. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYBODY. WELCOME BACK TO TAMPA CITY COUNT. CALL THE ROLL. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE. >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE. >>NAYA YOUNG: HERE. >>LUIS VIERA: HERE. >>BILL CARLSON: HERE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HERE. >>CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU. WELCOME BACK. I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR A MOTION TO OPEN THE 1:30 PUBLIC HEARINGS. A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA. A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. OPPOSED. AYES HAVE IT. THE HEARINGS THIS AFTERNOON ARE QUASI JUDICIAL. IF YOU WERE HERE TO SPEAK AT A PUBLIC HEARING RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND BE SWORN IN BY OUR CLERK. [SWEARING IN] >> I DO. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ITEM 101. D >> GOOD AFTERNOON, CITY COUNCIL, DANA CROSBY-COLLIER. ITEM NUMBER 101 IS THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION MEETING. RELATED TO PROPERTY 842 SOUTH BOULEVARD. IN THE INITIAL APPLICATION TO THE ARC, THE APPLICANT REQUESTED APPROVAL OF THREE VARIANCES AND THREE CERTIFICATES OF APPROPRIATENESS. LATTER WAS FOR ADDITIONS TO THE PROPERTY. AT THE TIME OF THE ARC MEETING, TWO CERTIFICATES OF APPROPRIATENESS AND ONE VARIANCE WAS GRANTED. HOWEVER, BECAUSE THE ARC FOUND THAT THE APPLICANT FAILED TO MEET ALL SIX CRITERIA ON TWO OF THE VARIANCES, THE ARC DENIED THOSE. TWO VARIANCES BEFORE YOU TODAY FOR REVIEW IS A VARIANCE OF A VEHICULAR ALLEY ENTRANCEWAY SETBACK FROM 18 FOOT TO 6'6" INCHES. VARIANCE FOR THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE, NORTH POSEIDON YARD SETBACK FROM THREE FOOT TO 1.95 INCHES. RELATED REQUEST FOR APPROPRIATENESS CERTIFICATE THAT WAS WITHDRAWN AFTER THESE VARIANCES WERE DENIED. ON FEBRUARY 20, THE OWNER AGENT SOL FLEISCHMAN APPEALED TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND THIS MATTER WAS SET FOR PUBLIC HEARING AT YOUR MARCH 5 MEETING. SO YOU WILL FIND IN THE BACK-UP MATERIALS FOR THIS ITEM, WE INCLUDED A COPY OF THE INITIAL APPLICATION, THE STAFF'S REPORT, STAFF'S PHOTO PRESENTATION TO THE ARC, PUBLIC COMMENT, THE ARC MEETING MINUTES, ARC WRITTEN DECISIONS. OWNER'S PETITION FOR REVIEW AND HIS BACK-UP AND THE OWNER'S AFFIDAVIT ESTABLISHING COMPLIANCE WITH THE CITY'S NOTICE REQUIREMENTS. YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU A PACKET THAT INCLUDES THE HEARING PROCEDURES FOR TODAY'S MEETING, AS WELL AS SAMPLE MOTIONS. THERE WILL BE TWO MOTIONS ULTIMATELY AT THE END OF THIS PRESENTATION. I ALSO INCLUDED EXCEPTION 27-61 OF THE CODE WHICH IS THE REVIEW PROCEDURES AND SECTION 27-144 OF THE CODE, WHICH IS ARC VARIANCE CRITERIA. PURSUANT TO SECTION 27-61-BEJ-2, CITY COUNCIL WILL APPLY A DE NOVO STANDARD OF REVIEW IN THIS MATTER. SO YOUR DECISION IS NOT LIMITED TO THE RECORD CREATED DURING THE ARC MEETING AND YOU MAY TABLE PUBLIC TESTIMONY TO ACCEPT NEW EVIDENCE. IN YOUR REVIEW, CITY COUNCIL SHOULD STAND IN THE SHOES OF THE ARC AND APPLY ALL APPLICABLE ORDINANCES TO THE FACT BEFORE ARRIVING AT YOUR DECISION. AGAIN, WE HAVE TWO SEPARATE VARIANCES BEFORE YOU TODAY. VARIANCE OF THE VEHICULAR ALLEYWAY FROM 18 FEET TO 8.6 INCHES AND VARIANCE NORTH SIDE YARD SETBACK FROM THREE FEET TO 12795 INCHES. BASED ON THE FAILURE TO MEET ALL THE CRY THEORY I CAN'T CAN, THE IN ARC DENIED THE TWO VARIANCE. HARDSHIP CRITERIA FOUND AT 27-114. NUMBER ONE, THE ALLEGED PRACTICAL DIFFICULTIES ARE UNIQUE AND SINGULAR TO THIS PROPERTY OR WITH RESPECT TO THE STRUCTURE OR BUILDING THERE ON AND NOT SUFFERED -- NOT COMMONLY SUFFERED WITH OTHER PROPERTIES, STRUCTURES OR BUILDING SIMILARLY SITUATED. HARDSHIP OR PRACTICAL DIFFICULTY DOES NOT RESULT FROM THE ACTIONS OF THE APPLICANT. SELF-CREATED HARDSHIP OR PRACTICAL DIFFICULTY DOES NOT JUSTIFY A VARIANCE. THAT IS ITEM NUMBER TWO. NUMBER THREE, THE VARIANCE, IF GRANTED, DOES NOT SUBSTANTIALLY INTERFERE OR INJURY THE HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE OF THE PROPERTIES AFFECTED BE THE ALLOWANCE OF THE VARIANCE. NUMBER FOUR, THE VARIANCE IS IN HARMONY WITH AND SERVES THE GENERAL INTALENTED PURPOSE OF TAMPA'S LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AND THE ADOPTED COMP PLAN. NUMBER FIVE, ALLOWING THE VARIANCE WILL RESULT IN SUBSTANTIAL JUSTICE BEING DONE CONSIDERING THE PUBLIC BENEFITS INTENDED TO BE SECURED BY THE CODE AND THE INDIVIDUAL HARDSHIP AND PRACTICAL DIFFICULTIES THAT WILL BE SUFFERED DUE TO THE FAILURE OF COUNCIL TO GRANT THE VARIANCE. NUMBER 6, THE VARIANCE, IF GRANTED, WILL ALLOW A DEVELOPMENT CONSISTENT WITH THE DESIGN PATTERN AND THE PATTERN OF DEVELOPMENT IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT -- IN THIS CASE THE HYDE PARK HISTORIC DISTRICT. INDIVIDUAL FINDINGS ON BOTH VARIANCES, ARC OF THE SELF-CREATED HARDSHIP AND SUBSECTIONS SIX. THAT IS DEVELOPMENT CONSISTENT WITH THE DESIGN STANDARDS FOR HYDE PARK. IN OTHER WORDS, THE ARC -- EXACTLY WHAT I JUST SAID. AFTER CONSIDERING ALL THE EVIDENCE INTRODUCED IN TODAY'S HEARING INCLUDING THE CODE PROVISION THAT THE ARC CONSIDERED IN MAKING THE DECISION, CITY COUNCIL MAY AFFIRM OR APPROVE THE ACC DECISION WHICH IS TO DENY THE VARIANCES, OVERTURN THE ARC'S DECISIONS AND GRANT THE VARIANCES OR REMAND THE MATTER BACK TO THE ARC WITH DIRECTIONS INDICATING A BASIS FOR YOUR REMAND. TWO MOTIONS WILL BE REQUIRED, AS I MENTIONED, BECAUSE TWO VARIANCE DENIALS THAT ARE NOW SUBMITTED FOR REVIEW. JOHN MARSH FROM TRANSPORTATION AND RON VILA FROM HISTORIC PRESERVATION ARE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR ASSIST YOU IN YOUR DISCUSSIONS. I AM AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AS WELL. AND AT THIS TIME, I WILL TURN IT OVER TO RON SO YOU CAN HEAR FROM HISTORIC PRESERVATION STAFF. >>RON VILA: GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL. RON VILA. I AM A PLANNER WITH HISTORIC PRESENTATION. I WOULD LIKE TO BRING EVERYTHING INTO FOCUS FOR YOU. AS DANA STA STATED, ARC-26-000000-97. WE RECEIVED AN APPLICATION ON DECEMBER 16, 2025. STAND WENT TO THE ARC FEBRUARY 2, 2026. THERE WERE MULTIPLE REQUESTS. THERE WAS A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS APPROVED FOR PRIMARY STRUCTURE WITH AN ADDITION ALONG WITH THREE VARIANCES. THIS ISPROPERTY IN QUESTION. 842 SOUTH BOULEVARD. YOU SEE THE TRIANGULAR-SHAPED LOT HERE THAT HAS CHALLENGES. THIS IS THE PRIMARY STRUCTURE WHICH WAS HERE. THE ADDITION TO THE PRIMARY STRUCTURE WAS IN THE BACK, BUT WE WILL FOCUS ON THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE. BEFORE I ZOOM IN ON THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO PROVIDE YOU WITH SOME PHOTO PRESENTATIONS. PROPERTY IN QUESTION IS CIRCLED AND HIGHLIGHTED IN THE GREEN. IT IS ON SOUTH BOULEVARD. IT IS JUST OFF OF BAYSHORE BOULEVARD. YOU SEE THE GEOMETRY OF THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION. AND THERE IS AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE IN THE BACK. THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE THAT IS THERE IS THE ONE WE ARE DISCUSSING THIS AFTERNOON. THIS IS THE HYDE PARK VICINITY MAP FOR THE LOCAL DISTRICT. YOU SEE THE APPROXIMATE LOCATION WHERE IT IS AT. AND AN OVERHEAD AERIAL. AN ALLY THAT RUNS THROUGH THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY. FOCUSING ON THE PRIMARY STRUCTURE, JUST A COUPLE OF SHOTS SO YOU GET THE INSPIRATION OF THE VERNACULAR OF THE PRIMARY STRUCTURE. THIS IS THE FRONT ELEVATION. AND THIS IS THE FRONT AND THE SOUTH SIDE, FOCUSING ON THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE. THIS IS FROM SOUTH BOULEVARD LOOKING INTO THE PROPERTY. PRIMARY STRUCTURE, DETACHED ACCESSORY STRUCTURE, WITH A GARAGE DOOR OFF THE FRONT. YOU HAVE A PORTE COCHERE THAT THE VEHICLE HAS TO GO DOWN. GET CLOSER TO THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE. THIS IS THE FRONT. I WILL SHOW YOU DRAWINGS OF WHAT THEY PRESENTED. A LITTLE VISOR THAT IS A ONE-STORY ADDITION OFTEN THE FRONT, AND THAT PORTION OF THE FRONT, THE LOWER SECTION IS EXPANDED TO HOUSE A VEHICLE. THIS IS THE FRONT ELEVATION AND THE SIDE OF THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE. THIS IS GOING TO BE MODIFIED WITH THAT VISOR AND SMALL ADDITION TO THE FRONT. MOVING TO THE REAR OF THAT DETACHED STRUCTURE, THIS LITTLE FOR STORAGE WILL BE REMOVED AND THE REQUEST IS TO COME IN OFF THE ALLEY AND PUT A GARAGE DOOR HERE. THIS IS LOOKING DOWN THE ALLEY. THIS IS FROM BOULEVARD LOOKING DOWN THE ALLEY, AS WE CONTINUE DOWN THE ALLEY, I WANTED TO SHOW YOU SOME CURB CUTS OFF THE ALLEY THAT EXIST TODAY. THIS IS THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION OVER HERE. AS WE CONTINUE DOWN THE ALLEY, YOU SEE VEHICULAR ACCESS TO A PROPERTY THAT FACES BAYSHORE. THE ALLEY AND THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION. THE LITTLE LEAN TO THAT IS BEING REQUESTED TO BE REMOVED. AND THE INSULATION OF THE GARAGE DOOR HERE. AND ONCE AGAIN, GOING BACK TO THE SUBJECT SITE, THIS IS THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE THAT IS THERE. THERE ARE THREE VARIANCES THAT DANA WENT OVER. BUT TO FOCUS ON THOSE. VARIANCE NUMBER ONE IS TO ADD TO THE FRONT, WHICH IS IN THE GRAY, SO THE CAR CAN FIT IN THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE AS INDICATED BY THE DRAWINGS. THIS ONE WAS DENIED. SECOND VARIANCE WAS APPROVED TO VEST IN THE EXISTING CONDITION. AND THEN THE THIRD ONE OFF THE REAR THAT WAS DENIED AS WELL WAS A VEHICULAR ACCESS COMING DOWN THE ALLEY, GOING INTO THE GARAGE WITH THE NEW GARAGE DOOR. THEY DON'T HAVE THE DISTANCE THAT TRANSMIT THE IS LOOKING FOR. AND MR. MARSH IS HERE IF YOU WANT SOME SPECIFICS. THESE ARE THE DRAWINGS THAT WERE SHOWN AT THE ARC. THIS IS THE FRONT ELEVATION. LOOKING DOWN THE VEHICULAR ACCESS, DOWN THE DRIVEWAY, THIS IS EXISTING. YOU HAVE THE GARAGE DOOR. AND I TALKED ABOUT THE LI LITTLE VISOR THEY ARE TRYING TO PUT IN THERE AND BUMPING IT OUT TOWARD THE STREET TO ACCOMMODATE THE VEHICLE. AND THIS IS THE THAT I SHOWED THE LITTLE LEAN TO FOR STORAGE THAT WILL BE REMOVED AND THE INSTALLATION OF THE GARAGE DOOR OFF THE ALLEY. THIS IS LOOKING AT THE DRAWINGS AS WELL. THIS IS LOOKING AT THE LITTLE BUMP-OUT TOWARD THE FRONT TO HOUSE THE AUTOMOBILE -- TO ADDED THAT ADDITIONAL INTERIOR SQUARE FOOT. JUST TO REFOCUS, I BLEW EVERYTHING UP FOR YOU SO IT IS EASIER TO READ. THE DIMENSIONS ARE THERE. JUST TO LET YOU KNOW THAT WHEN VARIANCES COME FORWARD TO THE ARC, STAFF DOES NOT OPINE ON THOSE. IT IS QUICKLY THE FINDING OF FACT THAT DANA READ INTO THE RECORD. AND I DO HAVE THEIR HARDSHIP HERE. AND THE -- THE DENIAL LETTERS. THAT CONCLUDES MY PORTION OF THIS PRESENTATION. I WILL BE HEAR TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. IF YOU NEED THESE IMAGES FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. >>LYNN HURTAK: WHAT IS THE SIZE OF THE GARAGE CURRENTLY? >>RON VILA: WE TALKED ABOUT THAT OUTSIDE. I THINK THE INTERI DOR FROM THE FRONT TO THE BACK IS 15 FOOT. >>LYNN HURTAK: CURRENTLY? >>RON VILA: CURRENTLY. THIS IS THE ADDITION THEY ARE TRYING TO DO TO ALLOW FOR -- FOR A STANDARD CAR. >>LYNN HURTAK: WHAT HAPPENED -- WHAT IS THE -- HOW MUCH ADDITION DO THEY WANT TO ADD? >>RON VILA: I WILL LET THE ACT TALKING ABOUT THAT, BUT IT APPEARS TO BE ABOUT FIVE FOOT. NOT A DIMENSION ON THIS PLAN. >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY. AND HOW OLD IS THIS STRUCTURE? >>RON VILA: A CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE THAT DATES BACK TO THE EARLY 1900s. INDICATED ON THE SANBORN MAP. AND THE ONE ON THE SANBORN MAP IS THIS STRUCTURE. IT IS A CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE. >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHAT IS THE OBJECTION FROM THE ARC BOARD FOR VARIANCE NUMBER ONE. >>RON VILA: NUMBER ONE, IT FAILED TO MEET -- FAILED TO MEET THE BURDEN FOR CRITERIA TWO AND CRITERIA SIX WITH RESPECT TO THE PRESENTATION. AND THOSE. >> WE GOT THEM HERE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. >>LYNN HURTAK: SO I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT -- IF YOU CAN PUTTING -- THE SITE PLAN BACK UP. WAS THIS DO THEY HAVE THE PROPER DIVISION BETWEEN THE GARAGE AND THE MAIN HOUSE WITH THE ADDITION. THEY HAVE THE FIVE FEET? >>RON VILA: ALL CODE IS REQUESTING IS FIVE FOOT. THEY HAVE A DIMENSION LINE OF 5 FOOT -- >>LYNN HURTAK: FOUR INCHES. I GUESS I AM -- I MEAN, I AM NOT -- I AM NOT GOING TO OPINE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NEXT, THANK YO YOU. >> GOOD AFTERNOON. SOL FLEISCHMAN JR. 324 HYDE PARK AVENUE, TAMPA, FLORIDA. I AM AN ARCHITECT, FLEISCHMAN, GARCIA, MELOSKY. AND A LITTLE BIT OF MY BACKGROUND. FOUNDING MEMBER HE THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION BACK IN THE 1909s. CHAIRMAN FOR MOST OF THE YEARS. I AM FOUNDING BOARD MEMBER OF THE HAD HISTORIC TAMPA PRESERVATION BOARD. SERVED ON THAT FOR 20 YEARS, HISTORIC PRESERVATION IS MY LOVE AND PASSION. AND ONE OTHER BIT -- WHAT INTERESTED ME OF THIS HOUSE 842 SOUTH BOULEVARD IS THAT I ACTUALLY WAS BORN IN TAMPA HEIGHTS HOSPITAL, BUT CAME HOME TO 849 SOUTH BOULEVARD RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET WHERE MY GRAND PARENTS LIVED AND MY PARENTS LIVED FOR TWO YEARS. SO I GREW UP MY FIRST TWO YEARS ACROSS THE STREET. SO WE HAVE DONE A REALLY NICE ADDITION TO THIS -- THIS HOME. AND WE GOT TRIPPED UP A LITTLE BIT BY THE CONTRIBUTING ACCESSORY GARAGE STRUCTURE WHICH WAS PROBABLY BUILT IN 1929 WITH THE ORIGINAL HOUSE THE VARIANCE WAS BASED ON THE HARDSHIP THAT IT IS AN EXISTING BUILDING BUILT IN 1922. AND IT'S ONE FOOT, NINE AND A HALF INCHES FROM THE NORTH PROPERTY LINE AS IT EXISTS. SO WE NEED TO INCREASE THE SIZE OF IT FOR THE CURRENT SIZE OF VANS, SUVs, LARGE AUTOMOBILES. IT IS ABOUT 19 OR 20 FEET, IN DIMENSION INSIDE AND OUT AND WE ARE ASKING FOR A EIGHT-FOOT EXTENSION AND THAT'S ALL. SO WE JUST WANT TO EXTEND THE NORTH PROPERTY SET BACK TO ACCOMMODATE THIS SIMPLE EXTENSION. SO WE ARE REDUCING THE REQUIRED THREE-FOOT SETBACK FOR ACCESSORY STRUCTURE DOWN TO ONE FOOT, NINE AND A HALF FEET. ON THE ALLEY SIDE WHICH IS O'RYAN LANE, WE ARE ASKING FOR A SIX FOOT, SIX-INCH SETBACK RATHER THAN THE 18 FEET THAT THE CITY CODE REQUIRES OFF AN ALLEY. AND I HAVE A LOT OF -- I CAN GO OVER THE PLANS THAT RON SO WONDERFULLY PRESENTED, BUT I WANT TO SHOW YOU SOME SPECIFIC HOMES ON ORION, ON OUR BLOCK. THIS FIRST SWNL OUR HOUSE AT 842 SOUTH BOULEVARD. THE YELLOW DASHED LINE IS THE EDGE OF THE ALLEY AND WE ARE ASKING AGAINST FOR A VOOR RANCE TO 6.6 FEET ON ONE SIZE. BUT 12 INTO AND CHANGE ON THE OTHER SIDE. NUMBER ONE HERE IS 829 BAYSHORE BOULEVARD. AND THE GARAGE DOOR IS SIX FEET ON AVERAGE FROM THE EXISTING PAVEMENT. SO IT DOESN'T MEET THE 18-FOOT SETBACK REQUIREMENT. NUMBER TWO, THIS BUILDING AT 408 SOUTH BOULEVARD. THE GARAGE DOOR IS TEN FEET ON AVERAGE FROM THE EXISTING PAVEMENT. DOESN'T CONFORM TO THE 18-FOOT SETBACK. NUMBER THREE, 832 SOUTH BOULEVARD, GARAGE DOOR IS 14 FEET ON AVERAGE FROM THE EXISTING PAVEMENT. DOES NOT MEET THE 18-FOOT SETBACK. NUMBER FOUR AT 819 BAYSHORE BOULEVARD, GARAGE DOOR IS FIVE FEET ON AVERAGE FROM THE EXISTING PAVEMENT. AND THEN NUMBER FIVE, AT 810 SOUTH BOULEVARD, GARAGE DOOR SR. 12 FEET ON AVERAGE FROM EXISTING PAVEMENT. SO WE HAVE FIVE HOMES ON O'BRIAN, ADJACENT TO OUR PROPERTY, THAT DON'T COME CLOSE TO MEETING THE 18-FOOT SETBACK. THERE IS GOOD REASON AND MR. MARE LOW PRESSURE TELL YOU THAT. IF YOU PARK A CAR IN FRONT OF YOUR GARAGE DOOR, YOU ARE OUT OF THE PATH OF THE ALLEY. WELL, OUR HOUSE HAS 120 FEET AND CHANGE DRIVEWAY IN FRONT OF THE HOUSE. SO WE HAVE PLENTY OF AREA FOR THE OWNER AND HIS GUESTS TO PARK IN THE FRONT. HAVING THE GARAGE DOOR IN THE BACK ALLOWS HIM TO HAVE EASY AND SAFE ACCESS FROM THE ALLEY TO EXIT OR TO ENTER AND NOT HAVE TO BACK 120 FEET THROUGH 11-FOOT SLOT IN THE EXISTING CAR PORT TO GET TO SOUTH BOULEVARD. SO OUR HARDSHIP TO CONFORM WITH THE CITY CODE, THE EXISTING CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE IS THE HARDSHIP AS IT WAS BUILT ONE FOOT, NINE AND A HALF INCHES FROM THE SIDE PROPERTY LINE. AND DOES NOT CONFORM TO THE CURRENT ACCESSORY STRUCTURE SETBACK OF THREE FEET. AND WAS DESIGNED AS A GARAGE, BUT WILL NOT ACCOMODATE THE MODERN-DAY LARGE CAR, VAN AND SUV. AND THE GARAGE LOCATED TO THE REAR OF THE SITE WITH THE ACCESS TO THE ALLEY IS AN APPROPRIATE LOCATION AND USE. IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE DESIGN STANDARDS AND COMPATIBLE WITH THE HISTORIC DISTRICT. AND IT IS TYPICAL THROUGHOUT THE HISTORIC DISTRICT. I LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU. IT WAS SAID EARLIER THAT THE CURRENT STRUCTURE HAS BEEN VESTED. >> YES. >>LYNN HURTAK: SO THE STRUCTURE HAS BEEN VESTED. SO WE ARE REALLY JUST LOOKING FOR THE -- THE SEPARATION FOR THE NEW SECTION, NOT THE ENTIRE STRUCTURE? >> THAT'S CORRECT. >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY. JUST MAKING SURE ON THAT. >> THE EXISTING STRUCTURE AND THE EIGHT-FOOT AUTO -- ADDITION. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: DOES THAT CONCLUDE YOUR PRESENTATION? >> THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? YES, SIR. START WITH YOUR NAME PLEASE. >> JOHN MARSH, URBAN PLANNER 2, TRANSPORTATION, ENGINEERING DIVISION. I DID THE REVIEW. JUST A POINT OF CLARIFICATION. 27-156-428 IS 18 FEET FOR A SINGLE VEHICLE -- ENTRANCE FOR A SINGLE VEHICLE AND TEN FEET FOR DOUBLES. SEVERAL OF THE EXAMPLES SHOWED DOUBLES SO 10 TO 14 FEET, THEY MEET CODE. I WANTED TO MAKE THAT CLARIFICATION. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? DOES STAFF HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS? RON, ANYBODY? OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO. A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. OPPOSED? THE AYES HAVE IT. HEARING IS CLOSED. WHAT IS THE WILL OF COUNCIL? OR ANY DISCUSSION? MR. SHELBY? >>MARTIN SHELBY: AS A REMINDER. IN THE PACKET PROVIDED TO YOU BY THE ATTORNEY, YOU HAVE TWO SEPARATE ITEMS TO DECIDE. AND YOU HAVE TWO SAMPLE MOTION PAGES IN YOUR PACKET FOR YOUR REVIEW, AND, AGAIN, YOU ALSO HAVE ONLY THE SECOND PAGE OF YOUR PACKET, BEGINNING WITH BOTTOM OF THE PAGE NUMBER ONE, CONSIDERING WITH NUMBER SIX ON THE BACK SIGNED OF IT, THE HARDSHIP CRITERIA FOR YOU TO YOU LOOK AT AND MAKE YOUR DECISION. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN HURTAK. >>LYNN HURTAK: I WILL MAKE ONE COUNTRY MOTIONS I'M GOING TO. AGENDA ITEM 101 RRC 26-97. THIS IS THE NORTH YARD SETBACK FROM THREE FOOT TO 179 INCHES. UP MOVE OVERTURN THE ARC AND APPROVE THE STRUCTURE FROM THREE FEET TO ONE FOOT, NINE AND A HALF NUMBERS AS REQUESTED ON ARC 26-97 FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 842 SOUTH BOULEVARD BECAUSE WE FIND THAT THE APPLICANT MEANT ALL OF THE SIX CRITERIA ON 27-114 OF THE CITY CODE REQUIRED TO MEET FOR A VARIANCE AS FOLLOWS. I DISAGREE. I DO NOT BELIEVE THIS IS A DASH SELF-CREATED HARDSHIP. I BELIEVE THAT SINCE THE SINCE THE STRUCTURE HAS BEEN VESTED. THIS IS AN ADDITION TO THE STRUCTURE TO FIT A CAR THAT FITS TODAY'S STANDARDS. I FOUND THAT -- AND I ALSO DON'T BELIEVE THAT IT WILL AFFECT THE DESIGN STANDARDS AND COMPATIBILITY WITH THE HISTORIC PATTERN OF THE HISTORIC DISTRICT BECAUSE IT IS INSIDE THE YARD. SO THAT'S -- THAT IS MY -- MY MOTION. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: A SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA. ANY DISCUSSION ON THE SNOW I WILL REITERATE, I CONCUR ARE COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK'S ASSESSMENT OF IT. ALSO AN AREA TOWN WHERE PARKING IS IS CRITICAL AND WE HAVE A GARAGE THAT WILL ACCOMMODATE A TRUE -- A VEHICLE IS PROBABLY A GOOD THING FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO THERE WE GO. OKAY. HEARING NO OTHER DISCUSSION, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION. AYE. OPPOSED? >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU. AND WE HAVE ONE MORE. >>MARTIN SHELBY: MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY. THAT HAS BEEN DELINEATED AS VARIANCE TWO. AND I BELIEVE THERE IS VARIANCE ONE REMAINING. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ANYONE WANT TO MAKE A MOTION ON THIS ONE? >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO MOVE TO OVERTURN THE ARC DIVISION -- IS FOR VARIANCE ONE. THE ENTRANCE AND SETBACK FROM 18 FEET TO 6'6" NUMBERS AS REQUESTED IN APPLICATION NUMBER ARC 26-97 FOR PROPERTY 482 SOUTH BOULEVARD BECAUSE WE FIND THAT THE APPLICANT HAS MET ALL SIX CRITERIA CAN STATED IN 27-114. FOR A VARIANCE AS FOLLOWS. NOT THE MAIN STRUCTURE AND THE ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT AS WAS STATED IN VARIANCE TWO, ALTHOUGH DIFFERENT, THERE IS NOT A SELF-CREATED HARDSHIP. IT'S -- HE MENTIONED BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, HOW VEHICLES ARE MODERN VEHICLES, HOW THEY NEED TO FIT. THE GENTLEMAN IS MENTIONED WITH REGARDS TO HAVING ACCESS INSTEAD OF THE 120 FEET FROM A VERY NARROW ENTRANCEWAY ON THE DRIVEWAY. THIS IS JUST -- IT JUST MAKES SENSE. DO I HAVE TO TAKE FURTHER WITH MORE SCIENTIFIC FACT? BUT I THINK IT SPEAKS FOR ITSELF. >>LYNN HURTAK: I WILL INTO THAT ACCESSORY STRUCTURE HAS BEEN VESTED ALREADY. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALREADY THERE AND GRANDFATHERED IN IF YOU WANT TO SAY. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: STRATEGIC GOAL FOR THE CITY TO UTILIZE ALLEY ACCESS FOR VEHICLES SPECIFICALLY IN OUR HISTORIC AREAS. AND IT IS THAT TYPE OF VARIANCE AND ACCESS TO THESE GARAGES OFF THESE ALLEY IS FAIRLY STANDARD IN HYDE PARK. IT NOT A UNIFORM SYSTEM. A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO. SECONDED FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. OPPOSED. >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: OKAY. 102. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, CITY COUNCIL MY NAME IS TAYLOR BOLT AND I AM WITH THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT. I'M HERE TODAY TO PRESENT AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 102, WHICH CONCERNS VRB APPLICATION 25-38 FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 541 LUCERNE AVENUE. PETITIONER FOR THIS APPLICANT WAS MR. JOSEPH FONTANA. THE VARIANCE THEY HAD ORIGINALLY REQUESTED FROM THE BOARD WAS AN INCREASE IN HEIGHT FROM 35 FEET TO 53 FEET ALONG WITH A REDUCTION OF THEIR FRONT YARD SETBACKS FROM 25 FEET TO 4.9 FEET. THE VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD DENIED THE PETITIONER'S APPLICATION ON FEBRUARY 10, 2026, AND BEFORE I PROCEED FURTHER, COUNCIL, I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THIS PETITION FOR REVIEW WILL BE LIKELY DIFFERENT FROM ANY OTHER PETITION FOR REVIEW YOU HAVE HEARD BEFORE. AND THIS IS BECAUSE THIS APPLICATION WAS NOT DENIED FOR SUBSTANTIVE REASONS OR ON ITS MERITS BUT RATHER FOR PROCEDURAL REASONS. AND THIS IS BECAUSE THE VARIANCE BOARD RULES YOU HAVE PROCEDURES SPECIFICALLY RULE 7.1 STATES THAT AN APPLICANT SHALL APPEAR IN SUPPORT OF THEIR APPLICATION OR REQUEST. ; HOWEVER, IF THE APPLICANT FAILS TO APPEAR ONCE, THE BOARD IS ALLOWED TO GRANT THEM A CONTINUANCE. IF THE APPLICANT DOES NOT APPEAR A SECOND TIME, THE BOARD CAN DENY THE APPLICATION. AND THAT IS EXACTLY THE SITUATION WE HAVE HERE TODAY. PETITIONER'S APPLICATION WAS FIRST MEANT TO BE HEARD ON DECEMBER 9 IN 2025; HOWEVER, PRIOR TO THE HEARING, THE APPLICANT SUBMITTED A WRITTEN REQUEST FOR CONTINUANCE AND THEN PROCEEDED TO NOT SHOW UP AT THE HEARING IN SUPPORT OF THEIR APPLICATION OR THE REQUEST OF TAMPA WANTS. SIMILARLY, THE APPLICATION WAS CONTINUED TO THE FEBRUARY 10, 2026 HEARING DATE WHERE, AGAIN, THE APPLICANT SUBMITTED A WRITTEN REQUEST FOR CONTINUANCE PRIOR TO THE MEETING AND THEN PROCEEDED NOT TO SHOW UP AT THE HEARING DATE IN SUPPORT OF THE APPLICATION OR THE REQUEST FOR A CONTINUANCE. WITH ME TODAY, I HAVE ST STEVEN EYESTER FOLLOWING MY INTRODLUPGS PROVIDE A MORE DETAILED FACTUAL OVERVIEW THAT LED TO THE VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD PROCEDURAL DENIAL OF THE APPLICATION. A REMIND DOER CITY COUNCIL, TODAY'S HEARING IS GOVERNED BY CODE SECTION 27-16, SUBSECTIONS J-2 WHICH STATES THIS IS A DE NOVO REVIEW HEARING AND THEREFORE COUNCIL SHALL NOT BE LIMITED IN ITS REVIEW OF DOCUMENTATION UPON WHICH THE DENIAL WAS BASED. I KNOW THAT COUNCIL HAS PROVIDED WITH A NUMBER OF BACKGROUND MATERIALS. I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT A FEW THAT I BELIEVE MR. SHELBY HAD JUST HANDED OUT TO EVERYONE. FIRSTLY, YOU RECEIVED A COPY OF THE VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD'S RULES OF PROCEDURES, ALONG WITH SOME SAMPLE MOTION LANGUAGE FOR POTENTIAL ACTION THAT CITY COUNCIL CAN MAKE AFTER TODAY'S HEARING ALONG WITH A COPY OF STANDARD RULES OF PROCEDURES THAT GOVERNS STANDARDS OF REVIEW AND COPY OF CODE SECTION 27-61 AS WELL. CITY COUNCIL, AFTER TODAY'S HEARING, YOU WILL HAVE HAVE THE ABILITY TO MAKE THREE POSSIBLE APPLICATIONS. FIRST WOULD TO BE AFFIRM THE VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD OF PROCEDURAL DENIAL OF THE PETITIONER'S APPLICATION. SECOND IS TO REMAND THE APPLICATION BACK TO THE VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD WITH SPECIFIC DIRECTIONS OR INSTRUCTIONS FOR THEM TO FOLLOW. LASTLY, CITY COUNCIL DOES HAVE THE ABILITY TO OVERTURN THE VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD'S PROCEDURAL DENIAL; HOWEVER, GIVEN THE UNIQUE FACTUAL SITUATION PRESENTED BEFORE THE BOARD TODAY, IT WOULD BE OUR RECOMMENDATION IF THE BOARD DOES CHOOSE OVERTURN THIS PROCEDURAL DENIAL, WE REQUEST THAT THIS APPLICATION STILL BE REMANDED BACK TO THE VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD AS IT WAS NEVER HEARD ON ITS MERITS, AND THEY SHOULD BE HEARD FOR THE FIRST TIME AT THE VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD AND NOT AT CITY COUNCIL ON A PETITION TO REVIEW. I WILL BE AVAILABLE IF COUNCIL HAS ANY QUESTIONS. BUT IF NOT, I WILL HAND IT OVER TO MR. EYSTER. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? HEARING NONE. OK OKAY. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL. JUST TO RECAP -- >>ALAN CLENDENIN: START WITH YOUR NAME. >> STEVEN EYSTER, URBAN PLANNER 2. PLANNING AND GROWTH. VRB 25-38. OWNER IS JOSEPH FONTANA. APPLICANT WAS COLIN RICE. PROPERTY 541 HA LUCERNE AVENUE. ZONING IS RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY. THE REQUEST -- THE VARIANCE REQUEST HAD TWO REQUESTS. ONE TO INCREASE THE HEIGHT FROM 35 FEET TO 53 FEET OR 61 FEET FROM MEAN SEA LEVEL WHICH IS GROUND TO SKY. AND THEN REDUCE THE FRONT YARD QUARTERBACK FROM 25 FEET TO 4.9 FEET. THE ZONING PROPERTY IS RS-60. SO PER 27-156, THE FOLLOWING ARE IN PLACE. RS DISTRICTS HAVE A 25-FOOT FRONT SIDEWALK, 25 REAR, SEVEN-FOOT SIGNED SETBACK AND 35 FOOT HEIGHT. THIS IS THE APPLICATION TIMELINE. THE APPLICATION WAS SUBMITTED ON AUGUST 13, 2025. SECOND AND ROUTED ON SEPTEMBER 2. SCHEDULED FOR THE NOVEMBER 18 HEARING ON DEPARTMENT 19. OPPOSITION LETTERS WERE RECEIVED AFTER NOTICING WAS SENT OUT BETWEEN NOVEMBER 4 AND NOVEMBER 17. THERE WAS NO QUORUM AT THE NOVEMBER 18 HEARING. SO ALL CASES GOT CONTINUED TO DECEMBER. ON DECEMBER 4, A REQUEST OF CONTINUANCE WAS SUBMITTED TO MOVE TO THE FEBRUARY 10 HEARING. THE APPLICANT DID NOT APPEAR FOR THE CONTINUANCE REQUEST. ONLY PROVIDED A MEMO. ON FEBRUARY 9, THE APPLICANT REQUESTED A SECOND CONTINUANCE TO THE MARCH 10, 2026 HEARING. THE APPLICANT THEN -- THE HEARING WAS THE NEXT DAY ON FEBRUARY 10. APPLICANT DID NOT APPEAR. THE BOARD DENIED THE CONTINUANCE AND THE CASE PER THE RULES AND PROCEDURES. THIS IS A MORE DETAILED OVERVIEW TIMELINE OF THIS ADDRESS, SHOWING BACK IN -- BRING IT INTO FOCUS. COMPLAINT IN 2015 FOR WORK WOULDN'T PERMITS. AND THEN FOOLING COMBINATION OF RESIDENTIAL TRADE PERMITS AND UTILITY ACTIONS, AND FINALLY IN 2025, VARIANCE THAPT WAS APPLIE PLYED FOR. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. CHAIRMAN I WAS IN THE BACK WATCHING THIS AND I HEARD FROM THE PREVIOUS GENTLEMAN. DID YOU SAY YOU THEM TO BE REMANDED BACK TO THE VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD? ORR THAT -- I SEE IT IS ONE YOU HAVE OUR OPTIONS, BUT I MISSED THAT. CAN YOU REPEAT THAT. >> OF COURSE, TAYLOR BOLT WITH THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT. WHAT I WAS DISCUSSING COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO ARE THE THERE POSSIBLE OPTIONS THAT CITY COUNCIL HAS WHICH IS TO AFFIRM, REMAND AND WHAT I BELIEVE YOU OVERHEARD DISCUSSING THE POSSIBILITY OF OVERTURNING THIS DECISION, THAT IF YOU DO DECIDE TO OVERTURN IT, THAT IT STILL BE REMANDED BACK. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT WAS THE PART. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ANYBODY ELSE FROM STAFF THAT IS GOING TO PRESENT OR DOES THAT CONCLUDE STAFF'S PRESENTATION? >> THAT I BELIEVE CONCLUDES STAFF'S PRESENTATION AT THIS TIME. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: VERY GOOD. APPLICANT AND PETITIONER. GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. SINGER. WELCOME BACK TO TAMPA CITY HALL. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL. IT IS A PLEASURE TO BE HERE. I AM JOINED BY THE APPLICANT AND HOMEOWNBLER FONLZ AND H-- HOMEOWNER AND HIS SON, ALEX. MY 20th YEAR PRACTICING WHICH I FIND SOMEWHAT HARD FOR BELIEVE. AND THIS IS A DAY OF FIRSTS FOR ME, BECAUSE I'M HERE TO ASK YOU TO APPROVE A VARIANCE THAT I DON'T BELIEVE WE NEED. SO THIS IS A VERY STRANGE CIRCUMSTANCE. AND I WOULD LIKE GO THROUGH IT SOMEWHAT BRIEFLY YOU WITH. I AM GOING TO HAND IT OVER TO MR. SHELBY TO HAND OUT TO YOU SOME PERTINENT ATLANTA W-- PERTINENT ATLANTA WE ARE ASKING YOU TO APPROVE IS NOT NECESSARY. A PREVIOUS DISPUTE THAT STARTED IN 2015 ABOUT SOME PERMITTING ISSUES. THERE WAS SOME DISAGREEMENT BETWEEN THE APPLICANT AND CITY LEGAL AND CITY BUILDING DEPARTMENT ABOUT THE PROPRIETY OF PERMITTING. ULTIMATELY, THAT RESULTED IN A LEGAL ACTION, A DECLARATORY ACTION BEING TAKEN, WHICH THEN RESULTED IN A SETTLEMENT -- A FINAL SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT THAT THIS COUNCIL APPROVED ON JUNE OF -- JUNE 2024. AND I HAVE PROVIDED YOU THAT LANGUAGE IN THE AGREEMENT, AND I WOULD JUST LIKE GO THROUGH SOME OF IT WITH YOU SO THAT YOU UNDERSTAND BETTER WHAT THE ISSUES ARE. >> SORRY, CITY COUNCIL. >> THIS IS HIGHLY IMPROPER. >> IT ABSOLUTELY IS PROPER. THE CITY LEGAL DEPARTMENT. WHAT MR. SINGER IS ABOUT TO GET INTO IS THE PENDING LITIGATION THAT I AM HANDLING ON BEHALF OF THE CITY OF TAMPA. ELSE GOING TO RAISE THE SETTLEMENT -- HE RAISED THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT. SUBJECT MUCH ONGOING LITIGATION -- >> MR. SHELBY, I HAVE TO OBJECT AND MA ACHE POINT OF ORDER THAT YOU INSTRUCT CITY STAFF TO ALLOW ME TO FINISH. >>MARTIN SHELBY: EXECUTION ME, MAY I? >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WAS GOING TO GET ORDER AND THEN RECOGNIZE YOU. >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU VERY. IF I CAN. A POINT OF ORDER HAS BEEN RAISED. SO YOU, THE SPEAKER WHO INTERRUPT, COULD YOU AFTER INTRODUCING THE NECESSITY OF IT. STATEMENT HOUR. >> , TOREANA HARGRETT WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OVALS. I AM RAISING THIS POINT OF ORDER GIVEN THE FACT THAT MR. SINGER ON BEHALF OF MR. FONTANA IS RAISING A SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT THE SUBJECT OF ONGOING LITIGATION. WHAT HE IS GOING TO ARGUE HAS TO DO WITH HIS RIDING AND HIS UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THAT SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT AGREES AND RETAILS FROM BOTH PARTIES. SUBJECT OF ENFORCEMENT NO FRONT OF JUDGE WOLF THE 13th JUDICIAL DISTRICT AND JUDGE WOLF HAS DENIED THAT MOTION TO ENFORCE IN THE MANNER OF WHICH HE IS SDHG BODY TO ADHERE TO. I AM RAISING THIS BECAUSE I BELIEVE UNDER YOUR RULES OF PROCEDURES, BUT SPECIFICALLY 7-G, IT IS WHY YOUR OWN POLICY THAT YOU DO NOT DISCUSS MATTERS THAT ARE SUBJECT TO ONGOING LITIGATION. THAT ORDER BY JUDGE WOLF WAS DENIED. THEIR REQUEST TO ENFORCE THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT IN THE WAY THEY ARE ENVISIONING IT ALSO REQUIRES THE PARTIES TO PARTICIPATE IN NONBINDING ARBITRATION. THAT SCHEDULING IS PENDING AS WE SPEAK. IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, I CAN ANSWER THEM. BUT IN DEFERENCE TO YOUR POLICY, I -- I AM TRYING ABSTAIN FROM ENGAGING ON TOO MANY FACTS THAT WOULD BE UNNECESSARY FOR THE POINT OF RAISING THIS ISSUE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ASK FOR A DISCUSSION WITH OUR ATTORNEY FOR A SECOND. WHAT I AM HEARING WITH THE POINT OF ORDER. I AM KIND OF NOT GOING TO -- I'M NOT GOING TO ACCEPT THE POINT OF ORDER I BELIEON THIS BASIS. YOU SAY IT MAY AFFECT THAT CASE BUT NOT NECESSARILY THAT THE FACTS THAT ARE BEING PRESENTED HERE MAY BE ON THIS PARTICULAR CASE. >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU CANNOT THIS ON THE MERITS BECAUSE IT HAVEN'T BEEN HEARD BY THE VRB. DENIED ON A PROCEDURAL GROUND. IT IS DE NOVO FOR EVIDENCE, BUT THE FACT IS, IT WOULD HAVE AN ABSURD IMPACT AND ABSURD EFFECT IF YOU INTHAVE SAY THAT ANYBODY WANTS TO BYPASS THE VRB AND HEARD FOR THE FIRST TIME BY YOU. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: PARSE THAT OUT -- >>MARTIN SHELBY: BEFORE WE GO ANY FURTHER, MR. CHAIRMAN. LET ME SAY ONE THING. SHE RAISED IN INFORMING YOU OF COUNCIL'S RULES OF PROCEDURE. AND COUNCIL, YOU HAVE HEARD THIS RULE STATED -- >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MANY TIMES. >>MARTIN SHELBY: -- MANY TIMES AND THIS RULE 7-G STATES AS FOLLOWS: COUNCIL SHOULD AVOID ANY DISCUSSION OF THE MAPPER AT A PUBLIC MEET WHERE THE CITY IS OR LIKELY TO BE A PARTY IN LITIGATION WITHOUT CONCURRENCE OF COUNCIL. AND MISS HARGRETT HERE IS RECOMMENDING PUMP ANYA HARE GREPT AND I WANT TO SAY IT CORRECTLY. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: QUESTION, IS THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT FINISHED -- IS THIS A FINAL DOCUMENT, A DONE DEAL AND IS THIS SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT -- >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU ARE ASKING A QUESTION OF LAW. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOUR POINT THAT THE SETTLEMENT -- >>MARTIN SHELBY: SUBJECT OF LITIGATION AS WE SPEAK. HERE IS MY QUESTION. AND MY QUESTION FOR -- CERTAINLY MR. SINGER YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO BE TACK CREATE THE RECORD AND RAISE YOUR OBJECTION FOR THE RECORD, BUT I MUST ASK, ARE YOU GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT THE ORDER TO ENFORCE THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT THAT WASP FURNISHED BY JUDGE WOLF, THE CIRCUIT COURT JUDGE? >> THANK YOU, MR. SHELBY. DAVID SINGER FOR THE APPLICANT. I WILL NOT BE DISCUSSING THE COURT CASE AT ALL. IN ADDITION, I WILL NOT BE DISCUSSING ITS SUBSTANCE OF ANY VARIANCE REQUEST. I WILL SIMPLY BE DISCUSSING THE PROCEDURAL POINT THAT WE WERE AT AND ASK THE COUNCIL FOR PROCEDURAL RELIEF THAT YOU HAVE ALREADY GRANTED IN JUNE OF 2024. >>MARTIN SHELBY: TO WHOM? IN JUNE OF 2024. IN THE PASSAGE -- THE PASSAGE OF THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT. >> UNANIMOUS APPROVAL OF THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MR. CARLSON. >>BILL CARLSON: WILL SHELBY, AS I HELPED YOU READ THAT. CITY COUNCIL'S RULE THAT WE CAN NOT DISCUSS THIS. BUT DOESN'T PROHIBIT HIM FROM TELLING US. >>MARTIN SHELBY: SURE, THAT IS TRUE. BUT, AGAIN, HE CERTAINLY HAS A RIGHT TO MAKE HIS RECORD AND HAVE THE RIGHT TO HEAR IT. WOULDN'T THE CONCURRENCE OF COUNCIL UNLESS YOU WAIVE YOUR RULES WHICH WILL BE AGAINST -- SORRY, WILL BE AGAINST THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT'S ADVICE TO WAIVE YOUR RULES BECAUSE THEY DO NOT CONCUR WITH YOUR DISCUSSION. YOU CAN HEAR WHATEVER YOU LIKE, YOU JUST CAN'T DISCUSS IT AMONG YOUR 70s AND MAKE A DECISIONS BASED ON WHAT YOU HEAR. >>BILL CARLSON: BASED ON THE RULES YOU CITED HE CAN SAY WHATEVER HE WANTS AND CITY ATTORNEY CAN ADVICE US NOT TO DISCUSS -- IF HE CROSS AS LINE YOU DEEM HE CAN'T STOP. >>MARTIN SHELBY: DOES THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TAKE A POSITION ON THAT. >> TOYANA HARE FLOAT FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. MY CONCERN ONCE HE STARTS TALKING ABOUT THINGS, I WON'T BE ABLE TO REBUNT HIM AND STOP HIM AND YOUR DELIBERATION ALSO START DISCUSSING HIM. ESPECIALLY SAID HE WILL ONLY TALK YOU HAVE PROCEDURAL BUT CLEAR HE WILL TALK OF SUBSTANCE OF THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT. HE IS TALK BEING IT NOW WITH JUNE 20624. A COURT HAS ALREADY SAID THEY ARE NOT PREPARED TO ENFORCE IT IN A MANNER WHICH HE BELIEVES IT TO BE READ. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT. YOU CAN HAVE REBUT AFTER THAT POINT IN THESE PROCEDURES. YOU HAVE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY -- YOU HAVE ANOTHER BITE OF THE APPLE. >>MARTIN SHELBY: TQUESTION IN THIS, COUNCIL. IF SHE WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO UNRING THE BELL OR PUNT TOOTHPASTE BACK IN THE TUBE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HE WILL HEAR FROM TWO OTHER COUNCIL PERSON AND MAKE A DECISION. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IS THIS CASE STILL SNOW. >> YES. YES, YOUR HONOR. YES, YES, CHAIR -- I MEAN -- >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WOULD SHALL VERY CAUTIOUS TO CONTINUE BECAUSE THIS JUDGE HAS NOT MADE A FINAL RULING ON THIS CASE AND ANYTHING WE SAY MAY BE HELD AGAINST US OR AGAINST THE PETITIONER. UNFAIR FOR THE PETITIONER AND UNDER FAIR TO STUFF, TO THE CITY GOVERNMENT. THAT IS MY. >>MARTIN SHELBY: ALSO I BELIEVE, COUNCIL, MR. SINGER RAISED THE FACT THAT THIS THE HIGH. VERY WELL BE A VARIANCE -- IF I AM MISTAKEN OR NOT MISTAKEN, WAR NOT NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE GRANTED IF ULTIMATELY AT THE END OF THIS PROBLEM THAT IS BEING LITIGATED, THE MATTER MIGHT BE MOO MOOT. IS THAT CORRECT STATEMENT? >> DAVID SINGER FOR THE APPLICANT. MR. SHELBY, THERE ARE MULTIPLE WAY FOR ANY APPLICANT TO GET RELIEF AND ONE CERTAINLY TO COME TO THEIR ELECTED REPRESENTATIVES AND SAY TO THEM, YOU HAVE ALREADY MADE A DECISION ON A TECH THE MAPPER. I DON'T NEED AT ALL DISCUSS WHAT YOU MADE THE DECISION, WHAT WENT INTO THE DECISION. SIX OF YOU ON THIS BOARD HAVE SEEN THIS AGREEMENT ALREADY. ALL WE WILL ASK IS THAT YOU LOOK AT THAT ARE AT IT AGAIN AND SAY NO NEED FOR THE PROCEDURAL DENIAL BECAUSE AGREEMENT IN ITSELF WASN'T NECESSARY. I AM NOT ASKING YOU IF IT IS A GOOD AGREEMENT OR BAD AGREEMENT. NOT ASKING IF THE VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD HAD THE CORRECT CRITERIA. IT WOULD NOT HAVE GOT THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE. ALL I AM ASKING TO YOU SAY AND THEN SAY, TO THE EXTENT THAT YOU NEED PROCEDURAL RELIEF, WE WOULD GRANT IT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. >>LYNN HURTAK: FOR ME. WHAT IS IN FRONT OF US IS. THE MY BIGGER ISSUE IS WHY YOU DIDN'T SHOW UP TO THE VRB. ALL THE OUR STUFF IS IRRELEVANT. I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHY YOU DIDN'T SHOW UP WHEN YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO SHOW UP. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THEY HAVEN'T FINISHED THEIR QUESTION. >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT IS ALL I WANT. IF YOU GIVE MORE INFORMATION, SIMPLY FOR THAT INFORMATION. >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR QUESTION. A VERY PERTINENT ONE. WE DIDN'T SHOW UP BECAUSE YOU APPROVED WHAT WAS REQUESTED. YOU THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVED WHAT WAS REQUESTED. AN ABSURD TROULT GO BACK TO THE VARIANCE BOARD AND GO BACK TO A DECISION AND IF THE VARIANCE BOARD WAS TO DENY IT ON ITS SUBSTANCE, WOULD HAVE TO YOU AND SAIL YOU APPROVED IT IN JUNE OF 2024. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WILL SINGER, I HAVE ONE QUESTION AND MAKE THE DECISION ON THE OBJECTION. SO YOU CAN STICK WITH THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE A CASE PEND ING BEFORE A JUDGE AND SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT IS SUBSTANTIALLY INVOLVED IN THAT CASE BEFORE A JUDGE. >> YES, WE >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I HAVE ONE QUESTION BEFORE WE MAKE A DECISION ON THE OBJECTION. SO YOU COULD STIPULATE THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE A CASE PENDING BEFORE A JUDGE AND THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT IS SUBSTANTIALLY INVOLVED IN THAT CASE BEFORE THE JUDGE. >> YES, WE MOVED TO ENFORCE THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT THAT YOU APPROVED IN FRONT OF JUDGE WOLF ON A PARALLEL TRACK FOR RELIEF, YES. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SO WITH THAT STIPULATION, AND UNDERSTANDING COUNCIL'S RULES THAT WE DO NOT DISCUSS THINGS THAT ARE PENDING, COULD YOU MAKE -- I'LL GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE AN ARGUMENT WHY WE SHOULDN'T CONSIDER OUR RULES AND AS OUR ATTORNEYS HAVE JUST SAID, WHY WE SHOULD NOT -- WHY WE SHOULD WAIVE OUR OWN RULES TO CONSIDER THAT INFORMATION. I'LL GIVE YOU A COUPLE OF MINUTES TO MAKE THAT CASE. >>MARTIN SHELBY: IS THAT SOMETHING THAT COUNCIL WOULD CONTEMPLATE? >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I'M JUST GIVING HIM AN OPPORTUNITY. >>MARTIN SHELBY: HE COULD MAKE THAT ARGUMENT. WHAT I'M SAYING TO YOU IS THAT THE CITY ATTORNEY IS NOT CONCURRING. NOR AM I. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: OH, BOY, I LIKE THIS. >>MARTIN SHELBY: NO, NO. QUITE FRANKLY, IF I CAN BE HEARD -- >>ALAN CLENDENIN: GO AHEAD, MR. SHELBY. >>MARTIN SHELBY: MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY. YOU ARE HERE ON A PETITION FOR REVIEW THAT WAS FILED BY THE APPLICANT, WHICH PROCEDURALLY AFTER THE DISMISSAL WAS NECESSARY AS AN ATTORNEY TO BE ABLE TO PROTECT THE RIGHTS OF HIS CLIENT TO BE ABLE TO KEEP THIS CASE GOING TO NOT CREATE A PROCESS FOR DOWN THE LINE SAYING YOU MISSED THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THIS PROCESS PLAY OUT, SO FROM A LEGAL STANDPOINT, IT'S APPROPRIATE TO HAVE HIM FILE THE PETITION FOR REVIEW. WHAT IS THE PETITION FOR REVIEW? IT'S A PETITION FOR REVIEW OF A DISMISSAL ON A PROCEDURAL PROCESS. WHAT IS VERY CLEAR, AND UNDISPUTED, IS THAT MR. SINGER AND HIS CLIENT DID NOT HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT THE MERITS OF THE CASE TO THE VRB. SO IF YOU WANT TO SUBJECT YOURSELVES TO THIS HEARING, WHICH YOU VERY WELL MIGHT, TO GRANT HIM THE DUE PROCESS TO ALLOW YOU TO BE ABLE TO ASCERTAIN WHETHER IT WAS APPROPRIATE FOR THE VRB TO DISMISS THIS ON PROCEDURAL GROUNDS, THEN IS -- AND UPON THAT, MAKE THE DECISION, THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE. BUT FOR YOU TO GET INTO THE MERITS OF THE AGREEMENT ITSELF, WHICH IS PRESENTLY SUBJECT TO LITIGATION AND, BY THE WAY, AND I DON'T WANT TO TESTIFY, BUT IT'S A GOOD QUESTION FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY, UNLESS MR. SINGER WANTS TO BE ABLE TO PRESENT IT, ARE THE WORDS OF JUDGE WOLF WITH REGARD TO THE FACT THAT A CONFLICT EXISTS WITHIN THE AGREEMENT, WARRANTING FURTHER LITIGATION. THAT BEING THE CASE, I WOULD NOT RECOMMEND, AND IT WOULD BE AGAINST THE ADVICE OF COUNSEL FOR YOU TO HEAR THIS CASE ON ITS MERITS. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I THINK THAT JUMPED THE POINT THAT NEEDED TO BE MADE FROM THE BEGINNING. THANK YOU FOR FINDING THAT POINT. >>LUIS VIERA: IN LIGHT OF WHAT MR. SHELBY SAID, MAYBE MY ISSUE IS INAPPLICABLE. I WAS GOING TO ASK, WE HAVE A PETITIONER HERE WHO IS SEEKING, WHO HAS THEORIES OF RECOVERY. IS THERE ANY WAY, MR. SHELBY, THAT THEY CAN SPEAK AND THEN WE CAN NOT ENGAGE WITH THEM ON THE ISSUE SO WE DON'T ACTIVELY DEAL WITH WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT, CONCURRENT LITIGATION, WHATEVER IT MAY BE. LET MS. HARGRETT TALK ABOUT THE CHALLENGES WITH THIS AND THEN WE DETERMINE OR IS WHAT YOU SAID PRETTY MUCH WIPING OUT ANY SUGGESTION I HAVE? >>MARTIN SHELBY: MS. HARGRETT, MAY I INQUIRE, MR. CHAIRMAN? MY INQUIRY, DOES SHE HAVE A COPY OF THE ORDER TO ENFORCE THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT? >>TOYIN AINA-HARGRETT: YES, THE ORDER DENYING. TO INA AINA-HARGRETT, CITY LEGAL. I HAVE COPIES FOR CITY COUNCIL. THAT'S THE ORDER DENYING. >>MARTIN SHELBY: MAY I PRESENT IT, PLEASE, TO THEM? IS THERE A COPY FOR MR. SINGER? >>TOYIN AINA-HARGRETT: YES. >>MARTIN SHELBY: COUNCIL, I AM GOING TO DIRECT YOUR ATTENTION TO THE ONE-PAGE ORDER AND SPECIFICALLY I'M GOING TO POINT TO ORDER AND ADJUDGED AS FOLLOWS, SPECIFICALLY NUMBER TWO. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: EVERYBODY FINISH READING? MR. SINGER, DO YOU HAVE A RESPONSE TO THIS BEFORE WE MAKE A FINAL DETERMINATION? >> DAVID SINGER. MR. CHAIRMAN OR MR. SHELBY, COULD ONE OF YOU REPEAT THE SPECIFIC QUESTION THAT I CAN RESPOND TO? >>ALAN CLENDENIN: DO YOU HAVE A RESPONSE TO THE CITY ATTORNEY'S POSITION ON THIS BEFORE I MAKE A FINAL DETERMINATION OF WHICH DIRECTION YOU'LL GO? >> YES. THERE ARE TWO AVENUES FOR RELIEF FOR THIS APPLICANT. THEY EXPLORED THEIR FIRST AVENUE FOR RELIEF THROUGH THIS VERY BODY, BY AGREEING TO A SET OF TERMS AND CONDITIONS IN A FINAL SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT THAT YOU APPROVED. THE CITY THEN DECIDED NOT TO UPHOLD THEIR END OF THAT AGREEMENT AND DIRECTED THE APPLICANT INCORRECTLY THAT THE METHOD FOR RELIEF WAS THROUGH THE VARIANCE BOARD. GRUDGINGLY, THE APPLICANT SUBMITTED A VARIANCE APPLICATION AT THE SAME TIME AND ON A PARALLEL TRACK FILED A MOTION IN CIRCUIT COURT TO ASK THE JUDGE TO ALSO ENFORCE THE TERMS OF THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT. AND SO I SUBMIT TO YOU TODAY, YOU ABSOLUTELY AS A CITY COUNCIL HAVE THE JURISDICTION, THE ABILITY, AND THE AUTHORITY TO LOOK AT WHAT YOU APPROVED AND SAY, YEAH, THE APPLICANT DOESN'T NEED TO GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS BECAUSE HE ALREADY DID. AND THE CITY ALREADY AGREED. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, TRYING TO GET TWO BITES AT THE APPLE THAT IF ONE IS TRUE, THE OTHER CAN'T BE TRUE. HOW ARE YOU GOING DOWN THESE TWO DIFFERENT PATHS. >> I UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION. I DISAGREE WITH THE CONSTRUCTION. AN APPLICANT HAS THE ABILITY, THE RIGHT TO SEEK RELIEF IN WHATEVER FORM IS AVAILABLE. IN THIS CASE, THERE ARE TWO FORMS THAT ARE AVAILABLE. WE WOULD MUCH PREFER TO BE HERE BEFORE YOU BECAUSE YOU WERE THE ORIGINAL APPROVERS OF THE LANGUAGE. I DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO GO TO A JUDGE WHO IS SEEING THIS FOR THE FIRST TIME WHO HAS NO CONTEXT ABOUT ZONING, ABOUT VARIANCES, ABOUT HEIGHT ISSUES WITHIN THE CITY. WE WANT YOU TO SAY, YES, WE LOOKED AT THIS. WE EXAMINED THIS. WE AGREED TO IT. END OF STORY. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY AND OUR CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY, IS IT APPROPRIATE SINCE THE APPLICANT HAS CHOSEN TO USE LITIGATION ON THIS ISSUE, IS THIS -- THIS HEARING, IS THIS APPROPRIATE? >>TOYIN AINA-HARGRETT: THE HEARING IS APPROPRIATE TO THE EXTENT THAT HE IS APPEALING THE PROCEDURAL DENIAL OF THE VRB. AND ONLY LIMITED TO THAT PROCEDURE ISSUE, WHICH WAS RAISED BY COUNCIL HURTAK. ANY DISCUSSION -- I MEAN, I'M HEARING, WE'RE NOT GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT BUT WE'RE TALKING ALL ABOUT THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT, I'M REALLY CONCERNED THAT EVERY SINGLE THING THAT EACH ONE OF YOU SAYS IS GOING TO BE REDUCED TO A TRANSCRIPT. IT IS GOING TO BECOME A PART OF AN AMENDED PROCEEDING, AND IT WILL COME BACK TO US IN THE LITIGATION. I CANNOT REBUT THE THINGS THAT MR. SINGER IS SAYING BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO ENGAGE IN THE FACTS OF THE CASE. I DON'T WANT TO ARGUE THEM HERE. IT WOULD BE INAPPROPRIATE. I ALMOST FEEL AS THOUGH I AM A BIT HANDCUFFED. IF YOU ARE LIMITED TO THE PROCEDURAL ISSUE, CERTAINLY THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE, BUT ANYTHING DEALING WITH A SUBSTANCE, WHICH, AGAIN, WAS NEVER DISCUSSED BY THE VRB, WOULD NOT BE APPROPRIATE IN MY ESTIMATION. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MR. SINGER, AS YOU MOVE FORWARD IN THIS CASE FOR THE APPEAL OF THE VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD, I WOULD APPRECIATE IT IF YOU NOT INCLUDE THE INFORMATION OF THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT PER THE ADVICE OF CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY. MOVE FORWARD ON JUST THE EVIDENCE FOR YOUR REVIEW OF THE VARIANCE REVIEW. >> MR. CHAIRMAN, THAT PUTS ME IN A VERY DIFFICULT POSITION AND PUTS THE APPLICANT IN A DIFFICULT POSITION, BECAUSE IT IS THE LANGUAGE OF THE AGREEMENT THAT TRIGGERS THE PROCEDURAL REQUEST FOR YOU TO OVERTURN. SO THE ONLY COMPROMISE THAT I CAN THINK OF, AS I STAND HERE, IS WHAT MR. BOLT SUGGESTED TO YOU. YOU HAD THREE OPTIONS. I WOULD AT THIS POINT, IF THE COUNCIL IS NOT INCLINED TO HEAR ARGUMENT THAT INCLUDES SIMPLY READING THE LANGUAGE OF THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT YOU REMAND THIS TO THE VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD, AND WE CAN GO THROUGH THE PROCESS THAT WAY, AND THEN IF NECESSARY, EVEN THOUGH, AGAIN, I DON'T BELIEVE WE NEED TO BE HERE, WE COULD COME BACK AND SAY WE HAVE GONE THROUGH THE CHANNELS AND GET INTO THE MERITS AS OPPOSED TO THE PROCEDURE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO STATE FOR THE CASE THAN WHAT YOU JUST STATED OR ARE YOU DONE WITH YOUR PRESENTATION? >> WOULD YOU GIVE ME ONE SECOND? >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES. >> MR. CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION TODAY. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN VIERA. >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR. REMANDING TO THE VRB IS ONE OPTION. IS THERE ANOTHER OPTION ON THE TABLE OF -- I DON'T WANT TO USE THE WORD CONTINUANCE, BUT OF MAYBE ALLOWING THE COUNCIL MORE TIME, COUNSEL IN TERMS OF THE ATTORNEYS WITH AN "S," TO FLESH THESE LEGAL ISSUES OUT THAT WERE JUST PRESENTED TO US. WOULD THAT BE SOMETHING THAT -- >>MARTIN SHELBY: MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY. >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MR. SHELBY. APOLOGIZE. THESE ARE ISSUES THAT HAVE ARISEN THAT HAVE GREAT BEARING ON THIS CASE. AGAIN, OBVIOUSLY, EVERYBODY IS READY TO GO AND SO FORTH, BUT JUST MORE TIME MAY BE AN ACT OF PROFESSIONAL ACCOMMODATION ON A CASE LIKE THIS. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MR. SHELBY. >>MARTIN SHELBY: MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY. THAT IS A FAIR QUESTION, BUT FOR THE FACT THAT A CONTINUANCE DOES NOT BRING YOU FORWARD IN TIME TO BE ABLE TO REMEDY THE FACT THAT THE VRB NEVER HEARD THIS TO BEGIN WITH. UPON WHAT ARE YOU THEN REVIEWING? WHAT YOU ARE REVIEWING NOW IS A TECHNICAL DETERMINATION BASED ON CIRCUMSTANCE AND FINDINGS THAT SAID THAT THERE WAS A BASIS WITHIN THE CODE FOR THE VRB TO DISMISS IT. TWO OPTIONS I SUSPECT, THAT DOES RAISE ANOTHER OPTION, YOU CAN AFFIRM THE VRB'S DECISION PROCEDURALLY AND UPHOLD ITS DECISION, AND THEN THE OTHER CASE WILL TAKE ITS COURSE, WHATEVER THAT COURSE IS AND WHATEVER REMEDIES EXIST. CERTAINLY, EVEN A DECISION OF THIS BODY TO DO THAT ALSO HAS ADDITIONAL SAFEGUARDS PROCEDURALLY FOR THE APPLICANT. SO WHAT I'M SAYING TO YOU IS I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE GOING AND IT SOUNDS LIKE A FAIR POINT BECAUSE TIME MIGHT RESOLVE THIS ISSUE ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, BUT YOU'RE NOT AT THAT POINT TODAY. THE QUESTION IS WHETHER THERE IS A BASIS, A LEGAL BASIS THAT WOULD NOT PREJUDICE EITHER THE APPLICANT OR THE CITY BY A CONTINUANCE BY CITY COUNCIL. NOW, IF YOU REMAND IT, CERTAINLY, YOU COULD HAVE INSTRUCTIONS TO THE VRB, BUT THEN AGAIN, WHAT IS THE BASIS FOR REMANDING IT? IF IT MET THE CRITERIA WITHIN THE CODE, WHAT IS THE MESSAGE YOU'RE SENDING TO THE VRB, WHAT DIRECTION? >>ALAN CLENDENIN: FOR REFERENCE COUNCIL COMMENTS, BE CAREFUL AS YOU HEARD FROM CITY ATTORNEY, THE STATEMENT YOU MADE COULD BE USED IN THE RECORD. WE STILL HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT. WE STILL HAVE ADDITIONAL STAFF COMMENT. WE STILL HAVE REBUTTAL AVAILABLE. IF YOU HAVE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS OR SPECIFIC THAT YOU WANT TO ASK, THIS WOULD BE THE TIME. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I JUST WANT TO SAY THIS, WHEN SOMETHING HAS BEEN DISCUSSED THIS MANY TIMES AND YOU ARE AN HONORABLE MAN. I DON'T KNOW MR. FONTANA, BUT ASSUME JUST AS HONORABLE. THE CASE IS WE'RE GETTING INVOLVED IN A SITUATION WHERE WE CAN'T SOLVE IT ONE WAY OR THE OTHER WITHOUT GOING SOMEWHERE ELSE. THE COURT SAYS, COURT FINDS A CONFLICT SECTION 11 AND 21, SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT WARRANTING FURTHER LITIGATION. WHO AM I TO TELL HIM I'VE GOT TO DO IT MY WAY OR THE HIGHWAY OR YOUR WAY OR SOMEBODY ELSE'S WAY. I'M NOT QUALIFIED. HE IS THE JUDGE. HE JUST GAVE US AN ORDER, WE SOUND LIKE 47 CANARIES IN A CAGE TRYING TO DO SOMETHING WE CAN'T DO. THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY. YOUR CLIENT DESERVES TO FINISH THIS THING OUT TO GET WHAT HE NEEDS. I CAN'T GIVE YOU THAT, ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. IT'S GOT TO BE THROUGH THE PROCESS WHAT WE HAVEN'T DONE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM? COME ON FORWARD, PLEASE. IF YOU WOULD LINE UP ON THE WALL TO YOUR RIGHT, OUR LEFT. >>MARTIN SHELBY: POINT OF ORDER, PLEASE. YES, SIR. >> IF THE PUBLIC IS TO COMMENT ON THIS AND IF ANYTHING GOES INTO THE RECORD, I WOULD ASK THAT YOU LIMIT IT TO THE VERY SPECIFIC ISSUE OF THE PROCEDURAL ISSUE FROM THE VRB AND NO SUBSTANCE MAY BE DISCUSSED. >>MARTIN SHELBY: NOBODY COULD SAY IT MORE SUCCINCTLY. I WAS ABOUT TO SAY IT MYSELF. THANK YOU. IF I COULD MAKE THAT CLEAR FOR THE RECORD JUST SO IT COMES FROM MY MOUTH, PLEASE. MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY. I AGREE WITH THE APPLICANT'S COUNSEL HERE. THE ONLY SUBJECT OF THIS REVIEW HEARING IS THE PROCEDURAL PROCESS OF THE DISMISSAL. ANYTHING THAT WOULD GO TO THE MERITS OF THE CASE, ANY OPINION YOU MIGHT HAVE, ANYTHING THAT YOU MIGHT WANT TO SAY IS NOT ONLY RELEVANT BUT CAN ALSO TAINT THE RECORD. SO I'M GOING TO ASK YOU TO BE VERY CAREFUL TO LIMIT YOURSELF AS TO THE FACT THAT WHAT IS BEFORE THIS BOARD TODAY IS A DISMISSAL ON PROCEDURAL GROUNDS. COUNSELOR, DO YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING TO WHAT I JUST SAID AS A CAUTIONARY STATEMENT? >> DAVID SINGER FOR THE APPLICANT. I THINK THAT WAS PERFECT. THANK YOU, MR. SHELBY. >>TOYIN AINA-HARGRETT: TO INA AINA-HARGRETT -- TOYIN AINA-HARGRETT. IT IS THE FAILURE TO APPEAR TO ARGUE YOUR OWN MOTION TO CONTINUE AND THUS NOT HAVING YOUR APPLICATION HEARD. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: DO WE HAVE CONSENSUS ON THAT? MR. SINGER, ARE YOU OKAY WITH THAT DIRECTION? >> DAVID SINGER FOR THE APPLICANT. I AM OKAY WITH THAT DIRECTION WITH THE CAVEAT THAT IT IS IN THE RECORD THAT THERE WERE GROUNDS, COLORABLE, LEGITIMATE GROUNDS, FOR THE APPLICANT NOT TO SHOW UP TO THE VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD UNDER THE BELIEF THAT HE HAD ALREADY BEEN GRANTED THE RELIEF REQUESTED. >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN FOLLOW UP, MR. SINGER, COULD YOU TELL THIS BOARD HOW THAT POSITION WAS COMMUNICATED TO THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT OR TO STAFF PRIOR TO THE SECOND CONTINUANCE DATE THAT WAS SET? >> DAVID SINGER FOR THE APPLICANT. GIVEN YOUR DIRECTION, I WANT TO BE CAREFUL WITH WHAT I INTRODUCE AND WHAT I SAY. I WILL TELL YOU THERE WAS E-MAIL CORRESPONDENCE BETWEEN THE APPLICANT AND THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT REQUESTING A CONTINUANCE, AND THAT E-MAIL CORRESPONDENCE WENT UNRESPONDED TO. >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT WAS FOR THE SECOND CONTINUANCE. >> CORRECT, YES, SIR. BUT IN FURTHERANCE OF THE APPLICANT'S POSITION -- >>ALAN CLENDENIN: PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM. START WITH YOUR NAME. AND YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES. >> HELLO, BARBARA, 544 LUCERNE. I LIVE DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET, NOT REALLY SURE WHAT I CAN SAY, SHOULD SAY. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CAN I STOP FOR ONE SECOND. HAVE YOU ALL BEEN SWORN IN? YOU CAN START YOUR TIME AGAIN. >> BARBARA VAKA. I LIVE ACROSS THE STREET, WILL YOU CERTAIN AVENUE. NOT SURE WHAT I CAN SAY, NOT CROSSING THE LINE, OTHER THAN I BELIEVE IT IS APPROPRIATE TO SAY THAT I'M IN FAVOR OF WHAT THE VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD DID, DENYING THE APPLICATION BASED ON NOT ATTENDING -- THE APPLICANT NOT ATTENDING SINCE THEY ARE THE ONES THAT FILED THE APPLICATION. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE. START WITH YOUR NAME. >> I HAVE AN EXTRA MINUTE. >>MARTIN SHELBY: CARROLL ANN BENNETT. THAT'S FOUR MINUTES. >> ALL RIGHT. BOB ABERGER. BOSPHOROUS. SORRY WE ARE HAVING TO GO THROUGH THIS AGAIN. I'VE ATTENDED ALL MEETINGS WITH REGARD TO THE ITEM BECAUSE OF THE IMPORTANCE THAT I FELT IT HAD AND ITS IMPACT IN SETTING PRECEDENT AND CHARACTER. I WAS HERE, AND YOU CAN PROBABLY BLAME ME AT THE VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD WHEN THE DECISION WAS MADE TO TURN IT DOWN BASED UPON THE LACK OF APPEARANCE BECAUSE IT WAS 11:30 AT NIGHT. 20 OF THE 30 FOLKS WHO HAD SHOWN UP TO SPEAK HAD GIVEN UP AND GONE HOME. I HAD NEVER SEEN AN APPLICATION WITH LESS MERIT, AND I SPOKE THAT TO THE VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD AND I SAID SAVE ALL OUR TIME AND PUT A FORK IN IT. THE CITY ATTORNEY PROVIDED THEM THE GUIDANCE THAT BASED UPON THE LACK OF APPEARANCE ON TWO OCCASIONS AND THE FAILURE TO COMMUNICATE WITH REGARD TO ANY INTENT TO NOT APPEAR OR REASON NOT TO APPEAR, THAT THEY HAD FULL GROUNDS TO DENY BASED UPON PROCEDURE. WE ALL GOT TO GO HOME. NOW, HERE WE ARE AGAIN, IN MY GREAT HOPE IS THAT YOU WILL NOT CONTINUE THIS. I HAVE HEARD A COMPELLING ARGUMENT MOST OF WHICH I VEHEMENTLY DISAGREE WITH. I ENCOURAGE YOU NOT TO TAKE THE DEBATE AS YOU HEAR THE ARGUMENT TO TRY AND DRAW YOU IN TO A SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT. STAY AWAY FROM IT. PROCEDURES HERE WERE VERY CLEAR. THE VARIANCE BOARD DID THEIR JOB. THE APPLICANT DID NOT APPEAR, DID NOT COMMUNICATE. HE'S ALREADY MADE IT CLEAR IF HAD IT BEEN HEARD, HE WOULD NOT HAVE DEEMED IT WORTH HONORING. PLEASE DENY AND SAVE US ANY MORE TIME ON THIS. THANK YOU. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE. START WITH YOUR NAME. >> MY NAME IS HAROLD GALLOP. I RESIDE AT 540 WEST DAVIS BOULEVARD. WHEN I SAY I AM A LITTLE CONFUSED, IF YOU HAD A SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT THAT BYPASSED COMPLETELY -- >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE'RE NOT TALKING -- >>MARTIN SHELBY: I'M GOING TO ASK YOU TO NOT RAISE THE ISSUE OF THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT. >> I'M SORRY. LET ME REFRAME THAT. IT APPEARS WE'RE STANDING HERE TODAY WITH THE VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD NEVER HAVING BEEN ABLE TO REVIEW IN A PUBLIC SESSION THE REQUEST FOR 53, 61 FEET DEPENDING ON SEA LEVEL, ON VARIANCE SETBACKS, ON THE FRONT THAT ARE OBNOXIOUS IN ITS OWN FACE AND EXTEND THE WALL 61 FEET -- >>MARTIN SHELBY: SIR, I'M GOING TO ASK YOU TO NOT TALK ABOUT THE MERITS OF THE UNDERLYING CASE. THIS IS PURELY A PROCEDURAL MATTER. >> THEY HAVE NOT HAD THE CHANCE TO REVIEW. SEND IT BACK TO VRB WHERE THE PUBLIC CAN BE HEARD. [ SOUNDING GAVEL ] >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IF YOU REMEMBER THAT DURING THE DIRECTION THAT WAS GIVEN, WE'RE ONLY LIMITING IT TO A VERY NARROW ITEM, AND THAT IS JUST THE VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD NOT HEARING THE CASE AND REJECTING IT BASED ON NONAPPEARANCE. NONE OF THE MERITS OF THE CASE ITSELF SHOULD BE TALKED ABOUT. >> I ASK NO VOTE AND YOU WILL PASS WHAT YOU NEED TO PASS. >>MARTIN SHELBY: COUNCIL, JUST FOR PURPOSES OF THE RECORD, I'LL ASK TO YOU DISREGARD ANY DISCUSSION INVOLVING THE MERITS OF THE UNDERLYING CASE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE ONE MORE PUBLIC SPEAKER. GO AHEAD. >> HI. I'M HEATHER KIPERS. 546 LUCERNE. SINCE WE CAN'T TALK ABOUT THE CASE, I WILL TELL YOU THAT THE NEIGHBORS HAVE GOTTEN ALL TOGETHER. WE WERE PLANNING ON BEING HERE FOR THE FIRST TIME AND THEN THERE WASN'T A QUORUM. DISAPPOINTING WHEN YOU GET EVERYONE TOGETHER, ALL GO DOWN THERE. AND THEN A LOT OF US SHOWED UP IN DECEMBER, A LOT OF US, THAT GOT PUSHED, UNFORTUNATELY. YOU'RE RALLYING THE TROOPS AGAIN. PEOPLE CLEARING THEIR SCHEDULES AGAIN. THEY ARE HERE IN FEBRUARY, ALONG WITH OVER 20 PEOPLE SIGNED A PETITION, WHICH THEY'LL GET TO SEE MAYBE ONE DAY. IF YOU LOOK ON THE WEBSITE, YOU CAN SEE ALL THE PEOPLE WHO WROTE LETTERS IN OPPOSITION OF THIS. WE ALL JUST WANTED TO BE ABLE TO SAY OUR PIECE IN SOME SORT OF PUBLIC FORUM. WE WERE HERE. THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT TO SAY. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM? HEARING NONE, PUBLIC COMMENT IS NOW CLOSED. STAFF, YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY -- DO YOU HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION? CITY STAFF? SHELL AGAIN, THIS IS GOING TO BE THE OPPORTUNITY. >>MARTIN SHELBY: AGAIN, THIS IS GOING TO BE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR CITY STAFF IF YOU WANT TO INTRODUCE OR REBUT. EITHER WAY, MR. SINGER WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE LAST WORD FOR REBUTTAL. >> I WANT TO STATE AGAIN THE REASON WHY WE ARE HERE IS BECAUSE -- >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NAME. >>TOYIN AINA-HARGRETT: CITY LEGAL. THE REASON WE ARE HERE IS BECAUSE OF THE APPLICANT'S FAILURE TO ATTEND THE HEARINGS THAT HE PURSUED. THE APPLICANT WAS CLEARLY MADE AWARE OF THE IMPORTANCE OF ATTENDING, AND THE CONSEQUENCES OF NOT ATTENDING. IT IS ALSO MY UNDERSTANDING THAT CITY STAFF, SPECIFICALLY SUSAN JOHNSON VELEZ IN THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT AS WELL AS STEVEN EYSTER ADVISED OR ENCOURAGED THE APPLICANTS TO ATTEND THEIR OWN APPLICATION, AND THAT THEY DECLINED TO DO SO. AGAIN, THIS IS A SITUATION OF THEIR OWN MAKING. I'M NOT GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE SUBSTANCE. I CAN'T. I WISH I COULD. THAT WOULD BE THE SUM TOTAL OF WHAT I HAVE TO OFFER AT THIS POINT. >>MARTIN SHELBY: MAY I INQUIRE? YOU RAISED THE FACT OF STAFF BEING IN CONTACT. IS THERE ANYBODY WHO COULD TESTIFY TO THAT? OBVIOUSLY, YOU'RE NOT IN THE POSITION OF BEING ABLE TO TESTIFY YOURSELF, ARE YOU? >>TOYIN AINA-HARGRETT: I'M NOT. STEVEN EYSTER CAN LET THE CITY COUNCIL KNOW HIS EFFORTS TO ENGAGE THEM FOR THEIR OWN APPLICATION. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: START WITH YOUR NAME, PLEASE. >> STEVEN EYSTER, URBAN PLANNER 2, DEVELOPMENT AND GROWTH MANAGEMENT. AS A FACILITATOR OF THE VRB, WHEN THE SECOND CONTINUANCE DID COME WITH SUCH SHORT NOTICE, I DID REACH OUT TO THE APPLICANT, MR. RICE, AND ASKED IF HE WOULD BE THERE TO REPRESENT HIS APPLICATION. HE TOLD ME NO, HE WOULD NOT BE IN ATTENDANCE TO REPRESENT HIS APPLICATION. AND THAT HE WILL BE AT DINNER. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU. >>TOYIN AINA-HARGRETT: WITH THAT, IT WOULD BE OUR RECOMMENDATION THAT CITY COUNCIL UPHOLD VRB'S DENIAL ON THE PROCEDURAL GROUNDS. IF CITY COUNCIL IS NOT INCLINED TO DO THAT AT A MINIMUM -- AT THE MOST, EXCUSE ME, AT THE MOST, REMAND IT BACK DOWN TO THEM TO HAVE IT HEARD ON THE SUBSTANCE. BUT CERTAINLY, THIS COUNCIL AND THE VRB'S RULES OF PROCEDURE NEED TO BE UPHELD AND CIRCUMVENTING THEM WOULD NOT BE APPROPRIATE. THOSE WOULD BE OUR RECOMMENDATIONS. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU. APPLICANT, REBUTTAL. >> DAVID SINGER FOR THE APPLICANT. I WANT TO JUST MAKE IT CLEAR, THERE WAS CERTAINLY NO INTENDED DISRESPECT TO THE VRB AND THERE WAS CERTAINLY NO INTENDED DISRESPECT TO THE NEIGHBORS. THERE WAS A COLORABLE POSITION OF LAW THAT WAS TAKEN. THERE WAS ADVOCACY ON BEHALF OF AN APPLICANT. I HOPE THAT YOU CONSIDER THAT WHEN YOU CONSIDER YOUR NEXT MOVE HERE IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MINUTES. I RESPECT MR. VIERA'S RECOMMENDATION THAT THERE EITHER BE A CONTINUANCE TO LOOK INTO WHETHER OR NOT YOU CAN HEAR THIS. I BELIEVE YOU CAN. OR, AS MS. HARGRETT SAID, AT WORST, SEND THIS BACK TO VRB. I SUPPOSE WE CAN HAVE A SUBSTANTIVE DISCUSSION WITH THEM. AND IF PEOPLE ARE UNSATISFIED WITH THAT RESULT, THEN WE COULD POTENTIALLY COME BACK HERE AND SPEAK WITH YOU ALL ABOUT IT. BUT TO DISMISS THIS OUTRIGHT WOULD BE A MISCARRIAGE TODAY. THANK YOU. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU. DOES THAT CONCLUDE YOUR REBUTTAL? CAN I GET A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING? MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO. SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA. ALL IN FAVOR, AYE. OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT. ANYBODY WANT TO MAKE A MOTION? COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. >>LYNN HURTAK: I MOVE TO UPHOLD THE VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD'S DENIAL OF THE VARIANCE APPLICATION VRB 25-83 FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 541 LUCERNE AVENUE BECAUSE PETITIONER FAILED TO PROVIDE COMPETENT AND SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE TO OVERTURN THE VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD'S DECISION TO DENY THE APPLICATION BASED UPON THE RULES OF PROCEDURE, BASED UPON THE APPLICANT'S STATEMENT OF NOT BELIEVING THEY NEEDED TO GO TO THE VRB AND OUR STAFF STATEMENT ABOUT REACHING OUT AND CONTACTING THEM. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. I HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO. COUNCILMAN VIERA. >>LUIS VIERA: AGAIN, I'M GOING TO VOTE AGAINST THAT AND HERE'S WHY. I THINK THERE IS A THIRD WAY WHICH IS TO EITHER SEND THIS BACK TO THE VRB TO DENY IT ON THAT BASIS. I THINK ASSUMES THERE WAS SOME REASONING OUTSIDE OF A THEORY TO PROGRESS THE CASE THAT I THINK IS BECOMING APPARENT NOW, TO TRULY FLESH THIS OUT, TO TRULY BE ABLE TO FIND THE DISPOSITIVE ISSUES ON THIS, YOU EITHER NEED TO SEE IF WE CAN REALLY HEAR THIS AND TAKE A LOOK AT THE SETTLEMENT ISSUES OR ALTERNATIVELY SEND IT BACK TO THE VRB. I THINK THAT IS THE BETTER COMPROMISE ON THIS BECAUSE I THINK THE FOUNDATION OF THIS PRETTY MUCH MAKES THE FAILURE TO GO TO THE VRB SEEM AS IF IT WAS A FLAGRANT, WE'RE JUST NOT GOING TO BE THERE. NO, IT WAS BASED UPON AN UNDERSTANDING THAT I THINK IS BECOMING APPARENT NOW, MAY NOT HAVE BEEN SO. I DO THINK THAT IS THE BETTER OPTION. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I KIND OF CONCUR WITH COUNCILMAN VIERA. WHILE I GENERALLY, NOT SHOWING UP AT HEARINGS WEIGHS HEAVILY ON MY SOUL. THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE, IF THEY FEEL LIKE THEY HAD A LEGAL CASE THAT PRECLUDED THEM OR MADE THAT POINT UNNECESSARY, AND I THINK THAT MAYBE RIGHT NOW IT'S PREMATURE TO CLOSE THE DOORS ON BOTH OPTIONS. I THINK I WOULD PREFER TO SEE THAT OTHER DOOR CONTINUE TO BE OPENED AS THE ONE CASE MOVES FORWARD, IF WE WERE TO DEFER THIS BACK TO THE BOARD, I THINK IT GIVES THEM AMPLE OPPORTUNITY. THEY HAVE BOTH BITES AT THE APPLE. COUNCILMAN MIRANDA. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THIS IS NOT WASHINGTON, D.C. THIS IS TAMPA, FLORIDA. THE JUDGE SAID HERE WHAT HE WANTS. THAT'S ALL. WHATEVER HAPPENED IN THE VRB OR DIDN'T HAPPEN. THAT'S BETWEEN THEM AND THEM. BUT I'M NOT PART OF THAT. I'M NOT PART OF THE JUDGE EITHER. I'M CAUGHT IN THE MIDDLE. I'M FINE WITH THE MOTION, THE FIRST MOTION WAS TO DENY SO THEY CAN DO SOMETHING AND MOVE FORWARD. FURTHER LITIGATION IS NEEDED. THAT'S WHAT THE JUDGE SAID, NOT ME. THAT'S WHAT THE JUDGE SAID. AND IT HASN'T BEEN DONE. I ADMIRE EVERYBODY HERE. ADMIRE THE PEOPLE THAT SHOWED UP AT THE HEARING. ADMIRE THE PETITIONER, THE PERSON REPRESENTING THE CONFLICT BETWEEN THEM AND THEM. PARTY IN SETTLEMENT, WARRANTING FURTHER LITIGATION. I'M NOT A LITIGATOR. I'M NOT A JUDGE. THAT BELONGS IN THE COURT, NOT HERE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ROLL CALL VOTE PLEASE. COUNCILMAN VIERA. >>BILL CARLSON: I ALSO WANT TO SAY, I THINK THAT ALTHOUGH IT WOULD BE BETTER PROBABLY FROM THE NEIGHBOR'S POINT OF VIEW TO TRY TO KILL IT RIGHT NOW, I THINK THAT WILL LEAD TO FURTHER LITIGATION THAT WILL DRAG THIS OUT AND BE MORE MEETINGS TO GO TO. I THINK IT'S CLEANER FROM A PROCESS POINT OF VIEW TO HAVE THE VRB DENY IT AND THEN SEE WHERE IT GOES FROM THERE. WHAT HAPPENS IN LITIGATION IS THAT THE -- I'M TALKING GENERICALLY, THE CITY TYPICALLY WILL NEGOTIATE AND THEN THE NEIGHBORS AREN'T HAPPY AND DEVELOPERS AREN'T HAPPY. HAVING A CLEAN PROCESS IS EASIER THAN DEALING WITH LITIGATION. >>LUIS VIERA: THIS IS A QUESTION ON THE MOTION TO MR. SHELBY, WHICH IS IT BEING PREDICATED ON AN APPARENT NONATTENDANCE AT THE UNDERLYING HEARING, AND, BY THE WAY, THIS IS NOTHING ON COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK WHO MAKES A LOT OF THESE MOTIONS THAT SOME OF US DON'T WANT TO MAKE AND ALWAYS DOES A STELLAR JOB, NOTHING ON THAT. BUT IS THAT A RATIONALE THAT CAN BE RELIED UPON FROM A LEGAL PERSPECTIVE TO DENY THIS? >>MARTIN SHELBY: PROCEDURALLY? >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR. >>MARTIN SHELBY: MY UNDERSTANDING IS, AND YOU'VE BEEN ADVISED BY THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE THAT THE ANSWER TO THAT IS YES. >>LUIS VIERA: CURIOSITY. THANK YOU. >>LYNN HURTAK: I WILL HAPPILY ADD IN THAT IT IS PART OF THE VRB'S RULES AND PROCEDURES THAT WERE EFFECTIVE -- THEY ARE NOT OLD -- EFFECTIVE SEPTEMBER 10 OF 2024, SECTION 4.10, CONTINUANCE, IF THE APPLICANT FAILS TO APPEAR AT THE SCHEDULED PUBLIC MEETING, APPLICANT SHALL BE CONTINUED FOR 60 DAYS. AND -- I DID NOT READ ALL OF THIS. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: TAKE YOUR TIME. SHELL SHELT IF YOU DO HAVE A QUESTION THAT -- >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF YOU DO HAVE A QUESTION THAT WOULD BE ANSWERED EVIDENTIARY PERSPECTIVE, YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO REOPEN THE HEARING IF YOU FEEL THE NEED. >>LYNN HURTAK: NO. I'VE GOT IT. I KNEW I HAD SEEN IT. 7.1 APPEARANCE BY THE APPLICANT. APPLICANT OR AUTHORIZED AGENT SHALL APPEAR IN SUPPORT OF THE APPLICATION AT THE PUBLIC HEARING. IF THE APPLICANT OR AUTHORIZED AGENT FAILS TO APPEAR, THE APPLICATION SHALL BE CONTINUED FOR 60 DAYS. IF THE APPLICANT OR AUTHORIZED AGENT FAILS TO APPEAR AT THE SECOND HEARING, THE APPLICATION SHALL BE DENIED. IT'S VERY SIMPLE LANGUAGE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, YOU'LL ACCEPT THAT? WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO WITH THE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION. ROLL CALL, PLEASE. >>NAYA YOUNG: YES. >>LUIS VIERA: NO. >>BILL CARLSON: NO. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES. >>LYNN HURTAK: YES. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NO. >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH VIERA, CARLSON, AND CLENDENIN VOTING NO. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU. WELL, THAT WAS AN INTERESTING ONE. ORDINANCE PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION. ITEM 103. >>CARL BRODY: GOOD AFTERNOON, CARL BRODY, LEGAL DEPARTMENT. I AM HERE TODAY ON ITEM 103, BRINGING BACK THE PROPOSED VETERANS AFFAIRS COMMITTEE ORDINANCE. LAST MEETING, WE TALKED ABOUT WHAT THE RESPONSIBILITIES OF IT WOULD BE. I THINK THERE WAS AGREEMENT THAT THERE WAS A VALUE THERE, BUT THERE WAS A DECISION WANTING TO CHANGE UP THE MAKEUP OF THE COMMITTEE. WHAT WE DID IS WE WENT BACK, WE REDUCED THE NUMBER TO 11 MEMBERS. CHOSEN ONE FROM EACH COUNCILPERSON, FOUR FROM THE MAYOR, AND WE REQUIRED AT LEAST 75% OF THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE WOULD BE VETERANS, AND WE ALSO REDUCED ELIGIBILITY TO JUST EITHER VETERANS OR GOLD STAR FAMILY MEMBERS. SO THOSE ARE THE CHANGES THAT WE MADE AT YOUR REQUEST AND UPON DISCUSSION WITH MEMBERS. AND WE JUST ARE AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE REGARDING THIS ORDINANCE. >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY, MR. CHAIR, WHENEVER. THANK YOU, SIR. MR. BRODY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THIS. WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR HARD WORK ON THIS. TO BE CLEAR, IT'S 75% OF THE COMMITTEE HAS TO BE VETERANS, BUT THE OTHER 25% IN TERMS OF NONVETERANS ARE GOLD STAR FAMILY MEMBERS. >>CARL BRODY: CORRECT. >>LUIS VIERA: THAT WAS SOMETHING BROUGHT UP IN THE FIRST PART AND THE FIRST TIME WE HEARD THIS AND THAT'S VERY REASONABLE. I HAVE NO OBJECTION TO THAT, OBVIOUSLY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR HARD WORK. I ENVISION THIS BEING A BOARD HERE FOR OUR CITY OF TAMPA THAT TAKES THE LEAD ON A LOT OF OUR PATRIOTIC CEREMONIES, THINGS THAT IN THE PAST I THINK WE USED TO DEFER TO THE COUNTY ON, THINGS FOR LIKE MEMORIAL DAY, VETERANS DAY, PURPLE HEART DAY, THINGS LIKE THAT. IT RECOGNIZES THE FACT THAT OUR CITY OF TAMPA, WE ARE A VERY, VERY PATRIOTIC CITY. WE LOVE OUR COUNTRY, ALL OF US, WHETHER REPUBLICANS, DEMOCRATS OR INDEPENDENTS, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE GOT OUR 250-YEAR ANNIVERSARY AS THE UNITED STATES COMING UP. FOR ME AS I SEE IT, VERY DIFFICULT TIMES IN OUR COUNTRY RIGHT NOW. A LOT OF THINGS HAPPENING THAT BREAK MY HEART ON AMERICAN ISSUES. BUT REGARDLESS OF HOW WE FEEL ABOUT THOSE ISSUES, WHAT'S RIGHT WITH AMERICA HELPS HEAL WHAT IS WRONG WITH AMERICA. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S RIGHT WITH AMERICA ARE OUR VETERANS. THOSE ARE THINGS THAT TAMPA CELEBRATES. I THINK THIS IS A WONDERFUL THING AND I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING WHO COUNCIL MEMBERS PICK. WE HAVE A LOT OF GOOD FOLKS HERE AND WHO THE MAYOR PICKS AND EVERYTHING. AGAIN, CARL, YOU ARE ALWAYS A PLEASURE TO WORK WITH, MAN, AS AN ATTORNEY. I APPRECIATE YOU. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN VIERA, WOULD YOU LIKE TO READ THE SUBSTITUTE? >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR. I READ AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, AMENDING CHAPTER 2, ARTICLE VI, CITY OF TAMPA CODE BY ADDING SECTION 2-326 DEFINITIONS, SECTION 2-327, VETERANS' ADVISORY COMMITTEE, SECTION 2-328 MEETINGS, SECTION 2-329 PURPOSE AND FUNCTION, REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT THEREWITH, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA. SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. OPPOSED? COUNCILMAN MIRANDA. I AM BRAIN DEAD. MY BRAIN IS MUSH TODAY. I DID NOT SLEEP LAST NIGHT. IT WAS UNANIMOUS. >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD JUNE 4, 2026 AT 10:00 A.M. IN CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS, 315 EAST KENNEDY BOULEVARD, THIRD FLOOR, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33602. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SEND YOU BACK TO LAW SCHOOL 101 FOR THE ROMAN NUMERALS. DON'T YOU LEARN THAT LIKE THE FIRST HOUR? NUMBER 104, PLEASE. BRANDON. GOOD TO SEE YOU. >>EMMA GREGORY: EMMA GREGORY, LEGAL DEPARTMENT. BRANDON CAMPBELL, MOBILITY DIRECTOR AND ADAM PURCELL FROM THE MOBILITY DEPARTMENT ARE HERE WITH ME. WE ARE HERE FOR ITEM NUMBER 104 WHICH IS AN AMENDMENT TO SECTION 22-103, THE SIDEWALK IN LIEU FEE ORDINANCE. COUNCIL MADE A MOTION MARCH 26 ASKING CITY STAFF TO WORK WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO COME UP WITH A SET OF CRITERIA THAT WOULD ALLOW THE CITY SOME FLEXIBILITY IN CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES. SO THAT IS WHAT IS BEFORE YOU TODAY. THIS PROPOSED ORDINANCE ELIMINATES THE SO-CALLED SIDEWALK TO NOWHERE EXEMPTION, WHICH IS THE EXISTING SECTION 22-103-C-1. AND IT ALSO CREATES A NEW CRITERION FOR FINDINGS OF IMPRACTICABILITY WHICH ALLOWS APPLICANTS TO PAY INTO THE SIDEWALK IN LIEU FEE. SO WE BELIEVE THIS FULFILLS THE SPIRIT OF COUNCIL'S MOTION. DEFINE PROPERTY IN DEFINED RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE THERE IS NO EXISTING COMMERCIAL USE, NO EXISTING SCHOOLS OR CHURCHES AND NO EXISTING SIDEWALKS AND CONSTRUCTION WOULD NEGATIVELY IMPACT THE QUALITY OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THESE APPLICANTS COULD NOW PAY INTO THE SIDEWALK IN LIEU FEE. SO WE ARE ASKING FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL OF THIS ON FIRST READING TODAY. >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS? I BELIEVE NOW WE GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT. IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS, PLEASE COME UP. JUST START WITH YOUR NAME. >> HI. I'M ANN FLEVOS. I AM A SOUTH TAMPA RESIDENT. I JUST WANTED TO EXTEND MY GRATITUDE THANKING THE COUNCIL AND THE CITY ATTORNEY FOR TAKING THE TIME TO CREATE A THOUGHTFUL EXCEPTION THROUGH THIS ADDITION OF ITEM NUMBER 4, WHERE IT SIMPLY MAKES GOOD SENSE. WE APPRECIATE THE TIME, CONSIDERATION, PROFESSIONALISM THAT WENT INTO THIS PROCESS AND WE ARE GRATEFUL FOR YOUR SUPPORT AND HELPING PRESERVE THE INTEGRITY AND CHARACTER OF SOUTH TAMPA NEIGHBORHOODS WHILE ALLOWING FOR PRACTICAL SOLUTIONS WHERE APPROPRIATE. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP. THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AND YOUR SUPPORT. >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU SO MUCH. NEXT. >> HELLO, CITY COUNCIL. GOOD AFTERNOON. PAULA FLORES. I AM A RESIDENT AND MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY IN TAMPA. ALSO A MEMBER OF WALK-BIKE TAMPA AND HOPE YOU CONSIDERED OUR LETTER OF SUPPORT URGING APPROVAL OF THE AMENDED CITY SIDEWALK ORDINANCE AGENDA ITEM 104 ATTACHED TO TODAY'S AGENDA. WHAT I SEE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS IS CONCERNING. MISSING SIDEWALKS, INADEQUATE CROSSINGS, MOMS PUSHING STROLLERS AND SO FORTH. THESE ARE THE EVERYDAY REALITIES ACROSS TAMPA. AND THEY ARE PART OF WHY OUR REGION CONTINUES TO BE ONE OF THE DEADLIEST IN THE NATION FOR PEOPLE WALKING IN OUR COMMUNITY. BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET OFF THIS LIST UNTIL WE MOVE FORWARD AND WE ACCEPT THIS AMENDMENT TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN OUR COMMUNITY. WE KNOW WE RECOGNIZE AT TIMES WE HAVE TO MAKE SOME CONCESSIONS MAY BE NECESSARY TO MOVE FORWARD AND PADDLEBOARD. BUT WHILE WE -- PADDLE FORWARD. WHILE WE BELIEVE SIDEWALKS SHOULD BE BUILT WHENEVER POIBLE, WE SUPPORT THE AMENDMENTS LISTED IN THE ORDINANCE AS LONG AS PAYMENT IN LIEU OF CONSTRUCTION IS A REQUIREMENT. NO EXCEPTIONS THERE. BECAUSE AS YOU KNOW, THE CITY HAS 1200 MILES OF SIDEWALK GAPS AND EVERY PENNY MOVING FORWARD TO ANOTHER LOCATION, WE'RE GOING TO SUPPORT. WE TRUST CITY COUNCIL WILL CONSIDER NOT ONLY THE VOICES IN THIS ROOM TODAY, BUT ALSO THE MANY RESIDENTS WHO DEPEND ON SAFER STREETS EVERY DAY TO WALK TO SCHOOL, TO WORK, TO THE PARK AND CANNOT BE HERE TO SPEAK. SO PLEASE VOTE YES. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER. >> HI. MY NAME IS CARROLL ANN BENNETT. I'M HERE TO SUPPORT THIS CODE CHANGE. WALK BIKE TAMPA, SIDEWALK STOMPERS AND MANY NEIGHBORHOODS LIKE MacFARLANE PARK FOUGHT FOR YEARS TO GET THE CODE CHANGED AND THE FEES RAISED. WE TRIED TO ELIMINATE THE EXEMPTION FOR NO CONNECTING SIDEWALK BUT WERE TOLD THE EXEMPTIONS WOULD BE RARELY GRANTED AND FLEXIBILITY WAS NEEDED. THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN. THAT EXCUSE WAS APPROVED MORE THAN THE OTHER THREE COMBINED, AND TO MAKE IT WORSE, THEY MADE MISTAKES AND APPROVED THEM EVEN WHEN THERE WAS A SIDEWALK NEXT DOOR. IF THE CODE HAD BEEN ADMINISTERED CORRECTLY, WE WOULDN'T BE HERE TODAY. THOSE MISTAKES ARE WHY THE MOTION WAS MADE TO REMOVE THE EXEMPTION. WE WANT IT ELIMINATED BUT WE'RE WILLING TO SUPPORT THIS COMPROMISE AS LONG AS THE FEE STAYS MANDATORY. MOBILITY USES THOSE FEES TO BUILD SIDEWALKS AROUND SCHOOLS. THEY PRIORITIZE SCHOOLS THAT HAVE A LOT OF CHILDREN WHO ARE FORCED TO WALK IN THE STREET AND SOMETIMES IN THE DARK BECAUSE THEIR PARENTS DON'T HAVE THE LUXURY OF DRIVING THEIR CHILDREN TO SCHOOL, EVEN THOUGH IT IS UNSAFE TO WALK. SCHOOLS LIKE SULPHUR SPRINGS WHERE CHILDREN HAVE NO BUSES, FEW SIDEWALKS, AND THE NEW BUILDS HAVE NOT BEEN MADE TO INSTALL SIDEWALKS. Y'ALL WILL BE VOTING ON A PLAN FOR THEM. WHEN VIRGINIA PARK'S -- I LEFT IT AT THE SEAT. OH, WELL. JUST IMAGINE A MAP I'LL SHOW YOU. WHEN VIRGINIA PARK'S 100-YEAR-OLD PIPES WERE REPLACED THE CITY WAS GOING TO FILL IN MANY SIDEWALK GAPS WITH THE MONEY FROM ALL FOR TRANSPORTATION TAX. WHEN THAT FUNDING WAS LOST, THE SIDEWALKS WERE CANCELED. HERE IS THE MAP. MORE THAN HALF OF THOSE HOUSES WERE NEW BUILDS AND SHOULD HAVE HAD SIDEWALKS. IF THE CITY MADE THEM BUILD SIDEWALKS AS THEY SHOULD, THE COST WOULD BE WAY, WAY LESS AND THE CITY MIGHT HAVE HAD THE MONEY TO GO AHEAD WITH THE PROJECT AND FILL THE FEW GAPS. THAT IS THE CITY'S DECADES LONG, BIG-PICTURE PLAN FOR FILLING SIDEWALK GAPS. BUT SO MANY HOUSES WERE GRANTED EXEMPTION, IT DOUBLED THE GAPS. MANY DIDN'T PAY A FEE. THE CITY KIND OF SHOT ITSELF IN THE FOOT AND SABOTAGED ITS OWN PLAN. THEY FAILED US WITH A LACK OF FOLLOW-THROUGH. TAMPA IS EXCELLENT AT KILLING AND INJURING ITS PEDESTRIANS AND CYCLISTS. PEOPLE AREN'T BEING MOWED DOWN ON SIDEWALKS. WE NEED LEADERSHIP THAT WILL ACT IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE WHOLE POPULATION. WE NEED THESE FEES TO PROTECT OUR MOST VULNERABLE PEOPLE. WE FOUGHT VERY HARD FOR THIS PROGRESS. I BELIEVE THAT THIS AMENDMENT IS APPROPRIATE, AND IT WON'T HAMPER OUR PROGRESS, BUT WE DON'T WANT TO GO BACKWARDS. PLEASE VOTE YES. THANK YOU. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU, CARROLL ANN. ANYBODY ELSE IN THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK? MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO. SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT. COUNCILMAN CARLSON. >>BILL CARLSON: I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO THE FOLKS IN THE COMMUNITY. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE ON COUNCIL HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THE COMMUNITY ON FOR A LONG, LONG TIME AS CARROLL ANN MENTIONED. GOVERNMENT IS SUPPOSED TO BE RESPONSIVE TO PEOPLE AND EVERYTHING IN GOING THROUGH THAT PROCESS, IT TAKES A -- DEMOCRACY TAKES A LONG TIME AND THE PROCESS MODIFIED IT SLIGHTLY ALONG THE WAY. TODAY WE DON'T HAVE ANY OPPOSITION. I HOPE WE DON'T HAVE TO STRENGTHEN IT AGAIN. THE ULTIMATE PROBLEM -- THE ULTIMATE CHALLENGE IS TO KEEP PEOPLE SAFE AS FOLKS SAID. ON MY OWN STREET, WE DON'T EVEN HAVE SIDEWALKS I THINK IN A THIRD OF THE HOUSES. THERE ARE FOLKS IN WHEELCHAIRS THAT ARE GOING DOWN THE MIDDLE OF MY STREET. WE SEE THAT REPLICATED ALL OVER THE CITY. WE'VE GOT TO FIX THE PROBLEM. TOO DANGEROUS TO HAVE KIDS, PEOPLE IN WHEELCHAIRS, JOGGERS WITH THEIR iPODs IN THEIR EARS, AIR PODS, SORRY. WE NEED TO MAKE THE CITY SAFER. THANK YOU TO EVERYBODY FOR THEIR HELP ON THIS. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: JUST TO ECHO WHAT COUNCILMAN CARLSON SAID, THANKS TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD FOR STEPPING UP. WHEN YOU LOOK AROUND WHAT THEY HAVE, THEY HAVE HOUSES AND GOOD NEIGHBORS. THEY DON'T HAVE NO BUSINESSES. THEY DON'T HAVE NO CHURCHES. THEY DON'T HAVE ANYTHING OTHER THAN A GOOD LIFE. WHEN YOU HAVE PEOPLE THAT SPEAK WITH EACH OTHER, IT'S BETTER TO LIVE THERE THAN ANYWHERE ELSE IN THE WORLD BECAUSE WE LOST THAT ART IN AMERICA ABOUT SPEAKING AND LOOKING AT SOMEBODY IN THE FACE AND JUST HAVING A STANDARD CONVERSATION. I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR DOING THAT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. >>LYNN HURTAK: I WANT TO THANK EVERYONE. I WAS THRILLED WHEN WE FOUGHT HARD TO GET THE FEE INCREASED, AND THIS WAS THE SECOND PART OF THIS. I'M GLAD WE COULD WORK TOGETHER TO FIND A SOLUTION THAT WORKS FOR EVERYONE. THAT'S REALLY WHAT THIS IS ALL ABOUT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. VERY EXCITED. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN VIERA. >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I HAD TO TAKE A CALL OVER THERE FOR SOMETHING WITH THE CITY. I APOLOGIZE, BECAUSE I WAS TALKING. I RAN BACK IN HERE. OBVIOUSLY I WOULD HAVE VOTED YES ON THIS. LOOKING FORWARD TO VOTING FOR SECOND READING. SOMETIMES YOU GET CALLS -- >> WE HAVEN'T VOTED YET. >>LUIS VIERA: I'LL BE DAMNED. THAT'S FUNNY. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: OH, MY WORD. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING, CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE CITY OF TAMPA CODE OF ORDINANCES CHAPTER 22, ARTICLE 1, DIVISION 3, SUBDIVISION 3, SECTION 22-103, WHEN NEW SIDEWALK CONSTRUCTION IS REQUIRED, CONTRIBUTIONS TO SIDEWALK TRUST FUND IN LIEU OF CONSTRUCTING A SIDEWALK, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO. WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. OPPOSED? >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON JUNE 4, 2026 AT 10:00 A.M. IN CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS, 315 EAST KENNEDY BOULEVARD, THIRD FLOOR, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33602. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU. [ APPLAUSE ] [ SOUNDING GAVEL ] YOU ARE OUT OF ORDER. CONGRATULATIONS, BRANDON AND ALL THE STAFF THAT WAS A PART OF THIS. ITEM 105. >>CARL BRODY: GOOD AFTERNOON, CITY COUNCIL. CARL BRODY, LEGAL DEPARTMENT. AND I HAVE WITH ME THE DIRECTOR OF THE EQUAL BUSINESS OPPORTUNITY DEPARTMENT, MS. BERTHA MITCHELL. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL. I WOULD LOVE TO INTRODUCE OUR AMAZING EQUAL BUSINESS OPPORTUNITY, MR. ARDELL ALLEN. HE IS OUR CERTIFICATION EXPERT, NEW CERTIFICATION. MS. LYDA PEREZ, SHE IS OUR OUTREACH SPECIALIST. AMAZING. MR. SAGEN PATEL, PRODUCING AMAZING REPORTS. CHECK OUT OUR WEBSITE. IT IS AMAZING. WE HAVE MS. KATLYN DOORSBACH. SHE IS ALSO OUR REPORTING EXPERT AND SHE IS CONDUCTING ON-SITE VISITS TO MAKE SURE PRIME AND SUBCONTRACTORS ARE GETTING ALONG. AND WE HAVE MS. LORETTA BROWN WHO DOES OUR CONTRACT COMPLIANCE TO ENSURE THAT OUR SUBCONTRACTORS AND CERTIFIED FIRMS ARE PAID EXPEDITIOUSLY. AMAZING TEAM. THANK YOU. I COULDN'T DO WHAT WE DO WITHOUT THEM. THANK YOU. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU. >>CARL BRODY: ITEM 105, THIS IS AN ORDINANCE WE'RE BRINGING BEFORE CITY COUNCIL. IT'S NOT BECAUSE WE WANT TO BRING THIS. THIS IS NOT THE ORDINANCE WE WANTED YOU TO HAVE TO REVIEW AND APPROVE. THIS IS ONE WE HAVE TO GET REVIEWED AND APPROVED BECAUSE OF THE CHANGE IN LAW THAT WE'VE RUN INTO. SO, LET ME GO THROUGH QUICKLY, WHAT CHANGES ARE PRECIPITATING THIS. IN JANUARY OF 2025, THE NEW TRUMP ADMINISTRATION ISSUED EXECUTIVE ORDER 14173, AND THAT SPECIFICALLY PROHIBITED GRANDEES AND CONTRACTORS -- GRANTEES AND CONTRACTORS FROM USING -- PRACTICING ANY DEI PROGRAMS. IT WASN'T GREATLY DEFINED, BUT IT WAS BROADLY DEFINED ENOUGH THAT IT INCLUDED ANY PROGRAM THAT PROVIDED SPECIAL BENEFIT BASED ON WHAT PREVIOUSLY WERE CONSIDERED PROTECTED CLASSES, RACE, GENDER, ETHNICITY. TO CLARIFY THAT, IN JULY OF 2025, THE ATTORNEY GENERAL, PAM BONDI, ISSUED A MEMORANDUM WARNING ALL OF THE CONTRACTORS AND GRANTEES OF FEDERAL FUNDS THAT ANY USE OF DEI BY THEIR ORGANIZATIONS WOULD RESULT IN THEM LOSING THOSE GRANTS OR IF THEY SIGNED OFF ON A GRANT KNOWING THAT THEY HAD A PROGRAM THAT WOULD BE SUBJECT TO A DEI-TYPE INTERPRETATION, THAT THEY WOULD BE SUBJECT TO POTENTIAL FALSE CLAIM ACT CLAIMS, WHICH IS A FEDERAL VIOLATION AND BRINGS ITS OWN SEPARATE PENALTIES, INCLUDING THREE TIMES DAMAGES. IN THE EVENT WE HAD A FEDERAL GRANT THAT WAS A MILLION DOLLARS, THE POTENTIAL PENALTY TO THE CITY WOULD BE $3 MILLION. THAT WAS THE SUGGESTION OR RESULT OF THE BONDI MEMO THAT WE'RE CONCERNED WITH. WE ALSO HAVE IN JANUARY, ACTUALLY, JANUARY 19, 2026, THIS YEAR, THE ATTORNEY GENERAL OF THE STATE OF FLORIDA ISSUED A MEMO NOTING THAT ANY STATE STATUTE OR ANY CITY STATUTE OR ANY COUNTY STATUTE THAT PROVIDED ANY KIND OF DEI, AGAIN, GENERALLY TERMED, THAT WOULD PROVIDE A BENEFIT BASED ON PROTECTED CLASS, GENDER, RACE, ETHNICITY, WOULD NOT BE SUPPORTED BY THE STATE AND ANY CHALLENGE, THE STATE WOULD SUPPORT THE CHALLENGER. TO MAKE IT MORE DIFFICULT FOR US TO BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN A PROGRAM LIKE THE EBO PROGRAM, THE STATE MORE RECENTLY JUST THIS MONTH AGO PASSED ITS NEW LAW, SECTION 16604971, WHICH ALSO PROHIBITED ANY CITY, ANY COUNTY FROM BEING INVOLVED PROMOTING ANY ACTIVITIES THAT REFERENCE RACE, ETHNICITY, GENDER. WHAT CONCERNS US WITH THAT ONE, THIS MOST RECENT PRIMARILY IS THAT THE PENALTY FOR A VIOLATION OF THAT IS DIRECTLY FOCUSED ON CITY COUNCILS AND COUNTY COMMISSIONS. IF IT'S DETERMINED THAT A VIOLATION OF ONE OF THESE PROVISIONS IS VIOLATED, THE PENALTY WOULD BE MALFEASANCE. THE OUTCOME OF A MALFEASANCE PENALTY IS A REMOVAL FROM OFFICE. SO THAT WAS A BIG CONCERN FOR US WITH THE NEW LAW THAT CAME FROM THE STATE. ALSO IT GAVE -- OR GIVES ANY RESIDENT OF THE CITY OR THIS COUNTY OR THE STATE STANDING TO BE ABLE TO BRING A CASE, CHALLENGING ANY OF OUR PROGRAMS THAT MIGHT PROVIDE SOME DEI-RELATED BENEFIT. AGAIN, THE TERMS AREN'T STRICTLY DEFINED, WHICH IS WHAT MAKES IT MORE DIFFICULT FOR US FROM A LEGAL POSITION TO BE ABLE TO DEFEND. WHAT DOES OCCUR FROM JUST A BROAD INTERPRETATION IS THAT IT CHILLS SOME OF OUR ABILITY TO OPERATE PROGRAMS THAT WE LIKE TO OPERATE. BUT IT'S NECESSARY FOR US TO DO THAT IN ORDER TO PROTECT THE CITY, PROTECT YOU, CITY COUNCIL, AND TO PROTECT OUR OVERALL PROGRAM. BECAUSE WHAT WE DON'T WANT TO DO IS HAVE SOMEBODY CHALLENGE OUR PROGRAM, HAVE IT BE FOUND TO BE IN VIOLATION OF ANY OF THESE LAWS, RESULTING IN CLOSING A PROGRAM FOR AN EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME UNTIL WE CAN DO WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW, WHICH IS RECONSTITUTE IT. ALSO WE WANT TO PROTECT THE CITY AGAINST LOSING MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN GRANTS, MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN CONTRACTS THAT WE GET FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. WE DO KNOW THAT THERE IS A LOT OF ACTIVITY OUT THERE BY PRIVATE ORGANIZATIONS THAT DO THEIR OWN KIND OF AUDITS TO DETERMINE IF LOCAL GOVERNMENTS AND STATE GOVERNMENTS CONTINUE TO OPERATE ANY TYPE OF PROGRAMS LIKE THIS. SO WE KNOW THERE ARE GROUPS OUT THERE LOOKING FOR THIS. WE KNOW THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT NOW HAS A WING OF ITS DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE THAT'S LOOKING TO SEE IF ANY LOCAL STATE GOVERNMENTS ARE INVOLVED OR CONTINUE TO HAVE PROGRAMS THAT PROVIDE ANY KIND OF DEI RELATED BENEFIT. SO IT'S OUR BEST ADVICE TO THE EBO AND TO YOU ALSO THAT WE AMEND OUR ORDINANCE. WE AMEND IT TO MAKE IT RACE NEUTRAL. THAT SHOULD PROTECT US AGAINST ANY CHALLENGES. THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TODAY FOR YOU TO CONSIDER. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU, CARL. >> YES, SIR. I WOULD LIKE TO THANK COUNCIL FOR TAKING SWIFT ACTION AND RECONVENING THE EQUAL BUSINESS OPPORTUNITY ADVISORY COMMITTEE. THEY RECONVENE IN JUNE 2025, AND THE OFFICIAL SUSPENSION OF THE PROGRAM WAS SEPTEMBER 5 OF 2025. THAT GROUP MET EVERY SINGLE MONTH, SOMETIMES TWICE A MONTH. THEY ARE BUSINESS OWNERS AND PROFESSIONALS WHO TOOK TIME AWAY FROM THEIR BUSINESS AND THEIR PROFESSION FOR THIS CAUSE. I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THEM PUBLICLY FOR THEIR DEDICATION AND THEIR EFFORT. AND, AGAIN, FOR YOU RECONVENING THE EBOAC. I DEFINITELY AGAIN THANK MY TEAM. WE ALL SPENT COUNTLESS HOURS REVIEWING THIS ORDINANCE TO MAKE SURE THAT IT IS INDEED RACE AND GENDER NEUTRAL AND SATISFIES THESE MANY, MANY DIRECTIVES THAT WERE DIRECTED TO US. SO WE ARE VERY CONFIDENT, AND WE WOULD LIKE TO RENAME THE DEPARTMENT TO STRATEGIC BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS WHAT WE DO. WE WILL CONTINUE TO LOOK FOR OPPORTUNITIES FOR ESPECIALLY OUR SMALL LOCAL BUSINESS COMMUNITY AND TO INCLUDE ALL ETHNIC GROUPS, BUT PRIMARILY THE FOCUS WILL BE ON SMALL LOCAL BUSINESSES. I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE HAVE NO DOUBT THAT YOU WILL CONTINUE TO CARRY OUT THE VALUES OF THE CITY OF TAMPA. >> THANK YOU. >>CARL BRODY: I'D LIKE TO GO THROUGH SOME OF THE CHANGES JUST TO ILLUSTRATE HOW WE ARE MAKING THE BEST OUT OF WHAT WE CAN -- >>ALAN CLENDENIN: DO YOU NEED TO FOR THE RECORD? >>CARL BRODY: NO, I DON'T NEED IT FOR THE RECORD. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I THINK WE'RE GOOD. WE GOT ALL THE BACKGROUND. >>CARL BRODY: YOU'VE BEEN BRIEFED. >>LYNN HURTAK: ARE THERE ANY MUNICIPALITIES IN THIS STATE THAT ARE FIGHTING THIS? >>CARL BRODY: I'M NOT AWARE OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. I HEARD FROM OTHER MUNICIPALITIES AND TALKED TO SEVERAL DIFFERENT LEGAL OFFICES ACROSS THE STATE, MOST OF THEM ARE DOING AWAY WITH THEIR PROGRAMS OR SUSPENDING THEM COMPLETELY UNTIL THEY GET A FINAL DETERMINATION, WHICH IS PROBABLY NOT GOING TO HAPPEN FOR ANOTHER THREE YEARS. SO MOST OF THEM ARE DOING AWAY WITH IT. FROM THE FEEDBACK I'VE GOTTEN, WE'RE MORE AGGRESSIVE IN TERMS OF TRYING TO MAINTAIN OUR PROGRAM TO THE EXTENT THAT WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO TRY TO PROVIDE WHAT THE INTENT OF IT IS WITHOUT VIOLATING LAW. >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG. >>NAYA YOUNG: I JUST WANT TO SAY I APPRECIATE YOU ALL FOR DOING THE WORK. I KNOW WE'VE MET A FEW TIMES. KIND OF WENT OVER EVERYTHING. I THINK JUST ME PERSONALLY, I THINK IT'S A SHAME THAT WE EVEN HAVE TO DO THIS. I KNOW THAT YOU ALL PUT A LOT OF WORK INTO JUST MAKING SURE WE CONTINUE TO HAVE THE PROGRAM. BUT IT'S NO SECRET WHAT IS HAPPENING. I THINK IT'S RIDICULOUS. BUT I APPRECIATE YOU ALL FOR STILL MAKING SURE THAT OUR SMALL AND LOCAL BUSINESSES ARE GOING TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITIES TO PARTICIPATE IN BUSINESS THAT COMES INTO THE CITY, AND I WOULD HOPE THAT AS A CITY, EVEN THOUGH WE CANNOT DIRECT TO MINORITY OR WOMEN OWNED BUSINESSES THAT WE WILL MAKE SURE WE DO OUR JOB BECAUSE WE LIVE IN THE CITY THAT IS EXTREMELY DIVERSE, AND IT WOULD BE, I THINK, A CRIME TO NOT ACKNOWLEDGE THAT. I APPRECIATE YOU ALL FOR THE WORK THAT YOU'VE DONE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE'RE STILL TAMPA. >> LASTLY, IF I MAY THANK SOME AMAZING COLLEAGUES, TWO ESPECIALLY, MR. RICHARD MUTTERBACK OF CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION AND DEANNA FAGGART OF THE PURCHASING DEPARTMENT. THEY WERE AMAZING. SO THANK YOU. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN VIERA FOLLOWED BY CARLSON. >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I'LL ECHO WHAT COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG SAID. FIRST OFF, BEFORE I MAKE VERY BRIEF REMARKS ON THIS BECAUSE I TALKED TO YOU ALL ABOUT MY THOUGHTS. I WANT TO SAY ALL OF YOU THAT STOOD UP, GOD BLESS YOU GUYS, YOU GUYS ARE FIGHTING A GOOD FIGHT. WE'RE MAKING THE BEST OF WHAT WE CAN AND I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE HOW UP IS DOWN AND DOWN IS UP AND THESE NEW RULES THAT WE'RE LIVING UNDER, RIGHT, THAT MAKE NO SENSE. THEY DEFY MORAL GRAVITY AND DEFY OUR HISTORY. IF YOU LOOK AT CURSORY 30 SECONDS, RIGHT, JUST BASIC REVIEW OF HISTORY FROM 1619 TO THE START OF OUR COUNTRY, 150 YEARS OF SLAVERY. START OF A COUNTRY TO CIVIL WAR, 90 YEARS OF SLAVERY. BEGINNING OF CIVIL WAR, 50% OF FLORIDA ENSLAVED. 11 YEARS OF RECONSTRUCTION. JIM CROW, 6 MILLION AFRICAN AMERICANS FLED THE SOUTH TO GO UP NORTH IN THE GREAT MIGRATION. I WAS BORN 11 YEARS AFTER THE FORMAL END OF JIM CROW. WE'RE TOLD THAT WE CAN'T TALK ABOUT THE EFFECTS OF THE BRUTAL HISTORY OF TORTURE AND IMMORALITY HAS ON PEOPLE TODAY. WE CAN TALK ABOUT PRESENT EFFECTS. GOVERNMENT CAN TAKE ACTION. THE 14th AMENDMENT IS BEING USED TO TURN ITSELF ON ITS HEAD. MAN, THAT'S CRAZY. I UNDERSTAND. I'M GOING TO VOTE FOR THIS BECAUSE WE HAVE TO DO WHAT WE HAVE TO DO. I THINK WE HAVE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE UPSIDE DOWN GRAVITY THAT WE'RE LIVING IN IN THIS COUNTRY AND HOW SINCE JANUARY OF 2025, THINGS THAT PEOPLE USED TO WHISPER AND TALK IN HUSHED CORNERS THEY ARE YELLING, OFTEN COMING FROM 1600 PENNSYLVANIA AVENUE. WE HAVE TO STAND UP TO IT BECAUSE IT IS IMMORAL. I'LL VOTE FOR THIS BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GOING TO GIVE UP HIGHWAY MONEY AND ALL THAT KIND OF GOOD STUFF. WE OUGHT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE IMMORAL UNIVERSE THAT WE'RE LIVING IN WHICH IS GOING TO BE TIME LIMITED, GOD WILLING. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: FILE NUMBER 105, FILE 2026-8, CHAPTER 26.5, ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING AND CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, DELETING IN ITS ENTIRETY THE CITY OF TAMPA CODE OF ORDINANCES ARTICLES 1, 2, 3 OF CHAPTER 26.5, EQUAL BUSINESS OPPORTUNITY PROGRAM ADOPTED REVISED ARTICLES ONE, TWO, AND THREE OF CHAPTER 26.5, RENAMING EQUAL BUSINESS OPPORTUNITY TO STRATEGIC BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. I WANT TO THANK ALL OF YOU HERE AND THOSE WHO WORK BEHIND THE SCENES TO MAKE AMERICA BEAUTIFUL. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA. SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO. COUNCILMAN CARLSON. >>BILL CARLSON: TO TALK PHILOSOPHICALLY FOR A SECOND, I KNOW THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE FRUSTRATED THAT WOULD LOOK AT CHANGING THIS AT ALL. AS ATTORNEYS SAID, WE PUSHED BACK IN MANY DIFFERENT WAYS. UNFORTUNATELY WE'RE A SUBSET OF THE STATE AND FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND WE HAVE TO DO WHAT THEY SAY. IF YOU WANT TO HELP US CHANGE THAT, GET DIFFERENT PEOPLE ELECTED IN THOSE SEATS SO WE CAN CHANGE THAT. ONE OPPORTUNITY I THINK IS THAT WHEN I TALK TO SMALL BUSINESSES OR MINORITY WOMEN-OWNED BUSINESSES, WHAT THEY WANT MOST OF ALL IS A SEAT AT THE TABLE. TOO OFTEN CITIES AND TAMPA IN PARTICULAR, HAS HAD SILOS, IF YOU ARE NOT A PART OF THE CLIQUE, YOU CAN'T GET IN. STILL GROUPS IN TAMPA WHERE YOU HAVE TO PAY $50,000 TO JOIN BUT YOU HAVE TO BE ASKED TO JOIN AND YOU CAN'T JOIN OTHERWISE. IF THE BIG BUSINESSES THAT COULD SUPPORT THESE BUSINESSES HAVE A WALL AROUND THEM, THEN IT'S NOT POSSIBLE FOR EVERYBODY TO PARTICIPATE. WE NEED MORE CROSS-POLLINATION OF IDEAS, AND WHY IS THIS IMPORTANT? IT'S NOT A PHILOSOPHICAL ISSUE. IT'S AN ECONOMIC ISSUE. IF THE BEST WAY TO BUILD INTERGENERATIONAL WEALTH IS BY PEOPLE BUILDING UP THEIR OWN BUSINESSES OR WORKING IN ENTREPRENEURIAL BUSINESSES AND GETTING SHARES. WHAT MADE AMERICA GREAT IS THE ENTREPRENEURS THAT HAVE DRIVEN OUR ECONOMY AND THE MAJORITY OF JOBS IN OUR COUNTRY ARE BY SMALL BUSINESSES. WE NEED TO DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO GROW THEM. BUT AN EXAMPLE, THERE ARE ALREADY MANY, IF YOU TAKE BLACK-OWNED BUSINESSES, FOR EXAMPLE, THE CDC, THE BLACK CHAMBER, TOBA, A BUNCH OF OTHER GROUPS THAT HAVE ACCESS TO BLACK-OWNED BUSINESSES AND GROUPS OF WOMEN-OWNED BUSINESSES AND HISPANIC OWNED BUSINESSES AND OTHERS. JUST AS YOU ALL WOULD REACH OUT TO THE SOUTH TAMPA CHAMBER, REACH OUT TO THE BLACK CHAMBER. REACH OUT TO TOBA. REACH OUT TO ALL THE GROUPS. THEY HAVE GROUPS OF BUSINESS PEOPLE WHO ARE HUNGRY TO BUILD BUSINESS. I JUST HAVE TO SAY I'M SO IMPRESSED AND INSPIRED BY ENTREPRENEURS. I WAS WITH A GROUP OF BLACK-OWNED BUSINESS LEADERS RECENTLY. ONE OF THE START-UP BUSINESSES THAT YOU DO WHEN YOU'RE JUST STARTING OUT IS MAYBE DOING JANITORIAL SERVICES. THERE WAS A LADY IN THE ROOM WHO HAD DONE SUCH A GOOD JOB GETTING REFERRALS THAT SHE HAS NOW STARTED A REFERRAL SERVICE TO FEED OTHER JANITORIAL BUSINESSES. IN THE ROOM, THERE WERE THREE WHO WERE GETTING FED BY HER. THE THING TO ME, THE HUMAN MIND, THE AMERICAN MIND, THE WAY WE ARE RAISED, CREATES THIS CREATIVITY AND DRIVE TO SUCCEED. AND PEOPLE HAVE GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY OF HAVING THE RIGHT DOORS OPEN, NOT GIVING SPECIAL TREATMENT BUT HAVING THE RIGHT DOORS OPEN. PEOPLE CAN INNOVATE AND EVERYBODY HAS A CHANCE TO SUCCEED AND MAKE THIS A GREAT COUNTRY. THANK YOU ALL FOR CARRYING THIS FORWARD AND LET US KNOW IF WE CAN HELP CREATE A SEAT AT THE TABLE FOR EVERYONE. >> THANK YOU. WE'RE ALSO MISSING JOSE VALDEZ. TO YOUR POINT, HE'S CONDUCTING SHELTERED MARKET COMMITTEE MEETINGS AND GOAL SETTING COMMITTEE MEETINGS, WHICH WE INVITE TO THE PUBLIC. WE SEND OUT THAT INVITATION THROUGH THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE AND ALL OF THE PUBLIC IS INVITED TO ATTEND. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. OPPOSED? >>LYNN HURTAK: NAY. I CAN'T DO IT. >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH HURTAK VOTING NO. SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON JUNE 4, 2026 AT 10:00 A.M. IN CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS, 315 EAST KENNEDY BOULEVARD, THIRD FLOOR, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33602. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU. WE ARE NOW AT ITEM 39, PULLED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA. >>LYNN HURTAK: YES. SO I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THIS. THIS IS $150,000 FINANCIAL RESOLUTION TO GO TO THE HANNA CITY CENTER. I MEAN, WE'VE GIVEN HANNA $120 MILLION. IN ALL OF THIS, WE SHOULD HAVE HAD ENOUGH MONEY TO BUILD OUT EVERYTHING. CAN YOU TALK TO US ABOUT WHY WE NEED 150 MORE MILLION DOLLARS FOR A BRAND-NEW BUILDING? NO, 150. BECAUSE THEY ASKED FOR 50 AND NOW THEY ARE ASKING FOR A HUNDRED MORE. >>MICHAEL PERRY: YOU ARE CORRECT. IN THE 2026 BUDGET, BRENDA ASKED FOR $50,000 TO BUILD OUT THE SHELL FOR WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT. I'M GOING TO LET HER TALK ABOUT THE PROGRAMMATIC OUTCOMES. SHE WENT AND GOT HER BIDS, AND NOW THE COST IS $150,000. THERE'S $1.3 MILLION IN THE AVAILABLE BALANCE. THE PROJECT, HOWEVER, THAT MONEY IS BEING RESERVED FOR THE BUILD-OUT OF THE CAFE. AND UNTIL WE GO AHEAD AND FIGURE OUT WHAT WE'LL DO WITH THE CAFE, WE WANT TO KEEP THE FUNDS RESTRICTED, AND THAT'S WHY -- HANNA PROVIDE SUPPLEMENTAL FUNDING FOR BRENDA'S PROJECT. >>LYNN HURTAK: WE DO NOT HAVE A PLAN FOR THAT CAFE YET. >>MICHAEL PERRY: I THINK THEY ARE WORKING ON IT. IN DAY-TO-DAY OPERATIONS, DO YOU KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING TO THE CAFE? >> THEY ARE WORKING ON A PLAN. >>LYNN HURTAK: I WOULD REALLY RATHER TAKE THIS MONEY FROM THAT PLAN BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN HEARING THIS SINCE BEFORE HANNA GOT STARTED. I'M JUST -- I'M SURPRISED THAT WE DON'T HAVE A BUILD-OUT FOR A FACILITY THAT WE WERE TOLD WAS GOING TO BE COMPLETED WITH THE OVER 140 -- WHAT ARE WE UP TO NOW? MILLION DOLLARS FOR THIS BUILDING. >>MICHAEL PERRY: IT'S ABOUT 120, MA'AM. >>BILL CARLSON: ABOUT 240 WHEN YOU INCLUDE O & M AND INTEREST OVER 30 YEARS. >>LYNN HURTAK: THE POINT BEING IF WE HAVE THE $1.3 MILLION FOR THE CAFE WE KEEP HEARING ABOUT OVER AND OVER AGAIN, UNTIL WE ACTUALLY DO THAT, THE BEST THING TO DO IS USE THAT MONEY. SO THAT'S GOING TO BE MY REQUEST IS THAT WE TAKE THAT MONEY FROM THE 1.3 MILLION THAT WE'VE ALREADY ALLOCATED TO THIS PROJECT TO FINISH ANYTHING WE NEED TO FINISH. I THINK IT'S A GREAT PROGRAM. I THINK WE NEED IT. I THINK WE NEED TO USE THE MONEY WE ALREADY HAVE TO DO THAT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN CARLSON. >>BILL CARLSON: YEAH, IN THE VERY BEGINNING, CITY COUNCIL REQUESTED THAT THERE BE COWORK SPACE THERE, SO WE CAN MOBILIZE THAT. THEN THE ADMINISTRATION, BECAUSE THEY DON'T LIKE TO LISTEN TO CITY COUNCIL'S IDEA SAID WE'LL MAKE A CAFE ABOUT IT OR WHATEVER. BUT THIS PROCESS, THIS PROCESS HAS GONE WAY OVER -- THE BUILDING WENT WAY OVER BUDGET. IT WAS WAY BEYOND THE ORIGINAL SPECS. IT'S NOT BEING MANAGED CORRECTLY AT 40% OR WHATEVER IS EMPTY. AND THE STAFF DOESN'T EVEN KNOW WHAT IT MEANS TO SUBLEASE AND HASN'T HAD ANY PLAN FOR SUBLEASING. THAT REALLY CONCERNS ME. THE OTHER THING IS, I'VE ASKED SEVERAL TIMES AND I THINK WE AS COUNCIL VOTED SEVERAL TIMES TO FIND OUT WHAT THE CURRENT COMMERCIAL VALUATION OF IT IS BECAUSE WE NEED THAT FOR INSURANCE PURPOSES. I'M PRETTY CERTAIN IT'S NOT CLOSE TO WHAT IT IS. I THINK WHAT WE'LL NEED TO DO IS PUT THIS BUILDING ON THE MARKET AND LET THE MARKET DECIDE HOW MUCH IT'S REALLY WORTH. IF WE ARE UPSIDE DOWN, WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT MEANS. IT WAS A HORRIBLE BUSINESS DECISION TO TAKE. CONTRAST WHAT THEY DID AT THE AIRPORT. PARTNER WITH THE PRIVATE SECTOR, BUILD A BUILDING, AND THEY HAD AN OPTION TO BUY IT. THE BUILDING WENT WAY UP BEYOND THE ORIGINAL ESTIMATION OF WHAT IT MIGHT BE WORTH AND PROFITABLE. THEY USED THE OPTION TO BUY IT BACK TO MAKE A PROFIT. LOOK AT WHAT THE COUNTY DID WITH COUNTY CENTER IN BUYING THEIR BUILDING. THIS BUILDING WAS A COMPLETE WASTE OF MONEY. IT WAS A BAD DECISION. THE BUILDING ACROSS THE STREET SOLD FOR LESS THAN THIS BUILDING COST TO BUILD DURING THE PROCESS THAT THIS WAS BEING PLANNED. AND WE NEED PROFESSIONALISM IN THE CITY, AND WE NEED THIS ADMINISTRATION TO START BEING RESPONSIBLE TO TAXPAYERS. THANK YOU. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN MIRANDA. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO, I'M SORRY. >>LYNN HURTAK: MY MOTION IS GOING TO BE TO RETURN THIS WITH THE MONEY COMING OUT OF THAT 1.3 FOR THE CAFE. THIS IS A PROJECT THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN. WE AGREE ON THAT, BUT SINCE WE KEEP HEARING ABOUT SOMETHING THAT HAS NOT HAPPENED YET, AND IF THAT CAFE COMES BACK, WE CAN FIND OTHER FUNDING, BUT RIGHT NOW, I WANT A RESOLUTION, A FINANCIAL RESOLUTION TO COME BACK USING THE 1.3 TO FUND THIS PROGRAM. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, MIDYEAR BUDGETS HAVE TO ORIGINATE FROM THE ADMINISTRATION, OUR CHOICE WOULD BE TO VOTE THIS DOWN WITH THE ADVICE TO COME BACK. >>LYNN HURTAK: I'M SIMPLY ASKING FOR THEM TO LOOK AT IT AND FOR THE POSSIBILITY OF COMING BACK. WHEN THEY COME BACK, IF THEY CAN'T DO IT, THEY'LL LET US KNOW. OR IF IT'S NOT POSSIBLE, YOU CAN REACH OUT TO MY OFFICE. MY MOTION IS TO BRING IT BACK WITH THE MONEY COMING FROM -- >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION TO CONTINUE THIS ITEM. >>LYNN HURTAK: YES. >>MARTIN SHELBY: IT IS A MOTION TO CONTINUE WITH THE DIRECTION TO AMEND THE SOURCE OF THE FUNDING. >>LYNN HURTAK: YES. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: DO YOU HAVE A DATE? >>LYNN HURTAK: OUR NEXT AVAILABLE REALLY IS JUNE 4. JUNE 4 IS THE NEXT ONE. IT STILL WOULD BE -- I TOOK IT OFF THE CONSENT AGENDA. IT COULD STILL BE A CONSENT ITEM. I JUST DISAGREE WITH HOW THIS IS FUNDED. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND TO CONTINUE ITEM 39 TO JUNE 4 WITH THE ADVICE TO THE ADMINISTRATION TO REAPPROPRIATE THE MONEY OUT OF THE EXISTING FUNDS SET ASIDE FROM HANNA AS OPPOSED TO GENERAL FUND MONEY. IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? >> BRENDA McKENZIE, WORKFORCE PARTNERSHIPS WITH THE CITY. I WANT TO MAKE SURE COUNCIL WAS AWARE THERE ARE SOME TIME SENSITIVITIES. THIS IS A COWORKING SPACE FOR NONPROFIT UNITS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET OFF THE GROUND TO SUPPLEMENT OUR YOUNG PEOPLE AND GETTING THEM CONNECTED TO CAREERS. WE'RE HOPING THAT THIS WILL BE OPEN IN THE FALL. WE DO HAVE SOME TIME CONSTRAINTS TO GET THIS CONTRACTED AND BUILT OUT IN TIME. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IS THERE AN EARLIER DATE? >>LYNN HURTAK: NO. BECAUSE THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING, THEY HAVE TO HAVE IT IN BY TOMORROW. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ARE YOU ABLE TO DO AN APPROPRIATION CHANGE BETWEEN NOW AND TOMORROW FOR THIS RESOLUTION? >>MICHAEL PERRY: IF WE CAN MAKE THE MAY 21st MEETING, WE'LL TRY FOR IT. >>LYNN HURTAK: IF YOU CAN MAKE MAY 21st, IF NOT, JUNE 4. IT IS A VERY IMPORTANT THING. WE DON'T WANT TO STOP IT. WE NEED THAT MONEY ELSEWHERE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: UNDERSTANDING THE TIME PARAMETERS AND THE STAFF WILL DO THIS FOR SUBMISSION TOMORROW. AMENDMENT IS MAY 21st TO BRING THIS BACK, CONTINUATION OF ITEM 39 TO MAY 21st. WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, AYE. OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT. >>MARTIN SHELBY: IS THAT THE MOTION TO AMEND? >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IT WAS -- >>LYNN HURTAK: I ACCEPTED THE AMENDMENT. >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT'S FINE. THANK YOU. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NOW WE ARE MOVING TO STAFF REPORTS. 113. >>LUIS VIERA: I HAD WANTED TO BRIEF COUNCIL ON THIS. LET ME, IF I MAY, PASS OUT DOCUMENTS FOR YOU ALL. >>MARTIN SHELBY: DO YOU HAVE ENOUGH FOR THE CLERK AND ME? >>LUIS VIERA: GIVE IT WHENEVER YOU ARE DONE. ALL GOOD. I ASKED MR. BRODY DID IT NEED TO COME HERE FOR THIS. I WANTED TO BRIEF COUNCIL ON WHAT I AM TRYING TO DO WITH THIS, WHICH IS MY PROPOSAL THAT I STARTED TALKING ABOUT WITH LOCAL 754 AND THE POLICE BENEVOLENT ASSOCIATION OF TAMPA WAS TO HAVE A MANDATORY REVIEW FOR PUBLIC SAFETY MASTER PLAN. WE WOULD EVENTUALLY COME DOWN WITH THE ADVICE OF CHIEF TRIPP I BELIEVE IT WAS IN A MEETING WISELY TO LOOKING AT DOING IT EVERY THREE YEARS. EVERY YEAR WOULD BE VERY ONEROUS AND NOT GETTING ANYTHING REALLY, REALLY DONE. I DON'T CARE IF WE DO IT VIA CHARTER AMENDMENT OR ORDINANCE OR WHATEVER, SO LONG AS IT GETS DONE. WE'RE WORKING ON SOMETHING THAT I FEEL VERY, VERY STRONGLY ABOUT THAT I KNOW THAT THIS COUNCIL FEELS VERY STRONGLY ABOUT. THE MAIN ISSUE IS ONE OF TRANSPARENCY, WHICH IS THAT CITIZENS IN TAMPA AND SIMILARLY SITUATED CITIES, THEY SHOULD BE DOING THIS ALL ACROSS THE STATE OF FLORIDA, SHOULD HAVE REVIEWS OF WHAT PUBLIC SAFETY DEFICITS ARE WITH REGARDS TO COPS ON THE STREETS, NUMBER OF FIREFIGHTERS, INFRASTRUCTURE, NEW FIRE STATIONS, HOW FIRE STATIONS ARE DOING AND HOW MUCH IT WOULD COST TO REMEDY THAT. PEOPLE SHOULD KNOW THAT WHILE WE MAKE DECISIONS ON DIFFERENT THINGS INVOLVING OTHER AREAS OF OUR BUDGET. I'LL BE TALKING ABOUT DURING MOTION TIME, A BIG ISSUE WITH NEW TAMPA AND 33647, SOMETHING THAT FOLKS THERE ARE VERY ACUTELY AWARE OF. SO REALLY IT'S ONE OF ACCOUNTABILITY FOR EVERYBODY. FOR ALL SEVEN OF US, FOR THE EXECUTIVE, FOR EVERYBODY. I COULD GO OVER THE HISTORY OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY MASTER PLAN. I THINK I FIRST PROPOSED THAT IN 2020. THEN THE ADMINISTRATION I THINK FUNDED IT JUST UNDER THE THRESHOLD THAT CITY COUNCIL WOULD NEED TO APPROVE IT. WE FOUND OUT ABOUT IT I THINK IN 2023. WE FUNDED ANOTHER $50,000 FOR AN UPDATED ONE WHICH I DON'T BELIEVE WAS DONE. I'M FRANKLY TAKING THIS ROUTE SO WE COULD HAVE ONE DONE MANDATORY. WHAT THIS COMPROMISE WOULD DO, COUNCIL, THE MAYOR WOULD DO AN EXECUTIVE ORDER THAT WOULD COME FROM THE MAYOR'S OFFICE, OBVIOUSLY, DETAILING A MANDATORY THREE-YEAR PUBLIC SAFETY MASTER PLAN. WE'RE GOING RIGHT NOW WITH MYSELF, THE TWO PUBLIC SAFETY UNIONS, POLICE AND FIRE AND THE MAYOR'S OFFICE ON NEGOTIATED LANGUAGE FOR THAT. CITY COUNCIL WOULD CONCURRENTLY PASS WITH THAT AN ORDINANCE MEATING THAT ANY -- MANDATING THAT ANY MODIFICATION BY ANY FUTURE MAYOR OF ANY KIND TO THIS EXECUTIVE ORDER WOULD REQUIRE NOTICE, PROPER NOTICE. GOING TO WHAT NOTICE IS ON COUNCIL AND ALSO PASS A RESOLUTION OF THAT. RIGHT NOW WE'RE STILL NEGOTIATING WHAT THE EXECUTIVE ORDER WOULD SAY. 754 HAS GIVEN THEIR SUGGESTIONS. MY MOTION IS, AND I THINK I HAD JUNE 17 PICKED OUT, WHICH I THINK IS OPEN. I SPOKE WITH MR. CARL BRODY DOING A GREAT JOB ON THIS -- SORRY, JUNE 18, CONTINUE THIS TO JUNE 18 AND WE CAN INVITE MR. BRODY TO COME. WE CAN INVITE TO THE EXTENT THAT THEY WISH TO COME, POLICE, FIRE, AS WELL AS THE ASSOCIATED UNIONS TO TALK ABOUT THE PROGRESS ON THIS. I FEEL VERY CONFIDENT THAT BY THIS TIME WE CAN GET LANGUAGE. THAT IS THE GIST. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION TO CONTINUE ITEM 114 TO JUNE 18. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON. >>BILL CARLSON: MY ONLY REQUEST IS THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT IT BEING EXECUTIVE ORDER WITH A RESOLUTION. I THINK IT SHOULD BE AN ORDINANCE THAT I THINK COUNCIL DOCUMENTS SHOULD SUPERSEDE THE EXECUTIVE ORDER AND THE EXECUTIVE ORDER COULD CONFIRM IT. SOMETIMES WE CODIFY AN EXECUTIVE ORDER. BUT I THINK IT OUGHT TO ORIGINATE AT CITY COUNCIL BECAUSE THEN IT LOOKS MORE REPRESENTATIVE. IT DOESN'T LOOK POLITICAL. >>LUIS VIERA: I AGREE. MY BIG THING IS, I WANT TO GET IT DONE. I HEAR YOU ON YOUR SENTIMENTS ON PROCEDURAL ISSUES, ET CETERA. WE ARE GOING TO PASS AN ORDINANCE FOR IT. AGAIN, THIS IS SOMETHING I'M TRYING TO DO IN A COLLABORATIVE WAY. I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THE SENTIMENTS, VERY SYMPATHETIC. MY LARGER THING IS GET THIS DONE. I HAVE SIX MONTHS. BEEN TRYING TO GET THE DAMN THING PASSED FOR SIX YEARS ONE WAY OR ANOTHER. THIS IS A DIFFERENT PATH TO MAKE SURE IT GETS DONE. FRANKLY IT SHOULD BE DONE IN EVERY CITY IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA, OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND PEOPLE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. >>LYNN HURTAK: THINK ABOUT THIS BEFORE YOU GO TO TALLAHASSEE, THIS WILL BE MY CONCERN, AND I WANT YOU TO REALLY CONSIDER IT. THIS IS RIGHT NOW AN UNFUNDED MANDATE. TO REALLY MAKE IT FRUITFUL YOU GOTTA HAVE SOME FUNDS. >>LUIS VIERA: ABSOLUTELY. SENSITIVE TO THAT. >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT NEEDS TO BE SOMEWHERE IN THIS LANGUAGE ABOUT DEDICATED FUNDING, WHATEVER THAT FUNDING MIGHT BE. DON'T YOU DARE GO UP TO TALLAHASSEE MAKING A BUNCH OF UNFUNDED MANDATE LAWS. YOU WILL FIT RIGHT IN. WE NEED CHANGE. YEAH, THAT'S MY BIG CONCERN. WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE TO YOU? OBVIOUSLY, THE FIRST ONE WILL BE A BIG LIFT, BUT IDEALLY, IF YOU ARE DOING THESE OVER TIME, THE LIFT WILL BE MUCH SMALLER, BUT WE STILL WANT TO MAKE SURE, SORT OF LIKE WHEN WE DID THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION AND WE MADE SURE WE PUT FUNDING IN THERE FOR IT, I WANT YOU TO THINK ABOUT IT. I SUPPORT THIS, BUT I REALLY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT A FUTURE ADMINISTRATION CAN'T SAY, WELL, WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO DO THIS. >>LUIS VIERA: MAY I RESPOND TO THAT BRIEFLY? THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. REMEMBER, WE DID THE PARKS AND THIS IS BEFORE YOU GOT ON, COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, WE DID THE PARKS MASTER PLAN. IT IS A VISION OF WHAT EACH DISTRICT NEEDS TO HAVE EQUITY ON PARKS. THIS WOULD BE A VISION OR A PATHWAY ON WHAT WE NEED TO HAVE EQUITY ON PUBLIC SAFETY. IT'S NOT A MANDATE TO SPEND IT. I SAY THAT SO WE CAN HAVE TRANSPARENCY SO THAT THE PUBLIC CAN KNOW WHAT WE'RE MISSING. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE'RE KIND OF SPIRALING. >>LYNN HURTAK: BUT THE MANDATE -- >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE'RE SPIRALING INTO THE ISSUES. THIS IS ABOUT CONTINUING THE ITEM TO JUNE 18. IT'S ALREADY 4:00 AND WE HAVE A COUPLE OF ITEMS IN FRONT OF US. >>LYNN HURTAK: I'M NOT ALLOWED TO TALK TO HIM. I'M HEARING HIM SAY IT IS A MANDATE TO DO THE WORK. I'M SAYING A MANDATE TO PAY FOR THE PLAN. I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT DOING THE WORK WHICH IS IMPORTANT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: GUESS WHO HOLDS THAT BUDGET SHORTLY. VERY GOOD. I HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND TO CONTINUE THIS TO JUNE 18. ALL IN FAVOR, AYE. OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT. ITEM 115. CAN WE OPEN 115 AND 116 TOGETHER? LET'S DO BOTH TOGETHER. ACTION PLAN AND THE BUDGET. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL. GERI LOPEZ, DEPUTY ADMINISTRATOR FOR DEVELOPMENT AND ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY. WE ARE REALLY EXCITED TO BE HERE TODAY TO PRESENT A BRIEF SUMMARY OF OUR FINAL REPORT FOR THE SULPHUR SPRINGS NEIGHBORHOOD ACTION PLAN. WE BEGAN THIS PROCESS IN DECEMBER OF '24 AND OUR INTERNAL WORKING GROUPS, ALL OF OUR DEPARTMENTS, ALONG WITH THE COMMUNITY WITH A LOT OF NEIGHBORHOOD OUTREACH HAVE PUT A LOT OF WORK INTO THIS. SO I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE LAUREN VASQUEZ FROM OUR CITY PLANNING DEPARTMENT WHO HAS BEEN THE LEAD ON THIS EFFORT TO PRESENT THE PLAN. >> THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL. ALL RIGHT. LAUREN VASQUEZ, CITY PLANNING DEPARTMENT. I'M JUST GOING TO QUICKLY, THE FIRST PRESENTATION IS ON THE FINAL PLAN. THIS ONE WILL GO BY QUICK. OUR NEXT PRESENTATION IS GOING TO BE ON THAT CATALYTIC PROJECT IDENTIFICATION. SO LIKE I SAID, THIS PRESENTATION IS ON PRESENTING THE FINAL PLAN WHICH CAN BE FOUND ON OUR PROJECT WEBSITE, TAMPA.GOV/SULPHUR SPRINGS. WE HAVE PRESENTED TO YOU ON THIS PLAN TWICE BEFORE. THE LAST TIME IN OCTOBER, SO THIS SLIDE MAY LOOK FAMILIAR TO YOU. WE BEGAN THIS PROJECT IN DECEMBER OF 2024, AND WE WRAPPED IT UP IN FEBRUARY OF THIS YEAR. AND WHAT THIS PRESENTATION IS GOING TO FOCUS ON IS OUR PHASE THREE ENGAGEMENT AND THOSE RESULTS AS WELL AS THE FORMAT AND RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE FINAL PLAN. AS WE DID FOR THE LAST -- THE FIRST TWO PHASES OF THE PLAN, PHASE THREE ALSO HAD AN ONLINE SURVEY. THIS ONLINE SURVEY WAS VERY BRIEF. IT WAS ONLY FIVE QUESTIONS. WE REALLY WANTED TO KEEP IT FOCUSED ON VALIDATING THAT WE WERE REFLECTING RECOMMENDATIONS THAT REFLECTED WHAT THE COMMUNITY HAD TOLD US AND ALSO LOOKING FORWARD TO IMPLEMENTATION NEXT STEPS. SO AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE IS A SAMPLING OF RESULTS ON THE SLIDE. WE ASKED PEOPLE TO INDICATE WHICH OF THE PRIORITY ACTION AREAS WERE IMPORTANT TO THEM AND ALSO HOW THEY WANTED TO GET INVOLVED IN THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE PLAN. AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE WAS BROAD SUPPORT FOR THE RECOMMENDATIONS, AND THERE WAS A LOT OF VARIETY AND INTEREST IN GETTING INVOLVED IN THOSE NEXT STEPS. SO THAT FELT VALIDATING FOR US BEING ABLE TO REFLECT WHAT WE WERE HEARING. WE ALSO WENT AHEAD AND ALSO HOSTED A PHASE THREE WORKSHOP AS WELL. THIS, AGAIN, FOCUSED ON GETTING FEEDBACK ON THOSE FINAL RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE PLAN. ACTUALLY, AT THIS MEETING, I THINK ONE OF THE KEY PARTS OF IT WAS THAT WE WERE ABLE TO DO ALMOST AN HOUR OF Q & A WITH THE ATTENDEES, WHICH I FELT WAS VERY HELPFUL TO ESTABLISH A DIALOGUE BETWEEN US AND THE RESIDENTS TO HEAR THEIR FEEDBACK VERY CLEARLY AND FOR STAFF TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE CLARITY AND JUST INFORMATION ON HOW WE'RE GOING TO BE MOVING THIS PLAN FORWARD. SO THE REPORT IS ORGANIZED INTO FOUR SECTIONS. THE FIRST SECTION REALLY BEING THAT EXISTING CONDITIONS AND LITERATURE REVIEW. THE SECOND SECTION BEING THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT RESULTS AND HOW WE FORMED THE VISION AND THE PRINCIPLES OF HOW THE PLAN WAS PUT TOGETHER. AND THEN THE BULK OF THE PLAN IS THE PLAYBOOK ACTION AREAS. THOSE ARE THE TOP TEN PRIORITY AREAS WE HEARD AS PART OF THE PLAN. THAT'S WHERE ALL OF OUR RECOMMENDATIONS ARE. AND THEN CERTAINLY, LAST BUT NOT LEAST, ARE THE COMMUNITY-LED ACTIONS. WE WANTED THIS TO BE A GUIDE BOOK NOT ONLY FOR WHAT THE CITY IS DOING MOVING FORWARD IN SULPHUR SPRINGS BUT ALSO A GUIDE BOOK THAT THE COMMUNITY COULD USE TO MOVE FORWARD AND DO SOME COMMUNITY-LED CHANGE. SO, AGAIN, THE SLIDE SHOULD LOOK FAMILIAR TO YOU. THIS WAS PRESENTED IN OCTOBER LAST YEAR WHEN WE DID OUR PHASE TWO PRESENTATION. THIS HIGHLIGHTS THE FIRST FIVE OF THOSE PRIORITY ACTION AREAS. THE FIRST ONE BEING ABOUT PROVIDING SUPPORT FOR THOSE COMMUNITY LED RECOMMENDATIONS, CREATING PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS TO INCREASE OUR CAPACITY OF WHAT WE'RE ABLE TO DO IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, PROVIDING MORE OPPORTUNITIES FOR AFFORDABLE RENTER AND OWNERSHIP OPPORTUNITIES, REDEVELOPING VACANT AND DISTRESSED AREAS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AS IDENTIFIED AS ONE OF THE TOP PRIORITIES BY THE RESIDENTS AND, OF COURSE, ENSURING THAT THERE IS ACCESS TO FRESH FOOD, WHICH CURRENTLY IS AN ISSUE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. ON THE SECOND SLIDE, THIS IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE SHOWED YOU IN OCTOBER. WE GOT SOME CLEAR FEEDBACK FROM COUNCIL THAT YOU ALL FELT THAT WE SHOULD REALLY BE HIGHLIGHTING MORE ECONOMIC AND WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITIES. AT THAT TIME, THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS WERE IN THE PLAN. THERE WAS ACTUALLY A FIFTH SECTION OF THE PLAN JUST CALLED "OTHER RECOMMENDATIONS." BUT UPON FURTHER REFLECTION AND HEARING COUNCIL FEEDBACK AND HEARING COMMUNITY FEEDBACK, WE FELT THAT IT WAS BETTER FOR US TO BE MORE CLEAR AND EFFICIENT IN WHAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING. SO WHAT WE DID AS OPPOSED TO HAVING THOSE OTHER RECOMMENDATIONS, WE LOOKED AT WHERE CAN WE BE MORE CONCISE AND CLEAR WITH WHAT WE'RE SAYING. SO THERE USED TO BE TWO MOBILITY RELATED PRIORITY ACTION AREAS. ONE WAS RELATED TO SAFE STREETS FOR ALL. ONE WAS RELATED TO CONNECTIVITY. WHAT WE DID IS COMBINE THOSE TWO AREAS, BUT WE DIDN'T LOSE ANYTHING FROM THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS. INSTEAD OF HAVING ONE RECOMMENDATION THAT SAID CLOSE SIDEWALK GAPS AND A TOTALLY DIFFERENT RECOMMENDATION THAT SAID MAKE SURE THAT THE SIDEWALKS ARE SHADED AND COMFORTABLE, NOW THE RECOMMENDATIONS ARE MORE CLEAR TO THE POINT REFLECTING OUR PRINCIPLES OF HAVING COMPLETE STREETS. SO THE RECOMMENDATION WOULD INSTEAD BE HAVE COMFORTABLE, CONNECTED SIDEWALKS TO GET YOU TO PLACES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. BY BEING MORE EFFICIENT IN OUR LANGUAGE IN THAT WAY, WE WERE ABLE TO ADD ECONOMIC AND WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT AS A PRIORITY ACTION AREA AND REALLY HIGHLIGHT THOSE KEY RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE WERE MAKING. ALSO ON THE SLIDE, OF COURSE, WE HAVE MAKING THE ACCESS TO THE MANY, MANY PARKS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD BETTER, ENHANCING NEIGHBORHOOD CHARACTER AND PROMOTING PUBLIC SAFETY. SO, UNDER EACH OF THE PRIORITY ACTION AREAS, THERE IS A VARIED NUMBER OF RECOMMENDATIONS, BUT THE RECOMMENDATIONS ARE ALL WRITTEN TO BE ACTION ORIENTED. IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT ENCOURAGE OR PROMOTE, IT'S DO THIS, RIGHT, BECAUSE WE WANT THIS TO BE AN ACTION PLAN. EACH OF THESE ACTIONS ARE ASSIGNED EITHER PRIMARY, SECONDARY, OR LONG TERM, AND WE CHOSE THAT LANGUAGE SPECIFICALLY SO THAT IT WASN'T, YOU KNOW, OFTENTIMES IN PLANS YOU'LL HAVE SHORT TERM MEANS ZERO TO SIX MONTHS. WE RECOGNIZE WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO EVERYTHING WITHIN A SIX MONTH TIME SPAN, WITHIN A ONE-YEAR TIME SPAN BUT WE WANT TO BE REALLY CLEAR ON THESE SHOULD BE THE ACTIONS TAKEN FIRST TO SET A FOUNDATION FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND WHAT IS COMING FORWARD FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD. IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAD A WAY TO MEASURE OUR SUCCESS OF IMPLEMENTATION. SO EACH OF THE ACTIONS ALSO HAS A SET OF METRICS THAT LETS US KNOW, OKAY, HOW SUCCESSFUL HAVE WE BEEN IN IMPLEMENTING THIS. AN EXAMPLE WOULD BE HOW MANY HOME OWNERSHIP WORKSHOPS HAVE BEEN HELD IN SULPHUR SPRINGS. IN ADDITION TO THE RECOMMENDATIONS, EACH OF THE PLAYBOOK ACTION AREAS ALSO HAS THE SUPPORTING MATERIALS SUCH AS A CASE STUDY AND VISUALIZATIONS. THE PURPOSE OF THESE WAS REALLY TO GIVE MORE OF A PICTURE OF HOW CAN THIS LOOK IN OUR COMMUNITY. HERE IS HOW OTHER COMMUNITIES ARE DOING IT OR HERE IS AN ILLUSTRATION OF WHAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING. IT HELPS GROUND IN AN ACHIEVABLE REALITY. I'VE SAID THIS MANY TIMES IN THE TIMES THAT I HAVE PRESENTED TO YOU ALL OR PRESENTED TO THE COMMUNITY, BUT IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN OUR INTENT TO HIT THE GROUND RUNNING WITH THE PLAN. WE'VE BEEN WORKING BEHIND THE SCENES AND GETTING IMPLEMENTATION GOING BEFORE THE PLAN WAS EVEN FINALIZED. THANKFULLY DUE TO GREAT PARTNERSHIP WITH PARTNER NONPROFIT RESILIENT CITIES CATALYST, WE WERE ABLE TO FUND SOME OF THESE ACTIVITIES THAT YOU SEE ON THE SLIDE. WE WERE ABLE TO FUND A COMPLETE STREET DESIGN FOR BIRD STREET. WE WERE ABLE TO GO OUT TO COMMUNITY EVENTS TO CONTINUE TO DO THAT COALITION BUILDING AMONG THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND WE WERE ABLE TO LAUNCH THE TAMPA WEATHER-WISE SMALL BUSINESS GRANT PROGRAM WHICH IS BOTH IN SULPHUR SPRINGS AND IN WEST TAMPA. AND THAT IS GOING TO HELP SMALL BUSINESSES PURCHASE ITEMS THAT ARE GOING TO HELP THEM BE MORE RESILIENT TO EXTREME WEATHER LIKE HEAT AND HURRICANES. SO IN MY NEXT PRESENTATION, I'M GOING TO PRESENT TO YOU SOME PROJECT IDEAS PER COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG'S MOTION, BUT IN THE MEANTIME, AFTER THAT, WE'RE ALSO GOING TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH OUR TECHNICAL WORKING GROUP DEPARTMENTS TO HELP THEM IMPLEMENT KIND OF THEIR EASY WIN IMPLEMENTATION ACTIVITIES AND WE'RE ALSO GOING TO RECONVENE THE WHOLE GROUP AT LEAST QUARTERLY TO MAKE SURE WE'RE KEEPING SULPHUR SPRINGS TOP OF MIND FOR ALL OF THESE DEPARTMENTS. I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS RELATED TO THE FINAL PLAN OR I CAN GO RIGHT INTO THE SECOND PRESENTATION. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: KEEP GOING. BRING UP THE NEXT PRESENTATION, PLEASE. ITEM 116. UH-OH, THAT'S NOT GOOD. YOU HAVE HARD COPIES. THANK YOU, CTTV. >> THIS IS STAPLED. SHOULD I TAKE OUT THE STAPLES? >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IT AIN'T FANCY. >> I'LL SAY MY NAME AGAIN. LAUREN VASQUEZ, CITY PLANNING DEPARTMENT. FOR THIS PRESENTATION, I'M GLAD I'LL BE ABLE TO POINT DIRECTLY ON THE PAPER FOR THIS ONE. FOR THIS PRESENTATION, WE WERE ASKED TO COME AND, WELL, FIRST OF ALL, WORK WITH OTHER DEPARTMENTS TO DEVELOP A SPECIFIC BUDGET FOR A CATALYST PROJECT OR PROGRAM BASED ON THE PRIORITY ACTIONS IDENTIFIED IN THE PLAN AND BY THE NEIGHBORHOOD. TO ADDRESS THAT FIRST POINT, WE WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT -- SO CITY COUNCIL PASSED THE MOTION ON MARCH 5, AND OVER THE COURSE OF MARCH, WE MET WITH TEN DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS, OVER NINE DIFFERENT MEETINGS. WHAT YOU SEE ON THE LEFT PART OF THAT SLIDE REALLY WAS THE AGENDA FOR EACH OF THOSE MEETINGS. WE STARTED IT OFF BY FIRST LOOKING AT ALL THE ASSIGNED ACTION, RECOMMENDATIONS THAT THE DEPARTMENTS WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR AS WRITTEN IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD ACTION PLAN. AND THEN WE TALKED ABOUT WHAT ARE YOUR EASY WINS. WHAT ARE THINGS YOU ALREADY HAVE FUNDING FOR THAT WE CAN MOVE FORWARD? I REALIZED I'M STILL HOLDING THE REMOTE. WHAT ARE YOUR EASY WINS? WHAT ARE CONSTRAINTS TO ACHIEVING THE REST OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT ARE ASSIGNED TO YOU IN THE PLAN. IF THOSE CONSTRAINTS WERE ADDRESSED, ESPECIALLY SOMETHING LIKE FUNDING WHAT COULD BE MOVED FORWARD IN THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR. LETTER FROM THE SULPHUR SPRINGS ACTION LEAGUE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION FOR THE SULPHUR SPRINGS NEIGHBORHOOD, WITH THE DEPARTMENTS THAT WERE IMPLICATIONS IN THE LETTER SO THAT WE COULD DISCUSS THE FEASIBILITY OF SOME OF THE REQUESTS. AND I FORGOT -- YEAH, IT PRINTED WEIRD FOR US. IMAGINE SOME NICE PICTURES THERE. AS HIGHLIGHTED, OF COURSE, IN MY LAST PRESENTATION, AND IN THE PRESENTATIONS WE'VE MADE BEFORE THAT, WE DID EXTENSIVE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AS PART OF THIS AND NOT JUST TRADITIONAL COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, WE MET PEOPLE WHERE THEY WERE AT, ON THE STREET, AT FOOD BANKS, AT SCHOOL EVENTS. WE WANTED TO GET A HOLISTIC VIEW OF WHAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD NEEDS WERE. SO AS A RESULT, WHEN WE'RE THINKING ABOUT WHAT ARE WE GOING TO SAY ARE THE TOP PRIORITIES OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE REFLECTING THE NEEDS OF EVERYONE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. WHAT WE FOUND WERE THAT THESE TOP FIVE NEEDS, COMMUNITY SAFETY, HOUSING STABILITY, SAFE STREETS, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND PARK ACCESS -- THANK YOU. JAVIER HAD A NICE COPY. NOW THAT I CAN NOTE IT, NOW THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE PICTURES, THESE ARE ALL PICTURES FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND FROM THAT EXTENSIVE ON THE STREET ENGAGEMENT THAT WE DID. THESE ARE THE TOP FIVE PRIORITIES, AND WHILE MAYBE YOU MIGHT TALK TO DIFFERENT RESIDENTS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THEY MIGHT NUMBER IN DIFFERENT WAYS. NUMBER ONE AND NUMBER FIVE MIGHT BE DIFFERENT FROM THE NEXT PERSON'S NUMBER ONE AND NUMBER FIVE. WE FOUND THAT THE FIVE TOPIC AREAS WERE CONSISTENTLY VERY IMPORTANT TO THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. OKAY. SO TODAY, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT REALLY TWO DIFFERENT BUCKETS OF FUNDING. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SURPLUS FUNDING $150,000 THAT WAS ALLOCATED BY CITY COUNCIL EARLIER TODAY. AND THEN ALSO GENERALLY TALKING ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT OF FISCAL YEAR 2027 PROJECTS AND PROGRAMS. SO ONE IMPORTANT THING TO NOTE FOR THE SURPLUS FUNDING IS THAT WE ARE ON A TIMELINE FOR THE SURPLUS FUNDING. WE HAVE TO EXPEND THE $150,000 THIS FISCAL YEAR, IN FISCAL YEAR 2026. BEFORE THE END OF SEPTEMBER. WE TOOK A LOOK AT THE LETTER FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. THIS IS THE LETTER THAT THEY SENT IN VERY EARLY MARCH. LATE FEBRUARY, EARLY MARCH, AND REALLY TOOK TO HEART THE QUICK VISIBLE IMPROVEMENTS. I'LL KIND OF GET INTO SOME OF THEIR SPECIFIC REQUESTS ON THE NEXT SLIDE, BUT I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THAT THAT WAS SOMETHING WE WERE CONSIDERING WHEN WE WERE DEVELOPING THE SURPLUS FUNDING PROJECTS. FOR FISCAL YEAR '27, WE'RE THINKING MORE ABOUT LARGER SCALE PROJECTS. BUT IN BOTH CASES, WE REALLY WANTED SOMETHING THAT HAD EXISTING SUPPORT BECAUSE AS THIS COUNCIL LIKELY KNOWS, EVEN THOUGH FISCAL YEAR 2027 WE HAVE MORE TIME TO DEVELOP AND IMPLEMENT PROJECTS, ONE FISCAL YEAR IS ALSO NOT A LOT OF TIME TO GET SOMETHING DONE. SO WE STILL WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE SUGGESTING SOMETHING THAT HAD AN EXISTING FOUNDATION AND WAS REASONABLE TO IMPLEMENT WITHIN THE NEXT YEAR. AND THEN IT REALLY GOES WITHOUT SAYING THAT ALL THE PROJECTS ARE ROOTED IN THOSE NEIGHBORHOOD PRIORITIES AND THE WORK AND FEEDBACK THAT WE HEARD THROUGHOUT THE PLAN. BEFORE I GET INTO THIS SLIDE, I DID JUST WANT TO TOUCH ON YOU ALL LIKELY RECEIVED A LETTER FROM THE SULPHUR SPRINGS ACTION LEAGUE THIS MORNING. I JUST WANTED TO SAY, SO THEY ARE FIRMLY EXPRESSING THEIR SUPPORT FOR THAT MINI-GRANT PROGRAM, FOR GRANTS DIRECTLY TO BUSINESS OWNERS, HOMEOWNERS, AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. WHILE WE FOR SURE SUPPORT THAT AND THE IDEA OF THAT, IT WAS JUST DEEMED NOT FEASIBLE FOR US TO DO AS PART OF THE SURPLUS FUNDING BECAUSE WE NEED TO GET IT EXPENDED BY SEPTEMBER 2026. SO AS A RESULT WHEN WE WERE DEVELOPING THIS, WE REALLY WERE THINKING ABOUT WHAT CAN WE DO THAT IS STILL ACHIEVING THE SPIRIT OF WHAT IS BEING ASKED FOR. SO THEY ARE ASKING FOR HOW CAN WE HELP SMALL BUSINESSES, HOW CAN WE HELP RESIDENTS CLEAN UP, HAVE THEIR HOMES, THEIR PROPERTIES LOOK A LITTLE NICER? SO HERE IS WHAT WE CAME UP WITH IN THAT VEIN. THE SOLID WASTE SWEEPS WE MET WITH NEIGHBORHOOD ENHANCEMENT AND SOLID WASTE EXTENSIVELY TO DISCUSS THIS. NEIGHBORHOOD ENHANCEMENT LET US KNOW THAT THE MOST PREVALENT ISSUE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS DEBRIS ACCUMULATION. AND OFTENTIMES THAT DEGREE ACCUMULATION WILL TURN INTO THE ILLEGAL -- DEBRIS ACCUMULATION WILL TURN INTO ILLEGAL DUMPLEG G BECAUSE PEOPLE CAN'T AFFORD TO TAKE TO THE DUMP OR PAY SPECIAL PICKUP FEES. IT IS OUR HYPOTHESIS BY MITIGATING AT THE SOURCE, MULTIPLE SWEEPS, OUR THOUGHTS ARE QUARTERLY AND COUPLING THAT WITH EXTENSIVE COMMUNITY OUTREACH AND ENGAGEMENT. I'LL TOUCH MORE ON THE ENGAGEMENT MODEL WHEN WE GET TO THE LAST POINT, BUT THIS IS REALLY RESIDENT LED ENGAGEMENT AND STEWARDSHIP OF THE COMMUNITY. TO THE SECOND POINT, THE 60K TOWARD SMALL BUSINESS GROWTH ACCELERATION, THAT IS REALLY FOCUSED ON HELPING SMALL BUSINESSES LEVEL UP. FOR EXAMPLE, THROUGHOUT OUR ENGAGEMENT, WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF INFORMAL BUSINESSES IN SULPHUR SPRINGS, SO THIS TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE CAN HELP THOSE BUSINESSES FORMALIZE OR IF THE BUSINESSES ARE ALREADY FORMALIZED, MAYBE THEY WANT TO MOVE INTO A STOREFRONT. THIS TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE CAN HELP THEM DO THAT, AND THAT WOULD DULY -- DUALLY SUPPORT ADDRESSING COMMERCIAL VACANCY WHICH WE KNOW IS A LARGE ISSUE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. TO THE LAST POINT, THIS IS ONE OF THE REQUESTS DIRECTLY NOTED IN THE LETTER FROM THE ACTION LEAGUE THAT WE WERE ABLE TO DIRECTLY SUPPORT. AND THIS IS ALL ABOUT HAVING THE ENGAGEMENT THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING CONTINUE. AND THAT ENGAGEMENT MODEL DOES INVOLVE EMPLOYING RESIDENTS TO DO THE OUTREACH AND DO THE COALITION BUILDING. FOR EXAMPLE, THROUGH THAT PHILANTHROPIC FUNDING THAT WE HAVE THROUGH RESILIENT CITIES CATALYST, WE HAVE AN ENGAGEMENT CONSULTANT OR RATHER RCC HAS AN ENGAGEMENT CONSULTANT THAT IS ALREADY DOING THIS WORK. WORKING WITH THE PARENT TEACHER ASSOCIATION AT SULPHUR SPRINGS K-8, PAYING A STEWARD OF THE COMMUNITY THAT LIVES IN THE COMMUNITY, WORKS IN THE COMMUNITY, KIDS GO TO THE SCHOOL, TO DO SURVEYS FOR THE PARENTS AND LEARN MORE ABOUT WHAT NEEDS THERE ARE FOR SAFE ROUTES TO SCHOOL AND HOW WE CAN BETTER SERVE THOSE NEEDS. THIS 20K WILL WORK TOWARDS CONTINUING TO FUND THAT WORK, AND THE 70K IS PART OF THE SWEEPS, PART OF THAT IS THAT ENGAGEMENT. SO 20K IS KIND OF LIKE THE GENERAL BUT ALSO I WANT TO NOTE THAT PART OF THE 70K IS ENVISIONED TO BE THAT KIND OF DOOR-TO-DOOR OUTREACH TO REALLY EDUCATE PEOPLE ON, HEY, THIS DAY IS COMING UP, HERE'S WHAT YOU NEED TO DO. HERE IS HOW WE CAN HELP YOU CLEAN UP YOUR PROPERTY AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO, WE ARE ALSO WORKING WITH OUR PARTNER DEPARTMENTS IN THE TECHNICAL WORKING GROUP TO WORK TO CONTINUE TO SUPPORT PRIORITIES OF THE PLAN AND PRIORITIES OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD IN THE FISCAL YEAR 2027 REQUEST. AS YOU ARE ALL AWARE, WE ARE PRETTY EARLY ON IN THE BUDGET SEASON, AND SO WE HAVE JUST BEEN WORKING WITH THESE DEPARTMENTS TO PARTNER AND SUPPORT THE VISION OF THE PLAN IN WHICHEVER WAY WE CAN. AND THEN AS I MENTIONED, WE ALSO DISCUSSED THOSE EASY WINS, THINGS THAT ALREADY HAD FUNDING. SO THINGS LIKE UTILIZING THE ART TRUST FUND OR SUPPORTING PARKS AND ALREADY $3 MILLION ALLOCATED TOWARD PARKS IMPROVEMENTS IN SULPHUR SPRINGS. CITY PLANNING, ME AND MY TEAM, WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO PROVIDE SUPPORT TO THOSE DEPARTMENTS TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE EASY ONES ARE BEING ACCOMPLISHED IN SULPHUR SPRINGS AND ALSO BEING COMMUNICATED TO THE COMMUNITY. I HAVE A MONTHLY NEWSLETTER THAT I SEND OUT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND I MAKE SURE TO LET THEM KNOW EVENTS THAT ARE COMING UP, CITY COUNCIL COMING UP, AND THE WORK THAT WE'RE DOING MONTH TO MONTH. SO, NEXT STEPS, I BELIEVE THAT THE FINANCIAL RESOLUTION WAS PASSED THIS MORNING. WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE WORKING WITH THE TECHNICAL WORKING GROUP DEVELOPING THOSE FISCAL YEAR '27 PROJECTS AND PROGRAMS. I HAVE WITH ME HERE TODAY MOBILITY, ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY, AND MS. FEELEY CAN ALSO TALK TO HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT IF NECESSARY IF THERE ARE QUESTIONS RELATED TO THOSE DEPARTMENTS. AND WE ARE AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I'LL DROP MY TWO CENTS AND THEN BE DONE. THE SWEEP PROGRAM I THINK IS A GREAT IDEA. TWO THUMBS UP. GOOD FIRST STEP. >>LYNN HURTAK: I'LL LET COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG GO. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I HAVE VIERA, TOO. >>LUIS VIERA: I'M NOT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I HAVE MANISCALCO. COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG, GO AHEAD. >>NAYA YOUNG: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I WORKED ON THIS PROJECT IN PHASE ONE DURING THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND TO SEE WHERE IT HAS COME NOW AND TO BE ON THIS SIDE OF THE PROJECT IS VERY FULL CIRCLE. I'M REALLY EXCITED JUST TO SEE ALL THE PROGRESS THAT HAS BEEN MADE. I THINK HAVING ACTION ITEMS AND STEPS TO MOVE FORWARD IS KEY SO IT DOESN'T BECOME SOMETHING THAT WE JUST TALK ABOUT. WE'RE PUTTING MONEY WHERE OUR MOUTHS ARE AND MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE PUTTING MONEY INTO SULPHUR SPRINGS, WHICH I THINK IS WELL DESERVED AND SO NEEDED. I DO HAVE A QUESTION. THE BIRD STREET DESIGN CHARRETTE, IS THAT A PROJECT THAT IS A COMPLETE STREET PROJECT THAT IS HAPPENING? OR IS IT GOING TO? >> SO THE DESIGN, YES, ALREADY HAPPENED. WE ARE STILL AWAITING THE FINAL LIKE DIGITAL FILES AND THEN ADAM, YOU CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, AT THAT POINT, WE WOULD THEN LOOK AT WHAT ARE THE QUICK BUILD OPPORTUNITIES OF THIS DESIGN, HOW MUCH FUNDING DO WE HAVE ALLOCATED IN THE EXISTING VISION ZERO QUICK BUILD FUND AND THEN WHAT ARE THE LONG-TERM IMPROVEMENTS AND KIND OF HOW THOSE CAN GET PROGRAMMED INTO THE FUTURE. >> RIGHT, EXACTLY. ADAM PURCELL, TRANSPORTATION SERVICES DIRECTOR WITH MOBILITY. WE HAD A THREE-DAY WORKSHOP WITH A CONSULTANT THAT CAME IN AS PART OF THIS EFFORT THAT HELPED THE MOBILITY DEPARTMENT WORK THROUGH BIRD STREET. BIRD STREET CONNECTS FLORIDA AND NEBRASKA UNDER THE INTERSTATE. THE INTERSTATE REALLY DIVIDES THIS COMMUNITY AND IT SERVES AS A BARRIER TO MOVEMENT. SO WE THOUGHT BIRD STREET WAS CRITICAL IN IMPROVING THE BICYCLE PEDESTRIAN CONNECTION PARTICULARLY, UNDER THE INTERSTATE, SO THAT PEOPLE CAN MOVE FREELY WITHIN THE COMMUNITY. WE WORKED THROUGH THAT CHARRETTE. THEY ARE WORKING ON A DESIGN CONCEPT RIGHT NOW. WE ASK THE CONSULTANT TO GIVE US NEAR TERM DESIGN SOLUTIONS THAT WE CAN IMPLEMENT AT LOW COST. WHAT WE CALL QUICK-BUILD PROJECTS. PAINT, DELINEATORS. WITHOUT RECONSTRUCTING STORMWATER, WITHOUT RECONSTRUCTING CURB, WITHOUT SIGNIFICANT WORK, SOMETHING WE CAN DO AS PART OF A REPAVING PROJECT. WE HOPE TO GET THAT IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS, FEW WEEKS FROM THE CONSULTANT SO WE CAN START TO LOOK AT HOW WE CAN PROGRAM IT. WE HAVE AVAILABLE FUNDING IN THE NEXT FY FOR QUICK BUILD PROGRAM. DEPENDING ON WHAT COMES BACK FROM THIS DESIGN CHARRETTE AND THIS CONCEPTUAL PLAN, WE CAN IMPLEMENT SOME NEAR-TERM IMPROVEMENTS ON BIRD. WHAT WE ASKED THE CONSULTANT TO DO WAS NOT JUST THE NEAR TERM BUT TAKE A LOOK AT THE LONG TERM. IF WE CAN PROGRAM OR SEEK FEDERAL FUNDS FOR A LARGER CAPITAL PROJECT TO MAKE THAT KIND OF IMPROVEMENT MORE PERMANENT, THEN THAT'S SOMETHING WE WANTED TO EVALUATE AS WELL. WE KNOW THERE IS A SHORT-TERM NEED AND LONG-TERM NEED, BUT WHAT WE EXPECT TO IMPLEMENT IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS IS LIKE A QUICK BUILD PROJECT ON BIRD STREET. >>NAYA YOUNG: THAT IS VERY AWESOME. THANK YOU, ADAM. I ALSO REALLY LOVE EMPLOYING THE RESIDENTS TO DO THE WORK. I THINK THAT IS AN AWESOME CONCEPT. ONE, I THINK YOU HAVE THIS SENSE OF OWNERSHIP OVER YOUR COMMUNITY AND OVER YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND WANT TO CONTINUE TO SEE IT FLOURISH, SO I THINK THAT'S AWESOME. THAT'S ALL. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING VERY THOROUGH. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK FOLLOWED BY MANISCALCO. >>LYNN HURTAK: I AGREE. I THINK THIS IS FABULOUS. JUST BECAUSE IT'S A PROJECT KIND OF NEAR AND DEAR TO MY HEART, WE REACHED OUT TO PARKS TO FIND OUT PART OF THAT 3 MILLION. I DO WANT TO GIVE AN UPDATE TO THE COMMUNITY IF THEY ARE LISTENING AND TO THE REST OF COUNCIL. THE RIVER TOWER PARK UPDATE, I GOT THE MONEY JUST FOR A LOOP. WE REACHED OUT AND IT'S EXPANDED IN SCOPE WITHOUT ME REALIZING IT. IT'S VERY EXCITING. WE'LL HAVE A CIRCULAR PATH, IMPROVED PARKING, BENCHES, PICNIC SHELTERS, WHICH IS REALLY COOL AND THAT WAS NOT ON MY LIST, BUT I LOVE IT. I THINK IT'S WONDERFUL. THE PATH THAT WILL CONNECT TO THE BOARDWALK THAT GOES UNDER 275 AND ONCE I LET PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT IT, THAT WAS KIND OF ON ME. THEY WERE LIKE, THIS ISN'T SAFE. MAYBE I SHOULD HAVE STAYED QUIET. WHO KNOWS. EITHER WAY, BOTH OF THEM ARE GOING TO BE REPAIRED, AND BECAUSE THEY ARE WORKING TOGETHER, THEY ARE ALL GOING TO BE PERMANENT TOGETHER. UNFORTUNATELY, THEY ARE ON THE RIVER, WHICH MEANS THAT WE HAVE TO GET EPC APPROVAL AND THEY SAID THAT IS LIKE SIX MONTHS. THE GOAL IS TO GET IT STARTED IN JANUARY, IS THAT RIGHT SHOVELING IN JANUARY. WE'LL SEE. I HAVE LIKE FINGERS CROSSED THAT MAYBE IT WILL GO THROUGH FASTER. WHO KNOWS. ESPECIALLY BECAUSE WE'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING TO HARM THE RIVER'S EDGE. ALSO, I GOT AN UPDATE ON THE SULPHUR SPRINGS POOL BECAUSE THAT'S EVERYBODY'S OTHER FAVORITE. IT SAYS THE POOL DECK, BORING AND SOIL SAMPLE COLLECTION COMPLETED. SAMPLES HAVE BEEN SENT OUT TO TEST TO DETERMINE THE CAUSE OF THE POOL SINKING. SEAWALL PERMITTING IS COMPLETE AND SEAWALL IS CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION. BUT ONCE THE RESULTS COME BACK TO THE LAB, WE'LL HAVE MORE INFORMATION. I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT MOBILITY IN CONNECTION WITH THAT, BECAUSE WITH THE BIRD STREET, WHEN WE FIRST BIKED THE NEW GREEN ARTERY, WE USED BIRD STREET, AND THAT WAS REALLY SCARY. THE SECOND TIME I DID IT, I TOOK EVERYBODY THROUGH THE PARK, AND THAT'S HOW THEY FOUND OUT ABOUT THE BOARDWALK. SO THERE DEFINITELY WILL BE MORE CONNECTIONS. I WOULD LOVE TO SEE, BIRD IS A REALLY UNDERUTILIZED STREET. I DON'T KNOW IF IT NEEDS TO BE FOUR TO FIVE LANES ANYMORE. I WOULD LOVE TO TALK ABOUT WHAT A DOUBLE PROTECTED BIKEWAY MIGHT BE THERE. MORE IMPORTANTLY, WE DO NEED TO CONNECT THOSE TWO. ALSO, ONCE IT GETS INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BIRD STREET, THEY SAID OVER AND OVER AGAIN THAT THAT'S A REAL BIG STREET THAT PEOPLE WANT TO BE ABLE TO GO UP AND DOWN AND AROUND. IT'S IMPORTANT -- ITS IMPORTANCE TO THE COMMUNITY. THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I WAS HOPING TO SEE BECAUSE THIS IS HOW EVERYTHING CONNECTS TOGETHER. >> YEAH, SO I JUST WANTED TO THROW THIS UP ON THE WOLF REAL QUICK TO SHOW THAT THERE HAVE BEEN SOME COMPLETE STREET IMPROVEMENTS INSTALLED ON BIRD STREET THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND, IN FACT, WHEN WE STARTED THE PROJECT AND WE WERE HEARING HOW BAD THESE SPEED BUMPS WERE, WHICH HAVE NOW BEEN REDONE, WE WERE HEARING PRAISE ABOUT THE SPEED TABLES ON BIRD STREET, WHICH IS NOT TO SAY THERE ARE STILL IMPROVEMENTS TO BE MADE. TO MAKE THE STREET SAFER, WE'RE ALL EARS. WE'RE DEFINITELY THINKING ABOUT THIS IN TERMS OF AGAIN THE COMPLETE STREET CONNECTIVITY, WHICH IS ONE OF THE PRIORITY ACTION AREAS OF OUR PLAN. >>LYNN HURTAK: GOING ALONG WITH THAT, ABOUT IRD IS ALSO A MAJOR CAR THOROUGHFARE -- BIRD IS ALSO A MAJOR CAR THOROUGHFARE. I DON'T WANT BIKES AND PEDESTRIANS ON THE CAR THOROUGHFARES AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. REALLY LOOKING AT THE PARALLEL STREETS AND LOOKING AT THOSE AS THE BIKE BOULEVARD AREAS THAT WE WANT TO ENCOURAGE MULTI-MOBILITY TO GO DOWN. I WOULD REALLY LOVE TO HEAR MORE ABOUT THAT. >> YEAH, WE HAVEN'T STARTED TO LOOK AT OTHER ROADWAYS WITHIN SULPHUR SPRINGS FOR COMPLETE STREETS IMPROVEMENTS. THE TRAFFIC CALMING EXERCISE HAPPENED OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS. YOU CAN SEE EVERY RED POINT HERE IS WHERE THEY CAME IN AND PUT AN ALL-WAYS STOP. THERE WAS TRAFFIC ANALYSIS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THEY TALKED TO THE RESIDENTS. THEY CAME IN AND IMPLEMENTED FOUR-WAY STOPS. THAT IS AN INEXPENSIVE WAY TO SLOW TRAFFIC IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THEY PUT SPEED TABLES AND SPEED CUSHIONS. BLUE DOTS THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY, LOCATIONS WHERE TRAFFIC CALMING, SPEED HUMPS OR CUSHIONS WERE INSTALLED. ONE OF THE PLACES THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT MAKING IMPROVEMENTS IS OUR SIDEWALK PRIORITIES. SO WE HAVE A TOP 50 PRIORITY LIST. OUR PRIORITY SIDEWALKS KIND OF FLANK THE K-8 SCHOOL THERE. RIGHT NOW IT IS A K-8. I KNOW WE HAVE A PENDING MEMO TO DO AN EVALUATION TO THE MIDDLE SCHOOL STUDENTS THAT WILL BE SHIFTED. WE ALREADY TALKED TO HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY SCHOOLS ON THAT. THEY ARE GOING TO BUS EVERY MIDDLE SCHOOL STUDENT THAT IS SHIFTED TO A NEW SCHOOL. WE'LL CONTINUE TO LOOK AT THAT BECAUSE I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE GETTING BACK IS AS THOSE OLDER CHILDREN GO TO OTHER SCHOOLS, THE YOUNGER CHILDREN WILL HAVE TO WALK TO K-6 SCHOOL BY THEMSELVES. OR K-5 SCHOOL BY THEMSELVES. THAT'S WHERE WE'RE LOOKING AT DOING SIDEWALK INVESTMENT NEAR THE SCHOOL. AND THEN THE ROWLETT PARK PIECE, IT IS A BRIDGE WITH A NARROW SIDEWALK. LOOKING OPTIONS THROUGH 2023 SC 4 A, WAITING FOR FEDERAL HIGHWAY TO FINALIZE THE GRANT ON. THAT IS THE ANOTHER WITH FEDERAL FUNDS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. HAVEN'T STARTED LOOKING TO THE COMMUNITY. GOOD NOTE. I'LL TAKE THAT BACK, BUT SHIFTING -- WE TRIED TO SLOW THE TRAFFIC ON BIRD, BUT POTENTIALLY SHIFTING IT TO OTHER CORRIDORS IS AN OPTION AS WELL. >>LYNN HURTAK: JUST BECAUSE YOU BROUGHT IT UP, GLAD YOU BROUGHT THE SIDEWALKS UP BECAUSE THAT WAS ON MY LIST, TOO. AS YOU GO UNDER THE RAILROAD TRACKS TO GET TO THE OTHER SIDE, THAT'S ALSO A VERY NARROW CORRIDOR. AND THERE ARE A LOT OF FOLKS WHO AGAIN DON'T USE CARS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S STILL AN ACTIVE RAIL LINE. >> IT IS. >>LYNN HURTAK: IT IS. SO LOOKING AT WAYS THAT WE CAN GET PEOPLE SAFELY UNDER THAT RAILROAD TRESTLE OR AMONGST OTHER THINGS. I KNOW THAT THE GREEN ARTERY TRAIL IS GOING TO BE LOOKED AT AGAIN. NOW THAT WE'VE CLOSED THE STREET OR RATHER -- THERE IS A PART OF ROGERS PARK GOLF COURSE THAT WAS A RAIL SPUR THAT I KNOW WE'RE CONSIDERING FOR MULTIMODAL AS WELL. >> RIGHT, WE CONSTRUCTED SEGMENTS D AND E. THE BLUE AND PINK SEGMENTS OF THE GREEN ARTERY HAVE BEEN CONSTRUCTED. WE TALKED ABOUT RIVER TOWER PARK AND HOW THAT TRAIL WILL CONNECT THE MIDDLE PIECE. WHAT WE'RE DOING IN MOBILITY NOW IS WE'RE WORKING WITH OUR VISION ZERO ENGINEER AND VISION ZERO PLANNER TO GO THROUGH THE REMAINING SEGMENTS OF THE GREEN ARTERY AND BEGIN TO GET CONCEPTUAL DESIGN FOR THOSE AND BEGIN TO GET PLANNING LEVEL COST ESTIMATES. WE HAVE FUNDING IN FY '28 AND '29 THAT COULD POTENTIALLY BE USED TO SUPPORT THE GREEN ARTERY. RIGHT NOW THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TARGETING FOR FUNDING. COUPLE MILLION DOLLARS TO IMPLEMENT ADDITIONAL SEGMENTS OF THE GREEN ARTERY. >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT'S WONDERFUL. YOU HAVE TO TAKE THAT OFF THE SLIDE. THAT IS A SCARY AND DANGEROUS PLACE TO RIDE A BIKE. I KNOW BECAUSE I DO IT. SLIGH AVENUE. THAT IS SCARY AND DANGEROUS. >> SLIGH IS PART OF A GRANT THAT WE HOPE TO IMPROVE THE CONDITION ON SLIGH AS WELL. >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU. >> I GOT THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE IN A RECONNECTING COMMUNITIES INSTITUTE WORKING GROUP ON ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION, ALONG WITH ONE OF OUR CONSULTANTS ON THIS PLAN. AND WE WERE ABLE TO TRAVEL AND LEARN FROM PEER COMMUNITIES AND PRESENT SULPHUR SPRINGS AS A CASE STUDY BECAUSE AS WE CAN SEE BETWEEN THE RAILROAD, THE HIGHWAY, AND THE STATE ROADWAYS, THERE ARE SO MANY TRANSPORTATION CREATED CONSTRAINTS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO WE ARE TAKING THOSE LESSONS LEARNED AND MOVING THEM FORWARD IN OUR IMPLEMENTATION ACTIVITIES. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I'LL PASS. THANK YOU. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: VERY GOOD. WE'RE GOOD. THANK YOU SO MUCH. APPRECIATE IT. OUR LAST AGENDA ITEM, MS. FEELEY. >>ABBYE FEELEY: THANK YOU, COUNCIL. ONE THING I WANT TO TALK ON BEFORE LAUREN LEAVES. ABBYE FEELEY ADMINISTRATOR OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITY. THE CONVERSATION AROUND BIRD STREET, WE'RE STILL WORKING ON THAT AS PART OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE UPDATE. THAT'S ONE OF THE CORRIDORS WE'RE STUDYING. THAT IS WHERE THE STREET IMPROVEMENTS WILL MEET THE VERTICAL CONSTRUCTION AND WE WILL START TO CREATE THAT PLACE THAT WE REALLY ARE LOOKING TO. ALSO, LAUREN IS PARTICIPATING IN A HART CORRIDOR STUDY. >> YES, TOD PHASE TWO THAT IS FOCUSING ON THE NORTHERN SECTION OF THE PROPOSED HART BRT ROUTE. WE ARE LEVERAGING WHAT WE'VE LEARNED IN THIS PLAN AND MOVING THAT FORWARD IN THAT PLAN. >>ABBYE FEELEY: AS ALL THESE EFFORTS COME TOGETHER, THEY REALLY WILL START TO WORK TOGETHER AND WE'RE ENSURING AS THEY LOOK AT THE RIGHT-OF-WAY IMPROVEMENTS THAT ADAM WAS JUST TALKING ABOUT, THOSE HAVE A PARTNERSHIP WITH THE LAND AND THAT THIS ALL GOES BACK TO THE ACTION PLAN AND THAT ALL OF THOSE THINGS ARE COGNIZANT OF ONE ANOTHER. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MS. FEELEY, YOU PROMISED ME THIS WOULD BE SHORT. >>ABBYE FEELEY: SO SHORT. ABBYE FEELEY. QUICK UPDATE ON THE LDC. MANY OF YOU, IF YOU'RE ALREADY REGISTERED FOR TAMPA FORWARD, WE HAD A NEWSLETTER THAT WENT OUT TODAY. ONE OF THE THINGS I'VE COMMITTED TO WITH YOU, ALONG THIS PROCESS IS NUMBER ONE, COME AND TALK TO YOU, BE HERE, BE PRESENT, KEEP YOU ENGAGED IN WHAT'S GOING ON, WHERE WE'RE AT. BUT ANOTHER THING WE LEARNED IS THROUGH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE IS KEEPING THE PUBLIC ENGAGED THROUGH THE PROCESS SO THAT WE'RE NOT COMING INTO YOU ON THAT FIRST ADOPTION HEARING OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, SEEING THAT WE SHOULD HAVE DONE MORE PUBLIC OUTREACH. WE JUST SET UP FOUR UPCOMING MEETINGS THAT MYSELF AND ERIC COTTON FROM DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION WILL BE GOING OUT. WE DID A NORTH, SOUTH, EAST, AND WEST. THEY ARE GOING TO BE HELD AT THESE COMMUNITY CENTERS AND WORKING WITH COMMUNICATIONS TO GET THOSE -- WE GOT THE LOCATIONS AND TIMES SET UP AND JUST MAKING SURE WE'RE GETTING THAT WORD OUT. THIS WILL ALSO BE GOING ON THE DOWNTOWN IKE KIOSKS. WE'RE ALSO WORKING ON GETTING IT UP ON THE DIGITAL BOARD AT HANNA. WE'RE ALSO WORKING ON GETTING IT OUT ON SOME OTHER SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORMS TO CREATE THAT ENGAGEMENT FOR THESE UPCOMING PUBLIC MEETINGS. IN ADDITION TO THESE FOUR, WE WILL ALSO BE PRESENTING ON THE THAN JUNE 10th MEETING, THAT IS A VIRTUAL MEETING. THAT WOULD BE FIVE TOTAL MEETINGS, AND THEN WE'RE LOOKING AT DOING THESE WHEN WE DO INSTALLMENT TWO AND THEN WHEN WE DO INSTALLMENT THREE. AS YOU KNOW, IT'S COMING IN THREE INSTALLMENTS. THAT'S REALLY WHERE WE ARE FOCUSED IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS IS ON CONTINUED PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT. I THINK THE SURVEY INSTRUMENT OUT ON THE WEBSITE WAS CLOSED, BUT IT IS GOING TO BE REOPENED IN CONCERT WITH THESE GOING OUT. ALSO, ANYONE OUT THERE CAN E-MAIL TAMPA FORWARD, AND THOSE COMMENTS COME RIGHT INTO US AND WE WORK WITH JEFF AND THE CLARION TEAM TO ENSURE THAT THOSE COMMENTS ARE BEING INTEGRATED AS WELL. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. >>LYNN HURTAK: I REALLY APPRECIATE THIS. THIS IS GREAT. I HAVE ACTUALLY BEEN DOING SOME SPEAKING ENGAGEMENTS WITH -- I MEAN, THE COMMUNITY, WE'RE REACHING OUT TO THE COMMUNITY, BUT ALSO WITH THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY AND WITH SOME OF OUR, LIKE, COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE FOLKS. AND SO ANYTHING YOU HAVE, ANY CONNECTIONS YOU HAVE, THEY HAVE BEEN VERY INTERESTED IN WHAT WE'RE DOING. SO WE REALLY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE MIGHT BE A MEETING THAT MIGHT FOCUS MORE ON COMMERCIAL BECAUSE THIS IS ALL SEEMS TO BE FOCUSED AROUND RESIDENTIAL. AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE ARE HEARING FROM OUR NEIGHBORS IS THEY WANT COMMERCIAL SPACES, BUT I THINK OFTENTIMES THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. LIKE, IF YOU WANT COMMERCIAL, HOW DO YOU GET IT? AND HOW IS THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE CONNECT WITH THAT? ALSO JUST TO REACH OUT TO THE COMMERCIAL BUSINESS COMMUNITY TO MAKE SURE THAT THEIR QUESTIONS ARE ANSWERED OR MAYBE THEY SEE SOMETHING BECAUSE THEY WORK IN THE COMMERCIAL SPACE ALL DAY THAT WE DON'T. >>ABBYE FEELEY: WE CAN DO THAT. THERE ARE A LOT OF ORGANIZATIONS THAT WE CAN GET INVOLVED WITH THAT WAY. NO PROBLEM. >>LYNN HURTAK: THANKS. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU, MS. FEELEY. THANK YOU TO YOU AND YOUR STAFF AND EVERYTHING YOU DO. THAT CONCLUDES OUR REGULARLY SCHEDULED PROGRAM. REGULAR BUSINESS IS DONE. COUNCILMAN CARLSON, NEW BUSINESS. >>BILL CARLSON: THERE HAVE BEEN SEVERAL STORIES RECENTLY ABOUT -- I DON'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT PARTICULAR CASE -- BUT SEVERAL STORIES ABOUT THE CULTURE OF THE CITY AND THE WORD RETALIATION HAS BEEN CIRCULATED. A YEAR OR SO AGO I MADE A MOTION AND YOU ALL SUPPORTED TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT PROTECTING WHISTLE-BLOWERS. THE CITY ATTORNEY SAID WE WERE LIMITED ABOUT WHAT WE CAN DO. BUT I OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS HAD A LOT OF CALLS FROM CURRENT AND FORMER EMPLOYEES WHO IN PARTICULAR ARE WORRIED ABOUT RETALIATION FROM PEOPLE INSIDE THE ADMINISTRATION. I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT THE CURRENT AND FORMER EMPLOYEES WOULD LIKE US TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. I WOULD RECOMMEND SINCE WE HAVE LIMITED AUTHORITY THAT WE INVITE THE CHIEF OF STAFF TO JUST TALK ABOUT THAT. I PICKED JUNE 4, BUT MOTION TO ASK THE CHIEF OF STAFF TO RETURN ON JUNE 4 TO SPEAK TO COUNCIL AND EMPLOYEES THROUGH THE TV ABOUT HOW THE ADMINISTRATION WILL PROTECT EMPLOYEES FROM RETALIATION. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT. >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I SAY ONE MORE THING? >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SURE. >>BILL CARLSON: ALTHOUGH IT'S FLATTERING THAT FOLKS IN THE COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT LIKE COPYING THINGS THAT I POST ONLINE AND SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES, THEY ARE PAID A LOT OF MONEY AND THEY CAN COME UP WITH THEIR OWN IDEAS. I SUGGEST THAT THE ADMINISTRATION COME UP AND THE COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT COME UP WITH SOME ORIGINAL IDEAS. ALSO, I THINK THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN OVERUSED LIKE GENERATIONAL. EVERYTHING CAN'T BE A GENERATIONAL OR TRANSFORMATIONAL. THERE ARE A LOT OF IMPORTANT PROJECTS THAT THE CITY IS GETTING THROUGH, BUT SOME OF THAT SEEMS TIRED. IN SCHOOL, IF YOU P PLAGIARIZED, YOU GET AN F. IF WE SEE PLAGIARIZATION FROM CITY COUNCIL, WE CAN BE FLATTERED OR, HEY, YOU GUYS ARE GETTING PAID A LOT, YOU CAN DO YOUR OWN WORK. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN VIERA. >>LUIS VIERA: ONE THREE-MINUTE ONE. I WANT TO MOTION ON JULY 16, MANY OF US KNOW PORTICO HOUSING SOLUTIONS, WE FUNDED THEM, THEIR EFFORTS. AND I WANT PASTOR JUSTIN LAROSA TO COME AND TALK FIVE MINUTES ABOUT THE GOOD WORK THAT HE DOES. ALSO INVITE A GENTLEMAN BY THE NAME OF TAP. A LOCAL ARTIST, REALLY NICE GENTLEMAN WHO LIVES IN THAT HOUSING. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I HAVE A CONFLICT. WE ALREADY HAVE POLICE OF THE MONTH. I HAVE PSTA IS REQUESTING US ON THAT DAY, TOO. >>LUIS VIERA: WHAT IS THE NEXT AVAILABLE DATE HERE? >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ONLY ONE PRESENTATION ON THE 30th OF JULY. >>LUIS VIERA: HOW ABOUT AUGUST 27? >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT WORKS. >>LUIS VIERA: THAT'S MY MOTION. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, AYE. OPPOSED. >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COUNCIL. NEXT, I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT, I SENT OUT A MOTION ON THIS REGARDING THE APPARENT -- IN NEW TAMPA, THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF CHATTER ONLINE AND WE'RE GETTING E-MAILS, AT LEAST I'M GETTING E-MAILS AND EVERYTHING ON THE APPARENT TRANSFER OR PROSPECTIVE TRANSFER OF AN ASSET THAT I BELIEVE WOULD BE -- I THINK FIRE STATION 23, IF WHAT I'M HEARING IS CORRECT. AGAIN, A LOT OF VAGUENESS OUT THERE AND HEARING A LOT OF IT FROM NEW TAMPA. I ALWAYS OPERATE FROM THE PRESUMPTION THAT IF YOU ARE IN DISTRICT 7, YOU HAVE ALWAYS GOT TO YELL A LITTLE BIT LOUDER, BANG A LITTLE BIT HARDER WHENEVER IT COMES TO THINGS IN YOUR DISTRICT. I DEALT WITH THAT TIME AND TIME AGAIN, I SUGGEST. AND I THINK THAT THE SITUATION WITH FIRE RESPONSE TIMES OVER MY TEN YEARS, THE LAST THREE STATIONS THAT WE'VE GOTTEN HAVE BEEN FOR DISTRICT SEVEN AREA. ONE JUST OUTSIDE AT LEAST NORTH IN NEW TAMPA. I'VE BEEN FIGHTING FOR A LONG TIME ON RESPONSE TIMES IN K-BAR RANCH IN PARTICULAR WHERE WE DO HAVE A CHALLENGE THERE. I'VE ALWAYS BEEN OF THE BELIEF AS HAS BEEN STATED IN THE PAST, BY TAMPA FIRE RESCUE, SHOULD BE A FIRE STATION DEDICATED IN K-BAR RANCH. BUT THERE HAVE BEEN OTHER COMPROMISES. WE TALK ABOUT THE CUT-THRU, WHICH I DON'T THINK WILL BE COMING FOR AT LEAST ANOTHER YEAR, IF WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING IS RIGHT, BUT WE ARE HERE. LIKE I INDICATED IN MY MEMO, I'VE BEEN MADE AWARE OF POTENTIAL ASSET TRANSFER FROM NEW TAMPA THAT HAS MANY PEOPLE CONCERNED. THEY LIVE OUT THE RESPONSE TIMES EVERY DAY AND HEAR WHAT THEIR NEIGHBORS TALK ABOUT PARTICULARLY IN K-BAR RANCH. I WANT A CLEAR BRIEFING ON A POSITION STATEMENT ON WHAT IS HAPPENING AND WHAT IS GOING ON. NEW TAMPA COMMUNITY IS TO RECEIVE A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING OF THE PLAN OF OPERATION, OPERATIONAL CONSIDERATIONS, SHORTEN LONG-TERM PLANS TO ADDRESS RESPONSE PLANS IN 33647 AND HOW THIS POTENTIAL CHANGE WOULD AFFECT IT. MY MOTION IS ON JUNE -- STRIKE THAT, MAY 21st, TO HAVE BOTH A REPRESENTATIVE OF TAMPA FIRE RESCUE AS WELL AS A REPRESENTATIVE FROM INTERNATIONAL LOCAL 754 TO COME AND PROVIDE A BRIEFING REGARDING RESPONSE TIMES AND FIRE RESCUE COVERAGE IN NEW TAMPA AND A 33647 AREA. SULING, I'LL GET YOU THIS MEMO WITH PARTICULAR ATTENTION GIVEN TO K-BAR RANCH. THIS INCLUDES POTENTIAL DEPLOYMENT, CHANGE, ASSET RELOCATION INVOLVING NEW TAMPA RESOURCES THAT AGAIN HAS GENERATED A LOT OF CONCERN IN THE AREA. I DO WANT TO HAVE TRANSPARENCY ON THAT. I ALWAYS SAY THAT -- I ALWAYS JOKE THAT I HAVE A CHIP ON MY SHOULDER ABOUT NEW TAMPA. IT'S FUNNY, BECAUSE I'M GOING TO SAY THIS. UNDER MAYOR CASTOR, WE'VE HAD GREAT, GREAT STRIDES ON A LOT OF THINGS WITH PARKS AND RECREATION, DIFFERENT CHALLENGES THAT WE'VE HAD, INCLUDING MOBILITY IN NEW TAMPA, BUT I LISTEN TO THE STATE OF THE CITY AND THERE WASN'T A MENTION OF NEW TAMPA, WHICH I THOUGHT WAS A MISSED OPPORTUNITY FOR THIS ADMINISTRATION TO TALK TO SOME OF ITS SUCCESSES. PEOPLE IN MY DISTRICT NOTICED THAT. I WANT TO BUILD ON THE SUCCESSES WITH THIS REPORT. THAT IS MY MOTION. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA. MAY 21st, WE HAVE REVENUE AND FINANCE ON THE MIDYEAR REVIEW. WE HAVE THE LARGE DIGITAL SIGNS. IT IS GOING TO BE A REALLY -- WE'VE ALREADY GOT THREE PRESENTATIONS THAT DAY. COULD YOU DO A WRITTEN REPORT? >>LUIS VIERA: UNFORTUNATELY, NO. LOOK, WE HAVE RULES ON NUMBER OF REPORTS THAT WE CAN HAVE. I'M GETTING A LOT OF FEEDBACK FROM A LOT OF PEOPLE IN NEW TAMPA OVER THIS. BY THE WAY, THERE IS A CHANCE IF THIS GETS RESOLVED BEFORE AND WE FIND OUT WHAT IT IS, I WITHDRAW IT, RIGHT. BUT THIS IS SOMETHING VERY, VERY PRESSING THAT I'M GETTING A LOT OF FEEDBACK FROM NEW TAMPA ON, AND FOR ME, TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE ON THIS. BY THE WAY, WE CAN LIMIT TIME ON THIS, IF THAT IS A CHALLENGE, TO 15 MINUTES FROM BEGINNING TO END. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I'LL SECOND. WITH THE TIME LIMITATION OF 15 MINUTES. MAY 21st. THEN WE CLOSE THAT AGENDA TO NO MORE COMMENDATIONS, NO MORE STAFF REPORTS. >>LUIS VIERA: I'M GOOD WITH THAT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA. A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON FOR AS STATED HIS REQUEST FOR REPORT NO MORE THAN 15 MINUTES AND A CLOSED AGENDA AFTER THAT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT. >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, COUNCIL. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG. >>NAYA YOUNG: THANK YOU. I HAVE TWO MOTIONS AND THEN JUST A BRIEF COMMUNITY NOTE. I MOVE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR STAFF TO REVIEW THE APPLICATIONS FOR AN HONOREE BUILDING NAMED IN THE HONOR OF THE LATE MR. FRANK A. REDDICK AND COME BACK AND PRESENT TO COUNCIL ON JUNE 18, 2026. THE BUILDING IS LOCATED AT WILLIAMS PARK COMPLEX, 4362 EAST OSBORNE AVENUE. PLEASURE TO MAKE THIS MOTION IN HONOR OF MR. REDDICK'S LEGACY, DEDICATION, SERVICE, AND HIS CONSISTENT COMMITMENT TO IMPROVING THE LIVES OF THOSE IN THE TAMPA BAY COMMUNITY. I HAVE COMPLIED WITH TAMPA CITY COUNCIL RULES OF PROCEDURE NUMBER 7. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG. A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT. >>NAYA YOUNG: THANK YOU. WE'VE BEEN WORKING VERY HARD ON THIS TO MAKE SURE WE GOT THE APPLICATION RIGHT, EVERYTHING. I'M VERY EXCITED TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. SECOND, I MOVE TO MAKE A MOTION TO PRESENT A COMMENDATION ON JUNE 18, 2026, TO THE LADIES OF DELTA SIGMA THETA SORORITY INCORPORATED RECOGNIZING THEIR COMMITMENT TO SERVICE AND POLITICAL AWARENESS ON DELTA DAY AT CITY HALL. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IT IS OPEN. WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG. SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, AYE. OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT. >>NAYA YOUNG: MY LOVELY LEGISLATIVE AIDE IS A MEMBER OF THE DELTA SIGMA THETA SOCIETY. AND ALSO MY PREDECESSOR, MS. GWEN HENDERSON AS WELL. VERY EXCITED. ALSO JUST SOME COMMUNITY NOTES. I'M ALWAYS EVERYWHERE. IF YOU HAVE NOT VISITED, IF YOU LIVE IN THE EAST TAMPA AREA ON 30th, TGH COMMUNITY GARDEN IS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. AND THEY HAVE -- IT'S REALLY AWESOME. THEY HAVE CLASSES THERE FOR STUDENTS. THERE IS A FOOD PHARMACY. A PROGRAM THAT THEY WORK WITH THE DOCTORS AT TGH. IT IS REALLY, REALLY AWESOME. WE GOT TO GO AND TOUR. I ADVISE ANYONE, IF YOU ARE IN THE AREA, TO PLEASE GO AND VISIT. WE ALSO HAD THE JUST ELEMENTARY AND STUART MIDDLE SCHOOL GROUND BREAKING. THERE'S ALSO THE LAUNCH OF THE TAMPA TREASURE HUNT WAS AT RIVER FEST THIS WEEKEND. IF YOU GO TO TAMPA TREASURE HUNT, IT'S A WAY JUST FOR FAMILIES AND COMMUNITY TO GET OUT, WALK, BIKE, TAKE THE STREETCAR TO THE DIFFERENT BUSINESSES THAT HAVE TREASURE BOXES IN FRONT OF THEM AND THEY HAVE TREATS IN THEM. COOL WAY TO GET THE KIDS OUT. SOMETHING TO DO FOR SUMMER. I WAS ALSO KEYNOTE SPEAKER FOR THE DELTA SIGMA THETA SORORITY SCHOLARSHIP PROGRAM. OVER $68,000 IN SCHOLARSHIPS TO SOME AWESOME, AWESOME STUDENTS. I WAS LISTENING TO THEIR BIOS AND GOING TO SCHOOL FOR, WE'RE GOING TO BE OKAY, BECAUSE THEY WERE AWESOME. ALSO, THE RIDGEWOOD COMMUNITY NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, THEY JUST KIND OF REVIVED. WE HAD THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION MEETING AT ARMATURE WORKS. IT WAS AWESOME. ALSO, I GOT TO TOUR THE TAMPA FAMILY HEALTH CENTER AND THEY HAVE SOME REALLY AMAZING PROGRAMS THAT THEY ARE DOING AT TAMPA FAMILY HEALTH THAT IF YOU ARE A COMMUNITY MEMBER, PLEASE LOOK INTO IT, RESEARCH, TAKE ADVANTAGE. THAT'S IT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: REALLY GOOD SERVICES. >>LUIS VIERA: IT'S NOT A MOTION, COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG SAID ON GWENDOLYN HENDERSON, I DID WANTS TO NOTE, COMMUNITY TAMPA BAY POSTHUMOUSLY AWARDED THE LATE COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON SILVER MEDALLION AWARD. I WANTED TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT FOR GWEN'S LEGACY AND MEMORY. A LEGACY WELL DESERVED. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU. THANKS FOR MENTIONING THE TREASURE BOXES. WE'RE THINKING OF ONE OF MY EASY SUNDAY MORNING RIDES TO DO THAT. I'LL KEEP PEOPLE POSTED. FIRST OF ALL, TO GO BACK ON WHAT I PULLED TODAY, ITEM 39, I'M GOING TO ASK STAFF TO PROVIDE A WRITTEN REPORT EXPLAINING HOW MANY SPACES ARE LEFT IN HANNA AVENUE BUILDING THAT ARE NOT BEING USED AND THAT WILL REQUIRE ADDITIONAL FUNDS FOR THE BUILD-OUT BY JUNE 4. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT. >>LYNN HURTAK: THEN I WANTED TO JUST FLOAT THIS IDEA BY YOU BECAUSE WE'VE HAD QUITE A FEW PEOPLE COME TO US TO REALLY TAKE A LOOK AT THE RESOLUTION THAT THE GROUP SHOWED US THIS MORNING ABOUT ELECTRICAL RATES. I KNOW IT'S TECHNICALLY NOT A COUNCIL THING, BUT THIS IS LITERALLY WHAT I HEAR ABOUT CONSTANTLY WHEN I'M GOING THROUGH THE COMMUNITY. AT THIS POINT, MAYBE TAKING A LOOK AT THE RESOLUTION AND HAVING OUR COUNCIL TAKE A LOOK AT THE RESOLUTION AND MAYBE TALKING ABOUT IT DURING NEW BUSINESS OR RATHER OLD BUSINESS OR WHATEVER. YEAH, NEXT REGULAR MEETING, JUST TO SEE IF THIS IS EVEN SOMETHING WE WANT TO DO. IT'S SUCH A BIG ISSUE. I FEEL LIKE IF WE CAN ENCOURAGE OUR LEGISLATORS TO DO SOMETHING, OR AT LEAST SAY THAT WE ARE HEARING PEOPLE, WE UNDERSTAND THIS IS AN ISSUE. I KNOW WE CAN'T EFFECT IT, BUT I THINK THEIR STATEMENT TODAY WAS -- MADE A LOT OF SENSE. WE CAN ADVOCATE FOR THEM IN A WAY THEY CANNOT. >>BILL CARLSON: I JUST WANT TO SAY IN GENERAL, WE CAN'T TALK DURING PUBLIC COMMENT, BUT IF FOLKS GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE STORIES, THERE ARE MANY RESOLUTIONS THAT WE DID IN THE PAST THAT WE TRIED TO DO THINGS AND THE LEGISLATURE WOULD DO THE OPPOSITE OF IT. AND THERE ARE A -- I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THIS ORGANIZATION. THERE ARE A LOT OF ORGANIZATIONS WHERE PEOPLE GET BONUSES OR INCENTIVIZE TO GET RESOLUTIONS AND CHECK THE BOX IN ALL DIFFERENT PLACES. WHATEVER THE SUBJECT IS, I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF ANY RESOLUTION THAT IS NOT GOING TO GET ANYTHING DONE, ACTUALLY GOING TO DO THE OPPOSITE. IF WE ASK TALLAHASSEE TO DO SOMETHING, THEY'LL PROBABLY DO THE OPPOSITE OF IT. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: [INAUDIBLE] >>BILL CARLSON: IF YOU DO THAT THEN -- I'VE GOT TO GO TO ANOTHER MEETING. I'LL SEE YOU GUYS. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I THINK WE ALL HAVE OUR HEART IS THERE. WE TRY TO RESTRICT OUR ACTIVITIES. OUR SCHEDULES ARE SO FULL AND SO BIG. KIND OF OUTSIDE THE SCOPE OF WHAT WE DO AS COUNCIL. WHILE I APPRECIATE THE INTENT AND LIKE I SAY, WE ALL AGREE WITH YOU, BUT I'M KIND OF ON THE SAME SIDE AS COUNCILMAN CARLSON. COUNCILMAN MIRANDA. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I THINK WE CAN SOLVE ALL THOSE PROBLEMS TO SOME DEGREE AND YOU CAN HELP NATURE. DO A LOT OF THINGS. THAT'S WHY I TURN IN MY ELECTRIC BILL EVERY MONTH. THIS MONTH $16.39 I THINK IT WAS. IF WE HAVE SOME TYPE OF FUNDING MECHANISM, WITH THE NEIGHBORS, WITH THE ORGANIZATION, PUT THEM ON, THE CITY OF TAMPA ELECTRIC BILL GOING UP JUST LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE'S. HOWEVER OUR TOTAL COST OF THE YEAR WAS DOWN LIKE 3.5% BECAUSE OF THE SOLAR SYSTEMS WE PUT IN. THERE IS A PAY-OUT. I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT -- 19 YEARS. MINE IS PAID OUT AT 7.5 YEARS. IT'S TRUE I HAVE A HOUSE. I DON'T HAVE A TEN BEDROOM HOUSE. THREE BEDROOMS, TWO BATH. 1500 SQUARE FEET. INSTEAD OF GOING AFTER SOMEBODY TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM, HOW DO WE GET MONEY AND SOLVE TWO PROBLEMS. HELP NATURE AND HELP THE CITIZENS AT THE SAME TIME? WE HAVEN'T DONE THAT. UNDERSTAND THOSE THINGS TO COME ABOUT AND TELL US WHAT TO DO. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: FEDERAL GOVERNMENT USED TO HAVE PROGRAMS. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: USED TO HAVE. TOOK THEM OUT. STILL OPPORTUNITIES COMING AND WE OUGHT TO START LOOKING AT NOT WHAT WE HAVE TO DO, HOW DO WE SAVE LONG TERM AND DO TWO THINGS AT ONCE WITH ONE DOLLAR, NOT TWO DOLLARS. >>LUIS VIERA: I WOULDN'T BE AVERSE, AS WE LEARNED WITH THE FLOODING ASSISTANCE PROGRAM, MANAGING THIS IS VERY DIFFICULT. I'M BRINGING THIS UP, WHICH IS -- RATES ARE ONEROUS ON PEOPLE AND SO FORTH, PARTICULARLY WITHIN THE CRAs. JUST PUTTING THAT OUT THERE. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SOLAR THING. YOU'LL BRING IT UP. >>LUIS VIERA: ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN DO. WE SHOULD DO BECAUSE AGAIN PEOPLE ARE IN A HELL OF AN AFFORDABILITY CRISIS, WORKING CLASS, MIDDLE CLASS, WORKING POOR AND SO FORTH IN TAMPA AND FLORIDA, AND EVERYTHING WE CAN DO TO HELP THEM. COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK'S REMARKS AND SHE'S NOT EVEN ASKING FOR A MOTION RIGHT NOW. SHE'S JUST SAYING WHAT CAN WE DO ON THIS ISSUE AND I THINK THAT'S NOT A BAD QUESTION WITH TAX DOLLARS. >>NAYA YOUNG: TO COUNCILMAN VIERA AND MIRANDA, I'M WONDERING, CAN PART OF THE CONVERSATION BE, WE KNOW THERE ARE A LOT OF FEDERAL PROGRAMS THAT ARE BEING GUTTED. CAN PART OF THE CONVERSATION BE IF THERE IS A SOLUTION OR SOME KIND OF PROGRAM THAT COULD HELP PEOPLE HAVE MORE ACCESS TO SOLAR OR SOME KIND OF SOMETHING. ONE, I WANT TO COMMEND THE TWO YOUNG LADIES THAT CAME BECAUSE THEY ARE DOING THEIR DUE DILIGENCE AND THEY ARE SPEAKING OUT. I HAVE TO APPLAUD THEM FOR THAT. I RECOGNIZE THAT FROM THIS SEAT, WE CAN'T -- YOU KNOW, IT IS KIND OF OUT OF OUR HANDS BUT, YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN'T JUST MAYBE HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT AND JUST SEE WHAT IS THERE. YOU BRING UP WITH THE CRAs. WHAT IS THERE. WE KNOW WHAT WE CAN'T DO. IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WE CAN? >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT'S PART OF THE ISSUE. IT'S NOT EVEN SOLAR BECAUSE A LOT OF THE FOLKS I'M HEARING FROM, BECAUSE I'VE GONE TO A COUPLE OF MEETINGS WHERE PEOPLE TALKED ABOUT THIS, IT'S THEY LIVE IN A RENTAL. SO THEY CAN'T DO SOLAR. BUT NOW, I MEAN, THEY ARE COMING UP WITH SOLAR PANELS THAT YOU CAN HANG OFF OF BALCONIES AND ALL OF THIS STUFF. I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE CAN DO, BUT, AGAIN, I JUST KIND OF SITTING ON OUR HANDS DOESN'T FEEL RIGHT TO ME. I KNOW WE HAVE A RULE ABOUT IT, BUT SITTING ON THE HANDS JUST DOESN'T FEEL RIGHT WITH MY PART. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN VIERA WILL BE IN THE LEGISLATURE, THEY HAVE A BIGGER HAND. ANYBODY WANTS TO RUN FOR CONGRESS, THERE WE GO. >>LYNN HURTAK: BUT MY QUESTION IS, DO WE WANT -- IS THIS SOMETHING WE WANT TO BRING FORWARD OR NOT? I HEARD TWO NOES, BUT DIDN'T HEAR ANY OTHER NOES, AND I DIDN'T HEAR YESES. OKAY, WE'LL THINK ABOUT IT AND COME BACK. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WISH A HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO TONYA WHO DOES SO MUCH IN OUR OFFICE. IT'S NOT TODAY, BUT I THINK -- >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WOULD SING HER HAPPY BIRTHDAY BUT I DON'T THINK SHE WOULD LISTEN TO THIS. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AND HAPPY MOTHER'S DAY TO ALL THE SPECIAL MOMS IN MY LIFE. I HAVE MY WIFE VALERIE, MY SISTER, MY MOM LISA, MY LEGISLATIVE AIDE, MY TWO MOTHER-IN-LAWS, BECAUSE I HAVE A STEP MOTHER-IN-LAW, AND SULING. HAPPY MOTHER'S DAY. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I NEVER GOT A HAPPY FATHER'S DAY FROM YOU. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: BEAT THAT, MIRANDA. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I JUST DID. ELECTRIC BILL CITY OF TAMPA IS A LITTLE OVER $70,000 A DAY. I'D LOVE TO SEND SOMETHING TO THE LEGISLATURE, BUT HOW I SOLVE IT? I DON'T HAVE THE POWER TO SOLVE IT. IT IS WHAT IT IS. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: LET ME HAND THE GAVEL OVER HERE. PSTA HAS REQUESTED TEN MINUTES TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON THE STATUS OF THE FERRY AND THANK COUNCIL AND MAYOR FOR THEIR COMMITMENT AND SUPPORT. MOTION TO ALLOW THE PSTA TO MAKE A TEN MINUTE PRESENTATION UPDATE FERRY ON JULY 16, 2026. >>LYNN HURTAK: ISN'T THAT THE DAY THAT THEY PRESENT THE BUDGET? >>ALAN CLENDENIN: TEN MINUTES IN THE MORNING. WE ONLY HAVE POLICE OFFICERS. >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT'S NOT ON THE CALENDAR YET. >>LYNN HURTAK: CAN WE GO FOR FIVE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: FIVE MINUTES? >>LYNN HURTAK: YES. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I'LL ASK THEM TO DO FIVE MINUTES. >>LYNN HURTAK: IT WILL TURN INTO TEN. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ASK TO DO FIVE MINUTES. >>LYNN HURTAK: MOTION FROM CHAIR CLENDENIN. SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HENCE WHAT WE'RE TRYING WITH THE AGENDA, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE AMEND COUNCIL RULES TO NO MORE THAN THREE VERBAL STAFF REPORTS PER AGENDA. INSTEAD OF THE FIVE. LEAVE WHAT'S ALREADY EXISTING, BUT IN ADDITION, LIMIT TO THREE VERBAL. >>LYNN HURTAK: I WOULD REALLY RATHER LIMIT THE STUFF ON THE CONSENT AGENDA BECAUSE THAT TO ME IS MORE IN-DEPTH. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT REQUIRES A LOT OF BEHIND-THE-SCENES WORK FOR US. >>LYNN HURTAK: 119 ITEMS IS JUST RIDICULOUS. I COULDN'T READ EVERYTHING. AND THAT'S THE BACKGROUND. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I'M TRYING TO THESE LONG DRAWN-OUT MEETING. >>LYNN HURTAK: THIS IS NOT A LONG, DRAWN-OUT MEETING. WE GOT OUT OF HERE BY 5. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: BARELY. WE ONLY HAD THREE STAFF REPORTS TODAY. >>LYNN HURTAK: I CAN'T SUPPORT THAT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION TO AMEND COUNCIL RULES TO NO MORE THAN THREE VERBAL STAFF REPORTS PER MEETING. >>LYNN HURTAK: WHICH MEANS WE ARE PUSHING THINGS FURTHER AND FURTHER. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NO, NOT VERBAL STAFF REPORTS. YOU CAN HAVE WRITTEN STAFF REPORTS. >>LYNN HURTAK: THE WHOLE POINT IS PEOPLE WANT TO HEAR US, WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT. IF YOU WANT A STAFF REPORT, IT SHOULD BE SOMETHING WE'RE ALL DISCUSSING. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I THINK WE HAVE WAY TOO MANY VERBAL STAFF REPORTS. WHY DON'T WE TRY THREE -- >>LUIS VIERA: HOW ABOUT WE LIMIT TIME FOR REAL ON STAFF REPORTS BECAUSE THAT'S KIND OF THE CHALLENGE SOMETIMES, AND MAYBE YOU CAN CONSIDER NO MORE THAN 20 MINUTES. AND IF YOU GO OVER THAT -- >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ALREADY ONLY SUPPOSED TO BE -- >>LUIS VIERA: WHEN I SAY ENFORCEMENT, I SAY I KNOW IT'S HARD TO ENFORCE THAT. ONCE YOU GO PAST 20 MINUTES, YOU NEED A SUPERMAJORITY TO GET PAST IT SO IT'S NOT JUST ON THE CHAIRMAN. JUST AN IDEA. >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT'S NOT A BAD IDEA. I THINK YOU SHOULD BRING THIS BACK. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: STAFF REPORTS ALREADY LIMITED TO FIVE MINUTES. >>LYNN HURTAK: I CAN'T SUPPORT LIMITING STAFF REPORTS. JUST CAN'T DO IT ANYMORE. I THINK WHAT WE HAVE IS GOD. I THINK WE NEED TO LIMIT -- I THINK WHAT WE HAVE IS GOOD. TO ME, THE CONSENT STUFF THAT'S REALLY OVERWHELMING. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I SAW AN ANALYSIS OF THE CONSENT BECAUSE I PUSH BACK ON THE AGENDA. THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS WERE REALLY JUST THE BASIC FUNCTIONS OF THE CITY. IF WE PARSED OUT -- I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU WOULD DELAY OR NOT. >>LYNN HURTAK: THE ISSUE IS, I HAVE TO GO THROUGH 20 -- I MEAN, I HAD OVER 24 QUESTIONS ON MY PREP MEETING AND I DIDN'T GET HALF OF THEM ANSWERED. I'M RUNNING BACK AND FORTH ON WEDNESDAY TRYING TO GET MY ANSWERS. IT'S JUST TOO MUCH TO TAKE IN. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I'M NOT HEARING ANY SUPPORT FOR LIMITING IT, BUT I'M GOING TO START ENFORCING THE FIVE MINUTES BECAUSE THAT IS A RULE. I'LL RECOGNIZE OUR WONDERFUL BUDGET ANALYST BECAUSE SHE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE ONE MINUTE OF DISCUSSION. >> HAGAR KOPESKY, CITY COUNCIL BUDGET ANALYST. LITTLE BIT TIMELY HERE. I THINK, I HOPE MOST OF YOU SAW AN E-MAIL I SENT THROUGH. TODAY IS A LONG DAY, YOU MAY NOT HAVE. BASICALLY THE SYNOPSIS WAS THAT THEY ARE WORKING TO STRIVE TO HIT THE GMP TIMING FOR JUNE FOR THE FIRE STATION 24, AND IN PARTICIPATING IN A PROJECT MEETING LAST WEEK, I REALIZED THAT THE UNDERLYING INFRASTRUCTURE, I.E., ELECTRICAL, SUPPORT ON A ROOF, THINGS THAT ARE NECESSARY TO READY A FACILITY FOR SOLAR IS NOT IN THE PLAN. NOW, IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING AND THE ONLY REASON I'M BRINGING THIS TO YOU IS SIMPLY BECAUSE OF TIMING, TO MAKE SURE THAT WHAT YOU BELIEVE IS HAPPENING IS CLEAR. I WAS UNDER THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THE ACTUAL SOLAR PANELS WOULD COME AT A LATER TIME BUT THE UNDERLYING INFRASTRUCTURE TO READY THE FACILITY WOULD BE PART OF THE BUILDING OPENING. THAT IS NOT CURRENTLY THE CASE. I NEED TO BRING THIS TO YOU BECAUSE IF THERE IS A DESIRE TO MOVE IN THAT DIRECTION, WE WOULD NEED TO REQUEST ADMINISTRATION TO ASK THE PROJECT TEAM TO BRING THAT BACK IN -- >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN VIERA. >>LUIS VIERA: WE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE AND LOOKED AT IT. IT WOULD PROBABLY COST MORE MONEY TO DO THAT, CORRECT? >>HAGAR KOPESKY: I KNOW IT WOULD COST SOMETHING. I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT WOULD BE. >>LUIS VIERA: I'M NOT GOING TO -- THAT'S JUST NOT MY THING. SOMEBODY ELSE WANTS TO MOVE FOR IT, SURE. NOT MY BAG. >>HAGAR KOPESKY: I UNDERSTAND. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHAT SHE'S SAYING, INITIALLY IN OUR DISCUSSION ABOUT THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE FIRE STATION, IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE PREPPED FOR SOLAR PANEL INSTALLATION. RIGHT NOW, AS WE'RE WORKING TOWARDS GETTING THE GROSS MAXIMUM PRICE, WE KNEW THAT THE PANELS WOULDN'T BE THERE BUT WE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE FITTED SO WE COULD EVENTUALLY RETROFIT IT WITH SOLAR PANELS. THE INFRASTRUCTURE TO DO THE RETROFITTING IS NOT THERE. THERE'S NO ACCOMMODATION FOR SOLAR. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IF MY HOUSE CAN HAVE SOLAR, SO CAN A FIRE STATION. >>LYNN HURTAK: I'M GOING TO AGREE WITH HIM. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I DON'T WANT TO HEAR EXCUSES. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HIS HOUSE IS FROM 1968. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: BEFORE. ABOUT 1959 OR '60. I HAVEN'T TOUCHED NO RAFTERS. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CAN I SUGGEST THEY COME BACK AND REPORT TO US. >>LYNN HURTAK: I THOUGHT THE RULE WAS NEW BUILDINGS HAD TO. >>HAGAR KOPESKY: NOT SURE ABOUT THAT. THE REASON I WANT TO MAKE THIS CLEAR, WE'RE KIND OF RUNNING OUT OF TIME IN THE SENSE THAT JUNE IS WHEN THEY WILL ACTUALLY PRESENT WITH YOU A GMP. THAT SAID I THINK IT WOULD REQUIRE IS THEM GOING BACK TO THE CONSTRUCTION TEAM AND SIMPLY SAYING TO GET THE ELECTRICAL AND WHAT WOULD THAT BE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ASSIGN COUNCILMAN VIERA TO DO THAT COORDINATION. >>LUIS VIERA: THAT'S NOT -- >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: [INAUDIBLE] >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA FOR THE ADMINISTRATION TO PROVIDE A WRITTEN REPORT ON MAY 17 -- SORRY, MAY 21st, 2026 ON THE STATUS OF SOLAR INSTALLATION PREP FOR THE FIRE STATION. >>HAGAR KOPESKY: I WOULD SAY THE ADDITIONAL COST TO HAVE SOMETHING TO BASE THE DECISION ON. I'M TELLING YOU WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR, WHICH IT'S NOT IN THERE. YOU NEED SOMETHING ADDITIONAL. SORRY, THAT CAME OUT WRONG. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: GOT IT. >>MARTIN SHELBY: BESIDES COST, THERE'S ALSO THE SENSE OF TIME, THAT IF YOU ARE ASKING FOR THAT, AND THAT'S NOT IN THERE AND SOMEBODY IS ALREADY DRAFTING UP PLANS, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET A GMP BY JUNE OR WILL YOU. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: LET'S GET THE STATUS REPORT. MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE. >>LYNN HURTAK: NO, NO, WE NEED TO VOTE ON THAT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ALWAYS THOSE IN FAVOR, AYE. OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT. MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE. MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE, SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, AYE. OPPOSED. AYES HAVE IT. [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]