WELCOME. I WILL CALL TO ORDER OUR BLOOMINGTON CITY COUNCIL MEETING. TONIGHT IS MONDAY FEBRUARY 10TH 2025. THIS IS OUR CITY COUNCIL BUSINESS MEETING. THANK YOU EVERYBODY WHO HAS JOINED US HERE IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS AND EVERYBODY WATCHING ONLINE. WE'LL START OUR MEETING AS WE ALWAYS DO IF YOU'RE ABLE PLEASE STAND AND JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. ONCE AGAIN, THANK YOU TO EVERYONE HERE AND EVERYONE WATCHING. THANKS TO THE COUNCIL FOR BEING HERE. WE ARE DOWN TO COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT WE'RE MISSING COUNCIL MEMBER DALLESSANDRO AND COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS. OH, EXCUSE ME. I'M LOOKING RIGHT AT YOU. I'M LOOKING RIGHT AT YOU, COUNCILMAN MEMBER LOWMAN AND COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS I APOLOGIZE. SO WE'RE DOWN TO FIVE MEMBERS AND WE'VE GOT A FAIRLY SHORT AGENDA TONIGHT. COUNCIL AND OUR FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS OF COURSE IS TO APPROVE THE AGENDA. UNDER OUR INTRODUCTORY ITEMS WE WILL MAKE APPOINTMENTS TO A VARIETY OF HEALTH BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS. 2.1 IS APPOINTMENTS TO THE ADVISORY BOARD OF HEALTH. 2.2 IS APPOINTMENTS TO THE CREATIVE PLACEMAKING COMMISSION. 2.3 IS THE HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSION APPOINTMENTS. 2.4 APPOINTMENTS TO THE PARKS ARTS AND RECREATION COMMISSION. AND 2.5 HOUR APPOINTMENTS TO THE SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSION. OUR CONSENT BUSINESS HAS 19 ITEMS ON AND COUNCILMEMBER NELSON HAS HER CONSENT BUSINESS THIS EVENING. WE HAVE NOTHING UNDER ITEM FOR HEARINGS, RESOLUTIONS AND ORDINANCES AND UNDER ORGANIZATIONAL BUSINESS ITEM FIVE WE HAVE TWO ITEMS ITEM 5.1 IS A DISCUSSION ITEM REGARDING RIGHT AWAY PERMITTING CODE UPDATES. AND THEN WE'LL WRAP UP AS WE ALWAYS DO WITH OUR CITY COUNCIL POLICY AND ISSUE UPDATE COUNCIL ANY CORRECTIONS OR ADDITIONS OR ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD TO TONIGHT'S AGENDA. IF NOT, I WOULD MOVE TONIGHT'S AGENDA AS STATED. SECOND MOTION AND THE SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER CARTER TO ACCEPT TONIGHT'S AGENDA AS STATED. NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSE MOTION CARRIES A50 FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS TONIGHT. COUNCIL IS A SERIES OF APPOINTMENTS AS I MENTIONED. WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS IN THE PAST AND I'LL BRING IT UP ONCE AGAIN. THE PROCESS THAT WE HAVE FOR APPOINTMENTS TO OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS HERE IN THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON HAS CHANGED SIGNIFICANTLY OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS AND I WILL SAY IT CHANGED SIGNIFICANTLY FOR THE BETTER. WE HAVE A FORMAL PROCESS. WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH APPLICANTS. WE HAVE INTERVIEW PANELS THAT THEN RECOMMEND APPOINTMENTS TO THE COUNCIL. BASED OFF OF THE INFORMATION THAT APPLICANTS HAVE SENT IN THE CONVERSATION THAT THEY HAD AND THEN THE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE INTERVIEW PANEL. SO IT'S A ROBUST CONVERSATION. IT WAS LAST MONDAY NIGHT ACTUALLY I THINK WE HAD MORE THAN 40 INTERVIEWS ON MONDAY NIGHT FOR EACH OF THOSE FOR THOSE FIVE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS THAT I MENTIONED. WE HAD DOZENS OF INTERVIEWERS WORKING AND I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE REST OF YOU BUT IT TOOK OUR GROUP IN THE PARKS ARTS AND RECREATION COMMISSION ABOUT 7 HOURS TO FINISH UP OUR WORK. SO WE WERE THERE A LONG TIME. I JUST SAY THIS ALL TO REMIND EVERYONE THIS IS A ROBUST PROCESS AND SIGNIFICANTLY MORE ROBUST THAN IT HAS BEEN EXCUSE ME IN THE PAST AND I THINK THE RESULT HAS BEEN A CONSIDERABLE IMPROVEMENT IN OUR APPLICATION POOL. THE NUMBER OF FOLKS THAT WHO APPLY THE QUALITY FOLKS THAT ARE POLITE AND THEN THE WORK THAT THEY DO ON THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS WHEN THEY'RE APPOINTED. SO I DO WANT TO TO TO LAY IT OUT IN THAT WAY AND AS WE WRAP THIS UP EXCUSE ME I'M FIGHTING JUST THE ISSUE HERE AS LONG AS YOU AS WE WRAP THIS UP, I WILL TALK ABOUT THE WORK THAT OF OUR STAFF WHO DO OUTSTANDING WORK WITH THIS AND PUT THIS ALL TOGETHER. BUT WE WILL START WITH ITEM 2.1 WHICH IS OUR APPOINTMENTS TO THE ADVISORY BOARD OF HEALTH. AND AS I MENTIONED, WE DID HAVE INTERVIEW PANELS AND ON THREE OR FOUR OF THOSE INTERVIEW PANELS WE HAD COUNCILMEMBER REPRESENTATION AND SO I KNOW ON THE ADVISORY BOARD OF HEALTH COUNCILMEMBER CARTER WAS OUR COUNCIL REPRESENTATIVE. COUNCIL MEMBER I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO YOU TO GET THE REPORT FROM THE ADVISORY BOARD OF HEALTH INTERVIEW PANEL AND TO MAKE THE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE COUNCIL. ALL RIGHT. WELL, THANK YOU, MAYOR. SO I WAS JOINED BY ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS ON THE ADVISORY BOARD OF HEALTH AND WE HAD A VERY, VERY COMPETITIVE CANDIDATE POOL AND SO FOR THOSE WHO ARE WATCHING AND MAY HAVE APPLIED, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. IT IS ALWAYS GREAT WHEN THAT'S THE OUR BIG PROBLEM IS JUST TOO MANY AMAZING CANDIDATES. SO WE DID END UP COMING TO A CONCLUSION TO RECOMMEND COURTNEY JOHNSON AND MELISSA CAN YOU SEND SO COURTNEY JOHNSON BRINGS A VERY ROBUST BACKGROUND IN PUBLIC HEALTH STARTED HER CAREER OFF IN GLOBAL HEALTH AND THEN HAS I THINK SHE'S NOW A RESEARCHER AT THE UNIVERSITY OF MINNESOTA. SO PASSIONATE INTEREST IN SUPPORTING THE AGING COMMUNITY SHE TALKED ABOUT THAT AT LENGTH MULTI-DISCIPLINARY BACKGROUND AND THEN SHE ACTUALLY GREW UP IN BLOOMINGTON SO HAS STRONG BLOOMINGTON TIES. AND THEN SHE WHEN WE ASKED THE QUESTION AROUND OUR STRATEGIC PLAN, SHE, YOU KNOW, TALKED A LOT ABOUT HER PASSION IN CONNECTING LOCAL COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND ORGANIZATION WITH LOCAL GOVERNMENT. SO AND THEN THE SECOND PERSON, MELISSA KNUDSON, SHE'S ACTUALLY A VETERINARIAN AND TALKED ABOUT HOW INITIALLY SHE HAD BEEN REALLY INTERESTED IN APPLYING TO THE BOARD OF HEALTH BECAUSE OF HER STRONG UNDERSTANDING AND KNOWLEDGE AND INFECTIOUS DISEASES WHICH WE ARE SEEING OBVIOUSLY BECOME A PRETTY BIG ISSUE AGAIN AND UM BUT THEN SHE ALSO TALKED ABOUT THAT SHE'S VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT SOCIAL ISOLATION AND MENTAL HEALTH AND THINKING THROUGH STRATEGIES ON HOW WE COULD ADDRESS THOSE. SHE HAS EXPERIENCE WORKING WITH DIVERSE GROUPS THROUGH SOME ORGANIZATIONS SHE'S VOLUNTEERED WITH AND UM, SO SO A PRETTY GOOD UNDERSTANDING OF THE HEALTH OF COMMUNITIES WHO ARE DISPROPORTIONATELY IMPACTED AND AND FEELS VERY PASSIONATELY ABOUT SUPPORTING COMMUNITIES AND WORKING WITH SENIORS WHO ARE DISPROPORTIONATELY IMPACTED BY DIFFERENT THINGS. SO THAT'S WHERE WE LEANED AND AGAIN VERY COMPETITIVE CANDIDATE POOL REALLY GRATEFUL FOR EVERYBODY WHO APPLIED. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER CARTER COUNCIL ANY QUESTIONS OF COUNCILMEMBER CARTER REGARDING THE INTERVIEWS FOR THE ADVISORY BOARD OF HEALTH APPOINTMENTS? SO THE TWO RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE INTERVIEW PANEL WERE FOR COURTNEY JOHNSON AND MELISSA KNUTSON. THAT IS TO SAY YOU ARE FREE TO VOTE FOR WHOEVER YOU WOULD LIKE BUT THAT'S THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE PANEL AND WE WILL DO THIS AS WE ALWAYS DO. I'M GOING TO TURN TO OUR COUNCIL SECRETARY SO FAR MERCER AND SHE WILL CALL THE ROLL AND WE WILL VOTE AS APPROPRIATE UNTIL WE GET TO A CANDIDATE OR TWO CANDIDATES WHO HAVE FOUR VOTES EACH AND WILL THEN MAKE THEM COUNCIL MEMBER CARTER WILL MAKE THE APPOINTMENT OR THE MOTION FOR THE APPOINTMENT TO THE ADVISORY BOARD OF HEALTH. THANK YOU, MAYOR. SO FAR D'ALESSANDRO. I'LL SUPPORT THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE COMMISSION AND VOTE FOR JOHNSON AND SORRY, COURTNEY JOHNSON AND MELISSA NUTTALL. CARTER COURTNEY JOHNSON AND MELISSA KNUTSON. NELSON JOHNSON. KNUTSON KNUTSON JOHNSON AND KNUTSON AND MAYOR BUSSEY. COURTNEY JOHNSON AND MELISSA KNUTSON. SO IF MY MATH IS CORRECT WE HAVE FIVE VOTES FOR THE TWO RECOMMENDED CANDIDATES. COUNCILMEMBER CARTER RIGHT. SO I WOULD MOVE TO APPOINT I BELIEVE COURTNEY JOHNSON. UM OH THANK YOU. YES. COURTNEY JOHNSON TO A CONSUMER MEMBER SEAT FROM MARCH 1ST, 2025 TO FEBRUARY 29TH, 2028 ON THE ADVISORY BOARD OF HEALTH SECOND. I ACTUALLY I THINK WE CAN DO THEM AS A AS A PACKAGE. HOW ABOUT THAT? OH OKAY. AND MELISSA, CAN YOU SEND TO A PROVIDER MEMBER SEAT FROM MARCH 1ST, 2025 TO FEBRUARY 29TH? NOW I'LL SIT ON THE ADVISORY BOARD HEALTH. WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER CARTER SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO TO APPOINT COURTNEY JOHNSON AS A CONSUMER MEMBER AND MELISSA KNUDSEN IS A PROVIDER MEMBER TO THE ADVISORY BOARD OF HEALTH. NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSE THE MOTION CARRIES FIVE ZERO. THANK YOU VERY MUCH COUNCILMEMBER CARTER. MOVING ON ITEM 2.2 IS AN APPOINTMENT TO OUR CREATIVE PLACEMAKING COMMISSION. THIS WAS ONE OF THE INTERVIEW PANELS WHERE WE DID NOT HAVE A CITY COUNCIL MEMBER WHO WAS PART OF THE INTERVIEW PANEL. BUT THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT CAME FORWARD WERE THREE PEOPLE AND THE NOTES THAT WE HAVE FROM THE INTERVIEW PANEL WAS THAT ALL OF THESE CANDIDATES WERE AWARE OF AND UNDERSTOOD THE WORK OF THE COMMISSION AS IT RELATES TO BLOOMINGTON AND A CONNECTION TO THE COMMUNITY. AND WE KNOW HOW IMPORTANT THAT IS ESPECIALLY NOW AS A CREATIVE PLACEMAKING COMMISSION. THE WORK OF THE CREATIVE PLACEMAKING MAKING COMMISSION IS GOING CITYWIDE AND SO THESE ARE IMPORTANT APPOINTMENTS AND THESE ARE IMPORTANT TO THE IMPORTANT WORK THAT THE CREATIVE PLACEMAKING COMMISSION WILL BE DOING. SO BASED ON THE INTERVIEWS AND THE WORK THAT THE INTERVIEW PANEL DID, THEY RECOMMENDED THE APPOINTMENT OF BETH MCCOY ,PAUL COTE AND MEGAN LUNDQUIST TO APPOINTMENTS TO THE CREATIVE PLACEMAKING COMMISSION. ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT COUNCIL ? ALL RIGHT. IF NOT SO FAR, COULD YOU TAKE US THROUGH THE VOTE PLEASE? ALESSANDRA COTE LUNDQUIST MCCOY MOUA MCCOY COTE LUNDQUIST NELSON LUNDQUIST MCCOY COTE CARTER MCCOY COTE LUNDQUIST AND MAYOR BUSSEY COTE LUNDQUIST MCCOY. SO BASED ON A FIVE VOTE TALLY FOR THE THREE RECOMMENDED APPOINTEES COUNCIL I WOULD MAKE A MOTIO TO APPOINT BETH MCCOY TO A TERM FROM MARCH 1ST 2025 TO FEBRUARY 29TH 2028. PAUL COTE TO A TERM FROM MARCH 1ST 2025 TO FEBRUARY 29TH, 2028 AND MEGAN LUNDQUIST TO A SAME TERM MARCH 1ST 2025 TO FEBRUARY 29TH 2028 ON THE CREATIVE PLACEMAKING COMMISSION SECOND A MOTION AND A SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER FOR THE APPOINTMENTS OF BETH MCCOY, PAUL COTE AND MEGAN LUNDQUIST. NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSE THE MOTION CARRIES FIVE ZERO. ITEM 2.3 ON OUR AGENDA IS IN APPOINT THEIR APPOINTMENTS TO THE HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSION AND COUNCILMEMBER NELSON WAS OUR COUNCILMEMBER REPRESENTATIVE ON THAT INTERVIEW PANEL. YOU WERE NOT. YOU HAD AN EMERGENCY COME UP ALL RIGHT. DID WE HAVE A COUNCIL REPRESENTATIVE ON THAT INTERVIEW PANEL? VERY GOOD. WELL, THE THE HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSION, AS WE KNOW IS AN ADVISES THE COUNCIL ON ENSURING THAT ALL RESIDENTS HAVE EQUAL OPPORTUNITY EMPLOYMENT, HOUSING AND PUBLIC ACCOMMODATIONS PUBLIC SERVICES AND EDUCATION AND IN OTHER AFFAIRS THAT AFFECT THE SOCIAL WELL-BEING OF THIS COMMUNITY. AND BASED ON THE INTERVIEWS AND THE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE INTERVIEW PANEL FROM THE HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSION THAT THE FOLLOWING THE FOLLOWING CANDIDATES WERE BEST ALIGNED WITH THE KEY PRIORITIES OF THIS COMMISSION AND THE LISTED FIVE FOLKS WHO WERE BEST ALIGNED AND THEN THEY MADE THE RECOMMENDATION FOR THE APPOINTMENT TO THE HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSION AND THE UP THE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE INTERVIEW PANEL WERE TO APPOINT JULIA PERRY NYANG GONZALES, BARRON LEWIS AND JESSICA THORNTON TO TERMS ON THE HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSION. ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT COUNCIL ? VERY GOOD SO FAR. MUIR PERRY. GONZALES LEWIS THORNTON. CARTER PERRY. GONZALES LEWIS AND THORNTON. D'ALESSANDRO SORRY. GONZALES LEWIS. PERRY. THORNTON. NELSON GONZALES. LEWIS PERRY. THORNTON MAYOR BUZZY GONZALES . LEWIS PERRY. THORNTON. WE HAVE FIVE VOTES FOR THE FOUR RECOMMENDED CANDIDATES CANDIDATES RECOMMENDED BY THE INTERVIEW COMMISSION. COUNSEL I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO APPOINT JULIA PERRY NYANG GONZALES AND BARRON LEWIS TWO TERMS FROM MARCH 1ST 2025 TO FEBRUARY 28TH 2026 AND JESSICA THORNTON TO A TERM FROM MARCH 1ST 2025 TO FEBRUARY 28TH 2027 ON THE HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSION . A POINT OF ORDER MR. MAYOR. I BELIEVE THE FIRST TWO WERE APPOINTED THROUGH 2028. OH I'M SORRY I MISREAD. I'M JUST READ I WILL RESTATE MY MY MOTION THEN IF I COULD. THANK YOU. APOLOGIES COUNSEL. THANK YOU FOR CATCHING THAT COUNCILMEMBER. I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO APPOINT JULIA PERRY AND JUAN GONZALES TO A TERM ON THE HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSION FROM MARCH 1ST, 2025 TO FEBRUARY 29TH, 2028 TO APPOINT BARRON LEWIS TO A TERM FROM MARCH 1ST 2025 TO FEBRUARY 28TH 2026 AND APPOINT JESSICA THORNTON TO A TERM FROM MARCH 1ST 2025 TO FEBRUARY 28TH, 2027 AND A MOTION IN A SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO TO MAKE THOSE APPOINTMENTS TO THE HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSION AS STATED AND AGAIN THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER FOR CATCHING ME ON THAT ONE. ANY FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS HEARING ON ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES ZERO. ITEM 2.4 WERE WAS THE APPOINTMENT OF TWO IS THE APPOINTMENT TO THE PARTS ARTS AND RECREATION COMMISSION AND THIS WAS ACTUALLY THE COMMISSION THAT I STAFF THE INTERVIEW PANEL WE HAD WE HAD 18 APPLICATIONS AND 16 INTERVIEWS THAT NIGHT SO WE HAD A BUSY NIGHT AND MUCH LIKE EVERYONE ELSE WHO PARTICIPATED I WAS SO VERY IMPRESSED WITH THE PEOPLE THAT WE HAD A CHANCE TO TALK TO THE EXPERIENCES THAT THEY BROUGHT AND THE PASSION THAT THEY BROUGHT TO ALL THREE OF THOSE THINGS. PARKS, ARTS AND RECREATION AND THERE WERE SOME VERY SPECIFIC TALENTS ASSOCIATED WITH YOUTH WHICH WITH EACH OF THOSE POSSIBLE ENDEAVORS WE HAD A LOT OF FOLKS WHO COULD SPEAK ELOQUENTLY ON ALL THESE DIFFERENT THINGS. IT WAS A I WILL TELL YOU IT'S A DIFFICULT SITUATION BECAUSE WE HAD 16 INTERVIEWS AND WE HAD TWO OPENINGS AND SO WE HAD HARD TIME COMING DOWN TO TWO. BUT AFTER DISCUSSION THAT LASTED WELL PAST 10:00 WE DID COME UP WITH A RECOMMENDATION. WE DID AGREE THAT THE FOLLOWING CANDIDATES WERE BEST ALIGNED WITH THE KEY PRIORITIES OF THE COMMISSION NOW.AND GONZALES MICHAEL RAMIREZ, RANDY JOHNSON, MEGAN LUNDQUIST AND RYAN LOGAN WE MADE THE RECOMMENDATION TO APPOINT RENEE JOHNSON TO A TERM AND FROM MARCH 1ST 2025 TO FEBRUARY 29TH, 2028 AND RYAN LOGAN TO A TERM FROM MARCH 1ST 2025 TO FEBRUARY 29TH 2028. THOSE WERE THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE INTERVIEW PANEL. AFTER THE WORK THAT WE DID LAST MONDAY NIGHT, ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT COUNCIL HEARING? NONE THIS MR. NELSON, RENé JOHNSON AND RYAN LOGAN CARTER JOHNSON AND LOGAN MUIR JOHNSON AND LOGAN D'ALESSANDRO. JOHNSON AND LOGAN AND MAYOR BUZZY RENEE JOHNSON AND RYAN LOGAN WITH FIVE VOTES IN FAVOR OF OUR TWO RECOMMENDATIONS I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO APPOINT RENé JOHNSON AND RYAN LOGAN TO THE CITY PARKS, ARTS AND RECREATION COMMISSION WITH TERMS FROM MARCH 1ST 2025 TO FEBRUARY 29TH 2028. SECOND MOTION AND THE SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER D'ALESSANDRO NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I I OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES FIVE ZERO. AND MR. MAYOR, IF I CAN. IT LOOKS LIKE WE ARE GOING TO GET THE BENEFIT OF TWO ALIGNED CANDIDATES GONZALES AND LUNDQUIST ON OTHER ON THE HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSION, WHICH IS GREAT NEWS THAT SO THEY'LL HAVE A SPACE TO OPERATE AS A VOLUNTEER FOR THE CITY ANYWAY WHICH IS NICE TO SEE. THAT IS EXACTLY RIGHT AND I AGREE WITH YOU COMPLETELY. THAT'S VERY GREAT TO SEE. I'M GLAD WE WERE ABLE TO FIND A SPACE FOR BOTH OF THEM YEAH . OUR FINAL ITEM UNDER ITEM TWO IS 2.5 SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSION APPOINTMENTS. THE SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSION ADVISES THE COUNCIL CITY STAFF AND THE COMMUNITY ON POLICIES, PRACTICES, PROCEDURES AND PROPOSALS THAT RELATE TO THE SUSTAINABLE USE AND MANAGEMENT OF ENVIRONMENT RESOURCES AND THAT ALL INCLUDES AIR, WATER, ENERGY, LAND AND ECOLOGICAL RESOURCES AND WASTES THEIR. IT'S A SEVEN. IT'S AN 11 MEMBER BODY AND IT LOOKS LIKE THERE WERE SIX APPLICATIONS WITH FOUR OPENINGS AND THE COUNCIL OR EXCUSE ME THE INTERVIEW PANEL SAID THAT THE FOLLOWING CANDIDATES BEST ALIGNED WITH KEY PRIORITIES OF THE COMMISSION ANGIE B'GOSH ANDY SCOTT, CLAUDIA APPLETON, AARON SMITH AND MICHAEL RAMIREZ AND THE INTERVIEW PANEL RECOMMENDED THE APPOINTMENT OF ANDY SCOTT, ANGIE B'GOSH, AARON SMITH AND CLAUDIA EVERSON AND SCOTT B'GOSH AND SMITH TO SERVE FROM MARCH 1ST TO 2025 TO FEBRUARY 29TH 2028 AND CLAUDIA EIGHTH OLSEN TO A TERM FROM MARCH 1ST 2025 TO FEBRUARY 28TH, 2027. ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT COUNCIL AND IT SHOULD. STATE COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN SERVED ON THAT INTERVIEW PANEL SO HE HE WOULD HAVE BEEN SPEAKING TO THE TRIBUNE WITH US TONIGHT AND WOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO GIVE A BIT MORE INSIGHT. NO COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS. I WILL TURN TO MISS MERCER CARTER, SCOTT SMITH AND ALTHEA D'ALESSANDRO. ALTHEA ON THE GOSCH SCOTT SMITH MOURA THE GOSCH SMITH ALTHEA AND SCOTT NELSON. SCOTT ALTHEA AND SMITH GOSCH GOSH MAYOR BUSSEY SCOTT B'GOSH SMITH ALTHEA ON COUNTING TO FIVE ALL OF OUR RECOMMENDED APPOINTMENTS DID RECEIVE FIVE VOTES SO COUNCIL I WOULD MAKE A RECOMMENDATION RECOMMENDATION TO APPOINT ANDY SCOTT ANGIE B'GOSH AND AARON SMITH TWO TERMS AND THE SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSION FROM MARCH 1ST 2025 TO FEBRUARY 29TH 2028 AND CLAUDIA FEEHAN TO A TERM FROM MARCH 1ST 2025 TO FEBRUARY 28TH 2027. SECOND MOTION AND A SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER FOR THE APPOINTMENTS TO THE SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSION AS STATED NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSED THE MOTION CARRIES FIVE ZERO. THANK YOU COUNCIL FOR YOUR WORK ON THIS AND I DO WANT TO THANK I DO WANT TO GO OUT OF THE WAY TO THANK OUR CITY WHO DO OUTSTANDING WORK ON THIS. THIS WAS AS I SAID THIS WAS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT JUST FIVE YEARS AGO IF EVEN THEN EVEN CLOSER TO THAT. BUT EMILY LARSON, THE HONOR CODE TEAM HAS TAKEN THIS AND RUN WITH IT AND HAS REALLY MADE THIS A CLEAN PROFESSIONAL ,UNDERSTANDABLE AND LOGICAL APPOINTMENT PROCESS AND DESERVES OUR HEARTFELT THANKS FOR THE WORK THAT SHE PUTS INTO THIS AND SO THANK YOU TO HER AND I THINK COUNCILMEMBER MOUA MENTIONED IT OR COUNCILMEMBER CARTER I BELIEVE IT WAS A LOT OF FOLKS DIDN'T GET APPOINTED TONIGHT AND THAT'S ALWAYS THE CASE WITH THIS AND A LOT OF VERY GOOD FOLKS HAVEN'T HAD AN OPPORTUNITY AND I REALLY ENCOURAGE PEOPLE DON'T BE DISCOURAGED. DON'T GIVE UP. CONTINUE TO LOOK FOR OPPORTUNITIES TO SERVE THE CITY WHETHER IT'S THE CITY, WHETHER IT'S A NONPROFIT, WHETHER IT'S A FAITH COMMUNITY, WHETHER IT'S WORK IN THE SCHOOL. THERE ARE PLENTY OF OPPORTUNITIES FOR REALLY GOOD PEOPLE TO PUT THEIR TALENTS TO USE IN A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT WAYS WITHIN THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON. AND WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE YOU TO DO THAT. SO IF YOU DIDN'T GET APPOINTED TONIGHT, PLEASE CONTINUE TO WORK FOR YOUR COMMUNITY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. WE WILL MOVE ON TO CONNECT TONIGHT'S CONSENT BUSINESS. COUNCILMEMBER NELSON HAS TONIGHT'S CONSENT BUSINESS COUNCIL MEMBER NELSON. THANK YOU MAYOR. I DID NOT HEAR OF ANY HOLDS JUST LAST QUICK REQUEST. OKAY. WITH THAT I WILL MOVE ITEMS 3.1 THROUGH 3.19 SO MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER NELSON SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER TO ACCEPT TONIGHT'S CONSENT BUSINESS AS STATED. NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I I OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES FIVE ZERO. COUNCILMEMBER NELSON SO MENTIONED WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THE AGENDA WE HAVE NOTHING UNDER HEARINGS RESOLUTIONS AND ORDINANCES SO WE'RE GOING MOVE ON TO ITEM FIVE OUR ORGANIZATIONAL BUSINESS AND GO TO ITEM 5.12 RIGHT AWAY. PERMITTING CODES UPDATES DISCUSSION ITEM BRIAN HANSEN, OUR DEVELOPMENT COORDINATOR IS WITH US THIS EVENING PRETTY MUCH GOT THE STAGE TO YOURSELF TONIGHT BRIAN. THIS IS I KNOW IT'S AN INTIMATE GATHERING HERE. IT IS KIND OF LIKE IT IS GOOD SO YES. GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS MEMBERS . TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES. PLEASE STAND BY FOR YOURSELF. I CAN SHARE I MEAN I CAN LOG ON TO THE WEBEX. I SUPPOSE I CAN SEARCH MY COMPUTER TO THAT'S NOT WHAT YOU WERE WONDERING. I SAW YOUR I DO BUT THEY'RE JUST NOTES GO. OH, OKAY. IS IT IF IT'S IN THE PACKET WE CAN ALL SURE ME IF THAT WORKS FOR YOU GUYS I LIKE I CAN OPEN UP ON IT WE CAN DO IT THIS WAY . OH YOU OH I SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING OKAY. ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT. THERE YOU GO. LET ME GO TO THE AND DON'T LOOK AT MY AND YOU MIGHT WANT TO I DON'T TRUST THAT THAT'S ALL . WELL, ALL RIGHT. I'LL WORK WE GOT TO WORK AROUND. ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBERS. I'M HERE THIS EVENING TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT OUR RIGHT OF WAY PERMITTING AND SOME PROPOSED CITY CODE UPDATES BASED ON SOME OF THE LESSONS WE'VE LEARNED LAST YEAR. SO BRIEFLY I KIND OF WANT TO GO OVER SOME BACKGROUND. I KNOW THAT MOST OF YOU ARE AND ALL OF YOU ARE PROBABLY AWARE EITHER YOU HEARD FROM FROM PEOPLE YOU REPRESENT AND OR IMPACTED BY PERSONALLY LAST YEAR WITH A LOT OF THE FIBER STUFF WHICH IS REALLY THE I SHOULD SAY THE FIBER INSTALLATION WHICH IS REALLY KIND OF THE IMPETUS BEHIND THAT. BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I THE CONVERSATION THIS APPLIES TO ALL RIGHT AWAY UTILITY PERMITTING SO NOT JUST THE FIBER EVEN THOUGH THAT WAS AN IMPETUS BEHIND THAT I DON'T WANT TO FORGET IT KIND OF ALL OF OUR LEGACY PROVIDERS ARE CENTER POINT IN OUR EXCEL BECAUSE THIS WILL APPLY TO ALL UTILITY PROVIDERS. SO JUST FOR SOMEOME BACKGROUND FOR THE COUNCIL IN 2023 WE DID MAKE SOME CHANGES TO STREAMLINE THE FEES THAT ARE CHARGED OR RIGHT AWAY PERMITTING PRIOR TO 2023 WE HAD A VERY CONVOLUTED ID METHODOLOGY FOR APPLYING FOR USE TO RIGHT AWAY UTILITY PERMITS. YEAH, EVERYTHING WAS ITEMIZED. IT WAS VERY CUMBERSOME FOR THE APPLICANT. IT ALSO TOOK LOT OF TIME FOR STAFF. SO CHANGES ARE MADE IN 2023 TO KIND OF STREAMLINE THE PROCESS WHICH WAS VERY HELPFUL AND A GREAT START IN 2021 THE BIPARTISAN INFRASTRUCTURE LAW AND INFRASTRUCTURE INVESTMENT JOBS ACT WAS PASSED BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND THAT RELEASED CERTAIN MONEYS THAT WERE PUT TOWARDS INSTALLATION OF HIGH SPEED FIBER THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY. SO THAT REALLY PRECIPITATED KIND OF THE INFLUX IN FIBER FIBERS THAT WE SAW HERE IN BLOOMINGTON AND THAT CAME TO A HEAD THIS PAST YEAR AS ALL OF YOU ARE WELL AWARE WE SAW ABOUT A FOUR TIME INCREASE FROM PERMITS ISSUED IN 2024 VERSUS JUST IN 2021. SO LAST YEAR WE PERMITTED JUST OVER 1.1 MILLION LINEAR FEET OF UNDERGROUND INFRASTRUCTURE INSTALLATION AND ANOTHER 500,000 FEET OF AERIAL WERE JUST LAST YEAR IN 2024. IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT IN LAST YEAR IN JUNE WE SWITCHED THE PERMITTING ACTIVITIES FROM OUR UTILITY STAFF TO ENGINEERING SO THAT CAME OVER TO ENGINEERING AT THAT TIME WE ALSO BACKFILLED THREE OPEN POSITIONS. WE HIRED THREE UTILITY SERVICE SPECIALISTS WHO STARTED BETWEEN MAY AND JUNE. WE ALSO HAD TO CONSULTANT ENGINEER INSPECTORS WHO WERE ON STAFF WITH US THROUGHOUT THE REST OF THE SEASON. THEY STARTED IN JULY AND THEN WE ALSO HAD TWO STREET MAINTENANCE STAFF THAT WERE DEDICATED FULL TIME TO RIGHT AWAY PERMITTING THEY WERE ABLE TO WERE ABLE TO UTILIZE THAT YEAR. IN ADDITION WE HAD OUR THREE OFFICE SUPPORT SPECIALISTS IN ENGINEERING THAT WERE VERY MUCH INVOLVED IN THAT AS WELL AS YOU KNOW UTILITIES WAS INVOLVED THROUGHOUT THE YEAR FLEET MAINTENANCE SO IT REALLY WAS A PUBLIC WORKS WIDE EFFORT TO REALLY KIND OF MANAGE THIS AND WE WERE LEARNING ON THE FLY AND AS WE WENT AND OBVIOUSLY THERE WERE SOME TOUGH TIMES I'M SURE YOU GUYS ARE ALL AWARE I KNOW THAT SOME OF YOU EXPERIENCED THOSE PERSONALLY BUT I THINK WE LEARNED A LOT AND THE PURPOSE OF TONIGHT IS TO KIND OF AFTER THE SEASON WAS ALREADY KIND OF TOOK A REFLECTION LOOK BACK AND WHAT DID WE LEARN? WHAT CAN WE IMPLEMENT TO MAKE NEXT YEAR GO BETTER? AND I THINK SOME OF THESE AND SOME OF THESE PROPOSALS WILL HELP US DO THAT IN 2025 AND BEYOND. SO I HAVE FOUR KIND OF TOPIC AREAS I WANT TO TOUCH ON HERE TONIGHT IF IT'S OKAY WITH WITH THE COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR, MY THOUGHT IS I WOULD GO THROUGH EACH OF THESE KIND OF PAUSE, GET YOUR FEEDBACK, KIND OF GIVE A THUMBS UP, THUMBS DOWN AND THEN MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ONE IF THAT'S OKAY WITH ALL OF YOU I'M SAYING NOT SO WE'LL GO THROUGH THOSE SO THE FOUR ITEMS I WANT TO TALK ABOUT TONIGHT OUR FEE STRUCTURE RESTORATION REQUIREMENTS WINTER MORATORIUM DATES AND THEN REMOVING REGISTRATION REQUIREMENTS THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE. SO I'LL START WITH FEE STRUCTURE. SO AS I MENTIONED PRIOR TO 2023 WE HAD A VERY CONVOLUTED METHODOLOGY FOR DETERMINING WHAT THE FEES WERE. THE IDEA IN 2023 WAS LET'S SIMPLIFY IT FOR THE USERS AS WELL AS FOR STAFF. SO WE CAN KIND OF BE MORE EFFICIENT IN HOW WE USE OUR TIME. SO THE CURRENT RIGHT AWAY PERMIT FEE STRUCTURE IS SET UP THIS WAY SO WE HAVE A FLAT FEE FOR A MAXIMUM LENGTH OF UP TO HALF A MILE OR 2640 FEET AND THAT APPLIES ANY RIGHT AWAY UNDERGROUND PERMITS YOU CAN PERMIT UP TO THAT AMOUNT UNDER ONE PERMIT AND THEN AFTER THAT AMOUNT OF FOOTAGE YOU HAVE TO APPLY FOR ANOTHER. ADDITIONALLY WE HAVE $150 FLAT FEE FOR RESIDENTIAL AND WATER AND SEWER REPAIRS SO THESE ARE TYPICALLY SHORTER LINES. THE THE LIGHT AVERAGE LENGTH OF THIS IS LESS THAN 100 FEET. SO THE IDEA WAS LET'S HAVE A LOWER FEE FOR THOSE TYPE OF INSTALLATIONS BECAUSE THAT'S REQUISITE OF THE AMOUNT OF STAFF TIME AND REVIEW TIME NEEDED FOR A PERMIT OF THAT TYPE. ADDITIONALLY WE HAVE A $36 RIGHT AWAY PROCESSING FEE THAT'S JUST APPLIED TO ANY RIGHT AWAY PERMITTING FEE. SO THAT'S OUR CURRENT FEE STRUCTURE. SO AS WE EMBARKED ON THE FIBER WORK LAST YEAR AND THE INFLUX OF PERMITS THE INFLUX OF WORK IN THE CITY WE RAN INTO SOME ISSUES THAT DID COME UP. YOU CAN SEE HERE THAT WE ISSUED THE TOTAL NUMBER RIGHT AWAY. PERMITS WAS JUST ABOUT 1500 PERMITS. LIKE I SAID THAT WAS FOUR TIMES AS MANY AS 2021 THE TOTAL RIGHT AWAY PERMITS FOR FIBER WAS ABOUT 700. ALMOST HALF OF THOSE WERE RELATED TO FIBER INSTALLATION AND YOU CAN SEE THAT TOTAL FOOTAGE OF CONDUIT INSTALLED WAS ALMOST, YOU KNOW, JUST SHORT OF A MILLION FEET. SO A MAJORITY OF THE WORK THAT WE SAW LAST YEAR WAS RELATED TO THE FIBER INSTALLATION, THE FIBER TO HOME INSTALLATION HERE IN BLOOMINGTON. NOW THIS CAUSED CHALLENGES BECAUSE LIKE I SAID WE WERE CAPPED OR THEY WERE CAPPED AT THAT HALF MILE FOOTAGE PER PERMIT ISSUANCE. SO THE WAY THAT THESE PERMITS ARE SET UP AND THE WAY THE INSTALLATIONS ARE GOING ON THROUGHOUT THE CITY IS WE HAVE THREE MAJOR PROVIDERS CURRENTLY THAT ARE IN THE CITY INSTALLING HIGH SPEED FIBER AND THEY'VE BROKEN UP THE CITY INTO INSTALLATION OR SERVICE AREAS. THEY HAVE DIFFERENT NAMES FOR THEM BUT THERE ARE ESSENTIALLY GEOGRAPHICAL AREAS WITHIN THE CITY WHERE THEY HAVE A PLAN SET THAT SAYS HERE'S HOW WE'RE GOING TO BUILD OUT OF THIS PARTICULAR AREA AND THEN THEY PERMIT FOR THOSE AND THEY KIND OF WORK THROUGH EACH ONE OF THOSE AREAS. SO ON AVERAGE THAT'S ABOUT 45,000 LINEAR FEET. THAT'S WHAT EACH SERVICE AREA IS AND IT VARIES. SOME ARE LARGER, SOME ARE LITTLE SMALLER. THAT'S ABOUT AVERAGE AREA. SO YOU CAN IMAGINE IF YOU ONLY CAN GET A HALF MILE OR 2650 IN THERE THERE'S A NUMBER OF PERMITS THAT ARE REQUIRED FOR EACH SERVICE AREA WHICH REQUIRES THEM TO APPLY EACH TIME THAT'S PAPERWORK, THAT'S PROCESSING, THAT'S INTAKE, THAT'S REVIEWING AND THEN GETTING THOSE PERMITS OUT AND THEN BEING ABLE TO MANAGE AND UNDERSTAND WHICH PERMITS ARE BEING USED, WHO'S WORKING UNDER WHICH PERFORMING AT ONE TIME IT CAN CREATE A LOT OF PAPERWORK, A LOT OF A LOT OF HEADACHES FOR STAFF AS WELL AS FOR THE APPLICANT TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT HAVE THEY APPLIED FOR YET WHAT STREETS, WHAT AREAS, WHERE ARE THEY GOING TO APPLY FOR MOVING FORWARD? SO THIS IS JUST A VERY ROUGH EXAMPLE ON THE RIGHT HERE YOU CAN IMAGINE THAT THAT WAS JUST A PLAN SHEET AND THIS IS PRETTY COMMON WHERE YOU'LL SEE MULTIPLE STREETS ON A PLAN SHEET IN A GIVEN SET AND LIKE I SAID FOR A SERVICE AREA IT'S NOT UNCOMMON TO FIND 50 TO 60 PAGES WITHIN A SERVICE AREA THAT SOMEONE HAS TO REVIEW WITH EACH PERMIT APPLICATION. SO AS COMPANIES WANT TO MAXIMIZE THE AMOUNT OF FOOTAGE UNDER EACH PERMIT TO MAXIMIZE THE DOLLARS THEY'RE PAYING WHICH MAKES SENSE IT'S NOT UNCOMMON TO SEE ONE PLAN SHEET THAT'S BEEN INCLUDED IN THREE SEPARATE PERMITS. SO YOU CAN IMAGINE IF ONE STAFF MEMBER IS REVIEWING ONCE ONE SET OF PLANS OR ONE PERMIT APPLICATION EXCUSE ME AND A PLAN SAID THEY SAID THIS PLAN SET THIS PLAN SHEET COULD BE REVIEWED BY THREE DIFFERENT PEOPLE AS PART OF THREE DIFFERENT PERMITS. SO YOU CAN SEE THERE WOULD BE SOME CONFUSION IF SOMEONE IS REVIEWING A PLAN. THEY SAID SOMETHING BACK FOR CORRECTIONS TO THE APPLICANT, THEY SEND IT BACK TO US AND THEN THE NEXT STAFF MEMBER IS REVIEWING IT. SO IT'S VERY INEFFICIENT AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS TRY TO SAY LET'S ALLOW IS THERE A WAY THAT WE CAN HAVE THE APPLICANTS APPLY FOR A SERVICE AREA UNDER ONE PERMIT SO WE CAN REVIEW THE WHOLE PLANS AT ONE TIME, MAKE THE COMMENTS, GET THEM BACK AND THEN KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON. SO AGAIN CURRENT FEE STRUCTURE DOESN'T DIFFERENTIATE BETWEEN UNDERGROUND AERIAL SO A MAJORITY OF THE PERMITS ISSUED LAST YEAR WERE FOR UNDERGROUND SO THE UNDERGROUND BORING THE THE DRILLING UNDERGROUND BUT THERE'S ALSO A LOT OF PROVIDERS THAT ARE DOING AERIAL WORK ON EXISTING POLES SO THEY'LL BE GOING THROUGH AND WIRING UP FIBER OPTIC OR UTILITIES ON THOSE OVERHEAD POLES. OBVIOUSLY THIS REQUIRES LESS STAFF TIME TO REVIEW BECAUSE THERE'S NOT AS MUCH TO LOOK AT. THERE'S NOT AS MANY CONFLICTS OBVIOUSLY WITH OTHER UNDERGROUND INFRASTRUCTURE AND UTILITIES IN PLACE. THERE'S NOT AS MUCH RESTORATION EITHER AS FAR AS THE DISRUPTION TO THE GROUND. NOW I KNOW THERE IS SOME BEEN SOME DISRUPTION TO OTHER THINGS THAT WE'LL GET INTO HERE A LITTLE BIT BUT THEY DO REQUIRE LESS STAFF TIME AND WE DON'T HAVE A WHERE CURRENTLY OUR CURRENT FEE STRUCTURE WE APPLY THE SAME FEES TO BOTH AERIAL AND UNDERGROUND. ANOTHER ISSUE OR OUR THING FOR NOTE IS NEIGHBORING COMMUNITIES HAVE THESE STRUCTURES THAT ARE BASED ON A BASE FEE AND THEN A PER FOOT RATE OBVIOUSLY HERE'S A I'M NOT GOING TO READ ALL THESE OFFERED. YOU CAN KIND OF SEE KIND OF HOW SOME OTHER NEIGHBORING COMMUNITIES HAVE THEIR FEES SET UP FOR THIS OF WORK SO A BASE FEE UP TO A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF FOOTAGE AND THEN AFTER THAT FOOTAGE THEY WOULD APPLY A PERFECT COST. YOU CAN SEE DIANE JUST HAS A STREET FOR EVERY HUNDRED FEET YOU PAY A COST AT 50 IS FOR IS FOR OPEN OR EXCUSE ME IS FOR OPEN TRENCH AND THE 75 IS FOR UNDERGROUND I BELIEVE SO DEPENDING ON THE TYPE OF CONSTRUCTION YOU PAY A DIFFERENT FEE SO THERE'S SOME DIFFERENT WAYS THAT ARE SET UP RIGHT HERE BUT IT'S NOT UNCOMMON TO SEE FEE STRUCTURES THAT ARE SET UP WITH A BASE FEE AND THEN A COST PER FOOT ABOVE A CERTAIN AMOUNT. SO WHAT WE'RE THINKING WHAT STAFF IS LOOKING AT IS CHANGING OUR FEE STRUCTURE SO WE WOULD CHANGE OUR RIGHT AWAY ARE PROPOSING TO CHANGE OUR RIGHT AWAY UNDERGROUND FEE TO $150 BASE RATE UP TO 100 FEET AND THEN AFTER THAT WOULD BE A RATE OF $0.40 PER FOOT. THE REASON HOW WE CAME UP WITH 250 IS THAT MATCHES ARE CURRENT UTILITY AND WATER CONNECTION RATE. SO FOR THOSE SHORTER UTILITY CONNECTIONS TO YOU KNOW BRINGING WATER OR SANITARY SEWER TO A HOME OR A RESIDENTIAL PARCEL, THAT FEE WOULD REMAIN THE SAME STILL REMAIN UNCHANGED AND THEN SO THAT COVERS 100 FEET AFTER THAT WOULD BE AT THAT $0.40 PER FOOT. ADDITIONALLY WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT AERIAL FEE SO AGAIN THAT REQUIRES LESS STAFF TIME. THERE'S LESS THERE'S LESS TIME IN REVIEW FOR THOSE PERMITS AS WELL. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT REDUCING THAT UPFRONT RATE TO $120 FOR THAT FIRST HUNDRED FEET AND THEN AGAIN AT $0.20 PER FOOT AFTER THAT. AND THEN ALSO REMOVING THAT RIGHT AWAY A PROCESSING FEE JUST AS A MATTER OF CLEANING THINGS UP AND MAKING IT MORE STREAMLINED BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE CAPTURED. THIS PROPOSED FEE IS RIGHT HERE AND THE REASON BEHIND THIS AS WELL IS TO ALLOW FOR THOSE LARGER AREAS. SO THE GOAL OF KIND OF THIS RESTRUCTURING IS TO ALLOW FOR AN APPLICANT TO APPLY FOR A LARGER SERVICE AREA UNDER A SINGLE PERMIT TO BE MORE EFFICIENT IN HOW WE REVIEW THOSE PLANS, BE ABLE TO SUBMIT THOSE ONCE AS A FULL PLAN SET, HAVE STAFF TO REVIEW THOSE AND THEY CAN WORK IN THAT FULL SERVICE AREA UNDER A SINGLE PERMIT AS OPPOSED TO THE MULTIPLE PERMITS THEY HAVE TO DO RIGHT NOW. EXCUSE ME IF I COULD ASK. ABSOLUTELY. SO IS THERE A A PER FOOT OR IS THERE A FOOTAGE LIMIT OR COULD THEY LITERALLY GO FROM ONE END OF THE CITY TO THE OTHER ON ONE PERMIT? THAT IS A GREAT QUESTION. I'M GOING TO GET THAT IN THE SECOND ONE IF I CAN TOU THAT ON THAT IN THE SECOND PORTION. BUT THAT'S THAT'S ONE THING WE ALSO CONSIDER AS WELL. OKAY. THANK YOU. VERY GOOD QUESTION. SO THE EXAMPLE PROPOSED FEES THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT SO IF THEY WERE PERMITTING FOR HALF A MILE 26, 40 LINEAR FEET, YOU KNOW, SET OUR PREVIOUS FEE OUR CURRENT FEE I SHOULD SAY IS 560 PLUS THAT PLAN REVIEW FEE WHICH COULD SEE THE 596 SO YOU CAN SEE ON THE RIGHT THERE IT GIVES YOU AN EXAMPLE SO IF SOMEONE IS DOING THAT SAME DISTANCE UNDERGROUND THE COST WOULD INCREASE. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT YOU KNOW, ROUGHLY 1166 THERE ARE BASED ON THIS FOR THE AERIAL SO IF THEY'RE DOING RIGHT NOW THAT WOULD BE PRETTY COMPARABLE TO THE CURRENT FEE. SO IT'LL GO UP A LITTLE BIT OR GO UP YOU KNOW WHAT $34 THERE OR $36 EXCUSE ME BUT IT WOULD BE IN THE BALLPARK OF THE OF THE OTHER FEE WE CURRENTLY HAVE HERE. SO AND I DID WANT TO THIS AND THIS IS BASED ON LIKE I SAID THE MAXIMUM FOOTAGE THAT OUR CURRENT FEE STRUCTURE ALLOWS. I ALSO WANT TO LOOK AT WHAT AVERAGE CENTERPOINT AND EXCEL IS BECAUSE I KNOW THIS IS IMPORTANT AS WELL. LIKE I SAID WE'RE FOCUSED A LOT ON THIS FIBER RIGHT NOW BUT WE ANTICIPATE THIS TO BE A 3 TO 5 YEAR SPIKE AND THEN THEY'LL BE BUILT OUT AND THEY'LL BE GONE AND THIS SHOULD HOPEFULLY NORMALIZE. WE WON'T SEE AS MUCH DISTURBANCE AS WE HAVE THIS PAST YEAR AND WE ANTICIPATE THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS. SO LOOKING AT THAT, THIS IS BASED ON THE PERMITS THAT WERE PULLED IN 2024 FOR BOTH THE PROVIDERS AND WE JUST TOOK THE AVERAGE ROUGH AVERAGE OF THE DISTANCE INCLUDED IN EACH PERMIT. SO YOU CAN SEE THERE THE AVERAGE LENGTH IN 2024 AT LEAST FOR CENTERPOINT WAS WAS AROUND 1900 FEET FOR PER PERMIT. SO YOU CAN SEE HOW THAT WOULD MATH WOULD WOULD WOULD BREAK DOWN VERSUS THE CURRENT FEE STRUCTURE. AND THEN FOR XCEL THE AVERAGE LENGTH IS A LITTLE LESS SO ACTUALLY FOR THE AVERAGE PERMIT IN 2024 THE TOTAL FEE COST FOR AN XCEL PERMIT BASED ON THE AVERAGE FOOTAGE IN 2024 WOULD ACTUALLY DECREASE IN THIS PLAN. SO AT THIS POINT I WANTED TO PAUSE AND GET ANSWER QUESTIONS TO THE MAYORS QUESTION ABOUT THE MAXIMUM DISTANCE WE'LL GET INTO THAT IN THE NEXT SEGMENT HERE AND THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION BUT I GUESS I WANTED TO GET FEEDBACK FROM THE COUNCIL IF THEY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PROPOSED FEE STRUCTURE, RAISE CONCERNS AND JUST KIND OF ANYONE HAS ANYTHING I CAN ANSWER AT THIS POINT RIGHT NOW. COUNCILMEMBER NELSON, THANK YOU MAYOR. I GUESS MY QUESTION IS RELATED TO JUST THE OVERALL IS THERE A WAY TO RELATE WHAT OUR OVERALL COST IS OF A CITY TO DO THE PERMIT INSPECTION? YOU MENTIONED THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THERE VERSUS HOW MUCH WE COLLECT ON THAT AND THEN TANGENTIAL QUESTION IS WHAT IMPACT WILL THAT HAVE ON OUR BUDGET FOR THE YEAR? YEAH, I THINK THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. YOU MR. MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBER SO CURRENTLY LIKE I SAID WITH THE 596 WE HAVE PULLED THAT I WOULD HAVE THAT FOR YOU BEFORE I COME BACK FOR A FORMAL ACTION BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT UNDER A CURRENT PERMIT NOW WE ARE HAVING FIELD STAFF THAT NEED TO GO OUT THERE AND DO PRE-CONSTRUCTION INSPECTIONS GO OUT THERE DURING CONSTRUCTION, MULTIPLE VISITS AND THAT 596 IS NOT COVERING THE STAFF TIME EVEN IN THE FIELD NOT INCLUDING THE REVIEW TIME RIGHT NOW AND THE REVIEW TIME IS REALLY IT'S NOT VERY EFFICIENT BECAUSE THEY'RE REVIEWING MULTIPLE PLANS THE SAME PLAN MULTIPLE TIMES. SO THAT'S ONE THING THAT WE WOULD TRACK IF THESE CHANGES WERE MADE AND IF WE NEEDED TO REDUCE THAT BASE FIGURE THAT PER FOOT FOR YOU TO ALIGN WITH THE ACTUAL STAFF TIME AND THE COST OF THE CITY, WE WOULD DEFINITELY DO THAT. THIS IS BASED ON OUR BEST GUESSTIMATE RIGHT NOW BUT WE DID IT. PAUL THE NUMBERS FOR STAFF TIME DEDICATED TO RIGHT AWAY PERMITTING IN 2024 SO I DO HAVE THOSE AND I WOULD BREAK THAT DOWN AND BRING THAT BACK BEFORE THE COUNCIL BEFORE FORMAL ACTION. SO THANK YOU. AND THEN YOU PERSONALLY ADDRESS THIS IS THE THE FIREBIRD WHICH IS CAUSE A LOT OF THE COMMUNICATION TO US AND PROBABLY AND CHALLENGES OBVIOUSLY FOR YOU IS 3 TO 5 YEARS HAVE YOU FORECAST WHAT THIS FEE STRUCTURE LOOKS LIKE ONCE THAT'S KIND OF COMPLETED AND YOU SAID YOU LOOK AT CENTERPOINT XCEL AND SEE WHERE THAT IS BUT IF YOU LOOK AT ALSO THE COST SIDE ON THE CITY SIDE, WHAT DOES IT COST TO DO THAT? ARE WE GOING TO BE AT LEAST CLOSELY IN BALANCE AT THAT TIME OR WILL IT TO BE REVIEWED? YEAH, I THINK MY ANTICIPATION IS THAT AMOUNT OF WORK AND THE STAFF TIME NEEDED FOR I'LL CALL IT MORE OF OUR LEGACY PROVIDERS THE EXCEL'S THE CENTER POINTS WOULD MOST LIKELY DECREASE BASED ON THE WHAT'S THE FIBER IS BUILT OUT I THINK WE'LL HAVE LESS STAFF TIME DEDICATED TO THAT AT THAT POINT I THINK WE MAY NEED TO ADJUST OUR FEE STRUCTURE ACCORDINGLY TO MATCH THE TIME SPENT BUT I WOULD STILL RECOMMEND KEEPING THE STRUCTURE WITH A BASE FEE AT A PERFECT FEE. NOW THE DOLLAR BALANCE MAY HAVE TO CHANGE TO COME INTO LINE BUT I THINK THAT'S A MORE DOABLE STRUCTURE FROM A PROCESS AND ALSO IS COMMON WITH OTHER NEIGHBORING CITIES. SO I WOULD I WOULD RECOMMEND TO CONTINUE THAT AND THEN WE COULD JUST CAN ADJUST THE BASE AND THE PER FOOT FEE AS NEEDED. AND I WOULD JUST SAY BASED ON WHAT KNOW RIGHT NOW AND BASED ON THIS I WOULD SUPPORT THE STRUCTURE AND THEN I ASSUME THERE WILL BE PERIODIC REVIEWS OF IT BECAUSE WAGES GO UP AND COSTS CHANGE AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO ABSOLUTELY. MR. MAYOR COUNCILOR DOES I VISION THIS SIMILAR TO WHEN WE IMPLEMENTED THE SMALL SCALE PERMITTING WE SET THAT FEE. WE MADE A COMMITMENT TO GO BACK AND REVIEW EVERY YEAR WE REVIEWED THE STAFF TIME COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT AND WE HAVE ADJUSTED THAT AND CONTINUE TO LOOK AT THAT ON THE ANNUAL BASIS AND I WOULD ANTICIPATE SOMETHING SIMILAR WITH THIS IF THIS WERE TO BE CHANGED. COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO THANK YOU MAYOR. GOOD EVENING. I'M CURIOUS TO THE DECISION MAKING BEHIND GOING WITH A UP TO 100 AND THEN A PER FOOT FEE AFTER THAT VERSUS THE I GUESS THE DINAH AND OTHER FOLKS MODEL WHERE IT WAS JUST LIKE I'M GOING TO CHARGE YOU X EVERY 100 FEET. I WONDER WHAT YOUR METHODOLOGY WAS THERE IT WAS MORE TO BECAUSE AS YOU GET BEYOND I GUESS IN OUR IN OUR ANALYSIS WHEN YOU GET BEYOND A NUMBER THE 100 FEET IS IT ALIGNS WITH THE WATER AND SANITARY SEWER SERVICES AND WHAT WE'RE CHARGING CURNTLY. SO WE DIDN'T WANT TO INCREASE THAT FIGURE TO THOSE TYPE OF CONNECTIONS FOR THOSE. SO THAT WAS THAT'S WHERE WE START WITH THE 150 AFTER THAT AS YOU GET INTO LONGER RUNS AS IS THE PLAN SHEETS INCREASE TYPICALLY THE AMOUNT OF REVIEW THE COMMENTS ARE THE SAME COMMENTS OVER AND OVER DEPEND YOU KNOW THERE MAY BE CERTAIN SITES WE NEED TO LOOK INTO BUT REALLY THAT STAFF TIME AS YOU ACTUALLY SPEND THAT LONGER IT'S MORE JUST THE AMOUNT OF REVIEW OF PER SHEET ACTUALLY DIMINISHES BECAUSE LIKE I SAID THE COMMENTS BECOME REDUNDANT SO YOU CAN YOU CAN REVIEW IT A LITTLE FASTER SO THAT'S KIND OF HOW I MEAN IF IT'S THE THE THOUGHT OF THE COUNCIL THAT THEY WANT TO HAVE A BASE FEE PER 100 FEET, WE COULD DO THAT AS WELL AND JUST KEEP THAT AND JUST ADD THAT UP KIND OF HOW THE DINER DOES THAT WHERE THAT 75 AND 50 IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S MORE PALATABLE TO THE COUNCIL WE CAN DEFINITELY CONSIDER THAT YOU KNOW I WAS JUST KIND OF CURIOUS THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND MR. MAYOR, I WAS JUST KIND OF CURIOUS IF THERE WAS SOME REASONING FOR WHY. I MEAN IT'S IT'S LESS EXPENSIVE THIS WAY THAN THAN THE OTHER WAY. AND IF THE IF WHAT I'M HEARING YOU SAY IS THAT WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WEREN'T OVERCHARGING FOR THE SAKE OF IT WHEN WE WERE JUST REALLY TRYING TO COVER COSTS AND THAT'S REASONABLE. THANK YOU. THANKS, COUNCILMEMBER. THEY FIRST I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU MR. HANSER FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD. I THINK THAT'S BEEN OUR MESSAGE TO STAFF IS HOW COULD BE MORE EFFICIENT AND CUT DOWN COSTS AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DOING THE RIGHT THINGS AND GETTING BACK TO BASICS. SO I APPRECIATE THAT. MY QUESTION REALLY IS SPECIFICALLY AT SOME POINTS BECAUSE WE'RE SEEING THE COSTS INCREASE FOR THE AVERAGE. RIGHT. AND SO I'M WONDERING WHERE THAT COSTCO I'M ASSUMING IT'S GOING TO GET PASSED ON TO CONSUMERS. AND SO THAT'S THAT'S ONE OF MY CONCERNS ESPECIALLY WITH OUR LEGACY PROVIDERS WHO ARE GOING CONTINUE TO BE IN THE COMMUNITY, WHO ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO HAVE A LOT OF WORK BEYOND THE NEXT THREE OR FIVE YEARS LIKE THE FIBER IS. HAVE WE HAD CONVERSATION WITH CENTERPOINT ABOUT THIS AND AND WHAT DO OTHER CITIES DO TO KIND OF MANAGE THE INCREASE THAT WE WOULD SEE HERE WITH THIS CHANGE? YEAH. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. COUNCILMEMBER SO FOLLOWING TONIGHT'S MEETING I PLAN TO REACH OUT. I HAVE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH XCEL ENERGY ALREADY. THEY HAD UNDERSTOOD THAT WE WERE PROPOSING SOME CHANGES AND I TOLD THEM THAT WE WOULD BE GOING TO THE COUNCIL MEETING THIS EVENING SHARING THOSE WITH THE COUNCIL FOLLOWING THAT, HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM. SO MY INTENTION KIND OF SPOILER ALERT TO THE END OF THE SLIDES HERE BUT JUST TO MEET WITH ALL THE UTILITY PROVIDERS, THE FIBER PROVIDERS AS WELL AS THE XCEL'S THE CENTER POINTS AND SHARE THIS WITH THEM AND GET THEIR FEEDBACK SO AND I WOULD BRING THAT BEFORE THE COUNCIL PRIOR TO ANY FORMAL ACTION SO THAT IS PART OF THE WORK AND IT MAY BE I MEAN YOU KNOW THIS IS A STARTING POINT AS FAR AS THE FEES AND THAT BASED ON 150 AND 40 OF THE FEEDBACK WE RECEIVE YOU IF WE DIG IN TO THE COSTS THAT STAFF PUT TOWARDS IT LAST YEAR IF THAT NEEDS TO BE ADJUSTED DOWN TO JUST COVER OUR COST AND WE ARE ABLE TO DO THAT, WE'RE DEFINITELY OPEN TO DOING THAT. SO THE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS COUNCIL HONORED. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. ALL RIGHT. SO THE NEXT TIME I WANT TO TALK ABOUT IS RESTORATION REQUIREMENTS AND I KNOW THIS IS A BIG ONE. THIS GENERATES THE MOST OF OUR INQUIRIES STAFF I'M SURE IT'S GENERATING THE MOST OF THE INCREASE THAT YOU'RE RECEIVING FROM YOUR CONSTITUENTS. SO CURRENTLY WE DO HAVE SOME LANGUAGE IN THE CITY CODE AND THERE'S A COUPLE OF SECTIONS HERE THAT RELATE TO TIMELINESS OF WORK AND THEN ALSO PATCHING AND RESTORATION OF THE RIGHT OF WAY. SO WE REFERENCED THIS THERE'S REQUIREMENTS. THESE ARE PART OF THE PERMIT. THE ISSUE WE HAVE RIGHT NOW IS WE DON'T REALLY HAVE A GOOD MECHANISM TO ENSURE THAT THIS IS DONE BEFORE ADDITIONAL FORWARD WORK CONTINUES THE WAY THAT THIS IS BEING ROLLED OUT AND AGAIN I'M SPEAKING DIRECTLY TO FIBER IS THAT YOU KNOW INSTALLERS ARE GETTING PAID BY THE FOOT SO THEY'RE GETTING PAID FOR HOW MUCH CONDUIT THEY PUT IN THE GROUND . THEY CAN PULL FIBER THROUGH SO THAT THE PROVIDERS CAN LIGHT THAT UP AND SELL THAT SERVICE TO THE NEIGHBORS. SO THAT'S THEIR MOTIVATION. THEY WANT TO GET THAT IN THE GROUND THE RESTORATION IS PART OF THE WORK. I DON'T WANT TO DISPARAGE THEM AND SAYING THAT THAT'S IMPORTANT BUT THAT'S NOT HOW THEY'RE GETTING PAID. SO IT'S KIND OF NOT AN BUT IT'S NOT A HIGH PRIORITY FOR THE FOR THE PROVIDERS UNTIL STAFF GETS ON THEM TELLS THEM IT NEEDS TO BE DONE AND TO DATE ARE RECOURSE HAS BEEN TO SHUT THEM DOWN SO WE HAD TO DO THAT WITH MULTIPLE PROVIDERS LAST YEAR AT MULTIPLE TIMES WHERE THE RESTORATIONS GOT SO FAR BEHIND WE WERE HEARING FROM THINGS WE'RE SEEING THINGS WE SAID YOU NEED TO FIX ANY RESTORATIONS FOR ANY FORWARD WORK AND MOVE FORWARD BUT DIDN'T REALLY HAVE A GOOD MECHANISM TO DO SO OUTSIDE OF THAT. SO AND AGAIN SHUTTING THEM DOWN HAS A DOWNSIDE TOO BECAUSE THEY WOULD FOCUS A LOT ON GETTING THAT RESTORATION DONE BUT THEN ONCE THEY'RE ABLE TO DO WORK AGAIN THEY'RE DOING CATCH UP SO THEY'RE REALLY PUSHING TO GET THAT WORK DONE AND THAT CAN CAUSE ISSUES WITH NOT DOING THE LOCATES PROPERLY AND OTHER THINGS. SO IT KIND OF SNOWBALLED ON ITSELF. SO IT WASN'T GOOD FOR US. IT WASN'T GOOD FOR THE PROVIDER. SO WE'RE TRYING TO FIND A WAY THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT THAT RESTORATION WORK IS PRIORITIZED BY THE PROVIDERS AND GETS DONE BUT ALSO ALLOWS THEM TO CONTINUE WORK AND NOT SLOW THEM DOWN. SO AGAIN I THINK I MENTIONED SOME OF THE ISSUES AS DIFFICULT TO GET COMPLIANCE ON THOSE. WE SPENT A GOOD DEAL OF STAFF TIME GOING OUT AND DOCUMENTING SO WE'D GET CALLS FROM RESIDENTS SAYING HEY I GOT A HOLEN MY YARD THAT'S BEEN HERE FOR WEEKS. NO ONE'S COME BACK GOING ON OR THEY TORE UP MY GRASS. THEY HAVEN'T PLANTED ANYTHING YET. NO CEILING. THERE'S POTHOLES SO WHEN THEY HAVE TO GO INTO THE HARD SURFACE AND LOCATE THOSE UTILITIES WHEN THEY'RE MAKING THOSE CROSSINGS THEY HAVE THESE THEY DO HAVE A POTHOLE. THEY HAVEN'T FILLED THOSE BACK END. SO ALL OF THESE QUESTIONS THAT COME UP AND LIKE I SAID THERE'S NO MECHANISM TO RESTRICT THEIR WORK OUTSIDE OF STOPPING WORK WHICH IS CONTENTIOUS AND CAUSES ISSUES ARE BOTH SIDES AND LIKE I SAID THE MAJORITY OF THE COMPLAINTS AND THE FEEDBACK RECEIVED FROM RESIDENTS AND RIGHTFULLY SO IS RELATED TO RESTORATION. THEY'RE NOT AS INTERESTED IN THE PRODUCTIVITY OR HOW FAST THE STUFF IS GETTING INSTALLED. THEY WANT TO KNOW HOW IT IMPACTS THEIR YARD AND THEIR PROPERTY AND HOW IS THAT GOING TO BE RESOLVED. SO TO THE MAYOR'S QUESTION BEFORE ABOUT YOU KNOW, IF WE CHANGE THE PERMITS THE PERMIT STRUCTURE THEORETICALLY AN APPLICANT COULD APPLY FOR A PRODUCT FOR THE ENTIRE CITY, YOU KNOW, AS LONG AS THEY PAID THE FEE AND BASED ON THE FOOTAGE THEY COULD HAVE ONE PERMIT AND WORK THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE CITY UNDER ONE PERMIT SO IT STAFF IS PROPOSING IS TO ADD A MAXIMUM. SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE STARTING AT 50,000 TOTAL FEET OF UNDERGROUND INFRASTRUCTURE PERMITTED ACTIVE PER APPLICANT UNLESS AUTHORIZED BY THE CITY ENGINEER. SO A COUPLE OF THINGS. THE 50,000 IS BASED ON THAT SERVICE AREA I TALKED ABOUT BEFORE WHERE WE SAID ABOUT 45,000 WAS THE AVERAGE. SOME ARE SMALLER, SOME ARE LARGER. 50,000 IS KIND OF WHERE WE LANDED BASED LOOKING AT THE SERVICE AREAS THAT WE HAD SEEN TO DATE FROM THE VARIOUS PROVIDERS AND THAT ACTIVE MEANS THOSE ARE THE PERMITS THAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY ALLOWED TO BE WORKING ON. SO TO THE POINT I KNOW THERE'S SOME CONCERN FROM ONE OF THE SOME OF THE PROVIDERS ABOUT WELL, ARE WE GOING TO BE RESTRICTING OUR WORK OR NOT BE ABLE TO MAKE THE PROGRESS WE NEED? THEY CAN STILL APPLY FOR PERMITS, CAN GO THROUGH THE REVIEW PROCESS TO KIND OF GET THEM QUEUED UP IN THE QUEUE AND THEN ONCE A PERMIT HAS BEEN CLOSED OUT AS FAR AS THE RESTORATION GOES THEY CAN ACTIVATE PERMIT TO CONTINUE TO WORK YOU KNOW, UNINTERRUPTED. SO IT'S REALLY A MANAGEMENT OF THE PROJECT BY THE ACTUAL THE THE INSTALLERS AND HOW THEY MANAGE THAT THAT REALLY RESTRICTS OR ALLOWS WORK TO CONTINUE SO IT'S REALLY PUTS THE ONUS ON THE PERMIT APPLICANT SO IT DOESN'T RESTRICT AT 5000 TOTAL FEET OR 50,000 TOTAL FEET EXCUSE ME AND THEN NO OTHER WORK CAN BE DONE YOU JUST NEED TO HAVE YOUR RESTORATION DONE AND WHEN I SAY RESTORATION TO I SHOULD CLARIFY THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT ALL THE GRASS IS GROWN IN AND EVERYTHING IS GREEN LOOKS LIKE BEFORE IT MEANS THAT THE GRADING HAS BEEN DONE. IF THERE'S GRASS THAT'S BEEN PLANTED IT'S BEEN PLANTED AND IS STARTING TO ESTABLISH ITSELF IF THERE'S POTHOLES IN THE GROUND THAT THOSE ARE IN THE STREET THOSE ARE PATCHED PROPERLY PERMANENT PATCHES NOT JUST CLASS OR COLD MIXED IN THERE BUT THE ACTUAL BITUMINOUS THAT'S IN THERE. SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR AND ONCE THAT'S DONE THEN THEY CAN GO APPLY FOR DIFFERENT PERMITS. SO THAT'S HOW WE LANDED THE 50,000 TOTAL FEEDS AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE IN THERE IN LESS AUTHORIZED BY THE CITY ENGINEER BECAUSE WE UNDERSTAND THERE MAY BE SOME SERVICE AREAS THAT MAYBE GO 57,000 AND WE DON'T WANT TO MAKE THEM PULL TWO PERMITS AS IT MAKES SENSE. AGAIN TALKING ABOUT OTHER PLANS SET AS COMPLETE FOR A SERVICE AREA, WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THAT EASY FOR THEM AS WELL AS FOR STAFF. SO WE WANT TO HAVE A LITTLE AREA OF DISCRETION THERE AND THEN IT WOULD NOT INHIBIT THE ABILITY OF CENTERPOINT XCEL TO PERFORM THEIR WORK. SO AGAIN LAST YEAR LOOKED THE TOTAL NUMBER OF TOTAL FOOTAGE OF PERMITS THAT WERE APPLIED FOR BY BOTH OF THOSE AND CENTERPOINT LAST YEAR HAD A TOTAL OF JUST ABOUT 63,000 LINEAR FEET OF OF PERMITS SO THAT 50,000 ASSUMING THEY HAD YOU KNOW AND THEY HAD MULTIPLE PERMITS CAUSE THEY HAD SMALLER SMALLER SHOTS. SO AS LONG AS THEY RESTORED A HANDFUL OF THOSE THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO WORK UNINTERRUPTED SO WOULDN'T RESTRICT THEM FROM CONTINUING THEIR NORMAL WORK THROUGHOUT THE CITY. SAME THING FOR XCEL LAST YEAR THEY HAD 45,000 TOTAL LINEAR FEET OF PERMITS SO THAT WOULD BE FALL BELOW THAT 50,000. SO AGAIN NOT RESTRICTING THEM BECAUSE WE WANT TO BE COGNIZANT OF THAT AS WELL LIKE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE BECAUSE THIS FIBER WE ANTICIPATE IS GOING TO BE A TEMPORARY FLUX BUT THESE ONES ARE THE CENTER POINTS IN THE AXLES GOING TO BE AROUND FOR A LONG TIME. SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS WORKS FOR THEM TO SO WITH THAT I WILL IF I COULD ASK COUNSEL ANY QUESTIONS AND THAT WAS WE WERE THINKING THE SAME THING ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS COUNCIL? COUNCILMEMBER KERNAN AND COUNCILMEMBER THANK YOU MAYOR . SO MY UNDERSTANDING IS WHEN THEY RESTORE THEY'RE SUPPOSED LEAVE THE PROPERTY IN AS GOOD A SHAPE OR BETTER SHAPE. CORRECT HOW HOW YOU ALL KNOW THAT THEY HAVE DONE THAT WORK. YEAH AND THAT IS PART OF LET ME BACK UP SO WE HAVE INSPECTORS TO GO OUT IN THE FIELD AND DO THAT AND NEED TO SIGN OFF AND SAY THAT THIS HAS BEEN RESTORED RIGHT NOW WITH OUR CURRENT PROCESS THERE ARE SO MANY PERMITS OPEN IT'S HARD TO KNOW WHAT AREA OF THE CITY THAT PEOPLE ARE IN BECAUSE THEY MAY BE WORKING IN ONE AREA AND THEN THEY LEAVE AND THEY WORK ON AN ACTIVE PERMIT. ANOTHER AREA AND THEN BY THE TIME YOU GET BACK TO THAT PERMIT THEY'RE NOT SURE WHEN WAS THAT RESTORED OR WHEN WASN'T THAT RESTORED? OFTENTIMES IT'S THE APPLICANT SAYING WELL WITH THE 50,000 OR SOME KIND OF RESTRICTION THAT WOULD MOTIVATE THEM, WE HOPE TO SAY HEY, WE HAVE COMPLETED THIS. CAN YOU COME INSPECT THIS SO YOU CAN OFF THIS PERMIT SO WE CAN MOVE ON TO ANOTHER PERMIT RIGHT NOW IT IS BY AND I'LL BE HONEST THE THE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT WAS GOING ON LAST YEAR AND THE ISSUES THAT AROSE IN THE FIELD IS WE DIDN'T HAVE A LOT OF TIME FOR RESTORATION . WE WERE GOING AND DOING A LOT OF THAT LATE THIS FALL AND WE'LL BE DOING THAT AGAIN IN THE SPRING BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE TIME BEFORE THE SNOW CAME. SO A LOT OF THOSE PERMITS ARE STILL NOT CLOSED DOWN OR IN A WARRANTY STATUS. SO WE HAVEN'T SAID YES THE RESTORATION IS DONE YET. OFTENTIMES IT'S CALLS FROM RESIDENTS SAYING HEY, I GOT THEY'VE BEEN OUT HERE FOR THREE WEEKS THREE WEEKS AGO AND NOTHING'S BEEN DONE WHAT'S HAPPENED? SO WE WILL GO OUT THERE. WE HAVE A SOFTWARE CALLED SURVEY 123 WHERE AN INSPECTOR CAN TAKE A PICTURE OF THE AREA ,DOCUMENT THE ISSUE AND THEN WE HAVE THAT IN A SPREADSHEET AND THEN WE WILL WEEKLY SENDING THOSE TO THE CONTRACTOR SAYING HERE'S THE LIST OF AREAS THAT NEEDS TO BE RESTORED. YOU'VE GOT TO ADDRESS THESE WHEN YOU ADDRESS THEM LET US KNOW, LOOK OUT AND CHECK. BUT THAT'S NOT A COMPREHENSIVE LIST. THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT WE HEAR OF OR THAT WE SEE IT'S REALLY THE ONUS IS ON THE CONTRACTOR TO RESTORE THOSE. I KNOW THAT ONE OF THE CONTRACTORS IS IMPLEMENTING A SOFTWARE THIS COMING YEAR WHERE THEIR STAFF IS SUPPOSED TO TAKE PICTURES OF ALL THE DISTURBANCE AND DOCUMENT THAT SO THEY CAN TRACK WHEN IT'S RESTORED. I HAVEN'T SEEN THAT YET. THEY TOLD ME THEY HAD THAT LAST YEAR BUT IT WASN'T ACTIVE SO I'M HOPEFUL BUT I'M ALSO REALIST ABOUT THAT. SO THAT'S ONE OF THE THIS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON SO WE'VE TALKED ABOUT MAYBE AGAIN IF WE'RE ABLE TO KIND OF HONE IN THE AREA THAT THEY'RE WORKING IN TO UTILIZE OUR INTERNS TO GO OUT THERE ACTUALLY START TO DOCUMENT THAT STUFF TO STAY ON TOP OF IT BECAUSE THIS WAS THE BIGGEST ISSUE LAST YEAR FOR US. ONE OF THE BIGGEST ISSUES WAS MAKING SURE THE RESTORATION WAS AND THEN HAVING THESE BACK AND FORTH FROM THE STAFF TIME NEEDED TO TRACK DOWN WHAT WAS DONE AND WHAT WASN'T DONE. SO OKAY THAT'S SUPER I DO THINK IT MIGHT BE AND MAYBE THIS IS ALREADY IN PLACE BUT IT MIGHT BE NICE TO HAVE SOMETHING ON OUR WEBSITE WHERE PEOPLE RESIDENTS COULD SUBMIT . I KNOW THAT WE TELL PEOPLE TO EMAIL YOU KNOW, SEND BUT IF THERE WAS EVEN JUST A REALLY SIMPLE FORM ON OUR WEBSITE TO SAY YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVE A LINGERING ISSUE AND YOU DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW IF OR WHEN IT WILL BE RESOLVED, YOU KNOW, FILL OUT THIS FORM SO MAYBE YOU ALREADY HAVE THAT. THAT IS A GREAT THANK YOU. NOW I CAN DO THIS BECAUSE I HAVE THE COMPUTER HERE SO SO WE DO WE DID SET UP THIS WEBSITE LAST SO IT'S BLM DORTMUND FORWARD SLASH FIBER AND IF YOU GO IN HERE THERE'S INFORMATION WE'D TALK FIRST OF ALL IF WE TALK ABOUT WHAT FIBER OPTIC IS SO RESIDENTS CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT THE PROCESS IS AND THAT THIS IS A PRIVATE UTILITY THAT'S PERMITTED TO DO THE WORK IT ISN'T CITY WORK. WE HAVE CONTACT INFORMATION FOR ALL OF THE FIBER PROVIDERS IN THE CITY SO THESE ARE DIRECT CONTACTS TO THEM. SO WE CALL THESE NUMBERS TO ENSURE BECAUSE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT SOMEONE CALLS US ABOUT JUST GOING TO AN AUTOMATED KNOW VOICEMAIL THAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY GETTING A REAL PERSON ADDITIONALLY WE REQUIRE DOOR HANGERS TO BE HUNG PRIOR TO WORK BEING STARTED IN A NEIGHBORHOOD SO YOU SHOULD GO TO THE SAME TIME THAT PEOPLE START TO SEE FLAGS PAINT AND WE CRACK DOWN ON THIS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR AGAIN LIKE I SAID WE JUMPED INTO AN ENGINEERING IN JUNE SO WE WERE KIND OF PLAYING IT WAS WE WERE PLAYING CATCH UP THROUGHOUT THE YEAR I FEEL IN A MUCH BETTER PLACE RIGHT NOW THAN WE DID GOING INTO LAST YEAR BUT WE HAVE THE DOOR HANGER INFORMATION RIGHT ON HERE SO YOU CAN ACTUALLY CLICK ON THAT AS A RESIDENT AND IT'LL SHOW YOU THE DOOR HANGER INFORMATION THAT WE SHOULD BE ON THERE WE TALK ABOUT RIGHT AWAY IS AND EASEMENTS YOU CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT WHY ARE THEY IN MY YARD AND THEN TO YOUR POINT WE DO HAVE THE FIBER INSTALLATION INCIDENT REPORT RIGHT HERE SO SOME CAN GO ON FILL OUT THEIR NAME, THEIR EMAIL, THEIR PHONE NUMBER, GIVE US ALL THE INFORMATION, WHAT'S GOING ON AND THIS COMES RIGHT TO US AND THEN WE'LL FOLLOW UP WITH THE RESIDENT IF THERE'S A CONCERN INVOLVED WITH THEM. SO WE DO HAVE THAT AVAILABLE. THAT'S GREAT. THAT'S AWESOME AND WE DO HAVE BUSINESS CARDS AS WELL WITH A QR CODE ON IT THAT ALL OF OUR INSPECTORS CARRY THAT HAS THIS INFORMATION ON IT SO THEY'RE ABLE TO HAND THOSE TO RESIDENTS. SO IF THEY'RE TALKING WITH THE RESIDENT IN THE FIELD WHO HAS A QUESTION THEY CAN GIVE IT RIGHT DIRECTLY TO THEM AND THEY CAN ACCESS THOSE. SO THAT'S AWESOME. OKAY, THE ONLY OTHER THING KIND OF RELATED TO RESTORATION AND IT'S ABOUT ACCOUNTABILITY . I GUESS THE OTHER THING THAT I HEARD ABOUT WAS JUST SOME OF THESE CONTRACTORS GOING INTO BACKYARDS WITHOUT GIVING NOTICE TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS AND HAVING DOGS AND THIS HAPPENED TO ME IT HAPPENED TO PEOPLE THAT I KNOW AND THERE WERE DOGS IN THE BACKYARD AND THERE HAVE BEEN TIMES THAT THEY'VE LEFT FENCES OPEN AND DOGS HAVE GOTTEN OUT AND LIKE AND I KNOW IT'S NOT REALLY RELATED TO RESTORATION SPECIFICALLY BUT AGAIN IT'S KIND OF THE ACCOUNTABILITY PIECE LIKE IF WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO ISSUE PERMITS AND ALLOW THEM TO CONTINUE TO DO WORK IN BLOOMINGTON WANTING TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE YOU KNOW, NOT POTENTIALLY CAUSING OTHER KINDS OF HARM TO PEOPLE . SO NO, AND THAT'S A VERY FAIR POINT. I KNOW THAT WE THERE WERE COMPANIES THAT WERE KICKED OUT OF TOWN SO WE DID ESTABLISH THEY ESTABLISHED WEEKLY MEETINGS WITH THE MANAGEMENT TEAMS FOR TWO OF THE THREE BIG PROVIDERS OF LAST YEAR AND THOSE WERE VERY HELPFUL. WE HAD ALREADY BEEN IN CONTACT WITH TWO OF THEM THIS OVER THE WIER TO TALK ABOUT YOU KNOW GIVE THEM A HEADS UP ABOUT THIS INFORMATION AND JUST KIND OF PLAN FOR THE NEXT YEAR. SO THOSE WERE A GOOD TOUCH POINT JUST TO TALK ABOUT THOSE TYPE OF ISSUES WHEN WE SEE THOSE I KNOW THAT OUR STAFF OUR INSPECTORS STAFF HAS DONE A PHENOMENAL JOB OF FOLLOWING UP AND WE HEAR THOSE. BUT THAT'S ONE THING THAT WE ARE STRESSING AND WE'RE ACTUALLYOLDING KICKOFF WITH ALL THE PROVIDERS AND WE'RE REQUIRING ALL THEIR CREWS TO COME IN TO PUBLIC WORKS TO GO THROUGH WITH THEM. WE HAVE A SLIDE PRESENTATION THAT WAS ACTUALLY PUT TOGETHER AND STARTED BY FIELD STAFF. THEY TOOK THE INITIATIVE TO DO THIS BECAUSE THEY'RE LIKE WE NEED TO GET THIS INFORMATION OUT TO THEM. THEY KIND OF LEAD THE MEETING, BRING THEM IN , SHOW THEM OUR EXPECTATIONS TALKED ABOUT THOSE EXACT THINGS ABOUT YOU NEED TO KNOCK ON THE DOOR JUST BECAUSE THERE'S AN EASEMENT IN THE BACK BACKYARD YOU CAN'T JUST WALK INTO A BACKYARD WITHOUT NOTIFYING THE RESIDENT LEAVING DOORS OPEN EVEN, GATES OPEN THOSE TYPE OF THINGS DESTROYING YOU KNOW, LANDSCAPING IN THE BACKYARD AS I KNOW UNFORTUNATELY, YOU KNOW, IF YOU CAN GO ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET AND NOT IMPACT THAT DO THAT HAVING THOSE CONVERSATIONS SO I KNOW THAT WAS FRUSTRATING FOR US AS STAFF AND THE MEETINGS WITH THE MANAGEMENT WAS GOOD BUT OFTENTIMES THAT MESSAGE DIDN'T GET FILTERED DOWN TO THE CREWS IN THE FIELD AND WE'RE TRYING TO DO A BETTER JOB OF HUCKABEE REACH HARTLEY'S CREWS IN THE FIELD, BRINGING THEM IN AND HAVING THOSE CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM AND THEN HAVING CONSEQUENCES WHEN THAT HAPPENS. SO AWESOME. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME AND THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP COUNCILMEMBER AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR RESPONSE, BRIAN, BECAUSE THAT THAT I WAS GOING TO WRAP THIS UP WITH THAT CONVERSATION OF NOT ONLY NOT ONLY THE RESTORATION REQUIREMENTS AND THE FEES AND SO BUT THE CUSTOMER SERVICE EXPECTATIONS AND THE COMMUNICATIONS EXPECTATIONS AND JUST THE THE GOOD NEIGHBORLY EXPECTATIONS THAT WE'VE OF NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE IN FRONT OF RATHER THAN TRYING TO CHASE AFTER THEM AND CATCH UP TO THEM AND SAY YOU MUST DO THIS. I'M VERY GLAD TO HEAR THAT YOU'RE ALREADY HAVING MEETINGS SETTING THE EXPECTATIONS WHAT SHOULD HAPPEN IN THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON WHEN THEY COME HERE AND WHAT THINGS SHOULD LOOK LIKE WHEN THEY'RE DONE? ABSOLUTELY. AND ALONG THOSE SAME LINES TOO, I SHOULD MENTION ONE OTHER COMMENT THAT WE RECEIVED A LOT IS ABOUT IDENTIFICATION OF VEHICLES BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT VEHICLES. PEOPLE SEE CARS THAT ARE UNMARKED AND PEOPLE ARE GOING AROUND DOING THINGS LIKE WHO ARE THESE PEOPLE? THEY'RE NOT WITH THE CITY. SO AGAIN REQUIRING AND WE DID THIS LAST YEAR WE KICKED AND WE KICKED VEHICLES OFF THAT ALL YOUR VEHICLES I DON'T CARE IF YOU TAPE ARE ASSIGNED THIS I WAS LIKE BUT YOU NEED TO IDENTIFY YOURSELF AS WHO YOU ARE SO THAT A STAFF WE KNOW WHO'S OUT THERE AND AS A RESIDENT YOU KNOW WHO'S OUT THERE AND THEY CAN CALL IN AND SAY YES I SEE PROVIDER X OUT HERE HERE'S THE ISSUE AND THEY KNOW WHO THAT IS RIGHT AWAY. SO AS OPPOSED TO JUST RANDOM PEOPLE WALKING IN SOMEONE'S BACKYARD AND SAYING WE'RE HERE TO SOMETHING THAT IS UNACCEPTABLE, WE'RE NOT GOING TO WE'RE NOT GOING TO ALLOW THAT. THANK YOU AND GOOD TO HEAR WE'RE ON THE SAME SAME WAVELENGTH THERE, COUNCILMEMBER AND THEN COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO. THANK YOU, MAYOR MY MY QUESTION IS AROUND THE RESTORATION AND SPECIFICALLY STANDARDS THAT WE HAVE FOR RESTORATION BECAUSE AN EXPERIENCED ROAD RECONSTRUCTION RESTORATION COMPARED TO CENTERPOINT RESTORATION CAN NOW COMPARE TO THE FIBER RESTORATION AND I BY FAR PREFER SOD BECAUSE IT'S EASY I KNOW EXACTLY WHERE I HAVE THE WATER, WHO'S RESPONSIBLE IT AND IT'S REALLY EFFECTIVE AT BRINGING BACK TO THE SAME LEVEL THAT IT WAS BEFORE WHEREAS MY EXPERIENCES WITH THE FIBER IS IT'S KIND OF JUST THROW SOME GRASSY IT ON AND MAYBE IT'S JUST TRYING TO MAKE IT LOOK LIKE WE'RE DOING SOMETHING AND THEN YOU KNOW TWO WEEKS LATER FULL OFEEDS AND I'M THE ONE HAS COME BACK AND PUTS ME DOWN AND I'M THE ONE THAT HAS TO WATER IT BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT BRINGING WATER TRUCKS AROUND LIKE WE DO FACADE WITH ROAD RECONSTRUCTION AND SO MY QUESTION REALLY IS AROUND WHY DO WE HAVE TWO DIFFERENT STANDARDS THAT WE SET FOR FOR ALL OF THE RESTORATION WORK THAT WE DO AND IS THERE'S A WAY FOR US TO HAVE BETTER RESTORATION FROM THESE COMPANIES THAT ARE COMING IN AND PUTTING IN THIS WORK. YEAH. THANK YOU, MR. MCCALLISTER. THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. WE ARE PLANNING TO REFERENCE OUR STANDARD SPECIFICATION CONSTRUCTION SPECIFICATIONS THIS YEAR. SO THAT IS THE SPECIFICATIONS THAT INCLUDE WITH OUR PAVEMENT MANAGEMENT PROGRAM. SO WHEN THAT CONTRT GOES OUT FOR BID THAT'S THE REQUIREMENT THAT THOSE CONTRACTORS ARE HELD TO AS FAR AS RESTORATION GOES AND YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT WE STARTED TO REFERENCE THOSE IN OUR CONDITIONS OF THE PERMIT IN THE YEAR BECAUSE WE'RE RUNNING INTO THOSE EXACT SAME ISSUES AND OUR INSPECTORS WERE SAYING WELL WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO BE LOOKING FOR? WHAT IS THE STANDARD THAT I'M TO BE HOLDING THEM TO TO THAT EXACT POINT? SO RATHER THAN MAKE IT YOU KNOW BECAUSE AND THEN T CONTRACTOR SAYING WELL WHAT DO YOU NEED TO DO? I MEAN WE HAD MULTIPLE CONTRACTORS LAST YEAR THAT WENT OUT AND BOUGHT WATER TRUCKS. AFTER WE TALKED WE ASKED THEM WELL HOW ARE YOU WATERING THOSE OH WELL YOU NEED TO HAVE THAT EQUIPMENT. THAT'S PART OF WORK IF YOU WANT TO BE CONTINUED TO WORK IN THE CITY AND ACTUALLY HAD TO GO OUT AND BUY WATER TRUCKS AND STARTED TO DO THAT. SO WE ARE PLANNING ON REFERENCING OUR STANDARD SPECIFICALLY OCEANS AS PART OF OUR PERMIT APPLICATION OR PART OF OUR PERMIT ISSUANCE THIS YEAR SO THAT THEY WILL HAVE SOMETHING TO POINT BACK TO AND IN THE STANDARD SPECS THAT DOES TALK ABOUT OR SEED AND WHAT THE REQUIREMENTS ARE. SO IF THAT'S A PREFERENCE OF THE COUNCIL TO REQUIRE SOD ALL THE TIME, YOU KNOW WE CAN DO THAT AS FAR AS OUR PMP GOES WE DO HAVE THE OPTION BUT THERE ARE CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS BASED ON HOW MUCH NEEDS TO BE ESTABLISHED, WHAT TYPE OF SEED IN THOSE TYPE OF THINGS. SO BECAUSE WE DID SEE THAT LAST YEAR WELL YES THEY PUT DOWN THE SIDE OR THE STRAW AND THEY THROW DOWN GRASS SEED AND THENHEY DON'T WATER AND NOTHING HAPPENS AND THEN THEY SAY IT'S RESTORED SO AND THAT RESTORATION MUST START TO BE IN WE HAVE IN THE STANDARD SPECS IT JUST TALKED ABOUT THE ESTABLISHMENT AND HOW MUCH NEEDS TO BE ESTABLISHED BEFORE WE'LL CONSIDER IT THE RESTORATION TAKEN AND SO WE'RE GOING TO ENFORCE THAT BETTER. WE STARTED TO GET SOME EDUCATION ON THAT OUR INSPECTORS DID LATER LAST YEAR WITH OUR PMP STAFF WAS USED TO THAT WAS MORE ATTUNED TO THAT THEY WERE PLANNING DOING THAT AGAIN THIS YEAR. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR, A QUESTION FOR YOU ABOUT THE THE KIND OF THE ONGOING NATURE OF THIS. I KNOW THAT RIGHT NOW WE HAVE THE THE BUILDOUT HAPPENING ARE THE SAY ARE THE PEOPLE THAT ARE CURRENTLY DOING THE BUILDOUT THEY SEEM CONTRACTED OUT. I GUESS WHERE I'M GOING WITH THIS YOU KNOW, IF IT'S IF IT'S AT&T AND T-MOBILE AND I DON'T KNOW WHO THE THIRD WOULD BE AT&T T-MOBILE AND CENTURYLINK LOWCOUNTRY LINK IS DOING FIBER THOSE ARE THE BIG THOSE ARE THE BIG THREE. RIGHT AND SO ARE THEY GOING TO TAKE OVER RESPONSIBILITY THE SAME WAY THAT CENTERPOINT IN EXCEL HAS TODAY FOR THE ONGOING MAINTENANCE AND THE LIKE WHEN THIS PROPOSED I GUESS WHAT I'M GETTING TO IS YOU KEEP TALKING ABOUT THE CENTERPOINT XL LEGACY STUFF BUT EVENTUALLY SOMEBODY FIBER IS TO BE LEGACY AND SO HOW IS THAT GOING TO WORK? WHAT WHAT'S THE EXPECTATION THAT WE HAVE ABOUT HOW MANY OF THOSE KIND OF OVER-THE-TOP PROVIDERS WERE GOING TO BE MANAGING TO DEAL WITH AND HOW THEY'RE GOING TO ALLOCATE THE MAINTENANCE WORK OR OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT THAT MIGHT COME UP OVER TIME THEN? YEAH, THAT'S A FAIR QUESTION. THANK YOU MR. MCCALLISTER THE THREE ARE KIND OF APPROACHING IT IN DIFFERENT WAYS TO FOR SURE ARE HAVING A COMPANY THAT IS LEADING THE CONSTRUCTION EFFORT SO THEY ARE HIRED BY THE PROVIDER TO ROLL OUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE TO SUPPORT THIS PARTICULAR PROVIDER'S SPEED FIBER AND THEY WILL ULTIMATELY OWN THAT INFRASTRUCTURE. SO I KNOW THAT ONE FOR SURE LIKE THE GIGA POWER WHO IS WORKING WITH AT&T THEY HAVE YOU KNOW, AT&T HAS FIRST RIGHT TO UTILIZE THAT INFRASTRUCTURE AND AFTER A CERTAIN NUMBER OF YEARS POTENTIALLY SOMEONE ELSE COULD, YOU KNOW, LEASE THAT SPACE FROM FROM THAT FROM THAT COMPANY. SO THAT'S THE WAY THOSE TWO ARE SET UP I BELIEVE CENTURYLINK IS OWNING AND LUMEN IS OWNING THEIR INFRASTRUCTURE AS WELL. SO THOSE WILL BE TO YOUR POINT THOSE WILL CONTINUE THOSE WILL BE LEGACY PROVIDERS. BUT IN TERMS OF THE RESTORATION GETTING BACK TO THE RESTORATION IF THERE'S ISSUES THAT ARISE DURING THAT WARRANTY PERIOD SO AFTER THE PERMIT GOES INTO THE PREMISES CONSIDERED RESTORED OR THE AREA IS CONSIDERED RESTORED THE PERMIT IT GOES INTO A TWO YEAR WARRANTY PERIOD. SO IF THERE'S ANY ISSUES IN THAT WHETHER THEY'RE SINKING SO AGAIN WE WERE ASKING BORE THIS WINTER WHO WAS THE CONTACT FOR EACH OF THESE FOR THE PATCHING THE ROADWAY BECAUSE YOU KNOW, IF WE SEE SOME SETTLING WE WANT TO KNOW WHO TO TALK TO YOU TO GO BACK AND FIX THAT. THAT'S NOT OUR RESPONSIBILITY AS A CITY AT THIS POINT. IT'S STILL THEIR RESPONSIBILITY SO WE DO HAVE THOSE CONTACTS IN OUR MONITORING THOSE AS WELL SO WE KNOW WHO TO GO TO THE ULTIMATE OWNERS OF THAT INFRASTRUCTURE LIKE I SAID IS TWO OF THE PROVIDERS ARE HAVING A THE CONSTRUCTION COMPANY WILL OWN THAT INFRASTRUCTURE SO THEY COULD POTENTIALLY LISA TWO OTHER PARTIES IN THE FUTURE I BELIEVE CENTURYLINK AND LUMEN IS OWNING THEIR INFRASTRUCTURE AT THIS TIME THEY ARE ALSO OWNING OC THANK YOU THAT HELPS THE SECOND QUESTION THAT I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT RELATED TO RESTORATION THEN IS IS THERE ANY I HAVE NO IDEA THIS IS A GOOD IDEA OR NOT BUT I PROPOSE IT IT WOULD THERE BE A REASON TO CONSIDER THE CITY DOING THE RESTORATION IF THEY'RE FAILING TO DO IT ACCURATELY AND THEN CHARGING THEM FOR LIKE ESSENTIALLY SO THAT WE KNOW THAT OUR STAFF IS DOING IT TO THE STANDARD THAT WE EXPECTED AND THEN WE'RE GETTING PAID BY THE PROVIDER NOT NECESSARILY SUGGESTING THAT WE WE THEY THEY FARM IT ALL OUT TO US NECESSARILY ALTHOUGH Y'ALL CAN DO THAT IF YOU WANT. BUT MY THOUGHT WAS IF IF THERE'S A PROBLEM SPACE YOU'LL KIND OF LIKE THE WAY THAT WE DO IF SOMEBODY IS NOT MANAGING THEIR LAND EFFECTIVELY WE CAN GO IN AND WE CAN CUT THEIR LAWN FOR THEM BUT THEN WE THEM FOR IT RIGHT AND EVERYTHING IS THAT ARE WE CONSIDERING ANY KIND OF CONCEPT LIKE THAT IF YOU HAVE CONSIDERED AND YOU'RE NOT RECOMMENDING IT WHY NOT? I JUST KIND OF CURIOUS IF IT'S BEEN SOMETHING YOU'VE TALKED ABOUT IT STAFF YEAH, THANKS FOR THE QUESTION MAYOR COUNCILMEMBER WE DO REQUIRE ALL THE CONTRACTORS TO HAVE A PERFORMANCE BOND ON FILE WITH US OR TO DO WORK IN THE RIGHT OF WAY. SO IF SOMEONE WAS NOT MEETING THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE OF THE PERMIT EXCUSE ME WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PULL AGAINST THAT PERFORMANCE BOND SO AGAIN IF IT WAS A RESTORATION ISSUE AND WE WENT TO THEM AND SAID THIS IS NOT RESTORED PROPERLY ,WE ARE ASKING YOU THIS IS THE LAST YOU KNOW AND THEY REFUSED TO RESTORED OR UNABLE TO DO FOR WHATEVER REASON. YOU KNOW, IN THEORY WE COULD WE COULD PULL AGAINST THAT PERFORMANCE BOND. SO WE DO HAVE THAT MECHANISM AVAILABLE TO US IF WE WERE TO GO TO DO THE WORK TO GET REIMBURSED FOR THAT. SO OKAY SO SO PULLING AGAINST THAT PERFORMANCE BOND IS THE MONEY MONEY PORTION OF IT WHICH IS GREAT. WHAT WOULD THEN WE BE WOULD WE HAVE ALREADY COMMITTED TO DOING THE WORK SO IF I IF I GET A CALL FROM A RESIDENT AND THE RESIDENT SAID THEY'VE BEEN OUT HERE THREE TIMES AND IT'S STILL NOT RIGHT AND AND INSPECTION GOES AND SAYS YOU KNOW YOU'RE RIGHT, IT'S NOT RIGHT IS AT THAT POINT THEN WE WOULD STEP IN AND DO THAT WORK AND PULL FROM THE PERFORMANCE BOND TO PAY FOR THAT SERVICE IS THAT WHAT I GUESS HOW IT WOULD WORK IN REALITY? YEAH THERE'S A LITTLE MORE THERE'S SOME MORE PROCESSES AND I'LL REFER TO THE CITY ATTORNEY ON THAT. THERE'S MORE PROCESSES IN PLACE AS FAR AS DOCUMENTATION BEFOR WE CAN ACTUALLY PULL AGAINST THAT. TYPICALLY IN MY EXPERIENCE IN RIGHT AWAY AND USING PERFORMANCE BONDS, THE THREAT OF PULLING AGAINST THAT PERFORMANCE BOND IS ENOUGH TO GET ACTION FROM THEM. NOW IF WE DON'T SEE ACTION THEN WE DO HAVE THE RIGHT AND THE ABILITY TO PULL AGAINST THAT PERFORMANCE BOND SO BUT IT'S NOT AS SIMPLE AS THE NEXT DAY WE COULD SEND CREWS I MEAN IF IT WAS SOMETHING YOU KNOW CITY CREWS COULD GO OUT THERE I WOULD ANTICIPATE IF WE WERE TO USE A PERFORMANCE BOND IT WOULD PROBABLY BE WE'D PROBABLY HIRE SOMEONE TO DO THAT AND THEN USE THAT PERFORMANCE BOND TO PAY FOR THAT. SO BUT IF IT WAS A PROBLEM SPOT THERE WAS AN EROSION ISSUE OR SOME OTHER SAFETY CONCERN. OBVIOUSLY IF WE HAD WE COULD SEND OUT CITY STAFF TO TO ADDRESS THAT. I GUESS MY CONCERN BE THAT IF THE OPPORTUNITY AROSE FOR THEM TO JUST WRITE A CHECK AND SAY CITY YOU DEAL WITH THE RESTORATION THAT BASED ON MY EXPERIENCE THAT SOME OF THEM MAY TAKE US UP ON THAT AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE THE CAPACITY OR WANT TO GET INTO THE FULL RESTORATION GAME FOR ALL THESE PEOPLE. RIGHT. I WOULD I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT. I APPRECIATE THAT. YEAH. I'M THINKING LIKE YOU KNOW, THE NEXT TIME SOMEBODY USES DUCT TAPE TO YOU KNOW, FIX A GAS LEAK, WE PROBABLY SHOULD GET ON THAT RATHER QUICKLY AND NOT WAIT FOR THEM TO GO THROUGH THE RIGMAROLE OF PERFORMANCE BONDS, RIGHT? YEAH. UNDERSTOOD. THEY ARE NO LONGER IN THE CITY AND THEY'RE NO LONGER IN THE STATE I BELIEVE. YEAH. YES. UNDERSTOOD UNDERSTOOD. ABSOLUTELY YES. WELL THEN LAST QUESTION I HAD IS IS RELATED TO THIS KIND OF FIVE 50,000 SQUARE FEET. SO A BIG PART OF THE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE HAD WITH FOLKS WERE LIKE THEY CAME THEY PUT THE FLAGS IN THE GROUND AND THAT WAS FINE BECAUSE IT WAS EARLY SPRING AND THERE WASN'T ANY MY STUFF AND NOW MY MY NATIVE PLANTS AND EVERYTHING HAVE GROWN UP AROUND THOSE FLAGS AND EVERYTHING AND THEY'VE NOT COME HERE. SO WHAT WHAT IS OUR EXPECTATION OF THAT 50,000 FEET AS IT RELATES TO THE TIME IT SHOULD TAKE THEM TO ACTUALLY GET THE WORK DONE IN THAT SERVICE AREA? YEAH, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. THANK YOU MAYOR AND COUNCILOR I SHOULD HAVE MENTIONED THIS BEFORE SO ON AVERAGE A A TYPICAL CREW IF THINGS ARE MOVING SMOOTHLY A SINGLE CREW WITH A SINGLE CAN DRILL ABOUT 1500 TO 2000 LINEAR FEET OF PIPE IN A DAY. THAT'S WHAT WE'VE SEEN. SO IF YOU THINK ABOUT THAT AT 50,000, YOU KNOW, AND THE WORKING DAYS IN A MONTH, YOU KNOW, THAT GETS THEM ROUGHLY YOU KNOW ABOUT, A MONTH OR SO PER PERMIT IF IT WAS A 50,000 LINEAR FOOT PERMIT. SO OUR THOUGHT IS STAFF BEHIND THAT IS THAT'S ENOUGH MOTIVATION FOR THEM BECAUSE THEY CAN'T MOVE FORWARD PAST THAT. YOU KNOW THEY LIKE TO HAVE WORK FOR YOU KNOW, CONTINUOUS WORK SO BY IMPLEMENTING A TOTAL FOOTAGE THAT WOULD BE ACTIVE AT ONE TIME OUR HOPE IS THAT THAT WILL BE ENOUGH OF A MOTIVATION TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT RESTORATION IS COMPLETED UNDERSTAND THAT THEY CAN'T MOVE FORWARD WITH WORK. SO IF THEY'RE GETTING CLOSE TO THE END OF THAT MONTH AND THERE'S ONLY 2000 FEET LEFT IN THAT SERVICE AREA AND THEY HAVEN'T RESTORED THAT THEY CAN'T GET A NEW PERMIT. SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE OUR THAT'S THAT WAS OUR ATTEMPT TO TRY TO GET BETTER COMPLIANCE ON THE RESTORATION ISSUES THAT YOU'RE DISCUSSING RATHER THAN POINT AND THE PERFORMANCE OR DOING SOME OTHER THINGS. SO YOU'RE HOPING THAT THE MOTIVATION FOOTAGE AND INSTALLATION OF CONTINUOUS WORK TO ROLL THIS OUT WOULD BE ENOUGH OF A CARROT FOR THEM TO CONTINUE TO DO RESTORATION. OKAY. SO THE EXPECTATION IS NOT ONLY IS THE WORK THAT THE WORK IS COMPLETE BUT THAT THE THAT THE RESTORATION HAS ALSO BEEN COMPLETE BEFORE THEY MOVE ON ALL OF THAT WITHIN LET'S SAY 30 TO 45 DAYS IN A GIVEN SERVICE AREA. OKAY, THAT SOUNDS REALLY GOOD. I WOULD JUST COMMENT THAT I WOULD WANT YOU ALL TO BE TRACKING THAT TO SEE IF THIS ACTUALLY DOES MOVE THAT NEEDLE BECAUSE I THINK IT SHOULD BE PRETTY OBVIOUS TO EVERYONE IF THAT ACTUALLY IS MOVING THINGS IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. YEAH, I AGREE AND I THINK AND I'VE GOT MIXED RESPONSES FROM THE THE THE PROVIDERS THAT I'VE TALKED TO SO FAR YOU KNOW I THINK ONES THAT MAYBE AREN'T SET UP YOU KNOW RIGHT NOW TO HAVE THAT LEVEL OF RESTORATION MAYBE HAVE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THIS. I THINK THE ONES THAT DO HAVE THE EQUIPMENT AND KIND OF HAVE THE THE PLAN IN PLACE TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THIS. I HAVEN'T SEEN A LOT OF PUSHBACK FROM THEM TO DATE AND YOU KNOW, I'M SURE THAT WILL CHANGE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE CONSTRUCTION SEASON IF THEY GET CLOSE TO THE END OF A OF A SERVICE AREA AND THEY DON'T HAVE THE RESTORATION DONE OR TELL THEM THEY CAN'T MOVE FORWARD AND WE'LL HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS AT THAT TIME. BUT UP TO THIS POINT WE HAVEN'T HAD THIS MECHANISM BEFORE SO JUST A MATTER OF KIND OF WHACK A MOLE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE THEY ARE AND THEN LIKE I SAID EARLIER KIND OF RECOURSE WAS TO SHUT THEM DOWN FOR 72 HOURS WHICH JUST CREATED MORE CREATED MORE ISSUES FOR BOTH SIDES I DON'T THINK REALLY ACCOMPLISHED THE GOAL OR THE OUTCOME THAT WE WERE HOPING FOR WAS TO GET THAT RESTORATION DONE BECAUSE THAT'S ULTIMATELY WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET DONE. COUNCILMEMBER NELSON THINKS WE'RE JUST A COUPLE QUICK QUESTIONS ON THE FIRST PART ABOUT FEES YOU HAD GONE OVER WHAT OTHER CITIES ARE DOING. HAVE YOU TALKED WITH WHAT OTHER CITIES ARE PROPOSING OR DOING WITH REGARDS TO RESTORATION AND SOME OF THE SERVICE ISSUES DURING CONSTRUCTION? THOSE TYPES OF THINGS? YEAH, I THINK YOU MR. MAYOR CUSTOMER I WAS ACTUALLY A MEMBER OF A PANEL LAST WEEK AT THE CITY ENGINEER'S ASSOCIATION CONFERENCE IN MINNESOTA AND I SAT IN ON A RIGHT AWAY MANAGEMENT SESSION AND THE MAJORITY OF THE QUESTIONS WERE RELATED TO FIBER INSTALLATION AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT BLOOMINGTON IS KIND OF AT THE TIP OF THE SPEAR, SO TO SPEAK, FAR AS THE INSTALLATION GOES, I THINK WE WERE ONE OF THE FIRST COMMUNITIES IN THE METRO AREA AT LEAST THAT WERE IDENTIFIED FOR A NUMBER OF REASONS. WE DIDN'T HAVE THE SERVICE BEFORE. THE DENSITY YOU KNOW THAT SAW THIS AS A IS A FERTILE AREA FOR IT FOR THEIR SERVICE. SO WE SAW THE BRUNT OF IT LAST YEAR WIT THREE PROVIDERS IN TOWN WHICH IS PRETTY UNCOMMON. MOST OF THE CITIES WE TALKED TO WERE BEING APPROACHED MAYBE ONE OR TWO BUT THEY HAVEN'T REALLY EXPERIENCED IT YET SO THEY WERE ACTUALLY LOOKING TO US. I'VE RECEIVED A LOT OF FEEDBACK FROM PEOPLE THAT ATTENDED THAT SESSION ASKING KIND OF WHAT WE'VE DONE, ASKING HOW WE HANDLED IT AND SOME OF THE LESSONS THAT WE'VE LEARNED SO WE I TO YOUR QUESTION I HAVEN'T HEARD A LOT FROM OTHER CITIES. I HAVE HEARD FROM ONE CITY THAT HAD A KIND OF A SIMILAR SET UP WHERE THEY ONLY ALLOWED ONE PERMIT TO BE OPEN AT A TIME BEFORE IT WAS RESTORED AND I HAD THAT CONFIRMED TO ONE OF THE CONTRACTORS. SO THAT KIND OF MIRRORS KIND OF WHAT WE'RE THINKING HERE WITH THAT 50,000 OR HAVING THAT MAXIMUM FOOTAGE TO KIND OF MIRROR THAT AND THAT WAS OUR THOUGHT PROCESS BEHIND THAT BUT THAT'S REALLY THE BEST THAT WAS KIND OF WHAT THE THE CITY THAT WAS HELD UP AS AN EXAMPLE AT LEAST LAST SUMMER WHEN WE WERE HAVING ALL THESE ISSUES WITH WITH RESTORATION AS THAT WAS THE ONE THAT WAS KIND OF DOING IT AND GETTING SOME COMPLIANCE FROM THAT AND THAT WAS A TACTIC THAT SEEMED TO BE WORKING WELL. SO OKAY. AND THEN WITH REGARDS TO THIS SPECIFIC PROPOSAL, THE ONE CONCERN THAT I DO HAVE AND THIS IS PROBABLY JUST RELATED THAT I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT SEQUENCE OF THE CONSTRUCTION EVENTS BUT THE RESTORATION PROBABLY YOU GOT TO PUT DOWN THE SEEDS, YOU GOT TO WATER IT . THAT'S GOING TO TAKE A COUPLE OF WEEKS. SO THE START THE WORK THAT THEY DO IN THE FIRST COUPLE OF WEEKS SHOULD BE RESTORED BY THE END THAT MONTH. BUT I'M MORE CONCERNED ABOUT THE THIRD AND THE FOURTH WEEK LIKE THE FOURTH WEEK SPECIFICALLY LIKE YOU'D HAVE TO WAIT TWO MORE WEEKS WHILE THAT BACK IN AND IS RESTORED BEFORE YOU CAN WORK IN ANOTHER PERMITTED AREA BEFORE IT. YOU KNOW THEY'VE ALREADY APPLIED FOR IT. THEY'RE READY TO GO BUT THEY'RE SITTING WAITING TWO WEEKS UNTIL THEY CAN START THE NEXT AREA AND I UNDERSTAND THAT CORRECTLY. AND IS THERE ANYTHING I MEAN IF THEY IF THEY'RE CONTINUING AND THEY'RE DOING A GOOD JOB WITH THE RESTORATION, IT'S JUST WE'RE WAITING TO VERIFY THE GRASS IS GROWING AND THEY'RE DOING A GOOD JOB OF GETTING BACK THERE. I DON'T WANT TO HOLD THEM BACK FROM DOING WORK. SO THAT'S MY ONLY CONCERN ABOUT IT AS IT'S LAID OUT THINK AND THAT'S A THANK YOU MR. MAYOR. CHALAMET'S A FAIR QUESTION AND I COULD FORESEE MAYBE SOME LANGUAGE THAT ALLUDES TO RESTORATION SUBSTANTIALLY COMPLETED OR SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT TOO BECAUSE I THINK YOU DO MAKE A FAIR POINT BECAUSE YOU'RE RIGHT IF THEY'RE ON THE LAST DAY OF A YOU KNOW, THE LAST 20 FEET AND THEY JUST RESTORED IT THEN YEAH, THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME TIME UNTIL THAT SITE ESTABLISH ITSELF AND THEY MAY BE READY TO MOVE FORWARD AND IF THEY'RE SHOWING A GOOD FAITH EFFORT OF KEPT UP THEN YOU KNOW, I THINK I WANT TO I WOULD I WOULD SUGGEST HAVING SOME SOME DISCRETION FOR THE CITY ENGINEER OR SOMEONE ELSE TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THAT CALL TO UNDERSTAND THAT AND KEEP THAT MOVING FORWARD BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO WE'RE NOT THE INTENTION OF THESE CHANGES IS NOT TO PROHIBIT THEM FROM MOVING FORWARD. WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ENSURING THAT THE RESIDENTS ARE BEING TREATED YOU KNOW, THAT THEIR THEIR ISSUES ARE BEING ADDRESSED AND THAT WE'RE PROTECTING THE INFRASTRUCTURE IT'S CURRENTLY IN PLACE FOR EVERYONE. THE POINT COUNCILMEMBER THANK YOU FOR THAT. LET'S KEEP MOVING. ALL RIGHT. THE THIRD ONE THIS ONE IS PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD TALKING ABOUT A WINTER MORATORIUM DATE. SO CURRENTLY WE DON'T HAVE A SPECIFIC WINTER MORATORIUM FOR HALTING CONSTRUCTION FOR THE WINTER OUR WINTER WINTER MONTHS RIGHT NOW THIS PAST YEAR, YOU KNOW, WE WERE I WAS IN CONSTANT CONTACT WITH THE CONTRACTORS AS IT GOT CLOSER IN OCTOBER AND NOVEMBER AND IT WAS REALLY BASED ON THE AVAILABILITY OF MATERIALS FOR RESTORATION AND ALSO THE WEATHER. SO THE BIG DRIVER IS WHEN THE BITUMINOUS PLANTS CLOSED DOWN WE CAN NO LONGER PUT PERMANENT PATCHES AND HANDLES POTHOLES IN THE STREETS SO WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE OPEN HOLES OR TEMPORARY PATCHES IN OUR STREETS THROUGHOUT THE WINTER BECAUSE WE ALL KNOW WHAT WATER AND ALL THAT ICE DOES TO THE PAVEMENT IS NOT GOOD. SO WE WERE KIND OF MONITORING THE AVAILABILITY OF MATERIALS HOW MANY POTHOLES OR HOW MANY RESTORATION AREAS THEY HAD AND KIND OF WORKING WITH THEM ON THAT. AND THEN IN THE WINTER DO CONSIDER WORK ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS AND SOFT SURFACE AREAS ONLY. SO YOU MAY SEE A HANDFUL OF DRILLS AROUND TOWN. WE'RE ALLOWING THAT WORK TO CONTINUE IN AREAS WHERE THERE IS NO CROSSINGS OF HARD SURFACE THAT REQUIRE A POTHOLE AND SO IF THEY NEED TO CROSS A ROADWAY OR ANY PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY HARD SURFACE WHERE THEY WOULD NEED TO FOR CONSTRUCTION PURPOSES DRILL DOWN TO BE ABLE TO TO SPOT OR TO DAYLIGHT ANY TYPE OF UTILITY THEY'RE CROSSING. WE ARE NOT ALLOWING THAT IN THE WINTER BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE AVAILABILITY OF THE MATERIALS TO TO TO PERMANENTLY PATCH THOSE ARE NOT AVAILABLE AT THIS TIME OF YEAR SO THAT'S WHAT THAT NO POTHOLE THING IS IS ALLOWED AND LAST YEAR LIKE LOOKING FORWARD TO THE NEXT SLIDE HERE SO HENNEPIN COUNTY DOES HAVE LANGUAGE RELATED TO WINTER MORATORIUM WHICH YOU SEE HERE NOVEMBER 15TH THROUGH APRIL 15TH LAST YEAR ACTUALLY 15TH JUST HAPPENED TO BE THE DAY THAT WE TOLD THEM THAT THAT'S WE'RE GOING TO END THE SEASON. IT WAS A FRIDAY AND THEN THE FOLLOWING WEEK THE WEATHER LOOKED BAD. WE GOT WORD BIT PLANTS ARE CLOSING DOWN SO I JUST KIND OF WORKED OUT THAT WAY BUT THERE'S A LITTLE AMBIGUITY RIGHT NOW TOWARDS THE END OF THE YEAR TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHERE WE WERE AT. THE CONTRACTORS DIDN'T KNOW SO WE WERE KIND OF HESITANT TO LET THEM CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD. THEY WANTED TO PUSH FORWARD AS FAR AS THEY COULD SO STAFF IS PROPOSING JUST TO GIVE CLARITY TO BOTH STAFF AS WELL AS ANY CONTRACTOR HAS TO ADOPT LANGUAGE SIMILAR TO HENNEPIN COUNTY TO HAVE THAT NOVEMBER 15 THROUGH APRIL 15TH MORATORIUM UNLESS AUTHORIZED BY THE CITY ENGINEER OR THEIR REPRESENTATIVE. SO ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THAT I THINK THAT MAKES GOOD SENSE. COUNCILMEMBER DELAHUNT JUST A QUICK CLARIFICATION. YOU MENTIONED RIGHT OF WAY BUT I HAD FOLKS IN MY BACKYARD DOING AERIAL WORK. AERIAL DOESN'T DOESN'T GET AFFECTED HERE. IT DOES GET AFFECTED. CORRECT. WE WOULD NOT THIS WOULD NOT APPLY TO AERIAL BECAUSE THERE'S NOT UNDERGROUND THERE'S NOT IMPACTS TO THE HARD SURFACE. SO WE ALLOW AERIAL WORK TO CONTINUE IN THE WINTER MONTHS AS LONG AS THEY'RE NOT IMPACTING THE HARD SURFACE OR . IF IT'S ABOVE ONE ABOVE GROUND IT'S ALWAYS BE PERMITTED AND WE STILL NEED TO GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS BUT WE DO ALLOW THAT TO CONTINUE. I THINK LET'S REMEMBER WHAT THIS QUESTION KIND OF RELATES BACK TO THE RESTORATION PIECE OF IT BECAUSE MYSELF AND MY NEIGHBORS EXPERIENCED THIS LATE LAST YEAR WHERE THEY CAME THROUGH AND THEN FROST RIGHT. AND WHEN DO THEY COME BACK IN THE SPRING. IF THEY COME BACK IN THE SPRING AND IN MINNESOTA, RIGHT . LIKE IF YOU'RE GOING TO SEED AND WANT IT TO HOLD AND, MAKE IT THROUGH WINTER , YOU GOT TO BE 30 TO 45 DAYS BEFORE THE FIRST FROST WHICH WOULD BE OCTOBER OR SOMETHING. SO I'M JUST WONDERING WHAT THE WINTER MORATORIUM DOES TO THE RESTORATION PIECE IF THEY'RE OUT NOVEMBER 15TH, WHAT DO THEY HAVE TO DO TO TO MAKE SURE THAT THE RESTORATION IS DONE IN THE SPRING? YEAH, THAT'S A GREAT QUOTE. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. COUNCILMEMBER SO BACKING UP TO THE HARD SURFACE WE WERE REALLY FOCUSED ON THAT BECAUSE WE WERE CONCERNED ABOUT THE AVAILABILITY OF MATERIALS AND IF THEY GET TOO FAR BEHIND ON THOSE AND THE BIT PLANTS CLOSED OR WE GET A COLD SNAP, THEY'RE UNABLE TO DO THAT THEN WE HAVE ISSUES SO WE ARE MONITORING THAT CLOSELY WITH THE RESTORATION LIST. SO TRYING TO LOOK AT WHO HAD HOW MANY OPEN HARD SURFACE WERE OUT THERE AND KIND OF MONITORING THAT AND USING THAT TO DETERMINE IF WE WOULD ALLOW THEM TO CONTINUE FORWARD WORK. I CAN TELL YOU THAT FOR ALL THREE BIG PROVIDERS WE ARE REQUIRING THAT ALL RESTORATION FROM LAST YEAR THAT CARRIED OVER AND WE HAVE A BIG LIST FROM ONE OF THEM AND THEY'RE WELL AWARE AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT THAT NO FORWARD WORK IN 2025 WILL BE PERMITTED UNTIL THOSE RESTORATION ITEMS ARE ADDRESSED. SO TO YOUR POINT FOR THOSE THE SEEDING AND SOFT SURFACE AS WE CALL IT IF THERE ARE ISSUES FROM THOSE LAST YEAR THAT THEY HAVE NOT ADDRESSED, THOSE NEED TO BE ADDRESSED. WE NEED TO SEE THAT WE NEED TO SEE GOOD FAITH EFFORT THAT THE SEED IS ESTABLISHING ITSELF BEFORE WE ALLOW THEM TO CONTINUE WORK THIS YEAR AND THAT WOULD BE THAT WOULD BE OUR EXPECTATION MOVING FORWARD AS WELL REGARDLESS OF WHETHER THIS MORATORIUMS IN PLACE OR NOT THAT ANY OPEN RESTORATION ITEMS FROM A PREVIOUS YEAR NO FORWARD WORK WOULD BE ABLE TO CONTINUE THE FOLLOWING YEAR UNTIL THOSE RESTORATION ITEMS WERE ADDRESSED. SO WE'RE STARTING FROM A CLEAN SLATE TO ZERO SO TO SPEAK AND THEN THEY CAN WORK FORWARD FROM THERE. SO LAST TIME ALL RIGHT. THE LAST THIS IS KIND OF A CLEAN UP ITEM SO WE CURRENTLY HAVE THE CITY CODE SOMETHING CALLED REGISTRATION REQUIREMENTS. SO IT REQUIRES PERSONS PERFORMING WORK WITHIN THE CITY TO REGISTER WITH THE CITY. WE HAVE A NOMINAL REGISTRATION FEE ASSOCIATED WITH THAT. THIS WAS PUT IN PLACE PRIOR TO THE DEPARTMENT OF LABOR AND INDUSTRY HAVING THIS REQUIREMENT AS WELL AND TRACKING THIS SO WE HAVE NOT COLLECTED THIS FEE IN A NUMBER OF YEARS. STAFF LOOKS AT THE DEPARTMENT OF LABOR AND INDUSTRIES WE HAVE ACCESS TO THAT SO THAT'S WHAT WE REFERENCE TO CONFIRM COMPLIANCE WITH THAT AND LIKE I SAID WE HAVEN'T COLLECTED THESE REGISTRATION FEES FOR YEARS BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T REQUIRED THEM TO ACTUALLY FILL THIS OUT. SO STAFF RECOMMENDING TO REMOVE THIS SECTION FROM THE CITY CODE THERE'S LANGUAGE IN THIS SECTION AS WELL REGARDING BONDING AND CERTIFICATE OF INSURANCE REQUIREMENTS THAT LANGUAGE IS ALSO INCLUDED WITHIN THE PERMITTING LANGUAGE WITHIN THE CODES THAT WOULD REMAIN SO THEY WOULD STILL BE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE THOSE BONDS THAT THAT RIGHT OF WAY PERFORMANCE BOND AS WELL AS THAT CERTIFICATE OF INSURANCE THAT WE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE. IT WOULD JUST REMOVE THIS REGISTRATION REQUIREMENT. LIKE I SAID THAT HASN'T BEEN USED IN A NUMBER OF YEARS AND IS ALREADY BEING COLLECTED BY ANOTHER AGENCY IN THE STATE. SO IT REALLY BRIEFLY DO SHOULD SHOULD WE I GUESS THE COUNCIL SHOULD WE REFERENCE IN THIS SECTION THEN THAT THERE'S EXPECTATION THAT THEY ARE REGISTERED AT THE STATE APPROPRIATELY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. AS YOU KNOW WE OFTENTIMES WHEN WE ARE ARE USING STATE BASED THING WE WILL OFTEN IN OUR CODE REFER TO THAT STATE THING SO THAT IF IT CHANGES WE KEEP UP WITH IT BY VIRTUE OF HAVING REFERRED TO IT. DOES IT MAKE SENSE TO DO THAT IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE? THOUGHTS YEAH I THINK I DON'T KNOW. I MEAN IT'S MORE OF A POLICY QUESTION FOR US ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT WE CARE TO ADD THAT TO THE CODE AND I DON'T KNOW. MS. MANDER SCHEIDT IF YOU THINK THAT THAT MATTERS ONE WAY OR THE OTHER BUT IT JUST SEEMS LIKE A SPOT WHERE WE COULD REFER TO THE STATE LEGISLATION ON THIS AND LIKE LEAVE IT THERE AND THEN YOU DON'T EVER HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT IT IF IT CHANGES. WE DON'T HAVE TO DO ANYTHING FOR YOUR MEMBERS. WE CAN CERTAINLY LOOK INTO THAT. WE HAVE RECEIVED SIMILAR FEEDBACK IN THE OTHER DIRECTION THAT THEY LIKE TO HAVE IT ALL HERE AND THEN IT OFFERS US OPPORTUNITY TO PERIODICALLY REVIEW IT AND YOU KNOW CHECK SO CUTS BOTH WAYS BUT WE CERTAINLY WILL ADD IT TO THE LIST OF THINGS WE'RE LOOKING AT BEFORE. ALL RIGHT, THANKS AND THE ADDITIONAL COUNSEL. WELL, THANK YOU. GOOD QUESTIONS, COUNSEL. ONE FINAL QUESTION JUST A MORE OVERARCHING QUESTION. SO WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THE RIGHT AWAY AS IT APPLIES IN PEOPLE'S FRONT YARDS BUT THE RIGHT OF WAY ALSO INCLUDES IN THE STREET ITSELF. CORRECT. AND ARE THERE HAVE YOU CONSIDERED ALL OF THIS IN TERMS OF THAT WHERE WORK WITHIN THE STREET ITSELF BY THESE NOT PUBLIC UTILITIES HOW IT ALL APPLIES AND HOW THIS KIND OF ALL WORKS WITH WORK BUT BETWEEN THE CURBS AS OPPOSED TO OUTSIDE THE CURBS. YEAH AND IT WOULD APPLY THE SAME OBVIOUSLY IN MOST PROVIDERS EVERYONE'S LOOKING TO TRY TO STAY OUT OF THE STREET BECAUSE THE COST OF INSTALLATION ARE MUCH LESS WHEN YOU'RE WORKING ON THERE AND NOT HAVING TO TEAR INTO THE STREET AND RISK THAT OUT THERE AS YOU'RE PROBABLY ALL WELL AWARE THE RIGHT AWAY IS GETTING VERY CROWDED. THERE'S A LOT OF STUFF IN THERE RIGHT NOW SO IT'S IMPERATIVE. SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT ACTUALLY I WILL TALK ABOUT THESE UPDATES AND I'LL GET BACK TO YOUR QUESTION IF THAT'S OKAY WITH YOU. THIS ONE OF THESE GOES RIGHT INTO THAT. SO MOVING FORWARD IN 2025 AND BEYOND, I JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT DOING. ONE IS DRIVEWAY PERMITTING FOR BITUMINOUS IN 2026 SO CURRENTLY WE ISSUED RAIL DRIVEWAY PERMITS WORK IN THE RIGHT OF WAY WE TREAT CONCRETE AND BITUMINOUS DIFFERENT AND WE WANT TO BE UNIFORM IN HOW WE APPLY OUR PERMITS AND HOW WE APPLY OUR VIEW. SO WE ARE PROPOSING TO BRING THAT BACK BEFORE YOU IN 20 PRIOR TO 2026 CONSTRUCTION SEASON JUST TO HAVE SOME CLARITY THAT FOR BOTH STAFF AS WELL AS THE THE PERSONS PULLING THOSE PERMITS. SECONDLY THERE IS CURRENTLY A SAFETY QUALIFIED UNDERGROUND TELECOMMUNICATIONS INSTALLER PROGRAM THAT HAS BEEN APPROVED BY BY THE STATE LEGISLATURE. IT'S EFFECTIVE JULY 1ST OF 2025 AS OF RIGHT NOW AND FOR THE SOUTHERN COUNTY METRO AREA. SO THIS REQUIRES ANYONE DOING UNDERGROUND INSTALLATION WORK TO BE CERTIFIED AND HAVE A CARD THAT REQUIRES THEY HAVE TO GO TO 40 HOURS OF TRAINING AND ANYONE THAT'S OPERATING A DRILL THE DRILL OPERATOR ITSELF THAT'S DOING THAT UNDERGROUND BORING AND THE LOCATOR AT THE FRONT THAT'S KIND OF SHOWING OR SHOW OR LEADING THE DRILL AND TELLING IT WHERE TO GO BOTH MUST BE QUALIFIED OR CERTIFIED TO DO WORK. WE ARE IN SUPPORT OF THIS AS STAFF WE BEEN CONTACTED BY MEMBERS THAT ARE SUPPORTING THIS LEGISLATION AND TO TESTIFY OR PROVIDE LETTERS OF SUPPORT IN SUPPORT OF THIS . THIS IS BASED ON ISSUES THAT HAVE ARISEN IN OTHER COMMUNITIES OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS A LOT OF IT RELATED TO FIBER BUT JUST UNDERGROUND WORK IN GENERAL RIGHT NOW THERE ARE AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, SOME OTHER GROUPS THAT ARE OPPOSED TO THIS AND ARE WORKING TO SEE IF THEY CAN HAVE THIS LEGISLATION CHANGED AND OR REMOVED ALTOGETHER. SO AS OF RIGHT NOW IT'S STILL EFFECTIVE AND IF IT DOES GO INTO EFFECT JULY 1ST AS CURRENTLY CONSTITUTED, WE ARE GOING TO BE APPLYING THIS AND WILL REQUIRE THAT AND HAVE THOSE INSTALLERS TO HAVE TO HAVE THOSE CARDS. IF THEY DON'T THEY WON'T BE ABLE TO DO WORK IN BLOOMINGTON SO LASTLY TWO THINGS CONTRACTOR MEETINGS I'VE DISCUSSED THIS A LITTLE BIT EARLIER. WE'RE CONTINUING TO HAVE THOSE WE'RE HAVING KICK OFF MEETINGS WITH ALL THE CONTRACTORS SOMETIME IN MARCH HOPEFULLY TO GO THROUGH OUR EXPECTATIONS, TALK ABOUT THE UPCOMING CITY PROJECTS TO COORDINATE THAT WORK, TALK ABOUT HOLIDAYS, WORKING HOURS, ALL THOSE THINGS SO THAT WE HAVE THAT ONE TOUCHPOINT SO WE'RE ALL WORKING OFF THE SAME PAGE MOVING FORWARD. THE LAST THING IS THE GAS PORTAL SO TALKING ABOUT THE INFORMATION SO AGAIN GOING BACK TO YOUR QUESTION MR. MAYOR, REGARDING KIND OF WHAT THE IMPACTS ARE AND ARE CROWDED RIGHT OF WAY. SO ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT WE RAN INTO THIS PAST YEAR IS THE QUALITY OF THE PLANS BEING SUBMITTED FOR REVIEW. SO IN PREVIOUS YEARS I THINK THE EXPECTATION FROM UTILITY PROVIDERS WHEN THINGS WERE LESS CROWDED IS THEY COULD KIND OF SUBMIT A PLAN AND HAVE A LINE ON A SHEET AND SAY WE'RE GOING TO BE IN THIS AREA AND THAT WAS GOOD ENOUGH AND THEN THEY WENT OUT THERE IN THE FIELD AND THEY KIND OF FIGURED IT OUT AND THEY STAMPED IT. IT WAS GOOD TO GO THAT'S NOT ACCEPTABLE TO US ANYMORE. THERE'S JUST TOO MUCH STUFF IN THE RIGHT OF WAY. THERE'S TOO MUCH STUFF TO STAY CLEAR OF . IT'S VERY CROWDED. WE NEED TO HAVE MAKE SURE THAT WE ENSURE THE INTEGRITY OF THE UTILITIES ARE ALREADY IN PLACE ALSO HAVE THE ABILITY TO HAVE ROOM TO MAINTAIN AND REPAIR OUR FACILITIES OTHER SO IT'S IMPERATIVE THAT THE PLANS REFLECT WHAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO BE DOING. THE DAYS OF KIND OF FIELD DESIGNING IT NO LONGER WORK FOR US SO WE ARE WORKING WITH OUR GAS STAFF TO HAVE A PORTAL HOPEFULLY WE'LL BE MEETING LATER THIS WEEK TO HAVE A ONE STOP SHOP WHERE APPLICANTS COULD TO GRAB EXISTING INFORMATION. SO RIGHT AWAY INFORMATION EXISTING UTILITY INFORMATION WILL BE COMING FROM ONE SOURCE BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE'RE SEEING DIFFERENT SOURCES, DIFFERENT PROVIDERS AND WE'RE NOT REALLY SURE WHERE THAT DATA IS COMING FROM. IT'S CAUSING A LOT BACK AND FORTH AND JUST INEFFICIENCIES IN THE REVIEW, IN THE PLANS AND SO THAT'S NOT OUR THING. SO TO YOUR POINT ABOUT WORKING IN THE STREET, KNOWING WHERE ALL THE STUFF IS DOING WHERE ALL THE UTILITIES ARE, WHERE ALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS AND HOW THE PROPOSED INFRASTRUCTURE MELDS WITH THAT IS VITALLY IMPORTANT AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE REALLY STRESSING THIS YEAR. WE GOT SOME PUSHBACK FROM THE PROVIDERS BECAUSE I THINK THEY WERE USED TO THE OLD WAY BUT I THINK THEY'RE STARTING TO COME AROUND AND UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO FLEX ON THAT. SO THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO THANK YOU. MS.. QUICK QUESTION ABOUT THE INSTALLER PROGRAM. DO YOU GENERALLY SPEAKING I UNDERSTAND WHY YOU'D BE SUPPORTIVE OF IT AND HAVE YOU WILL ACTUALLY THE PROGRAM ITSELF AND LIKE FEEL LIKE IT'S A GOOD PROGRAM? I SAY THIS BECAUSE AS SOMEBODY WHO MAKES POLICY PEOPLE CAN MAKE POLICIES BUT NOT NECESSARILY LIKE END UP WITH GOOD RESULTS. RIGHT AND I WANT TO BE SURE THAT LIKE GETTING CERTIFICATE ISN'T ABOUT CHECKING A BOX. GETTING THAT CERTIFICATE IS ABOUT LEARNING HOW TO DO SOMETHING WELL SO HAVE HAVE OUR INSPECTORS THE FOLKS ON OUR ON OUR STAFF WHO KNOW HOW TO HOW IT SHOULD BE DONE HAVE THEY REVIEWED THE PROGRAM MATERIALS AND FEEL CONFIDENT THAT IT'S A GOOD PROGRAM THAT WILL ACTUALLY YIELD THE RESULTS WE'RE LOOKING FOR? GREAT QUESTION. THANK YOU MR. MAYOR COUNCILMEMBER YES. OUR STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE MATERIALS AND THEIR FEEDBACK HAS BEEN THAT IT WOULD BE THEY'RE PRODUCTIVE AND THEY ADDRESS THE ISSUES THAT WE'RE SEEING THE FIELD THE ONE THE FEEDBACK ONE OF THE FEEDBACK THAT I'VE RECEIVED FROM THE CONTRACTORS IN DEFENSE OF THEM OR FAIRNESS TO THEM IS THAT THE ABILITY OF THE TRAINING IS AN WIDELY AVAILABLE RIGHT NOW. SO THERE'S NOT A LOT OF PLACES WHERE YOU CAN GET THIS REQUIRED TRAINING. SO I THINK THERE'S A LITTLE DISCONNECT OR THERE'S SOME CONFUSION BY THEM THAT IF THIS DOES GO INTO EFFECT, HOW DO THEY GET THEIR STAFF TO THESE TRAININGS IN TIME TO BE CERTIFIED TO CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD? SO I THINK THAT SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT I'VE HEARD FROM THE CONTRACTORS I'M NOT SURE I BELIEVE THAT MORE TRAININGS ARE BEING AVAILABLE AND THERE'S MORE PLACE THAT WE CAN GET THIS TRAINING. BUT RIGHT NOW THAT'S SOME OF THE DISCONNECT. SOME OF THE CONFUSION FROM THE CONTRACTORS IS IF IT DOES GO INTO EFFECT, WHERE DO WE HAVE TO GO TO GET THIS TRAINING AND ARE THERE ENOUGH TRAININGS AVAILABLE SO WE CAN GET ALL OUR STAFF UP TO SPEED AND THAT MAKES SENSE FOR SURE. DO YOU HAVE YOU HEARD IT ALL FROM THE THE CWA THE THE UNION COMMUNICATION WORKERS OF AMERICA UNION ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THEY'RE ENDORSING THIS OR PROVIDING ANY CLASSES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT THAT YOU KNOW, THOSE CONTRACTORS TAKE ADVANTAGE OF . YEAH. WE HAVE BEEN APPROACHED BY LEONA WHO IS VERY SUPPORTIVE THIS AND THEY'RE ONE OF THE ONES THAT THAT PROMOTED THE ORIGINAL LEGISLATION AND ARE PROVIDING CLASSES. SO THEY'RE THE ONES THAT HAVE REACHED OUT TO THE CITY TO THIS POINT TO TALK ABOUT THAT SO. OKAY THANKS COUNCILMEMBER NELSON. A MINOR QUESTION ACTUALLY PROBABLY FOR YOU, MAYOR, IS IF WE'RE SUPPORTING SOMETHING THAT'S IN THE LEGISLATURE, DO WE NEED TO MAKE ANY MODIFICATIONS TO OUR LEGISLATIVE APPROVED LEGISLATIVE AGENDA? I THINK I THINK WE HAVE A CATCH ALL PERFECT. I LIKE TO CATCH UP. WE HAVE A CATCH ALL THE THINGS THAT ARE NEEDED. IT KIND OF GIVES US THE OPPORTUNITY AS THINGS AS NEW ISSUES THAT WE'RE ABLE TO DO TO WORK ON BEHALF OF ON BEHALF OF THE CITY IN WAYS THAT ARE CONSISTENT WITH WHAT THE CITY HAS DONE IN THE PAST. AND I SHOULD CLARIFY, MR. MAYOR AND COUNCILORS WE HAVE NOT FORMALLY GIVEN ANY LETTERS OF SUPPORT YET WE HAVE BEEN ASKED TO SUPPORT SO AS STAFF AND WE HAVE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH STAFF BUT HAVE NOT FORMALLY DONE ACTUALLY TAKING ANY ACTION THAT WE SHOULD SAY SO THAT'S WHY ANYTHING ELSE? WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION TONIGHT. YEAH, I APPRECIATE EVERYONE'S TIME IN THEIR FEEDBACK AND LIKE I SAID FOLLOWING TONIGHT'S MEETING I WILL BE ENGAGING WITH THE UTILITIES TO KIND OF SHARE TONIGHT'S THOUGHTS, THEIR FEEDBACK ON THAT AND THEN I HOPE TO COME BACK BEFORE YOU IN MARCH WITH SOME FORMAL CODE CHANGES FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AND THEN HAVE THESE IN PLACE ANY CHANGES IN PLACE HOPEFULLY IN TIME FOR THE 2025 CONSTRUCTION SEASON. GREAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU ALL. COUNSELOR, THE LAST ITEM ON AGENDA IS THAT IN 5.2 OUR CITY COUNCIL POLICY AND ISSUE UPDATE I HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS A RECAP OF OUR LISTENING SESSION THAT WE HELD EARLIER THIS EVENING. WE HAD A TOTAL OF I THINK SIX SPEAKERS EARLIER TONIGHT WE HEARD FROM MARIA GANNON AND CHRISTINE THOMPSON WHO WERE IN FAVOR OF FINDING A COMPROMISE AND MORE ROOM BASICALLY FOR THE BOUTIQUE AT THE NEW BLOOMINGTON HEALTH AND WELLNESS CENTER THERE IS CURRENTLY A BOUTIQUE AT AT CREEKSIDE AND WE'RE TRYING TO FIND THE BEST WAY TO TO INCLUDE THE BOUTIQUE IN THE COMMUNITY HEALTH AND WELLNESS CENTER. BUT I DON'T THINK WE'RE QUITE THERE YET IN TERMS OF WHAT MEETS THE NEEDS OF THE CITY BUT ALSO WHAT MEETS THE NEEDS OF THE BOUTIQUE BOOTLEGGERS THE FOLKS WHO THE CRAFTERS WHO CREATE THINGS FOR THE BOUTIQUE. SO THAT CONVERSATION CONTINUES . WE HEARD ALSO FROM SHEILA BARRY, CHERYL CRUZ AND MICHELLE SAUSSY REGARDING AN INCIDENT OR AN ONGOING INTERACTION BETWEEN THE BLOOMINGTON POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE BERRY FAMILY AND THEY PROVIDED SOME DETAILS FOR THE COUNCIL AND ASKED US TO CONSIDER. UNFORTUNATELY THERE IS AN ONGOING INVESTIGATION RELATED TO FAMILY MEMBERS AND A NUMBER OF THINGS WITHIN THIS. SO WE WEREN'T ABLE TO PROVIDE A WHOLE LOT OF INFORMATION. WHAT WE WERE ABLE TO DO IS COLLECT THE INFORMATION AND I'M SURE WE'LL CONFIRM OR EXCUSE ME CITY POLICEHIEF BOOKER WILL WE'LL TAKE THAT INFORMATION AS WE MOVE FORWARD AND TRY AND FIGURE OUT A PATH . AND FINALLY WE HEARD FROM ANDREW DAVIS, A LOCAL SMALL BUSINESS OWNER WHO HAS ONGOING ISSUES WITH THINGS PARKED IN THE DRIVEWAY AND THE CITY'S PUBLIC HEALTH AND PUBLIC COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT FOLKS TELLING THEM THAT HE CAN'T PARK IN THE FRONT YARD. AND SO WE OFFERED TO SET UP A MEETING BETWEEN MR. DAVIS AND OUR OUR FOLKS AT THE CITY TO FIGURE OUT A WAY THAT THEY COULD CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD, THAT THERE COULD BE A SOLUTION TO THIS. IT HAS TO DO WITH PARKING TRAILERS AND EQUIPMENT AND SO ON IN THE FRONT YARD AND HOW THAT RELATES TO CITY CODE . SO UM, SO THAT WAS OUR LISTENING SESSION THIS WEEK. I ALSO WANTED TO TAKE JUST A MINUTE IF I COULD COUNCIL EXCUSE ME SO I'VE SEEN ONLINE YOU MAY HAVE AS WELL WE'VE HAD A THERE'S BEEN SOME CONCERN POSTED BY SOME FOLKS ABOUT THE COMMUNITY HEALTH AND WELL WELLNESS CENTER PLANNED FOR THE CREEKSIDE AND AS IT RELATES TO SOME OF THE HOMES IN THE PROPERTIES ON NEWTON AND MORGAN AVENUES AND AS YOU KNOW WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF PLANNING THIS FACILITY IS GOING TO SUPPORT OUR RECREATIONAL AND FITNESS ACTIVITIES AND COMMUNITY PROGRAMS FOR FOLKS THROUGHOUT OUR COMMUNITY OF ALL AGES AND SO ON. AND THIS NEW CENTER IS GOING TO REPLACE BOTH CREEKSIDE AND OUR PUBLIC HEALTH BUILDING AND . THERE IS I THINK INFORMATION ONLINE RIGHT NOW THERE ARE CONCERNS THAT THE CITY IS TAKING HOMES TO TO TRY AND ACCOMMODATE AN EXPANSION OF THE COMMUNITY HEALTH AND WELLNESS IN THE CENTER AND WHAT I WANTED TO DO WAS TO BE SURE THAT WE CLARIFY THAT THE CITY IS IN FACT NOT TAKING ANY HOMES. THERE ARE NO CONDEMNATION PROCEEDINGS. THERE'S NO EMINENT DOMAIN PROCEEDINGS. WHAT WE ARE IN IS CURRENTLY AN INQUIRY PHASE OF CONVERSATIONS WITH SOME OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS ON BOTH NEWTON MORGAN AVENUES WHICH WE'RE EVALUATING POSSIBLE VOLUNTARY SALES OF THOSE PROPERTIES TO THE CITY AS POSSIBLE OPTIONS TO IMPROVE ACCESS TO PARKING AND GREEN SPACE NEAR THE CITY. THE NEW FACILITY AND THE PROPERTIES ARE SEVERAL HOUSES CLOSEST TO 98TH STREET. LAST FALL THE CITY CONSULTANT REACHED OUT TO THESE PROPERTY OWNERS TO GAUGE THEIR INTEREST IN SELLING THEIR PROPERTIES TO THE CITY. NOW THEY'RE TAKING BUT A VOLUNTARY SALE OF THEIR PROPERTIES TO THE CITY AND A CATALYST FOR THESE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE PROPERTY OWNERS HAS BEEN THE COMMUNITY WE'VE HEARD A LOT OF FEEDBACK THAT THE COMMUNITY WANTS ACCESS TO NATURE AND GREENSPACE TO COMPLEMENT THE NEW FACILITIES SUCH AS OUTDOOR AREAS. WE WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT TIGHT ON THAT TYPE OF OUTDOOR PROGRAMING GREEN AREA WITH THE CURRENT CONFIGURATION SO WE'RE LOOKING FOR WAYS TO POSSIBLY EXPAND IT. WE HAVE DONE SEVERAL ROUNDS OF ENGAGEMENT TO GATHER COMMUNITY AND GREAT FEEDBACK INCLUDING AS YOU ALL YOU YOU ALL KNOW A SURVEY, A KICKOFF EVENT, A BUNCH OF FOCUS GROUPS AND A RECENT EVENT WHERE COMMUNITY MEMBERS COULD REVIEW AND COMMENT ON THE SCHEMATIC DESIGNS. AND TO BE CLEAR TO ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS HERE AND TO EVERYBODY WATCHING, WE'RE HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH THE PROPERTY OWNERS TO SEE IF THEY'RE INTERESTED IN SELLING. THERE'S NO TAKING A PROPERTY GOING ON. WE'RE HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH THE PROPERTY OWNERS TO SEE IF THEY'RE INTERESTED IN SELLING IF THE PROPERTY OWNERS ELECT TO SELL THEIR PROPERTIES, THE SELLERS WILL BE PAID FOR THE PROPERTY AND THEY'LL RECEIVE RELOCATE ASSISTANCE. AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE ALSO THAT NO DECISIONS HAVE BEEN MADE. THE COUNCIL HASN'T TALKED ABOUT THIS IN A WHILE AND THE COUNCIL WILL NEED TO DECIDE THAT THE CITY WOULD LIKE TO PURCHASE THE PROPERTIES AND IF SO THE COUNCIL WOULD TAKE THAT ACTION AND ANY PURCHASES IN AN OPEN PUBLIC MEETING. SO I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT INFORMATION WAS OUT THERE. I'LL REPEAT IT AGAIN ON WEDNESDAY IN MY COUNCIL MINUTE BECAUSE THIS IS ONE OF THOSE DEALS WHERE SOME OF THE INFLAMMATORY STATEMENTS AND SOME OF THE MISINFORMATION WAS HALFWAY AROUND THE WORLD WHILE WE WERE PUTTING ON OUR SHOES AGAIN TRYING TO GET THE TRUTH OUT THERE. SO I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO LET FOLKS KNOW EXACTLY WHAT WAS HAPPENING. NOBODY IS BEING FORCED OUT OF THEIR HOMES. NO ONE HAS NO HOMES ARE BEING TAKEN. THIS IS A CONVERSATION WITH WITH PROPERTY OWNERS ABOUT THE POTENTIAL SALE OF THEIR HOMES AND QUESTIONS ON THAT COUNCIL VERY GOOD MADAM INTERIM CITY MANAGER, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING FOR US THIS EVENING? I DO. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. I HAVE TWO UPDATES BOTH SALVATORE AND ONE WAY I GUESS SO BLOOMINGTON THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON HAS BEEN SELECTED TO PRESENT AT THE INTERNATIONAL CITY-COUNTY CITY-COUNTY MANAGERS ASSOCIATION. THAT'S A LOT OF TO SAY AND WE LIKE TO CALL IT ACIMA BUT I WANTED TO SPELL THAT OUT FOR PEOPLE WE WERE SELECTED TO PRESENT IN OCTOBER IN TAMPA ON GROWING RIPPLES LASTING LEGACY A CULTURE CIVIC ENGAGEMENT IN BLOOMINGTON ERIC HOLTHOUSE AN AARON WILLIAMS WILL PRESENT THIS SESSION OF CIVIC ENGAGEMENT IN BLOOMINGTON ARE THEY'LL PRESENT THE SESSION AND SHARE HOW OUR UNIQUE LEADERSHIP PROGRAM GROWS RESIDENT CAPACITY TO SERVE THEIR COMMUNITY HOW BOARD AND COMMISSION MEMBERS ENGAGE IN STRATEGIC PLANNING AND CONTINUOUS IMPROVEMENT TO ENHANCE THEIR EXPERIENCE AND IMPACT AND CONNECTEDNESS AND HOW INVESTMENTS ARE MADE IN THE CITY'S YOUTH TO GROW TOMORROW'S LEADERS IN GOVERNMENT. SO WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT OPPORTUNITY. SPECIAL THANKS TO CAITLYN DANIELS FOR HELPING COORDINATE OUR ICMJE SUBMISSIONS AS WELL AND CAITLIN'S HERE TONIGHT SO WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THAT. THAT'S VERY COOL. REGULATIONS ON THAT IS THIS IS THE PLACE TO GO A YEAR TO COLLABORATE AND CONNECT WITH CITY LEADERS ACROSS THE ENTIRE NATION. SO WE'RE VERY WE'RE VERY EXCITED. AND THEN SECOND TONIGHT IS OUR VERY OWN SAFA MERCER'S LAST CITY COUNCIL MEETING. SO WE WANTED TO TAKE A MOMENT TO LIFT HER UP. IT IS OUR LAST COUNCIL MEETING. IT IS NOT HER LAST DAY AT WORK . SHE IS TAKING ON A NEW ROLE IN THE BLOOMINGTON POLICE DEPARTMENT AND SERVING ALONGSIDE THE POLICE CHIEF'S OFFICE AND ADMINISTRATION. SHE SERVED IN THIS ROLE OVER A YEAR AND IT WAS CNTLESS HOURS WITH ALL OF YOU AND WITH EVERYONE WHO JOINED AND DID IT WITH A SMILE AND WITH SUCH RESPECT AS WELL AS HELP TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR LISTENING SESSIONS WENT WELL. SHE HAS SERVED THE MAYOR AND ALL OF YOU AS THE COUNCIL MEMBERS AND THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE WITH PROFESSIONALISM AGAIN WITH RESPECT AND WITH EXCELLENT CUSTOMER SERVICE. SHE ALWAYS TAKES THE TIME TO ENGAGE PEOPLE ACROSS THE CITY WITH A HUMAN CENTERED APPROACH AND SHE'LL TAKE THAT APPROACH WITH HER AS SHE CONTINUES TO SERVE RESIDENTS IN A FRIENDLY AND RELATIONAL MANAGED MANNER AND SHE GREETS EVERYONE GUESTS ,STAFF CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE WITH AN AUTHENTIC SMILE AND KINDNESS WE WILL MISS YOU IN THAT SPACE BUT WE KNOW THAT YOU WILL CONTINUE TO SERVE THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON IN YOUR NEW ROLE AND WE'RE SO GLAD THAT YOU ARE CONTINUING TO STAY WITH US. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH. CONGRATULATIONS SO FAR. WE'RE CERTAINLY GOING TO MISS YOU. I'M HAPPY THAT YOU'RE MOVING ON TO BIGGER AND BETTER THINGS BUT WE'RE CERTAINLY GOING TO MISS YOU AND. THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR ALL THE WORK THAT YOU HAVE DONE FOR ME PERSONALLY FOR THE COUNCIL AS A WHOLE AND JUST WORKING IN THE CITY MANAGER'S KEEPING THINGS MOVING SMOOTHLY. SO THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH MY. IT'S MY PLEASURE. THANK YOU, CHIEF HODGES. YOU OWE ME ONE NOW YOU WANT ME ONE COUNCIL. ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD TONIGHT, COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO I JUST WANTED TO SHARE ANOTHER GREAT PUBLIC FINANCE SEMINAR FROM THE ELDERS FOLKS THIS PAST THURSDAY AND FRIDAY SEVERAL STAFF MEMBERS ATTENDED COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN AND I WERE ABLE TO ATTEND AS WELL. I'M ALWAYS I'M ALWAYS GRATEFUL TO OPPORTUNITY TO GO TO THAT BECAUSE I THINK YOU KNOW, AS WE ALL SIT UP HERE WE KNOW THAT OUR WORK WITH OUR FINANCES IS AMONG THE IMPORTANT WE DO IN IT IT MEANS UNDERSTANDING A LITTLE BIT MORE EVERY DAY ABOUT THE BEST WAY THAT WE CAN SERVE THE PUBLIC WITH THOSE DOLLARS. SO I TOOK AWAY A COUPLE OF REALLY KEY LEARNINGS AND ESPECIALLY AROUND OUR DISTRICTS AND SINCE WE'VE BEEN LIKE YOU KNOW I'VE CONSTANTLY BEEN LEARNING ABOUT HOW THOSE THINGS CAN BE LEVERAGED AND I THINK THERE'S SOME OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO DO MORE IN THE SMALL BUSINESS SPACE AROUND THE CITY NOW WE'VE GOT THE PORT AUTHORITY AND THE AND THE YOU KNOW, OUR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT TEAMS KIND OF LOOKING CITYWIDE ON THAT FRONT AND THERE WERE SOME NICE EXAMPLES GEN ABOUT HOW YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT PROJECTS THAT WERE DONE LEVERAGING THAT. SO MORE MORE I'M SURE WE'LL HEAR OVER TIME BUT JUST A SHOUT OUT ON THAT AND THANK YOU MUCH FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO JOIN EVERYONE ON STAFF ON THAT. I GOT SOME GOOD SIDE CONVERSATIONS TOO AND SOME FUN PICTURES THAT I POSTED UP ON LINKEDIN SO THAT WAS VERY FUN. THAT'S WHY I THANK YOU AND THE ARTS COUNCIL VERY GOOD THEN CAN THE COUNCIL IT'S 811 AND WE ARE THROUGH OUR AGENDA I WILL LOOK FOR A MOTION TO ADJOURN SOME OF THE MOTION MY COUNCILMEMBER A SECOND MY COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO TO ADJOURN THIS EVENING ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY SAYING I OPPOSE MOTION CARRIES FIVE ZERO THANK YOU COUNSEL FOR THE DISCUSSION TONIGHT THANKS TO STAFF FOR BEING HERE AND ACTUALLY KEEPING THE PLACE WARM FOR US BECAUSE NOBODY ELSE IS HERE THANKS TO EVERYBODY WHO'S TUNED IN AND EVERYBODY HAVE GREAT REST OF YOUR WEEK. HAVE A GOOD ONE. THANKS