THE 14th MEETING OF THE 25th COUNCIL WILL COME TO ORDER. ALL COUNCILORS ARE PRESENT. WE'LL START WITH A MOMENT OF SILENCE AND PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE IN ENGLISH BY COUNCILOR JONES AND IS SPANISH BY COUNCILOR PEÑA. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU, COUNCILORS. CIVIC PLAZA PARKING PASSES ARE PROVIDED FOR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, YOU CAN ATTAIN THEM FROM COUNCIL SERVICE STAFF AT THE TABLE NEAR THE ENTRANCE. MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC CITY STAFF AND MEAD JUTHE ABILITY TO VIEW THIS MEETING ON PERSON AND LIVE STREAMS THROUGH FOUR DIFFERENT PLATFORM. GOVTV, COMCAST 16, THE GOVTV WEBSITE, YOU TUBE, ZOOM. THEY CAN BE ACCESSED BY MOST SMART PHONES, TABLET AND COMPUTERS. THIS MEETING IS CLOSED CAPTIONED AND YOU MAY ENABLE IT ON YOUR TELEVISION OR DEVICE AT THIS TIME. THE VIDEO RECORDING OF THIS AND ALL PAST COUNCIL MEETINGS WILL REMAIN AVAILABLE FOR FEWING AT ANY TIME ON THE CITY COUNCIL WEBSITE. COUNCIL STAFF IS AVAILABLE VIA TELEPHONE IF MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC NEED HELP FINDING VIDEOS ONLINE. CALL 768-3100 DURING BUSINESS WE'RE ALL RESPECTFUL OF ONE ANOTHER. WE WILL START WITH PROCLAMATIONS AND PRESENTATIONS. WE HAVE A PRESENTATION REGARDING VISION ZERO. VALRY FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF MUNICIPAL DEVELOPMENT TO PRESENT. >> MR. COUNCIL PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. I WORK AT THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE AND THE DEPARTMENT OF MOOUP DEVELOPMENT. AND I MANAGE THE VISION ZERO EFFORT. I'M HIGHER -- I'M HERE TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON THE VISION ZERO PROGRAM. NEXT PLEASE. VISION ZERO IS A REFRAMING. IT'S ALL ABOUT A DATA DRIVEN AND ELIMINATING TRAFFIC FATALITIES AND SERIOUS INJURIES. OVER 40,000 PEOPLE DIE IN TRAFFIC COLLISIONS. THERE'S AN ASSUMPTION THAT THE DEATH AND INJURY IS INEVITABLE. IT'S NOT. THEY'RE NOT TRAFFIC INCIDENTS, THEY'RE TRAFFIC CRASHES WHICH MEAN THEY'RE PREVENTIBLE. WHEN A PERSON MAKES MISTAKE WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF PUBLIC ROAD WAY, IT SHOULD NOT RESULT IN FATALITY OR SERIOUS INJURY. THIS MAY SEEM LIKE A LOFTY GOAL. OSLO NORWAY REACHED ZERO BIKE FATALITIES. IN NEW JERSEY, THEY REACHED ZERO TRAFFIC DEATHS IN 201. -- 2019. THE BEST EFFORT IS TO DEVELOP A HIGH INJURY NETWORK. THIS MAP SHOWS ALBUQUERQUE -- ALONG WITH THE VULNERABILITY INDEX. WHAT THIS MAP DOES IS TAKES FIVE YEARS OF CRASH DATA SO WE CAN IDENTIFY REOCCURRING FATAL AND INJURY CRASH LOCATIONS TO PRIORITIZE THE WORST FIRST FOR TRAFFIC SAFETY IMPROVEMENT. ON THE SIGN, RED MEANS MORE IF A FATAL CRASHES. THE VULNERABILITY INDEX IS SHADING ON THE MAP. DARKER MEANS HIGHER VULNERABILITY. THERE ARE SEVERAL CURRENT PROJECTS. WHETHER INCORPORATING SAFETY MEASURES. I'M GOING TO HIGHLIGHT A FEW EFFORTS. WE HAVE TRAFFIC SAFETY ON LOUISIANA BOULEVARD THAT'S INCORPORATING SAFETY COUNTER MEASURES. ALSO ON SAN MATEO AND MONTGOMERY NORTH OF HERE WAS REPAVED AND RESTRIPED TO NARROW DRIVING LINES WHICH DECREASE VEHICLE SPEED. WE INCLUDED BUFFER STRIPING WHICH PROVIDES EXTRA SPACE AND BUFFER BETWEEN FAST MOVING MOTOR VEHICLE TRAFFIC AND PEOPLE WALKING ON THE SIDE WALK. THERE IS NO ONE SOLUTION. IT'S IMPORTANT TO GO AT THE CHALLENGES WITH A COMPREHENSIVE APPROACH. THIS ACTION PLAN WAS RELEASED IN MAY OF 2021 AND IDENTIFIES KEY THEMES. WE KNOW THAT CHANGING THE WAY OUR ROADS ARE DESIGNED CAN ENCOURAGE AND INFLUENCE BETTER DRIVER BEHAVIOR AND FOR EVERYBODY USING ROAD WAYS. CITY COUNCIL PASSED THE COMPLETE STREETS ORDINANCE IN 2019. THIS PLAYS A BIG ROLE IN VISION ZERO EFFORTS. EACH YEAR WHEN THE CITY REPAVES ROAD WAY IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO NOT PUT IT THE WAY IT WAS BUT MAKE IT BETTER FOR EVERYBODY USING THE STREETS. IF THERE'S ENOUGH SPACE, THE PROCESS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO ADD ADDITIONAL BIKE FACILITIES. THIS YEAR WE IMPLEMENTED DAYLIGHTING AT 79 INTERSECTION. WHAT THIS MEANS IS REMOVING PARKING AT CROSSWALKS SO EVERYONE CAN SEE EACH OTHER WHEN CROSSING THE STREET. IT HELPS DRIVERS SEE ON COMING TRAFFIC BUT HELPS KIDS ACROSS THE STREET AND BE SEEN. IF THE CAR IS PARKED AT THE CROSSWALK THEY MAY NOT BE SEEN WHEN CROSSING THE STREET. SAFE SWEDES ARE CORE PRINCIPLE TO THE VISION ZERO APPROACH. WE KNOW FROM DATA THAT HUMANS ARE LESS LIKELY TO SURVIVE HIGH SPEED CRASHES. HIGH SPEED INCREASES THE SEVERITY OF CRASHES NOT ONLY FOR PEOPLE INSIDE AUTOMOBILE PUT FOR PEOPLE WALKING OR BIKING. FOR EXAMPLE IF A PERSON IS HIT BY A DRIVER GOING 20 MILES PER HOUR, NINE OF TEN WILL SURVIVE. IF IT'S 40 MILES PER HOUR, ONE OF TEN WILL SURVIVE. ALBUQUERQUE'S SPEED ENFORCEMENT PROGRAM KICKED OFF ON MAY 25th WITH CAMERAS, AND AS OF LAST WEEK WE HAD 20 INSTALLED AROUND THE CITY. ALBUQUERQUE HAS OVER 570 MILES OF FACILITIES AND TRAILS. THESE EVENTS ARE -- OPPORTUNITIES TO CELEBRATE, EDUCATE AND ENCOURAGE FOLKS TO TRY BIKING FOR TRANSPORTATION. WE WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY TO SUPPORT THEIR EVENTS SUCH AS ABQ CYCLE. RIGHT NOW WE'RE USING FEDERAL FUNDING TO PRIORITIZE THE 57 ACTIONS IDENTIFIED IN THE VISION ZERO ACTION PLAN. WE ALSO HAVE A PRIORITIZING TOP TEN HIGH FATAL AND INJURY NETWORK INTERSECTION AND CORRIDORS. THEY'RE ALSO IDENTIFYING SHORT AND LONGER TIME COUNTER MEASURES TO MAKE THE ROAD WAYS SAFER. I'M SURE YOU'RE AWARE, ALBUQUERQUE RANKS REALLY HIGH FOR PEDESTRIAN FATALITY. NOT A LIST I WANT TO BE ON. AND NOT A LIST YOU WANT TO BE ON. EITHER ON OR AT THE TOP OF. WE'VE DONE A LOT OF GREAT WORK BUT WE HAVE LONG WAY TO GO. UNFORTUNATELY, THERE'S NO QUICK FIX TO GETTING TO ZERO. AND LESSONS LEARNED FROM OTHER CITIES SHOW IT REQUIRES LONG-TERM INVESTMENT AND COMMITMENT. I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU, MS. ROBINSON. QUESTION FROM COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU. I WANTED TO KNOW AT THE VERDICT END -- VERDICT END OF AT THE VERY END OF YOUR PROGRAM YOU'RE STATING WE'RE RANKING REALLY HIGH, AND WHAT IS REALLY HIGH AND WHAT IS OUR RANKING IN TRAFFIC DEATHS IN THE UNITED STATES? >> A REPORT RECENTLY CAME OUT FROM SMART GROWTH AMERICA, A REPORT CALLED DANGEROUS BY DESIGN, ALBUQUERQUE WAS NUMBER TWO FOR THE HIGHEST RATE OF PEDESTRIAN FATALITY RATE. NEW MEXICO WAS NUMBER ONE. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU FOR THAT. I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION. THE QUESTION I HAVE IS ACTUALLY FOR THE ADMINISTRATION AS WELL. AND THIS ONE IS REFERENCE TO TINGLY AND CENTRAL. I WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE UPDATE IS IN REFERENCE TO THE TINGLY AND CENTRAL PLAN. IT LOOKS LIKE ALL WE HAVE IS A SIGN IN THAT LOCATION TO CALM TRAFFIC. AND I THINK WE NEED -- WE'VE BEEN WAITING FOR SOME CALMING IDEAS TO BE PUT IN PLACE THERE SINCE DECEMBER. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, I THINK MR. MONTOYA IS HERE. HE CAN GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON WHERE WE ARE WITH THE EQUIPMENT THAT'S BEEN ORDERED FOR THAT CORRIDOR AND ALSO BE ABLE TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON THE CAMERA WE'RE INSTALLING IN THAT CORRIDOR. >>COUN. BENTON: WHILE WE'RE WAITING FOR MR. MONTOYA, ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. HURMENSON? THANKS SO MUCH. WE'RE FORTUNATE TO HAVE YOU WORKING FOR US IN THE DEPARTMENT AS VISION ZERO COORDINATOR. I KNOW YOU HAVE A LONG HISTORY OF ADVOCACY IN THE AREA AND VERY UNDERSTANDING OF THE ISSUES. DIRECTOR MONTOYA. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, I'M HAPPY TO ANNOYANCE THE -- ANNOUNCE THE CAMERA WAS INSTALLED TODAY BETWEEN TINGLY AND NEW YORK. THE SPEED TRAILER IS INSTALLED AND THAT WILL BE UP UNTIL WE GET THE PERMANENT SIGNAGE. AND THOSE CAMERAS I MENTIONED HAVE BEEN ORDERED. THEY'RE ON BACK ORDERS, WE'RE LOOKING AT THE MIDDLE OF SEPTEMBER. THE CAMERA ITSELF IS ACTIVE TODAY. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: OKAY. AND THE SPEED CAMERA IS INVOLVED IN THE WHOLE CORRIDOR, CORRECT? >> IT'S INSTALLED BETWEEN NEW YORK AND TINGLY. AND IN THAT STRETCH. IT WILL CAPTURE ANYTHING COMING AROUND THE CURB GOING WESTBOUND. IT'S NOT ON BOTH SIDES OF THE STREET. JUST ON THE WEST SIDE. >> IS THERE ANY REASON IT'S NOT ON BOTH SIDES? >> OUR CONTRACT IS FOR TEN CAMERAS. IF WE DECIDE TO PUT ADDITIONAL CAMERA WE'D HAVE TO ORDER THAT. WE HAVE TWO OR FOUR MORE OND ORDER. I'M NOT SURE WHAT OUR CAPACITY WILL BE. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU. I WANTED TO MAKE NOTE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT FATALITY WE HAD THERE WAS IN DECEMBER DURING THE CHRISTMAS HOLIDAY AND IT'S GOING TO ALMOST TAKE A FULL YEAR TO GET THAT TAKEN OF. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT EXPEDITED, IF POSSIBLE. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BENTON: WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO -- I'M SORRY. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: I THINK MR. RAEL CAN HELP ME, AND MAYBE MR. MONTOYA. I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE AND SAY THANK YOU TO THE ADMINISTRATION. DESPITE ALL THE WORK THAT HAS BEEN DONE ON VISION ZERO, THERE HAVE BEEN SIGNIFICANT CHANGES. WE'VE DONE A LOT OF WORK ON LEAD AND COAL AND ZUNI AND EAST CENTRAL. A PROJECT WE STARTED WITH EXTRA LIGHTING, LANE DIETS. AND COUNCILOR GROUT HAS BEEN HELPFUL. WE'RE ENSURING WE'RE CONTINUING TO MOVE THAT FURTHER EAST AND ACCOMMODATE BETTER SAFETY THERE. MR. RAEL, I WANTED TO ASK IF YOU CAN GIVE US UPDATE ON LEAD AND COAL IMPROVEMENTS. THE SMART RED LIGHTS AND RESTING RED LIGHTS. WE KNOW THOSE HAVE BEEN APPROVED AND BEING AWAITED BY THE CITY AND TRAFFIC ENGINEERS. AND MAYBE MR. DIRECTOR YOU CAN GIVE US LATER, WE KNOW AT THAT POINT THERE WAS BACKLOG OF NEIGHBORHOOD TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PROJECTS RELATED TO SPEED AND PEDESTRIAN CONCERNS. I WONDER IF YOU CAN GIVE US AN UPDATE ON THE NUMBER OF PROJECTS PENDING. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR DAVIS, THREE QUICK UPDATES. THE CAMERAS ON LEAD AND COAL, ONE WAS DAMAGED AND ONE WAS STOLEN. WE HAVE REPLACED THOSE AND THEY'RE MOUNTED. HOPEFULLY THEY DON'T WALK AWAY OR RUN AWAY. SO THOSE ARE ACTIVE. THE AUDIT ITSELF IS IN THE PROCESS OF COMPLETION. WE SHOULD BE READY WITH SOME REPORT BACK TO THE COUNCIL AS TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD IN ABOUT TWO WEEKS. THAT'S ON OUR AGENDA. THE STOP AND RED PROGRAM, I BELIEVE ALL THE EQUIPMENT IS ORDERED. I DON'T HAVE HAVE AN INSTALL DATE, BUT WE'RE LOOKING AT EARLY FALL TO BE ACTIVE. BOTH STRETCHES OF EAST AND WESTBOUND. AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD TRAFFIC PLAN, WE'RE IN THE PROCESS AND I KNOW JUST LIKE EVERY OTHER DEPARTMENT WE'RE EXPERIENCING THE LACK OF INDIVIDUALS APPLYING FOR POSITIONS WITHIN YOUR DEPARTMENT. WE HAD FOUR VACANCIES FOR MTP. WE ARE NOW IN THE PROCESS OF HIRING TWO E14. THOSE INDIVIDUALS WILL BE HOUSED AT THE RTMC LOCATION AT COPPER AND WYOMING. WE DO NOT HAVE A BACKLOG. WE HAVE ACTUALLY TWO CONTRACTS WITH TWO ENGINEERING FIRMS CONDUCTING THOSE STUDIES. ANY TIME A COUNCILOR OR INDIVIDUAL APPLIES FOR THAT, THEY'RE BEING REVIEWED BY THE ENGINEERING PROGRAM. WE WOULD PERF TO DO THOSE IN-HOUSE. THEY'RE MUCH CHEAPER. WITH THESE TWO INDIVIDUALS HIRED WE HOPE TO SPEED THAT UP. I CAN ASSURE YOU WE DON'T HAVE A BACKLOG. ONE OF THE PROBLEMS WE HAVE, WHEN THE APPLICATION COMES TO THE DEPARTMENT IT'S NOT COMPLETELY FILLED OUT PROPERLY. WE INCREASED THAT FROM 50% TO 66% OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS. THAT IS IN THE PROCESS AS WELL. I'M HOPING BY THE END OF THIS YEAR, ANY OF THE BACKLOG WE'VE HAD IN FRONT OF US WILL BE OVER WITH. >> MR. PRESIDENT, IF I MIGHT ADD FOR THE COUNCIL'S INFORMATION, IT'S RELATED TO YOUR QUESTION, AND COUNCILOR SANCHEZ'S CONCERN, WHAT WE ARE EXPERIENCING IS SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUES WITH EQUIPMENT. I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR. WE ORDERED THE EQUIPMENT FOR EXAMPLE ON CENTRAL TO COUNCILOR SANCHEZ'S POINT. AND IT'S STILL NOT DELIVERED. COUNCILOR BENTON, YOU HAVE SOME LIGHTS THAT YOU ORDERED FOR WALTER AND LEAD. IF YOU'LL RECALL, WE'RE WAITING FOR THAT EQUIPMENT. COUNCILOR DAVIS, OUR NOB HILL TOOK NINE OR TEN MONTHS LONGER BECAUSE THERE IS A BACKLOG IN ALL OF THIS EQUIPMENT. JUST WANT TO LET ALL OF YOU KNOW IT'S NOT A QUESTION OF NOT WANTING TO GET IT DONE. IT'S A QUESTION OF NOT HAVING THE EQUIPMENT ON HAND TO PUT IT IN AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. THE ACCOMMODATION WE MADE ON CENTRAL WAS PUT THE TRAILER SO WE CAN GET NOTIFICATION OUT THERE. I WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT DMD IS WORKING HARD TO GET THAT EQUIPMENT, BUT IT'S ON BACK ORDER FOR MANY PROJECTS. >>COUN. DAVIS: MR. PRESIDENT, I WANTED TO ACKNOWLEDGE, I WASN'T ASKING TO BE CRITICAL. WE TALKED ABOUT REST IN RED, I KNOW WHERE THAT PROJECT IS. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE COMMUNITY TO KNOW WE'RE ON TOP OF THE THINGS. WE'RE DEALING WITH THE SAME THING EVERYBODY ELSE IS. IT SAYS A LOT THAT BOTH OF YOU KNOW THE PRIORITY AREAS ON THE FLY WITHOUT ANY PROMPTING. AND WE KNOW THEY'RE GETTING ATTENTION. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BENTON: COUNCILOR LEWIS. >>COUN. LEWIS: MR. PRESIDENT, WHILE YOU'RE HERE, WOULD YOU JUST GIVE A QUICK UPDATE ON THE WEST SIDE BOULEVARD. I KNOW THERE'S SOME DELAY BECAUSE OF THE INTEL PIPELINE. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR DAVIS, THAT PROJECT WE WERE SCHEDULED TO HAVE IT AUGUST 31st. WE'RE TWO TO TWO AND A HALF WEEKS BEHIND BECAUSE OF RAINS AND WE HAD A FLOOD IN THE BASEMENT. WE'RE ON TARGET FOR THE MIDDLE OF SEPTEMBER. AND I KNOW THAT'S CREATED A BACKLOG OF -- BACK UP FOR A LOT OF TRAFFIC COMING DOWN GOLF COURSE AND WEST SIDE. WE HOPE TO HAVE THAT ALLEVIATED. WE'RE WORKING EXTENDED HOURS. THEY WORKED ON SATURDAY. SEPTEMBER 15th IS YOUR NEW TARGET. >>COUN. LEWIS: THERE'S SIX OR SEVEN PROJECTS THAT ARE CLOSING DOWN LANES. IT CAUSES A BIG STRAIN ON COMMUTING. IT'S HAPPENING AT THE SAME TIME. IT'S GREAT, WE'RE GETTING THINGS DONE. IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND A LIST OF THE PROJECTS AND TIMELINES FROM YOUR OFFICE WHEN YOU GATE -- GET A CHANCE. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR LEWIS, YOU'RE CORRECT. WE'VE HAD THAT DISCUSSION WITHIN OUR PERMITTING SECTION. WE HAD AN ABUNDANCE OF APPLICATIONS IN THE LAST THREE WEEKS. A LOT ARE FROM THE PRIVATE SECTOR. THEY'RE BUILDING IN AND OUT IN THAT LOCATION. ALL OF YOUR CLOSURES ARE POSTED ON THE DAILY BASIS AND WE HAVE ABOUT 87 PERMITS ON ANY GIVEN DAY. WE CAN GET THAT INFORMATION TO YOU. >>COUN. BENTON: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR DIRECTOR MONTOYA. WE DO HAVE QUITE A FEW PEOPLE SIGNED FROM PUBLIC COMMENT. I DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO BRING HIM UP LATER DURING Q&A. THANK YOU, SIR. WE'LL MOVE TO PUBLIC COMMENT. WE HAVE A LARGE LIST OF PEOPLE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC CAN PROVIDE LIVE COMMENT TO THE COUNCIL IN PERSON AND VIRTUALLY. IF THEY SIGNED UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT PER THE INSTRUCTIONS PUBLISHED ON THE AGENDA AND ON WEBSITE ON FRIDAY. HERE ARE THE PUBLIC COMMENT GROUND RULES. EACH PARTICIPANT UP TO ONE AND HALF MINUTES TO PRESENT. COMMENTS ARE TO BE ADDRESSED TO THE COUNCILORS ONLY THROUGH THE COUNCIL PRESIDENT. ANY DISRUPTIVE CONDUCT WILL RESULT IN REMOVAL FROM THE MEETING. AGAIN, THERE'S ONE AND A HALF MINUTE TIME LIMIT. THE LIGHT WILL BE GREEN FOR THE FIRST MINUTE AND LIGHT WILL TURN YELLOW INDICATING YOU HAVE 30 SECONDS TO WRAP UP COMMENTS. AT ONE AND A HALF MINUTES THE LIGHT WILL TURN RED AND BELL WILL RING TO INDICATE YOUR TIME IS UP. MR. MOYA CALL THE FIRST SPEAKER. >> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. FIRST SPEAKER IS LORI, FOLLOWED BY TONY. >> I'VE NEVER DONE THIS BEFORE. I'M ACTUALLY SIGNED UP TO SPEAK LATER. I WANT TO SAY THAT I THINK THAT THE CONSIDERATION OF NOT HAVING SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES IS MISGUIDED. I THINK THE ORIGINAL IDEA THAT COUNCILOR BASSAN WAS FANTASTIC. AND VERY LOGICAL AS A TOOL IN THE TOOLBOX FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE UNHOUSED. THERE DEFINITELY NEEDS TO BE RULES ABOUT IT. I THINK IT'S DEFINITELY A GOOD IDEA TO TRY IT. THEY'RE GOING TO TRY TO IN SALT LAKE CITY, THEY'RE GOING TO TRY IT IN DENVER. AND THAT WAS REALLY GOOD PRESENTATION THAT DENVER PUT IN IN THE CHAMBERS. THAT'S ALL. >> TONY FOLLOWED BY BECKS. >> MY NAME IS TONY, I'VE BEEN A PART OF AN EFFORT TO ASK THE CITY TO PAUSE ON IT'S DECISION TO CLOSE CORONADO PARK. IN ONE WEEK WE'VE GOTTEN 320 SIGNATURES. MANY OF THE SIGNATURES COME FROM PEOPLE IN THE PARK. WE BELIEVE IT'S UNFAIR TO CLOSE CORONADO PARK WITHOUT CREATING ALTERNATIVES FOR PEOPLE LIVING THERE. THE CITY SHOULD STICK TO ITS PLAN TO CREATE SANCTIONED ENCAMPMENT. THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN LIVING IN THE PARK HAVE BEEN CRIMINALIZED. IN ADDITION THE CLOSING OF THE PARK WILL CREATE HARDPSHIP FOR. THEY'RE COUNTER TO THE ULTIMATE GOAL TO DEVELOP A CONTINUUM OF CARE TO END HOMELESSNESS. SOME OF THE SOLUTIONS OFFERED IN THE MEDIA AND ELSEWHERE WHERE MORE COMPLICATED THAN APPEAR. THE AVERAGE LENGTH OF TIME FOR PEOPLE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS TO BECOME HOUSED IS 713 DAYS. THIS NUMBER ONLY REFLECTS THOSE WHO EVENTUALLY BECOME HOUSED. MANY BARRIERS EXIST TO PEOPLE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS HAVING ACCESS TO PUBLIC SPACES LIKE THIS SO THEIR VOICES CAN BE HEARD. WE CALL ON THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE IN COLLABORATION WITH NON-PROFIT REPRESENTATIVES CONVENE SPACES THAT CENTER VOICES OF PEOPLE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS TO COME UP WITH A STRATEGY TO END HOMELESSNESS TOGETHER. CLOSING CORONADO PARK WITHOUT OFFERING ALTERNATIVES IS UNFAIR. >> BECKS, FOLLOWED BY ANGELINA. >> POINT OF CLARIFICATION. ONLINE, IT WAS STATED THAT PUBLIC COMMENTS WOULD BE TWO MINUTES. I WAS WONDERING IF THAT COULD BE HONORED FOR PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE. I'M AWARE THAT SOMETIMES THE COMMENTS ARE EXACTLY THAT. >>COUN. BENTON: DUE TO THE LARGE NUMBER OF PEOPLE SIGNED UP TONIGHT, I MADE THE DECISION AS PRESIDENT. >> THAT MAKES SENSE. I HOPE THAT DOESN'T CUT INTO MY TIME. I'M AN ORGANIZER WITH THE PEOPLE'S HOUSING PROJECT AND LIFELONG RESIDENT OF NEW MEXICO. I'VE ALWAYS LIVED IN THE CENTRAL PART OF TOWN BUT IN 2020 I HAD TO MOVE. AND THAT WAS WHEN RENT STARTED SKYROCKETING AND I WAS PRICED OUT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD I LIVED IN FOR OVER A DECADE. AFTER TEN YEARS I CAN NO LONGER AFFORD TO LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD I WORK IN AND WAGES ARE NOT RISING AT A RATE FOR US TO AFFORD THE 31% AVERAGE RENTAL INCREASE ACROSS ALBUQUERQUE. THIS AND WORSE IS HAP TOONING RESIDENTS ALL CROSS THE CITY. THOSE ON FIXED AND LOW INCOMES ARE BEING EFFECTED. AND TODAY, SENIOR CITIZEN CALLED ME TO SAY SHE HAS LIVED IN AN APARTMENT FOR SEVERAL YEARS AND IT WAS AFFORDABLE. NOW SHE IS FACING $500 RENT INCREASE AND IS FORCED TO LEAVE HER APARTMENT IN TWO MONTHS. SHE'S SCARED FOR HER NEIGHBORS IF THEY GET PRICED OUT WILL HAVE NOWHERE TO GO. THE HOUSING CRISIS IS DIRE. LAST CITY COUNCIL MEETING A LEGAL ADVISOR WAS BROUGHT IN TO SAY THERE'S NOTHING CITY OFFICIALS CAN DO ABOUT RENT CONTROL. WE KNOW THAT'S A LIE. ALBUQUERQUE IS THE LARGEST CITY IN NEW MEXICO AND RISING RENT SHOULD BE A CONCERN FOR ELECTED OFFICIALS AND YOU SHOULD DO EVERYTHING YOU CAN TO OVERTURN THE PROHIBITION ON RENT CONTROL. WE ASK CITY COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR TAKE IMMEDIATE ACTION TO WORK TO END THE PROHIBITION ON RENT CONTROL AND GET IT UNDER CONTROL SO WE CAN LIVE IN ALBUQUERQUE. WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS AND JOIN US SEPTEMBER 19 TO RALLY OUTSIDE OF CIVIC PLAZA TO END THE PROHIBITION ON RENT CONTROL. >> ANGLEANA, FOLLOWED BY AMY. >> HI, I AM ALSO AN ORGANIZER WITH THE PEOPLE'S HOUSING PROJECT. I RECENTLY WENT TO AN APARTMENT COMPLEX WHERE IT WAS T&C MANAGEMENT. THERE WERE AC UNITS RIPPED OUT AND PEOPLE ARE HAVING THEIR RENT RAISED OVER A THOUSAND DOLLARS. THIS IS A REGULAR OCCURRENCE IN THE INTERNATIONAL DISTRICT WHERE MANY OF MY NEIGHBORS ARE LOW INCOME, FIXED INCOME, DISABLED, VETERANS BENEFITS. SOME OF THE MOST VULNERABLE PEOPLE. AND THERE ARE AT THE MERCY OF SLUMLORDS. A LOT OF THEM HAVE THEM ON MONTH TO MONTH AND RAISE THEIR RENT AT THE DISCRETION WITH PEOPLE WITH LOW INCOME. HAVE THEM IN HORRIBLE AND SLUM CONDITIONS. LAST TIME THERE'S RESOURCE FOR THIS TO GET WATER AND RENTAL ASSISTANCE. HOW LONG DOES IT GET TO GET RENTAL ASSISTANCE IS THE LANDLORD GOING TO ACCEPT THAT. PEOPLE DON'T KNOW ABOUT THESE RESOURCES, THERE'S NO OUTREACH, THERE'S NO WAY FOR PEOPLE TO ACCESS THEM AND KNOW ABOUT THEM. IT'S REALLY DISGUSTING AND CRIMINAL THAT SO MANY OF NEIGHBORS WHO ARE DISABLED OR ON SOCIAL SECURITY, LOW INCOME LIKE I WAS SAYING, HAVE TO LIVE IN CRIMINALLY UNSACH SAFE CONDITIONS. YEAH WE KNOW THERE'S PROHIBITION ON RENT CONTROL, WE NEED YOU TO CONTROL A PUBLIC HEALTH EMERGENCY AND START BUILDING HOUSING FOR THESE PEOPLE. THANK YOU. >> AMY FOLLOWED BY ANALIE. >> ANALIE, FOLLOWED BY NICKELOUS. --NICHOLAS. >> HELLO, MY NAME AN ORGANIZER WITH HOUSING PROJECTS. LAST MEETING WE SPOKE TO YOU ABOUT THE NEED FOR IMMEDIATE FREEZE ON RENT AND EVICTIONS. AND I'M REALLY NOT SURE HOW YOU CAN HEAR ABOUT THESE SENIORS HOLDING ON TO THEIR HOUSING BY A THREAD AND CHILDREN BATHING IN GAS STATION BATHROOMS AND NOT REALLY BELIEVE THIS IS AN EMERGENCY. YOU KNOW, YOU BROUGHT IN THE LEGAL ADVISOR. WE KNEW THERE'S STATE PROHIBITION ON RENT CONTROL. THERE'S WAYS AROUND IT. AND WE NEED YOU TO TAKE THEM. I ALSO SPOKE LAST MEETING ABOUT HOW RENTS ARE BEING RAISED $400 IN A MONTH. I THOUGHT YOU MIGHT WANT TO KNOW THIS STATISTIC THAT THE U.S. GOVERNMENT ACCOUNTABILITY OFFICE SAYS THAT FOR EVERY $100 RENT INCREASE, IN THE MEDIAN PRICE OF RENT HOMELESSNESS INCREASES 9%. THEY'RE NOT INCREASING THE RENT JUST $100 THEY'RE INCREASING THE RENT SEVERAL HUNDRED DOLLARS. ALBUQUERQUE RESIDENTS ARE SUFFERING RIGHT NOW. YOU KNOW, THE THING IS THERE'S SO MANY PEOPLE ON THE BRINK OF HOMELESSNESS, AND WE KNOW FROM THE DISCUSSIONS AROUND CORONADO PARK THAT THERE'S NOT THAT MANY RESOURCES AVAILABLE. THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION LAST WEEK ABOUT HOW A FEW PEOPLE HAD GOTTEN ON THE LIST FOR HOUSING. THERE ARE 300 PEOPLE THAT CANNOT FOUND HOUSING EVEN THOUGH THEY HAVE A HOUSING VOUCHER. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU. I WANT TO ASK MR. MORROW FOR THOSE WHO HAVE NOT HEARD THE SITUATION LEGALLY WITH WHAT THE CITY IS BEING ASKED TO DO. LAST SPEAKER JUST SAID SOMETHING THERE'S WAYS TO WORK AROUND THE STATE LAW. COULD YOU ADDRESS THAT MR. MORROW? >> MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE CITY IS PROHIBITED BY STATE LAW FROM EXPLICITLY, EVEN THOUGH THE CITY IS A MUNICIPALITY FROM ENACTING RENT CONTROL, MY UNDERSTANDING IS ALSO ABOVE THE CITY HAS A CIVIL EMERGENCY POWERS ORDINANCE, WE CANNOT PREEMPT STATE LAW. STATE LAW TRUMPS WHAT CITY ORDINANCES HAVE. I'M UNAWARE OF ANY OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITY COUNCIL OR THE ADMINISTRATION TO ENACT ANY KIND OF RENT CONTROL. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. IT'S GREAT TO HEAR FROM A LEGAL PERSPECTIVE. I'M NICK, I'M AN ATTORNEY IN PRIVATE PRACTICE AND AN ORGANIZER WITH THE PEOPLE'S HOUSING PROJECT. WE'RE HERE TODAY TO ASK YOU TO DO SOMETHING TO ADDRESS THE HOUSING EMERGENCY THAT IS SWEEPING THROUGH ALBUQUERQUE. THERE'S A RICH HISTORY IN THIS COUNTRY OF BODLIES LIKE YOURSELF DOING THE RIGHT THING AND SOMETIMES THE WRONG THING BY ENACTING AN ORDINANCE, LAW THAT MAYBE CONFLICTS WITH OTHER LAW. YOU CAN DO THAT. I'M HERE TO TELL YOU YOU CAN DO IT. SINCE 2020 ALBUQUERQUE CITY COUNCIL WATCHED THE HOUSING CRISIS UNFOLD AND HASN'T DONE ANYTHING TO ADDRESS IT. RENT HAVE GONE UP 31% SINCE 2020. SINCE MARCH 2020, 21,822 FAMILIES, AND JUST SO COUNCILOR SANCHEZ KNOWS, THAT'S FROM EVICTION OUT OF PRINCETON, HAVE BEEN SUBJECT TO ECONVICTION PROCEEDINGS IN NEW MEXICO. LAST WEEK 175 FAMILIES WILL BE EVICTED. WILL BE 200 THE WEEK AFTER THAT UNTIL YOU DO SOMETHING TO STOP IT. WORKING PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM TODAY, THE ONES STANDING UP AND SITTING DOWN, WE'RE HERE TO TELL YOU THAT NOW IS THE TIME TO PUTANDY TO THIS. I JUST WANTED TO READ A STATEMENT FROM A RESIDENT OF THE COMPLEX IN THE NORTHEAST HEIGHTS. YOU BRIAN, I'M A SENIOR WITH BACK INJURIES, OUR COMPLEX HAS BEEN WITHOUT AC FOR SIX DAYS NO ATTEMPT HAS BEEN MADE TO FIX THE SITUATION. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. >>COUN. BENTON: DON SCHRADER FOLLOWED BY DANGER BAROS. >> PEOPLE SPEND ABOUT$1 BILLION, THAT'S A THOUSAND MILLION, ON BOOZE EVERY YEAR IN NEW MEXICO. ENOUGH BOOZE FILLS 72 OLYMPIC SIZED SWIMMING POOLS. SADLY, NEW MEXICO HAS THE HIGHEST RATE OF ALL 50 STATES OF PEOPLE KILLED BY BOOZE FROM DRUNK DRIVING AND CHRONIC ILLNESS. BOOZE HAS DEVASTATED THE LIVES AND KILLED MANY OF MY DEAR FRIENDS. A WORLD WIDE STUDY AND 195 NATIONS RELEASED THE RESULTS IN 2018 THERE IS NO SAFE LEVEL OF DRINKING BOOZE. BOOZE LOWERS THE SEX HORMONE TESTOSTERONE. WHY WOULD SEX LOVING PERSONS DRINK BOOZE? MANY LEAN ATTRACTIVE BODIES WILL NOT STAY LEAN AND ATTRACTIVE IF THEY KEEP ON BOOZING AND EATING CRAP. I URGE ALL COMMUNITY LEADERS, MUSICIANS, ATHLETES, TO PLEDGE PUBLICLY TO DRINK NO BOOZE. MUSICIANS STOP SINGING WORDS GLAMOURIZING BOOZE. OUR EXAMPLE AND INFLUENCE THOSE WHO KNOW US, I HAVE DRUNK NO BOOZE FOR MANY YEARS. >> DANGER BAROS FOLLOWED BY ALYSSA SANCHEZ. >> HELLO, EVERYBODY. I'M A FATHER AND A FULL-TIME STUDENT AT UNM. AND FREE LNS DIGITAL MARKETING PERSON. AND COVID WAS REALLY HARD ON EVERYBODY AND IT WAS REALLY HUFF FINDING OUT AFTER THINGS WERE OPENING BACK UP THAT I WAS GETTING PRICE ECONVICTED FROM MY APARTMENT. THEY RAISED MY RENT NOTIFICATION FROM $825 TO $1300. THIS IS HARD TO ABSORB. LUCKILY I WAS ABLE FIND SOMEWHERE ELSE. MY LANDLORD WAS STILL TO THIS DAY MARKETING THOSE UNITS AT THE ORIGINAL PRICE. I'M SURE THE IDEA IS TO TRAP PEOPLE IN A LEASE AND LET THEM KNOW THE BAD NEWS AS SOON AS IT COMES TO RENEW. THEY'RE ALLOWED TO DO WHATEVER THEY WANT. YOU GUYS ARE REALLY ATTENTIVE TO TRAFFIC LIGHT AND SAVING LIVES, I WONDER HOW MANY LIVES YOU SAVE BY PAYING WHAT ATTENTION YOU COULD, AND I KNOW YOU POINTED OUTRIGHT AWAY THAT YOUR HANDS ARE REALLY TIED. I WONDER HOW MANY LIVES COULD BE SAVED ESPECIALLY DOWN AT CORONADO PARK, IF WE DEALT WITH THE HUMANITARIAN CRISIS HEAD ON RATHER THAN JUMPING BACK AND POINTING OUT TO THE LAWYER THAT WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING RIGHT AWAY. MAYBE LET'S BE A LITTLE MORE AHEAD OF THE CURVE. I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> ALYSSSA SANCHEZ FOLLOWED BY CYNTHIA. >> SHE'S ON ZOOM, IF THAT'S POSSIBLE. >> CYNTHIA, FOLLOWED BY MAKAYLA CHAVEZ. >> HELLO, I AM AN ORGANIZER WITH THE PEOPLE'S HOUSING PROJECT. THE RENT HAVE ABSOLUTELY SKY ROCKETED IN THIS CITY AND WE ALL KNOW THAT. AND INSTEAD OF ADDRESSING THAT LIKE HAS BEEN SAID, IN DOING EVERYTHING YOU CAN DO PUSH FOR AN END ON RENT CONTROL STAYED WIDE. I'M SURE YOU HAVE PEOPLE IN THE STATE LEGISLATURE. YOU GUYS HAVE DECIDED TO SAY YOUR HANDS ARE TIED. WHILE YOU CONTINUE TO INVEST IN DEVELOPERS LIKE TIGHTEN WHO GENTRIFY AND PRICE OUT THE LOCALES THAT LIVE HERE IN ALBUQUERQUE. THERE'S NO REASON FOR THAT. YOU SHOULD BE FOCUSED ON BUILDING AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR PEOPLE AND DOING SOMETHING IMMEDIATELY TO ALLEVIATE THE CRISIS TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE ARE ABLE TO STAY IN THEIR HOMES. IT'S ONLY GOING TO CONTINUE TO GET WORSE. AS WE DO OUTREACH WE SEE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN APARTMENTS WHERE THERE'S FECES IN THE LOCAL COMMON AREAS. AND THE LANDLORDS ALLOW THAT. AND YOU GUYS DO NOTHING TO ENFORCE LIVABLE LIVING SITUATIONS FOR PEOPLE. EVEN NOW, YOU'RE SAYING THERE'S NOTHING YOU CAN DO TO MAKE SURE RENT IS AFFORDABLE AND THAT'S A LIE. I DON'T JUST ASK BUT I DEMAND THAT YOU TAKE ACTION TO MAKE HOUSING AFFORDABLE IN ALBUQUERQUE. >> MAKAYLA CHAVEZ FOLLOWED BY JENNIFER MERRYMAN. >> JENNIFER MERRYMAN FOLLOWED BY CATHERINE. >> HELLO, I'M A PEOPLE'S HOUSING PROJECT ORGANIZER AND WORKING OWNER OF A SUCCESSFUL MANUFACTURING BUSINESS IN 2016. WE ARE IN THE HIGHEST REGULATED SEGMENT OF MANUFACTURING BECAUSE WE WORK WITH HIGHLY VOLATILE SUBSTANCES AND POTENTIAL CROSS CONTAMINATION. WE LITERALLY WORK WITH OVER REGULATING AGENCIES BETWEEN STATE AND CITY WITH THOUSANDS OF PAGES OF SOP TO ENSURE WE PASS ANY SPOT INSPECTIONS WITH FLYING COLORS. WE ARE A BETTER COMPANY FOR THESE REGULATIONS OUR EMPLOYEES ARE SAFE, AND WE KEEP THE PUBLIC SAFE. WHAT I ASK YOU THOUGH IS WHY IS THE ONUS ON ME AND YOU FOR THAT REGULATION, YET YOU PUT THE ONUS ON THE WORKING PEOPLE UNDER THESE UNSAFE HOUSING CONDITIONS TO CALL YOU TO TALK ABOUT THEIR RESOURCES WHERE THEY HAVE THE SAME ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS. I CANNOT RECONCILE WHY MY BUSINESS HAS SO HEAVILY REGULATIONS WHY LANDLORDS ARE NOT HELD TO THE STANDARD OF SAFE BUILDING STRUCTURES, AIR QUALITY, WATER QUALITY, MOLD PRESENCE, FIRE SAFETY. WHY DO LANDLORDS GET THE ABLE TO HIKE RATE 50%. YOU BUT THE ONUS ON THE HARDWORKING PEOPLE AND ALLOW THE PROFIT. THE NEED FOR RENT CONTROL IS CRITICAL BECAUSE YOU CREATED THE PERFECT STORM. LOOSE RULES THAT CREATE. >> FRAN -- CATHERINE FOLLOWED BY FRANCESCO ARTIST. FRANCESCO ORTEST FOLLOWED BY JORDAN NEWLANDER. >> THE COUNCIL IS DIFFICULT IN TWO MINUTES. SOMETIMES SHORTENING THAT TO 90 SECONDS CAN BE A CHALLENGE. IF MORE PEOPLE THAN UNUSUAL SIGNED UP TO SPEAK IT IS BECAUSE THE CITY HIT A NEVER AND -- NERVE AND LIVELY DEBATE SHOULD BE ENCOURAGED. THE RECENT CHANGE IN ROLES THAT WE CAN ONLY SPEAK BY SIGNING UP WAY IN ADVANCE CAN BE PROBLEMATIC. THERE SHOULD BE LESS BARRIERS FOR THE PUBLIC'S VOICE TO BE HEARD. ESPECIALLY WHEN WE THE PEOPLE WHO CHOOSE TO PARTICIPATE IN THE PROCESS BY EXPRESSING OUR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT TO FREE SPEECH DON'T GET TO COST A VOTE. NOW MORE THAN EVER, WHEN CURRENT REDISTRICTING MEANS A LARGE GROUP OF ALBUQUERQUE RESIDENTS WILL BE REPRESENTED BY A COUNCILOR THAT NOT ONLY DIDN'T VOTE FOR BUT WERE UNABLE TO BY LAW BECAUSE THEY LIVE IN A DIFFERENT DISTRICT. IT NEEDS LIKE OPEN MIC NOT WHERE ANYONE WANTS TO SPEAK CAN LINE UP AND TAKE THEIR TURN. THANK YOU. >> JORDAN NEWLANDER FOLLOWED BY AMY PADILLA. >> HELLO, I AM AN ORGANIZER WITH THE PEOPLE'S HOUSING PROJECT AS WELL AS STUDENT AT NURBGS UNM. WITHIN THE LAST YEAR ALBUQUERQUE SEEN A RENT INCREASE ANYWHERE FROM 15 TO 22%. WITHIN THE LAST MONTH ALONE, CITY RENT HAS INCREASED APPROXIMATELY 9%. I HAVE COUNTLESS FRIENDS WHO HAVE BEEN PRICED OUT OF THE CHILDHOOD HOUSES. THIS IS NOT FAIR. THIS IS NOT RIGHT. IT IS YOUR RESPONSIBILITY TO PROVIDE SAFE AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR ALBUQUERQUE RESIDENTS. PLEASE DECLARE PUBLIC HEALTH EMERGENCY. THANK YOU. >> AMY PADILLA FOLLOWED BY THOMAS HARRIS. >> THOMAS HARRIS FOLLOWED BY KRISTEN [ INAUDIBLE ]. >> HELLO, I'M AN ORGANIZER FOR PEOPLE'S HOUSING PROJECT. WE ARE HERE TO ESTABLISH RENT HAS BEEN GOING SKY HIGH AND THE NEED FOR -- THE NEED TO HAVE HIGHER RENT CONTROL IS INTIMATE. WE NEED IT RIGHT NOW. WE ALSO DEMAND FOR MORE HOUSING PROJECTS FOR THE HOMELESS. WE ASK FOR HOUSING VOUCHERS. AS WELL AS HOMELESS SHELTERS. WE KNOW THE CITY HAS MORE THAN ENOUGH FUNDS TO MEET THE HEALTH CARE AND HOUSING NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY. THERE ARE APARTMENTS AND HOUSING THAT CAN BE EASILY RENOVATED TO HOUSE HOMELESS PEOPLE. AND WE ALSO BELIEVE THAT WE COULD SPEND GETTING MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING AS WELL. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> KRISTEN FORGIE, FOLLOWED BY BEN INGUS. >> SHAME GUILT AND FEAR. THE SHAME OF KNOWING NO MATTER HOW HARD THEY WORK AND CLOCK IN THEY CAN BE HOMELESS NEXT MONTH. THE GUILT FROM NOT BEING ABLE TO KEEP THE LIGHTS ON WITHOUT DUE PROCESS OR REASON. FEAR THEY WON'T HAVE FOOD. SHAME IS WHAT YOU SHOULD FEEL TO NOT TAKE DIRECTION ACTION. DEVELOPERS AND LANDLORDS CAN AFFORD THIRD AND FOURTH HOME. WITHOUT IMPLEMENTING RENT CONTROL YOU COSINE THE DESTRUCTION OF CITY. THE MORE YOU PROTECT DEVELOPERS ANDLAND LORDS YOU SAY WE DON'T CARE ABOUT THE SMALL BUSINESSES. WITHOUT RENT CONTROLLED YOU SENTENCE YOUR COMMUNITY TO HEALTH ISSUES AND THE DEHUMANIZATION OF BEING PRICED OUT. WHAT LEGACY ARE YOU LEAVING BEHIND WHEN YOUR WORK IS COMPLETE. HOW ARE YOU ABLE TO REST WHEN YOUR NEIGHBORS ARE DROWNING. I HOPE EVERYONE IS HEARD AND ENCOURAGED TO SPEAK THEIR TRUTH. SHAME TO PEOPLE IN POWER AS LONG AS IT TAKES TO GET SOMETHING DONE. THE ABILITY TO GET ANYONE WITH POWER TO HEAR. YOUNG PEOPLE OF THIS COMMUNITY ARE DEMANDING THAT POLITICIANS AND PEOPLE OF POWER DEMAND THEY DO MORE. AND THE PROHIBITION ON RENT CONTROL. WE WON'T STOP UNTIL WE SEE CHANGE THAT IS MEASURABLE. THE POWER IS WITH US THE PEOPLE AND WE HAVE HAD ENOUGH. >> BEN IMBUS, FOLLOWED BY MARY VALENZUELA. MARY VALENZULEA FOLLOWED BY RAYNALDO. MARTINEZ. RAYNALDO MARTINEZ FOLLOWED BY LAUREL PARENTAL. FOLLOWED BY JOSE ENRIQUEZ. FOLLOWED BY GRACE OLIVAS. >> ORGANIZER OF PEOPLE'S HOUSING PROJECT. ON JUNE 21st, 2018 MAYOR KELLER WENT TO THE U.S. MEXICO BORDER WITH THE GROUP OF MAYOR ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND CALLED FOR THE IMMEDIATE UNIFICATION OF YOUTH AND CHILDREN WITH THEIR FAMILIES. I BRING THIS UP BECAUSE WE KNOW THERE ARE SOME THINGS OUTSIDE OF THE CONTROL OF CITY GOVERNMENT IT'S NOT OUTSIDE THE POSSIBILITY FOR OFFICIALS TO LOBBY GOVERNMENT AT THE STATE AND FEDERAL LEVEL TO ACT ON ISSUES THEY KNOW AFFECT THE WELL BEING OF THEIR CONSTITUENTS. THE PEOPLE'S HOUSING PROJECT, THE OFFICE OF MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL AND MEMBERS OF THE LEGAL COMMUNITY KNOW THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE CAN'T INSTITUTE AN ORDINANCE BECAUSE OF STATE LAW. ONE QUESTION REMAINS WHY HASN'T THE MAYOR LOBBIED THE STATE GOVERNMENT TO HELP WITH THE HOUSING CRISIS THAT WILL ALLOW MUNICIPALITIES TO ALLOW RENT CONTROL ORDINANCES. I REFERENCE THE ALBUQUERQUE JOURNAL ARTICLE ABOUT GOING TO AN EVENT AT THE BORDER THAT STATES KELLER AND THE MAYORS OF LA, TUCSON, HOUSTON CALL FOR END OF FAMILY SEPARATION POLICY AND HOMELAND SECURITY NIELSEN. WE NEED JUSTICE FOR IMMIGRANTS AND MY MAIN POINT IS IT'S OBVIOUS THAT CITY GOVERNMENT DO LOBBY FOR ISSUES THEY ARE PASSIONATE ABOUT. WHY DOESN'T THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE, THE LARGEST CITY IN THE STATE THAT SITS 50 MILES SOUTH OF THE STATE CAPITAL LOBLY TO HAVE RENT CONTROL? >> GRACE OLIVAS FOLLOWED BY BARBARA OLIVAS. >> GOOD EVENING, I LIVE IN ALBUQUERQUE IN DISTRICT ONE. AND AS A CONCERNED CITIZEN, I AM ASKING YOU TO REAPPROPRIATE THE $250,000 THAT HAS BEEN DESIGNATED FOR PLANNED PARENTHOOD TO YOUTH SHELTERS INCLUDING THE -- HOUSE. ON THE WEST SIDE WE'VE SEEN A HUGE INFLUX OF HOMELESS PEOPLE. INCLUDING YOUTH AND WOMEN. IN ADDITION AS A SURVIVOR OF A TRAUMATIC ABORTION EXPERIENCE THAT HAPPENED AT PLANNED PARENTHOOD I'M OPPOSED TO MY TAX DOLLARS FUNDING PLANNED PARENTHOOD BECAUSE IT VIOLATES MY CONSCIENCE. I STRONGLY SUPPORT THE TAXPAYER DOLLARS BE REAPPROPRIATED TO BARRETT HOUSE WHICH IS AN ORGANIZATION THAT PROVIDES SHELTER AND SUPPORTED SERVICES TO WOMEN AND CHILDREN. THANK YOU. >> BARBARA SPRBGS -- OLIVAS. >> HELLO, I'M BARBARA. AND I WANT TO SAY THAT I'M AGAINST $2500, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE GOING TO DO THAT OR NOT. I WANT TO TELL YOU THAT I DIDN'T WANT TO BE A PART OF THAT. THOSE ARE OUR TAX DOLLARS AND IT SHOULD BE GIVEN TO SOMEBODY THAT TRULY NEED IT. I SEE A GREAT NEED HERE TONIGHT WITH ALL THESE PEOPLE THAT HAVE TALKED ABOUT HOMELESS, MAYBE YOU CAN GET THAT $250,000 AND HELP THESE PEOPLE AND WORK IT OUT SOMEHOW AND GIVE THEM THE MONEY. IT'S OBVIOUS THEY NEED IT. THAT WHAT I'M TELLING YOU. AND -- SILENCE IN THE FACE OF EVIL IS EVIL. NOT TO ACT IS TO ACT. I HOPE THAT GOD SPEAKS TO YOUR CONSCIENCE BECAUSE THESE PEOPLE ARE IN DIRE NEED. THEY'RE HOPING MAYBE YOU CAN GIVE NEM -- THEM A LITTLE HOPE. MAYBE THAT MONEY SHOULD BE ALLOTTED FOR THAT. THANK YOU. >> GERALDO CORNELLO FOLLOWED BY ALYSSA SANCHEZ ON ZOOM. MR. PRESIDENT, WE'LL MOVE TO PUBLIC COMMENT OVER ZOOM. THE FIRST SPEAKER WILL BE ALYSSA SANCHEZ FOLLOWED BY ALEXANDRIA. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. SINCE 2020, THE MEDIAN RENT HAS SKY ROCKETED IN NEW MEXICO. IT HAS DRIVEN MANY PEOPLE INTO UNJUST POVERTY AND HOMELESSNESS. SEEING SO PEOPLE LIVING PAYCHECK TO PAYCHECK IT'S ACCOMEN TO CHEESE RENT CONTROL IS NEEDED TO SAVE OUR FELLOW NEW MEXICANS FROM BEING HOMELESS. AND IN POVERTY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> ALEXANDRA PAIZANO. FOLLOWED BY TINA. >> HELLO, I WORK FOR THE NEW MEXICO COALITION TO END HOMELESSNESS. A LOT OF MISINFORMATION HAS BEEN SPREAD ABOUT SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES. WHEN PEOPLE HEAR SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES OR SANCTIONED INCAM CAMPMENT OR SKID ROW. THAT IS NOT WHAT IT IS. IT'S SMALL MANAGEABLE POPULATIONS OF PEOPLE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS THAT ARE AT A SINGLE SITE. THOSE LIVING THERE HAVE RULES ON-SITE WITH IMPORTANT SERVICES 24-7 AND CASE CONSFRENS FRENSING COUNCILOR BASSAN SAID HELPING 40 PEOPLE WILL NOT MAKE A DENT IN THE PROBLEM WE HAVE. THIS STATEMENT SHOWS HOW LITTLE SHE KNOWS. 40 TO 50 MEANS THE CAPACITY OF THE SITE. THAT DOES NOT MEAN THAT'S ALL THAT WILL BE HELPED. AS MORE PEOPLE MOVE TO STABLE SITUATIONS THERE WILL BE PEOPLE THAT MOVE IN. EVEN IF A SAFE ENCAMPMENT ASSISTED 40 TO 50 PEOPLE, DO YOU BELIEVE THEIR SUCCESS DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING. IF YOU DO, YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND THE POPULATION THE PEOPLE FACE. YOU DON'T WANT MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES OR CRIMINAL RECORDS. ANYONE OF YOUR NEIGHBORS CAN HAVE THOSE ISSUES. THESE PROBLEMS ARE NOT UNIQUE TO THE UNHOUSED. WE HAVE FAMILIES WITH SMALL CHILDREN, NEWBORN BABIES, SENIOR CITIZENS UNACCOMPANIED YOUTH LIVING IN TENTS OR SLEEPING IN THE STREET. THERE ARE COUNTLESS PEOPLE THAT END UP THE SITUATION BECAUSE THEY CAN'T AFFORD HOUSING. WE NEED TO IMPROVE THE -- >> THANK YOU. THANK YOU. YOUR TIME IS UP. THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS TINEA KACHEL FOLLOWED BY TONY WALLACE. >> CAN YOU HEAR ME? >> YES. >> GOOD EVENING, I'M A COMMUNITY MEMBER CONCERNED WITH THE CLOSURE OF CORONADO PARK. AND THE POSSIBLE MORATORIUM ON SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES. I WANT TO SHARE TWO BRIEF BULLET POINTS. WE NEED A TRAUMA INFORMED APPROACH TO THE SITUATION AT CORONADO PARK. SUCH AN APPROACH IS MOST EFFECTIVE WHEN IT USES TRUST. AND THE CITY AND AGENCIES HAVE A TRUST PROBLEM. THE STRATEGY AT CORONADO WHERE PEOPLE HAVE NO IDEA WHEN THE PARK WILL BE CLOSED AND FOR REASONS PEOPLE HAVE IDENTIFIED DO NOT FEEL SAFE RELOCATING TO ANY SHELTER OR FACILITY AND STRATEGY IS TO EXACERBATE THE TRAUMA. I ASK YOU TO RECONSIDER THE DECISION TO CLOSE CORONADO AND BEFORE CLOSING THE PARK DEVELOP A PLAN THAT HAS REAL IMPACT FOR THE PEOPLE LIVING THERE AND HEARS VOICES TO NEEDS. ONE IDEA IS TRANSITION CORONADO TO BE SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES. SECOND POINT IS VOTE NO ON R-22-56 MORATORIUM ON SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES. THE SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES STRATEGY HAS THE POTENTIAL TO PROVIDE TRAUMA-INFORMED APPROACH AND EFFECTIVE ALTERNATIVES THAT OFFER OPTIONS FOR PEOPLE TO TRANSITION INTO SABLE HOUSING. SOCIAL SERVICES, HEALTH CARE AND ISSUES ARE MORE EFFECTIVELY ADDRESSED ONCE SOMEONE'S HOUSING IS STABILIZED. EVEN A RANGE OF HOUSING SUCH AS THOSE THROUGH SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES. I URGE YOU TO VOTE NO ON R-22-56. THANK YOU. >>-- FOLLOWED BY RISSA --. >> HELLO, CAN YOU HEAR ME? >> YES, PLEASE PROCEED. >> HELLO, I'M TONY WALLACE. I'M A UNM STUDENT AND A CHRONICALLY HOMELESS MILITARY PROGRAM. SHOUT OUT TO HASH. WE NEED ENCAMPMENTS RAKE HIKE AND EVICTION MORATORIUM STARTING TODAY. OR DELAYER A PUBLIC HEALTH EMERGENCY THAT ACHIEVES THE SAME END. FOR PEOPLE LIKE ME IS NOT AN EXPENSE WE CAN BUT BACK ON. MOST OF US ARE -- I BELONG TO THAT GROUP. I ALSO BELONG TO A GROUP OF UNM STUDENTS THAT SPENT THE HOUSING ECONOMY OF THE CITY WHILE CONDUCTING STAKEHOLDER SURVEYS. ABOUT 50% OF RESIDENTS ARE TRANSPORT IN A VIOLENT CYCLE BECAUSE OF LACK OF HOUSING POLICIES AND INVENTORY. AND THE CITY'S CRIMINALIZATION OF HOMELESSNESS. THE CITY IS PROTECTED EXTORTION OF RESIDENTS THAT ROBS OF US HUMANITY. WE NEED THREE THINGS TO END THIS CITY BACKED VIOLENCE. EVICTION MORATORIUM STARTING TODAY. RENT HIKE STARTING TODAY. OR DECLARE A PUBLIC HEALTH EMERGENCY THAT ACHIEVES THE SAME IND. IF THE CITY DOESN'T DO THIS TODAY, THEY'RE COMPLICIT AND ENABLING THE DEATH AND OPPRESSION OF THE MAJORITY OF THE CONSTITUENTS. THANK YOU FOR LISTENING NOW DO THE RIGHT THING. >> NEXT SPEAKER IS LISA. >> HELLO, I LIVE IN THE SOUTH VALLEY. COUNCILOR PEÑA IS MY COUNCILOR FOR DISTRICT THREE. I'M AN ORGANIZER WITH MANY LOCAL ORGANIZATIONS. I'M HERE VIA ZOOM TO TALK ABOUT ACS. AND TO ASK ONE MORE TIME FOR 100% FUNDING FOR ACS. IT'S NOT WORKING IDEALLY AS IT WAS PROMISED AS IT COULD OR SHOULD. RIGHT NOW, APD IS THE GATEKEEPER FOR CALLING IN ACS OR DISPATCHERS. WHAT WAS PRESENTED WHEN THEY CAME DOWN AND PRESENTED FROM COLORADO AND HUNG OUT IS THEY HAVE IT BACKWARD. THEY GO OUT TO EVERY SITUATION WITH MENTAL HEALTH CONCERNS AND THEY CALL THE POLICE IF THEY FEEL LIKE THEY CANNOT HANDLE THE SITUATION, IF THEY FEEL LIKE THEY'RE IN DANGER. RIGHT NOW, ACS IS HANGING OUT WITH THOSE WHO ARE HOUSELESS AND THAT'S GREAT. HOWEVER THAT IS NOT THE ONLY CIRCUMSTANCE THAT ACS COULD BE USED. THE GOAL IS TO MINIMIZE THE PUBLIC'S INTERACTION WITH POLICE. SPECIFICALLY PEOPLE OF COLOR LIKE MYSELVES, AND PERSONS IN EXPLOITED COMMUNITY. IF APD IS THE FIRST ONE TO GO OUT TO MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS AND THEY DECIDE TO CALL ACS THAT'S NOT IDEAL. AND IT'S NOT ACCEPTABLE, FINANCIALLY, IT MAKES MORE SENSE TO PREVENT AND MINIMIZE -- >> THANK YOU, YOUR TIME IS UP. >> ONE LAST SENTENCE THEN ALL THE COST ASSOCIATED WITH SETTLEMENT 100% FUNDING FOR ACS IS WHAT I'M ASKING FOR. >> THANK YOU. MR. PRESIDENT, THAT CONCLUDES GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU. THANKS EVERYONE FOR SPEAKING. >> MR. PRESIDENT, IT'S VERY LIKELY THAT SOME OF THE FOLKS MAY HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON BILLS AS OPPOSED TO GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. THERE WILL BE MORE PUBLIC COMMENT TAKEN THROUGHOUT THE EVENING ON SPECIFIC BILL ITEMS FOLKS HAVE SIGNED UP. HOWEVER THE LIST WE PULLED OFF THE SIGN UP IS COMPLETE AS OF THE LAST SPEAKER. FOR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. >>COUN. BENTON: IF YOU DID SIGN UP FOR SPECIFIC BILL, EVERY BILL HAS THE OPTION OF GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. WE'LL MOVE ON. WE'RE NOT ANSWERING QUESTIONS FROM THE AUDIENCE. WE'RE CONCLUDED WITH THE GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. ALL RIGHT. LET'S MOVE ON TO ADMINISTRATION QUESTION AND ANSWER PERIOD. ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE ADMINISTRATION? COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK DIRECTOR VARELA A COUPLE QUESTIONS. AND I DID REACH OUT TO HIM EARLIER TODAY. >> GOOD AFTERNOON. >>COUN. BASSAN: HIGH DIRECTOR, I HOPE . >>COUN. BASSAN: I HOPE YOU CAN DESCRIBE THE STEPS FOR THELICATION PROCESS IN REGARD -- I KNOW I HAVE HAD MANY QUESTIONS ON WHAT DOES PENDING MEAN AND WHAT IS GOING ON BEHIND THE SCENES IN ORDER TO DECIDE IF THEY'RE GOING TO BE DENIED OR APPROVED. >> YES, THE STEPS, NUMBER ONE IS GO TO THE ONLINE PUBLIC FACING WEBSITE FOR THE APPLICATION IS LOCATED. ONCE AN APPLICATION HAS BEEN SUBMITTED AND THE PERSON DOES NEED TO CERTIFY THAT THEY HAVE SUBMITTED ALL OF THE REQUIRED DOCUMENTS FOR THE APPLICATION AND THOSE COME FROM THE INTEGRATED DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE THAT IS IN PLACE. ONCE IT'S IN THE SUBMITTED STATUS, THEN THE NEXT STATUS IT CAN GO TO, AND AT THAT POINT IT'S PENDING, THE NEXT STATUS IT CAN GO TO IS UNDER REVIEW. WHEN STAFF HAS THE RESOURCES AVAILABLE TO TAKE A LOOK AT AN APPLICATION, THEN IT GOES TO UNDER REVIEW STATUS. AND THE NEXT LEVEL OF STATUS IS EITHER IT'S BEEN APPROVED OR IT'S BEEN REJECTED. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, DIRECTOR, ALSO HOW DOES THIS DIFFER FROM THE NORMAL APPLICATION CROSS YOU RECEIVE IN THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT FOR OTHER PIECES OF PROPERTY? >> THIS DOES NOT DIFFER. WE HAVE SET UP THIS PUBLIC FACING PROCESS. WE CREATED THIS ACTUALLY FOR THE CANNABIS RETAIL LOCATION. SO THAT WE HAVE A LIVE LANDING PAGE WHICH SHOWS THE STATUS OF APPLICATIONS AND WE FOUND THAT WORKED ESPECIALLY WELL. EVERYBODY FINDS OUT AT THE SAME TIME THE STATUS OF AN APPLICATION. THIS IS WHAT WE'RE USING GOING FORWARD. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, DIRECTOR, DO YOU KNOW ABOUT HOW LONG ALL OF THOSE OTHER APPLICATIONS TOOK TO APPROVE OR DENY? >> THE CANNABIS RETAIL? >>COUN. BASSAN:CONBUS OR ANY OTHER THAT GO THROUGH SIMILAR PROCESS? >> THEY TAKE ANYWHERE FROM FIVE TO TEN BUSINESS DAYS. >>COUN. BASSAN: OKAY. SO, I GUESS MY CONCERN IS HEARING FROM A LOT OF THE PEOPLE IN THE PUBLIC AS WELL AS THESE APPLICATIONS, I'M CURIOUS AND MAYBE NEED TO HAVE THIS EXPLAINED BUT I THINK MOST PEOPLE ARE WONDERING HOW FIVE TO SEVEN DAYS IS THE TIME FRAME IN ORDER FOR APPLICATIONS TO PROCESS THROUGH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT WHEN SOME OTHER APPLICATIONS THROUGHOUT THE CITY ARE TAKING -- IN JANUARY I GOT A REPORT THAT SOME APPLICATIONS ARE TAKING UP TO 270 DAYS. >> IT DEPENDS ON THE NATURE OF APPLICATION. IF SOMEBODY IS WAITING FOR APPROVAL OF SUBDIVISION, THAT CAN TAKE MONTHS AND MONTHS TO GO THROUGH THE DIFFERENT PROCESSES. WHEN THERE'S A SITE LOCATION APPROVAL THROUGH THE IDO THAT THEY DOESN'T REQUIRE ENVIRONMENTAL PLANNING COMMISSION AND REVIEW BOARD HEARINGS AND ZONE ENFORCEMENT HEARING EXAMINER HEARINGS, THEN THOSE ARE MUCH QUICKER. I WOULD COMPARE THIS TO SOMEBODY WHO UNDER THE IDO WHO IS PERHAPS SEEKING TO SELL FIREWORKS. THEY SUBMIT AN APPLICATION FOR FIREWORKS, WE CHECK THAT. THOSE ARE NOT AS COMPLICATED AS PROVING A SUBDIVISION OR REZONE. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU, DIRECTOR. I THINK IT'S GREAT THAT THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT IS STREAMLINING AND SEEMINGLY DOING A REALLY GOOD JOB OF BEING RAPID WITH SEVERAL THINGS. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. >>COUN. BENTON: OTHER QUESTIONS. COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: I RECENTLY READ, THANK YOU WHERE MR. PRESIDENT, I RECENTLY READ IN A NEWSPAPER ARTICLE THAT THE ADMINISTRATION HAS BEEN ACTIVELY SEEKING PEOPLE TO PARTNER IN REFERENCE TO SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES. MY QUESTION IS, WAS THERE A DIRECTIVE THAT CAME FROM THE ADMINISTRATION TO PUSH THE SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES RATHER THAN PUSHING THE OTHER ITEMS THAT COUNCILOR BASSAN WAS TALKING ABOUT? >> CERTAINLY NOT TO THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT. NO. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU. >>COUN. BENTON: OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE ADMINISTRATION? COUNCILOR DAVIS. >>COUN. DAVIS: EXCUSE ME MR. PRESIDENT, I SEE CHIEF MEDINA. I WANT TO EXTEND CONGRATULATIONS AND THANK YOU TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. WE'VE BEEN WORKING FOR LONG TIME TO GET APD WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE AND BUILD A BETTER RELATIONSHIP TO RESPOND WHEN WE HAVE A BIG CRISIS. AND A LOT OF THAT WAS PUT TO THE TEST IN THE LAST WEEK. WITH THE SHOOTINGS IN MUSLIM NEIGHBORS, ALL OF WHICH OCCURRED IN SOUTHEAST ALBUQUERQUE. WE SPENT A LAUT LOT OF TIME DEALING WITH FOLKS THAT WERE SCARED. I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE AND APPRECIATE THAT APD RECOGNIZED THE GRAVITY OF WHAT THIS MEANT TO THE COMMUNITY AND THE IMPORTANCE OF STEPPING UP AND BREAKING DOWN ALL THE WALLS BETWEEN AGENCIES. AND IT ENDED UP WITH A GOOD RESULT. GOOD POLICE WORK BY ALL ACCOUNTS. I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO THE CHIEF AND COMMAND STAFF AND EX-END THAT THROUGH EVERYBODY WHO WORKED ON THE CASES. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BENTON: NEXT IS COUNCILOR GROUT. >>COUN. GROUT: MR. PRESIDENT, THANK YOU. I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS. FIRST FOR CHIEF MEDINA. [ INAUDIBLE ]. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. I TOO WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR YOUR HARD WORK OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS. IT WAS REALLY NICE TO SEE EVERYBODY COME TOGETHER AND MAKE A QUICK ARREST AND GET A QUICK SOLUTION. THANK YOU. A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE. HOW MANY POLICE OFFICERS LEFT APD IN 2021? AND CAN YOU BE SPECIFIC ABOUT HOW MANY RETIRED, HOW MANY LEFT BEFORE THEY WERE ELIGIBLE TO RETIRE, WHEN AN OFFICER LEAVES THE FORCE BEFORE THEY'RE ELIGIBLE TO RETIRE, DO THEY GET AN EXIT INTERVIEW. ? AND ARE OFFICERS IN ANY FORMAL WAY ASKED OR INVITED BY THE DEPARTMENT TO STAY? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, IN 2021 WE HAD 46 PEOPLE RESIGN. 9 TERMINATION. ABOVE THAT, THE TOTAL SHOULD BE 176. WE DID HAVE INDIVIDUALS EXIT DURING THE TRAINING PROCESS. THE GRAND TOTAL BETWEEN ALL FOUR CATEGORIES [ INAUDIBLE ]. WE HAVE AN EXIT INTERVIEW PROCESS. WE REVIEW IT AND TALK ABOUT THE RESULTS IN THE PAST. IT'S A VARIETY OF REASONS. SOME OF THE REASONS IN 2021 WERE CHANGES TO THE STATE LAW. AND THE LOSS OF QUALIFIED -- SOME OF THE OTHER REASONS HAVE SPECIFICALLY BEEN THE DEPARTMENT AND JUSTICE AND THE CONSENT DECREE. AND THAT POLICING ISN'T THE SAME. WE ALSO HAVE OTHER INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE GETTING OUT OF THE POLICING WORLD AND GOING SOMEWHERE ELSE BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT THE FAMILY MEMBERS JOB HAS TRANSFERRED THEM. WE DO REACH OUT INFORMALLY TO INDIVIDUALS DURING THE PROCESS. BUT NOT EVERY INDIVIDUAL. THERE'S SOME INDIVIDUALS WHO LEFT THAT IS PROBABLY A GOOD THING THEY LEFT. AND I THINK THAT'S PART OF THE REASON WE'VE MADE GROUND WITH OUR CONSENT DECREE AND SETTLEMENT WITH DOJ BECAUSE SOME OF THE INDIVIDUALS WHO REFUSE TO CHANGE LEFT THE DEPARTMENT. I THINK IN THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES, SOMETIMES IT'S GOOD SOME OF THEM LEFT PENDING DISCIPLINE. THOSE THAT WE FEEL WERE GOOD, STRONG OFFICERS WE'VE TALKED TO. AND A NUMBER OF THEM HAVE RETURNED TO THE DEPARTMENT. RECENTLY, WE'VE HAD A FEW OFFICERS WHO CHOSE TO RETURN TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR A VARIETY OF REASON. I KNOW WE HAD ONE THAT GONE TO STATE POLICE AND A COUPLE WEEKS THEY'RE READY TO COME BACK. AND GONE TO OTHER LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES AND READY TO COME BACK. THERE'S A VARIETY OF REASONS PEOPLE LEAVE AND SOME COME BACK AND SOME DON'T. WE CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD. I KNOW WE CURRENTLY HAVE 15 THAT STARTED THE CNM ACADEMY. AND WE HAVE FIVE STUDENTS [ INAUDIBLE ]. WE HAVE SEEN AN UPTICK OF INDIVIDUALS TESTING FOR THE DEPARTMENT WEEKLY. DURING OUR BIWEEKLY. THAT IS 35 EVERY TWO WEEKS. WE HAVE INCREASE NUMBERS AND MADE MODIFICATIONS. WE HAVE EXTRA TESTING THAT WASN'T NECESSARY FOR US WE'VE ELIMINATED AND MADE OR CHANGES. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS FOR -- I APPRECIATE YOU. I HAVE QUESTIONS FOR DIRECTOR PIERCE. >>COUN. BENTON: DIRECTOR PIERCE. >>COUN. GROUT: MR. PRESIDENT, HI DIRECTOR. I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS FOR YOU. DO THE CITY'S HOMELESS SERVICES CONTRACTORS HAVE A WAY TO TRACK CLIENTS FOR FOLLOW UP? DO THEY SHARE THEIR LIST WITH FCS? IS IT COMMON FOR CLIENTS TO BECOME LOST OR DROP OFF THE ROLLS? DO SERVICE PROVIDERS HAVE A WAY TO SEARCH FOR CLIENTS WHO HAVE BECOME LOST? DOES THE CITY HAVE A WAY TO TRACK THOSE CLIENTS OUTCOMES ACROSS DIFFERENT SERVICE PROVIDERS? AND HAVE ANY HEALTH ISSUES FOR INFECTIOUS DISEASES BEEN IDENTIFIED IN THE HOMELESS POPULATION. I DO PROVIDE THESE QUESTIONS AHEAD OF TIME. >> I WANTED THEM TO THINK I WAS REALLY GOOD. THANK YOU, COUNCILOR GROUT AND COUNCILOR BENTON. YES, THE AGENCY HAVE THEIR OWN INTERNAL TRACKIC SYSTEMS TO TRACK ALL OF THE CLIENTS. AND WE ALSO REQUIRE QUARTERLY REPORTS. AND WE'RE ABLE TO ACCESS THEIR DATA ANY TIME WE MAY NEED IT. WE ALSO HAVE ACCESS TO THE HMAS SYSTEM SO WE'RE ABLE TO TRACK HIGH LEVEL DATA SUCH AS ENTRY SERVICES PROVIDED AND EXIT FROM THAT SYSTEM AT ANY TIME. YES, DUE TO THE NATURE OF HOMELESSNESS IT'S TRANSIENT. WE KNOW THAT NOT VERY MANY PEOPLE HAVE ACCESS TO TELEPHONES. IT'S VERY COMMON TO LOSE CLIENTS. AGAIN, WE CAN TRACK THROUGH THAT HMAF COORDINATED ENTRY SYSTEM. MANY PROVIDERS THAT DO STREET OUTREACH ARE ABLE TO KNOW WHERE THEIR CLIENTS ARE AND MEET THEM WHERE THEY'RE AT. THEY'RE ABLE TO RELOCATE QUITE A BIT. WE DO TRACK CLIENT OUTCOMES ACROSS DIFFERENT SERVICE PROVIDERS THROUGH THE COORDINATED ENTRY SYSTEM. AND WE CAN RUN REPORTS AT ANY TIME THROUGH THE HOMELESS MANAGEMENT SYSTEM. IN ENCAMPMENTS, ESPECIALLY AT CORONADO PARK WE'VE NOTICED OUTBREAKS OF HEPATITIS A. AND WE HAVE OUTREACH PROVIDERS THAT PROVIDE MEDICAL CARE AND ARE ABLE TO PROVIDE PROPER MEDICAL TREATMENT IN THE FORM OF PRESCRIPTIONS AND IF NEEDED WE'RE ABLE TO TRANSFER CLIENTS TO THE EMERGENCY ROOM. USUALLY OUR COLLEAGUES HELP WITH THOSE TRANSFERS IF THEY'RE NOT EMERGENCIES. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. >>COUN. BENTON: COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, I'M SORRY. I HAVE A FOLLOW UP QUESTION REGARDING WHAT SHE JUST SAID. DIRECTOR, IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING, WHEN YOU SAY THE TRACKING SYSTEM AND HOW WE KNOW THE COORDINATING SYSTEM, IS THAT THROUGH THE HIM? IS THAT WITH ALL OF THE NON-PROFITS THAT PROVIDE HOUSING TO INDIVIDUALS OR JUST CITY CONTRACTED? >> IT'S THROUGH THE ENTIRE SYSTEM. AS WELL AS STATE WIDE. BUT THE NUMBERS WE CREATE ARE WITHIN THE CITY. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. THIS QUESTION IS FOR THE ADMINISTRATION. IN THE LETTER OF INTRODUCTION, EC22-122 SEEKING CONFIRMATION OF CAO. BACK IN MARCH, THE ADMINISTRATION SUBMITTED EC22-23 SEEKING RECONFIRMATION OF FIVE EXECUTIVE APPOINTMENTS. AND INCLUDE THE CAO. THAT EC WAS ULTIMATELY WITHDRAWN BECAUSE CAO NARI REMOVED HERSELF. DO YOU STILL PLAN ON SUBMITTING THE REAPPOINTMENTS FOR CONFIRMATION? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, THAT'S A QUESTION THAT I CAN TAKE AND TAKE IT TO THE MAYOR. I'D BE HAPPY TO GET YOU AN ANSWER SHORTLY. I'VE GOT A FOLLOW UP QUESTION FOR THAT AS WELL. THAT IS, THE COUNCIL MADE ITS APPOINTMENT TO THE INTERGOVERNMENTAL CONFERENCE COMMITTEE ON APRIL 4th. THIS IS THE COMMUNITY THAT CAN HELP SORT QUESTIONS UNDER THE CHARTER INCLUDING WHAT POINTS EXECUTIVE APPOINTMENT NEED CONFIRMATION. WHEN DOES THE ADMINISTRATION TO MAKE AN APPOINTMENT TO THE INTERGOVERNMENTAL COMMITTEE? >> MR. PRESIDENT, AND COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, I WILL VISIT WITH THE MAYOR ON THAT REQUEST AS WELL A GET BACK WITH YOU. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU. >>COUN. BENTON: OTHER QUESTIONS, COUNCILORS? THANK YOU. AND THANKS FOR THE ADMINISTRATION FOR RESPONSE. WE'LL MOVE TO THE JOURNAL. COUNCILOR PEÑA. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU WHERE MR. PRESIDENT. I'LL BE BRIEF. I THINK SOME OF WHAT I'M GOING TO SAY IS A FEW COMMENTS. AS COUNCILOR DAVIS SAID, I SAY THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS TO THE MUSLIM COMMUNITY AND I APPRECIATE APD WITH THEIR RESPONSE AND REALLY IDENTIFYING SOME SUSPECTS AND REALLY APPRECIATE -- ALL THE HARD WORK YOU DID. I WANT TO THANK THE SOLID WASTE CREWS TACKLING WEEDS IN THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE. WE WENT OUT ON SATURDAY AND THEY WERE TACKLING TOWER AND THE WEEDS WERE ALMOST AS TALL AS ME. I REALLY APPRECIATE ALL THE SOLID WASTE EMPLOYEES FOR DOING THAT. AND THEN, JUST WANTED TO BRING THIS TO YOUR ATTENTION WHOEVER IS IN CHARGE OF THE TREES ALONG THE ART CORRIDOR, I KNOW A LOT OF THEM NEED HELP AND HAVE ASKED ABOUT THAT. IF YOU CAN SEND ME AT THE NEXT MEETING IN TERMS OF WHERE WE ARE. FINALLY, I JUST WANT TO SAY TO DIRECTOR VARELA IN TERMS OF PERMITTING PROCESS AND COMPARING IT TO FIREWORKS, THAT'S JUST A LITTLE CONCERNING BECAUSE THESE ARE ENCAMPMENTS THAT ARE GOING IN COMMUNITIES. THERE WAS ONE TENATIVE ONE, I DON'T KNOW WHERE IT'S AT, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT APPLICATION LOOKS LIKE ONLINE IS NOT MOVING FORWARD. WE REALLY HAVE TO ADDRESS WE HAVE THE IDO IN PLACE AND WE REALLY HAVE TO ADDRESS THAT VERY THOUGHTFULLY WHEN WE'RE TRYING TO PUT THESE ENCAMPMENTS NEAR COMMUNITIES AND TALK ABOUT SETBACKS AND THE LIKE. AND IN TERMS OF WHAT ACCOMMODATIONS ARE THERE. AS THEY MOVE FORWARD. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BENTON: COUNCILOR LEWIS. >>COUN. LEWIS: MR. PRESIDENT, I MOVE APPROVAL OF THE AUGUST 1st JOURNAL. >>COUN. BENTON: THERE'S A MOTION AND SECOND FOR THE APPROVAL OF THE AUGUST 1st JOURNAL. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. THAT PASSES. COMMUNICATIONS AND INTRODUCTIONS. ANY CHANGES TO THE LETTER OF INTRODUCTION? I DO HAVE ONE MYSELF. I MOVE THE RULES BE SUSPENDED FOR PLACING EC123 ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA. IT'S THE AUTHORIZATION OF SOCIAL SERVICE AGREEMENT WITH HEADING HOME TO PROVIDE SUPPORTIVE HOUSING SERVICES TO PERSONS WHO ARE PRECARIOUSLY HOUSED AND HAVE A BEHAVIORAL HEALTH DIAGNOSES. THAT REQUIRES TWO-THIRDS VOTE. THERE'S A SECOND. COUNCILOR DAVIS, THANK YOU. AND WE WILL GO TO A VOTE ON THAT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. OPPOSED? THAT PASSES. WE'LL MOVE TO THE NEXT ONE. COUNCILOR GROUT. >>COUN. GROUT: MR. PRESIDENT, I MOVE THAT THE RULES BE SUSPENDED FOR THE PURPOSE OF INTRODUCING O-36. REFERRING IT TO THE FINANCE AND GOVERNMENT OPERATIONS COMMITTEE. O-36 IS AMENDING THE ART IN MUNICIPAL PLACES TO PROVIDE INCREASED CONSERVATION, MAINTENANCE FUNDS AND DIGITAL AND TEMPORARY PUBLIC ARTS. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU. I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION. AGAIN, THIS IS RULES SUSPENSION REQUIRING TWO THIRDS VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. THAT PASSES. COUNCILOR LEWIS. >>COUN. LEWIS: MR. PRESIDENT, I MOVE APPROVAL OF THE LETTER OF INTRODUCTION. >>COUN. BENTON: MOTION AND SECOND FOR LETTER OF INTRODUCTION APPROVAL. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. OPPOSED? THAT PASSES. WE'LL MOVE TO REPORTS OF COMMITTEES. COUNCILOR DAVIS. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT, FINANCE AND GOVERNMENT OPERATIONS COMMITTEE MET ON MONDAY AUGUST 8 AND REPORTS THE FOLLOWING ITEMS. EC85 BE APPROVED. AND EC91 AND 96 BE APPROVED AND R53 DUE PASS. I MAKE A MOTION STOOACCEPT -- TO ACCEPT THIS. >>COUN. BENTON: THERE'S A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE FGO COMMITTEE REPORT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. OPPOSED? THAT PASSES. COUNCILOR JONES. >>COUN. JONES: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. IN THE MATTER -- THE LAND USE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMITTEE MET ON WEDNESDAY AUGUST 10. IN THE MATTER OF EC102 BE APPROVED. IN THE MATTER OF EC107 AND 112 IT BE CONFIRMED. IN THE MATTER OF O32 IT BE WITHOUT RECOMMENDATION. AND IN THE MATTER OF R-42 AND 61 THAT DO PASS AS AMENDED AND BE ACTED ON IN WHICH THEY'RE REPORTED. I MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE COMMITTEE REPORT. >>COUN. BENTON: THERE'S A MOTION AND SECOND FOR THE LAND USE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMITTEE REPORT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. OPPOSED? THANK YOU. THAT PASSES. MOVE TO DEFERRALS AND WITHDRAWALS. COUNCILORS, ANY DEFERRALS OR WITHDRAWALS? SEEING NONE. WE'LL MOVE TO THE CONSENT AGENDA. ARE THERE ANY CHANGES TO THE CONSENT AGENDA? COUNCILOR DAVIS. >>COUN. DAVIS: I'D LIKE TO PULL ITEM A. APPROVEMENT FOR ITEM A. >>COUN. BENTON: ANY OTHER CHANGES COUNCILORS? FOR THE INDIVIDUALS SERVING WHO ARE BEING APPOINTED TO SERVE ON A BOARD OR COMMISSION, THANK YOU FOR YOUR WILLINGNESS TO SERVE THE CITY. WE'LL MOVE TO APPROVAL. >>COUN. LEWIS: MR. PRESIDENT, I MOVE APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT AGENDA. >>COUN. BENTON: SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES. ANY OPPOSED? THAT PASSES. AND WE'LL MOVE TO THAT ITEM. COUNCILOR DAVIS. >>COUN. DAVIS: MR. PRESIDENT, THE ITEM A IS EC22-85. MR. RAEL. AT THE FGO MEETING IT CAME UP THIS ITEM IS EXTENSION OF CONTRACT BY FAMILY AND COMMUNITY SERVICES TO DEVELOP NEIGHBORHOOD ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FUND COMMITTEE REPORT. THE PROBLEM WITH THIS WAS THE FUNDS RAN OUT IN FEBRUARY AND THE DEPARTMENT WOULD HAVE INTERNALLY DECIDED TO DISCONTINUE THE FUNDING VENDOR AND THE ADMINISTRATION DIDN'T FORWARD ANY REQUEST FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDING OR EXPANDING THE SCOPE UNTIL MAY. IT DIDN'T GET UNTIL NOW. THERE WAS AN ADDITIONAL $30,000 ADDED TO THIS ALMOST $100,000 CONTRACT. IT'S FAIRLY SMALL, BUT IT'S UNUSUAL, I DON'T THINK I'VE SEEN A KARMENT -- DEPARTMENT INTERNALLY DECIDE TO EXTEND A CONTRACT WITHOUT A SCOPE. I'M GRATEFUL FOR ALL OF THE ANSWERS AND KNEW IT WAS IMPORTANT AND I DON'T DISAGREE WITH NEED. I WONDER IF THERE'S SOMETHING WE CAN DO TO THE BUDGETARY PROCESS TO IDENTIFY SOME OF THE GAPS OR IDENTIFY THAT SOONER SO WE DON'T HAVE CONTRACTORS WORKING HOPING THE COUNCIL WILL FUND THAT IN THE FUTURE. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR DAVIS, YES I BECAME AWARE OF THE ISSUE WHEN WE WERE GETTING READY TO THE SEND IT TO COUNCIL. I ASKED THE QUESTION LIKE YOU DID. WHY DID WE DO THIS AND WHY DID WE NOT MOVE BEFORE THE FACT TO GET IT TO THE COUNSEL AS REQUIRED BY THE PROCESS? QUITE FRANKLY, I'LL BE CANDID. I THINK WAS AN OVERSIGHT. I THINK FOLKS GOT VERY INTERESTED IN GETTING THE CONTINUING THE WORK THAT NEEDED TO BE DONE AND WE DROPPED THE BALL. IT'S ON US. WE TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THAT. AND WE'LL ENSURE WE CONTINUE TO MONITOR THIS. I BELIEVE THAT FOR EXAMPLE DIRECTOR PIERCE WAS VERY CONCERNED ABOUT IT AND OBVIOUSLY, I THINK EXPRESSED THAT CONCERN TO YOU ALL AT THE FINANCE XHEEALITY -- COMMITTEE MEETING. I'M VERY FOCUSED ON MAKING SURE THAT THESE KINDS OF ISSUES DON'T FALL BETWEEN THE CRACKS. BECAUSE WE KNOW WE HAVE TO COME TO YOU FOR APPROVAL. >>COUN. DAVIS: MR. PRESIDENT, THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THAT. IT'S ALWAYS NICE TO HEAR SOMEBODY SAY WE MISSED THAT. I APPRECIATE THAT. I DIDN'T WANT TO MAKE TOO MUCH OF A DEAL. WE HAVE SEEN A DRAFT OF THE REPORT. I THINK IT LACKS DATA AND INFORMATION. I WONDER IF BEFORE THE ADMINISTRATION INTRODUCES THAT IF WE CAN HAVE A CONVERSATION OR MEETING WITH THE ADMINISTRATION AT LEAST FOR MYSELF AND PERHAPS COUNCILOR BENTON SINCE IT'S ONLY IN OUR DISTRICTS FOR THIS POCKET OF POVERTY TO LOOK AT THE STRATEGY. I THINK THE REPORT IS VAGUE ON SPECIFICS. AND I'M SURE THERE'S SOME WE CAN VISIT BEFORE GETTING THAT EC BACK. THE VENDOR DID A LOT OF WORK. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. WITH THAT, I MOVE APPROVAL OF ITEM A IF THERE'S NO OTHER DISCUSSION. >>COUN. BENTON: MOTION AND SECOND FOR EC2285. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. ANY OPPOSED? THAT PASSES. WE WILL MOVE NOW TO THE -- TO ANNOUNCEMENTS. COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, THERE WILL BE AN ALBUQUERQUE BERNALILLO COUNTY COMMISSION ON THURSDAY AUGUST 25th AT 5 P.M. VIA ZOOM. >>COUN. BENTON: WE HAVE NO PUBLIC HEARINGS. WE'LL MOVE TO APPROVALS. FIRST IS ITEM A. EC123 AUTHORIZING SOCIAL SERVICE AGREEMENT WITH HEADING HOME TO PROVIDE SUPPORTIVE HOUSING SERVICES TO PERSONS WHO ARE PRECARIOUSLY HOUSED AND HAVE A BEHAVIORAL HEALTH DIAGNOSES. I MOVE APPROVAL. SECOND FROM COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. THANK YOU. ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THE BILL? >> MR. PRESIDENT, WE HAVE ONE PERSON SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. JORDAN NEWLANDER. JORDAN NEWLANDER. MR. PRESIDENT, IT LOOKS LIKE THEY HAVE LEFT. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU. QUESTIONS FOR COUNCILORS? COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS EC. I KNOW I REACHED OUT TO DEPUTY DIRECTOR RAMIREZ. HE WAS GOING TO BE ABLE TO HELP WITH CLARIFICATION. IF NOT, I WANT TO ASK A FEW QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS IS AN EXISTING CONTRACT. HERE COMES DIRECTOR PIERCE. THANK YOU, DIRECTOR. >> COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: I'M WONDERING IF THIS IS AN EXISTING CONTRACT. OR IF YOU CAN EXPLAIN WHAT WE'RE READING WITH HEADING HOME. I WOULD LIKE CLARIFICATION. >> THANK YOU. COUNCILOR BENTON, COUNCILOR BASSAN, THE AUTHORIZATION FOR THIS SOCIAL SERVICE AGREEMENT, AND THIS IS TO PROVIDE SUPPORTIVE HOUSING SERVICES TO PEOPLE AND THAT WAS IN THE BUDGET. IT IS $480,000. IT IS GOING TO HEADING HOME. IT WAS ORIGINALLY DONE BY RFP. WHAT'S BEEN APPROVED IS $484,000. THE DIFFERENCE AND I THINK THAT WAS ONE OF THE QUESTIONS COUNCIL HAD IS TO ACTUALLY ADDRESS SOME OF THE RENT INCREASES FOR THE CLIENTS BEING SERVED. AND THAT IS A CONTRACT THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY ADMINISTERED BY HOPE WORKS. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. DIRECTOR, WHO IS THAT WITH? WHO IS THE CONTRACT WITH? >> COUNCILOR BASSAN, THIS CONTRACT NOW SITS WITH HEADING HOME. >>COUN. BASSAN: BUT IS IT ALSO -- WHERE IS THIS MONEY FROM HEADING HOME GOING TO GO TO? I KNOW MORE SPECIFICALLY I'VE TRIED TO DO SOME RESEARCH BUT I NEED HELP WITH PART OF IT. WHERE IS HEADING HOME GOING TO GIVE THIS FUNDING TO? IS IT CURRENTLY HOUSED INDIVIDUALS THAT WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE HOUSING, IS IT SOMETHING NEW? AND POINT-BLANK, IS IT MONEY GOING TO SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES? >> OKAY, COUNCILOR BASSAN, COUNCILOR BASSAN THIS BILL HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES. THIS WAS AN EXISTING CONTRACT. IT DOES HELP KEEP PEOPLE THAT ARE PRECARIOUSLY HOUSED IN APARTMENTS. THIS MONEY ACTUALLY GOES TO HEADING HOME TO HELP WITH LEASES AND RENT FOR THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE PRECARIOUSLY HOUSED. THERE'S STAFFING IN THERE BECAUSE IT'S A SUPPORTIVE HOUSING MODEL. THAT WHOLE PIECE WITH CASE MANAGEMENT TO KEEP PEOPLE HOUSED. THIS BILL HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU, DIRECTOR. I KNOW SOME PEOPLE WERE WONDERING AND MYSELF INCLUDED. I WANTED TO CLARIFY THIS WAS NOT GOING TO BE GOING TO THAT. THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION. >>COUN. BENTON: IF I CAN, I HAVE A QUESTION. THIS WAS PREVIOUSLY UNDER HOPE WORKS. AND I KNOW THAT WE HAD SOME DIFFERENCES BETWEEN US AND HOPE WORKS. ARE WE GETTING BACK ON TRACK AS FAR AS THEIR CONTRACTS. I KNOW THERE'S TECHNICAL REASONS THEY HAD TO BE RELIEVED OF THIS ONE. >> COUNCILOR BENTON, YES. WE ARE CONTINUING TO REBUILD AND BUILD OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH HOPEWORKS. WE THINK THEY'RE REALLY IMPORTANT PROVIDER FOR OUR COMMUNITY. IF THERE WERE SOME, THERE WAS AN OIG REPORT THAT ASKED HOPE WORKS TO REPAY SOME MONEY THAT WAS OVERPAID BY THE CITY. HOPE WORKS HAS BEGUN TO REPAY THAT IN $10,000 INCREMENTS THAT BEGAN JULY 1st. AND ACTUALLY, OUR TEAM MET WITH HOPE WORKS A BEAK WFR -- WEEK BEFORE LAST TO CONTINUE TO WORK TOGETHER. HOPE WORKS DOES HAVE SOME CONTRACT. BUT IT IS WHY THIS ONE IN PARTICULAR NEEDED TO BE SWITCHED. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU. QUESTIONS COUNCILORS? THANK YOU FOR THE EXPLANATION. WE'LL MOVE BACK ON THE BILL. ANY COMMENTS? WE HEARD FROM THE ADMINISTRATION. WE'LL MOVE TO A VOTE. IF COUNCILORS DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. OPPOSED? AND THAT PASSES. WE'LL MOVE TO FINAL ACTIONS. ITEM A, COUNCILOR GROUT. >>COUN. GROUT: MR. PRESIDENT, R-646 IS ADJUSTING APPROPRIATING FUNDS FOR OPERATING THE GOVERNMENT OF THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE FOR FISCAL YEAR 2023 BEGINNING JULY 1, 2022 AND ENDING JUNE 30, 2023. THIS WILL PULL THE $250,000 THAT WAS APPROPRIATED TO PLANNED PARENTHOOD AND REAPPROPRIATE IT TO THE SERVICES FOR OUR UNHOUSED POPULATION. AND I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. FIRST, I'D LIKE TO OFFER AN AMENDMENT. >>COUN. BENTON: COUNCILOR GROUT, LET'S GET THE MOTION FOR DUE PASS TO START. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. >>COUN. BENTON: THERE'S A MOTION FOR A DUE PASS. SECOND FROM COUNCILOR BASSAN. AND WE'LL MOVE TO THE AMENDMENT. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. I LIKE TO OFFER THIS AMENDMENT. ON PAGE ONE, DELETE LINES 20 TO 26. AND REPLACE IT WITH THE FOLLOWING. FAMILY AND COMMUNITY SERVICES DEPARTMENT. REMOVE $250,000 FROM HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES, ADD $250,000 TO HOMELESS SUPPORT SERVICES. THE $250,000 DESIGNATED IN THE HOMELESS SUPPORT SERVICES PROGRAM SHALL BE ALLOCATED TO THE BARRETT HOUSE SHELTER. >>COUN. BENTON: THERE'S A MOTION AND SECOND FROM COUNCILOR BASSAN FOR AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE. ANY DISCUSSION ON THE AMENDMENT? SEEING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE AMENDMENT SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. OPPOSED? THAT PASSES ON A 5-4 VOTE. BACK ON THE ON THE BILL AS AMENDED. ANYONE SIGN UDUP TO SPEAK? >> WE HAVE DESTINY LOGAN FOLLOWED BY LAURIE JAMISON. LAURIE FOLLOWED BY MARY. >> THANK YOU, CITY COUNCIL. I'M MORE PREPARED THIS TIME. I LIVE HERE IN ALBUQUERQUE AND I'M A MOTHER OF THREE ADULT DAUGHTERS AND ADULT SONS. AS A YOUNG MOTHER WITHOUT HEALTH INSURANCE PLANNED PARENTHOOD WAS MY HEALTH CARE PROVIDER AND I'LL ALWAYS BE GRATEFUL. I WANT TO THANK THE CITY COUNCIL WHO VOTED TO HAVE FUNDING FOR PLANNED PARENTHOOD. I WRITTEN TO EACH OF YOU THANKING YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT. THANK YOU ESPECIALLY TO COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN FOR HER AMENDMENT. TO INCLUDE THIS MUCH NEEDED FUNDING TO SUPPORT ACCESS TO REPRODUCTIVE HEALTH CARE. THE PLANNED PARENTHOOD I KNOW THAT PROVIDES HEMENT -- HEL CARE IS NOT A MULTIMILLION DOLLAR COMPANY. I'M SAD THERE'S CONSIDERATION TO REAPPROPRIATE THIS FUNDING. I HOPE YOU CAN FIND ANOTHER WAY TO SUPPORT BARRETT FOUNDATION. I ASK THAT YOU VOTE NO ON R-22-46. >> MARY FOLLOWED BY MICHA. >> HELLO, MY HUSBAND AND I HAVE COME DOWN TONIGHT, WE LIKE TO READ OUR PUBLIC COMMENT ON IN FAVOR OF R-22-46. OUR FAMILY MOVED TO ALBUQUERQUE IN 1989. OVER THE YEARS, WE'VE COME TO MORE THAN A FEW CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS TO VOICE OUR CONCERNS. TONIGHT, MY HUSBAND AND I ARE HERE TO SAY THAT IT IS WRONG FOR THE CITY TO COLLECT OUR CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE TAXES AND THEN GIVE ANY OF THAT MONEY TO PLANNED PARENTHOOD. OUR NATION'S LARGEST ABORTION PROVIDER. WE BELIEVE IN PROTECTING ALL HUMAN LIFE FROM CONCEPTION UNTIL NATURAL DEATH. ABORTION PURPOSELY KILLS A LIVING UNBORN BABY. WE OPPOSE GIVING ANY TAX DOLLARS TO PLANNED PARENTHOOD. WE'RE REQUESTING THAT THE ALBUQUERQUE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS VOTE FOR R-22-46 TO REDIRECT ABORTION FUNDING TO FUNDING HOMELESS SHELTERS FOR WOMEN AND CHILDREN. JOSEPH AND MARY SEDOWSKI. >> MICHA MARTINEZ FOLLOWED BY PAULA GONZALES. PAULA GONZALES FOLLOWED BY RAMONA. >> GOOD EVENING, CITY COUNCIL. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. MY NAME IS PAULA, AND I'M CONCERNED CITIZEN AND RSIDENT OF ALBUQUERQUE. I'M HERE TO URGE YOU TO SUPPORT R-22-46. PLANNED PARENTHOOD IS A PRIVATE BILLION DOLLAR ORGANIZATION. I AM SURE -- I'M NOT SURE WHY THEY WOULD NEED A QUARTER OF A MILLION DOLLARS IN ADDITION TO WHAT THEY ALREADY CURRENTLY RECEIVE. I BELIEVE THAT OUR TAXPAYER DOLLARS CAN GO TO FUND MORE LOCAL ORGANIZATIONS THAT FUND SOLUTIONS THAT WE CURRENTLY FACE IN OUR CITY SUCH AS WOMEN, CHILDREN, AND YOUTH HOMELESSNESS. BESIDES THIS DECISION, THAT WAS MADE BACK IN MAY, WAS A VIOLATION OF THE ANTI- DONATION CLAUSE FOUND IN ARTICLE NINE, SECTION 14 OF THE NEW MEXICO CONSTITUTION. LASTLY, IT IS WRONG TO PUT MY TAX DOLLARS TO FUND ABORTION. WHEN I BELIEVE IN THE SANCTITY OF HUMAN LIFE. GOD IS THE GIVER OF LIFE AND WE'RE TO PROTECT THE MOST VULNERABLE. THANK YOU. >> RAMONA, FOLLOWED BY CANDICE LLANEZ. >> I'M WITH THE PARTY FOR SOCIALISM AND IMMIGRATION. THE MAJORITY OF AMERICANS ARE FOR THE RIGHT TO ABORTION AND THE MAJORITY OF NEW MEXICANS AS WELL. I WANT TO SPEAK AGAINST THE LEGISLATION THAT COUNCILOR GROUT HAS INTRODUCED TO REAPPROPRIATE THE $250,000 BUDGETED FOR PLANNED PARENTHOOD. IN THE WAKE OF THE OVERTURNING OF ROE AND THE CASCADING ECONOMIC CRISES THAT RESIDENTS FACE WE NEED FUNDING TO ENSHOOR ACCESS TO REPRODUCTIVE HEALTH CARE AND ABORTION. THERE ARE THREE ABORTION CLINICS IN NEW MEXICO AND ALBUQUERQUE HAS ONE. THE VITAL NEED FOR ABORTION HAS BEEN STRAINED BY PEOPLE COMING TO NEW MEXICO FROM OTHER STATES. ACCORD TO THE -- WE EXPECT TO SEE A 2,000% INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE TRAVELLING FROM OTHER STATES TO NEW MEXICO TO ACCESS ABORTION. THIS INCREASE WILL FURTHER STRAIN ALBUQUERQUE'S COMPLETELY UNDERFUNDED REPRODUCTIVE HEALTH FACILITIES. NEW MEXICO REPORTED THAT PEOPLE ARE FACING MUCH LONGER WAIT TIMES TO GET THE PROCEDURES. THE UNWANTED PREGNANCY RATE IN NEW MEXICO IS ONE OF THE MOST HIGHEST IN THE NATION. WITH HIGH COST AND FEW CLINICS MANY WOMEN STRUGGLE TO FIND ABORTION ACCESS. THIS IS WHY I URGE CITY COUNCIL TO VOTED DOWN TO REPOEPT FUNDS. WE NEED FUNDING FOR PLANNED PARENTHOOD TO HELP THE RESIDENTS OF ALBUQUERQUE. OUR CITY HAS MORE THAN ENOUGH RESOURCES TO FUND HOUSING AND HEALTH CARE WHICH ARE BOTH HUMAN RIGHTS. >> CANDICE FOLLOWED BY PATRICK. >> PATRICK, FOLLOWED BY ANETTE CASTILLO. >> MR. PRESIDENT, I'M PATRICK. LONGTIME ALBUQUERQUE RESIDENT. [ INAUDIBLE ]. AND I'M HERE TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF COUNCILOR GROUT'S RESOLUTION. PSALM31-19 SAID GOD CREATED US. EACH AND EVERY PERSON, EVERY ONE OF US HERE, ALL OF US. FAREFULLY AND WONDERFULFULLY MADE. WHETHER YOU BELIEVE IN THE GOD OF THE BIBLE OR DO NOT, YOU DO WELL TO CONSIDER WHO HAS AUTHORITY TO CREATE AND DESTROY LIFE. NO AUTHORITY IS GRANTED TO MAN OR WOMAN WHICH HAS BEEN GRANTED BY GOD. I WAS INCREDULOUS AS I HEARD COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN'S BUDGET AMENDMENT BEING READ ON THE RADIO STATING AT ANTI- WOMEN EXTREMENESS HAS USED AGGRESSION RESULTING IN INCREATESED COST AND DELAYS IN TREATMENT AND ADDITIONAL COUNSELING AND TREATMENT NEEDS. LET ME SET THE ATTACKS STRAIGHT, THE ATTACKS OCCURRED IN 2007. THERE'S NO RECORD OF ANY ATTACK SINCE THEN. I IN NO WAY CONDONE THOSE ATTACKS, I'M SURE PLANNED PARENTHOOD HAS RECOVERED JUST FINE WITH THEIR SHARE OF HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF TAXPAYER DOLLARS THEY RECEIVE EVERY YEAR. THEY ALMOST EXCLUSIVELY PROVIDE OR REFER FOR ABORTION SERVICES. ALBUQUERQUE WOMEN HAVE ACCESS TO COMPASSIONATE CARE, COUNSELING, LOVING SUPPORT AND FREE SERVICES THROUGH OUR NETWORK OF PREGNANCY CENTERS. AS MY PRIER SPEAKER POINTED OUT. THIS ACTUALLY -- >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU, SIR YOUR TIME SUP. >> IT'S ILLEGAL. THANK YOU, I APPRECIATE IT. >>COUN. BENTON: ANETTE, FOLLOWED BY MARISSA. >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCILORS. I'M ASKING YOU TO VOTE YES ON THE R-22-46 SPONSORED BY COUNCILOR GROUT. AND THANK YOU, COUNCILOR GROUT FOR SPONSORING THE BILL. THIS WILL HELP SO MANY FAMILIES AND COMMUNITIES WITH THE BARRETT HOUSE WITH THE HOMELESSNESS. MY STORY, I HAVE FOUR KIDS RANGING FROM 25 TO 8. AND I MYSELF NEEDED EXTRA ASSISTANCE FROM THE STATE AND DOMESTIC VIOLENCE ASSISTANCE AND THEY HELPED WITH LAWYER FEES AND ALSO HOMELESS SHELTERS THAT ME AND MY KIDS CAN USE FOR A SHORT TIME. I ALSO HAD THE STATE HELP ME TRAIN AS A SINGLE MOM INTO A TRUCKING INDUSTRY WHICH MADE INCOME FOR ME AND MY KIDS TO LIVE OFF OF. IT'S POSSIBLE FOR THE STATE TO HELP WITH LIFE AND PEOPLE WHO ARE HERE RIGHT NOW, I'M A TAXPAYER. AND IT CRUSHES MY HEART TO KNOW THAT I'M CLOCKING IN AND OUT TO KILL THE MOST VULNERABLE. IT IS MURDER. AND I'M A WOMAN OF FAITH. IT GOES COMPLETELY AGAINST WHAT I BELIEVE. THE PLANNED PARENTHOOD SERVICES THAT THEY OFFER, THERE'S THREE OF THEM THAT ARE IN THE BIBLE THAT SAY THEY SHOULD NOT DO. TO FUND NON-PROFIT BILLION AIR BUSINESS LIKE THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS TO ME AND MY FAMILY I ASK YOU TO VOTE YES ON THIS BILL. THANK YOU. >> MARISSA FOLLOWED BY ALEXANDER. >> HI, I'M AN ORGANIZER WITH THE PARTY FOR SOCIALISM AND LIBERATION. I WANT TO SAY IT'S DISHEARTENING TO SEE THE CITY I'M LIVING REALLOCATE FUNDING. WHEN HOUSING AND REPRUFKT HEALTH CARE ARE NOT ISSUES THAT SHOULD BE CHOSEN BETWEEN. THEY GO HAND AND HAND AS UNHOUSED WOMEN ARE SUBJECTED TO HIGHER RATE OF SEXUAL VIOLENCE AND HAVE A NEED FOR REPRODUCTIVE HEALTH CARE. TAKING FUNDS AWAY FROM ONE TO GIVE TO THE OTHER IS A SLAP TO THE FACE WHO NEED REPRUFKT HEALTH CARE AND HOUSING. THE FUNDS ARE THERE FOR BOTH AND ALBUQUERQUE RESIDENTS KNOW THIS AND SEE RIGHT THROUGH THIS PROPOSAL. THE FUNDS ALREADY ALLOCATED TO PLANNED PARENTHOOD NEED TO NOT JUST STAY BUT BE INCREASED. ABORTION ACCESS IS RIGHT THAT SHOULDN'T BE ABLE TO JUST THOSE WHO CAN AFFORD IT. BECAUSE AT THAT POINT, IT'S NOT A RIGHT IT BECOMES JUST A PRIVILEGE. FOR ABORTION TO BE A RIGHT, EVERYONE HAS TO HAVE EASY ACCESSIBLE ACCESS TO IT. WE ARE GOING TO SEE AN INFLUX OF NEED FOR ABORTIONS DUE TO THOSE WHO TRAVEL MERE BECAUSE OF LAWS IN THEIR OWN STATE. WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THIS IS SOMETHING OUR CITY CAN HANDLE. WITH THIS PROPOSAL THERE WILL BE NO WAY WE CAN HONDAL IT. RIGHTS SHOULD NOT BE EITHER OR. THAT'S RIDICULOUS. THANK YOU. >> ALEXANDER, FOLLOWED BY GERIMAH. >> HELLO, I'M ALEXANDER AND ORGANIZER FROM PSO. I'M HERE TO BRING ATTENTION TO HEALTH CARE. A MUCH NEEDED RESOURCE WITHIN NEW MEXICO COMMUNITIES, WHERE I URGE YOU TO KEEP THE $250,000 TO PLANNED PARENTHOOD. AS IT IS MUCH NEEDED AND ESSENTIAL RESOURCE FOR NOT ONLY NEW MEXICANS, AND NON-BINARY INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE BEEN COMING FROM STATES WITHOUT RESOURCES THAT PLANNED PARENTHOOD DOES PROVIDE. WITHOUT THIS FUNDING, THERE ARE GREATER RISKS THAT LEAD TO INCREASED IN MATERNAL MORTALITY RATE AND INCREASED GREATER HARM POSSIBLE TO WOMEN AND CHILDREN. NOT ONLY WOULD THE ALLOCATED $250,000 PLANNED PARENTHOOD BE BENEFICIAL FOR THE COMMUNITY, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SHINE LIGHT ON INCREASE IN FUNDING FOR SUCH HEALTH CARE ESTABLISHMENTS LIKE PLANNED PARENTHOOD WOULD NOT JUST BE BENEFICIAL TO THE COMMUNITY BUT NECESSITY SO THAT PLANNED PARENTHOOD CAN CONTINUE TO ACCOMMODATE AND SERVICE THE VAST INFLUX OF INDIVIDUALS COMING FROM OTHER STATES INTO NEW MEXICO. WITH AN -- ONLY HAVING LIMITED CLINIC WITH LACK OF FUNDS CAN BE DEVASTATING ESPECIALLY FOR THE POOR COMMUNITIES AND COMMUNITIES OF COLOR. I URGE COUNCIL LOOK AT THIS CASE WITH REGARD TO HEALTH AND WELL BEING FINANCIAL AND ACCESSIBLE OF THE COMMUNITIES. THANK YOU. >> JEREMIAH FOLLOWED BY PATRICK. >> HELLO, I'M AN ORGANIZER WITH THE PARTY OF SOCIALISM AND LIBERATION AND I WORK AT CENTRAL NEW MEXICO COMMUNITY COLLEGE. I'M HERE TO DEMAND THAT THE $250,000 ALLOCATED REMAIN TO PLANNED PARENTHOOD TO BE INCREASED. IT IS UNACCEPTABLE TO REALLOCATE FUNDS WHEN WE SHOULD BE DOING MORE TO SUPPORT ABORTION RIGHTS. I SPEAK ALL MANNER OF STUDENTS. MANY ARE DUAL CREDITS, AND SAT AND LISTEN TO STUDENTS AS YOUNG AS 11 EXPLAIN THEY'RE DROPPING CLASSES BECAUSE OF BEING SEXUALLY ASSAULTED AND FORCED TO CARRY AN UNWANTED PREGNANCY. I ALSO DEAL WITH A LARGE POPULATION OF STUDENTS WHO FACE A HOUSING CRISIS. MANY STUDENTS WOULD ALSO BE AFFECTED BY THIS DECISION AS THEY'RE FAR GREATER AT RISK OF SEXUAL ASSAULT. I DON'T WANT TO RUN-OVER MY TIME. ABORTION IS HEALTH CARE AND HEALTH CARE IS A HUMAN RIGHT. HOUSING IS A HUMAN RIGHT. IT'S TIME THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE NOT ONLY RECOGNIZES THIS BUT STRIVES TO SET AN EXAMPLE FOR THE REST OF THE COUNTRY TO FOLLOW. >> PATRICK, FOLLOWED BY PHILLIP. >> HELLO, GOOD EVENING, I'M PAT I'M AN ORGANIZER WITH THE PARTY OF SOCIALISM. IN THE WAKE OF ABORTION RIGHTS BEING STRIPPED AWAY IT'S IMPARATIVE THAT ALBUQUERQUE AND THE STATE OF NEW MEXICO PROTECT THE RIGHT TO BORTION BUT EXPAND HEALTH CARE INITIATIVES DESIGNED TO ACCOMMODATE THE VAST INFLUX OF PEOPLE COMING TO OUR STATE. WITH ONLY THREE ABORTION CLINICS IN NEW MEXICO WE DON'T HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE TO ACCOMMODATE SUCH HEALTH CARE NECESSITIES. I ASK THAT THE CITY COUNCIL MAINTAIN THE $250,000 ALLOCATION OF PLANNED PARENTHOOD AND ASK THE HOUSING CRISIS ALSO BE ADDRESSED WITHOUT SACRIFICING THE HEALTH CARE NEEDS OF THE CITY. WE HAVE THE RESOURCES AVAILABLE TO ADDRESS BOTH HEALTH CARE CRISIS AND HOUSING CRISIS. WE MUST POUR AS MUCH AS WE CAN TO MEET THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY. AFFORDABLE SAFE HOUSING AND RENT CONTROL ARE NECESSITY THAT CAN QUADLY PREVENT THE NEED FOR SYMPTOMATIC TREATMENT THAT ALLOW FOR ABORTION HEALTH CARE AND HOUSING RIGHTS TO BE PROTECTED RATHEDER THAN SACRIFICING ONE FOR THE OTHER. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> PHILLIP, FOLLOWED BY REBECCA. >> THANK YOU, COUNCILOR BENTON. I'M HERE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF R-22-46 AND URGE YOU TO PLEASE REDIRECT THIS FUNDING. I AM NOT AN ORGANIZER WITH ANY ORGANIZATION, I'M A TAX PAYING CITIZEN AND LIVED HERE FOR OVER 25 YEARS. I THANK YOU FOR THAT. I THANK YOU THAT YOU HAVE A REALLY HARD JOB. AND I SAT HERE AND LISTENED TO WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE CITY. I HAVE COOL STATISTICS THAT I CAN SEND TO YOU. BUT REALLY IT'S A CHOICE. THE CHOICE IS WHAT DO WE WANT TO BE KNOWN FOR? DO WE WANT TO BE KNOWN AS THE ABORTION DESTINATION OF THE COUNTRY? OR DO WE WANT TO BE KNOWN FOR A CITY THAT LOVES FAMILIES? THAT CARES ABOUT CITIZENS AND HELPS INDIVIDUALS. NOT SOME PLACE WHERE YOU COME AND DO LATE TERM ABORTIONS. THAT'S NOT HEALTH CARE. WE ALL KNOW THAT. IF YOU JUST RESEARCH WHAT A LATE TERM ABORTION IS, YOU WOULD KNOW THAT IT'S NOT HEALTH CARE. IT IS BARBARIC. SO, I ASK YOU TO PLEASE SEARCH YOUR CONSCIENCE, LOOK AT YOUR FAMILIES. LOOK AT YOUR CITIZENS YOUR CITY. AND SAY WHAT DO WE REALLY WANT TO BE. WHAT DO WE WANT TO BE KNOWN FOR. AND MAKE THE RIGHT DECISION. THANK YOU. >> REBECCA FOLLOWED BY BARBARA. >> GOOD EVENING, MY NAME IS REBECCA, I'M A WIFE, I'M A MOTHER, I'M A GRANDMOTHER AND I'M A NATIVE ALBUQUERQUE NEW MEXICAN. I'VE BEEN PROUD TO LIVE HERE FOR 55 YEARS. BUT THE WAY THINGS ARE GOING LATELY, I'M NOT PROUD ANYMORE. I URGE YOU TO SUPPORT R-22-46. I DO BELIEVE IN THE SANCTITY OF LIFE. I DO BELIEVE THAT AT THE MOMENT OF CONSENTTION THAT IS A LIFE. I'M OPPOSED TO MY TAXPAYER DOLLARS GOING TO FUND SOMETHING INAPPROPRIATELY TO SUCH CAUSES AS ABORTION AS WELL AS TO SUCH DIVISIVE ISSUES AS THE SUBJECT OF HEALTH CARE AND WHAT SOME ARE CALLING HEALTH CARE AND WHAT WITH OTHERS ARE DESCRIBING. I URGE YOU TO SUPPORT R-22-46 WHICH WOULD HELP CITIZENS THAT ARE IN DIRE NEED IN OUR COMMUNITY. THANK YOU. >> BARBARA JORDAN FOLLOWED BY MICHAEL. >> HELLO, MY NAME IS BARBARA JORDAN. I'M HERE TO ASK TO VOTE NO ON R-22-46. I'M A VETERAN OF THE UNITED STATES AIR FORCE. I'M A COMBAT VETERAN THAT SERVED IN AFGHANISTAN. I'M A RAPE SURVIVOR THAT BENEFITTED FROM PLANNED PARENTHOOD. AND I AGREE THAT NOT ONLY SHOULD THE $250,000 STAY BUT NEEDS TO BE INCREASED. I BELIEVE IN ALBUQUERQUE AND NEW MEXICO AND WE CAN DO BOTH. I KNOW WE CAN FUND HEALTH CARE WITH PLANNED PARENTHOOD AND ALSO FIND SUPPORT FOR THE BARRETT FOUNDATION WITHOUT STRIPPING MONEY FROM THE REPRODUCTIVE HEALTH CARE FROM OUR COMMUNITY. MY LIFE MATTERS AS A BLACK WOMAN HERE, I AM YOUR VULNERABLE CITIZEN. AND I'M TELLING YOU I BENEFITTED FROM PLANNED PARENTHOOD AND I KNOW WE CAN DO THE RIGHT THING AND WE CAN FIND MONEY AND ACCESS FOR BOTH. BECAUSE LIVES MATTERS, HUMAN LIFE MATTERS. THANK YOU. >> MICHAEL, FOLLOWED BY CORA. >> THANK YOU, CITY COUNCIL. MY NAME IS MIKE. AN ABORTION MALPRACTICE ATTORNEY AND NATIONAL PRO-LIFE ATTORNEY. WE CAN ALL AGREE THAT THE NUMBERS FOR ABORTION, WE WANT TO KEEP LOW. DWEENT WANT MORE ABORTION. NO WOMAN OUT THERE SAYS I WANT TO HAVE AN ABORTION. THEY'RE NOT EXCITED ABOUT IT. THEY'RE IN A BAD SITUATION. MOST WOMEN IN NEW MEXICO, WE HAVE ONE OF THE LOWEST ABORTION RATES IN STATE IN THIS COUNTRY. FROM 2015 TO 2019 WE HAD A 14% DECREASE IN THE AMOUNT OF ABORTIONS HERE IN THEED -- IN THE STATE OF NEW MEXICO. NOT BECAUSE OF ANY LAW, OR CONRUCEPTION. WE HAD THE DECREASE BECAUSE WE ATTACKED THE PROBLEM WHERE IT WAS. AND THAT PROBLEM IS POOR WOMEN. 80% OF WOMEN WHO HAVE ABORTIONS ARE POOR. THEY WANT TO CHOOSE LIFE, 58% HAVE CHOSEN LIFE BEFORE IN NEW MEXICO. HOW DID IT HAPPEN. THE PREGNANCY CENTER. THE PREGNANCY CENTERS RAISED ALMOST A MILLION DOLLARS MORE THAN THEY WERE RAISED IN 2015. AND THEY'RE INTERJECTED IT INTO THE COMMUNITY SO WOMEN CAN HAVE A TRUE AND ACCURATE CHOICE. IT'S NOT BECAUSE OF INTIMIDATION THAT THESE THINGS ARE DOWN. PLANNED PARENTHOOD'S OWN SENIOR DIRECTOR OF SECURITY SAID THERE AREN'T MANY INCIDENTS IN NEW MEXICO AND I PROVIDE YOU WITH THAT AFFIDAVIT. LET'S BE A LITTLE BIT MORE PROGRESSIVE INSTEAD OF RECONGRESSIVE, LET'S FUND POOR AND INDIJANT CENTERS. >> CORA FOLLOWED BY JODIE. >> GOOD EVENING, I'M HERE TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THIS MOTION OF R-22-46. MAY NOT HEAR THIS VERY OFTEN, BUT MY HUSBAND AND I ARE WILLING TAXPAYERS. WE FEEL IT'S IMPORTANT AS A SOCIETY WE PROMOTE THE HEALTH, WELFARE AND GENERAL WELL BEING OF EVERY PERSON IN THE COMMUNITY AND WE STRONGLY SUPPORT INVESTING IN SERVICES TO WOMEN AND FAMILIES AT RISK. PLACES LIKE BARRETT HOUSE WHO CAN PROVIDE A PLACE FOR THOSE IN CRISIS. IN FACT, A FRIEND OF US WAS HELPED BY BEING ABLE TO STAY AT BARRETT HOUSE UNTIL HER LIFE HAD STABILIZED. WE DO NOT SUPPORT ANY TAXPAYER FUNDING GOING TO PLANNED PARENTHOOD WHICH IS AN ORGANIZATION WHOSE ABORTION SERVICES TROUBLE MANY IN OUR COMMUNITY INCLUDING US. TAXPAYER MONEY SHOULD GO TOWARD SUPPORTING EFFECTIVE AND COMPASSIONATE SERVICES TO WOMEN AND YOUTH IN CRISIS. WE STRONGLY OPPOSE SENDING TAXPAYER FUNDS TO PLANNED PARENTHOOD. THANK YOU. >> JODIE FOLLOWED BY ETHEL. >> HELLO, THANK YOU FOR HEARING US TONIGHT. I'M THE CITIZEN OF NEW MEXICO. I URGE YOU TO SUPPORT THIS BILL. I WANT TO APPEAL TO YOUR LOGIC AND WISDOM THIS EVENING. OUR TAXPAYER DOLLARS ARE MEANT TO BETTER OUR COMMUNITY. THEY'RE MEANT TO HELP OUR COMMUNITY IN WAYS WE'RE STRUGGLING TO MEET NEEDS THAT ARE IMMEDIATE. WE HAVE IMMEDIATE NEEDS TO ADDRESS WOMEN AND CHILDREN IN HOMELESSNESS. WITH THE OVERTURNING OF ROE, OUR ABORTION INDUSTRY HAS ALREADY BEGAN TO GROW AND IS PROJECTED TO GROW EVEN MORE. THERE IS MORE PROVISION FOR ABORTION AND WOMEN'S REPRODUCTIVE HEALTH THAN THERE IS FOR FUNDING OF YOUTH SHELTERS OR THE BARRETT HOUSE OR MEETING THE NEEDS OF THE HOMELESS WOMEN AND CHILDREN. AND SO OUR LOGIC AND WISDOM WOULD TELL US OUR TAXPAYER FUNDS SHOULD BE GOING TO THINGS THAT WILL HELP MEET IMMEDIATE NEEDS LIKE WHAT THE BARRETT HOUSE CAN DO. I URGE YOU TO CONSIDER LOGIC, TO CONSIDER WISDOM, WHEN IT COMES TO OUR TAXPAYER DOLLARS. THEY DO NOT NEED TO GO TO AN ORGANIZATION THAT HAS PLENTY OF FUNDING THAT THE INDUSTRY ITSELF IS GROWING IN NEW MEXICO. OUR FUNDS NEED TO BE USED TO MEET THE IMMEDIATE NEED OF THE HOMELESS ISSUE WITH OUR WOMEN AND CHILDREN. THANK YOU. >> ETHEL FOLLOWED BY RACHEL. >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCILOR BENTON, COUNCILORS, THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY. I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF RIGHTS TO LIFE COMMUNITY OF NEW MEXICO. I'VE BEEN FIGHTING FOR LIFE FROM CONCEPTION TO NATURAL DEATH. PLANNED PARENTHOOD HAVE NO PLANS OF BECOMING A PARENT OR ANY KIND OF REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS. IN 2020 THE ANNUAL REPORT THEY COMMITTED 354,000 ABORTIONS IN 2020. THEY DISTRIBUTED 584,000 EMERGENCY CONTRACEPTIONS. THERE'S NO WAY TO TELL HOW MANY OF THOSE ENDED IN DEATH FOR THOSE CHILDREN. PLANNED PARENTHOOD ADVERTISES ITSELF AS PRO-CHOICE AND 96% OF PREGNANT WOMEN WHO SEEK HELP FROM PLANNED PARENTHOOD GET ABORTION. ONLY 2.4 GET PREMADEAL CARE OF ANY KIND. THEY CALL THEMSELVES PRO-CHOICE AND THEY ATTACK PREGNANCY CENTERS THAT PROVIDE REAL HELP THAT SAVE TAXPAYERS HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS. THE FORMER PRESIDENT OF PLANNED PARENTHOOD EXPLAINED ABORTION IS PLANNED PARENTHEADS CORE MISSION. IT'S NOT ABOUT REPRODUCTIVE HEALTH. IT'S NOT ABOUT HELPING WOMEN, IT'S ABOUT THE BOTTOM LINE. PLANNED PARENTHOOD IN 1995 AND -- REVENUE TOTALLED MORE THAN $31 BILLION AND MOST WAS TAXPAYER FUNDED. WE NEED TO STOP FUNDING A BILLION DOLLAR CORPORATION AND GIVE IT TO THOSE THAT NEED IT. THERE'S PLENTY OF OPPORTUNITY. >> YOUR TIME IS UP. >> PLEASE VOTE FOR THIS MEASURE. >> RACHEL FOLLOWED BY ELLEN. >> GOOD EVENING, THANK YOU FOR HEARING US TONIGHT. I'M ALSO ASKING YOU TO VOTE FOR R-22-46. I WORK AT A CRISIS PREGNANCY CENTER AND WE SEE WOMEN EVERY DAY WHO ARE IN REALLY ROUGH SITUATIONS. AND I HAVE A LOT OF COMPASSION FOR THEM. AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT MANY OF THEM HAVE HAD ABORTIONS AT PLANNED PARENTHOOD. AND IT HAS NEGATIVELY IMPACTED THEIR LIVES. TO THIS DAY, IT LED THEM TO BE IN SITUATIONS THAT THEY'RE IN NOW. FROM MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE, I CAN TELL YOU THAT ABORTION DOES HURT WOMEN AND WE -- ALL OF US HERE THAT TRULY CARE ABOUT WOMEN AND CHILDREN AND OUR CENTER REFERS A LOT OF WOMEN TO BARRETT HOUSE. IT DOES A LOT OF GOOD FOR THEM. IT DOES A LOT OF GOOD FOR THE YOUNGER WOMEN. REALLY GIRLS THAT WE SEE. I THINK IT WOULD BE A REALLY GOOD BLESSING FOR OUR CITY IF WE COULD PUT THIS MONEY TOWARD THE BARRETT HOUSE AND OTHER CENTERS FOR CHILDREN. AND I ALSO WANTED TO MENTION THAT OUR CENTER IS FULLY FUNDED BY DONORS, OUR COMMUNITY, AND THEY REALLY DO STAND BY US. THEY GET NO GOVERNMENT FUNDING. I SPEAK FOR OUR COMMUNITY TO ASK THAT WE PUT MORE MONEY TOWARD PLACES THAT WOULD HELP. THANK YOU. >> ELEN, FOLLOWED BY LARRY. >> I'M ELLEN POLLITS. I'M ASKING FOR YOUR SUPPORT TO PASS R-22-46. I'LL PREFACE MY REMARKS BY SAYING I'M A CHRISTIAN. AND I BELIEVE THAT GOVERNMENT PATTERNED AFTER GOD'S LAWS INCREASE AS REVEALED IN HIS WORD THE HOLY BIBLE PROVIDES THE BEST AVENUE FOR PEACEFUL AND PROSPEROUS LIFE FOR EVERY PERSON. GOD SAYS IN DEUTERONOMY 27-25 THAT CURSED IS THE MAN THAT ACCEPTS THE BRIBE TO KILL AN INNOCENT PERSON. THERE'S NO INSINT PERSON THAN AN UNBORN CHILD. I BELIEVE 73% OF AMERICANS DO NOT SUPPORT WAX PAYER FUNDED ABORTION. WE AS TAXPAYERS DO NOT WANT TO BE FORCES TO BECOME COMPLICIT WITH SOMETHING THAT WE DO NOT AGREE WITH. GOD MAKES IT CLEAR THAT WE EMBRACE A CULTURE OF LIFE WE WILL LIVE IN PEACE AND PROSPERITY. WHEN WE CHOOSE A CULTURE OF DEATH, WE ARE PLACING OUR CURSE ON OUR PEOPLE AND PEOPLE AND LAND. I'M ASKING YOU TO LET THE PEOPLE OF THIS CITY, THE HOMELESS WOMEN AND CHILDREN THAT COULD REALLY USE THIS FUNDING. THANK YOU. >> LARRY FOLLOWED BY VIRGINIA ON ZOOM. >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCILOR BENTON, AND MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. OUT OF RESPECT FOR YOUR TIME. I WILL NOT REITERATE A LOT OF WHAT YOU HEARD. I DO WANT TO THANK COUNCILOR GROUT FOR BRINGING THIS RESOLUTION FORWARD. AND I ECHO JUST ONE PARTICULAR ISSUE I HEARD EARLIER. AS A LONG-TERM NEW MEXICAN, I WANT OUR STATE TO BE KNOWN FOR BEING COMPASSIONATE AND A GREAT PLACE TO LIVE. I DO NOT WANT US TO BE KNOWN AS THE ABORTION CAPITAL OF THE UNITED STATES. AND I WOULD URGE YOU TO USE OUR TAX DOLLARS FOR BARRETT HOUSE WHICH IS PROPOSED UNDER THE R-22-56. THANK YOU. >> MR. PRESIDENT, WE'LL SWITCH TO SPEAKERS ON ZOOM. FIRST IS VIRGINIA GONZALES FOLLOWED BY LORENZO GOMS. >> THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF R-22-46. THANK YOU, COUNCILOR GROUT FOR INTRODUCING THIS. I WANT TO START BY SAYING THAT WE LIVE IN A BEAUTIFUL COUNTRY. OUR CONSTITUTION SAYS THAT WE HAVE THERIGHT TO LIFE, LIBERTY AND PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS. I'VE HEARD MANY SPEAKERS TALK ABOUT HUMAN RIGHTS. THE RIGHT TO HOUSING, THE RIGHT TO HOMELESS, TO HAVE A PLACE TO LIVE. RIGHT TO HEALTH CARE. HOWEVER, I ALSO WANT TO ASK WHAT IS THE RIGHT OF AN UNBORN CHILD WHO HAS NO SAY THAT IS TRANSPORT IN A MOTHER'S WOMB WHO IS CHOOSING TO ABORT THAT LIFE BECAUSE IT'S INCONVENIENT OR IN THE QUASE -- CASE OF RAPE OR INVEST. I'M A BELIEVER IN THE LORD JESUS CHRIST AND HE SAID HE KNEW US BEFORE THE FOUNDATION OF THE EARTHED HE KNITTED US TOGETHER IN OUR MOTHER'S WOMB. ABORTION IS BARBARIC. I'M POST ABORTED. MY CHILD AT THE AGE OF 25 I TOOK TO ABORT. IT WAS A BLOB. I WENT TO WALK INTO THE ABORTION CLINIC, NOT A HEALTH CARE FACILITY WHERE THEY MURDER CHILDREN, THINKING MY LIFE WOULD RESET AND I WOULD BE ABLE TO GO BACK TO CALL SKWJ LIFE WOULD BE GOOD. I WALKED OUT OF THAT CLINIC AND I WAS NEVER THE SAME AGAIN. THANK YOU FOR CONSIDERING REAPPROPRIATING THESE FUNDS TO HOMELESS WOMEN AND CHILDREN. >> THANK YOU, VIRGINIA, YOUR TIME IS UP. >> THANK YOU. LORENZO FOLLOWED BY LISA. WE'RE HAVING TROUBLE HEARING YOU. I SEE THAT YOU'RE UNMUTED. WE'LL MOVE TO THE NEXT SPEAKER AND COME BACK TO YOU TO O SEE IF THE ISSUE HAS BEEN RESOLVED. LISA. >> YES, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I WANTED TO SPEAK TO THIS ISSUE BECAUSE I MYSELF HAVE BEEN A BENEFICIARY OF PLANNED PARENTHOOD SERVICES. JUST A LITTLE BIT OF INFORMATION WHEN I WAS IN COLLEGE I AGED OUT OF MY PARENT MEDICAL CARE AND I NEEDED BIRTH CONTROL TO CONTROL ALL THE THINGS GOING ON. I WAS UTILIZED PLANNED PARENTHOOD. THANK GOD FOR NEW MEXICO. I WANT TO SAY WE HAVE A SHORTAGE OF MEDICAL CARE PROVIDERS IN NEW MEXICO AND PLANNED PARENTHOOD DOES PROVIDE OTHER REPRODUCTIVE CARE. SO MORE RECENTLY, A FRIEND OF MINE FOUND OUT HER HUSBAND WAS CHEATING, AND SHE WAS CONCERNED ABOUT HER HEALTH. WE WERE NOT ABLE TO GET AN APPOINTMENT AT HER PRIMARY CARE POSITION. AND PLANNED PARENTHOOD WAS ABLE TO GET INTO. I DROVE HER THERE AND SUPPORTED HER THERE, SHE HAD THOSE STD TESTS. WE WENT BACK A COUPLE TIMES. PLANNED PARENTHOOD PROVIDES OR SERVICES. I'M CURIOUS WHY THIS CITY CANNOT AFFORD BOTH. I'M LOOKING AT THE BLOATED APD BUDGET. IS THERE NOT ROOM FOR BOTH THINGS TO SUPPORT WOMEN WHEN THAT KONT -- CANNOT AFFORD PRODUCTIVE CARE AND THOSE WHO ARE HOMELESS. CAN WE NOT AFFORD TO SUPPORT BOTH OF THESE? THIS IS MY QUESTION. THANK YOU. >> LORENZO GOMEZ. STILL CAN'T HEAR YOU, LORENZO. WE'LL GO TO ONE MORE SPEAKER AND TRY YOU AGAIN. SHELA BURRAN. >> CAN YOU HEAR ME? >> YES, WE CAN. PLEASE PROCEED. >> OKAY. THANK YOU. COUNCILOR GROUT, I WANT TO THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR PRESENTING THIS BILL. I AM IN FAVOR OF THIS $250,000 GOING TO THE BARRETT HOUSE. AND TO HELP FOR HELPLESS CHILDREN. I HIGHLY, HIGHLY RECOMMEND THAT YOUR CONSCIENCE, YOU WOULD LET GOD WORK WITH YOUR CONCHSANCE ON THIS BILL. I HEAR THESE LADIES STANDING UP AND SCREAMING MY BODY MY CHOICE, IT IS THEIR BODY, BUT WHEN IT COMES TO THEIR CHOICE, IT'S ACTUAL OUR CHOICE BECAUSE IT'S OUR DIME. IT'S OUR TAX DOLLAR. SO, I JUST WANT TO SAY I'M IN FAVOR OF THIS BILL. I THANK COUNCILOR GROUT. I JUST WANT TO SAY AT THE END THAT GENTLEMAN WHO SPOKE EARLIER THAT YOU'RE ONLY GIVING US TWO MINUTES, MAY I MAKE A RECOMMENDATION BECAUSE WE THE PEOPLE PUT YOU IN OFFICE AND TWO MINUTES IS NOT ENOUGH TIME. COULD YOU HAVE NOT HAVE TWO MEETINGS A MONTH OR HAVE A TIME WHERE THE PUBLIC IS ALLOWED TO TALK MORE THAN -- I'M NOT SAYING GIVE US 30 MINUTE PLATFORM, COULD YOU GIVE US MAYBE FOUR MINUTES OR SOMETHING. TWO MINUTES IS NOT ENOUGH TIME. THANK YOU. >> LORENZO GOMES. >> CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? >> YES, NOW WE CAN. PLEASE PROCEED. >> OKAY. HELLO, I ORGANIZE WITH THE PARTY FOR SOCIALISM. I'M STRONGLY AGAINST THIS REALLOCATION. THIS IS VERY DANGEROUS AND ADDS TO THE THE STRUGGLE PEOPLE IN ALBUQUERQUE ARE EXPERIENCING. RENT, IFFLATION, INADEQUATE HOUSING, AND HIGH GROCERY PRICES ARE HITTING POOR AND WORKING PEOPLE THE HARDEST. AND IN TIMES LIKE THESE IT'S ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY TO HAVE AMPLE ACCESSIBILITY TO HEALTH CARE, ESPECIALLY ACCESS TO ABORTION FOR THOSE WOO MAY NEED IT. PLANNED PARENTHOOD OFFERS ESSENTIAL SERVICES AND THEY MUST NOT ONLY BE FULLY FUNDED BUT HAVE INCREASED FUNDING. THE THREE ABORTION CLINIC ARE NOT ENOUGH FOR CITIZENS ALONE. ADD TO THOSE NEEDING MEDICAL CARE. THE TURNING OF ROE LEFT MANY TO VISIT NEW MEXICO FOR TREATMENT. WE NEED THOSE IN NEED OF HELP PAUSE THEIR GOVERNMENT FAILED THEM. HOUSING AND SOCIAL PROGRAMS NEED INCREASED FUNDING. PEOPLE ARE STRUGGLING AND THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE SHOULD HELP. THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE NEEDS TO SUFFICIENTLY FUND BOTH PLANNED PARENTHOOD AND HOUSING PROGRAMS TO WORK TOWARD SOLVING THE CURRENT HOUSING CRISIS. HUMAN RIGHTS ARE NOT SUPERSEDED BY BUREAUCRACY OR POLITICAL OR RELIGIOUS BELIEFS. >> THERE PRESIDENT, THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU. THANKS TO EVERYONE THAT SPOKE. WE WILL NOW MOVE TO COUNCIL QUESTIONS. COUNCILOR LEWIS. >>COUN. LEWIS: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. THERE'S, IN FACT I'VE SEEN AN AGREEMENT FOR THIS FUNDING WITH THE CITY AND WITH PLANNED PARENTHOOD OF ROCKY MOUNTAINS. MR. ROD, ALL YOU BE SIGNING THAT DOCUMENT AND GILBERT RAMIREZ AND JULIA ALVAREZ. I'M WONDERING IF THERE'S ANYBODY FROM PLANNED PARENTHOOD THAT IS WILLING -- OR IS JULIE ALVAREZ. IF NOT, THAT'S OKAY. I'M WONDERING IF THERE'S ANYONE RECEIVING THIS MONEY THAT WOULD BE WILLING TO COMMENT OR ASK QUESTIONS? NO? >> MR. PRESIDENT, IF I CAN ANSWER THAT. NO ONE WAS ASKED TO BE HERE. IF THERE'S QUESTION ABOUT THE CONTRACT, PLEASE ASK IT. WE HAVE CITY LEGAL AND CRIME HERE. -- I'M HERE. >>COUN. LEWIS: SURE. I'M SURE GILBERT IS HERE. THE AGREEMENT IS WITH PLANNED PARENTHOOD OF NEW MEXICO OR OF ROCKY MOUNTAINS. MR. RAEL, WOULD YOU DESCRIBE THE SCOPE OF IT? I'VE RAERD THE AGREEMENT. YOU DON'T HAVE TO DESCRIBE THE WHOLE THING. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR LEWIS -- >>COUN. LEWIS: THE SCOPE OF WHERE THE MONEY IS DIRECTED TO. >> MS. PIERCE CAN GIVE YOU THAT INFORMATION. >>COUN. LEWIS: OKAY. >> THANK YOU, COUNCILOR BENTON AND COUNCILOR LEWIS. YES DEPUTY RAMIREZ SIGNED THAT CONTRACT IN MY ABSENCE AS ACTING DIRECTOR. THE CONTRACT WITH PLANNED PARENTHOOD IS A SOCIAL SERVICE AGREEMENT. AND THE SERVICES DESCRIBED IN THERE ARE DESCRIBED A VARIETY OF WOMEN'S HEALTH ISSUE. WELLNESS VISITS, BREAST EXAMS, CANCER SCREENS FOR HPV AND PREVENTION, SEXUALLY TRANSMITTED INFECTION TESTING AND DIAGNOSIS. THAT INCLUDES A LOT OF PIECES RELATED TO WOMEN'S HEALTH. >>COUN. LEWIS: THE CONTRACT IS WITH PLANNED PARENTHOOD OF ROCKY MOUNTAINS. THAT'S THE LEGAL NAME. THE LEGAL NAME IS PLANNED PARENTHOOD OF NEW MEXICO. IT HAS THE ADDRESS OF SAN MATEO. I UNDERSTAND THAT CLINIC PERFORMS SURGICAL DISMEMBERMENT, ABORTION UP TO FIVE MONTHS GESTATION. I JUST WONDER IF YOU KNOW THE RELATIONSHIP TO ROCKY MOUNTAIN PLANNED PARENTHOOD, PLANNED PARENTHOOD OF NEW MEXICO. THAT ACTUALLY PERFORMS ABORTIONS AND YOU'RE UNDERSTANDING. ARE THESE DOLLARS THAT COULD GO TO THE -- GO TO WHAT ROCKY MOUNTAIN OF NEW MEXICO DOES? >> COUNCILOR BENTON, COUNCILOR LEWIS, I DON'T KNOW THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THOSE. I DO KNOW IN OUR SCOPE OF SERVICES AND WHAT WE'LL BE ASKING AND MONITORING IT DOES NOT STATE ANYTHING ABOUT ABORTION SERVICES. IT'S JUST THE PIECES I MENTIONED ABOUT WOMEN'S HEALTH AND SCREENING AND IMMUNIZATION. I DON'T KNOW THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THOSE TWO ORGANIZATIONS. I CAN LOOK INTO IT. >>COUN. LEWIS: SCREENINGS AT THAT LOCATION FOR PLANNED PARENTHOOD OF NEW MEXICO IN ALBUQUERQUE? >> YES, AS A WOMEN'S HEALTH CARE PROVIDER AND MEN TOO. THEY PROVIDE THOSE COMMON WOMEN'S HEALTH ISSUES THAT THEY'RE PROVIDING THAT WE HAVE DESCRIBED. >>COUN. LEWIS: SAME DOCTORS, SAME NURSES, SAME PEOPLE ARE AT THAT CLINIC THAT PERFORM ABORTIONS OR ALSO GIVING CONSULTATIONS TO WOMEN AS THEY COME? >> COUNCILOR LEWIS, COUNCILOR BENTON, TO BE ABSOLUTELY ACCURATE I DON'T KNOW. I CAN'T ANSWER THAT QUESTION. I DON'T KNOW. >>COUN. LEWIS: YOU WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO, IF WE'RE MONITORING THIS AGREEMENT, WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO TELL IF THOSE DOLLARS DID GO TO THE PERFORMING OF ABORTION OR NOT? >> COUNCILOR BENTON, COUNCILOR LEWIS, WHAT I WAS RESPONDING TO, I DON'T KNOW IF THE SAME PEOPLE THAT PROVIDE THE WOMEN'S HEALTH CARE ARE THE EXACT SAME PEOPLE PROVIDING ABORTIONS SERVICES. ABSOLUTELY, WE ASK WHAT THE SERVICES ARE BEING PROVIDED AND THAT'S PART OF THE MONITORING. >>COUN. LEWIS: LIKE I SAID THE LEGAL NAME IS ROCKY MOUNTAIN. THE OWNER IS PLANNED PARENTHOOD OF NEW MEXICO WHO OWNS THE CLINIC. THE CONSULTATION AND SURGERIES, THE ABORTIONS ARE PERFORMED ALL IN THAT SAME OWNER. SO, IT IS HARD TO UNDERSTAND AND HARD TO TELL WHETHER THE SCOPE OF THE AGREEMENT WOULD END UP -- LET ME ASK YOU THIS. DO YOU KNOW THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN ROCKY MOUNTAIN PLANNED PARENTHOOD OF NEW MEXICO AND PLANNED PARENTHOOD VOTES OR THE PLANNED PARENTHOOD ACTION FUND? >> COUNCILOR BENTON, COUNCILOR LEWIS, I DO NOT KNOW THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THOSE. >>COUN. LEWIS: THOSE ARE OTHER ENTITIES AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THEY'RE THE POLITICAL ARMS OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS AND I JUST WONDER IF SOME OF THESE MONIES WOULD GO TOWARD OR SUPPORT SOME OF THE POLITICAL EFFORTS OF SOME OF THESE GROUPS THAT ACTUALLY GIVE MONEY TO COUNCILORS AND VARIOUS POLITICAL CANDIDATES AND IF WE DON'T KNOW THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE OWNER WHERE THIS MONEY IS GOING TO, THE LEGAL NAME AND THE OTHER ENTITY THEY HAVE, HOW DO WE KNOW THESE DOLLARS AREN'T -- IT WOULD BE NICE IF THE PEOPLE OF PLANNED PARENTHOOD WOULD BE HERE. OR IF COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN HAD ANSWERS TO THIS AS WELL, BUT THERE'S A POLITICAL ARM. THERE'S A MEDICAL TECHNICIAN. THERE'S A LOT GOING HERE. I'M NOT SURE -- THE CONTRACT IS WITH THE EMBRELLA ORGANIZATION OR THE LEGAL NAME. BUT THE OWNERS OF THIS ORGANIZATION HAVE MULTIPLE DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. PLANNED PARENTHOOD VOTES IS A 501C4 THEY'RE A SEPARATE EPTY. PLANNED OF NEW MEXICO MERGED WITH PLANNED PARENTHOOD SEVERAL YEARS AGO, THAT'S THE SAME ORGANIZATION. THAT'S WHY THE MONEY IS GOING TO PLANNED PARENTHOOD. >>COUN. LEWIS: JUST TO WRAP UP, MR. PRESIDENT. MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT PLANNED PARENTHEAD OF NEW MEXICO, WHICH OWNS THE CLINIC AND THEY BRING IN ABOUT $4.7 MILLION OF REVENUE EVERY YEAR, SO MY QUESTION WOULD BE WHY DO THEY NEED $250,000 OF TAXPAYER DOLLARS? WHY DO THEY NEED -- WITH $4.7 MILLION COMING IN, WHY DO THEY NEED $250,000. MAYBE, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, MAYBE THAT IS A QUESTION FOR YOU. WHERE DID THIS COME FROM? DID THEY APPROACH YOU FOR THIS MONEY? THIS IS SOMETHING YOU'RE PASSIONATE ABOUT? THIS IS AN ORGANIZATION THAT HELPED YOU? I DON'T KNOW. I GUESS I JUST WONDER WHERE THIS ORERAGEINATED. AND WHY THE NEED FOR $250,000 WHEN AN ORGANIZATION LIKE THIS BRINGS IN SO MUCH MONEY? >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. LET ME START BY SAYING THAT I'M VERY SAD THAT IT WAS ONLY $250,000. I WOULD LOVE TO GIVE PLANNED PARENTHOOD WAY MORE MONEY. THEY DO AMAZING SERVICES FOR OUR COMMUNITY. I HAVE BEEN THEREWHEN I WAS IN COLLEGE. THEY'RE THE ONLY REASON THAT I HAD STD TESTING, CONTRACEPTION, BEST CANCER SCREENING. IT IS INSANE TO SAY $250,000 FOR THIS GREAT ORGANIZATION WON'T BE SPENT IN A REALLY GOOD MANNER. THE REASON IT CAME ABOUT IS BECAUSE I AM PRO-CHOICE. I AM A SUPPORTER OF PLANNED PARENTHOOD. PERIOD. AND I WAS HAPPY, PROUD TO SPONSOR THIS BUDGET AMENDMENT. I THINK THAT ANSWERS ALL THE QUESTIONS. >>COUN. LEWIS: THANK YOU FOR ANSWERING THAT. AND COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, YOU SPECIFICALLY SAID AND MADE STATEMENTS THAT YOU WANTED THIS AND SAID THIS FUNDING WOULD GO TO SUPPORT ABORTIONS. AND I WANTED TO -- THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO ASKING AND MAKE IT VERY CLEAR THAT THE AGREEMENT THAT WE HAVE WITH THIS ORGANIZATION, AT LEAST THE INTENTION BY THE SPONSOR, FOR IT TO SUPPORT ABORTIONS IN THE CITY. I SAID EARLIER, WHILE THERE WAS A STAT ABOUT THE MAJORITY OF AMERICANS BELIEVE THAT ABORTION SHOULD BE ALLOWED. 73% OF AMERICANS DO NOT WANT TAXPAYER DOLLARS TO GO TO SUPPORT ABORTION. I'M NOT ASKING YOU A QUESTION. AND IN THE LAST POINT I MAKE ON THIS, IT'S OKAY IF YOU WANT TO TALK, I DIDN'T MEAN -- THERE'S NO PRECEDENCE FOR THIS. OTHER ORGANIZATIONS OR THINGS WE'VE SPONSORED THROUGH THIS SPECIFIC SPONSORSHIP IN THE BUDGET, I DON'T SEE ANY PRECEDENT. THERE'S NOT PRECEDENCE OR SPECIFICALLY FOR FUNDING PLANNED PARENTHOOD AND FUNDING ABORTIONS IN THE CITY WITH TAXPAYER DOLLARS. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. >>COUN. BENTON: COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I HAVE QUITE A FEW THINGS TO SAY. A GENTLEMAN ASKED WHAT DO WE WANT TO BE KNOWN FOR. I WANT TO BE KNOWN AS A PLANNED PARENTHOOD SUPPORTER. I WANT TO BE KNOWN AS A NEW MEXICAN WHERE WE STILL VALUE WOMEN, RESPECT WOMEN, AND GIVE THEM ORALITY OVER THEIR OWN BODIES. THAT IS WHAT I WANT TO BE KNOWN FOR. I AM VERY PROUD TO BE AN ALBUQUERQUE RESIDENT AND TO HAVE THIS BUDGET AMENDMENT PASS THE CITY COUNCIL SO UNANIMOUSLY. WE HAD VERY LITTLE DISCUSSION BECAUSE THERE WASN'T MUCH TO TALK ABOUT. WE ALL AGREE THAT THE SERVICES THAT PLANNED PARENTHOOD PROVIDES NEW MEXICO AND ALBUQUERQUE RESIDENTS IS VITAL. ABORTION IS HEALTH CARE. PERIOD. LET ME GO ON TO SAY -- PLEASE DON'T. THIS IS REALLY SILLY PROPOSAL. LET ME SAY THIS CONTRACT IS ALREADY IN PLACE. PLANNED PARENTHOOD IS ALREADY DOING THESE SERVICES AND THEY WILL BE BILLING THESE CONTRACTS TO THE CITY ALREADY. NOW, I AM VERY SAD THAT THE CONTRACT DOES NOT SAY ABORTION. IT WAS VERY UPSETTING FOR ME THAT IT WAS NOT INCLUDED. I DID NOT HAVE CONTROL OVER WHAT THE CONTRACT SAID. THE CONTRACT DOES SAY VERY CLEARLY AND I BELIEVE DIRECTOR PIERCE SPELLED THIS OUT. BUT I WILL READ IT. TO BE CLEAR, HEALTH CARE SERVICES LIMITED TO WELLNESS VISITS, BREAST EXAMS, TELEHEALTH VISITS, HEALTH CENTER VISITS AND ANY FOLLOW UP OR TREATMENT AS NEEDED, CANCER SCREENING AND PREVENTION SERVICES, PROVISION OF BIRTH CONTROLLED AND TESTING FOR STD'S THOSE ARE THINGS MOST NORMAL PEOPLE SUPPORT. I HEARD FROM SOMEONE WHO IS SUPPORTING THIS BILL THAT SHE WENT TO PLANNED PARENTHOOD IN COLLEGE AND USED SOME OF THE SERVICES. IT SEEMS VERY STRANGE THAT WE HAVE THE CONVERSATION ABOUT REALLOCATING THESE FUNDS. I WANT TO MAKE A COUPLE MORE POINTS. I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH EVERYONE HERE WHO SAID IT IS UNCONCHINABLE TO PIT TWO NON-PROFITS THAT DO SUCH GOOD AGAINST EACH OTHER. HOW DARE WE SAY THAT WE CAN ONLY DO ONE THING. WE CAN ONLY HELP WOMEN WITH REPRODUCTIVE CARE OR WE CAN HELP HOMELESS PEOPLE. THAT IS INSANE. THE CITY CAN DO BOTH. AND WHEN YOU MAKE IT VERY CLEAR, IF SOMEONE HAD WANTED TO SUPPORT THE BARRETT HOUSE WITH SPONSORSHIP JUST LIKE I DID WITH PLANNED PARENTHOOD, THEY COULD HAVE. BUT NO ONE DID. IF SOMEBODY WANTED TO FIGHT AGAINST THIS MONEY IN THE BUDGET THEY COULD HAVE SAID SOMETHING WHEN WE HAD THIS ORIGINAL CONVERSATION, NO ONE DID. NOW, THAT THEY HAVE THEIR TALKINGPOINTS PROVIDED, NOW WE'RE HAVING THIS CONVERSATION. I THINK IT'S UNCONCHINABLE. AND BECAUSE OF THAT I HAVE AN AMENDMENT PROPOSED THAT DO WHAT WE ALL SAID TONIGHT. IT ALLOWS US TO CONTINUE VITAL WORK OF SUPPORTING PLANNED PARENTHOOD. IT ALSO ALLOCATES FUNDS TO THE BARRETT HOUSE. PLEASE PASS FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE. AND IT INCLUDES FUNDING FOR THE PROSPERITY PROJECT THAT WOULD REDUCE ENERGY BURDEN FOR THOSE LIVING IN LOW-INCOME SITUATIONS. I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO. IT'S ON PAGE ONE, LINE 18. STRIKE THE LINES APPROPRIATED TO AND REPLACE WITH ADJUSTED. AND ON PAGE ONE LINE 18 AFTER THE WORD PROGRAM, ADD THE FOLLOWING, FROM AVAILABLE FUND BALANCE. ON PAGE ONE, STRIKE LINES 22 THROUGH 26 AND REPLACE WITH THE FOLLOWING. FAMILY AND COMMUNITY SERVICE HOUSING. OF THE AMOUNT APPROPRIATED IN THIS PROGRAM, $100,000 DEZ NATDED FOR THE BARRETT HOUSE SHELTER. ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH DEPARTMENT, STRATEGIC SUPPORT, $100,000. OF THE MUMENT APPROPRIATED IN THIS PROGRAM, $100,000 FOR COMMUNITY ENERGY. BECAUSE WE CAN DO BOTH. I MOVE A DUE PASS. >>COUN. BENTON: IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND FROM COUNCILOR DAVIS. WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND. WE WILL CLEAR THE ROOM IF WE CONTINUE WITH THE OUTBURSTS. WE HAVE A LOT TO DO. PLEASE RESPECT THE COUNCIL AND OUR RULES IN THE CHAMBER. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: IF I MIGHT JUST MENTION I THINK I FORGOT TO MENTION THIS IS CO-SPONSORED BY COUNCILOR JONES AND COUNCILOR PEÑA. >>COUN. BENTON: OTHER COMMENTS ON THE AMENDMENT. SEEING NONE. AMENDMENT HAS BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. OPPOSED? >> THAT PASSED ON A 5 IN FAVOR, 4 AGAINST. >>COUN. BENTON: WE'RE BACK ON THE BILL AS AMENDED. AMENDMENTS NUMBER ONE AND TWO. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? COUNCILORS, WE'RE BACK ON THE BILL AS AMENDED. AND WE'RE MOVING FINAL VOTE. UNLESS THERE'S -- >>COUN. GROUT: I'D LIKE TO TABLE THIS BILL RIGHT NOW. MOTION TO TABLE. >>COUN. BENTON: IS THERE A SECOND? THERE'S NOT. THERE'S A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BENTON: THERE'S A MOTION AND SECOND TO TABLE THIS ITEM. AND I THINK THAT PROCEEDS, WE GO STRAIGHT TO THE VOTE. >> MR. PRESIDENT, THAT'S CORRECT. THE TABLE IS ONLY IT CAN BE TABLED FOR THE DURATION OF THIS MEETING. IF TABLING IS DESIRED THE COUNCIL SHOULD BE PREPARED TO TAKE THE BILL BACK UP BEFORE THE MEETING IS OVER. >>COUN. BENTON: ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: I HAVE A MOTION. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S CLEAR FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO TABLE A BILL THAT WOULD PROVIDE FUNDING FOR THE BARRETT HOUSE THAT WAS SO VERY IMPORTANT. SO, DON'T WORRY, IF THIS BILL DOES NOT PASS I'LL BRING SOMETHING BACK THAT PROVIDES ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR THE BARRETT HOUSE. I'M NOT INTERESTED IN A POLITICAL PLOY, I'M INTERESTED FOR THE CITIZENS OF ALBUQUERQUE. >>COUN. DAVIS: MR. PRESIDENT, JUST A POINT OF ORDER, I UNDERSTAND THE THE SPONSOR CAN WITHDRAW HERSELF AND ALLOW SOMEONE TO STEP IN AS SPONSOR. IF THE BILL TOOK A NEW FORM AND THAT DOES SOMETHING DIFFERENT. I THINK WE HAVE EVERYBODY HERE THAT WANTS TO SEE THE OUTCOME OF THIS. I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE A VOTE ON THIS BEFORE WE TAKE OUR BREAK. >>COUN. BENTON: COUNCILOR GROUT. >>COUN. PEÑA: CAN YOU PLEASE EXPLAIN WHAT THAT AMENDMENT DID? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR PEÑA, COUNCILOR GROUT, THE TRAJECTORY OF THE BILL WAS INTRODUCED WAS PROPOSING TO TAKE THE $250,000 THAT HAD BEEN APPROPRIATED TO PLANNED PARENTHEAD DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS AND REAPPROPRIATE IT TO THE BARRETT HOUSE AND YOUTH HOMELESS SHELTER. COUNCILOR GROUT PASSED AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE THAT CLARIFIED TECHNICAL APPROPRIATION LANGUAGE IN THE BILL. THE COUNCIL VOTED AND ON PASSED HELP TWO. WHICH LANGUAGE AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO SUPERSEDES AMENDMENT ONE, AND REPLACE THE SOURCE OF THE FUND FROM FUNDS THAT WERE ALLOCATED TO PLANNED PARENTHOOD TO FUNDS IN THE RESERVE FOR THE CITY AND APPROPRIATE THOSE TO THE PLACES IN THE BILL INCLUDING BARRETT HOUSE AND PROSTEAR TEA WORK. THE BILL FOR FINAL ACTION WOULD LEAVE UNHARMED THE FUNDING THAT WAS PROPOSED TO PLANNED PARENT SHOULD AND APPROPRIATE $100,000 TO BARRETT HOUSE AND PROSTERITY WORKS AND OTHER FUNDS. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BENTON: THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND ON -- COUNCILOR PEÑA. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. HEARING ALL THE DISCUSSION, I JUST WANT EVERYONE TO KNOW THERE'S NINE DIFFERENT COUNCILORS ON THIS BOARD. AND WE HAVE A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE. AND I REALLY WANT TO TALK ABOUT MINE WITH THE PLANNED PARENTHOOD IS I DON'T SEE IT AS BEING SO CONESSENTIALS. THIS IS A REALLY DEFALITY DIFFICULT VOTE. WHEN WE'RE TALKING UNT SOMETHING THAT IS SO DIVISIVE. AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE CONTRACT AND EVERYTHING WE'RE DOING TODAY AND TALKS ABOUT ABORTION ARE NOT ABORTION. OUR CONTRACT WITH THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE IS WOMEN'S HEALTH. IT HELPS MOSTLY THE ECONOMICALLY DISADVANTAGED IN THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE. AND FOR THOSE REASONS I CAN'T SUPPORT COUNCILOR GROUT'S RESOLUTION. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. >>COUN. LEWIS: MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT'S BILL IS STRAIGHTFORWARD. THERE'S NOTHING SNEAKY GOING ON. WE ALL SUPPORT THE BARRETT HOUSE AND THERE COULD BEEN ANOTHER THING CHOSEN FOR THAT. THERE'S PEOPLE ON THIS COUNCIL THAT DON'T THE FUNDING GOING TO PLANNED PARENTHOOD. SO, LOOK, THIS BILL IS ALREADY CHANGED DRASTICALLY. LET'S GIVE THIS SPONSOR SOME TIME TO THINK ABOUT IT. COME BACK AFTER DINNER AND WE'LL TAKE UP THEN. THAT'S WHY THE MOTION FOR THE TABLE. >>COUN. BENTON: THERE'S A MOTION TO TABLE. I THINK WE CLARIFIED WHERE WE STAND WITH THIS. WE NEED TO GO TO A VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE TABLING OF THE MOTION SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. OPPOSED? THAT MOTION FAILS. WE'RE ON THE BILL AS AMENDED. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? >>COUN. GROUT: SO, WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IF R-22-46 FAILS IN THIS AMENDMENT TOO ALSO GOES AWAY? IS THAT CORRECT? IT'S ALL GONE? >>COUN. BENTON: WE'RE BACK ON THE BILL AS AMENDED. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE BILL AS AMENDED SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. IN FAVOR OF THE BILL AS AMENDED SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. OPPOSED, AND THAT MOTION FAILS. AND WE'LL NOW GO TO -- EXCUSE ME. THE MOTION TO -- FOR THE BILL PASSES. AND THE BILL IS PASED AS AMENDED WITH THE THIRD AMENDMENT. WE'LL NOW GO TO A DINNER BREAK. >>COUN. BENTON: COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, R-56 IS ESTABLISHING MORATORIUM FOR SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES FOR A PERIOD OF MONTHS UNTIL THE INTEGRATED DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE IS AMENDED. WHICHEVER OCCURS FIRST. >>COUN. BENTON: SECOND FROM COUNCILOR GROUT. THANK YOU. COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, THERE'S AN AMENDMENT, HOWEVER I BELIEVE IT'S COUNCILOR LEWIS'S. I DON'T KNOW. THERE HE IS. I'LL LET HIM MOVE HIS AMENDMENT. >>COUN. BENTON: COUNCILOR LEWIS. >>COUN. LEWIS: I MOVE THE AMENDMENT. >>COUN. BENTON: CAN WE GET A COPY OF THAT? >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR LEWIS, IF YOU WANT -- >>COUN. BENTON: WE HAVE IT UP ON THE SCREEN. THIS IS FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE. >>COUN. LEWIS: THANK YOU. MR. PRESIDENT, I MOVE AMENDMENT TO R-22-56. ON PAGE TWO, BEGINNING ONLINE SIX, SECTION ONE LAND USE APPLICATION APPROVAL OF THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE SHALL NOT ACCEPT OR APPROVE ANY PENDING BUILDING PERMITS OR LAND USE APPLICATION FOR SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES UNTIL AUGUST 21, 2023 OR FINAL ACTION BY CITY COUNCIL. AFTER WHICH TIME THE CITY SHALL TAKE NO ACTION INCONSISTENT WITH BILL O-22-33. AND SECTION TWO, CITY PROPERTY. CITY SHALL NOT AUTHORIZE ON CITY PROPERTY SHALL HALT PENDING REVIEW. FOR THIS PURPOSE, SHALL NOT ENTER INTO NEW LEASE OR OTHER AGREEMENT FOR THE PURPOSE DURING THE DURATION OF THIS MORATORIUM. >>COUN. BENTON: THERE'S A MOTION, DID WE GET A SECOND? SECOND FROM COUNCILOR BASSAN. I WANT TO ASK ABOUT THIS BECAUSE I HAD ALWAYS BEEN UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT ANY ABSENCE OF A BILL HAVING BEEN PASSED THE APPLICATION HAS BEEN THEY THAT THOSE TYPICALLY GO FORWARD. CAN STAFF OR ADMINISTRATION HELP WITH THAT? >> MR. PRESIDENT, IN THE PAST WHEN THE CITY COUNCIL HAS CONTEMPLATED MORATORIUM OR REGULATIONS, IT IS GENERALLY FAVORED LEAVING PENDING APPLICATIONS UNIMPACTED. HOWEVER, THERE ARE INSTANCES IN THE PAST WHERE THE COUNCIL HAS CHOSE TO APPLY MORATORIUM OR REGULATIONS TO PENDING APPLICATIONS. GENERALLY, THE CITY WOULD HAVE AUTHORITY TO EXERCISE ITS AUTHORITY TO DO MORATORIUM ON APPLICATIONS AT ANY PERIOD BEFORE THEY LEFT THE DOOR FOR FINAL COMPLETION. AT WHICH POINT AN APPLICANT WOULD HAVE A RIGHT TO CONTINUE WITH THE APPROVED REQUEST. IT'S -- WITHIN THE COUNCIL DISCRETION TO WHERE THEY WANT TO PUT THE POINT AND TIME FOR THE MORATORIUM TO APPLY. INSTANCES WE'VE SEEN IN THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS IS COUNCIL CHOSEN TO LEAVE PENDING APPLICATIONS UNHARMED. THIS PARTICULAR BILL WOULD IMPACT PENDING APPLICATIONS. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU. >>COUN. LEWIS: MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE CURRENT PROPOSAL THAT WAS APPROVED AND HAD TO GET A LICENSE AGREEMENT, I BELIEVE THAT'S HAPPENED. THAT PROPOSAL WOULD STILL NEED TO COMPLY WITH THE IDO. THERE REALLY STILL IS A PENDING APPROVAL WHERE THE DEPARTMENT WHERE THE PLANNING HAVE TO VERIFY THAT THE GROUP HAS MET THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE IDO WHICH ARE LAID OUT ON WHAT A PROPERTY NEEDED TO LOOK LIKE AND DO IN ORDER TO GAIN OCCUPANCY. IT'S NOT TYPICAL OCCUPANCY, BUT A SIMILAR TYPE OF APPROVAL. CORRECT? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR LEWIS, SO I THINK AS ALLUDED TO BY DIRECTOR BARELA, DIFFERENT APPROVALS COME WITH DIFFERENT FOLLOW UP AND REVIEW. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING BASED ON THE NATURE OF THE SORS -- SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES USE, IT DOESN'T NEED INSPECTION, THE CITY MAY NOT ANTICIPATE ADDITIONAL INSPECTS FOR SOME OF THE APPROVED APPLICATION. THE MEDIA REPORTED THAT ONE APPLICATION HAS BEEN APPROVED ON MENAUL. WE DID RECEIVE INFORMATION TODAY THAT APPLICATION HAS BEEN APPEALED AND WILL BE PENDING APPEAL TO THIS BODY AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE. BECAUSE OF THAT PENDING APPEAL THAT APPLICATION IS NOT FINAL. >>COUN. LEWIS: BY NOT FINAL, HOW WOULD YOU DEFINE THE APPLICATION IS NOT FINAL? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR LEWIS, WHEN A PLANNING APPROVAL IS ISSUED, THAT APPROVAL IS VALID UPON ITS ISSUANCE. HOWEVER THE IDO CONTEMPLATES THERE'S A WINDOW TIME WITHIN WHICH A PERSON WITHSTANDING MAY APPEAL THAT DECISION. GENERALLY, COMPLETE FINALITY DOESN'T OCCUR UNTIL ALL OPPORTUNITIES FOR APPEAL HAVE BEEN EX-PRIORED -- EXPIRED. FOR THAT REASON, THE CITY HAS NOT GIVE IN FINAL APPROVAL. GIVEN THE OUTCOME OF THE APPEAL. >>COUN. LEWIS: HOW LONG DOES THE APPEAL PROCESS USUALLY TAKE? >> THE APPEAL PROCESS IS TRIGGERED BY AN APPLICATION FOR APPEAL THAT IS TRANSMITTED BY THE PLANNER DEPARTMENT OVER TO THE CITY COUNCIL SERVICES OFFICE. WE SCHEDULE THAT APPEAL WITH THE LAND USE HEARING OFFICER. IT USUALLY HAPPENS WITHIN A COUPLE WEEKS. THE LAND USE HEARING OFFICER HAS TEN DAYS TO ISSUE DECISION AFTER A HEARING. WHEN THAT COMES TO COUNSEL, IT SCHEDULES AT THE NEXT REGULAR MEETING. THAT TIMELINE RESULTS IN THREE TO FIVER WEEKS BEFORE IT GETS TO COUNCIL FOR ANYTHING FINAL. THAT IS ASSUMING THERE'S NOT REMANDS IN THE PROCESS THAT COULD DRAG IT OUT A BIT. >>COUN. BENTON: WE'RE BACK ON THE AMENDMENT. THIS WOULD BE AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE. ANY MORE DISCUSSION ON AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE? SEEING NONE, ALL THOSE IN FAVORER SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. OPPOSED? THAT PASSES. AS AMENDED, WE'RE BACK ON THE BILL. IS THERE ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? WE HAVE A NUMBER OF PEOPLE SIGNED UP. >> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. OUR FIRST SPEAKER IS TONY, FOLLOWED BY JULIA. >> THANK YOU, I WANTED TO DROP THE PETITION TO SIGNATURES. I WANTED TO SEE THE SIGNATURES OF PEOPLE IN THE PARK AND OTHER PLACES IN THE MENTIONED PETITION THAT CALLS FOR THE PAUSE ON CLOSING CORONADO PARK AND ALSO THE CALLS FOR SANCTION ENCAMPMENT. HERE ARE THE ACTUAL SIGNATURES. I'M THE PROGRAM DIRECTOR FOR HOMELESS ASSISTANCE WITH THE NEW MEXICO COALITION TO END HOMELESSNESS. WE OPPOSE THE MORATORIUM ON SANCTION ENCAMPMENTS. WE NEED MANY STRATEGIES TO KRAESZ -- ADDRESS HOMELESSNESS. WE HAVE A MOTTO IN THIS STATE, AND THAT'S THE COMMUNITY OF HOPE'S CAMP HOPE. WE SHOULD EMULATE THAT IN ALBUQUERQUE. AS ONE IMMEDIATE STEP WE CAN TAKE TO HUMANIZE PEOPLE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS BY GIVING THEM A SAFE PLACE TO SLEEP WHERE THEY WON'T BE CRIMINALIZED. SPENDING TIME AT CORONADO PARK, I ENCOURAGE YOU TO DO THAT. HEAR STOR AFTER STORY OF BEING KICKED OUT OF PLACE AFTER PLACE AFTER PLACE. IF WE KICK THEM OUT OF CORONADO PARK, WHERE THEY GOING TO GO? PLEASE, DO THE RIGHT THING. THANK YOU. >> JULIA FOLLOWED BY FRANCHESCO. >> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I'M A MEMBER AND RESIDENT OF WEST MOST MOSTA THERE'S A PETITION OF OVER 200 PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT IN FAVOR OF THE SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES. WE'RE NOT DENYING THERE'S AN ISSUE, BUT THE CURRENT LAND IT WAS PROPOSED ON IS RIGHT NEXT TO RESIDENTIAL HOMES AND ACCORD TO THE RULES OF THE SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES LAND, THERE WOULD BE ABOUT SIX PORTABLE TOILETS RIGHT NEXT TO HOMES AND IT ALSO TWO BLOCKS FROM LAVA LAND ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. IT IS ALSO NEAR A DAY CARE. A LOT OF RESIDENTS ARE CONCERNED ABOUT CHILDREN. I'M A FORMER SOCIAL WORKER WITH CATHOLIC COMMUNITY SERVICES AND I DEALT WITH HOMELESS POPULATIONS. I UNDERSTAND THE ISSUE. WEST MESA HAS A LOT OF SOLUTIONS AND OUR RESIDENTS LIKE TO GET ON THE SOLUTIONS. WE THANK YOU FOR REVIEWING THAT APPLICATION. >>COUN. PEÑA: IF YOU GO ONLINE, IT LOOKS LIKE THE ONE IN PAT HURLEY, LAVA LAND WAS DENIED. >> GREAT. THANK YOU. >> MR. PRESIDENT, IF I MAY, JUST GIVE GUIDANCE TO THE COUNCIL AND TO THE SPEAKERS. WE -- UNDERSTANDING WAS DENIED. THAT APPEAL PERIOD IS A MATTER THAT COULD BE APPEALED TO THE CITY COUNCIL. I URGE THE AUDIENCE MEMBER THAT WILL ADDRESS SPECIFICS ONES TO TALK GENERALLY ABOUT THE POLICY AS OPPOSED TO THE FACT OF ANY PARTICULAR PENDING APPLICATION. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU. >> FRANCHESCO. >> DUE TO A KNOWN LOOPHOLE THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN CLOSED PRIOR TO ENACTING ANY SAFE SPACE LEGISLATION I HAVE AN ENCAMPMENT OPENING UP NEXT TO MY HOUSE AS WE SPEAK. IT IS A GIVEN, WE ALL CAN'T SEE THE THINGS THROUGH THE SAME LENS ON ALL TOPICS. I ENCOURAGE THOSE THAT FEEL BUILDING SAFE SPACES FIRST AND FIGURING OUT HOW WE MAKE THEM WORK LATER ON TO PUT THEIR MONEY WHERE THEIR MOUTH IS. THOSE WHO VOTED YES ON SAFE SPACES AND VOTE NO ON THIS MORATORIUM, LET'S BUILD ONE NEXT DOOR TO YOUR HOUSE AND THEN TALK ABOUT BUILDING ONE NEXT TO MINE. THOSE OF YOU IN THE MAYOR'S ADMINISTRATION WHO SWEAR THIS WILL WORK OUT LIKE ART PROJECT, TINY HOME VILLAGE, LET'S BUILD ONE NEXT DO TO YOUR HOUSE AND GAMBLE WITH THE WELL BEING OF YOUR FAMILY AND FRIENDS THEN TALK ABOUT BUILDING ONE NEXT DO TO US. THOSE IN PLANNING AND CODE ENFORCEMENT APPROVING THIS AGAINST IDO MANDATES WITHOUT PROPER NOTICE ARE DIRECTLY AFFECTED BY THESE SANCTIONED ENCAMPMENTS. LET'S BUILD ONE NEXT TO YOUR HOME FIRST. THOSE OF YOU LIVING IN RIO RANCHO I ENCOURAGE YOU TO PUT YOUR LIFE SAVINGS INTO ALBUQUERQUE LIKE I HAVE AND BUILD A HOMELESS SHELTER NEXT TO YOUR HOME. THEN WE CAN TALK ABOUT BUILDING ONE NEXT DOOR. >> ANNETTE FOLLOWED BY HELEN. >> HELLO, AGAIN. THANK YOU FOR HAVING US SPEAK THIS LATE. I AM FOR THE RESOLUTION, R-22-56 SET UP BY COUNCILOR BASSAN. THANK YOU SO MUCH. I DO HAVE SOME EXPERIENCE IN HOUSING WITH ALBUQUERQUE. AND IT WAS HELPFUL TO HAVE THAT ASSISTANCE FOR THAT SHORT TIME. AND UNTIL I GOT ON MY FEET WITH MY FIRST TWO CHILDREN BEING A SINGLE MOM. AND WHAT IT WAS WAS IT WAS A HAMMOCK. IT WASN'T A HOUSE. SO, WE WERE ABLE TO USE THAT ASSISTANCE AND BUILD A HOUSE. FROM THERE, WHAT WE DID WAS I BECAME A LANDLORD MYSELF. AND WENT TO SCHOOL AND GOT A PROFESSION. I SEE TOO MUCH OF -- I ALSO HAD A FATHER WHO WAS MENTALLY ILL, PARANOID SCHIZOPHRENIC AND BIPOLAR. WE WERE IN AND OUT OF THE MARBLE HOSPITAL. AND HE WANTED TO BE HOMELESS AT TIMES BECAUSE OF IT. THOSE PEOPLE DON'T NEED TO BE IN CIVILIZATION PER SE LIVING. I UNDERSTAND THERE IS AN ISSUE, BUT IT IS MENTAL HEALTH AND ALSO SPIRITUAL. I BELIEVE WE NEED TO BE ASSESSING THE OVERALL SOLUTION NOT JUST PUTTING A BAND-AID ON IT AND CREATING A CULTURE OF THIS OPPRESSION AND DISEASE. THANK YOU. >> HELLEN FOLLOWED BY LORETTA. >> GOOD EVENING, MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCIL MEMBERS. I UNDERSTAND THAT THE ENCAMPMENT HAS BEEN DENIED. I REALLY WANT YOU GUYS TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE SAFETY OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND BECAUSE MOST OF THE FAMILIES HAVE LIVED THERE FOR OVER 50 YEARS. WE'RE VERY CONCERNED AND WE'RE AFRAID THAT THIS ENCAMPMENT WILL ONLY BRING A SENSE OF CRIME AND SECURITY -- >> MR. PRESIDENT. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I APOLOGIZE TO THE SPEAKER. TO CLARIFY FOR THE COUNCIL, IT'S TRICKY AT THIS POINT BECAUSE YOU HAVE AN OBLIGATION -- TWO OBLIGATIONS. ONE TO UNDERSTAND THE POLICY INTEREST OF THE PUBLIC AND WHAT YOU CHOOSE TO DO. BUT ALSO TO PRESERVE THE DUE PROCESS OF THE PARTIES INVOLVED IN EACH APPLICATION BEFORE THE CITY. THE SPEAKER IS SPEAKING SPECIFICALLY ABOUT AN APPLICATION DENIED OR IN THE APPEAL PERIOD. WE NEED TO BE CAUTIOUS ABOUT IT. I CAUTION THE SPEAKER, TO REPHRASE HER STATEMENTS MORE GENERALLIRYILATED TO WHATEVER OBJECTION SHE HAS POLICY WISE ABOUT SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES. BUT TO THE EXTENT SHE FOCUSES ON A PARTICULAR SITE IT COULD RAISE SOME ISSUES RELATED TO THE PROCESS. YOU MAY BE REQUIRED TO GO DOWN LATER NAN -- IN AN APPEAL. >>COUN. BENTON: DID YOU UNDERSTAND THAT? SPEAK IN GENERAL TERMS AS OPPOSED TO SPECIFIC APPLICATION. >> I WANT THEM TO CONSIDER, THERE'S AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. >>COUN. BENTON: WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HALT YOUR TESTIMONY. WE HAVE A CONCERN. >> I LIVE 25 FEET AWAY FROM THIS. WOULD YOU LIKE TO LIVE LIKE THAT? JUST LIKE THE GENTLEMAN SAID, WHEN WE CAN PUT ONEN IN YOUR FRONT YARD AND YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT. THAT'S HOW I FEEL. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER. LORETTA LOPEZ, FOLLOWED BY MICHAEL KREIGER. >>COUN. BENTON: LET ME SOME CLARITY. SIMILARLY, ANY SPECIFIC SITE IS UNDER CONSIDERATION. >> MR. PRESIDENT -- >>COUN. BENTON: I THINK THAT'S FINE IF YOU KEEP IN GENERAL TERMS. >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCILOR BENTON, AND COUNCIL. I'M THE PRESIDENT OF SANTA BARBARA MARTINEZ TOWN NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND WE SUPPORT THE RESOLUTION. MARTINEZ TOWN HISTORIC RESIDENTIAL AREA IS BOUNDED BY MENAUL BY I-25, SOUTH RAILROAD TRACKS AND WEST RAILROAD TRACKS. AND THE SOUTH IS LOMAS. EXPERIENCE OF THESE HAS SHOWN NEIGHBORHOODS AND BUSINESSES THAT SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES WILL BE A NUISANCE. HAD OVER THE NEIGHBORHOOD, STREETS AND SIDEWALKS TENTS ARE SET UP. HOMELESS THROW TRASH, PARKS ARE DESTROYED. THE PICNIC TABLEERIZE BURDEN OR DESTROYED. GARBAGE CANS ARE BURNT. NEIGHBORS HAVE MOVED OUT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD DUE TO FEAR FROM HOMELESS ENTERING THEIR YARDS. ONE NEIGHBOR WAS ASSAULTED WHILE PURCHASE GAS AND OTHERS HAVE HOMELESS ENTERED INTO HOME. DWELLINGS HAVE BEEN BURNT. AND WINDOWS HAVE BEEN BROKEN AT THE CHURCH. THE WAS A BREAK IN AND ITEMS STOLEN. MARTINEZ TOWN CONTINUES TO BE NEGLECTED BY THE CITY IN ORDER TO PROTECT MARTINEZ TOWN NEIGHBORHOOD, THE CITY IS REQUIRED BY LAW TO ZONE HISTORICAL RESIDENTIAL LAND USE. THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE NEEDS TO STOP THE RACIST DISCRIMINATION AGAINST MARTINEZ TOWN. THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE HAS THROWN THIS ISSUE DOWN OUR THROAT WITHOUT MEETING WITH US. THE CITY COUNCIL AND MAYOR NEED TO STOP THE CONCENTRATIONS OF PROGRAMS AND SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES IN THE MARTINEZ TOWN NEIGHBORHOOD AND SURROUNDING AREAS. THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. AND I APPRECIATE THAT -- >> MICHAEL FOLLOWED BY CARLA. >> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. COUNCIL MEMBERS, I AM APPRECIATIVE THAT THE MORATORIUM R-22-56 HAS PASSED. AND EARLIER, THIS HAS BEEN QUITE A CIVICS LESSON. I'M GRATEFUL. IF THERE IS PRECARIOUSLY HOUSED CITIZENS, BEHAVIORAL ISSUES, YOU HAVE YOUR HANDS TIED AS FAR AS RENT CONTROL. WHO CAN UNTIE YOUR HANDS? BECAUSE IT SEEMS TO BE A SELF-FULFILLING PROPHECY THAT ONE IS FEEDING THE OTHER. PEOPLE ARE DRIVEN TO DESPERATION. AND I UNDERSTAND IT'S VERY COMPELLING. IT'S VERY NOBLE. AND I HAVEN'T REALLY HEARD ANY PARTICULAR SOLUTION. AND I KNOW, WE CAN PUT OUR HEADS TOGETHER AND COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT IS MORE APPROPRIATE, MORE SAFE, AND EVERYONE COULD AGREE ON. I'M VERY GRATEFUL FOR THE OPPORTUNITIES. THANK YOU. >> CARLA, FOLLOWED BY REBECCA. >> GOOD EVENING, PRESIDENT AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION. I APOLOGIZE, CARLA WAS NOT ABLE TO BE HERE BUT YOU'RE STUCK WITH ME. I'M SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF HER OF PRESIDENT OF THE THE NOOUK -- NEW MEXICO BUSINESS COLLINGS. -- COALITION. WE APPRECIATE THIS IS A TOUGH SITUATION. YOU'RE NOT ALONE. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S GOING ON, WHETHER IT'S LAS CRUCES OR SANTA FE IS THERE A LOT OF ATTENTION BEING GENERATED. I THINK YOU WOULD AGREE THAT IN THE LAST SIX TO EIGHT MONTHS THE ISSUE OF HOMELESS CAMPS HAS GENERATED MORE THAN THE AVERAGE AMOUNT OF INTEREST. SANTA FE CITY COUNCIL JUST RECENTLY BACKTRACKED. THEY PLANNED TO PUT A HOMELESS CAMP AT A PARTICULAR LOKIEGZ -- LOCATION IN SANTA FE. THEY HEARD FROM A GREAT DEAL OF CONSTITUENTS. IT'S NOT OVER, TLOOR I HAVE A LETTER FROM THE BUSINESS COALITION. I WON'T READ IT TO YOU. BUD I'D LIKE TO HAVE IT ENTERED INTO YOUR RECORD. IT ADDRESSES THE FACT THAT OVER 2,000 CONCERNED RESIDENTS HAVE SENT EMAILS OR SIGNED PETITIONS ASKING YOU TO STOP THE PROCESS THAT IS UNDERWAY. WE COMPLETELY ENCOURAGE YOU TO SUPPORT R-22-56. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE THESE COMMENTS. >> REBECCA ARMIJO, FOLLOWED BY AARON FRAZIER. >> GOOD EVENING, AGAIN. THANK YOU FOR HEARING US AND LISTENING TO US. AND I AM ASKING FOR SUPPORT FOR THE R-22-56. RESOLUTION. I HAVE A LOT OF CONCERNS. FOR THOSE KIND OF ENCAMPMENTS AROUND THE CITY. LARGE CONCERN FOR DRUG USE. FOR INCREASED CRIME. LARGE CLEAN-UP. THAT THESE WOULD ENTAIL. MORE IMPORTANTLY, THE SOCIAL SERVICES THAT THESE PEOPLE IN THE ENCAMPMENTS NEED. IT'S NOT NECESSARILY THE CAMP. THEY NEED THE SERVICES. THERE ARE TONS OF FACILITIES AND SERVICES AVAILABLE IN ALBUQUERQUE WHEN WE HAVE HOMELESS SHELTERS THAT HAVE HUNDREDS OF BEDS THAT ARE OPEN EVERY SINGLE NIGHT. THE GATEWAY CENTER THAT ISN'T QUITE OPEN YET, BUT HAS BEEN BOUGHT BY THE CITY. THE TINY HOUSE VILLAGE THAT OUT OF 30 HOMES HAS TWO OCCUPIED. THERE'S LOTS OF AVAILABILITY. WHY ARE WE CONTINUING TO THROW MORE MONEY? OUR TAX DOLLARS HAVE ALREADY GONE TO SOME OF THESE THINGS. I GUESS I'M JUST CONFUSED AS TO WHY WE NEED THEM WHEN WE ALREADY HAVE SO MANY FACILITIES AVAILABLE THAT COULD BE OF BIG HELP. THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. >> AARON FRAZIER. >> THANK YOU. NEVER DONE THIS BEFORE. I'M GOING TO SAY A LITTLE BIT ABOUT ME. I WAS HOMELESS. CURRENTLY, I'M ONE OF THE TOP ACCOUNTING STUDENTS. MASTERS OF ACCOUNTING AT UNM. I GRADUATED FROM MY UNDER GRAD AND ENDED UP HOMELESS. IT'S VERY EMOTIONAL FOR ME. IF I HAD A SAFE PLACE TO PARK. I ALMOST DIED SEVERAL TIMES AND WHAT SAVORED ME WAS MY CAR. I KNOW THE -- [ INAUDIBLE ]. I HAD NO IDEA WHEN I STARTED TO GO TO UNM THAT THERE WAS SO MANY HOMELESS PEOPLE. IT BREAKS MY HEART TO SEE THEM CLEARED OUT OF CORONADO PARK. TO THOSE THAT USE THE THEY WHEN DESCRIBING THE HOMELESS. TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHERE TO SLEEP FOR THE NEXT MONTH. WHERE TO SHOWER. WHERE TO GO TO THE BATHROOM. HOW TO APPLY FOR JOBS. HOW TO APPLY FOR JOBS WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO ELECTRICITY OR PHONE OR COMPUTER. OR A SHOWER. HOW TO NOT -- I WAS ALMOST SEX TRAFFICKED. I WAS ALMOST SOLD INTO SEX SLAVERY. PEOPLE WOULD TRY TO BEAT ME UP. I SHELTERS -- SHELTERS ARE NOT A GOOD DEAL. THEY'RE NOT SAFE. SOMEWHERE YOU HAVE TO LEAVE EVERY MORNING IS NOT THE WAY. >>COUN. BENTON: MADAM FRAZIER. I'LL GIVE YOU TIME FOR GETTING CHOKED UP. IF YOU HAVE ANOTHER SENTENCE OR TWO. >> I WISH I WAS MAKING THIS UP. AND THEN, TRY TO GET INTO GRAD WOULD -- AND BE ONE OF THE TOP STUDENT. I ENDED UP BEING HOMELESS BECAUSE I REFUSED TO SIGNED OFF AS ACCOUNTANT ON ILLEGAL STUFF. I WAS PROUD TO BE HOMELESS FOR THAT REASON. THANK YOU. >> JOHN HENDRY FOLLOWED BY VERNEN GEORGE. >> TAKING COUNCIL'S ADVICE, I'M NOT GOING TO BE SPECIFIC. BUT CAN I ASK WHEN WE DISCOVER THAT A SAFE SPACE IS GOING TO MOVE IN LITERALLY NEXT DOOR TO A BUSINESS, WE HAVE ASSOCIATED WITH, WHEN WE HEAR THIS FROM THE PRESS WHEN KRQE SHOWS UP IN YOUR BUSINESS YOU'RE IN TROUBLE. THEY TELL US THAT SOMEBODY IS GOING TO PUT A SAFE SPACE RIGHT NEXT TO THERE IN OUR PARKING LOT THEN I'M THINKING THE SYSTEM HAS SOME FLAWS BECAUSE THIS IS THE FIRST WE'VE HEARD IT. HAVING ASSURED THE PERMIT HAS NOT MOVED PAST THE POINT TO GET TOEN APPEAL. IT GOES TO THE WEBSITE. IT SHOWS THERE'S A WEBSITE AND IT MAKES ME NERVOUS. I JUST ASK, THINK ABOUT THE POSSIBILITIES. THE PART OF THE CITY WE'RE IN, WHICH IS IN SOUTH BROADWAY. COME DOWN AND SEE WHAT'S GOING ON. THERE'S LOT OF GREAT THINGS GOING ON. WHEN YOU OPEN THE SUNSORT OFFRAMP IT'S GOING TO GET BETTER. I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS PLANNING AND WHOEVER I NEED TO BEFORE IT COMES TO YOU TO EXPLAIN WHAT WE THINK IS A BAD IDEA. THAT'S ALL WE'RE ASKING. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BENTON: COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, I WAS HOPING MS. SCHULTZ CAN BE IN CONTACT WITH HIM AND MAKING SURE HE'S AWARE OF HIS OPTIONS AND WE'RE AWARE FOLLOWING OUR PROCEDURES THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE TO ADVOCATE. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR BASSAN, I'LL SPEAK TO HIM RIGHT NOW AND GET CONDUCT INFORMATION TO FOEL UP. -- FOLLOW UP. >> VERNEN GEORGE, FOLLOWED BY BRIAN CHI. BRIAN CHI, FOLLOWED BY BRENDA KAIZER. BRENDA KAIZER FOLLOWED BY GILBERT SPEAKPEN. GILBERT SPEAKMAN, FOLLOWED BY LIDDIA DAUGHTRY. >> I'M GILBERT, I WAS BORN AND RAISED IN MARTINEZ TOWN. YOU ALL KNOW MARTINEZ TOWN IS AN UNDERSERVED COMMUNITY. WE HAVE NO COMMUNITY CENTER. WE HAVE NO SERVICES FOR OUR KIDS OR SENIORS. NOW, WE'RE GETTING THE HOMELESS CAMP IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. IN THE PAST THREE MONTHS, YDI WAS ESTABLISHED IN MARTINEZ TOWN WITH LITTLE CHILDREN BEING TAKEN CARE OF. THEIR FACILITY WAS BROKEN INTO SEVERAL TIMES, NOW THEY MOVED OUT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THE CEMETERY IS BEING DESECRATED. ESPECIALLY WHERE THE KIDS ARE BURIED. THERE'S NO RESPECT FOR THOSE CHILDREN THERE. ALBUQUERQUE HIGH DIDN'T HAVE ANY RESPECT FOR THEIR -- THE PLANNING DIDN'T HAVE RESPECT FOR ALBUQUERQUE HIGH STUDENTS. MENAUL HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS DOWN THE ROAD. THIS WAS UNDERHANDED. IT WAS SECRETORY BROUGHT UPON US. NOBODY FROM THE CITY CAME TO INFORM US ABOUT WHAT WAS GOING ON. THAT'S HOW MUCH RESPECT WE GET IN MAR MEANS TOWN. I REQUEST YOU DO THE RIGHT THING TO TAKE CARE OF THESE HOMELESS PEOPLE. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BENTON: COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I'M JUST VERY, VERY CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE TODAY. I MEAN I'M AN AMERICAN CITIZEN AND SOME OF THESE FOLKS, THE WHOLE TIME I'VE BEEN A CITY COUNCIL ER EVERYBODY BROUGHT UP ISSUES REGARDING THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS. EVERY SINGLE PERSON, EACH ONE OF US HAS A SECTION OF CITY THAT WE REPRESENT. AND EVERY SINGLE PERSON THAT WALKS UP THERE IS ACTUALLY CONCERNED ABOUT THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD AND THEY ALSO HAVE THE RIGHT TO FREE SPEECH UNDER OUR CONSTITUTION. HOW IN THE WORLD TO -- DO WE BALANCE FREE SPEECH AND OUR JOB AS CITY COUNCIL. I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE WAY THE RULES ARE WORKING. SOMEBODY NEEDS TO EXPLAIN THAT TO ME AS TO WHY WE ARE CENSORING THE FOLKS THAT WANT TO TRY TO SPEAK AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THEY DON'T HAVE THE CONSTITUTIONAL FREE SPEECH RIGHTS. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, YOU TOUCHED ON ONE OF THE CHALLENGES OF BEING IN YOUR SEAT, THE BIG ONE WITH RESPECT TO BALANCE VARIOUS OBLIGATION AND THE RIGHTS OF THE PUBLIC. THE CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS. IS A LIMITED FORUM FOR PURPOSES OF SPEECH. AND SO, PEOPLE DO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT THEMSELVES IN THIS FORUM. HOWEVER, AT SOME POINT WHEN WE'RE DEALING WITH LAND USE APPEALS, WE'RE DEALING WITH TWO DIFFERENT CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS AT PLAY. THE JOB OF THE COUNCIL AND WHAT I'M TRYING TO ADVISE IS A WAY TO BALANCE THOSE TWO RIGHTS. ONE OF THE RIGHTS THAT'S AT PLAY OTHER THAN THE FIRST AMENDMENT WHICH YOU REFERENCED IS THE RIGHT UNDER THE 5th AND 14th AMENDMENT OF THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION TO HAVE DUE PROCESS OF LAW. THAT APPLIES WHEN YOU ARE PERFORMING A QUASI-JUDICIAL FUNCTION WHICH YOU DO WHEN YOU HEAR LAND USE APPEALS. THE ADVISEMENT I WAS OFFERING AND WAS ATTEMPTING TO BALANCE TO GIVE THE PEOPLE TO SPEAK GENERALLY ABILITY -- ABOUT POLICY ISSUES. WITH RESPECT TO INDIVIDUAL APPLICATIONS, IF PEOPLE WANT TO SHOW UP AND SPEAK ABOUT THOSE DURING THE LUHO PROCESS THEY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY THERE. IT'S NOT A MATTER OF BEING STIFLED, IT'S ENTERING THE COMMENTS IN THE CORRECT PLACE IN THE CORRECTS PROCESS. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE ACTUALLY SPEAKING DON'T HAVE AN IDEA OF WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. THEY'RE JUST CITIZEN COMING IN TO EXPRESS FEELINGS, AND THOUGHTS AND IN REFERENCE TO WHERE THEY LIVE AND THAT'S ALL THEY'RE TRYING TO DO. IT REALLY CONFUSES THEM AND IT CONFUSES US AS TO WHAT THEY CAN AND CANNOT SAY. I UNDERSTAND YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE ACTUAL SPECIFIC FACT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO VOTE ON CERTAIN THING AND IT'S QUASI-JUDICIAL. BUT HOW DO WE EXPRESS THOSE CONCERNS AND THOSE THINGS TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC WHO ARE HERE JUST OUT OF WHAT THEIR HEART IS BRINGING THEM TO DO IN FRONT OF CITY COUNCIL AND THAT'S TO ASK QUESTIONS CONCERNING THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD. CONCERNING THEIR WELL-BEING. CONCERNING THEIR SAFETY. AND CONCERNING THEIR ACTUAL RIGHTS AS A CITIZEN OF THE UNITED STATES. IT'S JUST -- HOW DO WE RELAY THAT TO THE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE SPEAKING HERE. BECAUSE EVERY SINGLE TIME I COME TO CITY COUNCIL MEETING, EVERY SINGLE PERSON HAS SOME SORT OF THING THEY NEED TO TALK ABOUT IN REFERENCE TO THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD. >>COUN. BENTON: COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, IF I MAY, I HAD TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION MANY TIMES TO MY CONSTITUENTS. IT'S DIFFICULT. THE BEST I CAN EVER COME UP WITH IS, I WAS ELECTED TO REPRESENT YOU. I WANT TO REPRESENT YOU. AND IF IT COMES TO AN APPEAL, IF IT COMES APPEAL AND WE KNOW SOME OF THESE THERE'S A HIGH LIKELIHOOD THEY CAN COME TO AN APPEAL, YOU WANT ME TO BE ABLE TO VOTE ON YOU WERE BEHALF AND DO MY BEST ON YOUR BEHALF. IF I'VE HEARD TESTIMONY THAT WOULD COLOR MY JUDGMENT, THEN MY VOTE BECOMES QUESTIONABLE WHETHER I'M EVEN ALLOWED TO VOTE UNDER THIS QUASI-JUDICIAL REGIME. I REALLY APPRECIATE THE WAY YOU BROUGHT IT UP. BECAUSE THEARVEERAGE --ARVEERAGE AVERAGE PERSON, AS THE CHAIR OF THE BODY I'M FOLLOWING WHAT OUR LEGAL PEOPLE TELL US WE NEED TO DO. I'M TRYING TO STRIKE THAT BALANCE. AND PEOPLE ARE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE ISSUE HERE TONIGHT. AND WE ALL ARE GOING TO DO OUR BEST TO DEAL WITH IT. AND WE'RE GOING TO VOTE ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. BUT THE FACT IS, THESE ARE COMPLICATED MATTERS THAT THEY DO INVOLVE PROPERTY RIGHTS AND SO FORTH UNDER THE CONSTITUTION. NOT ALWAYS EASY TO EXPLAIN. I CAN SPEAK FOR ALL OF US, I'M SURE, WANT TO BE ABLE TO WEIGH IN WHEN THE TIME COMES ON AN APPEAL. IF IT IS APPEALED. AND NOT HAVE TO RECUSE OURSELVES. WHICH SOMETIMES WE HAVE TO DO THAT BECAUSE WE'VE HAD THESE CONVERSATIONS PRIOR. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. THAT STILL IS NOT ANSWERING THE FULL QUESTION. HOW DO WE DEAL WITH FOLKS THAT ARE OUT THERE, THE COMMUNITY, PUBLIC AND LET THEM KNOW BASED ON WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO TESTIFY HERE OR WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO SPECK ABOUT COULD BE IN THAT QUASI-JUDICIAL REALM. THAT'S THE BIGGEST ISSUE WE NEED TO DEAL WITH. BECAUSE THERE'S A VERY FINE LINE BETWEEN WHAT THEY SAY VERSUS WHAT WE INTERPRET. AS BEING THAT FINE LINE. WE NEED FIND A WAY TO INTERPRET IT SO THE CITIZENS OF ALBUQUERQUE UNDERSTAND THAT THEY'RE NOT CROSSING THE LINE IN ORDER TO INFLUENCE A VOTE. WE NEED TO FIND A WAY TO DEAL WITH THAT. IN MY OPINION. >> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS LIDDIA DOTRY, FOLLOWED BY HERALD TROT. HERALD TROT FOLLOWED BY BURY -- BARRY SUINT. BARRYSUINN FOLLOWED BY DEBBIE O'MALLEY ON ZOOM. MR. PRESIDENT, WE'LL SWITCH TO ZOOM. OUR FIRST SPEAKER IS COMMISSIONER O'MALLEY. >> THANK YOU, COUNCILOR BENTON, COUNCIL MEMBERS. I'M SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF IN SUPPORT OF SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES. I BEGIN WITH TIME IS NOT ON OUR SIDE. AS A RESULT IT'S JUST GETTING WORSE. THE LONGER PEOPLE REMAIN UNSHELTERED THE WORSE THEIR EMOTIONAL, MENTAL AND PHYSICAL HEALTH GETS AND THE MORE RESOURCES IT TAKES TO TRY TO ADDRESS THESE ISSUES. AND IN A PERFECT WORLD EVERYONE WORLD EVERYONE WOULD BE WELL FED, HEALTHY AND HOUSED. OUR OPTIONS ARE NOT PERFECT EITHER. AS YOU KNOW THE COUNTY HAS A PROGRAM. EVERY YEAR THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT WE CREMATE AND BURY OVER INCREASES. 200 PEOPLE WERE BURIED LAST YEAR. PEOPLE WHO WERE VICTIMS OF POVERTY AND HOMELESSNESS. I AGREE THAT LIVING IN A TENT IN THE CITY IS NOT IDEAL, NEITHER IS LIVING IN A CAR. HAVING A SAFE PLACE IN THE COMMUNITY WHERE YOU CAN KEEP YOUR BELONGS AND HAVE YOUR OWN PRIEFRBT SPACE IS A HUGE IMPROVEMENT AND ACCESS TO SERVICES IT. IT ALLOWS PEOPLE TO NOT BE IN CONSTANT SURVIVAL MODE. IT PROVIDES THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THOSE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY WHO WANT TO HELP BECAUSE THEY WILL DO SO. IT IS SAID THE BEST TIME TO PLANT THE TREE IS 20 YEARS AGO. AND THE NEXT BEST TIME IS NOW. WE CAN'T GO BACK. IT'S A WASTE OF TIME TO ARGUE WHAT WE SHOULD HAVE AND COULD HAVE DOWN. WE ONLY HAVE NOW AND THE FUTURE, GOD WILLING. I ASK THIS COUNCIL GO BACK AND SUPPORT THE OUTDOOR SPACES. NOT RESCIND YOUR COUNCIL'S DECISION TO CREATE THEM. THANK YOU. >> CARA, FOLLOWED BY THOMAS HOPKINS. >> GOOD EVENING, PRESIDENT BENTON, AND COUNCILORS. I'M SPEAKING TONIGHT IN STRONG OPPOSITION TO THE PROPOSED 12-MONTH MORATORIUM ON SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES. CORONADO PARK IS GOING TO BE CLOSED AND TELL EVERYBODY TO STAY IN A SHELTER. THE ZONING CHANGE IN THE IDO HAS ALREADY BEEN APPROVED AFTER MONTHS OF DELIBERATION. IT IS BACKPEDALING FOR THE CITY COUNCIL TO PASS A 12-MONTH MORATORIUM WHEN THERE'S ALREADY RESTRICTION OF NO MORE THAN TWO SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES IN ANYONE DISTRICT. IT SHOULD DEFINITELY NOT APPLY TO PINDING APPLICATION FOR SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES. IT WILL BE A LONG WINTER IF THE COUNCIL NOW DECIDES TO QUASH THE GOOD WORK YOU ACCOMPLISH BY AMENDING THE IDO TO ALLOW SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES TO GO FORWARD. IT WILL NOT BE A LONG WINTER FOR YOU OR ME BUT FOR THE PEOPLE SLEEPING OUTSIDE. SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES STABBED WARMING STATION AND MOTEL CONVERSIONS WOULD GET LOT OF PEOPLE OFF THE STREET. I DO NOT UNDERSTAND CUTTING THE PUBLIC COMMENT LENGTH BY ONE QUARTER. PLEASE RESTORE THE TWO MINUTE LIMIT THAT WAS THE STATUS QUO FOR DECADES BECAUSE THE COUNCIL ALWAYS VALUE PUBLIC INPUT. >> THOMAS HOPKINS FOLLOWED BY PETER --. >> THANKS FOR LETTING ME SPEAK TONIGHT. AND I APOLOGIZE FOR ANY ISSUES. I'M A PROPERTY OWNER AT WELLS PARK AND SAWMILL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. I DO LIVE NEXT TO HOMELESS. I SEE THEM EVERY DAY. IT'S NOT AN ABSTRACT DAY. I'M STRONGLY AGAINST PUTTING A MORATORIUM. WE NEED TO SPUR -- PURSUE SOLUTIONS NOW. I'VE HEARD A LOT OF NIMBYISM FROM VARIOUS SPEAKERS. WE NEED TO PURSUE SOME REAL LIFE PILOT PROGRAMS. GETTING A SANCTIONED CAMP CAN BRING SECURITY TO PEOPLE AND GET THEM INTO A BETTER SITUATION. VOTING FOR THIS MORATORIUM WILL NOT END HOMELESSNESS IT WILL BE ALL OVER. STARTING AT CORONADO PARK, WITHOUT PLAN, WILL MAKE IT HARDER FOR THOSE PEOPLE AND SPREAD THE ISSUE AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD. I LIKE TO HEAR REAL SOLUTIONS FROM REAL PEOPLE AND NOT JUST DO THE RIGHT THING. PURSUING I THINK IT'S WORTHWHILE TO PURSUE SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES. STUDY THE ISSUE AND EXPAND IF NEEDED TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE. THANK YOU. >> PETER FOLLOWED BY SARAH FITS GERLED. >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCILORS, I'M IN FAVOR OF SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES BUT I'M SPEAKING IN SUPPORT OF MORATORIUM AND ADDITIONALLY QUESTIONING THE LEGALITY OF THE ADOPTIONS OF SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES AMENDMENTS BECAUSE IDO67D STATES EPC SHALL HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING IN AMENDMENTS WITH THE IDO THAT DID NOT OCCUR. THIS WAS NOT A MODEIFICATION BUT ENTIRELY NEW TEXT. THEREFORE THE LEGAL VALIDITY IS IN QUESTION. THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT PERMITTED TO MOMENTS WITHOUT AN EPC HEARING. SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES IS CLEARLY NOT THE CHANGE TO A NEW AMENDMENT. I SUPPORT THE REPEAL FOR THE SAME REASON'S COUNCILOR BASSAN'S AMENDMENT REMOVED REFERENCES TO SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES IN THE IDO INCLUDED PARTICULARLY SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES CONTRARY TO COMPREHENSIVE PLAN LOCALLY AWAURNTED USES. THE IDO MAY PERMIT ONLY TWO SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES PERCITY COUNCIL DISTRICT WITH THE INTERPRETATION RIP [ INAUDIBLE ]. UNLIMITED NUMBER OF SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES ANYWHERE INCLUDING AREAS AS QUOTED FROM COUNCILOR BASSAN IN ZONING DISTRICTS, IN AREAS OF ALBUQUERQUE THAT ARE ALREADY OVER BURDENED WITH SIMILAR TYPES OF SOCIAL SERVICES AND COMPLIMENTARY LAND USES SUCH AS LAND USE SHELTERS AND GROUP HOMES. >> THANK YOU. YOUR TIME IS UP. >> SARAH FITSGERLED. >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCILORS. ON BEHALF OF THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS OF THE GREATER ALBUQUERQUE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE. WE SUPPORT THIS LEGISLATION. AND WE SUPPORT TO REMOVE THE AUTHORIZATION FROM THE IDO. WE BELIEVE THE CITY SHOULD BE COMPASSIONATE AND HELPFUL TOWARD PEOPLE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS. THOSE WHO WANT HELP AND TAKE HELP SHOULD GET HELP. WE OPPOSE ANY POLICY THAT ALLOWS OUR CITY TO BE USED AS A CAMPGROUND. THOSE WHO REFUSE TO TAKE THE HELP OF YOUR COMMUNITY SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO CAMP IN THE CITY. SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES WILL NOT REMAIN SAFE OR SMALL FOR LONG. WE BELIEF PROLIFINATION OF CAMPS WILL NOT MAKE OUR STREETS SAFER. IT WILL HELP EFFORTS TO ATTRACT EMPLOYEES AND EMPLOYER WAS LIKE. WE ENCOURAGE THE COUNCIL TO GET THE GATEWAY CENTER UP AND RUNNING. AND ALSO TO CO-LOCATE AND BETTER COORDINATE SERVICES. IN OTHER WORDS, REAL HELP THAT LEADS TO LONG-TERM STABILITY. WE URGE YOU TO PASS THIS MORATORIUM AND LEARN YOUR EFFORTS BACK TO OPENING THE GATEWAY CENTER TO SERVE THE UNHOUSED COMMUNITY. >> ROSE MARY BLANCHERED. >> CAN YOU HEAR ME? OKAY. COUNCILOR BENTON, MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL, I AM A RESIDENT OF THE NEAR NORTHIVALY AND A MEMBER OF THE ALBUQUERQUE FRIENDS MEETING LOCATED IN DRIBLTH TWO. -- DISTRICT. I URGE YOU TO DO FEET THIS MORATORIUM. YOUR AGENDA TODAY INCLUDES OR AT LEAST INCLUDED TWO ITEMS THAT -- IF PASSED, WE SHOULD CHANGE THE CURRENT ADMINISTRATION'S MOTTO OF ONE ALBUQUERQUE TO ALBUQUERQUE FOR SOME. COUNCIL BILL R-22-56 PLACES ONE YEAR MORATORIUM ON SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES. COUNCIL BILL R-22-62 WOULD ORDER THE CITY TO RETURN FUNDS TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT THAT ARE SUPPOSED TO FUND AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN THE CIBOLA LOOP AREA. I HOPE YOU REJECT BOTH ATTEMPTS TO MARGINALIZE THE LEAST ECONOMICALLY PROTECTED AMONG US. IN REGARD TO R HFR -- R-22-56. THE CLAIM IS THE SITES CANNOT BE MANAGED TO MAKE THEM SAFER THAN UNSUPERVISED HOMELESS CAMPS. THIS IS UNTRUE. I URGE YOU TO LOOK AT THE EFFECTIVE OUTDOOR ALTERNATIVES FOR THE UNHOUSED AT CAMP HOPE AND THE COLORADO VILLAGE COLLABORATIVE. IN RECENT NEWS ARTICLES. >> THANK YOU. YOUR TIME IS UP. >> CAN I SAY I URGE YOU TO PLEASE DO NOT PASS THIS MORATORIUM WHICH IS ONLY A FIRST STEP TO TRYING TO ELIMINATE THE SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES ALTOGETHER. >> SHE LIERBGS LA ? >> CAN YOU HEAR ME? I'M AGAINST THE SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES. AND I WOULD HIGHLY ENCOURAGE FOR ANYONE WHO HAS NOT GOTTEN ON COUNCILOR LEWIS'S CITY WEB PAGE TO READ THE STATISTICS HE HAS FOUND. IN ALL OF THE CITIES TO LA TO WASHINGTON, D.C., SEATTLE, SAN DIEGO, I COULD GO ON AND ON, I ENCOURAGE YOU TO GO TO HIS WEB PAGE. THEY'RE ALL BEGINNING TO WANT TO SHUT DOWN THE SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES. HE GIVES YOU THE NEWSPAPER ARTICLE, THE DATE IT'S IN, AND AT THE END HE GIVES YOU HIS PROPOSAL AS TO WHY THIS IS NOT GOING TO WORK IN ALBUQUERQUE. LISTEN, IF WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT CORONADO PARK, AND LOOK HOW LONG THAT HAS BEEN AN ISSUE, HOW ARE WE GOING TO START A SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES? HOW ARE WE GOING TO DO THIS? IT'S BEYOND -- I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ANSWER IS. BUT I REALLY LIKED COUNCILOR LEWIS'S TWO DOCUMENTS HE PUT THERE. AND I WANT TO JUST SAY, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S LEGAL FOR HEALTH CARE FOR THE HOMELESS TO BE WALKING THROUGH CORONADO PARK AND DISTRIBUTE NEEDLES TO EVERYONE. >> THANK YOU. YOUR TIME IS UP. >> THANK YOU. GUY WATSON, FOLLOWED BY ALEX --. >> CAN YOU HEAR ME? >> YES, WE CAN. PLEASE PROCEED. >> OKAY, I'M GUY WATSON. AND I'M SPEAKING ON R-22-56. AGAINST THE MORATORIUM. HERE'S WHY, ONE, WE DO NEED SAFE SPACES. THERE NEEDS TO BE EVERYBODY HAS TO HAVE SOME PLACE TO CALL THEIR OWN. HOWEVER, THE SPACE AT CORONADO PARK IS NOT A SAFE SPACE. YOU CAN TAKE A LOOK AT THE CAMPING GROUNDS IN THE FOREST THAT MANY OF US GO TO. THEY HAVE A TRAILER IN THERE. YOU NEED SOMEBODY THAT CAN ACTUALLY SUPERVISE THE AREA. THIS AREA IS NOT SUPERVISED. SECONDLY, THE ONLY WAY TO REACH HOMELESS, AND I GUARANTEE YOU MANY CASE MANAGERS ARE PULLING THEIR HAIR OUT BECAUSE ONCE A PLACE IS CLOSED PEOPLE WILL KATTER ALL OVER THE PLACE. IF THEY HAD A WEEKS WORTH OF SUCCESS WITH A HOMELESS WHO COULD GET INTO A JOB, HEALTH OR HOME, THEY CAN'T FIND THEM BECAUSE THE SPACE WAS CLOSED DOWN. THIS SPACE RIGHT NOW IS NOT A SAFE SPACE. WHAT WE NEED IS SAFE SPACES THAT THE CITY IS WILLING TO COMMITMENT PEOPLE TO AND SUPERVISE AND MAKE SURE ANYONE -- THERE WAS A LIGHT THERE A LONG TIME AGO. AND ONE TROUBLE OCCURRED IT LIT UP THE WHOLE PLACE. THAT IS A WAY TO MAKE A SAFE SPACE SAFE. ALSO, WITHOUT A SHOWER, WITHOUT TOILETS THAT ARE CLEAN, IT ISN'T A SAFE SPACE AT ALL. YOU WONDER WHY THERE'S POOP IN DIFFERENT PLACES, MAYBE IT'S BECAUSE -- >> THANK YOU YOUR TIME IS UP. ALEX. >> GOOD EVENING, MR. PRESIDENT, THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. THANK YOU TO MY COUNCILOR SANCHEZ FOR QUESTIONING WHY WE CANNOT SPEAK FREELY ABOUT THE CONCERNS WE HAVE ABOUT OUR NEIGHBORHOODS DIRECTLY TO OUR ELECTED REPRESENTATIVES WHO ARE TO REPRESENT US AND HOW WE FEEL ABOUT THE HAPPENINGS IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS. MY NAME IS ALEX, AND I'M PRESIDENT OF THE WEST MESA NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON -- IN SUPPORT OF THE MORATORIUM ON SAFE OPEN SPACES. I KNOW I CAN'T TALK ABOUT THE SPECIFIC ONE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. I CHANGED MY SPEECH TO BE GENERAL. I'M IN FAVOR BECAUSE WE CANNOT HAVE THESE SPACES PLACED IN THE MIDDLE OF RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS BACKING UP TO HOMES AND YARDS. THE ONE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD THEY DID NOT TALK ABOUT TO THE BUSINESSES, THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS, OR ANY OFALITY OF THE REPRESENTATIVES. THEY DID NOT CONSIDER THE EFFECT SPACE WOULD HAVE ON THE ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD. THIS IS UNIFIED AGAINST IT. THESE ENCAMPMENTS ARE VERY DISRUPTIVE TO THE NEIGHBORHOODS IN WHICH THEY'RE LOCATED AND LEAD TO INCREASED CRIME AND RESIDENTIAL BREAK-INS AND VANDALLISM OF PRIVATE PROPERTY, SHOPLIFTING, AND THE NEIGHBORHOODS GET LITTERED WITH TRASH, HUMAN REFUGE, NEEDLES AND OTHER CRAP. THERE ARE ALSO PUBLIC PARKS WHICH ALREADY HAVE PLENTY OF THESE ISSUES WITH THE DESTRUCTION FROM THE ILLEGAL ACTIVITIES FROM THE HOMELESS THAT ALREADY EXIST. >> THANK YOU. YOUR TIME IS UP. MR. PRESIDENT, THAT CONEMPLOYEDS -- CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I HAVE ONE QUESTION. QUICK QUESTION, WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO ADD SOME SORT OF LANGUAGE INTO THE RULES OF PUBLIC COMMENT IN REFERENCE TO THE ITEM I WAS TALKING ABOUT EARLIER THAT WOULD LET PEOPLE KNOW IF THEY'RE IN A QUASI-JUDICIAL REALM AND MAYBE SPEAKING IN GENERAL AND NOT A CERTAIN LOCATION. THAT WOULD HELP ALL OF THE CONSTITUENTS UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE. AND IT'S MOSTLY FOR THEM. I GET WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH. AND I JUST WANT TO HELP OUT AND MAKE SURE THEY'RE UNDERSTANDING THE RULES THAT WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR SANCHEZ WELL-TAKEN. IT IS A BIG CHALLENGE. ESPECIALLY I UNDERSTAND THE FRUSTRATION OF THE PUBLIC. COUNCIL STAFF WILL WORK TO MAYBE GIVE SOME BETTER GUIDANCE AND CHEL WEAK WITH YOU AND SEE WHAT YOU HAVE IN MIND. >>COUN. LEWIS: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. MR. MELENDREZ, ALONG THOSE LINES. NOT CLARIFICATION OF WHAT THEY CAN'T DO, THERE'S GOT TO BE A WAY TO EXPRESS SPECIFICALLY THAT SPECIFIC SITE. THEY CAN BEGIN PUTTING THEIR COMMENTS ON THE RECORD REGARDING THAT? >> MR. PRESIDENT, GENERALLY, THE BEST PLACE TO DO THAT IS AT THE EPC OR ZONING HEARING EXAMINER. THESE BEING ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVALS DON'T HAVE THAT FORUM FOR THAT. AT THE LUHO LEVEL DOES HAVE OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE ADDITIONAL TESTIMONY, AND FROM MY OBSERVATION IS OPEN TO TESTIMONY AND LET'S FOLKS SPEAK. THAT WOULD BE THE OPPORTUNITY HERE. THE BEST OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE TO GET COMMENTS INTO THE RECORD. IT'S NOT THEY CAN'T SPEAK ABOUT IT. IT'S JUST THAT IT NEEDS TO BE IN THE RIGHT FORUM. IN THIS INSTANCE IT WOULD LIKELY BE THROUGH THAT LAND USE HEARING OFFICER PROCESS. THE LAND USE HEARING OFFICER MEETINGS ARE PUBLIC MEETING. THEY'RE NOTICED IN ADVANCE AND WE HAVE A WEBSITE PAGE ON THE COUNCIL WEBSITE THAT DETAILS WHICH ITEMS ARE UP AND WHEN THEY'RE SCHEDULED. >>COUN. LEWIS: I THINK THAT BECAUSE PEOPLE WANT TO MAKE COMMENTS ON THIS NOW, IF WE CAN GIVE CLARITY ON THEM ON THE OPPORTUNITIES THEY WILL BE ABLE TO DO THAT SO THEY CAN BEGIN PREPARING THAT AND THEY KNOW CLEARLY HOW TO DO THAT. NOT JUST WHAT THEY CAN'T DO. I THINK YOU SAID THAT. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BENTON: THANKS FOR THAT CLARIFICATION. WE ARE BACK ON THE BILL. DOES THE ADMINISTRATION HAVE ANY THOUGHTS WITH REGARD TO THIS, MR. RAEL? >> MR. PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. FIRST AND FOREMOST, WE SAID CONSISTENTLY WE NEED THE TOOLS TO BE ABLE TO DEAL WITH THIS ISSUE IN SOME FASHION. MAYOR SAID PUBLICLY THAT WE STAND FOR ALL OF THE ABOVE APPROACH. WE NEED TO FIND OPPORTUNITIES TO OPEN GATEWAY AND GET THAT GOING. BUT WE ALSO KNOW THAT AS WE HAVE BEEN THROUGH THESE LAST THREE OR FOUR WEEKS WORKING ON CORONADO PARK THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE THAT DON'T WANT TO BE IN A SHELTER AND PREFER TO BE IN A DIFFERENT SITUATION. AND SO THIS GIVES US THE OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AND EXPLORE OPPORTUNITIES. THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT THAT'S FOR THIS APPLICATION THAT DIDN'T MEET THE REQUIREMENTS WOULD BE A PILOT. SEE IF THAT WORKS TO SEE IF WE CAN MANAGE IT. WE'VE SEEN AND MANY OF YOU HAVE GONE TO SEE SOME OF THE SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES IN COLORADO AND OTHER PARTS OF THE COUNTRY. THEY ARE VERY, VERY STRUCTURED WITH LOT OF OVERSIGHT AND REVIEW. THEY ARE NOT THE KIND OF SITUATION THAT YOU SEE UNFORTUNATELY AND WE SAW AT CORONADO PARK. IT DOES GIVE US SOME OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT THAT AND CREATE SOME VENUES THAT HELP PEOPLE. WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE WOULD OBVIOUSLY PREFER TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT THESE SITES AND LOOK AT OTHER OPPORTUNITIES TO HELP THESE FOLKS BECAUSE THEY CERTAINLY DO NEED OUR HELP. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU. COUNCILORS, OPEN UP TO ANY MORE DISCUSSION FROM THE COUNCIL. >>COUN. LEWIS: MR. PRESIDENT, THANK YOU. THAT COMMENT COMES UP A LOT. THERE'S JUST SOME PEOPLE THAT AREN'T GOING TO GO TO SHELTERS OR STRUCTURED PLACE. AND IN THE SAME BREATH WE SAY, WE'RE GOING TO GIVE THEM A STRUCTURED PLACE. ANOTHER STRUCTURED PLACE. THAT SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES ARE THIS PLACE THAT THEY'RE SOMEHOW MAGICICALLY GOING TO GO TO. EVEN THOUGH THEY WON'T GO TO OTHER PLACES. EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE 369 BEDS AVAILABLE EVERY NIGHT. AVAILABLE NOT JUST -- VACANT NOT JUST AVAILABLE THAT ARE BEING USED EVERY NIGHT IN THE CITY. WHAT MAKES US THINK THEY'RE GOING TO GO TO SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES. AND THERE ARE EXAMPLES OF THAT. IN DENVER, THERE ARE PROBLEMS WITH THAT PROGRAM. IN LAS CRUSES , THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE THAT LIVE WITHIN THE CONFINES OF THAT SO-CALLED SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES, AND THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE THAT ARE INTENTS OUTSIDE OF THE FENCES. AND THERE ARE OTHER CITIES. THIS IS NOT NEW. IT'S NOT INNOVATIVE. IT'S NOT A NEW IDEA. IT'S BEING TRIED IN OTHER CITIES AND MANY ARE REALIZING THAT THEY'RE NOT WORKING. AND THEY'RE GETTING RID OF THEM. ALSO, ULTIMATELY VERY EXPENSIVE. IF WE USE THE EXAMPLE OF DENVER, THEN WE ALSO HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THE FACT THAT DENVER PAYS $30,000 IN TAXPAYER MONEY PER TENT PER YEAR. $30,000 PER TENT PER YEAR. THAT'S ENOUGH MONEY TO PUT TWO PEOPLE IN A DOWNTOWN APARTMENT IN DENVER. A REALLY NICE, FOR AN ENTIRE YEAR. YET, WE'RE SENDING THEM TO A TENT RATHER THAN DOING THAT. I CAN GO ON AND ON, WE'VE HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS. THE LADY THAT GAVE GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT MENTIONED THE PUBLISHED ARTICLE ON THE WEBSITE, I THINK SHE AGREED WITH IT. I COULDN'T HEAR EVERYTHING SHE WAS SAYING. THERE'S DETAIL AFTER DETAIL AND EXAMPLE AND EXAMPLE OF THAT. I'LL SAY THIS, THE ADMINISTRATION'S PLAN ON WHAT YOU'RE DOING WITH CORONADO PLAN, GETTING ALL THE NON-PROFITS TOGETHER, EDUCATING THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BUSINESSES AROUND THERE, PROVIDING THE SERVICES SURVEYING EVERYBODY, FINDING THE SERVICES THEY NEED AND ULTIMATELY ALLOWING THAT PART TO BE WHAT WE'VE INTEND IT TO BE. A PLACE FOR CHILDREN TO PLAY. A PLACE FOR US TO BE A PUBLIC USE. THAT'S A GREAT STRATEGY. AND THAT IS A STRATEGY THAT IF IT'S GOOD FOR CORONADO PARK WHY ISN'T IT GOOD FOR EVERY OTHER PLACE WHERE THERE'S PEOPLE LIVING IN PUBLIC PLACES LIKE THIS? I WOULD ENDORSE THAT STRATEGY AND THAT PROCESS AND WE HAVE THE RESOURCES TO DO IT. THIS COUNCIL FUNDED THE COMMUNITY SAFETY AGENTS. DOUBLED THE AMOUNT OF THE ABILITY TO HIRE THEM. WE HAVE GIVEN THE ADMINISTRATION A BUDGET TO BE ABLE TO REALLY DO WHAT YOU WANT. AND SO THERE'S NO REASON WHY WE COULDN'T APPLY THAT SAME STRATEGY TO EVERY PART OF OUR CITY. MULTULT -- ULTIMATELY HELPING PEOPLE TO NOT HAVE TO LIVE ON A STREET OR PARK. THAT PARK IS STILL THERE. IT'S SOME OF THE MOST WORST CONDITIONS. IF YOU THINK WE'RE GOING TO CREATE A SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES THAT LOOKS LIKE CORONADO PARK, IT'S UNBELIEVABLE WHAT'S GOING ON OVER THERE. THAT'S WHAT THE PEOPLE IN SANTA FE, THEY SAID WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO THIS BECAUSE THEY LOOKED AT CORONADO PARK. SO, AGAIN, WHAT IS THE PLAN? THE PLAN IS EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE DOING AT CORONADO PARK WITH EVERY PART OF THE CITY. IT HAS ALL THE COMPONENTS OF GETTING THE PEOPLE THE SERVICES THEY NEED. ROOTING OUT THE CRIME IN THOSE AREAS AND AT THE SAME TIME HELPING PEOPLE THAT NEED HELP. >>COUN. BENTON: COUNCILOR DAVIS. >>COUN. DAVIS: MR. PRESIDENT, BRIEFLY. I'LL DO MY BEST. I UNDERSTAND AND AND HEAR SOME OF THE SAME CONCERNS. I UNDERSTAND THE PUBLIC FRUSTRATION WITH CORONADO AND THE WAY THAT WORKED. PART OF THE REASON WE WENT DOWN THIS ROAD WAS BECAUSE WE CREATING A SPACE WITHOUT STRUCTURE FOR THE PEOPLE WELCOMED IT PREVENTED FOLKS FROM BEING TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF AND EXPLOITED. THAT STRUCTURE HELPS FOR THE PEOPLE IN TRANSITION. FOR THE PEOPLE LIVING IN HER CAR AND NEEDING A SAFE PLACE. OUR OVERNIGHT ACCOUNTS TELL US THERE'S ALMOST A THOUSAND PEOPLE IN OUR CITY EVERY NIGHT LIVING IN THEIR CARS. THEY DRIVE PAR CITY PARKS, THEY DRIVE BY CITY HALL. GUARANTEE YOU FILE ONE OR TWO. NO MATTER WHICH WAY YOU GO HOME. THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT WANT TO PROVIDE A SAFE SPACE. NOT FOR ALL OF THEM. NOT FOR 5,000. BUT FOR 20 OR 30 OR TEN. THEY WANT TO DO THAT. FOR FOLKS THAT SAY WE DECENT -- DON'T HAVE A PLAN. IT'S OUR FAULT. WE HAD A BILL THAT SAID GO FORTH, MAYOR, BRING US BACK AT THE MEETING LAST WEEK A PLAN FOR HOW THINGS WILL BE RUN IN CASE THEY STICK AROUND. AND THIS COUNCIL VOTED IT DOWN. AND SO NOW THE COMMUNITY IS FIRED UP BECAUSE THEY THINK EVERY ONE OF THE SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES WILL LOOK LIKE THE ONE DOWNTOWN WITHOUT ANY RULES. THAT'S NOT THE CASE. WE'VE ALLOWED THAT NARRATIVE TO BE PERPETRATED ON THE PUBLIC BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A RESPONSE OR ANSWER. I THINK IT'S OUR FAULT THAT THE CITY OR EVEN IF WE DON'T LIKE THE IDEA OR AT LEAST NOT STRUCTURING IT IN A WAY THAT IN CASE IT DOES STICK AROUND IT'S BETTER THAN NOTHING. WE HAVE AN OBLIGATION THAT'S IT'S A BAD IDEA. WE HAVE -- WE CAN'T JUST GET RID OF THIS. THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT NEED HIS HELP. I'M STILL WAITING, AND I THINK WE'RE ALL WAITING TO HEAR WHAT THE PLAN IS FOR THE FOLKS THAT ARE BEING MOVERED -- MOVED TO THE STREET AND ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE UNDERFUNDED. IT'S NOT FAIR TO SAY THERE'S 300 BEDS IS BECAUSE WE'RE FUNDING STUFF THAT PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO USE. THERE'S BEAR -- YOU CAN'T COME IN WITH A PET. YOU CAN'T COME IN WITH A KID. YOU CAN'T COME IN WITH THINGS WITH MORE THAN A BACKPACK. WE'RE FUNDING THE WRONG THING. NOT THAT THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE ON THE STREET ARE GIVING UP. THAT'S MY FRUSTRATION WITH THIS. I THINK THERE'S MORE TO BE DONE IN THIS CONVERSATION. WE DO, MR. RAEL POINTED OUT, ALL OF THE ABOVE APPROACH. I THINK WE'RE FINALLY BUILDING THAT. WE JUST WENT THROUGH AS WE TALKED EARLIER, POCKET OF POVERTY FUNDING. A SMALL PIECE OF DOWNTOWN AND EAST AND MIDDLE CENTRAL. THAT'S DEDICATED FUNDING TO WORK ON HOUSING AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. I WOULD ARGUE IT WASN'T WELL DONE IN THE LAST FEW YEARS BECAUSE LOT OF OUTCOMES HAVE NOT CHANGED. WE HAVE NEW PLAN THAT'S BEING WORKED ON. THIS COUNCIL GIVES THE ADMINISTRATION $10 MILLION FOR NEW HOUSING IN THE MIDDLE OF MAY. I'M ANXIOUS, I KNOW WE KNOW WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THAT. I THINK THE PUBLIC IS ANXIOUS TO HEAR HOW THAT IS DEPLOYED. HOPEFULLY $10 MILLION OVER ONE YEAR OR TWO. WE HAVE ANOTHER $20 MILLION FOR NEW FUNDING AND ALL KINDS OF THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN DEPLOYED FOR THE BUDGET. WE'RE ADDING MORE TO THIS BUDGET AND THIS COUNCIL HAVE DONE MORE. WE CAN'T SAY WE'RE GOING TO WAIT ON SOMEBODY ELSE TO SOLVE THAT PROBLEM. PEOPLE HAVE STEPPED UP AND SAID THEY WANT THAT HELP. AND THEY'RE WILLING TO DO THAT. IT'S A HARD CHOICE. I DON'T HAVE A BETTER ONE. CLOSE CORONADO AND WILSON AND ALL OUR OTHER PARKS AND WE DON'T GIVE THEM SOMEWHERE ELSE TO GO, WE'RE GOING TO CREATE ALL THESE MINI PARKS. EVERYBODY'S NEIGHBORHOOD. GO VOLUNTEER SOMEWHERE. GO HELP SOMEBODY. HANG ON THIS OPTION. THREE OR FOUR SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES ARE NOT GOING TO KILL US. I THINK IT'S WORTH US TRYING WHILE WE WORK ON OTHER PIECES TOO. FOR THAT REASON, I'LL VOTE NO ON THE MORATORIUM. IF IT PASSES, I HOPE THE MAYOR VETOES IT AND SENDS IT BACK AND I HOPE WE ALLOW IT TO STAND LONG ENOUGH FOR US TO SEE IT. >>COUN. JONES: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I MUST SAY, COUNCILOR, YOU GAVE OSVERY GOOD ARGUMENT FOR DOING THIS. IT'S SOMETHING WE DO NEED TO DO. WE CAN BAT THIS AROUND AND TALK ABOUT IT EVERY MEETING WE HAVE AND TALK ABOUT WITH THE PRESS AND AMONG EACH OTHER. UNTIL WE TRY SOMETHING WE HAVE NOTHING. AND THAT'S WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW. IT'S TIME FOR US TO SETTLE IN, TRY AT LEAST ONE PROJECT AND SEE IF WE CAN MAKE IT WORK. IF WE CAN'T, WE GO BACK TO PLAN B. WE HAVE TO TRY SOMETHING INSTEAD OF JUST TALKING. I AGREE WITH YOU. >>COUN. BENTON: COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: I JUST WANTED TO SAY I AGREE WITH COUNCILOR JONES. I'VE BEEN IN OFFICE FOR EIGHT AND HALF MONTHS. I WOULD SAY THAT 85 TO 90% OF ALL THE CONVERSATIONS I'VE HAD IN OFFICE HAS BEEN ABOUT SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES. IT WOULD BE IMPOSSIBLE TO HAVE MORE DETAIL AND MORE DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS PROCESS. AND I AGREE ALSO WITH COUNCILOR DAVIS. IF WE WANTED TO HAVE THE DETA S OF HOW THESE WORK WE SHOULD HAVE PASSED THE BILL THAT SAID TELL US HOW THESE ARE GOING TO WORK. THE PEOPLE OF DISTRICT SEVEN ELECTED ME TO MOVE US FORWARD. THIS CONTINUAL GOING BACK AND FORTH AND BACK AND FORTH AND CONTINUING TO TALK EIGHT AND A HALF MONTHS INTO MY TERM IS FRUSTRATING. LET'S TRY SOMETHING, LET'S SEE IF IT WORKS. AND I HAVE A REALLY GOOD FEELING IT WILL. AND I HAVE FULL FAITH IN THE STAFF AND CITY THAT DEVELOPED THESE PROTOCOLS THAT ARE IN PLACE BUT WE DIDN'T HEAR ABOUT THEM BECAUSE WE WANT -- DIDN'T WANT TO. NOW IS NOT THE TIME TO ROLL BACK SOMETHING WE PASSED TWO MONTHS AGO. >>COUN. BENTON: I'LL MAKE MY QUICK SPEECH AND WE'LL GET TO FOLKS WHO ARE SPONSORING THE BILL AND HAVE BEEN IN SUPPORT OF IT. QUICKLY AND IT HAS BEEN A FRUSTRATING DISCUSSION FOR ME AS WELL. I WAS SKEPTICAL [ INAUDIBLE ]. AND I REMAIN SKEPTICAL UNTIL I WENT TO DENVER. AND I'M NOT SAYING IT IS NOT AN IN FACT MANY PEOPLE WILL NOT GO TO A SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES EITHER. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GO TO THE CELTER. THEY HAD BAD EXPERIENCES IN THE SHELTER. AND THERE'S A LOT OF STORIES ABOUT THAT. I THINK WE'RE RUNNING OUR SHELTERS A LOT BETTER THAN WE DID IN THE PAST. AND I WAS IMPRESSED BY WHAT I SAW ON THE WEST SIDE SHELTER. PEOPLE HAVE THEIR OWN REASONS WHO LIVE ON THE STREET FOR NOT GOING TO A SHELTER. THIS IS AN INTERMEDIATE STEP. AND ONE THING THAT I SAW IN DENVER WAS THEY WERE VERY SECURE. THEY WERE FENCED AND SECURE. AND OF COURSE THEY HAD SANITARY FACILITIES AND SHOWERS. AND PEOPLE WERE BRINGING IN VOLUNTEERS AND ORGANIZATIONS WERE COMING IN AND BRINGING MEALS. AND SOCIAL SERVICE PROVIDERS COULD LOCATE. SOME OF THE BIGGEST CHALLENGES FOR SOCIAL SERVICE PROVIDERS IS JUST KEEPING TRACK OF PEOPLE WHO ARE ALWAYS ON THE MOVE. OR LIVING IN A PLACE LIKE CORONADO PARK WHERE YOU ARE SUBSUMED IN A VERY HAPHAZARD ENVIRONMENT. AND THESE PROJECTS IN DENVER LOOK ABSOLUTELY LIKE CORONADO PARK. THEY'RE NOT AD HOC ENCAMPMENT. THEY'RE ORDERLY. YES, THEY'RE LOW BARRIER. INSIDE YOUR TENT. YOU CAN DO WHAT YOU WANT. JUST LIKE YOU CAN DO INSIDE YOUR HOME WHAT YOU WANT. ANY OF US WHEN WE GO HOME TONIGHT. THEY'RE NOT REGULATING WHAT A PERSON MIGHT DO WITHIN THEIR PERSONAL SPACE. BUT THERE ARE RULES AS TO WHAT THEY DO IN THE COMMON SPACE OF THE CAMPGROUND. THERE'S NOTHING FANCY ABOUT IT. THERE'S NOTHING FANCY ABOUT SHELTERS. BUT FOR SOME PEOPLE IT MAY BE THE ANSWER. THAT'S ALL WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. I THINK THAT'S WHAT MR. RAEL SAID ALL OF THE ABOVE THAT'S WHAT WE NEED. I BELIEVE WE NEED A GATEWAY SHELTER. I BELIEVE WE SHOULD FIX UP THE WEST SIDE SHELTER AND MAKE IT A LITTLE BETTER FOR SOME PEOPLE WHO MIGHT WANT TO BE THERE. TO MAKE IT COMFORTABLE TO HAVE SHADE AND OUTDOOR SPACE. WE'VE GOT TO DO ALL OF THE ABOVE. AND THERE WILL STILL PEOPLE WHO LIVE ON THE STREET. AND WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO WITH THEM. WITHOUT PROVIDING ALTERNATIVES AND THIS IS ONE OF THEM, WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION VERY EASILY WITH THEM. I WILL ALSO OPPOSE THE VOTE. COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. AND WE'LL HAVE A CLOSE FROM COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I THINK THE BIGGEST ISSUE WE'RE DEALING WITH IS THE OVERWHELMING MAJORITY OF OUR CONSTITUENTS SAYING THEY DON'T WANT IT. I DON'T THINK OUR CITY COUNCILLORS ARE LISTENING TO THEIR CONSTITUENTS IN REFERENCE TO THIS. WHEN I'VE TAUKDZ DOGS TALKED TO EVERYBODY AND I'VE TALKED TO 90% OF PEOPLE THAT DON'T WANT SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES NEXT TO THEIR HOUSE OR BUSINESS IN AN AREA THAT AFFECTS THEM AND THEIR BUSINESS AND LIVELYHEAD. THEY DON'T WANT THAT. I CAN TELL BY THE MAJORITY OF THE INDIVIDUALS SITTING IN HERE AND THE -- WE DON'T WANT THAT. WE DON'T WANT SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES. EVERY COUNCILOR IN HERE DOESN'T WANT A SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES NEXT TO THEIR HOUSE. I GUARANTEE YOU THAT. AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE LISTEN TO OUR CONSTITUENTS MORE THAN ANYTHING. THEY'RE THE ONES THAT PUT US IN OFFICE. AND I THINK THAT IF WE DON'T PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT OUR CONSTITCH CONSTITUENTS WANT. WE'RE GOING TO BE NOTICING A DIFFERENCE IN THE COUNCIL NEXT TIME WE COME UP. ANOTHER THING THAT'S IMPORTANT AS WELL IS I HAVE BEEN AND SEEN AND HAD SO MANY PEOPLE BE VICTIMIZED BY CRIME. IN OUR CITY RIGHT NOW. I WATCHED SHOPLIFTING. THESE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE OUT THERE ARE WALKING INTO LOCAL WALL GREENS, SPORTING GOODS, SMITH'S GROCERY STORE, ALL THESE STORES THAT ARE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS AND THEY'RE WALKING STRAIGHT OUT. IF YOU TALK TO THE EMPLOYEES AT THESE STORES, THEY DON'T CARE. THEY WALK IN, AND THEY GRAB WHATEVER THEY WANT OFF THE SHELF AND WALK RIGHT OUT. THEY SELL, THEY PARTER -- PARTER THAT STUFF. FENTANL IS TWO DOLLARS PER PILL. THEY'RE DRUG ADDICTS, AND IF THEY DON'T WANT TO GET HELP, YOU'RE GOING TO RUN INTO NOT HAVING A TINY HOME VILLAGE FILLED WITH PEOPLE. THIS IS REALITY. WHEN WE DRIVE UP AND DOWN OUR STREETS AND WE LOOK OVER AT A BUS STOP OR WE'RE DRIVING UP AND DOWN CENTRAL OR 4th STREET AND COORS, IT DOESN'T MATTER WHICH STREET WE'RE ON. IF IT'S A MAJOR THOROUGHFARE WE'RE SEEING MAJOR STREET CRIMINALS USING DRUGS, AND STEALING FROM ALL OF OUR STORES. YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO -- ANYBODY THAT WALKS INTO A STORE, EVERY SINGLE PERSON HAS ACTUALLY WITNESSED AN INCREASE OF CRIME BECAUSE WE DON'T ENFORCE LAWS. I HAVE A STORE ON THE WEST SIDE, IT'S THE SMITHS AT COORS AND CENTRAL THAT IS DEALING WITH 65 TO 80 SHOPLIFTING EVERY DAY. THEY WALK IN AND TAKE WHAT THEY WANT AND THOSE ARE THE INDIVIDUALS THAT WE'RE SAYING ARE HOMELESS. THESE ARE STREET CRIMINALS WE'RE DEALING WITH. YOU'RE HEARING PEOPLE SAY LET'S ARREST PEOPLE, AND YOU SAY YOU CANNOT ARREST PEOPLE FOR BEING HOMELESS, THAT WILL NEVER HAPPEN. WE ARREST PEOPLE FOR BREAKING THE LAWS OF OUR CITY. THAT'S WHAT WE DO. AT THAT POINT, WHEN WE START DOING THAT, WE'LL PROBABLY START BEING ABLE TO USE THOSE FACILITIES. BE ABLE TO DIRECT THESE PEOPLE AS A CONDITION OF ARREST OR PROBATION TO GO FACILITIES AND GET THE HELP THEY NEED TO TRANSITION INTO HOMES. THOSE ARE THE THINGS WE NEED TO BE LOOKING AT. BECAUSE WE ARE SEEING THE VERY, VERY BIG INCREASE IN CRIME. THAT MEANS THAT TRANSLATE OVER FROM THE PROPERTY CRIME, MISDEMEANOR CRIME, CITY ORDINANCES, TRANSLATE INTO THE BIG HOMICIDE WE HAVE IN THE CITY. WE HAVE HOMICIDE DETECTIVES RIGHT NOW ANSWERING HOMICIDE CALL OUT AS WE SPEAK AND THIS IS ALL AFFECTED BY NOT ENFORCING THE LAWS AT THE LOWER LEVEL. AND UNTIL WE GET HANDLE ON FORCING THE LAWS OF THE LOWER LEVEL WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A SERIOUS INCREASE IN THE UPPER LEVEL CRIMES WHETHER THEY BE FELONY LARCENY. AND THAT'S WHY WE SEE THE INCREASE IN HOMICIDE BECAUSE WE DON'T DO ANYTHING AT THE LOWER LEVEL. THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO START DIRECTING OUR ATTENTION. WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE START DIRECTING OUR ATTENTION TO WHAT'S GOING ON THE STREET AND THE AMOUNT OF CRIME THAT EACH AND EVERY ONE OF US IS WITNESSING EACH AND EVERY DAY. THANK YOU. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I'LL BE SUPPORTING COUNCILOR BASSAN'S RESOLUTION. HEARING THE CONVERSATION, I THINK IF WE HAD AN ANSWER, THE SITUATION WE HAVE IN THE STREETS IS MORE COMPLEX. AND THERE'S NO SINGLE SOLUTION TO HELP ADDRESS THE ISSUES WE'RE FACING. I'M ALWAYS SAYING THAT UNTIL WE ADDRESS THE UNDERLYING IGSZ -- ISSUE WHICH IS ADDICTION IN THE COMMUNITY, AND SOMETIMES WE DON'T TALK ABOUT THAT AS MUCH AS WE TALK ABOUT HOMELESSNESS AND MENTAL HEALTH ISSUE. ONE IN FOUR PEOPLE HAVE MENTAL HEALTH, AND MOST THAT SUFFER FROM THOSE GET A BAD WRAP WITH ALL THE CONVERSATION THAT GOES AROUND THE PEOPLE IN THE STREETS CONSIDERING THEM ALL TO HAVE MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES. I THINK SOME PEOPLE WHO ARE ON THE STREETS WHO ARE SUFFERING FROM MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES ARE ACTUALLY ALSO BECOMING ADDICTED BECAUSE THEY'RE USING DRUGS TO HELP WITH THEIR TREATING SYMPTOMS. I BELIEVE THE OVER ARCHING ISSUE IS SUBSTANCE ABUSE AND REALLY WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT ISSUE THAT WE HAVE IN OUR COMMUNITY AND WHEN WE'RE TALKING AND HEARING SOME OF THE COUNCILORS ON HERE TALKING ABOUT HOW IMPORTANT THIS ISSUE IS AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHERE THE PERMITS ARE, AND SOME OF THESE COMMUNITIES THAT ARE REALLY SUFFERING ARE OVER BURDENED BY SOME OF THESE SOCIETAL ISSUES, WHEN YOU HEAR SOME OF THEED COUNCILORS TALK ABOUT THIS AND SOME OF THE PERMITS WE HAVE EXISTING ARE ACTUALLY IN MARGINALIZED COMMUNITIES SUFFERING FROM SOCIETAL ILLS, IT'S HARD. WHEN YOU TALK TO AND SEE THE COUNCILORS AT THE END OF THE TABLE, PEOPLE OF COLOR, AND KNOWING THAT ISSUES OF ADDICTION HAVE REALLY HURT COMMUNITIES OF COLOR MORE THAN OTHERS. AND NOW, WITH THE ADDICTION ISSUE, WE'RE SEEING IT EVERYWHERE. I KNOW NO MATTER WHAT YOUR SOCIOECONOMIC STATUS IS, PEOPLE ARE IMPACTED BY THIS. AND UNTIL WE GET A GRIP ON ADDICTION AND PROVIDE ADDITIONAL RESOURCES AND SERVICES AND ASSISTANCE TO HELP WITH SUBSTANCE ABUSE, WE'RE GOING TO BE POUNDING OUR HEAD ON THE TABLE IN TERMS HOUF TO ADDRESS. ANYWAY. I'M GOING TO STOP. I'LL BE SUPPORTING COUNCILOR BASSAN'S RESOLUTION. >>COUN. BENTON: COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, BEFORE I CLOSE I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS FOR CLARIFICATION. EARLIER, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE APPEAL PROCESS. I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD FOR THE PUBLIC AND FOR THE COUNCILORS INCLUDING MYSELF TO BE REMINDED, CAN YOU TELL US APPROXIMATELY HOW LONG THE WINDOW TO APPLY FOR AN APPEAL IS OPEN FOR THAT PARK BEING CLOSED? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR BASSAN, THE APPEAL PERIOD IS PRESCRIBED BY IDO, IT'S 15 DAYS FROM THE DATE OF APPROVAL. OR DENIAL. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU. JUST TO REPEAT THAT BECAUSE I WANT IT TO SINK IN, ONCE SOMETHING SUPROVED OR DENIED, THEN THE PUBLIC OR ANY ENTITY OR PERSON HAS 15 DAYS FROM THAT MOMENT TO APPLY FOR AN APPEAL. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR BASSAN, THE IDO PRESCRIBES ALL THOSE PROCESSES. SO, THERE ARE OTHER FACTORS AT PLAY BEYOND THE TIME PERIOD. IT WOULD BE IMPORTANT FOR SOMEBODY TO VISIT THE IDO. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, SPEAKING OF TIMELINES. I'VE BEEN ASKED MULTIPLE TIMES AND I'VE DONE MY BEST JOB POSSIBLE TO EXPLAIN WHETHER IT BE TO THE MEDIA OR WHOEVER REACHES OUT TO ASK, WHAT IS THE TIMELINE SHOULD THIS PASS. SHOULD THIS PASS TONIGHT, WHAT IS THE TIMELINE FOR WHEN THE ACTUAL MORATORIUM WILL BECOME IN EFFECT. I TRY TO GIVE THE TWO OPTIONS THAT ARE LIKELY TO HAPPEN WHETHER OR NOT THERE'S A VETO. IF YOU CAN PLEASE DESCRIBE FOR THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR BASSAN, WHEN THE CITY COUNCIL ACTS, THE CHARTER REQUIRES THE CITY COUNCIL STOP THE RESOLUTION OF ORDINANCE IT BE PRESENTED TO THE MAYOR FOR CONSIDERATION OF VETO. THE NEXT STEP AFTER THE COUNCIL VOTES IS THAT IT IS FINALIZED BY OUR STAFF AND MADE AVAILABLE TO THE PRESIDENT. AND AT THAT POINT IT WILL BE TRANSFERRED UP TO THE MAYOR'S OFFICE FOR REVIEW. UPON RECEIPT BY THE MAYOR'S OFFICE, A TEN-DAY WINDOW STARTS TICKING. WITHIN THAT TEN-DAY THE MAYOR HAS DISCRETION TO SIGN THE BILL OR BE PRESENTED TO THE CITY CLERK. AND UPON RECEIPT AND SIGNING BECOME EFFECTIVE. ALSO HAVE DISCRETION TO VETO THE BILL IN WHICH CASE IT'S FOR CONSIDERATION AND OVERRIDE. THAT COULD COME ON SEPTEMBER 7th. OR THE MAYOR MAY NOT SIGN OR VETO IN WHICH CASE IT'S PRESENTED TO THE CLERK AFTER TEN DAYS. FROM TONIGHT, THE PATHS FORWARD IF THE BILL IS PRESENTED TO THE MAYOR'S OFFICE BY TOMORROW, WITH THE EXPIRATION OF TEN DAYS, IF IT'S NOT BEEN VETOED, IT WOULD BUM EFFECTIVE. THE NEXT TIME TO REVIEW WOULD BE SEPTEMBER 7. IT WOULD NOT BECOME EFFECTIVE UNLESS IT'S OVER RIDDEN ON SEPTEMBER 8. >>COUN. BASSAN: SO, TEN BUSINESS DAYS OR CALENDAR DAYS? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR BASSAN, IT'S TEN CALENDAR DAYS. >>COUN. BASSAN: ONE FOLLOW UP BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO BE GIVING OUT THE WRONG INFORMATION. IS IT -- I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION AND I'VE BEEN TELLING PEOPLE, IF IN THE EVENT THE BILL IS NOT VETOED, AND LET'S SAY IT'S SIGNED. IS THERE TWO TO THREE DAYS THE CITY CLERK PUBLISHES IT BEFORE IT BECOMES ACTIVE? >> MR. ORDINANCES, THERE'S -- FIVE DAYS AFTER THE PUBLICATION. THE BILL YOU'RE CONSIDERING IS RESOLUTION AND THERE'S NO PUBLICATION REQUIREMENT. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT. YOU CAN SCRATCH THAT LAST PART OF WHAT I'VE BEEN TELLING YOU AND THE CITY CLERK DOESN'T HAVE TO PUBLISH IT FOR HIS RESOLUTION. THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION. IF I MAY CLOSE? SO, I WANT TO START BY POINTING OUT THAT I WAS AT THE SAME LUNCHEON WITH THE MAYOR AND MANY OTHER PEOPLE IN ALBUQUERQUE WHEN IT WAS ALSO A VERY BIG SURPRISE THAT CORONADO PARK WAS GOING TO BE SHUT DOWN. I'VE BEEN ASKED REPEATEDLY BY MANY PEOPLE DID YOU KNOW ABOUT THIS. WHAT'S YOUR PLAN. I SAID NO. I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THIS. AS A MATTER OF FACT, THE MONTH BEFORE, WE HAD SEEN THE PRESS CONFERENCES AND DIFFERENT MEDIA RELEASES AND HAD CONVERSATIONS WHERE WE WERE TOLD THAT CORONADO PARK WAS NOT GOING TO BE CONSIDERED FOR SHUTDOWN. I WAS UNAWARE THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN. HOWEVER, I'VE BEEN REPEATEDLY ASKED FROM PEOPLE NEAR THAT AREA TO DO EVERYTHING I CAN TO SHUT IT DOWN. IT IS A CATCH-22 TO HEAR FROM PEOPLE REGULARLY SAYING DO WHATEVER YOU CAN TO SHUT THIS DOWN. AND THEN TO HEAR PEOPLE SAY WHAT'S YOUR PLAN. I WANT TO MAKE SURE TO SAY I AGREE WITH AN ALL OF THE ABOVE APPROACH. I LIKE TO HEAR THAT. WHO DOESN'T LIKE TO HEAR THAT? WE NEED ALL THE TOOLS IN OUR TOOLBOX. AGAIN, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO RECOGNIZE BOTH SIDES OF THE STORY. AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO RECOGNIZE WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MAKING SURE THOSE WHO ARE UNHOUSED HAVE AN OPTION AND SOMEWHERE SAFE TO BE, WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE TO DO THAT WITHOUT TRAMING ON THE RIGHTS OF EVERYONE ELSE IN THE ALBUQUERQUE AREA. I'VE TRIED HARD NOT TO SPEAK A LOT. I WANT TO SHARE MY STORY SO PEOPLE CAN HEAR WHY COUNCILOR BASSAN CHANGED MY MIND. I AGREE WE'RE BACK PEDALING ON THINGS. BUT THERE'S A REASON I'M DOING IT. I THINK I HAVE REGRETS. AND I HAVE FRUSTRATION. ONE IS THAT I SURE WISHED WE WOULD HAVE PASSED THE BILL WE SHOULD HAVE HAD A PLAN. IT'S OVER AND DONE WITH. AND WE DIDN'T. I AGREE. THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN VERY HELPFUL FOR ALL OF US. THAT BEING SAID, I WAS VERY FOND AND I PROPOSED THE IDEA OF SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES. I THOUGHT THAT WAS A GOOD FIRST STEP FOR ALBUQUERQUE FOR NOT QUITE CREATING A CORONADO PARK. I NEVER PROMISED IT TO BE BEAUTIFUL, BUT I NEVER SAID IT WOULD BE VIOLENT AND DRAB AS CORONADO PARK. I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE SOMETHING FOR INSTEAD OF ALLOWING CARS AND TENTS, IT WOULD ALLOW FOR US TO SAY YOU HAVE TO GO TO A DESIGNATED LOT WHERE WHERIO HAVE A PLACE AND LOCATION. NEITHER HERE NOR THEY'RE. IT DIDN'T PASS COUNCIL. THE NEXT STEP WAS SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES. I WISH I WOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE KNOWN WHAT I DIDN'T KNOW THEN. I WISH I KNEW THEN WHAT I KNOW NOW. IF LIVING LOTS DIDN'T PASS, I SHOULD HAVE NEVER SUPPORTED SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES BECAUSE THAT WAS A STEP OR A STEP THREE. LIVING LOTS WAS A STEP ONE. AND YOU CAN'T GET TO SOMEWHERE ELSE WITHOUT SOME KIND OF RUDIMENTARY BEGINNING FIRST STEP. SO, AFTER I ENDED UP VOTING FOR SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES AND WE ENDED UP PASSING IT, THERE WAS SOME PRESS RELEASES THAT CAME OUT. THERE WAS NEWS CONFERENCES WHERE THE ADMINISTRATION HAD INDICATED THAT CORONADO WASN'T GOING TO CLOSE. THAT INDEED ENFORCEMENT WASN'T GOING TO CHANGE. NOT THAT THERE WAS EVER, I UNDERSTAND THERE WASN'T EVER REASON AND DIRECTION NOT TO ENFORCE LAWS. HOWEVER I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION IF WE HAD LIVING LOTS AND SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES THAT MEANT WE WOULD DO MORE FOR ENFORCING THE VERY LAWS THAT EXIST ON THE BOOKS AND TO HEAR THAT WAS NOT NECESSARILY THE NEW GOAL WAS PART OF WHAT ENDED UP STOPPING MY THOUGHT PROCESS FOR WHY DID -- OR STARTING MY PROCESS FOR WHY DID I DO THIS. MIX THAT IN TO THE OVERWHELMING, I'M NOT EXAGGEREXAGGERATING, OVERWHELMING COMMUNICATION FROM ALBUQUERQUE. NOT JUST DISTRICT FOUR. NOT JUST MY CONSTITUENTS. ALBUQUERQUE. WE DO HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO REPRESENT. I DO THINK WE NEED TO HELP THE UNHOUSED, AND I DO THINK WE NEED TO HELP THE BUSINESSES AND THE FAMILIES, WE DO NEED TO HAVE PARK AND LEVERAGE EVERYTHING WE POSSIBLY CAN. BUT WE HAVE TO RESPECT AS MUCH AS WE CAN EVERYBODY IN THE PROCESS. THAT INCLUDES RECOGNIZING WHEN SO MANY PEOPLE IN ALBUQUERQUE SAY THEY DON'T WANT THIS, WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO LISTEN TO THAT. THAT WAS WHAT WE SIGNED UP FOR. WE AGREE TO THAT. I DO WANT TO HELP. I WANT TO COME UP WITH A SOLUTION. I DON'T HAVE ONE. I'LL BE THE FIRST TO ADMIT. NOW THAT SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES IS DONE, I SAY YOU TELL ME. WE DO NEED TO GO AFTER DRUG DEALERS. I AGREE WITH COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. DRUG DEALING IS A HUGE THING. LET'S FOCUS ON THE BASICS. LET'S DO THAT LET'S GET GATEWAY OPEN, LET'S DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO SUPPORT THE NON-PROFITS. LET'S DO THE BASICS. LET'S KEEP THOSE AS OUR TOOL. RIGHT NOW, WE ALSO HAVE TO LISTEN TO THE PEOPLE IN ALBUQUERQUE AND EVEN THOUGH MANY IN SUPPORT OF SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES, WAY MORE ARE SAYING THEY DON'T WANT THEM. I AM GOING TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY AND SAY IN THE END OF THE MEETING IN JUNE, COUNCILOR JONES, YOU SAID IT JUST DIDN'T FEEL RIGHT. THIS DOESN'T FEEL RIGHT. I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. BENTON: WE'RE READY FOR A VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF R-56 RAISE YOUR HAND AND SAY YES. OPPOSED? [ INAUDIBLE ]. WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM C. COUNCILOR LEWIS. >>COUN. LEWIS: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. R-62 DIRECTING THE DEPARTMENT OF FINANCE AND SERVICES TO WORK IN CONJUNCTION WITH FAMILY AND COMMUNITY SERVICES REPAY FUNDS TO THE FEDERAL HOUSING AND RELATED TO THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECT. I MOVE A DUE PASS. >>COUN. GROUT: SECOND. >>COUN. LEWIS: MR. PRESIDENT, I HAVE AN AMENDMENT. I'LL MOVE ON PAGE, AFTER HIDE INSERT THE USING NONFEDERAL FUNDS. INSERT THE GENERAL FUND 110. CHANGE 122 MILLION. I MOVE APPROVAL OF THE FLOOR AMENDMENT. >>COUN. BENTON: SECOND FOR THE FLOOR AMENDMENT TO R-62. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. OPPOSED? THAT PASSES. BACK ON THE BILL. >>COUN. LEWIS: MR. PRESIDENT, THIS IS PROCEDURAL. IT'S FROM THE -- WE DID THIS IN THE BUDGET AND THERE WAS SUPPORT FROM EVERYBODY AGREEING ON THIS. WE WORKED TOGETHER WITH THE DIRECTOR PIERCE. THIS IS REALLY SOMETHING THAT THE DEPARTMENT ALONG WITH OUR STAFF HELPED DRAFT UP IN GOING THIS DIRECTION. THE IDEA IS TO BE ABLE TO MAKE SURE THE DOLLARS MATCHED OUR PRIORITY THAT WE SET. AND WHEN WE DID THE BUDGET AT THAT TIME. IF THE STAFF OR DEPARTMENT WANTS TO GIVE FURTHER EXPLANATION, WE CAN DO THAT. >>COUN. BENTON: WE DO HAVE FOLKS SIGNED UP. ONE PERSON SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. >> YES, MR. PRESIDENT. LAUREL --. IT LOOKS LIKE SHE'S NOT HERE. >>COUN. BENTON: COUNCILOR DAVIS. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. VERY BRIEFLY, I WANTED TO ASK THE SPONSOR AND MAYBE MR. RAEL. THIS IS UNUSUAL IN THAT WE HAVE THIS HABIT OF DOING IT AND UNDOING IT, I WANT TO BE SURE WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE. I THINK WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE CIBOLA LOOP PROJECT SINCE I STARTED YEARS AGO. THIS IS A LITTLE UNUSUAL. THIS IS BLOCK GRANTS WITH THE LAST COUNCILOR FOR A PARTICULAR PLAN FOR SENIOR HOUSING WHICH WE CERTAINLY NEED. I REALIZE AS I UNDERSTAND AND THIS IS WHERE I HAVE HELP FROM THE EXPERT, IT SEEMS LIKE IT HAD GONE OUT TO BID AT SOME POINT. AND I DIDN'T GERY -- RESPONSE. IT IS JUST ODD WE USE FEDERAL DOLLARS NOW WE REPAY THE FEDERAL DOLLARS. AND WE'RE GOING TO START A NEW PLAN. WHY ARE WE GOING BACK AND FORTH? >> MR. PRESIDENT, MAY I ASK DIRECTOR PIERCE AND HER STAFF TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF A HISTORICALAL CONTEXT OF PROJECT SO YOU'LL HAVE PERSPECTIVE. ACTUALLY MS. WALL. >> GOOD EVENING, MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR DAVIS. WE ACQUIRED THE CIBOLA LOOP SITE IN 2018 WITH $1.4 MILLION IN FUNDS. AND AT THE TIME, THERE WAS ANOTHER COUNCILOR FOR THE AREA. THE ORIGINAL DESIRE WAS TO DEVELOP AFFORDABLE HOMEOWNERSHIP UNITS ON THAT SITE. WE ACTUALLY ISSUED TWO RFP TO FIND NON-PROFIT DEVELOPER TO DEVELOP HOMANERSHIP ON THAT SITE BUT DID NOT RECEIVE ANY ELIGIBLE PROPOSAL. I WON'T GO INTO THE WEEDS. WE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY PROPOSALS THAT MET THE CRITERIA. SO, WE DECIDED TO SWITCH GEARS AND DO AN AFFORDABLE RENTAL HOUSING FOR SENIORS. WE LEASE RELEASED WE DID RECEIVE PROPOSALS AND SELECTED ONE AND WE'RE PREPARING TO WORK AN AWARD BUT CANCELED THE RFP FOR TECHNICAL REASONS. WE WERE THEN THINKING WE WOULD ISSUE RFP FOR AFFORDABLE RENTAL HOUSING BUT AT THAT TIME HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH COUNCILOR LEWIS AND THE DISCUSSION WAS MADE NOT TO MAKE AFFORDABLE HOUSING AT THE SITE. WE MAKE FUNDS AVAILABLE FOR ANOTHER ACTIVITY. >>COUN. DAVIS: MR. PRESIDENT, THANK YOU. I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT'S NOT EXACTLY THE WRITE UP OF THE COUNCIL READS. IT SEEMS TO READ THAT IT WAS GOING TO BE A SENIOR HOUSING PROJECT AND IT SAYS SINCE THAT TIME IT WAS UNSUCCESSFULLY GONE FOR RP -- RFP. IT DOESN'T MENTION AN RFP THAT WAS SUCCESSFUL. IT SEEMS THE SENIOR PROJECT WAS MARKETABLE OR DOABLE. I WANT TO REFER TO THE COUNCILOR AND IT'S THEIR DISTRICT. WE HAVE SUCH A HOUSING CRISIS FOR THOSE ON THE VULNERABLE EDGES. I WONDER IF HAVING FEDERAL DOLLARS IN HAND AND A PROJECT THAT'S PLANNED AND SEEMS TO BE IT COULD BE OUT FOR RFP AND ANSWERED AGAIN I JUST WONDER IF OUR PRIORITY SHOULD BE HOUSING OVER A POOL AT THE MOMENT. OR IF THIS IS GOING TO FURTHER DELAY DEVELOPMENT OF THE SIDE. WE HAVE TO RESET AND REDESIGN A WHOLE PROJECT. IT'S KIND OF SEEMING LIKE WE HAVE A PROJECT READY TO GO THAT HELPS THE HOUSING CRISIS. I WONDER IF THIS IS THE BEST MOVE. I ASK THE COUNCILOR IF THERE'S A REASON WE SWAP THIS OUT FOR A SWIMMING POOL OR IF THERE'S AN OPTION TO DO COMMUNITY ENHANCEMENTS IN ANOTHER WAY OR AT THIS LOCATION AND STILL DO THE HOUSING FUNDING BY THE FEDS. >>COUN. LEWIS: I THINK THAT WAS A GOOD SUMMARY. THANKS FOR THE SUMMARY THERE. AND ALSO WANT TO POINT OUT THERE'S A LONG PEERDZ -- PERIOD OF TIME AFTER THE LAST PROJECT AND IN BETWEEN THAT TIME AND ASKED QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PROJ AND THE WAY TO GO ABOUT THIS. AND WE WERE ALSO REALLY OVER I BELIEVE THE ALLOWABLE TIME THAT HUD GIVES US TO COME UP WITH OTHER PLANS AND PUT THOSE DOLLARS TO WORK WHERE WE COULD HAVE LOST THOSE DOLLARS. AT THE TIME, WE HAD NO REAL PLANS OR DIRECTION FOR IT. AND NO SUPPORT AT THE TIME FROM THE COMMUNITY AROUND. LET ME DESCRIBE THE COMMUNITY AROUND. THE LARGEST CREATION OF APARTMENTS IN THE NORTHWEST SIDE IS SPECIFICALLY ADJACENT TO THAT PROPERTY. THERE IS SUBSIDIZED HOUSING, SUBSIDIZED APARTMENTS ALL IN THAT AREA. IT'S ONE OF THE HIGHEST CREATIONS ON -- CONCENTRATIONS ON THE WEST SIDE OF MULTI-HOUSING AND. AND NOT A LOT OF SERVICES. I THINK IT WAS CLEAR TO ME THAT WE NEED THE SERVICES TO BE ABLE TO SERVE THE PEOPLE IN THAT AREA IN THE FIRST PLACE. WE ALSO STARTED TALKING ABOUT HOW ELSE COULD WE USE HUD DOLLARS FOR SERVICES. THERE WAS IDEAS THAT CAME UP WITH THAT. BUT THEN THERE WAS SOME IDEAS ABOUT SOME OTHER AREAS OF THE CITY AND OTHER COUNCILORS HAD IDEAS ABOUT HOW WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO PUT THEM TO WORK QUICKLY. AND THERE WAS PROPOSALS IN THE BUDGET. AT THAT POINT, I SAID LET'S FREE THIS MONEY UP SO IT CAN BE USED FOR WHATEVER THE NEXT NEED THAT IS READY TO GO. THAT WAS THE PLAN RIGHT THERE. THE HISTORY OF THIS, THIS IS THE CITY PURCHASED ABOUT FIVE YEARS ALL OF THE PROPERTY FOR MULTI-GEN CENTER, POOL, LIBRARY. WE DON'T HAVE A LIBRARY ON DISTRICT FIVE, AND THERE'S NO MULTI-GENERATIONAL FACILITY ON DISTRICT FIVE. AND THERE'S A COUNTY-OWNED POOL IN THE AREA. THESE ARE ADDITIONAL PROPERTY THAT THE DEPARTMENT BOUGHT A FEW YEARS AGO. AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT HELPS. IT'S THE CONTEXT OF IT. AND LET ME SAY THIS TOO, NEVER NEVER OPPOSED ANY KIND OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECT. I'VE APPROVED EVERY SINGLE ONE THAT CAME BEFORE ME. I WOULD LIKE TO WORK WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF LOCATING ANOTHER PIECE OF PROPERTY IN MY DISTRICT. THIS IS NOT ABOUT OPPOSITION TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING. THIS IS ABOUT THIS PIECE REALLY FITTING WITH THIS KIND OF PROJECT. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I APPRECIATE THAT, COUNCILOR LEWIS. I WON'T BELABOR THIS POINT. I FEEL LIKE WE A PROJECT AND IT'S FUNDED AND IT'S AN URGENT NEED. EVEN IF WE REVERT THE FUNDS AND PAY BACK THE FEDS AT THE COST OF $1.4 MILLION WE DON'T HAVE THE FUNDING OR A PLAN FOR ALL THOSE OTHER THINGS TO A PLACE WHERE WE CAN START MOVING ON THEM. WE JUST FUNDED ONE BIG POOL AND THAT TOOK HOW MEANS. FIVE OR SIX YEARS TO GET GOING. I'M NOT OPPOSED TO ANY THINGS I THINK THEY'RE NOT READY YET. I WOULD THINK WE OUGHT TO STICK WITH THE PLAN WE HAVE AND REJECT THIS RESOLUTION. >>COUN. LEWIS: WE HAVE A MULTI-GEN CENTER THAT IS FAR ALONG IN THE DESIGN AN$8 MILLION THAT'S ALREADY BANKED FOR IT. WE JUST NEED A FEW MILLION DOLLARS OVER THE NEXT YEAR. I MEAN, THE AREA IS GOING TO BE BUILT IN A WAY THAT WE ORIGINALLY INTENDED. IT'S GOING TO PROVIDE GREAT SERVICES TO PEOPLE THAT CANNOT AFFORD IT. LOT OF PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THAT AREA. HONESTLY, BEEN WORKING TOGETHER WITH THE DEPARTMENT ON THIS. MY INTENTION IS TO JUST SAY LET'S COME UP WITH THE BEST THING POSSIBLE FOR THIS MOVING FORWARD. THAT'S BEEN THE ISSUE. >>COUN. BENTON: I'D LIKE TO ASK THE DEPARTMENT A QUESTION. IF WE DO THIS WITH THE FEDS, ARE WE GETTING ANY DEMERITS FOR DOING IT THIS WAY? >>COUN. SANCHEZ: JUST A QUICK COMMENT. I'LL TAKE AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN MY DISTRICT. >>COUN. LEWIS: IF YOU FEEL LIKE YOU UNDERSTAND THE DISTRICT BETTER THAN I DO AND THIS AREA, THAT'S -- YOU'RE GOING TO VOTE ON THIS BOARD. >> MR. PRESIDENT, WE HAVE COMMUNICATED WITH LOCAL HUD FIELD OFFICE ABOUT OUR INTENTION AND WE WILL BE ABLE TO REPAY THESE FUNDS TO A LOCAL ACCOUNT AND THEN USE THEM FOR A DIFFERENT ELIGIBLE ACTIVITY. I THINK AS LONG AS WE IDENTIFY AND EXTEND THE FUNDS RELATIVELY TIMELY ON A NEW ACTIVITY WE SHOULD BE FINE. WE WON'T GET INTO ANY HOT-WATER. >>COUN. BENTON: OKAY, COULD THAT BE ON ANY ELIGIBLE PROJECT IN THE CITY? >> CORRECT. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I REALLY LIKE THAT CIBOLA LOOP AREA. I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE SOMETHING REALLY SPECIAL. AND I LIKE THE PROJECTS THAT COUNCILOR LEWIS WAS TALKING ABOUT. I ACTUALLY THINK IT'S SITUATED IN AN AREA WHERE WE HAVE THE MALL, WE HAVE THE COSTCO THAT DRAG PEOPLE FROM RIO RANCHO OVER THAT AREA WOULD BE PERFECT FOR THAT. DRAG PEOPLE OVER FOR REALLY NICE AMENITIES IF WE PUT THAT THERE. THAT LOOP IS COOL. WHEN YOU DRIVE THROUGH IT, ME ASK COUNCILOR PEÑA AND COUNCILOR LEWIS ONE DAY WENT FOR A CRUISE ON THE WEST SIDE AND THAT AREA IS SO NICE AND IT WOULD BE REALLY GOOD PLACE FOR WORLD CLASS AMENITIES. I AGREE WITH COUNCILOR LEWIS IN REFERENCE TO REALLY NICE AMENITIES IN THAT AREA. >>COUN. BENTON: ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? COUNCILOR LEWIS TO CLOSE. >>COUN. LEWIS: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. THANKS FOR THE DEPARTMENT FOR WORKING TOGETHER ON THIS. AND JUST COMING UP WITH THE BEST POSSIBLE PLANS. AND MROOK -- LOOK FORWARDS TO IDENTIFYING AREAS FOR MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN MY DISTRICT. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BENTON: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. OPPOSED? 7-2 VOTE. WE'LL MOVE TO MYSELF AND COUNCILOR JONES. RESCINDING R-2027 AND ESTABLISHING COMMUNITY PLANNING AREA ASSESSMENT FOR 2022-2027. I MOVE A DUE PASS. AND A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR DAVIS. THANK YOU. AND I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAVE ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. REALLY QUICKLY, WE'LL HEAR FROM MS. SCHULTZ ON WHAT THIS IS ABOUT. WE HAD A GOOD DISCUSSION AT LUPZ. I THINK WE SEE THE LAY OF THE LAND AND WE'RE TRYING TO ROLL WITH IT. >> MR. PRESIDENT, CLRZ, R-22-42 PROPOSED TO RE-ESTABLISH THE ORDER OF COMMUNITY PLANNING AREA ASSESSMENT AMCH -- THEY SET THE SCHEDULE IN 2020. WHERE THE DEPARTMENT WOULD BE IN EACH COMMUNITY PLANNING AREA. FOR THE FIRST FOUR YEARS BOOTS ON THE GROUND TALKING WITH THE COMMUNITY AND HEARING WHAT THEY NEEDED AND PUTTING ALL THE RECOMMENDATION INTO THE ASSESSMENT REPORT THAT WILL EVENTUALLY MAKE ITS WAY THROUGH THE ENVIRONMENTAL PLANNING COMMISSION. THAT WOULD HAPPEN THE FIRST FOUR YEARS AND THE FIFTH YEAR WOULD BE A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE BASED ON RECOMMENDATIONS AND THOSE ASSESSMENTS. A COUPLE THINGS HAPPENED SINCE 2020 THAT MADE THAT SCHEDULE TO REALIZE. THE FIRST ONE BEING THAT DURING 2020 AND 2021 IT WAS STILL HARD TO GET IN FRONT OF COMMUNITIES BECAUSE OF COVID. THE DEPARTMENT FEEL LIKE THEY COULD MAKE THE CONTACT THEY WANTED TO WHILE COVID WAS STILL GOING STRONG AND FOLKS WERE STAYING AT HOME. TWO, STAFFING CONTINUES TO BE AN ISSUE FOR THE LONG REACH PLANNING DEPARTMENT FOR A MYRIAD OF REASONS. SO THE TEAMS NEEDED TO REALLY DO THESE COMMUNITY PLANNING AREA ASSESSMENTS IS JUST NOT STABBED. -- ESTABLISHED. PROPOSING RAISES FOR STAFF PLANNERS. THERE'S A HOPE EVER THE NEXT SIX MONTHS THE DEPARTMENT WILL BE STAFFED UP. THIRD, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, THE ORIGINAL SCHEDULE AS PROPOSED THE DEPARTMENT DOESN'T TEAL -- FEEL LIKE IT'S ENOUGH TIME TO BE IN EACH COMMUNITY. IT PROPOSED BEING IN EACH COMMUNITY PLANNING ASSESSMENT FOR FOUR MONTHS AT A TIME. UNDER THE NEW SCHEDULE, THEY WILL BE IN EACH COMMUNITY FOR CLOSE TO A YEAR AT A TIME. SO, THE DEPARTMENT HAS ALREADY BEGAN A COUPLE OF PLANNING AREA ASSESSMENTS UNDER THE FOUR-MONTH SCHEDULE AND LEARNED FOUR MONTHS IS NOT ENOUGH TIME TO TALK TO PEOPLE, DRAFT THE ASSESSMENT AND MOST IMPORTANTLY BRING THAT ASSESSMENT BACK IT THE PEOPLE THEY WERE TALKING TO TO SAY DID WE GET THIS RIGHT. THE FEEDBACK LOOP COULDN'T HAPPEN IN THE FOUR MONTH CYCLE. THE ENTIRE SCHEDULE IS PROPOSED TO BE EXTENDED. IN 2020 THE COUNCIL APPROVED A PIEFB- -- FIVE YEAR CYCLE. THE DEPARTMENT IS NOW HAVING AN-EIGHT YEAR CYCLE. THEY SEND THE FIRST YEARS DO DOING THE WORK AND BRINGING THE REPORTS THROUGH THIS BODY. AND SPENDING THE LAST TWO YEARS DOING A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE. MORE TIME IN EACH COMMUNITY, MORE TIME FOR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE, AND ALSO BUILT-IN TIME TO START THE CYCLE OVER AGAIN. TO DO THE PRIORITY NEEDS THAT ESTABLISHED THE ORDER OF CPA AND DO RETOOLING TO REALLY LOOK BACK AND SEE IF IT WORKED FOR THE COMMUNITY AND THIS IS WHAT WE NEED TO BE DOING FOR THE NEXT CYCLE. WITH THAT SAID, COUNCILOR BENTON, THE PROPOSAL TONIGHT IS TO RESCIND THE RESOLUTION THAT THE BODY PASSED IN 2020 ESTABLISHING THE FIVE-YEAR CYCLE AND REPLACING IT WITH EIGHT-YEAR CYCLE THAT THE DEPARTMENT HAS ALREADY STARTED THIS YEAR IN 2022. I'LL SAY WE HAVE MUCAYLA FROM THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT. IF YOU HAVE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT THEY'VE DONE TO DATE. SHE WOULD BE TECHNICAL EXPERT. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, THIS MIGHT END UP BEING MORE RHETORICAL THAN NOT. AFTER EIGHT YEARS, AT WHAT POINT DO WE JUST NEED -- WHEN IS THE TIMELINE BECOME EFFECTIVE VERSUS DRAGGING IT OUT FOR SO LONG IT'S NULL AND VOID AND IRRELEVANT? THE FIRST YEAR, EIGHT OR NINE OR TEN YEARS LATER IS IT STILL RELEVANT? >> MADAM CHAIR, COUNCILOR BASSAN, I THINK COMMUNITY PLANNING CAN BE A LONG-TERM PROJECT. CERTAINLY NOT AS LONG AS A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. WHICH IS 20-30 YEAR VISION. WITHIN THAT VISION IF WE'RE GETTING INTO COMMUNITIES MORE THAN ONCE A DECADE THAT'S CERTAINLY MUCH MORE OFTEN THAN WE HAVE BEEN IN COMMUNITIES TO DATE. I KNOW THAT EIGHT YEARS DOES SOUND LIKE A LOT FOR FOLKS WHO ARE WAITING FOR THE CITY TO INTO THE COMMUNITY AND ASK ABOUT WHAT'S NOT WORKING WELL. IF WE WANT TO DO IT RIGHT AND LEGITIMATELY -- THE SCHEDULE IS WHAT THE DEPARTMENT REQUESTED. >>COUN. BASSAN: I APPRECIATE THAT. BECAUSE I THINK WE SHOULD INVEST TIME IN THE COMMUNITIES. ALTHOUGH MY DISTRICT IS TOWARD THE END OF THIS EIGHT-YEAR TIMELINE, THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO SAY ABOUT IT WHEN WE GET THERE. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BENTON: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. WE'LL GO TO A VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES. OPPOSED? THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. WE'LL GO TO THE NEXT ITEM. R-61 RELATING TO REDEVELOPMENT AND SELL OF METROPOLITAN REDEVELOPMENT PROJECT WITHIN THE DOWNTOWN 2025MRA CONSISTENT WITH THE TERMS OF DOWNTOWN 2025 METROPOLITAN PLAN. APPROVING THE APPLICATION ENTITLED VILLA LLC. THE APPLICATION. AUTHORIZING THE AQUAS WITHITION OF LAND AND CONSTRUCTION WITHIN THE AREA. THIS IS R-61. I MOVE A DUE PASS. THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND. AND ANY DISCUSSION? COUNCILORS, THIS IS A METROPOLITAN REDEVELOPMENT. I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE ANYONE HERE THAT CAN SPEAK TO THAT. I SEE MR. BRUNER IS AVAILABLE. ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS? THIS IS THE OLD PART OF THE CHURCH FACILITIES OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH DOWNTOWN. A DOWNTOWN DEVELOPER HAS HAD SUCCESS AND BRING SOME DEVELOPMENT INTO DOWNTOWN. I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. WE'LL GO TO A VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. OPPOSED? THAT PASSES. WE HAVE ONE OTHER ITEM OF BUSINESS. THIS IS APPROVAL OF THE REVISED COMMITTEE APPOINTMENT. I MOVE APPROVAL. THOSE ARE IN YOUR iPAD. THESE ARE CHANGES OF THE POSITION ON A COMMITTEE THAT COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN IS GOING TO TAKE OVER FOR ME. THANK YOU. MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS? IF NOT, WE'LL GO TO A VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES, RAISE YOUR HAND AND SAY YES. OPPOSED? THAT PASSES. THERE BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS, THIS THIS CITY COUNCIL MEETING IS ADJOURNED.