MEETING. >> STAY TUNED, CITY COUNCIL IS COMING UP NEXT ON GOV-TV. >> IF YOU NEED HELP ACCESSING OR FINDING A PARTICULAR MEETING STAFF IS HERE TO HELP. CALL THEM 768-3100. OUR COUNCIL IS ACCEPTING LIVE GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT TODAY. AS WELL AS WRITTEN COMMENTS. WRITTEN COMMENTS THAT WERE RECEIVED BY 1:00 TODAY WERE DISTRIBUTED TO COUNCILORS IN ADVANCE AS WELL AS ANY COMMENTS PROVIDED TO THE COUNCILORS INDIVIDUAL WEBSITES. TODAY WE'LL BEGIN WITH PROCLAMATIONS AND PRESENTATIONS. WE HAVE THREE AND THEN MOVE TO GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. WE BEGIN WITH COUNCILOR FROM THE FIRST DISTRICT ON THE WESTSIDE. COUNCILOR SENA. >> Coun. Sena: THANK YOU. >> APPROXIMATELY 40,000 TREATMENT ARE IN ACTIVE TREATMENT IN THE U.S. AT ANY GIVEN AND 20% OF CHILDREN WITH CANCER IN THE U.S. WILL NOT SURVIVE IT. APPROXIMATELY 1/2 OF CHILDREN CHILDHOOD CANCER FAMILIES RATE OF ASSOCIATED DUE TO OUT OF POCKET EXPENSES ARE CONSIDER TO SEVERE AND IN THE LAST 20 YEARS ONLY FOUR NEW DRUGS HAVE BEEN APPROVED BY FDA TO SPECIFICALLY TREAT CHILDHOOD CANCER AND EVERY THREE MINUTES SOMEONE IN THE U.S. WILL BE DIAGNOSED WITH A TYPE OF BLOOD CANCER AND APPROXIMATELY EVERY NINE MINUTES BLOOD CANCER PATIENT DIES AND ACCORDING TO THE LEUKEMIA SOCIETY, NEW CASES OF BLOOD CANCERS ARE EXPECTED TO ACCOUNT FOR NEARLY 10% OF THE NEARLY TWO MILLION NEW CANCER CASES IN THE U.S. IN 2020. EVERY YEAR, NEARLY 14,000 PEOPLE ARE SEARCHING FOR A BONE MARROW DONOR. 55% OF THE LATINO PATIENTS LOOKING FOR A MATCH CANNOT FIND A DONOR, 60% OF ASIAN AMERICAN AND 75% OF AFRICAN AMERICAN PATIENTS CANNOT FIND DONORS. OF A OF THOSE SEARCHING FOR BONE MARROW DONORS OFTEN THEIR ONLY OPTION AND THEY WILL PASS AWAY. U.S. MADE GREAT STRIDES IN ONGOING MEDICAL ADVANCES IN RESEARCH, TREATMENT, FIVE YEAR SURVIVAL RATE FOR ALL CHILDHOOD CANCERS HAS CLIMBED FROM 50 TO 80%. WHEREAS THE FIVE YEAR RELATIVE SURVIVAL RATE FOR LEUKEMIA HAS MORE THAN QUADRUPLED FROM 2009 TO 2015. Q. MEDICAL TREATMENT CONTINUES TO SEEK NEW THERAPIES AND EVALUATE THE REAL CAUSE OF DISEASE, STRIVING FOR A WORLD FREE OF BLOOD CANCERS AND A WORLD WHERE NO CHILD EXPERIENCES CANNER AND HUNDREDS OF NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS AT THE NATIONAL AND LOCAL DEVELOP INCLUDING AMERICAN SOCIETY ARE HELPING CHILDREN WITH CANCER AS WELL AS BLOOD CANCER PATIENTS AND FAMILIES AS THEY NAVIGATE THE CANCER JOURNEY. TOO MANY FAMILIES ARE AFFECTED BY THIS DISEASE AND MORE MUST BE DONE TO RAISE AWARENESS AND GET ON TO A WORLD FREE OF CANCER. IT IS PROCLAIMED THAT THE COUNCIL, GOVERNING BODY OF THE CITY, HEREBY RECOGNIZES SEPTEMBER AS CHILDHOOD AND BLOOD CANCER AWARENESS MONTH AND JOINS EFFORT IN RAISING AWARENESS TO GET A WORLD FREE OF CANCER. >> Coun. Davis: THANK YOU. I UNDERSTAND YOU HAVE GUESTS HERE. I SEE A FEW OF THEM POPPING UP ON MY SCREEN. >> Coun. Sena: IT IS REALLY MY HONOR AND PRIVILEGE TO INTRODUCE ARIANA RYAN, NICHOLE AND THEY ARE FAMILY. THEY ARE -- I AM A BIT STAR STRUCK AS YOU HAVE SEEN HER IN MANY OF YOUR -- SHE IS AN AMAZING SURVIVOR AND RECOGNIZING HER AS BEING AN AMAZING PERSON. AND MS. TRUJILLO WITH AMERICAN CANCER SOCIETY. IS THERE ANYTHING THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SAY? >> Coun. Davis: THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. WE APPRECIATE COMING TO YOUR PLATFORM TODAY. OBVIOUSLY ONE WAY TO GET MORE MONEY FOR PEDIATRIC CANCERS AND MORE TREATMENTS IS JUST GETTING THE WORD OUT. WE HOPE THAT WILL HELP BY BEING HERE. WE APPRECIATE THE PROCLAMATION. TO GO ALONG WITH THE FACTOR FIGURE YOU PROVIDED, WITH THE THREE NEW DRUGS IN ABOUT 20 YEARS FOR CHILDREN, IN THAT SAME TIME FRAME, THERE HAS BEEN CLOSE TO 200 FOR ADULT. OBVIOUSLY THAT PERCENTAGE TEAMS A LITTLE BIT SKEWED, I GUESS YOU COULD SAY. TO ME, MY DAUGHTER IS WORTH MORE THAN ONLY THREE NEW DRUGS OR FOUR NEW DRUGS IN THE LAST 20 YEARS SO THAT ABOUT FOR% OF ALL MONEY THAT GOES TOWARDS CANCERS TRICKLES DOWN TO CHILDHOOD. SO, I'LL STOP NOW AND LET AUDIE TALK. >> I AM AUDIE. I WAS DIAGNOSED WITH CANCER WHEN I WAS FIVE. I GOT VERY SICK FROM THE MEDICINES THEY GAVE ME. I LOST MY HAIR AND I WAS VERY SCARED THAT PEOPLE WOULDN'T LIKE ME. BUT I MET A LOT NEW FRIENDS IN THE HOSPITAL WHEN I HAD CANCER AND SO I HAVE PAIN AND GET TIRED SOMETIMES. THANK YOU. >> FIVE MORE SECONDS, I DO JUST WANT TO SAY, THERE ARE ORGANIZATIONS OUT THERE THAT DO HELP AND I JUST WANT TO RECOGNIZE THEM IF AT ALL POSSIBLE. THE CHILDREN'S CANCER FUND OF NEW MEXICO IS A LOCAL ORGANIZATION. THEY HAVE DONE A LOT TO ASSIST US THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS, EVEN PROVIDING GAS MONEY FOR TRIPS TO THE HOSPITAL OR WHEN SHE GETS POKED, PROVIDING HER WITH A TOY AND IT GOT TO THE POINT WHERE SHE WAS EVEN EXCITED TO GO SOMETIMES. CHILDREN'S MIRACLE NETWORK, YOU MAY HAVE SEEN MY DAUGHTER IN MANY LOCATIONS, WAL-MART, SAM'S AND SHE'LL AB IN SPEEDWAYS SOON AND MAKE A WISH AND ALL HAVE BEEN INSTRUMENTAL IN ASSISTING US AS WE HAVE FINISHED TREATMENT AS WE GO FORWARD IN LIFE. SO, THANK TO YOU THEM AND THANK YOU AGAIN TO ALL OF YOU FOR HAVING US TODAY. >> Coun. Sena: CAN I RECOGNIZE MS. TRUJILLO? >> TRUJILLO: I AM THE MANAGER FOR NEW MEXICO'S CHAPTER OF THE AMERICAN SOCIETY CANCER, CANCER ACTION NETWORK. I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU CITY COUNCIL FOR ALWAYS BEING ADVOCATE FOR CANCER PATIENTS SURVIVORS AND FAMILY AND FOR BRINGING AWARENESS TO BLOOD CANCERS AND REMEMBERING CANCER'S YOUNGEST PATIENTS. THE AMERICAN CANCER SOCIETY AND ADVOCATES ARE URGING OFFICIALS AT ALL LEVELS TO PRIORITIZE CANCER FIGHTING POLICIES. AND, ACTUALLY RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE TWO PRIORITIES THAT ARE DIRECTLY LINKED TO CHILDHOOD CANCER. FIRST WE ARE SUPPORTING THE SENATE PASSAGE OF HOSPICE EDUCATION TRAINING ACT. THIS FACILITY STATES ACCESS TO PALLIATIVE CARE AND MANAGEMENT FOR CANCER PATIENTS AND SURVIVORS. WE ALSO SUPPORT CONTINUED IMPLEMENTATION OF CANCER CHILDHOOD CANCER STAR ACT AND THIS ADVOCATES FOR ADVANCES IN PEDIATRIC CANCER RESEARCH, AND INCREASES IN TRANSPARENCY FOR PEDIATRIC CANCER RESEARCH AT THE NATIONAL INSTITUTE OF HEALTH. I WILL ADD THAT NATIONWIDE ESTIMATE OF 11,CHILDREN UNDER AGE OF 15 WILL BE DIAGNOSED WITH CANCER IN THIS YEAR ALONE. AFTER ACCIDENTS CANCER IS THE SECOND LEADING CAUSE OF DEATH IN CHILDREN AGES 1 TO 14 AND SO, AS CAN YOU IMAGINE, AMERICAN CANCER SOCIETY IS COMMITTED TO DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN FOR CANCER PATIENTS AND THEIR FAMILIES. AS OF MARCH, 2020, AMERICAN CANCER SOCIETY HAS OVER 34 MILLION IN CHILDHOOD CANCER GRANTS IN EFFECT. SO WE ARE CONTINUING TO ADVOCATE FOR INCREASES IN CANCER RESEARCH FUNDING AS WELL AS INCREASING ACCESS TO CARE. SO, AGAIN, MAKE YOU FOR ALLOWING AMERICAN CANCER SOCIETY, CANCER ACTION NETWORK TO BE A PART OF THIS AND BRINGING THIS FORWARD. >> Coun. Sena: I DO REALLY APPRECIATE BOTH ARIANA'S FAMILY AND AMERICAN CANCER SOCIETY. THIS TOPIC ESPECIALLY BLOOD CANCER IS NEAR AND DEAR TO MY HEART AS I WAS DIAGNOSED WITH 2011 WITH A TYPE OF CANCER. AND WEDNESDAY IS MY 29TH CYCLE OF CHEMO CHAIRPY. I CONTINUE TO HAVE TREATMENT BECAUSE DID I NOT HAVE A BONE MARROW DONOR AND EVEN OUR PRESIDENT EVEN SWABBED TO SEE IF HE COULD BE ADOWNOR. I AM THINKING OF WHAT MORE CAN WE DO TO GET AWARENESS OUT AND HELPING OUR BLAHED CANCER PATIENTS AND PEDIATRIC ONCOLOGY PATIENTS BECAUSE WE CERTAINLY DON'T WANT TO SEE ANYONE BATTLE CANCER AS WE CERTAINLY DON'T WANT TO SEE CHILDREN AFFECTED BY THIS DID THIS DISEASE. I HOPE THAT SHE REMAINS IN REMISING. THIS OF COURSE I DO WANT TO JUST TALK BRIEFLY ABOUT HOW WE CAN ALL BE CONTRIBUTING IN JUST GETTING AWARENESS OUT. TO BECOME ADOWNOR, YOU SWAB YOUR CHEEK. YOU CAN ASLY ASK TO BE A MATCH. FOR THOSE INTERESTED, YOU HAVE TO BE BETWEEN 18 TO 45. SO, I DO WANT TO REACH OUT TO OUR COMMUNITY AND LET YOU KNOW WHAT WE CAN DO TO GET TO A WORLD FREE OF CANCER. THANK YOU FOR RECOGNIZING THIS PROCLAMATION AND OUR BRAVE WARRIORS OUT THERE. >> Coun. Davis: THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT. >> Coun. Borrego: I JUST HAD A QUICK COMMENT. THANK I FOR BRINGING THIS TO LIGHT. I WANTED TO TALK TO ARIANNA AND TELL HER THAT SHE IS A LITTLE SUPER STAR AND I KNOW COUNCILOR ZNA HAS HAD CANCER AND I AM ALSO A CANCER SURVIVOR AND I HAVE BEEN FOR MANY, MANY YEARS, ABOUT 40 YEARS ACTUALLY. AND, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN GO ONTO DO AMAZING THINGS AND IT SOUNDS YOU ALREADY HAVE. SO, I JUST WANT YOU TO CONTINUE TO BE A SUPER STAR. GOD BLESS YOU. >> ARIANNA: THANK YOU. >> Coun. Davis: THANKS FOR DOING WHAT YOU'RE DOING. YOU HAVE INCREDIBLE EXPERIENCE AND YOU COULD BE DOING A LOT OF OTHER MORE FUN THINGS BUT I HAVE SEEN YOU AT COSTCO. I MET COUNCILOR S ENA WHEN SHE WAS RECRUITING FOLKS TO SWAB. WHEREVER IT NEEDED TO BE TO GET IT DONE. THANK YOU FOR TALKING ABOUT THIS. WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT IT A LOT BUT MY FAMILY DISCOVERED A DECADE AGO THAT WE HAD A HEREDITARY BLOOD CANCER. IT HASN'T AFFECTED CHILDREN BUT IMPACTS ADULTS AT MY AGE. SO IT IS VERY PERSONAL TO GET THIS RIGHT. TO ALL OF YOU WHO HAVE GONE THROUGH THIS AND WORKED ON IT, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL OF THOSE AND ALL OF US WHO DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT. NOW WE CAN LEARN MORE AND CAN HELP OTHER FOLKS HOPEFULLY SURVIVE AND LEARN MORE. GOOD TO SEE YOU ALL. >> A VERY SPECIAL PROCLAMATION FOR A SPECIAL GENTLEMAN FROM THE CITY WHO HAS BEEN TO A LOT OF MEETINGS THAT WEREN'T SO MUCH FUN. >> Coun. Jones: YES, THIS IS FOR RUSSELL. GOOD TO SEE YOU. NICE TO SEE YOU RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SCREEN. THAT IS APPROPRIATE. RUSSELL RETIRED FROM THE CITY, CAN'T BELIEVE YOU WOULD GIVE THIS UP AFTER ALL THESE YEARS. WORKING ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND ZONING CODE AND IDO. RUSSELL BITO DEVOTED 25 YEARS OF CAREER TO SERVING THE PUBLIC AND CITY PLANNING DEPARTMENT. WHEREAS RUSSELL HAS SERVED UNDER SIX MAYOR'S, EIGHT PLAQUE DIRECTORS AND DOZENS OF COMMISSIONERS. RUSSELL HAS BEEN THE FULL CRUM OF REASON BETWEEN NEIGHBORHOODS, STAFFS FROM MULTIPLE DEPARTMENTS AND THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY HELPING TO FIND COMMON SENSE APPROACHES TO BALANCING PROTECTION AND DEVELOPER RIGHTS IN WAYS THAT ARE FEASIBLE AND EFFECTIVE. RUSSELL WAS INVOLVED IN DOZENS OF SECTOR PLAN ADOPTIONS ACROSS EVERY CITY COUNCIL DISTRICT AND HAS SHED MORE SWEAT AND TEARS INTO PLANNING DOCUMENTS IN THE CITY THAN ANY ONE PLANNER IN THE CITY'S HISTORY. HE HAS ALWAYS BEEN A FRIEND TO COUNCIL AND A RELIABLE HONEST STAFF MEMBER WHEN CONSTITUENT CONCERNS PRESENTED THEMSELVES. HIS LONG HAIR AND TOOTY GRIN WILL BE MISSED BY CITY STAFF AND COUNCILORS. BE IT PROCLAIMED THE COUNCIL, GOVERNING BODY OF THE CITY HEREBY TAKES RUSSELL FOR HIS 25 YEARS OF SERVICE TO THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE. THANK YOU RUSSELL. >> Coun. Davis: I THINK YOU HAVE OTHER GUESTS THAT ARE HERE TO SPEAK TO MR. BITO. I'LL LET YOU MANAGE THE FLOOR. >> Coun. Jones: I DON'T HAVE A LIST PERHAPS WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO THAT. >> Coun. Davis: I SEE MS. MORRIS WHO IS HERE TO SPEAK QUICKLY. >> MORRIS: A BIG THANK YOU TO RUSSELL FOR MANY YEARS OF HARD WORK AND SERVICE AND BEING A REAL INSPIRATION. RUSSELL WAS INTERN WHEN SHE WAS WORKING WITH PLANNING DEPARTMENT. WHEN I INTERNED, I INTERNED WITH BOTH ACTUALLY CYNTHIA AND RUSSELL AND SO IT IS A PRETTY CLOSE KNIT FAMILY IN THE WORLD OF PLANNING AND WE APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT RUSSELL AS DONE. I DO THINGS THE WAY RUSSELL HAS TAUGHT ME AND THOUGHT ABOUT THINGS SO I APPRECIATE THAT. >> Coun. Davis: THANK YOU. I SEE IN LINE IS COUNCILLOR BENTON AND THEN COUNCILOR BORREGO. >> Coun. Benton: I STARTED MY ARCHITECTURE FIRM AND I WORKED FOR MANY FIRMS BUT STARTED MY OWN IN THE EARLY 90'S. I THINK MY WHOLE ARCHITECT CAREER RUSSELL WAS THERE AND THEN ALL THIS TIME ON THE CITY COUNCIL, YOU KNOW, AS COUNCILOR JONES SAID, HE WAS STEADY HONEST STRAIGHT ANSWER ON ANY GIVEN TOPIC AND HE WAS A GUY I FELT I COULD GO ASK QUESTIONS AND GET A STRAIGHT ANSWER. SO, HE WILL BE MISSED. BUT, I THINK AGAIN AS WAS STATED, LEFT A GREAT LEGACY OF WORK, RUSSELL, AND I THINK A LOT OF RESPECT THROUGHOUT THE CITY. >> Coun. Borrego: I JUST WANTED TO SAY AND IT IS HARD TO REMEMBER HOW MANY YEARS AGO THAT WAS BUT I WAS ON THE COMMITTEE THAT HIRED RUSSELL AS INTERN IN THE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY UNDER MS. RICH. SHE WAS DIVISION MANAGER AND RUSSELL CAME IN AND I REMEMBER HE USED TO HAVE KIND OF SIT AT THE FRONT DESK BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH OFFICES FOR ALL INTERNS. AS WE BOTH MOVED ON IN OUR CAREERS, I WORKED WITH HIM IN THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND HE WAS ALWAYS VERY THOUGHTFUL AND ALWAYS VERY PROFESSIONAL. AND THEN HE WENT ONTO BECOME A DIVISION MANAGER WHICH WAS PROUD OF HIM BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IT IS KIND OF LIKE WATCHING YOUR CHILD GROW UP, YOU KNOW, AND RUSSELL HAS ALWAYS BEEN A GOOD RESOURCE FOR ALL OF US IN TERMS OF LAND USE AND ISSUES THAT WERE DETAILED AND CONTROVERSIAL SOMETIMES. RUSSELL, I JUST WISH YOU WELL. I REMEMBER WHEN YOU GOT MARRIED AND I THINK JUST SO MANY THINGS ABOUT YOU AND IT IS REALLY NICE TO SEE YOU MOVING ON INTO YOUR NEXT JOURNEY. >> Coun. Jones: I DO SEE WE ARE LOOKING 59 BUDGET CONFERENCE ROOM AND WE HAVE PEOPLE IN THERE FROM PLANNING WHO MIGHT LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING. THEY KNOW EVERYTHING ABOUT RUSSELL AND MIGHT WANT TO ENTERTAIN US BY EMBARRASSING HIM A LITTLE BIT. >> THANK YOU. IF ANYBODY IS GOING TO BE EMBARRASSED IT WILL BE ME BECAUSE I WILL BEGIN TO OPENLY WEEP AS HUSTLE RIDES OFF INTO THE SUNSET. I CAN TELL YOU IN MY ENTIRE CAREER I HAVE NEVER MET ANYBODY AS COLLABORATIVE, AS CALM, AND AS KNOWLEDGEABLE AS RUSSELL IS. QUESTION I WAS WITH CODE ENFORCEMENT, THERE WERE MANY AN ISSUE, MANY A PROJECT THAT I WOULD GO TO RUSSELL AND WE WOULD WORK TOGETHER TO TRY AND COME UP WITH A SOLUTION AND INTERPRETATION IN SOME CASES AND HE WAS ALWAYS VERY HELPFUL AND REALLY BENEFITED NOT ONLY THE DEPARTMENT BUT THE ENTIRE CITY. I WAS CORRECTING WITH SOME OF THE FOLKS HERE IN THE CONFERENCE ROOM EARLIER THAT IF ANY TIME THERE IS A PROBLEM THAT COLLS UP, MY FIRST REACTION IS TO CONTACT RUSSELL. IT HAPPENED IN 1987 BUT HE IS SO SHARP THAT HE WILL REMEMBER IT OR KNOW WHO TO TALK TO OR HE'LL KNOW THE FILEIF I NUMBER. THE ENTIRE CITY IS AT A LAST. THOSE ARE SHOES THAT CAN NEVER BE FILLED BUT I AM SO PROUD OF RUSSELL AND ALL HE HAS ACCOMPLISHED AND WISH HIM NOTHING BUT THE BEST. >> Coun. Davis: YOU HAVE ORPHANS THERE RUSSELL. I WANT TO GIVE YOU THE CHANCE TO TAKE THE FLOOR AND SAY WHATEVER YOU WANT BEFORE YOU BAIL OUT. >> BITO: THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THIS RECOGNITION AND ALL THE KIND WORDS THAT WERE SPOKEN TODAY. MY CAREER WITH THE CITY HAS BEEN EXTREMELY REWARDING AND FULFILLING AND I JUST WANT TO SAY, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC SERVICE IS MORE THAN JUST BEING A COMPETENT BUREAUCRAT WHO FOLLOWS RULES AND REGULATIONS. MY TENURE WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT HAS INVOLVED ME WITH MANY EXCITING AND WORTHWHILE PROJECTS AND THEN SOMETIMES ONE GETS TO BE INVOLVED WITH A ONCE IN A CAREER PROJECT THAT ADDRESSES THE CITY AS A WHOLE AND EVERY ONE OF ITS 500,000 RESIDENTS AND THE ABC TO Z PROJECT WAS JUST SUCH A PROJECT FOR ME. IT WAS THE BIG DEAL OF MY PROFESSIONAL CAREER WITH THE CITY. I AM PROUD TO HAVE BEEN PART OF THE ABC TO Z TEAM WHICH INCLUDED NOT ONLY CITY STAFF BUT ALSO ELECTED OFFICIALS SUCH AS YOURSELVES AND THOUSANDS OF RESIDENTS AND OTHER STAKEHOLDERS WHO PARTICIPATED IN THE THIS THREE YEAR LONG PROJECT AND NOW THE NEW PLANNING SYSTEM'S BUILT IN PROCESSES FOR UPDATE AND GREAT JOB LAST WEEK AND NEXT YEAR'S LONG RANGE COMMUNITY PLANNING AREA ASSESSMENTS PROVIDE RESIDENTS AND STAKEHOLDER GROUPS NEW OPPORTUNITIES TO VOICE THEIR HAND USE AND TRANSPORTATION CONCERNS FOR ANALYSIS AND RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE DECISION MAKERS. SO, AS WE GO FORWARD THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR NOW HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO RECEIVE ONGOING AND REGULAR INPUT FROM BOTH LONG TIME AND HOPEFULLY A LOT OF BRAND NEW PARTICIPANTS ABOUT COMMUNITY ISSUES THAT AFFECT THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS, THEIR LIVELIHOOD, AND THEIR FAMILIES. FINALLY, AS IT IS FOR DEMOCRACY, PLANNING COMES DOWN TO KASSING AS WIDE A NET AS POSSIBLE TO ELICIT AS MUCH PARTICIPATION AS POSSIBLE FROM THOSE THAT WILL BE AFFECTED BY POLICIES RULES AND REGULATIONS. I WILL ALWAYS REMEMBER MY TENURE WITH THE CITY FONDLY. I AM GRATEFUL TO HAVE HAD THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE THE PUBLIC AND I AM PROUD TO LEAVE A LEGACY FOR EXISTING AND FUTURE PLANNERS TO CONTINUE THIS PUBLIC SERVICE. AGAIN, THANK YOU. >> RAEL: I WANT TO CONGRATULATE RUSSELL AND WISH HIM THE BEST. ALL THE COMMENTS WELL DESERVED. YOU DID A GREAT JOB FOR THE MANY YEARS THAT YOU SERVED IN THE CITY. YOU ARE RIGHT, WHAT YOU HAVE DONE AND YOUR WORK, YOUR LIFE'S WORK HERE, HAS REALLY CHANGED ALBUQUERQUE, SO, ALL THE BEST TO YOU AND THANKS FOR YOUR SERVICE. >> Coun. Davis: MR. BRITOP THANKS, I HOPE YOU KNOW HOW MUCH YOUR APPRECIATED ON BEHALF OF THE CITY. WE INVITE YOU BACK TO PUBLIC COMMENTS AS MUCH AS YOU LIKE. ESPECIALLY IF YOU WRITE THEM OUT LIKE YOU HAVE TONIGHT. THE CITY OF SANTA FE TURNED DOWN MARTIN'S PERMIT FOR THE MID EVIL CASTLE HE WANTED TO BUILD. CONGRATULATIONS AND THANKS TO EVERYBODY FOR ALL YOUR WORK. COUNCILOR BORREGO, YOU HAVE A PRESENTATION THAT WE HAVE HAD SCHEDULED. LET ME WALK THROUGH REST OF OURSHOP. ONE OF THE BIGGEST ACCOMPLISHMENT ONCE WE CONTACT BUSINESS OWNER AND MAKE CONTACT WE GET 100% PARTICIPATION. IT IS HIGHER THAN WAY EXPECTED. ONCE WE GET A HOLD OF THEM, WE DO HAVE A LOT OF GOOD COOPERATION AMONG OWNERS. OUR NEW PROGRAM THAT WE START USING, APD CRIME PREVENTION THROUGH ENVIRONMENTAL DESIGN. APD IS GOING TO WORK ON CRIME PROPERTIES AND WE'LL OVERSEE THOSE PROGRAMS. FLUSH THEY WILL BE PART OF A NUISANCE ABATEMENT PROPERTY AND THEY WILL HAVE TO FALL IN LINE AND DO WHAT WE ARE ASKING TO BRING PROPERTY TO SAFER ENVIRONMENT FOR EVERYBODY THAT IS LIVING WITHIN THEM AND PROPERTIES AROUND THEM. THOSE ARE OUR ACCOMPLISHMENTS AS OF RIGHT NOW. SUMMARY. OUR ADAPT PROGRAM MISSION IS TO ADDRESS NUISANCE PROPERTIES BY WORKING WITH THE BUSINESS OWNERS, ADAPT DATA BASE, WE ARE WORKING TO GET IT AUTOMATED SO IT IS ALWAYS UPDATING AND WE ARE HERE TO WORK FOR ALL OF YOU. CITY COUNCILORS AND ADMINISTRATION, IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS, THERE IS OUR NUMBER. WE CAN SIT DOWN INDIVIDUALLY WITH EACH DISTRICT TO SHOW YOU THE PROPERTIES WE ARE CURRENTLY WORKING ON AND THAT WE HAVE WORKED ON FOR EACH DISTRICT. IF YOU WANT TO DISCUSS OTHER PROPERTIES, THERE IS OUR EMAIL ADDRESS AND PHONE NUMBER, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS. >> Coun. Borrego: I JUST WANTED TO THANK THE CHIEF FOR PUTTING ON THAT PRESENTATION AND REALLY THE PURPOSE OF MY REQUEST FOR INFORMATION IS TO SHOW CASE THE PROGRAM BUT ALSO I WAS REALLY SURPRISED AT THE NUMBER OF PROPERTIES THEY HAVE DEALT WITH SINCE JULY. I THINK THAT GOES TO SHOW THAT THIS IS A PROGRAM THAT IS REALLY WORKING AND IT REALLY GOES BEYOND NUISANCE PROPERTIES, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT THEY DEAL WITH OTHER CRIME ISSUES THAT THEY IDENTIFY TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE COMMUNITY POLICING AND WE TALK ABOUT CRIME PREVENTION THROUGH ENVIRONMENTAL DESIGN I THINK THIS IS ONE OF THE AREAS THAT REALLY WE AS COUNCILORS AND WE HAVE BEEN INVOLVED WITH THEM ALREADY BUT WE REALLY SHOULD BE LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, HOW THIS PROGRAM IS IMPACTING THE CITY BECAUSE IT IS IN A VERY POSITIVE WAY. I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU GUYS TO TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT CRIME PREVENTION THROUGH ENVIRONMENTAL DESIGN BECAUSE I SAW YOU HAD TWO CERTIFIED INSPECTORS OR STAFF I GUESS. DID YOU WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT. >> YES, SO, CRIME PREVENTION THROUGH ENVIRONMENTAL DESIGN IS A PROGRAM AND TWO OF THEM ARE CERTIFIED BASIC LEVEL. THE OTHER TWO ARE GETTING CERTIFIED AS WE SPEAK. MOST OF THEM ARE CERTIFIED AT BASIC LEVEL IT TRAINS THEM TO TAKE A LOOK AT PROPERTY AND FIGURE OUT AND DETERMINE WHAT ARE THE BEST COURSES OF ACTION TO DROP THE CRIME IN THAT AREA AND FOR THAT PROPERTY IF THEY NEED TO CUT SHRUBIES DOWN OR HAD MORE LIGHTING OR SECURITY CAMERAS OR THEY NEED TO CLEAN-UP, OR TAKE DOWN WINDOW SIGNS SO THAT THE PROPERTY OWNER CAN SEE OUTSIDE AND IT IS MORE VISUAL FOR THEM, YOU KNOW, THINGS OF THAT NATURE. THIS PROGRAM REALLY DOES GIVE A 360 LOOK AT PROPERTY OF HOW IT CAN BE MADE TO BE SAFER. >> Coun. Borrego: CAN YOU TALK ABOUT HOW THEY GET CERTIFIED FOR THAT PARTICULAR ACHIEVEMENT. >> YES. SO, BEFORE IT USED TO BE A ONE WEEK CLASS THAT WE HAD TO SEND ALL PERSONNEL OUT. COVID-19 HAS CHANGED WHERE IT IS ON LINE WHERE THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH POWER POINTS AND BASICALLY A COLLEGE COURSE THAT TAKES ABOUT SIX TO EIGHT WEEKS DEPENDING HOW FAST THEY GO THROUGH THE COURSE AND HOW MUCH TIME THEY DEVOTE TO THE COURSE. IT IS TAKING TESTS, JUST READING A DEDICATED BOOK TO THE PROGRAM AND UNDERSTANDING AND THEN HAVING DISCUSSIONS WITH INSTRUCTOR OF THE PROGRAM. >> THANK YOU AND SHOUT OUT TO DIRECTOR WILLIAMS AND GRIEGO. THERE STAFF HAVE BEEN INSTRUMENTAL. THEY HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB. THANK YOU. >> Coun. Gibson: SO CHIEF, I WANT TO EXTEND THANKS FOR THE MOTEL 6 THAT WE SAW ON THE SCREEN. THAT WAS AN EXAMPLE THAT YOU GAVE. THAT WAS JUST A GAME CHANGER OVER THERE. I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR FOCUS ON THAT AND ATTENTION TO ALL THE DETAILS PAUSE OF THE GREAT DIFFERENCE IT HAS MADE. JUST WANT TO EXPRESS MY GRATITUDE. >> YES, WE ARE HERE TO CONTINUE TO HELP AND DO BUSINESS JUST LIKE THAT. >> Coun. Davis: COUNCILLOR BENTON? >> Coun. Benton: THANK YOU. THIS CAME AS SUCH A RELIEF TO ME WHEN WE KIND OF REJIGGERED OUR WHOLE SYSTEM AND CREATED ADAPT. I THINK THAT AFR IS WHERE THIS BELONGS AND THERE IS SO MUCH EXPERTISE THERE AND THERE IS SO MUCH REALLY IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT, THEIR UNDERSTANDING OF ESPECIALLY OLDER PROPERTIES AND HAVING ANSWERED THEM I AM SURE IN DIFFICULT SITUATIONS, MULTIPLE TIMES, BUT THE ENTIRE ADMINISTRATIVE MOVE TO CREATE ADAPT I THINK WAS THE RIGHT CALL AND, YEAH, I ALSO WANT TO ECHO COUNCILOR BORREGO'S SHOUT OUT, CRIME PREVENTION THROUGH ENVIRONMENTAL DESIGN. I HOPE ALL ARCHITECTS AND BUILDERS ARE TAUGHT. THAT WHEN WE BUILD NEW PROPERTIES WE NEED TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT JUST BE COGNIZANT ABOUT KEEPING EYES ON THE STREET, YOU KNOW, IT WAS MENTIONED OF COURSE, CAMERAS AND SO FORTH WHICH IS IMPORTANT. I THINK WE OUGHT TO BE SUPPORTING IT AS COUNCILORS WHEN THESE ARE NMEDED NEEDED BT THOUGHTFULNESS WHAT YOU DO WITH YOUR PROPERTY, WHETHER AT DESIGN STAGE OR OPERATIONAL. HATS OFF TO ADAPT AND AFR FOR DOING SUCH A GREAT JOB AND TAKING IT OVER. >> Coun. Sena: I APPRECIATE -- COUNCILLOR BENTON SHARED MY THANKS FOR CRIME PREVENTION. I DO APPRECIATE AFR COVERAGE ON THAT AND THANK YOU FOR GOING GOLD. >> COUNCILOR SENA, THANK YOU AND GO GOLD. >> Coun. Borrego: CAN I SAY TWO MORE THINGS. I WANT TO RECOGNIZE THE FIRE DEPARTMENT BECAUSE THEY ARE ALWAYS GOING ABOVE AND BEYOND, YOU KNOW, THE THINGS THAT THEY HAVE TO DO WITH THE STAFF THAT THEY HAVE AND OF COURSE MY FATHER WAS A FIREFIGHTER SO I ALWAYS HAVE TO THROW THAT ONE IN BUT THE OTHER THING IS, IT IS IMPORTANT FOR THE PUBLIC TO RECOGNIZE THAT THESE SORTS OF PROGRAMS ARE AVAILABLE AND THAT THEY CAN REACH OUT TO THEIR CITY COUNCILORS OR TO THE MAYOR'S OFFICE, OF COURSE, ANY TIME IF THERE IS A PROBLEM PROPERTY OUT THERE BECAUSE THIS PROGRAM IS IN PLACE AND IT DOES HELP US TO IDENTIFY FIGHTING CRIME ACTIVITY. I WANTED TO MENTION THAT. THANK YOU CHIEF. >> Coun. Davis: I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE, I SEE A FEW OTHER FOLKS THAT I THINK WE'LL HEAR FROM LATER. CITY LEGAL HAS BEEN PART OF THE ADAPT HAS BEEN KEY FOR THIS. ESPECIALLY IN A COUPLE PROJECTS IN MY DISTRICT. I AM SURE THERE ARE OTHERS BUT I CAN'T SEE THE LIST. OUR ADAPT TEAM IS THROUGHOUT THE CITY AND APPRECIATE THEIR HELP. THANKS COUNCILOR BORREGO FOR BRINGING THAT. IT IS A GREAT UPDATE. >> AT THIS POINT, WE ARE GOING TO MOVE TO OUR NEXT ITEM. VERY BRIEFLY, WE ONLY HAVE A FEW PEOPLE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. WE ARE GOING TO DO THOSE AND THEY ARE WAITING. WHILE THEY BRING THOSE INTO THE MEETING, I'LL TAKE CARE OF A FEW ADMINISTRATIVE THINGS HERE. LIVE PUBLIC COMMENTS IS BEING TAKEN. WE HAVE FOLKS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. WE HAVE ALSO HAD MANY WRITTEN COMMENTS AND DISTRIBUTED IN ADVANCE OF THE MEETING. MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WILL BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL, IF THEY SIGNED UP FOR COMMENT PER THE RULES. MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ARE ALREADY BEING MOVED INTO THE WAITING ROOM. FOR THOSE READY FOR PUBLIC COMMENT THIS EVENING, YOU WILL REMAIN MUTED UNTIL YOU HAVE A CHANCE TO SPEAK AT WHICH POINT YOU HAVE UP TO 1 1/2 MINUTES TO PROVIDE COMMENTS. AFTER THAT, MR. MOYA WILL MUTE YOU AND MOVE YOU BACK OUT OF THIS ROOM. TO BEGIN WITH, COMMENTS ARE ADDRESSED TO COUNCILORS ONLY. ANY DISRUPTIVE COMMENT MAY BE CAUSE FOR REMOVAL OF THE MEETING. THERE IS A MINUTE AND A HALF TIME LIMIT. BEFORE WE BEGIN WITH GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENTS, I SEE MR. ED HARNESS DIRECTOR OF CPOA. I'LL DEFER TO YOU ABOUT WHETHER YOU WANT TO SPEAK ON THOSE OR DO IT MORE GENERICALLY HERE AND WE WON'T QUITE HOLD YOU TO THAT SAME TIME LIMIT. HOW WOULD YOU LIKE TO PROCEED, SIR? >> HARNESS: I AM HAPPY TO ADDRESS -- JUST TAKE A COUPLE MINUTES DURING PUBLIC COMMENTS. I THINK THE SEMI ANNUAL REPORTS ARE ON THE AGENDA AND THOSE WILL JUST BE ACKNOWLEDGED AND I'LL STAND-BY FOR QUESTIONS. MY GENERAL COMMENT IS I WOULD LIKE TO THANK COUNCILLOR PENA AND NANCY MONTANO ALONG WITH MS. VANMETEL AND PEOPLE THAT STAFFED OR PROVIDED INPUT THROUGH THE CPC SUBCOMMITTEE AND URGE PASSING OF THE CPC ORDINANCE THIS EVENING. THANKS. >> Coun. Davis: I AM GOING TO USE THIS AS OPPORTUNITY WHILE WE HAVE MR. HARNESS IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ON THOSE AGENDA ITEMS. IF YOU'LL HANGOUT UNTIL WE GET CONSENT. THAT WON'T TAKE BUT JUST A MINUTE AND THEN WE I'LL SEND YOU OFF. >> MR. MOYA, TURN THE FLOOR OVER TO YOU IF YOU WILL MODERATE OUR PUBLIC COMMENT. >> MOYA: THANK YOU MR. PRESIDENT. >> KITOWSKI: >> ADVOCATE APPROVAL OF CPC ORDINANCE. AS MANY CONTRIBUTORS HAVE REMINDED US, WORDS MATTER. EVEN CASUAL INFORMAL USE OF A SINGLE WORD CAN CHANGE PERCEPTIONS OF THE IMPORTANT ROLE CPC'S SERVE. UNTIL RECENTLY, ERRONEOUSLY ARE SEEN AS UNDER APD. LEAVING SOME COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO WORRY WE ARE NOT NEUTRAL OR FAIR IN OUR EFFORTS TO PROMOTE SAFETY AND PROSPERITY FOR ALL. CONVERSELY CASUAL DESCRIPTIONS OF CPC UNDER CPOA HAVE RACED CONCERNS THAT WE MIGHT BE ANTI-POLICE. WE FOSTER OPEN MINDED, FAIR HONEST, TRANSPARENT AND ACCOUNTABLE CONVERSATIONS BETWEEN ALL MEMBERS. WE ARE PLEASED WITH THE SUPPORT WE HAVE RECEIVED THROUGH THE CPOA AND LOOK FORWARD TO IMPROVED SUPPORT, RESOURCES AND CONTINUING ADVICE WHILE WORKING ALONGSIDE BOTH APD AND CPOA WHILE REMAINING ACCOUNTABLE TO THE CITY AND OUR COMMUNITY THROUGH YOU THE COUNCIL. THANK YOU. >> RYAN MARTINEZ: CAN ANYONE HEAR ME. I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU GUYS FOR HAVING ME ON AND START WITH A QUOTE FROM TOMORROWS JEFFERSON, GREATEST DANGER TO AMERICAN FREE DAM IS GOVERNMENT THAT IGNORES CONSTITUTION. MORE OF A QUESTION I GUESS I'LL MAKE A COMMENTS AS TO WHY YOU GUYERS VOTING ON GUN LAWS WHEN THE NEW MEXICO CONSTITUTION, ARTICLE TWO, SECTION 6 SAYS THAT NO MUNICIPALITY OR COUNTY SHALL REGULATE RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS. I ALSO WANT TO MAKE COMMENT ON WHY DOES MAYOR HAVE POLICE STAND DOWN OUTSIDE ALBUQUERQUE MUSEUM STATUE. I FEEL LIKE HIS ACTIONS MAY HAVE CAUSED SHOOTING AND YOU WOULDN'T HAVE TO FEEL GUNS IN CITY PLAZA IF YOU ENFORCE THE LAWS THERE. THANK YOU GUYS FOR HAVING ME. >> JOHN EDWARDS: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I WAS WANTING TO SPEAK ON THE ASPECTS RELATING TO EXPANSION OF UNSER BOULEVARD. YOU'RE GOING TO LOOK AT ITEM TODAY, EC-20-1 FORTH. THIS IS ESSENTIAL ELEMENT IN THE PROPOSAL THAT YOU VOTE ON AS RELATES TO THE ORGANIZATION THAT IS GOING TO BE OVERSEEING THE WORK. I WANT TO MAKE SURE AT LEAST INFORMATION PROVIDED IN THE REPORT IS NOTED THAT THERE ARE SOME INTERSECTIONS THAT ARE MISSING FROM THAT REPORT AND I DON'T WANT THIS TO BE OVERSIGHT THAT IS CARRIED FORWARD AND PREVIOUS INVESTIGATIONS AND DESIGN IN CONSTRUCTION OF UNSER BOULEVARD. I SENT IN WRITTEN COMMENTARY PRIOR. I WON'T BELABOR THE POINTS THAT I MADE IN WRITTEN NOTIFICATION BUT THE UNSER BOULEVARD IS OVERSEEN BY THE RAC AND TOOK FIVE YEARS, THREE TO FIVE, FOR THESE ACCESS POINTS TO BE SET UNDER THE RAC AND THEY ARE VERY LIMITED AND ARDUOUS TO REESTABLISH, SO, PLEASE MAKE SURE THAT IN MY WRITTEN COMMENTARY THAT THESE ACCESS POINTS ARE INCLUDED AND DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION OF THIS PROJECT, THAT ITEMS OF OTHER UTILITIES AND STORM WATER ARE SERIOUSLY CONSIDERED AND DONE AT THE TIME. CONSTRUCT AND THAT THE PROBLEMS THAT CURRENTLY EXIST AT UNSER ARE TAKEN CARE OF. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS CAN I ANSWER THEM BUT I JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT WRITTEN COMMENTARY FROM EARLIER TODAY. >> THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT. >> Coun. Davis: WE APPRECIATE YOU. WE ARE GOING TO MOVE NEXT TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DISCUSSIONS. AS PROMISED WE HAVE SPECIAL GUESTS JOINING FROM US ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT WHO ARE GOING TO GIVE US UPDATES ABOUT THREE VERY COOL NEW OPPORTUNITIES AVAILABLE TO US THIS EVENING THROUGH LEDA. LOOKING FOR GOOD NEWS AND THINGS TO BE PROUD OF, PAY ATTENTION TO THIS SECTION. THIS IS A GREAT WAY TO SEE NEW COMPANIES AND AMAZING PEOPLE DOING GREAT THINGS IN ALBUQUERQUE THAT YOU'LL BE SURPRISED TO SEE AND SO WITH THAT, I SEE, I THINK, OUR DIRECTOR IN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CONFERENCE ROOM. THIS MUST BE YOURS. >> THANK YOU COUNCIL PRESIDENT. AND MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL. YES, THIS IS JARAMILLO DIRECTOR OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. I WOULD LIKE TO BRIEFLY JUST GIVE A HIGH LEVEL DESCRIPTION OF THE STATE'S LEDA PROGRAM. THE STATE OF NEW MEXICO'S ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT HAS DEVELOPED A NEW PROGRAM DURING THIS TIME OF COVID-19 AND IT IS TO ASSIST NEW MEXICO BUSINESSES. AND THEY HAVE ASKED LOCAL COMMUNITIES LIKE THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE TO PARTNER WITH THEM THROUGH THE LOCAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ACT. AS FISCAL AGENTS FOR A ZERO PERCENT LOAN PROGRAM FOR EXPENSES RELATED TO LAND, BUILDINGS AND INFRASTRUCTURE AS REQUIRED BY THE STATE ACT AND LOCAL ORDINANCES. THOSE EXPENSES CAN INCLUDE LEASE OR MORTGAGE PAYMENTS. IT IS IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE CITY IS NOT BEING ASKED TO EVALUATE WHETHER A LOAN SHOULD BE GIVEN TO A PARTICULAR COMPANY NOR THE TERMS OF THE LOAN. NO CITY FUND ARE INVOLVED IN THESE TRANSACTIONS. WE APPRECIATE THE STATE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STAFF IN WORKING WITH US TO ASSIST ALBUQUERQUE COMPANIES IN THESE VERY UNCERTAIN TIMES. AND MAX BRUNER FROM THE STATE IS PARTICIPATING IN THIS MEETING. YOU SEE HIM ON THE SCREEN THERE AND HE CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS SHOULD YOU HAVE THEM REGARDING THE LOAN PROGRAM. FIRST UP I WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT ADVANCED OPTICAL TECHNOLOGIES, THEY ARE REQUESTING $214,035 IN A LEDA LOAN. THEY OFFER MULTI-DIMENSIONAL MICRO AND NANO STRUCTURAL MATERIAL, MAPPING AND ASSESSMENT FOR A MORE COMPLETE UNDERSTANDING OF COMPLEX MATERIALS, DEVICES AND SCENARIOS AND DEVELOP CUSTOM 17SOMES FOR DEFENSE AND COMMERCIAL CUSTOMERS. AGAIN, THEY ARE REQUESTING, 214,035. THE LOAN WILL ENABLE THEM TO STAY ON ITS PRE-PANDEMIC PATH AND PROVIDE ADDITIONAL HIGH WAGE JOBS IN THE FUTURE. WITHOUT FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE, ADVANCED OPTICAL TECHNOLOGIES IS AT RISK OF LOSING HIGH TECH POSITIONS PERMANENTLY IN AN INNOVATIVE AND CUTTING EDGE INDUSTRY NOW READY TO CENTER A MANUFACTURING STAGE. DESPITE BEING A SMALL COMPANY, ADVANCED ONTY CAL TECHNOLOGIES OFFERS A BENEFIT PACKAGE WHICH INCLUDES FLEX TIME, SICK TIME, FOUR WEEK VACATION LEAVE, 10 GOVERNMENTAL PAID HOLIDAYS AND RETIREMENT. PENDING APPROVAL OF THE LEDA LOAN COMPANY AGREED TO MAINTAIN A HEAD COUNT OF TWO FULL-TIME POSITIONS AND A MONTHLY PAYROLL OF 12,500. NOW, AT THIS TIME I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE ADVANCED OPTICAL TECHNOLOGIES CEO, HOOVER, FOR ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS OR COMPANY RELATED QUESTIONS. >> YES, WILL OUR COMPANY ADVANCED OPTICAL TECHNOLOGY LOCATED AT AN SEE SANDIA SCIENK OUTSIDE THE LABS. OUR COMPANY HAS DEVELOPED CRYSTAL VIEW CPC EYE QUESTION IS 100 YEAR OLD TECHNOLOGY AND THE INSTRUMENT WE HAVE DEVELOPED AND TRY TO MANUFACTURE AND SELL IS A NONDESTRUCTIVE AND ALLOWS -- JUST FOR SIMPLE EXPLANATION, IT REALLY HELPS THE MATERIALS IN AEROSPACE, LIKE PLANES AND JET ENGINES TO BE MORE RESILIENT AND STRONG AND KIND OF KEEP AN EYE THAT THEY ARE NOT GOING TO FAIL WHILE THE PLANE IS IN THE FLIGHT. SO, THIS IS VERY EXCITING DISCOVERY AND IT ALSO APPLIES TO SAMPLES AS WELL AS AUTOMOTIVE AND MEDICAL EQUIPMENT. WHAT THE LOAN IS GOING TO DO IS LET US FOCUS ON HIRING MORE PEOPLE AND BUILDING OUR SALES TEAM BOTH HERE IN THE YOU AND ABROAD TO GET THIS TECHNOLOGY IN THE HANDS OF PEOPLE WHO ARE WORKING ON THIS MATERIAL. ELSE. >> Coun. Davis: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. HOOVER? >> Coun. Gibson: THANK YOU. SO, CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR BUSINESS AND I CERTAINLY WISH YOU THE BEST IN THE FUTURE. IT SOUNDS LIKE AN EXCITING TECHNOLOGY. AND I AM SURE THERE ARE A LOT OF APPLICATIONS FOR IT BECAUSE MATERIALS THAT GET SHOT INTO SPACE SO, IT SOUNDS REALLY EXCITING. I WANTED TO TALK WITH YOU IN THE EMPLOYMENT ASPECT ABOUT THIS. YOUR PROMISE IN ACCEPTING THIS LOAN IS MAINTENANCE OF TWO FULL-TIME POSITIONS AT $12TH,500 MONTHLY. THAT SOUNDS GREAT BUT THEN YOU DID MENTION THAT YOUR YOUR GOAS TO HERE MORE PEOPLE. WOULD THAT BE PART-TIME OR MORE PEOPLE AFTER THE TWO YEARS. I AM NOT QUITE CLEAR ON THAT. >> CURRENTLY WE ARE FINISHING UP PROTOTYPE FOR AIR FORCE AND THEN WE GO INTO PRODUCTION FOR SELLING IT COMMERCIALLY. ONCE THE GOVERNMENT GIVES US PERMISSION. BECAUSE OF THE COVID-19 IT CAN TAKE A WHILE BECAUSE THIS TECHNOLOGY WHICH WE ARE WORKING ON IS -- THERE IS SOME REQUIREMENT WHO WE CAN SELL TO AND WHILE THAT IS HAPPENING, AS WE GET ORDERS, WE ARE GOING TO HERE ENGINEERS AND THEY WOULD ALL BE FULL-TIME JOBS. >> WOULD THAT BE LIKE IN ABOUT TWO YEARS. >> IT COULD START WITHIN A YEAR AS SOON AS WE CAN START SELLING AND IT DOESN'T HELP WITH THE COVID-19 THAT THE WHOLE MARKET OR WHOLE INDUSTRY IS ALMOST DOWN, AIRLINES AND -- AIRLINES ARE PRETTY DOWN RIGHT NOW BUT WE ARE HOPING THAT IT WILL TURN AROUND IN SIX MONTHS. SOME CUSTOMERS WE ARE WORKING WITH THEM AND THEY KNOW WE ARE WORKING ON THIS SO THEY ARE INTERESTED TO BUY THE PRODUCT. >> Coun. Gibson: I WISH YOU THE BEST OF LUCK. >> THANK YOU, APPRECIATE IT. >> Coun. Davis: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SEEING NONE. WE'LL TAKE ALL THESE AND VOTE AT THE END. >> JARAMILLO: THANK YOU. NEXT PRESENTATION IS ON THREE D GLASS SOLUTION. IT IS INNOVATIVE RADIO FREQUENCY DEVICE AND MANUFACTURING COMPANY THAT DEVELOPS AND BUILD HIGH FREQUENCY 3D COMPONENTS AND IT IS 33,000 SQUARE FOOT MANUFACTURING FACILITY LOCATED AT 5601 BALLOON FIESTA PARKWAY IN THE BEAUTIFUL CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE. FOUNDED IN 2005 TECHNOLOGY WAS CREATED BY A RESEARCH SHALLER AT SANDIA. >> THE RESEARCHER INVENTED A TECHNIQUE THAT LEVERAGED UNIQUE PROPERTIES OF GLASS CERAMICS AND MANUFACTURING PROCESS TO CREATE PRECISE FREQUENCY COMPONENTS FOR ELECTRONICS INDUSTRY. DUE TO THE PANDEMIC, SECOND HALF OF 2020 HAS SEEN A SLOW DOWN IN THEIR GROWTH POTENTIAL. ANY REDUCTION IN HEAD COUNT WOULD BE DETRIMENTAL TO THE SUCCESS OF THE COMPANY. THE COMPANY IS REQUESTING FOR 71,296 IN A LEDA LOAN WHICH WOULD BE USED TO PAY LEASE PAYMENT OVER THE NEXT 2 YEARS. THIS FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE WILL HELP 3D GLASS SOLUTIONS TO MAINTAIN CURRENT HEAD COUNT AND PROVIDE SUPPORT FOR THE CONTINUED GROWTH OF THE BUSINESS. THE MAJORITY OF THE OPPORTUNITY EMPLOYEES ARE SPECIALIZED AND TECHNICAL IN NATURE. THE COMPANY OFFER AS VERY COMPETITIVE BENEFITS PACKAGE WHICH INCLUDES AN IRA, DENTAL INSURANCE, AND COMPANY PAID LIFE INSURANCE. 3D GLASS SOLUTIONS CONTRIBUTES 95% OF THE COST OF THE MEDICAL PREMIUMS FOR EMPLOYEES AND 50% OF THE COST OF THE MEDICAL PREMIUMS FOR DEPEN DON'TS. PENDING APPROVAL OF A LOAN COMPANY AGREED TO MAINTAIN A HEAD COUNT OF 32 PEOPLE AND A MONTHLY PAYROLL OF 20 8,000. ADAM WITH 3D GLASS SOLUTIONS, CFO IS PARTICIPATING ON THE CALL OR ZOOM MEETING AND CAN ANSWER ANY COMPANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME. >> Coun. Davis: ARE YOU OPEN AND AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS? ANYTHING YOU WANT TO SHARE. >> GREAT. THANK YOU. YEAH. A LITTLE BIT ABOUT 3D, SORT OF SUMMARIZE WHAT WE DO HERE IN ALBUQUERQUE IS WE MAKE ELECTRONIC COMPONENTS USING GLASS. PATENT IS GLASS, SO, IF YOU WERE TO CRACK ON YOUR CELL PHONE, YOUR CALCULATORS YOU WOULD SEE A GREEN BOARD IN THERE OR CERAMIC BASE. WE ARE THE ONLY COMPANY IN THE WORLD THAT MAKES ELECTRONIC COMPONENTS OUT OF GLASS. WE HAVE OVER 10 PATENTS AND 40 PENDING. TO YOUR POINT, EXCITING NEWS FOR CITY, WE ARE GOING TO ANNOUNCE YOU HEAR A LOT ABOUT 5G COMMUNICATIONS. WE ARE GOING TO ANNOUNCE THAT WE BROKE THE WORLD RECORD IN 5G COMMUNICATIONS. ITS A VERY SMALL COMPANY BUT WE HAVE THIS HUGE OPPORTUNITY IN FRONT OF US WHICH BASICALLY THIS WORLD RECORD, YOU KNOW, CONVERTED INTO SIMPLE TERMS, YOUR ABLE TO DOWNLOAD LET'S SAY 66 MOVIES IN TWO SECONDS. WE'LL ANNOUNCE THAT AND GETTING THE WORD OUT. SO WE ARE EXCITED ABOUT THE FUTURE OF THIS. WE HAVE BEEN IMPACTED BY COVID-19 LIKE MOST AND SO THIS LOAN PROGRAM DURING THIS UNCERTAIN TIME IS HUGE FOR US TO KEEP OUR EXTREMELY TALENTED EMPLOYEE BASE AND GROW FROM THERE. I WANT TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO THANK THE CITY, MARK ROPER, JENNIFER MEYERS. I I'LL OPEN IT UP TO QUESTIONS. >> Coun. Davis: THANK YOU. THAT IS A PRETTY AMAZING WORK. NOW WE HAVE SOMETHING TO LOOK FORWARD TO. >> OF >> THE NEWS IS OUT BUT WE WANT SOMETHING ON THE WEBSITE AND FORMAL PRESS RELEASE. WE ARE A VERY SMALL COMPANY AND WE WERE HIT HARD OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS BUT WE SEE THE LIGHT AT THE ENDS OF THE TUNNEL AND IT IS EXCITING. >> Coun. Davis: WE ARE GLAD TO SEE THAT COME TO FRUITION. COUNCILOR BORREGO? >> Coun. Borrego: THANK YOU. I AM SORRY I KEEP PUTTING MY HAND IN THERE TO TURN MY SCREEN ON AND OFF. I DON'T KNOW HOW TO ADJUST THAT, BUT, MY QUESTION REALLY ISN'T FOR THESE COMPANIES. MORE FOR MS. JARAMILLO. I ASKED HAD THIS QUESTION SOME TIME AGO. I KNOW YOU ARE BUSY BUT THE LEDA FUND IN TERMS OF HOW IT IS FUNDED AND WHAT THE SORT OF PROJECTIONS ARE FOR THE FUTURE OF THAT FUND AND HOW IT REGENERATES ITSELF. I WOULD STILL LIKE TO GET THAT REPORT. IF YOU COULD SPEND SOMETIME OR MAYBE JUST GIVE ME A CALL IN MY OFFICE, HOWEVER YOU WANT TO DO IT CYNTHIA, I WOULD APPRECIATE IT. >> JARAMILLO: CERTAINLY. I I'LL REACH OUT TO YOUR ANALYST AND SCHEDULE SOME TIME TO SIT WITH YOU. >> Coun. Davis: WOULD YOU JUST CLARIFY FOR US. AS I RECALL THIS IS A PASS THROUGH PROJECT, NOT A DIRECT CITY MATCH. >> JARAMILLO: THAT IS CORRECT. WE ARE SERVING AS ADMINISTRATOR OF THE LOAN PROGRAM. >> Coun. Davis: OTHER QUESTIONS? >> SEEING NONE. DIRECTOR WOULD YOU TAKE US THROUGH OUR LAST PRESENTATION WITH -- >> JARAMILLO: >> THE. >> BAYOTECH HEADQUARTERS IS AT 8601 -- >> THE COMPANY IS REQUESTING 346,788 IN A LEDA LOAN. THE LOAN WILL GO TOWARDS LEASE PAYMENTS WHICH WILL FREE UP OTHER CAPITAL THE COMPANY HAS TO MAINTAIN OPERATIONS. LEDA ZERO INTEREST LOAN WILL HELP TO ENSURE A BRIDGE PAST THE CORONAVIRUS DISASTER. ADDITIONAL LAYOFF OF PERSONNEL AND SEIZE OPPORTUNITIES. MAJORITY OF THE CURRENT EMPLOYEES ARE PRIMARILY TECHNICAL POSITIONS AND ARE CONSIDERED FULL-TIME. AND COME WITH A COMPLETE FULL EMPLOYEE BENEFIT PACKAGE. PENDING APPROVAL OF THE LOAN, THE COMPANY HAS AGREED TO MAINTAIN A HEAD COUNT OF 20 AND A MONTHLY PAYROLL OF JUST UNDER 120,000. AT THIS TIME I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE BAYOTECH CFO. AGAIN, SHE CAN ANSWER ANY COMPANY RELATED QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU PRESIDENT DAVIS AND COUNCILORS. THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. BOYOTECH IS AN EXCITING COMPANY ON THE CUSP OF COMMERCIAL OPERATION SO WE HAVE A SMALL -- HYDROGEN IS GOING TO BE EXTREMELY IMPORTANT AS WORLD TRANSITIONS TO HYDROGEN AS A SOURCE OF CLEAN FUEL. WE ARE A LOW CARBON SOURCE OF HYDROGEN WHICH IS IMPORTANT. WE ACTUALLY HAVE COMMERCIALIZING TECHNOLOGY THAT IS FROM SANDIA NATIONAL LABORATORIES, YOU KNOW, HAVE SEVERAL PEOPLE THAT WORK HERE IN ALBUQUERQUE IN THE FORM OF SEVERAL OF OUR SCIENTISTS AND AS MENTIONED, OUR ENTIRE FINANCE TEAM, ET CETERA. SO WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO HAVING THESE LOAN PROCEEDS TO BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN OUR STAFF AND BRIDGE US TO THE POINT THAT WE HAVE OPERATIONS. I WOULD BE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. >> Coun. Davis: THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS? >> SEEING NONE. WE APPRECIATE YOU JOINING US FROM THE NMED, ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS FROM THE STATE? OTHERWISE WE'LL MOVE FORWARD TO VOTING. >> BRUNER: THANK YOU. THREE VERY EXCITING COMPANIES AS YOU HEARD TODAY. I LOVE COMING TO THE COUNCIL SESSIONS TO HELP PROMOTE COMPANIES. WE SOMETIMES DON'T KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON IN OUR BACK YARD HERE AND SOME OF THE INNOVATION AND THE LOVE AND THE CARE THAT THESE COMPANIES ARE TAKE, IT IS JUST WONDERFUL TO SEE, TO LEARN ABOUT AND WHATEVER WE CAN DO TO SUPPORT. THEN I JUST WANT TO GO ON THE RECORD AND GIVE A HUGE SHOUT OUT TO THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TEAM. YOU KNOW, I WORK ALL ACROSS THE STATE AND I HAVE TO SAY I CANNOT EMERGENCY A BETTER AND MORE DILIGENT AND MORE WONDERFUL PARTNER IN THIS WORK. SO, THANK YOU VERY MUCH ALBUQUERQUE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. THANK YOU PRESIDENT DAVIS. >> Coun. Davis: THANK YOU FOR PARTICIPATING. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR BRUNER, DIRECTOR JARAMILLO OR EXECUTIVES? SEEING NONE. I WILL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE DO PASS OR O-32. SPONSORED BY COUNCILLOR HARRIS. THIS APPROVES PROJECT INVOLVES ADVANCED OPTICAL TECHNOLOGIES PURSUANT TO LEDA ACT AND CITY ORDINANCES. >> Coun. Benton: SECOND. >> Councilor Bassan: YES. >> Coun. Benton: YES. >> Coun. Borrego: YES. >> Coun. Gibson: YES. >> Coun. Jones: YES. >> Coun. Pena: YES. >> Coun. Sena: YES. >> Coun. Davis: YES. 8-0 WITH COUNCILLOR HARRIS EXCUSED. >> Coun. Davis: CONGRATULATION S, SEE YOU AGAIN SOON WHEN YOU ADD MORE FOLKS. >> I BELIEVE YOU HAVE 3D GLASS SOLUTIONS PROJECT. >> Councilor Bassan: I WILL MOVE O-33 APPROVING A PROJECT INVOLVES 3D GLASS SOLUTIONS INC. PURSUANT TO LOCAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ACT. TO SUPPORTING ONS OF 3D GLASS SOLUTIONS INC. I MOVE DO PASS. >> Coun. Sena: SECOND. >> Councilor Bassan: URGE YOUR SORT. >> Coun. Davis: SORRY I WAS OFF TRACK. >> Councilor Bassan: YES. >> Coun. Benton: YES. >> Coun. Borrego: YES. >> Coun. Gibson: YES. >> Coun. Jones: YES. >> Coun. Pena: YES. >> Coun. Sena: YES. >> Coun. Davis: YES. PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >> Coun. Davis: THAT WAS MY FAULT. LET'S TRY IT AGAIN WITH O CASH 34. >> Councilor Bassan: I WAS READY TO VOTE. THANK YOU. I MOVE O-34 APPROVING A PROJECT INVOLVING BAYOTECH PURSUANT TO THE LOCAL DEVELOPMENT ACT TO SUPPORT OPERATIONS. I MOVE MOVE DO PA. >> Coun. Borrego: SECOND. >> Councilor Bassan: I DO URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >> Councilor Bassan: YES. >> Coun. Benton: YES. >> Coun. Borrego: YES. >> Coun. Gibson: YES. >> Coun. Jones: YES. >> Coun. Pena: YES. >> Coun. Sena: YES. >> Coun. Davis: YES. 8-0, THANK YOU. >> Coun. Davis: THANK YOU ALL. CONGRATULATIONS. THANK TO YOU ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TEAM. WE WOULD LOVE TO SEE YOU BACK HERE AS OFTEN AS WE CAN GET YOU. THANK YOU. >> MR. MOYA, IF YOU'LL HELP ME BY MOVING THOSE THOSE FOLKS OUT OF THE MEETING. >> ADMINISTRATION Q AND A. COUNCILOR BASSAN SUBMITTED QUESTIONS. >> Councilor Bassan: THANK YOU. MY FIRST QUESTION IS A NEW QUESTION. DOES THE CITY ADMINISTRATION TASK THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WITH SPECIFIC ASSIGNMENTS OR TASKS? >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT CAN I HAVE IS AND COUNCILOR BASSAN, MAYOR'S CHIEF OF STAFF. ON THAT QUESTION THEY HAVE ASKED ME TO ANSWER THIS BECAUSE WE HAVE A WHOLE VARIETY OF PROCESSES WE USE ACROSS DEPARTMENTS, COLLABORATIVE PROCESSES AND COMMUNICATIONS PROCEDURES THAT WE USE TO GO OVER INITIATIVES AND PRIORITIES WITH ALL DEPARTMENTS. SO, WE ARE IN COMMUNICATION WITH APD AS WE ARE WITH ALL DEPARTMENTS AND DEPENDING WHAT THE INITIATIVE IS AND WHAT THE PRIORITIES ARE IT REALLY COST VARY FROM MEETING AGENDAS TO IN-PERSON MEETINGS, NOT AS MANY IN--PERSON THESE DAYS. MEMOS, YEAH, THERE ARE A VARIETY OF COMMUNICATIONS AND PROCESSES WE USE WITH APD. THEY ARE NOT MUCH DIFFERENT THAN HOW WE USE THEM WITH OTHER DEPARTMENTS AS WELL. >> Councilor Bassan: DO YOU KNOW GENERALLY IF YOU HAD TO GUESS HOW OFTEN DO THESE ASSIGNMENTS GET IMPOSED UPON THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. >> AS FAR AS THAT PARTICULAR DEPARTMENT I MEAN ASSIGNMENTS ARE DONE ACROSS DEPARTMENTS ONGOING. CAN YOU IMAGINE. WE HAVE A WEEKLY DIRECTOR MEETINGS AND SO THERE IS COMMUNICATIONS THAT ARE HAPPENING LITERALLY WEEKLY, DAILY. I DON'T THINK YOU COULD SAY THERE WAS ANY REGULAR PATTERN FOR ANY PARTICULAR DEPARTMENT OTHER THAN THE FACT THAT YOU CAN ALSO IMAGINE SOME DEPARTMENTS GET BUSY AT CERTAIN TIMES OF YEAR, FOR EXAMPLE. APD IS ALWAYS A BUSY DEPARTMENT ALL TIMES OF THE YEAR. THAT IS HOW THEY ARE UNIQUE BUT I COULDN'T SAY THERE IS A REGULAR PATTERN OF EXACTLY WHEN THOSE ASSIGNMENTS ARE MADE TO DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS. >> Councilor Bassan: APPRECIAT E THAT ONE MORE FOR YOU. SO, THERE ARE ANY SPECIFIC DIRECTIVES ON STRUCTURING OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. >> AS FAR AS ORGANIZATION I THINK THERE IS CONVERSATIONS THAT GO ON NPARTICULAR, ACROSS ALL DEPARTMENTS HOW THEY ORGANIZE THEIR WORK. THAT IS TRUE OF APD AS WELL AS OTHER DEPARTMENTS. AGAIN THAT IS NOT RARE. SO, AS FAR AS SPECIFIC DIRECTIVES ON THAT PARTICULAR DEPARTMENT, I GUESS I COULD GET BACK TO YOU ON THE PARTICULARS BUT I DO WANT TO SAY THAT FOR ALL THE DEPARTMENTS I KNOW THE MAYOR IS IN ONGOING CONVERSATIONS WITH THE DIRECTORS ABOUT HOW IT IS ORGANIZED. >> Councilor Bassan: IF YOU CAN GET BACK TO ME WITH MORE INFORMATION I WOULD BE GRATEFUL. MY NEXT QUESTIONS ARE REALLY JUST FOLLOW-UP FROM THE LAST MEETING AS I WAS TOLD I WOULD GET INFORMATION SENT OVER TO ME OR ALL OF US FOR THAT MATTER. I HAVEN'T RECEIVED ANY RESPONSE. I AM WONDERING IF THERE ARE ANY FEDERAL GRANTS APPROVED FOR APD BUT THAT WE HAVE NOT ACCEPTED. >> ISRAEL >> RAEL: WE KNOW WE HAVE ANSWERED -- ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT? WE DO HAVE SOMEONE FROM APD, I APOLOGIZE. >> GOOD AFTERNOON. I DO HAVE -- I AM ABLE TO ANSWER THAT. I HAVE REACHED OUT FOR SOME INFORMATION FROM BUDGET AND FROM WHAT I HAVE BEEN TOLD, THERE HAVE BEEN TO THE QUESTION OF FEDERAL GRANTS, THERE HAVE BEEN SOME GRANTS BUT WE HAVE NOT ACCEPTED YET DUE TO ISSUES WITH SPECIAL CONDITIONS. THOSE ARE DEALING WITH IT LOOKS LIKE APPROXIMATELY 5 GRANTS THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT DEALING WITH SPECIAL. >> Councilor Bassan: THANK YOU. DEPUTY CHIEF THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYWAY WE CAN AS A COUNCIL SEE. I AM ALL FOR GETTING MORE FUNDING THAT IS IN A GRANT FORM THAT CAN HELP THE DEPARTMENT. SO, IF THERE IS A WAY WE CAN WORK ON SOMETHING TO WORK WITH CITY LEGAL AND WHATNOT, SO THAT WE CAN SEE WHAT THESE SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCES ARE AND IMPROVE THAT I WOULD BE GRATEFUL TO RECEIVE THAT AS WELL. THE NEXT QUESTION IS DO APD DETECTIVES HAVE ANY SPECIALIZED TRAINING CERTIFICATIONS? >> SO, THE QUICK ANSWER IS YES. HOWEVER ALONG WITH THAT, I WILL TELL YOU APD IS CURRENTLY WORKING WITH OUR ACADEMY TO DEVELOP UNIT SPECIFIC TRAINING INVOLVING A CAREER PATH FOR DETECTIVE. WE HAVE RECOGNIZED THAT EACH OF THE UNITS IN OUR INVESTIGATION BUREAU HAVE VERY SPECIFIC TASKS WHICH REQUIRE VERY SPECIFIC AND SPECIALIZED INFORMATION. ALONG WITH IS THAT THERE IS TRAINING THAT IS NEEDED AND THAT I WILL SAY IS CURRENTLY NEEDED FOR THESE DETECTIVES ON THEIR CAREER PATHS. SO, DO I HAVE A LIST THAT I WAS GIVEN FROM THE INVESTIGATIONS BUREAU ABOUT TRAINING THAT DETECTIVES DO HAVE, HOWEVER, FROM WHAT I HAVE NOTICED IT IS NOT UNIFORM AND AS OF RIGHT NOW IT IS NOT STANDARDIZED SO IN TALKING WITH THE DEPUTY CHIEF IN INVESTIGATIONS AND IN TALKING WITH THOSE INVOLVED IN SPECIFICALLY THE TRAINING PERTAINING TO THE INVESTIGATION BUREAU PERSONNEL, I WAS TOLD THAT AGAIN WE ARE DEVELOPING THAT AND IT WITH BE LIKE BASIC LEVEL TRAINING, INTERMEDIATE LEVEL TRAINING AND ADVANCED TRAINING. EACH SPECIFIC TO THOSE UNITS AND CAREER PATHS. THAT IS ONGOING WITH THE APD ACADEMY RIGHT NOW AND THAT WOULD BE A LONG-TERM GOAL, HOWEVER, IN THE INTERIM THERE IS SOME BASIC CLASSES THAT DETECTIVES HAVE. BUT YET AGAIN IT IS NOT STANDARDIZED AT THIS TIME. >> Councilor Bassan: THANK YOU. I AM GOING TO ASK LIKE THE MILLION DOLLAR QUESTION I GUESS. WHEN YOU SAY THAT IS A LONG-TERM GOAL. WHAT IS THE GENERAL POTENTIAL FOR THAT LONG-TERM GOAL TO DEVELOP THIS TRAINING STANDARD? DOES ANYBODY HAVE AN IDEA OF HOW LONG? ARE WE TALKING LIKE FIVE YEARS, A YEAR, SIX MONTHS. >> I HONESTLY DO NOT KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS IN DEVELOPMENT RIGHT NOW. I THINK THAT QUESTION WOULD BE BETTER ANSWERED BY SOMEONE IN INVESTIGATIONS BUREAU. I CAN TELL YOU I THINK AS FAR AS THE PLAN ITSELF REALLY SHOULD NOT, I DON'T THINK, SHOULD BE TOO DRAWN OUT. THERE ARE MODELS WE CAN WORK ON AND WE CAN FOLLOW. IMMEDIATE NEED RIGHT NOW IS THAT OUR DETECTIVES ARE TASKED WITH A LOT OF CASES AND IT IS CHALLENGING TO BREAK AWAY FROM THAT BUT IN ORDER TO BE SUCCESSFUL IN WHAT WE ARE DOING RIGHT NOW OUR PERSONNEL MUST BE ADEQUATELY TRAINED AND PREPARED TO DO WHAT WE ARE ASKING THEM DO. AS FAR AS LONG-TERM, I WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO ANSWER THE SPECIFICS OF THAT BUT THAT IS A CONVERSATION THAT I'LL BE HAPPY TO FOLLOW-UP ON AND HAPPY TO GET BACK WITH YOU WITH MORE SPECIFICS. >> Councilor Bassan: I WOULD HAVE BEEN MORE SURPRISED IF WOULD YOU HAVE HAD AN ANSWER. I WANTED TO AT LEAST ASK HOW LONG WE SHOULD EXPECT BEFORE THAT HAPPENS. GOING BACK TO THE QUESTION REGARDING THE SPECIAL TRAINING CERTIFICATIONS, IT SOUNDS LIKE SINCE THERE REALLY IS NO FORMALIZED AND NO CERTIFICATIONS TO PROVIDE US WITH. AM I ON THE RIGHT TRACK. >> THERE ARE CERTIFICATIONS. DIFFERENCE IS THOUGH IS NOT A STANDARDIZED LIST FOR EVERYONE. IT IS GOING TO BE DIFFERENT. A LOT OF IT DEPENDS ON HOW LONG THE DETECTIVES HAVE BEEN IN THEIR SPECIFIC AREA AND THE NEWER DETECTIVES SO THE LIST WILL VARY. THERE IS A LIST AND I AM LOOKING AT WHAT WAS PROVIDED TO ME WHICH IS A LIST OF JUST A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT CLASSES, BUT AGAIN, IT IS GOING TO BE DIFFERENT PERTAINING TO EACH UNIT. AS FAR AS THE SPECIFICS AND I THINK YOU ASKED SPECIFICALLY FOR JUST HOMICIDE UNIT, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT AGAIN WE CAN PROVIDE TO YOU VIA EMPLOYEES THEM THAT WOULD WORK BUT JUST FOR THE SAKE OF THOSE INVOLVED IN THE INVESTIGATIONS THEMSELVES, MAYBE WE COULD SEND YOU EMAIL AND NAMES AND TRAINING IF THAT WOULD SUFFICE. >> Councilor Bassan: THAT WOULD BE GREAT, THANK YOU. YOU KIND OF ALREADY ANSWERED. THEN MY LAST QUESTION IS, WE WERE TOLD THERE WOULD BE A SIGN IN SHEET OR ROSTER FOR ALL THOSE IN THE COMMAND CENTER AND REACTION PLANS ON BOTH NIGHTS OF THE DOWNTOWN RIOTS AND AT THE MUSEUM. I KNOW WE WERE ALL TOLD IN THE LAST MEETING THERE WAS LIKELY A SIGN-IN SHEET AND IT WOULD BE PROVIDED TO US. WE HAVE YET TO RECEIVE THIS ROSTER LISTING FOR WHO WAS PRESENT IN THE OPERATIONAL COMMAND MANAGEMENT. IS THAT GOING TO BE PROVIDED AND DO WE KNOW BY WHEN? >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT AND COUNCILOR I FOLLOWED UP ON THIS REQUEST. I REACHED OUT TO OUR OPERATIONS REVIEW PERSONNEL, THE LIEUTENANT THERE. I HAVE ALSO REACHED OUT TO THE REALTIME CRIME CENTER. I WAS NOT PRESENT DURING THAT INCIDENT AND SO I DO NOT HAVE FIRSTHAND KNOWLEDGE BUT THE PERSONNEL THAT I REACHED OUT TO, I HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT THERE IS NOT A LIST AND I HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT WE DO NOT HAVE A SIGN-IN ROSTER AT THE REALTIME CRIME CENTER. DO I KNOW WE HAVE ROSTERS FOR BRIEFINGS WE CONTACT WITH THE TEAMS AND I BELIEVE THOSE ARE INCLUDED IN OUR AFTER ACTION REPORT AND ALL THAT INFORMATION WOULD BE INCLUDED SPECIFICALLY. HOWEVER, PERTAINING TO THAT SPECIFIC NATURE OF YOUR QUESTION, I WAS INFORMED THERE WAS NO ROSTER AT THE REALTIME CRIME CENTER AS FAR AS ANYTHING IN THE INCIDENT COMMAND. >> Councilor Bassan: AM I MAYBE GETTING NAME WRONG IT IS NOT REALTIME CRIME CENTER. DECISION MAKING OF THE NIGHT ON THE ALBUQUERQUE MUSEUM AND DOWNTOWN RIOTS. I CALL THEM RIOTS, BEEN CORRECTED BUT I HEARD THERE WAS SIGN-IN SHEETS FOR THOSE IN CHARGE IN MAKING THE PLAN HOW THEY ARE GOING TO REACT. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT EXISTS? >> HONESTLY, I DON'T PERSONALLY KNOW. I WAS NOT THERE. I DO NOT KNOW WHAT WAS EXPECTED OR THE STANDARDIZED PROTOCOL WAS AND IN FOLLOWING UP WITH YOUR QUESTION, THOUGH, I REACHED OUT TO PEOPLE WHO ARE THERE, AGAIN, IN THE OPERATIONS MANAGEMENT, WHICH WOULD BE OUR OPERATIONS REVIEW. THEY ARE MANAGING THE INCIDENT AND PROVIDING FEEDBACK AS FAR AS WHAT IS HAPPENING DURING THOSE EVENTS. THOSE ARE THE INDIVIDUALS PRESENT IN THE COMMAND MAKING AND DECISION MAKING. THEY ARE WHO I ASKED. THEY ARE THE INDIVIDUALS AND THE LIEUTENANT SPECIFICALLY THERE THAT NIGHT. I ASKED IF THERE WAS SUCH A SIGN-IN ROSTER. AND I WAS TOLD THAT THERE WAS NOT AND THAT WE DO NOT HAVE ONE IN THE INCIDENT COMMAND. >> Councilor Bassan: THANK YOU. I HAVE ONE MORE GOING BACK TO THE GRANTS THING. I WANT TO ASK DEPUTY CHIEF ARE ME HE, WHAT ARE THESE GRANTS FOR? YOU SAID THEY ARE ABOUT FIVE GRANTS RIGHT NOW THAT WE ARE NOT CURRENTLY TAKING ADVANTAGE OF FOR A TOTAL OF APPROXIMATELY 11 MILLION. CAN YOU GIVE US INFORMATION WHAT THOSE GRANTS MIGHT BE FOR AND DO WE EVEN NEED THEM? SHOULD WE PURSUE THEM OR JUST A WASTE OF TIME. >> SURE. ANY TIME OF COURSE -- I DON'T THINK WE ARE EVER NOT GOING TO SAY THAT WE DON'T NEED MONEY. ANYTHING THAT IS GOING TO BE SPECIFIC TO THE NATURE OF CONDUCTING BUSINESS OR DOING IT MORE SUCCESSFUL. THE SPECIFIC GRANTS THAT I AM LOOKING AT, INFORMATION I WAS GIVEN FROM OUR FINANCE DEPARTMENT, BUT THESE ARE GRANTS, LOOKS LIKE, DEALING WITH OUR CRIME LAB AND ALSO GRANTS PERTAINING TO OUR SEXUAL ASSAULT KIT TESTING. BOTH OF THESE ARE GOING TO BE CRIME LAB RELATED AND ANYTHING PERTAINING TO THOSE AREAS AND DEALING WITH SPECIFICALLY THE NATURE OF TRYING TO WORK WITH EVIDENCE, THESE ARE COSTLY PROJECTS AND WE WOULD WELCOME THE FUNDS TO ASSIST US IN MOVING FORWARD WITH THESE INVESTIGATIONS. >> Councilor Bassan: THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE YOU ANSWERING THESE QUESTIONS AND I WILL MAKE SURE TO FOLLOW-UP WITH YOU, I HOPE. IF YOU CAN SEND INFORMATION OR POINT ME IN THE RIGHT DIRECT WHO TO ASK MORE ABOUT THE GRANTS, BECAUSE AGAIN I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE TRY TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF ALL OF THIS. >> JARAMILLO: I WILL DO THAT. I I'LL FOLLOW-UP AND GET YOU MORE INFORMATION. >> Councilor Bassan: THANK YOU. >> Coun. Davis: NEXT UP WE HAVE COUNCILOR PENA. >> Coun. Pena: THANK YOU. I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE FROM PLANNING IS ON THE CALL RIGHT NOW? I SHOULD HAVE HAD RUSSELL ANSWER THE QUESTION. >> I HAD ASKED THIS QUESTION AND IT DIDN'T GET INTO THE BOOKS. IF YOU DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER TODAY YOU KNOW, GET AN ANSWER BY NEXT WEEK. WHEN SOMEBODY GETS LIKE A BUSINESS LET'S SAY, FOR EXAMPLE, ALBERTSON GETS A SITE DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND THEY HAVE TO GET LANDSCAPING, ONCE THE BUSINESS CLOSES, OR MAYBE SELL AS PORTION OF THE SHOPPING CENTER TO SOMEONE ELSE, HOWS DID THAT ADHERENCE STILL APPLY OR DOES IT? BECAUSE -- I'LL GIVE EXAMPLE. WE HAVE THE ALBERT SONS AT CORNER OF COORS AND CENTRAL WHICH THEY STARTED TO LET THEIR GRASS DIE ONCE THEY CLOSED. I CALLED YOUR DEPARTMENT AND YOU GUYS DIDN'T EXCELLENT JOB, THEY ARE WATERING AGAIN. IS THERE A RULE THERE THEY HAVE TO ADHERE TO THAT? THEN THEY SOLD A PORTION OF THE PROPERTY AND I HAVE ALREADY CALLED IT IN. I DON'T WANT TO SAY THE NAME OF THE BUSINESS BUT ALL THE LANDSCAPING SURROUNDING, THEY JUST LET IT DIE AND NOW THERE IS JUST WEEDS. I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF THE OTHER COUNCILORS SEE THIS THIS AS AN ISSUE. YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH CPC AND MEET THRESHOLDS TO PARKING AND LANDSCAPING AND THEN HOW DO WE ENFORCE THAT? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR PENA. THE SHORT ANSWER IS THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY IS RESPONSIBLE FOR INSURING THAT THE LANDSCAPING IS MAINTAINED, IS WATERED, IF IT NEEDS TO BE REPLACED BECAUSE IT IS DEAD OR DYING, THAT OBLIGATION FALLS ON THE PROPERTY OWNER. ADDITIONALLY THERE ARE STANDARDS WITHIN THE INTEGRATED DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE AS WELL AS THE COMMERCIAL BUILDING DELAPIDATED COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS AND PROPERTIES OWNER THAT REINFORCES OR ENUMERATES THOSE REQUIREMENTS. SO, IN YOUR PARTICULAR SITUATION, WE CAN INSURE THAT THE ALBERT SONS PROPERTY MEETS THOSE REQUIREMENTS. NOTIFY MYSELF OR CODE ENFORCEMENT AND WE'LL HAVE INSPECTOR LOOK AT ISSUE AND THEN FOLLOW-UP WITH OWNER TO INSURE THAT TAKES PLACE. >> Coun. Pena: THANK YOU DIRECTOR. THEN IN THE CASE OF WHERE MAYBE ALBERTSON'S SOLD CORNER LOT FOR ANOTHER BUSINESS, AND THEY DECIDED TO DO AWAY WITH LANDSCAPING, DOES IT STILL APPLY IT CAN BE ENFORCED, ADHERING TO THE SAME LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENT. >> YES, MA'AM. THAT IS CORRECT. ALBERTSONS OR ANYBODY IF THEY SELL, IT BECOMES THAT NEW OWNER'S RESPONSIBILITY TO ADHERE TO THE PLAN. COULD BE A SITUATION WHERE NEW OWNER COMES IF AND GETS APPROVAL TO MODIFY THE PLAN BUT SIMPLY NOT PLANTING OR LETTING VEGETATION DIE OUT IS NOT AN OPTION. >> IT CREATES A CODE VIOLATION. >> Coun. Pena: SO, THANK YOU. SO, IN THE CASE OF A BUSINESS WHO CLOSES LIKE ALBERTSONS, THEY STILL HAVE TO, RIGHT, THEY STILL HAVE TO MAINTAIN IT. BECAUSE THERE IS OTHER PROPERTIES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THIS HAS BEEN HAPPENING. I UNDERSTAND IT IS TOUGH TIMES BUT IT IS REALLY KIND OF BRINGING DOWN THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHEN THEY DON'T ADHERE TO THAT. >> WHETHER THERE IS A BUSINESS THERE OR NOT, OWNER HAS A RESPONSIBILITY TO MEET THE MINIMUM STANDARD WHICH MEANS WATERING AND KEEPING THE LANDSCAPING THAT HAS BEEN APPROVED BY THE CITY. >> Coun. Pena: THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. >> Coun. Davis: NEXT UP WE HAVE COUNCILOR BORREGO. >> Coun. Borrego: I JUST HAVE A QUICK QUESTION GOING BACK TO THE LINE OF QUESTIONING FROM COUNCILOR BASSAN. I WANTED TO ASK DEPUTY CHIEF IF YOU WOULD SEND A COPY OF THE ORGANIZATIONAL CHART FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT? >> JARAMILLO: I WOULD BE HAPPY TO DO THAT. YOUR LOOKING FOR THE CURRENT ORGANIZATIONAL CHART IN. >> Councilor Bassan: CURRENT ORGANIZATIONAL CHART, YES. >> OKAY, HAPPY TO SEND THAT TO YOU AND I KNOW THERE IS A COPY OF THE CURRENT ONLINE, HOWEVER, THERE WILL BE I AM SURE THERE IS UP COME CHANGES. CAN I GET YOU WHAT WE HAVE AND CLARIFY IT MORE IN THE NEAR FUTURE. >> Coun. Borrego: THANK YOU. >> Coun. Benton: A FOLLOW-UP TO THE COMMERCIAL FRONTAGES AND PARKING LOTS AND SO FORTH. SO, THIS IS A QUESTION FOR DIRECTOR WILLIAMS AS WELL. SOMETHING OF CONCERN THE ME IS THE STREET TREE ORDINANCE. ON EVERY MAJOR CORRIDOR OR ARTERIAL, MAJOR OR MINOR, I BELIEVE ALSO ON LESSER ROADWAYS, NOT LOCAL ROADWAYS, THE STREET TREE ORDINANCE APPLIES AND THAT SAYS THAT YOU MUST PROVIDE STREET TREES ON FRONTAGE OF YOUR PROPERTY. NOW, THERE ARE -- CAN I PROVIDE YOU WITH MULTIPLE EXAMPLES OF PLACES WHERE THOSE WERE REQUIRED AT ONE TIME WHEN A DEVELOPMENT OCCURRED BUT THEN THE PROPERTY OWNERS JUST DECIDE TO EITHER CUT THEM DOWN OR LET THEM DIE. I KNOW THAT CODE ENFORCEMENT ZONING ENFORCEMENT HAS ALWAYS BEEN -- ALWAYS WANTED TO BUILD UP THE CAPACITY OF ZONING ENFORCEMENT AND IT HAS BEEN A CHALLENGE IN THE PAST WITH REGARD TO OPERATING BUDGET, BUT STREET TREES ARE SO IMPORTANT TO OUR CITY UNTIL TERMS OF JUST, IT IS ATTRACTIVENESS, IT IS THE WHOLE ISSUE WITH THE URBAN HEAT ISLAND EFFECT. MANY REASONS TO HAVE GOOD STREET TREES AND PEDESTRIANISM, ABILITY TO WALK ALONG A SIDEWALK THAT IS NOT BLAZING HOT IN THE SUMMER. ARE WE DOING ANYTHING PROACTIVELY ON LOOKING AT THAT ON EXISTING? I REALIZE I AM PROBABLY ASKING A LOT OR IS THIS SOMETHING THAT IS COMPLAINT DRIVEN WHICH I COULD PROBABLY BE A BIG COMPLAINER ABOUT IT. I JUST WANT TO ASK ABOUT THAT SPECIFIC ISSUE, DIRECTOR. >> WILLIAMS: THANK YOU FOR YOUR QUESTION. OF COURSE, AS YOU'RE AWARE WHEN A NEW PROJECT COMES IN, LANDSCAPING IS ONE OF THOSE ISSUES AND STREET TREES ARE ONE OF THOSE ISSUES THAT OUR PLAN REVIEWERS ENSURE THAT LANDSCAPING, BEDS, AREAS ARE AS WIDE AS DEEP AS THEY NEED TO BE, THEY INCLUDE APPROPRIATE AMOUNT OF VEGETATION BUT TO THE PREVIOUS PORTION OF YOUR QUESTION, ANY ENFORCEMENT ACTION AT LEAST BASED ON STREET TREES IS REACTIVE IN NATURE. IF THERE ARE AREAS OF TOWN THAT YOU OR ANY OTHER COUNCILORRERS CONCERNED ABOUT, WE CAN WORK WITH CODE ENFORCEMENT TO PERFORM A PROACTIVE SWEEP OR INSPECTION OF THAT AREA. IF THERE ARE SPECIFIC INTERSECTIONS OR PROPERTIES YOU ARE AWARE OF, PASS THAT ALONG TO ME, I'LL ENSURE STAFF GOES OUT AND PERFORMS INVESTIGATIONS AND FOLLOWS UP. >> Coun. Sena: I JUST WANTED TO FOLLOW-UP ON A QUESTION THAT I HAD ASKED AT A PREVIOUS COUNCIL MEETING AS WELL REGARDING THE COMPLIANCE WITH MINORITY BUSINESS ORDINANCES. I HAVEN'T GOTTEN AN UPDATE ON OUR CONTRACTORS AND SUBCONTRACTORS AND WOULD JUST LOVE TO HEAR WHETHER WE FOLLOW-UP OR HAVE. >> Coun. Benton: THAT INFORMATION.B E E N FOLLOWED UP SINCE THAT WAS A QUESTION LAST TIME. >> WERE YOU ASKING A QUESTION OF THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT? LET ME GET THEM? SHE DID STEP OUT FOR ONE MINUTE. >> Coun. Davis: IF MR. RAEL OR MS. NAIR, IF THEY COULD PASS THAT ALONG. >> RAEL: HAPPY TO GET THAT INFORMATION TO YOU COUNCILOR ZNA. APOLOGIZE FOR IT NOT BEING MORE TIMELY. >> Coun. Pena: I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY NOW ALL THE COUNCILORS ARE GOING TO DRIVE AROUND AND LOOK FOR ALL THESE VIOLATIONS IN THEIR DISTRICTS. THANK YOU. >> Coun. Davis: LAST CALL FOR QUESTIONS. >> SEEING NONE. I WANT TO RECOGNIZE MADAM VICE PRESIDENT FOR THE MOTION. >> Coun. Gibson: I MOVE APPROVAL OF THE SEPTEMBER 9, JOURNAL. >> Coun. Davis: THANK YOU. >> Coun. Sena: SECOND. >> Coun. Davis: I WANT TO RECOGNIZE COUNCILOR HARRIS HAS JOINED US AS PROMISED. >> Councilor Bassan: YES. >> Coun. Benton: YES. >> Coun. Borrego: YES. >> Coun. Gibson: YES. >> Coun. Harris: YES. >> Coun. Jones: YES. >> Coun. Pena: YES. >> Coun. Sena: YES. >> Coun. Davis: YES. COUNCILLOR GIBSON I BELIEVE YOU HAVE ANOTHER MOTION? >> Coun. Gibson: MR. PRESIDENT , I ALSO MOVE APPROVAL FOR THE SEPTEMBER 16TH JOURNAL. >> Coun. Davis: THANK YOU. >> Coun. Pena: SECOND. >> Councilor Bassan: YES. >> Coun. Benton: YES. >> Coun. Borrego: YES. >> Coun. Gibson: YES. >> Coun. Harris: YES. >> Coun. Jones: YES. >> Coun. Pena: YES. >> Coun. Sena: YES. >> Coun. Davis: YES. >> NEXT COUNCILORS COMMUNICATIONS AND INTRODUCTIONS. ANY CHANGES? >> Coun. Pena: I ACTUALLY MOVE APPROVAL THAT RULES BE SUSPENDED FOR THE PURPOSE OF PULLING R-81 OUT OF FINANCE AND PLACING IT ON THE AGENDA FOR ACTION. NUISANCE SUBSTANDARD DWELLING OR STRUCTURE IN NEED OF ABATEMENT 8411 CENTRAL, 87108. >> Coun. Davis: THANK YOU. I'LL SECOND THAT. APPRECIATE YOUR MOTION. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION, SEEING NONE. >> Councilor Bassan: YES. >> Coun. Benton: YES. >> Coun. Borrego: YES. >> Coun. Gibson: YES. >> Coun. Harris: YES. >> Coun. Jones: YES. >> Coun. Pena: YES. >> Coun. Sena: YES. >> Coun. Davis: YES. COUNCILOR SENA, DID YOU HAVE AN ADDITIONAL MOTION. COUNCILLOR GIBSON BACK TO YOU. >> Coun. Gibson: I MOVE APPROVAL OF THE LETTER OF INTRODUCTION. >> Coun. Davis: I THOUGHT COUNCILOR SENA WAS TRYING TO SECOND THAT. >> Coun. Pena: SECOND. >> Councilor Bassan: YES. >> Coun. Benton: YES. >> Coun. Borrego: YES. >> Coun. Gibson: YES. >> Coun. Harris: YES. >> Coun. Jones: YES. >> Coun. Pena: YES. >> Coun. Sena: YES. >> Coun. Davis: YES. >> 9-0. >> COUNCILLOR GIBSON YOU STILL HAVE THE FLOOR. >> Coun. Gibson: FINANCE AND GOVERNMENT OPERATIONS COMMITTEE MET MONDAY SEPTEMBER 14 AND REPORTS OUT FOLLOWING ITEMS. IN THE MATTER OF EC-137 THAT RECEIPT ARE NOTED. IN THE MATTER OF EC-144 THAT IT BE APPROVED. IN THE MATTER OF O-28 THAT IT BE WITHOUT RECOMMENDATION AS SUBSTITUTED. IN THE MATTER OF O-30 THAT IT BE WITHOUT RECOMMENDATION AS AMENDED. IN THE MATTER OF O-36 THAT IT BE WITHOUT RECOMMENDATION. IN THE MATTER OF R-81 AND R-97 THEY DO PASS. I MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE COMMITTEE REPORT. >> NO OTHER DISCUSSION MOTION FOR THE COMMITTEE REPORT. >> Councilor Bassan: YES. >> Coun. Benton: YES. >> Coun. Borrego: YES. >> Coun. Gibson: YES. >> Coun. Harris: YES. >> Coun. Jones: YES. >> Coun. Pena: YES. >> Coun. Sena: YES. >> Coun. Davis: YES. >> Coun. Sena: PUBLIC SAFETY MET SEPTEMBER 15 AND REPORTS OUT IN THE MATTER OF R-NITCH THAT IT BE WITHOUT RECOMMENDATION AND A MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE COMMITTEE REPORT. >> Councilor Bassan: SECOND. >> Councilor Bassan: YES. >> Coun. Benton: YES. >> Coun. Borrego: YES. >> Coun. Gibson: YES. >> Coun. Harris: YES. >> Coun. Jones: YES. >> Coun. Pena: YES. >> Coun. Sena: YES. >> Coun. Davis: YES. 9-0. >> Coun. Davis: THANK YOU. NEXT UP WE HAVE ITEMS FOR DEFERRALS AND WITHDRAWALS. >> Coun. Benton: ON O-18 IMPOSING A MUNICIPAL GASOLINE TAX OF TWO CENTS PER GALLON, I MOVE DEFERRAL UNTIL OCTOBER 5. >> Councilor Bassan: SECOND. >> Councilor Bassan: YES. >> Coun. Benton: YES. >> Coun. Borrego: YES. >> Coun. Gibson: YES. >> Coun. Harris: YES. JONES GENERALS YES. >> Coun. Pena: YES. >> Coun. Sena: YES. Z. >> Coun. Davis: YES. 9-0 ON THE DEFERRAL. >> DO YOU A MOTION OR COMMENT THERE? >> Councilor Bassan: WHEN IT IS APPROPRIATE I WOULD LIKE TO ADD SOMETHING INTO CONSENT FOR DISCUSSION. >> Coun. Davis: ONE MORE DEFERRAL AND THEN WE'LL GET TO THAT. >> Coun. Sena: R-18, NUISANCE SUBSTANDARD DWELLING OR STRUCTURE IN NEED OF ABATEMENT AT 5609 EFFORT ROAD, 87120, I AM GOING TO MOVE THIS FOR DEFERRAL UNTIL OCTOBER 5 BUT WOULD LIKE TO ACTUALLY TALK TO DIRECTOR WILLIAMS AS REALLY AN APPEAL TO THE PROPERTY OWNER. >> Councilor Bassan: SECOND. >> DIRECTOR WILLIAMS ARE YOU AVAILABLE. >> WILLIAMS: I AM HERE. >> Coun. Sena: THANK YOU. WE HAVE BEEN IN CONVERSATION ON THIS PROPERTY MULTIPLE TIMES AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THE DIRECTOR FOR MEETING WITH ME AND DISCUSSING WHAT OPTIONS WE HAVE. REALLY, THIS IS AN APPEAL TO THE PROPERTY OWNER TO REALLY REACH OUT TO THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND THAT IT IS CRITICAL WE ARE TRYING TO GET RESOURCES AVAILABLE TO THEY WILL. MULTIPLE ATTEMPTS HAVE BEEN MADE AND WE ARE MAKING EVERY WAY THAT WE CAN IN THESE TIMES TO REACH OUT AND PROVIDE SERVICES BUT THE PROPERTY OWNER HAS TO ALSO BE WILLING TO REACH OUT TO US AS WELL. SO, THIS IS JUST A DEFERRAL FOR NOW BUT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE ARE HOPING TO MOVE ON AT SOME POINT IF THE PROPERTY OWNER DOES NOT REACH OUT TO THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT. THANK YOU. >> Coun. Davis: DO YOU IS A COMMENT ON THIS? WE ARE NOT ABLE TO HEAR YOU. I AM GOING BRIEFLY TO DIRECTOR WILLIAMS. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY FOLLOW-UP TO COUNCILOR ZNA. >> WILLIAMS: OUR DEPARTMENT WILL CONTINUE TO ATTEMPT TO CONTACT OWNER. WE DO BELIEVE WE HAVE A COUPLE OF OPTIONS THEY MAY BE INTERESTED IN THAT WOULD PREVENT CONDEMNATION AND DEMOLITION. AS COUNCILOR SENA MENTIONED WE ARE APPEALING TO THEM TO CONTACT US AND WORK WITH US TO HOPEFULLY BRING ABOUT POSITIVE RESOLUTION OF THIS SITUATION. >> Coun. Davis: COUNCILLOR HARRIS WE WEREN'T ABLE TO TELL IF YOU WERE JUMPING IN. >> Coun. Harris: NO COMMENT MR. PRESIDENT. >> Coun. Sena: THANK YOU. I HOPE TO GET YOUR SUPPORT ON THIS, HOPEFULLY THE PROPERTY OWNER DOES REACH OUT TO PLANNING DEPARTMENT, THANK YOU. >> Councilor Bassan: YES. >> Coun. Benton: YES. >> Coun. Borrego: YES. >> Coun. Gibson: YES. >> Coun. Harris: YES. >> Coun. Jones: YES. >> Coun. Pena: YES. >> Coun. Sena: YES. >> Coun. Davis: YES. >> 9-0 ON THE DEFERRAL. >> Coun. Davis: NEXT UP IS CONSENT AGENDA. FOR FOLKS FOLLOWING ALONG, WE USUALLY TRY TO TAKE A BREAK BETWEEN 5:30 AND 6:00 TO DO A QUICK DINNER BREAK. I AM GOING TO TRY TO GET THROUGH THE PUBLIC HEARINGS. THOSE OF YOU TUNING IN, AND LOOKING FOR ITEM ON THE AGENDA, I EXPECT IF IT IS PAST OUR PUBLIC HEARINGS WE'LL TAKE A BREAK BEFORE WE GET TO YOU. SO THAT WOULD BE A GREAT TIME TO DO THAT. MOVING ONTO CONSENT. >> Councilor Bassan: THANK YOU. I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THAT EC-19 FOR 87 BE PULLED SO THAT WAY WE CAN HAVE MORE DISCUSSION ON IT. >> Coun. Davis: WE'LL PULL THAT. IT IS AT YOUR CONVENIENCE. >> Coun. Borrego: I WAS OFFERING A SECOND. >> Coun. Davis: ITEM A FOR THOSE FOLLOWING ALONG. >> ANY OTHER CHANGES TO CONSENT AGENDA. >> I'LL ASK MADAM VICE PRESIDENT FOR A MOTION. >> Coun. Gibson: I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO -- APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT AGENDA. >> Coun. Benton: SECOND. >> Councilor Bassan: YES. >> Coun. Benton: YES. >> Coun. Borrego: YES. >> Coun. Gibson: YES. >> Coun. Harris: YES. >> Coun. Jones: YES. >> Coun. Pena: YES. >> Coun. Sena: YES. Z. >> Coun. Davis: YES. 9-0. >> Coun. Davis: YOU HAD ASKED TO PULL ITEM A, WHICH IS EC-FOR 87. >> Councilor Bassan: IN REVIEW AUGUST THIS EC-WE HAVE, OBJECTIVE 9 TALKS ABOUT PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT AND HOW APD IS GOING TO IMPLEMENT A CAREER PATH COMPENSATION PLAN THAT ENSHROUDS ESTABLISHING LONG-TERM CAREER GOALS AND I HAVE QUESTIONS BECAUSE, IT SEEMS LIKE IF WE DON'T HAVE SOME OF THE PROPER TRAINING OR THE FORMALIZED TRAINING PLAN, DO WE HAVE THIS CAREER PATH? ARE WE ACTUALLY ENSURING THAT APD DEVELOPS CAREER PATH TRAINING FOR ALL UNITS? >> Coun. Davis: QUESTION FOR ADMINISTRATION. >> BASED OFF SOME OF THOSE OTHER RESPONSES. >> NAIR: WE ARE TRYING TO GET DEPUTY CHIEF OF STAFF ARE ME HE BACK UP ARMIJO BACK TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION. >> Coun. Davis: WE'LL REVISIT THAT IN A MINUTE. WE'LL SET THAT ASIDE AND COME BACK. >> Councilor Bassan: I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE DOT THESE I'S AND CROSS THESE T'S. >> DON'T LET ME FORGET TO THAT. AFTER PUBLIC HEARINGS. I KNOW THE CLERK WILL NUDGE ME IF I FORGET. >> WE HAVE ANNOUNCEMENTS. >> Coun. Pena: I AM HAVING HARD TIME ESPECIALLY WITH MY MUTING. ALBUQUERQUE BERNALILLO COUNTY GOVERNMENT COMMISSION MEETING SCHEDULED FOR SEPTEMBER 24 IS CANCELLED. >> Coun. Davis: ANY OTHER ANNOUNCEMENTS? SEEING NONE, NEXT UP HERE WILL BE PUBLIC HEARINGS. ONLY ONE. THE FIRST WILL BE AC -20-8. >> BEFORE CITY COUNCIL FOR ACCEPT REJECTION OF YOUR LAND USE HEARING OFFICERS RECOMMENDATION IN A MATTER ISSUE IN APPEAL IS WHETHER THE CITY'S REQUIREMENT FOR INSTALLATION OF SIDEWALKS SHOULD BE IMPOSED FOR A PROPOSED SUBDIVISION AT 15TH AND GRANITE. PROPERTY OWNER IS ATTEMPTING TO REPLAT FOUR LOTS AT THAT LOCATION AND WISHES TO BE RELIEVED OF THE SIDEWALK REQUIREMENT. THIS MATTER WAS INITIALLY BEFORE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW BOARD WHO IS IN CHARGE OF REVIEWING THAT SUBDIVISION AND OLDERRED THAT THE SIDEWALKS BE PUT IN PLACE. DECISION OF THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW BOARD APPEAL TO ENVIRONMENTAL PLANNING WHICH AFFIRMED THE DECISION OF THE DRB AGAIN REQUIRING SIDEWALKS BE PUT IN PLACE. THAT DECISION WAS APPEAL TO CITY COUNCIL AND REFERRED TO YOUR LAND USE HEARING OFFICER WHO RECOMMENDS THAT DETERMINATIONS OF THE DRB AND EPC BE AFFIRMED. THERE ARE A FEW CRITERIA UNDER WHICH SOMEBODY CAN QUALIFY FOR EXEMPTION FOR THE SIDEWALK REQUIREMENTS AND THIS REQUEST DOES NOT APPEAR TO SATISFY THOSE EXEMPTIONS. THIS IS A DEVELOPED RESIDENTIAL AREA, LARGELY SERVED BY SIDEWALKS ALTHOUGH NOT COMPLETELY BUT LARGELY SERVED. PROPERTY HAS SOME DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITY ON IT, MOST RECENTLY IN 2004 AT WHICH TIME SIDEWALKS WERE REQUIRED AND NOT INSTALLED. NOW THAT SUBDIVISION IS REQUESTED IN ORDER TO COMPLY WITH SUBDIVISION REQUIREMENTS SIDEWALKS WOULD BE REQUIRED AGAIN AT THIS TIME. AGAIN LAND USE HEARING OFFICER IS RECOMMENDING THAT EPC AND DRB BE AFFIRMED AND SIDEWALKS BE REQUIRED. YOU WILL NOT HEAR FROM THE PARTIES ONLY CONSIDERING WHETHER TO ACCEPT OR REJECT THE RECOMMENDATIONS. IF THE COUNCIL DETERMINES NOT TO ACCEPT THE LAND USE HEARINGS OFFICERS RECOMMENDATIONS WE CAN SCHEDULED FOR A FULL HEARING AT A LATER TIME. >> Coun. Davis: I SEE COUNCILOR BENTON AND GIBSON. >> Coun. Benton: I HAVE A QUESTION FOR CHRIS OR PLANNING STAFF. THERE IS A MENTION, MR. MELENDRES MENTIONED IT AND ALSO IN OTHER PARTS OF THE RECORD WITH REGARD TO WHETHER OR NOT ADJACENT EXISTING SIDEWALKS SOMEHOW AFFECT A PROPERTY OWNER'S RESPONSIBILITY TO INSTALL SIDEWALKS UNDER A CITY ACTION OR NEW DEVELOPMENT. IS THAT A CRITERIA? MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT IT IS NOT BUT I WANT TO CONFIRM THAT. >> MELENDRES: NOT DIRECTLY. THE IDO HAS CONNECTTIVITY REQUIREMENTS THAT REQUIREMENTS PEDESTRIAN CONNECTTIVITY TO HAPPEN AT CERTAIN PHASES INCLUDING SUBDIVISIONS. IN ORDER TO GET TO THAT CRITERIA YOU HAVE TO GO TO PROCESS MANUAL. THERE ARE EXEMPTIONS IN THERE SOME OF WHICH IF THERE IS NOT A GOOD LEVEL OF ACTIVITY WITHIN THAT AREA, THAT WOULD NECESSITATE A SIDEWALK, IF IT IS HISTORIC, AND SIDEWALK S WOULD HAVE NEGATIVE IMPACTS. I THINK THE POLICY OF THE IDO WITH CONNECTTIVITY IS EVEN IF AREA IS NOT WELL SERVED AND AT TIMES WHEN DEVELOPMENT COMES IN FOR SUBDIVISION OR OTHERWISE IS WHEN REQUIREMENTS WOULD BE IMPOSED. LACK OF SIDEWALKS ALONE ISN'T A DETERMINATIVE CRITERIA TO SAY THAT SIDEWALKS SHOULDN'T BE REQUIRED. >> Coun. Benton: EVEN IN A RELATIVELY MINOR DRB ACTION SUCH AS THIS, WHICH ISWE ESSENTIALLY IT IS JUST NOMENCLATURE FOR A SUBDIVISION. HE IS GOING FROM FOUR TO TWO LOTS BUT REGARDLESS IT REQUIRES PLATTING THAT GOES TO DRB BUT THIS IS PRETTY COMMON TO REQUIRE -- THAT IS A TRADINGER NFACT TO REQUIRE AMERICANS WITH KISSABILITY ACT COMPLIANT SIDEWALKS WHETHER OR NOT THERE IS A COMPLETE CONNECTTIVITY THROUGHOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THAT IS MY UNDERSTANDING. CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG. >> MELENDRES: THAT IS CORRECT. >> Coun. Gibson: I JUST WANT TO ADD ONE THING. THAT IS A CITY POLICY THAT WE INCREASE ACCESS FOR EVERYONE TO BE ABLE TO GET AROUND THE STREETS OF ALBUQUERQUE, PARTICULARLY NEIGHBORHOOD AREAS. SO, I CERTAINLY SUPPORT THAT. I THINK IT IS GOOD POLICY. SO, I AM GOING TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE THE MOTION THAT WE ACCEPT LUHO RECOMMENDATIONS AND FINDINGS AND HOPEFULLY I HAVE A SECOND. THANK YOU. >> Coun. Jones: SECOND. JUST IN CASE, COUNCILOR JONES YOU HAVE THE FLOOR. >> Coun. Jones: I JUST WANTED TO MAKE MOTION AND COUNCILLOR GIBSON GOT THERE FIRST. I DO SECOND HER MOTION. TO ACCEPT THE RECOMMENDATIONS. >> Coun. Davis: MOTION ON THE FLOOR IS TO ACCEPT LUHO RECOMMENDATIONS AND FINDINGS. DISCUSSIONS ON THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR? >> Coun. Benton: WE IRONICALLY THE LAST MEETING I PULLED SOMETHING FROM CONSENT THAT WE JUST WENT AHEAD WITH WITH REGARD TO OUR SIDEWALK POLICY AND I AM WONDERING WHO IS WATCHING, I MEAN, IT IS CONFUSING IN A SPAY WHAT HE BUT NOT UNCOMMON FOR CITIES TO REQUIRE THAT PROPERTY OWNERS DEAL WITH THEIR PUBLIC FRONTAGE INCLUDING SIDEWALKS. WE DON'T MAKE THEM BUILD CURB AND GUTTER AND THINGS LIKE THAT BUT WHEN DOING IN-FULL DEVELOPMENT, THIS IS THE WAY WE GET IT INFILLED. THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT I WAS ASKING ABOUT LAST TIME IS WE HAVE GOT A LOT OF ADA CONCERNS THROUGHOUT THE CITY BUT THIS IS THE PART WHERE TRADITIONALLY AND I HAVE HAD TO PAY THEM MYSELF, HAD TO BUY ONE MYSELF ON A SIMPLE SUBDIVISION. WHERE THE PRIVATE SECTOR IS REQUIRED TO TAKE ON THAT FRONTAGE AND ITS MAINTENANCE WITH REGARD TO THE SIDEWALK AND PLANTING STRIP AND STREET TREES IN THE CASES WHERE THOSE ARE REQUIRED. WE SHOULD EXPECT THOSE PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERS TO MAINTAIN THOSE. JUST BECAUSE IT IS WITHIN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY, EVERYONE -- THOSE PROPERTIES OWNERS AND THEIR FRONTAGE IS BENEFITING FROM PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE. THAT IS WHY IT IS DONE THIS WAY, WHETHER WE LIKE IT OR NOT, YOU KNOW, AS I SAID, IT IS A COMMON WAY OF DEALING WITH THE STREET FRONTAGE THROUGHOUT THE NATION. I AM GOING TO SUPPORT THE MOTION. >> Coun. Davis: ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR. MOTION TO ACCEPT LUHO RECOMMENDATIONS AND FINDINGS. I'LL ASK THE CLERK TO TAKE THE ROLL. >> Councilor Bassan: YES. >> Coun. Benton: YES. >> Coun. Borrego: YES. >> Coun. Gibson: YES. >> Coun. Harris: YES. >> Coun. Jones: YES. >> Coun. Pena: YES. >> Coun. Sena: YES. >> Coun. Davis: YES. >> 9-0. >> IT IS A LITTLE EARLIER THAN NORMAL BUT AS PROMISE ISED WE'LL TAKE A DINNER BREAK HERE TO COUNCILLOR BENTON'S POINT, FIRST THING UP WILL BE THAT SIDEWALK REPORT WHEN WE COME BACK FOR APPROVALS. >> Coun. Davis: WE DID HAVE COUNCILOR BASSAN. WE'LL SEE IF CHIEF ARMIJO IS HERE. EC-FOR 87. >> Councilor Bassan: THANK YOU. I KNOW THAT WAS A LITTLE RAPID WITH PULLING FROM CONSENT FOR THIS CONVERSATION BUT WE'RE HEARING THINGS THAT WE DON'T HAVE SPECIALIZED FORMALIZED TRAINING PROTOCOLS FOR THE DETECTIVE UNIT AND SUCH, SO, IF YOU LOOK AT THIS FY 19 YEAR END STATUS REPORT THAT WE GOT THROUGH THIS EC, OBJECTIVE 9, SAYS THAT THERE IS A CAREER PATH COMPENSATION PLAN -- THAT WAS ONE OF THE GOALS. IT SAYS CREATE A STANDARDIZED PROCESS FOR TESTING OF SPECIALIZED POSITIONS WITHIN APD AND SAYS CREATE A CAREER DEVELOPMENT YEARLY HANDBOOK. ENSURE EACH DIVISION OF APD DEVELOP CAREER PATH TRAINING FOR ALL UNITS. AND ENSURE ALL OFFICERS WITHIN APD HAVE REASONABLE OPPORTUNITY THE ATTEND UNIT SPECIFIC SPECIALIZED TRAINING. IT SEEMS LIKE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN COMPLETED ALREADY BEING THAT IT WAS A GOAL FROM FY 19. I AM WONDERING HAVE THIS BEEN COMPLETED OR NOT. IT SEEMS -- I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE NEED TO HELP WITH THIS. I AM HOPING TO GET INFORMATION ON IT. >> Coun. Davis: I SEE BOTH CHIEF ARMIJO AND THE COMMANDER IS HERE. I ASSUME WE CAN GO THERE. I'LL LEAVE IT TO APD. >> FIRST OF ALL I THINK THERE IS A COUPLE OF PARTS TO THAT. WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE CLARIFIED IS TO HAVE COMMANDER WHO IS DEALING WITH A LOT OF OUR CAREER DEVELOPMENT PROGRAMS SPEAK SPECIFICALLY WHAT HAS BEEN DONE. AS FAR AS IMPLEMENTING THE TRAINING IN OUR PREVIOUS CONVERSATIONS, WE CURRENTLY DO NOT HAVE THAT STANDARDIZED TRAINING BUT WE ARE IN THAT PROCESS AND PART OF THAT IS BASED ON THIS OBJECTIVE. I'LL HAVE -- I DO NOT KNOW ALL THE SPECIFICS. IF YOU COULD PLEASE JUMP IN ON THAT AND THIS IS SPECIFICALLY RELATING TO THE CAREER PATH DEVELOPMENT SPECIFIC -- PREVIOUS CONVERSATIONS WITH SPECIFIC TO INVESTIGATIONS AND SOME OF THOSE SPECIALIZED USES. >> SPECIFICALLY SPEAKING THROUGH CAREER DEVELOPMENT, ALBUQUERQUE POLICE DEPARTMENT IN THE PAST HAS HAD ACCESS TO SPECIALIZED UNITS, HOWEVER, THOSE PATHS TO THOSE SPECIALIZED UNITS HAVE BEEN SOMETHING THAT OFFICERS NEEDED TO NAVIGATE ON THEIR OWN. IF THEY STARTED THE POLICE ACADEMY AND THEY HAVE ALWAYS HAD INSPIRATION TO BE A HOMICIDE DETECTIVE. THEY WOULD KIND OF LEFT ON THEIR OWN TO FIGURE A WAY TO FIND A PATH TO GO TO ONE OF THESE SPECIALIZED UNITS. MAYBE THEY HAD BIG INTEREST IN FORENSICS AND WANTED TO GO TO CRIME LAB. THEY HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHEN THE POSITIONS ARE AVAILABLE, ACTUAL TRAINING FOR THOSE POSITIONS WOULD BE SOMEWHAT LIMITED DEPENDING ON THE POSITION. OFFICERS WOULD NEED TO REALLY, LET'S SAY THEY OBTAIN THE POSITIONS, DOWN THE ROAD, THEY WOULD BE LEFT TO KIND OF LEARN ON THE JOB, IF YOU WILL. AND BY THE TIME A DETECTIVE AND SOME OF THESE SPECIALIZED UNITS WAS ABLE TO REALLY GET UP TO SPEED, THEY MIGHT BE SIX MONTHS, A YEAR INTO ASSIGNMENTS. FOCUS OF THE DEVELOPMENT CATALOG WAS TO ALLOW AN OFFICER WHETHER THEY HAVE 10 YEARS OR 20 YEARS OR BRAND NEW IN THE ACADEMY TO SEE APD FOR ALL THAT IT HAS TO OFFER. ALL FOUR CORNERS OF THE ORGANIZATION. THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE PROMOTIONS. Z SO, ASSIGNMENTS TO A DETECTIVE ARE NOT TIED TO COMPENSATION. IT IS SIMPLY AN ASSIGNMENT. THEY WOULD ESSENTIALLY HAVE A CATALOG IN WHICH THEY WOULD DECIDE WHAT CAREER PATH THEY WANT TO GO DOWN AND WE WOULD HAVE THE PATH CUT OUT FOR THEM AND REALLY FORMED SO THEY WOULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO ATTEND TRAINING THAT WOULD BE UNIT SPECIFIC SO WHEN THEY, THEN, GOT THE OPPORTUNITY TO TEST FOR THE POSITION, NOT ONLY WOULD THEY BE BETTER PREPARED, THEY WOULD ALSO BE READY DAY ONE. THE LEARNING CURVE WOULD BE MUCH LESS. THAT IS INTENT OF THE CAREER DEVELOPMENT DAD LOG AND CATALO. I AM LOOKING AT A SPECIAL ORDER 20-45 AND THE ACTUAL IMPLEMENTATION DATE FOR THE FINAL PROCESS IS APRIL 1 OF 2021 TO GO IN EFFECT IN AUGUST WHICH IS USUALLY OUR BID IN 2021. >> Councilor Bassan: SO, THAT HELPS. THANK YOU. I MEAN, IT SEEMS LIKE I AM READING WE HAVE THIS ALREADY AND BEING TOLD WE DON'T HAVE IT. I REALLY WANTED TO CLARIFY. IT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF MAKING IT HAPPEN AND WE CAN COUNT ON IT APRIL 1, NEXT YEAR. >> COMMANDER: ABSOLUTELY. SOME OF THESE CHALLENGES HAVE INVOLVED SEVEN STEP PROCESS, ALL TRAINING THAT WE DEVELOP HAS TO GO THROUGH A VERY RIGID PROCESS THAT IS EVENTUALLY APPROVED THROUGH SANTA FE AND GIVEN A DPS CERTIFICATION NUMBER. SO, IT IS THEN OFFERED TO OUR OFFICERSES. CERTAINLY SOME OF THE CHALLENGES. CODE OF HAS PRESENTED PROCESS CHALLENGES. WE HAVE MOVED THROUGH THAT AND THIS SPECIAL ORDER CLEARLY DELINEATES A TIME LINE THAT THIS WILL BE COMPLETED BIO BY APRIL OF NEXT YEAR THIS WILL BE READY TO GO AND READY TO BE IMPLEMENTED BY AUGUST AT THE 2021 BID FOR THE OFFICERS. >> Coun. Davis: WE HAVEN'T SEEN YOU AT COUNCIL FOR A WHILE. GOOD TO SEE YOU. THANK YOU FOR JUMPING IN. >> DO YOU HAVE A MOTION FOR RECEIPT BE NOTED ON THAT ITEM. >> Councilor Bassan: YES I DO. PLEASE. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR RECEIPT BE NOTED. ON THAT ITEM SO THAT WE CAN GET THE FOLLOW THROUGH. >> Coun. Borrego: SECOND. >> Councilor Bassan: YES. >> Coun. Benton: YES. >> Coun. Borrego: YES. >> Coun. Gibson: YES. >> Coun. Harris: YES. >> Coun. Jones: YES. >> Coun. Pena: YES. >> Coun. Sena: YES. >> Coun. Davis: YES. 9-0. >> Coun. Davis: THANK YOU ALL. AS I STARTED TO SAY WE'LL DO THE LUNCH BREAK NOW. WE'LL TAKE ABOUT 20 MINUTES UNTIL ABOUT 5:45 AND SO WE'LL SEE YOU BACK AT 5:45 AND JUMP INTO AGENDA AS OUTLINED. (COUNCIL IN RECESS) >> I MOVE DO PASS COUNCILLOR GIBSON HAD THE SECOND. COUNCILORS AS SPONSOR LET ME EXPLAIN IT BRIEFLY. WE HAVE CITY ATTORNEYS AVAILABLE. LEGISLATION IS STRAIGHTFORWARD. IT SAYS -- DOESN'T MAKE A JUDGMENT ABOUT WHO SHOULD OR SHOULD NOT POSSESS A FIREARM. IT DOES SAY THAT IF YOU HAVE A FIREARM IN YOUR PERSONAL POSSESSION AND WALK AWAY FROM IT, YOUR RESPONSIBLE TO STORE IT OR SECURE IT SO THAT UNAUTHORIZED PERSONS CAN'T ACCESS IT, WHETHER THAT IS JUVENILES IN THE HOME WHERE WE HAVE SEEN A NUMBER FALL INTO THE HANDS OF JUVENILES FOR ELICIT PURPOSES AND SUICIDES OR ACCIDENT AM SHOOTING OR TO ELIMINATE WHEN APD REPORTED IN 2018 WE HAD MORE THAN 1000 FIREARMS STOLEN FROM VEHICLES IN THE CITY. ALL ENDING UP IN THE CRIMINAL MARKET NATURALLY. CONTRIBUTING TO GUN VIOLENCE. SO THIS IS SIMPLY A MECHANISM BY WHICH REQUIRING THAT ANYONE WHO POSSESS AS FIREARM IN THE CITY WHO WALKS AWAY, SECURE IT SO IT IS NOT AS ACCESSIBLE TO SOMEONE ELSE. IT ALSO PROVIDES THAT IF A PERSON FAILS TO DO SO OF COURSE A POLICE INVESTIGATION AND THEY WERE ABLE TO DEMONSTRATE THEY HAD TAKEN STEPS TO REMEDY THAT IN THE FUTURE, SAY, BY BUYING A GUN LOCK OR CHANGING THOSE PRACTICES THAT THE CITY HAS A PROCESS FOR DISMISSING THAT CASE. IT IS ENCOURAGEMENT FOR SOMEONE TO COMPLY AND NOT GENERATE A CRIME, IF SOMEONE WERE TO VIOLATE THIS IT IS PETTY MISDEMEANOR. WILL MOTION AND SECOND FROM COUNCILLOR GIBSON. OPEN THE FLOOR TO COUNCILORS OR ADMINISTRATION. >> Councilor Bassan: I NEED TO BE CLEAR FOR CONSTITUENTS. I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS. HOW DO WE ENFORCE THIS IS GOING TO HAPPEN IN. >> Coun. Davis: LET ME START BY SAYING, LIKE A LOT OF LAWS, SEAT BELTS AND OTHERS, FACT IS MAJORITY IS A PUBLIC EXPECTATION. IT IS OUR COMMUNITY EXPECTATION. POLICE COULD ENFORCE IT IF THEY WERE TO COME ACROSS IT. IF THEY WERE OTHERWISE LAWFULLY IN A HOME FOR ANOTHER CALL, THEY COULD CITE AN OWNER. AGAIN, THIS IS NOT ONE OF THOSE WHERE THE POLICE HAVE ABILITY TO GO SEARCH YOUR HOUSE OR CAR TO SEE IF YOU HAVE DONE THIS BUT IT IS AN INCENTIVE AND ENCOURAGEMENT AND WOULD BE THE LAW THAT WOULD REQUIRE YOU TO DO SO. >> Councilor Bassan: I HAVE A COUPLE MORE QUESTIONS TO FOLLOW-UP. THIS ONE MAY BE ACTUALLY FOR APD. IN REGARDS TO THIS ORDINANCE, HOW IS THIS EXPECTED TO TRULY REDUCE CRIME AND THEFT? MY REASONING FOR THAT IS I REALLY WONDER IF PEOPLE CRIMINALS ARE GOING TO SEE A GUN THAT HAS A LOCK ON IT AND CHOOSE NOT TO ROB THAT CAR WHEN THEY MIGHT JUST TAKE IT ANYWAY AND WORK THEIR MIDWAY GETTING LOCKS OFF. IS THIS REALLY EXPECTED TO REDUCE THEFT AND IMPROVE CRIME STATUS IN ALBUQUERQUE. >> Coun. Davis: I SEE THE CITY ATTORNEY IS AVAILABLE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. I THINK ADMINISTRATION HAS ASKED TO ANSWER SOME OF THESE. PERHAPS WE HAVE APD EXPERT AVAILABLE. MR. AGUILAR FOR YOU OR DEFER THIS TO APD. >> AGUILAR: THIS IS AN APD QUESTION. >> THERE IS CHIEF ARMIJO. >> ARMIJO: YOU KNOW, WE DEAL WITH AS FAR AS LAW ENFORCEMENT FUNCTION, WE DO DEAL WITH A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF FIREARMS THAT WE FIND WIND UP IN THE HANDS OF THE CRIMINALS, YOUTH AND WE WOULD ALWAYS ENCOURAGE THE RESPONSIBILITY GUN OWNERSHIP WHICH SHOULD INCLUDE THE SECURING OF FIREARMS IF IT IS NOT DIRECTLY WITH SOMEONE, AND AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, LAW ENFORCEMENT, I GUESS, ACTION BEHIND THAT, IS THAT WE WOULD ALWAYS MOVE FORWARD TO HOPE THAT PEOPLE ARE SECURING THEIR FIREARMS RESPONSIBLY. >> Councilor Bassan: THANK YOU. SO, NOW THIS IS MORE COUNCILOR DAVIS, RESPECTFULLY YOU SAID THIS IS MORE TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO COMPLY. I THINK THAT IN AND OF ITSELF IS MAKING THE STATEMENT OF EXACTLY HOW WE NEED TO VOTE. WE NEED TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO COMPLY BUT NOT MANDATE THEM BY SOME ORDINANCE THAT IS GOING THE RESTRICT LAW BIDING CITIZENS MORE. AS TO WHAT DEPUTY CHIEF SAID WE SHOULD ENCOURAGE RESPONSIBLE FIREARM OWNERSHIP. I AGREE I THINK IDEOLOGY BEHIND THIS IS EXQUISITE. IF THEY ARE NOT ON THEIR PERSON, DO THE RIGHT THING AND KEEP IT AWAY FROM CHILDREN OR POTENTIAL ACCIDENTS. I THINK THIS IS ANOTHER WAY TO RESTRICT LAW BIDING CITIZENS FROM THE USE OF THEIR OWN PROPERTY AND POTENTIALLY FOR DEFENSE AND SO ON AND SO FORTH. I ABSOLUTELY CANNOT SUPPORT THIS. I REALLY HOPE THAT IT IS WILL OF THE COUNCIL TO SEE THIS IS NOT GOING AFTER MORE OF THE CRIMINALS AGAIN, THIS IS RESTRICTING THE LAW BIDING CITIZENS MORE. >> Coun. Jones: THIS IS A PIECE OF LEGISLATION TO MAKE PEOPLE FEEL GOOD AND MAYBE THINK WE ARE GOING TO FIX SOMETHING. IT IS LIKE LAWS WE HAVE THAT WE DO NOT AND CANNOT ENFORCE BECAUSE OF THE TIME FACTOR. IT SEEMS STRANGE THAT WE WOULD PUT REQUIREMENTS ON LAW BIDING CITIZENS AND YET WE HAVE CRIMINALS WHO FIND GUNS ON THE STREET, HAVE GUNS AND THEY ARE NORMALLY AND OFTENTIMES COMMITTING A CRIME AND HAVE A RECORD AND, YET, WE THE HONEST LAW BIDING CITIZENS, WOULD BE IN THE SAME CATEGORY IF YOU WERE TO NOT COMPLY WITH THIS LEGISLATION. IT IS EXPENSIVE PIECE OF LEGISLATION FOR OWNERS, IF THEY WANT TO LOCK UP WEAPONS. IF EVERY WEAPON IS IN A DIFFERENT PLACE AND THEY HAVE TO HAVE DIFFERENT TYPES OF SECURED FACILITIES FOR THEM. WHAT ABOUT THE LAW BIDING CITIZEN WHO KEEPS A WEAPON IN THEIR HOME OR IN THEIR AUTOMOBILE TO DEFEND THEMSELVES. AS A COUNTRY WE STILL HAVE THE RIGHT TO DEFEND OURSELVES. SO, WOULD WE BE TAKING AWAY FROM THE LAW BIDING CITIZENS THEIR RIGHT TO DEFEND THEMSELVES AND YET BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE IT IN A LOCKED AREA, YET, THE CRIMINALS WHO BREAK INTO OUR HOMES CARRYING WEAPONS, ARE OUT BEFORE THEY CAN EVEN BE BOOK INTOED A JAIL. E D I N T O A JAIL. >> I THINK IT IS A PIECE OF LEGISLATION, I AM SORRY, MR. PRESIDENT, I RESPECT YOU A GREAT DEAL BUT I DON'T THINK THIS IS SOMETHING WE SHOULD BE WASTING OUR TIME AND ENERGY AND OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT RESOURCES ON. SO, I WILL NOT SUPPORT THIS LEGISLATION. THANK YOU. >> Coun. Benton: IT IS CLEAR TO ANYONE, EVEN THINKING ABOUT THIS, WOULD BE THERE IS NO EXPECTATION THAT OR SOMEBODY IS GOING INTO PEOPLES' HOUSES AND CHECK ON THEIR MANAGEMENT OF THEIR OWN PRIVATE WEAPONS. HOWEVER, THE IDEA OF SETTING AN EXPECTATION. HERE IS A SCENARIO. AN UNSECURED FIREARM IS USED BY A MINE OR IN A HOME FOR A CRIME, YES, AT THAT POINT THE PROVIDENCE OF THAT FIREARM WHICH IS BASICALLY IT WAS UNSECURED BY THE PARENT, BY THE RESPONSIBLE PARTY IN THE HOME, WOULD BE SUBJECT TO SOME RESPONSIBILITY FOR THAT CRIME. THAT IS MY VERY SIMPLE EXAMPLE OF WHAT THIS IS ABOUT. I THINK THAT IS RIGHT. HELP ME OUT, MR. PRESIDENT. YOU DRAFTED THIS. BUT, THAT IS MY UNDERSTANDING OF IT AND THAT IS WHY I SUPPORT IT. THANK YOU MR. PRESIDENT. >> Coun. Davis: YOUR RIGHT TO CLARIFY. IT IS A DEFENSE ACCORDING TO WRITTEN IN THE LANGUAGE DEFENSE TO THE CHARGE IF YOU CAN SHOW IT WAS LAWFULLY SECURED AND SOMEONE DEFEATED THAT MECHANISM. >> Coun. Benton: THAT IS THE POINT IS LIKE BLATANT FAILURE TO SECURE A WEAPON IS IN MY MIND, IRRESPONSIBLE IN A HOUSEHOLD WITH MINORS. THANK YOU. >> Coun. Davis: NEXT I AM GOING TO TAKE COUNCILLOR GIBSON BECAUSE SHE HASN'T SPOKEN YET. WITH NO NEW, I'LL GO TO THOSE THAT SPOKE BEFORE. >> Coun. Gibson: THANK YOU. SO, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE A COUPLE OF STATEMENTS ABOUT GENERAL TOPIC THAT I HAVE HEARD SO FAR. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE SET POLICIES IN THIS COUNTRY FOR, WHAT, OVER 200 YEARS AND THEY DON'T ALWAYS TOOK ROOT, YOU KNOW. ENCOURAGING MIGHT HELP A BIT BUT THERE ARE THINGS -- BIG POLICIES, CIVIL RIGHTS -- THERE IS A GOOD ONE THAT NEEDED MORE THAN JUST THE CIVIL RIGHTS LAWS. >> NEED ED WORK. THAT IS WHAT I SEE THIS AS DOING. THIS IS SENDING A MESSAGE THAT THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE IS SERIOUS ABOUT GUN SAFETY. THIS IS NO WAY SAYS ANYTHING ABOUT GUN OWNERSHIP OR POSSESSION OF FIREARMS BUT THAT SIMPLY IT IS A VERY COMMON SENSE WAY TO LOOK AT BEING A RESPONSIBLE GUN OWNER WHICH I THINK THERE IS SO MANY PEOPLE WHO ARE. RIFLES OR HANDGUNS, I HAVE A SAFE TO PUT THEM IN OR SOME OTHER WAY TO LOCK THEM UP AND TO KEEP THEM OUT OF EITHER A BURGLAR'S HANDS, FOR EXAMPLE, OR A CHILD'S HANDS. SO, THE NOTION THAT WE'RE DOING SOMETHING TO LAW BIDING CITIZENS AND WE ARE NOT DOING ENOUGH TO HOLD LAW BREAKERS RESPONSIBLE, I DON'T THINK IS AN ARGUEMENT THAT REALLY FITS IN HERE VERY WELL FOR ME. THE LAW ABIDING CITIZEN, I BELIEVE, JUST LIKE I SAID, THEY ARE DOING WHAT THEY NEED TO DO TO KEEP THEIR GUNS FROM BEING STOLEN AND USED IN ANOTHER CRIME, BEING USED IN ACCIDENT WITH CHILDREN. >> WE ALL GOT THE HUNDREDS OF EMAILS, ESSENTIALLY THE SAME THING. I KNOW SOME OF THE PEOPLE. I GOT EMAILS FROM I REALLY QUESTION WHAT THEIR THOUGHT IS ON THIS, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE GET EMAILS LIKE THIS AND ALL KINDS OF TOPICS THAT RAISE CONTROVERSY. PRETTY MUCH A CLICK HERE AND THAT IS WHAT GENERATED THEM. SO, BUT, YOU KNOW, I MEAN EVERYBODY HAS GOT AN OPINION, EVERYBODY DESERVES TO BE ABLE TO BE HEARD AND SAY WHAT THEY WANT TO SAY. I AM SAYING IN THIS CASE WE ARE WELL WITHIN THE LAW HERE. I THINK THAT OUR INTENTION -- THIS IS A GOOD WAY OF INDICATING OUR INTENTION SO THAT PEOPLE WHO MAY NOT HAVE REALLY THOUGHT ABOUT HOW THEY KEEP THEIR FIREARMS IN THEIR HOMES OR OFFICES OR IN THEIR CARS, WHICH IS REALLY FRIGHTENING, BUT, MAYBE THIS WILL HELP THEM THINK ABOUT IT A LITTLE BIT MORE AND MAYBE COME UP WITH A BETTER PLAN. I AM SURE THAT PEOPLE WHO ARE LISTENING TO THIS MEETING RIGHT NOW AND MANY OF YOU WHO ARE PARTICIPATING IN THIS MEETING OR LISTENING, PROBABLY DO HAVE FIREARMS AT HOME. EITHER FOR SPORT OR PROTECTION AND I AM SURE MOST OF YOU ARE DOING THE RIGHT THING TO THE BEST OF YOUR ABILITY TO KEEP THEM OUT OF THE WRONG HANDS. THIS JUST REINFORCES THAT. THAT IS REALLY ALL I HAVE TO SAY. THANK YOU. >> Coun. Davis: BACK TO COUNCILORS THAT HAVE SPOKEN BEFORE. >> AGUILAR: JUST AS A GENERAL MATTER REGARDING ALL THREE PIECES OF LEGISLATION. ARTICLE II AS COUNCIL IS AWARE, ARTICLE II OF THE NEW MEXICO CONSTITUTION PROVIDES THAT NO MUNICIPALITY OR COUNTY SHALL REGULATE ANY INCIDENT OF THE RIGHT TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS. SO, CREATING NEW LEGISLATION MIGHT POSE CHALLENGES TO THE CONSTITUTIONALITY. I THINK THE QUESTION ON O-82 IS LESS CERTAIN THAN O-83 DEALING WITH FACILITY. IS THERE IS A TREMENDOUS BODY OF LAW RELATING TO REGULATIONS OF THE MANNER IN WHICH A FIREARM IS STORED. THERE ISN'T THE SAME BODY OF LAW REGARDING THE RIGHT TO KEEP ARMS. SO, ALL THAT BEING SAID, I AM AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS BUT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE TO ADDRESS THAT BECAUSE I HEARD THE COMMENT ABOUT THE LAW AND IT IS UNSETTLED. >> Coun. Gibson: WHAT YOU SAID IS EXACTLY WHAT I SAID. WE ARE NOT ADDRESSING WHO CAN OWN OR NOT OWN OR PROCESS OR NOT PROCESS. THANK YOU. SORRY TO INTERRUPT. >> AGUILAR: I UNDERSTAND THAT JUST AS A MATTER OF LAW THE CONSTITUTION SAYS THAT A COUNTY OR MUNICIPALITY CANNOT REGULATE. THAT IS IT. THAT IS THE ONLY POINT I WANTED TO MAKE. >> Coun. Gibson: OWNERSHIP OR POSSESSION? IS THAT CORRECT? >> AGUILAR: WHAT DO YOU MEAN OWNERSHIP OR POSSESSION. CONSTITUTION DOESN'T PROVIDE THAT. IT JUST SAYS, NO MUNICIPALITY OR COUNTY SHALL REGULATE IN ANY MANNER INCIDENT OF THE RIGHT TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS. >> Coun. Gibson: TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS MEANS TO POSSESSION OR OWN. THAT IS WHAT I SAID. >> Coun. Davis: THANK YOU. COUNCILOR JONES? >> Coun. Jones: IS THIS ISSUE HAS A STRONG DIVIDING LINE IN IT. I JUST GO BACK TO COMMON SENSE, WHICH IS WE PROSECUTE SOMEONE THAT BREAKS INTO A GARAGE AND STEALS THEIR CAR, DON'T HAVE KEYS IN IT. WILL THEY BE PROSECUTED IF THAT PERSON THAT HAS STOLEN THEIR CAR AND RUNS INTO THEM AND HAS A CAR WRECK, IS THAT CAUSE FOR PROSECUTION. >> Coun. Jones: QUESTION FOR THE SPONSOR, WOULD BE GREAT. >> Coun. Davis: OF COURSE NOT BUT WE DO PROSECUTE PERSONS FOR EXAMPLE WHO PROVIDE ACCESS TO THEIR VEHICLE FOR PERSONS WHO ARE KNOWINGLY INTOXICATED, FOR EXAMPLE. THERE IS A RESPONSIBILITY FOR OWNING A CAR BUT THIS IS DIFFERENT. AS WE ALL KNOW. THESE ARE NOT CONSTRUCTION TOOLS OR CARS, THESE ARE WEAPONS OF VIOLENCE AND COME WITH A RESPONSIBILITY AT LEAST IN MY OPINION. I THINK CHOOSING TO OWN ONE OF THESE COMES WITH THAT RESPONSIBILITY. I DO APPRECIATE THE QUESTION. >> Coun. Jones: THANK YOU. SO, I HAVE VERY SHARP CARVING KNIVES IN A DRAWER FSOMEONE BREAKS INTO MY HOUSE AND STEALS MY CARVING KNIFE AND STABS SOMEONE WITH IT, AM I LIABLE FOR THAT? THEY ARE OBVIOUSLY VERY DANGEROUS, VERY SHARP. I DON'T HAVE THEM LOCKED UP. IT IS KIND OF LIKE A GUN ISN'T IT, BUT DOESN'T HAVE BULLETS. I CAN'T UNDERSTAND HOW THE LOPIDING CITIZENS WHO HAS PURCHASED A WEAPON, HAS A PERMIT, PURCHASED IT LAWFULLY. AND THEY CAN BE -- THEY CAN BE HELD LIABLE AND CHARGE $FOR SOMETHING, YET A PERSON WHO BREAK MY HOME AND STEALS MY WEAPON AND SHOOTS SOMEONE WITH IT, IS A PERSON WHO HAS COMMITTED MULTIPLE CRIMES AND FAR TOO OFTEN, THEY ARE NOT PROSECUTED. I CERTAINLY DO NOT BELIEVE THIS IS A GOOD IDEA. >> Councilor Bassan: THANK YOU. FOLLOWING UP WITH A COUPLE OF THE COMMENTS FROM THE OTHER COUNCILORS, SO, I AM A RESPONSIBLE FIREARM OWNER AND WE HAVE A GUN SAFE AND DO EVERYTHING TO KEEP OUR CHILDREN SAFE AND AWAY FROM THEM. THEY CANNOT GET INTO THIS. I CAN TELL YOU AS A PARENT THAT IF I WERE TO COME HOME WITH MY CHILD FINDING A FIREARM ANYWHERE, WHETHER IT BE AT THEIR FRIENDSES USE WHO ARE MINE, LET'S JUST SAY IT FOR WHAT IT IS. WHAT COUNCILOR BENTON I THINK WAS ALLUDING, THERE IS KIDS THAT SHOOT EACH OTHER, BY ACCIDENT. WE ARE TRYING TO PREVENT THAT. I COMPLETELY GOD FOR BID. I DON'T WANT THAT TO HAPPEN TO ANYBODY. I DO THINK WE SHOULD BE RESPONSIBLE AND PREVENT THAT. IS THAT FAMILY NOW ON TOP OF THE FACTS THEIR KID DID SOMETHING WRONG, NOW WE ARE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND PUT A PETTY MISDEMEANOR ON TOP OF THAT BECAUSE THE HURT IS ALREADY SOMETHING THAT IS THERE. THAT IS A BIG TROUBLE THAT I HAVE WITH IT AS WELL. ALSO GOING TO -- IN RESPONSE TO THE ARTICLE II, I JUST, YES, GOING BACK TO FIREARMS, ITS IS NOT OUR JOB TO BE DOING THIS. DO I HAVE A QUESTION FOR COUNCILOR GIBSON. YOU SAID THAT IT IS NOT REALLY FOCUSING ON THE LAW BREAKERS. SO, HOW IS THIS FOCUSING ON THE LAW BREAKERS? TO ME BREAKERS. THIS IS NOT DOING ANYTHING PROACTIVELY TO REDUCE CRIME AND REALLY MANDATE SOMETHING THAT IS GOING TOWARDS LAW BREAKERS. >> Coun. Davis: YOU WERE INVOKED IF YOU CHOOSE TO RESPOND. WE ALSO HAVE COUNCILORS BEHIND YOU. >> Coun. Gibson: I HAVE THIS FAN. I JUST TURNED THE FAN OFF. I DIDN'T HEAR THE SPECIFIC QUESTION, SOMETHING ABOUT -- >> Councilor Bassan: COUNCILOR GIBSON, YOU SAID THIS IS NOT REALLY FOCUSING ON LAW BREAKERS. I AM WONDERING HOW DOES THIS ORDINANCE REALLY TRULY FOCUS ON THE LAW BREAKERS IN THE PROACTIVE WAY, LEGALITY IS SOMETHING WE SHOULD BE CREATING FOR THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE. >> Coun. Gibson: I THINK, COUNCILOR, MR. PRESIDENT, IF I MAY, I THINK THAT WAS PART OF THE BROADER THOUGHT. OBVIOUSLY WE WANT EVERYBODY TO USE CARE AND CAUTION AND BE SAFE AROUND FIREARMS. SO, I AM NOT SURE EXACTLY WHAT I WAS MEANING AND WHAT MY POINT WAS WHEN I USED THAT PHRASE, BUT, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WHO ARE ALREADY DOING THIS, YOU KNOW, LOCKING UP THEIR GUNS, TAKING PRECAUTIONS, THIS DOESN'T REALLY AFFECT THEM. RIGHT? IT WILL BE THE PEOPLE WHO, YOU KNOW, HAVEN'T BEEN LOCKING UP THEIR GUNS, HAVE NOT BEEN TAKING PRECAUTIONS. TO KEEP GUNS AWAY FROM KIDS OR PEOPLE WHO JUST SHOULDN'T HAVE THEM IN THEIR HOME WITH THEIR PERMISSION OR WITHOUT THEIR PERMISSION. >> Councilor Bassan: ONE PORE MORE COMMENTS. I DON'T THINK THIS LEGISLATION IS GOING TO ACTUALLY PROACTIVELY DO SOMETHING TO PUNISH OR PENALIZE OR PREVENT THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT BEING RESPONSIBLE TO ACTUALLY DO IT. I FIND TROUBLE IN THAT AND THEN THE INTENTION, THE OTHER THING THAT WAS SAID WAS, OUR INTENTION WAS MENTIONED BY COUNCILLOR GIBSON. INTENTION SHOULD NOT BE LAW, LIKE I JUST DON'T BELIEVE THAT WHAT WE ARE DOING AS A COUNCIL AND BY ORDINANCES AND RESOLUTIONS, THAT SHOULDN'T MEAN OUR INTENTION. IF IT IS OUR INTENTION TO ENCOURAGE PROPER GUN STORAGE, LET'S DO A MEMORIAL. >> Coun. Borrego: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. SO, I APOLOGIZE IF MY DOG IS PARKING BECAUSE SOMEBODY IS WALKING BY. SO, I HOPE SHE DOESN'T BARK WHILE I AM TALKING. SO, LIKE ALL OF YOU, I HAVE RECEIVED ALL THESE EMAILS. PROBABLY I THINK MY ASSISTANT TOLD ME THERE WAS AS OF NOON TODAY, OVER 600 IN OPPOSITION AND TWO IN FAVOR. I ALWAYS LOOK TO SEE HOW MANY OF THOSE EMAILS COME FROM MY CONSTITUENCY BECAUSE IT IS IMPORTANT TO ME WHAT THEY ARE THINKING AS WELL. THE THING ABOUT BEING A GUN OWNER, WHICH I AM, IS NOT DEMOCRATIC OR REPUBLICAN. IT IS QUESTION OF BEING RESPONSIBLE AND UNDERSTANDING THAT WHEN YOU PURCHASE A GUN AND YOUR LEGALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT GUN. YOU HAVE RESPONSIBILITY TO KEEP IT SAFE AND KEEP IT OUT OF REACH. I RECENTLY VISITED AND I WON'T SAY WHAT GUN SHOP. THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHO IT WAS BECAUSE I HAD MY SUN GLASSES ON AND MY NAIR A PONYTAIL. I FOUND THERE ARE CONCERNS THAT DO I HAVE WHEN DO YOU BUY A GUN IS THAT MAYBE WE'RE FOCUSING IN THE WRONG PLACE. MAYBE WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT REQUIRING THAT ALL GUN PURCHASES HAVE SOME KIND OF A PERMITTING PROCESS THAT IS -- I KNOW THERE IS TO SOME EXTENT ONE, BUT, MAYBE, LOOKING AT BEING MORE INTRACAT ABOUT HOW GUNS ARE PURCHASED. THE OTHER THING I WANT TO TALK ABOUT IS WHEN ENFORCEMENT PART OF THIS AND I HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THAT, PARTICULARLY, BECAUSE YOU KNOW, IF I HAD A DOMESTIC VIOLENCE SITUATION OR SOMETHING IN MY HOME, HOW DO THE POLICE SAY, YOU KNOW, I WANT TO KNOW WHERE YOUR GUN IS. I THOUGHT THERE WAS A RIGHT TO A SEARCH WANTER WHENEVER OFFICER CAME INTO YOUR HOME OR INTO YOUR CAR. HOW WOULD APD ENFORCE THIS AND I DON'T SEE THAT IT IS CLEARLY WRITTEN IN THIS PARTICULAR LEGISLATION. THE OTHER THING IS I AM VERY CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT OUR CITY ATTORNEY SAID. Z FOR THOSE REASONS I WON'T BE SUPPORTING THIS. >> Coun. Jones: I JUST GOT INTERESTING COMMENT FROM SOMEONE WHO HAS BEEN IN LAW ENFORCEMENT FOR QUITE SOME TIME, QUESTION, HOW MANY PEOPLE WILL NOT REPORT GUNS STOLEN TO AVOID PROSECUTION OR A PETTY MISDEMEANOR AND WILL IT KEEP STOLEN GUNS ADDED INTO NCIC AND NECESSARY PROSECUTION TO BE HAD IF A GUN IS STOLEN IF USED IN A CRIME BECAUSE THEY WON'T HAVE HISTORY ON IT. I THINK ONCE AGAIN WE ARE GIVING BAD GUYS ADVANTAGE ON THIS. I AM NOT SURE WHAT THE FALL OUT WOULD BE BUT I DON'T THINK IT IS GOING TO BE AS ROSY AS SOME OF THE PEOPLE WHO THINK IT MIGHT BE. >> Coun. Davis: LET ME START BY RESPONDING TO YOURS. THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP. WHEN WE ANNOUNCED THIS LEGISLATION ORIGINALLY, WE SPECIFICALLY REFERENCE ADD STORY IN ALBUQUERQUE JOURNAL FROM APRIL 19, 2018. RYAN AT THE JOURNAL DID A STORY THAT SAID APD REPORTED MORE THAN 1000 GUNS STOLEN FROM CARS IN CITY IN JUST OVER A YEAR. SPRAYINGLY I THINK TO A LOT OF US WHEN WE LOOKED AT THAT, THERE IS ASSUMPTION RIGHT, NEIGHBORHOODS IN THE CITY WE HAVE GUN VIOLENCE IS A PLAYING ACROSS ENTIRE CITY BUT SOME NEIGHBORHOODS BEAR THAT BURDEN MORE THAN OTHERS. WE WERE ALL SURPRISED TO SEE APD DATA THAT SHOWED MORE THAN 500 GUNS STOLEN -- I WANT TO BE SURE I GET THIS RIGHT -- OF THE 500 OR SO GUNS STOLEN IN TWO YEAR PERIOD OVER PARTS OF THE CITY, MAJORITY OF THE GUNS WERE STOLEN FROM NORTHEAST AREA COMMAND. THAT AREA OF TOWN HAD MORE THAN 320 GUNS STOLEN FROM AUTOMOBILES DURING THIS PERIOD COMPARE THAT TO THE SOUTHEAST PART OF TOWN WHICH LIKE COUNCILLOR PENA'S DISTRICT EXHIBITS HIGHER THAN OUR PROMOTION OF GUN VIOLENCE, LESS THAN 200 GUNS WERE STOLEN. IN OTHER WORDS WE ARE FINDING THAT THERE ARE COMMUNITIES IN OUR CITY THAT HAVE GUNS ACCESSIBLE. THERE WAS A HIGH PROFILE CASE OF HIGH PROFILE PERSON IN FOUR KAYS LOST FOUR GUNS IN HIS SAME VEHICLES BECAUSE HE DIDN'T WANT TO LOCK UP HIS CAR DOOR ON RIO GRANDE. THERE IS RESPONSIBILITY FOR THIS. THEY ARE NOT GARDEN TOOLS, KITCHEN IMPLEMENTS. THESE ARE GUNS AND THAT IS WHY WE QUESTION THROUGH THE DEBATE ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND LEGISLATURE EVERY TIME WE ARE TIRED OF GUN VIOLENCE, TIRED OF WATCHING 6:00 NEWS AND SEEING ANOTHER CASE. IT IS SO BAD IN THE CITY, THAT WE NOW DON'T EVEN GET NEWS REPORTS OR MENTIONS OF THE MAJORITY OF SHOOTINGS AND HOMICIDES IN OUR CITY. ONLY THE MORE HIGH PROFILE ONES OF HIGH PROFILE PERSONS OR THOSE THAT PARTICULARLY OFFEND US AND OUR SENSE OF SAFETY. WE HAVE OBLIGATION TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT. ALTHOUGH I DO UNDERSTAND COUNCILOR JONES' POSITION, WE HAVE TALKED THROUGH THIS A LOT. I WANT TO POINT TO THE SAME ARTICLE AND SEND BY SAYING, WHEN ANNOUNCED THAT REPORT, IN 2018, COMMANDER JOE BURKE WE ALL KNOW AND RESPECT, HAVE USED A LOT ON THESE ISSUES AND UNDERSTANDING ISSUE PARTICULARLY IN THE NORTHEAST AREA COMMAND, WHERE A LOT OF THESE GUNS WERE STOLEN. QUOTED IN SAYING, VAST MAJORITY OF GUN OWNERS ARE RESPONSIBLE AND UNDERSTAND SAFETY IS THE TOP PRIORITY. I AGREE. BUT THE RESPONSIBILITY EXTENDED TO KEEPING GUNS OUT OF HANDS OF CRIMINALS OTHERS NOT TRAINED TO USE THEM, AS COMMANDER SAID, THAT MEANS LOCKING UP YOU YOUR GUNS IN YOUR HOME AND VEHICLE. AND HAD YEARS TO SAY WE ARE ENCOURAGING TO DO THIS AND NOT CHANGED OUR DYNAMIC. IT IS THE JOB OF THIS COUNCIL, IN MY OPINION, TO STEP UP OBJECT BEHALF OF PUBLIC SAFETY. THAT IS WHY WE BROUGHT THIS TOGETHER. I APPRECIATE MY FRIENDS ON THE COUNCIL FOR HELPING SUPPORT THIS AND I HOPE WE CAN DO SOMETHING THAT CAN HELP MAKE OUR CITY SAFER. SO, I APPRECIATE THE TIME FOR THE LONG SPEECH THAT I PROMISED I WOULDN'T GIVE. MY OTHERS ARE SHORTER. WITH THAT I THANK YOU FOR THE PRIVILEGE AND WOULD ASK THE CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL. >> Councilor Bassan: NO. >> Coun. Benton: YES. Z. >> Coun. Borrego: NO. >> Coun. Gibson: YES. >> Coun. Harris: NO. >> Coun. Jones: NO. >> Coun. Pena: NO. >> Coun. Sena: NO. >> Coun. Davis: YES. >> THAT FAILS ON 3-6 VOTE. >> Coun. Davis: THANK YOU. NEXT UP IS ITEM B ON FINAL ACTION WHICH IS O-83. I AM GOING TO MAKE A MOTION, I HAVE CO-SPONSORS HERE. I AM GOING TO MAKE A MOTION TO DEFER FOR 30 DAYS. LET ME EXPLAIN AND IF MY CO-SPONSORS WANT TO DO DIFFERENT, I'LL AMEND THIS. THIS IS RELATING ADDING A NEW SECTION TO CITY ORDINANCE PROHIBITING FIREARMS AND OTHER WEAPONS IN CITY FACILITIES. AS WE ARE AWARE SINCE THIS LEGISLATION WAS INTRODUCED CITY ENGAGED IN LITIGATION AROUND AN EXECUTIVE ORDER RELATING TO THE USE OF FIREARMS IN COMMUNITY CENTERS AND SUCH. THAT IS MOVING THROUGH THE COURTS AND IS ON TRACK TO BE RESOLVED FAIRLY SOON WITHOUT A FIRM DATE BUT FAIRLY SOON. SO, I WOULD BE PREPARED SINCE CITY HALL RIGHT NOW IS NOT OPEN TO THE PUBLIC DURING COVID-19 RESTRICTIONS, I WOULD BE PREPARED TO MOVE THIS ON AND LET THE COUNCIL RECONSIDERING ONCE WE SEE OUT COME OF THE LEGAL MATTER. FOR THAT REASON, I AM PREPARED TO DEFER THIS FOR 30 DAYS AND LET US CHECK IN ON THAT. >> Coun. Benton: SECOND. >> Coun. Davis: MOTION AND DEFERRAL FOR 30 DAYS. OTHER DISCUSSION? >> Councilor Bassan: NO. >> Coun. Benton: YES. >> Coun. Borrego: NO. >> Coun. Gibson: YES. >> Coun. Harris: NO. >> Coun. Jones: NO. >> Coun. Pena: NO. >> Coun. Sena: YES. >> Coun. Davis: YES. >> THAT MOTION 4-5. >> Coun. Davis: I MAKE A MOTION FOR A DO PASS. >> Coun. Benton: SECOND. >> Coun. Davis: MOTION AND SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? >> Councilor Bassan: THANK YOU. MY FIRST QUESTION IS HOW ARE WE GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE DO NOT ENTER INTO CITY FACILITIES WITH FIREARMS? >> Coun. Davis: I WILL ASSUME THAT COMES THROUGH SPONSOR. WE TALKED ABOUT THIS I THINK BEFORE YOU WERE ON THE COUNCIL. WHEN WE INTRODUCED THIS WE TALKED ABOUT A NUMBER OF OPTIONS, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS WORKING WITH CITY SECURITY FOR SCREEN JUST LIKE YOU DO IN OTHER PRIVATE BUILDINGS, FOR EXAMPLE. SO, IF WE HAVE THIS, ADMINISTRATION WOULD BE REQUIRED TO WORK ON THAT PROJECT AND BRING THOSE IMPROVEMENTS BACK TO THE CITY COUNCIL. >> Councilor Bassan: I AM CONCERNED WITH THAT, BECAUSE IT SAYS THERE IS NO FINANCIAL OR FISCAL IMPACT. I HAVE A HARD TIME BELIEVING WE ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE TO INSTALL METAL DIRECTORS TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. I REALLY DON'T THINK THAT MAKES SENSE TO SPEND THE MONEY TO DO THAT ESPECIALLY IF WE CAN'T MAKE SURE PEOPLE AREN'T COMING IN THAT ARE RESPONSIBLE LAW BIDING CITIZENS THAT ARE GOING TO PAY ATTENTION, HOW ARE WE GOING TO PREVENT PEOPLE FROM COMING IN THAT ARE GOING TO NOT PAY ATTENTION TO THE PLAQUE ON THE WALL THAT SAYS YOU CAN'T WALK IN HERE WITH A GUN AND SHOOT EVERYBODY. THEY ARE GOING TO IGNORE THAT AND COME IN AND HURT PEOPLE. WE ARE GOING TO HAVE LIMITED IF NO WAY TO DEFEND OURSELVES AS RESPONSIBLE CITIZENS WHO AREN'T COMING INTO THE BUILDING WITH FIREARMS. I WANT TO BE SURE SOME DAY WHEN WE ARE IN COUNCIL CHAMBERS, IF SOMEBODY COMES IN TO ATTACK US, I HOPE THE GOOD GUYS ARE THERE TO HELP PROTECT US AND I ALSO THINK IT IS GOING TO TAKE SOME FINANCIAL MONEY TO BE ABLE TO ENSURE THAT PEOPLE AREN'T ENTERING INTO CITY BUILDINGS. HOW MUCH IS THAT GOING TO COST THE CITY? TO ME IT IS NOT RESPONSIBLE AND I WANT TO BE SAFE AND I WANT TO BE PROTECTED, SO, THANK YOU. >> Coun. Davis: THE REASON THERE IS NO FISCAL IMPACT IS BECAUSE WE REALIZE $WE NEEDED TO PASS LEGISLATION FIRST IN ORDER TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE FINAL LEGISLATION WAS, REQUIRE THAT POSTING AND DEVELOP THAT THROUGH A SEPARATE FUNDING RESOLUTION. IN TERMS OF THE ORDINANCE ITSELF THERE WOULD BE NO IMPACT BUT IN TERMS OF RETROFITTING CITY HALL FOR THOSE IMPROVEMENTS THOSE WOULD BE AVAILABLE. I WOULD ARGUE WE HAVE IMPROVEMENT FUND AVAILABLE TO BE DETERMINED IF THE COUNCIL IS WISE ENOUGH TO PASS THIS TODAY. >> Councilor Bassan: THANK YOU. I JUST FEEL THAT IT IS JUST FORWARD THINKING AND LONGEVITY. WHEN WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF MONEY AND ARE HURTING AS A CITY, I JUST REALLY HATE TO SAY THAT WE HAVE FUNDING FOR THE FUTURE WHEN REALLY WE ARE ON TRACK TONIGHT TO DEBATE OR DISCUSS ARGUMENT FOR WHETHER OR NOT WE SHOULD PROCEED WITH HELP DRIVING NOW. IN ADDITION TO MY GUN THOUGHTS AND FIREARM THOUGHTS I REALLY THINK THAT IT WOULD BE FINANCIALLY IRRESPONSIBLE OF US TO PASS THIS LEGISLATION WITH SAYING EVENTUALLY WE ARE GOING TO KNOW HOW MUCH IT IS GOING TO COST US. >> Coun. Davis: I SAW COUNCILLOR GIBSON'S HAND A MINUTE AGO. >> Coun. Gibson: THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO SAY TO COUNCILOR BASSAN'S STATEMENTS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A FULL-BLOWN PLAN RIGHT NOW. YOU KNOW. IT IS REALLY NOT NECESSARY TO KNOW EXACTLY HOW WE ARE GOING TO PROCEED WITH THIS. BUT THERE ARE A NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO DO COME IN TO THE CHAMBERS IN THE BASEMENT, YOU KNOW, WITH PISTOLS ON THEIR HIPS OR HOLSTERS ON THEIR SHOULDERS. WE HAD ONE GENTLEMAN BROUGHT A HANDGUN IN IN A PLASTIC BAG. WE HAVE PICTURES OF IT, SO, YOU KNOW, WE DO HAVE GOOD GUYS -- I AM JUST TAKING THAT AS ONE EXAMPLE. WE COULD EXTEND IT TO THE ZOO OR MUSEUM OR OTHER COMMUNITY CENTERS. BUT WHERE WE MEET, WHEN WE ARE NOT IN A COVID-19 CRISIS, WE DO HAVE POLICE OFFICERS THERE AND SO -- (INAUDIBLE). >> MUCH. >> Coun. Davis: WE LOST YOU LAST COUPLE OF SECONDS. COUNCILOR JONES, YOUR NEXT. JONES GENERALS FOR CLARIFICATION WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE -- THE LEGISLATION SAYS FACILITY. WOULDN'T THAT BE EVERY CITY FACILITY, EVERY FACILITY WE HAVE, TO INCLUDE FACILITIES FOR SOLID WASTE, FOR PARKS AND REC, FOR ALL SENIOR CENTERS. WHO KNOWS WHAT HAPPENS THERE. WE ARE NOT TALKING JUST ONE BUILDING; IS THAT CORRECT? WHAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE COVERED BY THIS LEGISLATION? >> Coun. Davis: THIS WOULD INCLUDE ALL PUBLIC BUILDINGS AND FACILITIES OWNED BY THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE. >> Coun. Jones: THAT IS A BIG ASK FOR A LOT OF MONEY. THANK YOU SIR. >> Coun. Davis: PAGE FOR, CITY BUILDING OR STRUCTURE, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO CITY HALL, LIBRARIES, COMMUNITY CENTERS, PARKING AND RECOLLECT ATION, ANY MEETING WHERE CITY COUNCILOR IS HOLDING A MEETING, AS LONG AS PROPERLY POSTED FIREARMS WOULD NOT BE PERMITTED. JUST TO POINT FOLKS TO THAT LEGISLATION. >> Coun. Jones: S DID THAT MEAN WHEN WE HAVE A PRESS CONFERENCE, WE HAVE TO FRISK PEOPLE WHEN THEY COME IN IF WE ARE USING IT FOR A CITY FUNCTION? >> Coun. Davis: AS LEGISLATION STATES, ONLY IF IT IS PROPERLY POSTED THAT FIREARMS ARE PROHIBITED WOULD SOMEBODY BE ABLE TO ENFORCE THIS LEGISLATION. >> Coun. Benton: THANK YOU. JUST TO CLARIFY FURTHER. IT DOES LIMIT THEM -- YOU KNOW -- THE LIST THAT IS PROVIDED IS INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO BUT THE KEY LANGUAGE IS A SPACE WHICH IS OWNED, LESIONED OR OTHERWISE OCCUPIED BY THE CITY FOR PURPOSES OF HOSTING PUBLIC OR CONDUCTING BUSINESS WITH THE PUBLIC. THERE ARE CITY FACILITIES WHERE THAT DOES NOT OCCUR AND WOULD NOT APPLY. >> COUNCILLOR BENTON, IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER CLOSE? >> Coun. Benton: I REALIZE HIGHLY CONTROVERSIAL BUT I DO FEEL THAT -- AND MAYBE THERE THIS SHOULD BE TAILORED DIFFERENTLY. I DO FEEL THAT SOMETHING LIKE CITY HALL, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS I KNOW, YOU COULD HAVE A FULLY AUTOMATIC OR SEMI AUTOMATIC HIGH CAPACITY ASSAULT TYPE WEAPON IN THE CITY HALL CHAMBERS. THERE IS NOTHING TO PREVENT FROM YOU DOING THAT. THERE ARE A LOT OF SELF APPOINTED GOOD GUYS, I SUPPOSE, YOU COULD CALL THEM, ON THE ALBUQUERQUE MUSEUM PROPERTY WHEN A SHOOTING ENDED UP OCCURRING AND IN THAT SPECIFIC INSTANCE, THE SHOOTERS HAS BEEN IN CITY HALL WITH A WEAPON AND IN THE CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS WITH A WEAPON. SO, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. >> Coun. Davis: I THOUGHT ABOUT IT A LOT. COUNCILLOR GIBSON TO CLOSE. >> Coun. Gibson: URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >> Coun. Davis: THANKS FOR BRINGING THAT UP. YOU BROUGHT UP EXACTLY WHAT I HAD BEEN THINKING ABOUT TODAY AND THINKING ABOUT THIS. WE HAVE OBLIGATION AS CITY COUNCILORS AND I THINK IT IMPORTANT WE OUGHT TO TAKE A LOOK AT THIS FOR IMPORTANT REASON. IN ADDITION TO PUBLIC SAFETY REASON, WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO -- THIS WILL LIKELY LEAD TO A LAWSUIT IF WE PASS IT BUT OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE CASE LAW AND LOOK AT WHAT IS PERCEIVED AS BLANKET PROHIBITION AND LOOK AT OPTIONS TO SAY WHAT IS REASONABLE. HOW DO WE BALANCE OUR NEED FOR PUBLIC SAFETY AND TO MAKE THE PUBLIC FACILITIES ACCESS TOIL THE PUBLIC WHILE ALSO BALANCING A PERSON'S RIGHT TO OWN AND POSSESS A FIREARM? THE LEGISLATION IS FULL OF WHEREAS STATEMENTS THAT LIST NUMBER OF TIMES PERSONS HAVE COME INTO CITY HALLS AND CITY FACILITIES AROUND THE COUNTRY AND SHOT MAYOR'S AND CITY COUNCILORS AND PEOPLE PARTICIPATING IN THE PROCESS. THERE IS ANOTHER PIECE HERE WE HAVE TO REMEMBER AND WE SHOULD ALL AS COUNCILORS REMEMBER, SHOOTING IN VIRGINIA BEACH, YEAR OR SO AGO, WE HAVE EMPLOYEES IN THE CITY WHO WORK HERE. WERE WE A PRIVATE EMPLOYER, WE WOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO DETERMINE WHO CAN BRING WHAT INTO OUR OFFICE SPACE AND WE DO THAT NOT TO OFFEND PEOPLE THAT COME IN BUT PROTECT THE PEOPLE THAT DO OUR WORK EVERYDAY. REMEMBER AS GOVERNMENT WE REQUIRE PEOPLE TO COME HERE, TO PAY THEIR TAXES TO APPLY FOR PERMITS. THERE IS ONLY ONE PLACE IN THE WORLD CAN YOU COME AND SPEAK TO A CITY COUNCILOR IN THE CITY IN A PUBLIC FORUM. SO, THERE ARE THINGS THAT ARE UNIQUE ABOUT THIS BUILDING AND OUR JOBS THAT REQUIRE PEOPLE TO COME HERE UNDER HEIGHTENED SITUATIONS, UNDER HEIGHTENED EMOTIONS AND SIMPLY THE MIX OF FIREARMS IN THAT HAS PROVEN TO BE PROBLEMATIC. COUNCILLOR BENTON POINTS OUT IN CLOSE EXACTLY THE CIRCUMSTANCE THAT WE ARE SO CONCERNED ABOUT. OTHERWISE PEACEFUL EXPRESSION OF SOMEONE'S CIVIC RESPONSIBILITY TO PROTEST, TO SPEAK OUT, WERE THAT TO HAVE HAPPENED IN A CITY COUNCIL MEETING, MANY OF THESE COUNCILORS ON THIS MEETING WERE HERE WHEN MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC OVER TOOK THE CITY COUNCIL SOEN RAGE $OVER ISSUES WE ARE TALKING ABOUT TODAY. IMAGINE HAD THAT HAPPENED IN OUR CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS, VERY LIKELY IT WOULD HAVE BEEN FOR MORE THAN A YEAR, THIS COUNCIL AT ALMOST EVERY MEETING WATCHED THE YOUNG MAN WHO ULTIMATELY SHOT A PERSON TO WHOM HE WAS OPPOSED AT THAT PROTEST. HE SAT SIX FEET AWAY FROM THE STAFF WITH A LOADED FIRE ARM AND RAISED HIS VOICE AND PARTICIPATED IN HEATED CONVERSATIONS WITH US AND WITH THE ADMINISTRATION FOR MORE THAN A YEAR. PEOPLE THAT WORK FOR US, DON'T TAKE ON THE CHALLENGES AND RESPONSIBILITY THAT WE DO, WE ARE THE ONLY ONES THAT HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY. I THINK WE OWE IT TO THEM TO AT LEAST TRY TO KEEP THEM SAFER. I WOULD ASK THE CLERK TO CALL THE ROLE. >> Councilor Bassan: NO. >> Coun. Benton: YES. >> Coun. Borrego: NO. >> Coun. Gibson: YES. >> Coun. Harris: NO. >> Coun. Jones: NO. >> Coun. Pena: NO. >> Coun. Sena: NO. >> Coun. Davis: YES. >> THAT FAILS ON 3-6 VOTE. >> THANK YOU COUNCILORS. LET ME TRY ONE MORE THAT I THINK MIGHT GET PASSED. IT WILL BE O-84. AMENDMENTS REVISED ORDINANCES RELATING TO PUBLIC ORDER AND SAFETY. TO PRESCRIBE CRIMINAL THREATS OF MASS VIOLENCE. SO, SEVERAL YEARS AGO, I DON'T HAVE IT IN FRONT OF ME, BUT THIS COUNCIL AND ONE OF MY VERY FIRST PIECES OF LEGISLATION WAS WISE ENOUGH TO PASS A PIECE OF LEGISLATION THAT CAME TO US FROM APD THAT SAID THAT IT WAS AGAINST THE LAW TO USE SOCIAL MEDIA TO THREATEN MASS VIOLENCE, BASICALLY A SCHOOL SHOOTING. IT CAME TO US AS SOME OF THE COUNCILORS MAY REMEMBER BECAUSE THE SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICER AT HIGHLAND HAD ENCOUNTERED A SITUATION WHERE SOMEONE HAD USED SOCIAL MEDIA TO SAY -- TO TELL STUDENTS IN THE SCHOOL DON'T COME TO SCHOOL TODAY, I AM GOING TO SHOOT THE BUILDING. AS IT TURNS OUT THAT KIND OF IS NOT ILLEGAL UNDER STATE LAW BECAUSE IT IS NOT A BOMB THREAT AND THE LAWS RELATING TO THREATS IN NEW MEXICO WERE WRITTEN IN THE AGE OF THE TELEPHONE AND PERSON TO PERSON AND NOT AGE OF SOCIAL MEDIA. SO, YOU LAW WASN'T WELL DEFINED. WE WASSED THAT LAW AND APD USED IT IN THE FIRST YEAR TO INVESTIGATE AND GAIN RECORDS FROM SOCIAL MEDIA COMPANIES, FOR EXAMPLE, TO IDENTIFY PERSON WHO WERE POSTING THOSE THREATS AND TO INTERVENE IN FOUR DIFFERENT INSTANCES IN ALBUQUERQUE PUBLIC SCHOOLS WHERE STUDENTS ULTIMATELY STUDENTS THREATENED WILL ACTS OF MASS VIOLENCE. AND CAME BACK AND SAID, HEY, WE SHOULDN'T JUST DO THIS FOR SCHOOLS BUT ALL OVER THE CITY WHETHER IT IS WAL-MART LIKE EL PASO. SO UNTIL THE STATE LEGISLATURE CATCHES UP THIS IS A TOOL ALBUQUERQUE POLICE CAN USE TO SUBPOENA FACEBOOK OR INSTAGRAM OR WHATEVER, TO FIGURE OUT WHERE THE POSTING IS COMING FROM. WE HAVE SEEN IT WORK SUCCESSFULLY. IF ONLY DONE WITH THE FINDING OF A JUDGE THAT THERE IS SOME TYPE OF THREAT THAT HAS BEEN ARTICULATED. WE HAVE SEEN IT WORK WELL, KEEPS US SAFE UNTIL LEGISLATURE CATCHES UP. THAT WILL BE MY OPENING. O-84, I MOVE DO PASS. >> Councilor Bassan: THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO SAY THIS LEGISLATION I DO THINK IS GOING AFTER THE ACTUAL INDIVIDUAL MAKES A THREAT OR CAUSING THE CRIME AND COULD POTENTIALLY HELP REDUCE SOME OF THESE INSTANCES. SO, I AM IN SUPPORT OF THIS BILL. THANK YOU. >> Coun. Davis: ANY OTHER DISCUSSION OR COMMENT FROM ADMINISTRATION. GOING ONCE, TWICE. >> Coun. Borrego: I WANT TO SAY THAT WITH NEW TECHNOLOGY, THINK WE DO NEED TO LOOK AT A LOT OF OUR ORDINANCES AND KIND OF LOOK AT HOW TECHNOLOGY HAS IMPACTED ALL OF OUR CITY POLICIES INCLUDING CRIMINAL ACTIVITY, BECAUSE, IT HAS BEEN A LONG TIME AND I RESPECT YOU COUNCILOR DAVIS FOR LOOKING AT THIS. >> WE HAVE NEVER REVIEWED OUR CITY POLICIES REGARDING THE INTERNET. I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IT IS KIND OF THE BEGINNING OF OPENING A NEW CHAPTER THAT WE REALLY DO NEED TO LOOK AT. SO, THANK YOU FOR THAT. >> Coun. Davis: APPRECIATE THAT. THANKS FOR YOUR WORK AS WELL. OTHER DISCUSSIONS, SEEING NONE. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. >> Councilor Bassan: YES. >> Coun. Benton: YES. >> Coun. Borrego: YES. >> Coun. Gibson: YES. >> Coun. Harris: -- >> Coun. Jones: YES. >> Coun. Pena: YES. >> Coun. Sena: YES. >> Coun. Davis: YES. PASSES ON 8-0 VOTE. >> Coun. Davis: CPC'S. >> Coun. Pena: THIS IS O-27. >> ESTABLISHING COMMUNITY POLICING COUNCILS, MEMBERSHIP REQUIREMENTS AND DUTIES. MOVE DO PASS. >> Coun. Borrego: SECOND. >> Coun. Pena: I ENCOURAGE YOUR SUPPORT. THERE IS AMENDMENTS IN OUR I PADS BUT, YOU KNOW, I JUST REALLY WANT TO THANK EVERYONE WHO PARTICIPATED IN THIS. AND WORKED REALLY HARD TO MAKE THIS A REALITY, YOU KNOW. WE HAVE REALLY BASICALLY THIS BILL, WAIT DOES, IT ATESTS SOME OF THE CASA REQUIREMENTS AND FOR DIVERSITY AND CONSISTENCY WITHIN THE CPC'S. SO, I JUST, I GUESS, WITHOUT SPEAKING TOO LONG ON IT, LET'S HEAR AMENDMENTS AND THEN I'LL CLOSE. >> Coun. Davis: WE ARE NOT GOING TO HOLD THAT CLOCK ON ANYBODY. ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS OR DO WE WANT TO LET COUNCILLOR PENA MOVE AMENDMENTS? ANYTHING ELSE? CAN WE GO TO THEM. >> Coun. Pena: LET'S GO TO AMENDMENTS. >> Councilor Bassan: THANK YOU. SO I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FLOOR AMENDMENT NO. 1 TO O-20, 27. PAGE 2, LINE 25, ADD THE FOLLOWING AFTER THE WORDS OR FOR HAVING CRIMINAL HISTORY. HOWEVER, CURRENT ACTIVE FELON WARRANTS OR CRIMINAL CHARGES WILL DISQUALIFY A PERSON FROM MEMBERSHIP. THIS AMENDMENT SUGGESTS THAT ALL CRIMINAL HISTORY SHOULD NOT DISQUALIFY SOMEONE FROM SERVING ON A CPC, PERSONS WITH PENDING CRIMINAL CHARGES CANNOT BE MEMBERS. I CAN KEEP GOING BUT I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO WAIT FOR A SECOND OR NOT. >> Coun. Davis: DO WE HAVE A SECOND? >> Coun. Jones: SECOND. >> Councilor Bassan: SO, I SPOKE WITH CITY LEGAL ABOUT THIS. AS WELL. IT IS REALLY -- IT IS MAKING IT MORE CONSISTENT WITH THE WAY THINGS ARE WRITTEN NOW WITH PROPER PROTOCOL HOW WE DO THINGS UNDER CASA. WHEN CASA DOES GO AWAY AND WE DON'T HAVE TO DO THAT ANYMORE, WE'LL HAVE THAT MIDDLE GROUNDS OF SAYING THAT WE RECOGNIZE SOME PEOPLE MAKE A MISTAKE AND SOME PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, THAT SHOULDN'T BE HELD AGAINST THEM FOR EVER. BUT THERE IS OTHER PEOPLE THAT PERHAPS HAVE COMMITTED MORE SERIOUS CRIMES AND A CPC MIGHT NOT BE THE BEST PLACE SUITED FOR THEM. IN KEEPING THINGS CONSISTENT WITH THE WAY THE AGREEMENT IS NOW, I WANTED TO OFFER THIS AMENDMENT SO WE CAN MAKE SURE TO HAVE THAT ACCOUNTABILITY THERE FOR THE FUTURE. >> Coun. Davis: WE HAVE MR. HARNESS HERE. I SAW COUNCILOR BORREGO RAISED HER HAND FIRST. >> Coun. Borrego: THANK YOU. MY QUESTION REGARDING THIS AMENDMENT IS HOW WOULD THIS BE ENFORCED? WHO WOULD DECIDE? WOULD IT BE THE COURT? WOULD IT BE APD? WOULD IT BE THE CPC? I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW -- AND THEN AT WHAT DEGREE OF CRIME WOULD WE SAY, WELL, THAT PERSON IS NOT, YOU KNOW, SUITABLE OR. SO, I GUESS, I MEAN IF IT IS A FELON OR IF ITEMS, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY A RAPIST OR MURDERER -- AT WHAT DEGREE -- >> Councilor Bassan: YOUR ON TRACK WITH WHAT I WAS SAYING ORIGINALLY, WITH ALMOST REVERSE OF THAT. WE NEED SOMETHING TO SAY THAT AGAIN, 10 YEARS AGO, MAYBE THIS PERSON, LET'S SAY, GOT A DUI RIGHT? OR EMBEZZLED. THAT DOESN'T MEAN THEY ARE A BAD PERSON ANYMORE. THEY HAVE BEEN A COMPLETELY UP STANDING CITIZEN THIS SHOULDN'T BE AGAINST THEM. I WOULD BE HAPPY TO REFER TO MR. AGUILAR. I HAVE A DIFFERENT AMENDMENT AND THIS WAS STREAMLINING. >> Coun. Davis: MS. VANMETER IS AVAILABLE BY PHONE. >> AGUILAR: I'LL TAKE THE FIRST STAB AND SHE CAN BACK ME UP. GENERALLY, COUNCILOR ASKED ABOUT ENFORCEMENT. I VIEW THIS WITHIN THE CPOA'S PURVIEW IN APPLICATION PROCESS. WHEN FOLKS WANT TO PARTICIPATE ON THE COMMUNITY POLICING COUNCIL WILL SPEAK AND SUBMIT AN APPLICATION. INTENT BEHIND LEGISLATION. WHAT I WILL DO IS TURN IT OVER TO MS. VANMETER WHO WORKED ON ALL THIS LEGISLATION AND IN PARTICULAR SHE HAS DONE AN OUTSTANDING JOB AND CAN ANSWER REALLY THE SPECIFIC FOCUS QUESTIONS. >> Coun. Davis: COULD YOU TELL US ABOUT THAT PROCESS AND HOW IT WORKS NOW. >> VANMETER: I WANT TO START WITH IT WASN'T ALWAYS THE POLICY INDIVIDUALS WOULD NOT BE PROHIBITED FROM SERVING ON CPC BASED ON CRIMINAL HISTORY. WE HAD MANY DISCUSSIONS WITH MONITORING TEAM REGARDING THE CASA CASE AS WELL AS DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE, CPC MEMBERS AND MR. HARNESS. OVER THE COURSE OF SEVERAL MONTHS WE CAME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT IT IS IMPORTANT TO INCREASE DIVERSITY ESPECIALLY AMONG THOSE WHO SERVE ON THE CPC'S. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT OFTEN PREVENTS INDIVIDUALS FROM SERVING IS PRIOR CRIMINAL HISTORY AND WE HAVE SPECIFIC INSTANCES WHERE A PRIOR CRIMINAL HISTORY EXCLUDED INDIVIDUALS FROM SERVING WHO WERE WELL QUALIFIED, WELL RESPECT IN THE THEIR COMMUNITIES, AND EVERYONE RECOGNIZED THAT. BASED ON ALL OF THAT AND GENERAL AGREEMENT THAT SOMETIMES INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE BEEN POLICED HAVE INPUT REGARDING POLICING AND CPC IS I ADVISORY IN NATURE IT WAS AGREED TO NOT PROHIBIT INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE A CRIMINAL HISTORY FROM SERVING ON CPC'S. IN THE AGREEMENT CURRENTLY REFLECTED ON THE WEB WAGE AND DOES INCLUDE THE LANGUAGE PROPOSED WITH REGARD TO IT DOES PROHIBIT INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE ACTIVE FELONY WARRANTS FROM PARTICIPATING ON CPC'S. SO THAT IS THE PROCESS RIGHT NOW. >> Councilor Bassan: MORE FOR COUNCILOR BORREGO, YES, I AM STILL WANTING THIS AMENDMENT. THANK YOU. >> Coun. Borrego: YEAH. I MEAN, THAT DOES ANSWER PART OF MY QUESTION. THE SCREENING WOULD BE DONE THROUGH CIVILIAN OVERSIGHT GROUP BUT I THINK THE QUESTION THAT I HAVE IS WITH REGARD TO CRIMINAL ACTIVITY. IF SOMEBODY IS CHARGED WITH SOME SORT OF CRIMINAL ACTIVITY, HOW DO WE DETERMINE THAT THEY CAN SERVE, I MEAN, MAYBE SOMEBODY HAS BEEN JUST OFF PROBATION FOR SIX MONTHS. OR SOMEBODY HAS BEEN OFF PROBATION FOR SIX YEARS. AND SERVED THEIR TIME. WITH REGARD TO DEGREE OF CRIMINAL ACTIVITY THAT THEY COMMITTED, HOW DO WE -- I MEAN IS IT GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, JUST SUBJECTIVE? HOW, YOU KNOW, I AM STILL NOT CLEAR ABOUT THAT. >> VANMETER: THEY CANNOT BE ACTIVE FELONY WARRANT AND I DON'T HAVE THE LANGUAGE DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF ME BUT IT IS EXACT LANGUAGE THAT COUNCILOR BASSAN HAS. IT DOES NOT LOOK AT WITH REGARD TO WHETHER INDIVIDUAL IS CURRENTLY ON PROBATION. IT DOES NOT LOOK AT WHETHER THEY ARE OFF PROBATION. IF THEY HAVE ACTIVE FELONY WARRANT OR CHARGES FILED AGAINST THEM. THAT IS WHAT IS DISQUALIFYING. IN ADDITION IT IS IMPORTANT TO KEEP IN MIND THAT WHILE THE POLICE ACADEMY IS NO LONGER REQUIRED TO PARTICIPATE ON CPC'S, IT I STRONGLY ENCOURAGED AND TO EITHER PARTICIPATE IN CIVILIAN POLICE ACADEMY OR PARTICIPATE IN A RIDE ALONG, BACKGROUND CHECK MUST BE CONDUCTED AND THOSE THINGS ARE SCREENED FOR AS WELL. >> Coun. Pena: I THINK COUNCILOR SEN A'S HAND WAS UP BEFORE ME. >> Coun. Sena: SURE. I JUST WANT TO SAY I REALLY DO APPRECIATE COUNCILOR PENA FOR BRINGING THE OVERALL LEGISLATION AND REALLY WORKING FOR QUITE SOME TIME WITH THE ATTORNEYS WITH CPOA AND MR. ED HARNESS. BECAUSE I DO APPRECIATE THE CONVERSATION. I AM CURIOUS AS WE ARE TALKING RIGHT NOW, WE ARE SAYING THAT PEOPLE WITH OPEN CHARGES WOULD GO TO A COMMUNITY POLICING COUNCIL. I FIND IT FASCINATING IF YOU HAVE PENDING CHARGES, WOULD YOU GO INTO A GROUP OF OFFICE EVERS. I JUST DON'T SEE THAT HAPPENING. >> I THINK THAT I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR FROM MR. HARNESS OF WHAT HE THINKS ON THIS AMENDMENT. WHAT WE ARE REALLY TRYING TO GET AT WITH OVERALL LEGISLATION NOT SPECIFICALLY THINKING OF THE AMENDMENT BUT REALLY DIVERSIFYING OUR CPC'S. AND REALLY TAKING AN APPROACH TO INCLUDE EVERYONE ON HOW WE ADDRESS SAFETY. IF I CAN GET MR. HARNESS TO SEE WHAT HIS THOUGHTS ARE. I KNOW THAT IN TERMS OF BACK GROUND CHECKS WHEN IT RELATES TO THIS DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE WHEN IT COMES TO THIS, DO I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS IF IT IS ALLOWABLE. IF YOU CAN ANSWER A FEW QUESTIONS. >> HARNESS: CERTAINLY. I AGREE I WOULD BE HARD PRESSED TO IMAGINE SOMEONE WITH ACTIVE FELONY WARRANT OR OPEN CRIMINAL CHARGES WOULD BE WANTING TO BE A VOTING MEMBER FOR A COMMUNITY POLICING COUNCIL. IT DOESN'T MEAN THEY COULDN'T BE THERE AS PART OF THE GENERAL PUBLIC. BUT THIS WOULD -- WE ARE TRYING TO BE AS INCLUSIVE AS POSSIBLE FOR A WIDE RANGE OF DIVERSE OPINIONS AND EXPERIENCES WHILE MAINTAINING SOME INTEGRITY FOR THE PROCESS. AND MAINTAINING SOME ABILITY FOR APD TO HAVE ACCESS -- ALLOW THE CPC MEMBERS TO HAVE ACCESS TO CITIZENS POLICE ACADEMY AND THE RIDE ALONGS, IF THOSE PARTICIPANTS CHOOSE TO DO SO. >> I THINK THIS IS IN LINE FOR STANDARD WITH THE POLICE ACADEMY AND RIDE ALONG BUT IT ALSO GIVES ROOM FOR PERSONS WHO HAVE HAD EXPERIENCE WITH THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM THAT HAVE GONE THROUGH AND SHOWN A PATTERN OF LAWFUL BEHAVIOR TO PARTICIPATE SO THAT WE CAN WELCOME THEIR OPINIONS TO THE DEBATE AS WELL. >> Coun. Pena: I WANT TO THANK COUNCILOR BASSAN. I KNOW SHE DISSECTS THESE PIECES OF LEGISLATION. I APPRECIATE HER THOUGHTS. I CAN'T SUPPORT THE AMENDMENT. I SEE WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO BUT REALLY MORE PARTICULARLY, YOU KNOW, JUST REALLY TALKING ABOUT THE MEMBERS -- CURRENT MEMBERS, ONE OF MY HUGE CONCERNS WAS THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS IN GENERAL AREN'T DIVERSE ENOUGH AND OBVIOUSLY IT WAS A CONCERN FOR THESE MEMBERS AS WELL. BUT THEY WORKED HARD ON PREPARING THIS ENTIRE LEGISLATION WITH THE ATTORNEYS AND DOJ AND CPOA AND THEY RECOGNIZE THIS WAS AN ISSUE, YOU KNOW, SO I REALLY APPRECIATE THEM AND THEIR WILLINGNESS TO BE INCLUSIVE AND CREATE DIVERSITY AMONG A BUTCH OTHER THINGS. WE TALKED ABOUT MEMBERSHIP. I AM NOT CLOSING BUT I WANT TO SAY I CAN'T SUPPORT THE AMENDMENT. SO THANK YOU. >> Coun. Davis: LET ME RECOGNIZE MYSELF. COUNCILOR CAN I ASK FOR A TECHNICAL CLARIFICATION FROM YOU. THIS MAYBE MS. VANMETER FOR A LEGAL EYE, WHEN I READ THIS, WHAT I READ IS THAT A PERSON WITH ACTIVE FELONY WARRANT OR CRIMINAL CHARGES WOULD DISQUALIFY THEM FROM MEMBERSHIP. DO YOU MEAN THAT TO SAY FELONY CHARGES OR ANY CRIMINAL CHARGES? I ASK THAT QUESTION BECAUSE THERE ARE A NUMBER OF SORT OF PETTY MISDEMEANORS THAT JUST MAY ARISE JUST IN THE COURSE OF BEING AROUND EVERYTHING FROM, I DON'T KNOW, CERTAINLY, I THINK, SOME OF THE PETTY MISDEMEANORS LIKE PARK VIOLATIONS. LIKE LITTERING. >> THAT COULD PEND IN METRO COURT FOR MONTHS. I DON'T THINK THAT IS THE INTENT BUT PERHAPS IT IS. COULD YOU CLARIFY WHETHER THAT SHOULD BE FELONY OR ALL CHARGES. >> Councilor Bassan: FIRST I THINK I HAVE THE ANSWER TO THAT BUT I ALSO HAVE ANOTHER EDIT THAT I WANT TO PROPOSE. I REALLY WANT TO GET MS. VANMETER'S RESPONSE TO THAT AS LEGAL. I DON'T WANT TO ANSWER LEGAL QUESTIONS PER SE, OR EVEN HAVE MR. MELENDRES WEIGH IN AND GET THE TRUE ANSWER, RATHER THAN MY UNOFFICIAL RESPONSE. >> Coun. Davis: MS. VANMETER GO WITH YOU. >> VANMETER: THE LAKE CAME IN PARTICULAR STRAIGHT FROM AN AGREEMENT WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE AND MONITORING TEAM THAT WAS APPROVED AND POSTED ON APD'S WEBSITE REGARDING COMMUNITY POLICING COUNCILS. SO THE LANGUAGE IS THAT A CRIPPLE FALL HISTORY WILL NOT EXCLUDE A PERSON IN SERVING ON A CPC, HOWEVER CURRENT ACTED FELON WARRANTS OR CRIMINAL CHARGES WILL DISQUALIFY A PERSON FROM MEMBERSHIP. I THINK THERE IS ROOM UNDER THIS AGREEMENT TO AMEND THAT LANGUAGE IN A WAY THAT DOES NOT EXCLUDE MORE PEOPLE. THERE WOULD NOT BE ROOM UNDER THE CURRENT AGREEMENT IN A WAY THAT WOULD POTENTIALLY NOT JEOPARDIZE CASA COMPLIANCE SOME MAKE IT MORE RESTRICTIVE. >> Coun. Davis: I THINK THAT IS WHAT WE WERE ASKING. WE COULD MAKE IT MORE RESTRICTIVE BUT NOT LESS SO. I AM INCLINED TO ASK SPONSOR IF SHE WOULD BE WILLING TO MAKE THAT A CLERICAL CHANGE TO CLARIFY FELONY CHARGES. >> MR. HARNESS CAN YOU TELL ME QUICKLY, I REALIZE THIS LEGISLATION PASSES THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE UNDER YOUR SHOP. WOULD YOUR ACKNOWLEDGECY HAVE ANY AGENCY HAVE ANY INPUT AS TO HOW WE INTERPRET THAT LANGUAGE. >> HARNESS: I THINK WE WOULD HAVE TO GO BY THE EXPRESSED WORDS. WOULD IT APPEAR THERE IS INFERENCE FOR ONLY FELONIES BUT ALL SEEMS TO BE INCLUSIVE. ANY OPEN UNRESOLVED CRIMINAL ISSUES, I THINK, WOULD BE INTERPRETED AS EXCLUDING MEMBERSHIP. >> Coun. Davis: BACK TO THE SPONSOR AND ASK IF YOU COULD CLARIFY YOUR INTENT. WOULD YOU BE OKAY WITH US NARROWING TO FELONY CHARGES OR DO YOU INTEND IT TO BE MORE BROAD. >> Councilor Bassan: WHAT I WAS CLARIFYING, INTENT AGAIN, MS. VANMETER TOO. IF I AM INCORRECT CLARIFY FOR ME. INTENT IS TO SAY CURRENT ACTIVE FELON OR FELONY WARRANTS OR ACTIVE CRIMINAL CHARGES WILL DISQUALIFY A PERSON. SO, I MEAN AM I RIGHT THAT IT SHOULD BE ACTIVE FOR BOTH AND WILLING TO ADD THAT IN BUT I DON'T WANT TO ADD ANYTHING WITHOUT CITY LEGAL SAYING THAT WE ARE NOT GOING TO CREATE A BIGGER PROBLEM HERE. I ALSO WILL DEFER TO MS. VANMETER IF YOU RECOMMEND OR MR. MELENDRES. HE HELPED ME DRAFT THIS TOO. I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE TRULY DOING THIS SO THAT WE DO HAVE DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION, YET WE ALSO CAN KIND OF LIMIT SOME EXTREMITIES AND KEEP THINGS CONSISTENT TO THE WAY THEY ARE. >> Coun. Davis: ON THE QUESTION OF ADDING WORD ACTIVE. IF SPONSOR IS WILLING I HOPEFULLY GET CLARIFICATION ABOUT WHETHER SHE MEANT IT TO BE ALL CRIMINAL OR FELONY CHARGES. OR IF SHE WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE ATTORNEYS FOR THAT CLARIFICATION AS WELL. >> Councilor Bassan: I DO WANT ATTORNEY CLARIFICATION AND RECOMMENDATIONS. >> VANMETER: THANK YOU. I THINK FOR CLARIFICATION PURPOSES THE WORDS ACTIVE FELONY WARRANT OR ACTIVE CRIMINAL CHARGES IS CONSISTENT WITH INTENT OF EVERYONE. THE LANGUAGE THAT IS ON THE WEB PAGE AND THAT HAS BEEN PROPOSED BY COUNCILOR IS APPROVED BY THE MONITOR AND DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE. LIKE I SAID, I DO BELIEVE THAT CHANGES COULD BE MADE TO THE LANGUAGE THAT DO NOT RESTRICT MEMBERSHIP WITHOUT VIOLATING INTENTION OF THE CITY, DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE AND THE MONITORING TEAM. >> Coun. Davis: YOU WERE INVOKED. I WANT TO GIVE YOU A CHANCE IF YOU HAVE ANY THOUGHTS. >> MELENDRES: TO EXTENT IT IS HELPFUL I THINK MORE CLARIFICATION IS HELPFUL. AS WRITTEN, THOUGH, THE NOTION OF A FELONY WARRANT IS BY ITS NATURE PENDING UNTIL THAT WARRANT IS SATISFIED. IF YOU WANT TO SAY ACTIVE AND PENDING THAT DOESN'T HURT BUT BY THE VERY NATURE IT IS IMPLICIT IT IS PENDING. PWITH RESPECTS TO CRIMINAL PROSECUTION COMPONENT AS WRITTEN IT IS NOT SO LIMITED AND THAT MAY MAKE POLICY SENSE UP TO DISCRETION OF THIS BODY. IS SOMEBODY PENDING BEING BROUGHT IN ON A FELONY WARRANT THAT IS A MORE SERIOUS THING TO WAIT TO PLAY OUT, WHEREAS IF SOMEBODY HAD ALREADY BEEN CHARGED AND CURRENTLY SUBJECT TO CRIMINAL PROSECUTION FOR A VIOLENT MISDEMEANOR THAT WOULD WAS INCLUDED WITHIN THE SECOND PART WHICH WOULD EXCLUDE SOMEONE FACING CHARGES FOR A MISDEMEANOR THAT MAY BE VIOLENT OR NOT BUT OF CONCERN WITH RESPECT TO THEIR ABILITY TO SERVE. AS WRITTEN I THINK THE COMPONENT ABOUT FELONY WARRANT DOES NECESSARILY MEAN IT IS PRESENT AND PENDING. WITH RESPECK RESPECT TO PROSEC, YOU SHOULD ADD THAT LANGUAGE IF THAT IS YOUR INTENT. >> Coun. Borrego: I WAS GOING TO SAY THAT IT SEEMS LIKE WHAT CHRIS WAS JUST TALKING ABOUT REGARDING ACTIVE PENDING CRIMINAL FELONY CHARGES, SEEMS APPROPRIATE BUT I DO HAVE A QUESTION NOW AND I AM SORRY, BUT, ABOUT VIOLATIONS OF ANY CITY ORDINANCE. IF THERE IS SOMETHING THAT IS PENDING REGARDING THAT? SO, YOU KNOW, THAT IS AN AREA WE HAVEN'T DISCUSSED AND I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT IS IN THE DOJ AGREEMENT BUT, YOU KNOW, IF SOMEBODY HAS VIOLATE ADD CITY ORDINANCE, THEY BUILT ON SOMEBODY'S PROPERTY -- I DON'T KNOW -- I HAVE A SITUATION LIKE THAT IN MY PARTICULAR AREA, WHERE SOMEBODY POURED A SLAP OF CEMENT ON A CITY PROPERTY. SO, YOU KNOW, WHAT DO WE DO? I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW IF IT WILL ENDS UP IN COURT OR NOT BUT ARE THOSE PEOPLE ABLE TO SERVE. THAT IS ANOTHER QUESTION THAT I HAVE. I FEEL LIKE THERE IS MORE DEFINITION THAT NEEDS TO OCCUR ON THIS. >> Coun. Davis: THAT IS WHAT I WAS SAYING AND I AGREE WITH YOU. >> Coun. Pena: THE QUESTION IS FOR WHOEVER WANTS TO TACKLE IT. I AM STILL LEANING TOWARDS NOT SUPPORTING AMENDMENT JUST BECAUSE I KNOW WITH BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS IN GENERAL THAT IS WHERE IT LAYS OUT PEOPLES' ABILITY TO SERVE. BUT MY QUESTION IS, I GUESS, FOR BETTER CLARIFICATION, IS WHAT DOES PENDING OR ACTIVE MEAN. COULD THAT BE INTERPRETED AS SOMEONE WHO HAS BEEN ON PROBATION UNTIL IT IS FINALIZED? I DON'T KNOW. YOU KNOW. THERE IS VARYING DEGREES OF FELONIES. SO, I WISH A FELONY WAS FOR CERTAIN THINGS I KNOW WE ARE ALL THINKING ABOUT BUT WHEN YOU START TO CLASSIFY SOMETHING AS ONE THING I THINK IT MAYBE PREVENTS, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE FROM SERVE HOG MAY BE, YOU KNOW -- I DON'T WANT TO MAKE ANY JUDGMENT ON ANY TYPES OF FELONIES. THEY ARE ALL TERRIBLE BUT CAN SOMEBODY HELP ME WITH THE ACTIVE PENDING, HOW LONG COULD THAT BE? >> WOULD URGE THE THE COUNCIL NOT THE GET HUNG UP ON THOSE TERMS BECAUSE AGAIN AS VANMETER STATED THIS IS ADVISORY BOARD AND THE REAL PURPOSE BEHIND CODIFYING THE EXISTENCE OF CPC'S THROUGH THIS ORDINANCE IS ONE OF A COMPONENT OF CASA BUT TO ENSURE EXISTENCE OF THIS BOARD -- AS WRITTEN THEY DO NOT CONFLICT WITH THE CASA. SHOULD THE COUNCIL WISH TO CLARIFY, ALL OF THE QUESTIONS THAT VARIOUS COUNCILOR ^ S HAVE BEEN ASKING ARE BECAUSE LANGUAGE OF THE AMENDMENT AS WRITTEN ISN'T VERY CLEAR. SO, I CERTAINLY HAVE AMENDMENTS TO TIGHTEN THAT LANGUAGE AND INTENT, BUT THERE IS NO REQUIREMENT FOR THIS PARTICULAR LANGUAGE THAT IS MANDATED BY THE CASA THAT AGAIN AS WRITTEN IT DOES NOT CONFLICT. >> Coun. Davis: ANYTHING FURTHER? >> Coun. Sena: THANK YOU. I MEAN WE ALL KEEP THROWING EXAMPLES AND TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IT A BIT MORE. LET ME THROW ANOTHER ONE IN THE MIX. SAY I AM PARKED SOMEWHERE WITHIN THE CITY AND I GET A CITATION. CITATION GOES AWAY. BENCH WARRANT IS ISSUED BUT THAT IS A PENDING ACTIVE CASE OR IF I AM IN POSSESSION OF CANNABIS FOR EXAMPLE, THAT COULD BE A FELONY BUT I HAVE TO PROVE I HAVE A MEDICAL LICENSE FOR THAT CANNABIS. THAT IS ACTIVE MEDICAL CASE EVEN IF IT IS MEDICAL POSSESSION. I ACURIOUS AS TO HOW THIS WOULD APPLY FOR SERVING ON THE BOARD USING MYSELF AS EXAMPLE WHETHER IT IS PARKING TICKET THAT FLEW AWAY OR CANNABIS CHARGE. >> VANMETER IF YOU'RE QUESTION IS WITH REGARD TO SERVING ON THE CPC, I CAN ANSWER THAT. I CAN'T ANSWER THAT FOR PURPOSES OF SITTING ON THE COUNCIL BUT FOR PURPOSES OF SITTING ON CPC, FOR A WARRANT, BENCH WARRANT FOR FAILING TO APPEAR THAT WOULD BE ACTIVE CRIMINAL CHARGE EVEN IF IT WAS A PARKING TICKET. TO KIND OF CIRCLE BACK AND ANSWER COUNCILOR BORREGO'S QUESTION, ONLY DID THEY WERE CRIMINAL CHARGES WOULD THEY BE RELEVANT. WHILE THOSE KIND OF ORDINANCES THAT ARE CIVIL WOULD NOT BE APPLICABLE. WITH REGARD TO THE ACTIVE FELONY WARRANT OR CRIMINAL CHARGES THAT WOULD EXCLUDE A CRIMINAL CHARGE FOR MARIJUANA POSSESSION UNTIL THAT CHARGE IS DISMISSED AND CHARGES, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY ARE ACTIVE CHARGES, IS DURING THE PENDENCY OF THE TRIAL UNTIL THE TRIAL IS OVER, NOT DURING PENDENCY OF PROBATION. >> Coun. Davis: TO FOLLOW THAT POINT WE ALL LOOKED AT EACH AND RECOGNIZED THAT THE RULES FOR BEING ON A CPC ARE A LOT HARDER THAN TO BE ON THE CITY COUNCIL AND MAYBE WE ARE MALL CONTENT AND DEVIOUS ENOUGH WE WOULD NOT QUALIFY. BUT, HERE WE ARE, SO WE HAVE TO DECIDE. SO, COUNCILOR BASSAN, IF YOU WOULD BE AGREEABLE TO A TECHNICAL SUGGESTION TO CLARIFY THAT IT WOULD BE CURRENT, ACTIVE FELONY WARRANTS AND ACTIVE FELONY CHARGES I THINK I WOULD MAKE THAT AS A REQUEST FOR CLERK'S CLEAN-UP. IF NOT, I'LL MAKE THE MOTION AND LET THE COUNCIL DECIDE WHETHER WE SHOULD DRAW THE LINE AT FELONY OR MISDEMEANOR. >> Councilor Bassan: I TAKE THAT AS A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT AS LONG AS CITY LEGAL DOES NOT FIND ANY REASON NOT TO DO THAT. I WAS NOT COUNTING ON THIS DISCUSSION, SO, THANK YOU ALL. >> Coun. Davis: MS. VANMETER IS THAT CORRECT, THIS WOULD FURTHER LIMIT IT SO THAT WOULD BE OKAY BASED ON THE CASA. >> VANMETER I DO NOT EXPECT ANY CHALLENGES TO THAT PROPOSED LANGUAGE FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE AND MONITOR. >> Coun. Davis: THANK YOU COUNCILOR BASSAN. CLERK RECORDED THAT AZTEC AS A TECHNICAL. >> Coun. Gibson: I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND THAT WHAT WE FINALLY ENDED UP WITH IS AMENDMENT THAT INCLUDES ANY OPEN WHETHER IT IS MISDEMEANOR OR FELONY. WE DIDN'T DO THAT. >> Coun. Davis: I BELIEVE THE LINE IS SIMPLY ANY OPEN ACTIVE FELONY CHARGE PERIOD. MISDEMEANORS NOT AUTOMATIC DISQUALIFIER. >> Councilor Bassan: SO, THE NEW REVISION FROM THE AMENDMENT WOULD BE CURRENT ACTIVE FELONY WARRANTS OR FELONY CHARGES WILL DISQUALIFY A PERSON FROM MEMBERSHIP. >> Coun. Davis: THAT IS CORRECT. OKAY. IF THERE IS NO OTHER QUESTIONS, COUNCILLOR PENA. >> Coun. Pena: THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO SAY ONCE AGAIN, I ACTUALLY I STILL CAN'T SUPPORT IT. I JUST THINK IF YOU HAVE A FELONY CHARGE IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT YOU ARE GUILTY OF THAT FELONY. SO, IF YOU'RE WAITING TRIAL AND AS YOU KNOW OUR COURT SYSTEM TAKES FOR EVER, IT COULD BE DISMISSED AND YOU CAN'T SERVE DURING THAT DURATION YOU'RE TRYING TO GET ON TO THE CPC AND THEN IF YOU DO GO TO TRIAL AND THEY SAY, OKAY, WELL, YOU'RE NOT GUILTY, CAN YOU SERVE TOMORROW. SO I THINK IT DOESN'T DO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET DONE. THAT IS IT. >> Coun. Davis: SEEING NO OTHER DISCUSSION, THE CLERK WILL CALL THE VOTE ON THE FLOOR AMENDMENT NO. 1, TECHNICAL CHANGE AS NOTED. >> Councilor Bassan: YES. >> Coun. Benton: YES. >> Coun. Borrego: SORRY ABOUT THAT. I VOTED NO AND I STILL HAVE CONCERNS WITH CITY ORDINANCE VIOLATIONS. >> Coun. Gibson: YES. >> Coun. Harris: YES. >> Coun. Jones: YES. >> Coun. Pena: NO. >> Coun. Sena: NO. >> Coun. Davis: YES. THAT PASSES ON A 6-3 VOTE. YOU HAVE ANOTHER AMENDMENT, FLOOR AMENDMENT NO. 2. >> Councilor Bassan: I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE AMENDMENT 2 TO O-20-27. ON PAGE FOR, LINE 17 ADD FOLLOWING SENTENCE TO BEGINNING OF SUBSECTION A. COMMUNITY POLICING COUNCILS ARE FUNDED AS PART OF THE BUDGET OF THE CIVILIAN POLICE OVERSIGHT AGENCY. THIS IS ALTHOUGH IT IS IMPLICIT, I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT WE CLARIFY EXACTLY WHERE THIS IS GOING TO FALL ON THE BUDGET AND WHERE CPC'S WILL GET THEIR OVERSIGHT FROM AND WHERE IT IS GOING TO BE. >> Coun. Davis: SECOND IT FOR THE PURPOSE OF THE RECORD. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THAT ITEM? SEEING NONE. WOULD YOU CALL THE VOTE. >> Councilor Bassan: YES. >> Coun. Benton: YES. >> Coun. Borrego: YES. >> Coun. Gibson: YES. >> Coun. Jones: YES. >> Coun. Pena: YES. >> Coun. Sena: YES. >> Coun. Davis: YES. 8-0. >> Councilor Bassan: MOVE AMENDMENT 3, PAGE 6, LINE 5, ADD FOLLOWING, NO CPC MEMBER SHALL RUN FOR OR HOLD ELECTIVE OFFICE WHILE SERVING ON THE CPC. >> Coun. Borrego: SECOND. >> Coun. Davis: THANK YOU. COULD I ASK CITY LEGAL A QUICK QUESTION IF THERE ARE NO OTHER QUESTIONS OR COUNCILOR BASSAN, IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING FURTHER. MS. VANMETER OR MR. AGUILAR. I JUST WANT TO BE SURE, AGAIN, THIS IS ADVISORY BOARD. I THINK IT SHOULD BE ABSOLUTELY CLEAR IN RELATION TO THE CITY AND PERHAPS THE COUNTY OR THE SHERIFF OR WHATNOT, BUT, IS THERE ANY FIRST AMENDMENT ISSUES WITH THIS? IN OTHER WORDS LIKE IF SOMEBODY IT RUNNING FOR AMAFCA OR THE COUNTY COMMISSION AND PARTICIPATING AS A CITIZEN. >> VANMETER: I DON'T KNOW OF ANY LEGAL CHALLENGES TO THIS IN CONTEXT OF OTHER CITY ADVISORY BOARDS. PERHAPS MR. AGUILAR HAS MORE KNOWLEDGE. I DON'T BELIEVE THERE IS A FIRST AMENDMENT ISSUE. >> AGUILAR: I DON'T DISAGREE. WE WOULD NEED TO LOOK AT IT IN MORE DETAIL BUT, I MEAN, IT IS A VOLUNTEER BOARD, ADVISORY BOARD. SO, I DON'T SEE THAT HAS BEING UNREASONABLE RESTRICTION ON THE FIRST AMENDMENT. >> Coun. Davis: JUST OCCURRED TO ME AND PROBABLY LIKE OUT OF THE BLUE RABBIT HOLE. >> Coun. Gibson: THANK YOU. SO, I JUST HAVE A QUESTION. OFFICE HOLDER OF WHAT? WHAT IF YOU'RE ON AMAFCA OR SOME OTHER MRGCD? >> Councilor Bassan: THEY ARE ELECTED. >> Coun. Jones: THAT IS WHY I AM ASKING THE QUESTION. ARE ALL OF THOSE OFFICES INCLUDED? >> Councilor Bassan: I THINK THAT YOU KNOW I'LL GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY HOW THIS CAME TO ME THROUGH MY CONSTITUENTS IN PARTICULAR, IS THAT THERE THAT IS BOUND RIFF WANTING TO MAKE SURE THERE IS NOBODY THAT WANTS TO ALL OF A SUDDEN BE ON THE CPC AND USE IT AS PLATFORM TO RUN FOR ELECTED OFFICE OR KIND OF IT MADE PEOPLE FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE IF THAT HAPPENED AND I SEE DIRECTOR HARNESS IS NODDING HIS HEAD. THIS IS SOMETHING THROUGH CONVERSATIONS. I AM OPEN TO FIGURING OUT A MORE SPECIFIC RESPONSE BUT ELECTED OFFICE. IF SOMEBODY IS GOING TO BE CAMPAIGNING, THEY SHOULD FOR THE SAKE OF CONFLICTS OF INTEREST, RESIGN FROM THEIR POSITION ON A CPC OR ANY OTHER COUNCIL SO THAT WAY THERE IS JUST NO QUESTION ABOUT IT AND THEY CAN FOCUS ON THEIR GOAL. >> Coun. Davis: ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THAT QUESTION? >> Councilor Bassan: URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >> Councilor Bassan: YES. >> Coun. Benton: YES. >> Coun. Borrego: YES. >> Coun. Gibson: YES. >> Coun. Harris: YES. >> Coun. Jones: YES. >> Coun. Pena: YES. >> Coun. Sena: YES. >> Coun. Davis: YES. PASS ON 8-1 VOTE. >> *** >> O-27 AS AMENDED. >> Coun. Pena: THOSE AMENDMENTS WERE OKAY. GOOD JOB. SO, I JUST AGAIN WANT TO ENCOURAGE EVERYONE'S SUPPORT. I JUST REALLY HAVE TO KIND OF TAKE SOMETIME HERE TOO JUST THANK THE FOLKS FROM DOJ, ELIZABETH, OUR ATTORNEYS, VANMETER, CHRIS, OUR STAFFER, JEFF, NANCY, MEMBERS OF THE CPC, THEY WORKED HARD TO MAKE THESE NECESSARY CHANGES. MR. ED HARNESS. ELIZABETH. THIS IS REALLY AN IMPORTANT PIECE OF LEGISLATION THAT HAS TAKEN TIME TO GET PASSED AND WORKED THROUGH AND NEGOTIATED. LIKE I SAID THE MEMBER REALLY HAVE WORKED HARD TO LOOK AT WHERE DISPARITIES WERE AND MAKE THOSE NECESSARY CHANGES. I WANT TO COMMEND THEM ESPECIALLY BUT THIS REALLY HELPS TO CREATE DIVERSITY. IT ELIMINATES BARRIERS TO SERVING ON BOARDS WHICH TO ME IS AWESOME BECAUSE WE HAVE A HUGE ISSUE THIS. SO I LOOK FORWARD TO, YOU KNOW, ASKING PEOPLE TO SERVE AND AS LONG AS THEY DON'T HAVE AN ACTIVE FELONY, THEY HAVE GOT A SHOT. URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >> Coun. Davis: CALL THE VOTE. >> Councilor Bassan: YES. >> Coun. Benton: YES. >> Coun. Borrego: YES. GREAT JOB COUNCILOR PENA. >> Coun. Gibson: YES. >> Coun. Harris: YES. >> Coun. Jones: YES. >> Coun. Pena: YES I HOPE I SAID THANKS TO CHRIS MELENDRES. >> Coun. Sena: YES. >> Coun. Davis: YES. PASSES UNANIMOUSLY AS AMENDED. >> Coun. Davis: THANK YOU. CONGRATULATIONS. YOU REMEMBER F, G AND H WERE ITEMS WE TOOK UP EARLIER. J. A NUISANCE SUBSTANDARD DWELLING IN NEED OF ABATEMENT AT 8411 CENTRAL NORTHEAST. I MAKE A MOTION THAT IT DO PASS. >> THANK YOU. >> Coun. Sena: SECOND. >> Coun. Davis: ANY DISCUSSION OR COMMENTS FROM THE ADMINISTRATION WHO WAITED PATIENTLY TO DISCUSS THIS. DIRECTOR WILLIAMS IF YOU WANT TO TELL US ANYTHING ABOUT IT. WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS AT LENGTHS AT COMMITTEE AND VARIOUS OTHER MEETINGS. >> WILLIAMS: THIS IS A FORMER RESTAURANT VACANT ABANDONED RESTAURANT LOCATED NEAR CENTRAL AND WYOMING THAT HAS BEEN PROBLEMATIC FOR. >> AND A HALF YEARS. SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF POLICE AND FIRE CALLS TO THE PROPERTY IN PAST 12 MONTHS ALONE. POLICE OUT 12 TIMES AND FIRE DEPARTMENT OUT TWICE. APPROXIMATELY 12,200 WORTH OF LIENS AGAINST THE PROPERTY FOR BOARD UP AND CLEAN-UP WORK THAT HAS TAKEN PLACE RECENTLY. MOST RECENTLY, WE HAVE HAD TO WELD METAL PLATES TO THE DOORS AND WINDOWS IN ORDER TO KEEP TRESPASSERS OUT OF THE BUILDING. THEY CAN CONTINUALLY ARE IN THERE, CAUSE FIRES, THERE IS EVIDENCE OF DRUG USE AND THAT SORT OF THING, QUITE A BIT OF TRASH AND DEBRIS ON THE INSIDE AS WELL. SEVERAL ENFORCEMENT ACTION ^ S HAVE TAKEN PLACE OVER THE YEARS. 2018, WORK WAS DONE BY CODE ENFORCEMENT TO ENFORCE THE CRAB DATED COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS AND PROPERTIES STANDARDS FOR THAT. OWNER BACK IN 2018 DID REGISTER THE PROPERTY AND PROVIDE US WITH A WRITTEN PLAN. BUT THERE WAS NEVER ANY FOLLOW THROUGH. IN 2019, A CRIMINAL COMPLAINT WAS FILED AGAINST THE PROPERTY OWNER, FOR THE CONTINUED NUISANCE OF THE SITE. WE DID ENTER INTO A PLEA AGREEMENT WITH OWNER. BUT AGAIN THOSE PROMISED ACTIONS NEVER TOOK PLACE. MULTIPLE ATTEMPTS HAVE BEEN MADE TO CONTACT THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY WHO PREVIOUSLY WAS COMMUNICATING AND ENGAGING WITH US BUT ALL OF THAT HAS CEASED. SEVERAL ATTEMPTS MADE RECENTLY TO CONTACTS OWNER USING TELEPHONE NUMBER BUT CALLS MADE IN LATE AUGUST, EARLY SEPTEMBER AND AS RECENTLY AS TODAY ALL RESULTED IN A MESSAGE INDICATING THAT THE VOICE MAIL HAD NOT BEEN SET UP ON THE PHONE. WITH THAT I'LL STAND FOR QUESTIONS BUT WOULD ASK THAT COUNCIL MOVE FORWARD ON THIS CONDEMNATION REQUEST. >> Coun. Davis: ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS OR QUESTIONS? >> Coun. Pena: I WANT TO MAKE A BRIEF STATEMENT JUST, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I THINK THERE WAS CONFUSION IN WHAT HAD OCCURRED INITIALLY, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WERE TELLING ME YOU VOTED AGAINST IT AND I WISH MY ONE VOLT COULD KILL SOMETHING BUT IT DOESN'T WORK LIKE THAT. ANYWAY, I WANT TO SAY EVERYONE KNOWS IT HAS BEEN TALKED ABOUT A LOT BUT I USUALLY VOTE AGAINST THESE IN KIND OF LIKE PROTEST IN TERMS OF REALLY WISHING THAT THE CITY AND HOPING AND I KNOW I TALKED WITH COUNCILLOR BENTON AND HE WITNESSES TO WORK ON SOME LEGISLATION TO ACTUALLY HELP AND DEVELOP SOME KIND OF PROGRAM TO HELP PEOPLE TO MAKE THESE REPAIRS WHEN THEY CAN'T AFFORD IT, RIGHT? SO, I LOOK FORWARD TO THAT. WE ARE ALREADY LOOKING I MENTIONED BEFORE, WE ARE ALREADY DOING A LITTLE BIT OF RESEARCH SO ONCE WE GET THAT PUT TOGETHER BUT IN TERMS OF THE IMMEDIATE ACTION, FOR THAT, I MEAN, I AM NOT CHANGES MY STANCE ON WAY FEEL ABOUT MAKING SURE WE DON'T MAKE PEOPLE HOMELESS IN THE PROCESS OF TRYING TO ADDRESS SOME OTHER ISSUE AND I KNOW THIS IS A COMMERCIAL BUILDING SO I KNOW IT IS DIFFERENT BUT STILL SOMEBODY WHO OWNS THIS PROPERTY WHO OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, EITHER HASN'T BEEN ABLE TO MAKE REPAIRS OR HAS JUST WALK $AWAY FROM IT. IN TERMS OF IMMEDIATE ACTION I WOULD SUPPORT THAT. THANK YOU. >> Coun. Davis: THANK YOU FOR THE MOTION EARLIER THIS EVENING. SEEING NO OTHER DISCUSSION, MADAM CLERK. >> Councilor Bassan: YES. >> Coun. Benton: YES. >> Coun. Borrego: YES. >> Coun. Gibson: YES. >> Coun. Harris: YES. >> Coun. Jones: YES. >> Coun. Pena: YES. >> Coun. Sena: YES. >> Coun. Davis: YES. PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >> R-86. >> Coun. Gibson: THANK YOU. THIS IS R-86, CREATING A TASKFORCE TO EXPLORE OPTIONS FOR IMPLEMENTING MINIMUM SICK LEAVE REQUIREMENTS IN THE CITY. I'LL MOVE A DO PASS ON THIS. >> Councilor Bassan: SECOND. >> Coun. Gibson: THANK YOU FOR THAT SECOND. I KNOW THIS IS NOT ONE PERSON HAS TOLD ME THEY ARE HAPPY WITH THIS BILL SO, I AM EXPECTING A LOT OF OPPOSITION. BUT LET ME SAY THIS, WE HAVE SEEN PRETTY MUCH THE SAME LANGUAGE COME UP THREE OR FOUR TIMES AND IT HASN'T BEEN SUCCESSFUL. SO I AM NOT REALLY EXPECTING MIRACLES WITH THIS BUT I THINK THAT IT IS A GOOD WAY TO AT LEAST TAKE SOME FORWARD MOTION IN GETTING PEOPLE WHO REPRESENTED OR WHO ARE WORKING PEOPLE WHO DON'T HAVE ANY SICK LEAVE AND PEOPLE TO REPRESENT THEM AS WELL AS PEOPLE ON THE BOARD ON THIS TASKFORCE WHO KNOW WHAT IT IS LIKE TO MAKE PAYROLL. JUST TO CONSIDER SOME RATHER GENERAL OPTIONS, YOU KNOW, AND COME UP WITH -- TO SEE IF THERE IS ANY COMMONALITY. I THINK THERE HAS BEEN. I HAVE TALKED WITH BUSINESSES WHO -- CALLED BUSINESS OWNERS WHO, YOU KNOW, WITH LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING AND ACTUALLY ARE ACTUALLY PROVIDING SOMETHING NOW. THIS IS MY ATTEMPT AT MOVING THAT DOWN THE ROAD A LITTLE BIT. AND GETTING SOME INITIAL MOVEMENT GOING FORWARD. THANK YOU. >> Coun. Sena: I HAVE AN AMENDMENT. I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THAT AMENDMENT. IT IS IN YOUR COUNCIL PACKETS. AMENDMENT 1. TO 20-86. PAGE 2, LINE 5, STRIKE THE LANGUAGE 6 AND REPLACE WITH SEVEN. ON PAGE, 2, AFTER LINE 11, INSERT THE FOLLOWING, ONE REPRESENTATIVE WITH EXPERTISE IN PUBLIC HEALTH, A PERSON WITH EITHER DIRECT EXPERIENCE IN POPULATION HEALTH OR WHO IS A MEMBER OF THE NEW MEXICO PUBLIC HEALTH ASSOCIATION. WILL EXPLANATION FOR THIS IS REALLY THIS AMENDMENT ADDS ANOTHER MEMBER TO THE TASKFORCE WITH EXPERTISE IN PUBLIC HEALTH WHO CAN INFORM OTHER MEMBERS OF THE TASKFORCE REGARDING RELATED DATE ARESEARCH AND EXPERTISE IN PUBLIC HEALTH ISSUES CONSIDERING THAT THE RESOLUTION STATES IN SECTION FOR THAT IT IS SUPPOSED TO BE A FACTS FINDING BODY AND THEY MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS BUT NOT THE FINAL DECISIONS. I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE SOMEONE WITH SPECIAL EXPERTISE ON THE FACTS FINALEDDING BODY. >> Coun. Benton: SECOND. >> ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? >> I THOUGHT I SAW YOUR HAND. IT THERE GUESS. >> Coun. Borrego: I JUST HAD A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FOR THE SPONSOR OF THIS BILL. ARE WE TALKING ABOUT AMENDMENT OR THE BILL? >> Coun. Davis: FLOOR AMENDMENT NO. 1. >> Coun. Borrego: I'LL WAIT THEN. I HAVE QUESTIONS ON THE BILL ITSELF. >> Coun. Jones: I HAVE ONE QUESTION. THAT IS, SO, WE WILL HAVE A TASKFORCE THAT DETERMINES SOMETHING HEALTH RELATED. WILL WE HAVE A FINANCIAL OR A FINANCIAL ADVISORS LOOKING AT THIS TO SEE IF IT IS ECONOMICALLY FEASIBLE OR ALL BUSINESSES (INAUDIBLE) OR IS IT ONE SIZE FITS ALL WITH SICK LEAVE. IF WE ARE GOING TO CALL IN EXPERTS, THERE ARE ANY NUMBER OF EXPERTS IN DIFFERENT AREAS, NOT JUST HEALTH OFFICIALS. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT SMALL BUSINESS WHICH IS BASIS OF OUR COMMUNITY. ARE WE LOOKING AT POTENTIALLY COVERING PART OF THES CAN TO GOVERNMENT OR ALL ON THE SHOULDERS OF EMPLOYERS? >> THAT IS ALL THE QUESTIONS. >> Coun. Davis: SEEING NO OTHER DISCUSSION, COUNCILOR SENA TO RESPOND. >> Coun. Sena: I JUST WANT TO ADDRESS THAT. WE DID DO THE STUDY ON THIS AND A FIVE YEAR LONG CONVERSATION ON THIS TOPIC AND IN THINKING OF US BEING IN A PANDEMIC RIGHT NOW WE HAVE THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH, WE HAVE CDC GUIDING US ON WHETHER OR NOT WE SHOULD CONTINUE THE ALLOW OUR WORKERS TO GO TO WORK OR IF THEY SHOULD STAY HOME. THAT IS WHY SICK LEAVE IN ITSELF IS REALLY A MATTER OF PUBLIC HEALTH AND THAT IS WHY I PROPOSE THIS AMENDMENT TO EVALUATE IT AND PRESENT THE FACTS THAT WHEN EVALUATING SICK LEAVE AS A PUBLIC HEALTH ISSUE THESE ARE THE FACTS AS TO HOW IT IS BENEFICIAL OR NOT. THEY ARE THERE JUST TO PRESENT THE FACTS. IT IS ONE MEMBER. THERE IS THREE OTHER MEMBERS AS EMPLOYERS AND THREE AS EMPLOYEE ADVOCATES OR UNIONS AND SUCH. I THINK THAT IS WHY I REALLY ADDED ONE MEMBER AND NEVER EVALUATED THIS AS A PUBLIC HEALTH ISSUE. BEING A MEMBER AND INDIVIDUAL WITH EXPERTISE IN HEALTH POLICY AND PUBLIC HEALTH, THAT IS THE WAY THAT I HAVE EVALUATED THIS PARTICULAR POLICY AND WHY I AM SO PASSIONATE ABOUT IT, BECAUSE IT IMPACTS SO MANY PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY NOW IN A PANDEMIC. I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >> Coun. Davis: WE'LL TAKE THAT AS CLOSE. >> Councilor Bassan: NO. >> Coun. Benton: YES. >> Coun. Borrego: NO. >> Coun. Gibson: YES. >> Coun. Harris: NO. >> Coun. Jones: NO. >> Coun. Pena: YES. >> Coun. Sena: YES. >> Coun. Davis: YES. THAT PASSES ON A 5-4 VOTE. >> Coun. Davis: BACK ON THE BILL AS AMENDED. OTHER DISCUSSION ON THE BILL. COUNCILOR BORREGO YOU HAD SOMETHING YOU WANTED TO BRING UP ON THE BILL. >> Coun. Borrego: I WANT TO ASK THE SPONSOR OF THE BILL, HOW THEY CAME UP WITH THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE ON THIS TASKFORCE AND JUST, YOU KNOW, KIND OF GET SOME INDICATION AS TO WHY SIX IS A MAGIC NUMBER. THAT IS WHY I VOTED AGAINST THE PUBLIC HEALTH BECAUSE I THINK COUNCILOR JONES HAD A REALLY GOOD POINT ABOUT THERE IS OTHER AREAS THAT COULD ALSO BE INCLUDED. I JUST WANTED TO UNDERSTAND A LITTLE BIT MORE. >> Coun. Gibson: IF I MAY. THERE IS NOT REALLY ANYTHING IMAGINE PICK THAT NUMBER. INTENT WAS FOR A LITTLE BIT SMALLER SO WE COULD (INAUDIBLE) LOOK FOR POTENTIAL AREAS WHERE WE KIND FIND AGREEMENT AND MOVE ON THAT GOING AFTER (INAUDIBLE). WE HAVE DONE SOME RESEARCH AND FACT FINDING. >> TO SEE IF WE CAN BUILD CONSENSUS ON ANYTHING. I DON'T KNOW HOW DETAILED -- (INAUDIBLE) BACK OFF AND LET THEM DO THEIR THING. SEE WHAT THEY COME UP WITH. BUT, OF THERE IS NOT REALLY ANYTHING -- >> Coun. Borrego: COUNCILOR, THE REASON THAT I ASKED THAT QUESTION IS BECAUSE THERE WERE TWO LETTERS IN OUR EMAILS FROM BOTH CHAMBERS IN ALBUQUERQUE, CHAMBER OF COMMERCE AND THE HISPANO CHAMBER SAYING THEY ARE OPPOSED TO THIS. THAT IS WHY I WAS ASKING THE QUESTION. >> Coun. Gibson: THAT IS A GOOD POINT. IF I MAY, THEY DO BRING UP A GOOD POINT. I HAVE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH SOME OF THOSE FOLKS. I THINK THAT EVENTUALLY COUNCIL WILL PASS SOMETHING FOR THE PEOPLE OF ALBUQUERQUE WILL VOTE IN FAVOR TO ADOPT SOMETHING AND I WANT TO GIVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR BOTH EMPLOYERS AS WELL AS EMPLOYEES TO HAVE A FORUM FOR DISCUSSION ON SOME OF THESE THINGS. THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS. LET ME JUST GIVE AN EXAMPLE. A FRIEND OF MINE HAD A BREAD STORE AND HE DID OFFER SOME HIS OWN VERSION OF SICK PAY. AND IT WASN'T THAT HE WAS OPPOSED TO THE IDEA OF SICK PAY, IT IS JUST THAT THEY DIDN'T REALLY WANT TO RESTRUCTURE WHAT HE HAD. WE ARE GOING TO HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO KNOW AND MAYBE HAVE EVEN LIKE MY FRIEND, NOT HAVE STRUCTURED SOMETHING WHICH REALLY MAY BE HELPFUL TO THAT DISCUSSION. SIX PEOPLE IS SMALL AND CONVERSATIONAL AND THEY CAN GO FROM THERE. AFTER THEY WRAP UP WHAT THEY THINK THEY CAN WRAP UP WE CAN TAKE IT FORWARD AND PUT A LARGER BOARD PERHAPS. (INAUDIBLE). >> Coun. Sena: I WANT TO SAY THAT REACHING OUT TO A LOT OF CHAMBERS ASSOCIATIONS BUSINESSES, AND WHAT I HAVE BEEN TELLING PEOPLE IS THAT YOU CAN BRING FORTH SOLUTIONS AND SUGGESTIONS. WHAT ARE THINGS THAT YOUR COMFORTABLE WITH, BECAUSE LET'S GET TO THE MAIN ISSUE THAT WE ARE IN A PANDEMIC BECAUSE OF OF A VERY INFECTIOUS VIRUS AND PEOPLE WHO GO TO WORK SICK WILL GIVE IT TO OTHERS. WE CAN'T IGNORE THE ISSUE THAT SICK LEAVE IS CRITICAL AND IMPORTANT. IT IS A PUBLIC HEALTH ISSUE. SO, YOU KNOW, WHAT I LIKE ABOUT THIS IS THAT YOU STILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO VOICE WHAT SICK LEAVE LOOKS LIKE. BUT, LET'S NOT, YOU KNOW, PRETEND THAT IT IS NOT -- I DON'T WANT TO SAY PRETEND BUT LET'S NOT SET ASIDE THE CRITICAL ISSUE IS THAT PEOPLE ARE DYING, PEOPLE ARE GETTING SICK, STILL, THE LAST TIME WE ADDRESSED PAID SICK LEAVE, THE COVID-19 NUMBERS WERE 11,809. TODAY, AS WE BRING UP PAID SICK LEAVE ONCE AGAIN IT IS 27,000 27,000. >> WHEN WE LOOK AT DEATH IT IS FOR 492 AND TODAY IS 851. WE HAVE TO MOVE FORWARD. WHETHER IT IS TASKFORCE, WE ARE STILL TALKING TO EMPLOYEE ADVOCATES AND EMPLOYERS. I HAVE ALWAYS BEEN RECEPTIVE TO THAT IN LISTENING TO OUR COMMUNITY. WE HAVE TO BE PRODUCTIVE ABOUT IT. SO, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT HOWEVER WE MOVE FORWARD THAT AGAIN PEOPLE ARE GETTING SICK AND DYING AND I HAVE GONE THROUGH CHEMO BY MYSELF AND A LOT OF PATIENTS ARE ENDURING BEFORE THE PANDEMIC, THEY WOULD GO TO TREATMENT BY THEMSELVES BECAUSE OF LACK OF PAID SICK LEAVE. THIS IS A CRITICAL ISSUE. WE HAVE TO MOVE FORWARD. REGARDLESS AND REALLY I THINK THAT WE ARE ALWAYS OPEN AND RECEPTIVE TO SUGGESTIONS BUT I THINK IT IS STILL CRITICAL THAT WE MOVE FORWARD. THANK YOU. >> Coun. Benton: I TOO HAVE HAD SOME GOOD DISCUSSIONS WITH SOME FOLKS AT THE LAST GO ROUND. YOU KNOW. I MADE STATEMENTS ABOUT HOW I WASN'T GOING TO GIVE UP AND I DON'T THINK I SPOKE TO COUNCILOR ZNA BUT I SAW PEOPLE GET ALARMED AGAIN. I SAID, I AM BEING HONEST WITH YOU IT IS SOMETHING IMPORTANT TO ME THAT I AM NOT GOING TO GIVE UP ON. YOU TOLD ME, LET'S ASSUME I WERE SUCCESSFUL IN WORKING TOGETHER WITH OTHERS TO PASS SOMETHING, WHAT WOULD YOU WANT TO BE IN IT? BECAUSE I HEARD FROM SO MANY EMPLOYERS, I AM NOT AGAINST SICK LEAVE OR I AM NOT AGAINST EARNED TIME OFF. ET CETERA. SO I SAID TELL ME WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE, BASICS FROM A LOT OF PEOPLE SAID YOU HAD IT WAY OVERCOOKED. IT WAS WAY TOO COMPLICATED AND TOO MUCH RECORD KEEPING. I GO, FINE, TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AND TELL ME WHAT IS LEFT IN THERE THAT YOU COULD SUPPORT. TALKING ABOUT BUSINESS FOLKS YOU KNOW. TO THEIR CREDIT SOME OF THEM REALLY WERE THOUGHTFULLY DID THAT AND THEY ARE PROBABLY SOMEBODY I WOULD SUGGEST BE APPOINTED TO THE ADVISORY GROUP. THEY ARE RESPECTED BUSINESS AND IF YOU HEARD THEIR NAME EVERYONE HERE ON THE COUNCIL WOULD KNOW WHO THEY ARE. PROBABLY EVERYONE IN NEW MEXICO WOULD KNOW WHO THEY ARE. SO, YEAH, THIS CAN'T DO HARM. WE HAVE HAD A LOT OF IMPASSE OVER MANY YEARS NOW OVER THIS SPECIFIC ISSUE. IT IS DISAPPOINTING TO HEAR FROM TWO CHAMBERS WE DON'T WANT TO TALK ANYMORE. OKAY, THERE WE ARE. THEN WE DON'T TALK ANYMORE AND DON'T GET ANY FEEDBACK FROM ONE ANOTHER. >> Coun. Davis: LET ME ECHO THAT TO JUST SAY ON THE WAY BACK TO SPONSOR, I AGREE. I BELIEVE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS IMPORTANT AND SOMETHING THAT I WORKED ON BEFORE I CAME TO CITY COUNCIL WITH SOME OF THE COMMUNITY GROUPS AND IT IS SOMETHING WE WORKED ON. I CARRIED A ROBUST VERSION OF THE SICK LEAVE BILL TWO YEARS AGO AND GAVE ADVOCATES A YEAR TO BUILD COMMUNITY SUPPORT AND EXTRA VOTES AT CITY COUNCIL AND THEY WEREN'T ABLE TO DO THAT. SANCHEZ AND COUNCILLOR BENTON AND COUNCILOR PENA SAT COUNCIL TO WORK WITH ORGANIZATIONS AND TRY TO COME UP WITH STRATEGY. WE WERE LOOKING FOR MIDDLE GROUNDS. I THINK EVERYBODY SHOULD HAVE SICK LEAVE PERIOD. I THINK IT IS SOMETHING WE DO TO MAKE OUR CITY A BETTER PLACE AND TAKE CARE OF EACH OTHER. I RECOGNIZE THERE AREN'T ENOUGH VOTES TO DO IT MY WAY. I DO THINK IT IS IRRESPONSIBLE FOR THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT SOME OF THESE GROUPS REPRESENT TO JUST SAY, THEY ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS ANYMORE AND RETREAT AND SAY NO. AT THE SAME TIME THEY SAY THAT SO MANY OF THEIR MEMBERS DO PROVIDE SICK LEAVE AND AT THE SAME TIME THEY ARE ASKING THE CITY TO PROVIDE THEM WITH MONEY FOR PUBLIC HEALTH REMEDIATION AND TO SOLVE PUBLIC HEALTH PROBLEMS FOR EMPLOYEES IN THEIR WORKPLACE. THE REASON WE NEED SICK LEAVE IS BECAUSE WHEN THINGS LIKE THIS HAPPEN, THE MORE FOLKS WHO HAVE THE ABILITY TO STAY HOME AND QUARANTINE MEANS THAT THINGS LIKE COVID-19 WOULD NOT BE AS WIDESPREAD IF THEY WEREN'T REQUIRED TO COME BACK AND WORK WHERE THEY CAN INFECT SOME MORE PEOPLE. IT THIS IS A COMMUNITY CONVERSATION WE SHOULD HAVE TALKING QUITE FRANKLY CAN'T HURT. SO, I APPLAUD SPONSOR FOR TRYING A DIFFERENT WAY. I TRIED MINE, DIDN'T WORK. OTHERS DIDN'T WORK. SO, LET'S DO ANOTHER ONE. ONE OF THESE IS GOING TO HAPPEN. TALKS CAN'T HURT. I WOULD BE IN SUPPORT BECAUSE I AM WILLING TO TRY WHATEVER THE NEXT THING IS. THAT BEING SAID, COUNCILOR BORREGO WITH A COMMENT. >> Coun. Borrego: WOULD THE SPONSOR CONSIDER DEERING THIS FOR A MONTH AND SEE IF WE COULD TALK WITH CHAMBERS A LITTLE BIT MORE BECAUSE I MEAN THE CHAMBERERS INTEGRAL PART OF THE WHOLE EQUATION. TO RECEIVE LETTERS FROM THEM SAYING THEY ARE NOT JUST NOT GOING TO PARTICIPATE. THOSE ARE BUSINESSES THAT WE NEED TO INCLUDE AND I DON'T KNOW THAT SIX IS A MAGIC NUMBER OR SEVEN. SO, I DON'T DISAGREE THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT OUR SICK LEAVE. I HAVE A NIECE WHO WAS WORKING AS A WAITRESS AND WAS NOT BEING PAID AND WAS STANDING UP FOR SOME OF THE IMMIGRANTS THAT DID NOT GET PAID AND SO IT IS PERSONAL, A LITTLE BIT, BUT ON THE OTHER HAND I THINK THAT TO MOVE FORWARD WITHOUT THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY IS REALLY VERY, VERY CONCERNING TO ME. BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, HOW DO YOU PASS SOMETHING WHERE THEY ARE NOT EVEN AT THE TABLE. THIS IS JUST NOT GOOD GOVERNMENT, I THINK. I THINK EVERYBODY NEEDS TO BE AT THE TABLE AND MAYBE THE MAGIC NUMBER IS 10. I DON'T KNOW. MAYBE IT IS 15. I DON'T KNOW. BUT I AM WONDERING IF THE SPONSOR WOULD CONSIDER MAKING AN ATTEMPT TO -- IF WE DID GET THESE LETTERS THIS AFTERNOON, NONE OF US HAD REALLY HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK WITH THEM OR RESPOND TO THEM. >> Coun. Gibson: THANK YOU. I WOULD REALLY RATHER NONE DEFER THIS. LET ME SEE IF I CAN EXPLAIN TO YOU WHY. Z IT IS TO GET DISCUSSIONS GOING WHERE PEOPLE CAN BE HEARD AN SPEAK. THAT HAPPENS BETTER WITH SMALLER GROUP. THIS IS JUST FIRST THING. THE FIRST THING OUT OF THE BOX. I DON'T EXPECT THAT EVERYBODY WILL PARTICIPATE WHO WOULD LIKE TO PARTICIPATE BUT THERE IS GOING TO BE PLENTY OF OPPORTUNITIES AFTER THIS INITIAL TASKFORCE. THIS IS JUST A PLACE FOR SOL DISCUSSION, SOME FACTS FINDING AND POTENTIAL AREAS WHERE THERE IS SOME COMMONALITY. NO. YOU KNOW, I WOULD PREFER JUST TO GET THIS GOING. I APPRECIATE YOUR THOUGHTS. I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING THAT IT IS BETTER TO HAVE EITHER HISPANO CHAMBER OR ALBUQUERQUE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, I THINK THERE IS GOING TO BE OPPORTUNITIES FOR THEM. ACTUALLY, MAYBE GETTING THIS GOING WILL BRING MORE INTEREST AND CURIOSITY AND A DESIRE TO PARTICIPATE IN A LARGER CONVERSATION. I JUST URGE YOUR SUPPORT. EVERYONE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. FOR A GOOD DISCUSSION ON THIS. >> Coun. Davis: CALL THE VOTE. >> Councilor Bassan: NO. >> Coun. Benton: YES. >> Coun. Borrego: NO. >> Coun. Gibson: YES. >> Coun. Harris: NO. >> Coun. Jones: NO. >> Coun. Pena: NO. >> Coun. Sena: YES. >> Coun. Davis: YES. THAT FAILS ON A 4-5 VOTE. >> R-89. >> Coun. Pena: R89 CLAYING IMPLEMENTATION OF THE TWENTY 18 INTERNATIONAL ENERGY CONSERVATION CODE FOR A PERIOD OF APPROXIMATELY SIX MONTHS TO ALLOW THE CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY TIME TO ADAPT TO NEW REQUIREMENTS REQUIRING A STUDY TO BE CONDUCTED ON THE PRICE INCREASE OF RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT. I WAS GOING TO JUST WITHDRAW THIS BILL BUT I SEE THE AMENDMENT THAT YOU GUY PUT IN. I THOUGHT IT WAS PRETTY GOOD SO I WOULD URGE YOUR SUPPORT WITH THE PASSAGE OF YOUR VERY LENGTHSY AMENDMENT. >> Coun. Davis: I'LL TAKE COUNCILOR BENTON'S HANDS AS A SECOND. >> Coun. Benton: SECOND. >> THANK YOU COUNCILLOR PENA FOR THAT. SO, HERE IS WHERE WE ARE. IT IS EVOLVING ISSUE. THIS AMENDMENT WAS IN THE PACKET ON FRIDAY. IT HAS SOME SMALL TWEAKS IT TO SINCE THEN BUT NOTHING SIGNIFICANT. WHERE WE ARE WITH THE SITUATION IS THE STATE HAS PASSED THE 18 CODE, WE HAVE PASSED 18 CODE. THE STATE IS DOING A SIX MONTH GRACE PERIOD. IN WHICH YOU CAN CHOOSE TO APPLY UNDER EITHER CODE. AND THIS WOULD DO THAT FOR US. SO, IT WOULD TRACK -- IT IS MARCH 1 ROUGHLY. WE SAY MARCH 1. THAT IS RIGHT AROUND THE TIME IT STATE IS GOING TO FINALLY END THEIR GRACE PERIOD. OURS MAY BE A FEW DAYS BEFORE. >> BUT, BASICALLY, THAT IS THE FIRST THING IS TO GET IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE STATE ON THE DATE OF THE GRACE PERIOD. AND THEN, SECONDLY, BECAUSE THE STATE ALREADY PASSED THIS, WE DON'T HAVE THE LUXURY OF DISCUSSING THE 2009 ANYMORE. THE STATE HAS ALREADY PASSED IT AND WE CANNOT HAVE A WEAKER CODE THAN THE 2009, BUT AT LEAST THAT IS DESCRIBED, COUNCILOR PENA'S ORIGINAL BILL, AND I AM INTERESTED IN TALKING ABOUT THOSE ISSUES. WE KIND OF LOOKED INTO HOW COMPLICATED AND WHAT THAT STUDY MIGHT REQUIRE. AND IT WAS SOMEWHERE 80 TO 100,000 WORTH OF GUESSTIMATES WHAT IT WOULD COST. SINCE WE ARE NO LONGER NEEDING THAT DIRECT COMPARISON ANYMORE, THIS WOULD APPLY A SIMILAR AMOUNT OF FUNDING DIRECTLY FOR ENERGY REHABILITATION OF LOW INCOME HOMEOWNERS. IT DOES FOCUS ON HOMEOWNERS. AND LOW INCOME AND PEOPLE OF COLOR SPECIFICALLY WOULD BE KIND OF THE INTENTION BUT THROUGHOUT THE CITY THAT LOW INCOME HOMEOWNERS WOULD BE ABLE TO APPLY FOR THIS PROGRAM AND WE WOULD HELP. THERE ARE SOME EXISTING PROGRAMS ALONG THESE LINES ALREADY OCCURRING. I CAN GO THROUGH THIS. I GUESS I NEED HELP FROM STAFF. WE PROBABLY SHOULD READ THE WHOLE THING OR WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO? I HAVE DESCRIBED IT IN PRETTY COMPLETE TERMS. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD. >> Coun. Davis: TO YOUR POINT WE ARE TALKING TO STAFF HERE. IT IS AVAILABLE ON LINE AND AVAILABLE IN THE PACKETS. YOU SUMMARIZED IT WELL. I DON'T TO READ IT INTO THE RECORD. IT IS AVAILABLE FOR US TO DISCUSS. >> Coun. Pena: IT IS ON THE SCREEN. >> Coun. Davis: WE MADE IT AVAILABLE ON THE SCREEN AS WELL. YOU MADE FLOOR AMENDMENT NO. 1. I SECONDED. >> Coun. Benton: I THINK THIS IS A WIN/WIN ACROSS THE BOARD, GETS US IN ALIGNMENT AND GIVES DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY A CHANCE TO LEARN THE NEW CODE ON THE SAME SCHEDULE AS THE STATE IS DOING. >> FLOOR AMENDMENT MOVED WITH A SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION. GOING ONCE, TWICE. >> Councilor Bassan: YES. >> Coun. Benton: YES. >> Coun. Borrego: YES. >> Coun. Gibson: YES. >> Coun. Harris: YES. >> Coun. Jones: YES. >> Coun. Pena: YES. >> Coun. Sena: YES. >> Coun. Davis: YES. AMENDMENT 1 PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >> Coun. Davis: THANK YOU. NEXT UP WAS COUNCILOR BASSAN ON THE QUESTION OF AMENDMENTS. YOU HAD SOME PROPOSED. I AM NOT SURE IF THOSE NEED TO BE MOVED NOW. I WANT TO GIVE YOU CHANCE. >> Councilor Bassan: I AM NOT GOING TO MOVE THESE AMENDMENTS. >> Coun. Davis: I BELIEVE YOUR DRAFT AMENDMENT MAY NOT BE NECESSARY. JUST CHECKING. WANTED TO BE SURE. I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER AMENDMENTS. SO COUNCILORS WE ARE BACK ON THE BILL AS AMENDED FOR DISCUSSION. >> Coun. Davis: BACK ON YOUR BILL AS AMENDED. >> Coun. Pena: IN CLOSING, URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >> Coun. Davis: THERE ARE NO COMMENTS WE'LL TAKE IT. >> Coun. Pena: URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >> Councilor Bassan: YES. >> Coun. Benton: YES. >> Coun. Borrego: YES. >> Coun. Gibson: YES. >> Coun. Harris: YES. >> Coun. Jones: YES. >> Coun. Pena: YES. Z. >> Coun. Sena: YES. >> Coun. Davis: YES. PASSES UNANIMOUSLY AS AMENDED. >> Coun. Davis: THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US IN CASE WE NEEDED YOU. I AM SORRY YOU SAT THROUGH THE WHOLE AMENDMENT BUT THE BILL PASSED. COUNCILORS BASSAN AND JONES. R-92. >> Councilor Bassan: GO AHEAD. >> Coun. Jones: THANK YOU. I WASN'T REALLY PREPARED FOR THIS. WE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE. IT IS TO PROVIDE 10 MILLION OF THE CARES MONEY TO PROVIDE FUNDING FOR SMALL BUSINESSES. WE WILL -- COUNCILOR ABOUT COUK TO YOU ABOUT HOW WE INTEND TO DO IT. WE HAVE HAD HARD TIMES AND SMALL BUSINESSES ARE HIT HARD. THERE ARE ANY NUMBER OF THEM WHO HAVE NO PLACE TO LOOK FOR HELP. THIS IS WHAT CARES MONEY IS MEANT FOR AND WE CAN POTENTIALLY SAFE HUNDREDS, IF NOT MORE JOBS. I AM GOING TO LET COUNCILOR ELABORATE ON THAT. AND HOPE YOU WILL UNDERSTAND THE NEED FOR THIS TYPE OF LEGISLATION. >> Coun. Davis: FOR THE RECORD WE ARE GOING TO TAKE THAT AS YOUR MOTION FOR R-92. I BET THAT COUNCILOR BASSAN WILL SECOND IN HER COMMENT. >> Councilor Bassan: I WILL SECOND THAT. WE GOT MONEY FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, 150 MILLION AND IT IS TO PROVIDE RELIEF FOR ALBUQUERQUE. RIGHT NOW ALBUQUERQUE IS HURTING. WE HAVE A WAY TO GO AHEAD AND WE HAD OVER 1400 APPLICANTS FOR THE MAYOR'S MICRO GRANT AND WE WEREN'T ABLE TO SATISFY ALL OF THOSE APPLICANTS AND HELP EVEN THEM AND THEN IT IS JUST CONTINUING TO SNOW BALL AND GET LARGER. WE ARE ALREADY CONCERNED ABOUT GROSS RECEIPTS TAX AND WHERE THE MONEY COMES FROM FOR FY21 AND '22. IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE DO WHAT WE CAN RIGHT NOW BEFORE DECEMBER 30TH WHEN WE HAVE TO SPEND THE CARES MONEY AND HELP OUT THE PEOPLE THAT NEED IT MOST WHICH ARE THE OWNERS, EMPLOYEES, PATRONS, THIS IS GOING TO BE HOW WE CAN CONTINUE TO SUPPORT AND STIMULATE OUR ECONOMY. IT IS IMPORTANT TO HELP NOT ONLY THE BUSINESSES THAT ARE -- IT IS 50 OR LESS AS AND WE DO HAVE AMENDMENT WE WOULD LIKE TO MOVE, IF I MAY. SO, I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE AMENDMENT 1 FOR R-20-92. PAGE 3, AFTER LINE 19 ADD FOLLOWING. BUSINESS AWARDED GRANTS FROM THE STATE OF NEW MEXICO OR BERNALILLO COUNTY DUE TO THE FINANCIAL HARDSHIP RELATED TO COVID-19 ARE ELIGIBLE TO OBTAIN A GRANT FROM THE CITY. AGGREGATE AMOUNT MAY NOT EXCEED 10,000 IN TOTAL FROM THE STATE, BERNALILLO COUNTY AND THE CITY. >> Coun. Jones: SECOND. >> Councilor Bassan: WE DID THIS BECAUSE TALKING TO THE ADMINISTRATION OF THE CITY AND TALKING AMONG OURSELVES HERE, SOME PEOPLE HAVE QUALIFIED FOR GRANTS, SOME PEOPLE HAVE ALREADY RECEIVED MONEY, BUT SOME OF THEM IT COULD HAVE BEEN AS LITTLE AS 500. WE ORIGINALLY WERE SAYING IF YOU ALREADY RECEIVED A GRANT LET'S SHARE THE WEALTH AND MAKE SURE EVERYONE ELSE THAT HASN'T RECEIVED A GRANT CAN OBTAIN THE POTENTIALLY FUND THROUGH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND RESOLUTION. HOWEVER, $500 MIGHT NOT BE THE SAME AS 10,000 TO THESE BUSINESSES. WE DID IDECIDED IT COULD BE AGGREGATE AMOUNT. LET'S SAY SOME BUSINESS GOT 5,000 AT ONE POINT FROM THE STATE OR BERNALILLO COUNTY OR EVEN THE CITY IN ONE OF THE OTHER GRANTS WE OFFERED, WE WOULD BE WILLING TO HAVE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT LOOK AT THEIR APPLICATION AND DOING THE SAME METRICS FOR EVERYTHING ELSE THAT IS GOING TO DETERMINE WHO GETS THESE, THEY CAN EVEN GET UP TO ANOTHER 5,000. THAT WAY WE CAN MAKE SURE IT IS FAIR AND BROAD REACHING FOR AS MANY BUSINESSES IN THE CITY AS POSSIBLE. >> Coun. Davis: DISCUSSION ON THE FLOOR IS FLOOR AMENDMENT NO. 1. ANY DISCUSSION ON FLOOR AMENDMENT NO. 1 AS DISPLAYED ON THE SCREEN? >> SEEING NONE, MS. ORTEGA. >> Councilor Bassan: YES. >> Coun. Benton: YES. >> Coun. Borrego: YES. >> Coun. Gibson: YES. >> Coun. Harris: YES. Z. >> Coun. Jones: YES. >> Coun. Pena: YES. >> Coun. Sena: YES. Z. >> Coun. Davis: YES. >> AMENDMENT ONE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >> Coun. Davis: BACK ON THE BILL. OPEN THE FLOOR TO DISCUSSION. IF THE SPONSORS HAVE FILING ELSE TO EXPLAIN OTHERWISE OPEN IT UP. I SEE MYSELF AND COUNCILOR BORREGO. START WITH COUNCILOR BORREGO. >> Coun. Borrego: YES. I UNDERSTOOD THAT THERE WAS SOME CONCERN FROM ADMINISTRATION REGARDING THE AMOUNT BECAUSE THERE WERE SOME OTHER I GUESS COMMITMENTS FOR SOME OF THIS MONEY. AND SO MOVING FORWARD I WONDERED IF THE SPONSORS HAD A DISCUSSION OR MAYBE HEAR FROM ADMINISTRATION REGARDING THAT. >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, WE DON'T HAVE ANY CONCERNS. WE JUST WANT TO CLARITY OR DIRECTION AS TO FROM WHERE YOU WITNESS TO FUND THIS BILL. SO, 150 MILLION WE HAVE EARMARKED MAJORITY OF THAT FOR THE PAYROLL AND APPROXIMATELY 30 MILLION IS EARMARKED FOR PROJECTS WHICH ARE IN DIRECT RESPONSE TO COVID-19. THOSE PROJECTS ARE THE NON-PAYROLL ITEMS BUT DIRECTLY RELATED TO COVID-19. SO THAT IS THERE AND THEN WE DO HAVE 40 MILLIONS IN CONTINGENCY ABOVE AND BEYOND THE REQUIRED FUND BALANCE AT END OF FISCAL YEAR '21, SO, THERE IS NO CONCERN BUT IT IS JUST WHERE DO YOU WANT TO, YOU KNOW, FUND THIS FROM? THAT IS ALL WE WOULD LIKE TO WORK WITH THE COUNCIL STAFF. IT IS AT WILL OF THE COUNCIL WHETHER YOU WANT TO LOOK AT THIS PROJECT AND USE THESE GRANTS OR USE STRAIGHT UP MONEY FROM THE CONTINGENCY. IT IS YOUR BILL. >> Coun. Borrego: CAN I ASK A FOLLOW-UP QUESTION. SO, IF I HAVE SOME DEFICIENCIES THAT I WAS LOOKING AT FOR MY OWN IS THERE STILL FUNDING AVAILABLE IF I CAME TO YOU WITH THOSE REQUESTS? >> IS A MENTIONED BEFORE, THE 150 MILLION IS ALREADY EARMARKED. I AM NOT TOO SURE CAN YOU CAN R ME. IT IS YOUR BILL AND YOU MAY WANT TO LOOK IT UP WHAT ARE THE PROPER SETSES OR PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE. AND IF YOU WANT TO WORK ON THOSE OR MAYBE JUST USE THE MONEY FROM GENERAL FUND. IT IS YOUR WILL. AND YOUR QUESTION WAS WHETHER WE HAVE SOME MONEY -- WE ARE SPENDING THEM RIGHT NOW. BUT, YOU KNOW, IT IS NOT COMPLETELY SPENT SO THE MONEY IS THERE, HOWEVER, IT IS EARMARKED. >> Coun. Borrego: THANK YOU. I'LL BE COMING TO YOU. THANK YOU. >> Coun. Davis: WE COULD HEAR HIM FINE. WE'LL SEE IF WE CAN SEE HIM IN BUDGET CONFERENCE ROOM. >> Coun. Davis: I THINK WE COULD HEAR YOU EARLIER. WE'LL TAKE YOU HERE AS WELL. WE CAN SEE YOU BETTER. >> Coun. Davis: YOU AND I HAD A CHANCE TO TALK ABOUT THIS EARLIER TODAY AND JUST SORT OF DEMYSTIFY HOW WE HAD GOTTEN HERE. I WANT TO OUTLINE WHAT I UNDERSTOOD, WHEN WE SAY THERE IS MONEY AVAILABLE IT IS A QUESTION OF SORT OF PRIORITIES. I WANT TO BE SURE THAT I UNDERSTAND HOW WE ARE COMMUNICATING THAT. SO, AS WE HAD 150 MILLION IN FEDERAL COVID-19 RELATED FUNNELED AVAILABLE THAT THE COUNCIL APPROPRIATED IN R-34 EARLIER THIS YEAR. CAN YOU WALK ME THROUGH HOW WE HAVE DRAWN THAT DOWN? I KNOW THERE IS ABOUT 71 MILLION ALLOCATED FOR PAYROLL. THERE IS ANOTHER CHUNK FOR ABOUT 33 MILLION FOR PROJECTS. EXPLAIN TO ME HOW WE HAVE THE 150 MILLION THAT IS ALLOCATED SO FAR IN JUST THOSE BIG BUCKETS. >> SO, FOR SIMPLICITY, I DON'T WANT TO CONFUSE YOU WITH FY20 AND '21, BECAUSE, THE TIME LINE FOR COVID-19 19 MONEY IS BASICALLY ACROSS OVER FROM FY20 TO 21. SO, BASICALLY WE HAVE TO SPEND ENTIRE MONEY BY ENDS OF DECEMBER 2020. THAT SAID, IN FISCAL YEAR '20 WE APPROXIMATELY THOUGHT WE WOULD USE 55 MILLION. THEN, WE HAD USED ALL THE MONEY WHICH WAS ALLOCATED FOR THE PAYROLL IN FY 20, WE WERE ABLE TO MOVE THAT THROUGH GENERAL ENTRY AND WE USED THAT MONEY. ALL THE PROJECTS, EVEN THOUGH SOME OF THE PROJECTS WE THOUGHT THAT WE WOULD BE DONE WITH IN FY 20, THERE WAS NO HARD AND FAST LINE ON THAT BECAUSE CAN YOU USE THAT MONEY ALL THE WAY UP TO DECEMBER IN 2020 AND ALSO ALL THIS 150 MILLION-DOLLAR DID NOT GO THROUGH OPERATING BUDGET. IT WAS BASICALLY THROUGH FUND 265 WHICH IS GRANT MONEY. SO, OUT OF 150 OVERALL, APPROXIMATELY 119 MILLION-DOLLARS IS GOING TO BE USED FOR PAYROLL. OFF THAT, 71 MILLION WOULD BE USED IN FY '21 BY DECEMBER 30TH. AND THAT IS ESTIMATE. WE HAVE IDENTIFIED AND THAT PORTION IS THE EASIEST WAY TO USE THAT MONEY BECAUSE THE PAYROLL IS SOMETHING ALREADY IN PLACE AND IS JUST A MATTER OF ALLOCATING THAT PAYROLL TO FUND 265. SO, THAT IS EASY PORTION OF OVERALL AND THEN 50 MILLION. THE REMAINING ROUGHLY 32 MILLION ARE PROJECTS WHICH INCLUDES ONE OF THE PROJECTS JUST FOR EXAMPLE IS GRANTS TO NONPROFITS, THEN FIFTH00,000 MICRO -- 500,000 AND MICRO LOANS AND OTHER PROJECTS WHICH TOTALS UP TO 32 MILLION. THOSE ARE LISTED IN THE BUDGET BOOKS WHICH YOU RECEIVED LAST WEEK. IT IS ON PAGE 175 AND 176. THOSE PROJECTS ARE LIST THERE HAD BY FISCAL YEAR, BUT I WOULD IGNORE FISCAL YEAR. SO, THAT IS THERE AND THEN WE ALSO SENT EMAIL TO COUNCIL STAFF, I BELIEVE, THAT WAS ON SEPTEMBER 4, WITH FURTHER DETAILS ON THIS PROJECT AND IT KIND OF SEPARATED THE PAYROLL AND NON-PAYROLL ITEMS. THE ONE IN THE BUDGET BOOK IT HAS A DIFFERENT CATEGORY. IT HAS FOUR DIFFERENT CATEGORIES, ECONOMIC RECOVERY, EMERGENCY AND PUBLIC HEALTH RESPONSE, PROVIDING ESSENTIAL CITY SERVICES AND SUPPORTING FAMILIES AND VULNERABLE POPULATION. ALL THIS FOUR CATEGORIES HAVE ITEMS WHICH ARE PAYROLL RELATED ALSO AND NON-PAYROLL RELATED. SO, I THINK BETWEEN THIS DOCUMENT AND THE EMAIL THAT WE SENT TO THE STAFF, IT IS VERY EASY TO FIGURE OUT WHAT ARE THE PROJECTS AND AS I MENTIONED BEFORE -- >> Coun. Davis: CAN I INTERRUPT YOU. WE HAVE A COPY OF THAT PROPOSED PROJECTS LIST. CAN WE SHARE THAT. I THINK THAT WILL MAKE THIS PROCESSESSIER. I DON'T THINK IT HAS BEEN SHARED WITH ALL COUNCILORS. WOULD THAT BE OKAY. I AM GOING TO ASK OUR STAFF, SO, THIS IS THE SPREAD SHEET OF THE PROJECTS THAT THE ADMINISTRATION SHARED WITH OUR STAFF LAST WEEK. DIFFERENT COLORS THERE, SO THE BROWN, UGLY ORANGE HIGHLIGHTS ARE PROJECTS THAT COULD BE PAID FOR EXAMPLE OUT OF GENERAL FUND DOLLARS OR CARES DOLLARS RIGHT? >> IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING ADMINISTRATION PROPOSED IN ORDER TO DRAW DOWN 150 BY THE ENDS OF THE YEAR THESE ARE THE EXPENSES ADMINISTRATION WANTS TO USE OF CARES ACT MONEY AND THAT WOULD DAY US DOWN TO ESSENTIALLY ZERO. >> THAT IS RIGHT AND THESE EXPENSINGS CAN BE DIRECTLY CONSIDERED TO BE IN RESPONSE TO COVID-19. WE HAVE RUN THESE ITEMS THROUGH OUR CONSULTANT AND THEY HAVE AGREED WITH IT THAT THESE ARE IN RESPONSE TO THE COVID-19. >> Coun. Davis: LET ME GET TO MY POINT QUICKLY. THISTLE MILLION IN PROPOSED PROJECTS IN ADDITION TO PAYROLL AND OTHERS. IF WE SPEND ALL THIS AND THIS IS MAYOR'S PROPOSAL, COUNCIL HAS NOT SPECIFICALLY PASSED LEGISLATION WITH THIS LIST. THIS IS WHAT ADMINISTRATION BELIEVES IS ALLOWABLE UNDER R34 SO IF THEY DO THAT THERE WILL NOT BE 10 MILLION IN CARES MONEY ELIGIBLE FOR THE SMALL BUSINESS GRANTS AS PROPOSED. SO, IN ORDER TO DO THE SMALL BUSINESS GRANTS AND ALL OF THE MAYOR'S PROPOSED PROJECTS OR ADMINISTRATION'S PROPOSED PROJECTS WE WOULD HAVE TO PAY FOR THE SMALL BUSINESS GRANT OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND. IS THAT RIGHT OR WE WOULD HAVE TO CUT 10 MILLION FROM THE MAYOR'S PROPOSED SPENDING IN CARES TO ALLOW TO US SPEND 10 MILLION ON SMALL BUSINESS GRANTS. WE CAN'T SPEND -- THERE IS NOT 10 MILLION IN CARES DOLLARS AVAILABLE FOR NEW SMALL BUSINESS GRANTS; IS THAT RIGHT. >> YES, YOUR RIGHT. >> Coun. Davis: I WANT TO MAKE POINT HERE AND YIELD THE FLOOR TO OTHERS. IT HAS BEEN CONFUSING BECAUSE OF THE WAY THIS CARES ACT PROCESS HAS GONE. YOU AND I HAD A CHANCE TO TALK ABOUT THIS AND MS. YARA AND FINANCIAL STAFF HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS. WHEN COUNCIL PASSED R-34 WE ADDED SPECIFIC LANGUAGE EXCEPT TO REIMBURSE FOR DIRECT COVID-19 EXPENSES. I THINK THERE IS SOME DISAGREEMENT BETWEEN OR MAYBE DIFFERENT INTERPRETATION BETWEEN FINANCE AND STAFF AND THE WAY SOME OF THE CITY COUNCIL MIGHT HAVE INTENDED IT. IN OTHER WORDS I THINK SOME OF THE INITIAL INTENT IN THAT CONVERSATION WAS THAT IT WAS OKAY TO USE FOR EXAMPLE FOR PAYROLL. THAT IS A REQUIRED TO DO. IN OTHER PLACES THAT COUNCIL HAS SPECIFICALLY DIRECTED THAT LIKE THE SMALL BUSINESS GRANTS OR PPE GRANTS, COULD BE ALLOCATED AND THOSE COULD BE INDIRECT EXPENSES. I TOTALLY AGREE WITH THAT. PERHAPS THIS 10 MILLION TONIGHT COULD BE DEFERRED FOR TWO WEEKS BECAUSE THE COUNCIL -- I THINK THE COUNCIL NEEDS TO MAKE A DECISION ABOUT WHICH OF THESE PROJECTS WE WANT TO FUND AND WHICH PROJECTS WE DON'T. THAT MIGHT CHANGE WHAT DOLLARS AVAILABLE. IF WE THINK WE NEED TO PUT 10,000 OUT IN CARES MONEY WE HAVE TO CUT 10 MILLION OF THE PROPOSED CARES SPENDING OR WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO ADJUST FY 21 WHATEVER IS LEFT IN THE BUDGET TO REDUCE THE GENERAL FUND SURPLUS THAT MIGHT BE NEEDED IN 21 AND 22 TO AVOID FURLOUGHS FOR EMPLOYEES. THAT IS WHY WE WERE PUTTING IT THERE. MY CONCERN IS IF WE DO THE 10 MILLION TONIGHT IT WITH HAVE TO COME OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND. OR 10 MILLION FROM CARES WOULD REQUIRE US TO DRAW DOWN THE GENERAL FUND SURPLUS BY 10 MILLION AND THAT IS A SIGNIFICANT THOUGHT OUR ABILITY TO KEEP EMPLOYEES GOING IN THE FUTURE. THAT IS MY CONCERN. NOT THAT I DON'T SUPPORT IT. I DO THINK WE HAVE THE MONEY TO DO BOTH. I JUST THINK WE SHOULD DEFER FOR TWO WEEKS AND COUNCIL COULD MAKE 8 POINT TO AMEND BILLS WITH ALL REMAINING CARES ACT ALLOCATIONS TO MAKE IT CLEAR WHAT THEY SUPPORT AND DON'T SUPPORT. I WANT TO LET YOU FINISH. I THINK THAT TO ME MAKES IT CLEARER. IF YOU WANT TO RESPOND. >> I AM FINE WITH EITHER. I THINK THEY WOULD BOTH EVENTUALLY GET 10 MILLION FOR SMALL BUSINESSES. IT IS OUR WILL. I THINK THERE WAS A CONCERN ABOUT USING THE GENERAL FUND MONEY FOR THIS 10 MILLION GRANT AND WE HAVE SPOKEN TO OUR LEGAL DEPARTMENT AND CONSIDERING THE EXTRAORDINARY CIRCUMSTANCES, THAT WE HAVE, BECAUSE OF THE COVID-19 SITUATION, IT CAN BE ARGUED THAT WE CAN USE THAT MONEY FOR GRANT BECAUSE THE QUESTION WAS ABOUT THE ISSUE AND ATTORNEYS BELIEVE WE CAN ARGUE THAT THERE IS SOMETHING WE WILL GET IN RETURN WHICH IS THAT, YOU KNOW, SOME JOBS WILL BE SAVED AT THE BUSINESSES RECEIVING THE GRANT AND ALSO THEY WILL CONTINUE TO DID BUSINESS AND THAT MEANS THEY WILL CONTINUE TO GENERATE DEGREES RECEIPTS TAX. SO I BELIEVE THAT USING GENERAL FUND MONEY FOR THIS WILL NOT RAISE AN ISSUE AND WE HAVE ALLEN ON STAND-BY IF YOU HAVE A FURTHER QUESTION ON THAT ISSUE. >> Coun. Davis: THANK YOU SIR. >> Coun. Jones: I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY HOWEVER WE HAVE LOOKED AT THIS AND THERE ARE WAYS TO DO THIS. I WOULD LIKE TO ASK OUR FINANCIAL ADVISOR, MS. YARA, WHO HAS WORKED DEEPLY INTO THIS BUDGET AND HOW WE USE CARES MONEY WITH SMALL BUSINESSES. THERE IS SOME IMPORTANT THINGS LIKE WATER BOTTLE FILLING STATIONS, STUDY OF IMPACT OF COVID-19 ON COME VIOLENCE. D O MESTIC VIOLENCE. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT POTENTIAL OF SAVING HUNDREDS OF BUSINESSES IN OUR CITY. I THINK BEFORE WE GET HUNG UP ON THE BUDGET THAT HAS DETAILS IN THERE THAT MIGHT NOT BE QUITE AS NECESSARY, I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR MS. YARA TALK ABOUT WHAT WE SAW AND WHAT WE THINK WE CAN DO WITH THE BUDGET TO NOT HARM ANYONE. >> YARA: SO, I JUST WANT TO REITERATE TO SAY WHAT WAS SAID EARLIER, YOU HAVE A CHOICE TO MAKE HERE. FY 20 BUDGET IS PROPOSED TO THE COUNCIL IT DOES LEAVE SOME MONEY TO THE TABLE FOR THE GENERAL FUND. AVAILABLE GENERAL FUND BALANCE. PART OF THAT, ABOUT, I BELIEVE ALMOST 25 MILLION-DOLLARS OF THAT IS NONRECURRING MONEY. ANOTHER 14 MILLION IS RECURRING MONEY WHICH WOULD OF COURSE BE SAVED FOR EMPLOYEE SALARIES GOING FORWARD AS RECURRING DOES REQUIRE THAT WE KEEP THOSE EMPLOYEES ON FOR YEARS TO COME. THE OTHER OPTION OF COURSE IS THAT THE COUNCIL CAN USE CARES ACT MONEY TO SUPPORT LOCAL BUSINESSES. IT IS ALLOWED UNDER THE CARES ACT AS LONG AS WE ARE NOT HELPING BUSINESSES THAT HAVE MORE THAN, I BELIEVE, LIKE 500 EMPLOYEES, KIND OF CORPORATE LEVEL LIKE WALL MARKETS, MART,T CETERA. THE OTHER THING YOU NEED TO CONSIDER IS TIMING OF THESE PROGRAMS AND PROPOSED USES OF CARES MONEY. WE ONLY HAVE UNTIL DECEMBER 30TH TO EX EXPEND THE MONEY. COUNCILORS NEED TO DECIDE WHETHER IT IS MORE PRUDENT TO USE THIS MONEY TO HELP SMALL BUSINESSES PER THE BILL THAT IS IN FRONT OF YOU OR IS IT MORE PRUDENT TO USE CARES ACTS MONEY FOR SOME OF THE THINGS PROPOSED OR PRESENTED TO YOU HERE. I DID ALSO AS WAS MENTIONED, I WAS A LITTLE ABOUT IT CONCERNED ABOUT ANTI-DONATION ISSUES IF WE ARE USING THE GENERAL FUND MONEY AND NOT THE CARES ACTS MONEY. HOWEVER, I THINK THERE IS SOME PRECEDENT TO SAY WHEN MONEY IS COMMINGLED WITH GENERAL FUND, IT IS ALLOWABLE TO STILL USE THAT MONEY FOR WHAT THE GRANT INTENDED. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER SPECIFIC QUESTIONS. >> Councilor Bassan: I WANT TO GO BACK TO THE POINT OF TO CLARIFY FROM EVERYTHING THAT I HAVE BEEN TOLD MULTIPLE TIMES NOW BECAUSE I KEEP CIRCLING BACK TO DOUBLE CHECK IN REGARDS TO EVEN WHAT COUNCILOR BORREGO WAS ASKING ABOUT ORIGINALLY. AND WHAT WAS JUST DESCRIBED TO US AS WELL. I HAVE THE 150 MILLION. WE HAVE APPROXIMATELY 71 MILLION EARMARKED FOR PAYROLL. 33 MILLION EARMARKED FOR PROJECTS AND 40 MILLION EARMARKED FOR CONTINGENCY. THAT IS WRITTEN LIES WHAT I BELIEVE WE ARE TRYING TO GET AT IS CARES MONEY WE WANT TO USE THE CARES MONEY NOW. BECAUSE CARES MONEY WAS DESIGNED AND GIVEN TO US BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FOR PEOPLE IN NEED NOW. AND THOSE PEOPLE ARE THE BUSINESSES. WHICH ENCOMPASSES THE SAME EMPLOYEES THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WANTING TO SUPPORT AND NOT HAVE UNEMPLOYMENT RATES. I REALLY BELIEVE THAT EVEN IF IT IS CHALLENGING HELP DRIVING PEOPLE NOW WITH THE MONEY GIVEN TO US NOW IS A HIGHER PRIORITY AND THEN WE WILL WORK ON NEXT YEAR OR FY22 BUDGET AND WE'LL FIR YOU'RE IT OUT ADMINISTRATION HAS TOLD US THEY BELIEVE IF THIS IS THE WILL OF THE COUNCIL WE WILL MAKE IT WORK. SO I AM GOING TO TRY TO MAKE IT WORK AS WELL BUT PEOPLE ARE HURTING AND WE ARE ON A SHORT TIME LINE. I AM REALLY HESITANT TO DO ANY KIND OF DEFERRAL BECAUSE OF THE PROCESS AND I REALLY BELIEVE THESE BUSINESSES, THEY ARE ON THEIR LAST LEGS AND SOONER WE HELP THEM, SOONER WE CAN TRY TO MAKE SURE THEY STAY OPEN TO HELP AGAIN WITH GOES RECEIPTS TAX, TO HELP WITH EMPLOYEES, TO HELP ALL OF THAT SITUATION SO IT DOESN'T CONTINUE GETTING WORSE BAY THIS TIME NEXT YEAR. >> JUST A CORRECTION. YOUR RIGHT AT 71 MILLION IN PAYROLL, THAT IS FOR FY21. 33 MILLION -- 32 MILLION IN PROJECTS THEY ARE NOT JUST FY21 BUT SOME IN 20 AND SOME IN 21. THE REMAINING BALANCE IS NOT THE CONTINGENCY. REMAINING BALANCE IS 48 MILLION AND THAT IS ACTUALLY USED FOR THE PAYROLL UNTIL IF Y20. SO, WHAT WE DID IS IN FY20 WE ALREADY HAD BUDGETED PAYROLL FROM THE GENERAL FUND. THEN THE COVID-19 HIT AND THEN WE HAD THIS ISSUE WITH THE DECLINING REVENUE. WHAT WE DID IN FY 20 WE USED 48 MILLION OF THE COVID-19 MONEY TO FUND THE PAYROLL. AND THAT BASICALLY FREED UP SOME MONEY WHICH WAS ALREADY BUDGETED IN FY 22 GENERAL FUND AND ENDED UP NOT SPENDING IT. THAT ADDED TO SOME FUND BALANCE BECAUSE THE WAY YOU DESCRIBED THAT, YOU KNOW, WE PUT ASIDE 40 MILLION FROM RELIEF ACTS MONEY THAT IS NOT ALLOWED. WE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO USE THE MONEY AS A CONTINGENCY OR REVENUE REPLACEMENT DIRECTLY BUT YOU CAN USE IT FOR ALLOWABLE EXPENDITURES, ESPECIALLY IN PAYROLL EVEN IF IT WAS BUDGETED PREVIOUSLY YOU CAN USE COVID-19 AND THAT WAY YOU MAY BE ABLE TO FREE UP SOME MONEY. THAT IS HOW YOU HAVE THAT CONTINGENCY AND THAT CONTINGENCY WOULD BE ACTUALLY AT THE END OF THE FY21. THAT WOULD HELP US IN FY 22 BECAUSE THE WAY IT IS GOING ON RIGHT NOW THE REVENUES ARE NOT COMING UP AS WE EXPECTED. THERE IS A LOT OF UNCERTAINTY. WE SORT OF KNOW THAT THERE MAY NOT BE ANOTHER ROUND OF FEDERAL HELP SO WE JUST WANT TO BE PRUDENT AND PUT ASIDE 40 MILLION FOR FY22. BUT THAT MONEY CANNOT BE STRAIGHT APPROPRIATION FROM COVID-19. YOU HAVE TO USE IT FOR SOME OTHER THINGS AND THEN IT MAY FREE UP THE MONEY. SO THAT IS HOW WE ENDED UP WITH THAT 40 MILLION. I HOPE THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION. >> Councilor Bassan: SO I THINK THAT IS HELPFUL. IT HAS BEEN A CONCERN OF MINE THAT WE HAVE -- I HAVE BEEN UNDERSTANDING IT AS CONTINGENCY MONEY WHEN WE ARE SUPPOSED TO SPEND IT AS CARES. MY ONE, THEN I'LL TURN IT OVER -- I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT AS MUCH AS I WANTS TO PREVENT CITY FURLOUGHS, AS MUCH AS I THINK THAT IS SO IMPORTANT, I THINK THAT IT IS ALSO EQUALLY IMPORTANT TO HELP DO WHAT WE CAN FOR THE CITIZENS AND THE RESIDENTS HERE IN ALBUQUERQUE WHO HAVE SMALL BUSINESSES AND JOBS THAT MIGHT NOT BE THERE ANYMORE. 6 OF ONE AND HALF A DOZEN OF THE OTHER. I LOOK AT WHICH IS QUICKEST PRIORITY WE NEED TO ADJUST FOR SO THAT THE NEXT PRIORITY WE CAN START WORKING ON. ALTHOUGH DO I APPRECIATE HOW PRUDENT YOUR BEING. THANK YOU. >> Coun. Benton: I DO SUPPORT MOVING FORWARD ON THIS TONIGHT BUT ALSO WANT TO ADDRESS THE CONCERNS FROM THE LIST THAT WE JUST SAW. WE HAVE SEEN THAT LIST RECENTLY. JUST TO REMIND EVERYONE HERE ON THE COUNCIL, WE DID HAVE A PROPOSAL OF INFORMAL COMMITTEE THAT WOULD WORK BETWEEN COUNCIL AND ADMINISTRATION ON FEDERAL RELIEF MONEY. THAT BILL FAILED. AND AT THE TIME I THINK IT WAS STATED BY THE ADMINISTRATION, WELL, YOU KNOW, DURING THAT DISCUSSION, THAT THE COUNCIL HAS A ROLE IN THE USE OF THE CARES ACTS MONEY. AND, THAT IS OUR BUDGETARY ROLE. WITH REGARD TO WHERE WE GO FROM HERE, IF THIS WERE TO PASS TONIGHT, THERE ARE DEFINITELY AREAS WHERE I SEE THAT WE COULD BACKFILL THIS. I'LL JUST SAY ONE EXAMPLE. COUNCIL ITSELF KIND OF INCLUDING MYSELF, PULLED SOME NUMBERS KIND OF OUT OF ROUGH THIN AIR, BY AN IMPORTANT FEDERAL RELIEF FUND, TOWARDS, FOR INSTANCE, PPE EQUIPMENT, THAT IS A I MED TOWARDS EMPLOYERS AND BUSINESSES. LET'S SEE HOW MUCH OF THAT WE REALLY STILL ARE GOING TO BE NEEDING. THAT IS JUST ONE EXAMPLE. I HAD THE BILL ON, I THINK WE HAD A HALF A MILLION IN THERE FOR STREET CLOSURES FOR RECREATIONAL PURPOSES. MAYBE THIS IS MORE IMPORTANT. I THINK IT IS ARGUABLE. I THINK WE CAN HAVE THIS DISCUSSION AND CAN CONTINUE, NOT MUCH TIME, ON THE REST OF THE MONEY EITHER. DO I AGREE WITH THE SPONSORS THAT IF WE ARE BEHIND THIS BILL WE NEED TO GET THE MONEY ON THE STREET SOONER RATHER THAN LATER. >> Coun. Borrego: I THINK IT IS A GREAT IDEA TO DO AN INFUSION TO OUR SMALL BUSINESSES. THERE ARE OTHER AREAS THAT I AM CONCERNED ABOUT AS WELL. IF WE USE ALL OF THE MONEY, I MEAN, WOULD THE SPONSORS CONSIDER REDUCING THE AMOUNT A LITTLE BIT. THERE IS AREAS THAT I HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT WITH REGARD TO MY DISTRICT AND I MENTIONED SOME DEFICIENCIES EARLIER. ONE IS THE MAYOR'S INTERNET WIFI ACCESS. IN MY DISTRICT I THINK I ONLY HAVE ONE AREA AND I WAS WANTING TO EXPANDS SOME OF THAT. THE OTHER AREA I SEE A LITTLE BIT OF DEFICIENCY AND I AM HEARING MORE AND MORE ABOUT THIS IS YOUTHS THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, IN NEED OF SOME KIND OF ACTIVITY. I MEAN, WE JUST HAD A YOUNG MAN COMMIT SUICIDE DOWN SOUTH FROM BEING IN ISOLATION AND I UNDERSTAND THAT IT IS DIFFICULT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, OUR KIDS ARE OUR FUTURE AND I JUST WONDERED IF THE SPONSORS WOULD CONSIDER MAYBE A REDUCTION. 10 MILLION. I AGREE THAT WE NEED TO KEEP OUR BUSINESSES GOING. BUT THERE ARE OTHER THINGS THAT WE ARE KIND OF HARD PRESSED TO FIGURE OUT WHAT ARE OUR PRIORITIES. THERE IS SOME THINGS THAT ESPECIALLY LIKE KIDS THAT DON'T HAVE CONNECTION TO INTERNET. I MEAN TO GET THEIR SCHOOL WORK DONE. I MEAN, THERE IS OTHER THINGS. I KNOW COUNCILOR PENA HAD A BILL FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE BEING EVICTED. I THOUGHT THAT WAS NOT EVEN A DROP IN THE BUCKET FOR THOSE PEOPLE -- I MEAN -- WILL EVENTUALLY BECOME MORE HOMELESS ON THE STREETS. UNLESS THEY HAVE FAMILIES THAT CAN PUT THEM UP. SO, WE ARE BEING PUSHED IN A LOT OF DIRECTIONS BUT I JUST WONDERED AND MAYBE A DEFERRAL IS THE WAY TO GO. I MEAN, TWO WEEKS OR WE COULD EVEN -- I AM LOOKING AT COUNCILOR DAVIS. WE COULD HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING. >> Coun. Davis: FOR THE RECORD, NO, I DON'T THINK SO. WE HAVE HAD THREE MEETINGS IN THE LAST THREE WEEKS AND CLERK REMINDED ME WE HAVE THREE BIG BUDGET MEETINGS COMING FUN A WEEK OR SO. PERHAPS NOT BUT -- I AGREE. I DO THINK IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE DO THIS. I DON'T WANT TO SHORTCHANGE FUTURE FOR EMPLOYEES. I DO THINK AS COUNCILOR BORREGO MENTIONS, THERE ARE SOME OTHER PRIORITIES THAT NEED TO BE CONSIDERED. WE ARE AT A PLACE WHERE WE OUGHT TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO USE THE REST OF THE MONEY AVAILABLE. WE DISCUSSED AND I REACHED OUT AND STARTED WORKING WITH THE COURT AND COUNTY ON EVICTION PREVENTION. WHAT THAT WOULD COST. I DON'T SEE ISSUE WITH DEFERRING FOR 2 WEEKS. I WILL MAKE THE MOTION UNLESS WE FINISH DISCUSSION HERE BUT I THINK THAT IS IMPORTANT SO WE CAN LOOK AT THIS. AS COUNCILLOR BENTON MENTIONED IN LOOKING AT THAT LIST, I SEE THINGS THAT I DON'T THINK ARE NEEDED IN FY FUN, NEW AMBULANCE, NEW POLICE CONSIDERS. THINK THERE IS DEFINITELY NEXT -- IS IT MORE IMPORTANT TO BUY A NEW AMBULANCE OR IS IT MORE IMPORTANT TO HAVE THAT MONEY AVAILABLE FOR SMALL BUSINESSORS EMPLOYEES. THINK THESE ARE BIG QUESTIONS AND OTHER COUNCILORS HAVE OTHER PRIORITIES. THAT IS WHY I PREFER WE TAKE IT OFF FOR TWO WEEKS. I WON'T MAKE THAT MOTION UNTIL WE FINISH THAT DISCUSSION. >> Coun. Sena: I AM IN COMPLETE SUPPORT OF SUPPORTING OUR BUSINESSES BECAUSE I DO BELIEVE THEY DO NEED THIS ASSISTANCE. I DO HAVE SOME HESITATION BECAUSE, NOW WE ARE SAYING, YOU KNOW, IT IS THIS OR THIS. WITHOUT LOOKING AT EITHER OF THEM, ESPECIALLY IN THE PROCESS, BECAUSE I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE SAYING THIS WOULD BE AWARDED TO THOSE THAT PEOPLE STANDING TEXASLY DIDN'T POTENTIALLY DIDN'T GET THE FIRST ROUND. ARE WE DOING PROPER OUTREACH. THAT CAN TAKE QUITE SOME TIME ESPECIALLY JUST IN MY OWN EXPERIENCE OF TRANSLATING DOCUMENTS. IT DOES TAKE A WHILE SO I AM CURIOUS ABOUT THAT PROCESS WHAT OUTREACH WOULD LOOK LIKE GOING INTO DECEMBER. IT IS RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER. YOU KNOW, I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO TAKE A STAB AND MAYBE POSSIBLY HAVE THIS DEFERRAL JUST BECAUSE HAVING THIS CONVERSATION AND EVALUATING WHAT PROJECTS WE CAN EVALUATE BECAUSE I DON'T LIKE THE NOTION THAT SOME OF THESE PROGRAMS ARE FOR WORKING FAMILIES OR ARE WE SUPPORTING SMALL BUSINESS. I THINK WE CAN DO BOTH. BUT I THINK THAT IT IS HARD TO KNOW WITHOUT SEEING THE NUMBERS AND KIND OF HAVING THAT DISCUSSION AS TO WHAT CAN WE BE SUPPORTING OR WHAT CAN WE KICK DOWN THE CAN AND THINK ABOUT IT ANOTHER TIME. THINKING ABOUT THE PROCESS OF TIME LINE, WHETHER IT IS CARES OR GENERAL FUND, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE SPEND TO DECEMBER AND THOSE OUTREACH TO THOSE THAT DIDN'T GET RESIDENTIAL PEGSLY THOSE REJECTED FOR PPP PROGRAM. SOME OF THESE BUSINESSES OPERATE CASH ONLY AND DIDN'T HAVE AL BANK ACCOUNT TO BEGIN THIS. THIS SAYS YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE BANK ACCOUNT. WE HAVE BEEN TRYING TO DO OUTREACH SAYING THIS IS WHAT YOU SHOULD BE DOING. EXAMPLES LIKE THAT AND KNOWING WHAT PROGRAMS ARE AVAILABLE TO THEM. FOR THE OUTREACH I AM JUST CURIOUS WHAT THAT PROCESS WOULD LOOK LIKE, YOU KNOW, IS THERE FUNDING ALLOCATED FROM THIS THAT WOULD GO TOWARDS OUTREACH FOR OUR COMMUNITIES OF COLOR OWNED BUSINESSES TRANSLATING DOCUMENTS AND REALLY DOING OUTREACH TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE IS INCLUDED. >> Coun. Davis: YOU APPEAR TO BE THE LAST 1 WITH A COMMENT. USE THIS AS RESPONSE TO CLOSE. >> Coun. Jones: I UNDERSTAND EVERYONE'S CONCERN. THIS IS BIG STUFF WE ARE TALKING ABOUT. BUT, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT HELPING SMALL BUSINESSES BUT NOT GIVING BUSINESS PEOPLE MONEY. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT RESULT OF THAT IS KEEPING HOW MANY -- WHAT IS THE MULTIPLIER OF THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE AND FAMILIES THAT WE ARE KEEPING EMPLOYED AND FED AND CLOTHESSED AND HOUSED. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT A METHOD TO TAKE CARE OF ALL THESE THINGS THAT WE WANT TO DO BY HELPING INDIVIDUAL SMALL BUSINESSES. THERE IS REALLY GOOD CRITERIA FOR DOING THIS. THEY DON'T GET TO GET OTHER GRANTS. VERY FEW OF THESE SMALL BUSINESSES ARE OUT OF STATE OR OUT OF TOWN. THEY EMPLOY OUR LOCAL PEOPLE, OUR TEENAGERS, OUR MOTHERS, PEOPLE WHO HAVE CHILDREN AT HOME. THEY EMPLOY THE PEOPLE WHO WON'T BE ABLE TO PAY THEIR RENT, THEY WON'T BE ABLE TO PAY THEIR UTILITIES. THEY WON'T BE ABLE TO BUY GROCERIES. I THINK WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT STATISTICALLY, EITHER YOU TAKE THE MONEY OUT OF THE BUDGET OR CARES ACT. WE NEED TO TAKE THE MONEY USED FOR POLICE CARS AND USE IT FOR THIS. IT IS A MATTER OF WHAT POT DO WE TAKE IT OUT OF. IN MY OPINION WHAT REALLY COUNT HERE IS WHICH POT CAN WE USE FIRST TO GET THIS THING GOING. AND TO MAKE IT WORK AND TO SAVE ALL OF THOSE PEOPLE THAT WE TRULY CAN GET GIVE ANOTHER SIX MONTHS OR NINE MONTHS, HOWEVER LONG IT TAKES TO KEEP PEOPLE EMPLOYED. I DON'T THINK THIS SHOULD BE ARGUED OVER WHICH POCKET IT COMES OUT OF, WHICH ONE IS QUICKER AND WHICH HAS THE MONEY AND WE CAN MOVE THE MONEY AROUND. STEPHANIE HAS LOOKED AT THIS INSIDE AND OUT. AND WE CAN DO THIS OUT OF THE CARES MONEY AND DO IT MUCH QUICKER AND WE ALREADY HAVE THE PROGRAM SET UP HOW TO DO IT, WE ALREADY HELPED. THE QUESTIONS THAT WE NEED TO ASK AND THE I'S WE HAVE TO DOT AND T'S CROSS, THIS IS A NOW WE NEED IT, OUR CITY NEEDS IT, THE PEOPLE NEED IT NOW. I AM VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT THIS BECAUSE WE CAN HELP THE PEOPLE THAT WE NEED TO HELP THE MOST. UNFORTUNATELY PEOPLE LOOK AT THIS AND WE ARE NOT JUST HELPING JUST PEOPLE WHO ARE RUNNING THE BUSINESSES, WE ARE HELPING ALL OF THE PEOPLE WHO COME DOWN FROM THEM AND ALL THE PEOPLE THAT DEPEND ON THAT JOBS. I WOULD CERTAINLY URGE THAT WE VOTE FOR THIS TONIGHT AND WE KEEP IT AS THE CARES MONEY AND WORK WITH COUNCIL WHO HAVE FINAL SAY, WORK WITH COUNCIL ON HOW WE GET THE BUDGET WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE ALSO. WE CAN DO BOTH OF THESE THINGS. I HAVE A PASSION FOR THIS AND THE HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE WE CAN HELP WITH THIS KIND OF MONEY. THANK YOU. >> Coun. Davis: I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE DEFER THIS MATTER UNTIL OCTOBER 5 MEETING. THAT GIVES US TIME IN ORDER FOR US TO FACILITATE THIS AND HOW MUCH MONEY SHOULD GO TO WHICH ALLOCATIONS AND WHAT MONEY SHOULD BE HELD IN RESERVE IN THE FUTURE AND PERHAPS WE WRITE THAT LEGISLATION TO PUT THAT MONEY IN RESERVE SO THAT ADMINISTRATION AND COUNCIL WON'T SPEND IT UNTIL WE NEED IT. I MAKE A MOTION TO DEFER TO THE FIFTH. >> Coun. Borrego: SECOND. >> Coun. Davis: ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION TO DEFER. >> Councilor Bassan: I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT WE HAVE REALLY HAD EXTENSIVE MEETINGS, CONVERSATIONS. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I KNOW THAT THIS IS A MOTION FOR DEFERRAL BUT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN DEFERRED, ALREADY SOMETHING TAKING LONGER. WE CAN KEEP PICKING YOU TO AT IT BUT IT IS GOING TO GET PICKED APART. I DON'T THINK THAT IS WHAT OUR CITY NEEDS RIGHT NOW. I AM NOT IN SUPPORT OF THE DEFERRAL. >> Coun. Davis: ANY OTHER DISCUSSION. I'LL ASK THE CLERK TO CALL THE VOTE ON THE MOTION FOR DEFERRAL. >> Councilor Bassan: NO. >> Coun. Benton: NO. >> Coun. Borrego: YES. >> Coun. Gibson: NO. >> Coun. Harris: NO. >> Coun. Jones: NO. >> Coun. Pena: YES. >> Coun. Sena: YES. >> Coun. Davis: YES. FACILITIES ON A 4-5 VOTE. BACK ON YOUR >> Coun. Davis: ANYTHING FURTHER FROM ADMINISTRATION. >> THANK YOU, I JUST WANTED TO CHIME IN TO SAY THAT AS A GENERAL PRINCIPLE OF COURSE WE SUPPORT THE NOTION OF SUPPORTING THESE SMALL BUSINESSES IN ALL THE WAYS THEY NEED. ONE OPTION THAT COUNCIL MIGHT CONSIDER IS JUST AMENDING TO REMOVE THE SPECIFIC SOURCE OF FUND FROM YOUR BILL RIGHT NOW AND THAT WAY THAT WOULD GIVE US ALL THE FLEXIBILITY TO WORK WHETHER IT COMES THROUGH A MIX OF GENERAL FUND OR CARES BUT CERTAINLY THAT IS UP TO YOU. I THINK AT THE ENDS OF THE DAY I JUST WANTED TO EXPRESSION WE WILL GET IT DONE, MAKE THE WORK AND IT IS PART OF THAT LARGER BALANCING PICTURE AS ONE OF YOU MENTIONED BUT WE SUPPORT OF COURSE OUR SMALL BUSINESSES AND GETTING AS MUCH RELIEF TO THEM AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. >> Coun. Davis: ANY OTHER DISCUSSION. I GO BACK TO COUNCILOR JONES TO CLOSE. >> Coun. Jones: I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE COUNCILOR BASSAN CLOSE. I GAVE YOU ALL THE PASSION I HAVE ABOUT THIS BUT YOU COULD DO IT AGAIN IF YOU WANT. >> Councilor Bassan: I WANT TO CIRCLE BACK TO JUST REMINDER OF THE LAST CONVERSATION. 10 MILLION WAS NOT PICKED RANDOMLY BECAUSE IT WAS CIRCULAR AND GOLDEN IN THAT WAY. IT WAS PICKED BECAUSE OF THE NUMBER OF APPLICANTS THAT DID NOT RECEIVE ANYTHING FROM THE PREVIOUS DISTRIBUTION. SO, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WORKED WITH SOME OF COUNCIL STAFF AND WE FIGURED OUT AND I MEAN THEY HAVE DUG DEEP I THINK AND I DON'T BELIEVE THIS IS GOING TO BE A ONE OR THE OTHER. I BELIEVE FROM EVERYTHING THAT HAS BEEN DESCRIBED TO ME AND I AM SURE THEY WILL BE SO HAPPY TO SPEND TIME EXPLAINING IT ALL MORE IF NECESSARY BUT AT THE SAME TIME I BELIEVE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THE CARES MONEY, WE HAVE. WE HAVE IT, I DON'T THINK ITEMS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO SAY, LET'S REDUCE THE AMOUNT. I DON'T THINK IT IS TO SAY IF WE DO THIS, THEN WE ARE TANNED OUT ALL THE WAY AN CARES. I DON'T BELIEVE THAT IS ANYTHING THAT I HAVE EVER HEARD FROM ANY PARTIES WHETHER FROM COUNCILOR FROM THE CITY ADMINISTRATION. SO, I REALLY DO URGE YOUR SUPPORT. I THINK WE ARE GOING TO HELP A LOT OF PEOPLE AND I ALWAYS SAY URGE YOUR SUPPORT AND THEN I KEEP GOING. THE ONE OTHER THING IS DO I BELIEVE BECAUSE OF THAT RATIONALE AND ONE OTHER THING THAT GOT BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION, WHY WE DIDN'T REINVENT THE WHEEL WITH APPLICATION PROCESS. WE KEPT IT SIMILAR TO THE MICRO GRANT PROCESS AND MAKE EDITS. WE WANT TO KEEP IT STREAMLINED, KEEP IT VERY NARROW IN THAT WAY SO THAT WE'RE NOT SITTING HERE TRYING TO DO UNNECESSARILY MORE WORK THAN WE OTHERWISE SHOULD. I THINK WE CAN GET IT DONE AND IT IS GOOD FOR OUR CITY. I REALLY DO URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >> Councilor Bassan: YES. >> Coun. Benton: YES. >> Coun. Borrego: YES. >> Coun. Gibson: YES. >> Coun. Harris: YES. >> Coun. Jones: YES. >> Coun. Pena: YES. >> Coun. Sena: YES. >> Coun. Davis: YES. PASSES UNANIMOUSLY AS AMENDED. >> Coun. Davis: NICE JOB. R-96. >> Coun. Benton: THANK YOU. GET TO THE RIGHT SCREEN HERE. I'LL MOVE DO PASS ON R-96 AMENDING THE ADOPTED CAPITAL IMPLEMENTATION PROGRAM OF THE CITY BY APPROVING NEW PROJECTS SUPPLEMENTING CURRENT APPROPRIATIONS AND CHANGING SCOPE OF EXISTING PROJECTS. >> Councilor Bassan: SECOND. >> Coun. Benton: THANK YOU. I'LL JUST ASK MS. YARA TO EXPLAIN THE BILL. >> YARA: THIS IS OUR CIP CLEAN-UP BILL. ONE OF TWO SEMI ANNUAL BILLS THAT WE GET TO JUST SUPPLEMENT CAPITAL FUNDING AND DO SOME CHANGES. THIS BILL AS PROPOSED IS JUST GOING TO APPROPRIATE ALL OF THE STATE CAPITAL OUTLAY GRANTS THAT WERE RECEIVED THIS YEAR. AS WELL AS IMPACT FEES, BIOPARK CAPITAL TAX, MISCELLANEOUS REVENUES AND INTEREST EARNED SINCE THE LAST TIME WE CLEANED UP THIS BILL. THERE ARE ONLY A FEW SMALL NEW PROJECTS HERE. ONE OF THEM HAS TO DO WITH NEW BIKE PROGRAM THAT IS FUNDED BY THE NEW MEXICO DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION. $FOR 450,000. THE OTHER IS MINE OR PROJECT TRANSFERS. SOMETIMES THERE ARE SMALL AMOUNTS OF MONEY LEFT IN PROJECTS THAT CAN'T BE USED ANYMORE AND DMD IS ASKING COUNCIL TO CHANGE THOSE AROUND SO THEY CAN BE USED FOR OTHER NEEDED ITEMS. >> Coun. Davis: I BELIEVE YOU HAVE AT LEAST ONE AMENDMENT AND AMENDMENTS FROM OTHER COUNCILORS. >> Coun. Benton: PUTTING ME ON THE SPOT. >> Coun. Davis: MS. YARA CAN EXPLAIN THE AMENDMENT. >> Coun. Benton: IF SHE WOULD TACKLE MY AMENDMENT. >> Coun. Davis: IT IS AVAILABLE ON THE SCREEN FOR SHARING. >> Coun. Benton: THIS HAS TO DO WITH SOUTH BROADWAY AND DISTRICT 2 EXISTING DRAINAGE FUNDS JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE OUR CONTINGENCY FOR THE MARBLE ARNO PUMP STATION AND THANKS COUNCILORS FOR SUPPORTING THAT PROJECT. WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A GROUND BREAKING ON THAT SHORTLY. AND THEN ALSO JUST SOME HELP FOR EXPLOREA MUSEUM. >> ANY DISCUSSION ON FLOOR AMENDMENT NO. 1. I SEE NONE. CALL THE VOTE. >> Councilor Bassan: YES. >> Coun. Benton: YES. >> Coun. Borrego: YES. >> Coun. Gibson: YES. >> Coun. Harris: YES. >> Coun. Jones: YES. >> Coun. Pena: YES. >> Coun. Sena: YES. >> Coun. Davis: YES. AMENDMENT 1 PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >> Coun. Davis: FLOOR AMENDMENT NO. 2. >> Coun. Borrego: I WOULD JUST ASK IF YOU WOULD SHARE THAT ALSO. >> Coun. Davis: THIS RELATES TO THE COMP PLAN DOLLARS. >> YARA: I'LL EXPLAIN THIS BRIEFLY. THERE IS SOME UNUSED COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING MONEY FROM THE 2013GO BOND AND I DID MAKE SURE IT WAS PROPERLY SCOPED IN THE RIGHT QUESTION, SO, THESE MONIES WERE ISSUED UNDER THE STREET CATEGORY BACK THEN. THIS IS GOING TO BE TRANSFERRED, 25,000 OF THAT, TO THE NORTHWEST MESA GATEWAY PROJECT IN COUNCILOR BORREGO'S STRICT TO PLAN A GATEWAY ENTRANCE THAT WOULD HOPEFULLY ACCESS THE PETROGLYPH NATIONAL MONUMENT AND KIND OF DRAW VISITORS INTO THAT AREA OF THE CITY. I DON'T KNOW IF COUNCILOR BORREGO HAS ANY OTHER INFORMATION. >> Coun. Borrego: I WAS GOING TO SAY THE 50,000 THAT ORIGINALLY WAS FUNDED FOR THAT PROJECT CAME FROM THE LODGERS TAX MONEY. AND SO THIS JUST ADDS ADDITIONAL AMOUNT TO THAT BECAUSE WE ARE IN PROCESS OF HIRING SOME DESIGNERS. >> Coun. Davis: THANK YOU. SEEING NO OTHER DISCUSSION, ON FLOOR AMENDMENT NO. 2, BY COUNCILOR BORREGO. >> Coun. Davis: DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING. >> Coun. Sena: I WASN'T SURE IF IT WAS SECONDED YET. >> Coun. Davis: THANK YOU. I DID IT AS WELL AND WE'LL USE YOURS AS WELL. SEEING NO OTHER DISCUSSION, FLOOR AMENDMENT NO. 2, MS. ORTEGA. >> Councilor Bassan: YES. >> Coun. Benton: YES. >> Coun. Borrego: YES. >> Coun. Gibson: NO. >> Coun. Harris: YES. >> Coun. Jones: YES. >> Coun. Pena: YES. >> Coun. Sena: YES. >> Coun. Davis: YES. >> PASSES ON 8-1 VOTE. >> FLOOR AMENDMENT NO. 3. SHARE THAT ON THE SCREEN. >> Coun. Borrego: YES, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT COUNCILOR SAN CHESS AND I ACTUALLY STARTED WORKING ON AND NOW COUNCILOR SENA AND I ARE WORKING ON TOGETHER. WE JUST FINISHED A STUDY THAT WAS SHORT THIS AMOUNT FOR DOUBLE EAGLE AIRPORT AND WHAT THIS DOES IS IT CREATES LAND USE PORTION OF THAT STUDY. SO, I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >> Coun. Davis: FOR THE RECORD, THANK YOU -- >> Coun. Sena: SECOND. >> Coun. Davis: NO OTHER DISCUSSION. >> Councilor Bassan: YES. >> Coun. Benton: YES. >> Coun. Borrego: YES. >> Coun. Gibson: YES. >> Coun. Harris: YES. >> Coun. Jones: YES. >> Coun. Pena: YES. >> Coun. Sena: YES. >> Coun. Davis: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >> Coun. Davis: THANK YOU. WOULD YOU SHOW THE NEXT AMENDMENT PLEASE. COUNCILOR PENA IS FLOOR AMENDMENT NO. 4. >> Coun. Pena: I DON'T WANT TO READ THE WHOLE THING. WHAT DID YOU SAY 4? SO IT IS IN THE PACKET. >> Coun. Davis: I AM GOING TO INTERRUPT YOU. I THINK THERE IS ONE OTHER ONE FIRST RELATING TO 118TH STREET TO BE SURE WE KEEP THE RECORD RIGHT. I AM SORRY. WANTED TO BE SURE WE GET THAT RIGHT. >> Coun. Pena: IS THIS NO. 4? >> Coun. Davis: YES. >> PEN. PAGE 2 AFTER LINE 13 INSERT 118TH STREET TRANSPORTATION 30,000 SCOPE OF THE PROJECT TO COMPLETE TRANSPORTATION STUDY ON 118TH BETWEEN NEW MEXICO HIGHWAY 500 AND LA MESA AVENUE. YOU WOULD DELETE 30,000. SO, THE AMENDMENT REALLOCATE AS PORTION OF UNUSED 2011GO BONDING TO PROVIDE FUNDING FOR TRANSPORTATION STUDY ON THE 118TH FROM NEW MEXICO HIGHWAY 500. >> Coun. Borrego: SECOND. >> Councilor Bassan: YES. >> Coun. Benton: YES. >> Coun. Borrego: YES. >> Coun. Gibson: NO. >> Coun. Harris: YES. >> Coun. Jones: YES. >> Coun. Pena: YES. >> Coun. Sena: YES. >> Coun. Davis: YES. >> AMENDMENT 4 PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >> Coun. Davis: THIS WILL BE 5. THIS IS 60TH STREET. >> Coun. Pena: DO I HAVE TO READ THE WHOLE THING OR JUST READ EXPLANATION? >> Coun. Davis: CAN YOU SUMMARIZE IF YOU WISH. ITS WITH AVAILABLE BEFORE THE MEETING. >> Coun. Pena: THIS AMENDMENT ALLOCATES PORES OF UNUSED GO BONDING FROM COMPREHENSIVE REVITALIZATION TO SUPPORT TWO SUPPLEMENTAL PROGRAMS FOR 60TH STREET AND THE WESTGATE LITTLE LEAGUE CONCESSION STAND. >> Coun. Borrego: SECOND. >> Councilor Bassan: YES. >> Coun. Benton: YES. >> Coun. Borrego: YES. AND I WANT TO SAY I AM JEALOUS SHE HAS A KNOT'S LANDING IN HER DISTRICTS. >> Coun. Gibson: YES. >> Coun. Harris: YES. >> Coun. Jones: YES. >> Coun. Pena: YES. >> Coun. Sena: YES. >> Coun. Davis: YES. AMENDMENT 5 PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >> Coun. Davis: I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHERS IN THE PACKET. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION. GOING ONCE, GOING TWICE. I SEE NOTHING FROM ADMINISTRATION. COUNCILLOR BENTON TO CLOSE. >> Coun. Benton: THANK YOU. I WANT TO THANK ADMINISTRATION STAFF AND COUNCIL STAFF FOR WORK ON THIS AND I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >> Councilor Bassan: YES. >> Coun. Benton: YES. >> Coun. Borrego: YES. >> Coun. Gibson: YES. >> Coun. Harris: YES. >> Coun. Jones: YES. >> Coun. Pena: YES. >> Coun. Sena: YES. >> Coun. Davis: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY AS AMENDED. >> Coun. Davis: R-100. >> Coun. Pena: R-100 IS PROVES AUTHORIZING AND ACCEPTANCE OF GRANT FUND FROM DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCIAL MINORITY BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT AGENCY PROVIDING APPROPRIATION TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FOR FISCAL YEARS 20, 21 AND 22. MOVE A DO PASS. >> Coun. Sena: SECOND. >> Coun. Davis: ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NO OTHER, COUNCILLOR PENA YEAH, TO CLOSE. >> Coun. Pena: URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >> Councilor Bassan: YES. >> Coun. Benton: YES. >> Coun. Borrego: YES. >> Coun. Gibson: YES. >> Coun. Harris: YES. Z. >> Coun. Jones: YES. >> Coun. Pena: YES. >> Coun. Sena: YES. >> Coun. Davis: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >> Coun. Davis: LAST ITEM WE HAVE IS M-FOR. THAT IS FROM COUNCILORS BORREGO AND BENTON. FLOOR IS YOURS. >> Coun. Borrego: YOU WANT ME TO READ THIS SINCE I HAVE IT PULLED UP ON MY PHONE. IF I CAN STILL SEE. THIS IS A MEMORIAL URGING THE LEGISLATURE OF THE STATE OF NEW MEXICO TO REPEAL STATUTORY PROVISIONS PRE-EMPTING STRICTER COUNTY AND MUNICIPAL REGULATIONS OF THE SALE OF CIGARETTES, TOBACCO PRODUCTS AND ELECTRONIC SMOKING DEVICES. I'LL TELL YOU THE AMERICAN HEART ASSOCIATION APPROACHED COUNCILOR BENTON AND I REGARDING THIS WITH SOME KIND OF ASTOUNDING NUMBERS WITH REGARD TO OUR YOUTH AND THE SALE OF TOBACCO AND I FORGET WHAT THE OTHER LITTLE -- WHAT IS IT COUNCILOR. >> Coun. Benton: VAPING. >> Coun. Borrego: THAT IS BASICALLY WHAT IT IS TO URGE THEM TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE USE AND HOW WE CAN SORT OF CURB THAT USE. URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >> Coun. Davis: THANK YOU. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? >> Coun. Benton: I MAKE SURE YOU HAVE ME DOWN AS SECOND AND THIS IS, I MEAN, REALLY EPIDEMIC OF YOUNG PEOPLE. THEY DON'T SMOKE AS MANY CIGARETTES, SUPER EXPENSIVE NOW. >> Coun. Davis: I MISSED COUNCILOR BASSAN WHO RAISED HER HANDS. >> Councilor Bassan: YOU KNOW, HONESTLY IT IS JUST THAT I WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU FOR DOING THIS. I ALSO GOT A CALL AND I HAVE NO GOOD EXPLANATION THAT I DIDN'T GET TO IT YET. I AM REALLY VERY THANKFUL TO YOU FOR DOING THIS. I THINK IT IS A GOOD MEMORIAL AND I HOPE THE LEGILATURE DOES LOOK AT THIS. >> Coun. Benton: NOTHING MORE NEEDS TO BE SAID. I THINK WE ALL KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON, NUMBERS ARE ASTOUNDING OUT THERE, ESPECIALLY ON YOUNG PEOPLE AND SO I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >> Coun. Borrego: CAN I ALSO SAY THE SALE OF TOBACCO IS AT AGE 21 BUT WE ALL KNOW THAT IN SEEING THESE STATISTICS, OUR YOUTH AT 12 AND, YOU KNOW, EVEN YOUNGER THAN THAT ARE BEING AFFECTED SO I JUST THINK IT IS REALLY IMPORTANT. >> Coun. Davis: ALL RIGHT. SEEING NO OTHER DISCUSSION ASK THE CLERK TO CALL THE VOTE. >> Councilor Bassan: YES. >> Coun. Benton: YES. >> Coun. Borrego: YES. >> Coun. Gibson: YES. >> Coun. Harris: YES. >> Coun. Jones: YES. >> Coun. Pena: YES. >> Coun. Sena: YES. >> Coun. Davis: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >> Coun. Davis: THANK YOU COUNCILORS. THAT IS THE LAST THING ON OUR AGENDA. THANK YOU TO ADMINISTRATION AND OUR FOLKS IN PUBLIC FOR BEING HERE AND WE FINISHED EVERYTHING SO WE WILL SEE YOU NEXT MONTH. THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED. (MEETING ADJOURNED AT 9:15:00 P.M.)