e e e e e e e e e e guys e [Music] yeah e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e good morning Madame mayor right on time I told him we'd start at 10: okay um I appreciate everyone's patience we were waiting for some council members some of us were at the morning prayer breakfast so um Madam clerk I just for the record Wednesday May 8th 2024 we are going to officially start the meeting and by the way congratulations it's officially what do they call it national clerks Appreciation Week it is and that's why uh council member Reese over there donuts brought us Donuts this morning thank you for that and also uh is sporting the Western attire as the clerk's office is rock and Country Western Wednesday so okay thank you for that I feel like I didn't get the memo what happened let's blame uh ACM tney for that one is that I didn't get the memo either like all right would have been there next Wednesday I guess all right well um congratulations and happy National Clerk's week thank you for all you do you're amazing Madam clerk you may want to our mic seem particularly low today I'm just sharing we will have it turn that up thank you uh let's see okay we are going to start with the pledge allegiance what is your name young man you look like a future mayor Blake Blake would you like to lead us in the pledge this morning okay aliance to the flag of the United States of America to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all good job Blake all right Madam clerk I'm going to send it right back to you uh for roll call thank you madam mayor we're calling rooll for Wednesday May 8th Reno city council meeting council member breus I'm here dur Martinez here Ebert absent at this time Taylor here Rees here shivi here Madame mayor you do have a quorum of the Rena city council okay thank you so much at this time I'm going to send it back to you for public comment but I do want to give an update uh from councilwoman Durer yes I've sort of tasked you with this yes you've been working on a long time so please give us an update um this is uh in regard to those of you who are here for horses either present or on Zoom um I do have an update um the mayor uh myself and council member ree worked very diligently uh with the developer to explain to them the challenging issues with horses and the developer has agreed to open the gates on a temporary basis until we are able to create uh alternate water supplies for the horses um and so this is a very critical and important change because without the water the horses would be have been injured uh possibly died um there's very little water in the Virginia range and so it was very very important to us that access to the water be made um we don't know how long this will last we don't know how long it will take to create alternate water supplies and I'm just going to because I can't comment later I just want to give an analogy and I I hope this resonates um I'm chair of the waso county animal Advisory Board and one of the issues that we deal with there is feral cats and I mentioned it because feral cats are cats that have escaped in our inner environment and um what we do to handle them many people aren't in fans of feral clats but what we do to handle them is we trap them we neuter them and we release them back to their environment right now there's an ongoing program to uh with pzp to reduce the horse population just like we are working to reduce the feral cat population so I just wanted to create an analogy and also think about we as humans uh we believe at least in City Areno I know in treating all animals humanely uh whether you love them or don't love them they're important to our world and so that is the um stance that we've taken um as a as an organization and so I just wanted to share that and thank again the developer and their representatives for working with us to remed the situation so thank you all right thank you so much I really appreciate that okay we are going to head into a couple proclamations Madam clerk before we start our public comment and I would love to call up Isabella Bowman come on up for older Americans month and Terry Brooks yes featuring Terry Brooks hello okay whereas the older adults at the city of REO are esteemed members of our community embodying a wealth of knowledge experience and resilience and whereas their contributions to the vibrancy and strength of our city are immeasurable enriching the lives of across generations and whereas the month of May is designated as older Americans month providing an opportunity for our city to honor and celebrate the older American older adults Among Us and whereas this year's theme powered by connection highlights the importance of fostering meaningful connections among older adults their families caregivers and communities and whereas through the power of connection we acknowledge the strength that comes from building and nurturing intergenerational relationships friendships and support networks and whereas we reaffirm our commitment to ensuring that older adults in our city have access to the resources support and opportunities they need to lead fulfilling lives now therefore I Isabella Bowman on half of Hillary shivi mayor of the City of Reno Nevada do hereby declare May 2024 older Americans month wow you nailed it very good job usually people forget to put their name in and put my name in which confuses them Terry you have a poem for us yes I do the senior poetry Workshop meets regularly together where we can all discuss poetry and share our thoughts with each other each time we meet together we will choose a subject and then we will each write a poem about that subject the next time we meet we'll take turns reading our poems and then pick another subject for us to write more poems we meet on the second Monday of each month at 1 p.m. in the afternoon at the 9th Street senior center in the conference room and it's a lot of fun too are you enjoying it oh yeah okay that's all that matters all right thanks you guys congratulations M mayor all right Megan burner Madam mayor Megan is coming forward can I just say I want to thank my colleague from W four for her work with the senior community she's really elevated the work of that uh subcommittee and especially uh interesting of late has been the cooking classes which have been very well received and I think people are having a lot of fun yeah it's a great thanks thanks for shouting that out yeah it's been a lot of fun so don't miss the cooking class yeah May 30th everyone hey there you go hi good morning Meg burner arts and culture manager um I just want to say a big thank you to our historic preservation team our current historic preservation team um really the force behind it Melissa hay but we also have a special guest here today that's going to read the proclamation for us um Lily who has served as our intern for this semester so I'm going to turn it over to her hello whereas historic preservation is an effective tool for promoting sustainable development revitalizing neighborhoods fostering local Pride promoting tourism and maintaining Community character and whereas it is important to acknowledge and celebrate the many benefits of History architecture and archaeology in our lives and the contributions made by dedicated individuals in helping to preserve the tangible and intangible aspects of the Heritage that have shaped the City of Reno and whereas historic preservation can be the center of community discussion uniting residents behind an important cause and the month of May is National Historic preservation month in the City of Reno historical Resources Commission is holding the annual City of Reno historical preservation awards ceremony on May 9th 2024 now therefore I Lily mock on behalf of Hillary shivi May mayor of the city of Nevada City of Reno Nevada do hereby declare May 2024 as historic preservation month fantastic great job you guys nailed it amazing good job well thank you so much all right Madam clerk I'm going to send it right back to you thank you madam mayor so our first item today is opening public comment members of the public may hear observe and provide public comment virtually by registering through the following link which can be found on reno.gov meetings https colli i n KS period r e n o period G oov SL capital c o u n c i l 05 hyphen 08 it should be noted for those in the audience that comments are to be addressed to the mayor and Council as a whole comments heard under this item will be limited to 3 minutes per person and may pertain to matters both on and off the council's agenda Council may not take action upon any matter not agendized on today's agenda when you're called on for public comment please state your name for the record and begin speaking the timer will begin when you say your name and you will be afforded 3 minutes for those participating in Chambers in accordance with Council rules 6.3.1 one while in this room please be respectful disrupted behavior from audience members like clapping yelling whistling Etc which impede the meeting May result in a warning issued by the presiding officer if the behavior continues you may be removed from chambers if you're an attendee in the zoom meeting and would like to make public comment please raise your hand at this time for the audience we do have um just about 40 public comments this morning so please be prepared to come up so that we can make timely comments our first commenter today is Dora Martinez followed by Jerry miid followed by Terry Brooks good morning Dora is it already on so you'll speak it's a pleasure to have you usually Zoom yes um thank you so much good morning U Madame mayor and the council and the amazing clerk whom I think was watching me trying to figure out where I'll be and then she goes I can somebody can help you I'm like okay let's stress so um thank you and I'm so sorry for my attire I just came from the gym couldn't drive any I don't think anybody wants me to drive um so my dog can um so Madame mayor I I want to thank again for Miss Lauren Morris um Devon Ree and the clerk um I was oh my gosh I was trying to see the um I think it's the housing um item and it's not very accessible and it's needs some um accessibility Improvement um and so we're going to work on that and and um it just concerns me because I know that the bill was passed to do affordable housing and a lot of people who are on SSI SSDI and um seniors who are on um a fixed income cannot really manage the 60% so we're hoping that maybe you could lower the Ami to maybe 30 or 40 so people could you know um choose to pay rent and buy food um another thing is and I hope you guys will hear our us because we are really are struggling especially with the transportation and and everything else um I want to thank you from the last meeting uh I think it's before I went to Jersey to get my dog you were talking about the city uh sidewalks and the lights um not that I need them but it is good to have so people who are driving can see us walking and crossing the streets and I want to thank Mr khil Wilson for getting in touch with the ndot regarding the sidewalk that I talked about last time and the stripes on Mayan and McCaron and I'm sorry if I'm going off here you're doing great you're doing great cuz I look at this this is our access update so you just keep going yeah okay um and I want to thank um the security guard who helped us go to the bathroom and I swear I went to the men's bathroom I didn't see anything trust me Dora I love your sense of humor but um I want to than the I want to thank the people um that screened us that they didn't have a hard time my dog and didn't make me take off the harness so thank God thank you I hope the TSA hears this yeah so I thank you so much I'm GNA sit now no amazing job everyone give Dora a huge round of applause she is one of our biggest champions for Access and Dora just really quick let me ask you a question um I hope that these agenda items are coming to the access Advisory Board and are you having those conversations because we really need you guys to weigh in cuz you make some great great points hopefully they will come okay and then last week you'll be proud to know I was in Washington lobbying for those Amis so we're going to keep keep pushing so thank you so much thank you and you look fantastic thank you all right Jerry mith said followed by Terry Brooks followed by Eric laroe right I perfect thank you that's all I want you do good morning Jerry this how you do it I love it are we still friends you have something you can hold on to up here thank you C can you uh can you Mickey Mick chair can you blow that up please okay thank you thank you for for your help not that I needed it but it's nice to always have good morning mayor and the city council team dreams work with teamwork so let's work together for the city of auor um people have given me things to say um the freeway coming in from Carson City is littered with garbage on each side of the highway are creating an obstruction if this is the entrance to your city our city it's a really bad first foot forward so see what we can do with the highway department um the code the code people and uh the parks people that's uh Alex and Nathan they both lack Manpower and they're doing a great job and um I would give them not an incentive raise but a gratit ude Rays for the dedication and work that both these men and their teams do 7 to 900 calls the code people get a day a a month you got three people going out there you got Woodley rice and and another fellow Zach and Dany answering the phones uh Nathan is doing a hell of a job but he needs needs more people to uh to help with the parks let's call this make group REO green again sounds like Trump okay um I I live at this this uh the Carville Park apartment senior apartments Hillary and um they provide that's on Carville Drive the waiting list is full and that's their card uh they provide a complimentary way for a senior to enjoy his independent lifestyle this we're Independent Living uh if it wasn't for HUD we'd be on the street uh the Carval Park Apartments are a Section 8 to ensure a wholesome environment the ownership is senior friendly the management has a young lady that is compassionate and smart and and cares about seniors a lot her office staff um deals with the tenants in a very special patient and caring manner the maintenance crew do a hell of a job of keeping the place beautiful I I recently present have uh presented legal complications there and um I hope that um I could work things out so I could spend my remaining days uh there in this wholesome environment that's clean uh maintenance takes care and fixes everything um I I'm working directly with the w County Senior Aid people to help mediate any differences I have so we could come to a friendly amical amicable solution uh and I I know that I'm a little bit difficult to deal with but I'm a nice guy in the end am I not Hillary you're very nice and you're not very you're not difficult my friend and we will reach out to the state of Nevada because it's their Highway and we will let them know okay and thank you very much for letting me knowy to Alex andan Terry Brooks followed by Eric lud followed by Charles Albright yes do please good morning it's me Terry Brooks again and today I'd like to share my presentation about culture and housing when it comes to discrimination a lot of people of the same culture are sometimes like birds of a feather so they often live in places where they can all be together and sometimes if people of a different culture try to move there they may be discriminated against and then have to move out of there it could be because of the country that they're from some see a different culture as a Beat from A Different Drum or it could be because of the language that they use a language that others don't want to listen to or use sometimes it could be because of their religious beliefs or sometimes it could be because of a lack of such beliefs and if property is owned by someone of one culture they may not want to sell a rent to someone of a different culture all cultures are different in a lot of ways just like all people are different in a lot of ways but when a different cultures live together the more they each Express then they become more more open-minded and the more they all progress when people are discriminated against that's a lot for them to Bear but when people care about each other there is a lot to share respecting each other leads to getting to know each other and the more people know each other the more they learn from each other the more diversity that there is in a neighborhood then the more knowledge is gained in that neighborhood it's a beautiful day in the neighborhood when you treat everyone like a neighbor it's a beautiful day in the neighborhood when everyone treats you like a neighbor I would like to thank you all for listening to me today and I'll come back to this neighborhood because I got a lot more to say great job great job in the words of Mr Rogers Eric laroe followed by Charles Albright followed by Tanya Tovar good morning Madame mayor and members of the city council my name name is Eric lude and I'm here today representing the downtown renal partnership business improvement district I'm a member of their board I'm one of two members who represents downtown residents I live in the Montage and uh by the way I'm also a third generation Reena white as you are aware there is great interest in having more RPD and code enforcement Personnel uh working in the downtown area not only during the daytime but also during the nighttime we want to thank you for your recognition of the need for increased police and code enforcement presence and everything that you're doing to make that a reality uh downtown's looking better every day there appears to be less crime occurring and just as important having more RPD and code enforcement presence in enforcement will help counter the perception of crime going on in downtown Reno so thank you thanks also to you for your support of the downtown Reno partnersh board uh and the down the downtown Reno partnership as a whole and continuing to include the downtown Reno partnership in your budget uh the DRP makes many positive contributions to downtown Reno making downtown Reno more safe and more clean I attend mon monthly Safety and Security meetings with representatives of the police code enforcement washa County Sheriffs UNR police Casino security and other stakeholders I also attend monthly meetings uh maintenance meetings with City of Reno Public Works officials and Parks officials there are so many people who are collaborating to make downtown Reno better and it's and it's working um and it makes me feel a lot better about downtown and I know plenty of the other people who visit downtown and who live in downtown the DRP does a really good job of providing lots of details about all the work they do to make downtown you know more safe and more clean please please um I hope you're checking their website and you're getting their monthly e newsletter uh they share lots of Statistics including how much trash they pick up how many uh shopping carts they pick up um how many how often the ambassadors are giving rides to uh to people who need help to get to Services um we do pressure washing we do all all kinds of things and the DRP is also looking to do more with your help which you are providing to us including adding eight licensed security ambassadors and PCH purchasing an additional pressure washing piece of equipment so thank you for your assistance again with the budget it's always great of course to see the ambassadors moving around downtown Areno I'm sure you see them they have a very challenging job and please whenever you see them tell them thank you because they really are making a great contribution to downtown Reno thank you all for your service to this City bro yeah thank you so much um I know you've been a massive Champion I really really appreciate it and especially in the Montage they're singing your Praises over there and you know in my job usually all I hear is the bad things and I'm hearing the good things about you so thank you so much ER and then um just really quick I'm going to assume that your dad is the ever so famous Warren correct yeah okay and I went to school with your sister this is how small Reno is there are small circles I think we're all related in so that's right people mention my dad I always have to ask him did you get a good grade or bad grade because I never know which way they're going to which way he gave him a grade I love it wonderful wonderful family thank you so much Charles Albright followed by Tanya Tovar followed by Larry Weiss hello again Charles Albright River Advocate yes I'm here to support uh the one your agenda items D2 and D3 today with regards to Brick Park and stuff like that I'm also urging you to uh continue to improve uh the river life and all the issues along it by following the one trucky River plan and their their goals and to create long-term Capital inest Improvements if at all possible for that as far as other stuff I came last time and said hey we got some rafting trips coming I ran into Devon yesterday and used bummed that he didn't know about it but we have spaces left on the May four 15th and uh so if you can please come out and I can get an ex raft if you want to make it a good group so anyway so that's basically what I'm all about and we discussed I had people from was County Sparks and Reno yesterday on the river and it was a really good trip wonderful level and all that semiwarm but wet because of splashing so but anyways uh please take advantage of that and then also I want you to know that I counted 23 homeless camps from Lake Street down to Rock Park and uh surprisingly I saw two actually three in Sparks which is unusual so and other things is I talked to you in the past about dams you own them along with Sparks and Reno or Sparks and waso excuse me and they really are a hazard they also the river is not getting any better with them taking river water out and destroying the fisheries and the shoreline habitats of those locations so I kind of hope that you would look at the mathematics that is involved with what's going on with Tama and those dams whether they're making money or not and consider the fact that it' be so nice to have a free flowing river yeah okay totally and then uh what else free flying Rivers also um got to have some other stuff in my head but I think it's gone now so but thank you very much for your time and uh hope that you'll get a chance to come out and paddle maybe I got 57 seconds to figure out what to say so but Charles I'll help you out a little bit um I I will say that we're going to try and make those dates work for us for our wet team but Abby and our office is working with our fire chief to make those happen and of course the mayor has promised that she's going to float the river this time with me as well my go is that right mayor shivi I I'm having anxiety over it because Charles just so everyone knows is no joke I mean everyone that goes with you Charles is like that guy is amazing and you just go down that River like nobody's business cuz sometimes can be really challenging and even our firefighters are like that guy should be on our team yeah oh thank you love you Charles can tell a story about my concerned nervous there's one uh you probably know Matt Peak is fireman lives on on California now he's got there's a big tree log lodged sideways in the middle of the river right behind his house so if you want to see about getting that cut out it' be great thank you for your time okay that would be great and then just so you know you need to follow us because remember my promise on the river range yeah we're getting those good so follow along yeah good I had help from Nathan with that okay thank you so much Tanya Tovar followed by Larry Weiss followed by Tracy sandon hi my name is Tanya tavar and I'm a wild horse Advocate and this is regarding the issue on the um the fence that is blocking off the horses from water what I'd like to just say is I have found this on the website of the developers um let me just put my glasses on here so I can read so I can see um first of all I would like to remind the developers what they have written on their website Sunny Hills rancheros or Ranchos excuse me.org preserve Wildlife corridors one half of the Sunny Hills West Property will be preserved open space totaling approximately 2100 Acres this will provide opportunities for continuous Wildlife corridors through the property uh best practices for preservation of Wildlife and horses will be incorporated so I just wanted to say that was what they said before so hopefully they stick to that now and you know leave open space for our horses that's I have to say thank you so much thanks appreciate it Tracy Sanden followed by Gary coaster followed by Scott hilderbrand good morning Tracy sandon I live in ward 6 and uh I am very much in love with these range horses I was not going to say that I'm a volunteer with the Wild Horse uh groups but I am and I've been out there with them and I've looked them in the eye and I've fed them and I've done diversionary feeding I've been there when they've been put down because they've been head by a car so what I wanted to impart to you is that it's nice that the developers are leaving a 12T fence open for the horses but the devil's in the details there's a large herd out there there's a lot of water uh available to them and they need to get to it so we can train them to go through that gate but it's really not enough the only other opening is a really small uh little cut in the in the uh Creek that's uh further north towards Sparks one of the things that I think would be great to do and Naomi you've been working on this for a long time is opening up the North Area and developing that area that needs to be done probably sooner than later as the developers are working to get this development open um also funding the South Reno fencing project I think you're well aware of of that project and so we'd love to see that move forward quickly um it would keep the horses out of neighborhood yards in the summer it's very green the grass is wonderful uh there's Greenery along the roadways going through the neighborhoods and um there's also speeding vehicles that we tend to have a problem with so um it would be great if we could address those things in conjunction with what's going on here um and I would keep an eye on the developer not that I don't trust them um but there are times when as they're developing the horses are skittish they're not going to walk right through that 12T fence if there's machinery and people right there in front of it so it's where the fencing opens that really needs to be taken into consideration and that's really all I have for you today okay thank you so much I'm going to hand it over to um vice mayor der to address some of those things and I just want to point out um and I know our attorneys hate it when we do this we're not supposed to aine um in any public comment uh they it can get us in trouble with open meeting law a lot of people don't know about that but anyway um I do want you to address it but just so everyone knows typically um they frown upon it and uh sure and so but I do want you to because it's not on the agenda today so I I don't know if you explained that to can simply put it out yeah it's not on the agenda so I want everyone to know yeah just just for everyone's benefit um for about 6 months um we have been working on an arpa that's a ferally funded project to fence the gaps uh in the existing fence all the way from Hidden Valley down to guer grade so most of those areas are fence but there's a big section of three miles between about Kenneth way and guer grade that's not uh secondly we've been working south of Geer grade to continue fencing from Geer grade all the way to uh roads Road the issues are we need a lot of cattle guards and so that has driven up the cost so we don't have the full funding needed for the whole project we have about half and our staff have uh pledged to put it on the May 22nd Council agenda to uh look for alternate funding sources to complete the project so that's number one and number two the first issue you brought up as part of that there's an illegal fence on the BLM property we've gotten a permit worked with BLM to remove that and move that to the other side of the creek and so I have asked our staff and they're working on it to expedite uh the project that's in the north which is relocating the fence which is broken in parts and in wrong locations and parts to allow an additional access point it won't solve everything just like no one watering area will solve everything but it'll be an additional resource so thank you madam mayor and just real quickly the um Washo Lake um the NDA is talking about fencing that off as well so I know you know it's state level we'll be dealing with that as well but still collaboratively we can all do what you need on our side too that would be great so thank you so much and May 22nd for anyone that's here with horses right right okay Scott hilderbrand followed by Bradley levit followed by Leon cor corbier pretty good good morning good morning as you said my name is Scott H brand I'm here to talk about the sherff S uh water issue um I've been here since for over 61 years and I've seen a lot of uh changes in golf courses seen Rosewood come and go Brookside of course many years ago Deandrea North Gate and most recently uh wild creek so we're losing a lot of our Affordable Golf and uh I was luy enough to retire in 2018 and I wanted to join men's club and play more golf during the week so so a couple things I looked at was one was affordability and Sarah Sage is by far the cheapest place to play golf around here it's a great golf course and M has kept the price down low so we can all afford golf I mean red Hawk's up to 100 bucks wild creek um uh wolfrun I mean is up to 85 on the weekends lak Ridge is $100 on the weekends price um so the prices are they're tough for a lot of people to play golf yeah the other thing I looked at was atmosphere you know Sarah Sage is it's a family out there it really is it reminds me of that old uh some of you are too young but the old uh sitcom cheairs when Norm walked into the bar you know that's the way Sarah Sage is yeah you walk in everybody knows your name yeah the staff's friendly in the Pro Shop the the staff in the kitchen the uh the guys out on the course everybody is it's a it's a family atmosphere and you don't you don't get that a lot around so it's I hate to see all this go away and Maz does another thing that none of these other golf courses do on Black Friday when everybody's shopping the malls us morons are standing in the cold out there it and I'm serious there's hundreds of us it he starts selling them at 8:00 in the morning they're out there at 7:00 we're standing in the line he sells certificates for $18 a piece to play round of golf that's awesome so I get them for my grandkids yeah you know and myself I stole a couple from from them back but anyway and he does so much for the first te in the high high schools uh yesterday tournaments for the high schools he started at 10:00 most of the places start at 2: so these kids are playing from Meco if you're starting at 2:00 you're not getting home till midnight so that's another thing he does for him so I want to ask you folks is why you want him to pay so much or the golf course to pay so much for his reclaim water when P places out South they don't pay anything Eric Creek is a private course they don't pay a penny for it out there you know the water's going back to the aquifer if we don't if there's not used on the golf course where's it going to go it's going to go in Swan Lake again and we all know what happened out there I live in analo Valley and that affected me for you know a long time when when we were having to drive around so I'm just would ask you folks to please reconsider what's going on with that type of money so we can still have a horable golf in our community thank you perfect timing all right thank you so much um I'm glad that you came to bring this up I think there's a few things I think it's golf is incredible for your mental health I think now more than ever children are struggling the younger we can um the more often we can get younger people into this sport of golf and it's so good for you mentally and you're outside um and so this Council has been very dedicated to activities especially for our seniors and for our young ones I don't know when did Tiger Wood start like at five I just saw these incredible images of him and also I want to say thank you to Mr mafair he has been a wonderful Champion for All Sports and for golf obviously I did want to ask Mr flansburg because this has come up in my email and I was told by staff oh that's not us that's Washo County so if there's anyone here like on maybe I don't know if you brought other people it's not on our agenda but I would love to know because I think um we have been confused as a city council whenever we hear that it's Washo County so can you maybe address this and again I'm not supposed to do that but I I would assume that are some of you else are some of you here for this a golf item oh my God okay well there you go and then that way I can get you guys out of here so you don't have to sit here for two hours okay a lot of you all right go ahead please um let us know cuz we've never had this on the agenda item it's come across my uh email but then I get a response oh that's not us it's the county so please clarify for the record John flansburg uh Regional infrastructure administrator uh I totally understand where Mike mazery and and the sierus AG Gulf um their concerns uh unfortunately well fortunately there's an agreement that actually allowed for us to build the pipeline and to uh extend it out uh to the golf course to North Valley Sports Complex uh we also now have a connection to O'Brien middle school when they did their recent upgrades uh so we have uh users out there in the summertime for the effluent um this agreement uh had the sewer fund pay for all the infrastructure as well as waso County pay for the infrastructure to take the affluence system and put it into place that we have today the intent on the agreement for the charges was actually to help pay for the M operations and replacement of that system and so that's what we're trying to recover in our cost analysis and so the agreement with wo County was to charge between 50 and 70 the charge would be between 50 and 70% of equivalent uh pable water use so am I right just really quick we sell it to Washo County Washo County charges yeah so I was going to that's what I was going to mention is we don't actually we've never built the golf course for water we always build waso County for the water use uh that goes to both the uh golf course and the sports complex okay um and then so I know that that's maybe the county also could um that sounds really interesting I would think the county and the city could work together maybe on some sort of funding agreement but that's weird we charge the county and then the County charges the golf course they pass they pass the charges on to those those uses okay so I bring that up because there's also discussion about that there's other golf courses that are not paying anything for their water and in South trucky Meadows Washo County owns the South trucky Meadows plant um in South trucky Meadows when you when you develop in South trucky Meadows you have to over bu your water and the reason you do that is because you have to have a certain amount of water that gets uh dedicated to the river and therefore in South trucky Meadows they're not allowed to discharge anything that's going to go back to the river they can't they don't have a discharge to Steamboat Creek for instance so have to store their they have a wintertime storage use though which is great they have the uh Huffer Reservoir so they store water but in the summertime they have to get rid of that water they need to dispose of that water so they have a lot of users they've made a decision to pass the cost of their collection treatment and disposal of the water including distribution of the effluent to the Sewer users the sewer rate payers that affects City Areno we have over over half of the users in South try Meadows um are City Areno residents uh so it does affect us because our residents are paying more for that we receive a a benefit in that our Parks aren't paying for affluent water in South try Meadows so I I just I bring those couple things up to just show that water is different depending on where you are our agreement with waso County from 1999 is strictly just a a build the system and then how we're going to recover the cost to make sure that we can replace that system and keep it operating in perpetuity okay so this in that agreement there's nothing that says anything about the golf course the the agreement just is it's about water that we about the water and and how we're going to how are we're going to cover the cost for the payment of that water okay so we we do have a the rates are established generally and what we're going to pay uh charge and that's what we have done and and it's just again to replace it's how we're going to replace that infrastructure if we don't replace the infrastructure through recovery of some sort of fee for for water then we have to cover it through a sewer user rate and so it's kind of that that that trade-off between how do you pay for uh for renewing that system making sure the effluence system can stay and operate and and be maintained I think it's a conversation obviously with this body in Washo County and not to mention the City of Reno subsidizes Washo County uh pretty heavily and I think you know especially outdoor recreation for our seniors and our younger folks should have access to that so I think there's a conversation that needs to be had for sure so um all of you here on that we I will reach out to them and then um we could put it on our agenda we could have was County come and address that Mar yeah go ahead I I would just like to say I have had meetings with the City of Reno city manager and the county and it just hasn't gone anywhere so I I really would like to open the conversation and um start moving forward I mean I I had conversations in April of last year and they're just not they're not moving forward and and I I understand the comments about they they don't have a place to put the water down south but we're spending a significant amount of money to put water into the ground and American flats and you know we could use their facility to siphon some of that water off as well so we have a similar situation and and we're frequently told up in that area that we're not treated differently than the rest of the city or rest of the area and I think this is a glaring example of an inequity between uh North Reno and and South areas and then I would just say it's really um needs to be a conversation with the county like I said we subsidize them on many different levels and this is one of those areas where that Recreation needs to be accessible for all especially golf golf is expensive but it's it pays out in dividends just like we have we are not anti-lf no I know I know we aren't but my I guess I'm a little frustrated because we need to have the county here at the table so if you could invite them and everyone watch on an agenda item um we are going into I think summer break um and then also we have to look at their schedules but I would just ask all of you to watch the agendas and um and then we'll I know what we'll do we'll alert Mr maery when it's on an agenda to bring Washo County in and have a discussion to see um how we can mitigate that cost because I really believe strongly in Recreation just like we do with um um Sky Tavern right like we live in this very special region where we're Outdoors a lot and um I would love us to see cuz I think we are so unique that's why I mean I think we're the only city that has a ski hill and you know we got to support all these other sports because they're so critical I know you don't so thank you you're just the messenger so I appreciate it m what we could really use is a wintertime water storage venue that's what we could use we need places for our effluent in the winter time in the summertime all of our Fone is basically spoken for because of all the all the uses we already have okay so summer is not our problem it's winter winter winter okay makes sense go ahead councilman ree Madame mayor um and Mr flansburg Miss Ebert and I I think even earlier than April last year I think had been discussing the same issue and I think from our perspective one of the things that might be relevant is to know how much is the cost of the water because in theory I I might be inclined to say I am interested in making sure that Mr mazery and the uh Golf Course are successful even beyond the subsidy that is currently in place and so um this is Miss Ebert I really think has sh shined a light on the golf as a recreational opportunity in the North Valley so I we need to know the cost I appreciate that uh the the charge is a is $166 per thousand gallons and the golf course uses about 100 million gallons so it's really easy you can just move the decimal over it's about 166,000 a year then okay that's about that's the rough magnitude of their water the total water yeah between us and the county we can figure something out so that'se in addition to the effluent discussion because I do want to I do want to tickle that down a little bit you know I thought we weren't working toward not having a winter problem that was called reinjection and so you know it's completely within our ability to make decisions on the effluent and I was struck by the fact that there said in the memo there's not a short we have a shortage of uin I thought we had an abundance of uin that's why millions of dollars are being spent to explore reinjection but as the senior member here on the body along with you Madame mayor I would like this discussion when it comes on to be about Recreation when the mayor and I came on in 2012 2013 2014 we brought a national expert in to look at the entire golfing landscape here as we uh retired Rosewood for the southeast connector and we made promises to the golfing Community we also understood need and since then like the gentleman spoke we've lost wild creek so I would like the discussion to bring back that report I still think it's valid the clerk should have a copy of it understand our golf landscape for public go golfers and also as a part of that discussion I want a thorough examination of our residential construction tax up in the North Valleys I believe that we have collected so much money up there and I was taken back about a year and a half ago when our then Parks director said we don't have any new construction of new parks up there so we have a recreation facility that serves a specific purpose but we also need at the same time to understand how much money we're sitting on when we build all those homes they pay all that money and we're not um advancing the recreation needs of this new grow growth area there may be a combination to look at the two in context so I wanted to bring that up because I don't often get a chance to talk to anyone as agendas are populated and I really want to look at golfing as a public Recreation um and rely upon our history in that area as we move forward so thank you madam mayor thank you councilwoman breus I appreciate that and I'm going to send it to ACM attorney uh you just heard Direction so I would ask uh for a future agenda item and then we will reach out to Mr maery you guys just follow along with him I'm sure maybe you guys have a newsletter or something um and we will get it on an agenda and bring it back and I would love for your report when you uh when we do that so thank you all right thank you madam May okay and and Madam mayor I just want to make sure that um we have Clarity from our legal uh Council that um although this was not agendized because it was discussed from the body we're able to have interject comments on it is that accurate yeah for the record that's not an open meeting law violation yeah I just want let me let me just like I I appreciate the question John Shipman for the city attorney's office so the the open meeting law says that periods you have to have public comment and for those periods and this was under 24120 subsection D4 or D3 periods devoted by the for general for general public if any and discussion of those comments so you are in the discussion of those comments comp component of this so it's within the meeting you can't take any action on it the the open meeting law is clear that you can't take action until it's agendized um but again um you can talk about those comments you can provide information on those comments but um to the extent that you can take action you can't and just going forward if we can just um if if there is if there is a decision that you want to pursue an issue let's just put it on an agenda but you do have some leeway in discussing the comments of the public okay so the comments are the part but it's the action part that is where we Veer into the issues with the open meeting law not the comments that we may engage in with one another no the comments of discussion of the public comment so if a public member of the public makes a comment you under the law have the right to discuss that comment and that's what I viewed what it just happened here and with the horses um but again to the extent that you're starting to look at doing anything of an action that's going to require a separate agenda item key is the action and the key is the action thank you so much no action taken we're fine yes madame mayor I have heard the comments discussed today by this body and we will will move forward accordingly understanding council is not giving direction today no but you did hear me understood all the words today so we will take care of it okay thank you so much all right moving right along I'm sorry madam clerk go ahead back on track thank you Bradley levit followed by Leon sorry Leon corbier followed by Dennis Oliver good morning good morning um my name is Bradley love it and I'm the youth camps and Recreation manager for Chucky Meadows Parks Foundation we are a private nonprofit um focused on the stewardship of our outdoor spaces and public parks um we partner with the city parks and recreation department to host an outdoor stem camp out of Idol wild park for kids 8 to 12 um everything from Urban birding insect biodiversity surveys and collecting water samples from the trucky River um to help determine the health of our waterers shed um we utilize the entirety of Idol wild park to give Hands-On science-based fun all summer long it's super awesome um a lot of our break time is spent waiting in the trucky River catching croads and just enjoying our time out near and on the water um River time as we call it is always a huge highlight of the summer um we take comments from our kids and almost all of our kids always comment on River time it's super fun um um so given our regular use of the space I just want to stress the importance of activation along the trucky and uh I won't take up too much more of your time but I would just like to thank both the parks department and the city council for all of the work that you guys do along the river if it wasn't for our partnership with the Parks and Recreation Department uh we wouldn't be able to hold our programming and we utilize the trucky River so much for the programming um so yeah thank you so much for all the work you do and again kudos to the Parks and Recreation Department everything they do is so important and we couldn't do it without them that's awesome just really quickly for any um parents that might be listening how can they get their child involved yeah um just go to our website TMP Parks foundation.org um if you go under youth programming and click on um summer camp you'll see the registration for that um yeah kids 8 to 12 all right great job thank you so much on corbier followed by Dennis Oliver followed by Robert Frost thank you mayor and city council my name is Leon corvier um I've been a resident here in Reno for about 15 years I'm an elderly man with uh three young children three young boys I'm here for the Sierra Sage water issue I want to thank you for what you just expressed as far as wanting to bring this matter to a further uh deal with W County because at the end of the day we're all one yeah W County Reno we're all one yeah but it provides a a serious necessity for people like myself on fixed incomes with children yeah to give us a place so we you know I could take my kids there and be able to afford to have them do something constructive you know we all know that you know the youth really need it crime rate's gone kind of a little out of hand and so this gives people place to recreate in a constructive way you know first te my boys have been doing that for many years out there at Sierra s you know Special Olympics um the senior golf program out there so you know I just think it would be a travesty to the people of this community if we lose another Affordable Golf Course that leaves us with one Washo yeah cuz I myself with three kids in today's expensive world I'm done golfing so are my boys if if we don't have Affordable Golf so I just want to say thank you for hearing me out and and thank you for you know looking into this in you know a more productive way yeah thank you all right Leon thanks so much I appreciate it great comments thank you Dennis Oliver followed by Rich Moore followed by Sheila Browning puso well first of all thank you for uh letting us be up here uh my name is Dennis Oliver I am the uh head coach for special Olympic golf team this is 20 this is our 28th year I love it and it's probably it's my passion yeah uh when I I've been in the golf business about the same time maw has been in it and the same amount of years which is I don't want to say how many that is but we've been doing it a long time but this is uh I'm semi-retired and I'm going to this will be the last thing I ever give up I'll never give it up until I'm dead because it's so much fun as anybody that ever is out there on Saturday mornings 18 weeks a year to see how much fun these kids are having I call them kids a lot of them are older than me but they're my kids but uh and Mike does this for us for nothing zero cost I mean you're talking I think I figured it out the other day uh $2,700 worth of range balls we hit that's a lot of range balls no charge use of golf carts no charge it's just I uh I know there's a lot of the business issues going going on here but I would like to vouch for the character of Mike mazery because that's the reason that I play golf out there and work out there because of him and the uh what Scott said about the uh atmosphere it's it's beautiful it's the best place there is cuz I worked I worked 24 years over at atad originally starting in the early 80s then I went to wild creek and for 13 years until they closed and everybody was asking me where do we go they're closing wild creek I said you only got one option go to Sierra s and I could go on for uh I better get going here I could go on forever about Special Olympics and uh and Mike does so much other stuff for uh you got Senior Golf Juniors veterans PGA hope is there's so many things that he does then this is all free of charge this is all free stuff and he is a Class Act and uh ever since I've known him we just talked about this we had uh Mike and I oh more than once he's told me that his only vision is to have Affordable Golf that's his main goal in what he does and they can do that without paying uh a monster water bill would really help so much and keep them in business and keep everybody happy yeah but uh I'm running out of time here so thank you very much for the time you so much great comment Rich Moore followed by Robert Frost followed by Sheila Browning puso hello I'm rich Moore um here for the sier sage water issue um tough act to follow with these people that already spoken so I'm not going to kind of reiterate everything they've said uh my wife and I have played golf out there since about nine 10 years ago when Ma Mass first took it over we've seen the huge Improvement he's made over in the effort he puts in not only uh what Dennis just talked about you go out there any day of the week you're going to see uh high school kids there little kids carrying golf bags on their back uh mothers fathers I mean those things you don't see everywhere and it's better than seeing them with a iPhone on their face you know I mean they're outside enjoying the sunlight so we can't forget that and we can't even put a value on it because it's too high we need to maintain places like what MZ has done for the community uh North Valley is growing like crazy you know with all the apartments and duplexes and fourplexes and whatever and so all those people are going to need something and you start putting this guy out of business because he can't afford to run the golf course properly takes a lot of money to run a golf course now you add another couple hundred grand to water and now all of a sudden the prices have got to go up because he can't afford to do that and he's already got low prices best prices in town for to play golf and he's got almost the best facility in town given where it's at in in the desert and so you know the U the fact that he helps with the flood water management when you know he's got ponds on there he moves water from place to place when he has to and uh you know it's not it' be very unfair for for him to have to take the burden of this expensive water when other courses don't have to do it that's not anybody's fault it's a fact of life but it does create an unfair business plan for him you know he has to compete with these other people that don't do it so uh your guys's comments before uh minute ago when you had this cross talk going back and forth that was really good to see I mean I didn't expect that I thought maybe you guys just sit back and let this thing just slide by but obviously there's there's there's going to be dialogue to be had and I hope that it's fruitful and keep everybody informed we'll be back thank you thank you so much I appreciate that um really quickly CU as I'm getting older I really honestly I can barely see it you have to be like this close to me um but I I did I think Mr maaeri is back there I'm curious just really quick um just so it gives us a little bit of background I know my city attorneys are probably freaking out and they hate this will you will you come up really quickly and give me an idea I would assume Mike that you've addressed us over at Washo County absolutely and can you give us a little bit of background so we know going in and staff also knows what because like I said I've always heard oh that's the county that's the county and I do think that um it's very different what sometimes Council hears and what staff hears it's a can be two different things so give me a little idea absolutely for the record I'm Mike MAA fery local golf professional and thank you uh mayor shivi the you know the the 99 agreement that Mr flansburg was talking about was done at a time when for example the City of Reno didn't know they were going to get free water in South Reno from the County Sewer treatment plant you know it was a different time different place the North Valleys aren't the same as it used to be right the two things in the North Valleys that are really shining mayor's Park is nice and by the way the city gets free water at mayor's Park but North Valley's Park pays for water and so does the golf course and that's not Equitable but I think you know what what we did didn't know is as the golf course uh bonded and paid for the pipeline that came from the sewer treatment plant 2005 they sold water rights that were attached to the golf course and most of that money went down the street to create North Valley's Park North Valley's Park wouldn't be there without the sale of those water rights at that time a pipeline was built to the golf course and uh a bond was put in place and uh in 2014 I think it was maybe 13 we paid off that that Bond not not knowing about this 1999 agreement and that's when the price of the water changed because it was clear in the agreement that once the bond was paid off that the price would change in 2009 when I took over the golf course the County Commission had voted to close crsh I came I took all the risk for seven years we were break even at best maybe I didn't even draw a salary I worked two jobs to keep the place going but the big thing was is we paid off the bond thinking we were going to have more money for uh Capital Improvements and other things and then the price of the water went up so it put us in a really bad position and then covid came along and you know it's just one thing after another but uh you know all we want to do is is talk about the future and there really isn't a future for us you know I I ran the city of Areno courses for 10 years very successful Rosewood and Brookside and I left the city when the golf Enterprise fund became the recreation fund and a year and a half later we went from a million and a half dollars in reserve to nothing because it was spent on things like the Evelyn Mount uh facility and and other recreational things and not put back into golf but the bottom line uh mayor is you know in 2005 we had six publicly owned golf courses in County and now we have two yeah and this situation is is making it possible that we might only have one and a public golf course has a different Mission than yes a privately owned golf course we know why we're there and we're good at it and we have junior golf we have veterans we have Special Olympics we have disabled golfers we have yesterday we had a high school tournament with nine high schools there you know we know why we're there and this situation you know I I met with you and Bonnie Weber about it three years ago and and we've tried and Mr flansburg to his credit he's trying to run the thing like a business but um you know I think there needs to be discussion and we've tried I've written letters and not had one return letter you know we we need to put this on the table and discuss it I think too we've done an equity study with the county uh which really will help that's why I said you know we're working better now more than ever because of the equity study to show there's a lot of we're subsidizing a lot and I think this is a really good example where we should do this collaboratively and to your point these are very different initiatives than a regular golf course and mo most of those golf courses would probably never let you even on the course yeah they they're they're about revenue and private members paying dues and you you close off the T boox for a little little while for a bunch of Juniors to play and you're going to hear about it and and we back those people off and say wait your turn there are future customers and this makes this a better place to live because your kids are playing golf but uh you know I might point out too there's 60,000 golfers in waso County two-thirds of them live in the city of Reno oh and City of Reno has zero golf courses now so yeah you know I think it's very important that we talk about this now and find a find a resolution and and we did raise rates this year but I don't like it yeah I don't blame you yeah I don't blame you so um you'll be back when we have that discussion okay and um I'm looking forward to it and not to mention I think there are other players whether it's rcva um you know some it could be even Tuma there are other players that could easily be at the table but I I don't think this is hard I think this is pretty solvable um but I I do think that you know for so long that uh I think Council woman breus is correct for so long we're starting to lose them and so we got to do whatever we can like I said now more than ever ever Recreation is so important especially for mental health I don't know what else children will do it saved Sports saved me um I know well maybe it didn't but your daughter yeah he's laughing as yes but um your daughter and I figure skated together and I think honestly it kept us out of a lot of trouble now her daughter my granddaughter Granda now oh gosh I can't believe it well she'll always be a little girl to me little little one she has twin twin little girls and she's got an older one that skates and you know they they the ice rank great example of a collaborative effort to get it done and and how happy are those that skate you know and there's a lot less skaters than golfers though yeah that's true very very true all right well thank you and I look for to having the county here or we'll do it at the county either or here or there thank you thank you Mike would you meet with my leaon who's Abby today who's going to get a time for us to meet about this issue absolutely she'll come over okay thank you thanks again Robert [Applause] Frost followed by Sheila Browning Pau followed by Gary Overholt and for the same reason that Mike was here had whole thing written out he's almost said everything I'm a retiree from uh Tahoe came down here I'm not going to read this because I'm going to make it short I live in Woodland Village I selected that place because it's close to the golf course I didn't expect that place to close along with Dean it will if you CH it m Deandrea wild creek Brookside uh also so can Washo County go golf course Center Areno can they absorb a few extra thousand people to play there they can't I live in a park right next to my home I overlook it there are kids that are there not too much action in the week weekends there's 4 68 soccer fields uh lacrosse Fields set up there are hundreds of people there parents kids whatever else I don't think that Park pays for water I don't think they have any income for that park it was actually a dump for the Woodland Village construction filled with dirt put in irrigation given to was County and with that there is an expense to the county his place is an expense doesn't cost wo County or Reno any money um so they make a profit you get an income off of it that's all I can say I'll forget my whole writings thank you sir Sheila Browning Pau followed by Gary Overholt followed by Kevin Williams good morning Sheila Browning Pau candidate for the open seat representing Ward 5 on Reno city council I'm here to offer insights on the proposed housing initiatives based on what I'm hearing from community members it would be easy to boil this down to a debate between nimes and yimes but that would be a disservice to the nuanced public sentiment that I'm hearing there's consensus that we need housing for folks who are in median and Below incomes as the rgj reported this morning Reno's unhoused population has hid an all-time high we have a moral duty to address this crisis multif family housing may very well play a role however there are real concerns about the proposals before Council today people wonder why step one isn't to incentivize multif family housing in the vast vacant Parcels in central Reno that are already zoned for multif family housing that would go a long way towards revitalizing downtown without compromising quieter neighborhoods people are aware of the zoning code cleanup redefining single family to include four plexus while the city's FAQ page claims that no one is being upzoned and these proposals will not allow Apartments to be built in single family neighborhoods people are anxious about simultaneously reducing setbacks allowing structures a larger footprint and increased Heist and reducing parking it's confusing that the proposals mix in different concessions for affordable and market rate house housing people suspect benefits will flow to investors who can afford to tear down existing homes and rebuild fourplexes Lots could be subsidized and mid-century ranches next door could be replaced by up to eight new rental units investors might demolish houses run out of cash and leave holes where homes used to be we've seen that show before in Reno people find it unfair that HOAs will be insulated from these changes and are aware that several members of the council live in H neighborhoods full disclosure so do I but we need to make sure that people understand it's council's job to care for all neighborhoods I urge the council to be honest with the public that the proposals would allow multif family rental units in single family neighborhoods clearly separate out the affordable housing initiatives from the market rate initiatives then let's have those conversations let's consider setbacks footprint parking and building Heights separately and don't make these changes by right let's take measures to ensure that multif family housing will contribute positively by safeguarding against subdividing lots and instituting aesthetic guidelines like the ones HOAs have into building codes Rena whites deserve a managed Progressive housing Evolution not a dramatic transformation branded as a code cleanup we've often heard council members lament that we just have to live with development decisions made decades ago let's take the time and get it right because we'll all will be living with the consequences intended and unintended for decades to come thank you all right thank you so much I do want to remind everyone because sometimes I think people forget and I I certainly see it um out there on social media and so I'm just going to reiterate this and you guys have heard me say this many times um on the agenda I just want everyone to know that the agenda is strictly for conversation deliberation here at the body that's why we do it it's why you come um in public comment and just because some ends up on an agenda it is not the opinion or um I guess uh the will of the council that's why we have an agenda so that it does remain transparent so you can come and weigh in um I think oftentimes people think oh my gosh it's on the agenda it's happening we see that a lot so I want to make everyone aware that um that's not necessarily what it's for and it's really the opportunity because I hear all the time oh government isn't transparent now more than ever people do not like their government you're hearing this there's a lot of political divide in our world today you're seeing it first and foremost and so I can understand that it causes people to have anxiety but it's really the opportunity that we want to welcome you to come in give public comment because you might have things um like you just shared there are things that sometimes I think we might be hearing um for the first time um on any matter it doesn't matter you could be a neighbor of someone and there's a project coming next to your house or whatever that we might not have that type of knowledge so that's why we do it and I just want to remind everyone that that's what the agenda is for um I think this is Miss Mrs harsh right right here she was on the city council she knows very well what the agenda does and how it works right and so we appreciate you and I I just want to reiterate that because there are a lot of times people will call me and they're like oh my goodness I can't believe this is on and I'm like yes I want it to be on because I want you to come down and voice your uh opposition so I just want to remind everyone because that's really the opportunity to really come down and have your voice heard so thank you appreciate it okay next Gary Overholt followed by Kevin Williams followed by Patty Wampler Gary overh hold for the record um Madame mayor and council members good morning I just want to uh State again and I won't take up the full time but uh the Sierra Sage issue with the water I was out there um they've already cut back an areas of that course to conserve their their money so there's actually places that are starting to degrade already and I also see I stopped by uh mayor's Park and they've got the sod ready to put in on the new ball field now stead water treatment plan is owned by the City of Reno and that's part of the issue we've already discussed with the South to the north so I hope that there can be some compromise and a little bit of uh just keep the uh course open because we don't have a whole lot of parks we got plenty of um warehouses in W for uh they don't actually throw up parks and per we're kind of uh neglected on Parks so I would really like to see with all the uh additional programs they have at SI Sage I would love to see that place stay open so if we can do anything at all to further keep the course open I would love it and thank you very much all right thank you Kevin Williams followed by Patty Wampler followed by Iris pel uh good morning my name is Kevin Williams uh Reno resident uh Native nevadan uh born at watched who knows what will happen at you really are then yes who knows what will happen at Renown maybe that will be my last breath but no no don't act like that um I don't know my parents were born within 100 miles I'm just uh here to speak for the horses uh I don't know I just uh what Tracy was saying that she spoke very clearly very uh she made a lot of good points and I'm very glad that this happened I'm glad that it's uh on everybody's mind it's on you know one of the first things that were addressed today um I know I just would really like to emphasize the need for the fencing the fencing needs to happen it's not going to fix everything the opening in the gate will not fix everything the new fence which was installed uh the half mile of fencing that was installed with a small gate uh to the South it connects to the residential so that is completely blocked off and to the North toward Hidden Valley that area is pretty much like a patchwork of fencing I'm not sure if the horses could even navigate through that area um and if the fencing is fixed so they have access to Steamboat on the North side it'd be a matter of those horses having to walk down I believe it's called desert way um that's the main construction uh Road access so I don't know how there is no good answer it's going to take a lot of time the horses are uh animal you're they uh what what would be the word uh they just follow their their their their path they've been following this path for years they've been drinking at the water for who knows how many how many years um and that's all the water they know so to train them to go to another location is going to take a lot of time it's it's a terrible situation I don't know it's just um it's going to be bad this is what I witnessed the other day the H is trying to cross this new fencing if we could put that up there the picture okay uh it's just it's it's this band of horses this Colt was pushed through the fencing um this was Friday the fencing I think was installed Wednesday uh Wednesday when I went when I went over there Wednesday the horses were pretty much trying to charge the fence they were trying to navigate this new thing that was blocking their access so it's just a matter of um I don't know I wish the fence was gone uh having a water trough up there I'm not sure if that's the answer it's going to take a lot of time a lot of effort on everybody's part but I'm glad that it's on everybody's thoughts uh I live here I want to see these future Generations being able to enjoy the hes also so thank you for your time exactly thank you so much I really appreciate it and I understand that opening is now open the 12T gate Patty Wampler followed by Iris pel I'm sorry j Jaye paard I was trying to find your name um followed by Tracy Wilson so good morning and I am here about Sierra Sage but I represent the uh Women's Club I'm the treasurer of the club we have 76 active me members and we have six of them that have been with the club 25 years or more which is incredible and they're still golfing um last year our club raised over $3,000 to donate to youth golf in the community this year we're at $1,948 and we've only been in season for three weeks so that's how involved our cical youth so it's really really important um week ago Sunday there were 200 kids on a Sunday which is a big golf day yeah and mass closed the course and had 200 five year olds to 14 year olds for workshops and training so the ladies were out there helping with registration and it's just it's just important to us so everybody said everything else that I had in my copious notes so I'll let it go but thank you for your time thank you so much yeah go ladies go ladies right Iris Jayy perard followed by Tracy Wilson followed by sioban beard he I'm Iris Jayy papar the executive director of one trucky River a nonprofit that manages the Coalition of diverse perspectives my comments provided are not of one Trey River as a whole but as its executive director with the nonprofits mission in mind to ensure a healthy thriving sustainable River connected to the hearts and minds of its Community I applaud the City of Reno for allocating funds for the trucky River Corridor and support item D2 and D3 I'm impressed with the draft trucky River Vision plan produced by dig Studio A lot of my input today reflects items I see in that draft plan purchasing 48 animal resistant trash cans for the corridor with an easyto use handle will not only limit the trash along the corridor but will support future Riverbank repair projects as it will limit the food source for the squirrels that can damage native vegetation I suggest if they are meant for trash to use a different color than blue to not be confused for recycling I'm excited to focus on the focus to provide more value to the public at West Street Plaza I encourage funds to be used for long-term Capital Improvements such as permanent public restrooms liid techniques to capture and filter storm water runoff and boat docking facilities overall I want to express support to continue the work with and fund City Areno contracts with nonprofits such as rise and Karma box project to do Human Service Outreach along the river homelessness is complex how well the region manages the issue is the question long-term collaborative Solutions need continual support Bank stabilization shade and Riverbank uh and riparian habit habitat along the corridor such as a long Riverside Drive that everybody loves is uh supports improved water quality and economic development it is what makes the trucky River unique here in Nevada we have wildlife in the urban core that needs to be preserved and enhanced please have lighting be dark sky approved I'm excited about and thank the City of Reno for the collaborative projects we are working on together now which includes the Broadhead Park Riverbank repair project actualizing restoration focused on water protection and with a focus on line of sight for safety the river friendly living demonstration garden at Lake Park and the newly funded by Nevada state of Forestry the tury river Urban Tree Workforce uh pilot and very quickly I sent all elected officials of the three jurisdictions the rafting trip invite you might have not gotten it because of you know email bounces so um if just sign up for our newsletter on our website and that won't happen and we have four spots on the 15th and if that doesn't work for you I know Charles will get you down that River he will get you down theer okay thank you Iris Tracy Wilson followed by by sioban beard followed by Dan caner I think I can still say good morning um I know this is going on so I'm going good morning Madame mayor and Council uh my name is Tracy Wilson I'm the Nevada state director for American Wild HSE conservation and a volunteer liaison for Wild Horse connection I appreciate the updates that we've gotten today um very relieved I want to thank you for your quick and diligent work on this issue I want to thank whoever in staff is getting the fencing on the agenda happy Clerk's day because you guys are or week because you guys are amazing um I uh I want to just talk about this opening a little bit I'm thrilled that it's open I do have concerns that with just a 10 or 12 foot gate being open I know I've been out there before when the horses have spooked and they have their own perception of of the world and I've seen nothing and they all just took off up the hill and I I am concerned about that happening where they all Run for the opening at the same time so if a couple sections of fence could come down to widen that I think it would be better um I do want to point out that we did talk to the developer we asked for some of this we didn't get anywhere and when the fence started going up all of my inboxes blew up you my phone my messages my you know social media messages emails everything um it was really the community that rose up on this issue and it is not just us horse people it is the community who cares about the horses and they want to see them protected so I I do really want to make that point um I think that this is the first of many projects for this particular developer they own a lot of land out there um I am hoping that this can it take a corrective course that makes this not such a harsh entry into our community because right now the community is a little upset about what's happening so I again I I just really want to thank everybody I hope that opening can be a little wider and I will be here on the 22nd so thank you all for all the work that you been doing thank you so much no all the work that you do you are such a champion um for our Wildlife we're so grateful I um I just want to say I think councilman dur and and even um council member ree we've had this conversation in depth I don't think that maybe um developers have heard us whenever we talked about when we put the plan in for for uh our Wildlife yeah I you know just as a reminder I've been here on this project before with a different owner and it didn't go anywhere um it's different this time because thanks to councilwoman door uh we've got a we've got a solution in place or at least a good step towards solution with the fencing with the new opening to the creek we're on the cusp of being able to really do the right thing and make this work and I I just I can't thank you enough for your work on this and for the city's support on this well if we have to bring it back and make it more stringent then we will and there is a saying just because you can doesn't mean you should Madame mayor if I may because I I've been occupied with this quite a bit also I just want to state that this is the consequences of developer driven um land use policy we had annexation we had subdivision appeals I was over here saying no we don't have it ready to serve this area for the horses for other things and now we know now we know and now we have to fix it and we could have this Council and I'm not everyone over here but I took some some hits from some of my colleagues and they were you know ready to go with this but we could have put in a funding mechanism areawide for this we could have done a lot of things differently but these people were very persuasive to my colleagues that this was all going to be fine and and when I looked at the legal standards for findings for providing Services I knew that we would be here today with this so I don't know what this body is going to do in the future but to the person who's been on here because I think it was only me no on annexation no on subdivision appeals y'all let this happen and now you have to live with it and so no I'm I'm going to say my peace you've let everyone else say their peace and I'm going to say my peace I just want you to be very careful about attacking others on the council we've talked about this and I just want to be very careful of that thank you madam mayor but I just want to say that this was so predictable this outcome and now it's a problem to fix and it is not the way to plan a community thank you all right thank you so much um and I I appreciate your sentiments and that's why I think it needs to be back and like I said it needs to come back and if it needs to be much more stringent it's very disappointing for sure so I appreciate what you um your your comments and we need to plan for land use areas we can't just let it be through the development process we've fallen off on implementing our master plan for growth areas and it's been wrong and you know what it has been it's been a lot of sweet talking developers who come up here made promises and not hand held accountable and we all have to you know live with that but I have been frustrated for about a decade on what I've seen in the Southeast valleys and people saying one thing and doing another thing when it comes time to vote thank you thank you councilman breus okay sioban beard followed by Dan caner followed by Jerry heckathorn hi my name is Siobhan beard I'm a new Resident to Reno been here about a year I love it yay welcome where did you come from thank you oh gosh you're not supposed to say that word Los Angeles oh okay but you guys are teaching me so much I've learned so much living here and learning how to Live and Let Live um but I do feel passionately about this I I'm basically am saying ditto to what Tracy just said I will not take up your time I Just Want to Thank You Naomi I'm trying to educate my neighbors on what you're doing um good we're watching we're we're watching all y'all so thank you so much okay thank you so much Dan caner followed by Jerry heathorn thank you uh my name is Dan Kaner um I started playing at Sarah AG shortly before Mass took over the management of it in that 15 or more years you've seen a tremendous Improvement of facility I mean the course was basically dead and every year what little money he had he put into it got better and better and the comments you're hearing today about affordable quality facility or because of that now I realized I had some problems and so I won't believe where the the point but I would simply ask that you keep in mind one simple question why in the world would want to screw that up thank you than thank you I love it Jerry heckathorn followed by Pete Keenan followed by Blake monigan my name is Jerry heckathorn thank you for your time ladies and gentlemen and and the staff members too they have to put up with listen into this but uh I'm supporter of Mazes and have been for a lot of years U I've played Sierra stage since the early 80s when Maz was still at at Lakeridge and he's since he's taken it over he's just done a fantastic job of improving the course and making sure that we have good staff there all the time everybody's friendly and and nobody that comes from out of town feels put out when they when they show up and we have several acquaintances that come and spend uh two or three days through the winter so they can play golf here they can't play in Susanville or or GRE eagle or Clum or those places that's revenue for other merchants in in town which is a plus uh on that site I'm not real familiar with all of the water situation but I I was surprised when I heard this that going to happen because I thought when the water rice were sold the the golf course was going to be pretty solvent Forever Without uh having big increases and I think a a 3 or 400% increase in the cost is just outrageous I know that that uh your costs go up you have to re recover them somewhere somehow but uh I think this is a in excessive amount myself but I I see that you've got plans now to carry on with this and get it done and that's primarily what we want to see done is some action taken so thanks again for your for your time thank you and the good news is is I think we are incredibly collaborative with the county um since there has been a little bit of turnover and sometimes that always helps just a different perspective so we do work really well together now so that's a good thing because typically governments do thiser always right Pete Keenan followed by Blake monigan followed by Tiara monigan good morning my name is Peter D Keenan I'm the president of sius AG men's golf club we right now have 345 members current members it's a little anticlimactic going into all this after everybody said everything but I'm here to talk about Sierra Sage an inexp inexpensive recreational Outlet a beautiful North Valley's Jewel to be displayed showcased even bragged about not discarded I do not not want to talk about the past and the odiferous Swan Lake flooding nonpotable effluent into Lemon Valley or the present and the irreparable Damage this water problem could cause the recreational opportunities and many programs at Sierra age the only golf course in the area that has to pay for water everybody else gets theirs free let's talk about the future the North Valleys are growing we're having a population explosion we need to plan for the future the roads can't handle the flood of traffic Waste Management water treatment facilities recreational areas and nonpotable water disposal will all be major problems in the future Sierra Sage offers a 272 acre option non-potable water spread out over these Acres filtering down to the aquafer as portable water this gives us three solutions to Future problems we dispose of non-potable water we add portable water to the aquifer and we take a huge burden off of Swan Lake and any future flooding problems let's be proactive solve our future problems today let's protect our future thank you for listening right thank you so much great great comments Blake monigan followed by Tiara monigan followed by Dexter Phelps my name is Blake Monahan I'm 10 years old and have been part of the Sierra Sage Junior PGA team since I was six I'm here to ask you to please help Sierra Sage stay open every Friday Saturday and Sunday during golf season my junior PGA team of about 30 kids takes over the driving range in putting green for one to two hours right after that we get to play nine holes on the course this takes another 1 to two hours we are provided instruction and coaching the whole time by SE the Sierra Sage workers in Mass I appreciate this time because none of the teams we play against at the other courses get as much as we do my parents tell me that they make the 30 minute drive to and from Sierra Sage each day because it's the only course who truly supports junior golf otherwise they wouldn't be willing to give up their driving range and go Golf Course for 4 hours every Friday Saturday and Sunday to a bunch of kids learning to play my brother mom and dad and the other kids on my team really like going to Sierra Sage too because everyone is super nice we have become friends with a lot of the workers it isn't like this at any of the other courses in Reno some of my best memories are playing golf at Sierra Sage with my team my friends and my family please do what you need to do to help Sierra Sage stay open wow are you are you proud are you Mom what future mayor so uh are you missing school yeah that's a big deal when mom takes you out of school then you know it's serious right yeah you should get extra credit for that hopefully I'm really I'm really proud of you so um have you ever had a hole in one um I've had an eagle but not a hole in one I'm gonna brag for a little bit I had a hole in one it rolled 230 yard can you and trust me my dad was a scratch golfer you know Lov love love the sport and he took me out there it was like maybe my second time at the drive driving range he was not happy because he's never had a hole in one in his life so in some ways I it was just kind of fun and you know it's golf is such a mental game that you um literally I was like oh my gosh I love the sport this is going to be amazing and I was a figure skater at the time I thought I'm putting figure skating when I'm going to play golf instead and literally you go out there the second time because it's such a mental game oh oh no it is a tough tough game I learned really quickly uh that I definitely shouldn't be a golfer but I am impressed and your mom should be too what school you go to um Our Lady of the snow oh you do oh good okay I went there about a week um yeah I got kicked out I don't know I'm trying to think how old I was at the time maybe 12 10 12 um no wonderful school I'm just kidding uh what's your handicap um I think it's like a 34 not very good that's good that's good that's good that's good maybe you can give some of us some lessons up here anyway we're really proud of you I think your mom should be too I saw her taking pictures so make sure you show your teacher pict you want to come up and take a quick picture with us sure that would be amazing yeah come on up come on through the the thing there and we'll put you out here come you're going to be in front amaz okay all right come on everyone get in here wonderful okay one two three suck it in thank you guys much thank you BL Blake come back appreciate good job good job Tiara Monahan followed by Dexter Phelps followed by Don Ritter so my name is Tiara Monahan I'm obviously Blake's Mom where are you all from original yeah I was going to say I feel like I'm hearing a little bit of a Southern accent so I'm from Oregon I think we do have a little bit of an accent there honestly I know it's weird I it's I'm from a small town okay um the loss of Sierra Sage to this community would be completely devastating obviously you've heard that um so I'm here to ask respectfully that you please take whatever steps necessary to prevent its closing um please help Sierra stage stay open and continue to help the next generation of golfers like Blake um and I feel like it really helps them become like successful members of the community there's a lot of stuff you learn through golfing like respect and the things that these kids aren't really learning these days you know um C provides what no other golf courses offer in the area which is Affordable um it's well-maintained and they welcome kids families players from all walks of life in all areas of our community um the kids and the golfers that come to Sierra stage are not just from the North Valleys of course they're from all areas of Reno Sparks waso County and of course from out of town everywhere we go um we take the boys golfing um in different parts of you know California and it's like everywhere we go we talk to the you know uh PGA guys in the golf course and they all know about sier sage and they all come to CR Sage to play so it's impressive it's welln even in California and other parts of the country um as you heard from Blake CSH has been a huge part of his childhood and we want it to continue to be um my oldest son Gavin he has tested so he couldn't come he's 12 um and he plays for Sierra Sage also and he wanted me to let you know that he's sorry he couldn't come but he wanted me to tell you that he will refuse to play for any other course in town Sierra sage has the best Junior PGA program and they win year after year after year and it's because of all the time that Maz lets these kids play at their course other courses in town are giving the kids like one hour a week these guys get like seven or more hours a week to play there um so my two boys play for Sierra Sage Junior PGA Blake wore his shirt today as you can see um but the parents are all coming from South Reno Somerset Hidden Valley aiel qu Aro Creek Damonte Ranch I mean they're coming from everywhere and every year more and more players are coming from those courses because they see how good these guys are um I hope that you guys really listen to all of our comments and we can get it on the agenda um and it's not just the kids that want it to stay open but it's the adults too it's everybody um I'm sure Maz would love for any of you to come out to see our stage and I'm sure he'd love to give you a tour Blake even said he would be willing to give you a tour he knows the course like the back of his hand and he'll even give you a mini lesson if you don't know how to play gol we're going to need it thank you thank you so much Dexter Phelps followed by Don Ritter followed by Elizabeth so Soto mayor good morning um my name is Dexter Phelps I'm a native nevadan I grew up right here in Areno Sparks area um I started school in 1957 if you think it's a small town now I've seen the growth okay a lot of this I can throw out do you remember hash Lane I remember ke it's McCarron now yeah Keystone used to be a dirt road I used to ride my bike down so so I don't remember that but I remember Lakeside stopping remember when Lakeside stopped mhm yeah a lot of changes much to my lament some of it um half of this I can throw out because some of it's been addressed thank you um Madame breus for uh addressing the pumping issue that's going on at Swan Lake um so I'm just going to Simply say this the City of Reno has 87 Parks um their playgrounds and sports facilities splash pads basketball and T courts Ward 4 I think has five okay to a lot of the citizens uh crsh is our Sports facility and playground my grandson has been in the first Heat Program now this will be its third year high scho school teams compete there um I was hitting balls with the Elco boys yesterday on the Range um the UNR women's team they practice there and senior citizens like I play there because Mr massery has made a conscious effort to keep the price affordable if it wasn't for him I wouldn't be able to play so I came here um upset but now I'm very encouraged by what appears to be a consensus that youall are here to help us so I very much appreciate that thank you all right good job thank you so much Don Ritter followed by Elizabeth's Sodom mayor followed by Donna Keats hi uh good afternoon I uh sent emails to both the mayor's and Naomi's offices the day the gate went up or the fence went up I walk it every day I don't know it's hard it's hard to see what I saw with the horses the Mayors who were out of control jumping and tripping and getting caught in the fence and trying to get under and you guys seem to be dealing with the same issue for years I've only been here since the beginning of 2020 but I look at all the notes from all your meetings nothing gets done Sunny Hills just bought this property that is the meadow area that I thought why is that even privately owned it should be owned by the city of of Reno like all the water surrounded areas and the fact that anybody would even consider developing on that with all the water I see because as I said I walk just every day of the year unless I'm on vacation through snow through rain any anything the fact that that would allow it to be developed first and Sunny Hills his own owned the Long Beach managed company Long Beach California managed company that's happens to be a you know a company that is Incorporated in in Nevada but they bought all the hillside that all of that the horses graze on back in 1979 transferred it a lot of it from story to wasow county in 2013 they just bought this strip of land from the previous people who have had problems trying to get developed and all of a sudden it's that let's go let's just develop it and nobody seems to consider anything about what I mean and the guy I you know cuz uh excuse me T and I you know she went to the Press I I didn't make it to the meeting that you had before with the with Sunny Hills because I my husband had to do a biopsy the next day and he says that it was illegal for the horses to be watering there and it's not illegal did anybody correct him I don't know why it I mean I felt bad for the newspaper reporter because she obviously doesn't know the difference between BLM Federal rules and and private property rules but you guys I I'm even more discouraged I want to hear about the golf problem that you have had public golf courses like five or six and now you're down to two this is there a master plan where I came from there was a major master plan for the community you know property taxes aren't everything all right there is a master plan and we will make sure Madam clerk gets it to you thank you Elizabeth Soto May followed by Donna Keats followed by Nicole Hayes good morning my name is Elizabeth sotoor and I live in South Reno at Saddle Ridge was is which is the community at the end of Rio Wrangler next to the meadow so this is about the horses last week a fence was put up by the developer everybody has said Sunny Hills blocking the natural water source for the wild horses now I wasn't aware that they had made such a commitment on their website and now that I know it makes me really angry because they are not even close to meeting any of those things that they promised so I will look more into that and be prepared for May 22nd since then since this fence came up I have seen entire bands frantically trying to get to the other side of the fence the horses are confused they're in distress and they're trying to get to the other side of the fence at any cost sometimes even jumping the fence and you saw Kevin's picture it was horrifying and to just go as the lady that just came up here um I do go over there I live right next door I go over there every day and the other day just a couple of days ago I see this big band of 10 horses running down the hill the most beautiful site you ever saw and all I can think of what's going to happen when they get to that little gate that little gate may seem like they're giving something but they are giving nothing I think to myself what kind of cruel evil person makes the decision to take away the water source of these beautiful animals without ensuring that they have an alternate water source I am asking that this fence be taken down until an alternate source of water for these animals can be found sorry I'm emotional because it it if you see this it's horrifying I also want to talk about one more thing horses in the streets of South Areno the horses seem to be off the streets right now but as they do year after year they will be making their way down our busy streets our community has pleaded for funding to fence the areas where horses get out but as it stands there will be no fencing in South Reno in 2024 this means another year of horses getting hit and killed what is it going to take to get anyone's attention for the person in the car to die or get critically injured we need the fencing project to begin now y before anyone else gets hurt M we love our wild horses and they should be kept safe in the Hills where they belong thank you all good job thank you so much and just so you know that's going to be um that allocation is imminent and I think this Council supports it way more than you no yes yes yeah I mean just to be clear just so you don't have misinformation um this money was awarded about 6 eight months ago um there were permits to obtain cost analysis to be done a project plan we hired a consultant J Engineers to do all the work they've just finished all the work um we have about half the money and what I've asked the council and our staff is to find the other half of the money we didn't know what the total cost would be until they did the full cost estimate and believe me if it was up to me it would already be done I and also I should just provide a little bit of background whenever these projects came in we worked with Tracy and saying no you can't do this you can't do that and I feel like we got ran over and so that's why I'm saying these are important um policy decisions our Wildlife policy um if it looks like it doesn't work and uh it's it's just not acceptable so um I you know we appreciate you and especially seeing that seeing what you saw is traumatizing yeah and one more thing uh when we adopted the horse conditions uh back in um I want to say at least five years ago we also said that was a start not the end that we would probably have to amend those over time and I think we'll probably at that point this land allowed one residential unit per 40 acres okay that is my Rural and it has been suburbanized without the adequate protections for wildlife and other concerns that I have and that's why now all of the city's money is being used to bail out this area when conditions and requirements should have been made if it was the will of the council to allow this to sub suburbanized for very high-end housing it's going to be very expensive housing it was never going to solve our affordable housing Crunch and I'm just I'm going to keep harping on this is comes up because I want to let the community know what happened the history who was involved and make the record for going forward up here and and if I may Madame mayor I just I just want to set the record straight since there's so many people in the audience and for good or for bad we all live and die with our votes both the mayor and I voted against Daybreak and both the mayor and I voted against bellista 2 so I just want to be really clear about about that we were here when those votes came listen I don't I I don't want to talk about who did who didn't I'm just saying I I don't like the assertion that somehow we agreed to this or wanted it um yeah and that's the only thing happen years ago why I asked councilwoman breus to be careful about you know listen there are a lot of things we do we don't have crystal balls this can be a really tough job there are times you vote on something you and then you turn back around um and you're just beside yourself but you don't know what the outcome is and sometimes you think oh we're doing a really really good thing and then on the other side you realize you messed it out pretty good government does that a lot um we're just like you we were elected just you know we're we're like you it's really um and and I don't mean to disrespect our our team here at the City of Reno because they're really really wonderful but we kind of come in in this position of not really knowing anything and you got to learn a lot and you and so we're just like you guys we're passionate about it so you know that's why public comment is really great to hear um but you know all the things that you guys know that we might not know that's why they they make a difference but um I want to be really just really careful we have enough fighting in this world I don't want it at my Council I think Reno deserves better um you know Point finger pointing this is not going to do us any good are we always going to get it right no we're not but we got to be rooting for Reno we live in this community together um and I we got to just we got to quit fighting there's so much of it in this world I don't care wherever I see it I I put myself on a Content died on social media I'm sure a lot of you guys have um because it's so divisive so I don't want to do this up here I think you guys deserve better so I apologize mamir no but I I I just want to you know let you know okay moving forward Donna Keats followed by Nicole Hayes followed by Steve pagee mayor and city council well that really changed whatever I thought I was going to talk about today it does however go to um infrastructuring planning forward before you do development like councilwoman breakfast said like Naomi's done many times I'd love it if you would stay and listen to my comment Madam mayor but I guess not okay Donna she can hear it in the back remember it's piped in I didn't know that okay thank you um anyway I had intended to talk about actually everything Sheila said 100% what I think only do it better I mean I she did it better so I'm not going to repeat that but I think we're missing a little planning element here I think you guys need to go back to your master plan look at where you really intend to have what kind of development where see what you're really doing because these housing initiatives are kind of like off base so I'm going to request that you treat this affordable housing thing as an item to move forward with action I'm I'm going to suggest that you take the other housing items and workshop them today and rethink it and do some real planning these maps that you're about to see do not actually reflect where additional housing can go because there's no carve outs like my neighborhood says I can have triplexus but my neighborhood plan says I can't that shouldn't be on the map there's all those you need to actually plan where it's going to go and I think feel really strongly that nobody's talking using the word accessible housing that's what I want to see my friends who are School teachers who can't rent houses who can't raise their kids in a little tiny yard somewhere those are people that really need protection we all know we're going to get affordable housing protection somehow we also know there's hardly any of those units that come online so let's talk about how we can keep our teachers in the city and how we can keep our service people in the city our everybody the police the fire we want them to live here we don't need them to commute to Megan's Ward is lovely as it is you know they need to be near where they work so I think these housing initiatives before you other than the affable housing are not well thought out they are Developer driven they're slam dunk hanging fruit things you can pick there's stuff in there that none of you even knew about until this last week because they still have it hanging in the code change you don't know about the setbacks and the multif family changes and stuff you don't know about that because they're in the code text amendments that should be in the Housing section you should plan it what we want to develop or what your master plan says in central neighborhoods we want mixed areas vibrancy we want people to connect across all socioeconomic levels that's what we want to see we're not against development we want smarter better Development I've said that to you 100 times I'm going to take another minute anyway because everybody else did so said a bad precedent but that's what we want to see we want that kind of housing we don't want to take affordable housing units just plop two more stories on them so we can stuff people in because you know what happens then they're Paras they don't fit anywhere nobody in the neighborhood wants to talk to those low low class people who live in this building that messed up our neighborhood you can't do that You' got to integrate them make them part of the community affordable housing all levels of Housing and you've got this stuff going on here is going to come up when you try to do the Adu ordinance everything you're going to he you're going to hear again on the Adu so solve this problem on the front end talk to the people with transparency tell them you're increasing their density let them know what you're really doing then you don't have to have them come here and be pissed off at what you're doing just tell them but you haven't and you should you you need to plan it you need to be transparent about it Council wants to be transparent great but you can only be as transparent as the information you have from your staff and you don't have this information what's up I'm sorry I lost track of time I gotta go thank you thank you Donna pict Nicole Hayes followed by Steve paage followed by Barry Hall hello my name is Nicole Hayes I'm a conservation scientist with American Wild Horse Country conservation I want to thank this Council for your work on the fencing project I know you guys have really put in countless hours working as best possible with what you got um and we really appreciate that I do want to Second what Tracy said I'm I'm very concerned about the single opening when you have over 2,000 ft of fence line that's brand new that these animals do not know about and you put one single access point biologically you're looking at some potentially disastrous which unfortunately did see earlier with the full photo um so just want to again thank you um just going to reiterate what Tracy said and maybe ask for several openings especially as these animals are learning new patterns to get to the water um to be able to do that safely because I think that's what everyone is concerned about it's just the safety and the welfare okay thank you all right thank you so so much Nicole Steve Paige followed by Barry Hall I'm Steve paig um I just want to reiterate the need for the opening of the fence so horses do have access to water the the problem with such a small area with hundreds of horses um I I think has already been stated that you know you have thousands of feet of fence they are not aware of where the opening is um and then the fencing project um that just needs to happen sooner thank you okay thank you sir Barry Hall good afternoon um city council um mayor shivi um my name is Perry Hall and I'm here to speak about um uh item D1 the P the proposed zoning changes changing the zoning codes is a Monumental decision that will forever change the character and quality of life for the citizens of Reno citizens who purchased a home in neighborhoods zoned for single family bought it with the expectation and the faith that it would remain as such although you have done some Outreach about the proposed changes respectfully it has not been enough um not enough people are aware of of what you are considering I only found out about the uh changes being proposed uh today by reading the barber brief written by Lisa Barber and if not for the barber brief I would not be here today speaking making my voice heard I did an informal survey in my neighborhood near the ranch uh in the old Northwest near Rancho Sam raell no one I talked with was aware of the proposed changes um they're too busy working trying to put food on the table and put gasoline in their vehicles um it should be noted that working people are not able to attend a city council meeting during the day I hope you will keep that in mind I'd like to say a few words about the latest catchphrase upzoning um up zoning sounds so positive it sounds so happy it sounds so good like like it's really something wonderful for homeowners but actually Upson is just a clever word for dismantle single family home neighborhoods um it's upzoning is a clever word for changing the neighborhood into neighborhoods with two plexes four plexes and even eight plexes and I will as I will show you in a minute the decision to change the zoning codes is too important to be decided by seven members of the Planning Commission and seven members of the Reno city council please do the right thing and uh put this issue on a ballot so the people of Reno can vote on it that's the that's what we do democracy and let the people speak um I have several examples of UPS zoning in some neighborhoods where it's already been done here's um will it show on the camera it will okay oh sorry this is um a a duplex on Carin Street there are probably five residential houses left on Carin Street I didn't take pictures of those because out of respect for their privacy here's a corlex on Carlin Street they took out the landscaping and the trees to put in a parking lot just like the Joanie Mitchell song with we PVE Paradise and put in a parking lot if anybody remembers that song yeah a single family home is somebody's Paradise their little Paradise here's a fourplex no Landscaping a parking lot that's what Reno is going to look like here's a fourplex no Landscaping a parking lot here's an aplex no Landscaping a parking lot that's what Reno is going to look look like if you make these zoning changes but not in the neighborhoods that are uh what are they called protected the where they really have HOA the thank you so much for being here okay Madam vice mayor with that we have no additional public comment it should be noted that there were 12 commenters present throughout A3 that did not wish to speak but have submitted comments um based on various topics we also received 67 letters or voicemails of correspondents which have been distributed to the Reno city council zero of them in favor of various items seven in opposition and six of concern again those have been distributed and are available on reno.gov meetings Madam clerk when you say there was 57 Voice or 67 but then you said seven in opposition six they were clearly opposed to something six opposed or seven opposed seven oh I'm sorry Michael we'll get you next um seven letters of opposition on various topics and 60 letters of concern 60 I thought you said six so I knew it didn't add up and got 67 60 in opposition SE or 60 in concern and seven in opposition okay and I apologize uh we have Michael Michelangelo oronda that also wants to make public comments sure and no one online no one online okay thanks and just so everyone knows I'm planning a break after this last comment um and it'll probably be about a half hour okay thanks Michael please go ahead good after afternoon now actually vice mayor de and uh city council um I am Michelangelo Randa I'm a resident of War I I'm also a candidate for Reno city council award 6 um I'm here to talk about item D1 I wanted to stay through but I don't think I can make it I'll be going to a doctor's appointment soon so I just wanted to talk a little bit about now um when it comes to the upzoning and when it comes to um trying to gain attainable housing um a lot of our neighbors here already spoke so I'm not going to hit on those but I do want to give a little bit of number statistics when it comes to it so with the up zoning if we were to build more duplexes and triplexes it's not really in my mind an ideal state of creating more attainable or affordable housing um so to give a little bit of wrap around of that um right now the medium sales for the state of Nevada or Arena specifically is around 517,000 for a new home uh our medium income is 104,000 uh and so it's not really if we build more duplexes or triplexes a really attainable way for people to purchase those or to have those um so the other thing with that is as well as as current zoning codes when it comes to parking are allowing for open spaces around those developments one of the things I did as I spoke up at the recent NAB meeting where we were talking about the development happening at ranchera and meeting minimum parking requirements for those houses that are four to five bedrooms they only wanted to put in 1.5 parking spaces per house that's just not okay it's making it more congested more unsafe for emergency services to get there one of the areas that I'm also uh researching and focusing on is Stepping Stones over in board two which is right next to the new school jwood raw those are all duplexes being put into there and I could already see a little bit of backlash of that because of the parking situation a lot of those residences are parking on the street that leads up to jwood Raw it's also creating a congestion when entering and exiting the school for drop off for students that are there so it's it's up zoning as though it seems really great to provide more housing for our city when we're thinking about creating more density in infill it's not really ideal for the normal resident of Reno it's not going to help the normal resident of Reno attain that the bonus density is also great I think it has a really great floor plan to it when no pun intended but I think that instead of giving away the bonus density or just giving it away without any type of um setback we should be collaborating with the developers and requiring them to look into to other ways to get the bonus density one of the amazing projects that happened in South Areno is an NOA where it has mixed use what allows for the new development to happen but it also allowed for actual affordable housing to be into there to be integrated into that community so I think that if developers want to come and develop the areas they need to additionally be held accountable for developing those areas and adding to the community rather than just building the house and selling it off uh another thing I want to put out there is um when it comes to affordable housing the incomes in Reno just aren't there um I gave up my position as a part-time parent educator so someone could have it full-time but even them working full-time they're only making ,550 an hour um which is not affordable or even hits the Ami Mark of the 52,0 860 and so we need to think about how those people I like what you said about teachers need to be here Educators other public service members need to be here so we need to make that a little bit more affordable thank you Mr Randa thank you and I just want to mention the Inova project that was just referenced I'm extremely proud um it was the first 8020 um affordable housing project mixed with a market rate housing project in the state of Nevada and to my knowledge still the only one I wrote letters I advocated for it and we got it and I'm really proud of it so thanks for mentioning it um I have been alerted by our staff that it would be helpful to um pull the items off the consent let's approve the consent agenda before we break but I really do need to break we've had um we've been here for about 2 and a half hours and we need to get up for a minute let me just pull out my agenda SEC so Madame vice mayor can we first go to approval of the agenda item A4 I don't know if ACM attorney has any changes or modifications looking for a motion to approve the agenda oh just to note for the M I do not have changes but getting that into the record before you take your motion okay vot to approve second thank you I have a motion for Mr ree second from Mr Martinez uh any comments on the agenda all right all in favor please say I I any opposed motion passes unanimously and now we're going to uh do we need to do the minutes we don't have any minutes okay there you go um so I'm looking for items that Council would like to pull off for discussion and I'll start to my left if I may miss Ebert yeah uh B6 okay b28 and B30 b31 and b32 oop sorry that was a little fast sorry B6 b28 B3 no not B6 b26 oh 26 I did it again b28 B30 b31 and b32 okay thank all right uh Mr Reese nothing for you um Mr Martinez for you may miss breus yeah I'd like to pull off B4 B21 B24 B25 and that's it okay before could you read those again before B21 B24 B25 and that's it okay uh Miss Taylor if you're on no Madam Vice May nothing uh Madame mayor do you have anything to pull my items were pulled already all right and I I have no additional items and after this we're going to do the motion uh Mr Reese so moved second all right we have a motion for Mr Reese second for Mr Martinez any further comment all in favor please say I I any opposed all right motion passes unanimously and Madame mayor you were out of the room but I promis the team a break for 30 minutes um so we'll return at 10:5 four yeah excuse me with item B4 B4 will be the first item yes with be we will go to the pulled items um after that so everyone knows where they are in the order thank you very much I'm I just want to point out vice mayor yes there are quite a bit of liquor licenses on this agenda um so I just want everyone to know uh sort of what the city standards are our staff can help you um go through past meetings uh what sort of our um policies are when it comes to those business licenses um because they have been something that we have been paying attention to um and calls for service for the police department so I would just ask that many of you please be respectful of your neighbors and each other and congratulations on your new business super exciting all right all right so we'll return about 10:5 thank you there going to be C too I figured is that enough time yeah e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e I am Madam clerk thank you so much I know we have a very packed agenda please don't take it personal counsel I am going to try to uh follow our Council rules so we can stay on track and actually also have our our staff um get home at a reason able hour I think what time did Mr pingry get home last time 10:30 10:30 and I just felt so bad over one small item so I want to make sure that um you know we just stay on track and I don't mean to cut you off at your three minutes but uh I just want to make sure we can be efficient all right Madam clerk I'm going to send it right to you thanks Madame mayor just for the record we're reconvening at22 and council member eert is absent and council member Taylor is present um on Zoom okay thank you so much so we're moving to our first item today which is item B4 and this was pulled by council member breus okay councilman breus take it away yeah I guess this is a business license uh for non-restricted gaming on Four Street um is this a non-restricted gaming so how many gaming devices are involved in something like that Lance brto director of business licensing for the record uh this location is a non-restricted uh gaming license currently they have 23 machines or they did prior to the ceasing of operations on the last license and they plan on operating 23 machines going forward I thought it was 30 I thought you sent me the information and they showed 30 that's right I did some clarification on that they applied for 30 just to say we may put in more at some point but there are 23 that we've been operating there's 23 that are operating now and they just did that as a safeguard since it's non-restricted so long as they were to contain gaming to that area they could add machines but uh at this point just 23 well 23 makes you a uh the only zoning use I see for 23 devices is a casino or a hotel with non-restricted gaming and if you need to bring someone up from planing I get that are they a hotel with non-restricted gaming they're not this is a grandfathered location and non-conforming use it's been a gaming non-restricted gaming location since 1975 and uh this is just simply a change in ownership well to that n since you mentioned the word grandfathering also known as non-conforming 18143 non-conforming Gaming use if the application for conditional use permit is conjunction with the proposed resumption or expansion of a non-conforming use then the city council and the Planning Commission shall make the following findings did this go to the Planning Commission the city council it did not it wouldn't be required to this isn't an expansion or resumption it's simply a change in ownership so if the lense he was to expand on that and to say move into another portion of the building then a conditional use permit would definitely be required and where do you have all that tracked down because I didn't see any of this in the staff report that's just gener that's just information that we've learned from the planning department on analysis of the application okay so if these 23 devices want to increase by one or to other types of gaming or if they relocate within the floor area then this expansion provision comes in that's what I'm to understand I I would leave the interpretation to the planning dep um I'm happy to bring up uh Miss F to elaborate 18143 yeah let's get that on the record um because I did watch The Gaming Control Board hearing and obviously we're in a dual regulatory environment but it seemed like the gaming control board approved for 30 uh actually they just approved for a non-restricted license they did not limit there is no limitation on slots in in that license at all I thought they said you have to come back if you do more at it I thought that's what the Gaming Control Board they didn't condition as such they conditioned it to have surveillance mirrors and they limited it to if they wanted to add table games they would have to come back and ask table games so they can go from 23 to 150 gaming devices and not have to go back to the Gaming Control Board Pro the state correct okay but for here i' would like and I'll I'll yield my time and let you move around to the rest of the body thank you okay uh any other questions from Council Members councilman re thank you Madame mayor uh for my part as I have said historically in the time I've served on Council if we intend to pull the gaming or other privileged licenses we have to let those folks know ahead of time that we intend to do it and so I I just it is always very grubby not to have those people here to be able to answer questions so um and we've had people who didn't know they were going to be on an agenda and race down to make it so I don't have any questions just it always is troubling not to get people their due process all right thank you any other questions all right counil uh breus go right ahead yeah as the senior member and someone who was very involved in uh business licensing for over a decade for the city I think that's not accurate statement that was made I think that the business license division or at least they used to let anyone know when your applications coming on the agenda you may be asked to make comments and so I hope everyone is aware and you're letting people know when they come in on a privilege this is the date and you it's up to you if you want to be there or not so I I just want to make that um difference of knowledge and understanding known so 1801 403 I would like to hear from the planning department okay I would like to hear if 1801 403 a conditional use permit if this is enlarged extended or changed would that be required then Angela F assistant director for development services for the record they're not required this is this is they are not required to do a conditional use permit this is not an expansion or enlargement this is an ex existing non-conforming they they do already have gaming and they're just continuing that gaming under a new ownership well let me ask you something because I've did a lot of administration of gaming regulations here and Mr um uh Fado mentioned it so you know they have 23 devices correct and you know do you have a drawing of where those devices are on the floor we do so any change of the devices if they you see a tenant improve Improvement and they want to go into a different part of the building then does 1801 403 come in that would be an expansion of the square footage of the gaming area then yes okay thank you very much I just I didn't see any of this in the staff report and I've been around doing this for over 25 years uh since 1998 and I think we've only had maybe three or four non-restrictive gaming uses coming out without hotel rooms so it is a very unique creature and not only that and maybe since I've got a few more minutes this is in what's known as the neon line District correct correct does the neon line development agreement allow Jacob's entertainment to do another casino there's no specific language in the neon line development agreement about casinos okay so they could or they could not do one there's no restrictions in the development agreement or any anything related to that topic they would follow standard zoning code and the standard zoning code would allow for another hotel casino with rooms correct with a conditional use permit on this particular site or if you're just talking in general the entire neon line I'd have to give you a different answer depending on what the zoning is depending on the parcel okay so I'm I'm talking with rooms is gaming with room hotel casino non-restricted allowed in the zoning District of the neon line there's multiple zoning districts within the neon line okay okay but this one this unique zoning uh gaming operation without rooms would have to come through for a conditional use permit correct okay thank you very much I appreciate it I won't make the motion Madam mayor because I believe that this should have been something addressed in the development agreement if the council was so set on doing another development agreement and advancing our policy goals for this area but um I'm happy to entertain okay you know thank you and and I appreciate that I would just all right uh then I will make a motion to approve second I have a motion I have a second all those in favor say I I I all those oos motion carries okay B21 councilwoman breus go ahead yeah just a just a second Madame mayor I need to move something do you want me to come back to you no no I've got it was was I goad 21 oh yes this is the annual review for the safe scrap safescape um now uh I I don't believe I was supportive of this enhanced um regulation but you know I cannot REM call actually but so be it but I wanted to ask you about this one it is the what's it called um I believe it's Roy Fosters yeah and you showed some calls for service that they had how many were those for this one I think it's in your staff report I I've got to go back to your B21 your attachment I think your I think it was in your staff report right yes I have it right here um from August 1st 2023 to January 31st 2024 there were 57 and comparing that to last year's same six-month period there were 78 a decrease of 21 okay but the calls for service for the right way the year that their license was revoked was 370 the calls for service for the lak mill Lodge were 224 during a year period so this one was 57 during that's not a six-month period was it uh yes August September October November December and January okay so 57 so they reached 114 calls for service so exactly 100 fewer than the lake Mill Lodge in 2022 okay all of 2022 so what is the threshold upon which staff is going to recommend we pull a license because I see is it 50% of the lake Mill Lodge or equal to the lake Mill Lodge what what is the threshold because the council wanted these to come back you're presenting the same calls for service information that you presented when we revoked the lake Mill and the um RightWay so I just want to know what the threshold is because I I I think that we need to be specific all right thank you um just really quickly Mr Woodley thank you so much for getting up I was looking at you to um come up and also can you address it wasn't just for that correct okay I just ma'am just make sure it's on the record good morning Alex Woodley director of Code Enforcement um so ma'am this is Apple and oranges because what you have here is something safescape with all the businesses within the safescape zone what we had specifically with the RightWay and the lake Mill Lodge they went through their process of a suspension or replication of the license which goes to the hearing officer that does not come to you until after it goes to the hearing officer if they appeal it so they're two different completely different um circumstances thanks for clarifying that so are you sending that to this one to the hearing officer no ma'am no this this is this is before you as part of the other 14 that is here on this agenda so that's a separate item if and when we have any problems at that location or any location any business then we will pursue the necessary steps that we have in code to pursue that license so 114 a year are not at the step where you're going to take them to the hearing officer I mean we're talking hypothetical at this point in time I don't have any other circumstances that would require us to look at it more closely we had other issues we're not talking about that on the agenda so I don't want to talk about another business that we already adjudicated but we did have issues at these other businesses that we dealt with you know I didn't see that I mean they passed liquor you know underage stings and that sort of thing so I don't know I'm just pulled this because I wanted to call out to the council that I think we have an arbitrary standard that we established you know you had the lak mill in the right way that got their licenses taken for calls for service and that was the strongest Juris strongest um point I think that was made you know other things were like moving a cooler and I think you have a new way you're dealing with coolers and so on under your memorandum of understanding so it really was calls for service and here we have you're over time okay Council I'm going to just move around any um questions go ahead councilwoman Ebert hi um I think this is for Alex again um and I I have a similar question for uh as council member braus so um you said it was a different process that happened for some other liquor stores that got shut down um do we have a process or a threshold that says this many calls for service is going to trigger that this license goes to whatever review that is and not necessarily come to council but correct that process that started for those other stores what is the triggering event so the triggering event um I'm trying to avoid having to talk explicitly about especially with if we have a I don't know where we are with a criminal case that we have related to the other businesses so I don't want to get into that but there is no threshold specific to calls for service that would trigger it alone for us to pursue the evocation of a license so I guess what I'm asking is do we have a set standard so that we're not going Case by case do we have so that we're enforcing things equally um do we have a set guideline that says this has to happen this has to happen and then we will review your uh status of your license it could be a combination of calls for service and whatever the other specifics are but do we have a standard guideline because I'm really afraid of doing Case by case and not having a standard um you know kind of playbook for for dealing with these so I what I would say to you if if you want a standard is I would say a public nuisance standard so if what we have are um significant events that impact the community the neighborhood or the safety of the individuals that surround that area or that visit that location then that's what we're going to use I can't sit here stand here and say 20 30 40 50 60 because you can have 20 calls but if you have two homicides that's significant you know you could have a hundred calls and have nothing you know it it so I would never recommend a specific number it has to be looked at comprehensively with the intent and the idea of the best interest of the community safety and that's how we have to look at these things in order to pursue and if we're going to pursue I mean keep in mind we don't do this very often I mean in what 10 years we've pursued two licenses it has to be significant yeah well my concern is that when we review those other licker stores we did not have the degree of specifics on the calls that we do in our staff reports now so we don't know if those calls were for things that aren't important they certainly weren't for a couple hundred homicides right so since we don't have that to compare to see if they're Apples to Apples um I'm just concerned that we're not holding all these liquor stores to the same uh guidelines or rules whatever you want to call it enforcement well what I what I would ask for the whole council is that you trust your police department and your code enforcement professionals amen because we do see them on a daily basis you see five on an agenda we see 500 100 in a year so that's what we can only ask of you because we do have a process it doesn't come straight to you we have to go to a separate hearing when we have that circumstance when we have those situations and that hearing officer has the ability to tell us no you're wrong I'm not approving it move forward or I'm going to Grant what the city's asking for it only comes to you if it gets appealed and we have never appealed it before you we've lost cases not so much business license but other code cas other Enforcement cases and we don't bring it forward we deal with it whatever the hearing officer tells us we need to do to rectify the problem or readjust you know how we approach it so we do do that but when you do see it before you it's because it's already been through another hearing process and then it gets appealed and then it comes before you so it does have an existing process two step three steps because we do our enforcement our own and then we go to a hearing and then if they appeal it then it comes to you okay thank you so much excellent just really quickly Alex so I don't forget and then I'm going to send it over to councilman ree I also believe there were um issues with fire that is correct yes ma'am we did we had several fire code violations it wasn't just police it was also fire yes ma'am um okay code enforcement yeah and then also I would think and and I don't remember and maybe wouldn't pull this but Health Department cuz some food was expired on one of the businesses that is correct yes we had uh there were items in there that was over a year expired mhm yes ma'am okay thank you so much Alex that's super helpful all right councilman ree go ahead thank you Mr Woodley don't go too far it seems one of the themes today and I I sort of want to start with uh Mr Shipman and Mr Hall um the agenda is about um this particular license uh safe Street compliance for Roy Fosters but we spent a lot of time talking about and Rel litigating a case from a year and a half ago and I want to make sure that we're not violating the open meeting law that were on the right agenda item yes I mean I would just caution everybody that not to focus on those cases I mean I think they are important just to kind of frame this so I think that's within the scope but um going down rabbit holes I wouldn't advise the council to do that okay thank you for that Guidance the second thing is as I think Mr Woodley you pointed out um there really is a high degree of of trust that I place in you in your office you have proven to be a a person of incredible integrity and led us through some very difficult things so I want to thank you for that whether it's this location or any other I sort of fundamentally want to understand are those um complaints uh come in through various sources is that true that is true yes sir and uh our complaint process our code process is complaint driven is that correct yes sir meaning you are not out there going on investigative Journeys to find violations they're complaint driven that is correct yes sir um and that you were work carefully with our Police Department as to any particular license holder to understand the nature of the community um danger posed by that when those commitments come or when those complaints come to you is that fair that is fair yes sir okay and with regard to the downtown safescape compliance uh related issues because we've had now I think there were something like 26 of them on this agenda and I want to focus on that um not the individual applicant or or a particular owner but how are we doing out there in the in the universe in your experience with this particular type of code schema designed to provide um enforcement mechanisms and it could be something Mr Fado has to jump into I just want to make sure I'm giving it to the right person no no absolutely because of um I started it back in 2019 and Mr Fado he finished it and he took it made it a home run but I will say and I appreciate because he did invite me to go out in the field with his staff that were conducting these um inspections and and I was very impressed and I even put that in writing to him um with the results of the work that his staff has done they've done an amazing job and there's been all in the positive is what we've seen great thank you so much thank you all right um and then quick question I just want I want this on the record Lance come on up what did you do in your in your previous job I was uh a supervisor of tax and license division for the Nevada Gaming Control Board so oh for the Nevada gaming control board so I would imagine you're an expert I might call myself one okay I just wanted to make sure because we're talking about slot machines and those kinds of things and um and so I know that you know that like the back of your hand so I just want to make sure sure okay thank you so much maybe some um council members didn't know that oh Naomi didn't know it but so I'm just saying the Lance is sort of an expert in gaming so anyway um any other councilman breus go ahead Madam may I have a question if you don't mind I'm so sorry we forget that you're up there go ahead uh councilwoman Taylor and then I'll go to councilwoman breus uh thank you and I think um councilman ree was was getting to this point but I will just try and make it a little bit clearer Lance um this is this is a conversation about a bigger discussion of our review process on the downtown safe skape compliance with all of these agenda items and I'm just curious I wasn't a part of that discussion but what have you seen overall um again is this a new process relatively new so there wouldn't be a ton of comparative data that we would be looking at and then secondly what are you seeing overall from the implementation of this council's downtown safe skape compliance um thank you for the question I'm I I actually prepared a small presentation if it would be beneficial to the the rest of the council members that don't know this this regulation so much they weren't maybe here when it passed but um it was just kind of an overview of what how how we got here and what what we would have expected to get from this compliance I think we need to move on I mean we're hear it we want we want to hear it well as a senior member maybe you would let other people see things that you haven't got to see before and I think again the question is the street it's the safe scrape compliance program not individual business and I I want to be clear I have never once that I can remember if a council member wants to see a presentation or anything from staff I have never um denied that and so for everyone out of respect for the body um if they think that it helps them with more education or background then I'm all for it whether you think you are or not so sure it's just a few slides and maybe some light on this so no we're looking forward to it go go ahead not to mention can I just mention staff you guys bless you I don't know where that came from oh I love Nathan it's over there H um but not to mention I do know this is a real fact that some of our team they spend a lot of time working on some of these presentations and I would bet lose sleep at night uh knowing that they have to come before Council because public speaking is one of the number one fears that's uh the dentist flying and public speaking um and so my point is I think that the team puts a lot of work into them and um sometimes we probably don't give them the the credit that's due or the time so well thanks anyway take it away okay first off uh this item aligns with the economic and Community Development uh and Public Safety strategies just to get that out of the way um so the ordinance was adopted in January 2022 but the work began on this process back in 2016 um I won't go too deep into the specifics but these B these bold outlines you can see at First Council had concerns on the current processes and regulations for surround uh surrounding package alcohol beverages particularly in the downtown area staff was instructed to research best practices relating to the approval of these licenses in terms of geographical location proximity to residential and recreational facilities and possible conditions of approval so taking that the renoa police department code enforcement and development services coordinated and presented possible changes related to alcohol accessibility fresh food availability and general safety the process was obviously taking a long time and Council took it upon them to Institute an moratorium on package alcohol licenses in 2019 after that covid hit so it further delayed the process and then in 2021 we got back on track crafted the ordinance and brought it to be introduced so some of the main takeaways when it was adopted in 2022 are are on the screen here um first of all the safescape regulations were already in existence in Title 18 they were moved to Title 5 for the ease of navigation and accessibility for for the public secondly fresh frood Provisions were added single serve products were limited safescape area was expanded and more council discretion was added for applications and lastly while we're here today the annual reviews were implemented so this is the area that we're talking about so inside the downtown area is what we refer to as a downtown safescape area all of chapter 50723 which is the safescape regulations applies to this area no single serve alcohol is allowed secondly the orange shaded area around that is called the downtown buffer area and basically the same standards apply here except the single serves can be sold during the night hours from 5:00 p.m. to 8:00 a.m. the green section on the right hand side is the east four Street buffer area and that has the same restrictions as the orange area so again they have to apply or they have to abide by all safescape standards but they can they can offer single serve alcohol um as it's defined from the hours of 5:00 P p.m. to 8 a.m. so all included in this area there's 35 package alcohol licenses that actually apply to the safescape there are more than that but they meet the exemptions of being say a restaurant or a bar they're not necessarily a retail store so again I said uh that safescape was already in existence these are some of the standards um I took this from from a flyer that we hand out to the lienes um we talk about multiple security standards surveillance criteria product storage guidelines visibility standards things like that these were all in exist distance um but when we came and did the the amendment these are some of the new Provisions as I said uh we we distilled Spirits served in containers less than 375 Millers are not allowed um wine less than 75 mm which is a anything less than a full bottle of wine is not allowed and then the beer products uh are not to be not to be sold in less than 20 ounce containers unless a four pack or greater from the manufacturer lastly and one of the most important things is operators are required to dedicate 10% of their retail floor space the Fresh Foods so obviously we had to create a compliance program uh inventory mapping checklist procedures it's been there's there's a lot that's gone into this um each review takes approximately four to five hours of Staff time from start to finish so this batch alone is looking at like 65 to 80 hours just to get these in front of you today um between the compliance officers preparation and field work completion review by me generation of the staff report there's a lot of lot of information that comes in and uh takes a lot of time so as far as what we've been enforcing um as I said that the ordinance went into effect January 22 and it gave everybody 18 months to come into compliance so in June 2023 compliance visits were made to remind stakeholders of what was going to happen and to educate anybody that needed information July 2023 it went into effect but in an effort to show good faith and ensure lenses had ample time to prepare for these changes we didn't be be the inspections until October 2023 so lastly what to expect going forward um once we get back on track as far as the timeline of all these and when you should see them um you should expect a few see a few of these a month there will be times when none of them are set to expire but it's reasonable to see a couple um I want to make sure that everybody knows as we had that discussion earlier that they're all going to be placed on the consent agenda however you can expect items to be flagged that would require your attention you know any sort of anomalies anything that's out of the ordinary um and then just to answer your last question council member Taylor was uh and the question that was brought up earlier of these 16 everybody is in total compliance um we made multiple visits and if we caught anything we gave the Len the the time to fix the problem to address it and then move forward came back and checked on them and everybody at this time is in compliance on these 16 so I think the program seems to be uh it it seems to be working it'll smooth out as we keep going as the lenes get used to seeing us on an annual basis or even more if necessary and uh so I think it's productive so far any questions I'm happy to answer all right great job love it love it love it okay councilman breus go ahead yeah I mean I pulled this and are calls for service part of the state safescape calls for service are not directly outlined in safescape no okay so they're in the staff report and so I'm having a hard time understanding what I'm to draw from them and to be honest with you you know that was a big objection to me from the two the two that we pulled uh and I still remain that you know steadfast that they were particularly the the right way you know right across from the bus depot you know the calls for service were a big indicator why it they got pulled and um you know it's not even part of the ordinance so you know unfortunate for those folks but um the last question I have is the cap there is because you didn't mention it and I know you know it's companion piece there's a cap on package liquor in the downtown area the you know inside the orange bubble that's correct it's 18 right now and and what is the cap 18 right we're right at the cap okay well at least the two that got taken away didn't go to the next person in line you know we at the cap so um I just I wanted to know where we're at on that I can be comfortable um making a motion for this one if someone else doesn't want to I do want to just address your calls for service question real quick just um when these I did put a little paragraph in the staff reports on each one that basically says that during the adoption of the in introduction stages of ordinance 661a Council expressed interest in calls for service when conducting these reviews accordingly the calls for service were compiled for the months preceding and compared to the same period in the prior year a summary of the DAT is attached so was basically just going with you know Council Council was interested in it it's not in the in the black and white of the regulation so that's why it was just supplemental information for that's fine you know but someone could have a chop shop open up next door or or you know a drug Den whatever and you know then their numers shoot up so I I was very concerned about that um I will make the motion if no one else hold on let me see if there's anyone else all right um councilman ree go ahead Madame mayor I just want to say to Mr Fado thank you for the explanation and the presentation what I will say is if you believe that there are ones which are going to be Flags please make sure that you let those folks know who whose licensees may be at a heightened level of view that they should be here absolutely I will and just for for the for clarity all 16 that were on this agenda were all notified as well so even good or bad we and I don't mean just notifying that we put you on an agenda but if you're flagging it just say you might want to be here right because it's it's always a curious thing when someone pulls one of those license and no one is here to respond on behalf of those people and it's just not right sure understood okay uh Council Ebert no okay all right councilwoman uh breus give me a motion okay I have a motion I have a second all those in favor say I all opposed all right motion carries okay thank you thanks Lance great job where we at all right mayor shuy we're moving on to item B24 pulled by council member breus okay thank you I was council member can you turn your sorry yeah yeah um B 24 is an amended contract of services for the clean and safe Patrol um I was just a little confused about where they are being deployed this this contract uh Cynthia sparza for the record and this contract is a 12-month contract that will coordinate Outreach um security Outreach efforts with the clean and safe team uh we previously had a pilot program and this will um extend those services and help mitigate activity in areas that are not intended for public use that present public Hazard and safety hazards well is one of these the car's campus that is not um City Reno property so this would focus on areas that are owned by the City of Reno the city doesn't own the car's campus that transitioned to W County okay okay so um what are some of the examples of these so an example could be um areas adjacent to train tracks that uh Belong To The City of Reno an easement perhaps it could also be a culvert um in advance of a rainstorm um and we could also um deploy security support in areas that are frequently visited um and or become a hot spot for just general debris abandonment as well okay so the clean and safe team gets a call to an area and this is added protection for them to then go do their work it it provides fle flexibility the intent with this contract would be to provide support seven days a week specifically when clean and safe is not available um after hours as well oh so they could be making contact with people living in encampments this group they could potentially yes are they trained do you have procedures for them to address this population that would be part of the onboarding but again this is all in coordination with clean and safe Outreach okay I won't make a motion but I I just I appreciate my questions all being answered all right then I'll make a motion well Mrs bar I have one question go ahead sorry that's my fault go ahead let me ask about a specific experience over the weekend there was a fire of an RV adjacent to the hillside uh cemetery and what happened was the RV was put out thankfully uh but the in the items in the RV were left there along the side and so I got some folks who reached out to me and we quickly sort of jumped into place to find a way to clean that up the Hillside Cemetery doesn't really have the resources or finances to do that and by the time I had sent contractors out to do it on Monday morning it had already been cleaned up who is responsible for that good work you know I'm not sure who addressed that over the weekend we were informed and were ready to deploy resources but it sounds like it may have been addressed um by someone not affiliated with clean and safe okay so I I think it was the City of Reno though still and so I just want to say thank you to whoever's out there listening I thought it might have been part of your team but it sounds like it was uh maybe there are some other heroes in my assumption is it's uh maintenance and operations I think so too so we'll say thank you to them appreciate you absolutely happy to move to support right any other discussion okay I have a motion in a second all those in favor say I all those opposed motion carries all right Madam clerk back to you I guess we would actually go to what item B25 Council M breus yeah hi um let's see you are not the person whose name is on this staff report right what's your name Senior Management analyst for the record okay yeah they've got Chris harp Harper here this is um with the same vendor I think that the last one was with that's correct but different people U managing the contract from our side I was just really confused about what this is particularly the statement that following approval of this amended contract to increase the contract we'll have an interlocal with Washo and Reno and Reno's waso is going to reimburse us 50% of cost retroactive what what happened here retroactive usually means there was some procurement irregula ity or did we I mean I just I can't make sense this this is just an administrative cleanup item so um Council approved this in June of 2023 uh wo County and City of Reno were splitting the costs of security dispatch and the original contract only showed the amount that City of Reno was going to pay um when we went to write the interlocal our attorneys pointed out that we need to have the full amount so this is to correct that capture the full amount and then we'll be back at the next council meeting with the interlocal okay the interlocal I'm just confused why do we have Washo County you know I guess my bigger question but I won't do it here is you know we have our own dispatch why do we have a separate dispatch but this is Dispatch over in the parking garage there just for I don't know who they're dispatching but why is Washo County involved in dispatching out of our parking lot so this is security dispatch not emergency dispatch um an Allied is contracted both with both the City of Reno and Washo County yeah I just I was wondering why we can't get an efficiency of one dispatch but okay but what is Washo County where where do they dispatch waso County resources to it's for any security of their buildings or our building so we're just sharing the Dispatch Center okay so they also have a separate contract then with this like the one we just did they have a separate contract with this Allied okay correct okay now it's a little bit clearer okay so interlocal next meeting correct okay okay I I will make a motion on this one then I have a motion I have a second all those in favor say I I all those opposed motion carries unanimously Miss Smith would you just state your name and title for the record please Christy Smith Senior Management analyst for the record okay great I'm going to send it over to b26 b26 uh I believe councilman maner hi I just had a question on this I I read through the staff report and I saw the lighting was for where did I see it pole mounted fixtures where where are these going to be at uh Tim andrick Street cision manager maintenance operations so these are for the Sternberg lights that dec of lighting in downtown within the B okay and then I saw double candy cane so those are the ones that have the double fixture that come down okay we do have a single fixture we have ballards and then we have a double fixture the Sternberg is actual brand which is a city standard but it's a decorative fixture is what it what it is okay motion to approve all right thank you I have a motion a second all those in favor say I I all those opposed motion carries unanimously all right thanks you guys for hanging out so long I appreciate you okay next b28 yep b28 pulled by council member Ebert so question on these do do we know yet where we're going to be installing these or how how we're going to identify what areas we're going to be installing these so Tim Hendrick streets division manager main stops um so these are these are the safety devices within the traffic signal cabinets that pretty much they control a signal it keeps it from going from having two phases start at once um or to put the system in Flash and so these are going to be um Replacements as far as if we have any that go out um or that aren't work functioning properly they could be for new installs if we have system um areas going in that are could be a new um a new light going in but but mainly their their placements as we have these go out Carson City no longer uses this this um type of device they've gone to a different standard and they have a surplus um we were lucky enough to have hired one of their techs um which opened the line of communication and they were gracious enough to donate these to us great so just kind of as needed we don't necessarily have a spot for all of them now but just kind of great okay thank you motion to approve all right I have a motion and a second all those in favor say I all those opposed motion carries unanimously all right item B30 uh Council Ebert take it away I don't know if we can open B 30 b31 and what is it b32 together I just had questions about the the different costs for the Disposable uh the disposal of uh E-Waste and hazardous waste okay uh and I think we can vote on a block of that okay hi good afternoon uh abig or Community LS on for the record um so to answer your question council member Ebert you're interested in the cost in the difference in the cost correct okay so for B30 uh that is word two so these funds were pulled from arpa uh as you guys know the council members had allocated arpa funds uh for their Ward each council member had the same amount um but they're allowed to allocate it doesn't have to be the full amount it can be 12,000 uh for B30 in that case and then for b31 uh W five that was the amount they had left over from their previous allocations okay so it's not that this Services provided are different it's just that's yes that was the fund that they had left over it's still the $6,000 that was um previously discussed for ew and haway across the board okay so it's like 6,000 per Ben for one 6,000 for the ew 6,000 for the Hazardous Waste like that the what's provided is still the same it's just this is what okay that's what I wasn't sure if there was a different jump in here I'm so sorry so what I was explained to me was that the ewaste was 3,000 and the Hazardous Waste was 3,000 so it each cleanup if you want both that's 6,000 and I'm having two cleanups because my Ward's so big I'm having one in the north and one in the South uh similarly it looks like council member Reese on b32 is doing one cleanup half for hazardous half for East waste what I don't know and I I want to ask a question on council member Taylor's it's not a 6,000 so yes so she only had that uh amount left so the $431 5.33 left in arpa uh she's using discretionary fund to for the balance so hers will also be 6,000 just coming from two pots that was really my question was just you know if there's different you know types of disposal that we could pay for a different amount so thank you the same yes okay all right any other questions I have one question and and that's just to say and this is a more general statement I fundamentally believe that we have to have hazards and e-w at every cleanup because what happens is when when we have had cleanups where they varied so at one cleanup um council members made discretionary funds available to cover the cost which is what council member um Taylor and I did combined to make it happen because we knew it was a larger site but then there were other cleanups where it maybe just slipped the council member's mind or it wasn't within their budget to do it for this year we had people who have brought those things but they get turned away and so when we go out next year of course and and you have done a phenomenal job in hand with and working on this program we just need to make sure that we have everything available for each cleanup we can't have one clean up with it and one without it wherever the funds have to be allocated from let us make strives to do that it just makes it very confusing for the public yeah and Madame mayor yes go ahead yeah um I think this is what we discussed that in order to do the cleanups next year would be 75,000 at least that was the hand number uh I mean what's that from the last meeting from the last meeting uh a budget and we discussed potentially funding that out of contingency because these cleanups are starting as early as you know beginning of n fiscal year which is right after July 1 so I know the first one's in August so um you know we we haven't budgeted but I 100% agree with council member Reese we can have different levels of service at different ws and then disappointed people we're taking a phenomenally successful program with very happy people and suddenly making them very unhappy yeah and that's the last thing we want to do so understood true all right thank you a motion yeah make a motion to approve second I have a motion and a second all those in favor say I I all those opposed motion carries okay next see we're going to head into C items I'm just going to ask Madam clerk if you took a poll on everyone that's in our audience so that we can get them out of here before we move on from this agenda one two and three together one two and three yeah you're open together all right Madame mayor so we're going to move into our public hearing items C1 C2 C3 okay hold on one second oh wait a minute wait a minute wait a minute wait a minute hold on a second hold on a second how do I can I see your one page hold on a second getting an opinion from the city attorney yes okay so uh Madame clerk at this time um hold on a second at this time we'll now open the public hearing has proper notice been given and any correspondents received thank you madam mayor um we have properly noticed items C1 C2 and C3 and for the record we did receive correspondence um two letters of opposition additionally I believe that there's correspondence um that the presentation will provide okay thank you so much um also I'm going to ask council members if they have any disclosures at this time Madam may I do this is council member Taylor all right please go ahead items C1 C2 C3 Madame mayor fellow city council members and Madam clerk in the interest of full transparency and items C12 C C2 and C3 I am disclosing that I serve on the board of directors of the downtown Reno business improvement district the DRP a nonprofit organization said designated by city council to implement a clean and safe program of safety ambassadors and maintenance workers throughout downtown Reno items C1 C2 and C3 involveed drps annual assessments and public hearing for objections on this matter I have S guidance from the city attorney's office here city council appointed me to the DRP board of directors as a director I have a per se commitment in a private capacity to the interest of the DRP pursuant to NRS 281 a065 pr6 in addition I am a bid rate payer and I have a pecuniary interest in the assessment the DRP provides clean and safe services that would otherwise fall to the city to provide because the dr's interest goals and operations closely align with the city's interest goals and operations my commitment in a private capacity to interests of the DRP would not clearly and materially affect the independence of Judgment of a reasonable person in my position to Warrant extension under NRS 281 a42r 3 um let's see while I have a pecuniary interest in the assessment the resulting benefit of detriment occurring to me will not be greater than that occurring to any other member of the bid and a similar rate tier see in regarding Weber com common opinion number 0947 c PR 2009 the fact that I'm a rate pairer will not impact my ability to impartially review and render a decision upon these agenda items Madam clerk please accept this disclosure and Lodge on the record for this meeting and subsequent meetings pertaining to these agenda items thank you all right Madam clerk anyone else all right I have one um in um this is in regards to the GPS tracker that was put on my car fellow city council members and Madam clerk item d34 involves the acceptance of the downtown Reno partnership fiscal year 2025 bid operating plan and budget and fixing the public hearing to receive and fixing the public hearing to receive complaints and objections I understand that Josh Hicks an attorney from McDonald corano represents the bid in this matter in my private life I have retained Adam Hosmer Henner a partner at McDonald corano um to represent me on a civil matter unrelated to the bid or Mr Hicks I've sought guidance from the city attorney's office as a client of McDonald corano I have been advised that I may have a commitment in a private capacity to the interest of McDonald corano percer to NRS 281 a. 65 that said any action that I may take on item d34 would not be reasonably affected by my commitment in a private capacity to the interest of McDonald corano this item has nothing um this this item has nothing to do with my civil case um I just I want to make that clear and I want to make it clear on the record because I'm sure they are watching this meeting okay Madam clerk sending it back to you thank you Madame mayor moving into presentations we are here to discuss uh how we Levy the assessment for the downtown business improvement district this is actually something we've done every year for the last seven eight years uh when the bid was created so we're going to name this tune in three notes uh three different items here um the first part is a is a public hearing which we're in now and that public hearing is to hear any complaints objections and protests to the actual assessment role uh at that time we also review uh hardship requests part two of this is that a resolution is passed dispensing with those objections and uh and protests ratifying the true project costs and then sending that assessment role to the assessor and the last portion is an ordinance introduction essentially um that is how the city actually does the levy levies the assessment so this is the process we take every year uh we came last month in the Downtown Arena partnership introduce their operating budget for the year uh any assessment rate changes the bid uh the downtown Rena partnership board has the ability every year to recommend assessment rate changes boundary line changes I'll remind you that uh this year the downtown Reno partnership board uh approved a 5% decrease in the assessment rate this is the business Improvement District boundary lines everywhere in the red pays the standard assessment rate based on their property values the areas in yellow and green pay an additional assessment rate per linear foot um and that was not changed this past year the linear feet assessment rates so what the bid does it and doesn't do everywhere in downtown Marino much like the rest of the city does receive a base level of services what the business improvement district does is add an additional layer of services for clean and safe programs for economic development for marketing Communications as well as based on those premium Premium Plus Services they get extra graffiti removal weed removal and Virginia Street gets daily maintenance like pressure washing certain things like that and once the bid has those funds the bid contracts back with the City of Reno to take care of some of those maintenance requests so this is the rate assessment rate over the last uh six years and as you notice the rate is relatively stayed unchanged this year is the first year that the downturn partnership agreed to decrease the rate by 5% that's the maximum that they're allowed to do but they kept the premium Premium Plus rates the same even though they cut rates by 5% this year uh because property values went up roughly 9% in the downtown area uh the assessors are paying about 4% the budget for the year is about 4.6% more than the previous year when discussing complaints protests and hardships so we did receive three written objections to the assessment role those are provided to the city clerk we received 17 hardship requests hard ship requests can be sent in they have to be the owners of a primary residence uh they have to be low income and there's different uh levels of that and then they have to sign an affidavit that that is their their annual income if they're eligible uh they are eligible to come before this body and so we did receive 13 eligible hardship requests uh totaling about $4,175 uh if they receive hardship today they'll receive that hardship for five years uh it's an abatement for five years so they won't have to come back year after year after year and there are some hardships that have been approved in previous years that are also taken into account if these hardships are uh approved we amend the assessment role and then we send that to the assessor so that was quick and easy uh so this would end the public hearing and uh we're requesting that approval of the 13 hardship requests be done in the motion I have a question Madam mayor yes go ahead so I didn't hear you were is this all 13 or were there some were not recommending approval uh we're recommending approval all 13 eligible hardship requests yes okay but I mean were only 13 requests made or was there some greater number there were 17 requests made that's what I didn't hear um for for them were ineligible due to income limits or they weren't a primary residence so 17 people applied and you're recommending 13 yes okay thanks Madame mayor may I ask questions right ahead yeah um in last years we've received those applications copies of those I'm not sure that's true those are uh because they have all their in income and personal info okay um we the policy is that our uh housing and neighborhood development team review those income just like they do for income restricted properties uh and so we followed that process you know I'm not entirely sure um on the verification at least we saw the applications and um you know so I'm having a hard time with that um also when you came be and I just want to let the council know because you know I I always felt that I was You Know instrumental in getting this forward because it was the merging of two different assessment districts that when we adopt the downtown plan we're bringing in 1.9 million now we're assessing this area of what 3 is it 3.4 3.8 million 3.8 so you know a 2 million increase since you know 2016 and um we were supposed to do a five-year review under um I think the statute and you said when you came here before that you did The Five-Year review yeah memo has been sent out that that fiveyear uh has been accepted okay well um it was going to be by the council never happened and I I just I'm still having a hard time with this process um I appreciate the fact that they reduced it but you know a lot of people's assessments have gone up that's why we have you know 1.9 to 3.8 now and I absolutely emphatically was not going to continue to do these assessments until we had a transparent you know involved 5-year review which should have happened really two years ago understanding what's working and what's not working I'll call out again to the council that last time we had more to my recollection last year we had more information on the DRP budget and the DRP budget the largest jump last year was in marketing and I took that as an objection also because I never saw why you know someone who owns a you know a unit in the Montage or the ptio should be paying for marketing that was always going to come out of other funds you know they don't they don't get the benefit from that and um this year what is the marketing budget because it was I think it was 300,000 when we stood it up did did you bring I'm not sure that budget was approved but in the last council meeting today the agenda item is just to approve the assessment it's not the drps budget recommendation well it's to approve the assessment that funds the DRP we've had information on the budget as a matter of fact it was in the plan when we set it up in 2017 okay and in previous years we've seen what their budget is and last year I saw an increase of marketing that was very substantial and this year I don't see any numbers for marketing so you don't you don't have any numbers for marketing that was discussed at the last council meeting when the DRP presented their budget um and what did they say which was approved by Council what did they say their marketing budg I don't have that information in front of me okay I think they didn't they didn't disclose so again um this thing expires in 10 years correct it does yes yeah and we're in year eight year eight we're going into year eight councilman breus hold on let me ask other questions okay thanks so much all right any other questions go ahead uh councilman ree thank you madam mayor my question is first for Mr Shipman or Mr Hall the questions about the budget were on the last council meeting correct and so this agenda item is not about the budget is that correct yeah I I believe that's correct so I'm concerned about the open meeting law violation from that perspective are we to be talking about the budget in this agenda item again I I I think you should be talking about the annual assessments I mean I think the question about the budget I I believe council member breus wasn't at the last meeting is that correct no I don't like the individualized nature of this no I'm just I'm just asking because that would I'm just because you didn't get the present did you get the presentation I was here recently when we did have that um forward but I I mean you know because my colleague is so concerned about my behavior here on the dis I'm going to call that out okay wait wait wait and if I might if I might your your honor done done I'm I'm just trying to um go ahead speak keep everybody within the open meeting law and that's the question and and again the what is being presented to council today is the annual assessment and specifically right now the hardship requirements um and you know to the the extent that additional background information needs to be made available that can probably be done after the meeting but um but again yeah I mean to the point let's try to keep it to the annual assessments and not dive into the the budget and X Y and Z so to be clear Mr Shipman I was asking you because I had questions about the budget that I maybe were alighted to because of my colleague's comment but I want to make sure that I address them to the things that are on the agenda and so I'll constrain mine to that um I suppose uh for my part and thank you for the presentation um I wanted to First say um it is my opinion is that the bid has continued to do excellent work um the work that they are doing is transformative for the area that is covered by the bid and so I want to make sure that we continue to allow the bid to be successful um I noticed on the slide that you identified the rates I I not sure why the rates were decreased in one area but stayed the same in the premium meaning um on this slide I would have just expected the rates to have been the same on both of them but they actually made a 5% decrease do you know why property values downtown have been increasing regularly for they had an increase in Revenue related to the increase in property value so they did not need to keep them at the same level correct okay that makes sense to me thank you so much all right hold on one second I just want to be very clear I was very clear at the last couple Council meetings we will go into recess okay if we're going to continue to point the fing fer at each other we tend to do love to do that up here at Star this morning um I felt you know this side was pointing and now I mean you don't get it both ways right so everyone's going to knock it off or we'll go into a 10-minute recess and we'll keep doing that all right go ahead councilman breus so um we're in year eight and um we have 17 requests for protests uh no we only had three written complaints three complaints hardship requests there is an ordinance uh within the city for assessments that there is a hardship request process and that goes under the hardship uh the general assessment okay yeah okay have we um how does that how do these trend from prior years don't have that information in front of me um they haven't looked back in your records there are previous hardship requests that are that will be that information has been given to the assessor and so they get that ass for the next years well just as an example of the 5year review that you know positioned me to be able to continue to support this which I'm I'm really sad I can't because I feel that I was the biggest champion of this you know as the previous Lea on to the other bids but um if the hardships are in for five years how many do we have hanging out what is the signal of what is going on with these folks who are being assessed who are also in a very high tax um part of downtown because they also were paying off railroad trxs um so I uh you know I wish the council had followed through on what you know I was here in 16 and 17 when we set this up of doing a five-year review it was going to be done with um the first bi uh DRP leader uh we always agreed we do a five-year retroactive and we're just continuing I guess to cruise it until the 10 year and I think dissension will build Within These within this or um geography if um if it's not done in a transparent way and people aren't feeling heard from and I hear they don't feel heard from and that their issues are being addressed the constituents who reach out to me who pay this and are residential don't feel they're being addressed and their needs are being addressed thank you okay thank you so much um I'm hearing from a lot of constituents that they are and I'm really appreciative that this is in place I think we have to be careful about saying okay this isn't the way that we love to have it sometimes it's not perfect and sometimes I think as a whole you guys bring stuff forward and you have a reason for why you do what you do or the way you processed it or and then you know if you just don't agree with that then the rest of us look like you know we're just uh you know go along to get along all those things that you hear about about politicians out there you know it's just funny how that kind of put you in the box and then everyone's pointing the finger going back to that we're not doing that up here we're not so I just want to point out as much as people might be hearing on the other side there is sort of the other side to that coin as well so um I appreciate it any other questions from Council Members okay that being said I'd like to make the motion to approve okay so on C1 yeah I'll second you to take them individually I'll second Charlie one okay thank you I have a motion I have a second all those in favor say I iOS motion carries item C2 I'll move to adopt the resolution I have a motion second I have a second all those in favor say I I I iOS motion carries on Charlie three after it's read I'll be prepared okay this is ordinance introduction bill number 7268 ordinance of the Reno city council providing for the levy yeah I waiting for it to come up and manner of collection of Assessments for the city of Reno Nevada neighborhood Improvement project otherwise known as the downtown Reno business improvement district ratifying approving and confirming all other actions previously taken by the city council the City of Reno and the officers of said City directed toward the acquisition and improvements of said project in the district together with other matters properly relating there too V to refer all right I have a motion to refer second I have a second all those in favor say I I all those posted post motion carries okay moving right along mam clerk I'm sending it right back to you thank you Carl thank you madam mayor we're moving on to item D1 all right uh this is development services do we have any public comment did I ask you we do have public comment on this item Madame mayor great our first public commenter is JD klippenstein followed by Sally Tate followed by Thomas nice to see you good afternoon Madam mayor council members many name is JD klippenstein I am the director of development for the Reno housing authority and uh I was uh pleased to come offer comments and support of these initiatives I think last month or so when I was last on the agenda and I'm happy to be back here again uh these are great Tools in a toolbox for affordable housing developers particularly folks building affordable multifamily for lowincome households and I'd encourage you to support them I know you've heard lots lots of feedback on this I also want to commend Reno City staff it's a incredible amount of Outreach they've done and opportunities to engage with stakeholders so I feel like what is being brought before you are kind of like the low hanging fruit these things could be implemented fairly quickly and they would help projects that we are currently working on to pencil out and increase affordable housing throughout the city uh they're not a silver bullet but they're a step in the right direction so thank you very much and JD thank you so much for what you do cuz people probably don't know like who who you are in the background and he was very very critical of the city do you remember I was super critical and then that's what I love about this is that we all pulled together and used your resources and your knowledge and brought you on to make better decisions and choices and so it's just kind of cool to see well I appreciate that it uh housing is an important issue it takes takes everyone doing something so yeah how are you liking it it's good I like it a lot it's a good challenge okay good thanks d Sally Tate followed by Thomas Tate well as she said my name is Sally Tate and I'm sure you've read some of my other stuff I've sent over the years um and I live in the old Southwest um and this is kind of a very critical moment I think for Reno regarding housing and uh so what is at stake here from my opinion um it seems to me that Reno has a i an identity crisis what happened to our vision um do we want to be our independent Reno or a California or a Seattle or a Portland or a Minneapolis and we already know what is happening to all of them we appreciated all the various venues to share all this overwhelming zoning cleanup um um very overwhelming um yet does our input really carry any clout we are the taxpayers of this wonderful City I worry that permitting various plexus and single family zoned areas will transform our city like nothing even expected where a neighborhoods become Megapolis with big box type living in a sterile cement jungle and we saw pictures this morning illustrating that ignoring what is so special about our region and with little to no impact on the housing dilemma and in spite of what input we make will you listen and vote out the by right concept in single family neighborhoods as well as not allow setback changes these are huge huge issues for such neighborhoods think about a 50 by 100 lot of which there are many and what damage these changes will do to such an established Treeline neighborhood it will be stripped of its own dignity and Identity or will you side on the development side with no respect to these quaint neighborhoods my gosh even the historic districts aren't even respected by the city planners I guess their new design is out with the old and in with the bad we all know that this type of development with the various plexes will not provide any significant impact on easing the housing issues it will destroy these long established neighborhoods of our city and we know that this is the agenda of the Biden administ ation and they want to impose even a more rigid plan instead we need to have infel on all those open Lots downtown and now not 10 years from now and revive a safe downtown living environment how can we make that happen thank you belly Thomas Tate followed by Al evok Kimo followed by Don Donna keits good afternoon Madame mayor and Council people uh my name is Tom Tate and I live in Ward one in an area that's going to change to ward two I oppose upzoning of single family areas a fourplex is not a single family house and calling it one doesn't make it one sf8 shouldn't mean the same as mf32 this seems to be an assault on single family zoning I know that some people are trying to destroy single family zoning because they believe it is racist it is not I used to live in a neighborhood where people like me were a minority and a a very small minority my neighbors wanted the same things that I did neatly kept houses that showed pride of ownership and a clean and safe area the only only one house in the neighborhood was a rental was the drug house wanting comfortable and safe environment for your family is a very basic human desire that transcends ethnicity and owner occupied single family housing is the best way to get that there's a place for fourplexes and denser housing in multif family and mixed Ed areas isn't that what our master plan says successful cities have a fairly dense core that's needed to get the critical mass needed for Transit and the foot traffic that stores need for Reno that should be downtown but it's been hollowed out so that most locals only go there for festivals and perhaps crawls the situation is similar west of downtown where one Corporation controls everything this is not healthy for a thriving City I'd like to see some real diversity in housing such as building very small and inexpensive Studios and one-bedroom Park uh Apartments put this in medium and high density buildings with commercial on the first floor and put it along Transit lines so people can get places I also like very narrow row houses not condominium tow houses but a place where the homeowner owns the land with zero clearance between houses and no common walls living space built upwards not towards the back when a small open space behind the house and a onecar garage I've seen this type of new construction in the Netherlands and it makes extremely good use of a very very tiny lot because they own it there's no HOA so paint the front door whatever color you like let's have some real diversity no more cookie cutter condos and tacky Apartments the most important issue is to maintain and improve the quality of life and we want W get that with the current plan that just seems like recycled uh Sean Phillips plan Reno deserves better Al EVD doimo followed by Donna Keats followed by Tony harsh good afternoon everybody Madam mayor and counsil I want to say first off before I start this I want to say thank you guys this was a first I've been here since 1972 this is the first uh city council meeting I ever went to and I thank you for the way you yeah I'm old I'm old so uh but well I've been dead three years so and I don't age um but I thank you for the way you're running it so I look at that because I used to run briefings all the time in the military and I and I like staying on track um for the record my name is oh it's already started Al evok Kimo retired Airline Captain retired military pilot emphasizing retired emphasizing retired so as an airline p so I like to do is start out at 35,000 foot viiew and the 35,000 foot view of this is um we're all talking about this only because of ab 213 it was stated in the staff reports which were excellent by the way really was very very Illuminating and lightening and kind of brought right down to me the focus of what we need to look at so I thank them for that but ab2 a213 talked about hey we need to do this it's coded in law 12 we at the city Arenal have to do six of the 12 items that are Illustrated in that law and I see eight of them as as being something that is has a cost associated with it four of them are permitting issues generally so I was looking at my wonder myself and going why because in 2022 the which one is it 2022 affordable housing uh folks got a $300 million uh Bond issued so they could put affordable housing together and then of the $2.7 billion we got from the American rescue plan 500 million from governor nysac was was brought into the state for affordable housing only so I'm wondering myself why we have to look at this type of Permitting stuff down low when we had all this type of money available to perhaps do something different for instance in inclusionary zoning Nevada uh revised Statute was 278.15 um vice mayor dur talked about I guess this was the first one that was just done it hasn't here to for been done and it's a 1999 law so I'm like why didn't we get any that that law with that money getting to a point where we could put um affordable housing combined with market value housing both in the residential areas or primarily in apartments right so I was always wondering about that so that's why I ask you guys it's a rhetorical question you don't need to answer it now it is homework though um incentives for avoidable um affordable housing there's now I'm talking precisely about the changes in the code that is being presented today really all right so let's I'll go quicker um I have a real issue with exemptions from everything I have a real issue of not having permits even remotely looked at I have a real issue with not having any real public discussion about anything and this all stems from a couple things first and foremost was um commissioner velto talking about pushing the needle as far as possible because we're going to have this public uh discussion anyway so the city Council will probably reel things back well that smells an awful lot like Rah Emanuel back in the day talking about never let a crisis go to waste I don't like that can I uh one thing I'll just end end with this I got 20 seconds can I do that yeah all right so we're talking about the apartments and how we have a low amount of Apartments coming and this goes back to the affordable uh act in 1999 and this is from Brian bonan who just April 27 of this year talked about the pipeline that they have for uh housing in Reena we're all talking about it being in crisis right now but this is what he said our area has just been going Bang Gang Busters there are currently a number of new projects that are taking a prolonged amount of time to reach stabilization at 90% occupy Johnson Perkins Griffin stated in its report in another sign of slowing apartment absorption more apartments are offering rent concessions by the end of the year 37.276990 according to Johnson Perkins Griffin the last time more than 37% of Apartments offered concessions was a be beginning of 2014 when the percentage of housing units come on board is equal to 3% of the existing housing stock the pace of development is considered to be aggressive wrestler said and the pace of next this year for renal Sparks is 3.5% next year is even higher at 4.8% of inventory so there's a tsunami of new housing units for Reno the pipeline is pretty full so all I'm asking is let's take a look at that because this uh as proposed by the um commission isn't going to cut it okay thank you thank you so much all right next Madam Madam Donna Keats followed by Tony harsh Donna Keats come on up good afternoon come on up no telling what's going to spew forth right now I'll try again I think uh this yeah this off the cuff cuz I had a computer failure okay I guess my number there's a couple things I want to say um I'm absolutely against everything Donna can you pull the M again okay um I'm absolutely against all the proposals that are by right approvals because that cuts out what Reno is so special for is that they engage their public and they want to be transparent want to know that makes Reno special the fact that other jurisdictions are not as special as Reno doesn't mean we should try to be like them secondly there's some things that you don't know about these um proposals that I think should come forward staff will probably talk about them but there are things in the code text amendments that are not part of the housing initiatives so I've talked to some of you about it already some of you already know maybe some of you don't somehow the um definition of multif family got magically changed in March of this year when the code text amendments went to PC you don't know that but multif family is now five units and more instead of more than one on a lot that's a great concern to these people who are talking about what's going on in the single family neighborhoods because then how are you going to regulate them they've also cut back the side setbacks cut outside setbacks assuming that multif family setbacks next to single family uses will take care of the problem except if fourplex isn't multif family anymore then you don't have increased setback so that doesn't do the job so there's this big massive trickle through in the code that this change in definition is a problem you got landscape requir that are required for multif family over two or over I forget the number anyway you can look in the code I've got some references but I don't have time all that stuff you also have a mandate from the legislature I don't know if it applies to Reno but it's about the tiny homes and you have pardon my French but a buttload of vacant Lots hanging around why don't we go back to that idea to make accessible housing someplace to incentify people there's a lot of permits out there that got permitted two years ago that haven't been built can we take a look at why haven't they been built they're in the areas that you want mixed use they're in the areas that you want close to transit for J Street Corridor downtown along Midtown the properties are there where you want this development so can we take a look at those and find out why those permits are hanging there everybody's going to tell you interest rates one up building cost one up all true what can we do to help that because that's not going to change land values are going to keep going up we're just going to keep having dead properties in the areas you want to Revitalize so can we target our approach that way maybe instead of thinking about what we're going to have a fight with single family neighborhoods about which is we did it with adus we did it before that and nobody's actually being honest about densification I'd like to bring that up because you're going to get a lot of push back on that one densification is up zoning even if you're not changing the zoning District so let's just be a little more transparent about that issue you'll get a lot less push back when you want to go build adus and you want to go do duplexes in certain areas plan it talk about it be transparent about it but go back to all these dead properties you know the the the master plan says you should be negotiating with P puds to try to mix up the styles of housing why are we doing that there's a lot of new puds that have been coming through that don't have that all right Donna thank you so much and one thing I know you know a lot about this topic and um I share your frustration why are some of those vacant Parcels because they have have um they have permits that have come in so I did exactly that reached out to them because just like you what are we doing let's do a much smaller footprint let's do a tiny home model whatever what does that look like to your point that's exactly what they said they said the high interest rates are just impossible um they said Labor's been really tough the cost of material and then you said well let's help them get there right do you have any good Solutions because when we do that then everyone says oh my gosh that city council gave them incentives and I mean even when we put them on the back and not that we gave them something but when we did 1 th000 homes in 120 days and and we put there the on the very back end right uh so then it was like oh my goodness so it's so hard to please everyone but I think you make really great points well maybe we can chat sometime okay cuz love to think about that I think about it I think that's a great way to go to get rid of our dead spots okay so think about what we do okay okay thanks Tony harsh followed by Heidi red Reedman I do get I get scared up here no you're fine what do you mean you've been over here before it's 100% easier where did you set where were you down here down here um right here right here where um Kathleen is Kathleen it's easier you get to sit down and we have to stand like in a witness stand I'm I would rather have it like the legislature where you sit I know we should change that I like your idea let's do it I I said that to Donna when during lunch I said hey when I went to County you got to sit Schoolboard you get to sit legislature you get to sit anyway sit here go ahead Tony harsh uh City resident um thank you so much I really enjoyed the public comment today felt like we were doing a workshop and that that always feels good you know I I liked that um the culture changes a little bit and it's always fun to get used to um I'm here talking about this combination and that's what I'm concerned about is it feels that you're lumping this Zone cleanup as well as the affordable housing are getting lumped together and it's a little confu it's confusing it's hard to deal with so um I'd like to focus on ab23 which is this wonderful thing that you are pushing against um with the time constraint and um I am concerned that it's the effect on the local government this is from the legislature may have a fiscal impact effect on the state no impact contains unfunded mandates and it's not required it was not requested by the affected local government so you have to do six of these 12 things by July 1st that's my understanding you have been looking at affordable housing for a long time as we should be I'm just wondering like in any action plan um we kind of start with the things we've already done and we get to get credit for them so how many of these 12 have we already done maybe we've already there and we don't have to push against this July 1 you know and take credit for it say hey we did it um so included in that the Thousand homes in 120 days where are we with that they're still there the interest rates the cost of building is going to be the same now you know we just can't get stuck on that so um also I was here for a presentation uh with housing and the thing that I heard was that we already have almost 90% of the affordable housing and I'm going they're doing a great job um so enough of that um also included in this uh from the legislature is how are we working in of Time how are we working with all of your governing boards and where is the school board on this have they been brought in where are we in governing board has this come to to their attention because we should be working with Washo School Indian colonies everybody so let's move along because I am concerned about your Outreach um I'll move past alred I'm concerned about the map here's the map you've carved out the puds which is great but I don't know where the HOAs are and how you're going to deal with CCN RS and your neighborhood plants just don't know how you're going to do it and um you might be have that all figured out how are you going to notice it we have a few of those and so how can we help you yeah so that's all I have to do thank you do you have and I don't know do you have do you have ccnr in Newlands no I don't you don't I have a group home I have homeless I I think they moved that one out we have everything we have everything in Newland which is great yeah we even have people that live that have houses in the alleys okay so I think we're pretty dence that was the big issue um when we looked at that from the Fire Marshall as if we had a fire in newand you know how would we even I I couldn't I couldn't remember so but yeah um is there like a newand what do we call it we we're a historic district new the new but and I don't think there're are guarantees there um but we do have neighborhood plans throughout the city that um I don't know how this is being addressed and they were so precious so thank you so much you Hillary all right good job thank you appreciate it okay Madam CL Heidi Reedman okay um so with ma with that Madame mayor it looks like we're gonna oh I'm sorry we do have members in Zoom we have Bill shrimp which we'll move over now hey Bill that's where you say hey Hillary no I'm just kidding hello good afternoon everyone can you guys hear me yes okay wonderful so uh Bill Shri um first thing I want to say is just a big job well done and keep doing a good job to miss fuss and her team um the engagement that they've done with the community uh at least I think has been quite good I know other people probably disagree with me but uh they've done a great job in my opinion so far and putting all this together it's a lot of very complicated overlapping topics um another gentleman brought up uh a report that I was going to talk to you guys about as well and is a report by Johnson Perkins Griffin um something that I and if you don't know who they are they've been surveying Apartments which are usually larger developments and they've been doing it every quarter for years and years they have just tremendous data um but I want to read you one line from their report their latest quarterly report it's on page five and it says just over 4,100 plus or minus apartment units are currently under construction in the Reno Sparks market and just under 4,400 apartment units are currently in the planning stages so that's a lot of housing units for apartments um it seems that we're doing pretty good there so as you guys have your discussion and comments later um I really hope that we can focus on the small multif family like the four unit or less type of stuff uh I think those give an opportunity to preserve neighborhood character and charm and feel like a house instead of a big block building and that kind of thing which I think is the thing A lot of people are concerned about um another topic that I hope you keep in mind is the public process um I hope that you keep the conditional use permits going for a lot of these so that it hits the nabs um because again that's where we keep small problems small and get to better developments that are more congruous with the neighborhood um and also uh the planning the planning Commissioners obviously they're very smart and trained in what they do and have a lot of experience but some of their comments were kind of distressing and I everybody has an an option to put in their two cents but I hope that you take the planning commissioner's comments uh with no more weight than all of the comments that have been gathered from the community uh particularly concerned that basically they said hey put the pedal with the metal and let the city pump the brakes so let the city council pump the braks um so in a nutshell that's a lot of what their commentary was uh I hope you have more Nuance discussion today so anyway thank you everybody for being here and uh hope you have a enjoy rest of your day thank you thank you so much hey Bill quick question yeah um you read that report can you remind me how many units did they say that we needed the Johnson Perkins yeah what was that it is like a 40 page report Madame mayor with lots of data in it I don't remember how many they said that we need but they have 4,400 4,000 00 currently under construction and 4,400 in the planning stages and what that means is they've started uh permitting and looking at permitting okay I if you'd like I can email you the uh or the body the the link for the report if that's help I have it I just couldn't remember but I want to say that they I want to say and maybe I'm off but I thought it was about 45 55,000 do you remember that I think that's over a longer time frame I remember seeing a number like that but I think it was over a longer time frame okay I just thought it was astronomical okay yeah it's I remember seeing that was like a crazy number but I think that was like a 20 or 30 year number if I remember correctly okay thanks so much Bill as always all right ma Madam clerk thanks Madame mayor with that we have no additional public comment at this time for the record I would like to state that we received 46 comments which were directly associated with this item prior to 4 p.m. yesterday May 7th 10 letters in favor 21 letters in opposition and 15 letters of concern those have been distributed to the Reno city council and are on reno.gov meetings okay thank you so much at this time Angela the floor is yours and you got the memo on the Western Wear clearly I did how yall doing all right as we get set up for the record all right Angela F assistant director today you can call me Becky um today's discussion is really just to go over where we've been in the last eight months or so give you guys an update of the feedback we've heard both from Planning Commission and from the public and then seek your input on where you want to go next so today is not a first reading this is truly just to get your input and then we'll take it to a Next Step so let's start with what what is this and what isn't this so this is specifically rated to related to Title 18 that's our zoning code we've had a lot of feedback about why aren't we doing more with rent control and why isn't the do City doing more on this this and this and we said this topic is specific to our zoning code so just everyone needs to understand there's only so many things the zoning administrator has control over and that's what we're going over today so there's there's a couple things that we've talked about over the last couple years you know this housing crisis is not new it's something we've been dealing with for a couple years this Council has had two housing workshops where we' talked about the the idea of you know what is affordability and it's everything from truly subsidized affordable housing all the way up to where the teachers living and where are the people you know fresh out of college living that that truly is an affordability issue it has to do with Supply and housing so as we looked at all those topics we put it together in what we're calling just this housing and affordability initiative the other big impetus for this is assembly Bill 213 so just so everyone understands the the there 's been discussion of oh this this new uh law has 12 things that the city is supposed to do and they have to pick at least six of those no no no no that has been in NRS for a number of years that's verbatim in our master plan which has been adopted since 2017 so none of that is new those 12 things are not new we already have them in our master plan what we do every year is reporting we have to say what we've done to address each of those 12 things we report that to the state that is not what AB 213 did that's already in state law what AB 213 did is said local jurisdictions must do two things the word shall is specifically in NRS it says local jurisdiction shall enact an ordinance and you have to address two things you have to come up with an expedited process specific to affordable housing and you have to provide incentives for affordable housing so those are the two things if you do nothing between now and the next couple months please let's do those all right so let's let's talk about you know why where did staff come up with these crazy ideas whether they're good they're bad they're just where did they come up with them um we did have Shane Phillips you know kind of a a housing and affordability expert come and talk to us about things that the City of Reno could do he looked at all of our policies he looked at the regional plan he looked at all these other studies that have been done and he said if you really want to make a difference here's some big things you can do we talked about those now they were big and and we as said well that's great I I don't think that that's what this community is willing to do today right it was like double your density in terms of increase the zoning um you know allow by rights of all apartments everywhere in the city so we said whoa whoa whoa whoa you know those those are good ideas those were Big Ideas let's scale that back and so we specifically looked at what other jurisdictions across the nation are doing and we said what would be an appropriate fit for Reno again understanding Reno is special you know you know we we are unique and there's there's a reason so many people want to live here we want to maintain that character so what we tried to propose is very small incremental changes again trying to keep up with the demand of Housing and the issue of how do we increase Supply if we go back to the regional plan you know the regional plan says density stop sprawling density and so we said okay well what can we do to increase density and what we heard from the community is stop at the apartments so we said okay how do we increase density and encourage but but not apartments and so we we again we tried to come up with what we thought were some creative ideas that the community could get on board with so we're going to break this up into two different phases the first phase is specific to affordable housing right this is not anything else just the topic of affordable housing and I'm going to stop um after a couple slides and we'll have some discussions just so we can keep it talking where you can talk while it's fresh in your mind all right so the first item that we're proposing again we have to provide incentives for affordable hous projects so in um our zoning code right now we allow different kind of um incentives for affordable housing so you can get density bonuses today you can get reduced parking today those things are already in our code what we're finding is that um the the people that do affordable housing have said time is a big issue and uncertainty is a big issue so if we have to go through a four-month public review process that takes a lot longer costs a lot more money and there's a lot of uncertainty so we said said okay those projects that are meeting that 0 to 60% affordability so again um this isn't Workforce housing this is less than Workforce housing 60% Ami we said those projects would be able to go straight to a building permit now the other thing I want to let that the world know is that that there's been this misconception staff's recommendation was that while you can go straight to a building permit you still have to meet all of our zoning regulations so if if there's a requirement that you can only go three stories you can't go taller than that there's a requirement that you have to meet a 10-ft side setback you have to meet that if you want to deviate from that then you would go through a public review process but as long as you meet all of our zoning code requirements you could go straight to a building permit so let's talk about some of the concerns we heard from the public specific to this issue I think by and far you know the the public would like to see more projects come through a public review process um so that they can weigh in and have input again if if we're trying to get these projects to Market faster this is one way to do that now when we went to Planning Commission they had some recommendations specific to this topic and they said I think we could do better um on those affordable housing projects let's also give them the incentive to be able to go two stories taller so we put a just a photo here here's a an existing uh multif family project that's affordable it's three stories that met the code um if if they were able to go two stories taller that's what it would look like it' be a fivestory building Planning Commission also recommended that we allow them to deviate from their setbacks and that would be by right they wouldn't have to go through any kind of public review process the final one was that there would be no parking requirements for affordable housing projects they felt that if um the affordable housing developer wanted parking and needed parking they would put it in but we shouldn't require them to have to put it in parking's expensive uses that more of the land so that was the thought process um I also just want to share that you know the Planning Commission their job was to take this topic and make a recommendation I think there there's been a lot of negative press that they went too far they did something understand you know they they have heard from Council and from the community that we have a housing problem that we have an affordability problem so they said we think what staff's recommending is great and we generally support it we also think we could take it a little bit further and help these affordable housing development developments do even more so again I think their interest was looking out for the the community members that that need the affordable housing and those developers that have said here's the challenge we have so just want to throw that out there that um no no they are by no means doing anything bad um what they did was very much in support of the initiatives that I think the city council is trying to move forward and they just come came up with some creative ways to do that so let's go back to this topic and just get your feedback do you like this concept or not again that's starting with um should projects that again meet that 60% area meeting income be able to go straight to a building permit or if they trigger a public review process should we continue to have them go through that process all right thank you so much Angela the first thing that comes out of my mouth because you know me and I'll say it in my out loud voice oh hell no it's got to go it's not going to just go you know without any review I'm sorry like I can't even imagine um anyway and I know that's not you we're like here because of the whole other reason but uh when I hear that just like want to cringe and I should add too there there are a lot of zoning districts in the city that allow apartments by right yeah and that allow un they pop up and I'm like how did that happen you know and I I don't think a lot of people really understand how challenging it can be on this side and you know there are a lot of people out there struggling really needing affordability and there are a lot of other people out there saying you know how dare you how dare you it's unbelievable to actually see the Divide on both sides um unless you really really feel it unless you're one of those that um can't afford it versus can afford it and it's really it's really hard to watch and it's not easy to be in this place because it's so easy for everyone to say oh see those politicians are in the pockets of the developers how dare them you see hear that all the time um and it's very very frustrating then the media on the other hand loves to use that piece of it and say yep see see here's here's the support and meanwhile you really need the housing for a lot of people that that need it but I also think it should have extensive regulation for sure just because you can doesn't mean you should but anyway but that's where when I see it I'm like what is that how how does that happen then I come back here and I'm like can you look up this address and how did that happen did they have did they have the right to do that and they're like yes and so and then on the other flip side you guys will understand this especially some of you that might um lean a little more to the right that you know people always say hey we want government to get out of the way we want less red red tape and then when you propose it whoa right so you got again whenever I say we finger point and do this thing you can't have it both ways and it makes our job super super tough right anyway so um I just I don't think it just it's interesting how people make it want to work for them when it works for them but we have to make decisions up here that um make people's lives better and it's really challenging and sometimes it and I think Tony probably remembers back in the day every other Wednesday you probably lost half your friends we did it every Tuesday every Tuesday you probably lost half your friends but then they come back next Tuesday right anyway okay I'm gonna send it to councilman Reese all right or me okay um I um go ahead I do not I've already expressed so all say in my out loud voice I don't agree with this concept of going straight to building permit and that is be for a variety of reasons um I really I think Tony put her finger on the pulse which is that we are special and the public does want to participate in the process and mostly what I've heard from the public is not an objection to affordable housing on its own because it's affordable versus some other kind of housing what I've heard is concerns about Heights setbacks density parking uh ability to park in a particular area so the things that you've listed out here are not things that I support and I've also read every comment and watched your online and I didn't see a lot of support for it from the public either I think there are other things we can do that you have in your proposal to provide incentives so it was interesting how you structured the conversation you said we are already doing six of the 12 or we have uh maybe we're doing eight of the 12 that were already in law right th those 12 items that are already in state law are verbatim in our master plan we have to report how much of those items we do on a yearly basis right so we've established a trust fund we have um provided money we've provided support we've provided density bonuses for affordable we've already done these things uh We've financed um on on multi-story housing we've provided density bonus we've again I've read to each one of these directed financial assistance we have um reduced impact fees we've reduced permitting fees we've reduced sewer fees we met that one um we have offered land at very low cost not always but we have done it um we've donated land Allah Sage Street we donated $3 million uh to affordable housing you know very very affordable housing like down at 20% at Ami or 10% I don't know if we've leased land uh we are not part of snipa but anyway we've done almost everything on the list in very every year and I think maybe just so you guys understand the history of what the state legislature discussion was so they started out by putting in some very specific requirements that all the local jurisdictions would have to meet and we don't want those I will say they they were not something that this Council would probably want to have to do um so through your lobbying team the rest of the states lobbying team we went back and we said this is this is kind of over the-top crazy be careful what you say you know like we have to implement this this is not going to go well can you give us some flexibility so each local jurisdiction can come up with their own set of ideas um now what they did not say is Reno you guys are awesome you don't have to do anything right they said Reno go do more right so on the do more um some of the things that you have later I do agree with assigning a staff liaison to all affordable housing projects to help the development process in a more timely manner that's a very good incentive I support it onor present um I would support the building review instead of the permitting review side going faster with no public input once it's reached its public input and they're on the building side why can't we speed that up sure and let's get to that when we get to that slide but what I'm trying to say is I'm not a no on these incentives uhhuh just this particular basket of incentives yep so just the only thing we're talking about right now do you like the idea of projects that are affordable going straight to a building permit what I'm hearing so far is probably not does anyone else have any insight that you wanted to provide again we're getting staff feedback you like this idea you don't you want to do it maybe it's 30% Ami thank you so much I apologize um we didn't have our timer so I wasn't cutting anyone off so I apologize um on yeah I just I I agree that I have concerns about going straight to to planning so straight to building per yeah that's right yeah building permit so okay that's just my feedback okay uh councilwoman breus anything yeah um just you know to start with is um what I was at a last at with your staff report was you know a copy of ab 213 and more or less the checklist of which of the cuz we we're speaking from a draft and when you have a draft you're very specific which of those apply do each of the things in the outline that would have been my guidance to you all in preparing this item for our consideration and at a prior um you know reiteration of this I thought staff was going to sit and meet with us all that's why I got a printed out copy of all the red lines and staff never met with me um that may be because our our city manager who's he's not here but I think he's still on the payroll you know put an embargo on me meeting with staff so I'm not going to lay it on staff but I think that it would have been helpful for me to see the ab2 and3 language of what gets us where on that sure and here's specifically the ab3 language that we are addressing today but because my time is is quick is I would have wanted those highlighted on the red line for me to see cuz some are procedures obviously yeah and incentives may not live live in Title 18 and just to disclosure to everyone I've worked with this zoning code from 1998 and during the years of 20 10 in 2011 I wrote the report compiled the report from all the jurisdictions that had to report I'd call up Boulder City I call up Clark County tell me what you've done for the report I identified to Reno staff that your sewer uh rebate program to people of um lower economic means should be in their the City of Reno report so I'm pretty familiar with that I've just say that as preference to um understanding where the legislature is coming from and how it's how it's gone forward and I do not want to be in a time crunch at this point um so that's why that first understanding was important for me secondly when you pose the question you know on the slide of tell us where we uh want expedited um uh processing of multif family or not I would like to know what code sections those are cuz I'm dealing from the draft language right now so I would really like to understand what code sections you're ref referring rather because when you have a draft you don't talk at conceptual level so that would be helpful for me I'm not entirely opposed to um a multifamily going uh right to permit because I think most of it does anyway there may be a situation where it's on Hillside terrain that I absolutely do want a public process there may be a situation where there's um adjacent to Industrial this council's been putting a lot of industrial and residential maybe I want consideration there maybe so I really I really um would like to see this section because I think a lot of that happens already now is the threshold say 20 or so and you want to move it up to 120 is that so just the item we're talking about today is not not that what we're talking about today is any project that's affordable when you say okay when % Ami so they have to show us that they are meeting that 60% average Medi area median income okay they are deed restricted this is in section 18.04 153 that is on page 34 of the redline document that was in your staff report okay so let me ask you this if I could um I'm going to cut you off I'm well I think I have 30 seconds left actually or am I over over 40 yeah we may not be able to get through this today I'm going to we can come back I'll come back to you I am happy to come back every meeting till we're done thank you uh counc woman Ebert I don't have anything right okay thank you councilwoman Taylor mad thank you Angela so sorry to skip over you just no you're fine okay um I will again probably be the lone voice um with this opinion but I am supportive of this and this is the reason why um maybe it's as a Reno Housing Authority commissioner knowing that we have at least 4,000 people on a waiting list right now um for affordable housing also it is extremely hard to pencil affordable housing projects um so Angela I guess I'm going to ask you and you've repeated this before this isn't G to I I think it need I think you need to repeat for me again this it doesn't mean that you get to not follow our building code this doesn't mean that you don't follow setbacks you still have a review process you still have to meet all of that criteria within our Design Within our building codes within the zoning um and and how many projects in the last you know three years has has have we gotten with so for affordable housing projects I think we've had about five different projects that had to go through an entitlement and they were all for different reasons some were you know deviation some were zone changes somewhere spds um so what we're talking about is again there's different triggers for what requires a public hearing the only thing we're saying is as long as you meet all of your zoning requirements you meet all your building requirements as long as you provide that affordability you can go straight to a building permit we still review it if we find anything that doesn't meet code we kick you out and make you go through the process so again are you going to see in your mind a affordable housing or a multi family going up in the Newlands or going up in in neighborhoods or on Hillside developments without your review I just think that the fear of um the unknown is sort of getting we're getting caught up in that conversation when when these developments aren't happening left and right and that's why we're here that's true and for the for the most part these affordable housing housing projects even these smaller ones they need acreage they could never do this in you know in these infill areas such as the Newlands there's those Parcels aren't big enough for something even the the project that you're looking at that's in downtown Reno that was probably on one to two acres of land so you actually need a bit of acreage to make any of these projects happen which is why you you would never see a project like this um in in any of our truly infill areas okay I think I got enough feedback on that Mr Martinez did you have any comments on this slide go right ahead Sor council member Ree has spoken during this portion either but I just wanted to say that uh just based on the area of town that I represent in most of these uh affordable housing units would already be approved by W and that is why I want to say that I to tell council member Taylor that she's not a lone wolf and I'm right there with her um and I do support the by right approval of these affordable housing units because I hear from a lot of the constituents in my area that they want to see more housing especially attainable affordable housing that we're planning to go for and so the as I said the areas that I represent will already be allowed by right and therefore I am in support of this happening all right Madam mayor yeah I I want to a couple things is first of all I see 1804 1503 and obviously you're going to run it if this gets adopted there's amendments in the tables right you know to put right correct okay so number one um I'm kind of in the middle I I don't think the the bulk and density and certainly the setbacks should be waved or the height I think those are standard um the more you add density bonuses we already have density bonuses I think for affordable housing we do yeah so this is upping it I I think the ones we have are good I'm I'm perfectly fine with getting rid of the parking um for these units but I think one thing that really needs to be understood and it's going to come up and the second one is you keep talking about Ami and this and that and those of us who have worked in affordable housing subsidized housing use that terminology around projects that are getting public money in and your your initial slides at affordable didn't say subsidize okay so my question is is can market rate developer come in and show a 60 Ami without any federal dollars in this project they can they are required to deed restrict it to that 60% affordability for 20 years for 20 years and let me ask you this because it we get into your more infill scenarios who is going to be able to reinforce that deed and who will be doing the monitoring that is a critical fundamental in the subsidized housing world it's um already part of our housing program so we have a whole department that deals just with housing and this is something they already do no well they do it under the federal guidelines they don't do it absent of federal guidelines and that is my question and can neighbor Joe say hey you've got 50 people in there you're renting it out Airbnb or you know I'm seeing that they're not subsidized housing can neighbor Joe come in and enforce the deed that is something that I think really needs to be understood because it's because you know you said you searched all over the country for models you know and examples and I'm pretty up on a lot of this stuff from a national level and I don't know of anyone who's using a an approach like that and I did ask ask if you had any other you know models before on on this and maybe someone from the hand can mention but how are you going to go in and monitoring a market rate project that could sell to one re to another over a 20-year period and who can enforce those deeds Monica Kirch for the record uh we currently excuse me in the past our monitoring was all done through the state we took that inhouse this last year and stood up a program of our own and in addition to all of our our agreements that we have through say home lending any other agreement that has is deed restricted is on our list of monitoring and we will be the ones that will be monitoring each year and enforcing it if need be how many Deeds how much how many units are you monitoring that don't have federal funds in them um at this point I don't know that I don't have a number for you but there's not very many but regardless of that it's going to be deed restricted and on our on our watch list we've got Deeds all over these are you know this is a real this is this is UN I'd love a model I'd love a model okay thank you Council breus um okay here's what we're going to do because Angela I am so sorry I did not realize you have like this massive presentation we just sort of bombarded you with questions and jumped in this is the very reason that when we have these bigger presentations that I always say gosh let's wait until the very end um but I do want to say one thing just for everyone up here the discussion I have sat here you know a little while along with Council one breus I don't think that I can think of that we have ever denied an affordable project can you think of one I can't well you know Madame may we all need to know Federal money in usual years only produce 60 units a year I'm just saying I when I don't want the narrative to be we're not supportive of affordable housing I I don't remember anything that we have ever turned down yeah the great challenge is to get ones that don't need Federal money because Federal money is limited but you have to do it through very fine grain approaches if you're using the land use and that's what we're trying to do and you know but when we mix terminology I think it causes a little bit of confusion okay thanks so much okay Angela I'm going to let you go Madam mayor um council member Reese sorry I got up like at 4:30 to make it to the prayer breakfast this I I know anyway okay go ahead Council mon re take it away and then Angela you got to go through the whole presentation and then we'll bring it back to the Bobby I think what happened Madame mayor is I deferred first to miss doer and that left us off you did offer me but then I I uh demur what happened that's right correct I demed um Miss Foose first of all um we're all very excited about the presentation so some of us are jumping ahead because we've been jumping ahead on the screens and we know what's coming so let us focus on what you've asked here and to be clear and so um folks know where I'm coming from I am uh sort of like Miss breus I'm in the middle on this question and where I end up resolving it on my own is to say that I don't want to reduce the ability of people to weigh in on projects it is true that that process of review sometimes gets mired in the uh very unnuanced debate of nimbyism versus yism but I will say that our affordable housing project developers in this city tell me that that's not the pinch point for them that they're not being squeezed down by that so my point to you is I don't want to um anger people who would otherwise be fans of and supporters of a project because they didn't get the ability to weigh in on it and so I am not in favor of the very specific question that youve put on the board about whether or not 60% Ami project go straight to building permit because I don't think it moves the needle are affordable housing projects will still be built they may take four months longer but assuming that people are of good nature and want to see these types of projects built as they have historically here this will not move the needle and therefore I don't want to lose part of our community support for these projects um so that answers the first Slide the second slide that you have were some Planning Commission recommendations on affordability and here again you've already given some cover to the Planning Commission I want to thank them for their excellent work we did task them with a very enormous job which is to say here's a thousand things that we could throw at the wall like spaghetti which one will stick they said hey let's go a little further and then let you sort it out we're now doing that the unfortunate part has come in that um the public are not planning Commissioners they don't follow the minutia of our planning process they don't know the difference between a PUD and sf4 right and it's no fault of theirs I sometimes am confused by it too but the point is is that what happens is they then go on next door and they rile up all their neighbors because their neighbors are interested in the same topic and then we go off on rabbit holes that we don't need to go on to this slide in particular posits things which I don't think are necessarily an issue for us either I don't think we aside from density bonuses which we're going to talk about in another slide and we'll have a conversation then I don't think that you should do these things um if if they can be built five stories that'll happen in the public process that I say we shouldn't eliminate if we want to uh vary major and minor setbacks we can do that in the public process right removing parking requirements I think is a double-edged sword I have said in the past that I think some parking requirements are more Antiquated and resolved themselves based on a time when we had more parking requirements or needs but I'm also a person who believes that that can be resolved through the public hearing process so I don't want to change them and that is my own particular instruction to you on these two slides only okay and and now I think Miss Madame mayor also gave you some cover to sort of try to jump into some of those slides get us through as many as we can and then maybe we'll take them up because if we just start going all over the place we might be here till tonight okay we ready yes okay so the next incentive again specific to AB 213 this is an incentive um for affordable housing is that we would assign a staff this is somebody that already would be working at the city not a new person and they would basically be a liaison during the building permit review process our current review process when you first submit your permit is is 10 days that is probably the fastest in the entire state of Nevada so we we probably can't go any faster um but with that liaison when they come back in they submit their comments we give them a list of 50 things that they have done that need to be changed we would then call them set up a meeting with their engineers and their Architects and say let's go through all 50 of our staff's comments so that you understand specifically what you need to do that's the role of this staff leaon again it has zero impact on budget zero impact on really anything so this is the one thing that is the easiest thing for you to approve and again it will check the box that we've provided a way to expedite affordable housing okay we're going to move on okay next item is density bonus so we currently allow density bonus for affordable housing and we have for years um let me ask you something yeah I I want to get through these but I also want you to get the feedback and I wanted to propose a novel approach and that is is there would it be okay if uh if we like your idea if we raise our hand perfect and then without comment and if we if we're not liking it or we have something we want to say we'll hold the saying but just so you could get sort of a sense of that would be great is that okay that would be great or is the council okay with this idea we could just TR you jump up just to like get some blood going that would be no we don't need to jump up but I guess what I'm ask asking is would everybody who thinks this is a good idea raise your hand was that okay council member dur just one thing to not is that council member Taylor is on Zoom so yeah well she can raise her hand on the on the zoom well mad Madam vice mayor the only other concern I have is that the public may not be uh so could we just say yes then could we verbalize it Madam vice mayor councilwoman Taylor is in favor of everything okay good there we go so she's in favor Mr Shipman are we needing to think about any of this as it relates just want to give them some indication of where we are to get through this is that okay yeah I mean however the body wants to decid well I'm I'm since council member Taylor's raised her hand on every item so far please raise your hand if you are good with this item and if you're not you can come back and speak about it later okay looks like most of us are in favor for the record it looks like everyone and we'll come back with the questions okay okay go ahead okay so the next item again specifically on affordable housing is the density bonus currently allow a density bonus this means you can add more units to your project if it's affordable um currently we say there's a cap you can't have more than 45% density bonus so if you're allowed to do 10 Apartments again they have to be affordable today they're capped out at a 45% density bonus so that would only get you four more units what we're proposing is to increase that if you're doing the the 0 to 60% Ami so really like the the most of the lower income up to a 60% area median income if you meet that requirement and you're locked in for 20 years then you can get unlimited density that doesn't mean you can go any taller that doesn't mean you can go any wider that means that the zoning District puts a cap on how many units you're allowed to do but with this you'd be allowed to squeeze in more units again you can't go taller you can't go wider you still have to provide parking you still have to provide all the zoning code requirements you could just squeeze more units in the other thing that we looked at is state law actually allows for um Workforce housing and that is kind of that 80% area median income all the way up to 120% we currently have zero incentives for those two brackets that Workforce housing bracket so we we've thrown in that we would also provide some density bonuses if you meet that 80% or 120% okay so um um bullet one 0 to 60% Ami Unlimited dny bonus could you please raise your hand if you're supporting that idea Madam vice mayor I have a comment yes well we're going to save comments or is this for the voting on this one okay on this item so I I want to understand why 60 um and my concern is about the ones that I think we're very much lacking here are more in that 30% Ami range right the very farthest end of the spectrum that I've seen anyone do we've been able to get units here and there and everywhere at that range 30 seems to be one of the areas where we're also not providing there's such a gap it's growing and so that Folks at that 30% Ami I that's the one I'm concerned about the most today so I'm going to divide it in two I didn't see anyone raise their hand for um 60% Ami unlimited density bonus I saw Zero people except Miss Taylor raised her hand yeah uh and so what about if it was 30% is anybody in support of that well you know I think sometimes things are a little more complic that and let me just bring in a concept that I'm saying is we are moving in a direction where housing that is Affordable and I'm going to use the word subsidize and non-subsidized because we're willing to stand up this program and I I wonder about the annual cost of our monitoring uh checking incomes and so on because that we how we're going to charge these folks you know but um you're starting to move in an area through a lot of these proposals where subsidized affordable housing can start to look so different from market rate yeah and in an arena like that even the last conversation you really want to have a more sophisticated code which unfortunately you know we really haven't gotten there maybe a form based code where you don't have any density and you don't have any height you just have really design oriented a lot of communities do it it's not easy to do but I just I just want to bring up that concept secondly I'm not entirely sure that a lot of the housing subsidize cuz that's what we have that we know has been affordable is even hitting density caps anyway when they construct in a lot of these zoning districts so I I just I think this is is a little bit um muddy um especially if you stay in the bulk stay in the bulk and height so I I just don't think it's a really great okay approach let me I had uh asked council member Eber to hold her comments but no one else did so would you like to make your comment well it was for a different slide it was back one oh one slide back yeah back okay I don't mind going back okay so for this this part this okay this is kind of maybe a couple part question so if if somebody has a a a a parcel that would allow let's say um uh a duplex or a forp Plex on the property would this sta aison look to make sure that there's not some ccnr that prohibits that type of development happening as part of this process um this this is only talking about affordability when we get to duplex Triplex let's let's maybe have that discussion on a future slide thank you okay but I do want to mark this because I think it's incredibly important Point many speakers brought up the map and the map does not incorporate places with ccnr or necessarily HOAs it just Incorporated UDS correct and so we neither need to do the proactive work to make sure the map is correct let's let's wait till we get to the map so everyone understands what the M now team um my concept of us voting did not work so I'm G to have I me it was an experiment it it didn't work well so let me ask the group another idea so density bonus right now again as long as you meet that 60% Ami you're capped out at 45% 45% density bonus let's just keep that status quo not make any changes what if we added another category of 0 to 30% so truly low low income we give you some additional density bonus not unlimited because I think I think maybe that's going a little too far maybe instead of a you know 45% cap maybe if you provide that really low income project we'll give you whatever number you know 60% density bonus when we we only get two to three affordable housing projects a year very few of them are less than 60% Ami they have a couple units that are in the 45% but the majority of every project we see that's affordable is typically in that 45 to 60% Ami so I don't think we're going to get a whole lot of these projects coming in but through this incentive if it's the truly low low income but I think it's a good thing right it's one thing we can do to incentivize it thank you so I'll speak to it I would support that with one caveat I want to know what um the density you we already have in our regulations density um steps size of unit um so like for multif family for instance zoning so we have 1,800 foot, 1400 foot 1,000 sare foot would that apply here nope that is not about affordability that is about that's a different okay very good well I would support it anyone else uh give a a thumbs up or thumbs down Madame vice mayor um Miss fous can I sort of pause at the hypothetical because I think it will help me to get there on that what you propose so there is a vacant uh 3 Acre parcel somewhere in the McCarron ring and nothing's happening with it whoever owns it is sitting on it for whatever reason and we pass this ordinance or this series of ordinances and one of the changes is is that we say if you are going to do 30% Ami we'll give you greater density than you would have otherwise gotten and my question for you is do you think there is some one out there could it be possible that the person sitting on the sidelines would come in the market based on our change of this code there could be okay so then I would be support at 30% affordability because I I think it's just an area that's not yet been found a niche and and then I would hope that we would go out and maybe we'd find those developers maybe we will find and seek them out right I I don't think we've seen a 30% project probably over a decade maybe even longer than that so they they they don't come very often and I'll I'll tell you a concern I have on the downside which is that if you take people at very low income and then you have a density bonus and that means you're squeezing units onto the same spot it means that people that are at a lower income are having a different level of living in that um the uh they may not have a playground they may not have a a dog walk area because the land is being used for more housing and they're living in a very densified environment that they wouldn't necessarily want to and I I don't know if I've explained it correctly but it may result in a less desirable living arrangement for people generally no matter what their income is and what I don't want to do is is get to a process where we have very lowincome folks having to live very uh tightly packed in and it could result in a very um um unacceptable or or undesirable living conditions so I think we have to think that through like it sounds good in concept but I might the reality might be a different Miss Miss Madam vice mayor what about a 7030 project you said Innova was one of your favorite things 8020 that was 8020 what if we had a 7030 category I I don't believe that folks who find themselves at that end of the Ami Spectrum should only live in one portion of town and in one type of dwelling right I think we have um learned through the history of this country's socially engineered Housing Development projects that that is not a good thing because what we want is people of all backgrounds in diverse economic situations to mix and live together because the child who grew up in apartment on Filbert which is me uh was around kids who grew up on zi Lane right and and perhaps that is my own uh inclination so and you and I have had this conversation is that a possibility a 7030 type project yeah why why don't I come up with some ideas to kind of hit what you're talking about um and we can come up with that um also on this is are you comfortable with providing density bonuses for that Workforce housing more the 80% all the way up to 120% I don't think so okay let me let me just pull the group anyone I am stuck on understanding how projects without federal tax subsidy undergoing that monitoring are going to be monitored by our division so I'd like to see a program outline for that because it's a critical piece of this entire concept okay restricted maybe after we I feel that's a dismissive statement I just want to I just I would like legal to look into it too and tell us do neighbors have the ability to enforce on that too okay okay and then I I didn't see any hands raised but I know Miss Taylor said she supported everything you proposed so I'm counting her as a yes and and Mr Martinez for the workforce housing density bonus okay okay okay I saw no other but that gives you a sense of where the council is yeah no that's very helpful I'm trying and then this is just more of an example um again when we're talking about density bonus I just wanted to highlight that you still have to show parking you still have to show Landscaping just to give you an image of what that would look like right if you're zoning allowed you to have 30 units and with that density bonus because you were providing unlimited density or you had a a really low affordability you still have to meet all the zoning requirements so the project on the outside looks exactly the same the number of units on the inside is what would be more so math tells us the units have to be much smaller they do have to be much smaller okay okay so that is it specific to affordable housing okay the next is just dealing with some housing okay so let me pause here um we heard from the public and I made this comment myself and I thank you for doing it right now which is we asked you to divide the discussion on affordable housing from the discussion on housing generally so I think you're signaling we are leaving the topic of affordable housing we are so one thing I did he was a staff leaon that was universally supported and I also wanted to just say what I didn't hear you say in aordable is um is there a way to speed up the construction review that would be the building permit review process which would be an incentive and again we currently are the fastest in the entire State we do it faster than any jurisdiction in Nevada or I have heard that story County thinks they do it faster they don't follow codes what that they also don't follow codes we well they have no housing they have no housing um so let's take them they have not added any housing in the last decade correct you stand cor you I stand corrected Story County does it faster okay um however we have a very quick building permit review process so you don't think we can gain anything there nope our first round of reviews is two weeks our second round of reviews because again they make their changes they resubmit three days okay there's there's nothing to begin there's not a whole lot of room there but again if we have a staff leaon holding their hand say here's the changes you need to make do you understand what that means we can have those discussions so when they submit hope now I want to speak to something council member re said earlier about affordable housing that this isn't what he was hearing the builders asked for and that is the same for me an incentive that they asked for was um we have a rule something about a step back they said if they didn't have to do the step back that would be an incentive I also heard them say that we have a rule about 60% uh something about the landscaping and the 60% of the front do you know what this rule is so for single family zoning there's a maximum coverage of 40% meaning if you're on a parcel that's tiny 6,000 squ feet at your average house size of a of parcel sorry um only 40% of your parcel can have a building on it that's your sheds gazebos and buildings that was not what they were talking about they were talking about a multif family affordable home housing project and there was a requirement for sidewalk Landscaping Etc that had to be 60% had to be in the front or something like that so all of our mixed use zoning districts allows apartments by R um what they're talking about is a zoning code requirement that we provide some kind of window or transparency or amenity we don't want block walls about amenities so 60% of the building that faces a street has to have something pretty and that could either be windows or it could be um trees it could be additional Landscaping but 60% of your Frontage okay of a street so I've heard these two things for affordable housing and I guess I'm just asking we haven't heard of those being addressed as an incentive no but it's an idea I wouldn't propose that well I'm just saying that's what I've heard from the developer we had one project where that came up as an issue and we worked through with them how they were able to meet that requirement okay but would it be an incentive to address those issues that's what I'm asking I don't think I I no I I don't believe so now and if I may it would be a bad idea because let's think about this we want there to be broad acceptance of the building affordable subsidized or not housing and the more you make it allowed to be look different aesthetically which most likely means worse cuz we don't have the strongest design standards then you start to build against that so I think that is is not an incentive if we want to have a conversation about our facade guidelines um and some of our very minimal design requirements let's do that under a general context okay very good well I just wanted to say before we left the idea of affordable housing was there anything else besides these two or three things you proposed nope okay all right well I think you've heard where the council is yeah and again if there's other things that you guys specifically want to address on affordability things we can do to you know streamline the process or to incentivize affordable housing okay feel free to share that with us Miss Taylor did I think you had your hand raised I did Madam vice mayor I just wanted to clarify something I I do support everything that you Angela and your team have brought to us for affordable housing and I think it's a very constrained space to work within and very specialized so all of my comments were in support of affordable housing specifically and I don't think in any way what you have brought to us would be destroying neighborhoods or adding a whole bunch of influence to the market and it's based on what I've heard from the experts to combat affordable housing or is to give more Supply to offer incentives and to um I guess work on the entitlement process so I just wanted to clarify those remarks all right thanks Miss Taylor um I guess I'll ask this before we leave affordable housing do anybody else have a comment I'm not seeing any so let's go on to other housing market rate so again our goal here is to look at what we can do to encourage infill and density and so we already in our zoning code we have a density bonus for market rate we don't care what the cost that you charge for your your apartment we don't look at that at all in this discussion this is strictly for market rate projects we have used this in the last three years on about 12 different projects where they've come forward and they've said hey I've got 10 units I want to be able to do just one more unit but the zoning code doesn't allow me to do that if I if I meet this density bonus requirement meaning how how um big or small the units are can I put in one or two more units and so again we've had 12 projects that have utilize this and I would say that that's pretty good um of that I think we got 60 new units on the market so 60 new housing units these are all again Apartments um we able to be built or come in for a building permit through this process so we looked at that and we said okay for trying to do better maybe we should look at increasing the amount of density bonus you get so we have three categories in our code um and these are based on the size of your unit the the biggest one is 1,800 foot you get a density bonus right now of 15% so 15% more units is what you would get we're proposing to increase that just a little bit so You' get a 35% density bonus that next category is units that are, 1400 ft in size or less we currently give you a 30% density bonus let's propose to increase that now you'd get a 45% and then finally the big one is those really smaller units the thousand square foot and I will say of all those 12 projects that have come forward most of them were a th000 square feet or less so that's again kind of the targeted infill product that we're looking at so right now the max you can do is a 45% density bonus we're proposing to up that to 80% I do just have some pictures so you can visualize what that means this is probably the the easiest one to to kind of understand it was a Motel 6 and they had 124 motel rooms and they wanted to convert all of their motel rooms into Studios and one-bedrooms and so because the zoning kept how much density they could have they could only have a 88 units that meant there were still going to be 36 motel rooms that were just nothing right it was kind of a waste um this is not affordable this was just your average market rate so they're able to use that density bonus to be able to convert every single motel room into a residential unit another one this is a much smaller this was a new build this is in the Wells Avenue area this is a tiny parcel it was less than half an acre definitely an infill site they were allowed to have 16 units just based on the zoning with that density bonus they were able to get two two more units um they weren't able again to add anything taller in height or anything bigger in terms of pushing out the building they still have to provide parking and Landscaping and access around the building so that additional two units just help them um financially because now they had two more units that they could they could market and so that was something that I think was a big plus for them I'm going to stop there okay okay I have a yep let me um let me just say something really quick and I've already had this conversation no news I think these limits the 1,004 1400 and 1,000 are too big an 1,800 squ ft house a house it's three bedrooms two baths it's a regular house and I don't understand why we give density bonuses for that what I want to do is look at these to your point look at these smaller units and give a higher density bonus for those and what I would recommend is reducing these through the code M to something like 800 ft² for the least uh a th000 for the next maybe and 1,200 for the next something like that that's not a regular siiz house why are we giving density bonuses we want to encourage people to build some smaller units that people are calling for and theoretically should charge less for smaller square footage theoretically and have more of them I'm I'm in support of that I just can't go with these numbers they're they're just not realistic I don't think okay so U over to council member Rebecca yeah I mean also the City bonus concept is you know it's it's pretty cumbersome because you have to go with your base Zone and then you have to calculate it out and then you know go off your you know your design I I'd almost rather see just the caps in the base zoning districts if we still have that applicable be increased but I you know in lie of that if you want to have this o overlay of density bonus I I I can support that um but you do need to drop them down but but I don't want to say what to drop them down I want you to tell me what that you know what over the last three years you've been seeing the the market produce because if we're trying to get to these smaller units which we probably are because we know household size is is um shrinking um then I think we calibrate but we don't calibrate it off of what I think today move it to 1,7 500 I'd like a little more analysis on that and if I had had the opportunity to sit through the draft which I started reading and marked up I would have you know brought this conversation forward to you all can you go back to your one on the motel s i I'm trying to understand conversion of a motel to housing GC limits the site to 88 units is that a General commercial correct it doesn't have a South Virginia Corridor overlay that doesn't exist anymore okay so that that's just a gc's location they're not an mu location NOP they're they're Zone General commercial okay okay and General commercial calculates it on density's capped at 45 units per acre okay so it still has an acreage cap for The General commercial okay thank you okay so then um do you let me just get the poll of the group do we want to support this concept of increasing the density bonus and I would with smaller numbers and it didn't I gave you for example I'm not saying it has to be 800 1,200 I'm saying for example it should be something lower yep and we have the data on all the 12 projects so we'll go back and come up with three different categories based on the feedback we heard today okay what what's the uh pulse of the group if you're supportive of this concept I'm supportive with the change but so I'm going to raise my hand anyone Madam vice mayor have a question and what about you council member not sure if you're not sure that's okay yes Mr reee Miss fous I'm trying to understand um your role as um administrator or making an administrative decision are there ever a moment where a project is either in the pre-design or the the the design phase of its project and they are trying to say what else can the city do to help us make this project go because I imagine that often times what happens is the person who owns the 2 acres in downtown Reno it just says here's what the code tells me I can build so I go out and hire architect and Engineers to build it to that thing and then they aren't really thinking about how do they get to the density bonus unless we put that in place is there a way for the US to imbue you with certain discretionary ability to look at a thing like this is is that possible because I'm I'm sort of between Miss derer and Miss breus I think there's value to it but I'm trying to figure out how do we get the product type that we want at the size that we want and I will say all of the projects that have used that density bonus really have been kind of unique oneoff INF field projects and so that that's kind of been a nice thing where they'll come to us and say hey we've got this concept but in order to make this pencil I need to get two more units is there anything I can do to get two more units and we say well you can change the zoning or we say you know what based on the size of your units you can use this density bonus that's in code so it's been effective in that respect because we do have a lot of developers that maybe don't know this is something they can do today so the discussion usually is would you support a zone change and we say we don't even need a zone change you can get those four extra units through this density bonus makes a lot more sense thank you so much all right we're going to move on to you have two more I think okay so this next one is missing middle and we tried to give you an example of what that is a lot of Reno is single family housing and a lot of Reno is Apartments there's not a whole lot of other housing products one of the public commenters talking about Row Housing or town homes or condos or duplex or Triplex so that's really what that missing middle is it's anything that's not an apartment in terms of you know more than five units and it's not a single family home so we looked at um where we currently require a public review process and specific to that topic anything that is in certain zoning districts and we listed those zoning districts there's five these these multif family zoning districts require an extra public hearing if you're less than 100 units um and more than 20 so we see a lot of multif family development in multif family zoning that's where Apartments make sense to go but we find that we keep triggering these public review processes and it adds time and money and so if we're trying to speed those up again our um proposal is to allow for more by development here's three examples um just some of these smaller projects they aren't big projects 40 units 40 units 18 units where they had to go through that additional review process because they were in those zoning districts that triggered it now our our code already says if you have more than a 100 units you require a conditional use permit we're not proposing to change that that would stay the same the only thing we're looking at is if you're less than 100 units like these types of projects um to allow them bu right meaning straight to a building permit still have to meet all your code requirements can't exceed height can't change your parking everything still has to meet your zoning code um but you would be able to again get to Market faster okay all right let me ask the uh Council um how does this feel to you and I'm going to assume I I hope Miss Taylor that you're supporting this um as anyone else a or nay um I will just share I have concerns just by right for anything I don't think it's the right direction to go so I'll just leave it right there anyone else yeah that's my opinion your opinion as well miss breus yeah could you bring on the first slide back yeah so um you know I um I can let's think about this is this is giving staff a lot more Authority okay just to be in their office looking at things and deciding if it comports with the ordinance or not very quantifiable or does it go to the Planning Commission where you know you can design by committee or us you know on an appeal and so I think in theory it's not bad to give staff this um if you have everything else in place like your design standards and and so on um so I'm not necessarily opposed to it except for in those mf14 21 and 30 districts because most likely and there's not a lot of that zoning left around but most likely if you've got something that's um coming in at high multifam it's going to be much larger uh than a 14 a 21 or a 30 zone property because those are typically on your 7,000 foot lots and so they're just smaller you know it's going to be someone who aggregated a lot of lots together and so you're going to have some design issues and I think those do need bedding so the NC the GC and the the PO um I do like to preserve um uh professional office as a um I think it's a useful zoning district and I hate to see it get gobbled up but we don't have a lot of that either the NC and the GC to my recollection when I started with this code in 98 it allowed unlimited density that's why in my last question I asked Miss fous why was GC at 45 uh du because I thought it was unlimited and I think Shane Phillips brought up that we always have had very generous density so for me um you know the NC and the GC are perhaps one that I could be comfortable with seeing go go by right but not the MFS and the POS but I just want to call out a big thing is a lot of the problems we've experienced in the last 10 years 12 15 years here are because we do not do planning we don't do planning for growth areas so we have horses getting strangled on fencing and we don't do infill neighborhood planning in 20 01 I did a planning area planning effort adopted by the council for the West University neighborhood we rezoned upzoned a large part of the university area from 14 to 21 from 14 to 30 got a lot of density on with design guidelines The council's Giving Up on planning and doing everything through through code is just not going to get us to a good place or happy people okay very good Mr Martinez yes yeah thank you so much just a comment on that I uh I think I would be more amenable to passing it if we went to something like 60 units instead of jumping to 100 units but that would be my only comment on that okay and Miss Ebert you're what nothing I agree with you you agree with me okay so that means you agree with Mr Reese too so I heard three maybe three and a half that are against this um Kathleen was in support of it yes um with martinez with changes with changes Martinez with changes and only some of them Miss breus okay yeah one question I have a quickly I want to make sure because this is about this is not about the duplex Triplex fourplex yet correct that's a different one next one okay okay thank you Miss fo I want to make sure that I've been clear though I am someone who's saying I don't want to eliminate the public process from these discussions okay she heard you okay yep so I think what we'll do is we will um remove this recommendation when this comes to a first reading okay we'll leave it status quo the way it's written in the code now we'll keep probably good okay Angela let me ask you how many slides do you have left I think she's her last one yeah this is the last topic and this is where we get to look at maps and okay this is the last topic I just want to make sure you're getting through everything you need to we are cuz then otherwise it's it's just harder to follow yes we're we're very close okay thank you okay so this last doing my best Madam mayor to bring us in for a landing okay keep going this last item is the the one we've heard the most public comments about duplex Triplex and fourplex so we we have four different single family zoning districts so Citywide there's four different categories where you can build single family two of those already allow duplex and triplex in fourplex with a conditional use permit these two here we call it sf3 and sf5 do not currently allow duplex Triplex and fourplex so our recommendation was to allow them in these two zoning districts but with a conditional use permit so again you still have to go to a Planning Commission through that public review process so we do have a number of maps to help you guys understand what that is here's just a a graphic um of our four different single family zoning districts what's approved today today you can do apartments in two of our single family zoning districts that is is a conditional use permit but that's today that's been in code for more than two decades it's not new it's it's been around for a long time um again what we're proposing is single family specific to that sf5 and sf3 not Apartments anything five or more is what we would call an apartment but duplex Triplex and fourplex would be allowed but only after the Planning Commission has reviewed and approved may ask a question on this yes yes you can so you said that the SF 11 and sf8 how allowed apartments for two decades yes we haven't had those districts for two decades what were the predecessor decade zoning districts let me pull up that section of code under the old code they were sf4 and sf6 okay okay and those yeah and how many conditional use permits for uh Apartments have we done in those I don't know I have not checked okay I recall those being more of a town home uh configuration I mean I remember those being used at some point so um let me ask something going on here this this got built in the mf14 zone Donna would you put that on um because I'm I'm hearing this proposal that you have thank you for the sf5 and the sf3 um the sf5 and the sf3 does it involve setback changes no Chang are proposed with this text amendment to setbacks okay well you know I think the way the world is currently aligning um going in this more dense causes problems this was built in the mf14 and it was approved I don't even know how they got a certificate of occupancy through the building department because um it build on the Zero lot line in a mature neighborhood and 100y old plotting 100y old homes almost and um they built to the zero lot line and the neighbors are litigating the neighbors who they're not allowing to trespass on their property to finish out their property you know they're building so I I just see that if you want to go in this direction of allowing duplexes triplexes and fourplexes on these smaller lots and you're allowing this currently under the mf14 which works very well allowing two units um we're going to create a huge problem and I I just I don't understand how this world is happening now but it really raises big flag to me that I don't even think what you're bringing forward on these smaller Lots should be on the table when we're getting out and this was three years ago okay so I'm going to I'm going to take that as a no um do you want me to finish the conversation it's really not a No it's it's really understanding you know the site design considerations and you know there's more to the story sometimes than just density right I'm just not sure what we're seeing is this a duplex yes it is it's a duplex in a zone that allows duplexes okay okay and it's on the Zero lot line and so now if you're going to allow these smaller lots to have not only two but three or four you're going to have scenarios like this if you don't change some other standards and she's saying she's not bringing forward other standards okay how many um let's go back to the presentation going to show you some slides that without interruptions please I thought we were done I thought you said you were done so I'm sorry okay question go back to that later so here's the map I think that a lot of people have talked about everything in Gray is areas that are zoned with some kind of planned unit development or some zoning that does not allow duplex Triplex fourplex everything in green is zoning districts that allow duplex Triplex and fourplex today some of those are through a public hearing process some are just Allowed by right everything in that orange is where staff is proposing to allow duplex Triplex and fourplex but only after Planning Commission has approved a conditional use permit now when we took this to Planning Commission they supported the idea and they also proposed to go a step further and they um proposed that all of our four single family zoning districts should be allowed by right to have duplex Triplex and fourplex all right is that it then yep okay so I'll just comment um some of the comments I've heard from the public are that in an another code the the title 18 update that I think it was in there that you were proposing um to redefine single family so you just said it yourself you would redefine multif family above five so that implies anything below five is single family our definition for multif family today does not match the building code definition for multia right but what is it today um I think it's two or more is what our definition today is so but it would go two or more to five or more correct multif family so does that imply single family is zero to four single family is one so how do you fit what you've just proposed so we we again we currently allow a duplex Triplex and fourplex in our single family zoning districts today and we have for decades two of them sf8 and 11 correct okay so we're proposing to just continue that in these other two zoning districts okay so just very simply I have two comments on it um I'm not supportive of that by right and um the second point about your map is that I think you have to do a more detailed mapping exercise for example in the orangey color um I live in the orange color and I have a we don't have a PUD we don't have a HOA we do have ccnr s the lots have to be an acre or two acres actually two acres something like that and um I'm not I think our cc&rs would prohibit this but you you don't have an accommodation for that and I think it will create confusion where people in my development would think they're allowed to go do this but we don't have an HOA we do have a ccnr committee architectural committee um but if they didn't catch it and they came to the City and they got approval to do a fourplex in our ccnr restricted development again it goes back to council member bre's point about who is enforcing that they could just come to you and you say yeah we we approved that but it's not approved by our ccnr and there's no enforcement so those are my two comments and then thank you very much we've got to get back on track but we are on track the clerk tells me we are not on track well she all right go ahead councilman ree thank you madam uh mayor um uh if I could ask the clerk to pull up a map for me please so this map is a bit too large for me it's hard for me to do it and so I have a map that I've been working with and and here's how I want to explain my position this is a map a zoning map of the Newland area so the Newland is identified here in the black outline and so to be clear what you proposed or what you said with Miss derer and what You' said to me is that much of this area already allows duplexes triplexes and fourplexes by right correct so everything in that uh kind of skin color mf14 you can do Apartments you can do duplex Triplex fourplex today you can do that in all that skin color everything in yellow is sf8 today you can build apartments in sf8 today I think that's what you were referring to everything right okay with the cup yep and so what we're proposing so what we're proposing is that green area which is sf5 to expand to allow duplex Triplex and fourplex but only with a conditional use permit so now here's my input on this particular thing I am not in favor of this proposal um I believe fundamentally that um number one I I don't want to deprive the neighborhoods of the um o the ability of the um the nabs and the cabs to be able to have input into these projects so saying that it's going to happen by right I think Chang the ability of a person to either go in with that process or a minor conditional use permit or change it and I think the result is that again you're you're angering the people who you need to be on your side to support the policies of this city which is to be good neighbors and so for me I don't think it's going to move the needle any way measurably to tell the people who live in this sf5 area that now they could in the future if someone tore down a house put up a fourplex I don't think they're going to do that I think the cost to tear down an existing home and then put it into that new housing stock means it's not ever going to happen so again I don't want to piss off people for something that we're doing in the theoretical when it actually does not happen in reality so I'm not in favor of this uh attempt to address it because I do not think it moves the needle and it does not allow the the neighbors to control the area which they have control over currently so that's my position okay okay let me ask any other council members council member breus yeah I mean that example I showed you is from Newlands on an mf4 property and it's someone approved a building on a zero lot line a new second unit over a garage on the Zero lot line and the neighbors started seeing workmen over on their side of the yard said you cannot trespass on my property to build on your property that's a no so we got some code problems here that are stumbling blocks to get where we want to go I will say again I'm not categorically know on some of this but only through a neighborhood planning process that's how we have to do it and maybe bring in design guidelines I don't know why there you know we're either letting developers come in and Annex land and build or we think we can run everything through a very sophisticated code that has a one neighborhood all I live in Newlands across from a six unit apartment I am happy as a clam okay but you have got to um you know be a little more detailed than writing some miscellaneous code that you have it's just it's it's you know Reno was doing very good planning 25 years ago and these comments with the absent looking at a neighborhood in an area to approach this serious problem of wanting more density is just it's just not the way to do it all right Mr Martinez you had your hand yeah thanks so much M vice mayor I will say that um she said she is done they the allowed uses of duplexes triplexes and fourplexes already allowed in the area that I live in in Donner Springs and no one has done it and so allowing the ability for somebody to do it and it hasn't happened yet I think we don't see the impacts but I do think that opening up these processes a little bit more and allowing folks to have the ability to do it can help as we look at putting all of these things into place and push the needle forward so as you've been mentioning already in the past and was me was mentioned by Mr Phillips one thing is not going to solve all of these issues but if we do move the needle a little bit in the density bonuses we move it in allowing more of the multif family units or the plexus then all of those things in combination in tandem with each other can help us move the needle forward and so I I would be so you're supportive I would be supportive of Miss yeah I don't I don't support it um you know I have concerns you know before I saw council member breit's picture I had concerns about that type of situation happening and also you know I've had people reach out to me about uh their CC andrs in their neighborhood that they didn't know existed until this came up and then they contacted title companies and found out that they did have them so I have a concern too that um if there's not a lot of research done um prior to something like this being approved and built um that there might be some liability you know if the city says it's okay but there's a ccnr like will there be a staff person that would review the area and make sure that there's not some some uh rule that says it's not allowed even if there's not an HOA and and one example I heard it was a ccnr from the 20s that's still in effect you know people didn't know about until they they specifically research is anybody going to take that time and who who gets the liability if they don't and then there's a lawsuit y so the the ccrs we do not enforce as the city we don't review them we don't see them it is up to the property owner to know about them um one thing that we can do is we can add some language to our code that says to that right to that effect it is up to the property owner to know their ccrs if um if if it does come out that they have cnrs that don't allow adus or duplex or Triplex and and we are aware of that then we would say no but um you know similar to ccnr say you can't paint your house pink we do not enforce that right you can't call code enforcement and say my neighbor just painted his house pink ccrs don't allow it we won't respond to that it's it's very similar to to anything else in the ccrs that talk about how long your trash can can be out or who's allowed to live in the neighborhood we do not enforce those yeah I I don't think painting or house pink is is exactly the same as building a t a d a duplex next to next to your house but my point is we do not enforce those okay thank you all right council member Taylor any further comment on this I just wanted clarification that this still requires a cup review right that was staff's recommendation yes but Planning Commission said no right they said by right correct so we have two different things here miss Taylor I I thought I saw a cup with a recommendation of cup on your slide that would be my only comment I would support well I just want to be clear though that's not what the Planning Commission recommended Planning Commission recommended to allow them by right in all four of our single family zoning districts right but you are you modifying that now and your presentation to us no I'm telling you what staff's recommendation was and then the next slide show you what planning commission's recommendation was right there it says planning commission's recommendation got versus staff's recommendation okay all right I'm supportive of Staff recommendation all right very good Clarity um I have uh one more question and that is I asked it earlier but I didn't hear an answer and that is in the zoning code though you're changing what is a single family home or you're proposing to change no no I don't understand why people keep saying that but help me help me understand what you think that means well when you say multif family is now defined as five and above the word apartment or multif family would be five or more units yeah we have a separate definition for a duplex for a Triplex and a fourplex that's why it's a little unique if we didn't have uses like a duplex Triplex and fourplex all of it would be multi family because we separately break those categories out they all are separate uses and have to be allowed in that different zoning District okay so that's what I wanted to Clarity on because I've heard different many people say something different okay thank you that answers that question I think it does I think it does all right Madam vice mayor I I just want to make sure that um Miss fous understands my point is that I do not believe that we need to change the sf3 and sf5 to include duplex triplexes and fourplexes I don't think that makes a measurable difference and it will not move the needle on creating more affordable housing so rather than um ask existing neighborhoods to sort of accept that fate I'm just saying that is not what I want to have happen if it comes through on a minor conditional use permit or some different kind of uh zoning uh change as you described earlier in the conversation we had today about how people come to you and they say well I'd like to do this but I don't think I can you say well we could Zone it differently that's a whole different discussion and if that happens I might be interested in it individually at that time but I really cannot say broad brush that I just think that all of these have to be changed to allow for that because I it's not a measurable impact on what we're trying to move forward absolutely and I think what we're hearing what I'm taking away from this is that we are not going to move forward with this concept we're not going to change anything that's in code today will stay the same we won't propose to make any changes on the topic of duplex Triplex or fourplex which was a by I think the by right really tripped a lot of people up I'm just sharing and uh from remember they're responding to the Planning Commission yep so this whole the staff proposal was a little bit overlooked yep okay so again we what in code today we will not change we S3 or sf5 clarify that um I agree with my colleague on everything he just said with one exception he said something about affordable housing but this part isn't about affordable housing this is just about housing right correct okay all right any final comments before we wrap up I think we've given a lot of detailed response to miss fous on everything she wanted um any last comments I don't see any so do we what you've heard our direction we don't have to take votes right no this is just feedback we'll come back at your second meeting in June with a first reading okay and then your next meeting won't be till July for the second reading well wait a second don't you have to go back to the Planning Commission we do not if you would like me to go back I can go back and express your guys' feedback and then get their feedback on your feedback no I think I think it's fine I just because the ordinance has changed so much okay so first reading in June and second reading will be that first meeting that you have in July okay well I do want to sit with staff okay I want to sit with I want a copy of the red line and I would really like to understand um on that red line um what is meeting the ab 213 that would be very helpful if you could go through AB 213 with a checklist of what's required and what we've done right yeah cuz a lot of these are standards and I my reading the ab 213 was it was procedural right okay all right do you have you have what you need Miss fous thank you for soldiering on and listening to us back to you Madame mayor I think we're on ready for the next item yeah Angela I think you have done an amazing job good for you honestly really good for you um Madam clerk thank you madam mayor we're on moving on to items um D2 and D three which has been requested that we open them together okay here's the thing um I kind of want everyone to get up and move a little bit before we do this it's been 3 hours yeah it's been three hours and it's just not good to sit here so go go outside get some fresh a go to the restroom or get something to eat please and then we'll come back in 10 minutes what what is the items that were I didn't understand someone said the next items are going to be open to together what items are those two and three D D2 and D3 oh okay okay oh just in order gotcha e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e this aligns with our strategic plan um T oh thank you sorry economic and Community Development infrastructure climate change environmental sustainability Arts parks and historic resources and I also wanted to point out that um in the downtown action plan investing in the trucky River Corridor is part of the implementation item 1D so just to recap what we're doing today is we're talking about funding for arpa we're not doing any acceptance of the larger trucky River Vision plan and um I did just kind of cover how this is arpa arpa dollars need to be encumbered into contracts by the end of this year which is why we're moving these forward now and then all projects need to be completed by the end of 2026 this timeline here at the bottom um is just to show where the $3 million of the allocation has been to this point we put just over 300,000 toward the vision plan with dig um um and then the two parts today are 300,000 or just under that and then we'll have a little bit over $2 million to continue to allocate toward other projects over the next month or two months so just a reminder we hired dig to help us Vision a vision for the trucky River Corridor um there was Inspirations around the country and and other places in the world that have beautiful rivers and River fronts and so they proceeded to go through a public Outreach process where we got to hear from the public about what the public would love to see the TR River Corridor be for the future of our city we engage with many stakeholders throughout the region including the Indian Sparks um so Reno Sparks Indian colony tmwa the flood Authority the Tahoe pyramid Trail one trucky River was County Arts historic resources RPD River Rangers fire department special events small businesses and many more groups we had water Recreation people coming out um and one of the thing these are the top things we heard from stakeholders was we wanted to promote legitimate use create a detailed implementation plan that builds on other plans we've had in the past have a cohesive design and maintenance program for the river promote the importance of water quality in all aspects and honor the historic purpose and bring people back to the river we also did a large amount of public Outreach through surveys and going to different public events around town um where we could meet with people and discuss what they wanted to see we also had a commenting board um where people could comment and say what they loved and didn't love and had ideas we had thousands of um points of Engagement through this process and learned a ton about what people wanted to see along the trucky River we heard that the things that people think are essential for a thriving River Community are parks and Open Spaces nature education and observation and water access points and the things that regularly keep people from using the river are cleanliness and Aesthetics safety concerns and lack of Trail connectivity so those things led us to our goals that are guiding the recommendations that we're going to be bringing forward forward with arpa the first one is to create a clean and safe Riverfront the second is to create a connected Riverfront with easy access to the river and the third is to implement a cohesive plan for consistency in design and long-term maintenance um and so just as a reminder the scope of the trucky River visioning plan is the entire River corridor from the California state line to the the border of Sparks but for these AR recommendations they're really focusing on where that yellow square is in the core of downtown Reno so for part one um we are looking at spending money on trash cans throughout the corridor from basically from idow wild park down to John Champion Park Petway stations along that same route um developing a wayfinding plan in signage for the downtown core and doing a paint refresh in a lot of elements along the trucky River Corridor in the downtown um like extended downtown region um don't worry the trash cans do not need to be blue this is a picture of um an animal um an animal and tamperproof trash can and then I also have a picture here of the trash cans that have recently been implemented in downtown um for a few things we're we're seeing having a different aesthetic for the parts of the river Corridor that are outside of the core of downtown and then a more urban aesthetic for the urban core so the animal proof trash cans would be along the Trail in the areas that are uh you know there's more nature it feels more like a park or a trail and then the ones that are the black ones would be more cohesive with our downtown um look in the core so we're looking at 48 trash cans from Idol wild park to John Champion Park um pest pet waste stations would be implemented along that same route and then here's a map of where those are mapped out to be located on average they're 300t apart on the trail and then at a higher concentration where parks are where you have higher foot TR traffic the plan for w finding and signage so um one trucky River with um n Nevada land trust and some other groups did a wayfinding plan for the trucky River and they've been implementing that it is really conducive to the feel of Parks and Recreation and so one of the things that it doesn't really address is having a downtown core um aesthetic along the river so we're putting money toward um a wayfinding and design standard that would build on top of what they've already done so it will basically be cohesive but there would be some change in the way finding and logo and look as you are walking on the trail and you enter the downtown core to just show you that there's some you're in a different part of Reno and um so there's money that's going to be going to a plan for that with with logo development and then we're putting in some of these new imple sorry we're implementing some of these new things that need to have new branding for the city and so as we to figure out what that way finding looks like we'll be able to implement that on the trash cans we're putting in as well as um some other money for signage along the corridor and then um paint refresh this is a part of the funding that needs to go to paint for refreshing things like Bridges light poles and railings there's going to be some additional funding um we've we've have a new quote for this essentially so we'll be bringing some more money for paint um and asking for that at our next uh time we bring truck your items to so before we this is the motion for those items but before we go into the Motions I'll have Brian come up and present the second part so you have all of the information all right thank you Annie sorry awesome Brian Mardo revitalization manager for the record so I'm here to do part two part two is the activation and some improvements in Wester Plaza uh this is something thing we've prioritized prioritizing our three downtown plazas Locomotion Plaza Wester Plaza and City Plaza and so with that uh part of it is what we're calling aim it's activation improvements and recognizing that these spaces need long-term maintenance and so this budget here for roughly $300,000 covers those things 300 $150,000 for Activation of the space for two full event Seasons some kiosk and Furnishings to be placed in the plaza and um with the uh the kiosk going in there should be long-term stewardship of the plaza and so additional maintenance will not be needed so the first part is Activation so Rachel McIntyre our activation coordinator has done a great job working with promoters to Target activations in West stre Plaza with this budget first one is Harmony on the river it's with the Reno Phil harmonic that'll be conducted second Tuesdays from June to September and then we have flicks on bricks with the Cera Film Festival that'll be conducted weekly um from August to October and the last is just putting some food trucks activation on the Plaza uh weekly on Sundays from June to October so the event season in 2025 and 2026 uh Wester Plaza will have weekly and monthly activations and with that some infrastructure needed for this space is movable movable Furniture uh to just give people a chance to sit in the space Act Naturally activate it as well as a kiosk in the corner this is about a 40ft trailer kiosk portion of it will be used for the storage of the movable Furniture when an event uh wants to use the space and that furniture needs to be moved away uh it could be used also for retail and then a portion of it will be used for safe and clean and River Rangers at some point with people in that kiosk there will be natural stewards of the space so there'll be eyes on the space some Nance that can be done as well as the ambassadors and the DRP will continue to do some normal maintenance like pressure washing they're doing currently so those are those items um in the future coming back Amy mentioned that there are funds still available under arpa to be dedicated along the try River um we're not going to get into those today but some improvements along Riverside Drive uh redesigning some Riverside Drive with the flood wall as as as well as uh additional light poles adding safety and and lighting through through the corridor of the river uh those will be coming back in the next few weeks to be approved at a different time and so this is the second part of the motion as Amy mentioned there's a part one and a part two uh so I'll go back to her motion if we want to take that one first and Happ to answer any question yes okay hold on a second we're gonna follow process okay all right going to start with you Council door go okay um first of all Kudos I'm so excited about you know starting starting to both activate the river more and then add these facilities couple quick questions on the dog waste bags is this something we're going to be able to continue to replenish the bags and will they be located near the trash cans so that the bags end up in the trash can yeah yes so the they are basically going to be next to trash cans not every trash can Will have one um we have a few more trash cans those but um yes they'll be adjacent to a trash can and the syre Department will'll keep them filled with bags keep them filled yes keep I often see in communities they have the receptacle with no bag yes okay do do we have them now what do we have them now because when I did when I did my cleanup there was not one to be found yeah not one and there was a ton of do in Virginia Lake what they did at that Park was I had a community group come together clean the park and uh some of the people made the bag dispensers and then the idea was to keep them filled but I've often been there with no filling so yes that they're not filled and people bring their extra you know plastic bags from the grocery store and stuff them in there but it's rare yes it is and I mean there are sometimes issues with people coming and just taking all of them out for not the intended use ah um but obviously we will we have a plan to be replenishing them regularly okay then another question I had is a quite a while ago when we were talking about the bike Network mhm over near the new police station there was a big question about um wanting an on-ramp to the bike to to the path on the river and I went out and surveyed it with the staff with I mean Carrie was there I've talked about talked it through with The Advocates of our proposal was to put the bike onramp on the guess what be the west side of this bridge it's Sutro I think Sutro bridge on the west side is it possible to encor I don't know what that costs but I know that that was a big ask and I wondered if we can incorporate it this time I I have no idea maybe it take over the whole budget I don't know we so in Dig's overall plan they have a lot of recommendations for connectivity as you're speaking of um at this time um there are some other priorities that are like lighting stuff like that I didn't know what the budget is and I don't know what the cost is so I can't really say I'm just asking there there is a much larger connectivity plan with with recommendations for more access like what you're talking about and I can get back to you with more exact pricing okay and one last just thought I just want to make sure when dig is doing their plan I've been involved for like 30 years on the river so many groups have have including the one treky River have put plans together and I just one of the comments I heard back was just that they weren't sure there was a lot of intensification of use let's say an interest in retail or use but they weren't sure that there was equal opportunity for just nature along some of the areas oh and we have been working very very closely with one trucky River in this process and when we're talking about things like retail or Urban kind of Urban Development really in the downtown court um that's all I okay thank you would you consider that as part of the river not really the downtown like let's just say Virginia Street do you not Virginia Street but more like City Plaza or where the Riverwalk is um like in front of the post office that those areas are where we're talking about okay or like West Street Plaza MH yeah I'm just trying to figure out how far down um I love it love it love it there is one thing that I have really big heartburn over okay um couple things just want to ask you how often are we doing a trash can um 300 feet along the Trail and um higher density in the park areas okay I don't know bless you um I don't know if that I just I don't know what the recommendation is I have to tell you I walk downtown and um it's I mean honestly those trash cans are way too far apart the other thing that I have this is not toward youa me at all I'm just I'm very frustrated when I see how far trash cans are especially on a lot of our cleanups downtown MH and the other thing is is we need to have and I they don't have to be blue but the other Square trash can because the other one you can't fit anything in there like it's very very difficult but you what you can do is you can pull trash out and I see people trying to not trying successfully pulling trash out of those ones that you know you see um I think they're very Antiquated cities have told me they're not really using that style anymore because of that reason um so I that's just me I think it's a I don't think they're very effective are you thinking of the black one she showed I was agree it seemed way too open yeah and so people pull things out of them but also you can't put when you do them you have to like turn everything sideways and then put them in right um the other ones the and the other ones I like too because you can also use that as dual like advertising and you can put a poster on it and matter of fact Midtown and they don't have to be the um electronic or whatever the big belly yeah they don't have to be that but they can look like that right and Midtown has them where they are advertising um a lot of their events and I just think they're they look up a lot better but at the end of the day they really are um make more sense to keep that trash inside because people are pulling stuff out of their left and right or actually hiding drugs in there like whenever you know there's incidences they're throwing them in there and because they can go back can get them yeah so thank you okay uh I'm going to send it to councilman ree go ahead thank you madam mayor um Miss Pennington first of all I think all of the things you've identified in the first uh batch of the presentation were outstanding I'm really looking forward to it I had a question though on the second part of the presentation is that Mr mardle or is that you depends um and actually maybe one part was for you to it was paint refresh that was near the bridges and railings so how far does it get us how how much of the purple is going away so um we've actually since since we put these numbers together we do have a a larger quote for all of the painting and the purple that um will it including this it'll be about 300,000 and so we're planning on bringing the remainder of that money to you um in two I'm excited about it um but yeah it will be light Poes railings Bridges the purple thank you so very much I'm excited about that Mr mardle um there is a slide here that you label as future item design and lighting and then you said something like don't ask us any question about this because we're going to bring this back later can I ask a question about this sure okay so along Riverside Drive uh rotary and uh Deb finel DB Fel um have installed and do maintain a fantastic park it has some of the best um plantings and and foliage and flowers I was down there last weekend uh while they were doing a park cleanup have we consulted with that group about all the things happening there I don't know if DB finel was consult directly I have been a part of those plantings over the years I remember we ripped out 20 bags of trash when those things and now it looks beautiful um I don't know if those uh changes on that strip that they have been improving as well as by Centennial Park will be changing um except for if a flood wall is needed flood wall improvements and I don't know if we have full design just yet the par are we talking about the park that's like from Arlington to Ralston are you talking about the landscape strip along Riverside Drive or Bicentennial Park specifically it starts in Bicentennial Park and then it follows along Riverside for almost the length so if you think about starting where the um is it the celle garden is there and then the Bison park with all the fabulous art and then it rips around the corner through past the Lear and all the way down basically to um the bridge I'm talking about what I see on this um this Riverside Drive linear Park yes so um there is a a flood wall that needs to go into this space and so it will be disrupted and so we are basically wanting to have money for design of a park to go along it with new lighting that would be down facing along the path and we will be make sure it all seems fabulous I'm just saying has Inc ownership of this stretch of of Reno and we've got to talk with them about it because I don't want it to be a surprise to them and they deserve to have a voice in it they have built and planted and done so much incredible stuff there it really is a beautiful Park um even if it's just there and you don't notice it so often thank you for highlighting them we'll make sure to incorporate them thank you so much all right uh councilman Ebert no no okay councilman Martinez no uh Council Taylor no okay with that do you oh M I just wanted to say that I'm really excited about to see this um especially the West brick Park improvements I think that is a game Cher for that space and I'm very appreciative to the team and I also think um based on the recommendations that were in this presentation of what of what the team heard safety is a big concern so um I think the river Rangers that we talked about at our last meeting are definitely part of this and then moving forward with the additional River ranges from our partner agencies are are super critical to making this work um for the community so thank you yeah okay thank you so much okay so I'm going to make a motion um and we'll see if it passes but I would like to ask that the trash cans are all um animal proof so uh to accept staff recommendations along with um changing out the black ones unless there's something that you guys need to include in that Amy um there you go comment do you want to comment on this little all I don't I don't know if you asked for my comments but uh Nathan Nathan Parks and Recreation director so I think some of the concerns with the uh the animal things are not only changing the mouth a little more uh of a challenge to change them out and I think that's some of the same problems with the current model is that we've tried to make them restricted to pull things out including that adding that bar in uh that you can kind of see Midway through the opening to try to restrict that and I think some of the answer is having consistent emptying of the of the uh trash cans on a on a regular basis which I think you understand this as much as anybody the river Rangers won't be able to necessarily support that every at every can but being aware of when they're full and getting a call out um to me is preferable and I think the idea of having the animals Animal proof ones along the river the rest of the way where they won't be able to or be seen as often um is the reason for that so um we could put them in every space yeah thank you no thank you and I I think you're totally right I think you hit the nail on the head with like they actually need to be emptied more often and and so here's and this is another reason why I say the blue and I don't want to call it blue cuz maybe we do different color this is the very reason why the other ones you start to see the trash and they just sit there and it looks so bad and at least with the other one you don't see the trash that sits there so that's where I kind of like and you see it all the time I have to tell you we I mean yeah I hate to say that and part of it too the reason why the trash is overflowing is we don't have enough trash cans downtown you know um but Nathan I think you hit the nail on the head um so it's just I I don't know I get frustrated over trash cans and remember the Disneyland model the Disneyland model is like every I don't know 35 60t yeah it's 60 feet and we should really be doing that in a city the cities that stay um impeccably clean are using that model and we're not and then I and not you Nathan at all but I get a lot of excuses of why we can't do something it seems like I get NOS more than yeses and so this one is one where I see it and I truly cringe because the um the trash stays at the very top and you see it and at least in the blue one you don't but anyway thank you Nathan I appreciate so I'm feeling very um I guess uh I guess Prejudice towards the blue ones so anyway that's where how where I I'm at I just clarify one thing that um what's being proposed right now is just for the cans along the river not the entirety of downtown so just so the coun where um but still I I still worry about it um for the same reason yeah all right so um mayor I'm not I would love to support but I'm not sure I understood it um there are pictures of two trash cans one is a blue color and one is black which one do I get if I vote yay on this motion so um both of the trash cans can come in Black so I just I'm saying there are two Styles there're two Styles so the I what is being proposed and what from our parks and M Department weighing in on this was having the same trash cans the black ones on the screen that are in downtown in the downtown core along the river and then the ones that are the the blue style um as you go out from the river path like outside of the downtown area and Madam mayor which ones are your preference I hope I hope I made an artion the of why that is he just wants to know what your motion is my motion is to Blue approve this however take see the black trash can turn it into the blue one so just nothing get rid of the black ones and so I'll that you can make it black no it's not about the color it's about the style and the mayor is preferencing the blue style and so for all the trash cans and I've seconded the motion it's functional it's just more functional and can I make a quick oh I'm sorry I I just have a quick discussion I the ambassadors too also um prefer the other one because they're constantly seeing people pull stuff out of the the other ones and Madam mayor my clarification is not because I doubt uh one over the other I'm trying to make sure that for $112,000 we can get the ones on the left side of the screen that happen to be a light is blue color right if we can then it sounds like staff needs to have a moment to do you need to have a moment Madam mayor if I may I there is a cost difference with city manager Brant yeah there's a cost difference okay there is we we sorted it out thank you Jackie Bryan assistant city manager for the record yes mayor you are correct we do not change the trash out frequently enough we haven't have enough staff to do that we also need more trash cans downtown however what was proposed was for the round style in the downtown portion of the river and for the square style black for the river portion of the river we've confirmed that the 48 trash cans that are needed will be 112,000 for the square style if you would like the square style even in the downtown portion that includes the believe Plaza that includes West brick Plaza West Street Plaza and that's the and how much more is it though it would not be the budget includes it it's at 112 for 48 trash cans if you want more trash cans it will require more money no what we're asking is in the blue style correct it sounds like that costs more can you tell us the cost difference there is none the budget no they're saying there is one they're they're nodding this this was this budget was for the of the blue style the blue style correct so this is 48 blue style is 112 fine okay well let's go then motion a I don't understand why you're showing us this trash can the other one because it was advised to put those in along the river in the downtown core so I added it oh okay that's why okay yeah but and and can I just say this I want everyone to be in mind like when we're branding everything should be cohesive and the same instead of like you know different styles and different colors and you know so just think that in mind let's stick with like one and try to maybe they'll be black with the city emblem on them something like that okay um Motion in a second all those in favor say I I all those opposed motion carries okay next Madam mayor for staff clarification I believe you need a second motion correct on item D3 what's in you now I'll move to approve I have a motion counc second I have a second I was just trying to see what it was I all those opposed motion carries on item D4 item D4 Madam clerk do you have any public comment I would think we do thank you Madame mayor I do not have any public comment registered on this item additionally I have not received any correspondence all right Madame mayor I'm prepared to make a mo please please do Madame mayor I move to approve staff recommendations enthusiastically all right I have a motion I have a second all those in favor say I I all those opposed motion carries unanimously Best Day Ever good good job Monica the best love your presentation all right bye you guys um go ahead uh Madam clerk thank you Madame mayor moving on to item D5 okay this is um the recruitment process Norma tell us where we're at Time online and how we get going I will item D5 D5 please good evening Norma Sano HR Director uh I'm here to talk about the city of manager recruitment process so as you know uh Reno Reno City Charter governs the process by which we appoint or the city council appoints a new city man manager article one specifically provides for City uh Council to appoint and then article three requires uh that the appointment or the vacancy of a city manager be uh filled within 6 months uh as you know um our city manager Doug Thornley did announce his res voluntary resignation at the beginning of April of this year which means we would uh need to have the position filled by January 7th of 2025 what I have for you today is actually asking you specifically for direction on the process that you would like to employ to fill the position this is not asking for any particular direction on who you want to appoint or any uh interim appointments or anything like that it's really about the process we want to use to appoint a new or find our next city manager what I am recommending as a HR director is that uh Council authorize the HR department to engage an executive recruitment firm to conduct a search for our next city manager this is of course solely a recommendation I'm looking for your direction on how you want to move forward we think that a uh obtaining an executive recruitment firm does provide uh an independent process by which we go out and get candidates for you to consider they would develop a recruitment strategy they would uh help with the candidate profile development after hearing from you of what your priorities are and what you would like to see in your next city manager and they would do extensive Outreach and manage all of the recruitment process lastly vetting and the and screening and applicant poll that would be presented for your consideration so just for purposes of a general recruitment timeline this of course is uh uh can be changed slightly we do have that six-month period we're working with under Charter we do envis if you provide Direction on who you want the recruitment to be done that I will be back here to you in J in June with a recruitment firm uh selected if you authorize or direct me to do so at which time that you would be in uh able to provide direction to that recruiter on what you're looking for and what your priorities are then they would go out and seek whatever uh public input if whatever Direction you have for them on how to develop a recruitment strategy and a timeline which would be presented back to you in July for approval uh prior to actually uh putting it out there on the market for candidates and so lastly we would be looking at likely a 60-day period where the recruitment would be open sometime around August and September with candidates being reviewed around October uh or November we have some flexibility there I know there's some considerations in that period that are important uh finally being being able to get the final interview of the candidates in front of you uh by December so with that I am going to recommend um the uh Motion in front of you and I'm happy to answer any questions that you may have all right Norma thank you so much you're welcome um wait I moved to approve uh Human Resources okay so that's what I was looking for um the only thing since we've done this like five times uh is it will make or break the search process and just the process in general based on who you have and I'm not I've also done it over at other boards I'm sure you guys have too so I feel like I where I see the biggest mistakes and the biggest pain points is in the recruiting firms and how I guess how experienced they are um and also working with governments um I've seen both on both sides so just know like for me like they have had to have experience in this space because we've done both and you can really tell the difference and it's not going to help us at all absolutely and and again the recommendation is that you authorized um myself to select a recruitment firm so just for your awareness we did do a request for uh qualifications in 2022 for executive recruitment firms that we used when we recruited and selected Chief n we do have a about five organ um firms that applied with government experience um so we would be look I would be looking to interview them and select unless you provide a different direction and um feedback no I just wanted to let you know like that's where I see it going really wrong anyway I'm going to start with councilwoman breus yeah so um couple things is first of all um Mr Thornley is is he on administrative leave Madame mayor you have the okay here's what we're not doing just I'm going to let everyone know this is not the time to talk about Mr Thornley we're going to talk about the process I want to keep it on here we're going to stop jabbing at one another and we're going to move forward I don't want to talk about him unless his character and competence is on the agenda and it's not so we're going to be respectful and he's not even in the room so we're going to be respectful and just talk about the process CU I know you have value in that because you've done it many times like I have okay you cut me off but I just wanted to know his status because I have not known his status and I have a a question wanting to know his status and if he is in the building day today I'll let you answer that because that's not what let you answer that later but I would presume as you said he is on the payroll until July 7th so you'll conduct an exit interview with him I would presume secondly who's going to be the interm during this period that is a council decision cuz when he appoints someone to act that termination ends July 7th so this is about the process you're suggesting a long interm process when are you bringing the council's decision to do an interm because it's very it's very common for bodies to go to one of those recruiting firms and ask for an interim placement right um so the item before you right now has nothing to do with an interim placement but in a memo to council that I authored after a city manager thornly announced his resignation I shared with Council that I would be bringing two separate actions forward this one is solely on Direction on the recruitment later on I will be bringing something forward regarding uh an interim appointment consideration coun okay Karma we have six months right I'm going to defer to legal as far as by Charter right okay yes by Charter you have six months from the departure of the city manager yeah I mean going back to her Point she wrote a memo about two items I would presume the interm item in decision is maybe more pressing but in terms of the um secondary Recruitment and it'll it'll extend after I'm gone it'll be mid mid process and and that be that as it may I've been through this twice and worked very closely with the recruiters and we use Bob Murray who's probably the best on the west coast the most well-known do we use her for them for keep n we did not but BB Murray is one of the firms that provided their their uh their name and the other one was cpsm I don't recall if cpsm CS anyway that's the okay anyway we've used the firms and both times I kept close dialogue Madame mayor you want to hear this um I I I kept really close contact with the recruiters and they were stunned with the outcome because the outcome completely did opposite of what was in the candidate profile experienced city manager Reena wants an experienced city manager and we're well positioned to do that like just like we got Chief Nance someone who left you know their service you know to the length they needed in California a lot of them want to come over here and do five years here so we can get some really good candidates and Madame mayor what happened was the recruiters I talked to I debriefed with them afterward and they were really stunned that both instances we picked non city managers so okay if if if some of you and I'm talking to you okay um let me just go I'm going to come back to you yeah that's fine I can con my go ahead I'm okay for this round yeah thank you thank you all right councilman ree M councilman dur yeah excuse me um you said or either you Madame mayor or you Norma said something about the critical IAL nature of who we select I don't remember which one I think it was the mayor so I think there's another critical point in this too where I see things sort of fall apart and that's the point at which they suddenly realize that their names will become public and then you see like half the pool pulling out or maybe it became real and they pulled out and so I wonder if there's a way to to manage that in advance so that the firms are very clear on the process and clearly vet this with the candidates so there's less shock at the point in which they say well well I mean if you make my name public my previous occup you know uh employer will know and I'm not ready for that and I might not get selected and they get cold feet and we we even see this in the superintendent search so I just wonder is there something we can do to address absolutely and we actually employed something exactly like that with Chief n Nance recruitment we made sure that the recruiter ahead a time and it was part of the uh recruitment brochure announced at what point will the names become public and in fact that's another reason why it's important to get an independent executive Search firm because they have greater uh autonomy to preserve the names of the candidates until we get closer to the end which is very attractive if Executives or other individuals are looking for a job they want to protect their names until they know they're they're the top they're serious they're in top three or something right well anyway that's where I've seen a lot of these fall apart okay and so I just I wanted to register my concern about that perfect that's a good good note okay all right C uh go ahead councilman re thank you madam mayor um Norma can we go to the slide there I'm Sorry Miss anoyo I apologize for that um yes yes so the the one thing I will say about this slide and and certainly I support 100% the decision to go out and hire an appropriate recruiting firm I will leave it to your better and more informed judgment about which firm ultimately is selected um we've done this on every board and commission we've served on everybody is experienced in it this is the best practices I am worried about the timeline um I do think it is difficult if I am a general I mean I'm sorry I'm someone who's applying for the job and I am a city manager in say pipy and I am looking at this timeline and I think to myself well I am going to have to essentially candidate for and uh apply for and be in person for this job in November and December of 2024 um it worries me that um very good and qualified candidates may not be willing to do that during the holidays uh maybe they have small children maybe they um are at a stage in life where they have no children but they like to travel whatever the reason being is that November and December become very complicated months for human beings do you have any thoughts about that it is a reality of our timeline absolutely right I do think that the there's some flexibility in um when Council uh appoints and and and engages somebody I think that may satisfy our our Charter requirement and that we then you've committed somebody and that we give them some flexibility and in establishing themselves in the community maybe they're with the community already so that won't be a challenge but uh maybe their start date isn't going to be until after the holidays um another consideration it's during election period uh so that's also going to be a challenge for our candidates so those are some of the realities of our recruitment time frame I don't know if that you mentioned that I I hadn't thought about that but yes certainly if I am a candidate and I'm in Tuscaloosa Alabama and I am thinking about either my current job and the impact of an election on that particular thing maybe I am interested in moving maybe I'm interested in moving only if a certain person is elected to that body so I I'm just wanting to ensure that we get the most qualified pool of applicants because we are an amazing City and we are a city on the rise and a city that has a lot to offer so I'm trying to get the best applicant pool I think the other thing that we will make sure we do in our recruitment brochure is that we lock in certain dates so that individuals can plan ahead uh you know if we tell them these are the the date ranges by which we're going to be doing interviews or pre- inters or interviews they will have almost you know I don't know 3 months to prepare if not more um depending on when we put the recruitment brochure out could we for example in your um beautiful presentation here the things that are in June could those be bumped over to Bubbles uh meaning that that June stuff starts in August the July stuff starts in October August and do you see what I'm saying yeah we definitely have some flexibility there where I would not have a lot of flexibility is I want to come back I want to present the executive firm to you for your feedback in June for sure and then everything else there's some flexibility there okay that that certainly makes more sense to me and I am more in line with that I would rather see some of the other boxes pushed out just a little bit further to avoid the November December December bubbles happening when they do right and what you're sharing will be uh shared with the recruiter so when they come in July in June excuse me they will have um have heard you and come with recommendations and you can provide further uh direction that can adjust things if needed okay thanks all right councilwoman Taylor all right councilwoman breus go ahead yeah I mean just to go back and and I know we've all done these in different bodies but city managers are are really unique you know the author span of authority is so strong so big so um and there's such competition for talent and what having really close dialogue with the two recruit crors the time before the council's decision to go with um people who did not have city manager experience in direct opposition to your candidate profile saying you wanted to experience that city manager was was haywire and the council's always right the decision they make but it shook up I think the candidate the outcome it really shook up the outcome so if there's people I someone quoted to me that the mayor said she wanted someone from Reno t with Reno ties you know if that's her view and she is first among equals put that in the brochure because that won't make it look like a bad faith thing going on and those 10 people who have Reno ties with you know city manager experience people will know they're in line because we do have this really unique opportunity to bring experienced people in from California where it's always been very attractive but if we want a HomeTown we need to Hometown and and even though we hire the recruiter the recruiting firm they also work in the field and they are very careful with a city manager applicant they'll talk to a city manager applicant and say you know they don't want to burn those people and they don't want to burn other people so we need to be good they they want to say you know look Reno has been twice out the out the shoot with this mayor um and hired kind of inside candidates both times maybe take a hold on it you know and and that's the fear that I have so let's just be very transparent and open about what our preferences are and not go through something that is maybe um you know what we wanted to do all the all along and and and an opportunity for this Council really would be that's why the interim is so important is you know if there's an interim person you want to test out who has ties when she comes back in June do an interim selection do an interim for a year or so you know that's a good way cuz I do think we have a poor record we have a poor record of three individuals with no city manager experience coming in here and you know I don't think there's I I think we've weathered a lot the pandemic the Great Recession but we haven't made the strides we needed to we said homelessness was solved you know reduced greatly Midsummer we see today homelessness count was up we had what three people kill on our roads last year last weekend we really have some challenges and um I think you know to just not make this a charade we need to be very upfront with ourselves are we going to go with an experienced city manager and tell the recruiter to bring those people in or do we want to demo someone who maybe has ties and we'll have a bunch of people we know Lobby for them thank you all right first of all I want to add see it's interesting cuz it we just have very different ideas and I don't slam her for her her ideas and so um I want to be clear for on the record that we use two recruiting firms and the person that you selected did not get chosen they were probably just as as good I so I kind of resent the fact that you're saying that they're inside candidates and I didn't say with Reno ties I've watched where a lot of times you get someone from outside the area even Sabra um outside the area yet they're not committed you sometimes wave a big carrot and you know I thought Sabre was very talented she had experience in government um Doug Thornley had experience in government and so I feel like the rec that's why I said the recruiting process is really important and I think they both did a great job I know you feel differently about them and you'd like to continue to um you know say things about their reputation and I don't think that that's fair was because it wasn't your pick so I want to respect your opinion but I also said at the same time you need to quit attacking others and that's the only way we're going to get something done I'm going to respect yours and you should respect everyone else's on here so um I'm going to try really hard not to say anything negative because it there really is that saying if you can't say anything nice don't say anything at all so I'm trying um but anyway not like I said not with they don't have to have Reno ties um and also sometimes you know what councilman breus when they go out there and recruit I don't know what we're going to get you don't know what we're going to get none of us know what we're going to get on paper I have no idea none of us so this fact that it's Juiced and inside and all that matter of fact with Chief SoDo you're the one that made the motion for him and he was very good so and he didn't have City manager experience and that was your choosing and we you know he was great so I I don't believe that you have to be a city manager I think it's got to be in your heart you got to love this community um and I've seen bad city managers too that went to icma and did all that um anyway so I just don't believe that anyway we're going to move on sorry yeah go go ahead councilwoman do and I think we're on Madam clerk we're on round two yeah yeah okay okay go ahead so I just wanted to say the first things I said were where the pinch points were that I saw but I also wanted to respond to this this concept of the recruiters being surprised the recruiters gave us a basket of five we chose from them I mean if if they didn't feel confident of these five then they shouldn't have given us these five um so the second thing is that we have a wish list of competing qualifications we might want a person with city manager experience but we might also want um you know lean into a local person we we might want a person that has 5 years experience but we might see somebody with three years experience and say you know what they're equal to the people of five and so I just I I want to pose it in a different way that there a lot of the wish list of competing qualifications it's not that they were put in rank order it's that we we'd like to see all of them no one's perfect they're not going to meet every quity ification so I think it's perfectly legitimate that that kind of outcome happens I mean it's not like we went off their list and said no we're going to take this person over here in the corner uh number two I just want to say that Nevada is a kind of unique State and we're not California and we have a more of a Libertarian attitude regardless of political affiliation our general attitude is that people come here they like the freedom uh all the vices present um they like the low taxes they love the beautiful environment the 300 days of sunshine these are unique attributes and why so many people are coming here and so a lot of people are drawn to it and then they look back and compare it to where they came from uh in comparison to the Midwest or comparison to the East Coast or comparison to California and what they've found I think in recruiting a lot of jobs is that if you have some knowledge of Nevada it does help because you know what you're getting into and we know that Northern Nevada is different than Southern Nevada very different kind of uh Pace um traffic condition housing options very different and so I do think this is a part that I want to get to that you have to have somebody that wants to come here I mean I've been recruited I was at a job back East to be recruited and has nothing to do with city manager or city council and they said this is very good that you've worked in Nevada before I went to school here even though you're not currently living here because you know what you're getting into you know how the people think and what what the expectation is and that we're going to get deep snow and we're also going to get heat climate does affect a lot of people's perception of a place as well as traffic so to some places we have no traffic and to other people that might come from a different area we have a ton of traffic so they and they will look at schools as well right they want to know are they coming into a good school situation so I think the more the recruiters can focus on the fit and really getting an understanding of our culture will help the ultimate decision okay okay thank you madam mayor I'm prepared to move okay go right ahead okay I move to authorize the human resource department to identify and select an executive recruitment firm execute a contract with the firm not to exceed $75,000 and manage the firm to bring forth the qualified inv vetted candidate po the council's consideration and selecting a city manager no later than 6 months after the vacancy occurs in the position as per article 3 section 3.02 of the Reno City Charter all right Motion in a second all those in favor say I I all those opposed motion carries okay Madame clerk next thank you Madame mayor we're opening item E1 which is an uh ordinance introduction to be read by the city attorney's office great sending it your way Carl thank you Madame mayor ordinance introduction ordinance number 7269 an ordinance amending Ren Municipal Code title 6 entitled vehicles and traffic chapter 6.04 entitled definition chapter 6.06 entitled rules of the road and chapter 6.30 entitled parking violation civil infractions together with matters which pertain to or are necessarily connected therewith move to refer I have a motion I have a second all those in favor say I I all those opposed motion carries okay item G1 which is an appointment to the financial Advisory Board all right Madame clerk any public comments we have no public comment on this item okay I would like to appoint Mr Rick roserio may I get a motion second I that was a motion I have a second all those in favor say I I all those opposed motion carries unanimously all right item G2 and this would be an appointment for the Reno access advisory committee uhhuh councilwoman Taylor all right can we come back to that or well let's put that on the next meeting um Madam clerk thank you Madame mayor we're moving on to item G3 W one appointment and I have a common on this I guess uh that would be councilman breus and before you go councilman breus I have a comment if you will go ahead um I just wanted to point out that I recently appointed Stan dowy to the W 2 NAB and I just wanted to explain we're in a transition period of wards uh as I recall Stan does not currently live in W two but close to it and will be in W two uh as of November and um and all my appointments I've been looking at that kind of issue where we're transitioning including like the Planning Commission I appointed a person that does not currently live in W two but will live in W two when the new Wards take effect in a few months so I just wanted to let you know that I've recently appointed Stan I don't think she could be on two nabs I don't I mean I don't think so but to how I've been kind of approaching this appointment process so okay thanks all right thanks so much G3 uh uh yeah yeah Council mrea yeah thanks I'd like to appoint James Milligan and just uh reference to the clerk G2 which Miss Taylor um you know I guess we'll wait another time that James Milligan I wonder if that's the same as Jim Jim Milligan and someone just circle back to him if he I understand M leaon has spoken with him and he is still interested in serving in the the ward one NAB but I don't know if he wants to serve on two boards so maybe someone could talk to him but anyway that's who I make the motion so that's a motion I have a second all those in favor say I I all opposed motion carries item G4 yeah I would like to appoint Hal Taylor and I'm just going to note he lives in war two and he will live in war two in the future when we realign the Ws as well I have a motion in a second all those in favor say I I all those opposed motion carries unanimously item G5 move to appoint council member and vice mayor Naomi der all right I have a motion do I have a second I'll second all those in favor say I I all those opposed motion carries unanimously all right item G6 you know I um I have no idea on this one how about uh councilman Martinez well I'm already on it I thought are you on it she's the T oh you're the T you're okay but I think I think this person has to be a Sparks person nope thank you so city clerk Huntsman for the record um we alternate with the city of Sparks last year it was the appointment of Donald Abbott from the city of Sparks and the board um has made the recommendation for council member Martinez to serve in this capacity okay so I'm already on yeah okay so uh give me a motion Council appoint Mr Martinez second I have a motion in a second all those in favor say I hi all those opposed motion carries okay uh item H1 is a special Proclamation um in honor of of discinesia awareness week I'm going to have councilman uh ree read the proclamation thanks okay thank you so much and I apologize that I was not able to read this earlier I just slip my mind um but this is from the office of the mayor in the City of Reno Nevada and I will read the warehous Clauses many people living with serious mental illness or gastrointenstinal disorders may be treated with medications that work as dopamine receptor blocking agents including antipsychotics and anti animedics anti Medics and whereas while ongoing treatment with these medications can be necessary prolonged use is associated with tardive dis discinesia TD an involuntary movement disorder that is characterized by uncontrollable abnormal and repetitive movements of the face torso Limbs and fingers or toes and whereas even mild symptoms of TD can impact people physically socially and emotionally and is estimated that TD affects approximately 600,000 people in the United States and approximately 65% of the people with TD have not been diagnosed making it important to raise awareness and whereas clinical research has led to approval of treatments for adults with TD by the US Food and Drug Administration and recognition of treatment of TD can make positive impacts in the lives of many people experienc psychotic and mood disorders and whereas anyone experiencing un controllable abnormal and repetitive movements should be empowered to consult with their healthcare provider regarding their symptoms to determine appropriate treatment now therefore I Devon ree on behalf of Hillary shivy mayor of the City of Reno Nevada to hereby declare May 5th through the 11th 2024 as tardive discinesia Awareness Week in and for the City of Reno all right thank you so much A lot of people are not aware of what this is but also this can happen from medications especially if you um are taking some for mental health and those types of disorders so we have to learn more if we really want to um start talking about this you know the stigma that it has with it and understand why sometimes people you might think act a little differently there are certain reasons so I appreciate you putting that on there and anytime that we can educate more on the mental health side um thank you councilman Reese so uh there are people that I appreciate it too so thank you all right moving along Madam clerk Madame mayor if I could interject I apologize for the body on item G2 this is the appointment to the access advisory committee as we mentioned council member Taylor is unable to make that right now there is one application listed and the board did review this with a recommendation of Jim Mulligan they are concerned with Quorum at their next meeting so there is a request if Council would be willing to make that appointment today um how many seats are open over there do you know there are I think of two seats open and there's one application in front of you today and um I would like to talk to you about that other seat uh because I was the I was the liaison over there and C Kathleen and I talked about maybe changing so we'll we'll talk about that but I think uh to your point let's make um a motion for Mr Mulligan second okay I have a motion in a second all those in favor say I I all those opposed motion carries unanimously all right Madam Clerk at you thank you Madame mayor we're on item J1 and we do have Mr Damen Cole here for public comment Damian come on up test test good evening um sorry for sitting down I'm having some severe back pain and I'm sorry for the way I'm dressed I am in the middle of doing laundry okay um I have to appease to the council about the whole situation regarding the oh I have a a thing there thanks um there we go um I have a feeling and I wasn't there during the tour uh that you were given at the public safety center in regards to the public access easement that I was requesting um I want I I need to focus your attention on this illustration here if I can get it working in my three minutes that I have very difficult to see unfortunately but I will try my best this top picture here was the original configuration of the parking lot which was over 130 spaces one of the reasons why I was denied the request for Ada accessible ramp leading to the park behind along the river was because of uh parking space would be removed by 40% I need to point out that whoever designed the new parking lot has reduced the parking space down over 63% that was has nothing to do with my request they brought it down to 48 spaces from 130 over 130 so when they say that putting a path along that yellow line there um Madame mayor yeah I don't know where we're at okay this is the the public safety center the new police headquarters that's being built so this is yeah I was very confused sorry yeah this is the Reno Gazette Journal parking lot as it was prior to any development this is how it currently looks the parking spaces originally I went ahead and showed here in those white spaces was over 130 I counted them myself not counting the handicapped and staff parking right there my path would have only removed 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 about eight or nine spaces which would be less than 5% reduction so for Public Works to say that my idea of having Ada accessible ramp to the park reducing parking by 40% because they reduced it down by 63% first is ludicrous I feel that when you were given the Tour by Public Works you were misled whether intentionally or not to believe that my request was unfeasible on the west side of the bridge and where they are proposing now which we don't even have a dollar amount or a feasibility report we would be talking about creating a retaining wall we'd be talking about chopping down trees in a preserve for nature a green belt we' be talking about messing with an existing structure built in 1989 the bridge we'd be talking about bringing a bike ramp up to where it would stop at a 90° angle on a 5 foot wide sidewalk if you were to it's completely unfeasible um hold on Daman one second councilwoman dur go ahead yeah I had an opportunity to H with public works and I heard their objections and we looked at the west side of this bridge and despite what you've just said um I don't think that that is accurate depiction of how they laid it out to me now you did say something that is probably true which is that it would not be a continuous ramp it probably would take a turn so that it could um gracefully enter the bike path but one of the beautiful things about this uh new proposal that they that we discussed was that the height of the river path is higher on the left side or west side and there it would be less costly to construct than the one on the right side they told me they would not have to take down any trees to build it maybe one tree at worst case so I I thought it was a very much more elegant design cheaper um more accessible and you enter the river path within what 50 ft of each other so I'm just telling you what I saw and I did spend a good hour and a half out there so I just wanted to share I'm not aware of any feasibility reports that have come up with cost estimates I didn't say a cost estimate exactly so we can't say whether it would be well they said it would be generally cheaper because less concrete would have to be used that's all I realize that I'm over time and and this isn't really the the forum for a discussion on this but I do feel that uh I mean unfortunately I had to go to the United States uh Department of Transportation civil rights office to uh form a file uh file a formal complaint about this they are currently looking into the matter very sorry about that but unfortunately I feel that uh I mean it's doing the public a disservice very sorry about that Madame mayor this is um when we were discussing the river plan this is exactly uh what I asked about is I didn't know that you were in the audience at all I I was just mindful I was watching oh oh okay so you weren't in the audience but I was very mindful of the fact that this seemed like an important project to do and we were just informed by our staff that they have a whole river action plan that's separate from the current plan they're working on so if if I may very quickly again just comment I'm a little bit worried about the $3 million that's being spent on designing a river path that was already designed and planned and approved upon in 1976 by the city council of this city city of Sparks and the regional Planning Commission along with public works and the Parks and Recreation Department all green lighting a 20-year plan to create this and the bike path that has been constructed and never got finished because there's still several gaps just kind of fizzled out over the last 50 years and I feel like there's a lack of historicity in thank you Mr Cole thank you thank you our final public commenter today is um Bill shrimp via Zoom Dam good evening thank you Damen all right um who's Bill shrimp oh good hi Bill hi good evening Madame may you guys are getting out there early I'll make it quick I know 6:30 shouldn't be early so um I just wanted to say that uh something came up today while you're discussing the B items it's near and dear to my heart and U I want to thank council member ree for bringing it up and that is if this body is talking about somebody uh somebody's way of life or they live or where they work they should be in the room um it's pretty important that they have an opportunity and so I'm going to bring something up for I think the fourth time and I'm going to say it a little differently so Madame mayor um you're very influential in this city um the leader of the Free World comes to Reno you get to have a minute of FaceTime that's really a wonderful thing however um Hillary shibi is in some ways a second class citizen because if Hillary shei business neighbors apply for a conditional use permit because Hillary shiv is a renter she doesn't get a cheap postcard with a cheap stamp on it to say hey your neighbor's doing something the point is is that a big portion of our community doesn't get noticed about permits and changes in the neighborhood that affect where they live and their where they work because Reno won't pay for a postcard with a cheap stamp on it to say hey your neighbors are doing something please pay attention come give your two cents we we uh notice Property Owners but we do not notice people who were renters so back to the term landlord and where that came from that's not a really positive term and the way people used to vote uh and be able to use to vote you had to be a rich property owner um and maybe by accident Reno policies are still there so I hope that we can make some progress on this um I hope we move this needle forward a little bit um but anyway thank you for the meeting thank you for doing the job today everybody really appreciate it and have a nice evening thanks Bill really appreciate you miss seeing you in Chambers I wish I could have been there next time okay have a good evening all right you too bye Madam mayor for the record we also received 32 letters of Correspondence which were either General in nature or received after 4 P.M yesterday May 7th these have been distributed to the Reno city council and there were 36 I'm sorry 32 um letters of concern and with that we have no additional public comment and we are looking for a motion to adjourn wait I did we go did we get to council comments oh I'm sorry I missed that if we could go back I guess I missed it because we did a proclamation I'm not accustomed to doing a proclamation so if we could move back back to H1 number one is um we did we did I think it was one of the B's that I pulled it might have been B24 Mr Woodley mentioned um that there's a criminal case with someone like one the RightWay or the lak mill and I've been asking an attorney client meetings to see the ongoing docket of all litigation and if that's not maybe maybe I misunderstood maybe that's something in Municipal Court but if there's a a lawsuit with the city as a party with one of those license holders even if it's criminal I'd like to see it I mean often proceedings have our names on the on the filings on the case you know at all that's us and I haven't seen a listing of the docket in months if not over a year so I'm going to make that request right now doesn't require any response by Mr Hall it's just if a staff member references a litigation that the city's involved in I've never even heard of it that's of concern to me secondly is I did read in some local media this week that the university is considering an 8 cent sales tax that would go to UNR and TMCC um as far as I know there's not precedent for sales tax to fund higher education I'm a fan of higher education as a matter of fact I'll disclose I'm a uh soon to be um no longer but I am currently a part-time faculty at TMCC but um that's a concern to local governments because sales tax is usually for local government purposes so I would ask whoever is um populating the agenda these days that sooner than later we start looking at I guess legislation um and start with an understanding of what sales taxes are out there in Washo County when the school district went for their sales tax their 8 cent sales tax like I said it's local government for save our schools initiative that really took us to a high sales tax and we all know sales tax is regre regressive and hits Working Families very hard and to hear the university talking about wanting to uh dedicate more sales tax in Washo County to higher ed is pause for concern for me I'm not sure it's a place that anyone should go to but if it is a place that's gone to it should be in the purview of local government so I'd just like I think that seeing that the university is floating that idea means that the local governments should jump start there um thinking about the 25 uh session and I'd like to ask a um a memo on understanding what the waser County sales tax Reno sales tax is right now and how it's diced and sliced because a large part of it is we all know pays off our debt that we inherited to the um railroad track and I'm just wondering if that's coming due and that's why they're floating that idea thank you okay thanks so much all right move to a Jour I have a motion in a second I'll those in favor say I I all those opposed motion carries thanks everyone