them to parts of what we're approving tonight or we just move on for those that are here they can take it up themselves if they wish at that point so the first one is and i was going to ask this of our professional staff is can we make a recommendation for trash and restrooms facilities you had just indicated you can so let's throw that on the table first thing what does these what does the commission feel about requiring a trash service i would say it's a great idea except this application does not conform with city code if it did conform with the code then yes i think that there should be trash and bathrooms okay i think there should be uh provisions for trash collection and a trash storage i don't mean overflowing dumpsters visible to the neighborhood i'm talking about a trash room i think that's really important that trash not be stored on the site at any time where it's visible so there is a place for the tenants to to throw away garbage but it's not it's not a dumpster that's out in the yard that's visible and i think there should be a bathroom okay you know if the city council feels that a dumpster is acceptable to them then i believe we have something in our in our zoning ordinance about screening of dumpsters is that i'll just ask city staff that's correct we have a trash enclosure requirement correct yes but it wouldn't have to be fully enclosed it could just be screened on three sides well it would need a a gate it does have to be fully oh okay but not on the top correct okay yeah mr chairman members i just would just as far as thinking through this that also means just the neighbors that's a garbage truck coming and backing up with a porta-potty there's the smells that go along with the port-a-potty so those are other conditions that would be created by adding those as well i know but i think that the my personal feeling is that um the accumulation of garbage is just it's going to happen and well the the the lease if if the gentleman is is telling us everything the lease does not give the availability of restrooms and garbage they whatever they bring in they got to take out if not the lease is written that you know what i'm saying if we start giving all of these facilities we're turning this into a destination more than just a drop off and a pickup kind of mike's in my mind i underst i understand that dean but in my experience living here in the city in in the city of corcoran is that we become a destination for dumping i'm i'm picking up trash in my in my ditches between 30 and 10 every day yep we've taken pets to the humane society it's happening so one could say that you're condoning it and one could say that you're doing you're controlling it i'm from the control standpoint so i think it's going to happen um good point but i haven't i haven't run this kind of business i've just i'm i'm intrigued on how this works and i'd love to know more about these other places if there's no restroom there's no dumpsters i i don't want any added traffic into here any added noise than just dropping off i just i feel it's hard to believe that it is able to happen that way and especially being off the road and off the beaten path i just feel like people could dump stuff and no one's going to see them and they're going to get away with it right they're trusted so that's my thought well i i would agree you know the the honor system well i wish it was noble yeah but you know um and i think that was brought up with the with the um storage facility right down the road you'll find in in the vagrants that will live there there is certain crime to facilities that aren't fully protected and there is garbage and um you know even to the applicants you know own admission they put a bathroom in at their rockford facility um and it got used um the idea that no one is ever going to go there and have to go the bathroom i think is i think is is not realistic and that they'll get in there and that they'll get in their car and go to the you know go down to the you know up to the convenience store at 19 and 55 i think is not realistic i see him running around the corner to the bush they had to close that bathroom or they you know because it got too dirty people don't pick up after themselves so yes i don't disagree with anything you're saying but if we could address these conditions i won't turn the clock be more business to do yet too okay so where are we on the trash in the in the bathroom no yes you're not at it if i i if i'm out of line let me know i'd rather make a motion to deny this thing and see if we even have to talk about these resolutions and these ordinances and those kind of things the feeling on the on the commission do we agree taking this through or should we just say no to this it's a great idea but it's not the appropriate time is there a way to do that up front before we work on the resolutions and such mr chair okay so um is there any part of these uh resolutions that you would support as they are drafted no i mean we've done this before it's like we can we can support this this but we can't support that resolution and that's why i'm bringing it up initially of mr chair so kendra you want to walk through that what happened if the commission chose to recommend denial yes as uh you have limited discretion in the rezoning and the preliminary plot the site plan and the cup but you have a lot of discretion in the variances so if you find that the variance standards are not met there are variances required in order to plot the property so you should deny the variances recommend denial of the variances and then you would deny the other applications because you cannot um you cannot plot the property without a variance you cannot approve the site plan without variances so you would find that there's no practical difficulties for the variance and you would recommend denial that way you really have no standing for re denying the rezoning it's consistent with the underlying land use but i think if you're feeling as you want to deny that go ahead and i'll talk with the city attorney before the council you can go ahead and recommend that but you need to provide findings of fact for the four variances that you're denying just in general and then we can draft something up to share with the council this isn't allowed use in this district but there are setback variances and the lot variance is tied to the plot okay so you'd be talking about item d resolution improving the variance yes yes but but we could approve the zoning map and uh the rezoning you could but what's the point because it can't go ahead so if we go and take a vote on resolution d the variance if that is to disapprove then everything would be then we wouldn't take a vote on everything else yeah then you would recommend denial of the rest because you can't be accomplished without the variances so you would provide you know why you know why uh they don't have a practical difficulty for the side for the lot width and lot size requirements for the horseshoe bend property in the urban reserve district which is reducing the non-conformity and why the existing condition for a lot width on the i1 they don't have a practical difficulty in the front setback on the i1 district and then the municipal services that they should just wait till after the 2028 services are available okay so approving variances for the properties located at 2240 state highway 55 and 6315 horseshoe bend drive is that basically it yes mr chair okay so you should uh um the warehouses are fine and the now therefore the requested variances are denied based on the fact that their whatever you think the findings of fact for not meaning the variance are okay but without going through and making changes at this point we could accept a motion and a second to take a vote on it yes the motioner commissioner van kemp if you wish to make a motion to deny the variances you should provide findings just generally your idea about why you don't think the variance standards have been met i can wordsmith it if we get a second then we can vote on it if it passes all words method before the meeting okay but what if there is three to two support to recommend approval then someone should make a motion to recommend approval so that's why i say maybe we should go that way first and if it fails yep then we amend this variance without going through that yes mr cho you certainly could start with the order that's in the staff report you could start with the zoning map amendment and findings of fact for rezoning you can recommend approval of that and then you get to the site plan and cup the problem is you don't have a lot of discretion there so you want to move next to d so maybe you want to start with the resolution improving the variances somebody should move to approve those and see where that goes okay i'll make a motion to approve the variances okay second yield second okay so and and that is unamended correct the variances yes yes but i do want to make the recommendation that we had earlier about the bathroom and that but that doesn't have that it's not that is not this is just the four variances so i hope yes i believe that the findings do support for the variances so we have a motion and a second mr chair okay all those in favor of approving the variances say aye aye opposed nay okay so the uh it fails the motion fails okay [Music] so do you want us to uh amend the variance i don't think you're going to be able to do that tonight okay i think you should make a motion and say why you think the whoever doesn't believe they meet the variance standard should make a motion was generally why you think the the five variant standards in the ordinance have not been met those are in the staff report um on uh page starting on the bottom of page 12 and going into 13 you could use those five uh criteria and say why those variances aren't met and make a motion mr chair yes sir kendra where do i start again yeah on the bottom of page 12 there's five conditions so that in order to approve a variance an applicant must show that there are practical difficulties in complying with the ordinance that their conditions are unique to the parcel of land and not created by the landowner that the granting of the variants will not alter the essential character of the locality that the proposed variance would be in harmony with the general purposes and intent of the ordinance and the variance is consistent with the comprehensive plan and so you should just say you know i do not believe that the variance uh for the lot with standards on lot 2 the urban reserves district the lot width standards on lot 1 setback standards out lot one and the municipal services standards are met and here's why and i'm not prepared to provide any myself i i'm this is coming out of the blue i sometimes when i think there's a reason to deny i'll give you some guidance but this is not i'm not prepared to offer you any suggestions so you just gotta tell me why you think the variance standards haven't been met and we can smooth it out before the council meeting so the first one is variance for lot size with standards in the uar district for proposed lot not the variance available i have a question is there some reason why the commissioner needs to respond tonight versus collecting his thoughts and drafting a letter to you i don't see any urgency to explain reasoning when there's quite some time before the city council meeting i think the reason we primarily for the public record yeah i'm okay with it i just i wanna i just need you to give me something to make a motion you've you've crafted many things for us and i appreciate it very much so we wanted the reason it's the reason it's non-conforming right now is because it's been this way everything has been done it was before the ordinance was written out here on this property or were just wanting to get rid of his chicken coops is because the lot is 1.64 acres where the ordinance requires a 20 acre lot size he was a conforming lot when the lot was created i think in the 70s it's no longer conforming because of the new zoning district so it's too small today it was fine when it was created now it's too small we want to make it bigger i might so if there was no application in front of us we would not be trying to re redo this we would not be doing a variance or anything we would just let it continue to be non-conforming an easier one i think we can do it this way uh the variance for municipal services there is no practical difficulty i there's you uh might say i recommend denial of the variants from the municipal services requirement there is no practical difficulty he's in a later phase he should just wait till the sewer and water come exactly what i wanted to make exactly what happened and as a result the other applications are null and void that is maybe one way you could approach it and you took the words out of my mouth kendra i appreciate it while i understand the direction and what's wanted i'm very much i love the idea what this would do in the border it would be for the residential properties to the north it's premature it's whatever you said yep premature development we have a second on that motion i'll second that so are we taking another vote on the approving variances or we're disapproving now your motion on the table is to move to deny the ver the only motion is to move to deny the variance for the municipal services waiver and then there'll be a motion after this but if this motion passes i'll walk you through your next step okay all right we have a second to deny this variance number five mr lanternman seconded it already that's what i said oh sorry i thought you're asking for one i apologize no we we have a motion in a second all right all those in favor of denying the variance based on item five say aye all right opposed name okay so you have denied the variance to allow this lot to develop without sewer and water or you've recommended denial let me be clear this is a recommendation of the council you've recommended denial as a result the rest of the items cannot go forward so you could i think it would be clean to say we recommend denial of the rezoning site plan cup preliminary plat and three remaining variances based on the finding that they cannot proceed without the first variance i just said that yes thank you okay that's why we pay her and we don't get paid she can read right she can read more this is another vote then on the approving variances or denying the denial of the variances for the properties this is denying the variances the rezoning the site plan the cup and the platt the whole nine yards yep okay commissioner varenkamp said all of that just to go on record thank you all right do we have a motion to deny to recommend denial to the city council of a b c d and e i'll make that motion okay oh second shoe like okay all those in favor of recommending denial say aye aye opposed nay okay deny is approved three two okay so what happens now this goes to the city council and they could uh still approve that's right as presented by staff report yep the city council will review this on the august 26th meeting and they will get the planning commission recommendation uh and uh the staff recommendation as a second option and who is on the 26th i am okay and uh it might be helpful if if one of you gentlemen could also be in attendance if there's any questions absolutely be there okay and mr chair just if i could speak one more time sure um for the land owners property owners in the residential area to the north of this whole section all the way over to 19 things are changing stay up contact city staff our planners they'll give you those plants they've been plans for a long time again my beliefs and thoughts are based off of city water city sewer there this in my mind is premature so next time i see it it's like yeah we understand i don't want any surprises you got it three or four days before we got this thing so um thank you guys for your input tonight you can stick around for a little longer personal invite that's punishment all right everybody uh to keep things moving along then does anybody need a break this should be short this should be short okay uh let us move on to uh item 6c public hearing consider amendment to section 1030.020 the zoning ordinance result regarding accessory structures and the staff report please thank you mr chair um short staff report we are proposing an amendment to the accessory buildings section of the ordinance 1030.020 to allow properties to request a cup to exceed sidewall height regardless of lot size this was the discussion in 2011 when the ordinance was amended at the june 3rd meeting the commission reviewed a request for cups to allow that the planning commission did recommend approval but at the meeting commissioner atlanta men stated that the code prohibited such given the language that was in the code we said we'd review it with the city attorney we did that and we presented the issue at the june 24th council meeting where we also presented proposed language changes we do agree that the language was contradictory to the intent of the amendment in 2011 and so we are recommending changes the council did discuss it that night and also had a conversation about other amendments to the code that they might like to see but did direct staff to focus on correcting this item only at this time as they are trying to prioritize a number of different ordinance amendments so the change to the ordinance is quite minor actually deleting some language in a section g and h that was conflicting with the language in subdivision 5. the council directed staff to hold a public hearing tonight and we do recommend approval of the ordinance amendment and the resolution approving findings of fact for those edits it is a public hearing we did not receive any comments on this item okay thank you um at this point we'll open up for the public hearing are you here for this public hearing no just for fun at this point for those is there anyone online are those two left online who are not either the mayor or councilmember nichols if you'd like to comment please use the raise hand function and uh no one at this time mr chair all right i'll take a motion to close the public hearing soul move second camp all right all those in favor of closing the public hearing say aye aye opposed all right public hearing is now closed all right commission discussion and recommendation um you know i think as as she had mentioned uh for those um and i know commissioner lanternman when we gave our annual report our goals and objectives for this upcoming year i included also some would like to consider some changes to this specific section of the zoning ordinance and that was specifically with regard to accessory buildings on 10 or more acres of land that were required to be just for agricultural purposes only i'd like to see that particular portion and in this that would be item h four and uh i talked with kendra about it uh yesterday and even though that was on our list and and i'd i'd like to see that addressed um it's not proper i don't think at this point to uh include that in this um the focus of this is entirely to try to get this glitch that we had with uh the wall height on anything less than 10 acres so um just let it be noted in the record that when the um when fuller you know a more thorough review of this uh comes in again that's something i'd like to see address so that's all i have for this anybody else yes sir thank you mr chairman state law provides i believe that the planning commission the city council or an applicant can ask for the city's code to be amended i question procedurally whether it is appropriate for the city staff to have of its own accord petitioned to amend when there is an active application i don't think it's it's unlawful i just think that the optics of it look like the city is advocating for this applicant i would not expect rules to be rewritten for me especially if i did not ask for them to be rewritten now believe me in substance i am for i am all for making our code simpler easier to understand and most importantly consistent so i do not have an issue with the amendment in its form uh i only want to get on the record that i think the procedure here seems unfair to the residents who voice concerns about this application so thank you mr chair isn't it not true that the applicant is still going to have to come before this body this commission again to get approval of his barn after this takes part no you recommended approval pending the city attorney's review of the code so it uh it will go to the city council at if after if this ordinance amendment is passed by the city council okay and once it's passed by the city council then retroactively mr dornsbach will well with the submission of the required information and and details that were part of his original application he'll be issued a building permit yes his application is still active yes and it was forwarded from this body with a recommendation of approval with also the caveat that we reviewed with the city attorney which we did and brought to the council and said yes there is a concern in the council said well don't bring the dornsbach application forward let's make changes to the zoning ordinance which is what's in front of you tonight this will go to the council on the 26th if they pass that then they can act one way or the other regardless of what they do with this then they can act on the dornsbach application okay so he still has to go he won't come before this commission again back to you no okay mr chairman yes brad michelle that's we went to the council on june 24th and got direction from the city council to make this amendment okay but you're correct we would typically need direction from the council okay any other questions or discussion sure why can't we change four well i think because there wasn't really given any staff did not talk about direction about that yeah i mean there might be some things that you know unforeseen other than just simply striking it you know it should probably go through a more formal review and i think that would be fair i'm all about eliminating as much waste but if if that's the case and my understanding is yeah and my understanding is city council does want a more thorough review of this entire this entire section okay and just for the commission so we know uh the draft 2022 budget which will go in front of the council next week for the first look actually we'll recommend including a 20-hour week part-time administrative assistant for the planning department if you can call it that much and what that would happen is that would really free up a lot of time for natalie because right now she has to do publications and all the paperwork that goes along minutes and everything else so freeing up essentially 20 hours of her time to really focus on dig into the ordinances and the codes and everything so cool our goal is to as much as we thought bringing natalie on would free that up we've got just that much more busy and so we need more help to be able to get past that threshold okay all right any other further discussion or questions no mr chair i'll make a motion to approve amending the ordinance of the text of title nine of the corcoran city code related to accessory building standards as written mr did i say that right just to clarify are you moving about both the ordinance amendment and the resolution which you certainly can do together yes i'll do them together thank you okay there is two got it all right do i have a second i'll second that all right all those in favor of uh recommending approval of the ordinance amendment and the resolution approving findings the facts say aye aye opposed okay motion is passed okay item 7a planning project update anybody have any questions or comments i have just one thought i'd like to just find out if it's possible um when we look at some of our biggest developments and this isn't specific to any one of these and not but um [Music] i'm just curious to know we we have some developments where there has been you know a lot of earth moving changing the landscape we've seen field mistakes i'm just wondering do you know i'm under the assumption that somebody's going out there to make sure i know that we had some trees that were cut down before is somebody going out to verify that this is done and so if a developer comes seeking changes and amendments can we get some sort of feel as to how they're doing with compliance of what we've set up in the first place or is that just a an idea completely out of left field it makes no sense no one makes complete sense in a couple things one we do have i think nearly two full-time people in corcoran these days bouncing from project to project to project because there's so much going on so there is somebody out there but their big projects can't be everywhere at once and things do happen i can tell from the staff standpoint we feel the same way we would love to you know take past mistakes and hold you accountable in the future what we're stuck with at the staff level and use the commission level is using the rules in front of you now if there's flexibility requested where there's lots of discretion i think that's very much applicable in my mind for allowing flexibility so we try to balance that of bringing and we have it's not necessarily taking a shot at them it kind of is if people come in with flexibilities we'll kind of talk about past issues but our goal for the most part is to keep you all with uh here's what's in front of you and the flexibilities that you have but yeah i hear what you're saying completely because we feel the same way well i mean this is why i asked the question you know they're asking for forgiveness instead of permission up front is what they're doing at times and at times it most it's it can be a sub of a sub of a sub but it's still under their approval so it's on them is there a tally going up on mistakes from certain developers or anything like that and say what are you gonna do is there's something we can say then what are you gonna do to prevent this from happening in this new development do you know what i'm saying are we are we keeping a scorecard related to those mistakes or not no we need another no i mean we have 20 hours out of a person there we have a professional staff who are aware of it we have weekly development team meetings so every wednesday at 10 o'clock all of our staff gets together and talk about each development what's going on where and then ideally what we do is tighten up our approvals so next time we'll add a condition of this because last time you didn't do that so our scorecard really is tightening up our development contracts and our resolutions so it doesn't happen again gotcha cool and on that that same topic is there uh one number that people citizens residents can call if they do have complaints about construction or something for example i think the latest newsletter from corcoran stated that rush creek reserve was going to keep their time of operation between 7 am and 7 pm and it's often times gone beyond 8 o'clock at night and i don't know if that's something that i can tell other neighbors that call city hall they're they're starting to tell you that that information has not gotten to city hall they're starting over there before 6 a.m also no one's said anything they said yellow too so okay yes we need to know that so we can divorce it okay thank you sir you know maybe one solution would be to park that great big um community service van and welcome them all to a city you know there you go event and uh you know maybe that's one way to let them know that the city's around so just a thought great big van just sitting there may as well use it yeah i mean actually actionable complaints are still the best oh of course how come uh item seven isn't coming before the commission qd amendment beauty amendments only go to the council that's in the code uh that did uh go to council last night does he say i watched that what happened to cook lake highlands that was not did not come before city council on last meeting it did not uh we were we thought we would only have three council members and there were items that needed four and so she asked to table it to the meeting next week next week thursday oh gosh that's me okay can i attend remotely or must i yep okay so uh amending a pud just goes back to the city council minor modifications go back to the city council and minor modifications are defined under the code um just generally it's a ten percent rule and so these qualified for the minor beauty modification and went to the council okay ten percent of what well i'm just i don't have the code open in front of me but it's just generally a ten percent rule so generally for example if i have a 50 000 square foot building and i want to put a 4 500 square foot addition on it i can do that with a minor amendment it has to go to the council still can't be administratively approved by staff but it can go to the council it's not a full amendment a major amendment does come back through the plan and and remanding that back to council that's in our code yes and so what are they what are they actually they want to modify the pd approvals to allow garage forward home design even for the homes that exceed the percentages of garage on the front elevations can you recall what the votes were most items were denied but i was going to say i thought that was denied well almost everything was tonight yes they had a sign request to allow larger temporary real estate signs that was denied and now leading to code enforcement for every other development town that's violating it yeah i heard a big thank you when that came up they asked for flexibility on garage forward design that was denied they asked for some architectural changes to our architectural standards to have some flexibility the bulk of that was denied there was one modification for this pud that said on a front elevation you need three different materials or colors and we did approve at least for lennar not changing to the code but allowed a change for lennar that says shutters and vents can count of a contrasting color can count as a third material um and so that will be probably the amendment we see come through they asked after they got a preliminary plot approval you can't go to the watershed until you get preliminary plant approval as a result of the watershed the watershed counted one of the large wetlands in the northwest part of the site they said it was impacted therefore filled so the they had room that was buildable so they asked to be able to build three lots there and on the southeast corner the watershed said there was a larger pond and so they lost a lot there so they asked uh for an increase of two lots from 549 lots in the development of 551 and the council did approve that um so why aren't these wetlands delineated during well they're doing how do you run over a wetland and then going on and then ruin it well it was it was approved it was uh when the temp went out uh for the final uh mitigation i'm not there but what i can do what i can do my recollection was that on the third material i thought we struck allowing a contrasting color as counting as a third material with the wetland i believe when they went to uh wetland review with elm creek watershed they determined that some of the area would not actually be wet enough to count as wetland and they asked for permission to put lots there instead uh there was some spirited debate as to whether that should be allowed ultimately it did carry on a three one but you only allowed one you went from one five forty nine to five fifty not five fifty one uh no i went to five fifty one did you i was here and i i forgot as well i was distracted so i i do i i advocated for it to just be a replacement but ultimately i believe it went to 551. so we were supposed to item 12 bechtold farm they were supposed to be scheduled today but they obviously that was going to be a public hearing i assume they had submitted and we tentatively thought it would be but after uh reviewing a number of issues with the flat they are not ready to go we do have a meeting with them next week to see a new concept and we'll see when it's ready and complete we'll send it to you okay very good thank you all right anybody else with anything no okay i'll make a motion to adjourn um we have a ways to go yet we have item uh item 7b reschedule planning commission training i apologize uh i had the fishing bug i got it once in a rare opportunity to go up someplace on a cancellation and so and it came very last minute so [Music] i i assume it was cancelled obviously because was it was it because just the meme and i enjoyed our lunch and then we canceled it um so and council member or commissioner lanternman was online we're going to send out a survey and try to find another date it's very difficult to find a date that works so we're going to send out another when natalie's back next week we'll send out another survey okay so we don't need to give you a date right now okay item 7c city council report counselor nichols hello again everyone yes sir what you got for thank you very much for your service tonight uh i wanted to echo what dean said at the kickoff on the um initial topic tonight we really do appreciate all of your volunteer service for the city giving us your opinions and your your detailed thoughts on the impacts of these proposals to the city um it's definitely a value add for the council to have all of you on this commission vetting everything in addition to the work that the parks folks do uh vetting applications as well so once again thank you very much for all of your effort and time that goes into this review uh in terms of items that i i thought were of interest to you i would imagine you'd want to hear some color commentary on the bellwether and amberly edition uh so there was a request for some flexibility on architectural standards that was rejected for the amberly portion of that development for the bellwether portion we allowed them to operate under the same conditions as we previously approved for the bulk of bellwether as previously implemented we had a lot of discussion on this one about the size and configuration of the park so if you remember the park in the bellwether amberly area is largely surrounded by homes so we had some discussion as to whether that was suitable and that the size was a bit small but ultimately it was approved as planned uh on the tavara side we already had some discussion on that uh i would i guess raise one item that i don't know that we covered too much in that last discussion uh there was a request for a 10 foot by 10 foot sign to be allowed until most of the lobster had sold we'd end up proving a sign but not nearly as large as was requested we kept it to the 32 square feet that's currently allowed in code and that's something that council directed staff to enforce on other developments as well so there are other signs similar to that that had been erected without a permit and we need to go back through and make sure that those signs are conforming uh there was a lot of good discussion on three rivers park district's proposal for the diamond lake regional trail corridor it's uh one of the first trails i believe that they've got where they will try to accommodate snowmobile trails so we'll access parallel to the main paved trail so that that's i think a testament to the involvement of the snowmobile club and commissioner schultz who advocated for that when they first proposed their children to the city um so that was approved i think with a very broad base of support in the city and then lastly we did have council member minos thomas resigned and we have opened a vacancy so we're looking for applicants to be appointed until uh the next midterm election so that would serve through i believe that would be december of 2022 so if you know qualified candidates who will be interested i know they're actively soliciting applications if anybody is listening feel free to submit that to brad okay any questions or discussion for our commissioner councilmember nichols i wanted to i wanted to thank you guys um i i stepped through the corridor conversations with maple grove with three rivers park district and identifying a corridor give or take a mile east a mile west um it was great that you guys identified and agreed with a corridor it's just i i hope everybody understands it's going to take a long time to get that north-south corridor through corcoran and understand as development happens it's a conversation that needs to be made and i wanted to uh really give an atta boy to the three rivers park district to dig in as early as they have with this when we did it maple grove it was a nightmare to get it through town but uh as maple grove benefits you can now travel from eden prairie all the way up to rapids dam with the three rivers park district corridor or or trail which includes city sidewalks all of those things and there's there's some great things that go on there and i think this amenity in corcoran once it's completed in 20 or 30 years is going to be pretty nice for whoever lives here at that time so i wanted to thank you for at least identifying that corridor and giving some direction and and understanding that the planning or the parks group is going to have that um we're going to have those options to be able to do that instead of park dedication fees those kind of things it just gives us a whole bunch of more tools to really make our community even better than it any of us plan so thank you guys absolutely but that's the sentiment that was echoed at many of the night to unite celebrations that we toured earlier this week so i have multiple people in multiple parties come up and express how thankful they were that we're starting to get trails uh into the neighborhoods and i think once we start to link those together and form a real network uh the value is going to um really jump out at people who might not have appreciated having that kind of amenity before given that it's so new to parker but it's absolutely a major value added improves the quality of life for everybody very cool good job all right great that's great news i like the snowmobile part absolutely okay any other questions or comments for councillor nichols all right let's move on then to uh 7d any other business okay item eight any changes in the liaison calendar uh meredith you are up uh next or on thursday next week i'm up the week after that and then commissioner lanternman yep i'm good virtual is just fine with your video off it's just fine great okay do um that's one question are we expecting that we're going to go to masked only or that we'll go back to zoom i i know this is a moving target day-to-day but do you guys have any plans based on what you know today no we don't um you know we still encourage those who are not vaccinated to mask um and really that's what we're well first and foremost encouraging everyone who can get vaccinated um and those who choose not to recant to mask up we have a better environment than we had before you know whether anything like this changes i don't believe we will i think we do offer the virtual options so those who are not comfortable can choose to not be here unfortunately for those voting we actually would have to declare another emergency to allow votes to be cast virtually so that's where the problem exists with you wallace um but we could essentially have nobody else besides the commission in the room but um that's something you want to discuss right now there's no plans to change okay numbers are going up so in terms of being the liaison for a meeting if the commissioner so chooses to stay at home and go on zoom again they're they're always encouraged to speak up on an issue that came before this commission natalie or yourself whoever is running the zoom portion we just raise our hand and we'll get access that's a great question i think what is helpful since it's hard to watch is using the raised hand function if you really want to participate that really gives jessica for council meetings so a good sign that you do want to talk um that is really helpful virtually because they don't always just hey do you got anything to say no we you know raise our hand you can't wait for the back room okay so everybody understand if you if you want to do this you know remotely um yep okay that's good questions mr chair if i just had one quick comment excuse me um i just wanted to mention how proud i am of our law enforcement department here i'm former law enforcement my uh you know my company we're the crime lab for the hennepin county sheriff's i spend a lot of time with law enforcement and i'll tell you what our department uh carries a lot of weight for uh for a city with only six thousand people okay uh our chief has a lot of respect in the twin cities and you know in this day and age we're quick to condemn and point fingers and criticize and i just think that it was appropriate for me to just go on record and i'd like to thank the chief i'd like to thank the entire police department because they they bring us a lot of good attention that most people don't even know about so i'm i'm very proud uh you know to say i live in corcoran and i'm very proud of my police department so i just wanted to throw that out there yeah well that it will we'll all well sentiment is the same here of course i i wouldn't talk to them nearly as much if it weren't for the fact that i was on this commission uh when they uh routinely deliver my packet uh i mean i've sat out in my driveway getting bit it's a guitar thing that you don't talk to yeah i know i know you know what conditions are you doing exactly but yeah we we uh we talk for sometimes 45 minutes at a time um same here and and they're great conversation they're all good people and and uh i certainly uh feel safe and and uh you know respect everything they do for us as well and it's it's really cool that zeke is getting back in that that's really neat we found one of our officers is gonna jump on board and uh he delivered two packets of ghosts so that was neat to see so cool good well our chief is a thought leader and i just wanted to go on record that everyone here knows that okay great thank you um well at this point uh item nine a german i'll take a motion to adjourn this meeting i'll make that motion i i made it about an hour ago accidentally sorry i didn't know i wasn't trying to be flip i thought we were done oh that's quite all right all right we have a second from commissioner barry all right all those in favor to adjourn say aye aye aye opposed this meeting is adjourned [Music] thanks oh everybody yeah yeah good night