[0:00] Chair: Monday, June 2nd. Item one on the agenda was our minutes. The last time that we gathered uh whatever day that was in May 19th. Second. Mike got the motion. Sam's got the second on the minutes. All those in favor say I. Post. No. Done with that one public hearing this evening. It's a preliminary and final plat on a reuse of a downtown building. We look to Harry Davis. [0:29] Harry Davis: Thank you, Mr. Chair. So the resolution in front of you is to approve the edition by Johnson. Yeah, it's coming up. Is working on it. [0:46] It's just such a delay. Um and the owner is the Fairbell Downtown Central, which is kind of the chambers. The location for the property is 301 Central Avenue. Yeah, can't see anything either. For what it's worth, it seems to be every other monitor up here. So, we're sharing. It's all good. [1:08] Harry Davis: What happened? Cozy over here. The buddy system going system. We're good. We're fine here. You can get—I'm sorry, Harry, but we're all good. Um, so right downtown, right along Central Avenue. Um, here's the particular property in question. Here's the zoning just surrounding that property. Pretty much all central business. Uh the plat to subdivide one lot into three and they're using some of the existing interior property walls and some of the uh when you get more on the back side of the building, some of the exterior walls. Um, this is to facilitate uh some future ownership of each of the proposed three buildings that are going [1:53] to result from this split. Um, and hopefully some really good investment properties. Here's the preliminary plat. The preliminary plat is not uh it it needs to be slightly amended, although it's not the plat that gets recorded at the county. So this plat doesn't matter nearly as much as the final plat that's in front of you. So this is the final lot layout that they will go with going forward. There is a little bit of a fire code issue when it comes to the second floor when we start talking about adding in a fire rated wall in between these buildings that is along the property line. And so what they've done is they've uh thought a little bit more, [2:39] put in this easement that they're uh requesting alongside of this plat in order to facilitate adequate access for all of this. The preliminary plat other than the fact that it's slightly different from the final plat—there are no major issues with that. So the final plat um we don't really have any huge issues with it. We have some small things that we need the applicant to take care of. [3:05] Some title issues. Nothing anything that particularly impacts this plat or anything like that. Um as well as some utilities. Uh just making sure that the access side of it. So just really some small things that are covered by the conditions. Uh but generally it's meeting our zoning requirements. So we're recommending in favor of the resolution and that you recommend in favor of it. [3:31] Chair: Good. Thank you. Do we have questions for Harry? It is a public hearing, so I need to acknowledge that there is no one here from the public. So, I can open public hearing. I can close public hearing. Back up here to the planning commission for discussion and a motion. [3:48] Steve: Steve, I'm I'm comfortable with this. I mean, you can have a condo on a high-rise and own your own little condo. And this is similar to what I'm thinking, but I'd like a further explanation of the fire business with the walls that you were talking about. I was catching part of it, but I didn't fully—sure. [4:18] Harry Davis: So, in between buildings, like so, if you have a building and a building and they're right, they're they're abutting each other on a property line, there's a fire separation um that you really can't meet. So, you have to fire rate that wall. Uh it's got to be rated for—I don't know how many hours, it's out of my wheelhouse, but it's rated for a number of hours. So, what they're doing is that they're going to build up that wall in order to meet fire [4:37] uh fire code for that and then they're actually putting in a door and that's going to facilitate having adequate fire access for one of those buildings to get out through the other building. [4:51] Chair: Other discussion motion? [4:54] Sam: Motion to approve as written. [4:57] Chair: Got a motion from Sam on the preliminary and final all together. One motion's fine with that. Yep. Got a motion and second preliminary and final plat uh as presented to us tonight. Is there any discussion on this at all? If not, we'll vote. All those in favor say I. No. That carries. That is it for public hearings. [5:18] Uh Harry, I'm assuming you have an update on this virtual meeting that's going to happen next week or two weeks. [5:24] Harry Davis: Yes. So uh strangely enough, we actually don't have any items for the regular planning commission meeting. We could have a work session and have that be virtual. That is a possibility. So or just not meet at all. [5:39] And yeah, I'm not add—I'm not seeing any interest in that. So maybe maybe we call off uh call off the next planning commission meeting. [5:49] Chair: There seems to be by by looking at facial expression and head nodding I I I think there seems to be consensus. Motion to approve—what what method are we going to use if we have a virtual meeting? [6:06] Harry Davis: Right, so that's something that uh we were going to work out tonight but Carrie has somewhere to be so we're not going to impede that. Uh but tomorrow we're over lunch going to take a look at what we can do here in council chambers. Uh what's been shown to me is that we should be able to use that laptop there. [6:22] Uh run a Teams meeting through that laptop. I will join that meeting in order to present. And so it'll be on all of your screens what's on that laptop and at the same time someone like Tina or whoever is attending virtually will be connecting to that meeting that's on that. [6:38] Steve: Would it be out of the realm that if I—if my schedule works? I mean, it's somewhat flexible, but I could—I'd like to come when you do this where I would just be connected to either a hotspot off my phone to see if I've got my equipment or how it's going to connect and work with Teams. [7:13] Harry Davis: Uh, we could try that. Yeah, I—I mean, if you're not doing anything tomorrow at noon? Tomorrow's not going to be good. Okay, we'll let you guys talk about that in the next—well, especially since we're not meeting on the 16th, so we got a month to figure it out. [7:21] Chair: Sam, go ahead. [7:26] Sam: So, when you say virtual meeting, if one person needs a virtual meeting, we all just don't show up or we— [7:43] Harry Davis: No, everyone shows up. So, everyone shows up except for the one-off person. At least one person needs to be here. But the intent is to, you know, all of a sudden we have a virtual meeting, no one needs to show up—that's—that's not the— [7:47] Chair: Okay, we're good with that. Uh, routine council updates. Anything else? [7:49] Harry Davis: Yeah. So, I was going to pull up the um what went through council, which was a lot—uh which explains small uh typo issues. So we had um I think of the slightly less than 40 items that were on the City Council agenda, over half of them were items coming from the planning commission or some sort of uh planning and zoning related uh issue. So uh one that did not come through the planning commission was an uh annexation for an area that's on the north side of the northern uh industrial park. Might have mentioned that before. So that did pass. Uh it did go through some republication. I got to send those publications out. Um, Mighty Fine Coffee went through. Uh there was a little bit of discussion on it but not much. Uh so that—that's—that's gone through. The only thing that is uh waiting at this point would be the ordinance for rezoning property. Um but it was a unanimous vote in favor of Mala Autobody. Uh it's very similar. [9:01] So that was a unanimous support for that as well. It's just the vacation that needs to go through twice in Vacation Place. Um there was actually not a whole lot of discussion on this uh but it went through with unanimous support. Um no direction from council as to what we should do and that's sort of a product of—the thought was to bring it to a city council work session. [9:37] It was um thought that we already had a solution for this uh but we did not. Um and so instead of bringing it to a city council work session, what we have been told by administration is to work it out amongst ourselves with the planning commission and come up with a solution and then show that to city council. So we don't really have a whole lot of direction or input. Um but we're—we've been directed to put something together. [10:18] So that's—that's kind of where we're at. So that would be in a future planning commission item for lots that are larger than five acres or whatever, however you'd want to phrase it to get us into that discussion. However we want to slice it, whether it is some sort of sliding scale for all properties or only for those that are five acres or it only kicks in when your property is like double the size—however you want to slice it. That's—that's something that has been kicked to us. [10:52] Sam: Steve, I like your thoughts on the sliding scale because we've had numerous applications that have come through here and it's passed where they've been from acre and a half to two-acre lots. [11:08] They want a little bit bigger building, but it didn't fit to the five-acre. And I—I think the sliding scale would be the most for a thought process. [11:18] Steve: Yeah, like my—my thought is okay, you know, let's—you know, probably starting today, let's all kind of think about some—some—some different ideas as to how it might be best to approach this and then let's come to a work session and kind of come up with a bunch of different ideas, put them on a whiteboard and then see—let's not preclude any ideas. We all see what works. Yeah. Yeah. So it might be a few different sessions, but you know, eventually getting to something that I think the—the intent at the end of the day is to potentially allow something that was approved for D. That kind of being the—the chief direction I guess, to figure out how to make something that council just approved—approve. [12:12] Harry Davis: Okay. Anything else? Um yeah, the proof parking went through. Uh there was a question uh a little bit about this just in terms of making sure that commercial properties had enough parking at the end, but we worked through it. Thankfully, the city attorney was here and described some of the the ways legally that we would have in order to encourage or to—or to force in some situations—a property owner to build parking for land use. That—that's everything. [12:54] Sam: Sam's got the motion.