This transcript features **Mayor Jim Michalski** presiding over the meeting, with significant reports from **Ellissa Owens** (City Administrator), **Chief Bryce** (Police Chief), **Phil Entner** (City Superintendent), and a public comment from resident **Roger Toman**. [0:00] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: I like to welcome everyone to the regulated meeting Moose Lake City Council for Wednesday and remember 14th and I like to start with the pledge of allegiance to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all. [0:51] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: First up it in Monda is the gender itself to have any changes or additions to the agenda hearing none we have a motion to accept the agenda. [1:05] **Council Member**: So moved. [1:07] **Council Member**: A second it. [1:10] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: All favor say aye (Aye) opposed motion carried. A number to a consent agenda we have two a 1 October 10th 2018 city council regular meeting minutes any discussion or questions. [1:30] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: 390 we have a motion to accept the minutes. [1:35] **Council Member**: So moved. [1:37] **Council Member**: I'll second. [1:39] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: All in favor say aye (Aye) opposed motorcade. Under to be financial reports we have number one the counts city accounts payable for November 2018 number two is a city financial statements for October 2018 number three is a liquor store profit loss statement for October 2018 you have any discussion or questions on a financial reports. [2:13] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: Very none to a motion to accept. [2:16] **Council Member**: Someone go ahead. [2:18] **Council Member**: Someone second. [2:21] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: All in favor say aye (Alright) I propose motion carried. Number three public comment this time is reserved for comments from the public on matters not listed on the agenda and then please keep your comments to three minutes and you wish to speak here today you come up to the podium please. [2:49] **Roger Toman**: Roger Toman. I moved to the side tears on august 2 what was supposed to be a nice quiet senior citizen section of the park everything is going very well up there except we have one ideate the drives a little old truck probably 500 plus horsepower motor two nice big stacks and he starts that thing that been your worst from 3:30 to 4:00 6:00 in the morning and wakes up at least 900 people I on one and I would like to know that without trying to get something done to resolve this and this this is clearly if nothing else disturbed a piece of allowable people up there and why is allowed they can they know these lives but I didn't see anybody measure those reading who struck at three o'clock in the morning when those eight of us lay awake listen to that truck run I would like to see something done for the Lord Venice or something that he's got to get duck take it to his terminal site that's not a truck fuelling the processing early or anything so we are I would like to see sudden bang I didn't move to Moose Lake to get woke up at four o'clock in the morning the rest of my life and especially the women now he's going to run tonight to keep it warm so I just wanted to see what you folks think about thank you. [4:24] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: Thank you we're yes so this is a suburb Roger okay well don't we have an ordinance some Ellissa could you maybe fill the Consul in on a little history? [4:56] **Ellissa Owens (City Administrator)**: I think my my understanding is that this person has lived there for six years lived there for six years he does drive a semi for his work he does not set his schedule somebody else left his schedule and he simply starts his truck and warms it up and needs to get to work in the morning we've talked with him the chief has talked to him a number of times his response is that he runs it for fifteen minutes lets it warm up and then drives to work I think that we are going to have a difficult time telling somebody that that drives a truck that needs a warming up for 15 minutes like the rest of us in the morning that they that they can't start their truck I think of it it would be different if if he's running this thing for you know two hours or something like that in the morning. [5:57] **Roger Toman**: That's 5:30 to 6:30 in the morning don't let me tell you you run there for 15 minutes because that is maybe the minimum okay he wants to make it good for himself there's no reason to cook we have a truck running in to see their section of town period. [6:22] **Ellissa Owens (City Administrator)**: Okay so we as far as ordinances go we do have ordinances for disturbing the peace we don't have a noise ordinance per se where we would go out there with some noise gauge and be measuring decibels or anything like that but I also don't know that that there is something that we should be enforcing here. [6:50] **Council Member (Kris Huso)**: Where do you remember didn't we do it ordinance on trucks that they could not be in residential areas because of the weight for one thing breaking up the roads and I thought so who but I had Tim check through ordinances and we don't sure we did and I'm a Christian member or I just remembered the Jake braking issues we were having up to stop the Jake Brandon little question where exactly is this truck being part? [7:23] **Roger Toman**: Is it Mike man is right behind the quilt shop on the hill? [7:28] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: Okay got it across. [7:30] **Roger Toman**: He parks closer to the nine-year-old on the side of the street that he does to his own bedroom and there's a line of Westar over 80 that estimate of that suffer every morning. [7:35] **Ellissa Owens (City Administrator)**: I think that there's there's a number of communities that then allow people with semis to to park in a residential area mainly because they they own their trucks and they can park them at their home so long as they have enough room I would have to say that Barnum sturgeon like cattle River all of these places are are there's no rule against parking a semi in a residential neighborhood so so long as it fits within there. [8:14] **Council Member**: I guess my question I thought was a better place for him to park it like going out where the old moose was you know because that's been taken down on that street so it's pointing out to the highway that the noise when it is supposed to the residents I mean... [8:30] **Ellissa Owens (City Administrator)**: Well I mean there's a there's an apartment building right next to that I would say that we're just making that somebody else's somebody else's problem but I think the better a better location would be somewhere out like by a gas station and like that commercial area but I guess would then telling him that he needs to drive to go start his truck and and just just pushing this down the line I think we're causing issues for for him I think we're what we're ending up doing is we're picking sides between between residents when when we do that. [9:35] **Roger Toman**: Man has a right to wake up 1000 people any damn time that they watch it. [9:40] **Ellissa Owens (City Administrator)**: I would say that a better idea would be if the council would like to pass some sort of resolution that is a little bit broader than a one resident versus one resident I think that would be a better choice as it stands right now you have you have come and spoke with us and we have spoke with the other resident and right now it's it's just one resident against another resident that's that's all that we have right now we've talked about trying to get additional people to say that that it's it's also waking them up I think we've we spoke with other people that we know that they live up there that say that it doesn't wake them up. [10:30] **Council Member**: It right now it's I just can't get it out of my head because I know Bryce we've talked about this before because it was the semi apply the yeah was an issue remember and there was a few others through the years of complaining running their trucks in a residential area. [10:50] **Chief Bryce (Police Chief)**: Scoured I just could not find a violation anywhere there are other people that do park their trucks in the county on the city streets you know first second third during they're gonna block a driveway if they were to do that but this is on private property there's a another industrial building prank their truck driver says they get deliveries at all hours region electric he said there's no way he runs his truck from one than 15 minutes that fee will be almost $4 a gallon city also needs to plug it in in the wintertime and he's also said that he is looking looking to build appear on a home in the country he's just trying to say well funny buddy he's hard-working guy been very very approachable every time I've dealt with them he said he put a different exhaust system on his truck to make it fighter he says it's not that loud he says he does idles down the hill when he leaves we've got no other complaints other than mr. Toman there's just they're just no violation then I could find sir. [12:12] **Ellissa Owens (City Administrator)**: Thank you and again he has lived there for six years he's had a semi there for six years that the same same thing going on so again I would say that if the council wants to pass some sort of ordinance that is a little bit more all-encompassing that that's fine and that is certainly up to the City Council I think in this case pitting one resident against another is not the best way for the City Council the to conduct their business. [12:50] **Council Member**: The place gets calls in the morning for noise then it gets to be a nuisance if there's more than one call. [12:59] **Council Member**: Nuisance is a pretty broad all the way they are weak and they pull up and every and woke up by it if how many people call the court as a nuisance let's ask Bryce how many would need to call before. [13:17] **Chief Bryce (Police Chief)**: I don't know that there's a number but I guess I haven't read it simple or we didn't I don't believe it actually gave a number of five people or ten. [13:27] **Council Member**: This is a personal thing on this issue and I understand that but I mean you know as far as whether better gentlemen gentlemen started late to complain on adjust because how many other people does it actually bother you get so many complaints then does it come to a point that you have to do something. [13:46] **Council Member**: Well I think if one person habitually claims he makes a complaint and that's not a bunch of complaints and so all I know that that's what I didn't so at the moment we have one official complaint. [13:56] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: He's my analogy be somebody living next to a railroad tracks you know train goes through that 2:00 in the morning after they've been there while they don't hear it. [14:15] **Roger Toman**: I am just bought a full city block Lenexa between me and that truck are four other houses the closest one is about 55 yards from that truck you can't tell me it doesn't wake them up in a month. [14:32] **Council Member**: Well this is the point of the dough that people have to say something they're 89 years old difficult they don't want to make trouble for nobody but I'm not here to be waking up every morning and more time. [14:45] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: We understand that but as as a console and as a city we can't just take one complaint and run with it what a point of that somebody else will come in with another complaint for something else. [15:00] **Roger Toman**: Well I understand that your voice to me common sense that that trucks would the driver would have enough brains not to park it in the residences weak enough nine ten people every day but again argue that pardon... [15:15] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: Well I think we've dealt with this. [15:18] **Roger Toman**: ...well I think we've dealt with this you talk that great length about this and the chief is is aware of that it is a comes down to I think a law enforcement issue if the law is being broken if it's not then we'd have to revisit right any but I think we've extended over the three minutes that we've had for public comment on an issue that's not on the agenda that doesn't mean that it's not an important issue to mr. Tilman and possibly others we have it now in front of us and if we if there's some ordinance that we can move forward with fine but it's not going to be an ordinance that just is going to be punitive to one person so I think maybe it is one one solution that you can take as maybe some next steps from us. [16:42] **Ellissa Owens (City Administrator)**: How about I call some of the local communities and see if anybody vans semis and residential areas I think that we're gonna find that that's not the case but perhaps every city banned semis and and were late to the to the party I don't think so but I can I can check into that bus. [16:50] **Phil Entner (City Superintendent)**: Like to ask you a question I probably asked it to you before you know when we first got the complaint on this when you talked to the gentleman no one's a truck did you ask him if he could park it somewhere else if he had another place? [17:15] **Chief Bryce (Police Chief)**: He has to plug it in and he plugged it in from his his home that he rents to keep the engine one there's no other place you could bring it to plug it in and not that he knew of. [17:35] **Phil Entner (City Superintendent)**: Okay thank you I understand I understand they're very respectful and open. [17:44] **Roger Toman**: Yep. [18:00] **Ellissa Owens (City Administrator)**: All right so Ellissa we're going to look into this with the surrounding communities and and just for the council when we did hear this and it's probably been a month ago about when you first brought it up and we did go through all the ordinances to look at it both Bryce did Tim did I did and went up and talked to the people that I did know upon the the upper area of the ya know Park which it is privately owned it isn't that isn't even a city street up there and nor is the entrance going up there city street is privately owned but but the answer I got was no but that doesn't mean that it isn't happening there very well could be yes yes yes no I don't think we plow that we do it under contract with them okay so we don't throw them out a good grace but it isn't our speak okay there is a statute that applies to dreamer promise sure thank you all right note taken. [19:18] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: Thank you thank you moving on to number four yes did you have a comment mr. Peterson thanks and thanks for coming in okay yes sir number for departmental reports for a police chief Department report October 18 November 11th 2018. [19:44] **Chief Bryce (Police Chief)**: Mr. mayor council thank you usually for a month that's historically pretty quiet it's been really busy water calls a lot of investigations just just a very busy month I was a lot of traffic with deer hunting and moving right into the holiday season that that usually is a very busy time for us my notes here are your squad car has arrived I just got word today that it is going in on Friday to get built takes about a week to get all the electronics installed may not get the bid on the other you know I don't know what the actual price that it went for but I know like Fed would PD they bit quite a bit more than than we did so I don't know who got it but it obviously didn't go for what we hoped it wouldn't so in October we have firearms training simulator that the company comes and gives us different scenarios when to use the proper force that's needed when mandated training that we have anymore with mentally ill people and a lot of those scenarios were interacting with people in crisis or mentally ill or or under the influence of some kind of road altering drugs so very good training we also spent a whole afternoon on at the firing range qualifying with all their weapons. [21:53] **Chief Bryce (Police Chief)**: I like to participate in a program called shop with a cop this year it's a it's a really neat event I know cocaine does it and I think the Sheriff's Department helps them out but it's pretty much them get donations to to help underprivileged kids and families to buy them gifts and make it a wonderful holiday season so a lot of these kids through no fault of their own don't know all the joy of Christmas that a lot of other people do so I brought this up with our Kiwanis Club two weeks ago last week and they were on favor of it then graciously donated $250 to the event when they got back from the Kiwanis meaning I got a call from Moose Lake burger stumpy that said that they had five hundred dollars to donate to it also so so that's wonderful I'm also asking that the studio that their donation fund donate $100 to this project I don't know if that has to be on the agenda till they're not we can just do it when you're done speaking okay but pretty much we're just gonna work with Human Services and school counselors and find needy families or children that that we can help and take them shopping with our officers at shopkins so when I'm a deep picked up and have all the details compiled you up well we're working on it and I think it's just gonna be a wonderful event. [23:45] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: So yeah I think between like National Night Out the shirts that we just ordered and all the all the other different times that the police department gets involved in the community I think that's a number of the reasons why our Police Department is very well respected and very well liked and appreciated in our community I think this is a an easy way for us to get involved for our Police Department to do not only a good deed but also to just get out in the community for more positive reasons rather than anything anything else so we have about three thousand six hundred and fifty five dollars in our donation fund I would certainly say that this is is worth a donation from us and I think it's it's a really really cool idea that the police department decided to participate in so yeah so you're looking for emotion not only to participate but also for under dollar donation that's what I understand. [24:45] **Council Member (Douglas Juntunen)**: Sure yeah um I'd like to make a motion that we participate in the shop of cop but I would like to increase the donation to $250. [24:58] **Council Member**: Second that then. [25:00] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: Through the discussion questions wonderful in you it's what community is so thank you thank you all in favor say aye (Aye) opposed motion carried thank you II also and also too for they have 218 calls for the month that's a lot of activity thank you very much if you don't want to stay for the rest of the council me you don't have to you're certainly welcome to leave and you're welcome to stay just to let you know that moving on for Public Works. [25:46] **Phil Entner (City Superintendent)**: Superintendent report sanitary survey report mr. Marylanders a pencil study on page 37 in your packet is the annual sanitary survey of work from the Minnesota Department as you can tell it's done every year we are completely in compliance with everything that we are asked to be by the department just a reminder to keep proper distance around our rows in our lanolin a row house and I did notice the summer after looking at this that there is a couple things I will I will talk with Joe about to get make sure we maintain that clearance around that building nothing major just to make sure that he's aware that any of his equipment vehicles so and so forth is that 50-foot radius away from the pump house. [26:45] **Council Member**: Other than like fertilizer? [26:48] **Phil Entner (City Superintendent)**: And know it's it's it's actually vehicles even damper or a truck or anything like that it's okay yep when my person from the Department of Health was here I don't believe there was any issues or he had no restraint or made a note of anything but I did I did notice a few times this summer there were vehicles parked closer than I personally would like to have to our purpose so I think a quick conversation with Joe or not we'll just take care of all that the spring so well visit that this spring and that should be taken care of but other than that um the department health wise we are where we're sitting very good shape so as far as the rest of the water department for the month of October we did distribute 4.3 million gallons drinking water a new water service was installed on Seville and Kenwood Avenue that it did it was a cross connection what that is is you have one service leading off a water main that times to two dwellings um in this situation it was the st. Peter's Church and what used to be the old parsonage for st. Peter's Church which now is owned by a different owner and those latter services were it started out with a with a leak in the water service it was an old pipe that had that had leaks in it and ended up running to new service lines that were copper we were able to locate the curb stops at the property line where they're supposed to be so the city maintains its responsible part of the pipe like they should and and then the homeowner takes care of the rest in this situation it was kind of backwards it was the the curb stop which the city owned was way farther than the property line that that became figuration for us so all around there was it was a win for everybody and that's taken care of and done that leak actually actually saved like 30,000 gallons a day I didn't think it was gonna be that much but it was it was it was crazy I know we talked about today but when you started it was how much 250,000 gallons a day we would we would pump the treatment pump to the city of Moose Lake and we are at between 95 thousand a hundred ten a day which is crazy so good stuff there. [29:05] **Phil Entner (City Superintendent)**: Um one other thing that the water system a new recirculation pump doesn't start at the tower here last week we did that in-house on our old one we had had some issues with it last winter it was well beyond its life expectancy it was just time for it to go so um that's up and running piped in everything was good there so we are a water system was ready for even though we all might not be it is so so a department we collected 17 million gallons of wastewater the November discharge is currently in the way which is approximately 36 million yards wastewater is treated our phosphorus limit this it's still questionable only because of a unknown discharging we had well not unknown but an unanticipated discharge in July that we had to do for flooding reasons but we've I've already been in contact with the PCA about that and they they're well aware of it they totally understand everything is is legit and it's good there so although the stations have been cleaned that was completed last Friday the list I lose station calibrations will be done this coming month I'm not sure a time yet but we'll we'll slip it in whatever we get time and our October 24th we Scott and I both attended a wastewater training and got a river which was was really good for us it's it's all this is sue Minnesota water and every month you sit here and you listen we talk about ministerial sort of a water and but I tell you what that agency is one huge huge asset to these small towns that have lack of funding and have lack of resources to go out and learn how to do this stuff and these trainings are free and we just and it's good for us to make an appearance we meet a bunch of guys we didn't know we met two different vendors I didn't even know existed one of them's been around for 30 years they undercut our our flow meter calibration company by over 50% they're coming next week or the following week to calibrate our flow meters which is run every year anyway and a very reputable company that so these things are good it's it's very and it's a good networking thing for us as a department to get to know other community members and work with them and deal with them and then and also discuss with them the problems they're having and how and the ones we're having and then try to counteract them and see how they're dealing with it and to try to save away some money so it's so obvious these are really good and I'm really glad we can be a part of that. [31:15] **Phil Entner (City Superintendent)**: Street department the street CIP program was scheduled to start yesterday with the snowfall we kicked it off until next week hoping that the snow mountain movie will be able to get that done next week snow and ice removal started last Sunday and everyone's not excited about that but that's just it so pavel pothole patching was completed the week of the 29th and our manhole patching was also completed last week so that wraps up pretty much not to worry some more work so you know we talked about the district back oh yeah so October was a day after the bass council meeting wasn't 11th yes yeah Thursday remember um Windermere sanitary sewer district etta had an issue with the lift station that it failed our system our gravity system ties into theirs before it goes into their live station that they all in home in tain our our piping network is the lowest section of the entire system up there so basically what happened when the lift station shut down its the wastewater started backing up and we ended up having a spill bosses in Kenwood north by the way yeah sorry sorry ten that's okay um I wasn't it was noticed I mean number one on our permit absolutely number one is to report any spill of anything over five gallons of wastewater immediately to the PCA that was that was done the report was filed with them everything was fine I just finished the rest of the paperwork for a discharge monetary work for October today actually that kind of wrapped all that up that that inter inspect a meeting with us and the district and there was a few things touched on there I don't know if you want to discuss it why not or just leave it at that. [33:30] **Ellissa Owens (City Administrator)**: Okay so there is yes there were some issues up there they have fixed their station and then fix their pumps and their controls as far as that I don't know it's it's being up there being a collection part of their lift station and stuff because if they have issues that we have to hurry up in react and do what we're supposed to do. [33:55] **Phil Entner (City Superintendent)**: But we did the best we could and as far as the PCA goes the their hats off to us that we did exactly what we're supposed to do in exactly the right time and everything is good is there any more you want to touch on you know during that? [34:10] **Ellissa Owens (City Administrator)**: I think that one thing to note is just that there was also a backup into one of the homes in the city of Moose Lake and between insurance and the district it's it's taken care of and and it's nothing that we need to worry about but it was within the city of Moose Lake as well so just in case that resident speaks to anybody their insurance company and the sewer district are are taking care of it so any questions for me thank you thank you much moving on to a foresee technology /library report nothing this month for d city engineer and that starts on page 42 yep the package just the first part just to kind of finish up the street CIP we did it we did approve kind of a way that we were gonna go about measuring kind of ranking them initially once the initial ranking is done just by kind of the model that we have set up we will then review that probably either with the council maybe send it out door with the street committee or however we want to handle it but there will be chances to just have that human element added into it as well and to be reviewed before it's it's approved as well. [35:35] **Ellissa Owens (City Administrator)**: The second part is the the well project the first part was the the water model that seh was doing they have most all of it done except that they found basically they they found something weird and they think that there's a valve that is shut off somewhere in the city and they're gonna try to pinpoint it before we send Phil on a wild goose chase but it also kind of brought to light that there's a number of of things in our water system that that I think we've we thought weren't necessary that I'm starting to think are maybe not so necessary so hopefully by the end of the water model and the well study we'll be able to either eliminate or justify replacing a couple things as well and then on would that water main extension that's I guess I have a statement and then a question the statement is the assessments got considerably worse than then we thought I think the assessment number was like 48,000 or something ridiculous I think we're gonna have a hard time justifying a number that high but no matter what I would I would probably not suggest to to anybody that we even look at an assessment that's $48,000 and then on top of that I don't think most any of them would actually pay that assessment. [37:15] **Ellissa Owens (City Administrator)**: So that assessment is calculated with a watermain extended down there replacing the sewer main because we would already have it dug up and then finishing the road so we would basically redo a road to redo the water and sewer doesn't have water but we would put new water main in there do you want to look at just boring water in there which kind of goes against everything that that I'd like to see us do with with some of these projects it would be a lot cheaper he would get the project done people would have access to water but the sewer is 60 years old 50 years old the roads in pretty rough shape I think if we're if we're doing it we either do it or we or we or we don't so something to think about I guess the engineers basically brought this up in the context that when they finish their report for these assessments at the end of it they have to put their opinion on whether or not this is a good project and I told him not to put his opinion on it I asked that he simply bring it to a council meeting in a draft format before he even puts his name to this to make sure that everybody's clear on what we're talking about because that's that's a lot of money so that'll probably get done within a say a month or two when we should have something presented here and that's that's it for the engineer report. [38:50] **Council Member**: Got a question Ellissa the things that you found that probably are necessary is that because of expansions and upgrades and other theories of the system? [39:00] **Ellissa Owens (City Administrator)**: Nope it's because they're either broke or stuck open when they're so if pressure reducing valves one is stuck open so we're not actually ever reducing the pressure one is broken and then the one in the booster station is also broken so we went three for three on pressure reducing valves that are not doing what they're supposed to so my question would be if one one we locked open so that it doesn't ever reduce pressure that one clearly should not be there the one on sue Hill is locked to open because it's broken but it's not it's not breaking anything so I don't know that that one's that we need to justify have in that one and then the one in the booster station that one's locked closed or is that one locked open - that one wasn't opening at all so now when that one's broke the other way that one we might that one we might need to have here's the station at booster station I'm kind of I know would kind of twin lanes okay okay so it's not it's closed it's not doing anything that one's just now working the way that it's supposed to the other two are either locked open or broken open okay and then and then there's also the booster station which is a much larger conversation of whether or not we need that because technically our wells are pumping water the long way and the short way to the water tower which means that basically the booster station we thought that we would need the booster station because we would pump water the short way and it would pump it back up the hill and we're we're basically getting water there without it so yeah okay any questions by the council very good and Norwood deal I guess you'll see that in January so yeah that that's a that's a tough project I know that it's been years and years and years and honestly I don't know what the right answer to that one is it's it so okay thank you moving on to for a Chamber of Commerce updates. [41:35] **Chamber Representative**: Thank you you're welcome thank you instrument and sheath in city councilors my apologies for not being here for the last several months this when we moved the time it does fall into my workday and my boss gets a little cranky with me when when I'm not there so so the chamber moving into moving into the winter time we're not quite as busy so this is kind of the time of year that we worked on maybe updating processes procedures and things like that so we're busy with that and we're going through our bylaws right now the chamber coincidentally never really had a definition to any terms for the board members or any terms for officer positions so it's kind of been felt like once you're on which I understand Ted may want to be on that it was kind of a life sentence and we're wanting to try to get away from that from the idea that that's what's happening so we're looking at putting changing our bylaws to get a little bit more definition on what you're actually signing up for with chamber so which then we'll bring to the membership at our annual dinner which happens January 12th you all are invited so if you want to put that on your calendar it'll be at the zoo lion Event Center and as it has been in the last several years at six o'clock. [42:54] **Chamber Representative**: A couple of one other thing that we're working on that will get I think we've kind of committed to have this done by April or by the Business Expo is a we took over from the EDA formulating it a coupon buck heard like a Welcome Packet for people that move into town from other businesses we can give them you know whether it's a coupon for a service or maybe you know whatever it is just something welcoming people into town so we we've committed to have that done by the by April which is the Business Expo so we're getting some help from Katie with that and we have a committee formulated so we'll get that done we have a couple of events happening this winter the first of which is our ice bocce event happening February 9th we have our committee together for that last year's event was very fun very well attended we expect that it'll hopefully double participation from last year but so you should be considering who's going to be on your team this year for that event and then of course that the Business Expo coming up after that but the final thing I want to talk about we do have coming to town which is a good collaboration between several different organizations that chamber the Kiwanis / / Commercial Club and then with the city as well we have the 2018 Olympic gold-medalist curling team coming to town they will be doing presentations at the Royal River School at 1:30 on December 12 then coming down to the Moose Lake School doing a presentation to the kids at 2:30 then we will have a it open to the public at 4 o'clock for another presentation and in between after that the kids kind of clear out of the school there will be opportunities for photos and handshaking and things of that nature and pictures with the athletic teams so it's a really good example of you know one of the things that we had in our strategic plan going forward was really to collaborate more with what the rest of the area and so I think that's a good example of some things that we've done as I was sitting there I thought I should have brought that strategic plan just to tell you guys I mean we've made a lot of progress on some of our goals for that so there's some more things that we need to do yet but we are making progress so I think that's all unless Louis I think that's all we have for the chamber. [45:16] **Ellissa Owens (City Administrator)**: So while we're with all she brought it up item 6 F is that the curling team with that I kind of signed us up to do this so now I need you to back me up but I'd like to take 750 dollars from that donation fund and contribute to the the curling team coming here as well I think right now it's the city the chamber Kiwanis and commercial club we have commercial yeah we have commitments of money in hand from the other so there's there's four members coming there are so and now I'm not gonna remember but I know it's John Shuster John Leila Steiner Joe Perillo and Tyler camera yeah I can't remember but four of the five team members will be basically each one of these organizations will will contribute seven hundred and fifty dollars and and I think that as far as getting school kids community all of that together that's a pretty good use for for those funds so I would ask that you pass a motion to do that as well. [46:18] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: Do you have any other items? [46:21] **Chamber Representative**: I do not have any other items from Jim in the chamber do you have any questions or comments for me thank you very much appreciate it thanks for having me again you're welcome to state where you can sneak up Tia. [46:40] **Council Member**: What was the time for the ice bocce on February 9th? [46:49] **Chamber Representative**: So we usually start that that's a great question I think of all usually the first time in the only time I will started right around noon so it's about a new and I mean it was 11 I think I'll have to get ready doing that's more socially acceptable thank you. [47:11] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: Since that item has been brought up I'll jump down to 6f the USA curling team and Chin's request for $750 out of the gambling fund I'll contribute out of the gambling fund that's $750 to the US curling teams appearance second and you don't other discussion questions standing all in favor say aye (Alright) opposed motion carried thank you moving on to 5a the 2018 flood previously discussed business we're still working with FEMA to get all the projects approved I think we have to two of the groups approved and then we're working with our engineers to get drawings and quantities for replacing some catch basins and things like that so that we can satisfy some of FEMA's requests but were moving along your deadline set at this point right last time last year was like a year wasn't 18 months or some I think last year I think the last time that I did this it was a year they all kind of run together. [48:45] **Ellissa Owens (City Administrator)**: Okay five beat Rio Grande do T and safe routes to school and so I had sent out this email we we received six hundred and ten thousand dollars towards the trail going from the bridge to county road 10 at the roundabout demand from the roundabouts South down to the school kind of the next step is that we submitted a letter of intent to safe routes to school I've had a number of people ask me what the dollar amount for this project is and we just won't know until the safe routes to school stuff is done so the grant that we received from MnDOT is is only for work done within within the highway right away safe routes to school grants make you go all the way to the school so it just kind of increases the scope of the project so once once we know more about the safe routes to school stuff then we'll be able to finalize the project I talked with Carlton County commissioners I talked with Mercy Foundation state representatives a couple other people we we know about a DNR local trail grant that's annual there's there's a lot of different ways that we can finish funding this project but I think by the time that we're all said and done and this is for construction in 2021 I should say by the time that we're all said and done I think that we should have the vast vast majority of this paid for by grants so it's a it's a pretty easy sell because it's a pretty good project for the community so that's that's what's coming up questions by the council great job thank you. [50:50] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: Moving on 5c Squad bid which I believe that our stock didn't go through so we'll we'll skip on from that number six new business 6 a truth in taxation public hearing December 12th at 6 p.m. so the the USA Curling team is coming that December 12th as well and we have a council meeting at four o'clock this is just a reminder that we have that public hearing set for six o'clock so we will probably have a little bit of a gap between the council meeting and that public hearing but that's those are the rules that it can't be prior to 6 o'clock so just to remind our truth in taxation public hearing December 12th that's six we have to have a quorum at the meeting at that we do anything taxation just so everyone knows and I will not be in the state so Chris you'll be running the meeting just so you know at a time moving on to 6b resolution 18 - 11 - OH - canvassing municipal election returns and declaring results after elections we are required to canvass the election results I have the Secretary of State's website printed off I'm on the second page and then I also if anybody wants to see our results for all of the races not just the local elections but all of them I have that as well but we we are required to pass this resolution council. [52:25] **Council Member**: So move. [52:28] **Council Member**: Down a second. [52:30] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: Any discussion questions all in favor say aye (Aye) aye opposed motion carried moving on to 6e ordinance 104 C zoning of wireless communication towers and facilities fish reading just a couple bits of background first this this would be a new section to our zoning ordinance similar to the sign ordinance where we tucked it into the back of our zoning ordinance and then this went to the Planning Commission a week or two weeks ago or something like that and this was recommended to the City Council to to pass this ordinance basically what this does is it sets up zoning guidelines for wireless communication towers and facilities things like Heights setbacks and any other rules and regulations that that we need to set forth for cell towers in Moose Lake any questions from the council now the second will be next month yeah with with an ordinance we need to read it the tonight would be the first reading if you guys pass that the second reading and public hearing would be in December okay before I ask for that did you want to speak to the council sir thank you. [54:37] **Rick Adams (Telecom Consultant)**: My name is Rick Adams I'm an independent telecom consultant that Verizon had hired to bring a new facility into the city of Moose Lake the kind of the background on that is we were working on a spot that with the high school with the school district and come to find out that the city did not have an ordinance that would allow wireless facility anywhere within the city which is a direct conflict with the telecom Act of 1996 so I started working well give that information back to the city of visited with the Planning and Zoning Board a couple times to see how we would make an application for that site and after those meetings I had a couple of conversations with the mayor and another the Planning and Zoning Board and they explained to me why that they thought that that was a bad site and I actually agreed that it probably wasn't a good site because of the history of the site not because of the physical characteristics of the site but because of the history with that particular site. [56:10] **Rick Adams**: So you gotta realize a company like Verizon or AT&T you're not working with one person you're working with a people the group of managers so I got on some had seller conference calls with Verizon and took their different managers and some of the people on the call wanted to sue the city to get the permanent which and their opinion they thought they could easily want to see like that some of the people who are like V myself and some of the salespeople and and public relations people said we had two conversation that it'd be better to try to work with the city rather than a force of sight down her throat because once you build the site there it's there to serve the city and its residents and you don't want to start a divisive situation where you got residents opposing other residents it's just not a good healthy situation going to and try to market the product to salt so is my recommendation to work with the city and and I came to the City Council to asked that we work on ordinance but what have happened since is this ordinance that was drafted was not really did not really include any of the carrier's in the drafting of it. [57:45] **Rick Adams**: Typically one ordinance gets drafted or if you couldn't work with other carriers he would assign a working group in them after which three meetings without working group and come up with a the ordinance that would kind of fulfill the needs of the city and put the restrictions in place that the city felt the city administrators felt would would work well with their city but that didn't happen in this case what happened was the city went on got an attorney out of st. Paul drafted ordinance I showed that ordinance to do Bryson Bryson through action was gonna pull the site out of the city so they told me to try my time and that they would not participate anymore in this ordinance or try to put the site in the city limits so I turned up my time and got paid for my time but I came here this evening because I just didn't want to not show up to leave you guys wondering what happened but in my opinion this ordinance should not be adopted and should go back to the drawing board work with the carriers and come up with a reasonable zoning ordinance this or exam units I took that took a day and on through it and make comments structurally it's not even doesn't even make sense it doesn't separate smash smash also else in facilities for macrocytosis facilities yet in the beginning it says zone with a CEP process from hand it's it doesn't talk about that process it says that if you disagree with the results of the public hearing you're supposed to go through these on appeal the city administrators decision to the City Council what isn't the city administrators decision if you're going to see you pee process it's it's the City Council's decision so there are other things are flawed in that just in the way it's set up in the beginning you got it says well those facilities you can't hear it and within three wireless facilities on existing power you get to the elements and sauce if you got at our plan feet over hundred feet scummy built for four carriers so if you're not the facilities don't three carriers or four it just doesn't make sense and then just the way it ties in with your what proposed by the way ordinance a proposed right away or it says that is she gonna have our site your first priority just to look to see if you could smile while I was facility out of the right away for safety reasons but your other organs this just 104c does it not allow that except this fugitive dust rules of them so I made took a day a lot of comments besides the rents being flawed it's just overreaching. [1:02:15] **Rick Adams**: Do you remember you know if the gas station came in and said I want to see you pee and you had in the ordinance well where do you see a pee for a gas station but we're going to review on five years see if there's better technology available like electric cars you may not need a gas station you know there so we can decide to revoke your permanent to invest money in the gas station photo only without your commitment so that should not be adopted off staying the way you rat rather than getting into a complicated situation the ordinance is 20 pages long and I just don't see how it would be administered properly. [1:03:00] **Rick Adams**: Now you're going to some other things that you're conflating small society wireless facilities like ya know if the facility is twenty six feet tall you might get away with a scene that you could measure the RF radiation of that site annually but if this ten times are over ten meters off the ground you he can't it's deemed by the FCC to be categorically safe so you can't manage asked for those measurements on sites where the antennas of management and ten days yourself to God it's just against the law against the federal law so the other thing you have in there that's kind of a thing that can't be applied or complied with and you got a statement in there that says you need a qualified engineer to verify that has a sale to look at the structural stuff you'd have to get in right around engineer to look at any other stuff but then about the FCC laws and the state laws you have to give an attorney to do that these companies just done there's no way to comply with our part of the ordinance and you ask how do you get an engineer to verify that they will be filing a loss it just doesn't make it's just an impossibility so that's why if you take the time to read through you can see that God ordinances really flawed and very hard stern and very hard for a carrier to come out and compile this so in the end you know song made the statement that we're doing this for Verizon but you're not doing it for Verizon you're doing it for the residents so that they get better service and our capacity for that service so if you look into the future sometimes it's hard to do but I can write 25 years of looking into the future on these issues what kind of a voice of experience and it's just difficult comply with this ordinance to minister to. [1:06:15] **Rick Adams**: So so what happens is the effect is not gonna have even have substandard wireless service in your city and if any city around here had the same problem might not be in that big of the broad of the situation a lot of times even test the size of moves like in better service eventually residences and the businesses are going to notice they of substandard service at that point if you adopted this you decide to relax it so you can get serviced you're still two years away from getting that service and this is a very real situation I'm talking about because next week I go to a Township north of caps late but hire an attorney out of Minneapolis to do ordinance that doesn't fit with the rural Township and you know they come - what - situation here eight years later if you see Jesus we don't have any service up here what's the problem problems they got bad - so next week we're going to fix it but it takes time to fix it and once it gets fixed and you get a cable to budget the money to come in to fix the problem we're still two years away from doing the site work because it takes them almost two years to get to the NEPA process the City Council does not adopt this ordinance to sit down appoint a subcommittee and get serious about doing a real ordinance that works for the city so not advising since riceland it's not paying for my services this evening anything I said I didn't say this is my opinion it's not raisins opinion but don't think it's in the way for the folks to know we know what's going on just peace so while we passed the one handsome price and walked away not in a lie so so would you guys like to send us back to the Planning Commission it's what was dissipated before we say anything. [1:08:44] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: Tim there's a council have any questions how this how the ordinance was developed I would have a statement that when he came up and said that there wasn't input he sat at the Planning Commission meeting his input was that the cell tower needed to be higher in the ordinance and we changed that so there was input I understand that that you're representing Verizon at that time tonight you're not things had to be done I think in a faster pace than what we wanted in a lot of ways I felt strong arms sitting on the Planning Commission by Verizon as this is what you will do this is what you have to do and that's not the first time tonight is not the first time you mentioned suing the city of Moose Lake which puts a bad taste in my mouth I don't think that big company should come into cities and threaten them and then say well I have a great ordinance for you that doesn't breed trust in my mighty point I found it rather tasteless but I will certainly would not want to go forward and put an ordinance together that isn't complete and I think that whenever we do receive information that wasn't on the agenda our policy and procedure or procedure is is to read that and have a month to digest it and the proper place probably would be to bring that back to the Planning Commission to make sure that we haven't made mistakes so that's that's my statement. [1:10:25] **Ellissa Owens (City Administrator)**: And I I guess I would I would agree and one quick statement which is there is one reason and one reason only that this ordinance is here and it's because we were told that it's illegal for us to not have one whether this ordinance is the best ordinance written or the worst ordinance written it has the sole purpose of protecting the residents of Moose Lake that is the only reason that this was ever written or even thought about now if Verizon would like to pull out of of having an antenna in Moose Lake it sounds to me like we have month or two de to reconsider this but I would say in the future should Verizon ever wish to come back into this community the very first thing that that we asked initially and the very first thing that we would ask in the future is that we would we would certainly like to have a conversation but this was this was never an open conversation from Verizon to the city so I would agree it should go back to the the Planning Commission and thank you for taking your personal time and putting notes in there that you believe to be pertinent and relevant I'm not trying to browbeat you at all I'm just saying how it was handled to me did not feel right and I'm really speaking for myself but I do appreciate your personal effort and highlighting things that you believe to be important so thank you for that I just have one further question Tim your understanding and development of the the ordinance was from the League of Minnesota cities our attorneys my understanding is that our our city attorney pulled well from the league and from other communities and from other ordinances that that they've have written previously so just to the council no and it wasn't something that just made up it actually came from past history and it wasn't just law firm they did look at legal in Essaouira cities and ones that have been developed already just for more information also. [1:12:47] **Council Member**: Well should we send this back with his comments and yeah make sure that you know the motion I would say listen back because this is a first reading on the agenda I would say that the motion would be to take this and then and then I will send it back to our attorneys and back to the Planning Commission. [1:13:05] **Council Member**: I'll make a motion to table the first reading. [1:13:10] **Council Member**: Over seconds second. [1:13:12] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: All in favor say aye (Aye) opposed motion carried yeah yes sir. [1:13:28] **Council Member**: I just have a question what why is there so many different heights and then separations you shouldn't look at ours here instead of of his this is the same one no it's not there's part there's there's partners are different I'd I'm not but they're students until a difference different categories which page in ours on 15 or 61 and 62 of the of our packet or the packet they gave us but it has less than 50 feet on you know the separation 100 feet 50 200 200 101 or 50 is 400 so it has nothing to do with the power of the know. [1:14:19] **Ellissa Owens (City Administrator)**: So the reason there's differences is the there's different heights for towers because we have a maximum that we allow but they could be lower than that and then the height of a proposed tower because somebody can add to it and then the minimum separation between the two towers so for instance the the parcel that we were looking at was like a 13 acre parcel and the minimum separation let's just pick one is 400 feet too old and I guess technically you could put a few of them on there so the minimum separation of those and then the height of those yeah okay so it isn't on the power so that if you had a so you'd always go by the greatest separation so if we had a shorter Tower versus a taller tower you would be well you have to look at what the height of the existing tower is on the property the height of the proposed tower is and then the minimum separation between those so these are all wireless towers and we're looking at standalone towers so when we when we talked with Verizon they basically he described three different tower options that that uh basically that you could put up there's there's a few different options depending upon the height okay so there could be wires into okay but there again that won't work with small cell sites you can get by with that at macro sites but your small cell sites won't work that separation yes though the small cell stuff is an entirely separate discussion I see that there's like there's quite a few common comments in here about small cell stuff and and we did talk at the Planning Commission that small cell is is certainly something that we will need to to look at our right away ordinance gets into it a little bit our collocation agreement gets into it a little bit but this ordinance probably won't work for small cell stuff so we would we would need to to create something else for that one last comment for me the reason why I only talked about the height because I just got that ordinance that that meeting didn't have time to read it other than we got into height discussion the height discussion you said was that they verizon planned on doing I thought you said 150 foot tower is what they had told you so our recommendation at first was 120 feet and like we did lift that up and you said you could also do a one-time second tower on there going up an extra what wasn't an extension so an accession surah so we did but I did listen to your recommendation on that but just getting the ordinance that night you can see 28 pages yes I understand that so there was enough time to do yep and detailed discussion but you're gonna do it and I've done it with several cities is you got a together working group and you know you know take a couple of two-hour sessions to get through and discuss what the city wants and you made you've made plenty of notes on here too that we can look at and digest and and send it back to the proper channels that we use as well so and I appreciate that thank you Amir I just had one other comment with the initial packet that we got from you it didn't show any pictures of towers or what we're looking at what are they gonna look out like if they're going to be on a standalone Paul versus you know are they and that would help us a lot in making decisions because I did want to it thoroughly. [1:18:00] **Rick Adams**: I'd be willing to come back and work with that big bring pictures and talk about a different types and what a smiles for different types of small cell sites may look differently there's different types of macro sites but you know it just just like I said the language that I know I hate to beat up on someone else's work but it is flawed and it just needs to be looked at differently thank you thank you thank you I'm very pleased to the process and I was just going here so we'll wonderful did a complete motion with roading yeah it is done. [1:18:43] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: Okay going on to sixty amendments of ordinance 147 right-of-way ordinance first reading the they're kind of tied together I would say let's just do the same thing with this one and we'll bring them forward at the same time in the future all right motion to table 147 got a second. [1:19:15] **Council Member**: I'll second it. [1:19:18] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: Any questions all in favor say aye (Aye) opposed motion carried 6e in fighting quest to locate on water tower airFiber reached out to me and requested to locate an antenna on the water tower seems fitting to have this discussion now in this instance we already have an antenna up there I don't know that that we need to look at adding another antenna on top of the water tower and I'm fine with that. [1:19:55] **Ellissa Owens (City Administrator)**: I think it also competes against something that I I'd like to get off the ground a little bit yeah plus the usually you don't have to have separation on these antennas right they do interfere with each other so I I would suggest or no one that also to the council so don't need a motion or no no action on this or what I don't need any action just if somebody has a different thought then I just need to know about it to know if I need to do anything further we have concession consensus scuse me on no at this time yeah at this time you know yes all right and then I would say if anybody has any questions you know give me a call and and we can go over it further 6a we've already discussed moving on to 6g 2019 liquor licenses. [1:21:10] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: 86. [1:21:15] **Ellissa Owens (City Administrator)**: 86 all of the liquor license packets have been turned back in our 2 a.m. was are not 2 a.m. i'm sorry our Sunday sales was a pretty easy box to check and I think you filled out the paperwork for the brewery to do it so all of the Sunday sales paperwork has been filled out as well those can begin in 2019 but for the this portion we have everything that we need to approve 2019 liquor licenses. [1:21:40] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: Counselor motion? [1:21:45] **Council Member**: I have a question first what's this tool to 18 tobacco many minute Mart LCC the next one is tobacco license on the packet but basically at the same time we have all of our tobacco packets our tobacco license packets in minute Mart was I think this one was sold or just uh December 5th and they this the 2018 one is for the rest of 2018 so light can be transferred and then they also submitted one for twenty years old so we need a motion to approve both liquor and one at a time great yeah I'll make a motion we we proved that 2019 liquor licenses for the five entities listed. [1:22:40] **Council Member**: We have a second. [1:22:42] **Council Member**: Second. [1:22:45] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: Questions discussion all in favor say aye (Aye) opposed motion carried 6h 2018 tobacco licenses. [1:22:53] **Council Member**: I guess that would be 2018 and then 2019 as well I don't know if you want to separate out though the one 2018 and 2019 tobacco licenses do you have a motion? [1:23:05] **Council Member**: I saw move that we approve the 2018 and 2019 tobacco licenses. [1:23:10] **Council Member**: A second. [1:23:12] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: Any questions discussion all in favor say aye (Aye) opposed motion carried six i December 24th and 31st holiday schedule. [1:23:39] **Ellissa Owens (City Administrator)**: Both of these holidays fall on a Monday both of them we are off or we're scheduled to have off for a half a day the 24th I frankly just usually give everybody the whole day off anyways so I am wondering if we can do that for the 24th and the 31st seeing as they are half days and we're probably just not going to have anybody here council I can be here but I mean I can't be if you'd like me to be so what what departments are you talking to more just water vehicle via the library the I mean technically it it applies to all the city into all of the city employees but I mean police coverage we will still have police coverage and the liquor store will still be open will that change their pay then for the half-day if yeah because they will be given a an entire day off rather than a half a day off but I don't know we can't we can't separate it out by you can't you had like departments I do it by everybody for everyone would that affect the police contractor other than the fact that we're giving them a better benefit I mean I'm not gonna sign up an MoU or sign an MoU for it I think we'll just they would yeah they just receive yeah. [1:25:55] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: Very good counsel any discussion or emotions only I was singing I was just from this position is that it was it would be something negotiated through the contracts for those of those people and if you're using your discretion anyhow there's a only one group that that has a contract that we would that we would need to negotiate that with what yeah was you have and you've been using your discretion as a city administrator already which I believe you have the ability to do there are you I I would make the argument to that I you but I I don't know otherwise you can not make a decision and know where I'm going with us yes it's inherent with her job yes I would say it is obviously you already have that ability to do so unless somebody else disagrees so we leave it at that your discretion okay and I'd say the same thing as one of the last ones is if anybody wants to have a further conversation with that they can certainly give me a call and let me know all right moving on to sixty-eight ordinance 164 establishing franchise fee first reading. [1:27:20] **Ellissa Owens (City Administrator)**: This is the gas franchise fee natural gas franchise fee that I had brought up quite a while ago I've spoken with the school the hospital prison MSOP the school was definitely in support of what the hospital offered to write me a letter of support to approve this the prison and MSOP and frankly they they didn't really seem to care other than I think they they liked the idea of us starting it in July rather than immediately so that is in this as well as that it wouldn't start until the next fiscal year for them basically I went through all of this the last time but the benefit to a franchise fee is that it it goes to a hundred percent of Moose Lake rather than just the 30 percent that we can tax so if we did the same thing if we raised the exact same amount of money through property taxes it would be a much larger impact to residents than this is because we get a large chunk of the money from this franchise fee from the nonprofit entities or the state facilities or hospitals or schools or what have you that that are not currently paying property taxes I think that because it has two different fee structures as a part of it it does allow the residents to to contribute into this as well as the larger entities pay a much larger portion through usage where residents don't would not really see a difference from from usage so I think it covers all of the parties involved I did include other other communities that Minnesota Energy has that have franchise fees so you can see the difference in how they charge and then also communities down in the cities it is entirely up to each community it is they are set up a million different ways with an incredible amount of differences whether it's a monthly meter charge or a usage charge or anything so I do think that this works best for for our community because it it lowers the amount going towards or coming from residents so questions where counsel second movement will be next month and uh public hearing correct right thank you. [1:29:52] **Mayor Jim Michalski**: 6ka our DC representative request that is on page 95 just a our DC has a a member seat that is for Carlton County communities under 10,000 and they're seeking a representative so just informational for you all I sat in that position for a number of years and was there very interesting position and you do see a lot learn a lot in the region so if anyone's interest and that is a kind of interesting position I think the form to fill out is on page 96 moving on to 6l closed meeting pursuant to Minnesota statute and I think before we go into that are we gonna do you want to go through the rest of it I think we'll finish the rest of this and then we'll go into the closed portion right now there are seven reports and correspondence I think it turned in with no good on to the next one nothing under seven right now number eight committee and board meeting minutes a is a moose lake power of special meeting minutes September 11th 2018 ABS Moose Lake power regular meeting minutes September 18 2018 seeing as a new slate Planning Commission Commission meeting minutes of October 24th 2018 that D is the Moose Lake Economic Development Authority for October 10th 2018 I turned in the fire department but that will be in the next packet next packet under 9 under announcements a regular Moose Lake City Council meeting will be Wednesday December 12 at 4:00 p.m. right here Moose Lake Economic Development Authority Wednesday December 12th at 12 p.m. at the City conference room moose lake water like Commission regular meeting Tuesday November 20th 3 p.m. the water and light office Moose Lake housing you need evelopment Authority board December 10th 11:00 a.m. at the hillside Manor office Moose Lake Area Fighter District Tuesday December 11th 6:30 p.m. the Emergency Response Center Moose Lake Park Board meeting Monday December 3rd 6:30 p.m. right here library board 19th 1:00 p.m. in the city conference room I have one additional yes sir. [1:33:05] **Council Member**: The small area planning group that was working on putting together kind of a mini comprehensive plan for the land that the school owns out along 73 they are a RDC is going to have the group presentation our community presentation at what likely will be the school on December 6th at 6 p.m. there we can present kind of what that community or that committee was doing to the community and show kind of would what we would like the future development for that area to look like so I would invite everybody to come to that December 6th at 6 o'clock and we'll post more information about that and in the coming days I guess very good now at this time we're going to close meeting and do you do we need a motion at this dance need a motion to go into closed meeting which we roll you would meet here after a laser will move up motion a lot of closed me second all in favor say aye I suppose and I'm going to closed meeting.