>>COUN. BASSAN: GOOD EVENING. AND THEN THERE'S THAT. GOOD EVENING, IT'S NOVEMBER 5th, 2025. THE 41st MEETING OF THE 26th COUNCIL WILL COME TO ORDER. ALL COUNCILORS WILL BE PRESENT WITH COUNCILOR SANCHEZ JOINING VIA ZOOM AND COUNCILOR LEWIS COMING UP JUST A LITTLE BIT LATER THIS EVENING. WE'RE GOING TO START WITH A MOMENT OF SILENCE FOLLOWED BY THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE IN ENGLISH AND THEN IN SPANISH. >> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. >>COUN. BASSAN: PARKING PASSES ARE FORKEDED FOR MEMBERS OFT PUBLIC MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, SILTY STAFF AND THE MEDIA HAVE THE ABILITY VIEW THIS PERSON AND LIVE STREAM THROUGH FOUR DID IT PLATFORMS. GOVTV, YOUTUBE AND ZOOM. THIS MEETING IS CLOSED CAPTIONED AND YOU MAY ENABLE THE CLOSED CAPTIONING SERVICES ON YOUR TELEVISION OR DEVICE AT THIS TIME. THE RECORDING OF THIS AND ALL PAST COUNCIL MEETING WILL REMAIN VIEWABLE ON THE CITY COUNCIL WEBSITE. STAFF IS AVAILABLE VIA TELEPHONE IF MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC NEED ASSISTANCE. CALL 50 A -- 505-768- THE COUNCIL WILL TAKE BREAK AT 7:00 P.M. WITH REGARD TO DECORM WE WANT TONIGHT'S PROCEEDINGS BE AS CIVIL AND RESPECTFUL. UPON THE SECOND OR CONTINUED DISRUPTION THAT INDIVIDUAL WILL BE ASKED TO LEAVE THE CHAMBERS. IF NECESSARY SECURITY WILL BE ASKED TO ESCOURT THAT PERSON OUT OF THE CHAMBERS. SUCH REMOVAL WILL BE EFFECT FOR THE REMAINDER. AND MAY RECESS UNTIL ORDER IS RESTORED AND MAY CLEAR THE CHAMBERS PARTICIPATING IN THE DISTURBANCE. THIS MEETING WILL GO SMOOTHER IF WE'RE RESPECTFUL OF ONE ANOTHER. WE'RE GOING TO START WITH OUR APPEAL THIS EVENING. WE'RE AMBIGUITY . >> WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO APPEALS. CYNTHIA HERNANDEZ APPEAL FOR A WALL VARIANCE OF 3 FEET TO THE MAXIMUM THREE FOOT WALL HEIGHT IN THE FRONT YARD FOR THE PROPERTY AT 3421 ABBEY COURT, NORTHWEST. AND 2025-0015. PLEASE EXPLAIN THIS APPEAL. >> THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. GOOD EVENING, COUNCILORS. THE ISSUE IN THIS APPEAL IS WHETHER A WALL PERMIT MAJOR AND VARIANCE SHOULD BE APPROVED FOR AN EXISTING SIX-FOOT TALL FRONT AND SIDE YARD FENCE THAT WAS CONSTRUCTED WITHOUT A PERMIT LOCATED AT 3421 ABBEY COURT NORTHWEST. THIS IS IN COUNCIL DISTRICT ONE. THE ZONING HEARING EXAMINER DETERMINED THAT THE APPLICATION SHOULD BE DENIED BECAUSE THE APPLICANT FAILED TO SATISFY THE 20% RULE FOR FRONT YARD FENCES EXCEEDING 3 FEET IN HEIGHT. THE 20% RULES REQUIRES 20% OF THE PROPERTY WITHIN 330 FEET AND ON THE SAME STREET AS THE PROCESS MUST ALSO HAVE FRONT YARD WALLS OR FENCES TALLER THAN THREE FEET IN HEIGHT. THE APPLICANT APPEALED THE DECISION OF THE ZHE TO DENY THE APPLICATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL WHO REFERRED IT TO THE LAND USE HEARING OFFICER, THE LUHO RECOMMEND THE CITY COUNCIL DENY THE APPEAL AND UPHOLD THE ZHE'S DECISION. THE LUHOU FOUND BECAUSE THERE'S 15 TOTAL PROPERTIES WITHIN 330 AND ON THE SAME STREET, THE APPLICANT MUST SHOW THREE PROPERTIES WITH TALLER WALLS. HOWEVER THE EVIDENCE PRODUCED SHOWS THERE'S ONLY TWO PROPERTIES WITH TALLER WALLS. THE APPELLANT DOES NOT DISPUTE THE ZHE CONCLUSION OR THE EVIDENCE IN THE RECORD THAT SUPPORTED THE DECISION TO DENY THE APPLICATION. INSTEAD, THE LUHO FOUND IN THE APPEAL THE APPELLANT RESUBMITTED THE SAME EVIDENCE SHE SUBMITTED WITH THE APPLICATION TO THE ZHE AND ARGUED THE FENCE IS NECESSARY TO PROTECT THE CHILDREN SHE CARES FOR IN HER DAYCARE BUSINESS SHE OPERATES FROM THE HOME. THE LUHO CONCLUDED THE FINDING THE APPELLANT FAILED TO SATISFY THE 20% RULE IS SUPPORTED BY FACTUAL EVIDENCE AND BE UPHELD. THE LUHO RECOMMEND DENIALS, AND VARIANCE REQUEST BE UPHELD. THIS IS ACCEPT OR REJECT. YOU WILL NOT HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT OR APPELLANT. I'LL DO MY BEST TO ANSWER QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILORS, WOULD ANYBODY CARE TO MAKE A MOTION? OR DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? MADAM VICE PRESIDENT. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. JUST A COUPLE QUESTIONS. I KNOW THIS IS SOMETHING THAT CAME UP WITH SOME OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR CHANGES FOR FENCE HEIGHT. IT'S BEEN PROPOSED FOR THE IDO. YOU KNOW, I DON'T SEE THE PLANNING DIRECTOR HERE. MY QUESTION IS THAT HOW DO WE ADDRESS -- THERE'S TONS IN DISTRICT THREE OVER THIS HEIGHT. I KNOW IT TURNS INTO -- IT'S A STRETCH. OKAY. OKAY. I GOT IT. TELL ME WHAT IS THE CURRENT RULE. >> CURRENTLY, MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR PEÑA, THE IDO ALLOWS FOR FRONT AND SIDE YARD WALLS AND FENCES AT THREE FEET IN HEIGHT. AND TO EXCEED THAT, YOU'RE REQUIRED TO OBTAIN A WALL PERMIT MAJOR WHICH IS WHERE THE 20% RULE KICKS IN. SO, AS OF RIGHT NOW THE IDO ALLOWS FOR 3 FEET IN HEIGHT. >>COUN. PEÑA: MADAM PRESIDENT, I'M TRYING TO BE CAREFUL WITH WHAT WITH I ASK. IF THERE'S -- YOU'RE JUSTIFIED FOR HAVING IT IF OTHER NEIGHBORS HAVE IT? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR PEÑA, THAT'S CORRECT. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU SO MUCH. >>COUN. BASSAN: I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE LUHO RECOMMENDATION AND FINDING. THERE'S A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR GROUT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? SEEING NONE. THE MOTION IS TO ACCEPT THE LUHO RECOMMENDATION AND FINDING. MADAM CLERK, CALL THE ROLL. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: NO. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: NO. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >> THAT PASSES ON A 7-2. >>COUN. BASSAN: ALL RIGHT, COUNCILORS, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE BACK IN OUR AGENDA TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER THREE, PROCLAMATIONS AND PRESENTATIONS. WE HAVE NONE THIS EVENING. NEXT, ADMINISTRATION QUESTION AND ANSWER PERIOD. COUNCILOR CHAMPINE. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I HAVE A HANDFUL OF QUESTIONS TONIGHT. MADAM PRESIDENT, LET ME -- APD RECENTLY DID A SETTLEMENT OF -- DOING, LET'S SEE, ACADEMY. LAWSUIT SETTLED. I'M CURIOUS, MY QUESTION IS WHERE DOES THAT SETTLEMENT FUNDING COME FROM? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE, I BELIEVE CITY ATTORNEY KEEFE IS ONLINE TO BE ABLE TO RESPOND. SHE'S NOT ONLINE YET? >>COUN. BASSAN: I DON'T KNOW IF SHE KNEW. THERE'S A REQUEST BY A COUNCILOR TO MOVE Q&A UP TONIGHT. IT WAS EARLIER. I DON'T KNOW IF WE WANT BOUNCE BACK TOWARD THE END OF Q&A, COUNCILOR? OKAY. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE, CITY ATTORNEY KEEFE IS ONLINE TO RESPOND TO YOUR QUESTION REGARDING THE REENALITY APD ACADEMY CASE. >>COUN. BASSAN: GOOD EVENING, MS. KEEFE. >> GOOD EVENING. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR, ASK THE QUESTION AGAIN. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: MADAM PRESIDENT, MS. KEEFE, APD RECENTLY SETTLED A LAWSUIT IN REFERENCE THE ACADEMY. THE TRAINING ACADEMY. I'M CURIOUS ON WHERE THE SETTLEMENT FUNDING COMES FROM. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE, WE TOOK THAT CASE TO TRIAL. WE DID NOT SETTLE THE LAWSUIT. UNFORTUNATELY, WE ALSO DID NOT PREVAIL AT TRIAL. WE INTEND TO APPEAL THE VERDICT. THE JUDGE MADE SOME LEGAL RULINGS THAT WE BELIEVE ARE INCORRECT AND WE HAVE SOLID GROUND TO APPEAL. UNFORTUNATELY, THAT WAS THE RESULT. THERE WAS A RULING AGAINST THE CITY. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: I'LL ASK A DIFFERENT QUESTION. IF YOU'RE NOT ABLE TO APPEAL IT, WHERE WOULD THE FUNDING OF THE SETTLEMENT COME FROM? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE, THE FUNDING COMES FROM RISK FUND. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: THE RISK FUND. OKAY. PERFECT. THANK YOU, MS. KEEFE. >> YOU'RE WELCOME. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: IF, MADAM PRESIDENT, CAO, IF IT ISN'T APPEALED THEN IT DOES STAND THAT THE ADMINISTRATION WAS AT FAULT. I DON'T KNOW IF IT YOU CAN ANSWER THIS, BUT IS THERE ANY -- IS THERE A REPRIMAND THE CHIEF DOES FOR CONDUCT UNBECOMING? I DON'T KNOW. WHEN I MADE A MISTAKE THERE WAS A CATCH-ALL OF CONDUCT UNBECOMING IF THERE'S CONDUCT THE DEPARTMENT DOESN'T LIKE. IF IT'S FOUND THE OFFICER IS VIOLATING SOP, IS THERE SOMETHING IN THE SOP FOR CHIEF THAT IT'S FOUND IN THE SETTLEMENT OR NOT IN THE SETTLEMENT BUT FOUND IN THE TRIAL SHOT HE THAT HE DID WRONG? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE, I'M LOOKING AT CITY ATTORNEY KEEFE. I KNOW SHE -- I WANT TO MAKE SURE I DON'T SEE ANYTHING ON RECORD THAT WOULD BE AN ISSUE FOR THE CASE. I JUST NEED A NOD FROM HER AS TO WHETHER OR NOT SHE WANTS ME TO RESPOND. >> I CAN RESPOND. IF IT'S ALL RIGHT WITH THE COUNCILOR. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES, MA'AM. >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE, I DON'T THINK THE VERDICT NECESSARY IMPLIES CHIEF MEDINA OR ANYONE AT APD DID ANYTHING WRONG. TO BE CLEAR, THERE WAS AN INVESTIGATION INTO THE CONDUCT OF THE ACADEMY INSTRUCTORS. THERE WAS A FINDING THEY HAD VIOLATING SOPs. AND THEY WERE ALL ISSUED VERBAL REPRIMANDS. THE JURY MADE A DETERMINATION THAT DISCIPLINE SHOULD HAVE BEEN ENACTED DOESN'T MEAN ANYONE INVOLVED DID ANYTHING WRONG. THEY ALL ACTED IN GOOD FAITH, BELIEVING THE CONDUCT IN QUESTION VIOLATING THE SOPs. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: THANK YOU, FOR THAT ANSWER. MADAM PRESIDENT, MY NEXT QUESTION, THE ADMINISTRATION -- MS. KEEFE YOU MIGHT NEED TO STAY ON. IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE AN ANSWER FOR YOU. THE ADMINISTRATION ANNOUNCED IT WAS GOING INTO A LAWSUIT REFERENCING MONEY NOT GIVE TOON THE RAIL TRAIL. THIS IS ME JUST LEARNING EVEN IN YEAR TWO OF HOW THE PROCESS WORKS. HOW DOES THE ADMINISTRATION HAVE CART BLANCH TO ENTER THE ENTIRE CITY INTO THE LAWSUIT? WHEN WE PASS A BILL THAT GOES TO THE MAYOR'S OFFICE FOR SIGNATURE OR VETO, HOW IS IT ONE PART CAN GO INTO LAWSUIT WITHOUT CHECKING WITH THE OTHER PART? >> SURE, MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE. UNDER OUR SYSTEM, THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH DOES HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO DECIDE WHETHER TO ENTER INTO LITIGATION. I DO NEED APPROVAL FROM THE CAO AND FROM THE MAYOR. WE DO NOT NEED APPROVAL FROM CITY COUNCIL UNLESS THERE'S CERTAIN -- THERE'S AN ORDINANCE AND CERTAIN ACTIONS THAT DIRECTLY RELATE TO COUNCIL WHERE I MIGHT NEED APPROVAL. IN TERMS OF THE FUNDING, WE WOULD HAVE TO GO TO COUNCIL IF WE NEEDED NEW MONEY FOR THE LETIGATION. IF WE CAN RELY ON EXISTING BUDGET, OR I CAN RELY ON MY EXISTING STAFF, WE DON'T NEED MONEY AND WOULDN'T NEED TO GO TO COUNCIL. WE WOULD HAVE TO FIND MONEY IN THE EXISTING BUDGET IN ORDER TO DO IT. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: MADAM PRESIDENT, MS. KEEFE, WHAT'S THE ORDINANCE THAT ALLOWS THE EXECUTIVE TO DO THAT? DO YOU KNOW? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE, IT'S REALLY THE CITY CHARTER. GRANTING EXECUTIVE POWER TO THE MAYOR. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: DOES THE CITY CHARTER -- MADAM PRESIDENT, DOES THE CITY CHARTER ALLOW THE COUNCIL TO GO INTO A LAWSUIT WITHOUT -- WE HAVE THE SAME POWER? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE YES. IF COUNCIL WANTED TO ENTER A LAWSUIT FOR ITS PURPOSES, IT WOULD NOT NEED APPROVAL FROM THE MAYOR. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: VERY COOL. I'M JUST TRYING TO LEARN. IT'S ONE OF THE THINGS WHEN I SAW THAT I WENT -- I GET TO ASK THOSE QUESTIONS. A FOLLOW UP TO THE RAIL TRAIL QUESTION. WHAT IS THE TOTAL COST OF THE RAIL TRAIL. IT WAS 11.5 MILLION PULLED AWAY, BUT I'M HEARING UPWARDS OF 90 MILLION. IT'S A THIRD WE'RE MISSING WITH THE 11, BUT I THINK IT'S 11 MILLION PER MILE WHICH PUT IT AT 80 OR $90 MILLION. CAN I HAVE CLARIFICATION OF THE COST? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE, EACH SEGMENT OF THE RAIL TRAIL IS DISTINCTLY DIFFERENT FROM OTHERS. SO THE EXACT ESTIMATE HAS BEEN BASE -- THAT YOU HEARD AT ANY POINT HAS BEEN ESTIMATION BASED ON MILEAGE, BUT ALSO THOSE CHANGE EACH TIME WE HAVE KNOWLEDGE AND UNDERSTANDING RELATED TO THAT. I'LL BE HAPPY TO PROVIDE FOR YOU ALL EACH SEGMENT THAT HAS BEEN PLANNED AND THE ESTIMATED COSTS. WHETHER THOSE ARE BASED UPON ACTUAL PLANS OR WE CAN ALSO PROVIDE ONGOING ESTIMATION. THIS SECTION WAS RELATED TO THE PORTION THAT RUNS FROM CENTRAL TO LOMAS RIGHT ALONG THE RAILS. AND I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT MEASUREMENT OF WHAT THIS FUNDING WAS DEDICATED TO. THE GRANT IS RELATED TO THE FACT THEY'RE ON THE RAIL TRAIL AND A SEGMENT THAT IS -- THE RAIL IS ALREADY CONTINUES TO BE IN USE FOR RAIL USE. I'D BE HAPPY TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION RELATED TO THAT. OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD I DON'T KNOW EVERY SEGMENT AND THE PORTION THEY COST. OR THEY'RE ESTIMATED AT AT THIS POINT. EVERY PORTION, AS I SAID, IS -- WE HAVE THEM SEGMENTED BASED UPON THE CONDITIONS WE'RE RENOVATING AND CHANGING. IN SOME SECTIONS, IT'S LANDSCAPING. IN OTHER SECTIONS WE'RE PUTTING INFRASTRUCTURE IN. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: MADAM PRESIDENT, IS IT FAIR TO SAY THIS SECTION OF THE $11.5 MILLION IS GOING TO BE $30 MILLION? IT WAS ANNOUNCED BY THE ADMINISTRATION SAYING THIS IS A THIRD. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE, I DON'T WANT TO ANSWER INCORRECTLY. I APOLOGIZE. I THINK THAT IS ACCURATE THAT THE SECTION -- THERE'S A PORTION BASED UPON THE RAIL IMPACT THAT WAS MORE COSTLY. I THINK THIS IS -- THAT DOESN'T SEEM ACCURATE TO ME IN TERMS OF THINKING ABOUT WHAT WHICH SECTION COST WHAT PORTION WE WOULD BE SPEAKING TO WHEN WE'RE TALKING TO THAT -- >>COUN. CHAMPINE: MADAM PRESIDENT, I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU DON'T WANT TO GIVE OUT INACCURATE INFORMATION. BUT IT'S IS IN A PRESS RELEASE AND GIVES THE NOTION THAT THIS IS A THIRD OF THE COST AND IT DOESN'T SAY THIS IS THE THIRD OF A COST OF THIS SECTION. IT'S NOT CLARIFIED. YET THE PUBLIC GOES IT'S ONLY $30 MILLION. IT'S MISLEADING. THAT'S WHY I'M CONFUSED IN THAT SENSE. IT WOULD BE GREAT TO BE ABLE TO GIVE ME -- IF YOU COULD, PROVIDE WHAT THAT $11 MILLION -- WHAT SECTION AND THE TOTAL COST WAS BECAUSE YOU PUT IT OUT FOR BID SO YOU KNOW WHEN YOU HAVE AN IDEA. THANK YOU. MADAM PRESIDENT, MY LAST QUESTION. I SAW THAT THE BROKEN WINDOWS PROGRAM IS COMING BACK. I WAS CURIOUS ON HOW THE FIRST BATCH WENT. AND I HAD A COUPLE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE SECOND. I KNOW THE DIRECTOR IS HERE TO DISCUSS WHAT -- YOU DON'T GET TO SIT DOWN. GO AHEAD. NO. WHAT THE FIRST PROGRAM DID. WE DIRECTED $200,000 AND I THINK IT CAME OUT OF PUBLIC SAFETY BUDGET AND GOT MOVED TO ANOTHER DEAL TO GET AWAY FROM THE ANTI-DONATION CLAUSE. HOW DID THE FIRST ROUND GO? >>COUN. BASSAN: DIRECTOR. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE, THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. THE FIRST GRANT WE HAD A -- PLEASE TELL ME IF I'M GIVING YOU INFORMATION YOU'RE NOT INTERESTED IN. WE HAD A TOTAL OF 93 APPLICANTS. OF THOSE 93, 87 WERE ELIGIBLE. THE OTHER SIX WERE NOT ELIGIBLE BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT IN CITY LIMITS. THEY'RE IN THE COUNTY. AND REASONS LIKE THAT. THE AVERAGE REIMBURSEMENT WAS JUST SOUTH OF $2,300 PER BUSINESS. 210 WINDOWS WERE REPLACED. AND AS YOU POINTED OUT, ONE THING THAT'S REALLY NEED ABOUT THIS PROGRAM IS EVERY ONE OF THE APPLICANTS PARTNERED WITH APD TO DO A SECURITY SURVEY WHICH ESSENTIALLY IS A CONVERSATION WITH PROFESSIONALS AT APD. IF YOU PUT A LIGHT THERE OR A CAMERA THERE, YOU MIGHT SEE DIFFERENT RESULTS. THAT WAS THE FIRST ITERATION OF THE PROGRAM. THE SECOND ITERATION OF THE PROGRAM OPENED ON OCTOBER 23rd, SO IT'S ABOUT TWO WEEKS OLD. UP TO TODAY, THIS MORNING, WE HAD EIGHT APPLICANTS. OF THOSE EIGHT APPLICANTS, TWO APPLICANTS HAVE COMPLETED THE APPLICATION PROCESS AND WERE READY TO CUT CHECKS. THOSE CHECKS WILL BE AVAILABLE NOT THIS FRIDAY, BUT THIS COMING FRIDAY. THE OTHER SIX ARE IN VARIOUS STAGES OF THE APPLICATION PROCESS. FIVE SECURITY SITE HARDENING SURVEYS HAVE BEEN SCHEDULED. ONE HAS YET TO BE SCHEDULED. IT'S MOVING AHEAD AS ANTICIPATED. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: MADAM PRESIDENT, WHAT'S THE TOTAL AMOUNT ALLOCATED THIS TIME AROUND? >> IT IS JUST NORTH OF $200,000. IT'S $201,500. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: OKAY. MADAM PRESIDENT, YOU SAID THAT EIGHT -- WHAT IS THE QUALIFICATIONS? OBVIOUSLY CITY LIMITS. IS THERE A CERTAIN PART OF TOWN. I SEEM TO RECALL -- >> ANY -- THIS DISTINCTION IS IMPORTANT. ANY BUSINESS WITHIN ALBUQUERQUE ZID -- ZIP CODE IS ELIGIBLE. WE ARE TRYING TO -- I THINK YOU'RE REFERENCING THE PRESS RELEASE. WE'RE TRYING TO CONCENTRATE OUR EFFORTS ON POCKETS OF POVERTY IN THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE WHICH IS A FEDERAL DESIGNATION OF VARIOUS AREAS. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: OKAY. WHAT WAS THE MOTIVATION -- MADAM PRESIDENT, WHAT WAS THE MOTIVATION TO BRING THE PROGRAM BACK? >> JUST THE SUCCESS OF THE FIRST ITERATION. WE PROVIDED A SURVEY TO ALL OF THE PARTICIPANTS. ABOUT 50 PARTICIPANTS OF 83 RESPONDED TO THE SURVEY. 100% POSITIVE FEEDBACK. LOTS OF REALLY POSITIVE TESTIMONYIALS. I ALSO THINK IF YOU LOOK AT THE PHILOSOPHICAL UNDERPINNINGS OF THE PROGRAM WE BELIEVE OUR MICRO AND SMALL BUSINESSES AND MOP AND MOP SHOPS ARE THE BACK BACKBONE OF OUR ECONOMY. AND THE SMALL BUSINESS OFFICE IS VERY GOOD AND DILIGENT IN PROVIDING TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE TRAINING, SEMINARS, THIS IS ANOTHER WAY OF SUPPORTING THOSE BUSINESSES THROUGH A TANGIBLE THING. YOU A WINDOW BROKEN, WE'LL HELP PAY FOR THE DAMAGE YOU EXPERIENCED. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: SOUNDS GREAT. MADAM PRESIDENT, I'M SORRY, THIS CAME TO MY HEAD. I PROMISE IT'S MY LAST. HOW DID YOU GET -- HOW DID WE GET OUT OF THE ANTI-DONATION CLAUSE? WE MOVED MONEY FROM PUBLIC SAFETY TO WHAT APPLICATION? >> I'M GOING TO MISUSE A TERM THAT YOU'RE VERY FAMILIAR WITH, BUT I'M GOING TO BACK PEDAL FROM IT. I THINK IT'S THE NOTION OF THE BROKEN WINDOWS THEORY, BUT WITH LIGHT. THIS IDEA THAT IF WE CAN ENSURE THAT OUR NEIGHBORHOODS ARE CLEAN, INTACT, THERE'S SOME EVIDENCE TO SHOW THAT THERE WILL BE FEWER INCIDENTS OF VANDALISM. SO, OUR CITY ATTORNEY PROVIDED AN OPINION TO STATE THAT THIS REALLY IS A PUBLIC SAFETY INITIATIVE. IT IS A PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, BUT REALLY AT THE CORE OF WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE IS MAKING OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, OUR COMMUNITIES SAFER BY PROVIDING THE KIND OF RESOURCES THAT IN TERMS OF BROKEN WINDOW WE ARE FIXING THOSE THAT WOULD OTHERWISE SIGNAL THAT THIS IS A PLACE THAT THERE'S LACK OF CARE. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: POCKET OF POVERTY. >>COUN. BASSAN: MS. KEEFE MIGHT HAVE SOMETHING TO ADD. >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT. THE DIRECTOR DID COVER IT VERY WELL. THE INTENT OF THE PROGRAM IS TO REDUCE BLIGHT WHICH DOES HELP REDUCE CRIME OVERALL. AND ALTHOUGH THERE IS A PRIVATE BUSINESS THERE'S A BENEFIT TO THE CITY. THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF THE PROGRAM. WE DID INCLUDE THE SURVEY AND IN ORDER TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS ON STANDARDS WHICH WILL ALSO HELP REDUCE CRIME IN THE CITY. WE HAVE THE PROPERTY OWNERS AGREE TO THE SURVEY AND AGREE TO MAKING THE CHANGES. THERE'S AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE PARTIES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: THANK YOU, MS. KEEFE. YOU WENT ON AN AGREEMENT THAT SAID IF YOU TAKE OUR SURVEY AND GIVE YOU OPINIONS WE'LL PAY YOU FOR IT? >> YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: OKAY. THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. THANK YOU, DIRECTOR. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR BACA IS NEXT, BUT UNTIL THEN WE'LL GO TO COUNCILOR GROUT. >>COUN. GROUT: I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS. I THINK THIS IS TO -- IT'S ABOUT THE ALBUQUERQUE PROGRESS REPORT. EVERY OTHER YEAR THE INDICATORS PROGRESS COMMISSION PUBLISHED A PROGRESS REPORT. THE 2024 REPORT SHOULD HAVE COME OUT BY NOW. HAS THE BIANNUAL SURVEY BEEN COMPLETED? MADAM CAO. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, I'M SORRY I'M PULLING UP MY NOTES. I DIDN'T PRINT THEM. I APOLOGIZE. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, THE REPORT PROCESS WAS COMPLETED. HOWEVER WE HAVE BEEN HAVING DIFFICULTIES WITH THIS COMMISSION. THE COMMITTEE THAT DOES THE REVIEW TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS WHICH THE ORDINANCE INDICATES THEY WOULD FOLLOW HAS HAD DIFFICULTY MAKING QUORUM TO MEET. THEY WERE ABLE TO MAKE QUORUM THROUGH FILLING THE SEATS AND ENSURING WE HAD APPROPRIATE PARTICIPATION. IN JULY WHEN THE DRAFT WAS AVAILABLE FOR THEM TO REVIEW, THEY HAVE BEEN WORKING THROUGH THAT REPORT. THE 2024 REPORT DETERMINED THEY HAVE QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS AS TO HOW THEY CAN -- THE PROCESS WORKS FOR THEM TO INFORM THAT REVIEW AND ENSURE THAT IT IS THE INFORMATION THAT THEY -- THE QUESTIONS AND THE OUTCOMES CAN BE ANALYZED. MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE COMMISSION HAS ALSO BEEN PAYING ATTENTION TO CONCERNS RELATED TO HOW THEIR ORDINANCE IS WRITTEN AND IF IT MATCHES TO THE ACTUALITY OF HOW THEY'RE TRYING TO OPERATE AND LOOKING AT POSSIBILITIES OF REFINING THE ORDINANCE FOR THE IPC. THEY'RE CURRENTLY IN DISCUSSION WITH THE ORGANIZATION THAT CREATED THE DRAFT REPORT FOR THEM IN HOPES THEY CAN ASSIST BOTH IN THAT ORDINANCE LANGUAGE AND HOW THE QUESTIONS ARE WRITTEN AND THE ANALYSIS IS DONE. ALSO TO FINALIZE THEIR REVIEW IN DETERMINING HOW THEY WANT TO PUBLISH AND BRING THAT FORWARD TO US. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. HOW MANY PEOPLE SERVE ON THIS COMMISSION? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, I DON'T THINK I HAVE THAT INFORMATION IN FRONT OF ME AS TO THE CURRENT NUMBER. >>COUN. GROUT: HOW OFTEN DO THEY MEET? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR, I THINK IT IS MEANT TO BE A QUARTERLY MEETING. HOWEVER, WHEN THEY ARE WORKING ON THIS THEY MAY MEET MORE OFTEN TO MEET THROUGH THAT REPORT. >>COUN. GROUT: IF NOW THEY HAVE QUORUM, THEY HAVE SOME BUSINESS TO DO, THEY NEED TO MEET MORE OFTEN TO GET THE REPORT DONE SO IT'S TIMELY. WHEN CAN WE EXPECT IT TO COME OUT? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, WE ARE WORKING WITH THEM TO SUPPORT THEM AND KEEP THEM MOVING. AND SUPPORT THEM IN ASSURING THEY MAKE QUORUM. I DON'T HAVE AN ESTIMATE. BUT WE HAVE THE INTENT TO GET THAT FROM THEM SO WE HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHEN WE WOULD BE BRINGING THAT FORWARD. >>COUN. GROUT: WOULD THAT BE BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, I WILL ABSOLUTELY ENCOURAGE THAT IS WHAT WE WOULD LIKE AS WELL. >>COUN. GROUT: THE REASON I ASK IS THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY RELIES ON THIS REPORT TO MAKE THEIR PLANS. SO, IT IS AN IMPORTANT ONE THAT WE NEED. IT'S SIX MONTHS LATE. OR ALMOST SIX MONTHS LATE. WE LIKE TO BE ON TIME. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, WE ALL AGREE IT'S VERY VALUABLE. >>COUN. GROUT: RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THAT. MADAM PRESIDENT, I HAVE A FEW MORE QUESTIONS. THIS IS FOR AFR. >> MY UNDERSTANDING IS I'LL READ THE RESPONSE INTO THE RECORD. >>COUN. GROUT: WE USED TO GET MONTHLY REPORTS ON CALLS FOR SERVICE FROM AFR. I REALIZE THAT WE HAVEN'T SEEN ONE OF THOSE REPORTS SINCE OCTOBER OF LAST YEAR. THEY'RE VERY VALUABLE. LIKE WE DID -- WE GOT LOTS OF INFORMATION OUT OF THEM AND I THINK THEY HAVE BEEN MISSED. I WANTED TO KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO THEM. WHY HAVEN'T WE RECEIVED THEM? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT YOU AND -- YOU WERE ABLE TO HAVE COMMUNICATION WITH CHIEF JARAMILLO. BUT I WILL REFER TO THE BENEFIT OF THE REST OF COUNCIL SHARE WHAT SHE PROVIDED. THE FIREFIGHTER THAT WAS DOING THIS WORK -- THAT PUBLISHED THIS MONTHLY REPORT RETIRED. HE WAS ALSO THE SECONDARY PIO. THEY HAVE NOT BACKFILLED THAT POSITION TO PRIORITIZE FIELD STAFFING DURING THIS TIME. IN THE INTERIM, THE PIO HAS BEEN SHARING INFORMATION THAT MANY STATS ON SOCIAL MEDIA THAT GO INTO MONTHLY REPORT. THAT DATA IS STILL BEING COLLECTED AND IS AVAILABLE UPON REQUEST. ACTUALLY, THIS HAS BEEN REQUESTED BY COUNCILORS PERIODICALLY AS WELL. AFR IS GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS OF HIRING CIVILIAN POSITIONS. AND ONE OF THE DUTIES WILL BE TO PUBLISH THE MONTHLY REPORT. IN THEDITION THE THE MONTHLY REPORT WILL BE START BEING IN JANUARY OF 2026 AND COMING OUT MONTHLY. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. THESE REPORTS CAN HELP US WITH BUDGETS. TRYING TO PLAN FOR THE FUTURE AND SO FORTH. THEY'RE NOT JUST THINGS YOU GUYS PREPARE AND WE ASK FOR, THERE'S A GOOD REASON FOR THEM. THANK YOU. MY FINAL SET OF QUESTIONS, MADAM PRESIDENT, IS FOR OUR CITY CLERK. HI, MR. WATSON. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. P-25-7 PASSED IN CITY COUNCIL IN MARCH OF THIS YEAR. IT DID NOT GET PLACED ON THE BALLOT. CAN YOU -- THE NEWSPAPER SAID YOU WERE GOING TO REVIEW THE PROCESSES TO MAKE SURE IT DOESN'T HAPPEN AGAIN. I KNOW IT WAS AN ERROR, NOT INTENTIONAL. WHAT WAS THE RESULT OF THAT REVIEW? >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, I HAVE REVIEWED OUR PROCESS ABOUT LEGISLATION. I THINK I IDENTIFIED A WAY WHICH CONFIRMATION IS DIFFERENT FROM OTHER LEGISLATION. WITH OTHER LEGISLATION IT IMMEDIATELY APPEARS IN LE DPRBGS LEGISTAR. AND IT'S PUBLISHED IN LEGAL OR ONE OF THE OTHER ACTIONS TAKEN. I THINK RESOLUTION IS NOT APPARENT TO NECESSARILY KNOW -- [ INAUDIBLE ]. THAT WAS THE ERROR THAT OCCURRED. MY INITIAL SOLUTION IS TO -- I AMENDED THE MEMORANDUM THAT I COME BACK TO COUNCIL TO REFLECT THE RESULTS OF WHAT MY OFFICE HAS DONE. BECAUSE AT PRESENT I SEND A MEMO BACK TO COUNCIL EVERY TIME IT PASSES LEGISLATION. AND HISTORICALLY THAT MEMORANDUM IS REFLECTIVE THAT WE RECEIVED THE LEGISLATION. AND GOING FORWARD THAT MEMO WILL REFLECT THE LEGISLATION, WHATEVER WE'VE DONE WITH IT. IT'S AN ORDINANCE THAT WE'VE ENACTED IT. IF IT'S A RESOLUTION THAT REQUIRES WE SEND LETTERS TO THE LEGISLATURE. IF IT'S A PROPOSITION IT WILL REFLECT THEY'VE BEEN SENT TO THE COUNTY. I THINK IF THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY WITH COUNCIL SERVICES TO ADD A FIELD TO LEGISTAR AND REFLECT AN OTHER TYPE ACTION TO UPDATE THAT AS WELL SO IT WILL BE PUBLICLY APPARENT IF THERE'S ANOTHER ACTION THAT IS REQUIRED. >>COUN. GROUT: VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. THIS QUESTION THAT DIDN'T MAKE IT ON THE BALLOT WAS IMPORTANT THAT ONLY THE VOTERS COULD ANSWER. NOW WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE WITH THIS PARTICULAR QUESTION? >> THAT'S A MIX OF A LEGAL, PROCEDURAL, AND CODIFICATION QUESTION. FOR MY PART, AFTER LOOKING INTO THIS, I DON'T BELIEVE THERE'S A WAY TO PUT THAT QUESTION ON A BALLOT AS CURRENTLY DRAFTED. I DEFER TO LEGAL AND COUNCIL SERVICES ON WHETHER THERE'S A WAY TO AMEND THAT. I DON'T KNOW THAT. OR IF IT NEEDS TO BE REPASSED IN THE FUTURE. ION -- I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER. >>COUN. GROUT: CAN IT GO ON THE RUNOFF BALLOT? >> COUNCILOR GROUT, IT CANNOT. >>COUN. GROUT: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU FOR THAT. >>COUN. BASSAN: THERE ARE MORE QUESTIONS FOR THE CLERK. DO YOU STILL HAVE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? >>COUN. GROUT: I'M GOOD. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR BACA, YOU'RE NEXTED. >>COUN. BACA: I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. MR. WATSON AND I HAVE SPOKEN NUMEROUS TIMES. I THINK THIS IS A PRETTY BIG MESS UP. ALTHOUGH IT HAPPENS PROBABLY IN THE LEAST CONSEQUENTIAL WAY POSSIBLE. NOT TOO MANY PEOPLE WERE WORRIED ABOUT THAT PARTICULAR BALLOT QUESTION. IF IT HAD BEEN A GO BOND OR A PERSON'S NAME THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN MUCH, MUCH BIGGER. THAT SAID, YEAH, DISAPPOINTED BUT WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO FIX THIS SO IT DOESN'T HAPPEN AGAIN. MAYBE WE NEED TO RUN SOMETHING FROM OUR SIDE POTENTIALLY. SO SOMETHING HAS TO COME FOR US BEFORE IT GETS TO THE CLERK FOR REVIEW. I JUST WANTED TO GET THAT OUT THERE. THANK YOU. >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR BACA, I DO APOLOGIZE. IT WAS AN ERROR. I THINK IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO REVIEW THE PROCESS. I'M HAPPY TO WORK WITH THE COUNCILORS ON THAT. I STAND FOR ANY PROCESS YOU SAY. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU, MR. WATSON. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS, COUNCILOR BACA? OKAY. NEXT IS COUNCILOR ROGERS. >>COUN. ROGERS: MY QUESTION IS FOR OUR CAO. IN FEBRUARY OF 2025, WE REACHED OUT REGARDING OUR AED MACHINE. SPECIFICALLY THE ONE I FOUND IN OUR OFFICE THAT WAS NOT FUNCTIONAL. AT THE TIME, WE WORKED WITH THE ADMINISTRATION AND WE WERE TOLD THE AI742, ADMINISTRATIVE INSTRUCTION ON HOW WE HANDLE AEDs WOULD BE UPDATED. I LOOKED ON THE WEBSITE AND IT STILL HAS NOT BEEN UPDATED. IT'S ACTUALLY THE LAST TIME THAT WAS UPDATED WAS 2017. I JUST WANTED TO FOLLOW UP ABOUT WHEN CAN OUR OFFICE EXPECT TO HAVE A PROPER WORKING AED MACHINE AND WHEN -- I ALSO NOTICED THAT CPR TRAINING WAS ROLLED OUT FOR ASKING EMPLOYEES IF THEY WANTED TO GET CPR TRAINING BUT NO AED WAS INCLUDED. WHEN WILL WE GET WORKING AED AND WHEN WILL EMPLOYEES BE TRAINED? >> MADAM PRESIDENT -- >>COUN. ROGERS: AN AED IS AUTOMATED EXTERNAL DEFIB RUILATE -- DEFIBILATER. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, THIS IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT. I'M NOT SURE WHY THE AI IS NOT PUBLISHED AND UPDATED. WE DID UPDATE IT TO ENSURE THAT METRO SECURITY WOULD BE TAKING PRIMARY ROLE IN MAINTENANCE AND OVERSIGHT OF THE AED THROUGHOUT CITY PROPERTY. AND IN PARTNERSHIP WITH DEPARTMENTS THAT HAVE OWNERSHIP OR OVERSIGHT ON A FACILITY. ADDITIONALLY, IN CITY HALL, THEY ARE INSTALLING TWO OPERATING AED'S IN PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE PLACES PER FLOOR SO WE CHANGED FROM THE PREVIOUS PRACTICE WHICH INCLUDED AEDs COULD BE PLACED WITHIN A DEPARTMENT AND KNOW HOW TO ACCESS IT. THE PUBLIC MAY NOT KNOW WHERE THAT IS AND BE ABLE TO ACCESS THAT. THE NEW PLAN IS FOR INSTALLATION IN PUBLIC LOCATION AND AS THEY ARE INSTALLED WE WILL BE PROVIDING TRAINING FOR EVERYONE ON EACH FLOOR AS TO WHERE THEY ARE AND HOW TO OPERATE THEM AND TO BE FULLY AWARE OF THEM AND ABLE TO USE THEM. INCLUDING SIGNAGE WITHIN THE FLOORS TO TELL THE PUBLIC WHICH DIRECTION THEY CAN FIND THOSE AEDs. ADDITIONALLY, AEDs ARE ON-SITE TODAY. AND WE DO HAVE THOSE IN A CYCLE OF REVIEW WHICH IS WHY METRO SECURITY IS THE DEPARTMENT THAT IS GOING TO BE OVERSEEING THE PROGRAM. IN THE PAST IT HAD BEEN FIRE AND OTHER DEPARTMENTS. METRO SECURITY PATROLS EVERY AREA OF THE CITY BUILDINGS AND THAT GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY TO INCLUDE THAT. THE NEW EQUIPMENT THEY WILL BE INSTALLING WILL HAVE THE MOST UP TO DATE EQUIPMENT THAT ALLOWS FOR REMOTE MONITORING OF THESE. METRO SECURITY WILL KNOW IF ANY OF THE DEVICES HAS A LOW BATTERY OR MAINTENANCE ISSUE OR ANY OTHER ISSUE. I WILL GET MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THE EXACT INSTALLATION DATES SINCE YOU AND I LAST SPOKE SO WE KNOW EACH FLOOR WILL BE INSTALLED AND WOULD BE MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. WE TALKED ABOUT THIS, BUT SINCE THEN I STILL HAVE NOT RECEIVED AN ANSWER ON WHEN. WHEN CAN I EXPECT A WORKING AED MACHINE? >> WE'RE TALKING WITH THE VENDOR TO KNOW EXACT INSTALLATION DATES. THEY'RE GOING TO GET ME THAT ANSWER SO WE CAN SHARE THAT WITH YOU ALL. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. WE'VE ALREADY -- DO WE HAVE A PURCHASE ORDER FOR THESE ALREADY? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR ROGERS YES. WE HAVE -- WE ARE FULLY ENGAGED WITH THE VENDOR FOR INSTALLATION. WE HAVE THE EQUIPMENT ORDERED AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS WE'RE WAITING TO HEAR INSTALLATION DATE. >>COUN. ROGERS: WHEN CAN I EXPECT TO HEAR BACK? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR ROGERS, I'LL GET YOU AN ANSWER TOMORROW ABOUT WHY WE DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER YET AND WHEN WE'LL HAVE THAT FOR YOU. >>COUN. ROGERS: OKAY. OUR TEAM HAS A QUOTE. WE'RE READY TO GO AND BUY OUR OWN IF WE DON'T HEAR FROM THE ADMINISTRATION BY FRIDAY ON WHEN WE WILL HAVE ONE AND WE'RE JUST GOING TO MOVE FORWARD AND PURCHASE THEM. IT IS NOT OKAY FOR US TO NOT HAVE A WORKING AED MACHINE ESPECIALLY WITH WHAT WE'VE DEALT WITH IN OUR OFFICE. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR ROGERS, MY UNDERSTANDING IS ONE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE DELIVERED TO COUNCIL SERVICES ON THE DAY YOU AND I SPOKE. I'M NOT SURE IF THAT OCCURRED. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT NO. THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING. THIS IS A HUGE ISSUE. IT'S A LIABILITY FOR THE CITY, FIRST OF ALL. IT'S A HUGE RISK FOR US TO NOT HAVE ADEQUATELY TRAINED FOLKS WITH THESE THINGS. AND FOR US TO PROTECT OUR EMPLOYEES, WE NEED TO HAVE THESE. AND THE PUBLIC THAT COULD POTENTIALLY BE IN OUR OFFICES. OUR STAFF HAS A QUOTE. WE'RE READY TO GO AND PURCHASE ONE. IF WE NEED TO WORK WITH THE ADMINISTRATION TO SPEED IT UP. FROM FEBRUARY TO NOW TO NOT HAVE THIS DONE AND READY TO GO IS NOT ACCEPTABLE. I WOULD LOVE TO GET AN ANSWER ON WHEN WE CAN RECEIVE ONE AND IF IT'S NOT WE'LL HAVE ONE INSTALLED BY FRIDAY -- WE'LL ORDER OUR OWN AND DO OUR OWN. WHO IS GOING TO DO DO THE TRAINING? AFR SAID NO THEY DID NOT WANT TO DO THIS EVEN THOUGH THE AI SAYS AFR IS USUALLY THE PEOPLE. WE HAVE A FIRE DEPARTMENT. THEY CHECK OUR FIRE EXTINGUISHERS. THE SAME TIME THEY CHECK THAT THEY COULD CHECK AED. I HAVE FAITH IN THE DIRECTOR. I'M COMPETENT HE CAN DO IT. THIS IS A LIABILITY AND RISK FOR THE CITY IF WE DON'T GET THIS. PLEASE LET'S MAKE IT A BIGGER PRIORITY AND GET THE AI UPDATED. CAN YOU SEND ME A COPY OF THE AI THAT IS ALREADY UPDATED SO WE CAN MAKE SURE WE FOLLOW THAT IN OUR OFFICE AS WELL? MY NEXT QUESTION IS AROUND VOUCHERS AND HHH. WE HAVE SEVERAL COUNCILORS THAT MET WITH A PROVIDER FOR VOUCHERS THAT SAYS THEY'RE NOW AT A POINT BECAUSE OF CITY FUNDING THAT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO DISPLACE FOLKS IF WE DON'T FIGURE SOMETHING OUT FOR THESE PARTICULAR VOUCHER HOLDERS. SO, I KNOW YOU PROBABLY CAN'T ANSWER NOW BECAUSE HHH -- I DON'T SEE ANYONE FROM HHH HERE. I WOULD LIKE TO GET SOME ANSWERS ON WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THOSE PARTICULAR VOUCHERS. >> COUNCILOR ROGERS, HAPPY TO LOOK INTO THE SPECIFIC SCENARIO. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I'LL SEND YOU THE INFORMATION WE RECEIVED FROM THE PROVIDER. I'M BEING VAGUE ON PURPOSE, PUBLIC, FOR A REASON. WE DON'T WANT THE PROVIDER TO -- WE WANT TO CREATE SAFETY FOR THE PROVIDER ALSO. I'M HAPPY TO SEND THAT TO YOU SO WE CAN FIGURE OUT WHAT'S GOING ON. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BASSAN: ANY OTHER QUESTION FOR THE ADMIN? ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE. WE'LL MOVE TO THE JOURNAL. I MOVE APPROVAL OF THE OCTOBER 20th JOURNAL. THERE'S A SECOND BY MADAM VICE PRESIDENT. ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? MADAM CLERK. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. BASSAN: ON COMMUNICATIONS AND INTRODUCTIONS. COUNCILOR GROUT. >>COUN. GROUT: MADAM PRESIDENT, I MOVE THAT THE RULES BE SUSPENDED FOR THE PURPOSE OF PLACING R-201 ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA. IT'S PRESERVING THE NAME JUNIPER FLATS. >>COUN. BASSAN: SECOND BY COUNCILOR CHAMPINE. MADAM CLERK. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR GROUT. >>COUN. GROUT: MADAM PRESIDENT, I MOVE THE RULES BE SUSPENDED FOR THE PURPOSE OF INTRODUCING R-205 AND REFERRING TO THE FINANCE AND GOVERNMENT OPERATIONS COMMITTEE. R-205 IS REQUIRING THE ALBUQUERQUE FIRE AND RESCUE DEPARTMENT, THE ALBUQUERQUE POLICE DEPARTMENT, AND THE ALBUQUERQUE COMMUNITY SAFETY DEPARTMENT TO PROVIDE QUARTERLY OPERATIONS REPORTS. >>COUN. BASSAN: THERE'S A SECOND BY COUNCILOR CHAMPINE. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILORS, ANY OTHER CHANGES TO THE LETTER? SEEING NONE. WHERE MOVE APPROVAL I MOVE APPROVAL OF THE LETTER OF INTRODUCTION. SECOND BY COUNCILOR CHAMPINE. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. BASSAN: MOVING TO REPORTS OF COMMITTEES. COUNCILOR CHAMPINE. SDMRCH MADAM PRESIDENT . >>COUN. CHAMPINE: THE FINANCE AND GOVERNMENT OPERATIONS MET ON OCTOBER 27, 2025. IN THE MATTER OF EC-467, EC-485, EC-495, AND 496 ME BE APPROVED. IN THE MATTER OF EC-477 APPROVED AND ACTED UPON IN THE MEETING WHICH IT IS REPORTED. IN THE MATTER OF OC-47 AND 48 RECEIPT BE NOTED. R-184, 196, AND 200 DO PASS. R-185 AND 187 DO PASS AS AMENDED. I MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE COMMITTEE REPORT. >>COUN. BASSAN: THERE'S A SECOND BY COUNCILOR GROUT. MADAM CLERK. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. BASSAN: MOVING TO DEFERRAL AND WITHDRAWALS. COUNCILOR GROUT. >>COUN. GROUT: MADAM PRESIDENT, O-99 IS AUTHORIZING THE ISSUANCE AND SALE OF THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE, NEW MEXICO GROSS RECEIPT TAX REVENUE BOND IN TWO SERIES IN AGGREGATE PRINCIPLE AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $47 MILLION GROSS RECEIPTS TAX PROJECT REVENUE IMPROVEMENT REVENUE BOND JUNIPER FLATS PROJECT SERIES 2025A IN THE MAXIMUM PRINCIPLE AMOUNT OF $18 MILLION AND TO THE GROSS RECEIPTS TAX GROSS REFUND BOND 2025B IN THE MAXIMUM PRINCIPLE AMOUNT OF $25 MILLION. I MOVE DEFERRAL TO NOVEMBER 17th. >>COUN. BASSAN: SECOND BY MADAM VICE PRESIDENT. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. BASSAN: MOVING TO DEFERRALS AND WITHDRAWAL FROM FINAL ACTION. AMENDING THE CITY COUNCIL RULES OF PROCEDURE ARTICLE ONE SECTION EIGHT REGARDING ADDRESSING MEETINGS AND ARTICLE THREE, I MOVE WITHDRAWAL. SECOND BY COUNCILOR GROUT. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILORS, ARE THERE ANY OTHER DEFERRALS OR WITHDRAWALS AT THIS TIME? MOVE TO THE CONSENT AGENDA. COUNCILOR CHAMPINE. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES, MADAM PRESIDENT, I WOULD LIKE TO PULL ITEM E, EC519 OFF THE CONSENT AGENDA. IT'S THE MAYOR'S RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE AND AUTHORIZE THE CONTRACT AMENDMENT OF LOTUS ENGINEERING AND SUSTAINABILITY LLC. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR CHAMPINE, WE'LL PULL THAT. DO YOU HAVE ANOTHER ONE? >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. IT'S SIBLING BILL OF EC520 OFF CONSENT AGENDA. MAYOR'S RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE AND AUTHORIZE THE CONTRACT AGREEMENT OF MORROW GREEDEN MILLER DBA PLANNED COLLABORATION. >>COUN. BASSAN: ANY OTHER CHANGES TO THE CONSENT AGENDA? SEEING NONE. FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS ON CONSENT AGENDA BEING APPOINTED ON A BOARD OR COMMISSION, THANK YOU FOR YOUR WILLINGNESS TO SERVE. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. BASSAN: MOVING BACK TO EC-519. COUNCILOR CHAMPINE. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I REALLY HAVE A QUESTION. WHEN I READ THIS -- I READ THAT IT WAS A FOUR-COUNTY INPUT. THIS WAS A PROGRAM -- PLEASE DON'T GET ME WRONG. I LIKE THE IDEA OF THE PROGRAM. BUT IT WAS A -- I'M CURIOUS IF WE'RE WORKING WITH FOUR OTHER COUNTIES AND THIS IS A GRANT AND THE MONEY IS BEING FUNNELED FOR THE CITY ARE WE ALLOWED TO USE CITY MONEY TO GIVE IT AWAY TO DIFFERENT COUNTIES? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE, OUR SUSTAINABILITY OFFICER THAT KNOWS THIS VERY WELL IS WALKING DOWN THE HALL TO GET HERE TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. I DON'T WANT -- I'M NOT SURE WHY SHE'S NOT HERE. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: MADAM PRESIDENT, I THINK 520 IS SIB LLG -- SIBLING BILL. THE QUESTION WOULD BE ONE AND THE SAME. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE, ANN SIMON, OUR SUSTAINABILITY OFFICER CAN SPEAK TO BOTH ITEMS. I THINK THE QUESTION IS SPECIFICALLY ABOUT OUR PARTNERSHIP WITH OUR COUNTYIES -- COUNTIES AND HOW THE FUNDING GOES FROM US TO THEM. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: WHEN I READ IT, I WAS CONFUSED. WE APPLIED FOR A GRANT, AND WE HAVE A BETTER CHANCE OF GETTING THE GRANT IF WE INCORPORATE THE OTHER COUNTIES AND SAY THE GROUP OF US WANT TO DO THIS. THAT IMPROVES OUR CHANCE AT GETTING THE GRANT. I'M CURIOUS IF IT'S AWARDED TO THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE FOR TREES AND TREE PLANTING BUT WE'RE GOING TO SANDOVAL COUNTY AND SPEND ALBUQUERQUE CITY MONEY TO DO WORK IN SANDOVAL COUNTY, HOW DOES THAT WORK? >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MADAM CHAIR, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE. I'M SORRY. I RAN DOWN. YES, THE ORIGINAL GRANT THAT WE ARE PIGGY BACKING THIS ON TO IS A REGIONAL FOUR-COUNTY GRANT. IT IS A CLIMATE ACTION PLANNING GRANT THAT WILL APPLY TO SANDOVAL, VALENCIA AND TORRANCE AND BERNALILLO COUNTY. THE USDA FOREST GRANT IS SPECIFICALLY FOR THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE. WE ARE ASKING FOR INPUT BECAUSE ALL OF THESE TREE PLANTING INITIATIVES HELP OUR GREENHOUSE GAS REDUCTION GOALS. IT JUST AFFECTS THE ENTIRE REGION. CLIMATE ACTION IS REALLY A REGIONAL ISSUE. SO, WE DID ALLOW THE OTHER COUNTIES TO WEIGH IN, BUT THIS TREE PLANTING INITIATIVE IS FOR THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: OKAY. SO THE -- AGAIN, DON'T GET ME WRONG, I AGREE WITH THE PROGRAM. ABOUT TWO WEEKS AGO I PLANTED TREES WITH NEW MEXICO TREE. IT WAS GREAT. WE NEED IT. KNOWING THAT 85% OF THE TREES ARE ON PRIVATE PROPERTY THAT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE PLENTY OF THEM. NONE OF THE TREES WE'RE GETTING IN THIS GRANT ARE GOING TO OTHER COUNTIES? THE REASON I ASK THAT IS CONSTITUENTS ASK WHY IS OUR MONEY OR STUFF GOING THROUGH OUR CITY BENEFITING OTHER COUNTIES. I WANT TO GIVE THEM THE RIGHT ANSWER AND CLARIFICATION OF WHY WE DO IT. >> THANK YOU. MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE, I DON'T BELIEVE THERE'S ANY TAXPAYER DOLLARS FROM THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE. THAT'S ONE THING. THIS IS A $5 MILLION GRANT FROM USDA FOR US. WHETHER OR NOT THE TREES ARE PLANTED OUTSIDE THE CITY, AS FAR AS I KNOW, THEY WILL NOT BE PLANTED OUTSIDE THE CITY. IN FACT, ONE OF THE REASONS WE'RE BRINGING IN LOTUS IS TO PROVIDE VULNERABILITY ASSESSMENT SO THAT WE MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE HITTING THOSE COMMUNITIES THAT REALLY NEED THE TREE CANOPY WHERE WE INCREASE IN THE HEAT ISLAND EFFECT. AND THOSE ARE CITY AREAS. THOSE ARE URBAN AREAS WITH LOTS OF ASPHALT. PLACES WHERE WE'VE SEEN TREES DECLINE. AND IT'S REALLY AN ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE ISSUE. WE'RE TRYING TO GET THE TREES IN THE PLACES WHERE PEOPLE CAN BENEFIT FROM THEM THE MOST. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: MADAM PRESIDENT, THAT'S ONE THING I DID LEARN WHEN WE'RE PUSHING FOR WATER CONSERVANCY IS WHEN YOU XERISCAPE YOUR FRONT YARD IT INCREASES THE TEMPERATURE BY FIVE DEGREES. AND YOU TURN ON YOUR ACs MORE OF IT'S AN INTERESTING CYCLE OF LIFE. THAT ANSWERS MY QUESTIONS. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR, IF YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION, THERE'S ANOTHER QUESTION AS WELL. YOU NEED TO MAKE A MOTION FOR EC-519. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE 519. >>COUN. BASSAN: SECOND BY COUNCILOR GROUT. COUNCILOR ROGERS, YOU HAD A QUESTION? >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. IS THIS THE GRANT TIED TO JUSTICE 40 BY THE USDA? WE WERE WORKING ON SOMETHING LIKE THIS IN EQUITY AND INCLUSION WHEN I WAS THERE. IT WAS LONGTIME OUT. IT WAS USDA TIED TO JUSTICE 40. I'M WONDERING IF THIS IS THE CULMINATION OF THAT WORK. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR ROGERS I WASN'T THERE WHEN THIS GRANT WAS FIRST -- WHEN WE FIRST APPLIED FOR THE GRANT. HOWEVER IF IT WAS APPLIED FOR DURING THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION, ALL FEDERAL GRANTS DID HAVE TO ABIDE BY JUSTICE 40 PRINCIPLES. I ASSUME THAT IS THE CASE. THOSE PRINCIPLES DO NOT APPLY ANY LONGER FOR FEDERAL GRANTS. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. THAT'S EXACTLY WHERE I WAS GOING. IS THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE GOING TO CHANGE COURSE, EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT REQUIRED? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR ROGERS, THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. WE ARE STANDING FIRM WITH OUR JUSTICE 40 OVERSIGHT COORDINATING COMMITTEE. WE WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH THAT COMMITTEE ON BOTH THE PPRG GRANT WHICH IS THE REGIONAL GRANT AND WE'LL WORK WITH THIS GRANT. THIS IS ONE OF THE REASONS WE'RE PIGGY BACKING BECAUSE WE'VE BUILT TRUST WITH THE COMMUNITY. WE HAVE A REALLY WONDERFUL COMMUNITY TASK FORCE THAT WAS APPOINTED BY THE JUSTICE 40 OVERSIGHT COORDINATING COMMITTEE. AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THAT GROUP. AND HAVE THAT GROUP ADVISE US ON THE BEST PLACES FOR THE TREE PLANTING. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. DOES THAT GROUP STILL MEET? I USED TO GET INFORMATION FROM THAT GROUP AND I HAVEN'T GOTTEN ANY INFORMATION ABOUT THAT GROUP. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR ROGERS, ARE YOU REFER TO THE COMMUNITY TASK FORCE OR THE JUSTICE 40 GROUP? >>COUN. ROGERS: BOTH. >> COMMUNITY TASK FORCE IS STILL IN PLACE. WE'RE STILL MEETING BECAUSE WE HAVE NOT FINISHED OUR COMPREHENSIVE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN WHICH IS DUE TO THE EPA ON DECEMBER 1st. THE JUSTICE 40 OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE IS DEFINITELY STILL IN PLACE. WE HAVE A NEW STAFF APPOINTED DIRECTOR. I KNOW THE CHAIR HAS HAD HEALTH ISSUES. WE'RE STILL ACTIVE AND IN TOUCH WITH THE MEMBERS OF THE OVERSIGHT COORDINATOR COMMITTEE. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. THIS CONTRACT FOR THIS IS FOR THEM TO DO THE SURVEY AND LOOK AT WHERE WE SHOULD PLANT THE TREES? >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR ROGERS YES. ESSENTIALLY, THAT'S THE CASE. IT'S TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE GRANT THAT HELPS US DO VULNERABILITY ASSESSMENTS. WE WILL LOOK AT WHERE WE HAVE HIGH HEAT AREAS. AND WHERE THE NEED IS. THEN THEY WILL HELP US WITH THE COMMUNITY OUTREACH. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I'M JUST INTERESTED IN PAYING FOR THE SERVICES. I WAS AT THE INFRASTRUCTURE CONFERENCE THAT'S HAPPENING RIGHT NOW AT THE CONVENTION CENTER. FIRST OF ALL I WAS SHOCKED THERE WAS NOT A LOT OF CITY EMPLOYEES AT THIS CONFERENCE. AND AT THAT CONFERENCE, THEY HAD SOUTH CENTRAL CLIMATE ADOPTION PLAN CENTER AND SOUTHWEST ENVIRONMENT FINANCE CENTER WHO HAD STATEWIDE DATA OFFERED FOR FREE TO MUNICIPALITIES THAT MAPPED OUT THE HEAT INDEX. I WONDER IF WE -- THIS IS A GRANT, SO THIS IS GOOD. WE'RE NOT PAYING, NECESSARILY, FOR THE SERVICES. I WONDERED IF THERE'S SOME COLLABORATING WE CAN DO WITH FOLKS THAT ALREADY HAVE THE MAPS. THEY COULD PROBABLY TELL US EXACTLY WHERE THE TREES GO. I ALSO KNOW WE USE DISTRICT SIX HEAVILY IN THAT GRANT. THE ORIGINAL GRANT IN OEI WE USE DISTRICT SIX A LOT BECAUSE OF THE INHEAT INDEX OF MY DISTRICT. I WOULD LOVE TO SEE WHERE THE PLANTS ARE DISTRICTED BECAUSE MY DISTRICT IS USED HEAVILY TO GET THE GRANT, SO THE TREES SHOULD GO WHERE YOU SAID, NOT YOU, BUT THE DEPARTMENT THAT SAID WHEN THEY APPLIED FOR THE GRANT. WE HAD THAT DATA TO APPLY FOR THE GRANT. I'M HOPING THAT CAN BE USED BECAUSE WE KNOW WHERE THE TREE SHOULD BE. I'M ALL FOR TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE. I THINK THE COMMUNITY HAS BEEN SCREAMING ABOUT THIS, ESPECIALLY WE'RE HAVING THE SAME CONVERSATION WITH THE STATE FAIR, TID, AND ALL THE REDEVELOPMENT AND THE REIMAGINING OF THE STATE FAIR. THE GOVERNOR HAD A WHOLE BUNCH OF HEAT INDEX DATA THAT SHE SHARED WITH THAT PROVIDER. SO, JUST KNOW WE HAVE A PLETHORA OF INFORMATION. LET'S JUST GET THE TREES IN. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILORS, WE ARE ON EC-519. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR CHAMPINE, YOU PULLED IT OFF CONSENT. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: I MAKE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL. >>COUN. BASSAN: MOTION FOR APPROVAL AND SECOND BY COUNCILOR BACA. ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THIS ONE? [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. BASSAN: MOVING TO ANNOUNCEMENTS. COUNCILOR CHAMPINE. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. THERE WILL BE A FINANCE AND GOVERNMENT OPERATIONS MEETING ON MONDAY, NOVEMBER 10th AT 5:00 P.M. IN THE -- I DON'T THINK THERE'S GOING TO BE A MEETING. IS THERE? I'M CONFUSED. THERE WILL BE A FINANCE AND GOVERNMENT OPERATIONS COMMITTEE MEETING ON MONDAY, NOVEMBER 10th AT 5:00 IN THE VINCENT E. GRIEGO CHAMBERS, BASEMENT LEVEL OF THE ALBUQUERQUE GOVERNMENT CENTER. THIS WILL BE A HYBRID MEETING. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THERE WILL BE A LAND USE PLANNING AND ZONING MEATING ON WEDNESDAY NOVEMBER 12th, HERE IN THE CHAMBERS. HYBRID MEETING. >>COUN. BASSAN: NO FINANCIAL INSTRUMENTS. MOVING TO GENERAL PUBLIC. MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC CAN PROVIDE LIVE PUBLIC COMMENT TO THE COUNCIL IN PERSON OR VIRTUALLY IF THEY SIGNED UP PER THE INSTRUCTIONS ON THE AGENDA AND WEBSITE. THE PUBLIC COMMENT GROUND RULES ARE EACH PARTICIPANT WILL HAVE TWO MINUTES TO PRESENT THIS EVENING. COMMENTS ARE TO BE ADDRESSED TO THE COUNCILORS ONLY THROUGH THE COUNCIL PRESIDENT AND ANY DISRUPTIVE CONDUCT WILL RESULT IN REMOVAL FROM THE MEETING. THERE IS A TWO MINUTE TIME LIMIT AND THE BILL WILL RING TO INDICATE YOUR TIME IS UP. PLEASE CALL THE NAME OF THE FIRST SPEAKER. IF YOU'RE ON DECK, PLEASE START MAKING YOUR WAY TO THE FRONT. >> THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. FIRST SPEAKER IS FRANCESCO FOLLOWED BY ANAMI. >> IF YOU WANT TO BE THE TIP OF THE SPEAR OF LAW ENFORCEMENT, THEN YOU CAN'T BREAK THE LAWS. WHILE WRONGFULLY CLAIMING TO BE ABOVE THE LAW. YOU CAN'T TAKE AWAY COMMUNITY FROM OUR HEROES WITH A BADGE AND A GUN WHO MAKE SPLIT SECOND LIFE OR DEATH DECISIONS WHILE YOU SIT BEHIND A DESK WITH ALL THE TIME IN THE WORLD TO NOT BREAK THE LAWS. CLAIMING THAT THE LAWS DON'T APPLY TO YOU, GOD BLESS THE BOOTS ON THE GROUND. SWEAR TO UPHOLD THE CONSTITUTION AND THE LAWS OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND NEW MEXICO SO HELP YOU GOD. TOP ALBUQUERQUE LEADERSHIP AND WILLFUL INIVATION OF THE OATH OF OFFICE NOTICED SHE LEFT THE ROOM RIGHT NOW. INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO BREAKING THE LAW, TO COVER UP THAT LAWS WERE BROKEN WHILE HARBORING CRIMINALS FROM FEDERAL AUTHORITIES. IN VIOLATION OF, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, CITY POLICY. AND LOCAL STATE AND FEDERAL LAWS. WHICH FORBIDS SILENCE WHILE TURNING A BLIND EYE TO MALFESANCE IN THE MATTER OF MAYOR KELLER'S ILLEGAL LAW. I SUBMITTED TO EACH OF YOU A PACKET WITH MORE INFORMATION. I HAVE A PACKET FOR THE DIRECTOR OF COUNCIL SERVICES. THANK YOU. >> ANAMI FOLLOWED BY LEX. >> HI Y'ALL. WITH THE EXTENSION THAT THE GOVERNOR PUT ON SNAP BENEFITS, WE GOT AN EXTRA TEN DAYS BEFORE THE APOCALYPSE TAKES ONE MORE STEP FORWARD. WITH THAT, THERE'S GOING TO BE AN INCREASE IN TRAFFIC ACCIDENTS HOMICIDES THEFT PROPERTY DAMAGE, VIOLENT CRIME, NON-VIOLENT CRIME. BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS WHEN PEOPLE ARE HUNGRY. IF YOU WANT TO DEAL WITH THAT RATHER THAN HAVING A CRACKDOWN FROM THE POLICE, I SUGGEST PUTTING THINGS LIKE THE CONVENTION CENTER'S NEW CATERING COMPANY TO GOOD USE AND FEEDING PEOPLE. OR HAVING A PARTNERSHIP WITH CNM TO ALSO FEED PEOPLE. GETTING FOOD TO PEOPLE IS VERY BIG BECAUSE WE ALREADY HAVE PEOPLE STARVING TO DEATH. WE HAVE SINGLE MOTHERS SKIPPING MEALS SO THEIR KIDS CAN EAT. NOW THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE FEWER RESOURCES TO DO ANYTHING. IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT COMMENT ALONE IS NOT ENOUGH TO FORCE ACTION. TO GET THE ADMINISTRATION'S ATTENTION, DURING THE TIME BETWEEN NOW AND THE RUNOFF ELECTION THERE'S GOING TO BE AN INCREASE OF CRIME PREVENTED BY PROVIDING FOOD FOR PEOPLE. HOPEFULLY THE CITY CHOOSES TO DO SO. THANK YOU. >> LEX FOLLOW -- >>COUN. BASSAN: HANG ON ONE SECOND. COUNCILOR ROGERS. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU. I JUST WANTED TO RESPOND TO THINGS WE'RE DOING IN DISTRICT SIX. WE'RE WORKING -- TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE WE CAN PULL OTHER FUNDING FROM TO GET TO OUR SOCIAL SERVICES SO THEY CAN BEEF UP FOOD BOX PRODUCTION. WE'RE WORKING WITH CHILD CARE DEVELOPMENT CENTER AND DAYCARE AND SCHOOLS. WE'RE TRYING TO GET THEM TO DO MORE FOOD BOXES. GOOGLE DISTRICT SIX CABQ AND CLICK ON FOOD INSECURITY. WE'RE LISTING AS MANY RESOURCES WE CAN PUT THERE TO HELP. WE'RE GRASPING AT ALL THE STRAWS TO TRY TO GET MORE RESOURCES OUT FOR FOOD. PLEASE GO TO THAT SITE. CABQ DISTRICT SIX, CLICK ON PROJECT FOOD INSECURITY. THERE'S A MAP WHERE YOU CAN SEE WHERE IN OUR DISTRICT PEOPLE ARE FEEDING FOLKS, FOOD, MEALS, FOOD BOXES. AND RESTAURANTS THAT ADDED GIVING FREE MEALS TO KIDS. IT'S A RESOURCE, BUT WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT WHAT WE CAN DO AS A TEAM HERE FOR EMERGENCY FUNDING FOR FOOD. THANK YOU FOR RAISING THAT. DISTRICT SIX, WE'RE DEFINITELY TAKING THIS SERIOUSLY AND WORKING WITH EVERYONE WE CAN TO TRY TO GET MORE FOOD OUT THERE. THANK YOU FOR BRINGING IT UP. >> LEX FOLLOW BIDE BRICK. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCIL MEMBERS, I'D LIKE TO REMIND YOU THAT SOMETIME IN MARCH OF THIS YEAR THERE WAS A GENTLEMAN THAT WE ASSOCIATE WITH THAT WAS BIG ON THE FIRST AMENDMENT. WE'RE BIG ON THE SECOND AMENDMENT. WE'RE BIG ON HUMAN RIGHTS. WE UNDERSTAND THE CITY WAS PUT UNDER THE DOJ'S NOTICE WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WITH VARIOUS ISSUES SURROUNDING HUMAN RIGHTS. YOU FOLKS WERE PUT ON NOTICE IN MARCH OF THIS YEAR ABOUT THE USE OF SIRENS AND THE USE OF HORSES ON THE SIDEWALK. THERE WAS A TIME NOT TWO MEETINGS AGO WHERE IT SEEMED LIKE THAT HAD BEEN SOMEWHAT TAKEN CARE OF. IN FACT, THE HORSES WERE UTILIZED AT THE FAIR. LAST WEEK, I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO DOWNTOWN, 3rd STREET, AND THE POLICE ARE NOW SEEMING TO WANT TO USE SECURITY STAFF AND ALLOW THE SECURITY STAFF TO MOVE PEOPLE FROM THE SIDEWALK. ONE OF THE CITY OFFICIALS WERE MOVED ALONG TOO. IT TROUBLES ME THAT SOMEONE THAT HAS SIGNED AN OATH TO UPHOLD PEOPLE'S RIGHTS WANTS TO BE WILLY-NILLY AND GO ALONG BECAUSE POLICE OFFICERS ARE ASKING THEM TO CLEAR THE SIDEWALK. WHY ARE WE USING HORSES ON THE SIDEWALK? IT'S AGAINST THE APD POLICY. YES, THEY CAN CROSS AN INTERSECTION TO GET TO WHERE THEY HAVE TO GO. BUT THEY'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE MARCHING DOWN THE SIDEWALK MOVING PEOPLE. THAT'S CREATING MORE OF A PROBLEM THAN JUST ALLOWING THE PEOPLE TO COME OUT INTO THE EMPTY STREET AND GET THEIR MEAL AND SIT IN THEIR CAR AND GO HOME WHEN IT'S TIME TO GO HOME. >> BRICK FOLLOWED BY TAD. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILORS, YES, THE HORSE-MOUNTED UNITS DOWNTOWN. SOME OTHER THINGS, APD SEEMS TO REALLY NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT THEIR OATH IS. WHICH IS TO UPHOLD OUR RIGHTS. RIGHT ACROSS THE CHEST IT SAYS PRESS. SOMETIMES I DON'T WEAR THIS. IT REALLY SHOULDN'T MATTER IF I HAVE IT. I WENT DOWNTOWN. THE HORSES ARE UP ON THE SIDEWALK. YOU STILL HAVE THE CAR ON THE SIDEWALK WITH THE SIRENS BLARING. ALSO, PRIOR RESTRAINT. I HAVE MY CAMERA SET. FILMING A SCENE. I WALK OVER AWAY FROM THE CAMERA. I LOOK BACK, THERE'S A HUGE SPOTLIGHT OFF A VEHICLE FROM A POLICE OFFICER THAT'S JUST SHINED IT DIRECTLY INTO MY CAMERA. THAT'S GOING TO DAMAGE MY LENS. IT WILL DAMAGE MY EYE IF IT GOES INTO MY EYE. I WALK OVER AND TOOK THE CAMERA AND MOVED IT OVER. I SAW THE SERGEANT. I'M GOING TO TALK TO THE SERGEANT. SERGEANT, THE MAN MOVED HIS SPOTLIGHT INTO MY CAMERA. HE'S MOVING IT DIRECTLY INTO MY CAMERA WHERE I MOVED IT 20 FEET OVER. IT'S DAMAGING MY LENS. MY YAUB IS PRESS. THIS IS WHAT I DO. YOU GUYS HAVE A JOB TO DO. I HAVE A JOB TO DO. OFFICERS HAVE A JOB TO DO. LET'S WORK TOGETHER, SOLVE THESE ISSUES. PRIOR RESTRAINT, HORSES ON THE SIDEWALK, SIRENS BLARING. NOT A GOOD LOOK. AND GOING TO FIND YOU IN A LAWSUIT. >> TAD FOLLOWED BY MERVYN. >> THANK YOU, MY NAME IS TAD. SO MANY ISSUES. I LEFT OTHER ISSUES PUSHED ON THE SIDE. WHAT GOT ME -- WE WILL TALK ABOUT IT LATER. BUT TOOK ME 40 MINUTES TO GET FROM WYOMING AND COPPER HERE TO DOWNTOWN. AND I WAS LATE. I GOT HERE SHORTLY AFTER 8:00. NOW, ANOTHER ISSUE. HERE IS WE HAVE ALL THE SIDE ON THE WEST SIDE, THREE HANDICAPPED PARKING SPACES. I WANT TO BRING IT TO CITY ADMINISTRATION BECAUSE COUNCIL WON'T DO NOTHING. CITY EMPLOYEES TAKING OLD PARKING CARS IN THIS HANDICAP SPACES. TAKING ALL THESE HANDICAPPED SPACES. ALL DAY LONG. TOTAL DISRESPECT TO HANDICAPPED PEOPLE. FOR THESE PEOPLE WHO COME TO DO THEIR BUSINESS THEY NEEDED HANDICAPPED SPACE FOR 10, 15 MINUTES. BUT NOT ALL DAY. ELECTION. TEXAS PASSED THE LAW IN ORDER TO VOTE YOU HAVE TO BE U.S. CITIZEN. WHAT ABOUT NEW MEXICO? I WAS AT CITY, I ASK. HE SAID NO. WE CANNOT ASK IF YOU'RE LEGAL OR ILLEGAL. SAME THING GOES WITH ELECTION. >>COUN. BASSAN: YOUR TIME IS UP, SIR. >> MERVYN FOLLOWED BY VICTORIA. VICTORIA FOLLOWED BY COURTNEY. COURTNEY FOLLOWED BY LEO. >> THE PEOPLE'S FORUM. THEY'RE RIGHT OUTSIDE. COME TALK TO THE PEOPLE. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. >> LEO FOLLOWED BY MIGUEL. MIGUEL FOLLOWED BY NICOLE ON ZOOM. >> I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE MAYOR ELECTION. I DON'T KNOW MR. WHITE, BUT I DO KNOW MR. KELLER. HE WAS ON TV SAYING HE DID THIS AND HE DID THAT. THE BIO PARK ON CENTRAL AND THE BOXING GYM WAS DEVELOPED BACK IN THE 80s. WAY BEFORE KELLER EVEN SHOWED UP. THE ONLY THING THAT HE HAS DONE WAS HELP THE IMMIGRANTS FROM GETTING PICKED UP BY ICE. BUT THE OTHER THING THAT HE'S BEEN DOING IS THAT SCAM ON THE CAMERAS. THESE CAMERAS DO NOT DETECT PEOPLE IF THEY'RE UNDER THE INFLUENCE, IF THEY HAVE WARRANTS OR GETTING CHARGED FOR CARELESS AND RECKLESS DRIVING. AND ALSO PROPERTY AND HUMAN ENDANGERMENT. WE NEED MORE COPS. COME ON, STATE POLICE, WHY DON'T YOU COME ON DOWN AND CLEAN HOUSE? BECAUSE THESE POLICE OFFICERS AREN'T DOING A DARN THING FOR US. WE NEED NEW PEOPLE IN THE CITY AS MAYOR WE NEED NEW PEOPLE AS CITY COUNCILORS SO WE CAN GET THINGS DONE FOR US. WE GOT DIFFERENT RIGHTS THAN OTHER PEOPLE THAT WE WANT. AND WE NEED TO START LIVING THE WAY WE ARE SUPPOSED TO LIVE INSTEAD OF WONDERING WHO IS GOING TO RUN-OVER US. WE NEED MORE HELP. >> NICOLE ON ZOOM. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILORS, I'M FROM THE LIBRARY ADVISORY BOARD. WE HAD A PRETTY EXCITING ELECTION YESTERDAY. ELECTION DAY AND CIVIC PARTICIPATION MAKES ME MEAL GOOD -- FEEL GOOD ABOUT MY COMMUNITY. THE OVERWHELMING SUPPORT FOR THE LIBRARY BOND SHOWS THE LIBRARY IS AN IMPORTANT AND BELOVED PART OF THAT COMMUNITY. THE COMMUNITY NEEDS THE LIBRARY. THE LIBRARY SYSTEM NEEDS THE MAIN LIBRARY BRANCH WHERE ALL THE ADMINISTRATIVE FUNCTIONS ARE PERFORMED. AND THE MAIN LIBRARY BRANCH NEEDS A NEW H-VAC SYSTEM. THAT HEATER AND COOLER IS WEAVING ALONG AT 50 YEARS OF AGE. WE NEED TO REPLACE IT BEFORE IT COMPLETELY BREAKS AND FORCES A SHUTDOWN OF THE ENTIRE BRANCH AND BRINGS OPERATIONS TO A HALT. I APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT WE'VE GOTTEN FROM CITY, COUNTY, AND STATE LEGISLATORS. AND WE WILL KEEP WORKING TO GET COMMITMENTS FROM EVERYONE TO SUPPORT THIS VITAL COMMUNITY HUB. THANK YOU. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, I'M NOT FINDING JOE ON ZOOM. THAT CONCLUDES GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BASSAN: ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. WE'LL MOVE ON. WE HAVE NO APPROVALS THIS EVENING. LANDING ON FINAL ACTION. COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, O-98. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. O-98 AMENDING THE TRAFFIC CODE FOR PEDESTRIANS AND VULNERABLE USERS AND AMENDING THE AUTOMATED ENFORCEMENT TO DIRECT TO VISION ZERO TRAFFIC SAFETY INITIATIVES. I MOVE DO PASS. >>COUN. BASSAN: MOTION, AND SECOND BY COUNCILOR GROUT. COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN TO OPEN. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: WE'RE CLOSE TO VOTING ON THIS AT THE LAST MEETING AND HAD TO DEFER FOR TECH TECHNICALITY. THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE'VE UPDATED THE CODE IN 50 YEARS TO MAKE SURE WE'RE PROTECTING EVERYONE ON THE ROAD, NOT JUST THOSE THAT DRIVE. I HAVE A FEW AMENDMENTS. IF YOU WOULD LIKE FOR ME TO MOVE THOSE NOW? >>COUN. BASSAN: PLEASE DO. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. AMENDMENT A, ON PAGE FOUR, LINE SEVEN. WE'RE AMENDING THE DEFINITION OF PEDESTRIAN. WE'LL PUT THIS ON THE SCREEN. >>COUN. BASSAN: I SAID A, WE'LL CALL THIS AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE. WHILE THEY PULL THAT UP. YUP. OKAY. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE, WE ARE AMENDING THE DEFINITION OF PEDESTRIAN AND INSERTING IN TWO PLACES WITHIN THE BILL WHAT PERSONAL ASSISTIVE MOBILITY DEVICE IS. I WILL MOVE THE AMENDMENT AND EXPLAIN IT. >>COUN. BASSAN: MOTION AND SECOND BY COUNCILOR GROUT. COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. THIS IS REALLY TO MAKE SURE WE ARE COMPLYING WITH ADA. AND WE TOOK A LITTLE EXTRA TIME TO GET THIS ONE RIGHT BECAUSE WE NEEDED TO REACH OUT TO A LOT OF DISABILITY EXPERTS AND MAKE SURE WE GOT THIS ONE RIGHT AND EVERYONE AGREED ON IT NOW THIS IS THE CORRECT LANGUAGE TO ENSURE WE'RE NOT TAKING AWAY ANY RIGHTS OF ANYONE WHO NEEDS MOBILITY DEVICE. WE'RE ALSO KEEPING EVERYONE SAFE. I WOULD URGE SUPPORT. >>COUN. BASSAN: ANY QUESTIONS ON AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE? SEEING NONE. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: I MOVE FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO. THIS ONE IS ON PAGE 17, LINE SIX THROUGH 17. CHANGE THE DEFINITION FROM PROHIBITED PEDESTRIAN TO PROHIBITED VULNERABLE ROAD USER CROSSING. THIS GOES THROUGH A&B. WE'RE GOING TO SAY VULNERABLE ROAD USER SHALL NOT CROSS EXCEPT FOR CROSSWALKS, EXCEPT FOR eBIKES BIKES. VULNERABLE ROAD USERS EXCEPT FOR OPERATORS OF BICYCLES, eBIKES, AND DEVICES OPERATING UNDER THAT PROVISION SHOULD NOT CROSS UNUNMARKED, UNCONTROLLED UNSIGNED INTERSECTION. ONE OF THE NEXT TWO ADJACENT CROSSWALKS, TRAFFIC CONTROL SIGNALS PRESENT. I WILL MOVE THAT. >>COUN. BASSAN: MOTION AND SECOND BY COUNCILOR GROUT. COUNCILOR CHAMPINE. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: MADAM PRESIDENT, JUST A QUESTION FOR THE SPONSOR. WHY CROSS OFF SHALL AND PUT SHOULD? >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: MADAM PRESIDENT, THIS IS THE SECTION OF THE BILL THAT WE'VE HEARD A LOT OF ADVOCATES SAYING THEY HAD CONCERNS ABOUT. WE WORKED WITH BIKE ABQ TO COME UP WITH THIS PROPOSAL. WE'RE TRYING TO DISCOURAGE PEOPLE FROM CROSSING IN THE MIDDLE OF THE BLOCK, BUT WE'RE NOT SAYING SHALL NOT SO IT'S NOT CRIMINAL OFFENSE. THAT'S THE LANGUAGE CHOICE ON THIS. >>COUN. BASSAN: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN TO CLOSE. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: URGE YOUR SUPPORT. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: NO. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >> PASSES ON AN 8-1 VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: LET'S GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: IT'S FINE WITH ME. I BELIEVE THERE'S MORE AMENDMENTS THAT ARE NOT MINE. >>COUN. BASSAN: THERE'S NOT ANY MORE I KNOW OF ON THIS BILL. IS THERE ANY OTHER? LET'S GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT. >> THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. FIRST UP WE HAVE MELINDA FOLLOWED BY DIANA. >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCILOR BASSAN, COUNCIL MEMBERS. I HAVE BECOME A LOCAL FIXTURE. I WOULD LIKE TO START BY EXPRESSING GRATITUDE THAT THE MAYOR'S OFFICE AND COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN HEARD MY CONCERNS AND INVESTIGATED THE CODE. IF THIS CODE EXISTED IN ITS CURRENT FORM I BELIEVE CAY LUWOULD BE WITH ME TODAY. AND WE WOULD HAVE A BETTER DRIVING CULTURE AND WE WOULDN'T LEAD THE NATION WITH THE MOST PEDESTRIAN DEATHS. THIS WILL ELEVATE OUR CODE CREATING SAFER STREETS. I HOPE GOING FORWARD THERE'S PLANS IN PLACE TO REVIEW THE CODE THROUGH REVIEW PROCESS OR HAVING STANDING TRIGGERS FOR REVIEW SUCH AS NEW INFRASTRUCTURE THAT DOES NOT EXIST IN THE CODE. OUR REVIEW SHOULDN'T BE REACTIVE BECAUSE WE CAN'T LET ANOTHER 50 YEARS LAPSE AND PEOPLE LOSE LIVES AND HAVE NO PROTECTION. I REALLY HOPE FOR YOUR SUPPORT THAT THIS ORDINANCE GETS PASSED AND WE START CHANGING. THANK YOU. >> DIANA FOLLOWED BY TAD. >> GOOD EVENING, MADAM PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL. I'M MELINDA'S MOTHER, AND KAYLA'S GRANDMOTHER. SHE WAS KILLED BY A DRIVER ON JULY 22nd WHILE CROSSING ON HER BIKE AT THE CARLISLE INTERSECTION. THE DRIVER ADMITTED SHE DID NOT NOTICE THE FLASHING LIGHTS. SHE STRUCK AND KILLED HER. SHE WAS ONLY A FEW HOUSES AWAY FROM HELP. SHE NEVER MADE IT HOME THAT DAY. MY GRANDDAUGHTER HAD HER WHOLE LIFE AHEAD OF HER AND THAT WAS CUT SHORT. THE CURRENT LAW HAS -- CYCLESTS DON'T HAVE THE SAME PROTECTION AS PEDESTRIANSED UNDER THE ORDINANCE. THE DRIVER THAT BECAUSE CHARGED WITH SINGLE OFFENSE. THE ORDINANCE BEFORE YOU HAS BEEN REVIEWED AND UPDATED TO REFLECT THE CHANGES THAT OCCURRED IN THE LAST 50 YEARS. MOVING FORWARD THERE'S DRIVER ACCOUNTABILITY AND VULNERABLE ROAD USER PROTECTION. IN ADDITION, I BELIEVE THAT THERE WAS AND IS AN ASSUMPTION BY MYSELF AND SOME OF THE PUBLIC THAT YOU SLOW DOWN AND YIELD IN THE FACE OF YELLOW CAUTION LIGHTS. ALTHOUGH MY OBSERVATION PROVES MY WRONG. I'M ANGRY IT HAD TO BE THE DEATH OF MY GRANDDAUGHTER AND ADVOCACY OF MY DAUGHTER TO BRING THIS ISSUE TO LIGHT. I APPRECIATE THE COUNCIL HAS SEEN WHAT A SERIOUS PROBLEM THIS IS AND ADDRESSED THE ORDINANCE AND INFRASTRUCTURE CONCERNS TO PROTECT VULNERABLE ROAD USERS. IF MY DAUGHTER HAD KNOWN WHAT SHE KNOWS NOW, MY GRANDDAUGHTER WOULD NEVER BE PERMITTED TO USE CROSSING AND WOULD BE ALIVE. THIS REVEALED DEEP FLAWS IN THE LAW. I SUPPORT THE PROPOSED CHANGES TO THE ORDINANCE WHICH IS THE FOUNDATION AND STEP TOWARD THE PREVENTION OF FUTURE NEEDLESS DEATHS IN THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE. IN ADDITION MY HOPE IS THERE'S A PROACTIVE PROCESS TO REVIEW THE ORDINANCE IN THE FUTURE. MY GRANDDAUGHTER LOST HER LIFE AND MY FAMILY WILL STRUGGLE WITHOUT HER UNTIL THE END OF OUR LIFE. THANK YOU. >> TAD FOLLOWED BY EVA. >> THANK YOU. OKAY. AT ABOUT 10:30. I WAS HERE WITH BUSINESS. CARLISLE AND CENTRAL. I HAD TO GET TO MY HOUSE AND THEN GET READY TO GET HERE. GOING TO WYOMING, CENTRAL, WHEN I APPROACH SAN PEDRO, I NOTICED ALREADY -- ALL THE WAYS BACK TO LOUISIANA. I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH FARTHER. BECAUSE I KNOW THAT PEOPLE TAKING LOOKING FOR EXIT. CENTRAL, SOUTH, YOU CAN GO NORTH. BECAUSE THAT'S STATE PROPERTY. ANYWAY, HERE IS -- IT WAS PARKED CARS. HOMELESS PEOPLE THAT FIRST WENT SOUTH. I BELIEVE COCHITI. HOMELESS PEOPLE ALL OVER. ALL OVER TO EACH OTHER. HALFWAY FROM SAN PEDRO AND LOUISIANA. WELL, WHERE WE -- WHAT'S GOING ON? WHY DON'T YOU DO SOMETHING ABOUT? POLICE OFFICERS ALSO HARD TO GET BECAUSE THEY ARE BUSY WITH HOMELESS PEOPLE. THEY ARE SIMPLY DISCUSSING WHY BECAUSE YOU'RE TAKING LANES DOWN CENTRAL. AND OTHER STREETS TOO. >> EVA FOLLOWED BY SOMET. >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCILOR BASSAN COUNCILORS. I'M HERE TO SUPPORT AMENDING OF THE TRAFFIC CODE. AND HERE TO SUPPORT MY MOM AND MY SISTER. EVERYTHING THEY SAID EARLIER. OUR WHOLE FAMILY IS STRUGGLING WITH EVERYTHING GOING ON. IT'S GOOD TO SEE THERE'S CHANGING BEING MADE. I REALLY APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU ALL ARE DOING. HONESTLY, I DIDN'T KNOW A LOT OF THE ISSUES YOU HAD WITH THE VISION ZERO PROGRAM AND STUFF LIKE THAT. I HOPE THESE CHANGES PUT US ON THE TRACK TO ACTUALLY ACHIEVE THAT. THERE'S A LOT OF WORK WE HAVE TO DO IN THE CITY. IT'S NOT JUST CHANGING THE LAWS. IT'S THE CULTURE OF THE CITY HAS TO CHANGE AS FAR AS DRIVING AND PEOPLE BEING MORE ATTENTIVE AND CHANGING THE INFRASTRUCTURE. IT'S JUST HARD LOSING KAYLA. SHE WAS SO PRECPRECIOUS. THANK YOU. HAVE A GOOD NIGHT. SONET. >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCILORS. I WAS IN MARTINEZTOWN. IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD THERE ARE A TON OF SPEED BUMPS. WHICH I AM THANKFUL FOR AND WOULD LIKE TO ASK FOR SPEED BUMPS ON CARLISLE CLOSE TO BELLAMAR. THIS INTERSECTION AND THE ONE IN FRONT OF UNMH ON STANFORD AND LOMAS ARE PROBLEMATIC INTERSECTION. I WAS TOLD BECAUSE OF THE SPEED LIMIT THE SPEED BUMPS THERE WOULD MAKE IT DANGEROUS FOR DRIVERS. THE ENTIRE SPEED LIMITS PUTS PEOPLE AT RISK. I SUPPORT THE TRAFFIC CODE AND SIDE WALK ORDINANCE AND RESOLUTION TO IMPROVE SAFETY BECAUSE IT PROVIDES A FRAMEWORK TO ADDRESS THESE GAPS. I AM ASKING THE CITY TO EXTEND THE TRAFFIC-CALMING AND SPEED CONTROLS TO AREAS AROUND THESE ESTABLISHED CYCLING PATHS AND I'M VERY DISAPPOINTED THAT THE MAYOR HIMSELF SAID DURING PRESS CONFERENCES THAT THEY WERE AWARE THAT THIS WAS A DANGEROUS INTERSECTION AND YET WASN'T COMPELLED TO DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT UNTIL KAYLA'S LIFE WAS UNJUSTLY TAKEN AWAY. TO ADD INSULT TO INJURY, THERE'S NO CHARGES. NO ONE HAS BEEN HELD ACCOUNTABLE. WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, I APPRECIATE THE CITY'S EFFORTS NOW. BUT IT SEEMS TOO LITTLE, TOO LATE. I PRAY ALL OF OUR LITTLE LOVED ONES ARE SAFE DRIVING, WALKING, CYCLING ON THE STREETS OF OUR CITY. THANK YOU. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, THAT CONCLUDES COMMENT ON O-98. >>COUN. BASSAN: WE'RE ON O-98 AS AMENDED. ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN TO CLOSE. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I JUST WANT TO START WITH SAYING THAT -- I SAID THIS LAST TIME. I'LL SAY IT AGAIN. THIS IS REALLY FOR KAYLA. I WAS NEVER LUCKY ENOUGH TO MEET HER. I MET HER MOM. IF SHE'S ANYTHING LIKE HER MOM, SHE WAS AN INCREDIBLE YOUNG WOMAN. I'M VERY SORRY THAT THE FAMILY IS GOING THROUGH WHAT THEY'VE GONE THROUGH. I DO WANT TO SAY THIS LEGISLATION YOU'RE SEEING TONIGHT IS BECAUSE JUST DAYS AFTER HER DAUGHTER'S DEATH LINDA MONTOYA REACHED OUT TO ME TO SAY WHAT CAN WE DO TO MAKE THINGS BETTER FOR OTHER PEOPLE. THAT'S AN INCREDIBLE THING TO DO. I'M NOT SURE I WOULD HAVE BEEN UP YET. SHE WAS ALREADY WANTING A MEETING AND WANTING TO KNOW HOW TO MAKE IT BETTER FOR OTHERS. WE PULLED TOGETHER A WORKING GROUP. I WANT TO THANK ALL OF THE FOLKS IN THE WORKING GROUP INCLUDING SENATOR SEDILLO LOPEZ, BERGMAN, PARAJRON. ALL OF THE FOLKS THAT THOUGHT WHAT WE CAN DO AT THIS LEGISLATION AND ALL OF THE LEVELS WERE DISCUSSED. I'M PROUD OF THAT WORKING GROUP. I DEFINITELY AGREE. THIS IS TOO LATE. PUT IT'S TIME TO DO THIS. WE HAVE TO DO THIS FOR OTHERS. AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT MELINDA AND KAYLA WOULD HAVE WANTED. I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT WHEN OUR ORIGINAL TRAFFIC CODES WERE IN PLACE, THERE WEREN'T HAWK SIGNALS. WE HAVE TO UPDATE THIS AND SHOW HOW THEY WORK. I WANT TO POINT OUT THERE'S A HAWK SIGNAL GOING IN AT THE INTERSECTION WHERE THE ACCIDENT WAS. THAT IS IN PROGRESS. AND WE WILL DO MORE. WE'RE ADDING SEVEN IN THE NEXT YEAR. I HOPEFULLY WILL BE ABLE TO RAISE MONEY FOR ADDITIONAL ONES. IT ONLY WORKS IF THERE'S LEGISLATION BEHIND IT THAT SAYS IF YOU DON'T DO WHAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO DO YOU CAN GET IN TROUBLE. I THINK EVERYBODY DESERVES TO BE SAFE. NO MATTER HOW THEY GET AROUND TOWN. AND THAT'S THE AIM OF THIS LEGISLATION. I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. BASSAN: THE MOTION IS FOR O-98 AS AMENDED. BRIC [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. BASSAN: MOVING TO R-196. COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. TAKING MEASURES TO IMPROVE SAFETY FOR BIKES, PEDESTRIANS AND OTHER ROAD USERS. I MOVE DO PASS. THIS IS THE ACCOMPANYING PIECE OF LEGISLATION. THIS ONE SAYS WHILE WE JUST PASSED A REALLY IMPORTANT UPDATE TO THE TRAFFIC CODE, IT'S ONLY AS GOOD AS THE EDUCATION AND OUTREACH WE DO WITH THE COMMUNITY. SO THAT EVERYONE KNOWS ABOUT IT. THIS IS SAYING WE WILL HAVE A COMPREHENSIVE EDUCATION AND OUTREACH PROGRAM. AND WE'LL ALSO BE SURE THAT EVERYBODY DRIVING THE VEHICLE FOR THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE WILL ALSO RECEIVE THAT TRAINING. I THINK IT'S THE PERFECT ACOMPANIMENT AND COUNCILOR GROUT SAID IT LAST TIME BUT I'LL SAY IT THIS TIME. THIS IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN THE UPDATE TO THE TRAFFIC CODE. WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WHAT'S EXPECTED OF THEM IF THEY'RE DRIVING A VEHICLE OR IF THEY'RE ON BIKE OR ON FOOT. EVERYONE NEEDS TO KNOW THE RULES SO WE TO NOT CONTINUE TO BE NUMBER ONE IN THE NATION FOR TRAFFIC DEATHS. IT IS UNACCEPTABLE FOR OUR CITY. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILORS, THERE ARE A COUPLE OF AMENDMENTS. COUNCILOR GROUT, AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE MARKED A IN THE PACKET. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE. IT IS ON PAGE TWO, LINE 11, DELETE PARAGRAPH C OF SECTION TWO AND REPLACE IT WITH THE FOLLOWING. C, THE ADMINISTRATION BEGINNING JANUARY, 2026 SHALL MONTHLY PRESENT AT THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING ON THE PUBLIC EDUCATION CAMPAIGN'S PROGRESS, SCOPE, METHOD ACTION OUTCOMES. AND IF ADDITIONAL RESOURCES ARE REQUIRED, PRESENTATION SHALL OCCUR THROUGH THE TERM OF THE CAMPAIGN. THE REASON FOR THIS IS PROVIDING MONTHLY PRESENTATIONS AT THE COUNCIL MEETING ON PUBLIC EDUCATION CAMPAIGNS, CREATE ONE MORE CONDUIT. AND INFORMS THE CITY COUNCIL ON THE PROGRESS OF THE CAMPAIGN AND INFORMS THE ADMINISTRATION WITH THE OPPORTUNITY TO REQUEST ADDITIONAL RESOURCES IF NEEDED. I MOVE FOR THIS AMENDMENT. >>COUN. BASSAN: THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND BY COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN AND COUNCILOR CHAMPINE. ANY QUESTIONS ON AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE? COUNCILOR ROGERS. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. COULD WE JUST SWITCH THE MONTHLY AND -- >>COUN. BASSAN: I THINK THAT MIGHT BE A CLERICAL ERROR THAN ACTUALLY NEEDING TO CHANGE ANYTHING FURTHER. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU. I JUST WANTED IT TO READ CLEARLY. >>COUN. GROUT: SURE. >>COUN. BASSAN: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I HAVE A QUESTION. HOW LONG, IN READING THIS LEGISLATION, HOW LONG IS THE PUBLIC EDUCATION CAMPAIGN? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, LOOKING AT THE RESOLUTION IT DOESN'T SAY A SPECIFIC TERM. IT HAPPENS MONTHLY. IT DOES HAVE A REPORTING TIME OF 120 DAYS. AND IT DOES HAVE MONTHLY REPORT. YOU MIGHT DEFER TO THE SPONSOR WITH THE INTENT. HOWEVER, THESE CAMPAIGNS ARE KNOWN TO HAVE A LONG LIFE TO MAKE THEM EFFECTIVE. THEY CAN START WITH INTENT PERIOD, THEN AS TIME GOES ON, THERE'S NOTICING OF RE-EDUCATION NODED, THEY CAN REINSTITUTE SOME EDUCATION. EXAMPLE WOULD BE DWI AND SPEEDING CAMPAIGN. >>COUN. BASSAN: I'M GOING TO ASK THE COUNCILOR, BUT I WANTED TO HEAR FROM THE DIRECTOR OF THE INTENT OF WHAT THE UNDERSTANDING IS FOR THE LENGTH OF THE CAMPAIGN. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, IN THE DEPARTMENT OF MUNICIPAL DEVELOPMENT AND CITY STRONGLY SUPPORT THE SENTIMENT THAT THE EDUCATIONAL CAMPAIGN IS MOST IMPORTANT PART ONCE WE GET THE LAW CHANGED. SO, I AGREE WITH MR. MENACUCCI THERE'S NO INTENT FOR AN END DATE. I THINK HONESTLY JUST LIKE CITY DRIVER TRAINING AND ALL THE TRAINING WE DO, IT SHOULD BE ONGOING AND WE SHOULD SEE WHAT WORKS AND WHAT DOESN'T WORK. I'M HAPPY TO PRESENT TO COUNCIL ON HOW IT'S GOING AND WHAT IMPROVEMENTS WE'RE SEEING. I TO NOT ENVISION AN END DATE AT ALL. AND I THINK WE SEE WHAT'S WORKING AND WHAT'S NOT. AND HOPEFULLY I WILL BE PRESENTING TO YOU ON THE GREATLY REDUCED NUMBER OF TRAFFIC ACCIDENTS THAT WE WILL BE SEEING THROUGH ALL OF THE CHANGES WE'RE DOING. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU. COUNCILOR, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE A DIFFERENT OPINION THAT YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE -- I'M GATHER ALL OF THE OPINIONS TO MAKE SURE IT'S CLEAR. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: I DEFINITELY AGREE THERE'S NO END DATE. ONE OF THE THINGS WE'LL UTILIZE FREE THINGS LIKE BILLBOARDS AND RADIO SPOTS AND PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENTS. WE'LL CONTINUE THAT FOR AS LONG AS WE NEED TO. HOPEFULLY FOREVER. THE INTENT WAS THE UP FRONT PART AND THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE ACTUAL OUTREACH CAMPAIGN WILL BE INTENSIVE AND WE WOULD DO A LOT OF THOSE THINGS. WE CAN CONTINUE IT INTO THE FUTURE USING OUR FREE PSA ACTIVITY SO IT'S NOT A GIANT HIT TO OUR BUDGET, BUT ALSO WE CONTINUE TO REMIND PEOPLE THAT WHEN YOU USE THE ROADS AND WHATEVER FORMAT YOU HAVE RESPONSIBILITY. >>COUN. BASSAN: TO BE CLEAR, IT SEEMS LIKE EVERYBODY AGREES. I HATE TO ALWAYS -- I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK ON EVERYBODY'S BEHALF. EVERYONE SAID THIS IS SUPER IMPORTANT TO HAVE THE EDUCATION CAMPAIGN. MY HEARTBURN COMES FROM THE IDEA WE HAVE COUNCIL RULES ON HOW MANY PRESENTATIONS ARE SET UP PER EACH COUNCIL AGENDA. IF WE START DICTATING MONTHLY REPORTS AND MONTHLY PRESENTATIONS FOR ONE THING, THEN THAT TO ME IS GOING TO START ADDING UP ON HOW IS THIS GOING TO LOOK FOR THE REST OF THE MONTH. HOW IS THIS GOING TO LOOK FOR THE OTHER PRESENTATIONS. AND MY CURIOSITY WAS IS THIS GOING TO BE 180-DAY CAMPAIGN, I CAN SEE, ALL RIGHT, LET'S SET THIS UP FOR SIX MONTHS. IF THIS IS GOING TO BE FOR PERPETUITY, I AGREE WE SHOULD USE ANY MEANS NECESSARY TO MAKE SURE THE PUBLIC IS AWARE. MAKE SURE THEY LEARN HOW. BUT I DON'T THINK I SUPPORT DOING IT MONTHLY. I DON'T KNOW IF AN EC-QUARTERLY WOULD WORK. YEN IF THE FIRST THREE MONTHS WE HAVE A MONTHLY PRESENTATION. BUT AFTER THAT, IT TURNS INTO AN EC QUARTERLY, WHICH ONE OF US CAN PULL. AND WE CAN DISCUSS FURTHER AT A COUNCIL MEETING. I REALLY HESITATE TO START PUTTING INTO LEGISLATION THAT ERR GOING TO HAVE MONTHLY REPORTS AND MONTHLY PRESENTATIONS ON THINGS BECAUSE I'M REALLY CONCERNED THAT'S GOING TO END UP HAVING AN UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCE FOR EVERYBODY. COUNCILOR GROUT. >>COUN. GROUT: MADAM PRESIDENT, I DO SHARE THAT. THANK YOU FOR THAT CONCERN. THAT MAKES SENSE TO ME. WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO ME IS WHILE THIS IS -- WE'RE TRYING TO GET THE EDUCATION OUT TO PEOPLE. WHILE IT'S BEING DEVELOPED, I THINK THAT -- LIKE WE GET ALL THESE WEEKLY REPORTS EVERY TWO WEEKS, BUT OUR PROCESS IS TO GET THE WORD OUT. SO, I DON'T WANT IT TO BE AN EC THAT WE JUST READ EVERY -- AND NOBODY ELSE SEES IT BECAUSE PEOPLE DON'T READ ECs LIKE WE DO. THE PURPOSE OF THIS IS TO GET THE WORD OUT AND EDUCATE THE PUBLIC. SO, WE COULD AMEND THIS AMENDMENT, BUT WHILE IT'S BEING IN DEVELOPMENT, I REALLY IT TO BE SHARED MONTHLY, WHICH WOULD BE EVERY OTHER COUNCIL MEETING. WE COULD ADJUST THIS TO BE FOR THE NEXT SIX MONTHS, IF WE WANT. AND LIKE YOU RECOMMEND, WE CAN CHANGE IT AND PULL IT OFF AN EC. HOW COULD WE CHANGE THAT? >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR GROUT, I THINK THAT I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO AMEND AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE TO R-196. AND TO SAY THAT IT SHALL READ, SHALL PRESENT MONTHLY AT THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING FOR THE FIRST 180 DAYS, BEGINNING JANUARY 2026. AND THEN QUARTERLY THROUGH THE FORM OF AN EC THEREAFTER. >>COUN. GROUT: SECOND. >>COUN. BASSAN: THERE'S A MOTION, AND SECOND BY COUNCILOR GROUT. I CAN TRY TO REPEAT THAT. FOR THE CLERK. OR FOR STAFF. WE'RE PRETTY CLOSE? YOU CAN ALWAYS WATCH IT AGAIN. AFTER JANUARY, 2026, SHALL PRESENT FOR THE FIRST 180 AND QUARTERLY IN THE FORM OF EC, THEREAFTER. SECONDED BY COUNCILOR GROUT. ANY QUESTIONS TO THE AMENDMENT TO AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE? [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILORS, WE'RE BACK ON AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? COUNCILOR ROGERS. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE FLIPPED THE SHALL AND THE MONTHLY. I DIDN'T SEE THAT REFLECTED. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR GROUT TO CLOSE ON AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE AS AMENDED. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. I JUST WOULD BE HEARTBROKEN -- I DON'T WANT THIS EVER TO HAPPEN TO ANYBODY. LIKE YOU SAID, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, THE MONTOYA FAMILY ARE VERY BRAVE. I WANT TO THANK YOU. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE KNOW THAT THERE ARE CHANGES TO THIS TRAFFIC CODE. AND WE NEED TO EDUCATE THEM. THAT IS MY GOAL. MAKE SURE THAT NO OTHER CHILDREN ARE DPRAND -- GRANDCHILDREN OR ADULTS GET HURT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR BRAVERY. I URGE YOUR SUPPORT ON THIS. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILORS, THE AMENDMENT IS AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE AS AMENDED. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. BASSAN: MOVING TO COUNCILOR GROUT, AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO. MARKED AS B IN YOUR PACKET. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO. THIS ONE IS TALKING ABOUT CROSSWALKS. STRIPED CROSSWALKS. SO, ON PAGE TWO, LINE 14, CHANGE SECTION THREE. TO READ FOUR SERVABILITY. AND AFTER LINE 13, INSERT A NEW SECTION AS FOLLOWS. 3, THE ADMINISTRATION SHALL SUBMIT FOR INTRODUCTION BY MAY 1st, 2026, AN EXECUTIVE COMMUNICATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL THAT PROVIDES A REPORT ON A NUMBER OF STRIPED CROSSWALKS IN THE CITY. THE NUMBER OF STRIPED CROSSWALKS THAT NEED RESTRIPING. AND THE REASON FOR THIS IS WE NEED TO START GETTING THOSE CROSSWALKS BETTER VISUALLY CONDITION. AND IT'S GOING TO TAKE SOME TIME. WHEN YOU DRIVE THROUGH THE CITY, YOU CAN SEE SOME CROSSWALKS THAT ARE HARD TO SEE. WE NEED TO MAKE SURE PEDESTRIANS AND ANYONE WALKING AND USING THEM NEED TO BE ABLE TO SEE AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE. BUT IT'S GOING TO TAKE SOME TIME. ALSO GETTING READY FOR THE BUDGET, SO WE NEED TO HAVE THOSE NUMBERS SO WE CAN BE PREPARING FOR THAT AS WELL. IT IS A PROCESS. AND I HOPE THIS ONE WILL PASS. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR CHAMPINE. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: MADAM PRESIDENT, THIS GOES ALONG WITH A QUESTION OR COMMENT I WAS GOING TO HAVE OVER THE OVERALL BILL. READING THIS, IT'S APPROPRIATE FOR NOW. I DON'T KNOW, COUNCILOR GROUT, IF THIS IS POSSIBLE TO ADD TO THIS. MY CONCERN IS SOMETHING THAT THE FAMILY SAID THAT THE OFFENDER OF THE ACCIDENT THAT SHE DIDN'T SEE THE LIGHTS FLASHING. NOT ONLY DO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE OUR RESPONSIBILITY AS THE STEWARDS OF THE CITY TO MAKE SURE THE CROSSWALKS ARE PAINTED, BUT THE FLASHING LIGHTS ARE FUNCTIONING. CLEAN CLEAR. IF THERE ARE HALOGEN LIGHTS COMPARED TO LED, IF THEY'RE OPERATIONAL. BECAUSE AS THEY ATTESTED TO, THE REASONING WAS I DIDN'T SEE IT. THAT SHOULDN'T BE AN EXCUSE. IT SHOULDN'T BE AN OPENING FOR AN EXCUSE ON THE PART OF US AS COUNCILORS AND AS A CITY TO SAY THAT WASN'T FUNCTIONING PROPERLY. I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN ADD ON TO THAT REPORT OF THE STATUS OF ALL THE FLASHING LIGHTS FOR BIKE PATHS AND MAKING SURE THEY'RE UP TO CODE OR WORKING AND CLEANED AND PREFERABLY LED SO IT IS BRIGHT. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR CHAMPINE, IS THAT A QUESTION? >>COUN. CHAMPINE: IT KIND OF IS. IT'S ASKING IF IT'S POSSIBLE TO ADD TO THE AMENDMENT BECAUSE OF THE ELECTRONIC SIDE OF IT AND THE PARTS OF THE CROSSWALK. >>COUN. BASSAN: IS THAT -- DIRECTOR TURNER IS BACK THERE. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE HAVE AN ANSWER TO CHANGE OUT FROM HALOGEN TO LED AND ALL THAT. AND MAKE SURE TO HAVE A MAINTENANCE PLAN? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE, WHENEVER WE LEARN OF A SIGNAL THAT'S NOT WORKING, A LIGHT THAT'S NOT WORKING. WE USE FLASHING BEACONS ALL AROUND THE CITY. AND WE HAVE THE SPEED RADAR MACHINES ALL AROUND THE CITY. AS SOON AS WE LEARN THAT ONE IS HAVING PROBLEMS, WE SEND SOMEONE OUT TO INVESTIGATE IT. UNFORTUNATELY, A LOT OF EQUIPMENT HAS LONG LEAD TIMES. WE'RE NOT ABLE TO SWITCH IT OUT AS QUICKLY AS WE LIKE. YES, WE ARE AWARE OF ALL OF OUR EQUIPMENT AROUND THE CITY. IT IS A MASSIVE AMOUNT. AND I AM WORRIED THAT IF WE ARE INVESTIGATING ALL OF IT ALL THE TIME IN A VERY SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME, THAT LIMITS THE TIME THAT MY TEAM HAS TO ACTUALLY IMPROVE SOME OF THE OTHER CROSSINGS AND DEAL WITH EMERGENCY KNOCKDOWN AND ALL OF THE OTHER THINGS WE'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR. I ABSOLUTELY THINK IT IS A FAIR QUESTION AND WE ALWAYS ARE LOOKING FOR FLASHING BEACONS THAT ARE NOT WORKING. AN AFFIRMATIVE INVENTORY WITHIN FIVE MONTHS IS REALLY GOING TO STRETCH OUR RESOURCES. SO, THAT IS JUST MY CONCERN. ALTHOUGH, I THINK AS THE CITY SHOULD HAVE AN INVENTORY OF ALL OF OUR FACILITIES, I JUST WANT TO SPEND -- IT'S JUST COMPRESSED TIME PERIOD. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: MADAM PRESIDENT, I BELIEVE THE AMENDMENT SAYS THEY WILL REPORT ON THE NUMBER OF CROSSWALKS AND THE COST THAT REQUIRE THE ONES THAT ARE NOT UP TO PAR. IT ISN'T FIXING THEM. IS THE FIVE-MONTH PERIOD JUST TO COUNT IMPOSSIBLE? I'M ASKING. FLASHING BEACONS. THE AMENDMENT STATES WE'RE ASKING TO COUNT THE CROSSWALKS. AND SAY, OKAY, WE HAVE 73,000 CROSSWALKS AND OF THE 73 -- I DON'T KNOW THE NUMBER. BUT OF THE 73,000 64 NEED TO BE REPAINTED. CAN WE DO THE SAME AND COUNT THE NUMBER OF BEACONS THAT ARE NOT FLASHING OR NOT LED OR NOT FIXED AND SAY WE HAVE 18,000 OF THEM, 16 OF THEM NEED TO BE FIXED? IS A FIVE-MONTH PERIOD UNREASONABLE TO SIMPLY DO AN INVENTORY CHECK? >>COUN. BASSAN: DIRECTOR. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE, IF WE ASSIGN A LOT OF RESOURCES TO IT, YES WE CAN DO AN INVENTORY CHECK WITHIN THAT TIME PERIOD. I'M JUST CONCERNED ABOUT IT PULLING FROM THE OTHER TASKS THAT WE HAVE BEFORE US IN MUNICIPAL DEVELOPMENT. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: I UNDERSTAND. MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, WOULD YOU BE OPEN TO AMENDING YOUR AMENDMENT TO ADD IN THE ELECTRONIC BEACONS AS A SIMPLE COUNT OF -- SIMPLE INVENTORY COUNT. HERE'S WHAT WE HAVE, AND HOW MANY BEACONS AND HOW MANY ARE HALOGEN COMPARED TO LED. HOW MANY NEED TO BE REPAIRED? >>COUN. BASSAN: WE'LL NEED A MOTION FROM ONE OF YOU. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ADD TO AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO, THE NUMBER OF BEACONS WITHIN THE CITY PURVIEW OR THE CITY -- WITHIN THE CITY. MOREOVER, IF THEY'RE LED, COMPARED TO HALOGEN. AND IN WORKING ORDER OR NEED REPAIR. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE, DURING THE DISCUSSION WE ACTUALLY PUT TOGETHER A POSSIBLE AMENDMENT. IT'S ON THE SCREEN. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO REVIEW THAT AND SEE IF IT CAPTURES WHAT YOU'RE HOPING TO ACCOMPLISH. I CAN READ IT OUT. THE REPORT WOULD INCLUDE THE STATUS OF THE CONDITION OF SIGNALS AT CROSSWALKS AND IMPROVEMENTS RECOMMENDED AND ESTIMATED COSTS. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: THAT READS PERFECTLY. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BASSAN: IT SEEMS AS THOUGH WE HAVE A MOTION TO AMEND AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO TO INCLUDE WHAT'S ON THE SCREEN AND WHAT WAS JUST READ. SECONDED BY COUNCILOR GROUT. ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE COUNCIL? COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I'M SORRY TO ASK DIRECTOR TURNER TO COME BACK DOWN. I DO HAVE A QUESTION. I THINK I HAVE THE ANSWER ON THIS BECAUSE I'VE BEEN SPEAKING WITH DIRECTOR TURNER DAILY. WHAT IS YOUR PRIORITY IN TERMS OF GETTING THE HAWK SIGNALS INSTALLED OR GETTING ANY OF THIS INSTALLED? WHAT ARE THE PRIORITY PROJECTS RIGHT NOW? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, I HAVE WITH ME OUR PLAN THAT YOU ALL PASSED UNANIMOUSLY ABOUT 3:00 IN THE MORNING LAST DECEMBER. IT HAS A LIST OF ALL THE VERY HIGH, HIGH, MEDIUM, PROJECTS THAT WE'RE PLANNING ON IN THE CITY. ON THAT LIST, WE ACTUALLY HAVE 257 CROSSINGS THAT NEED IMPROVEMENT, WHICH IS A MIX OF PEDESTRIAN-HYBRID BEACONS OR HAWKS. AND AS WELL AS GEOMETIC STRIPING WHICH IS STOP SIGNS AND SIGNALS AND OTHER CHEAPER IMPROVEMENTS LIKE THAT FOR LOWER TRAFFIC ROADS. WE HAVE A LIST OF ALL OF THE PRIORITY CROSSINGS. IT IS REALLY LONG. WE'RE WORKING ON IT NOW. AS -- WE HAVE A PLAN. AND WE PRIORITIZED ALL OF IT. I'M ALWAYS HAPPY AND HAVE OUR PLANNING MANAGER, AND WE'RE ALWAYS HAPPY TO TALK ABOUT SPECIFIC CROSSINGS YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT. THEY'RE PRIORITIZED BASED ON OUR NETWORK. OUR HIGH FATALITY AND SERIOUS INJURY NETWORK THAT DOCUMENTS FATALITIES AND CRASHES. AND ALSO BASED ON SORT OF TRYING TO DO ENTIRE TRAILS AS OPPOSED TO ISLAND CROSSINGS, SO WE GET MAXIMUM EFFICIENCY IN THE IMPROVEMENTS WE'RE MAKING. HIGH CORRIDORS THAT THERE'S A LOT OF TRAFFIC. TRANSIT CORRIDORS. WE HAVE A TON OF THINGS WE USE TO PRIORITIZE. I ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO LOOK AT THE LIST. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. IF I CAN FOLLOW UP -- I UNDERSTAND DMD LIKE EVERY CITY DEPARTMENT HAS A LIMITED NUMBER OF PEOPLE TO DO A LOT OF WORK. IT'S MY FEELING, BUT I WOULD LOVE HEAR FROM YOU, IF WE TAKE PEOPLE OFF OF GETTING THOSE HAWKS INSTALLED ON TO DOING AN INVENTORY, WILL THAT DELAY THE INSTALLATION OF THE SEVEN HAWKS WE PROMISED AT THE NEWS CONFERENCES AND TOLD THE BIKE ADVOCATES ARE COMING? IS IT GOING TO DELAY THOSE INSTALLATIONS? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, I'M JUST CONCERNED, AS YOU SAID, ABOUT STAFF CAPABILITIES WHEN WE ARE TRYING TO IMPLEMENT ALL OF THESE IMPROVEMENTS. I WAS TALKING TO MS. HERMENSON ABOUT HOW WE CAN DO THE INVENTORY THAT COUNCILOR CHAMPINE SUGGESTED. I WOULD LIKE TO SAY, YES, YOU KNOW ALL THAT ABOUT ME. WE'RE TRYING TO THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX ON HOW WE COULD ACHIEVE THAT INVENTORY. AGAIN, WE DON'T HAVE AN UNLIMITED NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES. I'M CONFIDENT IN OUR ABILITY TO THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX TO MEET WHATEVER DEMANDS ARE PUT ON US THROUGH THE ORDINANCE. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU. I WANT ALL OF THESE THINGS. ALL OF THEM TOMORROW. I WOULD LIKE EVERYTHING IMPROVED. BUT REALISTICALLY, I'M WORRIED THAT WE ARE PUTTING TOO MUCH TOO FAST ON DMD. AND WHAT I REALLY WANT IS HAWK SIGNALS INSTALLED SO WHAT WE SAW HAPPEN DOESN'T HAPPEN AGAIN. I WILL CLARIFY TO MY KNOWLEDGE, AND I'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS THE LAST COUPLE MONTHS, THERE'S NO INDICATION ANYWHERE THAT THERE'S A MALFUNCTIONING LIGHT OF ANY SORTS. PEOPLE ARE JUST NOT PAYING ATTENTION WHEN THEY DRIVE. THERE'S NO REASON TO BELIEVE THERE WAS ANY LIGHTS MALFUNCTIONING. I URGE US TO KEEP OUR EYE ON THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS RIGHT NOW. AND THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS GETTING HAWK SIGNALS IN WHERE WE NEED HAWK SIGNALS AND GETTING PRIME -- IMPROVEMENTS TO CROSSWALKS WHERE THEY NEED IMPROVEMENTS. >>COUN. GROUT: I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THAT REPORT THAT WE PASSED AT 3:00 A.M. LAST YEAR. DIRECTOR. THANK YOU. YOU'LL HAVE TO REFRESH MY MEMORY. DOES THE REPORT TELL US -- WE HAVE PRIORITIES, BUT DOES IT HAVE A TIMELINE? AND HOW ARE YOU DOING ON THE PRIORITIES? HOW FAR HAVE YOU GONE IN 11 MONTHS? WHAT HAVE YOU ACCOMPLISHED? HOW LONG WILL IT TAKE YOU TO ACCOMPLISH THE WHOLE LIST? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, WHAT THE PLAN DOES IS IT LABELS EVERYTHING WITH THE TIME FRAME OF IS IT PLAUSIBLE NEAR-TERM, LONG-TERM, OR IS IT LIKE WE CAN DO IT TOMORROW. SO, YOU CAN LOOK AT YOUR PROJECT AND SAY, PERHAPS THERE ARE RIGHT-OF-WAY ISSUES AND SOLVING THIS PROBLEM IS GOING TO REQUIRE YEARS OF LITIGATION WITH LANDOWNERS. WE DON'T -- SOME THINGS WE UNFORTUNATELY CANNOT CONTROL. NO, IT DOES NOT SAY IN NINE MONTHS WE'LL DO THIS. IT JUST PRIORITIZES AND SAYS COST ESTIMATE OF HOW MUCH IT WILL COST AND IS IT POSSIBLE IN THE NEAR-TERM OR LONG-TERM. AGAIN, IT'S ALL CONTINGENT ON FUNDING. AND I THINK THE ORDINANCE THAT YOU JUST PASSED IS DEDICATED. OUR AUTOMATED SPEED ENFORCEMENT FUNDING TO THE PLAN AND TO VISION ZERO. WE'RE VERY GRATEFUL FOR THAT. SO, THERE'S A LOT OF -- I GUESS FUNDING COMPLICATIONS INVOLVING THE DIFFERENT MEASURES THAT ARE PROVIDED. NO, THERE'S NO SPECIFIC THIS WILL BE DONE IN SIX MONTHS AND THIS WILL BE DONE IN NINE MONTHS. I'D BE HAPPY TO LIST WHERE WE ARE ON MANY OF THE THINGS. I KNOW BUENA VISTA BOULEVARD IS CALLED OUT IN HERE. WE'VE HAD SEVERAL WELL-ATTENDED SUPPORTIVE PUBLIC MEETINGS ABOUT THAT PROJECT OVER THE THE LAST FEW MONTHS. I THINK A COUPLE OF YOU WENT TO THE MEETINGS. I WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH AND GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON EACH INDIVIDUAL PROJECT. WE'RE MAKING PROGRESS ON THEM. >>COUN. GROUT: ONE FOLLOW UP. ARE ANY OF THE PROJECTS ON THE LIST DONE? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, NOT AWARE OF ANY BEING DONE. IT DOES HAVE THE IMPROVED CROSSING ON CARLISLE AT DELMAR WHICH WILL BE DONE IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS. >>COUN. GROUT: THAT'S ON THE LIST? >> YES, THAT IS ON THE LIST. AND IT'S UNDER CONSTRUCTION RIGHT NOW. >>COUN. GROUT: I'M REALLY GLAD THAT'S THE FIRST ONE BEING DONE ON THE LIST. A LITTLE TOO LATE. I'M GLAD IT'S BEING DONE. AND IT'S NOT YOUR FAULT. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BASSAN: DIRECTOR, I HAVE A QUESTION. ARE OUTSIDE CONTRACTORS GOING TO BE INSTALLING ANY OR ALL OR SOME HAWK LIGHTS? OR IS IT DMD STAFF? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, GREAT QUESTION. WE HAVE PARTNERSHIPS WITH OUTSIDE CONTRACTORS. WE HAVE STAFF WHO ARE THE ENGINEERS AND THE PROJECT MANAGERS AND THEY WORK HAND AND HAND WITH OUR OUTSIDE ENGINEERS AND WITH THE CONTRACTORS. IN ALBUQUERQUE, WE DO NOT HAVE AS MANY CONTRACTORS AS WE WOULD LIKE WORKING ON STRIPING AND ON SOME OF THESE SIGNAL ISSUES BECAUSE THERE'S ALWAYS LONG LEAD SOMETIMES AND SCHEDULING ISSUES WITH SOME OF THE PROJECTS. IT IS CITY STAFF AND OUTSIDE CONTRACTORS. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU. I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION, MORE ON THE LEGAL STANDPOINT OF THIS. I AGREE WITH COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN THAT I WANT ALL OF IT. IT MAKES SENSE. ALL OF THESE ARE GOOD THINGS. I'M GOING TO PREFACE MY QUESTION WITH I THINK BOTH THIS AMENDMENT AND THE AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT -- I WOULD PREFER TO SEE AN OBJECTIVE FOR THE CITY RATHER THAN IN THIS RESOLUTION. I THINK THAT TO FIND SOME KIND OF BALANCE BETWEEN HOW DO WE MAKE THIS REALLY HAPPEN BECAUSE IT'S SUPER IMPORTANT BUT ALSO NOT BIND US IN A CORNER WHEN WE HAVE OTHER THINGS TO DO WITHOUT COMPROMISING ADDITIONAL SAFETY HAZARDS. MY QUESTION FOR LEGAL, AND I'LL ASK IF WE SAID WE WANTED TO DO AN INVENTORY OF ALL OF THE DIFFERENT LIGHTING AND WHATEVER AND IF THEY'RE WORKING AND HAVE THAT IN A REPORT BY MAY, WHAT DOES THAT DO FOR LIABILITY? NOT THAT I'M SAYING WE SHOULDN'T WANT TO KNOW AND WE SHOULDN'T WANT TO FIX THINGS AND THEY SHOULDN'T MALFUNCTION IN THE FIRST PLACE. BUT IF WE PUT THEM IN A PUBLIC REPORT, WHAT IS THAT GOING TO DO FOR THE TIMELINE OF REPAIR IF WE CAN'T FIX SOMETHING AND WE KNOW IT'S BROKEN AND SOMETHING ELSE HAPPENS, WHAT DOES THAT DO FOR LIABILITY FOR THE CITY? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, THE REPORT THAT EXIST DOES CURRENTLY CONTAIN SOME OF THOSE INVENTORY PROVISION. THAT WAS ALREADY IN EXISTENCE. I THINK THERE ARE CERTAINLY SOME LIABILITY ISSUES THAT COULD ARISE NOW. IF WE CONTINUE TO INCLUDE THAT INFORMATION IN A REPORT. I THINK THAT'S A VALID QUESTION. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. ROLLENED, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD? >> YES, COUNCILOR BASSAN. KNOWLEDGE CAN ALWAYS INCREASE LIABILITY. SO, I DON'T WANT TO SAY THAT ANY -- WE DON'T WANT TO AVOID FINDING KNOWLEDGE JUST FOR THE SAKE OF AVOIDING LIABILITY. BUT WHEN IT COMES TO CITY AND MUNICIPAL LIABILITY AND GOVERNMENT LIABILITY KNOWLEDGE ISN'T ON ITS OWN WHAT SETS THE LIABILITIES. THERE IS THE CAPABILITY OF THE MUNICIPALITY TO ACT ON THAT KNOWLEDGE THAT MAKES A SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE. I WOULDN'T WANT TO SIT HERE AND FROM A LEGAL OPINION CAUTION AGAINST DOING THE WORK TO FIND OUT WHAT IS SAFE OR NOT SAFE OR WHAT NEEDS TO BE REPAIRED OR NOT REPAIRED. TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION DIRECTLY, ANY TIME THE CITY HAS KNOWLEDGE OF SOMETHING AND DOES NOT DO SOMETHING BASED ON THAT KNOWLEDGE IT DOES INCREASE THE LIABILITY. THAT'S NOT TO SAY THERE AREN'T DEFENSES OF THAT LIABILITY IF IT DOES COME UP. >>COUN. BASSAN: OKAY. AGAIN, I THINK THIS IS REALLY GOOD. BUT I WOULD PREFER TO SEE IT IN AN OBJECTIVE TO HAVE A GOAL WITHOUT BACKING US INTO A CORNER WITH TIMELINES THAT WE MIGHT SET OURSELVES UP TO FAIL. NOT BECAUSE OF ANYBODY TRYING TO DO SOMETHING WRONG OR -- JUST TRULY RESOURCES. THOSE ARE MY CONCERNS AND REASONS. AND SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT I HAD. COUNCILOR CHAMPINE, YOU HAD QUESTIONS? >>COUN. CHAMPINE: NO. I THINK YOUR TERM YOU SET IS A GOAL. I THINK THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY WITH COUNCILOR GROUT'S AMENDMENT. AS, HERE, LET'S DO THIS. IT'S ANNOUNCED WE REPAIR THINGS WHEN WE'RE NOTIFIED THEY'RE BROKEN. I WANT US AEBL TO -- ABLE TO PROACTIVELY GO AT IT. WE HAVE AN INVENTORY OF TREES IN OUR PARKS. THERE'S AN APP THAT THE PARKS LOOK AT THAT GOES THIS TREE HAS BEEN THERE FOR THIS MANY YEARS. WE NEED TO BE PROACTIVE AND KNOW OUR INVENTORY AND KNOW WHY OUR CROSSWALK IS TIMED. MAYBE THE FEAR OF THE MAY 1st TIMELINE IS SAYING IT'S PUTTING A CRUCIAL -- THE TIME CRUNCH IS TOO MUCH. I'M TRYING TO BE PROACTIVE, NOT TO SAY THAT SOMETHING IS BROKEN, BUT I DON'T WANT THE EXCUSE TO BE THERE. I DON'T WANT SOMEBODY TO SAY I DIDN'T SEE IT BECAUSE IT WAS DIRTY. WE LOST AN OFFICER BECAUSE HE HIT THE BACK OF THE STREET SWEEPER THAT THE LIGHTS WEREN'T WORKING AND TWO WERE DIRTY. SINCE THEN THEY MAKE SURE THEY MAKE THE LIGHT BAR CLEAN AND VISIBLE. I'M TRYING TO GET THE CITY TO BE MORE PROACTIVE AND AHEAD OF THE GAME INSTEAD OF WAITING BEHIND SOMETHING TO HAPPEN. I LIKE YOUR IDEA, MAYBE IT'S NOT AN AMENDMENT. THE TERM YOU USED IS A GOAL. LET'S GET THE INVENTORY AND GET THE CROSSWALKS DONE. SO IF IT'S NOT IN THIS BUDGET, IT'S IN THE CLEANUP NEXT YEAR SO WE CAN GET AHEAD OF THIS. GREAT POINT OF HOW YOU PUT IT. IT'S A GOAL OF OURS. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BASSAN: OKAY. WITH THAT, COUNCILOR, WE'RE STILL ON AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO TO INCLUDE WHAT WAS ADDED BY STAFF EARLIER. CORRECT? >> YES, MA'AM. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. BASSAN: MOTION IS AMENDING R-192. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: NO. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: NO. >> PASSES ON A 7-2 VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO TO R-196. ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? COUNCILOR GROUT TO CLOSE. >>COUN. GROUT: I CAN TELL YOU RIGHT NOW CENTRAL -- NO, SAN PEDRO AND MENAUL AND SAN PEDRO AND LOMAS, THOSE CROSSWALKS ARE VERY HARD TO SEE. AND I DON'T WANT AN EXCUSE THAT I COULDN'T SEE IT. I WANT THIS. THIS IS IMPORTANT TO ME. I LIKE THE PROACTIVE. WE NEED TO BE PROACTIVE INSTEAD OF REACTIVE. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW IS REACTIVE TO SOMETHING THAT HAPPENS. WE NEED TO BE PROACTIVE. I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. BASSAN: THE MOTION IS FOR AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO AS AMENDED TO R-196. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: NO. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: NO. >> PASSES ON A 7-2 VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: ALL RIGHT. COUNCILORS, WE'RE BACK ON R-196 AS AMENDED. ANY OTHER AMENDMENTS? ALL RIGHT. WE'LL GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT. >> THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. WE HAVE MELINDA FOLLOWED BY DIANA. >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCILOR BASSAN COUNCILORS. I REALLY HOPE THAT YOU ALL VOTE IN FAVOR OF THIS RESOLUTION. I ALSO APPRECIATE THIS AMENDMENT THAT YOU GUYS JUST MADE TO BE PROACTIVE FOR ALL ROAD USERS NOT JUST VULNERABLE ROAD USERS. INCLUDING THE DRIVERS. IT'S IMPORTANT TO SEE THESE THINGS AS WELL. AS A HEALTH CARE PROVIDER, AND AS I NAVIGATE COMPLETING ANOTHER DEGREE IN PUBLIC HEALTH, EDUCATION IS A CRUCIAL PIECE IN LASTING BEHAVIOR CHANGE. I HOPE YOU ALSO CONSIDER PARTNERING WITH APSE -- APS OUR YOUTH. THE STOP SMOKING CAMPAIGN WERE SUCCESSFUL DUE TO THE OUTREACH. THEY WILL BE THE FIRST TO CALL OUT BEHAVIOR CHANGES. AS A MOTHER, THIS COMPONENT IS ALSO IMPORTANT BECAUSE WHEN MAYOR KELLER CALLED ME TO TELL ME THE HAWK LIGHT WAS GOING TO GO UP I HAD TWO CONCERNS. WE DIDN'T HAVE A CODE TO SUPPORT IT, AND HOW WERE WE GOING TO GET PEOPLE TO USE THE LIGHTS CORRECTLY AS THEY'RE SHOWN TO BE MODERATELY BETTER THAN NO LIGHT IF THERE'S NO EDUCATION. THIS RESOLUTION IS ESSENTIAL TO REINFORCE THE SAFETY AND KNOWLEDGE TO PROPERLY USE THE SAFETY INFRASTRUCTURE. I HOPE THAT YOU ALL ALSO CONSIDER EXPANDING EDUCATIONAL CAMPAIGNS TO CONTAIN COMPREHENSIVE EDUCATION AROUND VULNERABLE ROAD USERS, MOTORISTS MUST BE EDUCATED BECAUSE THE ONUS OF SAFETY KNOWLEDGE SHOULDN'T SOLELY BE ON THE VULNERABLE ROAD USER TO REMAIN SAFE. MOTORISTS SHOULD BE EDUCATED ABOUT THE ALBUQUERQUE TRAFFIC CODE CONCERNING CYCLESTS IF ROAD UPDATES DON'T INCLUDE BIKE LANES. DRIVERS NEED VISUAL REMINDER OF WHAT A BIKE LANE IS IF THEY FORGET THE CYCLISTS USE THE ROAD AS WELL. THIS IS IN THE STEP OF THE HEALTH OF ALBUQUERQUE AND MAKE IT A SAFER PLACE TO DRIVE AND WALK. AND I SAY THANK YOU. >> DIANA FOLLOWED BY EVA. >> GOOD EVENING, MADAM PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL. AGAIN, MY GRANDDAUGHTER WAS KILLED ON JULY 22 WHILE CROSSING ON HER BIKE AT CARLISLE. THE CROSSING HAD FLASHING YELLOW LIGHTS AND SIGNAGE INDICATING CYCLISTS MAY BE PRESENT. MY UNDERSTANDING IS WITHIN A FEW WEEKS THE HAWK SYSTEM WILL BE PUT IN PLACE AT THE HAN BIKE PATH. I WANT TO FOLLOW UP ON WHAT EDUCATION IS COMMUNICATED AND TO WHOM AND HOW DO WE KNOW WHAT LEARNING HAS OCCURRED? WHAT CITY DEPARTMENT IS RESPONSIBLE FOR EDUCATION AND TRAINING? HOW WILL VISION ZERO BE INCORPORATED INTO THE PUBLIC EDUCATION CAMPAIGN? WILL THERE BE PUBLIC TRANSPARENCY AND COMMUNICATION? DO YOU HAVE PUBLIC EDUCATION CAMPAIGNS THAT HAVE A DOCUMENTED SCOPE METHODOLOGY AND REPORTED OUTCOME? I KNOW THERE'S A GRAPHIC ON THE HAWK SYSTEM LIGHTS WITH DRIVER AND PEDESTRIAN EXPECTATIONS SHARED THAT WERE CLEAR AND CONCISE. I THOUGHT THAT WAS HELPFUL. SOME OTHER IMPORTANT EDUCATION TOPICS, EDUCATION REGARDING YELLOW LIGHTS OR FLASHING YELLOW LIGHTS. VARIOUS TRAFFIC CONTROL DEVICES ALREADY IN USE. DEFINITIONS, IMPORTANCE OF ALL VULNERABLE ROAD USERS ARE PROTECTED. REQUIRING DRIVERS TO STOP NOT JUST YIELD. PROHIBITING DRIVERS FROM PASSING STOPPED VEHICLES AT CROSSWALKS AND FLASHING BEACONS. STRENGTHENING DRIVER'S DUTY OF CARE AROUND TRAILS AND CROSSINGS. MOTORISTS SHOULD BE ALERT AS PEOPLE MAY CROSS INAPPROPRIATELY AND SLOW DOWN AS TO NOT HIT THE BIKES. THE FACT THEY'RE CLASSIFIED AS VEHICLES LEAVING THEM IN GRAY AREAS OF PROTECTION. THANK YOU FOR COMMITTING YOURSELF TO THE SAFETY OF ALL HUMAN BEINGS IN THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE. THANK YOU. >> EVA FOLLOWED BY SOMET. >> COUNCILOR BASSAN, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS. I'M HERE TO SUPPORT MY MOM AND MY SISTER. I WOULD LIKE TO ADD MAYBE YOU GUYS COULD ADD QR CODES TO THE INFRASTRUCTURE SO RESIDENTS CAN REPORT IF THEY'RE DAMAGED OR NOT FUNCTIONING PROPERLY. IT'S RELATIVE LECHEAP -- RELATIVELY CHEAP. AND ALSO EDUCATE PEOPLE THAT THAT'S A THING THEY COULD USE. ALSO, JUST THE VEHICLES IN THE PLACES ARE TOO HIGH. ON CARLISLE AND MANY OF THE STREETS, THE THREE LANES ARE BASICALLY BEING OPERATED LIKE MINI FREEWAY AND PEOPLE TREAT THEM LIKE THAT. AND THEY SPEED CONSTANTLY THROUGH THOSE AREAS. DO WE NEED THE THREE LANES? I THINK THOSE AREAS OF TOWN COULD BE SERVED BY A BUS LANE AND YOU CAN SLOW TRAFFIC DOWN BETTER SO WE'RE NOT HAVING ACCIDENTS WHERE PEOPLE ARE GETTING KILLED AT HIGH SPEEDS? THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO ADD. THANK YOU. >> SOMET FOLLOWED BY TAD. >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCILORS. I WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO DETAIL ON THIS BILL AND THIS AMENDMENT AS WELL. I THINK THAT THE EDUCATION REGARDING THE LIGHTS NEEDS TO BE FOOLPROOF. MEANING A CHILD CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT TO DO WHEN THEY GET TO THE LIGHTS. SPECIFICALLY, THAT CROSSWAY, I HAVE SEEN IT FLASH YELLOW WHEN NOBODY IS THERE. IT IS CONFUSING. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE OPERATING CORRECTLY. AND PERHAPS MAKING THE EDUCATION OF HOW TO APPROACH THE INTERSECTIONS REQUIRED FOR YOUR DRIVERS LICENSE. THE PROGRAM THAT KAYLA WAS WORKING AT, THE BIKE SHOP, I TOOK THE CLASSES. AND IT MADE ME SUPER AWARE OF CYCLISTS AFTER TAKING THAT. HONESTLY, IT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS LIFE-CHANGING FOR ME AS WELL. I REALLY COMMEND THAT PROGRAM. I WANT THAT PROGRAM TO CONTINUE SO THAT ALL OF OUR CYCLISTS AND ALL OF THE PEOPLE THAT TAKE PART OF THAT PROGRAM CAN RESPECT CYCLISTS ON THE ROAD. THANK YOU. >> TAD. >> THANK YOU. IT IS CENTRAL AVENUE THAT'S CONNECTED EAST AND WEST OF ALBUQUERQUE. VERY FIRST MAJOR STREET. BICYCLES DO NOT BELONG ON CENTRAL AVENUE. NOW, THAT STARTED WITH ELIMINATING LANES. NOW, NOT ONLY TRANSIT, BUT BETWEEN EUBANK AND JUAN TABO, THAT'S RIGHT. BUSES ONLY LANE. ANOTHER LANE TAKEN AWAY. WASHINGTON AND CENTRAL WESTBOUND ONLY ONE LANE FOR MOTORIST. CENTRAL BELONGS TO MOTORIST. YOU ARE CREATING NUISANCE. BY YOUR ORDINANCES AND CHANGES. PUMPING MONEY INTO CENTRAL AVENUE. PUT FENCES ALL OVER ON THE MIDDLE OF CENTRAL AVENUE. THAT'S WHERE WE LIVE THESE DAYS. YOU'RE CREATING THINGS FOR SAFETY. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, THAT CONCLUDES COMMENT. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU, COUNCILORS. ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? MS. COULLIDON, I HAVE ANOTHER AMENDMENT THAT CAME UP FROM THE CONVERSATION. I NEED HELP FIGURING OUT WHERE IT'S GOING TO GO. IT'S GOING TO GO AFTER THE AMENDMENT I DID AT THEALIST >>COUN. BASSAN: I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO R-193 TO ADD AND APS. SECOND BY COUNCILOR CHAMPINE. ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? ANY OTHER STAFF? IT SHOULD BE PRETTY SIMPLE. I THINK THAT WAS A VERY GOOD POINT. I THINK THAT WHILE WE'RE DISTRIBUTING EDUCATIONAL MATERIALS, WE SHOULD DISTRIBUTE IT TO THE EDUCATORS. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, WE CAN MAKE THAT AMENDMENT. ON PAGE TWO, LINE FIVE, WE'LL ADD ALBUQUERQUE PUBLIC SCHOOLS AT THE END OF THE LIST. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU. COUNCILORS, QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? THE MOTION FOR AMENDMENT NUMBER THREE TO R-196. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU. COUNCILORS, WE'RE ON R-196 AS AMENDED. COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: MADAM PRESIDENT, I JUST WANTED TO VERIFY, YOUR AMENDMENT WAS ON PAGE ONE, LINE 20? I THINK THEY SAID THE WRONG LINE. PAGE ONE, LINE 20. PROVIDED TO APD AND ACS. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, THERE MIGHT BE A MIX UP WITH THE LINE NUMBERS. BASED ON THE BLUE LINE VERSION. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: LET'S WORK OFF THE BLUE LINE. >> YES. THE INTENT IS TO AT THIS TO SECTION TWO, SUBSECTION B. >>COUN. BASSAN: CORRECT. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? WE ARE ON R-196 AS AMENDED. COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN TO CLOSE. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I'M VERY THANKFUL THAT WE PASSED THE TRAFFIC CODE UP CODE. I WANT TO THANK ALL THE COUNCILORS. AN UPDATE IS ONLY AS GOOD AS THE EDUCATION AND OUTREACH TO THE COMMUNITY. I'M VERY, VERY PROUD OF THE BILL. I THINK IT REALLY IS AN IMPORTANT PART OF MAKING SURE EVERYONE IS SAFE. EVERYBODY DESERVES TO BE SAFE NO MATTER HOW THEY GET AROUND THE CITY. I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. BASSAN: MOTION IS FOR R-196. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU. BEFORE WE MOVE ON, CAN WE PLEASE MAKE A NOTE, STAFF, TO ADD THE GOLDEN OBJECTIVE THE WHOLE AMENDMENT. EVENTUALLY, ONCE MAY IS GONE AND PASSED, WE CAN HAVE IT AS A GOLDEN OBJECTIVE TO CONTINUE IMPROVEMENTS AND MONITORING INVENTORY FOREVER AS WE CAN MOVING FORWARD. R-201. COUNCILOR GROUT. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. R-201 IS PRESERVING THE NAME JUNIPER FLATS FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 25 HOTEL CIRCLE NORTHEAST. I MOVE DO PASS. >>COUN. BASSAN: MOTION AND A SECOND BY COUNCILOR BACA. COUNCILOR GROUT TO OPEN. >>COUN. GROUT: THIS RESOLUTION IS ASKING THE -- ASKS THE ADMINISTRATION TO KEEP THE NAME JUNIPER FLATS FOR THE PROPERTY AT 25 HOTEL CIRCLE IN DISTRICT NINE. WHAT'S IN A NAME? I THINK THERE'S A LOT IN A TIME. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO PRESERVE THE DIGNITY OF SENIOR CITIZENS WHO WILL BE LIVING IN THIS FACILITY. REMOVING THE HOUSING -- RENAMING THIS HOUSING COMPLEX TO GATEWAY SENIOR TELLS EVERYONE THAT IT'S A HOMELESS SHELTER AND IT'S NOT A HOMELESS SHELTER. IT'S SIMPLY BASIC HOUSING THAT IS AFFORDABLE FOR LOW INCOME SENIORS. PEOPLE HAVE WORKED HARD FOR A LONG TIME. A LOT OF TIMES THOSE JOBS DIDN'T OFFER PENSIONS OR 401Ks AND THEY COUNTED ON SOCIAL SECURITY TO MEETING THEIR NEEDS AND RETIREMENT. SADLY, THAT HASN'T HAPPENED. THEY DON'T NEED TO BE STUCK IN A HOMELESS SHELTER. I THINK WE SHOULD GIVE THEM DIGNITY OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING WITH A NAME THAT SOUNDS LIKE A REGULAR APARTMENT COMPLEX. I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILORS, WE HAVE ON R-201. ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENT? MADAM CAO. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, THANK YOU. COUNCILOR GROUT AND I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK EARLIER TODAY. I SHARED SOME OF MY THOUGHTS AT THAT TIME. I'D LIKE PUT THOSE ON THE RECORD FOR YOU ALL. RECOGNIZING THAT COUNCIL HAS THE AUTHORITY TO NAME ENTITIES AND FACILITIES AND NOT BALKING AT THAT. I THINK THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY THAT WOULD BE LOST AS A RESULT OF THIS. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO CLARIFY WHY. JUNIPER FLATS AS A NAME IS A MADE UP NAME BY A DEVELOPER IN THE LAST SIX MONTHS THAT HAS LITTLE TO NO MEANING EXCEPT FOR MADE UP BY DEVELOPER. I'D ALSO SAY WE HAVE NAMED IN THE HOUSING SPACE WE HAVE LOTS LOS ALTOS LOTS, THERE'S THOUGHTS AROUND MAKING NAMES. WHEN WE SPOKE ABOUT THIS LAST MEETING, AND REQUEST WAS MADE FOR A DECISION AT THAT TIME TO CHANGE OUR DIRECTION, AS I SAID WITH COUNCILOR GROUT, I DON'T SPEAK FOR THE MAYOR UNLESS I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO HEAR FROM THE MAYOR AND HEAR THE PROCESS. I COULD NOT SAY YES WITHOUT THAT. JUST AS I BELIEVE IS THE CASE FOR ALL OF YOU WITH YOUR STAFF. THEY DON'T ASK WITHOUT CONSULTING YOU. IT'S GOOD RESPECT FOR THE ELECTIVES. WITH THAT, THESE ARE MY THOUGHTS ON THIS ISSUE. AND PLEASE KNOW THAT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO CLARIFY THAT I THINK WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO WORK TOGETHER TO NAME THIS FACILITY. I'M NOT UNILATERALLY THROWING OUT JUNIPER FLATS. I JUST WISH WE WOULD DO THAT WORK AND COME UP WITH THE RIGHT NAME FOR THE CITY. SECOND CONVERSATION I HAD WITH COUNCILOR WAS RELATED TO SECTION TWO. WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS ABOUT SEPARATIONS OF POWER AND CONSULTED WITH OUR CITY ATTORNEYS AND THEY CAN SPEAK MORE CLEARLY. THIS, TO ME, STEPS OVER THE SPACE IN TERMS OF HOW IT IS DIRECTED. HAPPY FOR MR. ROLLENED TO SPEAK WHY THAT IS THE CASE, IN MY OPINION. AND HE CAN GIVE HIS. >> THANK YOU, COUNCILOR BASSAN. WHEN THE COURTS LOOK AT SEPARATION OF POWERS ISSUES, IN CASES LIKE THIS, THEY OFTEN LOOK TOWARD WHETHER OR NOT THERE'S AN IMPINGEMENT IN THE EXECUTIVE ON THE ACTION TAKEN OR HAD MICROMANAGEMENT OF THE FUNDING WHEN IT COMES TO THE EXECUTIVE ACTUALLY BEING ABLE TO OPERATE AND EXECUTE THE DIRECTIVE FROM THE LEGISLATURE. OF COURSE, GENERALLY LOOK DISFAVORABLY ON INSTANCES WHERE THERE IS SPECIFIC MICROMANAGEMENT OR IMPINGEMENT ON WHAT THE EXECUTIVE IS WANTING TO DO. IN THIS CASE, WITH A VERY EXPLICIT DIRECTIVE WITHIN THE RESOLUTION THAT LIMITS THE ABILITY TO JUST SIMPLY EVEN PUT A SIGN UP BECOMES VERY MICROMANAGEMENT AND IMPINGEMENT OF EXECUTIVE ACTION BASED ON APPROPRIATIONS THAT WERE GIVEN BY THE COUNCIL. THAT WOULD BE THE CAUTION HERE. THIS DOES SEEM TO BE GOING IN THE PATH AND POTENTIALLY COULD BE SEEN AND I WOULD SAY ALMOST LIKELY TO BE SEEN BY A COURT TO BE INFRINGING ON THE SEPARATION OF POWERS DOCTRINE. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR GROUT. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. MS. COULLIDON, DO YOU SEE SEPARATION OF POWERS ISSUE? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, I DON'T. THE REASON IS BECAUSE THE DIRECTIVE OF THE LEGISLATURE AS WAS REFERRED TO IS HERE TO KEEP THE NAME JUNIPER FLATS. SO, THE RESTRICTION ON USING COUNCIL-APPROPRIATED FUNDS FOR ANYTHING OTHER THAN THE NAME JUNIPER FLATS WOULD BE IN LINE WITH THAT DIRECTIVE. I THEM AS FINANCIAL COMPONENT AS SUBSIDIARY OF THE POLICY DIRECTIVE OF NAMING THE FACILITY JUNIPER FLATS. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. I HAVE SOME FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR GROUT, IF YOU DON'T MIND, CAN I GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT? I'LL GO TO COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN AND THEN CIRCLE BACK TO YOU. >> THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. WE HAVE ANAMI TO SPEAK. >> HI, Y'ALL. I'LL BE QUICK. THE PROCESS OF CHANGING YOUR NAME IS A REALLY EXPENSIVE PAIN IN THE ASS. I WOULDN'T RECOMMEND IT, EVEN FOR A BUILDING. THE OTHER THING IS I ACTUALLY LIKE THE NEW GATEWAY NAMING SYSTEM. I THINK IT'S GOOD FOR DISTINGUISHING WHICH SHELTERS ARE CITY OWNED AND WHICH ONES AREN'T. I THINK BLURRING THE LINES BETWEEN SHELTERS AND PERMANENT RESIDENCE IS CONFUSING AND STRANGE. ALSO THE NAME JUNIPER FLATS SOUNDS LIKE A PRETTY GOOD DRAG NAME. I SUPPORT IT. THANKS. >> THAT CONCLUDES COMMENT. THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILORS, WHICHEVER PREFERS TO GO FIRST. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS FOR DR. SENGEL. IS THERE ANY CONVERSATION AROUND A MIDDLE GROUND? JUNIPER FLATS, A GATEWAY FACILITY? ANYTHING THAT FEELS LIKE WE CAN COME TO A COMPROMISE THAT DOESN'T REQUIRE A BILL TO GET THERE. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, WE ARE HAPPY TO TALK THROUGH THE MIDDLE GROUND AND TALK ABOUT NAMING. THE CONVERSATION WAS AT CITY COUNCIL LAST TIME. AND A RESOLUTION CAME FORWARD. I CALLED COUNCILOR GROUT TODAY. WE CAN WORK -- WE DON'T OWN THE PROPERTY YET. WE DON'T HAVE THE ENTITY YET. WE HAVE IN THE PROCESS OF WORKING THROUGH THAT. SO, WE'RE NOT THERE YET. PART OF THIS IS A STATEMENT THAT WAS MADE AND THIS IS THE REACTION TO A STATEMENT THAT WAS MADE. I'M HAPPY TO WORK THROUGH MIDDLE GROUND. WE'VE TALKED WITHIN THE CITY OF OTHER THINGS LIKE LA ENTRADA OR WAYS TO THINK ABOUT THE LOFTS SO IT'S CONNECTED WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING. AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT A SENIOR LIVING FACILITY, GATEWAY LIVING FACILITY, AS A DEFINER FOR FOLKS TO KNOW WHERE THE CONNECTIONS ARE. THIS LANGUAGE WOULD INDICATE WE WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO DO ANYTHING LIKE THAT. WE CAN ONLY CALL IT JUNIPER FLATS. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I GUESS I DON'T CARE ABOUT THE NAME. I WILL SAY, VERY CLEARLY, I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY LOSS OF DIGNITY IN THE TERM GATEWAY IN THE NAME. THE YOUTH SHELTER THAT WILL BE IN DISTRICT SEVEN IS YOUTH GATEWAY. THAT NAME WAS CHANGED WITHOUT MY KNOWLEDGE. I FOUND OUT ABOUT IT AT A COUNCIL MEETING. THAT WAS UPSETTING. I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING PROBLEMATIC WITH HAVING THAT TERM IN THE NAME OF THE FACILITY. I THINK IT IS WHAT YOU READ INTO IT. I WOULD REALLY ENCOURAGE US TO FIND A MIDDLE GROUND THAT KEEPS THE SIGN. JUNIPER FLATS IS THE SIGN UP. WHY WOULD WE CHANGE THAT? BUT I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH A TAG LINE. I FELT LIKE IT WAS POINTING THERE HEAR THERE'S NO MIDDLE GROUND THAT ANYBODY WAS ABLE TO COME TO. THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR ROGERS. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I JUST HAVE SOME QUESTIONS. GATEWAY SENIORS. CAN HOMELESS SENIORS WHO DON'T HAVE AN INCOME LIVE IN JUNIPER FLATS? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR ROGERS, I'M SORRY I KEEP GETTING NAMES MIXED UP. >>COUN. ROGERS: WE DON'T LOOK ANYTHING ALIKE. >>COUN. ROGERS: FOR THE RECORD I'VE BEEN CALLING HAD RASCAL FLATS WHILE WE'VE BEEN TALK ABOUT IT. I'M SORRY. WE HAVE NOT FULLY -- AS YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE THE PROPERTY. WE'RE WORKING THROUGH ALL THE DETAILS. OUR INTENTION IS INDIVIDUALS WILL HAVE AFFORDABLE HOUSING. IT WILL BE EVERYTHING FROM 40% TO 80% OF AMI FOR -- BECAUSE IT IS INTENDED TO BE AFFORDABLE HOUSING. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU. IT'S FOR SENIORS WHO CAN PAY FOR RENT CORRECT? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR ROGERS, HAVE SOME FUNDING FOR IT. YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: OKAY. TO ME, THAT MEANS IT'S NOT A SHELTER. SHOULDN'T BE LUMPED IN WITH THE GATEWAY NETWORK. IT'S NOT A SHELTER. AND I KNOW WE APPROVED THE -- I THINK THAT'S I'M CONFUSED. I KNOW WE ALREADY APPROVED THE CONTRACT FOR THE OPERATOR, WHICH IS MONARCH PROPERTIES, WITHOUT US OWNING THE PROPERTY. WE ALREADY PASSED THAT. AND EVERY PAPERWORK, EVERY PIECE OF LEGISLATION, EVERY APPROPRIATION, THE STATE CONTRACT, EVERYTHING THERE SAYS JUNIPER FLATS. SO, I GUESS MIME -- I'M CONFUSED WHERE GATEWAY SENIOR CAME FROM. IF IT'S NOT A SHELTER LIKE THE OTHER GATEWAY SYSTEMS, IT'S NOT PERMANENT HOUSING, I DON'T THINK IT SHOULD BE CALLED GATEWAY. IF IT'S NOT A SHELTER. THAT'S OUR COMMUNITY. IT KNOWS GATEWAY MEANS SHELTER. NOT PERMANENT HOUSING. SO, IF A SENIOR THAT WE -- WE HAVE OVER 200 SENIORS IN THE GATEWAY SYSTEM. IF THERE'S NO MECHANISM FOR THEM TO LIVE THERE BECAUSE THERE'S NO INCOME, I DON'T AGREE WITH IT BEING LUMPED INTO THE GATEWAY NETWORK. WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE GATEWAY NETWORK IS. WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN OPERATIONS FOR THE GATEWAY NETWORK. I DON'T WANT TO MUDDY THE WATERS. NOT A QUESTION. JUST MY OBSERVATION. >> IF I MAY, MADAM PRESIDENT? WE HAVE MANY PEOPLE WITHIN OUR SHELTER SYSTEM THAT DO HAVE INCOME. AND THAT'S WHY WE ARE ABLE, MANY TIMES, TO HELP THEM MOVE FROM A SHELTER SYSTEM INTO HOUSING BECAUSE WE'RE ABLE TO WORK WITH THEM IN SUPPORTING THEM WITH THE FUNDING TO PAY FOR OR WORK WITH THEIR FUNDING FOR HOUSING. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I'M VERY AWARE OF WORKING WITH THE PROVIDER WE HAVE AT THE GATEWAY. I'VE SEEN WHAT THE INCOME IS. MOST OF THEM MAKE BETWEEN $600 AND $800 A MONTH. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE RENT IS GOING TO BE. THEY'RE SAYING 80% OF AMI DOESN'T TELL ME WHAT THE RENT IS SPECIFICALLY. SO THESE SENIORS CAN MAKE BETWEEN $600 AND $800 A MONTH CAN AFFORD TO LIVE THERE. THAT'S MY CONCERN. THAT WOULD BE GOOD TO KNOW. WHAT IS THE RENT GOING TO BE FOR A SENIOR? MOST MAKE BETWEEN 600 AND $800 A MONTH. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR GROUT. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. THERE ARE A LOT OF -- THE CITY OWNS SEVERAL PROPERTIES. AND THEY ARE APARTMENTS. AND THE RESIDENTS THAT LIVE THERE HAVE LEASES. THE PEOPLE THAT WILL BE LIVING AT JUNIPER FLATS ARE GOING TO HAVE LEASES. WHEN YOU THINK OF THE GATEWAY SYSTEM, YOU THINK OF SHELTERS. YOU THINK OF HELP. BUT YOU'RE BEING HELPED. AND THAT'S GREAT. IT'S TEMPORARY. BUT THE JUNIPER FLATS ARE GOING TO BE PERMANENT HOME FOR THESE PEOPLE. THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE LEASES. AND THEY SHOULD HAVE DIGNITY. I THINK WE'RE ALSO GOING TO HAVE TO FILL THESE PROPERTIES. THESE HOMES. AND I JUST HAVE -- I'M VERY CONCERNED THAT PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO LIVE IN A SHELTER. GATEWAY SHELTER, THE GATEWAY SYSTEM IS A SHELTER SYSTEM. I'M GLAD WE HAVE IT. THESE PEOPLE DESERVE DIGNITY. LOS ALTOS LOFT IS A NICE FACILITY. IT'S NOT PART OF THE GATEWAY SYSTEM. THERE ARE OTHER CITY-OWNED APARTMENT COMPLEXES IN DISTRICT NINE THAT ARE FOR LOW INCOME. AND THEY AREN'T CALLED GATEWAY SYSTEMS. BECAUSE THEY'RE PERMANENT HOMES. AND WE DON'T NEED TO BE SPENDING MONEY ON NEW SIGNS. I THINK JUNIPER FLATS IS A LOVELY NAME. AT OUR LAST MEETING, COUNCILOR LEWIS NAMED A BUILDING IN HIS DISTRICT A NAME. I WOULD LIKE TO KEEP THIS ONE JUNIPER FLATS. I THINK IT'S A LOVELY NAME. WE CAN SPEND MONEY ON OTHER THINGS. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR LEWIS. AND WE'LL GO BACK TO COUNCILOR GROUT TO CLOSE. >>COUN. LEWIS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. YOU KNOW, WHEN THE GATEWAY -- WHEN IT BEGAN, IT WAS THE MAYOR'S SOLUTION TO -- AND THE VOTERS APPROVED THE IDEA, GIVEN THE FIRST $15 MILLION TO GATEWAY CENTER. IT WAS ENTIRELY SOLD ON A SHELTER SYSTEM. IT WAS ENTIRELY SOLD ON SPECIFICALLY, EIGHT YEARS, IT WAS ABOUT WHAT DO WE DO TO THOSE THAT ARE LIVING ON THE STREETS AND NEED SHELTER RIGHT NOW, FOOD AND CLOTHING? IT'S ALWAYS BEEN SOLD AS THE IDEA OF A TEMPORARY SHELTER AND SYSTEM TO TREAT AND HELP PEOPLE WHERE THEIR NEEDS ARE. THIS IS WHERE PEOPLE LIVE. THIS IS A HOME. IT'S GOT A DIFFERENT NAME. IT'S GOT A DIFFERENT IDENTITY. AND I DON'T BELIEVE AS WE JUST POURED MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS INTO THE GATEWAY SYSTEM THAT WE JUST CREATE MORE AND MORE PURPOSES FOR IT. REALLY, IT LOOKS LIKE TO JUSTIFY IT. WHEN IT COMES TO SOMETHING LIKE THIS, AS SIMPLE AS THE COUNCIL'S ROLE IN NAMING BUILDINGS AND AS COUNCILOR GROUT MENTIONED WE NAMED THE FACILITY IN MY DISTRICT WITH CONVERSATIONS AND COOPERATION WITH THE DEPARTMENT THERE. BUT SOMETHING AS SIMPLE AS THIS TO USE THE SEPARATION OF POWERS ARGUMENT. YOU HAD TWO DIFFERENT ATTORNEYS HERE. AGAIN, I THINK THAT'S REALLY BOTHERSOME THAT AS SIMPLE THING LIKE THIS THAT WE WOULD BRING SEPARATION OF POWERS AND SOMEHOW SAY THIS IS AN INSTANCE OF MICROMANAGEMENT BY THE COUNCIL. AND THE ONLY IMPLICATION OF THAT WOULD BE THAT THE MAYOR IS GOING TO SUE YOU IF YOU MAKE DECISIONS LIKE THIS. I WOULD HAVE TO CONCLUDE THAT YOU WORK FOR THE MAYOR. YOU'RE ENTIRELY GIVING AN ARGUMENT, LEGAL ARGUMENT, ON BEHALF OF THE ADMINISTRATION AND THE MAYOR. I WOULD THINK IF YOU WORK FOR ALL OF US, YOU WOULD ANALYZE IT. YOU WOULD ANALYZE BOTH WAYS. NOT WITH THE IDEA THAT, HEY, YOU MIGHT GET SUED. WHO WOULD SUE US? THE ONLY ONE THAT WOULD SUE US IS YOU GUYS. IT'S A PRETTY SIMPLE THING. I CERTAINLY THINK THE COUNCIL SHOULD WEIGH IN ON THESE THINGS. CERTAINLY COUNCILOR GROUT UNDERSTANDING HER AREA AND COMMUNITY AND REPRESENTING AN AREA THAT HAS A REAL IDENTITY. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT. THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR GROUT TO CLOSE. >>COUN. GROUT: I'M HAPPY THAT THE CITY IS IN NEGOTIATIONS TO BUY THIS PROPERTY. TO HOUSE SOME FINE PEOPLE IN OUR CITY. AND I JUST THINK THEY DESERVE TO LIVE IN A HOME THAT HAS A LOVELY NAME AND ISN'T ASSOCIATED WITH A SHELTER SYSTEM. I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. BASSAN: MOTION IS FOR R-201. MADAM CLERK. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILORS, NO OTHER BUSINESS. THERE BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS, THIS COUNCIL MEETING IS ADJOURNED.