE FILL THAT, THAT GIVES US AT ANY GIVEN TIME 45 DAYS OF WATER, SO, YOU KNOW, KIND OF LIKE HOW YOU GUYS, CHOKE CANYON TO LAKE CORPUS CHRISTI, WE'RE LAKE CORPUS CHRISTI TO LAKE FINLEY, SO WE HAVE THAT BUFFER AS WELL, SO WE HAVE MULTIPLE SOURCES. BUT ONCE WE GET FULL FLEDGED ON DESALINATION, OUR AVERAGE USAGE CAN BE ABOUT 3 MILLION-GALLONS TO 3.2 SOMETIMES. AND SO LAKE CORPUS CHRISTI -- LAKE FINLEY WILL BE ABLE TO GET THAT GOING. SO WE'RE STILL ESTIMATING -- AND WE BUDGET TO PULL FROM WATER AND PAY FOR THAT WATER TO YOU GUYS, BUT WE'RE HOPING WE WON'T NEED THAT. SO THE 90% IS -- YOU KNOW, WE MAY HAVE 10% OF THE WATER THAT WE'LL BE DRAWING. AND THE WAY WE'RE LOOKING AT IT ALSO FROM THE STANDPOINT OF THE DRAW FROM LAKE CORPUS CHRISTI, MATHIS AND BEEVILLE AND ALICE, WE EESH THE THREE IN THE SAME BOAT BUYING THAT RAW WATER FROM YOU GUYS, SO THAT IS A WATER DEMAND THAT CORPUS CHRISTI HAS AS A WHOLE, AND ONCE BEEVILLE GETS THEIR PROJECT GOING AND WE DO, THAT HELPS THE WHOLE REGION BECAUSE THERE WILL BE ADDITIONAL WATER LEFT THERE. >> Campos: YEAH. >> AND BEEVILLE AND ALICE ARE A LITTLE ABOUT THE SAME, 3 MILLION-GALLONS A DAY, BUT REMEMBER WHEN WE PULL THAT FROM LAKE CORPUS CHRISTI, THERE'S EVAPORATION, WE MAY BE PULLING 6 MILLION-GALLON AS DAY AT ANY GIVEN TIME. TO SET IN LAKE FINLEY, OF COURSE IT EVAPORATES, WE HAVE TO PAY FOR THAT AS WELL. ANYTHING THAT WE DO IS DEFINITELY GOING TO HELP. BUT, YES, WE'LL BE -- WE PRODUCE 3 MILLION-GALLONS A DAY. AND WE DO HAVE A TAKE OR PAY WITH THE COMPANY THAT WE'RE USING, SEVEN SEAS, AND WE'RE AT 2.7 MILLION-GALLONS A DAY ON OUR TAKE OR PAY, AND THAT AT ANY GIVEN TIME, WE'LL BE CLOSER TO THE THREE ANY GAVEEN DAY. >> Campos: I HAVEN'T KEPT UP WITH BEEVILLE, WHAT -- I DON'T KNOW IF -- YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT THEY WERE ALSO GOING THROUGH A DROUGHT, BUT, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT NOW. BUT IT'S LIKE COUNCILMAN HERNANDEZ SAID, YOU KNOW, Y'ALL HAVE BEEN FORWARD THINKERS AND I JUST WANTED TO MAKE -- ASSURE THE PEOPLE THAT WE ARE LOOKING OUT FOR THE WHOLE REGION. AND I'M GLAD THAT Y'ALL ARE DOING YOUR PART. SO I APPRECIATE THAT. >> YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU. >> Mayor Guajardo: THANK YOU, MR. ESPARZA. GENTLEMAN, WOULD Y'ALL LIKE TO -- >> THANK YOU, MAYOR. CITY COUNCIL, ANDY JOSLYN, CITY MANAGER, CITY OF BEEVILLE, ON BEHALF OF MAYOR MICHAEL WILLOW AND BENNY P WERKEN TERK RK, WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR PARTNERSHIP. DECEMBER 9TH, 2025, OUR CITY COUNCIL TOOK ACTION TO APPROVE THIS INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT BECAUSE WE KNOW HOW IMPORTANT IT S I'M ORIGINALLY FROM ALICE AND RESIDED IN THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS, SO I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE REGION AND THE NEEDS THAT WE MAY HAVE. SO AS FAR AS SPECIFICS, ABOUT WHAT THE CITY OF BEEVILLE'S DOING, I KNOW MY MAYOR PRO TEM HAS BEEN INVOLVED A LOT LONGER THAN I HAVE, SO I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO HIM. >> THANK YOU, ANDY. THANK YOU, CITY COUNCIL, MAYOR, THANK Y'ALL SO MUCH FOR THIS, MR. PETER ZANONI, THANK YOU FOR ORGANIZING THESE MEETINGS. WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT. AND THE ENGINEERING IS WHAT WE'RE REALLY GOING TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF, SECOND, THIRD LOOKS, ADVISE FROM YOUR STAFF FROM CC WATER. OUR PROJECT, COUNCILWOMAN CAMPOS, WE'RE DOING A DESALINATION PROJECT AS WELL. WE HAVE TWO WELLS THAT SHOULD BE READY FOR PUMPING INTO OUR DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM AROUND FEBRUARY/MARCH TIME FRAME, AND WE'RE WORKING WITH TCEQ AND TWDB AND GETTING THEIR ADVICE AND GUIDE ANSWER, ALSO WITH GARVER ENGINEERING THAT'S IN CHARGE OF OUR PRO PROJECT, BUT WE HAVE PLANS OF PUTTING THOSE ONLINE AND GETTING 2 MILLION-GALLONS A DAY FROM THOSE EXISTING WELLS, AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO DRILL A BRAND-NEW WELL THAT WOULD GIVE US AN ADDITIONAL MILLION. AND WE HAVE A MILLION COMING FROM FOUR OTHER WELLS OUT AT OUR CHASEFIELD PLANT THAT WE DID A FEW YEARS BACK TO DIVERSIFY OUR SYSTEM. SAME AS ALICE, YOU KNOW, EVENTUALLY, WE WANT TO STOP PULLING AS MUCH WATER FROM THE LAKE, YOU KNOW, TO HELP CORPUS AND OTHER COMMUNITIES WITH THEIR SURFACE WATER NEEDS. BUT, AGAIN, WE WILL BE PULLING STILL SOME WATER. WE DO NEED THAT SOURCE FOR OUR DIVERSIFICATION PLAN, BUT THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT TO OUR COMMUNITY, THIS PARTNERSHIP. I'VE ALWAYS THOUGHT OF CORPUS AS OUR BIG BROTHER, AND Y'ALL ARE MY COLLEAGUES, EACH ONE OF YOU. WE WORK TOGETHER ON THE TML BOARDS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, BUT THIS IS JUST A LEVEL OF COMFORTABILITY THAT WE HAVE IN OUR COMMUNITY NOW THAT WE KNOW CORPUS IS BASICALLY PUTTING US UNDER YOUR WING AND -- AS WELL AS ALICE AND MATHIS. YOU KNOW, WE'RE JUST ONE BIG TEAM. I SAID THIS EARLIER, BUT WHEN CORPUS IS SUCCESSFUL AND WHEN CORPUS DOES WELL, WE ALL DO WELL IN THE COASTAL BEND. >> Mayor Guajardo: THAT'S RIGHT. >> SO EVERYONE'S WATCHING YOU, EVERYONE'S PAYING ATTENTION TO WHAT YOU'RE DOING, EVERYONE'S CHEERING YOU GUYS ON. I KNOW THAT IT'S HARD TO AGREE ON THINGS SOMETIMES, BUT THAT'S -- THAT'S THE -- THAT'S WHAT'S BEAUTIFUL ABOUT OUR COUNTRY. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE OUR OWN OPINIONS, WE REP SENLT OUR OWN INDIVIDUAL CONSTITUENTS IN AREAS, AND I JUST APPLAUD YOU FOR THE WORK THAT Y'ALL'VE DONE, WHETHER I AGREE WITH YOU OR NOT. I'M A BIG FAN OF EACH OF YOU, BUT THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU'RE DOING FOR US, AND I JUST -- I CAN'T TELL YOU ENOUGH, GOD BLESS YOU, I LOVE YOU GUYS, AND I JUST WISH THE BEST FOR CORPUS BECAUSE AGAIN WHEN CORPUS DOES WELL, THE ENTIRE COASTAL BEND DOES WELL. SO THANK Y'ALL VERY MUCH. >> Mayor Guajardo: THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU FOR THOSE KIND WORDS AND FOR BEING HERE. IT MEANS A LOT THAT YOU ALL FEEL THAT WAY. IT REALLY, REALLY DOES. AND WHICH DON'T TAKE THAT LIGHTLY. THE PARTNERSHIP IS VERY PRECIOUS, AND OBVIOUSLY CRITICAL, SO WE'RE GLAD THAT WE CAN BE HERE AND DO AS MUCH AS WE CAN TOGETHER. COUNCILMAN ROY? >> Roy: SIR, THE ONLY THING I HAD TO SAY WAS AIRBORNE, ALL THE WAY. >> AIRBORNE. COUNCILWO MAN CAMPOS? >> Campos: AND I JUST WANTED TO, I GUESS, THROW OUT A SHOUTOUT TO TML. OBVIOUSLY I DON'T GET AROUND AS MUCH AS ROLAND, AS COUNCILMAN BARRERA DOES, SO I DO APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK THAT TML DOES, BUT I DIDN'T REALIZE HOW ACTIVE YOU WERE, SO, AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR BEING, LIKE YOU SAID, JUST PART OF THIS, YOU KNOW, ORGANIC THING -- NOT ORGANIC, BUT PART OF THIS REGION THAT WE ALL -- YOU KNOW, WE WORRIED ABOUT YOU GUYS, WE WORRIED ABOUT BEEVILLE AND ALICE. ALICE SEEMS TO ALREADY BE ON THEIR WAY, BUT, YES, I WAS VERY DEEPLY CONCERNED ABILITY WHAT WAS GOING ON AND I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PEOPLE KNEW THAT WE HAVE A PLAN, AND THAT YOU ALL ARE WORKING ON IT. SO, AGAIN, THANK YOU. >> Mayor Guajardo: OKAY. I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND OPEN PUBLIC COMMENT. IS THERE ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE COMMENT ON ITEM NUMBER 31? OKAY. THERE BEING NO ONE, WE'LL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT AND I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPARAGRAPH. OKAY. APPROVE. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.MRS. PAXS ON? [OFF MIC] MRS. PAXS ON, ARE YOU THERE? THERE YOU ARE. WOULD YOU CARE TO VOTE? >> Paxson: I'M SO SORRY. >> City Secretary: THAT'S OKAY. DID YOU -- WE DIDN'T HEAR YOU VOTE MA'AM. MRS. PAXSON. >> Mayor Guajardo: LET ME REACH OUT TO HER. >> Paxson: I'M SORRY, I'M HAVING SOME CONNECTION ISSUES. >> City Secretary: OKAY. SHE SAID AYE. AND MR. ROY -- I'M SORRY, WE HAD A LITTLE TECHNICAL GLITCH. AND MRS. CAMPOS ALSO. OKAY. THERE WE GO. >> Mayor Guajardo: OKAY. THE MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU, REBECCA. WE'RE GOING TO PASS THE CONSENT AGENDA AND THEN WE'LL BREAK FOR LUNCH. DOES ANY COUNCILMEMBER HAVE ANY REQUESTS TO PULL ITEMS 9 THROUGH 28? >> 27. >> 27 AND 28. >> Mayor Guajardo: 27, 28, 23. OKAY. ANY REQUESTS FROM THE PUBLIC -- TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT ON ANY ITEMS 9 THROUGH 28, PLEASE COME FORWARD. >> [OFF MIC] >> Mayor Guajardo: TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT? NO? OKAY. YOU -- OKAY. COME ON UP. >> I'M GOING TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM THAT IS THE AMERICAN GENERATOR SERVICES. MARY ELENA GARZA, DISTRICT 1. SO I LOVE THAT WE ARE BEING PROACTIVE AND CONSIDERING THIS CONTRACT FOR THE MAINTENANCE OF THE GENERATORS THAT WE STILL DON'T HAVE. WE DON'T HAVE THAT GENERATOR AT LA RETAMA STILL. I DON'T THINK WE HAVE THAT GENERATOR AT THE HILLIARD CENTER YET. I KNOW WE DON'T HAVE ANY KIND OF TIMELINE ON THE GENERATOR AT BEN GARZA EITHER. SO THIS IS GREAT THAT WE START DISCUSSING THIS. BUT I HAVE QUESTIONS. SOME OF THE QUESTIONS, RHETORICAL QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE ARE: WHO IS THE MANUFACTURER FOR THE GENERATOR? I HAVE ASKED CITY STAFF. I HAVE ASKED PEOPLE IN LEADERSHIP AND I GET CRICKETS. HOW HARD IS THAT? I WANT TO KNOW WHO THE MANUFACTURER FOR THIS GENERATOR IS. THEY'RE EXPENSIVE. THIS CONTRACT. WE ARE GOING TO HAVE MULTIPLE GENERATORS IN THE FUTURE. HOW MANY GENERATORS DOES THIS COVER? ONE? TWO? ALL OF THEM? AND THE GENERATOR THAT YOU PURCHASED AT BEN GARZA THAT YOU TOOK FROM THE HOMELESSNESS FUND THAT I TOLD YOU DON'T DO THAT AND YOU DID IT ANYWAYS, EVEN THOUGH FEMA FUNDING BECAME AVAILABLE THAT SAME DAY LIKE I TOLD YOU IT WAS GOING TO BECOME AVAILABLE. ANYWAY, THAT GENERATOR, YOU PULLED $500,000 OUT OF THAT FUND. THIS IS A MINIMUM OF $503,000 TO $1.25 MILLION FOR SERVICES. THAT'S MORE THAN THE GENERATOR TOTALLY IS . QUESTIONS NEED TO BE ASKED. DO NOT JUST PASS THIS WILLY-NILLY. QUESTIONS NEED TO BE ASKED. I ASKED SO MANY PEOPLE, WHAT'S UP WITH THE GENERATORS? HOW BIG IS IT? WHAT IS A COMMON COST OF MAINTENANCE ON THESE GENERATORS? I'M ONE OF THE PEOPLE THAT HAS BEEN CRYING FOR THESE GENERATORS. I DON'T WANT TO GET A GENERATOR THAT IS GOING TO FAIL ON US. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A REASONABLE AMOUNT SET FOR THE MAINTENANCE OF IT. WHEN IT COMES TO A LOT OF THIS STUFF, WHEN IT COMES TO THE TAXPAYER MONEY, A LOT OF THE MONEY GOES MISSING. AND THE THING IS STILL BROKEN AND I'M LIKE I THOUGHT WE HAD MONEY SET ASIDE FOR THIS. OH, WE DIDN'T SET ASIDE ENOUGH OR WE HAVE ALL THIS STUFF GOING ON. SO, QUESTIONS NEED TO BE ASKED NOW ON THIS GENERATOR. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SEVERAL OF THEM. ARE THEY ALL THE SAME SIZE? I DON'T THINK SO. I KEEP ASKING ABOUT THE LA RETAMA ONE, HAVING DOING IT FOR YEARS, AND I'VE GOTTEN ZERO ANSWERED. ASK QUESTIONS NOW. >> Mayor Guajardo: THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? >> HENRY WILLIAMS, DISTRICT 1. MAYOR AND COUNCILMEN AND WOMEN, I WOULD SIMPLY LIKE TO SAY THAT THE SPIRIT OF UNITY AND COOPERATION THAT HAS BEEN EXPRESSED TODAY HAS BEEN -- IT HAS BEEN A GREAT -- A GREAT MOVEMENT FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND FOR OUR AREA. YOU KNOW, OUR CITY COUNCILMAN FROM ALICE AND OUR CITY REPRESENTATIVES FROM BEEVILLE, COMING TOGETHER TO SPEAK THAT AS WE A COMMUNITY AND AN AREA MUST COME TOGETHER IN UNITY AND ONENESS TO SOLVE THE PROBLEMS THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH. AND AS A MAN OF PRAYER, INCLUDING THAT GOD WOULD MOVE IN THE AREA OF WATER, AND HE WILL MOVE IN THE AREA OF WATER. BUT THE SPIRIT OF COOPERATION AND UNITY IS A GREAT THING FOR OUR AREA AND FOR OUR LOCAL CITIES. THANK YOU. >> Mayor Guajardo: THANK YOU, SIR. ANYONE ELSE? OKAY. WE'LL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT. LET'S VOTE ON ITEM 17. >> City Secretary: DO YOU WANT TO VOTE ON CONSENT FIRST, EXCLUDING THOSE ITEMS? ITHERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND. >> Mayor Guajardo: RIGHT. BUT HE'S PULLING IT. WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? GO AHEAD. PLEASE SUBMIT YOUR VOTE. >> City Secretary: MS. PAXSON? >> Paxson: AYE. >> City Secretary: CAN WE SEE HER PLEASE? >> Paxson: AYE. >> City Secretary: THANK YOU. >> Mayor Guajardo: OKAY. THE MOTION CARRIES. SO ITEM NO. 17 IS THE ONE-YEAR SERVICE AGREEMENT WITH THE AMERICAN GENERATOR SERVICES. PETER, WOULD YOU LIKE TO GO TO THE NEXT -- ARE YOU READY FOR THIS ONE? >> Zanoni: YEAH, WE'RE READY. JUAN'S HERE. OUR MANAGEMENT DIRECTOR. >> Mayor Guajardo: GO AHEAD. >> Zanoni: JUAN IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. >> JUAN RIVERA, INTERIM DIRECTOR OF ASSET MANAGEMENT. >> Mayor Guajardo: WHO IS THE MANUFACTURER? >> SO THERE'S MULTIPLE MANUFACTURERS, MA'AM, THAT WE HAVE ON OUR BOOKS. CUMMINGS BEING ONE OF THE GENERAL ONES HERE. BUT FOR THIS CONTRACT IS A MAINTENANCE CONTRACT ON 25 OF OUR 37 GENERATORS AND THOSE GENERATORS RANGE FROM 18 KILOWATTS TO 500 KILOWATTS. >> Mayor Guajardo: WHO WAS IT? >> IT'S MULTIPLE. >> Mayor Guajardo: SO WE DON'T KNOW WHICH ONE. WHEN DO WE FIND OUT WHO IT IS? >> THIS IS NOT THE PURCHASE A GENERATOR, MA'AM, THIS IS A MAINTENANCE CONTRACT. THIS IS TO PROVIDE MAINTENANCE FOR ALL OUR GENERATORS. >> Mayor Guajardo: I SEE. SO WHEN WE CALL FOR MAINTENANCE -- >> Zanoni: WE HAVE 37 GENERATORS THROUGHOUT THE CITY. INCLUDING HERE AT CITY HALL. AND SO THIS IS A MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT. IF WE DON'T USE IT, WE DON'T PAY. >> YES, MA'AM. THAT IS CORRECT. SO IN THE PAST, WE'VE HAD THIS SAME CONTRACT FROM FISCAL YEAR 2020 TO FISCAL YEAR 2023. THAT CONTRACT WAS $470,000 FOR THAT CONTRACT. WE ACTUALLY ONLY SPENT $189,000 THROUGHOUT THOSE THREE YEARS ON THAT CONTRACT. THE MOST RECENT CONTRACT, WHICH WAS 2023 TO 2025, THAT CONTRACT WAS FOR $467,000. WE ONLY SPENT $64,000 ON THAT CONTRACT. IT'S ONLY FOR ANNUAL PREVENTIVE MAINTENANCE AND REPAIRS IF THEY ARE NEEDED. >> Mayor Guajardo: I THINK SOME OF THE QUESTIONS WERE SPECIFICALLY MORE FOR THE LA RETAMA GENERATOR. >> Zanoni: I'LL GET WITH MARY ELENA. I'M NOT SURE WHAT DEPARTMENTS WORK WITH HER BUT WE KNOW THE REASON IT'S IMPORTANT TO MS. GARZA IS THE LIBRARY IS A WARMING CENTER. AND THEN THE ONE AT BEN GARZA, THE SAME THING. THAT WOULD BE OUR NEW REFUGE, IF THERE'S A PROLONGED COLD EVENT WHERE WE NEED NUMEROUS DAYS OF 24 HOURS OF A SHELTER. THAT BECOMES THAT. SO BOTH, WE'LL GET THE STATUS FOR THE COUNCIL AND THE COMMUNITY. I DON'T KNOW IF JUAN HAS THEM BUT THEY ARE BOTH DUE TO BE IN SOON. >> ABSOLUTELY. I'LL SIT DOWN WITH MS. GARZA. >> Zanoni: INCLUDE THE BRAND NAME. >> Mayor Guajardo: COUNCILMAN HERNANDEZ. >> Hernandez: SO THIS AGREEMENT IS FOR EXISTING GENERATORS, NOT THE NEW GENERATORS. >> THAT'S CORRECT, YES, SIR. >> Hernandez: WHEN THOSE GENERATORS COME ONLINE, YOU'LL MAKE AN ADDENDUM TO THIS PREVENTIVE MAINTENANCE? >> YES, SIR. >> Hernandez: THE OTHER SIDE OF THIS IS THIS IS FOR PREVENTIVE MAINTENANCE AND REPAIRS. SO BOTH PREVENT AND REACTIVE, CORRECT? >> YES. >> Hernandez: HOW MUCH OF THIS CONTRACT IS USED FOR PREVENTIVE MAINTENANCE? >> SO WE HAVE A SPECIFIC NUMBER AND WHEN THAT INDIVIDUAL GETS THE CALL THEY COME IN AND THEY CHARGE US. THERE'S NOT A SPECIFIC SET AMOUNT FOR THE CONTRACT THROUGHOUT EVERY YEAR. THEY HAVE $500,000 ON THE CONTRACT. FOR THIS YEAR IS SUPPOSED TO BE $503,000 WITH TWO ONE-YEAR OPTIONS FOR THEM TO COME. BUT WHEN THEY DO COME, THEY CHARGE US. THEY END US THE INVOICE FOR THE PREVENTIVE MAINTENANCE. >> Hernandez: OKAY. SO LET ME TAKE A STEP BACK HERE. WITH PREVENTIVE MAINTENANCE, YOU HAVE ANNUAL MAINTENANCE, YOU HAVE QUARTERLY WHATEVER ASSOCIATED WITH IT. I'M ASSUMING THEY'RE NOT DOING ALL THE PREVENTIVE MAINTENANCE, JUST THE MAJOR PREVENTIVE MAINTENANCE. >> YES. THE PREVENTIVE MAINTENANCE THAT'S ON THIS CONTRACT ARE FOR 350 KW ALL THE WAY TO 500. BECAUSE THAT ACTUALLY EXCEEDS OUR TECHNICIAN'S EXPERTISE. SO THE PREVENTIVE MAINTENANCE IS ONLY FOR 350 KILOWATTS ALL THE WAY TO 500. >> Hernandez: ALL THIS IS BEING DOCUMENTED IN MAXIMO? >> YES, SIR. EVERYTHING BELOW 350 KILOWATTS IS MAINTAINED INTERNAL BY THE CITY STAFF. PREVENTIVE MAINTENANCE. WHICH IS ANNUAL SERVICES ON THE GENERATORS. >> Hernandez: I'M HUGE ON PREVENTIVE MAINTENANCE. IN CASE YOU HADN'T HEARD. JUST IN CASE. >> WE'VE HEARD. >> . >> Hernandez: SO I APPRECIATE THIS CONTRACT COMING TO US, MAINTAINING WHAT WE HAVE WITH REGARDS TO THIS EQUIPMENT, ESPECIALLY -- NOW, ARE THESE FOR THE DIESEL GENERATORS ONLY DOES IT ALSO APPLY TO GAS GENERATORS? >> WE ALSO HAVE GAS GENERATORS AS PART OF OUR ASSETS, SO IT INCLUDES BOTH. BUT FOR THIS CONTRACT, 12 ARE UNDER A DIFFERENT CUMMINGS CONTRACT. THIS IS FOR THE 25 REMAINING. >> Hernandez: THESE ARE ALL DIESEL OR DIESEL AND NATURAL GAS? >> DIESEL AND NATURAL GAS. >> Hernandez: I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR EXPLAINING. >> Mayor Guajardo: COUNCILMAN CANTU. >> Cantu: HOW OLD IS THE OLDEST GENERATOR DO WE HAVE IN OUR INVENTORY? >> 1986, SIR, AND IT'S THE ONE SITTING HERE AT CITY HALL. >> Zanoni: AND IT'S BROKEN. >> AND IT'S CURRENTLY BROKEN. SO WE DID HAVE TO RENT ONE. WE HAVE A 500-KILOWATT GENERATOR THAT'S CURRENTLY RENTED AND IT'S SITTING OUT BACK. >> Cantu: THAT $503,000, WE'RE NOT GOING TO CUT THEM A CHECK? THAT'S JUST GOING TO BE IN CASE -- >> WHENEVER THEY DO THAT SERVICE. >> Cantu: UP TO $1.5 MILLION? AND THAT'S FOR PARTS AND LABOR? >> YES, SIR. >> Cantu: THE GENERATORS THAT WE JUST BOUGHT, WHAT KIND OF WARRANTIES DO WE HAVE ON THEM? >> I DON'T HAVE THE SPECIFICS ON THOSE WARRANTIES. I WOULD HAVE TO GET BACK TO YOU. >> Cantu: BUT THERE ARE WARRANTIES? >> THERE ARE WARRANTIES. >> Cantu: AT LEAST TEN YEARS? >> I DON'T KNOW SPECIFICS, SIR. >> Cantu: OKAY. THANKS. >> Zanoni: THANKS FOR BRINGING THAT UP. THE CITY HALL GENERATOR JUST BECAME INOPERABLE LAST WEEK OR SO. >> WE CAUGHT IT DURING OUR WEEKLY TURN-ON MAINTENANCE. >> Zanoni: WE'LL LET THE COUNCIL KNOW NOW. THE CITY HALL DOES HAVE TWO GENERATORS. ONE IS NEWER. >> ONE IS 2012, SIR. >> Zanoni: THAT ONE, HALF THE BUILDING IS ON ONE GENERATOR AND OTHER FUNCTIONS ARE ON ANOTHER ONE. THAT'S THE WAY THEY CONFIGURED IT HERE. WE HAD TO GET A RENTAL UNIT, JUST IN CASE. THE ONE THAT DID GO OUT OF OPERATION POWERS THE I.T. SYSTEM, SO WE NEED THAT TO MAKE SURE THAT IF THERE'S AN OUTAGE THAT OUR I.T. SYSTEMS WORK. WE'RE RENTING ONE AND DEVELOPING COST PROPOSALS AND THEY'LL BE PART OF THE BUDGET FOR NEXT YEAR. >> Mayor Guajardo: COUNCILWOMAN PAXSON HAS A COMMENT/QUESTION. >> Paxson: THANK YOU, MAYOR. IS IT POSSIBLE TO PULL THE [INDISCERNIBLE] TAB? IT'S IN OUR PACKET BUT IS IT POSSIBLE TO BRING THAT UP? >> Zanoni: JUAN, THERE'S A THING RIGHT THERE. THE CAMERA. THE EYE IN THE SKY. YES SIR. AV CONTROL, IF YOU CAN FOCUS ON THE COUNTER THERE. I THINK THEY CAN ZOOM IN, MAYBE. >> Mayor Guajardo: WHAT IS THAT DOCUMENT, PETER? >> Zanoni: THIS IS THE BID TAB THAT WE DID THAT WAS A SOLICITATION TO PICK THEIR RECOMMENDED VENDOR. THIS SHOWS THE THREE VENDORS THAT WE LOOKED AT. AMERICAN GENERATOR, FLEET SOLUTIONS, AND GEN SERVE. >> Paxson: SO IT LOOKS LIKE YOU HAVE ITEMS 1 AND 2 IS THE ON-CALL SUPPORT, IF I'M UNDERSTANDING THAT CORRECT. UP TO 401,000 HOURS PER YEAR. BELOW THAT, ITEMS 3 THROUGH 9 ARE THE OTHER SERVICES THAT WE ARE GOING TO CONTRACT INTO A REGULAR MAINTENANCE. AND IT'S SHOWING AN ANNUAL UNIT AT ONE QUANTITY PER YEAR WITH A COST ASSOCIATION. SO WE HAVE HEALTH DEPARTMENT, CITY HALL, POLICE DEPARTMENT, FROST BANK, UTILITIES, NAVIGATION PUMP STATION, AND FLEET. SO WHAT I WOULD PRESUME IS THAT THESE LOCATIONS HAVE MULTIPLE GENERATORS BECAUSE THERE'S ONLY ABOUT SIX LISTED HERE, SIX OR SEVEN. AND YOU SAID THIS WAS GOING TO COVER 20, 21 DIFFERENT GENERATORS. SO THEY WERE ABLE TO ISSUE US A UNIT COST FOR EACH OF THAT ANNUAL SERVICE. SO THEY WOULD HAVE TO KNOW THE COST PER GENERATOR. AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT THE QUESTIONS WE'RE ASKING. WHAT AMOUNT DID YOU SAY THAT WE ENDED UP PAYING LAST YEAR? >> COUNCILWOMAN, LAST YEAR, WE ULTIMATELY ENDED UP PAYING $64,000 OFF OF A CONTRACT THAT WAS WORTH $467,000. >> Paxson: OKAY. SO IF I TAKE THIS 503 AND PULL OUT OF THERE, THAT QUOTE, UNQUOTE ON-CALL MAINTENANCE ITEMS, 1 AND 2, THAT'S ABOUT 263. AND SO THAT'S INCLUSIVE OF THAT 30% PARTS. AND THE 20% ALLOWANCE FOR RENTALS, IN THE EVENT ONE IS FAILING. THAT'S ALREADY INCLUDED IN THAT 500 TOTAL? WE'RE PRESUMING NOTHING WENT DOWN LAST YEAR. WE ONLY PAID $60,000. >> SO THE REASON WHY IT WENT DOWN LAST YEAR IS BECAUSE WE HAD INTERNAL CAPABILITIES TO BE ABLE TO SERVICE THEM AND WE WERE USING PERSONNEL TO SERVICE THAT 350,000. THAT BROUGHT THE COST DOWN. FOR THIS YEAR, WE DON'T HAVE THAT CAPABILITY IN-HOUSE. FOR THIS CURRENT CONTRACT, WHICH IS $503,000, WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS PREVENTIVE MAINTENANCE ON SIX OF THE 350 TO 500-KILOWATT GENERATORS. IN ADDITION TO THAT, THERE'S -- THIS CONTRACT IS FOR A TOTAL OF 25. IN ADDITION TO THAT, IT'S FOR ON-CALL REPAIRS, IN CASE WE HAD AN EMERGENCY, LIKE WE DID THIS PAST WEEK, WITH THE CITY GENERATOR HERE. >> Paxson: SO IT'S PREVENTIVE MAINTENANCE ON SIX SO A TOTAL OF 25? >> I'M SORRY, MA'AM. I COULDN'T HEAR YOUR QUESTION. >> Paxson: SO IT'S PREVENTIVE MAINTENANCE FOR SIX UNITS BUT IT'S ON-CALL FOR 25 UNITS? >> THAT IS CORRECT, COUNCILWOMAN. >> Paxson: AND OUR TOTAL UNITS IS 37? >> 37, YES. 12 OTHERS THAT ARE CUMMINGS, WHICH ARE COVERED UNDER A DIFFERENT MAINTENANCE CONTRACT. >> Paxson: OKAY. AND THE TWO THAT WE ARE ORDERING FOR THOSE EMERGENCY SHELTERS, ARE THEY GOING UNDER THE OTHER CONTRACT OR THIS ONE? >> THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO GO UNDER AMENDED UNDER THIS SPECIFIC CONTRACT HERE. >> Paxson: SO WAS THERE NO WAY FOR US TO INCLUDE THAT ON THERE BECAUSE THEY HADN'T ARRIVED YET? >> THEY HAVEN'T ARRIVED YET. YES MA'AM. >> Paxson: BUT WE WOULD HAVE THE MODEL. >> WE HAVE THE MODEL. BUT THEY HAVEN'T ARRIVED HERE YET. >> Zanoni: THERE'S SOME WARRANTY PROTECTION AS WELL. >> AND THERE'S WARRANTY THAT'S INCLUDED WITH THE GENERATOR. BUT I WOULD HAVE TO BRING THOSE SPECIFICS ON THE WARRANTY. >> Paxson: OKAY. SO YOU'RE SAYING WE KNOW THAT OUR END OF YEAR COST IS GOING TO BE HIGHER THAN LAST YEAR BECAUSE WE NO LONGER HAVE THE RESOURCES TO DO THAT IN-HOUSE. >> THAT'S CORRECT. YES MA'AM. IF YOU LOOK AT THE PREVIOUS CONTRACT FROM 2020 TO 2023, WE NEVER ACTUALLY GET TO THE AMOUNT THAT WE BID FOR. SO THE CONTRACT FOR 2020 TO 2023, WE ONLY ACTUALLY EXPENDED $189,000 ON THAT CONTRACT THAT WAS WORTH $470,000. SO THEY DO A VERY, VERY JOB WHEN THEY COME IN AND DO THAT PREVENTIVE MAINTENANCE, WHICH REDUCES THE AMOUNT OF TIME WE HAVE TO COME IN AND CALL IN FOR A REPAIR. >> Paxson: OKAY. SO ON THE OTHER CONTRACT, DO WE HAVE THE OTHER 31 BEING ANNUALLY MAINTAINED? >> THE OTHER 31? I WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT CONTRACT, MA'AM, TO GIVE YOU SPECIFICS. I HAVEN'T LOOKED AT IT SO I COULDN'T TELL YOU FOR SURE. >> Zanoni: ALL OF THEM HAVE A LEVEL -- >> Paxson: THIS IS A VERY LOW PERCENTAGE OF OUR OVERALL ASSETS IN THIS CATEGORY TO RECEIVE A REGULAR MAINTENANCE. >> Zanoni: YOU'RE MAINTAINING THEM IN-HOUSE. ALL OF OUR GENERATORS HAVE AN ANNUAL MAINTENANCE PROGRAM. >> YES, SIR. SO ALL OF OUR GENERATORS HAVE AN ANNUAL MAINTENANCE, MA'AM, AND THE OTHER 12 THAT ARE COVERED ARE FOR REPAIRS ONLY BECAUSE THE ANNUAL PREVENTIVE MAINTENANCE ON THE OTHER 12 THAT YOU MENTIONED EARLIER ARE ACTUALLY CONDUCTED IN-HOUSE. SO WE HAVE IN-HOUSE MAINTENANCE THAT CONDUCTS GENERAL MAINTENANCE ANNUALLY ON THOSE GENERATORS THAT ARE UNDER 350 KILOWATTS. ANYTHING ABOVE THAT ACTUALLY EXCEEDS OUR CAPABILITIES. THERE'S STRICT STANDARDS THAT ARE ENFORCED BY THE NATIONAL FIRE PREVENTION ASSOCIATION, 110 STANDARDS. AND WE DON'T HAVE THE CAPABILITY TO DO ANYTHING HIGHER THAN THAT. BUT THE OTHER ONES ARE ACTUALLY MAINTAINED IN-HOUSE. >> Paxson: AND SO WHEN YOU SAID WE NO LONGER HAVE THE CAPABILITY TO DO THAT IN-HOUSE, IT'S BECAUSE OF THE TYPE OF GENERATOR? >> YES, MA'AM. >> Paxson: WE ARE STILL DOING IN-HOUSE MAINTENANCE. >> FOR ANY GENERATOR UNDER 350 KILOWATTS WE DO IN-HOUSE, PREVENTIVE MAINTENANCE ANNUALLY. ON A WEEKLY BASIS EVERY GENERATOR IS TURNED ON AND EXERCISED AND THEN WE HAVE QUARTERLY INSPECTIONS AND MAINTENANCE ON EACH GENERATOR. >> Paxson: THANK YOU FOR YOUR INFORMATION. >> Mayor Guajardo: COUNCILMAN ROY. >> Roy: I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY ONE THING. I THINK THE REASON WHY THE INCREASE IN THE BUDGET IS THE GENERATOR SIZE ON SIX COMING UP EXCEED THE 350-KILOWATT, IS THAT CORRECT? >> YES, SIR. WE HAVE SIX THAT EXCEED 350, AND THAT'S WHAT THIS CONTRACT COVERS. >> Roy: THEREFORE YOUR COST IS GOING TO INCREASE BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO HAVE THOSE SERVICED OUTSIDE OF THE CITY STAFF. >> THAT'S CORRECT, SIR. >> Roy: THANK YOU. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTOOD IT. >> Mayor Guajardo: THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN. OKAY. I THINK WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. PLEASE SUBMIT YOUR VOTE. >> City Secretary: MS. PAXSON? >> Paxson: AYE. >> City Secretary: I CAN'T SEE YOU. YOU SAY "AYE," RIGHT? >> Paxson: YES. >> City Secretary: PERFECT. >> Mayor Guajardo: THE MOTION CARRIES. THE NEXT ITEM PULLED WAS ITEM NO. 23. THAT IS A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH LNRA. WHO PULLED THAT ITEM? COUNCILMAN HERNANDEZ, YOUR QUESTION OR COMMENT. >> Hernandez: OKAY. THIS IS -- THE PROJECT IS MANAGED BY LNRA, NOT BY US. WE HAD NO SELECTION IN THE ENGINEER OR ANY OF THE PROJECT ASSOCIATED WITH IT? >> YOU ARE CORRECT. >> Zanoni: NICK, YOU HAD OVERSIGHT REVIEW, THOUGH? THAT'S WHY THE PROJECT WAS SLIGHTLY DELAYED. WE WERE AT THE RIVER AUTHORITY LOOKING AT THE EQUIPMENT. BUT EXPLAIN THAT PROCESS. >> Winklemann: ABSOLUTELY. SO THE DESIGN ENGINEER WAS SELECTED BY LNRA. THEY HAVE DONE THE LION'S SHARE OF WORK AT LAKE TEXANA. HOWEVER, THE AGREEMENT ALLOWS FOR THE CITY AND CCW TO REVIEW AND APPROVE THE DESIGN CONTRACT. AND, OF COURSE, THE AGREEMENT ALSO ALLOWS FOR THE CITY AND CCW TO REVIEW AND APPROVE ANY BID DOCUMENTS, DESIGN DOCUMENTS, AND ANY CONSTRUCTION BIDDING NUMBERS, THE CONSTRUCTION BIDS THAT ARE PRESENTED AS WELL. IT CERTAINLY IS A PARTNERSHIP AND I APPRECIATE THE CITY MANAGER BRINGING THAT UP. YEAH. >> Hernandez: OKAY. SO THE REASON I BROUGHT THIS UP WAS I WAS KIND OF SURPRISED TO SEE FREESE AND NICHOLS, CONSIDERING WE HAD BEEN USING HDR FOR THE MARY RHODES PIPELINE AND THE PUMPING STATIONS THIS ENTIRE TIME. DID WE NOT CONSIDER THAT WHEN THEY SELECTED FREESE AND NICHOLS? >> Winklemann: YOU'RE CORRECT. HDR, WE HAVE WORKED WITH THEM EXTENSIVELY ON THE INSPECTION ON THE MARY RHODES PIPELINE. THE DESIGN OF THE UPGRADES TO BOTH THE WOODSBORO AND BLOOMINGTON PUMP STATIONS. THIS IS THE PUMP STATION AT LAKE TEXANA IN EDNA. THE CITY AND CCW, PER OUR AGREEMENT, THIS INFRASTRUCTURE IS SOLELY FOR US SO WE HAVE THAT AGREEMENT TO FUND IT. HOWEVER, THE STATION IS FULLY MANAGED BY LNRA AS IT IS INTEGRAL TO THE ENTIRE DAM OPERATION AT LAKE TEXANA. >> Zanoni: FREESE AND NICHOLS MAY BE THE ONLY DESIGN FIRM FOR LAKE TEXANA, THE STRUCTURE AND THE PUMPHOUSE, IS THAT CORRECT? >> Winklemann: CORRECT. FREESE AND NICHOLS' EXPERIENCE WITH DAMS -- I SEE YOU SHAKING YOUR HEAD, YOU KNOW. AND OF COURSE THEY HAVE BEEN INVOLVED WITH LNRA FROM THE BEGINNING AND THEY ARE VERY KNOWLEDGEABLE OF THAT PUMP STATION ITSELF. WHEREAS THE WORK THAT'S DONE AT BLOOMINGTON AND WOODSBORO WAS COMPLETED BY HDR. >> Hernandez: I'M AWARE THAT FREESE AND NICHOLS' EXPERTISE IS IN DAMS, PROBABLY THE BEST IN THE STATE. I DIDN'T KNOW IF THIS WAS TIED TO THAT IN SOME ASPECT BUT SINCE IT WAS A PUMP STATION AFFECTING THE MARY RHODES PIPELINE, I THOUGHT YOU WOULD WANT SOME CONSISTENCY THERE. >> Winklemann: YEAH. I WOULD SAY THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT OF A DELAY THERE. THERE WERE A NUMBER OF REQUESTS THAT CCW MADE TO BE FURTHER INVOLVED TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF OVERSIGHT. >> Hernandez: ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE HDR DO ANY KIND OF INPUT OR OVERVIEW? WHAT DO THEY CALL THAT? >> Zanoni: PEER REVIEW. >> Hernandez: PEER REVIEW OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES. THIS IS THE MAJORITY OF OUR WATER NOW, RIGHT? AND I DON'T WANT ONE ENGINEER OVER HERE AND OVER THERE AND THEM POINTING FINGERS AT EACH OTHER. WHEN YOU HAVE THAT SITUATION, IT'S NOT CONTIGUOUS WITH ONE PERSON BEING RESPONSIBLE. YOU CAN HAVE THOSE ISSUES. I BRING THAT UP BECAUSE WE DIDN'T SELECT THEM, THERE WAS NO BID TAB, IT WAS JUST US AGREEING TO IT. IF YOU TOOK ANY OF THAT INTO CONSIDERATION, I WOULD STILL HAVE HDR LOOK OVER THEIR SHOULDER. >> Winklemann: YES, SIR. AND IF I COULD JUST FURTHER EXPLAIN THE PROJECT. SO THE PROJECT ALLOWS FOR A PERMANENT INSTALLATION OF A REDUNDANT 1,250-HORSEPOWER VERTICAL PUMP. THAT WAY IF THE OTHER PUMP GOES DOWN, WE CAN START THE OTHER ONE WITHOUT HAVING TO PULL THE PUMP. >> Hernandez: FULLY AWARE OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE. I UNDERSTAND THE REDUNDANCY. LIKE I SAID, JUST THE CONCERN THERE IS THAT THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TWO ENGINEERS WORKING ON THE SAME THING. >> Winklemann: WE'LL ABSOLUTELY COORDINATE. LNRA IS VERY OPEN. THE CITY MANAGER AND I WERE BOTH THERE WITH THE REST OF THE STAFF ABOUT A MONTH AGO. VIEWED THE PUMPHOUSE ITSELF AND DISCUSSED THE PROJECT IN DETAIL. >> Hernandez: THANK YOU. >> Mayor Guajardo: THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN. >> Hernandez: MOTION TO APPROVE. >> Mayor Guajardo: WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. PLEASE SUBMIT YOUR VOTE. >> City Secretary: MS. PAXSON? >> Paxson: AYE. >> City Secretary: OKAY. THERE SHE IS. YOU SAID "AYE," RIGHT? VERY GOOD. >> Mayor Guajardo: THE MOTION CARRIES. THE NEXT ITEM PULLED WAS ITEM NO. 27. COUNCILWOMAN CAMPOS. IT'S A ONE-READING ORDINANCE DESIGNATING FROST BANK AS THE DEPOSITORY FOR THE CITY'S MUNICIPAL FUNDS. >> Campos: I WANTED TO DO A SHOUT OUT TO FROST BANK. WE HAVE BEEN WITH FROST BANK FOR, I DON'T KNOW, OVER 25 YEARS, I BELIEVE. AND, WELL, THEY ARE PERSONALLY MY BANKERS AS WELL. BUT I WANTED TO SAY THAT THROUGHOUT THE YEARS THAT I KNOW WE'VE BEEN USING THEM, I HOPE THAT IT'S BEEN THE SAME AS IT IS FOR ME, WHICH IS THAT PERSONAL TOUCH THAT JUST -- I DON'T KNOW. I JUST FELT LIKE WE NEEDED TO HEAR MORE THAT THIS IS THE BANK THAT WE'RE USING, WHICH IS A REGIONAL BANK AND HAS DONE A FANTASTIC JOB. YOU KNOW, REALLY -- I REALLY DIDN'T WANT TO SAY ANYTHING EXCEPT THAT. YOU KNOW, THEY'VE DONE A GREAT JOB. WITH THAT, I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. >> SECOND. >> Mayor Guajardo: OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. COUNCILMAN CANTU. >> Cantu: QUESTION. THE ONLY BANK WE USE FOR OUR CITY ACCOUNT IS FROST BANK, CORRECT? >> YES, SIR. >> Cantu: IS THERE A REASON WHY WE DON'T USE SMALL COMMUNITY BANKS IN CORPUS CHRISTI? >> YES. SO -- >> Cantu: FROST BANK, FOR THE RECORD, IS A STATEWIDE BANK. >> YES, SIR. >> Cantu: WE HAVE FIRST COMMUNITY BANK, CHARTER BANK, BANK OF TEXAS. THERE'S ANOTHER COUPLE OF SMALL ONES. I WAS JUST WONDERING WHY IS THAT? >> DIRECTOR OF FINANCE AND PROCUREMENT. SO THE REASONS MUNICIPALITIES DO CONTRACTS WITH LARGE NATIONAL BANKS IS THE COLLATERAL REQUIREMENTS. SO MOST COMMUNITY BANKS CAN SECURE THE CITY'S FUNDING UP TO $250,000, WHICH IS SIMILAR TO YOUR LOCAL PERSONAL FUNDS. BUT THE CITY DOES REQUIRE INSURANCE ABOVE THAT TO PROTECT THE TAXPAYERS' MONEY. WHAT THESE BANKS HAVE TO DO IS PROVIDE WHAT'S CALLED COLLATERAL OR BASICALLY ENSURE THAT OUR FUNDS ABOVE 250 IS SECURED. THERE'S A HUGE COST TO THAT SO YOUR LOCAL COMMUNITY BANKS OR CREDIT UNIONS AREN'T ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT SERVICE. >> Cantu: GOT IT. SO THEY CAN'T GET AN EXTRA INSURANCE POLICY? >> YOU KNOW, IN MY EXPERIENCE WITH MULTIPLE CITIES, WHEN THEY WOULD GO OUT FOR REQUEST FOR APPLICATIONS, TYPICALLY YOUR MAJOR BANKS WERE THE ONES THAT ARE RESPONDING. THE LOCAL BANKS AREN'T ABLE TO COMPETE. ONE IS THE COLLATERAL THAT'S REQUIRED. TWO, IT IS THE REQUIREMENTS WE HAVE FOR FRAUD -- WE DO A LOT OF ELECTRONIC TRANSACTIONS. WE REQUIRE A PLATFORM TO DO ALL OUR TRANSACTIONS ONLINE TO MONITOR THOSE TRANSACTIONS. SO SOME OF THE SMALLER BANKS DON'T HAVE THAT TECHNOLOGY YET TO OFFER THAT ADDITIONAL FRAUD PROTECTION. SO TYPICALLY YOU'LL SEE A LOT OF MAJOR BANKS RESPONDING. >> Cantu: GOT IT. I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. >> Mayor Guajardo: WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? >> YEP. >> Mayor Guajardo: WE HAVE A SECOND? PLEASE SUBMIT YOUR VOTE. >> City Secretary: MS. PAXSON? >> Paxson: AYE. >> City Secretary: DID YOU SAY "AYE"? >> Paxson: AYE. >> Mayor Guajardo: THE MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU. THE LAST ITEM PULLED WAS ITEM NO. 28, AN ORDINANCE ACCEPTING A GRANT OF $7,000 FROM THE CAN'D AID FOUNDATION TO SUPPORT RECYCLING AND COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AT LARGE LOCAL EVENTS. WAS THAT MS. CAMPOS? GO AHEAD. >> Campos: I WANTED IT PULLED OUT SO THE COMMUNITY COULD HEAR THE GOOD NEWS ABOUT THIS GRANT. IF YOU DON'T MIND. >> Mayor Guajardo: VERY GOOD NEWS ITEM. THANK YOU FOR POINTING IT OUT. ABSOLUTELY IS. >> SURE. PHILIP ALDERS, DIRECTOR OF SOLID WASTE. IT'S A SMALL GRANT, $7,000. THE ORGANIZATION IS CAN'D AID FOUNDATION. THEIR PROGRAM IS A CRUSH-IT CRUSADE. BASICALLY IT GOES TO MUNICIPALITIES, ORGANIZATIONS TO ENHANCE THEIR RECYCLING EFFORTS. IT PROVIDES TRAINING AND RESOURCES NEEDED FOR VOLUNTEER ACTIVITIES. BUC DAYS, WE PROVIDE RECEPTACLES AND GLOVES FOR STUDENTS AND VOLUNTEERS THAT HELP US OUT. AGAIN, THE CRUSH-IT CRUSADE, I JUST WENT OVER THIS HERE. WE HAVE AN ENVIRONMENTAL COALITION WITH THE LOCAL HIGH SCHOOLS. THEY HELP US WITH A LOT OF VOLUNTEER ACTIVITIES. SO THIS WOULD GO TO SUPPORT THEM. WE TRAIN THE TRAINERS, I GET YOU WOULD SAY. WE HAVE A COUPLE OF OUTREACH COORDINATORS. THEY GO OUT TO THESE LOCAL HIGH SCHOOLS AND TRAIN THE STUDENTS AND THE STUDENTS GO TO THE EVENTS AND THEY PROVIDE, YOU KNOW, PASS OUT EDUCATIONAL MATERIALS, ET CETERA. THIS IS WHAT THE GRANT FOR IS TO SUPPLY THOSE THINGS FOR THEM. >> Campos: ANYWAY, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE COMMUNITY HEARD THIS BECAUSE, I MEAN, THIS REALLY GOES OUT AND HELPS TRAIN OR HELPS AT LEAST ASSIST OR HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS AND SHOW BACK WHAT WE ALL CAN DO FOR THE ENVIRONMENT. YOU KNOW, IT MAY BE A SMALL AMOUNT, $7,000, BUT IT'S A LOT FOR THE STUDENTS AND A LOT FOR US. I JUST WANTED THE PUBLIC TO HEAR THAT. WITH THAT, I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. >> Mayor Guajardo: I'LL SECOND THAT. PLEASE SUBMIT YOUR VOTE. >> City Secretary: MS. PAXSON? >> Paxson: AYE. >> City Secretary: WE DIDN'T HEAR YOU. I'M SORRY, MS. PAXSON. >> Paxson: AYE. >> City Secretary: MR. BARRERA IS NOT -- >> Mayor Guajardo: OKAY. THE MOTION CARRIES. SO AT THIS TIME THE COUNCIL IS GOING TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION ON ITEMS 36 THROUGH 38 PER TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 551.071, 551.072, AND 551.087. AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK AND DO ITEMS 29 THROUGH 35. >> Zanoni: MAYOR, I THINK WE JUST WANT TO GET A QUICK PICTURE WITH OUR PARTNERS FROM THE THREE CITIES. >> Mayor Guajardo: ABSOLUTELY. WE WOULD LOVE THAT. WE WILL RETURN. [EXECUTIVE SESSION] >> Mayor Guajardo: OKAY. WE'RE GOING TO RECONVENE OUR MEETING, AND WE LEFT OFF OT SECTION K, WHICH IS PUBLIC HEARS 29 AND 30. , ITEM 29 IS ANDREA AND DEVON ZAYASIN IN DISTRICT 3. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCILMEMBERS. THE FIRST OF TWO ZONING CASES, XAYASENE, THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 5113 LAR CADE DRIVE, THE REQUEST IS FROM THE RS-6 TO THE RS-6 WITH A SPECIAL PERMIT. THE REQUEST IS TO MAKE A PARKING SURFACE. EXISTING ZONING TO THE LEFT-HAND SIDE TO THE WEST, THAT IS A CORPUS CHRISTI TRADE CENTER. TO THE SOUTH IS AN EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY HOME AND THEN WE HAVE, OF COURSE, ANOTHER SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE ACROSS THE STREET AND TO THE NORTH THE ADJACENT SMALL SHOPPING CENTER THAT THIS PARKING LOT WOULD BE PROVIDING SURPLUS PARKING FOR. JUST WANTED TO MENTION WE STARTED INCLUDING THE PUBLIC NOTICE SIGNS. YOU'LL SEE THE LARGER 8 SQUARE FOOT SIGN THAT'S POSTED ON THE PROPERTY. OF THE 25 NOTICES WE MAILED OUT, WE RECEIVED ZERO IN FAVOR AND ZERO IN OPPOSITION, AND, OF COURSE, WE PROVIDE ANALYSIS AND RECOMMENDATION COMPARING THE REQUEST WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. IT IS CONSISTENT WITH BOTH PLAN CC, THE AREA QUO DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND ESSENTIALLY BEING ABLE TO SURFACE AND PROVIDE THAT ADJACENT SUPPORT FOR THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY. IT WON'T ALLOW ANY OTHER COMMERCIAL USES MINUS THE ONE USE OF A PARKING LOT. THEY WILL STILL HAVE TO INSTALL SCREENING, LIGHTING, BUFFERING, ALL THOSE GOOD THINGS THAT WE REQUIRE REGARDLESS OF THE CHANGE IN ZONING BECAUSE OF PARKING LOT USES. THE HOURS OF OPERATION WILL NOT EXCEED YOUR STANDARD BUSINESS HOURS OF 8:00 TO 5:00, SO IT WILL NOT HAVE ANY TYPE OF OVERNIGHT ACTIVITY OR LATE-NIGHT ACTIVITY THAT WILL GENERATE EXCESS NOISE. BUT WITH THAT, PLANNING COMMISSION AND STAFF RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE SPECIAL P PERMIT I STAND BY FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. >> Mayor Guajardo: OKAY. COUNCILMAN CANTU? >> Cantu: WHAT ITEM NUMBER IS THIS? >> Mayor McComb: ITEM NUMBER 29. >> Cantu: -- I WAS MARK WAS TALKING TO ME. >> IT'S A REZONING FOR A SMALL PARKING LOT TO SERVICE A SHOPPING CENTER, SO IT'S REQUEST FOR A SPECIAL PERMIT. >> Cantu: MAKES SENSE. THANK YOU. >> YES, SIR. >> Mayor Guajardo: OKAY. WE HAVE -- WELL, LET ME OPEN PUBLIC COMMENT. IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE COMMENT ON ITEM NUMBER 29? OKAY. THERE BEING NO ONE, WE'LL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT. WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? >> SECOND. >> Mayor Guajardo: OKAY. PLEASE SUBMIT YOUR VOTE.MRS. PA? >> Paxson: AYE. >> City Secretary: THANK Y YOU. OKAY. >> Mayor Guajardo: OKAY. THE MOTION CARRIES. ITEM NUMBER 30 IS ZN8910, PAUL AND MELBA SAVOY, NOW, IS THIS IN DISTRICT 4 OR 1, ANDREW? >> THIS IS IN DISTRICT ONE. >> Mayor Guajardo: IT IS 1? >> OKAY. DISTRICT ONE COUNCILMEMBER IS NOT -- >> NORTH BEACH. >> SYLVIA? DID YOU HAVE THIS ON FROM LAST TIME? >> [OFF MIC] >> Mayor Guajardo: OKAY. WELL -- >> THAT'S QUITE ALL RIGHT. SO OUR SECOND ZONING CASE FOR THE AFTERNOON, PAUL AND MELBA SAVOY, LOCATED ON NORTH BEACH FROM THE CR-1 COMMERCIAL RESORT DISTRICT TO THE RM-AT MULTIFAMILY DISTRICT. THE PURPOSE OF THE QUESTION REQUEST IS TO CONSTRUCT ONE SINGLE FAMILY HOME. BASED ON THE FUTURE LAND USE AND THE SURROUNDING ZONING DISTRICTS WHICH ARE ALSO CR-1, THE REQUEST IS COMPATIBLE AS IT IS SURROUNDED BY OTHER LIKE USES, THERE'S A CHURCH ON THE OTHER SIDE OF ELM STREET AND YOU HAVE SOME ADJACENT EXISTING NONCONFORMING SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, KIND OF THE EXPLANATION IS BEFORE THE UDC WAS ADOPTED YOU COULD HAVE SINGLE FAMILY HOME IN THE CR DISTRICT. THE UDC ADOPTED IN 2011, CHANGED THOSE REGULATIONS, SO NOW THE FEW VACANT LOTS THAT ARE REMAINING FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A HOUSE DO HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE FORMAL CHANGE IN ZONING, BUT IT IS A LIKE USE COMPARED TO SURROUNDING USES. OF THE 15 NOTICES MAILED OUT, WE RECEIVED ZERO IN FAVOR AND ZERO IN OPPOSITION. AND, AGAIN, WE HAVE THE NEW LARGER PUBLIC NOTICE SIGNS, EIGHT SQUARE FEET NOW POSTED ON THE PROPERTY. AND AS I MENTIONED, AS PART OF OUR ANALYSIS AND RECOMMENDATION, WE COMPARE ALL ZONING CASES WITH OUR RUBRIC WITHIN THE UDC WHICH DETERMINES THAT THE CASE IS CONSISTENT WITH PLAN CC, THE AREA DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP. STAFF AND PLANNING COMMISSION BOTH RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE CHANGE OF ZONING. IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS... >> Mayor Guajardo: WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. I'LL GO AHEAD AND OPEN PUBLIC HEARING. IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE COMMENT ON ITEM NUMBER 30? OKAY. THERE BEING NO ONE, WE'LL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT. PLEASE SUBMIT YOUR VOTE.MRS. PA? >> Paxson: AYE. >> Mayor Guajardo: THE MOATIONZ CARRIES. ITEM NUMBER 31 WAS HEARD EARLIER THIS MORNING. SO WE GO TO ITEM NUMBER 32, THAT IS A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING EXECUTION OF AN INTERLOCAL COOPERATION AGREEMENT WITH NUECES COUNTY FOR PARTICIPATION IN THE TAX INCREMENT REINVESTMENT ZONE NUMBER 7 OR TIRZ 7. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCILMEMBERS DANIEL McGINN, INTERIM ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER. IF YOU DON'T MIND, I'D LIKE TO TAKE ITEMS 331ST. 33 AND 32 KIND OF GO TOGETHER. >> Mayor Guajardo: OKAY. LET ME READ 33, DAN. ITEM NUMBER 33 IS AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI, TEXAS, DESIGNATING A CONTIGUOUS GEOGRAPHIC AREA WITHIN THE EXTRATERRITORIAL JURISDICTIONAL LIMITS OF THE CITY AS A TAX INCREMENT REINVESTMENT ZONE PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 311 OF THE TEXAS TAX CODE, TO BE KNOWN AS REINVESTMENT ZONE NUMBER 7. >> McGinn: THANK YOU. THIS NEXT ITEM, IT'S AN ORDINANCE CREATING A NEW TIRZ DISTRICT NUMBER 7 WITHIN THE LONDON AREA. THIS ITEM WAS PRESENTED LAST SUMMER BY ARTURO AND HEATHER WITH THE FINAL DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL AT THAT TIME WAS TO WORK WITH THE COUNTY TO DEVELOP THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT, AND THI THEN COME BACK TO COUNCIL TO CREATE THE ZONE AND FINALIZE THE INTERLOCAL WHICH BRINGS US HERE TODAY. THE TAX INCREMENT REINVESTMENT ZONE, THIS IS A SLIDE I KNOW Y'ALL HAVE SEEN QUITE A BIT, BUT IT'S A SPECIAL DISTRICT, IT ALLOWS -- THE FOCUS IS TO TRACT NEW INVESTMENT INTO AN AREA THAT MAY NOT OTHERWISE OCCUR. IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S PROVIDED FOR IN TEXAS CODE 311. AND FOR THIS PARTICULAR ONE, THESE FUNDS WILL BE, YOU KNOW, GENERATED WITHIN THE ZONE AND THEN GO BACK TO THE PARTICULAR PROJECT, KIND OF LIKE A SUBZONE. SIMILAR WE HAVE ON THE ISLAND WITH THE WHITECAP PROJECT, SOME OF THOSE FUNDS ARE GOING TO BE STAYING WITHIN THAT PROJECT, ALONG WITH THE LAKE PADRE. SO THE VISION FOR THIS PARTICULAR ZONE, YOU KNOW, THIS IS AN AREA THAT'S A LOT OF GREENFIELD DEVELOPMENT. THIS IS GOING TO ALLOW FOR BETTER PLANNING OF HOW WE PUSH OUT INTO PROMOTE RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL GROWTH. IT'S GOING TO ENHANCE -- HOPEFULLY WE'LL HAVE SOME PARK TRAIL DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE ZONE IMPROVING QUALITY OF LIFE. IT'S GOING TO ATTRACT A NEW TAX BASE AND SUPPORT NEW DEVELOPMENT IN THIS UNDEVELOPED AREA. AND, AGAIN, THIS AREA DOES LACK A LOT OF THE NECESSARY INFRASTRUCTURE, SO THIS TIRZ WILL ALLOW US TO FOCUS REALLY ON DELIVERY OF ROAD, WASTEWATER, WATER AND ROAD INFRASTRUCTURE. THIS IS THE PROPOSED ZONE FOR THE AREA, THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT WAS PRESENTED BACK IN THE SUMMERTIME. THIS ZONE IS COMPLETELY -- ALL THE SPACE IS OUTSIDE OF THE CITY LIMITS. THE EXCEPTION IS WE DID -- IN WORKING WITH THE COUNTY, THEY HAD REQUESTED SOME PROPERTIES BE EXCLUDED IN ORDER FOR THEM TO PARTICIPATE, AND SO WE'RE HONORING THAT REQUEST IN OUR PROPOSAL HERE. THEY HAD ASKED THAT WE REMOVE A COUPLE PARCELS THAT CONTAINED VERTICAL CONSTRUCTION ON THEM. AND SO, AGAIN, THIS MAP IS WHAT WAS PRESENTED BACK IN THE SUMMERTIME. SO WHY THE TIRZ IN THIS AREA? IT'S, AGAIN, PRIMARILY IT'S UNDEVELOPED AREA. IT'S ALL CURRENTLY OUTSIDE OF OUR CITY LIMITS, IT LACKS THE INFRASTRUCTURE. MUCH OF THIS EXISTING DEVELOPMENT IN AND AROUND THIS AREA IS THE HALF ACRE TO ONE-ACRE LOTS BECAUSE WE REALLY DON'T HAVE MUCH WASTEWATER OTHER THAN THE NORTHERN AREA, IN AND AROUND THE SCHOOL. AND SO THIS ONE -- THIS TIRZ WILL BE A BIT DIFFERENT THAN SOME OF THE OTHER ONES THAT WE'VE HAD. IT WILL GO TOWARDS PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT AND HELP THEM WITH THEIR INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS, AND -- BUT PART OF THE CONDITION IS THAT THEY DO REQUEST TO BE ANNEXED. THAT WILL BE A PROVISION THAT WILL BE IN PLACE AND REQUIRE TO PARTICIPATE IN THE TIRZ. THEY'LL BE KRAIBTING -- YOU KNOW, AGAIN, LIKE -- AS A SUBZONE, SO ALL OF THE INCREMENT WILL STAY WITHIN THAT PARTICULAR PROJECT AREA AND WILL HELP THEM DEFRAY SOME OF THE COSTS FOR INFRASTRUCTURE FOR ROADS, FOR WASTEWATER. THESE ARE THE -- YOU KNOW, WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING WITH THE MAYOR BELLA SITES DEVELOPED IN YELLOW. WE HAVE SUBSEQUENT AGREEMENTS THAT WILL BE NEEDED TO WORK WITH THEM, THEY'LL ALSO LIKELY NEED A PID WHICH WE'RE ALSO WORKING WITH THEM ON. THE PROPERTY TO THE NORTH WILL BE LIKELY A SECOND SUBZONE THAT'S CREATED AND THE INCREMENT WILL STAY WITHIN THOSE PARTICULAR JONES AND HELP THEM WITH THEIR INFRASTRUCTURE COSTS. SO THE TERMS FOR THE TIRZ WILL BE 25 YEARS, AND SO THIS IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE OF SOME OF THE WAY THE LOANS MAY WORK WITH THE PIDS, A LOT OF THIS INCREMENT WILL GO TOWARDS PAYING DOWN SOME OF THESE PID BONDS THAT WILL GO TOWARDS THE INFRASTRUCTURE COST. WE'RE PROPOSING THAT 50% WOULD STAY WITHIN THE PROPOSED SUBZONE OR WITHIN THE ZONE AND 50% WOULD COME BACK TO THE CITY'S AD VALOREM. AND THEN, IMEN, THESE ARE NUMBERS FROM THE DEVELOPERS THAT WE'VE TALKED TO IN THE AREA THAT WOULD INVEST, AND SO IT'S ABOUT 2.8 BILLION THAT THEY'RE FORECASTING WITH 198 MILLION THAT WOULD BE NEW TAX REVENUE OVER THAT 25 YEARS. AS FAR AS PARTICIPATION GOES, THE CITY WOULD BE AT 50% FOR THE 25 YEARS, THE COUNTY WOULD BE AT 45 FOR THE 20, AND WE -- WE DID SPEAK WITH DEL MAR, THEY DO HAVE INTEREST BUT THEY WANTED US TO EXECUTE THE COUNTY AGREEMENT FIRST AND THEN COME BACK TO THEM AND HAVE THOSE DISCUSSIONS. THAT WILL BE OUR NEXT STOP WITH DEL MAR IF ALL THIS IS APPROVED TODAY. THE COMPOSITION OF THE BOARD, THIS WOULD BE A LARGER ONE, OF THE ONES THAT WE DO HAVE CURRENTLY, IT WOULD BE A 15-MEMBER, SEVEN WITH THE CITY, FIVE WITH THE COUNTY, TWO WITH DEL MAR, AND THEN THE DEVELOPER REPRESENTATIVE FOR ONE OF THE SEATS. AND THEN THE CHAIR COULD BE THE CITY AND THE VICE CHAIR WITH THE COUNTY, AND THESE ARE SOME OF THE PROVISIONS THAT WE WORKED OUT WITH THE INTERLOCAL, WITH THE COUNTY'S LEGAL TEAM. SO NEXT STEPS, WE WILL HAVE THE DEL MAR AGREEMENT THAT WE'LL NEED TO WORK OUT, BUT WE WILL HAVE THE SECOND READING FOR THE -- CREATING THE ZONE ITSELF. THAT WOULD TAKE PLACE IN JANUARY. WE WOULD ALSO HAVE AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT THAT WE WOULD NEED TO APPROVE WITH DEL MAR. WE'LL HAVE APPLICATIONS FOR THE DIFFERENT TIRZ BOARD MEMBER APPOINTMENTS. WE'LL HAVE TO APPROVE A TIRZ PROJECT AND FINANCING PLAN, AND THEN WE'LL HAVE DEVELOPER AGREEMENTS THAT WILL BOTH NEED TO BE APPROVED AT THE TIRZ AND COUNCIL LEVEL, AND THAT WOULD LIKELY BE WITH THE MIRABELLA PROJECT, THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE THE FIRST ONE THAT WOULD BE READY TO GO. SO OUR FIRST ONE IS TO HAVE ALL THESE DONE HOPEFULLY THE FIRST QUARTER OF NEXT YEAR WOULD BE OUR HOPE. AND THAT CONCLUDES THE PRESENTATION. AGAIN, THIS IS ITEM 33 ON THE CREATION, AND THEN ITEM 32 IS THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT THAT WE HAVE WITH THE COUNTY. >> Mayor Guajardo: OKAY. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN HERNANDEZ? >> Hernandez: OKAY. I WANT TO SAY THAT THIS IS KIND OF A GREAT WAY OF LOOKING AT THIS IS THAT THIS GIVES US ANOTHER TOOL FOR DEVELOPMENT THAT IS SEPARATE FROM THE -- OUR TRUST FUNDS, RIGHT, ESPECIALLY THE PID. AND THIS IS HOW I ENVISION THE PID TO WORK WHEN WE ACTUALLY TALKED ABOUT THIS MANY YEARS AGO, THAT IT WOULD BE IN THE UNINCORPORATED AREAS AND BRING THEM IN AS A WAY TO PAY FOR DEVELOPMENT OUTSIDE OF JUST THE TRUST FUNDS. SO THIS IS A -- YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU COMBINE THE TWO, YOU HAVE THE 50% OF THE TIRZ REINVESTMENT PLUS YOU HAVE THE PID FOR MIRABELLA, HOPEFULLY THAT WILL CONTINUE TO GROW IN THAT ASPECT TO TRY AND FUND SOME OF THIS INFRASTRUCTURE BEYOND WHAT WE CAN DO THROUGH THE TRUST FUNDS. SO I THINK THIS IS A STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION AND A GOOD WAY TO DEVELOP AREAS AND PAY FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE. THANK YOU. OH, AND I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. >> SECOND. >> Mayor Guajardo: OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. I'M GOING TO OPEN PUBLIC COMMENT. WOULD ANYONE IN THE AUDYINS LIKE TO MAKE COMMENT ON ITEM NUMBER 32 AND 33. IS YOUR MOTION FOR BOTH, COUNCILMAN HERNANDEZ? >> Hernandez: YES. >> Mayor Guajardo: SO IT'S A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM 32 AND 33. WE HAVE A SECOND. PLEASE SUBMIT YOUR VOTE.MRS. PA? >> Paxson: AYE OKAY. THE M >> Mayor Guajardo: WE'L THE MOTION CARRIES. WE HAVE ITEMS 34, AN UPDATE ON WARMING CENTER ACTIVATION PLAN AND UNHOUSED PROGRAMS ADMINISTRATOR PRESENTED BY FIRE CHIEF BRANDON WADE. >> Chief Wade: BRANDON WADE, FIRE CHIEF. THANK YOU FOR GIVING US THE TIME TO PRESENT ON THIS AND THE EMERGENCY REFUGE CENTER. WE SENT A MEMO OUT AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MONTH ON DECEMBER THE THIRD THAT HIGHLIGHTED SOME OF THE PARAMETERS AND THE CRITERIA THAT WE USE WHEN WE ACTIVATE AN EMERGENCY REFUGE CENTER. THERE IS A PART IN HERE, JUST BECAUSE OF THE POPULATION THAT TEND TO UTILIZE THE REFUGE CENTER, WHERE WE ALSO HAVE THE HOMELESS COORDINATOR AND SOME OF THE WORK THAT'S BEEN DONE, BUT MAINLY THIS BRIEF IS TO HIGHLIGHT THE CRITERIA AND WHAT WE'RE USING AND WHAT WE'VE DONE TO PREPARE OURSELVES IN THE CITY FOR COLD WEATHER WHEN WE HAVE TO OPEN UP ONE OF THE CENTERS. SO PART OF THIS WITH OUR COLD WEATHER PROTOCOL, AS WE OFFERED IN THE MEMO, IS TO TAKE CARE OF THOSE THAT ARE IN THE VULNERABLE POPULATIONS WHEN THE COLD WEATHER HITS, AND WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT MAINLY THE HYPOTHERMIA, IF TEMPERATURES GOT REALLY BAD, WE COULD SEE THE FROSTBITE, BUT MAINLY WE LOOK AT THE CONDITIONS THAT WOULD CAUSE THE HYPOTHERMIA. WE HAVE A NUMBER OF THINGS THAT WE DO HERE WITH THE DAYTIME WARNING CENTERS, WITH THE SENIOR CENTERS AND THE LIBRARIES, AND WE ALSO HAVE THE ABILITY, IF NEEDED, IS TO OPEN THE EMERGENCY REFUGE CENTER, KIND OF THE LAST RESORT TO TAKE CARE OF THOSE OUT IN THE COLD WEATHER. THIS IS WHERE WE'LL HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THIS, AND, AGAIN, TALK ABOUT THE THINGS AND THE STEPS THAT WE'VE DONE TO CONSTANTLY IMPROVE OUR OPERATIONS IN THIS ARENA. IT'S ANYTHING WE DO IN EMERGENCY SERVICES IS WHEN WE HAVE AN INCIDENT, WHEN WE HAVE AN OPERATION, WE GO BACK, LOOK, SEE HOW WE CAN IMPROVE. AND I THINK YOU'LL SEE, AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE DONE HERE. SO WHAT DO WE DO WHEN THE COLD WEATHER LOOKS LIKE IT'S COMING OUR WAY? THE OFFICE OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, WE'RE ALREADY IN CONSTANT CONTACT WITH THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE, AND WE TALK TO THEM ABOUT EVERYTHING FROM DROUGHT TO STORMS THAT ARE COMING TO ALSO WHEN WE SEE THE COLD FRONTS COME THROUGH. SO WHEN WE LOOK AT THAT AND WE'RE IN CONVERSATION WITH THEM, WHAT ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE LOOK FOR TO SEE IF THE NEED IS HERE TO OPEN UP AN EMERGENCY REFUGE CENTER? IS THERE THE POTENTIAL FOR US TO SEE POWER OUTAGES WIDESPREAD ACROSS THE CITY OR, YOU KNOW, THIS COMMUNITY. NOT JUST MAYBE ONE LINE GOES DOWN AND WE'RE LOOKING AT A BLOCK. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TRUE, WIDESPREAD POWER OUTAGES. WE'RE LOOKING FOR NOTIFICATIONS FROM THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE ABOUT ANY STORM WARNINGS THAT ARE COMING, OF COURSE WINDCHILL ADVISORIES, WE HAVE THE WIND THAT OFTEN COMES WITH IT HERE ON THE COASTAL BEND. ARE WE GOING TO HAVE THE EXTREMELY COLD TEMPERATURES? WHAT ARE THE LIKELIHOOD OF THE RESIDENTS TO USE A WARMING CENTER, AND OFTENTIMES YOU WOULD THINK MAYBE EVERYBODY WOULD USE IT WHEN IT GETS COOL. IT DEPENDS ON THE DURATION OF THE EVENT, IF THEY'RE GOING TO LEAVE THEIR HOUSE OR LEAVE WHEREVER THEY STAY CURRENTLY TO GO AND GET TRANSPORTED THROUGH THE BUS OR WHAT OTHER SERVICES TO IT. WE'RE TRYING TO SEE WHAT IS THE DURATION, WHAT IS THE LIKELIHOOD OF INDIVIDUALS USING THAT CENTER. AND WE'RE ALWAYS IN CONTACT WITH OUR LOCAL SHELTERS TO SEE WHAT IS THEIR CAPACITY, WHAT ARE THEY SEEING? CAN WE PUT SOME MORE FOLKS IN THERE? AND IF THEY'VE REACHED CAPACITY, A LOT OF TIMES THAT'S A TRIGGER POINT AND WE'LL GO AND YOU'LL SEE THAT THROUGHOUT THIS DISCUSSION IN THE PRESENTATION, IS IF THEY CAN RECEIVE MORE INDIVIDUALS OR IF WE NEED TO ASSIST. SO WE BASE THINGS HERE ON THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE. IT GIVES US, YOU KNOW, THE SOLID FOOTPRINT OF THEM COMING TO US WITH INFORMATION. THEY ISSUE OUT THE NUMEROUS WATCHES, WARNINGS OR ADVISORIES. AND WE USUALLY GET THOSE A LITTLE BIT BEFOREHAND. AGAIN, WITH THE CONVERSATIONS OF KNOWING THAT A STORM MAY BE COMING OUR WAY, WE DO LOOK AT THE WINDCHILL, WE DO LOOK AT THE EXCESSIVE COLD THREATS AND THEN WE'RE TAKING THEIR ADVISEMENTS OF WHAT THEY THINK THE WEATHER IS GOING TO DO. SO SOME OF THESE THAT WE SEE THAT THEY'LL ISSUE, AND REALIZE, SOME HAPPEN -- CAN OVERLAP. WE CAN HAVE EXTREME COLD AND FREEZING RAIN ADVISORY, SO THESE ARE NOT JUST EXCLUSIVE. WE COULD HAVE A COUPLE OF THESE WARNINGS AND WATCHES COME INTO EFFECT. AND WE LOOK AT THAT AND PUT THAT TOGETHER AND PUT THE TEAM AND MAKE THE DECISION. SO ONE OF THE ONES THAT WE FIRST -- AND WE'LL OFTEN SEE IS WHAT IS A FREEZE WATCH OR A FREEZE WARNING, AND THAT'S ISSUED ANY TIME WHEN THE TEMPERATURES ARE EXPECTED TO FALL TO 32°, AND THAT'S THE ACTUAL. THAT DOES NOT FACTOR IN WINDCHILL. SO THE FREEZE WATCH IS HITTING THE 32° MARK OR LESS FOR TWO HOURS OR MORE IN A WIDESPREAD AREA. SO THE WATCH GETS ISSUED USUALLY 24 TO 48 HOURS. SO WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A HEAD'S UP WHEN THEY THINK THAT IT MIGHT HIT INTO A FREEZE WARNING. SO DEPENDING ON THE SEVERITY OF IT, HOW FAR IT'S GOING TO DROP, IS IT JUST GOING TO MAYBE FOR ONE HOUR DURING THE DAYTIME GET TO THAT 32° MARK. THAT'S WHERE WE START LOOKING AT IT, IS EMERGENCY REFUGE CENTER RECOMMENDED? AND THE TEAM IS TOGETHER AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT. WE ADVISE OUR RESIDENTS WHO NEED TO WARM UP, WE ENCOURAGE THEM TO USE THE CITY LIBRARIES AND THE SENIOR CENTERS DURING THE NORMAL BUSINESS HOURS. SO -- AND, AGAIN, I'M GOING TO REMIND YOU, WHEN IT SAYS RECOMMENDED, THE TEAM IS LOOKING AT EVERYTHING. WE'RE THERE. WE MAY OPEN IT, WE MAY NOT, DEPENDING ON THE DURATION OR THE SEVERITY OF THE EVENT. THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE WILL ISSUE A COLD WEATHER ADVISORY. THAT'S ISSUED ANY TIME WHEN THE APPARENT TEMPERATURES, WHICH IS THE WINDCHILL OR THE FEELS LIKE, THE APPARENT TEMPERATURE IS LESS THAN OR EQUAL TO 25° FOR AT LEAST TWO HOURS OR EXPECTED ACROSS A WIDESPREAD AREA. SO DEPENDING ON THE SEVERITY, AGAIN, THE DURATION, IT MAY BE RECOMMENDED THAT WE OPEN UP THE EMERGENCY REFUGE CENTER. WE STILL WILL SEND OUT MESSAGES, ENCOURAGE THOSE WHO NEED TO WARM UP DURING THE HOURS TO USE THE CITY LIBRARIES OR THE SENIOR CENTERS AS WARMING CENTER. WE WORK WITH THE RTA AT THE TIME -- AGAIN, WE ALWAYS PUT, IF APPROVED BY THE RTA, BUT THEY HAVE BEEN VERY GRACIOUS AND HAVE PROVIDED FREE TRANSPORTATION EVERY TIME, BUT OUR OFFICE WILL COORDINATE WITH THE RTA FOR TRANSPORTATION AND OBVIOUSLY OUR PUBLIC SAFETY FOLKS, THE POLICE OFFICERS, THE FIREFIGHTERS, THE MEDICS THAT ARE OUT THERE, THEY ALSO HAVE HELPED WITH TRAN PORT, TOO, WHEN THEY RUN ACROSS INDIVIDUALS EXPERIENCING COLD AND WE HAVE WARMING CENTERS OPEN OR THE REFUGE CENTER. WE ALSO ISSUE REVERSAL LETTERS AND MEDIA RELEASES WHEN WE SEE THE COLD WEATHER ADVISORIES COMING OUT. WE'RE TRYING TO GET THE MESSAGE OUT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE WHEN THAT IS COMING. THEY'LL ALSO ISSUE AN EXTREME COLD WATCH AND WARNING, SO THAT'S USUALLY ISSUED WITHIN 36 HOURS OF THE OCCURRENCE WHEN THE APPARENT, THE FEELS LIKE TEMPERATURE, IS GOING TO BE LESS THAN OR EQUAL TO AT LEAST 15° FOR AT LEAST TWO HOURS. AGAIN, ACROSS THE AREA. THE WATCH IS USUALLY ISSUED WITHIN 24 TO 48 HOURS. AND, REMEMBER, A WATCH IS NOT THE WARNING. THE WATCH IS LESS, THEY BELIEVE IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. THE WARNING IS, THEY'RE PRETTY SURE IT'S GOING TO KICK IN. SO WHEN THAT HITS, THAT IS WHEN WE RECOMMEND OPENING UP THE EMERGENCY REFUGE CENTER BAISESSED ON WHAT WE'VE SEEN -- BASED ON WHAT WE'VE SEEN IN THE PAST. THAT'S WHEN SHELTERS ARE USUALLY FULL AT THAT POINT, SO WE CAN ANTICIPATE WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO TAKE CARE OF THE OVERFLOW AND WE'LL OPEN UP OUR EMERGENCY REFUGE CENTER. WE'LL WORK WITH RTA AGAIN FOR FREE TRANSPORTATION. WE'LL ISSUE REVERSAL LETTERS AND MEDIA RELEASES OUT TO THE PUBLIC. THE ICE STORM WARNING THAT'S WHEN WE BELIEVE THERE'S GREATER THAN AN EIGHTH OF AN INCH OF ICE THAT WILL ACCUMULATE, AND FREEZING RAIN IS OUR BIGGEST HAZARDOUS WITH IT. AND YOU CAN SEE WE CAN HAVE THAT ICE STORM ALONG WITH EXTREME COLD WEATHER. SOMETIMES YOU CAN GET BOTH OF THOSE WITH IT. SO WE'RE GOING TO RECOMMEND OPENING THE CITY EMERGENCY REFUGE CENTER, WORK WITH THE TRANSPORTATION AND, AGAIN, SEND OUT MEDIA RELEASES. WE ALSO -- WHEN WE SEND THAT OUT, WE ALSO PUT NOTICES OUT, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S REALLY GOOD ABOUT PUTTING THAT OUT TO ALL THEIR PATROL OFFICERS. WE PUT IT OUT TO OUR FIREFIGHTERS AND MEDICS THAT ARE GOING OUT THERE, SO EVERYBODY'S AWARE THAT THE CENTERS ARE OPEN AND WE CAN START SENDING PEOPLE THAT WAY OR DIRECTING THEM THAT WAY IF THEY NEED HELP. AND THE LAST TWO WE HAVE, THE FREEZING RAIN ADVISORY, THAT'S WHERE IT'S LESS THAN AN EIGHTH OF AN INCH OF ICE WE BELIEVE WILL ACCUMULATE. WE MAY GET SOMETIMES, AS YOU'RE AWARE DOWN HERE, WE CAN GET FREEZING RAIN, BUT IT DOESN'T ACCUMULATE. IT MELTS A LOT OF TIMES WHEN IT HITS THE GROUND, BUT WE MAY SEE A FREEZING RAIN ADVISORY. DEPENDING ON THE SEVERITY AND THE DURATION AND WHAT THAT TEMPERATURE'S GOING TO BE IS -- WE MAY BE RECOMMENDING OPENING UP THE ERC. WE WORK WITH TRANSPORTATION, AGAIN, THINGSES THAT WE SEND OUT, SAME MESSAGES. THEN YOU'LL SEE THE FROST ADVISORY, THAT'S WHEN TEMPERATURES ARE EXPECTED TO FALL WITHIN A RANGE OF 36 TO 30°. WE'RE CONSTANTLY, AGAIN, TALKING WITH OUR SHELTERS. WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE SUPPORTED. IF THEY THINK THEY'RE GOING TO SEE AN INCREASE IN NUMBERS, I KNOW CCPD IS VERY GOOD ABOUT ASSISTING WITH EXTRA SECURITY THERE AS THEIR NUMBERS GO UP. WE MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE BLANKETS. WE HAVE EXTRA BLANKETS WITH THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT OFFICE THAT WE'VE PURCHASED, WE TRY TO FILL THEIR NEED TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE SUPPORTED, AND THEN IF WE NEED TO OPEN SOMETHING WE CAN, BUT WHICH TRY TO HELP THEM FIRST TAKE CARE OF THE OCCUPANTS THAT COME THEIR WAY. WE'RE ALWAYS PUSHING THAT OUT ABOUT THE WARMING CENTERS THAT WE HAVE AT THE LIBRARIES AND THE SENIOR CENTERS. SO THE DAYTIME WARMING CENTER, THE CITY -- WE DO USE THE LIBRARIES AND THE SENIOR CENTERS FOR PUBLIC DAYTIME WARMING CENTERS. THESE FACILITIES ARE OPEN TO EVERYONE DURING OUR COLD WEATHER, AND THEIR HOURS MAY BE EXTENDED. WE'VE DONE THAT BEFORE IN THE PAST NUMEROUS TIMES, SOMETIMES IF WE THINK IT'S JUST GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT COOLER LATER IN THE DAY, WE KEEP THAT OPEN A LITTLE BIT. THAT'S -- I WOULD SAY, A GAME-TIME DECISION, BUT, AGAIN, IT'S CONSTANT COMMUNICATION WITH THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE AND ALL THE PARTNERS THAT TAKE PART OF THAT OF STAFFING IT. AND THEN WE WILL ALWAYS COORDINATE WITH CC -- THE RTA TO PROVIDE THE TRANSPORTATION. SO NOW OUR EMERGENCY REFUGE CENTER, THIS IS WHERE THE CITY -- WE COORDINATE WITH ALL OF THOSE AGENCIES, ALL THE LOCAL SHELTERS, TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE SUPPORTED. AND THEN IF THAT NEED -- THAT'S PART OF OUR DECISION VARIABLE THAT WE LOOK AT TO SEE IF WE NEED TO OPEN UP. SO WHEN WE TALK TO THEM, IF THE CONDITIONS WARRANT, THE SHELTERS CANNOT TAKE ANY MORE, OR THEY CAN'T OPERATE OVERNIGHT, THAT'S WHERE WE START ESTABLISHING OUR ERC. EACH WEATHER EVENT IS UNIQUE, LIKE I SAID, WE JUST WENT THROUGH ALL OF THESE ADVISORIES THAT THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE PUTS OUT, SO OUR OPERATIONS WILL DEPEND ON THE SEVERITY AND THE DURATION OF THE CONDITIONS. WE'RE ALWAYS TALKING TO THE SHELTERS, WE LOOK TO SIGH IF THE SALVATION ARMY CAN TAKE EXTRA FOLKS, AND THEN BASED ON THAT, THAT'S WHEN WE HAVE A DECISION POINT AND WE TRY TO MAKE THAT DECISION POINT AS EARLY AS E WE CAN, BECAUSE WE HAVE STAFF THAT WE NEED TO MOBILIZE. AND I THINK WE'VE DONE WELL WITH THAT. THAT IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE HEARD FROM THE LAST ONE WAS IF WE COULD GET OUR STAFF A LITTLE BIT EXTRA NOTICE, SO WE WORK PRETTY HARD TO PUT THESE THINGS IN PLACE, AND WE CAN ADVISE THEM REALLY EARLY ON THAT THIS MAY BE COMING, TO HAVE PREPARATION. WE MAY ALREADY SET UP THE ASSIGNMENTS AND THE SHIFT FOR IT, BUT TRYING TO PUT EVERYBODY ON NOTICE WHEN IT COMES TIME TO OPEN UP THE ERC. NOW, THIS IS WHERE I THINK WE'VE MADE SOME GOOD IMPROVEMENT. SO ACTIVATING THE ERC INCLUDES DIRECT SUPPORTS FROM ALMOST EVERY CITY DEPARTMENT AND IT TAKES TO GET THE WORKERS THERE, TO GET THE SETUP DONE, AND HAVE THAT OPERATE SMOOTHLY. SO EVERYBODY FROM THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, POLICE DEPARTMENT, PARKS AND REC, HUMAN RESOURCES PLANNING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, ANIMAL CARE SERVICES AND EVERY OTHER DEPARTMENT THAT BUILDS OUR FOUR REFUGE TEAMS THAT WE HAVE, SO WE CAN OPERATE IN SHIFTS, BECAUSE THEY'RE 24/7 AND WE HAVE TO HAVE IT OPERATING THE ENTIRE TIME. YOU KNOW, THE CITY STAFF THAT MAKES UP THE REFUGE TEAM, WE'VE EXPANDED THAT BY ALMOST 114 INDIVIDUALS. AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WERE EXCITED ABOUT THAT WE DID THIS TIME, WE HADN'T DONE BEFORE, THAT WE HELD TRAINING SESSIONS, JUST OVER A WEEK AGO, OVER TWO DAYS, WE HELD FOUR SESSIONS FOR TRAINING THAT WAS LED BY THE MAIN TEAM THAT DOES THIS, TO JUST TRY TO PROVIDE AWARENESS FOR THE FOLKS THAT ARE GOING TO BE WORKING THERE. BECAUSE IT IS A -- YOU KNOW, YOU MAY HAVE SIGNED ON AND YOU WORK FOR THE CITY DOING ADMINISTRATIVE WORK, AND THE NEXT THING YOU KNOW, YOU'RE OPERATING AT AN EMERGENCY RIRVETION REFUGE CENTER, SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE OUR FOLKS ARE TRAINED IN FOOD HANDLING, CLEANING, TAKING CARE OF INDIVIDUAL, THE MEDICAL SIDE, WATCH OUT FOR, YOU KNOW, THE PROPER USE OF PERSONAL PROTECTIVE EQUIPMENT WHEN HANDLING ITEMS THAT ARE THERE. SO WE REALLY HAD A GOOD FOCUS, AND I THINK PROVIDED A GOOD VALUE TO OUR INDIVIDUALS TO GIVE THEM TRAINING BEFORE THIS TAKES PLACE. AND WE HADN'T DONE THAT BEFORE. THEY DID A GREAT JOB WITHOUT THE TRAINING BY LEARNING ON THE FLY AND JUST TAKING ADVISEMENT, BUT I THINK FOR US TO HANDLE -- DO THIS TRAINING OVER TWO DAYS WAS VERY VALUABLE. AND I THINK WE TRAINED 181 OF OUR FOLKS THAT ARE GOING TO BE WORKING THERE. AGAIN, JUST ANOTHER WAY OF HOW CAN WE IMPROVE THIS AND MAKE IT THE BEST EXPERIENCE AS POSSIBLE DURING A DIFFICULT TIME FOR EVERYONE. LET ME GO BACK. I APOLOGIZE. THIS YEAR, I THINK IT WAS MENTIONED EARLIER, WE HAVE CHANGED THE PRIMARY LOCATION OF OUR DRC, AND WE'RE MOVING IT OVER TO THE BEN GARZA GYM. I THINK IT'S A LITTLE BIT CLOSER TO WHERE SOME OF THE POPULATION THAT USES IT THE MOST IS, AND IT'S NOT TIED INTO THE NA NATATORIUM WHERE WE AFFECT OTHER OPERATIONS. WE CAN PUT ABOUT 100 PEOPLE WHAT WE WOULD SAY SAFELY IN THERE. THE FIRE MARSHAL'S GONE AND HELPED WITH THE SPACING TO MAKE SURE IT'S NOT AN OVERCROWDING SITUATION, SO THIS YEAR IF WE HAVE TO ACTIVATE, THE PRIMARY SOURCE WILL BE OVER AT THE BEN GARZA GYM. THERE'S A NUMBER OF THINGS THAT HAVE TO TAKE PLACE TO STILL MAKE IT HAPPEN. IT'S NOT JUST READY TO STAND UP AT A MOMENT'S NOTICE AS AN EMERGENCY REFUGE CENTER, WE'D HAVE TO BRING IN SOME DUMPSTERS, BRING IN SOME EXTRA BATHROOMS OVER THERE, SOME LIGHTS TO PUT UP AND AROUND, BECAUSE OUR NUMBER ONE THING THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT WHEN WE DO THIS CENTER, AND WE MAKE SURE WE CALL IT A REFUGE CENTER, BECAUSE IT'S NOT A SHELTER, IT'S NOT SET UP LIKE A SHELTER, SO IT'S KIND OF A REFUGE OF LAST RESORT FOR THIS COLD WEATHER, BUT WE'RE HERE TO PROVIDE SHELTER, SAFETY AND FOOD IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO PROVIDE OUT OF THAT. YOU KNOW, AND GIVE THEM A SAFE PLACE OUT OF THE ELEMENTS. IF THE BEN GARZA AS OUR PRIMARY, IF WE REACH CAPACITY AND WE HAVE TO OPEN, JUST LIKE WE DID LAST YEAR, THE DEL MAR DOME IS THE SECONDARY PLACE AND WE'RE SET UP TO GO AND OPEN UP. WE'D STILL HAVE TO GET SOME THINGS READY, BUT I THINK WE'RE PREPARED TO DO THAT, BECAUSE WE HAD TO DO IT LAST YEAR AS WE REACHED CAPACITY AT THE PRIMARY LOCATION FOR THE ERC. SO PART OF THIS -- AND THIS IS OUR LAST SLIDE HERE, YOU KNOW, WE BROUGHT ON AMANDA RODRIGUEZ WITH THIS AS OUR CITY'S UNHOUSED PROGRAM ADMINISTRATOR, AND SHE'S HIT THE GROUND RUNNING. AND I HAVE THIS IN THE SLIDE HERE TO SAY, WE ALREADY STARTED WORKING WITHER H. SHE'S BEEN WORKING WITH JACE AND THE TEAM WITH IT AS WE STARTED COLLABORATING ON WHAT ARE THE NEEDS, SHE WAS PART OF THE TRAINING AND HELPING SET THAT UP. SHE'S ALREADY STARTED IN BEING INVOLVED AND ENGAGED IN THIS, AS THAT IS A BIG PART OF THE POPULATION THAT COMES INTO THE ERC. SO I THINK SHE'S HIT THE GROUND RUNNING AND THERE'S A NUMBER OF LIST OF THINGS THAT SHE'S ALREADY STARTED WORKING ON SINCE SHE CAME ON ON OCTOBER THE 20TH. THAT'S IMPLEMENTING STATE FUNDING AND LOOKING FOR ALLOCATIONS FOR HOMELESS SERVICES, THE DEVELOPING THE STAFF TRAINING PLAN FOR THE ERC, AND SHE WAS ALSO, AGAIN, HELPING DELIVER IT AND PART OF THE PLANNING FOR IT. WHEN WE OPEN UP THIS CENTER, IF IT COMES TO THAT, SHE'LL BE PART OF THAT IN BEING OUT THERE AS WELL TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE MEETING THE NEEDS OF THE INDIVIDUALS AS WE BRING THEM IN THERE. AND I THINK THAT GOES A LONG WAY TO SAY THAT WE ARE ALREADY USING THIS POSITION AND SEEING BENEFIT FROM IT. SO WE THANK YOU FOR THAT. WITH THAT, I THINK TRACKING AND DISSEMINATING OPPORTUNITIES FOR FUNDING FOR, YOU KNOW, THE SERVICE PROVIDERS, THIS IS THINGS THAT WE CAN KIND OF DO IN THERE. WE CAN'T BE A SHELTER THAT JUST STARTS OFFERING A BUNCH OF SERVICES IN AN ERC, BECAUSE, AGAIN, WE'RE DEALING WITH MAINLY THE COLD WEATHER AND KEEPING PEOPLE WARM, FED AND SHELTERED AT THE TIME. BUT SHE'S ALREADY BEEN AN ASSET, AND, AGAIN, THOSE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT SHE'S BEEN WORKING ON. SO WITH THAT, I'LL STAND BY FOR ANY QUESTIONS IF Y'ALL HAVE ANY. >> Mayor Guajardo: YEAH, THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. THIS IS VERY -- OBVIOUSLY, THIS IS ALSO IMPROVED THROUGH THE YEARS, SO THANK YOU. AND I KNOW CHIEF WADE, IT TAKES JACE EVERYBODY THE TEAM, ESPECIALLY -- JUST EVERYTHING Y'ALL DO, SO IT'S VERY INFORMATIVE AND EDUCATIONAL. WE APPRECIATE IT. THE PUBLIC HAS TO KNOW ALL THE EFFORT THAT GOES INTO IT. THERE'S A HUGE EXPENSE, AND I SAY EXPENSE, REALLY INVESTMENT IN PUTTING THIS TOGETHER. SO THANK YOU. WE REALLY, REALLY APPRECIATE IT. COUNCILMAN ROY? >> Roy: YES, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. I ONLY HAVE ONE QUESTION. YOU KNOW, UNFORTUNATELY I'M -- SECURITY NOWADAYS HAS GOT TO BE TOP OF MIND, SO DO YOU HAVE -- LIKE WE HAVE A REMOTE -- WHAT DO YOU CALL THAT, WHERE YOU HAVE TO -- >> LIKE THE METAL DETECTOR. >> Roy: METAL DETECTOR THAT'S SET UP SO THAT AS PEOPLE ARE COMING THROUGH THERE, A LOT OF THEM HAVE THEIR OWN PERSONAL GOODS AND THINGS OFS THAT NATURE, AND THERE COULD BE SOME THINGS IN THERE THAT WE JUST DON'T WANT TOE HAVE IN A PUBLIC SPACE. >> FOR SURE. THERE'S SOME THINGS. THERE'S LAWS THAT PROVIDE PEOPLE WITH, YOU KNOW, THEIR RIGHTS TO CARRY CERTAIN THINKINGS. WE HAVE CCPD WILL OBVIOUSLY BE THERE FOR THE MAIN LEVEL OF SECURITY IN KEEPING ORGANIZATION WITH IT. BUT WE'LL ALSO BE CONTRACTING WITH A SECURITY FIRM BECAUSE THEY CAN DO THE WANDING. SO THEY WILL WORK ON THAT. OBVIOUSLY WE DON'T WANT ANYTHING DANGEROUS GOING INTO THIS, BUT WE WILL HAVE SECURITY THERE FOR WANDING THE PATRONS THAT COME IN AND THEN WE'LL ALSO HAVE CORPUS CHRISTI POLICE DEPARTMENT THERE AS A PRESENCE FOR THE SECURITY TEAM. >> Roy: IF THEY HAVE -- LIKE I THINK THE CORRECT TERM, SERVICE DOGS OR SERVICE ANIMAL WITH THEM, DO YOU ALLOW THEM TO ENTER WITH THE SERVICE ANIMAL. >> Chief Wade: YES. WE ALLOW THEM TO COME IN. IN FACT, LAST YEAR WE HAD A NUMBER OF FOLKS THAT BROUGHT THEM IN. WE'LL SET UP CRATES FOR SOME OF THEM THAT ARE IN THERE. WE HAVE A FEW OF THOSE ON HAND THAT WE HAVE WITH THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT OFFICE THAT WE KEEP STORED AND THEN WE'LL ALSO WORK WITH THE ANIMAL CARE SERVICES FOR OTHER ANIMALS, SO, YES, THAT IS PART OF IT. >> Roy: THAT'S WHY ANIMAL CARE SERVICES WAS ON THE LIST. I WAS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT -- >> Chief Wade: THAT'S RIGHT. THERE'S LAWS THAT -- THERE'S ALSO -- NOT PART OF THIS, BUT WHEN YOU DO EVACUATIONS AND HURRICANES AND STUFF AND YOU'RE GOING AND RESCUING PEOPLE, YOU HAVE TO BRING THEIR ANIMALS IN WITH IT, THERE'S LAWS THAT PROTECT THAT. WE DON'T WANT ANYBODY NOT TO GO IN THERE JUST BECAUSE THEY HAPPEN TO HAVE THEIR POODLE WITH THEM, THERE'S WAYS WE CAN ACCOMMODATE THAT. AND SO WE HAVE CRATES AND WE'LL WORK WITH ANIMAL CARE SERVICES ALSO. >> Roy: THANK YOU. COUNCILMA N SCOTT? >> Scott: AMANDA RODRIGUEZ, SO I WANT TO SAY, REALLY NICE THINGS ABOUT YOU, BECAUSE IF IT ALL GOES SOUTH COME MID FEBRUARY AND IT'S CHAOS, I JUST WANTED YOU TO KNOW, WE APPRECIATE YOU'RE HERE, WE'RE GLAD YOU'RE HERE, AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO YOU DOING GREAT THINGS. THAT'S JUST IN CASE I GET ANGRY IN FEBRUARY BECAUSE SOMETHING HAPPENS. HE WAS NICE THAT FIRST DAY, AT LEAST. >> Mayor Guajardo: I THINK YOU'RE SCARING HER. >> Scott: THANK YOU SO MUCH. SHE KNOWS I'M HARMLESS. I MADE A NOTE TO SAY HELLO AND THANK YOU. THE OTHER THING IS IN OUR FINANCIAL CONVERSATION EARLIER TODAY, WE ENDED THE YEAR WITH A LITTLE MORE MONEY THAN WE THOUGHT SO WE DO HAVE THE CAPACITY IF WE HAVE TO STEP THIS UP AND SPEND ADDITIONAL FUNDS, WE DO HAVE -- RIGHT, WE DO HAVE KIND OF A SAFETY NET TO DRAW FROM. >> Zanoni: RIGHT. >> Scott: SO I THOUGHT THAT WAS GOOD TO NOTE. >> Zanoni: YES, SIR. >> Scott: THE LAST THOUGHT, TELL ME AGAIN, LAST YEAR, WE HAD HOW MANY PEOPLE IN THE BIG FREEZE EVENT? >> Chief Wade: JENNIFER, HOW MANY PEOPLE? >> [OFF MIC] >> Scott: THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT. IS BEN GARZA THE SAME SIZE AS THE NATATORIUM. >> Chief Wade: IT'S CLOSE. WE LOSE A LITTLE BIT OF ROOM WITH THE FOYER. WE DON'T HAVE THAT. WE'RE TRYING TO BE AS MINDFUL WITH THESE PLACES ARE NOT SET UP FOR OVERNIGHT STAYS, BUT WE MAKE IT WORK. THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THE FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE INVOLVED WITH IT, BUT WE'RE LOOKING -- BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO BE OVERCROWDED. >> Scott: YEAH. >> Chief Wade: THAT BECOMES A MESS AND HARD TO MANAGE IN IT ITSELF, SO WE'RE LOOKINGALITY 100 AT BEN GARZA AND WE COULD PROBABLY FIT ANOTHER HUNDRED AT DEL MAR. WE'RE TRYING TO GET THESE THINGS SET UP ALREADY. WE ALREADY KNOW THE OUTLINE, WE ALREADY KNOW HOW TO PUT THE COTS IN, WE ALREADY KNOW THE NUMBER OF FOLKS THAT WE CAN GET -- AND WE'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO WASTE ANY TIME OF WHERE DO WE FIT IT. SO WE'VE ALREADY DONE THOSE WALK-THROUGHS AT BEN GARZA, WE'VE GOT TO OUTLINE THE REST OF IT OVER AT THE DEL MAR, SO IT'S JUST A PLUG AND PLAY OPERATION AS WE MOVE AND BRING COTS. >> Scott: SO THE WAY IT IS WORKS, WE START WITH BEN GARZA AND THEN AT SOME POINT, HEY, WE KNOW WHERE WE'RE HEADED AND WE NEED TO ACTIVATE DEL MAR. >> Chief Wade: EXACTLY. >> Scott: AND RTA HELPS US MOVE, SO THAT 101ST PERSON GOES TO THE DEL MAR? >> Chief Wade: YEAH. AND WHAT WE WOULD PROBABLY DO, INSTEAD OF JUST SAYING NOW WE GO SEND -- WE'D PROBABLY REDUCE THE SIZE FROM BEN GARZA, SAY, BY 25. WE HIT 100, YOU DROP THAT DOWN TO 75, AND YOU START MOVING 25 OVER THERE AND THEN YOU HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF SPACE. >> Scott: MAKES SENSE. WELL THOUGHT OUT. I MEAN, I'M JUST KIDDING. I WAS -- I WAS SO IMPRESSED BY Y'ALL'S WORK IN FEBRUARY. YOU'RE GOING TO LOVE THE PEOPLE YOU WORK WITH. >> Chief Wade: YEAH, THEY'RE AMAZING PEOPLE. I WISH WE COULD LIST EVERYBODY'S NAME THAT PARTICIPATED. AND I'LL SAY, JACE AND I WERE TALKING ABOUT IT EARLIER, AS WE SAID, DID WE HAVE COMPLAINTS FROM THE PEOPLE THAT USED IT? AND WE DIDN'T. WE HAD THANK YOUS. RIGHT? WE HAD HEARTFELT THANK YOUS. I WOULDN'T EVEN SAY IT'S A COMPLAINT, THE THINGS THAT WE HAD FROM THE INDIVIDUALS WORKING THERE, HERE'S HOW WE COULD MAKE IT BETTER. MAYBE SOME EARLIER NOTIFICATIONS FOR THEM SO THEY COULD SET UP -- BECAUSE OF WHATEVER SHIFT THEY'RE GOING TO WORK. HERE'S HOW YOU CAN MAKE IT BETTER. SO IT WAS A REALLY -- THEY DID AN AMAZING JOB. >> Scott: AND IT WAS TOP DOWN. I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SIT AND WATCH PETER AND YOU RUN A PHONE CALL WITH EVERYBODY, IT WAS IMPRESSIVE. THANK YOU. >> Chief Wade: YOU BET. COUNCILWO MAN CAMPOS? >> Campos: THANK YOU, MAYOR. AND THANK YOU, CHIEF, FOR INFORMING US ABOUT THIS -- YOU KNOW, WHAT WE DO FOR OUR, YOU KNOW, OUR POPULATION, OUR HOUSELESS POPULATION. IT WAS BROUGHT UP EARLIER, YOU KNOW, BY MARI ABOUT THE BEN GARZA GENERATOR. AGAIN, WHAT IS THE STATUS? SO IT IS -- >> Chief Wade: SO I BELIEVE Y'ALL ARE GOING TO HAVE IT -- IF MY MEMORY SERVES ME CORRECTLY, Y'ALL ARE GOING TO HAVE IT IN FRONT OF YOU TO APPROVE THE CONSTRUCTION ON, I THINK, JANUARY 27TH. >> Campos: MMM. >> Chief Wade: IS WHEN THAT WILL COME. I THINK Y'ALL -- >> Campos: YOU JUST WANT TO -- >> Chief Wade: IS HE BACK HERE? SO JANUARY 27TH I THINK Y'ALL ARE GOING TO HAVE IT NO FRONT OF YOU TO SIGN OFF ON THE WORK TO BE DONE. >> Campos: REALLY. THAT WILL BE A GOOD BIRTHDAY FOR ME, BECAUSE THAT'S MY BIRTHDAY. SO THAT WOULD BE NICE. >> Chief Wade: THERE YOU GO. >> Campos: AND WHAT IS AN MPA, I THINK THE LAST THING THAT WAS SAID ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT, THE PLANNING AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT HAS HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH DR. SCOTT OF TAMU CC REGARDING THE DEVELOPMENT OF A PROGRAM FOR MPA GRADUATE. LIKE WHO -- >> Chief Wade: THE GRADUATE STUDENTS AT TEXAS A&M CORPUS CHRISTI, TO HAVE THEM PART OF A PROGRAM, I THINK. >> Campos: IS THAT A SPECIALIZED -- >> Zanoni: YEAH, SO COUNCILWOMAN PAXSON, SHE MAY WANT TO SPEAK HERE, TOO, SHE CONNECTED US, MYSELF, DAN McGINN AND JENNIFER, WITH DR. SCOTT WHO SHE KNOWS FROM HER STUDIES THERE AND WE TALKED ABOUT INCREASING OUR STAFFING WITH INTERNS FROM THE UNIVERSITY, FROM GRADUATE LEVEL STUDENT TION. >> Campos: UH-HUH. >> Zanoni: SO DR. SCOTT IS DEVELOPING THE GOALS OF WHAT THAT PROGRAM WOULD LOOK LIKE. I THINK TO START NEXT SEMESTER, NOT THE SPRING, BUT WHEN WOULD IT BE? YEAH, LET'S HAVE JENNIFER GET THE DETAILS. THEY WORK FOR WITH THEM. >> THE INTERNSHIP PROGRAM PROBABLY WOULDN'T START UNTIL THE NEXT ACADEMIC YEAR. WE'RE WORKING ON SOME THINGS FOR OR MASTER'S OF PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION PROGRAMS, THE MPA STUDENTS, WHEN THEY GO THROUGH A PROGRAM EVALUATION, WE'RE WORKING WITH THEM ON THAT. AND THEN DR. SCOTT PUT TOGETHER A GRANT AND WE'RE COORDINATING WITH THEM ON THAT. WE FOUND SEVERAL DIFFERENT WAYS THAT WE CAN WORK TOGETHER. >> Campos: SO THESE ARE THE INTERNS, POSSIBLE INTERNS THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET TO HELP US WITH THIS -- WITH OUR EMERGENCY REFUGE -- >> THE INTERNS WOULD NOT BE INVOLVED IN THE EMERGENCY REFUGE CENTER. >> Campos: OH, THEY WON'T. OKAY. >> THEY MIGHT BE INVOLVED IN PROJECTS THAT COME OUT OF THESE NEXT STEPS OF THE COLLABORATION THAT WE'RE DEVELOPING WITH DR. SCOTT. >> Campos: WELL, THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WANTED TO FIND OUT, LIKE HOW MUCH DO WE HELP OUT THE ONES, YOU KNOW, THAT DO ARRIVE, AND THEN WE SAY, OKAY, FOR IN THE FUTURE, BECAUSE LIKE YOU SAY, IT'S JUST AN EMERGENCY. WHAT KIND OF ASSESSMENT DO WE GIVE THEM? I MEAN, SO DO WE SAY, WELL, LISTEN, YOU -- YOU KNOW, IF YOU REALLY WANT HELP, THIS IS -- LIKE DISMAS. I JUST MET WITH THEM AND I'VE BEEN VERY PLEASED WITH THEIR PROGRAM, HOW THEY CAN HOUSE PEOPLE. I THINK 50 PEOPLE. I'M JUST CURIOUS, DO THEY GET THAT KIND OF ASSESSMENT OR ARE YOU JUST, NO, TRYING TO KEEP THEM WARM. >> WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP THEM SAFE, WARM AND FED. IF SOMEBODY BRINGS UP A NEED OR A WANT OR WE OBSERVE SOMETHING, THERE'S A FEW OF US THAT ARE ABLE TO MAKE A CONNECTION OR REFER THEM TO SOMETHING. BUT WITH 150 PEOPLE COMING AND GOING OVER A COUPLE OF DAYS IN KIND OF CASE MANAGEMENT OR ONE-ON-ONE INTERACTION IS JUST NOT POSSIBLE, AND WE'RE NOT PROVIDING SERVICES, BUT IF SOMEBODY ASKS, WE TRY TO MAKE A CONNECTION, IF WE'RE ABLE TO. IT'S NOT NECESSARILY A SERVICE THAT WE'RE PROVIDING. IF WE CAN, IT'S KIND OF ICING ON TOP. >> Campos: SO YOU'RE NOT FOCUSED ON THAT? >> NO, MA'AM. >> WHAT ABOUT THE COUNT, WHEN IS THAT GOING TO OCCUR? >> JANUARY 22ND. >> Campos: OKAY. AND IT'S THE SALVATION ARMY THAT HEADS THAT? >> NO, MA'AM. IT'S THE HOMELESS ISSUES PARTNERSHIP. >> Campos: AND HOW DO WE GET AHOLD OF THEM? BECAUSE SOMEONE ASKED ME AND ALL I COULD SAY WAS WELL -- >> THEY -- I HAVE AN E-MAIL THAT WE CAN FLY HER TO -- THAT WE CAN FORWARD TO YOU, MA'AM. >> Campos: OKAY. THAT WOULD BE GREAT. I GUESS THAT'S IT FOR NOW. THANK YOU. >> Zanoni: JENNIFER, THAT'S A FLYER ON THE POINT IN TIME COUNT? >> YES, SIR. >> Zanoni: WE'LL SEND THAT TO THE ENTIRE COUNCIL. >> Mayor Guajardo: YEAH. THANK YOU, PETER. COUNCILWOMAN PAXSON HAS A QUESTION OR COMMENT. >> Paxson: THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU FOR THAT PRESENTATION, CHIEF WADE. I JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. I SEE IN THE PRESENTATION THAT BASED ON THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE, WE HAVE IDENTIFIED CRITERION FOR WHETHER IT'S SEVERE WINTER, EXTREME COLD OR JUST AN ADVISORY, BUT WHAT I DON'T SEE IS THE EXACT LINK TO THESE PARAMETERS LISTED FOR WHEN WE ACTUALLY ACTIVATE THE EMERGENCY REFUGE CENTER. WE IDENTIFY WHAT DICTATES EACH OF THOSE PARAMETERS, BUT NOT WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO ACTIVATE OUR RESPONSE. IS THAT LISTED SOMEWHERE, OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU ACTIVATE CASE BY CASE? >> Chief Wade: YES, MA'AM. SO THAT'S WHERE WE ACTUALLY ACTIVATE IT BASED ON CASE BY CASE. AGAIN, WE TRY TO LOOK AT AND SAY, WHAT HAVE THE DURATION OF IT? SO IF THEY'RE SAYING WE MAY DROP DOWN TO THAT, TO 32° FOR TWO HOURS IN THE DAY, AND IT'S IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DAY, IT COULD BE AT 11:00 A.M., AND WE'RE EXPECTING TWO HOURS, WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT THAT, SEE IF THERE'S A NEED. AGAIN, WE GO BACK AND WE TALK TO THE SHELTER. ARE THEY AT CAPACITY? IF THEY'RE NOT, THEY MAY BE THE ONES ABLE TO TAKE THE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE LOOKING FOR OVERNIGHT SHELTER OR WARMING. OUR WARMING CENTERS WILL BE OPEN DURING THAT, BUT THAT'S WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO LOOK AT ALL THE DIFFERENT FACTORS. IF WE JUST GO BY JUST THIS ONE NUMBER AND WE'RE ACTIVATING, IF IT HITS IT FOR, YOU KNOW, ONE HOUR 30 MINUTES, ARE WE OPENING IT UP FOR 24 HOURS OR WHAT HAVE YOU. SO WE TRY TO TAKE THE DIFFERENT FACTORS THAT ARE IN THERE, WE TALK TO THE TEAM, EVERYONE FROM THE CITY MANAGER'S INVOLVED TO ALMOST EVERY ONE OF THOSE AGENCIES TO TRY TO MAKE THE BEST CHOICE, AND THEN WE GET THAT INFORMATION OUT. SO WE DON'T HAVE JUST A HARD, FAST NUMBER. WE TRY TO BASE IT ON THE INFORMATION THAT'S PROVIDED, THE LOCAL SHELTERS, AND THEN WE USUALLY ARE ER ERR ON THE SIDE OF CAUTION LIKE WE DID LAST TIME. >> Paxson: WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO TO MAKE SOME MODIFICATIONS? BECAUSE AS RECENTLY AS TWO WEEKS AGO WE HAD TWO OR THREE CONSECUTIVE DAYS WHERE OVERNIGHT TEMPERATURES WERE IN THE 40s, LOW 40s AND FEELS LIKE THE MID TO LOW-30s. I REALIZE THAT THE ACTUAL TEMPERATURE THERE DOESN'T WARRANT AN ACTUAL FREEZE BASED ON THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE CRITERIA THAT YOU PRESENTED BUT OVER MULTIPLE NIGHTS THAT COULD BE SOME HAZARDOUS CONDITIONS. WHEN I REACHED OUT, THERE WAS NO PLAN TO ACTIVATE THE RESOURCES. >> YEAH. SO THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE TRY TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT AND WE TRY TO BALANCE. SO I THINK RECENTLY -- LIKE GOODSAM WILL OPEN UP AND THEY HAVEN'T BEEN FULL WITH PEOPLE UTILIZING THEIR SHELTERS. THAT IS A BATTLE EVERY CITY THAT OPENS UP AN EMERGENCY REFUGE CENTER FACES IS WHAT IS COLD. WHAT IS COLD TO ONE MAY NOT COLD TO ANOTHER. THAT IS THE CHALLENGE WE TRULY FACE. I WANT TO PUT THE REMINDER OUT THERE, CITY OPERATIONS STOP IN SOME FORM OR CAPACITY WHEN WE OPEN ONE OF THESE UP. BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A TEAM OF 100 PEOPLE THAT ARE DEDICATED TO RUNNING A SHELTER OR AN EMERGENCY REFUGE CENTER. WE ARE PULLING PEOPLE FROM THEIR JOBS AND THOSE THINGS ARE STOPPING. SO WE TRY TO HAVE SOMETHING AND WE'RE USING THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE AS OUR BASE AND WE PUT THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS OR WE PUT WHEN WE'RE GOING TO OPEN UP. LIKE WHEN WE HIT THE COLD EXTREMES AND WE OPEN IT UP. THAT'S A CHALLENGE WE'RE GOING TO FACE EVERY TIME IS WHAT'S THE TEMPERATURE. THAT'S WHY WE USE THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE, WE TRY TO PUT OUR PARTNERS TOGETHER AND WE TRY TO TALK TO OUR LOCAL SHELTERS THAT ARE HERE AND BASE IT OFF OF THAT. WE CAN SET ANYTHING WE WANT AS A CITY. IF WE WANT TO SET IT AT 60, SET IT AT 60. IF YOU SET IT AT 40, WE'RE GOING TO BE OPENING IT UP A LOT TOO. WE ARE TRYING TO GO BY WHAT WE HAVE SEEN IN THE PAST, THE PEOPLE WANTING TO USE IT. AND HAVING DONE THIS IN SOME OTHER PLACES, WHEN WE THINK INDIVIDUALS WANT TO PICK UP AND MOVE AND GO TO A COLD WEATHER EMERGENCY REFUGE CENTER, SOMETIMES THEY DON'T WANT TO WHEN IT'S 37. THEY DON'T WANT TO MOVE THEIR STUFF AND LOSE WHEREVER THEY'RE STAYING. FOR THIS YEAR, THIS IS KIND OF THE GUIDELINES WE SET. >> Paxson: SO I REALIZE THAT. I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF FACTORS THAT GO INTO PLACE. BUT YOU JUST SAID WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO SET THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. BUT THERE HAS BEEN TWO TO THREE OCCASIONS RECENTLY WHERE AT LEAST MYSELF -- AND I FEEL LIKE AT LEAST ONE OR TWO OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE REACHED OUT TO VOICE CONCERNS ON A SPECIFIC WEATHER EPISODE AND WE'RE TOLD THE CITY'S NOT DOING ANYTHING BECAUSE IT'S NOT BELOW 32 DEGREES. THAT'S A PROBLEM. WE NEED TO, IN MY OPINION, LIKE COUNCILMAN SCOTT JUST SAID, WE HAVE FOUND SOME SAVINGS IN THE BUDGET. I'M NOT SAYING THAT ALL OF THAT GOES TO THIS BUT I AM SAYING IF OUR ANSWER IS WE'RE NOT ACTIVATING A CENTER BECAUSE OF XYZ, IF ONE OF THOSE IS THAT THERE'S ALREADY RESOURCES IN PLACE, MAYBE WE CONSIDER MAKING A PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT DIRECTING TO THOSE RESOURCES. I'M NOT BEING TOLD THAT IF I'M SAYING THE FEELS LIKE IS IN THE LOW 30s FOR THE NEXT THREE DAYS AND I'M TOLD THAT OUR ACTUAL TEMPERATURE IS NOT 32 OR BELOW SO WE'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING, I'M NOT BEING TOLD WE'VE ALREADY CALLED SALVATION ARMY AND THEY'RE NOT FULL. WE'VE ALREADY DONE XYZ. THAT'S NOT BEING COMMUNICATED. WE HAVE ACCESS TO TALK AMONGST EACH OTHER AND THAT'S NOT BEING COMMUNICATED, THEN THERE NEEDS TO BE A BETTER PLAN FOR HOW WE COMMUNICATE THAT PUBLICLY. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? >> THAT MAKES SENSE. WHEN WE GET THAT, WE CAN ENSURE WE'RE TRYING TO PUSH MESSAGES OUT TO THAT VULNERABLE POPULATION THAT WE TYPICALLY SEE. IF THERE'S OTHER SHELTER SPACE AND THINGS OPEN IF WE'RE NOT OPENING ONE OURSELVES. >> Paxson: WITH THIS NEW HOMELESS COORDINATOR POSITION THAT'S BEEN HERE NOW SINCE OCTOBER, HAS THAT INDIVIDUAL MADE CONTACT IN OUR NETWORK OF SERVICE PROVIDERS? >> I'LL LET HER COME UP AND SPEAK ON THAT. >> GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS AMANDA RODRIGUEZ. I HAVE HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF WORKING WITH THE UNHOUSED POPULATION AS WELL AS COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDERS AND PROVIDERS SINCE 2012. WE ARE VERY IN CLOSE CONTACT. >> Paxson: OKAY. I'M GLAD TO HEAR THAT. AND WELCOME ABOARD. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> Paxson: MY MAIN DRIVER QUESTION IS IT LOOKS LIKE YOU ARE WORKING CLOSELY WITH THESE EMERGENCY SERVICES, WHICH IS WONDERFUL. THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT. >> ABSOLUTELY. >> Paxson: BUT PERHAPS PART OF OUR MESSAGING DEVELOPMENT STRATEGY IS WHERE YOU CAN MAKE CONTACT WITH THESE SERVICE PROVIDERS AND SAY WE MAY NOT BE STANDING UP FOR THIS WEATHER EVENT BUT HERE'S A LIST OF WHO IS, SO THEY CAN GET THAT WORD OUT. A LOT OF THESE SERVICE PROVIDERS HAVE [INDISCERNIBLE] WITH THE PEOPLE WHO NEED THIS THE MOST. MY SECOND QUESTION IS I HAVE ASKED ABOUT US MAKING CONTACT WITH A LOT OF OUR LOCAL ORGANIZATIONS THAT MAY NOT BE INVOLVED ALREADY, SUCH AS OUR CHURCHES. WE HAVE A NUMBER OF CHURCHES THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY THAT I THINK WOULD BE WILLING TO HELP FILL SOME OF THESE GAP SITUATIONS. I UNDERSTAND THERE'S A LOT OF CHALLENGES TO THAT BUT I DON'T THINK THAT THOSE CHALLENGES SHOULD BE WHY WE DON'T PICK UP THE PHONE AND ACT. WE DON'T GO MEET WITH THEM AND SAY WE HAVE A GAP HERE. CAN WE COUNT ON YOU. >> I AGREE 100%. I THINK WE'RE VERY FORTUNATE THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF STAKEHOLDERS THAT WILL REACH OUT TO ME AND SAY WE'RE READY TO SERVE. WE'RE READY TO HELP. I'M JUST SO HAPPY TO BE A PART OF A DEDICATED TEAM THAT WANTS TO SERVE OUR COMMUNITY, AS WELL AS PARTNER WITH AREA PARTNERS AND SERVE EVERYBODY. >> Paxson: CAN WE INCORPORATE THAT, GOING FORWARD FROM THIS UPDATE? A LITTLE MORE FLEXIBILITY. WE'RE LOOKING AT THESE FEELS LIKE TEMPERATURES CLOSE TO FREEZING. I THINK THE 30s. THE QUESTION WAS ASKED WHAT'S COLD TO YOU MAY NOT BE COLD TO ME. IN THE 30s, THAT'S A HAZARDOUS WINDOW. I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT WHAT OUR RESOURCES ARE FOR EXTENDED HOURS OF THAT. IF THIS CITY CAN'T PROVIDE IT, THEN I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE A STRATEGY AND MAKE CONNECTIONS WITH THESE STAKEHOLDER PARTNERS SO WE CAN BRIDGE THAT GAP. >> City Secretary: MS. PAXSON, I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT. YOUR FIVE MINUTES IS UP. I KNOW YOU CAN'T HEAR OVER THERE. >> YES, MA'AM. WE'LL LOOK INTO THAT. TO YOUR LAST POINT. >> Paxson: THANK YOU. >> Mayor Guajardo: CHIEF WADE -- AMANDA, WELCOME. I'M GOING TO MAKE MY COMMENT HERE NOW BECAUSE IT'S IN RELATION TO THIS. SO I DO BELIEVE WE DO HAVE ABSOLUTE DEDICATION IN PARTNERS. WE ALWAYS HAVE. I THINK WE MAY HAVE LEARNED A LESSON -- LAST YEAR? WHAT WAS IT, PETER? >> Zanoni: LAST WINTER. >> Mayor Guajardo: WHAT I'M REFERRING TO IS -- I HATE TO SAY THE LACK OF COMMUNICATION, BUT WE DID NOT KNOW WHAT ORGANIZATIONS -- MAYBE YOU DID. LET ME REPHRASE THAT. IT WASN'T THAT WE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT ORGANIZATIONS WERE TAKING PEOPLE IN, IT WAS WE DIDN'T KNOW WHO -- I DON'T BELIEVE WE KNEW WHO WAS TAKING IN HOW MANY. AND THAT'S CRITICAL. REMEMBER CAROLYN? WE WERE TALKING ABOUT -- OR IT ALL HAPPENED WHERE WE DIDN'T KNOW IF -- WHOEVER. I DON'T WANT TO POINT ANYBODY OUT. SO AND SO WAS GOING TO TAKE IN FIVE BODIES. IF THEY CAN TAKE IN THREE. I MEAN, I MYSELF WAS MAKING CALLS SAYING, HEY. CAN YOU TAKE -- AND SO RIGHT THERE, THERE'S A LACK OF COORDINATION. TO ME, WE NEED TO BE DOING THAT RIGHT NOW. RIGHT NOW. ARE YOU GOING TO OPEN YOUR DOORS? ARE YOU GOING TO OPEN THE DOORS OF THE CHAPEL THAT IS MAYBE ON YOUR PROPERTY? AND, IF NOT, HOW CAN YOU HELP US? OH, YOU CAN BRING US SOME FOOD. I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT IT WAS. IT WAS FOOD. BUT I THINK ALL THOSE THINGS NEED TO BE KNOWN RIGHT NOW. WE KNOW THE ORGANIZATIONS AND WE ASSUME. BUT IN THE MOMENT, HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE THERE. I KNOW Y'ALL COORDINATE WITH THEM TO SEE HOW MANY PEOPLE DO YOU HAVE. BUT IN THE CASE OF AN EMERGENCY, JUST LIKE AT HOME, YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE SOMEONE IN. IT DOESN'T MATTER IF THERE'S A BED, YOU'RE GOING TO FIGURE IT OUT. AND SO I THINK THAT WAS KEY IN THE LAST EPISODE. >> I THINK -- WE'RE CAREFUL WHERE WE GO WITH SOME OF THIS BECAUSE THEY KNOW THEIR CAPACITY AND THEY'RE NOT COMING TO US AND MAKING SOMETHING UP THAT THEY'RE NOT AT CAPACITY. AND THEN THEY TRY TO TAKE SOME MORE. WE DON'T EVER WANT TO PUSH SOMEBODY INTO A DANGEROUS LEVEL OF THEY'RE STACKING HALLWAYS. THAT'S WHERE, AS A CITY, IF WE'RE PUSHING THAT AND SOMETHING GOES WRONG BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT DESIGNED WITH SPRINKLER SYSTEMS AND EVERYTHING ELSE AND WE HAVE A CATASTROPHE, IT ONLY TAKES THAT. >> Mayor Guajardo: I'M GOING TO INTERRUPT YOU BECAUSE WHAT I'M SAYING IS ARE YOU OPENING YOUR DOORS SO THAT YOU HAVE A LIST AND YOU SAY, YEAH. IN DECEMBER OF '25 WE CALLED AND YOU SAID ABSOLUTELY. WE ARE GOING TO TAKE PEOPLE IN. HOW MANY -- OR MAYBE THEY CAN'T TELL YOU. >> MOST UNDERSTAND THEIR CAPACITY AND THEY DO EVERYTHING THEY CAN TO INCREASE THAT WHEN IT'S REALLY COLD. WE SAW THAT. AGAIN, BECAUSE I THINK THEY'RE CARING PEOPLE THAT THEY DO IT. WE TRY TO WORK WITH THEM. JACE AND JENNIFER AND AMANDA IS GOING TO BE ON THERE KNOWING WHO ARE THE ONES OPENING THE DOOR, WHERE ARE THEY AT WITH THEIR CAPACITY AND HOW CAN WE HELP THEM. IF THEY'RE GETTING READY TO BE AT CAPACITY, THAT'S ONE OF OUR TRIGGER POINTS WHERE WE OPEN UP OURS. >> Mayor Guajardo: BUT CAN WE CALL THEM NOW -- >> THEY'RE TALKING TO THEM NOW. >> Mayor Guajardo: SO THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN BEFORE THEN. >> NO, WE WERE TALKING WITH THEM BEFORE. I THINK IT'S TRYING TO -- BECAUSE WE WERE REACHING CAPACITY AND WE WERE LOOKING TO SEE WHERE WE COULD JUST GET MORE AND MORE PEOPLE. WE WERE ALREADY OPEN OVER THERE AND WE WERE REACHING OUR CAPACITY AND THEN WE HAD TO PULL THE SECONDARY EMERGENCY REFUGE CENTER. WE OPENED UP THE FEMA DOME. >> Mayor Guajardo: I WOULD STRONGLY RECOMMEND, I UNDERSTAND, BUT LIKE I SAID I WAS CALLING. SO THERE WASN'T -- THERE NEEDS TO BE THE, YES, WE ARE GOING TO TAKE PEOPLE IN. YOU WOULD ASSUME THAT. THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN LAST TIME. I'M JUST SAYING CHECK IT OFF SO YOU CAN SAY, YEAH, WE'RE COMING. THIS IS COLD AND YOUR NAME IS RIGHT HERE. >> ABSOLUTELY. WE WILL. >> Mayor Guajardo: COUNCILMAN HERNANDEZ. >> Hernandez: THANK YOU, MAYOR. YOU DIDN'T TOUCH ON THIS TOO MUCH BUT THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT OCCURRED DURING THE LAST FEBRUARY. I WOULD GO ON A REGULAR BASIS WHEN IT WAS OVER AT THE NATATORIUM. I CAN'T REMEMBER IF IT WAS JENNIFER OR ROBERT WHO PULLED SOMETHING OUT OF HIS POCKET TO BUY A MAN A PAIR OF PANTS. >> I THINK THEY BOTH PROBABLY DID. >> Hernandez: ARE WE COORDINATING WITH SOME OF THESE ASSISTANCE ORGANIZATIONS TO PROVIDE CERTAIN THINGS LIKE COATS SHOES PANTS? >> YOU WANT TO TAKE THAT? GO FOR IT. >> SO, YES. WE COORDINATE WITH DIFFERENCE ORGANIZATIONS AND IN A PINCH WE EITHER -- STAFF WILL GO OUT OF POCKET OR IF WE CAN SQUEEZE A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY ON TO A PCARD. I MIGHT HAVE JUST SET PROCUREMENT ON FIRE. THEN WE'LL GO -- >> Hernandez: THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO TRY TO AVOID IS TO TRY AND PRE-PLAN FOR STUFF. >> AND WE DO PRE-PLAN FOR IT. WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE A BOX OF MISCELLANEOUS PAIRS OF SWEAT PANTS. WE HAVE TO HAVE FEMININE HYGIENE PRODUCTS AND ADULT INCONTINENT ITEMS. WE HAVE A LIST OF ALL THOSE THINGS AND WE PRE-STOCK THOSE. >> Hernandez: INCONTINENT ITEMS. YOU MEAN LIKE DEPENDS? >> YES, SIR. >> Hernandez: ADULT DIAPERS? >> THE JOB THEY DID -- AND THIS IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT COMES WITH PREPARING IT. THEY DID PARTNER WITH THOSE VOLUNTEER ORGANIZATIONS THAT BRING THAT STUFF IN. SO MUCH SO THAT WE BROUGHT A ROLL-OFF DUMPSTER BECAUSE WE HAD TO TAKE ALL THE SOILED ITEMS. THE WET CLOTHES AND THE BLANKETS. SO THERE WAS A LARGE EXCHANGE, I THINK, OF CLOTHES. AND SOMETIMES, AGAIN, IT TAKES A LITTLE BIT, AS THAT GETS RAMPED UP. BUT THEY DID AN EXCELLENT JOB THAT WE FILLED DUMPSTERS AND BROUGHT A ROLL-UP. >> Hernandez: HAVE YOU ASSIGNED THOSE THINGS ALREADY? >> YES, SIR. >> Hernandez: THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET ACROSS. ASSIGN THESE THINGS AHEAD OF TIME SO THEY KNOW WHAT THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR. YOU KNOW, YOU OBVIOUSLY HAVE DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS THAT SPECIALIZE IN DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THE PURPLE DOOR, THE DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS. I'M ASSUMING THEY'RE ALL PARTICIPATING? WHO'S NOT PARTICIPATING? >> I THINK, AGAIN, WHEN WE SAY "PARTICIPATING," IN WHAT FACTION? WE TALKED ABOUT OUR MAIN THING IS TO PROVIDE WARMTH, SECURITY, AND FOOD. WE'RE NOT BRINGING IN A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT SERVICES ALL OVER TO PROVIDE THINGS. BUT WE ARE WORKING WITH FOLKS LIKE WE DID LAST TIME FOR EXTRA CLOTHES AND GIVING THEM THE ITEMS. BUT THE MORE INDIVIDUALS, THE BIGGER SPACE WE'VE GOT TO HAVE. I THINK THEY'VE GOT ASSIGNMENTS THAT GO DOWN THE RANGE WITH IT. SO IT DEPENDS ON WHAT CAPACITY YOU'RE LOOKING TO BRING -- >> Hernandez: NO. I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT OFFERING SERVICES, I'M TALKING ABOUT WHEN YOU'RE THERE PEOPLE SHOW UP WITHOUT CLOTHES. PEOPLE SHOW UP WITHOUT SHOES. I SEE GUYS -- I DON'T KNOW HOMELESS HOUSELESS UNHOUSED WITHOUT DOMICILE. >> THE NAME DOESN'T CHANGE -- >> Hernandez: IT DOESN'T CHANGE THE SITUATION BUT I SEE THEM WALKING DOWN THE STREET WITH ONE SHOE ON OR NO SOCKS. YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE INDIVIDUALS SHOW UP WITH NOTHING. >> WE PROVIDED THAT LAST TIME. >> Hernandez: I'M JUST SAYING PREPARE FOR IT. THAT'S NOT YOUR REASON FOR BEING THERE BUT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A SITUATION WHERE THIS GUY IS GOING TO BE WALKING AROUND WITH TORN PANTS. IT'S NOT APPROPRIATE. THE OTHER SIDE IS PEOPLE COME IN WITH THEIR ANIMALS TOO. OUR ANIMAL CARE SERVICES IS THERE TO PROVIDE POSSIBLE RABIES SHOTS. YOU KNOW, I'M JUST SAYING YOU'RE PUTTING PEOPLE IN A SITUATION WHERE THEY'RE THERE WITH THESE ANIMALS. YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALLOWING THIS, RIGHT? WE'RE NOT TELLING THEM TO LEAVE THE DOG OUTSIDE. WE'RE BRINGING THEM? >> I UNDERSTAND. >> Hernandez: SO YOU CREATE A SITUATION WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO ADDRESS THAT. I'M NOT SAYING THAT THIS IS OUR MISSION TO DO, I'M JUST SAYING THAT IF YOU HAVE THIS SCENARIO, YOU'RE PUTTING PEOPLE IN THE SITUATION WHERE NOT EVERYBODY IS THERE WITH THEIR DOG AND SOMEBODY HAS THEIR DOG THERE, YOU'RE PUTTING THEM IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO THAT DOG. YOU HAVE THAT SITUATION. WE'RE CREATING THAT SITUATION. SO I'M NOT SAYING THAT WE NEED TO DO IT BUT JUST HAVE SOMEBODY FROM ANIMAL CARE SERVICES THERE. >> WELL, ANIMAL CARE SERVICES IS PART OF THAT. >> Hernandez: I SEE THEM ON THE LIST. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR. >> WE DIDN'T LIST OUT EVERYTHING THAT EVERYBODY'S RESPONSIBLE FOR BUT WE WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT IT TAKES MANY PARTNERS TO MAKE THIS OPERATION WORK. AND WE TRY TO THINK THROUGH EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN. AND THESE ARE ALL GOOD POINTS. BUT WE HAVE ANIMAL CARE SERVICES WHERE IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT THEY CAN DO WHILE THEY'RE THERE -- BECAUSE, AGAIN, NOT ALL THE ANIMALS -- IF 50 PEOPLE SHOW UP WITH ANIMALS, WE DON'T HAVE THE CRATES. ANIMAL CARE SERVICES AND HUMANE SOCIETY IS GOING TO HAVE TO WORK WITH US. THEY'RE ONE OF THE PARTNERS WE COORDINATE WITH. WE JUST DON'T HAVE THE FULL CHECKLIST OF EVERYTHING. >> Hernandez: I'M GOING BY WHAT I SAW WHEN I GOT THERE AND SOME OF THE CHALLENGES I SAW YOUR STAFF -- PETER, I SAW YOU GUYS HAVING CHALLENGES WITH. >> THERE ARE MANY CHALLENGES. >> Hernandez: WE'RE ASKING THEM TO SPEND OVERTIME AND PARTICIPATE IN THIS. THEY SHOULDN'T BE ALSO PUTTING THEIR HAND IN THEIR POCKET TO PAY FOR STUFF AS WELL. >> DO NOT DISAGREE. >> Hernandez: I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE THINKING ABOUT THE WHOLE THING THOROUGHLY AND NOT PUTTING PEOPLE IN BAD SPOTS. >> YES, SIR. ABSOLUTELY. >> Hernandez: THANK YOU. >> Mayor Guajardo: COUNCILMAN CANTU. >> Cantu: THANK YOU, MAYOR. MY OPINION, I DON'T THINK DOGS, ANIMALS IS A BIG ISSUE. I THINK I SAW MAYBE TWO, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN. I COULD BE WRONG, GIL -- >> [OFF MIC] >> Cantu: I SAW TWO. I DON'T THINK IT WAS A BIG ISSUE. USUALLY THOSE ANIMALS ARE PRETTY BEHAVED WITH THEIR OWNER. THANK YOU, CHIEF FOR WHAT YOU'RE DOING AND THANK YOU, GUYS FOR EVERYTHING. HAVE YOU GUYS DONE A COUNT LATELY FOR HOW MANY HOUSELESS MEMBERS OF THIS COMMUNITY WE HAVE RIGHT NOW? >> SO WE HAVE LAST YEAR'S NUMBERS. THE 2025 -- WELL, THE 2025 NUMBERS. GIVE ME A MINUTE. THANK YOU. SO THE 2025 NUMBERS HAD UNSHELTERED AT 431. AND SHELTERED AT 388. AND THAT WAS IN JANUARY OF 2025. AND THAT COUNT ACTUALLY TOOK PLACE DURING ONE OF THE EMERGENCY REFUGE CENTER EVENTS. >> Cantu: GOTCHA. YOU THINK THESE NUMBERS ARE PRETTY ACCURATE? >> MAYBE. >> Cantu: MAYBE? >> SO YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER IT'S A POINT-IN-TIME COUNT. WE ALL GO IN ONE DAY AND YOU COUNT EVERYBODY. IT WAS A REALLY COLD DAY. ON THE OTHER HAND, WE HAD EMERGENCY REFUGE CENTERS OPEN AND WE COULD CATCH PEOPLE. IT DEPENDS ON THE QUALITY OF VOLUNTEERS AND WHETHER OR NOT YOU CAN FIND FOLKS. THE POINT IN TIME COUNT IS NOTORIOUSLY INACCURATE AND CAN SWING FROM YEAR TO YEAR . OUR PIT COUNT WILL SHOW A DRAMATIC INCREASE IN INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE UNSHELTERED. BUT THAT SPEAKS TO OUR PIT COUNT GETTING A LITTLE BIT BETTER. I STILL WOULDN'T CALL IT ACCURATE. WE'RE PRETTY CLOSE. I THINK WE'RE STILL -- THIS YEAR WE'RE PROBABLY A LITTLE SHY. LAST YEAR WE WERE PROBABLY CLOSER. BUT THE DATA VALIDITY FROM LAST YEAR -- >> Cantu: ABOUT A THOUSAND PEOPLE THAT ARE UNHOUSED IN THIS COMMUNITY? >> MORE OR LESS. >> Cantu: HOW MANY SHELTERS DO WE HAVE WITH BEDS? >> THAT DEPENDS. I CAN'T GIVE YOU THAT COUNT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT SHELTERS WOULD INCLUDE GOOD SAMARITAN, CORPUS CHRISTI HOPE HOUSE, THE PURPLE DOOR, SALVATION ARMY. METRO MINISTRIES, RUSTIC HOUSE RAINBOW HOUSE. GOOD SAMARITAN. BUT THEY ALL SERVE DIFFERENT POPULATIONS. SOME ARE EMERGENCY. SOME ARE TRANSITIONAL. MOTHER TERESA'S MEN'S TRANSITIONAL. I DON'T HAVE THE COUNT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. I'M SORRY. >> Cantu: IS THERE A NEED FOR ANOTHER SHELTER? >> WHAT KIND? YES. MOST LIKELY. I MEAN, YES. >> Cantu: SOMEBODY REACHED OUT TO ME AND WANTED TO DO A SHELTER BUT THEIR ISSUE WAS ZONING. IS THERE A SPECIAL ZONING FOR SHELTERS? >> YES. AND I BELIEVE THERE WAS ALSO SOME CHANGES TO STATE LAW OR RECOMMENDED CHANGES TO STATE LAW. BUT MORE THAN THE ZONING, WE HAVE A NMBE PROBLEM. WE HAVE LOOKED AT THIS AS DOING A LOW-BARRIER SHELTER. BUT WE HAVE A SERIOUS NOT IN MY BACKYARD PROBLEM. WE COULDN'T COME UP WITH THE MONEY TO OPERATE YEAR AFTER YEAR. TO GIVE IT TO A LOCAL NONPROFIT, THEY HAD TO TAKE IT FROM THEIR EXISTING OPERATIONS OR GROW THE POT AND COME UP WITH OPERATING MONEY. TO DO IT ON THE SCALE AND WITH ANY SORT OF SERVICES, YOU DON'T GET THAT DONE FOR LESS THAN $2 MILLION A YEAR FOR WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. >> Cantu: WHEN I'M DRIVING UPTOWN OR DOWNTOWN THERE'S A LOT OF HOMELESS PEOPLE IN FRONT OF BUSINESSES CAMPING OUT. WHAT'S THE STORY BEHIND THE BRIDGE ON CROSSTOWN WHERE THEY USED TO BE AT AND THEN THEY FENCED IT AROUND. I THINK THAT WAS A PRETTY GOOD LOCATION FOR THEM. THEY ALL STAYED THERE. THEN GOING TO THE SMALL BUSINESSES AND CAMPING OUT. >> SO IT'S AGAINST STATE LAW TO CAMP ON CITY PROPERTY OR GOVERNMENT PROPERTY THAT IS NOT DESIGNATED FOR CAMPING. THAT'S STATE LAW. SO CAMPING THERE WAS ILLEGAL. TWO, YOU HAD SOME DRUG TRAFFIC GOING THROUGH THERE AND IT WASN'T ALWAYS SAFE CONDITIONS. IT WAS CONVENIENT FOR SERVICE PROVIDERS BECAUSE WHEN YOU WERE LOOKING FOR SOMEBODY, YOU HAD A REALLY GOOD PLACE TO START. AND THEY OFTEN FELT SAFE BECAUSE THEY WERE TOGETHER AND NOT SPREAD OUT AND THEY HAD SAFETY IN NUMBERS. BUT IT WASN'T ALWAYS NECESSARILY SAFE. THERE WAS ALSO SOME VIOLENT CRIME THAT HAPPENED THROUGH THERE. PLUS, IT'S NOT ALLOWED THERE. I'M NOT GIVING A PLUS OR A MINUS OR PRO OR CON ABOUT THAT LOCATION. SOME OF THAT IS CITY AND SOME OF IT'S TxDOT. BUT I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. >> Cantu: IT SEEMED LIKE IT WAS GOOD FOR ALL OF THEM TO BE IN ONE LOCATION. I DIDN'T REALLY SEE THAT MANY TENTS OVER THERE. BUT I GET IT. >> BUT YOU ALSO DIDN'T SEE ANY SORT OF HYGIENE STATIONS, WHICH IS PROBLEMATIC. IF IT WERE AN ACTUALLY SANCTIONED SHELTERING SITE OF SOME SORT, THEN HYGIENE NEEDS TO BE PROVIDED FOR. >> Cantu: YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING. APPRECIATE IT. >> Mayor Guajardo: COUNCILWOMAN CAMPOS. >> Campos: THANK YOU, MAYOR. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THE MESSAGE GETS OUT. THAT WE HAVE THE OFFICIAL WHEN WE, AS A CITY, BECOME A RESCUE CENTER. BUT LIKE WE'VE HEARD HERE THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S COLD. LIKE, FOR ME, 40, 50 IS COLD FOR ME. BUT I THINK, AGAIN, WE DO NEED TO DO A BETTER JOB TO SAY, YOU KNOW LISTEN. IT IS COLD AND WE SEE THE HOUSELESS OUT THERE. BUT THERE IS ROOM. I MEAN, THAT'S THE MAIN THING. IT'S THEIR CHOICE. BUT WE NEED TO DO A BETTER JOB AT MAKING SURE THAT, LISTEN, WE'VE GOT BEDS AVAILABLE. I DON'T KNOW HOW WE CAN DO THAT BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT WE ARE TAKING CARE OF EACH OTHER AND THAT THAT MESSAGE DOES NOT GET LOST. >> FOR SURE. I THINK WE CAN WORK ON SOME WAYS ALWAYS TO IMPROVE COMMUNICATION. THAT ENDS UP BEING THE NUMBER ONE THING. AND MOST OPERATIONS, IT'S COMMUNICATION. THERE'S ALWAYS SOMETHING WE CAN IMPROVE AND WE'LL BE GLAD TO LOOK AT THAT AND SEE HOW TO IMPROVE. . >> Campos: THAT WOULD BE GREAT. THANK YOU. >> Mayor Guajardo: COUNCILMAN ROY. DO YOU REMEMBER? >> Roy: NO. >> Mayor Guajardo: WE'RE GOING TO COME BACK TO HIM. >> Vaughn: THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. I THINK LESSONS WERE LEARNED FROM THE LAST TIME. SOUNDS TO ME LIKE YOU'VE GOT A REALLY GOOD PLAN AND ALL WE CAN DO IS HOPE AND PRAY THAT YOU DO. I'M SURE IF YOU RUN INTO SOMETHING, YOU'LL CHANGE IT AS YOU GO. THEY HAVE ASKED A LOT OF QUESTIONS BUT I THINK Y'ALL HAVE COVERED EVERYTHING. THANKS. >> YOU'RE WELCOME. AGAIN, I'M NOT GOING TO GIVE YOU THE ILLUSION THAT WE'RE GOING TO OPEN ONE UP AND IT'S GOING TO BE PERFECT. IT IS A CHALLENGE BUT THIS TEAM IS GREAT AND DEDICATED AND THEY ADAPT, JUST LIKE THEY DID LAST TIME. THEY WILL DEFINITELY DO IT AGAIN TO HAVE SUCCESS. YOU BET. THANK YOU. >> Mayor Guajardo: COUNCILMAN ROY. >> Roy: I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. YOU KNOW, I THINK WE DID LEARN A LOT FROM THE LAST TIME WE DID THIS. I KNOW THERE ARE SOME GREAT ORGANIZATIONS OUT THERE THAT ARE TRYING TO HELP ALSO. SO I THINK THE COORDINATION EFFORTS AND, YOU KNOW, LAST YEAR I KNOW THERE WERE SOME CLOTHES AND SOME OTHER THINGS THAT ONE OF THE VENDORS WAS TRYING TO GET AND THEY COULDN'T GET AND IT WAS FRUSTRATING. BUT IF EVERYBODY WORKS TOGETHER I KNOW IT'S GOING TO BE DEEPLY APPRECIATED OUT IN THE COMMUNITY. THANK YOU. >> Mayor Guajardo: CHIEF WADE, THANK YOU SO MUCH. WE APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION. OUR LAST ITEM OF THE DAY IS ITEM NO. 35 AND THAT IS THE HILLIARD CENTER QUARTERLY UPDATE PRESENTED BY DANIEL MELISE, OVG GENERAL MANAGER. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. THANKS FOR HEARING US TODAY. OBVIOUSLY, I'LL BE JOINED ALSO BY OUR GM OF HOSPITALITY, MELANIE, WHO WILL BE HELPING US WITH THE PRESENTATION. DANIEL MELISE. I FEEL LIKE I HAVE BEEN HERE QUITE A FEW TIMES OVER THE LAST FEW MONTHS. IT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO BE BACK AND SEE EVERYBODY'S FACES. JUST WANTED TO START OFF WITH SHARING OUR LEADERSHIP GROUP. I KNOW YOU MET MOST OF THOSE OVER THE LAST FEW MONTHS FROM THE OVG SIDE AS WELL AS THE HOSPITALITY SIDE. CLAUDIA OLIVERA IS HERE WITH ME AND, AGAIN, AS I SAID, GENERAL MANAGER OF HOSPITALITY, MELANIE GRANADO. ORG CHART. A COUPLE NEW FACES ON THERE. I WANT TO POINT OUT OUR NEW DIRECTOR OF FINANCE, CAROL SCHMIDT COMES WITH PLENTY OF EXPERIENCE IN THE ENTERTAINMENT AND FACILITY REALM. PREVIOUSLY WITH ASM GLOBAL AND A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT FACILITIES. ALSO WORKED FOR LIVE NATION ON THEIR FINANCE, AS WELL AS HOUSTON SPORTS AUTHORITY, WORKING ON SOME EVENTS THEY HAD BEFORE SHE CAME TO US. REALLY EXCITED TO HAVE HER. A LOT OF EXPERIENCE AND THERE ARE ALREADY SOME CHANGES ON THE FINANCE SIDE TO HELP US BE MORE STREAMLINED AND EFFICIENT. ALSO DIRECTOR OF EVENTS, RYAN FINK FROM TALLAHASSEE, FLORIDA. HE HAS BEEN IN THE INDUSTRY FOR ABOUT TEN IN EVENT MANAGEMENT IN A FEW DIFFERENT AREAS. MOST RECENTLY, AGAIN, IN A FACILITY SIMILAR TO THE HILLIARD CENTER IN WHICH IT HAS AN ARENA PLUS SOME AUXILIARY CONVENTION SPACE. DEFINITELY HAS THE ABILITY TO HANDLE MULTIPLE EVENTS GOING ON AT THE SAME TIME. FIRST WANT TO POINT OUT A FEW OF OUR HIGHLIGHTS FROM THE STATE OF TOURISM GALA. FIRST, SAMMY RAMON WAS RECOGNIZED AS A FINALIST FOR THE SALES DESTINATION PERSON OF THE YEAR FOR PROMOTING CORPUS CHRISTI AS A PREMIER DESTINATION FOR MEETINGS, CONVENTIONS, AND TRAVEL. JEFF WAS A FINALIST FOR THE TOURISM ACTIVISM AWARD WHICH HONORS OUTSTANDING CONTRIBUTIONS IN STRENGTHENING THE TOURISM INDUSTRY. AND FINALLY, THE HILLIARD CENTER WAS A FINALIST FOR ATTRACTION OF THE YEAR. IT HIGHLIGHTS THE DEDICATION OF THE TEAM AND THE FACILITY'S GROWING ROLE IN POSITIONING CORPUS CHRISTI AS A LEADING DESTINATION FOR ENTERTAINMENT AND EVENTS. SOME OF THE MAJOR EVENTS AND HIGHLIGHTS THAT WE'VE HAD OVER THE LAST FEW MONTHS. OBVIOUSLY, CORPUS CHRISTI COMIC-CON OVER THE SUMMER. WE HAD ABOUT 10,000 PEOPLE OVER THE COURSE OF THE WEEK COME THROUGH THE FACILITY. WWE SUPER SHOW WAS A SOLD-OUT SHOW. ABOUT 7700 PEOPLE IN THE BUILDING. OUR ANNUAL HOME AND GARDEN SHOW AS WELL AS THE APACHE DRIVE VETERANS POW WOW. BOTH EVENTS CAME BACK AGAIN THIS YEAR AND WERE VERY SUCCESSFUL. A BIG PORTION OF OUR LAST FEW MONTHS WAS THE TRANSITION OF THE NAMING RIGHTS. THERE'S BEEN HUNDREDS OF DIFFERENT AREAS WHERE YOU'LL SEE THE CHANGE FROM AMERICAN BANK CENTER TO HILLIARD CENTER. I WOULD BE REMISS TO SHOUT OUT OUR DIRECTOR OF MARKETING, DIANA AND TRAVIS. THEY SPENT MANY HOURS TIRELESSLY WALKING THROUGH THE FACILITY, WALKING THE EXTERIOR OF THE FACILITY, LOOKING AT THE DIFFERENT AREAS OF THE GROUNDS THAT HAD THE NAME ON THERE. THEY WORKED REALLY WELL WITH SOME OF THE CITY STAFF ON IDENTIFYING SOME OF THE TxDOT SIGNS THAT ARE OUT THERE SO THAT WAY WE CAN GET SOME OF THOSE THINGS ON THE ROTATION TO GET CHANGED. THEY SPENT A TON OF TIME OVER THE LAST FEW MONTHS. AND THEN THE IMPLEMENTATION WAS ABOUT A 30-DAY WINDOW FOR US TO GET ALL OF THOSE SIGNS CHANGED OUT. AND THEY HIT THE TIMELINE THEY N NEEDED TO HIT. A STRONG EFFORT BY OUR MARKETING TEAM AND GLOBAL PARTNERSHIP TEAM TO MAKE SURE WE GOT ALL OF THOSE AREAS, WHETHER IT BE THE DIFFERENT SIGNS FOR THE ADMINISTRATION OFFICES, THE DIFFERENT DIGITAL SCREENS YOU SEE OUT THERE. THERE'S PROBABLY 60 DIFFERENT DIGITAL SCREENS IN FOUR DIFFERENT AREAS THAT YOU HAVE TO MAKE SURE YOU'RE KEEPING AN EYE OUT FOR. THEY DID A GOOD JOB HITTING EVERYTHING AND KNOCK ON WOOD WE HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING COME UP RECENTLY THAT HAD THE FORMER NAME ON THERE. AT THIS POINT I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO MELANIE TO TALK ABOUT SOME OF OUR HIGHLIGHTS IN HOSPITALITY. >> HELLO, COUNCIL. I'M MELANIE, I'M THE GENERAL MANAGER OF HOSPITALITY, ALONG WITH MY ASSISTANT GM WHO IS BACK THERE, NICK, WHO IS A TALENTED CULINARIAN. WE RUN CONCESSIONS AND CATERING. WE HAVE AN AWESOME TEAM OF NINE FULL-TIME MANAGERS THAT RUN THAT. ALL LOCAL . SOME OF OUR HOSPITALITY HIGHLIGHTS, WE REALLY FOCUSED THIS QUARTER AND REALLY THIS YEAR ON COMMUNITY PARTNERSHIPS. GETTING LOCAL. WE HEARD YOU, COUNCIL, AND WE HEARD THE COMMUNITY. YOU WANT LOCAL AND WE ARE WORKING THAT WAY. SO WE HAVE OUR COMMUNITY FOOD VENDOR INCUBATOR PILOT PROGRAM. WE HAD AN OPEN CALL FOR SMALL BUSINESSES THAT WANT TO BE IN THE ARENA. THAT OPENED UP FROM OCTOBER 15 THROUGH NOVEMBER 1. WE HAD 33 APPLICANTS AND OF THOSE WE HAD 14 QUALIFIED APPLICANTS. THIS PAST WEEK NICK AND I HELD AN INFORMATIONAL SESSION FOR THOSE 14 LOCAL VENDORS TO COME IN AND SEE THE SPACE, UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT MEANS TO COME IN AND SERVE FOOD IN AN ARENA. THAT WAS GREAT. THE ENERGY AROUND THIS PROGRAM HAS BEEN REALLY GREAT AND THE FEEDBACK WE'RE GETTING IS AWESOME. OF THAT -- SO THOSE 14 CAME IN AND NOW WE HAVE A SELECTION COMMITTEE OF HOSPITALITY COMMUNITY MEMBERS. AND THE SCORING TIMELINE IS OPENING ON THURSDAY. WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND SEND OUT THOSE APPLICATIONS FOR A BLIND SCORING PROCESS. AND THEN THEY WILL CHOOSE OUR TWO VENDORS THAT ARE COMING IN, JANUARY TO LATE JUNE 2026. AND THEN THE SECOND PART OF 2026 WE'LL GET A SECOND VENDOR IN. THERE WERE SOME REQUIREMENTS. THEY HAD TO BE CORPUS CHRISTI LOCAL, HAVE CURRENT HEALTH CERTIFICATES, INSURANCE, AND NOT HAVE A BRICK AND MORTAR. THIS IS MEANT TO BE A LAUNCHPAD FOR A SMALL BUSINESS. SO WE'RE REALLY EXCITED. HOPEFULLY THIS GIVES THEM THAT LANDING PAD TO GO TO THE NEXT STEP. WE ESTABLISHED OUR PARTNERSHIP WITH DEL MAR COLLEGE HOSPITALITY AND CULINARY INSTITUTE. WE HOPE TO BUILD A WORKFORCE OF HOSPITALITY HERE. SO WE ONBOARDED OUR FIRST, TERRENCE BROOKS. HE WAS AWESOME. HE WAS HERE THIS FALL WITH US LEARNING. HE'S ALSO A VETERAN AND IT'S BEEN GREAT HAVING HIM ON OUR TEAM. WE HAVE SIX OVG PAID INTERNSHIPS OPEN TO DEL MAR STUDENTS FOR SPRING 2026. APPLICATIONS ARE OPEN NOW AND WE HOPE TO BRING THOSE SIX IN. WE HAVE TWO RIGHT NOW SO IF YOU KNOW ANYONE FOR WHO GOES TO DEL MAR, WE'RE LOOKING FOR DEL MAR STUDENTS. WE ONBOARDED OUR TWO LOCAL VENDORS FOR FACILITY-WIDE CATERING. WE HAVE JALAPENO SALSA AND McNABB MICRO FARMS. WE HAVE USED THEIR MICROGREENS ON EVERYTHING FROM A THOUSAND PLATED LUNCH. IF YOU STAYED AT THE CITY, YOU HAD LOCAL MICROGREENS ON YOUR PLATE. WE HEARD THE COMMUNITY AND WE HEARD YOU, COUNCIL. IF YOU WANT LOCAL ON THE CONVENTION CENTER SIDE, THAT IS NEAR AND DEAR TO MY HEART. WE ARE GOING THAT WAY. SO WORKING ON THAT. THEN WE HAVE OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS AND MAINTENANCE. WHEN IT COMES TO THE KITCHEN, WE WANT TO BE EFFICIENT. WE HAVE PREVENTIVE MAINTENANCE PLANS THAT ARE WORKING. WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE ABLE TO PROVIDE THE BEST FOOD SERVICE POSSIBLE. WE HAVE NEW OVENS. WE HAVE HIGH-CAPACITY OVENS THAT REPLACED SOME OLDER NON-WORKING EQUIPMENT. OUR WALK-IN COOLERS AND FREEZERS. OUR ARENA COOLER RENOVATION HAPPENED THIS SUMMER DURING SOME SLOW TIME, WE GOT THOSE DONE. AND ICE MACHINE REPLACEMENTS. SOME OF THOSE ICE MACHINES WERE 20 TO 30 YEARS OLD. THEY WERE INEFFICIENT. THEY WERE GETTING MAINTENANCED SO OFTEN, IT WAS REALLY IMPORTANT. SO WE MADE THAT CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT. AND LASTLY, MOST IMPORTANTLY, SAFETY AND CLEANLINESS. OUR SHORELINE MARKET HEALTH INSPECTION JUST GOT DONE. WE HAD A SCORE OF 100, NO DEMERITS. OUR CATERING MAIN KITCHEN ALSO GOT A HEALTH INSPECTION, 100, NO DEMERITS. BUT THAT IS ALL OF MY HOSPITALITY UPDATES. THANK YOU. >> THANKS, MELANIE. SO, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT SOME OF THE PREVIOUS SUCCESSES WE HAVE HAD AND NOW WE ARE GOING TO TALK ABOUT, HOPEFULLY, OUR FUTURE SUCCESSES. KICKED OFF THE CORPUS CHRISTI ICE RACE SEASON THIS YEAR. THAT TEAM HAS DONE A GREAT JOB IN RECREATING HOW THEY'RE MARKETING. THAT TEAM AND DRIVING ATTENDANCE TO THE FACILITY . I THINK THEY HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB SO FAR AND WE HAVE SEEN A SPIKE NOT ONLY IN ATTENDANCE, IN PAID ATTENDANCE, BUT ALSO IN SOME OF OUR FOOD AND BEVERAGE NUMBERS. IT'S GREAT TO SEE THE COMMUNITY RALLY AROUND THAT TEAM AND THEY'RE REALLY STARTING TO SHOW UP FOR IT AND IT'S EXCITING FOR US BECAUSE IT'S CHANGED THE ENERGY OF WHAT THAT TEAM PRESENTS TO THE FACILITY AND WHAT IT PRESENTS TO THE COMMUNITY. WE HAD OUR ANNUAL DISNEY ON ICE SHOW IN NOVEMBER. WE ANNOUNCED PARKER McCOLLUM. HARLEM GLOBETROTTERS ARE JUST SOME OF THE ACTS. THE NATE BARGATZE SHOW. HE WAS HERE A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO. DID REALLY STRONG AND WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO ANOTHER SUCCESSFUL EVENT THERE. THE CONVENTION CENTER AND AUDITORIUM BUSINESS. OBVIOUSLY, THIS HAS BEEN DEFINITELY PICKING UP FOR US. WE ARE NOW IN OUR THIRD SEASON OF THE BROADWAY SERIES, WHICH HAS DONE GREAT. WE PARTNER WITH VCC ON THAT EVERY YEAR, AS WELL AS NEDERLANDER MARKETING. WE HAD OUR FIRST BROADWAY SHOW WITH TINA AND WE'VE GOT HADESTOWN AND MRS. DOUBTFIRE. WE'RE INVITING THE SAFARI CLUB BACK AS WELL AS TEXAS HOSA. WHICH IS THE BIGGEST CITYWIDE CONFERENCE WE DO AT THE HILLIARD CENTER. WE HAVE SIGNED THEM THROUGH 2028 WITH POTENTIAL TO GO THROUGH 2030. WE ALSO SIGNED ON FOR THE TEXAS DEMOCRATS. THEY'LL BE HERE NEXT YEAR AS WELL. LASTLY, LOOKING AT VISITOR TRENDS OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS, 2023, OUR FIRST FISCAL YEAR FROM JULY TO SEPTEMBER WE SAW 72,000. 2024 AND 2025, BOTH WAY ABOVE THOSE NUMBERS. I THINK WE'RE LOOKING AT PROBABLY FROM 2023 TO 2025, ABOUT A 30% INCREASE IN ATTENDANCE AT THE FACILITY OVER THE THREE-MONTH PERIOD. OBVIOUSLY DRAWING PEOPLE INTO THE BUILDING -- SO WE'RE DRIVING THAT TRAFFIC TO THE DOWNTOWN AREA . WITH THAT, I WILL OPEN IT UP TO ANY QUESTIONS. >> Mayor Guajardo: COUNCILMAN CANTU. >> Cantu: FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR THE REPORT. IT WAS REALLY GOOD. AND THE LUNCH WAS AMAZING. JUST SAYING. THE MEAT WAS GREAT. >> THAT WAS 100% OUR CULINARY TEAM. THAT'S MELANIE, NICK, AND THEIR GROUP. AGAIN, THEY HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB OF REVAMPING WHAT OUR FOOD AND BEVERAGE OPERATION IS. THAT'S GREAT TO HEAR. >> Cantu: ME AND MARK ATE ALL THE BUTTER. IT WAS GOOD. >> GLAD TO HEAR IT. >> Cantu: I'VE GOT ONE CONCERN. I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO THE ACCIDENT THAT HAPPENED OVER THERE BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY LEGAL STUFF GOING ON. MY QUESTION IS DOES OVG 360 OR THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI HAVE A WORK SAFETY PROGRAM THERE AT THE CENTER? I HEARD WE DO NOT HAVE ANYTHING IN PLACE. AND IF WE DO NOT HAVE ANYTHING IN PLACE, WE NEED TO FIX THAT BECAUSE WE'RE PUTTING THE CITY IN LIABILITY, YOU KNOW. >> WE DO HAVE SAFETY MEASURES IN PLACE AND WE HAVE MANY RESOURCES ON OUR INTRANET THAT WE HAVE ACCESS TO. OBVIOUSLY, THIS ACCIDENT BROUGHT TO LIGHT SOME THINGS WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE'RE FOCUSING MORE ON. VERY, VERY UNFORTUNATE ACCIDENT THAT HAPPENED AND WE UNDERSTOOD THAT AND IMMEDIATELY WE'VE KIND OF STARTED TO REVAMP SOME OF THOSE PROCESSES THAT WE HAVE. >> Cantu: ARE WE WORKING ON THAT? ARE WE GETTING WITH A CONSULTANT, SOMEBODY TO GO OVER TO THE CITY-OWNED VENUES TO GO OVER EVERYTHING AND SEE WHAT WE NEED TO FIX? >> THOSE WALK THROUGHS HAVE ALREADY TAKEN PLACE, YES. >> Cantu: IT'S GETTING WORKED ON NOW? >> WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF EVALUATING THAT WITH A CONSULTANT. >> Zanoni: AND WE MET WITH THAT CONSULTANT AND ONE OF THEIR CORPORATE SAFETY EXPERTS. >> Cantu: SOUNDS GOOD. THANK YOU. >> Mayor Guajardo: COUNCILMAN ROY. >> Roy: SO I NOTICED ON THE LAST SLIDE. DO YOU PROJECT -- BECAUSE I THINK THAT WAS SEPTEMBER. >> JULY TO SEPTEMBER, YES, SIR. >> Roy: YOU'VE REALLY GOT SOME TIME BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR. DO YOU THINK YOU'RE GOING TO SURPASS LAST YEAR'S NUMBERS? >> THAT WAS JUST A COMPARISON YEAR OVER YEAR FOR THE SAME TIME-FRAME. THAT WAS JULY TO SEPTEMBER, 2023 TO 2025. >> Roy: 5,000 DIFFERENCE ISN'T THAT MUCH. >> BUT IT'S ALMOST A 28,000 FROM '23 TO '24 AND SO WE DROPPED OFF A LITTLE BIT BUT STILL SIGNIFICANT OVER THE YEAR ONE OF OUR OPERATION. >> Roy: NO, THAT'S GOOD. YEAH, I WAS JUST WONDERING. I WAS LOOKING. SO IT'S Q3. YOU COMPARED Q3 FOR EACH ONE? >> CORRECT. >> Roy: IN RELATIONSHIP TO DECEMBER, IS DECEMBER -- BECAUSE OF THE HOLIDAYS AND THE ICE RAYS AND EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON, IS THAT USUALLY A PRETTY ROBUST MONTH? >> IT USUALLY IS A PRETTY BUSY MONTH FOR US, ESPECIALLY WITH A LOT OF THE HOLIDAY PARTIES THAT WE DO. NOT TO MENTION THIS YEAR, SPECIFICALLY, WE'VE GOT MORE ICE RAYS AND ISLANDER GAMES THAN WE HAVE IN PREVIOUS YEARS. WHICH KIND OF CHANGED OUR COASTAL CHRISTMAS DYNAMIC. WE HAVE COASTAL CHRISTMAS THE 21st THROUGH 23rd BUT WE OPENED UP THE FIRST WEEKEND IN DECEMBER BECAUSE WE NEEDED TO FREE UP SOME SPACE LATER ON IN THE MONTH FOR THOSE TEAMS TO GET THEIR SCHEDULES OUT THERE. YES, WE DEFINITELY DO SEE AN UPTICK IN DECEMBER WHEN IT COMES TO SOME OF THE EVENTS WE HAVE, MOSTLY WITH SOME OF THOSE HOLIDAY PARTIES THEY GET TO BE PRETTY BIG. >> Roy: ARE WE STILL RENTING THE ICE MAKER? >> YES, SIR, WE ARE. >> Roy: ANY PROJECTION, PETER, WHEN THAT'S GOING TO BE REPLACED? >> Zanoni: WE HAVE A REPLACEMENT IN THE CAPITAL BUDGET. >> I BELIEVE WE HAVE DESIGN THIS YEAR AND WE HAVE SPOKEN WITH A CONSULTANT. STILL WORKING THROUGH SOME OF THAT WITH CITY ENGINEERING. I DON'T HAVE A TIME-FRAME ON CONSTRUCTION. >> Roy: I'M SURE, SINCE THE LAST TIME WE TALKED ABOUT IT, THE PRICES WENT UP. >> Zanoni: ELSIE IS OUR ASSISTANT DIRECTOR. WE DO NEED TO DO THAT BECAUSE IT'S A WASTE OF MONEY WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING. >> GOOD AFTERNOON. ELSIE, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND PLANNING. YES. WE DO HAVE DESIGN ONGOING FOR FISCAL YEAR '26. AND THEN ONCE WE GET THE FINAL ESTIMATES AND DESIGN PLANS, THEN WE WOULD MOVE INTO CONSTRUCTION INTO 2027. SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON AT THIS POINT. WE WILL HAVE TO LOOK AT THE DIFFERENT FUNDING STREAMS THAT WOULD BE AVAILABLE AT THAT POINT. IT IS FORECASTED RIGHT NOW AT A HIGH LEVEL, WITHOUT DESIGN, OF COURSE, AROUND $5.9 MILLION. >> Roy: 5.9? >> YES. THERE IS EXTENSIVE WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE, NOT JUST ON THE CHILLER ITSELF, THAT IS THE EQUIPMENT, BUT THERE WILL BE SOME DEMOLITION THAT WILL NEED TO OCCUR. WE WOULD NEED TO DEMO SOME WALLS TO BE ABLE TO TAKE OUT THE EXISTING EQUIPMENT AND THEN PUT IN THE NEW ONE. BUT ALSO TO LOOK AT THE PLUMBING AND THE PIPING THAT'S UNDER THE EXISTING FACILITY. THERE'S A LOT OF WORK THAT WOULD NEED TO BE TAKING PLACE. THERE'S A LOT OF ENGINEERING IN ADDITION TO THE ACTUAL CHILLER. BUT RIGHT NOW THE EXISTING CHILLER DOES NOT WORK. IT HAS NOT BEEN WORKING FOR SEVERAL YEARS NOW. >> Roy: YEAH. YOU'RE RENTING. >> THE RENTAL IS UPWARDS OF $290,000 PER SEASON. IT'S QUITE SUBSTANTIAL, ONCE YOU ADD IT OVER THE COURSE OF TEN YEARS OR IF YOU'RE GOING TO KEEP HAVING MORE ICE RAYS. IT IS AN OPERATIONAL EXPENSE AT THIS POINT. >> Roy: THANK YOU. THAT IS ALL I HAD. THANK YOU. >> Mayor Guajardo: COUNCILWOMAN VAUGHN. >> Vaughn: WELL, MY COMPLIMENTS TO THE CHEF. THE LUNCH WAS JUST DELICIOUS. I HEARD Y'ALL ARE GOING TO BE DOING THAT ONCE A MONTH. I'M KIDDING. I'M KIDDING. JUST JOKING. I HAVE LOTS OF GRANDKIDS AND ONE OF THEIR BIGGEST COMPLAINTS IS WE DON'T HAVE CERTAIN CONCERTS HERE. WHAT'S THE CAPACITY? >> FOR A CONCERT IN THE ARENA, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT FACTOR INTO IT. WE AVERAGE ABOUT 7800 FOR AN END STAGE. WE CAN GET UP TO 95 TO 10,000, DEPENDING ON CONFIGURATION. BUT MOST OF OUR SHOWS ARE BETWEEN 77 AND 81. >> Vaughn: SO WHY DON'T YOU HAVE MORE COUNTRY CONCERTS? COUNTRY ARTISTS? >> WE DO A LOT OF COUNTRY CONCERTS. >> Vaughn: THEY'RE ASKING ME. I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU A LIST HERE. RILEY GREEN, HUDSON WESTBROOK. MEGAN MORANAY. JUST WRITE IT DOWN. >> IF YOU E-MAIL THOSE TO PETER, I WILL MAKE SURE WE GET ON THOSE ASAP. >> Vaughn: NO KIDDING, WE ARE COUNTRY AND A LOT OF PEOPLE LIKE THOSE. WE HAVE A DEAL THAT THEY DO AT ORANGE GROVE FOR THAT. YOU COULD ONLY GO SO MANY. BUT I THINK YOU WOULD REALLY FILL THEM UP. I THINK WE HAVE IN THE PAST. I'M JUST CURIOUS WHY WE DON'T HAVE MORE. >> I MEAN, WE HAVE TWO MAJOR COUNTRY CONCERTS IN THE FIRST QUARTER -- I GUESS FIRST HALF. PARKER McCOLLUM IN JANUARY. BILLY ZIMMERMAN IS IN APRIL. THOSE ARE ALREADY ON SALE AND MOVING TICKETS. >> Vaughn: THAT'S GOOD. >> WE USUALLY GET THREE OR FOUR CONCERTS A YEAR -- COUNTRY CONCERTS A YEAR. SO THERE'S STILL SOME THINGS IN THE WORKS. >> Vaughn: MAYBE YOU SHOULD DO MORE. JUST REMEMBER MY LIST. I WILL GET IT TO YOU. >> PERFECT. >> Mayor Guajardo: COUNCILMAN SCOTT. >> Scott: IS IT NATE BERGATZE? HE IS HOT. IT'S AMAZING YOU GOT HIM. SATURDAY NIGHT LIVE. >> HE'S DOING FANTASTIC. >> Scott: BRILLIANT HUMOR. >> AND CLEAN, WHICH IS UNIQUE WHEN IT COMES TO COMEDY. THAT'S A GOOD -- IT WAS A GOOD GET FOR US, I THINK. >> Scott: CAROLYN AND I HAD A GRAND TIME THE LAST TIME HE WAS HERE. HEY ESCALATOR. I WENT TO A COUPLE OF FUNCTIONS AND IT WAS DOWN TO ONE AND YOU GUYS WERE MONITORING. I GUESS YOU WERE CHECKING MY WEIGHT. YOU KNOW, YOU WERE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW MANY PEOPLE. BUT I WAS THERE LAST WEEK AND IT WORKED. IS IT BEHIND US? >> YEAH, I THINK IT'S BEHIND US. THERE WAS A SENSOR THAT WE WERE HAVING ISSUES WITH SO WE WERE JUST BEING -- ERRING ON THE SIDE OF SAFETY SO WE DIDN'T WANT TO BE IN A SITUATION WHERE WE WERE ON AN ESCALATOR AND ONE OF THE SENSORS TRIP. >> Scott: WHEN YOU'RE MONITORING THE ESCALATOR. >> WE HAD A TRIP -- NOT A TRIP WHERE SOMEONE TRIPPED, BUT WE HAD ONE OF THE SENSORS TRIP IT. WE WERE BEING CAUTIOUS. >> Scott: IF YOU'RE THAT GUY THAT GETS ON WHEN IT STOPS, IS THAT A RED FLAG, LIKE GO ON A DIET? >> HONESTLY, SOMETIMES WITH ESCALATORS THERE'S EMERGENCY STOPS THAT THE GENERAL PUBLIC DOESN'T NECESSARILY KNOW ABOUT THAT ACCIDENTALLY GET HIT SOMETIMES. FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, WE WOULD RATHER BE SAFE. >> Scott: DO YOU THINK IT'S BEHIND US? >> I THINK SO. >> Scott: THANK YOU. I THINK YOU'RE DOING A GREAT JOB. THANK Y'ALL VERY MUCH. >> Mayor Guajardo: COUNCILWOMAN CAMPOS. >> Campos: THANK YOU SO MUCH, MAYOR. I WANT TO DO A SHOUT OUT FOR ROCK MUSIC AS WELL. I THINK P PAUL McCARTNEY, DIDN'T THEY GO TO THE RIO GRANDE? ANYWAY, THAT'S NOT WHAT I WANTED TO SAY. I ACTUALLY WANTED TO KNOW HAVE WE RECEIVED OUR FIRST CHECK FROM THE HILLIARD CENTER RENAMING? >> YES. >> Campos: AND IT IS -- WE RECEIVED IT WHEN? >> I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT DATE BUT SEPTEMBER. >> Campos: OH, SO -- >> I DON'T REMEMBER THE EXACT DATE BUT IT WAS SEPTEMBER. >> Campos: I WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S IN THE BANK AND EVERYTHING IS GOING SMOOTHLY. >> IT'S GOING FANTASTIC. THEY'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THE PARTNERSHIP. VERY ENGAGED WITH THE FACILITY AND THE EVENTS THAT WE'RE DOING, FINDING DIFFERENT WAYS TO CREATE ACTIVATIONS. IT'S A VERY UNIQUE PARTNERSHIP THAT WE HAVE AND THEY'RE VERY INVOLVED. AGAIN, WE'RE STILL LOOKING FOR A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS TO KIND OF KEEP THEM INVOLVED. WE JUST PUT SOME LIGHTS ON OUR CONCOURSE THAT SHINES DOWN AND SAYS "HILLIARD CENTER." THERE'S SOME NEW TECHNOLOGY THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH THEM ON TO KIND OF KEEP THAT BRAND GOING AND KEEP THE NAME HILLIARD CENTER OUT THERE. BUT BEEN A FANTASTIC PARTNERSHIP SO FAR. >> Campos: THEY SEEM LIKE REALLY, REALLY INVOLVED AND SO THAT'S REALLY APPRECIATED. THAT'S WHAT'S SO GREAT ABOUT WHEN YOU HAVE SOMEONE LOCAL REALLY INVESTED AND HAVE THAT KIND OF COMMUNICATION AND RELATIONSHIP. >> ABSOLUTELY. >> THEY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEIR NAME IS HELD TO A HIGH ESTEEM AND THAT THEY BELIEVE IN EXCELLENCE AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT Y'ALL ARE TRYING TO PROVIDE HERE. >> YES. VERY MUCH SO. >> Campos: AGAIN, I ALSO AGREE WITH THE FOOD. OH, MY GOD. IT WAS SO GOOD. I MENTIONED TO ERIC, WHAT? NO WHATABURGER? NOT FOR THIS ONE. YOU EVEN WON HIM OVER. THANK YOU. >> I DON'T THINK THAT EVERY TIME WE'RE UP ON THE AGENDA THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE PROVIDING IT. I DON'T WANT TO BE HERE EVERY MONTH. >> Campos: NO, THIS WAS REALLY SPECIAL. I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO H-E-B. H-E-B ALSO PROVIDES OUR YEARLY -- YEAH, THE H-E-B PROVIDES A THREE-LAYER CAKE. SO IT COMPLEMENTED THE MEAL BEAUTIFULLY. THANK YOU TO H-E-B AS WELL. >> ALSO ON THE PARTNERSHIP, I WANT TO POINT OUT WE DID RESIGN AMERICAN BANK TO BE A PARTNER IN THE FACILITY FOR A SUITE. THEY WILL CONTINUE TO BE A PARTNER FOR US IN THE FACILITY. SO, AGAIN, OBVIOUSLY NO HARD FEELINGS AND WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO WELCOMING THEM BACK TO THE FACILITY IN A DIFFERENT MANNER. >> Mayor Guajardo: GOOD. >> Campos: ONE OTHER THING I WANTED TO SAY. I DID GO TO THE VISIT CORPUS CHRISTI EVENT AND IT WAS THE FIRST TIME -- I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS Y'ALL THAT DID IT OR IF IT WAS VISIT CORPUS CHRISTI. BUT THEY HAD LOUNGE AREAS. IS THAT Y'ALL OR THEM? >> I'M PRETTY SURE THAT WAS THE DECORATOR THAT THEY HIRED. >> Campos: THAT WAS PRETTY COOL. WE WERE ABLE TO ACTUALLY ENJOY -- IT'S NOT A $1 MILLION VIEW ANYMORE. IT'S WAY MORE. IT WAS JUST BEAUTIFUL TO BE ABLE TO TAKE IT ALL IN. NICE. >> Mayor Guajardo: COUNCILMAN HERNANDEZ. >> Hernandez: GOING BACK TO THE SAFETY ISSUE, DO YOU HAVE SOMEBODY ASSIGNED TO BE YOUR SAFETY OFFICER FOR YOUR -- OR SAFETY MANAGER FOR YOUR SYSTEM? >> WE HAVE A FEW PEOPLE WHO ARE THERE. WE DON'T HAVE A DESIGNATED SAFETY MANAGER BUT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE ONE IN THE VERY NEAR FUTURE. >> Hernandez: OKAY. ESPECIALLY THE YOU'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO HAVE IMPROVEMENTS DONE TO THE FACILITY YOU SHOULD HAVE ONE FOR YOUR SYSTEM JUST AS A SAFETY MEASURE. >> UNDERSTOOD. >> Hernandez: AS FAR AS MUSIC SELECTION, I'M MORE OF THE ALTERNATIVE GUY. THERE ARE SOME OTHER OPTIONS LIKE COLDPLAY, THE GORILLAS, KILLERS. >> Mayor Guajardo: DID YOU GET ALL THAT? >> PETER AND ELSIE HAVE MY E-MAIL ADDRESS. PUT ANY REQUESTS. I CAN TREAT IT LIKE SPOTFY AND DO THE BEST I CAN. >> Hernandez: I HEARD SOME COUNTRY MUSIC. SHE MENTIONED ROCK. PUT IN FOR MY OWN MUSICAL CHOICE. THEY DID VERY WELL. THAT SHOULD TELL YOU SOMETHING . THEY'RE NOT A MODERN BAND. THEY'RE A '90s -- >> WE JUST HAD YELLOW CAR WITH A DAY TO REMEMBER . AGAIN, THAT'S WHAT I GREW UP ON. THAT'S ALTERNATIVE. >> Hernandez: I'M CURIOUS HOW THAT RUSH TRIBUTE BAND IS GOING TO DO. THAT SHOULD BE INTERESTING. >> YEAH. >> Hernandez: NOT MY TIME-FRAME. >> BUT, AGAIN, THAT'S A SUBSTANTIAL TOUR THAT THEY'RE DOING SO I'M THINKING IT'S GOING TO DO PRETTY WELL. >> Hernandez: OTHER THAN THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE IN MORE MONEY BUT THAT'S WATER UNDER THE BRIDGE. BUT WE'LL GO FROM THERE. OH, AND THANK YOU AGAIN FOR LETTING ME USE YOUR CONFERENCE ROOM. >> NO, IT'S OUR PLEASURE. >> Mayor Guajardo: COUNCILMAN BARRERA. >> Barrera: JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS. I KNOW -- OBVIOUSLY I THINK IT'S GREAT YOU GOT SOME BIG CONVENTIONS COMING UP. YOU KNOW, IF WE COULD JUST KIND OF -- I KNOW THERE'S A BALANCE SIMPLY BECAUSE THE MORE HOT TAX THAT WE BRING IN, IT'S MORE FUNDS FOR YOU GUYS TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS. AND I KNOW THE HOSPITALITY COMMUNITY WANTS TO GET MORE HEADS IN BEDS. >> YEAH. WE STARTED MEETING -- WE'VE ADDED A MONTHLY MEETING WHERE WE TALK THROUGH SOME OF OUR NEEDS WITH VISIT CORPUS CHRISTI, WITH BROOKE, SPECIFICALLY, SO THAT WAY WE HAVE A TOUCHPOINT TALKING THROUGH THOSE THINGS. WE'RE COGNIZANT OF THE VISITOR BUSINESS WE'RE LOOKING TO BRING THROUGH. >> Barrera: I'VE BEEN BIG FANS OF YOURS. YOU WEREN'T HERE WHEN YOU GUYS FIRST TOOK OVER. I WAS REALLY, REALLY CRITICAL AND YOU GUYS HAVE REALLY PERFORMED. ONE OTHER THING, IF YOU NEED AN OPENING ACT, MARK AND I DID SING OVER AT THE ANNEX. NOBODY THROUGH ANYTHING AT US. I COUNT THAT AS A WIN. [LAUGHTER] >> Mayor Guajardo: COUNCILMAN CANTU. >> Cantu: NONPROFITS, ARE THEY GETTING A DISCOUNT NOW OVER THERE? HOW IS THAT WORKING? >> DISCOUNTS FOR ROOM SPACE? >> Cantu: YEAH. >> WE HAVE A STANDARD DISCOUNT FOR NONPROFITS. IT'S BEEN IN PLACE SINCE THE DAY WE TOOK OVER. >> Cantu: GOT IT. ON YOUR -- >> AND THE DISCOUNT IS ON RENTAL OF SPACE. >> Cantu: THE CATERING SERVICES, YOU SAID YOU'RE ALLOWING OUTSIDE PEOPLE. IS THAT WHAT YOU SAID? >> NO. WE'RE UTILIZING SOME LOCAL VENDORS IN OUR CATERING BUSINESS. >> Cantu: GOT IT. APPRECIATE IT. >> Zanoni: AND YOU HAVE INTERNS FROM DEL MAR. >> YES. VERY MUCH. AND, AGAIN, WE'VE GOT THE INCUBATOR PROGRAM, WHICH WILL BE A LOCAL VENDOR THAT WILL HAVE A CONCESSION STAND ON THE CONCOURSE FOR THE MAIN ARENA EVENTS. >> Cantu: GOT IT. AND I KIND OF UNDERSTAND YOU CAN'T REALLY HAVE THAT BIG OF A COUNTRY SHOW BECAUSE OF THE CAPACITY RIGHT? YOU'RE WORKING WITH THE LOW CAPACITY? >> WE WORK WITH A CAPACITY -- >> Cantu: LIKE GEORGE STRAIT WON'T COME AND PLAY AT THE AMERICAN BANK CENTER, RIGHT? IT'S TOO SMALL FOR HIM. >> NEVER SAY NEVER. WE DID JELLYROLL A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO SO WE ARE IN THERE FOR SOME OF THOSE. ARE WE GOING TO COMPETE WITH THE 18,000 SEAT VENUES OF THE WORLD? NO. BUT THERE ARE STILL SOME THAT WE'RE DEFINITELY IN THE RUNNING FOR AND FOR CHRIS STAPLETON, JELLYROLL ARENA-SIZE CAPACITY-WISE WE'RE ON THE SMALLER END OF WHAT THOSE FACILITIES ARE BUT WE'RE COMPETING WITH THAT BUSINESS AND DRAWING THEM TO CORPUS. >> Cantu: JELLYROLL WAS A SOLD-OUT EVENT? NICE. HAVE YOU THOUGHT ABOUT R&B? ME AND PETER LIKE BOYS TO MEN. >> JUST SEND YOUR LIST OVER. >> Cantu: BUM THUGS TOO. >> WE HAVE A DIRECTOR OF BOOKING. >> Mayor Guajardo: YOU'RE GOING TO GET NINE LISTS, JUST SO YOU KNOW . >> YEAH. >> Mayor Guajardo: DANIEL, WE'RE GOING TO WRAP UP. WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR PRESENTATION. VERY INFORMATIVE AND ADD -- I THINK I ALREADY TOLD YOU BUT THAT LUNCH WAS UNFORGETTABLE. SO GOOD. THANK YOU SO MUCH. WE APPRECIATE YOU. OKAY. WITH THAT, WE'RE A FEW MINUTES EARLY BUT I'M GOING TO GO STRAIGHT INTO PUBLIC COMMENT. AND WE ONLY HAVE 12 PEOPLE. SO WE'RE GOING TO START WITH MARK SHOWER. AND THEN MARY ELENA GARZA, ADAM RIOS, SUSIE SALDANA. >> MARK SHOWER. I LIVE IN CORPUS CHRISTI. I RETIRED FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT BACK IN JANUARY. AND THROUGHOUT MOST OF MY CAREER I WORKED WITH ON HOMELESS ISSUES NO MATTER WHERE I WAS. AND I HAD A MEETING WITH HOMELESS PROVIDERS A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO AND DURING THE MEETING ONE OF THEM SAID, HEY, DID YOU KNOW THEY OPENED UP A CHARITY PLACE HERE? I GO, WHAT'S THAT? THE NEXT DAY I FOUND THEM. THEY JUST MOVED IN. IT WAS NOVEMBER TWO YEARS AGO. I WALKED IN UNANNOUNCED AND I ASKED TO TALK TO THE BOSS AND SHE MADE HERSELF AVAILABLE AND SHE MADE COFFEE AVAILABLE AND SHE SHOWED ME AROUND, GAVE ME A TOUR. HER NAME IS CLAUDIA DELLFIN AND SHE'S A DIRECTOR. THEY DIDN'T HAVE A SIGN OR ANYTHING. >> IT'S LOCATED AT ALAMEDA AND AGNES, 1201 AGNES. I GOT TO KNOW THEM. AND THEN I GOT TO KNOW MR. CORONA, WE STARTED TALKING THROUGHOUT THE YEAR AND I'D GO VISIT THEM TO SEE HOW THINGS WERE GOING. THEY DON'T JUST SERVE HOMELESS, ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO SHOW UP, EMOTIONAL DISTRESS, THAT'S IN NEEDS, NEEDS CLOTHES, NEEDS ASSISTANCE, MAY NEED A SHOWER, NEEDS TO REST FOR A WHILE. THEY CAN DO LAUNDRY THERE. BUT NO MATTER WHAT THEY HAVE TO SEE A CASE MANAGER SO THEY GET ENGAGED IF THEY WANT SERVICES. SO WE STARTED TALKING ABOUT WHAT WOULD IT LOOK LIKE IF WE COULD DROP OFF OUR INTOXICATED FOLKS THERE. SO IT KIND OF WRAPPED UP A BIT. AND WITH THE HELP OF CITY LEGAL LAST YEAR AND WITH JACKIE CHAPA, THE -- OUR MUNICIPAL COURT JUDGE AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, WE WORKED OUT AN MOU WITH THEM. SO SINCE DECEMBER OF LAST YEAR, WE'VE PUT ABOUT 170 PEOPLE THAT WE'VE TRANSPORTED, MOST OF THEM HOMELESS, BUT WE TRANSPORTED THEM OVER AND DROPPED THEM OFF. THEY HAVE SEVERAL RECLINERS THAT THEY LET THEM LAY IN, AND THEY HAVE TO BE THERE FOR AT LEAST FOUR HOURS, BUT THEN THEY CAN ENGAGE WITH THEM AND GET A CASE MANAGER. SOME OF THOSE PEOPLE HAVE LEFT AND COME BACK FOR SERVICES. IT'S AN ABSOLUTE WASTE OF TIME TO ARREST SOMEBODY FOR HOMELESS JUST FOR PUBLIC INTOXICATION IF WE CAN DROP THEM OFF THERE. YOU CAN'T GET MONEY FROM THEM, YOU CAN'T CONFINE THEM. ITS THE SAME THING, YOU TIE UP MUNICIPAL COURT. I'M JUST HERE TO THANK THEM PUBLICLY. DISMAS CHARITIES, A COUPLE WORDS ABOUT THEM, BUT THEY OPERATE IN 30 PLUS STATES. THEY'VE BEEN AROUND SINCE 1964. THEY PRETTY MUCH ENGAGE IN THE FEDERAL AND STATE SYSTEMS. THEY OPERATE HALFWAY HOMES. IF I STOOD ON THE CORNER AND THREW A BASEBALL, I COULD HIT THE HALFWAY HOUSE. THEY HOUSE ABOUT JUST UNDER 50 PEOPLE THERE AND THEY HAVE A TOTAL OF ABOUT 80 THAT ARE UNDER COURT SUPERVISION FOR THE FEDERAL SYSTEM, AND THEY DO IT VERY WELL. MOST PEOPLE DON'T EVEN KNOW THEY'RE THERE. THERE'S A SIGN ABOVE THE DOOR. I'M JUST HERE TO PUBLICLY THANK THEM. THE PROGRAM WORKS SO FAR, AND I THINK THERE WERE 24/7 FOR A WHILE, AND HAD TO REDUCE THEIR HOURS BECAUSE OF SOME BUDGET CUTS. ANYWAY, I WANTED TO THANK THEM. THANK YOU. >> Mayor Guajardo: THANK YOU, MR. SHOWER. MARILYNNA GARZA. >> OKAY. MARILYNNA GARZA, DISTRICT ONE. I AM ALSO THE FOUNDER AND CURRENT CEO OF THE FREE STORE CORPUS CHRISTI. I WANTED TO COME TODAY, WHAT -- HAS BEEN PASSED OUT BEFORE YOU IS A FORMAL LETTER FOR ONE OF MY BOARD DIRECTORS, MOLINA GOSA INVITING YOU TO OUR COMMUNITY EVENT THAT WE ARE HOSTING THIS FRIDAY AT THE FORMER YMCA, NOW CORPUS CHRISTI COMMUNITY CENTER AT 417 UPPER BROADWAY THIS FRIDAY STARTING AT 6:00. IT'S ONE THING FOR THE COMMUNITY TO SEE ME OUT THERE AND THEY SEE ME UP HERE, SOME OF THEM ARE WATCHING RIGHT NOW, AND THANK YOU. SOME OF THEM ARE WANDERING AROUND IN THE STREETS RIGHT NOW, AND THEY'RE GOING TO WANT TO SEE THE UPDATE. I HAVE A LOT OF HOUSELESS PEOPLE THAT COME OVER TO MY OFFICE AND ACTUALLY WATCH THESE MEETINGS, ALONGSIDE WITH ME. AND I'M WORKING THEM UP TO HAVE THE COURAGE TO COME AND SPEAK TO YOU GUYS. BECAUSE IT'S ONE THING TO HEAR IT FROM ME. I'M SURE YOU GUYS ARE SO TIRED OF SEEING ME HERE OFRY DAY TALKING ABOUT THE SAME THING, WHICH IS PEOPLE OUTSIDE ON THE STREETS. THIS COMMUNITY EVENT IS A FANTASTIC WAY FOR ANYBODY WHO'S RUNNING FOR OFFICE, WHO IS IN LEADERSHIP, WHO IS AN ADVOCATE OR MAYBE YOU'RE JUST A LITTLE GUY AND YOU REALLY WANT TO GET INVOLVED IN SOLVING THIS HOUSELESSNESS AND POVERTY ISSUE THAT WE HAVE HERE IN TOWN. IT WOULD MEAN A LOT TO OUR COMMUNITY FOR YOU GUYS TO JUST POP YOUR HEAD IN. I'M NOT ASKING FOR YOU TO BE CLEANING MAGGOT-INFESTED WOUNDS LIKE I DO, OR CLEANING MR. GUGGA MAN, I'LL TAKE CARE OF THAT. COME OVER, SAY HELLO TO THE COMMUNITY, YOU'D PROBABLY RECOGNIZE SOME OF THE PEOPLE ON THE TABLE. AND YOU'D BE LIKE, YOU'RE HERE? AND THEY'RE LIKE, I NEED HELP. I HAVE AN 84-YEAR-OLD LADY, SHE KNITS ME SCARVES. RUTH FALK ALWAYS DOING THE MOST FOR OUR COMMUNITY. SHE CAN'T STAND VERY LONG AND SHE CAN BARELY SEW NOW BUT EVERY YEAR I CAN DEPEND ON RUTH FALK SHOWING UP. EVERY YEAR I CAN DEPEND ON A CHURCH LIKE ST. PAUL'S DONATING OVER 3400 DIAPERS TO THIS EVENT THIS FRIDAY. ALL I NEED YOU GUYS TO DO IS SHOW UP. SHOW YOUR CONSTITUENTS THAT YOU CARE ABOUT WHAT THEY'RE GOING THROUGH, WHAT IT'S LIKE TO NOT HAVE A FRIDGE THAT'S FULL, TO NOT HAVE A HOUSE THAT IS WELL BUILT ENOUGH TO KEEP YOU WARM. YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE HOUSELESS TO GET HELP AT THE FREE STORE. I HAD SOMEONE CALL ME, A COWORKER, WHO HAS A COWORKER WHO WORKS FOR THE FAI FERRIES OUT IN PORT A. HE'S FREEZING, HE DOES HAVEN'T A JACKET. HE'S A BIG PERSON. HE CAN'T AFFORD IT. THE FREE STORE IS FOR EVERYONE. WE WANT TO PREVENT YOU FROM ENDING UP IN THE EXPRESSWAY, WE DON'T WANT YOU THERE. SO FRIDAY, 6:00, YMCA, PLEASE SHOW UP. >> Mayor Guajardo: THANK YOU, MRS. GARZA. SUZIE SALDAÑA. >> SUZIE LUNA SALDAÑA, CORPUS CHRISTI, TEXAS. YOU KNOW, I COME BEFORE YOU TODAY BECAUSE I READ THE ARTICLE ABOUT A COUNCILMAN AND THE WORD HE USED AND EVERYBODY GOT SO INSULTED. YOU KNOW, I THINK YOU GUYS, AND EVERYBODY ELSE THAT WAS TALKING, ACTUALLY DID A FAVOR. IF YOU LOOK AT THE MAJORITY OF THE COMMENTS FROM THE PEOPLE, THEY WERE WITH COUNCILMAN CANTU. THEY WERE THERE WITH HIM. AND YOU WANT TO KNOW WHY? BECAUSE THEY LOST -- YOU LOST THE CONTENTS OF THE WORD HE USED. RAPE IS A WORD USED FOR SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN DONE UPON AN INDIVIDUAL THAT DOES NOT WANT IT DONE TO THEM. GUESS WHAT? THE TAXPAYERS DON'T WANT TO LOSE ALL THEIR MONEY. AND I THOUGHT IT WAS APPROPRIATE. I DIDN'T THINK IT WAS A BAD WORD. I DIDN'T THINK IT'S A BAD WORD AT ALL. IT'S A WORD THAT WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH. IT HAPPENS. AND WHEN PEOPLE GET TO THE POINT TO WHERE THEY DON'T GET WHAT THEY WANT AND THEY TAKE IT FROM YOU FORCEFULLY, LET ME TELL YOU, THAT IS WHAT'S HAPPENING TO THE TAXPAYER. WHEN COUNCILMAN CANTU GETS UP AND SAYS, "I WANT TO BE ABLE TO HELP THE TAXPAYER AND NOT HAVE THEM HURT THIS WAY," THEN LOOK AT THE CONTENTS OF THE SENTENCE, NOT AT A WORD. I WANT YOU TO BE CAREFUL A OF THAT, BECAUSE ACTUALLY THE COUNCILMAN SHOULD BE THANKING YOU. THE MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE ARE ON HIS SIDE, WHETHER IT'S ON CHANNEL SIX, ON MY TEA TIME OR ANY OF THE OTHER ONES THAT TRIED TO MAKE IT NEGATIVE OR ANY OF THE PEOPLE THAT SPOKE NEGATIVELY. YOU TAKE A LOOK AT IT, BECAUSE HE CAME OUT THE WINNER. AND I WANT YOU TO LOOK AT WHAT'S BEING SAID FOR THE TAXPAYER. WE HAVE TO REMEMBER WHO YOU REPRESENT. AND YOUR JOB IS TO SAVE THEM MONEY, AND THAT'S US, TO TAKE CARE OF US. AND ON ANOTHER PLEASANT MORE NOTE, HAVE A MERRY CHRISTMAS AND ENJOY YOURSELVES. >> Mayor Guajardo: THANK YOU, MS. SALDAÑA. ROBIN COX. AND THEN WE'LL HAVE BRADLEY BARTLESON, RACHEL CABALLERO AND MARGARET DURAN. >> HI, I'M ROBIN COX, DISTRICT 3. AND FIRST, I'M GOING TO PLAY Y'ALL A LITTLE VIDEO, IF I CAN GET IT TO WORK. [VIDEO PLAYING.] GUESS WHO VOTED ON IT. I KNOW WHO THEY WERE. IT JUST HAD TO BE REFRESHED. THINK OF IT AS DEVONSON AND PHILLIPS' PROJECT. WELL, I GUESS THE -- NOT NECESSARILY NO. >> OH, YOU KNOW THEY OWN IT, RIGHT? >> YES, SIR. >> AND YOU KNEW THAT WHEN THEY WERE VOTING FOR IT, RIGHT? >> YES, SIR. >> BECAUSE BOTH OF THEM ARE ALSO POLITICAL DONORS OF YOURS RIGHT? >> OH, OF COURSE. THEY BELIEVE IN GOOD GOVERNMENT. >> CERTAINLY WHEN IT GIVES THEM $2 MILLION WITH A FORGED DOCUMENT RIGHT? >> I WOULDN'T -- >> I'M SORRY. SAY IT AGAIN? >> REPEAT YOUR COMMENT. >> SURE. IT WASN'T A COMMENT. I WAS SAYING THAT DAY BELIEVE IN BEING GOOD DONORS AND GOOD GOVERNMENT, WHEN THAT GOOD GOVERNMENT QUOTE UNQUOTE GIVES THEM $2 MILLION, EVEN THOUGH THEY USED A FORGED DOCUMENT. IS THAT YOUR DEFINITION OF THAT? >> NO. >> OKAY. I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT YOU MEANT BY "GOOD GOVERNMENT" AND THAT'S WHAT I SEE HERE. >> I GUESS IT'S A RELATIVE TERM. [VIDEO STOPPED.] >> THAT WAS A DEPOSITION BY CERTAIN COUNCILMAN WHO'S LEFT FOR THE DAY SO HE DIDN'T GET TO HEAR IT, BUT IN CASE Y'ALL ARE GOING TO MISS THAT CUTE LITTLE LAUGH, HE GOT TO HEAR IT ON RECORDING. THIS IS A PRIME EXAMPLE OF YOU SCRATCH MY BACK, I'LL SCRATCH YOURS. SINCE DONORS OF HIS WERE THE ONES WHO GAVE TO HOMEWARD SUITES. HE'S SAYING IN THE DEPOSITION, IF IT WAS KIND OF HARD MUTTERED TO HEAR, YEAH, THEY GAVE THEM THE MONEY. AND HE VOTED FOR HOMEWARD SUITES BECAUSE OF IT. AND THEN HE LAUGHED SARCASTICALLY AFTERWARDS. HE DIDN'T LAUGH AT ANY OF Y'ALL, HE LAUGHEDDALITY ALL OF US OUT HERE WHO ARE TAXPAYERS. THAT'S WHO HE WAS LAUGHING AT, IN THE FACES OF EVERY ONE OF YOU. I OWE A GREAT APOLOGY TO MR. ZANONI, I'VE BEEN ONE OF HIS HARSHEST CRITICS, AND AT LEAST HE'S STEPPING UP TO THE PLATE AND SAYING THIS WAS WRONG. IT WAS WRONG. HE WENT TO EACH -- HE WENT TO SEVERAL COUNCILMEMBERS AND SAID DON'T PUT THAT ON. THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG WITH IT. AND WHAT HAPPENED? THEY PUT IT ON ANYWAY. AND THEY GOT $2 MILLION OF TAXPAYER MONEY. IT'S CHRISTMASTIME. HOW MANY OF YOU ARE SCROUNGING FOR $100, $200? HOW MANY OF YOU WOULD LIKE TO START A SMALL BUSINESS? CAN YOU IMAGINE IF YOU JUST GOT A GIFT? YOU ALREADY HAVE MONEY, AND YOU JUST GOT A GIFT. AND SOMEONE LIKE CERTAIN COUNCILMEMBERS LAUGH IN THE FACES IN A DEPOSITION? THAT'S SO INSULTING WHEN YOU SARCASTICALLY SAY, YEAH, I GOT THE MONEY. THEY BELIEVE IN GOOD GOVERNMENT, WHICH IS ME. IT IS THAT OLD PROGRAM WHERE YOU GIVE ME A LITTLE AND I'LL GIVE YOU A LITTLE. YOU KNOW, PATRICK HENRY SAID, I SMELL A RAT. I SMELL A RAT, BUT REALLY I SMELL STINKY FISH, KIND OF WHAT OUR INNER HARBOR'S GOING TO SMELL LIKE IF WE GET DESAL. STINKY, DIRTY, ROTTEN FISH. I GIVE YOU ALL A CHANCE HERE, Y'ALL HAVE A CHANCE TO DO THE RIGHT THING, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THE COVERUP IS SO MUCH WORSE THAN THE CRIME. MY ONLY REGRET IS THAT -- THE ONE COUNCILMAN WASN'T HERE. >> Mayor Guajardo: THANK YOU, MRS. COX. RACHEL CABALLERO. AND THEN MARGARET DURAN. SHE'S NOT HERE. >> RACHEL CABALLERO, D1. MAYBE YOU GUYS SHOULD BRING SOME CHRISTIAN CONCERTS TO HILLIARD CENTER BECAUSE A LOT OF YOU NEED J JESUS AND THE HOLY SPIRIT. FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO PUBLICLY SAY THAT THE CORPUS CHRISTI TAXPAYERS ARE BECOMING A SAFE HAVEN FOR WHISTLEBLOWERS, AND THAT'S ON EVERY GOVERNMENTAL LEVEL. SO IF THERE ARE ANY CONCERNS OUT THERE FOR ANYONE, THE NUECES COUNTY -- THE CORPUS CHRISTI TAXPAYERS ASSOCIATION WILL WELCOME ANY AND ALL INFORMATION, AND IT WILL BE 100% CONFIDENTIAL. EARLIER TODAY, THERE WERE A FEW LIES THAT WERE SPOKEN BY CCW SAYING THAT THEY DID A FULL MODELING WITH KIEWIT. THAT WASN'T TRUE. IT WAS A PARTIAL MODELING. THEY SAID IT TOOK SEVERAL MONTHS. THAT WAS A LIE. THEY SAID IT TOOK SIX DAYS UNTIL THEY WERE CORRECTED BY A CITY STAFFER. THE DATA THAT THEY USED WAS NOT VERIFIED. IT CAME FROM INDUSTRY, SO THOSE NUMBERS WERE NOT CONFIRMED OR VALIDATED. SO THAT WAS A LIE. THEY -- WE WERE LIED TO ABOUT GETTING THE REPORTING FROM THE PORT OF CORPUS CHRISTI WHERE THEY -- WHICH SHOWED THE RESULTS THAT IT WOULD DAMAGE THE INNER HARBOR AT THE LA QUINTA CHANNEL. AND NOBODY COULD GET IT, NOBODY COULD GET IT. AND OH TODAY ADMISSION YOU'VE HAD IT FOR A YEAR. ANOTHER LIE. KILLER STILL OUT AT HILLIARD, THIS CONVERSATION HAPPENED A YEAR, TWO AGO. LIKE WHO'S WORKING IN THIS BUILDING? WHO IS GETTING THINGS DONE? WHO IS FOLLOWING THROUGH ON THESE OPERATIONAL THINGS THAT NEED TO GET DONE? THIS IS CRAZY. AND ALL I'M GOING TO ADD MY TWO CENTS TO THIS, AS OF TODAY, THERE ARE 1,652 SIGNATURES ON THE PETITION THAT I FILED TO REMOVE MAYOR PAULETTE GUAJARDO. I WOULD LIKE FURTHER MOVEMENT ON THIS PETITION, PLEASE. I AM ASKING THE COUNCIL. HERE'S ANOTHER GEM, CORPUS CHRISTI REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION AUTHORITY. >> OKAY. GO AHEAD. >> CORPUS CHRISTI REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION AUTHORITY. WHAT SIT, THE NUECES COUNTY APPRAISAL DISTRICT, WHAT IS IT, THE CITY OF SINTON, CITY OF BEEVILLE. >> CITY OF WHO? >> SINTON, BEEVILLE, ARANSAS PASS -- SINTON, BEEVILLE -- MATHIS. DID I TELL YOU THE NUECES COUNTY APPRAISAL DISTRICT? >> YOU DID. >> I'M TRYING TO THINK OF THE OTHER PUBLIC AGENCIES. OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD -- [VIDEO STOPPED.] >> THESE ARE THE COMPANIES THAT COUNCILMAN ROLAND BARRERA IS DOING BUSINESS WITH AND HE RECUSE HIMSELF GOING FORWARD. THANK YOU. >> Mayor Guajardo: THANK YOU, MRS. CABALLERO, YOU WANT TO COME UP? >> MR. BARTLESON, YOU WANT TO COME IN? I SAW YOU WALK IN. >> [OFF MIC] >> Mayor Guajardo: THAT'S OKAY. THEY'RE GETTING FIXED. >> MY PRINTER'S OUT, SO NO PRESENTATION TONIGHT. LET ME GET WHAT I DO HAVE READY HERE. RIGHT THERE. OKAY. WHEN YOU'RE KILLED, YOU DON'T COME BACK TO LIFE. >> City Secretary: WANT TO SAY YOUR NAME AND CITY, PLEASE. >> OH, BRAD BARTLESON, CORPUS CHRISTI, DISTRICT FIVE. WHEN YOU'RE KILLED YOU DON'T COME BACK TO LIFE WHEN SOMEBODY DECLARES CONDITIONS SAFE AGAIN. I'LL EXPLAIN. SO MOST OF US WERE QUITE JOYED WHEN WE CANCELED INNER HARBOR THE FIRST TIME. AND YET THE LARGER CONCERN WAS REALLY ENVIRONMENTAL AND THE QUALITY OF THE BAYS. I'VE GONE OVER PREVIOUSLY THE MAJOR ISSUES THAT I SAW WITH IT, BUT WE DO NEED TO QUANTIFY IT. IT CAN'T BE MY ASSUMPTION. WE NEED A QUANTITATIVE ANALYSIS. SO A WHILE BACK, I STARTED DIGGING INTO TCEQ'S RATIONALE FOR GIVING A PERMIT TO ADDRESS MY QUESTIONS, QUANTITATIVELY. I TALKED WITH THOMAS STAR, THE PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER, WHICH I AM AS WELL. I WAS DISAPPOINTED AT THAT CONVERSATION. HE POINTED ME TO THE MODELERS, AND I SUBSEQUENTLY FILED AN INFORMATION REQUEST WITH THEM, WHICH I JUST RECEIVED THE RESULTS OF YESTERDAY, WHICH WERE TO INCLUDE ANY AND ALL INFORMATION FOR THE PERMIT BASIS. IN SUMMARY, IT IS VERY DEFICIENT. IT IS A STEADY STATE BULK ANALYSIS. IT DOESN'T ADDRESS ANYTHING BUT WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE INNER HARBOR. IT'S STEADY STATE, IT'S NONTEMPORAL, MEANING WE'RE NOT SEEING RESULTS IN TIME. THIS IS A BULK ANALYSIS. WE'RE NOT SEEING SPATIAL ANALYSIS. SO THE QUESTION WE HAVE AT HAND WHEN WE KILL FISH, DOES THE ADDITION OF SALT INTO OUR VERY PRECARIOUS NUECES BAY, DOES THAT CAUSE MORE FISH KILLS IN A SPECIFIC ZONE? SO BULK ANALYSIS AND STEADY STATE TELL US NOTHING ABOUT THAT. SO AS WE GO FORWARD, WE NEED TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS SPATIALLY AND TEMPORALLY IN A MODEL SUCH AS WAS DONE FOR THE LA QUINTA CHANNEL. AND THE RESULTS OF THAT TOLD US, NO, THIS ISN'T A GOOD THING TO DO. SO WHAT DO WE DO, LET'S GO TO AN EVEN WORSE LOCATION. SO IT DIDN'T MAKE SENSE. THAT MODELING, WHICH I'LL SHARE WHAT THEY IMAIF ME WITH ANY OF YOU THAT WANT TO SEE THAT AS WELL, BUT THERE'S -- THERE'S ALL KINDS OF DEFICIENCIES. THERE'S NO SHARING OF THE INITIAL CONDITIONS, THE BOUNDARY CONDITIONS, THE CONSTITTIVE EQUATIONS, THESE ARE THINGS THAT I DID AND PEOPLE DO IN COMPUTATIONAL MODELING TO HAVE OTHERS, HEY, LOOK, HE DID A GOOD JOB. IF YOU CAN'T SEE THAT, YOU DON'T THOUGH WHAT THEY DID. AND WHAT WE CAN SEE FROM THESE RESULTS IT WAS A VERY SIMPLISTIC SED OF MODELS. YOU CAN DO 1,000 ITERATIONS. WHICH, BY THE WAY, THAT'S ANOTHER THING WE NEED TO SEE, DID THEY RESOLVE THE ITERATION TO ZERO RESIDUAL OR CLOSE TO THAT. IS IT RESOLVED WHEN WE'RE IN THE TIME DOMAIN. THESE THINGS, I FIND IT VERY DEFICIENT, I FIND IT ALMOST INEXCUSABLE THAT THEY WOULD NOT DO A BETTER JOB AND ADDRESS THE BASIC QUESTION OF THE NUECES BAY. WITH THAT, I'LL COME BACK LATER. >> Mayor Guajardo: THANK YOU, MR. BARTLESON. OKAY. MARGARET DURAN OR ERIC VON WADE. OKAY. MICHAEL PITMAN? HENRY WILLIAMS? OKAY. AND THEN I THINK WE HAVE JOHN WEBER ON WEBEX, CORRECT, MRS. HUERTA? OKAY. AND HE'LL BE OUR LAST COMMENTER. >> JOHN WEBER FROM OUT OF TOWN. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCILMEMBERS. THE CORPUS CHRISTI AQUIFER STORAGE AND RECOVERY CONSERVATION DISTRICT IS NOT FOLLOWING THE SAME RULES FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AS THE CITY COUNCIL DOES. THE BODY THAT APPOINTS ITS BOARD MEMBERS. WHY ARE THEY NOT REQUIRED TO FOLLOW THE SAME RULES AS APPOINTING BODY DOES? THEY HAVE NOT ALLOWED FOR PUBLIC COMMENT BY WEBEX DURING THEIR LAST COUPLE OF MEETINGS. THIS APPEARS TO BE A VIE LAITIONZ OF THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT. THE BHOARD OFFICERS HAVE NOT BEEN CONFIRMED BY THE CITY COUNCIL AS REQUIRED BY THE BOARD'S OWN RULES. THE BOARD SEEMS LIKE THEY ARE OUT OF CONTROL BY THE LACK OF FOLLOWING THE RULES THAT ESTABLISH THE BOARD. PLEASE LOOK INTO THESE ALLEGATIONS, ALSO PLEASE APPOINT THREE NONCITY EMPLOYEES TO THE BOARD AFTER THE THREE BOARD MEMBERS' TERM EXPIRE AT THE END OF THIS MONTH. THANK YOU. >> Mayor Guajardo: THANK YOU, MR. WEBER. >> City Secretary: WATER DEPARTMENT LEGAL? >> Zanoni: PROBABLY LEGAL. >> City Secretary: YES, MA'AM. ALONG WITH THE WATER DEPARTMENT. >> Mayor Guajardo: OKAY. WELL, THERE BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS, THIS MEETING IS NOW ADJOURNED.