MAR 3, 2026 | City Council

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All right. All right, good afternoon. Welcome. I'd like to call to order this meeting of the San Jose City Council for the afternoon of March 3rd. Tony, would you please call the roll? Kamei Here. Campos Present. Turdios Here. Cohen Here. Ortiz Present. >> Mulkey Here. Dwan Here. Candellas Here. Casey Here. Foley Here. Mayhan Here. You have a quorum. Great, thank you so much. Good afternoon, everyone. Welcome. If you are able, please stand and join us in the Pledge of Allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all. Thank you. Today's invocation will be provided by the Rainbow Women's Chorus and Councilmember Turdios will tell us more. Thank you, Mayor. Uh in a few short minutes, my colleagues will be presenting a proclamation celebrating Women's History Month. And so, I couldn't think of a better group to kick off our first invocation of the month than the Rainbow Women's Chorus, a treble choir that welcomes women of all ages and backgrounds who come together united by their love of singing. The Rainbow Women's Chorus' mission is to work together to develop musical excellence in an atmosphere of mutual respect and support, and they sing to enhance the esteem of all women, to celebrate diversity, and to touch people's hearts and lives. We're joined today by Ruth Huber, who serves as the conductor, co-artistic director, and composer in residence for the chorus. And Ruth actually studied conducting right here in downtown at our very own San Jose State University. Uh the Rainbow Women's Chorus' most recent concert, Rise: 30 Years of Harmony and Pride, had the highest attendance of any concert in the chorus' history, and the chorus looks forward to continuing to celebrate their 30th anniversary throughout this year. So, without further ado, uh please join me in welcoming the Rainbow Women's Chorus. Arise [singing] and sing. Let every voice be heard with breath and sound, [singing] give meaning to the world. Arise, arise and music fill the air, ringing and re-echoing [singing] everywhere. Arise and sing. Let every voice [singing] be heard. Arise and [music] sing. Let every voice be [singing] heard with breath and give music [singing] to the air. Ringing and re-echoing Arise and music fill [singing] the air. Ringing and re-echoing >> [singing] >> Let every voice be heard. Arise and sing. Let every voice be heard. >> [singing] >> With breath and Arise and music [singing] fill the air. Ringing and re-echoing Arise and music >> [singing] >> fill the air. Ringing and re-echoing >> [singing] >> everywhere. >> [applause] [applause] >> We're going to keep on moving forward. [singing] Keep on moving forward. Keep on moving forward. [singing] Never turning back. Never turning [singing] back. We're going to plant the seeds of [singing] justice. Plant the seeds of justice. Plant the seeds [singing] of justice. Never turning [singing] back. >> [music] >> Never turning back. We're going to keep on loving boldly. [singing] Keep on loving boldly. Keep on loving boldly. Keep on loving [singing] boldly. Never turning back. Never turning back. >> [music and singing] >> Never turning back. >> [music] >> We're going to work for change together. Work for change together. Work for change together. [music] Work for change [singing] together. Work for change together. Never turning back. Never turning back. Never [singing] turning back. We're going to keep on moving [singing] forward. Keep on moving forward. >> [singing] >> Keep on moving forward. >> [singing] [music] [singing] [singing] [applause] [applause] >> Wow, that was so beautiful. Thank you for sharing your talents with us. What a great way to start off our meeting. Thank you again. And that was the Rainbow Women's Chorus. Thank you, Councilmember Torideus, for today's invocation. All right, we're on to our ceremonial items. Councilmembers Kamei and Campos, Vice Mayor Foley, and City Manager Maguire, and City Attorney Suzanne Akal Wood, City Clerk Tony Taber, if you would all join me at the podium. We are going to recognize and proclaim March as Women's History Month. >> [applause] >> And if we could have all the ladies representing our departments and offices come down as well, that'd be great. Today is very special. We have someone from every department in the city of San Jose represented. Uh today we gather to celebrate Women's History Month, a time to recognize the incredible contributions of women that women have made to our society. From trailblazing pioneers like Mayor Janet Gray Hayes and Mayor Susan Hammer, who are figures of leadership and inspiration in the city of San Jose, and women across all of our departments who have a vital role in our community. Let us recognize the importance of women in our society. I would like to recognize the importance of leadership of the city manager Jennifer Maguire, city attorney Susana Alcala Wood, city clerk Tony Taper, vice mayor Pam Foley, council member Pamela Campos, and all the women in the city who are incredibly hard workers. Women have played a vital road role in shaping our world. Let us celebrate grandmothers, mothers, daughters, sisters, and friends. We stand on the shoulders of women who have fought tirelessly for equality, justice, and human rights. As we celebrate the progress we've made, we also acknowledge acknowledge the challenges that still lie ahead. We must continue to fight for economic equality, equal opportunities, and equal pay for equal work. Well, there's something, huh? As women, we must continue to support each other, lift each other up, and create a world where women can thrive, reach their full potential, and be happy and successful. And now I'd like to ask our city manager Jennifer Maguire to say a few words before our mayor uh presents the proclamation. Thank you, Council Member Kamei. Um Good afternoon, everybody. Um Women's History Month celebrates women who have shaped our lives, strengthened our sense of belonging, and inspired many generations through their trailblazing spirit, leadership, and courage. I am so proud to work alongside so many women who serve today and who have previously served our city in many classifications in our organization from staff specialist to firefighters to police officers to engineers to analysts and so many more. Behind me are women who are representing all of the amazing and hardworking women of our city from all of our departments and offices. So, what that's pretty amazing. These ladies have been working in our city from as little as 3 years to some of them almost 30 years in our organization. These women are being recognized for leading with compassion, inspiring innovation, and for their commitment to the community. I had the privilege of sitting around the table at a luncheon today celebrating the work that they do for our city with Councilmember Kame, Vice Mayor Foley, and Councilmember Campos. I also want to thank um and acknowledge our my appointee partners City Attorney Susana Alcala Wood and City Clerk Tony Tabar for your partnership throughout the last many years and a very new one with our new City Attorney, but I appreciate both of you very, very, very much. Thank you very much and let's celebrate women. Thank you. >> [applause] >> So, I'm going to present you with Thank you. Yes, thank you. >> [applause] >> Sideways. Everybody sideways. Come on and do it in the front. Aw. Aw. Aw. >> [snorts] >> Sorry for what? Perfect. Thank you. They're making me cry. >> We love the hearts. >> [applause] [applause] >> Thanks for your great work. All right. Have a great afternoon, everyone who's exiting the chambers. Thank you for being here, especially the awesome hearts in the audience. Now, it's my pleasure to invite Councilmember Campos to join me at the podium, where we will recognize and proclaim March as Youth Arts Month. Councilmember? Good afternoon. And thank you to my council colleagues, as well as the arts advocates who are here today. >> [clears throat] >> I am proud to bring this proclamation or Yes, this proclamation forward as it combines two areas I care deeply about. The arts and our youth. And I'm especially proud about the community leader we have with us today who can speak from personal experience about how critical this intersection is for our community. Art gives our youth new tools to see the world differently, especially at a time when it is critical for their self-discovery and personal development. When our young people get involved in the arts, our community is all the better for it. After all, who here hasn't hung up a young child's drawing on their fridge or been to a school recital, play, or performance? Art brings our community together. To all the art leaders who show up for our youth, thank you. Thank you for inspiring our future leaders to be creative, critical thinkers who are unafraid to be their whole, authentic selves. Your work is felt, seen, and deeply appreciated by us all. And now, I'd like to invite Joy Murrieta, executive director of Kids in Common, to share her remarks with us before the mayor and I present the proclamation recognizing March as Youth Arts Month in the City of San Jose. Thank you, Council Member Campos. Uh good afternoon, everyone. My name is Joy Murrieta, and I serve as the executive director of Kids in Common here in Santa Clara County. And in this role, um I work alongside partners across our region to strengthen systems that support youth well-being, opportunity, and equity. Before joining Kids in Common, I spent over a decade leading an organization dedicated to expanding access to the arts for young people. Both experiences have shown me that the arts are not just enrichment. They are essential to helping young people feel safe, connected, and supported. So, thank you, everyone, for joining us uh in San Jose as we celebrate the Youth in Arts. This proclamation reminds us that when we will support the arts, we're supporting something so much deeper than creativity. We're supporting youth well-being and the long-term health of our community. Today's young people are facing real pressures and they need spaces where they can express themselves, connect with others, and feel a sense of belonging. The arts provide exactly those emotions or those spaces where young people can create, perform, write, and explore new ideas. And when they do so, they gain healthy ways to process emotions, manage stress, and build resilience. They develop confidence, communication skills, and stronger relationships with peers and caring adults, all of which are critical and protective factors for behavioral health. The arts help people young people feel seen and valued. When youth feel connected and supported, they make healthier choices. They build stronger identities and they experience greater emotional well-being. And for our community, this matters. A city that invests in youth is a city that's investing in prevention, healing, and opportunity. It is a city strengthening the relationships and sense of belonging that make neighborhoods safer, healthier, and more connected. San Jose and the county have long recognized the importance of supporting youth not just academically, but socially and emotionally. And today's proclamation reaffirms the commitment and invites us to keep expanding access to creative spaces that help our young people thrive. Because when our youth are healthy, when they have outlets for expression, places of belonging, and opportunities to grow, our entire community becomes stronger. So, thank you all for celebrating youth in the arts and for supporting the well-being and creativity of the young people who shape our future. >> [applause] >> All right, Council member Ortiz, if you would join me at the podium, we will recognize City Team Mayfair. Thank you so much, Mayor. I see my my friends coming down. It's truly an honor to recognize an organization that has been a steady that has had a steady presence in the Mayfair for more than four decades. Since 1957, City Team San Jose has strengthened Santa Clara County by providing meals, shelter, recovery services, and workforce pathways that help our most vulnerable neighbors move from crisis to stability. And in District 5, City Team at Mayfair has been doing that work for now over 40 years. What began as youth outreach focused on mentorship, educational support, and positive engagement for young people grew into something even larger, a trusted community anchor. From hosting summer camps that have gave hundreds of youth life-changing experiences to repairing bikes for local neighborhood kids to organizing neighborhood cleanups, City Team has always shown up in the East Side fully with their heart. And now, through their vital connections program, City Team strengthens entire families, addressing emotional, spiritual, vocational, and practical needs. Here in Mayfair alone, the pantry supports families 4,100 times and served 616 unique households. Across all locations, more than 2.5 million pounds of food were distributed last year. And that is not just service, that is sustained commitment to dignity and sustainability. In a couple moments, I'll ask the mayor to present the commendation, but before then, I would like to ask Mr. Ricardo Pineda, program supervisor at City Team Mayfair, to please share a few words with the crowd. We're here grateful to the city of San Jose councilman for valuing over 30 continuous years in the Mayfair community. This job didn't exist. No, it wouldn't have been possible without the commitment and dedication of this extraordinary team we have here. >> Look, we have women and men who have served with passion and dedication in the community over the years. We have not only provided food support and essential resources for families, but we have also offered spiritual and emotional support that has transformed thousands of lives. And most significantly, many of the people who once received support are now leaders who share hope with others, impacting the community in spiritual, emotional, and academic ways. That is the true fruit of sustainable work, transformed lives that now help transform others. Once again, thank you. City of San Jose for this recognition and for believing in the power of humanitarian service that we, as a city or city in the neighborhood organization, have offered for many years. May God bless our city and every person committed to the well-being of the families of San Jose. Blessings to all. Okay, thank you very much. >> [snorts] >> Thank you. >> All right. Thank you, colleagues, for those ceremonial items. We're on to orders of the day. Does anyone on the council have any changes to the printed agenda? I'm not aware of any. I don't see any hands, so we will move on to the closed session report. The mayor and council met in closed session on the items listed on the agenda, and there's nothing to report out at this time. Great. Thank you, Susanna. Uh we're on to the consent calendar. Do Does um Are there any items the council would like to pull from consent? Okay, do we have a motion? So moved. Second. Great. Tony, do we have public comment on consent? I have no cards for this. Okay, coming back to the council. I'm not seeing any hands, so let's vote. Motion passes unanimously. Great, thank you. We're on to the report of the city manager, item 3.1. Thank you, Mayor. I do not have a report today. Okay. Thank you, Jennifer. We're on to item 3.3, sewer rate setting audit report. We'll give Joe and the team a second to settle in, and then uh when you're ready, Joe, go ahead. Good morning, Mayor. >> My apologies. So, good afternoon. I'm Jerry Royster, City Auditor. I'm here with Abela Obi and Howard Haywood to present our audit of sewer rates, reviewing rate model assumptions, and developing reserve policies that would improve the rate setting process. Also in the box is Jeff Provenzano, the director of Environmental Services Department. The city sets sewer rates to recover the costs of providing sanitary sewer and wastewater treatment services to residents and businesses. ESD sets the rates based on the overall volume of a customer's wastewater and the concentration of pollutants of the wastewater. The concentration of pollutants is also referred to as the strength of the wastewater. All customers pay the same unit rate for each wastewater component that ESD, or Environmental Services Department, treats. How a customer is billed, however, depends on the type of residence or business and the assumed or actual volume and strength of their wastewater. The objective of this audit was to assess the city's process for setting sewer rates. We had three findings. The first finding was that ESD should review assumptions within its rate model rate model. ESD's rate model follows guidelines set by the state, which provides a reasonable basis for allocating costs to users. Integral to the rate model are assumptions about the volume and strength of wastewater, which can affect how we San Jose set sewer rates. We found that in 2014, the state determined the city's rate model complied with clean water state revolving fund requirements. We also found that a 2015 consultant study reported that the strength of wastewater reaching the regional wastewater facility did not match what was assumed in the rate model. However, the study recommended continuing with the current strength parameters until field sampling occurs. At the time of the audit, that the field sampling had not yet occurred. I will note that during the audit, ESD hired a consultant to begin that work. So, we have recommendations to ensure its rate model assumptions reflect current conditions. ESD should study assumptions in the rate model and update as necessary. Update procedures around when assumptions should be reviewed, and consider implementing a software solution for rate calculations. Second finding was that ESD should develop formal reserve policies. ESD maintains reserves in the sewer service and use charge fund for operations and capital projects. We found that the amount of funds held in reserves and unrestricted fund balance in the fund has fluctuated over time. And ESD did not have formal policies defining the intended purposes or set its or setting target levels for reserves in the fund, whereas we found formal reserve policies or practices are common among other wastewater utilities. To enhance risk management and planning for future needs, we recommended that ESD develop a formal policy for sewers fund reserves that defines their intended use and target levels. The last finding was that ESD could improve transparency around the rate setting process. We found it that consolidating procedures on the frequency of wastewater sampling would improve transparency for how bills are calculated for industrial users. We also noted that ESD's sewer rate webpage could be enhanced with clearer explanations of how rates are set. So, to improve transparency, we recommend recommended ESD document procedures for sampling decisions and notifying users of changes as appropriate and updating the sewer rate webpage to and add clear rate setting explanations. Report has six recommendations. Want to thank Environmental Services Department for their time and insight during the process. I ask you accept the report. I'm happy to answer any questions, but first I'll turn it over to Jeff for the administration's response. Thank you. Thank you, Joe. Um and generally the administration's administrative response is as in this report. Generally, all the items that are recommended are green-lighted from our perspective. We're very happy um as always to work with the auditor's office. Have a good deep dive into our programs is always appreciated. Um good recommendations and looking forward to working on those and returning to council when they're completed. Great. Thank you. Appreciate the report. Let's go to public comment if we have any, Tony. I have no comments for this item. Okay. Move acceptance of the report. Second. Okay. Let's see another hands. Tony looks vote. Motion passes unanimously. Okay. Thank you, all. Under item 3.4, reasonable accommodation process and personal property impound handling. We have a staff presentation. So, give everybody a moment. >> Good afternoon Mayor and City Council. My name is John Ciccarelli. I'm the Director of Parks, Recreation, and Neighborhood Services. With me today, Deputy Director Olympia Williams. Next to her, Director Zulma Maciel from the Office of Racial Equity. Um as Racial and Social Equity, I should say. Uh as well as uh uh You see your attorney? For your attorney? Senior Senior Deputy Attorney Johnny Fan. Um we're here to talk to you today about uh revisions to uh the existing property impound process as well as a review of uh our accommodations process. The accommodations process is ahead of an abatement um where we have a uh process that we developed last year um to ensure anybody who needs an accommodation uh can reach out to us and we can try to make that accommodation happen. Um with respect to accommodations, uh well with both, we're responding here to uh former council direction to provide review of the accommodation process and training if needed as well as a review of the property impound process as well as training if needed. Um in this case, we are uh actually recommending some revisions to the storage procedure. Who is it? Okay. So, with that, I'm going to hand it over to uh Zulma and she's going to talk about uh her findings. Good afternoon Mayor and City Council. Zulma Maciel, Director of the City Manager's Office of Racial and Social Equity. Um happy to be here today. This is by way of the council directive where the city manager's office of racial and social equity uh was directed to conduct a review of the current reasonable accommodation protocols and training materials. And um the review included uh multifaceted, which is the multiple meetings with housing and parks, recreation, and neighborhood services. We also did desk review of documents and uh recently a field observation. The review confirmed that the city's existing process meets legal requirements, but identified targeted operational improvements to enhance consistency and transparency. Around the data collection and reporting, we we noticed that while departments are generally following established procedures, current tracking methods are decentralized and do not fully capture accommodation activity, particularly short-term or informal accommodations that are granted in the field. So, some accommodations can happen at at that very moment. They're just not all documented. Additionally, we believe that reasonable accommodations process for our encampment engagements should be clearly defined and transparent. And to address this, we recommend that the disability affairs officer work directly with the housing department, public works, parks and rec to clearly define the process and ensure all data tracking and reporting is centralized. Uh we also believe that it would be important for the disability affairs officer and members of our team in the office of racial and social equity to continue to work with parks and rec to review existing documentation used by Beautify San Jose during abatements where reasonable accommodations can be included and routed to housing for data reporting. The third area that we looked at, which was around the outreach and communications, so this is simply informing. Um standard forms exist, but there are limited plain language materials explaining how to request an accommodation. Uh the memorandum identifies the need for clearer accessible public-facing guidance. So, we currently are working with departments to develop a simplified multilingual fact sheet explaining eligibility, examples of accommodations, how to request one, and what to expect in the process. These materials will be distributed during outreach and made available online prior to abatements. In the area around training, staff have already received reasonable accommodation training, but moving forward, we will support departments in updating training materials and protocols to better account for both visible and invisible disabilities and address ableism as it relates to abatement and housing processes to ensure services are equitable and accessible. We also want to support departments in formalizing onboarding and refresher trainings and embedding accommodation guideline guidance into all operational trainings. This ensures accommodations are not treated as separate processes, but integrated into standard field operations. So, in closing, I just want to thank Parks and Rec, Housing, and the City Attorney staff members for their collaboration. We as the Office of Racial and Social Equity look forward to continuing our work together as we focus on strengthening implementation, documentation, and communication to our unhoused disabled community members. Okay. Next, we're going to talk about uh personal impound. Uh but first, I'm going to play a quick video, just a couple minutes um to set a little context uh as we talk about changes we make and why. Okay, so this video is actually of an a recent encampment abatement we did just south of here near Willow uh along the Waterloo Bay. You can see a tent there. You see some items in the foreground storage, gas tank, gas cans, you'll see a few of those. Um you can see lots of bike parts. Obviously, there's a a fair amount of debris um that's laying around. Uh this particular campsite had a had a quite an interest in storage containers, so you'll see a lot of those um here. You'll see things like suitcases, um mostly empty. Um you know, more oil, uh more gas. Um you can see um as as we look through this and and try to imagine how difficult it is for our staff as we're working through something like this to try to decide, well, okay, is there a pair of eyeglasses down under that somewhere? Um which is something we would want to preserve certainly if we found it. Um but it gets a pretty difficult to to go through all this stuff. And when we see all these gas cans, you know, we won't store hazardous materials and things like that. We don't do that uh as a practice if there was gas in them. Um you can see there's furniture um in in some of this video. There was a large couch just earlier um that I didn't highlight. There's also a pretty good-sized bureau. All of these are sitting outside um and and exposed to the elements. Um we're going to talk about bulky things like couches and and uh bureaus and things like that. Uh you can see the staff is sort of working through and just trying to assess more or less where we're going to start. You just saw a little grill there. If that was in good shape, that's something we could hang on to. Um and again, more storage, more items just piled up and then trash. Um you know, different things are bagged up. Um different things may be boxed up. Um again, more bike parts. You'll notice there was more than one encampment here. In particular, there's one that was quite a bit bigger, and when I say encampment, I mean more than one tent. Uh there was a tent there that was clearly bigger than the 12 by 12. You could see again more bike parts and so on. So, I think you get the flavor um, that uh, when we're in here, um, it's hard to figure out what is exactly going on. Now, there are there are are encampments and tents where people are there and um, we they've got everything kind of in their tent and they're they're kind of got it all well kept, but I'll tell you usually on by the time we get there on the morning of abatement, they've left. Um, and in encampments like this, they're they've not listened to our guidance, they've not heard our uh, conversations and our postings about, "Hey, we want you to remove your stuff before we get to the abatement." Um, and that's an important piece of context to set here, uh, as we get into these next slides, which is that, you know, there's there's a lot of comments about, you know, signing to release your property or asking us to keep your property. The only time that we're taking personal property that we think is valuable and needs to be protected is when the person isn't there. Right? So, there isn't someone there to say, "That's mine. I'm taking it." So, we have to have a process then that's fair enough that says, "Okay, we'll protect this because it's important." Um, but we can only hold on to those things for so much time and our expectation in the conversations we're having and the postings that we're putting up are all saying, "Remove your personal belongings. Remove your personal belongings before the abatement." Um, our focus here is also on the constitutional rights of those individuals to their property. So, what you'll notice as I'm walking through this, really the focus is on that 12 by 12. We've talked about it before many times in council. We want people to be in a 12 by 12 space. That's really where we want to focus our efforts on protecting your personal property. As you can see in an encampment like this, and that is not a particularly unusual site, um, that is very difficult to do when it's all strewn about like that and intermixed with things that are clearly not that valuable and they they're not working or they're covered in dirt or biohazards or things like that. So, sorting through that's problematic and so really what we're trying to do is get people to focus down on what's inside your tent. Um but no matter what, we when we get there, we're going to be documenting everything that's outside, as well as making sure if we run across something that's an indispensable life necessity, like glasses or a cane or something like that, we will certainly try to store it. But it's not always possible for us to even see these things when it's all piled up like this. So, I'm just giving some context. Um I also want to make sure you understand that what we're going to talk about today, and the way we impound and hold things, does not apply to any property that's inside a vehicle, okay? An RV or a car or anything like that. That's subject to a whole different set of the vehicle code, and it's already got its own process. So, that what we're talking about is when this is on the street, uh you know, on the side of the trail or in the in the woods or wherever, and it's an encampment not a vehicle itself. Now, that doesn't mean we can't do anything about the stuff that's surrounding a vehicle or an RV that's on the street and on the sidewalk. We do go through that stuff. Um So, just to I've talked about sort of the purpose and why we're here, and that we're protecting constitutional rights. I do want to point out that one of our um we're not only asking first that you approve uh our report back to you, but also that uh you delegate the back to the city manager the authority to update this policy as uh as it uh changes, because uh if you've been around for a little bit, you know that uh the court system and the legal system is still wrestling with this this issue. Not just this issue, but many things around homelessness and living outside. There's a lot of case law that you have to go through, but there's not a lot of like law that's just written about it. So, it tends to be case law actions, and so sorting through that's problematic. And when it when it happens, then we have to be able to adjust. Um so, here's some highlights of things that uh uh that we've changed or revised. We've certainly uh clarified a lot of different uh storage presumptions. Talk We talk about things like what's bulk personal property and I'll talk about it in a second. Um but also um the kind of things and I'll give you some examples that we're really looking for when we're doing an abatement. So, any kind of government ID is important, medications, I talked about glasses, if the tent is in good shape, an operable bike. In that in that video you saw a lot of bike parts, but if it was an fully assembled bike that worked, we'd store that, but mostly what we see are bike parts. Um medical equipment I mentioned, photos for example that that are sitting in the tent or something like that. These are the kind of things and more that that we would seek to store. Um things we wouldn't would be things that are that are either biohazards or covered in biohazards. Um just stuff that's trash and we define what we call trash in this in this uh procedure. Um things that are perishable. We don't store food. Um it rots pretty quickly and and creates a lot of problems. Um hazardous materials. I pointed out some of the gas cans, but we also see a lot of things like propane tanks and stuff like that. Uh we also see has uh uh uh contraband. Um and those sorts of things would be turned over to the police and disposed of appropriately and so on. With respect to bulk personal property, um we we created a definition that basically says we'll store anything um that we don't consider bulk that can fit into any a 60-gallon jug that can be covered. That's just regular storage. Anything bigger than that we're considering bulk storage. So, in that video you noticed there were uh there was a very big couch. It's longer than this thing I'm sitting at here. That's not something we would end up storing. That one was standing up out in the dirt and uh it's it wasn't in in the condition to store. Um we also uh don't want to make we don't want to uh we we when we see couches for the most part they're not in very good shape out there. So, we don't we don't anticipate having to store a lot of huge items. But there are some bigger things that may come up and that are in of good enough condition and aren't broken or things like that that we could store. You know, another thing in there I saw you'll you would see in the video, if you go back and look at it, there was two or three sort of mini to medium refrigerators. Not the kind that you the big size you'd have in your in your kitchen, but maybe something you might have in a dorm or an office, the smaller size. If that was working and and all that, then we could pick that up and store it and wasn't damaged, but uh often times they're not working. These things tend to be sourced for scrap. So, they're trying to strip some things out of them, make make sell them back to recyclers and get some money. Um speaking of storage, we are updating some of the time frames. So, currently right now we store for 90 days. We're recommending we dial that back to 30 days, and that is in part at least because we're expanding the definition of what we're going to store. Um we are currently still in the process of looking for more storage space. Um we're we're a little bit worried about some of the bulk storage, um but as I said, a lot of the bigger stuff isn't in very good shape to begin with um to qualify for storage, but certainly there could be uh or would be um including like a fully assembled bike. Um and for those bulk storage items, we're planning to go to 14 days instead of 30 days. Now, I want to point out in both of these cases, these are minimum storage dates. So, let's say we picked up some storage items uh from Olympia's encampment, uh but Olympia wasn't there that day. So, we have Olympia's stuff stored. We haven't heard from Olympia and about a week later, somebody calls. Let's say it's an advocate or a case worker or a friend and says, "Hey, I know you were here and you took Olympia's X, Y, and Z, but she's been in the hospital. Um you know, she hasn't gotten out yet." We are happy to hold on to things longer for that. That's not That's not really the issue. The issue is is turning these things over. What our our thus far has been is that it's it's single digits in terms of percentages of people that come to reclaim stuff that we've picked up and stored. Now, since we're sort of broadening that net now, maybe that'll that will pick up and we'll learn more about that and and see if maybe there's more of that happening. Um and I will also add just like UPS, we deliver. So, if your store if something of yours is stored with us, you call us, we will be in touch with you within 72 hours. We will not dispose of anything without checking our storage lines before disposing to make sure we didn't get a last minute call. We will respond to you within 72 hours and then we will arrange to bring your property to you a location time of your choosing within the city obviously within reason. Um so, it's we're trying to make it as convenient as we can understanding that we're kind of in a disorganized and chaotic system that we're trying to bring organization to. Which leads me to the documentation. In the documentation, we will increase the amount of photographs we take and the amount of video we take. We had some electronic storage issues and we so we were trying to limit the amount we do so many abatements and take so many photos and videos that we were challenging our ability to store this. So, we've resolved that issue. And so, we have a protocol. There'll be a full video outside and inside much like what you just saw here where where it's just someone walking across the whole thing and sort of getting that macro view and then really dialing in especially when we see personal storage or if we see something that might usually qualify for personal storage but let's say it had feces all over it. We'd say, "Well, we're not going to store it but we're going to photograph it and we're going to say, okay, we saw this. We know it was there and here's why we didn't store this, right?" So, that again we have that information that we can share. And then the training. And as Zuma mentioned this uh, on on uh, accommodation side, but also on the uh, property impound side. Um, A, you have to be trained before you can do any of this work in the field, and that includes all of our vendors, or the conservation corps, anybody that's going to work with us to do this. They would have to be trained. We require two times a year refresher training. So, if you're new, you got to train first before you can get in the field, but you'll get a training later in the year again. Um, and then uh, that training is designed to sort of I would say evolve with the conditions and things that are going on out there. This already already the way we do things isn't the same way we did them just 3 years ago. So, again, I want to emphasize this is an evolving area, and we're just trying to kind of keep up um, and make sure that we can um, uh, ensure that A, we're keeping the city clean. We're not allowing any kind of a health crisis uh, to develop, but also that if we pick up someone's personal belongings, we want to get them back to them. We We don't have an interest in keeping them, and we're not trying to keep them from them. Um, so, uh, we talked about the encampment. This would have been where the video was. You can see a few more pictures there though um, of just kind of kind of what we're we're engaged in and and how difficult it is, uh, sometimes. I think we go to that last one. Um, and then uh, just a note, um, here at the end. You know, we have as everybody's aware, we have our our budget uh, uh, headwinds, if you will. Um, we always we always have those, it seems, uh, and so staff resources are always something to worry about. I know the city manager's talked with the council previously about optimizing certain programs, um, and what can be refined. BSJ is one of those. Through that process, we've not traditionally had someone just assigned uh, to to answer the phone line uh, for personal property storage. It's a secondary duty. Um, this will allow us to actually assign that that work um and make sure it's given the attention it needs so we can meet our our uh target of within 72 hours we're in touch with you um and we're arranging to get your uh property back. Um and we will also, as I mentioned, uh greatly improve our documentation. It's not that we weren't doing it, it just weren't doing enough. We should do more. That is also part of the training and how to do that and how to properly do that. Um and as I mentioned, we're working right now and in fact, I think we have a line on a place potentially uh that we could use to do the personal storage. Some people ask why we don't um have why do we don't give out locations of where we store things. We did do that in the past and it unfortunately then uh it would get broken into and people would steal things out of there. Um we have that problem across our system with other things uh as it is. Um it can be just our equipment for maintaining parks. Um it can get broken into and stolen. So, we want to be careful not to really broadcast it. That's why we focus on we'll deliver to you um so that we don't have to worry about that. And actually, it's very it's more convenient anyways. Most folks in these encampments don't have transportation of their own. Um so they would either have to get someone to take them there or pay for transportation to get there somehow. This way it gets it right to you. Um so with that again, I'll just repeat by asking that you approve the revised personal property impound standard operating procedure um and uh delegate authority to city manager or designee to administratively amend that procedure in coordination with our city attorney's office. And with that, we're ready for any questions or comments. Great. Thank you all very much. Appreciate all of your hard work out in the field and this update. Tony, do we have public comment? Yes, I have about five cards. Um so when I call you, you do not have to come down in the order that you're called. Um first person to microphone, go ahead and speak. I've Brian Darby, John Betts, Batman, Amanda, and Sandy Perry, come on down. Um I know that's quite a bit of work and um I'm pretty good at AI and offering my uh services free if people want help setting up maybe a a better way to monitor on it and feedback to people who are trying to get their items back. Thank you. Thank you. Next speaker. Good afternoon, Council members. My name is Sandy Perry. I'm speaking today for the Unhoused Response Group, and we're supporting the letter that was put into all of you by the Law Foundation of Silicon Valley and the REAL Coalition, uh calling for changes in the reasonable accommodation and the property impoundment standard operating procedures. Only 8% of the RAs were approved, and only 6% of the impounded property was recovered by the owners. The current system isn't working. Um the least we can do is establish minimal procedures to protect constitutional rights, civil rights, and human rights of the poorest people in San Jose. The uh we support a civilian review board to oversee both the RA process and the uh property standard operating procedure. When this property operating procedure was first established, I think it was back around 2010 or 2015, uh we were called in, a bunch of advocates and a bunch of people actually from encampments were called in to give input and to help develop that process. Uh that doesn't seem to be happening anymore. Um we also support what was raised in the Law Foundation letter that we have to stop the practices of sweeps with no prior outreach ahead of time. Um I don't know if that's something that's going to be abandoned from now on by the City Council after uh the work at Columbus Park. I know there's promises that are being made about the jungle, but um there's still a lot of people out there and a lot of cases and a lot of danger of people that are going to end up being swept with no outreach, no opportunity to get into shelter, no opportunity to get into housing. Joint Venture Silicon Valley uh pointed out that we are the richest area in the history of in human history. And uh we also have the largest disparity in wealth of any era area in human >> Thank you. That's your time. Next speaker. Hello. Uh my name is John Betts and I'm with the uh SO a group called SOS, Survivors of the Street. Uh and I support what Sandy was saying very much uh support what the the Unhoused Response Group letter and all that they have been recommending. I am Yeah, I stand in the same way that sweeping is and has been very destructive to the people that's targeted at and unconstitutional. So, um even though it's nice of you to be trying to treat people's belongings better and maybe finally have a good s- way of really keeping track of people's belongings and having them to get it back you know, proper fashion or have it happen at all. It still doesn't remove the fact that sweeping itself is very destructive and really is a a terrible, tragic thing that you have been continued to do to the victims of your sweeps. So, yeah, it's good that you're trying to finally make some kind of accommodations with this horrible situation of um people's stuff supposedly being saved for them to have later, but generally all you ever hear is hardly anybody ever got any of their stuff back. And I have witnessed sometimes the people doing the sweeps, someone would say, "Oh, aren't you saving these people's belongings?" And they say, "Oh, oh no, I never heard of anything like that." I've witnessed that kind of conversation myself. So, well, good luck with trying to implement something a lot more constitutional and humane. Thank you. Thank you. Next speaker, also Emma and Mary, come on down. Hello. My name is Amanda Cole. I'm also from SOS, Survivors of the Street, and I have survived the street, living in vehicles, and shelters for 10 years until 8 years ago when I joined the street team, and they helped me get housing. Um my question is, whose grandma will we sweep today? Uh and whose RV will we take away, which is their uh their home, their security? And uh the tow companies don't actually have a good way to even process those homes that they take away. And what is the justification for the sweeping? Um I'm not I'm not clear on it it seems like it's causing a huge amount of work to be to sweeping and so many sweeps happening, as was talked about. Good solution is to stop the sweeping. That would eliminate the need for all of this uh new figuring out. And and the storage spaces are are limited. So, instead of just trying to find viable alternatives to sweeping, which would be housing people in supportive permanent housing and non-commodifying housing. Uh I my asks would be are to join the Thursday lunches that are on the 17th floor to talk about the Olive pilot program and the beautify San Jose, to meet with us because we have a lot of ideas. We know 10,000 very motivated people to find their own housing. Open a navigation center. Open a free restaurant. There's lots of vacant buildings. Uh Farming Hope has a vocational program for training people to be in the culinary business. Um I think the street team that got disbanded was a shame and I hopefully it's built up and >> Thank you. That's your time. Next speaker. So, I feel like we do this song and dance every 6 to 12 months. And I'm sick as hell right now, so I'm going to keep this brief. Um I really appreciate the efforts from staff to try and make up for the shortcomings of the past with this policy. I want to support what my previous speakers have also said where we need those policies in place as well. Um but on top of all of that, I think what everyone is looking for here is accountability. Accountability is thrown around all the time when we're talking about people living on the street, but not ever considered when we're talking about when policy is not executed correctly. I've been at I don't know how many sweeps now, um trying to help support people when they're getting their belongings taken from them, when they're going through this very traumatic experience. And all often times these policies that we have, previous policies, current policy, they're not respected by the people who are, you know, conducting these sweeps. I think what I would like to see on top of everything that staff has recommended is some sort of accountability process when things go wrong. When there is mistreatment of people with a disability, when there is a mistreatment of somebody who has had a um important item taken from them, and then they can't get it back. Accountability goes both ways here. It's not It's not a one-way street. And I've often times I'll find that the people who are struggling to manage their belongings are the same people who need those accommodations. And what I think we really need to do is have some sort of an accountability process for when things go wrong. On top of being more supportive and more understanding of the people and their situations that Thank you. That's your time. Next speaker, I'd also like to call down Shawn. Hey everyone, this is Emma from SURJ. Um I'm here today to uplift the recommendations from the Law Foundation, Real Coalition, and the Urge and Grace letters. Um and I also just want to share that again, really appreciate the work from staff to improve these policies, and I also remain concerned about the theory versus the practice. Um what we saw at Columbus Park was every day, dozens and dozens of people not being given any opportunity to indicate which personal belongings they wanted to keep, which personal belongings were important to them. Literally just being if they weren't there, all of their stuff in the dump immediately. If they were there, being told, "Okay, you can take two trash bags of belongings and everything else is going in the dump." The only person over the entire sweep of Columbus who I saw be able to keep their personal belongings or regain access to them, it was because they were brutally arrested and I believe there was probably some sort of awareness that there could be legal action involved and that was the only person who I or any advocate I know saw their belongings stored during that sweep. Um, so just to say the practice and the actual impact on people's lives is very important. Um, and for that reason I really want to uplift all the recommendations made in those letters and also, um, just really ask that, um, the full policy be made available and for input and consultation from the actual people with lived experience, from currently and formerly unhoused folks, that the implementation, the sweeps be delayed until there can be actually like finally revised policy with input from the folks with lived experience. Obviously, the housing outreach is essential and needs to continue, but we should not be sweeping folks when these policies are just barely being revised and we don't have accountability mechanisms. We need like a civilian review board, right? This should not be all just under the city manager who, again, like I'm sure will work very hard on implementing the policy, but has not lived through a sweep. And if the sweeps have to go forward, um, in April and on the current schedules, then just really hope that you all will be out there with us to see what people are having to go through every day. Um, thank you. Thank you. Next speaker. I'm Mary Adzick. Um, I'm here with SURJ, Show Up for Racial Justice. I'm going to be really brief. Um, this policy it doesn't appear to have, um, an adequate notice system for people to be ready before the sweep. And at the time of the sweep, it doesn't sound like there's that much that's allowed either. And um I don't know if there's any way to actually help people to accomplish dealing with their belongings. I I would love to see that. Um but probably isn't going to happen anytime soon. Um and I I I have some concern about the city manager's office having so much um responsibility here. Um I I I'm not sure where the oversight would come from. Um but I would like to see that. And I I'd like to see some reflection and to come back with a better policy. Thank you. Next speaker. How many small claims cases has the city settled in 2025 or ongoing for lost property? Today, I'm asking for well-thought-out policies for both RA and property prior to initiating the sweeps of the jungle and Olander. Two very different camps with very different needs. That the council agrees to create an independent civilian oversight board to not only assist with this, but to also continue with issues that arise with RA and the property process. That the council agrees to come back with a more fleshed-out RA policy. That no policy be left to the city manager. Council and the oversight committee should approve changes. That the council insists Google Translate not be used for V Spedat or intake, but rather fully bilingual staff always be on hand and other people in camps not be asked to translate. That the council direct the NIQOL team to not interfere with camps that are being swept. This means not harass, increase arrest, or intimidate people who the city is trying to shelter. These actions create fear, panic, and do not increase cooperation. Um the differences between the two camps. One camp needs extreme outreach uh because they are primarily monolingual. And the other camp needs outreach because they're primarily LGBTQ. Uh lastly, that the mayor stop falsely reporting that everyone from these camps is going to Saroni, which is against the housing throughput model. Just as people weren't provided bus passes upon being shipped to Rue Ferrari and Bernal, many people are unwilling to find themselves stranded essentially in Milpitas, which is also not a bi- Spanish bilingual community. People do not want to be shipped to an area where they have no community. This is something that is for your department, and that's where I think you could be crucial. Thank you very much for your time, and I appreciate you not looking at me every time. Thank you. Next speaker. My name is Obadiah. I'm a resident here uh since 2008. Uh I came from Nigeria, and unfortunately, I'm homeless now. I've been working for 15 years until this year. A year ago, I became homeless, and the situation has not become easier all up to now. So, I'm I'm working to make sure my situation is better. However, I wrote something here to present to the council. Uh I want to speak directly to the heart of service workers that are in this city. Um Anybody did not choose this work and say that the work is easy. The work is not easy, and I want to appreciate every single person that work in the council and work in the field with the homeless people. I really appreciate it. Uh however, there are things that I know that have been going on in the street and in the homeless com- homeless uh uh spaces that are actually really hurting the homeless instead of making the homeless become better in the future. So, um I want to read this and if you give me a little bit of time because of my accent and I'm a little bit nervous here. This my first time to be here, so >> [snorts] >> um They start because they care. The people that work in service everybody cares. That's why we start working in service. And because we care or we care about people, please don't forget about the reason why you start working in service to serve people because people are more important than the things even that we we we have we are losing. I think I've lost more while I'm homeless than when I'm I had my place. I'm sorry that's your time. Back to council. Thank you. And sir, if you have a write-up, you are welcome to leave it with the clerk to distribute to the council. Thank you. Um okay, going back to the council, we will start with Councilmember Campos. Thank you, Mayor. And I want to begin um by thanking staff for uh today's presentation. Um thank you to the office of racial and uh social justice and equity, the housing department, and uh PRNS for preparing today's um item. We know that this is meaningful and important work in our city and I appreciate the steps that staff are taking to strengthen training, documentation, and coordination to improve these processes. It's clear that this is an ongoing process that will continue to evolve and hopefully improve over time. Um I do have a few questions. So, the first is as centralized tracking is implemented, how will council be able to evaluate patterns and outcomes over time to ensure that our policy and funding decisions are based on accurate and complete information? Thank you, Council member. Um, I think probably the simplest way is incorporating some of these metrics and details about how it's going. You know, we we come through NSE committee twice a year on the focus area around homelessness. And so, it seems like this would make sense to be there. And then I think if the if the committee thought, well, something rises to the level of council, you know, they could make that recommendation. Thank you, John. Um, we also heard in public comment the importance of incorporating lived experience into how these policies are implemented. And I agree that lived experience can strengthen how systems function in practice, particularly as this work continues to evolve. So, as we move forward on implementation, what mechanism will the city use to incorporate lived experience into ongoing process improvements? Uh, it's good question. We don't have a specific process set up for that. Um, we are in the encampments though every day, everywhere talking to people living outdoors. We have people that work for us doing this work that have their own lived experience uh with this. Um, so we hear directly from the individuals who are being abated or having struggles with the storage or concerns about how to get it. So, I feel like we have a very direct line. Um, you know, remember we do a whole bunch of lines of service. We're not just there abating. We're there in particular uh on a weekly or bi-weekly basis to pick up trash from you. Um, and those are conversations that you're having in those moments over and over and over again getting no. So, I do feel like we have a a pulse on what people's primary concerns are. Can we answer every concern? Or, you know, sometimes people are suggesting, "Well, there needs to be appeals processes or uh longer storage periods or more things you should store." You know, that's that's all policy conversations about sort of how far do you push the line one way or the other? You know, we talked about some of our resource constraints and and capacity. That's part of the consideration as well, along with of course first and foremost ensuring we're protecting those legal rights. That's what this is primarily about. Um so, that people can retrieve their property and are treated correctly. This is all, by the way, in the noticing as well. Um so, I feel like we have that line. I don't know that we need to set up one. I know there used to be one years ago. I can't remember some years ago it just stopped me. It was the pandemic that kind of uh might have ended it like so many other things. Um you know, I'm certain I could have a conversation with the director of housing about whether or not they want to stand up some kind of a uh process or group um to work with, but we don't currently have one. Thank you for that answer, John. Um one note I took from the public comment that really stood out to me was um uh how the importance of bilingualism in making sure that we are communicating effectively um especially that human-to-human uh translation uh as much as possible. So, I just wanted to call that out from the public comment. And um you also mentioned during the presentation um around personal property standard operating procedure not applying to vehicle tow situations. And so, from a systems perspective, I want to better understand how these policies interact when a vehicle or RV is towed, how is personal property inside that vehicle classified and documented, and is there any procedural bridge between the towing authority and personal property protections? So, there's really two things we're looking at when we when we have a vehicle um that is being towed. And I mentioned this a little bit in the presentation. The first part is what's outside the vehicle. That's what we concern ourselves with on the beautify team. Uh once the vehicle's towed, it goes into an impound process. So, there are very specific laws, and I can't recite them for you here, that dictate how that property is to be handled, and it's a whole separate system from what we do. And it's related to the tow operator and their business practices. I don't know if anything you want to clarify on that? No. Okay. So, they're kind of two separate things. That's why I didn't get too into the what's inside a vehicle. It's just treated very differently. And in fact, in most cases, what's the point even taking the personal stuff out of the vehicle? Might as well leave it in there. It's secure. Um rather than now we're going to take it out and create a whole new system and process for that. It just I don't think it makes a lot of sense that way, either. I I was just going to jump in and and say, yes, the the materials inside the vehicle are held to a different standard um within state law. We have found that it's more beneficial for the individuals to leave those items in the car because they are allowed additional access and protection when it's there. So, we've kept that as a status quo for now, but it'll be something that we continue to review as we continue with the work. Thank you. I have just one more question. Um for review processes to be meaningful, timing matters. So, can staff please clarify what review or appeal processes are available and at what stage they occur if there is an individual who disagrees with either a reasonable accommodation determination or a personal property classification decision? Uh I'll start on the personal property. We we don't have an appeals process for that. You know, I mentioned as part of what we wrote in the language, for For the the time frame for which we hold it um is qualified by saying it's at a minimum of that amount. You know, we're flexible, have been, this is not new for us. You know, people get in go to the hospital or uh sometimes go to jail, things like that, and things happen. We get that. Um again, most of the time when we're doing abatement, people are either when we arrive, they're either finishing up, grabbing whatever personal stuff they're going to take, and they've left, or they've already left. Right? This is really focusing on the people who aren't there, their stuff. Um and it's and it's it's narrow in that way. If you're there, we're going to say take whatever you want to take with you, everything else we're going to dispose of. So, we tell them right there, just take it. Um and one of the things we've done um to make that a little easier, so uh our our current process is on the day of abatement, we've been noticing for who knows how long, and and we know that you know that we're coming on this date and that we're going to abate. So, if you're still there and you haven't started yet, we don't actually give you a ton of time, cuz we've been working and telling you all along. Um this is what was going on in Columbus. There's nobody that can convince me that the people living in Columbus Park did not know that there was an abatement coming. We were meticulous about posting and talking and creating lists and lists and names and everything. Um any big abatement is that way. Um and large abatements, we would we would in in as part of this policy, we would not uh abate uh inside of 72 hours just because of the complexity of it. Most abatements though get 72 hours. There are a few abatements, so if you just popped up on the street, we're going to you can't be in the street, right? We have our setbacks. If you were right next to a school within the setback, you're going to get abated immediately. But, typically in those cases, you just take your stuff with you and go. That's what we're trying to accomplish, and that's generally what happens. And generally what's left behind is not uh high-quality material. We don't have a process for you to say uh you shouldn't have taken my other than obviously you could go to the court and make a claim, but we don't have any kind of internal process or appeals process, and I'm not even sure what it would be for with respect to us taking personal property when the person is not there. And then zoom up probably on the accommodations. Um I you know, we have not been steeped into the accomm- reasonable accommodations process, but from our review there are established grievance procedures in the note out on the public public works webpage, um which does say that within 15 calendar days there needs to be a response. Um having said that, we also recognize that you know, that one of the recommendations that we're making is that we have to make this process in a way that's um accessible, so that it is standard plain language, that it's multilingual, and so people understand what the process is without having to go to different places in the city. Thank Thank you for those responses. Um and I am going to move that we accept the staff recommendation and um request that staff return to NSE, the Neighborhood Services and Education Commi- Committee, um where in June we'll have the City Council Focus Area Status Report on reducing unsheltered homelessness, and as John mentioned, that might be a good opportunity for an implementation update. So that is um part of my motion to accept the staff recommendation and then request an implementation update at the June NSE meeting. Second. Thank you. Thanks, Council Member. Council Member Cormack. Uh thank you for um the presentation and report, and and I want to thank everyone who is involved in uh in this situation. Uh you know, I want to lift up something, and and I'm sorry that he left uh before you know, just recently. You know, we received the information of what um and I hope I can pronounce his name correctly Obadiah said that no one signs up for this work because it's easy. Um and it's true. People care. And and I think that we've gone through a whole iterative process, you know, what we were doing last year or the year before is different. I wanted to know what is the ratio of staff versus contractors because one of the things that has been brought to my attention is some of the inconsistency in training. I know that there was a sort of a mixed of, you know, staff doing some of the work, contractors doing some of the work. So I'm curious because the the the largest complaint that I have received is the inconsistency. And I think when you have that, you know, it becomes problematic. Thank you, Council member. So at the beginning um it's about a one-to-one ratio of vendor personnel to our own personnel, but our personnel lead every abatement. So we're in charge of the situation. We're directing their work. Um there's also um Oh, um I mentioned earlier the the process of optimizing beautify. Through that process we will become less reliant on vendors. So that ratio is going to change and it will be more city staff than vendors out there going forward as we're in we're expecting to do fewer abatements going forward than the last year that went by. Okay, that's great because I think that, you know, the more that we can be more consistent. I think that, you know, you mentioned in the report that we're going to, you know, do training over and, you know, a period of time and have to retrain and all that kind of stuff, which is great, but, you know, if you're constantly uh, do not have control over who are the contractors' uh, staff. Uh, you know, I mean, their training may not be quite the same as ours. So, I I think that we ought to keep that in mind. Um, and then, you know, I know that um, uh, you know, in terms of uh, I mentioned it being an iterative process, and I'm glad it will be coming to NEC because um, you know, we we do want to improve. We do want to make things uh, better. So, um, I'm I'm really thrilled about that. So, thank you very much. Thanks, Council Member Council Duran. Thank you, Mayor. Thank you to PRNS and Beautify SJ. And thank you for all the speaker. My question is, when you run across a unsheltered residents who are have mental illness and unable to make the decision to what to bring with him or her, how do you deal with that? I missed the last part. What to bring what? To bring their belonging, right? They're they they have mental illness, and so they're indecisive on what is important, what is not in order to to to bring with them, right? Yeah, it's a It would be an unusual situation. Again, if they're there, we're saying, "Okay, take what's yours, and you have to take it." Uh, we do actually have, you know, if if we find that person is in crisis, we'd actually have therapeutic specialists that work with this team, and they're designed for situations like that. They just kind of come in, calm down, "Okay, John, let's walk through this. We have to help you collect your stuff." Now, in that situation, our abatement staff's going to probably go around that person, do other work, let that person work their magic with this individual, and try to help them get to a decision. Sometimes, they can find a case manager and get a hold of them and and get help, things like that. But typically people aren't there to begin with to even have that conversation. Okay. And thank you for that answer. What about a situation where you have a mother with two young kids and you know, kids sometimes they're they're running around and they find decide, "Okay, well, I I want to bring this and that." How do you allot a accommodation accommodation regarding timeline and and what how much they can bring and how much in the storage? So so the accommodation process which is done by housing department um you know, is well coordinated with what we do in terms of abatement. That is all What we're trying to do is assess that before the abatement in the first place. We learned this starting last summer. This is when this new process of accommodation started and we developed a process to make sure we were helping people get whatever accommodation that we could provide for them. Um and that's meant to be done before we get there for the abatement. So we work really hard at that. So we really at the time of abatement, we don't really run into that issue. Those people would have already been offered a way out probably, particularly in the bigger encampments. Now, outreach isn't with us at every abatement. I want to be clear about that. Typically they're around the bigger abatements. So we have a big one coming up in your district that you're familiar with. They'll be outreach all over that for weeks and a couple months, right? It's already happening now and we won't even get there till April. So that's all meant to be done ahead of time. Now, if it happens on the day of and somebody just springs it on us and go, "Oh, we didn't think you needed this accommodation." We'll pause on that person, okay, what needs to be done, call somebody and who needs to help, let's see what we can figure out for you. Is it just need help moving your stuff from A to B? Um you know, even if you're even if you're saying yes to housing, you might need help just moving your stuff into the housing because you're not capable. We can figure those things out at the time. So, we're able to be nimble like that. It's not we're not just a machine that's just, you know, going down not stopping. We you know, we take into account the circumstances at the moment in time. Thank you. And regarding the storage, what are the percentage of people actually retrieve their belonging after storage, you know, the minimum dates and so on? It's less than 10% Council Member. Um so, when we come back to NSE in June, we'll see has it changed from that. So, we'll be able to show you some historic data and then since March, you know, what's what's changed because assuming this is approved at Council, we'll be quickly updating all of our posting notices and everything to talk about what's the process, who do you call, what can you expect, you know, where do you go for these kind of things. So, all that will be pretty quickly updated so that people are understanding sort of what their rights are and how to get in touch with us if you're missing something. Um so, that's how we do it. Well, thank you very much. I know it's not a perfect process, but we we can always improve and and try to make people lives a little bit easier as a transition to either emergency interim housing or permanent shelter. Thank you again. Thanks Council Member. Just as we close out, I'll just add my thanks to staff. This is a really tough situation out on the streets for our homeless neighbors, of course, first and foremost. Also, city staff who I've visited many times in the field who are on the front lines providing trash pick up, outreach, um impromptu counseling, and taking a lot of feedback, and doing the really hard work of helping us manage our public spaces. So, I'm I'm grateful to our team. Obviously, you know, the current processes we followed are legal and in many cases go far above and beyond what the law requires and what most other cities do and yet we know in the spirit of continuous improvement that we can do better. We've gotten feedback that people have been, you know, have questions or confused, want to um see us do even better and that's the spirit of this update is staff really reflecting and thinking about how can we ensure it's as accessible as it can be in different languages, give people as much time and do our very best to store things and get them back to folks if they're not there at the time of abatement. So I just I appreciate staff continuing to bring forward improvements and acknowledge that we can always do better. I think that's always true across all of our departments, all of our service lines, but I just wanted to acknowledge the really difficult work uh but important work people are doing out there and and thank you uh for this update and continuing to do that work. Tony, let's vote on the motion from Council Member Campos. Motion passes unanimously. Okay. Great. Thank you all very much. We are on to item 3.5. This is the Committee Oversight Committee Annual Report on Measure T. We will um hear an update on allocations for fiscal year 24-25. We have a staff presentation. So we'll turn it over to Matt Lest, Director of Public Works, when he and the team are ready. >> Good afternoon council and mayor. I appreciate the time. We are here to present the citizen oversight committee for the measure T and with us are some of our committee members to present on the topic of measure T and how we performed last year with their audit. And so they're going to present on my behalf. We have some members who will introduce as they speak and we'll get going here. So Oops, back one too far. When you're ready. Uh, good afternoon Mr. Mayor, members of the city council. My name is Nick Cochran. I am a 40-year resident of District 6 and the current chair of the community oversight committee and to my right are Gary Cunningham from District 1 and Shruti Chandrashekar from District 9 representing District 9 and they were both former chairs and the three of us will be happy to answer any questions that you might have once we complete our very brief overview. Uh, as as Matt indicated this report which we deliver annually to the city council is as of the fiscal year ended June 30, 2025. Um, the full report our full report which is quite detailed was delivered to you folks about 3 weeks ago and what I'm going to do is highlight just a very few salient key points that I think uh uh, you should all be aware of that uh resulted in our findings. So, Matt, if you can Is it just hit that? Okay. So, no no This one? No, that's fine. Let's go. Yeah, next one. The one that you had. Sorry, I didn't see that one up there. Next one. Okay, so this bond measure was passed in 2018, called for $650 million primarily for infrastructure, disaster preparedness, and public safety. We issued 444, excuse me, $440 million worth of bonds in 2019 and 2021. And the remaining $209 million was actually issued in July of 2025, which will find its way into our report next year, and that will wrap up all of the issuance for Measure T. We are probably 2/3 to 3/4 of the way through spending for this a whole entire program. And uh Next slide, please. This is a summary. There's considerably more detail in our annual report, but shows year by year what the city has spent, and this is these are audited numbers and reviewed by our committee every year, showing what has been spent in the various categories of traffic, public safety, storm sewer, municipal improvements, parks and community. And through the end of last June, we had spent $455 million, 80% of which is represented by traffic and public safety. The remainder of my comments are really going to focus on those two areas. Next slide, please. You know, I've been a taxpaying citizen here in San Jose for a long, long time. And I'm very proud to say that this slide brings a lot of joy to my heart because I don't think any of us, including you who are elected to do this, can say this very often. We have paved considerably more miles with less money than was originally planned. The original plan called for 420 miles and with roughly half the money. And we have exceeded that already and with the next couple of years before these funds are exhausted, we will probably see outperformance on the neighborhood of 30 or 40%. And as the last bullet point points out, states this outperformance has been achieved through operational efficiencies and leveraging other funding sources. I want to acknowledge DPW's role and DOT's role in getting us across the goal line ahead of plan and with less money being spent to get there. I mean, this is just a wonderful thing to be able to Normally, you probably hear, "Well, we got close, but we're a little behind the eight ball." We're ahead of the game and that's That's quite That's quite good. Next slide, please. The other 1/3 of the Measure T funds are dedicated or have been dedicated to public safety projects. 10 of which were originally scoped. Three have been completed as indicated there in the first bullet point. Four are currently under construction and are expected to be completed utilizing currently allocated Measure T funds. In other words, they've been budgeted for and reserves have been allocated, the contracts have been issued, there's enough money to get these things done and across the goal line within the allocated dollars. The third bullet point, there are three items, the 911 call center upgrades, which was recently awarded, Fire Station 36 and the police admin building upgrades that are still in the design phase and there is as that third bullet point points out 14.5 million in unallocated reserves still available. That's that is unencumbered or unallocated funds for measure T that will probably in all likelihood be allocated in some percentage to these three items to get them done. And fire station 23 was put in there because that is a land only component right now. The acquisition of that land is currently pending. In our discussions at our meeting in in early January one of the things that we were concerned about was we've got three projects which are in design phase. We had original allocations which what we've seen in the public safety area is we end up short. We typically end up short in the allocated amount versus original budget or projection. When this whole program was put together the city council and all the people involved in this had enough foresight to reserve a fair amount of money. I think it was something on the order of 75 million dollars for reserve against exactly this sort of thing. Inflation, error, misjudgment, miscalculation, whatever. And a lot of moving parts have gone along to to make all this work. Our concern is with three projects still pending the 14 and a half million may or may not be enough. We don't know. We don't know neither does DPW because the contracts haven't been put out, the final design specs haven't been made available. DPW has indicated that these projects will not proceed if insufficient funds are available. However, if you'll turn to the very last slide, it's our feeling that city council would be prudent to establish a rank-ordered priority of those three remaining projects in case this whole thing kind of runs off the rails and we're woefully short of available money. I don't know, you know, whether that that's a realistic assumption or not or concern, but it is something that we want to let you know that that's uppermost on our mind. And the other recommendation is again we've got a number of unfilled seats and we would encourage city council. I think most of these are citywide seats other than D10 that need to be filled. So, whoever's responsible up there or in your staff or whatever it would be helpful to get them because sometimes with a smaller number we have problems making quorums for meetings. So, that's all I have to say and um the three of us are here to answer any questions you might have. Thank you for your time and attention. Great. Thank you, Nick, and all of our oversight committee members, Matt, really impressed with how much impact we've had on Measure T road pavement in particular has been just incredible, but yeah, I'm excited by the progress and appreciate I think the citizen oversight role has been critical in building trust and helping us make sure we're using the dollars as effectively as we can. So, you know, I think it's been an incredible learning experience for those of us that are just common citizens to figure out how all this works and putting this all together in the last I think all of us I know Gary and I have been on since the inception and I think Shruti came on shortly thereafter. So, there's a lot of benefit to having some people that have been here for a while. We're not stumbling around in the dark. And I also want to just add my personal thanks to both Sal Kumar and Christie No. Both Sal is the deputy director of the DPW and Christie as a senior analyst. Their their liaison, their effectiveness, their liaison effectiveness with the COC is is is terrific, absolutely terrific. Great. That's all That's excellent. Thanks for adding that note. Um Shruti, Gary, Nick, thank you for your leadership on the oversight committee. We really appreciate it. Uh we're going to turn to public comment before we continue. Tony, do we have public comment? >> Yes, Brian. Darrel Beak, [snorts] come on down. I read through the report and I would did want to say thank you. Very well done. And I would just like on the emergency response or emergency planning, I would I haven't seen any kind of incorporation of amateur radio. When everything else breaks, amateur radio still works. So, I would really suggest you look into that. Um 2-meter, 10-meter, something, even I hate to say it, but even CBs. If if the networks go down, if the power goes out, a lot of these things may be the only type of communication you can have. Thank you. Back to council. Okay. Thank you. We'll uh turn to Councilmember Kamei first. Yes, thank you so much uh for the report and presentation. I really want to thank the committee for um you know working working all of these years to um really uh make these things possible and uh and watching um the dollars. I'm so excited to hear about the paving because you know, being ahead of the game is something uh we don't hear too much about. So, I'm going to have a little story in my newsletter about that because this year we're fortunate in District 1 to be the next sort of like big chunk to be able to have a lot of the paving done. So, I'm very very excited about that. We're going to see a lot of activity this year in District 1. Thank you, Gary. And um and and it's good for the the community to know uh where we are on this. So, I really really appreciate it. I I want to thank you so much for your time and and efforts in in making all of this possible in collaboration with uh with our staff. So, and I'd like to thank staff as well, uh you know, being able to to get all this stuff done on top of everything else, right? Uh so, with that, I would like to move acceptance of the Measure T Community Oversight uh Committee Annual Report. Excellent. Thank you, uh Vice Mayor. Thank you for the presentation, and thank you for the work you do serving on the Measure T uh Citizens Oversight uh Committee. Nick, when you first started talking about the miles that we had paved in the how many years you had been a resident in in the District 6 area, I thought you were going to say, "This is the first time I've had my streets paved in 40 years that I've been in my house." I I thought I'd leave that out. Yeah, because a lot of our residents feel that and remember that and remember the last time they had their streets paved. They'll all tell you, "When am is my street going to be paved?" So, I'm really excited to Council Member Kamei's point to see that the target was 420 miles, but we've actually paved 516 miles. That's incredible. With another 163 yet to come. Which is fabulous. Our residents love this. This is something they can turn to and say, "Yes, the city is actually doing something for me." It's it's really wonderful, and and I too now have something to add in my into my newsletter about measure T, so it's really exciting. >> win for the taxpayers, it's a win for the resident, it's a it's it's a win for it's a win for everybody. Everybody. It absolutely is. And I know you have a lot of vacancies, so are there times that you are not able to establish a quorum? I We've had some tight ones. We we've had we've had we've gotten through by the you know, the hair of our chinny chin chin from from meeting to meeting. I mean, we're somebody gets stuck in traffic and we can't start till they get I mean, you know, it's one of those it's it's close. It's close. >> I see that the three three of the vacancies are city or four city or their city staff positions? The citywide public safety, citywide environmental issues, those these are members of the public who have these specialties? Mhm. Yes. Okay. Uh and then District 10, not to call you out, but District 10 you have a vacancy over there. I I know what that is like with the senior commission and all of that. So, I I uh appreciate your comment at the about the rank-ordered priorities, too, as we go into the budget process and the difficulties with the things that we need to prioritize with the budget. I think it's worth a conversation at the city to prioritize the three remaining the big three remaining items, the call center, the fire station 36, and then the uh police admin uh building upgrade. So, I thank you for bringing that to attention and maybe someone in the uh Piz Fiz committee can prioritize those and figure out how they're coming back cuz that comes through them, I believe. But Or Matt, do you have an idea? Yeah, 911 has already been awarded. And so, what they're requesting is stack ranking the three of those in what order you would recommend if you so desire. For awareness, we're through design pretty well on 36. That'll be going out to bid later this year. We're going to have a Measure T update for like the current fiscal year stuff in a couple of weeks here at council for you to read. That'll be inundating you with more information about the project statuses. And so, the way they're listed there is fine and we're certainly marching down that direction anyways. Okay, great. >> don't know you need to take further action, but if you so desire, it's your call. I I don't think I'm prepared to make that recommendation right now, but I really I thank you for bringing it to our attention and I thank you for serving on the Measure T task force and Matt for the work you're doing. Thank you. >> if I can just say that the reason for suggesting rank ordering is is our my personal big fear is the the bridge to nowhere. In other words, the three projects that are half-finished rather than two done and one Oops, excuse me. One delayed. That that's my big fear. I have a lot of faith and trust in working with DPW and seeing how they operate for the last five or six years. I don't think that's likely to happen, but you know, you hear about that all the time and it's and it just that would would really annoy me. >> [laughter] >> To put it mildly. Thanks, Vice Mayor. Let's go to Councilmember Duenas. Thank you, Mayor. Thank you for the community oversight members and our public works department. It was great news to hear that, you know, we paved more miles. I do have a couple of questions for you. So, there is approximately $206 million left. And out of those, my understanding is the three prioritization is 9911 call center, fire station 36, and police administration building. What is the cost breakout per item there? Do you know? So, we're going to have the report in 3 weeks on the 24th of this month, and we'll have finer details to share there. 911's already taken care of because that's already been awarded. Um we're at about 16 million for fire station 36 or maybe it's 20 million. I'm I'm coming the numbers off the top of my head. The police administration building is a variety of projects and efforts that we're deciding amongst, and where we're going to spend those monies there. And so, there'll be some details in the memo down the 24th. And so, we've allocated what we believe is all of the money that's allocated the 200 million that's listed. That includes paving and the remainder of the projects that have yet to be let out. That's the expended money that's remaining. Some of it's already been allocated though to be spent. Yeah, I know that the grand jury study in 2016 was to include station 36 in there. And are we at the final stage or we completely done with the design and and planning for station 36? No. It's not done with the design. We're not letting it out yet. It'll be out let out later this year. Okay, so we're anticipating it be complete by the end of this year. No, it will be let out to bid later this year. It's a 2027 completion. As well, the report that we'll have out on the 24th will have all those details. Okay, and I just want to why it take so long even though the the um predicament that station 32 37 32 and 36 was in the plan for the last how many 10 years? Why did it take so long to get it out to the RFP? Well, one we had to get access to the land and seek what needed to happen. The design needed to be completed. The design is being wrapped up. We'll put it out to contract as soon as the design's done. So, it's more just order of operations. We had the two other stations that we're building 32 and 8 currently. Those are already in construction, so 36 is the next one. >> Well, I'm afraid that if we stretch out the timeline, the cost will rise and then those you know, I don't want to see station 36 on a hold pattern. It's not on a hold pattern. Okay. I'll hold you to that. >> Good. Thank you. >> Thank you very much. >> Look forward to it. All right. Thanks, Councilmember. We'll go to Councilmember Cone. Thank you and thanks for the overview and for the great work on managing Measure T. I'll just Um you know my frustration, which is the last thing on the list. There's the three projects that are remaining, but State Fire Station 23 doesn't have a clear path forward. Um I am uh I'm pleased to see that we're we got the resources to buy the land and that we now have identified the land and are moving forward with that purchase. Um Matt, do we have any uh thoughts about what the next step will be at that point and what the timeline might look like and where funding might come from to actually do the work? So, to do the work for construction? >> Yeah, I mean to move on beyond that. >> not been identified. So, I'll just put that We don't We have not identified the construction money. We We don't even think we have a clear path to the design money, which is another $2 million. And so, um we believe there's a path to the property and there'll be a council action fairly soon um that we'll be bringing it for you in terms of how how that land acquisition will be proceeding. Okay. Yeah, I mean I figured that was the answer, but I just wanted to continue to elevate that project as being >> is very important to us and it's important to the fire fire services as well. >> Thank you. Thanks Councilmember and once again just want to thank our citizen oversight committee members for your diligence and great work. Matt, you and the team and I know coordination with other departments like DOT have just done a tremendous job of deploying these dollars and building public trust. So, thank you for the good work. >> Yeah, I'd be remiss just Department of Transportation has been crushing it on the paving. Really, they've been really innovative in terms of the procedures, the way they've done it multi-year contracts, and the way they've packaged things together. That really is I mean we've gotten to a lucky market that has nothing to do with it. That's a lot of skill on DOT's part. They've done a really great job and I'd just be remiss not to put a lot of praise at the paving on them. So, I appreciate that. Absolutely. Thanks for noting that. Appreciate it. Okay, Tony, let's vote. Motion passes unanimously. Great. Thank you all. We're on to item 6.1, climate adaptation and resilience plan. And we do have a staff presentation. Good afternoon. I'm Lorie Mitchell, the director of the energy department, and very pleased today to be joined by Julie Benabente. She's our deputy director of our climate smarts, and Michael Gonzales, who is our program manager in ESD, as well as Jeff Provenzano, the director of ESD. This item is our climate adaptation and resilience plan. It's a new plan that the staff has worked on for the last few years and we're very excited to present it to city council today. And with that, I'm going to turn it over to Julie. Good afternoon. Today we're going to cover some background on the project, a vulnerability assessment that we was completed as part of the project, the framework and measures, engagement and input as well as next steps and our recommendation. In 2018, the city adopted the Climate Smart San Jose plan which focuses on reducing our community-wide greenhouse gas emissions and the Climate Smart Plan noted that climate adaptation and resiliency planning should be completed since San Jose, even with increased greenhouse gas reduction efforts, is likely to encounter and we have seen is encountering increasing climate change impacts like droughts, wildfires, changing weather, and sea level rise. In late 2023, the city received a $650,000 state grant which has allowed us to begin this effort and complete this effort. While the city's Climate Smart Plan addresses strategies to reduce or mitigate emissions and slows climate change as I've mentioned, um and the city's emergency management plans outline actions for responding to immediate hazards including climate-related and non-climate-related disasters, the Climate Adaptation and Resilience Plan identifies measures and strategies to reduce the impact of climate change addressing the questions of how we can better prepare and adapt to climate risks. We have had several steps since receipt of the grant to develop this plan as noted on this slide and leading us to today's council meeting. >> Part of the technical analysis included the city working with its technical consultant Remy and Associates to prepare a San Jose climate vulnerability assessment. The vulnerability assessment is a high-level analysis of how projected climate hazards may affect the city's populations, buildings, critical facilities, utility infrastructure, and transportation systems for the purpose of informing the prioritization and development of adaptation strategies and measures that are included in the plan. The vulnerability assessment evaluates five major climate hazards that are already occurring or projected to intensify in San Jose, which includes flooding, and more extreme and severe drought, wildfire smoke and events, sea level rise and storm surge, and more frequent extreme heat waves. It drew from a combination of quantitative and qualitative data sources to identify vulnerability ratings for assets and populations including the existing Silicon Valley 2.0 climate change preparedness tool, uh Federal Emergency Management Agency maps, adapting to rising tides sea level rise data, and local and regional planning documents including the Santa Clara County multi-jurisdictional hazard mitigation plan, and City of San Jose Annex. Key findings for San Jose indicate that flooding is the most most impactful hazard to infrastructure and populations in the city, followed by extreme heat and sea level rise. Extreme heat's greatest impact is to health and safety of residents. Sea level rise and storm surge pose increasing long-term risks, but are geographically limited to northern portions of the city. Wildfire risk is present within city limits, but geographically limited as well, and wildfire smoke from regional fire activity is a more impactful hazard. Vulnerable vulnerable populations, which may include low-income, mobile home residents, individuals with sensitivities, are disproportionately impacted by extreme heat, air quality, and flooding. The assessment concluded that the adaptation plan strategies should focus on facility assessments, infrastructure upgrades, community engagement, and resilience measures tailored to vulnerabilities. The plan framework subsequently identified four measure categories pictured here to structure the plan: knowledge, governance and policy, structural, and communications. The plan also focused on measures that were within the city's direct control to implement, integrate with related city plans and policies, address infrastructural, community, and ecosystem impacts from climate-related hazards, and address inequalities and reduce climate-related impacts to vulnerable communities. The CARP includes 19 measures, each supported by one or more implementation strategies with for a total of 62 strategies. The knowledge category includes measures around data and studies. The governance and policy category includes measures around stakeholder engagement, design standards, and planning. The structural category includes measures around infrastructure improvement. The communications category includes measures around effective and enhanced information sharing with the community. The plan was informed, reviewed, and finalized through an extensive stakeholder engagement processes um shown here, which includes interviews, presentations, a survey, tabling events, and small group meetings. Throughout the climate adaptation and resilience plan development process, city staff conducted bi-monthly climate ready working group uh meetings, which included representatives from six city departments that are listed here. And also included the project's community-based organization lead partners spur and Valley Water. To support the carp measure implementation city staff will continue currently funded work activities including steps to make Roseville Community Center into a climate resilience resiliency hub sub-regional Shoreline adaptation planning reducing water demand and it and or non-potable water sources and a technical assistance program workshop plan for this March to advise the city on equity centered best practices pertaining to carp implementation. Additional implementation efforts will occur over time as a city acquires funding. Our recommendation is that city council adopt the climate adaptation and resilience plan and approve the incorporation of the climate adaptation and resilience plan into our annual climate smart updates. And I'll open for questions. Great. Thank you for the report. Appreciate it. Tony, do we have public comment? Lena. Come on down. All right. Good afternoon mayor and council members. My name is Lena Drape and I'm with the Santa Clara Valley Open Space Authority. I'm pleased to share the Open Space Authority's support for the city's climate adaptation and resilience plan. We specifically want to thank staff including Lori, Julie and analyst Hannah Greenberg for their effort to gather and implement feedback from partners including the Open Space Authority who already play a central role in this work. The carp provides a tremendous opportunity to leverage public investments by further integrating nature-based solutions into the city's climate adaptation and resilience planning. As identified by the council adopted natural and working land element, our city's open spaces and agricultural lands are not just nice to have. They're not just undeveloped lands waiting for development. These lands sequester carbon, grow our food, provide clean drinking water, protect us from floods and wildfire. Without them, including what when they are paved over, we cannot be resilient. So, thank you again to staff for their work to integrate what we already know through science and data into our city's actual climate adaptation and resilience plans. Thank you. Back to council. Great. Thank you. Okay, coming back to the council. Councillor Duan. Thank you, Mayor. I just want to say thank you very much for the all your hard work and accomplishment. And I just want to move to accept the climate adaptation and resilience plan. Sorry, my mic went off there. Great. Any other questions or comments? Not seeing any. Tony, let's vote. Motion passes unanimously with Foley absent. And that might be Foley. Possibly. Foley, did you want to vote? She That's a yes. Thumbs up. Motion passes unanimously. All right. Thank you to staff for the report. Thank you, all. That was our last agendaized item. We are on to open forum, which is an opportunity for members of the public to comment on any items not on today's agenda. Tony, do we have open forum? Yes, I have four cards. Jim, come on down. Brian, Obadiah, and Jose. All right. Brian, you're welcome to begin. I only see one speaker, Tony, but we'll let Brian going to Okay. Um I've said this a bunch of times and I'm going to try to say it again. I sent each of you a copy. I I think there's one thing we can do that doesn't cost very much money. Other states do it. Our state does it. A lot of cities do it. Um, the thing I sent you and this I'm going to leave with the clerk. Is a day of recognition for people who are victims of crime. And it doesn't I mean it obviously a real serious crimes like you know, violence or robbery or something. They may hit the headlines and then it fades off. The The people are still left there. And there I read on Nextdoor and a bunch of other places where people they lose their cars, they lose their um, tools. They lose uh, their house is broken into. The one thing that's consistent is a lot of them do not feel supported. They're told do not fill out reports or because nobody's going to do anything about it. There's not enough police, they're not And it's not an accusation against anybody. This day would just simply have a day where there's a lot of other people groups that are recognized. This is something that crosses every single demographic. So, I would appreciate it if somebody could please look into it. Maybe make it an agenda item at one time. Thank you. Back to council. Okay. Thank you. Well, everybody, we're adjourned. Have a wonderful afternoon.