Tulsa City Council Public Works Committee
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Hey. Hey. Hey. she >> we're live. Okay, I will call the meeting to order at the 2:30 public works. Um, number two, resolution authorizing payment of $20,515.92. Patrick Deo from the scing fund as payment of a judgment. >> Welcome. >> Good afternoon. >> Good afternoon. Chad Becker from Treasury here to provide council with assurance that there is sufficient cash uh to pay this judgment ahead of the levy placement on the property tax rules. Um as always the judgment has been approved by the court and the mayor already and with council's approval finance will issue payment to [snorts] the claimant forward all the necessary paperwork to the county to levy repayment to the syncing fund. um in this case over a three-year period and we have com here from city legal. >> Yes. >> Thank you. Uh comra tacmail city legal. So this was related to a uh sewer overflow that occurred on June 28th of 2025 at Mr. Deo's residence. Um, our investigation found that there were two defects in the main line that were on a uh medium priority repair list uh that the city had notice of obviously of the of the defects, but there was a wet weather event that contributed to the lump overcharging that helped contribute to the overflow. And so because we had notice of the defect, um we thought that you know we should pay the claim. Uh but since then those those two defects have been uh resolved >> resolved. >> Well, not resolved, but they've been moved to like a high priority. So they've been >> So they're not >> not as of yet. >> Oh, >> it could still overflow. the line was was flowing uh proper properly when as they were cleaning it and it had been checked over the years. >> Um now it was the [snorts] wet weather event that really contributed to the to the one overflowing and back but >> so we're just awaiting maybe if we have another large event another big weather storm. >> They tell me it's on the it's on a high priority list. So it just >> Do we know when that is? They have not told me a specific date. >> Wow. Any other questions on that? >> We're going to get sug Yeah. >> I guess that's a question for the water department on the >> Okay. All right. >> I called it to order. >> Oh, yeah. Thank you. Sorry. That was with Sarah. So I looked up and I was like, I think we're supposed to be >> number three. >> Thank you. >> Item number three, resolution. >> Wait, can we get an amount of the sig? >> I don't know. >> I say 59. >> 53. >> 53. >> Say 51. >> We've been making a lot of lately. >> We're about to do one. Do we have We don't have enough money. >> Yes, we do. >> Yeah. your property taxes will be going up. >> Yeah. >> Item number three is a resolution authorizing payment of $26,250,000 to William Henry James Jamerson plaintiff in Small and Reitman PLLC attorneys at law from the scing fund as a payment of a judgment and attorney fee award in case number 25 CV179. Um, this does carry the emergency clause and it is on for tonight >> and most of my usual deal will hold with this with the exception of this case or this levy to syncing fund. Uh, the repayment will be levied over a 10-year period rather than a three-year period. um so as to mitigate some of the impact to property tax rates, but we will be paying lump sum up front and it is purchased by the investment pool. So from an accounting standpoint, it will be it will come out of the syncing fund and the syncing fund will be replenished because we're paying out pool cash. So um so we will this will not impede our ability to meet our other debt obligations that are paid from the syncing fund as well. Okay. Any discussion on this? I have a question for Jack. Is there something in policy or law that's like a minimum threshold in the syncing fund >> that needs to be maintained as a city? >> No, I mean the finance department and treasury makes annual reports to the excise board on >> but I mean do is or Chad is it like 50 million the like we have to do a thing? Uh no there's not. We generally there's there's always fund balance at the end of the year and because of the way >> is there >> there there is >> because you know without this uh you know we would we would be going into when I say end of the year I mean end of the calendar year because of the way that we get our large influx into the scing fund in January which is when >> so we'll we'll be getting another 53 54 million infusion into the syncing fund >> on the on the property tax payment calendar and then another pretty sizable in influx in April when those that pay their property tax in half increments. So, but we generally carry, you know, anywhere from a 20 to $30 million fund balance over >> in December. >> Yes. >> Okay. >> Okay. And um obviously this is his take a historic outlay um from a policy standpoint because we always ask this question like have policy changes been enacted so that what has caused this to transpire is we're not at risk of it moving forward necessarily. >> We can't ask that. >> I can't ask that. >> I ask it every time we do a >> no we don't get an answer. You can ask and I can say generally yes. I mean there are a lot of practices in policy >> that have changed over the last 30 years but a deeper discussion with that would require the police department. >> Okay, we should put that on there. >> Well, I know today we're just confirming that there's enough dollars in the account to authorize the [clears throat] transfer. >> Thank you. >> I did want to just since we're on the agenda item, thank our colleagues who participated in the settlement conference. It's a long day or more and tense. So, thank you for your service in that capacity. >> Those are things that sometimes don't happen on a Wednesday. So, you know, >> other duties as assigned item. Thank you, Chad. Number four is an ordinance closing a certain portion of public way located at 1520 North Hartford Avenue requested by Daily Ber and Dietrich on behalf of the Tulsa Economic Development Corporation. situated between Pine Street to Greenwood Avenue between lot four, block four, lot seven, block five, and Dinar edition with utility scheduled to remain and an easement retained over the rightway. The requested closing is for future development in district 1. There's a public hearing tonight and it'll go for action on the 17th. Hello, Mr. Zachary. >> Good afternoon, councilors. Um if you've been if you are familiar but with Motton Health years ago Greenwood was realigned where it lines up with the road on the opposite side of street and then the old Greenwood was kind of tagged as well that was Hartford I guess because that's the next alphabetical letter. So um originally by Platt this was the old Greenwood Avenue where it came out on. So, as part of this, the city of Tulsa uh has been working with Jim and TDC um to make this road, they didn't want it to where if they need to in the future if they need to close it off, it's not a public way and they couldn't because this goes right into their new parking lot as well as their old parking lot and facility. They haven't talked about gating it, but for them to have the control of it that they would like, we don't really need it on there. We are retaining easement uh over the entire roadway. There's a communications line in there. There's a water line in there that they've utilized. Um and it's just clean. It's going to make them to have more control over that in case they need to do something in the future. So, we went through everybody and we got uh no objections and because the road was open, you're having a public hearing and hopefully that will go smoothly. We haven't heard anything from anybody and everybody has offered no objection to this. So, we would we'd like to get this one off our street maintenance requirements. Um they're uh they're actually reworking some of that street um with the development and we're doing a part just out there in the what's in the remaining part of the public right away just to kind of assist them in redevelopment efforts. >> Councelor, have you had any input or things that we need to discuss about? No, there's some confusion in the community but >> Okay. Is everyone at this table aware of what Jim is with TEDC? Okay. So, we may have some people on for tonight, but >> Okay. Well, there's >> there was some people that thought that I was closing Greenwood, >> Deep Greenwood. >> Well, that's that was the problem was by the plat of the old Dunar. It was old Greenwood. >> It was. Can you pull that up? Can you roll that up? >> But the street is dead. It's like a driveway, >> right? It doesn't even go into pine anymore >> anymore. >> Right. And it it really did help when that occurred cuz it lined it up. >> That's just a distrust of government. >> But it doesn't say Greenwood on there. Now it's Hartford, right? >> It is. Right. It's Hartford now, but in >> the plat. >> Yeah. In the original Plaid, it was. And you >> It's a dead end street. You can't even get to it unless you There it is. Right there. >> Street. It's a driveway. >> Yeah. >> So, you see the new Right. That's the old road and it dead ends right there. There's grass, curb, sidewalk all there along Pine, but Greenwood sweeps out. It's nice and wide. Buses can make the turn and all that kind of stuff. So, we're just closing that right there. That's right up next to their building. And I think it's going to be an amenity for them and it's going to work out well for us as well. >> Are you or someone from your team going to be there tonight for the public hearing or Okay, >> we really haven't had Tulsa Housing up above. I mean, everybody's been on board with this. >> Social media got a little I mean, someone found it, started sharing it on Facebook, and so I'm not talking about, >> all right, >> property owners. I'm talking about citizens, okay? People in the neighborhood that live >> uh and there was some confusion on that, and I I got the documentation, the backup materials, took a picture, and sent it to one lady that that mentioned it to me, and she was like, "Oh, okay, never mind." But she was planning to come. >> Okay. >> And so there may be others. >> Okay. Okay. >> So, it would be nice if someone from your department was there just to >> soon as she saw the picture, she was like "Oh okay. >> 5:00 soon." So, >> it's item number three. So, hopefully you'll be >> we will be there fast. >> You can have this same diagram. I think once they see it, >> oh, that green >> and that's not a good picture. Go to the last two pictures >> in the in the document. Very last two pictures. >> There you go. >> See, it's kind of obvious there. >> I don't know if there's Is there Keep on going. >> There's another picture. >> It shows up the other. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. I wish that there was one that showed in Pine. You can see that there's a curb and there's no way to even get to that. >> Yeah. See, Greenwood is on the other side of the shelter. >> Right. >> Yeah. Right. >> So, anyhow, we'll be there to answer any questions. Thank you. >> All right. Thank you. >> I bet it's like they're closing down E71st place. What? [laughter] >> Better get to our home. >> Trust us. >> Yeah. I don't trust you. Um, item number five, resolution adopting the November 2024 Kulie Creek master drainage plan and changes to the city of Tulsa regulatory flood plane map atlas as the official city of Tulsa flood plane maps for those parts of Tulsa County lying within the Tulsa city of Tulsa city limits which maps supersede the previous Tulsa County and incorporated area flood plane maps for the city of Tulsa flood plane map atlas panels 31 39 and 40 providing that copies of said maps be kept and filed in the office of the city clerk making said maps available to the public at a reasonable charge and setting an effective date. Should I read number six with that as well? >> Um they're actually um three separate items that >> six and seven. >> Yeah, >> we'll take one at a time. >> So item number five, I'm Joan Gosik. I'm utility planning manager for the water and sewer department. Um city of Tulsa has completed a ma a new master drainage plan for Kulie Creek. Um it is dated the it was completed in November 2024. The public meeting for the master drainage plan was held in June 2025. Um we met with about 25 citizens regarding the master drainage plan. The action really um adopts. So as we as we map out the the FEMA regulatory flood plane is based on existing conditions and the Tulsa regulatory flood plane is based on future conditions. There are some modifications both additions and subtractions to the Tulsa regulatory flood plane that are shown on the attached maps. So the action is adopting the changes to the Tulsa regulatory flood plane. [clears throat] Um the master drainage plan also includes a list of problem areas and potential solutions. They will be added to the storm water CIP project inventory. They are currently all unfunded and part of about a two and a half billion dollar backlog of storm water projects um that are required in the city of Tulsa if we were to remove all flood hazards um from a 100red-year storm both now and in the future. But it's important that we adopt the maps because the maps protect us for educate um the citizens regarding future development and protect us from future losses. So really what we're looking at now is um the action to adopt the changes to the maps. >> Where's Tulie Creek? I'm sorry. >> Creek is in East Tulsa. >> Northeast Tulsa. >> North is kind of northeast Tulsa. It's um east of 169 and just to the south of 244. Um part of district 3 and district 6. Um, a large part of the area right now is relatively um either moderately developed or undeveloped. A lot of the wershed is still undeveloped. Um, it's part of some of the areas in East Tulsa that maybe are we're looking at for future development. Um, there are some areas of street flooding on Fourth Place and 15th where Kulie Creek crosses those streets. They are actually in the FEMA special flood hazard area. Um, you know, so some of the problem areas address that street flooding. Um, but it does require a series of detention ponds to reduce the street flooding. And the total cost, I want to say is about $70 million to address the problem areas in the Kley Creek U master drainage plan area. Um, those, as I said, we'll add it to the inventory. We use a risk-based approach to evaluate storm water projects and a lot of some of those things are sometimes addressed as part of future development is you know storm water will have to be taken into account as future development occurs. >> Questions comments? >> No, I can really appreciate that. I think I've had some constituents that would be really glad to hear about that especially [clears throat] in the corridor um of 11th Street and 145thish area. Yeah, we did have good participation. Had some some people at the public meeting that were um pretty vocal and um pretty interested. So, we appreciate we appreciate the participation and the interest and um >> and hopefully as we you know I know we don't have any short-term projects funded short term um but hopefully we'll be able to as we evaluate storm water the storm water just has a huge backlog of potential projects. um you know so >> it's it's hard to fund storm water projects if there aren't grants available. >> Well, I know that with recent uh development that is on board for that area, it's going to be a bonus. So, I appreciate that. [clears throat] Thank you, >> Councelor Benol. >> So, Joan, just mine's a really simple question. Were folks that were added in or taken out of the flood plane, were they notified? >> All of the folks in the in the drainage in the master drain in the drainage area were notified of the master drainage plan and um invited to the public meeting. I don't know that we specifically notify um so they were all notified of the of the changes to the um we posted all of the information online but I don't know that we specifically send out letters on any of our master drainage plans to properties that are either addit or removed um to >> well >> might be beneficial. The reason why I asked that question is because with the Tupelo Creek rehabilitation that was done recently, I had a property owner who said they were now added into the flood plane. So that's why I curiously ask that question. When people are added into that, that I would assume affect their the necessity of carrying flood insurance. >> It can. >> So that's why I'm asking that question. if you've been added into the flood plane, right? Um or you've been removed, that may determine what your premiums might be. >> So, that's why I'm asking that question. >> It's a very good question. I think it's something I I need to take back. It would be it would be good for us to um for the residents >> because I got a resident who's now irritated because after we did the Tupelo Creek rehabilitation, now they're supposedly added in >> and now they're having to pay an increased premium on their um home owners insurance for flood and so >> I will have my um GIS team identify those addresses and we will put together a letter and the maps and >> and even if we can share that >> and and share that um and then we'll also the revised information we'll look and see if we can't get that posted on the website so that >> really wasn't as easy as I said it was going to be >> well even if they're taken out of the flood plane if they do have the insurance and they keep paying it. You know what? Maybe they need to look at, you know, changing their policy to save some money, >> right? >> Well, or I mean, is that's certainly an option. Um, you know, given where their their proximity to the flood plane, um, their insurance rates may just go down the fact that they've been removed. >> But you have designations of risk within those flood planes, right? Like it's an A, B, C, or D, if I remember correctly. Yeah, it's AE and X. >> Yeah, I can never remember what letters are used, but >> and then there's regulatory versus FEMA. Um, these are changes to the Tulsa regulatory flood plane. Um, but yeah, that it can impact people on when they're remodeling or go to get a permit of being in the Tulsa regulatory flood plane. Um, most homeowners would get notified on our annual notification, so if they get at it. But I think it I think that's a good suggestion that the only reason if people are potentially looking at >> moving and selling that property, I feel like that's something you would need to disclose. >> Yes, I I agree with you. Um, I will we will facilitate that occurring. >> Do I have Anthony up, but I wanted to ask the question on this topic. Um, do we have a place on our website where people could go and just when these updates are like just a PDF or something like these are the latest updates? >> I believe we do, but I will double check that. I am working towards making sure that that you know for like every public meeting etc that we have those things posted to so that anything that is very easily accessible. Well, and that way for our purposes, your next town hall, your next town hall, you can kind of do a little Anthony that uh Dutton. >> Yeah, just kind of piggybacking on councelor Dutton because I'm I'm on the I'm trying to just through Google search master drainage plan Tulsa. I'm having I'm having some trouble with it because I have a constituent 81st in Lwood who's telling me, "Oh, because of the work that you guys did, I'm out of the flood plane now. Can you give me a letter so that I'm >> So we do fl our our storm water design staff does flood plane determinations. Um all a constituent has to do is call the 311 and ask for a flood plane determination and they will get essentially equivalent of that letter that will tell them what their elevation is, whether they're in or out etc. So that is the easiest way for anyone in the city to >> you know to get an official determination of for their property. >> Okay. Now but this there are some people if I'm understanding what's happening right now there are some folks who are in a flood plane but when we approve this and those maps are updated they may be out. >> Right. So when you look at the maps that were attached is there's green areas on the map and there's orange areas. The orange areas represent increases. So, um, in say Kulie Creek zone one, you could see that there's some orange areas and there are some commercial buildings that are being added into the flood plane, but there's also a green area and there's some buildings you could see under that that are going to be removed from the flood plane. So, as councelor Bangler asks, if I'm going to notify them is we can go and we can get addresses for all of these for people that are in these changed areas and develop a letter and provide the map that will show them and the links to the online information, etc. >> Let them mitigate their own risk. >> Well, it it it's just another layer of making sure that they're aware >> insurance. Funny how you zoom right in. Yeah, >> that's what I meant. >> Yeah. And flood insurance is available to, you know, so >> some people will and some won't. >> That's true. >> Yeah, Jackie is available. >> Oh, wait. Hold on. She's still talking. >> Sorry. That's okay. >> You didn't get the color copy that you have. >> We don't have color >> because we're budgeting on ink, apparently. >> Which is good. >> Expensive. >> Keep one just for >> So, what I wanted to ask is um the digital copies are in color. >> Yeah, that's good. And I've been told they have a very large set of paper this size to work through. >> Yes, we notice public works always has the big paper. >> Well, if I give you the little paper, you really can't see it. >> So, what I wanted to ask um had to do with um being able to access information on site uh online as councelor Dr. Wright had mentioned. Um, is that can that be broken down by zip code as well and possible neighborhoods? I mean, I think that I wonder if that would accommodate people being able to look online themselves. >> Well, one addresses >> one of the We do have an an interactive storm water viewer. >> Okay. >> And it allows people to put their address into that map >> and then it will zoom into their area. >> Okay. and it'll tell them uh the closest uh creek or reservoir. >> Okay, that's good to know. I didn't even know that myself, so thank you. >> Anything else on item five? Okay. Item six is a resolution adopting revisions to the September 12, 2024 city of Tulsa regulatory floodplane maps as the official maps of the regulatory flood planes of the city of Tulsa, Oklahoma, amending portions of previous city of Tulsa regulatory flood plane map panel 58, providing that copies of said maps be kept be filed and kept in the office of the city clerk and making said maps available to the public at a reasonable charge. >> Seven's very similar to eight if you want to. >> Okay. Item number seven is a resolution adopting revisions to September 12, 2024 as we uh said in number six, but this would be for the flood plane map panel 62 and I'm trying to so both of these are a letter of map revision is LOMAR is a letter of map revision that is a FEMA special flood hazard map action. Um so these are revisions to the FEMA maps. They have been through public notice etc by FEMA. Um city of Tulsa as part of our national flood insurance program is required when FEMA revises their special flood hazard map to adopt those map revisions. So both of these actions are adopting the map revisions that were made by FEMA for these areas. Um, one of them is I believe it's item six. I'm a little confused on how my items lined up as to which one's which. I'm trying to find my map panel on my resolution. >> So, six is 58. >> Okay, six is okay. I we have decoded it. So six is Hickey Creek. So it [snorts] is a change approximately 1850 ft downstream from New Orleans Street um to approximately 150 ft downstream of the confluence with the east branch of Peggy Creek. It is res it has resulted from a a roadway project um on I believe it's 91st East Avenue. the widening >> the widening >> between Memorial and Mingo in my district. >> And then the other one is um >> fry ditch number two >> project over there. Um it is a revision um of the Arkansas Arkansas River from the confluence of fry ditch number two to approximately um 1150 550 ft upstream of the confluence of fry ditch number two. So this one this one affects an area trying to find my my cross streets. May I make a request of staff when we get these things in the future? Could we put the district um >> that would be helpful >> the districts affected in the agenda item? That will also help the public know if they should pay attention. >> So do you want that put on the you need it in the agenda item or the resolution because it's on the RFA. >> Well, so like on because most of >> the people who are going to pay attention might be getting a screenshot of the >> okay >> agenda item. So I'm just going back on item five. You're like this primarily affects districts three and six. That's not reflected here. So you're click go through scroll find the thing. >> I can absolutely >> right. As soon as you say east 91st you're we know right. So item six is all you >> Item six is Yeah. East 91st. Well, it goes into Broken Arrow. >> Broken Arrow. >> Item seven is District 8, so it's South Tulsa. >> Yeah, but I think it would just give a marker in the big agenda. >> I I can absolutely make sure I do that. >> Yeah, that would be great. >> That's helpful. Thank you. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. On the it says >> if you just put it right here on the If you just put it here, then we can put it on the we'll put it on the agenda. I'm just saying like for for people who do engage with our agenda, they sometimes don't click through >> on the supporting documents or can't or you know don't have a computer that can pull those big documents up. So >> any questions on um six or seven what's happening here? Okay. Well, thank you so much. Um there's nothing further. We are Awaken.