. GOOD EVENING EVERYONE AND WELCOME. I WILL CALL THIS BLOOMING CITY BLOOMINGTON CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO ORDER TODAY THIS MONDAY JULY 15TH, 2024. THANKS TO EVERYBODY HERE IN THE CHAMBERS AND EVERYBODY WATCHING ON LINE COUNCIL. THANKS FOR BEING HERE STAFF AS WELL. WE WILL OUR MEETING AS WE ALWAYS DO IF YOU'RE ABLE IF YOU COULD PLEASE STAND REMOVE LIDS AND JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC WHICH WHICH ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY JUSTICE FOR ALL . ONCE AGAIN, THANKS EVERYBODY FOR BEING HERE THIS EVENING. OUR FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS THIS EVENING COUNCIL IS TO APPROVE OUR AGENDA AND OUR AGENDA INCLUDES THIS THIS EVENING UNDER INTRODUCTORY ITEMS UNDER 2.1 WE HAVE AN INTRODUCTION OF NEW EMPLOYEES AND I THINK WE'VE GOT A HANDFUL OF EMPLOYEES FROM A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS THAT WILL BE MEETING THIS EVENING. OUR CONSENT BUSINESS COUNCIL MEMBER RIVAS HAS CONSENTED THIS EVENING AND. THERE IS ONE ITEM THAT DIDN'T MAKE THE INITIAL PACKET BUT IT WAS ADDED IN IT WAS ITEM 3.13 AND THAT IS TO HAVE THE CITY AND THE COUNCIL TO APPROVE THE SIGN ON TO A LETTER TO THE PUBLIC UTILITIES COMMISSION REGARDING GAS UTILITY RESOURCE PLANNING AND. I THINK THERE IS INFORMATION AVAILABLE ONLINE AND I KNOW EMILY IS HERE IF ANYBODY HAS QUESTIONS ON THAT BUT THAT WOULD BE ADDED AS AN ITEM 3.13 UNDER OUR CONSENT AGENDA UNDER OUR HEARINGS, RESOLUTIONS AND ORDINANCES. WE HAVE TWO HEARINGS TONIGHT AND THEY'RE RELATED AND 4.1 IS A PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING AN ORDINANCE TO CONSTRUCT VETERANS MEMORIAL AND CIVIC PLAZA. AND ITEM 4.2 IS A RESOLUTION FOR A BUDGET ADJUSTMENT TO TRANSFER STRATEGIC PRIORITIES FUNDS TO THAT VETERANS MEMORIAL FUND PROJECT ITEM FIVE ORGANIZATIONAL BUSINESS WE'VE GOT A COUPLE OF STUDY ITEMS TONIGHT. ONE IS REGARDING A 5.1 IS REGARDING AN ADMINISTRATIVE STREAMLINE APPROVAL STUDY AND 5.2 IS REGARDING A STUDY ITEM REGARDING OUR SINGLE ROOM OCCUPANCY CO LIVING STANDARDS WE WRAP UP OUR MEETING AS WE ALWAYS DO WITH OUR CITY COUNCIL AND ISSUE UPDATE COUNSEL ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT IF NOT I WOULD MOVE APPROVAL OF AGENDA AS STATED INCLUDING AS I MENTIONED THAT ITEM 3.13 WHICH HAS BEEN AT IT SECOND MOTION AND A SECOND TO ACCEPT AN AGENDA THIS EVENING NO FURTHER COUNCIL ON THIS ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I I OPPOSED MOTION SEVEN ZERO THANK YOU MUCH WE HAVE AN AGENDA AND AS I SAID WE HAVE OUR FIRST ITEM IS OUR INTRODUCTION OF NEW EMPLOYEES AND WE'VE GOT TWO DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS WHO WANT US TO GO MELISSA OR AMY AMY GETS TO GO FIRST COME ON UP AMY CHENEY OUR I.T GURU HERE IN THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON. WELCOME. GOOD EVENING. GOOD ENING AND GOOD EVENING, MAYOR MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL THIS EVENING I'M PLEASED TO INTRODUCE ABDI AHMED ABDI STARTED WITH THE INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY DEPARTMENT ON FEBRUARY 12TH OF THIS YEAR AND HE IS A NETWORK ADMINISTRATOR . HE WORKS WITH OUR CURRENT NETWORK INFRASTRUCTURE AND ASSISTS IN EVALUATING TECHNOLOGIES. HE HELPS WITH DESIGN CONFIGURATION AND UPGRADES OF EQUIPMENT AND SYSTEMS. IN THE FEW MONTHS THAT HE'S BEEN HE HAS HELPED IDENTIFY AND CORRECT ISSUES AND HAS BEEN PART OF A TEAM TO DEVELOP A MORE STREAMLINED INVENTORY PROCESS. ABDI IS A GRADUATE OF METROPOLITAN STATE UNIVERSITY AND, IS CURRENTLY WORKING ON HIS MASTER'S DEGREE AT LOUISIANA STATE UNIVERSITY. HE HAS WORKED FOR HE LAST FOR CREATIVE PLANNING A MANAGED SERVICE PROVIDER HERE IN BLOOMINGTON LOBBY. IT'S NICE TO MEET YOU GUYS. I'VE BEEN IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS AND THIS IS ACTUALLY MY FIRST GOVERNMENT ROLE SO. I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO KIND OF BRINGING A FRESH EYES TO THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON AND SHARING EXPERIENCE AND IDEAS I HAVE. THANK YOU GUYS. WELL, THANK YOU. WE'RE VERY GLAD TO HAVE YOU. YOU'VE BEEN ON BOARD SINCE FEBRUARY, IS THAT CORRECT? YEAH, FOR ABOUT FIVE MONTHS. I'M SURPRISED WE. HAVEN'T SEEN YOU BEFOREHAND SO IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU. WELCOME ABOARD. NICE TO MEET YOU. THANKS FOR BEING HERE. THANK YOU MUCH. THANK YOU. AND THIS MATTER SHINER CITY ATTORNEY HAS A COUPLE OF INTRODUCTIONS IN OUR LEGAL STAFF. THANK YOU, MAYOR. I GIVE WITH THE CITY MANAGER'S PERMISSION. OUR FOLKS THE CHANCE TO APPEAR REMOTELY IF THAT WAS WORKED BETTER FOR THEIR LIVES AND IT DID SO I'M SURE THAT THEY HAVE JOINED AND THEY'LL BE PULLED UP ON THE SCREEN HERE. WE HAVE THREE INDIVIDUALS HERE TONIGHT FROM LEGAL UH MEGAN STARTED IN DECEMBER. SHE IS OUR CRIME VICTIM LIAISON. I KNOW THAT'S A POSITION THAT MANY OF YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH. MEGAN IS GRANT PARTIALLY GRANT FUNDED POSITION. WE GET MONEY FROM THE AND FEDERAL OFFICE OF JUSTICE PROGRAMS AND SHE IS VERY BUSY. SHE'S IN THE COURTROOM AS WELL AS IN THE OFFICE. SHE WORKS WITH VICTIMS TOO, ENSURE ACCESS TO THE JUSTICE PROCESS AND HELP THEM FILL OUT RESTITUTION FORMS AND EXPLAIN TO THEM THE PROCESS SO THAT THEY CAN PARTICIPATE IN THE LEVEL THAT'S MEANINGFUL TO THEM. AND PRIOR TO COMING TO THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON. MEGAN WORKED IN THE NONPROFIT WORLD AND ALSO AT SOME OF OUR OTHER LOCAL GOVERNMENT JURISDICTIONS. MEGAN YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING ? I'M JUST THAT I'M HAPPY TO BE HERE. THANKS. WELCOME MEGAN. GLAD TO HAVE YOU ON BOARD. ALL RIGHT, TERESA HAS BEEN HERE SINCE MARCH. SHE IS AN OFFICE ASSISTANT. SHE SITS AT OUR FRONT DESK A.K.A THE ROCK BECAUSE IT'S MADE OUT OF ROCKS AND AND THE MAIN PART OF HER JOB DUTIES ARE ENTERING CASES AND PREPARING THE CALENDAR FOR OUR PROSECUTORS. WE'RE COURT MOST DAYS OF THE WEEK AND SO SHE WORKS WITH ANOTHER PERSON IN HER OFFICE WHO IS PART TIME TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE TASKS ARE COMPLETED SO THAT OUR CASES GET OPENED IN A TIMELY MANNER AND THAT OUR PROSECUTORS ARE AVAILABLE EXCUSE ME PREPARED AND READY TO DO THEIR WORK IN COURTROOM . TERESA ALSO ANSWERS THE PHONE AND SO IF PEOPLE CALL LEGAL TERESA WILL LIKELY BE THE ONE THAT THEY WILL WORK WITH. TRICIA YOU WANT TO TACKLE AH WANT TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS OR ADD ANYTHING TO IT? NO, I'M JUST JUST LIKE MEGAN. I'M VERY HAPPY TO BE AND TO MEET EVERYBODY. I'M GLAD TO HAVE YOU. THANKS FOR JOINING US THIS EVENING. ALL RIGHT. AND JACKSON IS OUR NEWEST ADDITION. JACKSON IS A PROSECUTOR. HE JOINED US LAST MONTH AND PRIOR TO BEING A PROSECUTOR FOR THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON, HE CLERKED FOR HENNEPIN COUNTY AND FOR HENNEPIN COUNTY JUDGE AND HE DID HIS LEGAL TRAINING AT THE UNIVERSITY OF SAINT THOMAS LAW SCHOOL. JACKSON YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING JUST EXCITED TO BE HERE AND SERVE THIS COMMUNITY WELL. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE, JACKSON APPRECIATE IT. JACKSON IS THE RESULT OF THE BUDGET ADJUSTMENT THAT YOU ALL APPROVED TO AUTHORIZE THE CITY IN-HOUSE PROSECUTION TO HAVE AN ADDITIONAL PROSECUTOR. SO WE ARE AS I MENTIONED IN COURT MOST OF THE WEEK AND JACKSON IS. JACKSON, YOU WERE HANDLING YOUR FIRST CALENDAR PRETTY MUCH ON YOUR OWN, RIGHT? LAST WEEK. YEP. SO LAST THURSDAY I THINK WAS MY FIRST CALENDAR THURSDAY OR WEDNESDAY BEFORE THAT JUST OBSERVING AND HELPING OUT WITH DIFFERENT TASKS AND LEARNING AS FAST AS I CAN. YEAH. SO HE GOT TO JUMP INTO THE DEEP END. ALL RIGHT. SO THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO INTRODUCE EVERYONE AND I'M SUPER EXCITED TO HAVE A FULLY STAFFED LEGAL DEPARTMENT. THANK YOU, MY MANAGER SAID, ADDING MEGHAN TERESA JACKSON, THANKS SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE. THANKS FOR YOUR WORK WITH THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON. YOU'RE PART OF A GREAT STAFF AND LOOKING FORWARD TO YOUR SERVICE TO THE CITY AND TO THE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY. SO THANKS SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE. WELCOME COUNSEL. NEXT THING ON OUR AGENDA IS OUR CONSENT BUSINESS AND AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS HAS OUR CONSENT AGENDA THIS EVENING. ELLIS THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I'M WITH THE COUNCILMEMBER IS HOLDING 3.8. ARE THERE ANY OTHER HOLDS MEETING MEETINGS THEN I WILL MOVE TONIGHT'S CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS 3.1 TO 3.7 AND 3.9 TO 3.13 SECOND MOST OF MY COUNCILMEMBER OH EXCUSE ME BY RIVAS SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN TO ACCEPT TONIGHT'S CONSENT AGENDA AS STATED NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSE THE MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO. COUNCILMEMBER YOU WERE HOLDING I AM 3.8. YES. THANK YOU MAYOR. I JUST WANTED TO TAKE A MOMENT TO THANK ALL THE ELECTION JUDGES WHO HAVE VOLUNTEERED THEIR TIME TO SUPPORT THE ELECTIONS COMING UP HERE IN THE FALL IN LIGHT OF THE EVENTS THAT HAPPENED THIS WEEKEND, I DO WANT TO WISH FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP A QUICK RECOVERY BUT IT HIGHLIGHTS THE IMPORTANCE OF HAVING STRONG LOCAL ELECTIONS AND THESE PEOPLE. WE HAVE TWO PAGES THREE COLUMNS ON EACH PAGE FILLED WITH PEOPLE WHO HAVE VOLUNTEERED THEIR TIME AND ENERGY TO SUPPORT OUR ELECTIONS HERE. SO I JUST WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT AND THANK THEM FOR DOING THAT. ANYTHING ELSE I WILL MOVE TO APPROVE A RESOLUTION APPOINTING ELECTION JUDGES FOR THE PRIMARY ELECTION AND GENERAL ELECTIONS 2024 THANK MOST OF MY COUNCILMEMBER WAS SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER CARTER TO APPROVE THE RESOLUTION APPOINTING ELECTION JUDGES FOR THE PRIMARY AND GENERAL ELECTIONS FOR 2024 NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSE MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO COUNCIL MEMBER VETOES THANK YOU MUCH FOR THE CONSENT AGENDA THIS EVENING WE WILL MOVE ON TO OUR TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS OF THE EVENING NOW ITEM FOR OUR HEARINGS RESULTED AS WELL EXCUSE ME ONE ONE PUBLIC HEARING TWO ITEMS UNDER ITEM FOUR HEARINGS, RESOLUTIONS AND ORDINANCES. THE FIRST IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND IN 4.1 REGARDING AN ORDINANCE TO CONSTRUCT A VETERANS MEMORIAL ON CIVIC PLAZA. MR. FERRUCCI IS GOING TO LEAD US THROUGH THIS ONE. MR. BRUGUIERE THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. GOOD EVENING. JUST MOMENTS AGO ON THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEM 3.12, THE COUNCIL APPROVED AN AMENDED AND RESTATED MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING BLOOMINGTON REMEMBERS VETERANS THE ORGANIZATION THAT HAS BEEN WORKING ARDUOUSLY OVER THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR VETERANS ARE APPROPRIATELY HONORED WITHIN THE COMMUNITY OF BLOOMINGTON AND WITH WHOM WE'VE BEEN WORKING FOR AT LEAST OR SEVEN YEARS NOW ON THIS PROJECT. SO THE AMENDED AND RESTATED REFLECTED A COUPLE OF SIGNIFICANT STEPS. ONE WAS THE RELOCATION OF SITE AND I'LL TALK ABOUT THAT IN JUST A SECOND. AND THE SECOND WAS A CONTRIBUTION FROM THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON TOWARDS THE PROJECT IN THE AMOUNT OF $250,000. SO THE THE SITE IS BEING RELOCATED ON THE CIVIC PLAZA CAMPUS PROPERTY TO THE AREA EAST AT THE EAST END OF THE EAST PARKING LOT THAT TRIANGULAR AREA OUT THERE AND THE REASON THAT WE LOOK TO AN ALTERNATIVE SITE IS DURING THE CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENT DRAFTING PROCESS THE THE PRESENCE OF THE UTILITIES WE KNEW ABOUT THE UTILITIES WE DIDN'T REALIZE HOW MUCH OF A BARRIER IT WAS GOING TO BE TO CONSTRUCTING THE THE MEMORIAL ON THAT LOCATION THAT THE RISK TO THE FUTURE MEMORIAL AND TO THE CITY IF THERE EVER WILL BE A UTILITY BREAK WAS MORE THAN I THINK ANY OF US WANTED TO CONTEMPLATE BECAUSE WE CERTAINLY WANT THE MEMORIAL TO BE ONE THAT ENDURES. WE LOOKED AT ALTERNATIVE OPTIONS AND THE EAST PARKING LOT IS THE IS THE BEST OPTION TO KEEP IT ON THE CAMPUS AND STILL MAINTAIN THE VISION JUST HAS A LITTLE BIT OF A RE IMAGINATION THAT HAS TO HAPPEN BECAUSE OF CURVATURE OF THE SITE THERE. AND SO THERE'S THERE'S COST TO THE PROJECT THAT REQUIRES DESIGN TEAM AT LEO DAILY TO GO BACK AND REDRAFT THE PLANNING DOCUMENTS AND DO A NEW SITE SURVEY AND BECAUSE THAT WAS AN UNANTICIPATED EXPENSE FOR THE PROJECT, THE CITY FELT IT WAS APPROPRIATE FORWARD AND ALSO TO MAKE A CONTRIBUTION TOWARDS THE PROJECT ITSELF. AS A REMINDER OUR OUR FRIENDS AT BLOOMINGTON REMEMBERS VETERANS WERE SUCCESSFUL WORKING WITH THEIR LOCAL LEGISLATURE TO GET $350,000 IN LAST YEAR'S CAPITAL BONDING BILL FOR THE PROJECT THE CONTRIBUTION THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS EVENING FROM THE CITY IS $250,000 AND THEN THEY'RE RAISING ADDITIONAL MONEY THROUGH DONATIONS AND THEN CONTRIBUTIONS FOR COMMEMORATION AS PART OF THE MEMORIAL ITSELF. SO ACTION THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR THE COUNCIL THIS EVENING IS THAT YOU AMEND CHAPTER FIVE OF THE CITY CODE TO ALLOW THE CITY TO THE THE MEMORIAL ITSELF AND TO CONTRIBUTE FUNDS TOWARDS DOING THAT BY STATUTE. IN ORDER TO DO THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING. AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE ARE HERE FOR TONIGHT. SO THE PURPOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING IS JUST TO HEAR FROM FOLKS WHAT THE ANY INPUT THEY MAY HAVE RELATED TO THE AMENDMENT, THE CITY'S PARTICIPATION IN THIS. AND THEN ONCE YOU HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING TO ACT ON THAT ORDINANCE AND THEN ITEM 4.2 IS IS THE RESOLUTION FOR THE BUDGET TRANSFER ALLOWING THOSE FUNDS TO GO TOWARDS THE PROJECT SO I WILL STOP THERE AND JUST SEE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE WE OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING. THANK YOU, MR. ROONEY COUNSEL. ANY QUESTIONS OF MR. BRUIN COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN THANK YOU ,MAYOR. ONE QUESTION THAT I WANT TO BE SURE THAT I'M ABLE TO ASK AND WE IN THE THIS BODY HAS NOT CONTRIBUTED THIS PARTICULAR MEMORIAL REGARDLESS OF MY OPINIONS BEING FOUGHT AGAINST THIS. BUT MY QUESTION IS IN TERMS OF IN TERMS OF HOW YOU FEEL MANAGER WITH RESPECT TO ALL THE OTHER EXPENSES WE HAVE COMING AND HOW THIS IS FITS IN WITH THAT I KNOW THIS WOULD BE MORE GERMANE FOR 4.2 BUT I HAVE TO ASK THIS QUESTION NOW BEFORE WE GET TO THAT TO THAT PORTION OF IT. I JUST WANT TO BE SURE THAT YOU KNOW, GIVEN ALL THE OTHER ITEMS WE HAVE COMING FORWARD THAT YOU KNOW, THE CITY MANAGER FEELS CONFIDENT FROM A BUDGETARY STANDPOINT THAT WE'RE IN A POSITION TO BE ABLE TO HANDLE THAT WITH THIS ADDITIONAL EXPENSE TO. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. COUNCILMEMBERS COUNCILMEMBER LYMAN. FIRST OF ALL, FROM A BUDGET CAPACITY PERSPECTIVE, I'M CONFIDENT THIS AMOUNT FITS IN WITH THE RESOURCES WE HAVE AVAILABLE. OUR STRATEGIC PRIORITIES FUND IS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF ABOUT $5 MILLION BALANCE RIGHT NOW AND YOU KNOW, WE MAP OUT THE ANTICIPATED EXPENDITURES REVENUE WITHIN THE STRATEGIC PRIORITIES FUND THAT'S ALWAYS UP TO CHANGE FROM THE CITY COUNCIL. THIS IS A CHANGE AND I'M CONFIDENT IN WHAT THAT FUND LOOKS LIKE FOR THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS. TO YOUR SECOND QUESTION, I HAVE I'VE SHARED THIS WITH YOU. I'VE ALWAYS ASSUMED THAT THERE MAY COME A POINT DURING THIS PROCESS THAT IF THE IF THE PROJECT TEAM THAT'S BEEN RAISING THE MONEY AND MOVING THIS FORWARD WAS NOT ABLE TO GET ALL THE WAY THERE THAT THERE MAY BE AN ASK COMING BACK TO THE CITY TO TRY AND BE THAT LAST DOLLAR IN . SO THIS IS NOT A SURPRISE I DON'T THINK I THINK THE SURPRISES JUST THE ADDITIONAL COST THAT'S RELATED TO HAVING TO RELOCATE IT ON THE SITE AND BECAUSE OF THE ISSUES AND THE TIMING OF WHEN THAT HAPPENED, I THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE THAT THE CITY ASSIST WITH THE EXPENSES BECAUSE IT'S MUCH MORE THAN WHAT THE PROJECT TEAM HAD ANTICIPATED. SO I'M I'M COMFORTABLE THAT WHAT WE ARE DOING HERE IS IN GOOD FAITH WITH THE BLOOMINGTON REMEMBERS VETERANS. IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE WORK WE'VE BEEN DOING WITH THEM OVER THE LAST SIX SEVEN YEARS AND THAT THE STRATEGIC PRIORITIES FUND MORE THAN ABLE TO TAKE IT ON AND IT FINALLY I JUST WANT TO BE SURE AND THANK YOU FOR THAT QUITE COMPREHENSIVE. THIS WOULD GET IT DONE OR WOULD THERE BE ANY CHANCE THAT WE MAY NEED TO COME BACK TO TO HAVE ADDITIONAL AND THERE'S NOTHING THAT PRECLUDES US FROM GIVING ADDITIONAL IF WE WERE TO RUN INTO SOME SNAFU AS WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THIS. MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS ,ONCE YOU ADOPT THE ORDINANCE HERE IN IDENTIFY THE AMOUNT OF FUNDS THAT ARE GOING TO BE PREVENT PROVIDED ACCORDING TO STATE STATUTE YOU CAN ONLY DEVIATE FROM THAT AMOUNT BY A 10% FACTOR. SO YOU KNOW THE AGREEMENT IS FOR $250,000 TOWARDS THE PROJECT IF THERE ARE COST OVERRUNS THAT UNANTICIPATED THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO CONTRIBUTE AN ADDITIONAL $25,000 BEYOND THAT. BUT IT WOULD BE UP TO THE PROJECT TEAM AT THAT POINT IF THERE'S SOMETHING MORE THAN THAT. BUT I THINK FOR YOU KNOW THE PARTS THAT I THINK THE CITY REASONABLY SHARES A RESPONSIBILITY FOR AND THEN CONTRIBUTIONS TOWARDS THE PROJECT I'M COMFORTABLE WOULD BE ABLE TO IT WITHIN THIS AMOUNT BUT THAT'S A GOOD POINT BECAUSE THE THE ACTION FOR THE STRATEGIC PRIORITIES FUND IS TO 75 NOT TO 50 BECAUSE WE'RE JUST THINKING AHEAD SO WE DON'T HAVE TO COME BACK AND ASK YOU TO REDO THE RESOLUTION ON THE BUDGET ADJUSTMENT. BUT FOR THE ORDINANCE ONCE WE SET TO 50 THEN TO 75 IS THE MAX COUNCIL. THE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OF MR. BERGMAN THIS NO QUESTIONS VERY WELL. THIS ITEM IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND SO I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND THEN 4.1 THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING AN ORDINANCE TO CONSTRUCT A VETERANS MEMORIAL AND CIVIC PLAZA. ANYONE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IF YOU CAN PLEASE COME FORWARD. A COUPLE OF ITEMS I'M GOING TO NEED YOU AS YOU START. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND SO ON AND BE SURE TO SIGN IN . YOU CAN SIGN IN AFTERWARD. WE DO HAVE THE FIVE MINUTE SHOT CLOCK ON THE WALL AND WHEN WE GET TO THE END OF THE 5 MINUTES I WILL CUT YOU OFF NOT BECAUSE I'M MEAN BUT BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY HAS THE SAME AMOUNT OF TIME TO SPEAK AND WHAT WE WILL DO IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS DIRECTED TO STAFF OR THE COUNCIL WHAT WE'LL DO IS HOLD THOSE QUESTIONS UNTIL WE'RE DONE WITH THE PUBLIC HEARING THAT GIVES STAFF A CHANCE TO DO RESEARCH IF NECESSARY TO PREPARE THE ANSWERS AS AS COMPLETELY AS POSSIBLE. SO THAT'S MY MY PREAMBLE. GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. I'M TIM ENGSTROM. I'M WITH I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF PAST 550 COMMANDER DAN WELLS PROPOSED 550 THE AMERICAN LEGION POST HERE IN BLOOMINGTON. WE DO A LOT TO HELP STRUGGLING VETERANS HERE IN TOWN. SOME OF YOU MAY HAVE SEEN MY ROTARY PRESENTATION A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO AND KNOW DUANE YOU WERE THERE AND YOU KNOW YOU'D BE SURPRISED SOME YEARS HAVE MORE THAN OTHERS BUT WE USE THE GAMBLING MONEY THAT WE RAISE FOR A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS IN THE COMMUNITY NOT JUST ONE CAUSE AND I THINK I'M REALLY PROUD OF THAT. SO THE AMERICAN LEGION POST HERE IN BLOOMINGTON POST 550 WE SUPPORT THIS ORDINANCE AND WE SUPPORT THE NEW SITE. IT MIGHT EVEN BE BETTER ON THE NEW SITE. YOU KNOW, I'D ALSO LIKE TO THANK TONIGHT OUR VIETNAM. IF THERE'S ANY HERE TODAY, CAN YOU RAISE YOUR HAND? JUST THE VIETNAM VETERANS CAME HOME AND A LOT OF THEM CAME HOME UNWELCOMED AS YOU KNOW. THEY DECIDED TO CHANGE AMERICA. THEY CHANGED VA HEALTH CARE. THEY CHANGED THE WAY THE VA HEALTH CARE TAKES CARE OF VETERANS. THEY CHANGE HOW SOCIETY TREATS WELCOMES VETERANS. AND THEY TAUGHT AMERICA SEPARATE THE VETERANS FROM THE WAR FROM THE POLITICS THAT IS OFTEN INVOLVED WITH WAR. AND SO THEY TAUGHT AMERICA TO TREAT THEM AS PEOPLE WHO SERVE THEIR NATION. I AM A PERSIAN GULF WAR VETERAN. I SERVED IN THE GULF WAR. I WAS ONE OF THE VERY FIRST AMERICANS TO ACTUALLY GO TO THE SANDBOX AND YOU KNOW, THE VIETNAM VETERANS MADE SURE I HAD A REALLY GOOD WELCOME HOME AND SO I APPRECIATE THEM FOR THAT. I'M PROUD TO LIVE IN BLOOMINGTON. WE'RE THE FOURTH LARGEST CITY ,YOU KNOW, EDEN PRAIRIE TO THE WEST IT HAS A VETERANS MEMORIAL. THAT'S WHERE THEY HOLD THE VETERANS DAY OBSERVANCES. MINNEAPOLIS HAS ONE. THEY HAVE A NEW ONE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE RIVER BANK THERE. RICHFIELD, AS YOU KNOW, HAS VETERANS PARK AND. YOU KNOW, MANY OF THE COMMUNITIES AROUND MINNESOTA HAVE VETERANS MEMORIALS AND WE HAVE NO VETERANS MEMORIAL. BUT IT WOULD BE GREAT BECAUSE IT WOULD BE A GOOD PLACE TO HOLD VETERANS DAY OBSERVANCES LIKE OTHER COMMUNITIES DO. VETERANS MEMORIALS ARE OFTEN A PLACE FOR REFLECTION. IT SHOWS THAT THIS COMMUNITY WELCOMES THEM. THEY ARE PART OF THE CHANGE THAT WAS BEGUN BY OUR VIETNAM VETERANS TO THE WAY AMERICA THINKS AND ASSOCIATES WITH VETERANS. SO I HUMBLY ASK YOU TO SUPPORT THIS ORDINANCE AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS THE VETERANS COMMUNITY IN BLOOMINGTON I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM AT ANY AND I'M ALWAYS APPROACHABLE SO THAT'S ALL MY COMMENTS FOR TONIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. ECKSTROM. OTHERS WISHING TO SPEAK CAITLYN DO WE HAVE ANYONE ON THE PHONE WISHING TO SPEAK TO IT 4.1 THIS EVENING? MAYOR THERE IS NO ONE ONLINE LAST CALL FOR ANYONE IN THE CHAMBERS WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM COUNCIL NO ONE ON THE PHONE, NO ONE COMING FORWARD IN THE COUNCIL I WOULD LOOK FOR A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON ITEM 4.1 SO MOVED AND A MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER CARTER SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ITEM 4.1 FOR THE COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSED MOTION CARRY SEVEN ZERO CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING OUR COUNCIL MR. FAROOQI TALKED EARLIER AND MENTIONED THAT THIS OUR BLOOMINGTON REMEMBERS VETERANS GROUP HAS BEEN WORKING ARDUOUSLY AND I THINK THAT'S A PERFECT WORD FOR IT BECAUSE I HAVE NOT SEEN THE COMMUNITY WORK GROUP WORK SO HARD FOR SOMETHING POSITIVE AND UPLIFTING AND I'M CERTAINLY NEEDED IN THIS COMMUNITY AS THIS GROUP HAS AND I AM DEEPLY GRATEFUL TO THE WORK THEY'VE DONE DEEPLY GRATEFUL FOR THEM GETTING US TO THIS POINT THIS COMMUNITY TO THIS POINT AND I THINK IT'S INCUMBENT ON US COUNCIL TO HELP THEM FINISH THIS PROJECT. I THINK THE AS MR. ENGSTROM SAID THE CHANGE IN VENUE IT MIGHT ACTUALLY BE BETTER. I KIND OF LIKE IT OUT THERE ON THAT EASTERN POINT AND I JUST THE THE COST OF MOVING THE SITE DUE THE UTILITIES UNDERNEATH I THINK IT DOES IT BEARS US A BIT TO HELP HIM OUT AS MUCH AS WE POSSIBLY CAN. BUT AS MR. FERRUCCI SAID I'LL HE'S BEEN UNDER THE IMPRESSION ALSO THAT ULTIMATELY THE CITY WOULD WOULD HELP THIS ALONG AND WOULD HELP BRING THIS TO THE FINISH LINE. AND I THINK THIS IS OUR OPPORTUNITY AND I'M WHOLLY IN FAVOR OF THIS AND I CAN'T WAIT TO GET IN THE GROUND AND ULTIMATELY CUT THE RIBBON ON THIS WONDERFUL MEMORIAL COUNCILMEMBER ALONE. THANK YOU, MARY. SHARE YOUR YOUR SAME THOUGHTS AND WISHES WITH THIS BUT WHAT I ALSO WANT TO JUST MENTION FROM THIS PROJECT IS THAT WHEN THIS HAD STARTED SEVERAL DECADES AGO THE ORIGINAL ASK OF THIS WAS BELIEVE WAS VERN WILCOX WHO WANTED TO SEE A TYPE OF MEMORIAL. AND I THINK WHAT THIS REPRESENTS IS A GENERATIONAL BOTH OF DIFFERENT COUNCIL FOLKS WHO HAVE HELPED SPEARHEAD THIS FORWARD FIRST WITH VERN I DID IT FOR A LITTLE WHILE MY COLLEAGUES JENNA CARTER AND AND A LOT OF D'ALESSANDRO HELPED TO KIND OF BRING IT TODAY AND I'M JUST SO EXCITED THAT THIS WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE A PART OF DISTRICT ONE HAVING BEEN I KNOW THERE ARE OTHER FOLKS THAT ARE THAT ARE HAD BEEN ON THE COUNCIL AND OTHER MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL WHO HAVE VETERANS AS A PART OF THEIR FAMILY. MY MY DAD WAS, A VETERAN IS NO LONGER HERE AND WITH THAT WE GOT HOUSING WAS THE FACT THAT HE WAS A VETERAN IN THE CITY HERE AND SO WHAT THIS REPRESENTS AFTER THE EVENTS OF THIS WEEKEND I THINK THAT THIS IS A REAL TESTAMENT OF THAT PERIOD OF TIME THAT THIS THAT THIS ENTIRE COMMUNITY COUNCIL AND THOSE FOLKS WHO HAVE WORKED ON THIS RECENTLY HOW THEIR COMMITMENT TO GETTING THE JOB DONE AND SO I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU REALLY DEEPLY FROM MY HEART FOR ALL THE HARD WORK AND ALL OF THE TRIALS AND TRIBULATIONS THAT WE'VE ALL COME THROUGH TO GET HERE TODAY. AND SO THANK YOU. GOT SOME ADDITIONAL COMMENTS. COUNCILMEMBER NELSON AND COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO. COUNCILMEMBER NELSON YEAH. THANK YOU MAYOR. I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I FULLY SUPPORT THIS APPRECIATE ALL THE HARD WORK THAT YOU'VE PUT INTO THIS. I AM I THINK IT'S AN APPROPRIATE OF CITY FUNDS TO HELP SUPPORT THIS GET IT TO THE THE BOTTOM LINE I HAVE CONTRIBUTED TO THE PROJECT THAT'S HOW VESTED I AM AND AS THE CITY MANAGER CAN ATTEST I'VE LONG SPOKE PRIVATELY THAT I THINK THIS IS THE BETTER LOCATION THAN THE OTHER ONE AND HAVE ADVOCATED FOR THIS. SO I'M ACTUALLY VERY ACTUALLY EXCITED TO SEE IT THERE BECAUSE I THINK IT WILL BE SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE THAT COME INTO THE COMMUNITY AT THAT LOCATION SEE IT'LL BE VERY PROMINENT TO SEE THAT THAT THIS COMMUNITY SUPPORTS OUR VETERANS AND MY FATHER SERVED IN VIETNAM MY TWO OF MY UNCLES HAD PURPLE HEARTS FROM VIETNAM. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE IT. IT'S THE LEAST WE CAN DO TO SHOW OUR SUPPORT. COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I ALSO WANT TO THANK YOU ALL. I LOVE WORKING WITH YOU FOLKS AND IT'S BEEN A PRIVILEGE TO TRY TO NAVIGATE WITH YOU OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS TO TRY TO GET THIS TO THIS POINT. SO CONGRATULATIONS ON THIS MOMENT IN TIME. I THINK YOU KNOW, BY THIS TIME NEXT YEAR WILL BE CELEBRATING WHICH WILL BE VERY EXCITING IF WE CAN GET THIS DONE TODAY WHICH IS GREAT. I LOOK FORWARD TO THAT VERY, VERY MUCH. I ALSO JUST WANT TO, YOU KNOW, TELL FOLKS IN THE AUDIENCE AND ONLINE THAT WHILE WE DON'T RAISE MONEY ON BEHALF OF ANYTHING YOU CAN SUPPORT THIS. SO THE FACT IS THAT THEY'VE WORKED REALLY, REALLY HARD THERE OVER YEAR OVER 60 70% FUNDED AT THIS POINT LIKE THEY'RE REALLY REALLY CLOSE BUT YOU CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE AND SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU IF YOU HAVE A IF YOU WANT TO DO A REALLY UNIQUE THING IN HONORING A VETERAN YOUR FAMILY OR IN YOUR FRIEND GROUP. THIS IS ONE OF THOSE. IT'S A VERY COOL PROJECT AND IT IT HAS SOME UNIQUE ASPECTS TO IT THAT YOU PROBABLY WON'T SEE ANYWHERE ELSE SO UNLESS ANYBODY ELSE HAS ANYTHING I'D BE THRILLED TO MOVE THIS ITEM. I WILL COME BACK TO COUNCILMEMBER OKAY. COUNCILMEMBER UNLESS COUNCILMAN MCCARTY DOES WANT TO. EITHER WAY I'M HAPPY TO SECOND IT TOO. YES. I JUST WANTED TO ECHO THE SENTIMENTS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN SPOKEN. JUST WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR ALL OF YOUR REALLY HARD WORK. I KNOW THAT IT HASN'T BEEN AN EASY ROAD. I KNOW THERE'S BEEN SOME TWISTS AND TURNS AND BUMPS ALONG THE WAY AND SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR PERSISTENCE AND YOUR PASSION. OBVIOUSLY THIS IS AN ISSUE THAT IS PERSONAL TO MANY OF US . BOTH MY PARENTS WERE ACTIVE DUTY FOR 20 YEARS. MY DAD SERVED IN THE GULF WAR . MY MOM HAS PASSED AWAY AND SO TO HAVE A PLACE IN BLOOMINGTON WHERE WE CAN GO AND EXPRESS OUR GRATITUDE REMEMBER ALL EVERYTHING THAT HAS BEEN DONE IN COUNTRY'S HISTORY TO MAKE US WHO WE ARE TODAY. SO YOU WANT ME TO MAKE THE MOTION? ALL RIGHT. I MEAN, WE'RE GOING TO FIND IT. ALL RIGHT. SO I WOULD MOVE TO APPROVE AN ORDINANCE AMENDING FIVE OF THE CITY CODE RELATED TO A MEMORIAL FOR VETERANS ON CITY PROPERTY. SECOND, MOST OF MY COUNCILMEMBER CARTER SECOND MY COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO TO APPROVE AN ORDINANCE AMENDING CHAPTER FIVE OF THE CITY CODE RELATED TO A MEMORIAL FOR VETERANS ON CITY OF BLOOMINGTON PROPERTY. ANY FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION THIS HEARING? NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO. CONGRATULATIONS AND THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE AND AND AS OTHERS HAVE SAID THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR SERVICE TO THIS COMMUNITY, TO THIS COUNTRY FOR ALL THAT YOU DO. AND AND THANK YOU AT THE LEGION POST FOR SO FOR SPONSORING SUMMERFEST AS YOU DID I JUST LOVE THAT AND IT'S JUST I CERTAINLY APPRECIATE IT. YOU'RE YOU'RE A GREAT EXAMPLE OF THIS COMMUNITY SO THANK YOU ALL SO VERY MUCH. WE HAVE A SECOND MOTION AND I'M LOOKING AT YOU DALLESSANDRO GLADLY. I MOVED TO APPROVE A RESOLUTION MAKING ALTERATIONS TO THE APPROVED BUDGET TRANSFERRING $275,000 FROM THE 4200 STRATEGIC PRIORITIES FUND TO THE 2650 VETERANS MEMORIAL SPECIAL REVENUE FUND IN ORDER TO FUND. THE VETERANS MEMORIAL PROJECT. SECOND MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO. SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER CARTER TO APPROVE THE RESOLUTION TRANSFERRING $275,000 TO THE 2220 650 VETERANS MEMORIAL SPECIAL REVENUE FUND IN ORDER TO FUND THE VETERANS MEMORIAL PROJECT AND FOR THE COUNCIL DISCUSSION THIS. AND THIS IS JUST SO WE'RE CLEAR THIS IS WE'VE MOVED ON THAT IN 4.2 WITHOUT OFFICIALLY INFORMALLY CALLING IT. I THINK EVERYBODY UNDERSTOOD WHAT WE WERE DOING HERE. AND 4.2 NO FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY SAYING I OPPOSED THE MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO AND ITEM 4.2. LOOKING FORWARD TO INTO THE GROUND AND LOOKING FORWARD TO CUTTING THE RIBBON AND AGAIN THANKS. THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH. WELL DONE. MOVING ON COUNCIL ITEM FIVE IS OUR ORGANIZATIONAL BUSINESS AND WE HAVE TWO ITEMS UNDER ORGANIZATIONAL BUSINESS. THESE ARE STUDY ITEMS. THE FIRST IS A STUDY ITEM REGARDING STREAMLINED DEVELOPMENT APPROVALS STUDY. MR. JOHNSON GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME. HI MAYOR MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. GOOD TO SEE YOU ALL. I'LL USE THE CLICKER HERE. SO THIS IS AN ITEM THAT I AM THE PLANNING COMMISSIONER EXCITED TO PRESENT TO YOU. I'M GOING TO URGE TO AVOID DOING TWO THINGS. ONE IS USING THIS GREAT RUNWAY I HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU BY OUR TIMES AT 630 I USUALLY USED TO BE HERE AT THIS TIME. BUT THE SECOND THING IS I'LL TRY AND AVOID GOING INTO THE WEEDS UNLESS YOU WANT TO GO INTO THE WEEDS. SO IF YOU WANT MORE DETAIL IF YOU WANT SOME OF THESE THINGS CAN BE FAIRLY GRANULAR SOME OF THE TOPICS JUST LET ME KNOW AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT. SO THIS IS JUST A BRIEF AGENDA SLIDE KIND OF TALKING THE PROJECT, WHY IT WAS FORMED, WHY I DO IT AND THEN KIND OF GO OVER 11 SUBPROJECTS THAT WE EVALUATED AS A STAFF PRESENTED TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION I GIVE YOU THEIR FEEDBACK AND THEN WE CAN TALK ABOUT NEXT STEPS AND GET YOU ONTO SOLICITING YOUR FEEDBACK AND QUESTIONS AND TRY AND PIN DOWN A DIRECTION. SO IN TERMS OF BACKGROUND OF COURSE THIS PROJECT WAS ADDED TO THE 2024 PLANNING COMMISSION WORK PLAN UNDER THE CATEGORY OF CITY CODE AMENDMENTS. OVERALL JUST FROM A NATIONAL AND LOCAL CONTEXT THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF ATTENTION PAID LATELY TO WAYS THAT GOVERNMENT CAN GET OUT OF THE WAY OF ECONOMIC ACTIVITY OR HOUSING PRODUCTION OR VARIETY OF DIFFERENT THINGS. THAT'S EASY TO SAY BUT OBVIOUSLY YOU WANT TO MAINTAIN RIGOROUS REVIEW AND TRY AND PREVENT NUISANCE AND USE CONFLICTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. BUT THERE'S BEEN SOME NATIONAL EXAMPLES THAT HAVE GOTTEN A LOT OF ATTENTION IN SILVER SPRING MARYLAND. THERE WAS THE GREEN TAPE PROGRAM THAT WAS AIMED AT TRYING TO STIMULATE MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING PRODUCTION. JUST RECENTLY THE NATIONAL PLANNING CONFERENCE I LEARNED ABOUT THE MODERN ZONING CODE IN BOISE, IDAHO. SO THEY'VE DONE A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF WORK TO TRY AND MAKE A VER COMPLEX ZONING CODE MUCH MORE EASY TO NAVIGATE. AND THEN LOCALLY HERE ROCHESTER JUST LAST YEAR PASSED THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE . THEY'RE GETTING LAUDED AND GETTING POSITIVE ATTENTION FOR THAT EFFORT BECAUSE EFFECTIVELY WHAT THEY'VE DONE AS I THINK THEY'VE ELIMINATED A GOOD PERCENTAGE OF THEIR PUBLIC HEARING PROCESSES AND ABLE TO GET DEVELOPMENT APPROVALS IN A MATTER OF WEEKS . NOW SOME OF THAT IS DEPENDENT ON HAVING ROBUST AND GOOD APPLICATION AND RIGOROUS INTERNAL REVIEW BUT THEY'VE GOTTEN A LOT OF POSITIVE FEEDBACK FROM THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY ABOUT. HOPKINS MINNESOTA ALSO JUST ADOPTED A COMPLETE ZONING CODE OVERHAUL AND THEN THERE IS EXAMPLES OF THIS WITHIN OUR CODE . HOW DO YOU STREAMLINE DEVELOPMENT? YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE OPPORTUNITY HOUSING ORDINANCE THAT POLICY HAS WITHIN AN EXPEDITED BUILDING PERMIT REVIEW POLICY. SO YOU KNOW, THE CITY CAN MAKE THE PROCESS MORE RIGOROUS LESS RIGOROUS FASTER FOR THINGS THAT IT WANTS TO PROMOTE AND KIND OF LOOKING AT THIS AT A MUCH BIGGER SCALE. THAT'S WHAT THIS PROJECT IS. JUST GENERALLY SPEAKING, STAFF BELIEVES THIS PROJECT IS SUPPORTED BY OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. THERE'S A NUMBER OF STRATEGIES, GOALS, ACTIONS THAT WERE IDENTIFIED IN THE STAFF REPORT THAT SUPPORT THIS WORK. AND THEN IN ADDITION, YOUR FIVE YEAR STRATEGIC PLAN WHICH YOU RECENTLY ADOPTED AND ARE STILL IMPLEMENTING TALKS ABOUT EQUITABLE ECONOMIC GROWTH AND SOME OTHER ELEMENTS THAT WE THINK FIT WELL WITH THIS EFFORT AS WELL. SO WHY DO IT? FIRST OF ALL, YOU WANT TO ENSURE THAT YOU HAVE A VERY HEALTHY LOCAL ECONOMY. YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE ARE GROWING AND SUSTAINING BUSINESSES IN BLOOMINGTON. YOU KNOW, I KNOW SOME OF YOU ARE FAIRLY COMPETITIVE AND WANT BLOOMINGTON TO GET THE MOST ACTIVITY AND THE MOST THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. SO THAT CERTAINLY IS AN IMPORTANT REASON OF WHY TO PURSUE THESE TYPES OF CHANGES. THEN OF COURSE HOUSING HAS BEEN AN ONGOING AND CONTINUING SUBJECT MATTER TOPIC THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION NATURE THE HRC LOTS OF GROUPS HAVE BEEN FOCUSED ON HOUSING RECENTLY THE PORT AUTHORITY AND BASICALLY IT'S IF YOU ARE ABLE TO REDUCE RED TAPE OR THE DIFFICULTY TO PRODUCE HOUSING MORE HOUSING IS GOING TO GET PRODUCED. THAT'S NOT ELIMINATING THE OTHER BARRIERS THAT EXIST WITH RESPECT TO THE COST AND SOME OF THOSE OTHER THINGS BUT IT'S AN IMPORTANT ELEMENT OF IT. SO HOW DO WE HOW DO YOU LOWER BARRIERS IN COST FOR DEVELOPMENT? SO WE'RE THINKING ABOUT IT KIND OF IN THESE TWO CATEGORIES COSTS AND BARRIERS. THE FIRST TWO NUMBERS THOSE ARE MORE COSTS. SO REDUCING TIME IT TAKES TIME IS A COST. THAT'S REALLY THE BIGGEST ONE FROM THE FEEDBACK I GET FROM THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT CERTAIN APPLICATION TYPES IT CAN TAKE TEN WEEKS TO GET THROUGH THE FORMAL REVIEW PROCESS AND THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE TYPICALLY A MONTH OF PRE APPLICATION WORK OR MEETING WITH STAFF, HAVING CONSULTANTS PREPARE PLANS, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. SO REALLY YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT YOU KNOW A 4 TO 6 MONTH PROCESS BEFORE YOU HAVE YOUR ZONING APPROVALS IN HAND IN SOME CASES THE FINANCIAL COST THOSE OBVIOUSLY INCLUDE OUR APPLICATION FEES. THERE'S SOME OPPORTUNITIES TO OR ELIMINATE SOME OF THOSE IN CERTAIN INSTANCES BUT I THINK THE TIME IS REALLY THE BIGGEST ONE WHEN IT COMES TO THE COST TERMS OF BARRIERS. JUST YOU KNOW, BLOOMINGTON I WOULD PUT IT SOMEWHAT IN THE MIDDLE. I'M PROUD TO THINK THAT OUR CODE IS FAIRLY LEGIBLE, EASY TO UNDERSTAND IN CERTAIN WAYS BUT THERE ARE ZONING CODES OUT THERE THAT ARE VERY COMPLEX AND VERY DIFFICULT TO NAVIGATE AND THE PROCEDURES ALMOST CHANGED DISTRICT TO DISTRICT OR APPLICATION TO APPLICATION TYPE. BUT OVERALL IT CAN JUST MAKE PEOPLE'S HEAD SPIN ESPECIALLY PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT FAMILIAR WITH GOING THROUGH ENTITLEMENT PROCESS OR ZONING APPROVAL PROCESS. SO JUST INCREASING PROCEDURAL SIMPLICITY JUST MAKES IT MORE ACCESSIBLE FOR PEOPLE. ON INCREASING CERTAINTY AND CONFIDENCE IN APPROVAL. THAT'S A BIG ONE RELATES HEAVILY TO THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT ITEM YOU KNOW CERTAINLY RELATES TO REZONINGS AND OTHER BIGGER APPLICATIONS ARE NOT PROPOSING TO CHANGE BUT THAT'S A BIG ONE IN TERMS OF ESPECIALLY FOR LAYPEOPLE OF WHETHER OR NOT THEY'RE GOING TO WANT TO PULL THE LEVER TO GO FORWARD. SO THESE ARE THE FOUR METRICS REASON WHY WE KIND OF ITEMIZE THESE AS FAR AS THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE IDENTIFIED AS CRITERIA WHEN WE LOOKED AT WHAT SUBPROJECTS TO STUDY WITHIN OUR CODE WHERE WAS THE OPPORTUNITIES? THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT INFORMED THAT BACK TO THE DISCUSSION ABOUT WHY DO IT. JUST FROM STAFF'S PERSPECTIVE WE HAVE A STRONG BELIEF THAT STREAMLINING DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITY IS POSITIVE FROM AN EQUITY PERSPECTIVE AND THE REASON BEING IS THE MORE COMPLEX THE LENGTHIER YOUR REGULATORY APPROVAL PROCESSES ARE THAT REALLY FAVORS THE MORE RESOURCE, THE MORE EXPERIENCED DEVELOPMENT AND BUSINESS PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY. IT MAKES IT LESS ACCESSIBLE FOR EVERYONE TO KIND OF GET THROUGH THE DOOR. BEFORE I SAY THE LAST BULLET POINT I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH THE CITY MANAGER. IT ALSO GIVES POLICYMAKERS THE OPPORTUNITY TO JUST DO MORE POLICY MAKING WORK IF YOU'RE NOT HAVING TO WORK THROUGH DEVELOPMENT APPROVALS AT EVERY AGENDA IT JUST YOU MORE OXYGEN AND BANDWIDTH TO FOCUS ON ON POLICY MAKING. BUT FINALLY YOU CAN DO A LOT OF STREAMLINING AND THAT'S GREAT BUT WHAT YOU CAN'T DO IS PARE THAT WITH REDUCING YOUR INTERNAL REVIEW PROCESS. IT HAS TO MAINTAIN A HIGH LEVEL OF INTEGRITY. YOU HAVE TO HAVE STAFF WHO HAVE THE ABILITY TO BETWEEN MULTIPLE DEPARTMENTS AND DIVISIONS TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL OF THE ELEMENTS THAT ARE THERE THAT RESULT IN SUCCESSFUL DEVELOPMENT ARE THERE ON A CONSISTENT AND COMPREHENSIVE OF WAY BASICALLY. SO HOPEFULLY THAT PROVIDES GOOD BACKGROUND INFORMATION. SO AFTER GOING THROUGH AND KIND OF DEVELOPING THESE FOUR CRITERIA WE IDENTIFIED 11 SUB PROJECTS THAT WE WANTED TO STUDY AS PART OF THIS THE PLANNING COMMISSION REVIEWED ALL 11 OF THESE AND THEY HAD TWO SEPARATE STUDY SESSIONS ON THIS PROJECT AND I DON'T INTEND TO PRESENT ALL OF THESE ITEMS TO YOU. WHAT I INTEND TO DO IS KIND OF FOCUS ON THE THE THE MAJORS MAJOR IN THE MAJORS AND WE'VE IDENTIFIED THE MAJORS AS THESE PROJECTS AND HIGHLIGHTED YELLOW. WE CERTAINLY CAN GO OVER SOME OF THE OTHER ONES AND DISCUSS THOSE IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THEM. BUT WHAT WE WANT TO SPEND TIME TONIGHT MOST SPECIFICALLY IS TALKING ABOUT SITE PLAN REVIEW CONDITIONAL USES THE PLANNING COMMISSION APPROVAL OF CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS A PLANNING COMMISSION AS THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT AS WELL AS THE REASONABLE ACCOMMODATION PROCESS. SO THAT'S WHERE OUR PRESENTATION IS GOING TO FOCUS ON. WE CERTAINLY CAN TALK ABOUT THESE OTHER THINGS AS NEEDED. SO THE FIRST TOPIC I WILL PRESENT TO YOU HAS TO DO WITH SITE PLAN REVIEW. SO MOST CITIES IN MINNESOTA HAVE SOME FORM OF A FORMAL PLAN APPROVAL THROUGH THE THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT APPLICATION PROCESS. A FEW CITIES DO NOT BUT ONE IMPORTANT POINT I WANT TO MAKE IS THAT WHENEVER A SITE PLAN REVIEW IS PAIRED WITH ANOTHER APPLICATION SAY A REZONING SAY A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT. SAY SOMETHING THAT IS ALSO BUNDLED WITH IT. THE REVIEW ALWAYS FOLLOWS THE MOST RIGOROUS OR EXTENSIVE PROCEDURAL PATHWAY. SO I JUST WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THAT THAT YOU KNOW, NOT MANY OF OUR LARGER DEVELOPMENT APPLICATIONS AND OUR FINAL SITE AND BUILDING PLANS BY THEMSELVES AND THAT'S WHAT WE CALL OUR SITE PLAN REVIEW IS FINAL SAY BUILDING PLANS. SO THAT'S AN IMPORTANT POINT TO MAKE BUT SITE PLAN REVIEW IS ONE OF THE AREAS THAT THAT IS A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO STREAMLINE DEVELOPMENT. AS I MENTIONED, SOME CITIES DO NOT HAVE A FORMAL SITE PLAN REVIEW. SOME CITIES HAVE FULL ADMINISTRATIVE SITE PLAN REVIEW WHAT BLOOMINGTON HAS AS WE HAVE AN ADMINISTRATIVE COMPONENT MEANING THAT THE PLANNING MANAGER HAS THE AUTHORITY TO APPROVE MORE MODEST SMALLER DEVELOPMENT FOR SITE PLAN REVIEW AND THE REST OF THEM ASSUMING THEY'RE CODE COMPLIANT GO TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR THEIR REVIEW AND APPROVAL THAT'S ASSUMING THAT THERE IS ANOTHER APPLICATION COMPONENT THAT REQUIRES CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL . THAT ALSO ASSUMES THAT NO APPEAL IS RECEIVED. YOU'VE HAD AN APPLICATION THAT WAS RECENTLY APPEALED AND HOPEFULLY THAT EXPERIENCE WILL BE PROVIDE BACKGROUND THINKING IN TERMS OF HOW THIS PROCESS CAN WORK. SO WHAT ARE THE POSITIVE BENEFITS OF SITE PLAN REVIEW? ONE IS THAT IT KEEPS THE PUBLIC INFORMED. WE HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING NOTICE TYPICALLY USUALLY IT GETS MAILED OUT TO OWNERS WITHIN 500 FEET. IT GIVES THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE TESTIMONY, LEARN ABOUT THE PROJECT AND CONNECT WITH STAFF, GET THEIR QUESTIONS ANSWERED AND THAT'S GOOD. BUT AS I'VE SAID, THERE IS SOME COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT. I'LL FOCUS MOSTLY ON THE TIME ADMINISTRATOR OF REVIEW TAKES 2 TO 3 WEEKS PLANNING COMMISSION 5 TO 6 WEEK CITY COUNCIL 7 TO 9 WEEKS. THE OTHER POINT I'D MAKE ABOUT THIS IS THAT WE OFTEN SHARE THIS SLIDE IN PLANNING AND ZONING ACTIONS THE PYRAMID OF DISCRETION. THIS ACTION IS ONE OF THE LEAST AMOUNTS OF DISCRETION. IF AN APPLICATION MEETS CODE . TYPICALLY A CITY IS MUST APPROVE IT UNLESS YOU KNOW SOME EXTENUATING CIRCUMSTANCES EXISTS. SO WHAT PLANNING COMMISSION WANT TO DO? SO WE PRESENTED TWO OPTIONS TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION. ONE WAS A FULL ADMINISTRATIVE SITE PLAN REVIEW WHICH MEANS OF AN APPLICATION MEETS CODE AND IT DOESN'T HAVE ANY OTHER APPLICATION TYPE ASSOCIATED WITH IT LIKE A REZONING OR SOMETHING ELSE THAT THAT WOULD BE A STAFF LEVEL APPROVAL. SOME CITIES OFFER THAT. MOST CITIES DO NOT. BLOOMINGTON DOES NOT CURRENTLY. THE OTHER OPTION THEY REVIEWED WAS EXPANDING THE ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVAL AUTHORITY AND WHERE THEY ULTIMATELY LANDED WAS TO FOLLOW PATH NUMBER TWO TO EXPAND THE ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVAL AUTHORITY. AND SO WHAT THEY ARE RECOMMENDING IS THAT THE PLANNING AUTHORITY EXPAND WITH WITH REGARDS TO SITE PLAN REVIEW TO NEW BUILDINGS WITH A GROSS AREA OF 10,000 SQUARE FEET. IT'S CURRENTLY 1000 BUILDING EXPANSIONS NOT TO EXCEED 25% OF FLOOR AREA OR 20 AND 20,000 SQUARE FEET. CURRENTLY IT'S 5% AND 10,000 AND THEN RESIDENTIAL PROJECTS THAT ADD UP TO FIVE NEW UNITS AS PART OF A REVISION TO PREVIOUSLY APPROVED PLANS. SO WE JUST HAD AN APPLICATION AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION JUST LAST MEETING WHERE THEY CONVERTED A CLUBROOM INTO ONE DWELLING UNIT AND AN OFFICE AND THAT HAD GO THROUGH A PLANNING COMMISSION PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVAL. THERE WAS NO EXTERNAL ADDITIONS TO THE BUILDING. IT WAS JUST AN INTERIOR RENOVATION. NOW THIS THAT PROJECT IS EXACTLY THE KIND OF PROJECT AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION MADE THIS POINT IS THAT SHOULD BE SUBJECT TO ADMINISTRATIVE ASSUMING IT MEETS CODE AND ADDRESSES ALL THE REQUIREMENTS THAT IT NEEDS TO DO. SO THIS KIND OF GIVES YOU TWO OPTIONS TO CONTEMPLATE. THE ONE THING I'LL SAY JUST WHEN THINKING ABOUT THE OPTIONS IS THAT SOME CITIES THAT HAVE FULL ADMINISTRATIVE SITE PLAN REVIEW AND THIS IS A VERY HARD THING TO ASSESS TO SUSS OUT UNLESS YOU HAD INFINITE AMOUNT OF TIME TO DO RESEARCH IS THAT SOME CITIES WILL TELL YOU THEY HAVE ADMINISTRATIVE SITE PLAN REVIEW BUT IN REALITY THE ZONING CODES ARE SO RIGOROUS THAT MOST PEOPLE GO THROUGH A DEVELOPMENT APPLICATION PROCESS MEANING VERY FEW APPLICATIONS GO THROUGH ADMINISTRATIVE SITE PLAN REVIEW AND IT'S HARD TO SUSS THAT OUT JUST ON THE BASIS OF LOOKING AT OTHER CITY ZONING CODES. SO THOSE ARE TWO OPTIONS TO THINK ABOUT AND WE CAN RETURN TO THAT IF NEED BE. HERE'S A COUPLE EXAMPLES OF OF WHAT THIS PROCESS WOULD LOOK LIKE. SO THESE ARE ALL PROJECTS THAT PREVIOUSLY ARE UNDER THE CURRENT ZONING CODE CANNOT BE APPROVED ADMINISTRATIVELY. THE YARD SCAPES WAREHOUSE ON WEST 86TH STREET THIS IS ONE OF MY FIRST PROJECTS WHEN I CAME TO THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON. THIS IS A DETACHED OR IT'S A NEW BUILDING AND IT'S A WAREHOUSE BUILDING. IT MEETS CODE . IT WAS A PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD APPLICATION TYPE. IT WAS 6000 SQUARE FEET. THE THE CHANGES AS CONTEMPLATED OR RECOMMENDED BY PLANNING COMMISSION WOULD ALLOW THIS PROJECT TO GO ADMINISTRATIVE IF IT WERE ASSUMING IT WAS CODE COMPLIANT. THE SCHNEIDERMAN'S FURNITURE ADDITION THAT'S A MORE RECENT ONE THAT WAS A 4000 SQUARE FOOT ADDITION. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT COULD BE APPROVED ADMINISTRATIVELY. THE DONALDSON ADDITION. UNDER THIS NEW PROPOSAL AGAIN FULLY CODE COMPLIANT THAT COULD GO ADMINISTRATIVE. WE HAD I REMEMBER A PROJECT I THINK IT WAS IN 2017 BUT THE VALVOLINE OIL CHANGE ON LYNDALE DID A TRASH ROOM ADDITION AND I THINK IT WAS I WANT TO SAY 500 SOME SQUARE FEET THAT HAD TO GO TO A PUBLIC PROCESS BECAUSE IT REPRESENTED A ADDITION PROPORTIONALLY SPEAKING ABOVE WHAT THE CURRENT CODE ALLOWS. SO THESE ARE KIND OF SOME OF THE COSTS OF SOME OF THOSE THINGS. AND THEN IN THE BOTTOM RIGHT CORNER THIS IS JUST AN EXAMPLE OF A PROJECT THAT WAS APPROVED FOR FINAL SITE AND BUILDING PLANS BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND JUST SHARE THIS EXAMPLE TO KIND OF PUT SOME SCALE BEHIND IN SOME CITIES THAT HAVE FULL ADMIN SITE PLAN . YOU COULD HAVE FAIRLY LARGE PROJECTS GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS AND MAYBE THAT'S POSITIVE. MAYBE THERE'S SOME COSTS TO THAT. BUT SOME CITIES ARE GOING THAT PATHWAY. SO GETTING ON TO THE NEXT PROJECT SO THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT PROCESS SO THE PLANNING COMMISSION SPENT A LOT OF TIME ON THIS PROJECT. IT WAS A VERY EXTENSIVE AND STAFF FOR THAT MATTER SPENT A LOT OF TIME ON THIS PROJECT. SO THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT PROCESS REPRESENTS ONE OF THE KEY WAYS THAT THE ZONING CODE TRIES TO ELIMINATE CONFLICTS BETWEEN LAND USES. SOME LAND USES CARRY WITH THEM CERTAIN NUISANCE CHARACTERISTICS OR MAKE THEM YOU KNOW HAVE CERTAIN CONSIDERATIONS THAT WARRANT FURTHER SCRUTINY OR CREATE SOME KIND OF HISTORICALLY CREATE PROBLEMS WHEN LOCATED ADJACENT TO OTHER MORE SENSITIVE USES A RESIDENTIAL PLACES OF ASSEMBLY SCHOOLS WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE. AND THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT PROCESS IS A MEANS AUTHORIZED BY STATE STATUTE TO HAVE A HEARING AND HAVE MORE SCRUTINY DISCRETION IN YOUR DECISION MAKING PROCESS THAN THAN JUST A PERMITTED USE. SO THAT'S THE THAT'S THE ALTERNATIVE IS A PERMITTED USE AND THERE'S PROHIBITED I SUPPOSE TOO. BUT ONE THING I WANT TO MAKE CLEAR ABOUT THIS PROJECT IS THAT THIS EVALUATION DOES MAKE ANY USES IN THE BLOOMINGTON ZONING CODE ALLOWED IN A ZONING DISTRICT WHERE IT'S CURRENTLY NOT. WHAT THIS WHAT THIS STUDY IS STRICTLY LIMITED TO IS EVALUATING USES THAT ARE CURRENTLY CONDITIONAL IN ORDER TO MAKE THEM PERMITTED IN SOME ON SOME LEVEL AND I SAY ON SOME LEVEL BECAUSE WE CREATED THIS EXTENSIVE MATRIX IT HAD ALL OF AND SHOW YOU AN EXAMPLE OF IT BUT IT HAD STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS FOR ALL OF THE SPECIFIC USES AND SOME OF THEM WERE NOT AS SIMPLE AS JUST MAKING THEM CONDITIONAL ON THE PERMITTED SOME OF THEM HAD TO DO WITH EITHER DELETING USE OR KEEPING A LIMITED DESIGNATION IN CERTAIN DISTRICTS. SO THAT'S ALL ALL WITHIN THAT MATRIX AND I'LL GET TO THAT IN A MINUTE. BUT SO WHAT ARE THE STRENGTHS OF THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT PROCESS? SO AS I MENTIONED GREATER GREATER DISCRETION IN YOUR DECISION MAKING. IT'S NOT INFINITE. IT'S NOT AS MUCH AS A REZONING OR A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT WHERE YOU'RE REALLY LEGISLATING IN EFFECT IT'S A FORM OF LEGISLATING BUT YOU CAN ADD CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL TO THE TO THE DEVELOPMENT SO LONG AS THEY'RE NOT ARBITRARY AND CAPRICIOUS. I MEAN THERE HAS TO BE SOME NEXUS BETWEEN THE CONDITION THAT YOU'RE ADDING IN ORDER TO TO ELIMINATE PERCEIVED NUISANCE OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE. THERE'S A HEARING PROCESS SO PEOPLE GET NOTIFIED. THAT'S ONE OF THE VALUES OF A CONDITIONAL PERMIT PROCESS. THE FINAL POINT OF VIOLATION SO THIS HAS NOT OCCURRED IN MY TIME BUT THEORETICALLY SOME CITIES DO PURSUE THIS SOMETIMES CITIES WILL REMOVE OR SUSPEND A USE AS A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT. WE HAVE A LOT OF TOOLS IN OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT TOOLBOX TO UTILIZE BEFORE WE GET TO SOMETHING LIKE THAT. AND SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT HASN'T HAPPENED IN MY TIME. I DON'T IT HAPPENS BEHIND US HERE TOO. HE CAN SPEAK TO EVEN A LONGER INSTITUTION VIEW OR MORE INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE BUT THIS ISN'T SOMETHING THAT OCCURS VERY OFTEN. IT JUST DOESN'T GET TO THAT POINT TYPICALLY. BUT I MEAN SUFFICE WORTH NOTING AND I SUPPOSE THE WEAKNESSES OF THIS IS THAT IT CREATES UNCERTAINTY IN TERMS OF WHETHER TO PURSUE A PROJECT AND BY THAT, YOU KNOW, MOST OFTEN THE CASE WHERE PEOPLE ARE UNAWARE OF THAT A CONDITIONAL PERMIT IS REQUIRED IS WHEN THEY'RE TRYING TO BECOME A TENANT IN AN EXISTING . VERY OFTEN IT'S NOT THE CASE THAT WE'RE BUILDING A BUILDING BUT THEY NEED A COPY AND THEY'RE KIND OF TAKEN BY SURPRISE AND THAT THERE'S THERE'S NOT AS MUCH BARRIERS FOR PEOPLE FOR PEOPLE THAT. IT'S USUALLY A BUSINESS TRYING TO GO IN AN EXISTING BUILDING LIKE OH I NEED A CONDITIONAL PERMIT. I DIDN'T KNOW THAT. AND THAT CAN CREATE, YOU KNOW, QUITE A SIGNIFICANT DELAY OR SOME JUST WALK IN . IT JUST DOESN'T WORK. SO THAT UNCERTAINTY COMPONENT TOO IS THE TIM I MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, ANYWHERE BETWEEN 6 TO 8 WEEKS AND THAT'S TYPICALLY FOR PC IF IT'S GOING ON TO CC IT'S A LONGER PROCESS AND THEN THE FINANCIAL ASSOCIATED WITH IT SO THEY STILL HAVE TO CREATE GOOD PLANS PREPARED BY ARCHITECTS AND ENGINEERS IN SOME CASES IN THOSE THINGS BUT TYPICALLY THERE IS SOME SOFT COST ASSOCIATED WITH PREPARING DEVELOPMENT APPLICATION GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS SOMETIMES . LEGAL REPRESENTATION OR OTHER REPRESENTATION IS INCLUDED IN THAT SO IT'S HARD TO PIN DOWN NECESSARILY BUT THERE'S TYPICALLY SOME SOFT COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH GOING THROUGH THIS PROCESS. OKAY. SO NOW GETTING ON TO THE MAIN EVENT OF PLANNING COMMISSION LENGTHY PROCESS HERE. SO THE BLOOMINGTON ZONING CODE HAS 112 USES DESIGNATED CONDITIONAL AND SO WHAT THE EVALUATION REALLY AIMED TO DO WAS TO DETERMINE WITH FRESH EYES WHETHER OR NOT IT'S APPROPRIATE TO DESIGNATE ALL 112 OF THESE USES AS CONDITIONAL. IT'S A TOOL AUTHORIZED UNDER STATE STATUTE AS I SAID. BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT YOU SHOULDN'T ALSO UTILIZE SOME DISCRETION TERMS OF WHERE YOU DESIGNATE USES AS CONDITIONAL . AND SO WE REVIEWED ALL 112 A COUPLE THINGS I'LL NOTE THAT ARE BOTH KIND OF ON THE SCREEN BUT ON THE SCREEN IS THAT THERE'S ALWAYS COMPLEXITY IN KNOWING WHERE THE USE IS ALLOWED, WHAT ZONING DISTRICTS IT'S ALLOWED AND THAT'S REALLY ESSENTIAL TO EVALUATING IT. UNDERSTANDING THE USE DEFINITION IS ALSO REALLY IMPORTANT SOMETIMES THERE'S RESTRICTIONS OR LIMITATIONS WITHIN THE DEFINITION OF A USE AND I GIVE YOU EXAMPLES IF YOU WANT. AND THEN THIRD FINALLY NOT REFLECTED THE SCREEN IS THAT SOME USES ARE SUBJECT TO LICENSING REQUIREMENTS SO THEY HAVE TO GET AN ANNUAL LICENSE. THERE'S TYPICALLY CONDITIONS OR REQUIREMENTS THAT HAVE TO BE MET IN THE LICENSING SECTION THAT'S NOT REFLECTED IN THE ZONING CODE , THAT'S NOT REFLECTED IN HERE BUT IT DOES INFORM SOME OF STEPS RECOMMENDATIONS I WOULD SAY THAT. OKAY. SO HOW DID WE GO ABOUT EVALUATING 112 OF THESE USES? WE DID WE DID LOOK AT THE THINGS I JUST MENTIONED BUT THE MAIN THINGS THAT WE DID AS WE DETERMINED THAT'S WHAT'S WITHIN THE MATRIX AND COLOR CODED HOPEFULLY THAT'S HELPFUL BUT WE WANTED TO SEE WHICH OF THESE USES HAVE USE BASED STANDARDS. SO A LOT OF THE USES THAT WERE DESIGNATED AS CONDITIONAL EXCUSE ME THEY WERE DESIGNATED AS SUCH BEFORE THE CITY ADOPTED SPECIFIC USE STANDARDS IN THE ZONING CODE WHICH USE STANDARDS ARE PRIMARILY INTENDED TO ELIMINATE SOME OF THE ISSUES ASSOCIATED WITH NUISANCE. SO MANY OF THESE USES WERE RESTAURANT IS A GOOD EXAMPLE. PREVIOUSLY ALL RESTAURANTS HAD TO GET A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT USE PERMIT IN BLOOMINGTON. SINCE THAT TIME USE STANDARDS HAVE BEEN ADOPTED AND IT ADDRESSES MANY OF THE ISSUES THAT DO ARISE WITH RESTAURANT USES. SO WE DID EVALUATE WHETHER ALL THESE USES HAVE USED STANDARDS OR NOT. IF IT HAS USED STANDARDS THAT MIGHT BE A REASON TO REMOVE THAT CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT REQUIREMENT. IF NOT MAYBE DON'T DO THAT. IT DEPENDS THE SITUATION. THE OTHER THING IS WE LOOKED AT ALL THE USES THAT ARE THE POTENTIAL FOR NUISANCE. SO WHAT DOES NUISANCE MEAN? IT MEANS A LOT OF THINGS CAN MEAN ODOR, NOISE, DUST GLARE, LIGHT TRAFFIC, INDUSTRIAL ACTIVITIES. IT CAN MEAN A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS FOR A LOT OF DIFFERENT LAND USES BUT BASICALLY WHAT WE TRIED TO DO AND IT WAS SOME OF THE MORE TENURED STAFF IN THE PLANNING DIVISION JUST ANECDOTALLY THROUGH OUR EXPERIENCE IN THE BLOOMINGTON SETTING TRYING TO EVALUATE ALL THESE DIFFERENT USES FOR WHAT IS THE POTENTIAL FOR NUISANCE AND THEN FINALLY WHAT IS THE COMPLEXITY OF THESE USES? SOME USES ARE VERY SIMPLE AND STRAIGHTFORWARD EVERYONE KNOWS WHAT A RESTAURANT IS. AS I MENTIONED A UNIVERSITY MORE COMPLEX, A LOT MORE DIFFERENT ACTIVITIES DAY AND NIGHT THERE'S A MUCH WIDER RANGE OF THINGS THAT HAPPEN AT KIND OF A MULTI-USE CAMPUS VERSUS KIND OF A SINGLE USE TYPE OF BUSINESS OR SITE. AND SO THAT'S ANOTHER THING THAT WE LOOKED AT WITH SOME OF THESE RECOMMENDATIONS IS HOW IS THE USE? SO WE DID THAT FOR ALL 112 OF THESE WE HAD SEVERAL HOURS OF STAFF DISCUSSION ABOUT THEM MAYBE MORE THAN WE PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE BUT WE ARRIVED AT A RECOMMENDATION WITH ALL 112 OF THESE AND STAFF RECOMMENDED THAT 57 OF THESE USES BE CHANGED TO PERMIT IT ON SOME LEVEL. SO THAT'S ALMOST HALF THE PLANNING COMMISSION DID A VERY SIMILAR LINE BY LINE I WOULD SAY THEY DIDN'T DISCUSS EVERY SINGLE ONE BUT THEY WANTED TO GO THROUGH THIS IN A VERY GRANULAR WAY OF REVIEWING EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE USES AND THEY AGREED WITH STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION BUT FOR 12 OF THE 57. SO THE RECOMMENDATION PUT FORTH FOR YOU TONIGHT BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS TO DESIGNATE 45 OF THESE 112 USES THAT CURRENTLY REQUIRE A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT IN BLOOMINGTON TO BECOME PERMITTED USES. NOW I DIDN'T MAYBE I SHOULD HAVE MENTIONED THIS BEFORE I MEANT TO BUT WHAT DOES IT MEAN IF IT'S A PERMITTED USE? THEY STILL HAVE TO GET A BUILDING PERMIT. THEY STILL GO THROUGH AN INTERNAL STAFF THAT'S MULTI DEPARTMENT. ALL DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS ARE INCLUDED IN THE BUILDING PERMIT REVIEW AND ONE OF THE ITEMS WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT IS CLARIFYING EXPANDED AUTHORITY FOR THIS GROUP CALLED THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE. SOME OF YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH DRC. IT'S BEEN A LONGSTANDING INTERNAL ENTITY THAT REVIEWS ALL TYPES OF DEVELOPMENT APPLICATIONS. ONE OF THE CODE AMENDMENTS WE WOULD RECOMMEND IS CLARIFYING THAT DRC HAS THE ABILITY AND THE AUTHORITY TO REVIEW BUILDING PERMITS FOR CHANGE OF USE SCENARIOS. FOR THIS VERY REASON YOU GET A COMPLEX CHANGE OF WHILE THAT MAY NO LONGER REQUIRE A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AND ACCORDING TO THE ZONING CODE IT STILL DOES WARRANT ASSEMBLING THE INTERNAL STAFF REVIEW GROUP IN ORDER TO GIVE THE APPLICANT A FULL AND ROBUST REPORTING ON WHAT THEY HAVE TO DO TO GET THEIR BUILDING PERMIT. I THINK JUST AS MUCH A VALUE TO THE APPLICANT AS IT IS TO THE STAFF IN TERMS OF COORDINATING THE REVIEW PROCESS. SO THAT WAS A LOT OF TALKING ON IN THAT WEEDS DIRECTION. SO SORRY I SHOULD HAVE ADVANCED TO THE SLIDE BEFORE JUST TO REITERATE STAFF RECOMMENDED 57 PLANNING COMMISSION REMOVED 12 FROM THAT LIST THEY WERE UNDECIDED ON THREE. I WILL HIGHLIGHT THOSE FOR OUR LAST QUESTION IN DISCUSSION EXHIBIT TWO HIGHLIGHTS ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT USES IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT A SPECIFIC USE, THEY'RE ALL NUMBERED ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE MATRIX THAT WOULD HELP US IDENTIFY THE ITEM IN ORDER TO EXPLORE IT. IF THERE ARE QUESTIONS BUT OPTION ONE IN TERMS OF JUST FROM AN ACTION STANDPOINT IN TERMS OF WHAT COULD INFORM AN ORDINANCE WOULD BE TO AFFIRM THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION OPTION WOULD BE TO REVISE IT. GLENN CORRECTED ME AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION I DIDN'T LEARNED MY LESSON OPTION THREE IS KEEP THE ZONING CODE THE WAY IT IS AND DON'T MAKE ANY CHANGES. BUT THOSE ARE THE TWO OPTIONS AS WE SEE THEM. OKAY WE'RE ON THE MOVE THINGS ALONG HERE A LITTLE WE'RE GOING TO GROUP ALL OF THESE SUBPROJECTS AS ONE BIG BULK ITEM AND THE REASON THAT THEY'RE ALL CONNECTED TOGETHER IS THAT THEY FOLLOW THE SAME THEME. ONE OF THE WAYS TO STREAMLINE DEVELOPMENT AND GOES BACK TO MY POINT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, KIND OF GIVING POLICYMAKERS OXYGEN TO WRITE POLICY IS ABOUT GRANTING THE PLANNING COMMISSION MORE AUTHORITY TO APPROVE APPLICATIONS TO APPEAL AND THAT'S THE PART YOU HAVE TO UNDERLINE AND BOLDFACE AND FONT IS SUBJECT TO APPEAL IF YOU GET APPROVAL FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION WHICH IS MOST OFTEN THE CASE I KNOW YOU RECENTLY SAW AN APPEAL BUT THAT IS NOT THE MOST OFTEN CASE THE ATYPICAL CASE IF YOU DO NOT HAVE TO GO TO CITY COUNCIL TO GET APPROVAL THAT TYPICALLY SHAVES OR REMOVES 2 TO 3 WEEKS OF TIME FROM THE APPROVAL PROCESS. SO THAT'S REALLY THE NUMBER ONE STREAMLINING THAT YOU'RE GAINING IN GOING TO THAT AND. SO ALL OF THESE SUBPROJECTS IN ADDITION TO REDUCED APPLICATION FEES BUT ALL OF THESE SUBPROJECTS ON DIFFERENT LEVELS HAVE TO DO THE IDEA OF GRANTING THE PLANNING MORE APPROVAL AUTHORITY SUBJECT TO APPEAL. SO PROJECT NUMBER AND PROJECT NUMBER EIGHT ARE THE ONES I WANT TO SPEND MOST OF MY TIME. I THINK THEY'RE THE MOST ONES BUT PROJECT NUMBER SIX AS YOU KNOW AS YOU'VE SEEN THERE ARE SOME CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS THAT COME TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR REVIEW AND APPROVAL THUS THE PUBLIC HEARING IS STILL HELD AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THEY MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO YOU AND THEN THAT ACTION IS TYPICALLY PLACED ON YOUR CONSENT AGENDA AND SOMETIMES IT'S PULLED TO DISCUSS, SOMETIMES NOT. BUT SUFFICE TO SAY THAT SOME MORE OFTEN THAN NOT THOSE KIND OF REMAIN ON THE CONSENT AGENDA THERE'S 22 OF THESE CONDITIONAL USES THAT HAVE TO COME TO CITY COUNCIL FOR REVIEW AND APPROVAL. THERE'S TWO INTERIM USES. SO HOW DID WE GET TO THAT STRUCTURE? THAT'S A FAIR QUESTION. PREVIOUSLY THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVED ALL CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS IN BLOOMINGTON AND IN 2009 WHEN THIS LAST MAJOR PROCEDURAL TYPE OF ITEM HAPPENED, THE COMMISSION WAS GRANTED THE AUTHORITY TO APPROVE ALL OF THEM EXCEPT FOR THOSE 22 I MEAN NOT NOT THE NUMBER 22 BUT ALL OF THOSE BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PRECISE NUMBER WAS BUT OVER THE YEARS SINCE THEN A FEW USES LIKE DATA CENTER AND A FEW HAVE BEEN ADDED TO THAT LIST FOR THE TO GET MORE PUBLIC SCRUTINY ON THOSE USE. SO ONE OF THE THINGS YOU CAN DO TO SHORTEN THE TIME IT TAKES FOR THE ENTITLEMENTS IS TO GRANT ALL THE GRANT THE APPROVAL AUTHORITY FOR THOSE 22 ITEMS AND THE TWO INTERIM USES TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION. ONE THING I DIDN'T SAY AT THE JUMP FORGIVE ME I'M GOING TO A LOT OF ORDER IS THAT ANYONE CAN APPEAL A ACTION FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION THE PUBLIC CAN APPEAL, THE APPLICANT CAN APPEAL. YOU CAN APPEAL. YOU'RE A MEMBER OF THE SO WHATEVER ACTION THE PLANNING COMMISSION TAKES I WANT TO STRESS VERY MUCH AND IT'S CRITICALLY IMPORTANT FOR PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS ALWAYS AN PATHWAY TO GET THE APPLICATION BEFORE THE CITY FOR FINAL DISPENSATION OR FINAL ACTION. YEAH SO I HAVE A SLIDE SHOWING WHAT THOSE TRYING TO USE ARE IF YOU WANT TO REVIEW THEM IN DETAIL BUT ALL IF IT'S OKAY I'LL TALK ABOUT VARIANCES NEXT SO UNDER STATE STATE STATUTE CREATES A BOARD OF APPEALS ADJUSTMENT. MOST OF CITIES HAVE THEIR CITY COUNCIL SERVE AS THE BOARD OF AND ADJUSTMENT BUT STATE LAW DOES ALLOW THE CREATION OF A SEPARATE BOARD OF APPEALS AND ADJUSTMENT. MINNEAPOLIS HAS A SEPARATE BOARD OF AND ADJUSTMENT SOME OF THEIR LARGER CITIES DO THAT OR YOU CAN GRANT THE AUTHORITY TO A PLANNING COMMISSION TO SERVE IN THAT CAPACITY WE DID HAVE LEGAL REVIEW THIS AND THE GOOD THING ABOUT THAT IS THAT THAT TOO ALSO EVEN THOUGH THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS DESIGNATED AS THAT BOARD STATE STATUTE DOES ALLOW FOR THAT ACTION TO BE APPEALED TO THE HIGHER GOVERNING BODY IN THAT CASE AS WELL. SO EVEN IF YOU WERE TO FOLLOW THAT RECOMMENDATION OR THAT APPROACH THE SAME THAT I WAS SAYING ABOUT CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS AND FINAL SAY AND BUILDING PLANS WHERE THERE'S THIS APPEAL PATHWAY THAT EXISTS THAT ALSO COULD EXIST FOR VARIANCES AS WELL TWO OF OUR NEIGHBORING CITIES HAVE THIS EXACT STRUCTURE EDINA AND EDEN PRAIRIE BOTH HAVE THEIR PLANNING COMMISSION SERVE AS THEIR BOARD OF APPEALS AND ADJUSTMENT WITH THE OPTION OR OPPORTUNITY TO APPEAL TO THE CITY COUNCIL EITHER THE APPLICANT OR A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC OR ANYONE REALLY. YEAH. SO SIMILAR TO MY COMMENT ABOUT CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT WE DON'T SEE A LOT OF APPEALS AND MOST OFTEN THIS IS MAYBE ANECDOTAL BUT. MOST OFTEN WHEN I SEE VARIANCES ON YOUR AGENDAS I THINK THEY'RE PLACED ON FOR THE MOST PART AND TYPICALLY THEY GET APPROVED AS PART OF THE CONSENT AGENDA AND IF THERE IS SOME ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION THAT'S NEEDED TO BE HAD, I THINK THAT'S A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO APPEAL THE PLANNING COMMISSION ACTION BY ANY PARTY SO THE REST OF THE ITEMS FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLANS ,NO FLEXIBILITY TENT EXTENSION CERTIFICATES OF APPROPRIATENESS NUMBER NINE AND TEN DON'T COME UP VERY OFTEN. THOSE ARE MORE CODE CLEANUPS FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE I'M HAPPY TO TALK ABOUT THEM IF THERE'S QUESTIONS BUT PLANNING COMMISSION REVIEWED THESE IN EARNEST AND THEY SPENT A LOT OF TIME TALKING ABOUT IT AND THE RECOMMENDATION WAS THAT THEY WERE READY FOR THE TASK OR UP TO THE TASK OF TAKING THIS ON IF IF SUPPORTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL. SO YEAH WE THOUGHT IT BEST TO KIND OF PRESENT THESE AS A AS A GROUPING. THE FINAL ONE WAS ADDED A LITTLE BIT LATER IN THE PROCESS BUT BLOOMINGTON DOES NOT HAVE WE HAVE A REASONABLE ACCOMMODATION POLICY AND THERE'S A WAY TO APPLY FOR REASONABLE ACCOMMODATIONS OF DIFFERENT KINDS BUT WE DON'T HAVE A FORMAL POLICY IN OUR ZONING CODE FOR REASONABLE ACCOMMODATION. REASONABLE ACCOMMODATION HAS TO DO WITH ENSURING APPROPRIATE ACCESS TO CITY SERVICES AND HOUSING ACCORDING TO THE AMERICANS WITH DISABILITIES ACT AND THE FAIR HOUSING AMENDMENTS OF 1988 AND SO WE DID A LITTLE BIT RESEARCH AND THIS ACTUALLY WAS GENERATED FROM A QUESTION FROM THE PUBLIC RECENTLY. SO THANK YOU TO THE PUBLIC FOR ALWAYS KEEPING US GOING BACK TO THE STATUTES AND CODES AND TRYING TO COME UP WITH A BETTER WAY BUT BASICALLY WHAT KEVIN TASKING THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT FOUND IS THAT SOME CITIES HAVE A REASONABLE ACCOMMODATION APPROVAL WITHIN THEIR CITY CODE BROADLY OR THEIR ZONING CODE AND WHAT THAT WOULD ALLOW TO HAPPEN IS TO CREATE SOME FORM OF ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVAL THAT WOULD ADDRESS A REASONABLE RELATED TO A CERTIFIED DISABILITY AND THE REASON WHY THAT COULD BE APPLICABLE OR HELPFUL JUST FROM A STREAMLINING PERSPECTIVE BUT JUST MAYBE A CONTINUOUS OR PROCESS IMPROVEMENT STANDPOINT IS THAT CURRENTLY IN BLOOMINGTON THE WAY TO RELIEF FROM A ZONING REGULATION IF YOU'RE GETTING GRANTING RELIEF RELATED TO REASONABLE ACCOMMODATION IS TO GET A VARIANCE. NOW VARIANCE IS NOT GOOD TOOL TO DO THAT ONE THE FINDINGS DON'T ALIGN AT ALL WITH REASONABLE ACCOMMODATION AND TWO VARIANCES TYPICALLY WITH THE LAND IT'S NOT AS IF NOT THE OWNER OR THE RESIDENT NOT. THE CITY HAS IN THE PAST ESTABLISHED SOME SUNSET CONDITIONS ON SOME OF THOSE VARIANCE APPLICATIONS BUT FRANKLY IT'S JUST NOT THE BEST PROCESS OR TOOL IN ALIGNMENT WITH REASONABLE ACCOMMODATION . SO PLANNING COMMISSION WAS VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THIS ITEM AS WELL. SO IN TERMS OF NEXT STEPS WE WANT TO COLLECT YOUR FEEDBACK TONIGHT BUT WHAT THE MAP WHAT THE PROCESS WOULD LOOK LIKE YOU'RE COMING FORWARD WOULD BE TO DRAFT AN ORDINANCE FOLLOWING YOUR RECOMMENDED EVIDENCE AND BRINGING IT TO A PUBLIC HEARING HOPEFULLY IN LATE AUGUST OR SEPTEMBER AT THE LATEST AND THEN SCHEDULE CITY COUNCIL PUBLIC HEARINGS TO PRESENT THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION OF THAT ORDINANCE LATE SEPTEMBER OR OCTOBER . SO WITH THAT I WILL JUST ASK THIS KIND OF DISCUSSION KEY DECISION POINT QUESTIONS OF THE KEY QUESTION NUMBER ONE IS THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDATIONS. DO YOU CONCUR WITH ALL OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDATIONS ON THESE SUBPROJECTS OR DO YOU DO YOU WANT TO REVISE THE DIRECTION ON ANY PARTICULAR SUB PROJECT ? AND THEN KEY QUESTION NUMBER TWO IS THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION SPECIFICALLY REQUESTED COUNCIL REVIEW THREE USES CEMETERY RESTAURANT WITH OUTDOOR ROOFTOP SEATING. WE'VE HAD MULTIPLE APPLICATIONS OF THAT RECENTLY AND CITY LICENSED CONGREGATE LIVING FACILITIES SERVING FIVE OR MORE PERSONS SO THE THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION IS PRESENTED TO YOU IN THIS DOCUMENT INCLUDES MAKING THESE PERMITTED USES WHILE THEY CURRENTLY REQUIRE A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT I THINK THE CEMETERY ONE AND THE CONGREGATE LIVING ONE ARE PROBABLY MORE JUST STRAIGHTFORWARD BUT AT THE OUTDOOR OR ROOFTOP SEATING AT A RESTAURANT THAT ONE THERE WAS MORE ROBUST DISCUSSION ABOUT HOW TO MAYBE ADOPT PERFORMANCE STANDARDS THAT WOULD ELIMINATE SOME OF THE NOISE OF OUTDOOR DINING ON YOUR RESIDENTIAL AND YOU KNOW WE CAN CERTAINLY TALK ABOUT THAT BUT THE PLANNING COMMISSION US TO GET YOUR SPECIFIC FEEDBACK ON THOSE THREE BUT QUESTION NUMBER PROBABLY THE BIG ONE SORRY I'VE BEEN TALKING TO LONG FORGIVE ME. WELL THANK YOU MR. THANKS FOR THAT COMPREHENSIVE OVERVIEW AND I THANK THE PLANNING COMMISSION ALSO FOR THEIR WORK ON THE 112 THAT ISSUES THAT THEY WENT THROUGH GOD BLESS THEM FOR DOING THAT FOR SO WELL DONE BY THEM THE SO WE'VE GOT THE MAIN QUESTIONS IN FRONT OF THIS I JUST WANT TO OPEN IT UP FIRST ANY COUNSEL TO THE COUNCIL FOR ANY GENERAL QUESTIONS OR CLARIFYING QUESTIONS AS TO WHAT WE HEARD TODAY? COUNCILMEMBER LOGAN THANK YOU, MAYOR. SO ONE OF THE THINGS I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND FROM YOUR OVERALL KIND OF STANDPOINT IS YOU KNOW BECAUSE PART OF THIS YOU KNOW, FOR BRINGING INTERNALLY HOW DOES THE THE PUBLIC KIND OF LEARN ABOUT IT IN TERMS OUR TRANSPARENCY? YOU KNOW, WE USED TO HAVE A YOU KNOW, HELP ME UNDERSTAND A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT YOU KNOW, HOW THAT IS HANDLED. YOU KNOW THESE SOME OF THESE ITEMS GO BEFORE THE DRC THAT'S YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF INTERNAL AND THEN RESPECT FOR FOR THOSE FOLKS WHO, YOU KNOW, MAYBE FIND THEMSELVES IN THE MINORITY HOW IS THAT KIND OF HANDLED AS THESE AS THESE EVENTS KIND OF COME FORWARD AND ALL YOU CAN DO IT THROUGH AN APPEAL BUT THROUGH THE PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS THERE SEEMS TO BE A MORE EVEN KIND OF WAY FOR YOU TO HAVE THOSE COMMENTS ELICITED EARLIER ON. SO I'M JUST I'M CURIOUS ABOUT ABOUT THOSE PIECES AND THEN I MEAN I'LL STOP THERE AND I'LL ASK MY NEXT QUESTION AFTER THAT I JUST GOT YEAH. CUSTOMER ALLOTMENT I MEAN I DON'T THINK IT'S GOOD FOR STAFF TO BEAT AROUND THE BUSH ON THAT. I THINK THAT THE PUBLIC NOTIFICATION COMPONENT PARTICULARLY THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT PIECE AND THEN EXPANDING ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVAL THERE'S LESS PUBLIC NOTIFICATION. THERE'S NO WAY AROUND THAT OR THERE'S NO WAY TO KIND SUGARCOAT THAT SIDE OF IT. THE ONE THING I WOULD SAY ABOUT THAT IS THAT WHILE PUBLIC NOTIFICATION GOOD JUST FROM BUILDING CONFIDENCE AND UNDERSTANDING WHAT'S THE MECHANICS OF WHAT'S HAPPENING, IT CAN ALSO BE FRUSTRATING FOR SOME MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC TO LEARN THAT PARTICULAR CODE COMPLYING APPLICATIONS. THERE'S VERY DISCRETION TO MAKE CHANGES WITHIN SOME OF THOSE APPLICATIONS. THAT'S NOT A REASON NOT TO DO IT. I'M JUST KIND OF SHARING THAT ANECDOTAL VIEWPOINT OF OF WHAT WE WHAT WE DO LEARN. THERE IS SOME VALUE FROM A STAFF PERSPECTIVE TOO OF KIND OF LEARNING SOME OF THAT LOCAL KNOWLEDGE. THERE'S I'M NOT GOING TO DISMISS THAT EITHER. THAT'S IMPORTANT. BUT I THINK WHAT WHAT THE BALANCE OF THE STRIDES THAT WHAT THIS RATE BUT THESE RECOMMENDATIONS THE BALANCE THAT IT TRIES TO THREAD OR THE WHAT IT'S TRYING TO PRESENT TO YOU IS REALLY IDENTIFYING THOSE USES THAT HAVE A LOT LESS HISTORY OR LIMITED EXAMPLES OF CREATING NUISANCE CHARACTERISTICS FOR NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES OR HAVE LESS LESSER DEVELOPMENT IMPACTS. AND THESE THINGS CAN BE REVERSED AT SOME POINT IN TIME TOO IN THE FUTURE THEY CERTAINLY CAN BE REVERSED AT ANY POINT. SO THEN JUST A COUPLE OTHER QUESTIONS REAL QUICK AS WE GET TO THE OTHER OTHER PORTIONS HERE IN TERMS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION COMPOSITION, ARE WE LOCKED INTO A YOU KNOW, THERE TERMS OF BEING THREE, IS IT THREE IT'S A MAXIMUM OF SIX YEARS WITH THAT IS THAT STATE LAW THAT THAT DOES THAT FOR US OR IS IT IN TERMS OF ALL THESE ITEMS KIND OF COMING BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION THAT LEVEL OF THAT TYPE OF THING IS SOMETHING I HAVE A CONCERN AROUND IS THAT THAT STATE ORDINANCE THAT REQUIRES THAT OR IS THAT JUST SOMETHING THAT WE'VE DONE? MR.. IS AS I UNDERSTAND OUR TERM LIMITS WITHIN OUR PLANNING COMMISSION AND MR. JOHNSON YOU KNOW OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD OR EITHER DUTY HAVE THE FAIR TO THE BOSSES FIRST SURE I'M MAY REMEMBER WE JUST HAD A CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS LAST TUESDAY AND I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER OH OUR CITY CODE SPECIFICALLY TALKS ABOUT SEVERAL COMMISSIONS I DON'T THINK THAT PLANNING COMMISSION TERM ARE IN THERE BUT I'M GOING TO DOUBLE CHECK. WE CAN ALWAYS COME BACK TO IT LATER TOO. WE DO HAVE SOME SENSE. YEAH WE DO. WE'RE GETTING EXCITED TO THREE YEAR TERMS. THE YEAR TERMS, YES. CONSECUTIVELY WHEN YOU'RE COMES TO PLAN THE CITY COUNCIL YEAH PLEASE. MR. MARKET GARDE GOOD EVENING. WELCOME MAYOR. OBVIOUSLY JUST CONFIRMING THAT THE CITY CODE DOES HAVE A TERM LIMITS PLANNING COMMISSION IN ITS TWO OR THREE YEAR TERMS THAT'S THE CITY REQUIREMENT. THAT'S NOT A STATE REQUIREMENTS, NOT STATUTORY. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THERE'S JUST ONE QUESTION AND THEN THE LAST THING WHEN YOU HAD PRESENTED THE THE PLANNING APPEALS PROCESS THAT THERE WAS A POSSIBILITY OF GOING FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO APPEALS BOARD IF THAT WERE TO HAPPEN, DOES THAT IT OR WOULD THAT ALSO GO BECAUSE THEY CAN ALSO THAT COME BACK TO THE CITY COUNCIL OR IS THAT KIND OF IT CAN YOU LOCK IT OFF AT THE BOARD OF APPEALS IF YOU WENT DOWN THAT PROCESS? YEAH. COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN SO STATUTE DOES AUTHORIZE AN ADDITIONAL APPEAL OPPORTUNITY TO THE CITY COUNCIL EVEN THOUGH EVEN IF YOU DESIGNATE THE PLANNING COMMISSION AS THE BOARD OF APPEALS OR A SEPARATE BOARD OF APPEALS OR A SEPARATE YES SO IT COULD BE APPEALED THREE TIMES. WELL IF, YOU DESIGNATE A BOARD OF APPEALS AN ADJUSTMENT. THEY WOULD HEAR A VARIANCE FOR EXAMPLE, PLANNING COMMISSION WOULD NOT SERVE IN THAT CAPACITY AT ALL AT THAT POINT RIGHT. OH OKAY SO WELL I MEAN I THINK STATE LAW WOULD AUTHORIZE YOU TO CREATE ANY OF THOSE OPPORTUNITIES BUT WE'RE I'VE SEEN THERE BE A SEPARATE BOARD OF APPEALS THEY'RE HOLDING PUBLIC HEARING AND THEY'RE TAKING A FINAL ACTION ON IT THAT CAN BE APPEALED OR BE APPEALED UNDER STATE LAW. OKAY. SO THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS NOT NOT A PART. OKAY. THANKS FOR CLARIFYING. NEXT I WAS THINKING THERE WAS A COUNCILMEMBER NELSON AND COUNCILMEMBER NELSON. THANK YOU, MAYOR. JUST A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS BROADLY OVERALL AND THEN I HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT SPECIFIC ITEMS. I'LL WAIT ON THOSE. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR? OKAY. WILL THIS INCREASE THE WORKLOAD FOR PLANNING COMMISSION OR ARE THESE THINGS THAT THEY ALREADY AND THEN ALSO REDUNDANTLY COME TO THE CITY COUNCIL? YEAH MAYOR COUNCILMEMBER NELSON WE WOULD WE WOULD NOT ANTICIPATE IT INCREASE THE WORKLOAD WE WOULD INCREASE A DECREASE THEIR DEVELOPMENT REVIEW RESPONSIBILITIES YOU KNOW THEY'VE THEY'VE RECENTLY ANECDOTALLY SAID TO US THAT THEY WISH THEY HAD MORE TIME POLICY MAKING FOR STUDY SESSIONS AND ITEMS LIKE THIS SO NO IT WOULD NOT INCREASE THAT IT WOULD BE LIKELY TO DECREASE IT SOMEWHAT. IT'S HARD TO MEASURE GUESS EXACTLY HOW MUCH THAT'S FINE. WE'RE NOT JUST PUTTING AN UNDUE BURDEN ON ON MAKE SURE SOMETIMES WHEN THERE ARE THINGS THAT ARE THERE IS A BIT MORE CONVERSATION ON THEM IN THE COMMUNITY. YOU KNOW WE HAVE RECEIVED RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE PLANNING AND WE HAVE DISAGREED WITH THEM AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'VE ALWAYS TALK ABOUT IS THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS THE RULES AND THEY KIND OF THEIR CHARGE IS FOLLOW THESE RULES AS BEST YOU CAN AND AND TELL US WHAT YOU THINK BASED ON THOSE RULES THE CITY COUNCIL BECAUSE HAS A LITTLE BIT MORE AUTHORITY CAN MAYBE GO A LITTLE BIT BEYOND THOSE. WE DON'T HAVE COMPLETE AUTHORITY AND KNOW YOU TALKED ABOUT YOUR PYRAMID BUT. DOES THIS CHANGE ANYTHING IN TERMS OF THAT RELATIONSHIP? DO THEY GET A LITTLE BIT MORE DISCRETION TO TAKE LOOK AT THESE ITEMS SIMILAR TO WHAT THE COUNCIL GENERALLY WOULD HAVE. YEAH, I MEAN I WELCOME MELISSA OR THE CITY ATTORNEY AND CITY MANAGER'S PERSPECTIVE ON THIS IN ADDITION TO WHAT I'LL SAY BUT ACTUALLY THE THE DISCRETION IS THE SAME WHETHER IT BE THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE CITY COUNCIL YOU'RE BOTH TASKED WITH MAKING A SET OF FINDINGS ON A DEVELOPMENT APPLICATION AND THE PERSPECTIVE BY WHICH YOU EVALUATE THE PROJECT ACCORDING TO THE FINDINGS MIGHT BE SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT. YOU KNOW YOU HAVE BUDGET AND YOU HAVE A LOT OF OTHER ELEMENTS THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION DOES NOT. SO I DON'T THINK THAT THE DISCRETION DIFFERENT. I THINK THAT THE PERSPECTIVE OF HOW YOU EVALUATE THE PROJECT ACCORDING TO THE MIGHT BE SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT. THAT'S HOW I WOULD ANSWER THAT QUESTION. YOU MAY REMEMBER I GUESS I PROBABLY LARGELY AGREE WITH THAT RESPONSE. THE ONLY THING TWO THINGS COME TO MIND ONE IS WHEN THE CITY COUNCIL IS ACTING LIKE A BOARD OF APPEALS THE THE DISCRETION BE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN WHEN THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS ACTING IN THAT CAPACITY. THE OTHER THING I THINK ABOUT IS THAT THE LAW REQUIRES AND THE EXHAUSTION OF ADMINISTRATIVE REMEDIES IN THAT MEANS THAT YOU CAN'T GO TO THE COURTS UNTIL YOU HAVE GONE THROUGH ALL THE PROCESS THE LOCAL LEVEL. SO IF WE CREATE MORE PROCESS THEN I DON'T KNOW IF THAT HAS A NEGATIVE OR A POSITIVE IMPACT ON THE OVERALL EXPERIENCE BUT THE MORE PROCESS WE CREATE, THE MORE PROCESS WOULD NEED TO GO THROUGH BEFORE THEY GET TO THE COURTS AND EVERYONE WANTS TO BE IN COURT IS I HAVE LAST QUESTION JUST ON THE OVERALL PART OF THIS IS WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IN THE EVENT THAT PLANNING COMMISSION AND PLANNING STAFF DISAGREED WHICH WE'VE SEEN BEFORE WOULD THAT OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE COULD MAKE AUTOMATICALLY GO AS AN APPEAL PER SAY TO THE CITY COUNCIL TO RESOLVE THAT DISPUTE BETWEEN STAFF AND AND COMMISSION MAYOR COUNCILMEMBER NELSON. IF THEORETICALLY YOU COULD CREATE A PROCEDURE THAT DOES THAT ALTHOUGH I WOULD LIKE THE CITY ATTORNEY'S VIEWPOINT THAT AT THE SAME TIME WHAT I WOULD SAY IS THAT WE AS STAFF ARE CERTAINLY THE FIRST LINE OF REVIEW OF YOUR CITY CODE AND CERTAINLY WE'RE KNOWLEDGEABLE IN IT BUT I DON'T THINK WE PUT OURSELVES THE SAME LEVEL AS THE PLANNING COMMISSION FROM A WHAT RECOMMENDATION WE'RE MAKING. IT'S OUR DUTY TO TO WE CAN IDENTIFY WHERE WE MIGHT HAVE DISAGREED IN OUR INITIAL RECOMMENDATION. THAT'S ALL IN THE RECORD BUT IT'S OUR DUTY TO PRESENT THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION TO YOU SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS WHAT LOOKING FOR. ANSWER THE QUESTION DIRECTLY BUT I DON'T KNOW ABOUT UNDER STATUTE IF I MAY REMEMBER I GUESS ONE THING YOU COULD DO IS SAY WHERE THE PLANNING COMMISSION MADE A DECISION OR ACT IS INCONSISTENT WITH THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION THEN IT WOULD COME TO COUNCIL AUTOMATICALLY. THAT SEEMS TO ME IT WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT EASIER TO MANAGE THAN POTENTIALLY HAVING SOMETHING THAT WOULD SEEM LIKE A FINAL OPINION OR A FINAL ACT HAPPENING AT THE SAME TIME AS THE COUNCIL COULD TAKE ACTION ON THAT YOU WOULDN'T WANT TO SIMULTANEOUS THINGS HAPPENING WITH DIFFERENT LEVELS OF THAT SEEMS LIKE IT WOULD CREATE AMBIGUITY SO OFF THE CUFF YOU KNOW THAT WOULD THE FIRST THING I WAS TALKING ABOUT SEEMS LIKE IT WOULD BE MANAGEABLE TO BE DRAFTED IN AND THE FIRST IS ALONG THE LINES THAT I HAD BEEN THINKING THE FIRST WOULD BE MORE LIKE IT WAS A RECOMMENDATION IT WAS DISAPPROVE OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES. YEAH. OR JUST DIFFERENT I GUESS. YEAH AND THEN THAT WOULD GO OKAY WAIT WE DID WE NEED SOMEONE ELSE TO MAKE A FINAL DECISION ON THIS ONE AND IF I MAY ADD TO THAT JUST BECAUSE IT'S ON THAT TOPIC ONE CLARIFYING POINT IS THAT IF THERE'S EVER A SITUATION WHERE THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS TIED THREE THREE WHICH SOMETIMES HAPPENS, THOSE AUTOMATICALLY GO TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR COUNCILMEMBER NOT COUNCILMEMBER NELSON PRETTY MUCH COVERED OFF WHAT I HAD. COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. NICE TO SEE YOU, MR. JOHNSON AS ALWAYS. SO I I BELIEVE I THINK IT'S IN YOUR SLIDES OR MAYBE I READ IT IN THE PACKET BUT THERE WERE THERE WERE A THINGS THAT YOU ALL DECIDED NOT TO REVIEW AND I THINK DO I DID YOU ACTUALLY HAVE IT IN A SENSE I HAVEN'T I KNOW I THINK READ IT IN THE REPORT. UM, ONE OF THEM IS SOMETHING I'M I'M SPECIFICALLY INTERESTED IN BECAUSE I THINK IT MIGHT GET TO THE HEART OF MAYBE WHAT I WAS EXPECTING ALL MIGHT BE DOING AND MAYBE IT'S NOT IN HERE BECAUSE YOU CHOSE NOT TO DO IT SO THIS THING CALLED CONFORMANCE TRIGGERS RELATED TO SIGNIFICANT REDEVELOPMENT AND CHANGE OF USE AND IT SAYS THE PROJECT EVALUATED BUT NOT RECOMMENDED AND THAT'S IN THAT SECTION. YEP I GOTCHA. SO BASED ON SOME SOME SPECIFIC COMPLAINTS THAT I'VE ACTUALLY HEARD OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, I AM THINKING THAT THOSE CONFORMANCE TRIGGERS ARE THE THINGS THAT WERE PROBLEMATIC FOR THOSE FOLKS. SO FOR EXAMPLE, I MAY I'M GOING TO MAKE UP SCENARIOS THAT ARE RELATED TO THE THINGS I'VE BEEN THINKING ABOUT. FOR EXAMPLE, YOU MENTIONED A CHANGE OF USE, RIGHT? THIS IS A THIS IS AN ENVIRONMENT THAT USED TO HAVE A COFFEE SHOP IN IT AND NOW SOMEBODY WANTS TO PUT A FULL BLOWN RESTAURANT IN THAT AND IT TRIGGERS A NUMBER OF CONFORMANCE REQUIREMENTS AS I UNDERSTAND IT BECAUSE RESTAURANTS HAVE DIFFERENT CONFORMANCE REQUIREMENTS TO TO THAT OR A SIGNIFICANT DEVELOPMENT. SO FOR EXAMPLE YOU KNOW YOUR APPLESAUCE WAS THERE AND THEN BECAUSE OF WHAT THEY WERE DOING TRIGGERED A BUNCH OF CONFORMANCE REQUIREMENTS AND NOW THEY'RE DOING A BUNCH OF EXTRA WORK BECAUSE THOSE CONFORMANCE REQUIREMENTS RIGHT WHERE IS I'M ASSUMING THAT THAT'S WHAT THAT MEANT THOSE CONFORMANCE TRIGGERS RELATED TO SIGNIFICANT REDEVELOPMENT AND IF THAT'S TRUE, WHY DID YOU CHOOSE NOT TO ADDRESS THOSE? YEAH, THANK OR DO I HAVE THAT WRONG AND THAT'S NOT WHAT THAT IS. I KNOW YOU'RE ON THE RIGHT TRACK. UH, MAYOR COUNCILMAN DALE SANDRO THE REASON THAT WE DID NOT PURSUE THEM IS THAT ACTUALLY WE FOUND IS THAT IN THE INSTANCES OF MOST DEVELOPMENT SCENARIOS WHICH MOST OF THE CODE TRASH IS A BIG ONE AND SO THAT ONE COMES UP A LOT AND THAT IS PART OF ANOTHER PROJECT ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION PLAN WHICH WE'LL BRING TO YOU LATER THIS YEAR. BUT THE REASON THAT WE DIDN'T PURSUE IT IS THAT IN MOST CASES WE'RE SEEING WHAT THAT SECTION REALLY IS MOST FOCUSED IS ADDITIONS 25% OR MORE OF THE FLOOR. SO IT'S EXPANSIONS. THIS TYPICALLY IN MOST CASES IS SIGNIFICANT DEVELOPMENT. THE OTHER SCENARIO WHERE WE GET CHANGE OF USE CONFORMANCE IS SOMETIMES ASSOCIATED WITH A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT BUT THAT'S ALL THAT'S FUNDAMENTALLY TIED TO UNDERLYING STANDARD IN THE ZONING CODE . IT'S NOT JUST DRIVENY THE SET UP PROCESS. THE SIDEWALKS AREN'T EXAMPLE OF THAT IF YOU HAVE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT IF THERE'S A USE THAT IS THAT IS GOING TO GENERATE MORE PEDESTRIAN ACTIVITY, WE USE THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT PROCESS IN ORDER TO GET A SIDEWALK CONNECTION OF THE BUILDING SOMETHING THAT'S COME UP AT VARIOUS UPS BUT THAT EXISTS IN THE CODE WITH OR WITHOUT A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT IT ACTUALLY IS JUST LISTED AS CHANGE USE SO I'M NOT DOING A GREAT JOB EXPLAINING WHY WE DIDN'T PURSUE IT. I THINK THE REASON THAT WE DIDN'T PURSUE IT IS THAT AFTER EVALUATING THE LIST WE FOUND THAT MOST OF THE THINGS WERE POSITIVE AND SHOULD REMAIN IN THE CODE AND SOME OF THESE OTHER THINGS I THINK WE CAN TACKLE THROUGH SPECIFIC ORDINANCES THAT CHANGE THOSE FUNDAMENTAL STANDARDS NOT THE TRIGGERS COMPONENT IF THAT MAKES SENSE. IT DOES SO SO I I'LL KIND OF TAKE MY I'LL ABOUT IT THIS WAY AND YOU TELL ME IF I HAVE IT WRONG BUT IN MY AND AND MR. MAYOR, I JUST THIS IS MORE OF A GENERAL CONCEPT AND I THINK WE'LL GET THE SPECIFICS ABOUT IT AS WE GO ALONG. BUT IF WE TAKE THE 45 RECOMMENDATIONS AND WE MOVE THEM TO PLANNED USE, WE ELIMINATE SOME OF THE UP ISSUES THAT WE WERE THAT MIGHT HAVE TRIGGERED SOME OF THOSE CONFORMANCE REQUIREMENTS ANYWAY. SO THERE IS A STREAMLINING. THE SECOND PART IS THERE'S OTHER WORK HAPPENING WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION THAT IS ADDRESSING SOME OF OUR SPECIFIC COMPLAINTS ISSUES TRASH AND OTHER THINGS THAT ARE COMING LATER AND SO MAYBE IT'S AFTER THOSE THESE TWO THINGS ARE DONE THAT I SHOULD WORRY IF WE'VE ADDRESSED THE THINGS THAT I'VE BEEN HOPING WE WOULD ADDRESS OR NOT. IS THAT A FAIR SUM UP MAYOR? I THINK THAT'S A FAIR AND SQUARE DESIGN. I THINK THAT'S A FAIR ASSESSMENT. OKAY. SITUATION. ALL RIGHT. SO THE ONLY OTHER QUESTION I HAVE WAS RELATED AND TO THE QUESTION THAT COUNCILMEMBER NELSON ASKED WAS THE PLANNING COMMISSION IT FEELS TO ME LIKE THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S WORKLOAD WHILE IT GET BIGGER NECESSARILY IT MIGHT ACTUALLY GET MORE BURDENSOME BECAUSE WE ARE SHIFTING A LOT OF THE PUBLIC HEARING. A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T COME TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION HEARING THEY WAIT FOR THEY WAIT FOR THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER PACKET TO BE PUBLISHED AND THEN THEY COME TO THE PUBLIC HEARING RIGHT AND WORRY THAT WE'RE EITHER GOING TO LIKE GIVE THE GIVE THE PUBLIC NOT THAT THING OR WE'RE GOING TO PUSH ALL THAT ACTIVITY TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND MAKE THAT BURDENSOME. I'M NOT SURE I KNOW EITHER WAY WHAT THE RIGHT ANSWER IS BECAUSE WHETHER IT IS NUMBER ONE IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN AND NUMBER TWO IF IT HAPPENS THERE AND IT DOESN'T HAPPEN HERE, IT SOONER WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IN TERMS OF STREAMLINING THE PROCESS. IT'S JUST THAT THOSE ARE APPOINTED MEMBERS OF A COMMISSION AND NOT, YOU KNOW, ELECTED OFFICIALS OBLIGATED TO THE PUBLIC WHO ARE GOING TO BE GETTING WELL IF I MAY SUGGEST BOTH BARRELS OF OF THE PUBLIC POTENTIALLY IN SOME CASES. AND SO HOW HOW WAS THAT CONVERSATION WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND WHAT WHAT DID THEY FEEL COMFORTABLE DOING LIKEWISE ARE WE COMFORTABLE AND THIS IS A RHETORICAL QUESTION RIGHT NOW PUSHING THAT BURDEN ON TO THEM. YEAH, MORE CONCERNED UNDER US. I BROUGHT THIS LIGHT UP AGAIN. THIS IS A LIST OF APPLICATIONS THAT TALKS ABOUT GRANTING THEM MORE AUTHORITY RIGHT NOW THE ONLY TWO ITEMS ON THIS LIST THAT THEY DON'T ALREADY HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION ABOUT IS THE TENT EXTENSIONS AND THE CERTIFICATES APPROPRIATENESS. SO VARIANCES WHICH SOMETIMES CAN BE CONTROVERSIAL OR ON CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS AT TIMES SOMETIMES FINAL SITE AND BUILDING PLANS. YOU KNOW, WE HAD A MULTIFAMILY BUILDING OVER IN PINE AVENUE AND THERE WAS A FEW NEIGHBORS THAT WERE THRILLED ABOUT IT. THE PLANNING COMMISSION MADE WELL NEVER MIND THAT'S A BAD EXAMPLE. THAT'S NOT TRUE. THAT WAS A FACT. THAT WAS POINT DEVELOPMENT. FORGIVE ME. THE POINT IS IS THAT THEY DID NOT IDENTIFY THIS AS A CONCERN ON THEIR PART BECAUSE PROCEDURALLY SPEAKING THERE IS ALWAYS AN APPEAL MECHANISM TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR ANY APPLICATION THAT RAISES FURTHER SCRUTINY OR ADDITIONAL IS SUBJECT TO ADDITIONAL SCRUTINY AND IT MIGHT BE SCRUTINY COMING FROM THE CITY COUNCIL IN SOME CASES AND THAT'S OKAY THE POINT IS THAT ANY MEMBER ANY ACTOR WITHIN THE SYSTEM HAS THE ABILITY TO THIS ACTION TO THE TO THE HIGHER GOVERNING BODY WHICH IS YOU WHO ARE THEIR ELECTED REPRESENTATIVES. AND SO THEY DID NOT REGISTER A CONCERN ABOUT THAT. OKAY, FAIR ENOUGH. I DON'T KNOW, MR. MAYOR, IF YOU ARE THINKING ABOUT THAT BUT I YOU KNOW, I'M NOT HAVING TO DO A FEW PLANNING COMMISSIONS AND WATCHING THEM ON TAPE, YOU KNOW IT'S AN OPEN QUESTION ABOUT THE RIGOR ASSOCIATED WITH HANDLING PUBLIC HEARINGS. AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE TRAIN OUR BOARD CHAIRS AND THINGS LIKE THAT IN SOME OF THOSE ITEMS EVERYTHING. BUT I THINK WE WOULD HAVE TO UP THE ANTE THERE BECAUSE YOU KNOW, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THEM TAKING YOUR FUNCTION LIKE IN A LOT OF CASES THAT THEY DON'T TODAY. SO IT'S I'M NOT NECESSARILY OPPOSED OR FOR OR AGAINST IT AT THIS POINT. I JUST WANTED TO ADDRESS IT IN CASE WE HAD SOME OTHER ADMINISTRATIVE WORK WE NEEDED TO DO IN ORDER TO BOLSTER THEIR TO ABSORB THAT. I THINK THAT'S A GOOD POINT. COUNCILMEMBER THANKS AGAIN THAT COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS THEN COUNCILMEMBER NELSON CUSTOM OF RIVAS I I THINK I'M GOING TO ASK THIS SAME QUESTION. EVERYBODY'S ASKING WITHOUT ALL THE FANCY WORDS I SO WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO DO BY BY STREAMLINING THIS WHOLE THING IS AVOIDING THE CITY COUNCIL INVOLVEMENT IN SOME OF THE DECISIONS THAT WE ARE INVOLVED AT THE MOMENT RIGHT NOW PIECES THE VARIATIONS VARIANCES. I MEAN IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO BUILD A SOMETHING COMES TO MIND RIGHT NOW THAT I JUST GOT AN EMAIL THE PERSON TRYING TO HAVE AN EXTENSION OF A BIGGER GARAGE THAN THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF HIS HOUSE. SO WOULDN'T GET INVOLVED IN THAT HE WILL BE JUST LEFT THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S CRITERIA TO DECIDE WHETHER IS ALLOWED OR NOT THE CITY COUNCIL'S INVOLVEMENT RIGHT? YEAH. MAYOR COMES FROM A RIVER SO RIGHT NOW THE COUNCIL IS INVOLVED TYPICALLY THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION IS PUT ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. WHAT THESE CHANGES WOULD PROPOSE IS THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION DECISION IS FINAL BUT FOR UNLESS AN APPEAL IS SUBMITTED BY THE PUBLIC. SO THAT'S THE KEY. ITOES THIS THE SYSTEM DOESN'T REALLY WORK BY YOU KNOW BY YOUR DESCRIPTION OF WANTING TO AVOID THE CITY COUNCIL OR KIND OF DISPENSE WITH THAT PART OF THE REVIEW. IT'S THIS APPEAL MECHANISM THAT REALLY IS ESSENTIAL BECAUSE IT ENSURES THAT THAT PATHWAY IS ALWAYS AVAILABLE TO EVERYONE. WHAT A MIND SET I MEAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG WHAT AM I TO CITIES BASED ON WHAT I BE HEARING IS THAT THE COUNCIL WILL BE COMPLETELY OUT OF THAT IT WILL BE THE PLANNING COMMISSION DECIDING MAKING THOSE DECISIONS FOR FOR THIS SPECIFIC CHANGES. IF A PLANNING COMMISSION DECIDES THAT WHOEVER IS BUILDING BUT WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE LIKE IT SAID I JUST WANTED TO GET TO THE POINT INSTEAD OF GOING AROUND WITH ALL THE TECHNICALITIES IT WILL BE THE PLANNING COMMISSION DECIDING WITH THAT WITH THE POSSIBILITY OF AN APPEAL. OF COURSE BUT ONCE IT'S BEEN DECIDED I MEAN IS THE EXTREME LINE IS THIS THE PURPOSE OF THE STREAMLINING IS TO MAKE THESE MORE EFFECTIVE QUICKER IN OTHER WORDS RIGHT SOMEBODY A PLACE WHERE A PERMIT THEY GET A QUICK DAY THE PLANNING COMMISSION DECIDES WITHOUT HAVING A MEETING WITH US OR A PUBLIC HEARING. RIGHT THIS IS HAD THE PURPOSE THE PLANNING COMMISSION I'M SORRY MAYOR COUNCILMEMBER IS THE PLANNING COMMISSION HOLDS A PUBLIC HEARING AS WELL SO IT'S NOT I MEAN FOR THESE APPLICATIONS THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT LIKE VARIANCES OR CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS, THEY DO HOLD THE PUBLIC HEARING AND I THINK IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO SAY THAT A NUMBER THE LARGEST APPLICATIONS THIS STUDY DOES NOT TALK REZONING OR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENTS OR PLAN DEVELOPMENTS SO PRELIMINARY AND FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLANS MOST OF THE LARGEST DEVELOPMENTS THAT COME THROUGH THE PLANNING OFFICE GO THROUGH THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAVE TO BE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL BECAUSE ONLY THE CITY COUNCIL HAS THE AUTHORITY TO APPROVE THOSE AND THEY'RE REQUIRED TO HOLD A SECOND PUBLIC HEARING. SO THERE'S TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS IN THE CASE OF A REZONING OR COMP PLAN. BUT YES, THIS STUDY DOES INCLUDE RECOMMENDATIONS AROUND SHORTENING THE PROCESS, GRANTING MORE AUTHORITY TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION BUT NOT CIRCUMVENTING THE POSSIBILITY OF CITY COUNCIL REVIEW BY ALLOWING THAT APPEAL PATHWAY. I THINK. COUNCILMEMBER NELSON THANK YOU MAYOR. JUST TO FOLLOW UP SO SOME STUFF I HEARD THE NOTICE REQUIREMENTS FOR A PLANNING COMMISSION HEARING ARE THE AS WHAT THEY WOULD BE FOR A CITY COUNCIL SO THERE WOULD BE THE RADIUS AROUND, THE PROJECT THE POSTING IN THE PAPER IT'S ON OUR WEBSITE SO OF THAT CHANGES PEOPLE WOULD THAT ARE GOING TO BE DIRECTLY IMPACT WILL BE NOTIFIED CORRECT MAYOR THAT'S BECAUSE FOR NELSON THAT'S CORRECT THE BOUNDARY IS THE SAME AND THE PROCEDURE IS THE SAME. OKAY. SECOND QUESTION I HAVE IS WAS THERE ANY CONSIDERING AND IT MAY BE COMPLETELY NOT POSSIBLE OF IF SOMEONE IS LIKELY TO APPEAL JUST A PREEMPTIVE APPEAL AND SKIPPING PLANNING COMMISSION GOING STRAIGHT TO CITY COUNCIL WE ALL YOU KNOW, WENT TO THE SCHOOL PROJECT AND I THINK WE ALL KNEW IT WAS COMING HERE. YOU KNOW, I SEE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT IT BECAUSE OF , YOU KNOW, BUILDING THE RECORD AND WE HAVE TO HAVE THAT RECORD IN ORDER TO MAKE DECISIONS ON AND I KNOW LOT OF THAT IS BUILT THERE BUT FROM STREAMLINING AS WELL AS PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT AND INPUT, YOU KNOW IF THERE WAS A PROJECT THAT WAS LIKE THAT THAT PEOPLE SAID YOU KNOW NOW THIS REALLY SHOULD BE I MEAN IS IT POSSIBLE TO SKIP ONE OF THE MEETINGS JUST PREEMPTIVELY I WELCOME THE CITY ATTORNEY TO CORRECT ME IF SHE THINKS I'M OFF TRACK HERE BUT I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THAT'S PROCEDURALLY POSSIBLE. AND THE REASON IS THAT THEY THEY HAVE TO TAKE A FORMAL ACTION IN ORDER FOR AN APPEAL TO EXIST IN THE FIRST PLACE. THEY CERTAINLY, YOU KNOW, A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC OR STAFF OR THE PLANNING COMMISSION THEMSELVES CAN CERTAINLY FROM A NOTIFICATION STANDPOINT OR A PUBLIC ARE JUST PUBLIC INFORMATION CAN STATE THAT WE INTO SUPPORT THIS ACTION TO BE APPEALED SHORTLY AFTER WE TAKE ACTION BUT I DON'T THINK PROCEDURALLY YOU COULD SKIP ONE OF THOSE BODIES REVIEWS. COUNCIL MEMBER WOMAN THANK YOU . CAN WE GO BACK TO THE QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAD PLACED BECAUSE I WANTED TO COMMENT THOSE SO I CAN GET THIS PART OF IT AND SEE THE CURRENT CURRENTLY. SO I GUESS WHAT I WOULD SAY WITH REGARD ALL OF WHAT'S PLACED BEFORE US HERE IS THAT YOU KNOW THIS IS REALLY A COMPELLING CONVERSATION AND YOU KNOW, KIND OF A TRADE OFF BETWEEN THE ADMINISTRATIVE WORK THAT THIS COUNCIL HAS TRADITIONALLY DONE WITH A GREATER ROLE WITH AROUND THE CONCEPT OR IDEA AROUND DOING MORE POLICY WORK WHICH WOULD GIVE US THAT OPPORTUNITY AS AS A AS A YOU KNOW, AS A AS A COUNCIL TO REALLY KIND LOOK AT SOME OF THOSE HIGHER LEVEL CONSIDERATIONS. AND YOU KNOW, WITH THAT BEING SAID, I DO THINK THERE ARE A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT THAT I AM AS A COUNCIL MEMBER CONCERNED ABOUT. BUT I JUST THINK BECAUSE OF OUR PAST PRACTICE THAT SHOULDN'T GOVERN US TO KIND OF CONTINUE DOING WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING. I THINK THAT YOU KNOW, HEY STAFF HAS BROUGHT FORTH 57 AND I YOU KNOW I THINK THAT YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY I TRUST OUR PLANNING COMMISSION IF THEY SAY JUST DO IT TO 45 TO BE A LITTLE MORE CAUTIOUS BUT WE COULD ALWAYS ROLL BACK SOME OF THOSE THOSE OTHER ITEMS NOW. WELL JUST EXAMPLE I'M A LITTLE NERVOUS ABOUT OUTDOOR PATIOS IN TERMS OF WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE BUT YOU KNOW WHAT? OVER TIME I'VE BEGUN TO UNDERSTAND THAT WE REALLY HAVEN'T HAD THOSE ISSUES AND THE STANDARDS THAT WE'VE KIND OF PUT IN PLACE AND WE CAN MORE LAWS IN THERE TO GET THAT UNDER CONTROL. AND SO MY MY TWO CONCERNS WITH THIS IS I THINK THE CURRENT STRUCTURE OF OUR PLANNING COMMISSION, THE COMPOSITION AND AND I, I YOU KNOW, COUNCILMEMBER LINDA SARNO TALKED ABOUT THIS, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF THEIR THEIR COMPETENCY, THEIR TENURE. THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING I'D WANT TO HAVE A HAVE A LOOK AT IF WE'RE GOING TO GO ALL THE DOWN THIS PROCESS MAYBE WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE DIFFERENT TERMS YOU KNOW THE TRAINING THAT'S THERE. YOU KNOW WHO APPOINTS, HOW WE APPOINT, HOW LONG WAS IT? SO THOSE ARE THINGS WANT I WOULD WANT TO LOOK AT AND THEN THE SECONDARY PIECE THAT IS PROBABLY MORE CONCERNING TO ME IS THE TRANSPARENCY AND THE PUBLIC NOTIFICATION PORTION OF IT. I DON'T AND I'VE HEARD OVER THE YEARS HAD PROBLEMS WITH THAT. SO I'M NOT SAYING WE NEED TO KEEP WHAT WE HAVE TODAY. I'M NOT SAYING THAT AT ALL. BUT I THINK AS WE IF WE LOOK TO GO DOWN THIS PROCESS, I WOULD LOOK TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT A WAY IN WHICH THAT WE CAN ENHANCE THAT NOTIFICATION AND THAT TRANSPARENCY ESPECIALLY ITEMS THAT WOULD BE NOW HOUSED INTERNALLY. YOU KNOW, THERE'S LOTS OF SKEPTICISM OF THE ADMINISTRATIVE STATE THAT'S THAT'S OUT THERE FROM FROM CERTAIN PART OF THE PUBLIC THAT TRUST FACTOR. AND I WOULDN'T WANT US TO TO GET WRAPPED UP INTO SOME OF THOSE ITEMS AND SO I WOULD WANT TO FIGURE OUT NEW NOVEL WAYS OF DOING KIND OF BOTH THINGS AROUND NOTIFICATION AND TRANSPARENCY BUT SAY FOR THOSE TWO THINGS AM I MY MY INITIAL CONCERN ABOUT THE ART OUT OUTSIDE PATIOS WHICH I SUPPORT AND LOVE? I SPEND LOTS OF TIME ON THOSE THINGS IN BLOOMINGTON. I THINK THIS IS A GREAT BOLD NEW PROCESS THAT STAFF HAS PUT FORWARD AND I'M TO EVEN GO AS FAR AS THE 57 TO SEE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. WE CAN ROLL IT BACK. SO I REALLY SUPPORT WHAT STAFF HAS BROUGHT FORWARD I THINK THIS IS KIND OF A YOU KNOW IT'S A IT'S A BRAND NEW DAY BLOOMINGTON AND IF WE WANT TO COMPETE FROM A DEVELOPMENT STANDPOINT WE REALLY NEED TO BE ON THE CUTTING EDGE OF IN TERMS OF HOW WE LOOK AT DEVELOPMENT. AND SO I THINK THIS IS A WAY IN WHICH TO KIND OF KIND OF DO THAT BECAUSE OTHER TWO ITEMS CAN BE ADDRESSED BY BY MAKING THIS CHANGE AND THEN ADDRESSING IT AS WE GO TO MAKE IT A MORE PERFECT POLICY. BUT AS FAR AS WHAT I SEE HERE TODAY, I CAN SUPPORT AND COUNCILMEMBER AND I AGREE WITH YOUR YOUR STATEMENT ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT OUR OUR PLANNING COMMISSION IS UP TO THE TASK AND THEY HAVE BEEN IN THE PAST THEY'RE WELL TRAINED AND THEY DO A VERY GOOD JOB. AND I WILL POINT OUT THAT ANY ITEMS THAT COME BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL IF THERE'S A NEW CITY COUNCIL MEMBER WHO HAS BEEN RECENTLY ELECTED, THEY DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE THAT EXPERIENCE EITHER AND THAT'S WHERE THE EXPERIENCE OF THE REST OF THE BODY AND THE STAFF GUIDANCE AND THE LEARNING CURVE COMES INTO PLAY THERE. SO COUNCILOR ADDITIONAL ADDITIONAL GENERAL QUESTIONS IF YOU WANT TO DIG INTO THE SPECIFICS, WE CAN DIG INTO THE SPECIFICS TO SPECIFIC COUNCILMEMBER NELSON'S READY FOR THE SPECIFICS. COUNCILMEMBER NELSON, THANK YOU. SO LOOKING AT ITEM I THINK IT WAS TO MAKE IT CORRECT AND UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE WERE TWO OPTIONS PRESENTED ONE WAS AN ADMINISTRATIVE PATH AND ONE WAS INCREASING THE AMOUNT OF PROJECTS THAT WOULD GO THROUGH THE ADMINISTRATIVE PATH BUT NOT FULLY TURNING THOSE OVER. SO EVEN IF IT WAS YOU KNOW, MET IF IT WAS OVER THE NEW BUILDINGS WITH GROSS AREA OF 10,000 SQUARE FEET THAT IF IT WAS OVER THAT EVEN IF IT WAS COMPLETELY CODE COMPLIANT WOULD GO TO A PLANNING COMMISSION. OKAY. SO MY ON THAT IS IF IT'S CODE COMPLIANT ADMINISTRATIVELY APPROVE IT. I MEAN WHY WHY GIVE THE FALSE SENSE THAT WE CAN DO ANYTHING DIFFERENT? I MEAN IF IT MEETS CODE THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO BUILD IT. IF THE CODE IS WRONG BRING THAT INFORMATION AND LET'S CONSIDER IT. BUT I'D BE IN FAVOR OF THE FIRST OPTION THAT IT SHOULD BE ADMINISTRATIVELY APPROVED THE MOST SIMPLE THING FOR A CODE COMPLIANT THING BECAUSE THE REALITY IS IT'S GOING TO GET APPROVED. I MEAN AND WE'VE NOT APPROVED THINGS IN THE PAST AND WE GOT OUR HAND SLAPPED BY THE COURTS SAYING YOU CAN'T DO THAT IT MET THE STANDARDS. SO I JUST I DON'T WANT TO GIVE THAT FALSE IMPRESSION TO PEOPLE AND I WANT TO OBVIOUSLY STREAMLINE THINK THAT'S GREAT. SO THAT'S JUST MY OPINION ON THAT ONE. PEOPLE DISAGREE ON THAT. NUMBER FOUR, IS THERE A REASON SO WE WENT FROM WOULD ALSO INCLUDE TWO FAMILY HOMES WHICH ARE BASICALLY YOU KNOW ONE FAMILY TWO FAMILY THOSE HAVE LONG BEEN IN ZONING AS AS THE KIND OF THE SAME TYPE OF STRUCTURE AND BUILDING. IS THERE A REASON THAT IT DIDN'T INCLUDE UP TO FOUR UNITS OR TOWNHOMES OR OTHER ITEMS THAT ARE UNDER THE PURVIEW UNDER STATE LAW OF THE RESIDENTIAL CODE AS OPPOSED TO THE COMMERCIAL BUILDING CODE ? AND WOULD IT BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT EXPANDING THAT TO EVERYTHING BASICALLY COVERED BY THE RESIDENTIAL CODE AS LONG AS IT WAS CODE COMPLIANT THERE'S A RESIDENTIAL CODE THE COMMERCIAL CODE ADDS A TON OF COMPLEXITIES AND DIFFERENCES AND THINGS LIKE THAT AND THAT MAY NOT BE SOMETHING THEY WERE READY FOR TODAY. IT MIGHT BE SOMETHING TO LOOK AT LATER BUT. WAS THERE ANY CONSIDERATION OF THAT? MAYOR COUNCILOR NELSON THERE WAS WE DIDN'T THAT PATH FOR TWO REASONS ONE THAT WE WANTED TO LIMIT OUR RECOMMENDATION AND SCOPE OF STUDY TO KIND OF TWEAKING EXISTING PROCESSES AND TOOLS NOT FUNDAMENTALLY, YOU KNOW, ADDING NEW POLICY ITEMS TO IT. SO THAT'S REASON NUMBER ONE. AND THE SECOND REASON IS WE HAVE ANOTHER PROJECT I'M GOING TO WORKPLAN THIS YEAR MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING THAT'S GOING TO LOOK AT THAT VERY EXACT THING SO IT'S JUST THAT CONVERSATION IS STILL ON THE DOCKET IT'S PLAN TO BE HAD LATER THIS FALL AND INTO THE WINTER AND THAT'S WHERE WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS THOSE USE TYPES. OKAY. SO THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING POSSIBLY THAT WOULD COME BACK LATER TO SAY WE THINK THIS IS WHERE IT SHOULD GO. DEFINITELY. OKAY PERFECT. I'M TOTALLY COMFORTABLE WITH THAT. WAS THERE ANY LOOK AT A GOAL OR A PROCESS BY WHICH WE WOULD REDUCE THE NUMBER OF PADS OR PADS BECAUSE I SEE THOSE ARE USED A LOT BUT I THINK THE DIFFICULTY IN MY MIND TO GETTING THERE IS THAT DEALS A LOT MORE WITH STANDARDS NOT PROCESS AM I CORRECT IN THAT AND WAS THERE ANY DISCUSSION OF HOW TO DO THAT ALSO SEEM LIKE IN ADDITION TO THE TIMELINES THAT YOU PROVIDED THERE'S A LOT OF NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE DEVELOPER IN THAT PROCESS THROUGH WHAT FLEXIBILITIES DO THEY NEED? WHAT IS THE SO YEAH MAYOR COUNCILMEMBER NELSON TO GET TO THAT POINT WHERE YOU AS A CITY WOULD NOT BE PROCESSING ANY PLAN DEVELOPMENT OR SIMILAR TYPE TOOL YOUOULD HAVE TO HAVE A FAIRLY PERMISSIVE ZONING CODE YOU'D HAVE VERY LIMITED STANDARDS. THE BULK STANDARDS WOULD BE VERY PERMISSIVE, THE SETBACKS WOULD BE VERY THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. SO DIRECTIONALLY IS THAT WHERE SOME CITIES ARE GOING MOSTLY VERY URBAN CITIES, YES. BUT THAT BEING SAID, I LOOKED AT TWO THINGS I LOOKED AT I THOUGHT COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN WERE ASKING QUESTION BUT IT'S YOU, COUNCILMEMBER NELSON THAT I LOOKED IN THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS AS PART OF OUR ANNUAL WORK PLAN WE DO REPORTING ON THE APPLICATION TYPES WE GET RIGHT NOW FOR MAJOR DEVELOPMENT TYPES WE'RE RUNNING IT'S NOT THE EQUIVALENT NUMBER EVERY YEAR BUT WE'RE PRETTY 5050 AND FINAL SITE AND BUILDING PLANS AND PLAN DEVELOPMENTS WHICH TELLS ME IS THAT AT LEAST HALF ARE ABLE TO PROCEED THROUGH OUR CODE COMPLIANT PROCESS. LOOKING AT THE BIGGER PICTURE, THE SECOND THING IS NOT AT THIS MAYBE THIS IS MY OWN PERSONAL DRUM I'M GOING TO BANG RIGHT NOW BUT IT'S NOT THAT THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT PROCESS ITSELF IS FLAT LIKE FLAWED OR HAS TO BE COMPLETELY IS HOW CITIES USE THE TOOL THAT I THINK NEEDS TO HAVE MORE RIGOROUS STUDY OR SCRUTINY ON THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT PROCESS SHOULD BE A MEANS TO LOOK AT FLEXIBILITY IF THAT FLEXIBILITY CAN PROVE A PUBLIC BENEFIT. I PERSONALLY DON'T THINK IT SHOULD BE A MEANS FOR CITIES TO KIND OF PUT DEVELOPMENT OVER YOU KNOW, TO EXTRACT TO THINK THAT IT'S OPEN NEGOTIATION THAT YOU'RE GOING TO GIVE US ALL THESE THINGS THAT AREN'T IN THE CODE THAT'S . JUST I JUST EXERCISE A LITTLE PERSONAL IT'S NOT JUST YOU JUDGMENT THERE AND SO AND I APPRECIATE THAT AND I'VE HEARD VERY POSITIVE ABOUT THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON BUT I ALSO AM VERY AWARE THAT OTHER CITIES USE IT IN THE NEGATIVE WAYS THAT YOU TALK ABOUT AND THEY YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE ALSO AND SLAP BY THE COURTS FOR THAT WITH IMPLICATIONS TO OTHER CITIES. MY LAST QUESTION IS WAS THERE ANY CONSIDERATION HAVE YOU SEEN ANYWHERE THAT INSTEAD OF TAKING THIS APPROACH WHERE YOU HAVE USES AND STANDARDS OF JUST HAVING STANDARDS REGARDLESS OF THE USE YOU KNOW THIS IS HOW FAR YOU HAVE TO BE AWAY FROM RESIDENTIAL WITH THIS LEVEL OF LIGHT OR THIS NOISE OR ODOR OR HAZARDOUS MATERIALS AND JUST ARE THE STANDARD AND IT DOESN'T MATTER USE I DON'T CARE IF YOU'RE GOING TO BUILD AN INDUSTRIAL PLANT OR, IF YOU'RE GOING TO YOU KNOW BUILD A RESTAURANT YOU TO MEET ALL THESE STANDARDS I MEAN AND JUST SIMPLIFY IT PEOPLE CAN GO THROUGH YOU KNOW MAKE THIS MUCH MORE SIMPLE AND IT'S PROBABLY NOT THAT EASY BUT WELL KNOW MAYOR CASPER NELSON WE DO DO THAT IN SOME INSTANCES WE HAVE A LIGHTING ORDINANCE THAT SAYS THAT YOUR LIGHT LEVELS HAVE TO BE LOW ADJOINING PROPERTY LINES ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL. SO WE DO DO THAT IN EFFECT IN CERTAIN WAYS. WE HAVE A DRIVE THROUGH STANDARDS THAT SAY IT HAS TO BE SPACED ACCORDING TO RESIDENTIAL. SO WE DO HAVE STANDARDS THAT DEAL WITH THESE SPECIFIC ELEMENTS OF THE NOT JUST THE UNDERLYING FUNDAMENTAL USE BECAUSE DRIVE THRUS HAPPEN AT MULTIPLE DIFFERENT USE. THEY HAPPEN AT BANKS, THEY HAPPEN AT RESTAURANTS, THEY HAPPEN AT OTHER THINGS. SO BUT YES, USE BASE STANDARD STANDARDS ARE VERY EFFECTIVE. THERE ARE SOME CHARACTERISTICS THAT ARE VERY FUNDAMENTAL TO CERTAIN USES THAT DON'T APPLY TO OTHER USES THESE PAT IT YOU KNOW WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING PATIOS WHERE PEOPLE CONGREGATE OUTSIDE THOSE TEND TO BE NOISIER THAN OTHER FORMS OF CONGREGATE OUTSIDE AND TEND TO HAPPEN AT NIGHT SOMETIMES SO YOU KNOW AND PLUS I THINK YOU WANT TO USE THOSE TOOLS IN LIMITED THAT SOLVE THE PROBLEM YOU DON'T WANT TO APPLY IT ACROSS THE BOARD TO EVERY SINGLE LAND USE WHEREIN IN THERE'S JUST NO DOCUMENTED PROBLEM THAT THANK YOU FOR THE GOOD ANSWER APPRECIATE COUNSEL ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS JUST I HAVE A COUPLE OF JUST ON GENERAL QUESTIONS ON AND WITH THE STREAMLINING I'M ASSUMING THERE'S BEEN A STUDY DONE ON WHAT THE REVENUE IMPACT WILL BE IF WE HAVE FEWER STEPS IN THE PROCESS, WILL THERE BE YOU KNOW, FEWER COSTS ASSOCIATED WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE AIMING FOR, WHAT IT WILL BE UNDERSTANDING OF COURSE WE DON'T DO THIS MAKE MONEY BUT THERE WILL BE I MEAN IT IS PART OF THE BUDGET AND IT IS PART OF THE WORK THAT GOES ON. MAYOR, THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION. IT IS A GOOD QUESTION WE HAVEN'T DONE A FORMAL STUDY OF THE REVENUE IMPACTS. I THINK THAT THEY ARE QUITE COMPLEX ON THE BASIS THAT IS THERE POTENTIAL SUBTRACTION IN THE AMOUNT OF STAFF TIME IT TAKES TO PROCESS AN APPLICATION WHEN YOU'RE NOT ATTENDING MULTIPLE PUBLIC HEARINGS FOR EXAMPLE BUT AT THE SAME TIME IS THERE POTENTIAL LOST REVENUE AND LESSER APPLICATION FEES ASSOCIATED WITH SOME OF THESE THINGS AND THEN THAT SETTING ALL THE STUFF ASIDE FOR THE REALLY BIG AND DIFFICULT QUESTION IS DOES THIS PROJECT HAVE THE POTENTIAL UNLEASH ADDITIONAL ECONOMIC ACTIVITY OR HOUSING PRODUCTION WHICH HAS VERY IMPORTANT IMPACTS ON LOCAL REVENUE AS WELL? SO I THINK THAT COULD BE DONE. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WOULD NEED SOME MORE SMARTER PEOPLE THAN PLANNERS TO DO THAT ANALYSIS BUT YEAH, IT'S AN INTERESTING QUESTION FOR SURE. THANK YOU. I'M WELL SOMETHING TO CONSIDER AND THINK ABOUT AND THE OTHER THAT I JUST JOTTED DOWN AND I HAVEN'T FULLY FORMED THE QUESTION AS TO HOW IT MIGHT IMPACT THE OPPORTUNITY HOUSING AUDIENCE AND I'M ASSUMING YOU'VE HAD THAT DISCUSSION INTO YOUR INTERNALLY HOW THE CARROTS AND STICKS WORK TOGETHER WITH DEVELOPERS AND WORK TOGETHER WITH THE STREAMLINED PROCESS AS IT RELATES TO THE OPPORTUNITY HOUSING ORDINANCE. YEAH. MAYOR SO RIGHT NOW I DON'T THINK THERE'S SIGNIFICANT IMPACTS TO THE EXISTING OPPORTUNITY ORDINANCE AS PROPOSED WITH THESE RECOMMENDATIONS. AND THE REASON I SAY THAT IS IF YOU WERE TO GO TO FULL ADMINISTRATIVE SITE PLAN REVIEW AS COUNCILMEMBER NELSON THAT WOULD BE A SIGNIFICANT STREAMLINING AND PROJECTS THAT ARE SUBJECT TO OPPORTUNITY HOUSING. BUT RIGHT NOW UNDER THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION OF EXPANDED ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVAL AUTHORITY MOST PROJECTS ARE TO BE SUBJECT TO THE ORDINANCE. YOU HAVE TO HAVE 20 UNITS AND SO MOST PROJECTS ARE GOING TO EXCEED THAT THRESHOLD OF WHAT IS BEING CONTEMPLATED IN THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION. OKAY THANK YOU COUNSEL. ARE THERE ANY MORE DIG IN SPECIFIC KIND OF QUESTIONS OTHERWISE I WANT TO GO THROUGH I MEAN JUST THESE KEY QUESTIONS AND THIS OF IS A STUDY SESSION AND THIS ISN'T THE FINAL VOTE ONE WAY OR ANOTHER BUT GENERALLY DO WE CONCUR WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDATIONS ON ALL THE SUBPROJECTS FOR THE MOST PART ANY THAT STAND OUT COUNCILMEMBER NELSON YEAH I'D STILL ADVOCATE FOR OPTION ONE FOR NUMBER TWO THE BUT MEETS THE CONDITIONS LET IT BE ADMINISTRATIVELY VERY GOOD THANK YOU . ANY ADDITIONAL YOU WANT TO WEIGH FROM THE QUESTIONS YOU WANTED ANSWERED WELL MET MERIT WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST IS IF THE BODY IS GENERALLY SUPPORTIVE OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDATIONS I CAN TAKE THAT FEEDBACK AND THAT CAN FUEL FUNNEL INTO THE PLANNING COMMISSION I'M SORRY INTO THE SUBSEQUENT ORDINANCE THAT WE WILL WRITE BUT IF THERE IS A DEVIATION AS THINK COUNCILMEMBER NELSON IS PROPOSING HERE, WHAT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO STAFF IS TO GET DIRECTION EITHER VIA SOME KIND OF DISCUSSION OR HAND POLL OR SHOW OF HANDS TO POINT US IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. THAT SPECIFIC QUESTION. UNDERSTOOD. SO IN 20 WORDS OR LESS COUNCILMEMBER NELSON, WHAT SPECIFICALLY AND THEN SPECIFICALLY ARE YOU LOOKING AT ARE YOU CONCERNED WITH WHO WOULD LIKE TO SEE A CHANGE WITHIN THE WE CAN DO A QUICK POLL HERE I WOULD EXPAND THE PLANNING MANAGER STAFF APPROVAL AUTHORITY FOR US FASB PIECE OF PROJECTS THAT MEET CODE STANDARDS EVERYBODY UNDERSTAND THAT I MEAN DO THEY MAKE OUT CODE COMPLIANT? THEY'RE CODE COMPLIANT. GIVE IT IF THEY'RE GOLD COMPLIANT IRRESPECTIVE SIZE I HAVE ONE CLARIFYING QUESTION FOR THAT IF I MAY, MR. MAYOR, DOES THAT SOUNDS REASONABLE ME IF WE LOOK AT LIKE WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE AS OUR RIGHT QUOTE CODE COMPLIANCE, THE QUESTION IS WE HAVE OTHER THINGS IN HERE THAT ARE WE'RE ALSO GOING BE PROVIDING DIRECTION ON THAT ACTIVELY CHANGES THE CODE COMPLIANCE QUESTION FOR CERTAIN USERS AND I SO IT'S KIND OF HARD FOR ME TO SAY YEAH WE SHOULD JUST GIVE ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVAL TO ALL OF THESE USES WHEN WE HAVEN'T SEEN THE USES CHANGED YET AND WE DON'T KNOW LIKE THE SOME BODY OF THE USES THAT WERE ACTUALLY REFERRING THAT TO INCLUDING THAT WE MAY HAVE CODE COMPLIANCE CHANGES THAT COME FROM WORK THAT THE PLANNING IS DOING LATER IN THIS YEAR. SO IT DOESN'T BOTHER ME TO CONSIDER I GENERALLY AGREE WITH THE THEORY LIKE IF IT'S CODE COMPLIANT IT'S IT'S THE APPEALS PROCESS IS SILLY JUST BECAUSE LIKE EVENTUALLY WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO OR WE'RE GOING TO GET IN TROUBLE. SO I GET ALL OF THAT IT'S JUST THAT THERE'S A THAT IS A MOVING TARGET RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THE OTHER REQUESTED CHANGES THAT WE'RE CONSIDERING SO MAYBE MAYBE THAT NEEDS TO BE REPACKAGED IN SUCH A WAY THAT WE CAN SAY LIKE YEP WE AGREE THAT WE SHOULD GIVE ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVAL TO CO COMPLIANT PROJECTS AND BY THE WAY THESE ARE ALL THE THINGS THAT ARE CHANGING ABOUT CODE COMPLIANCE SO WE UNDERSTAND THE BODY OF WORK WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHEN WE SAY YES TO IT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S DOABLE. MR. JOHNSON IS THAT CAN YOU FINESSE THAT IN SUCH A WAY? WELL MARRON COMES FROM EL CENTRO. THANK YOU FOR THOSE POINTS. I JUST WANT TO AND I'M NOT TRYING TO STEER YOU IN ANY EITHER ONE DIRECTION IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE ULTIMATELY AS A STAFF RECOMMENDATION FAVORED THE EXPANSION AS OPPOSED TO THE FULL ADMIN AND I CAN EXPLAIN WHY THAT AND THERE WAS YOU KNOW THERE WAS DISAGREEMENT OR HEALTHY DEBATE AMONG STAFF ABOUT THAT IT WASN'T A CLEAR ALL ONE DIRECTION OR THE OTHER BUT THERE WAS GOOD DISCUSSION BE HAD BUT THE POINT IS IS THAT SOMETHING THERE'S NOT WITHOUT COST IN EITHER DIRECTION YOU CHOOSE TO GO ONE POINT I WILL MAKE HOPEFULLY PROVIDES A LITTLE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT I HAVEN'T PROVIDED AS THAT ADMINISTRATIVE FINAL SITE AND BUILDING PLANS CURRENTLY CAN ONLY BE APPEALED BY THE APPLICANT ACCORDING TO OUR CITY CODE NOT BY A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC, NOT BY ANOTHER BODY, NOT BY THAT. AND THE REASON BEING IS THAT THERE IS NO PUBLIC NOTIFICATION ASSOCIATED. SO ULTIMATELY TYPICALLY THE PUBLIC IS NOT IN A POSTURE OR POSITION UNLESS THEY ARE TRACKING A SITE SO CLOSELY THAT THEY ARE CALLING OUR DEPARTMENT EVERY SINGLE DAY AND CHECKING OUR CITY VIEW PORTAL WHICH IS PUBLIC BY THE WAY TO THE POINT ABOUT TRANSPARENCY AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS ARE RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE ONLINE AND WE HAVE A DEVELOPMENT MAP THAT WE HOST EVERY TIME SOMEONE APPLIES WE PUT PROJECTS ON OUR DEVELOPMENT MAP THAT MEET A CERTAIN SIZE THRESHOLD AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO DO THAT AND WE CAN EXPAND DURING THAT BUT THERE'S NO FORMAL PUBLIC NOTIFICATION GIVEN IN TERMS OF A MAILED NOTICE. I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR ABOUT THAT FOR ADMINISTRATIVE APPLICATIONS. SO THAT'S LOST. WHAT'S GAINED IS THE FACT YOU'RE SAVING A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TIME AND MONEY FOR THAT ULTIMATELY MEET CODE . AND IF I DIDN'T SAY THAT CLEARLY BEFORE I WILL SAY IT AGAIN. STAFF CAN'T APPROVE APPLICATIONS THAT DON'T MEET CODE . THAT'S WHY A VARIANCE EXISTS. THAT'S MY PLAN. DEVELOPMENTS EXIST STAFF HAS NO AUTHORITY TO DO THAT AND IT WOULD BE ILLEGAL FOR US DO THAT. IT MAKES SENSE. DOES IT? AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS HELPS OR NOT THAT'S WHY WE KIND OF AND THERE WAS MORE OF THESE IN THE EXHIBIT I DIDN'T PRINT IT BUT IN YOUR PACKET THERE WAS MORE OF MORE PROJECTS EXAMPLES OF PROJECTS AND I THINK JUST I DON'T KNOW IF IT GUIDES YOU OR NOT BUT JUST THINKING ABOUT SCALE AND PART OF MOST OF ME DISAGREES WITH YOUR PERSPECTIVE ABOUT IF IT MEETS CODE BUT I THINK IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE FACT THAT THERE COULD BE SOME QUITE LARGE, YOU KNOW, DEVELOPMENTS GET APPROVED IN THAT MANNER. AND I SAID THIS BEFORE BUT FINAL SITE BUILDING PLANNING APPLICATIONS DO ARE BUNDLED WITH REZONING OR OTHER REQUIREMENTS TOO AND THEN IT'S THEN IT ISN'T ADMINISTRATIVE ANYWAY YOU SLICE IT SO BUT THERE'S A COUPLE MORE DATA POINTS TO THINK SO JUST IN GENERAL LET'S GET THIS MOVEMENT A LITTLE BIT IF WE COULD COUNCILMEMBER SO COUNCILMEMBER NELSON IS IS AS LONG IS SUGGESTING THAT AS LONG AS A PROJECT IS CALLED COMPLIANT MOVES ON IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY WE DON'T HAVE TO PASS HERE COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO BRINGING UP SOME CONCERNS I THINK MR. JOHNSON FOR SOME STAFF CONCERNS AS WELL SO JUST KIND OF A GENERAL THUMBS UP OR THUMBS DOWN FROM FOLKS AS TO COUNCILMEMBER NELSON'S THOUGHTS ON THIS THUMBS UP OR THUMBS DOWN? SO I'M OKAY WITH THE I'M OKAY WITH THAT WITH THE PROPOSAL. I THINK LIKE I SAID, I THINK THAT THERE'S PROBABLY SOME CONDITIONS I WILL WANT TO PUT ON IT LATER BUT LET'S GO THAT WAY AND THEN COME BACK DOWN LIKE YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? MAYBE MAYBE A CERTAIN SIZE LIMIT FOR EXAMPLE LIKE IF IT'S OVER A CERTAIN SIZE MAYBE WE SHOULDN'T IT HAPPEN OR SOMETHING JUST BECAUSE WE WON'T WE WOULD WANT PUBLIC INTEREST POTENTIALLY TO BE CONSIDERED THAT KIND OF THING UNDERSTOOD. COUNCILMEMBER NELSON, THE MAYOR IF I MIGHT I'M ACTUALLY VERY COMFORTABLE WITH THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THEM AS WELL. I JUST WOULD GO FURTHER THAN THAT AND THIS MIGHT BE A VERY GOOD STEP AND JUST SOMETHING FOR STAFF KEEP IN THE BACK OF THEIR MIND THAT IT MAY BE A CHANGE THAT CAN BE MADE IN THE FUTURE. HOPEFULLY NOT 15 YEARS IN THE FUTURE BUT YOU KNOW IN THE FUTURE SOME POINT THE OTHER THING AND AGAIN I DON'T WANT TO TAKE US ON A TANGENT BECAUSE IT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT BUT WE SHOULD TAKE A LOOK AT THE NOTIFICATION ON I KNOW A LOT OF MUNICIPALITIES ARE REQUIRE SOMEONE TO PUT A SIGN THAT THIS IS SUBJECT TO A PLANNING APPROVAL COMING IN OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT THEY PUT A SIGN RIGHT ON THE SITE SO PEOPLE DRIVING BY THERE SEE THAT THIS IS HAPPENING AGAIN DON'T TAKE US ON A TANGENT. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT BUT WE SHOULD LOOK AT THOSE NOTIFICATIONS EVEN ON ADMINISTRATIVE ONES. SHOULD WE BE DOING SOMETHING THAN THAT AND WE MAY ALREADY HAVE SOME OF THAT STUFF HERE JUST IT'S SOMETHING IMPORTANT BECAUSE EVEN EXPANDING THE SIZE OF THESE YOU KNOW, THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME PEOPLE THAT HAVE SOME INPUT AND YOU KNOW, EVEN NOW WITH ALL THE NOTIFICATIONS WE HEAR FROM THAT LIKE I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THIS AND SO YOU JUST ALWAYS LOOK AT WHAT WE CAN DO TO BE TO BE FAIR. MR. AUBREY THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. I WOULD JUST RESPOND TO THE COMMENTS FROM COUNCILMEMBER NELSON THAT YOU KNOW, TRYING THIS RATE AND SEE HOW PLAYS OUT AS OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE SAID AS WELL AND I I'VE HEARD A COUPLE DIFFERENT COUNCIL MEMBERS COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN INDICATED COMFORT LEVEL WITH 57 AS OPPOSED TO THE 45 RATE. AND SO I THINK IN THIS SPIRIT OF WE CAN DO SOMETHING WE CAN SEE HOW IT FITS AND THEN WE CAN AMEND AS WE GO. I I THINK THAT WE'RE OPEN TO WORKING WITH THE COUNCIL TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN SO IF IF EVERYBODY'S COMFORTABLE WITH THAT I THAT WE CAN PROCEED IN THAT WAY BUT I DID I DIDN'T WANT TO LOSE SIGHT OF WHAT COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN SAID TOO ABOUT 57 VERSUS THE 45 AND I'M SEEING A DEFINITE SPLIT. BUT I THINK MAYBE UNLESS THERE'S STRONG OPPOSITION I THINK MAYBE COUNCIL COUNCIL MEMBER NELSON'S IDEA TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IT AND AT LEAST CONSIDER IT AND AS WE HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND AS WE HAVE THE THE FURTHER DISCUSSION IT AS IT COMES UP IN THE FUTURE AS WE LOOK THESE WE CAN ALWAYS REVISIT THIS CONVERSATION AND RIGHT. COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO YES. MR.. WERE THERE A COUPLE OF OTHER QUESTIONS IN THERE LIKE THE ONES THE THREE THAT THEY HAD THAT THEY WERE NOT IN AGREEMENT ON? WE WANT TO WEIGH IN ON THOSE AS WELL. I WOULD LIKE THAT. YES. AND THOSE THREE WERE CEMETERIES, ROOFTOP OR OUTDOOR PATIOS AND THEN CONGREGATE LIVING FACILITIES. YEAH. AND FRANKLY I DIDN'T KNOW CEMETERIES WERE AN ISSUE. I DIDN'T KNOW THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT ADDITIONAL CEMETERIES IN BLOOMINGTON BUT MAYOR THAT MAY HAVE HELPED US AND THAT MAY HAVE INFORMED THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION TO MAKE IT A PERMITTED USE AND WE HAVE TWO CEMETERIES IN TOWN AND WE'RE NOT GETTING CALLS FOR POTENTIAL OF THOSE USES RIGHT NOW CEMETERIES MUST BE A MINIMUM OF TEN ACRES IN SIZE BUT THEY ARE A USE IN THE R-1 DISTRICT AND CURRENTLY THEY'RE DESIGNATED AS CONDITIONAL. SO BASED ON THAT MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT THAT MANY R-1 SITES EXCEPT FOR INSTITUTIONAL SITES AND THE LIKE ARE TEN ACRES IN SIZE. SO WE DIDN'T HAVE CONCERN ABOUT SOMEONE ESTABLISHING A NEW CEMETERY ON THAT BASIS AND WE THINK IT WOULD JUST MAKE THE PROCESS EASIER FOR THE EXISTING CEMETERIES THAT DO EXIST TO MAKE ANY POTENTIAL CHANGES AT THEIR SITES. IT'S A LOW WATTAGE. IT'S NOT A IT'S NOT A CRITICAL ONE EITHER WAY BUT THEY FLAGGED IT. YEAH. SO BECAUSE WE BROUGHT IT UP COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO THOUGHTS OR IDEAS ON YET OFTEN OTHER PATIOS AND OR CONGREGANT LIVING FACILITIES? YEP AND I THINK I HAVE A DEFINITION OF CONGREGATE LIVING FACILITIES ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT ARE GROUP HOMES RIGHT. SO I THINK I I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED CANDIDLY THAT WE CALL THOSE CITY CITY CITY LICENSED WHEN THEY'RE NOT THERE PERMITTED BY THE CITY BUT THEY'RE NOT LICENSED BY THE CITY IF I UNDERSTAND IT CORRECTLY I HAVE MORE PROBLEMS WITH THE LICENSING AND THE ENFORCEMENT OF PROPER HANDLING OF THOSE IN THE LICENSE THAN I DO IN PERMITTING THEM. SO I GUESS I, I WOULD SAY GO AHEAD AND THOSE AS PERMITTED USES AS WELL AS THE CEMETERY I THINK THE WE'RE A LITTLE NASCENT AS IT GOES WITH THE WITH THE ROOFTOPS AND STUFF LIKE THAT AND I'M A I THINK WE PROBABLY COULD SHOULD LEAVE THOSE AS CONDITIONAL USE FOR NOW AND WE CAN WE CAN WORK THROUGH SOME OF THAT MAYBE WE CAN READDRESS THAT LATER. SO THAT'S MY OPINION ON THOSE THREE. SO THOUGHTS ON THAT WE APPROVED ONE TONIGHT SO COUNCILMEMBER NELSON YEAH. MY ONLY THOUGHT ON THAT IS JUST IN GENERAL AS WE CHANGE WE SHOULD INCLUDE AS PART OF THAT PROCESS TO LOOK AT WHETHER NOT IT SHOULD THEN GO TO BE IN A PERMITTED USE. SO IF WE CHANGE STANDARDS ABOUT THESE OPEN ROOFTOP SPACES AND THINGS LIKE THAT, WE TIGHTEN THOSE. MAKE SURE PART OF THAT PROCESS IS TO SAY HEY, WE'D RECOMMEND NOW IT AS PERMITTED USE. WE THINK WE GOT THE RIGHT WE GOT THE RIGHT APPROACH WHEN YOU HAVE A NEWER USE WHERE WE DO HAVE CONFUSION WHERE WE'RE STILL TO WORK THINGS OUT, KEEP IT CONDITIONAL MAKES SENSE TO ME RIGHT NOW CONCURRENT THERE WITH THAT COUNCIL MAYOR IF I MAY JUST PROVIDE A LITTLE MORE CLARIFICATION ON CONGREGATE LIVING IS THAT THIS IS THE LARGER FACILITIES IT'S NOT THE GROUP HOMES AND LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS THE ONE THIS USE ACTUALLY IS EQUIVALENT TO MULTIFAMILY BASICALLY IS ONLY ALLOWED IN MULTIFAMILY DISTRICTS AND I'M SORRY I DON'T MEAN TO STOP THE MOMENTUM THAT JUST OCCURRED RIGHT THERE BUT IF I CAN JUST PROVIDE A LITTLE MORE EXPLANATION ABOUT THE PATIOS RIGHT NOW WHAT STAFF IS TRYING TO DO TO MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT EASIER FOR SMALLER RESTAURANTS TO SIDEWALK CAFES BASICALLY RIGHT NOW IF YOU HAVE A LARGE ROOFTOP PATIO OR IF YOU HAVE A FIVE SEAT OUTDOOR DINING, IT'S IN OUR CODE . AND SO IF NOT MADE A FULL PERMITTED USE AND WE THINK THAT THERE ARE SOME STANDARDS THAT YOU COULD THAT WOULD ADDRESS SOME OF THE NOISE OR NUISANCE CONCERNS. WE THINK AT MINIMUM EITHER SEPARATING ROOFTOP FROM AT GRADE AS DIFFERENT OR IF YOU WANTED TO GO EVEN FURTHER YOU COULD SAY OUTDOOR DINING LESS THAN A CERTAIN NUMBER WHICH THERE'S LESS POTENTIAL FOR NUISANCE. I DON'T WANT TO SIDETRACK THE DISCUSSION. THAT'S JUST THE CONSENSUS THAT WAS JUST REACHED BUT I JUST WONDERED I DIDN'T SAY THAT BEFORE. EXPLAIN WHY WHY WE THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO DO SOMETHING AND I APPRECIATE THE CONTEXT AND IT DID SOUNDTRACK THINGS A BIT BUT DO THINK IT'S AN IMPORTANT DISTINCTION TO BE MADE AND I THINK I'VE SEEN THE HEADS I THINK THE THE STAFF OR THE COUNCIL IS CONCURRENCE WITH STAFF THAT THEY'RE NOT THE SAME. I MEAN A A A RESTAURANT WITH FOUR TABLES OUTSIDE IS DIFFERENT THAN A THAN A BAR AND A ROOFTOP. MM HMM. SO DO YOU HAVE SO SIMILAR I THINK I MEAN AS AN ALTERNATIVE OPTION IF THE BODY WAS NOT COMFORTABLE DESIGNATING THE FULL GROUPING AS PERMITTED, THEY WANTED TO RETAIN SOME LEVEL OF CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR THAT USE GENERALLY COULD SEPARATE ROOFTOP FROM JUST GENERAL OUTDOOR DINING OR WE COULD ESTABLISH OR YOU COULD GIVE US GENERAL DIRECTION TO ESTABLISH A SCALE AT WHICH IT KICKS INTO A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT. I WOULD I WOULD VOTE FOR B THERE SO WE CAN HAVE THAT CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT THAT SCALE MIGHT BE AND WHERE WE MIGHT WANT TO START MAKING DISTINCTIONS. I THINK THAT WOULD SENSE. ALL RIGHT . SO TO CLARIFY, WE WOULD BRING SOMETHING IN THE ORDINANCE PLEASE. YES. THAT MIRROR THAT DIRECTION AND IT COULD BE AMENDED OR VISITED AT THAT POINT. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS UNANSWERED OR DIRECTION? I JUST MAYBE I'M DENSE BUT I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THERE WAS DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT TO WITH FINAL SITE PLAN FINAL SITE AND BUILDING PLAN REVIEW AND MAYBE I WAS UNCLEAR ON WHERE THE FINAL DIRECTION LANDED ON WHETHER TO FOLLOW PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION SO WHICH IS EXPANDING THE EXISTING AUTHORITY OR JUST PURSUING FULL ADMINISTRATIVE PLAN REVIEW? I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT ONE POINT I WAS HEARING THIS GROUP THAT THE FULL ADMINISTRATIVE YES THE THE THE FULL ADMINISTRATIVE SITE PLAN REVIEW I MEAN THAT'S WHAT I WAS THAT'S WHAT I WAS HEARING FROM THE GROUP AM I CORRECT IN THAT ON THE PERMITTED USES OR IN GENERAL ON THE PERMITTED USES IS WHAT I UNDERSTOOD AND BECAUSE THERE AS PERMITTED USES AS MR. JOHNSON SAID STAFF CAN APPROVE ANYTHING THAT'S PERMITTED USE SO IT'S RIGHT FOR ME TO USE CODE COMPLIANT PERMITTED THAT KIND OF LIKE I SAID MY ONLY CONCERN WAS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE MAKING A LOT OF CHANGES TO THE NOTION CONDITIONAL USE VERSUS PERMITTED USE AND IT MAY GET LOST IN THE SHUFFLE. WHAT WE'VE PUT OVER THERE IN THAT PILE THAT THEN GETS ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW AND THEN TO COUNCILMEMBER NELSON'S GOOD POINT LET'S MAKE SURE WE TAKE A LOOK AT THE NOTICE AND OR SOME OTHER CREATIVE WAYS THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE WE MAINTAIN TRANSPARENCY THE PUBLIC YEAH BUT OTHERWISE I THINK THAT'S RIGHT AT LEAST FROM MY PERSPECTIVE WOULD AGREE AND COUNCILMEMBER NELSON ALL THE SOCIAL MEDIA IN THE WORLD BUT PUT A SIGN OUT AND PUT PUT ANOTHER FENCE SOMEWHERE AND YOU'LL GET MORE ATTENTION. I REMEMBER THE FORMER MAYOR RECOMMENDED A BULLDOZER THERE TO ITS SIDE AND MR. JOHNSON, DO YOU HAVE ENOUGH TO WORK WITH BELIEVE? I DO. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. WELL, THANK YOU. THAT ONE AND YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GO ANYWHERE. THAT'S ITEM 5.2. UNFORTUNATE FOR YOU. THIS IS OUR SECOND STUDY ITEM OF THE EVENING. THIS REGARDING SINGLE ROOM OCCUPANCY OR CO LIVING STANDARDS DO YOU NEED A CHANCE TO HAVE A CHANCE TO YOUR BREATH AND TAKE A DRINK? NO, I'M OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MAYOR MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. SO THE SECOND STUDY ITEM AND I APPRECIATE THE DILIGENT DISCUSSION ON THE LAST ITEM THANK YOU HAS TO DO WITH SINGLE ROOM OCCUPANCY AND CO-LIVING JUST BY WAY OF BACKGROUND AND THE COUNCIL AND PLANNING COMMISSION PREVIOUSLY DID PRETTY EXTENSIVE STUDY SESSION ABOUT THE POTENTIAL FOR USE CONVERSION SPECIFICALLY HOTEL AND OFFICE TO RESIDENTIAL AND SO NOT NOT THAT THIS IS THE SAME CONTENT BUT I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT THIS IN A WAY BUILDS OFF SOME OF THAT CONTACT BECAUSE I THINK THAT REALLY GOT THIS CONVERSATION STARTED IN A WAY. SO I DO WANT TO POINT TO THAT BUT AGAIN THIS IS ALSO A PROJECT ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION WORK PLAN AND SIMILAR JUST AGENDA SLIDE HERE OF WHAT I'LL I'LL TALK ABOUT WHAT SINGLE ROOM OCCUPANCY AND CO-LIVING IS AND WHAT IT ISN'T AND WHY SHOULD CITIES CONSIDER EXPANDING ALLOWANCES FOR IT AND TALK ABOUT WHAT OUR EXISTING CODE SPEAKS TO IT AND AGAIN TRYING SOLICIT SOME DIRECTION FROM YOU ON SOME SPECIFIC AMENDMENTS. SO WHAT IS EZRA'S OR CO-LIVING I WOULD JUST START BY SAYING SINGLE ROOM OCCUPANCY IS STARTING TO BE CONSIDERED AN OUT OF DATE TERM OR A LESS PREFERRED FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT TYPE. MORE CITIES ARE GOING TOWARDS AND I SHOULD SAY IS DRIVEN BY THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY MORE ARE USING THE TERM CO-LIVING OR CO-HOUSING I THINK THEY'RE TRYING TO AVOID ASSOCIATION WITH PREVIOUS GENERATIONS THIS USE TYPE BECAUSE FRANKLY THEY'RE VERY DIFFERENT. THESE USES CAN HIGHLY MONETIZED, THEY CAN LOOK VERY DIFFERENT AND THEY CAN HAVE DIFFERENT USE CHARACTERISTICS THAN A BOARDING SAY THAT WAS BUILT YOU KNOW, 60, 80 YEARS AGO WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE BUT JUST FROM A YOU FUNCTIONAL DEFINITION STANDPOINT WHAT IS IT? IT'S BEDROOMS THAT ARE RENTED AS INDIVIDUAL. IT'S THERE INHERENTLY MORE AFFORDABLE THAN TYPICALLY MULTIFAMILY JUST ON THE BASIS WHEN YOU'RE RENTING INDIVIDUAL BEDROOMS YOU'RE STILL YOU'RE CONSTRUCTING ONE KITCHEN FOR EXAMPLE FOR THESE UNITS SOME CO-LIVING HAVE BATHROOMS IN UNITS, SOME DO NOT. I MEAN THAT'S ANOTHER HUGE POTENTIAL COST SAVINGS BUT SPEAK TO THE DIFFERENT LEVELS THAT MAY EXIST IN THE MARKET RIGHT NOW THESE USES DO HAVE THERE IS SOME APPLICATION OF USE CONVERSION TO CO-LIVING OR CO-HOUSING AS A ROSE HOTEL IS THE MOST OBVIOUS CANDIDATE FOR BUT FROM A BLOOMINGTON CONTEXT AND I'LL SPEAK TO THAT SECOND YOU KNOW OFFICE JUST WITH THE CURRENT COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE DYNAMICS OFFICE IN THE FUTURE MIGHT BE A CANDIDATE FOR THAT ASSUMING SOME ROUGH PATCHES WITH THE BUILDING AND FIRE CODES CAN OVER TIME BE SMOOTH OVER NEWER I SAID THIS ALREADY BUT CO-LIVING DEVELOPMENTS CAN HAVE SIGNIFICANT AMENITIES THAT'S IT CAN LOOK A WIDE SCALE OF OUTCOMES THESE HOUSING TYPES ARE NOT SIGNIFICANTLY PRESENT THE TWIN CITIES REGION YET THEY ARE MORE COMMON IN THE MOST EXPENSIVE HOUSING MARKETS IN THE COUNTRY. THINK OF THE BIGGEST CITIES IN THE UNITED STATES. CHICAGO HAS A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF THEM. THE COASTAL CITIES OBVIOUSLY ARE VERY EXPENSIVE HOUSING MARKETS SO YOU START TO SEE THIS USE AN APPETITE FOR THIS USE INCREASE WITH MORE EXPENSIVE HOUSING MARKETS THERE IS LITTLE INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATIONS ARE UNIQUE TO COMMUNITIES UNIVERSITY TOWNS FOR EXAMPLE CAN SEE MORE OF THIS JUST ON THE BASIS OF TRYING TO FIND MORE AFFORDABLE FOR YOUNGER RESIDENTS FOR EXAMPLE. SO THE SCALE AND SIZE OF CO-LIVING CAN VARY GREATLY. THIS IS THE ONE THAT MAYBE I DIDN'T THINK ABOUT AS MUCH AT THE BEGINNING OF THE STUDY THAT I LEARNED MORE ABOUT AS I WENT. BUT JUST FOR THE PURPOSES OF CLARIFICATION, THE STUDY THAT WAS WILL BE PRESENTED TO YOU AND THE INFORMATION IN THE PACKET FOCUSED ON HOUSING WITHOUT SERVICES SO TALKED ABOUT GROUP HOMES OR RESIDENTIAL CARE FACILITIES OR CONGREGATE LIVING THAT IS A SRO FIT CURRENTLY IN THE UMBRELLA OF CONGREGATE LIVING IN OUR ZONING CODE BUT FOR THE PURPOSES OF THIS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HOUSING WITHOUT SERVICES NOT WITH SERVICES SOME LOCAL EXAMPLES THIS IS A DEVELOPMENT THAT'S SET TO BEGIN IN AUGUST THAT CAME TO OUR ATTENTION. IT'S CALLED THE LITTLE MOD. THE REASON I BRING THIS TO YOUR ATTENTION IS A THE SCALE IS QUITE SMALL JUST FROM IT'S NOT WHAT YOU WOULD THINK OF FOR AN SRO DEVELOPMENT BUT JUST FROM A REGULATORY STANDPOINT IT'S KIND OF INTERESTING AND WE'LL AND WILL BE AN IMPORTANT DISCUSSION POINT FOR TONIGHT IS THAT THERE IS SOME ABILITY TO TO CREATE CO-LIVING WITHIN LOWER DENSITY RESIDENTIAL USES OR STRUCTURES JUST SIMPLY BY ABIDING BY THE OCCUPANCY REQUIREMENTS OF WHATEVER CITIES REQUIRE. SO EVERY CITY ESTABLISHES A LIMIT ON THE NUMBER OF UNRELATED OR OTHER FORMS OF RELATIONSHIP ADULTS THAT CAN RESIDE WITHIN A DWELLING. THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT IN SAINT PAUL NOT APPROVED AS A CO-LIVING DEVELOPMENT. IT'S APPROVED AS A AS A DUPLEX ,AS A TWO FAMILY DWELLING AND THE OCCUPANCY REQUIREMENT IN SAINT PAUL SIX ADULTS AND MINOR CHILDREN IN THEIR CARE SO THAT'S HOW YOU GET TO 12 BEDROOMS INTO DWELLINGS SO I THOUGHT THAT WAS JUST A GOOD EXAMPLE JUST FROM A PERSPECTIVE OF SOMETHING LOWER IN SCALE RATIO APARTMENTS WAS BUILT IN COLUMBIA HEIGHTS IN 2022. UM THIS IS MIXED WITH TYPICAL MARKET RATE MULTIFAMILY AND IT'S A VERY SMALL PERCENTAGE THEIR UNITS THIS IS OVER A 250 UNIT BUILDING ONLY TEN OF THEIR UNITS ARE CURRENTLY CO-HOUSING OR CO-LIVING BUT I SPOKE WITH THE DEVELOPER THEY'RE REALLY APPRECIATIVE OF THE FLEXIBILITY TO MOVE UNITS BACK AND FORTH TO THIS ARRANGEMENT ON THE BASIS OF WHAT THE DEMAND IS AND IT ALLOWS THEM TO KIND OF HAVE GREATER FLEXIBILITY BUILT UP WITHIN TO THEIR PROJECT. THE MAIN REASON THAT PEOPLE ARE LOOKING AT THIS IS BECAUSE AFFORDABILITY IS A BIG DEAL AND YOU KNOW THE STUDIO APARTMENTS IN THIS BUILDING TYPICALLY COST SOMEWHERE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF 1500 TO 1600 DOLLARS, 7000 DOLLARS. THEY'RE RENTING SOME OF THESE UNITS THESE THESE BEDROOM SUITES AT UNDER $1,000. SO THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT COST SAVINGS IN THE RENT AND I MENTIONED AMENITIES. THIS IS A HIGHLY MONETIZED PROJECT IF YOU LOOK IT UP IN COLUMBIA HEIGHTS IT'S A VERY TRANSIT RICH AREA WHICH I THINK HELPS WITH SOME OF THE PARKING BUT THE FLOOR PLAN IS KIND OF INTERESTING. SO EACH UNIT HAS ITS OWN BATHROOM. THE ONLY THING THAT THEY SHARE IS JUST SOME COMMON SPACE AND THE KITCHEN FACILITIES WITHIN THESE CO-LIVING SUITES. SO THAT'S IN COLUMBIA HEIGHTS A LATTICE WAS THE DEVELOPER OF THAT PROJECT. SO WHY WHY IS THIS RELEVANT TO BLOOMINGTON? SO A DEMOGRAPHICS. BLOOMINGTON IS THE FOURTH OLDEST CITY IN THE TWIN CITIES. THERE'S A LOT OF CONSIDERATION TO BE PAID FOR CO-LIVING OR CO-HOUSING FOR OLDER RESIDENTS WITH RESPECT TO AFFORDABILITY IS OBVIOUSLY VERY IMPORTANT BUT THERE'S ALSO BEEN SOME DISCUSSION AROUND HOW CO-LIVING YOU KNOW WHETHER IT BE A LOW DENSITY ENVIRONMENT OR A HIGHER DENSITY ENVIRONMENT COULD ACTUALLY BE A GOOD FIT FOR SOME OLDER RESIDENTS TO HELP COMBAT SOCIALIZED SOCIAL ISOLATION. AS RESIDENTS GET OLDER SOMETIMES THEY TEND TO GET A LITTLE FURTHER AWAY FROM FAMILY SOME OF THESE LIVING ENVIRONMENTS, ESPECIALLY WITH FRIENDS OR KNOWN ACQUAINTANCES CAN BE A REALLY GOOD OUTCOME FOR SOME OF THOSE FOLKS REDUCE OR CONVERSION OPPORTUNITIES AS I'VE TALKED ABOUT THERE IS A LOT OF PRESSURE INTEREST ON THE BLOOMINGTON'S HOTEL MARKET WHEN THE PANDEMIC OCCURRED THIS PRESSURE HAS SINCE KIND OF RECEDED AND HOTEL THE OCCUPANCY LEVEL HOTELS IS CLOSE TO BACK TO PRE-PANDEMIC LEVELS THAT'S NEWS . AND SO WE THINK WHERE THERE'S COULD BE POTENTIAL OR MAYBE SOME IS PROBABLY IN CLASS C OFFICE TYPE SPACE IN BLOOMINGTON WITH KIND OF THE CONSOLIDATION AND THE MOVEMENT THAT'S HAPPENING AROUND BUSINESSES REDUCING THEIR FOOTPRINT IN TERMS OF THE AMOUNT OF OFFICE SPACE THAT THEY HAVE, THERE'S KIND OF A BIG SHUFFLING THAT'S OCCURRING FROM TALKING TO THE CITY ASSESSOR. SO WHAT ULTIMATELY MIGHT RESULT IN IS SOME CLASS C OFFICE NO LONGER BEING OCCUPIED COULD BE A CONVERSION OPPORTUNITY OR IT COULD BE A SCRAPE AND REBUILD AND OBVIOUSLY IT WOULD WANT TO DEPEND ON, YOU KNOW, IT BEING A GOOD SITE FOR RESIDENTIAL STUDENT HOUSING BLOOMINGTON HAS FOUR POST-SECONDARY EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTIONS NOT MOST OF THE STUDENTS WHO ATTEND THOSE SCHOOLS DO COMMUTE. SO WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE DEMAND WE DON'T ANTICIPATE IT WOULD BE A SIGNIFICANT DEMAND BUT PARTICULARLY NORMAN DALE IT WOULD PROBABLY BE BENEFICIAL TO BE ABLE TO CONSTRUCT SOME TYPE OF STUDENT HOUSING IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO THAT AND IT WOULD BE GOOD FOR STUDENTS. SO YOU COULD ENVISION WHERE IN A YOU KNOW IN A LOWER DENSITY ENVIRONMENT AROUND CLOSE TO ARMIDALE MAYBE SOME CO-HOUSING WOULD BE BENEFICIAL IN A MODEST SCALE PROXIMITY TO THE AIRPORT. SO IT'S ONE OF THE ISSUES ONE OF THE WAYS THIS ISSUE COMES TO THE FOREFRONT AS WE KEPT HEARING ABOUT CRASH PADS, CRASH PADS AND YOU KNOW WE DON'T I DON'T I HAVEN'T FOUND MAYBE SOMEONE ELSE HAS THE STATS THAT I'M NOT AWARE OF BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE WHO ARE EMPLOYED THE AIRPORT RESIDE IN BLOOMINGTON BUT WE DO GET THE SENSE THAT THERE IS SOME DEMAND THAT CO-LIVING WOULD BE A GOOD SOLUTION FOR WHO ARE OUT OF TOWN TEN DAYS A MONTH OR 15 DAYS A MONTH AS PART OF THEIR JOB. MAYBE THEY DON'T NEED A FULL APARTMENT OF THEMSELVES, MAYBE A CO-LIVING SOLUTION CLOSER MSP INTERNATIONAL WOULD BE A DESIRED OUTCOME AND FINALLY WHY ARE WE LOOKING AT THIS? THE HENNEPIN COUNTY DID A BROAD STUDY ABOUT IT AND 21 MANY OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT THAT TASK FORCE MADE KIND OF ARE REFLECTED IN THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF IS PRESENTING TO YOU TONIGHT. JUST ON THIS POINT OF I KIND OF GLOSSED OVER THAT ONE FORGIVE ME BUT I GOT A SLIGHT SLIDE DEDICATED TO IT. THE REASON THAT PEOPLE ARE INTERESTED IN CO-LIVING OR CO-HOUSING IS HAS THE ABILITY TO DELIVER MORE AFFORDABILITY AND IN SOME INSTANCES WITH LESS OR NO SUBSIDY DEPENDING ON THE AMENITIES OR THE FINISHES OF THE HOUSING. SO THIS IS A REMINDER THAT WHILE THE OPPORTUNITY HOUSING ORDINANCE HAS BEEN SUCCESSFUL AT DELIVERING 60 AND 50% ARMY UNITS, IT'S STILL TREMENDOUSLY HARD OR VERY DIFFICULT TO DELIVER ON THE DEEPLY AFFORDABLE UNITS 30% AMI I DON'T WANT TO REPRESENT AS EARLS OR CO-LIVING AS A MAGIC BULLET TO THAT EFFECT IT'S STILL VERY HARD TO DELIVER 30% IN MY UNITS BUT I THINK IT WOULD GIVE CITIES OR IS COUNTY NONPROFIT ACTORS MORE TOOLS IN THE TOOLBOX TO LOOK AT HOW TO CREATE THAT AND MAYBE IT MAKE MORE SENSE IN A USE CONVERSION SITUATION THEORETICALLY. SO JUST A POINT ON THE NUMBERS AGAIN I NEED TO GET INTO GREAT DETAIL ABOUT THIS BUT THE BIG POINT IS THAT WE DON'T HAVE A USE IN OUR ZONING CODE THAT ALIGNS WELL WITH CO-HOUSING OR CO-LIVING OR SRO IS RIGHT NOW WE HAVE CONGREGANT LIVING WHICH INCLUDES A VERY BROAD UMBRELLA OF KIND OF JOINT HOUSING WITH OR WITHOUT SERVICES AND WITH SOME SHARED FACILITIES INCLUDES A WIDE VARIETY OF THINGS. WE HAVE DORMITORIES, DORMITORY BUT OBVIOUSLY THAT'S LIMITED TO A COLLEGE OR UNIVERSITY SETTING SO IS A LITTLE BIT OF A GAP IN OUR CODE RIGHT NOW CONGREGATE LIVING IS CONDITIONAL IN HIGHER DENSITY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS BUT FOR THE MOST PART IT'S NOT ALLOWED IN OUR COMMERCIAL ZONING. WE'LL SEE WHAT STREAMLINING DOES WITH THAT TO POTENTIALLY CHANGE THAT. BUT ONE OF THE WAYS IN THIS WAS IN THE COUNTY TASK FORCE REPORT ONE OF THE WAYS TO POTENTIALLY ALLOW FOR MORE CONVERSIONS OR TO MAKE IT MORE FEASIBLE TO BUILD THIS TYPE OF HOUSING IS TO MAKE IT PERMITTED OR ALLOWED IN COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS. NOW IT'S NOT ALLOWED MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL IS ALLOWED IN OUR COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICTS SO LONG AS YOU BUILD A MINIMUM AMOUNT OF COMMERCIAL FLOOR AREA THE CODE COULD BE VERY EASILY CHANGED TO HAVE THAT SAME ALLOWANCE OR THAT PATHWAY FOR CO-LIVING OR CO-HOUSING AND DORMITORIES ARE CONDITIONAL AND ARE ONE AGAIN THAT'S NOT REALLY RELEVANT JUST WITH THE SPECIFIC NATURE OF THAT. WE DO HAVE TWO STANDARDS FOR CONGREGATE LIVING AND WE DO HAVE FEW STANDARDS FOR INSTITUTIONAL USES ALTHOUGH THAT INSTITUTIONAL STANDARDS MORE APPLY TO THE HOUSING WITH SERVICES. SO GETTING TO ANOTHER KIND OF A KEY NUTS AND BOLTS ISSUE AT LEAST AT LEAST FROM ONE MEMBER THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY WHO SPOKE TO ME ABOUT THIS IS THAT IF YOU WANT TO ENABLE CO-LIVING OR CO-HOUSING IT'S RAISE YOUR RESIDENTIAL OCCUPANCY REQUIREMENT. MOST CITIES ARE ABOUT WHERE BLOOMINGTON IS. THIS IS OUR DEFINITION OF A FAMILY ONE DWELLING CAN BE OCCUPIED BY A FAMILY AND THEY HAVE BE IT'S ONE OR MORE PERSONS RELATED BY BLOOD MARRIAGE ADOPTION YOU KNOW OTHER LEGAL CONSIDERATIONS OBVIOUSLY THAT WOULD MAKE ONE A FAMILY OR IT IS FOR UNRELATED ADULTS ONE ANECDOTE THAT ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH SHARED WITH ME WHICH INTERESTING OR KIND OF PUTS A BROADER EASIER POINT ON THE MATTER IS THAT YOU'RE SIX BROTHERS AND SISTERS YOU CAN LIVE TOGETHER IN BLOOMINGTON IF YOU'RE IN A GROUP HOME SIX PEOPLE CAN LIVE TOGETHER IF YOU'RE NOT ONE OF THOSE THINGS YOU ARE LIMITED TO FOUR THERE IS NOT A TON BUT ANECDOTAL ALL UNDERSTANDING AND EXPERIENCES WITH RENTAL PROPERTIES IN BLOOMINGTON THAT DON'T JUST RENT THEIR WHOLE HOUSE THEY RENT UNITS TO RUMOR OR SUBSUB LEASE UNITS. THIS IS LEGAL AND IT COMPLETELY COMPLIES WITH ZONING. CURRENTLY. SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT LIKELY SHOULD BE DONE IN THE AIR CODE EXCUSE ME JUST AS A FUNCTIONAL IMPROVEMENT AS A CLARIFICATION IS TO ALERT THE PUBLIC CLARIFY THAT CO-HOUSING CO-LIVING IS ALLOWED IN OTHER RESIDENTIAL DWELLING TYPES SO LONG AS YOU COMPLY WITH OCCUPANCY REQUIREMENTS. SO THIS DEVELOPER SAID YOU WANT TO ENABLE CO-HOUSING THEN RAISE YOUR OCCUPANCY REQUIREMENT AS I MENTIONED SAINT PAUL SAINT PAUL WENT UP TO SIX SIX ADULTS AND CHILDREN IN THEIR CARE. WE CAN DO MORE RESEARCH ABOUT OTHER CITIES AND WE CAN DELIVER THAT TO YOU. I THINK ANECDOTALLY MOST CITIES ARE WHERE BLOOMINGTON IS RIGHT NOW. THIS IS ALSO BEEN RAISED AS AN EQUITY ISSUE. CERTAINLY THE OF HUMAN RELATIONSHIPS ARE COMPLEX AND NOT ALWAYS JUST DEFINED BY WHATEVER LEGAL STATUS YOU HAVE AND I WOULD NOTE THAT WE DID DO SOME AMENDMENTS TO THE RENTAL HOUSING CODE THIS ISSUE IN 2021 OR 2022 I BELIEVE IT WAS. AND SO THIS WOULD ALMOST LIKE A SECOND PHASE OF THAT WORK IN EFFECT IF DIRECTED TO DO SO AND DO THAT RESEARCH. SO THE FIRST QUESTION THAT WE POSED TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND POSED TO YOU IS YOU KNOW, DOES THE CITY WANT TO SUPPORT OR ENABLE MORE AND LARGER US OR SRO OR CO-LIVING DEVELOPMENTS IF YES THERE'S MULTIPLE ACTIONS CAN BE TAKEN PUTTING A MORE SPECIFIC POINT TO IT THESE ARE KIND OF THE SIX AREAS THAT WE SEE AS YOU KNOW, BUILDING OUT OR GROWING THE REGULATORY ENVIRONMENT AND ALLOWANCES FOR CO-HOUSING AS AROSE ONE IS CLARIFY THE STATUS WITHIN THE CODE I JUST MENTIONED THAT INCREASE THE OCCUPANCY LIMITATIONS CREATE A SPECIFIC USE AND CODE BECAUSE THIS USE COULD THEORETICALLY BE CREATED IN LOW DENSITY ENVIRONMENTS ALREADY WE THINK THAT THE USE SPECIFIC SHOULD APPLY TO LARGER CO-LIVING OR CO-HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS WHERE THERE'S KIND OF MORE IMPACT IF YOU WILL ALLOW THESE USE TYPES IN COMMERCIAL ZONING JUST AS COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICTS FORGIVE ME EQUIVALENT TO MULTIFAMILY AND THEN CREATE NEW STANDARDS. YOU KNOW WE NEW STANDARDS FOR MULTIFAMILY WE HAVE NEW STANDARDS FOR A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT THINGS DIFFERENT POTENTIAL STANDARDS COULD BE REQUIRING A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF COMMON SPACE PER BEDROOM OR YOU COULD THEORETICALLY INCENTIVIZE RESTROOM FACILITIES AND WITHIN UNITS THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT WELL THAT'S THE NEXT ITEM BUT YOU COULD INCENTIVIZE CERTAIN THINGS YOU COULD CREATE SOMEWHAT LESSER PARKING STANDARDS FOR THIS USE IF IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO ROBUST TRANSIT LOCATIONS FOR EXAMPLE. AND THEN FINALLY THE MAYOR'S POINT EARLIER ON THE SHOW IS THAT IF YOU DO CREATE A CO-LIVING CO-HOUSING USE THERE WOULD NEED TO BE SOME WORK DONE WITH OUR PORT HRA STAFF WHO MANAGE THE OPPORTUNITY HOUSING ORDINANCE TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS INCORPORATED IN WELL WELL ALIGNED WITH THE INCENTIVES THAT ALREADY EXIST FOR MULTIFAMILY. SO THOSE ARE THE SIX THINGS WE SEE AS THE PLANNING DIVISION STAFF AND IN CONSULTATION WITH OTHER MEMBERS OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND ELSEWHERE IN CITY OF BLOOMINGTON. BUT YEAH WOULD BE HAPPY TO TAKE YOUR QUESTIONS AND FEEDBACK ABOUT THIS TOPIC. THANK YOU MR.. JOHNSON COUNCIL QUESTIONS AND OR FEEDBACK CAN WE CAN DOVE RIGHT INTO THE WHOLE THING. COUNCILMEMBER CARTER THANK MAYOR SO I'VE SEEN THIS PRESENTATION BEFORE BECAUSE WE'VE GOT IT ON THE HRA SO I DON'T HAVE VERY MANY QUESTIONS. I JUST WANTED TO MY SUPPORT I THINK THIS MAKES A LOT OF SENSE. IT GIVES THE MARKET OPTION FOR HOUSING AND WE HEAR OFTEN ABOUT ISSUES RELATED TO AFFORDABILITY RIGHT? WE HEAR WE HAVE YOUNG PEOPLE WHO COME IN WHO SAY HEY, I GREW UP HERE AND I CAN'T AFFORD TO STAY HERE AND I REALLY WANT TO WE HAVE SENIORS WHO WANT TO LEAVE THEIR, YOU KNOW, SINGLE FAMILY HOMES BUT THEY DON'T WANT TO LEAVE BLOOMINGTON AND THEY DON'T HAVE A LOT OF OPTIONS. AND SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT THIS AGAIN GIVES DEVELOPERS IT GIVES THE MARKET ANOTHER OPTION FOR DEVELOPING HOUSING IN BLOOMINGTON AND SO AS I LINK THROUGH OR AS I RUN THROUGH THIS LIST I GUESS I WOULD SAY THUMBS UP TO ALL OF THEM AND I THINK IT JUST MAKES SENSE WITH THE DIRECTION WE'RE GOING IN WITH OUR STRATEGIC PLAN AND WHAT WE'VE LAID OUT AS PRIORITIES OVER THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS. COUNCILMEMBER NELSON AND THEN COUNCILMEMBER COUNCILMEMBER NELSON YEAH. THANKS MAN. I G A QUICK QUESTION IN TERMS OF HOW SRO IS IN IN RESIDENTIAL HOUSE RELATE TO AN 80 U WHICH I KNOW IS NOT HAS NOT BEEN SOMETHING THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE DONE BUT IS AN OPTION IF YOU WANT TO GO BEYOND THE FOUR PEOPLES MY UNDERSTANDING BUT YOU HAVE A LOT MORE WORK TO DO SO DESCRIBE THAT FOR ME. YEAH MAYOR COUNCILMEMBER NELSON I DON'T HAVE THE STANDARDS FORGIVE I MIGHT GET THIS WRONG BUT I'M SURE I'M RIGHT IS THAT WE USED TO HAVE A OCCUPANCY REQUIREMENT FOR THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT COULD BE IN AN 80 YOU AND I THINK WE GOT RID OF THAT AND NOW WE HAVE A MAXIMUM NUMBER OF BEDROOMS THAT CAN BE IN AN 82 IT'S TWO TWO BEDROOMS SO ASSUMING THEY WERE JUST COMPLYING IT'S A DWELLING SO IT WOULD JUST BE SUBJECT TO THE SAME OCCUPANCY REQUIREMENTS AS A SINGLE FAMILY HOME EFFECTIVELY SO LIKE TWO BEDROOMS MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE THE MAIN THE PRINCIPAL FAMILY THAT WAS LIVING THERE ON MY HOUSE, YOU KNOW YOU COULD BE A FAMILY OF FOUR YOU KNOW GOT TWO KIDS AND YOU COULD RENT TO, YOU KNOW, A FAMILY OF THREE THAT WAS IN THE BASEMENT BUT THE 80 YOU REQUIRED SEPARATE ENTRANCE, SEPARATE KITCHEN, BATHROOM, ALL OF THAT THIS WOULD ACTUALLY ALLOW RIGHT NOW TO RENT OUT YOUR BEDROOM SOMEBODY ELSE BUT YOU CAN'T EXCEED FOUR PEOPLE TOTAL. SO IF YOU'RE A FAMILY OF FOUR YOU CAN'T RENT OUT THE BEDROOM TO YOUR BROTHER IN LAW OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. OKAY. BUT EVEN THOUGH THEIR FAMILY THE MAYOR, YOUR FRIEND, YOU'RE THE BEST MAN IN YOUR WEDDING NOT YOUR BROTHER IN LAW, BEST FRIEND IN YOUR WEDDING IS NOT WELCOME. NO. OKAY GOOD. GLAD TO KNOW LET ALONE NO. SO IN GENERAL AND THE OTHER ONES I'M SUPPORTIVE THE ONLY SMALL APPREHENSION I HAVE IT'S SOMETHING ONE OF OUR PRINCIPLES IN THE SHOW IS INTEGRATION AND A LARGER SCALE OF THESE PROJECTS TO HAVE THESE TO HAVE THAT MANY UNITS AT WHAT I IMAGINE TO BE AFFORDABLE TO DEEPLY AFFORDABLE IS A LOT OF CONCENTRATION. AND SO YOU KNOW THE EXAMPLE THAT GAVE WHERE THAT WAS THIS WAS PART OF THE BUILDING AND THEN WERE OTHER UNITS IT WAS HIGHLY AMENITIES THAT TYPE OF APPROACH MORE SENSE THE CHALLENGE THERE THAT I UNDERSTAND FROM TALKING TO FOLKS IN THE BUSINESS IS THE SERVICES SIDE IS IT'S HARD TO THEN PROVIDE THE SERVICES THERE THERE'S SOME BALANCES THERE I DON'T HAVE THE ANSWER TO THAT BUT THAT THAT INTEGRATION COMPONENT TO ME IS IMPORTANT TO MAINTAIN COUNCILMEMBER AND THEN CULTURAL ELEMENT THEME HERE I'M A LITTLE TORN BETWEEN THIS AROSE BECAUSE WE'VE FOCUSED A LOT AND ONE PORTION OF THE HOUSING SPECTRUM AND I WOULD LOVE TO SEE MORE FOCUS ON OTHER PARTS OF THE HOUSING SPECTRUM ESPECIALLY THE HOME OWNERSHIP PIECE OF IT AND THIS CONTINUES TO SUPPORT THE RENTAL PIECE THAT'S PART OF THE HOUSING CONTINUUM. BUT LITERALLY TWO WEEKS AGO WE WENT TO MY WIFE'S GRANDMA'S 96TH BIRTHDAY AND WE HAD A CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS AND SHE SAID WHEN I WAS A KID AND THIRTIES MY MOTHER HAD BOARDING HOUSE BECAUSE IT WAS TWO BLOCKS AWAY FROM THE TRAIN STOP AND GUYS WHO DIDN'T HAVE WORK WOULD COME MOW THE GRASS AND THEY WOULD LIVE A ROOM AND THAT PROVIDED HER MOTHER WITH AN OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE INCOME FOR THEIR FAMILY BUT ALSO GIVE PEOPLE AN OPPORTUNITY TO LIVE IN SOMETHING THAT'S AFFORDABLE . AND SO I UNDERSTAND AND SEE THE ADVANTAGES OF THIS ARE I THINK WE CAN DO MORE TO ALLOW PEOPLE WITHIN THE COMMUNITY TO CREATE THOSE OPPORTUNITIES TO CREATE INCOME AND BUSINESSES AND THEIR OWN. BUT I ALSO THINK THIS CONTINUES SUPPORT ONLY ONE SPECTRUM OF THE HOUSING CONTINUUM AND I WANT TO SEE US CONTINUE TO OR GET INTO MORE OF THE OTHER OPPORTUNITIES SO IT'S KIND OF A UP IN THE AIR ANSWER NOT MUCH CLARITY. I'M DEFINITELY WILLING TO HEAR IT OUT AND SEE WHAT WE CAN COME UP WITH ESTIMATES TO SEE IF IT MAKES SENSE RIGHT NOW OR IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT MIGHT BE BETTER OFF FOR US AS THE CITY GROWS AND CHANGES IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF DECADES LET'S REMEMBER WOMAN THEN COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO CUSTOMER DEVELOPMENT THANK YOU MAYOR SO AS YOU LOOK AT THIS IT LOOKS PRETTY PRETTY PLAIN IN TERMS OF THE RECOMMENDATION THAT'S COMING BEFORE US. THERE'S A LOT OF SUPPORT AROUND DOING ALL THESE ITEMS BUT I GUESS WHERE MY MY CONCERN LIES IS AGAIN AROUND THIS IS INTEGRATION AND THE CONCENTRATION OF POVERTY. I WANT TO BE CERTAIN THAT WE'RE NOT WE'RE NOT THAT AS WE GET READY TO DO THESE TYPES OF THINGS I JUST THINK FROM A FROM ELEMENTAL STANDPOINT ESPECIALLY WHEN WE TALK ABOUT YOU KNOW, THE OWNERSHIP BEING A LITTLE MORE YOU KNOW, BASED ON RENTAL IT DOES YOU KNOW, CREATE THAT THAT SITUATION AND THEN WHEN YOU ALSO CREATE THAT YOU SOMETIMES CREATE AN UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES IN OUR OWN PROPERTY VALUES AND SO I WOULD BE REALLY INTERESTED TO SEE HOW WE CONTROL FOR FOR THOSE THAT ARE THOSE THOSE FACTORS AS IT RELATES TO THAT I REMEMBER WHEN WE HAD THE CRASH PAD THAT CAME BEFORE US A GENERATION AGO AND JUST HOW QUICKLY WE SHUT THAT THING DOWN AND THERE WAS VARIOUS TYPES OF REASONS WHY WHY WE DID THAT AND WE WEREN'T COMFORTABLE WITH THAT. I MEAN TO ME AT THE TIME I'M GOING WELL YOU KNOW YOU KNOW I GOT THE AIRPORT RIGHT THERE IT KIND OF MAKES SENSE AND THERE WAS IT WAS A COUPLE OF US WERE CONSIDERING IT BUT YOU KNOW, THIS COUNCIL DIDN'T DIDN'T GO FOR THAT. SO I'M INTERESTED TO KIND OF HAVE MORE OF A REVIEW OF SOME OF THOSE OTHER ELEMENTS OF COME FORTH. THE OTHER CONCERN I HAVE IS AROUND YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S BEEN ANYTHING AROUND SEX TRAFFICKING OR ANY OF THOSE ELEMENTS THAT THIS OPENS US UP TO IN TERMS OF HOW THAT HOW THOSE ARE CONTROLLED FOR, YOU KNOW, ONE IF THERE'S A CONCERN AROUND THAT AND TO YOU KNOW IS THERE A WAY TO KIND OF , YOU KNOW, PREVENT THAT OR YOU KNOW, MAYBE I'M JUST YOU KNOW, I DO AGREE WITH MY OTHER COUNCILMEMBER COLLEAGUE AROUND ,YOU KNOW I MEAN I WOULDN'T STOP THIS DEFINITELY SHOULD MOVE THIS FORWARD IN MY OPINION SAVE F THOSE THINGS I'M CONCERNED ABOUT. BUT OWNERSHIP NEEDS TO BE SOMETHING THAT WE KIND OF LOOK AT. I THINK THAT THAT IDEA OF YOU KNOW, WE TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, AS OUR DEMOGRAPHIC SHIFT CHANGE WE REALLY NEED TO KEEP THAT OWNERSHIP PIECE IN FRONT OF US HAVING AN OPPORTUNITY TO OWN A PORTION OF BLOOMINGTON I THINK IS AN IMPORTANT STAKE IN THE FUTURE OF OUR COMMUNITY AND IT IS IT'S GENERATIONAL WIDE IN TERMS OF OF THAT SCOPE AND I THINK THAT THAT IMPORTANCE IS SOMETHING WE REALLY NEED TO KIND OF MOVE FORWARD. MAYOR AND I HOPE THAT WE CAN KIND OF GET TO THAT AND THERE'S A NUMBER OF US COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE BEEN REALLY PUSHING FOR THAT AND I HOPE WE GET TO THAT. COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. SO I'M A I'M OF SIMILAR MIND REGARDING WHAT YOU'VE ASKED FOR HERE. I THINK THAT ULTIMATELY THESE THESE ARE THE RIGHT AREAS TO REJIGGER, IF YOU WILL, IN ORDER TO CREATE THE OPPORTUNITIES HERE I THINK FOR ME AND I THINK ABOUT LIKE IF I'M ON 84TH STREET I'M RIGHT ACROSS FROM NORTHWEST SCIENCES UNIVERSITY FOR EXAMPLE THERE A LOT OF SMALLER HOMES RIGHT THERE THAT RENT ROOMS AND YOU KNOW IF IF THE FOLKS AT NORTHWEST SCIENCES UNIVERSITY WANTED TO ACTUALLY BUILD A FACILITY LIKE THIS BECAUSE THEY HAVE THE LAND FOR IT MAYBE, THOSE PEOPLE WOULD MOVE OVER THERE AND WE COULD ACTUALLY GET SOME OWNERSHIP HOUSING BACK THAT NEIGHBORHOOD WHICH WOULD APPEAL TO A LOT OF PEOPLE. SO I YOU KNOW, WE ALSO HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THIS AT THE AT AT THE LEVEL WHERE, YOU KNOW, ARE WE ARE WE PROVIDING IF SOMEBODY HAS TO PAY FOR A STUDIO TODAY AT 1200 DOLLARS OR 1500 DOLLARS AND THEY COULD PAY $1,000 AND THEY COULD TAKE THAT $500 A MONTH AND SAVE IT FOR A DOWN PAYMENT A HOUSE THAT COULD BE A GOOD THING. RIGHT. AND SO IT IT MATTERS THAT WE ARE THINKING ABOUT ALL OF THESE OPTIONS AND HOW WE MOVE THEM ON THE ON THE CHESSBOARD HERE. HOME OWNERSHIP IS CERTAINLY VERY IMPORTANT AND I I'M FRUSTRATED AS EVERYBODY ELSE IS THAT WE CAN'T GET CONDOS BUILT BECAUSE CONDOS ARE THE NUMBER WAY THAT MOST PEOPLE BUY THEIR THEIR FIRST HOME IN EVERY PLACE I'VE EVER LIVED I'VE BOUGHT A HOUSE MY FIRST HOUSE IN AUSTIN WAS A CONDO MY FIRST HOUSE IN SAN FRANCISCO WAS A CONDO MY FIRST HOUSE HERE WAS A CONDO. IT'S WHAT PEOPLE DO AND WE DON'T HAVE ANY BLOOMINGTON THAT ARE READILY AVAILABLE AND THEY'RE NOT BEING BUILT AND SO I DON'T THINK THIS CONFLICTS WITH THAT. I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING WE NEED TO DO TO GIVE PEOPLE AFFORDABLE OPTIONS IF MARKET RATE FOR AN SRO IS $800 WE'RE GOING TO HIT THAT THRESHOLD FOR 30% AMI ANYWAY AND AND THAT MIGHT BE REGARDLESS OF WHETHER WE CALL IT DEEPLY AFFORDABLE OR MARKET RATE. SO I THINK WE CAN DO THIS BUT I YOU KNOW, I NOTHING MY OPINION THAT WE HAVE DONE IN THE LAST TWO YEARS ON HOUSING HAS GOTTEN US THE ABILITY TO GET CONDOS BUILT IN THE CITY AND IT IS THE MOST FRUSTRATING ASPECT OF THE WORK THAT WE DO AND IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ANY OF US THAT LIKE HERE RIGHT NOW. RIGHT. IT'S JUST SO VERY FRUSTRATING AND SO I APPEAL TO ANYBODY WATCHING THIS RIGHT NOW TO SAY WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE MOVE THE PIECES ON THE CHESSBOARD BUT PLEASE COME BUILD SOME FRICKIN CONDOS PLEASE LIKE TAKE THE RISK BECAUSE I THINK WE'LL WE'LL SUPPORT YOU THANKS . THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER COUNCIL I JUST HAVE A QUICK QUESTION AT THE VERY LEAST RELATED TO THIS BUT ARE THERE ANY PLANS SINCE THIS WILL INCREASE POPULATION OBVIOUSLY. RIGHT. I'M NOT AGAINST IT. I MEAN EVEN IF IF WE CAN'T HELP PEOPLE YOU KNOW HAVE A I LIVE IN A ROOF OVER THEIR HEADS I GUESS IS IS SUCH A GOOD THING BUT I'M CURIOUS TO KNOW SINCE THIS WOULD INCREASE THE DENSITY OF THE POPULATION IN SPECIFIC AREAS ARE YOU MAKING ANY PLANS TO TO IMPROVE THE THE SEWER WATER LINES AND ALL THAT STUFF BEFORE THIS ACTUALLY HAPPENS SO WE DON'T SEE OURSELVES THINKING THAT A BIG BUILDING I'M JUST THINKING OF WHAT'S GOING ON RIGHT NOW WE'RE GOING TO BUILD A, YOU KNOW, TEN, 15 STOREY BUILDING WITH FOUR OR 500 UNITS AND THEN WE DON'T HAVE THE SEWER CAPACITY IN THE AREA ONCE THE BUILDING IS GOING UP OR NOW WE HAVE TO EITHER TAX THE POPULATION MORE TO PROVIDE THE FUNDS, DO THE WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE IN AN EMERGENCY SITUATION AT THAT POINT, ARE THERE ANY PLANS TO IMPROVE THE SEWER SYSTEMS, THE WATER LINES AND ALL THE UTILITIES NECESSARY TO INCREASE THE POPULATION IN THESE AREAS BECAUSE I'M THINKING THAT YOU ALREADY MIGHT HAVE DESIGNATED PLACES IN THE CITY THAT THIS COULD HAPPEN. IT CAN'T HAPPEN EVERYWHERE RIGHT. SO IS THERE ARE THERE ANY PLANS FOR THAT ALREADY? THE MAYOR COUNCILMEMBER EXCUSE ME MAYOR COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS, THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT WILL BE GOOD OR HUMOR TO YOU TO HEAR THAT I'VE BEEN IN SEVERAL DEVELOPMENT MEETINGS WHERE OUR UTILITY STAFF JUST HAD TO INFORM DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY THAT THEY CAN'T BUILD WHAT WANT TO BUILD IN A PARTICULAR LOCATION BASED ON THAT VERY ISSUE SO NOTHING IS GOING TO GET BUILT I DO THAT DUE TO THE THOROUGHNESS AND DUE DILIGENCE OF OUR UTILITY STAFF IN AN AREA THAT CAN'T HANDLE IT BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF SMART PEOPLE ACROSS EIGHTH STREET WHO ARE DOING A MODEL A FULL CITYWIDE MODEL AND LOOKING AT THE SEWER CAPACITY OF THE POTENTIAL DEVELOPMENT I CAN THINK OF A FEW AREAS THAT CURRENTLY HAVE THAT ISSUE BUT THE OTHER WAY THAT WE ENSURE THAT ADEQUATE INFRASTRUCTURE EXISTS FOR LARGER FORMS THIS DEVELOPMENT IS TO LIM IT TO ZONING DISTRICTS THAT ARE SERVED BY ROADWAYS FOR EXAMPLE THAT HAVE ADEQUATE CAPACITY. SO COLLECT YOUR OWN ARTERIAL ROADS FOR EXAMPLE IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT LOW DENSITY SETTINGS THEN I THINK WHAT THE ISSUE IS IT HAS TO DO WITH WHAT ARE YOUR STANDARDS PROPERTY MAINTENANCE AND YOU KNOW ON STREET PARKING AND HOW MANY VEHICLES YOU CAN HAVE OUTSIDE A HOME. WE ALREADY RULES AND REGULATIONS FOR THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. SO EVEN IF YOU ESTABLISHED A COHOUSING SITUATION IN A LOW DENSITY AREA YOU'RE STILL SUBJECT TO SOME OF THOSE RULES AND REGULATIONS. SO I THINK YES I THINK ENSURING THAT YOU HAVE THE RIGHT RULES AND THE RIGHT INFRASTRUCTURE IN PLACES WHERE DO YOU ALLOW THE BIGGER ONES TO EXIST EQUIVALENT TO MULTIFAMILY SIMILAR TO THE SAME CONVERSATION WHERE DO YOU BUY AN APARTMENT BUILDING BECAUSE IT'S VERY SIMILAR IN TERMS OF ITS IMPACT, IN TERMS OF ITS USE CHARACTERISTICS. THERE'S JUST A LITTLE BIT OF NUANCES IN TERMS OF THE DIFFERENCES THE UNITS THEMSELVES OTHERWISE THEY FUNCTION VERY SIMILARLY. I THINK YOU BECAUSE FROM 2001 YES. I APOLOGIZE. I GOT OFF ON MY CONDO TANGENT AND FORGOT I HAD ONE OTHER QUESTION. I APOLOGIZE. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE YOUR GRACE. ARE THERE OPTIONS? SO I'M REALLY INTRIGUED BY THE THE SENIOR LIVING COHABITATION THING I OFTEN TALK TO TALK TO MY FRIENDS A LOT ABOUT LIKE WE SHOULD TAKE OVER THE FLOOR OF SOME PLACE AND JUST ALL LIVE THERE TOGETHER BECAUSE WOULD MAKE US HAPPY AND CERTAINLY THERE ARE MARGINALIZED GROUPS I KNOW THERE ARE ARE COMMUNITIES OF FOR PEOPLE SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE STRAIGHT COMMUNITIES OFTENTIMES DON'T ACCEPT THEM. RIGHT. AND SO THERE'S THESE CONGREGATE LIVING ACTIVITIES THAT HAPPEN A LOT. SO I'M INTRIGUED BY THAT ESPECIALLY I GET INTO THAT AGE GROUP AND YOU KNOW THE CARDS ARE STARTING SHOW UP AT THE STUPID AARP. IT'S LIKE WAIT A MINUTE. BUT MY MY QUESTION IS ARE THERE OTHER OPTIONS FOR US TO INCENTIVIZE MODELS LIKE CO-OP MODELS IN THIS IN THIS AREA WHEREAS WHERE YOU COULD PROVIDE SOME KIND OF FRACTIONAL OWNERSHIP OPPORTUNITY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT SO THAT WE COULD MAKE GOOD ON THE ABILITY FOR THEM TO INVEST IN THAT AREA OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT HAPPENS LIKE BETWEEN THE DEVELOPER AND THE PEOPLE BUYING AND IT DOESN'T REALLY HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH US FROM CODE PERSPECTIVE MAYOR COUNCILMAN ALESSANDRA I DON'T I'M GOING TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION DIRECTLY BUT WHAT I WOULD SAY IS THAT THE THE LIMITED NUMBER GRANTED OF DEVELOPERS WHO ARE DOING THIS IN THE TWIN CITIES THAT I'VE SPOKEN WITH THEY'RE FOR RENT TENURE OF AROUND SIX MONTHS AS THEIR GOAL RIGHT NOW THEY'RE SEEING IN THE RATIO FOR EXAMPLE 9 TO 12 MONTHS IS THEIR TYPICAL LENGTH AND LEASE AND SOMETIMES THEY'LL RENT A UNIT ELSEWHERE IN THE BUILDING FOR A UNIT SOMETIMES THEY'LL BUY THAT HOME LIKE YOU TALKED ABOUT AFTER SAVING SOME MONEY OR THEY THEY FIND ACCOMMODATIONS ELSEWHERE FOR OTHER REASONS SO I THINK THAT THE KIND OF MODEL YOU'RE SPEAKING TO IS A LONGER TENURE, A LONGER LIVING SITUATION, THAT MOREIMITED LIMITED TERM. BUT I MEAN THAT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT WE CAN LOOK INTO. YEAH, I APPRECIATE THAT. I THINK MORE OR LESS THE GENERIC QUESTION THAT I'M ASKING OF THE GENERAL QUESTION I'M ASKING IS DO WE HAVE ANY INFLUENCE THE ABILITY FOR US TO PROVIDE GUIDANCE AND OR INCENTIVE AND OR RESTRICTION EVEN ON A CO-OP STYLE MODEL OR DOES THAT LIKE NOT EVEN COME INTO WITH ANYTHING THAT WE DO LIKE IT WOULD NEVER BE ON OUR RADAR TO DECIDE WHETHER THAT'S A GOOD IDEA OR A BAD IDEA OR TO INCENTIVIZE NOT INCENTIVIZE . NO, I APPRECIATE ONE OF THE REASONS I'M HERE IS NOT ONLY TO GET YOUR AFFIRMATION THAT THIS IS THE RIGHT DIRECTION BUT TO GET MORE IDEAS. AND SO I CONSIDER THIS AN IDEA I CONSIDER RESEARCH ABOUT THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMPONENT YOU ASKED ABOUT THESE ARE AREAS OF RESEARCH THAT WE NEED TO DO MORE WORK ON. OKAY? SO WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT. AND WHILE I HAVE MIKE BRIEFLY, ONE THING I FORGOT TO MENTION IN MY PRESENTATION IS THAT YES THE PLANNING COMMISSION REVIEWED THIS ITEM AND WAS SUPPORTIVE. I FORGOT TO TELL YOU THAT BUT THE HRA DID PROVIDE GOOD FEEDBACK SO THANK YOU FOR THAT AS WELL. BUT THE ONE THING THE PLANNING COMMISSION DID REQUEST AND I THINK WE SUPPORT THIS IS AS OPPOSED TO THE LAST STUDY ITEM WHICH IS MORE FULLY BAKED WE'RE BEING VERY GRANULAR AND SPECIFIC ABOUT WHAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING, WHAT WE'RE ASKING TO INCLUDE IN THE ORDINANCE ON THIS ONE. I THINK WE STILL A LITTLE BIT MORE WORK TO DO. SO I THINK WHAT WE'LL DO IS BRING A DRAFT ORDINANCE BACK IN A STUDY SESSION FORMAT AND MAYBE IT'S A MORE LIMITED STUDY SESSION, MAYBE IT'S NOT AS LONG BUT AT LEAST THAT WAY YOU CAN SEE A DRAFT OF WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT PRIOR TO GETTING INTO A PUBLIC HEARING ENVIRONMENT. SO WE COMMITTED TO DO THAT FOR PLANNING COMMISSION. WE'RE HAPPY TO DO THAT FOR YOU TOO. GREAT GREAT. WELL I APPRECIATE THAT. OBVIOUSLY I DON'T EXPECT YOU TO KNOW EVERYTHING MR. JOHNSON, YOU KNOW. I SO APPRECIATE YOU TAKING THE THE ITEM. THE ONLY OTHER THING I WOULD SAY SINCE I MISSED MAYOR IS THAT I I I AM I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM. I DON'T REALLY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH SHORT TERM RENTAL GENERALLY SPEAKING AS YOU ALL KNOW I'M YOU KNOW AND I KNOW OFTEN SUBJECT COUNCILMEMBER WELL IT ISN'T IT'S NOT IN THE SENSE THAT THE SIX MONTH RENTAL COULD BE CONSIDERED YOU KNOW A SHORT TERM RENTAL DEPENDING UPON WHAT YOUR CODE SAYS. I REALIZE THAT BUT YOU KNOW THAT THE CRASH BED THING IS I'M THINKING ABOUT MORE THAN ANYTHING WHERE YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, GROUPS OF PEOPLE RENT TOGETHER A UNIT BECAUSE THEY'RE NEVER THEY'RE MORE THAN COUPLE OF HOURS AT A TIME AND IT IS VERY POPULAR AROUND MAJOR BECAUSE FLIGHT ATTENDANTS OFTENTIMES FLIGHT ATTENDANTS DO NOT GET STATIONED WHERE THEY LIVE. RIGHT. SO COULD BE YOU COULD LIVE HERE IN MINNEAPOLIS BUT MY FRIEND WHO WAS A FLIGHT ATTENDANT HAD BASE OF OPERATION IN LAGUARDIA. SO SHE DIDN'T SHE HAD TO FLY TO LAGUARDIA ON THE FIRST FLIGHT EVERY MONDAY AND THEN SHE HAD TO FIND A PLACE TO STAY FOR THREE DAYS BEFORE SHE COULD COME BACK TO MINNEAPOLIS AND GO HOME. AND YOU KNOW, SO THERE MAY BE REASONS TO CREATE AN OPPORTUNITY ZONE NEAR IN THE SOUTH LOOP AREA THAT ACCOMMODATES THAT PARTICULAR FUNCTION AND THAT'S WHY I BRING IT UP. THANK YOU. AND YOU CAN'T GET A SIX MONTH LEASE IN BLOOMINGTON. YES, YOU CAN DO IT. YES. YES. SO I'M I'M HEARING EVERYONE AGREEING THAT THESE ARE GOOD IDEAS AND I THINK WE WANT TO HEAD IN THIS DIRECTION AND CONTINUE THIS CONVERSATION AND I'LL ADD MY VOICE TO THAT AS WELL. BUT I'M GOING TO BE THE GUY TO SAY I THINK WE NEED TO MAKE. SURE. I APPRECIATE YOU. YOU'RE SAYING THAT YOU'RE KIND OF WORKING YOUR WAY THROUGH THIS AND I THINK TO GO ON IS A SLOGAN AS DELIBERATE AS POSSIBLE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE THIS RIGHT BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF WAYS I THINK IT CAN GO OFF THE RAILS QUICKLY AND I ESPECIALLY AS WE LOOK AT THINGS LIKE FOR EXAMPLE CONVERSIONS IN TERMS OF THE THE SAFETY ASPECTS OF ALL OF THOSE AND NOT JUST THE PERSONAL SAFETY BUT YOU KNOW, THE FIRE CODE SAFETY. HOW DO YOU GET THAT MANY PEOPLE OUT IF NEED BE, YOU KNOW, IN A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A LONGER CONVERSATION ABOUT LONG TERM MAINTENANCE AND UPKEEP OF THESE THINGS IT RENTS IT YOU KNOW 700 BUCKS A MONTH DOESN'T LEAVE A WHOLE LOT LEFT OVER FOR THE LONG TERM UPKEEP AND MAINTENANCE OF A OF A PROJECT THIS AND I WOULD HATE TO SEE SOMETHING LIKE TO DO IT ONE OF THOSE DEVELOPMENTS THAT YOU SHOW THOSE FANCY GOOD LOOKING DEVELOPMENTS IN COLUMBIA HEIGHTS OR IN SAINT PAUL AND THEN WITHOUT THE LONG TERM PLAN TO MAKE SURE THAT IT STAYS LOOKING GOOD LIKE THAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT AROUND OUR AROUND OUR UNIVERSITIES AND CAMPUSES. I MEAN WHAT YOU DESCRIBE IS A DORM BASICALLY AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF THEY'RE GOING TO DO DORMS. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE OUR CAMPUS IS ACTUALLY DO DORMS AND WE CAN GET BEHIND THAT BECAUSE THAT THAT PROVIDES A DIFFERENT LEVEL OF SERVICE AND SO ON. BUT I WOULD LIKE TO TO ENSURE THAT ESPECIALLY A A SITUATION LIKE THAT AND SPEAKING FROM EXPERIENCE FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF MINNESOTA, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS AREN'T NEGATIVELY IMPACTED BY SOMETHING LIKE THIS AND FOR THAT MATTER AND I WILL ALSO ECHO THIS NOTION OF I TOO DENSE OF A TOO MUCH DENSIFICATION IN IN TERMS OF WHAT THESE ARE I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THEM INTEGRATED INTO OTHER OTHER BUILDINGS, OTHER DEVELOPMENTS OTHER POSSIBILITIES YOU KNOW, ONE FLOOR BE THIS THE SORROWS OF THE CO-LIVING AND THEN THE SIX OTHER FLOORS BEING THE TYPICAL APARTMENT COMPLEX. AND SO AND THEN NOTIONS OF FINISHES AND WHAT SHOULD BE IN THERE AND THE SERVICES AND THE AMENITIES AND SO ON. I REALLY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE APPROACH THIS VERY THOUGHTFULLY THAT IT'S NOT JUST A QUICK DIRTY THING BUT LOOKING AT IT FROM A LONG TERM, LOOKING AT IT FROM A BIGGER PICTURE STANDPOINT, A BIGGER PICTURE IMPACT ON THE ON THE COMMUNITY, ON THE NEIGHBORS, ON THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND MAKE SURE THAT WE DO THIS RIGHT BECAUSE I THINK IT'S THE RIGHT IDEA. AND YEAH, HISTORICALLY BOARDING HOUSES WORKED EFFECTIVELY AND WE COULD SEE MANY BENEFITS THAT BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO THIS RIGHT IF WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS. THANK YOU, MAYOR. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MR. JOHNSON. THANK YOU. WELL DONE UP THERE TONIGHT AND I WILL SAY I JUST I SENT MR. A BRILLIANT NOTE THAT YOU'VE BEEN KNOCKING IT OUT OF THE PARK LATELY SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU AND KILLING IT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE THAT YOU HAVE GOOD NIGHT. THANK YOU TO OUR LAST ITEM OF THE EVENING COUNCIL'S ITEM POINT THREE OUR CITY COUNCIL POLICY IN ISSUE UPDATE I SUMMARIZE QUICKLY OUR LISTENING SESSION AND I WILL SUMMARIZE IT QUICKLY BECAUSE WE ONLY HAD ONE SPEAKER SALIH THIS WAS WH US AGAIN THIS EVENING TALKING SPECIFICALLY ABOUT LIGHTING AND DAR AL FAROOQ IN THEIR PARKING LOT AND WE HAD A CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT BUT BEYOND THAT WE HAD A COUPLE OF PEOPLE WHO HAD CALLED AHEAD TO SIGN UP BUT WERE NOT THERE SO SALIH WAS OUR ONLY OR ONLY SPEAKER THIS EVENING THE ONLY OTHER ITEM THAT I HAD THIS EVENING A COUPLE FOLKS HAVE MENTIONED AT THIS THE EVENTS OF THE PAST WEEKEND, THE ATTEMPT ON FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP'S LIFE I HOPE WE CAN ALL AGREE A THAT WE WISH FOR THE BEST FOR FOR ANYONE IS THE SUBJECT OF AN ASSASSINATION ATTEMPT AND HIS FAMILY SO ON AND ALSO AGREE THAT POLITICAL VIOLENCE WHATEVER LEVEL WHETHER IT'S YOU KNOW ACTUALLY SHOOTING AT SOMEONE OR YOU KNOW, PHYSICAL VIOLENCE OR VERBAL VIOLENCE HOPE WE CAN ALL AGREE THAT THERE'S NO PLACE FOR IT ON ANY SIDE IN ANY WAY AT ANY LEVEL OF GOVERNMENT AND WANT TO CONDEMN THAT IN IN ALL IN ALL FORMS WE SEE IT'S FAR TOO EASY ON SOCIAL MEDIA NOW IT'S FAR TOO EASY IN THE ANONYMITY, YOU KNOW, ONLINE AND IT JUST IT ABSOLUTELY NEEDS TO STOP AND I THINK I WOULD HOPE THAT IF ANYONE SEES THAT OR HEARS THAT WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY HERE IN BLOOMINGTON A TELL THEM TO STOP THAT. THAT IS NOT THAT'S NOT HOW WE THAT'S NOT WE OPERATE AND BE IF IT IS LEGITIMATE THREATS OF VIOLENCE AND TO DO WHAT WE CAN TO TO GET CHIEF HODGES AND THE BPD INVOLVED IN BECAUSE THIS IS JUST IT CAN'T CONTINUE WE CAN'T CONTINUE A COMMUNITY WE CAN'T CONTINUE AS A COUNTRY IF THIS IS GOING TO BE THE NORM AND SO I JUST WANTED TO THROW THAT OUT AND HOPEFULLY GET YOUR SUPPORT IN THOSE STATEMENTS IN THOSE BECAUSE WE SIMPLY WE CAN'T CONTINUE LIKE THIS SO MR. BROOKIE THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS A LITTLE BIT OF FOLLOW UP ON THE STORMS ROLLED THROUGH THE OTHER NIGHT AND THE POWER OUTAGES THAT WE HAD THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY YOU KNOW APPRECIATE A SUGGESTION FROM COUNCILMEMBER NELSON EARLIER TODAY SINCE A NUMBER OF FOLKS HAD OUTAGES EXTENDING LONG ENOUGH THAT PERHAPS SOME FOOD SPOILAGE HAPPENED. WE DO HAVE ORGANICS DROP OFF SITES IF PEOPLE DON'T HAVE THEIR OWN ORGANICS RECYCLING AT THEIR HOUSE VALLEY VIEW PARK AND WEST BAY, WEST BUSH PARK ALSO HENNEPIN COUNTY HAS THE ORGANICS DROP OFF SITE AT THE SOUTH HENNEPIN RECYCLING AND PROBLEM WASTE DROP OFF CENTER SO IF YOU'RE YOUR DEEP FREEZER YOUR FRIDGE NOT ENOUGH TO CONTAIN THINGS FOR A WHILE THERE'S AN FOR YOU SO THAT INFORMATION HAS BEEN POSTED ON NEXT DOOR AND FACEBOOK AND IT'S ON OUR HOME PAGE OF THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON WEBSITE. WE ALSO SENT OUT AN EMAIL WITH THOSE TIPS TO OUR GARBAGE AND GROUPS WHICH IS MORE THAN 5000 PEOPLE SO APPRECIATE GOOD IDEA IT'S A LITTLE THING I'M SURE FOR FOR MANY PEOPLE BUT TO THE EXTENT THAT WE CAN BE HELPFUL I APPRECIATE THE SUGGESTIONS FROM COUNCIL WHERE WE CAN DO THEM. THANK YOU MR. BROOKING. ANY QUESTIONS OF MR. BRUCE ON THAT ONE? COUNCILMEMBER KERNAN AND COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO CAN THANK YOU MAYOR JUST A RELATED NO I DON'T THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE KNOW MANY HOMEOWNER INSURANCE POLICIES AND I WOULD HOPE RENTAL AS WELL WILL COVER THE COST OF THAT IS THAT GOES BAD DURING AN OUTAGE SO I HAVE USAA I KNOW USAA WILL SEND ME A CHECK FOR THE FOOD THAT SPOILED AND WE JUST GOT OUR PARENT TODAY SO YOU'RE ABOUT THAT BUT I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T KNOW ABOUT THAT SO JUST WANTED TO BRING IT UP. THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I HAVE ONE COMMENT BUT BEFORE THAT I ALSO WANT TO JUST THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS REGARDING THE VIOLENCE THIS WEEKEND. I WANT TO NOTED THAT, YOU KNOW, FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP WAS THE LEAST HURT AMONG THE FOLKS IN THAT RIGHT. THERE WERE TWO SERIOUSLY CRITICALLY INJURED AND ONE KILLED. AND SO VIOLENCE IS HAS UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES ALMOST ALWAYS RIGHT AND I HOPE THAT I HOPE THAT MAYBE THIS IS THE I DON'T KNOW IF IF IF THINGS LIKE SANDY DON'T DO IT I'M NOT SURE HOW THIS DOES BUT WE'VE GOT TO FIGURE OUT TO BECOME A LESS VIOLENT SOCIETY AND AGREE WITH YOU WHOLEHEARTEDLY AND SUPPORT THAT. REGARDING THE TREE THE STORMS I GOT SEVERAL SEVERAL QUESTIONS FROM FOLKS. IT KIND OF HAS UNDERSCORED THE HOW POTENTIALLY BEHIND MAYBE THAT'S A BAD WAY TO SAY IT BUT BEHIND WE ARE ON GETTING THESE DEAD ASH TREES DOWN BECAUSE I'VE HAD TWO NEIGHBORS CONTACT ME SAYING THEIR NEIGHBORS TREE BROKE THEIR THEIR WIRES AND THAT'S WHY THEY'RE OUT OF POWER. AND SO, YOU KNOW, XCEL IS DOING THE BEST THAT IT CAN BUT WE ALL AS HOMEOWNERS IF WE HAVE THEM OR OUR NEIGHBORS HAVE OBLIGATIONS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE TAKING GOOD CARE OF THE TREES THAT NEED TO COME DOWN. AND SO TO THE EXTENT THAT WE CAN MAYBE BOLSTER THAT I KNOW I KNOW OUR FORESTER IS DOING ALL THE WORK ON OUR PUBLIC LANDS AND EVERYTHING BUT HOW WE CAN GET FOLKS TO TO TAKE THAT SERIOUSLY WORK THROUGH IT I THINK IS REALLY IMPORTANT IN THE END THE ONE INDIVIDUAL THAT CONTACTED ME HAPPENED TO HAVE YOU KNOW HAS A CPAP MACHINE LIKE OTHER LIKE IT CAN IT BE IT CAN BE DEADLY RIGHT? IT CAN LITERALLY BE DEADLY FOR PEOPLE AND IT IS PREVENTABLE. RIGHT. THAT'S THE STORM IS IT PREVENTABLE? BUT MAKING SURE YOUR TREES ARE IN THE KIND OF SHAPE THAT NEED TO BE SO THAT THEY DON'T BRING DOWN POWER LINES IS SOMETHING YOU CAN DO AND SO I JUST WANT TO ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY TO DO THAT. THANKS. THANK YOU FOR THAT COUNTS MEMBER MR. FURBERG. AND IF I MAY, MR. MAYOR AND COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO THANK YOU SAYING SO A REMINDER THAT LAST YEAR THE CITY COUNCIL MADE IT EASIER FOR PEOPLE TO DO THAT FOR TREES ON THEIR PRIVATE PROPERTY. THE COST OF TREE REMOVAL IS SIGNIFICANT AND IT KEEPS GOING UP AND SO THE COUNCIL HAS MADE IT POSSIBLE FOR TREE TO BE INCLUDED AS AN ASSESSMENT ON PROPERTY TAXES TO DEFER AT LEAST THE TIME TO HAVE TO MAKE THAT PAYMENT AND YOU CAN DO IT OVER A PERIOD OF TIME AND NOT JUST ALL AT ONCE. SO APPRECIATE YOU SAYING THAT AND I ALSO APPRECIATE YOUR BRINGING UP THE OTHER VICTIMS OF THE SHOOTING THIS WEEKEND. I APOLOGIZE FOR FORGETTING THAT BUT CERTAINLY THEY WERE VICTIMS AS WELL. LET'S REMEMBER A WOMAN THEY HAD TO BUT I'M GOING TO ROLL IT INTO ONE ONE PIECE HERE BECAUSE I THINK THERE'S A CUSTOMER LIKE TO GET MOVING HERE TONIGHT. SO DOES THE CITY HAVE A AN ELECTIONS PLAN AROUND EDUCATION AND SAFETY? MR. REED MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS COUNCIL MEMBER LOWMAN WE DO SIGNIFICANT VOTER EDUCATION LEADING UP TO THE ELECTIONS LESS SO AT THIS TIME OF YEAR BEFORE THE PRIMARY WE SEE IN RELATIVELY LITTLE AT THIS POINT AND I THINK THERE'S ONLY ONE SEAT THAT'S ON THE PRIMARY BALLOT BUT AS WE HEAD INTO NOVEMBER WE WILL DO QUITE A BIT MORE THAT VOTER EDUCATION INCLUDES THINGS LIKE WHERE IS YOUR PRECINCT IN AND WHAT ARE WHAT ARE THE QUESTIONS OR THE SEATS THAT ARE ON THE BALLOT RIGHT NOW WE HAVE NOT DISCUSSED THINGS LIKE POLLING LOCATION, SAFETY IN THAT VOTER EDUCATION AND TO SOME EXTENT YOU KNOW WE DON'T WE ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO BE SAFE AND WE RECOGNIZE THAT THERE ARE FREE SPEECH PERMISSIONS THAT BUT THERE ARE ALSO PROXIMITY BOUNDARIES THAT GO ALONG WITH THAT AND WHAT PEOPLE CAN DO BECAUSE VOTER INTIMIDATION IS A REAL THING AND WE RECOGNIZE THAT. SO WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT WE CONTINUE TO COMMUNICATE THOSE THINGS. MOSTLY THAT HAPPENS DURING OUR ELECTION. JUDGE WHICH IS GOING ON RIGHT NOW AS A MATTER OF FACT. AND SO THAT LIST OF FOLKS THAT YOU SAW EARLIER THIS EVENING, THEY GET A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TRAINING AND ARE WELL EQUIPPED ESPECIALLY THE CAPTAINS ARE REALLY KNOWLEDGEABLE. RIGHT. AND SO THESE ISSUES ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHETHER SOMEBODY WHO MIGHT BE PROTESTING IS TOO CLOSE TO THE POLLING PLACE THEY'RE KNOWLEDGEABLE IN ANSWERING THOSE THINGS SO PEOPLE CAN FEEL I THINK ASSURED THAT WE'RE PREPARING OUR ELECTION JUDGES AND FOR STAFF IT'S A CONCERN THAT WE KEEP FOREMOST THE QUESTIONS COUNSEL ANYTHING ELSE TO BRING UP TONIGHT? IF NOT I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION ADJOURN SO IT'S LIKE MOTION COUNTS PREMIER DALLESSANDRO SECOND COUNCILMEMBER TO ADJOURN THIS EVENING NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I I OPPOSE MOTION CARRY SEVEN ZERO THANKS MUCH FOR THE DISCUSSION THIS EVENING COUNCIL STAFF WELL THEN THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANKS TO EVERYBODY WHO STUCK AND STUCK IT OUT WITH US AND WAS WITH US THE REST ALL EVENING SO THANK YOU MUCH. HAVE A GOOD TUESDAY