LAND USE COMMITTEE. WILL THE COMMITTEE CLERK PLEASE CALL THE ROLL ? >> VICE CHAIR STRAUSS? >> PRESENT. >> COUNCILMEMBER MERCEDES RINCK? COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA? >> PRESENT. >> CHAIR SOLOMON? >> HERE. >> THERE ARE THREE MEMBERS PRESENT. >> ALL RIGHT. WITH THAT -- ALSO, I WANTED TO NOTE THAT COUNCILMEMBER MOORE IS EXCUSED FROM TODAY'S MEETING . IF THERE IS NO OBJECTION, THE AGENDA WILL BE ADOPTED. HEARING NONE, THE AGENDA IS ADOPTED. THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH FOR COMING OUT THIS AFTERNOON TO DISCUSS LAND USE. AS ALWAYS, I WANT TO THANK CENTRAL STAFF, OUR CITY CLERK, MY STAFF AND THANK YOU FOR TAKING TIME OUT OF YOUR DAY TO COME HERE TODAY. >> ON THE AGENDA TODAY, WE DO HAVE TWO ITEMS WE HAVE SOME APPOINTMENTS THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE MAKING AND THEN WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE OUR DISCUSSION ON CRIME PREVENTION THROUGH ENVIRONMENTAL DESIGN AND THE ATTEMPT TO GET THAT CODIFIED WITHIN THE CITY OF SEATTLE. BUT, WE WILL BEGIN WITH THE HYBRID PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD. SO, PUBLIC COMMENT SHOULD RELATE TO ITEMS ON TODAY'S AGENDA AND ITEMS WITHIN THE PURVIEW OF THIS COMMITTEE. PLEASE. >> CLERK, HOW MANY SPEAKERS WE HAVE SIGNED UP TODAY? >> WE HAVE TWO IN PERSON SPEAKERS SIGNED UP AND CURRENTLY ONE REMOTE SPEAKER. >> VERY GOOD. EACH SPEAKER WILL HAVE TWO MINUTES. CLERK, PLEASE READ THE INSTRUCTIONS. >> WE MODERATE IN THE FOLLOWING MANNER. THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD IS UP TO 20 MINUTES. SPEAKERS WILL BE CALLED IN WHICC COMMENT PERIOD HAS ENDED. SPEAKERS WILL HEAR A TIME WHEN 10 SECONDS ARE LEFT ON THEIR TIME. SPEAKERS MICROPHONES WILL BE MUTED IF YOU DO NOT AND COMMENTING ON THE ALLOTTED TIME. THIS WILL ALLOW US TO CALL IN THE NEXT SPEAKER. PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD IS NOT OPEN. WE CAN NOW INTRODUCE THE FIRST SPEAKER ON THE LIST. TWO MINUTES. >> ONE SECOND. ONE SECOND. LET US GET THE CLOCK SET FOR YOU. >> I LIVE HERE FOR 40 YEARS. I SPEAK IN COUNCIL CHAMBER 5000 TIMES. I HAVE 6000 DAY OF TRESPASS AND YOU PERSECUTE ME FIVE TIMES. THAT IS EXACTLY WHY I AM TALKING RIGHT NOW ABOUT ENVIRONMENT. MY PROPOSITION RIGHT NOW IS HERE, YOU KNOW WHAT THIS MEANS? 100 PERCENTAGE BS, 50 PAGES WHEN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT HOW WE CAN STOP CRIME. I HAVE A SIMPLE PROPOSITION. I PROPOSE YOU GIVE TESLA. TESLA IS GOOD FOR THE ENVIRONMENT. TO EVERY POTENTIAL CRIMINAL. GIVE ME A TESLA. MAYBE YOU NOT PROSECUTE ME NUMBER SIX. YOU ARE BUNCH OF -- I TALKING ABOUT THIS ROOM EMPTY. ICON LAST WEEK AND NOBODY CARE. EXACTLY HAPPEN RIGHT NOW. WHY? BECAUSE FOR FIVE YEAR WE HAVE COME FROM NUMBER ONE TO NUMBER 10. WE HAVE FALLEN DOWN. SYSTEM COLLAPSE. IT CANNOT BE FOREVER. WE CLEANSE THIS DIRTY CHAMBER TOTALLY. FULL INTENT, DOWN 100 PERCENTAGE COLLAPSE OF ALL -- VIVA TRUMP, VIVA NEW AMERICA. GIVE ME. GIVE ME TESLA. I WILL BE GOOD BOY. >> MOVING ONTO THE NEXT SPEAKER, STEVE. >> BEFORE YOU DO BEGIN YOUR REMARKS, I DID WANT TO REFLECT FOR THE RECORD THAT COUNCILMEMBER RINCK HAS JOINED US. >> ONE OF THE THINGS ON YOUR AGENDA TODAY IS TO APPOINT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND I USED TO BE A MUCH BIGGER JOB THAN IT IS RIGHT NOW. IN YOUR AND EVALUATING OF CITIZENS AND KEEPING US OUT OF THE PROCESS BECAUSE, LORD KNOWS, WE WOULD ONLY MUCK IT UP AND COST DEVELOPERS MONEY, WHICH WE ALL KNOW IS A MORTAL SIN IN SEATTLE. I WOULD LIKE YOU TO REMEMBER THAT THAT WAS PART OF THE DEAL THAT BROUGHT URBAN VILLAGES INTO SEATTLE. WHAT WE HAD WAS A LOOK AT EACH DEVELOPMENT AND TO SEE HOW IT FIT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. NOW, WE DON'T CARE HOW IT IT'S IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. WE ARE GOING TO PUT IT IN AND MAYBE THAT AFFECTS THE LIVABILITY IN THE CITY OF SEATTLE. NOW, I DON'T MAKE OVER 100,000 A YEAR SO YOU WOULD BE JUST AS HAPPY TO SEE ME GONE ANYWAY BUT I DON'T INTEND TO LEAVE AS OF YET. I KNOW MANY WHO HAVE BUT I THINK WE OUGHT TO BE LOOKING AT BUILDING THE SEATTLE THAT WE WANT TO LIVE IN AND I DON'T THINK THAT WE SHOULD BE A SLAVE TO THE AGENDA OF THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY.DECIDED THAT TREES WOULD HAVE TO GO -- WE USED TO HAVE DIVERSITY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. NOW WE HAVE THESE BOXES THAT YOU ARE PUTTING DOWN THAT DON'T REQUIRE VERY MUCH ENGINEERING BECAUSE IT IS ALL PRETTY MUCH THE SAME THING. IT HAS BEEN ENGINEERED. TREES ARE NOT IMPORTANT. NOW, ON THE NORTH END, WE HAVE HAD A NUMBER OF TREES MUCH MORE THAN THE SOUTH END BUT YOU ARE EQUALIZING BECAUSE YOU ARE DESTROYING THE TREES THAT ARE IN THE CITY OF SEATTLE AND THAT IS ONE OF THE PROBLEMS I SEE OF NOT CARING ABOUT WHAT PEOPLE THINK IN THE CITY. PEOPLE DIDN'T USED TO WANT TO BE ON THE LAND USE COMMITTEE AND THERE WAS A GOOD REASON. >> THANK YOU. >> MOVING ON TO OUR TWO VIRTUAL SPEAKERS. WE WILL BE STARTING WITH ERIN BROWN. >> WHEN YOU ARE READY, HIT *6 . >> MY NAME IS AARON ANNE BROWN AND I AM RESIDENT OF ANCHOR PART 1155 DEXTER AVENUE NORTH AND I'M HERE TO URGE THIS COMMITTEE TO INTERVENE DIRECTLY WITH SEATTLE DEPARTMENT OF CODES AND INSPECTIONS AND HOLD THE PERMITTING PROCESS RELATED TO BELLWETHERS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT OF MASTERY'S PERMIT 301 680 WHICH WOULD REMOVE THE REQUIREMENT TO PROVIDE TENANT PARKING. THIS REQUIREMENT IS NOT ARBITRARY. IT WAS A CONDITION OF THE 2016 CONTRACT REASON THAT ALLOWED THE PROJECT TO BE BUILT. UNDER THE REZONE AGREEMENT, BELLWETHER IS OBLIGATED TO PROVIDE 26 TENANT PARKING STALLS, TWO ADA ACCESSIBLE PLACES, ONE CAR SPOT AND THESE WERE CONDITIONS AGREED TO IN EXCHANGE FOR ZONING AND HER SMC 23.34.004 . THOSE OBLIGATIONS ARE TO BE MAINTAINED IN PERPETUITY. INSTEAD, BELLWETHER HAS ACTED IN WILLFUL VIOLATION OF THESE TERMS IN DECEMBER 2024. MY PARKING WAS STRIPPED WITHOUT NOTICE OF JUSTIFICATION. BELLWETHER THEN CREATED A WAITLIST, A MASSIVE REALLOCATION TENANT CALLS PLACING THE IS NUMBER ONE ON THE LIST BUT REFUSED TO OFFER ME A SPACE DESPITE REPEATED -- REPEATED REQUEST AND VISIBLE BILLABILITY. MANY COMPLAINTS WERE IGNORED AND IT WAS NOT UNTIL APRIL 30 25 THAT THEY WERE FINALLY ISSUED A NOTICE TO COMPLY WITH PARKING OBLIGATIONS. LESS THAN TWO WEEKS LATER, BELLWETHER FILED A REQUEST TO AMEND THEIR NU P TO ELIMINATE THE REQUIREMENT ALTOGETHER, RETROACTIVELY EXCUSING THEIR NONCOMPLIANCE. THIS IS AN EGREGIOUS ABUSE OF THE PERMITTING PROCESS AND AN ATTEMPT TO SUMMERS SEATTLE LAND USE CODE AND DISENFRANCHISED TENANTS, LOW INCOME TENANTS WHO DEPEND ON THAT PARKING ACCESS FOR BASIC MOBILITY AND SAFETY. I ALSO SUBMITTED A REASONABLE ACCOMMODATION WHICH WAS IGNORED AND ADDING INSULT TO INJURY, BELLWETHER NEVER INFORMED TENANTS OF THEIR ATTEMPT TO AMEND EVEN THOUGH IT DIRECTLY IMPACTS OUR ACCESSIBILITY, SAFETY AND RIGHTS. THE LACK OF TRANSPARENCY -- IT IS NOT A GOOD FAITH REQUEST. IT IS AFTER THE PRACTICE. I AM ASKING THIS COMMITTEE TO FORMALLY REQUEST STANDARDS AND DENY THE APPLICATION ON THE GROUNDS OF AN ACTIVE VIOLATION OF TENANT HARM. >> THANK YOU. OUR FINAL SPEAKER FOR TODAY WILL BE DAVID HAYNES. >> DAVID HAYNES. THE PRESENTATION ABOUT ENVIRONMENTAL DESIGN IS PROOF THAT WE NEED TO TEAR DOWN PIONEER SQUARE IN CHINATOWN AND REBUILD A 21ST-CENTURY FIRST WORLD QUALITY ADVANCED INTERPRETATION PEDESTRIAN CENTRIC RESIDENT FRIENDLY NEIGHBORHOOD. NOT ON THE SIDE OF THE DRIVE-BY ROADWAYS AND PREDATORY CONVENIENT NEIGHBORHOODS FOR EVIL CRIMINALS TO HIDE WITHIN THE SLUMS THAT CONDUCT THEIR UNCIVIL WAR ON COMMUNITY WITH IMPUNITY WHILE RELYING ON CRIMINAL NIGHTCLUBS , OVER SERVING BARTENDERS GIVEN A PASS BECAUSE THEY GENERATE TAX DOLLARS, SHORTCHANGING COMMUNITY, LEAVING EVERYBODY VULNERABLE, PROPPING UP SLUM REAL ESTATE AS RESIDENTS ARE IN DANGER AS CITY COUNCIL WANTS TO FOCUS MORE ON ENVIRONMENTAL DESIGN AND SIDEWALKS AS THEIR AGENDA ON PUBLIC SAFETY WHILE REALLY NOT ADDRESSING THE ROOT PROBLEMS OF CRIME, THE ACTUAL CRIMINALS. INNOCENCE HAS NO PRIVACY. IF YOU DIDN'T HAVE SO MANY LANDLORDS ON THE CITY COUNCIL SABOTAGING THE CONFERENCE A PLAN AND ALLOWING FOR A LAND ABUSE THAT FORCES EVERYBODY INTO THE SAME RUNDOWN REAL ESTATE ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD THAT CREATES A NEED FOR ALL OF THIS TAX WORK FIXED PERCEPTION OF SAFETY, WE CAN HAVE A 21st CENTURY FIRST WORLD QUALITY REDEVELOPMENT OF HOMES AND COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS THAT PROVIDE ROBUST FLOOR PLANS FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD. INSTEAD, WE HAVE ALL OF THIS MODERN THIRD WORLD RUNDOWN RENTALS AND DOUBLE AND TRIPLE MORTGAGES THAT ARE OPPRESSING THE SMALL BUSINESSES AND THE WORKERS THAT ARE FORCED TO WORK ON THE SIDE OF THE POLLUTED ROAD AND YET, I NEVER HEAR ALL OF THE COUNCILMEMBERS ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THEY HAVE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST EVERY TIME THEY START THE HOUSING, THE HOMELESS, THE PUBLIC SAFETY AND THE LANDLORD-TENANT ISSUES AND EVEN THE ETHICS ISSUES. YOU ALL ARE SIGNALING WHENEVER YOU CAN MANIPULATE THE MEDIA TO SEEM LIKE YOU ARE IMPROVING YOUR SELF FROM CERTAIN CONSIDERATIONS ON RENTAL AND IT IS OFFENSIVE. YOU WILL NEED LEGISLATION TO PRIORITIZE FINANCING NEW HOMES AND BUILDINGS. >> THANK YOU, DAVID. COUNCIL MEMBERS, THAT WAS OUR LAST SPEAKER. >> AS THAT WAS OUR LAST SPEAKER, THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD IS NOW CLOSED. WE WILL NOW MOON TO THE FIRST ITEM OFOUR BUSINESS. WILL THE CLERK PLEASE READ ITEMS ONE THROUGH THREE INTO THE AGENDA? >> AGENDA ITEMS ONE THROUGH THREE, APPOINTMENT 03186 THROUGH 03188, THE REAPPOINTMENT AND APPOINTMENT OF McCAELA DAFFERN, REBECCA BRUNN AND JULIA JANNON-SHIELDS AS MEMBERS OF THE SEATTLE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR A TERM OF APRIL 15, 2028, FOR BREAKING, DISCUSSION, AND POSSIBLE VOTE. >> THANK YOU. IC OUR PRESENTERS ARE COMING UP TO THE TABLE. WHEN YOU ARE READY, PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELVES FOR THE RECORD AND YOU MAY BEGIN. >> AM I LIVE? THANK YOU SO MUCH CHAIR SOLOMON AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE. MY NAME IS VANESSA MURDOCK AND I AM THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE SEATTLE SCIENCE MISSION. I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO INTRODUCE OURSELVES HERE TODAY AND THE APPOINTEES RECOMMENDED. I WILL TURN TO THEM IN JUST A MOMENT. I DO WANT TO GIVE A QUICK SYNOPSIS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION. THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS A 16 MEMBER INDEPENDENT VOLUNTEER BODY THAT IS APPOINTED BY THIS BODY, THE COUNCIL, THE MAYOR, AND THE COMMISSION ITSELF WITH ALL APPOINTMENTS BEING SUBJECT TO THE FULL CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL. THE COMMISSION ADVISES THIS BODY, THE MAYOR, AND CITY STAFF ON ISSUES RELATED TO LAND USE HOUSING TRANSPORTATION AND LIVABILITY. IN THE PAST FEW YEARS, WE HAVE BEEN VERY INVOLVED IN FOLLOWING THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE ONE SEATTLE PLAN AND WE ARE CAREFULLY FOLLOWING THE DELIBERATIONS OF THIS BODY AS YOU CONSIDER THAT PLAN AND THE ASSOCIATED LEGISLATION. WE LOOK FORWARD TO MAKING PUBLIC COMMENT AT THE HEARING ON MONDAY AND AGAIN, WE ARE FOLLOWING THE DELIBERATIONS VERY CLOSELY. WITH THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO TURN IT TO REBECCA BRUNN TO INTRODUCE HERSELF AND THEN FOLLOWING THAT WILL BE JULIA. >> HELLO. I AM LIVE. GREAT. THAT AFTERNOON, COMMITTEE MEMBERS. THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. MY NAME IS REBECCA BRUNN. I USE SHE/HER PRONOUNS, I AM A RENTER IN DISTRICT 6 AND I AM DELIGHTED TO BE HERE BEING CONSIDERED FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION. IN MY DAY JOB, I AM A SENIOR PROJECT MANAGER FOR TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT, OUTBOUND TRANSIT I MANAGE A PORTFOLIO OF AGENCY OWNED SURPLUS PROPERTIES ON THEIR JOURNEY TOWARD REDEVELOPMENT AS AFFORDABLE HOUSING. I HAVE PROJECTS ALL OVER THE CITY AND BEYOND AND THEY INCLUDE AFFORDABLE MULTIFAMILY RENTAL PROJECTS AND EMINENTLY AFFORDABLE PROJECTS. I HAVE SEEN FIRST-HAND ALL OF THE JOYS AND FRUSTRATIONS OF HOUSING DEVELOPMENT AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT AND BEYOND THAT, SEEN HOW IMPORTANT IT IS THAT WE REALLY CAPITALIZE ON THESE GENERATIONAL DEVELOPMENTS ON TRANSIT INFRASTRUCTURE TO BUILD OUT AREAS AND HELP OUT HOUSEHOLDS OF ALL SHAPES AND SIZES TO AFFORD THE MOBILITY THAT IS REQUIRED TO FULLY PARTICIPATE IN THE CITY. I WAS REALLY INSPIRED TO APPLY TO THE COMMISSION BECAUSE I THINK THAT THE PORTABILITY AND MOBILITY SHOULD BE EXTENDED TO EVERYBODY IN THE CITY NO MATTER WHERE THEY LIVE, STATIONARY OR NOT AND THAT LAND USE POLICIES TEND THEMSELVES TO GENERATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES TO OFFER THE OPPORTUNITY FOR EVERYONE TO TRULY PARTICIPATE AND BE IN CONVERSATION WITH THE CITY THAT THEY LIVE IN. THANK YOU AGAIN FOR HAVING ME. I AM REALLY EXCITED TO GET TO WORK, PENDING APPROVAL. THANK YOU AGAIN. >> THANK YOU, REBECCA. JULIA JANNON-SHIELDS? >> HERE WE GO. HI ALL, LAND USE COMMITTEE COUNCILMEMBERS. I AM JULIA JANNON-SHIELDS AND I USE SHE/HER PRONOUNS AND I AM HONORED TO BE CONSIDERED FOR APPOINTMENT TO THE SEATTLE PLANNING COMMISSION. I GREW UP IN THE SAN FRANCISCO BAY AREA WHERE I SAW FIRSTHAND HOW RAPID DEVELOPMENT CAN HARM DIRECTLY UNDERSERVED COMMUNITIES AND THE SURROUNDING ENVIRONMENTS AND THAT EXPERIENCE REALLY SHAPED MY COMMITMENT TO COMMUNITY DRIVEN PLANNING THAT ALLOWS PEOPLE TO THRIVE IN PLACE. I CURRENTLY SERVE AS KING COUNTY'S INAUGURAL REGIONAL PLANNING EQUITY ENGAGEMENT PROGRAM MANAGER, LEADING EQUITABLE ENGAGEMENT AND LONG-RANGE PLANNING. I ALSO COCHAIRED THE PUGET SOUND REGIONAL COUNCIL EQUITY ADVISORY COMMITTEE, SERVE ON THE BOARD OF COMMUNITY LAND TRUST AND AND A PARTNER AT BLACK SPACE URBAN COLLECTIVE WASTE OUT OF NEW YORK WHERE I LEAD WORKSHOPS FOR ORGANIZATIONS LIKE THE AMERICAN PLANNING ASSOCIATION ON CULTURALLY RESPONSIVE ENGAGEMENT AND PLANNING PRACTICES. I DEEPLY RESPECT TO THE COMMISSION'S EFFORTS TO AMPLIFY TRANSPARENCY AND COMMUNITY VOICE, HENCE MY INTEREST IN APPLYING AND I'M EXCITED ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITY TO CONTRIBUTE TO A MORE INCLUSIVE, COLLABORATIVE, AND HEALING APPROACH TO PLANNING SEATTLE'S FUTURE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION. >> DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO THE PERSON WHO IS UP FOR REAPPOINTMENT? >> CERTAINLY. McCAELA DAFFERN IS CURRENTLY COCHAIR OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION. SHE IS THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMMITTEE MANAGER WITH KING COUNTY'S HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT POSITION. McCAELA HAS SERVED THREE YEARS AND IS SEEKING REAPPOINTMENT TO SERVE ANOTHER THREE . SHE BRINGS THE EXPERIENCE OF WORKING AT THE COUNTY, WORKING ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING ISSUES PRIOR TO HER TIME AT THE COUNTY. SHE WORKED FOR COMMUNITY HOUSING UP ON CAPITOL HILL. SHE IS A GREAT ASSET TO THE COMMISSION AND I AM HOPEFUL THAT YOU WILL APPROVE HER REAPPOINTMENT. >> COMMITTEE MEMBERS, COLLEAGUES, DO WE HAVE QUESTIONS, COMMENTS FOR OUR GUESTS? COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS? EXCEEDS, VICE CHAIR. >> CALL ME WHATEVER YOU NEED TO. CLERK , I AM ALSO GOING TO ASK TO SHARE A SCREEN. I KNOW THAT IS A LITTLE ODD BUT REBECCA, IT IS NICE TO MEET YOU. I GOT TO RIDE THE BUS WITH HATCHER YESTERDAY AND HEARD THAT UNFORTUNATE NEWS BUT I AM REALLY EXCITED TO MEET YOU. SOMETHING THAT I TALKED TO THATCHER ABOUT, DOING TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT, I AM SEATTLE'S SISTER CITY LIAISON WITH A CITY IN CHINA. IT IS THE WORLD'S LARGEST CITY OF 38 MILLION PEOPLE. THEY HAVE A LIGHT RAIL THAT IS ACTUALLY IN A BUILDING. I AM GOING TO SHOW THIS IF I CAN FIGURE OUT HOW TO USE -- THERE WE GO. HERE WE GO. HERE WE HAVE AN ACTUAL LIGHT RAIL STATION WITHIN A BUILDING. I WOULD LIKE TO SUBMIT THIS FOR THE RECORD AS SOMETHING THAT IS VERY -- WE HAVE THE SPACE. I AM ALWAYS PUSHING, CAN WE DO THIS? CAN WE DO THIS? I HAVE HEARD MAYBE, NOT YET, WE CAN LOOK INTO IT. SINCE I HAVE YOU BEFORE ME RIGHT NOW, WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO TO BE READY TO HAVE LIGHT RAIL COME INTO SEATTLE FROM A PLANNING COMMISSION STANDPOINT? WE'VE GOT NEARLY $20-$30 BILLION OF INVESTMENTS. IT WILL BE 100 YEAR INFRASTRUCTURE. WHAT WE NEED TO BE THINKING ABOUT WHEN WE ARE GETTING READY TO HAVE LIGHT RAIL COME EXPAND WITHIN OUR CITY? >> A SIMPLE, EASY QUESTION. VERY EASY TO ANSWER. I WOULD NEVER TRY TO SPEAK ON THATCHER'S BEHALF. HE IS THE DIRECTOR OF THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT OFFICE AND IS THE HIGHEST BETWEEN OUR DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM. I BELIEVE WHAT THAT REFERENCE WOULD BE IS THE DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS, POSSIBLY THAT EFFORT IS WELL UNDERWAY, TRYING TO INTEGRATE AFFORDABLE HOUSING , OTHER TYPES OF DEVELOPMENT WITH OUR LIGHT RAIL STATIONS AND OUR NEW ALIGNMENTS. I AM NOT A PART OF THAT PROGRAM SO I CANNOT SPEAK TO THAT SPECIFICALLY BUT I WOULD SAY I'M THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S PERSPECTIVE, THEY DO GREAT WORK IN LOOKING AT LAND USE CODE, DEVELOPMENT CAPACITY, LOOKING AT PERMITTING REFORMS, THINGS LIKE THAT, ALL OF THESE THINGS WE CAN DO TO GREASE THE WHEEL TOWARD HITTING THOSE PROJECTS OFF THE GROUND, MAKING GOOD RELATIONSHIPS WITH THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY WITH THE LOCAL JURISDICTION, WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, REALLY PUTTING IN THAT WORK ON THE FRONT END TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN WE ARE READY TO PUT IN THAT INFRASTRUCTURE, WHETHER IT IS DELIVERED CONCURRENTLY OR SEQUENTIALLY WITH THE TRANSIT AND THE DEVELOPMENT, HOWEVER THAT CAN WORK, TO MAKE SURE WE READ FOR IT WHEN IT HAPPENS AND WE DON'T MISS THAT WINDOW. I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT AND I THINK THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE CITY HAVE BEEN DOING GREAT WORK ON GETTING THERE ALREADY. >> AWESOME. THANK YOU. JULIA, YOU SERVE WITH THE HOMESTEAD COMMUNITY LAND TRUST. THEY JUST HONORED ONE OF MY LONGTIME HEROES, STEVE DARCY PUTTING AN A/D YOU BEHIND IT AND NOW PUTTING THAT ON THE MARKET AS AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR EVERYDAY PEOPLE. WHAT DO WE NEED TO BE THINKING ABOUT AS FAR AS LAND USE ZONING AND PLANNING? WHAT WE NEED TO BE THINKING ABOUT IN ORDER TO SUPPORT PROGRAMS LIKE HOMESTEAD COMMUNITY LAND TRUST TO PROVIDE THOSE AFFORDABLE HOMEOWNERSHIP OPPORTUNITIES TO SEATTLEITES? >> PULLED A REAL CLOSE TO YOUR MOUTH. >> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER, FOR THE QUESTION. I THINK IT IS SO THOUGHTFUL AND CLEAR THE INTENTION AND CARE THAT IS BEHIND IT. I THINK WHEN IT COMES TO ORGANIZATIONS LIKE HOMESTEAD COMMUNITY LAND TRUST AND WORKING TO ENSURE WE HAVE MORE PORTABLE HOUSING WITH THINGS WE CAN DO AS THE CITY OF SEATTLE AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION, I THINK ABOUT THE NEIGHBORHOODS FOR ALL REPORT AND REALLY THE FOCUS ON COMMUNITY IMPACT AND WHERE COMMUNITY NEEDS ARE HIGHEST TO REALLY ENSURE THAT WE ARE MOVING THE NEEDLE IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. HOMESTEAD COMMUNITY LAND TRUST HAS BEEN REALLY TRANSFORMATIVE IN TERMS OF CENTERING ENGAGEMENT AND PROCESSES LIKE COMMUNITY TO THINK ABOUT WHAT DO WE REALLY WANT TO SEE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS AND HOW CAN WE ENSURE THAT IT IS NOT -- CONTINUES TO PRESERVE THE HISTORY AND THE CULTURE OF OUR REGION WHILE CONTINUING TO PUT A PATH FORWARD TOGETHER. WHILE I MIGHT NOT HAVE A DIRECT OVERARCHING ANSWER, COMMUNITY REALLY KNOWS BEST AND IT HAS BEEN REALLY INSIGHTFUL AND WONDERFUL. AS A BOARD MEMBER, SPEAK ON DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES, HEARING WHAT THEY WANT AND HOW THEY CAN REALLY BUILD TOGETHER. WE SPENT LAST WEEKEND IN THE SKYWAY DOING A TWO DAY COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PROCESS WHERE WE TALKED ABOUT THE HISTORY OF REDLINING WITHIN SEATTLE, THEN THE DESIGN MAPPING AND WHAT DO WE WANT TO SEE AND HOW CAN THAT REALLY BE REFLECTED AND THAT TYPE OF WORK THROUGHOUT KING COUNTY AND THE CITY OF SEATTLE IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO CONTINUE PUSHING THIS FORWARD AND HAVING PROCESSES LIKE THE PLANNING COMMISSION I REALLY ALLOW COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO BE IN FRONT OF AUDIENCES LIKE THIS AND TALK ABOUT WHAT THEY WANT TO SEE AND HOW THEY CAN CONTINUE TO REPRESENT THE COMMUNITIES TO ENSURE WE ARE WORKING TOWARD A SEATTLE FOR EVERYONE. I HOPE THAT IS INSIGHTFUL AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO WORK TOWARD THOSE DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES COMING TOGETHER. >> ANSWER THAT GIVES ME HOMEWORK TO READ THE REPORT. >> THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR VOLUNTEER SERVICE TO OUR COMMITTEE. THANK YOU, CHAIR. >> COUNCIL MEMBER RINCK? >> THANK YOU, CHAIR . THANK YOU BOTH FOR BEING HERE TODAY TO SPEAK WITH US. THANK YOU FOR BEING WILLING TO SERVE ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION. IT IS CLEAR THAT YOU BOTH BRING AN ABUNDANCE OF EXPERTISE. I AM THINKING ABOUT THE BODIES OF WORK COMING AHEAD OF US AND WE ARE MOVING . WE ARE GOING TO KEEP BEING IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WORK FOR A WHILE AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS WEIGHED IN ON THE PREVIOUS DRAFTS OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND I AM WONDERING FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE, WHAT DO YOU THINK ARE THE OPPORTUNITIES WE HAVE AS A COUNCIL AND AS A CITY WITH THIS CONFERENCE A PLAN AS WE ARE ENGAGING THIS WORK AND HOW WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE COUNCIL BE BETTER ENGAGING WITH A BODY OF WORK? >> I WILL TAKE A STAB AT THAT. OBVIOUSLY IT IS A BIG LIST, HUGE EFFORT, SO MANY VOICES IN THE ROOM, SO MANY VOICES COMING FROM EVERYWHERE. IT IS VERY DIFFICULT FOR COUNCIL TO REALLY TAKE INTO ACCOUNT ALL OF THOSE DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE LIVES AND COME TO A CONCLUSION THAT EVERYONE IS HAPPY WITH AND I FEEL LIKE WHAT HAS COME OUT OF THE PROCESS IS GOOD. OBVIOUSLY WE WOULD LOVE TO SEE A LOT OF HOUSING DIVERSITY, A LOT OF DENSITY AND A LOT OF ROOM FOR GROWTH THERE. WHAT CAME OUT OF THAT PROCESS IS A GOOD REPRESENTATION OF COMPROMISE AND I APPRECIATE THE EFFORT PUT INTO THAT COMPROMISE. PERSONALLY, I WOULD HAVE LOVED TO HAVE SEEN IT ON FURTHER. I CAN'T SPEAK TO HOW THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS INTERACTED BECAUSE I WAS NOT ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION BUT I DO KNOW THAT THEY HAVE VOICED A SIMILAR OPINION THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS. I AGREE WITH THAT OPINION. HOWEVER, THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS TO ADVISE THE COUNCIL AND LET YOU ALL MAKE THE HARD DECISIONS ON LISTENING TO THOSE VOICES BUT I WOULD LOVE TO SEE FURTHER ENGAGEMENT WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION ON BOTH THE COMP PLAN AND WHATEVER WORK FURTHER COMES OUT THROUGH THAT. THERE ARE ALWAYS ITEMS THAT ARE REVEALED THROUGH A DISCUSSION AND COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT BUT THAT CAN BE SNUFFED OUT AFTER THE FACT, ONE THAT FOCUSES FROM GETTING THIS DOCUMENT AND THIS PACKAGE DONE TO LET'S LOOK BACK AT THE PROCESS AND SEE WHAT WE CAN OPTIMIZE IN THE FUTURE. THOSE ARE MY INITIAL THOUGHTS. I AM SURE I WILL HAVE MORE IN THE COMING WEEKS. >> THAT WAS WONDERFUL. I DEFINITELY ECHO THE SENTIMENT. I THINK THE OTHER THING THAT COMES TO MIND FOR ME IS, IN THIS PAST ENGAGEMENT PROCESS WITH THE PLAN TO REALLY DEDICATE FUNDS TOWARD ALLOCATING THEM TO COMMUNITY-BASED ORGANIZATIONS TO LEAD THEIR EFFORTS AND THEIR COMMUNITY, REALLY UNDERSTANDING THEM AS EXPERTS AND GETTING TO BE DOING COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT IN A WAY THAT IS REALLY AUTHENTIC WAS REALLY EXPIRING -- INSPIRING, ESPECIALLY AS I AM STARTING OUT THIS NEW PROGRAM IN KING COUNTY FOR REGIONAL PLANNING EQUITY AND ENGAGEMENT. THOSE ARE MODELS THAT I AM JUST IN AWE OF AND AM REALLY GRATEFUL TO BE SEEING AND HAVING PARTNERED OUR REGION THAT ARE DEDICATED TO THAT AND MOVING FORWARD, AT LEAST FROM A PLANNING COMMISSION PERSPECTIVE AND WORKING WITH COUNCIL, CONTINUING TO ENSURE THAT THERE ARE FUNDS DEDICATED TO COMMUNITY PARTICIPATION IN A RANGE OF WAYS TO ENSURE THAT FOLKS CAN COME WHETHER IT IS CHILDCARE OR FOOD OR TRANSPORTATION BUT THEN ALSO CONTINUING TO HONOR THFACT THATY BEST AND GIVING THEM THOSE RESOURCES WHERE THEY ARE NEEDED AND MEETING PEOPLE WHERE THEY ARE AT. I THOUGHT THAT WAS WONDERFUL AND LOOKING FORWARD TO THE WAYS THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO PARTNER AND PUSH THAT WORK FORWARD. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU BOTH AGAIN FOR YOUR SERVICE. REALLY EXCITED TO HAVE YOU JOINING THE PLANNING COMMISSION. THANK YOU, CHAIR. >> THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA, ANY COMMENTS FROM YOU? >> NO COMMENTS FROM -- WELL, I WILL JUST SAY LIKE I ALWAYS SAY. I RECOGNIZE THAT THESE ARE VOLUNTEER POSITIONS. I ALWAYS APPRECIATE EVERYONE SHOWING UP TO SERVE. IT IS AN IMPORTANT -- THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS AN IMPORTANT BODY AS IT ADVISES ON ALL THINGS LAND USE RELATED AND I APPRECIATE YOUR WILLINGNESS TO SERVE. >> THANK YOU. I HAVE NOTHING FURTHER TO ADD. I WANT TO EXPRESS MY GRATITUDE FOR YOUR WILLINGNESS TO SERVE. IT IS A REALLY HIGH-PAYING GIG. DEFINITELY APPRECIATE YOU AND EVERY PERSON ON EVERY COMMISSION TO TAKE THEIR VOLUNTEER TIME. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WITH THAT , I MOVED THAT THE COMMITTEE RECOMMEND CONFIRMATION OF APPOINTMENTS 3186 THROUGH 3188. IS THERE A SECOND? >> SECOND. >> IT HAS BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED TO RECOMMEND CONFIRMATION OF THE APPOINTMENTS. ANY OTHER FURTHER COMMENT? OKAY. CLERK, WILL YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? >> COUNCIL MEMBER STRAUSS? >> YES. >> COUNCIL MEMBER RINCK? >> YES. >> COUNCIL MEMBER RIVERA? >> AYE. >> CHAIR SOLOMON? >> AYE. >> VERY GOOD. THE MOTION CARRIES AND THE COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATIONS AS COUNCIL CONFIRMS THE APPOINTMENT WILL BE SENT TO THE JUNE 24, 2025 FULL CITY COUNCIL MEETING. THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH. AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO BRINGING YOU THE FULL NOMINATIONS -- YOUR FULL NOMINATIONS TO THE COMMITTEE FOR APPOINTMENT CONFIRMATION. >> THANK YOU ALL. >> THANK YOU. >> WE ARE GOING TO BE DOING A BIT OF A TRANSITION HERE. CLERK, WILL YOU PLEASE READ AGENDA ITEM FOUR INTO THE RECORD? >> AGENDA ITEM 4, CONFIRMATION 26400, INFORMATIONAL ITEM CONSERVING CRIME PREVENTION THROUGH BARE-METAL DESIGN, FOR BRIEFING AND DISCUSSION. >> FOR THIS PORTION, I WILL BE MOVING TO THE PRESENTATION TABLE AND I WILL BE JOINED BY SOME COLLEAGUES THERE. >>> WE ARE CONTINUING THE DISCUSSION ON CRIME PREVENTION THROUGH ENVIRONMENTAL DESIGN AND THE ARGUMENT FOR GETTING IT CODIFIED IN SEATTLE AND I WOULD LIKE MY COLLEAGUES TO INTRODUCE THEMSELVES FOR THE RECORD. >> I'M LISA NITZE , PRINCIPAL WITH NITZE-STAGEN AND DEVELOPER IN SEATTLE. >> I'M LORI McEWUEN , THE VICE PRESIDENT OF DEVELOPMENT AT NITZE-STAGEN. >> ONE OF THE REASONS THAT I HAVE ASKED THEM TO JOIN ME IS THAT THEY ARE DEVELOPERS. THEY ARE THE ONES THAT ARE BUILDING OUR HOUSING. THEY ARE THE ONES WHO VOLUNTARILY REACHED OUT TO ME TO SAY, HEY, WE HAVE THE PROJECT. I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT AND ACKNOWLEDGE HER PERSPECTIVE WHEN IT COMES TO THE TOPIC. TO PICK UP WHERE WE LEFT OFF BEFORE, AS MENTIONED, THESE ARE JUST AN EXAMPLE OF PROJECT'S -- PROJECTS I HAVE LOOKED AT. COMMUNITY CENTERS, OPEN SPACES. THE SPACES DO APPLY TO THE BUILT ENVIRONMENT BUT ANY HUMAN ENVIRONMENT. COMMUNITY CENTER, PARK. TO THAT END, I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT A COUPLE OF PROJECT'S. I WANT TO HAVE MORE DISCUSSION. I THOUGHT IT WAS MORE IMPORTANT. ONE OF THE PROJECTS WE LOOKED AT IS THE NITZE-STAGEN PROJECT ON 4001 SOUTH WILLOW STREET. AN EIGHT STORY BUILDING, 195 RESIDENTIAL UNITS, 12 PARKING STALLS. I JUST DON'T LOOK AT WHAT THE BUILDING IS, I LOOK AT WHERE IS IT GOING, WHERE IS IN THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD, HOW IT WILL IMPACT THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT AND HOW IS THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT GOING TO IMPACT THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD. WHEN I LOOK AT THIS ONE, I AM LOOKING AT WHAT IS IN THE AREA. IT IS BASICALLY TWO WALKS AWAY FROM THE LIGHT RAIL STATION AREA. ACROSS THE STREET, YOU HAVE A TAX CREDIT PROPERTY. RIGHT DOWN THE STREET, YOU HAVE ANOTHER LOW INCOME TAX CREDIT PROPERTY. YOU ALSO HAVE MARKET RATE APARTMENTS IN THE IMMEDIATE AREA AS WELL AS A SEATTLE HOUSING AUTHORITY PROPERTIES. YOU HAVE SHOPPING, COMMERCIAL MEDICAL DENTAL BANKING. VERY THRIVING, VERY DIVERSE COMMUNITY. SO, WHEN I LOOKED AT THE INITIAL PLAN, WHAT YOU ARE SEEING HERE IS THE PICTURE ABOVE, THE GARAGE LEVEL. AS A PRACTITIONER, I AM LOOKING AT WHERE ARE POTENTIAL ACCESS POINTS. WHERE ARE THE POTENTIAL CONFLICT POINTS. I AM LOOKING AT THE GROUND LEVEL. I AM LOOKING AT WHERE IS THE ENTRANCE TO THIS GARAGE? WHERE IS THAT RAMP? I AM ALSO LOOKING AT HOW WIDE IS THAT RAMP? I WANT TO MAKE SURE THE VEHICLES GOING IN AND COMING OUT CAN BE CONSISTENT WITH EACH OTHER AS WELL AS SOMETHING I AM LOOKING AT, HOW CAN WE HAVE VISUAL CUES IN THE GARAGE TO PREVENT PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC, ICICLE TRAFFIC AND VEHICULAR TRAFFIC FROM COMING INTO CONFLICT WITH EACH OTHER. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR SET UP HERE. >> I AM GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO LORI. I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT WE NOW ARE PRIMARILY BUILDING MIXED INCOME AND AFFORDABLE MULTIFAMILY HOUSING IN OPPORTUNITY ZONES. WE HAVE MANY OF THEM GOING UP IN THE SOUTH SEATTLE AREA AND THREE OF THEM IN OTHELLO. THE FIRST THING THAT WE DO WHEN WE BEGIN PUTTING OUR PLANS TOGETHER, HAS BEEN TO GO TO MARK AND SAY, WHAT ARE WE MISSING HERE? WHAT ARE WE MISSING HERE THAT WILL CAUSE ISSUES FOR SAFETY FOR OUR TENANTS THAT ARE GOING TO CREATE PROBLEMS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. WE ARE LOOKING AT IT IN A WHOLE LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE AND YOU MISS STUFF. MARK HAS BEEN ENORMOUSLY HELPFUL TO US AND HE HAS DONE THAT NOW FOR I THINK SIX OF OUR PROJECTS. LORI CAN SPEAK TO THE SPECIFICS OF IT. OF COURSE, MARK IS LOOKING AT IT FROM HIS PERSPECTIVE WHICH IS ALL SAFETY. THEN THERE IS MEETING IN THE MIDDLE. THERE ARE THINGS WE CAN DO THAT MIGHT BE FORGOTTEN ABOUT. ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT YOU ASK IMMEDIATELY, MARK, IS AROUND THE ACCESS AND IN THAT CASE, THE RAMP -- THIS IS GOING TO BE TRICKY. WHAT WE TAKE FROM THE CHECKLIST IS THAT WE ARE CONSTRAINED ON THE SITE. WE CAN'T MAYBE HAVE THIS AS WIDE AS WE LIKE. LET'S PUT IN SOME MIRRORS. LET'S PUT IN STRATEGIES WE CAN ADD AND REALLY ADDRESS SAFETY . WE CAN'T BUILD IT THAT WAY BUT WE CAN PUT IN ELEMENTS TO IMPROVE IT. IN THIS GARAGE, WE HAVE VERY LIMITED PARKING BUT WE ALSO HAVE ALL THE BIKES IN THE BUILDING AND WE HAVE A FITNESS CENTER. THERE ARE A LOT OF DIFFERENT USES THAT ARE MOVING AROUND ON THIS LEVEL. >> THANK YOU. I WILL POINT OUT THAT WHEN I FIRST GOT THIS PROJECT, IT LOOKS DIFFERENT THAN IT DOES NOW. THE AMENITY OF THE FITNESS CENTER WAS NEW. THE LOCATIONS OF BIKE STORAGE HAS BEEN MOVED. THIS HAS BEEN A LITTLE BIT OF THE CHANGE HERE . I ALSO ASKED ABOUT WHAT COLOR ARE THE WALLS? IF YOU HAVE LIGHT-COLORED WALLS AND A GARAGE, YOU CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE REFLECTIVE LIGHT AND YOU DON'T NEED AS MANY LIGHTS STANDARD. THAT CAN CREATE ENERGY EFFICIENCY. THAT IS WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT WITH THE GARAGE. I AM ALSO THINKING THAT ONCE I AM IN THE GARAGE, I CAN GET ANYWHERE IN THAT BUILDING AND FROM A SAFETY AND SECURITY STANDPOINT, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT SOMETHING LIKE THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN HERE . IF YOU ARE IN THE GARAGE AND YOU NEED TO GET TO THE STREET LEVEL BUT YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO GET TO ANY OF THE RESIDENTIAL LEVELS AND THAT MEANS HAVING THE ELEVATORS FOBBED. THOSE ARE SOME OF THE CONSIDERATIONS I WOULD BRING FORTH WITH THEM. WHEN I LOOK AT THE AMENITY OF THE FITNESS ROOM, I AM WONDERING, IS THERE SOME KIND OF GLAZING THERE? CAN PEOPLE LOOK OUT? CAN FOLKS WHO ARE IN THE GARAGE SEE INTO THE FITNESS ROOM? WHAT KIND OF VISIBILITY IS BETWEEN THOSE TWO PLACES SO THAT IF I AM GOING TO GO INTO THE FITNESS ROOM, I WANT TO KNOW WHAT I'M WALKING INTO. I WANT TO IS IN THERE SO I AM NOT SURPRISED THAT THERE IS SIX GUYS WHO WEIGH 300 POUNDS PUMPING AWAY. JUST AS A PRECAUTION. WHEN I LOOKED AT THE GROUND FLOOR, THE PRIMARY THING THAT STANDS OUT TO ME, AND THAT IS THE PHOTO ON THE BOTTOM LEVEL, WHERE IS THE MAIN ENTRANCE? HOW DO I GET INTO THIS PLACE? YOU CAN SEE OVER ON THE RIGHT SIDE WHERE YOU HAVE THE RESIDENTIAL UNITS, THOUGH ONE-BEDROOM, THE TWO BEDROOM LOFT, THAT WAS INITIALLY DESIGNED TO BE A COMMERCIAL SPACE. THAT HAS SINCE BEEN TAKEN OUT AND HAS NOW BEEN UPGRADED TO RESIDENTIAL UNITS ONLY WHICH IS WHY THE INITIAL UNIT COUNT OF 191 HAS NOW INCREASED TO 195. THE COMMERCIAL SPACE WAS TAKEN OUT. ADDITIONAL RENTALS WERE PUT IN. THAT BEING SAID, I STILL WANT TO KNOW, WHERE IS MY ENTRY POINT? I SEE THERE IS A LOBBY VESTIBULE THAT ENTERS INTO THE LOBBY. IS NOT A CONTROLLED ENTRY THAT YOU NEED A KEY CARD TO GET IN? IS THERE A SECONDARY LOCK? YOU NEED TO BUZZ IN, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. WHERE DOES THE LEASING OFFICE HAVE VISIBILITY OF THE LOBBY? DOES THE LEASING OFFICE HAVE GOOD VISIBILITY OF A PACKAGE AREA AND THE MAIL AREA? ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I SEE OFTEN IN THESE TYPES OF BUILDINGS IS PACKAGING. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS GOOD VISIBILITY THROUGHOUT THAT COMMON SPACE. AGAIN, DO I NEED TO PROPERLY ACCESS THE ELEVATORS? DO I NEED A FOB TO ACCESS ANY OF THESE RESIDENTIAL HALLWAYS? THAT IS SOMETHING I WOULD ALSO BE LOOKING AT. >> I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE A VISUAL OF THE EXTERIOR. >> I DO. >> THE ONE THING I SAY BEFORE WE LEAVE THIS IS THAT AFTER OUR CONVERSATION FOR ALL OF OUR PROJECTS, ONE THING WE ARE REALLY THOUGHTFUL ABOUT IS TRYING TO PROVIDE ACCESS THROUGH ONE MAIN POINT AND THEN, LIKE IN THIS CASE, THAT HALLWAY IS ONLY AN EXIT. YOU ENTER THROUGH THE MAIN LOBBY AND THEN YOU CAN'T ENTER BACK IN -- YOU CAN SEE THE DOOR AT THE END OF THE HALLWAY. WE ARE REALLY TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE CONTROLLING WHERE PEOPLE ARE COMING INTO THE BUILDING. WE ARE ALLOWING THEM TO EXIT FREELY BUT TO COME THROUGH AN AREA WHERE THERE IS MORE PEOPLE TOGETHER, MAKING SURE THEY KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON. >> THANK YOU. LET ME SEE IF I CAN BACK IT UP TO GET INTO THIS. >> THERE ARE TWO ELEMENTS OF THIS THAT LORI CAN SPEAK ABOUT THAT ARE CHANGED FROM THE ORIGINAL DESIGN THAT ARE SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE OF THE INPUT THAT WE GOT. THE STAIRS AND THE OPEN AREA, WHICH IS LAND THAT BELONGS TO THE CITY THAT WE AGREED TO MAKE INTO A PUBLIC PARK. >> THE STAIRCASE THAT YOU CAN SEE IN THE CENTER OF THE BUILDING THERE, THERE WILL BE A PIECE OF ART ON THAT SCARE CASE -- STAIRCASE THAT WAS DESIGNED BY A LOCAL ARTIST THAT WAS ORIGINALLY DESIGNED AS AN OPEN AIR STAIRCASE THAT PROVIDED -- IT CAUSED SOME DESIGN CHALLENGES BUT ALSO SEEMED LIKE THROUGH OUR CONVERSATIONS WITH COUNCILMEMBER SOLOMON, THAT IT PROVIDED SOME POTENTIAL SECURITY CONCERNS AS WELL. WE JUST BROUGHT THAT INTO THE BUILDING. WE STILL HAVE THE PUBLIC ART. THE PLAZA AREA THAT WE JUST MENTIONED, THAT IS THE AREA WHERE WE HAVE THE MOST INPUT. THAT IS A CITY OF SEATTLE PROPERTY. IT IS ADJACENT TO OUR BUILDING AT THE CORNER OF WILLOW STREET AND MARTIN LUTHER KING JR. SOUTH AND WE WANTED TO IMPROVE THAT PROPERTY HAS A BENEFIT TO THOSE RESIDENTS AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD BUT I THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF CHALLENGES IN THINKING THROUGH WHAT DOES NOT DESIGN LOOK LIKE IN A WAY THAT IS POSITIVE FOR PEOPLE RATHER THAN BECOMING A PROBLEM AREA. THERE IS A LOT OF INPUT ON COUNCILMEMBER SOLOMON AND WHAT THE SPACE TURNED INTO BE. >> THE OPEN-AIR STAIRWELL LOOK LIKE IT COULD BE ACCESSED FROM THE CLOWN FOR -- GROUND FLOOR AND FROM THERE YOU HAD ACCESS TO ALL OF THE RESIDENTIAL LEVELS ABOVE ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS WAS TO HAVE THAT GATED OFF SO THAT IT WASN'T JUST GROUND-LEVEL ACCESS INTO THAT STAIRWELL TO BE ABLE TO GET TO ANYWHERE IN THE BUILDING. ANOTHER ONE OF THE PLANS HAD TO LOOK AT 178 PAGES. TYPICALLY, THAT IS THE KIND OF VOLUME I AM LOOKING AT. AGAIN, I AM PRIMARILY FOCUSED ON GROUND FLOOR, GARAGE, ANY ACCESS POINTS. I AM LOOKING AT GLAZING MATERIAL. I AM LOOKING AT TYPE OF DOORS, TYPE OF LIGHTING. AGAIN, THIS IS BASICALLY THE GARAGE LEVEL THAT WE ALREADY SAW. AGAIN, GROUND-FLOOR. I TEACH OTHER PRACTITIONERS HOW TO LOOK AT A BLUEPRINT, HOW TO REVEAL THE FLOOR PLAN. WE HAVE A GROUND-LEVEL PLANNING SCHEDULE THAT YOU CAN SEE. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WOULD DO ON TOP OF LOOKING AT THE VEGETATION PLAN IS LOOKING AT THE LIGHTING PLAN AND MAKING SURE THAT THE LIGHTING PLAN AND THE VEGETATION PLAN DON'T CONFLICT WITH EACH OTHER BECAUSE IT IS NOT UNCOMMON THAT THERE WILL BE A GREAT VEGETATION PLAN AND GREAT LIGHTING PLAN BUT WHEN THAT VEGETATION REACHES FULL MATURITY, IT IS BLOCKING LIGHT. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE TWO ELEMENTS ARE ACTUALLY IN CONCERT WITH EACH OTHER AND NOT IN CONFLICT WITH EACH OTHER. THE AREA TO YOUR RIGHT, THAT IS THE PLAZA THAT WAS BEING DISCUSSED. THIS OPEN AIR AREA HERE IS FROM THE PREVIOUS PLANS WHERE YOU SEE THE OPEN COURTYARD AND THEN, WHO WERE THE INTENDED USERS FOR THIS? THE FOLKS WHO WILL BE IN THE RETAIL SPACE? OR, WILL IT BE FOR THE FOLKS WHO ARE RESIDENTIAL? HOW DO YOU DO TERRITORIAL REINFORCEMENT TO ENSURE THAT THE SPACE IS BEING USED BY THE FOLKS YOU INTENDED IT TO BE USED BY? AGAIN, WHAT ELSE IS THERE ALREADY. WHO ELSE IS IN THE AREA? HOW ARE WE SEPARATING THAT FROM THE STREET? HOW ARE WE MAKING SURE THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANY VEHICLES IN THAT AREA WERE WE HAVE PEOPLE GATHERING. JUST A COUPLE OF CONSIDERATIONS THAT I HAVE THERE. ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT TO ADD? >> NO. JUST, IN AGGREGATE, BECAUSE WE DO THIS ON ALL OF OUR PROJECTS, OUR DESIGNERS OR ARCHITECTS HAVE REALLY ABSORBED AND OFFERED A LOT. THESE THINGS ARE ALL BEING WORKED IN SUBSEQUENT IN A WAY THAT IT IS HELPFUL. THE ONE THING THAT LORI AND I WERE TALKING ABOUT IS THAT IT HAS TO BE DONE EARLY ON BECAUSE IT IS VERY, VERY EXPENSIVE TO CHANGE WALLS AND LIGHTS AND POLES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. THE VALUE HERE IS GETTING AT THIS VERY EARLY IN THE DESIGN PROCESS AND GETTING INPUT. IF IT IS TOO LATE, THEN IT GETS HARDER AND HARDER TO ACTUALLY IMPLEMENT THE GOOD IDEAS. >> WHICH, ACTUALLY, AT WHAT DESIGN STAGE WOULD IT BE TOO LATE TO IMPLEMENT THESE CHANGES? >> I THINK YOU HAVE TO BE LOOKING AT THIS -- YOU HAVE YOUR MASKING IN PLACE. YOU STARTED TO PUT TOGETHER YOUR SHIP AND THEN YOU CAN ANSWER THE QUESTION RESPECTIVELY ENOUGH. IF IT IS TOO EARLY, YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO RESPOND, TO HAVE THE GUIDANCE, RATHER JUST THE WAY YOU HAVE DONE IT WHERE IT IS ASKING, DO YOU HAVE THIS? IT IS EFFECTIVE WHEN YOU HAVE A SET OF PLANS THAT ARE SO MALLEABLE, WHERE YOU ARE ABLE TO CHANGE THE ELECTRICAL AND ADD LIGHTING AND THEN ALSO, TO DO A SUBSEQUENT CHECK ALMOST RIGHT BEFORE CONSTRUCTION. DID WE GET ALL OF THIS? IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE WE MISSED? IS THERE SOMETHING THAT IS NOW IN CONFLICT WITH WHAT WE HAD EARLIER? TWO REVIEWS. TWO REMINDERS TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE CHECKLIST. >> THANK YOU FOR THAT. YES? >> I HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS. THIS IS VERY GOOD INFORMATION. MAYBE WE WILL ANSWER THIS OVER THE COURSE OF THE CONVERSATION. WHERE I AM GETTING HUNG UP IS A SIMILAR QUESTION. WHEN DO WE CHECK-IN? HOW DO WE CHECK IN? ONE OF THE BEST PARTNERS WE HAVE IN THE CITY, SOMETHING I ALWAYS APPRECIATE ABOUT SOMETHING YOU DO IS THAT THERE IS A THIRD BOTTOM LINE. HOW ARE YOU, AS A COMPANY, BEING A GOOD STEWARD OF SEATTLE AND HOW ARE YOU MAKING SEATTLE BETTER? I AM NOT SURPRISED TO SEE YOU AT THE TABLE TODAY. THE QUESTION FOR ME BECOMES, WHAT ABOUT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT NECESSARILY CIVIC MINDED IN THE SAME WAY? I AM NOT CALLING THEM BAD. THERE IS NO NEGATIVE CONNOTATION. IT IS JUST THAT YOU ARE THAT MUCH BETTER. THANK YOU. HOW DO WE ENGAGE WITH THEM. DO WE CODIFY PARTS OF THIS? THEN, IT BECOMES HARDER IN SOME WAYS. I HAVE SEEN WELL INTENDED CODE BECOME PROBLEMATIC. IS IT ALL CARROTS? ARE WE PROVIDING INCENTIVE? ARE WE PROVIDING A MASSIVE -- LARGER MASS IN HIGHER HEIGHTS? IF PEOPLE ENGAGE IN A CERTAIN ASPECTS OR IS IT REQUIRING CONSULTATION AT CERTAIN POINTS IN THE DESIGN PROCESS. JUST HEARING THE CONVERSATION SO FAR THIS MORNING, THAT IS WHERE MY MIND IS GOING. I AM NOT ASKING FOR A DIRECT ANSWER HERE BUT MAYBE WE CAN WEAVE IT INTO THE CONVERSATION. >> IT IS A GREAT QUESTION AND I THINK THE RIGHT QUESTION BECAUSE THE POINT IS THAT WE ARE ALL TRYING TO DO MAXIMUM THINGS WE CAN IN ORHOOD AND IF ALL OF THE BUILDINGS ARE HAVING THIS LEVEL OF THOUGHTFULNESS ABOUT THIS, IN THE AGGREGATE, IT WILL BE SAFER FOR THE TENANTS. HOW DO YOU GET THERE? I JUST HAPPEN TO HAVE WORKED WITH MARK ON SOME COMMUNITY THINGS. IF YOU WANT, I CAN TAKE A LOOK AT THIS STUFF AND THAT IS HUGE HELP. MARK IS HELPING US IN OUR OWN CIRCLES AND JUST DOING A COUPLE OF PRESENTATIONS ABOUT IT. LORI IS THE ONE TO SPEAK TO IT. IT IS A SHAME NOT TO DO IT. IT IS UP TO US TO HAVE IT PROLIFERATE SOME BUT THEN THE FAR END OF THAT IS FOR DEVELOPERS, THE MORE MANDATES THAT YOU CREATE AND THE MORE THINGS THAT ONE HAS TO DO OR HAS TO WAIT FOR AN REVIEW ON OR OTHER KINDS OF THINGS, THAT IS TERRIBLY COSTLY AND VERY, VERY BURDENSOME WHEN WE ARE ALL TRYING TO GET SUCCESSFUL HOUSING BUILT AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE TO MEET THE NEED. IT IS SOMEWHERE IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT. >> I WOULD AGREE. I WOULD SAY PROVIDING THE CHECKLIST EARLY ON, WHEN YOU BEGIN THE PERMITTING PROCESS, I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU INCORPORATE IT BUT THE CHECKLIST GETS YOUR WHEELS TURNING. IT IS NOT NECESSARILY THAT YOU PLAN AND WAIT X AMOUNT OF MONTHS FOR A RESPONSE BUT THESE ARE THE THINGS YOU NEED TO BE THINKING ABOUT. DO YOU HAVE THESE? THEN, ALLOW THE DEVELOPER TO TAKE IT FROM THERE. THESE ARE THE ELEMENTS -- THE CHECKLIST IS SO THOROUGH AND THOUGHTFUL. DEVELOPERS CAN INCORPORATE THESE THINGS IF THEY ARE GIVEN THE GUIDANCE ON HOW IT CAN BE DONE PROPERLY. >> I JUST LOOK AT BUILDINGS IN BALLARD THAT WERE BUILT IN THE 2006 TO 2010 RANGE THAT DID NOT EVEN HAVE GATES ON THEIR GARAGES. THEY JUST GOT OPEN PARKING LOTS AND THE PUBLIC SAFETY CHALLENGES THAT WERE CREATED FROM THOSE POCKETS, IF YOU WILL, NOT ONLY IMPACTED THE RESIDENTS BUT IMPACTED THE GREATER COMMUNITY. A LOT OF THOSE HOA'S HAD TO PUT $30,000 IN TO MAKE THOSE RETROFITS. IT IS HARD TO GO AND FIX THE PROBLEM ONCE IT IS BUILT. THAT IS WHY I THINK -- COUNCILMEMBER SOLOMON, YOUR QUESTION OF WHEN IT IS THE RIGHT TIME IS EXACTLY RIGHT . I'M GOING TO BE QUIET AND KEEP LISTENING TO THE PRESENTATION AND I WOULD LOVE TO KEEP WORKING AND ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS. >> GREAT. THAT ACTUALLY IS A GOOD SEGUE. AT WHAT POINT IS IT TOO LATE TO MAKE CHANGES? THAT IS DIRECTLY RELATED TO THE COMMUNITY CENTER. I WAS ASKED BY THE PARKS DEPARTMENT TO REVIEW THIS AS THE CENTER WAS UNDER REDEVELOPMENT. THEY WERE ALREADY SO FAR ALONG IN THE PROCESS. I THINK THEY WERE AT THE 60% STAGE. ANYTHING I RECOMMENDED AT THAT POINT WAS PROBABLY TOO LATE AND THE ONE THING I NOTICED WHEN I WAS LOOKING AT THIS PLAN -- AGAIN, I AM ALWAYS LOOKING WHERE IS THIS THING? WHAT IS IN THE AREA? WHAT IS THE IMPACT OF SURROUNDING AREA GOING TO BE ON IT? WHAT IS THE IMPACT OF IT ON THE SURROUNDING AREA AND WHEN I LURK -- LOOK, YOU HAVE A POOL, YOU HAVE HENDERSON WHICH HAS SEVEN DIFFERENT BUS ROUTES THAT CONVERGE. YOU HAVE RAINIER BEACH HIGH SCHOOL A COUPLE OF BLOCKS TO THE EAST. YOU HAVE THE LIBRARY A COUPLE OF BLOCKS SOUTH. YOU HAVE MAJOR SHOPPING THAT IS KITTY CORNER FROM THERE. YOU HAVE JUST ABOUT TWO BLOCKS WEST, AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. TO THE NORTH OF THIS, YOU HAVE AN ALTERNATIVE SCHOOL, SOUTH LAKE. THERE IS A LOT IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA AND AS YOU CAN SEE, SOUTH OF THE COMMUNITY CENTER, YOU HAVE THIS LARGE OPEN PLAZA. ONE OF THE THINGS I NOTICED ABOUT THE PLANS WERE THAT THE ENTRANCES. YOU HAVE ONE MAJOR ENTRANCE ON THE NORTH SIDE WHICH LEADS TO THE MAIN PARKING AREA AND YOU HAVE MAJOR ENTRANCE TO THE SOUTHSIDE THAT LEADS TO THE PLAZA AREA. BOTH WERE INTENDED TO BE OPEN AT ALL TIMES AND I LOOKED AT THE ORIENTATION AT THE FRONT DESK. THE FRONT DESK IS ONLY ORIENTED NORTH. THERE ARE NO EYES FROM THAT DESK ON THE SOUTH ENTRANCE. THE RECOMMENDATION THAT I MADE WAS TO REORIENT THAT DESK 90 DEGREES SO THERE WOULD BE NATURAL EYES ON BOTH THE NORTH ENTRANCE AND THE SOUTH ENTRANCE. THAT WAS NOT DONE. BUFFER STATUS COMMUNITY CENTER OPENED, THERE WAS A FIGHT DISTURBANCE THAT DEVELOPED IN THE FIGHT MADE ITS WAY NORTH THROUGH THAT SOUTH ENTRANCE, THROUGH THE COMMUNITY CENTER, AT THE NORTH ENTRANCE AND INTO THE MAIN PARKING LOT. SINCE THEN, THEY HAVE HAD TO CLOSE THAT DOOR ON THE SOUTH PLAZA AND BASICALLY KEEP IT CLOSED, KEEP IT LOCKED. WHEN I WAS AT THE COMMUNITY CENTER THIS PAST WEEKEND, AGAIN, THERE ARE SIGNS ON THE DOOR THAT DIRECT PEOPLE TO GO AROUND TO THE NORTH SIDE OF THE BUILDING BECAUSE THAT DOOR GOT USED. ONE OF THE THINGS I ASKED ABOUT WAS CAMERAS. CAN YOU PUT A CAMERA ON THE DOOR? YES, THERE IS A CAMERA ON THE DOOR. ALTHOUGH, WHERE YOU SEE WHERE THE CAMERA IS THAT LOOK SAD THAT DOOR IS PRETTY MUCH THE CENTER OF A HALLWAY BY BOTH CLASSROOMS BETWEEN THE POOL AND THE CLASSROOMS OVER ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE. THEY ARE NOT VERY GOOD VISIBILITY. THERE IS A CAMERA THAT LOOKS AT THE PLAZA BUT IT DOES NOT LOOK ON THE STORE. THE CAMERAS CAN ONLY BE VIEWED FROM A UTILITY CLOSET ACROSS THE HALL ON THE MAIN DESK. I SAID MAKE SURE THE FOLKS AT THE MAIN DESK CAN DO IT. CURRENT CONFIGURATIONS ARE THE CAMERAS CAN ONLY BE VIEWED BY THE COMMUNITY CENTER'S DIRECTOR'S DESK. THAT WOULD BE A CHANGE THAT I WOULD MAKE IN TERMS OF POLICY IN TERMS OF CAMERA PLACEMENT. I WOULD RECOMMEND MORE BUT THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF RECOGNITION BEING MADE AT A POINT WHERE IT WAS TOO LATE TO IMPLEMENT THOSE CHANGES. THE WHOLE IDEA ABOUT CODIFICATION WITH THIS IS, THINK ABOUT THIS EARLY IN E DO WE DO IT AS OPPOSED TO HAVING A SERIES? ONE OF THE THINGS I LOOKED AT WAS, WHAT ARE OTHER CITIES, OTHER MUNICIPALITIES -- WHAT DO THEY HAVE IN TERMS OF CODE? I LOOKED AT THE EXAMPLE OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, WHICH PROBABLY HAS THE MOST ROBUST LANGUAGE IN THEIR CODES. ONE IS A STATEMENT THAT SAYS, YOU TAP AND SUPPORT A VELOCITY. IT IS A STATEMENT THAT WITH -- WAS PURPOSE. IT BASICALLY WAS SAYING THAT NOT ONLY DO WE SUPPORT THIS STUFF BUT WE WILL SUPPORT IT THROUGH ALL OF OUR PROCESSES. >> ANOTHER EXAMPLE IS THE OVERLAY DISTRICT. IT CALLS OUT WHICH ELEMENTS WILL BE INCORPORATED AND PRIMARILY WE ARE TALKING ABOUT NATURAL SURVEILLANCE, NATURAL ACCESS CONTROL AND TERRITORIAL REINFORCEMENT. AS WE WERE TALKING ABOUT EARLIER, THERE ARE THE FIVE OVERLAPPING STRATEGIES FOR THE PURPOSES OF CODIFICATION. NATURAL SURVEILLANCE, NATURAL ACCESS CONTROL AND TERRITORIAL REAPPOINTMENT ARE THE ONES THAT WE WANT TO FOCUS ON AND GET INCORPORATED INTO CODE. AN EXAMPLE FROM JUPITER, FLORIDA, WITH SECTION 2718 58, SUPPLEMENTAL DISTRICT REGULATIONS. IT SPELLS OUT THAT CPTED CENTERS SHALL BE INCORPORATED INTO ALL NEW DISTRICTS. THEY ARE PRIMARILY TALKING ABOUT SCHOOL DISTRICTS. AND, THEY LAY OUT SPECIFIC EXAMPLES REGARDING MURALS AND SCULPTURES AND ARTWORK. PUBLIC ART IS ANOTHER GOOD CPTED PRINCIPAL. ADDICTS RIDGES GRAFFITI, ESPECIALLY IF THE ARTWORK IS DONE BY A LOCAL ARTIST. THEY'VE GOT A MURAL THAT WILL BE ON THE STAIRWELL THAT WILL BE DONE BY A LOCAL ARTIST. IT IS GREAT. IT IS AN ACTIVITY GENERATOR. IT IS A LOCAL ART FOCAL POINT AS WELL. >> WHEN I LOOK AT THE CITY OF GRAND RAPIDS, THEY HAVE A CPTED ORDINANCE THAT THEY SPELL OUT WHAT IT IS AND WHAT THEY INTEND THE ORDINANCE TO DO. VIRGINIA CONNECTS SOMETHING THAT REQUIRES PLANS AND SPECIFICATIONS FOR AND MORE NEWLY REMODELED CONSTRUCTIONS. IT HAS TO BE REVIEWED BY SOMEBODY WHO HAS GOT EXPERTISE IN DESIGN. SOMETHING ELSE TO LOOK AT THAT. IS IT GOING TO BE SUBMITTING PLANS? THOSE PLANS WILL BE LOOKED AT BY SOMEBODY WHO HAS A CPTED BACKGROUND. >> NOW, WE ARE GETTING INTO MORE OF THE REQUIREMENTS? THE THICK? >> YES. >> WE'VE GOT OUR EXPERTS HERE. DO THESE OTHER MUNICIPALITIES -- ARE THEY GETTING IT RIGHT WITH TIMING? DO WE ALSO NEED TO BE INCLUDING INCENTIVES? I FEEL THE REAL -- I MEAN, THIS IS REAL, BECAUSE I SEE IT ALL THE TIME. ANY ADDITIONAL REVIEW OR CONVERSATIONS CAN REALLY CREATE A BACKLOG. IF WE HAD 802,000 COUNCILMEMBER MARK SOLOMON'S, WE COULD HAVE ALL OF THE TIME IN THE WORLD. I GET A LITTLE WORRIED ABOUT THE BOTTLENECKS. JUST AS WE ARE GOING THROUGH THESE DIFFERENT ORDINANCES, HELPING ME BETTER UNDERSTAND WHERE DID THEY GET IT RIGHT? WHERE DID THAT CREATE AN UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCE AND THEN THE SECONDARY QUESTION OF WHETHER WE ARE GOING TO REQUIRE CONSULTATION OR MEETING CERTAIN CODES , WHAT IS NEEDED FROM THERE? IS IT JUST PURE HEIGHT? IS IT NOTHING? IS IT FOR AREA RATIO? HELP ME UNDERSTAND HOW I CAN BE HELPFUL. >> I WOULD THINK THAT -- FOR US, AS MULTIFAMILY, PROVIDING THE LIST BUT NOT NECESSARILY INCLUDING IT AS AN ACTUAL ELEMENT OF THE REVIEW PROCESS, THAT IS A STARTING POINT. EVEN A CHECK THAT YOU HAVE REVIEWED THE CHECKLIST, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO THAT IT IS OUT THERE. IT IS IN THE HANDS OF MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPERS. OR SOMETHING LIKE SCHOOL, YOU NEED TO GO TO A THERAPIST OR PROJECTS THAT ARE RISKING LOSING FUNDING. MAYBE IT IS A DIFFERENT PROCESS. >> THAT IS REALLY HELPFUL. I JUST THINK OF THE BALLBRARY. TH ONTO IT AND THE STRANGE THING, THEY PUT A GLASS WALL NEXT TO THE DOOR. IT IS SO BAD THAT YOU CAN FIND THE DOOR. BEYOND ALL OF THE OTHER PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUES THAT IT CREATES, THEY LITERALLY HAD TO PUT A SANDWICH BOARD OUT NOW BECAUSE I WAS HAVING TO DIRECT PEOPLE FROM MY FISHBOWL OFFICE. I THINK YOUR INCLUSION OF PUBLICLY FUNDED PROJECTS, OR ESPECIALLY CITY BUILDING FOR SCHOOLS, THAT IS HELPFUL. THANK YOU. >> THIS IS WHERE WE GET INTO SOME OF THE THINGS WHERE WE HAVE SEEN SOME EXAMPLES FROM OTHER MUNICIPALITIES AND I WANT TO SHOW A COUPLE OF EXAMPLES THAT ARE RIGHT HERE. THERE ARE REPORTING JURISDICTIONS IN WASHINGTON STATE THAT HAVE CPTED SOMEWHERE IN CODE . HERE ARE SOME EXAMPLES FROM CITY OF SEATAC . AGAIN, LOOKING AT THE PURPOSE OF 17. IT CREATES STANDARDS THAT ADDRESS CPTED AND THAT SHOULD APPLY TO ALL LAND-USE CATEGORIES. THEY ARE SAYING THIS TIME I WILL SHOW IT ONLY APPLIED INCLUDING BUILDINGS WITH HEIGHT IMPROVEMENTS. WALLACE SUGGESTS THAT SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL SHOULD -- A LOT OF WHAT I'VE LOOKED AT IN TERMS OF WHAT -- IT IS CHAPTER 19, ADOPTING GUIDELINES IN ACCORDANCE WITH LAND-USE POLICIES, IN ACCORDANCE WITH CRIME PREVENTION THROUGH ENVIRONMENTAL GUIDELINES. HERE IS WHERE WE ARE LOOKING AT GUIDELINES. WE ARE LOOKING AT IMPLEMENTING SOME TYPE OF -- HERE'S WHAT THEY ARE LOOKING AT REQUIRING. JUST AS I MENTIONED, THAT OWNERSHIP, THAT REALLY IS ABOUT THAT TERRITORIALITY. TERRITORIALITY IS A SENSE OF OWNERSHIP. IT GOES ON TO HIGHLIGHT WHERE IT WILL BE USED, INCORPORATING DESIGN FEATURES AND WHY? WHAT IS THE RATIONALE FOR INCORPORATING THESE ELEMENTS INTO THE DESIGN OF THE BUILDING? BECAUSE YOU CAN READ, I WON'T READ THROUGH EVERY LINE. >> LORI, YOU CAN SPEAK TO THIS MORE. WHEN WE LOOK AT THESE THINGS, THEY ARE ALL -- WHEN YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT BEING ENCOURAGED TO OR HAVING IT, GOING THROUGH A CHECKLIST, BEING GIVEN A CHECKLIST AT THE BEGINNING OF IT AND THE EXPECTATION THAT ONE WILL HAVE BROUGHT ABOUT WHAT THEY CAN DO WITHIN THAT CHECKLIST IS VERY -- A GREAT START. WHAT WE HAVE FOUND IS IF YOU HAVE THINGS THAT REQUIRE SOMEBODY TO GO OVER THEM OR IF YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE -- IF YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE REVIEWS OF WHETHER OR NOT YOU HAVE IMPLEMENTED THINGS, IT IS VERY, VERY COSTLY BECAUSE YOU HAVE SUCH MASSIVE TIME LAGS HERE. YOU WOULD HAVE TO HAVE SOME KIND OF A RAPID IMPLEMENTATION THAT WOULD NOT TAKE US AS BACKWARDS INTO MAKING THE PROJECT SO EXPENSIVE. >> DID YOU HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION BEFORE? >> CIRCLING BACK, THE DESIGN REVIEW GUIDELINES, THAT DOES GIVE THE DIRECTOR THE AUTHORITY TO APPROVE, MODIFY, OR DESIGN PROPOSALS IN THIS PROCESS? THE DIRECTOR NOW HAS THE ABILITY TO APPROVE, MODIFY, OR DENY A PROJECT, HAVING THE REQUIREMENTS BE IN ANOTHER AREA WHERE THE DIRECTOR CAN EXERCISE THAT HAMMER. WHAT I LIKE TO EMPHASIZE IS THE INCENTIVE AS HAS BEEN MENTIONED. THAT IS SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN PUT TOGETHER. THEY BASICALLY SAY IF THEY HAVE PLANS TO SUBMIT, SUBMIT IT WITH THE PLANS. THEY HAVE PROVIDED WRITTEN GUIDANCE AS THE KIND OF THING THEY ARE LOOKING OR. THIS, I BELIEVE, IT LEADS TO THE COPY OF THE CHECKLIST. I HAVE DEVELOPED A DRAFT CHECKLIST FOR THE CITY OF SEATTLE THAT IS EXTREMELY COMPREHENSIVE. IT IS NOT -- BASICALLY IT IS A MASTER CHECKLIST. IT APPLIES TO A PARKING GARAGE, A SCHOOL, A CHURCH, OPEN PHASE. IS THIS YES? IS THIS SNOW? RATHER THAN HAVING SEVEN DIFFERENT CHECKLISTS, HAVING JUST ONE WEAR WHATEVER APPLIES, YOU FILL THAT PORTION OUT. WHAT I HAVE SEEN ANOTHER CITY IN AUBURN, THEY HAD A POINT SYSTEM WHERE IF YOU MEET CERTAIN CPTED GUIDELINES, AND FOR AUBURN TO ONLY APPLY FOR CANNABIS RETAILERS. IF THE PLAN MEETS THOSE PARTICULAR CPTED GUIDELINES, THEY GET POINTS ADDED FOR THEIR CONSIDERATION. FOR THE CITY OF BELLEVUE, CPTED REALLY ONLY APPLIES IN THEIR CODE TOWARD HOMELESS SHELTERS. DIFFERENT MUNICIPALITIES APPLIED IN DIFFERENT WAYS. IT IS A DATABASE I CAN ACCESS THE SHOWS WHICH JURISDICTIONS IN WHICH CITIES -- SEES ME, WHICH STATES, ACTUALLY HAVE CPTED IN CODE AND CAN POINT YOU DIRECTLY TO THAT CODE. WE DO HAVE THE RESOURCES WE CAN LOOK AT AND DRAW FROM. WE ARE NOT RE-CREATING THE WHEEL. WE ARE LOOKING AT THINGS THAT ARE ALREADY IN THE SYSTEM LIKE SEATAC, LIKE FEDERAL WAY, LIKE LOOKING THAT AS MODELS ITSELF FOR OUR OWN. HERE IS WHERE I AM LOOKING AT. ONE PROPOSED LIST, SIMILAR TO TAMPA THAT EXPRESSES 4%. IT IS THE WAY OF REDUCING CRIME. THAT CONTINUES LANGUAGE SIMILAR TO ANY PLANS THAT WILL BE REVIEWED. SOMEBODY WHO HAS A CPTED LENS HAS TO BE LOOKING AT THAT. NOW, YOU MAY BE THINKING THAT THERE ARE NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE OUT THERE WHO HAVE THESE EXPERTISE AND I WOULD SAY THAT THERE ARE. THERE ARE A LOT TO HAVE THESE AS MENTIONED. MY COLLEAGUES FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAVE FOLKS IN THE PARKS DEPARTMENT. I HAVE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO SOME TRAINING WORK IN THE WASHINGTON DEPARTMENT OF CODE ENFORCEMENT AND A LOT OF THEM ARE IN CONSTRUCTION AND INSPECTION. THEY ARE AWARE OF CPTED AND GETTING FOLKS TRAINED UP AND HAVING SOMEBODY WITH THAT LENS LOOK AT THIS ALONG WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND EVERY OTHER DEPARTMENT, THAT IS BASICALLY WHAT WE ARE SAYING. THEY ARE GOING TO REVIEW IT ANYWAY, LET'S JUST MAKE SURE SOMEBODY WITH A CPTED LENS IS LOOKING AT IT AS WELL. >> ALSO, LOOKING AT GUIDELINES FOR WHAT WE HAVE IN FEDERAL WAY THAT PROVIDES THAT GUIDANCE, WHAT IS THAT CHECKLIST? IF YOU WANT ME TO BE CONSIDERING THIS, WHAT IS THE STUFF YOU WANT ME TO CONSIDER? THAT IS WORTH COMING UP WITH THE CHECKLIST. MAKE IT EASY. DON'T MAKE IT GUESSWORK. WHEN WE LOOK AT PLANS FOR DEVELOPERS OR NITZE-STAGEN, WHEN I ASK A QUESTION, THEY SAY, WE DID NOT THINK ABOUT THAT . THAT IS WHY SOME OF THE QUESTIONS ARE WORDED BECAUSE I WANT THEM TO START THINKING ABOUT THAT, AS HEAD OF TIME. ONE QUESTION THAT HAS COME UP FOR ME WAS, FIRST RESPONDER ACCESS INTO BUILDINGS THAT ARE LOCKED OUT. NOW, FIRE HAS A LOCKBOX. THEY CAN GET INTO ANY BUILDING. POLICE DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO THE FIRE LOCKBOX. I HAVE HEARD FROM SO MANY OFFICERS WHO HAVE SAID, I TRIED FOR A RESPONSE TO THIS ADDRESS BUT I COULD NOT GET INTO THE BUILDING. EVEN IF I COULD GET INTO THE BUILDING -- IT IS FATHER ACCESS ONLY. I COULD NOT GET TO THE FLOOR. I COULD NOT GET IN THE ELEVATOR. I COULDN'T GET INTO THE STAIRWELL. THEY ARE RESPONDING TO A HOSTILE PERSON WITH AN AX IN THE STAIRWELL AND THEY CAN GET TO THEM. THEY ARE RESPONDING TO A DOMESTIC VIOLENCE SITUATION ON THE FOURTH FLOOR AND THEY CAN GET THERE WITHOUT THE PERSON LETTING THEM UP. ABB NOT BREATHING, AGAIN, OFFICERS RESPONDING BUT THE PEOPLE WHO CALLED OR NOT ABLE TO LET THEM IN BECAUSE THEY ARE DEALING WITH THE CRISIS IN THAT UNIT. AGAIN, OFFICERS CANNOT GET IN THE BUILDING. THEY CANNOT GET UP THE ELEVATORS AND THEY CANNOT GET TO THE FLOOR WHERE NEEDED. WHAT WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DO IS WORK WITH THESE BUILDINGS TO PROVIDE LAW ENFORCEMENT SPECIFIC ACCESS, USUALLY IN THE FORM OF BOB'S -- FOBS. THEY WILL DO A RECESSED BOX THAT HAS A KEYCODE , MULTIPLE FOBS IN THAT BOX SO THAT THE INITIAL RESPONDING OFFICER CAN GET A FOB , GAIN UNIVERSAL ACCESS TO THAT BUILDING, GET INTO THE STAIRWELL, ELEVATORS, GO TO WHATEVER FLOOR THEY NEED AND IF THEY NEED BACKUP, THEY CAN CALL FOR ANOTHER OFFICER AND THAT OFFICER CAN, AND YOU GIVE THEM THAT SAME CODE BECAUSE THE CODE WOULD BE MARRIED TO THAT ADDRESS IN THE COMPUTER AIDED DISPATCH SYSTEM. IF OFFICER A NEEDS BACKUP, OFFICER B CAN SHOW UP, GET A CAR, GET A FOB TO RESPOND TO BACK THAT OFFICER WITHOUT HAVING THAT INITIAL OFFICER DISENGAGE. WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DO THAT WITH A NUMBER OF BUILDINGS IN D 2 AND AGAIN, SOMETHING THAT WE WANT THESE BUILDINGS TO CONSIDER, ESPECIALLY THE MULTIFAMILY BUILDINGS WHERE YOUR FOB WILL ONLY GET YOU INTO THE COMMON AND TO YOUR FLOOR, PERIOD. WE HAVE A NUMBER OF BUILDINGS LIKE THAT IN THE SOUTHEND. WE HAVE HAD TO WORK CLOSELY WITH THOSE BUILDINGS TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN OFFICERS ARE RESPONDING TO SOMETHING AND WE ARE TALKING ABOUT LIFE SAFETY STUFF, DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, A HOMELESS PERSON, THEY CAN GAIN ACCESS TO A BUILDING AND GET TO WHERE THEY NEED TO GO TO RENDER THAN AID. SO, THAT WAS A LOT. ARE THERE QUESTIONS? AND I AM SURE THERE ARE. >> WHERE DID YOU FIND THAT PHOTO? >> I HAVE BEEN ASKING THAT A LOT. I GUESS I WILL JUST KEEP TALKING. IT REALLY IS A QUESTION OF HOW, WHEN DO WE REQUIRE OR INCENTIVIZE -- I JUST THINK COUNCILMEMBER SOLOMON, HERE WE ARE HAVING A PRIVATE MEETING IN PUBLIC, RIGHT? WHAT ARE THE NEXT STEPS? DO WE CREATE A PILOT? DO WE CREATE REQUIREMENTS FOR PUBLICLY OWNED BUILDINGS LIKE WHEN YOU COMMUNITY CENTER ? GRE LAKE COMMUNITY CENTER AND RAINIER BEACH WERE SUPPOSED TO BE BUILT AT THE SAME TIME. RAINIER BEACH WENT INTO PHASE ONE BECAUSE THERE WAS NOT ENOUGH SPACE FOR BOTH OF THEM. NOW, GREEN LAKE IS UP AND LUCKILY WE ARE NOT AT 30% DESIGN BUT I AM SUDDENLY REALIZING THAT IF I AM NOT THERE TO REQUIRE IT, ARE THEY GOING TO GO THROUGH A CHECKLIST AND THEN ARE WE GOING TO END UP CLOSING ONE OF THE DOORS FOREVER? I JUST HAD TO THINK ABOUT THE FUNCTIONAL NEXT STEPS FOR HERE . HOW DO WE ENSURE IT IS NOT JUST A PRESENTATION ON JUNE 18, 2025. HOW ARE WE MAKING LASTING IMPRINTS? >> THE WAY I LOOK AT THIS IS IF WE DO NOTHING ELSE, LET'S START WITH THE STUFF THE CITY OWNS, WHETHER IT IS A COMMUNITY CENTER OR A LIBRARY. THERE ARE SO MANY CPTED RECOMMENDATIONS WE HAVE THAT HAVE BEEN MADE MULTIPLE TIMES THAT HAVE NOT BEEN FOLLOWED THROUGH ON. IF WE HAD, WE WOULD HELP ADDRESS THE CRIME GOING ON. WHEN I LOOK AT JEFFERSON PARK, I HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW THOSE PLANS FOR GRAVEL THAT WAS BROKEN. I WAS ABLE TO SAY LET'S LOOK AT THE PLAY AREA THIS WAY SO THAT OFFICERS DRIVING BY CAN SEE INTO IT. SO, SOMETHING AS SIMPLE AS THAT. >> TO ME, WHAT HAS TO BE DONE EARLY IN THE DESIGN PHASE IS WHEN THERE IS STILL TIME TO MAKE THOSE CHANGES. MY GUT SAYS -- I AM JUST SPEAKING 60%. MAYBE THERE IS STILL TIME TO DO SOMETHING BUT AT THAT POINT, IT WILL BE -- IF WE ARE TRYING TO LOOK AT IT AT THE CONTACT PHASE, LIKE, WE WANT TO DO X, GREAT. HERE IS A CHECKLIST FOR YOU. EARLIER ON IN THE PROCESS THE BETTER AND WE CAN FIGURE OUT A WAY TO INCENTIVIZE THIS. DO WE OFFER INCREASED -- DO WE AWARD POINTS? HERE IS THE THING THAT IS REALLY -- IN SOME WAYS VERY FRUSTRATING FOR ME BECAUSE I CAN GO TO ANY COMPANY. I CAN GO TO LISA OR WHOEVER AND SAY HERE IS MY RECOMMENDATION. THEY DON'T HAVE TO DO IT. DO WE GET IT TO THE POINT WHERE WE ARE SAYING, YOU WILL? THAT IS WHERE THEY ARE SAYING WE DON'T WANT THAT . THIS IS WHERE WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IS THE RIGHT LANGUAGE TO USE. PLEASE CONSIDER AS OPPOSED TO YOU WILL. WE CAN BE IN OTHER JURISDICTIONS. CPTED WILL BE INCORPORATED . IT DOESN'T SAY WHAT THE OR ELSE IS . THEN YOU HAVE THE OTHER JURISDICTIONS WHERE IT IS JUST HIGHLY ENCOURAGED OR THE OTHER JURISDICTIONS WHERE THEY CONSIDER THESE THINGS AND WHAT I AM LOOKING AT FOR US IS ADOPTING PHILOSOPHIES , GIVE SOMETHING TO THOSE DEVELOPERS THAT THEY CAN GO BY TO LOOK AT AND THEN HAVE SOMEBODY THAT HAS HAD THE KIND OF TRAINING THAT I DO TO LOOK AT THE STUFF. AT THE SAME TIME, EVERYONE ELSE IS PUTTING THEIR NOSE IN THE FAN AND IT BECOMES THE CAPACITY TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE ENOUGH TRAINED PERSONNEL IN THE CITY SYSTEM TO MAKE IT HAPPEN, TO MAKE THAT PROCESS SEAMLESS, THAT IS EASY ENOUGH TO DO. IT IS EASY ENOUGH TO GET A GOOD AMOUNT OF PEOPLE TRAINED UP. >> I AM ALMOST SEEING THE REQUIREMENT THAT SOMEBODY RECEIVES THE CHECKLIST LIKE YOU WERE SAYING. COULD IT BE A CHECKED BOX ON THE APPLICATION, RECEIVED AND REVIEWED? THAT BEING THE FIRST ROUND IN THE PILOT TO THEN THE SECOND STEP BEING INCENTIVE FOR MEETING A CERTAIN NUMBER OF THE REQUIREMENTS AND THOSE INCENTIVES CAN BE FILL IN THE BLANK? >> YOU CAN ALSO COME BACK TO US LATER. WE JUST HAPPEN TO BE HERE TODAY. >> WHAT YOU MENTIONED IS EXACTLY IT, DEPENDING ON WHERE YOU ARE IN THE CITY. ADDITIONAL HEIGHT. THAT WOULD NEED TO BE SORTED OUT. ABSOLUTELY. THAT KIND OF COULD HAVE SOME REAL VALUE. >> THE THIRD PIECE BEING THE REQUIREMENT FOR PUBLICLY OWNED BUILDINGS. I WOULD HESITATE ONLY BECAUSE AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECTS ARE ESSENTIALLY THE ONLY PUBLICLY FUNDED PROJECT AND I DON'T WANT TO CREATE THE SAME ROADBLOCK BUT AT THE SAME TIME, THEY NEED TO HAVE A HIGHER THRESHOLD OF ENGAGEMENT SO MAYBE THE PUBLICLY FUNDED ONE IS WHERE WE DIG IN A LITTLE BIT MORE OF PUBLICLY OWNED BUILDINGS. WE ADD A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT TIERS SO WE CAN TEST THE PILOT OUT SO WE ARE MINIMIZING THE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES. FOR ANYONE WATCHING ON THE SEATTLE CHANNEL, WE ARE LITERALLY JUST TALKING THIS OUT SO DON'T HOLD ANY OF US TO ANY OF THIS. >> I WOULD ALSO FOLLOW SEATAC AND NOT REQUIRE THIS FOR SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENCES. I WOULD EXEMPT -- PRETTY MUCH WE WOULD EXEMPT ANYTHING UNDER 20 UNITS, TO REQUIRE THAT THEY GO THROUGH THIS KIND OF CHECKLIST SETTING. >> ALL RIGHT. >> I WILL CHIME IN OVER HERE. POLICIES HAVE BEEN A LITTLE QUIET ON THIS BECAUSE I AM TRYING TO DIGEST MYSELF. THANK YOU FOR WALKING US THROUGH THIS AND TRYING TO IN REAL TIME UNDERSTAND A LITTLE MORE OF THIS APPROACH AND EXECUTION YOU ARE BRINGING TO THIS. I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. ONE BECAUSE YOU BROUGHT UP THIS AND WHY YOU WOULD WANT TO EXEMPT SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES FROM THIS? I JUST WANT TO BETTER UNDERSTAND. >> WHY WOULD I EXEMPT SINGLE-FAMILY? AS THE SEATAC ORDINANCE THAT SAYS YOU SHOULD APPLY THESE PRINCIPLES WHEN YOU ARE LOOKING AT SINGLE-FAMILY, WE ARE JUST NOT GOING TO REQUIRE IT. WHAT I AM THINKING ABOUT IS, WHAT IS A CITY BUILT? WHAT DOES THE CITY OWN? THEN WE TALK ABOUT MULTI FAMILY, WORKFORCE HOUSING WHERE WE HAVE HAD SAFETY CONCERNS BECAUSE OF THE WAY THAT THINGS HAVE BEEN DONE. WE WANT YOU TO CONSIDER THESE THINGS. DUPLEX, TRIPLEX, NOT NECESSARILY GOING TO HAVE THE SAME KIND OF SECURITY. YES, I DO WANT YOU TO HAVE GOOD, NATURAL VISIBILITY OF YOUR WINDOW. I DO WANT YOU TO HAVE GOOD ACCESS CONTROL. I DO WANT THE PROPERTY WELL MAINTAINED AND WELL IDENTIFIED BUT FOR OUR PURPOSES, DO I WANT TO REQUIRE THAT AN INDIVIDUAL HOMEOWNER OR SOMEONE WHO IS DOING A DUPLEX OR A COUPLE OF CALL -- COTTAGES, DO YOU WANT TO REQUIRE THAT THEY FOLLOW THESE? NOT NECESSARILY. I WANT TO ENCOURAGE THEM TO? ABSOLUTELY. >> THANK YOU FOR BREAKING THAT DOWN FOR ME. I AM WONDERING -- SORRY. I AM LOSING MY VOICE. SORRY. THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS. THANK YOU FOR NITZE-STAGEN FOR BEING HERE TODAY. I REALLY APPRECIATE THE EXPERTISE YOU ARE BRINGING TO THE TABLE. I AM ALSO TRYING TO UNDERSTAND, WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT PEER DEVELOPMENT ORGANIZATIONS , DO YOU HAVE A SENSE OF THEIR LEVEL OF FAMILIARITY WITH THIS AS A CONCEPT OR THE WORK THAT THEY HAVE DONE INCORPORATING CPTED PRINCIPLES? >> I HONESTLY -- IT IS SOMETHING WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT QUITE A BIT. WE HAVE HAD ALL OF OUR DESIGN TEAM MEET WITH COUNCILMEMBER SOLOMON FOR OUR LAST FOUR OR FIVE PROJECTS . IT IS CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT WE TALK ABOUT IN OUR CIRCLE BUT I CAN'T SPEAK TO WHETHER OTHER SIMILAR DEVELOPMENT COMPANIES ARE INCORPORATING THIS PROCESS. >> I DON'T HEAR IT TALKED ABOUT SO I THINK THAT WE ARE SIMPLY GETTING IT SO IT IS TALKED ABOUT. THAT IS A BIG STEP FORWARD IN THINKING THAT WAY. AGAIN, STARTING WITH SOMETHING AS SIMPLE AS A CHECKLIST. IT IS NOT AN OBVIOUS WAY OF THINKING FOR PEOPLE. IT MAKES INCREDIBLY GREAT SENSE TO START THINKING ABOUT IT. >> AND IT IS VERY MANAGEABLE ONCE YOU SIT DOWN AND GO THROUGH THIS LIST. IT IS NOT CONFUSING IN ANY WAY BUT TO LISA'S POINT, IT IS JUST MAYBE NOT OBVIOUS. JUST HAVING IT OUT THERE AND TALKED ABOUT. >> THAT IS INCREDIBLY HELPFUL. DEFINITELY FEEDBACK RECEIVED. GETTING IT OUT THERE. >> SORRY, COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS. I AM WONDERING -- THIS MIGHT BE A QUESTION AS WE MOVE ALONG IN THE PROCESS, QUESTION FOR CENTRAL STAFF. I AM CURIOUS ABOUT THE LEVEL OF EXPERTISE WE HAVE CURRENTLY WITHIN STC I ON THIS MATTER. I AM NOT A THAT IS A QUESTION YOU CAN ANSWER, COUNCIL MEMBER SOLOMON BUT I AM CURIOUS WHAT KIND OF CITY STAFF EXPERTISE WE HAVE IN THIS AREA. >> THE EXACT MEMBERS OF HOW MANY STAFF ARE CPTED AWARE ? QUITE A FEW. CERTIFIED? PROBABLY VERY FEW. I WOULD SAY THAT YOUR BIGGEST COHORT OF CPTED CERTIFIED PRACTITIONERS IS WITHIN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WITH YOUR CRIME PREVENTION COORDINATORS. SOME OF THE COMMUNITY SERVICE OFFICERS HAVE BEEN TRAINED IN CRIME PREVENTION AND ENVIRONMENTAL DESIGN THE CLASS I DID IN TUMWATER A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO HAD A COUPLE MEMBERS OF THE DEPARTMENT WHO CAME AND GOT THEIR CERTIFICATIONS THERE AND I KNOW OTHER PARK STAFF THAT ARE CERTIFIED AS WELL. AGAIN, GETTING FOLKS TRAINED UP, CERTIFIED IS ACTUALLY PRETTY EASY PROCESS AND NOT THAT EXPENSIVE, ESPECIALLY WHEN I LOOK AT THE DIFFERENT OPTIONS THROUGH THE NATIONAL INSTITUTE OF CRIME PREVENTION WITH THE AMERICAN CRIME PREVENTION INSTITUTE OR EVEN A STATE CRIME PREVENTION. ALL OF THOSE OFFER CPTED CERTIFICATION PROBLEMS THIS LAST QUESTION IS A MORE HOLISTIC QUESTION. ON PROJECTS LOOKING AT WAYS TO IMPROVE SAFETY THROUGH ENVIRONMENTAL DESIGN. I AM WONDERING WHAT YOU THINK IS THE MOST MISUNDERSTOOD ELEMENT ABOUT THIS BODY OF WORK. >> I THINK THAT YOU WOULD NEED TO DO -- LIKE, MAKE SOME GRAND CHANGES. INSTEAD, IT IS MORE , KIND OF, MICRO. LIKE, IT -- YOU KNOW, YOU WILL HAVE YOUR LIGHTING PLAN, BUT HAVE YOU THOUGHT ABOUT THE NEXT STEP OF WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE IN 10 YEARS WHEN YOUR VEGETATION HAS GROWN? THAT IS JUST ONE LITTLE NOTCH FURTHER. YOU KNOW, YOU OBVIOUSLY HAVE LOCKS ON YOUR DOOR AND THE ACCESS CONTROL SYSTEM IN YOUR BUILDING, BUT HAVE YOU ACCESS CONTROLLED, YOU KNOW, THE -- LIKE, THE VESTIBULE DOORS? THE STAIRWELL DOORS? IT IS REALLY THINKING ONE STEP FURTHER. IT IS NOT A MAJOR REDESIGN. >> SOMETHING AS SIMPLE AS THINKING ABOUT WHAT THE GARAGE DOOR , WITH THE PROJECT WE WERE LOOKING AT, I WANT TO KNOW HOW LONG IT TAKES TO OPEN, HOW LONG IT TAKES TO CLOSE, AND THE LAG TIME. I WANT TO PREVENT SOMEBODY FROM EITHER TAILGATING ON FOOT OR IN A VEHICLE BEHIND SOMEBODY WHO IS JUST COMING IN. THERE IS A BUILDING I REVIEWED JUST NORTH OF UNIVERSITY BRIDGE WHERE THE OPENING TIME OF THAT DART WAS, LIKE, 1.3 SECONDS. THAT IS ALL IT TOOK FOR IT TO OPEN. IT STAYED OPEN LONG ENOUGH FOR A CAR TO PASS ENCLOSED IN 1.3 SECONDS, AS OPPOSED TO THE CITY HALL GARAGE, WHICH THE DOOR TAKES, I DON'T KNOW, TWO OR THREE HOURS TO OPEN. I MEAN, IT JUST CHUGS ALONG. FAR TOO LONG OF AN OPENING SPEED AND FAR TOO LONG OF AN OPENING TIME. I WOULD ACTUALLY LOOK AT REDUCING THE TIME THAT DOOR STAYS OPEN. REDUCING THE AMOUNT OF TIME IT TAKES FOR THE DOOR TO ACTUALLY OPEN AND CLOSE TO PREVENT THOSE PEOPLE WHO HAVE ILL INTENT , USUALLY BREAKING INTO SOMEBODY'S CAR, FROM FALLING IN BEHIND SOMEBODY. I HAVE SEEN THAT HAPPEN IN THE JACKSON PLACE NEIGHBORHOOD AND NEIGHBORHOOD. PEOPLE TAILGATING BEHIND SOMEONE PULLING INTO THEIR CONDO. >> WE ACTUALLY JUST INSTALLED A GARAGE DOOR IN THE 900 RAINIER PROJECT THAT IS INCREDIBLY FAST AS A RESULT OF OUR CONVERSATIONS. THE ADDITIONAL COST IS SO MINIMAL, BUT IT IS SO EFFECTIVE. THAT IS THE KIND OF THING. THESE ARE SMALL CHANGES, BUT THEY ARE REALLY IMPACTFUL. >> OTHER QUESTIONS? >> THOSE ARE ALL MY QUESTION. THANK YOU. REALLY HELPFUL. >> COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS? >> NO FURTHER QUESTIONS. >> COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA? OKAY. GREAT. WITH THAT, I WANT TO THANK MY COLLEAGUES -- COLLEAGUES , MY FRIENDS. I WANT TO THANK MY FRIEND FOR COMING AND BEING PART OF THIS PRESENTATION . SHARING YOUR EXPERTISE AND THOUGHTS AS THE FOLKS THAT ARE BUILDING HOUSES IN THIS COMMUNITY AS TO THE BENEFITS OF CODIFYING CPTED, WHAT SOME OF THE DRAWBACKS MAY BE. WE DEFINITELY APPRECIATE YOUR EXPERTISE IN THIS AREA. I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU TO CRAFTING SOMETHING THAT WE CAN GET ACROSS THE FINISH LINE. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ASKING US. IT'S A PLEASURE TO BE ABLE TO SHARE THIS KIND OF STUFF TO TRY AND HAVE THE BEST POSSIBLE DECISIONS MADE ABOUT YOUR NEXT STEPS HERE. BUT IF YOU WOULD LIKE ANY FURTHER , YOU CAN CERTAINLY ASK SOME OF OUR PEERS AS WELL TO REVIEW WHATEVER PILOTS YOU COME UP WITH OR THINGS LIKE THAT. >> YEAH, I THINK THEY CALL THAT STAKEHOLDERING. IS A NEW TERM I HAVE LEARNED. I TAKE THAT AS TALKING TO PEOPLE. SO YES, WOULD LOVE TO HAVE FURTHER CONVERSATIONS. >> HAPPY TO HELP. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, LAURIE. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE REACHED THE END OF THE AGENDA. ARE THERE ANY FURTHER ITEMS FOR BUSINESS OR DISCUSSION? OKAY. HEARING NONE, I WILL CALL THE JANUARY -- EXCUSE ME, JUNE 18 COMMITTEE AT THE LAND USE COMMITTEE TO AN END. THE NEXT MEETING WILL BE JULY 2 AT 2:00 P.M. AT 2:00 P.M. WITH NO FURTHER BUSINESS, IT IS 3:34 P.M., AND WE ARE ADJOURNED. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, EVERYONE.