all right that clock says 7 o'clock this one does too oh and this one does too why we are we're synced here um both clocks say 7 o'clock so um I'm going to call the meeting to order and just a friendly reminder if you have cell phones with you please turn them on silent or airplane mode so they don't disrupt the meeting I think I already did that it would be very embarrassing if I forgot any any rate um first order I'd like to ask that you join me in Pledge of Allegiance Ali to the flag of the United States of America and to the repic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liy and justice for all so welcome everybody this evening that's here and also later on watching on YouTube um welcome Mr Kirkwood and also people from minw Creek Watershed District we have a um kind of a skeleton crew here this evening but we will make do and we will have a fabulous U meeting uh first order I'd like to do introductions I'm Lisa whan I'm the mayor and to my left our council members Kathleen rekin and Claudia Lacy and then on the end we have Matt what's your last name again Chris bunders Chris we used [Laughter] [Music] to why did you Chris why did you change your name I was more Chris yeah okay I'm so I'm used to saying I'm used to saying Alison fski and she's not here and all of a sudden we're going oh geez okay don't change your name again okay thank you and then we have Gary Peters who is our Public Works director and then to my right we have Jasper kral who is our city administrator Brian Grim who is our uh Finance director and then sitting in for our regular attorney is um Peter Michaels with Kennedy and Graven and then Paul um who is our chief of police Paul FS thank you so with that are there any changes to the agenda I don't believe so if not is there a motion to approve the agenda as presented so move thank you Miss rekin is there a second second thank you Miss Claudia Miss Lacy I always call you miss Claudia it sounds so much nicer yeah it sounds nice anyhow um all those in favor signify with i i all those opposed motion passes 3 so next we have our special presentations and with us this evening we have some individuals from inha Creek Watershed District uh James whiskers and why don't you come to the podium and introduce yourselves ince mayor wh council members um my name is Sher white I live in Oro and president of the board of managers of any HW Creek Watership district and we are just delighted to giving us the opportunity to come here and talk about things that we're doing in at Trista and elsewhere the district throughout the Watership um we really appreciate all of the um cooperation partnership we have in your city over the years and look forward to continuing Partnerships and I should have said thank you for coming because we really appreciate the partnership and we appreciate all that you do too for water quality thank you thank you James whisker and Mike Cayman are here James's District administrator M came is our head of our project planning department thank you thank you thank you Sher thank you mayor whan councel Jasper staff for having us here this evening um I think we're fully introduced we have Jim White here too former but um I'm James whisker I'm the administrator for the minw Creek Watershed district and like Sher said it's my pleasure to be here with you all this evening to provide an update on some of our work as it relates to our long history of partnership with the city ofria Jasper has the C so first it test is can turn and do I the point try one more time he did warn me to get here early for you want so I'm not the only one that's technically [Laughter] challenged go yeah I think I think that's gonna have to be it yeah this is G be a test to see how we are Partners here so um my first head now okay so to uh get us started in this this picture heavy so I'll be ready to kind of Click through these jper but to get us started I thought i' cover some basic backgrounds it's been while since we've been here and get us started just in terms of geography and approach of the M Creek Watershed District so this is our Watershed we cover 178 square mile area in the West Metro we have a really rich tapestry of land use and natural resources and communities and our wed is located in portions of hanen and Carver County we over 29 different cities ranging from Fairly Rural and exurban in the west all the way to Urban in the East and City of Minneapolis we have over 120 different lakes if you can believe that a number of major stream systems and we have really um iconic resources that you're all familiar with like lake minak or our namesake mini haa Creek the Minneapolis Chain of Lakes and of course Min haa Falls so we'll keep moving to the next slide my second head so in terms of how we approach the work the Watershed District really believes that natural systems underpin local community identity and create a sense of place and that when we um when those things are integrated that the watersheds work is really integral to building thriving communities Jasper keeping moving here um so because how we use our land dri the amount of water and the quality of water running off the landscape and the Watershed District doesn't own all the land and we don't control the decisions that are made about it whether we're working on capital projects or we're shaping policy we're always thinking about how our time how Investments can be Catalyst for the those of our partners like you and the built environment and we do that by taking a data driven understanding and then if you go to the next one and just keep me moving we're going to layer in our partners objectives which might relate to transportation and infrastructure or Community Development which is the next slide or parks and open space and finally uh the community um really with a goal of creating amazing places in the Watershed that we think are good for the environment they're good for communities and they're good for people so if you go to the next slide in recent years as part of what we call Our Lake minona strategy The Watershed District's been focused on the largest polluting tributaries into the lake so rather than being inside the lake we're focusing on these large land areas that drain into the lake and that vision and strategy has been hard at work in this part of upper Watershed in the Six Mile Creek holstead Bay Area all 27 square miles of which are tributary to holstead Bay on Lake minaka which is impaired for um water quality and ministic here has been an early partner as we've collaborated on Acquisitions for conservation around holstead Bay and we've worked with local land owners to guide subdivision planning and private Wetland Banking and I'm going to talk about a couple of those examples later so perfect timing we're so in St Jasper so to help ground all of our partners leading up to the 2017 plan um which is our 10-year planning cycle we spent time really understanding um the natural system within the Watershed and the thank you very much the runoff and pollutant loading from the landscape the Legacy phospherous trap that inside these lakes and then finally there we go how common carp in these Lakes were contributing to poor water and we then moved Beyond The Watershed science into understanding the goals and needs of our various partners and this is just a key part of our process so we spent a lot of time sitting down with planners with Engineers with elected officials like yourselves Lake Association members All In Search of local context and some years later now many years later in browsing um your 2040 plan it was really great to see I think we still have strong Vision alignment between the two organizations the city's preparing for significant growth in the next 20 years you're continuing to lift up preservation of your rural character and the natural environment the parks trails and Lake minaka as defining natural assets for the city is the city thoughtfully plans for infrastructure and housing and services to support that growth through align Partnerships hopefully with key Partners like us there we go so we use what we learned about that landscape and all of our partners to develop a clear strategy for this area leading up to our 2017 plan for improving water quality by breaking down this 27 square mile geography into manageable pieces that we call management units and that's guided us systematically through improvements on landscape managing common C and dealing with water quality inside the lake generally moving from Upstream um to Downstream to improve water quality as we track down towards from the headquarters all the way down to holstead Bay and among many landscape restoration projects we've worked closely with the national home builder this is just one example lard to take what they viewed as a regulatory liability and a pinch point in their Land Development process and we turned it into a 12 acre Wetland mitigation and restoration opportunity Upstream on the south side of waserman Lake looking systemwide with Express support from Partners like at Trista we were able to work with the university to understand the common cart populations through this 14 link chain how they move where they reproduce and use that information to develop a management plan that was supported with legislative funding about $600,000 to implement one of the state's largest rough fish management efforts ultimately removing over a quarter million pounds of carp and helping restore 2500 Acres of in Lake shallow habitat and along with it water quality at wasman Lake in nearby wasman lake ponds again this is Upstream in the city of Victoria to address internal loading um from the lake we secured State Grant funds and have directly dosed to wasman Lake and those nearby areas with Allen to address internal sources of phosphorus and that work um led to a fiveyear collaboration with community members the city council and our design team to acquire and provide programmed access to this last remaining piece of land available around wasman Lake at a high point overlooking the entire Lake to develop a nature-based space that supports the community's longterm Vision as the city of lakes and parks and that ecologically based Park provides public access to a restored was Lake on flicker can um with a shelter and picnic areas and nature play is my kids trying to not hurt themselves um it's really helped people and and kids immerse creatively and connect with nature there's Community Gathering space for people to get together and celebrate and be in nature and of course access to the water and so there's some examples of work that we're doing actually outside of the community or across the whole system that benefit water here in minat Trista but Downstream we were equally excited this year to complete a similar nature-based place with uh that's been long coordinated with our partners here at the city of Min Tristan the form of the sixmile marsh Prairie restoration and these are pictures from that title slide that you were asking me about this project first began in 2012 when we decided to work together on honoring the landscape Legacy of two agricultural land owners here in the city Theon the dler families who together owned over 230 30 Acres of Farmland that was adjacent to the regionally significant Six Mile Marsh and holstead Bay on Lake minona there we go through dialogue with both of those land owners those farmers and the support from the city and coordination with the surrounding neighborhoods the waters District acquired those properties with this vision of restoring the natural features of the site and then also providing access to the restored property from the Dakota Regional Trail and so through the removal of buildings and breaking of drain tile and revegetation of the site the property now includes over 124 Acres of restored Prairie um 80 acres of marsh and Open Water Wetland shown here in this picture 22 Acres of Oak Savannah and four acres of Oak Woodland and with over a mile of trail Loop now providing a new space for the community to connect with the city's natural assets and uh the trail and interpretation work was completed this year and with the project also including this preservation of the red last year last year 24 that's a good point yeah I'm living in the past and uh it included the preservation of the Red Barn which is really a key feature of the site ties back to the legacy of the land and was a high priority for the community who engaged in the restoration fund and we've tried to uh integrate the barn into site interpretation with picnic benches signage and these viewing portals that are actually cut into the side of the barn which tell the story of how the Landscapes evolved over time and honor the original owners the Trail Loop also provides access to these just amazing views um that this property has to offers it looks down over the sixmile marsh like this one here which really helps visitors understand the transition between these different ecosystems that are on site so whether that's the Savannah the Wetland Edge or down into the marsh and it brings also a sense of scale within the regional geography um as you can see from this Vantage um you know we have many of the different biomes the Prairie the wetlands the oak Savannah and the backdrop all framed against the I think that's the Chanhassen water tower about 8 miles away and so through the 160 Acres of restored vegetation and the nine Wetlands that we've integrated back into the site this project is estimated to have prevented over 180 pounds of phosphorus or 12 tons of sediment annually from entering the marsh and then entering the lake and if you zoom out to the Watershed scale because we're working in multiple different communities here the big message is overall the work is working the systematic data driven approach that integrates into Community planning is having great effect um most telling is that since beginning our work eight years ago if we look back Upstream now at wasman Lake um this wouldn't be a Waters shift presentation without a graph um wasman lake has met its water quality standards for the first time in its monitor history so we're tracking towards removing that Lake from the impaired Waters list and importantly for us all here it's now consistently sending cleaner water Downstream which is really important as we move our way down and so that's really where that work takes us next in terms of our upcoming priorities with work concluding at waserman um we are turning our attention Downstream opportunities there's a wetland complex just south of wasman Lake but in the city of Minnetrista we're very interested in areas that are tributary to Mud Lake and longer term um potential Allen dosing or dosing facility to help address internal loading at pulad Bay so to wrap things up for tonight I wanted to let the council know also that following a year of community engagement and really good positive uh feedback from our technical advisory committee which is comprised of your engineers and staff at the end of 2023 we adopted this land and water partnership program which is really a complement to what we call our focal geography approach the approach I just described where we're really intensively focused in one particular area um you should all have handouts that you've received through the mail that if you haven't let me know um I brought a few copies with me this program um is really intended to ensure that we remain responsive to community needs in the event we're not actively engaged in leading a project at that moment in time this program is intended to be an onr into our Capital Improvement plan so we're offering planning technical assistance as well as capital funing for eligible projects and um part of this effort is also focused on um the streamlining of our permanent process to make sure that we're putting a partnership lens in terms of how we're interacting with the public and private land use Partners as they come in for permits and perhaps one last plug I would just say we we have a a history of that type of work here in several years ago now we partnered with the Mater Family Trust with City support to co- plan A 77 acre development with our technical assistance the family ultimately pursued a conservation subdivision and they were able to restore over 30 Acres of wetland into a private bank so they got the the subdivision the private bank and that helped them conserve their family Legacy this was land that had been handed down through multiple Generations it I think injected a million dollars into their proor and it created a source of wetland credits in the Watershed as other projects drive impact really was that triple bottom line and it was an example of Development coming through the land use process and the city reaching out to the district and encouraging partnership which is what that program is all about so next steps in terms of that program um really just involve the communications and marketing of the launch this year and then getting projects in Pipeline and and monitoring how it's going and making um adjustments as needed there so as developments come through as your own infrastructure projects come through please think of us reach out make a connection and with that I think we've looked back at where we started we've profiled some of the things that we've accomplished outside of the city and together and given a quick Glimpse ahead and hopefully done it in some sort of reasonable time frame so I'll just finish by saying thank you and seeing if there's any questions from anybody I have a few so um especially with the Prairie restoration um project the um dimler and H um and um hon prop properties if they had continued to um actively Farm it do you know what the um phosphorus loading would have been do you do you know that was you know the estimates it's a sensitive area sort of modeling Agricultural and production land but the those lands were drain to and were transmitting straight to the marsh bis somewhere between 150 and 180 pounds of phosphorus year about 12 tons of siment off through wind and water going and so because it's no number one it's no longer um farmed or agricultural um and you said you you removing about 80 per 80 pounds what what did you say how many pounds are you removing we're removing that same amount about 12 okay yeah that's a lot okay um and then carp tell me a little more about carp so you you harvested all this carp that's great but how do you keep them out you know that's that's I think the big question question um so it's really a a three-prong strategy and I don't think that we're pretending that we're done and so you know one of the things that we did mayor and and counsel is we did three years of diagnostic monitoring with um State leading researchers from the University of Minnesota so they really kind of on the front edge of the science so they were tracking migration patterns where they're aggregating in the winter and the areas that they were spawning in and then that informed a management strategy of um implementing barriers at select locations to isolate the population irration in What's called the carp nurseries where they lay their eggs and go to spawn to promote bluegill abundance which predate car eggs and eat them and then actual physical removals to get the numbers to a manual level and across the system we did get car populations below the 100 kilogram per hectare sort of magic number identified by um the researchers and now we're in sort of a sustainment and and an ongoing uh management phase for the project um the other thing that we're doing is taking everything that we've learned and lifting that up with the DNR um the Minnesota as Research Center and the pollution control agency to draw out Lessons Learned you know I don't think we did things perfectly we're all about the science and learning and um that's going to be published in terms of uh in the next year or so to guide how other people might undertake the work okay so we're we're continuing to implement the the barriers we're maintaining the ation systems and then periodically we're going in doing removals based on monitoring data because I know one of the barriers is on six M Marsh um as you Highland Road right right and that one's interesting that one's an operated barrier too where it's is essentially coming up and down to allow fish migration at select times during the season so that we're not having a negative impact on species okay cuz one time I know I went by there and there were just like thousands I mean literally hundreds probably of carp but um it was interesting and then um just another couple questions um so um you have some property along sixmile Marsh on just off of farmhill and it's kind of designated as a future Alum treatment plant any idea so now you're you're working Upstream I get that I I understand that um but now as you're working Downstream at what point do you think you're going to be addressing the internal loading on on Hallstead I mean I know you already are somewhat with the car but in addition to that the the long-term strategy for holstead Bay is really to F Upstream there's two shallow Lakes Upstream of the marsh part and the part of the cart management is going to turn the water quality in the shallow lakes and as well dealing with the land that GRS to those we know that the the benefit of that work on holstead Bay will take a very long time and so the secondary approach is to address the loading inside the bay to allow the landscape improvements to take effect over time and so as as you pointed out mayor I think back when 3 years Park District was doing Acquisitions around six mile marshes the creek enters holstad Bay for their Regional Trail Crossing and their Trail P Flying long term they approached us with an opportunity to co- acquired land and so we do have a piece of property there at Farm Hill um that's in our Capal Capital Improvement plan to be advanced in the technical feasibility as well as um a funding study over the next year and a half so we have one similar facility that we've implemented with the city of Bridgefield over on Taff Lake we're trying to take lessons learned from there our board really wants to dive deep into the the technical basis of feasibility because it's complicated and then we'll need to start putting together a a funding strategy so I would say in the next 24 months we're going to be entering the feasibil phase and then from there it could be three to six years honestly before we would be close to implementation because it's a sizable project it's going to require operating Partners conversations with the city neighbors Metropolitan Council and a significant amount of outside funding so it would basically filter the water out of sixmile marsh and then put it back in filtered yeah essentially sixmile Marsh um our science is showing that there's a decent amount of siment that go into that Wetland right and then what comes out is highly dissolved so you can think about the marsh essentially as a converter right it's taking sediment and then it's turning out dissolve phosphorus which doesn't settle and so that's the entire purpose of that facility would be extracted nutrient Rich dissolve water dissolve phosphorus in the water um flock that and put clean water back and I'm assuming you would do an Elum treatment and Holsted Bay before that would happen as well that's part of the technical feasibility I mean the sustain ility of of the impact of that against the cost how that's going to be sustained KN that there's T populations in the lake it's a Shallow Lake and there's internal loing the B that's really the basis feasibility all right well we're anxious to get that done so and I know these things take a while so I I understand any other questions I get a question for you yes sir it's winter and it's salt um you know we calibrate our trucks you know to do our part but yeah do you guys reach out to local businesses and local contractors when you go on into a parking lot and it's completely white I mean it is just blanketed with salt all it ends up in you know in streams Greeks you know vent to the lake I mean that's just as detrial as anything else do you guys reach out and do anything with that because we can do anything we want you know we get to watch our stuff the county the state you know watch all that when you get these contractors just come in there and just just literally turn parking lots white snows they do it again you know you're you know I mean what good is it for us to monitor it and keep track you know and trying to control it when they don't do you guys have a program or you guys thinking or working on something to reach out to these businesses I know it all and no offense to our lawyer present here I know it's all because the lawyers in slip and Falls they don't want that stuff but you know it's it's just disheartening for us I mean even watching henan County come through they are ridiculous with their salt use I mean it's just it it's it's to the point where I mean you know let's go back to salt sand you know I mean Sand's not very good either but at least you know kind of curtail the salt use so I'm just wondering if you guys have been trying to work with or have any ideas what you can do for that I mean that's the biggest thing for us right that's a that's a great question and that's kind of a preeminent issue in the Water Resource community and as a as a northern climate um until we can find as a community of people a different Sol to Mak the road safer whether that's not Trav slow down Chic or slow down or you know any other ACC combination choride is going to just be an issue it doesn't accumulate and it it's not going to go away and so we're on a slow track um towards having all of our freshwater systems impaired by by floride I think the general approach of the public sector has been let's do what we can do to set leading so the the highway department and transportation agencies Public Works have really done a great job investing in technology um whether in BR and GPS technology to make sure that there's really judicious application I think those are the leading examples for what the private sector could be doing um at a legislative level there are there have been two or three rounds of legislation introduced the last three sessions to limit liability for um the application of commercial properties to get less salt down on the ground because of slipping Falls and that has not um seen much see much joy there um there is a hanpen county chloride Coalition so hanen county is part of the Twin Cities chloride tmdl and there's a grouping of many watersheds and cities and the county that have partnered there to push communication and marketing and and education and aw to commercial operators but I mean I think you just you understand the issue obviously quite well being in public works and what the challenges are at a commercial level and absent regulation or legislation or a different technological solution there's really not a tremendous amount of the Watership districts in the position to do so we are part of that Coalition for outreach and we've seen agencies like yourself do a great job um but that's my knowled I know that there's some uh there's ass salt Symposium um I don't know how much they reach out to private um entities but um I know a lot of Public Works and and public entities go to that which is helpful certific applicators and all things but anybody tar the issue right right all right good questions thank thank you very much we really appreciate your time and coming out and it's good thing it it's uh not so cold tonight so thank you all appreciate it thank you okay so our next uh special presentation is regarding our gfoa award and is that GNA be Jasper Brian I know you you received the award I received the award no one's giving it to me I guess well well I I'm guess know I'm presenting it to council I guess so no and actually this is more than just a one this is definitely a team effort for this award every year as I think I mentioned in the the memo there is um obviously Angie and Renee and the finance department play a big role as well as even just the other you know Department directors you know Gary and obiously Jasper being supportive and Council being supportive of going for this award which the city has received since 2004 so that's a pretty good streak of uh of getting it going back 18 years or so so this is our 2022 award because basically we submitted that last spring summer and then that it goes through a review process and then we will again be submitting our 2023 financial report once we have that ready this spring so we plan on um doing that again and I think I note in there the uh the government Finance Officers Association reviewer found only four comments to suggest for next year for incorporations so that's pretty good that you know basically we were proficient in all areas and uh basically uh scored scored very well so that's always exciting and uh I don't have any really pictures like the previous no or anything I can show but no it's it's it is serious pretty prestigious a prestigious award and um yeah I'm definitely um in finance reporting y yep yep so it's um definitely something we uh are are proud of at in the finance department as well as hopefully the city overall I'm sure yeah no we're proud that you do this and and congratulations to you and your team um the government Finance Officers Association um gfo way um they have presented this to us to the city but obviously it goes to you and and your team doing this and it's um it's good that you do this we appreciate the extra effort that it takes and congratulations yet again so yeah thank you yeah and it is additional information that you know anyone that wants to read the audit report it it it turns our report yeah we'd like doing that you know yeah 100 pages to like 120 or so but yeah it's definitely yeah it's it's worth it I think for multiple reasons so right thank you Brian and again congratulations so you folks don't have to stay but you're welcome to so um we don't have anybody um signed up under persons to be heard so we'll move on to our consent agenda items and they consist of approve our work session meeting minutes from January 8th 2024 approve our city council regular meeting minutes from January 8th 2024 approve um C is approve our claims D is approve our plans and specs and authorize advertisement for bids for our 2024 Street Improvement projects and then e is a resolution appointing election judges for the March 5th presidential primary and then f is a resolution to approve our task order number eight which is General Services agreement with Advanced engineering and environmental services otherwise known as a2s any questions or any you need to remove okay with that um is there consent to approve consent agenda a b CDE E and F so much thank you Miss refkin is there second second thank you Miss Lacy all those in favor signify with i i i all those opposed motion passes so we'll move on to our public hearings we have one public hearing it's um approving an easement vacation for 31 between I should say 3116 and 3320 Williams Lane um this has been a request by Sharon theor the prop property owner actually she owns both properties um I'll just quickly open the public hearing since I have to open it even though there's nobody here public hearing is open okay public hearing is closed there's nobody here so we can close it right away and I'll move it on to Jasper or anybody um I can just give a brief update on this sure uh this is a simple subdivision that was approved I believe the last meeting or the meeting in December in December we were waiting for um some feedback from mini HW Creek Watershed District on this they needed to weigh in on this vacation so you can see up on the screen that's the area that will be vacated uh and I will entertain any questions I think a new new one is is or was created on the property on the on the new property line this is just the old property line um vacated part no questions pretty simple question okay all right is there then a motion to approve the easement vacation at 3316 and 320 Williams Lane so thank you Miss Lacy is there a second second any further questions or disc thank you Miss rekin for a second um further discussion hearing none all those in favor signify with i i i all those opposed motion passes three I was gonna say 5 I'm so used to saying 5 um yeah there you go um so next we have our staff reports um I can either provide the update or um mayor whing can but we were both at the um we were invited to a senate senate bonding tour presentation um what was it last Wednesday um we were part of I think there were technically four presenters um two counties or County entities and then um St Paul College and then ourselves so I thought we did the best but we'll see uh what what happened or what happens uh the legislative session I believe kicks off February 12th uh we have City day at the hill uh we're going to work on scheduling um meetings with some of the the Senate uh capital investment committee the house capital investment committee chair and vice chairs um and and try to try to Leever leverage as much as we can um to try to get some funds this year so um really um we're working on the wells uh this year and then next year is the the treatment plant but we've requested funds for the the whole project so we're hopeful uh but we will see so just kind of piggybacking on that um I think Jasper's correct we had the best presentation um well okay St Paul college did a very nice presentation they they they were very polished and and very professional the other ones we did better anyhow um having said that I also think that we had a better um so the St Paul College was in a different category for bonding funds we're in a in the city bonding fund and the other ones that were there for that fund for that category I think we um would score much higher than they did but again this we were just one of four and this was and they go all around the entire city so um one of the things that we're up against is this year in this category there's only $40 million so far that uh the governor hase um proposed so that that there may have to be some little wiggle room there we don't know what will happen in this house and uh Senate what they'll do or what they'll propose but um it's yeah it's going to be a bit of an uphill battle but I think our request for uh good quality safe um uh healthy drinking water uh bodess better than like needing money for a street Improvement project so um having said that um also just wanted to mention um our Senator Kelly Morrison was there she's not on the committee but she did want to come and support us and show her support for that which was very nice of her to do as well and so um and then afterwards I had an opportunity and I spoke briefly with uh the chair and the vice chair of the bonding committee as well um to just try and talk to them and hello and thank you for having us on the tour so again as Jasper said uh we will continue our Quest and continue our um yeah whatever to try and get more money for that so yep and thank you for being there that was great help and thank you for putting those little bags together too that was nice any other um reports um I attended the last gy Center board meeting and um they just kind of explain their new management and what they're trying to do they are really desperately in need of um having an active fundraising uh new strategy so we're working on that um also met with the West Hunter community and commerce organization they're um really a need of volunteers a little tired and but they do lots of wonderful things as you know they the PO plunge is coming up and um they they are a very active group but very much looking for volunteers so um that's really all we we did discussed okay I know it's volunteering and Y everyone needs volunteers it does it doesn't matter what organization you're with they all need volunteers everybody's so busy so um totally understand that okay I'm I don't have anything else to report so with that we can be adjourned if there's a motion to adjourn so move thank you Miss rkin is there a second second thank you Miss uh Lacy all those in favor signify with i i i all those opposed motion passes 3 and we are adjourned until the fifth