then we'll continue on next with the uh we will open up the regular meeting then um we uh welcome to the regular meeting of the uh Mesa planning and zoning board for Wednesday May 22 2024 uh do I need to take roll call again or can we uh okay we'll take roll call again uh I'm uh Vice chair uh pitcher uh Vice chair or chair SS is absent today uh board member Crockett here uh board member Peterson here board member montz here board member blakeman here and board member Carpenter here we uh will will start with a reading of unless any of the items um Alex do do we have any items that are are coming off of the consent agenda um at this time I don't believe we do we've not received any comment cards then we'll uh move forward with the reading of the consent agenda um by uh board member Peterson items on the consent agenda are pz 24076 minutes from the April 10 2024 Planning and Zoning meeting pz 24077 minutes from the April 22nd 2024 Planning and Zoning public hearing pz 24066 minutes from the April 24th 2024 Planning and Zoning meeting item 3A Z 24- 000019 PHX 062 district 6 within the 10,400 to 10,600 blocks of East Elliot Road and within the 10,400 block of East mosqu Street located south of Elliot Road and West of signal be Road site plan review and special use permit this request will allow for an indoor warehousing use recommendation is approval with condition item 3B Z1 24- 000020 PHX 065 district 6 within the 10,300 to 10,700 blocks of East PST Road and within the 6300 to 6800 blocks of South 222nd Street located north of Picos Road and West of signal beat Road site plan review and two special use permits this request will allow for an indoor warehousing use staff recommendation approval with conditions item 3 C Z1 24- 00127 Mesa AZ eastart Granger 250- 4sc with district 6 within the 10,600 block of East williamsfield Road and the 6,000 block of South 222nd Street located south of williamsfield Road and West of signal beat Road site plan review and special use permit this request will allow for a place of worship staff recommendation approval with conditions item 4 a proposed amendments oh this one is off correct okay so I I so I just change the recommendation to okay and what was the date on that againe okay proposed amendments to Chapters two 5 6 7 8 10 30 31 34 32 34 86 and 88 7 of Title 11 of the mesa city code also known as the Mesa zoning ordinance pertaining but not limited to accessory dwelling units detached accessory buildings and manufactured home park accessory structures the recommendation is continuation to the June 26 Planning and Zoning Board item Four B proposed amendments to chapter 56 and 31 of Title 11 of the mesa city code also known as the zoning ordinance pertaining to minor revisions and Technical updates including but not limited to modifying figures modifying land use tables to correct footnote references and correcting section references staff recommendation is adoption item 4 C Z1 23-00 645 1756 East University District 1 within the 1700 block of East University Drive and within the 400 block of North Hall located west of Gilbert Road and North of University Drive reson from neighborhood commercial to multiple residential four with a planned area development overlay and a site plan review this request will allow for a multiple residence development staff recommendation approval with conditions item 4D Z1 23- 00982 Dave Downing Associates Warehouse District 4 within the 200 Block of South Hibert located north of Broadway Road and West of Mesa Drive reson from downtown business 2 and downtown residence 2 to downtown business 2 with a bonus intensity Zone overlay Council use permit and major site plan modification this request will allow for a warehouse development staff recommendation approval with condition conditions item five a The Landing at Falcon Field pre-at within the 4600 to 4,800 block of East mccps Road the 1700 to 2,000 block of North 48th Street and the 1700 to 2,000 block of North 46th Street located east of Greenfield Road and south of melops road rezone from light industrial to light industrial with the planned area development overlay site plan review and revocation of a council use permit this request will allow for an industrial development staff recommendation approval with conditions thank you um is is is there any further action we need to take on those I I noticed that a blue card came up is that it was just the applicant they're they're available to speak if there's any questions on the general plan Amendment he's hoping not to speak that's it first thank you then uh then we'll proceed then with the the public hearing entertain a motion oh entertain a motion to approve it okay all then then I'll entertain a motion to approve the consent agenda I will move that we approve the consent agenda that was so eloquently read by board member Peterson I'm sorry did you want to speak on no back back here Vice chair oh I'm sorry can I ask can I speak about the warehouse that is on the consent agenda so you'd have to pull it off yeah we'd have to pull it off we're happy to talk to you after though was you want me to pull it off it sear okay well we can pull that off so what we'll do is we'll pull off uh item um z123 00982 from the consent agenda and then the the vote then we will'll modify your vote to uh the consent agenda minus that one okay and that what agenda item was that that was uh 4 d 4D okay then I move that we approve the consent agenda as read by board member Peterson minus agenda item 4B is there a second d d is in dog is there a is there a second I second and let's vote please the the vote is unanimous so we will proceed then with the uh with for D is in dog um that presentation and uh then we we've got one other presentation after that as well thank you Vice chair and board members this is case z 23- 00982 for the Dave Downing and Associates Warehouse the request is a rezone from the downtown business 2 and downtown residents 2 District um with and downtown residence 2 to a downtown business 2 with a bonus intensity Zone overlay the request also includes a council use permit and a major site plan modification the request will allow for the development of a warehouse the site is located north of Broadway Road and West of Mesa Drive along Hibert as seen in the hatched area on the screen the general plan character area is downtown and Transit Corridor the downtown is for recognized as the governmental cultural financial and entertainment center of the community and the transit Corridor encourages buildings to be brought close to the front property lines it is also part of the Central Main Street area plan um specifically that transformation neighborhood the intent there is to create a more unified mix of employment commercial and residential uses the current zoning is um split zoned with that downtown business 2 and downtown res presential to um with the request to rezone to the db2 with the B overlay um indoor warehousing and storage is a permitted use in the db2 zoning district with the approval of a council use permit here is um a current site photo looking Southwest on hippert the applicants plan on demolishing an existing warehouse and a portion of another Warehouse on the site um they will then um plan on adding an overall 11,000 ft addition to that remaining warehouse for a total of over 22,500 ft um this site also includes a 2400t office use which is located along Hibbert um part of the B request is to deviate from the required 15t setback along Hibbert to allow for that zero foot setback which is the current existing condition uh the uh 33 parking spaces are required on the site and 60 are proposed and there are two accesses off of hippert um additional requests within the B include a reduction in the size of the landscape yards required landscape material and a reduction in certain um Foundation base uh the North and North West landscape yards are being reduced from the required 20 ft to a minimum of 4' 9 in but all of the planting requirements are being met along those um along those property lines the southwest and South property lines are proposed to have a zero foot landscape uh instead of the required 15 ft um and those setbacks are will have no plant material um the foundation base is also reduced to 5 1/2 ft instead of the 10 ft between the parking spaces on the building um along that North elevation um everywhere else the foundation base is being met as well as all the planting um materials required and here of course you can see the landscape that is being proposed um the B is to allow for modifications to certain development standards um in the zoning ordinance here is the table summarizing what is being proposed um which I have done in those previous slides uh the B includes the minimum front setback to match the existing a reduction in required landscape yards required landscape material and certain um areas of the foundation base the for the applicants the justification for the bis request includes Redevelopment of a previously distressed site um within a half mile of the light rail stop um in addition many parking Landscapes um areas are oversized an additional Foundation basees being provided um where possible uh per the submitted site plan they've also identified prior priority parking that's designated for low emission vehicles um and carpool spaces as well the proposed project is required to meet the um cup requirement findings in section 1176 um as the proposed project is consistent with the goals and objectives of the downtown character Area Transit Corridor and the Central Main Street plan um by providing appropriate infill development and Redevelopment of a site helping to contribute to the quality of the surrounding area uh the proposed project fits the location size design and characteristics because the design allows for that full vehicular egress around the building um and the warehousing and vehicular portions of the site are set back from the street um where that office is actually located instead creating that more pedestrian environment um the proposed project will not be injurious or detrimental to adjacent properties as per the narrative the site was previously acting as a junkyard which has s since been cleaned up by the new Property Owners um who want to make it a safer and more pleasant um for the surrounding Community um adequate public facilities and infrastructure are available to the proposed project with proper trash enclosures and parking being added as well here are the elevations that were presented to the design review board on May 14th the board had minor comments that the applicant is working um on with the city um the East Elevation that you're seeing here is what you'll see on Hibert um then we'll have that South elevation the West which is in the rear and that North elevation there as well the applicants notified Property Owners within 1,000 fet as well as HOAs in registered neighborhoods um several neighbors did reach out to the applicant with questions regarding some of the um walls and lighting which the applicants have reached out back out to as well um overall staff finds that the proposed project complies with the Masa 240 General plan complies with chapter 69 of the MZ for site plan review complies with chapter 21 of the MZ for a b overlay and complies with the review criteria for the council use permit outlined in section 11706 of the MCO um staff recommends approval with conditions and happy to answer any questions thank you very much um should we open the questions for the board now and then go to public um yeah why don't we just go to the the public hearing for now so I I have one blue card uh Michael Wilson and uh if you can come up here uh introduce yourself to give us your address thank you and thank you uh my name is Michael Wilson and I own and operate the business that's next door at 260 South Hibert uh our business air spansion LLC we go by air baggot is our DBA um and we were really happy to see that uh something new was coming we bought the property and the Business from the same owner that they that Dave Downing bought the uh um that building from and we're pleased very pleased I we've had great uh relationship with them and I have gotten the information that uh you're the architect right the planning oh okay so the architect sent over the information about the uh uh the buildout I have one major concern and it's and I I want to address this with the downings um Jason has been my point of contact that there but um I specifically uh my biggest concern is that the separation of the line so our line the the property line goes directly from the outside of our building straight out to the street and we have a very limited space to work we because we do steel manufacturing we we also ship a lot of products import a lot of products we have we have to have a dumpster a full 40 yard dumpster and we have a uh a large rolloff container for steel and we have also um uh Barrel or drums for our machine uh cut offs so all of that stuff has to be stored historically the the previous owner had all the space that junkyard that she mentioned she's right they cleaned up the junkyard but he also had all the space the concern for me is that we have service vehicles that have to come in along that property line or right now they currently come in in this in this sort of the Cent the place between the two buildings and they have to come to the back and back in so they can deliver uh gas for our welding and uh um oxygen for our laser cutting and then all of our steel gets delivered back to the end where we bring it into the building it's the only entrance into the building other than the the docks through the warehouse so um with this separation my concern in the plan is that there is a wall that's being proposed along the property line a six foot um uh wall I'm assuming it's going to be concrete or or block wall um and that will that will severely restrict our ability to get in and out and also have our dumpsters in there that we need we have no other space to put those we have zero other space except to put them outside on the parking lot and um so I had I hoped that they would do this plan putting moving the the uh the fence to protect their stuff to the back end so that we could at least share that Central Access or at least give us enough space in there but apparently in the in the plan it looks like there's a wall that goes right along it and that's a big concern to mine and the other thing that that does is it it historically that the that property there was a dispute several years ago about the fire lane the fire lane going through and I noticed in the plan they have a fire lane for them but we have no fire lane so they're effectively taking away our the fire uh trucks ability to get to the back building and you know because there's no exit out of there it's a in and nowhere else to go if that if that wall is there so I I guess what I I'm not disputing and I definitely don't want to take away what what the doubting want to do and I I don't but I I am concerned about those things and about the uh specifically about the fire lane and also about our access to be able to get trucks through there with that there's a significant space there um the way they've drawn it up I'd like to work with the ding but I saw this plan this meeting was going on so I thought it would at least say it so it go on record um and I don't honestly don't know what the process is but I thought that I would at least bring it up so that it's if if it's something that wasn't discussed it at least has has to be you know something discussed so appreciate it thank you um how do should we have the planner address this theant here yeah I and and first of all there's the applicant here uh Vice chair of board members I don't believe that they're here I don't believe they're online either okay I'm I'm not sure if anybody is online if you could unmute yourself I don't believe that they are I did not receive any online comment cards um to speak um from applicants so Emily before we have you up um can we have Mr Wilson come back we've got a couple questions for you sure hey Mr Wilson so I'm trying to understand your situation so have you been using a part of the neighbor's property is is your access do you have to drive on to the to the neighbor's property to be able yeah right so there's a there's a line I mean you can see it by the by the difference in the concrete but that line is D dri drawn in that plan so we have our our dumpsters over here and then um if a truck comes they have to kind of go around the dumpster to get back there okay right now now we can do things to to minimize that right we have kind of to be fair we have spread out a little bit more than I wouldn't expect that in when they're doing what they do but but even if our dumpsters are all the way over to the furthest point they can go we still have space that I with a wall there and trying to bring a truck back in there with steel on it I think would be a a nightmare and have you have you been able to discuss this yet with the owner of the I sent an email over to Jason so hopefully we can discuss it I just didn't want to miss the opportunity to put on record if if there was an opportunity to okay appreciate it thank you yeah thank you uh Emily if we and have you come back thank you Vice chair and board members I'm going to um navigate back to our site plan here um okay um I was under the understanding that the applicants had talked to to the property owner to the South because I knew this question had come up um so it does look like on the site plan if you can kind of follow my cursor um that's really just the property line there there actually is no wall to the South um that's going to be open and um there is so far there is a shared access agreement um that just hasn't been recorded with the county yet that will allow access to to both the sites um so there is no wall for the South um I don't know exactly about where your dumpster is located um and if having no wall is still going to work um for for your circulation but there there is no wall to the South and there also is a shared access agreement um one of the conditions of approval is to get that recorded um I believe the only addition down here is interrupt I there is no wall because I spoke to the architect he said was possibility there would be a wall no wall I talked with him as well yeah sorry about that yeah sorry for the confusion okay that's great I also I did have another Bodo well Emma are are you if you're finished we'll have question do you have a question for for Emily for Emily okay Emily on that so on the far uh coming off of hiber there they have Gates but then does the gate continue across the Mr Wilson's property to the South is there a continuous gate or otherwise why is there a gate shown on the plan if it that's a really good point I don't believe that it continues it it looks like on the site plane it does end at the the property line of the CU there's a gate there today right is there like cor I believe there is a gate on that side and this one is just replacing it okay got you and and then is uh the the well I guess if there's no wall so when fire looked at the fire lane they didn't see any issues with with causing any additional risk to the adjacent Property Owners because of that fire lane yeah uh board member Peterson I I believe fire did sign off on everything they did review um the project as proposed but but what there's a joint access agreement you said there um uh Vice chair pitcher um I do have a shared access agreement um already it hasn't been recorded with the county but that is part of the conditions of approval that that be recorded but wouldn't he be a party to that I did and I did sign but I I I was not aware I thought it was the front end that I was signing the joint access that entry point which is like right about the the actual gate yeah right here this entry point I was under the the because the gate situation that you raised was of also so the gate the gate situation was also of question of mind because if it's truly no wall and there's no and there's Open Access why wouldn't that gate be across either centered or I mean we could put another gate there so then we have two gates opening into the same space I don't know what the point of that was if there was not going to be a wall and so um but I thought that the shared agreement was over here on this part right here I did not know the agreement if if I look at Street Viewer right now it has a gate there now today right and then it continues through it's a gate that's one gate that slides open and obviously they want to do this because they that gate slides open into their into their side and and uh I understand they want a swinging gate and I'm cool with that but um we can put gate but they're if they're truly going to share access of that center strip yeah if we're going to do that I mean I don't have a problem with that at all you you would just need to have a continual gate on your side so we put our own gate I don't care we'll put another gate just like it I I'll work with Dave if or with Jason if well and and I think that's the key is that we need to see where that shared access is and and if you could if you could do that and work with with planning to see where that is I think that'll solve your problem um Vice chair piure apparently the architect is online I think we're looking to see if we can get him led into the meeting here the architect for the project can I ask my other question you got one more chance okay so the other thing that in the plan here from the architect was that um we have a power line that comes to our building that runs under the new part of there where they're going to add building and so the Jason sent me the Jason Downing sent me a a note saying that we're going to have to pay $45,000 to to move the power line to be above above the ground I'm like who who's the Wii me okay that I'm going to have to pay that's my portion because it's power to my building and it's been there you know I I when I bought when I bought the building and the and the business the power was just there so now because they want to expand I'm going to have to pay $45,000 to move the power lines that for me it there's no return on that for me it's just pure expense that's not our issue uh yeah I'm I'm afraid that we can't do anything about that I I I think you know more about power than I do you're it's city of mas power correct yes I would contact the city of Mesa Department to see if there's an electrical designer you could speak with about that in in my experience not with the city of Mesa but with another utility whenever a private developer comes in then they have to make sure that everybody who's down the line so to speak continues to receive what they had at no expense of them so that that's how our utility practices I don't know how the city of Mesa works but okay I would assume that that would be the case Okay um I I I don't know that they can force that expense on you but okay all right all right well I'll advise just brought it up thank all right I appreciate you coming out um are there any other yeah I'll I'll close are there any other comments anybody else that any other blue cards that we have on on this one okay then I'll I'll go ahead and close the public hearing I'll open the the hearing of the the board are there any other questions or concerns that haven't been answered on this one did the architect ever get on yeah get can you guys hear me oh barely okay can you guys hear me yes we can hear you can you hi this is Sarah I'm the architect withs Kenzi Architects we're the ones working on the project I want to confirm that there's no uh currently there's no uh fence uh uh on the south side of the property and regarding the two gates they they mean to just have different control of access for both properties so that Dave Downing can close their property when they need to through the gate and the neighbor to the South can do the same through a different a different uh a different gate uh and I believe there is assured access agreement that has been signed between the two uh so I hope that that kind of answers this I'm just reting what Emily mentioned as well Emily the plan okay okay I why don't we have have Emily come back and if there's any other um add if there's anything else you want to address and then then we'll we'll close the the public hearing side and then uh open it up the board U Vice chair uh members of the board Evan Balmer principal planner of City Mesa just really quick on your the utility question uh there's on-site utility overhead lines and then there's uh lines on the Frontage the property owner needs to underground the on-site uh power lines for the expansion the lines on Hibert is an ongoing conversation that we're we're working through that just as a quick update on that just quick question it appears that the power lines on hibt are overhead and then they feed the Service drop to the hibt property the the property in question I should say is overhead as well right but I don't see where the property to the South is served off of that I don't when I look at a Google Street View which is only as good as the picture yeah but it's going right over the wall okay there are still some um Vice chair board member Carpenter there are still some some ongoing conversations on how all of that works it's an older part of town and the the electrical service there is a little um unique so those are ongoing conversations that we are aware of and we're working through thank you thank you em Emily is there anything else you want to um sum up uh uh Vice chair uh uh pitcher not unless you guys have any additional questions then I'll go ahead and close the the public hearing and I'll open it up for the any questions or comments from the board if none then then I'll recommend that uh someone make a motion I will be happy to do that um I move that we approve agenda item 4D which is case zo n 23- 00982 Dave Downing Associates Warehouse in District 4 within the 200 Block of South Hibbert wests side located north of Broadway Broadway Road and West of Mesa Drive a rezone from downtown business 2 and downtown residence 2 to downtown business 2 with a bonus intensity Zone overlay a council use permit and major site plan modification this request will allow for a warehouse development the staff recommendation is approval with conditions is there a second second then let's vote please we have a vote of five to one and um the motion passes so we'll go ahead and uh move forward then on the next item uh on the agenda which is a um Again The Landing at Falcon and uh we do we need a presentation for this or are we just going to proceed you just need to declare the public hearing open for the minor General plan Amendment then I will then I will open the public hearing for that minor uh General plan Amendment are there any comments are there any comments any blue cards then we will close the public hearing uh do do we need to take a vote on this or you will need to take a vote on both 6A and 6B you can entertain motions now if you want unless there's board discussion or other blue cards if if there's no disc discussion we'll we'll uh proceed then uh with a I'll entertain a motion then on for 6A and 6B I'll look for you okay I'll I'll are you volunteering yeah I just have to say right a motion to approve blah blah BL yep that's pretty much it although the blah blah blah you actually have to say all in favor okay um a motion to approve 6801 24346 GP minor Amendment for the landing of Falcon Field District 2 within the 4600 to 4800 block of East melbs Road the 1700 to 2,000 block of North 48th Street and the 1700 to 2,000 block of North 46th Street located east of Greenfield Road and South melops Road minor General plan Amendment changing the character area designation from mix use activity to employment staff recommendation adoption and 6B item 6B Z 23- 00653 the landing of Falcon Field District 2 within the 4600 to 4800 of East m CPS Road the 1700 to 2000 block of North 48 Street and the 1700 to 2000 block of North 46 Street located east of Greenfield Road and south of melops road rezone from light industrial to light industrial with a planned area development overlay site plan review and revocation of council use permit this request will allow for an additional development staff recommendation approval with conditions are there any seconds I'll second the motion please vote the the motion passes unanimously uh are there any other matters that need to come before the board uh Vice chair Pitter the only thing I would remind the board of is the uh board member appreciation breakfast that's coming up um I believe you've all received a notification for that breakfast so especially for those who are are turning out like board member Crockett at the end of June it is the end of June um it'd be really nice for you if you all had that opportunity to come in and um here thank you from the city for all the hard work that you do thank you very much and I hope to see you all there uh if I'll entertain a motion to adjourn I move that we adjourn our public our public meeting today any second second please vote I guess we don't vote there we go the meeting is adjourned thank you I'm GNA run out see you guys okay