e e e e e e e e e e good morning we're going to start off this morning um with the invocation by Pastor Jean carlsward of The Crossings Mayfair Church followed by the Pledge of Allegiance and the Oklahoma pledge at the request of Abby Stewart Girl Scout Troop 2313 please rise as you are able thank you this is uh quite the honor um if you would join me all in prayer Heavenly Father gracious and loving God uh we come before you today humbled and grateful for the opportunity to gather as a community we thank you for our city leaders the men and women who have taken on the noble responsibility of guiding and stewarding the city we recognize the weight of their duties and ask for your wisdom which comes from above to be poured over their hearts and their minds as they lead father we ask for compassion for our computer our community for our leaders that they may always seek to serve with a spirit of empathy and Care in the face of differing opinions May there be a desire for Unity that acknowledges and respects our differences let truth always be spoken in love and may our leaders approach each issue with a heart of curiosity seeking understanding rather than judgment we value them Father and at times we may even offer admonishment but we pray that it is always with the hope of a fostering growth and discernment as the Apostle Paul once encouraged Timothy and Ephesus May our leaders here today remember the aim of our charge is love that issues from a pure heart a good conscience and a sincere faith I pray that this Same Love and purity of heart and sincere faith would trust and would be placed as a foundation above all or all their decisions today father as they lead our city may they draw near to you as your word promises Us in James that when we draw near to you you will draw near to us may your presence be felt in their work and may your hand guide them in every step bless them Father make your face to shine upon them make May their efforts be a blessing to our city and may that continue into a spirit of unity compassion and Justice multiply across the state for our nation and throughout the world for with you nothing is impossible we ask these things in the name of Jesus whom you've placed above all things that he may Advocate before you now on our behalf through prayer we pray amen please join me in the Pledge of Allegiance I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all I salute the flag of the state of Oklahoma its symbols of peace unite all people thank you Pastor and thank you Abby we certainly appreciate you being here today next up is we will call this meeting to order first item up is going to be from the office of the mayor uh will be the notification for council member ston Cipher to assume the role of vice mayor for a six-month period beginning October 13th if I could get a motion and the item passes moving on to um there are no items from Council so moving on to item five city manager reports thank you madam vice mayor I um we have several items that are on here the only item that I was going to speak to is just looking at the sales tax report um we do have our annual performance report and the council priority report that has performance measures within that as well um those reports are in there if there's any questions you have or anything you'd like us follow up with staff we're glad to do that um on the sales tax we do see our our Trend continuing that we've seen sales and use tax uh declining it's been a little bit up and down we've been on this continuing trend of LLY right now um we've got we're down $3 million between sales and use tax and the general fund we're $3 million below our targets below our budget so something we're definitely monitoring closely October check we've got preliminary numbers on that and the numbers are not good and so we're just monitoring all this keeping an eye on it but it's definitely something that if this continues the trend you know U Russell Evans our Economist had told us the first half of the year we would see slower growth or decline and then in the second half of the year we should see that that rebound we're staying in contact with him um communicating on this still believe that we're in a good place with this we had projected 2% growth and um year-to date we're about 2% below uh Target on sales tax so just something we've got to keep an eye on and monitor to see if we make need to make any adjustments in the year um but right now I feel like we're still in a good position we'll keep monitoring that we'll report back to the council and keep an eye on that and that's all the items that I have thank you next up uh General Council proceedings we can take one vote for items A and B and that passes moving on to the request for uncontested continuances Mr city manager yes we have a few items on today starting on page 19 with item 11 S1 unsecured structures all of these items will be stricken from the agenda item C 47 477 fwn Run Drive the owner has secured item G 4901 South Walker Avenue the owner has secured an item J 1416 Northwest 30th Street the owner has secured on abandoned buildings continuing on page 19 11 T1 um there's two items to strike from the agenda they're also on the previous list and so they're St for the same purposes item a 4717 fawn run drive and then item F 1416 Northwest 30th Street thank you very much all right we will move to item 8A the revocable permit with the river sport foundation for the holiday River Parade and we have Trisha Downey signed up to tell us a little bit more about it good morning I'm Trisha Downey I'm the national events manager at Riverport I have two things on the docket so I'm going to address them both if that's okay the first is the holiday River Parade which is the annual parade where we have floats on the river with uh lights and just a really exciting atmosphere uh Saturday November 16th uh the event features pre-show activities at about 6:30 um um I can't confirm all of them but we did get a giant Nutcracker person on stilts and other kind of festive fun things that I've never seen before so I'm looking forward to that part about 7 o'clock we have our water skiing elves which do a spectacular performance um they also have one of those tube things that shoots guys up in the air of with water I I just can't wait to see it that's really fun uh followed by the boat boats which is always fun um the Oklahoma River Cruiser always takes part and has our Grand Marshall so that's about 7:45 and the finale will be fireworks well after the boats leave the water of course we have fireworks and a laser show and um that's the the super exciting thing last year we had about 6,000 people come from the city here so it's uh quite the Extravaganza and we hope you can all attend and if you want to put in a float float um just give me a call and I'll make sure that we got a a boat for you to decorate the other event on my docket is the yrl fall 2024 part of river sports mission is to provide opportunities for youth who not who may not otherwise have a chance to be part of a sport and River Sports youth rowing League gives Oklahoma City middle schoolers and high schoolers an opportunity to be part of a team um the schools only have to provide a a chaperon someone who can communicate and River sport provides the training the coaches the boats the uh the time on the water all the equipment and um each this year's participating schools are asec Charter School Boys and Girls Club of Metro OKC schools Christo Ray High School midell schools which is a combination of Dell City Midwest City and Carl Albert Mission Academy Oklahoma School of Science and Mathematics Southeast High School and Middle School St John Bosco Institute Mustang area Rowing Club high school and middle school Santa Fe South putham Heights John Rex middle school so any Oklahoma school metro area is welcome to join um it is free for 90% Title One schools and the schools I mentioned only five are actually paying we expect about 150 young athletes to bring an additional 300 Spectators and um friends and family it's it's quite the scene um if you really want to see the hard work of kids who aren't going to make the basketball team or don't have time to do basket or baseball 247 this is really the thing you should come and watch um it's particularly my favorite because the kids are beinging with pride parents are coming brothers and sisters older brothers and sisters come grandparents they're just smiling all the way so it it really is the best feeling there's no fear for admissions so um if you want to attend this one it starts at 3:00 on November 9th is there any questions thank you Miss Downey councilwoman nice this both of these are in your word we're on item a though the holiday parade and uh I just want to say real quick uh if you haven't seen the skiing elves it's worth a trip it's worth a trip uh they're pretty entertaining at that holiday parade so I would agree and I don't think I've ever seen a Santa up in the air with a jet water jet so I think that's very exciting as well um and I I figured if with being up here that it was something happening at riversport so very excited to support uh the holiday River Parade and I do also hope everyone uh will just come experience that if you haven't before and uh supporting our youth so with that I will move for approval and the item passes and we can take up Item B now as well and I'll move for approval of that as well and the item passes next up is item C the revocable RightWay use permit with the downtown Oklahoma City partnership to hold Bricker treat October 28 we have Patrick suan signed up to tell us more hi thank you for having me Council I'm Patrick Sullivan with Downtown OKC the district manager of Bricktown I'm here to tell you about Bricker treat on uh brick Town's Premier Halloween event on Monday October 28th from 400 to 7: parents and Guardians are invited to bring their children out for a fun night of spooky entertainment and trick-or-treating we have over 40 businesses we've partnered with to operate as candy stops and we'll have fun entertainment options such as spooky backdrops for photo ops um as well as some characters that'll roam around the area for the parents that are here we'll have Bluey Spider-Man uh Barbie will make an appearance and we will also have uh Ghostbusters uh we're expecting about a turnout of 177,000 people this year based on historical uh foot traffic data and we'll have an information booth on Mickey Manel with maps uh to hand out uh all the candy stops and uh most importantly uh safety is our number one Focus uh going into this year uh we've partnered with or we're working closely with uh PD we have ambassadors that'll operate uh that'll be uh directing traffic at Major intersections and we're going to ensure that the evening is fully staffed and prepared for the amount of traffic that's going to come through awesome thank you Mr Sullivan councilwoman nice yes thank you Mr Sullivan are you the new district manager I am I've been with with Downtown OKC since March okay well welcome thank you um and I was asking Joe best I said I wonder which Barbie is going to make an appearance so we're going to have Malibu Barbie and pink Barbie we have two Barbies actually okay and which Ghostbusters group uh I I know there are a handful of them I'm a little bit newer to discern the the different groups but we have the one that was recently at uh uh Plaza Fest they have a giant I've seen that one inflatable we weren't sure if it was the all girls or the all fellas I think this one may be all fellas okay those were very important questions we needed answered today so um looking forward to this and again welcome to uh Bricktown look forward to talking with you soon thank you likewise I'll move for approval by the way thank you and the item passes moving on to item D re revocable RightWay use permit with the fmd association to hold the Oklahoma City Farmers Market District fall festival o October 27th and we have Francis Smith signed up to speak hi thank you for having us uh today Council my name is Francis Smith I'm a new district manager for the Farmers Market District we are are super excited to talk today about our second districtwide official second districtwide event since we've become an official district with the city so we're very proud of this this is going to be the um Fall Fest it'll be October 27th noon to 6 we're going to be closing down from Klein to Ellison on second officially the rest is private property so it'll be a full City Block actually closed um from 2 to 3D and then clein Ellison uh we've got six sponsors on this event we're happy to report um we have almost 15 vendors for this um this will be outdoor vendors and indoor vendors we have seven food trucks and we're going to have a new we try to include an educational component for each of these events uh this time we're doing local cooking demos so we'll have three providers um doing a how to shop local cook local eat local kind of component so they'll be sourcing locally um and we'll promote those businesses that they Source from they'll be doing a quick cook um small bite dish and we'll be providing about a 100 meals for free that we're sponsoring um we'll have a dedicated Kid Zone upstairs in the historical um Farmers Market public or Farmers Public Market building which is established in 1928 as we all know um upstairs we'll have a bounce house pumpkin bowling I had to look this up if you've never done it it looks really really cool um we'll also have a dedicated kind of dance party area for the kids a bounce house and then a whole craft station that'll include paint a pumpkin and a few other activities um we'll have a petting zoo that's sponsored by Chester's Party Barn uh we'll be doing a touch of truck involving the police and fire and then we've also encouraged all the vendors all 15 vendors and and as well as all the businesses in the district to do a kind of trick-or treat component so um the kids can come by and trick-or treat the vendors we're encouraging costumes um both from the patrons and all of our participants within this District that should be fun um as we move outside we'll have a stage set up with three bands it's a kind of a country Bluegrass theme we're going for we've worked with these bands before they're fantastic um most of the businesses in that area are going to be open and involved with the festival they're also involved with the events committee which is newly started um we have a raffle last event that we did in June we raised a considerable amount of money for the nonprofit portion of the district doing that raffle and all the businesses contributed with that um and I know there's more but I think that's a good compilation of what we're doing I thank you guys so much for having me is there any questions or six I don't have any questions I'm just excited to see um so much activity and recognizing that it is a huge feat to pull off so um congratulations on another another year of this event and continued growth for the district so I'm happy to move for approval yeah thank you and the item passes thank you Miss Smith thank you and now we will recess the council meeting and convene as the Oklahoma City Municipal facilities Authority where we can take items a through M with one vote and that passes and we will adjourn the OC MFA and reconvene as the Oklahoma City public property Authority where we can take items a through C is one vote Yes and the item passes and and we will adjourn the ocpa and reconvene is the council meeting where we arrive at the consent docket um I'd like to request a separate vote on item d as in dog and item BQ did you say BQ yes way moment please councilman hankle I'm sorry okay go ahead AC AC for comment or for a separate vote comment for now okay um yes item Au we do have a presentation scheduled on that one as well okay great thank you hearing no others we can uh just start at the top and work our way through if that's okay uh so that will be item D councilwoman Hammond has requested a separate vote on this item U before we um i' just like some discussion just some understanding as far as the estimated increase of of what is happening as far as why we're paying more just curious since it's been brought up yeah I know Chief basy is here and I believe deputy chief uh Dominic Brown is here and they can come in and speak to this um so if we could move maybe move on to the other items and come back to that one you okay with that yeah that's fine with me ac all right so we'll move on then to item AC then Charlie um Madam vice mayor yes ma'am the chief is here oh there we go well we will go back to item D then thank you coun good morning so Chief this was on item D on the unmanned aerial vehicles and um that if we could just get an update on how many we're adding what we're doing with this okay um let me introduce Captain Jason Buster from police uh it he can give you the number on what we're adding and I can speak more to what we're doing with it right so what we exactly we're adding is a joint project with fire and police um we're looking at doing what Chula Vista started in 2018 New York City San Francisco is doing and that's drones is a first responder being able to put eyes on a scene with the Drone as a call comes out to let fire and police know what's going on there before we arrive and as especially as fires move into to take over the mental health cuse it be helpful for them to see what's happening and have OverWatch as they're dealing with things and less than the likely of us having to get involved it also lets us know what's going on there to have the right resources on scene to make sure we cover what we need to cover and handle the call the right way so Jason do you know how many we're adding with this what's that do you know how many we're adding with this we're adding 10 over the next 10 every year over the next five years so total of 50 one on we're planning on putting them on the fire stations there's 30 of those oh I'm sorry Captain what's our current inventory we currently have 38 drones in use and then my my next question um while we're on this as far as the footage that we do capture how long do we keep that footage forever okay thank you I say that now I mean that's what the retention is currently is we don't delete those type of videos okay thank you um to Echo um Captain buser's thoughts getting there first um and giving us the ability to provide the right resources and respond correctly for police and fires invaluable um as far as just being able to timing is everything when it comes to fire medical emergencies crisis calls um knowing what we're dealing with while in route um is um gives us life-saving opportunities to provide resources in a much timely fashion thank you for that so my my next question to you then would be uh with us adding this would those strictly be for those types of incidents because the reason I ask that now is outwardly thinking um and observing when we have events particularly uh within Northeast Oklahoma City I look up and I see them and there's in my opinion the question is okay why why what are we doing um when we already at this time one particular time we were walking um for a March and we already had three police officers escorting us down the street so my question was already why do we have drones above us watching us too so just curious um what that protocol looks like and why just for explanation for my own thoughts and understanding please um so without knowing the specific incidents I can't speak to whether or not we actually did have drones over above but what I could can tell you is that a reason for that OverWatch is a safety um protocol when we have large crowds and large events the be ability to see the whole picture and everything and any potential threats or hazards beforehand is inv valuable to us um rather than being in the crowd and hearing something and then trying to determine who where what um this gives us that complete overview from a safety standpoint to see the entire picture and enables us to either respond faster or hold anybody accountable that's going to disrupt services or um to basically mitigate any threats we see coming um so that's that would be the purpose for OverWatch these are as First Responders to any type of 911 or crisis call they can get up they can get their faster um and give responders from whichever agency is responding or both um the ability to understand what's occurring and give us the appropriate response thank you um so my last question I hope is for our fire department have we seen these used in other cities and and if so what what has that experience been like well for the fire department good morning Dominic Brown City Fire Department um the benefit of this um is more focused on the the patient center care we're moving more to towards the mobile U the mobile Integrated Health that's want to be specific towards the patient making sure they're receiving the services and the resources they need that's we're focusing on so U an example is in um San Antonio they utilize a good F map what that does that allows us to get on scene and um they can utilize their phone before we get there we can tap into it so it's the same Principle as using the Drone we can look at the individual see what's going on get some botles get that true picture before we get there to make sure that we have the right resources they're going to be there to give those individuals what they need so there are different departments that are utilizing it but we're kind of one of the first are utilizing to this this this um this level to ensure that we're truly serving the citizens so it's basically making sure we get the right resources there so we can address the issue with the um um underutilized resources um those individuals that may not have insurance but they're using 911 as their personal care physician and giving them the right resources to get them what they need to address not only the acute issues but the chronic issues so we can get them what they need so that's the the intent purpose behind this thank you would you mind I'd like some clarification on yes sir yeah so if you wouldn't mind walking us through an example so let's say I reach out to 911 in a mental health crisis yes sir or I reach out and the dispatcher comes to realize this is actually a mental health crisis yes sir what happens next and where does the Drone come in okay so what happens next okay we also have what we're working on is called a um a crisis a crisis uh diversion dispatcher what they do we're having mental health professionals in the dispatch also in the dispatch um location and they're saying hey this is more of a a mental emergency um this this is something that's a low level of mental emergency they need they need help they don't need PD there um they don't need immediate medical care but they need resources so um what we're doing right now um with our emergency response we're seeing individuals there that are um a part um of Emergency Medical Care paramedics we also have individuals that's um a um licensed uh counselor and they get there on the scene because that way that allows the First Responders that are there for emergencies U the acute emergencies they can go go back and service and then we can have people there to get these people exactly what they need when I mentioned the Good Sam app what the Good Sam app does it utilizes technology so the individual can use their phone we can see them um our dispatch can see them they can get the basic vitals to ensure that it's not a a true critical emergency acute emergency we make sure their botles are stable now we have someone that's stare that trrain to make sure they can address their needs and then also get those individuals resources because there may be um um an opioid addiction there may be something that's going on that's long term that you know we're trying to get them resources to get them help that they need to address that so that's what the Good Sam app does so utilizing that technology along with the drones in the same sense you're getting the true picture of what you need to get the right resources there to help those individuals so I hear a lot of the things I support and understand from other cities I guess where I'm just a little confused and maybe the first round of espresso wasn't enough I'm not sure so the dis am I hearing you say the dispatchers you all are wanting to send out this drone to the address yes yes sir the location yes sir and that drone goes out ahead of police and fire yes sir and so if I'm the person on the call the person who called in and I'm on my what maybe in my house or in my apartment on my porch am I anticipating this drone no sir and and I'm sorry if that's confusing so what I'm saying someone asked a question of have you heard of other um cities or organizations utilizing this information and what I was saying is that with the Good Sam app um it it use it uses the individual cell phone and it accesses their phone that way they can get an up close picture so no the Drone is not going to be in their face as far as that the Drone will provide an overall picture to give a 360 view of the situation when we're doing this like the only way the drone's going to be able to interact in any way or give us additional information is if this is occurring outside if someone's in their home of you're not going to be able to have an assessment but you're not just using it on the mental health or it' be like fire response other emergency response as well if it is a scene that's outside and someone can get a visual on what's happening there then the Drone could help from its perspective but you're right if it's inside of the house or inside of an apartment or something it wouldn't add additional Insight at that point if it's a mental health call or even I guess again so many of the words you were saying make a lot of sense to me I affirm this work I advocate for this work I'm a little confused about the need for this technology so in my mind I guess the two cities that immediately come to mind I'd like to know Denver which is where they have have the the star program the mental health alternative like you're talking about it sounds like Denver doesn't have a drone involved is is that okay and then the other example that comes to mind where the working group who studied the mental health Alternatives was Eugene organ okay I I don't think they have this technology either is that what I am is that correct so so before I would recommend before we move forward on this item I'd like to have confirmation of which if any of these municipalities are using this technology and then there's a very specific group I would think would be worth us hearing from we have this me I'm going to get the language a little bit wrong forgive me um it's a mental Health crisis like task force intervention group The Crisis Intervention group that's made up of local mental health professionals you know my Dean from ocu law school she's on there but then there's all kinds of service providers here in the city I'd like to hear from them whether or not they think this makes sound medical sense I guess I'm a little my concern is if so like if I'm on my porch I'm at my house I'm uh at an apartment and I've made this call or someone's made this call to 911 to come help me with a mental health crisis and I go out onto that porch or what have you after that call has happened and I see something in the [Music] air I'm I'm trying to make this is like just down to earth as possible but I see something in the air the way councilwoman nice described being at a concert and seeing one and we've probably all been at a concert or scissor tail Park and seen these drones flying but imagine I am in a mental health crisis maybe I've had a suicidal ideation paranoia and then I see or hear something in the air when I have stepped out under that porch my worry is will that technology exacerbate my paranoia my sense that someone's watching me we are in an age of conspiracy theory so that's why I want to and I I loved councilwoman nice's question have other cities done this approach and I think we actually need to slow down here and see if they have and uh I don't think we should be first out of the gate on this is what I'm saying because I think there is a huge question of privacy for the individual in the Mental Health crisis you all talk about keeping this footage at infinum uh what are the this what is the maintenance the holding the privacy of that footage but again I I worry that this could exacerbate someone if they see or hear that technology floating around them particularly if they're in a if they're a paranoid schizophrenic right don't know they're a paranoid schizophrenic um I'm forgive me for taking just a little bit of time on this I I just think that we we are doing really great work I just want to affirm captain and chief here we're doing such great work working with the team that the city manager is talking about this team of mental health professionals and they've been guiding us through this process I really think it is worth our time to slow down here and have them look put eyes on what what you all are proposing here to make sure that um the person who's reaching out for this help that we're not going to exacerbate I do understand maybe for fire and police and the mental health professionals how getting eyes in a larger perspective could help keep them safer and then ultimately keep the caller safer but I I I think there's some blind spots here one thing that I could suggest here is that we could move ahead with it because the program's in place already like with the first responder this is adding additional to expand but what you're talking about is do we need to look at our policies for how we respond to those types of events especially specifically another option could be that we move ahead with this and then we come back and we are looking at our policy and bring back additional information on our policy if if we could I would like to do policy first um we have the policy we do have a policy in place I think the question of how we use it as a practice there's a yes answer to that and and why I say that is because of everything that was just explained um it it sounds in my opinion before we purchase more let's understand what that policy needs to look like even as we go through the process of working with our fire department for them to have these on hand because I get what you're saying saying but this is going to be a new Venture for our fire department to be able to use these new cameras and I I say that also in the same lens even though it's a different conversation right now at the state level they're having conversations about flock cameras so I'm very cautious at this moment of of these types of surveillance techniques that we choose to use um as a city entity not against them uh fully not against them fully but but I I would like to see if there is an opportunity for us to sit down with that working group um possibly with our what I don't the acronyms pspp I I know that's wrong but you know what I'm talking about um the um the accountability board that it was supposed to be and the um the the folks that are involved from our Police Department as well as our fire department just to get some better knowledge and understanding of that part because because um again I I get it but I'm also a little concerned about the Infinity of us keeping footage and if someone harms themselves are we going back and now charging them if someone else was harmed too you know it's th those kind of things that I'm thinking through as far as how how we look at that so I do have a few more questions I I'm not against any of this but I just want to hear a little more before we vote yes and under in because the the public has the right to know and understand that too um as far as what we are saying yes to and I just want to make sure when I affirm what I vote for that I'm not telling my community something different and then they're going to come back and say well you said this was that and in essence I can't I can't argue with them because that's what I was told so that's where I I am with this I'm just hoping um we can have just a a little slower conversation about it come back to the table and I hope you all understand uh why we're asking these questions is again nothing against this process but it's just wanting to ensure that to the point of what uh council person Cooper said that can be alarming for those who may be experiencing a mental health crisis and we just want to make sure uh that we're approaching this in the in the best way possible and having um those mental health experts be able to speak to that so again it's it's not to say we can't move forward but I I would like to just pause it right now and come back in two weeks if there's a possibility to do that and I do want to clarify because currently the fire department is using drones already yes I was so I was going to follow up with that what we're doing right now as far as the drones that we do use we use those drones for um overall footage so like the the big Hefner wildfires we had that had a large area that we have to cover um those um um toxic environments that we really couldn't get in but we can get over getting overhead view so we use them for that we have um tether drones on our Command Vehicles where we can get on scene and they can go up on the fire scene they get an overhead view of what's going on um there's times that what we call a 360 when we walk around the building to see what's going on so we can make our plan how we're going to address that there's sometimes that we can't get to certain areas so those drones are beneficial so we use them that way um and when I spoke about the U The Good Sam app earlier um I was just referencing how we're leveraging that data and that technology ol to to get that contact with the individual that's experiencing that crisis um not that the drones will be used exactly like that because they can't be able but you just ask about how we're utilizing that type of Technology um to interact with our community and our patients and those in need so I want to make sure that I didn't muddy the water say that we're going to use the the drones exactly like the good sand map I was just trying to give an example of how we're using that data um to serve those in the community yes sir are we currently using would you say we had 38 drones right now yeah are we currently using them for this purpose I mean police fire and mental health and if so out of 100% what part is fire what parts police and what parts mental health we currently have one stationed on I don't know what Melrose and Rockwell that number is uh 31s yeah station 31 to use in that area it's an older style drone and it has trouble with the Wi-Fi in the area so it doesn't actually get used a whole lot but we do use it anytime on a like so on the mental health an example uh we had a gentleman in a cemetery south of Tinker uh he made the statement to dispatch that as soon as he sees a uniformed officer he's going to carry out his suicide so we put a drone up and we're able to see him and talk to him on the phone and talked him into um surrendering basically to the Drone he put the we talked to him putting the gun on the top of the car he lifted his shirt up showed that he has no other weapons and he followed the instructions to walk out to the street where he could get the help he needed from our officers so that's one case we used it on a mental health situation but my question is still the same is it 85% fire 10% police and 5% mental health or is there a way to quy I would reverse that probably I mean it's majority of police currently so on this go we've actually already approve this the only thing that's coming to us is the fact that the price went up a little bit well it's sorry it's that it's the change in the contract but it's also in adding additional drones allowing us to purchase additional drones okay I think um with respect to everybody in the room and I appreciate your concerns but um I kind of tend to agree with Craig and um I think we have 38 drones in use we haven't had any significant or any problems that I've heard of with using the drones I think it's a great safety Factor um I know there are other cities that do things differently like Eugene OR but Oklahoma City is not Eugene Oregon we're the sixth fastest growing city in the United States we're the 20th largest we do things our own way and so I'd like I'm comfortable with the policy I'm comfortable with the 38 drums that are already being used so I can't support iter out this time thank you well I'd like to move forward with it and and go ahead and vote and with us being the six fastes that's why we need to continue uh to work in the lens of our community and our city if we want to stay the six fastest so that's again where where my concern is because it's it's the least of us that I'm worried about when it comes to these types of of ways we respond and again thank you for clarifying the work that is already being done but this is still a different type of use that we are looking at um as far as these cameras are concerned and um understanding again that that percentage of how many for these different ways uh we plan on using these cameras so I'm I'm going to ask that we move forward with the deferral for us to look at it again I don't have a problem with us coming back and and talking about it and talking through it yes we have 38 cameras but we just talked about one and we're voting for 10 more and we have Wi-Fi issues with the one that's in use so it doesn't really Define that all of those things are in place in the ways that we could look at how uh we respect the residents that we are serving at the same time councilwoman nice before we move on your motion I have a citizen signed up to speak that we'll need to hear from first thank you Chief um thank you Captain uh the citizen signed up to speak is going to be uh Michael Washington Mr Washington you have three minutes wonderful wonderful illustrious horse you guest here I am one who quickly have to agree with the conversation that's been put forth so far on this end I just heard perfectly with my almost perfect ears that you already have 38 drones in place and yet I don't see where all of them are being used not one time that I hear that they're all being used now now you want an addition to them why other than if isn't if it isn't to spy upon the privacy of citizens who don't know what those drones are up there for not saying anything disrespect to them because we know there's always some poison apple in the sea somewhere let's keep that real nothing goes by as it is imagined to be done period now then you also have approximately $370,000 in place for these drones already because you want to increase $856,000 more drones 48 where I mean there 10 drones actually cost that amount I don't think it would if 370,000 cost for 38 I'm assuming I don't know because I'm a pillage in this area now then oh no this should not be approved this money can be spent otherwise in areas that are more important Ed in law enforcement I'm not saying anything Sinister bad about what these gentlemen want to do but this money can be used in a more appropriate manner that the citizens can appreciate that money is being spent that tax pay of dollars for something that's good for them like you said it's already a system in place and as a matter of fact being a community acist myself I no one has talked to me about this I feel somewhat slighted I have definitely put my two senses regarding me in it and I don't feel that I'm being given a recognition for the power that I do have as far as a citizen in in Oklahoma everybody knows that I have a love I don't have a hatred for law enforcement let me let that be clear one 30 seconds please 30 seconds but this drone thing oh no no no no let's put a little bit more conversation into it conversation rules the nation we know that and from conversation come action and activity 15 seconds 12 13 let us have about a 10-second moment of silence that we do the right thing I'll be back thank you Mr Washington um so there is a mission on the floor for deferral on item D may I vice mayor I just briefly have to say that if this body is going to not support a deferral then what city manager Freeman described earlier I would love to hear like a public confirmation that our crisis intervention Advisory Group which is not from Eugene Oregon which is not from Denver but is made up and I'm now quoting from an article here um local folk we formed this group to ensure that the city responds compassionately and humanely to people experiencing a mental health crisis and who are these folk they are local Folk they are local folk they are local mental health professionals and I would like for them to hear more about this policy proposal and have their blessing before I support it right I I I'm I just saw our uh Public Safety partnership implementation manager Andrea Grayson walk in and I liter he must have known I was citing you right we formed this group to ensure the city responds compassionately and humanely to people experiencing a mental health crisis the group will be instrumental in the selection and monitoring of a provider that will develop and operate the mobile behavioral uh health alternative Response Team um this provider will go on as we know to coordinate the city's Public Safety departments to respond to low-risk non-violent calls so we we have created a group of local residents who are professionals who have the ability to guide us through this process no one up here with argu the exception of councilwoman Hammond is even close to a mental health provider in terms of that knowledge this group is this group is and so I just want them to lay eyes on what you all are proposing because this has not been done elsewhere is what I am hearing that that's it that is that is accountability and it is a best practice it's called research you don't just do something you research it uh did you want to speak I'm I'm seeing your uh and maybe they've already signed off and great and you're going to tell us that so um with the crisis intervention Advisory Group we do have a monitoring working group when mobile Integrated Health gets up and running and is you know fully integrated and rolled out the monitoring working group that is one of the items that the monitoring working group will review and evaluate during their their process they just have not started the work yet because mobile integrated Heth um is not quite rolled out yet so they will be they have have not yet signed off on is that what I'm mean we we are happy to do it even earlier ahead of what whatever you all need us to do we're happy to do that vice mayor just a point of clarification though we're not voting on the policy today we're voting on the equipment today so I just want to be real clear about that I support you on everything you're saying about the policy but that's not the question before us today and so I just want to be real clear on that specific aspect of it so while I'm still on the fence on the the ferl or not it's real important that we are voting on what's before us today and that we're addressing the rest of that and making sure we're setting up those meetings and those briefings and then another presentation to council with regard to the policy because I would like to hear that as well hey and vice mayor I am grateful for your words there because I've I'm noticed my body language I was like moving into my computer I don't know that there's ever been an issue that has had my like attention like this because I do think it's complex this that's what Nikki councilwoman ice was saying it's like I don't know that I am against the cameras I just want that guidance from the professionals here to help us we might have a little bit of a disagreement on the cart before the horse here and that's fine but I I just want you all to understand where I'm at I'm not trying to put a new policy in place that does not have that that process signed off thank you so real quickly vice mayor if I could just make a comment on this it's and I totally agree with you it's we're not talking about the policy we're talking about the equipment and policies are always under review and I appreciate uh you bringing up the fact that hey again this will as it becomes implemented will be reviewed I think that's a great Point um I think you look at a lot of the situations that our Ci's faced very recently that have happened in large crowds these type of devices not only do they provide safety for uh our citizens but they also provide safety for uh fire employees I think that's very important so I just wanted to make that point Thank you thank you councilman um I appreciate the conversation and I think I'd just like to add um to my knowledge we have never voted on any policy related to the usage of these um uh devices um we've been told this is how we're going to use them this is our policy but I've never seen anything in writing around um when they're deployed how that's recorded um decisions again about when and how they're deployed um and and who's sort of making that call so I think you know to me the spending and the policy kind of Go part and parcel because again I've never seen any information that's that's satisfying um actually I've never seen any information not let let alone anything that might satisfy my inquiry particularly about protecting our residents privacy um Beyond well the courts have ruled XYZ this is case law I have concerns about um implementing something that uh has the potential to abuse our resident civil rights that then winds up in a legal uh situation I would prefer that we proactively create create policy um that is local to us um about the usage of surveillance Technologies um and and how they're used because I'm in agree I agree that in some cases yeah like um with fire that makes so much sense to me to like go send something out where you can get a better picture um that is very different than um using them to surveil a crowd um using them in these sort of crisis response things so all due respect to the conversation about that these things are different when we've never been presented or been given the opportunity to vote on policy let alone shape the policy we've never been proactively asked to shape the policy around these um the use of these kinds of devices and so when we get into talking about safety I I just get concerned because that safety always feels like we're not really um um one we're using anecdotal uh cases of of the usage and um and then we're also not really in my mind I think there's a balance of the safety um and security and privacy of individuals um particularly in mental health crises recognizing that the civil rights of people with disabilities are historically documented um and uh and we are currently under investigation for Ada potential Ada concerns so I that's kind of where I sit with this and again uh I think being able to slow down the expansion of a surveillance program like this without information is not really doing our due diligence that we were elected to do to be able to councilman nice's Point answer the questions that our residents bring to us about um about these sorts of things and again that this is kind of our opportunity to even be aware that this is happening um let alone have some influencer conversation about the policy which I do agree is potentially a separate conversation but it affects the spending it affects how many of these we buy where they're housed who has control over them um who has the authority to um deploy them Etc so just sort of to add that well yes they are are somewhat separate conversations they do seem to go together because this is kind of our opportunity to weigh in um so that's all I'll say I'm happy to vote whenever and I'll say that I come on now look pushing this button um I'll say this in closing um to your point vice mayor totally understand and to the point of what councilwoman him just said my concern is do we need 10 now um this is something that we're voting on right now and and I'd like to understand a little more of that conversation because in actuality we may need less and because of what we're doing we may need a couple more than 10 for these efforts so I again it's it's not about saying no to this it's about understanding um the process and the amount cameras that we are purchasing because of that so I just wanted to reemphasize my ask for this deferral okay we have the motion on the floor for a deferral on item D and the motion to defer has failed so we will leave this item on the consent document I'd like to vote separately on this item please and the item passes vice mayor thank you for Al also thanks for a fairly civil conversation I thought it was nice hearing people's perspectives on that um Mrs Grayson would it be possible I know monthly you and I meet to talk about updates for the all 39 recommendations Chief and thank you for being in those conversations uh next time we meet I'd like to kind of hear where we're heading okay with the crisis Advisory Group and I'm happy to follow you wherever you want to take us on that both of you but and I and I think certainly we can make that it it's on our plan to make sure that we get that reviewed with the crisis intervention crisis intervention Advisory Group yes and then also with that monitoring group that you identified it's a subgroup of that it's a sub commmittee yes it is a subcommittee of the cig and then it sounds like the rest the council would like some updates on that as well so thank you thank you Mr thank you thank you Chief thank you everybody thank you very much all right uh next up on the items to be pulled out is item AC council member hle um this is the item we deferred two weeks ago on spending $200,000 to board up the old jail and I still have heartburn about that and just interested in the conversation um would be interested in possibly deferring this for a while I understand we can extend that contract if we need to but I'd love to hear what our plans are for that and who's going to pay for it because as it sets now we've heard from multiple people four or five years ago that it was not rehab and even city manager two weeks ago said that engineering says you can't rehab it so just conversation please anybody yeah and and I'll I'll start off if you don't mind just explaining that basically the way we've looked at this we have had developers look at this previously there's another group that's interested in it now to take another look um we haven't had a successful proposal come forward of of ways that we can carry it Forward we've looked at it ourselves with one of our programs I think it was Maps looked at with um the diversion Hub determined that we just couldn't they the office space that they needed in there you couldn't accommodate in the building so we didn't really have a specific use after we had brought it Forward previously and it failed um my plan was to hold on this until we get to the goob Bond because I know we got several projects that are in that public safety complex that we need to consider and we may need space there that we could either try to do something with the facade or at least preserve some of the history of the building in another building take it down at that point in the meantime the issue of it sitting there looking the way that it does we would site other people for the condition that it's in now I was just trying to address that and the staff has worked on that it is a lot of money to spend but we're just trying to preserve it and keep it in you know keep it looking better than what it does right now until we have an opportunity to be able to move forward with a project on that note City manager uh I was talking with someone bit more knowledgeable on this than me and if I'm hearing you right you know we have heard from other developers it's like can I do a diner can I do housing but it sounds like the city of OKC might have a literal interest in the public safety like storage of you know our records you know what I mean in terms of I think as we looked at it what it would be probably is taking the building down if the facade could be preserved and I know we've looked at that previously and honestly just don't recall like if some portion of the facade could be preserved that's a way that we could look at it if we couldn't do that take the building down and then you can also in a building that replaces that preserve some of the history within that building just different levels of historic preservation and so we wanted to be able to evaluate that I think our look would be taking it down preserving some of the history and moving forward with another facility in its place if we do the Geo Bond program and part of it right now there's several concepts of needs that we have the question is depending on the priorities that we have all the priorities we're looking at can we get those in but to do that this item would would oh me excuse me let me rephrase my question because I don't know the answer to this question um am I hearing that this item is on the docket for us because if that were the goal what you're describing we would need to do this work right now to know what just help me understand this is just to pres it's it's just to keep it from getting in worse condition than it's in right now and improve and improve the appearance as an abandoned building sitting there on the block that's all this one is right now basically holding it to the same standard that we hold our residents when with their dilapidated structures right but it's not with the idea that that's going to somehow preserve the building it's just that we're trying to be better neighbors and make sure that we're boarding it up and making it look better until we get to the point that we can do something with the building I think that is what I'm asking yes right like that I just wanted to know like why is this here as a a vote and yeah to councilman Hinkle's question like where are we going what is actually practically achievable here um so okay thanks so I'm sorry but I think from my standpoint this has been going on for over five years now now six to seven years yeah six to seven years and we've had multiple multiple people okay we're going to do something nothing's happened because once they start exploring the building they realize that nothing's going to happen with that building so do we just keep throwing money at it to put plywood on some windows or do we go ahead and take it down and I understand the historical preservation piece of it I'd like to see plan that we're going to do with that even if we do demolish it but kind of like councilman HL I just I don't see the point if continuing to throw money at it if there's and we all know this there's nothing going to be done with that building um but I would like to see a plan for the historical preservation site I think we all want that um the problem is is when we've had Engineers look at it what is it Craig I can't remember three to four floors that only have 6 and a2t ceiling and it's it's it's the upper floors I don't remember if it's four it's either four or five I don't recall and and the problem is those don't even work for storage because the ceilings are too low and so nobody's come up with a viable plan uh we've heard time and time again that we're going to get a viable plan and we've also heard that uh several people say well we're going to get some historical preservation action going forward and that's never happened to date well one I I'll just interject and say storage is actually quite possible with the ceiling Heights um because it does not have to be duct the duct work doesn't have to be installed the air conditioning of the space is different when it's storage is is what has been told to me so that's sort of been the um driving piece for the top floors is that maybe there's some opportunity for storage rather than office space where you have to have different um conditioning um I I will say uh within the last two months this conversation um came came back up in com particularly in relation to the Civic Center and Kirk Patrick Foundation are in our two um entities working together very interested um before this item even came up on um on this agenda a few weeks ago they they've been in conversation about doing some of that planning work um with an interest in um maybe additional performing performance space um Etc but um I I think to Craig's point about being a good neighbor we ask people to throw good money after bad to board up their properties if they don't have a plan moving forward um and to my knowledge I think the only money we put into this is the demolition of the old police headquarters I don't believe we put any money into doing anything with the old jail is that do you have any recollection Craig we've done some securing on the lower floors it's those upper Windows is where we have the real issues right now and then we've done some work I think try to stabilize that facade so it didn't crumble and fall and then we've got some fencing around it and maintenance that's going on okay that's that's helpful to know but um you know again I I get I sort of get frustrated with the well we've tried this and we tried that and this is a new group that has come forward my understanding is that there is maybe some City departments that have interest in um utilizing the property Andor building um so yeah I think to be good neighbors and hold ourselves to the same standard it just makes sense to to take this step um citing that it's been multiple years while stuff moves really slow in in the city and particularly when um there's no uh the person who's interested in or group of people who might be interested in champing something it is not their full-time job to do so so they are trying to fit it in among among a lot of other things um that things take time um so that I'll just say that that we do have some groups that for the last few months have been talking and doing some studies are interested in doing further studies um and putting some resources into that work right now and it would be really nice to get this just boarded up so that it doesn't those upper floors don't continue to have further um issues that will need to be Abad um regardless of whether we demolish it or not um the more the environmental conditions in there get worse the more it's going to take to eventually Abate that and then demolish it so in my mind this is actually a little bit of an ounce of prevention regardless of what happens with the building Matt would you be okay with deferring this for two weeks so we could uh maybe talk to this new group number one and number two uh I just attended the Civic centers uh board meeting and this wasn't on the agenda so I'd like to do some more research on that is two weeks enough it's fine with me okay I'd like to move we deferred this item for two weeks no just saying councilman Carter are you sure you don't want I'm hearing you say four weeks I we gotta have it let's not you know six months out but how much time is it going to take for us to actually sit with this the I mean you have two groups that what I'm hearing councilwoman it I'm just I'm this not my wor I'm trying to learn sounds like it's Civic Center and we justed for two weeks and nothing's happened so I'm suggesting four so we actually have a little bit more time to do a better dive okay so I may we defer it for four weeks November 5th and then city manager I mean can you help coordinate where we can you know everyone from councilman ster to Gold Can we I'll do my best to help coordinate this but we've had I me you we'll do what we can to try to get conversations going it's it's kind of like what we talked about it's it's there's just some things you can't they're going to be they're going to take more time to answer I think as far as like what a development potential is but we'll do our best to com to to coordinate the conversation so that people can get the information they feel like they need for this and don't get me wrong if we have somebody come forward with a legitimate plan and funding and the thoughts of what to do there I'm yeah I'm all for it but for us to spend 20% of what it would cost to tear it down just to save it to tear it down is makes no sense to me whatsoever so there's a motion for defer for four weeks on the floor and the deferral Passage I think I have item nine Au up next with the presentation yes so Joanna mpen is here with the economic development she's our economic development manager to give us an update on this project good morning Joanna mpen with Finance um so this is an introduction for the use of titu funds the item will come back in two weeks for final vote um this will be the third allocation of this kind where we're allocating funding to use for small infrastructure projects um the projects that would be utilizing this funding would be Alleyway improvements sidewalk improvements um we've done a small waterline extension with this type of funding um the contracts for each of those individual projects would come back through the economic development board or trust for approval and back to this body for um concurrence how our normal Economic Development um Agreements are handled so happy to answer additional questions if anybody has any councilwoman nice said do you have comments or questions you can call this one out as well um I do have a question um as far as I can tell one of these projects has already happened so how that I was a little bit confused about that that these are projects that will be happening when I see one that like I look at every day and I'm pretty sure is complet you said you think that the projects had already happened yeah that one of them I think in the memo what we did was we listed some project that were ex allocation just to give you an example of the types of project okay I was like I'm confused about the timeline here but that I okay the wording is much clearer to me now that okay okay appreciate that thanks Jo yep AQ BQ thank you sorry moving on to item BQ councilwoman Hammond did you want a separate vote on this one yes and i' just like to sort of explain why this is the um the contract with um the Oklahoma City public school district for um the school resource officer program and I know um I don't know if Andrea is still here um if she might want to speak to any of it but I um we did talk about it a few weeks ago at one of our um quarterly updates um about some of the 21 CP Public Safety partnership recommendations and I do I just want to say I do appreciate the work that um she has done with okcps and sort of the work to um I would say tighten up the contract to be a little more clear about the roles um of sro's within um this schools where they're located I still um and I express this to her I my eventual goal is uh is that we would sever Inc greatly decrease the number of police officers that are in schools um and provide other types of um prevention and intervention related to um safety concerns uh you know I think some people sort of look at scans when when we say you know you need we need to pay for more counselors and um but I think there are other programs that we have seen and I've seen throughout the country I've seen people Implement some of them locally um where you have more trusted uh culturally appropriate mentors um trusted adults that young people can bring their concerns about potential violence or um a concern about another student too um that is not um does not have the uh legal authority to um take someone's Liberty away um to detain them um to be again one of the main concerns I brought up is that many of our okcps students um have family that has been incarcerated um has you know been entangled in the criminal legal system um and so having that visual presence in their school um is is not a positive experience for them and I I want us to continue to while I appreciate sort of some of the the reforms that have happened around this to direct the the work a little bit more and have a little bit more accountability and conversation with the school district I still just um would really like us as a community to re be rethinking how we can um provide safety and um again that prevention and intervention for School fights conflicts between students um you know potential weapons in schools that there's there's a lot of other options that aren't um people that are in uniforms that again are very closely associated with a lot of harms that our students have experienced so I'm just not able to support this um and that's why I'm requesting a separate vote one um want to ask a couple questions while we're on the subject just to to help me understand as well uh for this agreement are we increasing the budget how is this in comparison to last year as far as those officers are concerned um and what uh different I I wouldn't say concessions but are there any other things that we were able to compromise as far as uh to the point of what councilwoman Hammond said uh for our officer to truly be uh a resource to our students and looking again I know this is pertaining to middle and high school but our our fact and pal program in relation to um us having these officers in our school so just curious of of those questions if those can be answered Chief you want to take those and then and then Andre you can follow up if there's anything else on that in relation to the what we've done in terms of the public safety partnership and the recommendations absolutely if I understood your question correctly you're wondering what we were able to accomplish together um in regards to um how we work together to become a resource for students as a police department um I don't want to overshadow anything that Andrea Grayson or anyone from the school district is going to say but um I think we both worked really hard together to come up with with an idea of what our delineated responsibilities are within the schools um basically in Shand police officers are not there to enforce school rules violations of Law and safety issues however what I'm telling you is what we won't abdicate are those relationships that we build with students um some of them are mentors coaches um they identify children and filter them to our various youth Outreach programs and so they are a resource um I often brag about some of the people that are on our Police Department who are only here because of the sro's and the interactions that they had um with um their officers I'll brag about Captain TG Charles who is actually our acting uh division Commander at the training center right now and he's over recruiting but he grew up with not such a great image of law enforcement and it was his interaction with his SRO that changed his trajectory and got him to where he is today um we have several of those stories and so the engagement is something we can never abdicate because relationships are great if you haven't seen some of the stories where the students welcome back their sro's on video and on social media um after absences it's phenomenal so we're building relationships with those students throughout the course of the year um safety um is obviously our most important um priority but also being that resource that you talk about and that foundation for setting them up for success working in conjunction with the school district um is our greatest role um as far as additional costs I think you asked I think and um the school district can uh correct me if I'm wrong I think we are actually one less SRO compared to last year so as a opposed to last year I think we had 18 and this year we'll have 17 sro's in Oklahoma City Public Schools is there a reason for the decrease of just one just curious um that's actually a school district question and I'll thank you okay as Chief basy stated with the public safety partnership you know our immediate goal was to answer that one that recommendation recommendation 26 and that was really to clarify the goals or clarify the roles of SRO in the school when we added the information or that language in the cont contract both parties came together and agreed to create engagement guidelines and as Chief basy stated worked really hard the public schools and the police department worked really hard in collaboration with one another um under this you know umbrella the public safety partnership to create these engagement guidelines we created really for tenants that we work under and it's just first and foremost that law enforcement is there really to keep everyone in the school safe um that their are Law related Educators that instruct students and staff about their rights and responsibilities under the law um the srls do serve as Liaisons uh we want to create and continue to create law enforcement as positive role models and third and fourthly it is their job to be a role model and to funnel them through the appropriate programs so those engagement guidelines operate under those four tenants and one of the things in this first year that we're doing that we have done and moving forward is creating an evaluation program because we want to ensure that those things are actually happening so we are reaching out to the school we work in Partnership and conjunction with them that before school begins that they meet administrators they meet faculty they meet staff to clarify everyone is in agreement what their goals are um they introduce themselves in those first days of school to faculty and staff again to the student body and then when asked they are in the classroom to give any type of presentation or anything like that as time allows um to make that clear to um kids you know about law enforcement but they do operate in a really admirable fashion to be role models to kids in the school and to funnel them through the appropriate programs the the question that you did have about I'd like for Brad herzer and Wayan Cubit to come up to answer that other well good morning council members and city manager Freeman um yes we did reduce the contract this year by one officer um that was really due to our budget constraints um we asked to reduce that number um the police department said that that was really the number that they had to have in order to cover all the schools we do require that they have an officer in each one of our uh designated middle school and high schools on a daily basis um so to cover that that was the number that we agreed upon was 17 um which was a reduction of one we had some of our schools that had uh two officers at each site some of our larger schools Northwest Classen and US Grant and so we were do set number to one per site and then we back fill with our own officers um in those situations so I should have introduced to Brad Herer he's assistant superintend superintendent of tal management safety security risk management and health thank you um thanks and if you don't if you don't mind I would like to hear from Mr Cub y W's our director of security good morning good morning director of security Mr cubin um I I know a as you have heard even before you took this role um our Quest was to ensure uh that we were able to reduce in a way for safety as well with our our school resource officers so just curious to know um what new procedures from the school districts aspect are being implemented in order for our students to also interact with the officers that will be placed in the schools yes so thank you for the opportunity warning everybody the um engagement guidelines are very very key like uh Andrea said we work really really hard on those engagement guidelines uh the police department uh had to work directly with me uh is to to produce those guidelines we worked uh tirelessly on getting those out and to keep in mind all of the programs that and the resources that the police department used for youth engagement and youth Outreach I was a part of in the origin that's the Police Athletic League and and pal and truy and those things and so I didn't leave those the Ingenuity and I didn't leave the heart for kids and leave the heart for Citizens Community behind when I came to the school district so when we created those guidelines that is the heart in which those guidelines was created students first safety first uh relationships first and so uh as my role as the security director there's a lot of stuff we have to do for physical security locks and doors and access control and cameras and all that kind of stuff but but the basis and the fundamental part of our security plan at the Oklahoma City Public Schools is relationships because all of those things will uh fail eventually somebody's going to prop a door eventually a camera is going to go out a lock is going to fail or do is going to uh fail something is going to fail access control wire won't work or something uh when a kid comes to an officer and says I don't feel safe and this is the reason why or this is not RAC and this is the reason why we're winning because those things mechanically will fail relationships don't and so the fundamental part of those guidelines the fundamental part of our entire security posture and keeping our kids safe is the relationship between the trusted adult and the law enforcement officer in that school and so I really wish you had the opportunity to watch these officers engage uh with students on a on a daily basis I can tell you from a real practical point that recently we know we've dealt with a lot of social media threats false information being spread uh I cannot imagine having to deal with the the magnitude of those threats without our SRO and the schools and helping us identify what's real and that's what's not real in their school and identifying the players whether these were students at their schools whether there's relationships at their schools screen names and nicknames the the the that would be almost impossible to do if our SS were not in the school daily with real relationships with those students thank you thank you Mr thank you I appreciate everything you do um as you all know I teach at Oklahoma City University English and film I yesterday grabbed lunch with uh one of the professors who is in charge of teaching teachers how to teach literally Works has created a program to work with our emergency certified teachers and she gave me some data and I'd like for parents to hear this um did you all know that in TW this is by the way according to the Oklahoma Association of colleges for Teacher education of data did you all know that in 2013 2014 according to this data we had 180 9 emergency uh teaching certifications 189 did you know that in 2022 2023 you have 4574 did you know that let me let me bring that good I see some former uh principles school board members nodding the head I want to make that clearer that means no matter where you're sending your kids to school in the school system public education school system that were once in 2012 2013 you know around when Sandy Hook happened that back then you had in this state 189 emergency certifications we have issued today [Music] 4,574 that means that you have teachers right now who have not gone through the process the process in College of learning how to teach your children let me bring that down to earth former Governor Mary Fallon told us that from birth to third grade a child learns to read and then from third grade onward they read to learn if you do not have in your classrooms teachers who have the skill set to teach the foundation skill of how to read then you then have students in your classes who are going to act disruptively because they are behind in education and that's where you start seeing the quote problems in your schools let me go further we also know that in 2013 and 14 at the college level 108 adjunct which means part-time no benefits working at multiple universities and community colleges all across not just the Metro but often the state to try and Cobble together an income of around $24,000 a year those are your ad juns and no benefits and they have to go find work during the summer that's why they're often your barista and your servers okay adjuncts were 108 did you know today 2,400 of your college professors who are teaching your children are adjunct part-time and having to Cobble together a salary across multiple higher education institutions do you understand what I am saying to you so even if you're one of the parents who has a strong middle class salary and you can afford to send your kids to a tutor to make sure they have the support system they need for mathematics science and reading you were preparing your child you think to go to one of the elite colleges maybe it's ocu where I teach maybe it's Colombia but did you know that even with all of what you have done to prepare your child for success their professors are most likely part-time do you understand what I am saying to you the system is broken it is a broken system that's why we had a walk out that's why we had a walk out the kids who are misbehaving in your classroom were not born bad they are the product of traumas in the home and in their neighborhoods it is as old as Plato and Aristotle it is an illusion that having and I'm so sorry to say this but I will say it so long as I am in the seat because I think our kids lives are on the line their Futures are on the line and I'm going to advocate for them and their lives there is a pathway to what makes you a mass shooter and that pathway tends to be consistent to the kids who are actually hurting other kids in class and disrupting the learning process what is that pathway I will now quote from a political article where they interview two professors backgrounds in criminology who also have children so they have a stake Beyond just Academia quote there is a r parental suicides extreme bullying then you see the build toward hopelessness despair isolation self-loving oftt times rejection from peers that turns into a really identifiable crisis point where they're acting differently sometimes they've had previous suicide attempts and then what does this do that that is where it's different than a traditional suicide it turns into a self-hate that turns against a group they start asking themselves whose fault is this is it a racial group or women or a religious group or is it my classmates and then that hate turned outward it's also a quest for fame and notoriety you could prevent this Oklahoma City you can prevent this this same research says all we would have to do and I really applaud councilman Stone and stone Cipher for working with me and mayor Hol I'm and Todd knows that this is a big deal to me but on our legislative committee we have been advocating for this next policy the solution here the solution is not police officers the solution is in an Ideal World 500,000 across the country psychologist would be employed in schools around the country and if you assume a modest salary of $70,000 a year that amount to $35 billion in funding that's what we need to be doing when I hear that a police officer is there is a school resource officer my first question as an English teacher who cares about language is the resource part what resources are we connecting them to often times the resources we need to be connecting them to is mental health cut out the middle person and hire the mental health professionals and get them in the classrooms everything else is an illusion and the idea of having a police officer in there with a gun with a gun with a gun is you're missing the research the research says that these are mass shootings but they're a suicide attempt they want an officer to shoot them that is the plan that is the plan and it's not just the mass Shooters it's the gang members it's the disruptive ones because they have learned that the moment they shoot whether they killed or not the moment they shoot CNN's going to publish their face MSNBC is going to publish their face the local news and now they're famous I hope someone in this crowd is hearing what I'm saying too often the council members don't and we just keep doing this over and over again and so I asked my students to watch the vice presidential debate specifically the gun violence portion and I said which of these two men which policies do you support I won't say who let me tell you what they said we are the students the students said the students they said they are tired of their schools becoming forts they are tired of us putting Metal Detectors of which there are none to come into this city council chamber but for these kids to go into their middle Schools Jefferson Middle School where I taught for okcps those kids have to walk through every single day five days a week as if they are going to prison a metal detector people go into their bags what does that do to your psychological State well let me tell you these students says it makes them hurt it hurts their mental health the school itself becomes a fort and it hurts their mental health we're contributing to the crisis of mental health in this state they're already experiencing childhood traumas and we are doubling down on it that's what's happening and I know that makes some of y'all real uncomfortable for me to speak at length on this but I ran on this I ran to protect our children better to make sure they have a pathway to Greatness not a pathway to um destruction and despair I will never support this and nor should anyone up here well I've got to say I support it and you know talking about sro's I remember growing up as a kid with sro's in high school and I didn't become best friends with them but guess what I figured out that guess what our police are humans too and when you talk about the safety of our kids when you talk about the things they're having to do to just get in school I agree with you it's a problem it's a problem because we're having to do that to try and keep them safe from additional trauma so it's the it's the lesser of two evils but I appreciate I've talked to principles in the Oklahoma City Public School District that were hugely upset when they lost their sro's they weren't just concerned for their kids they were concerned from the parents excuse me not the parents the teachers from some of the uh issues that arose from parents I'll put it that way so I I disagree with you on that I I totally respect what you're saying and it's a hugely complex problem yeah but um I fully support our SRO well and uh councilman that's what I've always appreciated about you on this you you actually you're you are hearing me and I really appreciate that can I ask a followup and if if you don't want to answer it right now that's fine and I said this to and and the chief last week when we were meeting on this I actually do not have a problem with the police officer being in the school we had uh coach Esa Esau out at Jefferson those kids loved him because he coached he was out there coaching their football team so they built a really strong relationship so I know these anecdotes that you all are saying are absolutely true true uh there's Lee who's over at uh Northwest class and those kids loved him talk about Zelda like yeah these relationships work and often can sit set the kid on a pathway to becoming law enforcement and changes some misperceptions so I agree do they need a gun does the officer need a gun in the school is my question I don't think they do especially I think the risk of the person who wants to die by a gun to get the fame and the notoriety it's what Kendrick Lamar The Rapper but the one in front of the gun lives forever right it's a Fame it's a notoriety they die out in the streets they like that I don't know do you like my rap oh I'm ready to answer you want me to answer no no do you think they need the gun in the school and I do for one reason our police have a role where they are not allowed to walk away okay no matter how bad that situation is that they walk into that we put them into right they can't walk away and goof this is a tough situation I think I'll just leave for an hour and hopefully it'll calm down a little bit then maybe I'll come back right they're there they have have to take control of that situation that's their role in society that's what we ask them to do so we give them the equipment to hopefully maintain their own safety we want them to be able to go home to their family to at night so yes I I think so I appreciate that response I see it differently I think the and this is just I'm glad we're I'm glad thank you for that answer I think that the officer is inadvertently putting that child and the kids in the school in more danger because the person who wants to die it wants that cop to shoot them that's going to further traumatize the students I actually think going back to your earlier conversation with the chief and the fire department I think that's the moment if this is like truly like a very dangerous situation that's where you call in for the backup but having the officer there with that gun and I even think calling for backup with armed folk is is a dangerous thing we have passed as you know less lethal there are officers using less lethal devices and I think that having something like that could go a lot further in terms of keeping the child safe than the gun so I guess I'm saying that again I think having officers there to help create Pathways to law enforcement that makes sense building Community makes sense but I think that having the less lethal options like we've seen at the realtime police training I think that would probably go a bit further so I actually appreciate you engaging me in this Todd I I mean I think we're gonna just agree to disagree okay um but they do have least leth Le less lethal thank you devices on them as well um but anyway I just I appreciate everything everything y'all do and trying to make sure that our students stay safe hearing no other comments from Council we have one citizen signed up to speak Michael Washington you have three minutes thank you thank you wonderful wonderful Serv wow whoa whoa whoa whoa now that's all I can say you know what I don't he really have time like everybody else I have to kind of piece all my conversations together what since Coline high school shooting in 1999 the year 2022 sh saw more school shootings 46 than any other time in our nation as a matter of fact since that colum B shooting in 1999 3,338 students in the United States have experienced some gun Pence at school at some point in time which is very frightening to me our kids today are experiencing a very violent outcome the schools have become virtual War zones now something that you would expect to see on the streets in gangs or what have you or maybe in the military in Istanbul or somewhere but in our institutions of learning that's why with this issue here the jury is out on my end not for against this contractional agreement but let me say the security and safety of our children is uppermost in all wise I believe that so what is right what is wrong should not be the point here my agreeing or disagreeing with you should not be the point here but what essentially should be the point is how do we protect our children from viol Ence now let me say this one thing as well a little young kid the other day was able to bring a weapon from school from from home to school resource officers police officers somebody can and did avert that situation and again to have both elements entities in the school at one time seemed like a great point to me because this gentleman may miss something where I don't or I may miss something where he doesn't weapons in school again the jur is out on that I don't think it's because one child in retrospect what you're saying one child being uh threatened by possibly suicide because he wants an officer to kill him I don't think he speaks for the general oall a majority at school these kids need to know that they will be save 30 seconds please as a matter of fact even I'm that's a plot Amy you did that let me S but I just want to say y I just had to speak on that because safety of our children's up most in our schools and if I could I would do what I could necessary to protect these childrens again 4.6 million children live in homes where at least one gun is kept I think that's where a lot of our problems should end and begin I'll be back thank you thank you Mr Washington councilwoman Hammond you called this one out for a separate vote okay we appear to be having some technical difficulties this morning I'll okay a motion and a second we'll do a v maybe let's just it looks like it's everybody's screen working now screen thank you and the item passes we can move on now U thank you Chief thank you Captain and uh thank you to Oklahoma City Public Schools for your cooperation and uh collaboration on this effort we can now move to the remainder of the consent docket if someone would like to make a motion and Technology would work and that passes we'll move on now to item 10 the concurrent docket where we can take items a through o with one vote all right and that passes we'll move on now to item 11 items for individual consideration item a is an ordinance on Final hearing recommended for approval PC 10943 rezoning 2103 South Missouri Avenue Council mayor Stone thank you vice mayor has anyone signed up to speak on this item just the applicant if you need him I don't think we're going to need the applicant on this one okay I I think we're good um this is for a medium industrial area that's highly industrial uh recommended by staff unanimously unanimously by the uh Planning Commission so I will move for its approval and the item passes moving on to Item B an ordinance on Final hearing recommended for approval PUD 2009 resoning 2014 Southwestern Avenue councilwoman Hammond yes this is resoning from R1 to a handful of um mixed uses I would say um uh as an extension of the wheeler District so I will move for approval and the item passes moving on to item C an ordinance on Final hearing Rec recommended for approval PUD 2024 resoning 1101 North col train Road councilwoman nice yes um the purpose of this application U is for a two family uh residential use and development and their I don't see any protests and it it helps that the developer lives close to the develop so I will move for this approval got a motion in a second and the item passes next up is item 11d uh it's got two parts to it number one an amendment to the master design statement and then number two ordinance on Final hearing uh for PUD 2025 councilwoman nice we've got a few folks uh signed up to speak if you'll take it in whatever order you'd prefer okay I do want to hear from uh those that signed up to speak but I do want first for uh the representative for the applicant to come forward and explain what some of the amendments are that are part of the master design statement before we hear from those who have signed up to speak and go from there yeah good morning David box 522 call Cord drive here on behalf of the applicant who's also here with us as well as Mark grubs who's the civil engineer for this project um this is an application that actually came before the council uh many months ago by way of a different developer uh at the time of that development it was anticipated that we would have uh kind of broadly commercial development along the frontage and then a um specific type of residential product in the back uh that developer was unable to close on the property and so a new developer stepped in and when he first contacted me I told him I think we should first go meet with the neighbors there was a lot of dialogue that happened in the uh first go round with the neighbors and it was probably important that we sit down with the neighbors to explain why they're now going to receive a second set of notices on the same property that we had just gone through so what we did was we had a neighborhood meeting before we ever filed the Pud uh we explained that it's still residential but it's a different form of residential the residential now would be an attached single family type of development compared to a traditional single family had that meeting frankly thought it went fairly well um we then moved forward to Planning Commission Planning Commission unanimously recommended approval of this but we committed at the time of planning to have another meeting that meeting occurred I believe it was two weeks ago uh on a Thursday and there were additional concessions that they asked us for even after receiving the approval from Planning Commission almost all of which we agreed to a lot of the concerns deal with um drainage and flooding so we have committed that prior to moving forward we will provide them with a copy of the drainage analysis that is required before we turn any dirt um we've committed to a specific plan application so before we can build anything we'll have to go back to Planning Commission to confirm that what it is we intend to build is compliant with all of the things in the Pud um at the outset the original development plan had a 20 foot landscape buffer that went around these folks um I knew that that would be an important piece and so even though this developer wasn't a part of those negotiations he did commit to keeping um that 20 foot landscape buffer we have limited the height to two story if you think about what R1 single family would allow it would allow for 2 and 1 half story and 35 ft at the neighborhood meeting there's a lot of discussion about wanting us to be further away and the point we tried to make is if you think about if this was just traditional single family what you'd have is 50ft wide lots and then you'd have a 10 foot rear yard setback and so you'd have home after home after home 10 feet and then a shared fence what we think is a better scenario is a 20 foot landscape buffer our setback will probably end up being around 40 feet or so and twostory rather than the two and a half that R1 would allow so yes it's a different style of residential but we think it has more protections than what it would otherwise be if it were R1 there's also a lot of discussion about well the R4 bulk standards requires single story within the first 60 feet of the development where a budding R1 and although that is true if you think about what that could be then in is perhaps you'd have single story within the first 60 ft but you're not going to have a 20-ft landscape offer what often times happens is that's where you would then put your parking lot and so rather than 20 ft of landscaping you have the parking lot of the single story multif family structure and then you end up pushing all the higher taller density further away we think having the two-story across the board with 20 ft of landscaping is a better scenario the question was asked as to what more could we do my Cent as of this morning is agreeing to reduce down the density by six additional units so that would be an additional Amendment that's not otherwise encapsulated in your um staff report or on your agenda but that is something that we're willing to do in terms of the other modifications all of these uh came from that neighborhood meeting the changes have been made they have been submitted to staff but because it came after planning it does require an additional Amendment you'll see on there uh we have limited trash pickup times we are we have concessions on sidewalks and then we limit the building height to um to the 20 ft and one story and tract two which is a personal storage track we also came up with additional um discussion points about fencing and where those would be so all in all again we have continued to concede and negotiate on this um a lot of the concern stems from this was a horse farm it was a lovely neighbor to have a a horse farm next to you the horse Farm has gone out of business it was shopped to all all the horse folk and in our community and and there wasn't a market for it uh this is the second one of these types of developments that I've done where once the original operator of the horse uh Farm goes away there's not a big market for and the land is is then sold so given that it's not going to be a horse operation we think we've come up with appropriate limitations to ensure that this is a compatible development our density is 9.2 dwelling units per acre under the Luda under the comprehensive plan for this type of development what is anticipated is a 15-30 uh dwelling unit per acre under the urban low intensity Luda for multif family type zoning so all in all staff recommended approval Planning Commission recommended approval we've continued to add modifications and we would ask for your approval happy to answer any questions uh thank you for that and I I just want to point out again and reemphasize what Mr boach said that this happened and you may remember this particular uh situation that came before us months ago it was because half of this particular property was in Oklahoma City and the other half was in Edmund um so I don't remember if you all may remember that my issue upfront not a problem with where we are now but my issue with these types of uh applications is this this is this this is number two for me currently that I am at the table with to rezone um based on a different owner uh as far as a PUD is concerned and it's it's it's confusing for quite a few people um including myself to understand how we get to where we are so I appreciate um all of the conversations with our neighbors and I was at the initial meeting before this even went to the Planning Commission uh with with our neighbors that live within this community to understand what some of our issues are and how we can get to um a better way to move this zoning request forward if there is one um and also to the neighbors that I have spoken to thank you uh for that communication so I I will ask that we hear from those residents who have signed up to speak and um go from there we have everan pagee hello my name is Evan pagee I live at 14,000 Plymouth Crossing I'd like to start by thanking you for allowing me the opportunity to speak I would also like to thank Mr grait who has made time to meet with us and our neighbor um I appreciate some of the considerations and concessions that he's made ultimately these concessions do not address my largest concern which is the proposed residential density I believe that this density will increase traffic on an already busy street which poses increased safety issues for middle middle school students who walk along the side of the road I am also concerned that the proposed density will contribute to overcrowding at one of the largest elementary schools in Edmund of which my daughter attends um in the zoning meeting on August 22nd Mr Pennington tried to tell me that the current proposal is better in terms of traffic this is categorically false as the current proposal more than doubles the number of units in the residential section while I recognize that the Oklahoma City Council may not be concerned with the schools in Edmund I would like to believe that you care about the safety of my children and the children of my neighbors walking along the side of the road to get school because of the location of the Middle School there is more traffic on the street than might otherwise exist based on the Residential Properties along this road it is also because of these concerns that I humbly ask the council to deny the application um some of my other neighbors are here to speak today and I would like to just say that I will support what they are saying as well I also want to thank councilwoman nice for um being present at that meeting I I truly appreciate it thank you thank you Patrick Bray mayor Hol members of the council good morning I'm Patrick Bray I live at 14209 middleberry Road Wellington Park Edition Northeast Oklahoma City my property directly AB buts uh what would be track one in the Pud uh when I moved to this house I knew absolutely that the horse farm would not remain a horse farm but I did have the assumption that when it was developed it would be something compatible and in harmony with the surrounding area and I don't think that this PUD does that uh Mr Box will tell you that eight families living under a single roof as a single family house I have trouble with that anyway I have two main concerns one is the density of the development um it was 9.2 I think is what the the Pud says units per acre in the Pud it's about nine after he reduces a little bit Wellington Park is 2.5 units per acre so we're talking almost four times of density I don't think that is either in harmony or compatible with the surrounding area my second concern is the height of the structure and it's set back from the R1 residential you know I know you know that okl city has a uh a Planning and Zoning base code and in table 61002 it says the maximum height for an R4 development that AB buts or is even within 60 ft of an R1 zoning the maximum height should be one story or 20 feet I don't see why something that has served the city so well should be completely circumvented by uh some submitting a PUD so I would have these suggestions first I think that if you would take track one and Zone at all R2 for duplexes then uh that would re give you some buffer between the R1 and maybe some R4 somewhere or the commercial which is zoned along Bryant Avenue second suggestion would be to just do to go back to what the base zoning is is if it's within 60 ft or or a buts the R1 limit the heights of the structure to one story or 20 ft my third suggestion would be to increase the set back from this would be my house this would be the townhouse right now on this drawing from my house well not from my house from this fence which is my yard to the town house house is 43 ft I think under the Pud it could actually be less than that if you develop it I would like to ask that the distance from my fence to this townhouse be increased to 60 ft with my 25t backyard that makes 85 ft from the back of my house to the back of the townhouse if I look out the front of my house it's about 100 ft from my front wall to the twostory house across the street I don't think we're asking asking for that much here and I don't think it would kill his economics to add another to make 60 ft from uh my backyard to the wall of the townhouse so that's all I have I appreciate your time and your service uh I'll listen to questions if you have them well I'll say Thank you Mr Bray I did receive your email and I have it in front of me so I I appreciate that and then after we hear from the rest of the residents I will ask ask Mr Box to come up and address those things that you just asked about okay after he addresses them my address is we'll see okay we'll see thank you thank you William silk good morning mayor council women councilman uh I'm Bill silk I live at 13905 Plymouth Crossing for 29 years uh I'm a retired architect and I'm here representing Wellington Park homeowners association as a board member and as a homeowner I'd like to pass out a graphic if I could this graphic represents uh many of the issues that I'd like to speak to today uh this PUD was filed on July 11th uh but it was not made available to us until about August 2nd um we did not have a community meeting with a developer before August 22nd when the hearing was held because the Planning Commission ignored the lack of a community meeting because the planning Commissioners did not discuss the protested items submitted to them and because Ward 7 commissioner did not return any phone calls regarding any of the protest letters before the commission hearing Wellington Park decided to request a community meeting on September 26 several of our requested changes have been Incorporated per your agenda today however several serious issues were not agreed to and that's why I'd like to address them with you you today the consensus of our HOA is to ask for your vote to deny this PUD for six reasons reason number one tract one is not single family housing on a platted lot it's not R4 housing on a platted lot it's r10 housing and why do I say that because the Lots the minimum lot sizes are one tenth the size of the Lots in Wellington Park reason number two R4 zoning setbacks are not being followed for multiple issues R4 requires a 20ft front yard the Planning Commission reduced it to 5 feet a two story R4 zoning requires a 60t distance to the R1 property line not the 40 or 43 ft being proposed today reason number three at track one the eight Plex structures proposed will be anywhere from 160 to 200 ft long and up to 35 ft High these structures occur 40 feet away from our property lines reason number four at track two the developer does not provide the Landscaping required by the zoning regulations he asked for and received a variant why every other developer on any project has landscape requirements at track two because the setback requirements for C3 to R1 properties are violated in other words on track two there are setback variances that don't comply with the zoning ordinances and reason number six the vote of the Planning Commission was not unanimous there is no category in the Oklahoma City zoning ordinances that exactly like this dense and intense project it's not an R4 project so its name has been changed to PUD so what will this PUD be like it will be like the Jamestown Town Homes at 63rd May Avenue the Bricktown Town hos houses the Hill district near i235 in Walnut or the wheeler District on Southwestern but all of those examples are near near Urban streets streets with higher traffic counts or highways PUD 2025 is surrounded by single family R1 homes and a FEMA flood zone they need to build a half mile road to even get to the nearest arterial and that arterial sometimes floods the impervious density and increased runoff created by changing this uh horse farm into high density project is going to be difficult to solve the runoff with the developers budget civil engineers can only do so much magic this PUD has an extremely limited amount of land that is not being built upon that would be expected to increase the storm water runoff and hold it a new retention facility on a tight budget I don't think so and development of the land west of tract one will only exacerbate the storm water runoff problem and U no one knows at this point what that would be I appreciate you listening to my six reasons Wellington Park requests you vote to deny this project and I'd be happy to answer answer any questions okay um Mr Sil thank you for your conversation that we've been able to have I know one of those um questions and con and requests was to lessen um the development by six um and they have agreed to that uh please let me know your thoughts from that ask the items that we have agreed to with the developer we appreciate him incorporating those was that your question yes and with the in addition today from our conversation this morning they have agreed to lessen um the development by six units six units yes so just curious to know uh where we are with that if they will agree to provide the 60 ft at the perimeter by reducing six units i' be happy with that okay but we want to see the 60 foot clear required by R4 zoning ordinances okay thank you very much thank you okay well that concludes the residents who signed up to speak so if I may one of the individuals said the suggestion was make this a duplex development the it the item right before this which was also in your your ward was a a duplex development on Coal Train the density of that development was 10.4 units per acre this product is less dense than that duplex development so what we've tried to provide is a attached single family this is not a traditional Garden style apartment where you would expect to see densities pushing 20 to 30 dwelling units per acre this is less dense than most duplex duplex projects that you see come before you the the drainage piece you know the city will require us to do a drainage analysis we'll have to provide that to Public Works only after they have reviewed it and approve of what we suggest will we be able to move forward with development of this parcel we will have to show why we comply with city ordinance as well as state law it's also worth noting that the city just passed a heightened drainage ordinance that is what we will have to adhere to um and in terms of the 60 foot I I think there's con confusion our four bulk Sanders do not require 60 foot setback what it says is within the first 60 fet it would be single story what we're suggesting is rather than have single story within 60 feet and push higher buildings to the West because then what happens is after 60 feet there's really no height requirement as long as you meet a bulk PL standard you can go as high as you want so what we're saying is we're going to limit it to two stories and rather than have single story within 60 ft and our parking lot up against the property line which is what R4 would allow we're going to provide a 20ft landscape buffer and then cap our height at less than what an R1 neighborhood would otherwise allow we think that that is a better solution and a an easier transition from the R1 neighborhood to this attached single family neighborhood we're happy to continue to work with the neighbors as we move forward we've committed to providing them the drainage study we've committed to a specific plan where it'll be heard at Planning Commission and another public hearing um I'm not sure what else this particular client can do councilman stone look like you had a question just a quick question yes when you said less you're talking taking it from Two and a Half stories to two stories is that right yes okay are there any other questions um my my concern in in this develop I understand we have two tracks is the track one and and I I know this is very this is dense compared to what we had before us before are there examples of what the town houses or those Town Homes will look like as far as this is concerned so he's got a a similar product that he's doing in edmin and we brought elevations to all of the neighborhood meetings and if I could I I do want to correct that the comment was made that we didn't meet with them before we actually met on June 11th with Mr grabit so June 11th is when we met to discuss the second rendition of this development we didn't file the PD till July 11th so we met a full month before we filed the p and then again met you know after Planning Commission so we we have met we've brought elevations to to all of the meetings we've had showing them what it is he intends to build but in terms of conceptually what it would look like it's you know attached single family you think of the Hill the hill is taller I think those are three story units but it's an inline single family where you would have walk up to each of them and I know there was also a conversation as far as sidewalks um and being able to develop this as far as this neighborhood is concerned with with that connection uh what are we doing in that so sidewalks are required the request was that we not connect sidewalks with them uh which we've agreed to to um I'm not sure RightWay even touches it but sidewalks will be required on the arterial and throughout the development pursu to city ordinances okay um Mr Bray I see you um if you can make it brief seconds to a minute I I can handle that okay this boils down to a very simple question and that is whether this R for development budding an R1 development with structures that can be from 150 to 200 ft wide 40 ft from the property line of an R1 development is that compatible with uh the surrounding area surrounding zoning and I don't think it is and that's what it boils down to can I ask U maybe it's for councilwoman maybe I'm not sure who who wants to take a a go at this but um I I always struggle when I hear this compatibility argument because I as you might know live in the Poo which has four plexes duplexes eight plexes on story Bungalows twostory tutor you know what I mean like we there's a Harmony there and I I I mean that word there is a Harmony in the housing though the housing type varies and when I heard ear earlier someone I think it might have been you say I can't imagine it's a single family living under but I can because that's literally the reality in the Poo we have families poo is in your city poo is the oldest commercial Corridor neighborhood built outside of downtown the oldest one same guy who designed the coma Park designed it GA Nichols so I don't understand what I want to know is I hear your concern about the buffer I think creating Harmony that that seem to be where you and the person who's here with you seem to be the most concerned is like oh my I like this concern of the transition from this development into yours can you all not do something about that aspect of it like this you're saying 20 but you wanted to extend it a little bit more is that not so do to make it 60 ft from the r one property line to the structure in the R4 and I I'll say that's the difficulty as far as under even for me to understand that part of even what you're saying for the concessions and and my question would be to Mr Box as we lessen the density uh by six H how would that be incorporated as far as if there's a possibility for um that buffer or or um what that could look like in this particular development just curious so we don't know exactly what the final design will look like because we modified that this morning uh but it it wouldn't it wouldn't slide everything further away what you'd end up losing is just six units six units spread somewhere throughout the development okay I know they didn't answer your question but thoughts I I mean I think that word harmony really matters and I it seems like the I I don't want to put words in the mouth of the residents but it seems like if there can be some sort of transition and it seems like the amount of space is what your is that your concern I don't want to put words in your mouth yeah I think there needs to be some kind of transition between the R1 and and R4 development it's a bigger transition than what it would be required to be under the code I understand that I'm also I guess asking you to take into consideration like you're hearing though from a resident resident say that they have this concern about you know well I'm in my backyard and now this if I heard your analogy earlier you were saying that the space from your house to the next house on the other side of the street is about 100 feet and I think you're kind of saying can I have something similar with this so you see what that's what I'm hearing yeah and so the example I gave if if we decided we're just going to Zone this R1 single family what you'd have is rather than a 20 foot buffer and then around 20 feet before you get to a twostory structure every 50 feet you would have a two and a half story home 10 feet off the property line R1 only requires a 10-ft building line setback for a rear yard so looking out the back if we're talking about the built environment they're going to be it's going to be a 40 feet before you hit a structure with 20 feet of landscaping in the event that was single family which I think is what they're saying in their mind compatible means identical you would have fence 10 ft 2 and 1 half story structure so and then every 50 fet another house but R1 does require 5,000 square foot minimum lot size does it so what I'm saying is if the concern is what does it feel like behind their backyard this is a softer transition than if it were r one single family I'll take my chances on the R1 single family okay thank you Mr Bray I appreciate that okay um my my concern is is still looking at at that that particular and and let me say this while we're on this subject and this has nothing to do with this particular particular development but this is about our approach to puds in development overall as far as our zoning applications we have to find a way to define what town homes look like and not necessarily R4 or R2 but what do we drill down to say that's what this use is instead of us being able to take a little here and explain it there and still take a little here and add that here and now we made up something brand new um that confuses everybody in my opinion as far as how we get to what the dwelling units per acre are supposed to technically be defined as and I hope that makes sense to everyone here because um this is something again that I'm facing in another development for my residents because we had different developers come to the table and have a different vision and when you have your your neighbors who say say yes to one thing and expect that thing and now we're coming back a whole 6 months to a year later asking for something totally different it is very frustrating um and confusing in in that process of how we Define what use is for this in comparison to the use for that so I just hope um for our planning department that that is something we will continue to look into as we are working through our zoning uh code update and as well as how these puds and uh spuds are presented to to our body because of the fact again that there are concessions that can be made in both the Pud and the Spud uh in relation to what we see presented before us today so um I I know we're we're working through the lessoning of those those eight units oh sorry six units my bad although I'm sure they wouldn't mind eight um if if you don't mind can we can we just table this for a couple weeks I want to be able to talk through this one more time um and and I'm so sorry to have to do this to y'all but I I just I want to really drill down some of these other things um in in relation to this particular application and um get a couple more explanations from our planning department in relation to these particular uses and how we Define them as well so uh if you don't mind U for our for our our Council and and thank you to our residents that showed up today I hope you understand and my ask to do this is uh to to look at it and I again Mr Box and to your applicant I apologize but please just give me um give me a couple more weeks and we will visit and continue to work through this especially now with the fact of us being able to lessen that by six uh that possibility and um truly defining the 9.3 uh dwelling units now would be less of than 9.3 dwelling units per acre and if there needs to be another uh Amendment to the master design statement we're able to do that and be done as far as this application request is concerned whether we decide to approve or deny this application but um after in two weeks I will not ask for us to defer this again so it will be a final decision in two weeks uh but I will ask that we do that um if the council will allow for that Okay so we've got uh a motion to defer I would think we would consider this applicable to both items D1 and D2 and this would be for two weeks got a motion in a second cast your votes thank you passes unanimously all right 11e is an ordinance on Final hearing it was recommended for approval uh rezoning 2421 Southwest 112 from R1 to Spud 1643 councilman hle no one has signed up to speak uh this is a unique zoning thing I think David box is the one who did it but we're allowing an Adu for a family member so I the neighbors protested but took it back when they found out why so I'm I'll move for approval we have a motion in a second for item e cast your votes passes unanimously item 11 f is an ordinance on Final hearing that was recommended for approval resoning 10807 Southwest 29th from PUD 1976 and doua to SP 1650 uh councilwoman PE no one has signed up to speak thank you mayor uh no protest at the Planning Commission I'll move for approval got a motion in a second cast your votes passes unanimously item G is an ordinance on Final hearing it was recommended for approval resoning 3751 Southwest 15 from PUD 1417 Sr o and ae2 to Spud 1658 srod and ae2 councilwoman pck no one sign up to speak thank you mayor I don't know if anybody's had an opportunity to look at the uh offering on this particular development but it is right along our River we had a presentation at the river trust a week or so ago had the opportunity to visit with the applicant it's pretty cool I'm super excited about it just wanted to say that I'll move her approval got a motion in a second cast your votes passes unanimously item H is an ordinance on Final hearing it was recommended for approval resoning 17516 Northwestern from Spud 1333 to Spud 1660 councilman Sten ciper no and has signed up to speak thank you uh Planning Commission recommended approval there were no protests so at this time i' moveed to approve the item a motion second cast your votes passes unanimously item is an ordinance on Final hearing it was recommended for approval resoning 2200 Northwest 12 and 1215 North Barnes from R2 to SPD 1661 councilwoman Hammond know is sign up to speak gu this is just um resoning to increase some density so I'll move for approval have a motion in a second cast your votes Miss D I vote Yes passes unanimously item J is an ordinance on Final hearing that was recommended for approval resoning 1912 Northwest 12 from R2 to sd1 1664 councilwoman Hammond no one assigned to speak um yes this was also um to do some multif family and it was uh recommended for approval by the Planning Commission I will move for approval I have a motion a second cast your votes yes Miss dantina passes unanimously item k an ordinance on Final hearing it was recommended for approval resounding 1728 Northwest 13th from R2 to spd1 1665 uh councilwoman ham and know as CER speak um yes just some more uh increased uh density with a mix of um single 2 three four family uh zoning so I'll move for approval motion second cast your boats yes I'm goingo my computer passes unanimously item L is an ordinance on Final hearing that was recommended for approval closing a portion of the eastwest rideway and Northwest 4th a portion of the north south rideway of north Harvey and a portion of the east west alley in Block 47 of the Oklahoma City original Edition supplemental plat uh councilwoman Hammond know and a center speak yes this is as you mentioned been just closing some rights of way um and I will move for approval have a motion in a second cast your votes passes unanimously item m is an ordinance on Final hearing it was recommended for approval closing a portion of a North South Valley in Block 15 of nce Edition a portion of the Lynwood Boulevard rideway and a portion of the north Klein Avenue rideway generally west of Northwestern Avenue and north of Northwest 6th councilwoman Hamond known to time to speak I will move for approval Motion in a second cast your votes passes unanimously item in is an ordinance on final hearing uh this is the cleanup uh ordinance on the fee Updates this is the third of three meetings on this topic so it was already presented and already had a public hearing if there's no other comments or questions we could take up final consideration today have a motion in a second cast your votes passes unanimously okay item o uh this is an ordinance proposal to be introduced today set for public hearing October 22nd and final hearing on November 5th uh relating to the general schedule of fees and we have a presentation on this yes Vanessa a Vanessa agalar with the uh utilities department is going to introduce this item give us some context to it and then introduced our consultant the on the uh regarding the rate increase proposed rate increases for our water and wastewater utility good morning mayor and Council Vanessa agular with the utilities department so with this agenda item we have a presentation on the rate recommendation on behalf of the Oklahoma City water utilities trust we provide water Wastewater and trash collection services to Oklahoma City as well as Water and Wastewater services to 18 surrounding communities serving approximately 1.4 million people in central Oklahoma part of our mission is is to support Public Safety Public Health Safeguard the environment and enable economic Prosperity the essential Services we provide have enabled growth and development in central Oklahoma for the past Century our capital Improvement and Investments over the next 10 years into infrastructure and water supply will continue to enable us to meet growth and system demands for central Oklahoma to 2060 every four to five years the Oklahoma City water utilities trust engages experts to conduct studies of what's the updated cost of each of the three Utility Systems to provide service to our customers the last study was conducted in 2020 2021 since then we've seen significant variance to the assumptions that we previously forecasted therefore we've retained our experts raap Tellis Consultants to do a midterm reevaluation of the cost to provide services by each of the three Utilities in this study the Consultants look at the cost by each customer class and within each customer class we look at at how users are placing impact on our system therefore we look at recovering peaking cost from users that place more of the impact on our system which causes us to ensure that we have the capacity both at our plants and throughout the line distribution system to meet those peaking demands our low and average volume users that don't place as much of that peaking cost on our system benefit from lower utility bills where we seek to recover more of those peaking cost related costs from those high volume users we strive to achieve the balance between affordability in our utility bills but also striving to meet the sustainability in our system where we're continuing to invest in the capital infrastructure and ensuring that we have a reliable system and that we have water supply for generations to come therefore our goal with this study is to ensure that we have the revenue required re Ms to continue to meet the service levels and demand of our customers for the foreseeable future this rate plan recommendation is a five-year rate recommendation where we strive to keep the same rate structure but just looking at updating the costs with that I have with me Terry B with rael's consultant who's going to go through the presentation and provide you an overview of the drivers sample Bill impacts by various customer classes as well as comparable Bill surveys to different communities thank you Vanessa uh mayor members of council good morning um I have a brief presentation for you today um just to advance this okay thank you thank you if you could Advance the next slide so um as as you all know and members of the public know we've experienced some pretty significant inflation over the last several years since covid and since the last time the engagement was done I think Vanessa did a good job describing how a lot of this inflation has not been uh was not originally factored into the original plan and we want to talk a little bit about some of the specifics about inflation to the cost of the utility operations as well as what are the cons qu the impacts associated with that the chart uh to the top right that you see there shows the cumul amount of infl over the last several years along with inflation to uh the uh construction uh producer price index um now one of the things that we know is that utilities um have a different composition of cost than the Consumer basket of goods commonly within the CPI so we want to run you through a few other um data points about uh drivers for inflation to the utility one of those is electricity costs we've seen over that same period of time to the current budget about an 85% increase in uh electricity costs as well as chemical costs 155% and labor costs about 37% these are pretty um you know substantial amounts of the total operating cost for the utilities and um in addition to that I mentioned the capital cost well uh interest rates on financing for the capital costs have also doubled you can see see here the total increases for a variety of these things that specifically affect utilities so what are the consequences um of this higher inflation it translates to uh less cash flow available for Capital reinvestment so if we think about our revenues minus um our operating costs what's available for capital reinvestment is reduced and so uh this is an important point that carries into our next slide here which is where we're going to talk a little bit about the capital needs of the system for you um what's being presented here in the table in the charts uh you know propos um funded represents the capital spending that we've rate plan and that's been adjusted for uh the amount of funding that's available given that we' have this reduced cash flow from the higher inflation that means that you know we we aren't able to fund about 2.3 billion under the proposed plan that's what uh is need needed to fully fund the system as Vanessa touched on earlier um I want to um just make a few other points before we move on you'll notice um a pretty steep increase in spending from 2024 to 2025 this is related to financing challenges associated with uh the aoka uh pipeline which represents a generational water supply which would provide capacity through 2060 um we have the funding identified in 2025 but the the two bars you'll notice uh in the bottom right hand chart provide an example between the amount of spending under the F funded versus the proposed plan and you not notice that represents what we aren't able to fund versus uh the proposed plan and you notice that those differentials um the only increase over time it's important to note that the prop proposed plan over 90% of these projects are for Ability um the adopted plan and we don't uh fully fund these Capital needs well for one U they're not eliminated these projects they're simply deferred inflation to the capital costs and result in higher rates in future years for rate payers we believe um the other uh key point is it reduces resiliency and reliability if we can't move forward with these projects and impacts um the utility's ability to meet its level of service requirements and um availability of of water so it could be the amount of infrastructure required to serve each customer on a per capita basis more infrastructure require have differences in the financial conditions among these utilities uh do we have subsidies from the general fund are they they need to or on they on the precipice of some significant rate increases and lastly there could be other issues related to their ability to implement rate increases uh if you have to take it to a vote a referendum on the issuance of debt can limit your ability to issue debt thereby executing your CIP and raising rate these um characteristics are sort of exemplified within this local fee comparison um we know that all of these utility that we aot and we fully expect that many of the utilities here if not all of them are going to be facing increases to their rates we know that uh as Vanessa mentioned um sell customers of the utility and purchase water from the utility uh the increases that we'll be talking about to later on about the wholesale suppliers will affect these uh entities and we know that uh that's going to put more pressure just on the water side to their rates say they have to um uh acquire more water supply from the utilities uh over time one point that I'll make about this slide and even the next is that um the utility is in the middle of the pack and that even with the proposed change it doesn't change its relative position so now uh examining kind of more regionally how do we look uh you'll notice that uh we have um a number of utilities to the left and a number of utilities right so we spent a little bit time researching you know what are some of the um differences and the utility operations that might contribute to the variances in the rate um and so we'll pick on some of the more extreme examples in this comparison city of Dallas um aquo has roughly 7,500 miles of line this this um you know to put in members of the public who may be following along that allows you to travel 00 miles is so substantial amount of capital investment and infrastructure to provide service within the community Dallas has roughly 9,000 miles line the difference is that the city of Dallas has roughly three times the amount of finished water being sold to the system providing for substantial amounts of economies of scale relative to where we're at substantially greater Wholesale customer base and what we have here uh metrics contributing for the lower rates that you see here um some of the other ones to the left may receive subsidies from general fund we know of at least one uh based on a review of their audited financial statements um what could contribute to the rates being higher uh we know that um uh some some identified are under consent agree and you know the utility trust here has worked and managed to stay out of consent decree and maintain through the um strong management um not only from staff but from uh the the council and the trust uh and the leadership there so I mentioned earlier you know we ran you through the residential impacts how we compare there let's talk a little bit about commercial and then uh our our Solid Waste rates and wholesale customers um so when we're looking at these Water and Sewer uh charges for commercial impacts we notice that uh on aage average among the different types of businesses that we have a roughly the same percentage increase we know that our commercial customers tend to use um more than our typical residential customers and that's why you see the percentage increases um slightly higher but generally speaking they're all consistent among these different uh impacts relative to what's adopted we we already presented the total impacts to the residential customers for the water uh the sewer and the solid waste on a combined basis we we want to provide a little bit more detail uh just to call out the solid waste operations uh you'll notice here each year-over-year about 65 cents greater per month for the one to two cart service um and that to the water and sewer haven't been as significant as what we were seeing with the um uh excuse me Solid Waste has not been as significant as what we were seeing with the water and sewer increases so finally before closing out we just want to talk about that partnership with our wholesale customers I mentioned earlier how Dallas has U substantially more finished water and has a lower bill on that comparison um it's a true partnership that the utilities has with its wholesale providers uh you know aqu has a substantial investment in water supply lines over 100 miles and one of the runs um these are effectively Capital Investments that represent to the most part a fixed cost if we can spread those costs over more gallons of water sold that helps lower the utility rates on a per unit basis for our residential customers so there's a a corresponding benefit that retail customers receive from the wholesale partnership uh that akut uh provides um relative to the effects to the Wholesale customer rates you can see the chart at the bottom right in the near- term about an 8% increase dropping down to about 5 and a half% per year over this 5year plan the prior plan averaged about 5 % the current Planet about 7% so just to conclude want to highlight a few key points um we mentioned the inflation that had an effect where uh since the last study we're about 15% higher on our operating costs than what we had previously forecasted our Capital needs are greater we had to um uh incur higher interest costs because of the higher uh interest rates that we've seen and if we take no action the effect is is that under the current plan we would have to defer close to 2.3 billion in funding relative to the proposed plan this all um relates back to the reliability and the resiliency of the utility um the proposed plan just to kind of remind you assumes that we're going to phase these increases over multiple years for the benefit of the rate payers that it's seeking to maintain the existing rate structure for the benefit of the low volume users um that the costs are proportional and that they follow the same cost of service and uh finally that this proposed plan uh will achieve all of the policy objectives for the utility and with that we'd like to open up for any questions you may have at this time I just have a couple um from hearing that and and first thank you for the presentation and I want to reemphasize my gratitude to miss Vanessa for bringing this conversation to our town hall that we have for w s um it gains slow claps because clearly um people learned that we were increasing um their utilities so my my question as we look at that comparison chart um my first one as far as how those particular cities run in comparison to Oklahoma as a state with us using sales tax dollars for that revenue and ways we are able to use our general fund um my question of I heard sub cities of general fund which cities do we know of that that happened to where they were able to use that and also um as far as us as our city what could that look like and I asked that because I had one of my neighbors um in one of my neighborhood association areas call me as they are were assisting to help uh one of their residents with their water bill so we're experiencing you know extreme um things that are happening already for residents and now we're about to look at a proposed increase and those things while we say they are very minimal they are not uh to your average customer depending on their circumstances so just curious as we look at those things uh what those Dynamics look like as well and um I know we looked at the lowest but I'm curious as far as those High hes um that we're looking at for possibly like St Louis which is a comparable City to Oklahoma City um and and even Tulsa as we look at at where they are uh with their comparison yes thank you um council member U so uh in this comparison that you see before you uh through a review of the audited financial statements we know of at least for worth that received a transfer from the general fund for the uh fiscal year 2023 we could explore in Greater detail to see over the last several years let's say what uh H you know have other utilities received transfers as far as you know uh the the transfers that could be made to aqu it's a separate trust and uh I would probably have to defer to staff to better answer your question I can take that that the reality of us moving money out of the general fund to Aqua to help offset would be things you know we'd have to do less in the general fund it would take away funding from streets or Parks public works from you know our other functions in the general fund that we function that we we support with the tax dollars it would have to take away from those things we'd have to do less of something else to be able to support that yeah and I think um you know I think we all understand and and it is an unfortunate thing to have to be here today uh you know making this presentation for higher rates given that you know it's impacting everyone um but you know the utilities trust is set up as an Enterprise fund and you know we're tasked with developing these Financial plans to ensure that as Vanessa mentioned that the utilities can fully recover the cost of service because if we can't do that then we're going to enter into challenges related to the resiliency and reliability of the system um and and so it has to be operated as business and and and that sometimes means that we have to come back and and make these requests and and thank you for that and I guess my followup and this is not really pertaining to you but this is for our our city to look at um is and I know we had mentioned this in one of our briefings that we had is how we continue to educate and make available those resources in relation to our customers when it comes to those hardships that may arise now because of a a new circumstance and again not to say this is going to happen to everybody but it's going to happen because it's already happening so um being able to have uh that opportunity of what that looks like I hope we will continue to have that conversation as well council member we have a couple of programs one is we have the uh um we have a partnership with the Salvation Army and when somebody calls in and says hey I'm I'm having a problem with my bill or we contact them because they're behind on their bill we can line them up with the Salvation Army and and our our rate pairs actually contribute money uh a Roundup program to the Salvation Army where we can help them with their water bill in addition to that we have programs where we can put them on a payment plan to help flatten out those peaks in in the summertime those kinds of things and then finally we had the the lwop federally funded um money that came into all utilities across the us to help people pay their water bill and we're campaigning hard to to continue that program uh through Congress so there are a number of opportunities to help people who are struggling a bit uh to pay their water bills so that so that we don't have to go turn them off okay thank you thank you well the question on the table today is just introduction uh then a public hearing on October 22 and a final hearing on November 5th so we could take a motion have a motion in a second cast your votes passes unanimously okay item p is the second of three meetings on a consolidation of building code boards this is just a public hearing Amy has anyone signed up to speak no they haven't they have not so we'll close that public hearing item Q is the second of three meetings uh on a storm water fee and uh Amy has anyone signed to speak under this public hearing no they haven't they have not and so we'll close that public hearing and move to item r one this is the public hearing regarding the dilapidated structures here listed Amy has anyone signed up to speak they have not they have not so we'll advance to the resolution at R2 declaring that the structures are dilapidated got a motion in a second cast your votes passes unanimously okay item 11 S1 is a public heing regarding the unsecured structures here listed Amy has anyone signed up to speak no they haven't not so mayor I'd like to ask that we defer item M as in Mary okay for two weeks all right item M 813 Northeast 35th Street the motion is to defer that for two weeks we have a motion in a second cast your votes passes unanimously item is deferred okay now we'll uh advance to the resolution founded S2 declaring that the remaining structures are unsecured got a motion in a second cast your votes passes unanimously okay T1 is the public heing regarding the abandoned buildings here listed uh councilwoman nice I presume you'd like to defer item I yes please okay let's take a motion on that we have a motion in a second toer item 11 t1i cast your votes didn't didn't get me there um there we go all right passes unanimously Amy has anyone signed up to speak on the public hearing at T1 no they haven't they have not so we'll advance to the resolution at T to declaring the buildings are abandoned c a motion and a second cast your votes passes unanimously okay item U is a joint resolution with the Oklahoma City Economic Development trust certifying that project telephone a proposed to feature film is an eligible project um and approving an allocation not to exceed 12,20 I think we have a presentation and vice mayor P presiding good morning council members I'm Jill Simpson okom City film and creative Industries Office and I'm bringing you a rebate application for project code name telephone it's a small independent feature film Supernatural Thriller um I just as I've been sitting here have new dates revised dates they're starting January 27th and um filming will be for 30 days the producer is has connections to Oklahoma City he has spent his career in advertising and marketing and has wants to venture into film he wants to bring us a slate of projects so this hopefully is the first of several in the $4 million range which is something we're really excited about that's a good way to keep our crew working and um the industry grow growing they'll be based at filmmaker Ranch which is in Oklahoma City they're utilizing Sound Stage space and post Production Services there um 94% of the crew is Oklahoma City based anticipated expenditures goods and services within City Limits crew within a seven count region is a little over 2.7 million they are pre-qualified or I'm working to pre-qualify them at the 5% level which means their expenditures meet the mark and um they're filming at least 50% of their days in Oklahoma City again their their Hub will be at filmmaker Ranch and they're pre-qualified for the state rebate for the rebate is$ 128,000 and20 their estimated number of local Oklahoma City metro area hires is 67 um number of working days man days when you take the number of crew times the 30 days in seven days again 94% of Oklahoma City residents will be their crew and support services um qualifying income labor is a little over two million shooting schedule 22 days is on the Sound Stage which is really a good thing 94% of crew are local 100% of vendors will be locals Tech Talent will be our film editors composers colorists and Engineers um contains information once we run the application through the economic impact modeler uh the total local economic impact will be 6.2 million for this project jobs supported direct and indirect 343 labor income roughly 83,000 so total qualifying expenditures is a little over 2.5 million taxable income from those expenditures are 235,000 423 and below the line salary in pum almost 1.2 million and above the line salary is capped at 25% of the total spend so that's just a little under $700,000 and that brings us to that 5% amount of 8,020 does anybody have any questions Jill thank you thank you Jill and we can take a motion on the item and the item passes item 11 v a joint resolution with the Oklahoma City Economic Development trust is an allocation to the city in the amount not to exceed 4.7 million and some change for TF uh for Tiff 8 and we've got a presentation from Scott Fairman Scott Fairman our assistant Parks director will give us presentation on this allocation and project uh that is south of scissor tail Park work good morning Council I'm excited to be here to to to present this to you this morning um so Wy post Park North so they pictur you can see scissor Tel there in the blue lower scissor Tel yellow um Manuel Perez there outline in red to give you some context there so Wy post Park in the green is is is the park that we're talking about today and specifically the north um shore of the park on the north side of the river so we have Robinson to the East and Walker to the West um and also adjacent um to the South with the bike lane and a in a trail that's that's that's slated for construction as well and so this is really two projects kind of come come to one um at this site um you're all aware of uh the USS Oklahoma City um Park um organization that's come and asked the city uh last year to to enter in anou to to place this site here it was about a fiveyear process for them to find a site we're really excited that they chose while he postart to do that so the main feature of the memorial again this is the memorial portion of the project is going to be um the the sell and die planes of the USS Oklahoma City um um architecture or some other pieces that they're looking to bring in um and also the Flag Plaza um again here's kind of the scale of of that uh sail and die planes there um and really what this gives you a good picture of here is kind of the plaza intent of the space so there's intention to have various you know ceremonies and celebrations here national holidays Navy days um celebrations uh around those types of of activities again some more imagery of some of the elements that could be there a Canon um the the USS Oklahoma City um organization is really looking to to to bring in a lot of elements to display here here um at this side again another is a propeller I think they they call it a screw but really what the imagery here really shows is the interpretive walls um that this facility will have that's going to going to speak to the sailors that were on these on this ship and also uh the the missions and and various things the history of of the boat itself imy of what what could be if if if they can can can get some of these other elements in but the the real thing that we wanted to demonstrate here was the location of that um um you know this is looking South um from Harvey and so it's it's a very dramatic statement and really put puts an exclamation point on the cshore you know kind of Park system you know this is different and unique than what we see at scissor Tel what we see across the river at at South Wy post Park even with its fairly new improvements there and again just kind of an oversight imagery here but this this you know one the the the black granite that you see there that represents it's about it's about the size of a football field um be really grand um but again it's that Plaza and that place to to connect um but also the trail system runs right through the space And so there's going to be an interaction um of of passive and active use um putting a lot of eyes on it putting a lot of attent really giving it the the demonstration that it deserves so these are more of the park elements that that's looking to be introduced this is a rendering of the river overlooks again activating the river in a way that in our Park system um and so some of this other imagery is some play equipment and Plaza spaces but you'll notice it's it's definitely not a traditional design um and I think this will be unique and and bring a lot of um interest and attention to the space as well again another vision of the Overlook um with some with some passive use there but again the trail runs right through this space and so a lot of activity a lot of interest um a lot of activation to the Waterfront this is a illustration of a playground um that's slated to be constructed underneath the Robinson Bridge which is a very unique um opportunity to to activate some some space that's T typically not activated it's it's shaded which is great in the summertime um it provides some cover it uh it really is a unique opportunity and we've seen this be successful in other other cities um around the us and it we're excited to have an opportunity to do something like that here again just some other renderings again you can see this is very non-traditional looking equipment um it provides a lot of opportunity for for people of of all abilities um and social interactions um and opportunities for additional art and other cultural um improvements this is imagery of a Amphitheater that's that's planned to be at the at the park um obviously this could host concerts and outdoor festivities and and again just intentionally activating the the Waterfront more than than we've had an opportunity to in this in this type of Park setting before here you can kind of see it's a tiered lawn um type activity and the unique thing about this Amphitheater at at this park it really complements the memorial and its location and so therefore if they're if they're having activities at the memorial that might outgrow that Plaza space or they want to have two or three different things happen and this is going to complement that very well and some additional renderings of of non-traditional Play Elements you can see these are kind of Earth and mounds and um social spaces within those um so it's it it really will be unique um in our Park system as far as the play equipment interaction with with with the with the park this is the uh it's kind of a combination of a original master plan for the park with our first rendition of of implementing um the usss Oklahoma City into that um it's it's since changed um and so more the ship is obviously closer to souless 15th Street now and centered on Harvey like like i' mentioned um providing a really dramatic view of that which you you'll also see from from Robinson as well um so it just it's a really um unique opportunity to combine the two projects into one space and and and and make it a real jewel in the park system so the project budget here um you can see So currently um arpa funds can pay for the base bid of the project um beyond that is is what the Tiff request is for um for the memorial and for some alternates to do some of those um additional elements that i' shown with that I'll take any questions I just like to say this is a a great day for parks and for the citizens of Oklahoma um Nikki and I were lucky enough to go to the decommissioning and uh what Bradley oh Bradley too I forgot sorry Bradley thank you and um what did he say said I would never forget he's unforg at any rate um I never knew what a decommissioning would be like and I thought maybe there'd be 20 30 40 people there there were hundreds and hundreds hundreds and hundreds of past Sailors that sailed on this submarine and as I talked to them over and over one of the one of the really neat things about the submarine is that the galley and the restaurant compartment was called catalans and a lot of these Sailors over and over told me they come to Oklahoma City to see uh the city and learn about the city and but they also always go to Catlin so this is a great day uh this work started Debbie seven eight nine years ago um the one thing learned about Parks like I said it takes a long time to create a park uh so everybody should be very proud of this thank you and and I'll reemphasize um for my first decommissioning and understanding the importance of this type of ship um that had been in service at least 30 years and I think uh there's a uniqueness to to this to the point of um of what him bringing up Miss Debbie is her relationship with all of those captains and and the many many folks uh that came through to continue to establish that relationship with Oklahoma City that weren't from Oklahoma City but were on USS Oklahoma City so I think those things are are extremely important so uh I think there should be a naming of something just putting that in in somebody's ear um of a of a lovely lady who kept in contact with those folks but I I say that also in the in the lens of us being able to really do some good things with this uh approach as far as the ability to use uh the diversity um in in ways that we can of including all of those service members that we know have one been a part of USS Oklahoma City but even um looking at what some of those naming possibilities could be for p P of veterans that may have served on any um ship that were part of of the fabric of of Oklahoma especially you know when we think of Tinker Air Force Space and them having that Navy component um at the base there is you know so many different relationships that can come of this so I I guess besides that my my question and I I did see that it was answered more so in in the breakdown of the funding is how our state can be a particip IP in the tourism aspect and and being able to you know put some put some money up if you will uh to look at how these things can be supported especially for this part this particular Park opportunity um and I'll leave uh with this comment last semester uh this was a part of of our our assignment was the neighborhood and this area and to the surprise of a lot of us most of the students in the class and different projects use that particular area for a park and I don't think any of them clearly these plans hadn't been developed in that way yet so it sounds as if this is something that a a lot of folks especially those in the in the planning uh world as far as students are concerned also Envision something such as this so I I would say this is a this is a beautiful way to honor those who have served and I have family members who served in in the Navy so this is very near and dear to me to see how this uh is implemented within our city and I just like to Echo all the council members kind comments you thank you to Debbie Martin and everyone that's been involved in bringing this forward um like councilwoman ni I have uh family members that were in the Navy or in the CBS and so you know to have the boat come back to City and parts of it to be here to be recognized and the submariners we may never know all the stories that this boat uh could tell about all of the efforts that it went to to protect our nation and our world and so we just want to appreciate those Sailors through the process so thanks for the presentation it was excellent can I just ask uh would you mind putting back on the screen the funding breakdown please great uh so I see that there's Alternatives here and some of the aspects that I'm particularly intrigued with you mentioned the Robinson Bridge Under plasm play space and I'm very excited about that but that's an alternative here that's correct and so I guess my question is I guess we're hoping that should the bids come in lower that then we would be able to add Alternatives one two three and four is that correct the funding that's being requested here we anticipate covering all of those altern so you do yes okay I'm just making sure because you know normally when there's the Alternatives right okay because I I think those are some really unique um infrastructure things and I didn't want them to Fall by the wayside there so thanks thank you Scott thank you we can make a motion on the resolution and the item passes unanimously moving on next is item W resolution approving amendments to the City of Oklahoma City Housing Programs policies for loan and Grant programs funded by the US Department of hous Housing and Urban Development and I understand that uh Mr Todd Smith with planning yes Todd Smith Federal program manager for planning we just give us a quick update on the changes that are proposed here thank you Council um my name is Todd Smith obviously a federal programs manager for the Housing Community Development Department uh We've from time to time when Federal Regulations state and city regulations change we have to update our policies to be in line with those and so we are a lot of the updates that we're doing there is into to align with those those um those those rules and regulations there um and we also took this opportunity to take a take a look at this take a fresh look at this with new eyes and so what we did is we moved a lot of things that were redundant in language so that there's not confusion to anybody there and we moved that all into our what we call our home chapter of the the first chapter of of the policies there and it's our general regulations and that those will touch all the other programs that we go about and so it's shorten a little bit of those chapters but it also what it does is it follows a life cycle of an application so it starts from when somebody applies to all the way to the program's completion so it kind of uses that logic there as well with with that logic we brought in the contractor regulations as well and so a lot of those regulations we looked at those again uh to make sure that we're in compliance with all the the different regulations that are there um we added some things that were kind of missing from those like discrimination uh requirements that they have to abide by Equal Opportunity Employment we also as also added a component with um valuation component for our citiz for homeowners that we that we service that if they evaluate that contractor poorly we gives us the ability to debar them and so obviously we wanted to make sure that we're doing a service to our citizens there so and then also we asked also added a uh you know we had a we've had issues in the past where contractors won't honor their warranty period so we made that another criteria for Department as well so uh the other thing was is that uh the state regulations changed uh the retainage that we can that we can hold back on a contract was like two and a half% from 5% that we normally do and at that point it was very administratively burdened for our staff and for our finance staff to continue to do that so we've removed that we removed that regulation uh we don't have to go up to that 2 and a half% we just we were just removed it uh so that that will also looking back if somebody doesn't we always held that money back for make sure warranty work was getting done and since it was a uh kind of a a limited amount of money there we just kind of felt like it was and also we put in that compliance with you had to do your warranty work and if you don't then we're just you're not going to be able to work for us so uh the other thing we did is we increased uh program maximums limits uh labor materials have skyrocketed and there's materials have come down from when I first came on and but labor has has actually kind of continued to go up as inflation has went up so for our exterior home repair program we've increased it from 23,000 to 24,000 and keeping us in compliance with some of the other regulations that don't get triggered with that and also with our our whole house program and general repayment program we've uh increased our lead based paint grant that we give to homeowners they are from 15,000 to 20,000 and then uh the rehab loan and uh uh grant program that we have there the Deferred Loan program we've went from 42 42,000 up to 60,000 so a a general repayment or or a uh whole house program could potentially get up to $80,000 for that so which we felt like there's a lot of projects we weren't going to be able to do to get them up to a minimum Property Standards to follow into some of those regulations so uh the other thing we did was we updated our home ownership uh uh partnership program uh and this this is we haven't done this program in quite some time but it's an opportunity program for us to build uh build or rehab some homes that come to our come our way through the city and um but it we we wanted to align that program more with our down payment assistance program to help our homeowners and help home ownership take place there so and that's kind of more a lot more with that program it's not so much of an application it's a free market so the other thing we also had to do this this year as well as put some policies around our environmental things such as lead based paint that we address we inspect and mitigate those uh rate on gas and then also the uh noise pollution that we sometimes see in our city as well so um then also we uh last couple things in our appendixes we we changed the amount of stiping that we give for if we have to relocate items or even a home owner during a rehab project so we have a we have a an updated uh stien list for that so it's more lines with what current current uh moving companies charge so we we we did that uh research for that and then lastly is the the the new What's called the new Inspire standard from HUD and this is a new property standard and inspection protocol that we would you will start using um this year so then that's added as well some things like that is like smoke detectors are on a 10year lithium battery as opposed to a 9volt battery from some of our senior citizens that would have to get up on a ladder or on a chair to try to replace that battery takes that takes that burden away from them so it's kind of nice and then the other thing is about combustable appliances making sure they're not in confined spaces so that's pretty much all those things uh take any questions if you have any um just curious um just you talking about that made me think of as far as those fire alarms or fire smoke detectors are concerned us being able to if we have not established a a good relationship with the fire department for them to just automatically come and do that and replace those those uh smoke detectors just curious if if we had and how that works um we get a we get a Federal grant for that so we just it's part of our scope of work and to to align with them would be just something that would be an additional thing for us um we could definitely reach out to Chief Kelly and talk to him more about that that would be a good opportunity okay thank you my second question um I understand the increase as far as some of the the funding uh for different parts of this program um that we're working on depending on the program does that decrease the number of folks that we can serve by increasing the funding for that just curious yeah so typically it it will obviously yes there's only a certain amount of the pot that we have and more that we cut I think that what what we're what we're trying to do as well with one with the contractor changes that we're making we're we're wanting to do multiple contractors on projects instead of just one general contractor using um that hopefully will bring us some savings that we can then do more with but give a better quality product as well so okay thank you and my last question um as we look at the general program requirements I was looking at this a little earlier um is this HUD standard as far as the applicant providing the income data to consecutive months of bank statements and two months of current pay um for 80% Ami yes that's that's their that's a requirement we do an we do a 1040 method that that that to validate off of that so okay thank you so much no problem I have a followup question regarding the yeah uh warranty coverage at the conclusion of the project so we've taken the retainage away as an option for the city to leverage so what what are we going to be able to do when the contractor can't or does not perform on their warranty obligations that first year yeah so if if that does happen we will work with you know typically we work with other agencies and other Partnerships to help us with those things if that's that if that does happen obviously that contractor and we will always always work with our legal team here because they did sign a contract and we will hold them to those those things and obviously those um whatever deficiencies there were that that typically comes through a complaint process to us and we have documentation that verifies that there the warranty work is not being completed then we would have be able to draw a suit at that point from a contractor if we need to if not I mean at the point then we will still be working with agencies as much as we possibly can I'll just continue to express my concern over having no leverage really over the contractor because it's been my experience that with the city unless that dollar value associated with the warranty service hits a threshold that we can't endure we're just going to settle and handle it and so I'm just going to express that concern out there I wonder if there's not another way to navigate that through some kind of a home warranty third party that the contractor could be required to provide just some food for thought and and typically we're talking like $110,000 contracts that would be going out to the different people the max I mean not the max but typically you're talking about a $10,000 contract and at two and a half and the state says we can only charge 2 and a half% and so that that's like $250 I don't know who's going to hold their warranty for $250 I think that was the challenge and so what we would do is like what Todd's describing is we make sure the work gets done whether it's the contractor or not if we need to we will pursue you know a lawsuit with them but also to make sure that um we don't contract with them further so it's like there is a there are ramifications from it and there's ways that we have to make sure that the property owner is cared for but then to hold the um contractor accountable it's just such small amounts that the amount we are holding probably wouldn't have finished the work in the first place okay thank you started on thank you guys appreciate so we can take a motion on the resolution and the item passes uh moving on to item X claims recommended for approval take a motion and the item passes we'll move on now to item seven comments from Council award two yes thank you uh just wanted to acknowledge what a successful Asian Night Market uh we were able to host in W two on Friday and Saturday and I had the honor uh on Saturday evening uh from 6:15 to about 9 9:30 of serving as one of the evening's 3 MC's and uh I got there just in time to be able to be the one to introduce the ever so popular fashion show which was just I don't know it was incredible to be backstage and watch them at such close range just these beautiful um pieces of clothing from all across the Asian continent uh the taste of Lao uh Food Truck Line was endless I mean it was just people just waiting that whole time um hung Viet uh which was where they had all these different you know like the dragon costumes and these sorts lion um this went on for quite some time and it brought folks from Georgia Nebraska Kentucky and Kansas who participated uh on that stage and actually took the lion and these things out in into the crowd and you could just see the kids just their faces just lighting up with this sort of stuff and as I reminded everyone that night I was like we have people coming to our city to celebrate with us because we are the 20th largest city sixth fastest growing and when I said that from that stage the crowd seemed to like be wait what you know we're what and then it's like yeah let's act like it right so let's give these people a loud City you know welcome on the stage and the crowd just went for it so you know we have so many different folk from LA to Vietnam who call The District home and it was just incredible to see so many thousands of people there um and that is all I have to say was just thank you for that opportunity to host that thank you word five I'm probably talking to the three people on YouTube that are still watching but um my real life I have the opportunity to be all over the city all the time we maintain all the city's Transit shelters and benches and stuff and I consider myself quite a foodie so if you're ever lost somewhere in w 8 I can call me I'll tell you where you can find a mom and pop to eat at and what brought this on was councilwoman nice's conversation last week or two weeks ago about the unfortunate closing of the East Side Pizza Parlor um I followed Dave Kathy and Greg Horton and their food blogs and I'm also friends with a whole lot of restaurant tours and there's been 35 restaurants in Oklahoma City that have closed since the first of the year sadly enough and where I'm going with this is Community Support um I don't know if anybody's ever been to gonos down on South Martin Luther King about 17th or 18th but they got the best hamburgers in town and I'm telling you write it down the hot dogs are good if you've had Miss demetra's meatloaf or smothered pork chops at the kitchen you're missing out but we invest these dollars I mean the East Side East Point got a million and three in Tiff and then the East Side Pizza Parlor got 60,000 in arpa funding and still failed because the community wasn't there to support it and it goes across the board for my favorite Grill on the hill it closed down two weeks ago yes Grill on the Hill shut its doors they they paid into the bid District in Capitol Hill and because of lack of community support it closed down so I guess what I'm getting at is next time you and your family load up in the car and decide on Taco Bell don't decide on the mom and pop because they're the ones supporting your kids baseball team and they're the one in your PTA and they're the ones in your neighborhood um so I'll get off that soap box and do some praising um I attended the Asian lunar Festival in chatton a two Saturdays ago and it was a phenomenal event probably 8 n00 people uh and I think it ran coincided with your Festival as well uh also o attended the festival in your ward the law 25 I don't Fiesta yeah it it was a wonderful event as well tons and tons of people in the parades and whatnot so it's good to see our citizens show up but we need to show up a lot of places um and I'll leave it with this I'm recently in the volunteer citizens fire academy which has been a really neat deal but in doing my ride alongs with the fire department I've got to Vis visit quite a few of the fire stations and I was at fire station 16 which is at 66 between Shields and I35 and uh Standing Outside the Fire Station on a warm sunny day with a fireman who had a curly Cube mustache um he told me about the deficiencies along 66 Street so I called councilman Stone and we called Debbie Miller with public works and within two or three days we had the crosswalks repainted in front of the fire station we got OG&E to semic commit to new street lights up and down through there Todd's been working on getting a sidewalk for all those kids that walk to Webster Middle School every day through grass up to their neck and they went above and beyond and went to 66 and Shields and repainted the whole intersection there the whole crosswalk there so you know life safety is a big deal and I got to give kudos to traffic and public works for getting right on that because they were on that within a few days um that's what I have to say thank you more six Bo seven thank you um I want to mention as as we heard about gonos yes they do have the best burgers in town but the hot dogs are spectacular if you haven't tried them with the chili and the cheese and the jalapenos to go on top um and I I just want to reemphasize I think it's very important yes to support but we just had a presentation about water increase so it's hard for folks to support in the way that we want them to um when they can't afford to to make those decisions and I that's why I had emphasized in that last meeting about how our city can help us to ensure that these places uh have what they need and and you know arer funding yes it's it's needed but we we have to work on better ways to support our local businesses and and how they can operate and and work and be um employers of our residents within our city at the same time so I'm I am hoping uh we can continue to look at that what that looks like and to better uh support the ways that our residents can support these particular places as well and with that I I do want to compliment the East End commercial District on Friday we were able to um unveil their banners that they have for the district this is a a very large step for this part of of this community as far as the Banners are concerned and so kudos to eastn um commercial District members our Northeast OKC Renaissance as well as KC Black Chamber uh for their hard working efforts to get us to a place where we can even call this part of our community the East End commercial District so it's a long time coming and I know the efforts to create a commercial District happened long before I became um a person in in this capacity to serve so I'm talking about 90s and and uh beyond for them to look at how this could take place and now is the right time although Co slowed it down a little bit we are here so very grateful for the work that all three of those organizations were able to do to get us here um I wanted to also um send my my thoughts and prayers to the family of of one of our middle our Milwood students who was unfortunately um killed in an an accidental shooting um Tyler Taffy and um I hope those who are listening understand the importance if you are a gun owner to ensure that you have a lock on your guns it's very important for us to prevent unnecessary injuries in or deaths um when we have those in our homes and I know our Police Department is willing to help provide with those gun locks if you need them to make sure our young people can um continue their their the ways that they live um within our city and and we heard someone mention about the fact that someone brought one to a school loaded so that again speaks the importance of of the gun locks and being able to you be utilize uh that system of of protecting ourselves as well as our young people that live or visit homes that may have uh the SS guns um at Langston I just wanted to shout out Langston Langston University homecoming next weekend uh since we won't have council meeting lions please support if you can our only HBCU in Oklahoma and this is a a great time for their support and for the um scholarship uh Gayla that they have within the community too and as we talk about the things that are happening within our City uh I did want to acknowledge what happened and took place this weekend in Bricktown because that was a weekend of very unfortunate events uh within our community and I speak again about the necessity of being able to have those gun locks in the home whether they be for teenagers or younger people um but also as I said in the interviews that I did have the importance of uh we are we have worked through the lighting study we have worked through the ways that we can get that taken care of for L Bricktown now is Time for Action and I know we we are a local government of you know things happen it's a slow trajectory in some aspects of how we get those things done but in my opinion what happened this weekend speaks to the necessity and the prioritization of of the lighting in lower Bricktown and for us to ensure that this happens because clearly this happened outside of curfew time and the kids knew where to go to take care of whatever the the whatever they did and then people getting shot um also with the the stabbing that happened as well so that's too much I think we can all agree that's that's too much for one weekend and um I am grateful that we are that our Bricktown uh division is is working with the Bricktown District to look at these things uh closer but we as a city we have to respond immediately to the lighting uh and the visibility of people feeling safe within this part of our community so uh Mr city manager I know uh we have worked on that but now is the time for us to look at that and start getting that taken care of and I I desperately ask that we do that as soon as possible and I I just wanted to commend uh council person Cooper for his um visitation on flasho I saw you my friend um and I'm proud of you so great job representing for um our city as as well as for for introducing your your new Venture of of the book so I want to see it too thank you thank you award eight you know I recently attended a conference of of Mayors and city council and one of the Hot Topics was water not only the adequacy of the amount of water for a city but also the cost and you look at what's going on here in Oklahoma City with our water utilities department and they've been faced with 300% cost in increases for uh the chemicals necessary to purify and provide us good safe clean drinking water um but I think one thing that that when we talked about water today I hope everybody got this um our water utilities department is doing an outstanding job they are pro they are currently building a 72-inch pipeline that will provide adequate water for our kids and grandkids through 2060 and that's really important but I also want to give them a shout out on October 1st the Oklahoma City Utilities Department of Water the conservation program with a project called squeeze every drop has been honored with the prestigious water sense excellence in education and Outreach award this is a national award we should be very proud of this um I want to thank Chris Browning and his staff um great job congratulations thank you thank you that concludes comments from Council next up will be citizens to be heard first up is going to be Mr Steve hunt Mr Hunt you have three minutes thank you all for having me up here I had hoped that his August Majesty Hol would be here but I'm sure he's off speaking with Apollo capital or some nice group um couple things I'd like to say before I get going I want to give a big shout out to my friends and the people's Council for Justice Reform Sharice Baker Connie Johnson Sean Cummings Mark faul Nanette Cummings Sarah Melissa gray Justin sprous tomorrow TurnKey will be exiting the deadliest jail in America from the pressure that our group has put on them over the past several years um I think all you know that Oklahoma County has become the deadliest jail in America and a lot of that has to do with TurnKey medical uh mismanagement of the facility uh they've been scraping a large amount of money off the top uh Eckles was making like $700,000 of the you know the 7 2 million that goes to that jail and them leaving is a big part of the House of Cards that's going to start falling um tomorrow they exit um also want to give a shout out to my friend Russell pace for his 14 years on the maps board uh Russell told me that he wanted to still be on wanted to leave in late October but when he called mayor Hol mayor Hol said your uh resignation is effective immediately and that just shows uh the state of people that dissent in our uh City or our community as you like to say um what I wanted to say to Mayor Hol is that uh on July 2nd he appeared at the moral Bombing Memorial on a panel discussing the importance of engaging with others and it was very offensive to me to exploit the suffering of the families and the martyrdom of the 168 uh Steven Evans who put the event together told me that he had alerted the authorities that I was going to be there luckily I was there with Shan Cummings and uh David Glover um but to think that someone like myself who was there when the bombing occurred who was there in Vegas when the shooting occurred uh also experienced the murder of my Rave promoter and in Dallas that I could be equated with those sorts of folks that do those things um I was here the other day to bring a flyer of the event that I'm a part of Gretchen morgenson of NBC News is going to be here next week speaking at Full Circle books on the predatory private Equity firms that have taken over senior living facilities uh 30 seconds remaining city manager Freeman your uncle lives at the Ellison at Statesman which is where a lot of the souls that were kicked out of Fountains at Canterbury went which was another predatory entity well Tower bought that with the express intent of building a rental home neighborhood which they did uh rep nice I know we conversed about uh them being kicked out I got the Freedom of Information request that you were alerted I don't know if you ever said anything but people certainly died as a result of that and a lot of those folks are at Ellison at Statesman now which has been purchased by Apollo Capital these uh people are supported by the decaying systems of power in our city that James wants to alleviate the school shooting problems um I think turn key is a result of uh Clay Bennett who you've received three max donations from thank you Mr if I could just 10 more seconds I think thank you okay well we're Beyond time now thank you okay next up will be um is that mayor W wer am I saying W Mark I'm sorry good afternoon everybody my name is Mark woler I live at 8101 Northwest 129th Place um I'm here today because I grew up in two cities Oklahoma City and U Houston Texas uh I spent Summers up here my grandparents lived up here and uh uh what I went back for my uh High School reunion in October to Houston and Houston has become uh an unlivable Mega expansive um hell hole uh and I don't want to see Oklahoma City go down the same path that Houston has has done and many other cities in Texas as well I was at a speech by the lieutenant governor recently and he said we have a current major inflow of people from Texas coming coming into Oklahoma and it used to be the reverse though the reason they're coming here is because Texas has the mun many of the major cities are just like Houston their property taxes uh have just gone through the roof the inflation has increased the value of homes to the point where if you even own your business uh the property on which your business sits or your house sits you're paying an enormous amount of of property tax to the point where it's become a land lease and you're basically leasing your property from the county or the school district or whoever your taxing authorities are and I spent Summers here in Oklahoma City and I don't and I love the place bottom line is I don't want to see it turn into the same unlivable massively expansive uncomfortable uh place that Houston San Antonio Austin what turned into uh I've seen residential uh areas in Oklahoma City where they Tear Down single family homes and they're putting up great big ugly buildings that have a lot more tax value to the taxing authorities than the original structures I've seen homes torn down in reg residential uh neighborhoods two or three homes are put up on the same lot and sold for very very high prices what this does and I will shut up in just a second is it Mr W I'm sorry we're at time I'm well it increases the tax valuation of the homes around it and increases the expense of living in that neighborhood next up is Victoria pelum this has been an interesting morning I've never been to a city council meeting I have a issue our issue is I've tried all the proper channels that we know of so I'm coming here to find out what do we do next we had a new business move into the neighborhood 2 weeks ago now I don't get to go to sleep till 2 3 4 in the morning we've called you know Action Center the police department what are the next steps for citizens to do what should we do you know we're like if a normal person reads the noise ordinances it looks like there should be shut down or the volume turned down something be done but to weeks and nothing's been done so that's why I'm coming to you guys to find out what two normal citizens do what's the next let me get some of our staff to just visit with you afterwards just so we get the exact information make sure we've got if you filed with action center we'll probably have the information but we can just confirm that and see what the options are and make sure we're explaining to you what the issues would be or what our challenges would be to be able to enforce that okay I appreciate that okay thank you thank you for coming and and with that uh that's our final so we are adjourned thank you