This transcript features a regular meeting of the Moose Lake City Council. Based on the context provided and the dialogue, I have identified the speakers, including Mayor Jim Michalski, City Administrator Ellissa Owens, and various department heads. [0:01] Mayor Jim Michalski: yeah yeah listenership like to you I welcome everyone to the March 14th Wednesday 2018 regular meeting Moose Lake City Council and like to start with a Pledge of Allegiance please liberty and justice for all [0:46] Mayor Jim Michalski: like I think our guests that are here tonight come first item four approve agenda there any changes or Corrections to the agenda [1:00] Council Member Douglas Juntunen: dad the old school it's possible under put down to move sure which would be 6l the old school the old school department reports can be add-on F is still like a committee met and just like to give I have a brief update okay [1:35] Mayor Jim Michalski: any other changes additions Corrections pain under you have a motion [1:40] Council Member: so moved [1:42] Mayor Jim Michalski: there's a second [1:43] Council Member: second [1:44] Mayor Jim Michalski: all in favor say aye aye opposed motion carried number two a consent agenda we have 2a the minutes for February 15 2018 City Council regular meeting minutes any questions hearing none do we have a motion to accept the minutes [2:05] Council Member: sum of [2:07] Mayor Jim Michalski: a second [2:08] Council Member: second [2:09] Mayor Jim Michalski: all in favor say aye aye opposed motorcade under consent agenda to be one [2:23] the city accounts payable for March 2018 to be which to be two which is the city financial reports February 2018 and under be through liquor store profit loss statements for February 2018 any discussion or questions [2:49] Council Member: Washington prove [2:50] Mayor Jim Michalski: we have a second good when you feel it questions very now and we have a motion we're all in favor say aye excuse me aye opposed motion carried under number three which is public comment this time is reserved for comments from the public on matters not listed on the agenda please keep your Minister your comments to three minutes please [3:15] Gary Highley: all right my name's Gary Highley, moved to Moose Lake about seven years ago I lived up on 73 just past the church just past no Kenwood Road and I was wondering if we could get a no Jake brake sign up there [3:35] from what I understand there used to be one years ago I have talked to Tim about this in the past and I think he didn't mention that but it's no longer there I've heard that it was knocked down and took out all the way and if the signs if the signs up there and it's not enforced these truckers don't pay any attention so phone was up there and they would start writing on their buddies to stop you in a bit Jake breaks at 4:30 in the morning because personally I wouldn't mind find out where they live and drive past their house a few times but there again Sunday night at 12:30 a.m. [4:12] there we go over to Jake breaks his wondering what can be done about it how can I get two started [4:18] Mayor Jim Michalski: we can we can call contact the state and and have them pull one up [4:25] Gary Highley: all right could we put up or lots of process [4:28] Mayor Jim Michalski: the state would have to be the ones to put up because it's a state highway okay we can't put science F but we certainly can talk to them about the problem and I think it's a good idea I live on a block off of 73 and I hear them too so I'm all for it [4:45] Gary Highley: okay it was you I spoke to the other day in the library so [4:49] Mayor Jim Michalski: the we know who the the d-o-t supervisor is in town and I think we can contact him tomorrow and get working on that [4:58] Gary Highley: okay appreciate it [5:00] very much thank you used to be one up on by going I would atone to up by the Dollar General coming into town those houses along there and that disappeared to that's fine and they come down with the construction that happened this period a few years ago but I I dunno what that at some point there was one there too after the roundabout you're talking [5:30] Mayor Jim Michalski: yeah between the roundabout and the dollar store cuz there's that little housing there there they had complained about Jake break and there was a sign put up but it's been gone for a fact what both places in yeah [5:44] Gary Highley: one more question if a Jake brake sign goes up who's supposed to enforce that would that be the State [5:46] Patrol [5:48] Mayor Jim Michalski: it would be local police our chief is right here [5:52] Law Enforcement Lead (Chief): yeah guess it depends on once they entered the city and our youth our engine braking coming down the hill then then technically okay we could because it the people that have the survey store down in the business I spoke to them before Nace's we don't understand it sometimes we're here at 6:30 in the morning and are coming down the hill with their Jake brakes and that's right in town er [6:15] Council Member Douglas Juntunen: thank you that's against the noise ordinance the sign won't need anything about Jake breaking the sign would read it local noise ordinance or enforce those signs are no longer used anymore about Jake breaking [6:32] the the city or the towns or excuse me or the county or the state whoever is going to enforce it would have to have a decibel meter which none of them carry anymore it used to be something in the past so I think that placing the sign is good and I understand that but I think it needs to go another layer and I don't have an answer for you on on the enforcement because no one has a decibel meter [7:14] Mayor Jim Michalski: Doug going to explained in where you work [7:17] Council Member Douglas Juntunen: and I work for the Carlton County Sheriff's Office I worked on patrol so those are the things that I've seen in the past and we've had other people with those complaints in the past and and it is an issue that enforcing it is a challenge just church parking light mm-hmm of course you never know when a trucks will come through it was in my church parking lot they could tell that that guy using his Jake brake yes and then it then it comes upon how are you enforcing that and are you enforcing it with every [8:04] single person that comes through town if someone's advocate they're going to say what what was the decibel and what's acceptable and how holy the ordinance is written to enforce that ordinance so there's more than just putting up a sign as you asked and commented on I just want you to be aware of that and of course common sense would figure into the factors but they're not going to say all my Jake brakes are too loud they're going to argue the point but we're certainly going to research it and find out [8:45] Mayor Jim Michalski: we appreciate your input duck is you probably up-to-date right now where we're not we just don't know about it but there'll be some job to look into it [8:52] everything back to us when and could you give your phone number I'm over here I'm on your way out so that we can call you we find out what keep you up to date too [9:05] Gary Highley: now you said something about a noise ordinance how is that enforced [9:08] Council Member Douglas Juntunen: oh yeah that's one of the things you can put up a sign that says well we enforce them but then it comes right down to what does ordinance state do you have a way of measuring the sound that has been emitting from the truck and other vehicles that are coming through are you doing it on a regular basis are you I'm just going through what's going to come up in court if you go there how are you going to enforce your local noise ordinance so those are things that need to be looked at okay [9:37] Council Member Kris Huso: okay thank you yes I had a question do we have a meter [9:45] Council Member Douglas Juntunen: we don't [9:47] Council Member Kris Huso: are they pretty spendy I imagine because we have complaints with the ATVs also you know it's the same the same thing it's just those one or two ATVs that are too loud and that's the complaints we get to this would be they may be something to look into so we could enforce our research see you probably have to be calibrated every year and stuff but yeah [10:10] Council Member Douglas Juntunen: here you have thousands and thousands of truckers that are going through this area not all of them are from the area you can do situational stops on vehicles [10:25] all you want the chances that you're going to get a few of the people that are in the area conforming to those rules it would help a little bit but we this is a major thoroughfare so I think the the police departments task would be a tough one [10:45] Gary Highley: I would disappear somewhere I was riding my bike and there was a state trooper giving tickets watch it for people without seatbelts by the church yep and they could definitely do that I spoke to him about it and he says they would watch for him and if they could catch a couple of them they would radio their buddies and say you have to like you better not to be Jake breaking down through 73 you know and maybe that's all it takes I don't know and it definitely would [11:11] help [11:13] Council Member Douglas Juntunen: I'm not saying that it wouldn't I'm just saying that's probably one of the best things you could probably do is go out there and stop a few people to be visible [11:25] Gary Highley: you're more than welcome to sit in my driveway down through there very good thank you [11:32] Mayor Jim Michalski: thanks for being apart from everyone you're welcome to stay or you can depart whenever you feel like it thank you so much [11:40] Gary Highley: no problem thank you thank you for coming [11:45] Mayor Jim Michalski: anyone else for public comment hearing none we'll move on to departmental reports for is Police Chief Department report for February 12 through March 10th [12:00] Law Enforcement Lead (Chief): mayor council thank you Sheila Travis is for doing just fine he's doing a very good job very active in a somewhat busy month able to get some guys some time off that's that's been good a couple of things the ice fishing contest went great there was very well attended and attended and no issues whatsoever was a beautiful be I was [12:32] working that day and there wasn't a call and no issues whatsoever so that was good hugs and hugs which we usually do in February they're going to do it in June this year which is not the most opportune time for us cuz it's very busy in the summer but that's when they're going to do it so we'll certainly work with them to help any weekend so that's going to be the above the second Saturday of June and about ten other events already making plans for some of the events coming up in in May we have the moose run and then it there's pretty much something every weekend so looking [13:20] forward to spring coming and hobbies there with with spring our calls go up considerably and the population goes up considerably but looking forward to two spring so next month we're going to be doing some of our mandatory training we have mandatory training every year that were mandated by the post Board and the state legislature where the legislative branch administered more training that were needing to do every three years in addition to heard of the Train were mandated to do training on dealing with mentally ill people more [14:07] diversity training and dealing with people in crisis so that's every three years during our licensee period it's an additional 12 hours of training so they just came out with the objectives from that training so we're working with our training company that we use to figure out the best way to do that so other than that circular is still going ahead first part of next month our squads are scheduled to get the new equipment installed and training is coming up next week in the next two weeks for our officers to learn how to use it so [14:54] that's about it [14:55] Mayor Jim Michalski: very good thank you thank you looks like 132 calls for the month that's quite a lot this four pound pine County Sheriff's Department assists seven Carlton County Sheriff's Department assists seven mercy ambulance assist six Minnesota State Patrol assists so a lot activity and thank you and pass it on to the staff please next Public Works superintendent report [15:40] Phil Entner: mr. mayor members of the council on we all know we've had a ton of snow everybody's sick of it including us we're all ready for spring so yeah we [15:40] had a whole lot of stone we told lies no we broke a lot of stuff were in the process of fixing things so without being said from last month we the trailer is ordered that we've always approved countdown with station pumps and the Norwood lift station pumps both have been ordered the campground lift station I'm going to try to get that done before the copening of the campground for the spring so there's no delay if we can't get them in before then that's fine we'll do it in the evening or when there's a low flow of time so or we'll be out of the way and is noticeable and be better for everything the thousand cutter was ordered as well we had an apartment pump four point three million gallons drinking water this month which is which is almost double due to our allotted week so we have had we had last month and are not fixed yet [16:28] due to the frost steps or just kind of holding at bay and we're gonna get them down here as soon as the frost is out but everything is kind of tidied up for right now and we're just hanging in there so if it gets worse obviously we'll move ahead but this nice weather definitely is making it easier for everybody and getting those things closer to getting that sewer department collected 10 million gallons of wastewater so that's up to so definitely we have a spring melt going on and a little bit of I and I we can see already starting to come a couple of things snow we talked about that Pavel filling in - all last week were filling house um there's anyone everyone always has complaints as to where the worst reef is if you want to share that with me be my guest get a hold of me I'll be put you [17:14] on top the list or weather we had to do to get you done I know everybody's street is horrible and we'll we'll get you done so other than that like I said but a lot of breakdowns but we've had a lot of hours in the trucks here last three weeks so any questions for me [17:28] Mayor Jim Michalski: you want to just really really briefly touch on the wells [17:35] Phil Entner: so well number one were having some issues with her having high run high run times with low yield so what that means is it's not pumping the amount of water it's supposed to so it could be down and we could have a stage which is technically like a gear in a transmission same thing we could have a stage going out of it we could have a screen getting full of sediment or dirt [18:01] or sand or whatever we're I'm probably going to call time well tomorrow and pick their brain a little bit and see which which way we should go I did dig up some reports from the past that did you know there's been documentation saying you know we should we really need to do something with both of those wells and well number one you know there's been red flags on that for a while now so it's definitely time to move and do something you know we we've talked about a web project before I know Tim and I have and the Public Works Committee has and they just so hate to spend a bunch of money just before we do a huge project but we we didn't need to have we definitely need to look into that I [18:46] think the reason the reason I'd like to bring that up is over the next month if if we do need to have somebody come out there could be an expensive bill with that so just before you see something like that on there there's something funky happening with one of our wells so I can definitely keep our Public Works board up to date on that too as to what's going on and we're gonna have water yeah absolutely something to take care of it any other questions [19:25] Council Member Douglas Juntunen: I do you briefly touched on I and I with the spring coming this year and we've what you guys have worked really hard at fixing some of the ini issues are is [19:32] there a way that we're gonna be testing us to see exactly where we're at [19:45] Phil Entner: this time of year we can test with a couple of different ways the station's obviously have pumps in them and we can tell by run hours for starters we'll be able to to look at the seven different areas the collection areas at Elenin field where our worst ones are in we've previously we have done some work with Bolton Dominque to kind of dictate where are really bad areas are and we have a handful of of pretty bad ones and we were able to use a series of a dozen flow meters temporary flow meters that went into manholes themselves and we were able to measure flow from certain areas don't we have that really narrowed down no the biggest way to tell is going to be all [20:18] from our lift station pumps and our flow meters we do we do have a new flow meter and at the main lift station that's only a year and a half old and that alone just having operated technology there has has dropped our our collection which really wasn't our collection but it it was because we still have to report that to the state but even that alone has dropped it considerably I think Doug you and I we've talked about a few piping projects we've done in the past part of that wastewater project that helped dramatically the sump pump it's the inspection program we did that helped a lot and since we're on that topic anyone planning on doing any work in the basement or any work to a house at all it is there is an ordinance for some pumps they do belong to be [21:04] violated they do they cannot go to the sanitary I'm sure a building inspector would catch that but just good information for people to know but along with that I mean the entire purpose of that was to get people sump pumps out of a sanitary sewer but with our water break basically we are breaking our own organs and piping that into the sanitary sewer system to make it cheaper for when we actually fix the water break when the frost is out of the ground so when you talk about where are we with I and I I think it's great that we could do those things I think that as it stands right now it's it's all going to be incorrect [21:50] because we are being a water break into our sewer system right now which is bad but in the long run will save us money for fixing the water break so it's all kind of a give-and-take I mean last year I think you guys fixed water breaks for roughly a hundred and some thousand gallons and that correct next week you turn around you got a water break and we're pumping what two hundred thousand gallons a day again seventy-five some like that so I mean we went from 225 down to 130 ish back up to 175 I mean it just kind of you fix one thing another thing breaks so it's usually works good that you to answer your question up did thankful thank you thanks Phil [22:38] Mayor Jim Michalski: moving on to foresee technology library port Ellissa are you going to handle that I mean the report is in your packet on page 35 [22:50] Ellissa Owens: server backups are working the new firewall cw's been coming in doing a couple projects the new firewall will be scheduled for March 19th we did receive some of the new workstations and they're being installed the new IP address from the switch to Genesis though all the new IP addresses are are changed over it went really well for the city you know we kind of planned on it taking up an afternoon and I think it took like 45 minutes or something like that so it actually went really well for the city the voice over IP phones are installed [23:25] at the liquor store were working on security cameras in a couple locations for the Muni specifically there's website and social media data there that's about it I think the library report will we'll be looking for for that in probably the next month or two here to see the annual results from the library [23:45] Mayor Jim Michalski: so very good any questions comments during none we'll move on to for D city engineer nothing for right now very good one for the Chamber of Commerce updates [24:18] Chamber Representative: oh we've got the Easter egg hunt coming up on March 31st that's a Saturday at 10 o'clock it'll be at the new school and cafeteria [Music] the Kiwanis is taking over earth Easter egg hunt but the chamber is helping them this year and it last year too so and of course the Business Expo on April 21st that's a Saturday goes from 9 o'clock to 1 p.m. and tables are still available for those businesses that want to rent the table and show the kind of things that they offer and the last Thursday we had our Chamber meeting we had a cancel we were going to have a meeting of community leaders to see how we can help them promote their events and that was [25:11] the Monday we had all that snow so that was cancelled and it's been reset for Monday April 9th at 6 p.m. right here in the community center and I was just over at the Northwoods credit union they have a soft opening yet the rest of the week so you're welcome to stop in there and check it out it's a beautiful building very spacious and lots of offices to grow into they open up full time next Monday and expect a large crowd and they'll be having an open house and ribbon-cutting in the spring they haven't set a date yet and then thrifty white is going to be opening April 9 so I talked to the manager and there won't be a soft opening for that that's just [25:58] going to be the date that they open up so any questions hello thank you thank you [26:16] Mayor Jim Michalski: all right thank you moving on to four F liquid Committee report no does just move to 6 G and 6 H we added it there oh we're not going to do that the and effort I thought F was under committee hum sir good yeah I didn't know if we wanted mark wanted to talk about that we had a really good meeting or you want me didn't okay [26:45] Council Member Walter Lower III: well on March 1st we had our liquor committee meeting with the manager Mark Skelton at the liquor store I thought it was a very productive and informative meeting and Mark had a lot of information for us and and got us up to speed of things that [27:02] are coming in the future the things that we talked about were bills versus revenue report on how to track things so there's a better handle on on things and Mark came up with some ideas on how to do that as well as Ellissa we wanted to be able to track transfers for the record of on-and-off sales so we need to discuss those things so we could figure out a better way to do profit margins so it's it's an easier report for all of us and more I can track those things a lot easier we did talk about the inventory needs and making sure that we have the right people doing inventory and a consistent basis there's discussion about the cameras needed for the liquor store but we're talking about seven cameras were in the discussion talking [27:51] about replay fixing the letter q I believe on the liquor store has is still off and we need to have that taken care of there was some issues other concerns with a raffle from the Hockey Association not having to back up and and we felt that there's a need to have a backup for those things market brought up that there's been 35 Sundays of off sale so far since off sale has been a liquor store that's brought in $56,000 which is pretty amazing we also talked about signage needed for advertising that there is Sunday off sale right now and we think that it might be a good ideas for people that are coming through to say wow they're [28:37] actually open I'm gonna stop in the Moose Lake and grab that before I go on they had ten off-site uses of the liquor store which got in $5,600 and sales and then there's a st. Patrick's Day fourth of July 4th of July and some weddings coming up and you need raffle bingo so and then we'll go on with the other one that we have later on down the agenda is anything that I miss mark but thank you very much I was very informative yes thanks for coming mark [29:15] Council Member Douglas Juntunen: the cameras those are just for in-house Hughson they're not connected to the police department at all [29:22] Mark Skelton: again I just run your store I understand that that's not a possibility I'm talking to you these days because that was a good that's always been kind of an issue that people feel it's kind of entrapment if your cameras there but it's there is no just to get it clarified those cameras [29:45] Council Member Douglas Juntunen: right so they they will be on our server they can be in a different section then then the police department can view which I didn't know when I talked to you but they can be on a side note I I would say that our police department probably has some better things to do than then to watch TV and see people drinking I think [30:11] if they wanted to catch people drinking they would probably just wait outside the liquor store but we will set it up so that the police department I guess doesn't have access to it 24/7 if if that is what you guys want [30:25] Council Member Kris Huso: I know at least once a year somebody comes up to me and says you know they're sitting down there waiting for you to move your vehicle and they're you know monitoring them and I said no no they're not and I just like to crush those rumors if we could because I know it's least once a year I have somebody from the campground or somebody from Mary and now they're just sitting down the road waiting you know well no that's not the [30:57] case so if we could in for you know reinforce that make that B go better for business when I say something I evaded that but I think some camera like in the back door you know as maybe the employees are leaving sometimes that would be beneficial to have the police department being able to see that as they leave as you know the later hours just for safety reasons safety security [31:25] Mark Skelton: yeah the the patrons yeah I'm talking like after-hours closing so when you're [31:43] locking up or everybody's gone and there's just one or two people in there we've recently just got one exterior camera facing arrest and there's going to be one on the south the west as well and then winning the pack for not only but the rear of the building but deliveries as well yeah my concern is the employees being there after hours and thank you people still comment about how nice Astoria so again I thank you I can't imagine where we've been if we wouldn't we do so yeah thank you sir good [32:25] Mayor Jim Michalski: very good thank you any other questions from the council it's a good job mark thank you yeah [32:29] thank you very much all right moving on ten 6 G yeah so while wall marks here I thought we could go over 60 in sixty well okay so jump ahead and move ahead to 16 that way mark you have you can depart when you please geez general election ballot question Sunday on sale [33:16] Ellissa Owens: this was one of the items that came up at our liquor committee meeting as well was right now we are not allowed to sell on sale in the bar on Sundays if we wanted to change that that would need to be a question on a just a [33:16] general election which we have this year so I am wondering if the council would like to add that question to the general election ballot and if so may make a motion and I can research how to word that question and get it added yes [33:45] Council Member: I guess speaking for myself I as far as what we're seeing for off sale I think you know put it out there to the public to see what they say I understand how this operates now that we're able to sell it only makes sense that yep you make the full operation [34:02] say that's a good name good [34:10] Council Member Walter Lower III: I would I would like to see it on the general watching belt I'll make a motion that we put the Sunday on sale on the general election ballot [34:25] Council Member: I'll second it [34:30] Mayor Jim Michalski: open for any of the discussion questions I would just say under discussion I think we have our liquor store manager that has 30 plus years of experience has looked up this and said you know what it works on four off sale it makes sense for on sale so I would support that place do you have any input on this item [34:58] thank you any other questions by anyone all in favor say aye [35:05] Council Members: aye [35:06] Council Member Douglas Juntunen: I am gonna vote null for my own personal reasons [35:10] Mayor Jim Michalski: that's fine motion cade moving on to 6h and it hasn't done doeth management it's just it's just my own personal self under 6h general election ballot question additional intoxicating liquor licenses on sale only so the the number of on sale intoxicating liquor license is set originally just set by ordinance [35:45] and then any changes to it are required by again question on a ballot currently we have two intoxicating liquor license on sale only liquor license available not available we have them for the city one of them is is currently available and then one of them is used by the Muni this is not off sale so this does not allow anybody to to sell like the Muni sells off sale this would only be for on sale [36:20] Council Member Walter Lower III: Craig I don't know if you want to talk a little bit about kind of what your thoughts on it were other than I [36:30] will say that we do have one available right now I guess the on my part would be that for I think here would help as far as to attractive one or two more businesses for heating establishments and stuff like that because actually I didn't know that we had actually one extra but I forgot about that so but otherwise I would think two would be nice to have for if we can find somebody that's will under and build something for you no I mean we could use a couple nice places where you could go with Apple ass of wine and I could kneeling excuse me basically there's one and that's a half that's a mile down the road so if I can [37:15] Ellissa Owens: if I can clarify one thing [37:16] as to what this actually means this would only allow people to serve hard liquor so if somebody wanted to sell strong beer right now they are able to get a three to beer license they are also able to get a wine license neither one of those has any limits on the number that we give out if you have both you are allowed to sell strong beer or just normal beer and wine but you are still not allowed to sell hard alcohol so mixed drinks or shots or things like [38:02] that if we have we have one place in town right now pour Gary's is allowed to sell wine and strong beer because they have both licenses combined that like I said that enables them to sell regular normal strength beer if we were to move forward with this what would what we would be talking about is the sale of just intoxicating liquor which is your hard alcohol your shots your mixed drinks things like that [38:40] Council Member: does that have to be a general election ballot [38:45] Ellissa Owens: that is the only one that requires the public to be able to vote on it is the the sale of intoxicating liquor on sale that number [38:50] we originally set at - if we wanted to change it to three it does need to be on a ballot ask a question [39:05] Council Member Kris Huso: so how long have we had the tool I mean it must be forever so we moose correct but so they were the second one okay so since the Moose goes down okay in the last thirty five years or something I'm doing the split liquor we're a beer and intoxicating or separate I think it was referred to as splitting I don't I guess I wasn't around [39:36] Oh perhaps Indies I'm not sure okay but I believe it came to a tongue vote and that's what that was 35 years ago okay so then 35 years ago I came to came to be I'll take your word for it the price is right there was that the hilltop su Hill then also yeah set up it's just I think just the Moose was the only one that could - yeah so there [40:22] there are some weird things that allow people to sell strong beer though at the same time so if you call it a club technically a club can sell strong beer and they don't need the wine license and they're allowed to do it a hotel can have an intoxicating liquor license and they do not fall under our limits for the number that we have available so there's a bunch of weird regulations that go along with this but think of it more in the terms of what councilor serve Allah brought up which is and we kind of talked a little bit about this and this does not mean that all of garden is coming here but say a restaurant that's like a restaurant like Olive Garden okay people generally don't go to sit at [41:10] the bar at Olive Garden but they when they go there want to have a drink so it is a an establishment that probably does not compete with our municipal liquor store but it is an establishment where somebody might want a mix drink and be able to have dinner with it that would be why I would say why we would want to have an availability of liquor license this is the same argument that the East End of Duluth has is it was set up a long time ago that no intoxicating liquor license would be allowed in the East End of Duluth the reason that it came to a vote is because if you drive to the East End of Duluth you will notice that there are no restaurants aside from Sammy's Pizza there are no [41:56] restaurants in the East End and that's because nobody could serve alcohol so the purpose for the vote it was at two years ago was to allow intoxicating liquor license so that they could get a restaurant not a bar so that they could get a restaurant to me we are limited right now with what we're doing all votes for allowing another liquor license would have to come through here anyhow and I think it would not behoove us to cut our own throats and we having people go against our own liquor store but a restaurant perhaps would be a good idea so now would be the time to do that if we're thinking about doing that I don't [42:53] know how we left him and when you're talking about that I mean I know the Minnesota Department of Health does stuff for so I mentioned the three-two license with the wine license ko well the Minnesota Department of Health also says that you need to have a certain category of food license to be able to have the strong beer license through three two and wine so there's a certain qualification food wise that allows you to fall into that category or we could do is say that a certain percentage of your sales need to come from food would then meet kind of the qualification that we're talking about here the the flipside is is that there is absolutely nothing that says that we need to give anybody a liquor license you know we could we could set up a [43:40] bunch of regulations which we might want to do but there's also nothing that says that we need to give it out I guess one thing that one thing that I would say in looking at this is do we want to have two questions on one ballot about liquor do we need another liquor license right now if we have one available is this something that we need to do now or is it something that we could do possibly in the future [44:15] Council Member: what's your live does that have to go on a general ballot or can it be a special you know [44:20] Ellissa Owens: I don't I don't think that we would probably want to do it on a special ballot by itself but there is a general election every two years so even [44:28] if we kick the can down the road we wouldn't kick it down the road for years we would kick it down two years [44:40] Council Member: well my thought is I don't see something happening in truth you know necessarily between now and two years I could say something happening between now and two years I don't know that it would be to big time restaurants you know I think we have one of that's available right now I think we would probably be okay for right now [45:00] Council Member Douglas Juntunen: I guess my feeling is as I like to wait then as long as we have one available now and there's a general election every two years we could approach it in two years again if that one is some [45:10] Council Member Walter Lower III: I would I would like to see that and maybe doing this two years we could develop the protection of our own business because I would like to see it if it's if we can open like that I like to see in the restaurant setting so that we're not in direct competition with our normal business and it would be smart business plan to do it that way the one question sandy on CL I think that's something everybody's appropriate that's going ahead and for two years and timeless to develop that and we could look at what other communities have done to protect their businesses to give us a little bit of time and that's sort of like a two different concepts if you're [46:00] going to someplace to eat and stuff where I add or are you going to some place to have a drink and visit date and stuff like that and I've talked to people that use the liquor store and stuff in it and I've asked them about that part they said they don't go to liquor store they eat they go to the liquor store to associate with people and stuff like that when they go out to eat it's a whole different atmosphere right right [46:35] Mayor Jim Michalski: we have consensus them to wait on that second question yes yes okay we have consensus on it thank you thanks for input mark moving back to number five previously discussed [46:47] business we have 5a sales tax update [46:55] Ellissa Owens: we are four thousand one hundred and ninety one dollars and fourteen cents away from paying off our setup fee so we still didn't get paid but it does show what we would have gotten paid and if you average that over the course of 12 months it would be a little bit over $200,000 so once we start getting paid again I think things will be looking pretty good we do get yes we do get the initial payment but then we don't get the there's like a cleanup second payment okay we don't get that at every [47:36] three months or once a year once a month well twice a month we get an initial payment on the fifth of the month and then we get a cleanup payment yeah and I clean after that's it's covering paying off Denisha yeah so like the Department of Revenue says so on the 31st or a couple days after that sales tax is due for March so the state collects that and they give us an initial payment a little bit sooner and then once everybody has filed they give us our cleanup payment which is the remainder of what everybody paid in - their fees [48:45] Mayor Jim Michalski: questions by the council thank you under a 5 B selection of City Engineer [49:00] Ellissa Owens: the committee met with six different engineering firms that submitted applications I think we had a lot of qualified very good interviews the one that was selected by the committee was seh and that is the one that is their proposal is is in your packet and then on page 7:30 well search on page 57 is the agreement [49:12] so the committee is proposing seh we will also finish out any projects that we currently have started we will finish those with Bolton and mink not finish those with seh I did talk to Bolton and mink and seh kind of about that and both were agreeable to that and and would rather that it does work that way so yeah all right discussion action by the council [49:52] Council Member Douglas Juntunen: motion to use seh and entering this Agreement [49:58] Council Member: I'll second it [50:00] Mayor Jim Michalski: questions discussion by anyone um mr. administrator are you satisfied with the selection [50:10] Ellissa Owens: I am self yep very good [50:12] Mayor Jim Michalski: all right all in favor say aye aye opposed motion Kate when will this start it's got a date [50:20] Ellissa Owens: this will start tomorrow [50:22] Mayor Jim Michalski: under 5c contract for a building inspector [50:25] Ellissa Owens: this is a contract for the building official that I am proposing this is also the [50:39] building inspector that is taking over in Carlton and Wren shall we Katie and I met with him talked a little bit about how how it would work administrative ly with him as well as the fact that it'll be a little bit different you know one of the one of the really really nice things about Dwayne is that he's in town and inspections can happen you know on the weekend or at night or things like that so there will be a there will certainly be a difference if we move forward with with this building inspector they will have a dedicated day in Moose Lake but then also be willing to look at using [51:24] technology maybe a little bit more as a tool so my recommendation is that that we move forward with township and range LLC and this would start April 1st okay actually they are out of Duluth right [51:45] Council Member Walter Lower III: call make a motion we accept the contract for building official services for township and range LLC [51:55] Council Member: I'll second that no any questions discussions [52:05] Council Member Douglas Juntunen: so how are we paying them is it an hourly rate Dirk's by percentage of the job or [52:10] Ellissa Owens: it is by a couple different factors seventy-five percent of the building [52:11] inspection I'm sorry seventy-five percent of the building permit fee goes to the building inspector 100 percent of the plan review fee if there is one goes to the building inspector and then there is a monthly retainer that is for the day that that is spent with us on page 67 yeah number nine [52:45] Council Member Douglas Juntunen: so we're mainly paying them on a percentage of the job then instead of my hourly rate correct that was an issue I had with before you know because people can argue and say well the inspector will kick up the place of the [52:57] job so they make more money [53:05] Ellissa Owens: so there is I guess technically an opportunity for something like that for that argument to be made however our building permit fee is set by the city as far as the plan review fee goes generally those are your larger jobs a new home new commercial construction you know I I can't promise you that we're not gonna have those arguments I can I can just say that this this is a what 60-day notice agreement and we will we will certainly have some fine-tuning to do with any change that we make but [53:46] we're aware of it and you should what was the Stargate again April 1st it's just the start of the second quarter [54:05] Mayor Jim Michalski: all right any fear the questions comments by the council very none all in favor say aye aye opposed motion cade under your 5d Menace the Minnesota municipal clerks and Finance Officer annual conference [54:22] Ellissa Owens: I just wanted to remind everyone that I will be gone Tuesday Wednesday Thursday Friday of next week but I will have my cell phone and I will gladly probably answer it probably [54:35] Mayor Jim Michalski: very good thank you [54:35] for the information moving on to number six new business 6a Mercy Hospital annual report that starts on page 69 yeah John one asked that I include this in here and then he also asked to present I'm not sure if he thought the meeting was at 6:30 or not but the annual reports in here [Music] yeah if you have any questions I can I can send them forth thank you thank you yeah pretty much general very easy to go over all right thank you and in your [55:25] business 6bl BAE April 5th 2018 at 11:00 a.m. that would be the local board of appeals that currently there's one person certified and just I did attempt to go on but you cannot do it online any more big the cutoff was back a little ways so ideally mail so death I did attempt it did well i temperatures takes a while to try i'll reattempt after so you just to be clear you cannot be gone that day you you have to be there otherwise we cannot have that meeting what time does Mike have to be lemon [56:11] a.m. Brice 10:30 a.m. on April 5th what lunch be here at 10:30 thank you mm-hmm 6 e ferric acid excuse me chloride acid quote [56:45] Mayor Jim Michalski: yeah ferric chloride acid is is for the phosphorus removal at the wastewater site I got yeah I don't know what this is so if you have any questions Phil can answer those you need that alright need a motion on this we do yep [56:58] what is that total cost of looking at this is 71 now 15 $3.00 15 per guy it's it it depends on how much we need to order which we probably won't know until we start sampling and until we're done right [57:25] Ellissa Owens: I will say that we do have a budget line item for chemicals at the pond so we're just debating the dollar 15 per gallon we are basically approving the chemical provider at this rate which we only get chemicals from one place so you're approving Hawkins at this rate [57:40] Council Member: I'll make that motion we approve Hawkins for the at that rate present parent clover second [57:50] Council Member Kris Huso: this just a question but I mean wouldn't this just be a normal person wouldn't need to come here [58:00] Ellissa Owens: no because it's I will it will end up between the two we will end up spending I think we budgeted 17 18 thousand dollars for four chemicals I'm allowed to spend up to fifteen hundred dollars without coming here so this will be over my threshold [58:15] Mayor Jim Michalski: all right yeah I don't think we've ever done it's in the past that's because we only started treating last year and we [58:20] brought this here house ritual was fifteen dollars dead be fine - all right all in favor say aye [58:30] aye opposed motion carried 16 herbicide for pawns quote I'll just speak that motion is obviously something we need to treat the pawns so I'm sorry go ahead you have a second [58:50] Council Member: I'll second it [58:55] Mayor Jim Michalski: and it is for No already gallons okay all in favor say aye opposed motion carries 6e motor vehicle dis legislative update [59:10] Ellissa Owens: I wanted to include this cannon from the DMV brought brought this to me this is from their lobbyist that works down there I think it's a really good letter one of the one of the [59:18] issues that we have is is basically the percentage of what we bring in what portion goes to the state and which portion do we get to keep this letter talks a little bit about their request to change how that is allocated one of the things that I found interesting in here was that they thought that the about forty percent more work overall is now being handled by deputies which if you look at our budget for the DMV we do well over a million dollars in revenue in the DMV and we [1:00:03] we don't even cover our costs and our costs are very very very minimal if we even kept 10% more of what we had coming through our office we would make a ton of money I mean I we don't even need to keep 10% more if we kept 2% more we would be fine and the state is unwilling to to change the fees because they thought that it was unfair to have the citizens of Minnesota both pay for the new system and then pay for additional time for the deputies which is insane hopefully they will they will allocate more of more percentage to [1:00:48] the deputies but I don't really see that happening either so so in essence no change just I just heard today that the head of this department is no longer with them yep there's gonna be some changes yeah they are they're asking the legislature right now for ten million dollars which is just a bridge to the total which i think is forty three million dollars that they're asking for and if they don't get the ten million dollars by the end of March all of their contractors their contracts will be up and nobody will be working on fixing all the issues that are wrong with this so it's good times in the DMV right now I've been there pencils will [1:01:37] be back to pencil and paper mm-hmm [1:01:45] Mayor Jim Michalski: all right thank you very much 6 fkd be repeated for DMV yeah she do you know exactly what we're approving [1:02:00] Ellissa Owens: she needs to get fingerprinted and background checks so that she can do license stuff so become like kept being like gene divya and they're over overcrowded and yeah yeah so would that be with the police department fingerprinted just okay [1:02:25] okay rice always offers to do mine for free just take a ride in the back of his squad friends Katie's fine with it and okay [1:02:45] Mayor Jim Michalski: we need a motion from the council also move in a second all in favor say aye aye opposed motion Kade we've already done G and H so we'll move on to 6 i fund 120 city redevelopment fund [1:03:10] [1:03:15] Ellissa Owens: in the minutes of the Economic Development Authority meeting you can read more about this but fund 120 is the city's redevelopment fund it was created for a revolving loan fund and then supplemented when Pat had submitted the small city's development grants that program is now done and we are collecting back on those loans so fund 120 is basically where this money is going and outside of me no group is really responsible for for this money or or doing something in the future with this money what the Economic Development Authority is asking and I am asking is that we give oversight to the [1:03:58] economic development authority over these funds they will still make recommendations to the council but at least there will be a committee that provides oversight and guidance as to the use of these funds okay final decision comes back here and yeah yeah so you can see just on this sheet of paper how much money we're talking about you know there's $20,000 in there right now $45,000 is still owed on outstanding loans we're not talking about a ton of money but there is there is money there [1:04:30] Mayor Jim Michalski: very good you have a motion [1:04:35] Council Member: so moved [1:04:36] Mayor Jim Michalski: have a second [1:04:37] Council Member: second [1:04:38] Mayor Jim Michalski: questions discussion [1:04:40] Council Member Kris Huso: so this is a joint powers [1:04:43] agreement with the ability to have a treasurer whatever to those funds are call you well [1:04:50] Ellissa Owens: the Economic Development Authority has a treasurer and you have a treasurer and they're the same treasurer but more so what will end up happening and what we kind of talked about at today's meeting was I'd like the Economic Development Authority to kind of come up with new ways to use this money and at least there's a committee not just me thinking of ways to use this money and then they would make that recommendation of how to use this money and then once if the City Council approve that then they could just provide the oversight the day-to-day oversight and we wouldn't need to bring it to the council every time that we used those funds the way that the EDA [1:05:30] and the council approved yep [1:05:35] Mayor Jim Michalski: that's why I thought it was covered already in that joint powers agreement that we already yep okay all right we do have a motion in a second no further questions all in favor say aye under 6j polyMet mine letter and that is on page 77 you know she lied that called me requested that this be in the council packet and it is it's about concern for environmental effects that the polyMet copper nickel sulfur mine poses to our [1:06:17] communities so it's in there for the council's purview any questions or comments from anyone if you don't write it you can call Jim [1:06:37] Louis I shouldn't see that call Katie he's not what we seek in life everything goes to cage yeah oh hey she's sharp where she makes the big bucks moving on to 6 K tax study public hearing April 11th 2018 at 6:00 this is a reminder on the study done on the township tax day for any further comments questions if not we'll move on to the edition 6l [1:07:27] which was old school [1:07:30] Council Member Douglas Juntunen: thanks mayor so I'm just wanted to clarify this so we bought the playground equipment at the school we did did we ever get to see work where the new line so for your property is or means [1:08:05] Ellissa Owens: I don't know if I brought that to the City Council or not but it's it borders it borders the playground as well as we purchased the garage that's there and then we have an easement on the driveway that that goes back through there so I am not certain if I brought the map of it or not I have a copy of [1:08:16] the map if you'd like to see it [1:08:25] Council Member Douglas Juntunen: then that easement and that would cover the water line going to that hydrant back there too then [1:08:40] Ellissa Owens: I don't know if it covers the water line but the easement that we have is more in access easement anyways so the easement they couldn't build there anyhow right right that sort of makes them easier for them to build if they know where they can and because that there's a two inch water line that goes off that hydrant that goes to our bathrooms no there so that's why I was has some concerns and then my other concern was that they were under he's been like I remember that from years ago and we did that that that definitely an easement [1:09:02] there that's protected I don't know what the hydrant but I know the water line I think that but now we own that one correct [1:09:20] Council Member Douglas Juntunen: well my other question is for wellhead protection you know the standard is that you're supposed to own you know 50 feet around your wellhead then before I don't think it was an issue because it's all public property and we're working with them is that going to be up something we need to look at moving towards the channel so no one can build anything within that 50 feet of the lake 50 feet around your wellhead so that being to the parking lot in that easement you attack them out for access down into [1:09:49] that that area and it's just a rule that they have so you don't get any type of contamination going into your wellhead it basically is what I guess I would say that we would probably need to review any building permits that does I take place anywhere near that yeah over there then then the rest we use negotiated and for any other properties there the red Pines or the the baseball field and stuff [1:10:30] Ellissa Owens: well according to the paper I did not but we we talked about the baseball field we [1:10:34] talked about I was approached by people from the Little League Association as well about wanting the the upper baseball field actually I would love if the city had the upper baseball field instead of the lower one it would be quite costly to change that from basically it has different dimensions for Little League than it does for high school the pitching mound is in the wrong place the the bases are there's the fences all of that stuff there's no parking lot that we we have access to there are a number of things that that would make it costly for us to take ownership of that baseball field without literally kicking in money and the school kicking in money to do it so what [1:11:22] Bob and I had talked about was as they look at plans for building out the remainder of their athletic complex up there the hope is is that they use the funds from the purchase of the existing baseball field as well as the school put some of that money towards the athletic complex and build additional baseball fields up there we thought it would be a better use of money and just land to have all of those athletic fields together including baseball fields for a little leak I would love to take the Little League field out that the lower one and have it as a part of a another complex because we could expand our [1:12:09] campground that was kind of my initial thought for the upper baseball field as well was to turn that into a Little League field expand the campground it didn't really didn't really work for for us to keep the upper baseball field did we did we negotiate any other land [1:12:25] Council Member Douglas Juntunen: no you know I was under the understanding you're negotiating for all all that the whole school the properties back there you are looking at it because we even talked about the the tennis courts osteo you're looking at that and you said right away we can't afford it and I guess my point is here as administrator you're supposed to negotiate but we're [1:12:55] supposed to be making those decisions I agree with you that that's all I wanted to say on that so thank you there's confusion on that tennis courts also at one time we thought we owned the tennis courts we did under you know the whole thing was under I know McKee it's a grant for the city and then the city split that up gave some to the school so and again little by little every time they add it on the city gave in and actually gave them properties there you know we didn't charge them for it when I was on the park where they we gave them the property there and I know some of [1:13:42] the and when I'm asking about the Lions is some of the camper sites are on school property back in the old you know with the old survey not not anymore that's why I want to just to see that if I can does it make sure we're square we don't lose any camp in sight sir did you want to bring up discussion on that tennis courts it's too late is already you know for my understanding everything's all sold already no you're not getting to school so antenna sports there's a purchase going on in discussion with it I don't know where [1:14:28] they're at right now and that's that's kind of an air ball park no way to pay for they move to sell it to Phoenix companies so the purchases is said to go through this summer yeah yeah that's all I had it's just a you know I'm pretty sure everything's water under the bridge and I just want to make sure we have if we're gonna catch heck for something it's our decision that's what I'm saying [1:15:10] Mayor Jim Michalski: one point I was under the impression [1:15:14] that from there are well ahead through the tennis courts and all those Pines was City property but we let the school use the tennis courts and that's why I wanted to see the lies I believe it goes right around the tennis courts that's what you're thinking that tennis courts were given to the school because at one time I was an impression that line went followed that we're on the courts and then the garage was on school property but all those Pines behind it was City and that one portion where the playground is was requested from the school to put a playground there and was [1:16:00] transferred to them so I when you were talking about pines were you talking about those are we talking about the school forest the red [1:16:15] Council Member Douglas Juntunen: yeah the school Forest okay area tool and that is definitely owned by the school that all those trees yeah we the old property line was about three foot off of the old football field you know by that little league yeah was about three feet off of that fence line and then straight through the pines there that was not yeah you know lot line there that when I go don't look at all that to see what is this in has yet we had to get it surveyed for the Jason [1:16:46] so we can look at it was all surveyed for the sale of the playground and for the shed so the map stroll all definitely showed tennis courts in this school property yes had to be transferred at some point then okay did you have anything else Mike you're under bring up anything from the council no Tim anything I do that yeah thank you moving on to number seventy ports and conduct correspondence they don't have anything in it at this point is that correct no okay moving on to number eight committee and board meeting minutes excuse me it aims like water in [1:17:35] light organizational meeting minutes January 17th 8b moves like water light meeting minutes January 17th 8c moves like water and light special meeting minutes January 26th ad Moose Lake Park board meeting then it's February 5th and 8th e Moose Lake Economic Development Authority meeting minutes February 14th to have any questions or discussion on any of the committee or board meeting minutes [1:18:15] Council Member: well I did I in the park board eight days they're going to do that at the Riverside arena the Stampede or the [1:18:21] which part of the set up the gem show of course the old schools not available and they looked at the new school they were gonna move it but then it was kind of being shifted to the garage up there and then the suggestion was made about the arena and they took a look at the green you're very happy with it and it does move it closer to downtown that way for the people can go from the Stampede to the arena or back just made more sense and we'll see how that works this year my space down there we're good [1:19:00] Mayor Jim Michalski: any other questions on the committee of board meeting minutes you know motion so we will move on on those number nine announcements regular Moose Lake City Council meeting Wednesday April 11th at 4 p.m. right here moose lake water light Commission regular meeting Wednesday March 20th 3 p.m. in the water and light office see your board room is set up now again evidently ok moose lake housing Redevelopment Authority board April 9th at 11:00 a.m. at the hillside Manor office Moose Lake area Fire District this is Tuesday April 11th Zek [1:19:53] correct loss I thought there's a change okay right okay Tuesday April temp the moon see response center most like park board meeting Monday April safety second scuse me 6:30 p.m. right here library board meeting April 9th 1:45 p.m. City conference room Moose Lake Technology Committee Thursday April 5th 9 a.m. in the conference room any other good the [1:20:41] fact that I needed to adjourn I mean a motion to adjourn excuse no moved for a second second any questions so in favor say aye aye opposed adjourned [1:21:03] [Music]