>>COUN. DAVIS: OKAY, FOLKS, GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME STOOT MAY 15th EDITION OF THE ALBUQUERQUE CITY COUNCIL MEETING. ALL COUNCILORS ARE PRESENT OR WILL BE WITH US BEFORE WE GET TO ACTION ITEMS. WE BEGIN WITH THE AMENDMENT OF SILENCE AND PLEDGE. MADAM VICE-PRESIDENT. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I WOULD LIKE TO STAND AND TAKE A MOMENT OF SILENCE TO THINK ABOUT THOSE UP INFIRMINGTON AND -- FARMINGTON AND PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE BY COUNCILOR JONES AND IN SPANISH BY COUNCILOR PEÑA. [ INAUDIBLE ]. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. MR. PRESIDEN -- >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU, MADAM VICE-PRESIDENT. JUST A POINT OF PRIVILEGE TO INTRODUCE PERSONAL CHANGES. THIS WILL BE THE LAST MEETING FOR CHRIS MELENDREZ. HE'S TAKING ANOTHER POSITION IN GOVERNMENT LOCALLY. WE WANT TO INTRODUCE SITTING NEXT TO HIM IS JULIAN MOYA. AND WE WANT TO WELCOME JULIAN AND SAY THAT YOU KNOW TO CHRIS. -- THANK YOU. WE'RE GOING TO SEND YOU OFF WITH A SIX OR EIGHT-HOUR MEETING FOR OLD TIME'S SAKE. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR DAVIS. I WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE CHRIS AS WELL. AND JUST THANK HIM FOR HIS SERVICE. IT'S JUST AMAZING. HE HAS A LOT OF PERSONALITIES UP HERE. AND WE HAVE DIFFERENT IDEAS AND DIFFERENT WAYS OF THINKING. AND SOMETIMES DIFFERENT MINDSETS. CHRIS HAS BEEN AMAING IN HOW HE KEEPS EVERYTHING SEPARATE AND MAKES SURE ALL OF OUR SEPARATE NEEDS ARE MET. I JUST WANT TO COMMEND CHRIS MELENDREZ AND A JOB WELL DONE. YOU'RE GOING TO BE VERY HARD TO REPLACE. I LIKE TO GIVE HIM A ROUND OF APPLAUSE. THANK YOU. [ APPLAUSE ] >>COUN. DAVIS: MADAM VICE-PRESIDENT -- >>COUN. GROUT: WE CAN DO THAT. >>COUN. DAVIS: MAKE HIM COME BACK. >>COUN. GROUT: CISCIC PLAZA PARKING PASSES ARE PROVIDED FOR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC. YOU CAN OBTAIN A PARKING PASS FROM COUNCIL STAFF AT THE TABLE NEAR THE CHAM BR ENTRANCE. MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC CITY STAFF AND MEAD JUTHE ABILITY TO VIEW THIS MEETING IN PERSON AND ON LIVE STREAMS THROUGH FOUR DIFFERENT PLATFORMS. GOVTV, GOVTV WEBSITE, YOU TUBE AND ZOOM. THE LIVE STREAMS CAN BE ACCESSED FROM MOST SMART PHONES TAT LBTS OR COMPUTERS. THIS IS CLOSED CAPTIONED AND YOU MAY ENABLE IT ON YOUR DEVICE. THE RECORDING OF THIS AND ALL PAST COUNCIL MEETINGS WILL REMAIN AVAILABLE ON THE CITY COUNCIL WEBSITE. COUNCIL STAFF IS AVAILABLE VIA TELEPHONE IF MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC NEED HELP FINDING VIDEOS ONLINE. PLEASE CALL 505-768-3100 MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY DURING BUSINESS HOURS. THE CITY COUNCIL WILL TAKE A BREAK AT 7 P.M. IF NEEDED. WE WANT TONIGHT'S PROCEEDING TO BE AS CIVIL AND RESPECTFUL AS POSSIBLE. PLEASE NO PERSONAL ATTACKS OR OTHER OUTBURSTING DURING THE MEETING. THE MEETING WILL BE SMOOTHER IF WE'RE RESPECTFUL OF ONE ANOTHER. PROCLAMATIONS AND PRESENTATIONS. COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR GROUT. THE PROCLAMATION IS BEING SIGNED. WE HAVE A FEW COPIES. I HAVE ONE. AND YOU HAVE YOURS? >>COUN. GROUT: I DO. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: I'M GOING TO READ FIRST, SECOND, THIRD, FOURTH WHEREAS AND YOU START ON THE FIFTH. ALBUQUERQUE POLICE WEEK. THIS IS THE WEEK ONCE A YEAR WHERE ALL POLICE OFFICERS HONOR THE FALLEN IN WASHINGTON D.C. IT'S QUITE THE CEREMONY. EVERY POLICE OFFICER THAT CAN MAKE IT WILL MAKE IT. THEY'LL DRESS IN THE CLASS A UNIFORM. THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT ACTIVITIES THAT TAKE PLACE DURING POLICE WORK. AND IT'S JUST BASICALLY HONORING THE ULTIMATE SACRIFICE THAT POLICE OFFICERS GIVE WHILE THEY'RE IN THE LINE OF DUTY. EACH OFFICER GOES TO WORK EVERY SINGLE DAY NOT KNOWING IF THEY'RE GOING TO COME BACK TO THEIR FAMILIES. AND THIS IS WHY WE HONOR THE FALLEN BECAUSE SOME OF THOSE OFFICERS DID NOT MAKE IT BACK TO THEIR FAMILIES. >>COUN. GROUT: AND COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, I THINK WE HAVE DELORES CHARLES TOM TIM BOB LOU, RYAN, AND VINCE HERE TO ACCEPT THIS PROCLAMATION. IF YOU WILL COME FORWARD. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: OKAY. WERE YOU GOING TO COME ON UP? WHO ELSE DID I SEE? THERE'S BRIAN. ANYBODY ELSE THAT WE MISSED? THESE ARE THE FOLKS FROM THE FOP. AND EVERY YEAR THE ALBUQUERQUE POLICE DEPARTMENT UNION THE APOA WILL SEND A TON TINGEANT TO THE NATIONAL POLICE WEEK IN WASHINGTON. SO WILL THE FOP. THESE ARE THE INDIVIDUALS WHO ACTUALLY STAYED BACK BECAUSE WE ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF POLICE WEEK RIGHT NOW. YOU CAN JUMP ON THE INTERNET AND YOU CAN SEE WHAT'S GOING ON RIGHT NOW IN POLICE WEEK. AND IT'S SOMETHING REALLY, REALLY SPECIAL TO SEE. THOUSANDS UPON THOUSANDS OF OFFICERS ACROSS THE WHOLE UNITED STATES CONVERGE IN WASHINGTON DURING THIS DAY. YOU CAN TAKE A MARKER AND USE A PENCIL AND STENCIL TO ACTUALLY RECORD YOUR FALLEN OFFICER IF YOU WOULD LIKE. WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO DO READ THE PROCLAMATION, THE FIRST HALF OF IT. WHEREAS FROM THE BEGINNING OF THIS NATION LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS PLAYED AN IMPORTANT ROLE IN SAFEGUARDING THE RIGHTS AND FREEDOMS GUARANTEED BY THE CONSTITUTION AND IN PROTECTING THE LIVES AND PROPERTY OF AMERICAN CITIZENS. PRESIDENT JOHN F KEN DEISSUES A PROCLAMATION ON MAY 4th, 1963 PASSED BY THE CONGRESS DESIGNATING MAY 15 AS NATIONAL POLICE OFFICER'S MEMORIAL DAY IN HONOR OF THOSE COURAGEOUS DEEDS OF PERFORMED BY POLICE OFFICERS. HONORING THOSE WHO LOST THEIR LIVES OR BECAME DISABLED IN THE LINE OF DUTY. AS SUCH, EVERY CALENDAR WEEK THAT INCLUDES MAY 15th IS OFFICIALLY KNOWN AS POLICE WEEK. AND WHEREAS, THE CONGRESS AND PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES HAVE DESIGNATED MAY 15th, 2023 AS NATIONAL POLICE OFFICER'S MEMORIAL DAY AND THE WEEK IN WHICH IT FALLS, MAY 14 THROUGH THE 20th AS NATIONAL POLICE WEEK. AND WHEREAS, THE MEMBERS OF THE FRATERNAL ORDER OF POLICE AND ALBUQUERQUE LODGE ONE AND THE LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER'S OF THE ALBUQUERQUE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND ALL OFFICERS IN THE STATE OF NEW MEXICO PLAY AN ESSENTIAL ROLE IN SAFEGUARDING THE RIGHTS AND FREEDOMS OF THE CITIZENS OF ALBUQUERQUE AND NEW MEXICO. AND WHEREAS, IT IS IMPORTANT THAT ALL CITIZENS KNOW AND UNDERSTAND THE PROBLEMS DUTIES AND RESPONSIBILITIES OF THE POLICE OFFICERS AND THAT POLICE OFFICERS RECOGNIZE THEIR DUTY TO PROTECT AND SERVE THE PEOPLE BY SAFEGUARDING LIFE AND PROPERTY. PROTECTING THEM AGAINST VIOLENCE AND DISORDER, PROTECTING THEM AGAINST DECEPTION AND PROTECTING THE WEAK AGAINST OPPRESSION AND INTIMIDATION. >>COUN. GROUT: WHEREAS, 563 PEACE OFFICERS AND SURVIVING FAMILIES WILL BE HONORED ON MAY 15th IN THE NATION'S CAPITOL IN REMEMBRANCE TO WHOEZ -- THOSE WHO MADE THE SACRIFICE IN DUTY. AND THREE NEW MEXICO POLICE OFFICERS WOULD BE WILL BE HONORED IN WASHINGTON D.C., INCLUDING CORP LL FRAGSER, AND UNDERSHERIFF JEFFREY MONTOYA OF THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. NEW MEXICO'S FALLEN WILL NEVER BE FORGOTTEN. WHEREAS, PEACE OFFICERS IN ALBUQUERQUE AND THROUGHOUT THE STATE OF NEW MEXICO LEAVE THEIR FAMILIES EVERY DAY NOT KNOWING WHETHER THEY WILL RETURN HOME AFTER THEIR SHIFT PROVIING VITAL PUBLIC SERVICE. NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE ALBUQUERQUE CITY COUNCIL DOES HEARBY PROCLAIM MAY 15th, 2023 AS NATIONAL PEACE OFFICER'S DAY. AND POLICE WEEK IN THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE. THIS COUNCIL CALLS UPON ALL CITIZENS OF ALBUQUERQUE AND CIVIL AND EDUCATIONAL ORGANIZATIONS TO OBSERVE THIS DAY AND WEEK WITH APPROPRIATE CEREMONIES IN WHICH ALL PEOPLE MAY JOIN IN COMHELPERATING POLICE OFFICERS PAST AND PRESENT. OFFICERS WHO BY THEIR FAITHFUL AND LOYAL DEVOTION TO THE DUTIES AND RESPONSIBILITIES HAVE RENDERED A DEDICATED SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY. AND IN DOING SO, HAVING ESTABLISHED FOR THEMSELVES AN INVALUABLE AND ENDURING REPRESENTATION OF PRESERING RIGHTS AND SECURITY FOR ALL CITIZENS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. FOR YOUR SERVICE TO OUR COMMUNITY. APPRECIATE YOU. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: WITH THAT, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY A FEW WORDS? [ INAUDIBLE ] -- TO THE MEMORIAL. THEY SPEND A LOT OF TIME THERE AT THEIR OWN EXPENSE. THANK YOU FOR RECOGNIZING LAW ENFORCEMENT. ALL OF US ARE RETIRED LAW ENFORCEMENT. >> WE APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU, EVERYONE. [ APPLAUSE ]. >>COUN. GROUT: AT THIS TIME, I HAVE A PROCLAMATION RECOGNIZING NATIONAL FOSTER CARE MONTH. ANN AND MARILYN ARE PRESENT TO ACCEPT. HI, LADIES, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. WHEREAS, SAFE HEALTHY CHILDREN ARE THE KEY TO A SAFE, HEALTHY FUTURE FOR OUR COMMUNITY. AND WHEREAS, EVERY CHILD DESERVES TO GROW UP IN A CARING AND SUPPORTIVE HOME. AND WHEREAS, HEARING THOSE UNFORTUNATE TIMES WHEN CHILDREN CANNOT SAFELY REMAIN IN THE PRIMARY HOMES, COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHO OPEN THEIR HEARTS AND HOMES TO FOSTER CHILDREN PROVIDE A VITAL SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY. AND WHEREAS FOSTER PARENTS PROVIDE THE LOVE, SAFETY, AND STABILITY THAT CHILDREN NEED TO HELP OVERCOME PAST TRAUMATIC EXPERIENCES AND DEVELOP THEIR FULL POTENTIAL. WHEREAS, THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE, SUPPORTS PARTNERSHIPS WITH FAMILIES, CHILD WELFARE STAFF, AND PUBLIC AND PRIVATE AGENIES THAT WORK TO ENSURE CHILDREN ARE SUPPORTED AND SUCCESSFUL. BE IT PROCLAIMED THAT THE COUNCIL, THE GOVERNING BECAUY OF THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE JOINS THE NATION IN RECOGNIZE MAY AS NATIONAL FOSTER FAMILY APPRECIATION MONTH. AND DECLARES MAY 15th FOSTER FAMILY APPRECIATION DAY. IN HONOR OF THE FOSTER PARENTS WHO ADVOCATE FOR THE CHILDREN IN THEIR CARE AND ARE HELPING TO ENSURE THEIR BRIGHTEST POSSIBLE FUTURES. DURING THIS NATIONAL FOSTER CARE MONTH, WE SHARE OUR GRATITUDE FOR THOSE WHO SUPPORT YOUTH AND FAMILIES BY BEING A RESOURCE TO CHILDREN IN NEED. AND CAN I ASK YOU TO SPEAK ABOUT WHAT YOU DO AND ALL THE FOSTER COMMUNITY DOES IN NEW MEXICO. >> THANK YOU. I AM THE FOUNDER AND EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF NEW MEXICO CHILD'S FIRST NETWORK. AND I JUST WANT TO SAY, I WROTE SOMETHING AND I WANT TO SHARE IT AND I'LL EXPLAIN. FOR MORE THAN 1800 NEW MEXICO CHILDREN AND YOUTH LIVING IN FOSTER CARE DESERVE TO GROW UP IN SAFE AND LOVING HOMEDIZE VOTED TO HEALTH AND HAPPY HOMES. MORE THAN HALF LIVE IN BERNALILLO COUNTY. THIS MONTH WE HONOR THE COURAGE OF YOUNG PEOPLE IN FOSTER CARE INDUR CHALLENGES NO CHILD SHOULD HAVE TO SEE. WE GIVE THANKS TO THE FOSTER CARE PARENTS WHO GIVE CARE DURING THEIR NEED. WE RECOGNIZE THE PARENTS OF FAMILIES WHO WORK HARD TO OVERCOME ADIFFICULT CIRCUMSTANCES TO REUNIT WITH THE CHILDREN. AND THANK YOU, CITY COUNCIL, FOR SUPPORTING THE VOLUNTEERS AND PROFESSIONALS. IT'S IMPORTANT TO REACH OUT TO THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND COMMUNITIES TO THE FOSTER CARES AND FAMILIES AND OTHER CARE GIVERS. I WANT TO SAY, WHAT YOU ALL HAVE DONE AND REALLY PRIORITIING PREVENTION AND UPSTREAM PRIMARY PREVENTION AND HANDLE WITH CARE INITIATIVE IS ONE OF THE MOST PROFOUND AND SUBSTANTIAL WAYS WE CAN PREVENT TRAUMA AND CHILD ABUSE FROM EVER HAPPENING. THE CHILDREN IN NEW MEXICO HAVE THE HIGHEST NUMBER OF ADVERSE EXPERIENCES IN THE ENTIRE COUNTRY. IT WILL TAKE ALL OF US TO LIFT THIS UP. LAST YEAR DURING MAY, THERE WERE 435 EMERGENCY 911 REPORTS ON CHILD ABUSE. THAT'S 14AT'S 1411 CALLS A DAY. OUR FIRST RESPONDERS SEE IT EVERY DAY. WHAT YOU HAVE DONE WITH PRIMARY CARE, AND THE OPIOID SETTLEMENT FUND AND PRIORITIING MENTAL HEALTH. THIS MONTH WE CELEBRATE THOSE FAMILIES THAT ARE CARING FOR WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THE WORST HAPPENS. SO, I ALSO WANT TO LEAVE YOU AND INVITE YOU PERSONALLY ON SATURDAY JULY 15th AT TINGLY BEACH, THANK YOU TO COUNCILOR GROUT AND THE MAYOR, THE CYFD WILL BE HAVING THE FIRST ANNUAL FOSTER CARE PICNIC AT TINGLY BEACH TO CELEBRATE AC35 WHICH PASSED THE LEGISLATURE PROVIING FREE FISHING LICENSES FOR ALL FAMILIES IN FOSTER CARE. THANKS TO THE BIPARTISAN, ALL THE GOVERNMENT WORKING TOGETHER, WE HAVE TINGLY BEACHED RESERVED AND ALL FOSTER FAMIIES WILL BE INVITED TO CELEBRATE THE NEW LAW. THANK YOU. I HOPE YOU JOIN US. FISH. BRING SHADE AND WATER. JUST KNOW THERE'S GOOD IN THE WORLD AND YOU'RE PARTIALLY RESPONSIBILITY -- RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU FOR THE HARD WORK YOU DO AND ADVOCATING FOR THE CHILDREN. >> THANK YOU. [ APPLAUSE ]. >>COUN. GROUT: OKAY. LET'S MOVE ON TO QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS FOR THE ADMINISTRATION. COUNCILORS, ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE ADMINISTRATION? COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THAT YOU KNOW, MADAM CHAIR. MY QUESTIONS WERE FOR THE ZOO. THERE'S A REPEAT OF QUESTIONS I ASKED ON APRIL 27th. I WAS TOLD I WOULD GET ANSWERS TO THEM. I HAVEN'T HEARD. I'M GOING TO ASK THEM AGAIN. THE FIRST ONE IS HOW MANY ANIMALS ARE BEING MOVED TO ALBUQUERQUE FOR THE ASIA EXHIBIT SET TO OPEN UP SOON? >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCILOR DAVIS, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, JUST BRING UP MY NOTES. THE ASIA OPENING, THERE ARE NO NEW ANIMALS COMING FOR THE ASIA EXHIBIT. ALL THE ANIMALS MOVING INTO THE EXHIBIT ARE ANIMALS CURRENTLY IN THE CARE OF THE BIO PARK ZOO. ONE TIGER, TWO EAGLES, TWO SNOW LEOPARDS, THREE -- AND FIVE ARANG TANGS. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: WHEN WERE THEY MOVED HERE? >> COUNCILOR DAVIS, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, I'M NOT SURE WHEN EACH OF THOSE ANIMALS CAME HERE MOST OF THEM HAVE BEEN HERE FOR SEVERAL YEARS. EXCEPT FOR THE BABY ORANORANGAT. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: HOW MANY ANIMALS ARE MOVED TO ALBUQUERQUE FOR AN EXHIBIT THAT SIZE? >> COUNCILOR DAVIS, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, AUSTRALIA IS ACTUALLY OPENING IN TWO PHASES. AND BECAUSE THERE WAS A LOT OF DEMOLITION OF THE OLD SPACES, AND CONSTRUCTION OF NEW SPACES, MOST OF THE ANIMALS IN THE SPACES WERE ACTUALLY MOVED OUT COMPLETELY. SO THE ANIMALS COMING IN FROM AUSTRALIA PHASE ONE WHICH IS OPENING THIS SUMMER ARE ACTUALLY -- THAT WILL BE OPENING IN LATE FALL. IT'S A MIX OF WATER SPECIES. THIS INCLUDES FRECKLED DUCKS, HARD HEAD PING EARED DUCKS, AND PACIFIC BLACK DUCKS. 12 PENGUINS. 15 TO 20 LORIKEETS AND. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: HOW MANY DUCKS? >> 10 TO 15 OF THE DIFFERENT TOTAL. OVERALL. THAT'S FOR AUSTRALIA PHASE ONE, COUNCILOR. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: AND PHASE TWO IN. >> PHASE TWO, COUNCILOR DAVIS, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, THERE ARE THREE WESTERN GRAY KANGAROOS IN THE ZOO THAT WILL MOVE INTO THAT EXHIBIT. AND WE'RE EXPECTING THREE ADDITIONAL RED KANGAROOS. AND ONE -- >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: FOR THE HERITAGE FARM DISPLAY, HOW MANY ANIMALS ARE MOVED INTO THAT DISPLAY WHEN IT'S COMPLETED WITH THE REMODEL THAT'S HAPPENING? >> COUNCILOR DAVIS, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN I THINK I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THE HERITAGE FARM, THE PRIMARY FOCUS OF THE EXPANSION IS INCREASED WALKING PATHS AND AGRICULTURAL SPACE. THAT'S ONE OF THE MAJOR REASONS, AND BRINGING BACK THE TRAIN TO THE BIO PARK. THAT'S SOME OF THE MAJOR PIECES. IN ADDITION WE'RE EXPANDING THE ANIMAL BARNS TO MAKE THEM LARGER AND EXPANDING THE PASTURES. WE DON'T HAVE PLANS TO BRING ADDITIONAL ANIMALS IN. CURRENTLY IN THE CARE OF BIO PARK THERE ARE FIVE RED TURKEYS, SEVEN NAVJO SHEEP, FOUR BLACK GIANT CHICKENS, TWO SPANISH DOMESTIC CHICKENS, AND ONE DOMESTIC HORSE. AFTER THE HERITAGE FARM IXPANSION, THE ANIMAL BARN WILL HAVE SPACE FOR FOUR HORSES AND UP TO THREE COWS. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU. OF ALL THOSE ANIMALS YOU TALKED ABOUT FOR THE DISPLAY, HOW MANY OF THEM WERE PURCHASED AND HOW MANY WERE ADOPTED OR RESCUED? >> COUNCILOR DAVIS, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, THE DOMESTIC HORSE WE HAVE AT THE HERITAGE FARMS WAS DONATED AND ADOPTED BY DR. RALPH ZIMMERMAN. MANY OTHER ANIMALS HAVE BEEN THERE FOR A WHILE. THE THE MOST RECENT PURCHASES WERE SIX FEMALE SHEEP IN MAY OF 2020. AND FIVE RED TURKEYS IN APRIL OF 2021. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU. JUST TO BE CLEAR, ALL THE ANIMALS AT THE HERITAGE FARM WERE PURCHASED OR DONATED. NONE WERE FROM RESCUES OR THROUGH THE CITY SHELTER SYSTEM WHICH ACTUALLY DOES TAKE IN FARMED ANIMALS QUITE REGULARLY? >> COUNCILOR DAVIS, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, I CAN ONLY -- I CAN'T SPEAK TO ALL OF THOSE ANIMALS. THE SHEEP AND -- I CAN ONLY SPEAK TO THE ONES THAT POLICE HAD RECENT RECORDS ON. I'M SURE I CAN FIND OUT MORE INFORMATION FOR YOU ON THE OTHER CHICKEN AND SHEEP. >>COUN. GROUT: COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: MADAM VICE-PRESIDENT, THANK YOU. MR. MELENDREZ, CAN YOU -- I DON'T KNOW IF I MISSED IT OR NOT, BUT DID WE APPROVE THE HOUSING FORWARD INITIATIVE? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR BASSAN, NO, IT'S PACKAGS IN O-22-54. IT'S GOING TO BE DEFERRED TONIGHT IF THE VOTE GOES ACCORDINGLY TO JUNE 5th. THE COUNCIL HASN'T HEARD IT AS A FULL BODY AND IT'S NOT APPROVED. >>COUN. BASSAN: THAT'S WHAT I RECALL TOO. I WANT TO CIRCLE BACK OVER TO ADMINISTRATION. I HAD THE PLEASURE OF GOING TO THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE WEBSITE AND THE BIG THING IN YOUR FACE IS THE HOUSING FORWARD PLAN BUT IT SURE DOES LOOK LIKE IT'S ALREADY DONE. IF YOU CLICK ON IT GOES TO OTHER ISSUES AND DETAILS IN THE PLAN. IT'S NOT A QUESTION, BUT IT'S A COMMENT THAT IT DOES LOOK VERY PREMATURE. WE HAVEN'T HEARD IT, WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT IT, WE HAVEN'T VOTED ON IT. IT SEEMS LIKE THE ADMINISTRATION HAS DECIDED THIS IS SOMETHING THAT HAS HAPPENED. WE HAVEN'T DECIDED THAT, YET. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. COUNCILOR BENTON. >>COUN. BENTON: JUST TO BE CLEAR, THE SPONSORS HAVE DECIDED TO PUT THIS OFF UNTIL AFTER WE'RE FINISHED WITH THE BUDGET SO IT CAN HAVE THE FULL ATTENTION SPAN ON THIS VERY IMPORTANT ISSUE. TWO IMPORTANT BILLS. ONE HAVING TO DO WITH THE HOUSING BUT THE OTHER DOING WITH ANNUAL ZONING UPDATE WHICH FOR EVERYONE'S INFORMATION DOESN'T MEAN WE'RE UPIDATING EVERY YEAR BECAUSE THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG WITH IT. WE'RE DOING TOTAL QUALITY MANAGEMENT ON IT. WHICH IS THE WAY YOU DO IT. YOU TAKE A LOOK EVERY YEAR AND MAKE CORRECTIONS AND HOPEFULLY YEAR BY YEAR, LESS BY LESS DAMAGE FOR YOU IN THE FUTURE. I WON'T BENEFIT FROM THAT. IF IT BECOMES LESS AND LESS WE'LL UNDERSTAND THINGS ARE WORKING PRETTY WELL WITH THE IGO. WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE THINGS THAT DON'T WORK. AND IT'S A REALLY GOOD THING IN THAT THE OLD ZONING SYSTEM WAS WILLY-NILLY AS TO WHETHER IT WAS UPDATED. IT WAS RANDOMLY UPDATED. I WOULD DESCRIBE IT THAT WAY. JUST WANT TO PUT THAT OUT THERE SINCE WE'RE ON THE SUBJECT. WE SHOULD HAVE A VERY GOOD, CLEAR WEBSITE MESSAGING. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR BENTON. COUNCILOR LEWIS. >>COUN. LEWIS: THANK YOU, MADAM VICE-PRESIDENT. QUESTION FOR THE CHIEF. THANK YOU, CHIEF. AS HE'S COMING DOWN. I JUST WANTED TO KNOW IF YOU'D TALK ABOUT OPERATION STICKY FINGERS AND ESPECIALLY SOME OF THE DATA THAT YOU GATHERED FROM THAT OPERATION AS IT RELATES TO CITY BUSES. THE DAA THAT YOU ALL GATHERED THAT YOUR INVESTIGATORS GATHERED RELATED TO THE FREE BUS PROGRAM. >> COUNCILOR GROUT, COUNCILOR LEWIS, ALBUQUERQUE POLICE DEPARTMENT CONDUCTED AN OPERATION LAST WEEK. TWO WEEKS AGO. IN THE AREA OF UPTOWN AND ON THE WEST SIDE. AND THIS OPERATION WAS TO IDENTIFY INDIVIDUALS WHO WERE INVOLVED IN SHOPLIFTING COMPLAINTS WE GOT FROM BOTH AREAS. THE OPERATION CONSISTENTED OF WATCHING INDIVIDUALS COME INTO SHOPPING DISTRICTS AND LEAVING THEM. THERE WAS A NUMBER OF INDIVIDUALS WHO WERE SEEN EITHER EXITING OR GETTING ON TO A CITY BUS AFTER THEY CONDUCTED THEIR SHOPLIFTING. ONE OF THE INTERESTING THINGS THAT OCCURRED DURING THE OPERATION AND ONE OF THE STEPS WE'VE TALKIN' -- TAKEN TO GO FORWARD, WE'VE MADE ACS REFERRALS BECAUSE SOME OF THE INDIVIDUALS INVOLVED WERE -- IT SEEMS TO BE A HOMELESS ISSUE AND LOOKING FOR RESOURCES. WE HAVE FURTHER OPERATIONS WE CONDUCTED IN THE NEAR FUTURE AND WE'RE HOPING BY GETTING ACS OUT THERE WE'RE ABLE TO GET SOME OF THE RESOURCES AND CUT DOWN THE LOWER LEVEL SHOPLIFTING. THERE WAS INDIVIDUALS THAT UTILIZED PUBLIC SAFETY. AND THE FACT WE TOOK ARMED ROBBERY SUSPECT INTO CUSDY. HE USED A PIKE -- BIKE AND USED A CITY BUS. >>COUN. LEWIS: YOUR INVESTIGATION SHOWED THEY WERE METTICULOUS. IT SHOWED THERE WAS ONE-THIRD OF THE PEOPLE ARRESTED WERE USING CITY BUSES. TOOK ADVANTAGE OF THE FREE BUS PROGRAM AND GOT ON THE BUS GOING TO OR FROM -- AS YOU MENTIONED, BY THE WAY, COMBRAT WORK. I THINK OUR RETAILERS ARE LOOKING FOR THE CITY TO HELP THEM. BUSINESSES ARE DESPERATE BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE OVERRUNNING THEIR STORES AND STEALING THEIR STUFF. YOU FOUND STOLEN ITEMS AND ARRESTED A LOT OF PEOPLE. AND PEOPLE WERE FOUND TO TRADE ITEMS FOR DRUGS. THEY WERE GETTING ON THE BUS WITH FENTANYL AND HEAVY DRUG USE. ARE YOU GIVING THAT INFORMATION TO THE TRANSIT DEPARTMENT? ARE YOU GIVING IT TO THE TRANSIT SAFETY OFFICERS THAT ARE THERE? ARE YOU SHARING THAT INFORMATION? BY THE WAY, I KNOW THE JOURNAL GOT A HOLD OF THAT. HOW ARE YOU SHARING THIS STATISTICS AND THE DAA FROM THE OPERATION? >> COUNCILOR LEWIS, THE ALBUQUERQUE POLICE DEPARTMENT DID A PRESS CONFERENCE. WE RELEASED ALL THE INFORMATION AT THAT TIME. AND THE MEDIA WROTE THE STORIES AS THEY SAW FIT. WE'RE SHARING THIS INFORMATION WITH OTHER CITY ENTITIES AND LOOKING FOR SOLUTIONS. WE'RE PROPOING IS LOOKING INTO THE LEGALITY TO SEE IF IT'S POSSIBLE TO GIVE CRIMINAL PRES PASS INDIVIDUALS TAKEN INTO CUSTODY FOR COMMITTING CRIMES. THERE'S A LOT OF WORK TO DO. WE'LL CONTINUE TO WORK OPERATIONS AND OFFER SOLUTIONS. OUR GOVERNING BODY CAN MAKE DECISIONS OR DIRECTORS CAN MAKE DECISIONS. >>COUN. LEWIS: QUESTION FOR THE TRANSIT DIRECTOR RELATED TO THE STUDY CURRENTLY PERFORMING REGARDING THE FREE PILOT PROGRAM. I GUESS I DIRECT THIS TO MR. RAEL. THANK YOU, DIRECTOR. THIS STUDY OR DATA, IT'S ADDED TO SOME OTHER DATA WE GOT THIS LAST YEAR, AND THE JOURNAL DID A GOOD JOB DESCRIING THE LAST YEAR REGARDING SAFETY ON THE BUSES, REMINDED US THAT LAST SUMMER THAT FORMER NEW MEXICO ATTORNEY GENERAL BALDERAS WARNED ALBUQUERQUE CITY COUNCIL THAT SHOPLIFTERS WERE USING THE CITY'S FREE BUSES AS GET-AWAY VEHICLES. THE ATTORNEY GENERAL SAID HE BELIEVED THE FREE FARES PILOT PROGRAM WAS ATTRACTING SHOPLIFTERS WORKING OUT OF STORES WITH POWER TOOLS, ELECTRONICS, APPLIANCES AND HOPPING ON FREE BUSES TO ESCAPE. WE SOMEHOW FORGOT THAT HE SAID THIS IN THE DISCUSSIONS OVER THE LAST YEAR. MAYBE HE DIDN'T REALLY SAY THAT BUT HE ACTUALLY DID SAY THAT BECAUSE OF INVESTIGATIONS THAT THEY DID. THEN, WE HAVE THE OPERATION STICKY FINGERS THAT APD DID THAT PROVED IT TO BE TRUE. IN FACT, THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE USING THE FREE BUS FARE PROGRAM AND TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE CITY BUSES TO GET TO AND FROM PLACES WHERE THEY'RE COMMITTING CRIMES, RETAIL CRIMES. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, ON TOP OF THAT WE HAVE SPECIFICALLY BUS DRIVERS WHO SAID THAT THEY QUIT BECAUSE OF THE FREE PILOT PROGRAM AND SAYING THAT THEY FELT LIKE THAT PROGRAM WAS CONTRIBUTING TO CRIME ON THE BUSES. AND CERTAINLY TO THEIR QUALITY OF THEIR JOB. WHICH WAS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY THEY QUIT. SO, I GUESS MY QUESTION TO YOU IS WE HAVE THE ANALYSIS COMING UP. WE'RE STILL WORKING ON THE ANALYSIS OF THE FULL PILOT PROGRAM, AND YOUR DEPARTMENT IS GOING TO COME BACK WITH RECOMMENDATIONS ABOUT HOW TO PROCEED. WE MADE IT TO WHERE WE CAN'T MAKE DECISIONS REGARDING THIS. WE'VE GIVEN YOU A 44% INCREASE TO THE DEPARTMENT WE'RE GOING TO VOTE ON TONIGHT. 44% INCREASE IN FUNDING TO THE TRANSIT DEPARTMENT. THERE'S$3 MILLION TO FUND THE FREE PILOT PROGRAM. AND YET, RIDERSHIP IS DOWN. I'VE HEARD A LOT OF TALK. I'M TALKING ABOUT MY CONSTITUENTS. PEOPLE ARE SAYING THE BUSES ARE DIRTY. THEY OBSERVE DRUG USE. THEY DON'T FEEL SAFE ON THE BUSES. SO, I GUESS MY QUESTION TO YOU IS, IN THIS ANALYSIS, DO YOU INTEND FOR THAT ANALYSIS TO INCLUDE HOW SHOPLIFTERS ARE ABUSING FREE FARES AND HOW THE PILOT PROGRAM IS CONTRADICTING TO CAUSING DRIVE CAUSING DRIVERS TO QUIT. >> COUNCILOR DAVIS, COUNCILOR LEWIS, THAT'S A LOT RIGHT THERE. WE ARE WORKING THROUGH THE ANALYSIS. IT WILL BE A THOROUGH ANALYSIS OF THE ZERO FARE PILOT PROGRAM. WE WILL BE DISCUSSING AND HAVE A TECHNICAL TEAM THAT COUNCIL SET UP. INVOLVED IN THE DISCUSSIONS. THEY MEET ON A WEEKLY BASIS. I WILL STATE THAT IF YOU LOOK AROUND THE COUNTRY THIS IS A SOCIETAL ISSUE. IT'S NOT JUST ZERO FARES HAVING IMPACT. THERE'S PLACES LIKE L.A., AND THERE'S PLACES ACROSS THE COUNTRY THAT THEY DO CHARGE A FARE AND SEE THE SAME ISSUES WE'RE SEEING WITHIN OUR TRANSIT DEPARTMENT. WE WILL BE ADDRESSING THAT. THAT'S WHY I THINK A LOT OF WHAT WE DISCUSSED WITH THE SAFETY AND SECURITY IS THE BIGGEST CONCERN. REALLY TRYING TO, I THINK, AS FAR AS WHAT CHIEF DID WITH HIS TEAM WITH THE LAST WEEK WITH OPERATION TO REALLY GET EYES ON THE BUSES EYES ON NOT ONLY THE BUSES BUT THE OTHER MEANS WHICH THE PEOPLE WERE GETTING AWAY AND USING. WHETHER IT BE BIKES OR VEHICLES THEY HAD, ON FOOT. ALL OF THAT COMES INTO PLAY. THAT'S ONE THIRD THAT DID THAT, BUT TWO-THIRDS THAT WEREN'T DOING THAT. I THINK WE HAVE A BIGGER ISSUE. IT IS A SOCIETAL ISSUE THAT WE'RE SEEING THESE THINGS HAPPEN. >>COUN. LEWIS: THANK YOU. WE'VE GOT A LOT OF CHANCES TO TALK ABOUT THIS. I ONLY HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME TO ASK YOU QUESTIONS. HAVE YOU RECEIVED THAT DATA? BY THE WAY, THAT'S GREAT. TWO-THIRDS OF THE PEOPLE WEREN'T USING THE BUS, BUT ONE-THIRD WERE. A THIRD OF THE PEOPLE WERE USING THE PILOT PROGRAM TO AND FROM PLACES WHERE THEY STEAL THINGS. IT'S ONE OF THE CAUSES. I THINK YOU -- I'M HAVING A HARD TIME CONVINCING EVERYBODY TO LOOK AT THE DAA RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU AND ADMIT THIS PILOT PROGRAM HAS CAUSED SOME ISSUES AND CHALLENGES WHETHER IT BE WITH DRIVERS QUITTING BECAUSE OF IT, WHAT THEY'VE SEEN. THE DAA WE'VE GOT FROM THE ATTORNEY GENERAL. APD. I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, HAVE YOU RECEIVED THAT? YOU KNOW, I WOULD ASSUME YOU REALLY WANT TO GET THAT DATA FROM OPERATION STICKY FINGERS AND REALLY HOW ARE YOU USING THE DATE A? HAVE YOU RECEIVED THE DAA AND HOW ARE YOU USING IT? >> WE HAVEN'T GOT IT DIRECTLY OTHER THAN WHAT'S IN THE MEDIA. WE ARE ON A WEEKLY BASIS TALKING WITH APD. WE TALK ABOUT A LOT OF THE ISSUES GOING ON. AND MAKING SURE THAT WE KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON IN AREA COMMANDS AND ACTIVELY ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES AND BE DIALLED IN WITH APPED, WITH SECURITY, AND ACS. YES, WE'RE LOOKING AT THE DATA. AGAIN, IT IS -- EVEN BEFORE IT WAS ZERO FARES IT WAS DOLLAR. THERE WERE A LOT OF DRIVERS THAT FOR A DOLLAR WEREN'T GOING TO ESCALATE TO GET THE FARES. >>COUN. LEWIS: THE DIFFERENCE IS WE KNOW WHO THEY ARE. THE SUGGESTION OVER THE LAST YEAR WAS AT LEAST TO BE ABLE TO KNOW WHO PEOPLE ARE. AT LEAST HAVE A NAME. I THINK THAT WAS PRETTY REASONABLE. IF THE DAA AND THE EVIDENCE THAT'S RIGHT BEFORE US IS NOT ALLOWING US TO AT LEAST CONSIDER THE FACT THAT MAYBE OUR THINKING ON THAT SHOULD CHANGE A LITTLE BIT AS WELL, MAYBE WE SHOULD LOOK AT THIS PILOT PROGRAM. I WOULD EXPECT THAT EVIDENCE, THAT DATA AND EVIDENCE RIGHT BEFORE US WOULD AT THE VERY LEAST BE IN THIS ANALYSIS COMING PRETTY SOON. I HOPE TO SEE IT IN THERE AND A REALLY GOOD, SOLID ANALYSIS, AGAIN FROM THE ATTORNEY GENERAL AND OUR DEPARTMENT, ABOUT HOW THIS PROGRAM IS CONTRIBUTING TO THEFT AND CRIME IN OUR CITY. >> AGAIN, COUNCILOR DAVIS, COUNCILOR LEWIS, I THINK YOU WILL SEE THAT IN THIS ANALYSIS THAT WE DO. WE HAVE A VERY THOROUGH ANALYSIS IN WHICH WE'RE LOOKING AT MULTIPLE AGENCIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND THE THINGS THEY'RE FACED WITH AS WELL. YOU WILL SEE THAT IN THIS REPORT. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR LEWIS. I CAN TELL YOU THAT I WAS JUST IN L.A. THIS WEEKEND, AND HAD TO CATCH A BUS FROM POINT A TO POINT B. THERE WERE TWO DIFFERENT BUSES THAT CAME BY ME. ONE WAS CITY BUS AND ONE WAS THE BUS I NEEDED TO GET ON. I GOT IN THERE AND LOOKED AT IT. IT WAS SO CLEAN. AND IT DIDN'T SMELL. THERE WERE PEOPLE RIDING THE BUSES AS INTENDED. THERE WAS NO SECURITY GUARD. IT WAS A BREATH OF FRESH AIR. I WISH OUR BUS SYSTEM LOOKED LIKE THAT BUS SYSTEM. THAT WAS A BIG CITY. THAT WAS MY OBSERVATION. THANK YOU. COUNCILOR BENTON. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU, MADAM VICE-PRESIDENT. I'D LIKE TO HEAR WHAT YOU WERE ABOUT TO SAY BEFORE YOU WERE RUDELY INTERRUPTED. WITH REGARD TO NEIGHBORING CITIES AND WHAT THEY'RE EXPERIENING AND WHAT'S GOING ON NATION WIDE. I THINK WE HAVE A PROFESSIONAL TRANSIT MANAGER IN FRONT OF US THAT DOESN'T NEED TO BE CUTOFF IN THAT MANNER. I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR, MADAM VICE-PRESIDENT, WHAT SHE WAS ABOUT TO SAY ABOUT THE LAY OF THE LAND, NATIONALLY. THIS IS NOT JUST HERE. YOU CAN GO AND FIND A CLEAN US IN VARIOUS BUSES AT VARIOUS TIMES. WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT IS HOW WE OPERATE SYSTEMS AND THE SOCIETAL CHALLENGES OF OPERATING THE SYSTEMS. YOU WERE ABOUT TO SAY SOMETHING AND I'D LIKE TO HEAR IT. >> THANK YOU, COUNCILOR DAVIS, COUNCILOR BENTON, I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. LIKE I SAID, IT IS AN ISSUE. IT'S NOT JUST ALBUQUERQUE THAT'S BEING FACED WITH THAT. IT IS NOT ONLY JUST A NATIONAL ISSUE AND IN THE U.S. WE'RE FINDING THAT ACROSS THE COUNTRY FROM WHAT WE'RE HAEGING FROM THE CONSULTANTS WE HAVE DISCUSSING THIS. AND IT'S NOT THE FARE. ALL THE AGENCIES ARE SEEING THESE ISSUES WHEN IT COMES TO SECURITY AND SAFETY. YOU'RE SEEING AGENCIES RAMP UP AND SPEND LOT OF MONEY ON SECURITY AND SAFETY. WE'RE DOING THAT AS WELL. WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE MANEUVERS WITH THE POSITIONS MOVING TO APD. WITH SOME OF THE STUFF WE'RE DOING WITH SECURITY PLANNING AND PASSENGER REMOVAL PROCESS. AND WE'RE CONTINUING TO EVOLVE. AND IT'S JUST CHALLENING RIGHT NOW. WE'RE NOT THE ONLY CITY THAT IS EXPERIENING DRIVER SHORTAGES. I BELIEVE THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING I STARTED LOOKING THROUGH A LOT OF THE ARTICLES COMING OUT SINCE APRIL ABOUT TRANSIT SYSTEMS CONTINUING TO REDUCE SERVICE BECAUSE THEY'RE HAVING ISSUES WITH RECRUITING AND MAINTAINING DRIVERS. AND MECHANICS TOO. FOR THE FIRST TIME LAST WEEK I SAW THAT IN THE NEWS ARTICLE. IT'S SOME OF THE MAJOR TRANSIT AGENCIES OUT THERE. SO, AGAIN, IT IS A SOCIETAL ISSUE. I DON'T THINK ZERO FARES IS ENTIRELY TO BLAME. I BELIEVE IT DOES PUT A LEVEL OF DIFFICULTY OUT THERE. WE'RE SEEING THE SAME ISSUES IN MANY AGENCIES ALSO CHARGING A FARE. >>COUN. BENTON: AND YOU KNOW WITH REGARD TO MAINTENANCE, WITH REGARD TO ALL OF THAT, HOW SHORT-HANDED ARE WE? IN TERMS OF JUST MAINTAINING BUSES ON A DAILY BASIS? >> THANK YOU, COUNCILOR DAVIS, COUNCILOR BENTON, THE DEPARTMENT AS A WHOLE IS 36% VACANCY RATE. SUN VAN CHAUFFEURS ARE AROUND 36%. WE'RE HAVING ISSUES BRINGING THEM ON. A LOT OF THE DRIVERS THAT LEFT SPECIFIED THE HOURS. THAT'S DIFFICULT TO MANAGE WITH FAMILY AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. ON THE MAINTENANCE SIDE IT'S EVEN WORSE AS FAR AS VACANCY RATES. IN SOME AREAS, VEHICLE SERVICES, LIKE I MENTIONED IN THE LAST MEETING WE'RE AT 70%. THAT'S WHY WE'VE DONE SOME OF THESE THINGS WITH DETAILORS AND CONTRACTORS AND TRY TO HELP TO MAKE THE BUSES CLEANER AND PUT ON DAILY REFRESHERS WE HAVE. I CAN'T AGREE WITH YOU MORE. IT'S EXTREMELY IMPORTANT WE HAVE A SAFE, SECURE, REIABLE AND CLEAN TRANSIT SYSTEM SO PEOPLE CAN USE IT. >>COUN. BENTON: MADAM CHAIR, WITH REGARD TO THAT, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT IS A SENSITIVE MATTER. I'M A SUPPORTER OF THE UNION LABOR IN ALBUQUERQUE, I THINK WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE ALL IN THIS TOGETHER AND I SEE MY FRIENDS IN THE AUDIENCE FROM THE LABOR. WE'VE GOT TO HAVE ALL HANDS ON DECK TO HELP US HIRE ACROSS THE BOARD IN THE CITY. THIS IS THE CRISIS IN THE CITY AND IN OTHER CITIES. ALL OVER THE COUNTRY THERE ARE PROBLEMS WITH CITY GOVERNMENT THAT WE CAN THROW STONES AT THIS ONE OR THAT ONE, BUT THEY'RE FUNDAMENTAL ISSUES WITH REGARD TO LOCAL GOVERNMENTS. I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT YOU'RE TRYING. I THINK WE NEED TO TRY OUR -- MY FRIENDS IN LABOR HELP RECRUIT BROTHERS AND SISTERS IN LABOR. FOR THESE DEPARTMENTS BECAUSE WE'RE IN A WORLD OF HURT. IN TERMS OF DELIVERING SERVICES. THANK YOU. I'M SORRY, MADAM CHAIR, NOT TO BOGART THE DISCUSSION, I WAS HOPING TO SPEAK TO CHIEF MEDINA WHEN I FIRST ASKED TO SPEAK. >>COUN. LEWIS: POINT OF ORDER. >>COUN. BENTON: YOU'LL CONFIRM I ASKED DURING HIS TIME ON THE STAND. >>COUN. LEWIS: POINT OF ORDER. SAY A FEW WORDS. >>COUN. GROUT: COUNCILOR LEWIS. >>COUN. LEWIS: THANK YOU. WE CUT PEOPLE OFF AT TWO MINUTES WITH A BUZZER AND WE DON'T CALL IT RUDE. WE HAVE CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME DURING Q&A TO ASK QUESTIONS. ANY OTHER COUNCILOR WANTS TO ASK QUESTION AND FOLLOW UP AS YOU DID, YOU'RE WELCOME TO. I WOULDN'T CALL THAT RUDE, JUST LIKE -- >>COUN. BENTON: >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. >>COUN. BENTON: MAY I -- AS I ASKED FOR PREVIOUSLY WITH THE CHIEF. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. LET'S SEE, COUNCILOR BENTON. >>COUN. BENTON: I HAVE A QUESTION FOR CHIEF MEDINA. GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN. MY QUESTION IS THIS, WITH REGARD TO TRANSIT, AND SECURITY, AND POLICE, WHAT'S TO PREVENT YOU FROM PUTTING A COUPLE OF BIKE COPS ON THE ART BUSES AND ON THE CENTRAL AVENUE BUSES AND ON THE SAN MATEO BUSES AND HIT THE STREET? I'M NOT SAYING ON SOME RIGID SCHEDULE, BUT RATHER TO GET THEM OUT THERE VISIBLE ON OUR TRANSIT SYSTEM AND THEY'RE MOBILE. BECAUSE THEY GOT THEIR BIKES. WHAT'S TO PREVENT US FROM DOING THAT? >> COUNCILOR DAVIS, COUNCILOR BENTON, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. THAT'S ACTUALLY THE DIRECTION WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT GOING AND GETTING MORE OFFICERS. IT COMES DOWN TO RESOURCES. I'VE BEEN IN THIS COUNCIL WHEN THEY ASKED TO INCREASE TRAFFIC TICKETS. AND HOMICIDE CLEARANCE RATES, AT A CERTAIN POINT OF TIME I RUN OUT OF OFFICERS. I UNDERSTAND THIS IS THE SOCIETAL PROBLEM, AND I MENTION THE FACT WE'RE GOING TO RELY ON ACS AND THE FACT THAT XHOOEZ SOME OF THESE NEED RESOURCES. >>COUN. BENTON: IF I MAY, WE DON'T NEED TO BELABOR IT. IT WAS A SIMPLE QUESTION WITH REGARD TO UTLUSITION OF BIKE OFFICERS ON ART. AND ALBUQUERQUE RIDE. >> AS RESOURCES ALLOW WE'LL LOOK AT THAT IN THE FUTURE. >>COUN. BENTON: I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT IN THE NEAR FUTURE BECAUSE IT'S SUPER-EFFECTIVE. I WOULD LIKE TO RECEIVE A BRIEFING ON WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE IF YOU DO IT. THANK YOU. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU, MADAM VICE-PRESIDENT. I HAD A QUESTION FOR TRANSIT DIRECTOR PLEASE. I WAS ON THE SAME PATH. SORRY TO MAKE YOU GO BACK AND FORTH FROM YOUR CHAIR. I KNOW WE HAVE ISSUES WITH CRIME ON THE BUS. MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS WHAT IT'S ALWAYS BEEN. AND MY CONCERN IS FOR THE SAFETY OF THE BUS DRIVERS. THE SAFETY OF THE CITIZENS RIDING THE BUS. AND MAKING SURE THAT THE SAFETY OF THE SECURITY OFFICERS ARE LOOKED AT. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THESE ANALYSIS, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE SAFETY ISSUES IN PLACE FOR THE BUS DRIVERS. BECAUSE THESE BUS DRIVERS ARE PROBABLY EXPOSED TO FENTANYL EVERY SINGLE DAY OF THE WEEK. AND WHERE WANT TO MAKE SURE THE BUS DRIVERS ARE NOT IN A SITUATION WHERE THEY'RE WORRIED ABOUT REPORTING THESE KINDS OF ISSUES AND IF THAT MEANS THAT TAKES THAT BUS OFFLINE TO BE MITIGATED WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE DO THAT. I KNOW FOR A FACT I HAVE PICTURES OF INDIVIDUALS USING FENTANYL IN THE BUS. AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEIR SAFETY IS TAKEN CARE OF. THE SAFETY OF THE SECURITY OFFICERS AND ALSO THE CITIZENS THAT RIDE THE BUS. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IF THERE IS SOME SORT OF FENTANYL EXPOSURE THAT WE MAKE SURE THAT THE BUS IS RENDERED SAFE. WE ALSO HAVE ANOTHER ISSUE, IF THAT BUS HAS AN EXPOSURE OF FENTANYL, THEN THAT BUS IS GOING TO BE TAKEN OFFLINE AND WE ALSO NEED TO MAKE SURE WE TAKE CARE OF THE INDIVIDUALS AT THE MAIN OFFICE WHO ARE HANDLING THAT MITIGATION. WE MIGHT NEED TO HAVE SOMEBODY SHOW UP TO THE BUS DRESSED IN A BUNNY SUIT, TAKE IT ALL THE WAY BACK AND HAVE SOMEBODY MITIGATE THAT BUS IN A BUNNY SUIT. THOSE ARE VERY, VERY BIG CONCERNS. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THESE INDIVIDUALS ARE VERY, VERY WELL-PROTECTED. IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE ISSUES TRYING TO HIRE FOLKS. WE KNOW THE PAY ISN'T THE BEST FOR THESE FOLKS. I KNOW WE'RE WORKING ON THAT AS A COUNCIL AND AS THE ADMINISTRATION, WHAT WE NEED TO DO MORE THAN ANYTHING IS PROTECT THEM. I WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU ARE DOING SOMETHING TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL THESE THINGS THAT AND JUST TALKED ABOUT ARE GOING TO BE ADDRESSED WITHOUT ANY ADVERSE REACTIONS FROM THE ADMINISTRATION. THAT THE RANK AND FILE WORKER CAN ACTUALLY REPORT IT AND NOT HAVE ANY ISSUES GOING FORWARD. >> COUNCILOR DAVIS, COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, I BELIEVE WE DISCUSSED THIS LAST WEEK AND MY ANSWER HAS NOT CHANGE. I ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO REPORT ANY ISSUES YOU MENTIONED THAT AFFECT SAFETY AND SECURITY OF THE DRIVER AND ANY PASSENGERS ON THE BUS. THERE'S IT WILL BE ENCOURAGED. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE SOME SORT OF POLICY IN PLACE. THAT ACTUALLY ADDRESSES IT. I MEAN, IF YOU CAN LET ME KNOW. -- ANOTHER THING THAT CAME UP, IS THERE ANY WAY WE CAN ACTUALLY DO SOME SORT OF REFERRAL PROGRAM? LET'S SAY FOR EXAMPLE A BUS DRIVER KNOWS A FRIEND OR FAMILY MEMBER THAT WANTS TO ACTUALLY WORK, DO WE HAVE SOMETHING IN PLACE TO MAKE SURE THAT PERSON GETS SOME SORT OF A REFERRAL FINDER FEE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT? BRING SOMEBODY ELSE ON. >> COUNCILOR DAVIS, COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, WE DO HAVE AN EMPLOYEE REFERRAL PROGRAM. WE HAVE PUSHED OUT TO OUR EMPLOYEES AND CONTINUE TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE IS AWARE OF THAT REFERRAL PROGRAM AND MAKE SURE THEY REPORT WHEN THEY REFER SOMEONE TO GET THE BENEFITS FROM THAT. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: PERFECT. THAT ACTUALLY HELPS. THANK YOU. >>COUN. GROUT: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR TRANSIT DIRECTOR? THANK YOU. COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. I'M GOING TO MAKE THE CHIEF COME BACK. I'M SORRY FOR THE MUSICAL CHAIRS. HE WAS READY. I WASN'T GOING TO TALK ABOUT THIS, I FEEL THE NEED TO. OPERATION STICKY FINGERS WAS IN DISTRICT SEVEN. I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH A LOT OF RETAILERS AND UPTOWN FOR QUITE SOME TIME. THEY'RE EXPERIENING REALLY HIGH VOLUMES OF SHOPLIFTING. I THINK WE ALL KNOW THAT. IT'S A MAJOR CONCERN. WE HAVE ONE BOUTIQUE WHO HAS BEEN BROKEN INTO FOUR TIMES AND HE'S -- SHE'S ONLY BEEN OPEN FOR A COUPLE WEEK. WE DO HAVE A SERIOUS PROBLEM IN PUP TOWN. I WAS THANKFUL THAT APD DID OPERATION STICKY FINGERS AND TRIED TO AFFECT THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE STEALING FROM THE RETAILERS IN DISTRICT SEVEN. I WAS DISAPPOINTED THAT THE FOCUS WAS TAKEN OFF OF THAT BECAUSE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THE RETAILERS HAVE BEEN ASKING FOR AND WE FINALLY GOT IT AND IT WORKED REALLY WELL AND WE HAVE A LOT MOEFR PEOPLE OFF THE STREETS THAT WERE CAUSING PROBLEMS IN OUR AREA. CHIEF, COULD YOU GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF INFORMATION ABOUT HOW MANY FOLKS WERE INVOLVED IN THE STING, HOW MANY PEOPLE WERE ARRESTED, THE ACTUAL DATA FROM THE OPERATION THAT WAS MEANT TO AND DID HELP UPTOWN? >> COUNCILOR DAVIS, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, I MAY BE OFF ON NUMBERS A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE I GOT NOTIFIED ABOUT THIS TEN MINUTES BEFORE FIVE. WE HAD 30 INDIVIDUALS ARRESTED. THE VAST MAJORITY OF THEM TO BE TRUTHFUL HAVE ALREADY BEEN RELEASED. WE KNOW THAT'S THE BIGGEST ISSUE WE'VE FACED. WE HAVE A REVOLVING DOOR IN THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM. I WISH MDC HAS ENOUGH ROOM TO HOUSE EVERYBODY. THE TRUTH IS THEY DON'T. WE TALKED ABOUT THIS, THE MAYOR HAS AN INITIATIVE. AND THAT'S ENOUGH RESOURCES TO GET PEOPLE WITH UNDERLYING CAUSE OF CRIME. I HATE TO GET INVOLVED IN ALL OF THE DUGS. IT'S NOT DISCUSSION. WE HAVE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE COMMITTING CRIMES FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS. A LOT OF TIMES IT GOES BACK TO SUBSTANCE ABUSE AND WE NEED TO HAVE THE SYSTEMS TO GET THEM TO THE HELP THEY NEED. THE VAST MAJORITY ARE RELEASED. ONE OF THE THINGS WE LOOKED IT IS MOVING THE SHIELD UNIT TO THE D.A.'S OFFICE. IT'S PAID DIVIDENDS FOR US. LAST FRIDAY I GOT GREAT NEWS FROM THE COMMANDER AND THE FACT THAT THE INDIVIDUALS FROM THE PREVIOUS DATE WE WERE SECKING DETENTION IN THE 50% ARRESTS. WHICH IS HUGE. THE D.A.'S OFFICE ASKED FOR DETENTION FOR 12% ELIGIBLE. WE'RE HOPING TO PUT MORE DETENTION CASES TOGETHER. I'M TELLING YOU AT A CERTAIN POINTS THE COURTS ARE GOING TO RUN OUT OF RESOURCES FOR THE DETENTION HEARING. THE D.A. WILL RUN OUT OF D.A.'S TO PROSECUTE AND THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE BEDS TO TAKE INDIVIDUALS WHO NEED SUBSTANCE ABUSE TO. WE NEED TO WORK TOGETHER AND FIND SOLUTIONS AND MOVE UNDERLYING ISSUES GOING FORWARD AND FIND WHAT WE NEED TO CONCLUDE IT. WE DO INTEND TO CONTINUE THE OPERATIONS. SOME DAYS WE HAVE 12 PEOPLE, SOME DAYS WE HAVE 20 PEOPLE DEPENDING ON THE RESOURCES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. THANK YOU, CHIEF. THANK YOU FROM DISTRICT SEVEN FOR DOING THIS. WE HAVE AN ISSUE. I THINK ALL THE RETAILERS WERE HAPPY TO HAVE VERY OBVIOUS APD PRESENCE IN THE LAST COUPLE WEEKS. IT SEEMS TO HAVE HELPED. WE'RE IN CONVERSATIONS GETTING AN ACS TEAM INTO THE AREA AND WORKING WITH APD ON FUTURE STINGS. I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR THAT AND ALSO LET FOLKS KNOW THERE'S A PLAN FOR UPTOWN AREA AND IT'S PROBABLY -- IF YOU'RE ONE OF THE BAD FOLKS OUT THERE, YOU SHOULD BE KNOWING THAT APD, ACS, THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE IS LOOKING AT THAT AREA. THANK YOU, CHIEF. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU, BOTH. COUNCILOR PEÑA. >>COUN. PEÑA: I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS FOR THE CHIEF ORJUST DO COMMENTARY. JUST TO SAY THAT, JUST HEARING ALL THE CONVERSATION THIS AFTERNOON, I THINK THIS IS WHAT INITIALLY HAD TRIGGERED THE CONVERSATION WITH COUNCILOR LEWIS AND I THINK IT SEEMS IT'S THE WILL OF THE COUNCIL WE SUPPORT FREE FARES. THAT WAS THE COMPROMISE. I THINK THE POINT COUNCILOR LEWIS WAS MAKING IS THAT WE ARE HEARING FROM DIFFERENT PEOPLE WHETHER IT BE BUS RIDERS, WHETHER IT BE TRANSIT DRIVERS, WHETHER IT BE APD, WHETHER IT WAS FROM THE TRANSIT DIRECTOR AND THAT GROUP OF PEOPLE, SAYING THEY'RE CONCERNED ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY ON THE BUS AND CRIME ON THE BUS. AND COUNCILOR LEWIS PUT FORTH A RESOLUTION AND THE FRUSTRATION I SEE THAT WE REALLY DIDN'T DO MUCH, AND I KNOW WE HAVE THE ANALYSIS THAT'S COMING OUT, I LOOK FORWARD TO THAT BECAUSE WHETHER WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS IS HAPPENING IN THE NATION WE'RE ACROSS THE COUNTRY OR WHEREVER IT'S HAPPENING, THIS IS ALBUQUERQUE, NEW MEXICO. AND WE CAN GET A HANDLE ON THIS IF WE WORK TOGETHER. I JUST GOT A CALL FROM THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AND THEY'RE SAYING THEY'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THE FREE FARES BECAUSE OF THE FACT THEY'RE USING THEM AS A GET AWAY. YOU TALK ABOUT A THIRD OF THE PEOPLE USING THE BUS TO ACTUALLY COMMIT A CRIME. A THIRD OF THE PEOPLE ON THE BUS, THAT'S PRETTY SCARY. I JUST REALLY WANT US TO WORK TOGETHER. OBVIOUSLY, FREE FARES IS SOMETHING THE WILL OF THE COUNCIL SUPPORTS BUT GET TOGETHER TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WE NEED TO DO. THIS IS FROM THE ADMINISTRATION'S PART TOO, I KNOW SOME PEOPLE STEPPED BACK FROM THEIR POSITIONS BECAUSE THE ADMINISTRATION IS SUPPORTIVE OF FREE FARES AND NOT REALLY WANTING TO DO THE PASSES. WE REALLY HAVE TO COME TOGETHER AND I KNOW THAT PEOPLE THAT ARE COMMITTING THE CRIMES, LOT OF THEM ARE REAL SMALL CRIMES AND GETTING ON THE BUS BUT THEY'RE FEEDING AN ADDICTION. AS WE LOOK AT THE EPIDEMIC WE HAVE IN TERMS OF THE ADDICTION, WHETHER WE CATCH THEM NOW, YOU'RE GOING TO BE CATCHING THEM LATER BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T ADDRESSED THE ROOT CAUSES. I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I APPRECIATE EVERYONE'S COMMENTS. WE'RE ALBUQUERQUE, I THINK WE CAN GET TOGETHER AND THERE'S ENOUGH PEOPLE AROUND THAT WE CAN REALLY DO WHAT WE HE TO DO. WHETHER THAT IS A PASS SYSTEM OR WHETHER IT IS HAVING PEOPLE RIDE THE BUS THAT THE POLICE OFFICERS ON THE BUS. WE NEED TO PROTECT OUR DRIVERS AND AS COUNCILOR SANCHEZ WAS SAYING, PEOPLE USING FENTANYL ON THE BUS, THAT'S REAL. AND I KNOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT AND LISTENING, BUT THESE DRIVERS ARE THE ONES THAT ARE EXPOSED TO IT. WE REALLY CAN'T JUST CONTINUE TO IGNORE THAT. THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO GIVE COMMENTARY. >>COUN. GROUT: COUNCILOR BENTON. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU, MADAM VICE-PRESIDENT. I HAVE A QUESTION FOR MR. RAEL. WHAT IS THE STATUS AND PLEASE PROVIDE AN UPDATE AS TO WHEN THE NEW MEXICO MEDIA ACADEMY LEASE FOR THE RAIL YARDS WILL BE SUBMITTED TO THE CITY COUNCIL? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR BENTON, FIRST AND FOREMOST, I INDICATED TO YOU LAST WEEK I GET IT TO YOU THIS WEEKEND, UNFORTUNATELY, I DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO VISIT WITH YOU. LET ME INDICATE TO YOU THAT THE PRELIMINARY VIEW BY THE CITY ATTORNEY WHEN WE PUT TOGETHER THIS MEMORANDUM OF AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY, STATE, AND CNM, THREE PUBLIC INSTITUTIONS, IT REALLY DIDN'T NEED TO COME FOR APPROVAL IN THAT IT WAS AN MOU. HOWEVER AFTER COME CONVERSATION, IT BECAME CLEAR TO ME THAT IF FOR NO OTHER REASON IT SHOULD COME TO THE COUNCIL AS IT RELATES TO THE LENGTH OF THE AGREEMENT AND THE FACT IT'S USING A CITY FACILITY. I WILL ENDEAVOR TO TRY TO GET THAT TO THE COUNCIL AT THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING. IT IS AN AGREEMENT THAT IS FUNDED BY PRIMARILY BY THE STATE AND CNM. TO REPURPOSE THE BOILER SHOP AT THE RAIL YARDS. IT'S A PROJECT THAT I THINK WILL WILL BE A TRANSFORMATIVE PROJECT FOR THE PARTICULAR AREA OF THE CITY. WE'LL GET THAT TO YOU BY THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING. >>COUN. BENTON: I APPRECIATE THAT. I APPRECIATE THE STATEMENT. AND CNM AND EVERYONE INVOLVED AND YOURSELF WHO PUT THIS TOGETHER. YOU KNOW, A LOT OF TALK ABOUT ADMINISTRATION AND COUNCIL AND WHO DESERVES AN ANSWER TO WHAT WHEN, AND YOU KNOW, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE KNOW WAS ALREADY IN THE STANDARD. IT INVOLVES A LEASE. AND IT INVOLVES CITY PROPERTY. THAT'S THE END OF IT. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. THANK YOU, BOTH. COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU, MADAM VICE-PRESIDENT. I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH DIRECTOR. THANK YOU, DIRECTOR. I APPRECIATE YOUR CALL TODAY. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE'RE DOING, AND JUST TO STATE IT IN PUBLIC, IS THAT THERE WAS EXPOSURES OVER AT THE GATEWAY CENTER IN REFERENCE TO THE ASBESTOS. I APPRECIATE THAT YOU CONTACTED ME. YOU CONTACTED MY OFFICE. WHAT I WANT TO MAKE SURE IS EVERYBODY, THE PUBLIC, IS UNDERSTANDING THAT WE HAVE WORKERS. THE PUBLIC UNDERSTANDS THERE WAS MORE THAN JUST A FEW OF US EXPOSED. CAN YOU GO INTO DETAIL THAT YOU WENT INTO WITH ME IN REFERENCE TO THE CONVERSATION AS TO WHAT'S TAKING PLACE IN REFERENCE TO TH EXPOSURE AND HOW YOU'RE DEALING WITH IT AND HANDLING IT? >> YEAH, MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, THE ISSUE AT HAND IS THE DEMOLITION HAPPENED IN MAY OF 25 OF 2022. ROUGHLY ABOUT A YEAR AGO. THAT'S THE FOCUS OF THE WORKERS THAT WERE WORKING AT THAT TIME DURING THE DEMOLITION. WE FEEL THAT THE EXPOSURE RATES, IF ANYBODY GOT EXPOSED TO ANY TYPE OF ASBESTOS WOULD HAVE BEEN DURING THE DEMOLITION. THE FIRST TWO THAT HAPPENED AFTER THE DEMOLITION WAS AROUND JUNE 2nd. AT THAT POINT, BASED ON OUR UNDERSTANDING, AND BASED ON THE INVESTIGATION, WE FEEL AT THAT POINT THE EXPOSURE WAS NEGLIGIBLE, IFQUY -- ANY AT ALL. AND IT GOT LESS AND LESS. WE'RE TRYING TO CONTACT THE PEOPLE THAT WORKED DURING THOSE TIMES AND HAVING TO MAKE SURE THEY UNDERSTAND THERE WAS A POTENTIAL EXPOSURE AND EXPLAIN WHAT THAT REALLY MEANS. WE'RE AT THAT PHASE OF GATHERING THE NAMES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU, MR. DIRECTOR. ALSO WITH THAT, WE HAVE A LOT OF CONTRACTORS, INDIVIDUALS IN AND OUT OF THERE. YOU'RE WORKING WITH THOSE FOLKS AS WELL, CORRECT? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR SANCHEZ CORRECT. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: AND CURRENTLY IN THAT BUILDING, YOU'VE MITIGATED ALL OF THE EXPOSURE AT THIS POINT? >> WE'VE MITIGATED, MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, THEY'VE MITIGATED THE AREA THEY'RE CURRENTLY WORKING IN. YES, THAT'S CORRECT. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: OKAY. AND IS THERE OTHER AREAS THAT YOU WILL BE TOUCHING WITHIN THIS FACILITY THAT MAY HAVE EXPOSURE THAT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE ADDRESS PRIOR TO THE DEMOLITION? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR SANCHEZ YES. GENERAL SERVICE DEPARTMENT IS QUITE AWARE THAT ANY DEMOLITION IN THAT BUILDING THEY HAVE TO NOTIFY US AND DO THE PROPER INSPECTION AND WE'LL DOTHE FOLLOW UP AFTER. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: JUST ONE MORE THING. YOU ALSO INDICATED THAT THERE WAS GOING TO BE A VIOLATION BY THE CITY. CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT AS WELL? >> YES, I GOT A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THE FINAL DRAFT OF THE INVESTIGATION REPORT FROM OUR DEPARTMENT. FROM OUR ASBESTOS PROGRAM. AND MOST LIKELY THERE WILL BE A COUPLE VIOLATIONS ISSUED TOWARD THE END OF THE WEEK. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: OKAY. CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO THE CITIZENS AND THE COUNCIL HOW THAT WORKS IN REFERENCE TO A VIOLATION THAT YOU ADDRESSED IN YOUR HOUSE, SO TO SPEAK, AND HAVE TO PASS THE VIOLATION TO THE CITY BECAUSE THE CITY MADE THE VIOLATION? CAN YOU EXPLAIN HOW THAT ALL WORKS? SO THE GENERAL PUBLIC AND THE COUNCILORS CAN UNDERSTAND THE DYNAMICS. >> CORRECT. THE ASBESTOS PROGRAM, THE PRIMARY THING IS NOTIFICATION OF ANY COMMERCIAL DEMOLITION. AND THE AREA WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, THAT WASN'T DONE. THAT WOULD POTENTIALLY BE ONE VIOLATION. AFTER THE CONTRACTOR IS REQUIRED TO DO AN INSPECTION FOR ASBESTOS AND NOTIFY US ABOUT THE RESULTS. THAT ALSO WAS NOT DONE BASED ON THE FINAL DRAFT OF THE INVESTIGATION REPORT. THAT WOULD BE A SECOND VIOLATION. THE WAY IT IS IT'S GOING TO GO UNDER LEGAL REVIEW PRIOR TO ISHANCE. AND THEY'LL DETERMINE WHO THE PARTY THE THE VIOLATION WILL GO TO. THE REGGINGILATION SAYS IT GOES TO OPERATOR, OWNER, OR CONTRACTOR. IT DEPENDS ON HOW THINGS ARE SET UP. IT CAN GO TO ALL THREE OR ONE. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU. I MIGHT HAVE MORE QUESTIONS LATER ON AS THIS PROGRESSES. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. I JUST HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS. I'M SORRY I DIDN'T GET THOSE TO YOU EARLIER. MR. RAEL, WE'VE SEEN THE NEWS REPORTS THAT A LARGE NUMBER OF MIGRANTS HAVE ACROSSED AT EL PASO. HAS THE CITY MADE ANY PREPARATIONS TO RECEIVE THESE PEOPLE AND OFFER SERVICES? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, I'LL ASK MS. MELENDREZ TO SAY A FEW WORDS ABOUT THE COORDINATION EFFORT ON THIS MATTER. >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCILOR GROUT COUNCILORS. YES, THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE HAS CONTINUED TO RECEIVE MIGRANTS ALL ALONG SINCE 2019. AND EXPECTED THE VOLUME TO INCREASE AFTER THE END OF TITLE 42. THE VOLUME OVER THE WEEKEND REALLY WAS NOT VERY MUCH HIGHER THAN IT HAS BEEN. OVER THE WEEKEND AND FRIDAY WE RECEIVED ABOUT 40 PEOPLE. AND TODAY WE RECEIVED 35. AND THESE ARE PEOPLE WHO WERE TICKETED. BY THAT, I MEAN THEY HAVE PLANE TICKETED. AND THEY HAVE BEEN PAROLED BY THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT WITH AUTHORIATION TO TRAVEL TO MEET UP WITH THEIR SPONSORS. USUALLY ELSEWHERE IN THE COUNTRY WHERE THERE'S IMMIGRATION COURT. AND THESE INDIVIDUALS HAVE BEEN DROPPED OFF AT THE SUNPORT AND THEY'RE HELPED BY A GROUP OF NON-PROFITS. HELP THEM GET TO THEIR GATES AND PASS THROUGH TSA AND GET SOME SNACKS AND IF THERE'S A NEED THAT FALLS THROUGH, WE PUT THEM IN THE HOTEL OVERNIGHT AND GIVE THEM A MEAL SO THEY CAN GET THEIR FLIGHT THE FOLLOWING DAY. THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE PREPARED. IF THE VOLUME INCREASES UNEXPECTEDLY, WE HAVE PLANS WITH THE EMERGENCY OPERATION CENTER TO SCALE THAT TO ANY LEVEL THAT BECOMES NECESSARY. RIGHT NOW, IT'S VERY MANAGEABLE WITH THE NON-PROFIT WE HAVE IN PLACE. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. WHAT IS THE NON-PROFIT? >> IT'S CALLED UNITED VOICES FOR NEWCOMER RIGHTS. THAT'S ONE OF THEM. THERE ARE OTHER VOLUNTEER ORGANIZATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN HELPING MIGRANTS ALL ALONG IN A VOLUNTEER CAPACITY. ONE OF THEM CALLS THEMSELVES ASYLUM SEEKER WELCOME. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU FOR THE INFORMATION. I APPRECIATE IT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COUNCILORS? ALL RIGHT, LET'S MOVE TO THE JOURNAL. I MOVE APPROVAL OF THE MAY 1 JOURNAL. IS THERE A SECOND? WE HAVE A FIRST AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR RAISE YOUR HAND AND SAY YES. THAT PASSES. COUNCILOR DAVIS. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU. MADAM CHAIR, THANK YOU SO MUCH. WELL DONE AS ALWAYS. WE HAVE LOT OF THINGS TO COVER TONIGHT. WE HAVE A FULL HOUSE. WE'RE GOING TO SEE HOW QUICKLY WE CAN MOVE THROUGH THOSE. BEFORE I DO, WE NEED TO ADDRESS DECORUM. SIR, YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED SEVERAL TIMES. YOU KNOW THE RULES. YOU HAVE TO SIT DOWN IF YOU'RE GOING TO BE HERE. AND YOU NEED TO FOLLOW THE DIRECTION OF THE POLICE OFFICERS. YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW THE DIRECTION OF THE POLICE OFFICERS. CONSIDER THOSE DIRECTIONS FROM ME. YOU'RE ON TWO WARNINGS. IF YOU HAVE A THIRD YOU'LL BE REMOVED FROM THIS MEETING. SIR, YOU'RE RULES ARE IF YOU HAVE YOUR CAMERA YOU HAVE TO BE SEATED AND THE CAMERA HAS TO BE PLACED IN THE MEDIA WELL. YOU MUST BE SEATED. YOU MAY NOT STAND THERE. I'M NOT GOING TO ARGUE WITH YOU. SIR YES. BECAUSE WE HAVE RULES FOR PERSONS WITH CAMERAS. I'M NOT GOING TO HAVE A DEBATE. YOU MAY SIT OR REMOVE YOURSELF FROM THE MEETING. PLEASE HAVE A SEAT. HAVE A SEAT. THANK YOU, COUNCILORS. WE'LL MOVE TO THE REMAINDER OF THE MEETING. ANY CHANGES TO THE LETTER OF INTRODUCTION? SIR, I'M GOING TO ASK THE OFFICERS AND SECURITY OFFICERS TO ENFORCE OUR RULES AND ASK YOU TO BE REMOVED FROM THE MEETING. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU TO THE SECURITY OFFICERS AND OFFICERS FOR WORKING WITH US. COUNCILORS, WE'RE BACK TO THE AGENDA. ANY CHANGES TO THE LETTER OF INTRODUCTION? I MOVE THE RULES BE SUSPENDED FOR PLACING EC289 FOR ACTION. IT'S THE MAYORS APPOINTMENT TO THE JOINT AIR QUALITY BOARD. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. WE NEED A VOTE FOR THE RULES SUSPENSION THAT REQUIRES TWO-THIRDS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND UNTIL THE CLERK COUNTED THE VOTE. THAT'S UNANIMOUS. HARD TO SEE ON THE SIDE. COUNCILOR LEWIS. >>COUN. LEWIS: I MOVE IT THE RULES BE SUSPENDED FOR PLACING R-138. ESTABLISHING THE CITY COUNCIL PRESIDENT DESIGNEE AS THE CITY REPRESENTATIVE ON THE ALBUQUERQUE REGIONAL ECONOMIC ALLIANCE BOARD OF DIRECTORS. >>COUN. DAVIS: SEVERAL SECONDS. COUNCILOR BENTON. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ANY DISCUSSION? ANY OPPOSED? THAT MATTER CARRIES UNANIMOUS . COUNCILOR GROUT. >>COUN. GROUT: MR. PRESIDENT, I MOVE APPROVAL OF THE LETTER OF INTRODUCTION. >>COUN. DAVIS: MOTION AND SECOND FOR THE LETTER OF INTRODUCTION. RAISE YOUR HAND. REPORTS OF COMMITTEES. COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. THE FINANCE AND GOVERNMENT OPERATIONS COMMITTEE MET ON MONDAY MAY 8 AND REPORTS THE FOLLOWING ITEM. IN THE MATTER OF O-80, R-126, R-127, AND R-129 THAT THEY DO PASS. IN THE MATTER OF O-79, THAT IT DO PASS AS AMENDED. I MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE COMMITTEE REPORT. >>COUN. DAVIS: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR RAISE YOUR HAND AND SAY YES. ANY OPPOSED? THAT CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, IN THE MATTER OF R-122 I WOULD LIKE TO REPORT OUT THAT THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MET ON THURSDAY MAY 11, R-122 IS DO PASS AND SUBSTITUTED AND ACTED UPON. AND R-123 WITHOUT RECOMMENDATION AS SUBSTITUTED AND AMENDED AND BE ACTED ON. I MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE COMMITTEE REPORT. SDMRD . >>COUN. DAVIS: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. THAT MATTER CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. ANY OTHER DEFERRALS OR WITH CRAWL DRAWLS? WE'RE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. ANY CHANGES TO THE CONSENT? SEEING NO CHANGES OR WITHDRAWALS. WE WANT TO THANK EVERYONE APPOINTED TO BOARD OR COMMISSION. WE APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICE AND HOPE THAT YOU ENJOY YOUR SERVICE TO THE CITY. MADAM VICE-PRESIDENT. >>COUN. DAVIS: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. THAT CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. THERE'S AN ALBUQUERQUE BERNALILLO COUNTY GOVERNMENT COMMISSION PLUS APS MEETING ON THURSDAY MAY 25 AT 5 P.M. AT THE BERNALILLO COUNTY BUILDING AT 415 SILVER. THERE'S A HYBRID MEETING SO YOU CAN WATCH ONLINE OR COME IN PERSON. >>COUN. DAVIS: ANY OTHER ANNOUNCEMENTS? WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. HERE'S WHAT I'M THINKING. FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT FOLLOW ALONG. WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE HERE ON A COUPLE OF BILLS. I THINK WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO GET THROUGH PUBLIC COMMENT AND TAKE OUR STANDARD DINNER BREAK. FOR THOSE OF YOU TRYING TO PLAN. MY APOLOGIES TO STAFF WHO MIGHT BE HERE AFTER BREAK. THEN WE'LL GET TO THINGS THAT TAKE TIME. WE WANT TO GIVE THE FOLKS THAT ARE HERE TO TELL US WHAT THEY WANT AND GO TO WHAT THEY NEED TO. AS A REMINDER OUR PUBLIC COMMENT GROUND RULES. EACH PARTICIPANT HAS TWO MINUTES TO PRESENT. YOU NEED NOT USE ALL OF YOUR TIME. ADDRESS CITY COUNCIL THROUGH THE COUNCIL PRESIDENT. ANY DISRUPTIVE COMMENT WILL RESULT IN REMOVAL. THERE'S A TWO-MINUTE TIME LIMIT. YOWL SEE YOU'LL SEE LIGHTS. IF YOU'RE ONLINE YOU'LL HAVE TIMER. AND MR. CORN EELIOUS WILL MANAGE. IF YOU'RE CALLED AND NEXT UP, COME ON DOWN TO MAKE TIME FOR YOU APPROPRIATELY. PLEASE CALL OUR FIRST SPEAKER. >> THANK YOU. OUR FIRST SPEAKER IS MIGUEL FOLLOWED BY MATT. MATT FOLLOWED BY GABRIEL. >>COUN. DAVIS: IF YOU PUT IT RIGHT THERE. -- I WANT TO HOLD YOU RIGHT THERE. WE FINISHED THIS ZONING ISSUE? IS THAT CORRECT? >> MR. PRESIDENT, WE ARE AWARE OF A ZONING ISSUE THAT MAY BE BEING DISCUSSED TODAY AND CAME THROUGH EMAILS INVOLVING MULTI-UNIT APARTMENT COMPLEX WITH PENDING APPLICATION WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT. IT WOULDN'T BE APPROPRIATE TO HEAR PRESENTATIONS ON THAT TONIGHT SINCE IT WILL BE CLOSED RECORD REVIEW IN THE EVENT IT'S REPEALED. WE. >>COUN. DAVIS: I THINK I NEED TO MAKE IT CLEAR. THERE'S A SPECIAL SET OF RULES FOR HOW THE CITY COUNCIL DEEMS WITH ZONING ISSUES. THAT MEANS WE CAN'T DISZ THAT UNTIL IT COMES TO THE ZONING HEARING PROCESS. COUNCILORS ARE NOT ALLOWED TO PARTICIPATE UNTIL IT COMES TO US. IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK ON A ZONING ISSUE THAT RELATES TO A PENDING MATTER,WY WAEGS WE CAN'T DO THAT. DOES IT MENTION ANYTHING ABOUT ZONING RULES? >> NO. IT'S ABOUT TRASH AND TRESPASSERS. >>COUN. DAVIS: LET'S SEE HOW CLOSE WE GET TO THE LINE. >> SURE. STOP ME. GOOD EVENING, COUNCILOR DAVIS, I'M MATTHEW FOR -- I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE ILLEGAL ACTIVITIES OCCURRING NEAR THE SPORTS COMPLEX NEAR 98 STREETH STREET IN THE ESCARPMENT. IF YOU WOIRNT AWARE, THERE'S NUMEROUS SHOOTINGS, DUMPING AND TRESPASSING. A FEW MONTHS AGO, COUNCILOR SANCHEZ INFORMED ME ABOUT THIS PROBLEM. WITH HIS HELP AND THE ASSISTANCE OF APD I'M HAPPY TO REPORT WE INSTALLED NEW BARRIERS AND LOCKS AT THE LOCATION. IT HAS GREATLY REDUCED THE ILLEGAL ACTIVITY IN THE AREA. I LIKE TO THANK COUNCILOR SANCHEZ FOR HIS LEADERSHIP AND APD FOR THE HELP OF ENHANCED ENFORCEMENT IN THE AREA TO DETER THE ACTIVITIES WHILE THERE HAS BEEN A DROP IN THE ILLEGAL ACTIVITY I LIKE TO REPORT THE VIOLATORS ARE VERY AGGRESSIVE. EVERY WEEK THEY CUT ALL OF OUR LOCKS AND CHAINS AND MOVE ALL OF OUR BARRIERS AND TAKE FENCES. I'D LIKE TO TELL THE CITY TO KEEP UP THE VIGILANCE AND ENHANCED ENFORCEMENT IN THE AREA. I I LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THE ILLEGAL DUMPING. THAT'S HAPPENING THROUGHOUT THE CITY. EVERY YEAR WE SPEND HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS TO CLEAN UP TONS OF TRASH ILLEGALLY DUMPED ON THEIR PROPERTY THAT IS NOT THEIR OWN. AND FORCED TO PAY THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS TO THE CITY TO DISPOSE OF OTHER PEOPLE'S TRASH AT CITY LANDFILL. TO HELP VICTIMS OF ILLEGAL DUMPING I SUGGEST CITY COUNCIL PROVIDE VOUCHERS TO THE CITY DUMP FOR FEES TO DUMP OTHER PEOPLE'S TRASH DUMPED ON OUR PROPERTY. PROVIING VOUCHERS WOULD GREATLY HELP THE LANDOWNERS AND HELP WITH THE COST OF CLEANING UP. HOPEFULLY THAT WILL HELP KEEP THE CITY CLEAN. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. THANK YOU FOR COMING UP HERE. WE HAD THIS DISCUSSION. I REALLY LIKE YOUR IDEA. I THINK WE HAVE SOMETHING THERE. DEFINITELY, I'M GOING TO TALK TO SOME OF THE OTHER COUNCILORS AND ALSO TO THE ADMINISTRATION AND SEE IF THERE'S COMING WE -- SOMETHING TO COME UP WITH. I'VE HAD MANY COMPLAINTS WHERE -- I THINK ALL OF US HAVE, WHERE WE MAKE SURE TO CLEAN THE PROPERTY, SEND SOMEBODY OUT THERE AND THE SAME PERSON WHOSE MAKING THIS EFFORT TO CLEAN AND SPENDING HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS TO CLEAN PROPERTY IS GETTING FINED ON TOP OF CLEANING. -- WAY TO CLEAN UP THE TRASH BUT ALSO MAKE SURE THAT YOU DON'T GET THE DOUBLE CHARGE THAT I KNOW YOU'RE RECEIVING. AND I KNOW THERE'S OTHER PEOPLE THAT ARE IN THAT SAME BOAT. I'VE SEEN IT. I'VE SEEN PEOPLE IN APARTMENT COMPLEXES THROW THEIR STUFF OVER THE BACKYARD BECAUSE IT'S JUST THE MESA. BUT THAT MESA IS ACTUALLY SOMEBODY'S PROPERTY. AND THAT SOMEBODY HAS TO EITHER CLEAN IT OR FACE A FINE. AND BOTH OF THOSE THINGS COST MONEY. I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM. I WILL BE DEFINITELY LOOKING INTO THAT. >> APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR HELP. >> GABRIEL FOLLOWED BY DIEGO. >> MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, I'M THE NATIONAL DIRECTOR OF -- AMERICA PROMOING COMMON SENSE VALUES LIKE OPPORTUNITY. I WANT TO SAY HOW SHAMEFUL THAT THE CRIME HAS GOT SEWN BAD IN ALBUQUERQUE. BEFORE COMING HERE I TALKED TO ONE RESIDENT AND THEY SAID THE POLICE DOESN'T HAVE THE MAN POWER TO RESPOND TO CALLS. SHE HAD TO WAIT FOR OVER TWO HOURS SO THE POLICE WOULD SHOW UP. THE POLICE AREN'T THE PROBLEM. THE POLICE OFFICERS I SPOKE TO AND THE CHIEF ARE TRYING TO LOWER THE CRIME RATE. HOW DOES ALBUQUERQUE HAVE ONE OF THE HIGHEST MURDER RATES IN THE COUNTRY? IT'S THREE TIMES THE NATIONAL AVERAGE, IT'S HIGHER THAN L.A. AND SAN FRANCISCO. TO TOP IT OFF, 50% OF HOMICIDE VICTIMS WERE OF HISPANIC ORIGIN. THE PROBLEM IS THAT THE POLICIES OF NEW MEXICO RELEASE REPEAT AND VIOLENT OFFENDERS ON THE STREETS. IN 2019 YOUR JAIL RECORDS SHOWED ON A GIVEN WEEKEND THE POLICE ARRESTED 90 PEOPLE. THE MORJ -- MAJORITY HAD WARRANTS. LAST WEEK, MYSELF AND SEVERAL OTHERS WROTE A LETTER AND FOR EVERYONE OF YOU AND THE MAYOR ASKED YOU TO FIGHT FOR YOUR RESIDENTS. I FELT COMPELLED TO FOLLOW UP. SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE AND YOUR RESIDENTS CAN'T WAY LONGER. JUST TODAY FOUR PEOPLE WERE LEFT DEAD AND TWO WERE SHOT. IT'S ABOUT TIME WE STRENGTHEN PENALTIES FOR REPEAT OFFENDERS. IF YOU DON'T WANT YOUR BUSINESSES TO LEAVE AND SOME OF YOUR MORE PRIVILEGED RESIDENTS, YOU HAVE TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE CRIME RATE BECAUSE YOU'LL LEAVE THE MOST VULNERABLE AND LOW INCOME OF BLACK AND HISPANIC RESIDENTS TO THE CLUTCHES OF CRIME. THANK YOU. >> DIEGO FOLLOWED BY NICKY. NICKY FOLLOWED BY TWILA. TWILA FOLLOWED BY CARLOS. CARLOS FOLLOWED BY SF -- >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. I'M A -- ACTUALLY, WE ARE RECEIVING A LOT OF CASES COMING FROM OUTSIDE -- OUR PROBLEM WITH THAT IS HOUSING. BECAUSE EVERYBODY KNOWS HOUSING DEMAND FOU. FOR EXAMPLE, FAMILY OF FOUR, WE RECEIVE AROUND $4,000. WE SPEND THIS AMOUNT OF MONEY FOR HOUSING. WITHIN THE FIRST MONTH EVEN BEFORE THEY ARRIVE. I'M HERE TO ASK IF WE CAN, THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE, HELP US WITH THIS ISSUE. FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU CAN GIVE US OUR CLIENTS PRIORITY FOR HOUSING BUT -- PUBLIC HOUSING OR SECTION EIGHT. ADDITIONALLY, MAYBE WE CAN ESTABLISH SOMETHING TO HELP US, GIVE US LIKE OR TEN OR WHATEVER HELP PUBLIC HOUSING SO WE CAN GIVE IT OUR CLIENTS WHEN THEY ARRIVE AS A TEMPORARY HOUSE. THANK YOU. >>COUN. DAVIS: IF YOU'RE DOING THAT WORK, I THINK MR. RAEL CAN HELP YOU CONNECT. THERE'S A DIRECTOR THAT HELPS WORK ON IMMIGRANT SERVICES AND THEY CAN HELP YOU WITH THEM TODAY. >> FOLLOWED BY SHARON. SHARON FOLLOWED BY AGUSTIN. >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL MEMBERS, AND AUDIENCE. I'M SHARON, AND I'M A MEMBER OF WOMEN TAKING BACK THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD. I AM A HUNDRED PERCENT FOR A CITY MANAGER. WE NEED CHANGE. I LOOKED UP THE DEFINITION OF A CITY MANAGER, BUDGETING, OVERSEEING STAFF AND CITY PLANNING WITH CITIZENS AND COUNCIL. AND IF WE -- IF THE CITY MANAGER ISN'T DOING HIS JOB HE CAN BE FIRED. WE CAN'T DO THAT WITH THE MAYOR. REASONS WHY WE WANT A CITY MANAGER. THE HOMICIDE RATE IS 106 IN 2020. 115 IN 2022. IT WILL BE HIGHER IN 2023. IN ORDER TO STAY IN BUSINESS, PEOPLE HAVE TO HIRE THEIR OWN SECURITY. YET, MAYOR KELLER AND THIS YEAR'S BUDGET IS RECOMMENDING REDUCED FUNDING FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. DID WE HEAR A WORD FROM CHIEF MEDINA? NO. WE HAVE HAD THE -- WITH CORONADO PARK. IN THE MEANTIME, PEOPLE AND BUSINESSES HAD TO SUFFER AND PUT UP WITH THE CRIME AND DRUGS AND FILTH. I HAVE BEEN TOLD BY A DISPATCHER THAT IF WE TRY TO EVICT PEOPLE FROM OUR PARK WE NEED TO TALK TO THE MAYOR. BECAUSE HE HAS GIVEN THEM ORDERS TO STAND DOWN AND NOT EVICT PEOPLE OF STAYING IN OUR PARK. WE HAVE ALSO SEEN THE EAST GATE HEADLINE. CITY ASBESTOS BLUNDER. I GUESS I'M DONE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> AGUSTIN FOLLOWED BY CHRIS. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, I AM THE -- PRESIDENT. I'M HERE TO KIND OF BRING ATTENTION TO OUR PAY ISSUES. OUR INFLATION IS GOING UP AND 2% PAY RAISE DOESN'T REALLY ALLOW YOU ANY LIBERTY. MORE PARENTALLY THE MORAL HAS DROPPED BECAUSE THERE WAS A PAY EQUITY ISSUE. SOME PEOPLE BENEFITTED WHERE OTHERS WEREN'T. YOU HAVE SCENARIOS WHERE YOU HAVE SUPERVIOR AND THE PERSON YOU SUPERVISE IS MAKING MORE MONEY THAN YOU. A MODEST PAY INCREASE CAN PUT A BAND-AID AND ADDRESS IT AT A LATER POINT. I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. >> CHRIS, FOLLOWED BY TAD. >> HELLO COUNCIL MEN AND WOMEN. PRIVILEGE TO BE WITH YOU. EACH OF YOU HAVE TRIED TO COME ON OUR BUSES. I'M AN MCO ON TRANSIT. I'M A STEWARD WITH 624. THIS IS WHAT'S GOING ON. THANK YOU, COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, YOU IDENTIFIED A LOT OF THE PROBLEMS. COUNCILOR PEÑA, YOU'VE COME ON OUR BUSES, THANK YOU. YOU SAID STRAIGHTFORWARD, THE BUSES NEED TO BE CLEANED. WE'RE ACTUALLY HAVING DRIVERS NOW, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH BUSES THAT ARE ACTUALLY STAYING AND NOT USING VACATION TO DO WHAT YOU'RE ASKING. THAT'S A LEGITIMATE ASK. YOU, COUNCILOR LEWIS, THANK YOU FOR COMING ON THE BUSES AND DRIVING WITH US. RIGHT NOW, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BE COMPETITIVE AND SOMEHOW RETAIN THESE MEN AND WOMEN. IT ALWAYS COMING DOWN TO THE MONEY. I'M GOING TO BE JUST A HAIR OFF THAT. YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR THAT ALL NIGHT. WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS SAFETY AND HEALTH. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, HOW DO WE INFORM HOW DO WE INFORM THE PUBLIC, HOW DO WE GET OUR EMPLOYEES MOTIVATED? AGAIN, IT'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE ABOUT THE PAY. YOU SEE THIS GRAY HAIR, 55% ARE GRAY-HAIRED. I'M SURPRISED YOU'RE NOT DRIVING OUT THERE, BECAUSE WE NEED YOU. I SEE YOU WALKING IN BARELAS. I SEE YOU ON TINGLY PASS AND I WAVE AT YOU. I MISS YOU AT THE OLD CAA GRANDE. ALL OF YOU HAVE A HISTORY. ALL OF YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO THE SOLUTION. I LOVE THE BANTER THAT BOTH OF YOU HAVE. BECAUSE THAT IS SOLUTION-BASED. WE'RE GOING TO MAKE IT THROUGH THIS AND STICK THROUGH THIS. I HEARD THE 44% INCREASE FOR MY DEPARTMENT. THIS NEEDS TO BE THROUGHOUT THE CITY FOR ALL OF BLUE TRANSIT. THANK YOU. >> TAD FOLLOWED BY CASEY. >> THANK YOU. ARE EVERY CORNER LIKE IN CHICAGO -- WELL, THAT'S SOLVE THE CRIME? NO. YESTERDAY, FOUR PEOPLE WERE SHOT ON MY STREET. CENTRAL AND -- WISCONSIN. ONE FATAL. THINK THINGS ARE GETTING ANY BETTER? NO, IT'S NOT. EVERYWHERE CRIMINALS PUT OUT OF BUSINESSES NOT ONLY SMALL BUSINESSES BUT GIG, GIANT WAL-MART ON CENTRAL AND ZUNI. HOW DO YOU LIKE IT TO SEE THAT? ISN'T THAT BIG ENOUGH FOR YOU TO UNDERSTAND THAT WE DO HAVE PROBLEMS RIGHT HERE. SO ANYWAY. LAWYERS, JUDGES, BREGMAN, SAM BREGMAN SUCH COWERED. YES, HE PROTECT CRIMINALS. WELL, NOW, HELPING BUDDY LAWYERS UP THERE. WE HAVE TWO TYPES OF LAWYERS. CRIMINAL DEFENSE LAWYERS AND -- AMBULANCE CHASERS. JUDGES AND LAWYERS MAKING -- ONE METRO JUDGE AND LAWYERS CHANGE ING DATE. SO THEY CAN WIN THE CASE BECAUSE I FILED BEFORE JUDGMENT. THANK YOU. >> CASEY FOLLOWED BY LAURA. >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, I'M THE BLUE COLLAR PRESIDENT FOR THE BLUE COLLAR WORKER. MOTOR COACH OPERATORS AND SUN VAN CHAUFFEURS. WE'RE NOT HERE TO ATTACK THE ADMINISTRATION OR THEIR PRIORITIES. BUT WE'RE HERE TO ASK YOU FOR YOUR HELP. THE 2% IN THE MAYOR'S BUDGET FELL SHORT DRASTICALLY AS FAR AS THE COST OF LIVING AND WHAT THINGS ARE COSTING US. WE HAVE MANY PROBLEMS IN MANY DEPARTMENTS AS FAR AS RETENTION AND BRINGING EMPLOYEES IN THE DOORS. YOU KNOW, ALSO LIKE WAS MENTIONED EARIER WITH THE LAWSUIT THAT PUT THE EMPLOYEES IN A TORNADO LIKE THEY HAVE BEEN THROWN TO THE WAYSIDE NOT KNOWING WHERE THEY FIT IN WITH THEIR JOBS WITH THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE. YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS COMING AT THE END OF THE YEAR IS THE STUDY. I THINK A LOT OF US ARE NOT HOLDING OUR BREATH TOO MUCH, BUT I THINK WE'RE WAITING TO SEE HOW THAT COMES OUT FOR THE EMPLOYEE. WE'RE NO LONGER COMPETITIVE WITH ANY OF THE OTHER PUBLIC EMPLOYEES IN THE STATE OF NEW MEXICO. WE'RE HOPING YOU CAN HELP US BUILD ON THIS 2%. IT MIGHT NOT BE THAT COST OF LIVING, AT THE END OF THE YEAR WE CAN READDRESS THIS WHEN THE STUDY COMES OUT TO GET US BACK TO THE COMPETITIVE PAY. MANY EMPLOYEES HAVE PRIDE IN WHAT THEY DO FOR THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE, WE PROVIDE A SERVICE THAT MAKES LIFE BETTER IN THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE. FROM TRASH TO WATER AND THE FREE BUS SERVICE WE PROVIDE. WE PRAY THAT YOU LOOK AT IT APPROPRIATELY. PUBLIC SAFETY, I UNDERSTAND THAT THE JOB THEY DO, BUT WRNG I THINK WE SHOULD BE LOOKED AT AS MUCH AS THEM WHEN YOU ARE CRAFTING YOUR BUDGET FOR US. [ APPLAUSE ]. >>COUN. DAVIS: WE KNOW WE HAVE A LOT OF MEMBERS, BUT WE HAVE TO FOLLOW THE RULES. THANK YOU FOR FOLLOWING THE RULES. COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, MR. PADILLA MENTIONED THAT THE STUDY WOULD BE DONE AT THE END OF THIS YEAR. IT'S AT THE END OF 2024 OR IS IT THE END OF THIS YEAR? >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR BASSAN, WE ARE FINALIZING THE CONTRACT AND THE STUDY WILL BEGIN IN THE FALL OF THIS YEAR. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, IT WILL BEGIN IN THE FALL BUT WE ANTICIPATE TO TAKE HOW LONG? DO WE HAVE AN ESTIMATE? I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT THE LONG AWAITED STUDY IS GOING TO BE HAPPENING TOWARD THE END OF 2024? >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCILORS, COUNCILOR DAVIS, COUNCILOR BASSAN, WE ARE INITIAING THOSE PHASES. WE SHOULD BE COMPLETED WITH THE STUDY BY NOVEMBER OF THIS YEAR. >>COUN. BASSAN: THAT MADE MY DAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> LAURA FOLLOWED BY STEPHANIE. >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCILOR DAVIS, AND THE ENTIRE CITY COUNCIL. THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME HERE TONIGHT. I'M A RESIDENT OF ALBUQUERQUE. I'M A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER. AND I AM A REALTOR. I UNDERSTAND THE VOTE WILL BE DEFERRED UNTIL THE MEETING NEXT MONTH. I THOUGHT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO STAY HERE TODAY AND LET YOU KNOW I'M IN FULL SUPPORT TO THE CHANGES TO THE IDO. I THINK AS PART OF THE ALBUQUERQUE HOUSING FORWARD PROJECT THAT'S ONE SMALL PIECE THAT WE CAN ADDRESS OUR HOUSING CRISIS IN ALBUQUERQUE. WE HAVE REALTORS THAT HAVE BUYERS READY TO BUY BUT THERE'S NOT FORDABLE HOUSING IN THE CITY. WE HAVE TO ADDRESS THIS NOW. IT WILL ONLY GET WORSE IF WE DO NOT DO THAT. THE OTHER ISSUE I WOULD LIKE TO BRING UP IS I LIVE IN THE ONATE NEIGHBORHOOD. I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE FROM MAY NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION OR COALITION FROM NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS WIN -- HAVE BEEN BEFORE YOU, BUT IF THEY HAVE, THEY'RE NOT SPIKING ON BEHALF OF THE PEOPLE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. NO HAPPEN HAS CONSULTED ME AND I'M POSITIVE I HAVE NEIGHBORS IN FULL SUPPORT OF THE CHANGES. AND I URGE YOU, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I CAN CONNECT YOU TO SHOW YOU HOW THIS WILL HELP THE CITY TO GROW AND THRIVE AND BE A HEALTHY PLACE AND SAFE PLACE FOR ALL RESIDENTS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. STEPHANIE FOLLOWED BY MAYA. >> HI COUNCIL MEMBERS, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY. REAL QUICK BACKGROUND. I AM UNION PRESIDENT FOR LOCAL 2962. MEMBER OF COUNCIL 18. I REPRESENT APD'S PPRB BOARD. I'M DISPATCHER FOR 911 COMMUNICATION. I AM HERE ASKING -- I'VE BEEN WITH HAD CITY FOR 14 YEARS. I'VE SEEN A LOT OF US GOING THROUGH A LOT OF THINGS AND CHANGES. I'VE BEEN GREATLY AFFECTED FROM COVID TO COST OF LIVING TO SHORT STAFFING TO THE PINO LAWSUIT. GROCERIES INCREASED, FUEL INCREASED. OUR HEALTH INSURANCE HAS INCREASED. ALL WE'RE ASKING IS FOR FAIR PAY RAISES TO HELP WITH THIS. STAFFING IS HUGE ISSUE. I BELIEVE I HAVE TWO DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE FULLY STAFFED OUT OF 15 DEPARTMENTS. IF THEY'RE NOT FULLY STAFFED I HAVE EMPLOYEES WORKING OUT OF CLASSIFICATION OR DOING DUTIES NOT DESCRIBED IN THEIR JOB DESCRIPTION. IN 911 ALONE, FRIDAY AND SATURDAY, AND SUNDAY I WAS ASKED TO COME TO COVER FOR STAFF. I HAVE GRAVEYARD FORCED TO COVER SHIFTS. I WORK 16-HOUR DAYS. IF I'M NOT DOING UNION HOURS I'M DOING OVERTIME TO HELP WITH THE STAFFING. THIS IS A NORMALCY WORKING 16-HOUR SHIFTS. I THINK JUST OVERALL WITH THE CITY, I THINK 2% IS NOT ENOUGH. I'VE GOT MY LOWEST PAYING SALARIES IN THREE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS ARE UNDER $14. 2% IS NOT GOING TO GET THEM TO $14. WITH ALL THE COST INCREASES, IT'S NOT GOING TO SEE A DIFFERENCE TO THEM. I CAN'T ASK THEM TO PAY UNION DUES WHEN THEY CAN'T PAY GROCERIES. >>COUN. DAVIS: FOLKS, WE APPRECIATE IT. WE'RE GLAD YOU'RE HERE TO SUPPORT YOUR UNION AND MEMBERS. WE HAVE TO FOLLOW YOUR RULES TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY GETS A FAIR SHAKE. COUNCILOR PEÑA. >>COUN. PEÑA: I JUST WANT TO ASK THE YOUNG LADY. YOU WERE GOING TO DESCRIBE THE DEPARTMENTS OR EMPLOYEES UNDER $14. TRANSPARENCY THAT WAS POSTED TO THE CITY WEBSITE. I HAVE EMPLOYEES GETTING PAID $13.37. THERE'S THREE UNDER $14. 2% IS NOT GOING TO GET THEM TO OVER $14. WITH THE COST OF INSURANCE AND COST OF LIVING INCREASE THAT'S 4% MINIMUM WE NEED. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU. THIS QUESTION IS FOR THE ADMINISTRATION. WHEN I WAS ASKED IF WE HAVE EMPLOYEES LESS THAN $16 I WAS TOLD NO. WHO CAN ANSWER THIS QUESTION? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR PEÑA, LET ME HAVE MR. ROMERO GIVE YOU THE INFORMATION. AS IT RELATES TO THE PAY OF CITY EMPLOYEES. >>COUN. DAVIS: DIRECTOR ROMERO. ARE YOU STILL HERE? >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILORS, WE DO HAVE SOME POSITIONS THROUGHOUT THE CITY THAT ARE UNDER THAT $15 AN HOUR. WE'RE GETTING THOSE NUMBERS CHECKED RIGHT NOW. SO I CAN REPORT BACK. A LARGE NUMBER OF THOSE POSITIONS FALL UNDER THE TEMPORARY UMBRELLAS OF EMPLOYEES. AND WE HAVE THREE DIFFERENT TEMPORARY TYPES OF EMPLOYEES. OUR REGULAR, TEMPORARY EMPLOYEES ARE SEASONAL. AND OUR STUDENT TEMPORARY EMPLOYEES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YOU SAID STUDENT? WHAT DID YOU SAY? >> WE HAVE THREE UMBRELLAS OF TEMPORARY EMPLOYEES. REGULAR TEMPORARY, THEY'RE ABLE TO WORK UP TO TWO YEARS. OUR STUDENT TEMPS, WHICH NEED TO BE FULL-TIME STUDENTS AND SHOW THEIR TRANSCRIPTS. AND THIRD CATEGORY ARE THE SEASONAL TEMPORARY EMPLOYEES WHO CAN WORK UP TO NINE MONTHS. >>COUN. PEÑA: MR. PRESIDENT, OUTSIDE OF THAT ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONAL EMPLOYEES THAT ARE MAKING UNDER $15 AN HOUR? >> YES, WE HAVE SOME. I'M GETTING THAT LIST RIGHT NOW. >>COUN. PEÑA: IF THEY CAN REPORT ON THAT, THAT'S CONCERNING BECAUSE I WAS CLEAR OF MY CONCERN OF PEOPLE NOT BEING ABLE TO MAKE IT. ESPECIALLY IN THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE MAKING UNDER $15 AN HOUR. THANK YOU, MR. ROMERO. >> ABSOLUTELY. >>COUN. DAVIS: LET'S GOOD -- GO TO COUNCILOR BASSAN AND COUNCILOR SANCHEZ AND OTHERS. >>COUN. BASSAN: I DON'T HAVE A QUESTION FOR MR. ROMERO. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE TO TELL THOSE PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE AND SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF FUNDING FOR THEIR WELL-EARNED SALARIES THAT THE COMMITTEE SUBSTITUTE THAT PASSED THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING WE HAD LAST THURSDAY DID INCORPORATE AN ADDITIONAL 1.5% COST OF LIVING INCREASE FOR THESITE EMPLOYEES ACROSS THE BOARD. I KNOW, I THINK EVERYONE I TALKED TO AGREE IT'S NOT ENOUGH. WORKING WITH ADMINISTRATION AND FIGUING OUT WHAT WE CAN DO WE'RE ABLE TO MAKE IT SO THAT SHOULD THE BUDGET GET PASSED TONIGHT AS IT WAS SUBSTITUTED LAST WEEK, FOR THOSE OF YOU OUT THERE, IT'S NOT JUST 2%. IT SHOULD BE 3.5% TOTAL. >>COUN. DAVIS: COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I WAS ACTUALLY GOING TO BRING UP THE SAME EXACT THING. WE DID PASS THAT. ONE OF THE THINGS I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS AS WELL IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT MS. GOMEZ STATED, SHE'S A DISPATCHER WITH APD. SHE IS DEALING WITH PEOPLE'S LIVES EVERY SINGLE DAY ON THE LINE. AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO. I KNOW FOR ME IT HAS TO DO WITH EVERYBODY THAT TOUCHES THE INDIVIDUAL CITIZENS OF ALBUQUERQUE. I KNOW THAT EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU DOES A JOB AND HAS TO GO OUT THERE AND DEAL WITH THE PUBLIC WHEN YOU SEE ON THE OTHER SIDE THE ADMINISTRATORS THEY DON'T HAVE TO GO OUT THERE AND MAKE CONTACT WITH THE PUBLIC. EVERYBODY HERE, I KNOW, MAKES CONTACT WITH THE PUBLIC. YOU ARE OUR BACKBONE. AND I JUST HOPE THAT THE ADMINISTRATION IS LISTENING AS WELL. BECAUSE WITHOUT YOU, THE SERVICES DON'T GET DELIVERED. THEY DON'T GET RENDERED. AND WE, THE CITIZENS, DON'T GET THE SERVICES WE'RE PAYING FOR. SO, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU UNDERSTAND THAT I SUPPORT EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU. MAY NOT BE ABLE TO GIVE YOU THE MONEY I WISH I COULD, BUT I WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW I'M CONSTANTLY FIGHTING FOR EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU. I WAS A CITY EMPLOYEE FOR 26 YEARS. I KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE TO BE AN INDIVIDUAL THAT HAS CONTACT EACH AND EVERY DAY WITH THE CITIZENS OF ALBUQUERQUE. AND I KNOW YOUR PROFESSIONALISM. I SEE IT EVERY DAY. WHEN I WOULD BE OUT THERE AS A POLICE OFFICER AND MAKE CONTACT WITH SOMEBODY FROM PARKS AND REC, WE WOULD HAVE A GOOD CONVERSATION. SAME THING WITH ANYONE ELSE. BUS DRIVERS AND SO ON. I JUST WANT TO LET EVERYBODY KNOW THAT I THINK NOT ONLY ME BUT I THINK OUR COUNCIL REALLY SUPPORTS EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU AND WANTS TO SEE MORE PEOPLE WORKING IN YOUR CAPACITY TO DELIVER THOSE SERVICES WE SHOULD BE PROVIDING. THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO SAY. THANK YOU. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. THOSE TEMPORARY JOBS, I HAVE A REAL QUICK QUESTION. ARE THOSE FULL-TIME OR PART-TIME JOBS? PART-TIME JOBS. OKAY, THANK YOU. >> UP NEXT IS MAYA FOLLOWED BY JOEL. JOEL FOLLOWED BY CHRISTOPHER ON ZOOM. >> GOOD EVENING, MR. PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. I'M A STAFF REPRESENTATIVE FOR COUNCIL 18. REPRESENT THE EMPLOYEES THAT YOU SAW BEFORE YOU IN THE GREAT CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE. I DON'T WANT TO BELEAGUER WITH OUR POINTS. I THINK YOU HEARD MOST OF THE MAIN ISSUES. I JUST REALLY WANT TO EMPHASIZE WITH THIS COUNCIL, THE DIFFICULTY WE'RE HAVING WITH THE PINO LAWSUIT. IT'S THE 800 POUND GUERILLA -- GORILLA THAT NOBODY IS TALKING ABOUT. IT THE LAWSUIT FIXED A LOT OF INEQUITIES THAT WERE THERE. BUT NOW THERE'S CONCERNS. WE HAVE SITUATIONS IN WHERE A PERSON COULD OR COULD NOT HAVE GOTTEN A RAISE. THEY CAN BE MAKING MORE THAN THEIR SUPERVISOR. SOMEBODY AT A HIGHER LEVEL CERTIFICATION FOR NO OTHER REASON THAN THEY HAD SOMEBODY OF THE OPPOSITE GEND R IN THE POSITION. NOT WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT BUT WITHIN THAT JOB TITLE. WE LITERALLY HAVE TEACHING ASSISTANTS MAKING MORE THAN HEAD TEACHERS. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE ARE HOPING THAT WE DO GET TO WORK OUT. WE KNOW THERE WAS $17 MILLION ALLOTTED TO THAT INITIALLY. ANOTHER $17 MILLION BEING ALLOTTED TO THIS NOW. THIS IS SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONEY WHEN WE TALK ABOUT RAISES WITHIN THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE. WE HOPE YOU STAY FOCUSED ON THE FACT THAT I THINK FROM WHAT WE'VE SEEN THERE SEEMS TO BE A VERY CONSERVATIVE VIEW OF WHAT QUALIFIES AS MERIT WITHIN THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE. WE JUST WANT TO EMPHASIZE THOSE THINGS ARE BREAD AND BUTTER ISSUE. SOMEBODY HAVING MORE SKILL AND EDUCATION AND ADDITIONAL CERTIFICATIONS, THOSE ARE THINGS THAT SHOULD BE VALUED WITHIN THOSE POSITIONS. WE HOPE AS WE WORK FOR A SOLUTION THAT THOSE ARE THINGS ALSO CONSIDERED IN THERE. WITH THAT, I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. WE KNOW YOU'RE WORKING HARD THROUGH THIS. WE HOPE TO GET THROUGH THIS ALTOGETHER. >> WE WILL TRANSFER TO ZOOM. CHRISTOPHER FOLLOWED BY ALEX. >> I'M WAITING TO BE PANELIST. CAN YOU HEAR ME? >> YES, WE CAN HEAR YOU. >> THANK YOU. COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILORS, I'M WITH TOGETHER FOR BROTHERS AND ALBUQUERQUE BUS RIDERS UNION. WE'RE COMMENTING ON THE BUDGET AND REMINDING THE HIGHEST REPORTED FARES, THE REVENUE RAISED AT $1.5 MILLION IN 2018 REPRESENTED 2% OF THE DEPARTMENT'S BUDGET. CONTINUING ZERO FARES MAKES A LOT OF SENSE TO ACTUALLY HAVE A MORE SUSTAINABLE AND CONSISTENT REVENUE FOR THE CITY TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT. AND I WANT TO USE MY TIME TO SAY THE ALBUQUERQUE BUS RIDERS UNION RECOGNIZES THE $3 INCREASE HAS MEANT WE HAVE MORE CONSISTENT ROUTES AND NOT THOSE GHOST BUSES BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH BUS DRIVERS. WE WOULD VERY MUCH SUPPORT INCREASING DRIVER PAY. EVEN TO $20 OR MORE TO MAKE SURE WE DRIVERS WHO FEEL LIKE THEY'RE BEING COMPENSATED. WE CAN DO THAT WITHIN THE BUDGET. WE SUPPORT MAKING SURE THAT THOSE MOTOR COACH OPERATORS NOT ONLY FOR ABQ RIDE BUT FOR SUN VAN ARE COMPENSATED IN WAYS THAT MAKE SENSE FOR HAVING A COMMERCIAL DRIVERS LICENSE AND THEY KEEP US SAFE ON THE BUS AND SUN VAN. >> ALEX FOLLOWED BY JANE. >> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCIL. I HAVE SEVERAL THINGS TO DISCUSS. FIRST I WANT TO THANK COUNCILOR BENTON FOR YEARS OF SERVICE. YOU WILL BE MISSED. PLEASE EXPAND VISION ZERO FUNDING. PLEASE -- I SUPPORT PEGGY NORTONS OBJECTION TO THE CAR WASH ON FOURTH STREET. AND AS THE CHAIR OF TRANSPORTATION AND HOUSING WORKING GROUP I'M SUPPORTING ZERO FARES. THE TRANSPORTATION SECTOR IS LARGEST CONTRIBUTOR TO CLIMATE CHANGE AND OUR RELIANCE ON AUTOMOBILES -- IT MAKES THIS SHOULD BE KEEPING THE FARES ZERO. CARS USED BY SHOPLIFTERS TO COMMIT OTHER CRIMES INCLUING KILLING PEDESTRIANS AND CYCLISTS. WE HAD A HIT AND RUN A WEEK AGO. WE SHOULD MAKE IT MORE EXPENSIVE FOR ALL USERS AS A RESULT. BUS RIDERS AND OTHER NONAUTOUSERS SUBSIDIZE -- THE CITY SHOULD FULLY FUND TRANSPORTATION SERVICES INCLUDING RAISES FOR BUS DRIVERS TO GET OUR ENTIRE FLEET ON THE ROAD AND EXPAND IT AND USE IT ININSTEAD OF CREAING CONGESTIONS IN THE CARS. >> JANE FOLLOWED BY BARBARA. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILORS, FIRST, THANKS FOR DEFERRING CONSIDERATION OF THE IECHL D.O. I.D.O. UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING. SECOND, THE LETTER I SENT YESTERDAY TO ALL COUNCILORS AS AN INDIVIDUAL HAS THE ENDORSEMENT OF THE SFDNA BOARD. COUNCILORS A YEAR AGO VOTED TO APPROVE O-22-15 THE NARROW AND VOTED TO OVERRIDE THE MAYORS VEET -- VETO. THE LANGUAGE SPOKE TO THE CENTRALITY OF NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS IN ADDRESSING SOCIAL JUSTICE AND COMMUNITY ISSUES, PROMOING COLLABORATIVE PLANNING AND SHARING DEMOCRATIC PROCESSES AND ENGAGING CITIZEN INS SOCIAL CHANGE AND ENSUING THEIR REPRESENTATION. LESS THAN SIX MONTHS LATER A SWEEPING REWRITE OF MAJOR PROVISIONS WAS INTRODUCED BY COUNCIL WITH NO ENGAGEMENT BY ANY NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION PRIOR TO INTRODUCTION. IT APPEARED TO ME THE LANGUAGE OF O-22-15 WAS PRETEXT TO REWRITE THE REQUIREMENTS OF RECOGNIZED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS AND DID NOT REFLECT THE CONVICTION OF COUNCILORS ABOUT HOW TO UNDERTAKE CITY PLANNING OR ENGAGE LAND USE ISSUES. IF COUNCILORS BELIEVE MY VIEW IS INCORRECT, AND ACCEPT THE STATEMENT THAT ENGAGEMENT WITH NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS SHOULD BE THE LENS OF PROMOING STRONG PARTICIPATION RATHER THAN PIECING REQUIREMENTS TO TAKE INPUT WHILE PURSUING CONTRARY OBJECTIVES I ASK YOU TO DEFEAT O-22-45. HOUSING FORWARD INITIATIVES CAN AND SHOULD BE CONSIDERED IN A PROCESS THAT LOOKS LIKE THE PRINCIPLES OF PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> BRB RUFOLLOWED BY >> BARBARA FOLLOWED BY RACHEL. >> COUNCILOR DAVIS, COUNCILORS, MY CONCERN IS ALSO ABOUT THE OVERALL APPROACH TO THE CURRENT HOMELESS PROBLEM. THE HOUSING AND HOMELESS PROBLEM IS CRITICAL BUT THIS CRISIS IS TEMPORARY. YET THE PLANS THAT THE CIY IS MAKING MAKES SIGNIFICANT CHANGES TO THE CITY AND NEIGHBORHOODS THAT WILL BE PERMANENT AND DETRIMENTAL TO ALBUQUERQUE. MOREOVER, BECAUSE THE PROBLEM IS VIEWED AS A CRISIS, THE PROPOSED SOLUTIONS ARE BEING RUSHED FORWARD WITHOUT SUFFICIENT COMMUNITY INPUT AND WITHOUT SUFFICIENT STUDY OF NOT ONLY POSSIBLE ALTERNATIVE SOLUTIONS AND WAYS TO ADDRESS ROUTE CAUSES OF HOMELESSNESS BUT ALSO OF THE RAMIFICATIONS BOTH SHORT AND LONG-TERM THAT THESE PROPOSALS WILL HAVE ON THE PEOPLE OF ALBUQUERQUE AND THE PEOPLE THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO HELP. I'M CONCERNED THAT THE CITY'S QUICK FIXES WILL IN THE LONG RUN DO LITTLE TO PERMANENTLY SOLVE THE PROBLEM AND THEY HAVE A HIGH PROBABILITY OF MAKING IT WORK. THE PROPOSED PLAN DOES MORE TO ENABLE THE PROBLEM TO GROW AND CONTINUE THAN IT DOES TO FOSTER CARE, EDUCATION, AND TREATMENT FOR THOSE UNHOUSED WHO WITH SUCH WOULD CAUSE PROBLEMS ADDRESS MIGHT BECOME PERMANENTLY SELF-SUFFICIENT. THIS IS A CURRENT BUT TEMPORARY CRISIS. WE SHOULD TREAT IT AS SUCH AND NOT COMPLETELY ALTER THE CHARACTER WITH ALBUQUERQUE WITH WELL INTENTIONS BUT NOT WELL THOUGHT OUT SOLUTIONS. CITY FUNDS AND CITIZEN COMPASSION ARE NOT ENDLESS. AND BOTH SHOULD BE USED WISELY. THANK YOU. >> RACHEL FOLLOWED BY ROSEMARY. >> I'M WITH ALBUQUERQUE HEALTH CARE FOR THE HOMELESS. WE'RE HERE TO ASK FOR YOUR FULL SUPPORT OF FUNDING THE TRANSIT DEPARTMENT BUDGET FOR THE CONTINUED SUCCESS. >> MY APOLOGIES. I'LL BRING YOU BACK IN. MY MISTAKE, RACHEL. PLEASE START OVER. THANK YOU. SORRY ABOUT THAT, RACHEL. >> I'M BACK. THANK YOU. I'LL BE QUICK. HEALTH CARE FOR THE HOMELESS WE'RE SEEING AN INCREASE OF THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE TRANSIT DEPENDENT AND LIVING IN POVERTY AND TRANSIT DEPENDENT RESIDENTS SENIORS AND FAMILIES AND ESSENTIAL WORKERS AND PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES DESERVE ONE LESS THING TO WORRY ABOUT. THE PREVIOUS PROCESS OF SUPPLYING NONPROFITS WITH DISCOUNTEDM PASSES COST ESSENTIAL DOLLARS AND OUR CLIENTS VALUABLE TIME AND ENERGY TO TRAVEL ALL AROUND TOWN. WE ARE ALSO CONCERNED THAT THE INCREASED HOUSING VOUCHER FUNDING THAT WAS PASSED LAST YEAR HAS BEEN CHALLENGED TO NON-RECURRING. WE'VE HEARD ABOUT THE HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS CRISIS. I'M HERE TO TELL YOU THAT THE ANSWER TO HOMELESSNESS STARTS WITH HOUSING. IT'S THE MOST POWERFUL MEDICINE WE CAN DESCRIBE AS HEALTH CARE PROVIDERS. IT'S THE FOUNDATION FOR ADDRESSING HEALTH CONCERNS, AND MENTAL HEALTH. WE'RE LIMITED IN OUR SUCCESS AND THE SUCCESS OF OUR COMMUNITY. IF WE'RE CANNOT PROVIDE HOUSING SUPPORT TO ENSURE THAT EVERYONE IN THE COMMUNITY THRIVE. WE CAN SOLVE HOMELESSNESS AND THE ANSWER IS HOUSING. WE ASK FOR YOUR RECONSIDERATION FOR THIS BACK TO RECURRING ESH PENCE. THANK YOU FOR ALL THE WORK YOU DO AND ALL THE WORK YOU PUT INTO THE BUDGET. >> ROSEMARY FOLLOWED BY ROBERT. >> THERE, I AM. COUNCILORS, COUNCILOR DAVIS, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, I AM JUST GOING TO SPEAK VERY BRIEFLY. I ONLY HAVE TWO MINUTES. IN REGARD TO THE BUDGET, SUPPORT MAINTAINING FREE FARES FOR TRANSIT. IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO THE PEOPLE THAT I USED TO WORK WITH SO MUCH WHICH WAS PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES THAT HAVE TROUBLE WITH HIDRID SYSTEMS WHERE THEY HAVE TO DO PAPERWORK IN ORDER TO GET FREE TRANSIT. WHILE YOU'RE DEFERRING THE I.D.O., I WANT TO SAY WHILE ITS IN YOUR MIND, THE FOCUS OUR CITY NEEDS IS TO BECOME A MORE VITAL PLACE TO LIVE, LEARN FOR ALL OF US. IF WE DON'T MAKE SIGNIFICANT CHANGES IN HOW WE PROVIDE HOUSING AND HOW WE INTERSPERSE IT WITH TRANSPORTATION AND SHOPPING AND THE LIKE TO MAKE A LIVABLE CITY, WE'RE GOING TO BE SEEING ALBUQUERQUE LOSE THE OPPORTUNITY TO KEEP ITS YOUNG PEOPLE. TO ATTRACT BUSINESSES ET CETERA. THE HOUSING CRISIS IS NOT A TEMPORARY CRISIS. HOMELESSNESS IS JUST THE TIP OF THAT ICE BERG. UNDERNEATH THAT ARE THE FAMILIES WHO ARE LIVING IN SUBSTANDARD HOUSING THAT THEY ARE PAYING ENTIRELY TOO MUCH INCOME FOR. AND THE HOUSING FORWARD PROPOSAL IN THE IDO ARE DESIGNED TO ADDRESS THIS PROBLEM TOO. IF WE DON'T ADDRESS IT AS THE PRICES OF RENTALS ARE GOING UP, AND THE PRICES OF BUYING HOUSING IS GOING UP, AS THE INTEREST RATES FROM BUYING IS IS GOING UP, WE'RE GOING TO SEE A REAL CRASH IN THE ABILITY OF WORKING PEOPLE TO CONTINUE TO FUNCTION IN THE CITY IF WE DON'T GIVE THEM HELP AND SUPPORT IN AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND ATTRACTIVE SERVICE-RICH NEIGHBORHOODS IN WHICH THEY MAY LIVE. >> ROBERT FOLLOWED BY EVELYN. >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT I AM IN SUPPORT AS A MORTGAGE LOAN ORIGINATER ON THE FRONT LINE OFTZ REAL ESTATE INDUSTRY TALKING ABOUT THE I.D.O. CHANGES. I KNOW IT'S DELAYED, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE WERE CONSIDERATIONS FOR LOGIC AND DATA BEHIND THE DECISION MAKING PROCESS GOING INTO JUNE. AND GOING TO GIVE EXTRA RESOURCES FOR THAT. THE COMBRATER ALBUQUERQUE GREATER ALBUQUERQUE ASSOCIATION OF REALTORA. GAAR.COM IS A GREAT LOCATION TO FIND MORE DATA ON HOUSING AND LETTING YOU KNOW HOW AND WHY WE SHOULD BE SUPPORTING THE IDO ZONING CHANGES COMING INTO JUNE. THAT IS THE IMAGINE POINT OF MY TALK. I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT NOT JUST MYSELF AND THE REALTORS OUT THERE BUT THE CITIZENS IN THE COMMUNITY SUPPORT THIS CHANGE. >> EVELYN FOLLOWED BY ALEXANDER. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCIL MEMBERS, THE HOUSING FORWARD INITIATIVE IS RIGGED AGAINST SINGLE FAMILY HOMEOWNERS. I'M A REALTOR AND APPRAISER AND SENIOR HOMEOWNER. THERE'S NO PROOF THAT ADDED RENTAL UNITS WILL PROVIDE AFFORDABLE OR LOW INCOME HOUSING. THE BENEFICIAIES ARE THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE INDUSTRY THAT CAME UP DURING THIS PLAN. SINGLE FAMILY HOMEOWNERS WERE NOT INCLUDED OR NOTIFIED OF THIS PROPOSAL. THE PROPOSAL IS BASED ON FALSE PREMISESIS SUCH AS THERE'S RACISM AND DISCRIMINATION IN OUR COMMUNITY. ANOTHER FALSE PREMISE IS THERE WILL BE 40,000 NEW JOBS COMING TO OUR REGION. A NATIONAL RESEARCH ORGANIZATION STATES THAT THERE WILL BE A NET INCREASE OF 3100 JOBS IN 2023 IN ALBUQUERQUE. THERE IS NO PROOF THAT REZONING WILL RESULT IN TRIPING THE NUMBER OF HOUSING UNITS. I FOUND TWO STUDIES THAT SHOW THE OPPOSITE. IF THIS CHANGE IS MADE, SINGLE FAMILY HOMEOWNERS WILL LOSE PROPERTY RIGHTS. MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL WITH STRONG TIES TO THE COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE INDUSTRY SHOULD RECUSE THEMSELVES ON VOTING ON THIS AMENDMENT. THE SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING COMPONENT SHOULD BE DELETED FROM THE O-22-A 5-. >> ALEXANDER. >> HELLO, THERE'S AN INITIATIVE PUSHED BY PRIVATE DEVELOPERS CONSENSUS PLANNING AND JUBE LEE THAT IS WANTING TO CONSTRUCT A 238-UNIT HOUSING. >>COUN. DAVIS: I'M GOING TO INTERJECT. I'M SORRY WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO SPEAK ABOUT THAT TONIGHT. THIS IS ABOUT A PENDING ZONING MATTER AND WE HAVE A HEARING PROCESS FOR THAT. UNFORTUNATELY, THE COUNCIL IS NOT ABLE TO HEAR ABOUT THOSE MATTERS TONIGHT OUTSIDE OF THAT PROCESS. IF YOU HAVE OTHER COMMENTS YOU'RE WELCOME TO MAKE THEM, WE'RE NOT GOING TO ALLOW YOU TO MAKE COMMENTS ON A PENDING ZONING MATTER UNTIL IT COMES TO THE COUNCIL. >> ALL RIGHT. >>COUN. DAVIS: DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER TOPICS YOU WANT TO DISCUSS THIS EVENING? >> I'M GOOD. >>COUN. DAVIS: YOU BET WE'LL SEE YOU IN A FEW WEEKS OR FEW MONTHS. >> THERE WERE SEVERAL ZOOM ATTENDEES THAT I COULD NOT FIND IN ZOOM. THAT CONCLUDES GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU. AS PROMISED, UNLESS ANY OTHER COUNCILORS HAS OTHER PLANS, WE'LL TAKE OUR NORMAL 7 O'CLOCK DINNER BREAK FOR 30 MINUTES FOR THOSE OF YOU PLANNING TO COME BACK. I THINK WE'LL TRYING TO TAKE THE ITEMS, WE HAVE A COUPLE ITEMS TO BE DEFERRED SO THE HANDFUL OF PEOPLE CAN EXIT IF THEY SO CHOOSE AND WE'LL GET INTO THE MEATY STUFF INCLUING A ZONING FINDING AND OUR BUDGET. WE'LL SEE YOU SOON. >>COUN. DAVIS: WE HAVE MOST EVERYBODY BACK. WE'LL START WITH EASY STUFF UNTIL WE GET THE REST OF OUR TEAMS HERE. JUST BECAUSE COUNCILOR BENTON IS NOT HERE, I'M GOING TO PASS ON THE ZONING MATTER FOR JUST A MINUTE. COUNCILOR BASSAN, I THINK YOU ARE INTENDING TO DEFER TWO ITEMS. WHY DON'T WE TAKE THOSE, IF THAT'S OKAY? >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THE FLOOR SUBSTITUTES AND IT'S MY INTENTION TO BE RABID BUT TRU PASS THE FLOOR SUBSTITUTES 0-55 AND O-56. BECAUSE I WOULD LIKE US TO BE ABLE TO KNOWHICH FINAL VERSION, WHICH DRAFT, WHEREWEAR AT AS FAR AS THE SPONSOR OTHE BILL AND THE PEOPLE WE'RE WORKING WITH. I HOPE TO GET YOUR SUPPORT ON PASSING THE FLOOR SUBSTITUTE. HAVE EVERY INTENTION OF IMMEDIATELY MOVING FOR A DEFERRAL UNTIL T NEXT COUNCIL MEETING SO COUNCILORS AND ADMINISTRAON BOTH THE I.G.ND I.A. AND EVERYBODY ANDG.O. CAN SE WHERE WE'RE GOI A WHAT WE'RE DOING. O-55 IS AMENDING THE GENERAL ORDINANCE OF THE REVISED DINANCES. I MOVE A DO PASS. >>. DAVIS: MOTION AN SEND. >>COUN. BASSAN: I'D LIKEOVE THE FLOOR SUBSTITUTE. >>CO. DAVIS: I'LL SECO IT. >>COUN. BASSAN: I REALLY LIKEO SS THE FLOOR SUBSTITUTE AS MENTIONED. I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. DAVIS: ANY DCUSSION ON THELOOR SUBSTITUTE AVAILABLE? WE'LL LL THE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVORAY YS AND RAISE YOUR ND. COCILOR BASSAN, SUBSTITUTE. >>COUN. SSAN: I LIKE TO MOVE DEFERRAL OFO-55 TO JUNE 5th. >>COUN. VIS: SECOND FROM COUNCILOR GROUT. ANY DISCUSSION ON THE DEFERRAL? SEEING NE. AL THOSE IN FAVOR? RAISE UR HAND. ANY OPPOSED? THAT MATTER CARES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. BASSANMR. PRESIDENT, O-56 IS COMMITTEE SUBSTITUTE THREAMEING -- AMENDING TH REVISE OINANCESF ALBUQUERQUE. I MOVE AO PASS . PRESIDENT, I LIKE TO ME THE FLOOR SUBSTITUTE. ALL OF THE SAM REASONS STATED OV I URGE YUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. DAVIS: WDONE. ANY DISCUSSION SEEINGNONE. ALHOSE IN FAV SAY YES. COUN. BASSAN: . PRESIDENT, MOVE DEFERRAL UNTIL JUNE 5th. >>COUN. DAVIS: MOTIOAN SEVERASECOND COUNCILOR GROU IS THE ONE I HED. ALL THOS IN FAVOR SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAN ANY SED? THAT MATTER CARIES UNAMOUSLY. ANK YOU, COUNCOR BSAN. ARECIATE THT. I'M GOINTOO BACK. WE HA MS.RONCILLO HERE. AC-23-9 IS TO RURN TO THE MATTER WE DEALT WITH IN A PREVIOUS MEETG. IS IS M NORTON WPPLED A SITE PLAN ADMINISTRE CISION. WE PREVIOUSLY RANDED THI MATTER. WOULD YOULEASE CATCH USU? L FULL HEANG WIIDE LK ELEMTS ON AAR WASH ON 4th STREET THE COUNCILOTED TO RMA TO THELANNING DEPAMENT. COUNCITAFFFTED PROPOSED REMANDNE COCIL TO CONSIDER THOSE INSUCTISOULDIRECT PNNINGEPARTMENT TO EVALTE AND MAKE A WRITT FIING ABOU WHETH TS SIDE WA LAYOUT ISHE CRITERIA D GUIDELINES MAKE ANADDITIAL FINDING NDING THE JUSTIFICATION FOR TH BUFFE IS PCED AND IDENTI IF THERE A ANY SPECIAL CIRCUMSTAESHAT JUSTY DEVIION FROMHE PRERRED DELK LAY OUT. AND AL AS PLAING TO IDENTI EDENCE INUPPORT OF DECISIONAS THAT WAS SHI THATAS DISSSED AT THEAST COUNCIL MEETING AS LACKGN THE PRIOR APPROL. >>COUNDAVIS: THANK U. COUNCILO, LL MAKE AOTIO AS PRENTEEN INSTRUCTIONS HERE A SECD? SECOND FROMOUNCILOR GROUT. ANY DISSSION ON THATOTIO SEEI NON ALL THOSE IN FAVORF THE MOTION TO ADOPT SAY YES AND RAISE Y HA. OPPOSED? MATTER IS UNANIMOUS. I WT TO GOACK REALLY QCK O-55. WE HAVENE PUBLIC SPEAKER GNEDP ON THA MATTER. I KNE'REEF IT AD BE BACK. I WANTO GE HER AN PORTUNITY IF SHETI . >>HANK YOR. PRESIDENT. SHE'S LONGER IN ZOOM. >>COUNDAS:GOO JUSTO CHECK OUR RECO THANKS FOR CATING U O THT. THATUTS CK. COCILOBENTON, LET'S DO THIS NUISANCE SSTANDARD DLLING. THAT'S ON THEAGDA. THINK WE CAN DO THAT FAIY ICKLY. R-, ITEM C IF THE PLANNG DIRECTOS TOJOIN, WELCOMEO JO. >>COUN. ONTHANK YOU, MR. PRESIDEN IT AUBSTANDARD DWEING AT LOARD87105. 'VE HEARD TS SEVAL MES. FROMLAING.SEAVE AN UPIDATE WE'LL SEE WHERE WE STAND. >>COUNDAVI DIRECTOR, WOU YOU CAT U UP AND WE HAV ON PUBLIC SPEAKER AND WE'LL G GOODO OUR DECISI >> COUNCORDAVI IT'S M UNDERSNDIN THAT THE OWNERAS BEEN DOING HER BEST TO TRY T MAKEOME IMPROVEMTSO THE PROPERTY, AT LEAST TO SECURE IT. I DI'T S IT MYSELBUT T REPO I REID I CODE ENRCEMT IS TY AEMPT T SECURE THE PROPERTY YET AGAIN ON FRIDAY. DIDOM CLEANUP BT THE PROPERTYOT BROKEN INTO. T AFTERWARDS SO THE PBLEM HAS GNE AWAY. WE HAD ASKED LAST TIME FOR THE FERRAL OF THE OWNERO SEE WHAT SHE WOULD DO TO HAVET DEMOLISHED HERSELF THROUGH IVATE CONTRAOR ASF YET, WE'VE NOT SEE ANY COCT IN THAT RERD. I WAS HING SHE WAS HERE AND MAYBE IN LIGHTEN US MORE. THISS ONE OF THOSE WHERE I'M ON T FENCE. IF S CAN LE UP ARIVATE NTRACTOR IT SAVESS FROM ING OUR RESOURCES AND TRYG RECROUP THE REOURC. I JUST DON'T OW. MAYBE THE PUBLIC SPEAKER ON THIS E RIGHT NOW. >>UN. DAVIS: THANK YOU, DIRECTOR. LES TAKE OUBLIC SPEAKER. D I SEE THE REPRESENTATIVE HERE. WE'LL ADD HER I IT'S OKAY WITH COUNCIR BENTON. SEE IF WE CAN COM TO A RESOLUTION. LET'S TAKE FIRST PUBLIC COMMENT. THANK YOU. YES, I TO A RIDEP THERE. WALK AROUND. EVERYTHING INTACT, EXCEPT O CAUGHT MY ATTTION HERE. THAT'S INSPECTION --HERES IT? INVESTIGATED -- HAS IVESTIGATED CONDITION OF SAID BUILDING. STRUCTURE D PREMISESIS. WELL, STRUCTURE WHAT CAN YOUEE IT? ZERO. EVERYTHING INTACT. EXCEPT OUR BORDER. SOMEBODY OPENED ONE WINDOW SLIGHTLY. WINDOW I D'T REMEMBER. I WONDER IF THAT IS WHAT THE CITY INSPECTORS HAVE CALLED IT. ANYWAY, EVERYTHING ELSE OUT THERE NICE AND CLEAN INSIDE YOU CAN TELL. EVERYTHING LOOKS INTACT TOO. IT LOOKS JUNK ACROSS THE STREET. NOT ON THIS PROPERTY. IT'S SIMPLY TWO APARTMENT HOUSES. NOW YOU WANT AGAIN, THAT'S WHAT YOU BEEN DOING IS LYING HERE. ABOUT THE CONDITION. IT'S A BUNCH OF LIES. EVERY HOUSE AFTER MANY YEARS GOING TO BE AT RISK WHEN MORTGAGE EXPIRES. THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE DOING. THANK YOU. >>COUN. DAVIS: COUNCILOR BENTON, I SEE WE HAVE THE HOMEOWNERS. SHE'S NOT ON THE PUBLIC COMMENT LIST. BUT SHE'S HERE. WE'LL TAKE YOUR LEAD. >>COUN. BENTON: PLEASE. WE WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM HER. I KNOW SHE'S HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH NATHAN FROM MY OFFICE. HE'S ALSO LOOKED AT THE SITE AND TOOK SOME PHOTOS RECENTLY. WELCOME, AND JUST AN UPDATE. I CAN SEE THAT YOU'VE MADE SOME REAL EFFORTS TO CLEAN THE PLACE UP. AND I HEARD SECONDHAND, I'VE I BELIEVE YOU STATED PREVIOUSLY, IS THAT YOU LIKE TO PRESERVE THE ONE HOUSE OF THE TWO. CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHERE YOU STAND AS FAR AS THE WORK AND THE PROGRESS AS FAR AS DEMOLISHING THE OTHER HOUSE? >> YES. LAST TIME I WAS HERE I SAID I DIDN'T KNOW IF 30 DAYS WAS GOING TO BE ENOUGH BUT I APPRECIATE THE EXTENSION. THIS PROPERTY IS LIKE PEELING BACK AN UNION. I WANT TO CREATE A COMMUNITY GARDEN THERE. THE ADOBE HOME WAS MY GRANDMOTHER'S HOME. THIS PROPERTY IS 90 YEARS OLD. THAT'S THE ONE I LIKE TO PRESERVE. WHAT I'M HAVING TO DO IS MAKE BEST USE OF MY FUNDS AND REALLY SECURING THE PROPERTY. IT HAS A HISTORY. THE REASON MY FATHER MOVED OFF THE PROPERTY WAS BECAUSE THERE WAS SEVERAL, REV SL BREAK-INS SO HE HAD TO LEAVE THE PROPERTY. WE COULDN'T KEEP RENTERS THERE. I'M TRYING TO REVITALIZE THE PRIOR PROPERTY. AS I'M DOING THIS, LOOKING AT THIS, THERE'S ALSO LIENS ON THE PROPERTY. SOME SOLID WASTE FOR THE PREVIOUS BOARDING. WHEN I LOOKED FOR PERMITTING AND DEP -- DEMOLITION, I HAVE TO PAY THAT TOO. I CAN'T GET THE PERMIT TO DEMOLISH THE PROPERTY UNTIL I PAY FOR THOSE BACK THINGS ALSO. MY CONCERN IS IF THE CITY DEMOLISHED IT IT'S GOING TO BE ANOTHER LIEN THAT'S GOING TO STOP THE PROPERTY FROM BEING DEVELOPED BECAUSE I'M GOING TO HAVE TO PAY THE FEES BEFORE I CAN PAY FOR ANYTHING ON THE PROPERTY. I CAN'T PUT ANY INFRASTRUCTURE. IT'S GOING TO HINDER THE PROBLEM OVERALL. I DID TALK TO SOLID WASTE ABOUT THE FEES AND HOW WE CAN WORK THROUGH THOSE FEES. I TALKED TO JAMES AT PERMITTING AND HE EXPLAINED THE PROCESS. I CAN PULL PERMITS BY THE END OF THIS MONTH TO GET THE DEMOLITION GOING. BUT I'M GOING TO HAVE TO PAY THE LIENS THAT'S BEEN DONE. WE HAVE SECURED THE FENCING. WE HUNG NO TRESPASSING SIGNS. WE HAVE SOMEBODY GOING BY EVERY DAY IF NOT EVERY OTHER DAY. WE WENT ON FRIDAY, WE RESECURED IT. RIGHT NOW THAT'S WHERE IT'S AT. IT'S A PROCESS THE HEAD FOR THE ACEQUIA AND DRAINS, THEY SAID THE LOAN WAS 4,000 TO GET THE PROPERTY BACK TO WHERE IT WANTS TO BE. THAT'S WHERE I'M AT RIGHT NOW. WE WANT A DEMOLITION THOSE TWO APARTMENT BUILDINGS. I'M HAVING TO MAKE BEST USE OF MY FUNDS. MY BIGGEST CONCERN WITH THE PROPERTY IS SECURING THE PROPERTY. I SPOKE WITH THE NEIGHBOR NEXT DOOR, AND I THINK IT GOES HAND AND HAND. THERE'S A LOT OF HOMELESSNESS THERE. WE CAN SAY THAT THESE EMPTY BUILDINGS ARE BRINGING THE HOMELESS, I'M EXPLAINING TO HIM SAYING MY FAMILY HAD THE PROPERTY FOR 85 YEARS. WHEN WE LIVED HERE THERE WAS A REASON THERE WAS BREAK-INS. THERE'S THE DRUG USE. THERE'S THE WALK ABOUT. THERE'S OTHER THINGS, NOT JUST THE PROPERTY. WE HAVE TO BUILD UP ACTIVITY SO THE HOMELESS WON'T BE THERE. HOW DO I GET THE ACTIVITY TO PUT GREENHOUSES THERE AND BUILD A COMMUNITY GARDEN WHEN WE HAVE HOMELESS THERE COMING IN AND OUT OF THE PROPERTY. I THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE CATCH 22. I THINK MORE ACTIVITY AND SEEING US MORE OFTEN WILL HELP WITH THAT. BUT DO I SPEND THE MONEY ON SECURING IT? WE HAD CONVERSATION THE LAST TIME. SECURING, PUTTING PLANTSES AND CAMERAS, OR DO I SPEND THE MONEY PAYING THE PERMITS AND TEARING DOWN THE HOME. WHAT DO YOU FEEL IS BEST USE? TEAR DOWN THE BUILDING OR SECURE? BECAUSE WE ENCAMPMENTS ALL THE TIME ON THAT PROPERTY. I NEED TO KEEP THAT PROPERTY SECURE TOO. THAT'S WHY I WAS REACHING OUT TO THE OFFICE AND I SPOKE WITH NATHAN AND EXPLAINED THE FUNDS. UNFORTUNATELY, I SUBMITTED FOR THE GRANT. I DIDN'T GET THE GRANT. THAT'S VERY DISAPPOINTED. WE'RE SUBMITTING FOR OTHER GRANTS AND LOOKING FOR OTHER RESOURCES AND FUNDS TO DEVELOP THE PROPERTY. >>COUN. BENTON: MR. PRESIDENT, I DON'T PROPORT TO MAKE DECISIONS FOR THE CITY, I'M THE CITY COUNCIL ER, THAT'S PRETTY LOW ON THE TOTEM POLL. I SEE, WE SEE THAT YOU'RE MAKING AN EFFORT. IT SEEMS LIKE THAT WE'RE ALL BETWEEN A ROCK AND HARD PLACE. WE'VE GOT POLICIES WE HAVE TO ENFORCE FAIRLY ACROSS THE BOARD. COULD I ASK -- IT'S A FAIRLY LARGE PROPERTY, IT'S -- >> IT'S TWO ASK A HALF ACRES. IT'S NOT JUST THE BUILDING. THERE'S A TWO-ACRE LOT BEHIND IT. THERE'S A LOT OF PROPERTY TO SECURE. IT'S RIGHT AGAINST THE ACEQUIA. WHY IS WHY I WANT TO TURN IT INTO A GREEN AREA AND REDEVELOP IT SO IT'S A GREEN AREA AND USE THE RESOURCES WITHIN THE RIO GRANDE VALLEY TO MAKE IT A GREEN SPACE AGAIN. >>COUN. BENTON: AND, MR. PRESIDENT, IN FAIRNESS TO EVERYONE, YEAH PEOPLE ARE GOING TO KEEP BREAKING INTO A BUILDING LIKE THAT. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY BREAK INTO BOTH OF THEM OR THE ONE YOU'RE TRYING TO SAVE? >> JUST AS THE OTHER GENTLEMAN THAT SPOKE, IT WAS THE ONE BOARD. I DON'T KNOW IF WE SECURED IT AND -- I DON'T KNOW IF THEY WENT BACK IN AND IT WAS HALF-POPPED OPEN. WE HAD TO POP IT CLOSED. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY WENT IN THERE IN THE MORNING. EVEN US WITH MY DAUGHTER AND I, WE TALKED ABOUT PUTTING A SIGNEE HOME OR SOMETHING ON THERE, WE HAVE TO CONSIDER. WE'RE SPENDING OUR MONEY TO HAVE SOMEONE THERE ON THE PROPERTY. THE NEIGHBORS, THEY DO SAY THEY CALL THE POLICE AND THE POLICE DON'T RESPOND. THEY SAID THEY HAD A COUPLE ON THE BACKYARD AND -- WE CAN TEAR DOWN THE BUILDING IT'S NOT GOING TO STOP THEM FROM GOING ON THE PROPERTY AND PUTTING UP A TENT. I FEEL LIKE WE HAVE TO FIND A WAY TO SECURE THE PROPERTY. SUMMER IS COMING. YOU KNOW. >>COUN. BENTON: I REALIZE, MR. PRESIDENT, WE DISCUSSED THIS PLENTY LAST TIME AND THERE'S SEEMINGLY A DISAGREEMENT SHOULD THEY BOTH BE TORN DOWN AND THE PLANNING DIRECTOR SAYS IT'S NOT STRUCTURALLY SOUND. FROM THE STREET, IT LOOKS MORE SAFE. I'M AT A LOSS TOO. >> FOR MYSELF -- >>COUN. DAVIS: MA'AM. LET ME GO TO A COUPLE OTHER COUNCILORS. WE'LL COME BACK TO YOU. I WILL SAY IT'S BEEN OUR PRACTICE NORMALLY, THIS IS AN ORDINANCE WE HAVE TO ENFORCE FAIRLY. IT'S OUR PRACTICE TO GIVE SOMEONE AN EXTENSION IF THEY SHOW UP AND BUILD A PLAN AND GIVE THEM TIME TO EXECUTE. IT'S GENERALLY OUR PRACTICE AS OF LATE, IF WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO SECURE THE PROPERTY AND MOVE FORWARD SUFFICIENTLY, THE PAST THESE TYPES OF RESOLUTION, SO BY THE TIME IT GET OOZE THE MAYORS MAYORS OFFICE AND WORK THROUGH THE PLANNING PROCESS THERE'S ADDITIONAL TIME BUT THERE'S A DEADLINE FOR PUBLIC SAFETY PURPOSES THAT SAYS IF YOU GET THERE FIRST, THAT'S GREAT. YOU CAN COME UP WITH SOMETHING IN THE MEANTIME AND THEY DON'T NEED TO EXPEND CITY MONEY TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM IT'S FINE. BUT IT DOES KEEP THIS FROM COMING BACK AND BACK. THIS COUNCIL IS ABOUT TO GO ON BREAK SOON. THERE'S CONCERNS THERE AS WELL. I JUST WANT TO REMIND US HOW WE NORMALLY HANDLE THIS, BUT ANYBODY CAN MAKE A MOTION AT THIS POINT. IF THERE'S ANY OTHER COMMENTS? COUNCILOR BENTON. >>COUN. BENTON: COULD WE HEAR FROM THE DIRECTOR AND STAFF AND ANYONE WHO WANTS TO GET UP THERE? IF OTHER COUNCILORS HAVE QUESTIONS, PLEASE, THEY SHOULD GO FIRST. I WAS GOING TO ASK THE DIRECTOR IS THERE ANY LATITUDE WITH REGARD TO THE OTHER HOUSE? THE SECOND BUILDING THAT'S IN SOMEWHAT BETTER SHAPE AS TO SECURING THAT FENCING THAT AND DOING A LIMITED AMOUNT OF FENCING THAT CAN ACTUALLY PROTECT THE STRUCTURE ALONG WITH BOARDING IT UP? I'M THINKING ALOUD. >> ARE YOU REFERRING -- >>COUN. BENTON: I'M ASKING THE DIRECTOR. IF THAT WOULD BE AN OPTION. >> THE POSITION OFT PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND THE CODE ENFORCEMENT HASN'T CHANGED ON THAT. WE HAVE NOT DETERMINED THAT TECHNICALLY I GUESS ANYTHING COULD BE SAABLE IF YOU'RE WILLING TO SPEND ENOUGH MONEY. I SEE REMODELS WHERE YOU KEEP ONE WALL BECAUSE MAYBE THAT ONE WALL HAD DECENT FOOTING. YOU KNOW, WITH UNLIMITED RESOURCES, WHICH I'M NOT HEARING IS THE CASE, SURE. BUT IN A SITUATION WITH LIMITED RESOURCES AND THE ONGOING ISSUES THAT ARE THERE THAT ARE NOT GOING TO GO AWAY, THE POSITION OF THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT HAS NOT CHANGED. IT TAKES SEVEN TO TEN WEEKS AFTER YOUR RESOLUTION WEEKS FOR US TO GET A DEMOLITION CREW OUT THERE. IN THIS CASE AS WITH ALL OTHERS WE SAY IF YOU CAN COME IN AND SHOW US A RENOVATION PLAN, I WOULD ASSIGN A CONTRACT AND DEMOLITION PLAN FOR THE OTHER STRUCTURE THEN THE CITY IS HAPPY TO NOT USE RESOURCES. >>COUN. BENTON: DO WE EVER ALLOW A SLAB TO REMAIN? CONCRETE FOUNDATION TO REMAIN AND KEEP THE REST OF THE STRUCTURE? IT SEEMS LIKE THAT'S LESS OF DEMOLITION ACROSS THAN CAN BE ADDRESSED AT A LATER DATE. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR BENTON, I'M NOT AWARE OF THAT. NORMALLY YOU SCRAPE THE PROPERTY. PARTICULARLY IF IT'S A 97-YEAR-OLD ADOBE. I DOUBT IT HAS A CONCRETE SLAB. >>COUN. BENTON: I'M THINKING OF THE OTHER STRUCTURE. >> GENERALLY NOT. YOU'VE GOT YOUR PLUMBING AND EVERYTHING THAT RUNS UNDERNEATH THAT SLAB. THAT'S USUALLY SHOT AS WELL. I DON'T KNOW IFALIZE -- IF THERE'S ANY EFFICACY OF LEAVING A CONCRETE SLAB IF YOU'RE GOING TO BE PUTTING UP A STRUCTURE. >>COUN. BENTON: JUST LOOKING AT AFFORDABILITY OF THE REMOVAL OF THE NUISANCE. >>COUN. JONES: THIS IS A TOUGH ONE. IT'S NOT EASY FOR ANYONE. BUT I LOOK AT THIS, LET'S LOOK AT MONEY IF INVOLVED. THIS COULD FIT ANOTHER -- SIT ANOTHER FIVE YEARS OR MORE AND HAVE NOTHING DONE TO IT AND HAVE ALL KINDS OF NUISANCE IN THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE IT'S THERE. AND THE OWNER WOULD PROBABLY FACE MORE FINANCIAL OBLIGATIONS BECAUSE OF THE PROBLEMS IN THE COMMUNITY AND ALSO HAVE TO REMOVE AND SCRAPE THE FACILITY. I'M GOING TO TAKE A HARNED LINE AND SAY I THINK WE SHOULD ENFORCE THE REMOVAL AND SCRAPING OF THIS PARTICULAR STRUCTURE. AND MAKE THE PROPERTY SALE SELLABLE. AND DO BLG. AND NOT STRESS THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND PEOPLE AROUND IT DURING THAT TIME FRAME. IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO COME DOWN. IT'S NOT REUSABLE. LET'S TRY TO SPEED IT UP AND MAKE IT MORE COMFORTABLE FOR THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE TO LIVE NEAR IT. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR. COUNCILOR PEÑA. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I'M HEARING FROM THE PLANNING STAFF THAT THE WORKING AND TRYING TO MAKE PROGRESS. IS THAT CORRECT? YOU KNOW, I JUST THINK HERE WE GO BACK TO CREAING THE HOMELESS ISSUE WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IF YOU KNOCK DOWN BOTH BUILDINGS THERE'S ISSUES WITH HOMELESS IN THE PROPERTY. AND I CAN SEE THIS LADY COMING BACK BECAUSE THERE'S MOW FINES TRYING TO CLEAN UP THE HOMELESS ENCAMPMENTS ON THE PROPERTY. I'M FAMILIAR WITH THE AREA. IT'S ONE OF COUNCILOR SANCHEZ'S OLD AREA. I THINK IT WAS YOURS ALSO AT ONE POINT BEFORE. THERE'S NOT A LOT OF BUILDINGS AROUND THERE THAT LOOK REAL FABULOUS TO BEGIN WITH. I WOULD LIKE TO -- SINCE SHE'S WORKING ON IT, OBVIOUSLY SHE'S COMING TO COME UP WITH THE RESOURCES. MAYBE DOESN'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO GET THE NECESSARY CAPITAL TO DO IT AT ONCE. IT SOUND LIKE SHE HAS BEEN TRYING TO MAKE PROGRESS AND HAVING SOME SUCCESS. I'D LIKE TO ASK FOR A DEFERRAL UNTIL THE LAST MEETING IN JUNE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS. >>COUN. DAVIS: THE MOTION IS THE 21st. IS THERE A SECOND? COUNCILOR BENTON HAS A SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION FOR DEFERRAL? >>COUN. BENTON: IF I CAN, JUST SO WE DON'T LEAVE THIS HANGING TOO MUCH. I WOULD REALLY RECOMMEND TALKING TO OUR OFFICE AND MAYBE WE CAN GET YOU WITH DESIGN PROFESSIONAL THAT CAN LOOK AT IT AND HAVE ANOTHER FORMAL PROPOSAL TO -- A COUNTER PROPOSAL, IF YOU WILL, FOR THE PLANNING DOORMENT -- DEPARTMENT. BUT I SUGGEST THAT INCLUDE NOT ONLY SECURING THE REMAINING STRUCTURE, IF IT'S DEEMED THAT YOU GET A SECOND OPINION THAT IT MIGHT SUGGEST THAT IT COULD BE SAVED. AND THEN TO SECURE THAT WITH THE FENCE. I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT A TWO AND A HALF ACRE PROPERTY IS GOING TO BE VERY HARD TO SECURE IN ITS ENTIRETY WITH THE FENCE. >>COUN. DAVIS: ANY OTHER DISCUSSION FOR THE DEFERRAL UNTIL JUNE 21st? SEEING NONE. WE'LL TAKE A MOTION ON THE MOTION FOR DEFERRAL. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. OPPOSED? 6-3. IS THAT RIGHT, MADAM CLERK? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF DEFERRAL SAY YES AND HOLD YOUR HAND. NOW WE'RE BACK. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? 6-3. WE'LL SEE YOU BACK ON THE 21st. THANK YOU, COUNCILORS. NEXT UP, COUNCILOR LEWIS. R-130. >>COUN. LEWIS: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. R-130 IS DECLARING AN INTERIM STAY OF ENFORCEMENT OF CERTAIN RESTRICTIONS IN THE ORDINANCE AS IT APPLIES TO FILM PRODUCTION. BE A TEMPORARY USE FOR FILM PRODUCTION. I MOVE A DO PASS. >>COUN. DAVIS: MOTION AND SECOND. COUNCILOR LEWIS, HOW DO YOU WANT TO PROCEED? >>COUN. LEWIS: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY PUBLIC SPEAKERS? >>COUN. DAVIS: I DON'T HAVE SPECIFIC PUBLIC SPEAKERS. >>COUN. LEWIS: MAYBE STAFF CAN GIVE AN INTRODUCTION AND BILL SUMMARY. >> SURE THING, MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR LEWIS, THIS IS A TWO-PART BILL THAT FIRST AND FOREMOST ISSUES A STAY OF ENFORCEMENT ON CERTAIN PROVISIONS RELATED TO THE ISSUANCE OF A TEMPORARY USE PERMIT. THE STAY OF ENFORCEMENT IS A APPLICABLE -- IT'S TELLING THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT TO NOT ENFORCE CERTAIN PROVISIONS FOR A LIMITED AMOUNT OF TIME FOR A SPECIFIC PURPOSE. THIS IS RELATED TO THE TEMPORARY USE PROVISIONS AS IT RELATES TO FILM PRODUCTION. RIGHT NOW, THE I.D.O. CONTEMPLATES FILM ON A PERMANENT BASIS ASSOCIATED WITH PERMANENT STRUCTURES BUT IT DOESN'T CONTEMPLATE A PRIMARY LAND USE WHERE FILM PRODUCTION WOULD HAPPEN ON A TEMERARY BASIS. THE CITY HAS BEEN APPROACHED FILM PRODUCTION INDUSTRY AND SAID THIS IS SOMEWHERE WHERE OR CODE IS LACKING. THE STAY OF ENFORCEMENT ISSU AN IMMEDIATE AND QUICK RESPONSE TO THAT. TO SAY WE'RE GOING TO STAY THE ENFORCEMENT OF A COUPLE OF RULES RELATED TO TEMPORARY USES. ONE IS THE TIME LIMIT. A TEMPORARY USE PERMIT WOULD HAVE A TIME REVICTION OF 45 DAYS, FILM PRODUCTION TYPICALLY NEED LONGER THAN THAT. THAT PORTION OF THE REGULATION WOULD BE STAYED. ADDITIONALLY THE ZONE DISTRICTS IN WHICH THIS TYPE OF TEMPORARY USE PERMIT WOULD BE ALLOWED WOULD ALSOBY STAYED. AND ALSO PARKING REGULATIONS RELATED TO THE PARKING OF HEAVY OR LARGE TRUCKS THAT OFTEN FILM PRODUCTIONS UTILIZE. THAT'S THE FIRST COMPONENT. THE SECOND DIRECTS COUNCIL STAFF TO DIRECT A PERMANENT RULE THIS COUNCIL CAN CONSIDER TO FIX THIS ON A PERMANENT BASIS SO WE DON'T HAVE A LONG-TERM STAY OF ENFORCEMENT. THAT'S GOING TO BE A PART OF THIS YEAR'S I.D. O. MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR LEWIS, I CAN ANSWER QUESTIONS ABOUT ZONING. AND DIRECTOR IS HERE FROM THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT IF THERE'S QUESTIONS OUTSIDE OF ZONING. >>COUN. LEWIS: MR. PRESIDENT, I WANT TO TEA -- TO SEE IF DIRECTOR HAS ANYTHING TO SAY ABOUT THIS. >>COUN. DAVIS: DIRECTOR, WELCOME. >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILORS, COUNCILOR LEWIS, THANK YOU. I'M WITH THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT. I URGE YOU TO SUPPORT THE BILL. AS YOU KNOW, THE FILM INDUSTRY IN THE STATE AND IN THE CITY IS A HUGE ECONOMIC DRIVER FOR US. EVERY DAY WE'RE COMPETING WITH ATLANTA AND VANCOUVER AND I'M VERY PROUD OF THE FILM STAFF BECAUSE WE'RE AT A POINT WHERE WE CAN GO HEAD TO HEAD WITH THOSE MORE ESTABLISHED FILM ECOSYSTEMS. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I THINK IS REALLY EXCITING BECAUSE IT MERGING THE NEED OF AN INDUSTRY WITH THE DESIRE OF PROPERTY OWNERS TO COME TOGETHER AND IN A TEMPORARY WAY ACTIVATE LOTS IN THE CITY FOR FILM. AGAIN, I THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION OF THIS PROSEAL. AS YOU CAN TELL I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT IT. I'M HAPPY TO STAND FOR QUESTIONS. >>COUN. DAVIS: WITH THAT. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: I JUST HAD A QUICK QUESTION ON THE LANGUAGE ON WHEN THIS EXPIRES. IT SAYS IT EXPIRES WITHIN ONE YEAR OR WHEN THIS YEAR'S I.D.O. PASSES, IF THIS PASSES SOON AND THIS ISN'T IN IT, THIS STAY ISN'T GOING TO BE A VERY LONG STAY. IS THAT CORRECT? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN YES. THE IDEA IS STAFF WOULD HAVE THIS READY IN TIME PRIOR TO WHEN THE COUNCIL TAKES FINAL ACTION ON O-23-77 WHICH IS THIS YEAR'S I.D.O. UPDATE BILL. THAT IS AN AMENDMENT THAT CAN BE CONSIDERED AS SOON AS JUNE 5. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: WE'RE NOT WORRIED -- I DON'T WANT TO STAY UNTIL JUNE 5th. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, YEAH, STAFF IS NOT CONCERNED ABOUT THE TIMELINES AS PROPOSED IN THE BILL BASED ON THE WISH OF THE SPONSOR TO GET A PERMANENT RULE IN PLACE. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU. >>COUN. DAVIS: STAFF IS FOUGHT -- IS NOT CONCERNED. >> CORRECT. I'M STAFF AND I'M NOT CORRECT. >>COUN. DAVIS: COUNCILOR LEWIS TO CLOSE. >>COUN. LEWIS: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I DON'T THINK I CAN SAY IT BETTER THAN THE DIRECTOR AND STAFF. THANK YOU, ALL. AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT. I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. DAVIS: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. OPPOSED? THAT MATTER CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU. LET'S SEE WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO WITH THIS. WE'LL TAKE THE REST OF THESE IN ORDER. COUNCILOR SANCHEZ AND COUNCILOR GROUT. P-1. RELATED TO R-131. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. COUNCILOR SANCHEZ AND COUNCILOR GROUT, P-1 ADOPTING A PROPOSITION TO BE SENT TO THE VOTERS AT THE 2023 REGULAR GENERAL ELECTION PROPOSED TO AMEND THE ALBUQUERQUE CITY CHARTER TO ADOPT A CITY MANAGER FORM OF GOVERNMENT. I MOVE A DO PASS AND TLOOZ A FLOOR SUB. >>COUN. DAVIS: YOUR CO-SPONSOR IS THE SECOND. THIS WILL BE A PROPOSED CHARTER AMENDMENT WHICH REQUIRES AT LEAST TWO PUBLIC HEARING. NO MATTER WHAT THIS IS THE FIRST OF TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS. WE'LL HAVE TO DEFER IT UNTIL A FUTURE MEETING DETERMINED BY THE SPONSORS. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THAT'S CORRECT. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. THIS FLOOR SUB IS TO GET IT ON THE BALLOT. OPPOSITION OR CONSENT TO THE VOTERS AND MAKE SURE WE AN ADOPT AN ALTERNATE FORM OF GOVERNMENT. AND I CAN DISCUSS IT MORE OR DO WE HAVE -- >>COUN. DAVIS: LET'S MOVE THE FLOOR SUB. LET'S DISCUSSION THE MOTION. ON THE PROCESS TO APPROVE THE FLOOR SUB. >>COUN. BASSAN: IT'S ONLY A COMMENT TO STAFF. PLEASE CHECK FOR GRAMATICAL ERRORS. THERE'S SPELLING MISHAPS. >>COUN. DAVIS: WE'LL TAKE THE VOTE ON THE MOTION. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE FLOOR SUBSTITUTE RAISE YOUR HAND AND SAY YES. ANY OPPOSED? COUNCILOR JONES IS A NO AND COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN IS A NO ON THE FLOOR SUB. THAT CARRIES 7-2. WE'RE ON THE BILL AS SUBSTITUTED BACK IN THE SPONSORS. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: I WOULD LIKE TO ACTUALLY START OUT THE CONVERSATION BY REFERRING TO MS. RONCILLO. >> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. THIS BILL PROPOSES TO SUBMIT A CITY CHARTER AMENDMENT QUESTION TO THE VOTERS. AT THE REGULAR LOCAL ELECTION ON NOVEMBER 7th OF THIS YEAR. IF APPROVED THIS CHARTER AMENDMENT WOULD CHANGE THE CITY'S FORM OF GOVERNMENT FROM THE CURRENT MAYOR-COUNCIL FORM TO A COUNCIL-MANAGER FORM WHICH WOULD CONSISTENT OF A GOVERNING BODY AND A PROFESSIONAL ADMINISTRAOR WHO WOULD FUNCTION AS CITY MANAGER AND CHIEF ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICER. THE PROPOSED COUNCIL MANAGER FORM WOULD STILL INCLUDE A ROLE FOR THE MAYOR. THE MAYOR IS INTEGRATED INTO THE COUNCIL AS THE PRESIING MEMBER WHO HAS A LIMITED DUTY AS OPPOSED TO BEING PART OF SEPARATE BRANCH OF GOVERNMENT. THIS WOULD CREATE THE CITY MANAGER POSITION AND REALLOCATE THOSE THAT PREVIOUSLY BELONGED TO THE MAYOR TO THE CITY MANAGER. >>COUN. DAVIS: NLSZ THERE'S -- WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT SPEAKER. WE'LL LET THEM COME AND LET IT GO TO THE SPONSORS. WE'LL BEGIN WITH MR. KREBS. GOOD TO SEE YOU, SIR. >> COUNCILOR DAVIS, COUNCILORS, I'M A PROFESSOR WITH POLITICAL SCIENCE AT UNM. I DO NOT SUPPORT THIS IDEA FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS. ONE, COUNCIL MANAGER SYSTEMS PLACE EXECUTIVE POWER IN THE HANDS OF AN ELECTED CITY MANAGER ANSWERABLE TO THE ENTIRE CITY COUNCIL. WE ALREADY HAVE A PROFESSIONAL CITY ADMINISTRAOR IN THE PERSON OF THE CAO ANSWERABLE TO THE MAYOR RECOGNIZED AS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE ADMINISTRATIVE FUNCTION OF CITY GOVERNMENT. THREE, OUR CITY REQUIRES A STRONG EXECUTIVE POLITICAL LEADER. OUR CITY IS LARGE AND COMPLICATED AS EVIDENCED BY THE TURNOUT TONIGHT. THE BENEFITS OF THE COUNCIL MANAGER SYSTEM DO NOT OUTWEIGH THE COST OF CHANING FROM OUR CURRENT SYSTEM WHICH ARE MAINLY ON THE VOTER ENGAGEMENT AND VOTER PARTICIPATION. MOST U.S. CITIES DO EMPLOY THE COUNCIL MANAGER SYSTEM. MOST CITIES OVER 50 14 USE THE COUNCIL MANAGER SYSTEM. WHILE ALL OTHERS EXCEPT FOR PORTLAND WHICH USES THE COMMISSION SYSTEM EMPLOY A MAYOR-COUNCIL FORM. FIVE OF THE 14 COUNCIL MANAGER CITIES ARE IN TEXAS, TWO IN ARIZONA, AND ONE IN CALIFORNIA. THE MOST IMPORTANT DIFFERENCE BETWEEN CITIES WITH COUNCIL MANAGER SYSTEM AND THOSE WITH MAYOR COUNCIL IS VOTER ENGAGEMENT. WITH COUNCIL MANAGEMENT LAGGING BEHIND COUNCIL CITY. THIS IS BECAUSE AN EXECUTIVE POWER IS NOT AN ELECTED OFFICIAL. IT'S AT ARM'S LENGTH FROM THE PUBLIC. WITH CITIES WITH THE LOWEST TURNOUT SEVEN OF EIGHT HAVE COUNCIL MANAGER SYSTEM. AUSTIN, OKLAHOMA CITY, SAN AN TON CROW, AND MINORITY VOTERS ARE OFTEN THE ONES WHO STAY HOME, HARMING THE REPRESENTATION AND POLICY RESPONSIVENESS FOR LOW INCOME COMMUNITIES. AT A TIME WHEN THE DEMOCRACY IS STRUGGLING, LET'S NOT CREATE MORE DISINCENTIVES FOR PEOPLE TO PARTICIPATE. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. WHAT I KNOW ABOUT GOVERNMENT? WELL, LET ME REFRESH. GO TO STATE OF NEW MEXICO. EVERY STATE IN THE UNITED STATES. AND GOVERNMENT HAS THREE BRANCHES RIGHT? YES. YOU HAVE TO SAY YES. WHAT WE HAVE HERE IN THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE TWO. NOW WHAT YOU TRY TO DO? MAKE IT ONE BRANCH. WELL THAT'S GOING TO BE MONEY FOR EVERY ONE OF YOU? YES, OF COURSE. WELL, LET'S SKIP IT. I REMEMBER WHEN JOSEPH STALIN DIED. WHEN I WAS IN GRADE SCHOOL. MY NATIVE COUNTRY POLAND STARED BECOING INSTEAD OF SOCIALISM, COMMUNISM. SOON I LEFT ARMY. I GOT JOB. NOW, NEW GOVERNMENT -- REVOLUTION IN THE EARLY 80s, WE HAVE PARLIAMENT ON THE TOP AND PREMIER. LIKE IN ENGLAND. WHERE WE'RE GOING HERE IS EXACTLY LIKE IN ENGLAND. EVERYWHERE YOU GO PUBLIC BUILDINGS ARE NAMED AND SO ON. WHERE ARE WE GOING HERE NOW? THANK YOU. >>COUN. DAVIS: YOU HAVE ZOOM SPEAKERS. >> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. FIRST WE HAVE MARA FOLLOWED BY ROSEMARY. >> HELLO, THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT. I WAS THE DEPUTY DIRECTOR FOR THE ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH DEPARTMENT AIR QUALITY PROGRAM FOR A COUPLE YEARS UNTIL 2022. I EXPERIENCED FIRST HAND THE DYSFUNCTION, MISMANAGEMENT AND LAKE -- LACK OF ACCOUNTABILITY IN THIS GOVERNMENT. THE MAYOR'S ADMINISTRATION CONSISTENTLY IGNORES EXPERT ADVICE AND I HAVE A FEW EXAMPLES. FOR BACKGROUND ON ME, I HAVE A MASTER'S IN PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION AND ENVIRONMENTAL SCIENCE FROM CLUMPY BU AND WORKING ON AIR QUALITY AND CLIMATE CHANGE. WHEN I WAS AT THE CITY I ALERTED THE SERIOUS IMPACTS OF GROUND LEVEL OZONE KNOWN AS SMOG. UNFORTUNATELY, THIS WASN'T A PRIORITY. OZONE AGGRAVATES LUNG DISEASES ESPECIALLY IN CHILDREN AND CAN EVEN CAUSE PREMATURE DEATH. BECAUSE I MY CAREER IS PUBLIC HEALTH I DID ALL I COULD REDUCE OZONE. A COUNCIL MANAGER COULD HAVE EMPOWERED ME TO DO MORE FASTER. AND URGED TO REGULATE GREENHOUSE GASSES UNDER THE CLEAN AIR ACT. THIS DID NOT HAPPEN. I RECORDED SALARY DISCRIMINATION BASED ON SEX. HARASSMENT OF FEMALE EMPLOYEES. POTENTIAL LEGAL MALPRACTICE AND THE IMPENDING BANKRUPTCY OF THE PROGRAM. ANGAL MARTINEZ WRONGFULLY TERMINATED MY POSITION. FOR THESE REASONS I SUPPORT A COUNCIL-MANAGER FORM OF GOVERNMENT. I BELIEVE IT WILL ADD OVERSIGHT AND ACCOUNTABILITY TO THE ADMINISTRATION. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> ROSEMARY FOLLOWED BY PEGGY. >> HELLO MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, COUNCILOR DAVIS, I WAS SHOCKED WHEN I SAW THESE TWO MEASURES ON THE AGENDA TO PUT OUT TO A VOTE A COUNCIL MANAGER AND AN HONORARY MAYOR GOVERNMENT. I COULDN'T REALLY UNDERSTAND WHY YOU WOULD EVEN KEEP THE MAYOR UNDER THE FORM YOU HAD SINCE THE MAYOR BASICALLY DOES NOTHING EXCEPT BREAK TIE VOTES. AND IF YOU HAVE AN UNEVENNEN ON THE COUNCIL YOU DON'T NEED TO WORRY ABOUT TIE VOTES. IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THIS PROPOSAL IS REALLY AS THE FIRST GENTLEMAN SAID, IT IS TRYING TO REMOVE ONE BRANCH OF GOVERNMENT FROM CITY GOVERNMENT IN ALBUQUERQUE. I'M NOT ALWAYS SATISFIED WITH WHAT THE MAYOR IS DOING BUT AT LEAST I GET TO VOTE FOR THE MAYOR. AND THE MAYOR I'M VOTING FOR GETS TO MANAGE AND OPERATE THE ADMINISTRATIVE SIDE OF THE CITY. AS MUCH AS I'VE BEEN VARIOUS THINGS THE MAYOR HAS DONE, I HAVE APPRECIATED THE FORWARD LOOK FROM THAT DEPARTMENT. FROM THAT BRANCH OF GOVERNMENT. AND FRANKLY, THE COUNCIL SEEMS ONLY ABLE TO STOP EACH OTHER FROM DOING THINGS. RATHER THAN REALLY MOVING FORWARD. WE MAY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH OUR EXECUTIVE, BUT I HAVEN'T SEEN IN THE COUNCIL THE SOLUTION TO THAT. AND THE MANAGER FORM SEEMS TO ME WOULD SIMPLY BE MOVING THE CITY TO BECOME EVEN MORE STATIC IN A TIME OF CHANGE WHEN WE NEED TO BE LOOKING TO THE FUTURE HAS TO DEVELOP THE CITY SO IT'S A PLACE FOR EVERYONE TO LIVE. THIS COMES RIGHT ON THE HEELS OF TRYING TO MINIMIZE THE RESOURCES AVAILABLE TO THE LESS OPPILANT IN OUR CITY. I DON'T THINK COUNCIL MANAGER IS GOING TO DO ANYTHING FOR THOSE MOST DISADVANTAGED IN THE CITY. IT'S NOT GOING TO MAKE AS BROAD-BASED COMMUNITY AS WE COULD BE BY WORKING ON IMPROVING WHAT WE'VE GOT. I HOPE YOU DON'T MAKE US LESS DEMOCRATIC THAN WE ARE. >> PEGGY. >> THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TONIGHT. I DID TRY TO SPEAK AT GENERAL COMMENT. MANY TIMES I'M NOT ABLE TO SPEAK BECAUSE FOR SOME REASON I CAN'T BE FOUND. I SIGNED UP TONIGHT TO SPEAK ON THREE THINGS. I'D LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ONE. I STAND AGAINST THIS AMENDMENT. I HAVE TO AGREE WITH MANY OF THE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN SAID ALREADY. GIVE YOU OPPORTUNITY FOR DIFFERENT THINGS INSTEAD OF THIS AMENDMENT YCH -- I SUGGEST WE CHANGE THE I.D. O. THIS ALLOWED DUCONIAN HOUSING CHANGES. I THINK THAT AMENDMENTS IN THE I.D.O. NEED TO BE RECOGNIZED AS AMENDMENTS AND THEY NEED DATA AND THEY NEED PUBLIC COMMENT AND THEY NEED THUROY VETTING BY OUR CITY FOR CITY WIDE CHANGES. WE'VE HEARD THAT ALL BEFORE. YOU CAN ALSO DRAFT AND PASS AN ORDINANCE WHERE CITY COUNCILLORS ARE REQUIRED TO REPRESENT THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS. GO TO DISTRICT COALITION MEETING AND PARTICIPATE IN DISCUSSIONS WITH THE NEIGHBORHOODS. YOU COULD ENHANCE NEIGHBORHOODS. YOU COULD CREATE A POSITIVE FLOW FOR INVOLVEMENT IN THE CITY. THEREFORE PROVIING OVERSIGHT FOR THE MAYOR'S OFFICE. I THINK YOU SHOULD STICK TO TASK FORCE RECOMMENDATION. IF YOU HAVE A TASK FORCE HAVE THE RECOMMENDATION BEING ENACTED. UNLESS THEY FALL AGAINST DIFFERENT MEASURES AND STANDARDS YOU CAN DRAFT AND PUT INTO PLACE. MAKING THE CHANGE AND TAKING AWAY THE DEMOCRATIC PROCESSES, WE SEE IT SO MUCH NZ MAYOR'S WORK I WONDER IF THE MAYOR IS NOT BEHIND DOING THIS. PERHAPS YOU NEED TO LOOK AT NOT ONLY STRENGTHENING DEMOCRATIC PROCESSES WITHIN THE MAYOR'S OFFICE BUT WITHIN THE CITY ITSELF. >> THAT CONCLUDES COMMENT ON P-23. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU. JUDGING BY THE CALLS I'VE GOTTEN FROM THE MAYOR, I DON'T THINK HE'S BEHIND THIS. I CAN BE WRONG. BACK TO THE COUNCILORS. COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: I THINK THERE'S A COUPLE MORE PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT HAD SIPED -- SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. >> WE HAVE TWO MORE SPEAKERS FOR R-23-131. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: GOT IT. >>COUN. DAVIS: SINCE BOTH OF THOSE ITEMS ARE RELATED, LET'S TAKE THOSE TOGETHER. THAT WAY THE COUNCIL CAN DISPOSE TOGETHER SINCE THEY'RE GOING TO BE DEFERRED. >> VERY GOOD. OUR FIRST SPEAKER IS JESSICA FOLLOWED BY ROSEMARY. >> FIRST OF ALL, I'D LIKE TO THANK THE COUNCIL FOR LISTENING TO MY WORDS. I LIKE TO SPECIFICALLY CALL OUT COUNCILOR GROUT AND COUNCILOR SANCHEZ FOR WORKING TOGETHER TO HOPEFULLY PUT ALBUQUERQUE ON A PATH TO PROGRESS WITH REGARD TO PROPOSAL OF THE RESTRUCTUING TO COUNCIL-CITY MANAGER FORM OF GOVERNMENT. LIFE-LONG RESIDENT OF ALBUQUERQUE I HAVE TO ADMIT I NEVER SEEN IT THIS BAD. MOST PEOPLE CAN AGREE. PEOPLE HAVE SEEN THE DECLINE. MUCH OCCURRED IN THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS. WHEN PEOPLE ASK WHY DON'T YOU MOVE, I'LL TELL YOU WHY, THE CITY IS FILLED WITH GOOD PEOPLE. MY FAMILY AND FRIENDS AND ALBUQUERQUE HAS AMAING UNTAPPED POTENTIAL. I KNOW THAT ALBUQUERQUE IS WORTH FIGHTING FOR AND I'M TIRED OF THE EXCUSES OF THE CURRENT MAY ANSWER THE ADMINISTRATION SAYING WELL THE ENTIRE COUNTRY HAS PROBLEMS. I DON'T CARE ABOUT WHAT'S GUESS ON IN GOING ON IN OTHER PLACES, I CARE ABOUT ALBUQUERQUE. THEY'RE TELLING ME I CAN'T MAKE THE CITY BETTER, JUST DEAL WITH IT. I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD BE OKAY WITH IT. IT'S LIKE BOILING A LOBSTER, IF YOU GET THE TEMPERATURE TURNED UP YOU GET USED TO FAILURE. MAYOR KELLER MAKES BAD DECISIONS. I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY LARRY BARKER REPORTS BEFORE THE MAYOR IS PUT IN CHECK. SIX MONTHS AGO THE JOURNAL POLL GAVE THE MAYOR A 32% APPROVAL RATING. I HOPE THE CITIZENS HAVE FINALLY RECOGNIZED HE'S THE WRONG PERSON TO RUN THE CITY. HE ERODED THE POSITION OF MAYOR AND IT'S TIME TO PIVOT. I RESPECTFULLY ASK YOU PUT THIS ON THE BALLOT SO THE CITIZENS AS A WHOLE CAN VOTE ON THIS AND MAKE REAL PROGRESS TOWARD FULFILLING THE POTENTIAL OF WHAT WE KNOW ALBUQUERQUE IS CAPABLE. >> MS. BLANCHERED, YOU'RE TECHNICALLY NEXT. I KNOW WE HEARD FROM YOU ON THIS MATTER. >> I THINK YOU HEARD FROM ME ON THIS MATTER ALREADY, MR. DAVIS. I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE ANOTHER TWO MINUTES BECAUSE YOU KNOW WHAT I THINK AND FEEL ON THIS. I THINK THERE ARE MANY THINGS THAT COULD BE IMPROVED ON THE CITY GOVERNMENT. I LIKE TO SEE THE COUNCIL WORK ON IMPROVING THE COUNCIL AND LOOK AND IMPROVING THE OFFICE OF MAYOR AND PROVIING MORE CHECKS AND BALANCES AND WAYS FOR PEOPLE TO BE ACCOUNTED FOR AND TO BECOME INVOLVED IN THIS CITY GOVERNMENT. I DON'T HAVE A HARD TIME FINDING PEOPLE WHO WORK IN THE CITY. I LOOK THEM UP AND I CALL THEM AND I MAKE APPOINTMENTS AND I SEE THEM. IT WORKS. I AM CONCERNED WITH US SHRINKING TO ONE BRANCH OF GOVERNMENT. I DON'T THINK -- I HAVEN'T SEEN THE COUNCIL DEALING WITH A LOT OF CRITICAL ISSUES HAD -- THAT SUCCESSFULLY EITHER. WE WEREN'T ABLE TO GIVE TENANTS THE RIGHT TO FIND OUT WHAT KIND OF FEES. THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THE MAYOR'S OFFICE DID. THAT'S SOMETHING THE COUNCIL MANAGED TO DO. I THINK WE NEED TO GET EACH OF OUR OWN HOUSES IN ORDER. AND THE CITY NEEDS TO TRUST DEMOCRACY ENOUGH TO TRY TO WORK TO MAKE IT WORK. LESS DEMOCRACY IS NOT GOING TO MAKE US A BETTER CITY. THAT'S ALL. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU. IS THAT ALL OF OUR SPEAKERS ON THIS BILL? >> YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: IS MS. NEFF STILL THERE? >> LET ME TAKE A LOOK. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU. >> MR. PRESIDENT, I DON'T SEE MS. NEFF. >>COUN. DAVIS: WE'LL SEE IF WE CAN GET HER ON TOP OF THE LIST SO WE CAN GET HER TO SPEAK ON THAT. WE'RE BACK ON THE BILL. I'M GOING TO GO TO THE SPONSORS JUST TO MENTION WHAT THEY'RE DOING. AND WE'LL SEE WHERE THIS DEBATE TAKES US. WE KNOW THIS GETS DEFERRED. I'M NOT TRYING TO GET DEFERRED OFF. YOU KNOW WE'RE NOT GOING TO EXTEND THIS ALL NIGHT AND WE DON'T HAVE THE WHOLE BUDGET. I HOPE BY NINE TO HIT THE BUDGET. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU, COUNCILOR GROUT. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE IS JUST ALL THE DIFFERENT COMMENTS. HOW IS THAT WORKING FOR YOU? CITIZENS OF ALBUQUERQUE. WE'RE SEEING THE MOST HOMICIDES WE'VE EVER HAD IN THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS. WE'VE SEEING A LOT OF THINGS THAT COULD BE CHANGED. US AS CITY COUNCILLORS ARE TIME AND TIME AGAIN VERY FRUSTRATED ABOUT HOW CERTAIN THINGS ARE HANDLED DURING THE ADMINISTRATION. WE TRY TO WORK WITH THE DRAEPGZ DAY IN AND DAY OUT. WE OFTENTIMES SEE THE ADMINISTRATION NOT WORKING BACK WITH US OR THE CITIZENS OF ALBUQUERQUE. WHEN WE'RE DEALING WITH THESE ISSUES, AND I KNOW FOR ME I'M SPEAKING FOR ME, AND FOR SOME OF THE OTHER COUNCILORS, WE HAVE GIVEN LISTS OF THINGS THAT OUR CONSTITCHANTS HAVE PASSED DOWN TO US AND STILL HAVE NOT BEEN TAKEN CARE OF. IF ANYBODY WANTS TO SEE MY LIST OF EMAILS SENT TO THE ADMINISTRATION, THERE'S PLENTY. THOSE ARE THE THINGS WE ARE SEEING THAT THEY'RE NOT TAKING CARE OF US. WE HEARD SOMEBODY TALK ABOUT THE AMOUNT OF MISMANAGEMENT, WE HEARD SOMEBODY ELSE TALK ABOUT -- AND WE HEARD BOTH SIDES OF THE STORY. HEARING BOTH SIDES OF THE STORY, WATT -- WHAT WE'RE DOING IS DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ON THE RIGHT PATH. IT LOOKS LIKE WE ARE. WE'RE GETTING THE DIALOGUE AND THIS INFORMATION. WHAT WE DEFINITELY NEED TO DO AS A COUNCIL IS GET THIS TO THE VOTERS. SO THE VOTERS CAN MAKE THE DECISION AND IN REFERENCE TO THIS. I THINK IT'S VERY, VERY IMPORTANT AND RESPONSIBLE FOR US HEARING BOTH SIDES OF THE ARGUMENTS THAT WE GET THIS BILL TO THE VOTERS. IT'S IMPERATIVE THAT EACH ONE OF US HERE VOTE TO GET THIS TO THE VOTERS BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE WE NEED TO GO. THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO. IF THE VOTERS TELL US WE NEED TO CHANGE THE GOVERNMENT, WE CHANGE IT. IF THE VOTERS TELL US NO, WE STAY WHERE WE'RE AT. WE STAY. IT'S OUR RESPONSIBILITY TOLIP TO THE VOTERS AS CITY COUNCILLORS IN THIS AREA. AND THAT, TO ME, IS THE BIGGEST TALKINGPOINT AND THE BIGGEST THING WE NEED TO FACE RIGHT NOW. AND LOOK AT WHAT IS GOING ON IN OUR CITY. WHEN YOU HAVE THIS CURRENT MAYOR'S FORM OF GOVERNMENT YOU HAVE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE COMING IN AND LEAVING. WE CAN'T EVEN SUCCEED AS A CITY TO GET ANYTHING DONE IN FOUR TO EIGHT YEARS THAT THIS FORM OF GOVERNMENT IS ACTUALLY IN PLACE. YOU CAN LOOK TO OTHER CITIZENS -- OTHER CITIES IN THE REGION, SPECIFICALLY PHOENIX. I HOPE EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THIS BUT IN THE 60s AND 70s WHEN WE WERE ACTUALLY FIGHTING TO BECOME THE ECONOMIC HUB OF THE SOUTHWEST, WE ALL KNOW WHERE THAT WENT. WE HAD ABUNDANCE OF GAS, OIL, WE HAD WATER, WE HAD NATIONAL BASE. WE HAD A NATIONAL LAB. WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN THE ECONOMIC DRIVER OF THE SOUTHWEST. IT SHOULD NOT HAVE GONE TO OUR SISTER CITY. THE DIFFERENCE, THE MAIN DIFFERENCE, WAS THE FACT WE HAD A STRONG MAYOR FORM OF GOVERNMENT AND THAT COULDN'T CONTINUE WITH PROCESSES THAT WERE PUT IN PLACE EARLY ON. AND CONTINUED TO DEVELOP THOSE PROCESSES AS WE MOVE FORWARD TO MAKE THE CITY BETTER. INSTEAD, WE'VE REMAINED IN A SITUATION WHERE EVERY SINGLE FOUR TO EIGHT YEARS, A WHOLE BRAND NEW WAY OF THINKING COMES IN. THAT'S WHY I SAY IT'S SO PARENT FOR THE CITIZENS TO MAKE THE DECISION ON WHAT WE'RE DOING IN ALBUQUERQUE. BECAUSE IT'S THE CITIZENS THAT VOTE EACH OF US INTO OFFICE. I URGE THAT IF YOU ARE LISTEN ING TO WHAT WE'RE TAKING ABOUT, I URGE THAT YOU ACTUALLY LISTEN TO YOUR CONSTITUENTS AND GIVE THEM THE OPPORTUNITY THEY DESERVE TO DETERMINE HOW THEY FEEL THEY NEED TO BE GOVERNED. THANK YOU. >>COUN. DAVIS: COUNCILOR GROUT. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I WANT TO MAKE THIS CLEAR, IT'S NOT ABOUT THE MAYOR. IT'S ABOUT THE MAYOR AND THE COUNCIL BEING MORE EFFICIENT. I THINK THAT'S WHAT IS LACKING. IT'S NOT JUST NOW, BUT IN THE PAST. LIKE COUNCILOR SANCHEZ SAID, WHEN A NEW MAYOR COMES IN THEY HIRE ALL NEW STAFF. DIRECTORS, A LOT OF THEM CAN BE POLITICAL APPOINTES, AND THEY MIGHT NOT BE THE BEST FOR THE JOB. AND WE NEED TO BE HAVING ACCOUNTABILITY. WE NEED TO HAVE EFFICIENCY. WE NEED TO HAVE TRANSPARENCY. I THINK THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT. IF A MAYOR COMES IN AND DOESN'T LIKE THINGS THAT WERE DONE BEFORE, HE OR SHE WILL STOP THAT PROCESS, HIRE SOMEBODY NEW, AND THEN THEY START ALL OVER. WE DON'T GROW. SOME OF THE THINGS IN THE PAST WEREN'T SO GOOD. I CAN SEE A REASON FOR SOME CHANGE. OFTENTIMES THINGS ARE VERY GOOD. ONE THING IN PARTICULAR, I'LL POINT OUT, I CAN DO A COUPLE OF THINGS, ACTUALLY, THE DIRECTOR FOR ACS. I REALLY DO LIKE THIS PROGRAM. I THINK IT'S A GREAT PROGRAM. I THINK IT NEEDS SOME TWEAKING A LITTLE BIT. I THINK THEY'RE WORKING ON IT. THEY'RE VERY YOUNG. I KNOW THEY'RE GOING TO DO BETTER. BUT THE DIRECTOR SAID I DON'T KNOW IF THE NEXT MAYOR IS GOING TO LIKE THIS JOB AND WE MIGHT BE BOOTED. I DON'T KNOW THAT'S PUTTING AN AWFUL LOT OF MONEY INTO THAT PROGRAM. AND LOT OF EFFORT. I WOULD HATE FOR THE NEXT MAYOR TO THINK I DON'T LIKE THIS PROGRAM WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO IT ANYMORE. AND IT'S NOT ABOUT POLITICS. TO ME. IT'S ABOUT GROWING THE RIGHT DIRECTION. AND THEN THE SAWMILL DISTRICT. I THINK THE RAIL TRAIL IS A WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR CITY TO HAVE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND TOURISM. AND I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA. AND THE MAYOR EVEN SAID IF THE NEXT MAYOR DOESN'T LIKE IT BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO TAKE LONG TIME TO DEVELOP. HE SAID HOPEFULLY THE NEXT MAYOR WILL LIKE IT. THERE'S ALWAYS THE POSSIBILITY THE NEXT MAYOR WON'T LIKE IT. AND INSTEAD OF -- I WANT TO TAKE POLITICS OUT OF WHAT WE'RE DOING. AND DOING WHAT'S BEST FOR THE CITIZENS. WHEN YOU LOOK AROUND AT THE CITY'S AROUND US THAT DO HAVE THE COUNCIL-MANAGER FORM OF GOVERNMENT THE MANAGER IS RESPONSIBLE FOR FINDING THE BEST DIRECTORS. WE HAVE GREAT DIRECTORS. I'M NOT SPECIFICALLY TALKING ABOUT ANYBODY. THERE'S ALWAYS THAT POSSIBILITY THAT THEY ALSO NEED TO BE ACCOUNTABLE. AND THE MANAGER NEEDS TO BE ACCOUNTABLE. AND I THINK WITH THIS COUNCIL MANAGER FORM OF GOVERNMENT I THINK THERE WILL BE A LOT MORE ACCOUNTABILITY. I THINK THAT WE CAN MOVE FORWARD BETTER. WE WILL BE AS A COUNCIL WE WILL LISTEN TO CONSTITUENTS BETTER. I THINK THE MAYOR WILL LISTEN TO CONSTITUENTS BETTER. I WANT TO MAYOR TO STILL REPRESENT THE CITY AND BE THE LEADER. BE UP HERE AND CREAING THE AGENDA. AND SETTING THE COMMITTEE APPOINTMENTS. AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS. SO HE OR SHE IS VERY MUCH PART OF THE PROCESS. IF THE VOTERS -- WE NEED TO LISTEN TO THE VOTERS. IF THEY DON'T LIKE IT, WE DON'T CHANGE. IF THEY DO, LET'S MAKE CHANGES. ALSO BACK IN THE DAY, WE DID HAVE A COMMISSIONED FORM OF GOVERNMENT. THERE WAS THREE COMMISSIONERS, THIS WAS BACK IN THE 70s. AND THERE WAS THREE COMMISSIONERS. THERE WERE NOT COUNCILLORS. WE DIDN'T HAVE THE DIFFERENT DISTRICTED APPOINTED. I THINK THIS WOULD BE DIFFERENT. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE COMMUNITIES AROUND US, THERE'S VERY SUCCESSFUL AND -- I JUST HOPE FOR OUR FUTURE, FOR OUR CHILDREN'S FUTURE, I THINK IT'S -- IT COULD VERY WELL BE A GOOD POSSIBILITY. AGAIN, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE CITIES AROUND US THEY'RE THRIVING. THEY'RE PROSPERING. THEY'RE GROWING. THOSE ARE MY FIRST THOUGHTS. >>COUN. DAVIS: LET'S GO TO COUNCILORS WITH QUESTIONS. COUNCILOR LEWIS, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY? GO AHEAD. >>COUN. LEWIS: I HAD A QUESTION FOR THE STAFF. AT WHAT POINT IS THE LANGUAGE -- WHERE IS THE LANGUAGE IN THE BILL THAT IS THE BALLOT? I'M SEEING ON PAGE TWO WHERE IT STARTS WITH THE PROPOSAL. IS THAT ESSENTIALLY THE BALLOT LANGUAGE? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR LEWIS, THE LANGUAGE THAT WOULD BE PUT ON THE BALLOT SHOULD THIS PROPOSITION BE APPROVED IS IN R-131. THAT IS CONTAINED IN THE OTHER BILL. >>COUN. LEWIS: OKAY. IN THIS BILL IT'S NOT ON THIS? OKAY, THAT'S WHY THERE'S TWO BILLS. >> RIGHT, MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR LEWIS, THE PROPOSITION INCLUDES A VERY LONG FULL TEXT OF WHAT THE AMENDMENT WOULD BE. AND THE RESOLUTION IS CONDENSED SO IT WOULD FIT ON THE BALLOT. >>COUN. LEWIS: OKAY. JUST ON PAGE 12, IF YOU LOOK AT PAGE 13, LINE ONE, IF YOU LOOK AT PAGE 13, LINE 1. ON THE FLOOR SUB. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR LEWIS, THAT PARTICULAR SECTION OF THE CHARTER, THE BILL YOU'RE LOOKING AT REFERENCES RENUMBERING OF THE SECTION. IT IS, I GUESS, COULD BE CHARACTERIZED AS ODD LANGUAGE. BUT IT WAS PUT THERE THROUGH A BALLOT INITIATIVE. AN ISSUE OF THE DAY BEING PERFORMING ARTS CENTER THAT THE VOTERS WANTED TO RESTRICT THE VIT FROM ACTING UPON. THIS BILL WOULD NOT AFFECT THAT PARTICULAR SECTION OTHER THAN RECOGNIZE THAT IT WOULD NEED TO BE RENUMBERED. >>COUN. LEWIS: OKAY. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I'VE HAD A COUPLE OF CONVERSATIONS WITH -- MANY, MANY CONVERSATIONS WITH CONSTITUENTS. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE A FEW THINGS CLEAR AND ASK MS. RONCILLO. THIS IS NOT A REFERENDUM ON THE CURRENT MAYOR. THE MAYOR WILL FINISH HIS TERM AND THE CHANGE WOULD TAKE PLACE. I'VE HEARD A LOT OF COMMENTS THAT ARE UPSET ABOUT THE CURRENT MAYOR. I JUST WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT THERE WAS A REFERENDUM ON THE MAYOR ABOUT A YEAR AND HALF AGO AND HE WON REELECTION. THIS IS ABOUT WHAT'S THE BEST FORM OF GOVERNMENT FOR THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE. NOT ABOUT THE CURRENT MAYOR. I'M STILL REACHING OUT TO FOLKS AND OTHER CITIES AND HAVING THE CONVERSATIONS, AGAIN IT'S NOT ABOUT ONE MAYOR. IT'S ABOUT WHAT FORM OF GOVERNMENT REALLY WORK FOR ALBUQUERQUE. WHAT HAS THE BEST CHECKS AND BALANCES. WHAT WILL GET US WHAT ALL OF THE VOTERS WANT WHICH IS A THRIVING COMMUNITY. >>COUN. DAVIS: I SEE THE CLOCK APPROACHING MY OWN TIMELINE. LET ME ADD, I AGREE WITH COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. WE HAVE TO BE CLEAR WHAT THIS IS AND WHAT IT'S NOT. I WANT TO -- I REALIZE SOME PEOPLE WANT TO ASIDELINE POLITICAL AGENDAS. WE CAN'T MAKE A DECISION LIKE THIS IN JUST A COUPLE WEEKS. I'M GLAD THE CHARTER REQUIRES TO HAVE A COUPLE HEARINGS TO GET MORE INPUT. THOUGHTWIT REMINDS ME OF IS THERE'S DEADLINES OF GETTING THINGS ON THE BALLOT. SOMEBODY IS POINTING AT THE TV. MR. CLERK, WHAT GOOD TIMING YOU HAVE. IT'S AS IF WE PLANNED THIS. MR. WATSON, WHAT IS THE SCHEDULE THIS COUNCIL CAN PASS SOMETHING TO ENSURE IT GETS ON THE BALLOT WITHOUT HAVING TO GO TO THE COURT AND ARGUE WITH THE COUNTY? >> THANK YOU, IS THE COUNCIL ABLE TO HEAR ME? >> YES, WE CAN HEAR YOU. >> I NEED TO FILE RESOLUTION ON BALLOT MEASURES 70 DAYS BEFORE THE ELECTION WHICH IS AUGUST 29. BECAUSE THERE'S THREE ELECTION RESOLUTIONS THAT THE COUNCIL NEEDS TO PASS I WOULD ENCOURAGE THE COUNCIL TO DO THIS BEFORE THE JULY BREAK. WE HAVE THE ELECTION RESOLUTION, BOND RESOLUTION, POTENTIALLY THIS ONE WHICH IS A LOT. THE VERY LAST DAY POSSIBLE WOULD BE THE 29th. THERE'S A LOT THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN BEFORE IT GETS TO THE COUNTY. EARIER IS BETTER. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU, MR. WATSON. THAT REMINDS US, THERE'S CONVERSATION, I'M NOT OPPOSED TO IT. DEPENDING ON WHERE THE SPONSORS WANT TO GO. I WANT TO UNDERSTAND THE DANGER OF THAT. WHETHER YOU'RE FOR IT OR AGAINST IT. THAT'S THE DEADLINE WE'RE ON. AND WE'RE STUCK WITH THAT. WE CAN PASS THIS IN OCTOBER BUT IT'S NOT GETTING ON THE BALLOT. WE HAVE TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION. LET ME SAY THIS, I THINK IT'S NO SECRET THAT MAYOR AND COUNCIL HAS AN ADVERSEAIRARILY THIS IS ANOTHER OPTION, I THINK THIS MIGHT SOLVE A LOT OF CHALLENGES WE HAVE, BUT VOTERS CREATED THIS LIKE THIS ON PURPOSE. WE HAD TO GET THE MOST IDEAS PEOPLE CAN GET BEHIND AND I THINK A LOT OF CHALLENGES ARE LESS ABOUT THE FIGHTS BETWEEN ADMINISTRATION AND COUNCIL AND ABOUT THE OVERSIGHT BY THE INDEPENDENT AGENCIES THAT KEEP US ALL ACCOUNTABLE TO EACH OTHER FOR OUR RULES. BUT, I THINK THIS MAKES A LOT OF SENSE IN A LOT OF WAYS. I DO THING WE WOULD HAVE DONE MORE HOUSING HAD WE HAD THE MAYOR SITTING IN THIS ROOM NEGOTIATING ON HOW MUCH MONEY TO SPEND AND WHAT ORDER. WITH NO PARTICULAR PERSON IN MIND, IF THERE'S A DIRECTOR RESPONSIBLE FOR HOUSING AND THEY HAVE TO ACCOUNT FOR HOFT ALL OF THE COUNCIL AND I THINK THERE'S A LITTLE MORE -- WE HAVE SEEN IN OTHER GOVERNMENTS THAT THERE'S MORE COOPERATION. AND NEVERTHELESS ADVUSARY GOT-YOU MOMENTS. THIS IS NOT EASY. AND YOU CAN'T HAVE NINE MAYORS. THAT'S EVEN WORSE. I'M NOT SURE WHAT I THINK ABOUT THIS. WHAT I KNOW IS WE GET ANOTHER BITE AT THE APPLE. I WANT TO ASK THE SPONSORS WHEN THEY WANT TO DO THIS. I SEE COUNCILOR BENTON AND COUNCILOR PEÑA HAVE A QUICK FOLLOW UP. AND WE'RE GOING TO GO TO THE SPONSORS TO ASK WHEN THEY WANT TO DEFER THIS. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. YEAH, I MEAN I APPRECIATE THE DISCUSSION. AND IT'S AN IMPORTANT DISCUSSION. AND IT'S GOOD FOOD FOR THOUGHT ABOUT WHERE WE OUGHT TO BE GOING. I WOULD VENTURE TO GUESS THAT WHEN PETE DOMENICI CHANGED THE FORM OF GOVERNMENT BACK IN THE EARLY 70s THAT THERE WAS A FAIR AMOUNT OF WRANGLING AND DISCUSSION ABOUT HOW THE NEW FORM OF GOVERNMENT WAS GOING TO LOOK. AND THEN I RECALL THAT AT Y2K, THE TURN OF THE CENTURY, AS WE OLD TIMERS CALL IT, THERE WAS QUITE A BIT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT A CONSOLIDATED METRO GOVERNMENT FOR BERNALILLO COUNTY. IT WAS A SERIOUS DISCUSSION AND THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION. AND I THINK THESE ARE HEALTHY DISCUSSIONS. I CAN'T ARGUE WITH THE FACT THAT WHENEVER A NEW MAYOR CAME IN, THERE WAS AN UPSET APPLE CART. AND A LOT OF THINGS GOT LEFT BEHIND IN THE APPLE CART THAT WAS THROWN OFF THE ROAD. AND I THINK THAT'S AN INHERENT THING THAT HAPPENS. THERE'S A NEW LOGO ON THE CARS. AND THERE'S A NEW SHERIFF IN TOWN. OR MAYOR IN TOWN. SO, I -- YOU KNOW, SOME SUGGESTIONS HAVE BEEN MADE. SHOULD WE HAVE SOME SORT OF JOINT BODY BETWEEN THE ADMINISTRATION AND THE COUNCIL TO HAVE SOME DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THIS MORE? BUT, I CAN'T SAY THAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE MOTIVATION TO BRING THIS FORWARD. BECAUSE IT'S PAINFUL SOMETIMES. LET'S FACE IT, WE'VE HAD MAJOR TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS PROPOSED. AND I'M NOT GOING TO EVEN NAME WHICH ONES THEY WERE. IT MAY NOT BE THE ONES PEOPLE ARE THING ABOUT THAT BEGINS WITH "A." THERE WERE PRIOR ONES. AND ANOTHER MAYOR CAME IN AND ANOTHER THING HAPPENED. AND WE'VE HAD ACTIONS OF THE COUNCIL WHERE, LET'S JUST SAY, LIKE ON ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT MATTER, WHERE UNDER THE PREVIOUS MAYOR COUNCIL VOTED 8-1 TO DO SOMETHING AND THE NEW MAYOR COMES IN AND SAYS WE WANT TO GET RID OF THAT. THAT'S A PROBLEM. STHAETS A THAT'S A STRUCTURAL HICCUP, THAT'S A BIG HICCUP THAT HAPPENS. THESE ARE THINGS WE ALL OUGHT TO BE THING ABOUT. AND I'VE ALWAYS BEEN A DEFENDER OF THE COUNCIL AND THE AUTHORITY AND CHECKING. BUT IT'S LIMITED. IT'S UNDERSTANDABLE THAT PEOPLE FEEL LIKE THERE'S SOMETHING WE CAN DO BETTER. I PERSONALLY DON'T KNOW WHETHER THIS IS IT. I'M NOT CONVINCED. I THINK LET'S ALL TALK AMONG OURSELVES BECAUSE I THINK THE COUNCIL IS WIDELY REPRESENTED WITH DIFFERENT INTEREST GROUPS IN THE CITY. THAT'S THE IDEA. I DON'T KNOW. I WAS INTERESTED PROFESSOR KREBS AND MORE DISCUSSIONS IN WHAT HE'S SEEN IN OTHER CITIES THAT DO HAVE MORE OF THIS FORM OF GOVERNMENT BUT MAYBE COMBINED WITH A MECH ROW -- METRO APPROACH. WHAT HAVE I SOLVED? I'M JUST MUSING ON WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. IT'S A VERY IMPORTANT SUBJECT. I APPRECIATE IT. >>COUN. DAVIS: COUNCILOR PEÑA. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. YEAH, ALL THESE CONVERSATIONS ARE VERY HEALTHY CONVERSATIONS. I KNOW THAT COUNCILOR GROUT TALKED TO ME WHEN SHE WAS CONSIDERING PUTTING THIS FORWARD. I'VE BEEN JUST ON COUNCIL, I'M STARTING MY THIRD TERM. I GUESS I'M A YEAR INTO IT. DOING THE COMMUNITY WORK FOR 30-PLUS YEARS. YOU SEE SO MANY CHANGES. YOU SEE GOOD MAYORS, BAD MAYORS. WORKING WITH THE COUNTY THEY HAVE THAT TYPE OF STRUCTURE. IA CAN SEE THE PROS AND CONS TO BOTH. IT'S A DIFFICULT CONVERSATION TO BE HAD. I THINK IT'S ONE TO AT LEAST HAVE IT. I THINK COUNCILOR BENTON TALKED ABOUT CONSOLIDATION, I THINK THAT'S A CONVERSATION THAT NEEDS TO BE HAD. IF THIS PASSES OR DOESN'T PASS, I THINK WORKING WITH THE COUNTY THROUGHOUT THE YEARS AND JUST SEEING HOW THERE'S OTHER DISTRICTS, IN DISTRICT THREE YOU HAVE ONE SIDE OF THE STREET THAT'S CITY AND ONE SIDE THAT'S COUNTY. WE HAVE OUR PROPERTY TAXES THAT COME OUT OF THE COUNTY AND SOME OF THE DISCUSSIONS WITH THE MONEY FOR BEHAVIORAL HEALTH TAX WE CAN'T SPEND IT BUT IT'S COMING FROM SOME OF THE CITIZENS IN ALBUQUERQUE. THY THE DECISION OF THE COUNTY. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT APD AND THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT WE SHOULD ALSO INTEREST -- HAVE THE CONVERSATION ABOUT CONSOLIDATION. >>COUN. DAVIS: ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS MATTER? IF NOT, WE'LL GOING TO GO FOR A MOTION FOR DEFERRAL. >>COUN. LEWIS: I SUGGEST THAT WE NOT WAIT TOO LONG. WE CONTINUE TO HAVE THE DISCUSSION. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THE COUNCIL -- WE SHOULD GO LINE BY LINE. WE SHOULD HAVE REALLY IN-DEPTH DISCUSSION AND HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC. I DON'T SEE A REASON TO DELAY IT BEYOND WHAT IT NEEDS TO BE. AND EVEN I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM SOME OTHER CITIES AND MAYBE SOME CONSULTANTS OR EXPERTS THAT MIGHT TALK ABOUT OTHER CITIES THAT HAVE MADE THE TRANSITION TO THE FORM OF GOVERNMENT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW TO THE FORM OF GOVERNMENT. I LIKE THIS DISCUSSION. I LIKE THE DISCUSSION ABOUT THE COUNTY-CITY MERGING. I LIKE THE DISCUSSION OF A NEW WEST SIDE CITY. ALBUQUERQUE WEST. JUST KIDDING. BETTER KNOWN AS DISTRICT FIVE. I'M KIDDING. THESE ARE -- IT BOILS DOWN TO HOW WE WANT TO GOVERN OURSELVES AND HOW WE BEST THINK CITY GOVERNMENT CAN PROVIDE THE BEST RETURN TO THE TAXPAYER. ON THEIR TAX DOLLAR. CERTAINLY THINK THIS DISCUSSION HAS MERIT. I THINK WE SHOULDIREN OUT -- IRON OUT THE DETAILS. I THINK THE NEXT RESOLUTION IS CRITICAL THAT WE GET THE WORDING RIGHT. AND RIGHT SIZE FONT. ALL THOSE THINGS NEED TO BE WORKED OUT. I DON'T SEE A REASON TO DELAY MORE THAN IT NEEDS TO. >>COUN. GROUT: MR. PRESIDENT, I MOVE A DEFERRAL UNTIL JUNE 5th. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: SECOND. >>COUN. DAVIS: ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF DEFERRAL TO JUNE 5th ON THE COMMITTEE SUB. THAT LOOKS UNANIMOUS. WE HAVE DISCUSSED THIS ALREADY. NOW WE'RE ON R-131. SOMEBODY MOTION. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: WE CAN DO THE SAME THING WITH THIS. I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE SHOULD DO. WE'LL DO THE SAME THING. MOTION TO DEFER TO JUNE 5th. >>COUN. DAVIS: I THINK YOU WANT TO DO A FLOOR DO PASS AND SUB. WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE SUB? IF THE CLERK IS READY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. WE'RE BACK ON THE BILL SUBSTITUTED. TO THE SPONSORS. >>COUN. GROUT: MOVE DEFERRAL UNTIL JUNE 5th. >>COUN. DAVIS: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES. RAISE YOUR HAND, PLEASE. WE'RE GOOD. THAT'S UNANIMOUS. THIS IS THE END OF THE EVENING WHEN WE START TO GET FAST AND I MOVE FAST AND WE MISS VOTES. TRYING TO SLOW US DOWN A LITTLE BIT. HERE'S THE BIG TICKET. COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: R-122 COMMITTEE SUBSTITUTE ESTABLISHING ONE-YEAR OBJECTIVES FOR THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE TO MEET FIVE-YEAR GOALS. I MOVE A DO PASS. SDMRD MOTION . >>COUN. DAVIS: MOTION AND SECOND FROM COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. COUNCILOR BASSAN BACK ON THE BILL. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, I DEFER TO YOU ON WHICH AMENDMENT YOU WANT TO CALL FIRST. IF YOU WANT TO GO ON THE PACKET, THERE'S FIVE THAT I KNOW OF. >>ED ED ED ED ED ED ED ED ED ED ED ED ED ED . >>COUN. DAVIS: WE DON'T HAVE ANY SPEAKERS? WE HAVE SEVERAL ON THE BILL ITSELF? OKAY. GREAT. JUST CHECKING. AMENDMENT A. COUNCILOR BENTON TRANSIT. I'M SORRY -- I'M SORRY. WE CAN'T HEAR YOU. >> DISREGARD. >>COUN. DAVIS: OKAY. COUNCILOR BENTON. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. >>COUN. DAVIS: FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE. >>COUN. BENTON: I MOVE FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE. THIS IS UNDER HUMAN AND FAMILY DEVELOPMENT GOAL. ON PAGE TWO OBJECTIVE EIGHT LINE 20 THROUGH 21 REVISE THE LAST SENTENCE TO READ NEW NETWORK CONCEPT DECISION TO BE COMPLETED AND REPORTED BY THE END OF THE SECOND QUARTER OF FY24. THIS IS A TRANSIT OBJECTIVE. AND THE TRANSIT DEPARTMENT IS WORKING ON NEW NETWORK CONCEPTS, AS YOU KNOW. THIS IS REALLY SETTING AN END OF THE -- HALFWAY THROUGH THE 24 ORDER FOR THEM TO REPORT ON A RECOMMENDATION FOR A NEW ROUTE SYSTEM. >>COUN. DAVIS: MOTION FROM COUNCILOR BENTON AND SECOND FROM COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. BE SURE THE CLERK CATCHES UP. I THINK WE'RE MOVING FASTER THAN EVERYBODY ELSE. WE'RE GOOD? ANYTHING FROM THE ADMINISTRATION? HE SAYS NO. COUNCILORS, ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE? THAT IS UNANIMOUS. 9-0. COUNCILOR BENTON, YOU HAVE AMENDMENT B WHICH WE'LL CALL AMENDMENT TWO. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU. AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO TO COMMITTEE SUB, THIS IS A FAMILY AND COMMUNITY SERVICES OBJECTIVE. AND THIS IS PROPOING TO DO A CLASSROOM AND WORKSHOP SPACE AT THE WEST SIDE SHELTER. THIS WOULD ADD LANGUAGE THAT SAYS TO PROVIDE SOME OUTDOOR SHADED SEATING AREAS FOR THE CLIENTS AS WELL. I REALLY ORIGINALLY READ WRITTEN WITH EXPANSIVE USE OF THE RIO GRANDE VALLEY FROM THE SHELTER. ALL KIDDING ASIDE, THEY'RE PRETTY NICE. OBVIOUSLY, WE WANT TO MAKE IT A WELCOING PLACE FOR ANYONE INTERESTED AND ACTUALLY STAYING AT THE WEST SIDE SHELTER. I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. DAVIS: THAT'S AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO. WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR GROUT. ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM COUNCILORS? ANYTHING FROM THE ADMINISTRATION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES. ANY OPPOSED? THAT MATTER CARRIES. NEXT UP IS AMENDMENT C. FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER THREE. THIS IS MINE BY DEFAULT. COUNCILORS WILL REMEMBER THIS IS OBJECTIVE TO LET APD LEGAL AND STAFF TWEAK THIS LANGUAGE TO COMPLY WITH THE CASA. THIS RELATES TO SERVICE TRAINING TO RELATED TO THE CASA. I MOVE A DO PASS ON FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER THREE. SECOND FROM COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. I KNOW MR. SYLVAN AND DC LOW, AND I WANT TO ASK IF LEGAL IS OKAY WITH THIS LANGUAGE IJTERMS OF CASA. >> YES, I REVIEWED THIS TO MAKE SURE IT'S ACCURATE. >>COUN. DAVIS: COUNCILOR BASSAN, THIS IS A MODIFICATION, BUT YOU'RE OKAY WITH HAT? >>COUN. BASSAN: YES, MR. PRESIDENT. >>COUN. DAVIS: ANY QUESTIONS? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. 9-0. MOVING ON. COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, I'D LIKE TO MOVE AMENDMENT NUMBER FOUR, THIS IS ADDING AN OBJECTIVE OFFICE OF EQUITY AND INCLUSION SHALL ESTABLISH PERFORMANCE MEASUREMENTS. SHOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH OEI TO INCREASE LOCAL PURCHASING, AND DOING BUSINESS WITH PEOPLE BUSINESSES AND -- SHALL PROVIDE THE ATTRIBUTES AND MEASUREMENTS BY FIRST QUARTER FISCAL YEAR 24. AND PROVIDE QUARTERLY UPDATES TO THE CITY COUNCIL GOING FORWARD. >>COUN. DAVIS: SECOND FROM COUNCILOR GROUT. ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS AMENDMENT? ANYTHING FROM THE ADMINISTRATION? SEEING NOTHING FROM THE ADMINISTRATION. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. AMENDMENT FOUR PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. MOVING TO AMENDMENT FIVE. WE'RE BACK TO COUNCILOR BENTON. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER FIVE, FIRST DESCRIBE WHAT IT IS. FIRE STATION FOUR IS THE ONE RIGHT NEXT TO CORONADO PARK. THE ADMINISTRATION DECIDED A COUPLE YEARS BACK, ORE A YEAR AGO, TO CLOSE CORONADO PARK. SINCE THEN, RATHER RAPIDLY MOVING PLAN DEVELOPMENT DEVELOPED TO EXPAND THE FIRE STATION FACILITY ADJACENT TO CORONADO PARK. THAT'S ONE OF THE OLDER STATIONS. IT NEEDS AN UPDATE. BUT ALSO TO INCLUDE A TRAINING FACILITY WHICH WILL USE UP QUITE A BIT OF REAL ESTATE OF THE OLD CORONADO PARK. I'M IN DISCUSSION WITH THE WELLS PARK NEIGHBORHOOD. AND THEY'RE LOSING A PARK. AND OTHER NEIGHBORS IN THE IMMEDIATE AREA ARE OPPOING THE WAY THINGS ARE GOING RIGHT NOW. THE PLAN I'VE SEEN WITH THE FIRE FACILITIES HAVE SOME VEJJIES GROWING AROUND THE PERIMETER OF THE BUILDING. IT DOESN'T REALLY LOOK TO ME LIKE A PARK. THIS IS A MORE SPECIFIC DESCRIPTION OF AN HALF ACRE PARK THAT'S RUFFY A HALF OF THE A CITY BLOCK. I WANTED TO GAUGE THAT ON THE STANDARD CITY BLOCK THAT YOU SEE IN THE OLDER PARTS OF THE CITY. IT'S ROUGHLY THAT SIZE. TO HAVE SOMETHING OF SOME SUBSTANCE AND THAT BE DEVELOPED ALONG WITH THIS FIRE FACILITY. SO, THE OBJECTIVE READS ON PAGE THREE AFTER LINE FOUR, OBJECTIVE FIVE IN COOPERATION WITH PARKS AND RECERATION DESIGN AND CONSTRUCT AN URBAN PUBLIC PARK AS PART OF THE CONSTRUCTION OR RECONSTRUCTION OF STATION FOUR. IF NECESSARY, TO ACCOMPLISH THIS AND MEET TRAINING FACILITY STANDARDS, PURCHASE PROPERTY ADJOINING OR ADDITIONAL FACILITIES FROM THE PARK. AND RENUMBER SUBSEQUENT OBJECTIVES AS NECESSARY. >>COUN. DAVIS: IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND FROM COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. BEFORE WE GO WE HAVE COUNCILOR SANCHEZ QUICKLY AND GO TO THE ADMINISTRATION. LET ME GET COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I WANT TO ASK THE ADMINISTRATION WHAT KIND OF PARK IS GOING TO BE PUT ON THIS SURFACE AND ALSO WHAT IS THE TRAINING FACILITY THAT WE NEED? DON'T WE HAVE A TRAINING FACILITY FOR AFR AT THIS POINT? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, LET ME ASK OUR FIRE CHIEF TO COME IN AND DESCRIBE TO YOU WHAT THIS TRAINING FACILITY IS ABOUT. AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE PARK PORTION OF IT. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: QUICK QUESTION AS WELL, DO WE PUT THE TRAIN BACK WHERE IT BELONGS? SO THE TRAIN DOES MOVE NOW? NICE. THAT'S SOMETHING I'D LIKE TO SEE IF THERE'S A WAY TO MOVE THERE OR MOVE IT BACK, THAT WOULD BE AWESOME. >>COUN. DAVIS: CHIEF, WHAT DO YOU KNOW ABOUT TRAINS? >> COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, SO THE PLAN FOR THE PROPERTY AT CORONADO PARK, WE HAVE STARTED A DESIGN PROCESS. AND I KNOW THE DESIGN THAT COUNCILOR BENTON IS REFERRING TO IS ONE WE USE FOR THE PRESS CONFERENCE. WE HAD DONE THAT EXACT DESIGN QUICKLY FOR THE PURPOSE OF THE PRESS CONFERENCE. WE MET WITH THE ARCHITECTS ABOUT A WEEK PRIOR. WE ASKED THEM TO PUT SOME GREEN SPACE IN. BUT THE FINAL DESIGN ISN'T IN THE RENDERING OF THE DRAWING. TO COUNCILOR SANCHEZ'S QUESTION RELATED TO THE TRAINING FACILITY, WE DO HAVE OUR MAIN TRAINING FACILITY LOCATED AT THE WEST SIDE AT 118th AND CENTRAL. VERY FAR ON THE WEST SIDE. TO MAINTAIN OUR ISO RATING, WE HAVE TO PUT OUR FIREFIGHTERS THROUGH TWO NINE-HOUR DAYS OF TRAINING ON A FACILITY THAT IS LOCATED AT A CERTAIN SIZE OF PROPERTY. SO OUR THOUGHT WAS THE TRAINING FACILITY COULD INKOURPERATE TRAINING CENTRALLY LOCATED SO WE DIDN'T HAVE PEOPLE DRIVING ALL THE WAY ACROSS THE CITY TO THE WEST SIDE FOR TRAINING. THAT'S OUR ONLY TRAINING LOCATION. FOR THIS PROPERTY, THE OTHER PIECE OF IT IS OUR SPECIAL OPERATIONS ARE WILDLAND RESPONSE, HEAVY TECHNICAL RESCUE, AND OUR HAZARDOUS MATERIALS PROGRAM, THE HUB IS ON THE WEST SIDE. WE WANTED TO CENTRALLY LOCATE THEM IN THE MIDDLE OF THE CITY SO THEY HAVE BASICALLY CITY WIDE -- IT'S EASIER TO GET CITY WIDE. THE OTHER PART OF THE PLAN WAS TO LOCATE ALL OF THE SPECIAL OPERATIONS IN THAT CENTRAL LOCATION. THAT'S WHY WE NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE PROPERTY FOR THAT. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: SPECIAL OPERATIONS MAKES SENSE. WHAT EXACTLY -- I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THE TRAINING. YOU'RE JUST GOING TO BRING IT TO A MORE CENTRALIZED LOCATION. DOESN'T THE CURRENT FACILITY HAVE EVERYTHING IT NEEDS TO TRAIN EVERY FIREFIGHTER? ARE YOU GOING TO BE DUPLICATING EFFORT? ARE YOU GOING TO BRING SOME ITEMS THAT YOU DON'T NEED TO BRING DOWN? THAT'S MY QUESTION. ARE WE GOING TO BE DUPLICATING EFFORTS? WHAT MAKES THIS SO DIFFERENT THAN WHAT YOU HAVE ALREADY ON THE WEST SIDE? >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, PART OF WHAT BRINGS -- WHAT HELPS US IS IT'S NOT A DUPLICATION OF EFFORT. THE TRAINING REQUIREMENT IS REALLY INTERESTING BECAUSE IT DICTATES HOW MANY ACRES THERE HAS TO BE IN A TRAINING TOWER. RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE WE CAN ONLY TRAIN AT THE LOCATION ON THE WEST SIDE WE HAVE A REALLY TROITH TRAIN -- TIGHT TRAINING CALENDAR. WE DO OUR EMS TRAINING AND FIRE SUPPRESSION TRAINING AND SPECIAL OPERATIONS TRAINING IN LOCATION. THE PERSONNEL THAT CAN ADMINISTER TRAINING CAN EASILY BOTH AT BOTH LOCATIONS SO IT OPENS UP THE CALENDAR A BIT. WE'RE REALLY TIGHT AS WE'RE TRYING TO PROVIDE MORE TRAINING SOMETIMES WE CAN'T FIT IT INTO THE CALENDAR. IT MAKES SENSE FOR US BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE FAR NORTHEAST HEIGHTS STATIONS ALWAYS HAVING TO DRIVE TO THE WEST SIDE AND BACK. ALSO IT JUST ALLOWS US FOR MORE FLEXIBILITY AND BEING ABLE TO GET ALL OF THAT TRAINING PUT IN THAT WE NEED TO DO. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU. >>COUN. DAVIS: OTHER QUESTIONS? MR. RAEL. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR BENTON, TO YOUR AMENDMENT. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TALKED TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND WE HAVE HAD CONVERSATIONS ABOUT OUR INTEREST IN PROVIING SOME PUBLIC SPACE THERE. THIS IS A LITTLE MORE SPECIFIC. THE SIZE IS NOT MAYBE A BIG CONCERN, GIVEN THE END OF THE AMENDMENT THAT WE MIGHT HAVE TO PURCHASE OTHER PROPERTY. I WOULD ASK YOU A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT. AN URBAN PARK, I KNOW, IS A VERY DIFFERENT TYPE OF PARK. I WONDER IF WE CAN TAKE THAT OUT AND SAY PUBLIC PARK. KNOWING YOUR INTEREST IN URBAN PARK, AND WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT THAT, TRYING TO DESCRIBE THAT IT MAY NOT BE WHAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD WANTS. A PUBLIC PARK WOULD BE SOMETHING WE CAN WORK WITH. >>COUN. DAVIS: LET ME LET COUNCILOR BENTON RESPOND. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU, MR. RAEL. UNDERSTOOD. I THREW THAT WORD URBAN IN BECAUSE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS AREA AND PRIOR TO THIS AFR PROPOSAL FOR THE SITE, WE TALKED ABOUT WHAT SHOULD CORONADO PARK BE. THERE'S A HISTORY IN THAT AREA WHICH IS LARGELY AROUND THAT AREA IS FOR DISADVANTAGED. THERE'S A HISTORY OF REMOVING PARKS AS OPPOSED TO BUILDING THEM. THERE WAS A PARK WHERE THE FEDERAL COURT HOUSE IS NOW. I USED TO LIVE AROUND IT. IT WAS A PLAZA-TYPE PARK. ALMOST LIKE YOU SEE IN LATIN AMERICA. IT'S GOT TREES AND GREENERY. IT'S NOT AN ACTIVE FIELD OR SOMETHING THAT LOOKS LIKE A SUBURBAN PARK WHERE YOU RUN AND THROW BALLS. IT'S A GATHERING AREA. AND THESE TYPE OF PARKS YOU'LL SEE IN URBAN AREAS THAT'S A HISTORY ESPECIALLY ON THE EAST COAST WHERE THEY BUILD A SMALL PARK WITHIN THE URBAN CONTEXT. THEY PUT A NICE TALL FENCE AROUND. THEY PUT THE COMBAET AROUND THAT HAS THE RULES AND YOU'RE ENTERING THE PEOPLE'S TERRITORY. WHEN YOU GO INTO THE PARK AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S TERRITORY. THAT'S WHAT I MEANT BY THAT. I REALIZE DESCRIING ALL THAT IN THIS WAS NOT MAKING SENSE. IT'S BEEN SOMETHING WE'VE DESCRIBED FOR A LONG TIME. AND WE HAVEN'T REALLY TRIED ONE IN ALBUQUERQUE, YET. THAT WAS THE INTENTION. YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND I HAVE RAN THIS LANGUAGE BY THE NEIGHBORHOOD. I DON'T THINK THEY HAVE A CHANCE TO TAKE VOTE. THEY WERE NOT OPPOSED TO IT. AND WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, I THINK IS -- I'D BE FLEXIBLE TO BE DETERMINED WHAT IT REALLY MEANS. I LIKE THE WORD URBAN IN THERE BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T LOOKED AT PARKS THIS WAY BEFORE. EXCEPT FOR SOME OF THE LITTLE POSTAGE STAMP PARKS THAT ARE CONCRETE THAN PARK. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR BENTON, HOW ABOUT WE PUT SEARCH AS AN -- SUCH AS AN URBAN PARK? >>COUN. BENTON: I'M OKAY WITH STRIKING IT, AS LONG AS YOU KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. >>COUN. DAVIS: WHAT IS THE FRIENDLY AMENDMENT? STRIKING URBAN. OKAY. I THINK -- COUNCILOR JONES,I'M SORRY. >>COUN. JONES: JUST ONE QUESTION. DETAILS DETAILS DETAILS. THAT ALWAYS MAKES US CRAZY. MY UNDERSTANDING THAT WE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO RELINQUISH THE APARTMENT TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT UNTIL THAT IS THROUGH THE PARKS ADVISORY BOARD. THEY'RE THE FINAL SAY ON THAT. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE BEFORE WE START PLANNING THIS THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY USE THIS. JUST WANT TO BRING UP THAT LITTLE TECHNICALITY. IT'S A BIG ONE. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR JONES, YOU'RE CORRECT. AND WE'VE ALREADY RAN THAT THROUGH THE PROCESS. >>COUN. JONES: IF I MAY? PARKS BOARD DOES NOT KNOW YOU'RE RUNNING THAT THROUGH THE PROCESS. THEY HAVE NOT HEARD THAT YET. >>COUN. JONES: SOUNDS LIKE A FUN MEETING. >>COUN. JONES: >>COUN. DAVIS: I THINK WE'VE HEARD OTHER IDEAS. LAW ENFORCEMENT MENTIONED FOR A WHILE THERE'S LOBBYING EFFORTS TO BUILD A PERMANENT AND ROBUST PUBLIC SAFETY MEMORIAL. I KNOW APD HAS THE NORTHEAST SUBSTATION. THIS WOULD BE A GREAT PLACE TO DO THAT FOR THE PUBLIC SAFETY SERVICE FOLKS. I THINK -- I SEE CHIEF NODDING HIS HEAD. I THINK THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES TO DO IT IN A HIGH PROFILE PLACE. LOTS OF OPPORTUNITY THAT WILL HAVE TO COME BACK TO CITY COUNCIL FOR APPROVALS. BOTH FOR MONEY AND DESIGN. WE'LL HAVE ANOTHER BITE AT THAT APPLE. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THE AMENDMENT NUMBER FIVE? COUNCILOR JONES. >>COUN. JONES: I'M SORRY. JUST ONE MORE STATEMENT. THAT IS WE NEED TO ADDRESS THIS AS A PRELIMINARY PLAN. THIS JUST CAME UP TONIGHT AND WE DON'T HAVE MUCH ON IT. BEFORE I START GETTING PHONE CALLS, UNDERSTAND IT'S PRELIMINARY AND WILL COME OUT WITH A FINAL PLAN IF WE CHOOSE TO DO THAT. THANK YOU. >>COUN. DAVIS: COUNCILORS, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON AMENDMENT FIVE AS PRESENTED WITH THE STRIKE? THANK YOU, CHIEF. SEEING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES. ANY OPPOSED? SEEING NONE. WE'LL CALL THAT 9-0. COUNCILOR BASSAN, I THINK WE'RE BACK ON YOUR BILL. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, I'M HAPPY WITH WHAT WE'VE CREATED. AND I APPRECIATE EVERYONE'S WORK FROM WHAT CAME FROM THE ADMINISTRATION TO THE COLLABORATION WITH OTHER COUNCILORS AND I THINK THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE SOME SAY IN IT. I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. DAVIS: SEEING NO OERTH OERTHDYING THAT MATTER CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU. COUNCILOR BASSAN. YOU AGAIN. 123. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, R-123 APPROPRIATING FUND FOR OPERATING THE GOVERNMENT OF THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE FOR FISCAL YEAR 2024 BEGINNING JULY 1, 2023, AND ENDING JUNE 30, 2024. AND ADJUSTING FISCAL APPROPRIATIONS AND APPROPRIATING FUNDS. I MOVE A DO PASS. >>COUN. DAVIS: SECOND FROM COUNCILOR JONES. WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT. WE WILL TAKE THAT FIRST AND THEN GO TO AMENDMENTS. PLEASE TAKE US THROUGH HONORS. >> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. OUR FIRST SPEAKER IS JADE FOLLOWED BY BERNADETTE. >>COUN. DAVIS: GOOD TO SEE YOU. >> HELLO WRERB EVERYBODY >> WE'RE HERE TO ADVOCATE TO KEEP OUR BUSES FREE IN THE COMMUNITY. WE HAVE LOTS OF REASONS, A LOT OF YOU HAVE GOTTEN EMAILS. MANY -- WE WANT INCREASES. IF YOU GO DOWN LOMAS, THERE'S NO CARS. PLEASE KEEP IN MIND WHO THIS IS AFFECTING. 89% OF OUR COMMUNITY IS LOW INCOME. WE DO STILL NEED THESE BUSES FOR FREE. WE WERE RECENTLY ASKED TO COME TO THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE YOUTH JOB FAIR. WE WILL BE THERE WHEN WE DO AN INTERNSHIP. A LOT OF THE STUDENTS TAKE THE BUS EVERY DAY. HOW ARE THESE KIDS GOING TO GET TO THE JOBS? WE NEED TO KEEP SUPPORTING THE PEOPLE WHO NEED IT. WE KNOW THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE WHO COMMIT THESE CRIMES ARE NOT RIDING THE BUS. JUST HAVE FAITH. WE ARE GOING TO GET BETTER AND WE NEED YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU FOR COMING DOWN TONIGHT. >> JOSEPH FOLLOWED BY ANDRES ON ZOOM. WE'LL NOW GO TO AN DRRBGS ES BRNG FOLLOWED BY AN >> HELLO, COUNCIL PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. I AM AN ORGANIZER WITH THE NEW MEXICO DREAM TEAM. I'M SPEAKING IN SUPPORT OF KEEPING THE BUSES FREE. I MYSELF AS AN IMMIGRANT YOUTH WAS ABLE TO TAKE THE BUS ALL THE TIME BETWEEN HIGH SCHOOL AND COLLEGE. I TOOK ADVANTAGE OF THE STICKER THEY GAVE YOU AT UNM WHEN YOU'RE A STUDENT ALL THE TIME. SO, I THINK THIS WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE VERY BENEFICIAL TO ALL SORTS OF YOUTH AND ALL SORTS OF PEOPLE WHO DEFINITELY NEED THESE BUSES FREE. THANK YOU. YEAH. >> ANITA FOLLOWED BY CESAR. >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCILORS, I AM SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF ALBUQUERQUE AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND ZERO FARES. I URGE YOU TO VOTE ON R-123, IN FAVOR OF $14 MILLION OF SUPPORTIVE HOUSING BUDGETS. FULL FUNDING OF SERVICE PROGRAMS TO SUSTAIN PEOPLE IN HOUSING. FULL FUNDING TO THE TRANSIT DEPARTMENT AND THE$3 MILLION TO SUPPORT PROGRAM CONTINUATION AND SUCCESS. NOW IS THE TIME TO ENSURE EVERY PERSON HAS A PLACE TO LIVE. IF THOSE PLACES HAVE VARIETY OF PLACE FOR ALL PEOPLE IN THE CITY. THAT WE OUTREACH TO COMMUNITIES OF COLOR SO ALL PEOPLE TRULY BENEFIT FROM HOUSING INVESTMENTS. HOUSING IS A SOCIAL AND RACIAL JUSTICE ISSUE. AS YOU KNOW MANY PEOPLE IN THE ALBUQUERQUE COMMUNITY ARE ALREADY STRETCHED THIN, OVERPAYING FOR RENTAL HOUSING WHEN THEY'RE LUCKY TO HAVE IT. MANY OF THE SAME PEOPLE ARE ALSO TRANSIT DEPENDENT RESIDENTS, SENIORS, FAMILY, ESSENTIAL WORKERS, AND PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES. WHO ARE DIRECTLY BENEFITTING FROM FREE TRANSIT AND YOUR HOUSING PLANS. I AND MUCH OFIFY FAMILY GREW UP IN ALBUQUERQUE. THEY WORKED AND LIVE HERE. EXAMPLES INCLUDE MY MOTHER, A NURSE FOR 50 YEARS AND RELIES ON PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION. MY UNCLE AND HIS FAMILY LIVE IN THE INTERNATIONAL DISTRICT AND HAVE BEEN UNDERHOUSED FOR DECADES. WITH THE DISCUSSIONS UNDERWAY TONIGHT THERE'S A CHANCE TO MAKE THIS BETTER. MAKING QUALITY HOUSING THEY CAN PAY FOR AVAILABLE AND ACCESSIBLE TRANSPORTATION TO CONNECT WITH FAMILY AND ENTERTAINMENT AND FRIENDS AND SERVICES IN THE CITY THEY LOVE. A VOTE YES TONIGHT CAN ENSURE THAT EVERYONE CAN BENEFIT FROM SERVICES THAT MEET THEIR BASIC HUMAN NEEDS. THANK YOU. >> CESAR FOLLOWED BY JOSEPH ON ZOOM. >> THANK YOU, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. I'M A RESIDENT OF DISTRICT SEVEN. I EXPRESS MY SUPPORT FOR THE CONTINUING OF THE ZERO FARE PROGRAMS. PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION PUT ME THROUGH MIDDLE SCHOOL AND HIGH SCHOOL DAYS. I COME FROM AN IMMIGRANT FAMILY AND DURING MY SCHOOL DAYS WHEN I COULDN'T HAVE A JOB WHEN I WAS A CHILD WE HAD TO SQUEEZE EVERY SINGLE DOLLAR. I GOT $20 EVERY WEEK AND $7 JUST TO TAKE THE BUSES I NEEDED FOR SCHOOL. IT WAS THE ONLY OPTION WE HAD. THE ONLY OPTION THAT MAY FAMILY HAD. WITH FREE FARES AND THE ABILITY FOR INCREASING THE BUDGET FOR PUBLIC TRANSPORT. GOD KNOWS I'M NOT THE ONLY IMMIGRANT YOUTH, ESSENTIAL WORKING, PERSON WITH DISABILITIES WHOSE LIFE RELY ON PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION. RELIABLE, SAFE, AND FREE TRANSPORTATION IS NOT A LUXURY OF THE FUTURE BUT A NECESSITY FOR TODAY. AND TO EASE THE CONCERNS RAISED BY COUNCILOR LEWIS AND COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, I CAN ASSURE YOU THERE'S NOT A VAST ORGANIZED CRIME THAT SELECTED PUBLIC BUSES THAT RUN ON INTERMITTENT SCHEDULES. I UNDERSTAND YOUR FEAR WITH THE FENTANYL, I CITE THE AMERICAN COLLEGE AND SAYS SKIN CONTACT WITH FENTANYL OR FENTANYL IN THE AIR WILL NOT LEAD TO ADVERSE EFFECTS AS IT GOES INTO YOUR BLOODSTREAM. PLEASE PROVIDE THE WORKERS WITH THE DEGNIFIED PAY THEY DESERVE. >> JOSEPH. >> MR. PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OF ALBUQUERQUE CITY COUNCIL, MY NAME IS JOSEPH, AND AM AN ENROLLED TRIBAL MEMBER OF THE NAVAJO NATION. I LIVED IN ALBUQUERQUE FOR FIVE YEARS. I MOVED TO ALBUQUERQUE SPECIFICALLY TO GO TO SCHOOL AT SOUTHWESTERN INDIAN IF -- IF -- INSTITUTE. COMBR ENDED I ENDED UP STAYING IN ALBUQUERQUE, LIVING ON THE WEST SIDE. AND TRIBAL INSTITUTIONS LIKE SIPI ARE -- THEY CREATE MEANINGFUL IMPACT FOR CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE. AND IT GETS OVERSEEN -- I'M REALLY GLAD THAT THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE FINALLY PUT A BUS SHELTER IN FRONT OF SIPI. I WORKED ON THAT WHEN I WAS A STUDENT OVER THERE. AND THEY JUST PUT THAT IN A COUPLE YEARS AGO. AND I USED TO RIDE THE RAPID RIDE. THE BLUE LINE. THE RED LINE. AND I HAD CLASSMATES THAT WERE FROM UNM THAT WOULD RIDE THE BUS TO SIPI. THE FREE FARES WAS SOMETHING THAT WE WERE TRYING TO DO AS STUDENTS BUT WE COULDN'T GET TO BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO HAVE A CNM OR UNM BADGE. BUT THE FREE FARES GIVE ACCESSIBILITY TO ALL STUDENTS. EVERYBODY GETS IT. IT DEFINITELY HAS A POSITIVE IMPACT. AND ASKING FOR -- WHAT I'M ASKING FOR IS FULL FUNDING. AND IN ADDITION TO THE FREE FARES, I'M ALSO SPEAKING TO YOU, AGAIN, AS A TRIBAL MEMBER. UNDERSTANDING ALBUQUERQUE'S RICH HISTORY. AND ESPECIALLY, YOU KNOW, THE RELATIONSHIP THAT THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE SHOULD HAVE WITH TRIBES. WITH TRIBAL LEADERS. AND MAKING ANY TYPE OF PLANNING DECISIONS BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF HISTORICAL -- THERE'S A LOT OF SACRED SITES. >>COUN. DAVIS: WE APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE WITH US. WE GIVE YOU YOUR CHANCE TO FINISH UP YOUR COMMENT. >> APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT YOU GUYS ARE DOING. WE CAN DO IT BETTER AND IN CONCLUSION, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT ANY TYPE OF PLANNING THAT WE ALSO CAN CONSIDER THE TRIBAL LEADERS. AND MOVING FORWARD, I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU AGAIN FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU. COUNCILORS, WE'RE BACK ON THE BILL. COUNCILOR BASSAN. ANYTHING BEFORE WE GO TO AMENDMENTS? WE'RE JUST GOING TO JUMP RIGHT IN. WE'RE ON AMENDMENT A. WHICH WE CALL FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE. WHICH IS COUNCILOR BASSAN'S. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE. THIS IS A TECHNICAL AMENDMENT. IT WAS FOUND AFTER WE HAD ALREADY DONE THE COMMUNITY SUBSTITUTE AND AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE. SOME OF THE FUNDING FOR ARTS AND CULTURE WERE ALREADY APPROPRIATED. WE NEED TO MAKE THAT ADJUSTMENT SO WE DON'T OVEREXTEND. >>COUN. DAVIS: SECOND FROM COUNCILOR GROUT. ANY QUESTION OR DISCUSSION? ANYTHING FROM THE ADMINISTRATION? THAT'S A NO. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. 9-0. COMMITTEE -- FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO. THIS IS CARRIED OVER FROM THE LAST. WE'LL TAKE AMENDMENT B. I MOVE COMMITTEE AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO. THIS MOVES $150,000 FROM HR RISK RECOVERY WHICH WAS IDENTIFIED AS HAVING OPTION. FOR THE PURPOSE OF CONDUCTING FEASIBILITY STUDY FOR PREVENTING HOMELESS AND HOUSING INSECURITY. WE GLOSSED OVER THIS, BUT THE GRARNT PROGRAM ESSENTIALLY PROVIDES A WAY FOR THE THIRD PARY LIKE A NON-PROFIT OR FINANCIAL INSTITUTION TO GUARANTEE A PERSON'S CREDIT WHEN THEY'RE APPLYING FOR HOUSING SO THEY CAN GET OVER THAT HUMP AND ESTABLISH THEMSELVES WITH PERMANENT HOUSING. I MOVE COMMITTEE AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO. SECOND FROM COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM? APPRECIATE THE ADMINISTRATION'S HELP IN IDENTIFYING A SOURCE FOR THIS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES. ANY OPPOSED? NO. 9-0. AMENDMENT NUMBER THREE. COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I'LL MOVE FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER THREE. ON PAGE TWO LINE SEVEN, INCREASE THE AMOUNT BY $40,000. AT THE LAST MEETING WERE TIGHT ON BUDGET AND TWO SPONSORSHIPS HAD BEEN DROPPED OUT ACCIDENTLY FROM THE BUDGET. I HAD TAKEN 40K FROM THE ANIMAL CARE CENTER TO PAY FOR THOSE. I GOT A COUPLE OF MEAN CALLS. I DO NOT WANT TO BE KNOWN AS THE PERSON THAT TAKES MONEY AWAY FROM THE ANIMAL WELFARE SO I'M PUTTING IT BACK IN BECAUSE WE FOUND THE MONEY. >>COUN. DAVIS: I DON'T THINK ANYONE HAS EVER ACCUSED YOU OF TAKEN MONEY OUT OF THAT. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF AMENDMENT THREE? 9-0. AMENDMENT FOUR. COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. THIS IS FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER FOUR. ADDING $30,000 ON PAGE FIVE LINE 25 FOR STRATEGIC SUPPORT FOR THE NEW MEXICO SPONSORSHIP DROPPED FROM THE BUDGET FROM LAST YEAR. REINSTATING THAT SPONSORSHIP. >>COUN. DAVIS: COUNCILOR BASSAN OFFERS A SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ANYTHING FROM THE ADMINISTRATION? SEEING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF AMENDMENT FOUR SAY YES. THAT MATTER CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. WE'RE ON A ROLL. COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER FIVE. PAGE THREE LINE 25, HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES INCREASE THE AMOUNT BY $25,000. REINSTATING A SPONSORSHIP THAT WAS ACCIDENTALLY DROPPED FOR THE CENTER THAT PROVIDES SERVICES FOR YOUNG PEOPLE THAT LOST PARENTS. MOVE THIS AMENDMENT. >>COUN. DAVIS: SECOND FROM COUNCILOR GROUT. WHO CAN VOTE AGAINST THAT? ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES. ANY OPPOSED? 9-0. COUNCILOR GROUT. WE'RE ON SIX. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. LET ME SEE HERE. THE ADMINISTRATION HAS ASKED ME TO PULL THIS AND SO, TELL ME. >>COUN. DAVIS: YOU WANT TO SPONSOR IT OR ASK THE ADMINISTRATION? >>COUN. GROUT: ASK THE ADMINISTRATION. >>COUN. DAVIS: MR. RAEL. COMMENTS ON AMENDMENT F. MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, FIRST OF ALL, YOU AND I DID TALK ON FRIDAY ABOUT THIS PROJECT >> YOU DID ASK MY ASSISTANCE IN LOOKING FOR FUNDING TO SUPPORT THIS EFFORT. IT DID TAKE ME A WHILE TO GET BACK I DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO GET BACK WITH YOU. WE HAVE SOME FUNDING WE'VE IDENTIFIED IN THE MR PROGRAM. AND THERE IS SOME FUNDING IN TRANSIT AS PART OF THE ART PROJECT THAT WE CAN DO SOME DIRECTED FUNDING TO THE EAST GATEWAY MRA. OUR CONCERN IS THIS PARTICULAR AMENDMENT TAKES HALF A MILLION FROM ACS. THAT DEPARTMENT IS ALREADY -- WE'VE ALREADY ASKED THEM TO HOLD FUNDING FOR A PERIOD OF TIME. THIS WOULD REALLY BE A DIFFICULT FOR THE DEPARTMENT TO CARRY OUT ITS MISSION AND PARTICULARLY GOING TO 24-7. THAT'S WHY I ASK IF YOU CONSIDER WITHDRAWING AND WE'LL WORK WITH YOU TO ENSURE, AND I SAY WE'LL FIND THE MONEY FOR YOUR EAST GATEWAY PROJECT. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. I WILL NOT MOVE IT. >>COUN. DAVIS: NEGOTIATIONS. COUNCILORS, AMENDMENT H WHICH IS NOW FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER SIX. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. ALL RIGHT, I'LL MOVE FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER SIX. ON PAGE TWO LINE 23 ENTITLED EARLY RETIREMENT DECREASE THE AMOUNT BY $200,000. -- THE CREASE THE AMOUNT BY 232,000 CL. THIS IS A MUCH STREAMLINED VERSION OF THE ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR STAFF FOR THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT. I THINK WE HEARD THAT THERE WAS A LARGE PLAN FOR AN AGGRESSIVE UNIT. WHEN WE TALK THROUGH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT WHAT'S MISSING IS AN ATTORNEY AND STAFF TO REALLY WORK THROUGH PROBLEM MATIC MURTIAL PROPERTIESES THAT HAVE GONE THROUGH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND CODE ENFORCEMENT HAVE GONE THROUGH ADAPT AND HAVE ISSUES. THIS IS ALLOWS THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT TO WORK ON COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES THROUGH THAT PROCESS OF MAKING SURE THERE'S A COMMUNITY SAFETY INCLUDED IN THE PROCESS. WITH THAT, I MOVE FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER SIX. >>COUN. DAVIS: I'LL SECOND FOR THE RECORD. ANY QUESTIONS? ANYTHING FROM THE ADMINISTRATION? NO. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF AMENDMENT SIX, SAY YES. AND ANY OPPOSED? THAT IS 9-0. COUNCILOR BASSAN, ITEM H. FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER SEVEN. IT'S LONG ONE. >>COUN. BASSAN: I MOVE FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER SEVEN. THIS AMENDMENT IS TO ALLOW THE FOLLOWING APPROPRIATIONS ARE AUTHORIZED AND APPROVED. FROM THE 2023 STATE LEGISLATURE. BECAUSE OF THE WAY THAT EVERYTHING IS STRUCTURED THIS YEAR WE'RE ABLE TO OBTAIN FUNDING FASTER IT IF WE DO THIS. I'M HAPPY TO HAVE YOU ASK ADMINISTRATION FURTHER. I THINK THAT SUMS IT UP. >>COUN. DAVIS: I'LL SECOND IT FOR THE RECORD. COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN HAS A QUESTION. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: I HAVE ONE QUESTION ON THIS VERY LONG LIST. THERE IS STILL $70,000 FOR DESERT HILLS ACQUISITION. I KNOW OUR REQUEST WAS FOR MILLIONS OF DOLLARS. AND WE GOT 70K. I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THOSE FUNDS WERE GOING TO BE NOT ACCEPTED BY THE CITY. SO, IF WE'RE GOING TO BE ACCEPTING THEM CAN WE TELL ME WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO WITH 70K? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, THE 70K OBVIOUSLY WAS ORIGINALLY OUR PROPOSAL TO THE LEGISLATURE WAS TO LOOK AT POTENTIALLY ACQUISITION FOR THE SITE. GIVEN THE LOW AMOUNT THAT WAS FUNDED THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. MY SENSE WOULD BE THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT THE 7K FOR POTENTIALLY, IF YOU WILL, LOOKING AT SAFETY MEASURES OR IMPROVEMENTS AROUND THE SITE AND USE NONED -- FUNDING. THE LANGUAGE IS FLEXIBLE. IT MIGHT GIVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE A SALE. WE'RE NOT EVEN CLOSE FOR A POTENTIAL REDEVELOPMENT OF THE SITE. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: I'M SORRY, MR. PRESIDENT. NOW I HAVE A FOLLOW UP QUESTION. WE DON'T OWN THE PROPERTY. BUT WE WOULD SPEND THE 70K TO IMPROVE THE PROPERTY SO WE CAN PURCHASE IT IN THE FUTURE? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, WE OWN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY AROUND THE PROPERTY. THERE MIGHT BE OPPORTUNITIES FOR US TO IMPROVE THE STREET SCAPE AND THE LIGHTING ISSUES AND SITUATIONAL ISSUES THAT MIGHT IMPROVE OR ENHANCE THE PROPERTY. IT'S A VACANT PROPERTY. THE IDEA IS TO LOOK AT USING THE FUNDING FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO MOVE A REDEVELOPMENT EFFORT AS OPPOSED TO THE EFFORT WE ORIGINALLY PROPOSED. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. >>COUN. DAVIS: OTHER QUESTIONS? COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, THANK YOU, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, GOOD CATCH. FOR THE RECORD, I FEEL VERY UNCOMFORTABLE ABOUT ACCEPTING $70,000 FOR THE DESERT HILLS ACQUISITION IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM. I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE LANGUAGE. I NEVER WAS IN SUPPORT OF IT BEING IN THE CITY WIDE PRIORITY REQUESTS IN THE FIRST PLACE. I DON'T WANT TO HOLD UP THIS ENTIRE BILL WITH EVERYTHING, HOWEVER, CAN WE TAKE IT OUT? OR DO I GO ON THE RECORD SAYING I 100% DO NOT CONSENT TO THAT PART AS FAR AS MY ONE SINGULAR VOTE. >>COUN. DAVIS: WE CAN DO IT AS A STAND ALONE? >> MR. PRESIDENT, THESE ARE FUNDS FROM THE STATE LEGISLATURE AVAILABLE TO THE CITY. OUR OPPORTUNITY WAS THEY WERE ALL FUNDED BY FUNDING AVAILABLE JULY 1. WE LISTED ALL THE ONES THAT CAME TO US. IF YOU WANT TO TAKE THIS ONE OUT AND HAVE IT STAND ALONE WE CAN ARE THE CONVERSATION AT THAT POINT. >>COUN. BASSAN: I KNOW THE COUNCILORS WORKING ON THE YOUTH SHELTER AND WERE NEVER FULLY ON BOARD WITH THIS PROPOSITION. SO, I'M VERY HESITANT TO ACCEPT THESE FUNDS FROM THE STATE GIVEN THE PAST AND WHAT WE'VE HAD HAPPEN WITH MANY THOINGS THAT COME TO LIGHT. AND PREFER TO TAKE IT OUT. AND LET THE STATE HAVE THE 70K FOR ALL I CARE. >>COUN. DAVIS: THE SPONSORS BY REQUEST, BUT IT'S HER REQUEST. COUNCILOR GROUT. >> MR. PRESIDENT, I JUST WANT TO MAKE ONE FINAL COMMENT. FOR AS MUCH AS THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE MIGHT BE A CHALLENGE FOR ALL OF US, SMIN WAYS OR OTHER, THESE ARE LEGISLATORS WHO ARE TRYING TO HELP THE CITY. AND SPONSORS MIGHT BE -- WE MIGHT NEED TO TALK TO THE SPONSORS OF THE BILL TO ENSURE THEY DON'T FEEL LIKE THEY PUT MONEY IN THAT WE'RE NOT ACCEPTING. WAEM HAVE THAT CONVERSATION WHEN WE TALK THIS. >>COUN. DAVIS: LAST TIME SOMEBODY SPONSORED SOMETHING THAT DIDN'T GO THROUGH THE PROCESS IT GOT EVERYBODY IN TROUBLE AND IT'S IN RIO RANCHO. MAYBE WE CAN REVISIT THAT. >>COUN. PEÑA: MR. PRESIDENT, I THINK IT'S STANDARD PROCESS, I THINK THE ONLY REASON WE'RE DOING IT NOW IS WE'RE HAVING THE MONEY AVAILABLE SOONER. I CAN UNDERSTAND COUNCILOR BASSAN'S RESERVATIONS. I THINK AT THE END OF THE DAY IT'S ALLOCATED IT THE CITY. NEXT SESSION COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN CAN ASK REAUTHORIZE EGG OF THE DOLLARS. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, I DON'T KNOW IF COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN IS ON YOUR LIST. I THINK IT CAN BE REAPPROPRIATED. HOWEVER, IF WE CAN GET STAFF TO MAKE SURE TO DESIGNATE IT, THAT'S FINE. I DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE ACCEPTING IT LIKE THIS. I'M WILLING TO NOT HOLD UP THE BILL AND SCREW UP EVERYTHING. BUT I WANT TO ENSURE THE SCOPE IS EXPANDED AND WE'RE SAFE AND IT'S NOT GOING TO BE USED ON THE DESERT HILLS AND INSTEAD OF CITY RIGHT-OF-WAY NEAR DESERT HILLS. IF WE CAN WORK ON THAT AND GET IT DONE SOON, I'M OKAY WITH THAT. I SEE NODS. >>COUN. DAVIS: COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, YOU WERE NAMED. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU,MR. PRESIDENT. I JUST THINK IT'S A PROBLEM WE CONTINUALLY SEE AT THE LEGISLATURE IS WE ASK FOR $10 MILLION AND WE GET 70K. I WORRY THAT IF WE ACCEPT THESE FUNDS AND USE IT FOR SOMETHING ADJACENT BUT NOT ON THERE WITHOUT TELLING THE STATE OR THE SPONSORS IT SEES NOT REALLY TRANSPARENT. AND YOU KNOW, IT'S NO SECRET I DID NOT APPRECIATE THIS REQUEST TO BEGIN WITH. GIVEN WE ONLY GOT THIS AMOUNT, I'M HAPPY WITH THE ANSWER OF LET'S THINK THROUGH HOW TO WORK WITH THE SPONSORS AND THE STATE TO MAKE SURE IT'S ALLOCATED TO SOMETHING NEAR THERE. I WANT TO MAKE VERY CLEAR WE'RE NOT BANK ROLLING MONEY OF 70K TO PURCHASE A PIECE OF PROPERTY NO ONE WANTS TO PURCHASE. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU I JUST THINK THAT WAS AN EXCELLENT CATCH. THANK YOU, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. I APPRECIATE IT. >>COUN. DAVIS: WHERE ARE WE, COUNCILOR BASSAN? >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, WE'RE AT MOVING FORWARD WITH AMENDMENT SEVEN AND STAFF IS GOING TO WORK AT HELPING US FINE TUNE AND LIMIT THE SCOPE SO IT CAN BE MORE TRANSPARENT, ACCOUNTABLE, AND TRUSTWORTHY. I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. DAVIS: ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? >> MR. PRESIDENT, ON THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE, ONE LAST POINT. TO BOTH COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN AND COUNCILOR BASSAN,'S CONCERNS. KEEP IN MIND THAT ANY USE OF THESE FUNDS HAS TO GO BACK TO THE STATE TO GET A NOTICE OF OBLIGATION AND APPROVAL FOR USE OF THE FUNDS. SO YOU KNOW AND COUNCILOR SANCHEZ KNOWS, WHATEVER IS PROPOSED TO BE UTILIZED OF THE FUNDS HAVE TO BE IN LINE WITH THE APPROPRIATION OF THE LANGUAGE. THE DFA HAS TO APPROVE THAT IN THE PROCESS. JUST TO GIVE YOU THAT PERSPECTIVE. >>COUN. DAVIS: MOVING FORWARD WITH AMENDMENT SEVEN AS WRITTEN WITH NO CHANGE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. THAT MATTER CARRIES 8-0. COUNCILOR BENTON IS EXCUSED FOR THE REMAINREMAINEDDER. FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER EIGHT. ITEM I. >>COUN. BASSAN: IT'S ON PAGE FOUR LINE TWO ENTITLED OFFICE OF EQUITY AND INCLUSION INCREASE THE AMOUNT BY $280,000. ENTITLED STRATEGIC SUPPORT DECREASE THE AMOUNT BY $280,000. >>COUN. DAVIS: SECOND FROM COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. ANY DISCUSSION? I'M SORRY. COUNCILOR PEÑA. MR. RAEL. >> MR. PRESIDENT, AT THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING WE HAD A CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR MATTER. I WANT TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO FIRST AND FOREMOST SAY THANK YOU TO COUNCILOR BASSAN FOR THIS PARTICULAR AMENDMENT TONIGHT. I KNOW THIS ISSUE IS AN IMPORTANT ISSUE FOR THE CITY. I APPRECIATE COUNCILOR BASSAN'S WORK ON THIS PARTICULAR MATTER. REALLY HELPS GET THAT DEPARTMENT TO DOING WHAT IT NEEDS TO DO. WE HAD A LOT OF CHALLENING ISSUES IN THE COMMUNITY AND YOUR FUNDING AND RESTORING OF THE FUND IS MUCH APPRECIATED TO THE COMMUNITY AND TO THE DEPARTMENT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. >>COUN. DAVIS: ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER EIGHT. SEEING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. THAT IS 8-0. FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER NINE. COUNCILOR GROUT AND COUNCILOR JONES. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER NINE TO COMMITTEE SUB , THIS AMENDMENT INCREASES THE I.A. AND INSPECTOR GENERAL OFFICE FOR PROVIING A SALARY INCREASE. I.A. AND I.G. SALARY ADJUSTMENT OF $62,000 FOR THE I.G. AND $58,079 WAS RECOMMENDED BY THE ACCOUNTABILITY AND OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE. THE AMOUNT COMES FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF FINANCE STRATEGIC SPOIRT PROGRAM STRATEGY. >> COUNCILOR DAVIS, SINCE YOU HAVE -- WE TALKED ABOUT TODAY THE DISPARITY IN THE SALARIES. WE HAVE ROUGHLY 6,000 EMPLOYEES. ABOUT 240 MAKE MORE THAN $100,000. I.G.'S POSITION IS ONE OF THEM. INTERNAL AUDIT'S POSITION IS ONE OF THEM. WE ALSO AGREED JUST LAST WEEK BY WAY OF RESOLUTION 123-122 WHEN WE ADD OBJECTIVE THAT THE FIRST POSITION THAT THE STUDY WILL EVALUATE WILL BE THE I.G. INTERNAL AUDIT POSITION. I THINK THIS IS A LITTLE CONFUSING TO ME WHY WE -- GIVEN THE RAISE AND NOT WAITING FOR THE CLASS AND COMP STUDY. I WANT TO REMIND THAT PARTICULAR STUDY THAT YOU'RE CONSIDERING RIGHT NOW IS BASICALLY A SELF-STUDY. I MENTIONED THAT BEFORE. IT'S SOMETHING THAT WITH I.G. CAME UP ON HER OWN. AND AS FAR AS I UNDERSTAND, A.G.O. DID NOT VOTE ON THAT. I HIGHLY RECOMMEND THE COUNCILOR REACH OUT TO OTHER MEMBERS OF THE A.G.O. AS WELL TO DISCUSS HOW THIS TRANSPIRED. I THINK IN LIGHT OF THE DISPARITY IN PAY, I'LL GIVE YOU A COUPLE OF EXAMPLES. THE BLUE COLLAR SUPERVISORS AT TRANSIT. FOR EXAMPLE, VERY HARD TO FILL POSITION OF MECHANICS. WE'VE LOST ECHANS THREE WEEKS AGO. THE SUPERVIOR MAKES $65,000 AND SUPERVISES EIGHT PEOPLE. AT SOLID WASTE, THERE'S DRIVERS AND SUPERVISORS, THE SUPERVIOR SUPERVISES 15 DRIVERS AND MAKES $65,000. I THINK THIS IS THE PRIORITY THAT WE WANT TO GIVE RAISE BASED ON SELF-STUDY AND NOT WAIT FOR THE CLASS AND COMP STUDY? THE IRONY IS NOT LOST ON ME. JUST THE DISCUSSION WE HAD EARLIER TODAY. I URGE YOUR SUPPORT NOT TO GIVE THIS RAISE. I'M NOT AGAINST THE RAISE. I'M HIGHLY ENCOURAGE YOU TO WAIT FOR INDEPENDENT STUDY AND NOT A SELF-STUDY. THANK YOU. >>COUN. DAVIS: OTHER QUESTIONS BEFORE WE GO TO THE SPONSORS? I'M SORRY -- I THINK WE SHOULD DO THAT IN KIND AND DO MODIFICATION IF NECESSARY. I'M INTERESTED TO HEAR FROM THE SPONSORS. >>COUN. GROUT: URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. DAVIS: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF AMENDMENT NINE RAISE YOUR HAND AND SAY YES. 7-1. AND WE HAVE FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER TEN. COUNCILOR PEÑA. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I THINK WE HAVE TO MAKE A MOTION TO SUSPEND THE RULES IN ORDER TO HEAR THIS AMENDMENT. >>COUN. DAVIS: MOTION TO SUSPEND TO ALLOW THE LATE INTRODUCTION OF THE AMENDMENT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. THAT IS UNANIMOUS. COUNCILOR PEÑA ON YOUR AMENDMENT. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU. THIS IS FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER TEN. ON PAGE TWO INSERT THE AMOUNT OF $100,000. THE AMOUNT INCREASES THE WAGES FOR THOSE EMPLOYEES TO AT LEAST $15 PER HOUR. THE AMOUNT WOULD BE DISTRIBUTED TO THE RESPECTIVE DEPARTMENTS AND PROGRAMS BY THE OFF OFFENSE MANAGEMENT AND BUDGET. I THINK THAT'S SELF-EX-PLANATORY. URGE YOU'RE SUPPORT. >>COUN. JONES: JUST ONE QUESTION. IS $100,000 ENOUGH TO RAISE THE MONEY FOR ALL THE PEOPLE TO RAISE THE WAGES FOR THE PEOPLE? >>COUN. PEÑA: ACCORD TO THE BUDGET STAFF. >>COUN. DAVIS: THEY'RE NODDING AT THE TABLE. WHOEVER WANTS TO ANSWER THIS QUESTION. >> YES, MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILORS, $100,000 IS ENOUGH TO MAKE THIS AMENDMENT WORK. WE WEREN'T SURE WHAT HAD FINAL CALCULATION WOULD BE. WE HADENED DONE A -- HADN'T DOESN'T A PRELIMINARY GUESS. I THINK THIS WILL HANDLE IT. I WANT TO MAYBE ASK FOR A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT. TO SAY THIS ONLY APPLIES TO FULL AND PART-TIME WORKERS AND NOT SEASONAL OR TEMPORARY WORKERS. OTHER WAS IT WILL COST US A LOT MORE. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: COUNCILOR PEÑA AGREES. THE CLERK CAN MAKE THE NOTE IN THE FINAL AM -- COUNCILOR JONES ANYTHING? >>COUN. JONES: NO. THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION. >>COUN. DAVIS: COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN WITH A QUESTION. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: SO, I THOUGHT I HEARD EARIER THAT THERE WAS THREE TYPES OF TEMPORARY EMPLOYEES AND ONE TYPE IS REGULAR EMPLOYEE THAT CAN BE WORKING FOR THE CITY FOR UP TO TWO YEARS. ARE THOSE FOLKS NOT GOING TO BE INCLUDED IN THIS? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN NO. THEY WOULDN'T BE INCLUDE. WE CONSIDER THEM TEMPORARY WORKERS. AND TEMPORARY OR SEASONAL WORKERS DON'T -- IT WOULD COST US A LOT MORE. IT WOULD COST US ABOUT$2 MILLION. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: WE HAVE THAT MANY TEMPORARY, TWO-YEAR EMPLOYEES MAKING UNDER $15. >> A LOT OF TEMPORARY WORKERS ARE THE SENIOR EMPLOYEES THAT WORK DURING THE SUMMER. ALL OF THE LIFEGUARD, THE COMMUNITY SERVICE. WE HAVE ABOUT A THOUSAND EMPLOYEES, MORE IN THE SUMMER THAN WE DO OFF-SEASON. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU. I MUST HAVE MISUNDERSTOOD WHEN HE SAID THERE'S THREE TYPES OF TEMPORARY EMPLOYEES. ONE WAS SEASONAL, ONE WAS STUDENT, AND THERE WAS ONE THAT WAS JUST FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES THAT WORK FOR TWO YEARS. DID I MISUNDERSTAND THAT? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, DIRECTOR ROMERO WAS TALKING ABOUT THE TEMPORARY WORKERS UNDER CONTRACT WITH TEMPORARY STAFFING AGENCIES. THEY'RE ONLY ALLOWED TO WORK FOR US TWO YEARS. THOSE ARE TEMPORARY WORKERS IRK WORKING OFF OF CONTRACTS. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: OKAY. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. >>COUN. DAVIS: OTHER QUESTIONS? COUNCILOR PEÑA, ANYTHING FURTHER? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF AMENDMENT TEN SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. THAT IS 8-0. WE ARE BACK ON COUNCILOR BASSAN'S BILL AS AMENDED AND SUBSTITUTED MANY, MANY TIMES. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, AGAIN, I APPRECIATE ALL THE LESSONS LEARNED. THE HARD WORK PUT SQUIN THE COMPROMISES MADE, ADDITIONS, SUBTRACTIONS, THE BLOOD, SWEAT, AND TEARS. THEORETICALLY, AND I'M GLAD WE'RE AT THE MAJORITY OF SOMEBODY GOT A LITTLE BIT OF SOMETHING AND LOST A LITTLE SOMETHING. I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >> MR. PRESIDENT, I -- IF I MAY SAY ON BEHALF OF THE ADMINISTRATION, WE APPRECIATE WORKING WITH COUNCILOR BASSAN. AND ALL THE COUNCILORS AS WE DEVELOPED THIS BUDGET. ONE OF MY TRADITIONS IS ALWAYS THAT RIGHT BEFORE YOU VOTE ON THE BUDGET IS SHARE WITH YOU ICE CREAM TO COOL YOU OFF AFTER A LONG EVENING. IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND, I'M GOING TO HAVE LIBBY GIVE OUT ICE CREAMS. AND THIS YEAR, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, WE GOT A NON-DAIRY TREAT IN LIGHT OF THE FACT OF WHAT HAPPENED LAST YEAR. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: I'M SO IMPRESSED WITH THAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> COUNCILOR BASSAN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR HELP AND WORK ON THIS. IT WORKED OUT. WE APPRECIATE THE COUNCIL SUPPORT. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU, MR. RAEL. I WILL SAY WHILE WE'RE DOING ISPIECE. FOR THOSE OF YOU, NOTIING WHETHER THE ADMINISTRATION AND COUNCIL DO BETTER, WE DO BETTER WITH FOOD AND ICE CREAM. COUNCILOR BASSAN, YOU DID AN EXCELLENT JOB. WE DID A LOT OF YEARS WHERE THERE WAS A LOT OF FIGHTING. WE'VE EXTENDED THIS PAST THE DEADLINE. YOU MANAGED TO MAKE THIS WORK REALLY WELL WITH THE ADMINISTRATION. THANK YOU FOR NOT HAVING US HERE TO MIDNIGHT. SEEING NO OTHER DISCUSSION. EVERYONE WILL SAY -- >>COUN. LEWIS: OKAY. I APPRECIATE -- THIS IS PRIMARILY AM MAYOR'S BUDGET. I APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK AND AMENDMENTS AND COUNCILOR BASSAN'S WORK AND GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS. IT'S GENERALLY HOW IT STARTED. IT DOES HAVE QUITE A BIG REDUCTION TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. I THINK THERE'S SOME LACK OF FORESIGHT AND VISION THERE IN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. NOT THE DIRECTOR, NOT THE PEOPLE, BUT I THINK THE BUDGET WITH A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT REDUCTION IN FUNDING OVER LAST YEAR. THIS BUDGET CUTS POLICE OFFICERS, FUNDING THE POLICE OFFICERS, IT CUTS SENIOR AFFAIRS. IT REDUCES FUNDING TO ANIMAL WELFARE. INCREASES ACS BY 46%. APD AT .8%. WHILE ACS HANDLES A SMALL FRICATION OF EMERGENCY CALLS. AND NOT A WHOLE LOT TO SHOW FOR IT. I BELIEVE THE PRIORITIES ARE JUST NOT REFLECTED IN A WAY THAT HONORS TAXPAYER DOLLARS ON THIS BUDGET. I DISCUSSED IT AND TALKED ABOUT IT AND ASKED QUESTIONS AND SHARED MY CONCERNS OVER THE COURSE OF THE BUDGET PROCESS AND WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU KNEW I'D BE VOTING AGAINST IT. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF R-123 AS AMENDED RAISE YOUR HAND AND SAY YES. OPPOSED? ONE. THAT MATTER CARRIES 7-1 WITH ONE EXCUSED. COUNCILOR LEWIS, YOU HAVE THE LAST BILL OF THE EVENING. SGLM THANK YOU, . >>COUN. LEWIS: IT'S ESTABLISHING THE CITY COUNCIL PRESIDENT DESIGNEE AS THE REPRESENTATIVE ON THE BOARD OF ALBUQUERQUE REGIONAL ECONOMIC ALLIANCE BOARD OF DIRECTORS. I MOVE A DO PASS. >>COUN. DAVIS: SEVERAL SECONDS FROM COUNCILOR PEÑA. >>COUN. LEWIS: MR. PRESIDENT, THERE'S AN AMENDMENT AS WELL. IT'S JUST A SMALL AMENDMENT THAT CLARIFIES THE LANGUAGE. THIS BILL JUST SAYS THAT ALONG WITH THE MEMBERSHIP OF AREA, THAT -- ORIGINALLY IT SAYS THAT THE COUNCIL PRESIDENT OR HIS DESIGNEE, AND THIS AMENDMENT CLARIFIES AND SAYS OR A MEMBER OF THE COUNCIL. BASICALLY A MEMBER OF THE COUNCIL THAT THE PRESIDENT DESIGNATES. THAT'S WHAT THE AMENDMENT DOES. I MOVE THE AMENDMENT. >>COUN. DAVIS: SECOND ON THE AMENDMENT? ALL THOSE -- ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE AMENDMENT SAY YES. AND BACK ON THE BILL. >>COUN. LEWIS: I URGE YOUR SUPPORT FOR THE BILL. I THINK IT'S SELF-EX-PLANATORY. ESTABLISHES THAT THE COUNCIL SERVES AS A MEMBER BOARD. >>COUN. DAVIS: SEEING NO OTHER DISCUSSION. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? THAT BILL CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. THERE BEING NO BUSINESS BEFORE THIS COUNCIL, WE'LL SEE YOU JUNE 5th.